Wikibooks enwikibooks https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Main_Page MediaWiki 1.45.0-wmf.8 first-letter Media Special Talk User User talk Wikibooks Wikibooks talk File File talk MediaWiki MediaWiki talk Template Template talk Help Help talk Category Category talk Cookbook Cookbook talk Transwiki Transwiki talk Wikijunior Wikijunior talk Subject Subject talk TimedText TimedText talk Module Module talk Wikibooks:Requests for deletion 4 385 4520791 4520622 2025-07-01T16:35:49Z 103.149.19.70 /* winarsi@gmail.com */ new section 4520791 wikitext text/x-wiki __NEWSECTIONLINK__ [[Category:Wikibooks deletion|{{PAGENAME}}]] {{Discussion Rooms}} {{TOCleft}} {{Requests for deletion/Archives}} {{Requests for deletion/Using Template:Icon}} {{clear}} = Undeletion = {{shortcut|WB:RFU}} {{Requests for deletion/New undeletion}} {{Requests for deletion/Undeletion intro}} ==[[Transwiki:Effects of different voting systems under similar circumstances]]== This page had several years of editing on English Wikipedia, then was moved over to Wikibooks. I'm an admin on enwiki, so I've undeleted the parent article on enwiki and put it the Draft namespace over to decide what do with the prose (see [[w:Draft:Effects of different voting systems under similar circumstances]]). I think it would be possible to create a coherent book about voting systems using this example to tie together the explanations of various voting systems. Since I'm not an admin on English Wikibooks, I can't see what work was done after the move was performed, so I'd like to see what (if anything) other folks were able to do with the material after the move. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/RobLa|contribs]]) 21:47, 1 February 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:RobLa|RobLa]]! It looks like it was deleted in 2012 because it was never worked on after the initial import. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:51, 2 February 2025 (UTC) ::Thanks for the update, @[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]]! Could you undelete it? I'd like to work on it. I didn't have time to work on it when it was moved, but I have time now. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/RobLa|contribs]]) 06:22, 2 February 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:RobLa|RobLa]]: I've userfied it for you. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 06:28, 2 February 2025 (UTC) :::<nowiki>[[File:Nuvola French flag.svg]]</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:D480:A020:B046:89CA:1E3E:FF9D|2600:1700:D480:A020:B046:89CA:1E3E:FF9D]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:D480:A020:B046:89CA:1E3E:FF9D|discuss]]) 18:35, 21 March 2025 (UTC) ==[[City Of Heroes]]== {{closed|Was undeleted —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:39, 17 August 2024 (UTC)}} A book that was deleted when strategy guides were not allowed. See discussion -<span style="background:yellow;>User:Slava Ukraini Heroyam Slava 123 <span style="color:blue span> 17:13, 12 November 2022 (UTC)</span></span> :This book was deleted about 16 years ago and only one page had a significant amount of content. It could all be undeleted but would probably be better re-made from scratch.--[[User:Xania|Xania]] [[Image:Flag_of_Estonia.svg|15px]] [[Image:Flag_of_Ukraine.svg|15px]] [[User talk:Xania|<sup>talk</sup>]] 01:34, 11 August 2023 (UTC) ::'''Undeleted it''' with many first-level subpages. Yet [[City Of Heroes/Archetypes]], [[City Of Heroes/Powers]], [[City Of Heroes/General Help]], [[City Of Heroes/Enhancements]], [[City Of Heroes/Binds]] and [[City Of Heroes/Badges]] have even more subpages to be undeleted.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] ([[User talk:Jusjih|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jusjih|contribs]]) 22:50, 19 August 2023 (UTC) :::'''Undeleted''' many subpages of the above subpages, less obviously useless versions. Yet any administrators are hereby advised to check [[Special:Undelete]] for more to be undeleted.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] ([[User talk:Jusjih|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jusjih|contribs]]) 21:52, 21 August 2023 (UTC) :Remaking this content from scratch might be difficult - the game shut down in 2012. There's a small community of users running private servers based on leaked source code (!), but far fewer than when the game was active. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 07:55, 26 August 2023 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Mass undeletion of books that were deleted when strategy guides were not allowed.]]== {{closed|Not done —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:40, 17 August 2024 (UTC)}} Couldn't we just mass undelete these books? [[User:Garfieldcat1978|Garfieldcat1978]] ([[User talk:Garfieldcat1978|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Garfieldcat1978|contribs]]) 18:25, 20 February 2023 (UTC) Letting bot archive as needed. :Listing which works would be much better.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] ([[User talk:Jusjih|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jusjih|contribs]]) 22:51, 19 August 2023 (UTC) {{end closed}} == Redirects created by myself == I am proposing to undelete [[Cookbook:Dark chocolate chips]], [[Cookbook:Peanut butter]] and [[Cookbook:Food coloring]] because in my opinion I believe it is necessary due to the pipe trick. For example, I entered <code><nowiki>[[Cookbook:Food coloring|]]</nowiki></code>, which gives you [[Cookbook:Food coloring|Food coloring]], which is currently a red link, so I created this redirect to [[Cookbook:Food Coloring]]. What are your thoughts? [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 08:37, 5 December 2024 (UTC) :This is a good question! When I started out in the cookbook several years ago, I also created redirects like this. However, I was told at the time that Wikibooks does not use redirects in this way. I am open to further discussion about this, especially with the Cookbook, since it does not function like the other books on the project. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:44, 5 December 2024 (UTC) ::Wikibooks doesn't allow redirects in mainspace. However, as in [[Cookbook:Grunt Work]], redirects are allowed in Cookbook namespace. [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 16:07, 7 December 2024 (UTC) :::That's an interesting point. In terms of my personal opinion, I am currently neutral about redirects like this. I do think having these redirects can be helpful in some cases, especially given the wide range of terminologies used in cooking and the collaborative nature of the cookbook. However, excessive and unnecessary redirects (e.g. with all potential capitalization options) can create clutter. And, if I recall correctly, it's generally best practice to never link directly to redirect pages, instead linking to the correct end-page and subsection as appropriate. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 17:46, 7 December 2024 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]], @[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]], @[[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]]: pinging users since these users didn't participate this undeletion request in almost 2 weeks. [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 13:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] I don't get the relevance of the pipe trick with this. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 15:39, 17 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::I don't either. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 20:36, 17 December 2024 (UTC) ::::I'm not sure why it would be a problem to link directly to a redirect page. The wikitext doesn't care; the parser doesn't care. I'm not sure why anyone would create a rule against it. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhatamIdoing|contribs]]) 06:55, 18 December 2024 (UTC) :::::IMO I will have to concur with {{u|WhatamIdoing}} that it's a terrible rule, especially all the more that {{w|WP:CHEAP}} and makes these books more accessible (broken redirects can always be dealt with later); that still said I will say no to restoring these redirects until we get the policy changed. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 10:12, 18 December 2024 (UTC) :::::@[[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] I believe you were the one who originally told me about the avoidance of redirects at this project. Do you know what the original reasoning was? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:51, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::It's all down to books v articles. A book is supposed to be self-contained. So, a redirect from an alternative BOOK title to the actual book is okay - e.g., from "Fizzicks" to "Physics". But redirects that go to one page in a book are discouraged as it is creating a structure more like individual articles and creates pages that shouldn't exist. E.g., we don't have a standalone page called "Heat exchange", it's a subpage of Physics, Physics/Heat Exchange". Following the same philosophy you wouldn't have a redirect from "heat exchange" because things that aren't subpages should be books, and there is no book about heat exchange. Similarly, cross namespace redirects were discouraged (e.g., from mainspace to the cookbook space) as the cookbook is supposed to be one, very large, self contained book. Anyway, if I recall correctly, that was the theory. [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 14:15, 22 December 2024 (UTC) :::::::It sounds like they don't want [[Heat exchange]] to redirect to [[Physics/Heat exchange]], because someone might later want to write a whole book about Heat Exchange. :::::::That rationale has nothing to do with redirects for alternate (i.e., wrong) capitalization, which I believe is the question here. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhatamIdoing|contribs]]) 06:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC) :::::::Thank you for the information! I think my personal opinions regarding linking are as follows: :::::::* I agree with keeping books separate from each other and therefore agree that simple inter-book linking and inter-project linking should not be done within actual content pages. For example, if a book on philosophy used the word "physics" somewhere in the text, that word should not be wikilinked to [[Physics]]. Exceptions could be deliberate connections/references to another book (e.g. "see-also" or "further reading" chapters separate from the main content). :::::::* The cookbook has, for over a decade, been operating slightly differently from the other books in the project. It is its own subproject, which is reflected in the namespace and the way it uses categories. It is also a massive work that is continuously expanding through small additions by various contributors, and its pages are deeply interconnected with each other. Additionally, words for many of the concepts discussed in the cookbook have different names and are different in various cultures—redirects prevent incorrect linking and the creation of pages that already exist. For these reasons, I think it's okay to create redirects for its frequently-used subpages (e.g. ingredient/equipment/technique pages) that are often linked to in recipes. :::::::Cheers! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::::I agree. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhatamIdoing|contribs]]) 20:45, 23 December 2024 (UTC) :::::::::+2. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 06:10, 25 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::::Since there seems to be consensus here, I've codified this at [[Cookbook:Policy#Redirects]] —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Atlas Shrugged/Places]] == {{closed|1=Undeleted to undo the invalid reason to deletion--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] ([[User talk:Jusjih|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jusjih|contribs]]) 02:22, 1 May 2025 (UTC)}} This page was transwikied from the English Wikipedia after an [[w:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Places in Atlas Shrugged|AfD]], but unilaterally deleted by [[User:Hagindaz|Hagindaz]] on the grounds that it was an "out-of-date copy of [a] Wikipedia article." This is not a valid speedy deletion criterion, and there was no RfD. Additionally, the nonexistence of this page poses an obstacle in the process of removing all of the Wikipedia links in [[Atlas Shrugged]]. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 04:46, 22 December 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} = Deletion = {{shortcut|WB:RFD}} {{Requests for deletion/New deletion}} {{Requests for deletion/Deletion intro}} {{clear}} <!-- New nominations go at the bottom of page --> == Files from [[Illustrated Guide to the world of Spira (FFX and FFX-2)]] == {{closed|1=Deleted for lack of a valid NFCC. [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 15:34, 24 October 2024 (UTC)}} Used for decorative, not educational, purposes: [[:File:Float 13.jpg]], [[:File:Grabbed Frame 15.jpg]], [[:File:Gandof.jpg]], [[:File:Ohalland.jpg]], [[:File:Braskascan1.jpg]], [[:File:Tidus FFX.png]] ([[WB:NFCC]]#8). — Ирука<sup>[[user:Iruka13|13]]</sup> 13:54, 17 July 2023 (UTC) :Sure, I think I can agree on the removal of these [[User:2005-Fan|2005-Fan]] ([[User talk:2005-Fan|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/2005-Fan|contribs]]) 12:24, 22 July 2023 (UTC) {{end closed}} == Various pages in [[Basics of fine-art photography]] == {{closed|1=consensus to delete [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 15:38, 24 October 2024 (UTC)}} The following pages in [[Basics of fine-art photography]] seem out of scope because they consist entirely of personal promotion/advertisement for the author's photography: * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Egypt and Egyptians II]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Lights of Moscow]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Ethiopia through the eyes of traveler]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/On the roads of India]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/14 days in Mongolia]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Egypt and Egyptians III]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Hitchhiking across Sudan]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/January in Japan]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Uganda: tribes and civilization]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Tribes of Kenya]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Afghanistan, 2008]] —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 04:13, 25 February 2024 (UTC) :Frankly, the entire book appears to be a vehicle for the author to promote his own photography. The few sentences of instructional content on pages like [[Basics of fine-art photography/Creating works in macro photography]] are practically useless; that one amounts to "to take macro photos, set your camera to macro mode and hold it close to the subject, or read another book for more information". Other pages like [[Basics of fine-art photography/Interior photography in hobo tours]] or [[Basics of fine-art photography/Taking pictures of homeless people]] provide essentially no information on photography technique at all, and seem to mostly be intended as jumping-off points to showcase more of the author's photos. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 19:40, 11 March 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Half-Life Computation]] == Doesn't seem in-scope as a book—just seems like a single page on how to do a specific calculation. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:06, 5 April 2024 (UTC) * Keep -You have to consider also that projects can be merged (I have not checked if there is a possible match) in any case consider it a stub with valid content. It is a stub (November 2018) there is the problem of a namespace collision since it identifies as a specific topic (but as you identified is a very limited scope). Had I the time I would create a structure around it and contribute to it in the subject of Entropy or how our non-existing reality, is also "evaporating" into nothing... : Stubs are promoters to growth, like particles to rain... --[[User:Panic2k4|Panic]] ([[User talk:Panic2k4|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Panic2k4|contribs]]) 20:40, 7 November 2024 (UTC) * [[File:Symbol merge vote.svg|15px|alt=|link=]] '''Merge''' I agree this is not a book by itself, but lots of books have a section about how to calculate half-life stuff -- including some already on Wikibooks: [[A-level Physics (Advancing Physics)/Half-lives]], [[What You Should Know About Medicines/Half life, or how often to take it]], [[Basic Physics of Nuclear Medicine/The Radioactive Decay Law#Half-Life]], [[AP Chemistry/Nuclear Chemistry#Half Life]], [[A-level Physics/Forces, Fields and Energy/Radioactivity#Half-life]], [[A-level Mathematics/OCR/C3/Special Functions and Transformations#Example of Half-life decay]], [[Introduction to Radioisotope Geochronology/Part Two - Principles of Radioisotopic Dating#Decay Constants and Half Lives]], etc. Perhaps this is common enough that [[Half-Life Computation]] could be merged/moved into a page of [[Engineering Tables]] so that it could be shared across several Wikibooks, in the same way that the ASCII table in Engineering Tables is already shared across several Wikibooks. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] ([[User talk:DavidCary|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/DavidCary|contribs]]) 01:38, 13 February 2025 (UTC) == [[Kashubian Dictionary]] == [[WB:DICT|Out of scope]] here; material should be hosted at Wiktionary (I've [[Wiktionary:Wiktionary:Information desk/2024/May|suggested it there]]). —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC) :Any content in this dictionary should be already be at [[wiktionary:Wiktionary:Requested entries (Kashubian)/Kashubian Dictionary]], where we will be able to slowly make entries for these. [[User:Vininn126|Vininn126]] ([[User talk:Vininn126|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Vininn126|contribs]]) 21:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC) == [[Chinese Checkers]] == Extremely minimal content and abandoned for almost 20 years. Was previously nominated for deletion in 2006 but kept on the grounds that it could be expanded—clearly this has not happened. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:56, 11 July 2024 (UTC) == [[HP Open View NNM Exam Guide]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:36, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} One page only; abandoned >1 decade; little to no meaningful content; scope unclear —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:40, 21 July 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}}. [[w:HP OpenView|HP OpenView]] no longer exists as a product (and its successor HP Network Management Center has been discontinued as well!); neither does HP's certification exam for it. There's certainly no purpose in writing a new guide for a nonexistent exam for a obsolete product. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 19:54, 23 July 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Doom Modding]] == Abandoned >1 decade; main page only; very little content; unclear scope/path to completion —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:20, 28 July 2024 (UTC) == [[Global Illumination and HDRI Maps in 3D Studio Max]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:38, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} Abandoned >1 decade; one chapter only, which contains only a handful of sentences. Not enough content and no path for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:27, 28 July 2024 (UTC) *{{del}} per nom. The only subpage is this: [[Global Illumination and HDRI Maps in 3D Studio Max/HDRI Maps]]. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == Pages in [[Security+ Certification]] == Both [[Security+ Certification/Threats and Vulnerabilities]] and [[Security+ Certification/Network Security]] seem to be deprecated per @[[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]]'s recent overhaul; moreover, the pages in question seem to consist entirely of outlinks to Wikipedia. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:32, 3 August 2024 (UTC) == Obsolete Microsoft certification guides == * [[MCSE Server 2003 Certification Core Exams]] (exam 70-290 retired July 2013) * [[Microsoft Certified IT Professional]] (exam 70-444 retired June 2011; exam 70-450 retired July 2015) * [[Microsoft Certified Professional Developer]] (exams 70-526, 70-528, 70-529, 70-547, 70-548 retired June 2011; exams 70-290, 70-536 retired July 2013) These books all correspond to Microsoft certification exams which were retired in 2011-2015, and consist almost entirely of lists of course objectives copied from official course materials. There's almost no original educational content in any of these three books, and it's highly unlikely that they're going to be improved, since the certification exams they correspond to are no longer offered. (Reference for the exam retirement dates is: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/credentials/support/retired-certification-exams) [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 00:27, 4 August 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} per the above; additionally, some of these have very little content at all. Some pages may be candidates for speedy deletion. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:38, 4 August 2024 (UTC) == [[IB Textbook Reviews]] == Very little meaningful educational content; seems like opinion at most? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:45, 4 August 2024 (UTC) == [[Kurdish]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:38, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} Very little content at all, no outline or potential for development; abandoned for years. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:46, 4 August 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:49, 17 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[English-Arabic dictionary]] == Out of scope at Wikibooks since this is already completely covered by Wiktionary. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:49, 4 August 2024 (UTC) :{{comment}} [[English-Arabic dictionary/Colors in Arabic]] gets a nontrivial amount of traffic (~50 views/day). It'd be nice if we could at least preserve this as a redirect to an equivalent resource. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:38, 4 August 2024 (UTC) * '''Keep''': a book selecting vocabulary into introductory groups is very different from a lexical database such as Wiktionary. In Wiktionary, one does not know where to start learning the vocabulary. Admittedly, the title gives excessively broad scope, so something should probably be done. (The argument with 50 views/day has some force.) --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:48, 17 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Valgrind]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:39, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} Abandoned >1 decade; main page only; very little content; unclear scope; no path forward for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:52, 17 August 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - readers would be much better off with [https://valgrind.org/docs/manual/quick-start.html Valgrind's own quick start guide] (which is even freely licensed). [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 17:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Programming for the consultant]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:40, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} Abandoned >1 decade; little to no meaningful content; no plan for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:42, 24 August 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom. The only subpage: [[Programming for the consultant/Approaching A New Code Base]]. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:24, 17 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Metroid]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:40, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} Abandoned; main page only; no meaningful content; no plan for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:44, 24 August 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom; could be speedy. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:00, 17 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Radiata Stories]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:40, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} Abandoned; little to no meaningful content; one page only with little content; no path for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:46, 24 August 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom. The one existing subpage is [[Radiata Stories/Character Recruitment]]. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:23, 17 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Dialect]] == Scope unclear; abandoned with no plan for development; little to no meaningful content; most pages qualify for speedy anyway. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:18, 5 September 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Programming Text Adventures In Basic]] == Main page only; abandoned >1 decade; little meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:17, 7 September 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom, but I think a change of [[Wikibooks:Deletion policy]] is needed so that we can delete useless stubs abandoned for a long time. The nominated page cannot be of any use as is. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 05:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC) == [[UNIX Basics]] == Abandoned >1 decade; little to no meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:23, 7 September 2024 (UTC) * {{del}}: no meaningful content. A bit of meaningful content is in [[Guide to Unix]]. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 05:53, 17 October 2024 (UTC) == [[How to Write a Compiler]] == Abandoned >1 decade; main page only; little meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:24, 7 September 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom: almost no meaningful content. No further reading. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 05:54, 17 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Script Languages Synopsis]] == Abandoned >1 decade; little content; unclear path for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:26, 7 September 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 05:55, 17 October 2024 (UTC) =={{anchor|Network+ Certification}}{{anchor|Security+ Certification}}{{anchor|A+ Certification}} CompTIA Certifications == [[Network+ Certification]] moved and updated at [[:v:Network+|Wikiversity]]. [[Security+ Certification]] moved and updated at [[:v:Security+ Certification|Wikiversity]]. [[A+ Certification]] moved and updated at [[:v:A+ Certification|Wikiversity]]. De-duplicating work across Wikimedia. Subpages should all be deleted as well. Might be worth leaving a redirect to WV for future users. [[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tule-hog|contribs]]) 21:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC) :I centralized at Wikiversity since the projects (as of now) are compendiums of links and resources based on the listed objectives of each exam, sometimes with explicitly suggested 'activities'. Very little in the way of 'book'-like exposition. [[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tule-hog|contribs]]) 21:06, 15 September 2024 (UTC) :Thought about leaving a {{tlx|MovedToWikiversity}} but that template has been deleted in the past. [[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tule-hog|contribs]]) 02:52, 3 October 2024 (UTC) ::If all the content has indeed moved over to Wikiversity, I'm not sure we need to keep these here, especially given their quality. Cheers –[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:18, 12 November 2024 (UTC) == Wikiversal generated pages == * [[Wiki Assistant]] * [[User Page Builder]] *: Inexplicably, the links on the main page of this book all point to pages under [[:w:User:Hazel45onnie/User Page Builder]] '''on the English Wikipedia'''. I'm nominating those pages for deletion on enwiki as a separate process ([[:w:Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikiversuite pages|here]]). * [[WikiverSuite/Wikiversant/Gunport Builder Demo 1]] * [[Wiki Tutorial]] *: Some of the internal links in this book are written as if the book is named [[Tutorial]] instead of [[Wiki Tutorial]]. You may have to use [[Special:Prefixindex/Wiki Tutorial]] to read through the whole thing. These books were all generated using Wikiversal, a third-party wiki editing tool written by [[User:Planotse]] which is no longer downloadable. Many of them contain broken internal links or other outdated content (like references to Wikiversity being a subproject of Wikibooks), and the HTML-heavy markup generated by Wikiversal makes them unreasonably difficult to edit. (As as aside, the markup used for these "presentations" is completely broken on the mobile site, e.g. [https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/User_Page_Builder]. For some reason, the forward/back buttons are invisible, making it impossible to navigate from page to page.) The first three books are all instructions on how to use Wikiversal itself. Since it's no longer available, they are of no use. The fourth, while described as a "Wiki tutorial", primarily instructs users to use Wikiversal to build pages on the wiki; its main page should probably be redirected to [[Using Wikibooks]] as a much more comprehensive resource. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 02:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC) ::It isn't inexplicable that these pages and links are on the English Wikipedia. The spammers who developed these pages were primarily trying to peddle software for use on the English Wikipedia. Their pages on the English Wikipedia are also pending deletion as misusing Wikipedia for web hosting. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Robert McClenon|contribs]]) 18:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC) :::Based on the name and some of the user's (now deleted) activity on Wikiversity, I think the software was actually intended primarily for use on Wikibooks and/or Wikiversity. Why they decided to host some of its documentation on Wikipedia is a mystery. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 18:52, 22 September 2024 (UTC) ::::It isn't worth trying to explain the behavior of spammers. Sometimes the explanation is stupidity and greed. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Robert McClenon|contribs]]) 23:05, 22 September 2024 (UTC) ::<del>I haven't yet looked at the deletion request here. I am primarily an English Wikipedia editor, just as [[User:Omphalographer]] is primarily a Commons editor. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Robert McClenon|contribs]]) 18:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC)</del> *'''Delete All''' - Spam. These books were created twelve years ago to peddle software to new users. This was an abuse of Wikimedia for commercial purposes. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Robert McClenon|contribs]]) 18:51, 22 September 2024 (UTC) == [[PlanoTse Handbook for Job Search Automation]] == Much like the Wikiversal pages nominated above, this book is documentation for a piece of self-authored software by [[User:Planotse]] which is no longer available for download. I can't find any substantial references to this software anywhere online outside of this book itself, so it seems highly unlikely to be useful to anyone. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 02:49, 20 September 2024 (UTC) :[[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' per the above. If the software is not currently available and was never widely available or notable previously, I don't see why keeping it is useful, even for historicity. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:36, 20 September 2024 (UTC) *'''Delete''' - This is more spam by a spammer. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Robert McClenon|contribs]]) 23:17, 22 September 2024 (UTC) == [[Salute, Jonathan!]] and its translations == : [[Alo, Jonathan!]] : [[Bune Ğonatan!]] : [[Dag, Jonathan!]] : [[Glidis, o Jonathan!]] : [[Hai, Jon!]] : [[Hallo, Jonathan!]] : [[Haloo, Jonatan!]] : [[Hay, Jonathan!]] : [[Hej, Jonathan! (Germanisch)]] : [[Hej, Jonathan!]] : [[Hela, Jonathan!]] : [[Holo, Jonathan!]] : [[Oila, Jonatan!]] : [[Salam, Jonathan!]] : [[Salom, Jonatan!]] : [[Salu, Jon!]] : [[Salut Jonathan!]] : [[Salute, Jonathan!]] : [[Salut, Jonathan! (Interocidental)]] : [[Salut, Jonathan!]] : [[Salut, ionatano!]] : [[Salute, Jonathan! (Novlingue)]] : [[Salute, Jonathan! (Romanica)]] : [[Saluto, Jonathan! (Ido)]] : [[Saluto, Jonathan!]] : [[Sesan Jon!]] : [[Simi, Jonathan!]] : [[Sin Chao, Jonathan!]] : [[Terve, Jonathan!]] : [[Toki a, jan Jonatan!]] : [[Àlŏ, Jonathan!]] : [[Òla, Ionatà!]] There are a couple of issues here: # Beyond their introductions, all of these books are written in languages which are not English, making them out of scope for the English Wikibooks. # All but one of these books are in fact written in constructed languages, most of them in recently created conlangs. In some cases (e.g. [[Sin Chao, Jonathan!]]), I can't find any reliable sources describing the target language outside of the translation itself. # Most of the translations (i.e. other than [[Salute, Jonathan!]] itself) were abandoned within the first five or so chapters (out of 100); none of them are complete, and there seems to be little effort to complete any of them. While I recognize that this is an unusual project, and potentially one which could have some value, it's not at all clear to me that the English Wikibooks is the right place for it. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 00:24, 29 September 2024 (UTC) :I'm really not sure what to do about these ones. While I recognize that this approach is certainly one method of teaching a language, I'm not sure that it constitutes an educational textbook. We do require that the English Wikibooks be written in English—for language-learning books, this typically means that the instructional parts are in English while the exercises are in the language being taught. I do think that if the language doesn't have much supporting evidence outside the book itself, it can safely be deleted. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:01, 29 September 2024 (UTC) :Author of the book here. I originally wanted to put it in the Interlingue Wikibooks https://ie.wikibooks.org/wiki/Principal_p%C3%A1gine but it somehow got locked when I wasn't paying attention and so I ended up putting it here. Getting it unlocked requires going through the process of starting an Incubator and all the rest so I opted for here and then started putting some English-only content once it was done. It's sort of in the same vein as books like Lingua Latina per se Illustrata that have separate versions with teacher notes and whatnot. [[Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 1 - with notes]] After it was done the auxlang community really took to it which was a nice surprise. I think Ido has the largest number of chapters at the moment at 15. :If the vast content of this book could be used to justify a quick reopening of the Interlingue Wikibooks to move it there, I'd love to do that. I imagine that an incubator with 100+ book chapters would be enough to open a Wikibooks and that's what this is. :[[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 06:02, 29 September 2024 (UTC) :Ah, I just realized that we do have a proposal to reopen the Interlingue Wikibooks: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikibooks_Interlingue along with an Incubator page here. https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wb/ie/Principal_p%C3%A1gine :How easy would it be to migrate the entirety of Salute Jonathan to there? [[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 06:30, 29 September 2024 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]]! I'm not sure how incubator projects work, but I fully support migrating these books there. You may want to inquire over there and link to this discussion to support your request to move the content over there. Cheers! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:16, 29 September 2024 (UTC) :::Hi! :::Actually I have a third idea to propose after thinking about this again today (haven't been here much since I finished the book): I noticed that there is more English content than I remember and that might make it an awkward fit for the Interlingue Wikibooks. I definitely agree that having all the auxlang translations for new auxlang projects goes well beyond the scope of this Wikibooks. Finally, there are some auxlangs that are notable with their own Wikipedias. :::So the idea is the following: :::1 Leave the original here and I can continue the work on the version with English notes and grammar. That will make it the same as Lingua Latina per se Illustrata, English by the Nature Method, Athenaze and all the rest. :::2 The Interlingua one can move to the Interlingua Wikibooks (maybe Romanica too if they want as it is sort of a dialect of Interlingua). :::3 For Ido and Lingua Franca Nova which have a Wikipedia but not a Wikibooks, I'm a little bit unsure...technically they could have their own version like the original one but would require English explanations. I could let them know and see if they are willing to do so and see what they think (work on adding English to the books vs. move the content elsewhere). :::4 The rest can move to a Github repo, then be deleted, and the front page of this book can have a single link to the repo. :::Any thoughts on that? Adding the extra English content will be easy as it is my book and I know it inside and out. Edit: [https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Salute,_Jonathan!/Grammar_(pronouns) this page] I just added. :::[[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 13:50, 29 September 2024 (UTC) ::::Thanks for taking the time to consider this! Here are my responses/questions: ::::* Is the original [[Salute, Jonathan!]] (Occidental)? Since that one is quite fleshed out, I agree that if you edit it so the primary language of the book (e.g. headers, instructions, etc) are written in English while leaving the actual story in Occidental, it would be okay and fit in more with instructional language textbooks. ::::* For your points 2 and 3, I'm not sure how those other projects work, so I'll leave it up to them. I'm not quite sure why they would need to move, since in theory they could be revised with English as the language of instruction? Although, they have been left incomplete for a long time. ::::* For your point 4, I have no problem with that. ::::Cheers! –[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:51, 29 September 2024 (UTC) :::::Hello again, :::::It's the weekend so I have a bit more time to work on this. I've decided to merge the extra content from the following five chapters since the difference is fairly small and the original chapters should now have this English content. Could you delete these five pages now that they are no longer needed? [[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 14:02, 5 October 2024 (UTC) :::::[[Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 1 - with notes]] :::::[[Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 2 - with notes]] :::::[[Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 3 - with notes]] :::::[[Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 4 - with notes]] :::::[[Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 5 - with notes]] [[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 14:02, 5 October 2024 (UTC) ::::::[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Done'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:34, 5 October 2024 (UTC) :::::::Hi again! No luck trying to find a home for the random language translations on other auxlang wikis, can't find one that is actively maintained. :::::::The thought struck me that maybe I could just put those ones on a sub page of my user page, would that be permitted? If not, I think I'll just stick them somewhere in GitHub and call it a day since none of the people who started the translations seem to care enough to do anything about them. I'd rather not see them outright disappear but since they aren't mine I don't care enough about them to do much more work than copy and paste them somewhere. :::::::(I would leave the ones in languages with an ISO-639 code and Wikipedia here, of course) :::::::[[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 14:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC) ::::::::Thank you for checking! I don't personally see an issue with moving them to your user space right now. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 17:21, 9 November 2024 (UTC) :::::::::Thanks a lot! I've started a single page where I will put them all here [[User:Mithridates/SJ]] and will proceed slowly due to lack of time and also to avoid stepping on any toes / asking you to delete too much at a time and possibly deleting the wrong content. :::::::::For this week I have put the content for the languages Audia, Cristianès, Guosa, Lingaust, Mini, Mirad, and Monav on that page as they all have a single page of content and didn't take much time to move. Please delete those. Once they are gone I will add a note on the main page letting people know where they have gone (in addition to a thank you for their interest in the book! I do love how many people have recognized it as a good source material for teaching a language). [[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 04:09, 10 November 2024 (UTC) :{{Keep}} the translations for languages that have an article on the English Wikipedia, i.e. Guosa, Idiom Neutral, Ido, Interlingua, Lingwa de Planeta, Negerhollands, Neo, Novial, Occidental, Romanica, Solresol, Toki Pona, and Volapük. :Translations for languages that don't have an article can be kept if they have reliable sources, which I was able to find for the following languages (if you think they are not reliable, please let me know): :* Globasa: [https://www.languagesandnumbers.com/how-to-count-in-globasa/en/globasa/] [https://greyson.conlang.org/2020/01/29/shouting-out-globasa-and-pandunia/] :* Mini: [https://jprogr.github.io/mini] [https://www.omniglot.com/language/phrases/mini.htm] [https://www.languagesandnumbers.com/how-to-count-in-mini/en/mini/] :{{Del}} and move to [[User:Mithridates/SJ]] the rest of the translations, i.e. Audià/Audian, Cristianés, Ekumenski, Germanisch, Interocidental, Lingaust, Lingue Simple, Masa Tang, Mirad, Monav, Monkel, Mundeze, Nordien, Novlingue, Numo, Proyo, and Scuian/Meteza. If you can find reliable sources for those languages, please let me know. :In particular, I could not find resources for Audià/Audian and Monav after searching through 15 and 17 pages on Google, respectively. It doesn't help that [[Òla, Ionatà!|their]] [[Hai, Jon!|translations]] don't explain what those languages are and where to find resources for them. This makes contributing to those translations almost impossible until @[[User:Caro de Segeda|Caro de Segeda]] can provide resources to us. It's possible that the resources may have disappared from the Internet, or that those languages were created by Caro de Segeda him/herself. If you can find resources for Audià/Audian and Monav, please let me know. :I'm notifying the primary contributors of the translations: @[[User:Caro de Segeda|Caro de Segeda]], @[[User:Frzzl|Frzzl]], @[[User:Greatscotteh|Greatscotteh]], @[[User:IHateNumbers234|IHateNumbers234]], @[[User:Jayeless2|Jayeless2]], @[[User:Morozof|Morozof]], @[[User:Omnihom|Omnihom]], @[[User:Omoutuazn|Omoutuazn]], @[[User:PovriNaivon|PovriNaivon]], @[[User:Sir Beluga|Sir Beluga]] and @[[User:Tyoyafud|Tyoyafud]]. [[User:EJPPhilippines|EJPPhilippines]] ([[User talk:EJPPhilippines|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/EJPPhilippines|contribs]]) 09:52, 30 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Wooden Boats: Building and Repair]] == Abandoned almost 2 decades; a few pages, but each has only a few lines of text. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:46, 7 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Stellar Scintillation]] == Extremely narrow scope that I don't think is quite book-worthy, especially given the low amount of content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC) == [[IB Spanish]] == Abandoned 2 decades; seems like an idea for a book that was never actually implemented (minimal meaningful content) —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:55, 7 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Competitive Programming]] == Survived deletion previously on the justification that it could potentially be expanded, but it's since been over a decade with no improvement; extremely minimal educational content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:03, 7 October 2024 (UTC) == Pages by [[User:TheoYalur]] == {{closed| closed complete —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)}} * [[Henri Poincaré Reader]] * [[The Sight and Sound of the Greek Genocide Around the Kültürpark in Izmir]] * [[God Disorder]] These pages all appear to be personal essays, not educational texts. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 03:53, 14 October 2024 (UTC) :They are all original research. The editor asked to be unblocked so they could move to Wikiversity where OR is permitted. As they have now returned to creating these dubious pages, I have blocked them again and deleted the most recent creation as out of scope original research. The "reader" might be acceptable. [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 12:37, 14 October 2024 (UTC) ::Thanks @[[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]]! I'm not sure about [[Henri Poincaré Reader]] since it has NPOV issues and it reads like a self-published essay piece with personal hypothesizing/opinion/research, no references, etc. Its educational scope is still somewhat unclear, as is the structure—it does not seem textbook-like in form or style. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 15:43, 14 October 2024 (UTC) :::You spent more time reading it than me I suspect. I only skimmed it, but I am sure you are right that it has the same issues as the other creations and should be deleted. [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 16:14, 14 October 2024 (UTC) ::::With regard to the "Reader", at best it's a collection of loosely translated excerpts of texts which, for the most part, already have quality translations available on Wikisource. For instance, the section [[Henri Poincaré Reader#The Measure of Time (1898)]] is already translated as [[:s:The Foundations of Science/The Value of Science/Chapter 2]]. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 20:39, 14 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[User:גני טווילרי]] == {{closed| closed complete —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)}} Please delete a redirection page of the former user page, which was not active in the En Wikibooks. Thank you. [[User:לובר|לובר]] ([[User talk:לובר|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/לובר|contribs]]) 02:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC) :{{re|לובר}} {{done}} though in the future please use {{tl|speedy}} for such deletions. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 10:53, 16 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Cyber Guide to ODU Career Management]] == As best I can tell, this was intended at one point to be an internal resource for employees of an ODU (Old Dominion University) career office; what little of it exists is primarily focused on minutae irrelevant to anyone outside that office, like [[Cyber Guide to ODU Career Management/Get Oriented/How we do it|who to email to schedule an information session]] or a collection of [[Cyber Guide to ODU Career Management/Get Up-to-Date/CAP Meeting|meeting notes]]. It's also all been essentially untouched since 2007. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 18:49, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :[[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' per stated reasoning —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:11, 18 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Golf]] == Extremely minimal content; educational/book scope is unclear; abandoned for >1 decade. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:15, 18 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Counterterror Joint Command]] == {{closed|Deleted. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 03:01, 20 June 2025 (UTC)}} Unclear how this falls into WB scope—doesn't seem to be an educational book, and educational scope is undefined; abandoned as well —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:17, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - this is perplexing; it's written like a policy proposal on behalf of an agency, not a textbook. From context I ''think'' it's about the [[:w:National Police Agency (Taiwan)]], but it's entirely unclear whether this was intended as an official report or some sort of weird fan fiction. Either way, it doesn't belong here. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 19:31, 18 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Flight Attendant Manual]] == Abandoned almost 2 decades; consists only of a list of country codes and the phonetic alphabet. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:19, 18 October 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:58, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[History of the ODU Art Department]] == A collection of fragmentary biographies and interviews of members of the ODU (Old Dominion University) art department. Some of these are individually interesting, I guess, but they don't really add up to a history of the department, let alone to an instructional text. Most editing activity appears to have been around 2008-09; there's almost no activity since then. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 19:22, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :{{comment}} I have to agree here. And, issues with the book's suitability for inclusion here have been raised on the talk page since its beginning. I'm concerned that this ultimately violates [[WB:WIW]], and I can't see it being properly developed at this point. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:46, 21 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Understanding the National Certificate of Educational Achievement]] == Scope unclear; very little content; abandoned >1 decade —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:30, 18 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Release Management]] == Abandoned almost 2 decades; very little content; unclear what its scope as a book is —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:11, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - release management is a potentially worthy topic, but this isn't useful even as a starting point. The landscape has changed quite a bit in the last 20 years. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 16:31, 24 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Management for IT Professionals]] == Minimal content; book scope unclear; abandoned almost 2 decades —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:13, 18 October 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:57, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Living in Bangkok]] == Minimal content; consists of single chapter that contains likely outdated information —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:14, 18 October 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:57, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Limburgish]] == Abandoned; single chapter with minimal content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:19, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :In general, I think deletion not solve anything. While the contents is minimal, it's still better than nothing at all. Rather, an invitation should be made to expand on it. --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|Ooswesthoesbes]] ([[User talk:Ooswesthoesbes|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ooswesthoesbes|contribs]]) 06:27, 19 October 2024 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|Ooswesthoesbes]]! While I understand your perspective, I unfortunately disagree. Wikibooks has a huge number of abandoned stubs like this one, which I think results in clutter and makes the entire project less useful as a result. Due to their nature and structure, books require a greater committed investment to make than, say, WP articles, and these little scraps are rarely developed here. This book has had plenty of opportunity for expansion since you started it over a decade ago, but nobody has actually made any effort to do so. Based on the evidence from the past decade, when weighing the likelihood of the book being properly developed going forward versus the active negative impact of its continued presence in this state, I favor deletion. Moreover, in the rare case that someone came along later and wanted to revive this book specifically, it could be undeleted. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Introduction to BASIC]] == Consists only of a few paragraphs and then a compilation of links —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:22, 18 October 2024 (UTC) == [[International Baccalaureate]] == Not actually a book in and of itself; rather, it is just a compilation of links to other books —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:24, 18 October 2024 (UTC) : Could this be salvaged as a shelf? [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 05:23, 27 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Basketball]] == Abandoned almost 2 decades; doesn't contain much beyond what you'd find in a WP article —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:41, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :I love the game, but yes, this has no real content. That said, there's little danger in keeping it and it could plausibly be improved, so I'm '''weak keep'''. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 22:33, 3 November 2024 (UTC) *{{vd}} We can't just rely on [[User:Someone Else]] to come – and on a project as small as this, that [[User:Someone Else]] is more or less never likely to come. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 10:33, 24 November 2024 (UTC) == [[Bug Free Programming]] == Unclear how exactly this constitutes an educational book; scope is unclear —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:45, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :Wow, I didn't even remember this one. I think it's perfectly clear how this is educational and the scope couldn't be clearer, either, but I'm not going to finish it so go ahead and delete it. [[User:Főszerkesztő Úr|Főszerkesztő Úr]] ([[User talk:Főszerkesztő Úr|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Főszerkesztő Úr|contribs]]) 12:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Character List for Baxter&Sagart]] == Seems completely out of scope as an educational book; it's just a list of characters and outlinks —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :Adding [[Character List for Karlgren's GSR]] and [[Character List for Schuessler's CGSR]] for the same reason —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:55, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :These three books do make a package and I agree they should be considered together. However, I strongly object to deleting them. They are really extremely useful resources. I use them every week and I know that many people who do work on Old Chinese phonology do so. There are lots of books out there that are lists of characters, these are called dictionaries. For example Axel Schuessler's ABC Etymological Dictionary of Old Chinese, or Pulleyblank's Lexicon of Reconstructed Pronunciation in Early Middle Chinese, Late Middle Chinese, and Early Mandarin. I see it as entirely a good thing for reference works of this kind to be available free online rather than only in expensive books in university research libraries. If this is in violation of a Wikibooks policy, I would at least like that policy to be drawn to my attention and to have some constructive comment offered about which Wikiproject such a resource should fall under. I will also say on a personal note that I have put literally hundreds of hours of work into these projects and it would grieve me a lot to see this work simply vanish, in particular when I know that colleagues around the world use these books. --[[User:Tibetologist|Tibetologist]] ([[User talk:Tibetologist|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tibetologist|contribs]]) 07:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Tibetologist|Tibetologist]], and thank you for the feedback! Official Wikibooks policy does not permit standalone dictionaries (see [[WB:DICT]]), though I understand the argument that it is a useful resource. I am wondering if there might be a home for it at [[Wiktionary:Wiktionary:Welcome, newcomers|Wiktionary]] or [[Wikiversity:Wikiversity:SHARE|Wikiversity]]? Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:14, 1 November 2024 (UTC) :::The policy says to use Wiktionary, but these books cannot be moved there. In fact they link there, you can understand me as having made an index to wiktionary, if you like, where the ORDER of the characters is extremely important, information that would be lost in Wiktionary. :::Wikiversity is not a project I participate in, and in any event my books here are older than it, so this option was not available for me at the relevant moment. If you are offering to move my books to Wikiversity, that is very kind of you and I will very graciously accept. [[User:Tibetologist|Tibetologist]] ([[User talk:Tibetologist|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tibetologist|contribs]]) 14:10, 1 November 2024 (UTC) ::::I have pinged over at Wikiversity Colloquium to ask about suitability and have looped you into the conversation over there. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:20, 1 November 2024 (UTC) :Per [[:v:Wikiversity:Colloquium#Import_Resource_From_Wikibooks?]], I recommend copying and pasting, including attribution via the edit summary and talk page, add appropriate categories and links, and then it could be deleted locally. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 22:32, 3 November 2024 (UTC) == [[Citroën XM]] == Abandoned >1 decade; very minimal content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:57, 18 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Happiness]] == Significant NPOV issues; not much content; abandoned for >1 decade —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:58, 18 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Islamic Studies Grade 1]] == Abandoned >1 decade with very little content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:03, 19 October 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - the table of contents makes it clear that this book was intended to house POV religious content (e.g. a chapter titled "Allah Is The One"). This is incompatible with [[WB:NPOV]]. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 01:12, 20 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Suomen kieli käyttöön]] == Multiple pages in this book are written entirely in Finnish, which is out of the enWB scope. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:09, 19 October 2024 (UTC) :I was going to say whether we should ask any fiwikibooks sysop to maybe see if this could be transwikied to fiwb if it's within the scope there. But [[:fi:Toiminnot:Käyttäjät/sysop]] indicates that there are only 3 sysops, and only {{u|Anr}} and {{u|Zache}} have made edits this ''year''. If they deem it to be salvageable, then transwiki + delete, otherwise straight-up delete. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 11:24, 14 November 2024 (UTC) ::It seems that the idea behind the book was for the pages to be bilingual, as it’s a language learning book. That’s why there are Finnish texts included intentionally even on the pages that are complete. There are similar books in dewikibooks and ruwikibooks as well. For the English version, I think the easiest way to proceed would be to clean up and adjust the page layout to fit enwikibooks better, and then translate the missing parts. By the way, if anyone wants to update the book’s name in English, it can be titled ''"Using the Finnish Language"'' or ''"Put Finnish Language into Use"'' for a direct translation. [[User:Zache|Zache]] ([[User talk:Zache|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zache|contribs]]) 11:57, 14 November 2024 (UTC) == Several pages in [[Hobo tourism]] and [[Hobo travel journalism]] == The following pages are entirely self-promotional content that is suitable for a blog but not WB (same contributor made the [[Wikibooks:Requests for deletion#Various pages in Basics of fine-art photography|now-deleted pages from above]]). * [[Hobo tourism/Third creative trip of Viktor Pinchuk to Africa]] * [[Hobo tourism/Third African trip]] * [[Hobo tourism/Visiting Death]] * [[Hobo tourism/One day in an Afghan prison]] * [[Hobo tourism/Around the world with empty pockets]] * [[Hobo tourism/Indian dreams]] * [[Hobo tourism/Two months of wandering and 14 days behind bars]] * [[Hobo tourism/Holiday of wandering mzungu]] * [[Hobo tourism/Afghan prisoner]] * [[Hobo tourism/Two hundred days in Latin America]] * [[Hobo tourism/Mongolian huyvaldagch]] * [[Hobo tourism/Six months by islands... and countries]] * [[Hobo tourism/Viktor Pinchuk's expedition to the Islands of Oceania]] * [[Hobo tourism/Viktor Pinchuk's solo expedition to Africa (2017/18)]] * [[Hobo tourism/Latin American expedition of Viktor Pinchuk]] * [[Hobo tourism/Bum tour of winter Japan]] * [[Hobo tourism/Afghan Expedition of Viktor Pinchuk]] * [[Hobo tourism/Second creative trip of Viktor Pinchuk to Africa]] * [[Hobo tourism/Creative trip to Mongolia]] * [[Hobo tourism/Creative trip to India]] * [[Hobo tourism/First creative trip of Viktor Pinchuk to Africa]] * [[Hobo tourism/Tropical fever in the bum tour (an example from practice)]] * [[Hobo tourism/African Robbery]] * [[Hobo travel journalism/With a backpack around the planet (rubric in the newspaper “Southern Capital”)]] * [[Hobo travel journalism/Returning from distant wanderings (rubric in the newspaper "Republic of Crimea")]] * [[Hobo travel journalism/Wind of wanderings (rubric in the newspaper "Crimean Time")]] * [[Hobo travel journalism/Around the World (rubric in the newspaper "Crimean Observer")]] * [[Hobo travel journalism/Travel notes (rubric in the ProX magazine)]] —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:01, 24 October 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - I would support deleting the entire book, not just these chapters. Even aside from the self-promotional content listed above, other chapters give some ''extremely questionable'' advice on sleeping arrangements, such as: :* Trespassing on private property ([[Hobo tourism/Overnight stays in long intercontinental journeys/In halls and stairwells]]; [[Hobo tourism/Overnight stays in long intercontinental journeys/On objects under construction]]) :* Sleeping inside archaeological sites ([[Hobo tourism/Overnight stays in long intercontinental journeys/In the ancient pyramid]]) :* Harassing locals if they don't let you into their house ([[Hobo tourism/Overnight stays in long intercontinental journeys/In Aboriginal dwellings]] - "independently knock on any dwelling, asking for a place under a canopy in the yard; with a negative result, repeating the action repeatedly") :[[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 04:45, 25 October 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} Agree with above. Delete all.--[[User:Xania|Xania]] [[Image:Flag_of_Estonia.svg|15px]] [[Image:Flag_of_Ukraine.svg|15px]] [[User talk:Xania|<sup>talk</sup>]] 03:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC) ::These articles have many internal links from English-language Wikinews. Removing the material would harm the news articles and the project as a whole. — [[User:Виктор Пинчук|Виктор Пинчук]] ([[User talk:Виктор Пинчук|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Виктор Пинчук|contribs]]) 15:55, 10 November 2024 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:Виктор Пинчук|Виктор Пинчук]]—while I understand your concern, I'm fairly certain that being linked to is not an acceptable justification in policy or otherwise for content that is inappropriate for Wikibooks in the first place. If that were the case, vandalism or other inappropriate material could be kept simply because it is linked to somewhere else. If consensus says that these pages don't belong at Wikibooks due to the unsuitability of the content, I think that decision will stand independently. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 17:28, 10 November 2024 (UTC) :::Vandalism is a harmful and unproductive change for the project. But what is reviewed by administrators (precisely administrators, not one administrator) of English-language news cannot be compared to vandalism. Such an example is inappropriate. — [[User:Виктор Пинчук|Виктор Пинчук]] ([[User talk:Виктор Пинчук|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Виктор Пинчук|contribs]]) 19:11, 10 November 2024 (UTC) :::Then that is an issue which Wikinews can deal with. Wikibooks is its own project, and can make its own decisions about the suitability of content. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:06, 10 November 2024 (UTC) ::::Wikibooks is harming Wikinews, and that's its problem. Well, that's fine. <br>However, I want to say that any paper textbook can be supplemented with optional material containing examples on the topic from the author's personal practice. It can be published as a separate brochure or included in a paper textbook. Who wants to — reads, does not want — does not read.They probably haven't heard about it in the English section...— [[User:Виктор Пинчук|Виктор Пинчук]] ([[User talk:Виктор Пинчук|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Виктор Пинчук|contribs]]) 16:32, 12 November 2024 (UTC) ::::: Это живой и рабочий проект, Виктор. И вы разговариваете с двумя администраторами. Ваши самопиарки поудаляют вскорости, смиритесь. — Ирука<sup>[[user:Iruka13|13]]</sup> 19:45, 12 November 2024 (UTC) : {{vd}} I put [[:ru:wb:К_удалению/Июль_2023#статьи_из_Категория:Книги_русского_путешественника_Виктора_Пинчука_--|half of these articles on ruBooks for deletion a year ago]]. Alas, ruBooks are more dead than alive. — Ирука<sup>[[user:Iruka13|13]]</sup> 19:45, 12 November 2024 (UTC) == files from Phoenix Wright == Used for decorative, not educational, purposes ([[WB:NFCC]]#8): [[:File:AAIME Official Artwork.jpg]], [[:File:PWAAJFA episode1.png]], [[:File:PW JFA Official Artwork.jpg]], [[:File:Gyakuten Kenji 2 Official Artwork.png]], [[:File:AJ officialart.jpg]], [[:File:PW T&T Official Artwork.jpg]], [[:File:SMB2 dream staircase art.jpg]]. Galleries ([[WB:NFCC]]#3): [[:File:Moonflow 27.jpg]], [[:File:Macalania 18.jpg]], [[:File:Chauncey LM.jpg]] , [[:File:King Boo LM.jpg]], [[:File:Boolossus LM.jpg]]. — Ирука<sup>[[user:Iruka13|13]]</sup> 16:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC) :My thoughts below: :* [[:File:AAIME Official Artwork.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:PWAAJFA episode1.png]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:PW JFA Official Artwork.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:Gyakuten Kenji 2 Official Artwork.png]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:AJ officialart.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:PW T&T Official Artwork.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:SMB2 dream staircase art.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:Moonflow 27.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Keep''' low resolution and seems to be illustrating something :* [[:File:Macalania 18.jpg]] Uncertain :* [[:File:Chauncey LM.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Keep''' seems to be actually illustrating something :* [[:File:King Boo LM.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Keep''' seems to be actually illustrating something :* [[:File:Boolossus LM.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Keep''' seems to be actually illustrating something :Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:12, 30 October 2024 (UTC) == [[A Summary of Theology and Thought in Messianic Judaism]] == Abandoned >1 decade; little to no meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:25, 13 November 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:55, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[SEAWORLD CHRISTMAS CELEBRATION 2021-PRESENT]] == {{closed| closed complete —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:37, 24 December 2024 (UTC)}} CSD contested by author twice--reasons given were "Test page" and "No useful content." Courtesy pings: {{u|Xeverything11}}, {{u|Ternera}}. [[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] ([[User talk:JJPMaster|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|contribs]]) 22:54, 27 November 2024 (UTC) :{{not done|Not undeleted}} What the IP created is out-of-scope for Wikibooks. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 08:17, 28 November 2024 (UTC) ::[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Done'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} I'm pretty sure this was a delete request, and it was brought here because the original editor kept removing the speedy deletion tag! I already completed it :) —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:29, 29 November 2024 (UTC) :::<span class="template-ping">@[[:User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]], [[:User:SHB2000|SHB2000]]:</span> Yeah, I didn't want to edit war over keeping the CSD tag, so I RfD'd it to play it safe. [[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] ([[User talk:JJPMaster|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|contribs]]) 18:32, 30 November 2024 (UTC) ::::oh, right cool – cheers for making a request here. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 19:26, 30 November 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == NVQ Carpentry books == * [[NVQ Carpentry Level 2]] * [[NVQ Carpentry Level 3]] These pages are both largely unformatted lists of test questions and answers pertaining to UK carpentry training programs (cf. [[:w:National Vocational Qualification]]). They are not written as books, and would take a major effort to transform into appropriate training materials for the associated coursework, rather than the "cheat sheets" they are now. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 18:14, 13 December 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:54, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[AvernumScript]] == This book is a copydump of the Blades of Avernum documentation, which is not freely licensed. (The original documentation is available at [http://www.avernum.com/blades/scen_workshop.html], in the "Blades of Avernum Editor" download, as "BoA Editor Docs v12.pdf".) [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 18:33, 13 December 2024 (UTC) :If it's a copyvio, I think we can speedy delete it. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 03:23, 16 December 2024 (UTC) == [[WikiLang]] == * [[WikiLang]] * about 70 subpages; see [[Special:PrefixIndex/WikiLang/]] for a full list * [[Transwiki:WikiLang/Gothic alphabet/𐌰]] * [[Transwiki:WikiLang/Jeju]] * [[Transwiki:WikiLang/Plattdüütsch Phonology]] These pages were imported from [[:m:WikiLang]] in 2021 for unclear reasons. It was originally a proposal for a new Wikimedia project which was rejected in 2017. The main page still contains the project proposal from meta, and the subpages contain a mishmash of encyclopedic content (e.g. [[WikiLang/Africa]]), word lists (e.g. [[WikiLang/Blackfoot/Animals]]), and miscellaneous project content (e.g. [[WikiLang/Media]], [[WikiLang/News]], etc). While the goals of this project may be laudable, this material doesn't add up to a book, and [[WB:NOTMETA|Wikibooks is not a launchpad for new Wikimedia projects]]. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:05, 13 December 2024 (UTC) : See [[m:Meta:Requests_for_deletion/Archives/2021#WikiLang_pages]]. This also already exists on Wikiversity as [[v:Portal:Wikilang]]. I guess we don't need both. [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 19:15, 11 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Transwiki:Bypassing the Great Firewall of China]] == This content was imported from Wikipedia about 18 years ago (!), but never found a home in any existing book. Given its extreme age, the instructions on this page are no longer relevant or useful; the Tor Project has more up-to-date content on the topic on its own web site. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 00:02, 15 December 2024 (UTC) :If it's out of date, not useful, and not part of any other book, I can't see a good reason for keeping it. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 03:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC) : {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:53, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Transwiki:Easy Hydroponics Feeding]] == This reads like a promotional article for a brand of plant food ("Maxsea"). Even if we had an appropriate book to merge this into, this wouldn't belong in it. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 00:05, 15 December 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} per listed reasons. It does seem suspiciously like promotional material. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 03:25, 16 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Anglese]] == A very incomplete lexicon (consisting of about a dozen words) for what appears to be a constructed language. Even if this were a real language, which it doesn't appear to be, it'd belong on Wiktionary, not here. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 21:26, 16 December 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:52, 23 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} per stated reasoning. Extremely small amount of content, not well-defined as book. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:27, 24 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Adam Curylo's Python]] == A small collection of a user's Python programs and notes on external resources. This isn't useful as a book (as it's almost entirely source code); we have multiple books like [[Python Programming]] on the topic already. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 21:26, 16 December 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} Wikibooks is not GitHub. [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:52, 23 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} per stated reasoning —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:28, 24 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Teaching Social Studies in Virtual Space]] == Abandoned; no substantial content since the book was created in 2011. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 05:26, 17 December 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} A lot of meta-content but no actual content. [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:52, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Template:Ncd]] == Unnecessary hardcoded instance of {{tlx|Now Commons}}. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 05:13, 22 December 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} Unused legacy import. [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:51, 23 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} or redirect to the new template. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:47, 21 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Proposed New Characters: The Pipeline]] == A couple issues with this one: * The book scope is unclear, and there has been no engagement with the query flag. * I'm concerned that this is part of the long-term vandalism we've been having with unicode-related materials. See the following discussions for some context: ** [[Wikibooks:Reading_room/Administrative_Assistance/Archives/2023/April#Please_check_sockpuppets_editing_Unicode/Versions| Please check sockpuppets editing Unicode/Versions (April 2023)]] ** [[Wikibooks:Reading_room/Administrative_Assistance/Archives/2023/July#Unicode/Versions|Unicode/Versions (July 2023)]] **[[Wikibooks:Reading_room/Administrative_Assistance/Archives/2024/August#Special:Contributions/2405:204:0:0:0:0:0:0/32_and_w:Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1157#IP_editor_adds_unsourced_content_to_JP_writing_system_articles|IP editor adds unsourced content to JP writing system articles (August 2024)]] ** [[Wikibooks:Reading_room/Administrative_Assistance/Archives/2024/August#CU_request|CU request (August 2024)]] —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:14, 29 December 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - this is a mixture of copy/pasted content from the Unicode web site and made-up nonsense. [https://unicode.org/versions/Unicode17.0.0/ Unicode 17.0 is currently a draft], and is likely to be released in September '''2025''' (not 2024 as stated on this page). The remainder of the page appears to be conflating accepted Unicode proposals, pending proposals, and unofficial assignments (e.g. for constructed scripts); the result is an incomprehensible mess. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 20:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - definitely doesn't seem to fit. <sup>&#8212; [[User:L10nM4st3r|<span style="color:#c71300">L10nM4st3r</span>]]</sup> / <sub>[[User talk:L10nM4st3r|<span style="color:#ce3f00">'''ROAR''' at me!</span>]]</sub> 15:23, 15 January 2025 (UTC) == [[AT&T Mobility FAQ]] == * [[AT&T Mobility FAQ]] * [[AT&T Mobility FAQ/MEdia Net Configuration]] * [[AT&T Mobility FAQ/Data Connect Configuration]] An ''extremely'' outdated FAQ on AT&T's cell phone services. Most of this document was written 20+ years ago as a Usenet FAQ; very little of it is accurate or useful anymore (particularly the two subpages, which have to do with obsolete configurations for "tethering" a computer to a cell phone). No objection if someone wants to update it, but there's clearly been no appetite to do that. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC) :I'm wondering if it might make sense for us to develop some kind of policy on archiving books here. There are many like this one that have a good deal of content but are extremely out of date and just not useful as originally intended. ——[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:34, 30 December 2024 (UTC) ::@[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]]: See the newly developed [[Wikibooks:Outdated books]]. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 00:16, 31 December 2024 (UTC) :::Ooh, thanks - something like that seems like it could be an appropriate way to handle this book. A lot of the other outdated books I've tagged have been so incomplete that they wouldn't have been particularly useful even as historical references; this one might at least have some interest. :::Any chance we can get a separate namespace (maybe "Archive:") set up for archived book content? That'd make it possible to do things like exclude them from on-site search by default. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 21:07, 31 December 2024 (UTC) ::::I think this might be a more extended discussion, so I'll bump it over to the [[Wikibooks talk:Outdated books|talk page of the draft policy]]! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:54, 31 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Install osDate]] == Single-page book on how to install a piece of software which, as far as I can tell, is no longer available anywhere. This doesn't feel like a great candidate for archiving, as it's largely repeating instructions which were almost certainly included in the software installer - there's no unique insight worth saving here. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 01:48, 1 January 2025 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 19:18, 13 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Skript+]] == This book is about a scripting language made by the main contributor (who did all but one of the contributions in the whole book). There are, also, NO mentions of "Skript+", excluding random forums discussing a Minecraft mod. The "scripting language" is for ChatGPT. I, personally, do not believe I will ever need to determine the output of a ChatGPT conversation because the purpose of ChatGPT is not to provide a predetermined output. It, also, does not have many features, which makes it practically useless. And new information will not be added because the user is now inactive. It doesn't even mention how to import "Skript+". It even states that it is a concept. A concept cannot be a education resource. [[User:GrammarPoliceOffical|GrammarPoliceOffical]] ([[User talk:GrammarPoliceOffical|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/GrammarPoliceOffical|contribs]]) 03:45, 3 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} for the following reasons: :* Book has been abandoned with very little content; :* Book does not have any real introductory matter or other content explaining it in sufficient detail; :* Cannot find evidence of this scripting language or its adoption anywhere else, and the only contributor explicitly says they invented it; :* As was mentioned, I can't understand how a scripting language is even supposed to work when fed into a large language model like GPT. That's not how scripting or LLMs are designed to work. :—[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:44, 3 January 2025 (UTC) ::Concur. This "scripting language" is entirely imaginary. It's running with the concept that a language model can follow simple instructions, and trying to formalize that behavior into a "language". But there is no such formal language; the language model is just trying to play along with whatever input the user throws at it. Trying to document it is futile. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Learn Polish with This Book]] == Is an empty book. A book for Polish already exists ([[Polish]]). [[User:GrammarPoliceOffical|GrammarPoliceOffical]] ([[User talk:GrammarPoliceOffical|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/GrammarPoliceOffical|contribs]]) 03:55, 3 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} per stated reasons —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:35, 3 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...d6/2. Qg4]] == Obvious queen blunder which has [https://old.chesstempo.com/gamedb/fen/rnbqkbnr/ppp1pppp/3p4/8/4P1Q1/8/PPPP1PPP/RNB1KBNR%20b%20KQkq%20-%201%202 never] been played at master level, and would never be mentioned in a chess opening book. [[User:J Mo 101|J Mo 101]] ([[User talk:J Mo 101|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/J Mo 101|contribs]]) 18:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}}. This is described in [https://en.chessbase.com/post/bust-this-a-philosophical-opening a Chessbase blog post] as "the worst blunder in the opening that does not lead to immediate checkmate", and in [https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/23480/have-engines-refuted-any-established-openings a chess.stackexchange answer] as a "nonsense opening". The intent of this book is to describe common practice, not to enumerate every possible move. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 03:54, 13 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Cookbook talk:Grilled_Cheese_Sandwich]] == {{closed|Resolved —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:48, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} '''Please note that I am only nominating the talk page for deletion.''' This talk page is a copyright violation. It copies content from an [[WB:BADTRANSWIKI#Unrecoverable bad transwikis|unrecoverable talk page]] from enwiki, and the attribution provided ("Copied talk page from en:Talk:Grilled cheese sandwich") is insufficient, as it fails to account for the GFDL's requirement that "... you must ... Preserve the section Entitled "History", Preserve its Title, and add to it an item stating at least the title, year, new authors, and publisher of the Modified Version as given on the Title Page." The history provided is only of the associated cookbook page, not the talk page itself. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 05:57, 11 January 2025 (UTC) * The signatures of the copied comments provide needed attribution, right? [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 06:06, 11 January 2025 (UTC) *:@[[User:Pppery|Pppery]]: I don't know if that's sufficient, since the page history ("section Entitled 'History'") itself is not included. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 06:13, 11 January 2025 (UTC) *::The [[w:Wikipedia:Volunteer Response Team|Volunteer Response Team]] has confirmed off-wiki that the signature is indeed sufficient attribution. Therefore, {{withdrawn}}. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 15:18, 12 January 2025 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[My Preferences When Meeting New Friends]] == Probably doesn't fit into wikibooks, looks to be more of an opinionated book. <sup>&#8212; [[User:L10nM4st3r|<span style="color:#c71300">L10nM4st3r</span>]]</sup> / <sub>[[User talk:L10nM4st3r|<span style="color:#ce3f00">'''ROAR''' at me!</span>]]</sub> 09:43, 16 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Co-Life]] == This appears to be documentation for an internal web application at the National Center for High-performance Computing in Taiwan which is no longer online. (It's unclear if it was ever available to the public in the first place, or if it was only available to staff.) Either way, the documentation is of no use to us or anyone. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 03:30, 17 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} per stated reasoning. There's very little content, and it just doesn't seem useful or worth preserving to me. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:03, 7 February 2025 (UTC) == Mandarin edition of the OpenSSH wikibook is an abandoned fragment and not based on the actual book == The Chinese edition of the OpenSSH wikibook is only a tiny fragment of a single page which has remained abandoned since 2017. Furthermore, the text which it contains is not even based on the actual book. Please tidy things up by deleting the [https://zh.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH Chinese OpenSSH book page] and removing all links to it, if any, which are found on the main book. Thanks. If the page cannot be deleted, please at least remove the link to it from the English edition of the [https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH OpenSSH book]. Thanks again. — [[User:Larsnooden|Larsnooden]] ([[User talk:Larsnooden|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Larsnooden|contribs]]) 09:53, 28 January 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Larsnooden|Larsnooden]] We cannot do the first one (you'll need to bring it up directly with the zh.wikibooks users), and the second one is also difficult, because the interwiki links are actually hosted on Wikidata and I am not sure if we can remove a link for this reason. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 12:30, 28 January 2025 (UTC) ::I understand. Have I marked the page correctly for deletion there? If so, will it eventually be processed by the zh.wikibooks commmunity? — [[User:Larsnooden|Larsnooden]] ([[User talk:Larsnooden|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Larsnooden|contribs]]) 13:41, 28 January 2025 (UTC) :::It looks like a deletion discussion has been created; however, it also looks like there's very little activity on the discussion page, with some discussions having been open for several years. So I wouldn't hold my breath. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 01:15, 4 February 2025 (UTC) == [[Rc]] == There are precisely zero links to this cross-namespace redirect that didn't work at the time of creation. I converted it into a soft redirect instead of RfDing thinking that that could break links, before realizing that there are none. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 04:47, 5 February 2025 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 04:56, 21 March 2025 (UTC) == Algebra/Chapter 10/Symmetric Polynomials == I personally believe that [[Algebra/Chapter 10/Symmetric Polynomials|this]], and all of the sections should be deleted for the fact that this goes WAY beyond the scope of what was intended for the Chapter (Algebra II level polynomials). [[User:GoreyCat|GoreyCat]] ([[User talk:GoreyCat|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/GoreyCat|contribs]]) 15:07, 6 February 2025 (UTC) :'''Split''': Deletion here is not the best solution (see [[w:WP:ATD]]). Instead, this page and its subpages should be moved to another book, most likely [[Abstract Algebra]]. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 17:35, 6 February 2025 (UTC) :{{keep}} since there is a good amount of content. If [[Abstract Algebra]] is appropriate, it seems like a fine idea to move there. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:59, 7 February 2025 (UTC) ::Eh, yeah, I supposed moving it is better. I just don't think it's suitable for where it appears. [[User:GoreyCat|GoreyCat]] ([[User talk:GoreyCat|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/GoreyCat|contribs]]) 01:40, 8 February 2025 (UTC) == [[Change Issues in Curriculum and Instruction]] == This book is a school project with OR that should be moved to Wikiversity. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 03:30, 8 February 2025 (UTC) :I'm not certain this is a good fit for Wikiversity either. It's essentially a collection of student essays written in 2007 on various topics related to education. If this were an active project there'd be more of an argument for moving it, but in its current state I don't think it makes sense to keep. It's hopelessly mired in opinion and often badly outdated; I'm inclined to say the answer will be to {{vd}} it. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:02, 8 February 2025 (UTC) == History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/A == The following pages are also nominated for deletion: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/B https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/C https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/D https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/E https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/F https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/G https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/H https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/I https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/J https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/K https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/L These are now all duplicate pages that were: (1) originally created by @Xeverything11 in Dec 2024 by extracting portion of History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies; (2) then "blanked" (all content removed) by myself in Dec 2024 contemporaneous with discussions with @Kittycataclysmat and @Leaderboard in Reading_room/General (topic: Page Size); (3) then reverted by @JJPMaster in Feb 2025 with a suggestion that the pages needed to be referred for Speedy Deletion here. The individual alphabetical pages are now duplicates and orphans and should be deleted. The original pages have been updated over the last two months and the existence of the duplicate pages serves no purpose and is confusing == [[Introduction to Human Geography]] == Abandoned for multiple years, only one page has any meaningful content, and it's about two paragraphs —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:53, 9 February 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} Seems abandoned and lacks content. --[[User:Xania|Xania]] [[Image:Flag_of_Estonia.svg|15px]] [[Image:Flag_of_Ukraine.svg|15px]] [[User talk:Xania|<sup>talk</sup>]] 03:38, 17 February 2025 (UTC) == [[Plug-in Development for Google Desktop]] == The [[:w:Google Desktop]] software was discontinued in 2011. Neither the application nor its SDK are available anymore (and the software probably wouldn't work even if you obtained a copy), so the information on this page is no longer useful to anyone. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 02:06, 5 March 2025 (UTC) :'''Delete'''. The [[Wikibooks:Deletion policy|deletion policy]] isn't 100% clear on what to do with stuff like this. Because the definition of "meaningful content" can be open to interpretation, in this case, I would argue this page lacks in meaningful content because there is no reason anyone would ever need it anymore, given the fact that Google Desktop is long deprecated. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 11:40, 5 March 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} because there is so little content and organization that it wouldn't really make sense to archive it. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:50, 21 March 2025 (UTC) == [[2009 UIL Spelling Study Manual]] == The 2009 UIL Spelling Competition was over 15 years ago; it's unlikely that this outdated word list would be of use to anyone - especially since it was never completed; the last word defined (in alphabetical order) is "casus belli", and the word list itself stops at "futurity race". I'm not sure the full list is even available anywhere, nor that the study manual would be any more useful even if it were finished. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 02:29, 5 March 2025 (UTC) :'''Delete'''. Clearly abandoned, and lacking in meaningful content. I agree with the nominator that this would be unlikely to be useful even if it were able to be finished. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 11:31, 5 March 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} per stated reasoning. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:51, 21 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Puredyne]] == Development of Puredyne Linux was discontinued in 2012, and the software no longer appears to be available for download anywhere. (An archive of the web site is still up - with a bunch of embedded spam links - but the download links are all dead.) Is this a suitable candidate for archival (cf. [[Wikibooks:Outdated books]]), or should it just be deleted? [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 04:35, 5 March 2025 (UTC) :I'd just archive stuff like this. Looks like a decent bit of work went into it, and you never know when someone might need to use Puredyne for some obscure project. I'd be willing to bet mirrors exist of it somewhere, or someone has it on a drive. If you want to find some stuff worth deleting, comb through [[:Category:Allbooks categories]]. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 11:30, 5 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Laptop Computer Models]] == This book aimed to become a catalog of "all known laptop computer models". Whether this sort of database is even in scope for Wikibooks is questionable. But it's beyond question that the book has failed to achieve its objective - out of the many thousands of models of laptops that have been manufactured, this book only has information on a few dozen, mostly from around 2010 (when it was written). Most of the subpages are incomplete, and there seems to be little interest in improving or updating the book. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 20:09, 17 March 2025 (UTC) * Intuitively or from heart, I would delete the material as per above: it is too underdeveloped and has been so for a long time. However, it is not clear that it matches policy. To address a possible policy problem, I started [[Wikibooks:Reading room/General#Deleting stale stubs]]. The policy states: "In general, keep stubs that can be improved on, but delete stubs that are too narrowly defined or do not have a decent definition of what they are about." --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 09:51, 22 March 2025 (UTC) *:As a matter of policy, I'm fairly certain that a book of this nature would already be out of scope per [[WB:NOTWP]]. If an encyclopedia or dictionary is out of scope as insufficiently "book-like", a catalog like this is only more so. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 20:51, 23 March 2025 (UTC) *:: That seems right: "Wikibooks is not an in-depth encyclopedia on a specific topic nor are pages encyclopedia-formatted articles. Books build knowledge from one page to the next, with interdependency between pages. Books in progress are sometimes organized in an encyclopedic manner until developed into proper books. For an encyclopedia, see our sister project Wikipedia." However, I think this is a bad policy as formulated, in part since it would lead e.g. to deletion of [[Windows Batch Scripting]]. That is to say, I do not think chapters/sections/parts of a book should be required to be integrated, one building on another. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 19:27, 26 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Template:R from move]] == The template in question is not added to redirects that were created after moving a page. In fact, [[:Category:Redirects from moves]] does not exist. Both the template and the documentation contain multiple non-existent templates. This template appears to be an exact copy of the template on [[w:Template:R from move|Wikipedia]]. (except for the hatnote which was moved from the template to the documentation on Wikibooks, unlike Wikipedia; the hatnote was removed from the documentation because the template is not added to redirects that result from page moves) – [[User:TG-article|<span style="color:darkgrey;font-family:monospace">'''TG-ARTICLE'''</span>]] ([[User talk:TG-article|<span style="color:#255373;font-family:monospace">talk</span>]]) 17:20, 19 March 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} - this looks like it was inadvertently pulled in during the 2024 import of {{tl|Isotones}}; see [https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:Log?user=Leaderboard&wpdate=2024-06-08 logs] for details. There's a handful of other unused templates in the Transwiki namespace which transclude this template, which should probably be deleted as well. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 02:57, 20 March 2025 (UTC) : {{vd}} Sigh. [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 04:55, 21 March 2025 (UTC) : {{vd}} per nom. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 10:02, 23 March 2025 (UTC) == [[MediaWiki:Wantedpages]] == Says the special page is disabled. It isn't anymore. [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 04:55, 21 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Wikibooks:Ignore all rules]] == The title of this page, created in 2024 without discussion as far as I can see, is a dishonest/Orwellian exhortation. It should ideally be deleted. No honest person, especially administrator, can admonish other editors to ignore all rules. Being driven by good rules is a sign of well administered public wiki that as if anyone can edit. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 19:14, 26 March 2025 (UTC) :{{keep}} as the author of the page. "Ignore all rules" is one of the most fundamental ideals of the Wikimedia movement (see [[meta:Ignore all rules]] for information about it, as well as the interwiki links on [[WB:IAR]]). (Note: I did not become an administrator until after I created the page) [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 03:52, 28 March 2025 (UTC) :: It is not an ideal but rather an anti-ideal. The meta page states: "If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining a project, ignore it." I am a semi-admin/curator in the English Wikiversity, capable of deleting pages; should I follow the quoted meta-rule, I could immediately start deleting bad pages in volume regardless of policies, guidelines and common practice: I would argue that the existing rules (policies, guidelines, etc.) prevent me from improving or maintaining the project. The same problem exists in Wikibooks: if I was a Wikibooks administrator, I could claim that the rule of using RFD to delete bad pages prevents me from (efficiently) improving or maintaining a project, then ignore the rule and start deleting bad pages in volume via speedy deletion. The reason why this does not happen is that administrators do in general in fact abide by rules (policies and guidelines), even those rules that prevent them from improving the project (improving by their assessment). :: I therefore repeat my proposal to delete this dishonest page, fortunately not matching the actual practice. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 13:44, 3 April 2025 (UTC) == [[Anarchist FAQ]] == The book is mostly copied from https://anarchistfaq.org/afaq, which is [https://anarchistfaq.org/afaq/intro.html licensed] only under the GFDL. This violates [[WB:COPY]], which says that "you cannot import information which is available only under the GFDL". [[User:Jlwoodwa|jlwoodwa]] ([[User talk:Jlwoodwa|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jlwoodwa|contribs]]) 02:57, 28 March 2025 (UTC) :{{u|JJPMaster}} said in [[Special:Diff/4484327|an edit summary]] that the copyright holder was "contacted with instructions to email VRT". [[User:Jlwoodwa|jlwoodwa]] ([[User talk:Jlwoodwa|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jlwoodwa|contribs]]) 03:37, 28 March 2025 (UTC) :Much of the content was copied before dual licensing was introduced at Wikibooks and is therefore not a violation of the policy that was in force at the time. This is therefore not a valid deletion reason for any content that pre-dates the introduction of dual licensing [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 11:37, 28 March 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} - the fact that the content of this book is almost entirely copied from an outside source is itself a problem, regardless of the license of that work. The purpose of Wikibooks is to develop new freely licensed texts, not merely to create copies of existing texts. [[Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/Anarchist FAQ|A 2009 request for deletion]] was closed as "keep on the condition it is developed and not hosted as a completed work". Over fifteen years later, this still hasn't happened, and there's no indication that it ever will. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 04:36, 29 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Template:Qr-twwp]] == This isn't exactly a request to delete the template, but rather to merge it with {{tlx|Copypaste}}. The {{tlx|Qr-twwp}} template serves the same purpose as {{tlx|Copypaste}}, but without the seven-day period after which the page is deleted. This leads to confusion, as well as a perpetually full [[:Category:Queried pages]]. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 17:37, 30 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Evalution of Online Sources]] == {{closed|1=Deleted. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 02:54, 20 June 2025 (UTC)}} Abandoned for multiple years, no meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:36, 2 May 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}}. No content beyond the introduction. Pity - it'd be a useful resource if it existed. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 21:55, 4 May 2025 (UTC) :Deleted [[User talk:QueerEcofeminist|per creator agreement]] —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:32, 5 May 2025 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Character Encodings]] == Was never fleshed out into a proper book and consists only of code tables —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:40, 2 May 2025 (UTC) == [[Defence in Depth for Securing Computer Systems]] == Abandoned for over a decade; very little meaningful content with no plan for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:45, 2 May 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} - what little content exists in this book is badly out of date. Computer security has changed a lot over the last ~20 years; the basic recommendations made in this book like "you should have a configuration management system" or "make sure your server cabinet is locked" simply don't cut it anymore. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:06, 4 May 2025 (UTC) == [[CASP]] == Abandoned for over a decade; no meaningful content; just lists of terms —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:49, 2 May 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} - this is just a list of objectives for the exam, and [https://partners.comptia.org/docs/default-source/resources/comptia-casp-cas-004-exam-objectives-(4-0) the current objectives of the exam] are completely different than those shown here. (Unsurprisingly so, given that this book was created in 2014, and that computer security hasn't stood still in the meantime.) [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:12, 4 May 2025 (UTC) == [[Managing enterprises with advanced ICT]] == Abandoned for multiple years; little meaningful content; was never more than a list of outlinks to enWP —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:51, 2 May 2025 (UTC) == [[Adobe GoLive Guide]] == Abandoned, fragmentary manual for a piece of web design software which was discontinued in 2008. Further development seems unlikely; no substantial edits have been made in the last 15+ years. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 20:29, 15 May 2025 (UTC) == [[Transwiki:Takeminakata]] == Copied Wikipedia article, per [[WP:NOTWP]]. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 23:48, 25 May 2025 (UTC) :[[User:Immanuelle|Immanuelle]] requested that this be imported in December 2024 ([[Wikibooks:Requests for import/Archives/2024/December#Multiple pages for User:Immanuelle]]. @[[User:Immanuelle|Immanuelle]]: Do you have any plans for this page? [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 05:15, 26 May 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] Yes I do have plans for it. I was meaning to import it to here [[User:Immanuelle/sandbox/Suwa_Faith]] and work on it. But I thought the request was never responded to. It is part of a project for making a book talking about types of Shinto shrines. Although I cannot promise I will complete it soon. [[User:Immanuelle|Immanuelle]] ([[User talk:Immanuelle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Immanuelle|contribs]]) 07:44, 26 May 2025 (UTC) ::: Oh, and if that's the case, you can move this and I'll withdraw this request, is that correct? [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 00:03, 27 May 2025 (UTC) ::::Can we merge in the history here? [[User:Immanuelle|Immanuelle]] ([[User talk:Immanuelle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Immanuelle|contribs]]) 22:50, 1 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Ainu]] == Abandoned multiple years; no meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:18, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Australia's International Airline Freight]] == Seems out of scope (not book-like) and potentially encyclopedic; minimal content and potential for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:21, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == Pages in [[Baptist Theology]] == * [[Baptist Theology/Character of God]] * [[Baptist Theology/The Church]] * [[Baptist Theology/The Apostles Creed]] * [[Baptist Theology/Salvation]] * [[Baptist Theology/Origin of Sin]] * [[Baptist Theology/Men and Women in God's Creation]] * [[Baptist Theology/Last Things]] * [[Baptist Theology/Jesus Christ (the Son of God)]] * [[Baptist Theology/Its supernatural origin]] * [[Baptist Theology/Holy Spirit]] * [[Baptist Theology/God the Father]] * [[Baptist Theology/Existence of God]] Entire book is orphaned and was never properly structured; suffers from key and widespread NPOV issues; abandoned and undeveloped —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:27, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Bible Stories/The Birth of Jesus]] == Orphaned page and out of scope (single story) —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:28, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Chemical Dynamics/Electrostatics]] == Abandoned >1 decade; orphaned; minimal meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:47, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == Subpages in [[Christian Hymns]] == All pages are orphaned; per [[WB:SOURCE]] this is a repository and is out of scope —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:54, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Economic Sophisms]] == Per [[WB:SOURCE]]. The previous RFD was closed as no consensus though there was reasonable evidence to delete. Previous discussions had suggested that the book could be improved, but it has now been several years without progress or moves to annotate the book for compliance with WB scope. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 15:26, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Essentials of Number Theory]] == Abandoned with minimal content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 15:34, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == winarsi@gmail.com == {| class="wikitable" |+ Caption text |- ! Header text !! Header text !! Header text |- | Example || Example || Example |- | Example || Example || Example |- | Example || Example || Example |} cqslkygx7uahx2e21wgq8dobvdwr0gx 4520796 4520791 2025-07-01T16:54:54Z 103.149.19.70 /* winarsi@gmail.com */ new section 4520796 wikitext text/x-wiki __NEWSECTIONLINK__ [[Category:Wikibooks deletion|{{PAGENAME}}]] {{Discussion Rooms}} {{TOCleft}} {{Requests for deletion/Archives}} {{Requests for deletion/Using Template:Icon}} {{clear}} = Undeletion = {{shortcut|WB:RFU}} {{Requests for deletion/New undeletion}} {{Requests for deletion/Undeletion intro}} ==[[Transwiki:Effects of different voting systems under similar circumstances]]== This page had several years of editing on English Wikipedia, then was moved over to Wikibooks. I'm an admin on enwiki, so I've undeleted the parent article on enwiki and put it the Draft namespace over to decide what do with the prose (see [[w:Draft:Effects of different voting systems under similar circumstances]]). I think it would be possible to create a coherent book about voting systems using this example to tie together the explanations of various voting systems. Since I'm not an admin on English Wikibooks, I can't see what work was done after the move was performed, so I'd like to see what (if anything) other folks were able to do with the material after the move. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/RobLa|contribs]]) 21:47, 1 February 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:RobLa|RobLa]]! It looks like it was deleted in 2012 because it was never worked on after the initial import. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:51, 2 February 2025 (UTC) ::Thanks for the update, @[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]]! Could you undelete it? I'd like to work on it. I didn't have time to work on it when it was moved, but I have time now. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/RobLa|contribs]]) 06:22, 2 February 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:RobLa|RobLa]]: I've userfied it for you. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 06:28, 2 February 2025 (UTC) :::<nowiki>[[File:Nuvola French flag.svg]]</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:D480:A020:B046:89CA:1E3E:FF9D|2600:1700:D480:A020:B046:89CA:1E3E:FF9D]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:D480:A020:B046:89CA:1E3E:FF9D|discuss]]) 18:35, 21 March 2025 (UTC) ==[[City Of Heroes]]== {{closed|Was undeleted —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:39, 17 August 2024 (UTC)}} A book that was deleted when strategy guides were not allowed. See discussion -<span style="background:yellow;>User:Slava Ukraini Heroyam Slava 123 <span style="color:blue span> 17:13, 12 November 2022 (UTC)</span></span> :This book was deleted about 16 years ago and only one page had a significant amount of content. It could all be undeleted but would probably be better re-made from scratch.--[[User:Xania|Xania]] [[Image:Flag_of_Estonia.svg|15px]] [[Image:Flag_of_Ukraine.svg|15px]] [[User talk:Xania|<sup>talk</sup>]] 01:34, 11 August 2023 (UTC) ::'''Undeleted it''' with many first-level subpages. Yet [[City Of Heroes/Archetypes]], [[City Of Heroes/Powers]], [[City Of Heroes/General Help]], [[City Of Heroes/Enhancements]], [[City Of Heroes/Binds]] and [[City Of Heroes/Badges]] have even more subpages to be undeleted.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] ([[User talk:Jusjih|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jusjih|contribs]]) 22:50, 19 August 2023 (UTC) :::'''Undeleted''' many subpages of the above subpages, less obviously useless versions. Yet any administrators are hereby advised to check [[Special:Undelete]] for more to be undeleted.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] ([[User talk:Jusjih|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jusjih|contribs]]) 21:52, 21 August 2023 (UTC) :Remaking this content from scratch might be difficult - the game shut down in 2012. There's a small community of users running private servers based on leaked source code (!), but far fewer than when the game was active. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 07:55, 26 August 2023 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Mass undeletion of books that were deleted when strategy guides were not allowed.]]== {{closed|Not done —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:40, 17 August 2024 (UTC)}} Couldn't we just mass undelete these books? [[User:Garfieldcat1978|Garfieldcat1978]] ([[User talk:Garfieldcat1978|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Garfieldcat1978|contribs]]) 18:25, 20 February 2023 (UTC) Letting bot archive as needed. :Listing which works would be much better.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] ([[User talk:Jusjih|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jusjih|contribs]]) 22:51, 19 August 2023 (UTC) {{end closed}} == Redirects created by myself == I am proposing to undelete [[Cookbook:Dark chocolate chips]], [[Cookbook:Peanut butter]] and [[Cookbook:Food coloring]] because in my opinion I believe it is necessary due to the pipe trick. For example, I entered <code><nowiki>[[Cookbook:Food coloring|]]</nowiki></code>, which gives you [[Cookbook:Food coloring|Food coloring]], which is currently a red link, so I created this redirect to [[Cookbook:Food Coloring]]. What are your thoughts? [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 08:37, 5 December 2024 (UTC) :This is a good question! When I started out in the cookbook several years ago, I also created redirects like this. However, I was told at the time that Wikibooks does not use redirects in this way. I am open to further discussion about this, especially with the Cookbook, since it does not function like the other books on the project. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:44, 5 December 2024 (UTC) ::Wikibooks doesn't allow redirects in mainspace. However, as in [[Cookbook:Grunt Work]], redirects are allowed in Cookbook namespace. [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 16:07, 7 December 2024 (UTC) :::That's an interesting point. In terms of my personal opinion, I am currently neutral about redirects like this. I do think having these redirects can be helpful in some cases, especially given the wide range of terminologies used in cooking and the collaborative nature of the cookbook. However, excessive and unnecessary redirects (e.g. with all potential capitalization options) can create clutter. And, if I recall correctly, it's generally best practice to never link directly to redirect pages, instead linking to the correct end-page and subsection as appropriate. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 17:46, 7 December 2024 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]], @[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]], @[[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]]: pinging users since these users didn't participate this undeletion request in almost 2 weeks. [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 13:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] I don't get the relevance of the pipe trick with this. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 15:39, 17 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::I don't either. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 20:36, 17 December 2024 (UTC) ::::I'm not sure why it would be a problem to link directly to a redirect page. The wikitext doesn't care; the parser doesn't care. I'm not sure why anyone would create a rule against it. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhatamIdoing|contribs]]) 06:55, 18 December 2024 (UTC) :::::IMO I will have to concur with {{u|WhatamIdoing}} that it's a terrible rule, especially all the more that {{w|WP:CHEAP}} and makes these books more accessible (broken redirects can always be dealt with later); that still said I will say no to restoring these redirects until we get the policy changed. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 10:12, 18 December 2024 (UTC) :::::@[[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] I believe you were the one who originally told me about the avoidance of redirects at this project. Do you know what the original reasoning was? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:51, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::It's all down to books v articles. A book is supposed to be self-contained. So, a redirect from an alternative BOOK title to the actual book is okay - e.g., from "Fizzicks" to "Physics". But redirects that go to one page in a book are discouraged as it is creating a structure more like individual articles and creates pages that shouldn't exist. E.g., we don't have a standalone page called "Heat exchange", it's a subpage of Physics, Physics/Heat Exchange". Following the same philosophy you wouldn't have a redirect from "heat exchange" because things that aren't subpages should be books, and there is no book about heat exchange. Similarly, cross namespace redirects were discouraged (e.g., from mainspace to the cookbook space) as the cookbook is supposed to be one, very large, self contained book. Anyway, if I recall correctly, that was the theory. [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 14:15, 22 December 2024 (UTC) :::::::It sounds like they don't want [[Heat exchange]] to redirect to [[Physics/Heat exchange]], because someone might later want to write a whole book about Heat Exchange. :::::::That rationale has nothing to do with redirects for alternate (i.e., wrong) capitalization, which I believe is the question here. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhatamIdoing|contribs]]) 06:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC) :::::::Thank you for the information! I think my personal opinions regarding linking are as follows: :::::::* I agree with keeping books separate from each other and therefore agree that simple inter-book linking and inter-project linking should not be done within actual content pages. For example, if a book on philosophy used the word "physics" somewhere in the text, that word should not be wikilinked to [[Physics]]. Exceptions could be deliberate connections/references to another book (e.g. "see-also" or "further reading" chapters separate from the main content). :::::::* The cookbook has, for over a decade, been operating slightly differently from the other books in the project. It is its own subproject, which is reflected in the namespace and the way it uses categories. It is also a massive work that is continuously expanding through small additions by various contributors, and its pages are deeply interconnected with each other. Additionally, words for many of the concepts discussed in the cookbook have different names and are different in various cultures—redirects prevent incorrect linking and the creation of pages that already exist. For these reasons, I think it's okay to create redirects for its frequently-used subpages (e.g. ingredient/equipment/technique pages) that are often linked to in recipes. :::::::Cheers! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::::I agree. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhatamIdoing|contribs]]) 20:45, 23 December 2024 (UTC) :::::::::+2. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 06:10, 25 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::::Since there seems to be consensus here, I've codified this at [[Cookbook:Policy#Redirects]] —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Atlas Shrugged/Places]] == {{closed|1=Undeleted to undo the invalid reason to deletion--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] ([[User talk:Jusjih|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jusjih|contribs]]) 02:22, 1 May 2025 (UTC)}} This page was transwikied from the English Wikipedia after an [[w:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Places in Atlas Shrugged|AfD]], but unilaterally deleted by [[User:Hagindaz|Hagindaz]] on the grounds that it was an "out-of-date copy of [a] Wikipedia article." This is not a valid speedy deletion criterion, and there was no RfD. Additionally, the nonexistence of this page poses an obstacle in the process of removing all of the Wikipedia links in [[Atlas Shrugged]]. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 04:46, 22 December 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} = Deletion = {{shortcut|WB:RFD}} {{Requests for deletion/New deletion}} {{Requests for deletion/Deletion intro}} {{clear}} <!-- New nominations go at the bottom of page --> == Files from [[Illustrated Guide to the world of Spira (FFX and FFX-2)]] == {{closed|1=Deleted for lack of a valid NFCC. [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 15:34, 24 October 2024 (UTC)}} Used for decorative, not educational, purposes: [[:File:Float 13.jpg]], [[:File:Grabbed Frame 15.jpg]], [[:File:Gandof.jpg]], [[:File:Ohalland.jpg]], [[:File:Braskascan1.jpg]], [[:File:Tidus FFX.png]] ([[WB:NFCC]]#8). — Ирука<sup>[[user:Iruka13|13]]</sup> 13:54, 17 July 2023 (UTC) :Sure, I think I can agree on the removal of these [[User:2005-Fan|2005-Fan]] ([[User talk:2005-Fan|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/2005-Fan|contribs]]) 12:24, 22 July 2023 (UTC) {{end closed}} == Various pages in [[Basics of fine-art photography]] == {{closed|1=consensus to delete [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 15:38, 24 October 2024 (UTC)}} The following pages in [[Basics of fine-art photography]] seem out of scope because they consist entirely of personal promotion/advertisement for the author's photography: * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Egypt and Egyptians II]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Lights of Moscow]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Ethiopia through the eyes of traveler]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/On the roads of India]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/14 days in Mongolia]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Egypt and Egyptians III]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Hitchhiking across Sudan]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/January in Japan]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Uganda: tribes and civilization]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Tribes of Kenya]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Afghanistan, 2008]] —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 04:13, 25 February 2024 (UTC) :Frankly, the entire book appears to be a vehicle for the author to promote his own photography. The few sentences of instructional content on pages like [[Basics of fine-art photography/Creating works in macro photography]] are practically useless; that one amounts to "to take macro photos, set your camera to macro mode and hold it close to the subject, or read another book for more information". Other pages like [[Basics of fine-art photography/Interior photography in hobo tours]] or [[Basics of fine-art photography/Taking pictures of homeless people]] provide essentially no information on photography technique at all, and seem to mostly be intended as jumping-off points to showcase more of the author's photos. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 19:40, 11 March 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Half-Life Computation]] == Doesn't seem in-scope as a book—just seems like a single page on how to do a specific calculation. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:06, 5 April 2024 (UTC) * Keep -You have to consider also that projects can be merged (I have not checked if there is a possible match) in any case consider it a stub with valid content. It is a stub (November 2018) there is the problem of a namespace collision since it identifies as a specific topic (but as you identified is a very limited scope). Had I the time I would create a structure around it and contribute to it in the subject of Entropy or how our non-existing reality, is also "evaporating" into nothing... : Stubs are promoters to growth, like particles to rain... --[[User:Panic2k4|Panic]] ([[User talk:Panic2k4|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Panic2k4|contribs]]) 20:40, 7 November 2024 (UTC) * [[File:Symbol merge vote.svg|15px|alt=|link=]] '''Merge''' I agree this is not a book by itself, but lots of books have a section about how to calculate half-life stuff -- including some already on Wikibooks: [[A-level Physics (Advancing Physics)/Half-lives]], [[What You Should Know About Medicines/Half life, or how often to take it]], [[Basic Physics of Nuclear Medicine/The Radioactive Decay Law#Half-Life]], [[AP Chemistry/Nuclear Chemistry#Half Life]], [[A-level Physics/Forces, Fields and Energy/Radioactivity#Half-life]], [[A-level Mathematics/OCR/C3/Special Functions and Transformations#Example of Half-life decay]], [[Introduction to Radioisotope Geochronology/Part Two - Principles of Radioisotopic Dating#Decay Constants and Half Lives]], etc. Perhaps this is common enough that [[Half-Life Computation]] could be merged/moved into a page of [[Engineering Tables]] so that it could be shared across several Wikibooks, in the same way that the ASCII table in Engineering Tables is already shared across several Wikibooks. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] ([[User talk:DavidCary|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/DavidCary|contribs]]) 01:38, 13 February 2025 (UTC) == [[Kashubian Dictionary]] == [[WB:DICT|Out of scope]] here; material should be hosted at Wiktionary (I've [[Wiktionary:Wiktionary:Information desk/2024/May|suggested it there]]). —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC) :Any content in this dictionary should be already be at [[wiktionary:Wiktionary:Requested entries (Kashubian)/Kashubian Dictionary]], where we will be able to slowly make entries for these. [[User:Vininn126|Vininn126]] ([[User talk:Vininn126|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Vininn126|contribs]]) 21:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC) == [[Chinese Checkers]] == Extremely minimal content and abandoned for almost 20 years. Was previously nominated for deletion in 2006 but kept on the grounds that it could be expanded—clearly this has not happened. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:56, 11 July 2024 (UTC) == [[HP Open View NNM Exam Guide]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:36, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} One page only; abandoned >1 decade; little to no meaningful content; scope unclear —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:40, 21 July 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}}. [[w:HP OpenView|HP OpenView]] no longer exists as a product (and its successor HP Network Management Center has been discontinued as well!); neither does HP's certification exam for it. There's certainly no purpose in writing a new guide for a nonexistent exam for a obsolete product. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 19:54, 23 July 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Doom Modding]] == Abandoned >1 decade; main page only; very little content; unclear scope/path to completion —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:20, 28 July 2024 (UTC) == [[Global Illumination and HDRI Maps in 3D Studio Max]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:38, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} Abandoned >1 decade; one chapter only, which contains only a handful of sentences. Not enough content and no path for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:27, 28 July 2024 (UTC) *{{del}} per nom. The only subpage is this: [[Global Illumination and HDRI Maps in 3D Studio Max/HDRI Maps]]. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == Pages in [[Security+ Certification]] == Both [[Security+ Certification/Threats and Vulnerabilities]] and [[Security+ Certification/Network Security]] seem to be deprecated per @[[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]]'s recent overhaul; moreover, the pages in question seem to consist entirely of outlinks to Wikipedia. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:32, 3 August 2024 (UTC) == Obsolete Microsoft certification guides == * [[MCSE Server 2003 Certification Core Exams]] (exam 70-290 retired July 2013) * [[Microsoft Certified IT Professional]] (exam 70-444 retired June 2011; exam 70-450 retired July 2015) * [[Microsoft Certified Professional Developer]] (exams 70-526, 70-528, 70-529, 70-547, 70-548 retired June 2011; exams 70-290, 70-536 retired July 2013) These books all correspond to Microsoft certification exams which were retired in 2011-2015, and consist almost entirely of lists of course objectives copied from official course materials. There's almost no original educational content in any of these three books, and it's highly unlikely that they're going to be improved, since the certification exams they correspond to are no longer offered. (Reference for the exam retirement dates is: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/credentials/support/retired-certification-exams) [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 00:27, 4 August 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} per the above; additionally, some of these have very little content at all. Some pages may be candidates for speedy deletion. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:38, 4 August 2024 (UTC) == [[IB Textbook Reviews]] == Very little meaningful educational content; seems like opinion at most? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:45, 4 August 2024 (UTC) == [[Kurdish]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:38, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} Very little content at all, no outline or potential for development; abandoned for years. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:46, 4 August 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:49, 17 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[English-Arabic dictionary]] == Out of scope at Wikibooks since this is already completely covered by Wiktionary. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:49, 4 August 2024 (UTC) :{{comment}} [[English-Arabic dictionary/Colors in Arabic]] gets a nontrivial amount of traffic (~50 views/day). It'd be nice if we could at least preserve this as a redirect to an equivalent resource. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:38, 4 August 2024 (UTC) * '''Keep''': a book selecting vocabulary into introductory groups is very different from a lexical database such as Wiktionary. In Wiktionary, one does not know where to start learning the vocabulary. Admittedly, the title gives excessively broad scope, so something should probably be done. (The argument with 50 views/day has some force.) --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:48, 17 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Valgrind]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:39, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} Abandoned >1 decade; main page only; very little content; unclear scope; no path forward for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:52, 17 August 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - readers would be much better off with [https://valgrind.org/docs/manual/quick-start.html Valgrind's own quick start guide] (which is even freely licensed). [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 17:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Programming for the consultant]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:40, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} Abandoned >1 decade; little to no meaningful content; no plan for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:42, 24 August 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom. The only subpage: [[Programming for the consultant/Approaching A New Code Base]]. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:24, 17 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Metroid]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:40, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} Abandoned; main page only; no meaningful content; no plan for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:44, 24 August 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom; could be speedy. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:00, 17 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Radiata Stories]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:40, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} Abandoned; little to no meaningful content; one page only with little content; no path for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:46, 24 August 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom. The one existing subpage is [[Radiata Stories/Character Recruitment]]. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:23, 17 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Dialect]] == Scope unclear; abandoned with no plan for development; little to no meaningful content; most pages qualify for speedy anyway. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:18, 5 September 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Programming Text Adventures In Basic]] == Main page only; abandoned >1 decade; little meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:17, 7 September 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom, but I think a change of [[Wikibooks:Deletion policy]] is needed so that we can delete useless stubs abandoned for a long time. The nominated page cannot be of any use as is. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 05:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC) == [[UNIX Basics]] == Abandoned >1 decade; little to no meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:23, 7 September 2024 (UTC) * {{del}}: no meaningful content. A bit of meaningful content is in [[Guide to Unix]]. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 05:53, 17 October 2024 (UTC) == [[How to Write a Compiler]] == Abandoned >1 decade; main page only; little meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:24, 7 September 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom: almost no meaningful content. No further reading. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 05:54, 17 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Script Languages Synopsis]] == Abandoned >1 decade; little content; unclear path for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:26, 7 September 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 05:55, 17 October 2024 (UTC) =={{anchor|Network+ Certification}}{{anchor|Security+ Certification}}{{anchor|A+ Certification}} CompTIA Certifications == [[Network+ Certification]] moved and updated at [[:v:Network+|Wikiversity]]. [[Security+ Certification]] moved and updated at [[:v:Security+ Certification|Wikiversity]]. [[A+ Certification]] moved and updated at [[:v:A+ Certification|Wikiversity]]. De-duplicating work across Wikimedia. Subpages should all be deleted as well. Might be worth leaving a redirect to WV for future users. [[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tule-hog|contribs]]) 21:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC) :I centralized at Wikiversity since the projects (as of now) are compendiums of links and resources based on the listed objectives of each exam, sometimes with explicitly suggested 'activities'. Very little in the way of 'book'-like exposition. [[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tule-hog|contribs]]) 21:06, 15 September 2024 (UTC) :Thought about leaving a {{tlx|MovedToWikiversity}} but that template has been deleted in the past. [[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tule-hog|contribs]]) 02:52, 3 October 2024 (UTC) ::If all the content has indeed moved over to Wikiversity, I'm not sure we need to keep these here, especially given their quality. Cheers –[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:18, 12 November 2024 (UTC) == Wikiversal generated pages == * [[Wiki Assistant]] * [[User Page Builder]] *: Inexplicably, the links on the main page of this book all point to pages under [[:w:User:Hazel45onnie/User Page Builder]] '''on the English Wikipedia'''. I'm nominating those pages for deletion on enwiki as a separate process ([[:w:Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikiversuite pages|here]]). * [[WikiverSuite/Wikiversant/Gunport Builder Demo 1]] * [[Wiki Tutorial]] *: Some of the internal links in this book are written as if the book is named [[Tutorial]] instead of [[Wiki Tutorial]]. You may have to use [[Special:Prefixindex/Wiki Tutorial]] to read through the whole thing. These books were all generated using Wikiversal, a third-party wiki editing tool written by [[User:Planotse]] which is no longer downloadable. Many of them contain broken internal links or other outdated content (like references to Wikiversity being a subproject of Wikibooks), and the HTML-heavy markup generated by Wikiversal makes them unreasonably difficult to edit. (As as aside, the markup used for these "presentations" is completely broken on the mobile site, e.g. [https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/User_Page_Builder]. For some reason, the forward/back buttons are invisible, making it impossible to navigate from page to page.) The first three books are all instructions on how to use Wikiversal itself. Since it's no longer available, they are of no use. The fourth, while described as a "Wiki tutorial", primarily instructs users to use Wikiversal to build pages on the wiki; its main page should probably be redirected to [[Using Wikibooks]] as a much more comprehensive resource. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 02:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC) ::It isn't inexplicable that these pages and links are on the English Wikipedia. The spammers who developed these pages were primarily trying to peddle software for use on the English Wikipedia. Their pages on the English Wikipedia are also pending deletion as misusing Wikipedia for web hosting. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Robert McClenon|contribs]]) 18:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC) :::Based on the name and some of the user's (now deleted) activity on Wikiversity, I think the software was actually intended primarily for use on Wikibooks and/or Wikiversity. Why they decided to host some of its documentation on Wikipedia is a mystery. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 18:52, 22 September 2024 (UTC) ::::It isn't worth trying to explain the behavior of spammers. Sometimes the explanation is stupidity and greed. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Robert McClenon|contribs]]) 23:05, 22 September 2024 (UTC) ::<del>I haven't yet looked at the deletion request here. I am primarily an English Wikipedia editor, just as [[User:Omphalographer]] is primarily a Commons editor. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Robert McClenon|contribs]]) 18:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC)</del> *'''Delete All''' - Spam. These books were created twelve years ago to peddle software to new users. This was an abuse of Wikimedia for commercial purposes. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Robert McClenon|contribs]]) 18:51, 22 September 2024 (UTC) == [[PlanoTse Handbook for Job Search Automation]] == Much like the Wikiversal pages nominated above, this book is documentation for a piece of self-authored software by [[User:Planotse]] which is no longer available for download. I can't find any substantial references to this software anywhere online outside of this book itself, so it seems highly unlikely to be useful to anyone. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 02:49, 20 September 2024 (UTC) :[[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' per the above. If the software is not currently available and was never widely available or notable previously, I don't see why keeping it is useful, even for historicity. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:36, 20 September 2024 (UTC) *'''Delete''' - This is more spam by a spammer. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Robert McClenon|contribs]]) 23:17, 22 September 2024 (UTC) == [[Salute, Jonathan!]] and its translations == : [[Alo, Jonathan!]] : [[Bune Ğonatan!]] : [[Dag, Jonathan!]] : [[Glidis, o Jonathan!]] : [[Hai, Jon!]] : [[Hallo, Jonathan!]] : [[Haloo, Jonatan!]] : [[Hay, Jonathan!]] : [[Hej, Jonathan! (Germanisch)]] : [[Hej, Jonathan!]] : [[Hela, Jonathan!]] : [[Holo, Jonathan!]] : [[Oila, Jonatan!]] : [[Salam, Jonathan!]] : [[Salom, Jonatan!]] : [[Salu, Jon!]] : [[Salut Jonathan!]] : [[Salute, Jonathan!]] : [[Salut, Jonathan! (Interocidental)]] : [[Salut, Jonathan!]] : [[Salut, ionatano!]] : [[Salute, Jonathan! (Novlingue)]] : [[Salute, Jonathan! (Romanica)]] : [[Saluto, Jonathan! (Ido)]] : [[Saluto, Jonathan!]] : [[Sesan Jon!]] : [[Simi, Jonathan!]] : [[Sin Chao, Jonathan!]] : [[Terve, Jonathan!]] : [[Toki a, jan Jonatan!]] : [[Àlŏ, Jonathan!]] : [[Òla, Ionatà!]] There are a couple of issues here: # Beyond their introductions, all of these books are written in languages which are not English, making them out of scope for the English Wikibooks. # All but one of these books are in fact written in constructed languages, most of them in recently created conlangs. In some cases (e.g. [[Sin Chao, Jonathan!]]), I can't find any reliable sources describing the target language outside of the translation itself. # Most of the translations (i.e. other than [[Salute, Jonathan!]] itself) were abandoned within the first five or so chapters (out of 100); none of them are complete, and there seems to be little effort to complete any of them. While I recognize that this is an unusual project, and potentially one which could have some value, it's not at all clear to me that the English Wikibooks is the right place for it. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 00:24, 29 September 2024 (UTC) :I'm really not sure what to do about these ones. While I recognize that this approach is certainly one method of teaching a language, I'm not sure that it constitutes an educational textbook. We do require that the English Wikibooks be written in English—for language-learning books, this typically means that the instructional parts are in English while the exercises are in the language being taught. I do think that if the language doesn't have much supporting evidence outside the book itself, it can safely be deleted. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:01, 29 September 2024 (UTC) :Author of the book here. I originally wanted to put it in the Interlingue Wikibooks https://ie.wikibooks.org/wiki/Principal_p%C3%A1gine but it somehow got locked when I wasn't paying attention and so I ended up putting it here. Getting it unlocked requires going through the process of starting an Incubator and all the rest so I opted for here and then started putting some English-only content once it was done. It's sort of in the same vein as books like Lingua Latina per se Illustrata that have separate versions with teacher notes and whatnot. [[Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 1 - with notes]] After it was done the auxlang community really took to it which was a nice surprise. I think Ido has the largest number of chapters at the moment at 15. :If the vast content of this book could be used to justify a quick reopening of the Interlingue Wikibooks to move it there, I'd love to do that. I imagine that an incubator with 100+ book chapters would be enough to open a Wikibooks and that's what this is. :[[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 06:02, 29 September 2024 (UTC) :Ah, I just realized that we do have a proposal to reopen the Interlingue Wikibooks: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikibooks_Interlingue along with an Incubator page here. https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wb/ie/Principal_p%C3%A1gine :How easy would it be to migrate the entirety of Salute Jonathan to there? [[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 06:30, 29 September 2024 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]]! I'm not sure how incubator projects work, but I fully support migrating these books there. You may want to inquire over there and link to this discussion to support your request to move the content over there. Cheers! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:16, 29 September 2024 (UTC) :::Hi! :::Actually I have a third idea to propose after thinking about this again today (haven't been here much since I finished the book): I noticed that there is more English content than I remember and that might make it an awkward fit for the Interlingue Wikibooks. I definitely agree that having all the auxlang translations for new auxlang projects goes well beyond the scope of this Wikibooks. Finally, there are some auxlangs that are notable with their own Wikipedias. :::So the idea is the following: :::1 Leave the original here and I can continue the work on the version with English notes and grammar. That will make it the same as Lingua Latina per se Illustrata, English by the Nature Method, Athenaze and all the rest. :::2 The Interlingua one can move to the Interlingua Wikibooks (maybe Romanica too if they want as it is sort of a dialect of Interlingua). :::3 For Ido and Lingua Franca Nova which have a Wikipedia but not a Wikibooks, I'm a little bit unsure...technically they could have their own version like the original one but would require English explanations. I could let them know and see if they are willing to do so and see what they think (work on adding English to the books vs. move the content elsewhere). :::4 The rest can move to a Github repo, then be deleted, and the front page of this book can have a single link to the repo. :::Any thoughts on that? Adding the extra English content will be easy as it is my book and I know it inside and out. Edit: [https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Salute,_Jonathan!/Grammar_(pronouns) this page] I just added. :::[[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 13:50, 29 September 2024 (UTC) ::::Thanks for taking the time to consider this! Here are my responses/questions: ::::* Is the original [[Salute, Jonathan!]] (Occidental)? Since that one is quite fleshed out, I agree that if you edit it so the primary language of the book (e.g. headers, instructions, etc) are written in English while leaving the actual story in Occidental, it would be okay and fit in more with instructional language textbooks. ::::* For your points 2 and 3, I'm not sure how those other projects work, so I'll leave it up to them. I'm not quite sure why they would need to move, since in theory they could be revised with English as the language of instruction? Although, they have been left incomplete for a long time. ::::* For your point 4, I have no problem with that. ::::Cheers! –[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:51, 29 September 2024 (UTC) :::::Hello again, :::::It's the weekend so I have a bit more time to work on this. I've decided to merge the extra content from the following five chapters since the difference is fairly small and the original chapters should now have this English content. Could you delete these five pages now that they are no longer needed? [[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 14:02, 5 October 2024 (UTC) :::::[[Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 1 - with notes]] :::::[[Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 2 - with notes]] :::::[[Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 3 - with notes]] :::::[[Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 4 - with notes]] :::::[[Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 5 - with notes]] [[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 14:02, 5 October 2024 (UTC) ::::::[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Done'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:34, 5 October 2024 (UTC) :::::::Hi again! No luck trying to find a home for the random language translations on other auxlang wikis, can't find one that is actively maintained. :::::::The thought struck me that maybe I could just put those ones on a sub page of my user page, would that be permitted? If not, I think I'll just stick them somewhere in GitHub and call it a day since none of the people who started the translations seem to care enough to do anything about them. I'd rather not see them outright disappear but since they aren't mine I don't care enough about them to do much more work than copy and paste them somewhere. :::::::(I would leave the ones in languages with an ISO-639 code and Wikipedia here, of course) :::::::[[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 14:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC) ::::::::Thank you for checking! I don't personally see an issue with moving them to your user space right now. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 17:21, 9 November 2024 (UTC) :::::::::Thanks a lot! I've started a single page where I will put them all here [[User:Mithridates/SJ]] and will proceed slowly due to lack of time and also to avoid stepping on any toes / asking you to delete too much at a time and possibly deleting the wrong content. :::::::::For this week I have put the content for the languages Audia, Cristianès, Guosa, Lingaust, Mini, Mirad, and Monav on that page as they all have a single page of content and didn't take much time to move. Please delete those. Once they are gone I will add a note on the main page letting people know where they have gone (in addition to a thank you for their interest in the book! I do love how many people have recognized it as a good source material for teaching a language). [[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 04:09, 10 November 2024 (UTC) :{{Keep}} the translations for languages that have an article on the English Wikipedia, i.e. Guosa, Idiom Neutral, Ido, Interlingua, Lingwa de Planeta, Negerhollands, Neo, Novial, Occidental, Romanica, Solresol, Toki Pona, and Volapük. :Translations for languages that don't have an article can be kept if they have reliable sources, which I was able to find for the following languages (if you think they are not reliable, please let me know): :* Globasa: [https://www.languagesandnumbers.com/how-to-count-in-globasa/en/globasa/] [https://greyson.conlang.org/2020/01/29/shouting-out-globasa-and-pandunia/] :* Mini: [https://jprogr.github.io/mini] [https://www.omniglot.com/language/phrases/mini.htm] [https://www.languagesandnumbers.com/how-to-count-in-mini/en/mini/] :{{Del}} and move to [[User:Mithridates/SJ]] the rest of the translations, i.e. Audià/Audian, Cristianés, Ekumenski, Germanisch, Interocidental, Lingaust, Lingue Simple, Masa Tang, Mirad, Monav, Monkel, Mundeze, Nordien, Novlingue, Numo, Proyo, and Scuian/Meteza. If you can find reliable sources for those languages, please let me know. :In particular, I could not find resources for Audià/Audian and Monav after searching through 15 and 17 pages on Google, respectively. It doesn't help that [[Òla, Ionatà!|their]] [[Hai, Jon!|translations]] don't explain what those languages are and where to find resources for them. This makes contributing to those translations almost impossible until @[[User:Caro de Segeda|Caro de Segeda]] can provide resources to us. It's possible that the resources may have disappared from the Internet, or that those languages were created by Caro de Segeda him/herself. If you can find resources for Audià/Audian and Monav, please let me know. :I'm notifying the primary contributors of the translations: @[[User:Caro de Segeda|Caro de Segeda]], @[[User:Frzzl|Frzzl]], @[[User:Greatscotteh|Greatscotteh]], @[[User:IHateNumbers234|IHateNumbers234]], @[[User:Jayeless2|Jayeless2]], @[[User:Morozof|Morozof]], @[[User:Omnihom|Omnihom]], @[[User:Omoutuazn|Omoutuazn]], @[[User:PovriNaivon|PovriNaivon]], @[[User:Sir Beluga|Sir Beluga]] and @[[User:Tyoyafud|Tyoyafud]]. [[User:EJPPhilippines|EJPPhilippines]] ([[User talk:EJPPhilippines|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/EJPPhilippines|contribs]]) 09:52, 30 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Wooden Boats: Building and Repair]] == Abandoned almost 2 decades; a few pages, but each has only a few lines of text. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:46, 7 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Stellar Scintillation]] == Extremely narrow scope that I don't think is quite book-worthy, especially given the low amount of content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC) == [[IB Spanish]] == Abandoned 2 decades; seems like an idea for a book that was never actually implemented (minimal meaningful content) —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:55, 7 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Competitive Programming]] == Survived deletion previously on the justification that it could potentially be expanded, but it's since been over a decade with no improvement; extremely minimal educational content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:03, 7 October 2024 (UTC) == Pages by [[User:TheoYalur]] == {{closed| closed complete —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)}} * [[Henri Poincaré Reader]] * [[The Sight and Sound of the Greek Genocide Around the Kültürpark in Izmir]] * [[God Disorder]] These pages all appear to be personal essays, not educational texts. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 03:53, 14 October 2024 (UTC) :They are all original research. The editor asked to be unblocked so they could move to Wikiversity where OR is permitted. As they have now returned to creating these dubious pages, I have blocked them again and deleted the most recent creation as out of scope original research. The "reader" might be acceptable. [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 12:37, 14 October 2024 (UTC) ::Thanks @[[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]]! I'm not sure about [[Henri Poincaré Reader]] since it has NPOV issues and it reads like a self-published essay piece with personal hypothesizing/opinion/research, no references, etc. Its educational scope is still somewhat unclear, as is the structure—it does not seem textbook-like in form or style. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 15:43, 14 October 2024 (UTC) :::You spent more time reading it than me I suspect. I only skimmed it, but I am sure you are right that it has the same issues as the other creations and should be deleted. [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 16:14, 14 October 2024 (UTC) ::::With regard to the "Reader", at best it's a collection of loosely translated excerpts of texts which, for the most part, already have quality translations available on Wikisource. For instance, the section [[Henri Poincaré Reader#The Measure of Time (1898)]] is already translated as [[:s:The Foundations of Science/The Value of Science/Chapter 2]]. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 20:39, 14 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[User:גני טווילרי]] == {{closed| closed complete —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)}} Please delete a redirection page of the former user page, which was not active in the En Wikibooks. Thank you. [[User:לובר|לובר]] ([[User talk:לובר|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/לובר|contribs]]) 02:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC) :{{re|לובר}} {{done}} though in the future please use {{tl|speedy}} for such deletions. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 10:53, 16 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Cyber Guide to ODU Career Management]] == As best I can tell, this was intended at one point to be an internal resource for employees of an ODU (Old Dominion University) career office; what little of it exists is primarily focused on minutae irrelevant to anyone outside that office, like [[Cyber Guide to ODU Career Management/Get Oriented/How we do it|who to email to schedule an information session]] or a collection of [[Cyber Guide to ODU Career Management/Get Up-to-Date/CAP Meeting|meeting notes]]. It's also all been essentially untouched since 2007. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 18:49, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :[[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' per stated reasoning —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:11, 18 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Golf]] == Extremely minimal content; educational/book scope is unclear; abandoned for >1 decade. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:15, 18 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Counterterror Joint Command]] == {{closed|Deleted. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 03:01, 20 June 2025 (UTC)}} Unclear how this falls into WB scope—doesn't seem to be an educational book, and educational scope is undefined; abandoned as well —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:17, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - this is perplexing; it's written like a policy proposal on behalf of an agency, not a textbook. From context I ''think'' it's about the [[:w:National Police Agency (Taiwan)]], but it's entirely unclear whether this was intended as an official report or some sort of weird fan fiction. Either way, it doesn't belong here. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 19:31, 18 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Flight Attendant Manual]] == Abandoned almost 2 decades; consists only of a list of country codes and the phonetic alphabet. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:19, 18 October 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:58, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[History of the ODU Art Department]] == A collection of fragmentary biographies and interviews of members of the ODU (Old Dominion University) art department. Some of these are individually interesting, I guess, but they don't really add up to a history of the department, let alone to an instructional text. Most editing activity appears to have been around 2008-09; there's almost no activity since then. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 19:22, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :{{comment}} I have to agree here. And, issues with the book's suitability for inclusion here have been raised on the talk page since its beginning. I'm concerned that this ultimately violates [[WB:WIW]], and I can't see it being properly developed at this point. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:46, 21 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Understanding the National Certificate of Educational Achievement]] == Scope unclear; very little content; abandoned >1 decade —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:30, 18 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Release Management]] == Abandoned almost 2 decades; very little content; unclear what its scope as a book is —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:11, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - release management is a potentially worthy topic, but this isn't useful even as a starting point. The landscape has changed quite a bit in the last 20 years. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 16:31, 24 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Management for IT Professionals]] == Minimal content; book scope unclear; abandoned almost 2 decades —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:13, 18 October 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:57, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Living in Bangkok]] == Minimal content; consists of single chapter that contains likely outdated information —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:14, 18 October 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:57, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Limburgish]] == Abandoned; single chapter with minimal content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:19, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :In general, I think deletion not solve anything. While the contents is minimal, it's still better than nothing at all. Rather, an invitation should be made to expand on it. --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|Ooswesthoesbes]] ([[User talk:Ooswesthoesbes|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ooswesthoesbes|contribs]]) 06:27, 19 October 2024 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|Ooswesthoesbes]]! While I understand your perspective, I unfortunately disagree. Wikibooks has a huge number of abandoned stubs like this one, which I think results in clutter and makes the entire project less useful as a result. Due to their nature and structure, books require a greater committed investment to make than, say, WP articles, and these little scraps are rarely developed here. This book has had plenty of opportunity for expansion since you started it over a decade ago, but nobody has actually made any effort to do so. Based on the evidence from the past decade, when weighing the likelihood of the book being properly developed going forward versus the active negative impact of its continued presence in this state, I favor deletion. Moreover, in the rare case that someone came along later and wanted to revive this book specifically, it could be undeleted. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Introduction to BASIC]] == Consists only of a few paragraphs and then a compilation of links —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:22, 18 October 2024 (UTC) == [[International Baccalaureate]] == Not actually a book in and of itself; rather, it is just a compilation of links to other books —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:24, 18 October 2024 (UTC) : Could this be salvaged as a shelf? [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 05:23, 27 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Basketball]] == Abandoned almost 2 decades; doesn't contain much beyond what you'd find in a WP article —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:41, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :I love the game, but yes, this has no real content. That said, there's little danger in keeping it and it could plausibly be improved, so I'm '''weak keep'''. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 22:33, 3 November 2024 (UTC) *{{vd}} We can't just rely on [[User:Someone Else]] to come – and on a project as small as this, that [[User:Someone Else]] is more or less never likely to come. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 10:33, 24 November 2024 (UTC) == [[Bug Free Programming]] == Unclear how exactly this constitutes an educational book; scope is unclear —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:45, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :Wow, I didn't even remember this one. I think it's perfectly clear how this is educational and the scope couldn't be clearer, either, but I'm not going to finish it so go ahead and delete it. [[User:Főszerkesztő Úr|Főszerkesztő Úr]] ([[User talk:Főszerkesztő Úr|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Főszerkesztő Úr|contribs]]) 12:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Character List for Baxter&Sagart]] == Seems completely out of scope as an educational book; it's just a list of characters and outlinks —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :Adding [[Character List for Karlgren's GSR]] and [[Character List for Schuessler's CGSR]] for the same reason —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:55, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :These three books do make a package and I agree they should be considered together. However, I strongly object to deleting them. They are really extremely useful resources. I use them every week and I know that many people who do work on Old Chinese phonology do so. There are lots of books out there that are lists of characters, these are called dictionaries. For example Axel Schuessler's ABC Etymological Dictionary of Old Chinese, or Pulleyblank's Lexicon of Reconstructed Pronunciation in Early Middle Chinese, Late Middle Chinese, and Early Mandarin. I see it as entirely a good thing for reference works of this kind to be available free online rather than only in expensive books in university research libraries. If this is in violation of a Wikibooks policy, I would at least like that policy to be drawn to my attention and to have some constructive comment offered about which Wikiproject such a resource should fall under. I will also say on a personal note that I have put literally hundreds of hours of work into these projects and it would grieve me a lot to see this work simply vanish, in particular when I know that colleagues around the world use these books. --[[User:Tibetologist|Tibetologist]] ([[User talk:Tibetologist|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tibetologist|contribs]]) 07:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Tibetologist|Tibetologist]], and thank you for the feedback! Official Wikibooks policy does not permit standalone dictionaries (see [[WB:DICT]]), though I understand the argument that it is a useful resource. I am wondering if there might be a home for it at [[Wiktionary:Wiktionary:Welcome, newcomers|Wiktionary]] or [[Wikiversity:Wikiversity:SHARE|Wikiversity]]? Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:14, 1 November 2024 (UTC) :::The policy says to use Wiktionary, but these books cannot be moved there. In fact they link there, you can understand me as having made an index to wiktionary, if you like, where the ORDER of the characters is extremely important, information that would be lost in Wiktionary. :::Wikiversity is not a project I participate in, and in any event my books here are older than it, so this option was not available for me at the relevant moment. If you are offering to move my books to Wikiversity, that is very kind of you and I will very graciously accept. [[User:Tibetologist|Tibetologist]] ([[User talk:Tibetologist|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tibetologist|contribs]]) 14:10, 1 November 2024 (UTC) ::::I have pinged over at Wikiversity Colloquium to ask about suitability and have looped you into the conversation over there. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:20, 1 November 2024 (UTC) :Per [[:v:Wikiversity:Colloquium#Import_Resource_From_Wikibooks?]], I recommend copying and pasting, including attribution via the edit summary and talk page, add appropriate categories and links, and then it could be deleted locally. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 22:32, 3 November 2024 (UTC) == [[Citroën XM]] == Abandoned >1 decade; very minimal content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:57, 18 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Happiness]] == Significant NPOV issues; not much content; abandoned for >1 decade —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:58, 18 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Islamic Studies Grade 1]] == Abandoned >1 decade with very little content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:03, 19 October 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - the table of contents makes it clear that this book was intended to house POV religious content (e.g. a chapter titled "Allah Is The One"). This is incompatible with [[WB:NPOV]]. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 01:12, 20 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Suomen kieli käyttöön]] == Multiple pages in this book are written entirely in Finnish, which is out of the enWB scope. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:09, 19 October 2024 (UTC) :I was going to say whether we should ask any fiwikibooks sysop to maybe see if this could be transwikied to fiwb if it's within the scope there. But [[:fi:Toiminnot:Käyttäjät/sysop]] indicates that there are only 3 sysops, and only {{u|Anr}} and {{u|Zache}} have made edits this ''year''. If they deem it to be salvageable, then transwiki + delete, otherwise straight-up delete. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 11:24, 14 November 2024 (UTC) ::It seems that the idea behind the book was for the pages to be bilingual, as it’s a language learning book. That’s why there are Finnish texts included intentionally even on the pages that are complete. There are similar books in dewikibooks and ruwikibooks as well. For the English version, I think the easiest way to proceed would be to clean up and adjust the page layout to fit enwikibooks better, and then translate the missing parts. By the way, if anyone wants to update the book’s name in English, it can be titled ''"Using the Finnish Language"'' or ''"Put Finnish Language into Use"'' for a direct translation. [[User:Zache|Zache]] ([[User talk:Zache|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zache|contribs]]) 11:57, 14 November 2024 (UTC) == Several pages in [[Hobo tourism]] and [[Hobo travel journalism]] == The following pages are entirely self-promotional content that is suitable for a blog but not WB (same contributor made the [[Wikibooks:Requests for deletion#Various pages in Basics of fine-art photography|now-deleted pages from above]]). * [[Hobo tourism/Third creative trip of Viktor Pinchuk to Africa]] * [[Hobo tourism/Third African trip]] * [[Hobo tourism/Visiting Death]] * [[Hobo tourism/One day in an Afghan prison]] * [[Hobo tourism/Around the world with empty pockets]] * [[Hobo tourism/Indian dreams]] * [[Hobo tourism/Two months of wandering and 14 days behind bars]] * [[Hobo tourism/Holiday of wandering mzungu]] * [[Hobo tourism/Afghan prisoner]] * [[Hobo tourism/Two hundred days in Latin America]] * [[Hobo tourism/Mongolian huyvaldagch]] * [[Hobo tourism/Six months by islands... and countries]] * [[Hobo tourism/Viktor Pinchuk's expedition to the Islands of Oceania]] * [[Hobo tourism/Viktor Pinchuk's solo expedition to Africa (2017/18)]] * [[Hobo tourism/Latin American expedition of Viktor Pinchuk]] * [[Hobo tourism/Bum tour of winter Japan]] * [[Hobo tourism/Afghan Expedition of Viktor Pinchuk]] * [[Hobo tourism/Second creative trip of Viktor Pinchuk to Africa]] * [[Hobo tourism/Creative trip to Mongolia]] * [[Hobo tourism/Creative trip to India]] * [[Hobo tourism/First creative trip of Viktor Pinchuk to Africa]] * [[Hobo tourism/Tropical fever in the bum tour (an example from practice)]] * [[Hobo tourism/African Robbery]] * [[Hobo travel journalism/With a backpack around the planet (rubric in the newspaper “Southern Capital”)]] * [[Hobo travel journalism/Returning from distant wanderings (rubric in the newspaper "Republic of Crimea")]] * [[Hobo travel journalism/Wind of wanderings (rubric in the newspaper "Crimean Time")]] * [[Hobo travel journalism/Around the World (rubric in the newspaper "Crimean Observer")]] * [[Hobo travel journalism/Travel notes (rubric in the ProX magazine)]] —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:01, 24 October 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - I would support deleting the entire book, not just these chapters. Even aside from the self-promotional content listed above, other chapters give some ''extremely questionable'' advice on sleeping arrangements, such as: :* Trespassing on private property ([[Hobo tourism/Overnight stays in long intercontinental journeys/In halls and stairwells]]; [[Hobo tourism/Overnight stays in long intercontinental journeys/On objects under construction]]) :* Sleeping inside archaeological sites ([[Hobo tourism/Overnight stays in long intercontinental journeys/In the ancient pyramid]]) :* Harassing locals if they don't let you into their house ([[Hobo tourism/Overnight stays in long intercontinental journeys/In Aboriginal dwellings]] - "independently knock on any dwelling, asking for a place under a canopy in the yard; with a negative result, repeating the action repeatedly") :[[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 04:45, 25 October 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} Agree with above. Delete all.--[[User:Xania|Xania]] [[Image:Flag_of_Estonia.svg|15px]] [[Image:Flag_of_Ukraine.svg|15px]] [[User talk:Xania|<sup>talk</sup>]] 03:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC) ::These articles have many internal links from English-language Wikinews. Removing the material would harm the news articles and the project as a whole. — [[User:Виктор Пинчук|Виктор Пинчук]] ([[User talk:Виктор Пинчук|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Виктор Пинчук|contribs]]) 15:55, 10 November 2024 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:Виктор Пинчук|Виктор Пинчук]]—while I understand your concern, I'm fairly certain that being linked to is not an acceptable justification in policy or otherwise for content that is inappropriate for Wikibooks in the first place. If that were the case, vandalism or other inappropriate material could be kept simply because it is linked to somewhere else. If consensus says that these pages don't belong at Wikibooks due to the unsuitability of the content, I think that decision will stand independently. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 17:28, 10 November 2024 (UTC) :::Vandalism is a harmful and unproductive change for the project. But what is reviewed by administrators (precisely administrators, not one administrator) of English-language news cannot be compared to vandalism. Such an example is inappropriate. — [[User:Виктор Пинчук|Виктор Пинчук]] ([[User talk:Виктор Пинчук|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Виктор Пинчук|contribs]]) 19:11, 10 November 2024 (UTC) :::Then that is an issue which Wikinews can deal with. Wikibooks is its own project, and can make its own decisions about the suitability of content. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:06, 10 November 2024 (UTC) ::::Wikibooks is harming Wikinews, and that's its problem. Well, that's fine. <br>However, I want to say that any paper textbook can be supplemented with optional material containing examples on the topic from the author's personal practice. It can be published as a separate brochure or included in a paper textbook. Who wants to — reads, does not want — does not read.They probably haven't heard about it in the English section...— [[User:Виктор Пинчук|Виктор Пинчук]] ([[User talk:Виктор Пинчук|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Виктор Пинчук|contribs]]) 16:32, 12 November 2024 (UTC) ::::: Это живой и рабочий проект, Виктор. И вы разговариваете с двумя администраторами. Ваши самопиарки поудаляют вскорости, смиритесь. — Ирука<sup>[[user:Iruka13|13]]</sup> 19:45, 12 November 2024 (UTC) : {{vd}} I put [[:ru:wb:К_удалению/Июль_2023#статьи_из_Категория:Книги_русского_путешественника_Виктора_Пинчука_--|half of these articles on ruBooks for deletion a year ago]]. Alas, ruBooks are more dead than alive. — Ирука<sup>[[user:Iruka13|13]]</sup> 19:45, 12 November 2024 (UTC) == files from Phoenix Wright == Used for decorative, not educational, purposes ([[WB:NFCC]]#8): [[:File:AAIME Official Artwork.jpg]], [[:File:PWAAJFA episode1.png]], [[:File:PW JFA Official Artwork.jpg]], [[:File:Gyakuten Kenji 2 Official Artwork.png]], [[:File:AJ officialart.jpg]], [[:File:PW T&T Official Artwork.jpg]], [[:File:SMB2 dream staircase art.jpg]]. Galleries ([[WB:NFCC]]#3): [[:File:Moonflow 27.jpg]], [[:File:Macalania 18.jpg]], [[:File:Chauncey LM.jpg]] , [[:File:King Boo LM.jpg]], [[:File:Boolossus LM.jpg]]. — Ирука<sup>[[user:Iruka13|13]]</sup> 16:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC) :My thoughts below: :* [[:File:AAIME Official Artwork.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:PWAAJFA episode1.png]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:PW JFA Official Artwork.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:Gyakuten Kenji 2 Official Artwork.png]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:AJ officialart.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:PW T&T Official Artwork.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:SMB2 dream staircase art.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:Moonflow 27.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Keep''' low resolution and seems to be illustrating something :* [[:File:Macalania 18.jpg]] Uncertain :* [[:File:Chauncey LM.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Keep''' seems to be actually illustrating something :* [[:File:King Boo LM.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Keep''' seems to be actually illustrating something :* [[:File:Boolossus LM.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Keep''' seems to be actually illustrating something :Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:12, 30 October 2024 (UTC) == [[A Summary of Theology and Thought in Messianic Judaism]] == Abandoned >1 decade; little to no meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:25, 13 November 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:55, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[SEAWORLD CHRISTMAS CELEBRATION 2021-PRESENT]] == {{closed| closed complete —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:37, 24 December 2024 (UTC)}} CSD contested by author twice--reasons given were "Test page" and "No useful content." Courtesy pings: {{u|Xeverything11}}, {{u|Ternera}}. [[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] ([[User talk:JJPMaster|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|contribs]]) 22:54, 27 November 2024 (UTC) :{{not done|Not undeleted}} What the IP created is out-of-scope for Wikibooks. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 08:17, 28 November 2024 (UTC) ::[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Done'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} I'm pretty sure this was a delete request, and it was brought here because the original editor kept removing the speedy deletion tag! I already completed it :) —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:29, 29 November 2024 (UTC) :::<span class="template-ping">@[[:User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]], [[:User:SHB2000|SHB2000]]:</span> Yeah, I didn't want to edit war over keeping the CSD tag, so I RfD'd it to play it safe. [[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] ([[User talk:JJPMaster|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|contribs]]) 18:32, 30 November 2024 (UTC) ::::oh, right cool – cheers for making a request here. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 19:26, 30 November 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == NVQ Carpentry books == * [[NVQ Carpentry Level 2]] * [[NVQ Carpentry Level 3]] These pages are both largely unformatted lists of test questions and answers pertaining to UK carpentry training programs (cf. [[:w:National Vocational Qualification]]). They are not written as books, and would take a major effort to transform into appropriate training materials for the associated coursework, rather than the "cheat sheets" they are now. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 18:14, 13 December 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:54, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[AvernumScript]] == This book is a copydump of the Blades of Avernum documentation, which is not freely licensed. (The original documentation is available at [http://www.avernum.com/blades/scen_workshop.html], in the "Blades of Avernum Editor" download, as "BoA Editor Docs v12.pdf".) [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 18:33, 13 December 2024 (UTC) :If it's a copyvio, I think we can speedy delete it. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 03:23, 16 December 2024 (UTC) == [[WikiLang]] == * [[WikiLang]] * about 70 subpages; see [[Special:PrefixIndex/WikiLang/]] for a full list * [[Transwiki:WikiLang/Gothic alphabet/𐌰]] * [[Transwiki:WikiLang/Jeju]] * [[Transwiki:WikiLang/Plattdüütsch Phonology]] These pages were imported from [[:m:WikiLang]] in 2021 for unclear reasons. It was originally a proposal for a new Wikimedia project which was rejected in 2017. The main page still contains the project proposal from meta, and the subpages contain a mishmash of encyclopedic content (e.g. [[WikiLang/Africa]]), word lists (e.g. [[WikiLang/Blackfoot/Animals]]), and miscellaneous project content (e.g. [[WikiLang/Media]], [[WikiLang/News]], etc). While the goals of this project may be laudable, this material doesn't add up to a book, and [[WB:NOTMETA|Wikibooks is not a launchpad for new Wikimedia projects]]. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:05, 13 December 2024 (UTC) : See [[m:Meta:Requests_for_deletion/Archives/2021#WikiLang_pages]]. This also already exists on Wikiversity as [[v:Portal:Wikilang]]. I guess we don't need both. [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 19:15, 11 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Transwiki:Bypassing the Great Firewall of China]] == This content was imported from Wikipedia about 18 years ago (!), but never found a home in any existing book. Given its extreme age, the instructions on this page are no longer relevant or useful; the Tor Project has more up-to-date content on the topic on its own web site. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 00:02, 15 December 2024 (UTC) :If it's out of date, not useful, and not part of any other book, I can't see a good reason for keeping it. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 03:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC) : {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:53, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Transwiki:Easy Hydroponics Feeding]] == This reads like a promotional article for a brand of plant food ("Maxsea"). Even if we had an appropriate book to merge this into, this wouldn't belong in it. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 00:05, 15 December 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} per listed reasons. It does seem suspiciously like promotional material. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 03:25, 16 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Anglese]] == A very incomplete lexicon (consisting of about a dozen words) for what appears to be a constructed language. Even if this were a real language, which it doesn't appear to be, it'd belong on Wiktionary, not here. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 21:26, 16 December 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:52, 23 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} per stated reasoning. Extremely small amount of content, not well-defined as book. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:27, 24 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Adam Curylo's Python]] == A small collection of a user's Python programs and notes on external resources. This isn't useful as a book (as it's almost entirely source code); we have multiple books like [[Python Programming]] on the topic already. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 21:26, 16 December 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} Wikibooks is not GitHub. [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:52, 23 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} per stated reasoning —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:28, 24 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Teaching Social Studies in Virtual Space]] == Abandoned; no substantial content since the book was created in 2011. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 05:26, 17 December 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} A lot of meta-content but no actual content. [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:52, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Template:Ncd]] == Unnecessary hardcoded instance of {{tlx|Now Commons}}. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 05:13, 22 December 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} Unused legacy import. [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:51, 23 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} or redirect to the new template. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:47, 21 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Proposed New Characters: The Pipeline]] == A couple issues with this one: * The book scope is unclear, and there has been no engagement with the query flag. * I'm concerned that this is part of the long-term vandalism we've been having with unicode-related materials. See the following discussions for some context: ** [[Wikibooks:Reading_room/Administrative_Assistance/Archives/2023/April#Please_check_sockpuppets_editing_Unicode/Versions| Please check sockpuppets editing Unicode/Versions (April 2023)]] ** [[Wikibooks:Reading_room/Administrative_Assistance/Archives/2023/July#Unicode/Versions|Unicode/Versions (July 2023)]] **[[Wikibooks:Reading_room/Administrative_Assistance/Archives/2024/August#Special:Contributions/2405:204:0:0:0:0:0:0/32_and_w:Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1157#IP_editor_adds_unsourced_content_to_JP_writing_system_articles|IP editor adds unsourced content to JP writing system articles (August 2024)]] ** [[Wikibooks:Reading_room/Administrative_Assistance/Archives/2024/August#CU_request|CU request (August 2024)]] —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:14, 29 December 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - this is a mixture of copy/pasted content from the Unicode web site and made-up nonsense. [https://unicode.org/versions/Unicode17.0.0/ Unicode 17.0 is currently a draft], and is likely to be released in September '''2025''' (not 2024 as stated on this page). The remainder of the page appears to be conflating accepted Unicode proposals, pending proposals, and unofficial assignments (e.g. for constructed scripts); the result is an incomprehensible mess. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 20:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - definitely doesn't seem to fit. <sup>&#8212; [[User:L10nM4st3r|<span style="color:#c71300">L10nM4st3r</span>]]</sup> / <sub>[[User talk:L10nM4st3r|<span style="color:#ce3f00">'''ROAR''' at me!</span>]]</sub> 15:23, 15 January 2025 (UTC) == [[AT&T Mobility FAQ]] == * [[AT&T Mobility FAQ]] * [[AT&T Mobility FAQ/MEdia Net Configuration]] * [[AT&T Mobility FAQ/Data Connect Configuration]] An ''extremely'' outdated FAQ on AT&T's cell phone services. Most of this document was written 20+ years ago as a Usenet FAQ; very little of it is accurate or useful anymore (particularly the two subpages, which have to do with obsolete configurations for "tethering" a computer to a cell phone). No objection if someone wants to update it, but there's clearly been no appetite to do that. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC) :I'm wondering if it might make sense for us to develop some kind of policy on archiving books here. There are many like this one that have a good deal of content but are extremely out of date and just not useful as originally intended. ——[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:34, 30 December 2024 (UTC) ::@[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]]: See the newly developed [[Wikibooks:Outdated books]]. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 00:16, 31 December 2024 (UTC) :::Ooh, thanks - something like that seems like it could be an appropriate way to handle this book. A lot of the other outdated books I've tagged have been so incomplete that they wouldn't have been particularly useful even as historical references; this one might at least have some interest. :::Any chance we can get a separate namespace (maybe "Archive:") set up for archived book content? That'd make it possible to do things like exclude them from on-site search by default. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 21:07, 31 December 2024 (UTC) ::::I think this might be a more extended discussion, so I'll bump it over to the [[Wikibooks talk:Outdated books|talk page of the draft policy]]! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:54, 31 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Install osDate]] == Single-page book on how to install a piece of software which, as far as I can tell, is no longer available anywhere. This doesn't feel like a great candidate for archiving, as it's largely repeating instructions which were almost certainly included in the software installer - there's no unique insight worth saving here. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 01:48, 1 January 2025 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 19:18, 13 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Skript+]] == This book is about a scripting language made by the main contributor (who did all but one of the contributions in the whole book). There are, also, NO mentions of "Skript+", excluding random forums discussing a Minecraft mod. The "scripting language" is for ChatGPT. I, personally, do not believe I will ever need to determine the output of a ChatGPT conversation because the purpose of ChatGPT is not to provide a predetermined output. It, also, does not have many features, which makes it practically useless. And new information will not be added because the user is now inactive. It doesn't even mention how to import "Skript+". It even states that it is a concept. A concept cannot be a education resource. [[User:GrammarPoliceOffical|GrammarPoliceOffical]] ([[User talk:GrammarPoliceOffical|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/GrammarPoliceOffical|contribs]]) 03:45, 3 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} for the following reasons: :* Book has been abandoned with very little content; :* Book does not have any real introductory matter or other content explaining it in sufficient detail; :* Cannot find evidence of this scripting language or its adoption anywhere else, and the only contributor explicitly says they invented it; :* As was mentioned, I can't understand how a scripting language is even supposed to work when fed into a large language model like GPT. That's not how scripting or LLMs are designed to work. :—[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:44, 3 January 2025 (UTC) ::Concur. This "scripting language" is entirely imaginary. It's running with the concept that a language model can follow simple instructions, and trying to formalize that behavior into a "language". But there is no such formal language; the language model is just trying to play along with whatever input the user throws at it. Trying to document it is futile. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Learn Polish with This Book]] == Is an empty book. A book for Polish already exists ([[Polish]]). [[User:GrammarPoliceOffical|GrammarPoliceOffical]] ([[User talk:GrammarPoliceOffical|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/GrammarPoliceOffical|contribs]]) 03:55, 3 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} per stated reasons —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:35, 3 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...d6/2. Qg4]] == Obvious queen blunder which has [https://old.chesstempo.com/gamedb/fen/rnbqkbnr/ppp1pppp/3p4/8/4P1Q1/8/PPPP1PPP/RNB1KBNR%20b%20KQkq%20-%201%202 never] been played at master level, and would never be mentioned in a chess opening book. [[User:J Mo 101|J Mo 101]] ([[User talk:J Mo 101|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/J Mo 101|contribs]]) 18:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}}. This is described in [https://en.chessbase.com/post/bust-this-a-philosophical-opening a Chessbase blog post] as "the worst blunder in the opening that does not lead to immediate checkmate", and in [https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/23480/have-engines-refuted-any-established-openings a chess.stackexchange answer] as a "nonsense opening". The intent of this book is to describe common practice, not to enumerate every possible move. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 03:54, 13 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Cookbook talk:Grilled_Cheese_Sandwich]] == {{closed|Resolved —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:48, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} '''Please note that I am only nominating the talk page for deletion.''' This talk page is a copyright violation. It copies content from an [[WB:BADTRANSWIKI#Unrecoverable bad transwikis|unrecoverable talk page]] from enwiki, and the attribution provided ("Copied talk page from en:Talk:Grilled cheese sandwich") is insufficient, as it fails to account for the GFDL's requirement that "... you must ... Preserve the section Entitled "History", Preserve its Title, and add to it an item stating at least the title, year, new authors, and publisher of the Modified Version as given on the Title Page." The history provided is only of the associated cookbook page, not the talk page itself. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 05:57, 11 January 2025 (UTC) * The signatures of the copied comments provide needed attribution, right? [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 06:06, 11 January 2025 (UTC) *:@[[User:Pppery|Pppery]]: I don't know if that's sufficient, since the page history ("section Entitled 'History'") itself is not included. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 06:13, 11 January 2025 (UTC) *::The [[w:Wikipedia:Volunteer Response Team|Volunteer Response Team]] has confirmed off-wiki that the signature is indeed sufficient attribution. Therefore, {{withdrawn}}. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 15:18, 12 January 2025 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[My Preferences When Meeting New Friends]] == Probably doesn't fit into wikibooks, looks to be more of an opinionated book. <sup>&#8212; [[User:L10nM4st3r|<span style="color:#c71300">L10nM4st3r</span>]]</sup> / <sub>[[User talk:L10nM4st3r|<span style="color:#ce3f00">'''ROAR''' at me!</span>]]</sub> 09:43, 16 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Co-Life]] == This appears to be documentation for an internal web application at the National Center for High-performance Computing in Taiwan which is no longer online. (It's unclear if it was ever available to the public in the first place, or if it was only available to staff.) Either way, the documentation is of no use to us or anyone. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 03:30, 17 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} per stated reasoning. There's very little content, and it just doesn't seem useful or worth preserving to me. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:03, 7 February 2025 (UTC) == Mandarin edition of the OpenSSH wikibook is an abandoned fragment and not based on the actual book == The Chinese edition of the OpenSSH wikibook is only a tiny fragment of a single page which has remained abandoned since 2017. Furthermore, the text which it contains is not even based on the actual book. Please tidy things up by deleting the [https://zh.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH Chinese OpenSSH book page] and removing all links to it, if any, which are found on the main book. Thanks. If the page cannot be deleted, please at least remove the link to it from the English edition of the [https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH OpenSSH book]. Thanks again. — [[User:Larsnooden|Larsnooden]] ([[User talk:Larsnooden|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Larsnooden|contribs]]) 09:53, 28 January 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Larsnooden|Larsnooden]] We cannot do the first one (you'll need to bring it up directly with the zh.wikibooks users), and the second one is also difficult, because the interwiki links are actually hosted on Wikidata and I am not sure if we can remove a link for this reason. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 12:30, 28 January 2025 (UTC) ::I understand. Have I marked the page correctly for deletion there? If so, will it eventually be processed by the zh.wikibooks commmunity? — [[User:Larsnooden|Larsnooden]] ([[User talk:Larsnooden|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Larsnooden|contribs]]) 13:41, 28 January 2025 (UTC) :::It looks like a deletion discussion has been created; however, it also looks like there's very little activity on the discussion page, with some discussions having been open for several years. So I wouldn't hold my breath. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 01:15, 4 February 2025 (UTC) == [[Rc]] == There are precisely zero links to this cross-namespace redirect that didn't work at the time of creation. I converted it into a soft redirect instead of RfDing thinking that that could break links, before realizing that there are none. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 04:47, 5 February 2025 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 04:56, 21 March 2025 (UTC) == Algebra/Chapter 10/Symmetric Polynomials == I personally believe that [[Algebra/Chapter 10/Symmetric Polynomials|this]], and all of the sections should be deleted for the fact that this goes WAY beyond the scope of what was intended for the Chapter (Algebra II level polynomials). [[User:GoreyCat|GoreyCat]] ([[User talk:GoreyCat|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/GoreyCat|contribs]]) 15:07, 6 February 2025 (UTC) :'''Split''': Deletion here is not the best solution (see [[w:WP:ATD]]). Instead, this page and its subpages should be moved to another book, most likely [[Abstract Algebra]]. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 17:35, 6 February 2025 (UTC) :{{keep}} since there is a good amount of content. If [[Abstract Algebra]] is appropriate, it seems like a fine idea to move there. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:59, 7 February 2025 (UTC) ::Eh, yeah, I supposed moving it is better. I just don't think it's suitable for where it appears. [[User:GoreyCat|GoreyCat]] ([[User talk:GoreyCat|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/GoreyCat|contribs]]) 01:40, 8 February 2025 (UTC) == [[Change Issues in Curriculum and Instruction]] == This book is a school project with OR that should be moved to Wikiversity. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 03:30, 8 February 2025 (UTC) :I'm not certain this is a good fit for Wikiversity either. It's essentially a collection of student essays written in 2007 on various topics related to education. If this were an active project there'd be more of an argument for moving it, but in its current state I don't think it makes sense to keep. It's hopelessly mired in opinion and often badly outdated; I'm inclined to say the answer will be to {{vd}} it. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:02, 8 February 2025 (UTC) == History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/A == The following pages are also nominated for deletion: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/B https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/C https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/D https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/E https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/F https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/G https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/H https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/I https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/J https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/K https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/L These are now all duplicate pages that were: (1) originally created by @Xeverything11 in Dec 2024 by extracting portion of History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies; (2) then "blanked" (all content removed) by myself in Dec 2024 contemporaneous with discussions with @Kittycataclysmat and @Leaderboard in Reading_room/General (topic: Page Size); (3) then reverted by @JJPMaster in Feb 2025 with a suggestion that the pages needed to be referred for Speedy Deletion here. The individual alphabetical pages are now duplicates and orphans and should be deleted. The original pages have been updated over the last two months and the existence of the duplicate pages serves no purpose and is confusing == [[Introduction to Human Geography]] == Abandoned for multiple years, only one page has any meaningful content, and it's about two paragraphs —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:53, 9 February 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} Seems abandoned and lacks content. --[[User:Xania|Xania]] [[Image:Flag_of_Estonia.svg|15px]] [[Image:Flag_of_Ukraine.svg|15px]] [[User talk:Xania|<sup>talk</sup>]] 03:38, 17 February 2025 (UTC) == [[Plug-in Development for Google Desktop]] == The [[:w:Google Desktop]] software was discontinued in 2011. Neither the application nor its SDK are available anymore (and the software probably wouldn't work even if you obtained a copy), so the information on this page is no longer useful to anyone. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 02:06, 5 March 2025 (UTC) :'''Delete'''. The [[Wikibooks:Deletion policy|deletion policy]] isn't 100% clear on what to do with stuff like this. Because the definition of "meaningful content" can be open to interpretation, in this case, I would argue this page lacks in meaningful content because there is no reason anyone would ever need it anymore, given the fact that Google Desktop is long deprecated. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 11:40, 5 March 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} because there is so little content and organization that it wouldn't really make sense to archive it. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:50, 21 March 2025 (UTC) == [[2009 UIL Spelling Study Manual]] == The 2009 UIL Spelling Competition was over 15 years ago; it's unlikely that this outdated word list would be of use to anyone - especially since it was never completed; the last word defined (in alphabetical order) is "casus belli", and the word list itself stops at "futurity race". I'm not sure the full list is even available anywhere, nor that the study manual would be any more useful even if it were finished. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 02:29, 5 March 2025 (UTC) :'''Delete'''. Clearly abandoned, and lacking in meaningful content. I agree with the nominator that this would be unlikely to be useful even if it were able to be finished. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 11:31, 5 March 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} per stated reasoning. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:51, 21 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Puredyne]] == Development of Puredyne Linux was discontinued in 2012, and the software no longer appears to be available for download anywhere. (An archive of the web site is still up - with a bunch of embedded spam links - but the download links are all dead.) Is this a suitable candidate for archival (cf. [[Wikibooks:Outdated books]]), or should it just be deleted? [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 04:35, 5 March 2025 (UTC) :I'd just archive stuff like this. Looks like a decent bit of work went into it, and you never know when someone might need to use Puredyne for some obscure project. I'd be willing to bet mirrors exist of it somewhere, or someone has it on a drive. If you want to find some stuff worth deleting, comb through [[:Category:Allbooks categories]]. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 11:30, 5 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Laptop Computer Models]] == This book aimed to become a catalog of "all known laptop computer models". Whether this sort of database is even in scope for Wikibooks is questionable. But it's beyond question that the book has failed to achieve its objective - out of the many thousands of models of laptops that have been manufactured, this book only has information on a few dozen, mostly from around 2010 (when it was written). Most of the subpages are incomplete, and there seems to be little interest in improving or updating the book. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 20:09, 17 March 2025 (UTC) * Intuitively or from heart, I would delete the material as per above: it is too underdeveloped and has been so for a long time. However, it is not clear that it matches policy. To address a possible policy problem, I started [[Wikibooks:Reading room/General#Deleting stale stubs]]. The policy states: "In general, keep stubs that can be improved on, but delete stubs that are too narrowly defined or do not have a decent definition of what they are about." --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 09:51, 22 March 2025 (UTC) *:As a matter of policy, I'm fairly certain that a book of this nature would already be out of scope per [[WB:NOTWP]]. If an encyclopedia or dictionary is out of scope as insufficiently "book-like", a catalog like this is only more so. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 20:51, 23 March 2025 (UTC) *:: That seems right: "Wikibooks is not an in-depth encyclopedia on a specific topic nor are pages encyclopedia-formatted articles. Books build knowledge from one page to the next, with interdependency between pages. Books in progress are sometimes organized in an encyclopedic manner until developed into proper books. For an encyclopedia, see our sister project Wikipedia." However, I think this is a bad policy as formulated, in part since it would lead e.g. to deletion of [[Windows Batch Scripting]]. That is to say, I do not think chapters/sections/parts of a book should be required to be integrated, one building on another. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 19:27, 26 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Template:R from move]] == The template in question is not added to redirects that were created after moving a page. In fact, [[:Category:Redirects from moves]] does not exist. Both the template and the documentation contain multiple non-existent templates. This template appears to be an exact copy of the template on [[w:Template:R from move|Wikipedia]]. (except for the hatnote which was moved from the template to the documentation on Wikibooks, unlike Wikipedia; the hatnote was removed from the documentation because the template is not added to redirects that result from page moves) – [[User:TG-article|<span style="color:darkgrey;font-family:monospace">'''TG-ARTICLE'''</span>]] ([[User talk:TG-article|<span style="color:#255373;font-family:monospace">talk</span>]]) 17:20, 19 March 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} - this looks like it was inadvertently pulled in during the 2024 import of {{tl|Isotones}}; see [https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:Log?user=Leaderboard&wpdate=2024-06-08 logs] for details. There's a handful of other unused templates in the Transwiki namespace which transclude this template, which should probably be deleted as well. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 02:57, 20 March 2025 (UTC) : {{vd}} Sigh. [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 04:55, 21 March 2025 (UTC) : {{vd}} per nom. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 10:02, 23 March 2025 (UTC) == [[MediaWiki:Wantedpages]] == Says the special page is disabled. It isn't anymore. [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 04:55, 21 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Wikibooks:Ignore all rules]] == The title of this page, created in 2024 without discussion as far as I can see, is a dishonest/Orwellian exhortation. It should ideally be deleted. No honest person, especially administrator, can admonish other editors to ignore all rules. Being driven by good rules is a sign of well administered public wiki that as if anyone can edit. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 19:14, 26 March 2025 (UTC) :{{keep}} as the author of the page. "Ignore all rules" is one of the most fundamental ideals of the Wikimedia movement (see [[meta:Ignore all rules]] for information about it, as well as the interwiki links on [[WB:IAR]]). (Note: I did not become an administrator until after I created the page) [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 03:52, 28 March 2025 (UTC) :: It is not an ideal but rather an anti-ideal. The meta page states: "If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining a project, ignore it." I am a semi-admin/curator in the English Wikiversity, capable of deleting pages; should I follow the quoted meta-rule, I could immediately start deleting bad pages in volume regardless of policies, guidelines and common practice: I would argue that the existing rules (policies, guidelines, etc.) prevent me from improving or maintaining the project. The same problem exists in Wikibooks: if I was a Wikibooks administrator, I could claim that the rule of using RFD to delete bad pages prevents me from (efficiently) improving or maintaining a project, then ignore the rule and start deleting bad pages in volume via speedy deletion. The reason why this does not happen is that administrators do in general in fact abide by rules (policies and guidelines), even those rules that prevent them from improving the project (improving by their assessment). :: I therefore repeat my proposal to delete this dishonest page, fortunately not matching the actual practice. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 13:44, 3 April 2025 (UTC) == [[Anarchist FAQ]] == The book is mostly copied from https://anarchistfaq.org/afaq, which is [https://anarchistfaq.org/afaq/intro.html licensed] only under the GFDL. This violates [[WB:COPY]], which says that "you cannot import information which is available only under the GFDL". [[User:Jlwoodwa|jlwoodwa]] ([[User talk:Jlwoodwa|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jlwoodwa|contribs]]) 02:57, 28 March 2025 (UTC) :{{u|JJPMaster}} said in [[Special:Diff/4484327|an edit summary]] that the copyright holder was "contacted with instructions to email VRT". [[User:Jlwoodwa|jlwoodwa]] ([[User talk:Jlwoodwa|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jlwoodwa|contribs]]) 03:37, 28 March 2025 (UTC) :Much of the content was copied before dual licensing was introduced at Wikibooks and is therefore not a violation of the policy that was in force at the time. This is therefore not a valid deletion reason for any content that pre-dates the introduction of dual licensing [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 11:37, 28 March 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} - the fact that the content of this book is almost entirely copied from an outside source is itself a problem, regardless of the license of that work. The purpose of Wikibooks is to develop new freely licensed texts, not merely to create copies of existing texts. [[Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/Anarchist FAQ|A 2009 request for deletion]] was closed as "keep on the condition it is developed and not hosted as a completed work". Over fifteen years later, this still hasn't happened, and there's no indication that it ever will. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 04:36, 29 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Template:Qr-twwp]] == This isn't exactly a request to delete the template, but rather to merge it with {{tlx|Copypaste}}. The {{tlx|Qr-twwp}} template serves the same purpose as {{tlx|Copypaste}}, but without the seven-day period after which the page is deleted. This leads to confusion, as well as a perpetually full [[:Category:Queried pages]]. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 17:37, 30 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Evalution of Online Sources]] == {{closed|1=Deleted. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 02:54, 20 June 2025 (UTC)}} Abandoned for multiple years, no meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:36, 2 May 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}}. No content beyond the introduction. Pity - it'd be a useful resource if it existed. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 21:55, 4 May 2025 (UTC) :Deleted [[User talk:QueerEcofeminist|per creator agreement]] —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:32, 5 May 2025 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Character Encodings]] == Was never fleshed out into a proper book and consists only of code tables —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:40, 2 May 2025 (UTC) == [[Defence in Depth for Securing Computer Systems]] == Abandoned for over a decade; very little meaningful content with no plan for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:45, 2 May 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} - what little content exists in this book is badly out of date. Computer security has changed a lot over the last ~20 years; the basic recommendations made in this book like "you should have a configuration management system" or "make sure your server cabinet is locked" simply don't cut it anymore. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:06, 4 May 2025 (UTC) == [[CASP]] == Abandoned for over a decade; no meaningful content; just lists of terms —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:49, 2 May 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} - this is just a list of objectives for the exam, and [https://partners.comptia.org/docs/default-source/resources/comptia-casp-cas-004-exam-objectives-(4-0) the current objectives of the exam] are completely different than those shown here. (Unsurprisingly so, given that this book was created in 2014, and that computer security hasn't stood still in the meantime.) [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:12, 4 May 2025 (UTC) == [[Managing enterprises with advanced ICT]] == Abandoned for multiple years; little meaningful content; was never more than a list of outlinks to enWP —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:51, 2 May 2025 (UTC) == [[Adobe GoLive Guide]] == Abandoned, fragmentary manual for a piece of web design software which was discontinued in 2008. Further development seems unlikely; no substantial edits have been made in the last 15+ years. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 20:29, 15 May 2025 (UTC) == [[Transwiki:Takeminakata]] == Copied Wikipedia article, per [[WP:NOTWP]]. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 23:48, 25 May 2025 (UTC) :[[User:Immanuelle|Immanuelle]] requested that this be imported in December 2024 ([[Wikibooks:Requests for import/Archives/2024/December#Multiple pages for User:Immanuelle]]. @[[User:Immanuelle|Immanuelle]]: Do you have any plans for this page? [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 05:15, 26 May 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] Yes I do have plans for it. I was meaning to import it to here [[User:Immanuelle/sandbox/Suwa_Faith]] and work on it. But I thought the request was never responded to. It is part of a project for making a book talking about types of Shinto shrines. Although I cannot promise I will complete it soon. [[User:Immanuelle|Immanuelle]] ([[User talk:Immanuelle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Immanuelle|contribs]]) 07:44, 26 May 2025 (UTC) ::: Oh, and if that's the case, you can move this and I'll withdraw this request, is that correct? [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 00:03, 27 May 2025 (UTC) ::::Can we merge in the history here? [[User:Immanuelle|Immanuelle]] ([[User talk:Immanuelle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Immanuelle|contribs]]) 22:50, 1 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Ainu]] == Abandoned multiple years; no meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:18, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Australia's International Airline Freight]] == Seems out of scope (not book-like) and potentially encyclopedic; minimal content and potential for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:21, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == Pages in [[Baptist Theology]] == * [[Baptist Theology/Character of God]] * [[Baptist Theology/The Church]] * [[Baptist Theology/The Apostles Creed]] * [[Baptist Theology/Salvation]] * [[Baptist Theology/Origin of Sin]] * [[Baptist Theology/Men and Women in God's Creation]] * [[Baptist Theology/Last Things]] * [[Baptist Theology/Jesus Christ (the Son of God)]] * [[Baptist Theology/Its supernatural origin]] * [[Baptist Theology/Holy Spirit]] * [[Baptist Theology/God the Father]] * [[Baptist Theology/Existence of God]] Entire book is orphaned and was never properly structured; suffers from key and widespread NPOV issues; abandoned and undeveloped —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:27, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Bible Stories/The Birth of Jesus]] == Orphaned page and out of scope (single story) —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:28, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Chemical Dynamics/Electrostatics]] == Abandoned >1 decade; orphaned; minimal meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:47, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == Subpages in [[Christian Hymns]] == All pages are orphaned; per [[WB:SOURCE]] this is a repository and is out of scope —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:54, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Economic Sophisms]] == Per [[WB:SOURCE]]. The previous RFD was closed as no consensus though there was reasonable evidence to delete. Previous discussions had suggested that the book could be improved, but it has now been several years without progress or moves to annotate the book for compliance with WB scope. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 15:26, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Essentials of Number Theory]] == Abandoned with minimal content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 15:34, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == winarsi@gmail.com == {| class="wikitable" |+ Caption text |- ! Header text !! Header text !! Header text |- | Example || Example || Example |- | Example || Example || Example |- | Example || Example || Example |} == winarsi@gmail.com == winarsi@gmail.com,083830737678 [[Special:Contributions/103.149.19.70|103.149.19.70]] ([[User talk:103.149.19.70|discuss]]) 16:54, 1 July 2025 (UTC) jydc8x9nps0b58rzgp1umok37brqfj9 4520797 4520796 2025-07-01T16:55:19Z Quinlan83 3290607 [[WB:REVERT|Reverted]] edits by [[Special:Contributions/103.149.19.70|103.149.19.70]] ([[User talk:103.149.19.70|talk]]) to last version by EJPPhilippines 4520622 wikitext text/x-wiki __NEWSECTIONLINK__ [[Category:Wikibooks deletion|{{PAGENAME}}]] {{Discussion Rooms}} {{TOCleft}} {{Requests for deletion/Archives}} {{Requests for deletion/Using Template:Icon}} {{clear}} = Undeletion = {{shortcut|WB:RFU}} {{Requests for deletion/New undeletion}} {{Requests for deletion/Undeletion intro}} ==[[Transwiki:Effects of different voting systems under similar circumstances]]== This page had several years of editing on English Wikipedia, then was moved over to Wikibooks. I'm an admin on enwiki, so I've undeleted the parent article on enwiki and put it the Draft namespace over to decide what do with the prose (see [[w:Draft:Effects of different voting systems under similar circumstances]]). I think it would be possible to create a coherent book about voting systems using this example to tie together the explanations of various voting systems. Since I'm not an admin on English Wikibooks, I can't see what work was done after the move was performed, so I'd like to see what (if anything) other folks were able to do with the material after the move. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/RobLa|contribs]]) 21:47, 1 February 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:RobLa|RobLa]]! It looks like it was deleted in 2012 because it was never worked on after the initial import. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:51, 2 February 2025 (UTC) ::Thanks for the update, @[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]]! Could you undelete it? I'd like to work on it. I didn't have time to work on it when it was moved, but I have time now. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/RobLa|contribs]]) 06:22, 2 February 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:RobLa|RobLa]]: I've userfied it for you. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 06:28, 2 February 2025 (UTC) :::<nowiki>[[File:Nuvola French flag.svg]]</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:D480:A020:B046:89CA:1E3E:FF9D|2600:1700:D480:A020:B046:89CA:1E3E:FF9D]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:D480:A020:B046:89CA:1E3E:FF9D|discuss]]) 18:35, 21 March 2025 (UTC) ==[[City Of Heroes]]== {{closed|Was undeleted —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:39, 17 August 2024 (UTC)}} A book that was deleted when strategy guides were not allowed. See discussion -<span style="background:yellow;>User:Slava Ukraini Heroyam Slava 123 <span style="color:blue span> 17:13, 12 November 2022 (UTC)</span></span> :This book was deleted about 16 years ago and only one page had a significant amount of content. It could all be undeleted but would probably be better re-made from scratch.--[[User:Xania|Xania]] [[Image:Flag_of_Estonia.svg|15px]] [[Image:Flag_of_Ukraine.svg|15px]] [[User talk:Xania|<sup>talk</sup>]] 01:34, 11 August 2023 (UTC) ::'''Undeleted it''' with many first-level subpages. Yet [[City Of Heroes/Archetypes]], [[City Of Heroes/Powers]], [[City Of Heroes/General Help]], [[City Of Heroes/Enhancements]], [[City Of Heroes/Binds]] and [[City Of Heroes/Badges]] have even more subpages to be undeleted.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] ([[User talk:Jusjih|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jusjih|contribs]]) 22:50, 19 August 2023 (UTC) :::'''Undeleted''' many subpages of the above subpages, less obviously useless versions. Yet any administrators are hereby advised to check [[Special:Undelete]] for more to be undeleted.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] ([[User talk:Jusjih|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jusjih|contribs]]) 21:52, 21 August 2023 (UTC) :Remaking this content from scratch might be difficult - the game shut down in 2012. There's a small community of users running private servers based on leaked source code (!), but far fewer than when the game was active. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 07:55, 26 August 2023 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Mass undeletion of books that were deleted when strategy guides were not allowed.]]== {{closed|Not done —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:40, 17 August 2024 (UTC)}} Couldn't we just mass undelete these books? [[User:Garfieldcat1978|Garfieldcat1978]] ([[User talk:Garfieldcat1978|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Garfieldcat1978|contribs]]) 18:25, 20 February 2023 (UTC) Letting bot archive as needed. :Listing which works would be much better.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] ([[User talk:Jusjih|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jusjih|contribs]]) 22:51, 19 August 2023 (UTC) {{end closed}} == Redirects created by myself == I am proposing to undelete [[Cookbook:Dark chocolate chips]], [[Cookbook:Peanut butter]] and [[Cookbook:Food coloring]] because in my opinion I believe it is necessary due to the pipe trick. For example, I entered <code><nowiki>[[Cookbook:Food coloring|]]</nowiki></code>, which gives you [[Cookbook:Food coloring|Food coloring]], which is currently a red link, so I created this redirect to [[Cookbook:Food Coloring]]. What are your thoughts? [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 08:37, 5 December 2024 (UTC) :This is a good question! When I started out in the cookbook several years ago, I also created redirects like this. However, I was told at the time that Wikibooks does not use redirects in this way. I am open to further discussion about this, especially with the Cookbook, since it does not function like the other books on the project. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:44, 5 December 2024 (UTC) ::Wikibooks doesn't allow redirects in mainspace. However, as in [[Cookbook:Grunt Work]], redirects are allowed in Cookbook namespace. [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 16:07, 7 December 2024 (UTC) :::That's an interesting point. In terms of my personal opinion, I am currently neutral about redirects like this. I do think having these redirects can be helpful in some cases, especially given the wide range of terminologies used in cooking and the collaborative nature of the cookbook. However, excessive and unnecessary redirects (e.g. with all potential capitalization options) can create clutter. And, if I recall correctly, it's generally best practice to never link directly to redirect pages, instead linking to the correct end-page and subsection as appropriate. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 17:46, 7 December 2024 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]], @[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]], @[[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]]: pinging users since these users didn't participate this undeletion request in almost 2 weeks. [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 13:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] I don't get the relevance of the pipe trick with this. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 15:39, 17 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::I don't either. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 20:36, 17 December 2024 (UTC) ::::I'm not sure why it would be a problem to link directly to a redirect page. The wikitext doesn't care; the parser doesn't care. I'm not sure why anyone would create a rule against it. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhatamIdoing|contribs]]) 06:55, 18 December 2024 (UTC) :::::IMO I will have to concur with {{u|WhatamIdoing}} that it's a terrible rule, especially all the more that {{w|WP:CHEAP}} and makes these books more accessible (broken redirects can always be dealt with later); that still said I will say no to restoring these redirects until we get the policy changed. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 10:12, 18 December 2024 (UTC) :::::@[[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] I believe you were the one who originally told me about the avoidance of redirects at this project. Do you know what the original reasoning was? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:51, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::It's all down to books v articles. A book is supposed to be self-contained. So, a redirect from an alternative BOOK title to the actual book is okay - e.g., from "Fizzicks" to "Physics". But redirects that go to one page in a book are discouraged as it is creating a structure more like individual articles and creates pages that shouldn't exist. E.g., we don't have a standalone page called "Heat exchange", it's a subpage of Physics, Physics/Heat Exchange". Following the same philosophy you wouldn't have a redirect from "heat exchange" because things that aren't subpages should be books, and there is no book about heat exchange. Similarly, cross namespace redirects were discouraged (e.g., from mainspace to the cookbook space) as the cookbook is supposed to be one, very large, self contained book. Anyway, if I recall correctly, that was the theory. [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 14:15, 22 December 2024 (UTC) :::::::It sounds like they don't want [[Heat exchange]] to redirect to [[Physics/Heat exchange]], because someone might later want to write a whole book about Heat Exchange. :::::::That rationale has nothing to do with redirects for alternate (i.e., wrong) capitalization, which I believe is the question here. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhatamIdoing|contribs]]) 06:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC) :::::::Thank you for the information! I think my personal opinions regarding linking are as follows: :::::::* I agree with keeping books separate from each other and therefore agree that simple inter-book linking and inter-project linking should not be done within actual content pages. For example, if a book on philosophy used the word "physics" somewhere in the text, that word should not be wikilinked to [[Physics]]. Exceptions could be deliberate connections/references to another book (e.g. "see-also" or "further reading" chapters separate from the main content). :::::::* The cookbook has, for over a decade, been operating slightly differently from the other books in the project. It is its own subproject, which is reflected in the namespace and the way it uses categories. It is also a massive work that is continuously expanding through small additions by various contributors, and its pages are deeply interconnected with each other. Additionally, words for many of the concepts discussed in the cookbook have different names and are different in various cultures—redirects prevent incorrect linking and the creation of pages that already exist. For these reasons, I think it's okay to create redirects for its frequently-used subpages (e.g. ingredient/equipment/technique pages) that are often linked to in recipes. :::::::Cheers! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::::I agree. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhatamIdoing|contribs]]) 20:45, 23 December 2024 (UTC) :::::::::+2. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 06:10, 25 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::::Since there seems to be consensus here, I've codified this at [[Cookbook:Policy#Redirects]] —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Atlas Shrugged/Places]] == {{closed|1=Undeleted to undo the invalid reason to deletion--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] ([[User talk:Jusjih|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jusjih|contribs]]) 02:22, 1 May 2025 (UTC)}} This page was transwikied from the English Wikipedia after an [[w:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Places in Atlas Shrugged|AfD]], but unilaterally deleted by [[User:Hagindaz|Hagindaz]] on the grounds that it was an "out-of-date copy of [a] Wikipedia article." This is not a valid speedy deletion criterion, and there was no RfD. Additionally, the nonexistence of this page poses an obstacle in the process of removing all of the Wikipedia links in [[Atlas Shrugged]]. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 04:46, 22 December 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} = Deletion = {{shortcut|WB:RFD}} {{Requests for deletion/New deletion}} {{Requests for deletion/Deletion intro}} {{clear}} <!-- New nominations go at the bottom of page --> == Files from [[Illustrated Guide to the world of Spira (FFX and FFX-2)]] == {{closed|1=Deleted for lack of a valid NFCC. [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 15:34, 24 October 2024 (UTC)}} Used for decorative, not educational, purposes: [[:File:Float 13.jpg]], [[:File:Grabbed Frame 15.jpg]], [[:File:Gandof.jpg]], [[:File:Ohalland.jpg]], [[:File:Braskascan1.jpg]], [[:File:Tidus FFX.png]] ([[WB:NFCC]]#8). — Ирука<sup>[[user:Iruka13|13]]</sup> 13:54, 17 July 2023 (UTC) :Sure, I think I can agree on the removal of these [[User:2005-Fan|2005-Fan]] ([[User talk:2005-Fan|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/2005-Fan|contribs]]) 12:24, 22 July 2023 (UTC) {{end closed}} == Various pages in [[Basics of fine-art photography]] == {{closed|1=consensus to delete [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 15:38, 24 October 2024 (UTC)}} The following pages in [[Basics of fine-art photography]] seem out of scope because they consist entirely of personal promotion/advertisement for the author's photography: * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Egypt and Egyptians II]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Lights of Moscow]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Ethiopia through the eyes of traveler]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/On the roads of India]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/14 days in Mongolia]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Egypt and Egyptians III]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Hitchhiking across Sudan]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/January in Japan]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Uganda: tribes and civilization]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Tribes of Kenya]] * [[Basics of fine-art photography/Afghanistan, 2008]] —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 04:13, 25 February 2024 (UTC) :Frankly, the entire book appears to be a vehicle for the author to promote his own photography. The few sentences of instructional content on pages like [[Basics of fine-art photography/Creating works in macro photography]] are practically useless; that one amounts to "to take macro photos, set your camera to macro mode and hold it close to the subject, or read another book for more information". Other pages like [[Basics of fine-art photography/Interior photography in hobo tours]] or [[Basics of fine-art photography/Taking pictures of homeless people]] provide essentially no information on photography technique at all, and seem to mostly be intended as jumping-off points to showcase more of the author's photos. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 19:40, 11 March 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Half-Life Computation]] == Doesn't seem in-scope as a book—just seems like a single page on how to do a specific calculation. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:06, 5 April 2024 (UTC) * Keep -You have to consider also that projects can be merged (I have not checked if there is a possible match) in any case consider it a stub with valid content. It is a stub (November 2018) there is the problem of a namespace collision since it identifies as a specific topic (but as you identified is a very limited scope). Had I the time I would create a structure around it and contribute to it in the subject of Entropy or how our non-existing reality, is also "evaporating" into nothing... : Stubs are promoters to growth, like particles to rain... --[[User:Panic2k4|Panic]] ([[User talk:Panic2k4|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Panic2k4|contribs]]) 20:40, 7 November 2024 (UTC) * [[File:Symbol merge vote.svg|15px|alt=|link=]] '''Merge''' I agree this is not a book by itself, but lots of books have a section about how to calculate half-life stuff -- including some already on Wikibooks: [[A-level Physics (Advancing Physics)/Half-lives]], [[What You Should Know About Medicines/Half life, or how often to take it]], [[Basic Physics of Nuclear Medicine/The Radioactive Decay Law#Half-Life]], [[AP Chemistry/Nuclear Chemistry#Half Life]], [[A-level Physics/Forces, Fields and Energy/Radioactivity#Half-life]], [[A-level Mathematics/OCR/C3/Special Functions and Transformations#Example of Half-life decay]], [[Introduction to Radioisotope Geochronology/Part Two - Principles of Radioisotopic Dating#Decay Constants and Half Lives]], etc. Perhaps this is common enough that [[Half-Life Computation]] could be merged/moved into a page of [[Engineering Tables]] so that it could be shared across several Wikibooks, in the same way that the ASCII table in Engineering Tables is already shared across several Wikibooks. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] ([[User talk:DavidCary|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/DavidCary|contribs]]) 01:38, 13 February 2025 (UTC) == [[Kashubian Dictionary]] == [[WB:DICT|Out of scope]] here; material should be hosted at Wiktionary (I've [[Wiktionary:Wiktionary:Information desk/2024/May|suggested it there]]). —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC) :Any content in this dictionary should be already be at [[wiktionary:Wiktionary:Requested entries (Kashubian)/Kashubian Dictionary]], where we will be able to slowly make entries for these. [[User:Vininn126|Vininn126]] ([[User talk:Vininn126|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Vininn126|contribs]]) 21:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC) == [[Chinese Checkers]] == Extremely minimal content and abandoned for almost 20 years. Was previously nominated for deletion in 2006 but kept on the grounds that it could be expanded—clearly this has not happened. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:56, 11 July 2024 (UTC) == [[HP Open View NNM Exam Guide]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:36, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} One page only; abandoned >1 decade; little to no meaningful content; scope unclear —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:40, 21 July 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}}. [[w:HP OpenView|HP OpenView]] no longer exists as a product (and its successor HP Network Management Center has been discontinued as well!); neither does HP's certification exam for it. There's certainly no purpose in writing a new guide for a nonexistent exam for a obsolete product. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 19:54, 23 July 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Doom Modding]] == Abandoned >1 decade; main page only; very little content; unclear scope/path to completion —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:20, 28 July 2024 (UTC) == [[Global Illumination and HDRI Maps in 3D Studio Max]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:38, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} Abandoned >1 decade; one chapter only, which contains only a handful of sentences. Not enough content and no path for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:27, 28 July 2024 (UTC) *{{del}} per nom. The only subpage is this: [[Global Illumination and HDRI Maps in 3D Studio Max/HDRI Maps]]. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == Pages in [[Security+ Certification]] == Both [[Security+ Certification/Threats and Vulnerabilities]] and [[Security+ Certification/Network Security]] seem to be deprecated per @[[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]]'s recent overhaul; moreover, the pages in question seem to consist entirely of outlinks to Wikipedia. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:32, 3 August 2024 (UTC) == Obsolete Microsoft certification guides == * [[MCSE Server 2003 Certification Core Exams]] (exam 70-290 retired July 2013) * [[Microsoft Certified IT Professional]] (exam 70-444 retired June 2011; exam 70-450 retired July 2015) * [[Microsoft Certified Professional Developer]] (exams 70-526, 70-528, 70-529, 70-547, 70-548 retired June 2011; exams 70-290, 70-536 retired July 2013) These books all correspond to Microsoft certification exams which were retired in 2011-2015, and consist almost entirely of lists of course objectives copied from official course materials. There's almost no original educational content in any of these three books, and it's highly unlikely that they're going to be improved, since the certification exams they correspond to are no longer offered. (Reference for the exam retirement dates is: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/credentials/support/retired-certification-exams) [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 00:27, 4 August 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} per the above; additionally, some of these have very little content at all. Some pages may be candidates for speedy deletion. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:38, 4 August 2024 (UTC) == [[IB Textbook Reviews]] == Very little meaningful educational content; seems like opinion at most? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:45, 4 August 2024 (UTC) == [[Kurdish]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:38, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} Very little content at all, no outline or potential for development; abandoned for years. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:46, 4 August 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:49, 17 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[English-Arabic dictionary]] == Out of scope at Wikibooks since this is already completely covered by Wiktionary. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:49, 4 August 2024 (UTC) :{{comment}} [[English-Arabic dictionary/Colors in Arabic]] gets a nontrivial amount of traffic (~50 views/day). It'd be nice if we could at least preserve this as a redirect to an equivalent resource. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:38, 4 August 2024 (UTC) * '''Keep''': a book selecting vocabulary into introductory groups is very different from a lexical database such as Wiktionary. In Wiktionary, one does not know where to start learning the vocabulary. Admittedly, the title gives excessively broad scope, so something should probably be done. (The argument with 50 views/day has some force.) --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:48, 17 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Valgrind]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:39, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} Abandoned >1 decade; main page only; very little content; unclear scope; no path forward for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:52, 17 August 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - readers would be much better off with [https://valgrind.org/docs/manual/quick-start.html Valgrind's own quick start guide] (which is even freely licensed). [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 17:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Programming for the consultant]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:40, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} Abandoned >1 decade; little to no meaningful content; no plan for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:42, 24 August 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom. The only subpage: [[Programming for the consultant/Approaching A New Code Base]]. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:24, 17 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Metroid]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:40, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} Abandoned; main page only; no meaningful content; no plan for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:44, 24 August 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom; could be speedy. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:00, 17 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Radiata Stories]] == {{closed|Was closed in January —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:40, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} Abandoned; little to no meaningful content; one page only with little content; no path for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:46, 24 August 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom. The one existing subpage is [[Radiata Stories/Character Recruitment]]. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:23, 17 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Dialect]] == Scope unclear; abandoned with no plan for development; little to no meaningful content; most pages qualify for speedy anyway. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:18, 5 September 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 06:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Programming Text Adventures In Basic]] == Main page only; abandoned >1 decade; little meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:17, 7 September 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom, but I think a change of [[Wikibooks:Deletion policy]] is needed so that we can delete useless stubs abandoned for a long time. The nominated page cannot be of any use as is. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 05:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC) == [[UNIX Basics]] == Abandoned >1 decade; little to no meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:23, 7 September 2024 (UTC) * {{del}}: no meaningful content. A bit of meaningful content is in [[Guide to Unix]]. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 05:53, 17 October 2024 (UTC) == [[How to Write a Compiler]] == Abandoned >1 decade; main page only; little meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:24, 7 September 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom: almost no meaningful content. No further reading. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 05:54, 17 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Script Languages Synopsis]] == Abandoned >1 decade; little content; unclear path for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:26, 7 September 2024 (UTC) * {{del}} per nom. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 05:55, 17 October 2024 (UTC) =={{anchor|Network+ Certification}}{{anchor|Security+ Certification}}{{anchor|A+ Certification}} CompTIA Certifications == [[Network+ Certification]] moved and updated at [[:v:Network+|Wikiversity]]. [[Security+ Certification]] moved and updated at [[:v:Security+ Certification|Wikiversity]]. [[A+ Certification]] moved and updated at [[:v:A+ Certification|Wikiversity]]. De-duplicating work across Wikimedia. Subpages should all be deleted as well. Might be worth leaving a redirect to WV for future users. [[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tule-hog|contribs]]) 21:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC) :I centralized at Wikiversity since the projects (as of now) are compendiums of links and resources based on the listed objectives of each exam, sometimes with explicitly suggested 'activities'. Very little in the way of 'book'-like exposition. [[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tule-hog|contribs]]) 21:06, 15 September 2024 (UTC) :Thought about leaving a {{tlx|MovedToWikiversity}} but that template has been deleted in the past. [[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tule-hog|contribs]]) 02:52, 3 October 2024 (UTC) ::If all the content has indeed moved over to Wikiversity, I'm not sure we need to keep these here, especially given their quality. Cheers –[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:18, 12 November 2024 (UTC) == Wikiversal generated pages == * [[Wiki Assistant]] * [[User Page Builder]] *: Inexplicably, the links on the main page of this book all point to pages under [[:w:User:Hazel45onnie/User Page Builder]] '''on the English Wikipedia'''. I'm nominating those pages for deletion on enwiki as a separate process ([[:w:Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikiversuite pages|here]]). * [[WikiverSuite/Wikiversant/Gunport Builder Demo 1]] * [[Wiki Tutorial]] *: Some of the internal links in this book are written as if the book is named [[Tutorial]] instead of [[Wiki Tutorial]]. You may have to use [[Special:Prefixindex/Wiki Tutorial]] to read through the whole thing. These books were all generated using Wikiversal, a third-party wiki editing tool written by [[User:Planotse]] which is no longer downloadable. Many of them contain broken internal links or other outdated content (like references to Wikiversity being a subproject of Wikibooks), and the HTML-heavy markup generated by Wikiversal makes them unreasonably difficult to edit. (As as aside, the markup used for these "presentations" is completely broken on the mobile site, e.g. [https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/User_Page_Builder]. For some reason, the forward/back buttons are invisible, making it impossible to navigate from page to page.) The first three books are all instructions on how to use Wikiversal itself. Since it's no longer available, they are of no use. The fourth, while described as a "Wiki tutorial", primarily instructs users to use Wikiversal to build pages on the wiki; its main page should probably be redirected to [[Using Wikibooks]] as a much more comprehensive resource. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 02:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC) ::It isn't inexplicable that these pages and links are on the English Wikipedia. The spammers who developed these pages were primarily trying to peddle software for use on the English Wikipedia. Their pages on the English Wikipedia are also pending deletion as misusing Wikipedia for web hosting. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Robert McClenon|contribs]]) 18:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC) :::Based on the name and some of the user's (now deleted) activity on Wikiversity, I think the software was actually intended primarily for use on Wikibooks and/or Wikiversity. Why they decided to host some of its documentation on Wikipedia is a mystery. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 18:52, 22 September 2024 (UTC) ::::It isn't worth trying to explain the behavior of spammers. Sometimes the explanation is stupidity and greed. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Robert McClenon|contribs]]) 23:05, 22 September 2024 (UTC) ::<del>I haven't yet looked at the deletion request here. I am primarily an English Wikipedia editor, just as [[User:Omphalographer]] is primarily a Commons editor. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Robert McClenon|contribs]]) 18:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC)</del> *'''Delete All''' - Spam. These books were created twelve years ago to peddle software to new users. This was an abuse of Wikimedia for commercial purposes. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Robert McClenon|contribs]]) 18:51, 22 September 2024 (UTC) == [[PlanoTse Handbook for Job Search Automation]] == Much like the Wikiversal pages nominated above, this book is documentation for a piece of self-authored software by [[User:Planotse]] which is no longer available for download. I can't find any substantial references to this software anywhere online outside of this book itself, so it seems highly unlikely to be useful to anyone. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 02:49, 20 September 2024 (UTC) :[[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' per the above. If the software is not currently available and was never widely available or notable previously, I don't see why keeping it is useful, even for historicity. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:36, 20 September 2024 (UTC) *'''Delete''' - This is more spam by a spammer. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Robert McClenon|contribs]]) 23:17, 22 September 2024 (UTC) == [[Salute, Jonathan!]] and its translations == : [[Alo, Jonathan!]] : [[Bune Ğonatan!]] : [[Dag, Jonathan!]] : [[Glidis, o Jonathan!]] : [[Hai, Jon!]] : [[Hallo, Jonathan!]] : [[Haloo, Jonatan!]] : [[Hay, Jonathan!]] : [[Hej, Jonathan! (Germanisch)]] : [[Hej, Jonathan!]] : [[Hela, Jonathan!]] : [[Holo, Jonathan!]] : [[Oila, Jonatan!]] : [[Salam, Jonathan!]] : [[Salom, Jonatan!]] : [[Salu, Jon!]] : [[Salut Jonathan!]] : [[Salute, Jonathan!]] : [[Salut, Jonathan! (Interocidental)]] : [[Salut, Jonathan!]] : [[Salut, ionatano!]] : [[Salute, Jonathan! (Novlingue)]] : [[Salute, Jonathan! (Romanica)]] : [[Saluto, Jonathan! (Ido)]] : [[Saluto, Jonathan!]] : [[Sesan Jon!]] : [[Simi, Jonathan!]] : [[Sin Chao, Jonathan!]] : [[Terve, Jonathan!]] : [[Toki a, jan Jonatan!]] : [[Àlŏ, Jonathan!]] : [[Òla, Ionatà!]] There are a couple of issues here: # Beyond their introductions, all of these books are written in languages which are not English, making them out of scope for the English Wikibooks. # All but one of these books are in fact written in constructed languages, most of them in recently created conlangs. In some cases (e.g. [[Sin Chao, Jonathan!]]), I can't find any reliable sources describing the target language outside of the translation itself. # Most of the translations (i.e. other than [[Salute, Jonathan!]] itself) were abandoned within the first five or so chapters (out of 100); none of them are complete, and there seems to be little effort to complete any of them. While I recognize that this is an unusual project, and potentially one which could have some value, it's not at all clear to me that the English Wikibooks is the right place for it. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 00:24, 29 September 2024 (UTC) :I'm really not sure what to do about these ones. While I recognize that this approach is certainly one method of teaching a language, I'm not sure that it constitutes an educational textbook. We do require that the English Wikibooks be written in English—for language-learning books, this typically means that the instructional parts are in English while the exercises are in the language being taught. I do think that if the language doesn't have much supporting evidence outside the book itself, it can safely be deleted. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:01, 29 September 2024 (UTC) :Author of the book here. I originally wanted to put it in the Interlingue Wikibooks https://ie.wikibooks.org/wiki/Principal_p%C3%A1gine but it somehow got locked when I wasn't paying attention and so I ended up putting it here. Getting it unlocked requires going through the process of starting an Incubator and all the rest so I opted for here and then started putting some English-only content once it was done. It's sort of in the same vein as books like Lingua Latina per se Illustrata that have separate versions with teacher notes and whatnot. [[Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 1 - with notes]] After it was done the auxlang community really took to it which was a nice surprise. I think Ido has the largest number of chapters at the moment at 15. :If the vast content of this book could be used to justify a quick reopening of the Interlingue Wikibooks to move it there, I'd love to do that. I imagine that an incubator with 100+ book chapters would be enough to open a Wikibooks and that's what this is. :[[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 06:02, 29 September 2024 (UTC) :Ah, I just realized that we do have a proposal to reopen the Interlingue Wikibooks: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikibooks_Interlingue along with an Incubator page here. https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wb/ie/Principal_p%C3%A1gine :How easy would it be to migrate the entirety of Salute Jonathan to there? [[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 06:30, 29 September 2024 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]]! I'm not sure how incubator projects work, but I fully support migrating these books there. You may want to inquire over there and link to this discussion to support your request to move the content over there. Cheers! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:16, 29 September 2024 (UTC) :::Hi! :::Actually I have a third idea to propose after thinking about this again today (haven't been here much since I finished the book): I noticed that there is more English content than I remember and that might make it an awkward fit for the Interlingue Wikibooks. I definitely agree that having all the auxlang translations for new auxlang projects goes well beyond the scope of this Wikibooks. Finally, there are some auxlangs that are notable with their own Wikipedias. :::So the idea is the following: :::1 Leave the original here and I can continue the work on the version with English notes and grammar. That will make it the same as Lingua Latina per se Illustrata, English by the Nature Method, Athenaze and all the rest. :::2 The Interlingua one can move to the Interlingua Wikibooks (maybe Romanica too if they want as it is sort of a dialect of Interlingua). :::3 For Ido and Lingua Franca Nova which have a Wikipedia but not a Wikibooks, I'm a little bit unsure...technically they could have their own version like the original one but would require English explanations. I could let them know and see if they are willing to do so and see what they think (work on adding English to the books vs. move the content elsewhere). :::4 The rest can move to a Github repo, then be deleted, and the front page of this book can have a single link to the repo. :::Any thoughts on that? Adding the extra English content will be easy as it is my book and I know it inside and out. Edit: [https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Salute,_Jonathan!/Grammar_(pronouns) this page] I just added. :::[[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 13:50, 29 September 2024 (UTC) ::::Thanks for taking the time to consider this! Here are my responses/questions: ::::* Is the original [[Salute, Jonathan!]] (Occidental)? Since that one is quite fleshed out, I agree that if you edit it so the primary language of the book (e.g. headers, instructions, etc) are written in English while leaving the actual story in Occidental, it would be okay and fit in more with instructional language textbooks. ::::* For your points 2 and 3, I'm not sure how those other projects work, so I'll leave it up to them. I'm not quite sure why they would need to move, since in theory they could be revised with English as the language of instruction? Although, they have been left incomplete for a long time. ::::* For your point 4, I have no problem with that. ::::Cheers! –[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:51, 29 September 2024 (UTC) :::::Hello again, :::::It's the weekend so I have a bit more time to work on this. I've decided to merge the extra content from the following five chapters since the difference is fairly small and the original chapters should now have this English content. Could you delete these five pages now that they are no longer needed? [[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 14:02, 5 October 2024 (UTC) :::::[[Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 1 - with notes]] :::::[[Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 2 - with notes]] :::::[[Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 3 - with notes]] :::::[[Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 4 - with notes]] :::::[[Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 5 - with notes]] [[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 14:02, 5 October 2024 (UTC) ::::::[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Done'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:34, 5 October 2024 (UTC) :::::::Hi again! No luck trying to find a home for the random language translations on other auxlang wikis, can't find one that is actively maintained. :::::::The thought struck me that maybe I could just put those ones on a sub page of my user page, would that be permitted? If not, I think I'll just stick them somewhere in GitHub and call it a day since none of the people who started the translations seem to care enough to do anything about them. I'd rather not see them outright disappear but since they aren't mine I don't care enough about them to do much more work than copy and paste them somewhere. :::::::(I would leave the ones in languages with an ISO-639 code and Wikipedia here, of course) :::::::[[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 14:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC) ::::::::Thank you for checking! I don't personally see an issue with moving them to your user space right now. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 17:21, 9 November 2024 (UTC) :::::::::Thanks a lot! I've started a single page where I will put them all here [[User:Mithridates/SJ]] and will proceed slowly due to lack of time and also to avoid stepping on any toes / asking you to delete too much at a time and possibly deleting the wrong content. :::::::::For this week I have put the content for the languages Audia, Cristianès, Guosa, Lingaust, Mini, Mirad, and Monav on that page as they all have a single page of content and didn't take much time to move. Please delete those. Once they are gone I will add a note on the main page letting people know where they have gone (in addition to a thank you for their interest in the book! I do love how many people have recognized it as a good source material for teaching a language). [[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] ([[User talk:Mithridates|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mithridates|contribs]]) 04:09, 10 November 2024 (UTC) :{{Keep}} the translations for languages that have an article on the English Wikipedia, i.e. Guosa, Idiom Neutral, Ido, Interlingua, Lingwa de Planeta, Negerhollands, Neo, Novial, Occidental, Romanica, Solresol, Toki Pona, and Volapük. :Translations for languages that don't have an article can be kept if they have reliable sources, which I was able to find for the following languages (if you think they are not reliable, please let me know): :* Globasa: [https://www.languagesandnumbers.com/how-to-count-in-globasa/en/globasa/] [https://greyson.conlang.org/2020/01/29/shouting-out-globasa-and-pandunia/] :* Mini: [https://jprogr.github.io/mini] [https://www.omniglot.com/language/phrases/mini.htm] [https://www.languagesandnumbers.com/how-to-count-in-mini/en/mini/] :{{Del}} and move to [[User:Mithridates/SJ]] the rest of the translations, i.e. Audià/Audian, Cristianés, Ekumenski, Germanisch, Interocidental, Lingaust, Lingue Simple, Masa Tang, Mirad, Monav, Monkel, Mundeze, Nordien, Novlingue, Numo, Proyo, and Scuian/Meteza. If you can find reliable sources for those languages, please let me know. :In particular, I could not find resources for Audià/Audian and Monav after searching through 15 and 17 pages on Google, respectively. It doesn't help that [[Òla, Ionatà!|their]] [[Hai, Jon!|translations]] don't explain what those languages are and where to find resources for them. This makes contributing to those translations almost impossible until @[[User:Caro de Segeda|Caro de Segeda]] can provide resources to us. It's possible that the resources may have disappared from the Internet, or that those languages were created by Caro de Segeda him/herself. If you can find resources for Audià/Audian and Monav, please let me know. :I'm notifying the primary contributors of the translations: @[[User:Caro de Segeda|Caro de Segeda]], @[[User:Frzzl|Frzzl]], @[[User:Greatscotteh|Greatscotteh]], @[[User:IHateNumbers234|IHateNumbers234]], @[[User:Jayeless2|Jayeless2]], @[[User:Morozof|Morozof]], @[[User:Omnihom|Omnihom]], @[[User:Omoutuazn|Omoutuazn]], @[[User:PovriNaivon|PovriNaivon]], @[[User:Sir Beluga|Sir Beluga]] and @[[User:Tyoyafud|Tyoyafud]]. [[User:EJPPhilippines|EJPPhilippines]] ([[User talk:EJPPhilippines|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/EJPPhilippines|contribs]]) 09:52, 30 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Wooden Boats: Building and Repair]] == Abandoned almost 2 decades; a few pages, but each has only a few lines of text. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:46, 7 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Stellar Scintillation]] == Extremely narrow scope that I don't think is quite book-worthy, especially given the low amount of content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC) == [[IB Spanish]] == Abandoned 2 decades; seems like an idea for a book that was never actually implemented (minimal meaningful content) —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:55, 7 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Competitive Programming]] == Survived deletion previously on the justification that it could potentially be expanded, but it's since been over a decade with no improvement; extremely minimal educational content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:03, 7 October 2024 (UTC) == Pages by [[User:TheoYalur]] == {{closed| closed complete —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)}} * [[Henri Poincaré Reader]] * [[The Sight and Sound of the Greek Genocide Around the Kültürpark in Izmir]] * [[God Disorder]] These pages all appear to be personal essays, not educational texts. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 03:53, 14 October 2024 (UTC) :They are all original research. The editor asked to be unblocked so they could move to Wikiversity where OR is permitted. As they have now returned to creating these dubious pages, I have blocked them again and deleted the most recent creation as out of scope original research. The "reader" might be acceptable. [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 12:37, 14 October 2024 (UTC) ::Thanks @[[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]]! I'm not sure about [[Henri Poincaré Reader]] since it has NPOV issues and it reads like a self-published essay piece with personal hypothesizing/opinion/research, no references, etc. Its educational scope is still somewhat unclear, as is the structure—it does not seem textbook-like in form or style. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 15:43, 14 October 2024 (UTC) :::You spent more time reading it than me I suspect. I only skimmed it, but I am sure you are right that it has the same issues as the other creations and should be deleted. [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 16:14, 14 October 2024 (UTC) ::::With regard to the "Reader", at best it's a collection of loosely translated excerpts of texts which, for the most part, already have quality translations available on Wikisource. For instance, the section [[Henri Poincaré Reader#The Measure of Time (1898)]] is already translated as [[:s:The Foundations of Science/The Value of Science/Chapter 2]]. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 20:39, 14 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[User:גני טווילרי]] == {{closed| closed complete —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)}} Please delete a redirection page of the former user page, which was not active in the En Wikibooks. Thank you. [[User:לובר|לובר]] ([[User talk:לובר|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/לובר|contribs]]) 02:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC) :{{re|לובר}} {{done}} though in the future please use {{tl|speedy}} for such deletions. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 10:53, 16 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Cyber Guide to ODU Career Management]] == As best I can tell, this was intended at one point to be an internal resource for employees of an ODU (Old Dominion University) career office; what little of it exists is primarily focused on minutae irrelevant to anyone outside that office, like [[Cyber Guide to ODU Career Management/Get Oriented/How we do it|who to email to schedule an information session]] or a collection of [[Cyber Guide to ODU Career Management/Get Up-to-Date/CAP Meeting|meeting notes]]. It's also all been essentially untouched since 2007. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 18:49, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :[[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' per stated reasoning —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:11, 18 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Golf]] == Extremely minimal content; educational/book scope is unclear; abandoned for >1 decade. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:15, 18 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Counterterror Joint Command]] == {{closed|Deleted. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 03:01, 20 June 2025 (UTC)}} Unclear how this falls into WB scope—doesn't seem to be an educational book, and educational scope is undefined; abandoned as well —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:17, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - this is perplexing; it's written like a policy proposal on behalf of an agency, not a textbook. From context I ''think'' it's about the [[:w:National Police Agency (Taiwan)]], but it's entirely unclear whether this was intended as an official report or some sort of weird fan fiction. Either way, it doesn't belong here. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 19:31, 18 October 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Flight Attendant Manual]] == Abandoned almost 2 decades; consists only of a list of country codes and the phonetic alphabet. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:19, 18 October 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:58, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[History of the ODU Art Department]] == A collection of fragmentary biographies and interviews of members of the ODU (Old Dominion University) art department. Some of these are individually interesting, I guess, but they don't really add up to a history of the department, let alone to an instructional text. Most editing activity appears to have been around 2008-09; there's almost no activity since then. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 19:22, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :{{comment}} I have to agree here. And, issues with the book's suitability for inclusion here have been raised on the talk page since its beginning. I'm concerned that this ultimately violates [[WB:WIW]], and I can't see it being properly developed at this point. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:46, 21 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Understanding the National Certificate of Educational Achievement]] == Scope unclear; very little content; abandoned >1 decade —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:30, 18 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Release Management]] == Abandoned almost 2 decades; very little content; unclear what its scope as a book is —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:11, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - release management is a potentially worthy topic, but this isn't useful even as a starting point. The landscape has changed quite a bit in the last 20 years. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 16:31, 24 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Management for IT Professionals]] == Minimal content; book scope unclear; abandoned almost 2 decades —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:13, 18 October 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:57, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Living in Bangkok]] == Minimal content; consists of single chapter that contains likely outdated information —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:14, 18 October 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:57, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Limburgish]] == Abandoned; single chapter with minimal content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:19, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :In general, I think deletion not solve anything. While the contents is minimal, it's still better than nothing at all. Rather, an invitation should be made to expand on it. --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|Ooswesthoesbes]] ([[User talk:Ooswesthoesbes|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ooswesthoesbes|contribs]]) 06:27, 19 October 2024 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|Ooswesthoesbes]]! While I understand your perspective, I unfortunately disagree. Wikibooks has a huge number of abandoned stubs like this one, which I think results in clutter and makes the entire project less useful as a result. Due to their nature and structure, books require a greater committed investment to make than, say, WP articles, and these little scraps are rarely developed here. This book has had plenty of opportunity for expansion since you started it over a decade ago, but nobody has actually made any effort to do so. Based on the evidence from the past decade, when weighing the likelihood of the book being properly developed going forward versus the active negative impact of its continued presence in this state, I favor deletion. Moreover, in the rare case that someone came along later and wanted to revive this book specifically, it could be undeleted. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Introduction to BASIC]] == Consists only of a few paragraphs and then a compilation of links —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:22, 18 October 2024 (UTC) == [[International Baccalaureate]] == Not actually a book in and of itself; rather, it is just a compilation of links to other books —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:24, 18 October 2024 (UTC) : Could this be salvaged as a shelf? [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 05:23, 27 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Basketball]] == Abandoned almost 2 decades; doesn't contain much beyond what you'd find in a WP article —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:41, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :I love the game, but yes, this has no real content. That said, there's little danger in keeping it and it could plausibly be improved, so I'm '''weak keep'''. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 22:33, 3 November 2024 (UTC) *{{vd}} We can't just rely on [[User:Someone Else]] to come – and on a project as small as this, that [[User:Someone Else]] is more or less never likely to come. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 10:33, 24 November 2024 (UTC) == [[Bug Free Programming]] == Unclear how exactly this constitutes an educational book; scope is unclear —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:45, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :Wow, I didn't even remember this one. I think it's perfectly clear how this is educational and the scope couldn't be clearer, either, but I'm not going to finish it so go ahead and delete it. [[User:Főszerkesztő Úr|Főszerkesztő Úr]] ([[User talk:Főszerkesztő Úr|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Főszerkesztő Úr|contribs]]) 12:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Character List for Baxter&Sagart]] == Seems completely out of scope as an educational book; it's just a list of characters and outlinks —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :Adding [[Character List for Karlgren's GSR]] and [[Character List for Schuessler's CGSR]] for the same reason —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:55, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :These three books do make a package and I agree they should be considered together. However, I strongly object to deleting them. They are really extremely useful resources. I use them every week and I know that many people who do work on Old Chinese phonology do so. There are lots of books out there that are lists of characters, these are called dictionaries. For example Axel Schuessler's ABC Etymological Dictionary of Old Chinese, or Pulleyblank's Lexicon of Reconstructed Pronunciation in Early Middle Chinese, Late Middle Chinese, and Early Mandarin. I see it as entirely a good thing for reference works of this kind to be available free online rather than only in expensive books in university research libraries. If this is in violation of a Wikibooks policy, I would at least like that policy to be drawn to my attention and to have some constructive comment offered about which Wikiproject such a resource should fall under. I will also say on a personal note that I have put literally hundreds of hours of work into these projects and it would grieve me a lot to see this work simply vanish, in particular when I know that colleagues around the world use these books. --[[User:Tibetologist|Tibetologist]] ([[User talk:Tibetologist|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tibetologist|contribs]]) 07:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Tibetologist|Tibetologist]], and thank you for the feedback! Official Wikibooks policy does not permit standalone dictionaries (see [[WB:DICT]]), though I understand the argument that it is a useful resource. I am wondering if there might be a home for it at [[Wiktionary:Wiktionary:Welcome, newcomers|Wiktionary]] or [[Wikiversity:Wikiversity:SHARE|Wikiversity]]? Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:14, 1 November 2024 (UTC) :::The policy says to use Wiktionary, but these books cannot be moved there. In fact they link there, you can understand me as having made an index to wiktionary, if you like, where the ORDER of the characters is extremely important, information that would be lost in Wiktionary. :::Wikiversity is not a project I participate in, and in any event my books here are older than it, so this option was not available for me at the relevant moment. If you are offering to move my books to Wikiversity, that is very kind of you and I will very graciously accept. [[User:Tibetologist|Tibetologist]] ([[User talk:Tibetologist|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tibetologist|contribs]]) 14:10, 1 November 2024 (UTC) ::::I have pinged over at Wikiversity Colloquium to ask about suitability and have looped you into the conversation over there. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:20, 1 November 2024 (UTC) :Per [[:v:Wikiversity:Colloquium#Import_Resource_From_Wikibooks?]], I recommend copying and pasting, including attribution via the edit summary and talk page, add appropriate categories and links, and then it could be deleted locally. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 22:32, 3 November 2024 (UTC) == [[Citroën XM]] == Abandoned >1 decade; very minimal content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:57, 18 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Happiness]] == Significant NPOV issues; not much content; abandoned for >1 decade —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:58, 18 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Islamic Studies Grade 1]] == Abandoned >1 decade with very little content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:03, 19 October 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - the table of contents makes it clear that this book was intended to house POV religious content (e.g. a chapter titled "Allah Is The One"). This is incompatible with [[WB:NPOV]]. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 01:12, 20 October 2024 (UTC) == [[Suomen kieli käyttöön]] == Multiple pages in this book are written entirely in Finnish, which is out of the enWB scope. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:09, 19 October 2024 (UTC) :I was going to say whether we should ask any fiwikibooks sysop to maybe see if this could be transwikied to fiwb if it's within the scope there. But [[:fi:Toiminnot:Käyttäjät/sysop]] indicates that there are only 3 sysops, and only {{u|Anr}} and {{u|Zache}} have made edits this ''year''. If they deem it to be salvageable, then transwiki + delete, otherwise straight-up delete. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 11:24, 14 November 2024 (UTC) ::It seems that the idea behind the book was for the pages to be bilingual, as it’s a language learning book. That’s why there are Finnish texts included intentionally even on the pages that are complete. There are similar books in dewikibooks and ruwikibooks as well. For the English version, I think the easiest way to proceed would be to clean up and adjust the page layout to fit enwikibooks better, and then translate the missing parts. By the way, if anyone wants to update the book’s name in English, it can be titled ''"Using the Finnish Language"'' or ''"Put Finnish Language into Use"'' for a direct translation. [[User:Zache|Zache]] ([[User talk:Zache|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zache|contribs]]) 11:57, 14 November 2024 (UTC) == Several pages in [[Hobo tourism]] and [[Hobo travel journalism]] == The following pages are entirely self-promotional content that is suitable for a blog but not WB (same contributor made the [[Wikibooks:Requests for deletion#Various pages in Basics of fine-art photography|now-deleted pages from above]]). * [[Hobo tourism/Third creative trip of Viktor Pinchuk to Africa]] * [[Hobo tourism/Third African trip]] * [[Hobo tourism/Visiting Death]] * [[Hobo tourism/One day in an Afghan prison]] * [[Hobo tourism/Around the world with empty pockets]] * [[Hobo tourism/Indian dreams]] * [[Hobo tourism/Two months of wandering and 14 days behind bars]] * [[Hobo tourism/Holiday of wandering mzungu]] * [[Hobo tourism/Afghan prisoner]] * [[Hobo tourism/Two hundred days in Latin America]] * [[Hobo tourism/Mongolian huyvaldagch]] * [[Hobo tourism/Six months by islands... and countries]] * [[Hobo tourism/Viktor Pinchuk's expedition to the Islands of Oceania]] * [[Hobo tourism/Viktor Pinchuk's solo expedition to Africa (2017/18)]] * [[Hobo tourism/Latin American expedition of Viktor Pinchuk]] * [[Hobo tourism/Bum tour of winter Japan]] * [[Hobo tourism/Afghan Expedition of Viktor Pinchuk]] * [[Hobo tourism/Second creative trip of Viktor Pinchuk to Africa]] * [[Hobo tourism/Creative trip to Mongolia]] * [[Hobo tourism/Creative trip to India]] * [[Hobo tourism/First creative trip of Viktor Pinchuk to Africa]] * [[Hobo tourism/Tropical fever in the bum tour (an example from practice)]] * [[Hobo tourism/African Robbery]] * [[Hobo travel journalism/With a backpack around the planet (rubric in the newspaper “Southern Capital”)]] * [[Hobo travel journalism/Returning from distant wanderings (rubric in the newspaper "Republic of Crimea")]] * [[Hobo travel journalism/Wind of wanderings (rubric in the newspaper "Crimean Time")]] * [[Hobo travel journalism/Around the World (rubric in the newspaper "Crimean Observer")]] * [[Hobo travel journalism/Travel notes (rubric in the ProX magazine)]] —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:01, 24 October 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - I would support deleting the entire book, not just these chapters. Even aside from the self-promotional content listed above, other chapters give some ''extremely questionable'' advice on sleeping arrangements, such as: :* Trespassing on private property ([[Hobo tourism/Overnight stays in long intercontinental journeys/In halls and stairwells]]; [[Hobo tourism/Overnight stays in long intercontinental journeys/On objects under construction]]) :* Sleeping inside archaeological sites ([[Hobo tourism/Overnight stays in long intercontinental journeys/In the ancient pyramid]]) :* Harassing locals if they don't let you into their house ([[Hobo tourism/Overnight stays in long intercontinental journeys/In Aboriginal dwellings]] - "independently knock on any dwelling, asking for a place under a canopy in the yard; with a negative result, repeating the action repeatedly") :[[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 04:45, 25 October 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} Agree with above. Delete all.--[[User:Xania|Xania]] [[Image:Flag_of_Estonia.svg|15px]] [[Image:Flag_of_Ukraine.svg|15px]] [[User talk:Xania|<sup>talk</sup>]] 03:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC) ::These articles have many internal links from English-language Wikinews. Removing the material would harm the news articles and the project as a whole. — [[User:Виктор Пинчук|Виктор Пинчук]] ([[User talk:Виктор Пинчук|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Виктор Пинчук|contribs]]) 15:55, 10 November 2024 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:Виктор Пинчук|Виктор Пинчук]]—while I understand your concern, I'm fairly certain that being linked to is not an acceptable justification in policy or otherwise for content that is inappropriate for Wikibooks in the first place. If that were the case, vandalism or other inappropriate material could be kept simply because it is linked to somewhere else. If consensus says that these pages don't belong at Wikibooks due to the unsuitability of the content, I think that decision will stand independently. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 17:28, 10 November 2024 (UTC) :::Vandalism is a harmful and unproductive change for the project. But what is reviewed by administrators (precisely administrators, not one administrator) of English-language news cannot be compared to vandalism. Such an example is inappropriate. — [[User:Виктор Пинчук|Виктор Пинчук]] ([[User talk:Виктор Пинчук|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Виктор Пинчук|contribs]]) 19:11, 10 November 2024 (UTC) :::Then that is an issue which Wikinews can deal with. Wikibooks is its own project, and can make its own decisions about the suitability of content. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:06, 10 November 2024 (UTC) ::::Wikibooks is harming Wikinews, and that's its problem. Well, that's fine. <br>However, I want to say that any paper textbook can be supplemented with optional material containing examples on the topic from the author's personal practice. It can be published as a separate brochure or included in a paper textbook. Who wants to — reads, does not want — does not read.They probably haven't heard about it in the English section...— [[User:Виктор Пинчук|Виктор Пинчук]] ([[User talk:Виктор Пинчук|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Виктор Пинчук|contribs]]) 16:32, 12 November 2024 (UTC) ::::: Это живой и рабочий проект, Виктор. И вы разговариваете с двумя администраторами. Ваши самопиарки поудаляют вскорости, смиритесь. — Ирука<sup>[[user:Iruka13|13]]</sup> 19:45, 12 November 2024 (UTC) : {{vd}} I put [[:ru:wb:К_удалению/Июль_2023#статьи_из_Категория:Книги_русского_путешественника_Виктора_Пинчука_--|half of these articles on ruBooks for deletion a year ago]]. Alas, ruBooks are more dead than alive. — Ирука<sup>[[user:Iruka13|13]]</sup> 19:45, 12 November 2024 (UTC) == files from Phoenix Wright == Used for decorative, not educational, purposes ([[WB:NFCC]]#8): [[:File:AAIME Official Artwork.jpg]], [[:File:PWAAJFA episode1.png]], [[:File:PW JFA Official Artwork.jpg]], [[:File:Gyakuten Kenji 2 Official Artwork.png]], [[:File:AJ officialart.jpg]], [[:File:PW T&T Official Artwork.jpg]], [[:File:SMB2 dream staircase art.jpg]]. Galleries ([[WB:NFCC]]#3): [[:File:Moonflow 27.jpg]], [[:File:Macalania 18.jpg]], [[:File:Chauncey LM.jpg]] , [[:File:King Boo LM.jpg]], [[:File:Boolossus LM.jpg]]. — Ирука<sup>[[user:Iruka13|13]]</sup> 16:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC) :My thoughts below: :* [[:File:AAIME Official Artwork.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:PWAAJFA episode1.png]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:PW JFA Official Artwork.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:Gyakuten Kenji 2 Official Artwork.png]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:AJ officialart.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:PW T&T Official Artwork.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:SMB2 dream staircase art.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Delete''' purely decorative :* [[:File:Moonflow 27.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Keep''' low resolution and seems to be illustrating something :* [[:File:Macalania 18.jpg]] Uncertain :* [[:File:Chauncey LM.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Keep''' seems to be actually illustrating something :* [[:File:King Boo LM.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Keep''' seems to be actually illustrating something :* [[:File:Boolossus LM.jpg]] [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] '''Keep''' seems to be actually illustrating something :Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:12, 30 October 2024 (UTC) == [[A Summary of Theology and Thought in Messianic Judaism]] == Abandoned >1 decade; little to no meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:25, 13 November 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:55, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[SEAWORLD CHRISTMAS CELEBRATION 2021-PRESENT]] == {{closed| closed complete —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:37, 24 December 2024 (UTC)}} CSD contested by author twice--reasons given were "Test page" and "No useful content." Courtesy pings: {{u|Xeverything11}}, {{u|Ternera}}. [[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] ([[User talk:JJPMaster|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|contribs]]) 22:54, 27 November 2024 (UTC) :{{not done|Not undeleted}} What the IP created is out-of-scope for Wikibooks. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 08:17, 28 November 2024 (UTC) ::[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Done'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} I'm pretty sure this was a delete request, and it was brought here because the original editor kept removing the speedy deletion tag! I already completed it :) —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:29, 29 November 2024 (UTC) :::<span class="template-ping">@[[:User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]], [[:User:SHB2000|SHB2000]]:</span> Yeah, I didn't want to edit war over keeping the CSD tag, so I RfD'd it to play it safe. [[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] ([[User talk:JJPMaster|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|contribs]]) 18:32, 30 November 2024 (UTC) ::::oh, right cool – cheers for making a request here. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 19:26, 30 November 2024 (UTC) {{end closed}} == NVQ Carpentry books == * [[NVQ Carpentry Level 2]] * [[NVQ Carpentry Level 3]] These pages are both largely unformatted lists of test questions and answers pertaining to UK carpentry training programs (cf. [[:w:National Vocational Qualification]]). They are not written as books, and would take a major effort to transform into appropriate training materials for the associated coursework, rather than the "cheat sheets" they are now. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 18:14, 13 December 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:54, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[AvernumScript]] == This book is a copydump of the Blades of Avernum documentation, which is not freely licensed. (The original documentation is available at [http://www.avernum.com/blades/scen_workshop.html], in the "Blades of Avernum Editor" download, as "BoA Editor Docs v12.pdf".) [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 18:33, 13 December 2024 (UTC) :If it's a copyvio, I think we can speedy delete it. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 03:23, 16 December 2024 (UTC) == [[WikiLang]] == * [[WikiLang]] * about 70 subpages; see [[Special:PrefixIndex/WikiLang/]] for a full list * [[Transwiki:WikiLang/Gothic alphabet/𐌰]] * [[Transwiki:WikiLang/Jeju]] * [[Transwiki:WikiLang/Plattdüütsch Phonology]] These pages were imported from [[:m:WikiLang]] in 2021 for unclear reasons. It was originally a proposal for a new Wikimedia project which was rejected in 2017. The main page still contains the project proposal from meta, and the subpages contain a mishmash of encyclopedic content (e.g. [[WikiLang/Africa]]), word lists (e.g. [[WikiLang/Blackfoot/Animals]]), and miscellaneous project content (e.g. [[WikiLang/Media]], [[WikiLang/News]], etc). While the goals of this project may be laudable, this material doesn't add up to a book, and [[WB:NOTMETA|Wikibooks is not a launchpad for new Wikimedia projects]]. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:05, 13 December 2024 (UTC) : See [[m:Meta:Requests_for_deletion/Archives/2021#WikiLang_pages]]. This also already exists on Wikiversity as [[v:Portal:Wikilang]]. I guess we don't need both. [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 19:15, 11 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Transwiki:Bypassing the Great Firewall of China]] == This content was imported from Wikipedia about 18 years ago (!), but never found a home in any existing book. Given its extreme age, the instructions on this page are no longer relevant or useful; the Tor Project has more up-to-date content on the topic on its own web site. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 00:02, 15 December 2024 (UTC) :If it's out of date, not useful, and not part of any other book, I can't see a good reason for keeping it. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 03:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC) : {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:53, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Transwiki:Easy Hydroponics Feeding]] == This reads like a promotional article for a brand of plant food ("Maxsea"). Even if we had an appropriate book to merge this into, this wouldn't belong in it. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 00:05, 15 December 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} per listed reasons. It does seem suspiciously like promotional material. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 03:25, 16 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Anglese]] == A very incomplete lexicon (consisting of about a dozen words) for what appears to be a constructed language. Even if this were a real language, which it doesn't appear to be, it'd belong on Wiktionary, not here. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 21:26, 16 December 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:52, 23 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} per stated reasoning. Extremely small amount of content, not well-defined as book. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:27, 24 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Adam Curylo's Python]] == A small collection of a user's Python programs and notes on external resources. This isn't useful as a book (as it's almost entirely source code); we have multiple books like [[Python Programming]] on the topic already. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 21:26, 16 December 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} Wikibooks is not GitHub. [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:52, 23 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} per stated reasoning —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:28, 24 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Teaching Social Studies in Virtual Space]] == Abandoned; no substantial content since the book was created in 2011. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 05:26, 17 December 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} A lot of meta-content but no actual content. [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:52, 23 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Template:Ncd]] == Unnecessary hardcoded instance of {{tlx|Now Commons}}. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 05:13, 22 December 2024 (UTC) * {{vd}} Unused legacy import. [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 03:51, 23 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} or redirect to the new template. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:47, 21 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Proposed New Characters: The Pipeline]] == A couple issues with this one: * The book scope is unclear, and there has been no engagement with the query flag. * I'm concerned that this is part of the long-term vandalism we've been having with unicode-related materials. See the following discussions for some context: ** [[Wikibooks:Reading_room/Administrative_Assistance/Archives/2023/April#Please_check_sockpuppets_editing_Unicode/Versions| Please check sockpuppets editing Unicode/Versions (April 2023)]] ** [[Wikibooks:Reading_room/Administrative_Assistance/Archives/2023/July#Unicode/Versions|Unicode/Versions (July 2023)]] **[[Wikibooks:Reading_room/Administrative_Assistance/Archives/2024/August#Special:Contributions/2405:204:0:0:0:0:0:0/32_and_w:Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1157#IP_editor_adds_unsourced_content_to_JP_writing_system_articles|IP editor adds unsourced content to JP writing system articles (August 2024)]] ** [[Wikibooks:Reading_room/Administrative_Assistance/Archives/2024/August#CU_request|CU request (August 2024)]] —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:14, 29 December 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - this is a mixture of copy/pasted content from the Unicode web site and made-up nonsense. [https://unicode.org/versions/Unicode17.0.0/ Unicode 17.0 is currently a draft], and is likely to be released in September '''2025''' (not 2024 as stated on this page). The remainder of the page appears to be conflating accepted Unicode proposals, pending proposals, and unofficial assignments (e.g. for constructed scripts); the result is an incomprehensible mess. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 20:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC) :{{vd}} - definitely doesn't seem to fit. <sup>&#8212; [[User:L10nM4st3r|<span style="color:#c71300">L10nM4st3r</span>]]</sup> / <sub>[[User talk:L10nM4st3r|<span style="color:#ce3f00">'''ROAR''' at me!</span>]]</sub> 15:23, 15 January 2025 (UTC) == [[AT&T Mobility FAQ]] == * [[AT&T Mobility FAQ]] * [[AT&T Mobility FAQ/MEdia Net Configuration]] * [[AT&T Mobility FAQ/Data Connect Configuration]] An ''extremely'' outdated FAQ on AT&T's cell phone services. Most of this document was written 20+ years ago as a Usenet FAQ; very little of it is accurate or useful anymore (particularly the two subpages, which have to do with obsolete configurations for "tethering" a computer to a cell phone). No objection if someone wants to update it, but there's clearly been no appetite to do that. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC) :I'm wondering if it might make sense for us to develop some kind of policy on archiving books here. There are many like this one that have a good deal of content but are extremely out of date and just not useful as originally intended. ——[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:34, 30 December 2024 (UTC) ::@[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]]: See the newly developed [[Wikibooks:Outdated books]]. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 00:16, 31 December 2024 (UTC) :::Ooh, thanks - something like that seems like it could be an appropriate way to handle this book. A lot of the other outdated books I've tagged have been so incomplete that they wouldn't have been particularly useful even as historical references; this one might at least have some interest. :::Any chance we can get a separate namespace (maybe "Archive:") set up for archived book content? That'd make it possible to do things like exclude them from on-site search by default. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 21:07, 31 December 2024 (UTC) ::::I think this might be a more extended discussion, so I'll bump it over to the [[Wikibooks talk:Outdated books|talk page of the draft policy]]! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:54, 31 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Install osDate]] == Single-page book on how to install a piece of software which, as far as I can tell, is no longer available anywhere. This doesn't feel like a great candidate for archiving, as it's largely repeating instructions which were almost certainly included in the software installer - there's no unique insight worth saving here. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 01:48, 1 January 2025 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 19:18, 13 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Skript+]] == This book is about a scripting language made by the main contributor (who did all but one of the contributions in the whole book). There are, also, NO mentions of "Skript+", excluding random forums discussing a Minecraft mod. The "scripting language" is for ChatGPT. I, personally, do not believe I will ever need to determine the output of a ChatGPT conversation because the purpose of ChatGPT is not to provide a predetermined output. It, also, does not have many features, which makes it practically useless. And new information will not be added because the user is now inactive. It doesn't even mention how to import "Skript+". It even states that it is a concept. A concept cannot be a education resource. [[User:GrammarPoliceOffical|GrammarPoliceOffical]] ([[User talk:GrammarPoliceOffical|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/GrammarPoliceOffical|contribs]]) 03:45, 3 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} for the following reasons: :* Book has been abandoned with very little content; :* Book does not have any real introductory matter or other content explaining it in sufficient detail; :* Cannot find evidence of this scripting language or its adoption anywhere else, and the only contributor explicitly says they invented it; :* As was mentioned, I can't understand how a scripting language is even supposed to work when fed into a large language model like GPT. That's not how scripting or LLMs are designed to work. :—[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:44, 3 January 2025 (UTC) ::Concur. This "scripting language" is entirely imaginary. It's running with the concept that a language model can follow simple instructions, and trying to formalize that behavior into a "language". But there is no such formal language; the language model is just trying to play along with whatever input the user throws at it. Trying to document it is futile. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Learn Polish with This Book]] == Is an empty book. A book for Polish already exists ([[Polish]]). [[User:GrammarPoliceOffical|GrammarPoliceOffical]] ([[User talk:GrammarPoliceOffical|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/GrammarPoliceOffical|contribs]]) 03:55, 3 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} per stated reasons —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:35, 3 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...d6/2. Qg4]] == Obvious queen blunder which has [https://old.chesstempo.com/gamedb/fen/rnbqkbnr/ppp1pppp/3p4/8/4P1Q1/8/PPPP1PPP/RNB1KBNR%20b%20KQkq%20-%201%202 never] been played at master level, and would never be mentioned in a chess opening book. [[User:J Mo 101|J Mo 101]] ([[User talk:J Mo 101|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/J Mo 101|contribs]]) 18:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}}. This is described in [https://en.chessbase.com/post/bust-this-a-philosophical-opening a Chessbase blog post] as "the worst blunder in the opening that does not lead to immediate checkmate", and in [https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/23480/have-engines-refuted-any-established-openings a chess.stackexchange answer] as a "nonsense opening". The intent of this book is to describe common practice, not to enumerate every possible move. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 03:54, 13 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Cookbook talk:Grilled_Cheese_Sandwich]] == {{closed|Resolved —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:48, 21 March 2025 (UTC)}} '''Please note that I am only nominating the talk page for deletion.''' This talk page is a copyright violation. It copies content from an [[WB:BADTRANSWIKI#Unrecoverable bad transwikis|unrecoverable talk page]] from enwiki, and the attribution provided ("Copied talk page from en:Talk:Grilled cheese sandwich") is insufficient, as it fails to account for the GFDL's requirement that "... you must ... Preserve the section Entitled "History", Preserve its Title, and add to it an item stating at least the title, year, new authors, and publisher of the Modified Version as given on the Title Page." The history provided is only of the associated cookbook page, not the talk page itself. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 05:57, 11 January 2025 (UTC) * The signatures of the copied comments provide needed attribution, right? [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 06:06, 11 January 2025 (UTC) *:@[[User:Pppery|Pppery]]: I don't know if that's sufficient, since the page history ("section Entitled 'History'") itself is not included. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 06:13, 11 January 2025 (UTC) *::The [[w:Wikipedia:Volunteer Response Team|Volunteer Response Team]] has confirmed off-wiki that the signature is indeed sufficient attribution. Therefore, {{withdrawn}}. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 15:18, 12 January 2025 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[My Preferences When Meeting New Friends]] == Probably doesn't fit into wikibooks, looks to be more of an opinionated book. <sup>&#8212; [[User:L10nM4st3r|<span style="color:#c71300">L10nM4st3r</span>]]</sup> / <sub>[[User talk:L10nM4st3r|<span style="color:#ce3f00">'''ROAR''' at me!</span>]]</sub> 09:43, 16 January 2025 (UTC) == [[Co-Life]] == This appears to be documentation for an internal web application at the National Center for High-performance Computing in Taiwan which is no longer online. (It's unclear if it was ever available to the public in the first place, or if it was only available to staff.) Either way, the documentation is of no use to us or anyone. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 03:30, 17 January 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} per stated reasoning. There's very little content, and it just doesn't seem useful or worth preserving to me. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:03, 7 February 2025 (UTC) == Mandarin edition of the OpenSSH wikibook is an abandoned fragment and not based on the actual book == The Chinese edition of the OpenSSH wikibook is only a tiny fragment of a single page which has remained abandoned since 2017. Furthermore, the text which it contains is not even based on the actual book. Please tidy things up by deleting the [https://zh.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH Chinese OpenSSH book page] and removing all links to it, if any, which are found on the main book. Thanks. If the page cannot be deleted, please at least remove the link to it from the English edition of the [https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH OpenSSH book]. Thanks again. — [[User:Larsnooden|Larsnooden]] ([[User talk:Larsnooden|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Larsnooden|contribs]]) 09:53, 28 January 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Larsnooden|Larsnooden]] We cannot do the first one (you'll need to bring it up directly with the zh.wikibooks users), and the second one is also difficult, because the interwiki links are actually hosted on Wikidata and I am not sure if we can remove a link for this reason. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 12:30, 28 January 2025 (UTC) ::I understand. Have I marked the page correctly for deletion there? If so, will it eventually be processed by the zh.wikibooks commmunity? — [[User:Larsnooden|Larsnooden]] ([[User talk:Larsnooden|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Larsnooden|contribs]]) 13:41, 28 January 2025 (UTC) :::It looks like a deletion discussion has been created; however, it also looks like there's very little activity on the discussion page, with some discussions having been open for several years. So I wouldn't hold my breath. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 01:15, 4 February 2025 (UTC) == [[Rc]] == There are precisely zero links to this cross-namespace redirect that didn't work at the time of creation. I converted it into a soft redirect instead of RfDing thinking that that could break links, before realizing that there are none. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 04:47, 5 February 2025 (UTC) * {{vd}} [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 04:56, 21 March 2025 (UTC) == Algebra/Chapter 10/Symmetric Polynomials == I personally believe that [[Algebra/Chapter 10/Symmetric Polynomials|this]], and all of the sections should be deleted for the fact that this goes WAY beyond the scope of what was intended for the Chapter (Algebra II level polynomials). [[User:GoreyCat|GoreyCat]] ([[User talk:GoreyCat|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/GoreyCat|contribs]]) 15:07, 6 February 2025 (UTC) :'''Split''': Deletion here is not the best solution (see [[w:WP:ATD]]). Instead, this page and its subpages should be moved to another book, most likely [[Abstract Algebra]]. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 17:35, 6 February 2025 (UTC) :{{keep}} since there is a good amount of content. If [[Abstract Algebra]] is appropriate, it seems like a fine idea to move there. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:59, 7 February 2025 (UTC) ::Eh, yeah, I supposed moving it is better. I just don't think it's suitable for where it appears. [[User:GoreyCat|GoreyCat]] ([[User talk:GoreyCat|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/GoreyCat|contribs]]) 01:40, 8 February 2025 (UTC) == [[Change Issues in Curriculum and Instruction]] == This book is a school project with OR that should be moved to Wikiversity. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 03:30, 8 February 2025 (UTC) :I'm not certain this is a good fit for Wikiversity either. It's essentially a collection of student essays written in 2007 on various topics related to education. If this were an active project there'd be more of an argument for moving it, but in its current state I don't think it makes sense to keep. It's hopelessly mired in opinion and often badly outdated; I'm inclined to say the answer will be to {{vd}} it. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:02, 8 February 2025 (UTC) == History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/A == The following pages are also nominated for deletion: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/B https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/C https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/D https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/E https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/F https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/G https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/H https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/I https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/J https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/K https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/L These are now all duplicate pages that were: (1) originally created by @Xeverything11 in Dec 2024 by extracting portion of History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies; (2) then "blanked" (all content removed) by myself in Dec 2024 contemporaneous with discussions with @Kittycataclysmat and @Leaderboard in Reading_room/General (topic: Page Size); (3) then reverted by @JJPMaster in Feb 2025 with a suggestion that the pages needed to be referred for Speedy Deletion here. The individual alphabetical pages are now duplicates and orphans and should be deleted. The original pages have been updated over the last two months and the existence of the duplicate pages serves no purpose and is confusing == [[Introduction to Human Geography]] == Abandoned for multiple years, only one page has any meaningful content, and it's about two paragraphs —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:53, 9 February 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} Seems abandoned and lacks content. --[[User:Xania|Xania]] [[Image:Flag_of_Estonia.svg|15px]] [[Image:Flag_of_Ukraine.svg|15px]] [[User talk:Xania|<sup>talk</sup>]] 03:38, 17 February 2025 (UTC) == [[Plug-in Development for Google Desktop]] == The [[:w:Google Desktop]] software was discontinued in 2011. Neither the application nor its SDK are available anymore (and the software probably wouldn't work even if you obtained a copy), so the information on this page is no longer useful to anyone. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 02:06, 5 March 2025 (UTC) :'''Delete'''. The [[Wikibooks:Deletion policy|deletion policy]] isn't 100% clear on what to do with stuff like this. Because the definition of "meaningful content" can be open to interpretation, in this case, I would argue this page lacks in meaningful content because there is no reason anyone would ever need it anymore, given the fact that Google Desktop is long deprecated. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 11:40, 5 March 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} because there is so little content and organization that it wouldn't really make sense to archive it. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:50, 21 March 2025 (UTC) == [[2009 UIL Spelling Study Manual]] == The 2009 UIL Spelling Competition was over 15 years ago; it's unlikely that this outdated word list would be of use to anyone - especially since it was never completed; the last word defined (in alphabetical order) is "casus belli", and the word list itself stops at "futurity race". I'm not sure the full list is even available anywhere, nor that the study manual would be any more useful even if it were finished. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 02:29, 5 March 2025 (UTC) :'''Delete'''. Clearly abandoned, and lacking in meaningful content. I agree with the nominator that this would be unlikely to be useful even if it were able to be finished. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 11:31, 5 March 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} per stated reasoning. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:51, 21 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Puredyne]] == Development of Puredyne Linux was discontinued in 2012, and the software no longer appears to be available for download anywhere. (An archive of the web site is still up - with a bunch of embedded spam links - but the download links are all dead.) Is this a suitable candidate for archival (cf. [[Wikibooks:Outdated books]]), or should it just be deleted? [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 04:35, 5 March 2025 (UTC) :I'd just archive stuff like this. Looks like a decent bit of work went into it, and you never know when someone might need to use Puredyne for some obscure project. I'd be willing to bet mirrors exist of it somewhere, or someone has it on a drive. If you want to find some stuff worth deleting, comb through [[:Category:Allbooks categories]]. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 11:30, 5 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Laptop Computer Models]] == This book aimed to become a catalog of "all known laptop computer models". Whether this sort of database is even in scope for Wikibooks is questionable. But it's beyond question that the book has failed to achieve its objective - out of the many thousands of models of laptops that have been manufactured, this book only has information on a few dozen, mostly from around 2010 (when it was written). Most of the subpages are incomplete, and there seems to be little interest in improving or updating the book. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 20:09, 17 March 2025 (UTC) * Intuitively or from heart, I would delete the material as per above: it is too underdeveloped and has been so for a long time. However, it is not clear that it matches policy. To address a possible policy problem, I started [[Wikibooks:Reading room/General#Deleting stale stubs]]. The policy states: "In general, keep stubs that can be improved on, but delete stubs that are too narrowly defined or do not have a decent definition of what they are about." --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 09:51, 22 March 2025 (UTC) *:As a matter of policy, I'm fairly certain that a book of this nature would already be out of scope per [[WB:NOTWP]]. If an encyclopedia or dictionary is out of scope as insufficiently "book-like", a catalog like this is only more so. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 20:51, 23 March 2025 (UTC) *:: That seems right: "Wikibooks is not an in-depth encyclopedia on a specific topic nor are pages encyclopedia-formatted articles. Books build knowledge from one page to the next, with interdependency between pages. Books in progress are sometimes organized in an encyclopedic manner until developed into proper books. For an encyclopedia, see our sister project Wikipedia." However, I think this is a bad policy as formulated, in part since it would lead e.g. to deletion of [[Windows Batch Scripting]]. That is to say, I do not think chapters/sections/parts of a book should be required to be integrated, one building on another. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 19:27, 26 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Template:R from move]] == The template in question is not added to redirects that were created after moving a page. In fact, [[:Category:Redirects from moves]] does not exist. Both the template and the documentation contain multiple non-existent templates. This template appears to be an exact copy of the template on [[w:Template:R from move|Wikipedia]]. (except for the hatnote which was moved from the template to the documentation on Wikibooks, unlike Wikipedia; the hatnote was removed from the documentation because the template is not added to redirects that result from page moves) – [[User:TG-article|<span style="color:darkgrey;font-family:monospace">'''TG-ARTICLE'''</span>]] ([[User talk:TG-article|<span style="color:#255373;font-family:monospace">talk</span>]]) 17:20, 19 March 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} - this looks like it was inadvertently pulled in during the 2024 import of {{tl|Isotones}}; see [https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:Log?user=Leaderboard&wpdate=2024-06-08 logs] for details. There's a handful of other unused templates in the Transwiki namespace which transclude this template, which should probably be deleted as well. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 02:57, 20 March 2025 (UTC) : {{vd}} Sigh. [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 04:55, 21 March 2025 (UTC) : {{vd}} per nom. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 10:02, 23 March 2025 (UTC) == [[MediaWiki:Wantedpages]] == Says the special page is disabled. It isn't anymore. [[User:Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|contribs]]) 04:55, 21 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Wikibooks:Ignore all rules]] == The title of this page, created in 2024 without discussion as far as I can see, is a dishonest/Orwellian exhortation. It should ideally be deleted. No honest person, especially administrator, can admonish other editors to ignore all rules. Being driven by good rules is a sign of well administered public wiki that as if anyone can edit. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 19:14, 26 March 2025 (UTC) :{{keep}} as the author of the page. "Ignore all rules" is one of the most fundamental ideals of the Wikimedia movement (see [[meta:Ignore all rules]] for information about it, as well as the interwiki links on [[WB:IAR]]). (Note: I did not become an administrator until after I created the page) [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 03:52, 28 March 2025 (UTC) :: It is not an ideal but rather an anti-ideal. The meta page states: "If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining a project, ignore it." I am a semi-admin/curator in the English Wikiversity, capable of deleting pages; should I follow the quoted meta-rule, I could immediately start deleting bad pages in volume regardless of policies, guidelines and common practice: I would argue that the existing rules (policies, guidelines, etc.) prevent me from improving or maintaining the project. The same problem exists in Wikibooks: if I was a Wikibooks administrator, I could claim that the rule of using RFD to delete bad pages prevents me from (efficiently) improving or maintaining a project, then ignore the rule and start deleting bad pages in volume via speedy deletion. The reason why this does not happen is that administrators do in general in fact abide by rules (policies and guidelines), even those rules that prevent them from improving the project (improving by their assessment). :: I therefore repeat my proposal to delete this dishonest page, fortunately not matching the actual practice. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Polansky|contribs]]) 13:44, 3 April 2025 (UTC) == [[Anarchist FAQ]] == The book is mostly copied from https://anarchistfaq.org/afaq, which is [https://anarchistfaq.org/afaq/intro.html licensed] only under the GFDL. This violates [[WB:COPY]], which says that "you cannot import information which is available only under the GFDL". [[User:Jlwoodwa|jlwoodwa]] ([[User talk:Jlwoodwa|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jlwoodwa|contribs]]) 02:57, 28 March 2025 (UTC) :{{u|JJPMaster}} said in [[Special:Diff/4484327|an edit summary]] that the copyright holder was "contacted with instructions to email VRT". [[User:Jlwoodwa|jlwoodwa]] ([[User talk:Jlwoodwa|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jlwoodwa|contribs]]) 03:37, 28 March 2025 (UTC) :Much of the content was copied before dual licensing was introduced at Wikibooks and is therefore not a violation of the policy that was in force at the time. This is therefore not a valid deletion reason for any content that pre-dates the introduction of dual licensing [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 11:37, 28 March 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} - the fact that the content of this book is almost entirely copied from an outside source is itself a problem, regardless of the license of that work. The purpose of Wikibooks is to develop new freely licensed texts, not merely to create copies of existing texts. [[Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/Anarchist FAQ|A 2009 request for deletion]] was closed as "keep on the condition it is developed and not hosted as a completed work". Over fifteen years later, this still hasn't happened, and there's no indication that it ever will. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 04:36, 29 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Template:Qr-twwp]] == This isn't exactly a request to delete the template, but rather to merge it with {{tlx|Copypaste}}. The {{tlx|Qr-twwp}} template serves the same purpose as {{tlx|Copypaste}}, but without the seven-day period after which the page is deleted. This leads to confusion, as well as a perpetually full [[:Category:Queried pages]]. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 17:37, 30 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Evalution of Online Sources]] == {{closed|1=Deleted. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 02:54, 20 June 2025 (UTC)}} Abandoned for multiple years, no meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:36, 2 May 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}}. No content beyond the introduction. Pity - it'd be a useful resource if it existed. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 21:55, 4 May 2025 (UTC) :Deleted [[User talk:QueerEcofeminist|per creator agreement]] —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:32, 5 May 2025 (UTC) {{end closed}} == [[Character Encodings]] == Was never fleshed out into a proper book and consists only of code tables —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:40, 2 May 2025 (UTC) == [[Defence in Depth for Securing Computer Systems]] == Abandoned for over a decade; very little meaningful content with no plan for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:45, 2 May 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} - what little content exists in this book is badly out of date. Computer security has changed a lot over the last ~20 years; the basic recommendations made in this book like "you should have a configuration management system" or "make sure your server cabinet is locked" simply don't cut it anymore. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:06, 4 May 2025 (UTC) == [[CASP]] == Abandoned for over a decade; no meaningful content; just lists of terms —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:49, 2 May 2025 (UTC) :{{vd}} - this is just a list of objectives for the exam, and [https://partners.comptia.org/docs/default-source/resources/comptia-casp-cas-004-exam-objectives-(4-0) the current objectives of the exam] are completely different than those shown here. (Unsurprisingly so, given that this book was created in 2014, and that computer security hasn't stood still in the meantime.) [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 22:12, 4 May 2025 (UTC) == [[Managing enterprises with advanced ICT]] == Abandoned for multiple years; little meaningful content; was never more than a list of outlinks to enWP —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:51, 2 May 2025 (UTC) == [[Adobe GoLive Guide]] == Abandoned, fragmentary manual for a piece of web design software which was discontinued in 2008. Further development seems unlikely; no substantial edits have been made in the last 15+ years. [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 20:29, 15 May 2025 (UTC) == [[Transwiki:Takeminakata]] == Copied Wikipedia article, per [[WP:NOTWP]]. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 23:48, 25 May 2025 (UTC) :[[User:Immanuelle|Immanuelle]] requested that this be imported in December 2024 ([[Wikibooks:Requests for import/Archives/2024/December#Multiple pages for User:Immanuelle]]. @[[User:Immanuelle|Immanuelle]]: Do you have any plans for this page? [[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] ([[User talk:Omphalographer|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Omphalographer|contribs]]) 05:15, 26 May 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Omphalographer|Omphalographer]] Yes I do have plans for it. I was meaning to import it to here [[User:Immanuelle/sandbox/Suwa_Faith]] and work on it. But I thought the request was never responded to. It is part of a project for making a book talking about types of Shinto shrines. Although I cannot promise I will complete it soon. [[User:Immanuelle|Immanuelle]] ([[User talk:Immanuelle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Immanuelle|contribs]]) 07:44, 26 May 2025 (UTC) ::: Oh, and if that's the case, you can move this and I'll withdraw this request, is that correct? [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 00:03, 27 May 2025 (UTC) ::::Can we merge in the history here? [[User:Immanuelle|Immanuelle]] ([[User talk:Immanuelle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Immanuelle|contribs]]) 22:50, 1 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Ainu]] == Abandoned multiple years; no meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:18, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Australia's International Airline Freight]] == Seems out of scope (not book-like) and potentially encyclopedic; minimal content and potential for development —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:21, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == Pages in [[Baptist Theology]] == * [[Baptist Theology/Character of God]] * [[Baptist Theology/The Church]] * [[Baptist Theology/The Apostles Creed]] * [[Baptist Theology/Salvation]] * [[Baptist Theology/Origin of Sin]] * [[Baptist Theology/Men and Women in God's Creation]] * [[Baptist Theology/Last Things]] * [[Baptist Theology/Jesus Christ (the Son of God)]] * [[Baptist Theology/Its supernatural origin]] * [[Baptist Theology/Holy Spirit]] * [[Baptist Theology/God the Father]] * [[Baptist Theology/Existence of God]] Entire book is orphaned and was never properly structured; suffers from key and widespread NPOV issues; abandoned and undeveloped —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:27, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Bible Stories/The Birth of Jesus]] == Orphaned page and out of scope (single story) —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:28, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Chemical Dynamics/Electrostatics]] == Abandoned >1 decade; orphaned; minimal meaningful content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:47, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == Subpages in [[Christian Hymns]] == All pages are orphaned; per [[WB:SOURCE]] this is a repository and is out of scope —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:54, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Economic Sophisms]] == Per [[WB:SOURCE]]. The previous RFD was closed as no consensus though there was reasonable evidence to delete. Previous discussions had suggested that the book could be improved, but it has now been several years without progress or moves to annotate the book for compliance with WB scope. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 15:26, 28 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Essentials of Number Theory]] == Abandoned with minimal content —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 15:34, 28 June 2025 (UTC) 1edm94ukotxswqm3yc82vlascbr6lay Chess 0 4255 4520833 4515843 2025-07-01T18:58:36Z 2804:14D:4082:9037:15DB:B596:1F28:6107 Added tempo page 4520833 wikitext text/x-wiki {{featured book}}[[Image:ChessSet.jpg|300x300px|Some chess pieces: (from left to right) a white king, a black rook, a black queen, a white pawn, a black knight, and a white bishop|center|frameless]] == Table of Contents == {{PDF version|Chess|Prepared 19 July 2006, file size 3.3 MB|Chess}} {{Print version}} #[[Chess/Introduction|Introduction]] #[[Chess/Arranging The Board|Arranging The Board]] #[[Chess/Playing The Game|Playing The Game]] #[[Chess/Notating The Game|Notating The Game]] #[[Chess/Tactics|Tactics]] #[[Chess/Tactics Exercises|Tactics Exercises]] #[[Chess/Strategy|Strategy]] #[[Chess/Basic Openings|Basic Openings]] #[[Chess/Sample chess game|Sample chess game]] #[[Chess/The Endgame/King and Queen vs. King|The Endgame]] #[[Chess/Variants|Variants]] #[[Chess/Tournaments|Tournaments]] #[[Chess/Famous Games|Famous Games]] #[[Chess/Puzzles|Puzzles]] #[[Chess/Computer Chess|Computer Chess]] #[[Chess/Optional homework|Optional homework]] #[[Chess/Tempo|Tempo]] == Related Wikibooks == * [[Chess Opening Theory]] treats the chess openings in much more detail. * [[Chess Strategy]] provides a more detailed understanding of chess strategy. {{clear}} {{Associated Wikimedia|Chess |Commons = Chess |Commons category = Chess |Wikinews category = Chess |Wikipedia = Chess |Wikipedia portal = Chess |Wikiquote = Chess |Wikiquote category = |Wikisource = |Wikisource category = |Wikiversity = |Wiktionary = chess |Wiktionary category = Chess }} {{Shelves|Chess}} {{Alphabetical|C}} {{status|100%}} {{subjects|Games|Board games}} [[ca:Escacs]] [[cy:Gwyddbwyll]] [[de:Schach]] [[es:Ajedrez]] [[fr:Apprendre à jouer aux échecs]] [[ko:체스]] [[it:Scacchi]] [[ms:Catur]] [[nl:Schaken]] [[ja:チェス]] [[oc:Escacs]] [[pa:ਸ਼ਤਰਂਜ]] [[pl:Szachy/Okładka]] [[pt:Xadrez]] [[ro:Şah]] [[fi:Shakkiaapinen]] [[th:หมากรุกสากล]] [[uk:Шахи]] [[zh:国际象棋]] abm9kbbwkh3dy08fufgo6pqb0dd5o0i Introduction to Game Theory 0 18096 4520871 3459731 2025-07-01T21:33:49Z 41.147.3.229 4520871 wikitext text/x-wiki <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Game</span> Theory might be better described as Strategy Theory, or Theory of Interactive Decision Making. A ''strategic situation'' involves two or more interacting players who make decisions while trying to anticipate the actions and reactions by others. Game theory studies the ''general principles'' that explain how people and organizations act in strategic situations. Game theory studies strategy mainly through the analysis of different "games". A "game" in game theory is a fully explicit structure which characterizes each player's set of actions, payoffs and possible outcomes under given rules of playing. Given this conditions, rational players act in such a way, that they maximize the expected value of their ''von Neumann-Morgenstern Utility.'' Games provide a simplified world within which to study strategy (as opposed to the real world where complexities get in the way of developing general principles). ==Table of Contents== '''1''' Introduction to Game Theory # [[/Overview/]] # [[/Short history/]] # [[/Theory of rational choice/]] ===Part I - Games with Perfect Information=== '''2''' Nash Equilibrium # [[/Strategic games|Strategic games]] # [[/Prisoner's Dilemma|Example: ''Prisoner's Dilemma]]'' # [[/Matrix Notation|Matrix Notation In Game Theory - How To Set Out A Game]] # [[/Battle of the sexes|Example: ''Battle of the sexes'']] (a.k.a. ''Bach or Stravinsky?'') # [[/Matching Pennies|Example: ''Matching Pennies'']] # [[/Nash equilibrium/]] # Best response functions # Cournot's model of oligopoly # Bertrand's model of oligopoly # Auctions # Questions # Sources '''3''' Mixed Strategy Equilibrium # Randomization # Mixed strategy Nash equilibrium # Dominated actions # [[/Dominant Strategies/]] # Example: expert diagnosis # Formation of beliefs '''4''' Extensive Games with Perfect Equilibrium # [[/Extensive games|Introduction to Extensive games]] # Strategies and outcomes # Nash equilibrium # Subgame perfect equilibrium # Stackelberg's model of duopoly # Adding simultaneous moves # Adding uncertainty '''5''' Coalitional Games ===Part II - Games with Imperfect Information=== '''6''' Bayesian Games # Motivational Examples # Cournot's duopoly with imperfect information '''7''' Extensive Games with Imperfect Information # Strategies # Nash equilibrium # Beliefs # Signaling games ===Part III - Real World Examples=== '''8''' TV Game Shows # [[/Deal Or No Deal/]] '''9''' Politics # [[/Mutually assured destruction/]] == See Also == '''Wikipedia Articles on Game Theory Related Topics''' * [[w:Game theory|Game Theory article on Wikipedia]] * [[w:Prisoner's dilemma|Prisoner's Dilemma]]. * [[w:John von Neumann|John von Neumann]] and [[w:John Forbes Nash|John Forbes Nash]]. * [[w:Game semantics|Game semantics]], an approach to establish the notion of truth in mathematical logic, in another way than Tarski did, using game theoretical concepts {{Shelves|Applied mathematics|University level mathematics books}} {{alphabetical|I}} {{status|25%}} __NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__ [[ca:Teoria del joc]] k619d34blc09jdj923g3mtmdt3doh37 4520873 4520871 2025-07-01T21:43:29Z Codename Noreste 3441010 Rejected the last text change (by [[Special:Contributions/41.147.3.229|41.147.3.229]]) and restored revision 3459731 by Pi zero 4520873 wikitext text/x-wiki Game Theory might be better described as Strategy Theory, or Theory of Interactive Decision Making. A ''strategic situation'' involves two or more interacting players who make decisions while trying to anticipate the actions and reactions by others. Game theory studies the ''general principles'' that explain how people and organizations act in strategic situations. Game theory studies strategy mainly through the analysis of different "games". A "game" in game theory is a fully explicit structure which characterizes each player's set of actions, payoffs and possible outcomes under given rules of playing. Given this conditions, rational players act in such a way, that they maximize the expected value of their ''von Neumann-Morgenstern Utility.'' Games provide a simplified world within which to study strategy (as opposed to the real world where complexities get in the way of developing general principles). ==Table of Contents== '''1''' Introduction to Game Theory # [[/Overview/]] # [[/Short history/]] # [[/Theory of rational choice/]] ===Part I - Games with Perfect Information=== '''2''' Nash Equilibrium # [[/Strategic games|Strategic games]] # [[/Prisoner's Dilemma|Example: ''Prisoner's Dilemma]]'' # [[/Matrix Notation|Matrix Notation In Game Theory - How To Set Out A Game]] # [[/Battle of the sexes|Example: ''Battle of the sexes'']] (a.k.a. ''Bach or Stravinsky?'') # [[/Matching Pennies|Example: ''Matching Pennies'']] # [[/Nash equilibrium/]] # Best response functions # Cournot's model of oligopoly # Bertrand's model of oligopoly # Auctions # Questions # Sources '''3''' Mixed Strategy Equilibrium # Randomization # Mixed strategy Nash equilibrium # Dominated actions # [[/Dominant Strategies/]] # Example: expert diagnosis # Formation of beliefs '''4''' Extensive Games with Perfect Equilibrium # [[/Extensive games|Introduction to Extensive games]] # Strategies and outcomes # Nash equilibrium # Subgame perfect equilibrium # Stackelberg's model of duopoly # Adding simultaneous moves # Adding uncertainty '''5''' Coalitional Games ===Part II - Games with Imperfect Information=== '''6''' Bayesian Games # Motivational Examples # Cournot's duopoly with imperfect information '''7''' Extensive Games with Imperfect Information # Strategies # Nash equilibrium # Beliefs # Signaling games ===Part III - Real World Examples=== '''8''' TV Game Shows # [[/Deal Or No Deal/]] '''9''' Politics # [[/Mutually assured destruction/]] == See Also == '''Wikipedia Articles on Game Theory Related Topics''' * [[w:Game theory|Game Theory article on Wikipedia]] * [[w:Prisoner's dilemma|Prisoner's Dilemma]]. * [[w:John von Neumann|John von Neumann]] and [[w:John Forbes Nash|John Forbes Nash]]. * [[w:Game semantics|Game semantics]], an approach to establish the notion of truth in mathematical logic, in another way than Tarski did, using game theoretical concepts {{Shelves|Applied mathematics|University level mathematics books}} {{alphabetical|I}} {{status|25%}} __NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__ [[ca:Teoria del joc]] f7rin14f38mki4f7wc7n8qm3jeajs7d How To Assemble A Desktop PC/Development 0 25546 4520938 4347886 2025-07-02T11:57:49Z 102.90.103.4 Systems and thier functions 4520938 wikitext text/x-wiki This page is for developing sections that will eventually go into the book [[How To Build A Computer]] (only if there is enough material present to justify a new subpage). ==Places to Find, Compare, and Check Price and Compatibility== ===PCPartPicker=== An online tool that includes several tools for first time or experienced PC builders. The main feature is being able to create part lists. In the part list tool, there are 2 more tools, the wattage estimation tool, and the compatibility checker. https://pcpartpicker.com/ ===PCPickerpro=== Assemble your PC parts online to build customized Gaming PC. https://pcpickerpro.com ===Tom's Hardware=== http://www.tomshardware.com/ ===Overclockers=== http://www.overclockers.com/ ===SilentPcReview=== http://www.silentpcreview.com/ [[User:Microsoftwin108576|Microsoftwin108576]] ([[User talk:Microsoftwin108576|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Microsoftwin108576|contribs]]) 22:40, 26 December 2015 (UTC) == Troubleshooting == You just finished building your computer, you turn it on, and it doesn't work. This section helps you in case this happens. === The drives act strange === Make sure the IDE/ATA cable isn't longer than 18 inches (46 cm). === I pressed the power button and nothing happened === This could be due to a variety of reasons * You forgot to connect the power button * The power cable is loose * The power is out * The motherboard is grounded out * You forgot (on certain motherboards) to connect the 12V 4-PIN cable to the motherboard. === My New Computer Randomly Restarts === * Bad UPS, check the voltage rails for your UPS * Insufficient cooling of components, especially CPU === My New Computer Randomly Shuts Down / Crashes === * You have overclocked it above what the processor can do at it's current vcore voltage. Increase the vcore voltage. * An internal/external cable is loose. === RMA === You found your problem component using the above sections, and you need to get a replacement for a part you bought online. This is known as an RMA(Return Merchandise Authorization). This is usually done through either the manufacturer or the store where you bought the item from. == Modding + Decoration == {{Wikipediapar||case modding}} So you don't just want to make a computer, you want to show it off. Or maybe you want to do something creative with your computer. == Optimizing the System == If you are using a Windows system, you'll probably want to remove useless features and 'tweak' your system. Searching the internet for 'Windows Tweaks' will throw up a load of tweaks. Be warned. Don't do anything crazy and if you are scared-DON'T DO IT! Dealing with computers and switch s = fault-tolerant storage = * RAID * distributed file systems = computer repair = * [http://buildrepair.pbwiki.com/ the BuildRepair wiki] {{BookCat}} psavaxri2dx02pwrtkxyk9fcixy84kj 4520939 4520938 2025-07-02T11:58:03Z MathXplore 3097823 Reverted edits by [[Special:Contribs/102.90.103.4|102.90.103.4]] ([[User talk:102.90.103.4|talk]]) to last version by R. Henrik Nilsson: reverting vandalism 4347886 wikitext text/x-wiki This page is for developing sections that will eventually go into the book [[How To Build A Computer]] (only if there is enough material present to justify a new subpage). ==Places to Find, Compare, and Check Price and Compatibility== ===PCPartPicker=== An online tool that includes several tools for first time or experienced PC builders. The main feature is being able to create part lists. In the part list tool, there are 2 more tools, the wattage estimation tool, and the compatibility checker. https://pcpartpicker.com/ ===PCPickerpro=== Assemble your PC parts online to build customized Gaming PC. https://pcpickerpro.com ===Tom's Hardware=== http://www.tomshardware.com/ ===Overclockers=== http://www.overclockers.com/ ===SilentPcReview=== http://www.silentpcreview.com/ [[User:Microsoftwin108576|Microsoftwin108576]] ([[User talk:Microsoftwin108576|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Microsoftwin108576|contribs]]) 22:40, 26 December 2015 (UTC) == Troubleshooting == You just finished building your computer, you turn it on, and it doesn't work. This section helps you in case this happens. === The drives act strange === Make sure the IDE/ATA cable isn't longer than 18 inches (46 cm). === I pressed the power button and nothing happened === This could be due to a variety of reasons * You forgot to connect the power button * The power cable is loose * The power is out * The motherboard is grounded out * You forgot (on certain motherboards) to connect the 12V 4-PIN cable to the motherboard. === My New Computer Randomly Restarts === * Bad UPS, check the voltage rails for your UPS * Insufficient cooling of components, especially CPU === My New Computer Randomly Shuts Down / Crashes === * You have overclocked it above what the processor can do at it's current vcore voltage. Increase the vcore voltage. * An internal/external cable is loose. === RMA === You found your problem component using the above sections, and you need to get a replacement for a part you bought online. This is known as an RMA(Return Merchandise Authorization). This is usually done through either the manufacturer or the store where you bought the item from. == Modding + Decoration == {{Wikipediapar||case modding}} So you don't just want to make a computer, you want to show it off. Or maybe you want to do something creative with your computer. == Optimizing the System == If you are using a Windows system, you'll probably want to remove useless features and 'tweak' your system. Searching the internet for 'Windows Tweaks' will throw up a load of tweaks. Be warned. Don't do anything crazy and if you are scared-DON'T DO IT! = Build a Laptop = Few people know this but let me tell you a little secret- It IS possible to build a laptop/notebook computer. Be warned-It IS more difficult than building a desktop. Heres how: == Getting Parts == Here are the parts you will need to make your pride and joy. But before you rush out to get it all, please scroll down to my DISCLAIMER. The parts are: [http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=barebone+laptop+notebook&btnG=Search+Froogle A Barebone Notebook] * A compatible Processer (search with [http://froogle.google.com Froogle]) * A compatible storage device (search with [http://froogle.google.com Froogle]) – as of 2021, it is recommended to install a solid state drive rather than a mechanical hard drive for reasons outlined at [[How_To_Assemble_A_Desktop_PC/Choosing_the_parts#SSD|Choosing the parts § SSD]]. The added robustness and reduced power consumption of solid state drives are especially beneficial for portable devices. Hard drives may be used where much storage at a low price is a priority, but external portable hard drives can serve this purpose too. * Some RAM (search with [http://froogle.google.com Froogle]) * WiFi Card (optional unless you have a Centrino notebook)(search with [http://froogle.google.com Froogle]) == Building It == [http://www.overclockers.com/tips1195/ THIS SITE] has a good guide on how to make the 'book. (I'm WAY too lazy to type it myself) == Disclaimer == # I HATE Going out shopping. If you do too, I have provided links to all the parts to buy online. However: #* These may not ship to your area #* I AM NOT advertising/selling/recommending all these parts!!! # If anything goes wrong I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE # Operating System (OS) installation is the same as on a desktop # Please ensure you read and understand #* These instructions/instructions on links #* The Desktop building instructions in this book # DO NOT attempt if you have never done a desktop before # Most important: #* Slag your friends saying- "I can build a laptop computer and you can't-HaHa" #* Enjoy your shiny new handbuilt laptop :) # If all goes wrong just [http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=cheap+laptops&btnG=Search+Froogle BUY ONE] (see 1b) Consider getting a laptop with modular and user-replaceable parts such as RAM and storage, which allows later upgrading. = fault-tolerant storage = * RAID * distributed file systems = computer repair = * [http://buildrepair.pbwiki.com/ the BuildRepair wiki] {{BookCat}} eahssvn2vk1y6y3eq42a504q3pyn08t Category:Recipes for muffins 14 34906 4520777 4515923 2025-07-01T13:08:13Z MathXplore 3097823 added [[Category:Recipes]] using [[Help:Gadget-HotCat|HotCat]] 4520777 wikitext text/x-wiki {{cooknav}} [[Category:Recipes]] qox7mjzgv9zxb2biryetgqg4bmoxr83 Chess Opening Theory 0 36274 4520834 4497999 2025-07-01T19:01:54Z 2804:14D:4082:9037:15DB:B596:1F28:6107 Added ambox about tempi 4520834 wikitext text/x-wiki == Introduction: What is opening theory? == {{quote|In chess, unlike tennis, it is not possible to win by serving an ace.|Irving Chernev, chess writer}} So, you've learned the rules of [[chess]]. You've learned that moving your bishops and knights off the back row and controlling territory is a good plan, and letting lots of your pieces get captured for free is a bad one. (If you have doubts about any of that, head over to the [[Chess|Chess Wikibook]] first!) Now it's time to answer that $64,000 question that's on the tip of every new chess player's tongue. The question that cuts right to the heart of what it means to be a competitive board game player:<blockquote>''How can I beat my friend in, like, four moves?''</blockquote> === Beating your friend in four moves === {{Chess/board|moves=1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 Bc5 3. Qh5 Nc6 4. Qxf7#|frame=1|float=right|caption=A: Black has failed to deal with the lightning-fast attack on f7 by the white bishop and queen, and got checkmated in four moves.}} Yes, it is possible! But only if your friend doesn't see it coming. Otherwise we'd have solved chess, and no one would play it. If you're playing as White, then the trick is to carry out a lightning attack on the weak f7-pawn. It's a weak pawn because it's defended only by the black king. If you can attack it with two pieces while it's defended by only one, you've won it for free. If you're playing as Black, then you can try for something similar by attacking White's f2-pawn. Let's look at how White can perform this trick. White's first move is '''1. e4.''' The queen and f1-bishop, which were stuck on the back rank, can now be '''developed'''. Developing a piece means moving it off the back rank and putting it somewhere more useful. The plan is to quickly '''develop''' the queen and f1-bishop in such a way that they both attack the f7-pawn. {{Ambox |text=If you're not sure what 1. e4 means (or where f7 is), you need [[Chess/Notating The Game|'''this quick course''']] in '''algebraic notation''' from the Chess Wikibook.}} Black replies by copying White: '''1...e5.''' Then, White brings out the f1-bishop, as planned: '''2. Bc4.''' Notice how it attacks the weak f7-pawn. It's now got one attacker and one defender. Black isn't entirely sure what's going on, and so copies White again: '''2...Bc5.''' White makes a bold queen move: '''3. Qh5.''' That's two attackers on f7, and still only one defender. Black notices that the queen on h5 is threatening the pawn on e5, and so defends it with the innocent '''3...Nc6??'''. White plays '''4. Qxf7#''' (diagram A). The # stands for checkmate. Oops! {{clear}} === What should Black have done? === {{Chess/board|moves=1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 Bc5 3. Qh5 Qe7|frame=1|float=right|caption=B: This is a much better idea. Black will now get the move ...Nf6 for free, because white's queen will have to move.}} What did Black do wrong here? Let's allow Black to take back the move 3...Nc6 and replace it with '''3...Qe7! (or 3...Qf6!)''' which defends the f7- and e5-pawns simultaneously (diagram B). Now, what does White's queen think she's doing on h5? Everything she can attack is defended. She can't make any more progress. If she was a hockey player, she would be offside. But more importantly, Black is going to play ...Nf6 next and '''gain a tempo on the queen.''' <blockquote>''Gain a what?''</blockquote> {{clear}} === Tempos, and the gaining of them === {{Chess/board|moves=1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 Bc5 3. Qh5 Qe7 4. d3 Nf6|frame=1|float=right|caption=C: Black has made the move they wanted to make anyway, which was ...Nf6. White would like to play a useful move like Nf3 too, but because their queen is attacked, they don't have time. They have lost 1 tempo.}} Chess is a turn-based game, and '''you can only move one piece each turn''' (except when castling). So, if your queen is doing something this turn, bad luck, the rest of your pieces have to stay put. In business-speak, there's an ''opportunity cost'' to moving the queen. Each turn is a precious commodity, which we call a '''tempo''' (Italian for 'time'). A tempo is an opportunity to move something. <blockquote>''Doesn't Black always get one tempo for every tempo white gets?''</blockquote> Not quite. If your queen gets attacked by a knight, you've got to move it or lose it. Instead of developing another piece, you've got to waste this '''tempo''' re-locating a piece you'd already developed. So black's move ...Nf6 is basically a free action. Chess players would say "Black has '''gained a tempo''' on the queen". And that right there is opening theory in microcosm. In the opening, developing your pieces is everything. To develop your pieces, you need tempos. How do I develop my pieces so that I don't ''lose'' any tempos along the way, and if possible I ''gain'' tempos at my opponent's expense? The answer to that question is Chess Opening Theory. The perfect chess opening is one where you develop every piece in a single move to its best possible square, and then leave it there. (Lots of players have searched for the perfect chess opening. Sadly, every one has its own drawbacks.) Things like space (controlling lots of squares with your pieces and pawns), structure (keeping your pieces and pawns supporting each other) and even material (how many pieces you've got left on the board) can all take a back seat. If you want to know the real reason the grandmasters are playing one opening move instead of another, think '''development''', and think '''tempos'''. Or if you're pedantic, think '''tempi.''' {{Ambox |text=Related information about '''tempi''' can be found [[Chess/Tempo|'''here''']].}} === What's the point of opening theory? === Many openings conceal traps that can swing the game against an unwary player, like White's trick with attacking the f7 square, where your opponent's normal-looking moves can turn out to be hideous blunders in a particular situation. Being familiar with an opening can let you lay traps, and avoid falling into traps yourself. '''However''', the point of opening theory is ''not'' to win every game out of the opening. A strong player, or just one who's familiar with the opening, can avoid the pitfalls of even the trappiest of opening lines and wouldn't blunder mate-in-one or a whole piece right in the beginning. <blockquote>''What's a good opening then?''</blockquote> The point of opening theory is to get you to a middle-game position that you like to play, and from where you can build an advantage for the endgame. [[Chess/Basic Openings|A good opening is one which]]: * Helps you to control the centre of the board. This gives you more space to safely move your army around in and to move pieces between the kingside and the queenside where they can make or respond to threats. Control in the centre can come from your pawns or minor pieces. * Develops your pieces from their starting squares. Your minor pieces become more powerful as they move away from the edges because they start to control more squares. * Keeps your king safe in the middle-game. Usually this involves castling, moving your king away from the centre. Another determinant of the ''flavour'' of each opening is the [[Chess Strategy/Pawn structure|resulting pawn structure]]. The formation of the pawns for you and your opponent―which are weak and which are strong, is the position closed or open, where are the potential pawn breaks―define plans available in the middle-game. === How to navigate this Wikibook === Each page corresponds to one position. You can follow links from one page to the next to go move by move into an opening. As well as being discussed in the text on each page, many pages contain a theory table that shows lots of possible continuations at once. The page titles follow a particular pattern: so the page of the position after 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 is found at [[Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...e5/2. Nf3/2...Nc6]] and if you know that you can go directly there. In chess, most positions can be arrived at by multiple move orders, so if you are looking for a particular position you can look it up by FEN instead of move order. A FEN is a code written in [[w:Forsyth–Edwards Notation|Forsyth–Edwards Notation]] that identifies a certain position of the pieces on the board, irrespective of what moves were played to get there. To look up by FEN, paste the first field of the position's [[w:Forsyth–Edwards Notation|FEN]] record into the search box below and wrap it inside quotation marks. Try e.g. [[Special:Search/"rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/4P3/8/PPPP1PPP/RNBQKBNR"|"rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/4P3/8/PPPP1PPP/RNBQKBNR"]]. {{Book search|float=center|width=500}} You can use the Encyclopedia of Chess Openings (ECO) code [[/ECO index|index]] if you prefer to navigate to positions that way. Finally, the [[/Great Big Opening Survey|Great Big Opening Survey]] page lists the most frequently occuring opening lines that this Wikibook ''ought'' to be covering if it isn't already. Please help add the ones that are missing! When contributing to this Wikibook, please follow the [[/Organization|conventions for organization.]] == Starting position == {{Chess Opening Theory/Position|Starting position |openings=<br> * [[/1. e4|1. e4 · King's Pawn opening]] * [[/1. d4|1. d4 · Queen's Pawn opening]] * [[/1. c4|1. c4 · English opening]] * [[/1. Nf3|1. Nf3 · Zukertort opening]] }} {{quote|I see only one move ahead, but always the best move.|attributed to Charles Jaffe, New York amateur<ref name="winter">{{Cite web |title=How Many Moves Ahead? |url=https://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/movesahead.html |last=Winter |first=Edward |access-date=2025-05-31 |website=Chess Notes}}</ref>}} This is the starting position, the way the pieces are laid out when you first set them up on the board. Each page in this Wikibook corresponds to a single position, which will be shown in the diagram like this one on the top of the page. Each page discusses the features of the position and possible moves the other play may play next. White moves first in chess, so they have the first choice of how to proceed. The most common plans are to stake a claim in the centre with a pawn move: [[/1. e4|'''1. e4''']] or [[/1. d4|'''1. d4''']]. === King's Pawn opening === {{Chess/board|moves=1. e4|caption=1. e4, King's Pawn opening.|float=left}} The move '''[[/1. e4|1. e4]]''', called the '''King's Pawn Opening''', is the most popular initial move at every level of chess, from beginner to grandmaster. Even if you aren't trying to checkmate black in four moves, letting both the queen and the king’s bishop out is a good thing to do. You might hear people recommending 1. e4 because it controls the important central squares d5 and f5, which is true. However, the most important square White controls by playing 1. e4 is in fact... the e4 square itself. Having a white pawn on that square means there won’t be a black pawn on that square anytime soon, which means that the king’s knight can be developed to f3 without fear of getting kicked by a pawn and losing a tempo. And just as White indirectly claims the f3 square by playing e4, Black has to bear in mind that f6 will not be a safe square for the g8 knight if White can simply advance the pawn to e5. The simplest way for Black to fix this problem would be to copy White and play 1...e5 in response. So why would you ever play anything other than 1. e4 - and why would Black ever meet it with anything other than ...e5? It took chess players a few hundred years<ref group="n">Technically, the [[Chess Opening Theory/1. d4/1...d5/2. c4/2...dxc4|Queen’s Gambit Accepted]] and a form of the [[Chess Opening Theory/1. d4/1...d5/2. Bf4|London System]] were already conceived in the [[wikipedia:Göttingen_manuscript|Göttingen manuscript]].</ref> to realise the answer to that question: ''If Black wants to play ...e5, but instead of 1. e4 I play a move that attacks the e5 square, Black can't play ...e5 anymore!''<ref group="n">[[Chess Opening Theory/1. d4/1...e5|1. d4 e5]] is a real opening (the Englund Gambit), but it is considered unsound.</ref> And so they invented: === Queen's Pawn Opening === {{Chess/board|moves=1. d4|caption=1. d4, Queen's Pawn opening|float=left}} '''[[/1. d4|1. d4]]''' is called the '''Queen's Pawn Opening.''' It is the 2nd most popular initial move (at all levels) and is in the same ballpark as 1. e4 in terms of games played. All the other legal moves ''combined'' appear in about half as many games as 1. d4. If chess opening theory is a solar system you have Planet 1. e4, Planet 1. d4, a few dwarf planets and some dust. 1. d4 is played to prevent Black from getting the useful move ...e5 in straight away, while also controlling the c5-square. It discourages Black from developing the b8 knight to c6, where the pawn can advance to d5 and kick it, though this is nevertheless occasionally seen. White isn't necessarily interested in developing their queen’s bishop straight away - it tends to be the least important piece to develop. 1. d4 is more about slowing down Black's development than speeding up White's. If Black retaliates in kind with 1...d5 to prevent<ref group="n">[[Chess Opening Theory/1. d4/1...d5/2. e4|1. d4 d5 2. e4]] is also a real opening (the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit), but a notoriously risky one.</ref> White from following up with 2. e4, White can instead play 2. c4, the Queen's Gambit, hoping to divert Black's pawn from its job of attacking e4. The Queen's Gambit is the champagne and caviar of White openings and is a huge reason for the popularity of 1. d4. {{Bmbox |text=A '''gambit''' is a specific kind of opening in which ''material'' (pawns or, rarely, larger pieces) is sacrificed to gain some form of dynamic advantage (speedy development, an attack, extra tempi, etc.). If there's no material sacrificed, it's not a gambit. Despite what the musical CHESS may have told you, not every opening is a gambit!}} === 1. e4 vs 1. d4 === Conventional wisdom says that if Black’s position were a castle, 1. d4 players prefer to capture it by digging under the foundations, whereas 1. e4 players like to crash through the front gate on a flaming motorcycle. This is a bit of an over-generalisation. You're not going to get put into a four-move checkmate by a 1. d4 player, but if you play bad moves you'll still get wiped out. Read Irving Chernyev's instructional books, or the collected games of the great inter-war players Lasker, Capablanca and Alekhine, and you'll soon discover how easy it is to get hit by a tactical avalanche while playing a "strategic" Queen's Gambit. === Other opening moves === In the chess opening theory solar system, alongside planets e4 and d4, there are a few other dwarf planets of note. * '''[[/1. Nf3|1. Nf3]]''', the Zukertort opening (sometimes referred to as the Réti Opening, or the King’s Indian Attack), is the 3rd most popular initial move. It's a sophisticated way of stalling for time, and waiting to see what Black tries before transposing into a more mainstream opening. White reckons that Nf3 will almost certainly be a useful move sooner or later, whereas every pawn move is an irrevocable commitment. :1. Nf3 also has the benefit of cutting out the reply 1...e5 by Black,<ref group="n">Nf3 e5 technically an opening, but it's considered to be even worse than [[Chess Opening Theory/1. d4/1...e5|1. d4 e5]] or [[Chess Opening Theory/1. d4/1...d5/2. e4|1. d4 d5 2. e4]], so don't play it.</ref> which is a move that Black likes to play for all the same reasons that White likes to play 1. e4. 1. Nf3, as stated previously, can transpose into so many openings and is very flexible. * '''[[/1. c4|1. c4]]''', the English Opening, is the 4th most popular move. White frees the queen, discourages the move 1...d5 by taking control of that square, and makes absolutely sure that the c-pawn won't get stuck on c2 behind a knight on c3. The resulting positions have more of a 1. d4 character than an 1. e4 character, and indeed the move d4 often follows later. * '''[[/1. g3|1. g3]]''', the Benko Opening, is the 5th most popular initial move. It doesn't immediately influence the centre, but White plans to follow up with Bg2 which does. The ''hypermodern'' school of opening theory, most influential in the 1920s and 1930s, was all about controlling the centre from a distance with pieces rather than occupying it with pawns. * '''[[/1. b3|1. b3]]''' is the Nimzowitsch-Larsen Attack (or Larsen's Opening), a hypermodern idea akin to 1. g3. Instead of preparing to castle kingside, White tries to scare Black out of it by pointing a bishop at g7. * '''[[/1. f4|1. f4]]''' is the Bird's Opening, a risky and aggressive opening that has the same idea as the English but on the kingside. However, it does not actually prevent 1...e5. 1.f4 e5 is the well-known (and generally sound) From Gambit, which contains a fiendish trap for an unwary White player. 1. f4 also weakens White's kingside slightly. * '''[[/1. Nc3|1. Nc3]]''' is the Dunst Opening. There are many possible ''transpositions'' after 1. Nc3. A transposition just means playing the same moves in a different order. Where a position A is most commonly reached through opening B, it will be classified under opening B. If you reach it through opening C, you will have ''transposed'' from opening C to opening B. For example, 1. Nc3 e5 2. e4 is a transposition to the Vienna Game because the standard Vienna Game move order is 1. e4 e5 2. Nc3. * '''[[/1. b4|1. b4]]''' is the Polish Opening. White reckons Larsen's opening can be improved upon by moving the pawn further forward. The pawn controls more space on b4 instead of b3, but is more vulnerable, and the space it controls is not space that typically needs to be controlled. It is still a completely playable move. This is a sort of fashionably eccentric opening for people who wear bow ties. In fact there are twenty possible first moves for White, most of which are not good. The full list is: {| cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10" ! style="text-align:left; vertical-align:top;"|Two-step pawn moves: |[[/1. a4|a4]] || [[/1. b4|b4]] || [[/1. c4|c4]] || [[/1. d4|d4]] || [[/1. e4|e4]] || [[/1. f4|f4]] || [[/1. g4|g4]] || [[/1. h4|h4]] |- ! style="text-align:left; vertical-align:top;"|One-step pawn moves: |[[/1. a3|a3]] || [[/1. b3|b3]] || [[/1. c3|c3]] || [[/1. d3|d3]] || [[/1. e3|e3]] || [[/1. f3|f3]] || [[/1. g3|g3]] || [[/1. h3|h3]] |- ! style="text-align:left; vertical-align:top;"|Knight moves: ||[[/1. Na3|Na3]] || || [[/1. Nc3|Nc3]] || || || [[/1. Nf3|Nf3]] || || [[/1. Nh3|Nh3]] |} == Theory table == {{Chess Opening Theory/Table}} {| class="wikitable" style="float:left" ! !! 1 !! 2 !! 3 !! 4 !! 5 !! 6 !! Evaluation |- ! align="right" | [[Chess/Sicilian Defence|Sicilian Defence]] || '''[[/1. e4|e4]]<br>[[/1. e4/1...c5|c5]]''' || [[/1. e4/1...c5/2. Nf3|Nf3]]<br>[[/1. e4/1...c5/2. Nf3/2...d6|d6]] || [[/1. e4/1...c5/2. Nf3/2...d6/3. d4|d4]]<br>[[/1. e4/1...c5/2. Nf3/2...d6/3. d4/3...cxd4|cxd4]] || [[/1. e4/1...c5/2. Nf3/2...d6/3. d4/3...cxd4/4. Nxd4|Nxd4]]<br>[[/1. e4/1...c5/2. Nf3/2...d6/3. d4/3...cxd4/4. Nxd4/4...Nf6|Nf6]] || [[/1. e4/1...c5/2. Nf3/2...d6/3. d4/3...cxd4/4. Nxd4/4...Nf6/5. Nc3|Nc3]]<br>[[/1. e4/1...c5/2. Nf3/2...d6/3. d4/3...cxd4/4. Nxd4/4...Nf6/5. Nc3/5...a6|a6]] || [[Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...c5/2. Nf3/2...d6/3. d4/3...cxd4/4. Nxd4/4...Nf6/5. Nc3/5...a6/6. Be3|Be3]]<br>[[Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...c5/2. Nf3/2...d6/3. d4/3...cxd4/4. Nxd4/4...Nf6/5. Nc3/5...a6/6. Be3/6...e5|e5]] || +/= |- ! | [[Chess/Ruy Lopez|Ruy Lopez]] || '''e4<br>[[/1. e4/1...e5|e5]]''' || [[/1. e4/1...e5/2. Nf3|Nf3]]<br>[[/1. e4/1...e5/2. Nf3/2...Nc6|Nc6]] || [[/1. e4/1...e5/2. Nf3/2...Nc6/3. Bb5|Bb5]]<br>[[/1. e4/1...e5/2. Nf3/2...Nc6/3. Bb5/3...a6|a6]] || [[/1. e4/1...e5/2. Nf3/2...Nc6/3. Bb5/3...a6/4. Ba4|Ba4]]<br>[[/1. e4/1...e5/2. Nf3/2...Nc6/3. Bb5/3...a6/4. Ba4/4...Nf6|Nf6]] || [[/1. e4/1...e5/2. Nf3/2...Nc6/3. Bb5/3...a6/4. Ba4/4...Nf6/5. O-O|O-O]]<br>[[/1. e4/1...e5/2. Nf3/2...Nc6/3. Bb5/3...a6/4. Ba4/4...Nf6/5. O-O/5...Be7|Be7]] || [[/1. e4/1...e5/2. Nf3/2...Nc6/3. Bb5/3...a6/4. Ba4/4...Nf6/5. O-O/5...Be7/6. Re1|Re1]]<br>[[/1. e4/1...e5/2. Nf3/2...Nc6/3. Bb5/3...a6/4. Ba4/4...Nf6/5. O-O/5...Be7/6. Re1/6...b5|b5]] || +/= |- ! | [[Chess/King's Indian Defence|King's Indian Defence]] || '''[[/1. d4|d4]]<br>[[/1. d4/1...Nf6|Nf6]]''' || [[/1. d4/1...Nf6/2. c4|c4]]<br>[[/1. d4/1...Nf6/2. c4/2...g6|g6]] || [[/1. d4/1...Nf6/2. c4/2...g6/3. Nc3|Nc3]]<br>[[/1. d4/1...Nf6/2. c4/2...g6/3. Nc3/3...Bg7|Bg7]] || [[/1. d4/1...Nf6/2. c4/2...g6/3. Nc3/3...Bg7/4. e4|e4]]<br>[[/1. d4/1...Nf6/2. c4/2...g6/3. Nc3/3...Bg7/4. e4/4...d6|d6]] || [[/1. d4/1...Nf6/2. c4/2...g6/3. Nc3/3...Bg7/4. e4/4...d6/5. Nf3|Nf3]]<br>[[/1. d4/1...Nf6/2. c4/2...g6/3. Nc3/3...Bg7/4. e4/4...d6/5. Nf3/5...O-O|O-O]] || [[/1. d4/1...Nf6/2. c4/2...g6/3. Nc3/3...Bg7/4. e4/4...d6/5. Nf3/5...O-O/6. Be2|Be2]]<br>[[/1. d4/1...Nf6/2. c4/2...g6/3. Nc3/3...Bg7/4. e4/4...d6/5. Nf3/5...O-O/6. e5|e5]] || +/= |- ! | [[Chess/Queen's Gambit Declined|Queen's Gambit Declined]] || '''d4<br>[[/1. d4/1...d5|d5]]''' || [[/1. d4/1...d5/2. c4|c4]]<br>[[/1. d4/1...d5/2. c4/2...e6|e6]] || [[/1. d4/1...d5/2. c4/2...e6/3. Nc3|Nc3]]<br>[[/1. d4/1...d5/2. c4/2...e6/3. Nc3/3...Nf6|Nf6]] || [[/1. d4/1...d5/2. c4/2...e6/3. Nc3/3...Nf6/4. Bg5|Bg5]]<br>[[/1. d4/1...d5/2. c4/2...e6/3. Nc3/3...Nf6/4. Bg5/4...Be7|Be7]] || [[/1. d4/1...d5/2. c4/2...e6/3. Nc3/3...Nf6/4. Bg5/4...Be7/5. e3|e3]]<br>[[/1. d4/1...d5/2. c4/2...e6/3. Nc3/3...Nf6/4. Bg5/4...Be7/5. e3/5...O-O|O-O]] || [[/1. d4/1...d5/2. c4/2...e6/3. Nc3/3...Nf6/4. Bg5/4...Be7/5. e3/5...O-O/6. Nf3|Nf3]]<br>[[/1. d4/1...d5/2. c4/2...e6/3. Nc3/3...Nf6/4. Bg5/4...Be7/5. e3/5...O-O/6. Nf3/6...Nbd7|Nbd7]] || +/= |- ! | [[Chess/King's Indian Attack|King's Indian Attack]] || '''[[/1. Nf3|Nf3]]<br>[[/1. Nf3/1...d5|d5]]''' || [[/1. Nf3/1...d5/2. g3|g3]]<br>[[/1. Nf3/1...d5/2. g3/2...Nf6|Nf6]] || [[/1. Nf3/1...d5/2. g3/2...Nf6/3. Bg2|Bg2]]<br>[[/1. Nf3/1...d5/2. g3/2...Nf6/3. Bg2/3...c6|c6]] || [[/1. Nf3/1...d5/2. g3/2...Nf6/3. Bg2/3...c6/4. O-O|O-O]]<br>[[/1. Nf3/1...d5/2. g3/2...Nf6/3. Bg2/3...c6/4. O-O/4...Bg4|Bg4]] || [[/1. Nf3/1...d5/2. g3/2...Nf6/3. Bg2/3...c6/4. O-O/4...Bg4/5. d3|d3]]<br>[[/1. Nf3/1...d5/2. g3/2...Nf6/3. Bg2/3...c6/4. O-O/4...Bg4/5. d3/5...Nbd7|Nbd7]] || [[/1. Nf3/1...d5/2. g3/2...Nf6/3. Bg2/3...c6/4. O-O/4...Bg4/5. d3/5...Nbd7/6. Nbd2|Nbd2]]<br>[[/1. Nf3/1...d5/2. g3/2...Nf6/3. Bg2/3...c6/4. O-O/4...Bg4/5. d3/5...Nbd7/6. Nbd2/6...e5|e5]] || = |} {{-}} == Statistics == [[File:Chess firstMove.png|thumb|333px|First half-move popularity as bar graph]] Approximate chances: White win 39%, Draw 32%, Black win 29% Estimated first half-move popularity:<br>[[/1. e4|e4]] 49%, [[/1. d4|d4]] 33%, [[/1. Nf3|Nf3]] 8%, [[/1. c4|c4]] 6%, [[/1. g3|g3]] 1%, [[/1. b3|b3]] 1%, [[/1. f4|f4]] 1%, all other moves less than 0.5%. {| class="wikitable" |- ! Half-move !! Average !! 365Chess.com (big) !! Chess Tempo (all) !! chessgames.com !! Lichess (masters) !! Lichess (database) |- ! e4 | 48.6% || 49.4 || 47.9 || 46.7 || 45.2 || 54.1 |- ! d4 | 32.9 || 32.7 || 34.0 || 35.1 || 36.1 || 26.7 |- ! Nf3 | 8.4 || 8.6 || 9.0 || 9.3 || 10.1 || 4.8 |- ! c4 | 6.4 || 6.9 || 6.8 || 7.2 || 6.9 || 4.0 |- ! g3 | 1.0 || 0.7 || 0.7 || 0.6 || 0.8 || 2.1 |- ! b3 | 0.7 || 0.4 || 0.6 || 0.4 || 0.4 || 1.9 |- ! f4 | 0.5 || 0.6 || 0.5 || 0.4 || 0.2 || 1.1 |- ! e3 | 0.4 || 0.1 || 0.1 || 0.0 || 0.0 || 2.0 |- ! Nc3 | 0.3 || 0.2 || 0.2 || 0.1 || 0.1 || 0.7 |- ! d3 | 0.2 || 0.1 || 0.1 || 0.0 || 0.0 || 1.1 |- ! b4 | 0.2 || 0.2 || 0.2 || 0.1 || 0.1 || 0.5 |- ! c3 | 0.1 || 0.0 || 0.0 || 0.0 || 0.0 || 0.4 |- ! g4 | 0.1 || 0.0 || 0.0 || 0.0 || 0.0 || 0.3 |- ! everything else | 0.1 || 0.1 || 0.1 || 0.0 || 0.0 || 0.5 |} One might also be curious about the most frequent initial sequences in chess for both White and Black. Below are the first twenty-five most common beginnings. {| class="wikitable" |+ Popularity of Top 25 Full Moves |- ! Move !! Popularity !! Variation |- ! [[/1. e4/1...c5|1. e4 c5]] | 19.0% || Sicilian Defense |- ! [[/1. d4/1...Nf6|1. d4 Nf6]] | 17.1 || Indian Game |- ! [[/1. e4/1...e5|1. e4 e5]] | 12.6 || Open Game |- ! [[/1. d4/1...d5|1. d4 d5]] | 9.4 || Closed Game (Queen's Gambit, etc.) |- ! [[/1. e4/1...e6|1. e4 e6]] | 6.0 || French Defense |- ! [[/1. e4/1...c6|1. e4 c6]] | 3.8 || Caro-Kann Defense |- ! [[/1. Nf3/1...Nf6|1. Nf3 Nf6]] | 3.4 || flexible (including Queen's Pawn or English systems) |- ! [[/1. Nf3/1...d5|1. Nf3 d5]] | 2.3 || flexible (King's Indian Attack, Queen's Gambit, Réti, etc.) |- ! [[/1. e4/1...d5|1. e4 d5]] | 2.0 || Scandinavian Defense |- ! [[/1. e4/1...d6|1. e4 d6]] | 1.9 || Pirc Defense |- ! [[/1. d4/1...e6|1. d4 e6]] | 1.8 || the flexible Horwitz (Queen's Pawn, French, etc.) |- ! [[/1. c4/1...Nf6|1. c4 Nf6]] | 1.8 || Anglo-Indian Defense |- ! [[/1. e4/1...g6|1. e4 g6]] | 1.5 || Modern (Robatsch) Defense |- ! [[/1. c4/1...e5|1. c4 e5]] | 1.5 || Reversed Sicilian |- ! [[/1. d4/1...g6|1. d4 g6]] | 1.0 || Modern Defense (Queen’s Pawn) |- ! [[/1. e4/1...Nf6|1. e4 Nf6]] | 1.0 || Alekhine Defense |- ! [[/1. d4/1...d6|1. d4 d6]] | 1.0 || flexible (Modern, Pirc, King's Indian, Old Indian) |- ! [[/1. Nf3/1...c5|1. Nf3 c5]] | 0.9 || Sicilian, Réti |- ! [[/1. d4/1...f5|1. d4 f5]] | 0.9 || Dutch Defense |- ! [[/1. c4/1...e6|1. c4 e6]] | 0.9 || English |- ! [[/1. c4/1...c5|1. c4 c5]] | 0.7 || Symmetrical English |- ! [[/1. d4/1...c5|1. d4 c5]] | 0.7 || Old Benoni Defense |- ! [[/1. c4/1...g6|1. c4 g6]] | 0.5 || English Great Snake |- ! [[/1. c4/1...c6|1. c4 c6]] | 0.5 || English, Caro-Kann, Slav, or Réti |- ! [[/1. Nf3/1...g6|1. 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Though bone comes in several shapes and sizes the structure and composition of bone is the same in all. ==Structure== ===Gross Structure=== [[Image:Structure of bone.png|thumb|300px|Fig 1:Diagram depicting the Structure of bone]] The human eye can discern only two types of bone. For a surgeon this distinction is what he encounters in the operating room. A cross section of any bone will demonstrate these two types of bones. ''''Compact''' or '''cortical''' bone is usually thick dense bone that forms the outer shell covering almost all bones in the body. The inner aspect consists of bone that is not as dense as cortical bone and has a honeycomb appearance. This is '''cancellous''' bone. In tubular bones, long or short, cancellous bone is usually present at either ends. In irregular or flat bones they make up the entire inner body of the bone. Screws used for fracture fixation differ in structure depending on whether they are used to fix cancellous (less dense) or cortical (more dense) areas. ===Microscopic Structure=== [[Image:Transverse Section Of Bone.png|thumb|250px|Fig 3:Transverse section of decalcified bone x250]] Cross sections of the bone when studied under the microscope reveal quite a different picture. By and large they could be either mineralised or unmineralised ('''Osteoid'''). Osteoid is normally found in children with a growing skeleton. In the transition from cartilage to bone at the growing end of a bone, bone first formed is unmineralised and then calcium salts are laid down giving them the strength of normal bone. Bone formed at the site of fracture healing is also osteoid, which eventually gets minerailised. When mineralisation does not occur adequately as in rickets or Osteomalacia the osteoid content of bone increases. Osteoid is not as strong as normal mineralised bone is and either fractures easily (osteomalacia) or deforms (rickets).</br> Mineralised bone could be either '''Woven Bone''' (Immature) or '''Lamellar Bone''' (mature). The basic microscopic unit of bone is an '''Osteon'''. '''Haversian canals''' run through the entire length of the bone carrying blood vessels. They are interlinked to each other through the '''Volkmans canals'''. On a transverse section of the bone each of these haversian canls is surrounded by a groupd of '''lacunae''', which lodge an '''Osteocyte'''. (Fig 3)The entire group of osteocytes link to each other and to the centrally located haversian canal through cytoplasmic extensions that run throug tiny channels called '''canaliculi'''. The osteocytes derive their nutrition through their cytoplasmic extensions from the vessels in the haversian canal. In mature bone the osteons are arranged in layers (Lamellar bone) while in developing bone they are arranged randomly (woven bone). Lamellar bone makes up the compact or cortical bone in the skeleton. When the same lamellar bone is loosely arranged it makes up trabecular bone. Its called trabecular bone because of the trabecular pattern that shows up on an x-ray. Woven bone is found on the growing ends of an immature skeleton or at the site of fracture healing. ==Composition== [[Image:Composition of bone.png|thumb|300px|Fig 2:Diagram depicting the Composition of bone]] Bone is composed of protein,minerals and cells (see Fig 2) ===Matrix=== Matrix is the ground substance in which the cells of bone exist. The organic components of matrix would be collagen, mucopolysaccharides and a large non-homogenous group of non-collagenous proteins. The other important constituents of the matrix are the inorganic minerals calcium, phosphorus and to a lesser extent magnesium. The matrix forms the extracellular material that binds all the cellular constituents of bone together. ===Cells=== Cells in the human body that are specific to bone are the Osteoprogenitor cells, Osteoblasts, Ostecytes and the Osteoclasts. etg0cqtgtxdzv67uj7otzilisdkga4f Wikibooks:Reading room/Technical Assistance 4 112409 4520798 4519740 2025-07-01T17:07:01Z Codename Noreste 3441010 /* Move MediaWiki:Abusefilter-blocked to MediaWiki:Abusefilter-blocked-display */ new topic ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 4520798 wikitext text/x-wiki __NEWSECTIONLINK__ {{Discussion Rooms}} {{Shortcut|WB:TECH}} {{TOC left}} {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikibooks:Reading room/Archives/%(year)d/%(monthname)s |algo = old(50d) |counter = 1 |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |key = bf05448a5bbfa2d2a4efbdad870e68a4 |minthreadsleft = 1 }} Welcome to the '''Technical Assistance reading room'''. Get assistance on questions related to [[w:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] markup, CSS, JavaScript, and such as they relate to Wikibooks. '''This is not a general-purpose technical support room'''. To submit a ''bug notice or feature request'' for the MediaWiki software, visit [[phabricator:|Phabricator]]. To get more information about the ''MediaWiki software'', or to download your own copy, visit [[mw:|MediaWiki]] There are also two IRC channels for technical help: {{Channel|mediawiki}} for issues about the software, and {{channel|mediawiki-core}} for [[m:WMF|WMF]] server or configuration issues. {{clear}} [[Category:Reading room]] == Edit request to add to [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] == Please add the following CSS code (imported from enwiki). I have tested this on my custom CSS page and it does fully work on making the block entry adapt to dark mode. <syntaxhighlight lang="css"> /* System messages styled similarly to fmbox */ /* for .mw-warning-with-logexcerpt, behavior of this line differs between * the edit-protected notice and the special:Contribs for blocked users * The latter has specificity of 3 classes so we have to triple up here. */ .mw-warning-with-logexcerpt.mw-warning-with-logexcerpt.mw-warning-with-logexcerpt, div.mw-lag-warn-high, div.mw-cascadeprotectedwarning, div#mw-protect-cascadeon { clear: both; margin: 0.2em 0; border: 1px solid #bb7070; background-color: var(--background-color-error-subtle, #ffdbdb); padding: 0.25em 0.9em; box-sizing: border-box; } /* default colors for partial block message */ /* gotta get over the hump introduced by the triple class above */ .mw-contributions-blocked-notice-partial .mw-warning-with-logexcerpt.mw-warning-with-logexcerpt { border-color: #fc3; background-color: var(--background-color-warning-subtle, #fef6e7); } </syntaxhighlight> Thanks. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 22:57, 9 May 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] to confirm, you just want this added? It's not replacing anything? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:03, 23 May 2025 (UTC) : [[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]], I think we might have to replace the following below (currently on common.css):<syntaxhighlight lang="css"> /* User block messages */ div.user-block { padding: 5px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; border: 1px solid #A9A9A9; background-color: #FFEFD5; } </syntaxhighlight>I don't think it will affect the block log color currently on both light and dark modes. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 17:48, 23 May 2025 (UTC) ::{{Done}}, but I didn't remove the <code>user-block</code> class. That class is for user block warning templates, not block log messages. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 22:13, 23 May 2025 (UTC) == Duplicated paragraphs == G'day Guys In "my" Wikibook I have a very large page of potted biographies (about 3,600, now fairly static) here: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies But when I create detailed biographies (currently 100+ and growing), I duplicate the individual potted biography at the start of the detailed biography and also in the list of detailed biographies eg: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies/Clement_Edgar_Ames https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Lists/Detailed_Biographies This is wasteful of space and also means that when I edit the potted biography, I have to edit three instances. Is there a way that I can just create one instance and then autorepeat it in the others? MTIA [[User:Samuel.dellit|Samuel.dellit]] ([[User talk:Samuel.dellit|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Samuel.dellit|contribs]]) 23:54, 23 May 2025 (UTC) :You can use section transclusion; see [[w:Help:Transclusion#Selective transclusion]]. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 00:23, 24 May 2025 (UTC) ::Many thanks for that advice, much appreciated. ::But having read the article, the programming is probably beyond my skills. ::Would it be possible for you, or another SKS, to edit the three pages mentioned in my original post, as an example for me to duplicate? ::TIA[[User:Samuel.dellit|Samuel.dellit]] ([[User talk:Samuel.dellit|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Samuel.dellit|contribs]]) 20:39, 27 May 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] @[[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] @[[User:Minorax|Minorax]] G'day, The above request for assistance was posted two weeks ago, but I have had no response as yet. This has the potential to significantly enhance the Wikibook and I would really appreciate the assistance [[User:Samuel.dellit|Samuel.dellit]] ([[User talk:Samuel.dellit|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Samuel.dellit|contribs]]) 19:58, 6 June 2025 (UTC) ::::I'm not familiar with this, but I might have time to try and figure it out tomorrow. If @[[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] can help (since they seem already familiar), that might be faster. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:37, 7 June 2025 (UTC) :::::Your help with this would be appreciated, transclusion may offer a solution to splitting up the massive potted biographies page that we discussed some months ago also [[User:Samuel.dellit|Samuel.dellit]] ([[User talk:Samuel.dellit|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Samuel.dellit|contribs]]) 21:40, 7 June 2025 (UTC) ::::::Hi @[[User:Samuel.dellit|Samuel.dellit]]—I think I did what you're hoping to do at [[User:Kittycataclysm/sandbox/potted biography transclusion]]. If that's the case, here's what you do: wherever you want to transclude the potted biography from a pre-existing page, insert '''<nowiki>{{#section-h:PAGENAME|SECTIONNAME}}</nowiki>'''. For example: '''<nowiki>{{#section-h:History of wireless telegraphy and broadcasting in Australia/Topical/Biographies/Clement Edgar Ames|Potted Biography}}</nowiki>''' produces the following: ::::::{{#section-h:History of wireless telegraphy and broadcasting in Australia/Topical/Biographies/Clement Edgar Ames|Potted Biography}} ::::::Does this help? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:22, 8 June 2025 (UTC) :::::::Thanks, I can see the process, but that wikimarkup is transcluding from the detailed biographies page, whereas I want to transclude from the biographies page. I tried this code: :::::::<nowiki>{{#section-h:History of wireless telegraphy and broadcasting in Australia/Topical/Biographies|AMES}}</nowiki> :::::::but it is not rendering. I don't know whether the syntax is wrong or the template has problems with the large number of subsections on that page. Any further thoughts? [[User:Samuel.dellit|Samuel.dellit]] ([[User talk:Samuel.dellit|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Samuel.dellit|contribs]]) 23:15, 8 June 2025 (UTC) ::::::::@[[User:Samuel.dellit|Samuel.dellit]]: Sorry for not replying sooner--I've had a lot to do outside of Wikibooks recently. The problem appears to be due to a quirk of [[mw:Extension:Labeled Section Transclusion]]. Basically, you have to list the section name as what it is in ''wikitext'', rather than how it's displayed to the reader. In other words, the correct syntax is ::::::::<pre>{{#section-h:History of wireless telegraphy and broadcasting in Australia/Topical/Biographies|''AMES''}}</pre> [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 00:14, 10 June 2025 (UTC) :::::::::Magic, thank you so much [[User:Samuel.dellit|Samuel.dellit]] ([[User talk:Samuel.dellit|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Samuel.dellit|contribs]]) 08:52, 11 June 2025 (UTC) :::::::::@[[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] @[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] But immediately I have encountered a further issue. :::::::::https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of_wireless_telegraphy_and_broadcasting_in_Australia/Topical/Biographies :::::::::The foregoing syntax works a treat when there is only one potted biography in a section. But many of the sections (ie for more common surnames) include two or more potted biographies and all potted biographies in the section will be transcluded, when I only wish to transclude one. Indeed in a few instances there are several potted biographies in a section and I wish to (separately) transclude two or more. Hope this is clear. Appreciate your further advices. [[User:Samuel.dellit|Samuel.dellit]] ([[User talk:Samuel.dellit|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Samuel.dellit|contribs]]) 19:30, 11 June 2025 (UTC) ::::::::::@[[User:Samuel.dellit|Samuel.dellit]]: In this case, there are two options: ::::::::::# Split off each individual biography into a subsection. For instance, under the ABBOTT header, you could have one header for each person with that surname. This is probably easier, but might make the page needlessly long. ::::::::::# Add <code><nowiki><section begin="[name of person]" /><section end="[name of person]" /></nowiki></code> tags around each individual biography. This won't affect the page aesthetically at all, but will likely be quite tedious. ::::::::::[[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 21:36, 11 June 2025 (UTC) :::::::::::@[[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] Thanks, Item 2 looks to be the way to go, but can you tell me what is wrong with the following syntax which is not rendering: :::::::::::<code><nowiki><section begin="[Leo Pople Anderson]" />* [[/Leo Pople Anderson|Anderson, Leo Pople]] [https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/P92D-H49] - 1895(SA)-1969(NSW) - Licences: XVI Adelaide (Largs Bay, 1912-1914) - Qualifications: Nil yet identified - early wireless experimenter; WW1 (Nil yet identified) - Electoral Rolls: engineer (Bondi, NSW, 1930-1935; Annandale, NSW, 1936-1939; Harbord, NSW, 1946) - TroveTag: "XVI - Leo Pople Anderson" & "!Wikibooks LP Anderson"<section end="[Leo Pople Anderson]" /></nowiki></code> :::::::::::<code><nowiki>{{#section-h:History of wireless telegraphy and broadcasting in Australia/Topical/Biographies|"[Leo Pople Anderson]"}}</nowiki></code> [[User:Samuel.dellit|Samuel.dellit]] ([[User talk:Samuel.dellit|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Samuel.dellit|contribs]]) 20:07, 12 June 2025 (UTC) ::::::::::::@[[User:Samuel.dellit|Samuel.dellit]]: The problem here is that you shouldn't include the square brackets. I used them as a placeholder, not because you actually need them. Also, you don't need the quotation marks around the section name in the <code>{{#section}}</code> tag ('''not''' <code>{{#section-h}}</code>; that tag is only for sections that are defined with ==[name]==, ===[name]===, etc. headers). In other words, it should be: ::::::::::::<pre><section begin="Leo Pople Anderson" />* [[/Leo Pople Anderson|Anderson, Leo Pople]] [https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/P92D-H49] - 1895(SA)-1969(NSW) - Licences: XVI Adelaide (Largs Bay, 1912-1914) - Qualifications: Nil yet identified - early wireless experimenter; WW1 (Nil yet identified) - Electoral Rolls: engineer (Bondi, NSW, 1930-1935; Annandale, NSW, 1936-1939; Harbord, NSW, 1946) - TroveTag: "XVI - Leo Pople Anderson" & "!Wikibooks LP Anderson"<section end="Leo Pople Anderson" /> {{#section:History of wireless telegraphy and broadcasting in Australia/Topical/Biographies|Leo Pople Anderson}}</pre> [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 01:09, 13 June 2025 (UTC) :::::::::::::Thanks so much, works a treat [[User:Samuel.dellit|Samuel.dellit]] ([[User talk:Samuel.dellit|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Samuel.dellit|contribs]]) 19:47, 19 June 2025 (UTC) == article_namespace variable in edit filters == I've noticed that quite a few of the edit filters on this wiki use <code>article_namespace</code>, but it displays in red. [[mw:Extension:AbuseFilter/Rules format|The documentation page for the rules format]] for the AbuseFilter extension says that <code>article_namespace</code> has been deprecated, and <code>page_namespace</code> should be used instead. [[User:TTWIDEE|TTWIDEE]] ([[User talk:TTWIDEE|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/TTWIDEE|contribs]]) 21:05, 28 May 2025 (UTC) : I have already left a similar proposal on [[Wikibooks:Reading room/Proposals#Significant update requests to edit filters]]. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 22:27, 30 May 2025 (UTC) == Review of filter 18 == * [[Special:AbuseFilter/18]] (private) I am recommending a review of this filter; is this even necessary, given that it should be similar to [[m:Special:AbuseFilter/363|global filter 363]] (also private)? Please remember to not discuss this filter's specifics here. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 17:20, 1 June 2025 (UTC) :Referring this over to @[[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]], @[[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]], and @[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:18, 20 June 2025 (UTC) ::I'm OK with disabling the filter. While the global filter is a bit less restrictive, I do not think that is problematic. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 04:37, 20 June 2025 (UTC) :::No problem for me [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 08:12, 20 June 2025 (UTC) == accidental deletion of pages == In the wikibook I created https://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=KPZ_Universality&stable=0, I included some pages but they were deleted and now I can't recover them. Can someone please include the pages as part of the book? I think I made a mistake on the type of pages I created. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Tkojar|Tkojar]] ([[User talk:Tkojar#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tkojar|contribs]]) </small> :Pinging [[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] as deleting admin. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 16:02, 10 June 2025 (UTC) :Is there some admin that can handle this? It's hard to reach particular users. [[User:Tkojar|Tkojar]] ([[User talk:Tkojar|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tkojar|contribs]]) 21:53, 15 June 2025 (UTC) ::I'm confused – [https://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=KPZ_Universality&type=delete the deletion log] indicates othing. //[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 23:46, 15 June 2025 (UTC) :::They're referring to the other pages they created. If I understand correctly, they made a few pages that they intended as subpages of the book, but didn't include them. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 00:59, 16 June 2025 (UTC) ::::Ah, right – yeah feel free to undelete those. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 08:46, 20 June 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Tkojar|Tkojar]] There are a few pages: [[Types of Initial data]], [[Asymmetric Simple Exclusion Process(ASEP)]], [[PushTASEP]], [[Totally Asymmetric Simple Exclusion Process(TASEP)]], [[Anisotropic KPZ]] and [[Two dimensional Turbulence]]. Do you want all of these pages back, as a subpage of [[KPZ Universality]]? [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 05:44, 16 June 2025 (UTC) == Localizing from "abuse filter" to "edit filter" == This project, like the English Wikipedia, uses the term '''edit filter''', so I am bringing a list of interface messages where we might want to localize that term: {{collapse top|Interface messages}} * [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-blockautopromotereason]] <code><nowiki>Autopromotion automatically delayed by edit filter. Rule description: $1</nowiki></code> * [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-edit]] <code><nowiki>Editing filter</nowiki></code> * [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-edit-notallowed]] <code><nowiki>You are not permitted to edit or create edit filters.</nowiki></code> * [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-examine-intro-examine-only]] <code><nowiki>This page allows you to examine the variables generated by the Edit Filter for an individual change.</nowiki></code> * [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-log-entry]] <code><nowiki>$1: $2 {{GENDER:$8|triggered}} an edit filter, {{GENDER:$8|performing}} the action "$3" on $4. Actions taken: $5; Filter description: $6</nowiki></code> * [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-log-entry-withdiff]] <code><nowiki>$1: $2 {{GENDER:$8|triggered}} an edit filter, {{GENDER:$8|performing}} the action "$3" on $4. Actions taken: $5; Filter description: $6 ($7)</nowiki></code> * [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-mustviewprivateoredit]] <code><nowiki>For security reasons, only users with the right to view private edit filters or modify filters may use this interface.</nowiki></code> * [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-tools-text]] <code><nowiki>Here are some tools which may be useful in formulating and debugging edit filters.</nowiki></code> * [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-view-specific]] <code><nowiki>Viewing filter $1: $2</nowiki></code> * [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-invalid-request-noid]] <code><nowiki>Invalid request! You must access private log details through the form on the filter log details page and provide a reason.</nowiki></code> * [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-log-hide-forbidden]] <code><nowiki>You do not have permission to hide filter log entries.</nowiki></code> * [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-log-linkonhistory]] <code><nowiki>view filter log</nowiki></code> * [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-log-linkonhistory-text]] <code><nowiki>View filter log for this page</nowiki></code> {{collapse bottom}} [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 21:11, 12 June 2025 (UTC) :{{Done}}. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 01:28, 13 June 2025 (UTC) == Mark filter 9 as private and/or set it to disallow? == * [[Special:AbuseFilter/9]] Given that autoconfirmed users can view edit filter log entries, I propose marking filter 9 as private ''only'' to keep its log hidden to trusted users. In addition to that, I also propose setting that filter to disallow as well, to prevent additions of personal email addresses to pages. I think we can import the English Wikipedia's [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-disallowed-email]] to here. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 01:31, 20 June 2025 (UTC) :I think this is fine; I cannot think of a valid use-case for a new user to put their email address on a page. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 17:55, 21 June 2025 (UTC) :{{Implemented}}. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 00:57, 22 June 2025 (UTC) == [[Template:Protected interface]] to be used on some MediaWiki interface pages == I partially imported [[Template:Protected interface]] from the English Wikipedia, which can be used on [[MediaWiki:Protectedinterface]], [[MediaWiki:Sitecssprotected]], and [[MediaWiki:Sitejsprotected]]. For the latter two interface pages, I suggest we add the following line to the Protectedinterface page:<br> <code><nowiki>{{#switch:{{#invoke:Page|contentModel|{{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACENUMBER}}|-1|{{#titleparts:{{PAGENAME}}|0|2}}|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}}} |css|javascript=<!-- Defer to [[MediaWiki:Sitecssprotected]] and [[MediaWiki:Sitejsprotected]] --> |#default={{protected interface|$1}} }}</nowiki></code><br> We can also add the following line to Sitecss/jsprotected:<br> <code><nowiki>{{protected interface|$1|type=interface}}</nowiki></code><br> For the template itself, because it is used in system messages, it might require full protection, but I did make sure that I brought out the final version of the protected interface template before protection. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 04:23, 22 June 2025 (UTC) == Move [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-blocked]] to [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-blocked-display]] == Abusefilter-blocked-display is the message shown when a user gets blocked by the edit filter, so I am asking an admin to move Abusefilter-blocked to the correct interface message. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 17:07, 1 July 2025 (UTC) 8l07zaju0yf1nfivimt3wdpnv159wzo A-level Chemistry/OCR (Salters)/Molecular geometry 0 119426 4520889 4519633 2025-07-01T22:57:05Z Д.Ильин 688474 4520889 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Wikipedia|molecular geometry}} '''The shapes of molecules''' is the title of Section 3.3 in ''Chemical Ideas'' and it covers the topic of '''molecular geometry'''. == Introductory examples == === Methane molecule === <center> <gallery> Image:Methane-2D-dot-cross.png|<center>dot-cross diagram</center> Image:Methan Lewis.svg|<center>bond-line diagram</center> Image:Methane-3D-balls.png|<center>ball-and-stick model</center> </gallery> </center> === Ammonia molecule === <center> <gallery> Image:Ammonia-2D-dot-cross.png|<center>dot-cross diagram</center> Image:Ammonia-2D-flat.png|<center>bond-line diagram</center> Image:Ammonia-with-lone-pairs-3D-balls.png|<center>ball-and-stick model with lone pairs displayed</center> Image:Ammonia-3D-balls.png|<center>ball-and-stick model without lone pairs displayed</center> </gallery> </center> === Water molecule === <center> <gallery> Image:Water-2D-dot-cross.png|<center>dot-cross diagram</center> Image:Water with 4 single electrons.svg|<center>bond-line diagram</center> Image:Water-with-lone-pairs-3D-balls.png|<center>ball-and-stick model with lone pairs displayed</center> Image:Water-3D-balls.png|<center>ball-and-stick model without lone pairs displayed</center> </gallery> </center> === Hydrogen fluoride molecule === <center> <gallery> Image:Hydrogen-fluoride-2D-dot-cross.png|<center>dot-cross diagram</center> Image:Hydrogen-fluoride-2D-flat.png|<center>bond-line diagram</center> Image:Hydrogen-fluoride-with-lone-pairs-3D-balls.png|<center>ball-and-stick model with lone pairs displayed</center> Image:Hydrogen-fluoride-3D-balls.png|<center>ball-and-stick model without lone pairs displayed</center> </gallery> </center> == Polyhedra == === Tetrahedra === You have probably come across tetrahedra before in maths, although you most likely called them triangle-based pyramids. Tetrahedra have four vertices (corners), four faces and six edges. Each face is an equilateral triangle. The tetrahedron is one of the most important shapes in chemistry because a very great many molecules contain them. Tetrahedral molecules don't actually contain little pyramids. What they do contain is a central atom bonded to four other atoms. The four atoms surrounding the central atom occupy positions that you can imagine as the vertices of a tetrahedron. In the image gallery below, the central atom is coloured magenta and the surrounding atoms are coloured white. <center> <gallery> Image:Tetrahedron-1-3D-balls.png|<center>a tetrahedral molecule</center> Image:Tetrahedron-2-3D-balls.png|<center>to see the tetrahedron, connect the surrounding atoms with lines</center> Image:Tetrahedron-3-3D-balls.png|<center>the lines form the edges of the tetrahedron</center> Image:Tetrahedron-4-3D-balls.png Image:Tetrahedral-angle-3D-balls.png|<center>tetrahedral angle ≈ 109.5°</center> Image:AX4E0-2D.svg|<center>chemists represent tetrahedra using hashed and wedged bonds</center> Image:Methane-2D-small.png|<center>this is how chemists represent methane</center> Image:Methane-2D-flat-small.png|<center>this 'flat' representation - GCSE-style - is simpler but less realistic</center> </gallery> </center> The angle between any two bonds in a tetrahedral molecule is approximately 109.5°. The tetrahedral angle can be calculated as accurately as required because it is equal to cos<sup>−1</sup>(–⅓). === Octahedra === You may or may not have met an octahedron before. Octahedra have six vertices (corners), eight faces and twelve edges. Each face is an equilateral triangle. Octahedra are very important in chemistry because many [[A-level Chemistry/OCR (Salters)/Complexes|transition metal-based molecules]] are octahedral. <center> <gallery> Image:Octahedron-1-3D-balls.png|<center>an octahedral molecule</center> Image:Octahedron-2-3D-balls.png|<center>to see the octahedron, connect the surrounding atoms with lines</center> Image:Octahedron-3-3D-balls.png|<center>the lines form the edges of the octahedron</center> Image:Octahedron-4-3D-balls.png Image:Octahedral-angle-3D-balls.png|<center>octahedral angle = 90° exactly</center> Image:AX6E0-2D.svg|<center>chemists represent octahedra using hashed and wedged bonds</center> Image:Sulfur-hexafluoride-2D-small.svg|<center>this is how chemists represent sulfur hexafluoride, SF<sub>6</sub></center> Image:Sulfur-hexafluoride-3D-balls.png|<center>a ball-and-stick model of SF<sub>6</sub></center> </gallery> </center> == Common molecular geometries == <center> <gallery> Image:Linear-3D-balls.png|<center>linear</center> Image:Bent-3D-balls.png|<center>bent</center> Image:Trigonal-3D-balls.png|<center>trigonal planar</center> Image:Pyramidal-3D-balls.png|<center>pyramidal</center> Image:Square-planar-3D-balls.png|<center>square planar</center> Image:Tetrahedral-3D-balls.png|<center>tetrahedral</center> Image:Trigonal-bipyramidal-3D-balls.png|<center>trigonal bipyramidal</center> Image:Octahedral-3D-balls.png|<center>octahedral</center> </gallery> </center> == Further examples == === Example molecules === <center> <gallery> Image:Carbon-dioxide-3D-balls.png|<center>linear: CO<sub>2</sub></center> Image:Hydrogen-sulfide-3D-balls.png|<center>bent: H<sub>2</sub>S</center> Image:Boron-triiodide-3D-balls.png|<center>trigonal planar: BI<sub>3</sub></center> Image:Ammonia-3D-balls.png|<center>pyramidal: NH<sub>3</sub></center> Image:Xenon-tetrafluoride-3D-balls.png|<center>square planar: XeF<sub>4</sub></center> Image:Methane-3D-balls.png|<center>tetrahedral: CH<sub>4</sub></center> Image:Phosphorus-pentachloride-3D-balls.png|<center>trigonal bipyramidal: [[w:phosphorus pentachloride|PCl<sub>5</sub>]]</center> Image:Sulfur-hexafluoride-3D-balls.png|<center>octahedral: [[w:sulfur hexafluoride|SF<sub>6</sub>]]</center> </gallery> </center> === Example ions === <center> <gallery> Image:Hydroxide-3D-balls.png|<center>linear:<br>[[w:hydroxide|hydroxide]], OH<sup>−</sup></center> Image:Carbonate-3D-balls.png|<center>trigonal planar:<br>[[w:carbonate|carbonate]], CO<sub>3</sub><sup>2−</sup></center> Image:Nitrate-3D-balls.png|<center>trigonal planar:<br>[[w:nitrate|nitrate]], NO<sub>3</sub><sup>−</sup></center> Image:Hydronium-3D-balls.png|<center>trigonal pyramidal:<br>[[w:hydronium|hydronium]], H<sub>3</sub>O<sup>+</sup></center> Image:Thiosulfate-3D-balls.png|<center>tetrahedral:<br>[[w:thiosulfate|thiosulfate]], S<sub>2</sub>O<sub>3</sub><sup>2−</sup></center> Image:Sulfate-3D-balls.png|<center>tetrahedral:<br>[[w:sulfate|sulfate]], SO<sub>4</sub><sup>2−</sup></center> Image:Phosphate-3D-balls.png|<center>tetrahedral:<br>[[w:phosphate|phosphate]], PO<sub>4</sub><sup>3−</sup></center> Image:Ammonium-3D-balls.png|<center>tetrahedral:<br>[[w:ammonium|ammonium]], NH<sub>4</sub><sup>+</sup></center> </gallery> </center> == Molecular geometry and lone pairs == You can use the so-called ''AXE method'' to calculate the shape of a molecule. It is based on molecules that have a central atom, which we label A. Atoms or groups bonded to A are labelled X. Lone pairs are labelled E. A molecule with three lone pairs and two atoms/groups bonded to it would be denoted AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>3</sub>. The table below shows how X and E and molecular shape are related. Valence shell electron pair repulsion theory (VSEPR) is used to predict the shape of a molecule once X and E are known. This sounds more complicated than it is. You consider any X's and E's to be regions of charge that position themselves as far apart from each other as possible, in order to minimize the forces of electrostatic repulsion between each other. <center> {| class="wikitable" |- ! AXE label ! X<br><small>(substituents)</small> ! E<br><small>(lone pairs)</small> ! Shape ! 2D diagram<br><small>lone pairs shown</small> ! 2D diagram <br><small>lone pairs not shown</small> ! 3D model<br><small>lone pairs shown</small> ! 3D model<br><small>lone pairs not shown</small> ! Examples |- ! AX<sub>1</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | <center>1</center> | <center>0</center> | Linear | [[Image:AX1E0-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E0-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:dihydrogen|H<sub>2</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>1</sub>E<sub>1</sub> | <center>1</center> | <center>1</center> | Linear | [[Image:AX1E1-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E0-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E1-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:cyanide|CN<sup>−</sup>]] |- ! AX<sub>1</sub>E<sub>2</sub> | <center>1</center> | <center>2</center> | Linear | [[Image:AX1E2-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E0-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E2-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:allotropes of oxygen#dioxygen|O<sub>2</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>1</sub>E<sub>3</sub> | <center>1</center> | <center>3</center> | Linear | [[Image:AX1E3-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E0-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E3-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:hydrogen chloride|HCl]] |- ! AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | <center>2</center> | <center>0</center> | Linear | [[Image:AX2E0-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX2E0-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX2E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Linear-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:beryllium chloride|BeCl<sub>2</sub>]]<br>[[w:mercury(II) chloride|HgCl<sub>2</sub>]]<br>[[w:carbon dioxide|CO<sub>2</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>1</sub> | <center>2</center> | <center>1</center> | Bent | [[Image:AX2E1-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX2-bent-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX2E1-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Bent-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:nitrite|NO<sub>2</sub><sup>−</sup>]]<br>[[w:sulfur dioxide|SO<sub>2</sub>]]<br>[[w:ozone|O<sub>3</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>2</sub> | <center>2</center> | <center>2</center> | Bent | [[Image:AX2E2-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX2-bent-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX2E2-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Bent-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:water (molecule)|H<sub>2</sub>O]]<br>[[w:hydrogen sulfide|H<sub>2</sub>S]]<br>[[w:oxygen difluoride|OF<sub>2</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>3</sub> | <center>2</center> | <center>3</center> | Linear | [[Image:AX2E3-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX2E0-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX2E3-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Linear-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:xenon difluoride|XeF<sub>2</sub>]]<br>[[w:triiodide|I<sub>3</sub><sup>−</sup>]] |- ! AX<sub>3</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | <center>3</center> | <center>0</center> | Trigonal planar | [[Image:AX3E0-side-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX3E0-side-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX3E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Trigonal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:boron trifluoride|BF<sub>3</sub>]]<br>[[w:carbonate|CO<sub>3</sub><sup>2−</sup>]]<br>[[w:nitrate|NO<sub>3</sub><sup>−</sup>]]<br>[[w:sulfur trioxide|SO<sub>3</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>3</sub>E<sub>1</sub> | <center>3</center> | <center>1</center> | Trigonal pyramidal | [[Image:AX3E1-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX3-pyramidal-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX3E1-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Pyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:ammonia|NH<sub>3</sub>]]<br>[[w:phosphorus trichloride|PCl<sub>3</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>3</sub>E<sub>2</sub> | <center>3</center> | <center>2</center> | T-shaped | [[Image:AX3E2-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX3-T-shaped-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX3E2-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:T-shaped-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:chlorine trifluoride|ClF<sub>3</sub>]]<br>[[w:bromine trifluoride|BrF<sub>3</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>4</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | <center>4</center> | <center>0</center> | Tetrahedral | [[Image:AX4E0-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX4E0-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX4E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Tetrahedral-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:methane|CH<sub>4</sub>]]<br>[[w:ammonium|NH<sub>4</sub><sup>+</sup>]]<br>[[w:phosphate|PO<sub>4</sub><sup>3−</sup>]]<br>[[w:sulfate|SO<sub>4</sub><sup>2−</sup>]]<br>[[w:perchlorate|ClO<sub>4</sub><sup>−</sup>]] |- ! AX<sub>4</sub>E<sub>1</sub> | <center>4</center> | <center>1</center> | Seesaw | [[Image:AX4E1-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX4-seesaw-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX4E1-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Seesaw-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:sulfur tetrafluoride|SF<sub>4</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>4</sub>E<sub>2</sub> | <center>4</center> | <center>2</center> | Square Planar | [[Image:AX4E2-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX4-square-planar-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX4E2-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Square-planar-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:xenon tetrafluoride|XeF<sub>4</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>5</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | <center>5</center> | <center>0</center> | Trigonal Bipyramidal | [[Image:AX5E0-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX5E0-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:Trigonal-bipyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Trigonal-bipyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:phosphorus pentachloride|PCl<sub>5</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>5</sub>E<sub>1</sub> | <center>5</center> | <center>1</center> | Square pyramidal | [[Image:AX5E1-2D-1.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX5-square-pyramidal-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX5E1-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Square-pyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:chlorine pentafluoride|ClF<sub>5</sub>]]<br>[[w:bromine pentafluoride|BrF<sub>5</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>5</sub>E<sub>2</sub> | <center>5</center> | <center>2</center> | Pentagonal planar | [[Image:AX5E2-2D.png|100px]] | | [[Image:AX5E2-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Pentagonal-planar-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:tetramethylammonium pentafluoroxenate|XeF<sub>5</sub><sup>-</sup>]] |- ! AX<sub>6</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | <center>6</center> | <center>0</center> | Octahedral | [[Image:AX6E0-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX6E0-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX6E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Octahedral-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:sulfur hexafluoride|SF<sub>6</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>6</sub>E<sub>1</sub> | <center>6</center> | <center>1</center> | Pentagonal pyramidal | [[Image:AX6E1-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX6-pentagonal-pyramidal-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX6E1-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Pentagonal-pyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | IF<sub>6</sub><sup>-</sup> |- ! AX<sub>7</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | <center>7</center> | <center>0</center> | Pentagonal bipyramidal | [[Image:AX7E0-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX7E0-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX7E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Pentagonal-bipyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:iodine heptafluoride|IF<sub>7</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>8</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | <center>8</center> | <center>0</center> | Square antiprismatic | | | [[Image:AX8E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Square-antiprismatic-3D-balls.png|100px]] | IF<sub>8</sub><sup>-</sup> |- ! AX<sub>8</sub>E<sub>1</sub> | <center>8</center> | <center>1</center> | Distorted square antiprismatic | | | | [[Image:Square-antiprismatic-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:nitrosonium octafluoroxenate(VI)|XeF<sub>8</sub><sup>2-</sup>]] |- ! AX<sub>9</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | <center>9</center> | <center>0</center> | Tricapped trigonal prismatic OR capped square antiprismatic | | | [[Image:AX9E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX9E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:potassium nonahydridorhenate|ReH<sub>9</sub><sup>2-</sup>]] (tricapped trigonal prismatic) |} </center> {{BookCat}} 8dn570gqmvfevf0xn5ogytw3htiwje6 4520894 4520889 2025-07-01T23:32:08Z Д.Ильин 688474 4520894 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Wikipedia|molecular geometry}} '''The shapes of molecules''' is the title of Section 3.3 in ''Chemical Ideas'' and it covers the topic of '''molecular geometry'''. == Introductory examples == === Methane molecule === <center> <gallery> Image:Methane-2D-dot-cross.png|<center>dot-cross diagram</center> Image:Methan Lewis.svg|<center>bond-line diagram</center> Image:Methane-3D-balls.png|<center>ball-and-stick model</center> </gallery> </center> === Ammonia molecule === <center> <gallery> Image:Ammonia-2D-dot-cross.png|<center>dot-cross diagram</center> Image:Ammonia-2D-flat.png|<center>bond-line diagram</center> Image:Ammonia-with-lone-pairs-3D-balls.png|<center>ball-and-stick model with lone pairs displayed</center> Image:Ammonia-3D-balls.png|<center>ball-and-stick model without lone pairs displayed</center> </gallery> </center> === Water molecule === <center> <gallery> Image:Water-2D-dot-cross.png|<center>dot-cross diagram</center> Image:Water with 4 single electrons.svg|<center>bond-line diagram</center> Image:Water-with-lone-pairs-3D-balls.png|<center>ball-and-stick model with lone pairs displayed</center> Image:Water-3D-balls.png|<center>ball-and-stick model without lone pairs displayed</center> </gallery> </center> === Hydrogen fluoride molecule === <center> <gallery> Image:Hydrogen-fluoride-2D-dot-cross.png|<center>dot-cross diagram</center> Image:Hydrogen-fluoride-2D-flat.png|<center>bond-line diagram</center> Image:Hydrogen-fluoride-with-lone-pairs-3D-balls.png|<center>ball-and-stick model with lone pairs displayed</center> Image:Hydrogen-fluoride-3D-balls.png|<center>ball-and-stick model without lone pairs displayed</center> </gallery> </center> == Polyhedra == === Tetrahedra === You have probably come across tetrahedra before in maths, although you most likely called them triangle-based pyramids. Tetrahedra have four vertices (corners), four faces and six edges. Each face is an equilateral triangle. The tetrahedron is one of the most important shapes in chemistry because a very great many molecules contain them. Tetrahedral molecules don't actually contain little pyramids. What they do contain is a central atom bonded to four other atoms. The four atoms surrounding the central atom occupy positions that you can imagine as the vertices of a tetrahedron. In the image gallery below, the central atom is coloured magenta and the surrounding atoms are coloured white. <center> <gallery> Image:Tetrahedron-1-3D-balls.png|<center>a tetrahedral molecule</center> Image:Tetrahedron-2-3D-balls.png|<center>to see the tetrahedron, connect the surrounding atoms with lines</center> Image:Tetrahedron-3-3D-balls.png|<center>the lines form the edges of the tetrahedron</center> Image:Tetrahedron-4-3D-balls.png Image:Tetrahedral-angle-3D-balls.png|<center>tetrahedral angle ≈ 109.5°</center> Image:AX4E0-2D.svg|<center>chemists represent tetrahedra using hashed and wedged bonds</center> Image:Methane-2D-small.png|<center>this is how chemists represent methane</center> Image:Methane-2D-flat-small.png|<center>this 'flat' representation - GCSE-style - is simpler but less realistic</center> </gallery> </center> The angle between any two bonds in a tetrahedral molecule is approximately 109.5°. The tetrahedral angle can be calculated as accurately as required because it is equal to cos<sup>−1</sup>(–⅓). === Octahedra === You may or may not have met an octahedron before. Octahedra have six vertices (corners), eight faces and twelve edges. Each face is an equilateral triangle. Octahedra are very important in chemistry because many [[A-level Chemistry/OCR (Salters)/Complexes|transition metal-based molecules]] are octahedral. <center> <gallery> Image:Octahedron-1-3D-balls.png|<center>an octahedral molecule</center> Image:Octahedron-2-3D-balls.png|<center>to see the octahedron, connect the surrounding atoms with lines</center> Image:Octahedron-3-3D-balls.png|<center>the lines form the edges of the octahedron</center> Image:Octahedron-4-3D-balls.png Image:Octahedral-angle-3D-balls.png|<center>octahedral angle = 90° exactly</center> Image:AX6E0-2D.svg|<center>chemists represent octahedra using hashed and wedged bonds</center> Image:Sulfur-hexafluoride-2D-small.svg|<center>this is how chemists represent sulfur hexafluoride, SF<sub>6</sub></center> Image:Sulfur-hexafluoride-3D-balls.png|<center>a ball-and-stick model of SF<sub>6</sub></center> </gallery> </center> == Common molecular geometries == <center> <gallery> Image:Linear-3D-balls.png|<center>linear</center> Image:Bent-3D-balls.png|<center>bent</center> Image:Trigonal-3D-balls.png|<center>trigonal planar</center> Image:Pyramidal-3D-balls.png|<center>pyramidal</center> Image:Square-planar-3D-balls.png|<center>square planar</center> Image:Tetrahedral-3D-balls.png|<center>tetrahedral</center> Image:Trigonal-bipyramidal-3D-balls.png|<center>trigonal bipyramidal</center> Image:Octahedral-3D-balls.png|<center>octahedral</center> </gallery> </center> == Further examples == === Example molecules === <center> <gallery> Image:Carbon-dioxide-3D-balls.png|<center>linear: CO<sub>2</sub></center> Image:Hydrogen-sulfide-3D-balls.png|<center>bent: H<sub>2</sub>S</center> Image:Boron-triiodide-3D-balls.png|<center>trigonal planar: BI<sub>3</sub></center> Image:Ammonia-3D-balls.png|<center>pyramidal: NH<sub>3</sub></center> Image:Xenon-tetrafluoride-3D-balls.png|<center>square planar: XeF<sub>4</sub></center> Image:Methane-3D-balls.png|<center>tetrahedral: CH<sub>4</sub></center> Image:Phosphorus-pentachloride-3D-balls.png|<center>trigonal bipyramidal: [[w:phosphorus pentachloride|PCl<sub>5</sub>]]</center> Image:Sulfur-hexafluoride-3D-balls.png|<center>octahedral: [[w:sulfur hexafluoride|SF<sub>6</sub>]]</center> </gallery> </center> === Example ions === <center> <gallery> Image:Hydroxide-3D-balls.png|<center>linear:<br>[[w:hydroxide|hydroxide]], OH<sup>−</sup></center> Image:Carbonate-3D-balls.png|<center>trigonal planar:<br>[[w:carbonate|carbonate]], CO<sub>3</sub><sup>2−</sup></center> Image:Nitrate-3D-balls.png|<center>trigonal planar:<br>[[w:nitrate|nitrate]], NO<sub>3</sub><sup>−</sup></center> Image:Hydronium-3D-balls.png|<center>trigonal pyramidal:<br>[[w:hydronium|hydronium]], H<sub>3</sub>O<sup>+</sup></center> Image:Thiosulfate-3D-balls.png|<center>tetrahedral:<br>[[w:thiosulfate|thiosulfate]], S<sub>2</sub>O<sub>3</sub><sup>2−</sup></center> Image:Sulfate-3D-balls.png|<center>tetrahedral:<br>[[w:sulfate|sulfate]], SO<sub>4</sub><sup>2−</sup></center> Image:Phosphate-3D-balls.png|<center>tetrahedral:<br>[[w:phosphate|phosphate]], PO<sub>4</sub><sup>3−</sup></center> Image:Ammonium-3D-balls.png|<center>tetrahedral:<br>[[w:ammonium|ammonium]], NH<sub>4</sub><sup>+</sup></center> </gallery> </center> == Molecular geometry and lone pairs == You can use the so-called ''AXE method'' to calculate the shape of a molecule. It is based on molecules that have a central atom, which we label A. Atoms or groups bonded to A are labelled X. Lone pairs are labelled E. A molecule with three lone pairs and two atoms/groups bonded to it would be denoted AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>3</sub>. The table below shows how X and E and molecular shape are related. Valence shell electron pair repulsion theory (VSEPR) is used to predict the shape of a molecule once X and E are known. This sounds more complicated than it is. You consider any X's and E's to be regions of charge that position themselves as far apart from each other as possible, in order to minimize the forces of electrostatic repulsion between each other. <center> {| class="wikitable" |- ! AXE label ! X<br><small>(substituents)</small> ! E<br><small>(lone pairs)</small> ! Shape ! 2D diagram<br><small>lone pairs shown</small> ! 2D diagram <br><small>lone pairs not shown</small> ! 3D model<br><small>lone pairs shown</small> ! 3D model<br><small>lone pairs not shown</small> ! Examples |- ! AX<sub>1</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | <center>1</center> | <center>0</center> | Linear | [[Image:AX1E0-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E0-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:dihydrogen|H<sub>2</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>1</sub>E<sub>1</sub> | <center>1</center> | <center>1</center> | Linear | [[Image:AX1E1-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E0-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E1-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:cyanide|CN<sup>−</sup>]] |- ! AX<sub>1</sub>E<sub>2</sub> | <center>1</center> | <center>2</center> | Linear | [[Image:AX1E2-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E0-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E2-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:allotropes of oxygen#dioxygen|O<sub>2</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>1</sub>E<sub>3</sub> | <center>1</center> | <center>3</center> | Linear | [[Image:AX1E3-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E0-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E3-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX1E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:hydrogen chloride|HCl]] |- ! AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | <center>2</center> | <center>0</center> | Linear | [[Image:AX2E0-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX2E0-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX2E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Linear-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:beryllium chloride|BeCl<sub>2</sub>]]<br>[[w:mercury(II) chloride|HgCl<sub>2</sub>]]<br>[[w:carbon dioxide|CO<sub>2</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>1</sub> | <center>2</center> | <center>1</center> | Bent | [[Image:AX2E1-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX2-bent-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX2E1-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Bent-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:nitrite|NO<sub>2</sub><sup>−</sup>]]<br>[[w:sulfur dioxide|SO<sub>2</sub>]]<br>[[w:ozone|O<sub>3</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>2</sub> | <center>2</center> | <center>2</center> | Bent | [[Image:AX2E2-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX2-bent-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX2E2-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Bent-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:water (molecule)|H<sub>2</sub>O]]<br>[[w:hydrogen sulfide|H<sub>2</sub>S]]<br>[[w:oxygen difluoride|OF<sub>2</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>3</sub> | <center>2</center> | <center>3</center> | Linear | [[Image:AX2E3-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX2E0-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX2E3-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Linear-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:xenon difluoride|XeF<sub>2</sub>]]<br>[[w:triiodide|I<sub>3</sub><sup>−</sup>]] |- ! AX<sub>3</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | <center>3</center> | <center>0</center> | Trigonal planar | [[Image:AX3E0-side-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX3E0-side-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX3E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Trigonal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:boron trifluoride|BF<sub>3</sub>]]<br>[[w:carbonate|CO<sub>3</sub><sup>2−</sup>]]<br>[[w:nitrate|NO<sub>3</sub><sup>−</sup>]]<br>[[w:sulfur trioxide|SO<sub>3</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>3</sub>E<sub>1</sub> | <center>3</center> | <center>1</center> | Trigonal pyramidal | [[Image:AX3E1-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX3-pyramidal-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX3E1-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Pyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:ammonia|NH<sub>3</sub>]]<br>[[w:phosphorus trichloride|PCl<sub>3</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>3</sub>E<sub>2</sub> | <center>3</center> | <center>2</center> | T-shaped | [[Image:AX3E2-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX3-T-shaped-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX3E2-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:T-shaped-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:chlorine trifluoride|ClF<sub>3</sub>]]<br>[[w:bromine trifluoride|BrF<sub>3</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>4</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | <center>4</center> | <center>0</center> | Tetrahedral | [[Image:AX4E0-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX4E0-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX4E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Tetrahedral-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:methane|CH<sub>4</sub>]]<br>[[w:ammonium|NH<sub>4</sub><sup>+</sup>]]<br>[[w:phosphate|PO<sub>4</sub><sup>3−</sup>]]<br>[[w:sulfate|SO<sub>4</sub><sup>2−</sup>]]<br>[[w:perchlorate|ClO<sub>4</sub><sup>−</sup>]] |- ! AX<sub>4</sub>E<sub>1</sub> | <center>4</center> | <center>1</center> | Seesaw | [[Image:AX4E1-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX4-seesaw-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX4E1-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Seesaw-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:sulfur tetrafluoride|SF<sub>4</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>4</sub>E<sub>2</sub> | <center>4</center> | <center>2</center> | Square Planar | [[Image:AX4E2-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX4-square-planar-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX4E2-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Square-planar-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:xenon tetrafluoride|XeF<sub>4</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>5</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | <center>5</center> | <center>0</center> | Trigonal Bipyramidal | [[Image:AX5E0-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX5E0-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:Trigonal-bipyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Trigonal-bipyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:phosphorus pentachloride|PCl<sub>5</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>5</sub>E<sub>1</sub> | <center>5</center> | <center>1</center> | Square pyramidal | [[Image:AX5E1-2D-1.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX5-square-pyramidal-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX5E1-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Square-pyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:chlorine pentafluoride|ClF<sub>5</sub>]]<br>[[w:bromine pentafluoride|BrF<sub>5</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>5</sub>E<sub>2</sub> | <center>5</center> | <center>2</center> | Pentagonal planar | [[Image:AX5E2-2D.png|100px]] | | [[Image:AX5E2-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Pentagonal-planar-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:tetramethylammonium pentafluoroxenate|XeF<sub>5</sub><sup>-</sup>]] |- ! AX<sub>6</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | <center>6</center> | <center>0</center> | Octahedral | [[Image:AX6E0-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX6E0-2D.svg|100px]] | [[Image:AX6E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Octahedral-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:sulfur hexafluoride|SF<sub>6</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>6</sub>E<sub>1</sub> | <center>6</center> | <center>1</center> | Pentagonal pyramidal | [[Image:AX6E1-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX6-pentagonal-pyramidal-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX6E1-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Pentagonal-pyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | IF<sub>6</sub><sup>-</sup> |- ! AX<sub>7</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | <center>7</center> | <center>0</center> | Pentagonal bipyramidal | [[Image:AX7E0-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX7E0-2D.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX7E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Pentagonal-bipyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:iodine heptafluoride|IF<sub>7</sub>]] |- ! AX<sub>8</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | <center>8</center> | <center>0</center> | Square antiprismatic | | | [[Image:AX8E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:Square-antiprismatic-3D-balls.png|100px]] | IF<sub>8</sub><sup>-</sup> |- ! AX<sub>8</sub>E<sub>1</sub> | <center>8</center> | <center>1</center> | Distorted square antiprismatic | | | | [[Image:Square-antiprismatic-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:nitrosonium octafluoroxenate(VI)|XeF<sub>8</sub><sup>2-</sup>]] |- ! AX<sub>9</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | <center>9</center> | <center>0</center> | Tricapped trigonal prismatic OR capped square antiprismatic | | | [[Image:AX9E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[Image:AX9E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[w:potassium nonahydridorhenate|ReH<sub>9</sub><sup>2-</sup>]] (tricapped trigonal prismatic) |} </center> {{BookCat}} ov9dkvels59ehx1jd4bcqfk0um5u30n Applied History of Psychology/Theories on Intelligence 0 124982 4520930 4099287 2025-07-02T11:22:02Z WereSpielChequers 248949 typo 4520930 wikitext text/x-wiki During the era of psychometrics and behaviourism, intelligence was thought to be a single, inherit entity. The human mind was believed by some to be a "blank slate" that could be educated and trained to learn anything if taught in the appropriate manner. However, contrary to this notion, an increasing number of researchers and psychologists now believe that the opposite is true; that is, individuals are born with and possess different levels of ability. The development and use of intelligence tests have been one way that researchers and psychologists have attempted to support their argument. Gardner (1993) expresses this view quite elegantly, stating that "there exists a multitude of intelligences, quite independent of each other; that each intelligence has its own strengths and constraints; that the mind is far from unencumbered at birth; and that it is unexpectedly difficult to teach things that go against early 'naive' theories that challenge the natural lines of force within an intelligence and its matching domains." ==Howard Gardner== Howard Gardner has earned his place in psychological history for revolutionizing education with his ''Theory of Multiple Intelligences'' (1983). Howard Gardner was born in Scranton Pennsylvania in 1943, five years after his parents fled from Nürnberg, Germany. The family's loss of Howard's older brother resulted in his being raised in a protective environment that favoured the pursuit of intellectual interests over adventure (Winner, 2007). As a young man, Gardner attended Harvard University with the intention of studying law. This notion changed, however, he met a number of influential individuals: psychoanalyst Eric Erikson, sociologist David Riesman, and cognitive psychologist Jerome Bruner. Gardner was consequentially inspired to pursue interests in psychology and social sciences (Winner, 2007). Gardner graduated summa cum laude from Harvard University in 1965, and entered Harvard University's Doctoral programme in 1966. In 1967, he began working on Project Zero—a research team on arts education. This pursuit became a forum for Gardner to explore his interest in human cognition; it also became a passionate commitment that would span over twenty years (Winner, 2007). By 1971, Gardner earned his PhD from Harvard, completing his dissertation on style and sensitivity in children. He then lectured at Harvard until 1986, when he began teaching at the Harvard Graduate School of Education (Winner, 2007). To date, Howard Gardner has received honorary degrees from twenty-one different colleges and universities. Internationally, these include institutions in Ireland, Italy, Israel, and Chile. He continues to co-direct Project Zero with David Perkins. Some of Gardner's accomplishments include the following: *First American to receive the University of Louisville's Grawemeyer Award in Education in 1990 *Received a Fellowship from the Hohn S. Guggenheim Memorial Foundation in 2002 * Named an Honorary Professor at East China Normal University in Shanghai in 2004 *Selected by Foreign Policy and Prospect magazines as one of the 100 most influential intellectuals in the world in 2005 Gardner's first major book, ''The Shattered Mind'', was published in 1975. He would write and publish at least fifteen more major books. Some of these works include: ''Frames of Mind: The Theory of Multiple Intelligence'' (1983), ''To Open Minds: Chinese Clues to the Dilemma of Contemporary Education'' (1989), ''The Unschooled Mind: How Children Think and How Schools Should Teach'' (1991), ''Frames of Mind: The Theory of Multiple Intelligence'' (1993)—this second edition celebrated the ten year anniversary of the original work, ''Intelligence Reframed: Multiple Intelligences for the 21st Century'' (1999), and ''The Disciplined Mind: Beyond Facts and Standardized Tests: The K-12 Education that Every Child Deserves'' (1999). Howard Gardner viewed intelligence as "the capacity to solve problems or to fashion products that are valued in one or more cultural settings" (Gardner & Hatch, 1989). He is most known for his work on the ''Theory of Multiple Intelligences''. ===Theory of Multiple Intelligences=== Howard Gardner's (1983) original theory of Multiple Intelligences comprised seven types of intelligences: *'''Linguistic Intelligence''' :Linguistic intelligence is the ability to learn languages and to use one's skill in using language effectively to accomplish specific goals. Individuals high in linguistic intelligence are often writers, poets, and lawyers. *'''Logical-Mathematical Intelligence''' :Logical-mathematical intelligence is the ability to analyze problems logically. It includes skill at completing mathematical operations and solving mathematical problems as well as the ability to investigate hypotheses scientifically. Those high in logical-mathematical intelligence tend to be logical thinkers with high deductive reasoning skills. *'''Spatial Intelligence''' :Spatial intelligence refers to an individual's ability to represent the spatial world in his or her own mind. It includes skill at recognizing and using patterns. Architects, urban planners, geographers, cartographers, pilots, and sailors tend to be high in spatial intelligence abilities. *'''Musical Intelligence''' :Musical intelligence includes abilities in composing and performing music and in recognizing and composing musical pitches, tones, and rhythms. It also includes skills in recognizing and appreciating musical patterns. Individuals high in musical intelligence may have talents in vocal and/or instrumental abilities. *'''Bodily-Kinesthetic Intelligence''' :Bodily-kinesthetic intelligence refers to an individual's ability to use mental abilities to coordinate bodily movements. According to Gardner, mental and physical abilities are related. Athletes, dancers, actors, and performers often display high levels of bodily-kinesthetic intelligence. *'''Interpersonal Intelligence''' :Interpersonal intelligence is concerned with an individual's ability understand the intentions, motivations, and desires of other people. Such skills are beneficial in working and getting along with others. Those high in interpersonal intelligence are often educators, salespeople, religious and political leaders, counsellors and social workers. *'''Intrapersonal Intelligence''' :Intrapersonal intelligence refers to the capacity to understand oneself--one's thoughts, feelings, fears, desires, and motivations. It includes the ability to use this knowledge toward successful outcomes. Writers and artists often demonstrate intrapersonal intelligence in their work. Howard Gardner's Theory of Multiple Intelligences has received strong positive responses from educators, who readily adapted his work to applied settings in the classroom. Since Gardner's original listing of the seven intelligences, other possible candidates or forms of intelligence have been discussed and considered for inclusion. These forms of intelligence include: *'''Naturalist Intelligence''' :Naturalist intelligence refers to an individual's ability to recognize, categorize, and draw upon certain features of the environment. *'''Spiritual Intelligence''' :Spiritual intelligence explores the nature of existence. *'''Existential Intelligence''' :Existential intelligence refers to the concern with the "ultimate issues." *'''Moral Intelligence''' :Moral Intelligence refers to the concern with rules, behaviours, and attitudes that govern the sanctity of human life as well as lives of other living creatures and the world they live in. ==Robert Sternberg== Robert J. Sternberg may be considered one of the most prominent psychologists of this century. In addition to his theoretical contributions, Sternberg is the author of over 1100 published works. His major contributions to psychology have been his work on intelligence, creativity, and wisdom. Robert J. Sternberg was born on December 8, 1949. From an early age, he was interested in intelligence, and at the age of 13 he designed and wrote his first intelligence test. Sternberg graduated in psychology from Yale University in 1972, and then went on to earn his Ph.D. from Stanford University in 1975. He also holds five honorary doctorates. Sternberg’s work in studying various types of intelligence led to development of his ''Triarchic Theory of Human Intelligence'' (1985). In 2004, he was IBM Professor of Psychology and Education, Professor of Management in the School of Management, and Director of the Center for the Psychology of Abilities, Competencies, and Expertise at Yale University. This centre has been relocated to Tufts University (2007). Sternberg was President-Elect of the Eastern Psychological Association from 2005-2006 (Tufts, 2007). Robert J. Sternberg is currently Dean of Arts and Sciences at Tufts University. His commitments and accomplishments in the fields of psychology and education are many: *The American Psychological Foundation Board of Directors *The Editorial Board of Intelligence *The American Academy of Arts and Sciences *The American Association for the Advancement of Science *The American Psychological Association—in 15 divisions *The American Psychological Society *The Connecticut Psychological Association *The Royal Norwegian Society of Sciences and Letters *The International Association for Empirical Aesthetics *The Laureate Chapter of Kappa Delta Pi *The Society of Experimental Psychologists *Former president of the APA Divisions of General Psychology, Educational Psychology, Psychology and the Arts, and Theoretical and Philosophical Psychology of the APA *Past Editor of the Psychological Bulletin and The APA Review of Books: Contemporary Psychology. * Winner of awards from APA, AERA, APS, to name a few (Tufts, 2007) Some of Sternberg’s published works on intelligence include: ''Successful Intelligence'' (1998), ''Teaching for Successful Intelligence'' (1998), ''Handbook of Creativity'' (1999), ''Practical Intelligence in Everyday life'' (2000), and ''Why Schools Should Teach for Wisdom: The Balance Theory of Wisdom in Educational Settings'' (2001). Sternberg (1985) holds that conventional measures of intelligence, such as SATs and IQ tests, fail to identify the high abilities many individuals possess. He recognizes that some intelligence abilities not measured by traditional means may be beneficial to one’s academic, professional, and personal success. From this perspective, traditional educational methods can be problematic for their tendency to favour students with strong memory and analytical skills (Sternberg, 1985). Oftentimes, students with strong creative and practical skills are disadvantaged due to teaching methods that do not allow them to demonstrate their strengths and skills (Sternberg, 1985). Sternberg also criticizes traditional methods for a tendency to favour students of higher socio-economic backgrounds. His research led to the development of the ''Triarchic Theory of Human Intelligence'' and the theory of ''Successful Intelligence''. ===Triarchic Theory of Human Intelligence=== Sternberg's (1985) Triarchic Theory of Human Intelligence includes three facets: *'''Analytical Intelligence''' (componential) :Analytical Intelligence is a measure of one's ability to solve academic problems, such as analogies and puzzles. It is seen as a reflection of how the individual relates to one's internal world. *'''Creative Intelligence''' (experiential) :Creative Intelligence reflects an individual's ability to connect their internal world to their external reality. It includes one's ability to use prior knowledge in new or innovative ways in different circumstances, such as finding a new approach to a problem. In this way, creative intelligence encompasses creative thinking. *'''Practical Intelligence''' (contextual) :Practical Intelligence involves one's ability to understand and effectively deal with everyday tasks. It is reflective of how the individual relates to the external world. Most individuals will score higher in one of the three areas of intelligence. ===Theory of Successful Intelligence=== Sternberg (1999) holds that individuals who excel in all areas of the triarchic intelligence test may be considered to have successful intelligence, which he defines as the ability to achieve success in accordance with one's personal standards and within one's socio-cultural context. Individuals with high levels of successful intelligence tend to be better equipped for success and able to adapt well to their socio-cultural context. Sternberg’s (1999) construct of successful intelligence may be applied to educational settings with the aim of increasing student learning while bridging gaps among socio-economic and ethnically diverse groups. In addition, the theory of successful intelligence offers researchers, psychologists, and educators an opportunity to redefine intelligence, and educational opportunity. == Charles E. Spearman== Charles Spearman was one of the earliest psychologists to propose a factor analytic approach to intelligence testing. His theory stated that there was one ''general factor (g)'' and one or more'' specific factors (s)'' that accounted for individuals' performance on intelligence tests. Spearman conceptualized the g factor as ''general mental energy''. This factor is involved in deductive reasoning and is linked to the "skill, speed, intensity, and extent of intellectual output." (Sattler, 2001, 138). Spearman believed that general mental ability represented the 'inventive' aspect to mental ability rather than the 'reproductive' aspect. The cognitive abilities associated with general mental ability might include being able to describe how two concepts are related or being able to find a second idea that is related to one that has already been proposed. Tests with high g loading are complex and include tasks that involve reasoning and hypothesis testing (Sattler, 2001). Tests with low g loadings are less complex and include tasks that involve recognition, recall, and speed (Sattler, 2001). ==Emotional Intelligence== The construct of emotional intelligence, or (EQ), is becoming an increasingly valued area of psychological research due to the adaptive properties it holds for both the individual and society. Experts vary somewhat in their definition of emotional intelligence and the standards for its empirical assessment, but most agree that individuals having high EQ scores possess character traits that foster strong interpersonal skills, excellent coping strategies, and decision-making abilities that lead to positive outcomes. Theories and applications of emotional intelligence aim to improve quality of life of the individual by helping her/him to achieve goals, form satisfying relationships, find meaningful work, and attain personal and professional success. An understanding of emotional intelligence is therefore not only conducive to intellectual growth, it holds a significant role in individual happiness. The study of intelligence has a rich history in cognition, and it was long held that the arousal state of emotion caused disorganization of cognitive activity (Massey, 2002). Charles Darwin challenged this notion when he wrote ''The Expression of Emotions in Man and Animals'' in 1872. Darwin's work recognized the emotional system as important to survival across species. According to Darwin's theory, emotions served as an important signaling system that served as being highly adaptive (Darwin, 1872). About a century later, Howard Gardner challenged the traditional notion of IQ in his day by introducing the world to new intelligences, proposing that individuals have many intelligences in a variety of abilities. His famous book titled ''Frames of Mind: The Theory of Multiple Intelligences'' (Gardner, 1983) outlined seven new intelligences with highly adaptive properties. Two aspects of his theory, interpersonal and intrapersonal intelligences, correspond to some aspects of EQ abilities. They are defined as ability in using one’s intelligence in gaining empathy toward others and in understanding the self and using this knowledge effectively (Gardner, 1983). Although Gardner is against the concept of emotional intelligence, his work has precipitated research in the areas of interpersonal relations and self-understanding-components of EQ. At the same time in history, Sternberg (1985) developed his ''Triarchic Theory of Human Intelligence'', proving individuals don’t have to be “book smart” to be highly intelligent. Two components of his theory—creative intelligence and practical intelligence—comprise skills beyond those measured in traditional IQ assessments, with qualities mirrored in EQ abilities (Sternberg, 1985). Some research points to the value of understanding emotions evoked in art, and the healing power of creativity (Glennon, 2000); other works hold practical aspects of goal attainment to be in new approaches to intelligence, including areas of EQ. In 1987, Nancy Cantor and John Kihlstrom published their work on ''Social Intelligence'' (Cantor & Kihlstrom, 1987). Their work would lead many researchers to consider the role of effective social interactions in intelligence, inspiring future work on EQ abilities. It was not until 1990 that the term "emotional intelligence" was first used, when John D. Mayer and Peter Salovey formulated their original hierarchical model of EQ. They defined emotional intelligence as "the ability to monitor one's own and other's feelings and emotions, to discriminate among them and to use this information to guide one's thinking and actions" (Mayer & Salovey, 1990) Borrowing from Mayer and Salovey's theory, Daniel Goleman wrote ''Emotional Intelligence''in 1995. In his book, Goleman (1995) defines emotional intelligence as: knowing one’s emotions, managing one’s emotions, motivating oneself, recognizing emotions in others, and handling relationships. His theory, derived from work on brain research proves that emotional stability, or EQ, is more important than IQ in determining one’s success. The book became a best seller. The topic of EQ received widespread attention by being on the cover of ''Time'' and ''Forbes'' magazines; Goleman’s book is also discussed on the television shows ''Oprah'' and ''20/20''. Expanding on their earlier work, Mayer and Salovey formulated a revised model of emotional intelligence (1997), which gave more emphasis to cognitive components of EQ, and conceptualized EQ as it related to intellectual and emotional growth. This processing model contained four branches: ::*'''Perceiving Emotions''' :::The ability to perceive emotions in oneself and others as well as in objects, art, stories, music, and other stimuli. ::*'''Facilitating Thought''' :::The ability to generate, use, and feel emotion as necessary to communicate feelings or employ them in other cognitive processes. ::*'''Understanding Emotions''' :::The ability to understand emotional information, to understand how emotions combine and progress through relationship transitions, and to appreciate such emotional meanings. ::*'''Managing Emotions''' :::The ability to be open to feelings, and to modulate them in oneself and others so as to promote personal understanding and growth. Work in the field was gaining increased popularity, and competing theories were surfacing. Additional work on EQ led to ''Development of the BarOn EQ-i: a measure of emotional intelligence'' (Bar-On, 1997). This research produced a test of the emotional intelligence quotient. The same year, the book ''Executive EQ: emotional intelligence in leadership and organizations'' was published in New York (Cooper, & Sawaf, 1997). The corporate world began to recognize the importance of emotional intelligence, its role in the knowledge economy, and its impact for success. Following this, Wessinger’s (1998) book ''Emotional Intelligence at Work'' explored the applications of emotional intelligence in employment settings, giving more reason for corporations and individuals to learn more about the concept in applied settings. As the end of the decade neared, additional research studies on the construct continued to be published. The 33-Item Emotional Intelligence Scale was published (Schutte et al.,1998). This work defined emotional intelligence according to the following abilities: non-verbal communication and mood/affect, optimism and pessimism, attention to feelings, clarity of feelings, mood repair, and depressed mood an impassivity. Responses on this scale aim to provide psychologists with valid insights into individual levels of competence in awareness and regulation of emotion, outlook on life, mood/affect, and inpulsiveness. While all this research was going on, controversey and debate over whether emotional intelligence qualifies as an intelligence was high. In response, John D. Mayer, David R. Caruso, and Peter Salovey (1999) published research to support emotional intelligence meets traditional standards for an intelligence. Their work led to the development of the Multifactor Emotional Intelligence Scale, or MEIS (1999). The MEIS was an ability test and was devised to overcome challenges associated with earlier self-report tests (Mayer, Caruso, & Salovey, 1999). Recognizing a lack of adequate testing measures for assessing EQ scores in children, Amie Kistler Sullivan developed ''The Emotional Intelligence Scale for Children'', or EISC, (1999). Based on the MEIS, the EISC was devised using child-development research. Giving consideration to children’s verbal and cognitive skills, as well as ther developmental experience, this work produced five subscales, which include: faces, music, stories, understanding, and managing emotions. An empathy scale has also been added. The measurement of emotional intelligence now had an application in educational settings. Sullivan’s empirical studies prove that a child’s emotional intelligence abilities impact on learning and future life outcomes. She states that individuals with greater levels of emotional intelligence come to make decisions that impact on their lives positively; the opposite is also true (Sullivan, 1999). For example, children having high scores on the EISC achieve academic success, whereas children having low scores are at risk of dropping out of school (Sullivan, 1999). This work was beneficial in allowing educators to consider ways of helping children achieve high EQ abilities—traces of this notion are found in the teaching of character education. Teachers were learning how to help children become happy and successful in later life. The turn of the new millennium brought about research on emotional intelligence in applied settings. Michelle M. Englund and collaborators (2000) proved that low measures of emotional intelligence and social competence are found to correlate to feelings of negativity, hostility, aggression and/or frustration toward others. In group settings, individuals with low EQ scores fail to participate in group tasks and do not contribute to discussions; they display little consideration toward others and their opinions, and are uninterested in group activities (Englund et al., 2000). With this knowledge, the business world began to recognize the value of hiring emotionally intelligent individuals for their skills in social competence. Highly emotionally intelligent individuals are desirable job candidates for their traits in: ability to function well within a group, to work cooperatively toward group goals, and to strive toward attaining positive outcomes of problems-solving tasks (Englund et al., 2000). Emotionally intelligent individuals are respected and wield influence in group dynamics. These individuals are able to guide discussions, promote participation by others, and often make final decisions that others adhere to. They are confident and possess a belief in their abilities and expect success for their effort (Englund et al., 2000). Individuals having high EQ scores have also proven to be better equipped to conquer life challenges. In an applied setting, Sheldon and Houser-Marko (2001) demonstrated that individuals having high EQ scores are better able to cope with the challenges and changes associated with entering college or university—increasingly difficult curricula and increased peer interactions. Students with high EQ abilities successfully meet such challenges with higher grade point averages and the ability to better meet year-long goal attainment during the incoming year (Sheldon, & Houser-Marko, 2001). Psychological research at this time also explored the role of emotional intelligence in individual success and happiness. Nicola S. Schutte, John M. Malouff, Chad Bobik, Tracie D. Coston, Cyndy Greeson, Christina Jedlicka, Emily Rhodes, and Greta Wendorf (2001) explored the role of ''Emotional Intelligence and Interpersonal Relations''. They found that emotionally intelligent individuals possess abilities that lead to success in social situations that correspond to overall improved quality of life (Schutte et al., 2001). For example, emotionally intelligent individuals had higher scores for empathetic perspective taking and self-monitoring of emotions and behaviours in a variety of environmental contexts (Schutte et al., 2001). They proved better at effectively managing inappropriate behaviours, such as hostility and aggression; they also respond assertively to anger-provoking situations, respecting both their own rights as well as those of others. Individuals with high EQs possessed increased social skills, are more cooperative toward partners, have more affectionate relationships, and enjoy greater satisfaction in personal relationships (Schutte et al., 2001). In summary, emotionally intelligent individuals get along well with a variety of people and are very well liked; they also receive more positive treatment from others and report having more satisfying relationships (Schutte et al., 2001). Growing popularity of the construct of emotional intelligence has not been without criticism. A critique of empirical research on emotional intelligence points to the problem of self-report findings. Research that resulted in the development of the various EQ scales may represent or be vulnerable to subject bias. It is possible that subjects responded to self-report studies by portraying themselves in a more positive manner, and/or by providing answers they wished the investigators/researchers to read/observe. Applied studies may also be vulnerable to subject-bias effects. In response to such criticism, the Mayer-Salovey-Caruso Emotional Intelligence Test, or MSCEIT, (Mayer et al., 2002) aimed to measure performance abilities associated with EQ. The MSCEIT was developed from earlier intelligence-testing research by Mayer and Salovey, such as the Multifactor Emotional Intelligence Scale, or MEIS (Mayer, Caruso, & Salovey, 1999). This new test was designed to measure the four branches of the MEIS by determining how well people perform tasks having emotional content (Mayer et al., 2002). Scores on the MSCEIT reflect ability measures are relatively unaffected by self-concept, response set, emotional state, and/or other confounds (Mayer et al., 2002). That is, responses to MSCEIT represent actual abilities at solving emotional problems. At present, the construct continues to be researched, debated, and discussed around the world. ''The First International Congress on Emotional Intelligence'' will take place September 2007 in Málaga, Spain. More than 200 well-known researchers will contribute to analyzing important theoretical, empirical, and applied aspects of emotional intelligence related to health, education, and business. Another world-wide forum for EQ is ''The International Conference on Emotional Intelligence'' (ICEI), which invites expert speakers from prominent organizations to discuss the integration of emotional intelligence in the workplace. Industry leaders from Deloitte, American Express, and UBS—to name a few, will be in attendance at the conference in London, England in June 2007. In addition, South Africa will host the ''Emotional Intelligence World Summit'' in September 2007. The Conference will highlight effectiveness of leadership using emotional intelligence in education, business, and health. In summary, results of research in this field have led to a greater understanding of what emotional intelligence is, how it can be identified, and why it matters. Despite the varying descriptions of emotionally intelligent personalities and abilities, experts agree that individuals having high EQ scores display combinations of some or all of the following: emotional stability, strong interpersonal and social skills, self-awareness, self-management, and positive mood/affect. As a result, they are better equipped for success and tend to live happier and more fulfilled lives. Given the adaptive properties of emotional intelligence and its impact on one’s success in life, it is important to note that experts are in concordance to the developmental nature of EQ scores (Mayer, Caruso, & Salovey, 1999; Schutte et al., 1998; & Sullivan, 1999). That is, most individuals can look forward to increasing levels of emotional intelligence abilities with age and experience. For example, challenging periods of adjustment during childhood—attachment during infancy, preschool in early childhood, summer camp in middle childhood, and the formation of intimate relationships in adolescence—illustrate the changing coping styles and qualitative differences in EQ abilities at each stage of development (Englund et al., 2000). Because adolescents function within a larger network of relationships, they are required to employ new skills in various situations, thus expanding their perceptual and cognitive emotional abilities (Englund et al., 2000). Similarly, as one enters adulthood and finds employment and faces the responsibilities of marriage and family life, new and more complex EQ skills become necessary (Sheldon, & Houser-Marko, 2001; & Schutte et al., 2001). It is important for individuals to understand their strengths and weaknesses in areas of emotional intelligence and to find ways to aid in improving these skills. Due to the developmental nature of emotional intelligence, experts are optimistic that appropriate intervention strategies will yield increases in EQ performance measures. Such increases are believed to improve one’s quality of life and probability for success (Sheldon, & Houser-Marko, 2001). Research on EQ has found a correlation among emotional intelligence and measures of empathy, artistic ability, time spent in psychotherapy, preference for leisure activities, and life satisfaction. It has been suggested that emotional intelligence may improve through appropriate leisure activities, such as reading self-help books and being exposed to an emotionally and creatively enriched environment (Mayer, Caruso, & Salovey, 1999. Listening to classical music, attending concerts, and having an appreciation for the arts permits a greater understanding of emotional self-awareness and creative and emotional expression (Mayer, Caruso, & Salovey, 1999). Time spent in psychotherapy is believed to correspond positively with increases in emotional and cognitive growth—both of which attribute to greater self-knowledge and self-understanding (Mayer, Caruso, & Salovey, 1999). For youth at risk, life skills training could be implemented to aid adolescents in setting appropriate academic and life goals, empowering them to successfully deal with future challenges. This may be especially important as low EQ scores have been linked to youth violence and teen pregnancy (Englund et al., 2000). ==Dynamic Assessment== Dynamic Assessment is characterized by an approach first forwarded by Feurstein (1979). Feurstein spoke of the Learning Potential Assessment Device. Feuerstein's background was in Israel, working with children displaced by the Holocaust. Feurstein found that on traditional intelligence tests, these children often scored in the very delayed range, but he saw the progress they made with support and the "spark" for learning they had. He thus spoke of the "potential" of children and focused on this ability to change rather than any score. His approach is based on a series of learning tasks with children. Once a child's strategies are uncovered with support (we would characterize this now as "testing of the limits") he would use this knowledge to help children see how to apply these strategies in other situations, specifically within academic tasks. More generally, dynamic assessment refers to a process where teaching and assessment occur in tandem. Terms such as "testing of limits" are used to indicate that after a standardized administration of a test, the child's limits are tested by seeing what they can do with a change in instruction, support, stimuli, etc. Other approaches include test, teach, retest. This refers to administering a test, then teaching the child the skill, then retesting them to measure the improvement. Dynamic assessment attempts to evaluate a child's response to instruction. In this way, it is considered less biased than traditional assessment models which can be biased by educational history or culture. ==Cross-Battery Assessment (Cattell-Horn-Carroll) Model== Early work by Raymond Cattell and John Horn reflects a factor analytic approach to intelligence. The '''Cattell-Horn Fluid-Crystallized Intelligence Theory''' distinguished between two types of intelligence, that is fluid intelligence and crystallized intelligence. '''Fluid intelligence''' refers to the ability to understand and reason with nonverbal (culturally free) information. Examples of tasks that tap into fluid intelligence might include figure classifications and matricies). Fluid intelligence is thought to gradually increase during childhood and it peaks in adolescence. After peaking, fluid intelligence is thought to gradually decrease over the rest of an individual's life due to the degeneration of physiological brain structures. '''Crystallized intelligence''' refers to the acquired skills and knowledge that an individual possess. Contrary to fluid intelligence, crystallized intelligence is not culture-free, but rather it is dependent on being exposed to culture. This type of intelligence invovles "overlearned and well established cognitive functions and is related to mental products and achievements." (Sattler, 2001, 140). Examples of tasks that tap into crystallized intelligence might include vocabulary and general information. Crystallized intelligence is strongly influenced by formal and informal education and as a result, is thought to increase at least until middle adulthood. After this original two-factor conceptualization of intelligence, Cattell, Horn, and Carroll proposed that there were more than two specific types of abilities that underly learning. If fact, they proposed nine different "broad" classifications of intelligence and they developed the '''Cattell-Horn-Carroll Theory of Cognitive Abilities'''. The nine different classifications of intelligence include (from Sattler, 2001, p.&nbsp;141): *'''Fluid Intelligence (Gf):''' Refers to reasoning, seriation, sorting, and classifying abilities *'''Crystallized Intelligence (Gc):''' Refers to achievement and knowledge that results from acculturation *'''Visual Processing (Gv):''' Refers to the ability to accurately perceive/interpret spatial information and visually and mentally manipulate figures *'''Auditory Processing (Ga):''' Refers to the ability to listen and respond appropriately to auditory information *'''Short-Term Memory (Gsm):''' Refers to immediate awareness, alertness, and retrieval of recently learned information *'''Long-Term Storage and Retrieval (Glr):''' Refers to the ability to retrieve information from long-term storage *'''Processing Speed (Gs):''' Refers to the ability to quickly and efficiently respond to simple tasks *'''Decision Speed (Gt):''' Refers to the ability to provide speeded responses to tasks of slight or moderate difficulty *'''Quantitative Knowledge (Gq):''' Refers to the ability to understand and apply mathematical concepts A large number of other abilities (70) are subsumed under these categories (narrow classifications). An example of a narrow classification would be Foreign Language Aptitude which falls under the broad classification of Crystallized Intelligence (Gc). A third stratum also exists in the model and this level subsumes all other levels of ability. "g" or a general cognitive ability is representative of higher-order cognitive abilities. The Cross Battery Assessment model takes as its starting point the idea of multiple intelligences within multiple areas. It is empirically based and theory driven. It seeks to provide a more thorough understanding of a child's ability than would be possible using any single test and is based on the Cattell-Horn-Carroll Theory of Cognitive Abilities. Cross-battery assessment, as the name implies, involves utilizing ''more than one'' psychological test or battery to evaluate the abilities that underly learning in children. This has resulted in the development of several cognitive and achievement tests that use the CHC model of intelligence explicitly in their structure. The Woodcock-Johnson Tests of Cognitive Abilities (WJ-III COG), the Woodcock-Johnson Tests of Achievement, Third Edition (WJ-III ACH), and the Kaufman Assessment Battery for Children, Second Edition (KABC-II) all include tasks which tap into these multiple areas of ability. {{BookCat}} 3xl51zqwhcc07ogecvmc353o0t6m0lz Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...e5/2. Nf3/2...Nc6/3. Bb5/3...a6/4. Ba4/4...Nf6/5. O-O/5...Nxe4 0 128192 4520916 4217031 2025-07-02T07:43:44Z JCrue 2226064 name (riga is after d4 exd4), some expansion 4520916 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Chess Opening Theory/Position |Open Spanish |parent=[[../|Ruy Lopez mainline]] }} == 5...Nxe4 · Open Spanish == Black takes the free pawn. However, while Black's king remains in the centre, they must navigate the danger of an open e-file carefully, and White can eventually recover the e-pawn. How is White to recover the pawn? The natural [[/6. Re1|'''6. Re1?!''']], intending 6...Nc6 7. Nxe5, is in fact a very minor sideline. Black's knight can retreat to c5 instead, hitting the bishop and forcing White to trade it for the c6 knight. After 6...Nc5 7. Bxc6 dxc6, Black is doing well compared to the [[Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...e5/2. Nf3/2...Nc6/3. Bb5/3...a6/4. Bxc6|Exchange variation]]: White lost a tempo moving the bishop to a4 then back to c6, and the disappearance of the centre pawns favours Black's bishop pair. Now that Black's rejoinder Qd4 wouldn't come with a fork, White may want to try [[/6. Bxc6|'''6. Bxc6?!''']] dxc6 7. Nxe5 to grab the pawn back. However, Black can take the initiative by targeting the undefended white knight on e5, and White soon finds themselves behind in development (e.g. 7...Qf6 8. d4 Bd6 and White is out of good ways to defend the knight. Qh5? g6!, while Re1 drops the f2 pawn). Therefore [[/6. d4|'''6. d4''']] is the mainline. White controls c5 (preventing Nc5) and threatens Black's e5 pawn. If Black takes it 6...exd4, the Riga variation, they run into complications from Re1 due to opening their e-file with their knight and king still on it. Therefore the continuation is usually 6...b5 7. Bb3 d5, and White gets the pawn back 8. dxe5. ==Theory table== {{Chess Opening Theory/Table}}. 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Nxe4 <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4"> <tr> <th></th> <th align="left"><font size="2">6</font></th> </tr> <tr> <th align="right"><font size="2"></font></th> <td><font size="2">[[/6. Re1|6. Re1]]<br> -</font> </td> <td><font size="2">=</font> </td> </tr> <tr> <th align="right"><font size="2"></font></th> <td><font size="2">[[/6. Bxc6|6. 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It is a natural and cultural history that reaches back to Gondwana, moves through time into the present, then onwards, 50 years hence, into a predicted globally warmer future.<br> <br> ====[insert Map of North-East Australia's Wet Tropical Forests]==== =Chapter: Mesozoic Era (290 000 000 - 65 000 000)= ==Permian Period (290 000 000 - 248 200 000)== ==Triassic Period (248 200 000 - 205 700 000)== ==Jurassic Period (205 700 000 - 142 000 000)== This is a period of globally warm temperatures, and at latitudes higher (further towards the poles) than 45 degrees (from the equator) rainfall is high and there are extensive swamps (evidenced in the present by large coal deposits)<ref name="Truswell001"/> ====='''205 700 000''':===== What is presently called Australia, is, at this time, part of a single continent (Gondwana) comprised of an amalgamation of present Australia, Africa, South America, Madagascar, India, and Antarctica.<ref name="Adam001">ADAM, Paul (1994) '''<u>Australian Rainforests</u>.''' Oxford University Press, Melbourne. Page 138</ref><br> ====='''175 000 000''':===== At the location of present day northern New South Wales (Talbragar Fish Beds), there is a forested landscape dominated by ''Agathis'' (ie Kauri') together with podocarps (ie southern conifers), and in the understory are cycads, ferns, and tree ferns. Around the lake is a zone of seed ferns. Present day relict gymnosperm ''Agathis'' (Kauri) forests on the Atherton Tablelands represent a modern assemblage of plants with the same basic composition as the Jurassic (Gondwana) forests covering present day northern New South Wales (ie Podocarps [southern conifers] growing among the Kauri pines [''Agathis robusta''], with tree like cycads [''Lepidozamia hopei''] in the understory.<ref>WHITE, M.E (1986) '''<u>The greening of Gondwana</u>'''. Reed. Sydney.</ref> ====='''160 000 000''':===== West Gondwana (present Africa and South America) start to separate from East Gondwana (Australia, Antarctic, India, and Madagascar), with South America and Antarctic still connected for a while yet.<ref name="Adam001"/> Various fragments of the northern margin of the present Australian plate also begin to detach and drift northwards to form an archipelago of terrestrial habitats (micro-continental fragments) between Gondwana and that other more northern continent, Laurasia <ref name="Adam002"/> ==Cretaceous Period (142 000 000 - 65 000 000)== This period (the Cretaceous) is a time of high global temperatures and high sea-levels, such that most of present Australia is covered by shallow seas, and the present land surface is divided into three major 'islands'.<ref name="Truswell001">TRUSWELL, E.M & WILFORD, G.E (1985) ''The Setting: Changing Australian environments throughout geological time'', in RICH, P.V; VAN TETS, G.F; & KNIGHT, F (Eds) '''<u>Kadimakara: Extinct vertevrates of Australia</u>'''. Pioneer Design Studio. Victoria</ref> The remaining mass of what was Gondwana, still well south of present locations, allow warm oceanic currents to flow to high latitudes, with what would now be regarded as as tropical and sub-tropical climates southwards of 45 degrees down to 60 degrees south, and warm wet conditions reaching so far south that even the south polar regions have a relatively mild climate.<ref>ADAM, Paul (1994) '''<u>Australian Rainforests</u>'''. Oxford University Press, Melbourne. Page 142</ref> ===Lower Cretaceous Epoch (142 000 000 - 97 500 000)=== ====Neocomian Stage (142 000 000 - 125 000 000)==== The world's first evolutionary burst of angiosperms (see Glossary) occurs at this time.<ref name="Truswell">TRUSWELL, E.W (1990) "''Australian Rainforests: The 100 Million Year Record''", in WEBB, L.J & KIKKAWA, J (Eds) '''<u>Australian Tropical Rainforests: Science, Values, Meaning</u>'''. CSIRO Publications. Melbourne</ref>. This evolutionary burst produced pollen of a type now (in the present) referred to by the fossil name ''Clavatipellonites''. These ''Clavatipellonites'' appear and spread around the world (as it was then), though they don't yet reach Australia (part of East Gondwana).<ref name="Truswell"/> ====='''128 000 000''':===== India (tectonic plate)splits away from present West Australia and moves to the north east.<ref name="Adam002">ADAM, Paul (1994) '''<u>Australian Rainforests</u>'''. Oxford University Press, Melbourne. Page 139</ref> ====Barremian Stage (125 000 000 - 119 000 000)==== ====Aptian Stage (119 000 000 - 113 000 000)==== The world's first wind pollination dependent angiosperms appear in present tropical west Africa (now separated from East Gondwana) spreading poleward. The pollens of these plants are smaller, radially symmetrical grains, generally succeeding and replacing the ''Clavatipellonite'' pollens (and those plants communities that produced these pollens) around the world during this epoch., though, again (similar to the delay in the spread of the ''Clavatipellonites''), they do not seem to reach Australia (part of East Gondwana) at this time.<ref name="Truswell"/> ====Albian Stage (113 000 000 - 97 500 000)==== It is during this epoch that the world reaches its peak or highest global temperatures in over 500 million years (ie the highest temperature interval in the whole of the Phanerozoic Eon)<ref name="Truswell001"/> It is first during this stage that the world's first angiosperms (represented in the fossil record by the ''Clavatipellonites'') reach Australia and enter the Australian ecological mixes of the time, somewhat later than other parts of the world.<ref name="Truswell"/><ref name="Adam004">ADAM, Paul (1994) '''<u>Australian Rainforests</u>'''. Oxford University Press, Melbourne. Page 144</ref><br> ====='''100 000 000''':===== Some of the northern fragments from the margin of the Australian plate, forming an archipelago between East Gondwana and Laurasia (present Burma and West Thailand) collide with the Laurasian Indo-China block (present east Thailand and Indo-China) <ref name="Adam002"/> ====='''95 000 000''':===== East Gondwana (including present Australia) becomes further fragmented, with two further plates, present Lord Howe Rise/New Zealand and Antarctica coming into existence.<ref name="Adam002"/> ===Upper Cretaceous Epoch (97 500 000 - 65 000 000)=== ====Cenomanian Stage (97 500 000 - 91 000 000)==== ====='''80 000 000'':===== The present Australian tectonic plate and the New Zealand tectonic plate separate relatively rapidly (on a geological timescale) from this date.<ref name="Adam002"/> ====Turonian Stage (91 000 000 - 88 500 000)==== ====Senonian Stage (88 500 000 - 65 000 000)==== There appears in Australia (and the associated Australian micro-fossil pollen record) plants might be considered ancestral, or somehow related to plants that now appear in present day Australian forests including Proteaceae, Ilex and Nothofagus <ref name="Martin001">MARTIN, H.A (1978) ''Evolution of the Australian and vegetation through the Tertiary: evidence from pollen.'' '''<u>Alcheringa</u>'''. Volume 2. Pages 181 - 202.</ref> =Chapter: Cenozoic Era (65 000 000 years to 000 000)= ==Tertiary Sub-Era== From the beginning of this sub-era (the Tertiary), Australia's 'Great Dividing Range' has formed and stretches along almost the whole of the east coast of present Australia, constituting a highlands within a continent of otherwise relatively low relief. This range, in combination with the 'Great Escarpment' that suddenly drops off to the east for almost the entire length of the range, is a major landscape feature within Australia which will, for millions of years to come always experience relatively high rainfalls; will influence continental climatic patterns; and will effect future distributions and survivals of Gondwana descended flora and fauna.<ref name="Adam003">ADAM, Paul (1994) '''<u>Australian Rainforests</u>'''. Oxford University Press, Melbourne. Page 141.</ref><br> Also during this sub-era there are 'marine incursions' in present Southern Australia, flooding what is now the Nullabor Plain and the lower Murray Basin. <ref name="Adam003"/> ===Paleaogene Period (65 000 000 - 23 800 000)=== Present Australia is still at high altitudes (much closer to the south pole than in the present), yet it remains relatively warm and wet, with rain-bearing clouds extending well inland (and, there is little or no ice in Antarctica).<ref name="Kemp001">KEMP, E.M. (1978) ''Tertiary climatic evolution and vegetation history in the south east Indian Ocean region''. '''<u>Palaegeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology</u>'''. Volume 24. Pages 169-208.</ref> ====Palaeocene Epoch (65 000 000 - 54 800 000)==== An abundance and diversity of cryptogams (ie ferns, mosses, algae & fungi: see Glossary) thrive in continuing moist conditions in Australia generally, and along the Great Dividing Range in particular.<ref name="Lange001">LANGE, R.T (1982) ''Australian Tertiary vegetation: Evidence and Interpretation'', in SMITH, J.M.B (Ed) '''<u>A History of Australasian vegetation</u>'''. Mgraw-Hill. Sydney. Pages 44-89.</ref>. Gymnosperms still dominate the plant communities, but during this epoch there is also a significant increase in the prominence of Proteaceae (see Glossary) ancestors in particular.<ref>MARTIN, H,A (1987) ''Cainozoic history of the vegetation and climate of the Lachlan River region, New South Wales.'' '''<u>Proceedings of Linnean Society of New South Wales</u>'''. Volume 109. Pages 213-257.</ref>. ====Eocene Epoch (54 800 000 - 33 700 000)==== The sea-way between Australia and the Antarctica has begun to widen but it is still shallow, and there is therefore still relatively small differences in ocean temperatures from the equator to the high latitudes, with the climate over Australia still being warm and wet, though with a heavier winter rainy season in the south-east.<ref name="Kemp001"/> The Australian continent is still covered, generally, with cool to warm, moist, closed forests, but the plant communities/assemblages themselves change noticeably from those of the previous epoch, with a dropping off in the earlier emergent prominence of the Proteaceae, and an associated emergence of an even greater diversity of angiosperm taxa<ref name="Martin001"/> including tropical Olacaceae ancestors (now represented by a single species in present north-east Australia's wet tropical forests), ancestors (Cupanieae tribe)of the Sapindaceae, plus a salt water palm now known as Nypa (beginnings of present mangrove plant communities and eco-systems, presently represented in Australia by ''Nypa fruticans'').<ref name="Lange001"/> The climate of the southern parts of Australia were almost tropical, the equivalent of which is now found in northern Australia, including, particularly, North-East Australia's wet tropical forests<ref>CHRISTOPHEL, D.C & GREENWOOD, D.R (1988) ''A comparison of Australian tropical rainforest and Tertiary fossil leaf-beds''. '''<u>Proceedings of the Ecological Society of Australia</u>'''. Volume 15. Pages 139-148.</ref>: i. at what is now Anglesea, Victoria (Australia), during this epoch, there was simple notophyll vine forest of a kind now found in north-east Australia's wet tropical forests (their closed analogue being the rainforest of Noah Creek, north of the Daintree River) ii. what is now Golden Grove, South Australia, during this epoch, there was complex mesophyll vine forests of ancestor species that are presently represented within, and restricted to the complex mesophyll vine forests of north-east Australia's wet tropical forests. ====='''45 000 000''':===== Present Australian tectonic plate begins to move rapidly (on a geological timescale) northwards, separating from present Antarctica and separated by a shallow sea. At the same time the spreading between present India and Australia ceases, and the two separate plates 'coalesce' to form an Indo-Australian Plate.<ref name="Adam002"/> ====Oligocene Epoch (33 700 000 - 23 800 000)==== Circumpolar oceanic circulation developes during this Epoch, effectively reducing the transfer of heat from the equator southwards, which results in some cooling and lower rainfalls in the south of present Australian continent.<ref name="Kemp001"/> ====='''30 000 000''':===== As the present Australian continent drifts northwards, it passes over a fixed hot-spot in the underlying mantle, with Australia's oldest central volcanoes erupting in the north at this time, with later, younger central volcanoes erupting progressively southwards within the Australian continent.<ref>OLLIER, C.D. (1986) ''Early Landform Evolution'', in JEANS, D.N (ed) '''<u>Australia - A Geography. Volume 1: The natural environment</u>'''. Sydney University Press, Sydney. Pages 97-116.</ref> ===Neogene Period (23 800 000 - 1 800 000)=== ====Miocene Epoch (23 800 000 - 5 300 000)==== ====='''15 000 000''':===== Present Australia's northward drift continues and, at this time, the Australian plate collides with the South-East Asian plate, ending 30 million years (ie 45 000 000 - 15 000 000) of isolation, and marking the first contact between Australia and South-East Asia.<ref name="Adam002"/> At the same time (15 million years ago) major change occurs in the Australian climate, with a pronouncing 'drying' accompanying the build up of the Antarctic ice-cap, and the associated southern hemisphere wind circulation starting to approach those of the present.<ref name="Truswell001"/> ====Pliocene Epoch (5 300 000 - 1 800 000)==== At the beginning of this Epoch, the Australian continent is marked by it's aridity, which spreads northwards from the south as a belt of anticyclonic wind circulation develops (driven by the expansion of the Antarctic ice cap) closer migrates northwards from the higher latitudes.<ref name="Truswell001"/> ====='''2 000 000''':===== Seasonal patterns of variation in climate approximating present day patterns, take hold of the Australian continent from this date onwards, into the present..<ref name="Truswell001"/> ==Quartenary Sub-Era== ===Pliestogene Period (1 800 000 - 000)=== ====Pleistocene Epoch (1 800 000 - 10 000)==== ====='''164 000 BP''':===== Human ancestors in this world (South Africa) are, by this date, using fire to cook shellfish (mussells); have started using ochres; and, for general anthropological purposes, these ancestors have skills, technologies, and lifestyles of a kind that is classed as 'modern human'<ref>BORENSTEIN, Seth (2007) ''"Early Seafood, Makeup found in South Africa"'' see '''<u>Yahoo News</u>,''' 17 October 2007</ref>,<br> ====Holocene Epoch (10 000 - 000)==== By this Epoch, people (humans) were occupying, using, and living within the wet humid forests then prevalent in Melanesia.<ref>ALLEN, J., GOSDEN, C., WHITE, J.P. (1989) ''Human Pleistocene adaptations in the tropical island Pacific: recent evidence from New Island, a Greater Australian outlier''. '''<u>Antiquity</u>'''. Volume 63. Pages 548–561</ref>. At this time, however, there were no large wet tropical forest in north-east Australia, and, instead, the 'rainforest' flora and fauna were largely preserved in riparian refuges, in a landscape that has been described as follows: ''"The palaeoenvironmental evidence suggests that rainforest was unevenly distributed until 8300 BP, prior to which, much of the Atherton Tablelands was covered in sclerophyll woodland with patches of riparian rainforest in the deeper gullies"''<ref>COSGROVE, Richard; FIELD, Judith; & FERRIER, Äsa (2007) ''The Archaeology of Australia's Tropical Rainforests''. '''<u>Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology</u>'''. Volume 251. Page 154.</ref> =Chapter: Aboriginal Ecologies (130 000 - 1770?)= ====='''130 000''' BP:===== Quantities of charcoal particles within river sediments leap upward, together with noticeable changes in the kinds of pollens most prevalent in those sediments. These charcoal particles and pollen fossils document and record a significant increase in the burning of the biomass of the river catchments out of which sediment has fallen. Together this record may signal the first arrival of Aboriginal 'burning' and Aboriginal 'fire regimes' into north-east Australia's ecological mix.<ref>MOSS, P.T & KERSHAW, A. P (2000) ''"The last glacial cycle from the humid tropics of northeastern Australia: comparison of a terrestrial and marine record".'' '''<u>Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology</u>'''. Vol 155, Pages 155–176.</ref> =Chapter: European Ecologies (1770 - 1860)= =Chapter: Queensland State Ecologies (1860 - 1900)= ===='''1874:'''==== The first timber cutters encroach upon the wet tropical forsts, setting up timber camps and cutting cedar along the Tully, Johnstone, Daintree and Bloomfield Rivers<ref>LOOS, N (1982) '''<u>Invasion and Resistance: Aboriginal-White Relations on the North Queensland Frontier 1861-1897</u>'''. Australian National University Press, Canberra. Page 93</ref> ===='''1876'''==== ====='''18761223:'''===== Settlement of Cairns District begins around Trinity Bay, and the Queenslander reports Aboriginal conflict is 'very bad'<ref>LOOS, N (1982) '''<u>Invasion and Resistance: Aboriginal-White Relations on the North Queensland Frontier 1861-1897</u>'''. Australian National University Press, Canberra. Page 97</ref> ===='''1877'''==== James Mulligan ans party explore for gold and other minerals and, in the search, approach the western frings of the North-East Australia's wet tropical forests where they find a whole network of tracks linking Aboriginal camp sites (or 'townships' as Mulligan callsthem): ''"A splendid track, the best native track I ever saw anywhere. There are roads off the main track to each of their townships, which consist of thatched gunyahs, big enough to hold five or six darkies. We counted eleven townships since we cam to the edge of the scrub, and we have only travelled four miles along it .. Their paths are well trodden, and we follow them sometimes for miles.."''<ref>quoted in LOOS, N (1982) '''<u>Invasion and Resistance: Aboriginal-White Relations on the North Queensland Frontier 1861-1897</u>'''. Australian National University Press, Canberra. Page 89</ref> ===='''1879'''==== =====18790830===== Mulgrave River Goldfield is discovered, bringing a rush of prospectors swelling to three or four hundred people<ref>LOOS, N (1982) '''<u>Invasion and Resistance: Aboriginal-White Relations on the North Queensland Frontier 1861-1897</u>'''. Australian National University Press, Canberra. Pages 93, 271</ref> ===='''1880'''==== In the Queensland one 'settler' tells of the firm conviction amongst colonists that: "their (Queensland Aboriginal peoples) stage of civilisation is too many hundreds and perhaps thousands of years behind our own to allow their race to thrive side by side with ours .. [and they] have learnt in their terrorto submit to anything that the conquering race may choose to do" <ref>quoted in REYNOLDS, H & MAY, D (1995) ''Queensland'' in MCGRATH (Ed''')<u>Contested Ground: Australian Aborigines under the British Crown</u>'''. Allen & Unwin. New South Wales. Pages 177, 180.</ref> ===='''1881'''==== Much of the best cedar on the Johnston and Daintree Rivers has been exhausted, and many timber cutters move up on to the tablelands behind Cairns.<ref name="LOOS001"> LOOS, N (1982) '''<u>Invasion and Resistance: Aboriginal-White Relations on the North Queensland Frontier 1861-1897</u>''. Australian National University Press, Canberra.</ref> ===='''1883'''==== ====='''18830900'''===== Christie Palmerston discovers a number of patches of alluvial gold on the Rusell and Johnston Rivers, in the wet tropical forests between the tablelands and the coast, the 'slighest sign' of which brought a rush of European and Chinese prospectors.<ref>LOOS, N (1982) '''<u>Invasion and Resistance: Aboriginal-White Relations on the North Queensland Frontier 1861-1897</u>'''. Australian National University Press, Canberra. Page 271</ref> =Chapter: Australian Nation Ecologies (1900 - 1989)= <ref>FERRIER, Äsa (2006) Dr Eric Mjöbergs 1913 scientific exploration of North Queensland's rainforest region. Memoirs of Queensland Museum Cultural Heritage Series Vol 4. Number 1. Page xx </ref> ====1913==== =====19130400===== Swedish naturalist and anthropologist, Eric Mjöberg, collects flora and fauna (including mammals) from the tropical forests within the vicinity of a large Aboriginal camp (Djirbal)on Cedar Creek [dx]. He later writes: <blockquote> ''"Most of the trees in the rainforest were giants, which had developed enormous buttress roots. The intelligent natives, who make use of their environment in every possible way, produce their large, beautifully painted shields from these roots. They also use the roots in a signalling system. By hitting the roots hard, they produce a shivering noise that travels a long distance through the rainforest."'' <ref name="MJ001">MJÖBERG, E (1918) '''<u>Bland StenDldersmänniskor I Queenslands Vilmarker</u>'''. Albert Bonniers Boktryckeri. Stockholm. Page 175</ref></blockquote> His Aboriginal companions pulled large pieces of bark from a rainforest evergreen flowering tree (''Calophyllum'' [dx] species) to make water carrying bags (which the local Djirbal people called 'nobra')[dx]<ref name="MJ001"/>.<br> Eric Mjöberg observed and later noted that by this time no stone artefacts are being used by these 'stone age' people, with the exception of grinding stones made from large flat basalt rocks (of which he collected examples). 'Grinding stones' were still being used to prepare nuts, fruits and roots for eating, and for grinding ochre during the wet season. During the dry season, he notes, the larger 'grinding stones' are left behind peoples huts or placed in tree branches to await people's return, and, instead, smaller 'hammer stones' or 'top stones' are used in the grinding process and are more readily carried around in lawyer cane baskets.<ref name="MJ001">MJÖBERG, E (19258) ''Beiträge zur kenntnis der Eigenborenen von Nord-Queensland.'' '''<u>Archive für Anthropologie.</u>''' Volume 20 Number 9. Page 118.</ref><br> Eric Mjöberg also specifically documented the extensive use Aboriginal [Djiribal] peoples at Cedar Creek [now Ravenshoe] were making of lawyer cane (Calamus Australis) =====19130500===== Eric Mjöberg, with Aboriginal companions as 'guides', explores southwards from Cedar Creek through the tropical forests collecting flora and fauna. His Aboriginal companions had advised him that when food was short around Cedar Creek, they'd walk their well beaten tracks through otherwise inaccessible forest, to fish for eel along the Tully River (dx). He later wrote: <blockquote> ''"The rainforests we were travelling in were indeed thick and hard to get through. We stuck to the well-beaten native tracks they follow during their seasonal movements...On the third day we travelled through beautiful, dense, undisturbed rainforest. After a few hours we could see daylight filtering through the enormous trees and the roaring of a waterfall was getting louder. We had arrived at Tully Falls."''<ref name="MJ001">MJÖBERG, E (1918) '''<u>Bland StenDldersmänniskor I Queenslands Vilmarker</u>'''. Albert Bonniers Boktryckeri. Stockholm. Page 195-197</ref></blockquote> =====19130517===== Eric Mjöberg climbs to the cold peak of Mount Belleden Kerr [dx], later reporting that his Aboriginal companions, at that time, refused to climb to the top as it was the home of the great spirit 'Murgalainya' [dx].<ref name="MJ001">MJÖBERG, E (1918) '''<u>Bland StenDldersmänniskor I Queenslands Vilmarker</u>'''. Albert Bonniers Boktryckeri. Stockholm. Page 122</ref> ====1984==== =====19840319===== Queensland State Minister for Environment, Martin Tenni, supports Douglas Shire Council's efforts to bulldoze a road through from Cape Tribulation to Wujal Wujal<ref>TOYNE, P (1994) '''<u>The Reluctant Nation: Environment, law and politics in Australia</u>. ''' ABC Books. Sydney. Page 70</ref><br> <blockquote> ''"Martin Tenni .. suggested in an interview with the Courier Mail newspaper that drug racketeers had exchanged kidnapped girls for heroin on lonely Cape Tribulation .. The road, he believed, would put an end to this."''</blockquote> =Chapter: World Heritage Ecologies (1989 - 2050)= =Conclusion= =Attachments= ==Glossary== '''Agathis''': a gymnosperm with the common name Kauri. '''Angiosperms''' : of all the world's 'seed' plants, angiosperms are those plants whose 'ovules' (within which seeds are produced) are enclosed. Angiosperms are also known and referred to as the 'flowering plants' of the world. '''Complex mesophyll vine forests''': a forest type defined in large part by the range and kinds of leaves prevalent '''Cryptogams''' : a convenient, though now taxonomically obsolete term used to refer to plants that reproduce by spores, or 'spore carrying plants' such as ferns, mosses, algae and fungus '''Cycads''' : a gymosperm of a kind that was widespread during the Jurassic Period that with 'pinately compound leaves', sometimes confused with palms or ferns, the seeds for which contain a neurotoxin produced by blue-green algae. '''Gondwana''': southern super-continent that included most of the land masses of the southern hemisphere up until it started to detach and fragment during the Jurassic Period of the Mesozoic era. '''Gymnosperms''' : of all the world's 'seed' plants, gymnosperms are those plants whose 'ovules' (within which seeds are produced) are not enclosed but are, rather, exposed on the edge of a leaf blade or within a cone like structure. The term 'Gymnosperm' comes a Greek word (gumnospermos) meaning 'naked seeds'. '''Ilex''' : genus of angiosperms also known as Holly, with approximately 600 species around the world, ancestral species of which appearing in Australia during the Senonian stage of the Upper Cretaceous Epoch. Their small flowers are pollinated, primarily, by bees and/or insects and they bear small fruit. '''Olacaceae''': an angiosperm family of woody plants found presently found throughout the tropical parts of the world. '''Podocarpaceae''': see Podocarps below '''Podocarps''' : a gymnosperm consisting of large group of southern conifers or evergreens. '''Proteaceae''' : family of angiosperms with approximately 80 genera, which occurs primarily in the southern hemisphere, including the Banksia and others with striking and distinctive flowers .. believed to be an angiosperm that finds its origins in the Gondwana super-contninent, now occurring on all those lands masses that were once part of Gondwana .. identifiable ancestor species for present day Proteacea appearing in Australia during the Senonian stage of the Upper Cretaceous Epoch. '''Sapindaceae''': angiosperm family also known as 'soap berries', which presently occur in temperate to tropical regions of the world and often have milky white sap. Lychees' rambutan, guarana are some of the more notable fruit bearing members of this family. '''Simple notophyll vine forest''': a forest type defined in large part by the range and kinds of leaves prevalent, a sample of which is the simple notphyll vine forest of Noah Creek, north of the Daintree River, North-East Queensland '''Taxa''' : plural of taxon, being a taxonomic unit used to designate an organism or group of organisms - in a hierarchical naming scheme. ==Annotated List of Places== '''Atherton Tablelands''' : location of relict Agathis (Kauri) forests, being a present day, modern assemblage of plants with the same basic composition as existed in the northern New South Wales of the Jurassic. '''Noah Creek''' : location of simple notophyll vine forest which is present day's closest analogue to the forests of this kind that existed during the Eocene epoch (greater than 38 000 000 years ago) at present day Anglesey, Victoria. ==Annotated List of Ecological Communities== ==Annotated List of Flora and Fauna== ''Agathis robusta'' : smooth barked agathis descended from the agathis prominent in Gondwana's Jurassic forests, now found on the Atherton tablelands, north-east Australia ''Calamus Australis'' : also known as lawyer cane, used extensively by the Aboriginal peoples of the wet tropics world heritage area to make baskets, traps, to haft axes etc ''Lepidozamia hopei'': cycad descended from the cycads prominent in Gondwana's Jurassic forests, now endemic to north-east Australia's wet tropical forests. 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Also, this username feels like a randomly generated ID or something. [[User:TTWIDEE|TTWIDEE]] ([[User talk:TTWIDEE|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/TTWIDEE|contribs]]) 18:14, 11 May 2025 (UTC) :[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Done'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} thanks! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:58, 11 May 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] They've recreated the spam. Please block this user. Also, they also have some attempted spam edits that have been blocked by the abuse filter, and they've also spammed on other wikis (they've put spam on Wikiquote, and have attempted to put spam on Wikipedia but have been stopped by the edit filter), so I don't think they have any intention of making any positive contributions. [[User:TTWIDEE|TTWIDEE]] ([[User talk:TTWIDEE|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/TTWIDEE|contribs]]) 09:32, 12 May 2025 (UTC) :::Looks like they've been globally blocked! Usually I don't block accounts for a single instance of spam, mostly because they never make any edits beyond that. But, I may start doing it prophylactically. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:19, 12 May 2025 (UTC) == Thesupernic511 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Thesupernic511}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Thesupernic511/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:11, 12 May 2025 (UTC) :[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Blocked and deleted'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:21, 12 May 2025 (UTC) == JamesRahul32 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|JamesRahul32}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/JamesRahul32/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 09:25, 13 May 2025 (UTC) :{{done|Blocked and deleted}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:10, 13 May 2025 (UTC) == 深圳怡康医院 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|深圳怡康医院}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/深圳怡康医院/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 03:59, 15 May 2025 (UTC) :Done by Kittycataclysm. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 11:29, 16 May 2025 (UTC) == Wazih Perfume & Fragness reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Wazih Perfume & Fragness}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Wazih Perfume & Fragness/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 11:47, 15 May 2025 (UTC) :{{done|Blocked and deleted}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:21, 15 May 2025 (UTC) == ALAND Official reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|ALAND Official}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/ALAND Official/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 11:56, 20 May 2025 (UTC) :Blocked by Atcovi. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 08:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC) == Shubhamt123 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Shubhamt123}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Shubhamt123/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 11:58, 20 May 2025 (UTC) :Blocked by Atcovi. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 08:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC) == 120.29.69.184 reported by Codename Noreste == * {{anonlinks|120.29.69.184}} Vandalism <!-- USERREPORTED:/120.29.69.184/ --> [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 17:49, 23 May 2025 (UTC) :'''Blocked''' for 2 weeks. —[[User:Atcovi|Atcovi]] [[User talk:Atcovi|(Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Atcovi|Contribs)]] 18:05, 24 May 2025 (UTC) == Shreyaeyecentre reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Shreyaeyecentre}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Shreyaeyecentre/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:06, 24 May 2025 (UTC) :{{done|Blocked}} [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 14:55, 24 May 2025 (UTC) == Rkguptagovind reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Rkguptagovind}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Rkguptagovind/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:32, 25 May 2025 (UTC) :Deleted and gave a warning. Further promotional materials will result in block. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:36, 25 May 2025 (UTC) == 2600:100F:A021:8696:19AA:19AD:376D:8929 reported by Hide on Rosé == * {{anonlinks|2600:100F:A021:8696:19AA:19AD:376D:8929}} LTA <!-- USERREPORTED:/2600:100F:A021:8696:19AA:19AD:376D:8929/ --> [[User:Hide on Rosé|Hide on Rosé]] ([[User talk:Hide on Rosé|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hide on Rosé|contribs]]) 03:53, 29 May 2025 (UTC) == Digitalkirpal reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Digitalkirpal}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Digitalkirpal/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 07:37, 29 May 2025 (UTC) :[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Blocked and deleted'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:10, 29 May 2025 (UTC) == Hayadamacproperties reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Hayadamacproperties}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Hayadamacproperties/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 09:32, 29 May 2025 (UTC) :[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Blocked and deleted'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:10, 29 May 2025 (UTC) == SiddhnathPune reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|SiddhnathPune}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/SiddhnathPune/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:02, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Atcovi|Atcovi]] [[User talk:Atcovi|(Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Atcovi|Contribs)]] 13:45, 3 June 2025 (UTC) == Luccy sagar reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Luccy sagar}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Luccy sagar/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:04, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Atcovi|Atcovi]] [[User talk:Atcovi|(Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Atcovi|Contribs)]] 13:45, 3 June 2025 (UTC) == Dlsslsl reported by EggRoll97 == * {{userlinks|Dlsslsl}} Vandalism <!-- USERREPORTED:/Dlsslsl/ --> [[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]] ([[User talk:EggRoll97|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/EggRoll97|contribs]]) 01:54, 4 June 2025 (UTC) :[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Done'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} by Atcovi —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:08, 4 June 2025 (UTC) == 2.49.185.241 reported by Codename Noreste == * {{anonlinks|2.49.185.241}} Content blanking. <!-- USERREPORTED:/2.49.185.241/ --> [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 05:18, 8 June 2025 (UTC) :{{done}} --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 05:59, 8 June 2025 (UTC) == Bugbattlers134 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Bugbattlers134}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Bugbattlers134/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:11, 11 June 2025 (UTC) :[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Blocked and deleted'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:26, 11 June 2025 (UTC) == 2600:1700:D480:A020:E508:19C5:FAF7:F7A2 reported by Codename Noreste == * {{anonlinks|2600:1700:D480:A020:E508:19C5:FAF7:F7A2}} Vandalism. <!-- USERREPORTED:/2600:1700:D480:A020:E508:19C5:FAF7:F7A2/ --> [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 03:38, 12 June 2025 (UTC) == Haseena7 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Haseena7}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Haseena7/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:06, 13 June 2025 (UTC) :Blocked locally by {{Noping|Kittycataclysm}} and globally locked by {{Noping|Wim b}}. [[User:TTWIDEE|TTWIDEE]] ([[User talk:TTWIDEE|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/TTWIDEE|contribs]]) 18:15, 14 June 2025 (UTC) == Quarkphysics20 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Quarkphysics20}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Quarkphysics20/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:57, 13 June 2025 (UTC) == Billyx65 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Billyx65}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Billyx65/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 23:18, 17 June 2025 (UTC) :[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Done'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:42, 18 June 2025 (UTC) == Urbenteam reported by Codename Noreste == * {{userlinks|Urbenteam}} Spam-only account, see filter log. <!-- USERREPORTED:/Urbenteam/ --> [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 06:39, 20 June 2025 (UTC) :{{done}}. [[User:Svartava|Svartava]] ([[User talk:Svartava|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Svartava|contribs]]) 06:49, 20 June 2025 (UTC) == RalphChavarria reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|RalphChavarria}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/RalphChavarria/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:28, 20 June 2025 (UTC) == Ayomide77 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Ayomide77}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Ayomide77/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 11:54, 24 June 2025 (UTC) :[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Done'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 20:54, 24 June 2025 (UTC) == AYOMI11111111 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|AYOMI11111111}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/AYOMI11111111/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 13:50, 25 June 2025 (UTC) == Chetnainternational reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Chetnainternational}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Chetnainternational/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 06:52, 26 June 2025 (UTC) == Mariahfelix12 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Mariahfelix12}} [[:w:WP:NOTWEBHOST]] <!-- USERREPORTED:/Mariahfelix12/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 07:26, 26 June 2025 (UTC) == Faith.reyez reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Faith.reyez}} [[:w:WP:NOTWEBHOST]] <!-- USERREPORTED:/Faith.reyez/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 07:27, 26 June 2025 (UTC) == Kaeshia reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Kaeshia}} [[:w:WP:NOTWEBHOST]] <!-- USERREPORTED:/Kaeshia/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 07:27, 26 June 2025 (UTC) == SEObacklink963622 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|SEObacklink963622}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/SEObacklink963622/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 11:44, 26 June 2025 (UTC) :Globally locked by {{Noping|Tegel}}. [[User:TTWIDEE|TTWIDEE]] ([[User talk:TTWIDEE|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/TTWIDEE|contribs]]) 18:59, 27 June 2025 (UTC) == Feranmi437 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Feranmi437}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Feranmi437/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 22:56, 30 June 2025 (UTC) == Makerofjacket reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Makerofjacket}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Makerofjacket/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:12, 1 July 2025 (UTC) bv2wxla5ffl1xwy38ov89clxya5omoi 4520918 4520768 2025-07-02T08:10:40Z ArchiverBot 1227662 Bot: Archiving 2 threads (older than 50 days) to [[Wikibooks:Reading room/Administrative Assistance/Archives/2025/May]] 4520918 wikitext text/x-wiki __NEWSECTIONLINK__ {{Discussion Rooms}} {{shortcut|WB:AN|WB:AA}} {{TOC left}} {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikibooks:Reading room/Administrative Assistance/Archives/%(year)d/%(monthname)s |algo = old(50d) |counter = 1 |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 1 }} {{ombox|type=content|text='''To request a rename or usurpation''', go to the global request page at Meta [[meta:SRUC|here]].<br />''Please do not post those requests here!''}} {{Clear}} Welcome to the '''Administrative Assistance reading room'''. You can request assistance from [[WB:ADMIN|administrators]] for handling a variety of problems here and alert them about problems which may require special actions not normally used during regular content editing. Please be patient as administrators are often quite busy with either their own projects or trying to perform general maintenance and cleanup. You can deal with most vandalism yourself: [[Wikibooks:Dealing with vandalism|fix it]], then [[Wikibooks:Templates/User_notices|warn the user]]. If there is repeated vandalism by one user, lots of vandalism on a single page, or vandalism from many users, tell an admin here, or in [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikibooks #wikibooks] (say <code>!admin</code> to get attention). For more general questions and assistance that doesn't require an administrator, please use the [[WB:HELP|Assistance Reading Room]]. {{clear}} [[Category:Reading room]] == JamesRahul32 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|JamesRahul32}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/JamesRahul32/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 09:25, 13 May 2025 (UTC) :{{done|Blocked and deleted}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:10, 13 May 2025 (UTC) == 深圳怡康医院 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|深圳怡康医院}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/深圳怡康医院/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 03:59, 15 May 2025 (UTC) :Done by Kittycataclysm. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 11:29, 16 May 2025 (UTC) == Wazih Perfume & Fragness reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Wazih Perfume & Fragness}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Wazih Perfume & Fragness/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 11:47, 15 May 2025 (UTC) :{{done|Blocked and deleted}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:21, 15 May 2025 (UTC) == ALAND Official reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|ALAND Official}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/ALAND Official/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 11:56, 20 May 2025 (UTC) :Blocked by Atcovi. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 08:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC) == Shubhamt123 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Shubhamt123}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Shubhamt123/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 11:58, 20 May 2025 (UTC) :Blocked by Atcovi. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 08:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC) == 120.29.69.184 reported by Codename Noreste == * {{anonlinks|120.29.69.184}} Vandalism <!-- USERREPORTED:/120.29.69.184/ --> [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 17:49, 23 May 2025 (UTC) :'''Blocked''' for 2 weeks. —[[User:Atcovi|Atcovi]] [[User talk:Atcovi|(Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Atcovi|Contribs)]] 18:05, 24 May 2025 (UTC) == Shreyaeyecentre reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Shreyaeyecentre}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Shreyaeyecentre/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:06, 24 May 2025 (UTC) :{{done|Blocked}} [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 14:55, 24 May 2025 (UTC) == Rkguptagovind reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Rkguptagovind}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Rkguptagovind/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:32, 25 May 2025 (UTC) :Deleted and gave a warning. Further promotional materials will result in block. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:36, 25 May 2025 (UTC) == 2600:100F:A021:8696:19AA:19AD:376D:8929 reported by Hide on Rosé == * {{anonlinks|2600:100F:A021:8696:19AA:19AD:376D:8929}} LTA <!-- USERREPORTED:/2600:100F:A021:8696:19AA:19AD:376D:8929/ --> [[User:Hide on Rosé|Hide on Rosé]] ([[User talk:Hide on Rosé|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hide on Rosé|contribs]]) 03:53, 29 May 2025 (UTC) == Digitalkirpal reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Digitalkirpal}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Digitalkirpal/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 07:37, 29 May 2025 (UTC) :[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Blocked and deleted'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:10, 29 May 2025 (UTC) == Hayadamacproperties reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Hayadamacproperties}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Hayadamacproperties/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 09:32, 29 May 2025 (UTC) :[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Blocked and deleted'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:10, 29 May 2025 (UTC) == SiddhnathPune reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|SiddhnathPune}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/SiddhnathPune/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:02, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Atcovi|Atcovi]] [[User talk:Atcovi|(Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Atcovi|Contribs)]] 13:45, 3 June 2025 (UTC) == Luccy sagar reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Luccy sagar}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Luccy sagar/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:04, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Atcovi|Atcovi]] [[User talk:Atcovi|(Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Atcovi|Contribs)]] 13:45, 3 June 2025 (UTC) == Dlsslsl reported by EggRoll97 == * {{userlinks|Dlsslsl}} Vandalism <!-- USERREPORTED:/Dlsslsl/ --> [[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]] ([[User talk:EggRoll97|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/EggRoll97|contribs]]) 01:54, 4 June 2025 (UTC) :[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Done'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} by Atcovi —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:08, 4 June 2025 (UTC) == 2.49.185.241 reported by Codename Noreste == * {{anonlinks|2.49.185.241}} Content blanking. <!-- USERREPORTED:/2.49.185.241/ --> [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 05:18, 8 June 2025 (UTC) :{{done}} --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 05:59, 8 June 2025 (UTC) == Bugbattlers134 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Bugbattlers134}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Bugbattlers134/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:11, 11 June 2025 (UTC) :[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Blocked and deleted'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:26, 11 June 2025 (UTC) == 2600:1700:D480:A020:E508:19C5:FAF7:F7A2 reported by Codename Noreste == * {{anonlinks|2600:1700:D480:A020:E508:19C5:FAF7:F7A2}} Vandalism. <!-- USERREPORTED:/2600:1700:D480:A020:E508:19C5:FAF7:F7A2/ --> [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 03:38, 12 June 2025 (UTC) == Haseena7 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Haseena7}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Haseena7/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:06, 13 June 2025 (UTC) :Blocked locally by {{Noping|Kittycataclysm}} and globally locked by {{Noping|Wim b}}. [[User:TTWIDEE|TTWIDEE]] ([[User talk:TTWIDEE|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/TTWIDEE|contribs]]) 18:15, 14 June 2025 (UTC) == Quarkphysics20 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Quarkphysics20}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Quarkphysics20/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:57, 13 June 2025 (UTC) == Billyx65 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Billyx65}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Billyx65/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 23:18, 17 June 2025 (UTC) :[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Done'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:42, 18 June 2025 (UTC) == Urbenteam reported by Codename Noreste == * {{userlinks|Urbenteam}} Spam-only account, see filter log. <!-- USERREPORTED:/Urbenteam/ --> [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 06:39, 20 June 2025 (UTC) :{{done}}. [[User:Svartava|Svartava]] ([[User talk:Svartava|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Svartava|contribs]]) 06:49, 20 June 2025 (UTC) == RalphChavarria reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|RalphChavarria}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/RalphChavarria/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:28, 20 June 2025 (UTC) == Ayomide77 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Ayomide77}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Ayomide77/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 11:54, 24 June 2025 (UTC) :[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Done'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 20:54, 24 June 2025 (UTC) == AYOMI11111111 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|AYOMI11111111}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/AYOMI11111111/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 13:50, 25 June 2025 (UTC) == Chetnainternational reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Chetnainternational}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Chetnainternational/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 06:52, 26 June 2025 (UTC) == Mariahfelix12 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Mariahfelix12}} [[:w:WP:NOTWEBHOST]] <!-- USERREPORTED:/Mariahfelix12/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 07:26, 26 June 2025 (UTC) == Faith.reyez reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Faith.reyez}} [[:w:WP:NOTWEBHOST]] <!-- USERREPORTED:/Faith.reyez/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 07:27, 26 June 2025 (UTC) == Kaeshia reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Kaeshia}} [[:w:WP:NOTWEBHOST]] <!-- USERREPORTED:/Kaeshia/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 07:27, 26 June 2025 (UTC) == SEObacklink963622 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|SEObacklink963622}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/SEObacklink963622/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 11:44, 26 June 2025 (UTC) :Globally locked by {{Noping|Tegel}}. [[User:TTWIDEE|TTWIDEE]] ([[User talk:TTWIDEE|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/TTWIDEE|contribs]]) 18:59, 27 June 2025 (UTC) == Feranmi437 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Feranmi437}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Feranmi437/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 22:56, 30 June 2025 (UTC) == Makerofjacket reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Makerofjacket}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Makerofjacket/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:12, 1 July 2025 (UTC) qacaob1zqfsxi2jja6wq58k7pxo4pmi 4520933 4520918 2025-07-02T11:47:12Z MathXplore 3097823 Reporting Collegele2 4520933 wikitext text/x-wiki __NEWSECTIONLINK__ {{Discussion Rooms}} {{shortcut|WB:AN|WB:AA}} {{TOC left}} {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikibooks:Reading room/Administrative Assistance/Archives/%(year)d/%(monthname)s |algo = old(50d) |counter = 1 |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 1 }} {{ombox|type=content|text='''To request a rename or usurpation''', go to the global request page at Meta [[meta:SRUC|here]].<br />''Please do not post those requests here!''}} {{Clear}} Welcome to the '''Administrative Assistance reading room'''. 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For more general questions and assistance that doesn't require an administrator, please use the [[WB:HELP|Assistance Reading Room]]. {{clear}} [[Category:Reading room]] == JamesRahul32 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|JamesRahul32}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/JamesRahul32/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 09:25, 13 May 2025 (UTC) :{{done|Blocked and deleted}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:10, 13 May 2025 (UTC) == 深圳怡康医院 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|深圳怡康医院}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/深圳怡康医院/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 03:59, 15 May 2025 (UTC) :Done by Kittycataclysm. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 11:29, 16 May 2025 (UTC) == Wazih Perfume & Fragness reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Wazih Perfume & Fragness}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Wazih Perfume & Fragness/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 11:47, 15 May 2025 (UTC) :{{done|Blocked and deleted}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:21, 15 May 2025 (UTC) == ALAND Official reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|ALAND Official}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/ALAND Official/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 11:56, 20 May 2025 (UTC) :Blocked by Atcovi. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 08:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC) == Shubhamt123 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Shubhamt123}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Shubhamt123/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 11:58, 20 May 2025 (UTC) :Blocked by Atcovi. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 08:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC) == 120.29.69.184 reported by Codename Noreste == * {{anonlinks|120.29.69.184}} Vandalism <!-- USERREPORTED:/120.29.69.184/ --> [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 17:49, 23 May 2025 (UTC) :'''Blocked''' for 2 weeks. —[[User:Atcovi|Atcovi]] [[User talk:Atcovi|(Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Atcovi|Contribs)]] 18:05, 24 May 2025 (UTC) == Shreyaeyecentre reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Shreyaeyecentre}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Shreyaeyecentre/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:06, 24 May 2025 (UTC) :{{done|Blocked}} [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 14:55, 24 May 2025 (UTC) == Rkguptagovind reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Rkguptagovind}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Rkguptagovind/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:32, 25 May 2025 (UTC) :Deleted and gave a warning. 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Subaru uses a '''17-character VIN''' format and code for vehicles sold in the United States. These rules also largely apply to the Saab 9-2x, a badge-engineered Subaru Impreza WRX wagon. ==Subaru VIN code== The following sample is the sequence and meaning of each character in the Subaru VIN: <div class=center> <table class="wikitable" border="1"><caption></caption><tr> <th>Position</th> <th>Sample</th> <th>Description</th> </tr><tr> <td>1</td> <td>J</td> <td rowspan=3>[[#Subaru WMIs|World Manufacturer Identifier]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>2</td> <td>F</td> </tr><tr> <td>3</td> <td>1</td> </tr><tr> <td>4</td> <td>C</td> <td>[[#Line types|Line type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>5</td> <td>X</td> <td>[[#Body styles|Body style]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>6</td> <td>8</td> <td>[[#Engine types|Engine type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>7</td> <td>6</td> <td>[[#Models|Model identifier]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>8</td> <td>5</td> <td>[[#Restraint types|Restraint type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>9</td> <td>9</td> <td>[[../../Check digit/]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>10</td> <td>T</td> <td>[[../../Model year/]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>11</td> <td>H</td> <td>[[#Plants and transmission types|Plant of manufacture & transmission type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>12</td> <td>1</td> <td rowspan=6>Sequential production number </tr><tr> <td>13</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr> <td>14</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr> <td>15</td> <td>2</td> </tr><tr> <td>16</td> <td>1</td> </tr><tr> <td>17</td> <td>6</td> </table> </div> <div class="center"><small>The above serial number describes the following vehicle built in Japan by Fuji Heavy Industries:</small></div> <div class="center"><small>1996 Subaru Alcyone SVX, 3.3L EG33 engine, AWD 4EAT transmission, manual seat belts<br />with driver / passenger airbags. The 216th vehicle produced during the 1996 model year.</small></div> ===Subaru WMIs=== The '''WMI''' is specified in the '''<u>first three</u>''' characters of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !WMI !Country !Description !Vehicle Types |- |JF1 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |Passenger Vehicle |- |JF2 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |MPV |- |JF3 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |truck |- |MMR |Thailand |Tan Chong Subaru Automotive (Thailand) Ltd. | |- |PLP |Malaysia |Tan Chong Motor Assemblies | |- |4S3 |USA |Subaru-Isuzu Automotive /<br>Subaru of Indiana Automotive |Passenger Vehicle |- |4S4 |USA |Subaru-Isuzu Automotive /<br>Subaru of Indiana Automotive |MPV |} MPV means Multi-Purpose Vehicle (station wagon, SUV, van or truck) </div> ===Line type=== The '''line type''' is specified in the '''<u>fourth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |A |STD/DL/GL/GLF/GL-10/RX/Loyale/Brat |- |A |XT/XT6 |- |B |Legacy/Outback/Baja |- |C |SVX |- |G |Subaru Impreza '93-/Impreza WRX '02-'14/XV Crosstrek '13-'15/Crosstrek '16-/Saab 9-2X '05-'06 |- |K |Justy |- |S |Forester |- |V |WRX '15- |- |V |Levorg (2nd gen. known as WRX Sportswagon in Australia & WRX wagon in S.E. Asia) (Not sold in North America) |- |W |B9 Tribeca/Tribeca |- |W |Ascent |- |Z |Subaru BRZ/Scion FR-S/Toyota 86/Toyota GR86 |} </div> ===Body style=== The '''body style''' is specified in the '''<u>fifth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |A |'87-'94 Justy 3-Door |- |A |'15-'21 WRX, WRX STi sedan (1st gen.) |- |B |'81-'84 DL/GL 4-door sedan (2nd gen.) |- |B |'22- WRX sedan (2nd gen.) |- |C |'85-'93 DL/GL/GL-10/RX/Turbo/Loyale sedan (3rd gen.) |- |C |'90-'94 Legacy sedan (1st gen.) |- |C |'93-'01 Impreza sedan (1st gen.) |- |C |'13-'20 BRZ coupe (1st gen.) |- |D |'90-'94 Justy 5-Door |- |D |'95-'99 Legacy sedan, '97-'99 Legacy SUS (2nd gen. Legacy) |- |D |'02-'07 Impreza sedan, Impreza WRX sedan (2nd gen.) |- |D |'22- BRZ coupe (2nd gen.) |- |E |'00-'04 Legacy sedan, Outback sedan (3rd gen. Legacy) |- |E |'08-'11 Impreza sedan, '08-'10 Impreza WRX sedan (3rd gen.) |- |F |'81-'89 STD/DL/GL 3-door hatchback (2nd gen.) |- |F |'93-'01 Impreza wagon, '95-'01 Impreza Outback Sport (1st gen.) |- |F |'94 Legacy GT wagon [raised-roof] (1st gen.) |- |F |Wagon: Forester (1st gen.) '98-'02 |- |G |'86-'90 DL/GL/RX/Turbo/Loyale 3-door coupe (3rd gen.) |- |G |'96-'99 Legacy Outback wagon [raised-roof] (2nd gen. Legacy) |- |G |'02-'07 Impreza wagon, Impreza WRX wagon, Impreza Outback Sport (2nd gen.), '05-'06 Saab 9-2X |- |G |Wagon: Forester (2nd gen.) '03-'08 |- |H |'00-'04 Legacy wagon, Outback wagon (3rd gen. Legacy) |- |H |'08-'11 Impreza 5-door hatchback, '08-'11 Impreza Outback Sport, '08-'10 Impreza WRX 5-door hatchback (3rd gen.) |- |H |Wagon: Forester (3rd gen.) '09-'13 |- |J |'90-'94 Legacy wagon [non-raised-roof] (1st gen.) |- |J |'12-'16 Impreza sedan (4th gen.) |- |J |Wagon: Forester (4th gen.) '14-'18 |- |K |'89-'90 GL/GL-10/Turbo/Loyale Touring wagon [raised roof] (3rd gen.) |- |K |'95-'99 Legacy wagon [non-raised-roof] (2nd gen.) |- |K |'17-'23 Impreza sedan (5th gen.) |- |K |Wagon: Forester (5th gen.) '19-'24, Forester Wilderness '22-'25 |- |L |'05-'09 Legacy sedan, '05-'07 Outback sedan (4th gen. Legacy) |- |L |Wagon: Forester (6th gen.) '25-, Forester Wilderness '26- |- |M |'81-'84 DL/GL 4-door wagon (2nd gen.) |- |M |'95-'01 Impreza coupe (1st gen.) |- |M |'10-'14 Legacy sedan (5th gen.) |- |M |'19- Ascent (1st gen.) |- |M |Levorg wagon (1st gen.) (Not sold in North America) |- |N |'85-'94 DL/GL/GL-10/Turbo/Loyale wagon (3rd gen.) |- |N |'13-'16 Scion FR-S, '17-'20 Toyota 86, '22- Toyota GR86 coupe |- |N |'15-'19 Legacy sedan (6th gen.) |- |N |Levorg wagon (WRX Sportswagon in Australia/WRX wagon in S.E. Asia) (2nd gen.) (Not sold in North America) |- |P |'05-'07 (& '08-'09 in Canada) Legacy wagon, '05-'09 Outback wagon (4th gen. Legacy) |- |P |'12-'16 Impreza 5-door hatchback (4th gen.), '13-'15 XV Crosstrek, '16-'17 Crosstrek (1st gen.) |- |R |Brat 1981 (1st gen.) |- |R |'08-'14 Impreza WRX STi 5-door hatchback [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |R |'11-'14 Impreza WRX 5-door hatchback [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |R |'10-'14 Outback wagon |- |S |'15-'19 Outback Wagon |- |T |Brat 1982-1985 (2nd gen.) |- |T |'03-'06 Baja |- |T |'17-'23 Impreza 5-door hatchback (5th gen.), '18-'23 Crosstrek (2nd gen.) |- |T |'20-'25 Outback Wagon |- |U |Brat 1986-1987 (2nd gen.) |- |U |'24- Impreza 5-door hatchback (6th gen.), '24- Crosstrek (3rd gen.) |- |V |'11-'14 Impreza WRX, WRX STi sedan [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |W |'81-'84 DL/GL/GLF 2-door hardtop coupe (2nd gen.) |- |W |'20-'25 Legacy sedan (7th gen.) |- |X |'85-'91 XT/XT6 coupe |- |X |'92-'97 SVX coupe |- |X |'06-'07 B9 Tribeca, '08-'14 Tribeca |} </div> ===Engine type=== The '''engine type''' is specified in the '''<u>sixth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" |+Position 6 !VIN code !Engine !Application |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FA20D flat-4 (Toyota 4U-GSE).<br> Toyota D-4S Direct/Port injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru BRZ '13-'20, Toyota Scion FR-S '13-'16, Toyota 86 '17-'20 |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20B flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza '12-'16 (except WRX models), XV Crosstrek '13-'15,<br> Crosstrek '16-'17 |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza '17-'23, Impreza Base, Sport '24-'25,<br> Crosstrek Base '18-'25, Premium '18-'24, Limited '18-'20 |- |A |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Forester '19-'24, Forester Wilderness '22-'25, Legacy '20-'25,<br> Outback '20-'25 |- |A |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA24F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Ascent '19-'25, WRX '22-'25 |- |B |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20X flat-4 + 1 electric motor.<br> Nickel-metal hydride Battery Pack. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru XV Crosstrek Hybrid '14-'15, Crosstrek Hybrid '16 |- |B |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve FA24D flat-4. Toyota D-4S Direct/Port injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru BRZ '22-'25, Toyota GR86 '22-'25 |- |D |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20V flat-4 + 2 electric motors. Lithium-ion battery pack. Direct injection. Dual VVT. Atkinson cycle. |Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid ([[w:PHEV|PHEV]]) '19-'23 |- |D |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Forester '25 (except Wilderness), '26 |- |G |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA24F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Legacy XT '20-'25, Legacy Sport '23-'25,<br> Outback XT '20-'25, Outback Wilderness '22-'25 |- |H |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza RS '24-'25,<br> Crosstrek Sport '21-'25, Limited '21-'25, Wilderness '24-'25, Premium '25- |- |S |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4 + 2 electric motors. Lithium-ion battery pack. Direct injection. Dual VVT. Atkinson cycle. |Subaru Forester Hybrid '25-'26 |- |1 |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA20F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX '15-'21 |- |2 |1.6L OHV, 8-valve EA71 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 2WD. |Subaru Standard Hatchback 2wd '87, GL Hatchback 2wd w/man. trans. '87 |- |2 |1.8L SOHC, 16-valve EJ18 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza (all models) '93-'94, Impreza Base, L 1.8, Outback Sport 1.8 '95 |- |2 |1.8L SOHC, 16-valve EJ18 flat-4. MPI. AWD. |Subaru Impreza Brighton '96-'97 |- |2 |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ205 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza WRX '02-'05, Saab 9-2X Aero '05 |- |2 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX STi '15-'21, STi S209 '19 |- |3 |3.3L DOHC, 24-valve EG33 flat-6. MPI. |Subaru SVX '92-'95 |- |3 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. FWD. |Subaru Legacy L '96 |- |3 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX STi Type RA '18 |- |4 |1.8L OHV, 8-valve EA81 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 2WD. |Subaru GL Hatchback 2wd w/auto. trans. '87, GL Hatchback 2wd '88-'89 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. TBI. 2WD. |Subaru DL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 2wd '88-'89, GL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 2wd '88-'89, GL-10 sedan, wagon 2wd '88, Loyale 2wd '90-'93 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. MPI. 2WD. |Subaru XT coupe 2wd '85-'91 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 2WD. |Subaru GL Turbo 2wd 3-d coupe '87, GL Turbo 2wd sedan '87, GL Turbo 2wd wagon '87, GL-10 Turbo 2wd sedan '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 2wd wagon '87-'89, Loyale Turbo 2wd '90, XT coupe Turbo 2wd '85-'87 |- |4 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. AWD. |Subaru Impreza L '96-'01, LX '96, Impreza Outback Sport '96-'01,<br> Legacy Brighton, L '96-'99, LS '96, Outback '96 |- |5 |1.8L OHV, 8-valve EA81 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 4WD. |Subaru GL Hatchback 4wd '87-'89, Brat GL 4wd '87 |- |5 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. TBI. 4WD. |Subaru DL wagon 4wd '88-'89, GL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 4wd '88-'89, Loyale 4wd '90-'94 |- |5 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 4WD. |Subaru RX Turbo 4wd 3-d coupe '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd sedan '88-'89, RX Turbo 4wd sedan '87-'88, GL Turbo 4wd wagon '88-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon '88-'89, Loyale Turbo 4wd '90 |- |6 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza L 2.2 '95, LX '95, Impreza Outback Sport 2.2 '95, Legacy '90-'95 |- |6 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve turbo EJ22T flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Legacy Sport Sedan '91-'94, [LE] Touring Wagon '92-'94 |- |6 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve EJ25D flat-4 (Phase I). MPI. |Subaru Impreza 2.5RS '98, Forester '98, Legacy 2.5GT '96-'99, LSi '96-'97,<br> SUS '97-'99, Outback '96-'99 |- |6 |2.5L SOHC, 16-valve EJ253 flat-4 (Phase II). MPI. |Subaru Impreza 2.5RS '99-'01, Impreza (except WRX) '02-'05,<br> Impreza Outback Sport '02-'05, Forester '99-'05, Legacy '00-'05,<br> Outback '00-'05, Baja Base '03, Sport '03-'06, Saab 9-2X Linear '05 |- |6 |2.5L SOHC, 16-valve EJ253 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVL. |Subaru Impreza (except WRX) '06-'11, Subaru Impreza Outback Sport '06-'11, Forester '06-'10, Legacy '06-'09, Outback '06-'09, Saab 9-2X 2.5i '06 |- |6 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ255 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVT. |Subaru Forester XT '04-'10, Legacy GT '05-'09, Outback XT '05-'09,<br> Baja Turbo '04-'06 |- |7 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. 2-bbl. carb. 2wd. |Subaru Justy '87-'89, Justy DL '90-'92 |- |7 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. MPI. 2wd. |Subaru Justy GL '90-'94, Justy DL '93-'94 |- |7 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 4WD w/ air suspension. |Subaru GL-10 Turbo 4wd sedan '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon w/auto. trans. '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon w/man. trans. '88, XT coupe Turbo 4wd '85-'89 |- |7 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ255 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVT. |Subaru Impreza WRX '06-'14, Impreza WRX STi '04-'07, Impreza 2.5GT '09-'10,<br> Saab 9-2X Aero '06 |- |8 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. 2-bbl. carb. 4wd. |Subaru Justy GL 4wd '88-'89 |- |8 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. MPI. 4wd. |Subaru Justy GL 4wd '90-'94 |- |8 |2.7L SOHC, 12-valve ER27 flat-6. MPI. FWD. |Subaru XT6 '88-'91 |- |8 |3.3L DOHC, 24-valve EG33 flat-6. MPI. AWD. |Subaru SVX '96-'97 |- |8 |3.0L DOHC, 24-valve EZ30D flat-6. MPI. Intake VVT & VVL. |Subaru Legacy 3.0R '08-'09, Outback H6-3.0 '01-'04, Outback 3.0R '05-'09,<br> B9 Tribeca '06-'07 |- |8 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza WRX STi '08-'14 |- |9 |2.7L SOHC, 12-valve ER27 flat-6. MPI. AWD. |Subaru XT6 '88-'91 |- |9 |3.6L DOHC, 24-valve EZ36D flat-6. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Tribeca '08-'14 |} <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |1300cc - 1989; 1800cc FWD 1996 |- |2 |1600cc - 1989; 1800cc Impreza 1993-95; 1800cc Impreza AWD 1996-97; 2000cc AWD Turbo 2002-05 |- |3 |1600 4WD - 1989; 3300cc FWD/AWD 1992-1995; 2200cc FWD 1996-99 |- |4 |1800cc 1985-94; 2200cc AWD 1996-2000; FB 1600cc DIT AWD 2015+ |- |5 |1800cc 4WD w/out air susp - 1988, 1989; 1800cc 4WD 1990-94 2000cc 2004- |- |6 |2200cc 1990; 2200cc FWD/AWD 1991-95; 2200cc AWD (Ghost); 2500cc AWD 1996-2000; 2500cc AWD |- |7 |1800cc 4WD w/ air susp; 2200cc FWD 1989-94; 2500cc AWD Turbo |- |8 |2500cc FWD; 1200cc 4WD 1991; 1200cc AWD 1992-94; 3000cc 2001-2009; 3300cc FWD/AWD 1996-97 |- |9 |2500cc 4WD w/ & w/out air susp 1989-91; 3600cc 2008-up |- |A |2400cc AWD |- |D |2000cc DOHC Turbo Diesel |} </div> ===Model=== The '''model''' is identified in the '''<u>seventh</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |Base |- |2 |Brighton |- |3 |L |- |4 |2.5GT with cloth |- |5 |LS/S |- |6 |LSi, Outback base |- |7 |GT/RS, Outback AWP |- |8 |Outback Limited Wagon/SUS |- |9 |Postal Vehicle/WRX/Outback VDC |- |0 |Outback L.L. Bean |- |K |STI WRX/Legacy/Outback |- |L |Outback |- |P |Ascent |- |V |XV Crosstrek |} </div> ===Restraint Type (Passenger) or Weight Class (MPV)=== The '''restraint type''', for passenger vehicles, or the weight class (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating), for MPVs, is specified in the '''<u>eighth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |No Passive Restraint |- |2 |Automatic Seat Belt w/o Air Bag |- |3 |Automatic Seat Belt w/ Air Bag |- |4 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Air Bag 1993-94; Automatic Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags |- |5 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags |- |6 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags and Side Air Bags |- |A |Class A (GVWR 3000 lbs. or less) |- |B |Class B (GVWR 3001-4000 lbs.) |- |C |Class C (GVWR 4001-5000 lbs.) |- |D |Class D (GVWR 5001-6000 lbs.) |} </div> The '''Check Digit''' is identified in the '''<u>ninth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN The '''Model Year''' is identified in the '''<u>tenth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN Letters began being reused in 2010. <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |2001 |- |2 |2002 |- |3 |2003 |- |4 |2004 |- |5 |2005 |- |6 |2006 |- |7 |2007 |- |8 |2008 |- |9 |2009 |- |A |1980, 2010 |- |B |1981, 2011 |- |C |1982, 2012 |- |D |1983, 2013 |- |E |1984, 2014 |- |F |1985, 2015 |- |G |1986, 2016 |- |H |1987, 2017 |- |I |not used |- |J |1988, 2018 |- |K |1989, 2019 |- |L |1990, 2020 |- |M |1991, 2021 |- |N |1992, 2022 |- |P |1993, 2023 |- |R |1994, 2024 |- |S |1995, 2025 |- |T |1996, 2026 |- |V |1997 |- |W |1998 |- |X |1999 |- |Y |2000 |} </div> ===Plants and transmission type=== The '''assembly plant''' and '''transmission type''' is specified in the '''<u>eleventh</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Plant !Transmission |- |1 |SIA |FWD 5MT |- |3 |SIA |Full-time AWD 6MT/AT |- |4 |SIA |Full-time AWD 5AT |- |5 |SIA |Sport Shift Automatic |- |6 |SIA |Full-time AWD 5MT |- |7 |SIA |Full-time AWD 4EAT |- |8 |SIA |Full-time AWD 4EAT (Postal RHD) |- |9 |SIA |FWD 4EAT |- |A |FHI |FWD 4MT |- |B |FHI |FWD 5MT |- |C |FHI |FWD 3AT/ECVT |- |D |FHI |On-demand AWD 5MT |- |E |FHI | 4spd 4wd Dual Range MT 81-84, 85-89 Hatchback, 85-89 Brat. 5spd 4wd dual range MT 85-89 |- |F |FHI |On-demand AWD 3AT |- |G |FHI |Full-time AWD 6MT. Full-time AWD CVT. |- |H |FHI |Full-time AWD 4EAT |- |K |FHI |FWD 4EAT |- |L |FHI |Full-time AWD 6MT |- |P |FHI |Full-time AWD 4EAT (Postal RHD) |} </div> ** SIA = Subaru-Isuzu Automotive (now known as Subaru of Indiana Automotive), Lafayette, Indiana ** FHI = Fuji Heavy Industries, Gunma, Japan The '''Vehicle Production Sequence''' number is specified in the '''<u>twelfth - seventeenth</u>''' characters of the Subaru VIN ** 100000 and after - Legacy Sedan SUS (Jan 98 - May 98) ** 210001 and after - Legacy Sedan ** 310001 and after - Legacy Station Wagon ** 410001 and after - Impreza Coupe; Ascent ** 510001 and after - Impreza Sedan ** 610001 and after - Legacy Station Wagon Outback ** 710001 and after - Forester Wagon ** 810001 and after - Impreza Sports Wagon ==External links== Online [http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Subaru Subaru VIN decoder] Online [www.auto-vin-decoder.com Universal VIN decoder] {{BookCat}} 743wj4mbpatt9qcs5pz1v3eqgj56h3j 4520892 4520885 2025-07-01T23:05:42Z JustTheFacts33 3434282 /* Model */ 4520892 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Warning}}{{clear}} *NOTE: This information appears to not conform with current information *Note: This information is incorrect for 4th Generation JDM Legacys. Subaru uses a '''17-character VIN''' format and code for vehicles sold in the United States. These rules also largely apply to the Saab 9-2x, a badge-engineered Subaru Impreza WRX wagon. ==Subaru VIN code== The following sample is the sequence and meaning of each character in the Subaru VIN: <div class=center> <table class="wikitable" border="1"><caption></caption><tr> <th>Position</th> <th>Sample</th> <th>Description</th> </tr><tr> <td>1</td> <td>J</td> <td rowspan=3>[[#Subaru WMIs|World Manufacturer Identifier]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>2</td> <td>F</td> </tr><tr> <td>3</td> <td>1</td> </tr><tr> <td>4</td> <td>C</td> <td>[[#Line types|Line type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>5</td> <td>X</td> <td>[[#Body styles|Body style]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>6</td> <td>8</td> <td>[[#Engine types|Engine type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>7</td> <td>6</td> <td>[[#Models|Model identifier]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>8</td> <td>5</td> <td>[[#Restraint types|Restraint type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>9</td> <td>9</td> <td>[[../../Check digit/]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>10</td> <td>T</td> <td>[[../../Model year/]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>11</td> <td>H</td> <td>[[#Plants and transmission types|Plant of manufacture & transmission type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>12</td> <td>1</td> <td rowspan=6>Sequential production number </tr><tr> <td>13</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr> <td>14</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr> <td>15</td> <td>2</td> </tr><tr> <td>16</td> <td>1</td> </tr><tr> <td>17</td> <td>6</td> </table> </div> <div class="center"><small>The above serial number describes the following vehicle built in Japan by Fuji Heavy Industries:</small></div> <div class="center"><small>1996 Subaru Alcyone SVX, 3.3L EG33 engine, AWD 4EAT transmission, manual seat belts<br />with driver / passenger airbags. The 216th vehicle produced during the 1996 model year.</small></div> ===Subaru WMIs=== The '''WMI''' is specified in the '''<u>first three</u>''' characters of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !WMI !Country !Description !Vehicle Types |- |JF1 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |Passenger Vehicle |- |JF2 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |MPV |- |JF3 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |truck |- |MMR |Thailand |Tan Chong Subaru Automotive (Thailand) Ltd. | |- |PLP |Malaysia |Tan Chong Motor Assemblies | |- |4S3 |USA |Subaru-Isuzu Automotive /<br>Subaru of Indiana Automotive |Passenger Vehicle |- |4S4 |USA |Subaru-Isuzu Automotive /<br>Subaru of Indiana Automotive |MPV |} MPV means Multi-Purpose Vehicle (station wagon, SUV, van or truck) </div> ===Line type=== The '''line type''' is specified in the '''<u>fourth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |A |STD/DL/GL/GLF/GL-10/RX/Loyale/Brat |- |A |XT/XT6 |- |B |Legacy/Outback/Baja |- |C |SVX |- |G |Subaru Impreza '93-/Impreza WRX '02-'14/XV Crosstrek '13-'15/Crosstrek '16-/Saab 9-2X '05-'06 |- |K |Justy |- |S |Forester |- |V |WRX '15- |- |V |Levorg (2nd gen. known as WRX Sportswagon in Australia & WRX wagon in S.E. Asia) (Not sold in North America) |- |W |B9 Tribeca/Tribeca |- |W |Ascent |- |Z |Subaru BRZ/Scion FR-S/Toyota 86/Toyota GR86 |} </div> ===Body style=== The '''body style''' is specified in the '''<u>fifth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |A |'87-'94 Justy 3-Door |- |A |'15-'21 WRX, WRX STi sedan (1st gen.) |- |B |'81-'84 DL/GL 4-door sedan (2nd gen.) |- |B |'22- WRX sedan (2nd gen.) |- |C |'85-'93 DL/GL/GL-10/RX/Turbo/Loyale sedan (3rd gen.) |- |C |'90-'94 Legacy sedan (1st gen.) |- |C |'93-'01 Impreza sedan (1st gen.) |- |C |'13-'20 BRZ coupe (1st gen.) |- |D |'90-'94 Justy 5-Door |- |D |'95-'99 Legacy sedan, '97-'99 Legacy SUS (2nd gen. Legacy) |- |D |'02-'07 Impreza sedan, Impreza WRX sedan (2nd gen.) |- |D |'22- BRZ coupe (2nd gen.) |- |E |'00-'04 Legacy sedan, Outback sedan (3rd gen. Legacy) |- |E |'08-'11 Impreza sedan, '08-'10 Impreza WRX sedan (3rd gen.) |- |F |'81-'89 STD/DL/GL 3-door hatchback (2nd gen.) |- |F |'93-'01 Impreza wagon, '95-'01 Impreza Outback Sport (1st gen.) |- |F |'94 Legacy GT wagon [raised-roof] (1st gen.) |- |F |Wagon: Forester (1st gen.) '98-'02 |- |G |'86-'90 DL/GL/RX/Turbo/Loyale 3-door coupe (3rd gen.) |- |G |'96-'99 Legacy Outback wagon [raised-roof] (2nd gen. Legacy) |- |G |'02-'07 Impreza wagon, Impreza WRX wagon, Impreza Outback Sport (2nd gen.), '05-'06 Saab 9-2X |- |G |Wagon: Forester (2nd gen.) '03-'08 |- |H |'00-'04 Legacy wagon, Outback wagon (3rd gen. Legacy) |- |H |'08-'11 Impreza 5-door hatchback, '08-'11 Impreza Outback Sport, '08-'10 Impreza WRX 5-door hatchback (3rd gen.) |- |H |Wagon: Forester (3rd gen.) '09-'13 |- |J |'90-'94 Legacy wagon [non-raised-roof] (1st gen.) |- |J |'12-'16 Impreza sedan (4th gen.) |- |J |Wagon: Forester (4th gen.) '14-'18 |- |K |'89-'90 GL/GL-10/Turbo/Loyale Touring wagon [raised roof] (3rd gen.) |- |K |'95-'99 Legacy wagon [non-raised-roof] (2nd gen.) |- |K |'17-'23 Impreza sedan (5th gen.) |- |K |Wagon: Forester (5th gen.) '19-'24, Forester Wilderness '22-'25 |- |L |'05-'09 Legacy sedan, '05-'07 Outback sedan (4th gen. Legacy) |- |L |Wagon: Forester (6th gen.) '25-, Forester Wilderness '26- |- |M |'81-'84 DL/GL 4-door wagon (2nd gen.) |- |M |'95-'01 Impreza coupe (1st gen.) |- |M |'10-'14 Legacy sedan (5th gen.) |- |M |'19- Ascent (1st gen.) |- |M |Levorg wagon (1st gen.) (Not sold in North America) |- |N |'85-'94 DL/GL/GL-10/Turbo/Loyale wagon (3rd gen.) |- |N |'13-'16 Scion FR-S, '17-'20 Toyota 86, '22- Toyota GR86 coupe |- |N |'15-'19 Legacy sedan (6th gen.) |- |N |Levorg wagon (WRX Sportswagon in Australia/WRX wagon in S.E. Asia) (2nd gen.) (Not sold in North America) |- |P |'05-'07 (& '08-'09 in Canada) Legacy wagon, '05-'09 Outback wagon (4th gen. Legacy) |- |P |'12-'16 Impreza 5-door hatchback (4th gen.), '13-'15 XV Crosstrek, '16-'17 Crosstrek (1st gen.) |- |R |Brat 1981 (1st gen.) |- |R |'08-'14 Impreza WRX STi 5-door hatchback [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |R |'11-'14 Impreza WRX 5-door hatchback [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |R |'10-'14 Outback wagon |- |S |'15-'19 Outback Wagon |- |T |Brat 1982-1985 (2nd gen.) |- |T |'03-'06 Baja |- |T |'17-'23 Impreza 5-door hatchback (5th gen.), '18-'23 Crosstrek (2nd gen.) |- |T |'20-'25 Outback Wagon |- |U |Brat 1986-1987 (2nd gen.) |- |U |'24- Impreza 5-door hatchback (6th gen.), '24- Crosstrek (3rd gen.) |- |V |'11-'14 Impreza WRX, WRX STi sedan [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |W |'81-'84 DL/GL/GLF 2-door hardtop coupe (2nd gen.) |- |W |'20-'25 Legacy sedan (7th gen.) |- |X |'85-'91 XT/XT6 coupe |- |X |'92-'97 SVX coupe |- |X |'06-'07 B9 Tribeca, '08-'14 Tribeca |} </div> ===Engine type=== The '''engine type''' is specified in the '''<u>sixth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" |+Position 6 !VIN code !Engine !Application |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FA20D flat-4 (Toyota 4U-GSE).<br> Toyota D-4S Direct/Port injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru BRZ '13-'20, Toyota Scion FR-S '13-'16, Toyota 86 '17-'20 |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20B flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza '12-'16 (except WRX models), XV Crosstrek '13-'15,<br> Crosstrek '16-'17 |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza '17-'23, Impreza Base, Sport '24-'25,<br> Crosstrek Base '18-'25, Premium '18-'24, Limited '18-'20 |- |A |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Forester '19-'24, Forester Wilderness '22-'25, Legacy '20-'25,<br> Outback '20-'25 |- |A |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA24F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Ascent '19-'25, WRX '22-'25 |- |B |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20X flat-4 + 1 electric motor.<br> Nickel-metal hydride Battery Pack. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru XV Crosstrek Hybrid '14-'15, Crosstrek Hybrid '16 |- |B |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve FA24D flat-4. Toyota D-4S Direct/Port injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru BRZ '22-'25, Toyota GR86 '22-'25 |- |D |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20V flat-4 + 2 electric motors. Lithium-ion battery pack. Direct injection. Dual VVT. Atkinson cycle. |Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid ([[w:PHEV|PHEV]]) '19-'23 |- |D |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Forester '25 (except Wilderness), '26 |- |G |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA24F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Legacy XT '20-'25, Legacy Sport '23-'25,<br> Outback XT '20-'25, Outback Wilderness '22-'25 |- |H |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza RS '24-'25,<br> Crosstrek Sport '21-'25, Limited '21-'25, Wilderness '24-'25, Premium '25- |- |S |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4 + 2 electric motors. Lithium-ion battery pack. Direct injection. Dual VVT. Atkinson cycle. |Subaru Forester Hybrid '25-'26 |- |1 |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA20F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX '15-'21 |- |2 |1.6L OHV, 8-valve EA71 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 2WD. |Subaru Standard Hatchback 2wd '87, GL Hatchback 2wd w/man. trans. '87 |- |2 |1.8L SOHC, 16-valve EJ18 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza (all models) '93-'94, Impreza Base, L 1.8, Outback Sport 1.8 '95 |- |2 |1.8L SOHC, 16-valve EJ18 flat-4. MPI. AWD. |Subaru Impreza Brighton '96-'97 |- |2 |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ205 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza WRX '02-'05, Saab 9-2X Aero '05 |- |2 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX STi '15-'21, STi S209 '19 |- |3 |3.3L DOHC, 24-valve EG33 flat-6. MPI. |Subaru SVX '92-'95 |- |3 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. FWD. |Subaru Legacy L '96 |- |3 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX STi Type RA '18 |- |4 |1.8L OHV, 8-valve EA81 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 2WD. |Subaru GL Hatchback 2wd w/auto. trans. '87, GL Hatchback 2wd '88-'89 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. TBI. 2WD. |Subaru DL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 2wd '88-'89, GL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 2wd '88-'89, GL-10 sedan, wagon 2wd '88, Loyale 2wd '90-'93 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. MPI. 2WD. |Subaru XT coupe 2wd '85-'91 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 2WD. |Subaru GL Turbo 2wd 3-d coupe '87, GL Turbo 2wd sedan '87, GL Turbo 2wd wagon '87, GL-10 Turbo 2wd sedan '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 2wd wagon '87-'89, Loyale Turbo 2wd '90, XT coupe Turbo 2wd '85-'87 |- |4 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. AWD. |Subaru Impreza L '96-'01, LX '96, Impreza Outback Sport '96-'01,<br> Legacy Brighton, L '96-'99, LS '96, Outback '96 |- |5 |1.8L OHV, 8-valve EA81 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 4WD. |Subaru GL Hatchback 4wd '87-'89, Brat GL 4wd '87 |- |5 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. TBI. 4WD. |Subaru DL wagon 4wd '88-'89, GL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 4wd '88-'89, Loyale 4wd '90-'94 |- |5 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 4WD. |Subaru RX Turbo 4wd 3-d coupe '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd sedan '88-'89, RX Turbo 4wd sedan '87-'88, GL Turbo 4wd wagon '88-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon '88-'89, Loyale Turbo 4wd '90 |- |6 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza L 2.2 '95, LX '95, Impreza Outback Sport 2.2 '95, Legacy '90-'95 |- |6 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve turbo EJ22T flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Legacy Sport Sedan '91-'94, [LE] Touring Wagon '92-'94 |- |6 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve EJ25D flat-4 (Phase I). MPI. |Subaru Impreza 2.5RS '98, Forester '98, Legacy 2.5GT '96-'99, LSi '96-'97,<br> SUS '97-'99, Outback '96-'99 |- |6 |2.5L SOHC, 16-valve EJ253 flat-4 (Phase II). MPI. |Subaru Impreza 2.5RS '99-'01, Impreza (except WRX) '02-'05,<br> Impreza Outback Sport '02-'05, Forester '99-'05, Legacy '00-'05,<br> Outback '00-'05, Baja Base '03, Sport '03-'06, Saab 9-2X Linear '05 |- |6 |2.5L SOHC, 16-valve EJ253 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVL. |Subaru Impreza (except WRX) '06-'11, Subaru Impreza Outback Sport '06-'11, Forester '06-'10, Legacy '06-'09, Outback '06-'09, Saab 9-2X 2.5i '06 |- |6 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ255 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVT. |Subaru Forester XT '04-'10, Legacy GT '05-'09, Outback XT '05-'09,<br> Baja Turbo '04-'06 |- |7 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. 2-bbl. carb. 2wd. |Subaru Justy '87-'89, Justy DL '90-'92 |- |7 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. MPI. 2wd. |Subaru Justy GL '90-'94, Justy DL '93-'94 |- |7 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 4WD w/ air suspension. |Subaru GL-10 Turbo 4wd sedan '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon w/auto. trans. '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon w/man. trans. '88, XT coupe Turbo 4wd '85-'89 |- |7 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ255 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVT. |Subaru Impreza WRX '06-'14, Impreza WRX STi '04-'07, Impreza 2.5GT '09-'10,<br> Saab 9-2X Aero '06 |- |8 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. 2-bbl. carb. 4wd. |Subaru Justy GL 4wd '88-'89 |- |8 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. MPI. 4wd. |Subaru Justy GL 4wd '90-'94 |- |8 |2.7L SOHC, 12-valve ER27 flat-6. MPI. FWD. |Subaru XT6 '88-'91 |- |8 |3.3L DOHC, 24-valve EG33 flat-6. MPI. AWD. |Subaru SVX '96-'97 |- |8 |3.0L DOHC, 24-valve EZ30D flat-6. MPI. Intake VVT & VVL. |Subaru Legacy 3.0R '08-'09, Outback H6-3.0 '01-'04, Outback 3.0R '05-'09,<br> B9 Tribeca '06-'07 |- |8 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza WRX STi '08-'14 |- |9 |2.7L SOHC, 12-valve ER27 flat-6. MPI. AWD. |Subaru XT6 '88-'91 |- |9 |3.6L DOHC, 24-valve EZ36D flat-6. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Tribeca '08-'14 |} <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |1300cc - 1989; 1800cc FWD 1996 |- |2 |1600cc - 1989; 1800cc Impreza 1993-95; 1800cc Impreza AWD 1996-97; 2000cc AWD Turbo 2002-05 |- |3 |1600 4WD - 1989; 3300cc FWD/AWD 1992-1995; 2200cc FWD 1996-99 |- |4 |1800cc 1985-94; 2200cc AWD 1996-2000; FB 1600cc DIT AWD 2015+ |- |5 |1800cc 4WD w/out air susp - 1988, 1989; 1800cc 4WD 1990-94 2000cc 2004- |- |6 |2200cc 1990; 2200cc FWD/AWD 1991-95; 2200cc AWD (Ghost); 2500cc AWD 1996-2000; 2500cc AWD |- |7 |1800cc 4WD w/ air susp; 2200cc FWD 1989-94; 2500cc AWD Turbo |- |8 |2500cc FWD; 1200cc 4WD 1991; 1200cc AWD 1992-94; 3000cc 2001-2009; 3300cc FWD/AWD 1996-97 |- |9 |2500cc 4WD w/ & w/out air susp 1989-91; 3600cc 2008-up |- |A |2400cc AWD |- |D |2000cc DOHC Turbo Diesel |} </div> ===Model=== The '''model''' is identified in the '''<u>seventh</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |Standard model |- |1 |Base |- |2 |DL |- |2 |Brighton |- |3 |GL |- |3 |L |- |4 |GLF '81-'82, GL-10 '85-'89 |- |4 |2.5GT with cloth |- |5 |GL '8-'8, GL-10 Turbo '86-'89 |- |5 |LS/S |- |6 |LSi, Outback base |- |7 |GT/RS, Outback AWP |- |8 |Outback Limited Wagon/SUS |- |9 |Postal Vehicle/WRX/Outback VDC |- |0 |Outback L.L. Bean |- |K |STI WRX/Legacy/Outback |- |L |Outback |- |P |Ascent |- |V |XV Crosstrek |} </div> ===Restraint Type (Passenger) or Weight Class (MPV)=== The '''restraint type''', for passenger vehicles, or the weight class (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating), for MPVs, is specified in the '''<u>eighth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |No Passive Restraint |- |2 |Automatic Seat Belt w/o Air Bag |- |3 |Automatic Seat Belt w/ Air Bag |- |4 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Air Bag 1993-94; Automatic Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags |- |5 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags |- |6 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags and Side Air Bags |- |A |Class A (GVWR 3000 lbs. or less) |- |B |Class B (GVWR 3001-4000 lbs.) |- |C |Class C (GVWR 4001-5000 lbs.) |- |D |Class D (GVWR 5001-6000 lbs.) |} </div> The '''Check Digit''' is identified in the '''<u>ninth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN The '''Model Year''' is identified in the '''<u>tenth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN Letters began being reused in 2010. <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |2001 |- |2 |2002 |- |3 |2003 |- |4 |2004 |- |5 |2005 |- |6 |2006 |- |7 |2007 |- |8 |2008 |- |9 |2009 |- |A |1980, 2010 |- |B |1981, 2011 |- |C |1982, 2012 |- |D |1983, 2013 |- |E |1984, 2014 |- |F |1985, 2015 |- |G |1986, 2016 |- |H |1987, 2017 |- |I |not used |- |J |1988, 2018 |- |K |1989, 2019 |- |L |1990, 2020 |- |M |1991, 2021 |- |N |1992, 2022 |- |P |1993, 2023 |- |R |1994, 2024 |- |S |1995, 2025 |- |T |1996, 2026 |- |V |1997 |- |W |1998 |- |X |1999 |- |Y |2000 |} </div> ===Plants and transmission type=== The '''assembly plant''' and '''transmission type''' is specified in the '''<u>eleventh</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Plant !Transmission |- |1 |SIA |FWD 5MT |- |3 |SIA |Full-time AWD 6MT/AT |- |4 |SIA |Full-time AWD 5AT |- |5 |SIA |Sport Shift Automatic |- |6 |SIA |Full-time AWD 5MT |- |7 |SIA |Full-time AWD 4EAT |- |8 |SIA |Full-time AWD 4EAT (Postal RHD) |- |9 |SIA |FWD 4EAT |- |A |FHI |FWD 4MT |- |B |FHI |FWD 5MT |- |C |FHI |FWD 3AT/ECVT |- |D |FHI |On-demand AWD 5MT |- |E |FHI | 4spd 4wd Dual Range MT 81-84, 85-89 Hatchback, 85-89 Brat. 5spd 4wd dual range MT 85-89 |- |F |FHI |On-demand AWD 3AT |- |G |FHI |Full-time AWD 6MT. Full-time AWD CVT. |- |H |FHI |Full-time AWD 4EAT |- |K |FHI |FWD 4EAT |- |L |FHI |Full-time AWD 6MT |- |P |FHI |Full-time AWD 4EAT (Postal RHD) |} </div> ** SIA = Subaru-Isuzu Automotive (now known as Subaru of Indiana Automotive), Lafayette, Indiana ** FHI = Fuji Heavy Industries, Gunma, Japan The '''Vehicle Production Sequence''' number is specified in the '''<u>twelfth - seventeenth</u>''' characters of the Subaru VIN ** 100000 and after - Legacy Sedan SUS (Jan 98 - May 98) ** 210001 and after - Legacy Sedan ** 310001 and after - Legacy Station Wagon ** 410001 and after - Impreza Coupe; Ascent ** 510001 and after - Impreza Sedan ** 610001 and after - Legacy Station Wagon Outback ** 710001 and after - Forester Wagon ** 810001 and after - Impreza Sports Wagon ==External links== Online [http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Subaru Subaru VIN decoder] Online [www.auto-vin-decoder.com Universal VIN decoder] {{BookCat}} 6bsweiwjwgkt6449efq0kk61v3qncu8 4520898 4520892 2025-07-02T00:08:34Z JustTheFacts33 3434282 /* Model */ 4520898 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Warning}}{{clear}} *NOTE: This information appears to not conform with current information *Note: This information is incorrect for 4th Generation JDM Legacys. Subaru uses a '''17-character VIN''' format and code for vehicles sold in the United States. These rules also largely apply to the Saab 9-2x, a badge-engineered Subaru Impreza WRX wagon. ==Subaru VIN code== The following sample is the sequence and meaning of each character in the Subaru VIN: <div class=center> <table class="wikitable" border="1"><caption></caption><tr> <th>Position</th> <th>Sample</th> <th>Description</th> </tr><tr> <td>1</td> <td>J</td> <td rowspan=3>[[#Subaru WMIs|World Manufacturer Identifier]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>2</td> <td>F</td> </tr><tr> <td>3</td> <td>1</td> </tr><tr> <td>4</td> <td>C</td> <td>[[#Line types|Line type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>5</td> <td>X</td> <td>[[#Body styles|Body style]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>6</td> <td>8</td> <td>[[#Engine types|Engine type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>7</td> <td>6</td> <td>[[#Models|Model identifier]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>8</td> <td>5</td> <td>[[#Restraint types|Restraint type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>9</td> <td>9</td> <td>[[../../Check digit/]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>10</td> <td>T</td> <td>[[../../Model year/]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>11</td> <td>H</td> <td>[[#Plants and transmission types|Plant of manufacture & transmission type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>12</td> <td>1</td> <td rowspan=6>Sequential production number </tr><tr> <td>13</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr> <td>14</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr> <td>15</td> <td>2</td> </tr><tr> <td>16</td> <td>1</td> </tr><tr> <td>17</td> <td>6</td> </table> </div> <div class="center"><small>The above serial number describes the following vehicle built in Japan by Fuji Heavy Industries:</small></div> <div class="center"><small>1996 Subaru Alcyone SVX, 3.3L EG33 engine, AWD 4EAT transmission, manual seat belts<br />with driver / passenger airbags. The 216th vehicle produced during the 1996 model year.</small></div> ===Subaru WMIs=== The '''WMI''' is specified in the '''<u>first three</u>''' characters of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !WMI !Country !Description !Vehicle Types |- |JF1 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |Passenger Vehicle |- |JF2 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |MPV |- |JF3 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |truck |- |MMR |Thailand |Tan Chong Subaru Automotive (Thailand) Ltd. | |- |PLP |Malaysia |Tan Chong Motor Assemblies | |- |4S3 |USA |Subaru-Isuzu Automotive /<br>Subaru of Indiana Automotive |Passenger Vehicle |- |4S4 |USA |Subaru-Isuzu Automotive /<br>Subaru of Indiana Automotive |MPV |} MPV means Multi-Purpose Vehicle (station wagon, SUV, van or truck) </div> ===Line type=== The '''line type''' is specified in the '''<u>fourth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |A |STD/DL/GL/GLF/GL-10/RX/Loyale/Brat |- |A |XT/XT6 |- |B |Legacy/Outback/Baja |- |C |SVX |- |G |Subaru Impreza '93-/Impreza WRX '02-'14/XV Crosstrek '13-'15/Crosstrek '16-/Saab 9-2X '05-'06 |- |K |Justy |- |S |Forester |- |V |WRX '15- |- |V |Levorg (2nd gen. known as WRX Sportswagon in Australia & WRX wagon in S.E. Asia) (Not sold in North America) |- |W |B9 Tribeca/Tribeca |- |W |Ascent |- |Z |Subaru BRZ/Scion FR-S/Toyota 86/Toyota GR86 |} </div> ===Body style=== The '''body style''' is specified in the '''<u>fifth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |A |'87-'94 Justy 3-Door |- |A |'15-'21 WRX, WRX STi sedan (1st gen.) |- |B |'81-'84 DL/GL 4-door sedan (2nd gen.) |- |B |'22- WRX sedan (2nd gen.) |- |C |'85-'93 DL/GL/GL-10/RX/Turbo/Loyale sedan (3rd gen.) |- |C |'90-'94 Legacy sedan (1st gen.) |- |C |'93-'01 Impreza sedan (1st gen.) |- |C |'13-'20 BRZ coupe (1st gen.) |- |D |'90-'94 Justy 5-Door |- |D |'95-'99 Legacy sedan, '97-'99 Legacy SUS (2nd gen. Legacy) |- |D |'02-'07 Impreza sedan, Impreza WRX sedan (2nd gen.) |- |D |'22- BRZ coupe (2nd gen.) |- |E |'00-'04 Legacy sedan, Outback sedan (3rd gen. Legacy) |- |E |'08-'11 Impreza sedan, '08-'10 Impreza WRX sedan (3rd gen.) |- |F |'81-'89 STD/DL/GL 3-door hatchback (2nd gen.) |- |F |'93-'01 Impreza wagon, '95-'01 Impreza Outback Sport (1st gen.) |- |F |'94 Legacy GT wagon [raised-roof] (1st gen.) |- |F |Wagon: Forester (1st gen.) '98-'02 |- |G |'86-'90 DL/GL/RX/Turbo/Loyale 3-door coupe (3rd gen.) |- |G |'96-'99 Legacy Outback wagon [raised-roof] (2nd gen. Legacy) |- |G |'02-'07 Impreza wagon, Impreza WRX wagon, Impreza Outback Sport (2nd gen.), '05-'06 Saab 9-2X |- |G |Wagon: Forester (2nd gen.) '03-'08 |- |H |'00-'04 Legacy wagon, Outback wagon (3rd gen. Legacy) |- |H |'08-'11 Impreza 5-door hatchback, '08-'11 Impreza Outback Sport, '08-'10 Impreza WRX 5-door hatchback (3rd gen.) |- |H |Wagon: Forester (3rd gen.) '09-'13 |- |J |'90-'94 Legacy wagon [non-raised-roof] (1st gen.) |- |J |'12-'16 Impreza sedan (4th gen.) |- |J |Wagon: Forester (4th gen.) '14-'18 |- |K |'89-'90 GL/GL-10/Turbo/Loyale Touring wagon [raised roof] (3rd gen.) |- |K |'95-'99 Legacy wagon [non-raised-roof] (2nd gen.) |- |K |'17-'23 Impreza sedan (5th gen.) |- |K |Wagon: Forester (5th gen.) '19-'24, Forester Wilderness '22-'25 |- |L |'05-'09 Legacy sedan, '05-'07 Outback sedan (4th gen. Legacy) |- |L |Wagon: Forester (6th gen.) '25-, Forester Wilderness '26- |- |M |'81-'84 DL/GL 4-door wagon (2nd gen.) |- |M |'95-'01 Impreza coupe (1st gen.) |- |M |'10-'14 Legacy sedan (5th gen.) |- |M |'19- Ascent (1st gen.) |- |M |Levorg wagon (1st gen.) (Not sold in North America) |- |N |'85-'94 DL/GL/GL-10/Turbo/Loyale wagon (3rd gen.) |- |N |'13-'16 Scion FR-S, '17-'20 Toyota 86, '22- Toyota GR86 coupe |- |N |'15-'19 Legacy sedan (6th gen.) |- |N |Levorg wagon (WRX Sportswagon in Australia/WRX wagon in S.E. Asia) (2nd gen.) (Not sold in North America) |- |P |'05-'07 (& '08-'09 in Canada) Legacy wagon, '05-'09 Outback wagon (4th gen. Legacy) |- |P |'12-'16 Impreza 5-door hatchback (4th gen.), '13-'15 XV Crosstrek, '16-'17 Crosstrek (1st gen.) |- |R |Brat 1981 (1st gen.) |- |R |'08-'14 Impreza WRX STi 5-door hatchback [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |R |'11-'14 Impreza WRX 5-door hatchback [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |R |'10-'14 Outback wagon |- |S |'15-'19 Outback Wagon |- |T |Brat 1982-1985 (2nd gen.) |- |T |'03-'06 Baja |- |T |'17-'23 Impreza 5-door hatchback (5th gen.), '18-'23 Crosstrek (2nd gen.) |- |T |'20-'25 Outback Wagon |- |U |Brat 1986-1987 (2nd gen.) |- |U |'24- Impreza 5-door hatchback (6th gen.), '24- Crosstrek (3rd gen.) |- |V |'11-'14 Impreza WRX, WRX STi sedan [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |W |'81-'84 DL/GL/GLF 2-door hardtop coupe (2nd gen.) |- |W |'20-'25 Legacy sedan (7th gen.) |- |X |'85-'91 XT/XT6 coupe |- |X |'92-'97 SVX coupe |- |X |'06-'07 B9 Tribeca, '08-'14 Tribeca |} </div> ===Engine type=== The '''engine type''' is specified in the '''<u>sixth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" |+Position 6 !VIN code !Engine !Application |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FA20D flat-4 (Toyota 4U-GSE).<br> Toyota D-4S Direct/Port injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru BRZ '13-'20, Toyota Scion FR-S '13-'16, Toyota 86 '17-'20 |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20B flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza '12-'16 (except WRX models), XV Crosstrek '13-'15,<br> Crosstrek '16-'17 |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza '17-'23, Impreza Base, Sport '24-'25,<br> Crosstrek Base '18-'25, Premium '18-'24, Limited '18-'20 |- |A |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Forester '19-'24, Forester Wilderness '22-'25, Legacy '20-'25,<br> Outback '20-'25 |- |A |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA24F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Ascent '19-'25, WRX '22-'25 |- |B |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20X flat-4 + 1 electric motor.<br> Nickel-metal hydride Battery Pack. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru XV Crosstrek Hybrid '14-'15, Crosstrek Hybrid '16 |- |B |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve FA24D flat-4. Toyota D-4S Direct/Port injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru BRZ '22-'25, Toyota GR86 '22-'25 |- |D |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20V flat-4 + 2 electric motors. Lithium-ion battery pack. Direct injection. Dual VVT. Atkinson cycle. |Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid ([[w:PHEV|PHEV]]) '19-'23 |- |D |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Forester '25 (except Wilderness), '26 |- |G |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA24F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Legacy XT '20-'25, Legacy Sport '23-'25,<br> Outback XT '20-'25, Outback Wilderness '22-'25 |- |H |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza RS '24-'25,<br> Crosstrek Sport '21-'25, Limited '21-'25, Wilderness '24-'25, Premium '25- |- |S |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4 + 2 electric motors. Lithium-ion battery pack. Direct injection. Dual VVT. Atkinson cycle. |Subaru Forester Hybrid '25-'26 |- |1 |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA20F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX '15-'21 |- |2 |1.6L OHV, 8-valve EA71 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 2WD. |Subaru Standard Hatchback 2wd '87, GL Hatchback 2wd w/man. trans. '87 |- |2 |1.8L SOHC, 16-valve EJ18 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza (all models) '93-'94, Impreza Base, L 1.8, Outback Sport 1.8 '95 |- |2 |1.8L SOHC, 16-valve EJ18 flat-4. MPI. AWD. |Subaru Impreza Brighton '96-'97 |- |2 |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ205 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza WRX '02-'05, Saab 9-2X Aero '05 |- |2 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX STi '15-'21, STi S209 '19 |- |3 |3.3L DOHC, 24-valve EG33 flat-6. MPI. |Subaru SVX '92-'95 |- |3 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. FWD. |Subaru Legacy L '96 |- |3 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX STi Type RA '18 |- |4 |1.8L OHV, 8-valve EA81 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 2WD. |Subaru GL Hatchback 2wd w/auto. trans. '87, GL Hatchback 2wd '88-'89 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. TBI. 2WD. |Subaru DL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 2wd '88-'89, GL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 2wd '88-'89, GL-10 sedan, wagon 2wd '88, Loyale 2wd '90-'93 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. MPI. 2WD. |Subaru XT coupe 2wd '85-'91 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 2WD. |Subaru GL Turbo 2wd 3-d coupe '87, GL Turbo 2wd sedan '87, GL Turbo 2wd wagon '87, GL-10 Turbo 2wd sedan '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 2wd wagon '87-'89, Loyale Turbo 2wd '90, XT coupe Turbo 2wd '85-'87 |- |4 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. AWD. |Subaru Impreza L '96-'01, LX '96, Impreza Outback Sport '96-'01,<br> Legacy Brighton, L '96-'99, LS '96, Outback '96 |- |5 |1.8L OHV, 8-valve EA81 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 4WD. |Subaru GL Hatchback 4wd '87-'89, Brat GL 4wd '87 |- |5 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. TBI. 4WD. |Subaru DL wagon 4wd '88-'89, GL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 4wd '88-'89, Loyale 4wd '90-'94 |- |5 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 4WD. |Subaru RX Turbo 4wd 3-d coupe '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd sedan '88-'89, RX Turbo 4wd sedan '87-'88, GL Turbo 4wd wagon '88-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon '88-'89, Loyale Turbo 4wd '90 |- |6 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza L 2.2 '95, LX '95, Impreza Outback Sport 2.2 '95, Legacy '90-'95 |- |6 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve turbo EJ22T flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Legacy Sport Sedan '91-'94, [LE] Touring Wagon '92-'94 |- |6 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve EJ25D flat-4 (Phase I). MPI. |Subaru Impreza 2.5RS '98, Forester '98, Legacy 2.5GT '96-'99, LSi '96-'97,<br> SUS '97-'99, Outback '96-'99 |- |6 |2.5L SOHC, 16-valve EJ253 flat-4 (Phase II). MPI. |Subaru Impreza 2.5RS '99-'01, Impreza (except WRX) '02-'05,<br> Impreza Outback Sport '02-'05, Forester '99-'05, Legacy '00-'05,<br> Outback '00-'05, Baja Base '03, Sport '03-'06, Saab 9-2X Linear '05 |- |6 |2.5L SOHC, 16-valve EJ253 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVL. |Subaru Impreza (except WRX) '06-'11, Subaru Impreza Outback Sport '06-'11, Forester '06-'10, Legacy '06-'09, Outback '06-'09, Saab 9-2X 2.5i '06 |- |6 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ255 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVT. |Subaru Forester XT '04-'10, Legacy GT '05-'09, Outback XT '05-'09,<br> Baja Turbo '04-'06 |- |7 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. 2-bbl. carb. 2wd. |Subaru Justy '87-'89, Justy DL '90-'92 |- |7 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. MPI. 2wd. |Subaru Justy GL '90-'94, Justy DL '93-'94 |- |7 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 4WD w/ air suspension. |Subaru GL-10 Turbo 4wd sedan '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon w/auto. trans. '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon w/man. trans. '88, XT coupe Turbo 4wd '85-'89 |- |7 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ255 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVT. |Subaru Impreza WRX '06-'14, Impreza WRX STi '04-'07, Impreza 2.5GT '09-'10,<br> Saab 9-2X Aero '06 |- |8 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. 2-bbl. carb. 4wd. |Subaru Justy GL 4wd '88-'89 |- |8 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. MPI. 4wd. |Subaru Justy GL 4wd '90-'94 |- |8 |2.7L SOHC, 12-valve ER27 flat-6. MPI. FWD. |Subaru XT6 '88-'91 |- |8 |3.3L DOHC, 24-valve EG33 flat-6. MPI. AWD. |Subaru SVX '96-'97 |- |8 |3.0L DOHC, 24-valve EZ30D flat-6. MPI. Intake VVT & VVL. |Subaru Legacy 3.0R '08-'09, Outback H6-3.0 '01-'04, Outback 3.0R '05-'09,<br> B9 Tribeca '06-'07 |- |8 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza WRX STi '08-'14 |- |9 |2.7L SOHC, 12-valve ER27 flat-6. MPI. AWD. |Subaru XT6 '88-'91 |- |9 |3.6L DOHC, 24-valve EZ36D flat-6. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Tribeca '08-'14 |} <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |1300cc - 1989; 1800cc FWD 1996 |- |2 |1600cc - 1989; 1800cc Impreza 1993-95; 1800cc Impreza AWD 1996-97; 2000cc AWD Turbo 2002-05 |- |3 |1600 4WD - 1989; 3300cc FWD/AWD 1992-1995; 2200cc FWD 1996-99 |- |4 |1800cc 1985-94; 2200cc AWD 1996-2000; FB 1600cc DIT AWD 2015+ |- |5 |1800cc 4WD w/out air susp - 1988, 1989; 1800cc 4WD 1990-94 2000cc 2004- |- |6 |2200cc 1990; 2200cc FWD/AWD 1991-95; 2200cc AWD (Ghost); 2500cc AWD 1996-2000; 2500cc AWD |- |7 |1800cc 4WD w/ air susp; 2200cc FWD 1989-94; 2500cc AWD Turbo |- |8 |2500cc FWD; 1200cc 4WD 1991; 1200cc AWD 1992-94; 3000cc 2001-2009; 3300cc FWD/AWD 1996-97 |- |9 |2500cc 4WD w/ & w/out air susp 1989-91; 3600cc 2008-up |- |A |2400cc AWD |- |D |2000cc DOHC Turbo Diesel |} </div> ===Model=== The '''model''' is identified in the '''<u>seventh</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |Standard model '81-'87 |- |1 |Base |- |2 |DL '81-'89 |- |2 |Brighton |- |3 |GL '81-'89 |- |3 |L |- |4 |GLF '81-'82, GL-10 '85-'89 |- |4 |2.5GT with cloth |- |5 |GL Turbo '83-'87, GL-10 Turbo '86-'89 |- |5 |LS/S |- |6 |RX Turbo '85-'89 |- |6 |LSi, Outback base |- |7 |GT/RS, Outback AWP |- |8 |Outback Limited Wagon/SUS |- |9 |Postal Vehicle/WRX/Outback VDC |- |0 |Outback L.L. Bean |- |K |STI WRX/Legacy/Outback |- |L |Outback |- |P |Ascent |- |V |XV Crosstrek |} </div> ===Restraint Type (Passenger) or Weight Class (MPV)=== The '''restraint type''', for passenger vehicles, or the weight class (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating), for MPVs, is specified in the '''<u>eighth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |No Passive Restraint |- |2 |Automatic Seat Belt w/o Air Bag |- |3 |Automatic Seat Belt w/ Air Bag |- |4 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Air Bag 1993-94; Automatic Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags |- |5 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags |- |6 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags and Side Air Bags |- |A |Class A (GVWR 3000 lbs. or less) |- |B |Class B (GVWR 3001-4000 lbs.) |- |C |Class C (GVWR 4001-5000 lbs.) |- |D |Class D (GVWR 5001-6000 lbs.) |} </div> The '''Check Digit''' is identified in the '''<u>ninth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN The '''Model Year''' is identified in the '''<u>tenth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN Letters began being reused in 2010. <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |2001 |- |2 |2002 |- |3 |2003 |- |4 |2004 |- |5 |2005 |- |6 |2006 |- |7 |2007 |- |8 |2008 |- |9 |2009 |- |A |1980, 2010 |- |B |1981, 2011 |- |C |1982, 2012 |- |D |1983, 2013 |- |E |1984, 2014 |- |F |1985, 2015 |- |G |1986, 2016 |- |H |1987, 2017 |- |I |not used |- |J |1988, 2018 |- |K |1989, 2019 |- |L |1990, 2020 |- |M |1991, 2021 |- |N |1992, 2022 |- |P |1993, 2023 |- |R |1994, 2024 |- |S |1995, 2025 |- |T |1996, 2026 |- |V |1997 |- |W |1998 |- |X |1999 |- |Y |2000 |} </div> ===Plants and transmission type=== The '''assembly plant''' and '''transmission type''' is specified in the '''<u>eleventh</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Plant !Transmission |- |1 |SIA |FWD 5MT |- |3 |SIA |Full-time AWD 6MT/AT |- |4 |SIA |Full-time AWD 5AT |- |5 |SIA |Sport Shift Automatic |- |6 |SIA |Full-time AWD 5MT |- |7 |SIA |Full-time AWD 4EAT |- |8 |SIA |Full-time AWD 4EAT (Postal RHD) |- |9 |SIA |FWD 4EAT |- |A |FHI |FWD 4MT |- |B |FHI |FWD 5MT |- |C |FHI |FWD 3AT/ECVT |- |D |FHI |On-demand AWD 5MT |- |E |FHI | 4spd 4wd Dual Range MT 81-84, 85-89 Hatchback, 85-89 Brat. 5spd 4wd dual range MT 85-89 |- |F |FHI |On-demand AWD 3AT |- |G |FHI |Full-time AWD 6MT. Full-time AWD CVT. |- |H |FHI |Full-time AWD 4EAT |- |K |FHI |FWD 4EAT |- |L |FHI |Full-time AWD 6MT |- |P |FHI |Full-time AWD 4EAT (Postal RHD) |} </div> ** SIA = Subaru-Isuzu Automotive (now known as Subaru of Indiana Automotive), Lafayette, Indiana ** FHI = Fuji Heavy Industries, Gunma, Japan The '''Vehicle Production Sequence''' number is specified in the '''<u>twelfth - seventeenth</u>''' characters of the Subaru VIN ** 100000 and after - Legacy Sedan SUS (Jan 98 - May 98) ** 210001 and after - Legacy Sedan ** 310001 and after - Legacy Station Wagon ** 410001 and after - Impreza Coupe; Ascent ** 510001 and after - Impreza Sedan ** 610001 and after - Legacy Station Wagon Outback ** 710001 and after - Forester Wagon ** 810001 and after - Impreza Sports Wagon ==External links== Online [http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Subaru Subaru VIN decoder] Online [www.auto-vin-decoder.com Universal VIN decoder] {{BookCat}} ikpuv4cyfsv43r6rl6cvz6w5688s741 4520904 4520898 2025-07-02T03:20:05Z JustTheFacts33 3434282 /* Model */ 4520904 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Warning}}{{clear}} *NOTE: This information appears to not conform with current information *Note: This information is incorrect for 4th Generation JDM Legacys. Subaru uses a '''17-character VIN''' format and code for vehicles sold in the United States. These rules also largely apply to the Saab 9-2x, a badge-engineered Subaru Impreza WRX wagon. ==Subaru VIN code== The following sample is the sequence and meaning of each character in the Subaru VIN: <div class=center> <table class="wikitable" border="1"><caption></caption><tr> <th>Position</th> <th>Sample</th> <th>Description</th> </tr><tr> <td>1</td> <td>J</td> <td rowspan=3>[[#Subaru WMIs|World Manufacturer Identifier]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>2</td> <td>F</td> </tr><tr> <td>3</td> <td>1</td> </tr><tr> <td>4</td> <td>C</td> <td>[[#Line types|Line type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>5</td> <td>X</td> <td>[[#Body styles|Body style]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>6</td> <td>8</td> <td>[[#Engine types|Engine type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>7</td> <td>6</td> <td>[[#Models|Model identifier]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>8</td> <td>5</td> <td>[[#Restraint types|Restraint type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>9</td> <td>9</td> <td>[[../../Check digit/]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>10</td> <td>T</td> <td>[[../../Model year/]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>11</td> <td>H</td> <td>[[#Plants and transmission types|Plant of manufacture & transmission type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>12</td> <td>1</td> <td rowspan=6>Sequential production number </tr><tr> <td>13</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr> <td>14</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr> <td>15</td> <td>2</td> </tr><tr> <td>16</td> <td>1</td> </tr><tr> <td>17</td> <td>6</td> </table> </div> <div class="center"><small>The above serial number describes the following vehicle built in Japan by Fuji Heavy Industries:</small></div> <div class="center"><small>1996 Subaru Alcyone SVX, 3.3L EG33 engine, AWD 4EAT transmission, manual seat belts<br />with driver / passenger airbags. The 216th vehicle produced during the 1996 model year.</small></div> ===Subaru WMIs=== The '''WMI''' is specified in the '''<u>first three</u>''' characters of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !WMI !Country !Description !Vehicle Types |- |JF1 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |Passenger Vehicle |- |JF2 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |MPV |- |JF3 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |truck |- |MMR |Thailand |Tan Chong Subaru Automotive (Thailand) Ltd. | |- |PLP |Malaysia |Tan Chong Motor Assemblies | |- |4S3 |USA |Subaru-Isuzu Automotive /<br>Subaru of Indiana Automotive |Passenger Vehicle |- |4S4 |USA |Subaru-Isuzu Automotive /<br>Subaru of Indiana Automotive |MPV |} MPV means Multi-Purpose Vehicle (station wagon, SUV, van or truck) </div> ===Line type=== The '''line type''' is specified in the '''<u>fourth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |A |STD/DL/GL/GLF/GL-10/RX/Loyale/Brat |- |A |XT/XT6 |- |B |Legacy/Outback/Baja |- |C |SVX |- |G |Subaru Impreza '93-/Impreza WRX '02-'14/XV Crosstrek '13-'15/Crosstrek '16-/Saab 9-2X '05-'06 |- |K |Justy |- |S |Forester |- |V |WRX '15- |- |V |Levorg (2nd gen. known as WRX Sportswagon in Australia & WRX wagon in S.E. Asia) (Not sold in North America) |- |W |B9 Tribeca/Tribeca |- |W |Ascent |- |Z |Subaru BRZ/Scion FR-S/Toyota 86/Toyota GR86 |} </div> ===Body style=== The '''body style''' is specified in the '''<u>fifth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |A |'87-'94 Justy 3-Door |- |A |'15-'21 WRX, WRX STi sedan (1st gen.) |- |B |'81-'84 DL/GL 4-door sedan (2nd gen.) |- |B |'22- WRX sedan (2nd gen.) |- |C |'85-'93 DL/GL/GL-10/RX/Turbo/Loyale sedan (3rd gen.) |- |C |'90-'94 Legacy sedan (1st gen.) |- |C |'93-'01 Impreza sedan (1st gen.) |- |C |'13-'20 BRZ coupe (1st gen.) |- |D |'90-'94 Justy 5-Door |- |D |'95-'99 Legacy sedan, '97-'99 Legacy SUS (2nd gen. Legacy) |- |D |'02-'07 Impreza sedan, Impreza WRX sedan (2nd gen.) |- |D |'22- BRZ coupe (2nd gen.) |- |E |'00-'04 Legacy sedan, Outback sedan (3rd gen. Legacy) |- |E |'08-'11 Impreza sedan, '08-'10 Impreza WRX sedan (3rd gen.) |- |F |'81-'89 STD/DL/GL 3-door hatchback (2nd gen.) |- |F |'93-'01 Impreza wagon, '95-'01 Impreza Outback Sport (1st gen.) |- |F |'94 Legacy GT wagon [raised-roof] (1st gen.) |- |F |Wagon: Forester (1st gen.) '98-'02 |- |G |'86-'90 DL/GL/RX/Turbo/Loyale 3-door coupe (3rd gen.) |- |G |'96-'99 Legacy Outback wagon [raised-roof] (2nd gen. Legacy) |- |G |'02-'07 Impreza wagon, Impreza WRX wagon, Impreza Outback Sport (2nd gen.), '05-'06 Saab 9-2X |- |G |Wagon: Forester (2nd gen.) '03-'08 |- |H |'00-'04 Legacy wagon, Outback wagon (3rd gen. Legacy) |- |H |'08-'11 Impreza 5-door hatchback, '08-'11 Impreza Outback Sport, '08-'10 Impreza WRX 5-door hatchback (3rd gen.) |- |H |Wagon: Forester (3rd gen.) '09-'13 |- |J |'90-'94 Legacy wagon [non-raised-roof] (1st gen.) |- |J |'12-'16 Impreza sedan (4th gen.) |- |J |Wagon: Forester (4th gen.) '14-'18 |- |K |'89-'90 GL/GL-10/Turbo/Loyale Touring wagon [raised roof] (3rd gen.) |- |K |'95-'99 Legacy wagon [non-raised-roof] (2nd gen.) |- |K |'17-'23 Impreza sedan (5th gen.) |- |K |Wagon: Forester (5th gen.) '19-'24, Forester Wilderness '22-'25 |- |L |'05-'09 Legacy sedan, '05-'07 Outback sedan (4th gen. Legacy) |- |L |Wagon: Forester (6th gen.) '25-, Forester Wilderness '26- |- |M |'81-'84 DL/GL 4-door wagon (2nd gen.) |- |M |'95-'01 Impreza coupe (1st gen.) |- |M |'10-'14 Legacy sedan (5th gen.) |- |M |'19- Ascent (1st gen.) |- |M |Levorg wagon (1st gen.) (Not sold in North America) |- |N |'85-'94 DL/GL/GL-10/Turbo/Loyale wagon (3rd gen.) |- |N |'13-'16 Scion FR-S, '17-'20 Toyota 86, '22- Toyota GR86 coupe |- |N |'15-'19 Legacy sedan (6th gen.) |- |N |Levorg wagon (WRX Sportswagon in Australia/WRX wagon in S.E. Asia) (2nd gen.) (Not sold in North America) |- |P |'05-'07 (& '08-'09 in Canada) Legacy wagon, '05-'09 Outback wagon (4th gen. Legacy) |- |P |'12-'16 Impreza 5-door hatchback (4th gen.), '13-'15 XV Crosstrek, '16-'17 Crosstrek (1st gen.) |- |R |Brat 1981 (1st gen.) |- |R |'08-'14 Impreza WRX STi 5-door hatchback [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |R |'11-'14 Impreza WRX 5-door hatchback [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |R |'10-'14 Outback wagon |- |S |'15-'19 Outback Wagon |- |T |Brat 1982-1985 (2nd gen.) |- |T |'03-'06 Baja |- |T |'17-'23 Impreza 5-door hatchback (5th gen.), '18-'23 Crosstrek (2nd gen.) |- |T |'20-'25 Outback Wagon |- |U |Brat 1986-1987 (2nd gen.) |- |U |'24- Impreza 5-door hatchback (6th gen.), '24- Crosstrek (3rd gen.) |- |V |'11-'14 Impreza WRX, WRX STi sedan [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |W |'81-'84 DL/GL/GLF 2-door hardtop coupe (2nd gen.) |- |W |'20-'25 Legacy sedan (7th gen.) |- |X |'85-'91 XT/XT6 coupe |- |X |'92-'97 SVX coupe |- |X |'06-'07 B9 Tribeca, '08-'14 Tribeca |} </div> ===Engine type=== The '''engine type''' is specified in the '''<u>sixth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" |+Position 6 !VIN code !Engine !Application |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FA20D flat-4 (Toyota 4U-GSE).<br> Toyota D-4S Direct/Port injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru BRZ '13-'20, Toyota Scion FR-S '13-'16, Toyota 86 '17-'20 |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20B flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza '12-'16 (except WRX models), XV Crosstrek '13-'15,<br> Crosstrek '16-'17 |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza '17-'23, Impreza Base, Sport '24-'25,<br> Crosstrek Base '18-'25, Premium '18-'24, Limited '18-'20 |- |A |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Forester '19-'24, Forester Wilderness '22-'25, Legacy '20-'25,<br> Outback '20-'25 |- |A |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA24F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Ascent '19-'25, WRX '22-'25 |- |B |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20X flat-4 + 1 electric motor.<br> Nickel-metal hydride Battery Pack. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru XV Crosstrek Hybrid '14-'15, Crosstrek Hybrid '16 |- |B |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve FA24D flat-4. Toyota D-4S Direct/Port injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru BRZ '22-'25, Toyota GR86 '22-'25 |- |D |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20V flat-4 + 2 electric motors. Lithium-ion battery pack. Direct injection. Dual VVT. Atkinson cycle. |Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid ([[w:PHEV|PHEV]]) '19-'23 |- |D |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Forester '25 (except Wilderness), '26 |- |G |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA24F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Legacy XT '20-'25, Legacy Sport '23-'25,<br> Outback XT '20-'25, Outback Wilderness '22-'25 |- |H |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza RS '24-'25,<br> Crosstrek Sport '21-'25, Limited '21-'25, Wilderness '24-'25, Premium '25- |- |S |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4 + 2 electric motors. Lithium-ion battery pack. Direct injection. Dual VVT. Atkinson cycle. |Subaru Forester Hybrid '25-'26 |- |1 |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA20F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX '15-'21 |- |2 |1.6L OHV, 8-valve EA71 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 2WD. |Subaru Standard Hatchback 2wd '87, GL Hatchback 2wd w/man. trans. '87 |- |2 |1.8L SOHC, 16-valve EJ18 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza (all models) '93-'94, Impreza Base, L 1.8, Outback Sport 1.8 '95 |- |2 |1.8L SOHC, 16-valve EJ18 flat-4. MPI. AWD. |Subaru Impreza Brighton '96-'97 |- |2 |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ205 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza WRX '02-'05, Saab 9-2X Aero '05 |- |2 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX STi '15-'21, STi S209 '19 |- |3 |3.3L DOHC, 24-valve EG33 flat-6. MPI. |Subaru SVX '92-'95 |- |3 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. FWD. |Subaru Legacy L '96 |- |3 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX STi Type RA '18 |- |4 |1.8L OHV, 8-valve EA81 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 2WD. |Subaru GL Hatchback 2wd w/auto. trans. '87, GL Hatchback 2wd '88-'89 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. TBI. 2WD. |Subaru DL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 2wd '88-'89, GL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 2wd '88-'89, GL-10 sedan, wagon 2wd '88, Loyale 2wd '90-'93 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. MPI. 2WD. |Subaru XT coupe 2wd '85-'91 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 2WD. |Subaru GL Turbo 2wd 3-d coupe '87, GL Turbo 2wd sedan '87, GL Turbo 2wd wagon '87, GL-10 Turbo 2wd sedan '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 2wd wagon '87-'89, Loyale Turbo 2wd '90, XT coupe Turbo 2wd '85-'87 |- |4 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. AWD. |Subaru Impreza L '96-'01, LX '96, Impreza Outback Sport '96-'01,<br> Legacy Brighton, L '96-'99, LS '96, Outback '96 |- |5 |1.8L OHV, 8-valve EA81 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 4WD. |Subaru GL Hatchback 4wd '87-'89, Brat GL 4wd '87 |- |5 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. TBI. 4WD. |Subaru DL wagon 4wd '88-'89, GL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 4wd '88-'89, Loyale 4wd '90-'94 |- |5 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 4WD. |Subaru RX Turbo 4wd 3-d coupe '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd sedan '88-'89, RX Turbo 4wd sedan '87-'88, GL Turbo 4wd wagon '88-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon '88-'89, Loyale Turbo 4wd '90 |- |6 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza L 2.2 '95, LX '95, Impreza Outback Sport 2.2 '95, Legacy '90-'95 |- |6 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve turbo EJ22T flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Legacy Sport Sedan '91-'94, [LE] Touring Wagon '92-'94 |- |6 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve EJ25D flat-4 (Phase I). MPI. |Subaru Impreza 2.5RS '98, Forester '98, Legacy 2.5GT '96-'99, LSi '96-'97,<br> SUS '97-'99, Outback '96-'99 |- |6 |2.5L SOHC, 16-valve EJ253 flat-4 (Phase II). MPI. |Subaru Impreza 2.5RS '99-'01, Impreza (except WRX) '02-'05,<br> Impreza Outback Sport '02-'05, Forester '99-'05, Legacy '00-'05,<br> Outback '00-'05, Baja Base '03, Sport '03-'06, Saab 9-2X Linear '05 |- |6 |2.5L SOHC, 16-valve EJ253 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVL. |Subaru Impreza (except WRX) '06-'11, Subaru Impreza Outback Sport '06-'11, Forester '06-'10, Legacy '06-'09, Outback '06-'09, Saab 9-2X 2.5i '06 |- |6 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ255 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVT. |Subaru Forester XT '04-'10, Legacy GT '05-'09, Outback XT '05-'09,<br> Baja Turbo '04-'06 |- |7 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. 2-bbl. carb. 2wd. |Subaru Justy '87-'89, Justy DL '90-'92 |- |7 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. MPI. 2wd. |Subaru Justy GL '90-'94, Justy DL '93-'94 |- |7 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 4WD w/ air suspension. |Subaru GL-10 Turbo 4wd sedan '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon w/auto. trans. '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon w/man. trans. '88, XT coupe Turbo 4wd '85-'89 |- |7 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ255 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVT. |Subaru Impreza WRX '06-'14, Impreza WRX STi '04-'07, Impreza 2.5GT '09-'10,<br> Saab 9-2X Aero '06 |- |8 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. 2-bbl. carb. 4wd. |Subaru Justy GL 4wd '88-'89 |- |8 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. MPI. 4wd. |Subaru Justy GL 4wd '90-'94 |- |8 |2.7L SOHC, 12-valve ER27 flat-6. MPI. FWD. |Subaru XT6 '88-'91 |- |8 |3.3L DOHC, 24-valve EG33 flat-6. MPI. AWD. |Subaru SVX '96-'97 |- |8 |3.0L DOHC, 24-valve EZ30D flat-6. MPI. Intake VVT & VVL. |Subaru Legacy 3.0R '08-'09, Outback H6-3.0 '01-'04, Outback 3.0R '05-'09,<br> B9 Tribeca '06-'07 |- |8 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza WRX STi '08-'14 |- |9 |2.7L SOHC, 12-valve ER27 flat-6. MPI. AWD. |Subaru XT6 '88-'91 |- |9 |3.6L DOHC, 24-valve EZ36D flat-6. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Tribeca '08-'14 |} <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |1300cc - 1989; 1800cc FWD 1996 |- |2 |1600cc - 1989; 1800cc Impreza 1993-95; 1800cc Impreza AWD 1996-97; 2000cc AWD Turbo 2002-05 |- |3 |1600 4WD - 1989; 3300cc FWD/AWD 1992-1995; 2200cc FWD 1996-99 |- |4 |1800cc 1985-94; 2200cc AWD 1996-2000; FB 1600cc DIT AWD 2015+ |- |5 |1800cc 4WD w/out air susp - 1988, 1989; 1800cc 4WD 1990-94 2000cc 2004- |- |6 |2200cc 1990; 2200cc FWD/AWD 1991-95; 2200cc AWD (Ghost); 2500cc AWD 1996-2000; 2500cc AWD |- |7 |1800cc 4WD w/ air susp; 2200cc FWD 1989-94; 2500cc AWD Turbo |- |8 |2500cc FWD; 1200cc 4WD 1991; 1200cc AWD 1992-94; 3000cc 2001-2009; 3300cc FWD/AWD 1996-97 |- |9 |2500cc 4WD w/ & w/out air susp 1989-91; 3600cc 2008-up |- |A |2400cc AWD |- |D |2000cc DOHC Turbo Diesel |} </div> ===Model=== The '''model''' is identified in the '''<u>seventh</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |Standard model '81-'87 |- |1 |Base |- |2 |DL '81-'89 |- |2 |Brighton |- |3 |GL '81-'89 |- |3 |L |- |4 |GLF '81-'82, GL-10 '85-'89 |- |4 |2.5GT with cloth |- |5 |GL Turbo (except '87 4wd wagon) '83-'87, GL-10 Turbo '86-'89 |- |5 |LS/S |- |6 |RX Turbo '85-'89 |- |6 |LSi, Outback base |- |7 |GL Turbo 4wd wagon '87-'89 |- |7 |GT/RS, Outback AWP |- |8 |Outback Limited Wagon/SUS |- |9 |Postal Vehicle/WRX/Outback VDC |- |0 |Outback L.L. Bean |- |K |STI WRX/Legacy/Outback |- |L |Outback |- |P |Ascent |- |V |XV Crosstrek |} </div> ===Restraint Type (Passenger) or Weight Class (MPV)=== The '''restraint type''', for passenger vehicles, or the weight class (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating), for MPVs, is specified in the '''<u>eighth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |No Passive Restraint |- |2 |Automatic Seat Belt w/o Air Bag |- |3 |Automatic Seat Belt w/ Air Bag |- |4 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Air Bag 1993-94; Automatic Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags |- |5 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags |- |6 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags and Side Air Bags |- |A |Class A (GVWR 3000 lbs. or less) |- |B |Class B (GVWR 3001-4000 lbs.) |- |C |Class C (GVWR 4001-5000 lbs.) |- |D |Class D (GVWR 5001-6000 lbs.) |} </div> The '''Check Digit''' is identified in the '''<u>ninth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN The '''Model Year''' is identified in the '''<u>tenth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN Letters began being reused in 2010. <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |2001 |- |2 |2002 |- |3 |2003 |- |4 |2004 |- |5 |2005 |- |6 |2006 |- |7 |2007 |- |8 |2008 |- |9 |2009 |- |A |1980, 2010 |- |B |1981, 2011 |- |C |1982, 2012 |- |D |1983, 2013 |- |E |1984, 2014 |- |F |1985, 2015 |- |G |1986, 2016 |- |H |1987, 2017 |- |I |not used |- |J |1988, 2018 |- |K |1989, 2019 |- |L |1990, 2020 |- |M |1991, 2021 |- |N |1992, 2022 |- |P |1993, 2023 |- |R |1994, 2024 |- |S |1995, 2025 |- |T |1996, 2026 |- |V |1997 |- |W |1998 |- |X |1999 |- |Y |2000 |} </div> ===Plants and transmission type=== The '''assembly plant''' and '''transmission type''' is specified in the '''<u>eleventh</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Plant !Transmission |- |1 |SIA |FWD 5MT |- |3 |SIA |Full-time AWD 6MT/AT |- |4 |SIA |Full-time AWD 5AT |- |5 |SIA |Sport Shift Automatic |- |6 |SIA |Full-time AWD 5MT |- |7 |SIA |Full-time AWD 4EAT |- |8 |SIA |Full-time AWD 4EAT (Postal RHD) |- |9 |SIA |FWD 4EAT |- |A |FHI |FWD 4MT |- |B |FHI |FWD 5MT |- |C |FHI |FWD 3AT/ECVT |- |D |FHI |On-demand AWD 5MT |- |E |FHI | 4spd 4wd Dual Range MT 81-84, 85-89 Hatchback, 85-89 Brat. 5spd 4wd dual range MT 85-89 |- |F |FHI |On-demand AWD 3AT |- |G |FHI |Full-time AWD 6MT. Full-time AWD CVT. |- |H |FHI |Full-time AWD 4EAT |- |K |FHI |FWD 4EAT |- |L |FHI |Full-time AWD 6MT |- |P |FHI |Full-time AWD 4EAT (Postal RHD) |} </div> ** SIA = Subaru-Isuzu Automotive (now known as Subaru of Indiana Automotive), Lafayette, Indiana ** FHI = Fuji Heavy Industries, Gunma, Japan The '''Vehicle Production Sequence''' number is specified in the '''<u>twelfth - seventeenth</u>''' characters of the Subaru VIN ** 100000 and after - Legacy Sedan SUS (Jan 98 - May 98) ** 210001 and after - Legacy Sedan ** 310001 and after - Legacy Station Wagon ** 410001 and after - Impreza Coupe; Ascent ** 510001 and after - Impreza Sedan ** 610001 and after - Legacy Station Wagon Outback ** 710001 and after - Forester Wagon ** 810001 and after - Impreza Sports Wagon ==External links== Online [http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Subaru Subaru VIN decoder] Online [www.auto-vin-decoder.com Universal VIN decoder] {{BookCat}} 7561hnwa09h1a6uzen46ynv1ufrmqsk 4520905 4520904 2025-07-02T03:55:15Z JustTheFacts33 3434282 /* Model */ 4520905 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Warning}}{{clear}} *NOTE: This information appears to not conform with current information *Note: This information is incorrect for 4th Generation JDM Legacys. Subaru uses a '''17-character VIN''' format and code for vehicles sold in the United States. These rules also largely apply to the Saab 9-2x, a badge-engineered Subaru Impreza WRX wagon. ==Subaru VIN code== The following sample is the sequence and meaning of each character in the Subaru VIN: <div class=center> <table class="wikitable" border="1"><caption></caption><tr> <th>Position</th> <th>Sample</th> <th>Description</th> </tr><tr> <td>1</td> <td>J</td> <td rowspan=3>[[#Subaru WMIs|World Manufacturer Identifier]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>2</td> <td>F</td> </tr><tr> <td>3</td> <td>1</td> </tr><tr> <td>4</td> <td>C</td> <td>[[#Line types|Line type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>5</td> <td>X</td> <td>[[#Body styles|Body style]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>6</td> <td>8</td> <td>[[#Engine types|Engine type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>7</td> <td>6</td> <td>[[#Models|Model identifier]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>8</td> <td>5</td> <td>[[#Restraint types|Restraint type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>9</td> <td>9</td> <td>[[../../Check digit/]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>10</td> <td>T</td> <td>[[../../Model year/]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>11</td> <td>H</td> <td>[[#Plants and transmission types|Plant of manufacture & transmission type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>12</td> <td>1</td> <td rowspan=6>Sequential production number </tr><tr> <td>13</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr> <td>14</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr> <td>15</td> <td>2</td> </tr><tr> <td>16</td> <td>1</td> </tr><tr> <td>17</td> <td>6</td> </table> </div> <div class="center"><small>The above serial number describes the following vehicle built in Japan by Fuji Heavy Industries:</small></div> <div class="center"><small>1996 Subaru Alcyone SVX, 3.3L EG33 engine, AWD 4EAT transmission, manual seat belts<br />with driver / passenger airbags. The 216th vehicle produced during the 1996 model year.</small></div> ===Subaru WMIs=== The '''WMI''' is specified in the '''<u>first three</u>''' characters of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !WMI !Country !Description !Vehicle Types |- |JF1 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |Passenger Vehicle |- |JF2 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |MPV |- |JF3 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |truck |- |MMR |Thailand |Tan Chong Subaru Automotive (Thailand) Ltd. | |- |PLP |Malaysia |Tan Chong Motor Assemblies | |- |4S3 |USA |Subaru-Isuzu Automotive /<br>Subaru of Indiana Automotive |Passenger Vehicle |- |4S4 |USA |Subaru-Isuzu Automotive /<br>Subaru of Indiana Automotive |MPV |} MPV means Multi-Purpose Vehicle (station wagon, SUV, van or truck) </div> ===Line type=== The '''line type''' is specified in the '''<u>fourth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |A |STD/DL/GL/GLF/GL-10/RX/Loyale/Brat |- |A |XT/XT6 |- |B |Legacy/Outback/Baja |- |C |SVX |- |G |Subaru Impreza '93-/Impreza WRX '02-'14/XV Crosstrek '13-'15/Crosstrek '16-/Saab 9-2X '05-'06 |- |K |Justy |- |S |Forester |- |V |WRX '15- |- |V |Levorg (2nd gen. known as WRX Sportswagon in Australia & WRX wagon in S.E. Asia) (Not sold in North America) |- |W |B9 Tribeca/Tribeca |- |W |Ascent |- |Z |Subaru BRZ/Scion FR-S/Toyota 86/Toyota GR86 |} </div> ===Body style=== The '''body style''' is specified in the '''<u>fifth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |A |'87-'94 Justy 3-Door |- |A |'15-'21 WRX, WRX STi sedan (1st gen.) |- |B |'81-'84 DL/GL 4-door sedan (2nd gen.) |- |B |'22- WRX sedan (2nd gen.) |- |C |'85-'93 DL/GL/GL-10/RX/Turbo/Loyale sedan (3rd gen.) |- |C |'90-'94 Legacy sedan (1st gen.) |- |C |'93-'01 Impreza sedan (1st gen.) |- |C |'13-'20 BRZ coupe (1st gen.) |- |D |'90-'94 Justy 5-Door |- |D |'95-'99 Legacy sedan, '97-'99 Legacy SUS (2nd gen. Legacy) |- |D |'02-'07 Impreza sedan, Impreza WRX sedan (2nd gen.) |- |D |'22- BRZ coupe (2nd gen.) |- |E |'00-'04 Legacy sedan, Outback sedan (3rd gen. Legacy) |- |E |'08-'11 Impreza sedan, '08-'10 Impreza WRX sedan (3rd gen.) |- |F |'81-'89 STD/DL/GL 3-door hatchback (2nd gen.) |- |F |'93-'01 Impreza wagon, '95-'01 Impreza Outback Sport (1st gen.) |- |F |'94 Legacy GT wagon [raised-roof] (1st gen.) |- |F |Wagon: Forester (1st gen.) '98-'02 |- |G |'86-'90 DL/GL/RX/Turbo/Loyale 3-door coupe (3rd gen.) |- |G |'96-'99 Legacy Outback wagon [raised-roof] (2nd gen. Legacy) |- |G |'02-'07 Impreza wagon, Impreza WRX wagon, Impreza Outback Sport (2nd gen.), '05-'06 Saab 9-2X |- |G |Wagon: Forester (2nd gen.) '03-'08 |- |H |'00-'04 Legacy wagon, Outback wagon (3rd gen. Legacy) |- |H |'08-'11 Impreza 5-door hatchback, '08-'11 Impreza Outback Sport, '08-'10 Impreza WRX 5-door hatchback (3rd gen.) |- |H |Wagon: Forester (3rd gen.) '09-'13 |- |J |'90-'94 Legacy wagon [non-raised-roof] (1st gen.) |- |J |'12-'16 Impreza sedan (4th gen.) |- |J |Wagon: Forester (4th gen.) '14-'18 |- |K |'89-'90 GL/GL-10/Turbo/Loyale Touring wagon [raised roof] (3rd gen.) |- |K |'95-'99 Legacy wagon [non-raised-roof] (2nd gen.) |- |K |'17-'23 Impreza sedan (5th gen.) |- |K |Wagon: Forester (5th gen.) '19-'24, Forester Wilderness '22-'25 |- |L |'05-'09 Legacy sedan, '05-'07 Outback sedan (4th gen. Legacy) |- |L |Wagon: Forester (6th gen.) '25-, Forester Wilderness '26- |- |M |'81-'84 DL/GL 4-door wagon (2nd gen.) |- |M |'95-'01 Impreza coupe (1st gen.) |- |M |'10-'14 Legacy sedan (5th gen.) |- |M |'19- Ascent (1st gen.) |- |M |Levorg wagon (1st gen.) (Not sold in North America) |- |N |'85-'94 DL/GL/GL-10/Turbo/Loyale wagon (3rd gen.) |- |N |'13-'16 Scion FR-S, '17-'20 Toyota 86, '22- Toyota GR86 coupe |- |N |'15-'19 Legacy sedan (6th gen.) |- |N |Levorg wagon (WRX Sportswagon in Australia/WRX wagon in S.E. Asia) (2nd gen.) (Not sold in North America) |- |P |'05-'07 (& '08-'09 in Canada) Legacy wagon, '05-'09 Outback wagon (4th gen. Legacy) |- |P |'12-'16 Impreza 5-door hatchback (4th gen.), '13-'15 XV Crosstrek, '16-'17 Crosstrek (1st gen.) |- |R |Brat 1981 (1st gen.) |- |R |'08-'14 Impreza WRX STi 5-door hatchback [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |R |'11-'14 Impreza WRX 5-door hatchback [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |R |'10-'14 Outback wagon |- |S |'15-'19 Outback Wagon |- |T |Brat 1982-1985 (2nd gen.) |- |T |'03-'06 Baja |- |T |'17-'23 Impreza 5-door hatchback (5th gen.), '18-'23 Crosstrek (2nd gen.) |- |T |'20-'25 Outback Wagon |- |U |Brat 1986-1987 (2nd gen.) |- |U |'24- Impreza 5-door hatchback (6th gen.), '24- Crosstrek (3rd gen.) |- |V |'11-'14 Impreza WRX, WRX STi sedan [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |W |'81-'84 DL/GL/GLF 2-door hardtop coupe (2nd gen.) |- |W |'20-'25 Legacy sedan (7th gen.) |- |X |'85-'91 XT/XT6 coupe |- |X |'92-'97 SVX coupe |- |X |'06-'07 B9 Tribeca, '08-'14 Tribeca |} </div> ===Engine type=== The '''engine type''' is specified in the '''<u>sixth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" |+Position 6 !VIN code !Engine !Application |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FA20D flat-4 (Toyota 4U-GSE).<br> Toyota D-4S Direct/Port injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru BRZ '13-'20, Toyota Scion FR-S '13-'16, Toyota 86 '17-'20 |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20B flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza '12-'16 (except WRX models), XV Crosstrek '13-'15,<br> Crosstrek '16-'17 |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza '17-'23, Impreza Base, Sport '24-'25,<br> Crosstrek Base '18-'25, Premium '18-'24, Limited '18-'20 |- |A |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Forester '19-'24, Forester Wilderness '22-'25, Legacy '20-'25,<br> Outback '20-'25 |- |A |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA24F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Ascent '19-'25, WRX '22-'25 |- |B |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20X flat-4 + 1 electric motor.<br> Nickel-metal hydride Battery Pack. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru XV Crosstrek Hybrid '14-'15, Crosstrek Hybrid '16 |- |B |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve FA24D flat-4. Toyota D-4S Direct/Port injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru BRZ '22-'25, Toyota GR86 '22-'25 |- |D |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20V flat-4 + 2 electric motors. Lithium-ion battery pack. Direct injection. Dual VVT. Atkinson cycle. |Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid ([[w:PHEV|PHEV]]) '19-'23 |- |D |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Forester '25 (except Wilderness), '26 |- |G |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA24F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Legacy XT '20-'25, Legacy Sport '23-'25,<br> Outback XT '20-'25, Outback Wilderness '22-'25 |- |H |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza RS '24-'25,<br> Crosstrek Sport '21-'25, Limited '21-'25, Wilderness '24-'25, Premium '25- |- |S |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4 + 2 electric motors. Lithium-ion battery pack. Direct injection. Dual VVT. Atkinson cycle. |Subaru Forester Hybrid '25-'26 |- |1 |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA20F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX '15-'21 |- |2 |1.6L OHV, 8-valve EA71 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 2WD. |Subaru Standard Hatchback 2wd '87, GL Hatchback 2wd w/man. trans. '87 |- |2 |1.8L SOHC, 16-valve EJ18 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza (all models) '93-'94, Impreza Base, L 1.8, Outback Sport 1.8 '95 |- |2 |1.8L SOHC, 16-valve EJ18 flat-4. MPI. AWD. |Subaru Impreza Brighton '96-'97 |- |2 |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ205 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza WRX '02-'05, Saab 9-2X Aero '05 |- |2 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX STi '15-'21, STi S209 '19 |- |3 |3.3L DOHC, 24-valve EG33 flat-6. MPI. |Subaru SVX '92-'95 |- |3 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. FWD. |Subaru Legacy L '96 |- |3 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX STi Type RA '18 |- |4 |1.8L OHV, 8-valve EA81 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 2WD. |Subaru GL Hatchback 2wd w/auto. trans. '87, GL Hatchback 2wd '88-'89 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. TBI. 2WD. |Subaru DL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 2wd '88-'89, GL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 2wd '88-'89, GL-10 sedan, wagon 2wd '88, Loyale 2wd '90-'93 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. MPI. 2WD. |Subaru XT coupe 2wd '85-'91 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 2WD. |Subaru GL Turbo 2wd 3-d coupe '87, GL Turbo 2wd sedan '87, GL Turbo 2wd wagon '87, GL-10 Turbo 2wd sedan '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 2wd wagon '87-'89, Loyale Turbo 2wd '90, XT coupe Turbo 2wd '85-'87 |- |4 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. AWD. |Subaru Impreza L '96-'01, LX '96, Impreza Outback Sport '96-'01,<br> Legacy Brighton, L '96-'99, LS '96, Outback '96 |- |5 |1.8L OHV, 8-valve EA81 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 4WD. |Subaru GL Hatchback 4wd '87-'89, Brat GL 4wd '87 |- |5 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. TBI. 4WD. |Subaru DL wagon 4wd '88-'89, GL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 4wd '88-'89, Loyale 4wd '90-'94 |- |5 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 4WD. |Subaru RX Turbo 4wd 3-d coupe '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd sedan '88-'89, RX Turbo 4wd sedan '87-'88, GL Turbo 4wd wagon '88-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon '88-'89, Loyale Turbo 4wd '90 |- |6 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza L 2.2 '95, LX '95, Impreza Outback Sport 2.2 '95, Legacy '90-'95 |- |6 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve turbo EJ22T flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Legacy Sport Sedan '91-'94, [LE] Touring Wagon '92-'94 |- |6 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve EJ25D flat-4 (Phase I). MPI. |Subaru Impreza 2.5RS '98, Forester '98, Legacy 2.5GT '96-'99, LSi '96-'97,<br> SUS '97-'99, Outback '96-'99 |- |6 |2.5L SOHC, 16-valve EJ253 flat-4 (Phase II). MPI. |Subaru Impreza 2.5RS '99-'01, Impreza (except WRX) '02-'05,<br> Impreza Outback Sport '02-'05, Forester '99-'05, Legacy '00-'05,<br> Outback '00-'05, Baja Base '03, Sport '03-'06, Saab 9-2X Linear '05 |- |6 |2.5L SOHC, 16-valve EJ253 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVL. |Subaru Impreza (except WRX) '06-'11, Subaru Impreza Outback Sport '06-'11, Forester '06-'10, Legacy '06-'09, Outback '06-'09, Saab 9-2X 2.5i '06 |- |6 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ255 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVT. |Subaru Forester XT '04-'10, Legacy GT '05-'09, Outback XT '05-'09,<br> Baja Turbo '04-'06 |- |7 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. 2-bbl. carb. 2wd. |Subaru Justy '87-'89, Justy DL '90-'92 |- |7 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. MPI. 2wd. |Subaru Justy GL '90-'94, Justy DL '93-'94 |- |7 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 4WD w/ air suspension. |Subaru GL-10 Turbo 4wd sedan '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon w/auto. trans. '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon w/man. trans. '88, XT coupe Turbo 4wd '85-'89 |- |7 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ255 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVT. |Subaru Impreza WRX '06-'14, Impreza WRX STi '04-'07, Impreza 2.5GT '09-'10,<br> Saab 9-2X Aero '06 |- |8 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. 2-bbl. carb. 4wd. |Subaru Justy GL 4wd '88-'89 |- |8 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. MPI. 4wd. |Subaru Justy GL 4wd '90-'94 |- |8 |2.7L SOHC, 12-valve ER27 flat-6. MPI. FWD. |Subaru XT6 '88-'91 |- |8 |3.3L DOHC, 24-valve EG33 flat-6. MPI. AWD. |Subaru SVX '96-'97 |- |8 |3.0L DOHC, 24-valve EZ30D flat-6. MPI. Intake VVT & VVL. |Subaru Legacy 3.0R '08-'09, Outback H6-3.0 '01-'04, Outback 3.0R '05-'09,<br> B9 Tribeca '06-'07 |- |8 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza WRX STi '08-'14 |- |9 |2.7L SOHC, 12-valve ER27 flat-6. MPI. AWD. |Subaru XT6 '88-'91 |- |9 |3.6L DOHC, 24-valve EZ36D flat-6. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Tribeca '08-'14 |} <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |1300cc - 1989; 1800cc FWD 1996 |- |2 |1600cc - 1989; 1800cc Impreza 1993-95; 1800cc Impreza AWD 1996-97; 2000cc AWD Turbo 2002-05 |- |3 |1600 4WD - 1989; 3300cc FWD/AWD 1992-1995; 2200cc FWD 1996-99 |- |4 |1800cc 1985-94; 2200cc AWD 1996-2000; FB 1600cc DIT AWD 2015+ |- |5 |1800cc 4WD w/out air susp - 1988, 1989; 1800cc 4WD 1990-94 2000cc 2004- |- |6 |2200cc 1990; 2200cc FWD/AWD 1991-95; 2200cc AWD (Ghost); 2500cc AWD 1996-2000; 2500cc AWD |- |7 |1800cc 4WD w/ air susp; 2200cc FWD 1989-94; 2500cc AWD Turbo |- |8 |2500cc FWD; 1200cc 4WD 1991; 1200cc AWD 1992-94; 3000cc 2001-2009; 3300cc FWD/AWD 1996-97 |- |9 |2500cc 4WD w/ & w/out air susp 1989-91; 3600cc 2008-up |- |A |2400cc AWD |- |D |2000cc DOHC Turbo Diesel |} </div> ===Model=== The '''model''' is identified in the '''<u>seventh</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |Standard model '81-'87 |- |1 |Base |- |2 |DL '81-'89, Loyale (non-Turbo) '90-'94, Brat DL '81-'83, XT coupe DL '85-'88 |- |2 |Brighton |- |3 |GL '81-'89, Brat GL '81-'87, XT coupe GL '85-'89, '91 |- |3 |L |- |4 |GLF '81-'82, GL-10 '85-'89, XT6 coupe '88-'89, '91 |- |4 |2.5GT with cloth |- |5 |GL Turbo (except '87 4wd wagon) '83-'87, GL-10 Turbo '86-'89, Brat GL Turbo '83-'84, XT coupe GL-10 Turbo '85-'87 |- |5 |LS/S |- |6 |RX Turbo '85-'89 |- |6 |LSi, Outback base |- |7 |GL Turbo 4wd wagon '87-'89, Loyale Turbo '90 |- |7 |GT/RS, Outback AWP |- |8 |Outback Limited Wagon/SUS |- |9 |Postal Vehicle/WRX/Outback VDC |- |0 |Outback L.L. Bean |- |K |STI WRX/Legacy/Outback |- |L |Outback |- |P |Ascent |- |V |XV Crosstrek |} </div> ===Restraint Type (Passenger) or Weight Class (MPV)=== The '''restraint type''', for passenger vehicles, or the weight class (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating), for MPVs, is specified in the '''<u>eighth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |No Passive Restraint |- |2 |Automatic Seat Belt w/o Air Bag |- |3 |Automatic Seat Belt w/ Air Bag |- |4 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Air Bag 1993-94; Automatic Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags |- |5 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags |- |6 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags and Side Air Bags |- |A |Class A (GVWR 3000 lbs. or less) |- |B |Class B (GVWR 3001-4000 lbs.) |- |C |Class C (GVWR 4001-5000 lbs.) |- |D |Class D (GVWR 5001-6000 lbs.) |} </div> The '''Check Digit''' is identified in the '''<u>ninth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN The '''Model Year''' is identified in the '''<u>tenth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN Letters began being reused in 2010. <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |2001 |- |2 |2002 |- |3 |2003 |- |4 |2004 |- |5 |2005 |- |6 |2006 |- |7 |2007 |- |8 |2008 |- |9 |2009 |- |A |1980, 2010 |- |B |1981, 2011 |- |C |1982, 2012 |- |D |1983, 2013 |- |E |1984, 2014 |- |F |1985, 2015 |- |G |1986, 2016 |- |H |1987, 2017 |- |I |not used |- |J |1988, 2018 |- |K |1989, 2019 |- |L |1990, 2020 |- |M |1991, 2021 |- |N |1992, 2022 |- |P |1993, 2023 |- |R |1994, 2024 |- |S |1995, 2025 |- |T |1996, 2026 |- |V |1997 |- |W |1998 |- |X |1999 |- |Y |2000 |} </div> ===Plants and transmission type=== The '''assembly plant''' and '''transmission type''' is specified in the '''<u>eleventh</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Plant !Transmission |- |1 |SIA |FWD 5MT |- |3 |SIA |Full-time AWD 6MT/AT |- |4 |SIA |Full-time AWD 5AT |- |5 |SIA |Sport Shift Automatic |- |6 |SIA |Full-time AWD 5MT |- |7 |SIA |Full-time AWD 4EAT |- |8 |SIA |Full-time AWD 4EAT (Postal RHD) |- |9 |SIA |FWD 4EAT |- |A |FHI |FWD 4MT |- |B |FHI |FWD 5MT |- |C |FHI |FWD 3AT/ECVT |- |D |FHI |On-demand AWD 5MT |- |E |FHI | 4spd 4wd Dual Range MT 81-84, 85-89 Hatchback, 85-89 Brat. 5spd 4wd dual range MT 85-89 |- |F |FHI |On-demand AWD 3AT |- |G |FHI |Full-time AWD 6MT. Full-time AWD CVT. |- |H |FHI |Full-time AWD 4EAT |- |K |FHI |FWD 4EAT |- |L |FHI |Full-time AWD 6MT |- |P |FHI |Full-time AWD 4EAT (Postal RHD) |} </div> ** SIA = Subaru-Isuzu Automotive (now known as Subaru of Indiana Automotive), Lafayette, Indiana ** FHI = Fuji Heavy Industries, Gunma, Japan The '''Vehicle Production Sequence''' number is specified in the '''<u>twelfth - seventeenth</u>''' characters of the Subaru VIN ** 100000 and after - Legacy Sedan SUS (Jan 98 - May 98) ** 210001 and after - Legacy Sedan ** 310001 and after - Legacy Station Wagon ** 410001 and after - Impreza Coupe; Ascent ** 510001 and after - Impreza Sedan ** 610001 and after - Legacy Station Wagon Outback ** 710001 and after - Forester Wagon ** 810001 and after - Impreza Sports Wagon ==External links== Online [http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Subaru Subaru VIN decoder] Online [www.auto-vin-decoder.com Universal VIN decoder] {{BookCat}} otampse8is9tj8r2jug3mro9mjvqn6z 4520912 4520905 2025-07-02T05:45:17Z JustTheFacts33 3434282 /* Model */ 4520912 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Warning}}{{clear}} *NOTE: This information appears to not conform with current information *Note: This information is incorrect for 4th Generation JDM Legacys. Subaru uses a '''17-character VIN''' format and code for vehicles sold in the United States. These rules also largely apply to the Saab 9-2x, a badge-engineered Subaru Impreza WRX wagon. ==Subaru VIN code== The following sample is the sequence and meaning of each character in the Subaru VIN: <div class=center> <table class="wikitable" border="1"><caption></caption><tr> <th>Position</th> <th>Sample</th> <th>Description</th> </tr><tr> <td>1</td> <td>J</td> <td rowspan=3>[[#Subaru WMIs|World Manufacturer Identifier]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>2</td> <td>F</td> </tr><tr> <td>3</td> <td>1</td> </tr><tr> <td>4</td> <td>C</td> <td>[[#Line types|Line type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>5</td> <td>X</td> <td>[[#Body styles|Body style]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>6</td> <td>8</td> <td>[[#Engine types|Engine type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>7</td> <td>6</td> <td>[[#Models|Model identifier]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>8</td> <td>5</td> <td>[[#Restraint types|Restraint type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>9</td> <td>9</td> <td>[[../../Check digit/]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>10</td> <td>T</td> <td>[[../../Model year/]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>11</td> <td>H</td> <td>[[#Plants and transmission types|Plant of manufacture & transmission type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>12</td> <td>1</td> <td rowspan=6>Sequential production number </tr><tr> <td>13</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr> <td>14</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr> <td>15</td> <td>2</td> </tr><tr> <td>16</td> <td>1</td> </tr><tr> <td>17</td> <td>6</td> </table> </div> <div class="center"><small>The above serial number describes the following vehicle built in Japan by Fuji Heavy Industries:</small></div> <div class="center"><small>1996 Subaru Alcyone SVX, 3.3L EG33 engine, AWD 4EAT transmission, manual seat belts<br />with driver / passenger airbags. The 216th vehicle produced during the 1996 model year.</small></div> ===Subaru WMIs=== The '''WMI''' is specified in the '''<u>first three</u>''' characters of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !WMI !Country !Description !Vehicle Types |- |JF1 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |Passenger Vehicle |- |JF2 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |MPV |- |JF3 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |truck |- |MMR |Thailand |Tan Chong Subaru Automotive (Thailand) Ltd. | |- |PLP |Malaysia |Tan Chong Motor Assemblies | |- |4S3 |USA |Subaru-Isuzu Automotive /<br>Subaru of Indiana Automotive |Passenger Vehicle |- |4S4 |USA |Subaru-Isuzu Automotive /<br>Subaru of Indiana Automotive |MPV |} MPV means Multi-Purpose Vehicle (station wagon, SUV, van or truck) </div> ===Line type=== The '''line type''' is specified in the '''<u>fourth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |A |STD/DL/GL/GLF/GL-10/RX/Loyale/Brat |- |A |XT/XT6 |- |B |Legacy/Outback/Baja |- |C |SVX |- |G |Subaru Impreza '93-/Impreza WRX '02-'14/XV Crosstrek '13-'15/Crosstrek '16-/Saab 9-2X '05-'06 |- |K |Justy |- |S |Forester |- |V |WRX '15- |- |V |Levorg (2nd gen. known as WRX Sportswagon in Australia & WRX wagon in S.E. Asia) (Not sold in North America) |- |W |B9 Tribeca/Tribeca |- |W |Ascent |- |Z |Subaru BRZ/Scion FR-S/Toyota 86/Toyota GR86 |} </div> ===Body style=== The '''body style''' is specified in the '''<u>fifth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |A |'87-'94 Justy 3-Door |- |A |'15-'21 WRX, WRX STi sedan (1st gen.) |- |B |'81-'84 DL/GL 4-door sedan (2nd gen.) |- |B |'22- WRX sedan (2nd gen.) |- |C |'85-'93 DL/GL/GL-10/RX/Turbo/Loyale sedan (3rd gen.) |- |C |'90-'94 Legacy sedan (1st gen.) |- |C |'93-'01 Impreza sedan (1st gen.) |- |C |'13-'20 BRZ coupe (1st gen.) |- |D |'90-'94 Justy 5-Door |- |D |'95-'99 Legacy sedan, '97-'99 Legacy SUS (2nd gen. Legacy) |- |D |'02-'07 Impreza sedan, Impreza WRX sedan (2nd gen.) |- |D |'22- BRZ coupe (2nd gen.) |- |E |'00-'04 Legacy sedan, Outback sedan (3rd gen. Legacy) |- |E |'08-'11 Impreza sedan, '08-'10 Impreza WRX sedan (3rd gen.) |- |F |'81-'89 STD/DL/GL 3-door hatchback (2nd gen.) |- |F |'93-'01 Impreza wagon, '95-'01 Impreza Outback Sport (1st gen.) |- |F |'94 Legacy GT wagon [raised-roof] (1st gen.) |- |F |Wagon: Forester (1st gen.) '98-'02 |- |G |'86-'90 DL/GL/RX/Turbo/Loyale 3-door coupe (3rd gen.) |- |G |'96-'99 Legacy Outback wagon [raised-roof] (2nd gen. Legacy) |- |G |'02-'07 Impreza wagon, Impreza WRX wagon, Impreza Outback Sport (2nd gen.), '05-'06 Saab 9-2X |- |G |Wagon: Forester (2nd gen.) '03-'08 |- |H |'00-'04 Legacy wagon, Outback wagon (3rd gen. Legacy) |- |H |'08-'11 Impreza 5-door hatchback, '08-'11 Impreza Outback Sport, '08-'10 Impreza WRX 5-door hatchback (3rd gen.) |- |H |Wagon: Forester (3rd gen.) '09-'13 |- |J |'90-'94 Legacy wagon [non-raised-roof] (1st gen.) |- |J |'12-'16 Impreza sedan (4th gen.) |- |J |Wagon: Forester (4th gen.) '14-'18 |- |K |'89-'90 GL/GL-10/Turbo/Loyale Touring wagon [raised roof] (3rd gen.) |- |K |'95-'99 Legacy wagon [non-raised-roof] (2nd gen.) |- |K |'17-'23 Impreza sedan (5th gen.) |- |K |Wagon: Forester (5th gen.) '19-'24, Forester Wilderness '22-'25 |- |L |'05-'09 Legacy sedan, '05-'07 Outback sedan (4th gen. Legacy) |- |L |Wagon: Forester (6th gen.) '25-, Forester Wilderness '26- |- |M |'81-'84 DL/GL 4-door wagon (2nd gen.) |- |M |'95-'01 Impreza coupe (1st gen.) |- |M |'10-'14 Legacy sedan (5th gen.) |- |M |'19- Ascent (1st gen.) |- |M |Levorg wagon (1st gen.) (Not sold in North America) |- |N |'85-'94 DL/GL/GL-10/Turbo/Loyale wagon (3rd gen.) |- |N |'13-'16 Scion FR-S, '17-'20 Toyota 86, '22- Toyota GR86 coupe |- |N |'15-'19 Legacy sedan (6th gen.) |- |N |Levorg wagon (WRX Sportswagon in Australia/WRX wagon in S.E. Asia) (2nd gen.) (Not sold in North America) |- |P |'05-'07 (& '08-'09 in Canada) Legacy wagon, '05-'09 Outback wagon (4th gen. Legacy) |- |P |'12-'16 Impreza 5-door hatchback (4th gen.), '13-'15 XV Crosstrek, '16-'17 Crosstrek (1st gen.) |- |R |Brat 1981 (1st gen.) |- |R |'08-'14 Impreza WRX STi 5-door hatchback [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |R |'11-'14 Impreza WRX 5-door hatchback [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |R |'10-'14 Outback wagon |- |S |'15-'19 Outback Wagon |- |T |Brat 1982-1985 (2nd gen.) |- |T |'03-'06 Baja |- |T |'17-'23 Impreza 5-door hatchback (5th gen.), '18-'23 Crosstrek (2nd gen.) |- |T |'20-'25 Outback Wagon |- |U |Brat 1986-1987 (2nd gen.) |- |U |'24- Impreza 5-door hatchback (6th gen.), '24- Crosstrek (3rd gen.) |- |V |'11-'14 Impreza WRX, WRX STi sedan [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |W |'81-'84 DL/GL/GLF 2-door hardtop coupe (2nd gen.) |- |W |'20-'25 Legacy sedan (7th gen.) |- |X |'85-'91 XT/XT6 coupe |- |X |'92-'97 SVX coupe |- |X |'06-'07 B9 Tribeca, '08-'14 Tribeca |} </div> ===Engine type=== The '''engine type''' is specified in the '''<u>sixth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" |+Position 6 !VIN code !Engine !Application |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FA20D flat-4 (Toyota 4U-GSE).<br> Toyota D-4S Direct/Port injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru BRZ '13-'20, Toyota Scion FR-S '13-'16, Toyota 86 '17-'20 |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20B flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza '12-'16 (except WRX models), XV Crosstrek '13-'15,<br> Crosstrek '16-'17 |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza '17-'23, Impreza Base, Sport '24-'25,<br> Crosstrek Base '18-'25, Premium '18-'24, Limited '18-'20 |- |A |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Forester '19-'24, Forester Wilderness '22-'25, Legacy '20-'25,<br> Outback '20-'25 |- |A |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA24F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Ascent '19-'25, WRX '22-'25 |- |B |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20X flat-4 + 1 electric motor.<br> Nickel-metal hydride Battery Pack. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru XV Crosstrek Hybrid '14-'15, Crosstrek Hybrid '16 |- |B |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve FA24D flat-4. Toyota D-4S Direct/Port injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru BRZ '22-'25, Toyota GR86 '22-'25 |- |D |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20V flat-4 + 2 electric motors. Lithium-ion battery pack. Direct injection. Dual VVT. Atkinson cycle. |Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid ([[w:PHEV|PHEV]]) '19-'23 |- |D |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Forester '25 (except Wilderness), '26 |- |G |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA24F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Legacy XT '20-'25, Legacy Sport '23-'25,<br> Outback XT '20-'25, Outback Wilderness '22-'25 |- |H |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza RS '24-'25,<br> Crosstrek Sport '21-'25, Limited '21-'25, Wilderness '24-'25, Premium '25- |- |S |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4 + 2 electric motors. Lithium-ion battery pack. Direct injection. Dual VVT. Atkinson cycle. |Subaru Forester Hybrid '25-'26 |- |1 |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA20F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX '15-'21 |- |2 |1.6L OHV, 8-valve EA71 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 2WD. |Subaru Standard Hatchback 2wd '87, GL Hatchback 2wd w/man. trans. '87 |- |2 |1.8L SOHC, 16-valve EJ18 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza (all models) '93-'94, Impreza Base, L 1.8, Outback Sport 1.8 '95 |- |2 |1.8L SOHC, 16-valve EJ18 flat-4. MPI. AWD. |Subaru Impreza Brighton '96-'97 |- |2 |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ205 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza WRX '02-'05, Saab 9-2X Aero '05 |- |2 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX STi '15-'21, STi S209 '19 |- |3 |3.3L DOHC, 24-valve EG33 flat-6. MPI. |Subaru SVX '92-'95 |- |3 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. FWD. |Subaru Legacy L '96 |- |3 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX STi Type RA '18 |- |4 |1.8L OHV, 8-valve EA81 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 2WD. |Subaru GL Hatchback 2wd w/auto. trans. '87, GL Hatchback 2wd '88-'89 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. TBI. 2WD. |Subaru DL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 2wd '88-'89, GL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 2wd '88-'89, GL-10 sedan, wagon 2wd '88, Loyale 2wd '90-'93 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. MPI. 2WD. |Subaru XT coupe 2wd '85-'91 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 2WD. |Subaru GL Turbo 2wd 3-d coupe '87, GL Turbo 2wd sedan '87, GL Turbo 2wd wagon '87, GL-10 Turbo 2wd sedan '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 2wd wagon '87-'89, Loyale Turbo 2wd '90, XT coupe Turbo 2wd '85-'87 |- |4 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. AWD. |Subaru Impreza L '96-'01, LX '96, Impreza Outback Sport '96-'01,<br> Legacy Brighton, L '96-'99, LS '96, Outback '96 |- |5 |1.8L OHV, 8-valve EA81 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 4WD. |Subaru GL Hatchback 4wd '87-'89, Brat GL 4wd '87 |- |5 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. TBI. 4WD. |Subaru DL wagon 4wd '88-'89, GL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 4wd '88-'89, Loyale 4wd '90-'94 |- |5 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 4WD. |Subaru RX Turbo 4wd 3-d coupe '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd sedan '88-'89, RX Turbo 4wd sedan '87-'88, GL Turbo 4wd wagon '88-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon '88-'89, Loyale Turbo 4wd '90 |- |6 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza L 2.2 '95, LX '95, Impreza Outback Sport 2.2 '95, Legacy '90-'95 |- |6 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve turbo EJ22T flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Legacy Sport Sedan '91-'94, [LE] Touring Wagon '92-'94 |- |6 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve EJ25D flat-4 (Phase I). MPI. |Subaru Impreza 2.5RS '98, Forester '98, Legacy 2.5GT '96-'99, LSi '96-'97,<br> SUS '97-'99, Outback '96-'99 |- |6 |2.5L SOHC, 16-valve EJ253 flat-4 (Phase II). MPI. |Subaru Impreza 2.5RS '99-'01, Impreza (except WRX) '02-'05,<br> Impreza Outback Sport '02-'05, Forester '99-'05, Legacy '00-'05,<br> Outback '00-'05, Baja Base '03, Sport '03-'06, Saab 9-2X Linear '05 |- |6 |2.5L SOHC, 16-valve EJ253 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVL. |Subaru Impreza (except WRX) '06-'11, Subaru Impreza Outback Sport '06-'11, Forester '06-'10, Legacy '06-'09, Outback '06-'09, Saab 9-2X 2.5i '06 |- |6 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ255 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVT. |Subaru Forester XT '04-'10, Legacy GT '05-'09, Outback XT '05-'09,<br> Baja Turbo '04-'06 |- |7 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. 2-bbl. carb. 2wd. |Subaru Justy '87-'89, Justy DL '90-'92 |- |7 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. MPI. 2wd. |Subaru Justy GL '90-'94, Justy DL '93-'94 |- |7 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 4WD w/ air suspension. |Subaru GL-10 Turbo 4wd sedan '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon w/auto. trans. '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon w/man. trans. '88, XT coupe Turbo 4wd '85-'89 |- |7 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ255 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVT. |Subaru Impreza WRX '06-'14, Impreza WRX STi '04-'07, Impreza 2.5GT '09-'10,<br> Saab 9-2X Aero '06 |- |8 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. 2-bbl. carb. 4wd. |Subaru Justy GL 4wd '88-'89 |- |8 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. MPI. 4wd. |Subaru Justy GL 4wd '90-'94 |- |8 |2.7L SOHC, 12-valve ER27 flat-6. MPI. FWD. |Subaru XT6 '88-'91 |- |8 |3.3L DOHC, 24-valve EG33 flat-6. MPI. AWD. |Subaru SVX '96-'97 |- |8 |3.0L DOHC, 24-valve EZ30D flat-6. MPI. Intake VVT & VVL. |Subaru Legacy 3.0R '08-'09, Outback H6-3.0 '01-'04, Outback 3.0R '05-'09,<br> B9 Tribeca '06-'07 |- |8 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza WRX STi '08-'14 |- |9 |2.7L SOHC, 12-valve ER27 flat-6. MPI. AWD. |Subaru XT6 '88-'91 |- |9 |3.6L DOHC, 24-valve EZ36D flat-6. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Tribeca '08-'14 |} <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |1300cc - 1989; 1800cc FWD 1996 |- |2 |1600cc - 1989; 1800cc Impreza 1993-95; 1800cc Impreza AWD 1996-97; 2000cc AWD Turbo 2002-05 |- |3 |1600 4WD - 1989; 3300cc FWD/AWD 1992-1995; 2200cc FWD 1996-99 |- |4 |1800cc 1985-94; 2200cc AWD 1996-2000; FB 1600cc DIT AWD 2015+ |- |5 |1800cc 4WD w/out air susp - 1988, 1989; 1800cc 4WD 1990-94 2000cc 2004- |- |6 |2200cc 1990; 2200cc FWD/AWD 1991-95; 2200cc AWD (Ghost); 2500cc AWD 1996-2000; 2500cc AWD |- |7 |1800cc 4WD w/ air susp; 2200cc FWD 1989-94; 2500cc AWD Turbo |- |8 |2500cc FWD; 1200cc 4WD 1991; 1200cc AWD 1992-94; 3000cc 2001-2009; 3300cc FWD/AWD 1996-97 |- |9 |2500cc 4WD w/ & w/out air susp 1989-91; 3600cc 2008-up |- |A |2400cc AWD |- |D |2000cc DOHC Turbo Diesel |} </div> ===Model=== The '''model''' is identified in the '''<u>seventh</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |Standard model '81-'87, Loyale RS 3-door coupe (non-Turbo) '90 |- |1 |Base |- |2 |DL '81-'89, Loyale (non-Turbo) '90-'94, Brat DL '81-'83, Justy DL '87-'94, XT coupe DL '85-'88 |- |2 |Legacy Base model '90, Brighton |- |3 |GL '81-'89, Brat GL '81-'87, Justy GL '87-'94, Justy RS '88-'89, XT coupe GL '85-'89, '91 |- |3 |Legacy L '90-'94 |- |4 |GLF '81-'82, GL-10 '85-'89, XT6 coupe '88-'89, '91 |- |4 |Legacy LS '90, 2.5GT with cloth |- |5 |GL Turbo (except '87 4wd wagon) '83-'87, GL-10 Turbo '86-'89, Brat GL Turbo '83-'84, XT coupe GL-10 Turbo '85-'87 |- |5 |Legacy LS "Special" '90, Legacy LS '91-'94, Legacy LSi '91-'94 |- |6 |RX Turbo '85-'89 |- |6 |LSi, Outback base |- |7 |GL Turbo 4wd wagon '87-'89, Loyale Turbo '90, Loyale RS Turbo 3-door coupe '90 |- |7 |Legacy Sport Sedan '91-'94, Legacy [LE] Touring Wagon '92-'94, GT/RS, Outback AWP |- |8 |Outback Limited Wagon/SUS |- |9 |Postal Vehicle/WRX/Outback VDC |- |0 |Outback L.L. Bean |- |K |STI WRX/Legacy/Outback |- |L |Outback |- |P |Ascent |- |V |XV Crosstrek |} </div> ===Restraint Type (Passenger) or Weight Class (MPV)=== The '''restraint type''', for passenger vehicles, or the weight class (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating), for MPVs, is specified in the '''<u>eighth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |No Passive Restraint |- |2 |Automatic Seat Belt w/o Air Bag |- |3 |Automatic Seat Belt w/ Air Bag |- |4 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Air Bag 1993-94; Automatic Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags |- |5 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags |- |6 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags and Side Air Bags |- |A |Class A (GVWR 3000 lbs. or less) |- |B |Class B (GVWR 3001-4000 lbs.) |- |C |Class C (GVWR 4001-5000 lbs.) |- |D |Class D (GVWR 5001-6000 lbs.) |} </div> The '''Check Digit''' is identified in the '''<u>ninth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN The '''Model Year''' is identified in the '''<u>tenth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN Letters began being reused in 2010. <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |2001 |- |2 |2002 |- |3 |2003 |- |4 |2004 |- |5 |2005 |- |6 |2006 |- |7 |2007 |- |8 |2008 |- |9 |2009 |- |A |1980, 2010 |- |B |1981, 2011 |- |C |1982, 2012 |- |D |1983, 2013 |- |E |1984, 2014 |- |F |1985, 2015 |- |G |1986, 2016 |- |H |1987, 2017 |- |I |not used |- |J |1988, 2018 |- |K |1989, 2019 |- |L |1990, 2020 |- |M |1991, 2021 |- |N |1992, 2022 |- |P |1993, 2023 |- |R |1994, 2024 |- |S |1995, 2025 |- |T |1996, 2026 |- |V |1997 |- |W |1998 |- |X |1999 |- |Y |2000 |} </div> ===Plants and transmission type=== The '''assembly plant''' and '''transmission type''' is specified in the '''<u>eleventh</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Plant !Transmission |- |1 |SIA |FWD 5MT |- |3 |SIA |Full-time AWD 6MT/AT |- |4 |SIA |Full-time AWD 5AT |- |5 |SIA |Sport Shift Automatic |- |6 |SIA |Full-time AWD 5MT |- |7 |SIA |Full-time AWD 4EAT |- |8 |SIA |Full-time AWD 4EAT (Postal RHD) |- |9 |SIA |FWD 4EAT |- |A |FHI |FWD 4MT |- |B |FHI |FWD 5MT |- |C |FHI |FWD 3AT/ECVT |- |D |FHI |On-demand AWD 5MT |- |E |FHI | 4spd 4wd Dual Range MT 81-84, 85-89 Hatchback, 85-89 Brat. 5spd 4wd dual range MT 85-89 |- |F |FHI |On-demand AWD 3AT |- |G |FHI |Full-time AWD 6MT. Full-time AWD CVT. |- |H |FHI |Full-time AWD 4EAT |- |K |FHI |FWD 4EAT |- |L |FHI |Full-time AWD 6MT |- |P |FHI |Full-time AWD 4EAT (Postal RHD) |} </div> ** SIA = Subaru-Isuzu Automotive (now known as Subaru of Indiana Automotive), Lafayette, Indiana ** FHI = Fuji Heavy Industries, Gunma, Japan The '''Vehicle Production Sequence''' number is specified in the '''<u>twelfth - seventeenth</u>''' characters of the Subaru VIN ** 100000 and after - Legacy Sedan SUS (Jan 98 - May 98) ** 210001 and after - Legacy Sedan ** 310001 and after - Legacy Station Wagon ** 410001 and after - Impreza Coupe; Ascent ** 510001 and after - Impreza Sedan ** 610001 and after - Legacy Station Wagon Outback ** 710001 and after - Forester Wagon ** 810001 and after - Impreza Sports Wagon ==External links== Online [http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Subaru Subaru VIN decoder] Online [www.auto-vin-decoder.com Universal VIN decoder] {{BookCat}} bs6suvq4pn3ak21snskkm21ac1plbra 4520913 4520912 2025-07-02T05:48:42Z JustTheFacts33 3434282 /* Line type */ 4520913 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Warning}}{{clear}} *NOTE: This information appears to not conform with current information *Note: This information is incorrect for 4th Generation JDM Legacys. Subaru uses a '''17-character VIN''' format and code for vehicles sold in the United States. These rules also largely apply to the Saab 9-2x, a badge-engineered Subaru Impreza WRX wagon. ==Subaru VIN code== The following sample is the sequence and meaning of each character in the Subaru VIN: <div class=center> <table class="wikitable" border="1"><caption></caption><tr> <th>Position</th> <th>Sample</th> <th>Description</th> </tr><tr> <td>1</td> <td>J</td> <td rowspan=3>[[#Subaru WMIs|World Manufacturer Identifier]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>2</td> <td>F</td> </tr><tr> <td>3</td> <td>1</td> </tr><tr> <td>4</td> <td>C</td> <td>[[#Line types|Line type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>5</td> <td>X</td> <td>[[#Body styles|Body style]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>6</td> <td>8</td> <td>[[#Engine types|Engine type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>7</td> <td>6</td> <td>[[#Models|Model identifier]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>8</td> <td>5</td> <td>[[#Restraint types|Restraint type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>9</td> <td>9</td> <td>[[../../Check digit/]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>10</td> <td>T</td> <td>[[../../Model year/]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>11</td> <td>H</td> <td>[[#Plants and transmission types|Plant of manufacture & transmission type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>12</td> <td>1</td> <td rowspan=6>Sequential production number </tr><tr> <td>13</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr> <td>14</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr> <td>15</td> <td>2</td> </tr><tr> <td>16</td> <td>1</td> </tr><tr> <td>17</td> <td>6</td> </table> </div> <div class="center"><small>The above serial number describes the following vehicle built in Japan by Fuji Heavy Industries:</small></div> <div class="center"><small>1996 Subaru Alcyone SVX, 3.3L EG33 engine, AWD 4EAT transmission, manual seat belts<br />with driver / passenger airbags. The 216th vehicle produced during the 1996 model year.</small></div> ===Subaru WMIs=== The '''WMI''' is specified in the '''<u>first three</u>''' characters of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !WMI !Country !Description !Vehicle Types |- |JF1 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |Passenger Vehicle |- |JF2 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |MPV |- |JF3 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |truck |- |MMR |Thailand |Tan Chong Subaru Automotive (Thailand) Ltd. | |- |PLP |Malaysia |Tan Chong Motor Assemblies | |- |4S3 |USA |Subaru-Isuzu Automotive /<br>Subaru of Indiana Automotive |Passenger Vehicle |- |4S4 |USA |Subaru-Isuzu Automotive /<br>Subaru of Indiana Automotive |MPV |} MPV means Multi-Purpose Vehicle (station wagon, SUV, van or truck) </div> ===Line type=== The '''line type''' is specified in the '''<u>fourth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |A |STD/DL/GL/GLF/GL-10/RX/Loyale/Brat |- |A |XT/XT6 |- |B |Legacy/Outback/Baja |- |C |SVX |- |G |Subaru Impreza '93-/Impreza WRX '02-'14/XV Crosstrek '13-'15/Crosstrek '16-/Saab 9-2X '05-'06 |- |K |Justy '87-'94 & '95 in Canada |- |S |Forester |- |V |WRX '15- |- |V |Levorg (2nd gen. known as WRX Sportswagon in Australia & WRX wagon in S.E. Asia) (Not sold in North America) |- |W |B9 Tribeca/Tribeca |- |W |Ascent |- |Z |Subaru BRZ/Scion FR-S/Toyota 86/Toyota GR86 |} </div> ===Body style=== The '''body style''' is specified in the '''<u>fifth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |A |'87-'94 Justy 3-Door |- |A |'15-'21 WRX, WRX STi sedan (1st gen.) |- |B |'81-'84 DL/GL 4-door sedan (2nd gen.) |- |B |'22- WRX sedan (2nd gen.) |- |C |'85-'93 DL/GL/GL-10/RX/Turbo/Loyale sedan (3rd gen.) |- |C |'90-'94 Legacy sedan (1st gen.) |- |C |'93-'01 Impreza sedan (1st gen.) |- |C |'13-'20 BRZ coupe (1st gen.) |- |D |'90-'94 Justy 5-Door |- |D |'95-'99 Legacy sedan, '97-'99 Legacy SUS (2nd gen. Legacy) |- |D |'02-'07 Impreza sedan, Impreza WRX sedan (2nd gen.) |- |D |'22- BRZ coupe (2nd gen.) |- |E |'00-'04 Legacy sedan, Outback sedan (3rd gen. Legacy) |- |E |'08-'11 Impreza sedan, '08-'10 Impreza WRX sedan (3rd gen.) |- |F |'81-'89 STD/DL/GL 3-door hatchback (2nd gen.) |- |F |'93-'01 Impreza wagon, '95-'01 Impreza Outback Sport (1st gen.) |- |F |'94 Legacy GT wagon [raised-roof] (1st gen.) |- |F |Wagon: Forester (1st gen.) '98-'02 |- |G |'86-'90 DL/GL/RX/Turbo/Loyale 3-door coupe (3rd gen.) |- |G |'96-'99 Legacy Outback wagon [raised-roof] (2nd gen. Legacy) |- |G |'02-'07 Impreza wagon, Impreza WRX wagon, Impreza Outback Sport (2nd gen.), '05-'06 Saab 9-2X |- |G |Wagon: Forester (2nd gen.) '03-'08 |- |H |'00-'04 Legacy wagon, Outback wagon (3rd gen. Legacy) |- |H |'08-'11 Impreza 5-door hatchback, '08-'11 Impreza Outback Sport, '08-'10 Impreza WRX 5-door hatchback (3rd gen.) |- |H |Wagon: Forester (3rd gen.) '09-'13 |- |J |'90-'94 Legacy wagon [non-raised-roof] (1st gen.) |- |J |'12-'16 Impreza sedan (4th gen.) |- |J |Wagon: Forester (4th gen.) '14-'18 |- |K |'89-'90 GL/GL-10/Turbo/Loyale Touring wagon [raised roof] (3rd gen.) |- |K |'95-'99 Legacy wagon [non-raised-roof] (2nd gen.) |- |K |'17-'23 Impreza sedan (5th gen.) |- |K |Wagon: Forester (5th gen.) '19-'24, Forester Wilderness '22-'25 |- |L |'05-'09 Legacy sedan, '05-'07 Outback sedan (4th gen. Legacy) |- |L |Wagon: Forester (6th gen.) '25-, Forester Wilderness '26- |- |M |'81-'84 DL/GL 4-door wagon (2nd gen.) |- |M |'95-'01 Impreza coupe (1st gen.) |- |M |'10-'14 Legacy sedan (5th gen.) |- |M |'19- Ascent (1st gen.) |- |M |Levorg wagon (1st gen.) (Not sold in North America) |- |N |'85-'94 DL/GL/GL-10/Turbo/Loyale wagon (3rd gen.) |- |N |'13-'16 Scion FR-S, '17-'20 Toyota 86, '22- Toyota GR86 coupe |- |N |'15-'19 Legacy sedan (6th gen.) |- |N |Levorg wagon (WRX Sportswagon in Australia/WRX wagon in S.E. Asia) (2nd gen.) (Not sold in North America) |- |P |'05-'07 (& '08-'09 in Canada) Legacy wagon, '05-'09 Outback wagon (4th gen. Legacy) |- |P |'12-'16 Impreza 5-door hatchback (4th gen.), '13-'15 XV Crosstrek, '16-'17 Crosstrek (1st gen.) |- |R |Brat 1981 (1st gen.) |- |R |'08-'14 Impreza WRX STi 5-door hatchback [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |R |'11-'14 Impreza WRX 5-door hatchback [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |R |'10-'14 Outback wagon |- |S |'15-'19 Outback Wagon |- |T |Brat 1982-1985 (2nd gen.) |- |T |'03-'06 Baja |- |T |'17-'23 Impreza 5-door hatchback (5th gen.), '18-'23 Crosstrek (2nd gen.) |- |T |'20-'25 Outback Wagon |- |U |Brat 1986-1987 (2nd gen.) |- |U |'24- Impreza 5-door hatchback (6th gen.), '24- Crosstrek (3rd gen.) |- |V |'11-'14 Impreza WRX, WRX STi sedan [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |W |'81-'84 DL/GL/GLF 2-door hardtop coupe (2nd gen.) |- |W |'20-'25 Legacy sedan (7th gen.) |- |X |'85-'91 XT/XT6 coupe |- |X |'92-'97 SVX coupe |- |X |'06-'07 B9 Tribeca, '08-'14 Tribeca |} </div> ===Engine type=== The '''engine type''' is specified in the '''<u>sixth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" |+Position 6 !VIN code !Engine !Application |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FA20D flat-4 (Toyota 4U-GSE).<br> Toyota D-4S Direct/Port injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru BRZ '13-'20, Toyota Scion FR-S '13-'16, Toyota 86 '17-'20 |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20B flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza '12-'16 (except WRX models), XV Crosstrek '13-'15,<br> Crosstrek '16-'17 |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza '17-'23, Impreza Base, Sport '24-'25,<br> Crosstrek Base '18-'25, Premium '18-'24, Limited '18-'20 |- |A |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Forester '19-'24, Forester Wilderness '22-'25, Legacy '20-'25,<br> Outback '20-'25 |- |A |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA24F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Ascent '19-'25, WRX '22-'25 |- |B |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20X flat-4 + 1 electric motor.<br> Nickel-metal hydride Battery Pack. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru XV Crosstrek Hybrid '14-'15, Crosstrek Hybrid '16 |- |B |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve FA24D flat-4. Toyota D-4S Direct/Port injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru BRZ '22-'25, Toyota GR86 '22-'25 |- |D |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20V flat-4 + 2 electric motors. Lithium-ion battery pack. Direct injection. Dual VVT. Atkinson cycle. |Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid ([[w:PHEV|PHEV]]) '19-'23 |- |D |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Forester '25 (except Wilderness), '26 |- |G |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA24F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Legacy XT '20-'25, Legacy Sport '23-'25,<br> Outback XT '20-'25, Outback Wilderness '22-'25 |- |H |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza RS '24-'25,<br> Crosstrek Sport '21-'25, Limited '21-'25, Wilderness '24-'25, Premium '25- |- |S |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4 + 2 electric motors. Lithium-ion battery pack. Direct injection. Dual VVT. Atkinson cycle. |Subaru Forester Hybrid '25-'26 |- |1 |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA20F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX '15-'21 |- |2 |1.6L OHV, 8-valve EA71 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 2WD. |Subaru Standard Hatchback 2wd '87, GL Hatchback 2wd w/man. trans. '87 |- |2 |1.8L SOHC, 16-valve EJ18 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza (all models) '93-'94, Impreza Base, L 1.8, Outback Sport 1.8 '95 |- |2 |1.8L SOHC, 16-valve EJ18 flat-4. MPI. AWD. |Subaru Impreza Brighton '96-'97 |- |2 |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ205 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza WRX '02-'05, Saab 9-2X Aero '05 |- |2 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX STi '15-'21, STi S209 '19 |- |3 |3.3L DOHC, 24-valve EG33 flat-6. MPI. |Subaru SVX '92-'95 |- |3 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. FWD. |Subaru Legacy L '96 |- |3 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX STi Type RA '18 |- |4 |1.8L OHV, 8-valve EA81 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 2WD. |Subaru GL Hatchback 2wd w/auto. trans. '87, GL Hatchback 2wd '88-'89 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. TBI. 2WD. |Subaru DL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 2wd '88-'89, GL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 2wd '88-'89, GL-10 sedan, wagon 2wd '88, Loyale 2wd '90-'93 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. MPI. 2WD. |Subaru XT coupe 2wd '85-'91 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 2WD. |Subaru GL Turbo 2wd 3-d coupe '87, GL Turbo 2wd sedan '87, GL Turbo 2wd wagon '87, GL-10 Turbo 2wd sedan '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 2wd wagon '87-'89, Loyale Turbo 2wd '90, XT coupe Turbo 2wd '85-'87 |- |4 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. AWD. |Subaru Impreza L '96-'01, LX '96, Impreza Outback Sport '96-'01,<br> Legacy Brighton, L '96-'99, LS '96, Outback '96 |- |5 |1.8L OHV, 8-valve EA81 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 4WD. |Subaru GL Hatchback 4wd '87-'89, Brat GL 4wd '87 |- |5 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. TBI. 4WD. |Subaru DL wagon 4wd '88-'89, GL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 4wd '88-'89, Loyale 4wd '90-'94 |- |5 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 4WD. |Subaru RX Turbo 4wd 3-d coupe '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd sedan '88-'89, RX Turbo 4wd sedan '87-'88, GL Turbo 4wd wagon '88-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon '88-'89, Loyale Turbo 4wd '90 |- |6 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza L 2.2 '95, LX '95, Impreza Outback Sport 2.2 '95, Legacy '90-'95 |- |6 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve turbo EJ22T flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Legacy Sport Sedan '91-'94, [LE] Touring Wagon '92-'94 |- |6 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve EJ25D flat-4 (Phase I). MPI. |Subaru Impreza 2.5RS '98, Forester '98, Legacy 2.5GT '96-'99, LSi '96-'97,<br> SUS '97-'99, Outback '96-'99 |- |6 |2.5L SOHC, 16-valve EJ253 flat-4 (Phase II). MPI. |Subaru Impreza 2.5RS '99-'01, Impreza (except WRX) '02-'05,<br> Impreza Outback Sport '02-'05, Forester '99-'05, Legacy '00-'05,<br> Outback '00-'05, Baja Base '03, Sport '03-'06, Saab 9-2X Linear '05 |- |6 |2.5L SOHC, 16-valve EJ253 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVL. |Subaru Impreza (except WRX) '06-'11, Subaru Impreza Outback Sport '06-'11, Forester '06-'10, Legacy '06-'09, Outback '06-'09, Saab 9-2X 2.5i '06 |- |6 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ255 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVT. |Subaru Forester XT '04-'10, Legacy GT '05-'09, Outback XT '05-'09,<br> Baja Turbo '04-'06 |- |7 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. 2-bbl. carb. 2wd. |Subaru Justy '87-'89, Justy DL '90-'92 |- |7 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. MPI. 2wd. |Subaru Justy GL '90-'94, Justy DL '93-'94 |- |7 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 4WD w/ air suspension. |Subaru GL-10 Turbo 4wd sedan '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon w/auto. trans. '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon w/man. trans. '88, XT coupe Turbo 4wd '85-'89 |- |7 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ255 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVT. |Subaru Impreza WRX '06-'14, Impreza WRX STi '04-'07, Impreza 2.5GT '09-'10,<br> Saab 9-2X Aero '06 |- |8 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. 2-bbl. carb. 4wd. |Subaru Justy GL 4wd '88-'89 |- |8 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. MPI. 4wd. |Subaru Justy GL 4wd '90-'94 |- |8 |2.7L SOHC, 12-valve ER27 flat-6. MPI. FWD. |Subaru XT6 '88-'91 |- |8 |3.3L DOHC, 24-valve EG33 flat-6. MPI. AWD. |Subaru SVX '96-'97 |- |8 |3.0L DOHC, 24-valve EZ30D flat-6. MPI. Intake VVT & VVL. |Subaru Legacy 3.0R '08-'09, Outback H6-3.0 '01-'04, Outback 3.0R '05-'09,<br> B9 Tribeca '06-'07 |- |8 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza WRX STi '08-'14 |- |9 |2.7L SOHC, 12-valve ER27 flat-6. MPI. AWD. |Subaru XT6 '88-'91 |- |9 |3.6L DOHC, 24-valve EZ36D flat-6. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Tribeca '08-'14 |} <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |1300cc - 1989; 1800cc FWD 1996 |- |2 |1600cc - 1989; 1800cc Impreza 1993-95; 1800cc Impreza AWD 1996-97; 2000cc AWD Turbo 2002-05 |- |3 |1600 4WD - 1989; 3300cc FWD/AWD 1992-1995; 2200cc FWD 1996-99 |- |4 |1800cc 1985-94; 2200cc AWD 1996-2000; FB 1600cc DIT AWD 2015+ |- |5 |1800cc 4WD w/out air susp - 1988, 1989; 1800cc 4WD 1990-94 2000cc 2004- |- |6 |2200cc 1990; 2200cc FWD/AWD 1991-95; 2200cc AWD (Ghost); 2500cc AWD 1996-2000; 2500cc AWD |- |7 |1800cc 4WD w/ air susp; 2200cc FWD 1989-94; 2500cc AWD Turbo |- |8 |2500cc FWD; 1200cc 4WD 1991; 1200cc AWD 1992-94; 3000cc 2001-2009; 3300cc FWD/AWD 1996-97 |- |9 |2500cc 4WD w/ & w/out air susp 1989-91; 3600cc 2008-up |- |A |2400cc AWD |- |D |2000cc DOHC Turbo Diesel |} </div> ===Model=== The '''model''' is identified in the '''<u>seventh</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |Standard model '81-'87, Loyale RS 3-door coupe (non-Turbo) '90 |- |1 |Base |- |2 |DL '81-'89, Loyale (non-Turbo) '90-'94, Brat DL '81-'83, Justy DL '87-'94, XT coupe DL '85-'88 |- |2 |Legacy Base model '90, Brighton |- |3 |GL '81-'89, Brat GL '81-'87, Justy GL '87-'94, Justy RS '88-'89, XT coupe GL '85-'89, '91 |- |3 |Legacy L '90-'94 |- |4 |GLF '81-'82, GL-10 '85-'89, XT6 coupe '88-'89, '91 |- |4 |Legacy LS '90, 2.5GT with cloth |- |5 |GL Turbo (except '87 4wd wagon) '83-'87, GL-10 Turbo '86-'89, Brat GL Turbo '83-'84, XT coupe GL-10 Turbo '85-'87 |- |5 |Legacy LS "Special" '90, Legacy LS '91-'94, Legacy LSi '91-'94 |- |6 |RX Turbo '85-'89 |- |6 |LSi, Outback base |- |7 |GL Turbo 4wd wagon '87-'89, Loyale Turbo '90, Loyale RS Turbo 3-door coupe '90 |- |7 |Legacy Sport Sedan '91-'94, Legacy [LE] Touring Wagon '92-'94, GT/RS, Outback AWP |- |8 |Outback Limited Wagon/SUS |- |9 |Postal Vehicle/WRX/Outback VDC |- |0 |Outback L.L. Bean |- |K |STI WRX/Legacy/Outback |- |L |Outback |- |P |Ascent |- |V |XV Crosstrek |} </div> ===Restraint Type (Passenger) or Weight Class (MPV)=== The '''restraint type''', for passenger vehicles, or the weight class (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating), for MPVs, is specified in the '''<u>eighth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |No Passive Restraint |- |2 |Automatic Seat Belt w/o Air Bag |- |3 |Automatic Seat Belt w/ Air Bag |- |4 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Air Bag 1993-94; Automatic Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags |- |5 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags |- |6 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags and Side Air Bags |- |A |Class A (GVWR 3000 lbs. or less) |- |B |Class B (GVWR 3001-4000 lbs.) |- |C |Class C (GVWR 4001-5000 lbs.) |- |D |Class D (GVWR 5001-6000 lbs.) |} </div> The '''Check Digit''' is identified in the '''<u>ninth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN The '''Model Year''' is identified in the '''<u>tenth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN Letters began being reused in 2010. <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |2001 |- |2 |2002 |- |3 |2003 |- |4 |2004 |- |5 |2005 |- |6 |2006 |- |7 |2007 |- |8 |2008 |- |9 |2009 |- |A |1980, 2010 |- |B |1981, 2011 |- |C |1982, 2012 |- |D |1983, 2013 |- |E |1984, 2014 |- |F |1985, 2015 |- |G |1986, 2016 |- |H |1987, 2017 |- |I |not used |- |J |1988, 2018 |- |K |1989, 2019 |- |L |1990, 2020 |- |M |1991, 2021 |- |N |1992, 2022 |- |P |1993, 2023 |- |R |1994, 2024 |- |S |1995, 2025 |- |T |1996, 2026 |- |V |1997 |- |W |1998 |- |X |1999 |- |Y |2000 |} </div> ===Plants and transmission type=== The '''assembly plant''' and '''transmission type''' is specified in the '''<u>eleventh</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Plant !Transmission |- |1 |SIA |FWD 5MT |- |3 |SIA |Full-time AWD 6MT/AT |- |4 |SIA |Full-time AWD 5AT |- |5 |SIA |Sport Shift Automatic |- |6 |SIA |Full-time AWD 5MT |- |7 |SIA |Full-time AWD 4EAT |- |8 |SIA |Full-time AWD 4EAT (Postal RHD) |- |9 |SIA |FWD 4EAT |- |A |FHI |FWD 4MT |- |B |FHI |FWD 5MT |- |C |FHI |FWD 3AT/ECVT |- |D |FHI |On-demand AWD 5MT |- |E |FHI | 4spd 4wd Dual Range MT 81-84, 85-89 Hatchback, 85-89 Brat. 5spd 4wd dual range MT 85-89 |- |F |FHI |On-demand AWD 3AT |- |G |FHI |Full-time AWD 6MT. Full-time AWD CVT. |- |H |FHI |Full-time AWD 4EAT |- |K |FHI |FWD 4EAT |- |L |FHI |Full-time AWD 6MT |- |P |FHI |Full-time AWD 4EAT (Postal RHD) |} </div> ** SIA = Subaru-Isuzu Automotive (now known as Subaru of Indiana Automotive), Lafayette, Indiana ** FHI = Fuji Heavy Industries, Gunma, Japan The '''Vehicle Production Sequence''' number is specified in the '''<u>twelfth - seventeenth</u>''' characters of the Subaru VIN ** 100000 and after - Legacy Sedan SUS (Jan 98 - May 98) ** 210001 and after - Legacy Sedan ** 310001 and after - Legacy Station Wagon ** 410001 and after - Impreza Coupe; Ascent ** 510001 and after - Impreza Sedan ** 610001 and after - Legacy Station Wagon Outback ** 710001 and after - Forester Wagon ** 810001 and after - Impreza Sports Wagon ==External links== Online [http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Subaru Subaru VIN decoder] Online [www.auto-vin-decoder.com Universal VIN decoder] {{BookCat}} 5192vqqrrl9n6ctv0q9q4o94slrtfmb 4520914 4520913 2025-07-02T06:02:45Z JustTheFacts33 3434282 /* Model */ 4520914 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Warning}}{{clear}} *NOTE: This information appears to not conform with current information *Note: This information is incorrect for 4th Generation JDM Legacys. Subaru uses a '''17-character VIN''' format and code for vehicles sold in the United States. These rules also largely apply to the Saab 9-2x, a badge-engineered Subaru Impreza WRX wagon. ==Subaru VIN code== The following sample is the sequence and meaning of each character in the Subaru VIN: <div class=center> <table class="wikitable" border="1"><caption></caption><tr> <th>Position</th> <th>Sample</th> <th>Description</th> </tr><tr> <td>1</td> <td>J</td> <td rowspan=3>[[#Subaru WMIs|World Manufacturer Identifier]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>2</td> <td>F</td> </tr><tr> <td>3</td> <td>1</td> </tr><tr> <td>4</td> <td>C</td> <td>[[#Line types|Line type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>5</td> <td>X</td> <td>[[#Body styles|Body style]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>6</td> <td>8</td> <td>[[#Engine types|Engine type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>7</td> <td>6</td> <td>[[#Models|Model identifier]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>8</td> <td>5</td> <td>[[#Restraint types|Restraint type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>9</td> <td>9</td> <td>[[../../Check digit/]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>10</td> <td>T</td> <td>[[../../Model year/]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>11</td> <td>H</td> <td>[[#Plants and transmission types|Plant of manufacture & transmission type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>12</td> <td>1</td> <td rowspan=6>Sequential production number </tr><tr> <td>13</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr> <td>14</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr> <td>15</td> <td>2</td> </tr><tr> <td>16</td> <td>1</td> </tr><tr> <td>17</td> <td>6</td> </table> </div> <div class="center"><small>The above serial number describes the following vehicle built in Japan by Fuji Heavy Industries:</small></div> <div class="center"><small>1996 Subaru Alcyone SVX, 3.3L EG33 engine, AWD 4EAT transmission, manual seat belts<br />with driver / passenger airbags. The 216th vehicle produced during the 1996 model year.</small></div> ===Subaru WMIs=== The '''WMI''' is specified in the '''<u>first three</u>''' characters of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !WMI !Country !Description !Vehicle Types |- |JF1 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |Passenger Vehicle |- |JF2 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |MPV |- |JF3 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |truck |- |MMR |Thailand |Tan Chong Subaru Automotive (Thailand) Ltd. | |- |PLP |Malaysia |Tan Chong Motor Assemblies | |- |4S3 |USA |Subaru-Isuzu Automotive /<br>Subaru of Indiana Automotive |Passenger Vehicle |- |4S4 |USA |Subaru-Isuzu Automotive /<br>Subaru of Indiana Automotive |MPV |} MPV means Multi-Purpose Vehicle (station wagon, SUV, van or truck) </div> ===Line type=== The '''line type''' is specified in the '''<u>fourth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |A |STD/DL/GL/GLF/GL-10/RX/Loyale/Brat |- |A |XT/XT6 |- |B |Legacy/Outback/Baja |- |C |SVX |- |G |Subaru Impreza '93-/Impreza WRX '02-'14/XV Crosstrek '13-'15/Crosstrek '16-/Saab 9-2X '05-'06 |- |K |Justy '87-'94 & '95 in Canada |- |S |Forester |- |V |WRX '15- |- |V |Levorg (2nd gen. known as WRX Sportswagon in Australia & WRX wagon in S.E. Asia) (Not sold in North America) |- |W |B9 Tribeca/Tribeca |- |W |Ascent |- |Z |Subaru BRZ/Scion FR-S/Toyota 86/Toyota GR86 |} </div> ===Body style=== The '''body style''' is specified in the '''<u>fifth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |A |'87-'94 Justy 3-Door |- |A |'15-'21 WRX, WRX STi sedan (1st gen.) |- |B |'81-'84 DL/GL 4-door sedan (2nd gen.) |- |B |'22- WRX sedan (2nd gen.) |- |C |'85-'93 DL/GL/GL-10/RX/Turbo/Loyale sedan (3rd gen.) |- |C |'90-'94 Legacy sedan (1st gen.) |- |C |'93-'01 Impreza sedan (1st gen.) |- |C |'13-'20 BRZ coupe (1st gen.) |- |D |'90-'94 Justy 5-Door |- |D |'95-'99 Legacy sedan, '97-'99 Legacy SUS (2nd gen. Legacy) |- |D |'02-'07 Impreza sedan, Impreza WRX sedan (2nd gen.) |- |D |'22- BRZ coupe (2nd gen.) |- |E |'00-'04 Legacy sedan, Outback sedan (3rd gen. Legacy) |- |E |'08-'11 Impreza sedan, '08-'10 Impreza WRX sedan (3rd gen.) |- |F |'81-'89 STD/DL/GL 3-door hatchback (2nd gen.) |- |F |'93-'01 Impreza wagon, '95-'01 Impreza Outback Sport (1st gen.) |- |F |'94 Legacy GT wagon [raised-roof] (1st gen.) |- |F |Wagon: Forester (1st gen.) '98-'02 |- |G |'86-'90 DL/GL/RX/Turbo/Loyale 3-door coupe (3rd gen.) |- |G |'96-'99 Legacy Outback wagon [raised-roof] (2nd gen. Legacy) |- |G |'02-'07 Impreza wagon, Impreza WRX wagon, Impreza Outback Sport (2nd gen.), '05-'06 Saab 9-2X |- |G |Wagon: Forester (2nd gen.) '03-'08 |- |H |'00-'04 Legacy wagon, Outback wagon (3rd gen. Legacy) |- |H |'08-'11 Impreza 5-door hatchback, '08-'11 Impreza Outback Sport, '08-'10 Impreza WRX 5-door hatchback (3rd gen.) |- |H |Wagon: Forester (3rd gen.) '09-'13 |- |J |'90-'94 Legacy wagon [non-raised-roof] (1st gen.) |- |J |'12-'16 Impreza sedan (4th gen.) |- |J |Wagon: Forester (4th gen.) '14-'18 |- |K |'89-'90 GL/GL-10/Turbo/Loyale Touring wagon [raised roof] (3rd gen.) |- |K |'95-'99 Legacy wagon [non-raised-roof] (2nd gen.) |- |K |'17-'23 Impreza sedan (5th gen.) |- |K |Wagon: Forester (5th gen.) '19-'24, Forester Wilderness '22-'25 |- |L |'05-'09 Legacy sedan, '05-'07 Outback sedan (4th gen. Legacy) |- |L |Wagon: Forester (6th gen.) '25-, Forester Wilderness '26- |- |M |'81-'84 DL/GL 4-door wagon (2nd gen.) |- |M |'95-'01 Impreza coupe (1st gen.) |- |M |'10-'14 Legacy sedan (5th gen.) |- |M |'19- Ascent (1st gen.) |- |M |Levorg wagon (1st gen.) (Not sold in North America) |- |N |'85-'94 DL/GL/GL-10/Turbo/Loyale wagon (3rd gen.) |- |N |'13-'16 Scion FR-S, '17-'20 Toyota 86, '22- Toyota GR86 coupe |- |N |'15-'19 Legacy sedan (6th gen.) |- |N |Levorg wagon (WRX Sportswagon in Australia/WRX wagon in S.E. Asia) (2nd gen.) (Not sold in North America) |- |P |'05-'07 (& '08-'09 in Canada) Legacy wagon, '05-'09 Outback wagon (4th gen. Legacy) |- |P |'12-'16 Impreza 5-door hatchback (4th gen.), '13-'15 XV Crosstrek, '16-'17 Crosstrek (1st gen.) |- |R |Brat 1981 (1st gen.) |- |R |'08-'14 Impreza WRX STi 5-door hatchback [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |R |'11-'14 Impreza WRX 5-door hatchback [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |R |'10-'14 Outback wagon |- |S |'15-'19 Outback Wagon |- |T |Brat 1982-1985 (2nd gen.) |- |T |'03-'06 Baja |- |T |'17-'23 Impreza 5-door hatchback (5th gen.), '18-'23 Crosstrek (2nd gen.) |- |T |'20-'25 Outback Wagon |- |U |Brat 1986-1987 (2nd gen.) |- |U |'24- Impreza 5-door hatchback (6th gen.), '24- Crosstrek (3rd gen.) |- |V |'11-'14 Impreza WRX, WRX STi sedan [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |W |'81-'84 DL/GL/GLF 2-door hardtop coupe (2nd gen.) |- |W |'20-'25 Legacy sedan (7th gen.) |- |X |'85-'91 XT/XT6 coupe |- |X |'92-'97 SVX coupe |- |X |'06-'07 B9 Tribeca, '08-'14 Tribeca |} </div> ===Engine type=== The '''engine type''' is specified in the '''<u>sixth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" |+Position 6 !VIN code !Engine !Application |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FA20D flat-4 (Toyota 4U-GSE).<br> Toyota D-4S Direct/Port injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru BRZ '13-'20, Toyota Scion FR-S '13-'16, Toyota 86 '17-'20 |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20B flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza '12-'16 (except WRX models), XV Crosstrek '13-'15,<br> Crosstrek '16-'17 |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza '17-'23, Impreza Base, Sport '24-'25,<br> Crosstrek Base '18-'25, Premium '18-'24, Limited '18-'20 |- |A |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Forester '19-'24, Forester Wilderness '22-'25, Legacy '20-'25,<br> Outback '20-'25 |- |A |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA24F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Ascent '19-'25, WRX '22-'25 |- |B |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20X flat-4 + 1 electric motor.<br> Nickel-metal hydride Battery Pack. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru XV Crosstrek Hybrid '14-'15, Crosstrek Hybrid '16 |- |B |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve FA24D flat-4. Toyota D-4S Direct/Port injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru BRZ '22-'25, Toyota GR86 '22-'25 |- |D |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20V flat-4 + 2 electric motors. Lithium-ion battery pack. Direct injection. Dual VVT. Atkinson cycle. |Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid ([[w:PHEV|PHEV]]) '19-'23 |- |D |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Forester '25 (except Wilderness), '26 |- |G |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA24F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Legacy XT '20-'25, Legacy Sport '23-'25,<br> Outback XT '20-'25, Outback Wilderness '22-'25 |- |H |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza RS '24-'25,<br> Crosstrek Sport '21-'25, Limited '21-'25, Wilderness '24-'25, Premium '25- |- |S |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4 + 2 electric motors. Lithium-ion battery pack. Direct injection. Dual VVT. Atkinson cycle. |Subaru Forester Hybrid '25-'26 |- |1 |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA20F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX '15-'21 |- |2 |1.6L OHV, 8-valve EA71 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 2WD. |Subaru Standard Hatchback 2wd '87, GL Hatchback 2wd w/man. trans. '87 |- |2 |1.8L SOHC, 16-valve EJ18 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza (all models) '93-'94, Impreza Base, L 1.8, Outback Sport 1.8 '95 |- |2 |1.8L SOHC, 16-valve EJ18 flat-4. MPI. AWD. |Subaru Impreza Brighton '96-'97 |- |2 |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ205 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza WRX '02-'05, Saab 9-2X Aero '05 |- |2 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX STi '15-'21, STi S209 '19 |- |3 |3.3L DOHC, 24-valve EG33 flat-6. MPI. |Subaru SVX '92-'95 |- |3 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. FWD. |Subaru Legacy L '96 |- |3 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX STi Type RA '18 |- |4 |1.8L OHV, 8-valve EA81 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 2WD. |Subaru GL Hatchback 2wd w/auto. trans. '87, GL Hatchback 2wd '88-'89 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. TBI. 2WD. |Subaru DL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 2wd '88-'89, GL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 2wd '88-'89, GL-10 sedan, wagon 2wd '88, Loyale 2wd '90-'93 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. MPI. 2WD. |Subaru XT coupe 2wd '85-'91 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 2WD. |Subaru GL Turbo 2wd 3-d coupe '87, GL Turbo 2wd sedan '87, GL Turbo 2wd wagon '87, GL-10 Turbo 2wd sedan '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 2wd wagon '87-'89, Loyale Turbo 2wd '90, XT coupe Turbo 2wd '85-'87 |- |4 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. AWD. |Subaru Impreza L '96-'01, LX '96, Impreza Outback Sport '96-'01,<br> Legacy Brighton, L '96-'99, LS '96, Outback '96 |- |5 |1.8L OHV, 8-valve EA81 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 4WD. |Subaru GL Hatchback 4wd '87-'89, Brat GL 4wd '87 |- |5 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. TBI. 4WD. |Subaru DL wagon 4wd '88-'89, GL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 4wd '88-'89, Loyale 4wd '90-'94 |- |5 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 4WD. |Subaru RX Turbo 4wd 3-d coupe '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd sedan '88-'89, RX Turbo 4wd sedan '87-'88, GL Turbo 4wd wagon '88-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon '88-'89, Loyale Turbo 4wd '90 |- |6 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza L 2.2 '95, LX '95, Impreza Outback Sport 2.2 '95, Legacy '90-'95 |- |6 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve turbo EJ22T flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Legacy Sport Sedan '91-'94, [LE] Touring Wagon '92-'94 |- |6 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve EJ25D flat-4 (Phase I). MPI. |Subaru Impreza 2.5RS '98, Forester '98, Legacy 2.5GT '96-'99, LSi '96-'97,<br> SUS '97-'99, Outback '96-'99 |- |6 |2.5L SOHC, 16-valve EJ253 flat-4 (Phase II). MPI. |Subaru Impreza 2.5RS '99-'01, Impreza (except WRX) '02-'05,<br> Impreza Outback Sport '02-'05, Forester '99-'05, Legacy '00-'05,<br> Outback '00-'05, Baja Base '03, Sport '03-'06, Saab 9-2X Linear '05 |- |6 |2.5L SOHC, 16-valve EJ253 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVL. |Subaru Impreza (except WRX) '06-'11, Subaru Impreza Outback Sport '06-'11, Forester '06-'10, Legacy '06-'09, Outback '06-'09, Saab 9-2X 2.5i '06 |- |6 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ255 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVT. |Subaru Forester XT '04-'10, Legacy GT '05-'09, Outback XT '05-'09,<br> Baja Turbo '04-'06 |- |7 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. 2-bbl. carb. 2wd. |Subaru Justy '87-'89, Justy DL '90-'92 |- |7 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. MPI. 2wd. |Subaru Justy GL '90-'94, Justy DL '93-'94 |- |7 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 4WD w/ air suspension. |Subaru GL-10 Turbo 4wd sedan '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon w/auto. trans. '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon w/man. trans. '88, XT coupe Turbo 4wd '85-'89 |- |7 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ255 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVT. |Subaru Impreza WRX '06-'14, Impreza WRX STi '04-'07, Impreza 2.5GT '09-'10,<br> Saab 9-2X Aero '06 |- |8 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. 2-bbl. carb. 4wd. |Subaru Justy GL 4wd '88-'89 |- |8 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. MPI. 4wd. |Subaru Justy GL 4wd '90-'94 |- |8 |2.7L SOHC, 12-valve ER27 flat-6. MPI. FWD. |Subaru XT6 '88-'91 |- |8 |3.3L DOHC, 24-valve EG33 flat-6. MPI. AWD. |Subaru SVX '96-'97 |- |8 |3.0L DOHC, 24-valve EZ30D flat-6. MPI. Intake VVT & VVL. |Subaru Legacy 3.0R '08-'09, Outback H6-3.0 '01-'04, Outback 3.0R '05-'09,<br> B9 Tribeca '06-'07 |- |8 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza WRX STi '08-'14 |- |9 |2.7L SOHC, 12-valve ER27 flat-6. MPI. AWD. |Subaru XT6 '88-'91 |- |9 |3.6L DOHC, 24-valve EZ36D flat-6. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Tribeca '08-'14 |} <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |1300cc - 1989; 1800cc FWD 1996 |- |2 |1600cc - 1989; 1800cc Impreza 1993-95; 1800cc Impreza AWD 1996-97; 2000cc AWD Turbo 2002-05 |- |3 |1600 4WD - 1989; 3300cc FWD/AWD 1992-1995; 2200cc FWD 1996-99 |- |4 |1800cc 1985-94; 2200cc AWD 1996-2000; FB 1600cc DIT AWD 2015+ |- |5 |1800cc 4WD w/out air susp - 1988, 1989; 1800cc 4WD 1990-94 2000cc 2004- |- |6 |2200cc 1990; 2200cc FWD/AWD 1991-95; 2200cc AWD (Ghost); 2500cc AWD 1996-2000; 2500cc AWD |- |7 |1800cc 4WD w/ air susp; 2200cc FWD 1989-94; 2500cc AWD Turbo |- |8 |2500cc FWD; 1200cc 4WD 1991; 1200cc AWD 1992-94; 3000cc 2001-2009; 3300cc FWD/AWD 1996-97 |- |9 |2500cc 4WD w/ & w/out air susp 1989-91; 3600cc 2008-up |- |A |2400cc AWD |- |D |2000cc DOHC Turbo Diesel |} </div> ===Model=== The '''model''' is identified in the '''<u>seventh</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |Standard model '81-'87, Loyale RS 3-door coupe (non-Turbo) '90 |- |1 |Base |- |2 |DL '81-'89, Loyale (non-Turbo) '90-'94, Brat DL '81-'83, Justy DL '87-'94, XT coupe DL '85-'88 |- |2 |Legacy Base model '90, Brighton |- |3 |GL '81-'89, Brat GL '81-'87, Justy GL '87-'94, Justy RS '88-'89, XT coupe GL '85-'89, '91 |- |3 |Legacy L '90-'94, Legacy Sun Sport, Alpine Sport, Outdoor, & GT wagons '94 |- |4 |GLF '81-'82, GL-10 '85-'89, XT6 coupe '88-'89, '91 |- |4 |Legacy LS '90, 2.5GT with cloth |- |5 |GL Turbo (except '87 4wd wagon) '83-'87, GL-10 Turbo '86-'89, Brat GL Turbo '83-'84, XT coupe GL-10 Turbo '85-'87 |- |5 |Legacy LS "Special" '90, Legacy LS '91-'94, Legacy LSi '91-'94 |- |6 |RX Turbo '85-'89 |- |6 |LSi, Outback base |- |7 |GL Turbo 4wd wagon '87-'89, Loyale Turbo '90, Loyale RS Turbo 3-door coupe '90 |- |7 |Legacy Sport Sedan '91-'94, Legacy [LE] Touring Wagon '92-'94, GT/RS, Outback AWP |- |8 |Outback Limited Wagon/SUS |- |9 |Postal Vehicle/WRX/Outback VDC |- |0 |Outback L.L. Bean |- |K |STI WRX/Legacy/Outback |- |L |Outback |- |P |Ascent |- |V |XV Crosstrek |} </div> ===Restraint Type (Passenger) or Weight Class (MPV)=== The '''restraint type''', for passenger vehicles, or the weight class (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating), for MPVs, is specified in the '''<u>eighth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |No Passive Restraint |- |2 |Automatic Seat Belt w/o Air Bag |- |3 |Automatic Seat Belt w/ Air Bag |- |4 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Air Bag 1993-94; Automatic Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags |- |5 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags |- |6 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags and Side Air Bags |- |A |Class A (GVWR 3000 lbs. or less) |- |B |Class B (GVWR 3001-4000 lbs.) |- |C |Class C (GVWR 4001-5000 lbs.) |- |D |Class D (GVWR 5001-6000 lbs.) |} </div> The '''Check Digit''' is identified in the '''<u>ninth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN The '''Model Year''' is identified in the '''<u>tenth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN Letters began being reused in 2010. <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |2001 |- |2 |2002 |- |3 |2003 |- |4 |2004 |- |5 |2005 |- |6 |2006 |- |7 |2007 |- |8 |2008 |- |9 |2009 |- |A |1980, 2010 |- |B |1981, 2011 |- |C |1982, 2012 |- |D |1983, 2013 |- |E |1984, 2014 |- |F |1985, 2015 |- |G |1986, 2016 |- |H |1987, 2017 |- |I |not used |- |J |1988, 2018 |- |K |1989, 2019 |- |L |1990, 2020 |- |M |1991, 2021 |- |N |1992, 2022 |- |P |1993, 2023 |- |R |1994, 2024 |- |S |1995, 2025 |- |T |1996, 2026 |- |V |1997 |- |W |1998 |- |X |1999 |- |Y |2000 |} </div> ===Plants and transmission type=== The '''assembly plant''' and '''transmission type''' is specified in the '''<u>eleventh</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Plant !Transmission |- |1 |SIA |FWD 5MT |- |3 |SIA |Full-time AWD 6MT/AT |- |4 |SIA |Full-time AWD 5AT |- |5 |SIA |Sport Shift Automatic |- |6 |SIA |Full-time AWD 5MT |- |7 |SIA |Full-time AWD 4EAT |- |8 |SIA |Full-time AWD 4EAT (Postal RHD) |- |9 |SIA |FWD 4EAT |- |A |FHI |FWD 4MT |- |B |FHI |FWD 5MT |- |C |FHI |FWD 3AT/ECVT |- |D |FHI |On-demand AWD 5MT |- |E |FHI | 4spd 4wd Dual Range MT 81-84, 85-89 Hatchback, 85-89 Brat. 5spd 4wd dual range MT 85-89 |- |F |FHI |On-demand AWD 3AT |- |G |FHI |Full-time AWD 6MT. Full-time AWD CVT. |- |H |FHI |Full-time AWD 4EAT |- |K |FHI |FWD 4EAT |- |L |FHI |Full-time AWD 6MT |- |P |FHI |Full-time AWD 4EAT (Postal RHD) |} </div> ** SIA = Subaru-Isuzu Automotive (now known as Subaru of Indiana Automotive), Lafayette, Indiana ** FHI = Fuji Heavy Industries, Gunma, Japan The '''Vehicle Production Sequence''' number is specified in the '''<u>twelfth - seventeenth</u>''' characters of the Subaru VIN ** 100000 and after - Legacy Sedan SUS (Jan 98 - May 98) ** 210001 and after - Legacy Sedan ** 310001 and after - Legacy Station Wagon ** 410001 and after - Impreza Coupe; Ascent ** 510001 and after - Impreza Sedan ** 610001 and after - Legacy Station Wagon Outback ** 710001 and after - Forester Wagon ** 810001 and after - Impreza Sports Wagon ==External links== Online [http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Subaru Subaru VIN decoder] Online [www.auto-vin-decoder.com Universal VIN decoder] {{BookCat}} qmb2xvaqobmk6fftqgkk6wrw035l1ud 4520915 4520914 2025-07-02T07:17:35Z JustTheFacts33 3434282 /* Model */ 4520915 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Warning}}{{clear}} *NOTE: This information appears to not conform with current information *Note: This information is incorrect for 4th Generation JDM Legacys. Subaru uses a '''17-character VIN''' format and code for vehicles sold in the United States. These rules also largely apply to the Saab 9-2x, a badge-engineered Subaru Impreza WRX wagon. ==Subaru VIN code== The following sample is the sequence and meaning of each character in the Subaru VIN: <div class=center> <table class="wikitable" border="1"><caption></caption><tr> <th>Position</th> <th>Sample</th> <th>Description</th> </tr><tr> <td>1</td> <td>J</td> <td rowspan=3>[[#Subaru WMIs|World Manufacturer Identifier]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>2</td> <td>F</td> </tr><tr> <td>3</td> <td>1</td> </tr><tr> <td>4</td> <td>C</td> <td>[[#Line types|Line type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>5</td> <td>X</td> <td>[[#Body styles|Body style]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>6</td> <td>8</td> <td>[[#Engine types|Engine type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>7</td> <td>6</td> <td>[[#Models|Model identifier]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>8</td> <td>5</td> <td>[[#Restraint types|Restraint type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>9</td> <td>9</td> <td>[[../../Check digit/]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>10</td> <td>T</td> <td>[[../../Model year/]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>11</td> <td>H</td> <td>[[#Plants and transmission types|Plant of manufacture & transmission type]]</td> </tr><tr> <td>12</td> <td>1</td> <td rowspan=6>Sequential production number </tr><tr> <td>13</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr> <td>14</td> <td>0</td> </tr><tr> <td>15</td> <td>2</td> </tr><tr> <td>16</td> <td>1</td> </tr><tr> <td>17</td> <td>6</td> </table> </div> <div class="center"><small>The above serial number describes the following vehicle built in Japan by Fuji Heavy Industries:</small></div> <div class="center"><small>1996 Subaru Alcyone SVX, 3.3L EG33 engine, AWD 4EAT transmission, manual seat belts<br />with driver / passenger airbags. The 216th vehicle produced during the 1996 model year.</small></div> ===Subaru WMIs=== The '''WMI''' is specified in the '''<u>first three</u>''' characters of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !WMI !Country !Description !Vehicle Types |- |JF1 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |Passenger Vehicle |- |JF2 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |MPV |- |JF3 |Japan |Fuji Heavy Industries |truck |- |MMR |Thailand |Tan Chong Subaru Automotive (Thailand) Ltd. | |- |PLP |Malaysia |Tan Chong Motor Assemblies | |- |4S3 |USA |Subaru-Isuzu Automotive /<br>Subaru of Indiana Automotive |Passenger Vehicle |- |4S4 |USA |Subaru-Isuzu Automotive /<br>Subaru of Indiana Automotive |MPV |} MPV means Multi-Purpose Vehicle (station wagon, SUV, van or truck) </div> ===Line type=== The '''line type''' is specified in the '''<u>fourth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |A |STD/DL/GL/GLF/GL-10/RX/Loyale/Brat |- |A |XT/XT6 |- |B |Legacy/Outback/Baja |- |C |SVX |- |G |Subaru Impreza '93-/Impreza WRX '02-'14/XV Crosstrek '13-'15/Crosstrek '16-/Saab 9-2X '05-'06 |- |K |Justy '87-'94 & '95 in Canada |- |S |Forester |- |V |WRX '15- |- |V |Levorg (2nd gen. known as WRX Sportswagon in Australia & WRX wagon in S.E. Asia) (Not sold in North America) |- |W |B9 Tribeca/Tribeca |- |W |Ascent |- |Z |Subaru BRZ/Scion FR-S/Toyota 86/Toyota GR86 |} </div> ===Body style=== The '''body style''' is specified in the '''<u>fifth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |A |'87-'94 Justy 3-Door |- |A |'15-'21 WRX, WRX STi sedan (1st gen.) |- |B |'81-'84 DL/GL 4-door sedan (2nd gen.) |- |B |'22- WRX sedan (2nd gen.) |- |C |'85-'93 DL/GL/GL-10/RX/Turbo/Loyale sedan (3rd gen.) |- |C |'90-'94 Legacy sedan (1st gen.) |- |C |'93-'01 Impreza sedan (1st gen.) |- |C |'13-'20 BRZ coupe (1st gen.) |- |D |'90-'94 Justy 5-Door |- |D |'95-'99 Legacy sedan, '97-'99 Legacy SUS (2nd gen. Legacy) |- |D |'02-'07 Impreza sedan, Impreza WRX sedan (2nd gen.) |- |D |'22- BRZ coupe (2nd gen.) |- |E |'00-'04 Legacy sedan, Outback sedan (3rd gen. Legacy) |- |E |'08-'11 Impreza sedan, '08-'10 Impreza WRX sedan (3rd gen.) |- |F |'81-'89 STD/DL/GL 3-door hatchback (2nd gen.) |- |F |'93-'01 Impreza wagon, '95-'01 Impreza Outback Sport (1st gen.) |- |F |'94 Legacy GT wagon [raised-roof] (1st gen.) |- |F |Wagon: Forester (1st gen.) '98-'02 |- |G |'86-'90 DL/GL/RX/Turbo/Loyale 3-door coupe (3rd gen.) |- |G |'96-'99 Legacy Outback wagon [raised-roof] (2nd gen. Legacy) |- |G |'02-'07 Impreza wagon, Impreza WRX wagon, Impreza Outback Sport (2nd gen.), '05-'06 Saab 9-2X |- |G |Wagon: Forester (2nd gen.) '03-'08 |- |H |'00-'04 Legacy wagon, Outback wagon (3rd gen. Legacy) |- |H |'08-'11 Impreza 5-door hatchback, '08-'11 Impreza Outback Sport, '08-'10 Impreza WRX 5-door hatchback (3rd gen.) |- |H |Wagon: Forester (3rd gen.) '09-'13 |- |J |'90-'94 Legacy wagon [non-raised-roof] (1st gen.) |- |J |'12-'16 Impreza sedan (4th gen.) |- |J |Wagon: Forester (4th gen.) '14-'18 |- |K |'89-'90 GL/GL-10/Turbo/Loyale Touring wagon [raised roof] (3rd gen.) |- |K |'95-'99 Legacy wagon [non-raised-roof] (2nd gen.) |- |K |'17-'23 Impreza sedan (5th gen.) |- |K |Wagon: Forester (5th gen.) '19-'24, Forester Wilderness '22-'25 |- |L |'05-'09 Legacy sedan, '05-'07 Outback sedan (4th gen. Legacy) |- |L |Wagon: Forester (6th gen.) '25-, Forester Wilderness '26- |- |M |'81-'84 DL/GL 4-door wagon (2nd gen.) |- |M |'95-'01 Impreza coupe (1st gen.) |- |M |'10-'14 Legacy sedan (5th gen.) |- |M |'19- Ascent (1st gen.) |- |M |Levorg wagon (1st gen.) (Not sold in North America) |- |N |'85-'94 DL/GL/GL-10/Turbo/Loyale wagon (3rd gen.) |- |N |'13-'16 Scion FR-S, '17-'20 Toyota 86, '22- Toyota GR86 coupe |- |N |'15-'19 Legacy sedan (6th gen.) |- |N |Levorg wagon (WRX Sportswagon in Australia/WRX wagon in S.E. Asia) (2nd gen.) (Not sold in North America) |- |P |'05-'07 (& '08-'09 in Canada) Legacy wagon, '05-'09 Outback wagon (4th gen. Legacy) |- |P |'12-'16 Impreza 5-door hatchback (4th gen.), '13-'15 XV Crosstrek, '16-'17 Crosstrek (1st gen.) |- |R |Brat 1981 (1st gen.) |- |R |'08-'14 Impreza WRX STi 5-door hatchback [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |R |'11-'14 Impreza WRX 5-door hatchback [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |R |'10-'14 Outback wagon |- |S |'15-'19 Outback Wagon |- |T |Brat 1982-1985 (2nd gen.) |- |T |'03-'06 Baja |- |T |'17-'23 Impreza 5-door hatchback (5th gen.), '18-'23 Crosstrek (2nd gen.) |- |T |'20-'25 Outback Wagon |- |U |Brat 1986-1987 (2nd gen.) |- |U |'24- Impreza 5-door hatchback (6th gen.), '24- Crosstrek (3rd gen.) |- |V |'11-'14 Impreza WRX, WRX STi sedan [widebody] (3rd gen.) |- |W |'81-'84 DL/GL/GLF 2-door hardtop coupe (2nd gen.) |- |W |'20-'25 Legacy sedan (7th gen.) |- |X |'85-'91 XT/XT6 coupe |- |X |'92-'97 SVX coupe |- |X |'06-'07 B9 Tribeca, '08-'14 Tribeca |} </div> ===Engine type=== The '''engine type''' is specified in the '''<u>sixth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" |+Position 6 !VIN code !Engine !Application |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FA20D flat-4 (Toyota 4U-GSE).<br> Toyota D-4S Direct/Port injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru BRZ '13-'20, Toyota Scion FR-S '13-'16, Toyota 86 '17-'20 |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20B flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza '12-'16 (except WRX models), XV Crosstrek '13-'15,<br> Crosstrek '16-'17 |- |A |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza '17-'23, Impreza Base, Sport '24-'25,<br> Crosstrek Base '18-'25, Premium '18-'24, Limited '18-'20 |- |A |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Forester '19-'24, Forester Wilderness '22-'25, Legacy '20-'25,<br> Outback '20-'25 |- |A |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA24F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Ascent '19-'25, WRX '22-'25 |- |B |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20X flat-4 + 1 electric motor.<br> Nickel-metal hydride Battery Pack. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru XV Crosstrek Hybrid '14-'15, Crosstrek Hybrid '16 |- |B |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve FA24D flat-4. Toyota D-4S Direct/Port injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru BRZ '22-'25, Toyota GR86 '22-'25 |- |D |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve FB20V flat-4 + 2 electric motors. Lithium-ion battery pack. Direct injection. Dual VVT. Atkinson cycle. |Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid ([[w:PHEV|PHEV]]) '19-'23 |- |D |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Forester '25 (except Wilderness), '26 |- |G |2.4L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA24F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Legacy XT '20-'25, Legacy Sport '23-'25,<br> Outback XT '20-'25, Outback Wilderness '22-'25 |- |H |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza RS '24-'25,<br> Crosstrek Sport '21-'25, Limited '21-'25, Wilderness '24-'25, Premium '25- |- |S |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve FB25D flat-4 + 2 electric motors. Lithium-ion battery pack. Direct injection. Dual VVT. Atkinson cycle. |Subaru Forester Hybrid '25-'26 |- |1 |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled FA20F flat-4. Direct injection. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX '15-'21 |- |2 |1.6L OHV, 8-valve EA71 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 2WD. |Subaru Standard Hatchback 2wd '87, GL Hatchback 2wd w/man. trans. '87 |- |2 |1.8L SOHC, 16-valve EJ18 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza (all models) '93-'94, Impreza Base, L 1.8, Outback Sport 1.8 '95 |- |2 |1.8L SOHC, 16-valve EJ18 flat-4. MPI. AWD. |Subaru Impreza Brighton '96-'97 |- |2 |2.0L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ205 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza WRX '02-'05, Saab 9-2X Aero '05 |- |2 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX STi '15-'21, STi S209 '19 |- |3 |3.3L DOHC, 24-valve EG33 flat-6. MPI. |Subaru SVX '92-'95 |- |3 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. FWD. |Subaru Legacy L '96 |- |3 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru WRX STi Type RA '18 |- |4 |1.8L OHV, 8-valve EA81 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 2WD. |Subaru GL Hatchback 2wd w/auto. trans. '87, GL Hatchback 2wd '88-'89 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. TBI. 2WD. |Subaru DL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 2wd '88-'89, GL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 2wd '88-'89, GL-10 sedan, wagon 2wd '88, Loyale 2wd '90-'93 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. MPI. 2WD. |Subaru XT coupe 2wd '85-'91 |- |4 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 2WD. |Subaru GL Turbo 2wd 3-d coupe '87, GL Turbo 2wd sedan '87, GL Turbo 2wd wagon '87, GL-10 Turbo 2wd sedan '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 2wd wagon '87-'89, Loyale Turbo 2wd '90, XT coupe Turbo 2wd '85-'87 |- |4 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. AWD. |Subaru Impreza L '96-'01, LX '96, Impreza Outback Sport '96-'01,<br> Legacy Brighton, L '96-'99, LS '96, Outback '96 |- |5 |1.8L OHV, 8-valve EA81 flat-4. 2-bbl. carb. 4WD. |Subaru GL Hatchback 4wd '87-'89, Brat GL 4wd '87 |- |5 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve EA82 flat-4. TBI. 4WD. |Subaru DL wagon 4wd '88-'89, GL 3-d coupe, sedan, wagon 4wd '88-'89, Loyale 4wd '90-'94 |- |5 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 4WD. |Subaru RX Turbo 4wd 3-d coupe '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd sedan '88-'89, RX Turbo 4wd sedan '87-'88, GL Turbo 4wd wagon '88-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon '88-'89, Loyale Turbo 4wd '90 |- |6 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve EJ22 flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Impreza L 2.2 '95, LX '95, Impreza Outback Sport 2.2 '95, Legacy '90-'95 |- |6 |2.2L SOHC, 16-valve turbo EJ22T flat-4. MPI. |Subaru Legacy Sport Sedan '91-'94, [LE] Touring Wagon '92-'94 |- |6 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve EJ25D flat-4 (Phase I). MPI. |Subaru Impreza 2.5RS '98, Forester '98, Legacy 2.5GT '96-'99, LSi '96-'97,<br> SUS '97-'99, Outback '96-'99 |- |6 |2.5L SOHC, 16-valve EJ253 flat-4 (Phase II). MPI. |Subaru Impreza 2.5RS '99-'01, Impreza (except WRX) '02-'05,<br> Impreza Outback Sport '02-'05, Forester '99-'05, Legacy '00-'05,<br> Outback '00-'05, Baja Base '03, Sport '03-'06, Saab 9-2X Linear '05 |- |6 |2.5L SOHC, 16-valve EJ253 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVL. |Subaru Impreza (except WRX) '06-'11, Subaru Impreza Outback Sport '06-'11, Forester '06-'10, Legacy '06-'09, Outback '06-'09, Saab 9-2X 2.5i '06 |- |6 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ255 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVT. |Subaru Forester XT '04-'10, Legacy GT '05-'09, Outback XT '05-'09,<br> Baja Turbo '04-'06 |- |7 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. 2-bbl. carb. 2wd. |Subaru Justy '87-'89, Justy DL '90-'92 |- |7 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. MPI. 2wd. |Subaru Justy GL '90-'94, Justy DL '93-'94 |- |7 |1.8L SOHC, 8-valve turbo EA82T flat-4. MPI. 4WD w/ air suspension. |Subaru GL-10 Turbo 4wd sedan '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon w/auto. trans. '87-'89, GL-10 Turbo 4wd wagon w/man. trans. '88, XT coupe Turbo 4wd '85-'89 |- |7 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ255 flat-4. MPI. Intake VVT. |Subaru Impreza WRX '06-'14, Impreza WRX STi '04-'07, Impreza 2.5GT '09-'10,<br> Saab 9-2X Aero '06 |- |8 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. 2-bbl. carb. 4wd. |Subaru Justy GL 4wd '88-'89 |- |8 |1.2L SOHC, 9-valve EF12 I3. MPI. 4wd. |Subaru Justy GL 4wd '90-'94 |- |8 |2.7L SOHC, 12-valve ER27 flat-6. MPI. FWD. |Subaru XT6 '88-'91 |- |8 |3.3L DOHC, 24-valve EG33 flat-6. MPI. AWD. |Subaru SVX '96-'97 |- |8 |3.0L DOHC, 24-valve EZ30D flat-6. MPI. Intake VVT & VVL. |Subaru Legacy 3.0R '08-'09, Outback H6-3.0 '01-'04, Outback 3.0R '05-'09,<br> B9 Tribeca '06-'07 |- |8 |2.5L DOHC, 16-valve turbo/intercooled EJ257 flat-4. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Impreza WRX STi '08-'14 |- |9 |2.7L SOHC, 12-valve ER27 flat-6. MPI. AWD. |Subaru XT6 '88-'91 |- |9 |3.6L DOHC, 24-valve EZ36D flat-6. MPI. Dual VVT. |Subaru Tribeca '08-'14 |} <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |1300cc - 1989; 1800cc FWD 1996 |- |2 |1600cc - 1989; 1800cc Impreza 1993-95; 1800cc Impreza AWD 1996-97; 2000cc AWD Turbo 2002-05 |- |3 |1600 4WD - 1989; 3300cc FWD/AWD 1992-1995; 2200cc FWD 1996-99 |- |4 |1800cc 1985-94; 2200cc AWD 1996-2000; FB 1600cc DIT AWD 2015+ |- |5 |1800cc 4WD w/out air susp - 1988, 1989; 1800cc 4WD 1990-94 2000cc 2004- |- |6 |2200cc 1990; 2200cc FWD/AWD 1991-95; 2200cc AWD (Ghost); 2500cc AWD 1996-2000; 2500cc AWD |- |7 |1800cc 4WD w/ air susp; 2200cc FWD 1989-94; 2500cc AWD Turbo |- |8 |2500cc FWD; 1200cc 4WD 1991; 1200cc AWD 1992-94; 3000cc 2001-2009; 3300cc FWD/AWD 1996-97 |- |9 |2500cc 4WD w/ & w/out air susp 1989-91; 3600cc 2008-up |- |A |2400cc AWD |- |D |2000cc DOHC Turbo Diesel |} </div> ===Model=== The '''model''' is identified in the '''<u>seventh</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |Standard model '81-'87, Loyale RS 3-door coupe (non-Turbo) '90 |- |1 |Base |- |2 |DL '81-'89, Loyale (non-Turbo) '90-'94, Brat DL '81-'83, Justy DL '87-'94, XT coupe DL '85-'88 |- |2 |Legacy Base model '90, Brighton |- |2 |SVX L Early '94 (has motorized seatbelts & driver-side airbag) |- |3 |GL '81-'89, Brat GL '81-'87, Justy GL '87-'94, Justy RS '88-'89, XT coupe GL '85-'89, '91 |- |3 |Legacy L '90-'94, Legacy Sun Sport, Alpine Sport, Outdoor, & GT wagons '94 |- |3 |SVX L '94-'97 (has manual seatbelts & dual airbags) |- |4 |GLF '81-'82, GL-10 '85-'89, XT6 coupe '88-'89, '91 |- |4 |Legacy LS '90, 2.5GT with cloth |- |4 |SVX LS '92, '94 |- |5 |GL Turbo (except '87 4wd wagon) '83-'87, GL-10 Turbo '86-'89, Brat GL Turbo '83-'84, XT coupe GL-10 Turbo '85-'87 |- |5 |Legacy LS "Special" '90, Legacy LS '91-'94, Legacy LSi '91-'94 |- |5 |SVX LS-L (LS w/Touring Package) '92-'93, SVX LSi Awd '94-'95 |- |6 |RX Turbo '85-'89 |- |6 |LSi, Outback base |- |6 |SVX LSi '96-'97 |- |7 |GL Turbo 4wd wagon '87-'89, Loyale Turbo '90, Loyale RS Turbo 3-door coupe '90 |- |7 |Legacy Sport Sedan '91-'94, Legacy [LE] Touring Wagon '92-'94, GT/RS, Outback AWP |- |8 |Outback Limited Wagon/SUS |- |9 |Postal Vehicle/WRX/Outback VDC |- |0 |Outback L.L. Bean |- |K |STI WRX/Legacy/Outback |- |L |Outback |- |P |Ascent |- |V |XV Crosstrek |} </div> ===Restraint Type (Passenger) or Weight Class (MPV)=== The '''restraint type''', for passenger vehicles, or the weight class (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating), for MPVs, is specified in the '''<u>eighth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |No Passive Restraint |- |2 |Automatic Seat Belt w/o Air Bag |- |3 |Automatic Seat Belt w/ Air Bag |- |4 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Air Bag 1993-94; Automatic Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags |- |5 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags |- |6 |Manual Seat Belt w/ Driver/Passenger Air Bags and Side Air Bags |- |A |Class A (GVWR 3000 lbs. or less) |- |B |Class B (GVWR 3001-4000 lbs.) |- |C |Class C (GVWR 4001-5000 lbs.) |- |D |Class D (GVWR 5001-6000 lbs.) |} </div> The '''Check Digit''' is identified in the '''<u>ninth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN The '''Model Year''' is identified in the '''<u>tenth</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN Letters began being reused in 2010. <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Description |- |1 |2001 |- |2 |2002 |- |3 |2003 |- |4 |2004 |- |5 |2005 |- |6 |2006 |- |7 |2007 |- |8 |2008 |- |9 |2009 |- |A |1980, 2010 |- |B |1981, 2011 |- |C |1982, 2012 |- |D |1983, 2013 |- |E |1984, 2014 |- |F |1985, 2015 |- |G |1986, 2016 |- |H |1987, 2017 |- |I |not used |- |J |1988, 2018 |- |K |1989, 2019 |- |L |1990, 2020 |- |M |1991, 2021 |- |N |1992, 2022 |- |P |1993, 2023 |- |R |1994, 2024 |- |S |1995, 2025 |- |T |1996, 2026 |- |V |1997 |- |W |1998 |- |X |1999 |- |Y |2000 |} </div> ===Plants and transmission type=== The '''assembly plant''' and '''transmission type''' is specified in the '''<u>eleventh</u>''' character of the Subaru VIN <div class="center"> {| class="wikitable" border="1" |+ !VIN Code !Plant !Transmission |- |1 |SIA |FWD 5MT |- |3 |SIA |Full-time AWD 6MT/AT |- |4 |SIA |Full-time AWD 5AT |- |5 |SIA |Sport Shift Automatic |- |6 |SIA |Full-time AWD 5MT |- |7 |SIA |Full-time AWD 4EAT |- |8 |SIA |Full-time AWD 4EAT (Postal RHD) |- |9 |SIA |FWD 4EAT |- |A |FHI |FWD 4MT |- |B |FHI |FWD 5MT |- |C |FHI |FWD 3AT/ECVT |- |D |FHI |On-demand AWD 5MT |- |E |FHI | 4spd 4wd Dual Range MT 81-84, 85-89 Hatchback, 85-89 Brat. 5spd 4wd dual range MT 85-89 |- |F |FHI |On-demand AWD 3AT |- |G |FHI |Full-time AWD 6MT. Full-time AWD CVT. |- |H |FHI |Full-time AWD 4EAT |- |K |FHI |FWD 4EAT |- |L |FHI |Full-time AWD 6MT |- |P |FHI |Full-time AWD 4EAT (Postal RHD) |} </div> ** SIA = Subaru-Isuzu Automotive (now known as Subaru of Indiana Automotive), Lafayette, Indiana ** FHI = Fuji Heavy Industries, Gunma, Japan The '''Vehicle Production Sequence''' number is specified in the '''<u>twelfth - seventeenth</u>''' characters of the Subaru VIN ** 100000 and after - Legacy Sedan SUS (Jan 98 - May 98) ** 210001 and after - Legacy Sedan ** 310001 and after - Legacy Station Wagon ** 410001 and after - Impreza Coupe; Ascent ** 510001 and after - Impreza Sedan ** 610001 and after - Legacy Station Wagon Outback ** 710001 and after - Forester Wagon ** 810001 and after - Impreza Sports Wagon ==External links== Online [http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Subaru Subaru VIN decoder] Online [www.auto-vin-decoder.com Universal VIN decoder] {{BookCat}} ltmbx79mb2hliiwq0baydo822womo18 Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Mercedes-Benz/VIN Codes 0 142017 4520860 4492429 2025-07-01T20:21:35Z JustTheFacts33 3434282 /* Positions 6–7, Model within the series: */ 4520860 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Warning}}{{clear}} Mercedes-Benz uses the following VIN formats: (Note) This chart is not applicable to Mercedes-Benz products made for markets other than North America. European/World market cars use a different system for encoding VIN numbers. ==1960-1980== Position 1-3 - chassis code (e.g. 107, 116, 123, etc.) Position 4-6 - model type (e.g. 024, 032, 033, 036, 044, 045, etc.) Position 7 - 1=LH Drive (made in Germany), 2=RH Drive (made in Germany), 5=LH Drive CKD, 6=RH Drive CKD (Complete Knocked Down, assembled outside Germany)1 Position 8 - 0=Manual transmission, 1=Hydraulic clutch, 2= Automatic transmission 2 (Alphabetics indicate Plant of Manufacture i.e.: A = Sindelfingen) Position 9-14 - Construction serial number 10704312006193 ==Passenger Vehicles 1981-== ===Positions 1–3, World Manufacturer Identifier:=== * WDB Daimler-Benz AG (DaimlerChrysler after 1998) (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz or Maybach passenger car) * WDC DaimlerChrysler AG (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * WDD DaimlerChrysler AG (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) * W1K Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) * W1N Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * 4JG Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * 55S Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) ===Position 4, Model or Series:=== * A W123 300-Class * B R107 SL-Class * B C107 SLC-Class * C W126/C126 S-Class * D W201 190-Class * E W124 300-Class/E-Class * F R129 SL-Class * G W140/C140 S-Class, C140 CL-Class * H W202 C-Class * J W210 E-Class * K R170 SLK-Class * L C208/A208 CLK-Class * N W220 S-Class * P C215 CL-Class * R W203 C-Class * S R230 SL-Class * T C209/A209 CLK-Class * U W211 E-Class * W R171 SLK-Class *---------------------------------- * A C199/R199/Z199 SLR McLaren * D C219 CLS-Class * E C216 CL-Class * F W245 B-Class (Canada only) * G W204 C-Class * H W212/S212 E-Class sedan/wagon * J R231 SL-Class * K C207/A207 E-Class coupe/convertible * L C218 CLS-Class * M W246 B-Class (Canada only) * N W221 S-Class * P R172 SLK-Class/SLC-Class * R C197/R197 SLS AMG * S C117 CLA-Class * U W222 S-Class sedan * V W240 Maybach 57/62 * V N242 B-Class Electric * W W205 C-Class * X C217/A217 S-Class coupe/convertible * Y C190/R190 AMG GT coupe/roadster * Z W213/S213/X213 E-Class sedan/wagon/All-Terrain wagon * 1 C238/A238 E-Class coupe/convertible * 2 C257 CLS-Class * 3 V177 A-Class sedan * 3 W177 A-Class hatchback (Canada only) * 5 C118 CLA-Class * 6 W223 S-Class sedan * 7 X290 AMG GT 4-door coupe * A W206 C-Class * C V297 EQS-Class sedan * E V295 EQE-Class sedan * L W214/X214 E-Class sedan/All-Terrain wagon * M C236/A236 CLE-Class coupe/convertible * R C192 AMG GT coupe * V R232 SL-Class *---------------------------------- * A W163 M-Class * B W164 M-Class * B X164 GL-Class * C W251 R-Class * D W166 M-Class/GLE-Class * D X166 GL-Class/GLS-Class * D X296 EQS-Class SUV * E C292 GLE-Class Coupe * F W167/C167 GLE-Class * F X167 GLS-Class * G X204 GLK-Class * 0 X253/C253 GLC-Class * G X294 EQE-Class SUV * K X254/C254 GLC-Class * T X156 GLA-Class * Y W463 G-Class * W W465 G-Class * 4 H247 GLA-Class * 4 X247 GLB-Class * 9 X243 EQB-Class ===Position 5, Body Style:=== Passenger Cars: * B = Long Body * F = Sedan ('96+ E-Class, '01+ C-Class, '06 S-Class [S350], Maybach 57) * F = 5-door hatchback (Canada only: '19-'22 A-Class) * G = Sedan Long Wheelbase ('00+ S-Class, Maybach 62) * G = Sedan ('19-'22 A-Class sedan) * H = Wagon ('98-'09, '11- E-Class wagon, '02-'05 C-Class wagon, Canada only: '19-'21 C-Class wagon) * H = "Sedan" [5-door hatchback/compact minivan] ('06-'11, '13-'19 B-Class [gas engine] - Canada only) * J = 2-door Coupe ('98-'09 CLK-Class Coupe, '12-'15, '17-'23 C-Class coupe, '10-'23 E-Class coupe, '24- CLE-Class coupe, '00-'14 CL-Class, '15-'21 S-Class coupe, '05-'07 SLR McLaren coupe, '11-'15 SLS AMG coupe, '16-'21, '24- AMG GT coupe) * J = 4-door Coupe ('06-'23 CLS-Class, '14- CLA-Class) * K = Cabriolet/Roadster ('99-'09 CLK-Class Cabriolet, '17-'23 C-Class Cabriolet, '11-'23 E-Class Cabriolet, '24- CLE-Class Cabriolet, '17-'21 S-Class Cabriolet, '98-'16 SLK-Class, '17-'20 SLC-Class, '03+ SL-Class, '08-'09 SLR McLaren roadster, '12-'15 SLS AMG roadster, '18-'21 AMG GT roadster) * N = "Coupe" [3-door hatchback] ('02-'05 C-Class Sport Coupe) * P = "Sedan" [5-door hatchback/compact minivan] (B-Class Electric) * X = 4-door Coupe [5-door hatchback] ('19- AMG GT 4-door Coupe) SUVs: * A = 4-door MPV ('12-'15 M-Class, '16-'19 GLE-Class wagon) * B = 4-door MPV ('98-'11 M-Class) * B = 4-door MPV ('20-' GLE-Class wagon) * B = 4-door MPV ('06-'13 R-Class) * C = 4-door MPV ('10-'24 G-Class) * D = 4-door MPV ('16-'19, '21- GLE-Class Coupe) * F = 4-door MPV ('07-'16 GL-Class, '17- GLS-Class) * G = 4-door MPV ('10-'15 GLK-Class, '16-'22 GLC-Class wagon) * G = 4-door MPV ('15-'20 GLA-Class) * H = 4-door MPV ('25- G550, G63 AMG) * J = 4-door MPV ('17- GLC-Class Coupe) * M = 4-door MPV ('20- GLB-Class, '22- EQB-Class) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- GLC-Class wagon) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- EQE-Class SUV) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- EQS-Class SUV) * M = 4-door MPV ('25- G580 EQ [EV]) * N = 4-door MPV ('21- GLA-Class) * R = 4-door MPV ('02-'09 G-Class) On older models, this indicated the engine type, through much of the 1990s and into the 2000's for some models: * A = Gasoline (190 Class '84-'93, C-Class '94-'00, 300 Class '81, '86-'93, E-Class '94-'95, S-Class '81-'99, CL-Class '98-'99, SL-Class '81-'02, SLC '81) * B = Diesel (190 Class '84-'89, 300 Class '81-'85, '87, '90-'93, E-Class '95, S-Class '81-'87, '90-'95) * D = 4Matic Gasoline ('90-'93 300E 4Matic, 300TE 4Matic) * M = AMG Gasoline ('95-'97 C36 AMG only) ===Positions 6–7, Model within the series:=== '''V177:'''<br> *4E = A220 sedan ['19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4F = A220 4Matic sedan ['19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG A35 4Matic sedan ['20-'21 & in Canada: '22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) '''W177:'''<br> *4G = A250 hatchback [Canada only: '19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = A250 4Matic hatchback [Canada only: '19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG A35 4Matic hatchback [Canada only: '20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) '''W245:'''<br> *33 = B200 [Canada only: '06-'09] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve M266.980 I4 *3D = B200 [Canada only: '10-'11] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve M266.980 I4 *34 = B200 Turbo [Canada only: '06-'09] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve turbo M266.980 I4 *3E = B200 Turbo [Canada only: '10-'11] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve turbo M266.980 I4 *8G = B-Class F-Cell (hydrogen fuel cell) '''W246:'''<br> *4E = B250 [Canada only: '13-'19] 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve turbo M270 I4 *4G = B250 4Matic [Canada only: '15-'19] 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve turbo M270 I4 '''N242:'''<br> *9A = B-Class Electric Drive ['14-'15], B250e ['16-'17] (Tesla front electric motor, Lithium-ion battery pack, fwd, 177 hp) '''C117:'''<br> *4E = CLA250 sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *4G = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *5C = CLA45 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI AMG M133 I4) '''C118:'''<br> *4G = CLA250 sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = CLA250 sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG CLA35 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG CLA35 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5D = AMG CLA45 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) *5E = AMG CLA45 S 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) '''W201:'''<br> following DA in pos. 4-5: *24 = 190E 2.3 ['84-'86] (2.3-liter SOHC, 8 valve M102 I4) *28 = 190E 2.3 ['87-'88, '91-'93] (2.3-liter SOHC, 8 valve M102 I4) *29 = 190E 2.6 ['87-'93] (2.6-liter M103 I6) *34 = 190E 2.3-16 ['86-'87] (2.3-liter DOHC, 16 valve M102 I4) following DB in pos. 4-5: *22 = 190D 2.2 ['84-'85] (2.2-liter OM601 diesel I4) *26 = 190D 2.5 ['86-'89] (2.5-liter OM602 diesel I5) *28 = 190D 2.5 Turbo ['87] (2.5-liter OM602 turbodiesel I5) '''W202:'''<br> following HA in pos. 4-5: *22 = C220 ['94-'96] (2.2-liter M111 I4) *23 = C230 ['97-'98] (2.3-liter M111 I4) *24 = C230 Kompressor ['99-'00] (2.3-liter supercharged M111 I4) *28 = C280 ['94-'97] (2.8-liter M104 I6) *29 = C280 ['98-'00] (2.8-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *33 = C43 AMG ['98-'00] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113.944 V8) following HM in pos. 4-5: *36 = C36 AMG ['95-'97] (3.6-liter M104 AMG I6) '''W203/S203/CL203:'''<br> following RF in pos. 4-5: *40 = C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan ['03-'05] (1.8-liter supercharged M271 I4) *52 = C230 Sport Sedan ['06-'07] (2.5-liter M272 90° V6) *54 = C280 sedan ['06-'07] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = C350 sedan ['06-'07] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *61 = C240 sedan ['01-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *64 = C320 sedan ['01-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *65 = C32 AMG sedan ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve supercharged M112 90° V6) *76 = C55 AMG ['05-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *81 = C240 4Matic sedan ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *84 = C320 4Matic sedan ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *87 = C350 4Matic sedan ['06-'07] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *92 = C280 4Matic sedan ['06-'07] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) following RH in pos. 4-5: *61 = C240 wagon ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *64 = C320 wagon ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *81 = C240 4Matic wagon ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *84 = C320 4Matic wagon ['03-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) following RN in pos. 4-5: *47 = C230 Kompressor Sport Coupe ['02] (2.3-liter supercharged M111 I4) *40 = C230 Kompressor Sport Coupe ['03-'05] (1.8-liter supercharged M271 I4) *64 = C320 Sport Coupe ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''W204/C204:'''<br> following GF in pos. 4-5: *4H = C250 sedan ['12-'14] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *54 = C300 sedan ['08-'09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *5E = C300 sedan ['10-'11] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = C350 sedan ['08-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5G = C350 sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = C350 sedan ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *77 = C63 AMG sedan ['08-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = C63 AMG sedan ['10-'14], C63 AMG Edition 507 ['14] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *81 = C300 4Matic sedan ['08-'09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *8B = C300 4Matic sedan ['10-'12] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *8A = C300 4Matic sedan ['13-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 - detuned version) following GJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = C250 coupe ['12-'15] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *5H = C350 coupe ['12-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *7H = C63 AMG coupe ['12-'15], C63 AMG Black Series coupe ['12-'13], C63 AMG Edition 507 ['14-'15] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *8J = C350 4Matic coupe ['12-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) '''W205/S205/C205/A205:'''<br> following WF in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 sedan ['15-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic sedan ['15-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4H = C350e sedan ['16-'18] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8D = C300 sedan ['19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic sedan ['19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6G = C400 4Matic sedan ['15] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6E = C450 AMG Sport 4Matic sedan ['16], AMG C43 4Matic sedan ['17-'21] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 sedan ['15-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S sedan ['15-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following WH in pos. 4-5: *4K = C300 4Matic wagon [Canada: '18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic wagon [Canada: '19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic wagon [Canada: '19-'21] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) following WJ in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 coupe ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic coupe ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = C300 coupe ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic coupe ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic coupe ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 coupe ['17-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S coupe ['17-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following WK in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 convertible ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic convertible ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = C300 convertible ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic convertible ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic convertible ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 convertible ['17-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S convertible ['17-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W206:'''<br> following AF in pos. 4-5: *4G = C300 sedan ['22-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = C300 4Matic sedan ['22-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG C43 4Matic+ sedan ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG C63 S E Performance 4Matic sedan ['24-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''W123/S123/C123:'''<br> following AA in pos. 4-5: *33 = 280E ['81] (2.7-liter DOHC, 12-valve M110.984 I6) *53 = 280CE ['81] (2.7-liter DOHC, 12-valve M110.984 I6) following AB in pos. 4-5: *23 = 240D ['81-'83] (2.4-liter OM616 diesel I4) *30 = 300D ['81] (3.0-liter OM617 diesel I5) *33 = 300D Turbodiesel ['82-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *50 = 300CD ['81] (3.0-liter OM617 diesel I5) *53 = 300CD Turbodiesel ['82-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *93 = 300TD Turbodiesel ['81-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) '''W124/S124/C124/A124:'''<br> following EA in pos. 4-5: *26 = 260E ['87-'89], 300E 2.6 ['90-'92] (2.6-liter M103 I6) *28 = 300E 2.8 ['93] (2.8-liter M104 I6) *30 = 300E ['86-'92] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *32 = 300E ['93], E320 sedan ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *34 = 400E ['92-'93], E420 sedan ['94-'95] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *36 = 500E ['92-'93], E500 sedan ['94] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *50 = 300CE ['88-'89] (3.0-liter SOHC, 12 valve M103 I6) *51 = 300CE ['90-'92] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *52 = 300CE coupe ['93], E320 coupe ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *66 = 300CE convertible ['93], E320 convertible ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *90 = 300TE ['88-'92] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *92 = 300TE ['93], E320 wagon ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) following EB in pos. 4-5: *28 = 300D 2.5 Turbo ['90-'93] (2.5-liter OM602 turbodiesel I5) *31 = E300 Diesel ['95] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 diesel I6) *33 = 300D Turbo ['87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *93 = 300TD Turbo ['87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) following ED in pos. 4-5: *30 = 300E 4Matic ['90-'93] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *90 = 300TE 4Matic ['90-'93] (3.0-liter M103 I6) '''W210/S210:'''<br> following JF in pos. 4-5: *20 = E300 Diesel ['96-'97] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 diesel I6) *25 = E300 Turbodiesel ['98-'99] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 turbodiesel I6) *55 = E320 ['96-'97] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *65 = E320 sedan ['98-'02] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *72 = E420 ['97] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *70 = E430 ['98-'02] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = E55 AMG ['99-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic sedan ['98-'02] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E430 4Matic ['00-'02] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) following JH in pos. 4-5: *65 = E320 wagon ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *82 = E320 4Matic wagon ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''W211/S211:'''<br> following UF in pos. 4-5: *26 = E320 CDI sedan ['05-'06] (3.2-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM648 turbodiesel I6) *22 = E320 Bluetec sedan ['07-'09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *65 = E320 sedan ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = E350 sedan ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *70 = E500 sedan ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = E550 sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = E55 AMG sedan ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = E63 AMG sedan ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic sedan ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E500 4Matic sedan ['04-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *87 = E350 4Matic sedan ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *90 = E550 4Matic sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) following UH in pos. 4-5: *65 = E320 wagon ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = E350 wagon ['06] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *76 = E55 AMG wagon ['05-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = E63 AMG wagon ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic wagon ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E500 4Matic wagon ['04-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *87 = E350 4Matic wagon ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) '''W212/S212:'''<br> following HF in pos. 4-5: *2E = E350 Bluetec sedan ['11-'13] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *0E = E250 Bluetec sedan ['14-'16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5G = E350 sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 sedan ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7H = E63 AMG sedan ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7E = E63 AMG sedan ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = E63 AMG S 4Matic sedan ['14-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8B = E300 4Matic sedan [Canada only: '12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 - detuned version) *8H = E350 4Matic sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = E350 4Matic sedan ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *9A = E550 4Matic sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *9B = E550 4Matic sedan ['12-'14, Canada only: '15-'16] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9C = E63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'15] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *9F = E400 Hybrid sedan ['13-'15] (Mild Hybrid: 3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *9H = E250 Bluetec 4Matic sedan ['14-'16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve turbodiesel I4) following HH in pos. 4-5: *8H = E350 4Matic wagon ['11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = E350 4Matic wagon ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic wagon [Canada only: '15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7E = E63 AMG wagon ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = E63 AMG S 4Matic wagon ['14-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''W213/S213:'''<br> following ZF in pos. 4-5: *4J = E300 sedan ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = E300 4Matic sedan ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = E350 sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = E350 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6G = E400 4Matic sedan ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic sedan ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5K = E450 4Matic sedan ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6E = AMG E43 4Matic sedan ['17-'18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic sedan ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG E63 S 4Matic sedan ['18-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following ZH in pos. 4-5: *6G = E400 4Matic wagon ['17-'18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic wagon ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6A = E450 4Matic All-Terrain wagon ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG E63 S 4Matic wagon ['18-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W214/S214:'''<br> following LF in pos. 4-5: *4G = E350 sedan ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = E350 4Matic sedan ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = E450 4Matic sedan ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6D = AMG E53 4Matic+ Hybrid sedan ['25-] (PHEV: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following LH in pos. 4-5: *6F = E450 4Matic All-Terrain wagon ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C219:'''<br> *75 = CLS500 sedan ['06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLS550 sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7C = CLS550 sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLS55 AMG sedan ['06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = CLS63 AMG sedan ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = CLS63 AMG sedan ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''C218:'''<br> *6F = CLS400 sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = CLS400 4Matic sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = CLS550 sedan ['12-'18] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = CLS63 AMG sedan ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = CLS63 AMG S 4Matic sedan ['14-'18] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *9B = CLS550 4Matic sedan ['12-'18] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9C = CLS63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''C257:'''<br> *5J = CLS450 sedan ['19-'21] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = CLS450 4Matic sedan ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG CLS53 4Matic sedan ['19-'21] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X290:'''<br> *5K = AMG GT43 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GT53 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8J = AMG GT63 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-'21, '23-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8K = AMG GT63 S 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT63 S E Performance 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''V295:'''<br> *2B = EQE350+ sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 288 hp) *1C = EQE350 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) *2C = EQE500 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 402 hp) *5D = AMG EQE 4Matic+ sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 617 hp) '''W126/V126//C126:'''<br> following CA in pos. 4-5: *24 = 300SE ['88-'91] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *25 = 300SEL ['88-'91] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *32 = 380SE ['84-'85] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *33 = 380SEL ['81-'83] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *35 = 420SEL ['86-'91] (4.2-liter M116 V8) *37 = 500SEL ['84-'85] (5.0-liter M117 V8) *39 = 560SEL ['86-'91] (5.5-liter M117 V8) *43 = 380SEC ['82-'83] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *44 = 500SEC ['84-'85] (5.0-liter M117 V8) *45 = 560SEC ['86-'91] (5.5-liter M117 V8) following CB in pos. 4-5: *20 = 300SD Turbodiesel ['81-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *25 = 300SDL Turbodiesel ['86-'87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *34 = 350SD Turbodiesel ['91] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *35 = 350SDL Turbodiesel ['90-'91] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) '''W140/V140/C140:'''<br> following GA in pos. 4-5: *32 = 300SE ['92-'93], S320 sedan SWB ['94-'99] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *33 = S320 sedan LWB ['95-'99] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *42 = 400SE ['92] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *43 = 400SEL ['93], S420 ['94-'99] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *51 = 500SEL ['92-'93], S500 sedan ['94-'99] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *57 = 600SEL ['92-'93], S600 sedan ['94-'99] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) *70 = 500SEC ['93], S500 coupe ['94-'97], CL500 ['98-'99] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *76 = 600SEC ['93], S600 coupe ['94-'97], CL600 ['98-'99] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) following GB in pos. 4-5: *34 = 300SD Turbodiesel ['92-'93], S350 Turbodiesel ['94-'95] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) '''V220:'''<br> following NG in pos. 4-5: *70 = S430 ['00-'06] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *73 = S55 AMG ['01-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = S55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *75 = S500 ['00-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *78 = S600 ['01-'02] (5.8-liter SOHC, 36-valve M137 V12) *76 = S600 ['03-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = S65 AMG ['06] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *83 = S430 4Matic ['03-'06] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *84 = S500 4Matic ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''W220:'''<br> following NF in pos. 4-5: *67 = S350 ['06] (3.7-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''C215:'''<br> *73 = CL55 AMG ['01-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CL55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *75 = CL500 ['00-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *78 = CL600 ['01-'02] (5.8-liter SOHC, 36-valve M137 V12) *76 = CL600 ['03-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = CL65 AMG ['05-'06] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) '''V221:'''<br> following NG in pos. 4-5: *71 = S550 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7B = S550 ['10-'11] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7D = S550 ['12-'13] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *76 = S600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *7G = S600 ['10-'13] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = S63 AMG ['08-09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7H = S63 AMG ['10] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7E = S63 AMG ['11-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *79 = S65 AMG ['07-09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = S65 AMG ['10-'13] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *8D = S350 Bluetec 4Matic ['12-'13] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *86 = S550 4Matic ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *8G = S550 4Matic ['10-'11] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *9E = S550 4Matic ['12-'13] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9F = S400 Hybrid ['10-'13] (Mild Hybrid: 3.5-liter M272 90° Atkinson-cycle V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C216:'''<br> *71 = CL550 ['07-'08] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *76 = CL600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *7G = CL600 ['10-'14] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = CL63 AMG ['08-'09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7H = CL63 AMG ['10] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7E = CL63 AMG ['11-'14] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *79 = CL65 AMG ['08-'09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = CL65 AMG ['10-'14] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *86 = CL550 4Matic ['09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *8G = CL550 4Matic ['10] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *9E = CL550 4Matic ['11-'14] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) '''V222:'''<br> following UG in pos. 4-5: *6D = S550 Plug-in Hybrid ['15], S550e ['16-'17] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7D = S560e ['19-'20] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6G = S450 sedan ['18-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6E = S450 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8C = S550 sedan ['14-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8D = S560 sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *8F = S550 4Matic sedan ['14-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = S560 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7G = S600 sedan ['15-'17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M277 V12) *7K = S65 AMG sedan ['15-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''X222:'''<br> following UX in pos. 4-5: *8F = Mercedes-Maybach S550 4Matic sedan ['17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = Mercedes-Maybach S560 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7G = Mercedes-Maybach S600 sedan ['16-'17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M277 V12) *8A = Mercedes-Maybach S650 sedan ['18-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''C217:'''<br> following XJ in pos. 4-5: *8F = S550 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = S560 4Matic coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = S65 AMG coupe ['15-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''A217:'''<br> following XK in pos. 4-5: *8C = S550 convertible ['17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8D = S560 convertible ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic convertible ['17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic convertible ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = S65 AMG convertible ['17-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) *7K = Mercedes-Maybach S650 convertible ['17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''V223:'''<br> following 6G in pos. 4-5: *6D = S500 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6K = S580e 4Matic sedan ['23-] (PHEV: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7G = S580 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8C = AMG S63 E Performance 4Matic+ ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''Z223:'''<br> following 6X in pos. 4-5: *7G = Mercedes-Maybach S580 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7K = Mercedes-Maybach S680 4Matic sedan ['22-] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''V297:'''<br> *2D = EQS450+ sedan ['22-'23] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 329 hp) *2D = EQS450+ sedan ['24-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 355 hp) *2E = EQS450 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 355 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic sedan ['22-'23] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 516 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic sedan ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 536 hp) *5F = AMG EQS 4Matic+ sedan ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 649 hp) '''W240:'''<br> following VF in pos. 4-5: *78 = Maybach 57 ['04-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *7J = Maybach 57 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *79 = Maybach 57S ['06-'09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7K = Maybach 57S ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 57S Zeppelin ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 57S ['11-'12] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) '''V240:'''<br> following VG in pos. 4-5: *78 = Maybach 62 ['04-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *7J = Maybach 62 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *79 = Maybach 62S ['07-'09], 62S Landaulet ('09) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7K = Maybach 62S ['10], 62S Landaulet ('10) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 62S Zeppelin ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 62S ['11-'12], 62S Landaulet ('11-'12) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) '''C208/A208:'''<br> *65 = CLK320 ['98-'02 coupe, '99-'03 convertible] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *70 = CLK430 ['99-'02 coupe, '00-'03 convertible] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CLK55 AMG ['01-'02 coupe, '02 convertible] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''C209/A209:'''<br> *65 = CLK320 ['03-'05 coupe, '04-'05 convertible] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = CLK350 ['06-'09 coupe, '06-'09 convertible] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = CLK500 ['03-'06 coupe, '04-'06 convertible] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLK550 ['07-'09 coupe, '07-'09 convertible] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLK55 AMG ['03-'05 coupe, '04-'06 convertible] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = CLK63 AMG ['07-'08 convertible] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *77 = CLK63 AMG Black Series ['08 coupe] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''C207/A207:'''<br> following KJ in pos. 4-5: *5G = E350 coupe ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 coupe ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 coupe ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 coupe ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7D = E550 coupe ['12-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8J = E350 4Matic coupe ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) following KK in pos. 4-5: *5G = E350 convertible ['11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 convertible ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 convertible ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 convertible ['11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7D = E550 convertible ['12-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) '''C238/A238:'''<br> following 1J in pos. 4-5: *6F = E400 coupe ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = E400 4Matic coupe ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E450 coupe ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic coupe ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5J = E450 coupe ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = E450 4Matic coupe ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic coupe ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following 1K in pos. 4-5: *6F = E400 convertible ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = E400 4Matic convertible ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E450 convertible ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic convertible ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5J = E450 convertible ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = E450 4Matic convertible ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic convertible ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C236/A236:'''<br> following MJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = CLE300 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = CLE450 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6C = AMG CLE53 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following MK in pos. 4-5: *4H = CLE300 4Matic convertible ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = CLE450 4Matic convertible ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6C = AMG CLE53 4Matic convertible ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''R170:'''<br> *47 = SLK230 Kompressor ['98-'00] (2.3-liter M111.973 supercharged I4) *49 = SLK230 Kompressor ['01-'04] (2.3-liter M111.983 supercharged I4) *65 = SLK320 ['01-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *66 = SLK32 AMG ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 supercharged 90° V6) '''R171:'''<br> *54 = SLK280 ['06-'08], SLK300 ['09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *5E = SLK300 ['10-'11] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = SLK350 ['05-'08] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *58 = SLK350 ['09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5J = SLK350 ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *73 = SLK55 AMG ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *7D = SLK55 AMG ['10] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''R172:'''<br> *4H = SLK250 ['12-'15] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *3J = SLK300 ['16], SLC300 ['17-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *5H = SLK350 ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = SLC43 AMG ['17-'20] (3.0-liter twin-turbocharged M276 60° GDI V6) *7F = SLK55 AMG ['12-'16] (5.5-liter M152 GDI V8) '''R107:'''<br> *45 = 380SL ['81-'85] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *48 = 560SL ['86-'89] (5.5-liter M117 V8) '''C107:'''<br> *25 = 380SLC ['81] (3.8-liter M116 V8) '''R129:'''<br> *61 = 300SL ['90-'93] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *63 = SL320 ['94-'97] (3.2-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *66 = 500SL ['90-'92] (5.0-liter DOHC, 32-valve M119 V8) *67 = 500SL ['93], SL500 ['94-'98] (5.0-liter DOHC, 32-valve M119 V8) *68 = SL500 ['99-'02] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *76 = 600SL ['93], SL600 ['94-'02] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) '''R230:'''<br> *75 = SL500 ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *71 = SL550 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7B = SL550 ['11-'12] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *74 = SL55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *72 = SL55 AMG ['07-'08] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *70 = SL63 AMG ['09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7A = SL63 AMG ['11-'12] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *76 = SL600 ['04-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = SL600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = SL65 AMG ['05-'09], SL65 AMG Black Series ['09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = SL65 AMG ['11] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) '''R231:'''<br> *6F = SL400 ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = SL450 ['17-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = SL550 ['13-'20] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = SL63 AMG ['13-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7K = SL65 AMG ['13-'18] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''R232:'''<br> following VK in pos. 4-5: *5A = AMG SL43 ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 2 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG SL55 4Matic+ ['22-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8B = AMG SL63 4Matic+ ['22-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8C = AMG SL63 S E Performance 4Matic+ ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C199/R199:'''<br> *76 = SLR McLaren ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M155 V8) '''C197/R197:'''<br> *7H = SLS AMG ['11-'12] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7J = SLS AMG GT ['13-'15] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7H = SLS AMG Black Series ['14] (6.2-liter M159 V8) '''C190:'''<br> following YJ in pos. 4-5: *7H = AMG GT 2-d coupe (base model) ['17-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT 2-d coupe (base model) ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *AJ = AMG GT 2-d coupe S ['16] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7J = AMG GT 2-d coupe S ['16-'19] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8A = AMG GT 2-d coupe C ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d coupe R ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d coupe R Pro ['20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8B = AMG GT 2-d coupe Black Series ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 LS2 GDI flat-plane crank V8) '''R190:'''<br> following YK in pos. 4-5: *7H = AMG GT roadster (base model) ['17-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT roadster (base model) ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8A = AMG GT roadster C ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d roadster R ['20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) '''C192:'''<br> following RJ in pos. 4-5: *4C = AMG GT43 coupe ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 2 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GT55 4Matic+ coupe ['24-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7J = AMG GT63 4Matic+ coupe ['24-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT63 S E Performance 4Matic+ coupe ['25-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8J = AMG GT63 Pro 4Matic+ coupe ['25-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''X156:'''<br> *4E = GLA250 ['15-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *4G = GLA250 4Matic ['15-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *5C = GLA45 AMG 4Matic ['15-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI AMG M133 I4) '''H247:'''<br> *4G = GLA250 ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = GLA250 ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLA250 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = GLA250 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG GLA35 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG GLA35 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5D = AMG GLA45 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) '''X247:'''<br> *4G = GLB250 ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = GLB250 ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLB250 4Matic ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = GLB250 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG GLB35 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG GLB35 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X243:'''<br> *0C = EQB250+ ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 front motor, Fwd, 188 hp) *0K = EQB300 4Matic ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 225 hp) *1D = EQB350 4Matic ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) '''X204:'''<br> *0E = GLK250 Bluetec 4Matic ['13-'15] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5G = GLK350 2wd ['10-'12] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = GLK350 2wd ['13-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *8H = GLK350 4Matic ['10-'12] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = GLK350 4Matic ['13-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) '''X253:'''<br> following 0G in pos. 4-5: *4J = GLC300 2wd ['16-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = GLC300 4Matic ['16-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = GLC300 2wd ['20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = GLC300 4Matic ['20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *5E = GLC350e 4Matic ['18-'19] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + 114 hp electric motor, 8.7 kWh lithium-ion battery) *5D = GLC350e 4Matic ['20] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + 121 hp electric motor, 13.5 kWh lithium-ion battery) *6E = AMG GLC43 4Matic ['17-'22] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8J = AMG GLC63 4Matic ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''C253:'''<br> following 0J in pos. 4-5: *4K = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8E = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG GLC43 4Matic Coupe ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8J = AMG GLC63 4Matic Coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8K = AMG GLC63 S 4Matic Coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''X254:'''<br> following KM in pos. 4-5: *4G = GLC300 2wd ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLC300 4Matic ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5G = GLC350e 4Matic ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG GLC43 4Matic ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GLC63 S E Performance 4Matic ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''C254:'''<br> following KJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG GLC43 4Matic Coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GLC63 S E Performance 4Matic Coupe ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''W163:'''<br> *54 = ML320 ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *57 = ML350 ['03-'05] (3.7-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *72 = ML430 ['99-'01] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = ML55 AMG ['00-'03] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *75 = ML500 ['02-'05] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''W164:'''<br> *22 = ML320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = ML320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = ML350 Bluetec ['10-'11] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *56 = ML350 2wd ['09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5G = ML350 2wd ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *86 = ML350 4Matic ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8G = ML350 4Matic ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = ML500 ['06-'07] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = ML550 ['08-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7C = ML550 ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *77 = ML63 AMG ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = ML63 AMG ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *9F = ML450 Hybrid 4Matic ['10-'11] (2-Mode Hybrid: 3.5-liter Atkinson-cycle M272 90° V6 + 2 electric motors, Nickel–metal hydride battery) '''W166:'''<br> following DA in pos. 4-5: *2E = ML350 Bluetec ['12-'14 & '15 in Canada], GLE350d [Canada only: '16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *0E = ML250 Bluetec ['15], GLE300d ['16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5J = ML350 2wd ['13-'15], GLE350 2wd ['16-'18] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *5H = ML350 4Matic ['12-'15], GLE350 4Matic ['16-'18] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *5G = ML400 4Matic ['15], GLE400 4Matic ['16-'17 & '19, Canada only: '18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6D = GLE550e 4Matic ['16-'18] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6E = GLE450 AMG Sport 4Matic [Canada only: '16], AMG GLE43 4Matic ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = ML550 ['12-'14 & '15 in Canada], GLE550 [Canada only: '16-'19] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = ML63 AMG ['12-'15], AMG GLE63 ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = AMG GLE63 S ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''C292:'''<br> following ED in pos. 4-5: *2E = GLE350d Coupe [Canada only: '16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *6E = GLE450 AMG Sport 4Matic Coupe ['16], AMG GLE43 4Matic Coupe ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7F = AMG GLE63 S Coupe ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''W167:'''<br> following FB in pos. 4-5: *4J = GLE350 2wd ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *4K = GLE350 4Matic ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *4E = GLE350 2wd ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4F = GLE350 4Matic ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4G = GLE450e 4Matic ['24-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = GLE450 ['20-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GLE53 ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8G = GLE580 ['20-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8F = GLE580 ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLE63 S ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C167:'''<br> following FD in pos. 4-5: *5K = GLE450 Coupe [Canada only: '22-'24, US & Canada: '25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GLE53 Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLE63 S Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X294:'''<br> *2B = EQE350+ SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 288 hp) *1C = EQE350 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) *2C = EQE500 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 402 hp) *5D = AMG EQE 4Matic+ SUV ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 617 hp) '''V251:'''<br> *22 = R320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = R320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = R350 Bluetec ['10-'12 & '13 in Canada] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *56 = R350 2wd ['08] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *65 = R350 4Matic ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *6F = R350 4Matic ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = R350 4Matic ['12 & '13 in Canada] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *75 = R500 ['06-'07] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = R63 AMG ['07] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''X164:'''<br> *22 = GL320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = GL320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = GL350 Bluetec ['10-'12] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *71 = GL450 ['07-'09] (4.7-liter M273 V8) *7B = GL450 ['10-'12] (4.7-liter M273 V8) *86 = GL550 ['08-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *8G = GL550 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter M273 V8) '''X166:'''<br> *2E = GL350 Bluetec ['13-'16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *7C = GL450 ['13-'14] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8 - detuned version) *6E = GL450 ['15-'16], GLS450 ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = GL550 ['13-'16], GLS550 ['17-'19] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = GL63 AMG ['13-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = AMG GLS63 ['17-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''X167:'''<br> *5K = GLS450 ['20-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8G = GLS580 ['20-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8F = GLS580 ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = Mercedes-Maybach GLS600 ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLS63 4MATIC+ ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X296:'''<br> *2D = EQS450+ SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 355 hp) *2E = EQS450 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 355 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 536 hp) '''Z296:'''<br> *5F = Mercedes-Maybach EQS680 4Matic SUV ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 649 hp) '''W463 (1st gen.):'''<br> *49 = G500 ['02-'08] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *37 = G550 ['09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *3H = G550 ['10-'15] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *3K = G550 ['16-'18] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *5F = G550 4x4² ['17-'18] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *46 = G55 AMG ['03-'04] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *71 = G55 AMG ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *7B = G55 AMG ['10-'11] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *7D = G63 AMG ['13-'18] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = G65 AMG ['16-'18] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''W463 (2nd gen.):'''<br> *6B = G550 ['19-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7H = AMG G63 ['19-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8A = AMG G63 4x4² ['22-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W465:'''<br> following WH in pos. 4-5: *1A = G550 ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5A = AMG G63 ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''N465:'''<br> following WM in pos. 4-5: *0A = G580 with EQ Technology ['25-] (battery-electric, 4 motors, 4wd, 579 hp) ===Position 8=== Passenger cars - Restraint system: * A 3-point seat belts for outboard passengers, center rear lap belt * B seat belt + emergency pretensioners for front passenger seat & driver-side front airbag * C seat belt + emergency pretensioners for both front seats * D seat belt + emergency pretensioners for both front seats, driver-side front air bag and knee bolster * E seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear lap belt (SL-Class does not have rear seats) * F seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt (SL-Class & SLK-Class do not have rear seats) ['96-'98 210-series E-class sedan, '98-'99 210-series E-class wagon, '96- R129 SL-Class, '98- R170 SLK-Class] * G seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear lap belt (CL-Class & CLK-Class do not have center rear seat position) ['97-'99 140-series S-class, '98-'00 202-series C-Class, '98-'02 208-series CLK-Class coupe, '99-'03 208-series CLK-Class convertible] * H seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, front to rear side curtain airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt ['99 210-series E-Class sedan] * J seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, front to rear side curtain airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt ['00- 210-series E-Class, '00- 220-series S-Class, '00- 215-series CL-Class, '01- 203-series C-Class, '03- 209-series CLK-Class coupe] SUVs - GVWR ('98-'09): * E = Class E: 6001-7000 lbs. ('98-'09 M-Class, '02-'09 G-Class, '06-'09 R-Class, '07-'09 GL-Class) SUVs - Restraint system & GVWR ('10-): ===Position 9, Check Digit=== [[Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Check digit |Check digit]] ===Position 10, Model Year: === [[Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Model year|Model year]] ===Position 11, Production Plant:=== * A-D: Sindelfingen, Germany * E: Sindelfingen, Germany (through 2000) * E: Juiz de Fora, Minas Gerais, Brazil (from 2001) * E: Mishawaka, Indiana, US (AM General plant) ('16-'17 R-Class for China) * F-H: Bremen, Germany * J, K: Rastatt, Germany * L: Pekan, Pahang, Malaysia (HICOM Automotive Manufacturers plant) * M: Woking, England, UK (SLR McLaren) (McLaren Automotive plant) * N, P: Kecskemet, Hungary * R, S: East London, South Africa * T: Osnabrück, Germany (Karmann plant) * U: Sindelfingen, Germany * V: Uusikaupunki, Finland (Valmet Automotive plant) * W: Aguascalientes, Mexico (COMPAS plant) * X: Graz, Austria (Magna Steyr plant) * 1: Pune, Maharashtra, India For 4JG and 55S: * A, B, U: Vance, Alabama, US ===Positions 12–17, Serial Number=== ==Commercial Vehicles== Position 1-3 * WDB - Daimler-Benz AG, DaimlerChrysler AG, Daimler AG * VSA - Mercedes-Benz Espana SA (1st gen. Vito/V-Class - W638) * WDF - DaimlerChrysler AG, Daimler AG (Citan, Vito/V-Class & X-Class) * W1T - Daimler AG (Daimler Truck Holding AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz truck) * W1V - Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz van) Position 4–6, Model *414 - Vaneo *415 - Mark 1 Citan *420 - Mark 2 Citan *447 - Mark 3 Vito *470 - X-Class *638 - Mark 1 Vito *639 - Mark 2 Vito *670 - Vario *901 - Sprinter T1N *902 - Sprinter T1N *903 - Sprinter T1N *904 - Sprinter T1N *905 - Sprinter T1N *906 - Sprinter NCV3 *907 - Sprinter VS30 (RWD) *910 - Sprinter VS30 (FWD) *930 - Actros Rigids *933 - Actros MP2 concrete mixer *934 - Actros MP2 tractor *944 - Axor Tractor *950 - Axor Rigids / Actros Mk1 Rigids *952 - Axor *954 - Actros Mk1 Tractor *956 - Econic *963 - NEW ACTROS MP4 (Common-Rail engine) / Antos *964 - NEW ACTROS MP4 (Common-Rail engine) / Arocs *967 - Atego *970 - Atego *972 - Atego *976 - Atego Fire Position 7–9, Weight and Length code Position 10, Drive indicator *1 Left hand drive *2 Right hand drive Position 11, Plant code * E: Buenos Aires, Argentina * G: Barcelona, Spain (Nissan plant) (X-Class pickup) * N: Ludwigsfelde, Germany * P, R, S: Dusseldorf, Germany * T: Ladson, South Carolina, US * U: Maubeuge, France (Renault plant) (Citan, T-Class, EQT) * V: Worth, Germany * 3: Vitoria, Spain * 4: Vitoria, Spain (When Position 1-3 is W1V) * 4: Worth, Germany * 5: Dusseldorf, Germany * 9: Ludwigsfelde, Germany Position 12–17, Serial Number Position 18, Check Digit ==External links== Online [http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz Vito decoder] WDB1260251A336981 {{BookCat}} ni35w6buu5pcf03562i290bymw2pgrb 4520862 4520860 2025-07-01T20:38:18Z JustTheFacts33 3434282 /* Positions 6–7, Model within the series: */ 4520862 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Warning}}{{clear}} Mercedes-Benz uses the following VIN formats: (Note) This chart is not applicable to Mercedes-Benz products made for markets other than North America. European/World market cars use a different system for encoding VIN numbers. ==1960-1980== Position 1-3 - chassis code (e.g. 107, 116, 123, etc.) Position 4-6 - model type (e.g. 024, 032, 033, 036, 044, 045, etc.) Position 7 - 1=LH Drive (made in Germany), 2=RH Drive (made in Germany), 5=LH Drive CKD, 6=RH Drive CKD (Complete Knocked Down, assembled outside Germany)1 Position 8 - 0=Manual transmission, 1=Hydraulic clutch, 2= Automatic transmission 2 (Alphabetics indicate Plant of Manufacture i.e.: A = Sindelfingen) Position 9-14 - Construction serial number 10704312006193 ==Passenger Vehicles 1981-== ===Positions 1–3, World Manufacturer Identifier:=== * WDB Daimler-Benz AG (DaimlerChrysler after 1998) (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz or Maybach passenger car) * WDC DaimlerChrysler AG (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * WDD DaimlerChrysler AG (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) * W1K Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) * W1N Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * 4JG Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * 55S Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) ===Position 4, Model or Series:=== * A W123 300-Class * B R107 SL-Class * B C107 SLC-Class * C W126/C126 S-Class * D W201 190-Class * E W124 300-Class/E-Class * F R129 SL-Class * G W140/C140 S-Class, C140 CL-Class * H W202 C-Class * J W210 E-Class * K R170 SLK-Class * L C208/A208 CLK-Class * N W220 S-Class * P C215 CL-Class * R W203 C-Class * S R230 SL-Class * T C209/A209 CLK-Class * U W211 E-Class * W R171 SLK-Class *---------------------------------- * A C199/R199/Z199 SLR McLaren * D C219 CLS-Class * E C216 CL-Class * F W245 B-Class (Canada only) * G W204 C-Class * H W212/S212 E-Class sedan/wagon * J R231 SL-Class * K C207/A207 E-Class coupe/convertible * L C218 CLS-Class * M W246 B-Class (Canada only) * N W221 S-Class * P R172 SLK-Class/SLC-Class * R C197/R197 SLS AMG * S C117 CLA-Class * U W222 S-Class sedan * V W240 Maybach 57/62 * V N242 B-Class Electric * W W205 C-Class * X C217/A217 S-Class coupe/convertible * Y C190/R190 AMG GT coupe/roadster * Z W213/S213/X213 E-Class sedan/wagon/All-Terrain wagon * 1 C238/A238 E-Class coupe/convertible * 2 C257 CLS-Class * 3 V177 A-Class sedan * 3 W177 A-Class hatchback (Canada only) * 5 C118 CLA-Class * 6 W223 S-Class sedan * 7 X290 AMG GT 4-door coupe * A W206 C-Class * C V297 EQS-Class sedan * E V295 EQE-Class sedan * L W214/X214 E-Class sedan/All-Terrain wagon * M C236/A236 CLE-Class coupe/convertible * R C192 AMG GT coupe * V R232 SL-Class *---------------------------------- * A W163 M-Class * B W164 M-Class * B X164 GL-Class * C W251 R-Class * D W166 M-Class/GLE-Class * D X166 GL-Class/GLS-Class * D X296 EQS-Class SUV * E C292 GLE-Class Coupe * F W167/C167 GLE-Class * F X167 GLS-Class * G X204 GLK-Class * 0 X253/C253 GLC-Class * G X294 EQE-Class SUV * K X254/C254 GLC-Class * T X156 GLA-Class * Y W463 G-Class * W W465 G-Class * 4 H247 GLA-Class * 4 X247 GLB-Class * 9 X243 EQB-Class ===Position 5, Body Style:=== Passenger Cars: * B = Long Body * F = Sedan ('96+ E-Class, '01+ C-Class, '06 S-Class [S350], Maybach 57) * F = 5-door hatchback (Canada only: '19-'22 A-Class) * G = Sedan Long Wheelbase ('00+ S-Class, Maybach 62) * G = Sedan ('19-'22 A-Class sedan) * H = Wagon ('98-'09, '11- E-Class wagon, '02-'05 C-Class wagon, Canada only: '19-'21 C-Class wagon) * H = "Sedan" [5-door hatchback/compact minivan] ('06-'11, '13-'19 B-Class [gas engine] - Canada only) * J = 2-door Coupe ('98-'09 CLK-Class Coupe, '12-'15, '17-'23 C-Class coupe, '10-'23 E-Class coupe, '24- CLE-Class coupe, '00-'14 CL-Class, '15-'21 S-Class coupe, '05-'07 SLR McLaren coupe, '11-'15 SLS AMG coupe, '16-'21, '24- AMG GT coupe) * J = 4-door Coupe ('06-'23 CLS-Class, '14- CLA-Class) * K = Cabriolet/Roadster ('99-'09 CLK-Class Cabriolet, '17-'23 C-Class Cabriolet, '11-'23 E-Class Cabriolet, '24- CLE-Class Cabriolet, '17-'21 S-Class Cabriolet, '98-'16 SLK-Class, '17-'20 SLC-Class, '03+ SL-Class, '08-'09 SLR McLaren roadster, '12-'15 SLS AMG roadster, '18-'21 AMG GT roadster) * N = "Coupe" [3-door hatchback] ('02-'05 C-Class Sport Coupe) * P = "Sedan" [5-door hatchback/compact minivan] (B-Class Electric) * X = 4-door Coupe [5-door hatchback] ('19- AMG GT 4-door Coupe) SUVs: * A = 4-door MPV ('12-'15 M-Class, '16-'19 GLE-Class wagon) * B = 4-door MPV ('98-'11 M-Class) * B = 4-door MPV ('20-' GLE-Class wagon) * B = 4-door MPV ('06-'13 R-Class) * C = 4-door MPV ('10-'24 G-Class) * D = 4-door MPV ('16-'19, '21- GLE-Class Coupe) * F = 4-door MPV ('07-'16 GL-Class, '17- GLS-Class) * G = 4-door MPV ('10-'15 GLK-Class, '16-'22 GLC-Class wagon) * G = 4-door MPV ('15-'20 GLA-Class) * H = 4-door MPV ('25- G550, G63 AMG) * J = 4-door MPV ('17- GLC-Class Coupe) * M = 4-door MPV ('20- GLB-Class, '22- EQB-Class) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- GLC-Class wagon) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- EQE-Class SUV) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- EQS-Class SUV) * M = 4-door MPV ('25- G580 EQ [EV]) * N = 4-door MPV ('21- GLA-Class) * R = 4-door MPV ('02-'09 G-Class) On older models, this indicated the engine type, through much of the 1990s and into the 2000's for some models: * A = Gasoline (190 Class '84-'93, C-Class '94-'00, 300 Class '81, '86-'93, E-Class '94-'95, S-Class '81-'99, CL-Class '98-'99, SL-Class '81-'02, SLC '81) * B = Diesel (190 Class '84-'89, 300 Class '81-'85, '87, '90-'93, E-Class '95, S-Class '81-'87, '90-'95) * D = 4Matic Gasoline ('90-'93 300E 4Matic, 300TE 4Matic) * M = AMG Gasoline ('95-'97 C36 AMG only) ===Positions 6–7, Model within the series:=== '''V177:'''<br> *4E = A220 sedan ['19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4F = A220 4Matic sedan ['19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG A35 4Matic sedan ['20-'21 & in Canada: '22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) '''W177:'''<br> *4G = A250 hatchback [Canada only: '19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = A250 4Matic hatchback [Canada only: '19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG A35 4Matic hatchback [Canada only: '20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) '''W245:'''<br> *33 = B200 [Canada only: '06-'09] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve M266.980 I4 *3D = B200 [Canada only: '10-'11] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve M266.980 I4 *34 = B200 Turbo [Canada only: '06-'09] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve turbo M266.980 I4 *3E = B200 Turbo [Canada only: '10-'11] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve turbo M266.980 I4 *8G = B-Class F-Cell (hydrogen fuel cell) '''W246:'''<br> *4E = B250 [Canada only: '13-'19] 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve turbo M270 I4 *4G = B250 4Matic [Canada only: '15-'19] 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve turbo M270 I4 '''N242:'''<br> *9A = B-Class Electric Drive ['14-'15], B250e ['16-'17] (Tesla front electric motor, Lithium-ion battery pack, fwd, 177 hp) '''C117:'''<br> *4E = CLA250 sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *4G = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *5C = CLA45 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI AMG M133 I4) '''C118:'''<br> *4G = CLA250 sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = CLA250 sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG CLA35 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG CLA35 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5D = AMG CLA45 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) *5E = AMG CLA45 S 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) '''W201:'''<br> following DA in pos. 4-5: *24 = 190E 2.3 ['84-'86] (2.3-liter SOHC, 8 valve M102 I4) *28 = 190E 2.3 ['87-'88, '91-'93] (2.3-liter SOHC, 8 valve M102 I4) *29 = 190E 2.6 ['87-'93] (2.6-liter M103 I6) *34 = 190E 2.3-16 ['86-'87] (2.3-liter DOHC, 16 valve M102 I4) following DB in pos. 4-5: *22 = 190D 2.2 ['84-'85] (2.2-liter OM601 diesel I4) *26 = 190D 2.5 ['86-'89] (2.5-liter OM602 diesel I5) *28 = 190D 2.5 Turbo ['87] (2.5-liter OM602 turbodiesel I5) '''W202:'''<br> following HA in pos. 4-5: *22 = C220 ['94-'96] (2.2-liter M111 I4) *23 = C230 ['97-'98] (2.3-liter M111 I4) *24 = C230 Kompressor ['99-'00] (2.3-liter supercharged M111 I4) *28 = C280 ['94-'97] (2.8-liter M104 I6) *29 = C280 ['98-'00] (2.8-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *33 = C43 AMG ['98-'00] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113.944 V8) following HM in pos. 4-5: *36 = C36 AMG ['95-'97] (3.6-liter M104 AMG I6) '''W203/S203/CL203:'''<br> following RF in pos. 4-5: *40 = C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan ['03-'05] (1.8-liter supercharged M271 I4) *52 = C230 Sport Sedan ['06-'07] (2.5-liter M272 90° V6) *54 = C280 sedan ['06-'07] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = C350 sedan ['06-'07] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *61 = C240 sedan ['01-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *64 = C320 sedan ['01-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *65 = C32 AMG sedan ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve supercharged M112 90° V6) *76 = C55 AMG ['05-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *81 = C240 4Matic sedan ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *84 = C320 4Matic sedan ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *87 = C350 4Matic sedan ['06-'07] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *92 = C280 4Matic sedan ['06-'07] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) following RH in pos. 4-5: *61 = C240 wagon ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *64 = C320 wagon ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *81 = C240 4Matic wagon ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *84 = C320 4Matic wagon ['03-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) following RN in pos. 4-5: *47 = C230 Kompressor Sport Coupe ['02] (2.3-liter supercharged M111 I4) *40 = C230 Kompressor Sport Coupe ['03-'05] (1.8-liter supercharged M271 I4) *64 = C320 Sport Coupe ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''W204/C204:'''<br> following GF in pos. 4-5: *4H = C250 sedan ['12-'14] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *54 = C300 sedan ['08-'09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *5E = C300 sedan ['10-'11] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = C350 sedan ['08-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5G = C350 sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = C350 sedan ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *77 = C63 AMG sedan ['08-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = C63 AMG sedan ['10-'14], C63 AMG Edition 507 ['14] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *81 = C300 4Matic sedan ['08-'09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *8B = C300 4Matic sedan ['10-'12] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *8A = C300 4Matic sedan ['13-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 - detuned version) following GJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = C250 coupe ['12-'15] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *5H = C350 coupe ['12-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *7H = C63 AMG coupe ['12-'15], C63 AMG Black Series coupe ['12-'13], C63 AMG Edition 507 ['14-'15] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *8J = C350 4Matic coupe ['12-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) '''W205/S205/C205/A205:'''<br> following WF in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 sedan ['15-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic sedan ['15-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4H = C350e sedan ['16-'18] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8D = C300 sedan ['19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic sedan ['19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6G = C400 4Matic sedan ['15] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6E = C450 AMG Sport 4Matic sedan ['16], AMG C43 4Matic sedan ['17-'21] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 sedan ['15-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S sedan ['15-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following WH in pos. 4-5: *4K = C300 4Matic wagon [Canada: '18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic wagon [Canada: '19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic wagon [Canada: '19-'21] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) following WJ in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 coupe ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic coupe ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = C300 coupe ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic coupe ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic coupe ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 coupe ['17-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S coupe ['17-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following WK in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 convertible ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic convertible ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = C300 convertible ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic convertible ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic convertible ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 convertible ['17-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S convertible ['17-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W206:'''<br> following AF in pos. 4-5: *4G = C300 sedan ['22-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = C300 4Matic sedan ['22-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG C43 4Matic+ sedan ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG C63 S E Performance 4Matic sedan ['24-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''W123/S123/C123:'''<br> following AA in pos. 4-5: *33 = 280E ['81] (2.7-liter DOHC, 12-valve M110.984 I6) *53 = 280CE ['81] (2.7-liter DOHC, 12-valve M110.984 I6) following AB in pos. 4-5: *23 = 240D ['81-'83] (2.4-liter OM616 diesel I4) *30 = 300D ['81] (3.0-liter OM617 diesel I5) *33 = 300D Turbodiesel ['82-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *50 = 300CD ['81] (3.0-liter OM617 diesel I5) *53 = 300CD Turbodiesel ['82-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *93 = 300TD Turbodiesel ['81-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) '''W124/S124/C124/A124:'''<br> following EA in pos. 4-5: *26 = 260E ['87-'89], 300E 2.6 ['90-'92] (2.6-liter M103 I6) *28 = 300E 2.8 ['93] (2.8-liter M104 I6) *30 = 300E ['86-'92] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *32 = 300E ['93], E320 sedan ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *34 = 400E ['92-'93], E420 sedan ['94-'95] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *36 = 500E ['92-'93], E500 sedan ['94] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *50 = 300CE ['88-'89] (3.0-liter SOHC, 12 valve M103 I6) *51 = 300CE ['90-'92] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *52 = 300CE coupe ['93], E320 coupe ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *66 = 300CE convertible ['93], E320 convertible ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *90 = 300TE ['88-'92] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *92 = 300TE ['93], E320 wagon ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) following EB in pos. 4-5: *28 = 300D 2.5 Turbo ['90-'93] (2.5-liter OM602 turbodiesel I5) *31 = E300 Diesel ['95] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 diesel I6) *33 = 300D Turbo ['87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *93 = 300TD Turbo ['87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) following ED in pos. 4-5: *30 = 300E 4Matic ['90-'93] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *90 = 300TE 4Matic ['90-'93] (3.0-liter M103 I6) '''W210/S210:'''<br> following JF in pos. 4-5: *20 = E300 Diesel ['96-'97] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 diesel I6) *25 = E300 Turbodiesel ['98-'99] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 turbodiesel I6) *55 = E320 ['96-'97] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *65 = E320 sedan ['98-'02] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *72 = E420 ['97] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *70 = E430 ['98-'02] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = E55 AMG ['99-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic sedan ['98-'02] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E430 4Matic ['00-'02] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) following JH in pos. 4-5: *65 = E320 wagon ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *82 = E320 4Matic wagon ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''W211/S211:'''<br> following UF in pos. 4-5: *26 = E320 CDI sedan ['05-'06] (3.2-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM648 turbodiesel I6) *22 = E320 Bluetec sedan ['07-'09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *65 = E320 sedan ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = E350 sedan ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *70 = E500 sedan ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = E550 sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = E55 AMG sedan ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = E63 AMG sedan ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic sedan ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E500 4Matic sedan ['04-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *87 = E350 4Matic sedan ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *90 = E550 4Matic sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) following UH in pos. 4-5: *65 = E320 wagon ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = E350 wagon ['06] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *76 = E55 AMG wagon ['05-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = E63 AMG wagon ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic wagon ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E500 4Matic wagon ['04-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *87 = E350 4Matic wagon ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) '''W212/S212:'''<br> following HF in pos. 4-5: *2E = E350 Bluetec sedan ['11-'13] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *0E = E250 Bluetec sedan ['14-'16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5G = E350 sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 sedan ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7H = E63 AMG sedan ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7E = E63 AMG sedan ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = E63 AMG S 4Matic sedan ['14-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8B = E300 4Matic sedan [Canada only: '12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 - detuned version) *8H = E350 4Matic sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = E350 4Matic sedan ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *9A = E550 4Matic sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *9B = E550 4Matic sedan ['12-'14, Canada only: '15-'16] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9C = E63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'15] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *9F = E400 Hybrid sedan ['13-'15] (Mild Hybrid: 3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *9H = E250 Bluetec 4Matic sedan ['14-'16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve turbodiesel I4) following HH in pos. 4-5: *8H = E350 4Matic wagon ['11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = E350 4Matic wagon ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic wagon [Canada only: '15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7E = E63 AMG wagon ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = E63 AMG S 4Matic wagon ['14-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''W213/S213:'''<br> following ZF in pos. 4-5: *4J = E300 sedan ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = E300 4Matic sedan ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = E350 sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = E350 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6G = E400 4Matic sedan ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic sedan ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5K = E450 4Matic sedan ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6E = AMG E43 4Matic sedan ['17-'18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic sedan ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG E63 S 4Matic sedan ['18-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following ZH in pos. 4-5: *6G = E400 4Matic wagon ['17-'18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic wagon ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6A = E450 4Matic All-Terrain wagon ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG E63 S 4Matic wagon ['18-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W214/S214:'''<br> following LF in pos. 4-5: *4G = E350 sedan ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = E350 4Matic sedan ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = E450 4Matic sedan ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6D = AMG E53 4Matic+ Hybrid sedan ['25-] (PHEV: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following LH in pos. 4-5: *6F = E450 4Matic All-Terrain wagon ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C219:'''<br> *75 = CLS500 sedan ['06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLS550 sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7C = CLS550 sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLS55 AMG sedan ['06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = CLS63 AMG sedan ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = CLS63 AMG sedan ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''C218:'''<br> *6F = CLS400 sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = CLS400 4Matic sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = CLS550 sedan ['12-'18] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = CLS63 AMG sedan ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = CLS63 AMG S 4Matic sedan ['14-'18] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *9B = CLS550 4Matic sedan ['12-'18] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9C = CLS63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''C257:'''<br> *5J = CLS450 sedan ['19-'21] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = CLS450 4Matic sedan ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG CLS53 4Matic sedan ['19-'21] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X290:'''<br> *5K = AMG GT43 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GT53 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8J = AMG GT63 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-'21, '23-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8K = AMG GT63 S 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT63 S E Performance 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''V295:'''<br> *2B = EQE350+ sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 288 hp) *1C = EQE350 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) *2C = EQE500 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 402 hp) *5D = AMG EQE 4Matic+ sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 617 hp) '''W126/V126//C126:'''<br> following CA in pos. 4-5: *24 = 300SE ['88-'91] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *25 = 300SEL ['88-'91] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *32 = 380SE ['84-'85] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *33 = 380SEL ['81-'83] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *35 = 420SEL ['86-'91] (4.2-liter M116 V8) *37 = 500SEL ['84-'85] (5.0-liter M117 V8) *39 = 560SEL ['86-'91] (5.5-liter M117 V8) *43 = 380SEC ['82-'83] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *44 = 500SEC ['84-'85] (5.0-liter M117 V8) *45 = 560SEC ['86-'91] (5.5-liter M117 V8) following CB in pos. 4-5: *20 = 300SD Turbodiesel ['81-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *25 = 300SDL Turbodiesel ['86-'87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *34 = 350SD Turbodiesel ['91] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *35 = 350SDL Turbodiesel ['90-'91] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) '''W140/V140/C140:'''<br> following GA in pos. 4-5: *32 = 300SE ['92-'93], S320 sedan SWB ['94-'99] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *33 = S320 sedan LWB ['95-'99] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *42 = 400SE ['92] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *43 = 400SEL ['93], S420 ['94-'99] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *51 = 500SEL ['92-'93], S500 sedan ['94-'99] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *57 = 600SEL ['92-'93], S600 sedan ['94-'99] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) *70 = 500SEC ['93], S500 coupe ['94-'97], CL500 ['98-'99] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *76 = 600SEC ['93], S600 coupe ['94-'97], CL600 ['98-'99] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) following GB in pos. 4-5: *34 = 300SD Turbodiesel ['92-'93], S350 Turbodiesel ['94-'95] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) '''V220:'''<br> following NG in pos. 4-5: *70 = S430 ['00-'06] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *73 = S55 AMG ['01-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = S55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *75 = S500 ['00-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *78 = S600 ['01-'02] (5.8-liter SOHC, 36-valve M137 V12) *76 = S600 ['03-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = S65 AMG ['06] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *83 = S430 4Matic ['03-'06] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *84 = S500 4Matic ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''W220:'''<br> following NF in pos. 4-5: *67 = S350 ['06] (3.7-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''C215:'''<br> *73 = CL55 AMG ['01-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CL55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *75 = CL500 ['00-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *78 = CL600 ['01-'02] (5.8-liter SOHC, 36-valve M137 V12) *76 = CL600 ['03-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = CL65 AMG ['05-'06] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) '''V221:'''<br> following NG in pos. 4-5: *71 = S550 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7B = S550 ['10-'11] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7D = S550 ['12-'13] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *76 = S600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *7G = S600 ['10-'13] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = S63 AMG ['08-09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7H = S63 AMG ['10] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7E = S63 AMG ['11-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *79 = S65 AMG ['07-09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = S65 AMG ['10-'13] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *8D = S350 Bluetec 4Matic ['12-'13] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *86 = S550 4Matic ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *8G = S550 4Matic ['10-'11] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *9E = S550 4Matic ['12-'13] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9F = S400 Hybrid ['10-'13] (Mild Hybrid: 3.5-liter M272 90° Atkinson-cycle V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C216:'''<br> *71 = CL550 ['07-'08] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *76 = CL600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *7G = CL600 ['10-'14] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = CL63 AMG ['08-'09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7H = CL63 AMG ['10] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7E = CL63 AMG ['11-'14] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *79 = CL65 AMG ['08-'09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = CL65 AMG ['10-'14] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *86 = CL550 4Matic ['09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *8G = CL550 4Matic ['10] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *9E = CL550 4Matic ['11-'14] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) '''V222:'''<br> following UG in pos. 4-5: *6D = S550 Plug-in Hybrid ['15], S550e ['16-'17] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7D = S560e ['19-'20] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6G = S450 sedan ['18-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6E = S450 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8C = S550 sedan ['14-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8D = S560 sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *8F = S550 4Matic sedan ['14-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = S560 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7G = S600 sedan ['15-'17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M277 V12) *7K = S65 AMG sedan ['15-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''X222:'''<br> following UX in pos. 4-5: *8F = Mercedes-Maybach S550 4Matic sedan ['17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = Mercedes-Maybach S560 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7G = Mercedes-Maybach S600 sedan ['16-'17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M277 V12) *8A = Mercedes-Maybach S650 sedan ['18-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''C217:'''<br> following XJ in pos. 4-5: *8F = S550 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = S560 4Matic coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = S65 AMG coupe ['15-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''A217:'''<br> following XK in pos. 4-5: *8C = S550 convertible ['17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8D = S560 convertible ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic convertible ['17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic convertible ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = S65 AMG convertible ['17-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) *7K = Mercedes-Maybach S650 convertible ['17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''V223:'''<br> following 6G in pos. 4-5: *6D = S500 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6K = S580e 4Matic sedan ['23-] (PHEV: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7G = S580 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8C = AMG S63 E Performance 4Matic+ ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''Z223:'''<br> following 6X in pos. 4-5: *7G = Mercedes-Maybach S580 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7K = Mercedes-Maybach S680 4Matic sedan ['22-] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''V297:'''<br> *2D = EQS450+ sedan ['22-'23] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 329 hp) *2D = EQS450+ sedan ['24-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 355 hp) *2E = EQS450 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 355 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic sedan ['22-'23] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 516 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic sedan ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 536 hp) *5F = AMG EQS 4Matic+ sedan ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 649 hp) '''W240:'''<br> following VF in pos. 4-5: *78 = Maybach 57 ['04-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *7J = Maybach 57 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *79 = Maybach 57S ['06-'09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7K = Maybach 57S ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 57S Zeppelin ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 57S ['11-'12] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) '''V240:'''<br> following VG in pos. 4-5: *78 = Maybach 62 ['04-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *7J = Maybach 62 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *79 = Maybach 62S ['07-'09], 62S Landaulet ('09) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7K = Maybach 62S ['10], 62S Landaulet ('10) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 62S Zeppelin ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 62S ['11-'12], 62S Landaulet ('11-'12) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) '''C208/A208:'''<br> *65 = CLK320 ['98-'02 coupe, '99-'03 convertible] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *70 = CLK430 ['99-'02 coupe, '00-'03 convertible] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CLK55 AMG ['01-'02 coupe, '02 convertible] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''C209/A209:'''<br> *65 = CLK320 ['03-'05 coupe, '04-'05 convertible] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = CLK350 ['06-'09 coupe, '06-'09 convertible] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = CLK500 ['03-'06 coupe, '04-'06 convertible] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLK550 ['07-'09 coupe, '07-'09 convertible] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLK55 AMG ['03-'05 coupe, '04-'06 convertible] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = CLK63 AMG ['07-'08 convertible] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *77 = CLK63 AMG Black Series ['08 coupe] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''C207/A207:'''<br> following KJ in pos. 4-5: *5G = E350 coupe ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 coupe ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 coupe ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 coupe ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7D = E550 coupe ['12-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8J = E350 4Matic coupe ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) following KK in pos. 4-5: *5G = E350 convertible ['11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 convertible ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 convertible ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 convertible ['11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7D = E550 convertible ['12-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) '''C238/A238:'''<br> following 1J in pos. 4-5: *6F = E400 coupe ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = E400 4Matic coupe ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E450 coupe ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic coupe ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5J = E450 coupe ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = E450 4Matic coupe ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic coupe ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following 1K in pos. 4-5: *6F = E400 convertible ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = E400 4Matic convertible ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E450 convertible ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic convertible ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5J = E450 convertible ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = E450 4Matic convertible ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic convertible ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C236/A236:'''<br> following MJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = CLE300 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = CLE450 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6C = AMG CLE53 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following MK in pos. 4-5: *4H = CLE300 4Matic convertible ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = CLE450 4Matic convertible ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6C = AMG CLE53 4Matic convertible ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''R170:'''<br> *47 = SLK230 Kompressor ['98-'00] (2.3-liter M111.973 supercharged I4) *49 = SLK230 Kompressor ['01-'04] (2.3-liter M111.983 supercharged I4) *65 = SLK320 ['01-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *66 = SLK32 AMG ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 supercharged 90° V6) '''R171:'''<br> *54 = SLK280 ['06-'08], SLK300 ['09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *5E = SLK300 ['10-'11] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = SLK350 ['05-'08] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *58 = SLK350 ['09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5J = SLK350 ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *73 = SLK55 AMG ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *7D = SLK55 AMG ['10] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''R172:'''<br> *4H = SLK250 ['12-'15] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *3J = SLK300 ['16], SLC300 ['17-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *5H = SLK350 ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = SLC43 AMG ['17-'20] (3.0-liter twin-turbocharged M276 60° GDI V6) *7F = SLK55 AMG ['12-'16] (5.5-liter M152 GDI V8) '''R107:'''<br> *45 = 380SL ['81-'85] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *48 = 560SL ['86-'89] (5.5-liter M117 V8) '''C107:'''<br> *25 = 380SLC ['81] (3.8-liter M116 V8) '''R129:'''<br> *61 = 300SL ['90-'93] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *63 = SL320 ['94-'97] (3.2-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *66 = 500SL ['90-'92] (5.0-liter DOHC, 32-valve M119 V8) *67 = 500SL ['93], SL500 ['94-'98] (5.0-liter DOHC, 32-valve M119 V8) *68 = SL500 ['99-'02] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *76 = 600SL ['93], SL600 ['94-'02] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) '''R230:'''<br> following SK in pos. 4-5: *75 = SL500 ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *71 = SL550 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7B = SL550 ['11-'12] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *74 = SL55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *72 = SL55 AMG ['07-'08] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *70 = SL63 AMG ['09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7A = SL63 AMG ['11-'12] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *76 = SL600 ['04-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = SL600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = SL65 AMG ['05-'09], SL65 AMG Black Series ['09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = SL65 AMG ['11] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) '''R231:'''<br> following JK in pos. 4-5: *6F = SL400 ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = SL450 ['17-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = SL550 ['13-'20] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = SL63 AMG ['13-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7K = SL65 AMG ['13-'18] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''R232:'''<br> following VK in pos. 4-5: *5A = AMG SL43 ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 2 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG SL55 4Matic+ ['22-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8B = AMG SL63 4Matic+ ['22-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8C = AMG SL63 S E Performance 4Matic+ ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C199/R199:'''<br> *76 = SLR McLaren ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M155 V8) '''C197/R197:'''<br> *7H = SLS AMG ['11-'12] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7J = SLS AMG GT ['13-'15] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7H = SLS AMG Black Series ['14] (6.2-liter M159 V8) '''C190:'''<br> following YJ in pos. 4-5: *7H = AMG GT 2-d coupe (base model) ['17-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT 2-d coupe (base model) ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *AJ = AMG GT 2-d coupe S ['16] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7J = AMG GT 2-d coupe S ['16-'19] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8A = AMG GT 2-d coupe C ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d coupe R ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d coupe R Pro ['20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8B = AMG GT 2-d coupe Black Series ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 LS2 GDI flat-plane crank V8) '''R190:'''<br> following YK in pos. 4-5: *7H = AMG GT roadster (base model) ['17-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT roadster (base model) ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8A = AMG GT roadster C ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d roadster R ['20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) '''C192:'''<br> following RJ in pos. 4-5: *4C = AMG GT43 coupe ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 2 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GT55 4Matic+ coupe ['24-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7J = AMG GT63 4Matic+ coupe ['24-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT63 S E Performance 4Matic+ coupe ['25-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8J = AMG GT63 Pro 4Matic+ coupe ['25-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''X156:'''<br> *4E = GLA250 ['15-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *4G = GLA250 4Matic ['15-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *5C = GLA45 AMG 4Matic ['15-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI AMG M133 I4) '''H247:'''<br> *4G = GLA250 ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = GLA250 ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLA250 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = GLA250 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG GLA35 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG GLA35 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5D = AMG GLA45 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) '''X247:'''<br> *4G = GLB250 ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = GLB250 ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLB250 4Matic ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = GLB250 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG GLB35 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG GLB35 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X243:'''<br> *0C = EQB250+ ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 front motor, Fwd, 188 hp) *0K = EQB300 4Matic ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 225 hp) *1D = EQB350 4Matic ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) '''X204:'''<br> *0E = GLK250 Bluetec 4Matic ['13-'15] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5G = GLK350 2wd ['10-'12] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = GLK350 2wd ['13-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *8H = GLK350 4Matic ['10-'12] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = GLK350 4Matic ['13-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) '''X253:'''<br> following 0G in pos. 4-5: *4J = GLC300 2wd ['16-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = GLC300 4Matic ['16-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = GLC300 2wd ['20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = GLC300 4Matic ['20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *5E = GLC350e 4Matic ['18-'19] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + 114 hp electric motor, 8.7 kWh lithium-ion battery) *5D = GLC350e 4Matic ['20] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + 121 hp electric motor, 13.5 kWh lithium-ion battery) *6E = AMG GLC43 4Matic ['17-'22] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8J = AMG GLC63 4Matic ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''C253:'''<br> following 0J in pos. 4-5: *4K = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8E = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG GLC43 4Matic Coupe ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8J = AMG GLC63 4Matic Coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8K = AMG GLC63 S 4Matic Coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''X254:'''<br> following KM in pos. 4-5: *4G = GLC300 2wd ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLC300 4Matic ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5G = GLC350e 4Matic ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG GLC43 4Matic ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GLC63 S E Performance 4Matic ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''C254:'''<br> following KJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG GLC43 4Matic Coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GLC63 S E Performance 4Matic Coupe ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''W163:'''<br> *54 = ML320 ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *57 = ML350 ['03-'05] (3.7-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *72 = ML430 ['99-'01] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = ML55 AMG ['00-'03] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *75 = ML500 ['02-'05] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''W164:'''<br> *22 = ML320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = ML320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = ML350 Bluetec ['10-'11] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *56 = ML350 2wd ['09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5G = ML350 2wd ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *86 = ML350 4Matic ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8G = ML350 4Matic ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = ML500 ['06-'07] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = ML550 ['08-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7C = ML550 ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *77 = ML63 AMG ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = ML63 AMG ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *9F = ML450 Hybrid 4Matic ['10-'11] (2-Mode Hybrid: 3.5-liter Atkinson-cycle M272 90° V6 + 2 electric motors, Nickel–metal hydride battery) '''W166:'''<br> following DA in pos. 4-5: *2E = ML350 Bluetec ['12-'14 & '15 in Canada], GLE350d [Canada only: '16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *0E = ML250 Bluetec ['15], GLE300d ['16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5J = ML350 2wd ['13-'15], GLE350 2wd ['16-'18] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *5H = ML350 4Matic ['12-'15], GLE350 4Matic ['16-'18] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *5G = ML400 4Matic ['15], GLE400 4Matic ['16-'17 & '19, Canada only: '18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6D = GLE550e 4Matic ['16-'18] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6E = GLE450 AMG Sport 4Matic [Canada only: '16], AMG GLE43 4Matic ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = ML550 ['12-'14 & '15 in Canada], GLE550 [Canada only: '16-'19] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = ML63 AMG ['12-'15], AMG GLE63 ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = AMG GLE63 S ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''C292:'''<br> following ED in pos. 4-5: *2E = GLE350d Coupe [Canada only: '16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *6E = GLE450 AMG Sport 4Matic Coupe ['16], AMG GLE43 4Matic Coupe ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7F = AMG GLE63 S Coupe ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''W167:'''<br> following FB in pos. 4-5: *4J = GLE350 2wd ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *4K = GLE350 4Matic ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *4E = GLE350 2wd ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4F = GLE350 4Matic ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4G = GLE450e 4Matic ['24-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = GLE450 ['20-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GLE53 ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8G = GLE580 ['20-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8F = GLE580 ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLE63 S ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C167:'''<br> following FD in pos. 4-5: *5K = GLE450 Coupe [Canada only: '22-'24, US & Canada: '25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GLE53 Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLE63 S Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X294:'''<br> *2B = EQE350+ SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 288 hp) *1C = EQE350 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) *2C = EQE500 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 402 hp) *5D = AMG EQE 4Matic+ SUV ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 617 hp) '''V251:'''<br> *22 = R320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = R320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = R350 Bluetec ['10-'12 & '13 in Canada] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *56 = R350 2wd ['08] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *65 = R350 4Matic ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *6F = R350 4Matic ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = R350 4Matic ['12 & '13 in Canada] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *75 = R500 ['06-'07] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = R63 AMG ['07] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''X164:'''<br> *22 = GL320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = GL320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = GL350 Bluetec ['10-'12] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *71 = GL450 ['07-'09] (4.7-liter M273 V8) *7B = GL450 ['10-'12] (4.7-liter M273 V8) *86 = GL550 ['08-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *8G = GL550 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter M273 V8) '''X166:'''<br> *2E = GL350 Bluetec ['13-'16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *7C = GL450 ['13-'14] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8 - detuned version) *6E = GL450 ['15-'16], GLS450 ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = GL550 ['13-'16], GLS550 ['17-'19] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = GL63 AMG ['13-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = AMG GLS63 ['17-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''X167:'''<br> *5K = GLS450 ['20-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8G = GLS580 ['20-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8F = GLS580 ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = Mercedes-Maybach GLS600 ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLS63 4MATIC+ ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X296:'''<br> *2D = EQS450+ SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 355 hp) *2E = EQS450 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 355 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 536 hp) '''Z296:'''<br> *5F = Mercedes-Maybach EQS680 4Matic SUV ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 649 hp) '''W463 (1st gen.):'''<br> *49 = G500 ['02-'08] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *37 = G550 ['09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *3H = G550 ['10-'15] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *3K = G550 ['16-'18] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *5F = G550 4x4² ['17-'18] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *46 = G55 AMG ['03-'04] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *71 = G55 AMG ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *7B = G55 AMG ['10-'11] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *7D = G63 AMG ['13-'18] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = G65 AMG ['16-'18] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''W463 (2nd gen.):'''<br> *6B = G550 ['19-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7H = AMG G63 ['19-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8A = AMG G63 4x4² ['22-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W465:'''<br> following WH in pos. 4-5: *1A = G550 ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5A = AMG G63 ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''N465:'''<br> following WM in pos. 4-5: *0A = G580 with EQ Technology ['25-] (battery-electric, 4 motors, 4wd, 579 hp) ===Position 8=== Passenger cars - Restraint system: * A 3-point seat belts for outboard passengers, center rear lap belt * B seat belt + emergency pretensioners for front passenger seat & driver-side front airbag * C seat belt + emergency pretensioners for both front seats * D seat belt + emergency pretensioners for both front seats, driver-side front air bag and knee bolster * E seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear lap belt (SL-Class does not have rear seats) * F seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt (SL-Class & SLK-Class do not have rear seats) ['96-'98 210-series E-class sedan, '98-'99 210-series E-class wagon, '96- R129 SL-Class, '98- R170 SLK-Class] * G seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear lap belt (CL-Class & CLK-Class do not have center rear seat position) ['97-'99 140-series S-class, '98-'00 202-series C-Class, '98-'02 208-series CLK-Class coupe, '99-'03 208-series CLK-Class convertible] * H seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, front to rear side curtain airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt ['99 210-series E-Class sedan] * J seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, front to rear side curtain airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt ['00- 210-series E-Class, '00- 220-series S-Class, '00- 215-series CL-Class, '01- 203-series C-Class, '03- 209-series CLK-Class coupe] SUVs - GVWR ('98-'09): * E = Class E: 6001-7000 lbs. ('98-'09 M-Class, '02-'09 G-Class, '06-'09 R-Class, '07-'09 GL-Class) SUVs - Restraint system & GVWR ('10-): ===Position 9, Check Digit=== [[Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Check digit |Check digit]] ===Position 10, Model Year: === [[Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Model year|Model year]] ===Position 11, Production Plant:=== * A-D: Sindelfingen, Germany * E: Sindelfingen, Germany (through 2000) * E: Juiz de Fora, Minas Gerais, Brazil (from 2001) * E: Mishawaka, Indiana, US (AM General plant) ('16-'17 R-Class for China) * F-H: Bremen, Germany * J, K: Rastatt, Germany * L: Pekan, Pahang, Malaysia (HICOM Automotive Manufacturers plant) * M: Woking, England, UK (SLR McLaren) (McLaren Automotive plant) * N, P: Kecskemet, Hungary * R, S: East London, South Africa * T: Osnabrück, Germany (Karmann plant) * U: Sindelfingen, Germany * V: Uusikaupunki, Finland (Valmet Automotive plant) * W: Aguascalientes, Mexico (COMPAS plant) * X: Graz, Austria (Magna Steyr plant) * 1: Pune, Maharashtra, India For 4JG and 55S: * A, B, U: Vance, Alabama, US ===Positions 12–17, Serial Number=== ==Commercial Vehicles== Position 1-3 * WDB - Daimler-Benz AG, DaimlerChrysler AG, Daimler AG * VSA - Mercedes-Benz Espana SA (1st gen. Vito/V-Class - W638) * WDF - DaimlerChrysler AG, Daimler AG (Citan, Vito/V-Class & X-Class) * W1T - Daimler AG (Daimler Truck Holding AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz truck) * W1V - Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz van) Position 4–6, Model *414 - Vaneo *415 - Mark 1 Citan *420 - Mark 2 Citan *447 - Mark 3 Vito *470 - X-Class *638 - Mark 1 Vito *639 - Mark 2 Vito *670 - Vario *901 - Sprinter T1N *902 - Sprinter T1N *903 - Sprinter T1N *904 - Sprinter T1N *905 - Sprinter T1N *906 - Sprinter NCV3 *907 - Sprinter VS30 (RWD) *910 - Sprinter VS30 (FWD) *930 - Actros Rigids *933 - Actros MP2 concrete mixer *934 - Actros MP2 tractor *944 - Axor Tractor *950 - Axor Rigids / Actros Mk1 Rigids *952 - Axor *954 - Actros Mk1 Tractor *956 - Econic *963 - NEW ACTROS MP4 (Common-Rail engine) / Antos *964 - NEW ACTROS MP4 (Common-Rail engine) / Arocs *967 - Atego *970 - Atego *972 - Atego *976 - Atego Fire Position 7–9, Weight and Length code Position 10, Drive indicator *1 Left hand drive *2 Right hand drive Position 11, Plant code * E: Buenos Aires, Argentina * G: Barcelona, Spain (Nissan plant) (X-Class pickup) * N: Ludwigsfelde, Germany * P, R, S: Dusseldorf, Germany * T: Ladson, South Carolina, US * U: Maubeuge, France (Renault plant) (Citan, T-Class, EQT) * V: Worth, Germany * 3: Vitoria, Spain * 4: Vitoria, Spain (When Position 1-3 is W1V) * 4: Worth, Germany * 5: Dusseldorf, Germany * 9: Ludwigsfelde, Germany Position 12–17, Serial Number Position 18, Check Digit ==External links== Online [http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz Vito decoder] WDB1260251A336981 {{BookCat}} 237i3rue4ibvvmg0hixl64kuich9ok7 4520863 4520862 2025-07-01T20:44:49Z JustTheFacts33 3434282 /* Positions 6–7, Model within the series: */ 4520863 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Warning}}{{clear}} Mercedes-Benz uses the following VIN formats: (Note) This chart is not applicable to Mercedes-Benz products made for markets other than North America. European/World market cars use a different system for encoding VIN numbers. ==1960-1980== Position 1-3 - chassis code (e.g. 107, 116, 123, etc.) Position 4-6 - model type (e.g. 024, 032, 033, 036, 044, 045, etc.) Position 7 - 1=LH Drive (made in Germany), 2=RH Drive (made in Germany), 5=LH Drive CKD, 6=RH Drive CKD (Complete Knocked Down, assembled outside Germany)1 Position 8 - 0=Manual transmission, 1=Hydraulic clutch, 2= Automatic transmission 2 (Alphabetics indicate Plant of Manufacture i.e.: A = Sindelfingen) Position 9-14 - Construction serial number 10704312006193 ==Passenger Vehicles 1981-== ===Positions 1–3, World Manufacturer Identifier:=== * WDB Daimler-Benz AG (DaimlerChrysler after 1998) (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz or Maybach passenger car) * WDC DaimlerChrysler AG (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * WDD DaimlerChrysler AG (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) * W1K Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) * W1N Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * 4JG Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * 55S Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) ===Position 4, Model or Series:=== * A W123 300-Class * B R107 SL-Class * B C107 SLC-Class * C W126/C126 S-Class * D W201 190-Class * E W124 300-Class/E-Class * F R129 SL-Class * G W140/C140 S-Class, C140 CL-Class * H W202 C-Class * J W210 E-Class * K R170 SLK-Class * L C208/A208 CLK-Class * N W220 S-Class * P C215 CL-Class * R W203 C-Class * S R230 SL-Class * T C209/A209 CLK-Class * U W211 E-Class * W R171 SLK-Class *---------------------------------- * A C199/R199/Z199 SLR McLaren * D C219 CLS-Class * E C216 CL-Class * F W245 B-Class (Canada only) * G W204 C-Class * H W212/S212 E-Class sedan/wagon * J R231 SL-Class * K C207/A207 E-Class coupe/convertible * L C218 CLS-Class * M W246 B-Class (Canada only) * N W221 S-Class * P R172 SLK-Class/SLC-Class * R C197/R197 SLS AMG * S C117 CLA-Class * U W222 S-Class sedan * V W240 Maybach 57/62 * V N242 B-Class Electric * W W205 C-Class * X C217/A217 S-Class coupe/convertible * Y C190/R190 AMG GT coupe/roadster * Z W213/S213/X213 E-Class sedan/wagon/All-Terrain wagon * 1 C238/A238 E-Class coupe/convertible * 2 C257 CLS-Class * 3 V177 A-Class sedan * 3 W177 A-Class hatchback (Canada only) * 5 C118 CLA-Class * 6 W223 S-Class sedan * 7 X290 AMG GT 4-door coupe * A W206 C-Class * C V297 EQS-Class sedan * E V295 EQE-Class sedan * L W214/X214 E-Class sedan/All-Terrain wagon * M C236/A236 CLE-Class coupe/convertible * R C192 AMG GT coupe * V R232 SL-Class *---------------------------------- * A W163 M-Class * B W164 M-Class * B X164 GL-Class * C W251 R-Class * D W166 M-Class/GLE-Class * D X166 GL-Class/GLS-Class * D X296 EQS-Class SUV * E C292 GLE-Class Coupe * F W167/C167 GLE-Class * F X167 GLS-Class * G X204 GLK-Class * 0 X253/C253 GLC-Class * G X294 EQE-Class SUV * K X254/C254 GLC-Class * T X156 GLA-Class * Y W463 G-Class * W W465 G-Class * 4 H247 GLA-Class * 4 X247 GLB-Class * 9 X243 EQB-Class ===Position 5, Body Style:=== Passenger Cars: * B = Long Body * F = Sedan ('96+ E-Class, '01+ C-Class, '06 S-Class [S350], Maybach 57) * F = 5-door hatchback (Canada only: '19-'22 A-Class) * G = Sedan Long Wheelbase ('00+ S-Class, Maybach 62) * G = Sedan ('19-'22 A-Class sedan) * H = Wagon ('98-'09, '11- E-Class wagon, '02-'05 C-Class wagon, Canada only: '19-'21 C-Class wagon) * H = "Sedan" [5-door hatchback/compact minivan] ('06-'11, '13-'19 B-Class [gas engine] - Canada only) * J = 2-door Coupe ('98-'09 CLK-Class Coupe, '12-'15, '17-'23 C-Class coupe, '10-'23 E-Class coupe, '24- CLE-Class coupe, '00-'14 CL-Class, '15-'21 S-Class coupe, '05-'07 SLR McLaren coupe, '11-'15 SLS AMG coupe, '16-'21, '24- AMG GT coupe) * J = 4-door Coupe ('06-'23 CLS-Class, '14- CLA-Class) * K = Cabriolet/Roadster ('99-'09 CLK-Class Cabriolet, '17-'23 C-Class Cabriolet, '11-'23 E-Class Cabriolet, '24- CLE-Class Cabriolet, '17-'21 S-Class Cabriolet, '98-'16 SLK-Class, '17-'20 SLC-Class, '03+ SL-Class, '08-'09 SLR McLaren roadster, '12-'15 SLS AMG roadster, '18-'21 AMG GT roadster) * N = "Coupe" [3-door hatchback] ('02-'05 C-Class Sport Coupe) * P = "Sedan" [5-door hatchback/compact minivan] (B-Class Electric) * X = 4-door Coupe [5-door hatchback] ('19- AMG GT 4-door Coupe) SUVs: * A = 4-door MPV ('12-'15 M-Class, '16-'19 GLE-Class wagon) * B = 4-door MPV ('98-'11 M-Class) * B = 4-door MPV ('20-' GLE-Class wagon) * B = 4-door MPV ('06-'13 R-Class) * C = 4-door MPV ('10-'24 G-Class) * D = 4-door MPV ('16-'19, '21- GLE-Class Coupe) * F = 4-door MPV ('07-'16 GL-Class, '17- GLS-Class) * G = 4-door MPV ('10-'15 GLK-Class, '16-'22 GLC-Class wagon) * G = 4-door MPV ('15-'20 GLA-Class) * H = 4-door MPV ('25- G550, G63 AMG) * J = 4-door MPV ('17- GLC-Class Coupe) * M = 4-door MPV ('20- GLB-Class, '22- EQB-Class) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- GLC-Class wagon) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- EQE-Class SUV) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- EQS-Class SUV) * M = 4-door MPV ('25- G580 EQ [EV]) * N = 4-door MPV ('21- GLA-Class) * R = 4-door MPV ('02-'09 G-Class) On older models, this indicated the engine type, through much of the 1990s and into the 2000's for some models: * A = Gasoline (190 Class '84-'93, C-Class '94-'00, 300 Class '81, '86-'93, E-Class '94-'95, S-Class '81-'99, CL-Class '98-'99, SL-Class '81-'02, SLC '81) * B = Diesel (190 Class '84-'89, 300 Class '81-'85, '87, '90-'93, E-Class '95, S-Class '81-'87, '90-'95) * D = 4Matic Gasoline ('90-'93 300E 4Matic, 300TE 4Matic) * M = AMG Gasoline ('95-'97 C36 AMG only) ===Positions 6–7, Model within the series:=== '''V177:'''<br> *4E = A220 sedan ['19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4F = A220 4Matic sedan ['19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG A35 4Matic sedan ['20-'21 & in Canada: '22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) '''W177:'''<br> *4G = A250 hatchback [Canada only: '19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = A250 4Matic hatchback [Canada only: '19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG A35 4Matic hatchback [Canada only: '20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) '''W245:'''<br> *33 = B200 [Canada only: '06-'09] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve M266.980 I4 *3D = B200 [Canada only: '10-'11] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve M266.980 I4 *34 = B200 Turbo [Canada only: '06-'09] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve turbo M266.980 I4 *3E = B200 Turbo [Canada only: '10-'11] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve turbo M266.980 I4 *8G = B-Class F-Cell (hydrogen fuel cell) '''W246:'''<br> *4E = B250 [Canada only: '13-'19] 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve turbo M270 I4 *4G = B250 4Matic [Canada only: '15-'19] 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve turbo M270 I4 '''N242:'''<br> *9A = B-Class Electric Drive ['14-'15], B250e ['16-'17] (Tesla front electric motor, Lithium-ion battery pack, fwd, 177 hp) '''C117:'''<br> *4E = CLA250 sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *4G = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *5C = CLA45 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI AMG M133 I4) '''C118:'''<br> *4G = CLA250 sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = CLA250 sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG CLA35 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG CLA35 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5D = AMG CLA45 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) *5E = AMG CLA45 S 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) '''W201:'''<br> following DA in pos. 4-5: *24 = 190E 2.3 ['84-'86] (2.3-liter SOHC, 8 valve M102 I4) *28 = 190E 2.3 ['87-'88, '91-'93] (2.3-liter SOHC, 8 valve M102 I4) *29 = 190E 2.6 ['87-'93] (2.6-liter M103 I6) *34 = 190E 2.3-16 ['86-'87] (2.3-liter DOHC, 16 valve M102 I4) following DB in pos. 4-5: *22 = 190D 2.2 ['84-'85] (2.2-liter OM601 diesel I4) *26 = 190D 2.5 ['86-'89] (2.5-liter OM602 diesel I5) *28 = 190D 2.5 Turbo ['87] (2.5-liter OM602 turbodiesel I5) '''W202:'''<br> following HA in pos. 4-5: *22 = C220 ['94-'96] (2.2-liter M111 I4) *23 = C230 ['97-'98] (2.3-liter M111 I4) *24 = C230 Kompressor ['99-'00] (2.3-liter supercharged M111 I4) *28 = C280 ['94-'97] (2.8-liter M104 I6) *29 = C280 ['98-'00] (2.8-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *33 = C43 AMG ['98-'00] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113.944 V8) following HM in pos. 4-5: *36 = C36 AMG ['95-'97] (3.6-liter M104 AMG I6) '''W203/S203/CL203:'''<br> following RF in pos. 4-5: *40 = C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan ['03-'05] (1.8-liter supercharged M271 I4) *52 = C230 Sport Sedan ['06-'07] (2.5-liter M272 90° V6) *54 = C280 sedan ['06-'07] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = C350 sedan ['06-'07] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *61 = C240 sedan ['01-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *64 = C320 sedan ['01-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *65 = C32 AMG sedan ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve supercharged M112 90° V6) *76 = C55 AMG ['05-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *81 = C240 4Matic sedan ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *84 = C320 4Matic sedan ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *87 = C350 4Matic sedan ['06-'07] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *92 = C280 4Matic sedan ['06-'07] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) following RH in pos. 4-5: *61 = C240 wagon ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *64 = C320 wagon ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *81 = C240 4Matic wagon ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *84 = C320 4Matic wagon ['03-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) following RN in pos. 4-5: *47 = C230 Kompressor Sport Coupe ['02] (2.3-liter supercharged M111 I4) *40 = C230 Kompressor Sport Coupe ['03-'05] (1.8-liter supercharged M271 I4) *64 = C320 Sport Coupe ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''W204/C204:'''<br> following GF in pos. 4-5: *4H = C250 sedan ['12-'14] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *54 = C300 sedan ['08-'09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *5E = C300 sedan ['10-'11] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = C350 sedan ['08-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5G = C350 sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = C350 sedan ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *77 = C63 AMG sedan ['08-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = C63 AMG sedan ['10-'14], C63 AMG Edition 507 ['14] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *81 = C300 4Matic sedan ['08-'09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *8B = C300 4Matic sedan ['10-'12] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *8A = C300 4Matic sedan ['13-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 - detuned version) following GJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = C250 coupe ['12-'15] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *5H = C350 coupe ['12-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *7H = C63 AMG coupe ['12-'15], C63 AMG Black Series coupe ['12-'13], C63 AMG Edition 507 ['14-'15] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *8J = C350 4Matic coupe ['12-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) '''W205/S205/C205/A205:'''<br> following WF in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 sedan ['15-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic sedan ['15-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4H = C350e sedan ['16-'18] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8D = C300 sedan ['19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic sedan ['19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6G = C400 4Matic sedan ['15] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6E = C450 AMG Sport 4Matic sedan ['16], AMG C43 4Matic sedan ['17-'21] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 sedan ['15-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S sedan ['15-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following WH in pos. 4-5: *4K = C300 4Matic wagon [Canada: '18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic wagon [Canada: '19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic wagon [Canada: '19-'21] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) following WJ in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 coupe ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic coupe ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = C300 coupe ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic coupe ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic coupe ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 coupe ['17-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S coupe ['17-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following WK in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 convertible ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic convertible ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = C300 convertible ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic convertible ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic convertible ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 convertible ['17-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S convertible ['17-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W206:'''<br> following AF in pos. 4-5: *4G = C300 sedan ['22-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = C300 4Matic sedan ['22-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG C43 4Matic+ sedan ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG C63 S E Performance 4Matic sedan ['24-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''W123/S123/C123:'''<br> following AA in pos. 4-5: *33 = 280E ['81] (2.7-liter DOHC, 12-valve M110.984 I6) *53 = 280CE ['81] (2.7-liter DOHC, 12-valve M110.984 I6) following AB in pos. 4-5: *23 = 240D ['81-'83] (2.4-liter OM616 diesel I4) *30 = 300D ['81] (3.0-liter OM617 diesel I5) *33 = 300D Turbodiesel ['82-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *50 = 300CD ['81] (3.0-liter OM617 diesel I5) *53 = 300CD Turbodiesel ['82-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *93 = 300TD Turbodiesel ['81-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) '''W124/S124/C124/A124:'''<br> following EA in pos. 4-5: *26 = 260E ['87-'89], 300E 2.6 ['90-'92] (2.6-liter M103 I6) *28 = 300E 2.8 ['93] (2.8-liter M104 I6) *30 = 300E ['86-'92] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *32 = 300E ['93], E320 sedan ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *34 = 400E ['92-'93], E420 sedan ['94-'95] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *36 = 500E ['92-'93], E500 sedan ['94] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *50 = 300CE ['88-'89] (3.0-liter SOHC, 12 valve M103 I6) *51 = 300CE ['90-'92] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *52 = 300CE coupe ['93], E320 coupe ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *66 = 300CE convertible ['93], E320 convertible ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *90 = 300TE ['88-'92] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *92 = 300TE ['93], E320 wagon ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) following EB in pos. 4-5: *28 = 300D 2.5 Turbo ['90-'93] (2.5-liter OM602 turbodiesel I5) *31 = E300 Diesel ['95] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 diesel I6) *33 = 300D Turbo ['87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *93 = 300TD Turbo ['87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) following ED in pos. 4-5: *30 = 300E 4Matic ['90-'93] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *90 = 300TE 4Matic ['90-'93] (3.0-liter M103 I6) '''W210/S210:'''<br> following JF in pos. 4-5: *20 = E300 Diesel ['96-'97] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 diesel I6) *25 = E300 Turbodiesel ['98-'99] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 turbodiesel I6) *55 = E320 ['96-'97] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *65 = E320 sedan ['98-'02] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *72 = E420 ['97] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *70 = E430 ['98-'02] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = E55 AMG ['99-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic sedan ['98-'02] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E430 4Matic ['00-'02] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) following JH in pos. 4-5: *65 = E320 wagon ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *82 = E320 4Matic wagon ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''W211/S211:'''<br> following UF in pos. 4-5: *26 = E320 CDI sedan ['05-'06] (3.2-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM648 turbodiesel I6) *22 = E320 Bluetec sedan ['07-'09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *65 = E320 sedan ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = E350 sedan ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *70 = E500 sedan ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = E550 sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = E55 AMG sedan ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = E63 AMG sedan ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic sedan ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E500 4Matic sedan ['04-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *87 = E350 4Matic sedan ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *90 = E550 4Matic sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) following UH in pos. 4-5: *65 = E320 wagon ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = E350 wagon ['06] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *76 = E55 AMG wagon ['05-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = E63 AMG wagon ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic wagon ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E500 4Matic wagon ['04-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *87 = E350 4Matic wagon ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) '''W212/S212:'''<br> following HF in pos. 4-5: *2E = E350 Bluetec sedan ['11-'13] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *0E = E250 Bluetec sedan ['14-'16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5G = E350 sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 sedan ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7H = E63 AMG sedan ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7E = E63 AMG sedan ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = E63 AMG S 4Matic sedan ['14-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8B = E300 4Matic sedan [Canada only: '12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 - detuned version) *8H = E350 4Matic sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = E350 4Matic sedan ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *9A = E550 4Matic sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *9B = E550 4Matic sedan ['12-'14, Canada only: '15-'16] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9C = E63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'15] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *9F = E400 Hybrid sedan ['13-'15] (Mild Hybrid: 3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *9H = E250 Bluetec 4Matic sedan ['14-'16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve turbodiesel I4) following HH in pos. 4-5: *8H = E350 4Matic wagon ['11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = E350 4Matic wagon ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic wagon [Canada only: '15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7E = E63 AMG wagon ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = E63 AMG S 4Matic wagon ['14-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''W213/S213:'''<br> following ZF in pos. 4-5: *4J = E300 sedan ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = E300 4Matic sedan ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = E350 sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = E350 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6G = E400 4Matic sedan ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic sedan ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5K = E450 4Matic sedan ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6E = AMG E43 4Matic sedan ['17-'18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic sedan ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG E63 S 4Matic sedan ['18-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following ZH in pos. 4-5: *6G = E400 4Matic wagon ['17-'18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic wagon ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6A = E450 4Matic All-Terrain wagon ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG E63 S 4Matic wagon ['18-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W214/S214:'''<br> following LF in pos. 4-5: *4G = E350 sedan ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = E350 4Matic sedan ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = E450 4Matic sedan ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6D = AMG E53 4Matic+ Hybrid sedan ['25-] (PHEV: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following LH in pos. 4-5: *6F = E450 4Matic All-Terrain wagon ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C219:'''<br> *75 = CLS500 sedan ['06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLS550 sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7C = CLS550 sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLS55 AMG sedan ['06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = CLS63 AMG sedan ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = CLS63 AMG sedan ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''C218:'''<br> *6F = CLS400 sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = CLS400 4Matic sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = CLS550 sedan ['12-'18] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = CLS63 AMG sedan ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = CLS63 AMG S 4Matic sedan ['14-'18] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *9B = CLS550 4Matic sedan ['12-'18] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9C = CLS63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''C257:'''<br> *5J = CLS450 sedan ['19-'21] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = CLS450 4Matic sedan ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG CLS53 4Matic sedan ['19-'21] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X290:'''<br> *5K = AMG GT43 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GT53 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8J = AMG GT63 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-'21, '23-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8K = AMG GT63 S 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT63 S E Performance 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''V295:'''<br> *2B = EQE350+ sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 288 hp) *1C = EQE350 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) *2C = EQE500 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 402 hp) *5D = AMG EQE 4Matic+ sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 617 hp) '''W126/V126//C126:'''<br> following CA in pos. 4-5: *24 = 300SE ['88-'91] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *25 = 300SEL ['88-'91] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *32 = 380SE ['84-'85] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *33 = 380SEL ['81-'83] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *35 = 420SEL ['86-'91] (4.2-liter M116 V8) *37 = 500SEL ['84-'85] (5.0-liter M117 V8) *39 = 560SEL ['86-'91] (5.5-liter M117 V8) *43 = 380SEC ['82-'83] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *44 = 500SEC ['84-'85] (5.0-liter M117 V8) *45 = 560SEC ['86-'91] (5.5-liter M117 V8) following CB in pos. 4-5: *20 = 300SD Turbodiesel ['81-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *25 = 300SDL Turbodiesel ['86-'87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *34 = 350SD Turbodiesel ['91] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *35 = 350SDL Turbodiesel ['90-'91] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) '''W140/V140/C140:'''<br> following GA in pos. 4-5: *32 = 300SE ['92-'93], S320 sedan SWB ['94-'99] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *33 = S320 sedan LWB ['95-'99] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *42 = 400SE ['92] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *43 = 400SEL ['93], S420 ['94-'99] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *51 = 500SEL ['92-'93], S500 sedan ['94-'99] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *57 = 600SEL ['92-'93], S600 sedan ['94-'99] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) *70 = 500SEC ['93], S500 coupe ['94-'97], CL500 ['98-'99] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *76 = 600SEC ['93], S600 coupe ['94-'97], CL600 ['98-'99] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) following GB in pos. 4-5: *34 = 300SD Turbodiesel ['92-'93], S350 Turbodiesel ['94-'95] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) '''V220:'''<br> following NG in pos. 4-5: *70 = S430 ['00-'06] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *73 = S55 AMG ['01-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = S55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *75 = S500 ['00-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *78 = S600 ['01-'02] (5.8-liter SOHC, 36-valve M137 V12) *76 = S600 ['03-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = S65 AMG ['06] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *83 = S430 4Matic ['03-'06] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *84 = S500 4Matic ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''W220:'''<br> following NF in pos. 4-5: *67 = S350 ['06] (3.7-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''C215:'''<br> *73 = CL55 AMG ['01-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CL55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *75 = CL500 ['00-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *78 = CL600 ['01-'02] (5.8-liter SOHC, 36-valve M137 V12) *76 = CL600 ['03-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = CL65 AMG ['05-'06] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) '''V221:'''<br> following NG in pos. 4-5: *71 = S550 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7B = S550 ['10-'11] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7D = S550 ['12-'13] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *76 = S600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *7G = S600 ['10-'13] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = S63 AMG ['08-09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7H = S63 AMG ['10] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7E = S63 AMG ['11-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *79 = S65 AMG ['07-09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = S65 AMG ['10-'13] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *8D = S350 Bluetec 4Matic ['12-'13] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *86 = S550 4Matic ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *8G = S550 4Matic ['10-'11] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *9E = S550 4Matic ['12-'13] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9F = S400 Hybrid ['10-'13] (Mild Hybrid: 3.5-liter M272 90° Atkinson-cycle V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C216:'''<br> *71 = CL550 ['07-'08] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *76 = CL600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *7G = CL600 ['10-'14] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = CL63 AMG ['08-'09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7H = CL63 AMG ['10] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7E = CL63 AMG ['11-'14] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *79 = CL65 AMG ['08-'09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = CL65 AMG ['10-'14] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *86 = CL550 4Matic ['09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *8G = CL550 4Matic ['10] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *9E = CL550 4Matic ['11-'14] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) '''V222:'''<br> following UG in pos. 4-5: *6D = S550 Plug-in Hybrid ['15], S550e ['16-'17] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7D = S560e ['19-'20] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6G = S450 sedan ['18-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6E = S450 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8C = S550 sedan ['14-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8D = S560 sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *8F = S550 4Matic sedan ['14-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = S560 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7G = S600 sedan ['15-'17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M277 V12) *7K = S65 AMG sedan ['15-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''X222:'''<br> following UX in pos. 4-5: *8F = Mercedes-Maybach S550 4Matic sedan ['17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = Mercedes-Maybach S560 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7G = Mercedes-Maybach S600 sedan ['16-'17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M277 V12) *8A = Mercedes-Maybach S650 sedan ['18-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''C217:'''<br> following XJ in pos. 4-5: *8F = S550 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = S560 4Matic coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = S65 AMG coupe ['15-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''A217:'''<br> following XK in pos. 4-5: *8C = S550 convertible ['17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8D = S560 convertible ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic convertible ['17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic convertible ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = S65 AMG convertible ['17-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) *7K = Mercedes-Maybach S650 convertible ['17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''V223:'''<br> following 6G in pos. 4-5: *6D = S500 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6K = S580e 4Matic sedan ['23-] (PHEV: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7G = S580 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8C = AMG S63 E Performance 4Matic+ ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''Z223:'''<br> following 6X in pos. 4-5: *7G = Mercedes-Maybach S580 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7K = Mercedes-Maybach S680 4Matic sedan ['22-] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''V297:'''<br> *2D = EQS450+ sedan ['22-'23] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 329 hp) *2D = EQS450+ sedan ['24-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 355 hp) *2E = EQS450 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 355 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic sedan ['22-'23] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 516 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic sedan ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 536 hp) *5F = AMG EQS 4Matic+ sedan ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 649 hp) '''W240:'''<br> following VF in pos. 4-5: *78 = Maybach 57 ['04-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *7J = Maybach 57 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *79 = Maybach 57S ['06-'09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7K = Maybach 57S ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 57S Zeppelin ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 57S ['11-'12] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) '''V240:'''<br> following VG in pos. 4-5: *78 = Maybach 62 ['04-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *7J = Maybach 62 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *79 = Maybach 62S ['07-'09], 62S Landaulet ('09) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7K = Maybach 62S ['10], 62S Landaulet ('10) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 62S Zeppelin ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 62S ['11-'12], 62S Landaulet ('11-'12) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) '''C208/A208:'''<br> *65 = CLK320 ['98-'02 coupe, '99-'03 convertible] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *70 = CLK430 ['99-'02 coupe, '00-'03 convertible] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CLK55 AMG ['01-'02 coupe, '02 convertible] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''C209/A209:'''<br> *65 = CLK320 ['03-'05 coupe, '04-'05 convertible] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = CLK350 ['06-'09 coupe, '06-'09 convertible] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = CLK500 ['03-'06 coupe, '04-'06 convertible] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLK550 ['07-'09 coupe, '07-'09 convertible] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLK55 AMG ['03-'05 coupe, '04-'06 convertible] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = CLK63 AMG ['07-'08 convertible] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *77 = CLK63 AMG Black Series ['08 coupe] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''C207/A207:'''<br> following KJ in pos. 4-5: *5G = E350 coupe ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 coupe ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 coupe ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 coupe ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7D = E550 coupe ['12-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8J = E350 4Matic coupe ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) following KK in pos. 4-5: *5G = E350 convertible ['11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 convertible ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 convertible ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 convertible ['11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7D = E550 convertible ['12-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) '''C238/A238:'''<br> following 1J in pos. 4-5: *6F = E400 coupe ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = E400 4Matic coupe ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E450 coupe ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic coupe ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5J = E450 coupe ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = E450 4Matic coupe ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic coupe ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following 1K in pos. 4-5: *6F = E400 convertible ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = E400 4Matic convertible ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E450 convertible ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic convertible ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5J = E450 convertible ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = E450 4Matic convertible ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic convertible ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C236/A236:'''<br> following MJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = CLE300 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = CLE450 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6C = AMG CLE53 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following MK in pos. 4-5: *4H = CLE300 4Matic convertible ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = CLE450 4Matic convertible ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6C = AMG CLE53 4Matic convertible ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''R170:'''<br> *47 = SLK230 Kompressor ['98-'00] (2.3-liter M111.973 supercharged I4) *49 = SLK230 Kompressor ['01-'04] (2.3-liter M111.983 supercharged I4) *65 = SLK320 ['01-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *66 = SLK32 AMG ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 supercharged 90° V6) '''R171:'''<br> *54 = SLK280 ['06-'08], SLK300 ['09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *5E = SLK300 ['10-'11] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = SLK350 ['05-'08] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *58 = SLK350 ['09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5J = SLK350 ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *73 = SLK55 AMG ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *7D = SLK55 AMG ['10] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''R172:'''<br> *4H = SLK250 ['12-'15] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *3J = SLK300 ['16], SLC300 ['17-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *5H = SLK350 ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = SLC43 AMG ['17-'20] (3.0-liter twin-turbocharged M276 60° GDI V6) *7F = SLK55 AMG ['12-'16] (5.5-liter M152 GDI V8) '''R107:'''<br> following BA in pos. 4-5: *45 = 380SL ['81-'85] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *48 = 560SL ['86-'89] (5.5-liter M117 V8) '''C107:'''<br> following BA in pos. 4-5: *25 = 380SLC ['81] (3.8-liter M116 V8) '''R129:'''<br> following FA in pos. 4-5: *61 = 300SL ['90-'93] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *63 = SL320 ['94-'97] (3.2-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *66 = 500SL ['90-'92] (5.0-liter DOHC, 32-valve M119 V8) *67 = 500SL ['93], SL500 ['94-'98] (5.0-liter DOHC, 32-valve M119 V8) *68 = SL500 ['99-'02] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *76 = 600SL ['93], SL600 ['94-'02] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) '''R230:'''<br> following SK in pos. 4-5: *75 = SL500 ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *71 = SL550 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7B = SL550 ['11-'12] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *74 = SL55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *72 = SL55 AMG ['07-'08] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *70 = SL63 AMG ['09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7A = SL63 AMG ['11-'12] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *76 = SL600 ['04-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = SL600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = SL65 AMG ['05-'09], SL65 AMG Black Series ['09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = SL65 AMG ['11] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) '''R231:'''<br> following JK in pos. 4-5: *6F = SL400 ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = SL450 ['17-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = SL550 ['13-'20] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = SL63 AMG ['13-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7K = SL65 AMG ['13-'18] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''R232:'''<br> following VK in pos. 4-5: *5A = AMG SL43 ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 2 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG SL55 4Matic+ ['22-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8B = AMG SL63 4Matic+ ['22-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8C = AMG SL63 S E Performance 4Matic+ ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C199/R199:'''<br> *76 = SLR McLaren ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M155 V8) '''C197/R197:'''<br> *7H = SLS AMG ['11-'12] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7J = SLS AMG GT ['13-'15] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7H = SLS AMG Black Series ['14] (6.2-liter M159 V8) '''C190:'''<br> following YJ in pos. 4-5: *7H = AMG GT 2-d coupe (base model) ['17-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT 2-d coupe (base model) ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *AJ = AMG GT 2-d coupe S ['16] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7J = AMG GT 2-d coupe S ['16-'19] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8A = AMG GT 2-d coupe C ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d coupe R ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d coupe R Pro ['20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8B = AMG GT 2-d coupe Black Series ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 LS2 GDI flat-plane crank V8) '''R190:'''<br> following YK in pos. 4-5: *7H = AMG GT roadster (base model) ['17-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT roadster (base model) ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8A = AMG GT roadster C ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d roadster R ['20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) '''C192:'''<br> following RJ in pos. 4-5: *4C = AMG GT43 coupe ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 2 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GT55 4Matic+ coupe ['24-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7J = AMG GT63 4Matic+ coupe ['24-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT63 S E Performance 4Matic+ coupe ['25-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8J = AMG GT63 Pro 4Matic+ coupe ['25-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''X156:'''<br> *4E = GLA250 ['15-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *4G = GLA250 4Matic ['15-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *5C = GLA45 AMG 4Matic ['15-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI AMG M133 I4) '''H247:'''<br> *4G = GLA250 ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = GLA250 ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLA250 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = GLA250 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG GLA35 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG GLA35 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5D = AMG GLA45 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) '''X247:'''<br> *4G = GLB250 ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = GLB250 ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLB250 4Matic ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = GLB250 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG GLB35 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG GLB35 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X243:'''<br> *0C = EQB250+ ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 front motor, Fwd, 188 hp) *0K = EQB300 4Matic ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 225 hp) *1D = EQB350 4Matic ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) '''X204:'''<br> *0E = GLK250 Bluetec 4Matic ['13-'15] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5G = GLK350 2wd ['10-'12] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = GLK350 2wd ['13-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *8H = GLK350 4Matic ['10-'12] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = GLK350 4Matic ['13-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) '''X253:'''<br> following 0G in pos. 4-5: *4J = GLC300 2wd ['16-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = GLC300 4Matic ['16-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = GLC300 2wd ['20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = GLC300 4Matic ['20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *5E = GLC350e 4Matic ['18-'19] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + 114 hp electric motor, 8.7 kWh lithium-ion battery) *5D = GLC350e 4Matic ['20] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + 121 hp electric motor, 13.5 kWh lithium-ion battery) *6E = AMG GLC43 4Matic ['17-'22] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8J = AMG GLC63 4Matic ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''C253:'''<br> following 0J in pos. 4-5: *4K = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8E = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG GLC43 4Matic Coupe ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8J = AMG GLC63 4Matic Coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8K = AMG GLC63 S 4Matic Coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''X254:'''<br> following KM in pos. 4-5: *4G = GLC300 2wd ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLC300 4Matic ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5G = GLC350e 4Matic ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG GLC43 4Matic ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GLC63 S E Performance 4Matic ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''C254:'''<br> following KJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG GLC43 4Matic Coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GLC63 S E Performance 4Matic Coupe ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''W163:'''<br> *54 = ML320 ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *57 = ML350 ['03-'05] (3.7-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *72 = ML430 ['99-'01] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = ML55 AMG ['00-'03] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *75 = ML500 ['02-'05] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''W164:'''<br> *22 = ML320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = ML320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = ML350 Bluetec ['10-'11] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *56 = ML350 2wd ['09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5G = ML350 2wd ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *86 = ML350 4Matic ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8G = ML350 4Matic ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = ML500 ['06-'07] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = ML550 ['08-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7C = ML550 ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *77 = ML63 AMG ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = ML63 AMG ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *9F = ML450 Hybrid 4Matic ['10-'11] (2-Mode Hybrid: 3.5-liter Atkinson-cycle M272 90° V6 + 2 electric motors, Nickel–metal hydride battery) '''W166:'''<br> following DA in pos. 4-5: *2E = ML350 Bluetec ['12-'14 & '15 in Canada], GLE350d [Canada only: '16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *0E = ML250 Bluetec ['15], GLE300d ['16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5J = ML350 2wd ['13-'15], GLE350 2wd ['16-'18] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *5H = ML350 4Matic ['12-'15], GLE350 4Matic ['16-'18] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *5G = ML400 4Matic ['15], GLE400 4Matic ['16-'17 & '19, Canada only: '18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6D = GLE550e 4Matic ['16-'18] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6E = GLE450 AMG Sport 4Matic [Canada only: '16], AMG GLE43 4Matic ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = ML550 ['12-'14 & '15 in Canada], GLE550 [Canada only: '16-'19] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = ML63 AMG ['12-'15], AMG GLE63 ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = AMG GLE63 S ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''C292:'''<br> following ED in pos. 4-5: *2E = GLE350d Coupe [Canada only: '16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *6E = GLE450 AMG Sport 4Matic Coupe ['16], AMG GLE43 4Matic Coupe ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7F = AMG GLE63 S Coupe ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''W167:'''<br> following FB in pos. 4-5: *4J = GLE350 2wd ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *4K = GLE350 4Matic ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *4E = GLE350 2wd ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4F = GLE350 4Matic ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4G = GLE450e 4Matic ['24-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = GLE450 ['20-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GLE53 ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8G = GLE580 ['20-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8F = GLE580 ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLE63 S ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C167:'''<br> following FD in pos. 4-5: *5K = GLE450 Coupe [Canada only: '22-'24, US & Canada: '25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GLE53 Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLE63 S Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X294:'''<br> *2B = EQE350+ SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 288 hp) *1C = EQE350 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) *2C = EQE500 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 402 hp) *5D = AMG EQE 4Matic+ SUV ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 617 hp) '''V251:'''<br> *22 = R320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = R320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = R350 Bluetec ['10-'12 & '13 in Canada] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *56 = R350 2wd ['08] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *65 = R350 4Matic ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *6F = R350 4Matic ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = R350 4Matic ['12 & '13 in Canada] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *75 = R500 ['06-'07] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = R63 AMG ['07] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''X164:'''<br> *22 = GL320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = GL320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = GL350 Bluetec ['10-'12] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *71 = GL450 ['07-'09] (4.7-liter M273 V8) *7B = GL450 ['10-'12] (4.7-liter M273 V8) *86 = GL550 ['08-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *8G = GL550 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter M273 V8) '''X166:'''<br> *2E = GL350 Bluetec ['13-'16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *7C = GL450 ['13-'14] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8 - detuned version) *6E = GL450 ['15-'16], GLS450 ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = GL550 ['13-'16], GLS550 ['17-'19] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = GL63 AMG ['13-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = AMG GLS63 ['17-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''X167:'''<br> *5K = GLS450 ['20-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8G = GLS580 ['20-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8F = GLS580 ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = Mercedes-Maybach GLS600 ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLS63 4MATIC+ ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X296:'''<br> *2D = EQS450+ SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 355 hp) *2E = EQS450 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 355 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 536 hp) '''Z296:'''<br> *5F = Mercedes-Maybach EQS680 4Matic SUV ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 649 hp) '''W463 (1st gen.):'''<br> *49 = G500 ['02-'08] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *37 = G550 ['09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *3H = G550 ['10-'15] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *3K = G550 ['16-'18] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *5F = G550 4x4² ['17-'18] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *46 = G55 AMG ['03-'04] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *71 = G55 AMG ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *7B = G55 AMG ['10-'11] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *7D = G63 AMG ['13-'18] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = G65 AMG ['16-'18] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''W463 (2nd gen.):'''<br> *6B = G550 ['19-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7H = AMG G63 ['19-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8A = AMG G63 4x4² ['22-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W465:'''<br> following WH in pos. 4-5: *1A = G550 ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5A = AMG G63 ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''N465:'''<br> following WM in pos. 4-5: *0A = G580 with EQ Technology ['25-] (battery-electric, 4 motors, 4wd, 579 hp) ===Position 8=== Passenger cars - Restraint system: * A 3-point seat belts for outboard passengers, center rear lap belt * B seat belt + emergency pretensioners for front passenger seat & driver-side front airbag * C seat belt + emergency pretensioners for both front seats * D seat belt + emergency pretensioners for both front seats, driver-side front air bag and knee bolster * E seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear lap belt (SL-Class does not have rear seats) * F seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt (SL-Class & SLK-Class do not have rear seats) ['96-'98 210-series E-class sedan, '98-'99 210-series E-class wagon, '96- R129 SL-Class, '98- R170 SLK-Class] * G seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear lap belt (CL-Class & CLK-Class do not have center rear seat position) ['97-'99 140-series S-class, '98-'00 202-series C-Class, '98-'02 208-series CLK-Class coupe, '99-'03 208-series CLK-Class convertible] * H seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, front to rear side curtain airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt ['99 210-series E-Class sedan] * J seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, front to rear side curtain airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt ['00- 210-series E-Class, '00- 220-series S-Class, '00- 215-series CL-Class, '01- 203-series C-Class, '03- 209-series CLK-Class coupe] SUVs - GVWR ('98-'09): * E = Class E: 6001-7000 lbs. ('98-'09 M-Class, '02-'09 G-Class, '06-'09 R-Class, '07-'09 GL-Class) SUVs - Restraint system & GVWR ('10-): ===Position 9, Check Digit=== [[Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Check digit |Check digit]] ===Position 10, Model Year: === [[Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Model year|Model year]] ===Position 11, Production Plant:=== * A-D: Sindelfingen, Germany * E: Sindelfingen, Germany (through 2000) * E: Juiz de Fora, Minas Gerais, Brazil (from 2001) * E: Mishawaka, Indiana, US (AM General plant) ('16-'17 R-Class for China) * F-H: Bremen, Germany * J, K: Rastatt, Germany * L: Pekan, Pahang, Malaysia (HICOM Automotive Manufacturers plant) * M: Woking, England, UK (SLR McLaren) (McLaren Automotive plant) * N, P: Kecskemet, Hungary * R, S: East London, South Africa * T: Osnabrück, Germany (Karmann plant) * U: Sindelfingen, Germany * V: Uusikaupunki, Finland (Valmet Automotive plant) * W: Aguascalientes, Mexico (COMPAS plant) * X: Graz, Austria (Magna Steyr plant) * 1: Pune, Maharashtra, India For 4JG and 55S: * A, B, U: Vance, Alabama, US ===Positions 12–17, Serial Number=== ==Commercial Vehicles== Position 1-3 * WDB - Daimler-Benz AG, DaimlerChrysler AG, Daimler AG * VSA - Mercedes-Benz Espana SA (1st gen. Vito/V-Class - W638) * WDF - DaimlerChrysler AG, Daimler AG (Citan, Vito/V-Class & X-Class) * W1T - Daimler AG (Daimler Truck Holding AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz truck) * W1V - Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz van) Position 4–6, Model *414 - Vaneo *415 - Mark 1 Citan *420 - Mark 2 Citan *447 - Mark 3 Vito *470 - X-Class *638 - Mark 1 Vito *639 - Mark 2 Vito *670 - Vario *901 - Sprinter T1N *902 - Sprinter T1N *903 - Sprinter T1N *904 - Sprinter T1N *905 - Sprinter T1N *906 - Sprinter NCV3 *907 - Sprinter VS30 (RWD) *910 - Sprinter VS30 (FWD) *930 - Actros Rigids *933 - Actros MP2 concrete mixer *934 - Actros MP2 tractor *944 - Axor Tractor *950 - Axor Rigids / Actros Mk1 Rigids *952 - Axor *954 - Actros Mk1 Tractor *956 - Econic *963 - NEW ACTROS MP4 (Common-Rail engine) / Antos *964 - NEW ACTROS MP4 (Common-Rail engine) / Arocs *967 - Atego *970 - Atego *972 - Atego *976 - Atego Fire Position 7–9, Weight and Length code Position 10, Drive indicator *1 Left hand drive *2 Right hand drive Position 11, Plant code * E: Buenos Aires, Argentina * G: Barcelona, Spain (Nissan plant) (X-Class pickup) * N: Ludwigsfelde, Germany * P, R, S: Dusseldorf, Germany * T: Ladson, South Carolina, US * U: Maubeuge, France (Renault plant) (Citan, T-Class, EQT) * V: Worth, Germany * 3: Vitoria, Spain * 4: Vitoria, Spain (When Position 1-3 is W1V) * 4: Worth, Germany * 5: Dusseldorf, Germany * 9: Ludwigsfelde, Germany Position 12–17, Serial Number Position 18, Check Digit ==External links== Online [http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz Vito decoder] WDB1260251A336981 {{BookCat}} ktu3odgkcpj5a7q7asshzc1zdxgczng 4520867 4520863 2025-07-01T20:58:48Z JustTheFacts33 3434282 /* Positions 6–7, Model within the series: */ 4520867 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Warning}}{{clear}} Mercedes-Benz uses the following VIN formats: (Note) This chart is not applicable to Mercedes-Benz products made for markets other than North America. European/World market cars use a different system for encoding VIN numbers. ==1960-1980== Position 1-3 - chassis code (e.g. 107, 116, 123, etc.) Position 4-6 - model type (e.g. 024, 032, 033, 036, 044, 045, etc.) Position 7 - 1=LH Drive (made in Germany), 2=RH Drive (made in Germany), 5=LH Drive CKD, 6=RH Drive CKD (Complete Knocked Down, assembled outside Germany)1 Position 8 - 0=Manual transmission, 1=Hydraulic clutch, 2= Automatic transmission 2 (Alphabetics indicate Plant of Manufacture i.e.: A = Sindelfingen) Position 9-14 - Construction serial number 10704312006193 ==Passenger Vehicles 1981-== ===Positions 1–3, World Manufacturer Identifier:=== * WDB Daimler-Benz AG (DaimlerChrysler after 1998) (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz or Maybach passenger car) * WDC DaimlerChrysler AG (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * WDD DaimlerChrysler AG (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) * W1K Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) * W1N Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * 4JG Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * 55S Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) ===Position 4, Model or Series:=== * A W123 300-Class * B R107 SL-Class * B C107 SLC-Class * C W126/C126 S-Class * D W201 190-Class * E W124 300-Class/E-Class * F R129 SL-Class * G W140/C140 S-Class, C140 CL-Class * H W202 C-Class * J W210 E-Class * K R170 SLK-Class * L C208/A208 CLK-Class * N W220 S-Class * P C215 CL-Class * R W203 C-Class * S R230 SL-Class * T C209/A209 CLK-Class * U W211 E-Class * W R171 SLK-Class *---------------------------------- * A C199/R199/Z199 SLR McLaren * D C219 CLS-Class * E C216 CL-Class * F W245 B-Class (Canada only) * G W204 C-Class * H W212/S212 E-Class sedan/wagon * J R231 SL-Class * K C207/A207 E-Class coupe/convertible * L C218 CLS-Class * M W246 B-Class (Canada only) * N W221 S-Class * P R172 SLK-Class/SLC-Class * R C197/R197 SLS AMG * S C117 CLA-Class * U W222 S-Class sedan * V W240 Maybach 57/62 * V N242 B-Class Electric * W W205 C-Class * X C217/A217 S-Class coupe/convertible * Y C190/R190 AMG GT coupe/roadster * Z W213/S213/X213 E-Class sedan/wagon/All-Terrain wagon * 1 C238/A238 E-Class coupe/convertible * 2 C257 CLS-Class * 3 V177 A-Class sedan * 3 W177 A-Class hatchback (Canada only) * 5 C118 CLA-Class * 6 W223 S-Class sedan * 7 X290 AMG GT 4-door coupe * A W206 C-Class * C V297 EQS-Class sedan * E V295 EQE-Class sedan * L W214/X214 E-Class sedan/All-Terrain wagon * M C236/A236 CLE-Class coupe/convertible * R C192 AMG GT coupe * V R232 SL-Class *---------------------------------- * A W163 M-Class * B W164 M-Class * B X164 GL-Class * C W251 R-Class * D W166 M-Class/GLE-Class * D X166 GL-Class/GLS-Class * D X296 EQS-Class SUV * E C292 GLE-Class Coupe * F W167/C167 GLE-Class * F X167 GLS-Class * G X204 GLK-Class * 0 X253/C253 GLC-Class * G X294 EQE-Class SUV * K X254/C254 GLC-Class * T X156 GLA-Class * Y W463 G-Class * W W465 G-Class * 4 H247 GLA-Class * 4 X247 GLB-Class * 9 X243 EQB-Class ===Position 5, Body Style:=== Passenger Cars: * B = Long Body * F = Sedan ('96+ E-Class, '01+ C-Class, '06 S-Class [S350], Maybach 57) * F = 5-door hatchback (Canada only: '19-'22 A-Class) * G = Sedan Long Wheelbase ('00+ S-Class, Maybach 62) * G = Sedan ('19-'22 A-Class sedan) * H = Wagon ('98-'09, '11- E-Class wagon, '02-'05 C-Class wagon, Canada only: '19-'21 C-Class wagon) * H = "Sedan" [5-door hatchback/compact minivan] ('06-'11, '13-'19 B-Class [gas engine] - Canada only) * J = 2-door Coupe ('98-'09 CLK-Class Coupe, '12-'15, '17-'23 C-Class coupe, '10-'23 E-Class coupe, '24- CLE-Class coupe, '00-'14 CL-Class, '15-'21 S-Class coupe, '05-'07 SLR McLaren coupe, '11-'15 SLS AMG coupe, '16-'21, '24- AMG GT coupe) * J = 4-door Coupe ('06-'23 CLS-Class, '14- CLA-Class) * K = Cabriolet/Roadster ('99-'09 CLK-Class Cabriolet, '17-'23 C-Class Cabriolet, '11-'23 E-Class Cabriolet, '24- CLE-Class Cabriolet, '17-'21 S-Class Cabriolet, '98-'16 SLK-Class, '17-'20 SLC-Class, '03+ SL-Class, '08-'09 SLR McLaren roadster, '12-'15 SLS AMG roadster, '18-'21 AMG GT roadster) * N = "Coupe" [3-door hatchback] ('02-'05 C-Class Sport Coupe) * P = "Sedan" [5-door hatchback/compact minivan] (B-Class Electric) * X = 4-door Coupe [5-door hatchback] ('19- AMG GT 4-door Coupe) SUVs: * A = 4-door MPV ('12-'15 M-Class, '16-'19 GLE-Class wagon) * B = 4-door MPV ('98-'11 M-Class) * B = 4-door MPV ('20-' GLE-Class wagon) * B = 4-door MPV ('06-'13 R-Class) * C = 4-door MPV ('10-'24 G-Class) * D = 4-door MPV ('16-'19, '21- GLE-Class Coupe) * F = 4-door MPV ('07-'16 GL-Class, '17- GLS-Class) * G = 4-door MPV ('10-'15 GLK-Class, '16-'22 GLC-Class wagon) * G = 4-door MPV ('15-'20 GLA-Class) * H = 4-door MPV ('25- G550, G63 AMG) * J = 4-door MPV ('17- GLC-Class Coupe) * M = 4-door MPV ('20- GLB-Class, '22- EQB-Class) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- GLC-Class wagon) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- EQE-Class SUV) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- EQS-Class SUV) * M = 4-door MPV ('25- G580 EQ [EV]) * N = 4-door MPV ('21- GLA-Class) * R = 4-door MPV ('02-'09 G-Class) On older models, this indicated the engine type, through much of the 1990s and into the 2000's for some models: * A = Gasoline (190 Class '84-'93, C-Class '94-'00, 300 Class '81, '86-'93, E-Class '94-'95, S-Class '81-'99, CL-Class '98-'99, SL-Class '81-'02, SLC '81) * B = Diesel (190 Class '84-'89, 300 Class '81-'85, '87, '90-'93, E-Class '95, S-Class '81-'87, '90-'95) * D = 4Matic Gasoline ('90-'93 300E 4Matic, 300TE 4Matic) * M = AMG Gasoline ('95-'97 C36 AMG only) ===Positions 6–7, Model within the series:=== '''V177:'''<br> *4E = A220 sedan ['19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4F = A220 4Matic sedan ['19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG A35 4Matic sedan ['20-'21 & in Canada: '22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) '''W177:'''<br> *4G = A250 hatchback [Canada only: '19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = A250 4Matic hatchback [Canada only: '19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG A35 4Matic hatchback [Canada only: '20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) '''W245:'''<br> *33 = B200 [Canada only: '06-'09] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve M266.980 I4 *3D = B200 [Canada only: '10-'11] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve M266.980 I4 *34 = B200 Turbo [Canada only: '06-'09] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve turbo M266.980 I4 *3E = B200 Turbo [Canada only: '10-'11] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve turbo M266.980 I4 *8G = B-Class F-Cell (hydrogen fuel cell) '''W246:'''<br> *4E = B250 [Canada only: '13-'19] 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve turbo M270 I4 *4G = B250 4Matic [Canada only: '15-'19] 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve turbo M270 I4 '''N242:'''<br> *9A = B-Class Electric Drive ['14-'15], B250e ['16-'17] (Tesla front electric motor, Lithium-ion battery pack, fwd, 177 hp) '''C117:'''<br> *4E = CLA250 sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *4G = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *5C = CLA45 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI AMG M133 I4) '''C118:'''<br> *4G = CLA250 sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = CLA250 sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG CLA35 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG CLA35 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5D = AMG CLA45 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) *5E = AMG CLA45 S 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) '''W201:'''<br> following DA in pos. 4-5: *24 = 190E 2.3 ['84-'86] (2.3-liter SOHC, 8 valve M102 I4) *28 = 190E 2.3 ['87-'88, '91-'93] (2.3-liter SOHC, 8 valve M102 I4) *29 = 190E 2.6 ['87-'93] (2.6-liter M103 I6) *34 = 190E 2.3-16 ['86-'87] (2.3-liter DOHC, 16 valve M102 I4) following DB in pos. 4-5: *22 = 190D 2.2 ['84-'85] (2.2-liter OM601 diesel I4) *26 = 190D 2.5 ['86-'89] (2.5-liter OM602 diesel I5) *28 = 190D 2.5 Turbo ['87] (2.5-liter OM602 turbodiesel I5) '''W202:'''<br> following HA in pos. 4-5: *22 = C220 ['94-'96] (2.2-liter M111 I4) *23 = C230 ['97-'98] (2.3-liter M111 I4) *24 = C230 Kompressor ['99-'00] (2.3-liter supercharged M111 I4) *28 = C280 ['94-'97] (2.8-liter M104 I6) *29 = C280 ['98-'00] (2.8-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *33 = C43 AMG ['98-'00] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113.944 V8) following HM in pos. 4-5: *36 = C36 AMG ['95-'97] (3.6-liter M104 AMG I6) '''W203/S203/CL203:'''<br> following RF in pos. 4-5: *40 = C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan ['03-'05] (1.8-liter supercharged M271 I4) *52 = C230 Sport Sedan ['06-'07] (2.5-liter M272 90° V6) *54 = C280 sedan ['06-'07] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = C350 sedan ['06-'07] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *61 = C240 sedan ['01-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *64 = C320 sedan ['01-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *65 = C32 AMG sedan ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve supercharged M112 90° V6) *76 = C55 AMG ['05-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *81 = C240 4Matic sedan ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *84 = C320 4Matic sedan ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *87 = C350 4Matic sedan ['06-'07] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *92 = C280 4Matic sedan ['06-'07] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) following RH in pos. 4-5: *61 = C240 wagon ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *64 = C320 wagon ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *81 = C240 4Matic wagon ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *84 = C320 4Matic wagon ['03-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) following RN in pos. 4-5: *47 = C230 Kompressor Sport Coupe ['02] (2.3-liter supercharged M111 I4) *40 = C230 Kompressor Sport Coupe ['03-'05] (1.8-liter supercharged M271 I4) *64 = C320 Sport Coupe ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''W204/C204:'''<br> following GF in pos. 4-5: *4H = C250 sedan ['12-'14] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *54 = C300 sedan ['08-'09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *5E = C300 sedan ['10-'11] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = C350 sedan ['08-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5G = C350 sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = C350 sedan ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *77 = C63 AMG sedan ['08-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = C63 AMG sedan ['10-'14], C63 AMG Edition 507 ['14] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *81 = C300 4Matic sedan ['08-'09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *8B = C300 4Matic sedan ['10-'12] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *8A = C300 4Matic sedan ['13-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 - detuned version) following GJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = C250 coupe ['12-'15] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *5H = C350 coupe ['12-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *7H = C63 AMG coupe ['12-'15], C63 AMG Black Series coupe ['12-'13], C63 AMG Edition 507 ['14-'15] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *8J = C350 4Matic coupe ['12-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) '''W205/S205/C205/A205:'''<br> following WF in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 sedan ['15-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic sedan ['15-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4H = C350e sedan ['16-'18] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8D = C300 sedan ['19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic sedan ['19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6G = C400 4Matic sedan ['15] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6E = C450 AMG Sport 4Matic sedan ['16], AMG C43 4Matic sedan ['17-'21] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 sedan ['15-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S sedan ['15-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following WH in pos. 4-5: *4K = C300 4Matic wagon [Canada: '18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic wagon [Canada: '19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic wagon [Canada: '19-'21] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) following WJ in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 coupe ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic coupe ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = C300 coupe ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic coupe ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic coupe ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 coupe ['17-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S coupe ['17-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following WK in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 convertible ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic convertible ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = C300 convertible ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic convertible ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic convertible ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 convertible ['17-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S convertible ['17-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W206:'''<br> following AF in pos. 4-5: *4G = C300 sedan ['22-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = C300 4Matic sedan ['22-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG C43 4Matic+ sedan ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG C63 S E Performance 4Matic sedan ['24-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''W123/S123/C123:'''<br> following AA in pos. 4-5: *33 = 280E ['81] (2.7-liter DOHC, 12-valve M110.984 I6) *53 = 280CE ['81] (2.7-liter DOHC, 12-valve M110.984 I6) following AB in pos. 4-5: *23 = 240D ['81-'83] (2.4-liter OM616 diesel I4) *30 = 300D ['81] (3.0-liter OM617 diesel I5) *33 = 300D Turbodiesel ['82-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *50 = 300CD ['81] (3.0-liter OM617 diesel I5) *53 = 300CD Turbodiesel ['82-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *93 = 300TD Turbodiesel ['81-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) '''W124/S124/C124/A124:'''<br> following EA in pos. 4-5: *26 = 260E ['87-'89], 300E 2.6 ['90-'92] (2.6-liter M103 I6) *28 = 300E 2.8 ['93] (2.8-liter M104 I6) *30 = 300E ['86-'92] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *32 = 300E ['93], E320 sedan ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *34 = 400E ['92-'93], E420 sedan ['94-'95] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *36 = 500E ['92-'93], E500 sedan ['94] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *50 = 300CE ['88-'89] (3.0-liter SOHC, 12 valve M103 I6) *51 = 300CE ['90-'92] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *52 = 300CE coupe ['93], E320 coupe ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *66 = 300CE convertible ['93], E320 convertible ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *90 = 300TE ['88-'92] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *92 = 300TE ['93], E320 wagon ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) following EB in pos. 4-5: *28 = 300D 2.5 Turbo ['90-'93] (2.5-liter OM602 turbodiesel I5) *31 = E300 Diesel ['95] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 diesel I6) *33 = 300D Turbo ['87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *93 = 300TD Turbo ['87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) following ED in pos. 4-5: *30 = 300E 4Matic ['90-'93] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *90 = 300TE 4Matic ['90-'93] (3.0-liter M103 I6) '''W210/S210:'''<br> following JF in pos. 4-5: *20 = E300 Diesel ['96-'97] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 diesel I6) *25 = E300 Turbodiesel ['98-'99] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 turbodiesel I6) *55 = E320 ['96-'97] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *65 = E320 sedan ['98-'02] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *72 = E420 ['97] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *70 = E430 ['98-'02] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = E55 AMG ['99-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic sedan ['98-'02] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E430 4Matic ['00-'02] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) following JH in pos. 4-5: *65 = E320 wagon ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *82 = E320 4Matic wagon ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''W211/S211:'''<br> following UF in pos. 4-5: *26 = E320 CDI sedan ['05-'06] (3.2-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM648 turbodiesel I6) *22 = E320 Bluetec sedan ['07-'09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *65 = E320 sedan ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = E350 sedan ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *70 = E500 sedan ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = E550 sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = E55 AMG sedan ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = E63 AMG sedan ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic sedan ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E500 4Matic sedan ['04-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *87 = E350 4Matic sedan ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *90 = E550 4Matic sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) following UH in pos. 4-5: *65 = E320 wagon ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = E350 wagon ['06] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *76 = E55 AMG wagon ['05-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = E63 AMG wagon ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic wagon ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E500 4Matic wagon ['04-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *87 = E350 4Matic wagon ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) '''W212/S212:'''<br> following HF in pos. 4-5: *2E = E350 Bluetec sedan ['11-'13] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *0E = E250 Bluetec sedan ['14-'16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5G = E350 sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 sedan ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7H = E63 AMG sedan ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7E = E63 AMG sedan ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = E63 AMG S 4Matic sedan ['14-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8B = E300 4Matic sedan [Canada only: '12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 - detuned version) *8H = E350 4Matic sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = E350 4Matic sedan ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *9A = E550 4Matic sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *9B = E550 4Matic sedan ['12-'14, Canada only: '15-'16] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9C = E63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'15] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *9F = E400 Hybrid sedan ['13-'15] (Mild Hybrid: 3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *9H = E250 Bluetec 4Matic sedan ['14-'16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve turbodiesel I4) following HH in pos. 4-5: *8H = E350 4Matic wagon ['11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = E350 4Matic wagon ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic wagon [Canada only: '15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7E = E63 AMG wagon ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = E63 AMG S 4Matic wagon ['14-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''W213/S213:'''<br> following ZF in pos. 4-5: *4J = E300 sedan ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = E300 4Matic sedan ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = E350 sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = E350 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6G = E400 4Matic sedan ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic sedan ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5K = E450 4Matic sedan ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6E = AMG E43 4Matic sedan ['17-'18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic sedan ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG E63 S 4Matic sedan ['18-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following ZH in pos. 4-5: *6G = E400 4Matic wagon ['17-'18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic wagon ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6A = E450 4Matic All-Terrain wagon ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG E63 S 4Matic wagon ['18-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W214/S214:'''<br> following LF in pos. 4-5: *4G = E350 sedan ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = E350 4Matic sedan ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = E450 4Matic sedan ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6D = AMG E53 4Matic+ Hybrid sedan ['25-] (PHEV: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following LH in pos. 4-5: *6F = E450 4Matic All-Terrain wagon ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C219:'''<br> *75 = CLS500 sedan ['06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLS550 sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7C = CLS550 sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLS55 AMG sedan ['06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = CLS63 AMG sedan ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = CLS63 AMG sedan ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''C218:'''<br> *6F = CLS400 sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = CLS400 4Matic sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = CLS550 sedan ['12-'18] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = CLS63 AMG sedan ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = CLS63 AMG S 4Matic sedan ['14-'18] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *9B = CLS550 4Matic sedan ['12-'18] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9C = CLS63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''C257:'''<br> *5J = CLS450 sedan ['19-'21] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = CLS450 4Matic sedan ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG CLS53 4Matic sedan ['19-'21] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X290:'''<br> *5K = AMG GT43 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GT53 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8J = AMG GT63 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-'21, '23-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8K = AMG GT63 S 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT63 S E Performance 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''V295:'''<br> *2B = EQE350+ sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 288 hp) *1C = EQE350 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) *2C = EQE500 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 402 hp) *5D = AMG EQE 4Matic+ sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 617 hp) '''W126/V126//C126:'''<br> following CA in pos. 4-5: *24 = 300SE ['88-'91] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *25 = 300SEL ['88-'91] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *32 = 380SE ['84-'85] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *33 = 380SEL ['81-'83] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *35 = 420SEL ['86-'91] (4.2-liter M116 V8) *37 = 500SEL ['84-'85] (5.0-liter M117 V8) *39 = 560SEL ['86-'91] (5.5-liter M117 V8) *43 = 380SEC ['82-'83] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *44 = 500SEC ['84-'85] (5.0-liter M117 V8) *45 = 560SEC ['86-'91] (5.5-liter M117 V8) following CB in pos. 4-5: *20 = 300SD Turbodiesel ['81-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *25 = 300SDL Turbodiesel ['86-'87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *34 = 350SD Turbodiesel ['91] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *35 = 350SDL Turbodiesel ['90-'91] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) '''W140/V140/C140:'''<br> following GA in pos. 4-5: *32 = 300SE ['92-'93], S320 sedan SWB ['94-'99] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *33 = S320 sedan LWB ['95-'99] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *42 = 400SE ['92] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *43 = 400SEL ['93], S420 ['94-'99] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *51 = 500SEL ['92-'93], S500 sedan ['94-'99] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *57 = 600SEL ['92-'93], S600 sedan ['94-'99] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) *70 = 500SEC ['93], S500 coupe ['94-'97], CL500 ['98-'99] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *76 = 600SEC ['93], S600 coupe ['94-'97], CL600 ['98-'99] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) following GB in pos. 4-5: *34 = 300SD Turbodiesel ['92-'93], S350 Turbodiesel ['94-'95] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) '''V220:'''<br> following NG in pos. 4-5: *70 = S430 ['00-'06] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *73 = S55 AMG ['01-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = S55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *75 = S500 ['00-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *78 = S600 ['01-'02] (5.8-liter SOHC, 36-valve M137 V12) *76 = S600 ['03-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = S65 AMG ['06] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *83 = S430 4Matic ['03-'06] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *84 = S500 4Matic ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''W220:'''<br> following NF in pos. 4-5: *67 = S350 ['06] (3.7-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''C215:'''<br> *73 = CL55 AMG ['01-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CL55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *75 = CL500 ['00-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *78 = CL600 ['01-'02] (5.8-liter SOHC, 36-valve M137 V12) *76 = CL600 ['03-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = CL65 AMG ['05-'06] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) '''V221:'''<br> following NG in pos. 4-5: *71 = S550 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7B = S550 ['10-'11] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7D = S550 ['12-'13] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *76 = S600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *7G = S600 ['10-'13] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = S63 AMG ['08-09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7H = S63 AMG ['10] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7E = S63 AMG ['11-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *79 = S65 AMG ['07-09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = S65 AMG ['10-'13] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *8D = S350 Bluetec 4Matic ['12-'13] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *86 = S550 4Matic ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *8G = S550 4Matic ['10-'11] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *9E = S550 4Matic ['12-'13] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9F = S400 Hybrid ['10-'13] (Mild Hybrid: 3.5-liter M272 90° Atkinson-cycle V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C216:'''<br> *71 = CL550 ['07-'08] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *76 = CL600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *7G = CL600 ['10-'14] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = CL63 AMG ['08-'09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7H = CL63 AMG ['10] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7E = CL63 AMG ['11-'14] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *79 = CL65 AMG ['08-'09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = CL65 AMG ['10-'14] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *86 = CL550 4Matic ['09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *8G = CL550 4Matic ['10] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *9E = CL550 4Matic ['11-'14] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) '''V222:'''<br> following UG in pos. 4-5: *6D = S550 Plug-in Hybrid ['15], S550e ['16-'17] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7D = S560e ['19-'20] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6G = S450 sedan ['18-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6E = S450 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8C = S550 sedan ['14-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8D = S560 sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *8F = S550 4Matic sedan ['14-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = S560 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7G = S600 sedan ['15-'17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M277 V12) *7K = S65 AMG sedan ['15-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''X222:'''<br> following UX in pos. 4-5: *8F = Mercedes-Maybach S550 4Matic sedan ['17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = Mercedes-Maybach S560 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7G = Mercedes-Maybach S600 sedan ['16-'17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M277 V12) *8A = Mercedes-Maybach S650 sedan ['18-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''C217:'''<br> following XJ in pos. 4-5: *8F = S550 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = S560 4Matic coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = S65 AMG coupe ['15-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''A217:'''<br> following XK in pos. 4-5: *8C = S550 convertible ['17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8D = S560 convertible ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic convertible ['17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic convertible ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = S65 AMG convertible ['17-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) *7K = Mercedes-Maybach S650 convertible ['17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''V223:'''<br> following 6G in pos. 4-5: *6D = S500 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6K = S580e 4Matic sedan ['23-] (PHEV: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7G = S580 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8C = AMG S63 E Performance 4Matic+ ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''Z223:'''<br> following 6X in pos. 4-5: *7G = Mercedes-Maybach S580 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7K = Mercedes-Maybach S680 4Matic sedan ['22-] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''V297:'''<br> *2D = EQS450+ sedan ['22-'23] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 329 hp) *2D = EQS450+ sedan ['24-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 355 hp) *2E = EQS450 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 355 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic sedan ['22-'23] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 516 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic sedan ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 536 hp) *5F = AMG EQS 4Matic+ sedan ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 649 hp) '''W240:'''<br> following VF in pos. 4-5: *78 = Maybach 57 ['04-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *7J = Maybach 57 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *79 = Maybach 57S ['06-'09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7K = Maybach 57S ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 57S Zeppelin ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 57S ['11-'12] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) '''V240:'''<br> following VG in pos. 4-5: *78 = Maybach 62 ['04-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *7J = Maybach 62 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *79 = Maybach 62S ['07-'09], 62S Landaulet ('09) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7K = Maybach 62S ['10], 62S Landaulet ('10) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 62S Zeppelin ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 62S ['11-'12], 62S Landaulet ('11-'12) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) '''C208/A208:'''<br> following LJ in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['98-'02 coupe] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *70 = CLK430 ['99-'02 coupe] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CLK55 AMG ['01-'02 coupe] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) following LK in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['99-'03 convertible] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *70 = CLK430 ['00-'03 convertible] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CLK55 AMG ['02 convertible] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''C209/A209:'''<br> following TJ in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['03-'05 coupe] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = CLK350 ['06-'09 coupe] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = CLK500 ['03-'06 coupe] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLK550 ['07-'09 coupe] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLK55 AMG ['03-'05 coupe] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = CLK63 AMG Black Series ['08 coupe] (6.2-liter M156 V8) following TK in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['04-'05 convertible] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = CLK350 ['06-'09 convertible] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = CLK500 ['04-'06 convertible] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLK550 ['07-'09 convertible] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLK55 AMG ['04-'06 convertible] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = CLK63 AMG ['07-'08 convertible] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''C207/A207:'''<br> following KJ in pos. 4-5: *5G = E350 coupe ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 coupe ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 coupe ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 coupe ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7D = E550 coupe ['12-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8J = E350 4Matic coupe ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) following KK in pos. 4-5: *5G = E350 convertible ['11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 convertible ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 convertible ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 convertible ['11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7D = E550 convertible ['12-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) '''C238/A238:'''<br> following 1J in pos. 4-5: *6F = E400 coupe ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = E400 4Matic coupe ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E450 coupe ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic coupe ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5J = E450 coupe ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = E450 4Matic coupe ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic coupe ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following 1K in pos. 4-5: *6F = E400 convertible ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = E400 4Matic convertible ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E450 convertible ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic convertible ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5J = E450 convertible ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = E450 4Matic convertible ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic convertible ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C236/A236:'''<br> following MJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = CLE300 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = CLE450 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6C = AMG CLE53 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following MK in pos. 4-5: *4H = CLE300 4Matic convertible ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = CLE450 4Matic convertible ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6C = AMG CLE53 4Matic convertible ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''R170:'''<br> *47 = SLK230 Kompressor ['98-'00] (2.3-liter M111.973 supercharged I4) *49 = SLK230 Kompressor ['01-'04] (2.3-liter M111.983 supercharged I4) *65 = SLK320 ['01-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *66 = SLK32 AMG ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 supercharged 90° V6) '''R171:'''<br> *54 = SLK280 ['06-'08], SLK300 ['09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *5E = SLK300 ['10-'11] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = SLK350 ['05-'08] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *58 = SLK350 ['09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5J = SLK350 ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *73 = SLK55 AMG ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *7D = SLK55 AMG ['10] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''R172:'''<br> *4H = SLK250 ['12-'15] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *3J = SLK300 ['16], SLC300 ['17-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *5H = SLK350 ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = SLC43 AMG ['17-'20] (3.0-liter twin-turbocharged M276 60° GDI V6) *7F = SLK55 AMG ['12-'16] (5.5-liter M152 GDI V8) '''R107:'''<br> following BA in pos. 4-5: *45 = 380SL ['81-'85] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *48 = 560SL ['86-'89] (5.5-liter M117 V8) '''C107:'''<br> following BA in pos. 4-5: *25 = 380SLC ['81] (3.8-liter M116 V8) '''R129:'''<br> following FA in pos. 4-5: *61 = 300SL ['90-'93] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *63 = SL320 ['94-'97] (3.2-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *66 = 500SL ['90-'92] (5.0-liter DOHC, 32-valve M119 V8) *67 = 500SL ['93], SL500 ['94-'98] (5.0-liter DOHC, 32-valve M119 V8) *68 = SL500 ['99-'02] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *76 = 600SL ['93], SL600 ['94-'02] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) '''R230:'''<br> following SK in pos. 4-5: *75 = SL500 ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *71 = SL550 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7B = SL550 ['11-'12] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *74 = SL55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *72 = SL55 AMG ['07-'08] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *70 = SL63 AMG ['09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7A = SL63 AMG ['11-'12] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *76 = SL600 ['04-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = SL600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = SL65 AMG ['05-'09], SL65 AMG Black Series ['09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = SL65 AMG ['11] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) '''R231:'''<br> following JK in pos. 4-5: *6F = SL400 ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = SL450 ['17-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = SL550 ['13-'20] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = SL63 AMG ['13-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7K = SL65 AMG ['13-'18] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''R232:'''<br> following VK in pos. 4-5: *5A = AMG SL43 ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 2 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG SL55 4Matic+ ['22-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8B = AMG SL63 4Matic+ ['22-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8C = AMG SL63 S E Performance 4Matic+ ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C199/R199:'''<br> *76 = SLR McLaren ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M155 V8) '''C197/R197:'''<br> *7H = SLS AMG ['11-'12] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7J = SLS AMG GT ['13-'15] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7H = SLS AMG Black Series ['14] (6.2-liter M159 V8) '''C190:'''<br> following YJ in pos. 4-5: *7H = AMG GT 2-d coupe (base model) ['17-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT 2-d coupe (base model) ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *AJ = AMG GT 2-d coupe S ['16] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7J = AMG GT 2-d coupe S ['16-'19] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8A = AMG GT 2-d coupe C ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d coupe R ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d coupe R Pro ['20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8B = AMG GT 2-d coupe Black Series ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 LS2 GDI flat-plane crank V8) '''R190:'''<br> following YK in pos. 4-5: *7H = AMG GT roadster (base model) ['17-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT roadster (base model) ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8A = AMG GT roadster C ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d roadster R ['20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) '''C192:'''<br> following RJ in pos. 4-5: *4C = AMG GT43 coupe ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 2 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GT55 4Matic+ coupe ['24-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7J = AMG GT63 4Matic+ coupe ['24-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT63 S E Performance 4Matic+ coupe ['25-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8J = AMG GT63 Pro 4Matic+ coupe ['25-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''X156:'''<br> *4E = GLA250 ['15-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *4G = GLA250 4Matic ['15-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *5C = GLA45 AMG 4Matic ['15-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI AMG M133 I4) '''H247:'''<br> *4G = GLA250 ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = GLA250 ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLA250 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = GLA250 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG GLA35 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG GLA35 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5D = AMG GLA45 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) '''X247:'''<br> *4G = GLB250 ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = GLB250 ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLB250 4Matic ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = GLB250 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG GLB35 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG GLB35 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X243:'''<br> *0C = EQB250+ ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 front motor, Fwd, 188 hp) *0K = EQB300 4Matic ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 225 hp) *1D = EQB350 4Matic ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) '''X204:'''<br> *0E = GLK250 Bluetec 4Matic ['13-'15] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5G = GLK350 2wd ['10-'12] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = GLK350 2wd ['13-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *8H = GLK350 4Matic ['10-'12] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = GLK350 4Matic ['13-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) '''X253:'''<br> following 0G in pos. 4-5: *4J = GLC300 2wd ['16-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = GLC300 4Matic ['16-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = GLC300 2wd ['20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = GLC300 4Matic ['20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *5E = GLC350e 4Matic ['18-'19] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + 114 hp electric motor, 8.7 kWh lithium-ion battery) *5D = GLC350e 4Matic ['20] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + 121 hp electric motor, 13.5 kWh lithium-ion battery) *6E = AMG GLC43 4Matic ['17-'22] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8J = AMG GLC63 4Matic ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''C253:'''<br> following 0J in pos. 4-5: *4K = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8E = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG GLC43 4Matic Coupe ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8J = AMG GLC63 4Matic Coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8K = AMG GLC63 S 4Matic Coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''X254:'''<br> following KM in pos. 4-5: *4G = GLC300 2wd ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLC300 4Matic ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5G = GLC350e 4Matic ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG GLC43 4Matic ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GLC63 S E Performance 4Matic ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''C254:'''<br> following KJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG GLC43 4Matic Coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GLC63 S E Performance 4Matic Coupe ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''W163:'''<br> *54 = ML320 ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *57 = ML350 ['03-'05] (3.7-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *72 = ML430 ['99-'01] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = ML55 AMG ['00-'03] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *75 = ML500 ['02-'05] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''W164:'''<br> *22 = ML320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = ML320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = ML350 Bluetec ['10-'11] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *56 = ML350 2wd ['09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5G = ML350 2wd ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *86 = ML350 4Matic ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8G = ML350 4Matic ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = ML500 ['06-'07] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = ML550 ['08-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7C = ML550 ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *77 = ML63 AMG ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = ML63 AMG ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *9F = ML450 Hybrid 4Matic ['10-'11] (2-Mode Hybrid: 3.5-liter Atkinson-cycle M272 90° V6 + 2 electric motors, Nickel–metal hydride battery) '''W166:'''<br> following DA in pos. 4-5: *2E = ML350 Bluetec ['12-'14 & '15 in Canada], GLE350d [Canada only: '16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *0E = ML250 Bluetec ['15], GLE300d ['16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5J = ML350 2wd ['13-'15], GLE350 2wd ['16-'18] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *5H = ML350 4Matic ['12-'15], GLE350 4Matic ['16-'18] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *5G = ML400 4Matic ['15], GLE400 4Matic ['16-'17 & '19, Canada only: '18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6D = GLE550e 4Matic ['16-'18] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6E = GLE450 AMG Sport 4Matic [Canada only: '16], AMG GLE43 4Matic ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = ML550 ['12-'14 & '15 in Canada], GLE550 [Canada only: '16-'19] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = ML63 AMG ['12-'15], AMG GLE63 ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = AMG GLE63 S ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''C292:'''<br> following ED in pos. 4-5: *2E = GLE350d Coupe [Canada only: '16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *6E = GLE450 AMG Sport 4Matic Coupe ['16], AMG GLE43 4Matic Coupe ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7F = AMG GLE63 S Coupe ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''W167:'''<br> following FB in pos. 4-5: *4J = GLE350 2wd ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *4K = GLE350 4Matic ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *4E = GLE350 2wd ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4F = GLE350 4Matic ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4G = GLE450e 4Matic ['24-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = GLE450 ['20-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GLE53 ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8G = GLE580 ['20-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8F = GLE580 ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLE63 S ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C167:'''<br> following FD in pos. 4-5: *5K = GLE450 Coupe [Canada only: '22-'24, US & Canada: '25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GLE53 Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLE63 S Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X294:'''<br> *2B = EQE350+ SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 288 hp) *1C = EQE350 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) *2C = EQE500 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 402 hp) *5D = AMG EQE 4Matic+ SUV ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 617 hp) '''V251:'''<br> *22 = R320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = R320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = R350 Bluetec ['10-'12 & '13 in Canada] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *56 = R350 2wd ['08] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *65 = R350 4Matic ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *6F = R350 4Matic ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = R350 4Matic ['12 & '13 in Canada] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *75 = R500 ['06-'07] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = R63 AMG ['07] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''X164:'''<br> *22 = GL320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = GL320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = GL350 Bluetec ['10-'12] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *71 = GL450 ['07-'09] (4.7-liter M273 V8) *7B = GL450 ['10-'12] (4.7-liter M273 V8) *86 = GL550 ['08-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *8G = GL550 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter M273 V8) '''X166:'''<br> *2E = GL350 Bluetec ['13-'16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *7C = GL450 ['13-'14] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8 - detuned version) *6E = GL450 ['15-'16], GLS450 ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = GL550 ['13-'16], GLS550 ['17-'19] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = GL63 AMG ['13-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = AMG GLS63 ['17-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''X167:'''<br> *5K = GLS450 ['20-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8G = GLS580 ['20-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8F = GLS580 ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = Mercedes-Maybach GLS600 ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLS63 4MATIC+ ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X296:'''<br> *2D = EQS450+ SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 355 hp) *2E = EQS450 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 355 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 536 hp) '''Z296:'''<br> *5F = Mercedes-Maybach EQS680 4Matic SUV ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 649 hp) '''W463 (1st gen.):'''<br> *49 = G500 ['02-'08] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *37 = G550 ['09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *3H = G550 ['10-'15] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *3K = G550 ['16-'18] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *5F = G550 4x4² ['17-'18] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *46 = G55 AMG ['03-'04] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *71 = G55 AMG ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *7B = G55 AMG ['10-'11] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *7D = G63 AMG ['13-'18] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = G65 AMG ['16-'18] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''W463 (2nd gen.):'''<br> *6B = G550 ['19-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7H = AMG G63 ['19-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8A = AMG G63 4x4² ['22-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W465:'''<br> following WH in pos. 4-5: *1A = G550 ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5A = AMG G63 ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''N465:'''<br> following WM in pos. 4-5: *0A = G580 with EQ Technology ['25-] (battery-electric, 4 motors, 4wd, 579 hp) ===Position 8=== Passenger cars - Restraint system: * A 3-point seat belts for outboard passengers, center rear lap belt * B seat belt + emergency pretensioners for front passenger seat & driver-side front airbag * C seat belt + emergency pretensioners for both front seats * D seat belt + emergency pretensioners for both front seats, driver-side front air bag and knee bolster * E seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear lap belt (SL-Class does not have rear seats) * F seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt (SL-Class & SLK-Class do not have rear seats) ['96-'98 210-series E-class sedan, '98-'99 210-series E-class wagon, '96- R129 SL-Class, '98- R170 SLK-Class] * G seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear lap belt (CL-Class & CLK-Class do not have center rear seat position) ['97-'99 140-series S-class, '98-'00 202-series C-Class, '98-'02 208-series CLK-Class coupe, '99-'03 208-series CLK-Class convertible] * H seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, front to rear side curtain airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt ['99 210-series E-Class sedan] * J seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, front to rear side curtain airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt ['00- 210-series E-Class, '00- 220-series S-Class, '00- 215-series CL-Class, '01- 203-series C-Class, '03- 209-series CLK-Class coupe] SUVs - GVWR ('98-'09): * E = Class E: 6001-7000 lbs. ('98-'09 M-Class, '02-'09 G-Class, '06-'09 R-Class, '07-'09 GL-Class) SUVs - Restraint system & GVWR ('10-): ===Position 9, Check Digit=== [[Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Check digit |Check digit]] ===Position 10, Model Year: === [[Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Model year|Model year]] ===Position 11, Production Plant:=== * A-D: Sindelfingen, Germany * E: Sindelfingen, Germany (through 2000) * E: Juiz de Fora, Minas Gerais, Brazil (from 2001) * E: Mishawaka, Indiana, US (AM General plant) ('16-'17 R-Class for China) * F-H: Bremen, Germany * J, K: Rastatt, Germany * L: Pekan, Pahang, Malaysia (HICOM Automotive Manufacturers plant) * M: Woking, England, UK (SLR McLaren) (McLaren Automotive plant) * N, P: Kecskemet, Hungary * R, S: East London, South Africa * T: Osnabrück, Germany (Karmann plant) * U: Sindelfingen, Germany * V: Uusikaupunki, Finland (Valmet Automotive plant) * W: Aguascalientes, Mexico (COMPAS plant) * X: Graz, Austria (Magna Steyr plant) * 1: Pune, Maharashtra, India For 4JG and 55S: * A, B, U: Vance, Alabama, US ===Positions 12–17, Serial Number=== ==Commercial Vehicles== Position 1-3 * WDB - Daimler-Benz AG, DaimlerChrysler AG, Daimler AG * VSA - Mercedes-Benz Espana SA (1st gen. Vito/V-Class - W638) * WDF - DaimlerChrysler AG, Daimler AG (Citan, Vito/V-Class & X-Class) * W1T - Daimler AG (Daimler Truck Holding AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz truck) * W1V - Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz van) Position 4–6, Model *414 - Vaneo *415 - Mark 1 Citan *420 - Mark 2 Citan *447 - Mark 3 Vito *470 - X-Class *638 - Mark 1 Vito *639 - Mark 2 Vito *670 - Vario *901 - Sprinter T1N *902 - Sprinter T1N *903 - Sprinter T1N *904 - Sprinter T1N *905 - Sprinter T1N *906 - Sprinter NCV3 *907 - Sprinter VS30 (RWD) *910 - Sprinter VS30 (FWD) *930 - Actros Rigids *933 - Actros MP2 concrete mixer *934 - Actros MP2 tractor *944 - Axor Tractor *950 - Axor Rigids / Actros Mk1 Rigids *952 - Axor *954 - Actros Mk1 Tractor *956 - Econic *963 - NEW ACTROS MP4 (Common-Rail engine) / Antos *964 - NEW ACTROS MP4 (Common-Rail engine) / Arocs *967 - Atego *970 - Atego *972 - Atego *976 - Atego Fire Position 7–9, Weight and Length code Position 10, Drive indicator *1 Left hand drive *2 Right hand drive Position 11, Plant code * E: Buenos Aires, Argentina * G: Barcelona, Spain (Nissan plant) (X-Class pickup) * N: Ludwigsfelde, Germany * P, R, S: Dusseldorf, Germany * T: Ladson, South Carolina, US * U: Maubeuge, France (Renault plant) (Citan, T-Class, EQT) * V: Worth, Germany * 3: Vitoria, Spain * 4: Vitoria, Spain (When Position 1-3 is W1V) * 4: Worth, Germany * 5: Dusseldorf, Germany * 9: Ludwigsfelde, Germany Position 12–17, Serial Number Position 18, Check Digit ==External links== Online [http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz Vito decoder] WDB1260251A336981 {{BookCat}} 61vmf77n5tc5mx2vi6vfv290uc7kmre 4520868 4520867 2025-07-01T21:03:25Z JustTheFacts33 3434282 /* Positions 6–7, Model within the series: */ 4520868 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Warning}}{{clear}} Mercedes-Benz uses the following VIN formats: (Note) This chart is not applicable to Mercedes-Benz products made for markets other than North America. European/World market cars use a different system for encoding VIN numbers. ==1960-1980== Position 1-3 - chassis code (e.g. 107, 116, 123, etc.) Position 4-6 - model type (e.g. 024, 032, 033, 036, 044, 045, etc.) Position 7 - 1=LH Drive (made in Germany), 2=RH Drive (made in Germany), 5=LH Drive CKD, 6=RH Drive CKD (Complete Knocked Down, assembled outside Germany)1 Position 8 - 0=Manual transmission, 1=Hydraulic clutch, 2= Automatic transmission 2 (Alphabetics indicate Plant of Manufacture i.e.: A = Sindelfingen) Position 9-14 - Construction serial number 10704312006193 ==Passenger Vehicles 1981-== ===Positions 1–3, World Manufacturer Identifier:=== * WDB Daimler-Benz AG (DaimlerChrysler after 1998) (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz or Maybach passenger car) * WDC DaimlerChrysler AG (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * WDD DaimlerChrysler AG (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) * W1K Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) * W1N Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * 4JG Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * 55S Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) ===Position 4, Model or Series:=== * A W123 300-Class * B R107 SL-Class * B C107 SLC-Class * C W126/C126 S-Class * D W201 190-Class * E W124 300-Class/E-Class * F R129 SL-Class * G W140/C140 S-Class, C140 CL-Class * H W202 C-Class * J W210 E-Class * K R170 SLK-Class * L C208/A208 CLK-Class * N W220 S-Class * P C215 CL-Class * R W203 C-Class * S R230 SL-Class * T C209/A209 CLK-Class * U W211 E-Class * W R171 SLK-Class *---------------------------------- * A C199/R199/Z199 SLR McLaren * D C219 CLS-Class * E C216 CL-Class * F W245 B-Class (Canada only) * G W204 C-Class * H W212/S212 E-Class sedan/wagon * J R231 SL-Class * K C207/A207 E-Class coupe/convertible * L C218 CLS-Class * M W246 B-Class (Canada only) * N W221 S-Class * P R172 SLK-Class/SLC-Class * R C197/R197 SLS AMG * S C117 CLA-Class * U W222 S-Class sedan * V W240 Maybach 57/62 * V N242 B-Class Electric * W W205 C-Class * X C217/A217 S-Class coupe/convertible * Y C190/R190 AMG GT coupe/roadster * Z W213/S213/X213 E-Class sedan/wagon/All-Terrain wagon * 1 C238/A238 E-Class coupe/convertible * 2 C257 CLS-Class * 3 V177 A-Class sedan * 3 W177 A-Class hatchback (Canada only) * 5 C118 CLA-Class * 6 W223 S-Class sedan * 7 X290 AMG GT 4-door coupe * A W206 C-Class * C V297 EQS-Class sedan * E V295 EQE-Class sedan * L W214/X214 E-Class sedan/All-Terrain wagon * M C236/A236 CLE-Class coupe/convertible * R C192 AMG GT coupe * V R232 SL-Class *---------------------------------- * A W163 M-Class * B W164 M-Class * B X164 GL-Class * C W251 R-Class * D W166 M-Class/GLE-Class * D X166 GL-Class/GLS-Class * D X296 EQS-Class SUV * E C292 GLE-Class Coupe * F W167/C167 GLE-Class * F X167 GLS-Class * G X204 GLK-Class * 0 X253/C253 GLC-Class * G X294 EQE-Class SUV * K X254/C254 GLC-Class * T X156 GLA-Class * Y W463 G-Class * W W465 G-Class * 4 H247 GLA-Class * 4 X247 GLB-Class * 9 X243 EQB-Class ===Position 5, Body Style:=== Passenger Cars: * B = Long Body * F = Sedan ('96+ E-Class, '01+ C-Class, '06 S-Class [S350], Maybach 57) * F = 5-door hatchback (Canada only: '19-'22 A-Class) * G = Sedan Long Wheelbase ('00+ S-Class, Maybach 62) * G = Sedan ('19-'22 A-Class sedan) * H = Wagon ('98-'09, '11- E-Class wagon, '02-'05 C-Class wagon, Canada only: '19-'21 C-Class wagon) * H = "Sedan" [5-door hatchback/compact minivan] ('06-'11, '13-'19 B-Class [gas engine] - Canada only) * J = 2-door Coupe ('98-'09 CLK-Class Coupe, '12-'15, '17-'23 C-Class coupe, '10-'23 E-Class coupe, '24- CLE-Class coupe, '00-'14 CL-Class, '15-'21 S-Class coupe, '05-'07 SLR McLaren coupe, '11-'15 SLS AMG coupe, '16-'21, '24- AMG GT coupe) * J = 4-door Coupe ('06-'23 CLS-Class, '14- CLA-Class) * K = Cabriolet/Roadster ('99-'09 CLK-Class Cabriolet, '17-'23 C-Class Cabriolet, '11-'23 E-Class Cabriolet, '24- CLE-Class Cabriolet, '17-'21 S-Class Cabriolet, '98-'16 SLK-Class, '17-'20 SLC-Class, '03+ SL-Class, '08-'09 SLR McLaren roadster, '12-'15 SLS AMG roadster, '18-'21 AMG GT roadster) * N = "Coupe" [3-door hatchback] ('02-'05 C-Class Sport Coupe) * P = "Sedan" [5-door hatchback/compact minivan] (B-Class Electric) * X = 4-door Coupe [5-door hatchback] ('19- AMG GT 4-door Coupe) SUVs: * A = 4-door MPV ('12-'15 M-Class, '16-'19 GLE-Class wagon) * B = 4-door MPV ('98-'11 M-Class) * B = 4-door MPV ('20-' GLE-Class wagon) * B = 4-door MPV ('06-'13 R-Class) * C = 4-door MPV ('10-'24 G-Class) * D = 4-door MPV ('16-'19, '21- GLE-Class Coupe) * F = 4-door MPV ('07-'16 GL-Class, '17- GLS-Class) * G = 4-door MPV ('10-'15 GLK-Class, '16-'22 GLC-Class wagon) * G = 4-door MPV ('15-'20 GLA-Class) * H = 4-door MPV ('25- G550, G63 AMG) * J = 4-door MPV ('17- GLC-Class Coupe) * M = 4-door MPV ('20- GLB-Class, '22- EQB-Class) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- GLC-Class wagon) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- EQE-Class SUV) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- EQS-Class SUV) * M = 4-door MPV ('25- G580 EQ [EV]) * N = 4-door MPV ('21- GLA-Class) * R = 4-door MPV ('02-'09 G-Class) On older models, this indicated the engine type, through much of the 1990s and into the 2000's for some models: * A = Gasoline (190 Class '84-'93, C-Class '94-'00, 300 Class '81, '86-'93, E-Class '94-'95, S-Class '81-'99, CL-Class '98-'99, SL-Class '81-'02, SLC '81) * B = Diesel (190 Class '84-'89, 300 Class '81-'85, '87, '90-'93, E-Class '95, S-Class '81-'87, '90-'95) * D = 4Matic Gasoline ('90-'93 300E 4Matic, 300TE 4Matic) * M = AMG Gasoline ('95-'97 C36 AMG only) ===Positions 6–7, Model within the series:=== '''V177:'''<br> *4E = A220 sedan ['19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4F = A220 4Matic sedan ['19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG A35 4Matic sedan ['20-'21 & in Canada: '22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) '''W177:'''<br> *4G = A250 hatchback [Canada only: '19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = A250 4Matic hatchback [Canada only: '19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG A35 4Matic hatchback [Canada only: '20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) '''W245:'''<br> *33 = B200 [Canada only: '06-'09] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve M266.980 I4 *3D = B200 [Canada only: '10-'11] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve M266.980 I4 *34 = B200 Turbo [Canada only: '06-'09] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve turbo M266.980 I4 *3E = B200 Turbo [Canada only: '10-'11] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve turbo M266.980 I4 *8G = B-Class F-Cell (hydrogen fuel cell) '''W246:'''<br> *4E = B250 [Canada only: '13-'19] 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve turbo M270 I4 *4G = B250 4Matic [Canada only: '15-'19] 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve turbo M270 I4 '''N242:'''<br> *9A = B-Class Electric Drive ['14-'15], B250e ['16-'17] (Tesla front electric motor, Lithium-ion battery pack, fwd, 177 hp) '''C117:'''<br> *4E = CLA250 sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *4G = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *5C = CLA45 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI AMG M133 I4) '''C118:'''<br> *4G = CLA250 sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = CLA250 sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG CLA35 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG CLA35 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5D = AMG CLA45 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) *5E = AMG CLA45 S 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) '''W201:'''<br> following DA in pos. 4-5: *24 = 190E 2.3 ['84-'86] (2.3-liter SOHC, 8 valve M102 I4) *28 = 190E 2.3 ['87-'88, '91-'93] (2.3-liter SOHC, 8 valve M102 I4) *29 = 190E 2.6 ['87-'93] (2.6-liter M103 I6) *34 = 190E 2.3-16 ['86-'87] (2.3-liter DOHC, 16 valve M102 I4) following DB in pos. 4-5: *22 = 190D 2.2 ['84-'85] (2.2-liter OM601 diesel I4) *26 = 190D 2.5 ['86-'89] (2.5-liter OM602 diesel I5) *28 = 190D 2.5 Turbo ['87] (2.5-liter OM602 turbodiesel I5) '''W202:'''<br> following HA in pos. 4-5: *22 = C220 ['94-'96] (2.2-liter M111 I4) *23 = C230 ['97-'98] (2.3-liter M111 I4) *24 = C230 Kompressor ['99-'00] (2.3-liter supercharged M111 I4) *28 = C280 ['94-'97] (2.8-liter M104 I6) *29 = C280 ['98-'00] (2.8-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *33 = C43 AMG ['98-'00] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113.944 V8) following HM in pos. 4-5: *36 = C36 AMG ['95-'97] (3.6-liter M104 AMG I6) '''W203/S203/CL203:'''<br> following RF in pos. 4-5: *40 = C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan ['03-'05] (1.8-liter supercharged M271 I4) *52 = C230 Sport Sedan ['06-'07] (2.5-liter M272 90° V6) *54 = C280 sedan ['06-'07] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = C350 sedan ['06-'07] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *61 = C240 sedan ['01-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *64 = C320 sedan ['01-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *65 = C32 AMG sedan ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve supercharged M112 90° V6) *76 = C55 AMG ['05-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *81 = C240 4Matic sedan ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *84 = C320 4Matic sedan ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *87 = C350 4Matic sedan ['06-'07] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *92 = C280 4Matic sedan ['06-'07] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) following RH in pos. 4-5: *61 = C240 wagon ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *64 = C320 wagon ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *81 = C240 4Matic wagon ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *84 = C320 4Matic wagon ['03-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) following RN in pos. 4-5: *47 = C230 Kompressor Sport Coupe ['02] (2.3-liter supercharged M111 I4) *40 = C230 Kompressor Sport Coupe ['03-'05] (1.8-liter supercharged M271 I4) *64 = C320 Sport Coupe ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''W204/C204:'''<br> following GF in pos. 4-5: *4H = C250 sedan ['12-'14] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *54 = C300 sedan ['08-'09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *5E = C300 sedan ['10-'11] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = C350 sedan ['08-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5G = C350 sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = C350 sedan ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *77 = C63 AMG sedan ['08-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = C63 AMG sedan ['10-'14], C63 AMG Edition 507 ['14] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *81 = C300 4Matic sedan ['08-'09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *8B = C300 4Matic sedan ['10-'12] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *8A = C300 4Matic sedan ['13-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 - detuned version) following GJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = C250 coupe ['12-'15] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *5H = C350 coupe ['12-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *7H = C63 AMG coupe ['12-'15], C63 AMG Black Series coupe ['12-'13], C63 AMG Edition 507 ['14-'15] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *8J = C350 4Matic coupe ['12-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) '''W205/S205/C205/A205:'''<br> following WF in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 sedan ['15-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic sedan ['15-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4H = C350e sedan ['16-'18] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8D = C300 sedan ['19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic sedan ['19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6G = C400 4Matic sedan ['15] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6E = C450 AMG Sport 4Matic sedan ['16], AMG C43 4Matic sedan ['17-'21] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 sedan ['15-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S sedan ['15-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following WH in pos. 4-5: *4K = C300 4Matic wagon [Canada: '18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic wagon [Canada: '19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic wagon [Canada: '19-'21] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) following WJ in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 coupe ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic coupe ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = C300 coupe ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic coupe ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic coupe ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 coupe ['17-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S coupe ['17-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following WK in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 convertible ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic convertible ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = C300 convertible ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic convertible ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic convertible ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 convertible ['17-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S convertible ['17-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W206:'''<br> following AF in pos. 4-5: *4G = C300 sedan ['22-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = C300 4Matic sedan ['22-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG C43 4Matic+ sedan ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG C63 S E Performance 4Matic sedan ['24-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''W123/S123/C123:'''<br> following AA in pos. 4-5: *33 = 280E ['81] (2.7-liter DOHC, 12-valve M110.984 I6) *53 = 280CE ['81] (2.7-liter DOHC, 12-valve M110.984 I6) following AB in pos. 4-5: *23 = 240D ['81-'83] (2.4-liter OM616 diesel I4) *30 = 300D ['81] (3.0-liter OM617 diesel I5) *33 = 300D Turbodiesel ['82-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *50 = 300CD ['81] (3.0-liter OM617 diesel I5) *53 = 300CD Turbodiesel ['82-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *93 = 300TD Turbodiesel ['81-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) '''W124/S124/C124/A124:'''<br> following EA in pos. 4-5: *26 = 260E ['87-'89], 300E 2.6 ['90-'92] (2.6-liter M103 I6) *28 = 300E 2.8 ['93] (2.8-liter M104 I6) *30 = 300E ['86-'92] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *32 = 300E ['93], E320 sedan ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *34 = 400E ['92-'93], E420 sedan ['94-'95] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *36 = 500E ['92-'93], E500 sedan ['94] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *50 = 300CE ['88-'89] (3.0-liter SOHC, 12 valve M103 I6) *51 = 300CE ['90-'92] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *52 = 300CE coupe ['93], E320 coupe ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *66 = 300CE convertible ['93], E320 convertible ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *90 = 300TE ['88-'92] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *92 = 300TE ['93], E320 wagon ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) following EB in pos. 4-5: *28 = 300D 2.5 Turbo ['90-'93] (2.5-liter OM602 turbodiesel I5) *31 = E300 Diesel ['95] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 diesel I6) *33 = 300D Turbo ['87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *93 = 300TD Turbo ['87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) following ED in pos. 4-5: *30 = 300E 4Matic ['90-'93] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *90 = 300TE 4Matic ['90-'93] (3.0-liter M103 I6) '''W210/S210:'''<br> following JF in pos. 4-5: *20 = E300 Diesel ['96-'97] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 diesel I6) *25 = E300 Turbodiesel ['98-'99] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 turbodiesel I6) *55 = E320 ['96-'97] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *65 = E320 sedan ['98-'02] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *72 = E420 ['97] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *70 = E430 ['98-'02] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = E55 AMG ['99-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic sedan ['98-'02] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E430 4Matic ['00-'02] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) following JH in pos. 4-5: *65 = E320 wagon ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *82 = E320 4Matic wagon ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''W211/S211:'''<br> following UF in pos. 4-5: *26 = E320 CDI sedan ['05-'06] (3.2-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM648 turbodiesel I6) *22 = E320 Bluetec sedan ['07-'09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *65 = E320 sedan ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = E350 sedan ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *70 = E500 sedan ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = E550 sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = E55 AMG sedan ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = E63 AMG sedan ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic sedan ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E500 4Matic sedan ['04-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *87 = E350 4Matic sedan ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *90 = E550 4Matic sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) following UH in pos. 4-5: *65 = E320 wagon ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = E350 wagon ['06] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *76 = E55 AMG wagon ['05-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = E63 AMG wagon ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic wagon ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E500 4Matic wagon ['04-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *87 = E350 4Matic wagon ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) '''W212/S212:'''<br> following HF in pos. 4-5: *2E = E350 Bluetec sedan ['11-'13] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *0E = E250 Bluetec sedan ['14-'16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5G = E350 sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 sedan ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7H = E63 AMG sedan ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7E = E63 AMG sedan ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = E63 AMG S 4Matic sedan ['14-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8B = E300 4Matic sedan [Canada only: '12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 - detuned version) *8H = E350 4Matic sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = E350 4Matic sedan ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *9A = E550 4Matic sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *9B = E550 4Matic sedan ['12-'14, Canada only: '15-'16] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9C = E63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'15] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *9F = E400 Hybrid sedan ['13-'15] (Mild Hybrid: 3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *9H = E250 Bluetec 4Matic sedan ['14-'16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve turbodiesel I4) following HH in pos. 4-5: *8H = E350 4Matic wagon ['11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = E350 4Matic wagon ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic wagon [Canada only: '15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7E = E63 AMG wagon ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = E63 AMG S 4Matic wagon ['14-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''W213/S213:'''<br> following ZF in pos. 4-5: *4J = E300 sedan ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = E300 4Matic sedan ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = E350 sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = E350 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6G = E400 4Matic sedan ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic sedan ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5K = E450 4Matic sedan ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6E = AMG E43 4Matic sedan ['17-'18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic sedan ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG E63 S 4Matic sedan ['18-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following ZH in pos. 4-5: *6G = E400 4Matic wagon ['17-'18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic wagon ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6A = E450 4Matic All-Terrain wagon ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG E63 S 4Matic wagon ['18-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W214/S214:'''<br> following LF in pos. 4-5: *4G = E350 sedan ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = E350 4Matic sedan ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = E450 4Matic sedan ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6D = AMG E53 4Matic+ Hybrid sedan ['25-] (PHEV: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following LH in pos. 4-5: *6F = E450 4Matic All-Terrain wagon ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C219:'''<br> *75 = CLS500 sedan ['06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLS550 sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7C = CLS550 sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLS55 AMG sedan ['06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = CLS63 AMG sedan ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = CLS63 AMG sedan ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''C218:'''<br> *6F = CLS400 sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = CLS400 4Matic sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = CLS550 sedan ['12-'18] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = CLS63 AMG sedan ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = CLS63 AMG S 4Matic sedan ['14-'18] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *9B = CLS550 4Matic sedan ['12-'18] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9C = CLS63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''C257:'''<br> *5J = CLS450 sedan ['19-'21] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = CLS450 4Matic sedan ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG CLS53 4Matic sedan ['19-'21] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X290:'''<br> *5K = AMG GT43 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GT53 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8J = AMG GT63 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-'21, '23-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8K = AMG GT63 S 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT63 S E Performance 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''V295:'''<br> *2B = EQE350+ sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 288 hp) *1C = EQE350 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) *2C = EQE500 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 402 hp) *5D = AMG EQE 4Matic+ sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 617 hp) '''W126/V126//C126:'''<br> following CA in pos. 4-5: *24 = 300SE ['88-'91] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *25 = 300SEL ['88-'91] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *32 = 380SE ['84-'85] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *33 = 380SEL ['81-'83] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *35 = 420SEL ['86-'91] (4.2-liter M116 V8) *37 = 500SEL ['84-'85] (5.0-liter M117 V8) *39 = 560SEL ['86-'91] (5.5-liter M117 V8) *43 = 380SEC ['82-'83] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *44 = 500SEC ['84-'85] (5.0-liter M117 V8) *45 = 560SEC ['86-'91] (5.5-liter M117 V8) following CB in pos. 4-5: *20 = 300SD Turbodiesel ['81-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *25 = 300SDL Turbodiesel ['86-'87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *34 = 350SD Turbodiesel ['91] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *35 = 350SDL Turbodiesel ['90-'91] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) '''W140/V140/C140:'''<br> following GA in pos. 4-5: *32 = 300SE ['92-'93], S320 sedan SWB ['94-'99] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *33 = S320 sedan LWB ['95-'99] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *42 = 400SE ['92] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *43 = 400SEL ['93], S420 ['94-'99] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *51 = 500SEL ['92-'93], S500 sedan ['94-'99] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *57 = 600SEL ['92-'93], S600 sedan ['94-'99] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) *70 = 500SEC ['93], S500 coupe ['94-'97], CL500 ['98-'99] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *76 = 600SEC ['93], S600 coupe ['94-'97], CL600 ['98-'99] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) following GB in pos. 4-5: *34 = 300SD Turbodiesel ['92-'93], S350 Turbodiesel ['94-'95] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) '''V220:'''<br> following NG in pos. 4-5: *70 = S430 ['00-'06] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *73 = S55 AMG ['01-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = S55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *75 = S500 ['00-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *78 = S600 ['01-'02] (5.8-liter SOHC, 36-valve M137 V12) *76 = S600 ['03-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = S65 AMG ['06] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *83 = S430 4Matic ['03-'06] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *84 = S500 4Matic ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''W220:'''<br> following NF in pos. 4-5: *67 = S350 ['06] (3.7-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''C215:'''<br> *73 = CL55 AMG ['01-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CL55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *75 = CL500 ['00-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *78 = CL600 ['01-'02] (5.8-liter SOHC, 36-valve M137 V12) *76 = CL600 ['03-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = CL65 AMG ['05-'06] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) '''V221:'''<br> following NG in pos. 4-5: *71 = S550 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7B = S550 ['10-'11] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7D = S550 ['12-'13] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *76 = S600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *7G = S600 ['10-'13] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = S63 AMG ['08-09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7H = S63 AMG ['10] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7E = S63 AMG ['11-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *79 = S65 AMG ['07-09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = S65 AMG ['10-'13] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *8D = S350 Bluetec 4Matic ['12-'13] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *86 = S550 4Matic ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *8G = S550 4Matic ['10-'11] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *9E = S550 4Matic ['12-'13] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9F = S400 Hybrid ['10-'13] (Mild Hybrid: 3.5-liter M272 90° Atkinson-cycle V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C216:'''<br> *71 = CL550 ['07-'08] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *76 = CL600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *7G = CL600 ['10-'14] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = CL63 AMG ['08-'09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7H = CL63 AMG ['10] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7E = CL63 AMG ['11-'14] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *79 = CL65 AMG ['08-'09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = CL65 AMG ['10-'14] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *86 = CL550 4Matic ['09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *8G = CL550 4Matic ['10] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *9E = CL550 4Matic ['11-'14] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) '''V222:'''<br> following UG in pos. 4-5: *6D = S550 Plug-in Hybrid ['15], S550e ['16-'17] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7D = S560e ['19-'20] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6G = S450 sedan ['18-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6E = S450 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8C = S550 sedan ['14-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8D = S560 sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *8F = S550 4Matic sedan ['14-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = S560 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7G = S600 sedan ['15-'17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M277 V12) *7K = S65 AMG sedan ['15-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''X222:'''<br> following UX in pos. 4-5: *8F = Mercedes-Maybach S550 4Matic sedan ['17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = Mercedes-Maybach S560 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7G = Mercedes-Maybach S600 sedan ['16-'17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M277 V12) *8A = Mercedes-Maybach S650 sedan ['18-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''C217:'''<br> following XJ in pos. 4-5: *8F = S550 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = S560 4Matic coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = S65 AMG coupe ['15-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''A217:'''<br> following XK in pos. 4-5: *8C = S550 convertible ['17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8D = S560 convertible ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic convertible ['17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic convertible ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = S65 AMG convertible ['17-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) *7K = Mercedes-Maybach S650 convertible ['17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''V223:'''<br> following 6G in pos. 4-5: *6D = S500 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6K = S580e 4Matic sedan ['23-] (PHEV: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7G = S580 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8C = AMG S63 E Performance 4Matic+ ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''Z223:'''<br> following 6X in pos. 4-5: *7G = Mercedes-Maybach S580 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7K = Mercedes-Maybach S680 4Matic sedan ['22-] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''V297:'''<br> *2D = EQS450+ sedan ['22-'23] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 329 hp) *2D = EQS450+ sedan ['24-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 355 hp) *2E = EQS450 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 355 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic sedan ['22-'23] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 516 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic sedan ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 536 hp) *5F = AMG EQS 4Matic+ sedan ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 649 hp) '''W240:'''<br> following VF in pos. 4-5: *78 = Maybach 57 ['04-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *7J = Maybach 57 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *79 = Maybach 57S ['06-'09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7K = Maybach 57S ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 57S Zeppelin ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 57S ['11-'12] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) '''V240:'''<br> following VG in pos. 4-5: *78 = Maybach 62 ['04-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *7J = Maybach 62 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *79 = Maybach 62S ['07-'09], 62S Landaulet ('09) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7K = Maybach 62S ['10], 62S Landaulet ('10) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 62S Zeppelin ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 62S ['11-'12], 62S Landaulet ('11-'12) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) '''C208/A208:'''<br> following LJ in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['98-'02 coupe] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *70 = CLK430 ['99-'02 coupe] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CLK55 AMG ['01-'02 coupe] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) following LK in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['99-'03 convertible] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *70 = CLK430 ['00-'03 convertible] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CLK55 AMG ['02 convertible] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''C209/A209:'''<br> following TJ in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['03-'05 coupe] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = CLK350 ['06-'09 coupe] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = CLK500 ['03-'06 coupe] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLK550 ['07-'09 coupe] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLK55 AMG ['03-'05 coupe] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = CLK63 AMG Black Series ['08 coupe] (6.2-liter M156 V8) following TK in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['04-'05 convertible] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = CLK350 ['06-'09 convertible] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = CLK500 ['04-'06 convertible] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLK550 ['07-'09 convertible] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLK55 AMG ['04-'06 convertible] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = CLK63 AMG ['07-'08 convertible] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''C207/A207:'''<br> following KJ in pos. 4-5: *5G = E350 coupe ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 coupe ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 coupe ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 coupe ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7D = E550 coupe ['12-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8J = E350 4Matic coupe ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) following KK in pos. 4-5: *5G = E350 convertible ['11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 convertible ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 convertible ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 convertible ['11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7D = E550 convertible ['12-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) '''C238/A238:'''<br> following 1J in pos. 4-5: *6F = E400 coupe ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = E400 4Matic coupe ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E450 coupe ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic coupe ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5J = E450 coupe ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = E450 4Matic coupe ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic coupe ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following 1K in pos. 4-5: *6F = E400 convertible ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = E400 4Matic convertible ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E450 convertible ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic convertible ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5J = E450 convertible ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = E450 4Matic convertible ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic convertible ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C236/A236:'''<br> following MJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = CLE300 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = CLE450 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6C = AMG CLE53 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following MK in pos. 4-5: *4H = CLE300 4Matic convertible ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = CLE450 4Matic convertible ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6C = AMG CLE53 4Matic convertible ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''R170:'''<br> following KK in pos. 4-5: *47 = SLK230 Kompressor ['98-'00] (2.3-liter M111.973 supercharged I4) *49 = SLK230 Kompressor ['01-'04] (2.3-liter M111.983 supercharged I4) *65 = SLK320 ['01-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *66 = SLK32 AMG ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 supercharged 90° V6) '''R171:'''<br> following WK in pos. 4-5: *54 = SLK280 ['06-'08], SLK300 ['09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *5E = SLK300 ['10-'11] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = SLK350 ['05-'08] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *58 = SLK350 ['09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5J = SLK350 ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *73 = SLK55 AMG ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *7D = SLK55 AMG ['10] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''R172:'''<br> following PK in pos. 4-5: *4H = SLK250 ['12-'15] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *3J = SLK300 ['16], SLC300 ['17-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *5H = SLK350 ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = SLC43 AMG ['17-'20] (3.0-liter twin-turbocharged M276 60° GDI V6) *7F = SLK55 AMG ['12-'16] (5.5-liter M152 GDI V8) '''R107:'''<br> following BA in pos. 4-5: *45 = 380SL ['81-'85] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *48 = 560SL ['86-'89] (5.5-liter M117 V8) '''C107:'''<br> following BA in pos. 4-5: *25 = 380SLC ['81] (3.8-liter M116 V8) '''R129:'''<br> following FA in pos. 4-5: *61 = 300SL ['90-'93] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *63 = SL320 ['94-'97] (3.2-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *66 = 500SL ['90-'92] (5.0-liter DOHC, 32-valve M119 V8) *67 = 500SL ['93], SL500 ['94-'98] (5.0-liter DOHC, 32-valve M119 V8) *68 = SL500 ['99-'02] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *76 = 600SL ['93], SL600 ['94-'02] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) '''R230:'''<br> following SK in pos. 4-5: *75 = SL500 ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *71 = SL550 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7B = SL550 ['11-'12] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *74 = SL55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *72 = SL55 AMG ['07-'08] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *70 = SL63 AMG ['09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7A = SL63 AMG ['11-'12] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *76 = SL600 ['04-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = SL600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = SL65 AMG ['05-'09], SL65 AMG Black Series ['09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = SL65 AMG ['11] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) '''R231:'''<br> following JK in pos. 4-5: *6F = SL400 ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = SL450 ['17-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = SL550 ['13-'20] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = SL63 AMG ['13-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7K = SL65 AMG ['13-'18] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''R232:'''<br> following VK in pos. 4-5: *5A = AMG SL43 ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 2 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG SL55 4Matic+ ['22-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8B = AMG SL63 4Matic+ ['22-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8C = AMG SL63 S E Performance 4Matic+ ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C199/R199:'''<br> *76 = SLR McLaren ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M155 V8) '''C197/R197:'''<br> *7H = SLS AMG ['11-'12] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7J = SLS AMG GT ['13-'15] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7H = SLS AMG Black Series ['14] (6.2-liter M159 V8) '''C190:'''<br> following YJ in pos. 4-5: *7H = AMG GT 2-d coupe (base model) ['17-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT 2-d coupe (base model) ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *AJ = AMG GT 2-d coupe S ['16] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7J = AMG GT 2-d coupe S ['16-'19] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8A = AMG GT 2-d coupe C ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d coupe R ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d coupe R Pro ['20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8B = AMG GT 2-d coupe Black Series ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 LS2 GDI flat-plane crank V8) '''R190:'''<br> following YK in pos. 4-5: *7H = AMG GT roadster (base model) ['17-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT roadster (base model) ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8A = AMG GT roadster C ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d roadster R ['20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) '''C192:'''<br> following RJ in pos. 4-5: *4C = AMG GT43 coupe ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 2 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GT55 4Matic+ coupe ['24-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7J = AMG GT63 4Matic+ coupe ['24-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT63 S E Performance 4Matic+ coupe ['25-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8J = AMG GT63 Pro 4Matic+ coupe ['25-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''X156:'''<br> *4E = GLA250 ['15-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *4G = GLA250 4Matic ['15-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *5C = GLA45 AMG 4Matic ['15-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI AMG M133 I4) '''H247:'''<br> *4G = GLA250 ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = GLA250 ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLA250 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = GLA250 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG GLA35 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG GLA35 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5D = AMG GLA45 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) '''X247:'''<br> *4G = GLB250 ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = GLB250 ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLB250 4Matic ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = GLB250 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG GLB35 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG GLB35 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X243:'''<br> *0C = EQB250+ ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 front motor, Fwd, 188 hp) *0K = EQB300 4Matic ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 225 hp) *1D = EQB350 4Matic ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) '''X204:'''<br> *0E = GLK250 Bluetec 4Matic ['13-'15] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5G = GLK350 2wd ['10-'12] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = GLK350 2wd ['13-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *8H = GLK350 4Matic ['10-'12] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = GLK350 4Matic ['13-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) '''X253:'''<br> following 0G in pos. 4-5: *4J = GLC300 2wd ['16-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = GLC300 4Matic ['16-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = GLC300 2wd ['20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = GLC300 4Matic ['20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *5E = GLC350e 4Matic ['18-'19] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + 114 hp electric motor, 8.7 kWh lithium-ion battery) *5D = GLC350e 4Matic ['20] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + 121 hp electric motor, 13.5 kWh lithium-ion battery) *6E = AMG GLC43 4Matic ['17-'22] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8J = AMG GLC63 4Matic ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''C253:'''<br> following 0J in pos. 4-5: *4K = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8E = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG GLC43 4Matic Coupe ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8J = AMG GLC63 4Matic Coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8K = AMG GLC63 S 4Matic Coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''X254:'''<br> following KM in pos. 4-5: *4G = GLC300 2wd ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLC300 4Matic ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5G = GLC350e 4Matic ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG GLC43 4Matic ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GLC63 S E Performance 4Matic ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''C254:'''<br> following KJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG GLC43 4Matic Coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GLC63 S E Performance 4Matic Coupe ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''W163:'''<br> *54 = ML320 ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *57 = ML350 ['03-'05] (3.7-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *72 = ML430 ['99-'01] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = ML55 AMG ['00-'03] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *75 = ML500 ['02-'05] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''W164:'''<br> *22 = ML320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = ML320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = ML350 Bluetec ['10-'11] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *56 = ML350 2wd ['09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5G = ML350 2wd ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *86 = ML350 4Matic ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8G = ML350 4Matic ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = ML500 ['06-'07] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = ML550 ['08-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7C = ML550 ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *77 = ML63 AMG ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = ML63 AMG ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *9F = ML450 Hybrid 4Matic ['10-'11] (2-Mode Hybrid: 3.5-liter Atkinson-cycle M272 90° V6 + 2 electric motors, Nickel–metal hydride battery) '''W166:'''<br> following DA in pos. 4-5: *2E = ML350 Bluetec ['12-'14 & '15 in Canada], GLE350d [Canada only: '16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *0E = ML250 Bluetec ['15], GLE300d ['16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5J = ML350 2wd ['13-'15], GLE350 2wd ['16-'18] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *5H = ML350 4Matic ['12-'15], GLE350 4Matic ['16-'18] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *5G = ML400 4Matic ['15], GLE400 4Matic ['16-'17 & '19, Canada only: '18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6D = GLE550e 4Matic ['16-'18] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6E = GLE450 AMG Sport 4Matic [Canada only: '16], AMG GLE43 4Matic ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = ML550 ['12-'14 & '15 in Canada], GLE550 [Canada only: '16-'19] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = ML63 AMG ['12-'15], AMG GLE63 ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = AMG GLE63 S ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''C292:'''<br> following ED in pos. 4-5: *2E = GLE350d Coupe [Canada only: '16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *6E = GLE450 AMG Sport 4Matic Coupe ['16], AMG GLE43 4Matic Coupe ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7F = AMG GLE63 S Coupe ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''W167:'''<br> following FB in pos. 4-5: *4J = GLE350 2wd ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *4K = GLE350 4Matic ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *4E = GLE350 2wd ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4F = GLE350 4Matic ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4G = GLE450e 4Matic ['24-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = GLE450 ['20-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GLE53 ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8G = GLE580 ['20-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8F = GLE580 ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLE63 S ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C167:'''<br> following FD in pos. 4-5: *5K = GLE450 Coupe [Canada only: '22-'24, US & Canada: '25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GLE53 Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLE63 S Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X294:'''<br> *2B = EQE350+ SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 288 hp) *1C = EQE350 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) *2C = EQE500 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 402 hp) *5D = AMG EQE 4Matic+ SUV ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 617 hp) '''V251:'''<br> *22 = R320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = R320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = R350 Bluetec ['10-'12 & '13 in Canada] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *56 = R350 2wd ['08] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *65 = R350 4Matic ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *6F = R350 4Matic ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = R350 4Matic ['12 & '13 in Canada] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *75 = R500 ['06-'07] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = R63 AMG ['07] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''X164:'''<br> *22 = GL320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = GL320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = GL350 Bluetec ['10-'12] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *71 = GL450 ['07-'09] (4.7-liter M273 V8) *7B = GL450 ['10-'12] (4.7-liter M273 V8) *86 = GL550 ['08-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *8G = GL550 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter M273 V8) '''X166:'''<br> *2E = GL350 Bluetec ['13-'16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *7C = GL450 ['13-'14] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8 - detuned version) *6E = GL450 ['15-'16], GLS450 ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = GL550 ['13-'16], GLS550 ['17-'19] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = GL63 AMG ['13-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = AMG GLS63 ['17-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''X167:'''<br> *5K = GLS450 ['20-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8G = GLS580 ['20-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8F = GLS580 ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = Mercedes-Maybach GLS600 ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLS63 4MATIC+ ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X296:'''<br> *2D = EQS450+ SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 355 hp) *2E = EQS450 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 355 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 536 hp) '''Z296:'''<br> *5F = Mercedes-Maybach EQS680 4Matic SUV ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 649 hp) '''W463 (1st gen.):'''<br> *49 = G500 ['02-'08] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *37 = G550 ['09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *3H = G550 ['10-'15] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *3K = G550 ['16-'18] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *5F = G550 4x4² ['17-'18] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *46 = G55 AMG ['03-'04] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *71 = G55 AMG ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *7B = G55 AMG ['10-'11] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *7D = G63 AMG ['13-'18] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = G65 AMG ['16-'18] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''W463 (2nd gen.):'''<br> *6B = G550 ['19-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7H = AMG G63 ['19-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8A = AMG G63 4x4² ['22-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W465:'''<br> following WH in pos. 4-5: *1A = G550 ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5A = AMG G63 ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''N465:'''<br> following WM in pos. 4-5: *0A = G580 with EQ Technology ['25-] (battery-electric, 4 motors, 4wd, 579 hp) ===Position 8=== Passenger cars - Restraint system: * A 3-point seat belts for outboard passengers, center rear lap belt * B seat belt + emergency pretensioners for front passenger seat & driver-side front airbag * C seat belt + emergency pretensioners for both front seats * D seat belt + emergency pretensioners for both front seats, driver-side front air bag and knee bolster * E seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear lap belt (SL-Class does not have rear seats) * F seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt (SL-Class & SLK-Class do not have rear seats) ['96-'98 210-series E-class sedan, '98-'99 210-series E-class wagon, '96- R129 SL-Class, '98- R170 SLK-Class] * G seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear lap belt (CL-Class & CLK-Class do not have center rear seat position) ['97-'99 140-series S-class, '98-'00 202-series C-Class, '98-'02 208-series CLK-Class coupe, '99-'03 208-series CLK-Class convertible] * H seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, front to rear side curtain airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt ['99 210-series E-Class sedan] * J seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, front to rear side curtain airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt ['00- 210-series E-Class, '00- 220-series S-Class, '00- 215-series CL-Class, '01- 203-series C-Class, '03- 209-series CLK-Class coupe] SUVs - GVWR ('98-'09): * E = Class E: 6001-7000 lbs. ('98-'09 M-Class, '02-'09 G-Class, '06-'09 R-Class, '07-'09 GL-Class) SUVs - Restraint system & GVWR ('10-): ===Position 9, Check Digit=== [[Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Check digit |Check digit]] ===Position 10, Model Year: === [[Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Model year|Model year]] ===Position 11, Production Plant:=== * A-D: Sindelfingen, Germany * E: Sindelfingen, Germany (through 2000) * E: Juiz de Fora, Minas Gerais, Brazil (from 2001) * E: Mishawaka, Indiana, US (AM General plant) ('16-'17 R-Class for China) * F-H: Bremen, Germany * J, K: Rastatt, Germany * L: Pekan, Pahang, Malaysia (HICOM Automotive Manufacturers plant) * M: Woking, England, UK (SLR McLaren) (McLaren Automotive plant) * N, P: Kecskemet, Hungary * R, S: East London, South Africa * T: Osnabrück, Germany (Karmann plant) * U: Sindelfingen, Germany * V: Uusikaupunki, Finland (Valmet Automotive plant) * W: Aguascalientes, Mexico (COMPAS plant) * X: Graz, Austria (Magna Steyr plant) * 1: Pune, Maharashtra, India For 4JG and 55S: * A, B, U: Vance, Alabama, US ===Positions 12–17, Serial Number=== ==Commercial Vehicles== Position 1-3 * WDB - Daimler-Benz AG, DaimlerChrysler AG, Daimler AG * VSA - Mercedes-Benz Espana SA (1st gen. Vito/V-Class - W638) * WDF - DaimlerChrysler AG, Daimler AG (Citan, Vito/V-Class & X-Class) * W1T - Daimler AG (Daimler Truck Holding AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz truck) * W1V - Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz van) Position 4–6, Model *414 - Vaneo *415 - Mark 1 Citan *420 - Mark 2 Citan *447 - Mark 3 Vito *470 - X-Class *638 - Mark 1 Vito *639 - Mark 2 Vito *670 - Vario *901 - Sprinter T1N *902 - Sprinter T1N *903 - Sprinter T1N *904 - Sprinter T1N *905 - Sprinter T1N *906 - Sprinter NCV3 *907 - Sprinter VS30 (RWD) *910 - Sprinter VS30 (FWD) *930 - Actros Rigids *933 - Actros MP2 concrete mixer *934 - Actros MP2 tractor *944 - Axor Tractor *950 - Axor Rigids / Actros Mk1 Rigids *952 - Axor *954 - Actros Mk1 Tractor *956 - Econic *963 - NEW ACTROS MP4 (Common-Rail engine) / Antos *964 - NEW ACTROS MP4 (Common-Rail engine) / Arocs *967 - Atego *970 - Atego *972 - Atego *976 - Atego Fire Position 7–9, Weight and Length code Position 10, Drive indicator *1 Left hand drive *2 Right hand drive Position 11, Plant code * E: Buenos Aires, Argentina * G: Barcelona, Spain (Nissan plant) (X-Class pickup) * N: Ludwigsfelde, Germany * P, R, S: Dusseldorf, Germany * T: Ladson, South Carolina, US * U: Maubeuge, France (Renault plant) (Citan, T-Class, EQT) * V: Worth, Germany * 3: Vitoria, Spain * 4: Vitoria, Spain (When Position 1-3 is W1V) * 4: Worth, Germany * 5: Dusseldorf, Germany * 9: Ludwigsfelde, Germany Position 12–17, Serial Number Position 18, Check Digit ==External links== Online [http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz Vito decoder] WDB1260251A336981 {{BookCat}} jnsuupjxwe5i5y7npqux2oa1q9i93xz 4520869 4520868 2025-07-01T21:16:15Z JustTheFacts33 3434282 /* Positions 6–7, Model within the series: */ 4520869 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Warning}}{{clear}} Mercedes-Benz uses the following VIN formats: (Note) This chart is not applicable to Mercedes-Benz products made for markets other than North America. European/World market cars use a different system for encoding VIN numbers. ==1960-1980== Position 1-3 - chassis code (e.g. 107, 116, 123, etc.) Position 4-6 - model type (e.g. 024, 032, 033, 036, 044, 045, etc.) Position 7 - 1=LH Drive (made in Germany), 2=RH Drive (made in Germany), 5=LH Drive CKD, 6=RH Drive CKD (Complete Knocked Down, assembled outside Germany)1 Position 8 - 0=Manual transmission, 1=Hydraulic clutch, 2= Automatic transmission 2 (Alphabetics indicate Plant of Manufacture i.e.: A = Sindelfingen) Position 9-14 - Construction serial number 10704312006193 ==Passenger Vehicles 1981-== ===Positions 1–3, World Manufacturer Identifier:=== * WDB Daimler-Benz AG (DaimlerChrysler after 1998) (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz or Maybach passenger car) * WDC DaimlerChrysler AG (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * WDD DaimlerChrysler AG (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) * W1K Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) * W1N Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * 4JG Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * 55S Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) ===Position 4, Model or Series:=== * A W123 300-Class * B R107 SL-Class * B C107 SLC-Class * C W126/C126 S-Class * D W201 190-Class * E W124 300-Class/E-Class * F R129 SL-Class * G W140/C140 S-Class, C140 CL-Class * H W202 C-Class * J W210 E-Class * K R170 SLK-Class * L C208/A208 CLK-Class * N W220 S-Class * P C215 CL-Class * R W203 C-Class * S R230 SL-Class * T C209/A209 CLK-Class * U W211 E-Class * W R171 SLK-Class *---------------------------------- * A C199/R199/Z199 SLR McLaren * D C219 CLS-Class * E C216 CL-Class * F W245 B-Class (Canada only) * G W204 C-Class * H W212/S212 E-Class sedan/wagon * J R231 SL-Class * K C207/A207 E-Class coupe/convertible * L C218 CLS-Class * M W246 B-Class (Canada only) * N W221 S-Class * P R172 SLK-Class/SLC-Class * R C197/R197 SLS AMG * S C117 CLA-Class * U W222 S-Class sedan * V W240 Maybach 57/62 * V N242 B-Class Electric * W W205 C-Class * X C217/A217 S-Class coupe/convertible * Y C190/R190 AMG GT coupe/roadster * Z W213/S213/X213 E-Class sedan/wagon/All-Terrain wagon * 1 C238/A238 E-Class coupe/convertible * 2 C257 CLS-Class * 3 V177 A-Class sedan * 3 W177 A-Class hatchback (Canada only) * 5 C118 CLA-Class * 6 W223 S-Class sedan * 7 X290 AMG GT 4-door coupe * A W206 C-Class * C V297 EQS-Class sedan * E V295 EQE-Class sedan * L W214/X214 E-Class sedan/All-Terrain wagon * M C236/A236 CLE-Class coupe/convertible * R C192 AMG GT coupe * V R232 SL-Class *---------------------------------- * A W163 M-Class * B W164 M-Class * B X164 GL-Class * C W251 R-Class * D W166 M-Class/GLE-Class * D X166 GL-Class/GLS-Class * D X296 EQS-Class SUV * E C292 GLE-Class Coupe * F W167/C167 GLE-Class * F X167 GLS-Class * G X204 GLK-Class * 0 X253/C253 GLC-Class * G X294 EQE-Class SUV * K X254/C254 GLC-Class * T X156 GLA-Class * Y W463 G-Class * W W465 G-Class * 4 H247 GLA-Class * 4 X247 GLB-Class * 9 X243 EQB-Class ===Position 5, Body Style:=== Passenger Cars: * B = Long Body * F = Sedan ('96+ E-Class, '01+ C-Class, '06 S-Class [S350], Maybach 57) * F = 5-door hatchback (Canada only: '19-'22 A-Class) * G = Sedan Long Wheelbase ('00+ S-Class, Maybach 62) * G = Sedan ('19-'22 A-Class sedan) * H = Wagon ('98-'09, '11- E-Class wagon, '02-'05 C-Class wagon, Canada only: '19-'21 C-Class wagon) * H = "Sedan" [5-door hatchback/compact minivan] ('06-'11, '13-'19 B-Class [gas engine] - Canada only) * J = 2-door Coupe ('98-'09 CLK-Class Coupe, '12-'15, '17-'23 C-Class coupe, '10-'23 E-Class coupe, '24- CLE-Class coupe, '00-'14 CL-Class, '15-'21 S-Class coupe, '05-'07 SLR McLaren coupe, '11-'15 SLS AMG coupe, '16-'21, '24- AMG GT coupe) * J = 4-door Coupe ('06-'23 CLS-Class, '14- CLA-Class) * K = Cabriolet/Roadster ('99-'09 CLK-Class Cabriolet, '17-'23 C-Class Cabriolet, '11-'23 E-Class Cabriolet, '24- CLE-Class Cabriolet, '17-'21 S-Class Cabriolet, '98-'16 SLK-Class, '17-'20 SLC-Class, '03+ SL-Class, '08-'09 SLR McLaren roadster, '12-'15 SLS AMG roadster, '18-'21 AMG GT roadster) * N = "Coupe" [3-door hatchback] ('02-'05 C-Class Sport Coupe) * P = "Sedan" [5-door hatchback/compact minivan] (B-Class Electric) * X = 4-door Coupe [5-door hatchback] ('19- AMG GT 4-door Coupe) SUVs: * A = 4-door MPV ('12-'15 M-Class, '16-'19 GLE-Class wagon) * B = 4-door MPV ('98-'11 M-Class) * B = 4-door MPV ('20-' GLE-Class wagon) * B = 4-door MPV ('06-'13 R-Class) * C = 4-door MPV ('10-'24 G-Class) * D = 4-door MPV ('16-'19, '21- GLE-Class Coupe) * F = 4-door MPV ('07-'16 GL-Class, '17- GLS-Class) * G = 4-door MPV ('10-'15 GLK-Class, '16-'22 GLC-Class wagon) * G = 4-door MPV ('15-'20 GLA-Class) * H = 4-door MPV ('25- G550, G63 AMG) * J = 4-door MPV ('17- GLC-Class Coupe) * M = 4-door MPV ('20- GLB-Class, '22- EQB-Class) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- GLC-Class wagon) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- EQE-Class SUV) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- EQS-Class SUV) * M = 4-door MPV ('25- G580 EQ [EV]) * N = 4-door MPV ('21- GLA-Class) * R = 4-door MPV ('02-'09 G-Class) On older models, this indicated the engine type, through much of the 1990s and into the 2000's for some models: * A = Gasoline (190 Class '84-'93, C-Class '94-'00, 300 Class '81, '86-'93, E-Class '94-'95, S-Class '81-'99, CL-Class '98-'99, SL-Class '81-'02, SLC '81) * B = Diesel (190 Class '84-'89, 300 Class '81-'85, '87, '90-'93, E-Class '95, S-Class '81-'87, '90-'95) * D = 4Matic Gasoline ('90-'93 300E 4Matic, 300TE 4Matic) * M = AMG Gasoline ('95-'97 C36 AMG only) ===Positions 6–7, Model within the series:=== '''V177:'''<br> *4E = A220 sedan ['19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4F = A220 4Matic sedan ['19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG A35 4Matic sedan ['20-'21 & in Canada: '22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) '''W177:'''<br> *4G = A250 hatchback [Canada only: '19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = A250 4Matic hatchback [Canada only: '19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG A35 4Matic hatchback [Canada only: '20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) '''W245:'''<br> *33 = B200 [Canada only: '06-'09] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve M266.980 I4 *3D = B200 [Canada only: '10-'11] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve M266.980 I4 *34 = B200 Turbo [Canada only: '06-'09] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve turbo M266.980 I4 *3E = B200 Turbo [Canada only: '10-'11] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve turbo M266.980 I4 *8G = B-Class F-Cell (hydrogen fuel cell) '''W246:'''<br> *4E = B250 [Canada only: '13-'19] 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve turbo M270 I4 *4G = B250 4Matic [Canada only: '15-'19] 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve turbo M270 I4 '''N242:'''<br> *9A = B-Class Electric Drive ['14-'15], B250e ['16-'17] (Tesla front electric motor, Lithium-ion battery pack, fwd, 177 hp) '''C117:'''<br> *4E = CLA250 sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *4G = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *5C = CLA45 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI AMG M133 I4) '''C118:'''<br> *4G = CLA250 sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = CLA250 sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG CLA35 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG CLA35 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5D = AMG CLA45 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) *5E = AMG CLA45 S 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) '''W201:'''<br> following DA in pos. 4-5: *24 = 190E 2.3 ['84-'86] (2.3-liter SOHC, 8 valve M102 I4) *28 = 190E 2.3 ['87-'88, '91-'93] (2.3-liter SOHC, 8 valve M102 I4) *29 = 190E 2.6 ['87-'93] (2.6-liter M103 I6) *34 = 190E 2.3-16 ['86-'87] (2.3-liter DOHC, 16 valve M102 I4) following DB in pos. 4-5: *22 = 190D 2.2 ['84-'85] (2.2-liter OM601 diesel I4) *26 = 190D 2.5 ['86-'89] (2.5-liter OM602 diesel I5) *28 = 190D 2.5 Turbo ['87] (2.5-liter OM602 turbodiesel I5) '''W202:'''<br> following HA in pos. 4-5: *22 = C220 ['94-'96] (2.2-liter M111 I4) *23 = C230 ['97-'98] (2.3-liter M111 I4) *24 = C230 Kompressor ['99-'00] (2.3-liter supercharged M111 I4) *28 = C280 ['94-'97] (2.8-liter M104 I6) *29 = C280 ['98-'00] (2.8-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *33 = C43 AMG ['98-'00] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113.944 V8) following HM in pos. 4-5: *36 = C36 AMG ['95-'97] (3.6-liter M104 AMG I6) '''W203/S203/CL203:'''<br> following RF in pos. 4-5: *40 = C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan ['03-'05] (1.8-liter supercharged M271 I4) *52 = C230 Sport Sedan ['06-'07] (2.5-liter M272 90° V6) *54 = C280 sedan ['06-'07] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = C350 sedan ['06-'07] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *61 = C240 sedan ['01-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *64 = C320 sedan ['01-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *65 = C32 AMG sedan ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve supercharged M112 90° V6) *76 = C55 AMG ['05-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *81 = C240 4Matic sedan ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *84 = C320 4Matic sedan ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *87 = C350 4Matic sedan ['06-'07] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *92 = C280 4Matic sedan ['06-'07] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) following RH in pos. 4-5: *61 = C240 wagon ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *64 = C320 wagon ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *81 = C240 4Matic wagon ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *84 = C320 4Matic wagon ['03-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) following RN in pos. 4-5: *47 = C230 Kompressor Sport Coupe ['02] (2.3-liter supercharged M111 I4) *40 = C230 Kompressor Sport Coupe ['03-'05] (1.8-liter supercharged M271 I4) *64 = C320 Sport Coupe ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''W204/C204:'''<br> following GF in pos. 4-5: *4H = C250 sedan ['12-'14] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *54 = C300 sedan ['08-'09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *5E = C300 sedan ['10-'11] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = C350 sedan ['08-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5G = C350 sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = C350 sedan ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *77 = C63 AMG sedan ['08-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = C63 AMG sedan ['10-'14], C63 AMG Edition 507 ['14] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *81 = C300 4Matic sedan ['08-'09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *8B = C300 4Matic sedan ['10-'12] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *8A = C300 4Matic sedan ['13-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 - detuned version) following GJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = C250 coupe ['12-'15] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *5H = C350 coupe ['12-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *7H = C63 AMG coupe ['12-'15], C63 AMG Black Series coupe ['12-'13], C63 AMG Edition 507 ['14-'15] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *8J = C350 4Matic coupe ['12-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) '''W205/S205/C205/A205:'''<br> following WF in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 sedan ['15-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic sedan ['15-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4H = C350e sedan ['16-'18] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8D = C300 sedan ['19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic sedan ['19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6G = C400 4Matic sedan ['15] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6E = C450 AMG Sport 4Matic sedan ['16], AMG C43 4Matic sedan ['17-'21] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 sedan ['15-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S sedan ['15-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following WH in pos. 4-5: *4K = C300 4Matic wagon [Canada: '18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic wagon [Canada: '19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic wagon [Canada: '19-'21] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) following WJ in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 coupe ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic coupe ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = C300 coupe ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic coupe ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic coupe ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 coupe ['17-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S coupe ['17-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following WK in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 convertible ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic convertible ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = C300 convertible ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic convertible ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic convertible ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 convertible ['17-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S convertible ['17-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W206:'''<br> following AF in pos. 4-5: *4G = C300 sedan ['22-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = C300 4Matic sedan ['22-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG C43 4Matic+ sedan ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG C63 S E Performance 4Matic sedan ['24-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''W123/S123/C123:'''<br> following AA in pos. 4-5: *33 = 280E ['81] (2.7-liter DOHC, 12-valve M110.984 I6) *53 = 280CE ['81] (2.7-liter DOHC, 12-valve M110.984 I6) following AB in pos. 4-5: *23 = 240D ['81-'83] (2.4-liter OM616 diesel I4) *30 = 300D ['81] (3.0-liter OM617 diesel I5) *33 = 300D Turbodiesel ['82-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *50 = 300CD ['81] (3.0-liter OM617 diesel I5) *53 = 300CD Turbodiesel ['82-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *93 = 300TD Turbodiesel ['81-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) '''W124/S124/C124/A124:'''<br> following EA in pos. 4-5: *26 = 260E ['87-'89], 300E 2.6 ['90-'92] (2.6-liter M103 I6) *28 = 300E 2.8 ['93] (2.8-liter M104 I6) *30 = 300E ['86-'92] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *32 = 300E ['93], E320 sedan ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *34 = 400E ['92-'93], E420 sedan ['94-'95] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *36 = 500E ['92-'93], E500 sedan ['94] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *50 = 300CE ['88-'89] (3.0-liter SOHC, 12 valve M103 I6) *51 = 300CE ['90-'92] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *52 = 300CE coupe ['93], E320 coupe ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *66 = 300CE convertible ['93], E320 convertible ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *90 = 300TE ['88-'92] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *92 = 300TE ['93], E320 wagon ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) following EB in pos. 4-5: *28 = 300D 2.5 Turbo ['90-'93] (2.5-liter OM602 turbodiesel I5) *31 = E300 Diesel ['95] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 diesel I6) *33 = 300D Turbo ['87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *93 = 300TD Turbo ['87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) following ED in pos. 4-5: *30 = 300E 4Matic ['90-'93] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *90 = 300TE 4Matic ['90-'93] (3.0-liter M103 I6) '''W210/S210:'''<br> following JF in pos. 4-5: *20 = E300 Diesel ['96-'97] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 diesel I6) *25 = E300 Turbodiesel ['98-'99] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 turbodiesel I6) *55 = E320 ['96-'97] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *65 = E320 sedan ['98-'02] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *72 = E420 ['97] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *70 = E430 ['98-'02] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = E55 AMG ['99-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic sedan ['98-'02] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E430 4Matic ['00-'02] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) following JH in pos. 4-5: *65 = E320 wagon ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *82 = E320 4Matic wagon ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''W211/S211:'''<br> following UF in pos. 4-5: *26 = E320 CDI sedan ['05-'06] (3.2-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM648 turbodiesel I6) *22 = E320 Bluetec sedan ['07-'09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *65 = E320 sedan ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = E350 sedan ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *70 = E500 sedan ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = E550 sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = E55 AMG sedan ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = E63 AMG sedan ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic sedan ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E500 4Matic sedan ['04-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *87 = E350 4Matic sedan ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *90 = E550 4Matic sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) following UH in pos. 4-5: *65 = E320 wagon ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = E350 wagon ['06] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *76 = E55 AMG wagon ['05-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = E63 AMG wagon ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic wagon ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E500 4Matic wagon ['04-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *87 = E350 4Matic wagon ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) '''W212/S212:'''<br> following HF in pos. 4-5: *2E = E350 Bluetec sedan ['11-'13] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *0E = E250 Bluetec sedan ['14-'16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5G = E350 sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 sedan ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7H = E63 AMG sedan ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7E = E63 AMG sedan ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = E63 AMG S 4Matic sedan ['14-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8B = E300 4Matic sedan [Canada only: '12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 - detuned version) *8H = E350 4Matic sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = E350 4Matic sedan ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *9A = E550 4Matic sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *9B = E550 4Matic sedan ['12-'14, Canada only: '15-'16] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9C = E63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'15] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *9F = E400 Hybrid sedan ['13-'15] (Mild Hybrid: 3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *9H = E250 Bluetec 4Matic sedan ['14-'16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve turbodiesel I4) following HH in pos. 4-5: *8H = E350 4Matic wagon ['11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = E350 4Matic wagon ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic wagon [Canada only: '15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7E = E63 AMG wagon ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = E63 AMG S 4Matic wagon ['14-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''W213/S213:'''<br> following ZF in pos. 4-5: *4J = E300 sedan ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = E300 4Matic sedan ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = E350 sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = E350 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6G = E400 4Matic sedan ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic sedan ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5K = E450 4Matic sedan ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6E = AMG E43 4Matic sedan ['17-'18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic sedan ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG E63 S 4Matic sedan ['18-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following ZH in pos. 4-5: *6G = E400 4Matic wagon ['17-'18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic wagon ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6A = E450 4Matic All-Terrain wagon ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG E63 S 4Matic wagon ['18-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W214/S214:'''<br> following LF in pos. 4-5: *4G = E350 sedan ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = E350 4Matic sedan ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = E450 4Matic sedan ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6D = AMG E53 4Matic+ Hybrid sedan ['25-] (PHEV: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following LH in pos. 4-5: *6F = E450 4Matic All-Terrain wagon ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C219:'''<br> *75 = CLS500 sedan ['06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLS550 sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7C = CLS550 sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLS55 AMG sedan ['06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = CLS63 AMG sedan ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = CLS63 AMG sedan ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''C218:'''<br> *6F = CLS400 sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = CLS400 4Matic sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = CLS550 sedan ['12-'18] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = CLS63 AMG sedan ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = CLS63 AMG S 4Matic sedan ['14-'18] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *9B = CLS550 4Matic sedan ['12-'18] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9C = CLS63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''C257:'''<br> *5J = CLS450 sedan ['19-'21] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = CLS450 4Matic sedan ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG CLS53 4Matic sedan ['19-'21] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X290:'''<br> *5K = AMG GT43 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GT53 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8J = AMG GT63 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-'21, '23-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8K = AMG GT63 S 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT63 S E Performance 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''V295:'''<br> *2B = EQE350+ sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 288 hp) *1C = EQE350 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) *2C = EQE500 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 402 hp) *5D = AMG EQE 4Matic+ sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 617 hp) '''W126/V126//C126:'''<br> following CA in pos. 4-5: *24 = 300SE ['88-'91] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *25 = 300SEL ['88-'91] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *32 = 380SE ['84-'85] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *33 = 380SEL ['81-'83] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *35 = 420SEL ['86-'91] (4.2-liter M116 V8) *37 = 500SEL ['84-'85] (5.0-liter M117 V8) *39 = 560SEL ['86-'91] (5.5-liter M117 V8) *43 = 380SEC ['82-'83] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *44 = 500SEC ['84-'85] (5.0-liter M117 V8) *45 = 560SEC ['86-'91] (5.5-liter M117 V8) following CB in pos. 4-5: *20 = 300SD Turbodiesel ['81-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *25 = 300SDL Turbodiesel ['86-'87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *34 = 350SD Turbodiesel ['91] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *35 = 350SDL Turbodiesel ['90-'91] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) '''W140/V140/C140:'''<br> following GA in pos. 4-5: *32 = 300SE ['92-'93], S320 sedan SWB ['94-'99] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *33 = S320 sedan LWB ['95-'99] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *42 = 400SE ['92] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *43 = 400SEL ['93], S420 ['94-'99] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *51 = 500SEL ['92-'93], S500 sedan ['94-'99] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *57 = 600SEL ['92-'93], S600 sedan ['94-'99] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) *70 = 500SEC ['93], S500 coupe ['94-'97], CL500 ['98-'99] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *76 = 600SEC ['93], S600 coupe ['94-'97], CL600 ['98-'99] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) following GB in pos. 4-5: *34 = 300SD Turbodiesel ['92-'93], S350 Turbodiesel ['94-'95] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) '''V220:'''<br> following NG in pos. 4-5: *70 = S430 ['00-'06] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *73 = S55 AMG ['01-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = S55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *75 = S500 ['00-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *78 = S600 ['01-'02] (5.8-liter SOHC, 36-valve M137 V12) *76 = S600 ['03-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = S65 AMG ['06] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *83 = S430 4Matic ['03-'06] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *84 = S500 4Matic ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''W220:'''<br> following NF in pos. 4-5: *67 = S350 ['06] (3.7-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''C215:'''<br> *73 = CL55 AMG ['01-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CL55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *75 = CL500 ['00-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *78 = CL600 ['01-'02] (5.8-liter SOHC, 36-valve M137 V12) *76 = CL600 ['03-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = CL65 AMG ['05-'06] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) '''V221:'''<br> following NG in pos. 4-5: *71 = S550 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7B = S550 ['10-'11] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7D = S550 ['12-'13] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *76 = S600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *7G = S600 ['10-'13] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = S63 AMG ['08-09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7H = S63 AMG ['10] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7E = S63 AMG ['11-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *79 = S65 AMG ['07-09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = S65 AMG ['10-'13] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *8D = S350 Bluetec 4Matic ['12-'13] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *86 = S550 4Matic ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *8G = S550 4Matic ['10-'11] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *9E = S550 4Matic ['12-'13] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9F = S400 Hybrid ['10-'13] (Mild Hybrid: 3.5-liter M272 90° Atkinson-cycle V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C216:'''<br> *71 = CL550 ['07-'08] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *76 = CL600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *7G = CL600 ['10-'14] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = CL63 AMG ['08-'09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7H = CL63 AMG ['10] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7E = CL63 AMG ['11-'14] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *79 = CL65 AMG ['08-'09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = CL65 AMG ['10-'14] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *86 = CL550 4Matic ['09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *8G = CL550 4Matic ['10] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *9E = CL550 4Matic ['11-'14] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) '''V222:'''<br> following UG in pos. 4-5: *6D = S550 Plug-in Hybrid ['15], S550e ['16-'17] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7D = S560e ['19-'20] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6G = S450 sedan ['18-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6E = S450 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8C = S550 sedan ['14-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8D = S560 sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *8F = S550 4Matic sedan ['14-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = S560 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7G = S600 sedan ['15-'17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M277 V12) *7K = S65 AMG sedan ['15-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''X222:'''<br> following UX in pos. 4-5: *8F = Mercedes-Maybach S550 4Matic sedan ['17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = Mercedes-Maybach S560 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7G = Mercedes-Maybach S600 sedan ['16-'17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M277 V12) *8A = Mercedes-Maybach S650 sedan ['18-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''C217:'''<br> following XJ in pos. 4-5: *8F = S550 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = S560 4Matic coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = S65 AMG coupe ['15-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''A217:'''<br> following XK in pos. 4-5: *8C = S550 convertible ['17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8D = S560 convertible ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic convertible ['17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic convertible ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = S65 AMG convertible ['17-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) *7K = Mercedes-Maybach S650 convertible ['17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''V223:'''<br> following 6G in pos. 4-5: *6D = S500 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6K = S580e 4Matic sedan ['23-] (PHEV: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7G = S580 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8C = AMG S63 E Performance 4Matic+ ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''Z223:'''<br> following 6X in pos. 4-5: *7G = Mercedes-Maybach S580 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7K = Mercedes-Maybach S680 4Matic sedan ['22-] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''V297:'''<br> *2D = EQS450+ sedan ['22-'23] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 329 hp) *2D = EQS450+ sedan ['24-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 355 hp) *2E = EQS450 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 355 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic sedan ['22-'23] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 516 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic sedan ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 536 hp) *5F = AMG EQS 4Matic+ sedan ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 649 hp) '''W240:'''<br> following VF in pos. 4-5: *78 = Maybach 57 ['04-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *7J = Maybach 57 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *79 = Maybach 57S ['06-'09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7K = Maybach 57S ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 57S Zeppelin ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 57S ['11-'12] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) '''V240:'''<br> following VG in pos. 4-5: *78 = Maybach 62 ['04-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *7J = Maybach 62 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *79 = Maybach 62S ['07-'09], 62S Landaulet ('09) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7K = Maybach 62S ['10], 62S Landaulet ('10) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 62S Zeppelin ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 62S ['11-'12], 62S Landaulet ('11-'12) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) '''C208/A208:'''<br> following LJ in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['98-'02 coupe] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *70 = CLK430 ['99-'02 coupe] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CLK55 AMG ['01-'02 coupe] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) following LK in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['99-'03 convertible] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *70 = CLK430 ['00-'03 convertible] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CLK55 AMG ['02 convertible] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''C209/A209:'''<br> following TJ in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['03-'05 coupe] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = CLK350 ['06-'09 coupe] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = CLK500 ['03-'06 coupe] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLK550 ['07-'09 coupe] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLK55 AMG ['03-'05 coupe] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = CLK63 AMG Black Series ['08 coupe] (6.2-liter M156 V8) following TK in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['04-'05 convertible] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = CLK350 ['06-'09 convertible] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = CLK500 ['04-'06 convertible] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLK550 ['07-'09 convertible] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLK55 AMG ['04-'06 convertible] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = CLK63 AMG ['07-'08 convertible] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''C207/A207:'''<br> following KJ in pos. 4-5: *5G = E350 coupe ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 coupe ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 coupe ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 coupe ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7D = E550 coupe ['12-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8J = E350 4Matic coupe ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) following KK in pos. 4-5: *5G = E350 convertible ['11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 convertible ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 convertible ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 convertible ['11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7D = E550 convertible ['12-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) '''C238/A238:'''<br> following 1J in pos. 4-5: *6F = E400 coupe ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = E400 4Matic coupe ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E450 coupe ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic coupe ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5J = E450 coupe ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = E450 4Matic coupe ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic coupe ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following 1K in pos. 4-5: *6F = E400 convertible ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = E400 4Matic convertible ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E450 convertible ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic convertible ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5J = E450 convertible ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = E450 4Matic convertible ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic convertible ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C236/A236:'''<br> following MJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = CLE300 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = CLE450 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6C = AMG CLE53 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following MK in pos. 4-5: *4H = CLE300 4Matic convertible ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = CLE450 4Matic convertible ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6C = AMG CLE53 4Matic convertible ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''R170:'''<br> following KK in pos. 4-5: *47 = SLK230 Kompressor ['98-'00] (2.3-liter M111.973 supercharged I4) *49 = SLK230 Kompressor ['01-'04] (2.3-liter M111.983 supercharged I4) *65 = SLK320 ['01-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *66 = SLK32 AMG ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 supercharged 90° V6) '''R171:'''<br> following WK in pos. 4-5: *54 = SLK280 ['06-'08], SLK300 ['09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *5E = SLK300 ['10-'11] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = SLK350 ['05-'08] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *58 = SLK350 ['09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5J = SLK350 ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *73 = SLK55 AMG ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *7D = SLK55 AMG ['10] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''R172:'''<br> following PK in pos. 4-5: *4H = SLK250 ['12-'15] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *3J = SLK300 ['16], SLC300 ['17-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *5H = SLK350 ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = SLC43 AMG ['17-'20] (3.0-liter twin-turbocharged M276 60° GDI V6) *7F = SLK55 AMG ['12-'16] (5.5-liter M152 GDI V8) '''R107:'''<br> following BA in pos. 4-5: *45 = 380SL ['81-'85] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *48 = 560SL ['86-'89] (5.5-liter M117 V8) '''C107:'''<br> following BA in pos. 4-5: *25 = 380SLC ['81] (3.8-liter M116 V8) '''R129:'''<br> following FA in pos. 4-5: *61 = 300SL ['90-'93] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *63 = SL320 ['94-'97] (3.2-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *66 = 500SL ['90-'92] (5.0-liter DOHC, 32-valve M119 V8) *67 = 500SL ['93], SL500 ['94-'98] (5.0-liter DOHC, 32-valve M119 V8) *68 = SL500 ['99-'02] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *76 = 600SL ['93], SL600 ['94-'02] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) '''R230:'''<br> following SK in pos. 4-5: *75 = SL500 ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *71 = SL550 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7B = SL550 ['11-'12] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *74 = SL55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *72 = SL55 AMG ['07-'08] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *70 = SL63 AMG ['09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7A = SL63 AMG ['11-'12] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *76 = SL600 ['04-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = SL600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = SL65 AMG ['05-'09], SL65 AMG Black Series ['09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = SL65 AMG ['11] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) '''R231:'''<br> following JK in pos. 4-5: *6F = SL400 ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = SL450 ['17-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = SL550 ['13-'20] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = SL63 AMG ['13-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7K = SL65 AMG ['13-'18] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''R232:'''<br> following VK in pos. 4-5: *5A = AMG SL43 ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 2 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG SL55 4Matic+ ['22-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8B = AMG SL63 4Matic+ ['22-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8C = AMG SL63 S E Performance 4Matic+ ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C199/R199:'''<br> *76 = SLR McLaren ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M155 V8) '''C197/R197:'''<br> following RJ in pos. 4-5: *7H = SLS AMG coupe ['11-'12] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7J = SLS AMG GT coupe ['13-'15] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7H = SLS AMG Black Series coupe ['14] (6.2-liter M159 V8) following RK in pos. 4-5: *7H = SLS AMG roadster ['12] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7J = SLS AMG GT roadster ['13-'15] (6.2-liter M159 V8) '''C190:'''<br> following YJ in pos. 4-5: *7H = AMG GT 2-d coupe (base model) ['17-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT 2-d coupe (base model) ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *AJ = AMG GT 2-d coupe S ['16] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7J = AMG GT 2-d coupe S ['16-'19] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8A = AMG GT 2-d coupe C ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d coupe R ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d coupe R Pro ['20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8B = AMG GT 2-d coupe Black Series ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 LS2 GDI flat-plane crank V8) '''R190:'''<br> following YK in pos. 4-5: *7H = AMG GT roadster (base model) ['17-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT roadster (base model) ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8A = AMG GT roadster C ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d roadster R ['20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) '''C192:'''<br> following RJ in pos. 4-5: *4C = AMG GT43 coupe ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 2 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GT55 4Matic+ coupe ['24-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7J = AMG GT63 4Matic+ coupe ['24-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT63 S E Performance 4Matic+ coupe ['25-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8J = AMG GT63 Pro 4Matic+ coupe ['25-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''X156:'''<br> *4E = GLA250 ['15-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *4G = GLA250 4Matic ['15-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *5C = GLA45 AMG 4Matic ['15-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI AMG M133 I4) '''H247:'''<br> *4G = GLA250 ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = GLA250 ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLA250 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = GLA250 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG GLA35 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG GLA35 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5D = AMG GLA45 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) '''X247:'''<br> *4G = GLB250 ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = GLB250 ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLB250 4Matic ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = GLB250 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG GLB35 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG GLB35 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X243:'''<br> *0C = EQB250+ ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 front motor, Fwd, 188 hp) *0K = EQB300 4Matic ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 225 hp) *1D = EQB350 4Matic ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) '''X204:'''<br> *0E = GLK250 Bluetec 4Matic ['13-'15] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5G = GLK350 2wd ['10-'12] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = GLK350 2wd ['13-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *8H = GLK350 4Matic ['10-'12] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = GLK350 4Matic ['13-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) '''X253:'''<br> following 0G in pos. 4-5: *4J = GLC300 2wd ['16-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = GLC300 4Matic ['16-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = GLC300 2wd ['20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = GLC300 4Matic ['20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *5E = GLC350e 4Matic ['18-'19] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + 114 hp electric motor, 8.7 kWh lithium-ion battery) *5D = GLC350e 4Matic ['20] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + 121 hp electric motor, 13.5 kWh lithium-ion battery) *6E = AMG GLC43 4Matic ['17-'22] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8J = AMG GLC63 4Matic ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''C253:'''<br> following 0J in pos. 4-5: *4K = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8E = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG GLC43 4Matic Coupe ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8J = AMG GLC63 4Matic Coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8K = AMG GLC63 S 4Matic Coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''X254:'''<br> following KM in pos. 4-5: *4G = GLC300 2wd ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLC300 4Matic ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5G = GLC350e 4Matic ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG GLC43 4Matic ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GLC63 S E Performance 4Matic ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''C254:'''<br> following KJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG GLC43 4Matic Coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GLC63 S E Performance 4Matic Coupe ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''W163:'''<br> *54 = ML320 ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *57 = ML350 ['03-'05] (3.7-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *72 = ML430 ['99-'01] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = ML55 AMG ['00-'03] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *75 = ML500 ['02-'05] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''W164:'''<br> *22 = ML320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = ML320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = ML350 Bluetec ['10-'11] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *56 = ML350 2wd ['09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5G = ML350 2wd ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *86 = ML350 4Matic ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8G = ML350 4Matic ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = ML500 ['06-'07] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = ML550 ['08-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7C = ML550 ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *77 = ML63 AMG ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = ML63 AMG ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *9F = ML450 Hybrid 4Matic ['10-'11] (2-Mode Hybrid: 3.5-liter Atkinson-cycle M272 90° V6 + 2 electric motors, Nickel–metal hydride battery) '''W166:'''<br> following DA in pos. 4-5: *2E = ML350 Bluetec ['12-'14 & '15 in Canada], GLE350d [Canada only: '16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *0E = ML250 Bluetec ['15], GLE300d ['16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5J = ML350 2wd ['13-'15], GLE350 2wd ['16-'18] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *5H = ML350 4Matic ['12-'15], GLE350 4Matic ['16-'18] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *5G = ML400 4Matic ['15], GLE400 4Matic ['16-'17 & '19, Canada only: '18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6D = GLE550e 4Matic ['16-'18] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6E = GLE450 AMG Sport 4Matic [Canada only: '16], AMG GLE43 4Matic ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = ML550 ['12-'14 & '15 in Canada], GLE550 [Canada only: '16-'19] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = ML63 AMG ['12-'15], AMG GLE63 ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = AMG GLE63 S ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''C292:'''<br> following ED in pos. 4-5: *2E = GLE350d Coupe [Canada only: '16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *6E = GLE450 AMG Sport 4Matic Coupe ['16], AMG GLE43 4Matic Coupe ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7F = AMG GLE63 S Coupe ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''W167:'''<br> following FB in pos. 4-5: *4J = GLE350 2wd ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *4K = GLE350 4Matic ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *4E = GLE350 2wd ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4F = GLE350 4Matic ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4G = GLE450e 4Matic ['24-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = GLE450 ['20-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GLE53 ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8G = GLE580 ['20-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8F = GLE580 ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLE63 S ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C167:'''<br> following FD in pos. 4-5: *5K = GLE450 Coupe [Canada only: '22-'24, US & Canada: '25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GLE53 Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLE63 S Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X294:'''<br> *2B = EQE350+ SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 288 hp) *1C = EQE350 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) *2C = EQE500 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 402 hp) *5D = AMG EQE 4Matic+ SUV ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 617 hp) '''V251:'''<br> *22 = R320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = R320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = R350 Bluetec ['10-'12 & '13 in Canada] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *56 = R350 2wd ['08] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *65 = R350 4Matic ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *6F = R350 4Matic ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = R350 4Matic ['12 & '13 in Canada] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *75 = R500 ['06-'07] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = R63 AMG ['07] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''X164:'''<br> *22 = GL320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = GL320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = GL350 Bluetec ['10-'12] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *71 = GL450 ['07-'09] (4.7-liter M273 V8) *7B = GL450 ['10-'12] (4.7-liter M273 V8) *86 = GL550 ['08-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *8G = GL550 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter M273 V8) '''X166:'''<br> *2E = GL350 Bluetec ['13-'16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *7C = GL450 ['13-'14] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8 - detuned version) *6E = GL450 ['15-'16], GLS450 ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = GL550 ['13-'16], GLS550 ['17-'19] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = GL63 AMG ['13-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = AMG GLS63 ['17-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''X167:'''<br> *5K = GLS450 ['20-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8G = GLS580 ['20-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8F = GLS580 ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = Mercedes-Maybach GLS600 ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLS63 4MATIC+ ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X296:'''<br> *2D = EQS450+ SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 355 hp) *2E = EQS450 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 355 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 536 hp) '''Z296:'''<br> *5F = Mercedes-Maybach EQS680 4Matic SUV ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 649 hp) '''W463 (1st gen.):'''<br> *49 = G500 ['02-'08] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *37 = G550 ['09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *3H = G550 ['10-'15] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *3K = G550 ['16-'18] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *5F = G550 4x4² ['17-'18] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *46 = G55 AMG ['03-'04] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *71 = G55 AMG ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *7B = G55 AMG ['10-'11] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *7D = G63 AMG ['13-'18] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = G65 AMG ['16-'18] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''W463 (2nd gen.):'''<br> *6B = G550 ['19-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7H = AMG G63 ['19-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8A = AMG G63 4x4² ['22-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W465:'''<br> following WH in pos. 4-5: *1A = G550 ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5A = AMG G63 ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''N465:'''<br> following WM in pos. 4-5: *0A = G580 with EQ Technology ['25-] (battery-electric, 4 motors, 4wd, 579 hp) ===Position 8=== Passenger cars - Restraint system: * A 3-point seat belts for outboard passengers, center rear lap belt * B seat belt + emergency pretensioners for front passenger seat & driver-side front airbag * C seat belt + emergency pretensioners for both front seats * D seat belt + emergency pretensioners for both front seats, driver-side front air bag and knee bolster * E seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear lap belt (SL-Class does not have rear seats) * F seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt (SL-Class & SLK-Class do not have rear seats) ['96-'98 210-series E-class sedan, '98-'99 210-series E-class wagon, '96- R129 SL-Class, '98- R170 SLK-Class] * G seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear lap belt (CL-Class & CLK-Class do not have center rear seat position) ['97-'99 140-series S-class, '98-'00 202-series C-Class, '98-'02 208-series CLK-Class coupe, '99-'03 208-series CLK-Class convertible] * H seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, front to rear side curtain airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt ['99 210-series E-Class sedan] * J seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, front to rear side curtain airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt ['00- 210-series E-Class, '00- 220-series S-Class, '00- 215-series CL-Class, '01- 203-series C-Class, '03- 209-series CLK-Class coupe] SUVs - GVWR ('98-'09): * E = Class E: 6001-7000 lbs. ('98-'09 M-Class, '02-'09 G-Class, '06-'09 R-Class, '07-'09 GL-Class) SUVs - Restraint system & GVWR ('10-): ===Position 9, Check Digit=== [[Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Check digit |Check digit]] ===Position 10, Model Year: === [[Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Model year|Model year]] ===Position 11, Production Plant:=== * A-D: Sindelfingen, Germany * E: Sindelfingen, Germany (through 2000) * E: Juiz de Fora, Minas Gerais, Brazil (from 2001) * E: Mishawaka, Indiana, US (AM General plant) ('16-'17 R-Class for China) * F-H: Bremen, Germany * J, K: Rastatt, Germany * L: Pekan, Pahang, Malaysia (HICOM Automotive Manufacturers plant) * M: Woking, England, UK (SLR McLaren) (McLaren Automotive plant) * N, P: Kecskemet, Hungary * R, S: East London, South Africa * T: Osnabrück, Germany (Karmann plant) * U: Sindelfingen, Germany * V: Uusikaupunki, Finland (Valmet Automotive plant) * W: Aguascalientes, Mexico (COMPAS plant) * X: Graz, Austria (Magna Steyr plant) * 1: Pune, Maharashtra, India For 4JG and 55S: * A, B, U: Vance, Alabama, US ===Positions 12–17, Serial Number=== ==Commercial Vehicles== Position 1-3 * WDB - Daimler-Benz AG, DaimlerChrysler AG, Daimler AG * VSA - Mercedes-Benz Espana SA (1st gen. Vito/V-Class - W638) * WDF - DaimlerChrysler AG, Daimler AG (Citan, Vito/V-Class & X-Class) * W1T - Daimler AG (Daimler Truck Holding AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz truck) * W1V - Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz van) Position 4–6, Model *414 - Vaneo *415 - Mark 1 Citan *420 - Mark 2 Citan *447 - Mark 3 Vito *470 - X-Class *638 - Mark 1 Vito *639 - Mark 2 Vito *670 - Vario *901 - Sprinter T1N *902 - Sprinter T1N *903 - Sprinter T1N *904 - Sprinter T1N *905 - Sprinter T1N *906 - Sprinter NCV3 *907 - Sprinter VS30 (RWD) *910 - Sprinter VS30 (FWD) *930 - Actros Rigids *933 - Actros MP2 concrete mixer *934 - Actros MP2 tractor *944 - Axor Tractor *950 - Axor Rigids / Actros Mk1 Rigids *952 - Axor *954 - Actros Mk1 Tractor *956 - Econic *963 - NEW ACTROS MP4 (Common-Rail engine) / Antos *964 - NEW ACTROS MP4 (Common-Rail engine) / Arocs *967 - Atego *970 - Atego *972 - Atego *976 - Atego Fire Position 7–9, Weight and Length code Position 10, Drive indicator *1 Left hand drive *2 Right hand drive Position 11, Plant code * E: Buenos Aires, Argentina * G: Barcelona, Spain (Nissan plant) (X-Class pickup) * N: Ludwigsfelde, Germany * P, R, S: Dusseldorf, Germany * T: Ladson, South Carolina, US * U: Maubeuge, France (Renault plant) (Citan, T-Class, EQT) * V: Worth, Germany * 3: Vitoria, Spain * 4: Vitoria, Spain (When Position 1-3 is W1V) * 4: Worth, Germany * 5: Dusseldorf, Germany * 9: Ludwigsfelde, Germany Position 12–17, Serial Number Position 18, Check Digit ==External links== Online [http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz Vito decoder] WDB1260251A336981 {{BookCat}} apmu838qm0cfbpbheio086gbscj1k7e 4520870 4520869 2025-07-01T21:18:14Z JustTheFacts33 3434282 /* Position 4, Model or Series: */ 4520870 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Warning}}{{clear}} Mercedes-Benz uses the following VIN formats: (Note) This chart is not applicable to Mercedes-Benz products made for markets other than North America. European/World market cars use a different system for encoding VIN numbers. ==1960-1980== Position 1-3 - chassis code (e.g. 107, 116, 123, etc.) Position 4-6 - model type (e.g. 024, 032, 033, 036, 044, 045, etc.) Position 7 - 1=LH Drive (made in Germany), 2=RH Drive (made in Germany), 5=LH Drive CKD, 6=RH Drive CKD (Complete Knocked Down, assembled outside Germany)1 Position 8 - 0=Manual transmission, 1=Hydraulic clutch, 2= Automatic transmission 2 (Alphabetics indicate Plant of Manufacture i.e.: A = Sindelfingen) Position 9-14 - Construction serial number 10704312006193 ==Passenger Vehicles 1981-== ===Positions 1–3, World Manufacturer Identifier:=== * WDB Daimler-Benz AG (DaimlerChrysler after 1998) (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz or Maybach passenger car) * WDC DaimlerChrysler AG (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * WDD DaimlerChrysler AG (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) * W1K Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) * W1N Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * 4JG Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * 55S Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) ===Position 4, Model or Series:=== * A W123 300-Class * B R107 SL-Class * B C107 SLC-Class * C W126/C126 S-Class * D W201 190-Class * E W124 300-Class/E-Class * F R129 SL-Class * G W140/C140 S-Class, C140 CL-Class * H W202 C-Class * J W210 E-Class * K R170 SLK-Class * L C208/A208 CLK-Class * N W220 S-Class * P C215 CL-Class * R W203 C-Class * S R230 SL-Class * T C209/A209 CLK-Class * U W211 E-Class * W R171 SLK-Class *---------------------------------- * A C199/R199/Z199 SLR McLaren * D C219 CLS-Class * E C216 CL-Class * F W245 B-Class (Canada only) * G W204 C-Class * H W212/S212 E-Class sedan/wagon * J R231 SL-Class * K C207/A207 E-Class coupe/convertible * L C218 CLS-Class * M W246 B-Class (Canada only) * N W221 S-Class * P R172 SLK-Class/SLC-Class * R C197/R197 SLS AMG * S C117 CLA-Class * U W222 S-Class sedan * V W240 Maybach 57/62 * V N242 B-Class Electric * W W205 C-Class * X C217/A217 S-Class coupe/convertible * Y C190/R190 AMG GT coupe/roadster * Z W213/S213/X213 E-Class sedan/wagon/All-Terrain wagon * 1 C238/A238 E-Class coupe/convertible * 2 C257 CLS-Class * 3 V177 A-Class sedan * 3 W177 A-Class hatchback (Canada only) * 5 C118 CLA-Class * 6 W223 S-Class sedan * 7 X290 AMG GT 4-door coupe *---------------------------------- * A W206 C-Class * C V297 EQS-Class sedan * E V295 EQE-Class sedan * L W214/X214 E-Class sedan/All-Terrain wagon * M C236/A236 CLE-Class coupe/convertible * R C192 AMG GT coupe * V R232 SL-Class *---------------------------------- * A W163 M-Class * B W164 M-Class * B X164 GL-Class * C W251 R-Class * D W166 M-Class/GLE-Class * D X166 GL-Class/GLS-Class * D X296 EQS-Class SUV * E C292 GLE-Class Coupe * F W167/C167 GLE-Class * F X167 GLS-Class * G X204 GLK-Class * 0 X253/C253 GLC-Class * G X294 EQE-Class SUV * K X254/C254 GLC-Class * T X156 GLA-Class * Y W463 G-Class * W W465 G-Class * 4 H247 GLA-Class * 4 X247 GLB-Class * 9 X243 EQB-Class ===Position 5, Body Style:=== Passenger Cars: * B = Long Body * F = Sedan ('96+ E-Class, '01+ C-Class, '06 S-Class [S350], Maybach 57) * F = 5-door hatchback (Canada only: '19-'22 A-Class) * G = Sedan Long Wheelbase ('00+ S-Class, Maybach 62) * G = Sedan ('19-'22 A-Class sedan) * H = Wagon ('98-'09, '11- E-Class wagon, '02-'05 C-Class wagon, Canada only: '19-'21 C-Class wagon) * H = "Sedan" [5-door hatchback/compact minivan] ('06-'11, '13-'19 B-Class [gas engine] - Canada only) * J = 2-door Coupe ('98-'09 CLK-Class Coupe, '12-'15, '17-'23 C-Class coupe, '10-'23 E-Class coupe, '24- CLE-Class coupe, '00-'14 CL-Class, '15-'21 S-Class coupe, '05-'07 SLR McLaren coupe, '11-'15 SLS AMG coupe, '16-'21, '24- AMG GT coupe) * J = 4-door Coupe ('06-'23 CLS-Class, '14- CLA-Class) * K = Cabriolet/Roadster ('99-'09 CLK-Class Cabriolet, '17-'23 C-Class Cabriolet, '11-'23 E-Class Cabriolet, '24- CLE-Class Cabriolet, '17-'21 S-Class Cabriolet, '98-'16 SLK-Class, '17-'20 SLC-Class, '03+ SL-Class, '08-'09 SLR McLaren roadster, '12-'15 SLS AMG roadster, '18-'21 AMG GT roadster) * N = "Coupe" [3-door hatchback] ('02-'05 C-Class Sport Coupe) * P = "Sedan" [5-door hatchback/compact minivan] (B-Class Electric) * X = 4-door Coupe [5-door hatchback] ('19- AMG GT 4-door Coupe) SUVs: * A = 4-door MPV ('12-'15 M-Class, '16-'19 GLE-Class wagon) * B = 4-door MPV ('98-'11 M-Class) * B = 4-door MPV ('20-' GLE-Class wagon) * B = 4-door MPV ('06-'13 R-Class) * C = 4-door MPV ('10-'24 G-Class) * D = 4-door MPV ('16-'19, '21- GLE-Class Coupe) * F = 4-door MPV ('07-'16 GL-Class, '17- GLS-Class) * G = 4-door MPV ('10-'15 GLK-Class, '16-'22 GLC-Class wagon) * G = 4-door MPV ('15-'20 GLA-Class) * H = 4-door MPV ('25- G550, G63 AMG) * J = 4-door MPV ('17- GLC-Class Coupe) * M = 4-door MPV ('20- GLB-Class, '22- EQB-Class) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- GLC-Class wagon) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- EQE-Class SUV) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- EQS-Class SUV) * M = 4-door MPV ('25- G580 EQ [EV]) * N = 4-door MPV ('21- GLA-Class) * R = 4-door MPV ('02-'09 G-Class) On older models, this indicated the engine type, through much of the 1990s and into the 2000's for some models: * A = Gasoline (190 Class '84-'93, C-Class '94-'00, 300 Class '81, '86-'93, E-Class '94-'95, S-Class '81-'99, CL-Class '98-'99, SL-Class '81-'02, SLC '81) * B = Diesel (190 Class '84-'89, 300 Class '81-'85, '87, '90-'93, E-Class '95, S-Class '81-'87, '90-'95) * D = 4Matic Gasoline ('90-'93 300E 4Matic, 300TE 4Matic) * M = AMG Gasoline ('95-'97 C36 AMG only) ===Positions 6–7, Model within the series:=== '''V177:'''<br> *4E = A220 sedan ['19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4F = A220 4Matic sedan ['19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG A35 4Matic sedan ['20-'21 & in Canada: '22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) '''W177:'''<br> *4G = A250 hatchback [Canada only: '19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = A250 4Matic hatchback [Canada only: '19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG A35 4Matic hatchback [Canada only: '20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) '''W245:'''<br> *33 = B200 [Canada only: '06-'09] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve M266.980 I4 *3D = B200 [Canada only: '10-'11] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve M266.980 I4 *34 = B200 Turbo [Canada only: '06-'09] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve turbo M266.980 I4 *3E = B200 Turbo [Canada only: '10-'11] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve turbo M266.980 I4 *8G = B-Class F-Cell (hydrogen fuel cell) '''W246:'''<br> *4E = B250 [Canada only: '13-'19] 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve turbo M270 I4 *4G = B250 4Matic [Canada only: '15-'19] 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve turbo M270 I4 '''N242:'''<br> *9A = B-Class Electric Drive ['14-'15], B250e ['16-'17] (Tesla front electric motor, Lithium-ion battery pack, fwd, 177 hp) '''C117:'''<br> *4E = CLA250 sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *4G = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *5C = CLA45 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI AMG M133 I4) '''C118:'''<br> *4G = CLA250 sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = CLA250 sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG CLA35 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG CLA35 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5D = AMG CLA45 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) *5E = AMG CLA45 S 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) '''W201:'''<br> following DA in pos. 4-5: *24 = 190E 2.3 ['84-'86] (2.3-liter SOHC, 8 valve M102 I4) *28 = 190E 2.3 ['87-'88, '91-'93] (2.3-liter SOHC, 8 valve M102 I4) *29 = 190E 2.6 ['87-'93] (2.6-liter M103 I6) *34 = 190E 2.3-16 ['86-'87] (2.3-liter DOHC, 16 valve M102 I4) following DB in pos. 4-5: *22 = 190D 2.2 ['84-'85] (2.2-liter OM601 diesel I4) *26 = 190D 2.5 ['86-'89] (2.5-liter OM602 diesel I5) *28 = 190D 2.5 Turbo ['87] (2.5-liter OM602 turbodiesel I5) '''W202:'''<br> following HA in pos. 4-5: *22 = C220 ['94-'96] (2.2-liter M111 I4) *23 = C230 ['97-'98] (2.3-liter M111 I4) *24 = C230 Kompressor ['99-'00] (2.3-liter supercharged M111 I4) *28 = C280 ['94-'97] (2.8-liter M104 I6) *29 = C280 ['98-'00] (2.8-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *33 = C43 AMG ['98-'00] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113.944 V8) following HM in pos. 4-5: *36 = C36 AMG ['95-'97] (3.6-liter M104 AMG I6) '''W203/S203/CL203:'''<br> following RF in pos. 4-5: *40 = C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan ['03-'05] (1.8-liter supercharged M271 I4) *52 = C230 Sport Sedan ['06-'07] (2.5-liter M272 90° V6) *54 = C280 sedan ['06-'07] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = C350 sedan ['06-'07] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *61 = C240 sedan ['01-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *64 = C320 sedan ['01-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *65 = C32 AMG sedan ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve supercharged M112 90° V6) *76 = C55 AMG ['05-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *81 = C240 4Matic sedan ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *84 = C320 4Matic sedan ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *87 = C350 4Matic sedan ['06-'07] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *92 = C280 4Matic sedan ['06-'07] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) following RH in pos. 4-5: *61 = C240 wagon ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *64 = C320 wagon ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *81 = C240 4Matic wagon ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *84 = C320 4Matic wagon ['03-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) following RN in pos. 4-5: *47 = C230 Kompressor Sport Coupe ['02] (2.3-liter supercharged M111 I4) *40 = C230 Kompressor Sport Coupe ['03-'05] (1.8-liter supercharged M271 I4) *64 = C320 Sport Coupe ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''W204/C204:'''<br> following GF in pos. 4-5: *4H = C250 sedan ['12-'14] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *54 = C300 sedan ['08-'09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *5E = C300 sedan ['10-'11] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = C350 sedan ['08-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5G = C350 sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = C350 sedan ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *77 = C63 AMG sedan ['08-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = C63 AMG sedan ['10-'14], C63 AMG Edition 507 ['14] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *81 = C300 4Matic sedan ['08-'09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *8B = C300 4Matic sedan ['10-'12] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *8A = C300 4Matic sedan ['13-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 - detuned version) following GJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = C250 coupe ['12-'15] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *5H = C350 coupe ['12-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *7H = C63 AMG coupe ['12-'15], C63 AMG Black Series coupe ['12-'13], C63 AMG Edition 507 ['14-'15] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *8J = C350 4Matic coupe ['12-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) '''W205/S205/C205/A205:'''<br> following WF in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 sedan ['15-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic sedan ['15-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4H = C350e sedan ['16-'18] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8D = C300 sedan ['19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic sedan ['19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6G = C400 4Matic sedan ['15] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6E = C450 AMG Sport 4Matic sedan ['16], AMG C43 4Matic sedan ['17-'21] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 sedan ['15-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S sedan ['15-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following WH in pos. 4-5: *4K = C300 4Matic wagon [Canada: '18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic wagon [Canada: '19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic wagon [Canada: '19-'21] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) following WJ in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 coupe ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic coupe ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = C300 coupe ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic coupe ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic coupe ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 coupe ['17-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S coupe ['17-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following WK in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 convertible ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic convertible ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = C300 convertible ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic convertible ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic convertible ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 convertible ['17-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S convertible ['17-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W206:'''<br> following AF in pos. 4-5: *4G = C300 sedan ['22-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = C300 4Matic sedan ['22-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG C43 4Matic+ sedan ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG C63 S E Performance 4Matic sedan ['24-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''W123/S123/C123:'''<br> following AA in pos. 4-5: *33 = 280E ['81] (2.7-liter DOHC, 12-valve M110.984 I6) *53 = 280CE ['81] (2.7-liter DOHC, 12-valve M110.984 I6) following AB in pos. 4-5: *23 = 240D ['81-'83] (2.4-liter OM616 diesel I4) *30 = 300D ['81] (3.0-liter OM617 diesel I5) *33 = 300D Turbodiesel ['82-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *50 = 300CD ['81] (3.0-liter OM617 diesel I5) *53 = 300CD Turbodiesel ['82-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *93 = 300TD Turbodiesel ['81-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) '''W124/S124/C124/A124:'''<br> following EA in pos. 4-5: *26 = 260E ['87-'89], 300E 2.6 ['90-'92] (2.6-liter M103 I6) *28 = 300E 2.8 ['93] (2.8-liter M104 I6) *30 = 300E ['86-'92] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *32 = 300E ['93], E320 sedan ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *34 = 400E ['92-'93], E420 sedan ['94-'95] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *36 = 500E ['92-'93], E500 sedan ['94] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *50 = 300CE ['88-'89] (3.0-liter SOHC, 12 valve M103 I6) *51 = 300CE ['90-'92] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *52 = 300CE coupe ['93], E320 coupe ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *66 = 300CE convertible ['93], E320 convertible ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *90 = 300TE ['88-'92] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *92 = 300TE ['93], E320 wagon ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) following EB in pos. 4-5: *28 = 300D 2.5 Turbo ['90-'93] (2.5-liter OM602 turbodiesel I5) *31 = E300 Diesel ['95] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 diesel I6) *33 = 300D Turbo ['87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *93 = 300TD Turbo ['87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) following ED in pos. 4-5: *30 = 300E 4Matic ['90-'93] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *90 = 300TE 4Matic ['90-'93] (3.0-liter M103 I6) '''W210/S210:'''<br> following JF in pos. 4-5: *20 = E300 Diesel ['96-'97] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 diesel I6) *25 = E300 Turbodiesel ['98-'99] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 turbodiesel I6) *55 = E320 ['96-'97] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *65 = E320 sedan ['98-'02] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *72 = E420 ['97] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *70 = E430 ['98-'02] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = E55 AMG ['99-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic sedan ['98-'02] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E430 4Matic ['00-'02] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) following JH in pos. 4-5: *65 = E320 wagon ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *82 = E320 4Matic wagon ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''W211/S211:'''<br> following UF in pos. 4-5: *26 = E320 CDI sedan ['05-'06] (3.2-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM648 turbodiesel I6) *22 = E320 Bluetec sedan ['07-'09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *65 = E320 sedan ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = E350 sedan ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *70 = E500 sedan ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = E550 sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = E55 AMG sedan ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = E63 AMG sedan ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic sedan ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E500 4Matic sedan ['04-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *87 = E350 4Matic sedan ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *90 = E550 4Matic sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) following UH in pos. 4-5: *65 = E320 wagon ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = E350 wagon ['06] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *76 = E55 AMG wagon ['05-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = E63 AMG wagon ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic wagon ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E500 4Matic wagon ['04-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *87 = E350 4Matic wagon ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) '''W212/S212:'''<br> following HF in pos. 4-5: *2E = E350 Bluetec sedan ['11-'13] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *0E = E250 Bluetec sedan ['14-'16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5G = E350 sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 sedan ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7H = E63 AMG sedan ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7E = E63 AMG sedan ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = E63 AMG S 4Matic sedan ['14-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8B = E300 4Matic sedan [Canada only: '12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 - detuned version) *8H = E350 4Matic sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = E350 4Matic sedan ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *9A = E550 4Matic sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *9B = E550 4Matic sedan ['12-'14, Canada only: '15-'16] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9C = E63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'15] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *9F = E400 Hybrid sedan ['13-'15] (Mild Hybrid: 3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *9H = E250 Bluetec 4Matic sedan ['14-'16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve turbodiesel I4) following HH in pos. 4-5: *8H = E350 4Matic wagon ['11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = E350 4Matic wagon ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic wagon [Canada only: '15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7E = E63 AMG wagon ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = E63 AMG S 4Matic wagon ['14-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''W213/S213:'''<br> following ZF in pos. 4-5: *4J = E300 sedan ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = E300 4Matic sedan ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = E350 sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = E350 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6G = E400 4Matic sedan ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic sedan ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5K = E450 4Matic sedan ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6E = AMG E43 4Matic sedan ['17-'18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic sedan ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG E63 S 4Matic sedan ['18-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following ZH in pos. 4-5: *6G = E400 4Matic wagon ['17-'18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic wagon ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6A = E450 4Matic All-Terrain wagon ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG E63 S 4Matic wagon ['18-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W214/S214:'''<br> following LF in pos. 4-5: *4G = E350 sedan ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = E350 4Matic sedan ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = E450 4Matic sedan ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6D = AMG E53 4Matic+ Hybrid sedan ['25-] (PHEV: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following LH in pos. 4-5: *6F = E450 4Matic All-Terrain wagon ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C219:'''<br> *75 = CLS500 sedan ['06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLS550 sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7C = CLS550 sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLS55 AMG sedan ['06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = CLS63 AMG sedan ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = CLS63 AMG sedan ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''C218:'''<br> *6F = CLS400 sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = CLS400 4Matic sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = CLS550 sedan ['12-'18] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = CLS63 AMG sedan ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = CLS63 AMG S 4Matic sedan ['14-'18] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *9B = CLS550 4Matic sedan ['12-'18] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9C = CLS63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''C257:'''<br> *5J = CLS450 sedan ['19-'21] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = CLS450 4Matic sedan ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG CLS53 4Matic sedan ['19-'21] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X290:'''<br> *5K = AMG GT43 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GT53 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8J = AMG GT63 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-'21, '23-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8K = AMG GT63 S 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT63 S E Performance 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''V295:'''<br> *2B = EQE350+ sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 288 hp) *1C = EQE350 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) *2C = EQE500 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 402 hp) *5D = AMG EQE 4Matic+ sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 617 hp) '''W126/V126//C126:'''<br> following CA in pos. 4-5: *24 = 300SE ['88-'91] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *25 = 300SEL ['88-'91] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *32 = 380SE ['84-'85] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *33 = 380SEL ['81-'83] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *35 = 420SEL ['86-'91] (4.2-liter M116 V8) *37 = 500SEL ['84-'85] (5.0-liter M117 V8) *39 = 560SEL ['86-'91] (5.5-liter M117 V8) *43 = 380SEC ['82-'83] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *44 = 500SEC ['84-'85] (5.0-liter M117 V8) *45 = 560SEC ['86-'91] (5.5-liter M117 V8) following CB in pos. 4-5: *20 = 300SD Turbodiesel ['81-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *25 = 300SDL Turbodiesel ['86-'87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *34 = 350SD Turbodiesel ['91] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *35 = 350SDL Turbodiesel ['90-'91] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) '''W140/V140/C140:'''<br> following GA in pos. 4-5: *32 = 300SE ['92-'93], S320 sedan SWB ['94-'99] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *33 = S320 sedan LWB ['95-'99] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *42 = 400SE ['92] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *43 = 400SEL ['93], S420 ['94-'99] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *51 = 500SEL ['92-'93], S500 sedan ['94-'99] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *57 = 600SEL ['92-'93], S600 sedan ['94-'99] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) *70 = 500SEC ['93], S500 coupe ['94-'97], CL500 ['98-'99] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *76 = 600SEC ['93], S600 coupe ['94-'97], CL600 ['98-'99] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) following GB in pos. 4-5: *34 = 300SD Turbodiesel ['92-'93], S350 Turbodiesel ['94-'95] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) '''V220:'''<br> following NG in pos. 4-5: *70 = S430 ['00-'06] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *73 = S55 AMG ['01-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = S55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *75 = S500 ['00-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *78 = S600 ['01-'02] (5.8-liter SOHC, 36-valve M137 V12) *76 = S600 ['03-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = S65 AMG ['06] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *83 = S430 4Matic ['03-'06] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *84 = S500 4Matic ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''W220:'''<br> following NF in pos. 4-5: *67 = S350 ['06] (3.7-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''C215:'''<br> *73 = CL55 AMG ['01-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CL55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *75 = CL500 ['00-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *78 = CL600 ['01-'02] (5.8-liter SOHC, 36-valve M137 V12) *76 = CL600 ['03-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = CL65 AMG ['05-'06] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) '''V221:'''<br> following NG in pos. 4-5: *71 = S550 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7B = S550 ['10-'11] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7D = S550 ['12-'13] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *76 = S600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *7G = S600 ['10-'13] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = S63 AMG ['08-09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7H = S63 AMG ['10] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7E = S63 AMG ['11-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *79 = S65 AMG ['07-09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = S65 AMG ['10-'13] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *8D = S350 Bluetec 4Matic ['12-'13] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *86 = S550 4Matic ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *8G = S550 4Matic ['10-'11] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *9E = S550 4Matic ['12-'13] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9F = S400 Hybrid ['10-'13] (Mild Hybrid: 3.5-liter M272 90° Atkinson-cycle V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C216:'''<br> *71 = CL550 ['07-'08] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *76 = CL600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *7G = CL600 ['10-'14] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = CL63 AMG ['08-'09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7H = CL63 AMG ['10] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7E = CL63 AMG ['11-'14] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *79 = CL65 AMG ['08-'09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = CL65 AMG ['10-'14] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *86 = CL550 4Matic ['09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *8G = CL550 4Matic ['10] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *9E = CL550 4Matic ['11-'14] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) '''V222:'''<br> following UG in pos. 4-5: *6D = S550 Plug-in Hybrid ['15], S550e ['16-'17] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7D = S560e ['19-'20] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6G = S450 sedan ['18-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6E = S450 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8C = S550 sedan ['14-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8D = S560 sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *8F = S550 4Matic sedan ['14-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = S560 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7G = S600 sedan ['15-'17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M277 V12) *7K = S65 AMG sedan ['15-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''X222:'''<br> following UX in pos. 4-5: *8F = Mercedes-Maybach S550 4Matic sedan ['17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = Mercedes-Maybach S560 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7G = Mercedes-Maybach S600 sedan ['16-'17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M277 V12) *8A = Mercedes-Maybach S650 sedan ['18-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''C217:'''<br> following XJ in pos. 4-5: *8F = S550 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = S560 4Matic coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = S65 AMG coupe ['15-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''A217:'''<br> following XK in pos. 4-5: *8C = S550 convertible ['17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8D = S560 convertible ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic convertible ['17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic convertible ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = S65 AMG convertible ['17-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) *7K = Mercedes-Maybach S650 convertible ['17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''V223:'''<br> following 6G in pos. 4-5: *6D = S500 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6K = S580e 4Matic sedan ['23-] (PHEV: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7G = S580 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8C = AMG S63 E Performance 4Matic+ ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''Z223:'''<br> following 6X in pos. 4-5: *7G = Mercedes-Maybach S580 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7K = Mercedes-Maybach S680 4Matic sedan ['22-] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''V297:'''<br> *2D = EQS450+ sedan ['22-'23] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 329 hp) *2D = EQS450+ sedan ['24-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 355 hp) *2E = EQS450 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 355 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic sedan ['22-'23] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 516 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic sedan ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 536 hp) *5F = AMG EQS 4Matic+ sedan ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 649 hp) '''W240:'''<br> following VF in pos. 4-5: *78 = Maybach 57 ['04-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *7J = Maybach 57 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *79 = Maybach 57S ['06-'09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7K = Maybach 57S ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 57S Zeppelin ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 57S ['11-'12] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) '''V240:'''<br> following VG in pos. 4-5: *78 = Maybach 62 ['04-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *7J = Maybach 62 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *79 = Maybach 62S ['07-'09], 62S Landaulet ('09) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7K = Maybach 62S ['10], 62S Landaulet ('10) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 62S Zeppelin ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 62S ['11-'12], 62S Landaulet ('11-'12) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) '''C208/A208:'''<br> following LJ in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['98-'02 coupe] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *70 = CLK430 ['99-'02 coupe] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CLK55 AMG ['01-'02 coupe] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) following LK in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['99-'03 convertible] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *70 = CLK430 ['00-'03 convertible] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CLK55 AMG ['02 convertible] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''C209/A209:'''<br> following TJ in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['03-'05 coupe] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = CLK350 ['06-'09 coupe] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = CLK500 ['03-'06 coupe] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLK550 ['07-'09 coupe] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLK55 AMG ['03-'05 coupe] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = CLK63 AMG Black Series ['08 coupe] (6.2-liter M156 V8) following TK in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['04-'05 convertible] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = CLK350 ['06-'09 convertible] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = CLK500 ['04-'06 convertible] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLK550 ['07-'09 convertible] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLK55 AMG ['04-'06 convertible] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = CLK63 AMG ['07-'08 convertible] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''C207/A207:'''<br> following KJ in pos. 4-5: *5G = E350 coupe ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 coupe ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 coupe ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 coupe ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7D = E550 coupe ['12-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8J = E350 4Matic coupe ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) following KK in pos. 4-5: *5G = E350 convertible ['11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 convertible ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 convertible ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 convertible ['11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7D = E550 convertible ['12-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) '''C238/A238:'''<br> following 1J in pos. 4-5: *6F = E400 coupe ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = E400 4Matic coupe ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E450 coupe ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic coupe ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5J = E450 coupe ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = E450 4Matic coupe ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic coupe ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following 1K in pos. 4-5: *6F = E400 convertible ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = E400 4Matic convertible ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E450 convertible ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic convertible ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5J = E450 convertible ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = E450 4Matic convertible ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic convertible ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C236/A236:'''<br> following MJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = CLE300 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = CLE450 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6C = AMG CLE53 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following MK in pos. 4-5: *4H = CLE300 4Matic convertible ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = CLE450 4Matic convertible ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6C = AMG CLE53 4Matic convertible ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''R170:'''<br> following KK in pos. 4-5: *47 = SLK230 Kompressor ['98-'00] (2.3-liter M111.973 supercharged I4) *49 = SLK230 Kompressor ['01-'04] (2.3-liter M111.983 supercharged I4) *65 = SLK320 ['01-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *66 = SLK32 AMG ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 supercharged 90° V6) '''R171:'''<br> following WK in pos. 4-5: *54 = SLK280 ['06-'08], SLK300 ['09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *5E = SLK300 ['10-'11] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = SLK350 ['05-'08] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *58 = SLK350 ['09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5J = SLK350 ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *73 = SLK55 AMG ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *7D = SLK55 AMG ['10] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''R172:'''<br> following PK in pos. 4-5: *4H = SLK250 ['12-'15] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *3J = SLK300 ['16], SLC300 ['17-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *5H = SLK350 ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = SLC43 AMG ['17-'20] (3.0-liter twin-turbocharged M276 60° GDI V6) *7F = SLK55 AMG ['12-'16] (5.5-liter M152 GDI V8) '''R107:'''<br> following BA in pos. 4-5: *45 = 380SL ['81-'85] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *48 = 560SL ['86-'89] (5.5-liter M117 V8) '''C107:'''<br> following BA in pos. 4-5: *25 = 380SLC ['81] (3.8-liter M116 V8) '''R129:'''<br> following FA in pos. 4-5: *61 = 300SL ['90-'93] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *63 = SL320 ['94-'97] (3.2-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *66 = 500SL ['90-'92] (5.0-liter DOHC, 32-valve M119 V8) *67 = 500SL ['93], SL500 ['94-'98] (5.0-liter DOHC, 32-valve M119 V8) *68 = SL500 ['99-'02] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *76 = 600SL ['93], SL600 ['94-'02] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) '''R230:'''<br> following SK in pos. 4-5: *75 = SL500 ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *71 = SL550 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7B = SL550 ['11-'12] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *74 = SL55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *72 = SL55 AMG ['07-'08] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *70 = SL63 AMG ['09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7A = SL63 AMG ['11-'12] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *76 = SL600 ['04-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = SL600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = SL65 AMG ['05-'09], SL65 AMG Black Series ['09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = SL65 AMG ['11] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) '''R231:'''<br> following JK in pos. 4-5: *6F = SL400 ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = SL450 ['17-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = SL550 ['13-'20] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = SL63 AMG ['13-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7K = SL65 AMG ['13-'18] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''R232:'''<br> following VK in pos. 4-5: *5A = AMG SL43 ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 2 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG SL55 4Matic+ ['22-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8B = AMG SL63 4Matic+ ['22-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8C = AMG SL63 S E Performance 4Matic+ ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C199/R199:'''<br> *76 = SLR McLaren ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M155 V8) '''C197/R197:'''<br> following RJ in pos. 4-5: *7H = SLS AMG coupe ['11-'12] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7J = SLS AMG GT coupe ['13-'15] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7H = SLS AMG Black Series coupe ['14] (6.2-liter M159 V8) following RK in pos. 4-5: *7H = SLS AMG roadster ['12] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7J = SLS AMG GT roadster ['13-'15] (6.2-liter M159 V8) '''C190:'''<br> following YJ in pos. 4-5: *7H = AMG GT 2-d coupe (base model) ['17-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT 2-d coupe (base model) ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *AJ = AMG GT 2-d coupe S ['16] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7J = AMG GT 2-d coupe S ['16-'19] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8A = AMG GT 2-d coupe C ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d coupe R ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d coupe R Pro ['20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8B = AMG GT 2-d coupe Black Series ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 LS2 GDI flat-plane crank V8) '''R190:'''<br> following YK in pos. 4-5: *7H = AMG GT roadster (base model) ['17-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT roadster (base model) ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8A = AMG GT roadster C ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d roadster R ['20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) '''C192:'''<br> following RJ in pos. 4-5: *4C = AMG GT43 coupe ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 2 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GT55 4Matic+ coupe ['24-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7J = AMG GT63 4Matic+ coupe ['24-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT63 S E Performance 4Matic+ coupe ['25-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8J = AMG GT63 Pro 4Matic+ coupe ['25-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''X156:'''<br> *4E = GLA250 ['15-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *4G = GLA250 4Matic ['15-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *5C = GLA45 AMG 4Matic ['15-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI AMG M133 I4) '''H247:'''<br> *4G = GLA250 ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = GLA250 ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLA250 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = GLA250 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG GLA35 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG GLA35 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5D = AMG GLA45 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) '''X247:'''<br> *4G = GLB250 ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = GLB250 ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLB250 4Matic ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = GLB250 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG GLB35 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG GLB35 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X243:'''<br> *0C = EQB250+ ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 front motor, Fwd, 188 hp) *0K = EQB300 4Matic ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 225 hp) *1D = EQB350 4Matic ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) '''X204:'''<br> *0E = GLK250 Bluetec 4Matic ['13-'15] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5G = GLK350 2wd ['10-'12] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = GLK350 2wd ['13-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *8H = GLK350 4Matic ['10-'12] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = GLK350 4Matic ['13-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) '''X253:'''<br> following 0G in pos. 4-5: *4J = GLC300 2wd ['16-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = GLC300 4Matic ['16-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = GLC300 2wd ['20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = GLC300 4Matic ['20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *5E = GLC350e 4Matic ['18-'19] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + 114 hp electric motor, 8.7 kWh lithium-ion battery) *5D = GLC350e 4Matic ['20] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + 121 hp electric motor, 13.5 kWh lithium-ion battery) *6E = AMG GLC43 4Matic ['17-'22] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8J = AMG GLC63 4Matic ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''C253:'''<br> following 0J in pos. 4-5: *4K = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8E = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG GLC43 4Matic Coupe ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8J = AMG GLC63 4Matic Coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8K = AMG GLC63 S 4Matic Coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''X254:'''<br> following KM in pos. 4-5: *4G = GLC300 2wd ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLC300 4Matic ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5G = GLC350e 4Matic ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG GLC43 4Matic ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GLC63 S E Performance 4Matic ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''C254:'''<br> following KJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG GLC43 4Matic Coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GLC63 S E Performance 4Matic Coupe ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''W163:'''<br> *54 = ML320 ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *57 = ML350 ['03-'05] (3.7-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *72 = ML430 ['99-'01] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = ML55 AMG ['00-'03] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *75 = ML500 ['02-'05] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''W164:'''<br> *22 = ML320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = ML320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = ML350 Bluetec ['10-'11] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *56 = ML350 2wd ['09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5G = ML350 2wd ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *86 = ML350 4Matic ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8G = ML350 4Matic ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = ML500 ['06-'07] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = ML550 ['08-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7C = ML550 ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *77 = ML63 AMG ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = ML63 AMG ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *9F = ML450 Hybrid 4Matic ['10-'11] (2-Mode Hybrid: 3.5-liter Atkinson-cycle M272 90° V6 + 2 electric motors, Nickel–metal hydride battery) '''W166:'''<br> following DA in pos. 4-5: *2E = ML350 Bluetec ['12-'14 & '15 in Canada], GLE350d [Canada only: '16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *0E = ML250 Bluetec ['15], GLE300d ['16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5J = ML350 2wd ['13-'15], GLE350 2wd ['16-'18] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *5H = ML350 4Matic ['12-'15], GLE350 4Matic ['16-'18] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *5G = ML400 4Matic ['15], GLE400 4Matic ['16-'17 & '19, Canada only: '18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6D = GLE550e 4Matic ['16-'18] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6E = GLE450 AMG Sport 4Matic [Canada only: '16], AMG GLE43 4Matic ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = ML550 ['12-'14 & '15 in Canada], GLE550 [Canada only: '16-'19] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = ML63 AMG ['12-'15], AMG GLE63 ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = AMG GLE63 S ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''C292:'''<br> following ED in pos. 4-5: *2E = GLE350d Coupe [Canada only: '16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *6E = GLE450 AMG Sport 4Matic Coupe ['16], AMG GLE43 4Matic Coupe ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7F = AMG GLE63 S Coupe ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''W167:'''<br> following FB in pos. 4-5: *4J = GLE350 2wd ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *4K = GLE350 4Matic ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *4E = GLE350 2wd ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4F = GLE350 4Matic ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4G = GLE450e 4Matic ['24-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = GLE450 ['20-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GLE53 ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8G = GLE580 ['20-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8F = GLE580 ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLE63 S ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C167:'''<br> following FD in pos. 4-5: *5K = GLE450 Coupe [Canada only: '22-'24, US & Canada: '25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GLE53 Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLE63 S Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X294:'''<br> *2B = EQE350+ SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 288 hp) *1C = EQE350 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) *2C = EQE500 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 402 hp) *5D = AMG EQE 4Matic+ SUV ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 617 hp) '''V251:'''<br> *22 = R320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = R320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = R350 Bluetec ['10-'12 & '13 in Canada] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *56 = R350 2wd ['08] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *65 = R350 4Matic ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *6F = R350 4Matic ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = R350 4Matic ['12 & '13 in Canada] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *75 = R500 ['06-'07] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = R63 AMG ['07] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''X164:'''<br> *22 = GL320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = GL320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = GL350 Bluetec ['10-'12] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *71 = GL450 ['07-'09] (4.7-liter M273 V8) *7B = GL450 ['10-'12] (4.7-liter M273 V8) *86 = GL550 ['08-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *8G = GL550 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter M273 V8) '''X166:'''<br> *2E = GL350 Bluetec ['13-'16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *7C = GL450 ['13-'14] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8 - detuned version) *6E = GL450 ['15-'16], GLS450 ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = GL550 ['13-'16], GLS550 ['17-'19] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = GL63 AMG ['13-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = AMG GLS63 ['17-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''X167:'''<br> *5K = GLS450 ['20-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8G = GLS580 ['20-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8F = GLS580 ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = Mercedes-Maybach GLS600 ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLS63 4MATIC+ ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X296:'''<br> *2D = EQS450+ SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 355 hp) *2E = EQS450 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 355 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 536 hp) '''Z296:'''<br> *5F = Mercedes-Maybach EQS680 4Matic SUV ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 649 hp) '''W463 (1st gen.):'''<br> *49 = G500 ['02-'08] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *37 = G550 ['09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *3H = G550 ['10-'15] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *3K = G550 ['16-'18] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *5F = G550 4x4² ['17-'18] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *46 = G55 AMG ['03-'04] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *71 = G55 AMG ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *7B = G55 AMG ['10-'11] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *7D = G63 AMG ['13-'18] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = G65 AMG ['16-'18] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''W463 (2nd gen.):'''<br> *6B = G550 ['19-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7H = AMG G63 ['19-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8A = AMG G63 4x4² ['22-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W465:'''<br> following WH in pos. 4-5: *1A = G550 ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5A = AMG G63 ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''N465:'''<br> following WM in pos. 4-5: *0A = G580 with EQ Technology ['25-] (battery-electric, 4 motors, 4wd, 579 hp) ===Position 8=== Passenger cars - Restraint system: * A 3-point seat belts for outboard passengers, center rear lap belt * B seat belt + emergency pretensioners for front passenger seat & driver-side front airbag * C seat belt + emergency pretensioners for both front seats * D seat belt + emergency pretensioners for both front seats, driver-side front air bag and knee bolster * E seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear lap belt (SL-Class does not have rear seats) * F seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt (SL-Class & SLK-Class do not have rear seats) ['96-'98 210-series E-class sedan, '98-'99 210-series E-class wagon, '96- R129 SL-Class, '98- R170 SLK-Class] * G seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear lap belt (CL-Class & CLK-Class do not have center rear seat position) ['97-'99 140-series S-class, '98-'00 202-series C-Class, '98-'02 208-series CLK-Class coupe, '99-'03 208-series CLK-Class convertible] * H seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, front to rear side curtain airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt ['99 210-series E-Class sedan] * J seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, front to rear side curtain airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt ['00- 210-series E-Class, '00- 220-series S-Class, '00- 215-series CL-Class, '01- 203-series C-Class, '03- 209-series CLK-Class coupe] SUVs - GVWR ('98-'09): * E = Class E: 6001-7000 lbs. ('98-'09 M-Class, '02-'09 G-Class, '06-'09 R-Class, '07-'09 GL-Class) SUVs - Restraint system & GVWR ('10-): ===Position 9, Check Digit=== [[Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Check digit |Check digit]] ===Position 10, Model Year: === [[Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Model year|Model year]] ===Position 11, Production Plant:=== * A-D: Sindelfingen, Germany * E: Sindelfingen, Germany (through 2000) * E: Juiz de Fora, Minas Gerais, Brazil (from 2001) * E: Mishawaka, Indiana, US (AM General plant) ('16-'17 R-Class for China) * F-H: Bremen, Germany * J, K: Rastatt, Germany * L: Pekan, Pahang, Malaysia (HICOM Automotive Manufacturers plant) * M: Woking, England, UK (SLR McLaren) (McLaren Automotive plant) * N, P: Kecskemet, Hungary * R, S: East London, South Africa * T: Osnabrück, Germany (Karmann plant) * U: Sindelfingen, Germany * V: Uusikaupunki, Finland (Valmet Automotive plant) * W: Aguascalientes, Mexico (COMPAS plant) * X: Graz, Austria (Magna Steyr plant) * 1: Pune, Maharashtra, India For 4JG and 55S: * A, B, U: Vance, Alabama, US ===Positions 12–17, Serial Number=== ==Commercial Vehicles== Position 1-3 * WDB - Daimler-Benz AG, DaimlerChrysler AG, Daimler AG * VSA - Mercedes-Benz Espana SA (1st gen. Vito/V-Class - W638) * WDF - DaimlerChrysler AG, Daimler AG (Citan, Vito/V-Class & X-Class) * W1T - Daimler AG (Daimler Truck Holding AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz truck) * W1V - Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz van) Position 4–6, Model *414 - Vaneo *415 - Mark 1 Citan *420 - Mark 2 Citan *447 - Mark 3 Vito *470 - X-Class *638 - Mark 1 Vito *639 - Mark 2 Vito *670 - Vario *901 - Sprinter T1N *902 - Sprinter T1N *903 - Sprinter T1N *904 - Sprinter T1N *905 - Sprinter T1N *906 - Sprinter NCV3 *907 - Sprinter VS30 (RWD) *910 - Sprinter VS30 (FWD) *930 - Actros Rigids *933 - Actros MP2 concrete mixer *934 - Actros MP2 tractor *944 - Axor Tractor *950 - Axor Rigids / Actros Mk1 Rigids *952 - Axor *954 - Actros Mk1 Tractor *956 - Econic *963 - NEW ACTROS MP4 (Common-Rail engine) / Antos *964 - NEW ACTROS MP4 (Common-Rail engine) / Arocs *967 - Atego *970 - Atego *972 - Atego *976 - Atego Fire Position 7–9, Weight and Length code Position 10, Drive indicator *1 Left hand drive *2 Right hand drive Position 11, Plant code * E: Buenos Aires, Argentina * G: Barcelona, Spain (Nissan plant) (X-Class pickup) * N: Ludwigsfelde, Germany * P, R, S: Dusseldorf, Germany * T: Ladson, South Carolina, US * U: Maubeuge, France (Renault plant) (Citan, T-Class, EQT) * V: Worth, Germany * 3: Vitoria, Spain * 4: Vitoria, Spain (When Position 1-3 is W1V) * 4: Worth, Germany * 5: Dusseldorf, Germany * 9: Ludwigsfelde, Germany Position 12–17, Serial Number Position 18, Check Digit ==External links== Online [http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz Vito decoder] WDB1260251A336981 {{BookCat}} ekmi3khk5dd7nygr7y7iqf2hubgltxh 4520872 4520870 2025-07-01T21:37:24Z JustTheFacts33 3434282 /* Positions 6–7, Model within the series: */ 4520872 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Warning}}{{clear}} Mercedes-Benz uses the following VIN formats: (Note) This chart is not applicable to Mercedes-Benz products made for markets other than North America. European/World market cars use a different system for encoding VIN numbers. ==1960-1980== Position 1-3 - chassis code (e.g. 107, 116, 123, etc.) Position 4-6 - model type (e.g. 024, 032, 033, 036, 044, 045, etc.) Position 7 - 1=LH Drive (made in Germany), 2=RH Drive (made in Germany), 5=LH Drive CKD, 6=RH Drive CKD (Complete Knocked Down, assembled outside Germany)1 Position 8 - 0=Manual transmission, 1=Hydraulic clutch, 2= Automatic transmission 2 (Alphabetics indicate Plant of Manufacture i.e.: A = Sindelfingen) Position 9-14 - Construction serial number 10704312006193 ==Passenger Vehicles 1981-== ===Positions 1–3, World Manufacturer Identifier:=== * WDB Daimler-Benz AG (DaimlerChrysler after 1998) (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz or Maybach passenger car) * WDC DaimlerChrysler AG (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * WDD DaimlerChrysler AG (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) * W1K Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) * W1N Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * 4JG Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * 55S Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) ===Position 4, Model or Series:=== * A W123 300-Class * B R107 SL-Class * B C107 SLC-Class * C W126/C126 S-Class * D W201 190-Class * E W124 300-Class/E-Class * F R129 SL-Class * G W140/C140 S-Class, C140 CL-Class * H W202 C-Class * J W210 E-Class * K R170 SLK-Class * L C208/A208 CLK-Class * N W220 S-Class * P C215 CL-Class * R W203 C-Class * S R230 SL-Class * T C209/A209 CLK-Class * U W211 E-Class * W R171 SLK-Class *---------------------------------- * A C199/R199/Z199 SLR McLaren * D C219 CLS-Class * E C216 CL-Class * F W245 B-Class (Canada only) * G W204 C-Class * H W212/S212 E-Class sedan/wagon * J R231 SL-Class * K C207/A207 E-Class coupe/convertible * L C218 CLS-Class * M W246 B-Class (Canada only) * N W221 S-Class * P R172 SLK-Class/SLC-Class * R C197/R197 SLS AMG * S C117 CLA-Class * U W222 S-Class sedan * V W240 Maybach 57/62 * V N242 B-Class Electric * W W205 C-Class * X C217/A217 S-Class coupe/convertible * Y C190/R190 AMG GT coupe/roadster * Z W213/S213/X213 E-Class sedan/wagon/All-Terrain wagon * 1 C238/A238 E-Class coupe/convertible * 2 C257 CLS-Class * 3 V177 A-Class sedan * 3 W177 A-Class hatchback (Canada only) * 5 C118 CLA-Class * 6 W223 S-Class sedan * 7 X290 AMG GT 4-door coupe *---------------------------------- * A W206 C-Class * C V297 EQS-Class sedan * E V295 EQE-Class sedan * L W214/X214 E-Class sedan/All-Terrain wagon * M C236/A236 CLE-Class coupe/convertible * R C192 AMG GT coupe * V R232 SL-Class *---------------------------------- * A W163 M-Class * B W164 M-Class * B X164 GL-Class * C W251 R-Class * D W166 M-Class/GLE-Class * D X166 GL-Class/GLS-Class * D X296 EQS-Class SUV * E C292 GLE-Class Coupe * F W167/C167 GLE-Class * F X167 GLS-Class * G X204 GLK-Class * 0 X253/C253 GLC-Class * G X294 EQE-Class SUV * K X254/C254 GLC-Class * T X156 GLA-Class * Y W463 G-Class * W W465 G-Class * 4 H247 GLA-Class * 4 X247 GLB-Class * 9 X243 EQB-Class ===Position 5, Body Style:=== Passenger Cars: * B = Long Body * F = Sedan ('96+ E-Class, '01+ C-Class, '06 S-Class [S350], Maybach 57) * F = 5-door hatchback (Canada only: '19-'22 A-Class) * G = Sedan Long Wheelbase ('00+ S-Class, Maybach 62) * G = Sedan ('19-'22 A-Class sedan) * H = Wagon ('98-'09, '11- E-Class wagon, '02-'05 C-Class wagon, Canada only: '19-'21 C-Class wagon) * H = "Sedan" [5-door hatchback/compact minivan] ('06-'11, '13-'19 B-Class [gas engine] - Canada only) * J = 2-door Coupe ('98-'09 CLK-Class Coupe, '12-'15, '17-'23 C-Class coupe, '10-'23 E-Class coupe, '24- CLE-Class coupe, '00-'14 CL-Class, '15-'21 S-Class coupe, '05-'07 SLR McLaren coupe, '11-'15 SLS AMG coupe, '16-'21, '24- AMG GT coupe) * J = 4-door Coupe ('06-'23 CLS-Class, '14- CLA-Class) * K = Cabriolet/Roadster ('99-'09 CLK-Class Cabriolet, '17-'23 C-Class Cabriolet, '11-'23 E-Class Cabriolet, '24- CLE-Class Cabriolet, '17-'21 S-Class Cabriolet, '98-'16 SLK-Class, '17-'20 SLC-Class, '03+ SL-Class, '08-'09 SLR McLaren roadster, '12-'15 SLS AMG roadster, '18-'21 AMG GT roadster) * N = "Coupe" [3-door hatchback] ('02-'05 C-Class Sport Coupe) * P = "Sedan" [5-door hatchback/compact minivan] (B-Class Electric) * X = 4-door Coupe [5-door hatchback] ('19- AMG GT 4-door Coupe) SUVs: * A = 4-door MPV ('12-'15 M-Class, '16-'19 GLE-Class wagon) * B = 4-door MPV ('98-'11 M-Class) * B = 4-door MPV ('20-' GLE-Class wagon) * B = 4-door MPV ('06-'13 R-Class) * C = 4-door MPV ('10-'24 G-Class) * D = 4-door MPV ('16-'19, '21- GLE-Class Coupe) * F = 4-door MPV ('07-'16 GL-Class, '17- GLS-Class) * G = 4-door MPV ('10-'15 GLK-Class, '16-'22 GLC-Class wagon) * G = 4-door MPV ('15-'20 GLA-Class) * H = 4-door MPV ('25- G550, G63 AMG) * J = 4-door MPV ('17- GLC-Class Coupe) * M = 4-door MPV ('20- GLB-Class, '22- EQB-Class) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- GLC-Class wagon) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- EQE-Class SUV) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- EQS-Class SUV) * M = 4-door MPV ('25- G580 EQ [EV]) * N = 4-door MPV ('21- GLA-Class) * R = 4-door MPV ('02-'09 G-Class) On older models, this indicated the engine type, through much of the 1990s and into the 2000's for some models: * A = Gasoline (190 Class '84-'93, C-Class '94-'00, 300 Class '81, '86-'93, E-Class '94-'95, S-Class '81-'99, CL-Class '98-'99, SL-Class '81-'02, SLC '81) * B = Diesel (190 Class '84-'89, 300 Class '81-'85, '87, '90-'93, E-Class '95, S-Class '81-'87, '90-'95) * D = 4Matic Gasoline ('90-'93 300E 4Matic, 300TE 4Matic) * M = AMG Gasoline ('95-'97 C36 AMG only) ===Positions 6–7, Model within the series:=== '''V177:'''<br> following 3G in pos. 4-5: *4E = A220 sedan ['19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4F = A220 4Matic sedan ['19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG A35 4Matic sedan ['20-'21 & in Canada: '22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) '''W177:'''<br> following 3F in pos. 4-5: *4G = A250 hatchback [Canada only: '19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = A250 4Matic hatchback [Canada only: '19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG A35 4Matic hatchback [Canada only: '20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) '''W245:'''<br> following FH in pos. 4-5: *33 = B200 [Canada only: '06-'09] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve M266.980 I4 *3D = B200 [Canada only: '10-'11] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve M266.980 I4 *34 = B200 Turbo [Canada only: '06-'09] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve turbo M266.980 I4 *3E = B200 Turbo [Canada only: '10-'11] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve turbo M266.980 I4 *8G = B-Class F-Cell (hydrogen fuel cell) '''W246:'''<br> following MH in pos. 4-5: *4E = B250 [Canada only: '13-'19] 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve turbo M270 I4 *4G = B250 4Matic [Canada only: '15-'19] 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve turbo M270 I4 '''N242:'''<br> following VP in pos. 4-5: *9A = B-Class Electric Drive ['14-'15], B250e ['16-'17] (Tesla front electric motor, Lithium-ion battery pack, fwd, 177 hp) '''C117:'''<br> following SJ in pos. 4-5: *4E = CLA250 sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *4G = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *5C = CLA45 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI AMG M133 I4) '''C118:'''<br> following 5J in pos. 4-5: *4G = CLA250 sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = CLA250 sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG CLA35 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG CLA35 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5D = AMG CLA45 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) *5E = AMG CLA45 S 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) '''W201:'''<br> following DA in pos. 4-5: *24 = 190E 2.3 ['84-'86] (2.3-liter SOHC, 8 valve M102 I4) *28 = 190E 2.3 ['87-'88, '91-'93] (2.3-liter SOHC, 8 valve M102 I4) *29 = 190E 2.6 ['87-'93] (2.6-liter M103 I6) *34 = 190E 2.3-16 ['86-'87] (2.3-liter DOHC, 16 valve M102 I4) following DB in pos. 4-5: *22 = 190D 2.2 ['84-'85] (2.2-liter OM601 diesel I4) *26 = 190D 2.5 ['86-'89] (2.5-liter OM602 diesel I5) *28 = 190D 2.5 Turbo ['87] (2.5-liter OM602 turbodiesel I5) '''W202:'''<br> following HA in pos. 4-5: *22 = C220 ['94-'96] (2.2-liter M111 I4) *23 = C230 ['97-'98] (2.3-liter M111 I4) *24 = C230 Kompressor ['99-'00] (2.3-liter supercharged M111 I4) *28 = C280 ['94-'97] (2.8-liter M104 I6) *29 = C280 ['98-'00] (2.8-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *33 = C43 AMG ['98-'00] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113.944 V8) following HM in pos. 4-5: *36 = C36 AMG ['95-'97] (3.6-liter M104 AMG I6) '''W203/S203/CL203:'''<br> following RF in pos. 4-5: *40 = C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan ['03-'05] (1.8-liter supercharged M271 I4) *52 = C230 Sport Sedan ['06-'07] (2.5-liter M272 90° V6) *54 = C280 sedan ['06-'07] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = C350 sedan ['06-'07] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *61 = C240 sedan ['01-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *64 = C320 sedan ['01-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *65 = C32 AMG sedan ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve supercharged M112 90° V6) *76 = C55 AMG ['05-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *81 = C240 4Matic sedan ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *84 = C320 4Matic sedan ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *87 = C350 4Matic sedan ['06-'07] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *92 = C280 4Matic sedan ['06-'07] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) following RH in pos. 4-5: *61 = C240 wagon ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *64 = C320 wagon ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *81 = C240 4Matic wagon ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *84 = C320 4Matic wagon ['03-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) following RN in pos. 4-5: *47 = C230 Kompressor Sport Coupe ['02] (2.3-liter supercharged M111 I4) *40 = C230 Kompressor Sport Coupe ['03-'05] (1.8-liter supercharged M271 I4) *64 = C320 Sport Coupe ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''W204/C204:'''<br> following GF in pos. 4-5: *4H = C250 sedan ['12-'14] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *54 = C300 sedan ['08-'09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *5E = C300 sedan ['10-'11] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = C350 sedan ['08-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5G = C350 sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = C350 sedan ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *77 = C63 AMG sedan ['08-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = C63 AMG sedan ['10-'14], C63 AMG Edition 507 ['14] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *81 = C300 4Matic sedan ['08-'09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *8B = C300 4Matic sedan ['10-'12] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *8A = C300 4Matic sedan ['13-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 - detuned version) following GJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = C250 coupe ['12-'15] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *5H = C350 coupe ['12-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *7H = C63 AMG coupe ['12-'15], C63 AMG Black Series coupe ['12-'13], C63 AMG Edition 507 ['14-'15] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *8J = C350 4Matic coupe ['12-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) '''W205/S205/C205/A205:'''<br> following WF in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 sedan ['15-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic sedan ['15-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4H = C350e sedan ['16-'18] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8D = C300 sedan ['19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic sedan ['19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6G = C400 4Matic sedan ['15] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6E = C450 AMG Sport 4Matic sedan ['16], AMG C43 4Matic sedan ['17-'21] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 sedan ['15-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S sedan ['15-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following WH in pos. 4-5: *4K = C300 4Matic wagon [Canada: '18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic wagon [Canada: '19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic wagon [Canada: '19-'21] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) following WJ in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 coupe ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic coupe ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = C300 coupe ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic coupe ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic coupe ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 coupe ['17-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S coupe ['17-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following WK in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 convertible ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic convertible ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = C300 convertible ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic convertible ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic convertible ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 convertible ['17-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S convertible ['17-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W206:'''<br> following AF in pos. 4-5: *4G = C300 sedan ['22-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = C300 4Matic sedan ['22-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG C43 4Matic+ sedan ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG C63 S E Performance 4Matic sedan ['24-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''W123/S123/C123:'''<br> following AA in pos. 4-5: *33 = 280E ['81] (2.7-liter DOHC, 12-valve M110.984 I6) *53 = 280CE ['81] (2.7-liter DOHC, 12-valve M110.984 I6) following AB in pos. 4-5: *23 = 240D ['81-'83] (2.4-liter OM616 diesel I4) *30 = 300D ['81] (3.0-liter OM617 diesel I5) *33 = 300D Turbodiesel ['82-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *50 = 300CD ['81] (3.0-liter OM617 diesel I5) *53 = 300CD Turbodiesel ['82-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *93 = 300TD Turbodiesel ['81-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) '''W124/S124/C124/A124:'''<br> following EA in pos. 4-5: *26 = 260E ['87-'89], 300E 2.6 ['90-'92] (2.6-liter M103 I6) *28 = 300E 2.8 ['93] (2.8-liter M104 I6) *30 = 300E ['86-'92] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *32 = 300E ['93], E320 sedan ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *34 = 400E ['92-'93], E420 sedan ['94-'95] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *36 = 500E ['92-'93], E500 sedan ['94] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *50 = 300CE ['88-'89] (3.0-liter SOHC, 12 valve M103 I6) *51 = 300CE ['90-'92] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *52 = 300CE coupe ['93], E320 coupe ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *66 = 300CE convertible ['93], E320 convertible ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *90 = 300TE ['88-'92] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *92 = 300TE ['93], E320 wagon ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) following EB in pos. 4-5: *28 = 300D 2.5 Turbo ['90-'93] (2.5-liter OM602 turbodiesel I5) *31 = E300 Diesel ['95] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 diesel I6) *33 = 300D Turbo ['87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *93 = 300TD Turbo ['87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) following ED in pos. 4-5: *30 = 300E 4Matic ['90-'93] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *90 = 300TE 4Matic ['90-'93] (3.0-liter M103 I6) '''W210/S210:'''<br> following JF in pos. 4-5: *20 = E300 Diesel ['96-'97] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 diesel I6) *25 = E300 Turbodiesel ['98-'99] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 turbodiesel I6) *55 = E320 ['96-'97] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *65 = E320 sedan ['98-'02] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *72 = E420 ['97] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *70 = E430 ['98-'02] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = E55 AMG ['99-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic sedan ['98-'02] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E430 4Matic ['00-'02] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) following JH in pos. 4-5: *65 = E320 wagon ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *82 = E320 4Matic wagon ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''W211/S211:'''<br> following UF in pos. 4-5: *26 = E320 CDI sedan ['05-'06] (3.2-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM648 turbodiesel I6) *22 = E320 Bluetec sedan ['07-'09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *65 = E320 sedan ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = E350 sedan ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *70 = E500 sedan ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = E550 sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = E55 AMG sedan ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = E63 AMG sedan ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic sedan ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E500 4Matic sedan ['04-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *87 = E350 4Matic sedan ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *90 = E550 4Matic sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) following UH in pos. 4-5: *65 = E320 wagon ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = E350 wagon ['06] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *76 = E55 AMG wagon ['05-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = E63 AMG wagon ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic wagon ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E500 4Matic wagon ['04-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *87 = E350 4Matic wagon ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) '''W212/S212:'''<br> following HF in pos. 4-5: *2E = E350 Bluetec sedan ['11-'13] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *0E = E250 Bluetec sedan ['14-'16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5G = E350 sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 sedan ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7H = E63 AMG sedan ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7E = E63 AMG sedan ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = E63 AMG S 4Matic sedan ['14-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8B = E300 4Matic sedan [Canada only: '12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 - detuned version) *8H = E350 4Matic sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = E350 4Matic sedan ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *9A = E550 4Matic sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *9B = E550 4Matic sedan ['12-'14, Canada only: '15-'16] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9C = E63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'15] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *9F = E400 Hybrid sedan ['13-'15] (Mild Hybrid: 3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *9H = E250 Bluetec 4Matic sedan ['14-'16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve turbodiesel I4) following HH in pos. 4-5: *8H = E350 4Matic wagon ['11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = E350 4Matic wagon ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic wagon [Canada only: '15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7E = E63 AMG wagon ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = E63 AMG S 4Matic wagon ['14-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''W213/S213:'''<br> following ZF in pos. 4-5: *4J = E300 sedan ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = E300 4Matic sedan ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = E350 sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = E350 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6G = E400 4Matic sedan ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic sedan ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5K = E450 4Matic sedan ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6E = AMG E43 4Matic sedan ['17-'18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic sedan ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG E63 S 4Matic sedan ['18-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following ZH in pos. 4-5: *6G = E400 4Matic wagon ['17-'18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic wagon ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6A = E450 4Matic All-Terrain wagon ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG E63 S 4Matic wagon ['18-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W214/S214:'''<br> following LF in pos. 4-5: *4G = E350 sedan ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = E350 4Matic sedan ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = E450 4Matic sedan ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6D = AMG E53 4Matic+ Hybrid sedan ['25-] (PHEV: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following LH in pos. 4-5: *6F = E450 4Matic All-Terrain wagon ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C219:'''<br> following DJ in pos. 4-5: *75 = CLS500 sedan ['06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLS550 sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7C = CLS550 sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLS55 AMG sedan ['06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = CLS63 AMG sedan ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = CLS63 AMG sedan ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''C218:'''<br> following LJ in pos. 4-5: *6F = CLS400 sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = CLS400 4Matic sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = CLS550 sedan ['12-'18] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = CLS63 AMG sedan ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = CLS63 AMG S 4Matic sedan ['14-'18] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *9B = CLS550 4Matic sedan ['12-'18] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9C = CLS63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''C257:'''<br> following 2J in pos. 4-5: *5J = CLS450 sedan ['19-'21] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = CLS450 4Matic sedan ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG CLS53 4Matic sedan ['19-'21] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X290:'''<br> following 7X in pos. 4-5: *5K = AMG GT43 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GT53 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8J = AMG GT63 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-'21, '23-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8K = AMG GT63 S 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT63 S E Performance 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''V295:'''<br> following EG in pos. 4-5: *2B = EQE350+ sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 288 hp) *1C = EQE350 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) *2C = EQE500 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 402 hp) *5D = AMG EQE 4Matic+ sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 617 hp) '''W126/V126//C126:'''<br> following CA in pos. 4-5: *24 = 300SE ['88-'91] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *25 = 300SEL ['88-'91] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *32 = 380SE ['84-'85] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *33 = 380SEL ['81-'83] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *35 = 420SEL ['86-'91] (4.2-liter M116 V8) *37 = 500SEL ['84-'85] (5.0-liter M117 V8) *39 = 560SEL ['86-'91] (5.5-liter M117 V8) *43 = 380SEC ['82-'83] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *44 = 500SEC ['84-'85] (5.0-liter M117 V8) *45 = 560SEC ['86-'91] (5.5-liter M117 V8) following CB in pos. 4-5: *20 = 300SD Turbodiesel ['81-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *25 = 300SDL Turbodiesel ['86-'87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *34 = 350SD Turbodiesel ['91] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *35 = 350SDL Turbodiesel ['90-'91] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) '''W140/V140/C140:'''<br> following GA in pos. 4-5: *32 = 300SE ['92-'93], S320 sedan SWB ['94-'99] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *33 = S320 sedan LWB ['95-'99] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *42 = 400SE ['92] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *43 = 400SEL ['93], S420 ['94-'99] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *51 = 500SEL ['92-'93], S500 sedan ['94-'99] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *57 = 600SEL ['92-'93], S600 sedan ['94-'99] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) *70 = 500SEC ['93], S500 coupe ['94-'97], CL500 ['98-'99] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *76 = 600SEC ['93], S600 coupe ['94-'97], CL600 ['98-'99] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) following GB in pos. 4-5: *34 = 300SD Turbodiesel ['92-'93], S350 Turbodiesel ['94-'95] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) '''V220:'''<br> following NG in pos. 4-5: *70 = S430 ['00-'06] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *73 = S55 AMG ['01-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = S55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *75 = S500 ['00-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *78 = S600 ['01-'02] (5.8-liter SOHC, 36-valve M137 V12) *76 = S600 ['03-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = S65 AMG ['06] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *83 = S430 4Matic ['03-'06] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *84 = S500 4Matic ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''W220:'''<br> following NF in pos. 4-5: *67 = S350 ['06] (3.7-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''C215:'''<br> following PJ in pos. 4-5: *73 = CL55 AMG ['01-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CL55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *75 = CL500 ['00-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *78 = CL600 ['01-'02] (5.8-liter SOHC, 36-valve M137 V12) *76 = CL600 ['03-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = CL65 AMG ['05-'06] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) '''V221:'''<br> following NG in pos. 4-5: *71 = S550 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7B = S550 ['10-'11] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7D = S550 ['12-'13] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *76 = S600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *7G = S600 ['10-'13] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = S63 AMG ['08-09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7H = S63 AMG ['10] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7E = S63 AMG ['11-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *79 = S65 AMG ['07-09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = S65 AMG ['10-'13] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *8D = S350 Bluetec 4Matic ['12-'13] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *86 = S550 4Matic ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *8G = S550 4Matic ['10-'11] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *9E = S550 4Matic ['12-'13] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9F = S400 Hybrid ['10-'13] (Mild Hybrid: 3.5-liter M272 90° Atkinson-cycle V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C216:'''<br> following EJ in pos. 4-5: *71 = CL550 ['07-'08] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *76 = CL600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *7G = CL600 ['10-'14] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = CL63 AMG ['08-'09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7H = CL63 AMG ['10] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7E = CL63 AMG ['11-'14] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *79 = CL65 AMG ['08-'09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = CL65 AMG ['10-'14] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *86 = CL550 4Matic ['09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *8G = CL550 4Matic ['10] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *9E = CL550 4Matic ['11-'14] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) '''V222:'''<br> following UG in pos. 4-5: *6D = S550 Plug-in Hybrid ['15], S550e ['16-'17] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7D = S560e ['19-'20] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6G = S450 sedan ['18-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6E = S450 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8C = S550 sedan ['14-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8D = S560 sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *8F = S550 4Matic sedan ['14-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = S560 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7G = S600 sedan ['15-'17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M277 V12) *7K = S65 AMG sedan ['15-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''X222:'''<br> following UX in pos. 4-5: *8F = Mercedes-Maybach S550 4Matic sedan ['17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = Mercedes-Maybach S560 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7G = Mercedes-Maybach S600 sedan ['16-'17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M277 V12) *8A = Mercedes-Maybach S650 sedan ['18-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''C217:'''<br> following XJ in pos. 4-5: *8F = S550 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = S560 4Matic coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = S65 AMG coupe ['15-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''A217:'''<br> following XK in pos. 4-5: *8C = S550 convertible ['17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8D = S560 convertible ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic convertible ['17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic convertible ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = S65 AMG convertible ['17-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) *7K = Mercedes-Maybach S650 convertible ['17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''V223:'''<br> following 6G in pos. 4-5: *6D = S500 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6K = S580e 4Matic sedan ['23-] (PHEV: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7G = S580 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8C = AMG S63 E Performance 4Matic+ ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''Z223:'''<br> following 6X in pos. 4-5: *7G = Mercedes-Maybach S580 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7K = Mercedes-Maybach S680 4Matic sedan ['22-] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''V297:'''<br> following CG in pos. 4-5: *2D = EQS450+ sedan ['22-'23] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 329 hp) *2D = EQS450+ sedan ['24-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 355 hp) *2E = EQS450 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 355 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic sedan ['22-'23] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 516 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic sedan ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 536 hp) *5F = AMG EQS 4Matic+ sedan ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 649 hp) '''W240:'''<br> following VF in pos. 4-5: *78 = Maybach 57 ['04-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *7J = Maybach 57 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *79 = Maybach 57S ['06-'09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7K = Maybach 57S ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 57S Zeppelin ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 57S ['11-'12] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) '''V240:'''<br> following VG in pos. 4-5: *78 = Maybach 62 ['04-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *7J = Maybach 62 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *79 = Maybach 62S ['07-'09], 62S Landaulet ('09) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7K = Maybach 62S ['10], 62S Landaulet ('10) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 62S Zeppelin ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 62S ['11-'12], 62S Landaulet ('11-'12) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) '''C208/A208:'''<br> following LJ in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['98-'02 coupe] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *70 = CLK430 ['99-'02 coupe] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CLK55 AMG ['01-'02 coupe] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) following LK in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['99-'03 convertible] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *70 = CLK430 ['00-'03 convertible] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CLK55 AMG ['02 convertible] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''C209/A209:'''<br> following TJ in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['03-'05 coupe] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = CLK350 ['06-'09 coupe] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = CLK500 ['03-'06 coupe] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLK550 ['07-'09 coupe] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLK55 AMG ['03-'05 coupe] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = CLK63 AMG Black Series ['08 coupe] (6.2-liter M156 V8) following TK in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['04-'05 convertible] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = CLK350 ['06-'09 convertible] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = CLK500 ['04-'06 convertible] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLK550 ['07-'09 convertible] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLK55 AMG ['04-'06 convertible] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = CLK63 AMG ['07-'08 convertible] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''C207/A207:'''<br> following KJ in pos. 4-5: *5G = E350 coupe ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 coupe ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 coupe ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 coupe ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7D = E550 coupe ['12-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8J = E350 4Matic coupe ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) following KK in pos. 4-5: *5G = E350 convertible ['11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 convertible ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 convertible ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 convertible ['11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7D = E550 convertible ['12-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) '''C238/A238:'''<br> following 1J in pos. 4-5: *6F = E400 coupe ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = E400 4Matic coupe ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E450 coupe ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic coupe ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5J = E450 coupe ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = E450 4Matic coupe ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic coupe ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following 1K in pos. 4-5: *6F = E400 convertible ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = E400 4Matic convertible ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E450 convertible ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic convertible ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5J = E450 convertible ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = E450 4Matic convertible ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic convertible ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C236/A236:'''<br> following MJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = CLE300 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = CLE450 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6C = AMG CLE53 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following MK in pos. 4-5: *4H = CLE300 4Matic convertible ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = CLE450 4Matic convertible ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6C = AMG CLE53 4Matic convertible ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''R170:'''<br> following KK in pos. 4-5: *47 = SLK230 Kompressor ['98-'00] (2.3-liter M111.973 supercharged I4) *49 = SLK230 Kompressor ['01-'04] (2.3-liter M111.983 supercharged I4) *65 = SLK320 ['01-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *66 = SLK32 AMG ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 supercharged 90° V6) '''R171:'''<br> following WK in pos. 4-5: *54 = SLK280 ['06-'08], SLK300 ['09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *5E = SLK300 ['10-'11] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = SLK350 ['05-'08] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *58 = SLK350 ['09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5J = SLK350 ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *73 = SLK55 AMG ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *7D = SLK55 AMG ['10] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''R172:'''<br> following PK in pos. 4-5: *4H = SLK250 ['12-'15] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *3J = SLK300 ['16], SLC300 ['17-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *5H = SLK350 ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = SLC43 AMG ['17-'20] (3.0-liter twin-turbocharged M276 60° GDI V6) *7F = SLK55 AMG ['12-'16] (5.5-liter M152 GDI V8) '''R107:'''<br> following BA in pos. 4-5: *45 = 380SL ['81-'85] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *48 = 560SL ['86-'89] (5.5-liter M117 V8) '''C107:'''<br> following BA in pos. 4-5: *25 = 380SLC ['81] (3.8-liter M116 V8) '''R129:'''<br> following FA in pos. 4-5: *61 = 300SL ['90-'93] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *63 = SL320 ['94-'97] (3.2-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *66 = 500SL ['90-'92] (5.0-liter DOHC, 32-valve M119 V8) *67 = 500SL ['93], SL500 ['94-'98] (5.0-liter DOHC, 32-valve M119 V8) *68 = SL500 ['99-'02] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *76 = 600SL ['93], SL600 ['94-'02] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) '''R230:'''<br> following SK in pos. 4-5: *75 = SL500 ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *71 = SL550 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7B = SL550 ['11-'12] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *74 = SL55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *72 = SL55 AMG ['07-'08] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *70 = SL63 AMG ['09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7A = SL63 AMG ['11-'12] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *76 = SL600 ['04-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = SL600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = SL65 AMG ['05-'09], SL65 AMG Black Series ['09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = SL65 AMG ['11] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) '''R231:'''<br> following JK in pos. 4-5: *6F = SL400 ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = SL450 ['17-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = SL550 ['13-'20] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = SL63 AMG ['13-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7K = SL65 AMG ['13-'18] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''R232:'''<br> following VK in pos. 4-5: *5A = AMG SL43 ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 2 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG SL55 4Matic+ ['22-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8B = AMG SL63 4Matic+ ['22-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8C = AMG SL63 S E Performance 4Matic+ ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C199/R199:'''<br> following AJ in pos. 4-5: *76 = SLR McLaren coupe ['05-'07] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M155 V8) following AK in pos. 4-5: *76 = SLR McLaren roadster ['08-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M155 V8) '''C197/R197:'''<br> following RJ in pos. 4-5: *7H = SLS AMG coupe ['11-'12] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7J = SLS AMG GT coupe ['13-'15] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7H = SLS AMG Black Series coupe ['14] (6.2-liter M159 V8) following RK in pos. 4-5: *7H = SLS AMG roadster ['12] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7J = SLS AMG GT roadster ['13-'15] (6.2-liter M159 V8) '''C190:'''<br> following YJ in pos. 4-5: *7H = AMG GT 2-d coupe (base model) ['17-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT 2-d coupe (base model) ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *AJ = AMG GT 2-d coupe S ['16] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7J = AMG GT 2-d coupe S ['16-'19] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8A = AMG GT 2-d coupe C ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d coupe R ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d coupe R Pro ['20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8B = AMG GT 2-d coupe Black Series ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 LS2 GDI flat-plane crank V8) '''R190:'''<br> following YK in pos. 4-5: *7H = AMG GT roadster (base model) ['17-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT roadster (base model) ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8A = AMG GT roadster C ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d roadster R ['20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) '''C192:'''<br> following RJ in pos. 4-5: *4C = AMG GT43 coupe ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 2 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GT55 4Matic+ coupe ['24-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7J = AMG GT63 4Matic+ coupe ['24-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT63 S E Performance 4Matic+ coupe ['25-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8J = AMG GT63 Pro 4Matic+ coupe ['25-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''X156:'''<br> *4E = GLA250 ['15-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *4G = GLA250 4Matic ['15-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *5C = GLA45 AMG 4Matic ['15-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI AMG M133 I4) '''H247:'''<br> *4G = GLA250 ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = GLA250 ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLA250 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = GLA250 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG GLA35 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG GLA35 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5D = AMG GLA45 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) '''X247:'''<br> *4G = GLB250 ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = GLB250 ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLB250 4Matic ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = GLB250 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG GLB35 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG GLB35 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X243:'''<br> *0C = EQB250+ ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 front motor, Fwd, 188 hp) *0K = EQB300 4Matic ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 225 hp) *1D = EQB350 4Matic ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) '''X204:'''<br> *0E = GLK250 Bluetec 4Matic ['13-'15] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5G = GLK350 2wd ['10-'12] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = GLK350 2wd ['13-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *8H = GLK350 4Matic ['10-'12] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = GLK350 4Matic ['13-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) '''X253:'''<br> following 0G in pos. 4-5: *4J = GLC300 2wd ['16-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = GLC300 4Matic ['16-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = GLC300 2wd ['20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = GLC300 4Matic ['20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *5E = GLC350e 4Matic ['18-'19] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + 114 hp electric motor, 8.7 kWh lithium-ion battery) *5D = GLC350e 4Matic ['20] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + 121 hp electric motor, 13.5 kWh lithium-ion battery) *6E = AMG GLC43 4Matic ['17-'22] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8J = AMG GLC63 4Matic ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''C253:'''<br> following 0J in pos. 4-5: *4K = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8E = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG GLC43 4Matic Coupe ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8J = AMG GLC63 4Matic Coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8K = AMG GLC63 S 4Matic Coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''X254:'''<br> following KM in pos. 4-5: *4G = GLC300 2wd ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLC300 4Matic ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5G = GLC350e 4Matic ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG GLC43 4Matic ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GLC63 S E Performance 4Matic ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''C254:'''<br> following KJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG GLC43 4Matic Coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GLC63 S E Performance 4Matic Coupe ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''W163:'''<br> *54 = ML320 ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *57 = ML350 ['03-'05] (3.7-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *72 = ML430 ['99-'01] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = ML55 AMG ['00-'03] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *75 = ML500 ['02-'05] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''W164:'''<br> *22 = ML320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = ML320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = ML350 Bluetec ['10-'11] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *56 = ML350 2wd ['09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5G = ML350 2wd ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *86 = ML350 4Matic ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8G = ML350 4Matic ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = ML500 ['06-'07] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = ML550 ['08-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7C = ML550 ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *77 = ML63 AMG ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = ML63 AMG ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *9F = ML450 Hybrid 4Matic ['10-'11] (2-Mode Hybrid: 3.5-liter Atkinson-cycle M272 90° V6 + 2 electric motors, Nickel–metal hydride battery) '''W166:'''<br> following DA in pos. 4-5: *2E = ML350 Bluetec ['12-'14 & '15 in Canada], GLE350d [Canada only: '16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *0E = ML250 Bluetec ['15], GLE300d ['16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5J = ML350 2wd ['13-'15], GLE350 2wd ['16-'18] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *5H = ML350 4Matic ['12-'15], GLE350 4Matic ['16-'18] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *5G = ML400 4Matic ['15], GLE400 4Matic ['16-'17 & '19, Canada only: '18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6D = GLE550e 4Matic ['16-'18] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6E = GLE450 AMG Sport 4Matic [Canada only: '16], AMG GLE43 4Matic ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = ML550 ['12-'14 & '15 in Canada], GLE550 [Canada only: '16-'19] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = ML63 AMG ['12-'15], AMG GLE63 ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = AMG GLE63 S ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''C292:'''<br> following ED in pos. 4-5: *2E = GLE350d Coupe [Canada only: '16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *6E = GLE450 AMG Sport 4Matic Coupe ['16], AMG GLE43 4Matic Coupe ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7F = AMG GLE63 S Coupe ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''W167:'''<br> following FB in pos. 4-5: *4J = GLE350 2wd ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *4K = GLE350 4Matic ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *4E = GLE350 2wd ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4F = GLE350 4Matic ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4G = GLE450e 4Matic ['24-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = GLE450 ['20-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GLE53 ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8G = GLE580 ['20-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8F = GLE580 ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLE63 S ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C167:'''<br> following FD in pos. 4-5: *5K = GLE450 Coupe [Canada only: '22-'24, US & Canada: '25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GLE53 Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLE63 S Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X294:'''<br> *2B = EQE350+ SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 288 hp) *1C = EQE350 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) *2C = EQE500 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 402 hp) *5D = AMG EQE 4Matic+ SUV ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 617 hp) '''V251:'''<br> *22 = R320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = R320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = R350 Bluetec ['10-'12 & '13 in Canada] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *56 = R350 2wd ['08] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *65 = R350 4Matic ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *6F = R350 4Matic ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = R350 4Matic ['12 & '13 in Canada] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *75 = R500 ['06-'07] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = R63 AMG ['07] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''X164:'''<br> *22 = GL320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = GL320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = GL350 Bluetec ['10-'12] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *71 = GL450 ['07-'09] (4.7-liter M273 V8) *7B = GL450 ['10-'12] (4.7-liter M273 V8) *86 = GL550 ['08-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *8G = GL550 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter M273 V8) '''X166:'''<br> *2E = GL350 Bluetec ['13-'16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *7C = GL450 ['13-'14] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8 - detuned version) *6E = GL450 ['15-'16], GLS450 ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = GL550 ['13-'16], GLS550 ['17-'19] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = GL63 AMG ['13-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = AMG GLS63 ['17-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''X167:'''<br> *5K = GLS450 ['20-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8G = GLS580 ['20-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8F = GLS580 ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = Mercedes-Maybach GLS600 ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLS63 4MATIC+ ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X296:'''<br> *2D = EQS450+ SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 355 hp) *2E = EQS450 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 355 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 536 hp) '''Z296:'''<br> *5F = Mercedes-Maybach EQS680 4Matic SUV ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 649 hp) '''W463 (1st gen.):'''<br> *49 = G500 ['02-'08] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *37 = G550 ['09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *3H = G550 ['10-'15] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *3K = G550 ['16-'18] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *5F = G550 4x4² ['17-'18] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *46 = G55 AMG ['03-'04] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *71 = G55 AMG ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *7B = G55 AMG ['10-'11] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *7D = G63 AMG ['13-'18] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = G65 AMG ['16-'18] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''W463 (2nd gen.):'''<br> *6B = G550 ['19-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7H = AMG G63 ['19-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8A = AMG G63 4x4² ['22-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W465:'''<br> following WH in pos. 4-5: *1A = G550 ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5A = AMG G63 ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''N465:'''<br> following WM in pos. 4-5: *0A = G580 with EQ Technology ['25-] (battery-electric, 4 motors, 4wd, 579 hp) ===Position 8=== Passenger cars - Restraint system: * A 3-point seat belts for outboard passengers, center rear lap belt * B seat belt + emergency pretensioners for front passenger seat & driver-side front airbag * C seat belt + emergency pretensioners for both front seats * D seat belt + emergency pretensioners for both front seats, driver-side front air bag and knee bolster * E seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear lap belt (SL-Class does not have rear seats) * F seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt (SL-Class & SLK-Class do not have rear seats) ['96-'98 210-series E-class sedan, '98-'99 210-series E-class wagon, '96- R129 SL-Class, '98- R170 SLK-Class] * G seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear lap belt (CL-Class & CLK-Class do not have center rear seat position) ['97-'99 140-series S-class, '98-'00 202-series C-Class, '98-'02 208-series CLK-Class coupe, '99-'03 208-series CLK-Class convertible] * H seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, front to rear side curtain airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt ['99 210-series E-Class sedan] * J seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, front to rear side curtain airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt ['00- 210-series E-Class, '00- 220-series S-Class, '00- 215-series CL-Class, '01- 203-series C-Class, '03- 209-series CLK-Class coupe] SUVs - GVWR ('98-'09): * E = Class E: 6001-7000 lbs. ('98-'09 M-Class, '02-'09 G-Class, '06-'09 R-Class, '07-'09 GL-Class) SUVs - Restraint system & GVWR ('10-): ===Position 9, Check Digit=== [[Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Check digit |Check digit]] ===Position 10, Model Year: === [[Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Model year|Model year]] ===Position 11, Production Plant:=== * A-D: Sindelfingen, Germany * E: Sindelfingen, Germany (through 2000) * E: Juiz de Fora, Minas Gerais, Brazil (from 2001) * E: Mishawaka, Indiana, US (AM General plant) ('16-'17 R-Class for China) * F-H: Bremen, Germany * J, K: Rastatt, Germany * L: Pekan, Pahang, Malaysia (HICOM Automotive Manufacturers plant) * M: Woking, England, UK (SLR McLaren) (McLaren Automotive plant) * N, P: Kecskemet, Hungary * R, S: East London, South Africa * T: Osnabrück, Germany (Karmann plant) * U: Sindelfingen, Germany * V: Uusikaupunki, Finland (Valmet Automotive plant) * W: Aguascalientes, Mexico (COMPAS plant) * X: Graz, Austria (Magna Steyr plant) * 1: Pune, Maharashtra, India For 4JG and 55S: * A, B, U: Vance, Alabama, US ===Positions 12–17, Serial Number=== ==Commercial Vehicles== Position 1-3 * WDB - Daimler-Benz AG, DaimlerChrysler AG, Daimler AG * VSA - Mercedes-Benz Espana SA (1st gen. Vito/V-Class - W638) * WDF - DaimlerChrysler AG, Daimler AG (Citan, Vito/V-Class & X-Class) * W1T - Daimler AG (Daimler Truck Holding AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz truck) * W1V - Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz van) Position 4–6, Model *414 - Vaneo *415 - Mark 1 Citan *420 - Mark 2 Citan *447 - Mark 3 Vito *470 - X-Class *638 - Mark 1 Vito *639 - Mark 2 Vito *670 - Vario *901 - Sprinter T1N *902 - Sprinter T1N *903 - Sprinter T1N *904 - Sprinter T1N *905 - Sprinter T1N *906 - Sprinter NCV3 *907 - Sprinter VS30 (RWD) *910 - Sprinter VS30 (FWD) *930 - Actros Rigids *933 - Actros MP2 concrete mixer *934 - Actros MP2 tractor *944 - Axor Tractor *950 - Axor Rigids / Actros Mk1 Rigids *952 - Axor *954 - Actros Mk1 Tractor *956 - Econic *963 - NEW ACTROS MP4 (Common-Rail engine) / Antos *964 - NEW ACTROS MP4 (Common-Rail engine) / Arocs *967 - Atego *970 - Atego *972 - Atego *976 - Atego Fire Position 7–9, Weight and Length code Position 10, Drive indicator *1 Left hand drive *2 Right hand drive Position 11, Plant code * E: Buenos Aires, Argentina * G: Barcelona, Spain (Nissan plant) (X-Class pickup) * N: Ludwigsfelde, Germany * P, R, S: Dusseldorf, Germany * T: Ladson, South Carolina, US * U: Maubeuge, France (Renault plant) (Citan, T-Class, EQT) * V: Worth, Germany * 3: Vitoria, Spain * 4: Vitoria, Spain (When Position 1-3 is W1V) * 4: Worth, Germany * 5: Dusseldorf, Germany * 9: Ludwigsfelde, Germany Position 12–17, Serial Number Position 18, Check Digit ==External links== Online [http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz Vito decoder] WDB1260251A336981 {{BookCat}} pzvsj7ir60dtrb5u15gr3oewj8p02hl 4520876 4520872 2025-07-01T22:10:41Z JustTheFacts33 3434282 /* Positions 6–7, Model within the series: */ 4520876 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Warning}}{{clear}} Mercedes-Benz uses the following VIN formats: (Note) This chart is not applicable to Mercedes-Benz products made for markets other than North America. European/World market cars use a different system for encoding VIN numbers. ==1960-1980== Position 1-3 - chassis code (e.g. 107, 116, 123, etc.) Position 4-6 - model type (e.g. 024, 032, 033, 036, 044, 045, etc.) Position 7 - 1=LH Drive (made in Germany), 2=RH Drive (made in Germany), 5=LH Drive CKD, 6=RH Drive CKD (Complete Knocked Down, assembled outside Germany)1 Position 8 - 0=Manual transmission, 1=Hydraulic clutch, 2= Automatic transmission 2 (Alphabetics indicate Plant of Manufacture i.e.: A = Sindelfingen) Position 9-14 - Construction serial number 10704312006193 ==Passenger Vehicles 1981-== ===Positions 1–3, World Manufacturer Identifier:=== * WDB Daimler-Benz AG (DaimlerChrysler after 1998) (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz or Maybach passenger car) * WDC DaimlerChrysler AG (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * WDD DaimlerChrysler AG (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) * W1K Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) * W1N Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * 4JG Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * 55S Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) ===Position 4, Model or Series:=== * A W123 300-Class * B R107 SL-Class * B C107 SLC-Class * C W126/C126 S-Class * D W201 190-Class * E W124 300-Class/E-Class * F R129 SL-Class * G W140/C140 S-Class, C140 CL-Class * H W202 C-Class * J W210 E-Class * K R170 SLK-Class * L C208/A208 CLK-Class * N W220 S-Class * P C215 CL-Class * R W203 C-Class * S R230 SL-Class * T C209/A209 CLK-Class * U W211 E-Class * W R171 SLK-Class *---------------------------------- * A C199/R199/Z199 SLR McLaren * D C219 CLS-Class * E C216 CL-Class * F W245 B-Class (Canada only) * G W204 C-Class * H W212/S212 E-Class sedan/wagon * J R231 SL-Class * K C207/A207 E-Class coupe/convertible * L C218 CLS-Class * M W246 B-Class (Canada only) * N W221 S-Class * P R172 SLK-Class/SLC-Class * R C197/R197 SLS AMG * S C117 CLA-Class * U W222 S-Class sedan * V W240 Maybach 57/62 * V N242 B-Class Electric * W W205 C-Class * X C217/A217 S-Class coupe/convertible * Y C190/R190 AMG GT coupe/roadster * Z W213/S213/X213 E-Class sedan/wagon/All-Terrain wagon * 1 C238/A238 E-Class coupe/convertible * 2 C257 CLS-Class * 3 V177 A-Class sedan * 3 W177 A-Class hatchback (Canada only) * 5 C118 CLA-Class * 6 W223 S-Class sedan * 7 X290 AMG GT 4-door coupe *---------------------------------- * A W206 C-Class * C V297 EQS-Class sedan * E V295 EQE-Class sedan * L W214/X214 E-Class sedan/All-Terrain wagon * M C236/A236 CLE-Class coupe/convertible * R C192 AMG GT coupe * V R232 SL-Class *---------------------------------- * A W163 M-Class * B W164 M-Class * B X164 GL-Class * C W251 R-Class * D W166 M-Class/GLE-Class * D X166 GL-Class/GLS-Class * D X296 EQS-Class SUV * E C292 GLE-Class Coupe * F W167/C167 GLE-Class * F X167 GLS-Class * G X204 GLK-Class * 0 X253/C253 GLC-Class * G X294 EQE-Class SUV * K X254/C254 GLC-Class * T X156 GLA-Class * Y W463 G-Class * W W465 G-Class * 4 H247 GLA-Class * 4 X247 GLB-Class * 9 X243 EQB-Class ===Position 5, Body Style:=== Passenger Cars: * B = Long Body * F = Sedan ('96+ E-Class, '01+ C-Class, '06 S-Class [S350], Maybach 57) * F = 5-door hatchback (Canada only: '19-'22 A-Class) * G = Sedan Long Wheelbase ('00+ S-Class, Maybach 62) * G = Sedan ('19-'22 A-Class sedan) * H = Wagon ('98-'09, '11- E-Class wagon, '02-'05 C-Class wagon, Canada only: '19-'21 C-Class wagon) * H = "Sedan" [5-door hatchback/compact minivan] ('06-'11, '13-'19 B-Class [gas engine] - Canada only) * J = 2-door Coupe ('98-'09 CLK-Class Coupe, '12-'15, '17-'23 C-Class coupe, '10-'23 E-Class coupe, '24- CLE-Class coupe, '00-'14 CL-Class, '15-'21 S-Class coupe, '05-'07 SLR McLaren coupe, '11-'15 SLS AMG coupe, '16-'21, '24- AMG GT coupe) * J = 4-door Coupe ('06-'23 CLS-Class, '14- CLA-Class) * K = Cabriolet/Roadster ('99-'09 CLK-Class Cabriolet, '17-'23 C-Class Cabriolet, '11-'23 E-Class Cabriolet, '24- CLE-Class Cabriolet, '17-'21 S-Class Cabriolet, '98-'16 SLK-Class, '17-'20 SLC-Class, '03+ SL-Class, '08-'09 SLR McLaren roadster, '12-'15 SLS AMG roadster, '18-'21 AMG GT roadster) * N = "Coupe" [3-door hatchback] ('02-'05 C-Class Sport Coupe) * P = "Sedan" [5-door hatchback/compact minivan] (B-Class Electric) * X = 4-door Coupe [5-door hatchback] ('19- AMG GT 4-door Coupe) SUVs: * A = 4-door MPV ('12-'15 M-Class, '16-'19 GLE-Class wagon) * B = 4-door MPV ('98-'11 M-Class) * B = 4-door MPV ('20-' GLE-Class wagon) * B = 4-door MPV ('06-'13 R-Class) * C = 4-door MPV ('10-'24 G-Class) * D = 4-door MPV ('16-'19, '21- GLE-Class Coupe) * F = 4-door MPV ('07-'16 GL-Class, '17- GLS-Class) * G = 4-door MPV ('10-'15 GLK-Class, '16-'22 GLC-Class wagon) * G = 4-door MPV ('15-'20 GLA-Class) * H = 4-door MPV ('25- G550, G63 AMG) * J = 4-door MPV ('17- GLC-Class Coupe) * M = 4-door MPV ('20- GLB-Class, '22- EQB-Class) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- GLC-Class wagon) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- EQE-Class SUV) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- EQS-Class SUV) * M = 4-door MPV ('25- G580 EQ [EV]) * N = 4-door MPV ('21- GLA-Class) * R = 4-door MPV ('02-'09 G-Class) On older models, this indicated the engine type, through much of the 1990s and into the 2000's for some models: * A = Gasoline (190 Class '84-'93, C-Class '94-'00, 300 Class '81, '86-'93, E-Class '94-'95, S-Class '81-'99, CL-Class '98-'99, SL-Class '81-'02, SLC '81) * B = Diesel (190 Class '84-'89, 300 Class '81-'85, '87, '90-'93, E-Class '95, S-Class '81-'87, '90-'95) * D = 4Matic Gasoline ('90-'93 300E 4Matic, 300TE 4Matic) * M = AMG Gasoline ('95-'97 C36 AMG only) ===Positions 6–7, Model within the series:=== '''V177:'''<br> following 3G in pos. 4-5: *4E = A220 sedan ['19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4F = A220 4Matic sedan ['19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG A35 4Matic sedan ['20-'21 & in Canada: '22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) '''W177:'''<br> following 3F in pos. 4-5: *4G = A250 hatchback [Canada only: '19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = A250 4Matic hatchback [Canada only: '19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG A35 4Matic hatchback [Canada only: '20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) '''W245:'''<br> following FH in pos. 4-5: *33 = B200 [Canada only: '06-'09] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve M266.980 I4 *3D = B200 [Canada only: '10-'11] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve M266.980 I4 *34 = B200 Turbo [Canada only: '06-'09] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve turbo M266.980 I4 *3E = B200 Turbo [Canada only: '10-'11] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve turbo M266.980 I4 *8G = B-Class F-Cell (hydrogen fuel cell) '''W246:'''<br> following MH in pos. 4-5: *4E = B250 [Canada only: '13-'19] 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve turbo M270 I4 *4G = B250 4Matic [Canada only: '15-'19] 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve turbo M270 I4 '''N242:'''<br> following VP in pos. 4-5: *9A = B-Class Electric Drive ['14-'15], B250e ['16-'17] (Tesla front electric motor, Lithium-ion battery pack, fwd, 177 hp) '''C117:'''<br> following SJ in pos. 4-5: *4E = CLA250 sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *4G = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *5C = CLA45 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI AMG M133 I4) '''C118:'''<br> following 5J in pos. 4-5: *4G = CLA250 sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = CLA250 sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG CLA35 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG CLA35 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5D = AMG CLA45 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) *5E = AMG CLA45 S 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) '''W201:'''<br> following DA in pos. 4-5: *24 = 190E 2.3 ['84-'86] (2.3-liter SOHC, 8 valve M102 I4) *28 = 190E 2.3 ['87-'88, '91-'93] (2.3-liter SOHC, 8 valve M102 I4) *29 = 190E 2.6 ['87-'93] (2.6-liter M103 I6) *34 = 190E 2.3-16 ['86-'87] (2.3-liter DOHC, 16 valve M102 I4) following DB in pos. 4-5: *22 = 190D 2.2 ['84-'85] (2.2-liter OM601 diesel I4) *26 = 190D 2.5 ['86-'89] (2.5-liter OM602 diesel I5) *28 = 190D 2.5 Turbo ['87] (2.5-liter OM602 turbodiesel I5) '''W202:'''<br> following HA in pos. 4-5: *22 = C220 ['94-'96] (2.2-liter M111 I4) *23 = C230 ['97-'98] (2.3-liter M111 I4) *24 = C230 Kompressor ['99-'00] (2.3-liter supercharged M111 I4) *28 = C280 ['94-'97] (2.8-liter M104 I6) *29 = C280 ['98-'00] (2.8-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *33 = C43 AMG ['98-'00] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113.944 V8) following HM in pos. 4-5: *36 = C36 AMG ['95-'97] (3.6-liter M104 AMG I6) '''W203/S203/CL203:'''<br> following RF in pos. 4-5: *40 = C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan ['03-'05] (1.8-liter supercharged M271 I4) *52 = C230 Sport Sedan ['06-'07] (2.5-liter M272 90° V6) *54 = C280 sedan ['06-'07] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = C350 sedan ['06-'07] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *61 = C240 sedan ['01-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *64 = C320 sedan ['01-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *65 = C32 AMG sedan ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve supercharged M112 90° V6) *76 = C55 AMG ['05-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *81 = C240 4Matic sedan ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *84 = C320 4Matic sedan ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *87 = C350 4Matic sedan ['06-'07] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *92 = C280 4Matic sedan ['06-'07] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) following RH in pos. 4-5: *61 = C240 wagon ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *64 = C320 wagon ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *81 = C240 4Matic wagon ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *84 = C320 4Matic wagon ['03-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) following RN in pos. 4-5: *47 = C230 Kompressor Sport Coupe ['02] (2.3-liter supercharged M111 I4) *40 = C230 Kompressor Sport Coupe ['03-'05] (1.8-liter supercharged M271 I4) *64 = C320 Sport Coupe ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''W204/C204:'''<br> following GF in pos. 4-5: *4H = C250 sedan ['12-'14] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *54 = C300 sedan ['08-'09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *5E = C300 sedan ['10-'11] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = C350 sedan ['08-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5G = C350 sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = C350 sedan ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *77 = C63 AMG sedan ['08-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = C63 AMG sedan ['10-'14], C63 AMG Edition 507 ['14] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *81 = C300 4Matic sedan ['08-'09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *8B = C300 4Matic sedan ['10-'12] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *8A = C300 4Matic sedan ['13-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 - detuned version) following GJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = C250 coupe ['12-'15] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *5H = C350 coupe ['12-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *7H = C63 AMG coupe ['12-'15], C63 AMG Black Series coupe ['12-'13], C63 AMG Edition 507 ['14-'15] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *8J = C350 4Matic coupe ['12-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) '''W205/S205/C205/A205:'''<br> following WF in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 sedan ['15-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic sedan ['15-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4H = C350e sedan ['16-'18] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8D = C300 sedan ['19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic sedan ['19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6G = C400 4Matic sedan ['15] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6E = C450 AMG Sport 4Matic sedan ['16], AMG C43 4Matic sedan ['17-'21] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 sedan ['15-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S sedan ['15-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following WH in pos. 4-5: *4K = C300 4Matic wagon [Canada: '18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic wagon [Canada: '19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic wagon [Canada: '19-'21] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) following WJ in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 coupe ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic coupe ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = C300 coupe ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic coupe ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic coupe ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 coupe ['17-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S coupe ['17-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following WK in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 convertible ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic convertible ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = C300 convertible ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic convertible ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic convertible ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 convertible ['17-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S convertible ['17-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W206:'''<br> following AF in pos. 4-5: *4G = C300 sedan ['22-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = C300 4Matic sedan ['22-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG C43 4Matic+ sedan ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG C63 S E Performance 4Matic sedan ['24-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''W123/S123/C123:'''<br> following AA in pos. 4-5: *33 = 280E ['81] (2.7-liter DOHC, 12-valve M110.984 I6) *53 = 280CE ['81] (2.7-liter DOHC, 12-valve M110.984 I6) following AB in pos. 4-5: *23 = 240D ['81-'83] (2.4-liter OM616 diesel I4) *30 = 300D ['81] (3.0-liter OM617 diesel I5) *33 = 300D Turbodiesel ['82-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *50 = 300CD ['81] (3.0-liter OM617 diesel I5) *53 = 300CD Turbodiesel ['82-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *93 = 300TD Turbodiesel ['81-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) '''W124/S124/C124/A124:'''<br> following EA in pos. 4-5: *26 = 260E ['87-'89], 300E 2.6 ['90-'92] (2.6-liter M103 I6) *28 = 300E 2.8 ['93] (2.8-liter M104 I6) *30 = 300E ['86-'92] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *32 = 300E ['93], E320 sedan ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *34 = 400E ['92-'93], E420 sedan ['94-'95] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *36 = 500E ['92-'93], E500 sedan ['94] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *50 = 300CE ['88-'89] (3.0-liter SOHC, 12 valve M103 I6) *51 = 300CE ['90-'92] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *52 = 300CE coupe ['93], E320 coupe ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *66 = 300CE convertible ['93], E320 convertible ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *90 = 300TE ['88-'92] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *92 = 300TE ['93], E320 wagon ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) following EB in pos. 4-5: *28 = 300D 2.5 Turbo ['90-'93] (2.5-liter OM602 turbodiesel I5) *31 = E300 Diesel ['95] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 diesel I6) *33 = 300D Turbo ['87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *93 = 300TD Turbo ['87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) following ED in pos. 4-5: *30 = 300E 4Matic ['90-'93] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *90 = 300TE 4Matic ['90-'93] (3.0-liter M103 I6) '''W210/S210:'''<br> following JF in pos. 4-5: *20 = E300 Diesel ['96-'97] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 diesel I6) *25 = E300 Turbodiesel ['98-'99] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 turbodiesel I6) *55 = E320 ['96-'97] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *65 = E320 sedan ['98-'02] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *72 = E420 ['97] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *70 = E430 ['98-'02] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = E55 AMG ['99-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic sedan ['98-'02] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E430 4Matic ['00-'02] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) following JH in pos. 4-5: *65 = E320 wagon ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *82 = E320 4Matic wagon ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''W211/S211:'''<br> following UF in pos. 4-5: *26 = E320 CDI sedan ['05-'06] (3.2-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM648 turbodiesel I6) *22 = E320 Bluetec sedan ['07-'09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *65 = E320 sedan ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = E350 sedan ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *70 = E500 sedan ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = E550 sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = E55 AMG sedan ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = E63 AMG sedan ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic sedan ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E500 4Matic sedan ['04-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *87 = E350 4Matic sedan ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *90 = E550 4Matic sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) following UH in pos. 4-5: *65 = E320 wagon ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = E350 wagon ['06] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *76 = E55 AMG wagon ['05-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = E63 AMG wagon ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic wagon ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E500 4Matic wagon ['04-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *87 = E350 4Matic wagon ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) '''W212/S212:'''<br> following HF in pos. 4-5: *2E = E350 Bluetec sedan ['11-'13] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *0E = E250 Bluetec sedan ['14-'16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5G = E350 sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 sedan ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7H = E63 AMG sedan ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7E = E63 AMG sedan ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = E63 AMG S 4Matic sedan ['14-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8B = E300 4Matic sedan [Canada only: '12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 - detuned version) *8H = E350 4Matic sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = E350 4Matic sedan ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *9A = E550 4Matic sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *9B = E550 4Matic sedan ['12-'14, Canada only: '15-'16] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9C = E63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'15] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *9F = E400 Hybrid sedan ['13-'15] (Mild Hybrid: 3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *9H = E250 Bluetec 4Matic sedan ['14-'16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve turbodiesel I4) following HH in pos. 4-5: *8H = E350 4Matic wagon ['11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = E350 4Matic wagon ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic wagon [Canada only: '15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7E = E63 AMG wagon ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = E63 AMG S 4Matic wagon ['14-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''W213/S213:'''<br> following ZF in pos. 4-5: *4J = E300 sedan ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = E300 4Matic sedan ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = E350 sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = E350 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6G = E400 4Matic sedan ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic sedan ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5K = E450 4Matic sedan ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6E = AMG E43 4Matic sedan ['17-'18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic sedan ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG E63 S 4Matic sedan ['18-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following ZH in pos. 4-5: *6G = E400 4Matic wagon ['17-'18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic wagon ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6A = E450 4Matic All-Terrain wagon ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG E63 S 4Matic wagon ['18-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W214/S214:'''<br> following LF in pos. 4-5: *4G = E350 sedan ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = E350 4Matic sedan ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = E450 4Matic sedan ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6D = AMG E53 4Matic+ Hybrid sedan ['25-] (PHEV: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following LH in pos. 4-5: *6F = E450 4Matic All-Terrain wagon ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C219:'''<br> following DJ in pos. 4-5: *75 = CLS500 sedan ['06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLS550 sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7C = CLS550 sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLS55 AMG sedan ['06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = CLS63 AMG sedan ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = CLS63 AMG sedan ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''C218:'''<br> following LJ in pos. 4-5: *6F = CLS400 sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = CLS400 4Matic sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = CLS550 sedan ['12-'18] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = CLS63 AMG sedan ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = CLS63 AMG S 4Matic sedan ['14-'18] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *9B = CLS550 4Matic sedan ['12-'18] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9C = CLS63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''C257:'''<br> following 2J in pos. 4-5: *5J = CLS450 sedan ['19-'21] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = CLS450 4Matic sedan ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG CLS53 4Matic sedan ['19-'21] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X290:'''<br> following 7X in pos. 4-5: *5K = AMG GT43 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GT53 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8J = AMG GT63 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-'21, '23-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8K = AMG GT63 S 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT63 S E Performance 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''V295:'''<br> following EG in pos. 4-5: *2B = EQE350+ sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 288 hp) *1C = EQE350 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) *2C = EQE500 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 402 hp) *5D = AMG EQE 4Matic+ sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 617 hp) '''W126/V126//C126:'''<br> following CA in pos. 4-5: *24 = 300SE ['88-'91] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *25 = 300SEL ['88-'91] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *32 = 380SE ['84-'85] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *33 = 380SEL ['81-'83] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *35 = 420SEL ['86-'91] (4.2-liter M116 V8) *37 = 500SEL ['84-'85] (5.0-liter M117 V8) *39 = 560SEL ['86-'91] (5.5-liter M117 V8) *43 = 380SEC ['82-'83] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *44 = 500SEC ['84-'85] (5.0-liter M117 V8) *45 = 560SEC ['86-'91] (5.5-liter M117 V8) following CB in pos. 4-5: *20 = 300SD Turbodiesel ['81-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *25 = 300SDL Turbodiesel ['86-'87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *34 = 350SD Turbodiesel ['91] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *35 = 350SDL Turbodiesel ['90-'91] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) '''W140/V140/C140:'''<br> following GA in pos. 4-5: *32 = 300SE ['92-'93], S320 sedan SWB ['94-'99] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *33 = S320 sedan LWB ['95-'99] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *42 = 400SE ['92] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *43 = 400SEL ['93], S420 ['94-'99] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *51 = 500SEL ['92-'93], S500 sedan ['94-'99] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *57 = 600SEL ['92-'93], S600 sedan ['94-'99] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) *70 = 500SEC ['93], S500 coupe ['94-'97], CL500 ['98-'99] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *76 = 600SEC ['93], S600 coupe ['94-'97], CL600 ['98-'99] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) following GB in pos. 4-5: *34 = 300SD Turbodiesel ['92-'93], S350 Turbodiesel ['94-'95] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) '''V220:'''<br> following NG in pos. 4-5: *70 = S430 ['00-'06] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *73 = S55 AMG ['01-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = S55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *75 = S500 ['00-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *78 = S600 ['01-'02] (5.8-liter SOHC, 36-valve M137 V12) *76 = S600 ['03-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = S65 AMG ['06] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *83 = S430 4Matic ['03-'06] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *84 = S500 4Matic ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''W220:'''<br> following NF in pos. 4-5: *67 = S350 ['06] (3.7-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''C215:'''<br> following PJ in pos. 4-5: *73 = CL55 AMG ['01-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CL55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *75 = CL500 ['00-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *78 = CL600 ['01-'02] (5.8-liter SOHC, 36-valve M137 V12) *76 = CL600 ['03-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = CL65 AMG ['05-'06] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) '''V221:'''<br> following NG in pos. 4-5: *71 = S550 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7B = S550 ['10-'11] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7D = S550 ['12-'13] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *76 = S600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *7G = S600 ['10-'13] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = S63 AMG ['08-09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7H = S63 AMG ['10] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7E = S63 AMG ['11-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *79 = S65 AMG ['07-09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = S65 AMG ['10-'13] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *8D = S350 Bluetec 4Matic ['12-'13] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *86 = S550 4Matic ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *8G = S550 4Matic ['10-'11] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *9E = S550 4Matic ['12-'13] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9F = S400 Hybrid ['10-'13] (Mild Hybrid: 3.5-liter M272 90° Atkinson-cycle V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C216:'''<br> following EJ in pos. 4-5: *71 = CL550 ['07-'08] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *76 = CL600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *7G = CL600 ['10-'14] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = CL63 AMG ['08-'09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7H = CL63 AMG ['10] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7E = CL63 AMG ['11-'14] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *79 = CL65 AMG ['08-'09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = CL65 AMG ['10-'14] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *86 = CL550 4Matic ['09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *8G = CL550 4Matic ['10] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *9E = CL550 4Matic ['11-'14] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) '''V222:'''<br> following UG in pos. 4-5: *6D = S550 Plug-in Hybrid ['15], S550e ['16-'17] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7D = S560e ['19-'20] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6G = S450 sedan ['18-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6E = S450 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8C = S550 sedan ['14-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8D = S560 sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *8F = S550 4Matic sedan ['14-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = S560 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7G = S600 sedan ['15-'17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M277 V12) *7K = S65 AMG sedan ['15-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''X222:'''<br> following UX in pos. 4-5: *8F = Mercedes-Maybach S550 4Matic sedan ['17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = Mercedes-Maybach S560 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7G = Mercedes-Maybach S600 sedan ['16-'17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M277 V12) *8A = Mercedes-Maybach S650 sedan ['18-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''C217:'''<br> following XJ in pos. 4-5: *8F = S550 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = S560 4Matic coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = S65 AMG coupe ['15-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''A217:'''<br> following XK in pos. 4-5: *8C = S550 convertible ['17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8D = S560 convertible ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic convertible ['17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic convertible ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = S65 AMG convertible ['17-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) *7K = Mercedes-Maybach S650 convertible ['17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''V223:'''<br> following 6G in pos. 4-5: *6D = S500 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6K = S580e 4Matic sedan ['23-] (PHEV: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7G = S580 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8C = AMG S63 E Performance 4Matic+ ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''Z223:'''<br> following 6X in pos. 4-5: *7G = Mercedes-Maybach S580 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7K = Mercedes-Maybach S680 4Matic sedan ['22-] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''V297:'''<br> following CG in pos. 4-5: *2D = EQS450+ sedan ['22-'23] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 329 hp) *2D = EQS450+ sedan ['24-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 355 hp) *2E = EQS450 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 355 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic sedan ['22-'23] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 516 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic sedan ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 536 hp) *5F = AMG EQS 4Matic+ sedan ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 649 hp) '''W240:'''<br> following VF in pos. 4-5: *78 = Maybach 57 ['04-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *7J = Maybach 57 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *79 = Maybach 57S ['06-'09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7K = Maybach 57S ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 57S Zeppelin ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 57S ['11-'12] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) '''V240:'''<br> following VG in pos. 4-5: *78 = Maybach 62 ['04-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *7J = Maybach 62 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *79 = Maybach 62S ['07-'09], 62S Landaulet ('09) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7K = Maybach 62S ['10], 62S Landaulet ('10) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 62S Zeppelin ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 62S ['11-'12], 62S Landaulet ('11-'12) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) '''C208/A208:'''<br> following LJ in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['98-'02 coupe] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *70 = CLK430 ['99-'02 coupe] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CLK55 AMG ['01-'02 coupe] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) following LK in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['99-'03 convertible] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *70 = CLK430 ['00-'03 convertible] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CLK55 AMG ['02 convertible] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''C209/A209:'''<br> following TJ in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['03-'05 coupe] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = CLK350 ['06-'09 coupe] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = CLK500 ['03-'06 coupe] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLK550 ['07-'09 coupe] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLK55 AMG ['03-'05 coupe] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = CLK63 AMG Black Series ['08 coupe] (6.2-liter M156 V8) following TK in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['04-'05 convertible] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = CLK350 ['06-'09 convertible] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = CLK500 ['04-'06 convertible] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLK550 ['07-'09 convertible] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLK55 AMG ['04-'06 convertible] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = CLK63 AMG ['07-'08 convertible] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''C207/A207:'''<br> following KJ in pos. 4-5: *5G = E350 coupe ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 coupe ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 coupe ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 coupe ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7D = E550 coupe ['12-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8J = E350 4Matic coupe ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) following KK in pos. 4-5: *5G = E350 convertible ['11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 convertible ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 convertible ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 convertible ['11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7D = E550 convertible ['12-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) '''C238/A238:'''<br> following 1J in pos. 4-5: *6F = E400 coupe ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = E400 4Matic coupe ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E450 coupe ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic coupe ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5J = E450 coupe ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = E450 4Matic coupe ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic coupe ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following 1K in pos. 4-5: *6F = E400 convertible ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = E400 4Matic convertible ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E450 convertible ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic convertible ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5J = E450 convertible ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = E450 4Matic convertible ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic convertible ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C236/A236:'''<br> following MJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = CLE300 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = CLE450 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6C = AMG CLE53 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following MK in pos. 4-5: *4H = CLE300 4Matic convertible ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = CLE450 4Matic convertible ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6C = AMG CLE53 4Matic convertible ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''R170:'''<br> following KK in pos. 4-5: *47 = SLK230 Kompressor ['98-'00] (2.3-liter M111.973 supercharged I4) *49 = SLK230 Kompressor ['01-'04] (2.3-liter M111.983 supercharged I4) *65 = SLK320 ['01-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *66 = SLK32 AMG ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 supercharged 90° V6) '''R171:'''<br> following WK in pos. 4-5: *54 = SLK280 ['06-'08], SLK300 ['09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *5E = SLK300 ['10-'11] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = SLK350 ['05-'08] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *58 = SLK350 ['09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5J = SLK350 ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *73 = SLK55 AMG ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *7D = SLK55 AMG ['10] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''R172:'''<br> following PK in pos. 4-5: *4H = SLK250 ['12-'15] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *3J = SLK300 ['16], SLC300 ['17-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *5H = SLK350 ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = SLC43 AMG ['17-'20] (3.0-liter twin-turbocharged M276 60° GDI V6) *7F = SLK55 AMG ['12-'16] (5.5-liter M152 GDI V8) '''R107:'''<br> following BA in pos. 4-5: *45 = 380SL ['81-'85] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *48 = 560SL ['86-'89] (5.5-liter M117 V8) '''C107:'''<br> following BA in pos. 4-5: *25 = 380SLC ['81] (3.8-liter M116 V8) '''R129:'''<br> following FA in pos. 4-5: *61 = 300SL ['90-'93] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *63 = SL320 ['94-'97] (3.2-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *66 = 500SL ['90-'92] (5.0-liter DOHC, 32-valve M119 V8) *67 = 500SL ['93], SL500 ['94-'98] (5.0-liter DOHC, 32-valve M119 V8) *68 = SL500 ['99-'02] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *76 = 600SL ['93], SL600 ['94-'02] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) '''R230:'''<br> following SK in pos. 4-5: *75 = SL500 ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *71 = SL550 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7B = SL550 ['11-'12] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *74 = SL55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *72 = SL55 AMG ['07-'08] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *70 = SL63 AMG ['09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7A = SL63 AMG ['11-'12] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *76 = SL600 ['04-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = SL600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = SL65 AMG ['05-'09], SL65 AMG Black Series ['09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = SL65 AMG ['11] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) '''R231:'''<br> following JK in pos. 4-5: *6F = SL400 ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = SL450 ['17-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = SL550 ['13-'20] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = SL63 AMG ['13-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7K = SL65 AMG ['13-'18] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''R232:'''<br> following VK in pos. 4-5: *5A = AMG SL43 ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 2 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG SL55 4Matic+ ['22-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8B = AMG SL63 4Matic+ ['22-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8C = AMG SL63 S E Performance 4Matic+ ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C199/R199:'''<br> following AJ in pos. 4-5: *76 = SLR McLaren coupe ['05-'07] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M155 V8) following AK in pos. 4-5: *76 = SLR McLaren roadster ['08-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M155 V8) '''C197/R197:'''<br> following RJ in pos. 4-5: *7H = SLS AMG coupe ['11-'12] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7J = SLS AMG GT coupe ['13-'15] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7H = SLS AMG Black Series coupe ['14] (6.2-liter M159 V8) following RK in pos. 4-5: *7H = SLS AMG roadster ['12] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7J = SLS AMG GT roadster ['13-'15] (6.2-liter M159 V8) '''C190:'''<br> following YJ in pos. 4-5: *7H = AMG GT 2-d coupe (base model) ['17-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT 2-d coupe (base model) ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *AJ = AMG GT 2-d coupe S ['16] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7J = AMG GT 2-d coupe S ['16-'19] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8A = AMG GT 2-d coupe C ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d coupe R ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d coupe R Pro ['20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8B = AMG GT 2-d coupe Black Series ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 LS2 GDI flat-plane crank V8) '''R190:'''<br> following YK in pos. 4-5: *7H = AMG GT roadster (base model) ['17-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT roadster (base model) ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8A = AMG GT roadster C ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d roadster R ['20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) '''C192:'''<br> following RJ in pos. 4-5: *4C = AMG GT43 coupe ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 2 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GT55 4Matic+ coupe ['24-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7J = AMG GT63 4Matic+ coupe ['24-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT63 S E Performance 4Matic+ coupe ['25-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8J = AMG GT63 Pro 4Matic+ coupe ['25-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''X156:'''<br> following TG in pos. 4-5: *4E = GLA250 ['15-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *4G = GLA250 4Matic ['15-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *5C = GLA45 AMG 4Matic ['15-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI AMG M133 I4) '''H247:'''<br> following 4N in pos. 4-5: *4G = GLA250 ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = GLA250 ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLA250 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = GLA250 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG GLA35 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG GLA35 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5D = AMG GLA45 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) '''X247:'''<br> following 4M in pos. 4-5: *4G = GLB250 ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = GLB250 ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLB250 4Matic ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = GLB250 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG GLB35 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG GLB35 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X243:'''<br> following 9M in pos. 4-5: *0C = EQB250+ ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 front motor, Fwd, 188 hp) *0K = EQB300 4Matic ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 225 hp) *1D = EQB350 4Matic ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) '''X204:'''<br> following GG in pos. 4-5: *0E = GLK250 Bluetec 4Matic ['13-'15] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5G = GLK350 2wd ['10-'12] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = GLK350 2wd ['13-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *8H = GLK350 4Matic ['10-'12] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = GLK350 4Matic ['13-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) '''X253:'''<br> following 0G in pos. 4-5: *4J = GLC300 2wd ['16-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = GLC300 4Matic ['16-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = GLC300 2wd ['20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = GLC300 4Matic ['20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *5E = GLC350e 4Matic ['18-'19] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + 114 hp electric motor, 8.7 kWh lithium-ion battery) *5D = GLC350e 4Matic ['20] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + 121 hp electric motor, 13.5 kWh lithium-ion battery) *6E = AMG GLC43 4Matic ['17-'22] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8J = AMG GLC63 4Matic ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''C253:'''<br> following 0J in pos. 4-5: *4K = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8E = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG GLC43 4Matic Coupe ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8J = AMG GLC63 4Matic Coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8K = AMG GLC63 S 4Matic Coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''X254:'''<br> following KM in pos. 4-5: *4G = GLC300 2wd ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLC300 4Matic ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5G = GLC350e 4Matic ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG GLC43 4Matic ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GLC63 S E Performance 4Matic ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''C254:'''<br> following KJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG GLC43 4Matic Coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GLC63 S E Performance 4Matic Coupe ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''W163:'''<br> following AB in pos. 4-5: *54 = ML320 ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *57 = ML350 ['03-'05] (3.7-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *72 = ML430 ['99-'01] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = ML55 AMG ['00-'03] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *75 = ML500 ['02-'05] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''W164:'''<br> following BB in pos. 4-5: *22 = ML320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = ML320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = ML350 Bluetec ['10-'11] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *56 = ML350 2wd ['09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5G = ML350 2wd ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *86 = ML350 4Matic ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8G = ML350 4Matic ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = ML500 ['06-'07] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = ML550 ['08-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7C = ML550 ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *77 = ML63 AMG ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = ML63 AMG ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *9F = ML450 Hybrid 4Matic ['10-'11] (2-Mode Hybrid: 3.5-liter Atkinson-cycle M272 90° V6 + 2 electric motors, Nickel–metal hydride battery) '''W166:'''<br> following DA in pos. 4-5: *2E = ML350 Bluetec ['12-'14 & '15 in Canada], GLE350d [Canada only: '16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *0E = ML250 Bluetec ['15], GLE300d ['16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5J = ML350 2wd ['13-'15], GLE350 2wd ['16-'18] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *5H = ML350 4Matic ['12-'15], GLE350 4Matic ['16-'18] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *5G = ML400 4Matic ['15], GLE400 4Matic ['16-'17 & '19, Canada only: '18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6D = GLE550e 4Matic ['16-'18] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6E = GLE450 AMG Sport 4Matic [Canada only: '16], AMG GLE43 4Matic ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = ML550 ['12-'14 & '15 in Canada], GLE550 [Canada only: '16-'19] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = ML63 AMG ['12-'15], AMG GLE63 ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = AMG GLE63 S ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''C292:'''<br> following ED in pos. 4-5: *2E = GLE350d Coupe [Canada only: '16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *6E = GLE450 AMG Sport 4Matic Coupe ['16], AMG GLE43 4Matic Coupe ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7F = AMG GLE63 S Coupe ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''W167:'''<br> following FB in pos. 4-5: *4J = GLE350 2wd ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *4K = GLE350 4Matic ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *4E = GLE350 2wd ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4F = GLE350 4Matic ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4G = GLE450e 4Matic ['24-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = GLE450 ['20-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GLE53 ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8G = GLE580 ['20-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8F = GLE580 ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLE63 S ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C167:'''<br> following FD in pos. 4-5: *5K = GLE450 Coupe [Canada only: '22-'24, US & Canada: '25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GLE53 Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLE63 S Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X294:'''<br> following GM in pos. 4-5: *2B = EQE350+ SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 288 hp) *1C = EQE350 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) *2C = EQE500 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 402 hp) *5D = AMG EQE 4Matic+ SUV ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 617 hp) '''V251:'''<br> following CB in pos. 4-5: *22 = R320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = R320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = R350 Bluetec ['10-'12 & '13 in Canada] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *56 = R350 2wd ['08] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *65 = R350 4Matic ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *6F = R350 4Matic ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = R350 4Matic ['12 & '13 in Canada] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *75 = R500 ['06-'07] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = R63 AMG ['07] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''X164:'''<br> following BF in pos. 4-5: *22 = GL320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = GL320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = GL350 Bluetec ['10-'12] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *71 = GL450 ['07-'09] (4.7-liter M273 V8) *7B = GL450 ['10-'12] (4.7-liter M273 V8) *86 = GL550 ['08-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *8G = GL550 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter M273 V8) '''X166:'''<br> following DF in pos. 4-5: *2E = GL350 Bluetec ['13-'16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *7C = GL450 ['13-'14] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8 - detuned version) *6E = GL450 ['15-'16], GLS450 ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = GL550 ['13-'16], GLS550 ['17-'19] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = GL63 AMG ['13-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = AMG GLS63 ['17-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''X167:'''<br> following FF in pos. 4-5: *5K = GLS450 ['20-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8G = GLS580 ['20-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8F = GLS580 ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = Mercedes-Maybach GLS600 ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLS63 4MATIC+ ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X296:'''<br> following DM in pos. 4-5: *2D = EQS450+ SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 355 hp) *2E = EQS450 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 355 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 536 hp) '''Z296:'''<br> following DX in pos. 4-5: *5F = Mercedes-Maybach EQS680 4Matic SUV ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 649 hp) '''W463 (1st gen.):'''<br> *49 = G500 ['02-'08] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *37 = G550 ['09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *3H = G550 ['10-'15] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *3K = G550 ['16-'18] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *5F = G550 4x4² ['17-'18] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *46 = G55 AMG ['03-'04] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *71 = G55 AMG ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *7B = G55 AMG ['10-'11] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *7D = G63 AMG ['13-'18] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = G65 AMG ['16-'18] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''W463 (2nd gen.):'''<br> following YC in pos. 4-5: *6B = G550 ['19-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7H = AMG G63 ['19-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8A = AMG G63 4x4² ['22-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W465:'''<br> following WH in pos. 4-5: *1A = G550 ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5A = AMG G63 ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''N465:'''<br> following WM in pos. 4-5: *0A = G580 with EQ Technology ['25-] (battery-electric, 4 motors, 4wd, 579 hp) ===Position 8=== Passenger cars - Restraint system: * A 3-point seat belts for outboard passengers, center rear lap belt * B seat belt + emergency pretensioners for front passenger seat & driver-side front airbag * C seat belt + emergency pretensioners for both front seats * D seat belt + emergency pretensioners for both front seats, driver-side front air bag and knee bolster * E seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear lap belt (SL-Class does not have rear seats) * F seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt (SL-Class & SLK-Class do not have rear seats) ['96-'98 210-series E-class sedan, '98-'99 210-series E-class wagon, '96- R129 SL-Class, '98- R170 SLK-Class] * G seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear lap belt (CL-Class & CLK-Class do not have center rear seat position) ['97-'99 140-series S-class, '98-'00 202-series C-Class, '98-'02 208-series CLK-Class coupe, '99-'03 208-series CLK-Class convertible] * H seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, front to rear side curtain airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt ['99 210-series E-Class sedan] * J seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, front to rear side curtain airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt ['00- 210-series E-Class, '00- 220-series S-Class, '00- 215-series CL-Class, '01- 203-series C-Class, '03- 209-series CLK-Class coupe] SUVs - GVWR ('98-'09): * E = Class E: 6001-7000 lbs. ('98-'09 M-Class, '02-'09 G-Class, '06-'09 R-Class, '07-'09 GL-Class) SUVs - Restraint system & GVWR ('10-): ===Position 9, Check Digit=== [[Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Check digit |Check digit]] ===Position 10, Model Year: === [[Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Model year|Model year]] ===Position 11, Production Plant:=== * A-D: Sindelfingen, Germany * E: Sindelfingen, Germany (through 2000) * E: Juiz de Fora, Minas Gerais, Brazil (from 2001) * E: Mishawaka, Indiana, US (AM General plant) ('16-'17 R-Class for China) * F-H: Bremen, Germany * J, K: Rastatt, Germany * L: Pekan, Pahang, Malaysia (HICOM Automotive Manufacturers plant) * M: Woking, England, UK (SLR McLaren) (McLaren Automotive plant) * N, P: Kecskemet, Hungary * R, S: East London, South Africa * T: Osnabrück, Germany (Karmann plant) * U: Sindelfingen, Germany * V: Uusikaupunki, Finland (Valmet Automotive plant) * W: Aguascalientes, Mexico (COMPAS plant) * X: Graz, Austria (Magna Steyr plant) * 1: Pune, Maharashtra, India For 4JG and 55S: * A, B, U: Vance, Alabama, US ===Positions 12–17, Serial Number=== ==Commercial Vehicles== Position 1-3 * WDB - Daimler-Benz AG, DaimlerChrysler AG, Daimler AG * VSA - Mercedes-Benz Espana SA (1st gen. Vito/V-Class - W638) * WDF - DaimlerChrysler AG, Daimler AG (Citan, Vito/V-Class & X-Class) * W1T - Daimler AG (Daimler Truck Holding AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz truck) * W1V - Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz van) Position 4–6, Model *414 - Vaneo *415 - Mark 1 Citan *420 - Mark 2 Citan *447 - Mark 3 Vito *470 - X-Class *638 - Mark 1 Vito *639 - Mark 2 Vito *670 - Vario *901 - Sprinter T1N *902 - Sprinter T1N *903 - Sprinter T1N *904 - Sprinter T1N *905 - Sprinter T1N *906 - Sprinter NCV3 *907 - Sprinter VS30 (RWD) *910 - Sprinter VS30 (FWD) *930 - Actros Rigids *933 - Actros MP2 concrete mixer *934 - Actros MP2 tractor *944 - Axor Tractor *950 - Axor Rigids / Actros Mk1 Rigids *952 - Axor *954 - Actros Mk1 Tractor *956 - Econic *963 - NEW ACTROS MP4 (Common-Rail engine) / Antos *964 - NEW ACTROS MP4 (Common-Rail engine) / Arocs *967 - Atego *970 - Atego *972 - Atego *976 - Atego Fire Position 7–9, Weight and Length code Position 10, Drive indicator *1 Left hand drive *2 Right hand drive Position 11, Plant code * E: Buenos Aires, Argentina * G: Barcelona, Spain (Nissan plant) (X-Class pickup) * N: Ludwigsfelde, Germany * P, R, S: Dusseldorf, Germany * T: Ladson, South Carolina, US * U: Maubeuge, France (Renault plant) (Citan, T-Class, EQT) * V: Worth, Germany * 3: Vitoria, Spain * 4: Vitoria, Spain (When Position 1-3 is W1V) * 4: Worth, Germany * 5: Dusseldorf, Germany * 9: Ludwigsfelde, Germany Position 12–17, Serial Number Position 18, Check Digit ==External links== Online [http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz Vito decoder] WDB1260251A336981 {{BookCat}} jr33ojj33707iaw6d1j28l7nzk6g9k7 4520881 4520876 2025-07-01T22:16:16Z JustTheFacts33 3434282 /* Positions 6–7, Model within the series: */ 4520881 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Warning}}{{clear}} Mercedes-Benz uses the following VIN formats: (Note) This chart is not applicable to Mercedes-Benz products made for markets other than North America. European/World market cars use a different system for encoding VIN numbers. ==1960-1980== Position 1-3 - chassis code (e.g. 107, 116, 123, etc.) Position 4-6 - model type (e.g. 024, 032, 033, 036, 044, 045, etc.) Position 7 - 1=LH Drive (made in Germany), 2=RH Drive (made in Germany), 5=LH Drive CKD, 6=RH Drive CKD (Complete Knocked Down, assembled outside Germany)1 Position 8 - 0=Manual transmission, 1=Hydraulic clutch, 2= Automatic transmission 2 (Alphabetics indicate Plant of Manufacture i.e.: A = Sindelfingen) Position 9-14 - Construction serial number 10704312006193 ==Passenger Vehicles 1981-== ===Positions 1–3, World Manufacturer Identifier:=== * WDB Daimler-Benz AG (DaimlerChrysler after 1998) (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz or Maybach passenger car) * WDC DaimlerChrysler AG (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * WDD DaimlerChrysler AG (Daimler AG after 2007) (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) * W1K Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) * W1N Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * 4JG Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (Mercedes-Benz SUV) * 55S Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (Mercedes-Benz passenger car) ===Position 4, Model or Series:=== * A W123 300-Class * B R107 SL-Class * B C107 SLC-Class * C W126/C126 S-Class * D W201 190-Class * E W124 300-Class/E-Class * F R129 SL-Class * G W140/C140 S-Class, C140 CL-Class * H W202 C-Class * J W210 E-Class * K R170 SLK-Class * L C208/A208 CLK-Class * N W220 S-Class * P C215 CL-Class * R W203 C-Class * S R230 SL-Class * T C209/A209 CLK-Class * U W211 E-Class * W R171 SLK-Class *---------------------------------- * A C199/R199/Z199 SLR McLaren * D C219 CLS-Class * E C216 CL-Class * F W245 B-Class (Canada only) * G W204 C-Class * H W212/S212 E-Class sedan/wagon * J R231 SL-Class * K C207/A207 E-Class coupe/convertible * L C218 CLS-Class * M W246 B-Class (Canada only) * N W221 S-Class * P R172 SLK-Class/SLC-Class * R C197/R197 SLS AMG * S C117 CLA-Class * U W222 S-Class sedan * V W240 Maybach 57/62 * V N242 B-Class Electric * W W205 C-Class * X C217/A217 S-Class coupe/convertible * Y C190/R190 AMG GT coupe/roadster * Z W213/S213/X213 E-Class sedan/wagon/All-Terrain wagon * 1 C238/A238 E-Class coupe/convertible * 2 C257 CLS-Class * 3 V177 A-Class sedan * 3 W177 A-Class hatchback (Canada only) * 5 C118 CLA-Class * 6 W223 S-Class sedan * 7 X290 AMG GT 4-door coupe *---------------------------------- * A W206 C-Class * C V297 EQS-Class sedan * E V295 EQE-Class sedan * L W214/X214 E-Class sedan/All-Terrain wagon * M C236/A236 CLE-Class coupe/convertible * R C192 AMG GT coupe * V R232 SL-Class *---------------------------------- * A W163 M-Class * B W164 M-Class * B X164 GL-Class * C W251 R-Class * D W166 M-Class/GLE-Class * D X166 GL-Class/GLS-Class * D X296 EQS-Class SUV * E C292 GLE-Class Coupe * F W167/C167 GLE-Class * F X167 GLS-Class * G X204 GLK-Class * 0 X253/C253 GLC-Class * G X294 EQE-Class SUV * K X254/C254 GLC-Class * T X156 GLA-Class * Y W463 G-Class * W W465 G-Class * 4 H247 GLA-Class * 4 X247 GLB-Class * 9 X243 EQB-Class ===Position 5, Body Style:=== Passenger Cars: * B = Long Body * F = Sedan ('96+ E-Class, '01+ C-Class, '06 S-Class [S350], Maybach 57) * F = 5-door hatchback (Canada only: '19-'22 A-Class) * G = Sedan Long Wheelbase ('00+ S-Class, Maybach 62) * G = Sedan ('19-'22 A-Class sedan) * H = Wagon ('98-'09, '11- E-Class wagon, '02-'05 C-Class wagon, Canada only: '19-'21 C-Class wagon) * H = "Sedan" [5-door hatchback/compact minivan] ('06-'11, '13-'19 B-Class [gas engine] - Canada only) * J = 2-door Coupe ('98-'09 CLK-Class Coupe, '12-'15, '17-'23 C-Class coupe, '10-'23 E-Class coupe, '24- CLE-Class coupe, '00-'14 CL-Class, '15-'21 S-Class coupe, '05-'07 SLR McLaren coupe, '11-'15 SLS AMG coupe, '16-'21, '24- AMG GT coupe) * J = 4-door Coupe ('06-'23 CLS-Class, '14- CLA-Class) * K = Cabriolet/Roadster ('99-'09 CLK-Class Cabriolet, '17-'23 C-Class Cabriolet, '11-'23 E-Class Cabriolet, '24- CLE-Class Cabriolet, '17-'21 S-Class Cabriolet, '98-'16 SLK-Class, '17-'20 SLC-Class, '03+ SL-Class, '08-'09 SLR McLaren roadster, '12-'15 SLS AMG roadster, '18-'21 AMG GT roadster) * N = "Coupe" [3-door hatchback] ('02-'05 C-Class Sport Coupe) * P = "Sedan" [5-door hatchback/compact minivan] (B-Class Electric) * X = 4-door Coupe [5-door hatchback] ('19- AMG GT 4-door Coupe) SUVs: * A = 4-door MPV ('12-'15 M-Class, '16-'19 GLE-Class wagon) * B = 4-door MPV ('98-'11 M-Class) * B = 4-door MPV ('20-' GLE-Class wagon) * B = 4-door MPV ('06-'13 R-Class) * C = 4-door MPV ('10-'24 G-Class) * D = 4-door MPV ('16-'19, '21- GLE-Class Coupe) * F = 4-door MPV ('07-'16 GL-Class, '17- GLS-Class) * G = 4-door MPV ('10-'15 GLK-Class, '16-'22 GLC-Class wagon) * G = 4-door MPV ('15-'20 GLA-Class) * H = 4-door MPV ('25- G550, G63 AMG) * J = 4-door MPV ('17- GLC-Class Coupe) * M = 4-door MPV ('20- GLB-Class, '22- EQB-Class) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- GLC-Class wagon) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- EQE-Class SUV) * M = 4-door MPV ('23- EQS-Class SUV) * M = 4-door MPV ('25- G580 EQ [EV]) * N = 4-door MPV ('21- GLA-Class) * R = 4-door MPV ('02-'09 G-Class) On older models, this indicated the engine type, through much of the 1990s and into the 2000's for some models: * A = Gasoline (190 Class '84-'93, C-Class '94-'00, 300 Class '81, '86-'93, E-Class '94-'95, S-Class '81-'99, CL-Class '98-'99, SL-Class '81-'02, SLC '81) * B = Diesel (190 Class '84-'89, 300 Class '81-'85, '87, '90-'93, E-Class '95, S-Class '81-'87, '90-'95) * D = 4Matic Gasoline ('90-'93 300E 4Matic, 300TE 4Matic) * M = AMG Gasoline ('95-'97 C36 AMG only) ===Positions 6–7, Model within the series:=== '''V177:'''<br> following 3G in pos. 4-5: *4E = A220 sedan ['19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4F = A220 4Matic sedan ['19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG A35 4Matic sedan ['20-'21 & in Canada: '22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) '''W177:'''<br> following 3F in pos. 4-5: *4G = A250 hatchback [Canada only: '19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = A250 4Matic hatchback [Canada only: '19-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG A35 4Matic hatchback [Canada only: '20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) '''W245:'''<br> following FH in pos. 4-5: *33 = B200 [Canada only: '06-'09] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve M266.980 I4 *3D = B200 [Canada only: '10-'11] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve M266.980 I4 *34 = B200 Turbo [Canada only: '06-'09] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve turbo M266.980 I4 *3E = B200 Turbo [Canada only: '10-'11] 2.0-liter SOHC 8-valve turbo M266.980 I4 *8G = B-Class F-Cell (hydrogen fuel cell) '''W246:'''<br> following MH in pos. 4-5: *4E = B250 [Canada only: '13-'19] 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve turbo M270 I4 *4G = B250 4Matic [Canada only: '15-'19] 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve turbo M270 I4 '''N242:'''<br> following VP in pos. 4-5: *9A = B-Class Electric Drive ['14-'15], B250e ['16-'17] (Tesla front electric motor, Lithium-ion battery pack, fwd, 177 hp) '''C117:'''<br> following SJ in pos. 4-5: *4E = CLA250 sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *4G = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *5C = CLA45 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI AMG M133 I4) '''C118:'''<br> following 5J in pos. 4-5: *4G = CLA250 sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = CLA250 sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = CLA250 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG CLA35 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG CLA35 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5D = AMG CLA45 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) *5E = AMG CLA45 S 4Matic sedan ['24-'25] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) '''W201:'''<br> following DA in pos. 4-5: *24 = 190E 2.3 ['84-'86] (2.3-liter SOHC, 8 valve M102 I4) *28 = 190E 2.3 ['87-'88, '91-'93] (2.3-liter SOHC, 8 valve M102 I4) *29 = 190E 2.6 ['87-'93] (2.6-liter M103 I6) *34 = 190E 2.3-16 ['86-'87] (2.3-liter DOHC, 16 valve M102 I4) following DB in pos. 4-5: *22 = 190D 2.2 ['84-'85] (2.2-liter OM601 diesel I4) *26 = 190D 2.5 ['86-'89] (2.5-liter OM602 diesel I5) *28 = 190D 2.5 Turbo ['87] (2.5-liter OM602 turbodiesel I5) '''W202:'''<br> following HA in pos. 4-5: *22 = C220 ['94-'96] (2.2-liter M111 I4) *23 = C230 ['97-'98] (2.3-liter M111 I4) *24 = C230 Kompressor ['99-'00] (2.3-liter supercharged M111 I4) *28 = C280 ['94-'97] (2.8-liter M104 I6) *29 = C280 ['98-'00] (2.8-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *33 = C43 AMG ['98-'00] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113.944 V8) following HM in pos. 4-5: *36 = C36 AMG ['95-'97] (3.6-liter M104 AMG I6) '''W203/S203/CL203:'''<br> following RF in pos. 4-5: *40 = C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan ['03-'05] (1.8-liter supercharged M271 I4) *52 = C230 Sport Sedan ['06-'07] (2.5-liter M272 90° V6) *54 = C280 sedan ['06-'07] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = C350 sedan ['06-'07] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *61 = C240 sedan ['01-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *64 = C320 sedan ['01-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *65 = C32 AMG sedan ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve supercharged M112 90° V6) *76 = C55 AMG ['05-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *81 = C240 4Matic sedan ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *84 = C320 4Matic sedan ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *87 = C350 4Matic sedan ['06-'07] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *92 = C280 4Matic sedan ['06-'07] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) following RH in pos. 4-5: *61 = C240 wagon ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *64 = C320 wagon ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *81 = C240 4Matic wagon ['03-'05] (2.6-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *84 = C320 4Matic wagon ['03-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) following RN in pos. 4-5: *47 = C230 Kompressor Sport Coupe ['02] (2.3-liter supercharged M111 I4) *40 = C230 Kompressor Sport Coupe ['03-'05] (1.8-liter supercharged M271 I4) *64 = C320 Sport Coupe ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''W204/C204:'''<br> following GF in pos. 4-5: *4H = C250 sedan ['12-'14] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *54 = C300 sedan ['08-'09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *5E = C300 sedan ['10-'11] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = C350 sedan ['08-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5G = C350 sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = C350 sedan ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *77 = C63 AMG sedan ['08-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = C63 AMG sedan ['10-'14], C63 AMG Edition 507 ['14] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *81 = C300 4Matic sedan ['08-'09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *8B = C300 4Matic sedan ['10-'12] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *8A = C300 4Matic sedan ['13-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 - detuned version) following GJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = C250 coupe ['12-'15] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *5H = C350 coupe ['12-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *7H = C63 AMG coupe ['12-'15], C63 AMG Black Series coupe ['12-'13], C63 AMG Edition 507 ['14-'15] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *8J = C350 4Matic coupe ['12-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) '''W205/S205/C205/A205:'''<br> following WF in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 sedan ['15-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic sedan ['15-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4H = C350e sedan ['16-'18] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8D = C300 sedan ['19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic sedan ['19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6G = C400 4Matic sedan ['15] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6E = C450 AMG Sport 4Matic sedan ['16], AMG C43 4Matic sedan ['17-'21] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 sedan ['15-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S sedan ['15-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following WH in pos. 4-5: *4K = C300 4Matic wagon [Canada: '18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic wagon [Canada: '19-'21] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic wagon [Canada: '19-'21] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) following WJ in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 coupe ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic coupe ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = C300 coupe ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic coupe ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic coupe ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 coupe ['17-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S coupe ['17-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following WK in pos. 4-5: *4J = C300 convertible ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = C300 4Matic convertible ['17-'18] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = C300 convertible ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = C300 4Matic convertible ['19-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG C43 4Matic convertible ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8G = AMG C63 convertible ['17-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8H = AMG C63 S convertible ['17-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W206:'''<br> following AF in pos. 4-5: *4G = C300 sedan ['22-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = C300 4Matic sedan ['22-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG C43 4Matic+ sedan ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG C63 S E Performance 4Matic sedan ['24-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''W123/S123/C123:'''<br> following AA in pos. 4-5: *33 = 280E ['81] (2.7-liter DOHC, 12-valve M110.984 I6) *53 = 280CE ['81] (2.7-liter DOHC, 12-valve M110.984 I6) following AB in pos. 4-5: *23 = 240D ['81-'83] (2.4-liter OM616 diesel I4) *30 = 300D ['81] (3.0-liter OM617 diesel I5) *33 = 300D Turbodiesel ['82-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *50 = 300CD ['81] (3.0-liter OM617 diesel I5) *53 = 300CD Turbodiesel ['82-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *93 = 300TD Turbodiesel ['81-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) '''W124/S124/C124/A124:'''<br> following EA in pos. 4-5: *26 = 260E ['87-'89], 300E 2.6 ['90-'92] (2.6-liter M103 I6) *28 = 300E 2.8 ['93] (2.8-liter M104 I6) *30 = 300E ['86-'92] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *32 = 300E ['93], E320 sedan ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *34 = 400E ['92-'93], E420 sedan ['94-'95] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *36 = 500E ['92-'93], E500 sedan ['94] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *50 = 300CE ['88-'89] (3.0-liter SOHC, 12 valve M103 I6) *51 = 300CE ['90-'92] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *52 = 300CE coupe ['93], E320 coupe ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *66 = 300CE convertible ['93], E320 convertible ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *90 = 300TE ['88-'92] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *92 = 300TE ['93], E320 wagon ['94-'95] (3.2-liter M104 I6) following EB in pos. 4-5: *28 = 300D 2.5 Turbo ['90-'93] (2.5-liter OM602 turbodiesel I5) *31 = E300 Diesel ['95] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 diesel I6) *33 = 300D Turbo ['87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *93 = 300TD Turbo ['87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) following ED in pos. 4-5: *30 = 300E 4Matic ['90-'93] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *90 = 300TE 4Matic ['90-'93] (3.0-liter M103 I6) '''W210/S210:'''<br> following JF in pos. 4-5: *20 = E300 Diesel ['96-'97] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 diesel I6) *25 = E300 Turbodiesel ['98-'99] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM606 turbodiesel I6) *55 = E320 ['96-'97] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *65 = E320 sedan ['98-'02] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *72 = E420 ['97] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *70 = E430 ['98-'02] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = E55 AMG ['99-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic sedan ['98-'02] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E430 4Matic ['00-'02] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) following JH in pos. 4-5: *65 = E320 wagon ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *82 = E320 4Matic wagon ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''W211/S211:'''<br> following UF in pos. 4-5: *26 = E320 CDI sedan ['05-'06] (3.2-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM648 turbodiesel I6) *22 = E320 Bluetec sedan ['07-'09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *65 = E320 sedan ['03-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = E350 sedan ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *70 = E500 sedan ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = E550 sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = E55 AMG sedan ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = E63 AMG sedan ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic sedan ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E500 4Matic sedan ['04-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *87 = E350 4Matic sedan ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *90 = E550 4Matic sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) following UH in pos. 4-5: *65 = E320 wagon ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = E350 wagon ['06] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *76 = E55 AMG wagon ['05-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = E63 AMG wagon ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *82 = E320 4Matic wagon ['04-'05] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *83 = E500 4Matic wagon ['04-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *87 = E350 4Matic wagon ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) '''W212/S212:'''<br> following HF in pos. 4-5: *2E = E350 Bluetec sedan ['11-'13] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *0E = E250 Bluetec sedan ['14-'16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5G = E350 sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 sedan ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7H = E63 AMG sedan ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7E = E63 AMG sedan ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = E63 AMG S 4Matic sedan ['14-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8B = E300 4Matic sedan [Canada only: '12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 - detuned version) *8H = E350 4Matic sedan ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = E350 4Matic sedan ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *9A = E550 4Matic sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *9B = E550 4Matic sedan ['12-'14, Canada only: '15-'16] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9C = E63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'15] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *9F = E400 Hybrid sedan ['13-'15] (Mild Hybrid: 3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *9H = E250 Bluetec 4Matic sedan ['14-'16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve turbodiesel I4) following HH in pos. 4-5: *8H = E350 4Matic wagon ['11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = E350 4Matic wagon ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic wagon [Canada only: '15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7E = E63 AMG wagon ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = E63 AMG S 4Matic wagon ['14-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''W213/S213:'''<br> following ZF in pos. 4-5: *4J = E300 sedan ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = E300 4Matic sedan ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = E350 sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = E350 4Matic sedan ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6G = E400 4Matic sedan ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic sedan ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5K = E450 4Matic sedan ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6E = AMG E43 4Matic sedan ['17-'18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic sedan ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG E63 S 4Matic sedan ['18-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) following ZH in pos. 4-5: *6G = E400 4Matic wagon ['17-'18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic wagon ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6A = E450 4Matic All-Terrain wagon ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG E63 S 4Matic wagon ['18-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W214/S214:'''<br> following LF in pos. 4-5: *4G = E350 sedan ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = E350 4Matic sedan ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = E450 4Matic sedan ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6D = AMG E53 4Matic+ Hybrid sedan ['25-] (PHEV: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following LH in pos. 4-5: *6F = E450 4Matic All-Terrain wagon ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C219:'''<br> following DJ in pos. 4-5: *75 = CLS500 sedan ['06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLS550 sedan ['07-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7C = CLS550 sedan ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLS55 AMG sedan ['06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *77 = CLS63 AMG sedan ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = CLS63 AMG sedan ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''C218:'''<br> following LJ in pos. 4-5: *6F = CLS400 sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = CLS400 4Matic sedan ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = CLS550 sedan ['12-'18] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = CLS63 AMG sedan ['12-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7G = CLS63 AMG S 4Matic sedan ['14-'18] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *9B = CLS550 4Matic sedan ['12-'18] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9C = CLS63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''C257:'''<br> following 2J in pos. 4-5: *5J = CLS450 sedan ['19-'21] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = CLS450 4Matic sedan ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG CLS53 4Matic sedan ['19-'21] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X290:'''<br> following 7X in pos. 4-5: *5K = AMG GT43 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GT53 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8J = AMG GT63 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-'21, '23-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8K = AMG GT63 S 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['19-'21, '23] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT63 S E Performance 4Matic+ 4-Door Coupe ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''V295:'''<br> following EG in pos. 4-5: *2B = EQE350+ sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 288 hp) *1C = EQE350 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) *2C = EQE500 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 402 hp) *5D = AMG EQE 4Matic+ sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 617 hp) '''W126/V126//C126:'''<br> following CA in pos. 4-5: *24 = 300SE ['88-'91] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *25 = 300SEL ['88-'91] (3.0-liter M103 I6) *32 = 380SE ['84-'85] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *33 = 380SEL ['81-'83] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *35 = 420SEL ['86-'91] (4.2-liter M116 V8) *37 = 500SEL ['84-'85] (5.0-liter M117 V8) *39 = 560SEL ['86-'91] (5.5-liter M117 V8) *43 = 380SEC ['82-'83] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *44 = 500SEC ['84-'85] (5.0-liter M117 V8) *45 = 560SEC ['86-'91] (5.5-liter M117 V8) following CB in pos. 4-5: *20 = 300SD Turbodiesel ['81-'85] (3.0-liter OM617 turbodiesel I5) *25 = 300SDL Turbodiesel ['86-'87] (3.0-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *34 = 350SD Turbodiesel ['91] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) *35 = 350SDL Turbodiesel ['90-'91] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) '''W140/V140/C140:'''<br> following GA in pos. 4-5: *32 = 300SE ['92-'93], S320 sedan SWB ['94-'99] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *33 = S320 sedan LWB ['95-'99] (3.2-liter M104 I6) *42 = 400SE ['92] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *43 = 400SEL ['93], S420 ['94-'99] (4.2-liter M119 V8) *51 = 500SEL ['92-'93], S500 sedan ['94-'99] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *57 = 600SEL ['92-'93], S600 sedan ['94-'99] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) *70 = 500SEC ['93], S500 coupe ['94-'97], CL500 ['98-'99] (5.0-liter M119 V8) *76 = 600SEC ['93], S600 coupe ['94-'97], CL600 ['98-'99] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) following GB in pos. 4-5: *34 = 300SD Turbodiesel ['92-'93], S350 Turbodiesel ['94-'95] (3.4-liter OM603 turbodiesel I6) '''V220:'''<br> following NG in pos. 4-5: *70 = S430 ['00-'06] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *73 = S55 AMG ['01-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = S55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *75 = S500 ['00-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *78 = S600 ['01-'02] (5.8-liter SOHC, 36-valve M137 V12) *76 = S600 ['03-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = S65 AMG ['06] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *83 = S430 4Matic ['03-'06] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *84 = S500 4Matic ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''W220:'''<br> following NF in pos. 4-5: *67 = S350 ['06] (3.7-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) '''C215:'''<br> following PJ in pos. 4-5: *73 = CL55 AMG ['01-'02] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CL55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *75 = CL500 ['00-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *78 = CL600 ['01-'02] (5.8-liter SOHC, 36-valve M137 V12) *76 = CL600 ['03-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = CL65 AMG ['05-'06] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) '''V221:'''<br> following NG in pos. 4-5: *71 = S550 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7B = S550 ['10-'11] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7D = S550 ['12-'13] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *76 = S600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *7G = S600 ['10-'13] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = S63 AMG ['08-09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7H = S63 AMG ['10] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7E = S63 AMG ['11-'13] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *79 = S65 AMG ['07-09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = S65 AMG ['10-'13] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *8D = S350 Bluetec 4Matic ['12-'13] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *86 = S550 4Matic ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *8G = S550 4Matic ['10-'11] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *9E = S550 4Matic ['12-'13] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *9F = S400 Hybrid ['10-'13] (Mild Hybrid: 3.5-liter M272 90° Atkinson-cycle V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C216:'''<br> following EJ in pos. 4-5: *71 = CL550 ['07-'08] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *76 = CL600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *7G = CL600 ['10-'14] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = CL63 AMG ['08-'09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7H = CL63 AMG ['10] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7E = CL63 AMG ['11-'14] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *79 = CL65 AMG ['08-'09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = CL65 AMG ['10-'14] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *86 = CL550 4Matic ['09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *8G = CL550 4Matic ['10] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *9E = CL550 4Matic ['11-'14] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) '''V222:'''<br> following UG in pos. 4-5: *6D = S550 Plug-in Hybrid ['15], S550e ['16-'17] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7D = S560e ['19-'20] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6G = S450 sedan ['18-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6E = S450 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8C = S550 sedan ['14-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8D = S560 sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *8F = S550 4Matic sedan ['14-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = S560 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['14-'17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7G = S600 sedan ['15-'17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M277 V12) *7K = S65 AMG sedan ['15-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''X222:'''<br> following UX in pos. 4-5: *8F = Mercedes-Maybach S550 4Matic sedan ['17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = Mercedes-Maybach S560 4Matic sedan ['18-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7G = Mercedes-Maybach S600 sedan ['16-'17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M277 V12) *8A = Mercedes-Maybach S650 sedan ['18-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''C217:'''<br> following XJ in pos. 4-5: *8F = S550 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8G = S560 4Matic coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = S65 AMG coupe ['15-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''A217:'''<br> following XK in pos. 4-5: *8C = S550 convertible ['17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8D = S560 convertible ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7J = S63 AMG 4Matic convertible ['17] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *8J = S63 AMG 4Matic convertible ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7K = S65 AMG convertible ['17-'20] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) *7K = Mercedes-Maybach S650 convertible ['17] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 AMG V12) '''V223:'''<br> following 6G in pos. 4-5: *6D = S500 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6K = S580e 4Matic sedan ['23-] (PHEV: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7G = S580 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8C = AMG S63 E Performance 4Matic+ ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''Z223:'''<br> following 6X in pos. 4-5: *7G = Mercedes-Maybach S580 4Matic sedan ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *7K = Mercedes-Maybach S680 4Matic sedan ['22-] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''V297:'''<br> following CG in pos. 4-5: *2D = EQS450+ sedan ['22-'23] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 329 hp) *2D = EQS450+ sedan ['24-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 355 hp) *2E = EQS450 4Matic sedan ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 355 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic sedan ['22-'23] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 516 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic sedan ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 536 hp) *5F = AMG EQS 4Matic+ sedan ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 649 hp) '''W240:'''<br> following VF in pos. 4-5: *78 = Maybach 57 ['04-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *7J = Maybach 57 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *79 = Maybach 57S ['06-'09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7K = Maybach 57S ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 57S Zeppelin ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 57S ['11-'12] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) '''V240:'''<br> following VG in pos. 4-5: *78 = Maybach 62 ['04-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *7J = Maybach 62 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.950 V12) *79 = Maybach 62S ['07-'09], 62S Landaulet ('09) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7K = Maybach 62S ['10], 62S Landaulet ('10) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 62S Zeppelin ['10] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) *7H = Maybach 62S ['11-'12], 62S Landaulet ('11-'12) (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M285.980 V12) '''C208/A208:'''<br> following LJ in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['98-'02 coupe] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *70 = CLK430 ['99-'02 coupe] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CLK55 AMG ['01-'02 coupe] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) following LK in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['99-'03 convertible] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *70 = CLK430 ['00-'03 convertible] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = CLK55 AMG ['02 convertible] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''C209/A209:'''<br> following TJ in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['03-'05 coupe] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = CLK350 ['06-'09 coupe] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = CLK500 ['03-'06 coupe] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLK550 ['07-'09 coupe] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLK55 AMG ['03-'05 coupe] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = CLK63 AMG Black Series ['08 coupe] (6.2-liter M156 V8) following TK in pos. 4-5: *65 = CLK320 ['04-'05 convertible] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *56 = CLK350 ['06-'09 convertible] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = CLK500 ['04-'06 convertible] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = CLK550 ['07-'09 convertible] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *76 = CLK55 AMG ['04-'06 convertible] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = CLK63 AMG ['07-'08 convertible] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''C207/A207:'''<br> following KJ in pos. 4-5: *5G = E350 coupe ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 coupe ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 coupe ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E400 4Matic coupe ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 coupe ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7D = E550 coupe ['12-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *8J = E350 4Matic coupe ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) following KK in pos. 4-5: *5G = E350 convertible ['11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5K = E350 convertible ['12-'14] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6F = E400 convertible ['15-'17] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7C = E550 convertible ['11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7D = E550 convertible ['12-'17] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) '''C238/A238:'''<br> following 1J in pos. 4-5: *6F = E400 coupe ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = E400 4Matic coupe ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E450 coupe ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic coupe ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5J = E450 coupe ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = E450 4Matic coupe ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic coupe ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following 1K in pos. 4-5: *6F = E400 convertible ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = E400 4Matic convertible ['18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6H = E450 convertible ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6J = E450 4Matic convertible ['19-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *5J = E450 convertible ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = E450 4Matic convertible ['21-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG E53 4Matic convertible ['19-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C236/A236:'''<br> following MJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = CLE300 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = CLE450 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6C = AMG CLE53 4Matic coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) following MK in pos. 4-5: *4H = CLE300 4Matic convertible ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = CLE450 4Matic convertible ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6C = AMG CLE53 4Matic convertible ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''R170:'''<br> following KK in pos. 4-5: *47 = SLK230 Kompressor ['98-'00] (2.3-liter M111.973 supercharged I4) *49 = SLK230 Kompressor ['01-'04] (2.3-liter M111.983 supercharged I4) *65 = SLK320 ['01-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *66 = SLK32 AMG ['02-'04] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 supercharged 90° V6) '''R171:'''<br> following WK in pos. 4-5: *54 = SLK280 ['06-'08], SLK300 ['09] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *5E = SLK300 ['10-'11] (3.0-liter M272 90° V6) *56 = SLK350 ['05-'08] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *58 = SLK350 ['09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5J = SLK350 ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *73 = SLK55 AMG ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *7D = SLK55 AMG ['10] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''R172:'''<br> following PK in pos. 4-5: *4H = SLK250 ['12-'15] (1.8-liter turbocharged GDI M271 I4) *3J = SLK300 ['16], SLC300 ['17-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *5H = SLK350 ['12-'16] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = SLC43 AMG ['17-'20] (3.0-liter twin-turbocharged M276 60° GDI V6) *7F = SLK55 AMG ['12-'16] (5.5-liter M152 GDI V8) '''R107:'''<br> following BA in pos. 4-5: *45 = 380SL ['81-'85] (3.8-liter M116 V8) *48 = 560SL ['86-'89] (5.5-liter M117 V8) '''C107:'''<br> following BA in pos. 4-5: *25 = 380SLC ['81] (3.8-liter M116 V8) '''R129:'''<br> following FA in pos. 4-5: *61 = 300SL ['90-'93] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *63 = SL320 ['94-'97] (3.2-liter DOHC, 24 valve M104 I6) *66 = 500SL ['90-'92] (5.0-liter DOHC, 32-valve M119 V8) *67 = 500SL ['93], SL500 ['94-'98] (5.0-liter DOHC, 32-valve M119 V8) *68 = SL500 ['99-'02] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *76 = 600SL ['93], SL600 ['94-'02] (6.0-liter DOHC, 48-valve M120 V12) '''R230:'''<br> following SK in pos. 4-5: *75 = SL500 ['03-'06] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *71 = SL550 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *7B = SL550 ['11-'12] (5.5-liter DOHC, 32-valve M273 V8) *74 = SL55 AMG ['03-'06] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *72 = SL55 AMG ['07-'08] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *70 = SL63 AMG ['09] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *7A = SL63 AMG ['11-'12] (6.2-liter DOHC, 32-valve M156 V8) *76 = SL600 ['04-'06] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *77 = SL600 ['07-'09] (5.5-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 V12) *79 = SL65 AMG ['05-'09], SL65 AMG Black Series ['09] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) *7K = SL65 AMG ['11] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M275 AMG V12) '''R231:'''<br> following JK in pos. 4-5: *6F = SL400 ['15-'16] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6G = SL450 ['17-'20] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = SL550 ['13-'20] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = SL63 AMG ['13-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7K = SL65 AMG ['13-'18] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''R232:'''<br> following VK in pos. 4-5: *5A = AMG SL43 ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 2 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG SL55 4Matic+ ['22-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8B = AMG SL63 4Matic+ ['22-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8C = AMG SL63 S E Performance 4Matic+ ['24-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C199/R199:'''<br> following AJ in pos. 4-5: *76 = SLR McLaren coupe ['05-'07] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M155 V8) following AK in pos. 4-5: *76 = SLR McLaren roadster ['08-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M155 V8) '''C197/R197:'''<br> following RJ in pos. 4-5: *7H = SLS AMG coupe ['11-'12] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7J = SLS AMG GT coupe ['13-'15] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7H = SLS AMG Black Series coupe ['14] (6.2-liter M159 V8) following RK in pos. 4-5: *7H = SLS AMG roadster ['12] (6.2-liter M159 V8) *7J = SLS AMG GT roadster ['13-'15] (6.2-liter M159 V8) '''C190:'''<br> following YJ in pos. 4-5: *7H = AMG GT 2-d coupe (base model) ['17-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT 2-d coupe (base model) ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *AJ = AMG GT 2-d coupe S ['16] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7J = AMG GT 2-d coupe S ['16-'19] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8A = AMG GT 2-d coupe C ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d coupe R ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d coupe R Pro ['20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8B = AMG GT 2-d coupe Black Series ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 LS2 GDI flat-plane crank V8) '''R190:'''<br> following YK in pos. 4-5: *7H = AMG GT roadster (base model) ['17-'20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT roadster (base model) ['21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *8A = AMG GT roadster C ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) *7K = AMG GT 2-d roadster R ['20] (4.0-liter twin turbo M178 GDI V8) '''C192:'''<br> following RJ in pos. 4-5: *4C = AMG GT43 coupe ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 2 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GT55 4Matic+ coupe ['24-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *7J = AMG GT63 4Matic+ coupe ['24-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8C = AMG GT63 S E Performance 4Matic+ coupe ['25-] (PHEV: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8J = AMG GT63 Pro 4Matic+ coupe ['25-] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''X156:'''<br> following TG in pos. 4-5: *4E = GLA250 ['15-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *4G = GLA250 4Matic ['15-'20] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M270 I4) *5C = GLA45 AMG 4Matic ['15-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI AMG M133 I4) '''H247:'''<br> following 4N in pos. 4-5: *4G = GLA250 ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = GLA250 ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLA250 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = GLA250 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG GLA35 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG GLA35 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5D = AMG GLA45 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection AMG M139 I4) '''X247:'''<br> following 4M in pos. 4-5: *4G = GLB250 ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4G = GLB250 ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLB250 4Matic ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *4H = GLB250 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5B = AMG GLB35 4Matic ['21-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4) *5B = AMG GLB35 4Matic ['24-'25] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M260 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X243:'''<br> following 9M in pos. 4-5: *0C = EQB250+ ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 front motor, Fwd, 188 hp) *0K = EQB300 4Matic ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 225 hp) *1D = EQB350 4Matic ['22-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) '''X204:'''<br> following GG in pos. 4-5: *0E = GLK250 Bluetec 4Matic ['13-'15] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5G = GLK350 2wd ['10-'12] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = GLK350 2wd ['13-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *8H = GLK350 4Matic ['10-'12] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8J = GLK350 4Matic ['13-'15] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) '''X253:'''<br> following 0G in pos. 4-5: *4J = GLC300 2wd ['16-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *4K = GLC300 4Matic ['16-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8D = GLC300 2wd ['20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *8E = GLC300 4Matic ['20-'22] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *5E = GLC350e 4Matic ['18-'19] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + 114 hp electric motor, 8.7 kWh lithium-ion battery) *5D = GLC350e 4Matic ['20] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4 + 121 hp electric motor, 13.5 kWh lithium-ion battery) *6E = AMG GLC43 4Matic ['17-'22] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8J = AMG GLC63 4Matic ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''C253:'''<br> following 0J in pos. 4-5: *4K = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['17-'19] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M274 I4) *8E = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *6E = AMG GLC43 4Matic Coupe ['17-'23] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *8J = AMG GLC63 4Matic Coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8K = AMG GLC63 S 4Matic Coupe ['18-'21] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''X254:'''<br> following KM in pos. 4-5: *4G = GLC300 2wd ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4H = GLC300 4Matic ['23-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5G = GLC350e 4Matic ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG GLC43 4Matic ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GLC63 S E Performance 4Matic ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''C254:'''<br> following KJ in pos. 4-5: *4H = GLC300 4Matic Coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = AMG GLC43 4Matic Coupe ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8A = AMG GLC63 S E Performance 4Matic Coupe ['25-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged port/direct injection M139 I4 + 3 electric motors, lithium-ion battery) '''W163:'''<br> following AB in pos. 4-5: *54 = ML320 ['98-'03] (3.2-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *57 = ML350 ['03-'05] (3.7-liter SOHC, 18-valve M112 90° V6) *72 = ML430 ['99-'01] (4.3-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *74 = ML55 AMG ['00-'03] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *75 = ML500 ['02-'05] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) '''W164:'''<br> following BB in pos. 4-5: *22 = ML320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = ML320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = ML350 Bluetec ['10-'11] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *56 = ML350 2wd ['09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5G = ML350 2wd ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *86 = ML350 4Matic ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *8G = ML350 4Matic ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *75 = ML500 ['06-'07] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *72 = ML550 ['08-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *7C = ML550 ['10-'11] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *77 = ML63 AMG ['07-'09] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *7H = ML63 AMG ['10-'11] (6.2-liter M156 V8) *9F = ML450 Hybrid 4Matic ['10-'11] (2-Mode Hybrid: 3.5-liter Atkinson-cycle M272 90° V6 + 2 electric motors, Nickel–metal hydride battery) '''W166:'''<br> following DA in pos. 4-5: *2E = ML350 Bluetec ['12-'14 & '15 in Canada], GLE350d [Canada only: '16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *0E = ML250 Bluetec ['15], GLE300d ['16] (2.1-liter DOHC, 16 valve OM651 turbodiesel I4) *5J = ML350 2wd ['13-'15], GLE350 2wd ['16-'18] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *5H = ML350 4Matic ['12-'15], GLE350 4Matic ['16-'18] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *5G = ML400 4Matic ['15], GLE400 4Matic ['16-'17 & '19, Canada only: '18] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *6D = GLE550e 4Matic ['16-'18] (PHEV: 3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6E = GLE450 AMG Sport 4Matic [Canada only: '16], AMG GLE43 4Matic ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = ML550 ['12-'14 & '15 in Canada], GLE550 [Canada only: '16-'19] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = ML63 AMG ['12-'15], AMG GLE63 ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = AMG GLE63 S ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''C292:'''<br> following ED in pos. 4-5: *2E = GLE350d Coupe [Canada only: '16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *6E = GLE450 AMG Sport 4Matic Coupe ['16], AMG GLE43 4Matic Coupe ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7F = AMG GLE63 S Coupe ['16-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''W167:'''<br> following FB in pos. 4-5: *4J = GLE350 2wd ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *4K = GLE350 4Matic ['20-'23] (2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M264 I4) *4E = GLE350 2wd ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4F = GLE350 4Matic ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *4G = GLE450e 4Matic ['24-] (PHEV: 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI M254 I4 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5K = GLE450 ['20-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GLE53 ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8G = GLE580 ['20-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8F = GLE580 ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLE63 S ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''C167:'''<br> following FD in pos. 4-5: *5K = GLE450 Coupe [Canada only: '22-'24, US & Canada: '25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *6B = AMG GLE53 Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLE63 S Coupe ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X294:'''<br> following GM in pos. 4-5: *2B = EQE350+ SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 288 hp) *1C = EQE350 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 288 hp) *2C = EQE500 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 402 hp) *5D = AMG EQE 4Matic+ SUV ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 617 hp) '''V251:'''<br> following CB in pos. 4-5: *22 = R320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = R320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = R350 Bluetec ['10-'12 & '13 in Canada] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *56 = R350 2wd ['08] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *65 = R350 4Matic ['06-'09] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *6F = R350 4Matic ['10-'11] (3.5-liter M272 90° V6) *5H = R350 4Matic ['12 & '13 in Canada] (3.5-liter M276 60° GDI V6) *75 = R500 ['06-'07] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *77 = R63 AMG ['07] (6.2-liter M156 V8) '''X164:'''<br> following BF in pos. 4-5: *22 = GL320 CDI ['07-'08] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *25 = GL320 Bluetec ['09] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *2F = GL350 Bluetec ['10-'12] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *71 = GL450 ['07-'09] (4.7-liter M273 V8) *7B = GL450 ['10-'12] (4.7-liter M273 V8) *86 = GL550 ['08-'09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *8G = GL550 ['10-'12] (5.5-liter M273 V8) '''X166:'''<br> following DF in pos. 4-5: *2E = GL350 Bluetec ['13-'16] (3.0-liter DOHC, 24 valve OM642 72° turbodiesel V6) *7C = GL450 ['13-'14] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8 - detuned version) *6E = GL450 ['15-'16], GLS450 ['17-'19] (3.0-liter twin turbo M276 60° GDI V6) *7D = GL550 ['13-'16], GLS550 ['17-'19] (4.7-liter twin turbo M278 GDI V8) *7E = GL63 AMG ['13-'16] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = AMG GLS63 ['17-'19] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) '''X167:'''<br> following FF in pos. 4-5: *5K = GLS450 ['20-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8G = GLS580 ['20-'23] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8F = GLS580 ['24-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8H = Mercedes-Maybach GLS600 ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *8K = AMG GLS63 4MATIC+ ['21-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''X296:'''<br> following DM in pos. 4-5: *2D = EQS450+ SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 1 rear motor, Rwd, 355 hp) *2E = EQS450 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 355 hp) *4E = EQS580 4Matic SUV ['23-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 536 hp) '''Z296:'''<br> following DX in pos. 4-5: *5F = Mercedes-Maybach EQS680 4Matic SUV ['24-] (battery-electric, 2 motors, 4wd, 649 hp) '''W463 (1st gen.):'''<br> following YR in pos. 4-5 ('02-'09) or following YC in pos. 4-5 ('10-'18): *49 = G500 ['02-'08] (5.0-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *37 = G550 ['09] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *3H = G550 ['10-'15] (5.5-liter M273 V8) *3K = G550 ['16-'18] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *5F = G550 4x4² ['17-'18] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *46 = G55 AMG ['03-'04] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve M113 V8) *71 = G55 AMG ['05-'09] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *7B = G55 AMG ['10-'11] (5.4-liter SOHC, 24-valve supercharged M113K V8) *7D = G63 AMG ['13-'18] (5.5-liter twin turbo M157 GDI V8) *7F = G65 AMG ['16-'18] (6.0-liter SOHC, 36-valve twin turbo M279 V12) '''W463 (2nd gen.):'''<br> following YC in pos. 4-5: *6B = G550 ['19-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M176 GDI V8) *7H = AMG G63 ['19-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) *8A = AMG G63 4x4² ['22-'24] (4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8) '''W465:'''<br> following WH in pos. 4-5: *1A = G550 ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 3.0-liter turbo/e-supercharged M256 GDI I6 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) *5A = AMG G63 ['25-] (EQ Boost 48v Mild Hybrid: 4.0-liter twin turbo M177 GDI V8 + electric motor, lithium-ion battery) '''N465:'''<br> following WM in pos. 4-5: *0A = G580 with EQ Technology ['25-] (battery-electric, 4 motors, 4wd, 579 hp) ===Position 8=== Passenger cars - Restraint system: * A 3-point seat belts for outboard passengers, center rear lap belt * B seat belt + emergency pretensioners for front passenger seat & driver-side front airbag * C seat belt + emergency pretensioners for both front seats * D seat belt + emergency pretensioners for both front seats, driver-side front air bag and knee bolster * E seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear lap belt (SL-Class does not have rear seats) * F seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt (SL-Class & SLK-Class do not have rear seats) ['96-'98 210-series E-class sedan, '98-'99 210-series E-class wagon, '96- R129 SL-Class, '98- R170 SLK-Class] * G seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear lap belt (CL-Class & CLK-Class do not have center rear seat position) ['97-'99 140-series S-class, '98-'00 202-series C-Class, '98-'02 208-series CLK-Class coupe, '99-'03 208-series CLK-Class convertible] * H seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, front to rear side curtain airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt ['99 210-series E-Class sedan] * J seat belt + emergency pretensioners, driver and passenger front air bags and knee bolsters, front door-mounted side-impact airbags, front to rear side curtain airbags, outboard rear 3-point belts, center rear 3-point belt ['00- 210-series E-Class, '00- 220-series S-Class, '00- 215-series CL-Class, '01- 203-series C-Class, '03- 209-series CLK-Class coupe] SUVs - GVWR ('98-'09): * E = Class E: 6001-7000 lbs. ('98-'09 M-Class, '02-'09 G-Class, '06-'09 R-Class, '07-'09 GL-Class) SUVs - Restraint system & GVWR ('10-): ===Position 9, Check Digit=== [[Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Check digit |Check digit]] ===Position 10, Model Year: === [[Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN codes)/Model year|Model year]] ===Position 11, Production Plant:=== * A-D: Sindelfingen, Germany * E: Sindelfingen, Germany (through 2000) * E: Juiz de Fora, Minas Gerais, Brazil (from 2001) * E: Mishawaka, Indiana, US (AM General plant) ('16-'17 R-Class for China) * F-H: Bremen, Germany * J, K: Rastatt, Germany * L: Pekan, Pahang, Malaysia (HICOM Automotive Manufacturers plant) * M: Woking, England, UK (SLR McLaren) (McLaren Automotive plant) * N, P: Kecskemet, Hungary * R, S: East London, South Africa * T: Osnabrück, Germany (Karmann plant) * U: Sindelfingen, Germany * V: Uusikaupunki, Finland (Valmet Automotive plant) * W: Aguascalientes, Mexico (COMPAS plant) * X: Graz, Austria (Magna Steyr plant) * 1: Pune, Maharashtra, India For 4JG and 55S: * A, B, U: Vance, Alabama, US ===Positions 12–17, Serial Number=== ==Commercial Vehicles== Position 1-3 * WDB - Daimler-Benz AG, DaimlerChrysler AG, Daimler AG * VSA - Mercedes-Benz Espana SA (1st gen. Vito/V-Class - W638) * WDF - DaimlerChrysler AG, Daimler AG (Citan, Vito/V-Class & X-Class) * W1T - Daimler AG (Daimler Truck Holding AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz truck) * W1V - Daimler AG (Mercedes-Benz Group AG from 2022) (Mercedes-Benz van) Position 4–6, Model *414 - Vaneo *415 - Mark 1 Citan *420 - Mark 2 Citan *447 - Mark 3 Vito *470 - X-Class *638 - Mark 1 Vito *639 - Mark 2 Vito *670 - Vario *901 - Sprinter T1N *902 - Sprinter T1N *903 - Sprinter T1N *904 - Sprinter T1N *905 - Sprinter T1N *906 - Sprinter NCV3 *907 - Sprinter VS30 (RWD) *910 - Sprinter VS30 (FWD) *930 - Actros Rigids *933 - Actros MP2 concrete mixer *934 - Actros MP2 tractor *944 - Axor Tractor *950 - Axor Rigids / Actros Mk1 Rigids *952 - Axor *954 - Actros Mk1 Tractor *956 - Econic *963 - NEW ACTROS MP4 (Common-Rail engine) / Antos *964 - NEW ACTROS MP4 (Common-Rail engine) / Arocs *967 - Atego *970 - Atego *972 - Atego *976 - Atego Fire Position 7–9, Weight and Length code Position 10, Drive indicator *1 Left hand drive *2 Right hand drive Position 11, Plant code * E: Buenos Aires, Argentina * G: Barcelona, Spain (Nissan plant) (X-Class pickup) * N: Ludwigsfelde, Germany * P, R, S: Dusseldorf, Germany * T: Ladson, South Carolina, US * U: Maubeuge, France (Renault plant) (Citan, T-Class, EQT) * V: Worth, Germany * 3: Vitoria, Spain * 4: Vitoria, Spain (When Position 1-3 is W1V) * 4: Worth, Germany * 5: Dusseldorf, Germany * 9: Ludwigsfelde, Germany Position 12–17, Serial Number Position 18, Check Digit ==External links== Online [http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz Vito decoder] WDB1260251A336981 {{BookCat}} dg97rapkove1hm7plmg422z8cbapzbd Inorganic Chemistry/Chemical Bonding/VSEPR theory 0 152896 4520895 4511756 2025-07-01T23:32:42Z Д.Ильин 688474 img 4520895 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Valence shell electron pair repulsion (VSEPR) theory''' is a model used in chemistry to predict the geometry of individual molecules from the number of electron pairs surrounding their central atoms.<ref name="Jolly">{{cite book |last=Jolly |first=W. L. |title=Modern Inorganic Chemistry |publisher=McGraw-Hill |year=1984 |pages=[https://archive.org/details/trent_0116300649799/page/77 77–90] |isbn=978-0-07-032760-3 |url=https://archive.org/details/trent_0116300649799/page/77 }}</ref> It is also named the Gillespie-Nyholm theory after its two main developers, Ronald Gillespie and Ronald Nyholm. The premise of VSEPR is that the valence electron pairs surrounding an atom tend to repel each other and will, therefore, adopt an arrangement that minimizes this repulsion. This in turn decreases the molecule's energy and increases its stability, which determines the molecular geometry. ==History== The idea of a correlation between molecular geometry and number of valence electrons (both shared and unshared) was first presented in a Bakerian Lecture in 1940 by Nevil Sidgwick and Herbert Powell at the University of Oxford.<ref>http://rspa.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/176/965/153.abstract N.V.Sidgwick and H.M.Powell, Proc.Roy.Soc.A 176, 153–180 (1940) Bakerian Lecture. Stereochemical Types and Valency Groups</ref> In 1957 Ronald Gillespie and Ronald Sydney Nyholm at University College London refined this concept to build a more detailed theory capable of choosing between various alternative geometries.<ref>R.J.Gillespie and R.S.Nyholm, Quart.Rev. 11, 339 (1957)</ref><ref>R.J.Gillespie, J.Chem.Educ. 47, 18(1970)</ref> ==Overview== VSEPR theory is used to predict the arrangement of electron pairs around central atoms in molecules, especially simple and symmetric molecules. A central atom is defined in this theory as an atom which is bonded to two or more other atoms, while a terminal atom is bonded to only one other atom.<ref name="Petrucci" />{{rp|398}} For example in the molecule methyl isocyanate (H<sub>3</sub>C-N=C=O), the two carbons and one nitrogen are central atoms, and the three hydrogens and one oxygen are terminal atoms.<ref name="Petrucci" />{{rp|416}} The geometry of the central atoms and their non-bonding electron pairs in turn determine the geometry of the larger whole molecule. The number of electron pairs in the valence shell of a central atom is determined after drawing the Lewis structure of the molecule, and expanding it to show all bonding groups and lone pairs of electrons.<ref name=Petrucci>{{cite book|last1=Petrucci |first1=R. H. |first2=Harwood |last2=W. S. |first3=Herring |last3=F. G. |title=General Chemistry: Principles and Modern Applications |publisher=Prentice-Hall |edition=8th |year=2002 |isbn=978-0-13-014329-7}}</ref>{{rp|410–417}} In VSEPR theory, a double bond or triple bond is treated as a single bonding group.<ref name=Petrucci/> The sum of the number of atoms bonded to a central atom and the number of lone pairs formed by its nonbonding valence electrons is known as the central atom's steric number. The electron pairs (or groups if multiple bonds are present) are assumed to lie on the surface of a sphere centered on the central atom and tend to occupy positions that minimize their mutual repulsions by maximizing the distance between them.<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|410–417}}<ref name=Miessler>{{cite book|first1=G. L. |last1=Miessler |first2=D. A. |last2=Tarr |title=Inorganic Chemistry |edition=2nd |publisher=Prentice-Hall |year=1999 |pages=54–62 |isbn=978-0-13-841891-5}}</ref> The number of electron pairs (or groups), therefore, determines the overall geometry that they will adopt. For example, when there are two electron pairs surrounding the central atom, their mutual repulsion is minimal when they lie at opposite poles of the sphere. Therefore, the central atom is predicted to adopt a ''linear'' geometry. If there are 3 electron pairs surrounding the central atom, their repulsion is minimized by placing them at the vertices of an equilateral triangle centered on the atom. Therefore, the predicted geometry is ''trigonal''. Likewise, for 4 electron pairs, the optimal arrangement is ''tetrahedral''.<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|410–417}} As a tool in predicting the geometry adopted with a given number of electron pairs, an often used physical demonstration of the principle of minimal electron pair repulsion utilizes inflated balloons. Through handling, balloons acquire a slight surface electrostatic charge that results in the adoption of roughly the same geometries when they are tied together at their stems as the corresponding number of electron pairs. For example, five balloons tied together adopt the ''trigonal bipyramidal'' geometry, just as do the five bonding pairs of a PCl<sub>5</sub> molecule. ===Steric number=== [[Image:Sulfur-tetrafluoride-2D-dimensions.svg|thumb|Sulfur tetrafluoride has a steric number of 5.]] The steric number of a central atom in a molecule is the number of atoms bonded to that central atom, called its coordination number, plus the number of lone pairs of valence electrons on the central atom.<ref>{{cite book|first1=G. L. |last1=Miessler |first2=D. A. |last2=Tarr |title=Inorganic Chemistry |edition=2nd |publisher=Prentice-Hall |year=1999 |pages=55 |isbn=978-0-13-841891-5}}</ref> In the molecule SF<sub>4</sub>, for example, the central sulfur atom has four ligands; the coordination number of sulfur is four. In addition to the four ligands, sulfur also has one lone pair in this molecule. Thus, the steric number is 4 + 1 = 5. ===Degree of repulsion=== The overall geometry is further refined by distinguishing between ''bonding'' and ''nonbonding'' electron pairs. The bonding electron pair shared in a sigma bond with an adjacent atom lies further from the central atom than a nonbonding (lone) pair of that atom, which is held close to its positively charged nucleus. VSEPR theory therefore views repulsion by the lone pair to be greater than the repulsion by a bonding pair. As such, when a molecule has 2 interactions with different degrees of repulsion, VSEPR theory predicts the structure where lone pairs occupy positions that allow them to experience less repulsion. Lone pair–lone pair (lp–lp) repulsions are considered stronger than lone pair–bonding pair (lp–bp) repulsions, which in turn are considered stronger than bonding pair–bonding pair (bp–bp) repulsions, distinctions that then guide decisions about overall geometry when 2 or more non-equivalent positions are possible.<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|410–417}} For instance, when 5 valence electron pairs surround a central atom, they adopt a ''trigonal bipyramidal'' molecular geometry with two collinear ''axial'' positions and three ''equatorial'' positions. An electron pair in an axial position has three close equatorial neighbors only 90° away and a fourth much farther at 180°, while an equatorial electron pair has only two adjacent pairs at 90° and two at 120°. The repulsion from the close neighbors at 90° is more important, so that the axial positions experience more repulsion than the equatorial positions; hence, when there are lone pairs, they tend to occupy equatorial positions as shown in the diagrams of the next section for steric number five.<ref name=Miessler/> The difference between lone pairs and bonding pairs may also be used to rationalize deviations from idealized geometries. For example, the H<sub>2</sub>O molecule has four electron pairs in its valence shell: two lone pairs and two bond pairs. The four electron pairs are spread so as to point roughly towards the apices of a tetrahedron. However, the bond angle between the two O–H bonds is only 104.5°, rather than the 109.5° of a regular tetrahedron, because the two lone pairs (whose density or probability envelopes lie closer to the oxygen nucleus) exert a greater mutual repulsion than the two bond pairs.<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|410–417}}<ref name=Miessler/> A bond of higher bond order also exerts greater repulsion since the pi bond electrons contribute.<ref name=Miessler/> For example in isobutylene, (H<sub>3</sub>C)<sub>2</sub>C=CH<sub>2</sub>, the H<sub>3</sub>C−C=C angle (124°) is larger than the H<sub>3</sub>C−C−CH<sub>3</sub> angle (111.5°). However, in the carbonate ion, {{chem|CO|3|2−}}, all three C−O bonds are equivalent with angles of 120° due to resonance. ==AXE method== The "AXE method" of electron counting is commonly used when applying the VSEPR theory. The electron pairs around a central atom are represented by a formula AX<sub>n</sub>E<sub>m</sub>, where ''A'' represents the central atom and always has an implied subscript one. Each ''X'' represents a ligand (an atom bonded to A). Each ''E'' represents a ''lone pair'' of electrons on the central atom.<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|410–417}} The total number of ''X'' and ''E'' is known as the steric number. For example in a molecule AX<sub>3</sub>E<sub>2</sub>, the atom A has a steric number of 5. When the substituent (X) atoms are not all the same, the geometry is still approximately valid, but the bond angles may be slightly different from the ones where all the outside atoms are the same. For example, the double-bond carbons in alkenes like C<sub>2</sub>H<sub>4</sub> are AX<sub>3</sub>E<sub>0</sub>, but the bond angles are not all exactly 120°. Likewise, SOCl<sub>2</sub> is AX<sub>3</sub>E<sub>1</sub>, but because the X substituents are not identical, the X–A–X angles are not all equal. Based on the steric number and distribution of ''X''s and ''E''s, VSEPR theory makes the predictions in the following tables. ===Main-group elements=== For main-group elements, there are stereochemically active lone pairs ''E'' whose number can vary between 0 to 3. Note that the geometries are named according to the atomic positions only and not the electron arrangement. For example, the description of AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>1</sub> as a bent molecule means that the three atoms AX<sub>2</sub> are not in one straight line, although the lone pair helps to determine the geometry. {| class=wikitable style="margin:auto;" !Steric <br> number !Molecular geometry<ref name=PetrucTable>{{cite book|last1=Petrucci |first1=R. H. |first2=Harwood |last2=W. S. |first3=Herring |last3=F. G. |title=General Chemistry: Principles and Modern Applications |publisher=Prentice-Hall |edition=8th |year=2002 |pages=413–414 (Table 11.1) |isbn=978-0-13-014329-7}}</ref> <br> 0 lone pairs !Molecular geometry<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|413–414}}<br> 1 lone pair !Molecular geometry<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|413–414}}<br> 2 lone pairs !Molecular geometry<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|413–414}}<br> 3 lone pairs |- !2 | [[File:AX2E0-2D.svg|128px]] <br> <div class="center">Linear</div> || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; |- !3 | [[File:AX3E0-side-2D.png|128px]] <br> <div class="center">Trigonal planar</div> || [[File:AX2E1-2D.png|128px]] <br> <div class="center">Bent</div> ||&nbsp; ||&nbsp; |- !4 | [[File:AX4E0-2D.svg|128px]] <br> <div class="center">Tetrahedral</div> || [[File:AX3E1-2D.svg|128px]] <br> <div class="center">Trigonal pyramidal</div> || [[File:AX2E2-2D.png|128px]] <br> <div class="center">Bent</div> ||&nbsp; |- !5 | [[File:AX5E0-2D.png|128px]] <br> <div class="center">Trigonal bipyramidal</div> || [[File:AX4E1-2D.png|128px]] <br> <div class="center">Seesaw</div> || [[File:AX3E2-2D.png|128px]] <br> <div class="center">T-shaped</div> || [[File:AX2E3-2D.png|128px]] <br> <div class="center">Linear</div> |- !6 | [[File:AX6E0-2D.svg|128px]] <br> <div class="center">Octahedral</div> || [[File:AX5E1-2D-1.svg|128px]] <br> <div class="center">Square pyramidal</div> || [[File:AX4E2-2D.svg|128px]] <br> <div class="center">Square planar</div> || &nbsp; |- !7 | [[File:AX7E0-2D.png|128px]] <br> <div class="center">Pentagonal bipyramidal</div> ||[[File:AX6E1-2D.png|128px]] <br> <div class="center">Pentagonal pyramidal</div> ||[[File:AX5E2-2D.png|128px]] <br> <div class="center">Pentagonal planar</div> || &nbsp; |- !8 | <br> <div class="center">Square antiprismatic<br> </div> || <br> &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; |} {{Clear}} {| class="wikitable" style="margin:auto;" |- ! Molecule <br>type ! Shape<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|413–414}} ! Electron arrangement<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|413–414}} <br> <small>including lone pairs, shown in pale yellow</small> ! Geometry<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|413–414}} <br> <small>excluding lone pairs</small> ! Examples |- ! AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | Linear | [[File:AX2E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[File:Linear-3D-balls.png|100px]] | BeCl<sub>2</sub>,<ref name="Jolly"/> CO<sub>2</sub><ref name=Miessler/> |- ! AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>1</sub> | Bent | [[File:AX2E1-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[File:Bent-3D-balls.png|100px]] | {{chem|NO|2|-}},<ref name=Jolly/> SO<sub>2</sub>,<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|413–414}} O<sub>3</sub>,<ref name=Jolly/> CCl<sub>2</sub> |- ! AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>2</sub> | Bent | [[File:AX2E2-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[File:Bent-3D-balls.png|100px]] | H<sub>2</sub>O,<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|413–414}} OF<sub>2</sub><ref name=Housecroft/>{{rp|448}} |- ! AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>3</sub> | Linear | [[File:AX2E3-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[File:Linear-3D-balls.png|100px]] | XeF<sub>2</sub>,<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|413–414}} {{chem|I|3|-}},<ref name=Housecroft/>{{rp|483}} XeCl<sub>2</sub> |- ! AX<sub>3</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | Trigonal planar | [[File:AX3E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[File:Trigonal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | BF<sub>3</sub>,<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|413–414}} {{chem|CO|3|2-}},<ref name=Housecroft/>{{rp|368}} {{chem|NO|3|-}},<ref name=Jolly/> SO<sub>3</sub><ref name=Miessler/> |- ! AX<sub>3</sub>E<sub>1</sub> | Trigonal pyramidal | [[File:AX3E1-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[File:Pyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | NH<sub>3</sub>,<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|413–414}} PCl<sub>3</sub><ref name=Housecroft/>{{rp|407}} |- ! AX<sub>3</sub>E<sub>2</sub> | T-shaped | [[File:AX3E2-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[File:T-shaped-3D-balls.png|100px]] | ClF<sub>3</sub>,<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|413–414}} BrF<sub>3</sub><ref name=Housecroft/>{{rp|481}} |- ! AX<sub>4</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | Tetrahedral | [[File:AX4E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[File:Tetrahedral-3D-balls.png|100px]] | CH<sub>4</sub>,<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|413–414}} {{chem|PO|4|3-}}, {{chem|SO|4|2-}},<ref name=Miessler/> {{chem|ClO|4|-}},<ref name=Jolly/> XeO<sub>4</sub><ref name=Housecroft/>{{rp|499}} |- ! AX<sub>4</sub>E<sub>1</sub> | Seesaw or disphenoidal | [[File:AX4E1-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[File:Seesaw-3D-balls.png|100px]] | SF<sub>4</sub><ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|413–414}}<ref name=Housecroft/>{{rp|45}} |- ! AX<sub>4</sub>E<sub>2</sub> | Square planar | [[File:AX4E2-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[File:Square-planar-3D-balls.png|100px]] | XeF<sub>4</sub><ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|413–414}} |- ! AX<sub>5</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | Trigonal bipyramidal | [[File:Trigonal-bipyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[File:Trigonal-bipyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | PCl<sub>5</sub><ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|413–414}} |- ! AX<sub>5</sub>E<sub>1</sub> | Square pyramidal | [[File:AX5E1-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[File:Square-pyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | ClF<sub>5</sub>,<ref name=Housecroft/>{{rp|481}} BrF<sub>5</sub>,<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|413–414}} XeOF<sub>4</sub><ref name=Miessler/> |- ! AX<sub>5</sub>E<sub>2</sub> | Pentagonal planar | [[File:AX5E2-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[File:Pentagonal-planar-3D-balls.png|100px]] | {{chem|XeF|5|-}}<ref name=Housecroft/>{{rp|498}} |- ! AX<sub>6</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | Octahedral | [[File:AX6E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[File:Octahedral-3D-balls.png|100px]] | SF<sub>6</sub><ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|413–414}} |- ! AX<sub>6</sub>E<sub>1</sub> | Pentagonal pyramidal | [[File:AX6E1-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[File:Pentagonal-pyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | {{chem|XeOF|5|-}},<ref name=Baran2000/> {{chem|IOF|5|2-}}<ref name=Baran2000>{{Cite journal| first1 = E. | title = Mean amplitudes of vibration of the pentagonal pyramidal {{chem|XeOF|5|-}} and {{chem|IOF|5|2-}} anions | journal = J. Fluorine Chem. | volume = 101| last1 = Baran | pages = 61–63 | year = 2000 | doi = 10.1016/S0022-1139(99)00194-3}}</ref> |- ! AX<sub>7</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | Pentagonal bipyramidal<ref name=Miessler/> | [[File:AX7E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[File:Pentagonal-bipyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | IF<sub>7</sub><ref name=Miessler/> |- ! AX<sub>8</sub>E<sub>0</sub> | Square antiprismatic<ref name=Miessler/> | [[File:AX8E0-3D-balls.png|100px]] | [[File:Square-antiprismatic-3D-balls.png|100px]] | {{chem|IF|8|-}} |} ===Transition metals (Kepert model)=== The lone pairs on transition metal atoms are usually stereochemically inactive, meaning that their presence does not change the molecular geometry. For example, the hexaaquo complexes M(H<sub>2</sub>O)<sub>6</sub> are all octahedral for M = V<sup>3+</sup>, Mn<sup>3+</sup>, Co<sup>3+</sup>, Ni<sup>2+</sup> and Zn<sup>2+</sup>, despite the fact that the electronic configurations of the central metal ion are d<sup>2</sup>, d<sup>4</sup>, d<sup>6</sup>, d<sup>8</sup> and d<sup>10</sup> respectively.<ref name=Housecroft/>{{rp|542}} The Kepert model ignores all lone pairs on transition metal atoms, so that the geometry around all such atoms corresponds to the VSEPR geometry for AX<sub>n</sub> with 0 lone pairs E.<ref>{{cite journal |last1=Anderson |first1=O. P. |title=Book reviews: Inorganic Stereochemistry (by David L. Kepert) |journal=Acta Crystallographica B |date=1983 |volume=39 |pages=527–528 |doi=10.1107/S0108768183002864 |url=https://journals.iucr.org/b/issues/1983/04/00/a22157/a22157.pdf |access-date=14 September 2020 |quote=based on a systematic quantitative application of the common ideas regarding electron-pair repulsion|doi-access=free }}</ref><ref name=Housecroft/>{{rp|542}} This is often written ML<sub>n</sub>, where M = metal and L = ligand. The Kepert model predicts the following geometries for coordination numbers of 2 through 9: <center> {| class="wikitable" |- ! Molecule <br>type ! Shape ! Geometry ! Examples |- ! ML<sub>2</sub> | Linear | [[File:Linear-3D-balls.png|100px]] | HgCl<sub>2</sub><ref name=Jolly/> |- ! ML<sub>3</sub> | Trigonal planar | [[File:Trigonal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | |- ! ML<sub>4</sub> | Tetrahedral | [[File:Tetrahedral-3D-balls.png|100px]] | {{chem|NiCl|4|2-}} |- ! rowspan="2"| ML<sub>5</sub> | Trigonal bipyramidal | [[File:Trigonal-bipyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | {{chem|Fe(CO)|5}} |- | Square pyramidal | [[File:Square-pyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | MnCl<sub>5</sub><sup>2−</sup> |- ! ML<sub>6</sub> | Octahedral | [[File:Octahedral-3D-balls.png|100px]] | WCl<sub>6</sub><ref name=Housecroft/>{{rp|659}} |- ! rowspan="3"| ML<sub>7</sub> | Pentagonal bipyramidal<ref name=Miessler/> | [[File:Pentagonal-bipyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | {{chem|ZrF|7|3-}} |- | Capped octahedral | [[File:Face-capped octahedron.png|100px]] | {{chem|MoF|7|-}} |- | Capped trigonal prismatic | [[File:MonocappTrigPrism.CapRightps.png|100px]] | {{chem|TaF|7|2-}} |- ! rowspan="3"| ML<sub>8</sub> | Square antiprismatic<ref name=Miessler/> | [[File:Square-antiprismatic-3D-balls.png|100px]] | {{chem|ReF|8|-}} |- | Dodecahedral | [[File:Snub disphenoid.png|100px]] | {{chem|Mo(CN)|8|4-}} |- | Bicapped trigonal prismatic | [[File:Square face bicapped trigonal prism.png|100px]] | {{chem|ZrF|8|4-}} |- ! rowspan="2"| ML<sub>9</sub> | Tricapped trigonal prismatic | [[File:AX9E0-3D-balls.png|110px]] | {{chem|ReH|9|2-}}<ref name=Housecroft/>{{rp|254}} |- | Capped square antiprismatic | [[File:Monocapped square antiprism.png|110px]] | |} </center> ==Examples== The methane molecule (CH<sub>4</sub>) is tetrahedral because there are four pairs of electrons. The four hydrogen atoms are positioned at the vertices of a tetrahedron, and the bond angle is cos<sup>−1</sup>(−{{frac|1|3}})&nbsp;≈&nbsp;109°&nbsp;28′.<ref>{{cite journal | last1 = Brittin | first1 = W. E. | year = 1945 | title = Valence Angle of the Tetrahedral Carbon Atom | journal = J. Chem. Educ. | volume = 22 | issue = 3| page = 145 | doi=10.1021/ed022p145| bibcode = 1945JChEd..22..145B }}</ref><ref>[http://maze5.net/?page_id=367 "Angle Between 2 Legs of a Tetrahedron"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20181003122307/http://maze5.net/?page_id=367 |date=2018-10-03 }} – Maze5.net</ref> This is referred to as an AX<sub>4</sub> type of molecule. As mentioned above, A represents the central atom and X represents an outer atom.<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|410–417}} The ammonia molecule (NH<sub>3</sub>) has three pairs of electrons involved in bonding, but there is a lone pair of electrons on the nitrogen atom.<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|392–393}} It is not bonded with another atom; however, it influences the overall shape through repulsions. As in methane above, there are four regions of electron density. Therefore, the overall orientation of the regions of electron density is tetrahedral. On the other hand, there are only three outer atoms. This is referred to as an AX<sub>3</sub>E type molecule because the lone pair is represented by an E.<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|410–417}} By definition, the molecular shape or geometry describes the geometric arrangement of the atomic nuclei only, which is trigonal-pyramidal for NH<sub>3</sub>.<ref name=Petrucci/>{{rp|410–417}} Steric numbers of 7 or greater are possible, but are less common. The steric number of 7 occurs in iodine heptafluoride (IF<sub>7</sub>); the base geometry for a steric number of 7 is pentagonal bipyramidal.<ref name=Miessler/> The most common geometry for a steric number of 8 is a square antiprismatic geometry.<ref name="wiberg">{{cite book| first1 = E.| last1 = Wiberg| first2 = A. F.|last2= Holleman| title = Inorganic Chemistry| publisher = Academic Press| year = 2001| isbn = 978-0-12-352651-9}}</ref>{{rp|1165}} Examples of this include the octacyanomolybdate ({{chem|Mo(CN)|8|4-}}) and octafluorozirconate ({{chem|ZrF|8|4-}}) anions.<ref name="wiberg" />{{rp|1165}} The nonahydridorhenate ion ({{chem|ReH|9|2-}}) in potassium nonahydridorhenate is a rare example of a compound with a steric number of 9, which has a tricapped trigonal prismatic geometry.<ref name=Housecroft>{{cite book|last1=Housecroft |first1=C. E. |last2=Sharpe |first2=A. G. |title=Inorganic Chemistry|edition=2nd |publisher=Pearson |date=2005 |isbn=978-0-130-39913-7}}</ref>{{rp|254}}<ref name="wiberg" /> Possible geometries for steric numbers of 10, 11, 12, or 14 are bicapped square antiprismatic (or bicapped dodecadeltahedral), octadecahedral, icosahedral, and bicapped hexagonal antiprismatic, respectively. No compounds with steric numbers this high involving monodentate ligands exist, and those involving multidentate ligands can often be analysed more simply as complexes with lower steric numbers when some multidentate ligands are treated as a unit.<ref name="wiberg" />{{rp|1165,1721}} ==Exceptions== There are groups of compounds where VSEPR fails to predict the correct geometry. ===Some AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>0</sub> molecules=== The shapes of heavier Group 14 element alkyne analogues (RM≡MR, where M = Si, Ge, Sn or Pb) have been computed to be bent.<ref>{{cite journal| title = Silicon, germanium, tin and lead analogues of acetylenes| first = Philip P.| last = Power| journal = Chem. Commun.| date = September 2003| issue = 17| pages = 2091–2101| doi = 10.1039/B212224C| pmid = 13678155}}</ref><ref>{{cite journal| title = Triple bonds between heavier Group 14 elements. A theoretical approach| first1 = Shigeru| last1 = Nagase| first2 = Kaoru| last2 = Kobayashi| first3 = Nozomi| last3 = Takagi| journal = J. Organomet. Chem.| date = 6 October 2000| volume = 11 | issue = 1–2| pages = 264–271| doi = 10.1016/S0022-328X(00)00489-7}}</ref><ref>{{cite journal| title = A Stable Compound Containing a Silicon–Silicon Triple Bond| first1 = Akira| last1 = Sekiguchi| first2 = Rei| last2 = Kinjō| first3 = Masaaki| last3 = Ichinohe| journal = Science| date = September 2004| volume = 305| issue = 5691| pages = 1755–1757| doi = 10.1126/science.1102209| pmid = 15375262| bibcode = 2004Sci...305.1755S| s2cid = 24416825| url = http://people.ok.ubc.ca/wsmcneil/339/Sci2004.pdf}}{{dead link|date=December 2017 |bot=InternetArchiveBot |fix-attempted=yes }}</ref> ===Some AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>2</sub> molecules=== One example is molecular lithium oxide, Li<sub>2</sub>O, which is linear rather than being bent, and this has been ascribed to the bonding's being in essence ionic, leading to strong repulsion between the lithium atoms.<ref>A spectroscopic determination of the bond length of the LiOLi molecule: Strong ionic bonding, D. Bellert, W. H. Breckenridge, J. Chem. Phys. 114, 2871 (2001); {{doi|10.1063/1.1349424}}</ref><br /> Another example is O(SiH<sub>3</sub>)<sub>2</sub> with an Si-O-Si angle of 144.1°, which compares to the angles in Cl<sub>2</sub>O (110.9°), (CH<sub>3</sub>)<sub>2</sub>O (111.7°)and N(CH<sub>3</sub>)<sub>3</sub> (110.9°). Gillespie's rationalisation is that the localisation of the lone pairs, and therefore their ability to repel other electron pairs, is greatest when the ligand has an electronegativity similar to, or greater than, that of the central atom.<ref name= "Gillespie&Robinson"/> When the central atom is more electronegative, as in O(SiH<sub>3</sub>)<sub>2</sub>, the lone pairs are less well-localised and have a weaker repulsive effect. This fact, combined with the stronger ligand-ligand repulsion (-SiH<sub>3</sub> is a relatively large ligand compared to the examples above), gives the larger-than-expected Si-O-Si bond angle.<ref name = "Gillespie&Robinson">Models of molecular geometry, Gillespie R. J., Robinson E.A. Chem. Soc. Rev., 2005, 34, 396–407, {{doi| 10.1039/b405359c}}</ref> ===Some AX<sub>6</sub>E<sub>1</sub> and AX<sub>8</sub>E<sub>1</sub> molecules=== [[File:Xenon-hexafluoride-3D-SF.png|200px|thumb|Xenon hexafluoride, which has a distorted octahedral geometry]] Some AX<sub>6</sub>E<sub>1</sub> molecules, e.g. xenon hexafluoride (XeF<sub>6</sub>) and the Te(IV) and Bi(III) anions, {{chem|TeCl|6|2-}}, {{chem|TeBr|6|2-}}, {{chem|BiCl|6|3-}}, {{chem|BiBr|6|3-}} and {{chem|BiI|6|3-}}, are octahedra rather than pentagonal pyramids, and the lone pair does not affect the geometry to the degree predicted by VSEPR.<ref>Wells A.F. (1984) ''Structural Inorganic Chemistry'' 5th edition Oxford Science Publications {{ISBN|0-19-855370-6}}</ref> One rationalization is that steric crowding of the ligands allows no room for the non-bonding lone pair;<ref name = "Gillespie&Robinson"/> another rationalization is the inert pair effect.<ref name="Housecroft2004">{{Housecroft2nd}}</ref> Similarly, the octafluoroxenate ion ({{chem|XeF|8|2-}}) in nitrosonium octafluoroxenate(VI)<ref name=Housecroft/>{{rp|498}}<ref name="Peterson1971">{{Cite journal | first3 = A.| first2 = H. | first4 = M.| title = Antiprismatic Coordination about Xenon: the Structure of Nitrosonium Octafluoroxenate(VI)| first1 = W.| last2 = Holloway| last3 = Coyle| volume = 173| month = | journal = Science| issue = 4003| pages = 1238–1239| issn = 0036-8075| doi = 10.1126/science.173.4003.1238| last4 = Williams| pmid = 17775218| last1 = Peterson| date = Sep 1971|bibcode = 1971Sci...173.1238P }}</ref><ref>{{cite book| title = Molecular origami: precision scale models from paper| first1 = Robert M.| last1 = Hanson| publisher = University Science Books| year = 1995| isbn = 0-935702-30-X}}</ref> is a square antiprism and not a bicapped trigonal prism (as predicted by VSEPR theory for an AX<sub>8</sub>E<sub>1</sub> molecule), despite having a lone pair. {{clear}} ===Square planar ML<sub>4</sub> complexes=== The Kepert model predicts that ML<sub>4</sub> transition metal molecules are tetrahedral in shape, and it cannot explain the formation of square planar complexes.<ref name=Housecroft/>{{rp|542}} The majority of such complexes exhibit a d<sup>8</sup> configuration as for the tetrachloroplatinate ({{chem|PtCl|4|2-}}) ion. The explanation of the shape of square planar complexes involves electronic effects and requires the use of crystal field theory.<ref name=Housecroft/>{{rp|562-4}} ===Complexes with strong d-contribution=== [[File:Hexamethyl-tungsten-3D-balls.png|200px|thumb|Hexamethyltungsten, a transition metal complex whose geometry is different from main-group coordination.]] Some transition metal complexes with low d electron count have unusual geometries, which can be ascribed to d subshell bonding interaction.<ref>{{cite journal | title = "Non-VSEPR" Structures and Bonding in d<sup>0</sup> Systems | first = Martin | last = Kaupp | journal = Angew. Chem. Int. Ed. Engl. | year = 2001 | volume = 40 | issue = 1 | pages = 3534–3565 | doi = 10.1002/1521-3773(20011001)40:19<3534::AID-ANIE3534>3.0.CO;2-#}}</ref> Gillespie found that this interaction produces bonding pairs that also occupy the respective antipodal points (ligand opposed) of the sphere.<ref>{{cite journal | title = An Electron Localization Function Study of the Geometry of d<sup>0</sup> Molecules of the Period 4 Metals Ca to Mn | first1 = Ronald J. | last1 = Gillespie | first2 = Stéphane | last2 = Noury | first3 = Julien | last3 = Pilmé | first4 = Bernard | last4 = Silvi | journal = Inorg. Chem. | year = 2004 | volume = 43 | issue = 10 | pages = 3248–3256 | doi = 10.1021/ic0354015| pmid = 15132634 }}</ref><ref name="Fiftyyears">{{cite journal | last1 = Gillespie | first1 = R. J. | year = 2008 | title = Fifty years of the VSEPR model | journal = Coord. Chem. Rev. | volume = 252 | issue = 12–14| pages = 1315–1327 | doi=10.1016/j.ccr.2007.07.007}}</ref> This phenomenon is an electronic effect resulting from the bilobed shape of the underlying sd<sup>x</sup> hybrid orbitals.<ref>{{cite journal | last1 = Landis | first1 = C. R. | last2 = Cleveland | first2 = T. | last3 = Firman | first3 = T. K. | year = 1995 | title = Making sense of the shapes of simple metal hydrides | journal = J. Am. Chem. Soc. | volume = 117 | issue = 6| pages = 1859–1860 | doi=10.1021/ja00111a036}}</ref><ref>{{cite journal | last1 = Landis | first1 = C. R. | last2 = Cleveland | first2 = T. | last3 = Firman | first3 = T. K. | year = 1996 | title = Structure of W(CH<sub>3</sub>)<sub>6</sub> | journal = Science | volume = 272 | issue = 5259| pages = 179–183 |doi=10.1126/science.272.5259.179f| doi-access = free }}</ref> The repulsion of these bonding pairs leads to a different set of shapes. <center> {| class="wikitable" |- ! Molecule type ! Shape ! Geometry ! Examples |- ! ML<sub>2</sub> | Bent | [[File:Bent-3D-balls.png|100px]] | {{chem|VO|2|+}} |- ! ML<sub>3</sub> | Trigonal pyramidal | [[File:Pyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | CrO<sub>3</sub> |- ! ML<sub>4</sub> | Tetrahedral | [[File:Tetrahedral-3D-balls.png|100px]] | TiCl<sub>4</sub><ref name=Housecroft/>{{rp|598–599}} |- ! ML<sub>5</sub> | Square pyramidal | [[File:Square-pyramidal-3D-balls.png|100px]] | Ta(CH<sub>3</sub>)<sub>5</sub><ref>{{cite journal |journal= Coord. Chem. Rev. |volume= 197 |year= 2000 |pages= 141–168 |title= Atomic orbitals, symmetry, and coordination polyhedra |first= R. Bruce |last= King | doi = 10.1016/s0010-8545(99)00226-x }}</ref> |- ! ML<sub>6</sub> | ''C<sub>3v</sub>'' Trigonal prismatic | [[File:Prismatic_TrigonalP.png|100px]] | W(CH<sub>3</sub>)<sub>6</sub><ref>{{cite journal|last1=Haalan |first1=A. |last2=Hammel |first2=A.|last3=Rydpal |first3=K. |last4=Volden |first4=H. V.|journal=J. Am. Chem. Soc.|year=1990|volume=112|pages= 4547–4549|title=The coordination geometry of gaseous hexamethyltungsten is not octahedral|doi=10.1021/ja00167a065|issue=11}}</ref> |} </center> The gas phase structures of the triatomic halides of the heavier members of group 2, (i.e., calcium, strontium and barium halides, MX<sub>2</sub>), are not linear as predicted but are bent, (approximate X–M–X angles: CaF<sub>2</sub>, 145°; SrF<sub>2</sub>, 120°; BaF<sub>2</sub>, 108°; SrCl<sub>2</sub>, 130°; BaCl<sub>2</sub>, 115°; BaBr<sub>2</sub>, 115°; BaI<sub>2</sub>, 105°).<ref name = "Greenwood">{{Greenwood&Earnshaw}}</ref> It has been proposed by Gillespie that this is also caused by bonding interaction of the ligands with the d subshell of the metal atom, thus influencing the molecular geometry.<ref name = "Gillespie&Robinson"/><ref>{{cite journal | doi = 10.1063/1.459748 | title = Ab initio model potential study of the equilibrium geometry of alkaline earth dihalides: MX<sub>2</sub> (M=Mg, Ca, Sr, Ba; X=F, Cl, Br, I) | year = 1991 | author = Seijo, Luis | journal = J. Chem. Phys. | volume = 94 | pages = 3762 | last2 = Barandiarán | first2 = Zoila | last3 = Huzinaga | first3 = Sigeru | issue = 5| bibcode = 1991JChPh..94.3762S | url = https://repositorio.uam.es/bitstream/10486/7315/1/41581_jchemphysseijo_91_jcp_94_3762.pdf | hdl = 10486/7315 | hdl-access = free }}</ref> ==Odd-electron molecules== The VSEPR theory can be extended to molecules with an odd number of electrons by treating the unpaired electron as a "half electron pair". In effect, the odd electron has an influence on the geometry which is similar to a full electron pair, but less pronounced so that the geometry may be intermediate between the molecule with a full electron pair and the molecule with one less electron pair on the central atom. For example, nitrogen dioxide (NO<sub>2</sub>) is an AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>0.5</sub> molecule, with an unpaired electron on the central nitrogen. VSEPR predicts a geometry similar to the {{chem|NO|2|-}} ion (AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>1</sub>, bent, bond angle approx. 120°) but intermediate between {{chem|NO|2|-}} and {{chem|NO|2|+}} (AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>0</sub>, linear, 180°). In fact NO<sub>2</sub> is bent with an angle of 134° which is closer to 120° than to 180°, in qualitative agreement with the theory. Similarly chlorine dioxide (ClO<sub>2</sub>, AX<sub>2</sub>E<sub>1.5</sub>) has a geometry similar to {{chem|ClO|2|-}} but intermediate between {{chem|ClO|2|-}} and {{chem|ClO|2|+}}. Finally the methyl radical (CH<sub>3</sub>) is predicted to be trigonal pyramidal like the methyl anion ({{chem|CH|3|-}}) but with a larger bond angle as in the trigonal planar methyl cation ({{chem|CH|3|+}}). However in this case the VSEPR prediction is not quite true as CH<sub>3</sub> is actually planar, although its distortion to a pyramidal geometry requires very little energy.<ref>Anslyn E.V. and Dougherty D.A., ''Modern Physical Organic Chemistry'' (University Science Books, 2006), p.57</ref> ==References== <div class="references-small"><references/></div> {{BookCat}} 6tvcawbvc6n2dhrmb20mng9xsipma1v Wikibooks:Reading room/Proposals 4 155682 4520920 4519507 2025-07-02T08:11:00Z ArchiverBot 1227662 Bot: Archiving 1 thread (older than 120 days) to [[Wikibooks:Reading room/Proposals/2025/March]] 4520920 wikitext text/x-wiki __NEWSECTIONLINK__ {{Discussion Rooms}} {{Shortcut|WB:RFC|WB:PROPOSALS}} {{TOC left<!--|limit=2-->}} Welcome to the '''Proposals reading room'''. 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I am back to suggest some more changes to Wikibooks' edit filters. {{Collapse top|Suggested changes to filter 7}} * I reduced the global edit count to less than 30 edits. * Because of [[Special:AbuseLog/302263]], I added a regex string to exclude Wikimedia-related phrases. * Instead of using <code>rcount</code>, for the http condition, I switched back to <code>count</code>, and used <code>http</code> (link phrase) and <code>lcase(added_lines)</code>. <syntaxhighlight> user_editcount < 5 & global_user_editcount < 30 & !(added_lines irlike "mediawiki|wiki(?:books|data|functions|news|quote|species|source|versity|voyage)|wiki[mp]edia|wiktionary") & count("http", lcase(added_lines)) > count("http", lcase(removed_lines)) & count("<ref", added_lines) <= count("<ref", removed_lines) </syntaxhighlight> {{Collapse bottom}} {{Collapse top|Changes to filter 44 and its disallow message}} * Instead of <code>old_size > 0</code>, I used <code>page_id != 0</code> and have placed it at the top. * For the page namespace condition, I used an <code>equals_to_any</code> condition. * Instead of only excluding reviewers, I excluded user groups and global user groups that have the <code>autopatrol</code> user right. <syntaxhighlight> page_id != 0 & /* only check on existing pages */ equals_to_any(page_namespace, 0, 102, 110) & !("autopatrol" in user_rights) & count(".wikipedia.org", added_lines) > count(".wikipedia.org", removed_lines) </syntaxhighlight> We should also modify filter 44's disallowing message. * I would suggest moving it to [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-disallowed-wikipedia-url]] to maintain consistency with the disallow messages. * I used an edit filter warning template and have made grammar changes and added a link to the edit filter false positive reports page. <syntaxhighlight> {{Edit filter warning | action = warn | friendly = yes | text = <big>'''Alert'''</big>: Books should use links to Wikipedia sparsely and only to reference technical or esoteric terms that are critical to understanding the content. Normally, you should incorporate text into the book, not links, so that the book is self contained. When linking to Wikipedia, please do not use bare URLs. Instead, replace them with '''''<nowiki>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Name</nowiki>''''' with '''<nowiki>[[w:Article Name|Article Name]]</nowiki>''' or '''<nowiki>{{w|Article Name}}</nowiki>'''. If you have received this message in error, you may [[Wikibooks:Edit filter/False positives|report it here]]. }} </syntaxhighlight> {{Collapse bottom}} Thank you. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 01:13, 27 March 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]]@[[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] what do you think? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:18, 10 April 2025 (UTC) ::I'm broadly supportive. But code for private filters shouldn't be posted publicly. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 13:29, 10 April 2025 (UTC) ::: I made sure that both of the filters I posted are not hidden from public view before adding my suggestions here. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 01:08, 29 April 2025 (UTC) ::This [[wikt:LGTM|LGTM]]. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 17:20, 26 April 2025 (UTC) m7kaoexf9gnnxbek6xrj9k3zytbu7te Chess Opening Theory/1. d4/1...Nf6/2. Nf3/2...c5 0 177417 4520901 3259486 2025-07-02T00:20:10Z TheSingingFly 3490867 Spielmann-Indian, not just any Queen's Pawn Game. 4520901 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Chess Opening Theory/Position|= |Queen's Pawn Game| |rd|nd|bd|qd|kd|bd| |rd|= |pd|pd| |pd|pd|pd|pd|pd|= | | | | | |nd| | |= | | |pd| | | | | |= | | | |pl| | | | |= | | | | | |nl| | |= |pl|pl|pl| |pl|pl|pl|pl|= |rl|nl|bl|ql|kl|bl| |rl|= }} =Spielmann-Indian Defense= In this opening, named after Austrian grandmaster Rudolf Spielmann, Black strikes at White's center with their bishop pawn, in similar fashion to the Benoni. The main response is 3. d5, amassing space in the center similar to the Benoni. Black can continue down the Benoni with 3...e6; or, they can take advantage of White's c-pawn not being on c4 yet by playing 3...b5!, the Benko Defense (sometimes referred to as the Pseudo-Benko). 3. c4 transposes into an English Opening, Symmetrical Variation. Some 1. d4 players may try to play the Catalan setup with 3. g3?; this is considered a mistake due to 3...cxd4 4. Bg2 e5!, defending their extra pawn tactically; 5. Nxe5?? runs into 5...Qa5+ with a fork, winning the knight. Some 1. d4 players as White may try to stay consistent to the London with 3. c3 or 3. e3, which are the most common responses. ==Theory table== {{Chess Opening Theory/Table}}. :'''1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 c5''' <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4"> <tr> <th></th> <th align="left">3</th> </tr> <tr> <th align="right">English, Symmetrical, Benoni Formation</th> <td>[[../../2. c4/2...c5/3. Nf3|c4]]<br>e6</td> <td>to 2.c4 c5 3.Nf3</td> </tr> <tr> <th align="right">Old Benoni</th> <td>[[/3. d5|d5]]<br>b5</td> <td></td> </tr> </table> {{ChessMid}} {{Wikipedia|Queen's Pawn Game}} * Nunn's Chess Openings. 1999. John Nunn (Editor), Graham Burgess, John Emms, Joe Gallagher. {{ISBN|1-8574-4221-0}}. * Modern Chess Openings: MCO-14. 1999. Nick de Firmian, Walter Korn. {{ISBN|0-8129-3084-3}}. {{BCO2}} {{ChessFooter}} syhiz6gev7kzfhb7lez80zo94xoe2pn K-12 School Computer Networking/Chapter 25/Case Study: Rural Hall Elementary School’s "Communications with Distance Learning" 0 178904 4520782 3268158 2025-07-01T15:38:36Z 168.235.203.236 Salm 4520782 wikitext text/x-wiki Salem == Introduction to Rural Hall Elementary School == Rural Hall Elementary School is a school serving children in Kindergarten through fifth grade located in Rural Hall, North Carolina, a small town about 12 miles away from Winston-Salem, NC (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=rural+hall+elementary&fb=1&sa=X&oi=local_group&resnum=1&ct=image). There are approximately 570 students and 61 teachers at the school, giving the school a 1:9 teacher-student ratio (http://www.publicschoolreview.com/school_ov/school_id/59377). 65% of the students are Caucasian, 28% of the students are African-American, 7% are Latino, and 1% are Asian (http://www.publicschoolreview.com/school_ov/school_id/59377). Of the entire student population, 32% are eligible for free lunch and 9% are eligible for reduced lunch (http://www.publicschoolreview.com/school_ov/school_id/59377). <br /><br /> == School Theme: Communications with Distance Learning == Rural Hall Elementary School’s mission is: “Educators, parents, and community will provide the optimum educational experiences to all children by focusing on maximum time for quality teaching and learning while developing lifelong learners and citizens of good character” (http://winstonsalem.nc.schoolwebpages.com/education/school/school.php?sectionid=110&sc_id=1182882870). Rural Hall has adopted the school-wide theme of “communications with distance learning” as the primary means by which to achieve their mission. “Telecommunications is bringing sharp changes to the educational world by electronically bringing into immediate contact many of those in education who were formerly isolated from each other by sheer geographical separation” (Taylor, 1991, p. 1), which makes implementation of a distance learning program particularly relevant and beneficial for students in small towns such as Rural Hall. <br /><br /> The “communications with distance learning” project began when Rural Hall was awarded $10,000 of “‘theme’ money” from the Forsyth County school system to implement an idea developed by the school that would supplement and enhance the school’s curriculum (McDermon, 2005, p. 2). The school used this money to purchase a Polycom Viewstation FX, which was put together with two large televisions and the school’s T-1 fiber optic line in order to conduct “IP-based video conferencing using H.323 technology” (McDermon, 2005, p. 1). <br /><br /> Although videoconferencing is central to Rural Hall’s “communications with distance learning” theme, distance learning has been meaningfully implemented across academic and extra-curricular disciplines through a wide variety of mediums, including many free or inexpensive technology platforms. <br /><br /> == “Ten Ways to Boost Learning with Technology” == The State Educational Technology Directors Association (SETDA) recently released ten recommendations to support and enhance education through technology (Stansbury, 2008, p. 1). These recommendations are: # Ensure that technology tools and resources are used continuously and seamlessly for instruction, collaboration, and assessment. # Expose all students (pre-K through 12th grade) to STEM [science, technology, engineering, and mathematics] fields and careers. # Make ongoing, sustainable professional development available to all teachers. # Use virtual learning opportunities for teachers to further their professional development, such as through online communities and education portals. # Incorporate innovative, consistent, and timely assessments into daily instruction. # Strengthen the home-school connection by using technology to communicate with parents on student progress. # Provide the necessary resources so that every community has the infrastructure to support learning with technology, including assessments and virtual learning. # Obtain societal support for education that uses technology from all stakeholders--students, parents, teachers, state and district administrators, business leaders, legislators, and local community members. # Provide federal leadership to support states and districts regarding technology's role in school reform by passing the ATTAIN Act. # Increase available funding for the e-Rate so that schools can acquire telecommunication services, internet access, internal connections, and maintenance of those connections. (Stansbury, 2008, p. 1) <br /><br /> Some of the mediums utilized by Rural Hall to incorporate technology throughout the school community and curriculum in order to boost instruction and learning outcomes include: * School Web Site * Classroom Web Pages * PBWiki * YouTube and TeacherTube * Videoconferencing * Podcasts * Blogging <br /> == School Web Site == Rural Hall Elementary School maintains extensive school web page that contains information relevant for parents, students, community members, and employees (http://winstonsalem.nc.schoolwebpages.com/education/school/school.php?sectionid=110&sc_id=1182882870). Some of the information and resources included on the site include: * Administration announcements and policies * Frequently asked questions * School-wide calendar * Classroom web pages—each page includes: * “Communications with distance learning,” including information on: * Webmaster contact info * “Hot Potatoes”—interactive web activities * Interactive videoconference schedule * Media center * School projects * Parent Teacher Association * Photo albums * Newsletter * Email directory * School fundraisers <br /> ==Classroom web pages== Every homeroom class and enrichment class in the school has its own web page hosted on the school’s website. Each classroom web page includes: * Photos * Class calendar * Class schedule * Important documents * Relevant and age-appropriate website links and internet resources <br /> =="Communications with Distance Learning" links and information== The school website includes an extensive list of links and information to support the school-wide “communications with distance learning” theme. This section of the school’s website includes information about: * Blogs produced by students, teachers, and classes * Computer lab schedule * North Carolina Computer and Technology Curriculum * “Digital Flat Stanly” project * GLOBE (“global learning and observations to benefit the environment") * Megaconference, Jr., “a project designed to give students in elementary and secondary schools around the world the opportunity to communicate, collaborate and contribute to each other's learning in real time, using advanced multi-point video conferencing technology” (http://www.megaconferencejr.org/) * North Carolina Distance Learning Award * Podcasts * Technology-related projects * Read Around the Planet * Rural Hall Elementary School News * Videoconferences * Virtual fieldtrips and teleconferences * Weather <br /> ==PBWiki== Rural Hall Elementary School has created its own school-wide PBWiki (http://ruralhallschool.pbwiki.com/). Some of the information included on Rural Hall’s PBWiki includes: * Links to blogs * Photographs of the school’s mascot (bulldog) * Class and student produced videos (http://ruralhallschool.pbwiki.com/Student+and+Classroom+Videos) * Technology how-to movies * Video conferencing references * Links to related Wikis <br /> ==YouTube and TeacherTube== YouTube and TeacherTube are utilized throughout Rural Hall to host videos that fall into two broad categories: class/student-produced videos and technology how-to videos. <br /><br /> Class/student produced videos (http://ruralhallschool.pbwiki.com/Student+and+Classroom+Videos)<br /> Topics include: ** Electing the United States President ** Fractions ** Patterns ** Historic figures <br /> Technology how-to videos (http://ruralhallschool.pbwiki.com/Technology+Movies--how+to) <br />Topics include: ** Blogs ** Excel ** Google docs ** Online photosharing ** Phishing scams ** Social networking ** Social bookmarking ** Twitter ** Web search strategies ** Wiki ** Video RSS feeds Telecommunication allows teachers to “communicate with colleagues in schools around the country or even the world, soliciting help and sharing insights on vital topics in which none of their physically immediate fellow teachers are either interested or expert” (Taylor, 1991, p. 1). Including links to technology how-to videos is especially important for supporting teachers as they learn new forms of technology and strive to implement these new forms of technology in their classrooms in meaningful, efficient ways. <br /><br /> ==Videoconferencing== In the Rural Hall Elementary School "Distance Learning Blog," a teacher wrote: “Our K-5 public school does IP videoconferencing. This is a unique opportunity for our students to take a trip to a museum 100 miles away in a few seconds. Once there, they spend time with a scientist or other instructional expert and ask questions while discovering answers for themselves with materials and manipulatives sent to our school. Then they return to their classroom to continue with their school day. This saves time, money, and offers exceptional instruction to students.” (http://rhes_distance_learning.blogspot.com/) Rural Hall’s interactive videoconference schedule includes virtual field trips with the following organizations: * International Wolf Center * NASA Digital Learning Network * NC Museum of History * NC Museum of Natural Sciences * NC School of Science & Mathematics (NCSSM) * NC Wildlife Resources Distance Learning * Projects - Megaconference Jr., Read Around the Planet * Sea Trek * Smithsonian American Art Museum Utilizing videoconferencing to take students on virtual fieldtrips and interact with scientists and other experts gives students broadened experiences and understanding of curriculum content, experiences that they likely would not get otherwise while living in a small town such as Rural Hall. "Excellent material substance and appropriate topical focus is often enhanced through presentation by a world-class expert, incorporating insights and presentational gifts rarely encountered by most students, even in the best of schools" (Taylor, 1991, p. 3). <br /><br /> ==Podcasts== The types of podcasts produced by students and teachers at Rural Hall include: * Regular child-produced news broadcasts * Visiting experts * Speeches from student council candidate speeches * Student research and presentations * Student-produced poetry performances * School song (http://web.mac.com/mcdermon1/Site/RHES/RHES.html) <br /><br /> ==Blogging== Blogging is utilized by both teachers and students at Rural Hall Elementary School. Students typically blog about information they have learned through their videoconference virtual field trips. For example, students blogged about information they learned through a research project on Belize, a collaboration between Rural Hall Elementary School, North Carolina Museum of Natural Sciences, and the Educators of Excellence Fund (http://belizetrek.blogspot.com/). Blogging is also used by teachers to share their experiences with the use of technology in the classroom. One teacher wrote: “Just like our students, we need to keep learning new things/skills; besides keeping us updated, it continues to remind us how puzzling, confusing, and frustrating students can feel when approaching new material. It keeps us honest as we work with students understanding a new concept” (http://techquest4teachers.blogspot.com/). <br /><br /> ==Conclusion== Overall, Rural Hall Elementary School provides an excellent example of successful implementation of distance learning at the elementary school level. Technology coordinators can use Rural Hall as a model when designing their own distance learning program. Although the project started with a large grant from the county school system, much of the technology implemented for the school’s distance learning theme is available at low or no cost to the general public. In addition, all forms of technology utilized by Rural Hall are both child and teacher friendly, and the school has provided an abundance of information and resources to teachers as they embark upon their journey to implement technology across all subjects and grade levels. <br /><br /> A suggestion for improved implementation of the “communication with distance learning” theme is to streamline and condense some of the information and technologies utilized in the program. Many of the same links, resources, and content are available in multiple places (such as on the school website, the PBWiki, and in blogs). Almost all pages created by the school are easy to navigate; however, the plethora of sites and links available, combined with the multiple postings of certain content, can sometimes make navigation difficult. Condensing pages and streamlining the technology used may help to make Rural Hall’s distance learning project even more successful. <br /><br /> With telecommunications, “students can now regularly communicate electronically with other students, other teachers, and even various experts, all in far away places, enlarging their interpretation of both their studies and the world at large by a far broader set of perspectives on both than traditional classroom alone could ever provide.” (Taylor, 1991, p. 1). Through the communications with distance learning project, Rural Hall Elementary School has successfully implemented a comprehensive technology program that is integrated throughout all subject areas and grade-levels, enriching the experiences and broadening the worldview of its students. <br /><br /> ==Resources== * http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=rural+hall+elementary&fb=1&sa=X&oi=local_group&resnum=1&ct=image * http://www.publicschoolreview.com/school_ov/school_id/59377 * http://winstonsalem.nc.schoolwebpages.com/education/school/school.php?sectionid=110&sc_id=1182882870 * McDermon, L. (2005). Distance Learning: It’s Elementary! Learning & Leading with Technology. International Society for Technology in Education. Retrieved from: http://eric.ed.gov/ERICDocs/data/ericdocs2sql/content_storage_01/0000019b/80/1e/1e/6e.pdf * Stansbury, M. (2008). Ten Ways to Boost Learning with Technology. eSchool News. Retrieved from: http://www.eschoolnews.com/news/top-news/index.cfm?i=56081 * http://www.megaconferencejr.org/ * http://ruralhallschool.pbwiki.com/ * http://ruralhallschool.pbwiki.com/Student+and+Classroom+Videos * http://ruralhallschool.pbwiki.com/Technology+Movies--how+to * http://rhes_distance_learning.blogspot.com/ * Taylor, R. (1991). The Impact of Telecommunications on Education. Delivered at the First Greek National Conference in Computing and Education, November 1991. * http://web.mac.com/mcdermon1/Site/RHES/RHES.html * http://belizetrek.blogspot.com/ * http://techquest4teachers.blogspot.com/ {{BookCat}} 9z4esahq1bs0m2e43q525wtp15eenew 4520783 4520782 2025-07-01T15:38:53Z Ternera 2679710 Reverted edits by [[Special:Contribs/168.235.203.236|168.235.203.236]] ([[User talk:168.235.203.236|talk]]) to last version by JackBot: test edits, please use the sandbox 3268158 wikitext text/x-wiki __TOC__ == Introduction to Rural Hall Elementary School == Rural Hall Elementary School is a school serving children in Kindergarten through fifth grade located in Rural Hall, North Carolina, a small town about 12 miles away from Winston-Salem, NC (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=rural+hall+elementary&fb=1&sa=X&oi=local_group&resnum=1&ct=image). There are approximately 570 students and 61 teachers at the school, giving the school a 1:9 teacher-student ratio (http://www.publicschoolreview.com/school_ov/school_id/59377). 65% of the students are Caucasian, 28% of the students are African-American, 7% are Latino, and 1% are Asian (http://www.publicschoolreview.com/school_ov/school_id/59377). Of the entire student population, 32% are eligible for free lunch and 9% are eligible for reduced lunch (http://www.publicschoolreview.com/school_ov/school_id/59377). <br /><br /> == School Theme: Communications with Distance Learning == Rural Hall Elementary School’s mission is: “Educators, parents, and community will provide the optimum educational experiences to all children by focusing on maximum time for quality teaching and learning while developing lifelong learners and citizens of good character” (http://winstonsalem.nc.schoolwebpages.com/education/school/school.php?sectionid=110&sc_id=1182882870). Rural Hall has adopted the school-wide theme of “communications with distance learning” as the primary means by which to achieve their mission. “Telecommunications is bringing sharp changes to the educational world by electronically bringing into immediate contact many of those in education who were formerly isolated from each other by sheer geographical separation” (Taylor, 1991, p. 1), which makes implementation of a distance learning program particularly relevant and beneficial for students in small towns such as Rural Hall. <br /><br /> The “communications with distance learning” project began when Rural Hall was awarded $10,000 of “‘theme’ money” from the Forsyth County school system to implement an idea developed by the school that would supplement and enhance the school’s curriculum (McDermon, 2005, p. 2). The school used this money to purchase a Polycom Viewstation FX, which was put together with two large televisions and the school’s T-1 fiber optic line in order to conduct “IP-based video conferencing using H.323 technology” (McDermon, 2005, p. 1). <br /><br /> Although videoconferencing is central to Rural Hall’s “communications with distance learning” theme, distance learning has been meaningfully implemented across academic and extra-curricular disciplines through a wide variety of mediums, including many free or inexpensive technology platforms. <br /><br /> == “Ten Ways to Boost Learning with Technology” == The State Educational Technology Directors Association (SETDA) recently released ten recommendations to support and enhance education through technology (Stansbury, 2008, p. 1). These recommendations are: # Ensure that technology tools and resources are used continuously and seamlessly for instruction, collaboration, and assessment. # Expose all students (pre-K through 12th grade) to STEM [science, technology, engineering, and mathematics] fields and careers. # Make ongoing, sustainable professional development available to all teachers. # Use virtual learning opportunities for teachers to further their professional development, such as through online communities and education portals. # Incorporate innovative, consistent, and timely assessments into daily instruction. # Strengthen the home-school connection by using technology to communicate with parents on student progress. # Provide the necessary resources so that every community has the infrastructure to support learning with technology, including assessments and virtual learning. # Obtain societal support for education that uses technology from all stakeholders--students, parents, teachers, state and district administrators, business leaders, legislators, and local community members. # Provide federal leadership to support states and districts regarding technology's role in school reform by passing the ATTAIN Act. # Increase available funding for the e-Rate so that schools can acquire telecommunication services, internet access, internal connections, and maintenance of those connections. (Stansbury, 2008, p. 1) <br /><br /> Some of the mediums utilized by Rural Hall to incorporate technology throughout the school community and curriculum in order to boost instruction and learning outcomes include: * School Web Site * Classroom Web Pages * PBWiki * YouTube and TeacherTube * Videoconferencing * Podcasts * Blogging <br /> == School Web Site == Rural Hall Elementary School maintains extensive school web page that contains information relevant for parents, students, community members, and employees (http://winstonsalem.nc.schoolwebpages.com/education/school/school.php?sectionid=110&sc_id=1182882870). Some of the information and resources included on the site include: * Administration announcements and policies * Frequently asked questions * School-wide calendar * Classroom web pages—each page includes: * “Communications with distance learning,” including information on: * Webmaster contact info * “Hot Potatoes”—interactive web activities * Interactive videoconference schedule * Media center * School projects * Parent Teacher Association * Photo albums * Newsletter * Email directory * School fundraisers <br /> ==Classroom web pages== Every homeroom class and enrichment class in the school has its own web page hosted on the school’s website. Each classroom web page includes: * Photos * Class calendar * Class schedule * Important documents * Relevant and age-appropriate website links and internet resources <br /> =="Communications with Distance Learning" links and information== The school website includes an extensive list of links and information to support the school-wide “communications with distance learning” theme. This section of the school’s website includes information about: * Blogs produced by students, teachers, and classes * Computer lab schedule * North Carolina Computer and Technology Curriculum * “Digital Flat Stanly” project * GLOBE (“global learning and observations to benefit the environment") * Megaconference, Jr., “a project designed to give students in elementary and secondary schools around the world the opportunity to communicate, collaborate and contribute to each other's learning in real time, using advanced multi-point video conferencing technology” (http://www.megaconferencejr.org/) * North Carolina Distance Learning Award * Podcasts * Technology-related projects * Read Around the Planet * Rural Hall Elementary School News * Videoconferences * Virtual fieldtrips and teleconferences * Weather <br /> ==PBWiki== Rural Hall Elementary School has created its own school-wide PBWiki (http://ruralhallschool.pbwiki.com/). Some of the information included on Rural Hall’s PBWiki includes: * Links to blogs * Photographs of the school’s mascot (bulldog) * Class and student produced videos (http://ruralhallschool.pbwiki.com/Student+and+Classroom+Videos) * Technology how-to movies * Video conferencing references * Links to related Wikis <br /> ==YouTube and TeacherTube== YouTube and TeacherTube are utilized throughout Rural Hall to host videos that fall into two broad categories: class/student-produced videos and technology how-to videos. <br /><br /> Class/student produced videos (http://ruralhallschool.pbwiki.com/Student+and+Classroom+Videos)<br /> Topics include: ** Electing the United States President ** Fractions ** Patterns ** Historic figures <br /> Technology how-to videos (http://ruralhallschool.pbwiki.com/Technology+Movies--how+to) <br />Topics include: ** Blogs ** Excel ** Google docs ** Online photosharing ** Phishing scams ** Social networking ** Social bookmarking ** Twitter ** Web search strategies ** Wiki ** Video RSS feeds Telecommunication allows teachers to “communicate with colleagues in schools around the country or even the world, soliciting help and sharing insights on vital topics in which none of their physically immediate fellow teachers are either interested or expert” (Taylor, 1991, p. 1). Including links to technology how-to videos is especially important for supporting teachers as they learn new forms of technology and strive to implement these new forms of technology in their classrooms in meaningful, efficient ways. <br /><br /> ==Videoconferencing== In the Rural Hall Elementary School "Distance Learning Blog," a teacher wrote: “Our K-5 public school does IP videoconferencing. This is a unique opportunity for our students to take a trip to a museum 100 miles away in a few seconds. Once there, they spend time with a scientist or other instructional expert and ask questions while discovering answers for themselves with materials and manipulatives sent to our school. Then they return to their classroom to continue with their school day. This saves time, money, and offers exceptional instruction to students.” (http://rhes_distance_learning.blogspot.com/) Rural Hall’s interactive videoconference schedule includes virtual field trips with the following organizations: * International Wolf Center * NASA Digital Learning Network * NC Museum of History * NC Museum of Natural Sciences * NC School of Science & Mathematics (NCSSM) * NC Wildlife Resources Distance Learning * Projects - Megaconference Jr., Read Around the Planet * Sea Trek * Smithsonian American Art Museum Utilizing videoconferencing to take students on virtual fieldtrips and interact with scientists and other experts gives students broadened experiences and understanding of curriculum content, experiences that they likely would not get otherwise while living in a small town such as Rural Hall. "Excellent material substance and appropriate topical focus is often enhanced through presentation by a world-class expert, incorporating insights and presentational gifts rarely encountered by most students, even in the best of schools" (Taylor, 1991, p. 3). <br /><br /> ==Podcasts== The types of podcasts produced by students and teachers at Rural Hall include: * Regular child-produced news broadcasts * Visiting experts * Speeches from student council candidate speeches * Student research and presentations * Student-produced poetry performances * School song (http://web.mac.com/mcdermon1/Site/RHES/RHES.html) <br /><br /> ==Blogging== Blogging is utilized by both teachers and students at Rural Hall Elementary School. Students typically blog about information they have learned through their videoconference virtual field trips. For example, students blogged about information they learned through a research project on Belize, a collaboration between Rural Hall Elementary School, North Carolina Museum of Natural Sciences, and the Educators of Excellence Fund (http://belizetrek.blogspot.com/). Blogging is also used by teachers to share their experiences with the use of technology in the classroom. One teacher wrote: “Just like our students, we need to keep learning new things/skills; besides keeping us updated, it continues to remind us how puzzling, confusing, and frustrating students can feel when approaching new material. It keeps us honest as we work with students understanding a new concept” (http://techquest4teachers.blogspot.com/). <br /><br /> ==Conclusion== Overall, Rural Hall Elementary School provides an excellent example of successful implementation of distance learning at the elementary school level. Technology coordinators can use Rural Hall as a model when designing their own distance learning program. Although the project started with a large grant from the county school system, much of the technology implemented for the school’s distance learning theme is available at low or no cost to the general public. In addition, all forms of technology utilized by Rural Hall are both child and teacher friendly, and the school has provided an abundance of information and resources to teachers as they embark upon their journey to implement technology across all subjects and grade levels. <br /><br /> A suggestion for improved implementation of the “communication with distance learning” theme is to streamline and condense some of the information and technologies utilized in the program. Many of the same links, resources, and content are available in multiple places (such as on the school website, the PBWiki, and in blogs). Almost all pages created by the school are easy to navigate; however, the plethora of sites and links available, combined with the multiple postings of certain content, can sometimes make navigation difficult. Condensing pages and streamlining the technology used may help to make Rural Hall’s distance learning project even more successful. <br /><br /> With telecommunications, “students can now regularly communicate electronically with other students, other teachers, and even various experts, all in far away places, enlarging their interpretation of both their studies and the world at large by a far broader set of perspectives on both than traditional classroom alone could ever provide.” (Taylor, 1991, p. 1). Through the communications with distance learning project, Rural Hall Elementary School has successfully implemented a comprehensive technology program that is integrated throughout all subject areas and grade-levels, enriching the experiences and broadening the worldview of its students. <br /><br /> ==Resources== * http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=rural+hall+elementary&fb=1&sa=X&oi=local_group&resnum=1&ct=image * http://www.publicschoolreview.com/school_ov/school_id/59377 * http://winstonsalem.nc.schoolwebpages.com/education/school/school.php?sectionid=110&sc_id=1182882870 * McDermon, L. (2005). Distance Learning: It’s Elementary! Learning & Leading with Technology. International Society for Technology in Education. Retrieved from: http://eric.ed.gov/ERICDocs/data/ericdocs2sql/content_storage_01/0000019b/80/1e/1e/6e.pdf * Stansbury, M. (2008). Ten Ways to Boost Learning with Technology. eSchool News. Retrieved from: http://www.eschoolnews.com/news/top-news/index.cfm?i=56081 * http://www.megaconferencejr.org/ * http://ruralhallschool.pbwiki.com/ * http://ruralhallschool.pbwiki.com/Student+and+Classroom+Videos * http://ruralhallschool.pbwiki.com/Technology+Movies--how+to * http://rhes_distance_learning.blogspot.com/ * Taylor, R. (1991). The Impact of Telecommunications on Education. 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OpenSCAD provides a functional descriptive language that may be used to numerically describe a 3D object using primitive shapes assembled and combined using 3D boolean operations. It is well suited to [[w:Computer-aided design|Computer-aided design]] tasks that will lead to production using CNC machining or 3D Printing processes. OpenSCAD is not an interactive modelling tool in the way that Blender or AutoCAD's apps are. Rather it uses a compiler to generate a run-time process to draw the 3D shapes specified by the instructions in an OpenSCAD file. Its user interface does offer a feature rich editing panel for the .scad programs currently loaded, an on-screen preview, a rendering engine to produce images, and a limited animation function. OpenSCAD renders in two modes, ''Preview'' and ''Render''. Older versions of openSCAD use [http://opencsg.org/ OpenCSG] and [[w:OpenGL|OpenGL]] to perform fast, [[w:Z-buffering|frame buffer]] based rendering for the on-screen preview. More recent versions of the [https://openscad.org/downloads.html#snapshots Development Snapshot] have [https://www.rocketryforum.com/threads/finally-multithreaded-openscad-rendering.182456/ switched to Manifold] for preview rendering. This change lifts several limitations, not least of which are [[w:Z-fighting|artifacts]] that occur on convoluted surfaces. Another rendering engine is used to fully [[w:Tessellation (computer graphics)|tessellate]] a model into a [[w:Polygon mesh|polygon mesh]] that is then used to create an image. The tessellation stage is preformed using the [[w:CGAL|CGAL]] geometry engine. OpenSCAD is available via the common distribution methods as listed on the [https://openscad.org/downloads.html downloads page]. = Participation= Information about OpenSCAD development is available on [https://github.com/openscad/openscad/ GitHub]. The ways to [https://openscad.org/community.html participate in the community] include the [https://www.openscad.org/community.html mailing list], and chatting on [https://openscad.org/community.html IRC]. Suggestions for features, feedback and bug reports may be written using [https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues GitHub Issues], but please [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Submitting patches|read the preferred Way of Work ]] before submitting. =Operations Manual= These pages were originally created as part of the OpenSCAD User Manual, now in the process of being restructured. {{Print version|OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Print_version|OpenSCAD_User_Manual}} # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual#Introduction|Introduction]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/First Steps|First Steps]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The OpenSCAD User Interface|The OpenSCAD User Interface]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Input Devices|Input Devices]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Customizer|Customizer]] # Import - STL, 3MF, OFF, AMF, DXF, SVG, CSG ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/SVG Import|SVG Import]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Export|Export]] - STL, 3MF, OFF, AMF, DXF, SVG, CSG, PNG ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/STL_Export|STL Export]] ## [[OpenSCAD User Manual/CSG Export|CSG Export]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_2D_formats|Other 2D formats]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Paths|Paths]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Using an external Editor with OpenSCAD|Using an external Editor with OpenSCAD]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Integration with other applications|Integration with other applications]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Using OpenSCAD in a command line environment|Using OpenSCAD in a command line environment]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Libraries|Libraries]] = The OpenSCAD Language Reference = {{Print version|OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_Language|The_OpenSCAD_Language}} # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The OpenSCAD Language|The OpenSCAD Language]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General|General]] - READ THIS FIRST - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General#Comments|comments]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General#Values_and_Data_Types|values and data types]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General#Variables|variables]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General#Vectors|vectors]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General#Objects|objects]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General#Getting_input|getting input]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Primitive Solids|3D objects]] - ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Primitive Solids|3D Primitive Solids]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Primitive Solids#cube|cube]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Primitive Solids#sphere|sphere]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Primitive Solids#cylinder|cylinder]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Primitive Solids#polyhedron|polyhedron]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/3D to 2D Projection|3D to 2D Projection]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Using the 2D Subsystem|2D Objects]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D Primitives|2D Primitives]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D Primitives#square|square]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D Primitives#circle|circle]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D Primitives#polygon|polygon]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Text|Text]] - Generate text using installed or user supplied font files; functions to retrieve text metrics. ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D to 3D Extrusion|2D to 3D]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D to 3D Extrusion#linear_extrude|linear_extrude]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D to 3D Extrusion#rotate_extrude|rotate_extrude]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations|Transform]] ##[[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#color|color]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#rotate|rotate]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#translate|translate]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#mirror|mirror]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#multmatrix|multmatrix]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#scale|scale]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#resize|resize]] ##[[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#offset|offset]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#minkowski|minkowski]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#hull|hull]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#Combining_transformations|Combining transformations]] # [[OpenSCAD User Manual/CSG Modelling|Boolean combination]] ##[[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/CSG Modelling#union|union]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/CSG Modelling#difference|difference]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/CSG Modelling#intersection|intersection]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/CSG Modelling#render|render]] # Other Functions and Operators ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions|Conditional and Iterator Functions]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions#For Loop|for]],[[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions#Intersection_For_Loop| intersection_for]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions#If Statement|if]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions#Conditional ? :| conditional ? :]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions#Assign Statement| assign]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions#Let Statement| let]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical Operators|Mathematical Operators]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical Operators|General]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical Operators#Vector-Number_Operators|Vectors]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical Operators#Matrix_Multiplication|Matrix multiplication]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical Functions|Mathematical Functions]] ### [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical_Functions#Trigonometric_Functions|Trigonometric]] (cos sin tan acos asin atan atan2) ### [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical_Functions#Other_Mathematical_Functions|Other]] (abs ceil concat cross exp floor ln len let log lookup max min norm pow rands round sign sqrt) ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/String Functions|String Functions]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/String Functions#str|str]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/String Functions#chr|chr]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/String Functions#ord|ord]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type Test Functions|Type Test Functions]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type_Test_Functions#is_undef|is_undef]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type_Test_Functions#is_bool|is_bool]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type_Test_Functions#is_num|is_num]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type_Test_Functions#is_string|is_string]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type_Test_Functions#is_list|is_list]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type_Test_Functions#is_object|is_object]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/List Comprehensions|List Comprehensions]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features|Other Language Features]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#Special variables|Special '$' variables]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#Echo Statements|echo]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#Render|render]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#surface|surface]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#Search|search]] , [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#OpenSCAD Version|version(), version_num()]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#parent_module.28n.29_and_.24parent_modules|parent_module(n) and $parent_modules]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#assert|assert]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/User-Defined Functions and Modules|User-Defined Functions and Modules]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/User-Defined_Functions_and_Modules#Functions|Functions]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/User-Defined_Functions_and_Modules#Modules|Modules]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/User-Defined_Functions_and_Modules#Children|Children]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Modifier Characters|Debugging aids]] - % # ! * [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#Echo Statements|echo]] # External libraries and code files ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Include Statement|include - SCAD, CSG]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Include Statement|use - SCAD]] ## [[OpenSCAD User Manual/Importing Geometry|import - STL, OFF, DXF]] ###[[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D Primitives#import_dxf|import_dxf]] - Deprecated ### [[OpenSCAD User Manual/Importing Geometry#import_stl|import_stl]] - Deprecated ## [[OpenSCAD User Manual/Export|export - STL, OFF, AMF, 3MF, DXF, SVG, PNG, CSG]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#Surface|surface]] - PNG = Examples = # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Commented Example Projects|Example Projects]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Example/Strandbeest|Strandbeest]] =Build Manual= # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Building OpenSCAD from Sources|Building OpenSCAD from Sources]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Building on Linux/UNIX|Building on Linux/UNIX]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Cross-compiling for Windows on Linux or Mac OS X|Cross-compiling for Windows on Linux or Mac OS X]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Building on Windows|Building on Windows (Outdated)]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Building on Microsoft Windows|Building on Windows (New)]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Building on Mac OS X|Building on Mac OS X]] = Additional Resources = # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Command Glossary|Command Glossary]] - Very short name and syntax reference # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/FAQ|Frequently Asked Questions]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Tips and Tricks|Tips and Tricks]] A clear guided introduction to using OpenSCAD and to the OpenSCAD language is available in the [https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_Tutorial OpenSCAD Tutorial]. For Teachers: a basic 25-slide presentation from 2014 is available under [[w:GNU_Free_Documentation_License|GNUFDL]] to walk your students through the process of using OpenSCAD [[appropedia:w/images/5/5f/Intro_to_OpenSCAD_2014_Long.pdf|here]]. Fablab Lannion (France) edited a nice French-language [https://static.fablab-lannion.org/tutos/openscad/ interactive tutorial] that you might appreciate. A "[https://www.openscad.org/cheatsheet/ cheat sheet]" is a useful quick reference for the OpenSCAD language, with each item linking back to this Wikibook. A list of books can be found [http://openscad.org/documentation-books.html here]. == History == Periodically the two manuals below get cleaned up or have major transitions. Consider archiving the manuals prior to starting a major update. This can be done for the two 'printable version' links below to the [https://archive.org Internet Archive] * 2018-04-25 [https://web.archive.org/web/20180425002648/https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Print_version The OpenSCAD User Manual - Print Version] & [https://web.archive.org/web/20180425001407/https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_Language The OpenSCAD Language - Print Version] * 2019-07-22 [https://web.archive.org/web/20190722042509/https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual The OpenSCAD User Manual] Which includes links to the archives of the above two printed versions (as of this date). The Wayback Machine no longer has a free user requested site archive, so below is just the two 'printable version' manuals * 2020-12-11 [https://web.archive.org/web/20201211023636/https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Print_version The OpenSCAD User Manual - Print Version] & [https://web.archive.org/web/20201211023916/https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_Language The OpenSCAD Language - Print Version] = Work in progress = This section contains documentation about ongoing work which is available as experimental features in snapshot versions of OpenSCAD or not yet integrated at all and pending in a [https://github.com/openscad/openscad/branches branch] or [https://github.com/openscad/openscad/pulls pull-request] at the [https://github.com/openscad/openscad/ OpenSCAD github repository]. * [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/WIP|Work in progress]] {{Alphabetical|O}} {{Shelves|3D graphics software|computer programming languages|computer aided design}} {{status|100%}} [[es:Tutorial de OpenScad]] [[it:OpenSCAD]] [[ru:Руководство пользователя по OpenSCAD]] njt9n8x1soik7mdqznow36y2t4hd4ry 4520785 4520784 2025-07-01T15:44:44Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 /* Operations Manual */ simplifying the list here .. still need to check that Import pages are clustered as well 4520785 wikitext text/x-wiki <!-- HEY! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>READ THIS <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< If you intend to alter the structure of this or ADD new sections PLEASE note that similar changes are required in two other pages. OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_Language - a list of all the language as one large page OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Print_version - similar to the above, designed for printing. Both these pages use transclusion which basically lists the page links to pull other pages into the main page when it is displayed. So if you add/change/reorganise/delete some pages here, please have a look at these other two pages and keep them in sync as appropriate to their function. Thank You, MichaelAtOz. (known here as mimarx) --> {{Book Search|prefix=OpenSCAD User Manual}} [[File:Openscad SVG.svg|200px|right|OpenSCAD logo]] == Introduction == <section begin=Introduction /> '''OpenSCAD''' is an opensource application for modelling and animating Solid CAD objects in three dimensions. It is offered as [https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html free software] and is available for [https://openscad.org/downloads.html several platforms]. OpenSCAD provides a functional descriptive language that may be used to numerically describe a 3D object using primitive shapes assembled and combined using 3D boolean operations. It is well suited to [[w:Computer-aided design|Computer-aided design]] tasks that will lead to production using CNC machining or 3D Printing processes. OpenSCAD is not an interactive modelling tool in the way that Blender or AutoCAD's apps are. Rather it uses a compiler to generate a run-time process to draw the 3D shapes specified by the instructions in an OpenSCAD file. Its user interface does offer a feature rich editing panel for the .scad programs currently loaded, an on-screen preview, a rendering engine to produce images, and a limited animation function. OpenSCAD renders in two modes, ''Preview'' and ''Render''. Older versions of openSCAD use [http://opencsg.org/ OpenCSG] and [[w:OpenGL|OpenGL]] to perform fast, [[w:Z-buffering|frame buffer]] based rendering for the on-screen preview. More recent versions of the [https://openscad.org/downloads.html#snapshots Development Snapshot] have [https://www.rocketryforum.com/threads/finally-multithreaded-openscad-rendering.182456/ switched to Manifold] for preview rendering. This change lifts several limitations, not least of which are [[w:Z-fighting|artifacts]] that occur on convoluted surfaces. Another rendering engine is used to fully [[w:Tessellation (computer graphics)|tessellate]] a model into a [[w:Polygon mesh|polygon mesh]] that is then used to create an image. The tessellation stage is preformed using the [[w:CGAL|CGAL]] geometry engine. OpenSCAD is available via the common distribution methods as listed on the [https://openscad.org/downloads.html downloads page]. = Participation= Information about OpenSCAD development is available on [https://github.com/openscad/openscad/ GitHub]. The ways to [https://openscad.org/community.html participate in the community] include the [https://www.openscad.org/community.html mailing list], and chatting on [https://openscad.org/community.html IRC]. Suggestions for features, feedback and bug reports may be written using [https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues GitHub Issues], but please [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Submitting patches|read the preferred Way of Work ]] before submitting. =Operations Manual= These pages were originally created as part of the OpenSCAD User Manual, now in the process of being restructured. {{Print version|OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Print_version|OpenSCAD_User_Manual}} # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual#Introduction|Introduction]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/First Steps|First Steps]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The OpenSCAD User Interface|The OpenSCAD User Interface]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Input Devices|Input Devices]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Customizer|Customizer]] # Import # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/SVG Import|SVG Import]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Export|Export]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Paths|Paths]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Using an external Editor with OpenSCAD|Using an external Editor with OpenSCAD]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Integration with other applications|Integration with other applications]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Using OpenSCAD in a command line environment|Using OpenSCAD in a command line environment]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Libraries|Libraries]] = The OpenSCAD Language Reference = {{Print version|OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_Language|The_OpenSCAD_Language}} # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The OpenSCAD Language|The OpenSCAD Language]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General|General]] - READ THIS FIRST - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General#Comments|comments]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General#Values_and_Data_Types|values and data types]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General#Variables|variables]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General#Vectors|vectors]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General#Objects|objects]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General#Getting_input|getting input]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Primitive Solids|3D objects]] - ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Primitive Solids|3D Primitive Solids]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Primitive Solids#cube|cube]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Primitive Solids#sphere|sphere]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Primitive Solids#cylinder|cylinder]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Primitive Solids#polyhedron|polyhedron]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/3D to 2D Projection|3D to 2D Projection]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Using the 2D Subsystem|2D Objects]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D Primitives|2D Primitives]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D Primitives#square|square]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D Primitives#circle|circle]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D Primitives#polygon|polygon]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Text|Text]] - Generate text using installed or user supplied font files; functions to retrieve text metrics. ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D to 3D Extrusion|2D to 3D]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D to 3D Extrusion#linear_extrude|linear_extrude]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D to 3D Extrusion#rotate_extrude|rotate_extrude]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations|Transform]] ##[[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#color|color]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#rotate|rotate]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#translate|translate]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#mirror|mirror]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#multmatrix|multmatrix]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#scale|scale]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#resize|resize]] ##[[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#offset|offset]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#minkowski|minkowski]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#hull|hull]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#Combining_transformations|Combining transformations]] # [[OpenSCAD User Manual/CSG Modelling|Boolean combination]] ##[[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/CSG Modelling#union|union]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/CSG Modelling#difference|difference]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/CSG Modelling#intersection|intersection]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/CSG Modelling#render|render]] # Other Functions and Operators ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions|Conditional and Iterator Functions]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions#For Loop|for]],[[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions#Intersection_For_Loop| intersection_for]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions#If Statement|if]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions#Conditional ? :| conditional ? :]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions#Assign Statement| assign]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions#Let Statement| let]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical Operators|Mathematical Operators]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical Operators|General]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical Operators#Vector-Number_Operators|Vectors]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical Operators#Matrix_Multiplication|Matrix multiplication]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical Functions|Mathematical Functions]] ### [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical_Functions#Trigonometric_Functions|Trigonometric]] (cos sin tan acos asin atan atan2) ### [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical_Functions#Other_Mathematical_Functions|Other]] (abs ceil concat cross exp floor ln len let log lookup max min norm pow rands round sign sqrt) ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/String Functions|String Functions]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/String Functions#str|str]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/String Functions#chr|chr]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/String Functions#ord|ord]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type Test Functions|Type Test Functions]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type_Test_Functions#is_undef|is_undef]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type_Test_Functions#is_bool|is_bool]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type_Test_Functions#is_num|is_num]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type_Test_Functions#is_string|is_string]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type_Test_Functions#is_list|is_list]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type_Test_Functions#is_object|is_object]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/List Comprehensions|List Comprehensions]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features|Other Language Features]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#Special variables|Special '$' variables]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#Echo Statements|echo]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#Render|render]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#surface|surface]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#Search|search]] , [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#OpenSCAD Version|version(), version_num()]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#parent_module.28n.29_and_.24parent_modules|parent_module(n) and $parent_modules]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#assert|assert]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/User-Defined Functions and Modules|User-Defined Functions and Modules]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/User-Defined_Functions_and_Modules#Functions|Functions]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/User-Defined_Functions_and_Modules#Modules|Modules]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/User-Defined_Functions_and_Modules#Children|Children]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Modifier Characters|Debugging aids]] - % # ! * [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#Echo Statements|echo]] # External libraries and code files ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Include Statement|include - SCAD, CSG]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Include Statement|use - SCAD]] ## [[OpenSCAD User Manual/Importing Geometry|import - STL, OFF, DXF]] ###[[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D Primitives#import_dxf|import_dxf]] - Deprecated ### [[OpenSCAD User Manual/Importing Geometry#import_stl|import_stl]] - Deprecated ## [[OpenSCAD User Manual/Export|export - STL, OFF, AMF, 3MF, DXF, SVG, PNG, CSG]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#Surface|surface]] - PNG = Examples = # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Commented Example Projects|Example Projects]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Example/Strandbeest|Strandbeest]] =Build Manual= # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Building OpenSCAD from Sources|Building OpenSCAD from Sources]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Building on Linux/UNIX|Building on Linux/UNIX]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Cross-compiling for Windows on Linux or Mac OS X|Cross-compiling for Windows on Linux or Mac OS X]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Building on Windows|Building on Windows (Outdated)]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Building on Microsoft Windows|Building on Windows (New)]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Building on Mac OS X|Building on Mac OS X]] = Additional Resources = # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Command Glossary|Command Glossary]] - Very short name and syntax reference # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/FAQ|Frequently Asked Questions]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Tips and Tricks|Tips and Tricks]] A clear guided introduction to using OpenSCAD and to the OpenSCAD language is available in the [https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_Tutorial OpenSCAD Tutorial]. For Teachers: a basic 25-slide presentation from 2014 is available under [[w:GNU_Free_Documentation_License|GNUFDL]] to walk your students through the process of using OpenSCAD [[appropedia:w/images/5/5f/Intro_to_OpenSCAD_2014_Long.pdf|here]]. Fablab Lannion (France) edited a nice French-language [https://static.fablab-lannion.org/tutos/openscad/ interactive tutorial] that you might appreciate. A "[https://www.openscad.org/cheatsheet/ cheat sheet]" is a useful quick reference for the OpenSCAD language, with each item linking back to this Wikibook. A list of books can be found [http://openscad.org/documentation-books.html here]. == History == Periodically the two manuals below get cleaned up or have major transitions. Consider archiving the manuals prior to starting a major update. This can be done for the two 'printable version' links below to the [https://archive.org Internet Archive] * 2018-04-25 [https://web.archive.org/web/20180425002648/https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Print_version The OpenSCAD User Manual - Print Version] & [https://web.archive.org/web/20180425001407/https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_Language The OpenSCAD Language - Print Version] * 2019-07-22 [https://web.archive.org/web/20190722042509/https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual The OpenSCAD User Manual] Which includes links to the archives of the above two printed versions (as of this date). The Wayback Machine no longer has a free user requested site archive, so below is just the two 'printable version' manuals * 2020-12-11 [https://web.archive.org/web/20201211023636/https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Print_version The OpenSCAD User Manual - Print Version] & [https://web.archive.org/web/20201211023916/https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_Language The OpenSCAD Language - Print Version] = Work in progress = This section contains documentation about ongoing work which is available as experimental features in snapshot versions of OpenSCAD or not yet integrated at all and pending in a [https://github.com/openscad/openscad/branches branch] or [https://github.com/openscad/openscad/pulls pull-request] at the [https://github.com/openscad/openscad/ OpenSCAD github repository]. * [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/WIP|Work in progress]] {{Alphabetical|O}} {{Shelves|3D graphics software|computer programming languages|computer aided design}} {{status|100%}} [[es:Tutorial de OpenScad]] [[it:OpenSCAD]] [[ru:Руководство пользователя по OpenSCAD]] qxjdfevy3zs1dsbxnv5lf7srom4bnmu 4520786 4520785 2025-07-01T15:47:54Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 /* Operations Manual */ the link to Introduction was self-referential - deleted 4520786 wikitext text/x-wiki <!-- HEY! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>READ THIS <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< If you intend to alter the structure of this or ADD new sections PLEASE note that similar changes are required in two other pages. OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_Language - a list of all the language as one large page OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Print_version - similar to the above, designed for printing. Both these pages use transclusion which basically lists the page links to pull other pages into the main page when it is displayed. So if you add/change/reorganise/delete some pages here, please have a look at these other two pages and keep them in sync as appropriate to their function. Thank You, MichaelAtOz. (known here as mimarx) --> {{Book Search|prefix=OpenSCAD User Manual}} [[File:Openscad SVG.svg|200px|right|OpenSCAD logo]] == Introduction == <section begin=Introduction /> '''OpenSCAD''' is an opensource application for modelling and animating Solid CAD objects in three dimensions. It is offered as [https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html free software] and is available for [https://openscad.org/downloads.html several platforms]. OpenSCAD provides a functional descriptive language that may be used to numerically describe a 3D object using primitive shapes assembled and combined using 3D boolean operations. It is well suited to [[w:Computer-aided design|Computer-aided design]] tasks that will lead to production using CNC machining or 3D Printing processes. OpenSCAD is not an interactive modelling tool in the way that Blender or AutoCAD's apps are. Rather it uses a compiler to generate a run-time process to draw the 3D shapes specified by the instructions in an OpenSCAD file. Its user interface does offer a feature rich editing panel for the .scad programs currently loaded, an on-screen preview, a rendering engine to produce images, and a limited animation function. OpenSCAD renders in two modes, ''Preview'' and ''Render''. Older versions of openSCAD use [http://opencsg.org/ OpenCSG] and [[w:OpenGL|OpenGL]] to perform fast, [[w:Z-buffering|frame buffer]] based rendering for the on-screen preview. More recent versions of the [https://openscad.org/downloads.html#snapshots Development Snapshot] have [https://www.rocketryforum.com/threads/finally-multithreaded-openscad-rendering.182456/ switched to Manifold] for preview rendering. This change lifts several limitations, not least of which are [[w:Z-fighting|artifacts]] that occur on convoluted surfaces. Another rendering engine is used to fully [[w:Tessellation (computer graphics)|tessellate]] a model into a [[w:Polygon mesh|polygon mesh]] that is then used to create an image. The tessellation stage is preformed using the [[w:CGAL|CGAL]] geometry engine. OpenSCAD is available via the common distribution methods as listed on the [https://openscad.org/downloads.html downloads page]. = Participation= Information about OpenSCAD development is available on [https://github.com/openscad/openscad/ GitHub]. The ways to [https://openscad.org/community.html participate in the community] include the [https://www.openscad.org/community.html mailing list], and chatting on [https://openscad.org/community.html IRC]. Suggestions for features, feedback and bug reports may be written using [https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues GitHub Issues], but please [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Submitting patches|read the preferred Way of Work ]] before submitting. =Operations Manual= These pages were originally created as part of the OpenSCAD User Manual, now in the process of being restructured. {{Print version|OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Print_version|OpenSCAD_User_Manual}} # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/First Steps|First Steps]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The OpenSCAD User Interface|The OpenSCAD User Interface]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Input Devices|Input Devices]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Customizer|Customizer]] # Import # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/SVG Import|SVG Import]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Export|Export]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Paths|Paths]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Using an external Editor with OpenSCAD|Using an external Editor with OpenSCAD]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Integration with other applications|Integration with other applications]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Using OpenSCAD in a command line environment|Using OpenSCAD in a command line environment]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Libraries|Libraries]] = The OpenSCAD Language Reference = {{Print version|OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_Language|The_OpenSCAD_Language}} # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The OpenSCAD Language|The OpenSCAD Language]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General|General]] - READ THIS FIRST - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General#Comments|comments]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General#Values_and_Data_Types|values and data types]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General#Variables|variables]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General#Vectors|vectors]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General#Objects|objects]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/General#Getting_input|getting input]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Primitive Solids|3D objects]] - ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Primitive Solids|3D Primitive Solids]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Primitive Solids#cube|cube]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Primitive Solids#sphere|sphere]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Primitive Solids#cylinder|cylinder]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Primitive Solids#polyhedron|polyhedron]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/3D to 2D Projection|3D to 2D Projection]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Using the 2D Subsystem|2D Objects]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D Primitives|2D Primitives]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D Primitives#square|square]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D Primitives#circle|circle]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D Primitives#polygon|polygon]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Text|Text]] - Generate text using installed or user supplied font files; functions to retrieve text metrics. ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D to 3D Extrusion|2D to 3D]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D to 3D Extrusion#linear_extrude|linear_extrude]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D to 3D Extrusion#rotate_extrude|rotate_extrude]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations|Transform]] ##[[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#color|color]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#rotate|rotate]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#translate|translate]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#mirror|mirror]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#multmatrix|multmatrix]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#scale|scale]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#resize|resize]] ##[[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#offset|offset]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#minkowski|minkowski]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#hull|hull]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Transformations#Combining_transformations|Combining transformations]] # [[OpenSCAD User Manual/CSG Modelling|Boolean combination]] ##[[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/CSG Modelling#union|union]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/CSG Modelling#difference|difference]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/CSG Modelling#intersection|intersection]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/CSG Modelling#render|render]] # Other Functions and Operators ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions|Conditional and Iterator Functions]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions#For Loop|for]],[[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions#Intersection_For_Loop| intersection_for]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions#If Statement|if]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions#Conditional ? :| conditional ? :]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions#Assign Statement| assign]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Conditional and Iterator Functions#Let Statement| let]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical Operators|Mathematical Operators]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical Operators|General]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical Operators#Vector-Number_Operators|Vectors]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical Operators#Matrix_Multiplication|Matrix multiplication]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical Functions|Mathematical Functions]] ### [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical_Functions#Trigonometric_Functions|Trigonometric]] (cos sin tan acos asin atan atan2) ### [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Mathematical_Functions#Other_Mathematical_Functions|Other]] (abs ceil concat cross exp floor ln len let log lookup max min norm pow rands round sign sqrt) ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/String Functions|String Functions]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/String Functions#str|str]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/String Functions#chr|chr]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/String Functions#ord|ord]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type Test Functions|Type Test Functions]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type_Test_Functions#is_undef|is_undef]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type_Test_Functions#is_bool|is_bool]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type_Test_Functions#is_num|is_num]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type_Test_Functions#is_string|is_string]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type_Test_Functions#is_list|is_list]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Type_Test_Functions#is_object|is_object]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/List Comprehensions|List Comprehensions]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features|Other Language Features]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#Special variables|Special '$' variables]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#Echo Statements|echo]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#Render|render]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#surface|surface]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#Search|search]] , [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#OpenSCAD Version|version(), version_num()]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#parent_module.28n.29_and_.24parent_modules|parent_module(n) and $parent_modules]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#assert|assert]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/User-Defined Functions and Modules|User-Defined Functions and Modules]] - [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/User-Defined_Functions_and_Modules#Functions|Functions]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/User-Defined_Functions_and_Modules#Modules|Modules]], [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/User-Defined_Functions_and_Modules#Children|Children]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Modifier Characters|Debugging aids]] - % # ! * [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other Language Features#Echo Statements|echo]] # External libraries and code files ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Include Statement|include - SCAD, CSG]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Include Statement|use - SCAD]] ## [[OpenSCAD User Manual/Importing Geometry|import - STL, OFF, DXF]] ###[[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/2D Primitives#import_dxf|import_dxf]] - Deprecated ### [[OpenSCAD User Manual/Importing Geometry#import_stl|import_stl]] - Deprecated ## [[OpenSCAD User Manual/Export|export - STL, OFF, AMF, 3MF, DXF, SVG, PNG, CSG]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#Surface|surface]] - PNG = Examples = # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Commented Example Projects|Example Projects]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Example/Strandbeest|Strandbeest]] =Build Manual= # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Building OpenSCAD from Sources|Building OpenSCAD from Sources]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Building on Linux/UNIX|Building on Linux/UNIX]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Cross-compiling for Windows on Linux or Mac OS X|Cross-compiling for Windows on Linux or Mac OS X]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Building on Windows|Building on Windows (Outdated)]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Building on Microsoft Windows|Building on Windows (New)]] ## [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Building on Mac OS X|Building on Mac OS X]] = Additional Resources = # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Command Glossary|Command Glossary]] - Very short name and syntax reference # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/FAQ|Frequently Asked Questions]] # [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Tips and Tricks|Tips and Tricks]] A clear guided introduction to using OpenSCAD and to the OpenSCAD language is available in the [https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_Tutorial OpenSCAD Tutorial]. For Teachers: a basic 25-slide presentation from 2014 is available under [[w:GNU_Free_Documentation_License|GNUFDL]] to walk your students through the process of using OpenSCAD [[appropedia:w/images/5/5f/Intro_to_OpenSCAD_2014_Long.pdf|here]]. Fablab Lannion (France) edited a nice French-language [https://static.fablab-lannion.org/tutos/openscad/ interactive tutorial] that you might appreciate. A "[https://www.openscad.org/cheatsheet/ cheat sheet]" is a useful quick reference for the OpenSCAD language, with each item linking back to this Wikibook. A list of books can be found [http://openscad.org/documentation-books.html here]. == History == Periodically the two manuals below get cleaned up or have major transitions. Consider archiving the manuals prior to starting a major update. This can be done for the two 'printable version' links below to the [https://archive.org Internet Archive] * 2018-04-25 [https://web.archive.org/web/20180425002648/https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Print_version The OpenSCAD User Manual - Print Version] & [https://web.archive.org/web/20180425001407/https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_Language The OpenSCAD Language - Print Version] * 2019-07-22 [https://web.archive.org/web/20190722042509/https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual The OpenSCAD User Manual] Which includes links to the archives of the above two printed versions (as of this date). The Wayback Machine no longer has a free user requested site archive, so below is just the two 'printable version' manuals * 2020-12-11 [https://web.archive.org/web/20201211023636/https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Print_version The OpenSCAD User Manual - Print Version] & [https://web.archive.org/web/20201211023916/https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_Language The OpenSCAD Language - Print Version] = Work in progress = This section contains documentation about ongoing work which is available as experimental features in snapshot versions of OpenSCAD or not yet integrated at all and pending in a [https://github.com/openscad/openscad/branches branch] or [https://github.com/openscad/openscad/pulls pull-request] at the [https://github.com/openscad/openscad/ OpenSCAD github repository]. * [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/WIP|Work in progress]] {{Alphabetical|O}} {{Shelves|3D graphics software|computer programming languages|computer aided design}} {{status|100%}} [[es:Tutorial de OpenScad]] [[it:OpenSCAD]] [[ru:Руководство пользователя по OpenSCAD]] 4o7ezsiexm8s3w6n6ihofpakymxl0na OpenSCAD User Manual/The OpenSCAD User Interface 0 229896 4520788 4515689 2025-07-01T16:24:36Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 some work towards the final result 4520788 wikitext text/x-wiki = Graphic User Interface = The OpenSCAD GUI is a flexible tool for interactively editing a script with instant feedback in the rendered preview, and supporting information from the console, error log and other information panels. [[File:OpenSCAD Main Window.png|frame|Main Window with the OpenSCAD-Logo]] [[File:Snapshop-window-list.png|frameless|right|alt=The Windows Menu allows one to select which of the information panels to show|Windows Menu - list of information windows]] By default the application window shows three panels: * Editing Panel * Preview * Console === Text editor === The powerful Scintilla based editor offers all of the features that a modern programmers tool should offer: * search & replace * syntax highlighting There are predefined color schemes that can be selected in the Preferences dialog. {{multiple image | align = center | width = 220 | footer = OpenSCAD Editor with Find / Replace functionality. | image1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog.png | alt1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog | image2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog.png | alt2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog }} == Preview== Preview and rendering output goes into the viewing area. Using the ''Show Axes'' menu entry an indicator for the coordinate axes can be enabled. === Console window === Status information, warnings and errors are displayed in the console window. During a render a progress-bar is displayed at the bottom of the console. It includes a Cancel button to stop the render. <br> [[File:OpenSCAD Cancel Button - cancels the render.jpg|left|A render can be cancel using the X button at the end of the progress bar.]] {{clear}} == Interactive modification of the numerical value == It is possible to change a numeric value in the source code and observe the result in real time. Placing the cursor after a digit and pressing Alt+ up arrow or Alt + down arrow will increment or decrement the chosen digit. The object is re-rendered and displayed in ''preview mode'' after each change of the selected number in the source code. The cursor is moved after the next digit by Alt + right arrow, the further decimal digits are added when needed by moving the cursor after the last digit on the right side. The cursor is moved left behind the most significant digits of the number by Alt + left arrow. NOTE: On MacOS, use Option + Shift instead of Alt. {| class="wikitable" !Key !Description |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Up Arrow}} |Increment the numeric value to the left of the cursor and preview the object. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Down Arrow}} |Decrement the numeric value to the left of the cursor and preview the object. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Left Arrow}} |Move the cursor left to more significant digit. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} |Move the cursor right to less significant digit, eventually add one more decimal digit. |} == View navigation == The viewing area is navigated primarily using the mouse: {|class="wikitable" !Action !Icons !Description |- |rowspan=2|rotating the view |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] | Dragging with the left mouse button rotates the view along the axes of the viewing area. It preserves the vertical axis' direction. Double-click the left button to set the point of rotation. |- |{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] |Dragging with the left mouse button when the shift key is pressed rotates the view along the vertical axis and the axis pointing towards the user. |- |moving the viewing area |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |Dragging with the right mouse button moves the viewing area. |- |rowspan=5|zooming |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Mouse wheel up.svg|24px]][[File:Mouse wheel down.svg|24px]] |Using the scroll wheel |- |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |Dragging with the middle mouse button |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |rowspan=2|Dragging with the right or middle mouse button and the shift key pressed |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |- |style="text-align: center;"|''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' |The keys ''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' (''{{key press|Ctrl+[}}'' and ''{{key press|Ctrl+]}}'') |- |show/hide rotation center |{{key press|Ctrl|3}} |Turn on or off the graphic showing the center of rotation. (It is always in the center of the viewing area). |- |rotation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|0}} |Rotation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|0}}. |- |translation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|}} + </br> {{key press|Shift|0}} |Translation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|Shift|0}}. |} == View setup == The viewing area can be configured to use different rendering methods and other options using the View menu. Most of the options described here are available using shortcuts as well. === Render modes === ==== OpenCSG (F9) ==== This method produces instantaneous results, but has low frame rates when working with highly non convex objects. Selecting the OpenCSG mode using F9 switches to the last generated OpenCSG view, but does not re-evaluate the source code. You may want to use the ''Compile'' function (F5, found in the ''Design'' menu) to re-evaluate the source code, build the OpenCSG objects and ''then'' switch to OpenCSG view. ===== Implementation Details ===== In OpenCSG mode, the [http://opencsg.org/ OpenCSG library] is used for generating the visible model. This library uses advanced OpenGL features (2.0) like the Z buffer and does not require an explicit description of the resulting mesh – instead, it tracks how objects are to be combined. For example, when rendering a spherical dent in a cube, it first renders the cube on the graphics card and then render the sphere, but instead of using the Z buffer to '''hide''' the parts of the sphere that are covered by the cube, it renders '''only''' those parts of the sphere, visually resulting in a cube with a spherical dent. ==== CGAL (Surfaces and Grid, F10 and F11) ==== This method might need some time when first used with a new program, but then has higher frame rates. As before with OpenCSG, F10 and F11 enable only CGAL display mode and don't update the underlying objects; for that, use the ''Compile and Render'' function (F6, found in the ''Design'' menu). To combine the benefits of those two display methods, you can selectively wrap parts of your program in a [[../The OpenSCAD Language#render|render]] function and force them to be baken into a mesh even with OpenCSG mode enabled. ===== Implementation Details ===== The acronym CGAL refers to The Open Source Computational Geometry Algorithms Library. In CGAL mode, the CGAL library is used to compute the mesh of the root object, which is then displayed using simple OpenGL. === View options === ==== ''Show Edges'' (Ctrl+1) ==== [[File:OpenSCAD edges CGAL vs OpenCSG.png|thumb|300px|The difference between the CGAL and OpenCSG approaches can be seen at edges created by boolean operations.]] If ''Show Edges'' is enabled, both OpenCSG and CGAL mode render edges as well as faces; CGAL even shows vertices. In CGAL grid mode, this option has no effect. Enabling this option shows the difference between OpenCSG and CGAL quite clearly: While in CGAL mode you see an edge drawn everywhere it "belongs", OpenCSG does not show edges resulting from boolean operations – this is because they were never explicitly calculated but are just where one object's Z clipping begins or ends. ==== ''Show Axes'' (Ctrl+2) ==== If ''Show Axes'' is enabled, the origin of the global coordinate system is indicated by an orthogonal axes indicator. Additionally, a smaller axes indicator with axes names are shown in the lower left corner of the viewing area. The smaller axes indicator is marked x, y, z and coloured red, green, blue respectively. ==== ''Show Crosshairs'' (Ctrl+3) ==== If ''Show Crosshairs'' is enabled, the center of the viewport is indicated by four lines pointing in the room diagonal directions of the global coordinate system. This is useful when aligning the viewing area to a particular point in the model to keep it centered on screen during rotation. === Animation === The ''Animate'' option adds an animation bar to the lower edge of the screen. As soon as ''FPS'' and ''Steps'' are set (reasonable values to begin with are 10 and 100, respectively), the current ''Time'' is incremented by 1/''Steps'', ''FPS'' times per second, until it reaches 1, when it wraps back to 0. Every time ''Time'' is changed, the program is re-evaluated with the variable <tt>$t</tt> set to the current time. Read more about how <tt>$t</tt> is used in section [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#$t| Other_Language_Features]]. === View alignment === The menu items ''Top, Bottom, …, Diagonal'' and ''Center'' (Ctrl+4, Ctrl+5, …, Ctrl+0, Ctrl+Shift+0) align the view to the global coordinate system. ''Top, Bottom, Left, Right, Front'' and ''Back'' align it in parallel to the axes, the ''Diagonal'' option aligns it diagonally as it is aligned when OpenSCAD starts. The ''Center'' option puts the coordinate center in the middle of the screen (but not rotate the view). By default, the view is in ''Perspective'' mode, meaning that distances far away from the viewer appear shorter, as seen in the real world eyes or cameras. When the view mode is changed to ''Orthogonal'', visible distances do not depend on the camera distance (the view simulates a camera at an infinite distance with an infinite focal length). This is especially useful in combination with the ''Top'' etc. options described above, as these orthogonal views result in a 2D images similar to what one would see in an engineering drawing. {{BookCat}} [[ru:Руководство пользователя по OpenSCAD/Пользовательский интерфейс OpenSCAD]] [[it:OpenSCAD/Interfaccia_utente_OpenSCAD]] ntj4iqzsdoaznu1n6343tukeuot0o1h 4520799 4520788 2025-07-01T17:11:20Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 /* Text editor */ added to the list of features 4520799 wikitext text/x-wiki = Graphic User Interface = The OpenSCAD GUI is a flexible tool for interactively editing a script with instant feedback in the rendered preview, and supporting information from the console, error log and other information panels. [[File:OpenSCAD Main Window.png|frame|Main Window with the OpenSCAD-Logo]] [[File:Snapshop-window-list.png|frameless|right|alt=The Windows Menu allows one to select which of the information panels to show|Windows Menu - list of information windows]] By default the application window shows three panels: * Editing Panel * Preview * Console === Text editor === The powerful Scintilla based editor offers all of the features that a modern programmers tool should offer: * multiple files open on tabs * search & replace * syntax highlighting * keyword and argument list completion * interactive value change * indenting * apply and remove comments {{multiple image | align = center | width = 220 | footer = OpenSCAD Editor with Find / Replace functionality. | image1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog.png | alt1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog | image2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog.png | alt2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog }} == Preview== Preview and rendering output goes into the viewing area. Using the ''Show Axes'' menu entry an indicator for the coordinate axes can be enabled. === Console window === Status information, warnings and errors are displayed in the console window. During a render a progress-bar is displayed at the bottom of the console. It includes a Cancel button to stop the render. <br> [[File:OpenSCAD Cancel Button - cancels the render.jpg|left|A render can be cancel using the X button at the end of the progress bar.]] {{clear}} == Interactive modification of the numerical value == It is possible to change a numeric value in the source code and observe the result in real time. Placing the cursor after a digit and pressing Alt+ up arrow or Alt + down arrow will increment or decrement the chosen digit. The object is re-rendered and displayed in ''preview mode'' after each change of the selected number in the source code. The cursor is moved after the next digit by Alt + right arrow, the further decimal digits are added when needed by moving the cursor after the last digit on the right side. The cursor is moved left behind the most significant digits of the number by Alt + left arrow. NOTE: On MacOS, use Option + Shift instead of Alt. {| class="wikitable" !Key !Description |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Up Arrow}} |Increment the numeric value to the left of the cursor and preview the object. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Down Arrow}} |Decrement the numeric value to the left of the cursor and preview the object. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Left Arrow}} |Move the cursor left to more significant digit. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} |Move the cursor right to less significant digit, eventually add one more decimal digit. |} == View navigation == The viewing area is navigated primarily using the mouse: {|class="wikitable" !Action !Icons !Description |- |rowspan=2|rotating the view |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] | Dragging with the left mouse button rotates the view along the axes of the viewing area. It preserves the vertical axis' direction. Double-click the left button to set the point of rotation. |- |{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] |Dragging with the left mouse button when the shift key is pressed rotates the view along the vertical axis and the axis pointing towards the user. |- |moving the viewing area |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |Dragging with the right mouse button moves the viewing area. |- |rowspan=5|zooming |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Mouse wheel up.svg|24px]][[File:Mouse wheel down.svg|24px]] |Using the scroll wheel |- |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |Dragging with the middle mouse button |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |rowspan=2|Dragging with the right or middle mouse button and the shift key pressed |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |- |style="text-align: center;"|''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' |The keys ''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' (''{{key press|Ctrl+[}}'' and ''{{key press|Ctrl+]}}'') |- |show/hide rotation center |{{key press|Ctrl|3}} |Turn on or off the graphic showing the center of rotation. (It is always in the center of the viewing area). |- |rotation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|0}} |Rotation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|0}}. |- |translation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|}} + </br> {{key press|Shift|0}} |Translation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|Shift|0}}. |} == View setup == The viewing area can be configured to use different rendering methods and other options using the View menu. Most of the options described here are available using shortcuts as well. === Render modes === ==== OpenCSG (F9) ==== This method produces instantaneous results, but has low frame rates when working with highly non convex objects. Selecting the OpenCSG mode using F9 switches to the last generated OpenCSG view, but does not re-evaluate the source code. You may want to use the ''Compile'' function (F5, found in the ''Design'' menu) to re-evaluate the source code, build the OpenCSG objects and ''then'' switch to OpenCSG view. ===== Implementation Details ===== In OpenCSG mode, the [http://opencsg.org/ OpenCSG library] is used for generating the visible model. This library uses advanced OpenGL features (2.0) like the Z buffer and does not require an explicit description of the resulting mesh – instead, it tracks how objects are to be combined. For example, when rendering a spherical dent in a cube, it first renders the cube on the graphics card and then render the sphere, but instead of using the Z buffer to '''hide''' the parts of the sphere that are covered by the cube, it renders '''only''' those parts of the sphere, visually resulting in a cube with a spherical dent. ==== CGAL (Surfaces and Grid, F10 and F11) ==== This method might need some time when first used with a new program, but then has higher frame rates. As before with OpenCSG, F10 and F11 enable only CGAL display mode and don't update the underlying objects; for that, use the ''Compile and Render'' function (F6, found in the ''Design'' menu). To combine the benefits of those two display methods, you can selectively wrap parts of your program in a [[../The OpenSCAD Language#render|render]] function and force them to be baken into a mesh even with OpenCSG mode enabled. ===== Implementation Details ===== The acronym CGAL refers to The Open Source Computational Geometry Algorithms Library. In CGAL mode, the CGAL library is used to compute the mesh of the root object, which is then displayed using simple OpenGL. === View options === ==== ''Show Edges'' (Ctrl+1) ==== [[File:OpenSCAD edges CGAL vs OpenCSG.png|thumb|300px|The difference between the CGAL and OpenCSG approaches can be seen at edges created by boolean operations.]] If ''Show Edges'' is enabled, both OpenCSG and CGAL mode render edges as well as faces; CGAL even shows vertices. In CGAL grid mode, this option has no effect. Enabling this option shows the difference between OpenCSG and CGAL quite clearly: While in CGAL mode you see an edge drawn everywhere it "belongs", OpenCSG does not show edges resulting from boolean operations – this is because they were never explicitly calculated but are just where one object's Z clipping begins or ends. ==== ''Show Axes'' (Ctrl+2) ==== If ''Show Axes'' is enabled, the origin of the global coordinate system is indicated by an orthogonal axes indicator. Additionally, a smaller axes indicator with axes names are shown in the lower left corner of the viewing area. The smaller axes indicator is marked x, y, z and coloured red, green, blue respectively. ==== ''Show Crosshairs'' (Ctrl+3) ==== If ''Show Crosshairs'' is enabled, the center of the viewport is indicated by four lines pointing in the room diagonal directions of the global coordinate system. This is useful when aligning the viewing area to a particular point in the model to keep it centered on screen during rotation. === Animation === The ''Animate'' option adds an animation bar to the lower edge of the screen. As soon as ''FPS'' and ''Steps'' are set (reasonable values to begin with are 10 and 100, respectively), the current ''Time'' is incremented by 1/''Steps'', ''FPS'' times per second, until it reaches 1, when it wraps back to 0. Every time ''Time'' is changed, the program is re-evaluated with the variable <tt>$t</tt> set to the current time. Read more about how <tt>$t</tt> is used in section [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#$t| Other_Language_Features]]. === View alignment === The menu items ''Top, Bottom, …, Diagonal'' and ''Center'' (Ctrl+4, Ctrl+5, …, Ctrl+0, Ctrl+Shift+0) align the view to the global coordinate system. ''Top, Bottom, Left, Right, Front'' and ''Back'' align it in parallel to the axes, the ''Diagonal'' option aligns it diagonally as it is aligned when OpenSCAD starts. The ''Center'' option puts the coordinate center in the middle of the screen (but not rotate the view). By default, the view is in ''Perspective'' mode, meaning that distances far away from the viewer appear shorter, as seen in the real world eyes or cameras. When the view mode is changed to ''Orthogonal'', visible distances do not depend on the camera distance (the view simulates a camera at an infinite distance with an infinite focal length). This is especially useful in combination with the ''Top'' etc. options described above, as these orthogonal views result in a 2D images similar to what one would see in an engineering drawing. {{BookCat}} [[ru:Руководство пользователя по OpenSCAD/Пользовательский интерфейс OpenSCAD]] [[it:OpenSCAD/Interfaccia_utente_OpenSCAD]] 176fb97m0gm51dhq56kub9bsel4h6op 4520811 4520799 2025-07-01T17:51:21Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 sorting out a note template 4520811 wikitext text/x-wiki = Graphic User Interface = The OpenSCAD GUI is a flexible tool for interactively editing a script with instant feedback in the rendered preview, and supporting information from the console, error log and other information panels. [[File:OpenSCAD Main Window.png|frame|Main Window with the OpenSCAD-Logo]] [[File:Snapshop-window-list.png|frameless|right|alt=The Windows Menu allows one to select which of the information panels to show|Windows Menu - list of information windows]] By default the application window shows three panels: * Editing Panel * Preview * Console === Text editor === The powerful Scintilla based editor offers all of the features that a modern programmers tool should offer: * multiple files open on tabs * search & replace * syntax highlighting * keyword and argument list completion * interactive value change * indenting * apply and remove comments == Interactive modification of the numerical value == It is possible to change a numeric value in the source code and observe the result in real time. Placing the cursor after a digit and pressing Alt+ up arrow or Alt + down arrow will increment or decrement the chosen digit. The object is re-rendered and displayed in ''preview mode'' after each change of the selected number in the source code. The cursor is moved after the next digit by Alt + right arrow, the further decimal digits are added when needed by moving the cursor after the last digit on the right side. The cursor is moved left behind the most significant digits of the number by Alt + left arrow. {{{OSSpecific|MacOS|use Option + Shift instead of Alt}}} {| class="wikitable" !Key !Description |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Up Arrow}} |Increment the numeric value to the left of the cursor and preview the object. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Down Arrow}} |Decrement the numeric value to the left of the cursor and preview the object. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Left Arrow}} |Move the cursor left to more significant digit. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} |Move the cursor right to less significant digit, eventually add one more decimal digit. |} {{multiple image | align = center | width = 220 | footer = OpenSCAD Editor with Find / Replace functionality. | image1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog.png | alt1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog | image2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog.png | alt2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog }} == Preview== Preview and rendering output goes into the viewing area. Using the ''Show Axes'' menu entry an indicator for the coordinate axes can be enabled. === Console window === Status information, warnings and errors are displayed in the console window. During a render a progress-bar is displayed at the bottom of the console. It includes a Cancel button to stop the render. <br> [[File:OpenSCAD Cancel Button - cancels the render.jpg|left|A render can be cancel using the X button at the end of the progress bar.]] {{clear}} == Preview == The viewing area is navigated primarily using the mouse: {|class="wikitable" !Action !Icons !Description |- |rowspan=2|rotating the view |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] | Dragging with the left mouse button rotates the view along the axes of the viewing area. It preserves the vertical axis' direction. Double-click the left button to set the point of rotation. |- |{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] |Dragging with the left mouse button when the shift key is pressed rotates the view along the vertical axis and the axis pointing towards the user. |- |moving the viewing area |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |Dragging with the right mouse button moves the viewing area. |- |rowspan=5|zooming |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Mouse wheel up.svg|24px]][[File:Mouse wheel down.svg|24px]] |Using the scroll wheel |- |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |Dragging with the middle mouse button |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |rowspan=2|Dragging with the right or middle mouse button and the shift key pressed |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |- |style="text-align: center;"|''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' |The keys ''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' (''{{key press|Ctrl+[}}'' and ''{{key press|Ctrl+]}}'') |- |show/hide rotation center |{{key press|Ctrl|3}} |Turn on or off the graphic showing the center of rotation. (It is always in the center of the viewing area). |- |rotation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|0}} |Rotation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|0}}. |- |translation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|}} + </br> {{key press|Shift|0}} |Translation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|Shift|0}}. |} == View setup == The viewing area can be configured to use different rendering methods and other options using the View menu. Most of the options described here are available using shortcuts as well. === Render modes === ==== OpenCSG (F9) ==== This method produces instantaneous results, but has low frame rates when working with highly non convex objects. Selecting the OpenCSG mode using F9 switches to the last generated OpenCSG view, but does not re-evaluate the source code. You may want to use the ''Compile'' function (F5, found in the ''Design'' menu) to re-evaluate the source code, build the OpenCSG objects and ''then'' switch to OpenCSG view. ===== Implementation Details ===== In OpenCSG mode, the [http://opencsg.org/ OpenCSG library] is used for generating the visible model. This library uses advanced OpenGL features (2.0) like the Z buffer and does not require an explicit description of the resulting mesh – instead, it tracks how objects are to be combined. For example, when rendering a spherical dent in a cube, it first renders the cube on the graphics card and then render the sphere, but instead of using the Z buffer to '''hide''' the parts of the sphere that are covered by the cube, it renders '''only''' those parts of the sphere, visually resulting in a cube with a spherical dent. ==== CGAL (Surfaces and Grid, F10 and F11) ==== This method might need some time when first used with a new program, but then has higher frame rates. As before with OpenCSG, F10 and F11 enable only CGAL display mode and don't update the underlying objects; for that, use the ''Compile and Render'' function (F6, found in the ''Design'' menu). To combine the benefits of those two display methods, you can selectively wrap parts of your program in a [[../The OpenSCAD Language#render|render]] function and force them to be baken into a mesh even with OpenCSG mode enabled. ===== Implementation Details ===== The acronym CGAL refers to The Open Source Computational Geometry Algorithms Library. In CGAL mode, the CGAL library is used to compute the mesh of the root object, which is then displayed using simple OpenGL. === View options === ==== ''Show Edges'' (Ctrl+1) ==== [[File:OpenSCAD edges CGAL vs OpenCSG.png|thumb|300px|The difference between the CGAL and OpenCSG approaches can be seen at edges created by boolean operations.]] If ''Show Edges'' is enabled, both OpenCSG and CGAL mode render edges as well as faces; CGAL even shows vertices. In CGAL grid mode, this option has no effect. Enabling this option shows the difference between OpenCSG and CGAL quite clearly: While in CGAL mode you see an edge drawn everywhere it "belongs", OpenCSG does not show edges resulting from boolean operations – this is because they were never explicitly calculated but are just where one object's Z clipping begins or ends. ==== ''Show Axes'' (Ctrl+2) ==== If ''Show Axes'' is enabled, the origin of the global coordinate system is indicated by an orthogonal axes indicator. Additionally, a smaller axes indicator with axes names are shown in the lower left corner of the viewing area. The smaller axes indicator is marked x, y, z and coloured red, green, blue respectively. ==== ''Show Crosshairs'' (Ctrl+3) ==== If ''Show Crosshairs'' is enabled, the center of the viewport is indicated by four lines pointing in the room diagonal directions of the global coordinate system. This is useful when aligning the viewing area to a particular point in the model to keep it centered on screen during rotation. === Animation === The ''Animate'' option adds an animation bar to the lower edge of the screen. As soon as ''FPS'' and ''Steps'' are set (reasonable values to begin with are 10 and 100, respectively), the current ''Time'' is incremented by 1/''Steps'', ''FPS'' times per second, until it reaches 1, when it wraps back to 0. Every time ''Time'' is changed, the program is re-evaluated with the variable <tt>$t</tt> set to the current time. Read more about how <tt>$t</tt> is used in section [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#$t| Other_Language_Features]]. === View alignment === The menu items ''Top, Bottom, …, Diagonal'' and ''Center'' (Ctrl+4, Ctrl+5, …, Ctrl+0, Ctrl+Shift+0) align the view to the global coordinate system. ''Top, Bottom, Left, Right, Front'' and ''Back'' align it in parallel to the axes, the ''Diagonal'' option aligns it diagonally as it is aligned when OpenSCAD starts. The ''Center'' option puts the coordinate center in the middle of the screen (but not rotate the view). By default, the view is in ''Perspective'' mode, meaning that distances far away from the viewer appear shorter, as seen in the real world eyes or cameras. When the view mode is changed to ''Orthogonal'', visible distances do not depend on the camera distance (the view simulates a camera at an infinite distance with an infinite focal length). This is especially useful in combination with the ''Top'' etc. options described above, as these orthogonal views result in a 2D images similar to what one would see in an engineering drawing. {{BookCat}} [[ru:Руководство пользователя по OpenSCAD/Пользовательский интерфейс OpenSCAD]] [[it:OpenSCAD/Interfaccia_utente_OpenSCAD]] 8bw1flj90655ksem5bgtzigyj5wvmyy 4520823 4520811 2025-07-01T18:43:12Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 trying to get the OSSPecific template to work 4520823 wikitext text/x-wiki = Graphic User Interface = The OpenSCAD GUI is a flexible tool for interactively editing a script with instant feedback in the rendered preview, and supporting information from the console, error log and other information panels. [[File:OpenSCAD Main Window.png|frame|Main Window with the OpenSCAD-Logo]] [[File:Snapshop-window-list.png|frameless|right|alt=The Windows Menu allows one to select which of the information panels to show|Windows Menu - list of information windows]] By default the application window shows three panels: * Editing Panel * Preview * Console === Text editor === The powerful Scintilla based editor offers all of the features that a modern programmers tool should offer: * multiple files open on tabs * search & replace * syntax highlighting * keyword and argument list completion * interactive value change * indenting * apply and remove comments == Interactive modification of the numerical value == It is possible to change a numeric value in the source code and observe the result in real time. Placing the cursor after a digit and pressing Alt+ up arrow or Alt + down arrow will increment or decrement the chosen digit. The object is re-rendered and displayed in ''preview mode'' after each change of the selected number in the source code. The cursor is moved after the next digit by Alt + right arrow, the further decimal digits are added when needed by moving the cursor after the last digit on the right side. The cursor is moved left behind the most significant digits of the number by Alt + left arrow. {{{OSSpecific|MacOS|text=use Option + Shift instead of Alt}}} {| class="wikitable" !Key !Description |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Up Arrow}} |Increment the numeric value to the left of the cursor and preview the object. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Down Arrow}} |Decrement the numeric value to the left of the cursor and preview the object. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Left Arrow}} |Move the cursor left to more significant digit. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} |Move the cursor right to less significant digit, eventually add one more decimal digit. |} {{multiple image | align = center | width = 220 | footer = OpenSCAD Editor with Find / Replace functionality. | image1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog.png | alt1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog | image2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog.png | alt2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog }} == Preview== Preview and rendering output goes into the viewing area. Using the ''Show Axes'' menu entry an indicator for the coordinate axes can be enabled. === Console window === Status information, warnings and errors are displayed in the console window. During a render a progress-bar is displayed at the bottom of the console. It includes a Cancel button to stop the render. <br> [[File:OpenSCAD Cancel Button - cancels the render.jpg|left|A render can be cancel using the X button at the end of the progress bar.]] {{clear}} == Preview == The viewing area is navigated primarily using the mouse: {|class="wikitable" !Action !Icons !Description |- |rowspan=2|rotating the view |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] | Dragging with the left mouse button rotates the view along the axes of the viewing area. It preserves the vertical axis' direction. Double-click the left button to set the point of rotation. |- |{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] |Dragging with the left mouse button when the shift key is pressed rotates the view along the vertical axis and the axis pointing towards the user. |- |moving the viewing area |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |Dragging with the right mouse button moves the viewing area. |- |rowspan=5|zooming |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Mouse wheel up.svg|24px]][[File:Mouse wheel down.svg|24px]] |Using the scroll wheel |- |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |Dragging with the middle mouse button |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |rowspan=2|Dragging with the right or middle mouse button and the shift key pressed |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |- |style="text-align: center;"|''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' |The keys ''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' (''{{key press|Ctrl+[}}'' and ''{{key press|Ctrl+]}}'') |- |show/hide rotation center |{{key press|Ctrl|3}} |Turn on or off the graphic showing the center of rotation. (It is always in the center of the viewing area). |- |rotation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|0}} |Rotation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|0}}. |- |translation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|}} + </br> {{key press|Shift|0}} |Translation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|Shift|0}}. |} == View setup == The viewing area can be configured to use different rendering methods and other options using the View menu. Most of the options described here are available using shortcuts as well. === Render modes === ==== OpenCSG (F9) ==== This method produces instantaneous results, but has low frame rates when working with highly non convex objects. Selecting the OpenCSG mode using F9 switches to the last generated OpenCSG view, but does not re-evaluate the source code. You may want to use the ''Compile'' function (F5, found in the ''Design'' menu) to re-evaluate the source code, build the OpenCSG objects and ''then'' switch to OpenCSG view. ===== Implementation Details ===== In OpenCSG mode, the [http://opencsg.org/ OpenCSG library] is used for generating the visible model. This library uses advanced OpenGL features (2.0) like the Z buffer and does not require an explicit description of the resulting mesh – instead, it tracks how objects are to be combined. For example, when rendering a spherical dent in a cube, it first renders the cube on the graphics card and then render the sphere, but instead of using the Z buffer to '''hide''' the parts of the sphere that are covered by the cube, it renders '''only''' those parts of the sphere, visually resulting in a cube with a spherical dent. ==== CGAL (Surfaces and Grid, F10 and F11) ==== This method might need some time when first used with a new program, but then has higher frame rates. As before with OpenCSG, F10 and F11 enable only CGAL display mode and don't update the underlying objects; for that, use the ''Compile and Render'' function (F6, found in the ''Design'' menu). To combine the benefits of those two display methods, you can selectively wrap parts of your program in a [[../The OpenSCAD Language#render|render]] function and force them to be baken into a mesh even with OpenCSG mode enabled. ===== Implementation Details ===== The acronym CGAL refers to The Open Source Computational Geometry Algorithms Library. In CGAL mode, the CGAL library is used to compute the mesh of the root object, which is then displayed using simple OpenGL. === View options === ==== ''Show Edges'' (Ctrl+1) ==== [[File:OpenSCAD edges CGAL vs OpenCSG.png|thumb|300px|The difference between the CGAL and OpenCSG approaches can be seen at edges created by boolean operations.]] If ''Show Edges'' is enabled, both OpenCSG and CGAL mode render edges as well as faces; CGAL even shows vertices. In CGAL grid mode, this option has no effect. Enabling this option shows the difference between OpenCSG and CGAL quite clearly: While in CGAL mode you see an edge drawn everywhere it "belongs", OpenCSG does not show edges resulting from boolean operations – this is because they were never explicitly calculated but are just where one object's Z clipping begins or ends. ==== ''Show Axes'' (Ctrl+2) ==== If ''Show Axes'' is enabled, the origin of the global coordinate system is indicated by an orthogonal axes indicator. Additionally, a smaller axes indicator with axes names are shown in the lower left corner of the viewing area. The smaller axes indicator is marked x, y, z and coloured red, green, blue respectively. ==== ''Show Crosshairs'' (Ctrl+3) ==== If ''Show Crosshairs'' is enabled, the center of the viewport is indicated by four lines pointing in the room diagonal directions of the global coordinate system. This is useful when aligning the viewing area to a particular point in the model to keep it centered on screen during rotation. === Animation === The ''Animate'' option adds an animation bar to the lower edge of the screen. As soon as ''FPS'' and ''Steps'' are set (reasonable values to begin with are 10 and 100, respectively), the current ''Time'' is incremented by 1/''Steps'', ''FPS'' times per second, until it reaches 1, when it wraps back to 0. Every time ''Time'' is changed, the program is re-evaluated with the variable <tt>$t</tt> set to the current time. Read more about how <tt>$t</tt> is used in section [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#$t| Other_Language_Features]]. === View alignment === The menu items ''Top, Bottom, …, Diagonal'' and ''Center'' (Ctrl+4, Ctrl+5, …, Ctrl+0, Ctrl+Shift+0) align the view to the global coordinate system. ''Top, Bottom, Left, Right, Front'' and ''Back'' align it in parallel to the axes, the ''Diagonal'' option aligns it diagonally as it is aligned when OpenSCAD starts. The ''Center'' option puts the coordinate center in the middle of the screen (but not rotate the view). By default, the view is in ''Perspective'' mode, meaning that distances far away from the viewer appear shorter, as seen in the real world eyes or cameras. When the view mode is changed to ''Orthogonal'', visible distances do not depend on the camera distance (the view simulates a camera at an infinite distance with an infinite focal length). This is especially useful in combination with the ''Top'' etc. options described above, as these orthogonal views result in a 2D images similar to what one would see in an engineering drawing. {{BookCat}} [[ru:Руководство пользователя по OpenSCAD/Пользовательский интерфейс OpenSCAD]] [[it:OpenSCAD/Interfaccia_utente_OpenSCAD]] rz7zd21d7y19ow62he1fq9h9bppqacg 4520824 4520823 2025-07-01T18:45:33Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 /* Interactive modification of the numerical value */ got the OSSpecific template to work 4520824 wikitext text/x-wiki = Graphic User Interface = The OpenSCAD GUI is a flexible tool for interactively editing a script with instant feedback in the rendered preview, and supporting information from the console, error log and other information panels. [[File:OpenSCAD Main Window.png|frame|Main Window with the OpenSCAD-Logo]] [[File:Snapshop-window-list.png|frameless|right|alt=The Windows Menu allows one to select which of the information panels to show|Windows Menu - list of information windows]] By default the application window shows three panels: * Editing Panel * Preview * Console === Text editor === The powerful Scintilla based editor offers all of the features that a modern programmers tool should offer: * multiple files open on tabs * search & replace * syntax highlighting * keyword and argument list completion * interactive value change * indenting * apply and remove comments == Interactive modification of the numerical value == It is possible to change a numeric value in the source code and observe the result in real time. Placing the cursor after a digit and pressing Alt+ up arrow or Alt + down arrow will increment or decrement the chosen digit. The object is re-rendered and displayed in ''preview mode'' after each change of the selected number in the source code. The cursor is moved after the next digit by Alt + right arrow, the further decimal digits are added when needed by moving the cursor after the last digit on the right side. The cursor is moved left behind the most significant digits of the number by Alt + left arrow. {{OSSpecific | OS = MacOS | text = use Option + Shift instead of Alt }} {| class="wikitable" !Key !Description |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Up Arrow}} |Increment the numeric value to the left of the cursor and preview the object. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Down Arrow}} |Decrement the numeric value to the left of the cursor and preview the object. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Left Arrow}} |Move the cursor left to more significant digit. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} |Move the cursor right to less significant digit, eventually add one more decimal digit. |} {{multiple image | align = center | width = 220 | footer = OpenSCAD Editor with Find / Replace functionality. | image1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog.png | alt1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog | image2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog.png | alt2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog }} == Preview== Preview and rendering output goes into the viewing area. Using the ''Show Axes'' menu entry an indicator for the coordinate axes can be enabled. === Console window === Status information, warnings and errors are displayed in the console window. During a render a progress-bar is displayed at the bottom of the console. It includes a Cancel button to stop the render. <br> [[File:OpenSCAD Cancel Button - cancels the render.jpg|left|A render can be cancel using the X button at the end of the progress bar.]] {{clear}} == Preview == The viewing area is navigated primarily using the mouse: {|class="wikitable" !Action !Icons !Description |- |rowspan=2|rotating the view |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] | Dragging with the left mouse button rotates the view along the axes of the viewing area. It preserves the vertical axis' direction. Double-click the left button to set the point of rotation. |- |{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] |Dragging with the left mouse button when the shift key is pressed rotates the view along the vertical axis and the axis pointing towards the user. |- |moving the viewing area |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |Dragging with the right mouse button moves the viewing area. |- |rowspan=5|zooming |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Mouse wheel up.svg|24px]][[File:Mouse wheel down.svg|24px]] |Using the scroll wheel |- |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |Dragging with the middle mouse button |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |rowspan=2|Dragging with the right or middle mouse button and the shift key pressed |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |- |style="text-align: center;"|''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' |The keys ''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' (''{{key press|Ctrl+[}}'' and ''{{key press|Ctrl+]}}'') |- |show/hide rotation center |{{key press|Ctrl|3}} |Turn on or off the graphic showing the center of rotation. (It is always in the center of the viewing area). |- |rotation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|0}} |Rotation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|0}}. |- |translation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|}} + </br> {{key press|Shift|0}} |Translation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|Shift|0}}. |} == View setup == The viewing area can be configured to use different rendering methods and other options using the View menu. Most of the options described here are available using shortcuts as well. === Render modes === ==== OpenCSG (F9) ==== This method produces instantaneous results, but has low frame rates when working with highly non convex objects. Selecting the OpenCSG mode using F9 switches to the last generated OpenCSG view, but does not re-evaluate the source code. You may want to use the ''Compile'' function (F5, found in the ''Design'' menu) to re-evaluate the source code, build the OpenCSG objects and ''then'' switch to OpenCSG view. ===== Implementation Details ===== In OpenCSG mode, the [http://opencsg.org/ OpenCSG library] is used for generating the visible model. This library uses advanced OpenGL features (2.0) like the Z buffer and does not require an explicit description of the resulting mesh – instead, it tracks how objects are to be combined. For example, when rendering a spherical dent in a cube, it first renders the cube on the graphics card and then render the sphere, but instead of using the Z buffer to '''hide''' the parts of the sphere that are covered by the cube, it renders '''only''' those parts of the sphere, visually resulting in a cube with a spherical dent. ==== CGAL (Surfaces and Grid, F10 and F11) ==== This method might need some time when first used with a new program, but then has higher frame rates. As before with OpenCSG, F10 and F11 enable only CGAL display mode and don't update the underlying objects; for that, use the ''Compile and Render'' function (F6, found in the ''Design'' menu). To combine the benefits of those two display methods, you can selectively wrap parts of your program in a [[../The OpenSCAD Language#render|render]] function and force them to be baken into a mesh even with OpenCSG mode enabled. ===== Implementation Details ===== The acronym CGAL refers to The Open Source Computational Geometry Algorithms Library. In CGAL mode, the CGAL library is used to compute the mesh of the root object, which is then displayed using simple OpenGL. === View options === ==== ''Show Edges'' (Ctrl+1) ==== [[File:OpenSCAD edges CGAL vs OpenCSG.png|thumb|300px|The difference between the CGAL and OpenCSG approaches can be seen at edges created by boolean operations.]] If ''Show Edges'' is enabled, both OpenCSG and CGAL mode render edges as well as faces; CGAL even shows vertices. In CGAL grid mode, this option has no effect. Enabling this option shows the difference between OpenCSG and CGAL quite clearly: While in CGAL mode you see an edge drawn everywhere it "belongs", OpenCSG does not show edges resulting from boolean operations – this is because they were never explicitly calculated but are just where one object's Z clipping begins or ends. ==== ''Show Axes'' (Ctrl+2) ==== If ''Show Axes'' is enabled, the origin of the global coordinate system is indicated by an orthogonal axes indicator. Additionally, a smaller axes indicator with axes names are shown in the lower left corner of the viewing area. The smaller axes indicator is marked x, y, z and coloured red, green, blue respectively. ==== ''Show Crosshairs'' (Ctrl+3) ==== If ''Show Crosshairs'' is enabled, the center of the viewport is indicated by four lines pointing in the room diagonal directions of the global coordinate system. This is useful when aligning the viewing area to a particular point in the model to keep it centered on screen during rotation. === Animation === The ''Animate'' option adds an animation bar to the lower edge of the screen. As soon as ''FPS'' and ''Steps'' are set (reasonable values to begin with are 10 and 100, respectively), the current ''Time'' is incremented by 1/''Steps'', ''FPS'' times per second, until it reaches 1, when it wraps back to 0. Every time ''Time'' is changed, the program is re-evaluated with the variable <tt>$t</tt> set to the current time. Read more about how <tt>$t</tt> is used in section [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#$t| Other_Language_Features]]. === View alignment === The menu items ''Top, Bottom, …, Diagonal'' and ''Center'' (Ctrl+4, Ctrl+5, …, Ctrl+0, Ctrl+Shift+0) align the view to the global coordinate system. ''Top, Bottom, Left, Right, Front'' and ''Back'' align it in parallel to the axes, the ''Diagonal'' option aligns it diagonally as it is aligned when OpenSCAD starts. The ''Center'' option puts the coordinate center in the middle of the screen (but not rotate the view). By default, the view is in ''Perspective'' mode, meaning that distances far away from the viewer appear shorter, as seen in the real world eyes or cameras. When the view mode is changed to ''Orthogonal'', visible distances do not depend on the camera distance (the view simulates a camera at an infinite distance with an infinite focal length). This is especially useful in combination with the ''Top'' etc. options described above, as these orthogonal views result in a 2D images similar to what one would see in an engineering drawing. {{BookCat}} [[ru:Руководство пользователя по OpenSCAD/Пользовательский интерфейс OpenSCAD]] [[it:OpenSCAD/Interfaccia_utente_OpenSCAD]] jkz1jtoh4va0je00ajrrrni8pt1zfz6 4520826 4520824 2025-07-01T18:46:14Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 /* Text editor */ 4520826 wikitext text/x-wiki = Graphic User Interface = The OpenSCAD GUI is a flexible tool for interactively editing a script with instant feedback in the rendered preview, and supporting information from the console, error log and other information panels. [[File:OpenSCAD Main Window.png|frame|Main Window with the OpenSCAD-Logo]] [[File:Snapshop-window-list.png|frameless|right|alt=The Windows Menu allows one to select which of the information panels to show|Windows Menu - list of information windows]] By default the application window shows three panels: * Editing Panel * Preview * Console == Text Editor == The powerful Scintilla based editor offers all of the features that a modern programmers tool should offer: * multiple files open on tabs * search & replace * syntax highlighting * keyword and argument list completion * interactive value change * indenting * apply and remove comments == Interactive modification of the numerical value == It is possible to change a numeric value in the source code and observe the result in real time. Placing the cursor after a digit and pressing Alt+ up arrow or Alt + down arrow will increment or decrement the chosen digit. The object is re-rendered and displayed in ''preview mode'' after each change of the selected number in the source code. The cursor is moved after the next digit by Alt + right arrow, the further decimal digits are added when needed by moving the cursor after the last digit on the right side. The cursor is moved left behind the most significant digits of the number by Alt + left arrow. {{OSSpecific | OS = MacOS | text = use Option + Shift instead of Alt }} {| class="wikitable" !Key !Description |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Up Arrow}} |Increment the numeric value to the left of the cursor and preview the object. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Down Arrow}} |Decrement the numeric value to the left of the cursor and preview the object. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Left Arrow}} |Move the cursor left to more significant digit. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} |Move the cursor right to less significant digit, eventually add one more decimal digit. |} {{multiple image | align = center | width = 220 | footer = OpenSCAD Editor with Find / Replace functionality. | image1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog.png | alt1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog | image2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog.png | alt2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog }} == Preview== Preview and rendering output goes into the viewing area. Using the ''Show Axes'' menu entry an indicator for the coordinate axes can be enabled. === Console window === Status information, warnings and errors are displayed in the console window. During a render a progress-bar is displayed at the bottom of the console. It includes a Cancel button to stop the render. <br> [[File:OpenSCAD Cancel Button - cancels the render.jpg|left|A render can be cancel using the X button at the end of the progress bar.]] {{clear}} == Preview == The viewing area is navigated primarily using the mouse: {|class="wikitable" !Action !Icons !Description |- |rowspan=2|rotating the view |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] | Dragging with the left mouse button rotates the view along the axes of the viewing area. It preserves the vertical axis' direction. Double-click the left button to set the point of rotation. |- |{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] |Dragging with the left mouse button when the shift key is pressed rotates the view along the vertical axis and the axis pointing towards the user. |- |moving the viewing area |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |Dragging with the right mouse button moves the viewing area. |- |rowspan=5|zooming |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Mouse wheel up.svg|24px]][[File:Mouse wheel down.svg|24px]] |Using the scroll wheel |- |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |Dragging with the middle mouse button |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |rowspan=2|Dragging with the right or middle mouse button and the shift key pressed |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |- |style="text-align: center;"|''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' |The keys ''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' (''{{key press|Ctrl+[}}'' and ''{{key press|Ctrl+]}}'') |- |show/hide rotation center |{{key press|Ctrl|3}} |Turn on or off the graphic showing the center of rotation. (It is always in the center of the viewing area). |- |rotation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|0}} |Rotation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|0}}. |- |translation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|}} + </br> {{key press|Shift|0}} |Translation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|Shift|0}}. |} == View setup == The viewing area can be configured to use different rendering methods and other options using the View menu. Most of the options described here are available using shortcuts as well. === Render modes === ==== OpenCSG (F9) ==== This method produces instantaneous results, but has low frame rates when working with highly non convex objects. Selecting the OpenCSG mode using F9 switches to the last generated OpenCSG view, but does not re-evaluate the source code. You may want to use the ''Compile'' function (F5, found in the ''Design'' menu) to re-evaluate the source code, build the OpenCSG objects and ''then'' switch to OpenCSG view. ===== Implementation Details ===== In OpenCSG mode, the [http://opencsg.org/ OpenCSG library] is used for generating the visible model. This library uses advanced OpenGL features (2.0) like the Z buffer and does not require an explicit description of the resulting mesh – instead, it tracks how objects are to be combined. For example, when rendering a spherical dent in a cube, it first renders the cube on the graphics card and then render the sphere, but instead of using the Z buffer to '''hide''' the parts of the sphere that are covered by the cube, it renders '''only''' those parts of the sphere, visually resulting in a cube with a spherical dent. ==== CGAL (Surfaces and Grid, F10 and F11) ==== This method might need some time when first used with a new program, but then has higher frame rates. As before with OpenCSG, F10 and F11 enable only CGAL display mode and don't update the underlying objects; for that, use the ''Compile and Render'' function (F6, found in the ''Design'' menu). To combine the benefits of those two display methods, you can selectively wrap parts of your program in a [[../The OpenSCAD Language#render|render]] function and force them to be baken into a mesh even with OpenCSG mode enabled. ===== Implementation Details ===== The acronym CGAL refers to The Open Source Computational Geometry Algorithms Library. In CGAL mode, the CGAL library is used to compute the mesh of the root object, which is then displayed using simple OpenGL. === View options === ==== ''Show Edges'' (Ctrl+1) ==== [[File:OpenSCAD edges CGAL vs OpenCSG.png|thumb|300px|The difference between the CGAL and OpenCSG approaches can be seen at edges created by boolean operations.]] If ''Show Edges'' is enabled, both OpenCSG and CGAL mode render edges as well as faces; CGAL even shows vertices. In CGAL grid mode, this option has no effect. Enabling this option shows the difference between OpenCSG and CGAL quite clearly: While in CGAL mode you see an edge drawn everywhere it "belongs", OpenCSG does not show edges resulting from boolean operations – this is because they were never explicitly calculated but are just where one object's Z clipping begins or ends. ==== ''Show Axes'' (Ctrl+2) ==== If ''Show Axes'' is enabled, the origin of the global coordinate system is indicated by an orthogonal axes indicator. Additionally, a smaller axes indicator with axes names are shown in the lower left corner of the viewing area. The smaller axes indicator is marked x, y, z and coloured red, green, blue respectively. ==== ''Show Crosshairs'' (Ctrl+3) ==== If ''Show Crosshairs'' is enabled, the center of the viewport is indicated by four lines pointing in the room diagonal directions of the global coordinate system. This is useful when aligning the viewing area to a particular point in the model to keep it centered on screen during rotation. === Animation === The ''Animate'' option adds an animation bar to the lower edge of the screen. As soon as ''FPS'' and ''Steps'' are set (reasonable values to begin with are 10 and 100, respectively), the current ''Time'' is incremented by 1/''Steps'', ''FPS'' times per second, until it reaches 1, when it wraps back to 0. Every time ''Time'' is changed, the program is re-evaluated with the variable <tt>$t</tt> set to the current time. Read more about how <tt>$t</tt> is used in section [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#$t| Other_Language_Features]]. === View alignment === The menu items ''Top, Bottom, …, Diagonal'' and ''Center'' (Ctrl+4, Ctrl+5, …, Ctrl+0, Ctrl+Shift+0) align the view to the global coordinate system. ''Top, Bottom, Left, Right, Front'' and ''Back'' align it in parallel to the axes, the ''Diagonal'' option aligns it diagonally as it is aligned when OpenSCAD starts. The ''Center'' option puts the coordinate center in the middle of the screen (but not rotate the view). By default, the view is in ''Perspective'' mode, meaning that distances far away from the viewer appear shorter, as seen in the real world eyes or cameras. When the view mode is changed to ''Orthogonal'', visible distances do not depend on the camera distance (the view simulates a camera at an infinite distance with an infinite focal length). This is especially useful in combination with the ''Top'' etc. options described above, as these orthogonal views result in a 2D images similar to what one would see in an engineering drawing. {{BookCat}} [[ru:Руководство пользователя по OpenSCAD/Пользовательский интерфейс OpenSCAD]] [[it:OpenSCAD/Interfaccia_utente_OpenSCAD]] ed6wjoq277vqqb2c4fffrg0p8m1z9ym 4520836 4520826 2025-07-01T19:05:48Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 /* Interactive modification of the numerical value */ change all key references to use {{key press|Alt}} and updated text for clarity 4520836 wikitext text/x-wiki = Graphic User Interface = The OpenSCAD GUI is a flexible tool for interactively editing a script with instant feedback in the rendered preview, and supporting information from the console, error log and other information panels. [[File:OpenSCAD Main Window.png|frame|Main Window with the OpenSCAD-Logo]] [[File:Snapshop-window-list.png|frameless|right|alt=The Windows Menu allows one to select which of the information panels to show|Windows Menu - list of information windows]] By default the application window shows three panels: * Editing Panel * Preview * Console == Text Editor == The powerful Scintilla based editor offers all of the features that a modern programmers tool should offer: * multiple files open on tabs * search & replace * syntax highlighting * keyword and argument list completion * interactive value change * indenting * apply and remove comments === Interactive Modification of An Number === It is possible to change a numeric value in the source code and observe the result in real time. Place the cursor after a numeric digit and, while holding the {{key press|Alt}} key, use the up arrow to increment the digit and down arrow to decrements. The Preview is re-rendered after every change. {{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} or + {{key press|Left Arrow}} move the cursor to the next less significant and next more significant digit respectively. In addition, when the cursor is at the least significant digit the {{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} will add a decimal point and the first digit of the fractional component, and more significant digits thereafter. {{OSSpecific | OS = MacOS | text = use {{key press|Option}}+{{key press|Shift}} instead of + {{key press|Alt}} }} {| class="wikitable" !Key Combo !Description |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Up Arrow}} |Increment the numeric value to the left of the cursor. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Down Arrow}} |Decrement the numeric value to the left of the cursor. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Left Arrow}} |Move the cursor left to the next most significant digit. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} |Move the cursor right to the next less significant digit, and possibly a fraction. |} {{multiple image | align = center | width = 220 | footer = OpenSCAD Editor with Find / Replace functionality. | image1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog.png | alt1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog | image2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog.png | alt2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog }} == Preview== Preview and rendering output goes into the viewing area. Using the ''Show Axes'' menu entry an indicator for the coordinate axes can be enabled. === Console window === Status information, warnings and errors are displayed in the console window. During a render a progress-bar is displayed at the bottom of the console. It includes a Cancel button to stop the render. <br> [[File:OpenSCAD Cancel Button - cancels the render.jpg|left|A render can be cancel using the X button at the end of the progress bar.]] {{clear}} == Preview == The viewing area is navigated primarily using the mouse: {|class="wikitable" !Action !Icons !Description |- |rowspan=2|rotating the view |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] | Dragging with the left mouse button rotates the view along the axes of the viewing area. It preserves the vertical axis' direction. Double-click the left button to set the point of rotation. |- |{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] |Dragging with the left mouse button when the shift key is pressed rotates the view along the vertical axis and the axis pointing towards the user. |- |moving the viewing area |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |Dragging with the right mouse button moves the viewing area. |- |rowspan=5|zooming |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Mouse wheel up.svg|24px]][[File:Mouse wheel down.svg|24px]] |Using the scroll wheel |- |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |Dragging with the middle mouse button |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |rowspan=2|Dragging with the right or middle mouse button and the shift key pressed |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |- |style="text-align: center;"|''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' |The keys ''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' (''{{key press|Ctrl+[}}'' and ''{{key press|Ctrl+]}}'') |- |show/hide rotation center |{{key press|Ctrl|3}} |Turn on or off the graphic showing the center of rotation. (It is always in the center of the viewing area). |- |rotation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|0}} |Rotation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|0}}. |- |translation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|}} + </br> {{key press|Shift|0}} |Translation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|Shift|0}}. |} == View setup == The viewing area can be configured to use different rendering methods and other options using the View menu. Most of the options described here are available using shortcuts as well. === Render modes === ==== OpenCSG (F9) ==== This method produces instantaneous results, but has low frame rates when working with highly non convex objects. Selecting the OpenCSG mode using F9 switches to the last generated OpenCSG view, but does not re-evaluate the source code. You may want to use the ''Compile'' function (F5, found in the ''Design'' menu) to re-evaluate the source code, build the OpenCSG objects and ''then'' switch to OpenCSG view. ===== Implementation Details ===== In OpenCSG mode, the [http://opencsg.org/ OpenCSG library] is used for generating the visible model. This library uses advanced OpenGL features (2.0) like the Z buffer and does not require an explicit description of the resulting mesh – instead, it tracks how objects are to be combined. For example, when rendering a spherical dent in a cube, it first renders the cube on the graphics card and then render the sphere, but instead of using the Z buffer to '''hide''' the parts of the sphere that are covered by the cube, it renders '''only''' those parts of the sphere, visually resulting in a cube with a spherical dent. ==== CGAL (Surfaces and Grid, F10 and F11) ==== This method might need some time when first used with a new program, but then has higher frame rates. As before with OpenCSG, F10 and F11 enable only CGAL display mode and don't update the underlying objects; for that, use the ''Compile and Render'' function (F6, found in the ''Design'' menu). To combine the benefits of those two display methods, you can selectively wrap parts of your program in a [[../The OpenSCAD Language#render|render]] function and force them to be baken into a mesh even with OpenCSG mode enabled. ===== Implementation Details ===== The acronym CGAL refers to The Open Source Computational Geometry Algorithms Library. In CGAL mode, the CGAL library is used to compute the mesh of the root object, which is then displayed using simple OpenGL. === View options === ==== ''Show Edges'' (Ctrl+1) ==== [[File:OpenSCAD edges CGAL vs OpenCSG.png|thumb|300px|The difference between the CGAL and OpenCSG approaches can be seen at edges created by boolean operations.]] If ''Show Edges'' is enabled, both OpenCSG and CGAL mode render edges as well as faces; CGAL even shows vertices. In CGAL grid mode, this option has no effect. Enabling this option shows the difference between OpenCSG and CGAL quite clearly: While in CGAL mode you see an edge drawn everywhere it "belongs", OpenCSG does not show edges resulting from boolean operations – this is because they were never explicitly calculated but are just where one object's Z clipping begins or ends. ==== ''Show Axes'' (Ctrl+2) ==== If ''Show Axes'' is enabled, the origin of the global coordinate system is indicated by an orthogonal axes indicator. Additionally, a smaller axes indicator with axes names are shown in the lower left corner of the viewing area. The smaller axes indicator is marked x, y, z and coloured red, green, blue respectively. ==== ''Show Crosshairs'' (Ctrl+3) ==== If ''Show Crosshairs'' is enabled, the center of the viewport is indicated by four lines pointing in the room diagonal directions of the global coordinate system. This is useful when aligning the viewing area to a particular point in the model to keep it centered on screen during rotation. === Animation === The ''Animate'' option adds an animation bar to the lower edge of the screen. As soon as ''FPS'' and ''Steps'' are set (reasonable values to begin with are 10 and 100, respectively), the current ''Time'' is incremented by 1/''Steps'', ''FPS'' times per second, until it reaches 1, when it wraps back to 0. Every time ''Time'' is changed, the program is re-evaluated with the variable <tt>$t</tt> set to the current time. Read more about how <tt>$t</tt> is used in section [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#$t| Other_Language_Features]]. === View alignment === The menu items ''Top, Bottom, …, Diagonal'' and ''Center'' (Ctrl+4, Ctrl+5, …, Ctrl+0, Ctrl+Shift+0) align the view to the global coordinate system. ''Top, Bottom, Left, Right, Front'' and ''Back'' align it in parallel to the axes, the ''Diagonal'' option aligns it diagonally as it is aligned when OpenSCAD starts. The ''Center'' option puts the coordinate center in the middle of the screen (but not rotate the view). By default, the view is in ''Perspective'' mode, meaning that distances far away from the viewer appear shorter, as seen in the real world eyes or cameras. When the view mode is changed to ''Orthogonal'', visible distances do not depend on the camera distance (the view simulates a camera at an infinite distance with an infinite focal length). This is especially useful in combination with the ''Top'' etc. options described above, as these orthogonal views result in a 2D images similar to what one would see in an engineering drawing. {{BookCat}} [[ru:Руководство пользователя по OpenSCAD/Пользовательский интерфейс OpenSCAD]] [[it:OpenSCAD/Interfaccia_utente_OpenSCAD]] 58qkfjscnlk1dzycdimtve87wkchmmr 4520837 4520836 2025-07-01T19:20:19Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 /* Preview */ restructuring the preview and console sections .. correcting and editing the text 4520837 wikitext text/x-wiki = Graphic User Interface = The OpenSCAD GUI is a flexible tool for interactively editing a script with instant feedback in the rendered preview, and supporting information from the console, error log and other information panels. [[File:OpenSCAD Main Window.png|frame|Main Window with the OpenSCAD-Logo]] [[File:Snapshop-window-list.png|frameless|right|alt=The Windows Menu allows one to select which of the information panels to show|Windows Menu - list of information windows]] By default the application window shows three panels: * Editing Panel * Preview * Console == Text Editor == The powerful Scintilla based editor offers all of the features that a modern programmers tool should offer: * multiple files open on tabs * search & replace * syntax highlighting * keyword and argument list completion * interactive value change * indenting * apply and remove comments === Interactive Modification of An Number === It is possible to change a numeric value in the source code and observe the result in real time. Place the cursor after a numeric digit and, while holding the {{key press|Alt}} key, use the up arrow to increment the digit and down arrow to decrements. The Preview is re-rendered after every change. {{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} or + {{key press|Left Arrow}} move the cursor to the next less significant and next more significant digit respectively. In addition, when the cursor is at the least significant digit the {{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} will add a decimal point and the first digit of the fractional component, and more significant digits thereafter. {{OSSpecific | OS = MacOS | text = use {{key press|Option}}+{{key press|Shift}} instead of + {{key press|Alt}} }} {| class="wikitable" !Key Combo !Description |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Up Arrow}} |Increment the numeric value to the left of the cursor. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Down Arrow}} |Decrement the numeric value to the left of the cursor. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Left Arrow}} |Move the cursor left to the next most significant digit. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} |Move the cursor right to the next less significant digit, and possibly a fraction. |} {{multiple image | align = center | width = 220 | footer = OpenSCAD Editor with Find / Replace functionality. | image1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog.png | alt1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog | image2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog.png | alt2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog }} == Preview== The Preview rendering is updated automatically after any change to the script or the [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Customizer|Customizer]] data. There are a number of options on the View menu that enable objects in the Preview, like ''Show Axes'' to display coloured pointers for the 3 Coordinate Axes. == Console == Shows information from the operation of the app, normally just the results of compiling a program or the rendering results. Compilation may emit warnings, errors and assertion faults, as well as messages emitted by [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#Echo_As_A_Module|Echo()]] in the program. During a full (F6) rendering a progress-bar is displayed in the bottom frame border of the console, with a Cancel button that can interrupt it. [[File:OpenSCAD Cancel Button - cancels the render.jpg|left|A render can be cancel using the X button at the end of the progress bar.]] {{clear}} == Preview == The viewing area is navigated primarily using the mouse: {|class="wikitable" !Action !Icons !Description |- |rowspan=2|rotating the view |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] | Dragging with the left mouse button rotates the view along the axes of the viewing area. It preserves the vertical axis' direction. Double-click the left button to set the point of rotation. |- |{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] |Dragging with the left mouse button when the shift key is pressed rotates the view along the vertical axis and the axis pointing towards the user. |- |moving the viewing area |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |Dragging with the right mouse button moves the viewing area. |- |rowspan=5|zooming |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Mouse wheel up.svg|24px]][[File:Mouse wheel down.svg|24px]] |Using the scroll wheel |- |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |Dragging with the middle mouse button |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |rowspan=2|Dragging with the right or middle mouse button and the shift key pressed |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |- |style="text-align: center;"|''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' |The keys ''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' (''{{key press|Ctrl+[}}'' and ''{{key press|Ctrl+]}}'') |- |show/hide rotation center |{{key press|Ctrl|3}} |Turn on or off the graphic showing the center of rotation. (It is always in the center of the viewing area). |- |rotation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|0}} |Rotation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|0}}. |- |translation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|}} + </br> {{key press|Shift|0}} |Translation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|Shift|0}}. |} == View setup == The viewing area can be configured to use different rendering methods and other options using the View menu. Most of the options described here are available using shortcuts as well. === Render modes === ==== OpenCSG (F9) ==== This method produces instantaneous results, but has low frame rates when working with highly non convex objects. Selecting the OpenCSG mode using F9 switches to the last generated OpenCSG view, but does not re-evaluate the source code. You may want to use the ''Compile'' function (F5, found in the ''Design'' menu) to re-evaluate the source code, build the OpenCSG objects and ''then'' switch to OpenCSG view. ===== Implementation Details ===== In OpenCSG mode, the [http://opencsg.org/ OpenCSG library] is used for generating the visible model. This library uses advanced OpenGL features (2.0) like the Z buffer and does not require an explicit description of the resulting mesh – instead, it tracks how objects are to be combined. For example, when rendering a spherical dent in a cube, it first renders the cube on the graphics card and then render the sphere, but instead of using the Z buffer to '''hide''' the parts of the sphere that are covered by the cube, it renders '''only''' those parts of the sphere, visually resulting in a cube with a spherical dent. ==== CGAL (Surfaces and Grid, F10 and F11) ==== This method might need some time when first used with a new program, but then has higher frame rates. As before with OpenCSG, F10 and F11 enable only CGAL display mode and don't update the underlying objects; for that, use the ''Compile and Render'' function (F6, found in the ''Design'' menu). To combine the benefits of those two display methods, you can selectively wrap parts of your program in a [[../The OpenSCAD Language#render|render]] function and force them to be baken into a mesh even with OpenCSG mode enabled. ===== Implementation Details ===== The acronym CGAL refers to The Open Source Computational Geometry Algorithms Library. In CGAL mode, the CGAL library is used to compute the mesh of the root object, which is then displayed using simple OpenGL. === View options === ==== ''Show Edges'' (Ctrl+1) ==== [[File:OpenSCAD edges CGAL vs OpenCSG.png|thumb|300px|The difference between the CGAL and OpenCSG approaches can be seen at edges created by boolean operations.]] If ''Show Edges'' is enabled, both OpenCSG and CGAL mode render edges as well as faces; CGAL even shows vertices. In CGAL grid mode, this option has no effect. Enabling this option shows the difference between OpenCSG and CGAL quite clearly: While in CGAL mode you see an edge drawn everywhere it "belongs", OpenCSG does not show edges resulting from boolean operations – this is because they were never explicitly calculated but are just where one object's Z clipping begins or ends. ==== ''Show Axes'' (Ctrl+2) ==== If ''Show Axes'' is enabled, the origin of the global coordinate system is indicated by an orthogonal axes indicator. Additionally, a smaller axes indicator with axes names are shown in the lower left corner of the viewing area. The smaller axes indicator is marked x, y, z and coloured red, green, blue respectively. ==== ''Show Crosshairs'' (Ctrl+3) ==== If ''Show Crosshairs'' is enabled, the center of the viewport is indicated by four lines pointing in the room diagonal directions of the global coordinate system. This is useful when aligning the viewing area to a particular point in the model to keep it centered on screen during rotation. === Animation === The ''Animate'' option adds an animation bar to the lower edge of the screen. As soon as ''FPS'' and ''Steps'' are set (reasonable values to begin with are 10 and 100, respectively), the current ''Time'' is incremented by 1/''Steps'', ''FPS'' times per second, until it reaches 1, when it wraps back to 0. Every time ''Time'' is changed, the program is re-evaluated with the variable <tt>$t</tt> set to the current time. Read more about how <tt>$t</tt> is used in section [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#$t| Other_Language_Features]]. === View alignment === The menu items ''Top, Bottom, …, Diagonal'' and ''Center'' (Ctrl+4, Ctrl+5, …, Ctrl+0, Ctrl+Shift+0) align the view to the global coordinate system. ''Top, Bottom, Left, Right, Front'' and ''Back'' align it in parallel to the axes, the ''Diagonal'' option aligns it diagonally as it is aligned when OpenSCAD starts. The ''Center'' option puts the coordinate center in the middle of the screen (but not rotate the view). By default, the view is in ''Perspective'' mode, meaning that distances far away from the viewer appear shorter, as seen in the real world eyes or cameras. When the view mode is changed to ''Orthogonal'', visible distances do not depend on the camera distance (the view simulates a camera at an infinite distance with an infinite focal length). This is especially useful in combination with the ''Top'' etc. options described above, as these orthogonal views result in a 2D images similar to what one would see in an engineering drawing. {{BookCat}} [[ru:Руководство пользователя по OpenSCAD/Пользовательский интерфейс OpenSCAD]] [[it:OpenSCAD/Interfaccia_utente_OpenSCAD]] r9awa9be19s9sqg8etmhwd4oxvdrqe7 4520874 4520837 2025-07-01T22:06:53Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 added manifold preview section 4520874 wikitext text/x-wiki = Graphic User Interface = The OpenSCAD GUI is a flexible tool for interactively editing a script with instant feedback in the rendered preview, and supporting information from the console, error log and other information panels. [[File:OpenSCAD Main Window.png|frame|Main Window with the OpenSCAD-Logo]] [[File:Snapshop-window-list.png|frameless|right|alt=The Windows Menu allows one to select which of the information panels to show|Windows Menu - list of information windows]] By default the application window shows three panels: * Editing Panel * Console * Preview == Text Editor == The powerful Scintilla based editor offers all of the features that a modern programmers tool should offer: * multiple files open on tabs * search & replace * syntax highlighting * keyword and argument list completion * interactive value change * indenting * apply and remove comments === Interactive Modification of An Number === It is possible to change a numeric value in the source code and observe the result in real time. Place the cursor after a numeric digit and, while holding the {{key press|Alt}} key, use the up arrow to increment the digit and down arrow to decrements. The Preview is re-rendered after every change. {{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} or + {{key press|Left Arrow}} move the cursor to the next less significant and next more significant digit respectively. In addition, when the cursor is at the least significant digit the {{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} will add a decimal point and the first digit of the fractional component, and more significant digits thereafter. {{OSSpecific | OS = MacOS | text = use {{key press|Option}}+{{key press|Shift}} instead of + {{key press|Alt}} }} {| class="wikitable" !Key Combo !Description |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Up Arrow}} |Increment the numeric value to the left of the cursor. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Down Arrow}} |Decrement the numeric value to the left of the cursor. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Left Arrow}} |Move the cursor left to the next most significant digit. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} |Move the cursor right to the next less significant digit, and possibly a fraction. |} {{multiple image | align = center | width = 220 | footer = OpenSCAD Editor with Find / Replace functionality. | image1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog.png | alt1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog | image2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog.png | alt2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog }} == Console == Shows information from the operation of the app, normally just the results of compiling a program or the rendering results. Compilation may emit warnings, errors and assertion faults, as well as messages emitted by [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#Echo_As_A_Module|Echo()]] in the program. During a full (F6) rendering a progress-bar is displayed in the bottom frame border of the console, with a Cancel button that can interrupt it. [[File:OpenSCAD Cancel Button - cancels the render.jpg|left|A render can be cancel using the X button at the end of the progress bar.]] {{clear}} == Preview== The Preview rendering is updated automatically after any change to the script or the [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Customizer|Customizer]] data. There are a number of options on the View menu that enable objects in the Preview, like ''Show Axes'' to display coloured pointers for the 3 Coordinate Axes. The View menu shows the keyboard shortcuts for each option. The viewing area is navigated primarily using the mouse: {|class="wikitable" !Action !Icons !Description |- |rowspan=2|rotating the view |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] | Dragging with the left mouse button rotates the view along the axes of the viewing area. It preserves the vertical axis' direction. Double-click the left button to set the point of rotation. |- |{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] |Dragging with the left mouse button when the shift key is pressed rotates the view along the vertical axis and the axis pointing towards the user. |- |moving the viewing area |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |Dragging with the right mouse button moves the viewing area. |- |rowspan=5|zooming |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Mouse wheel up.svg|24px]][[File:Mouse wheel down.svg|24px]] |Using the scroll wheel |- |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |Dragging with the middle mouse button |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |rowspan=2|Dragging with the right or middle mouse button and the shift key pressed |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |- |style="text-align: center;"|''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' |The keys ''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' (''{{key press|Ctrl+[}}'' and ''{{key press|Ctrl+]}}'') |- |show/hide rotation center |{{key press|Ctrl|3}} |Turn on or off the graphic showing the center of rotation. (It is always in the center of the viewing area). |- |rotation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|0}} |Rotation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|0}}. |- |translation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|}} + </br> {{key press|Shift|0}} |Translation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|Shift|0}}. |} === Manifold Render Mode === {{requires|Dev Snapshot}} This method gives fast rendering for preview with few, if any, rendering artifacts from convoluted geometry. {{NOTE | note = This preview rendering engine ignores the convexity parameter }} === OpenCSG Render Mode (F9) === {{requires|pre-Snapshot versions}} This method gives fast rendering for preview, but slows significantly when working with convoluted objects. Selecting the [http://opencsg.org/ OpenCSG] mode using F9 switches to the last generated OpenCSG view, but does not re-run the source code. If Automatic-Reload and Preview is not enabled the Design-''Compile'' (F5) function triggers the evaluation of the source code torefresh the Preview. ==== CGAL Tesselate and Render ==== {{requires|pre-Snapshot versions}} This method of rendering was triggered using menu items with keybindings to F10 and F11 to tessellate and render, respectively, the model. These keybindings are removed in recent versions. CGAL is the Computational Geometry Algorithms Library, an open source tool set that includes tessellation and rendering functions. It is used to first build a polygonal mesh from the model and then render it. Using this tool set can be slower for single images but is a significant advantage when rendering multiple images from a model, for instance when animating It also produces a more accurate rendering of the surfaces in the model than the OpenCSG version can achieve. As with OpenCSG preview, F10 and F11 only enable the full render mode and don't run the program to update the model; for that, use the Design-''Compile and Render'' (F6) menu item should be used. It is possible to combine the benefits of these two display methods using the [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#Render_Operation|render() Operation Module]]. It generates the mesh that is then used as the basis for rendering, even with OpenCSG mode enabled. === View options === ==== ''Show Edges'' (Ctrl+1) ==== When ''Show Edges'' is enabled, both engines render edges as well as faces. In addition the CGAL rendering includes the vertices as well. {{Limitation|This option has no effect when CGAL grid mode is active}} [[File:OpenSCAD edges CGAL vs OpenCSG.png|thumb|CGAL rendering shows all edges.]] OpenCSG rendering does not consider edges created by boolean operations in a model, while the CGAL tessellation process does. ==== ''Show Axes'' (Ctrl+2) ==== When ''Show Axes'' is enabled an orthogonal axes indicator is displayed at the origin. Additionally, a smaller axes indicator is shown in the lower left corner of the viewing area. This three lines in this indicator are titled X, Y, and Z and are coloured red, green, blue respectively. ==== ''Show Crosshairs'' (Ctrl+3) ==== When ''Show Crosshairs'' is enabled, the center of the viewport is indicated by four lines pointing in the room diagonal directions of the global coordinate system. This is useful when aligning the viewing area to a particular point in the model to keep it centered on screen during rotation. === Animation === The menu item Window-''Animate'' enables the processing of an animation sequence, updating the model at each step, and optionally rendering images. An animation panel is added to the window, normally attached to the lower border in the central panel space. The panel has fields for the time value ($t), Frames Per Second (FPS) and Steps and controls for stopping and starting its operation, which starts Paused when the panel is opened. As soon as ''FPS'' and ''Steps'' are set animation begins, which is seen by the ''Time'' increasing. The animation period runs from zero to 1, divided into ''Steps'' moments at which the model will be evaluated and rendered. The ''FPS'' setting determines how many times per second frames should be rendered. Reasonable starting values are FPS=10 and Steps=100. The operation of an animation is controlled by [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#$t|Special Variable $t]]. === View alignment === The View menu items ''Top, Bottom, etc. align the view to look at the origin along their respective axis in the global coordinate system. The default view is ''Diagonal'', which looks at the origin along a vector of relative angles [-45,-45,-45] in degrees. The ''Center'' option centers the global coordinate origin in the view. The geometry of the viewing space can be calculated in two modes, ''Perspective'' and ''Orthogonal'', which are common to all 3D modelling applications. Using the directional view items, ''Top'', etc., in Orthogonal geometry mode has the effect of showing the model in the Top-Side-Front views of an engineering drawing. {{BookCat}} [[ru:Руководство пользователя по OpenSCAD/Пользовательский интерфейс OpenSCAD]] [[it:OpenSCAD/Interfaccia_utente_OpenSCAD]] 7v7d8htrum19bi7tcl6l7uw3u51y3eu 4520879 4520874 2025-07-01T22:13:04Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 /* Manifold Render Mode */ fiddling with NOTE template 4520879 wikitext text/x-wiki = Graphic User Interface = The OpenSCAD GUI is a flexible tool for interactively editing a script with instant feedback in the rendered preview, and supporting information from the console, error log and other information panels. [[File:OpenSCAD Main Window.png|frame|Main Window with the OpenSCAD-Logo]] [[File:Snapshop-window-list.png|frameless|right|alt=The Windows Menu allows one to select which of the information panels to show|Windows Menu - list of information windows]] By default the application window shows three panels: * Editing Panel * Console * Preview == Text Editor == The powerful Scintilla based editor offers all of the features that a modern programmers tool should offer: * multiple files open on tabs * search & replace * syntax highlighting * keyword and argument list completion * interactive value change * indenting * apply and remove comments === Interactive Modification of An Number === It is possible to change a numeric value in the source code and observe the result in real time. Place the cursor after a numeric digit and, while holding the {{key press|Alt}} key, use the up arrow to increment the digit and down arrow to decrements. The Preview is re-rendered after every change. {{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} or + {{key press|Left Arrow}} move the cursor to the next less significant and next more significant digit respectively. In addition, when the cursor is at the least significant digit the {{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} will add a decimal point and the first digit of the fractional component, and more significant digits thereafter. {{OSSpecific | OS = MacOS | text = use {{key press|Option}}+{{key press|Shift}} instead of + {{key press|Alt}} }} {| class="wikitable" !Key Combo !Description |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Up Arrow}} |Increment the numeric value to the left of the cursor. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Down Arrow}} |Decrement the numeric value to the left of the cursor. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Left Arrow}} |Move the cursor left to the next most significant digit. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} |Move the cursor right to the next less significant digit, and possibly a fraction. |} {{multiple image | align = center | width = 220 | footer = OpenSCAD Editor with Find / Replace functionality. | image1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog.png | alt1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog | image2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog.png | alt2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog }} == Console == Shows information from the operation of the app, normally just the results of compiling a program or the rendering results. Compilation may emit warnings, errors and assertion faults, as well as messages emitted by [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#Echo_As_A_Module|Echo()]] in the program. During a full (F6) rendering a progress-bar is displayed in the bottom frame border of the console, with a Cancel button that can interrupt it. [[File:OpenSCAD Cancel Button - cancels the render.jpg|left|A render can be cancel using the X button at the end of the progress bar.]] {{clear}} == Preview== The Preview rendering is updated automatically after any change to the script or the [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Customizer|Customizer]] data. There are a number of options on the View menu that enable objects in the Preview, like ''Show Axes'' to display coloured pointers for the 3 Coordinate Axes. The View menu shows the keyboard shortcuts for each option. The viewing area is navigated primarily using the mouse: {|class="wikitable" !Action !Icons !Description |- |rowspan=2|rotating the view |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] | Dragging with the left mouse button rotates the view along the axes of the viewing area. It preserves the vertical axis' direction. Double-click the left button to set the point of rotation. |- |{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] |Dragging with the left mouse button when the shift key is pressed rotates the view along the vertical axis and the axis pointing towards the user. |- |moving the viewing area |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |Dragging with the right mouse button moves the viewing area. |- |rowspan=5|zooming |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Mouse wheel up.svg|24px]][[File:Mouse wheel down.svg|24px]] |Using the scroll wheel |- |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |Dragging with the middle mouse button |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |rowspan=2|Dragging with the right or middle mouse button and the shift key pressed |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |- |style="text-align: center;"|''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' |The keys ''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' (''{{key press|Ctrl+[}}'' and ''{{key press|Ctrl+]}}'') |- |show/hide rotation center |{{key press|Ctrl|3}} |Turn on or off the graphic showing the center of rotation. (It is always in the center of the viewing area). |- |rotation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|0}} |Rotation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|0}}. |- |translation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|}} + </br> {{key press|Shift|0}} |Translation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|Shift|0}}. |} === Manifold Render Mode === {{requires|Dev Snapshot}} This method gives fast rendering for preview with few, if any, rendering artifacts from convoluted geometry. {{NOTE|This preview rendering engine ignores the convexity parameter}} === OpenCSG Render Mode (F9) === {{requires|pre-Snapshot versions}} This method gives fast rendering for preview, but slows significantly when working with convoluted objects. Selecting the [http://opencsg.org/ OpenCSG] mode using F9 switches to the last generated OpenCSG view, but does not re-run the source code. If Automatic-Reload and Preview is not enabled the Design-''Compile'' (F5) function triggers the evaluation of the source code torefresh the Preview. ==== CGAL Tesselate and Render ==== {{requires|pre-Snapshot versions}} This method of rendering was triggered using menu items with keybindings to F10 and F11 to tessellate and render, respectively, the model. These keybindings are removed in recent versions. CGAL is the Computational Geometry Algorithms Library, an open source tool set that includes tessellation and rendering functions. It is used to first build a polygonal mesh from the model and then render it. Using this tool set can be slower for single images but is a significant advantage when rendering multiple images from a model, for instance when animating It also produces a more accurate rendering of the surfaces in the model than the OpenCSG version can achieve. As with OpenCSG preview, F10 and F11 only enable the full render mode and don't run the program to update the model; for that, use the Design-''Compile and Render'' (F6) menu item should be used. It is possible to combine the benefits of these two display methods using the [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#Render_Operation|render() Operation Module]]. It generates the mesh that is then used as the basis for rendering, even with OpenCSG mode enabled. === View options === ==== ''Show Edges'' (Ctrl+1) ==== When ''Show Edges'' is enabled, both engines render edges as well as faces. In addition the CGAL rendering includes the vertices as well. {{Limitation|This option has no effect when CGAL grid mode is active}} [[File:OpenSCAD edges CGAL vs OpenCSG.png|thumb|CGAL rendering shows all edges.]] OpenCSG rendering does not consider edges created by boolean operations in a model, while the CGAL tessellation process does. ==== ''Show Axes'' (Ctrl+2) ==== When ''Show Axes'' is enabled an orthogonal axes indicator is displayed at the origin. Additionally, a smaller axes indicator is shown in the lower left corner of the viewing area. This three lines in this indicator are titled X, Y, and Z and are coloured red, green, blue respectively. ==== ''Show Crosshairs'' (Ctrl+3) ==== When ''Show Crosshairs'' is enabled, the center of the viewport is indicated by four lines pointing in the room diagonal directions of the global coordinate system. This is useful when aligning the viewing area to a particular point in the model to keep it centered on screen during rotation. === Animation === The menu item Window-''Animate'' enables the processing of an animation sequence, updating the model at each step, and optionally rendering images. An animation panel is added to the window, normally attached to the lower border in the central panel space. The panel has fields for the time value ($t), Frames Per Second (FPS) and Steps and controls for stopping and starting its operation, which starts Paused when the panel is opened. As soon as ''FPS'' and ''Steps'' are set animation begins, which is seen by the ''Time'' increasing. The animation period runs from zero to 1, divided into ''Steps'' moments at which the model will be evaluated and rendered. The ''FPS'' setting determines how many times per second frames should be rendered. Reasonable starting values are FPS=10 and Steps=100. The operation of an animation is controlled by [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#$t|Special Variable $t]]. === View alignment === The View menu items ''Top, Bottom, etc. align the view to look at the origin along their respective axis in the global coordinate system. The default view is ''Diagonal'', which looks at the origin along a vector of relative angles [-45,-45,-45] in degrees. The ''Center'' option centers the global coordinate origin in the view. The geometry of the viewing space can be calculated in two modes, ''Perspective'' and ''Orthogonal'', which are common to all 3D modelling applications. Using the directional view items, ''Top'', etc., in Orthogonal geometry mode has the effect of showing the model in the Top-Side-Front views of an engineering drawing. {{BookCat}} [[ru:Руководство пользователя по OpenSCAD/Пользовательский интерфейс OpenSCAD]] [[it:OpenSCAD/Interfaccia_utente_OpenSCAD]] f5ebtbd7ro2cxclzxobvhxvsk81eiwd 4520882 4520879 2025-07-01T22:17:49Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 /* Manifold Render Mode */ 4520882 wikitext text/x-wiki = Graphic User Interface = The OpenSCAD GUI is a flexible tool for interactively editing a script with instant feedback in the rendered preview, and supporting information from the console, error log and other information panels. [[File:OpenSCAD Main Window.png|frame|Main Window with the OpenSCAD-Logo]] [[File:Snapshop-window-list.png|frameless|right|alt=The Windows Menu allows one to select which of the information panels to show|Windows Menu - list of information windows]] By default the application window shows three panels: * Editing Panel * Console * Preview == Text Editor == The powerful Scintilla based editor offers all of the features that a modern programmers tool should offer: * multiple files open on tabs * search & replace * syntax highlighting * keyword and argument list completion * interactive value change * indenting * apply and remove comments === Interactive Modification of An Number === It is possible to change a numeric value in the source code and observe the result in real time. Place the cursor after a numeric digit and, while holding the {{key press|Alt}} key, use the up arrow to increment the digit and down arrow to decrements. The Preview is re-rendered after every change. {{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} or + {{key press|Left Arrow}} move the cursor to the next less significant and next more significant digit respectively. In addition, when the cursor is at the least significant digit the {{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} will add a decimal point and the first digit of the fractional component, and more significant digits thereafter. {{OSSpecific | OS = MacOS | text = use {{key press|Option}}+{{key press|Shift}} instead of + {{key press|Alt}} }} {| class="wikitable" !Key Combo !Description |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Up Arrow}} |Increment the numeric value to the left of the cursor. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Down Arrow}} |Decrement the numeric value to the left of the cursor. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Left Arrow}} |Move the cursor left to the next most significant digit. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} |Move the cursor right to the next less significant digit, and possibly a fraction. |} {{multiple image | align = center | width = 220 | footer = OpenSCAD Editor with Find / Replace functionality. | image1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog.png | alt1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog | image2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog.png | alt2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog }} == Console == Shows information from the operation of the app, normally just the results of compiling a program or the rendering results. Compilation may emit warnings, errors and assertion faults, as well as messages emitted by [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#Echo_As_A_Module|Echo()]] in the program. During a full (F6) rendering a progress-bar is displayed in the bottom frame border of the console, with a Cancel button that can interrupt it. [[File:OpenSCAD Cancel Button - cancels the render.jpg|left|A render can be cancel using the X button at the end of the progress bar.]] {{clear}} == Preview== The Preview rendering is updated automatically after any change to the script or the [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Customizer|Customizer]] data. There are a number of options on the View menu that enable objects in the Preview, like ''Show Axes'' to display coloured pointers for the 3 Coordinate Axes. The View menu shows the keyboard shortcuts for each option. The viewing area is navigated primarily using the mouse: {|class="wikitable" !Action !Icons !Description |- |rowspan=2|rotating the view |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] | Dragging with the left mouse button rotates the view along the axes of the viewing area. It preserves the vertical axis' direction. Double-click the left button to set the point of rotation. |- |{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] |Dragging with the left mouse button when the shift key is pressed rotates the view along the vertical axis and the axis pointing towards the user. |- |moving the viewing area |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |Dragging with the right mouse button moves the viewing area. |- |rowspan=5|zooming |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Mouse wheel up.svg|24px]][[File:Mouse wheel down.svg|24px]] |Using the scroll wheel |- |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |Dragging with the middle mouse button |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |rowspan=2|Dragging with the right or middle mouse button and the shift key pressed |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |- |style="text-align: center;"|''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' |The keys ''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' (''{{key press|Ctrl+[}}'' and ''{{key press|Ctrl+]}}'') |- |show/hide rotation center |{{key press|Ctrl|3}} |Turn on or off the graphic showing the center of rotation. (It is always in the center of the viewing area). |- |rotation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|0}} |Rotation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|0}}. |- |translation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|}} + </br> {{key press|Shift|0}} |Translation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|Shift|0}}. |} === Manifold Render Mode === {{requires|Dev Snapshot}} This method gives fast rendering with few, if any, rendering artifacts from convoluted geometry. {{NOTE|must be enabled in Preferences>Advanced>Backend dropdown }} {{NOTE|This rendering engine ignores the convexity parameter}} === OpenCSG Render Mode (F9) === {{requires|pre-Snapshot versions}} This method gives fast rendering for preview, but slows significantly when working with convoluted objects. Selecting the [http://opencsg.org/ OpenCSG] mode using F9 switches to the last generated OpenCSG view, but does not re-run the source code. If Automatic-Reload and Preview is not enabled the Design-''Compile'' (F5) function triggers the evaluation of the source code torefresh the Preview. ==== CGAL Tesselate and Render ==== {{requires|pre-Snapshot versions}} This method of rendering was triggered using menu items with keybindings to F10 and F11 to tessellate and render, respectively, the model. These keybindings are removed in recent versions. CGAL is the Computational Geometry Algorithms Library, an open source tool set that includes tessellation and rendering functions. It is used to first build a polygonal mesh from the model and then render it. Using this tool set can be slower for single images but is a significant advantage when rendering multiple images from a model, for instance when animating It also produces a more accurate rendering of the surfaces in the model than the OpenCSG version can achieve. As with OpenCSG preview, F10 and F11 only enable the full render mode and don't run the program to update the model; for that, use the Design-''Compile and Render'' (F6) menu item should be used. It is possible to combine the benefits of these two display methods using the [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#Render_Operation|render() Operation Module]]. It generates the mesh that is then used as the basis for rendering, even with OpenCSG mode enabled. === View options === ==== ''Show Edges'' (Ctrl+1) ==== When ''Show Edges'' is enabled, both engines render edges as well as faces. In addition the CGAL rendering includes the vertices as well. {{Limitation|This option has no effect when CGAL grid mode is active}} [[File:OpenSCAD edges CGAL vs OpenCSG.png|thumb|CGAL rendering shows all edges.]] OpenCSG rendering does not consider edges created by boolean operations in a model, while the CGAL tessellation process does. ==== ''Show Axes'' (Ctrl+2) ==== When ''Show Axes'' is enabled an orthogonal axes indicator is displayed at the origin. Additionally, a smaller axes indicator is shown in the lower left corner of the viewing area. This three lines in this indicator are titled X, Y, and Z and are coloured red, green, blue respectively. ==== ''Show Crosshairs'' (Ctrl+3) ==== When ''Show Crosshairs'' is enabled, the center of the viewport is indicated by four lines pointing in the room diagonal directions of the global coordinate system. This is useful when aligning the viewing area to a particular point in the model to keep it centered on screen during rotation. === Animation === The menu item Window-''Animate'' enables the processing of an animation sequence, updating the model at each step, and optionally rendering images. An animation panel is added to the window, normally attached to the lower border in the central panel space. The panel has fields for the time value ($t), Frames Per Second (FPS) and Steps and controls for stopping and starting its operation, which starts Paused when the panel is opened. As soon as ''FPS'' and ''Steps'' are set animation begins, which is seen by the ''Time'' increasing. The animation period runs from zero to 1, divided into ''Steps'' moments at which the model will be evaluated and rendered. The ''FPS'' setting determines how many times per second frames should be rendered. Reasonable starting values are FPS=10 and Steps=100. The operation of an animation is controlled by [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#$t|Special Variable $t]]. === View alignment === The View menu items ''Top, Bottom, etc. align the view to look at the origin along their respective axis in the global coordinate system. The default view is ''Diagonal'', which looks at the origin along a vector of relative angles [-45,-45,-45] in degrees. The ''Center'' option centers the global coordinate origin in the view. The geometry of the viewing space can be calculated in two modes, ''Perspective'' and ''Orthogonal'', which are common to all 3D modelling applications. Using the directional view items, ''Top'', etc., in Orthogonal geometry mode has the effect of showing the model in the Top-Side-Front views of an engineering drawing. {{BookCat}} [[ru:Руководство пользователя по OpenSCAD/Пользовательский интерфейс OpenSCAD]] [[it:OpenSCAD/Interfaccia_utente_OpenSCAD]] n0cfb3b4cygwberbs13dg9rkteryma6 4520883 4520882 2025-07-01T22:18:13Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 /* CGAL Tesselate and Render */ 4520883 wikitext text/x-wiki = Graphic User Interface = The OpenSCAD GUI is a flexible tool for interactively editing a script with instant feedback in the rendered preview, and supporting information from the console, error log and other information panels. [[File:OpenSCAD Main Window.png|frame|Main Window with the OpenSCAD-Logo]] [[File:Snapshop-window-list.png|frameless|right|alt=The Windows Menu allows one to select which of the information panels to show|Windows Menu - list of information windows]] By default the application window shows three panels: * Editing Panel * Console * Preview == Text Editor == The powerful Scintilla based editor offers all of the features that a modern programmers tool should offer: * multiple files open on tabs * search & replace * syntax highlighting * keyword and argument list completion * interactive value change * indenting * apply and remove comments === Interactive Modification of An Number === It is possible to change a numeric value in the source code and observe the result in real time. Place the cursor after a numeric digit and, while holding the {{key press|Alt}} key, use the up arrow to increment the digit and down arrow to decrements. The Preview is re-rendered after every change. {{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} or + {{key press|Left Arrow}} move the cursor to the next less significant and next more significant digit respectively. In addition, when the cursor is at the least significant digit the {{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} will add a decimal point and the first digit of the fractional component, and more significant digits thereafter. {{OSSpecific | OS = MacOS | text = use {{key press|Option}}+{{key press|Shift}} instead of + {{key press|Alt}} }} {| class="wikitable" !Key Combo !Description |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Up Arrow}} |Increment the numeric value to the left of the cursor. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Down Arrow}} |Decrement the numeric value to the left of the cursor. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Left Arrow}} |Move the cursor left to the next most significant digit. |- |{{key press|Alt}} + {{key press|Right Arrow}} |Move the cursor right to the next less significant digit, and possibly a fraction. |} {{multiple image | align = center | width = 220 | footer = OpenSCAD Editor with Find / Replace functionality. | image1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog.png | alt1 = OpenSCAD Find Dialog | image2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog.png | alt2 = OpenSCAD Replace Dialog }} == Console == Shows information from the operation of the app, normally just the results of compiling a program or the rendering results. Compilation may emit warnings, errors and assertion faults, as well as messages emitted by [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#Echo_As_A_Module|Echo()]] in the program. During a full (F6) rendering a progress-bar is displayed in the bottom frame border of the console, with a Cancel button that can interrupt it. [[File:OpenSCAD Cancel Button - cancels the render.jpg|left|A render can be cancel using the X button at the end of the progress bar.]] {{clear}} == Preview== The Preview rendering is updated automatically after any change to the script or the [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Customizer|Customizer]] data. There are a number of options on the View menu that enable objects in the Preview, like ''Show Axes'' to display coloured pointers for the 3 Coordinate Axes. The View menu shows the keyboard shortcuts for each option. The viewing area is navigated primarily using the mouse: {|class="wikitable" !Action !Icons !Description |- |rowspan=2|rotating the view |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] | Dragging with the left mouse button rotates the view along the axes of the viewing area. It preserves the vertical axis' direction. Double-click the left button to set the point of rotation. |- |{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select left.png|32px]] |Dragging with the left mouse button when the shift key is pressed rotates the view along the vertical axis and the axis pointing towards the user. |- |moving the viewing area |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |Dragging with the right mouse button moves the viewing area. |- |rowspan=5|zooming |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Mouse wheel up.svg|24px]][[File:Mouse wheel down.svg|24px]] |Using the scroll wheel |- |style="text-align: center;"|[[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |Dragging with the middle mouse button |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select right.png|32px]] |rowspan=2|Dragging with the right or middle mouse button and the shift key pressed |- |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Shift}} + [[File:Farm-Fresh mouse select scroll.png|32px]] |- |style="text-align: center;"|''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' |The keys ''{{key press|+}}'' and ''{{key press|-}}'' (''{{key press|Ctrl+[}}'' and ''{{key press|Ctrl+]}}'') |- |show/hide rotation center |{{key press|Ctrl|3}} |Turn on or off the graphic showing the center of rotation. (It is always in the center of the viewing area). |- |rotation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|0}} |Rotation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|0}}. |- |translation reset |style="text-align: center;"|{{key press|Ctrl|}} + </br> {{key press|Shift|0}} |Translation can be reset using the shortcut {{key press|Ctrl|Shift|0}}. |} === Manifold Render Mode === {{requires|Dev Snapshot}} This method gives fast rendering with few, if any, rendering artifacts from convoluted geometry. {{NOTE|must be enabled in Preferences>Advanced>Backend dropdown }} {{NOTE|This rendering engine ignores the convexity parameter}} === OpenCSG Render Mode (F9) === {{requires|pre-Snapshot versions}} This method gives fast rendering for preview, but slows significantly when working with convoluted objects. Selecting the [http://opencsg.org/ OpenCSG] mode using F9 switches to the last generated OpenCSG view, but does not re-run the source code. If Automatic-Reload and Preview is not enabled the Design-''Compile'' (F5) function triggers the evaluation of the source code torefresh the Preview. === CGAL Tesselate and Render === {{requires|pre-Snapshot versions}} This method of rendering was triggered using menu items with keybindings to F10 and F11 to tessellate and render, respectively, the model. These keybindings are removed in recent versions. CGAL is the Computational Geometry Algorithms Library, an open source tool set that includes tessellation and rendering functions. It is used to first build a polygonal mesh from the model and then render it. Using this tool set can be slower for single images but is a significant advantage when rendering multiple images from a model, for instance when animating It also produces a more accurate rendering of the surfaces in the model than the OpenCSG version can achieve. As with OpenCSG preview, F10 and F11 only enable the full render mode and don't run the program to update the model; for that, use the Design-''Compile and Render'' (F6) menu item should be used. It is possible to combine the benefits of these two display methods using the [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#Render_Operation|render() Operation Module]]. It generates the mesh that is then used as the basis for rendering, even with OpenCSG mode enabled. === View options === ==== ''Show Edges'' (Ctrl+1) ==== When ''Show Edges'' is enabled, both engines render edges as well as faces. In addition the CGAL rendering includes the vertices as well. {{Limitation|This option has no effect when CGAL grid mode is active}} [[File:OpenSCAD edges CGAL vs OpenCSG.png|thumb|CGAL rendering shows all edges.]] OpenCSG rendering does not consider edges created by boolean operations in a model, while the CGAL tessellation process does. ==== ''Show Axes'' (Ctrl+2) ==== When ''Show Axes'' is enabled an orthogonal axes indicator is displayed at the origin. Additionally, a smaller axes indicator is shown in the lower left corner of the viewing area. This three lines in this indicator are titled X, Y, and Z and are coloured red, green, blue respectively. ==== ''Show Crosshairs'' (Ctrl+3) ==== When ''Show Crosshairs'' is enabled, the center of the viewport is indicated by four lines pointing in the room diagonal directions of the global coordinate system. This is useful when aligning the viewing area to a particular point in the model to keep it centered on screen during rotation. === Animation === The menu item Window-''Animate'' enables the processing of an animation sequence, updating the model at each step, and optionally rendering images. An animation panel is added to the window, normally attached to the lower border in the central panel space. The panel has fields for the time value ($t), Frames Per Second (FPS) and Steps and controls for stopping and starting its operation, which starts Paused when the panel is opened. As soon as ''FPS'' and ''Steps'' are set animation begins, which is seen by the ''Time'' increasing. The animation period runs from zero to 1, divided into ''Steps'' moments at which the model will be evaluated and rendered. The ''FPS'' setting determines how many times per second frames should be rendered. Reasonable starting values are FPS=10 and Steps=100. The operation of an animation is controlled by [[OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Other_Language_Features#$t|Special Variable $t]]. === View alignment === The View menu items ''Top, Bottom, etc. align the view to look at the origin along their respective axis in the global coordinate system. The default view is ''Diagonal'', which looks at the origin along a vector of relative angles [-45,-45,-45] in degrees. The ''Center'' option centers the global coordinate origin in the view. The geometry of the viewing space can be calculated in two modes, ''Perspective'' and ''Orthogonal'', which are common to all 3D modelling applications. Using the directional view items, ''Top'', etc., in Orthogonal geometry mode has the effect of showing the model in the Top-Side-Front views of an engineering drawing. {{BookCat}} [[ru:Руководство пользователя по OpenSCAD/Пользовательский интерфейс OpenSCAD]] [[it:OpenSCAD/Interfaccia_utente_OpenSCAD]] 386jrh5vrf8691ayrweszayirfvmgph Chemical Sciences: A Manual for CSIR-UGC National Eligibility Test for Lectureship and JRF/Vibrational circular dichroism 0 234466 4520849 3932392 2025-07-01T19:48:41Z Д.Ильин 688474 /* VCD Instrumentation */ 4520849 wikitext text/x-wiki {{dewikify}} '''Vibrational circular dichroism''' (VCD) is a [[spectroscopy|spectroscopic]] technique which detects differences in attenuation of left and right [[circular polarization|circularly polarized light]] passing through a sample. It is basically [[circular dichroism]] spectroscopy in the [[infrared]] and near infrared ranges<ref>http://planetphysics.org/?op=getobj;from=objects;id=410 Principles of IR and NIR Spectroscopy</ref>. Because VCD is sensitive to the mutual orientation of distinct groups in a molecule, it provides three-dimensional structural information. Thus, it is a powerful technique as VCD spectra of enantiomers can be simulated using ''ab initio'' calculations, thereby allowing the identification of absolute configurations of small molecules in solution from VCD spectra. Among such quantum computations of VCD spectra resulting from the chiral properties of small organic molecules are those based on [[density functional theory]] (DFT) and [[gauge-invariant]] [[atomic orbitals]] (GIAO). As a simple example of the experimental results that were obtained by VCD are the spectral data obtained within the carbon-hydrogen (C-H) stretching region of 21 [[amino acid]]s in [[heavy water]] solutions. Measurements of vibrational optical activity (VOA) have thus numerous applications, not only for small molecules, but also for large and complex biopolymers such as muscle proteins ([[myosin]], for example) and [[DNA]]. ==Vibrational modes== <gallery> File:Symmetrical stretching.gif File:Asymmetrical stretching.gif File:Scissoring.gif File:Twisting.gif File:Wagging.gif File:Agitation moléculaire en milieu aqueux.PNG </gallery> ==Theory of VCD== While the fundamental quantity associated with the infrared absorption is the dipole strength, the differential absorption is proportional also to the rotational strength, a quantity which depends on both the electric and magnetic dipole transition moments. Sensitivity of the handedness of a molecule toward circularly polarized light results from the form of the rotational strength. ==VCD of peptides and proteins== Extensive VCD studies have been reported for both polypeptides and several proteins in solution<ref>*"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Polypeptides XII. Re-evaluation of the Fourier Transform Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Poly-gamma-Benzyl-L-Glutamate," P. Malon, R. Kobrinskaya, T. A. Keiderling, Biopolymers 27, 733-746 (1988).</ref><ref>*"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Biopolymers," T. A. Keiderling, S. C. Yasui, U. Narayanan, A. Annamalai, P. Malon, R. Kobrinskaya, L. Yang, in ''Spectroscopy of Biological Molecules New Advances'' ed. E. D. Schmid, F. W. Schneider, F. Siebert, p. 73-76 (1988). </ref><ref>*"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Polypeptides and Proteins," S. C. Yasui, T. A. Keiderling, ''Mikrochimica Acta'', II, 325-327, (1988).</ref>; several recent reviews were also compiled<ref> *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Proteins Polysaccharides and Nucleic Acids" T. A. Keiderling, Chapter 8 in ''Physical Chemistry of Food Processes, Vol. 2 Advanced Techniques, Structures and Applications.'', eds. I.C. Baianu, H. Pessen, T. Kumosinski, Van Norstrand--Reinhold, New York (1993), pp 307-337.</ref><ref> "Spectroscopic characterization of Unfolded peptides and proteins studied with infrared absorption and vibrational circular dichroism spectra" T. A. Keiderling and Qi Xu, Advances in Protein Chemistry Volume 62, [Unfolded Proteins, Dedicated to John Edsall, Ed.: George Rose, Academic Press:New York] (2002), pp. 111-161.</ref><ref>*"Protein and Peptide Secondary Structure and Conformational Determination with Vibrational Circular Dichroism " Timothy A. Keiderling, ''Current Opinions in Chemical Biology'' (Ed. Julie Leary and Mark Arnold) 6, 682-688 (2002).</ref><ref>*Review: Conformational Studies of Peptides with Infrared Techniques. Timothy A. Keiderling and R. A. G. D. Silva, in Synthesis of Peptides and Peptidomimetics, Ed. M. Goodman and G. Herrman, Houben-Weyl, Vol 22Eb, Georg Thiem Verlag, New York (2002) pp. 715-738, (written and accepted in 2000).</ref>. An extensive but not comprehensive VCD publications list is also provided in the "References" section. The published reports over the last 22 years have established VCD as a powerful technique with improved results over those previously obtained by visible/UV circular dichroism (CD) or [[optical rotatory dispersion]] (ORD) for proteins and nucleic acids. ==Amino acid and polypeptide structures== <gallery> File:GeneticCode21.svg File:Monosodium-glutamate.png File:H-Gly-Ala-OH.jpg File:Diaminopimelic acid.gif File:Zuiterrionball.svg File:Peptidformationball.svg File:Aa structure function.svg File:Protein Dynamics Cytochrome C 2NEW smaller.gif File:Protein primary structure.svg File:Lysozyme crystal1.JPG File:1ezg Tenebrio molitor.png File:Concanavalin A.png File:Porin.qutemol.ao.png File:Sucrose porin 1a0s.png File:Sucrose specific porin 1A0S.png File:StrictosidineSynthase.png File:Calmodulin 1CLL.png File:Haemoglobin-3D-ribbons.png File:Hemoglobin t-r state ani.gif File:Clostridium perfringens Alpha Toxin Rotate.rsh.gif File:Bcl-2 Family.jpg File:Bcl-2 3D.jpg File:PBB Protein THPO image.jpg File:Bence Jones Protein MLE1.jpg File:Duck Delta 1 Crystallin.jpg </gallery> ==VCD of nucleic acids== VCD spectra of nucleotides, synthetic polynucleotides and several nucleic acids, including DNA, have been reported and assigned in terms of the type and number of helices present in A- , B-, and Z- DNA. ==VCD Instrumentation== For biopolymers such as proteins and nucleic acids, the difference in absorbance between the levo- and dextro- configurations is five orders of magnitude smaller than the corresonding (unpolarized) absorbance. Therefore, VCD of biopolymers requires the use of very sensitive, specially built instrumentation as well as time-averaging over relatively long intervals of time even with such sensitive VCD spectrometers. Most CD instruments produce left- and right- circularly polarized light which is then either sine-wave or square-wave modulated, with subsequent phase-sensitive detection and lock-in amplification of the detected signal. In the case of FT-VCD, a photo-elastic modulator (PEM) is employed in conjunction with an FT-IR interferometer set-up. An example is that of a Bomem model MB-100 FT-IR interferometer equipped with additional polarizing optics/ accessories needed for recording VCD spectra. A parallel beam emerges through a side port of the interferometer which passes first through a wire grid linear polarizer and then through an octagonal-shaped ZnSe crystal PEM which modulates the polarized beam at a fixed, lower frequency such as 37.5 kHz. A mechanically stressed crystal such as ZnSe exhibits [[birefringence]] when stressed by an adjacent piezoelectric transducer. The linear polarizer is positioned close to, and at 45 degrees, with respect to the ZnSe crystal axis. The polarized radiation focused onto the detector is doubly modulated, both by the PEM and by the interferometer setup. A very low noise detector, such as MCT (HgCdTe), is also selected for the VCD signal phase-sensitive detection. Quasi-complete commercial FT-VCD instruments are also available from a few manufacturers but these are quite expensive and also have to be still considered as being at the prototype stage. To prevent detector saturation an appropriate, long wave pass filter is placed before the very low noise MCT detector, which allows only radiation below 1750&nbsp;cm<sup>−1</sup> to reach the MCT detector; the latter however measures radiation only down to 750&nbsp;cm<sup>−1</sup>. FT-VCD spectra accumulation of the selected sample solution is then carried out, digitized and stored by an in-line computer. Published reviews that compare various VCD methods are also available.<ref>"Polarization Modulation Fourier Transform Infrared Spectroscopy with Digital SignalProcessing: Comparison of Vibrational Circular Dichroism Methods." Jovencio Hilario, DavidDrapcho, Raul Curbelo, Timothy A. Keiderling, Applied Spectroscopy 55, 1435-1447(2001)--</ref><ref> "Vibrational circular dichroism of biopolymers. Summary of methods and applications.", Timothy A. Keiderling, Jan Kubelka, Jovencio Hilario, in ''Vibrational spectroscopy of polymers and biological systems'', Ed. Mark Braiman, Vasilis Gregoriou, Taylor&Francis, Atlanta (CRC Press, Boca Raton, FL) (2006) pp. 253-324 (originally written in 2000, updated in 2003) </ref> <gallery> File:Michelson-morley.png File:Interferometer.JPG File:Michelson interferometer schematic.png File:IR spectroscopy apparatus.svg File:IR spectrometer.jpg File:Michelson Interferometer.jpg File:Ir hcl rot-vib mrtz.svg File:IR summary version 2.svg File:Michelsoninterferometer.jpg File:Michelson couleur.jpg File:Bismuthine-2D.svg File:Infrared spectrometer.jpg </gallery> ==Magnetic VCD== VCD spectra have also been reported in the presence of an applied external magnetic field<ref>"Observation of Magnetic Vibrational Circular Dichroism," T. A. Keiderling, Journal of Chemical Physics, 75, 3639-41 (1981).</ref>. This method can enhance the VCD spectral resolution for small molecules<ref> "Vibrational Spectral Assignment and Enhanced Resolution Using Magnetic Vibrational Circular Dichroism," T. R. Devine and T. A. Keiderling, ''Spectrochimica Acta'', 43A, 627-629 (1987). </ref><ref>"Magnetic Vibrational Circular Dichroism with an FTIR" P. V. Croatto, R. K. Yoo, T. A. Keiderling, SPIE Proceedings 1145 (7th International Conference on FTS, ed. D. G. Cameron) 152-153 (1989). </ref><ref> "Direct Measurement of the Rotational g-Value in the Ground State of Acetylene by Magnetic Vibrational Circular Dichroism." C. N. Tam and T. A. Keiderling, Chemical Physics Letters, 243, 55-58 (1995).</ref><ref>. "Ab initio calculation of the vibrational magnetic dipole moment" P. Bour, C. N. Tam, T. A. Keiderling, Journal of Physical Chemistry 99, 17810-17813 (1995)</ref><ref> "Rotationally Resolved Magnetic Vibrational Circular Dichroism. Experimental Spectra and Theoretical Simulation for Diamagnetic Molecules." P. Bour, C. N. Tam, B. Wang, T. A. Keiderling, ''Molecular Physics'' 87, 299-318, (1996).</ref>. ==Raman optical activity (ROA)== [[Raman optical activity|ROA]] is a technique complementary to VCD especially useful in the 50—1600&nbsp;cm<sup>−1</sup> spectral region; it is considered as the technique of choice for determining optical activity for photon energies less than 600&nbsp;cm<sup>−1</sup>. ==Notes== {{reflist|2}} ==References== ===Peptides and proteins=== * Huang R, Wu L, McElheny D, Bour P, Roy A, Keiderling TA. Cross-Strand Coupling and Site-Specific Unfolding Thermodynamics of a Trpzip beta-Hairpin Peptide Using (13)C Isotopic Labeling and IR Spectroscopy. ''The journal of physical chemistry. B''. 2009 Apr;113(16):5661-74. *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Poly alpha-Benzyl-L-Glutamate," R. D. Singh, and T. A. Keiderling, Biopolymers, 20, 237-40 (1981). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Polypeptides II. Solution Amide II and Deuteration Results," A. C. Sen and T. A. Keiderling, Biopolymers, 23, 1519-32 (1984). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Polypeptides III. Film Studies of Several alpha-Helical and ß-Sheet Polypeptides," A. C. Sen and T. A. Keiderling, Biopolymers, 23, 1533-46 (1984). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Polypeptides IV. Film Studies of L-Alanine Homo Oligopeptides," U. Narayanan, T. A. Keiderling, G. M. Bonora, and C. Toniolo, ''Biopolymers'' 24, 1257-63 (1985). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Polypeptides, T. A. Keiderling, S. C. Yasui, A. C. Sen, C. Toniolo, G. M. Bonora, in Peptides Structure and Function, Proceedings of the 9th American Peptide Symposium," ed. C. M. Deber, K. Kopple, V. Hruby; Pie rce Chemical: Rockford, IL; 167-172 (1985). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Polypeptides V. A Study of 310 Helical-Octapeptides" S. C. Yasui, T. A. Keiderling, G. M. Bonora, C. Toniolo, Biopolymers 25, 79-89 (1986). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Polypeptides VI. Polytyrosine alpha-helical and Random Coil Results," S. C. Yasui and T. A. Keiderling, Biopolymers 25, 5-15 (1986). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Polypeptides VII. Film and Solution Studies of alpha-forming Homo-Oligopeptides," U. Narayanan, T. A. Keiderling, G. M. Bonora, C. Toniolo, ''Journal of the American Chemical Society'', 108, 2431-2437 (1986). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Polypeptides VIII. Poly Lysine Conformations as a Function of pH in Aqueous Solution," S. C. Yasui, T. A. Keiderling, Journal of the American Chemical Society, 108, 5576-5581 (1986). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Polypeptides IX. A Study of Chain Length Dependence for 310-Helix Formation in Solution." S. C. Yasui, T. A. Keiderling, F. Formaggio, G. M. Bonora, C. Toniolo, Journal of the American Chemical Society 108, 4988-499 3 (1986). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Biopolymers." T. A. Keiderling, ''Nature'', 322, 851-852 (1986). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Polypeptides X. A Study of alpha-Helical Oligopeptides in Solution." S. C. Yasui, T. A. Keiderling, R. Katachai, Biopolymers 26, 1407-1412 (1987). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Polypeptides XI. Conformation of Poly(L-Lysine(Z)-L-Lysine(Z)-L-1-Pyrenylalanine) and Poly(L-Lysine(Z)-L-Lysine(Z)-L-1-Napthylala-nine) in Solution" S. C. Yasui, T. A. Keiderling, and M. Sisido, ''Macromolecules'' 20, 2 403-2406 (1987). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Biopolymers" T. A. Keiderling, S. C. Yasui, A. C. Sen, U. Narayanan, A. Annamalai, P. Malon, R. Kobrinskaya, L. Yang, in "F.E.C.S. Second International Conference on Circular Dichroism, Conference Proceedings," ed. M. Kajtar, L. Eötvös Univ., Budapest, 1987, p.&nbsp;155-161. *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Poly-L-Proline and Other Helical Poly-peptides," R. Kobrinskaya, S. C. Yasui, T. A. Keiderling, in "Peptides: Chemistry and Biology, Proceedings of the 10th American Peptide Symposium," ed. G. R. Marshall, ESCOM, L eiden, 1988, p.&nbsp;65-67. *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Polypeptides with Aromatic Side Chains," S. C. Yasui, T. A. Keiderling, in "Peptides: Chemistry and Biology, Proceedings of the 10th American Peptide Symposium," ed. G. R. Marshall, ESCOM, Leiden, 1988, p.&nbsp;90-92. *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Polypeptides XII. Re-evaluation of the Fourier Transform Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Poly-gamma-Benzyl-L-Glutamate," P. Malon, R. Kobrinskaya, T. A. Keiderling, Biopolymers 27, 733-746 (1988). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Biopolymers," T. A. Keiderling, S. C. Yasui, U. Narayanan, A. Annamalai, P. Malon, R. Kobrinskaya, L. Yang, in ''Spectroscopy of Biological Molecules New Advances'' ed. E. D. Schmid, F. W. Schneider, F. Siebert, p.&nbsp;73-76 (1988). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Polypeptides and Proteins," S. C. Yasui, T. A. Keiderling, ''Mikrochimica Acta'', II, 325-327, (1988). *"(1R,7R)-7-Methyl-6,9,-Diazatricyclo[6,3,0,01,6]Tridecanne-5,10-Dione, A Tricyclic Spirodilactam Containing Non-planar Amide Groups: Synthesis, NMR, Crystal Structure, Absolute Configuration, Electronic and Vibrational Circular Dichroism" P. Malon, C . L. Barness, M. Budesinsky, R. K. Dukor, D. van der Helm, T. A. Keiderling, Z. Koblicova, F. Pavlikova, M. Tichy, K. Blaha, Collections of Czechoslovak Chemical Communications 53, 2447-2472 (1988). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Poly Glutamic Acid" R. K. Dukor, T. A. Keiderling, in ''Peptides 1988'' (ed. G. Jung, E. Bayer) Walter de Gruyter, Berlin (1989) pp 519–521. *"Biopolymer Conformational Studies with Vibrational Circular Dichroism" T. A. Keiderling, S. C. Yasui, P. Pancoska, R. K. Dukor, L. Yang, SPIE Proceeding 1057, ("Biomolecular Spectroscopy," ed. H. H. Mantsch, R. R. Birge) 7-14 (1989). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism. Comparison of Techniques and Practical Considerations" T. A. Keiderling, in "Practical Fourier Transform Infrared Spectroscopy. Industrial and Laboratory Chemical Analysis," ed. J. R. Ferraro, K. Krishnan (Academic Press, San Diego, 1990) p.&nbsp;203-284. *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism Study of Unblocked Proline Oligomers," R. K. Dukor, T. A. Keiderling, V. Gut, ''International Journal of Peptide and Protein Research'', 38, 198-203 (1991). *"Reassessment of the Random Coil Conformation. Vibrational CD Study of Proline Oligopeptides and Related Polypeptides" R. K. Dukor and T. A. Keiderling, Biopolymers 31 1747-1761 (1991). *"Vibrational CD of the Amide II band in Some Model Polypeptides and Proteins" V. P. Gupta, T. A. Keiderling, Biopolymers 32 239-248 (1992). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Proteins Polysaccharides and Nucleic Acids" T. A. Keiderling, Chapter 8 in ''Physical Chemistry of Food Processes, Vol. 2 Advanced Techniques, Structures and Applications.'', eds. I.C. Baianu, H. Pessen, T. Kumosinski, Van Norstrand—Reinhold, New York (1993), pp 307–337. *"Structural Studies of Biological Macromolecules using Vibrational Circular Dichroism" T. A. Keiderling, P. Pancoska, Chapter 6 in Advances in Spectroscopy Vol. 21, ''Biomolecular Spectroscopy Part B'' eds. R. E. Hester, R. J. H. Clarke, John W iley Chichester (1993) pp 267–315. *"Ab Initio Simulations of the Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Coupled Peptides" P. Bour and T. A. Keiderling, Journal of the American Chemical Society 115 9602-9607 (1993). *"Ab initio Simulations of Coupled Peptide Vibrational Circular Dichroism" P. Bour, T. A. Keiderling in "Fifth International Conference on The Spectroscopy of Biological Molecules" Th. Theophanides, J. Anastassopoulou, N. Fotopoulos (Eds), Kluwen Aca demic Publ., Dortrecht, 1993, p.&nbsp;29-30. *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism Spectroscopy of Peptides and Proteins" T. A. Keiderling, in "Circular Dichroism Interpretations and Applications," K. Nakanishi, N. Berova, R. Woody, Eds., VCH Publishers, New York, (1994) pp 497–521. *"Conformational Study of Sequential Lys-Leu Based Polymers and Oligomers using Vibrational and Electronic Circular Dichroism Spectra" V. Baumruk, D. Huo, R. K. Dukor, T. A. Keiderling, D. LeLeivre and A. Brack Biopolymers 34, 1115-1121 (1994). *"Vibrational Optical Activity of Oligopeptides" T. B. Freedman, L. A. Nafie, T. A. Keiderling ''Biopolymers'' (Peptide Science) 37 (ed. C. Toniolo) 265-279 (1995). *"Characterization of ß-bend ribbon spiral forming peptides using electronic and vibrational circular dichroism" G. Yoder, T. A. Keiderling, F. Formaggio, M. Crisma, C. Toniolo Biopolymers 35, 103-111 (1995). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism as a Tool for Determination of Peptide Secondary Structure" P. Bour, T. A. Keiderling, P. Malon, in "Peptides 1994 (Proceedings of the 23rd European Peptide Symposium,1994," (H.L.S. Maia, ed.), Escom, Le iden 1995, p.&nbsp;517-518. *"Helical Screw Sense of homo-oligopeptides of C-alpha-methylated alpha-amino acids as Determined with Vibrational Circular Dichroism." G. Yoder, T. A. Keiderling, M. Crisma, F. Formaggio, C. Toniolo, J. Kamphuis, Tetrahedron Asymmetry 6, 687 -690 (1995). *"Conformational Study of Linear Alternating and Mixed D- and L-Proline Oligomers Using Electronic and Vibrational CD and Fourier Transform IR." W. M&#228stle, R. K. Dukor, G. Yoder, T. A. Keiderling ''Biopolymers'' 36, 623-631 (1995). * Review: "Vibrational Circular Dichroism Applications to Conformational Analysis of Biomolecules" T. A. Keiderling in ''Circular Dichroism and the Conformational Analysis of Biomolecules'' ed. G. D. Fasman, Plenum, New York (1996) p.&nbsp;555-585. *"Mutarotation studies of Poly L-Proline using FT-IR, Electronic and Vibrational Circular Dichroism" R. K. Dukor, T. A. Keiderling, Biospectroscopy 2, 83-100 (1996). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism Applications in Proteins and Peptides" T. A. Keiderling, Proceedings of the NATO ASI in Biomolecular Structure and Dynamics, Loutrakii Greece, May 1996, Ed. G. Vergoten (delayed second volume to 1998). *"Transfer of Molecular Property Tensors in Cartesian Coordinates: A new algorithm for simulation of vibrational spectra" Petr Bour, Jana Sopkova, Lucie Bednarova, Petr Malon, T. A. Keiderling, ''Journal of Computational Chemistry'' 18, 6 46-659 (1997). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism Characterization of Alanine-Rich Peptides." Gorm Yoder and Timothy A. Keiderling, "Spectroscopy of Biological Molecules: Modern Trends," Ed. P. Carmona, R. Navarro, A. Hernanz, Kluwer Acad. Pub., Netherlands (1997) p p.&nbsp;27-28. *"Ionic strength effect on the thermal unfolding of alpha-spectrin peptides." D. Lusitani, N. Menhart, T.A. Keiderling and L. W. M. Fung. ''Biochemistry'' 37(1998)16546-16554. *"In search of the earliest events of hCGb folding: structural studies of the 60-87 peptide fragment" S. Sherman, L. Kirnarsky, O. Prakash, H. M. Rogers, R.A.G.D. Silva, T.A. Keiderling, D. Smith, A.M. Hanly, F. Perini, and R.W. Ruddon, American Pep tide Symposium Proceedings, 1997. *"Cold Denaturation Studies of (LKELPKEL)n Peptide Using Vibrational Circular Dichroism and FT-IR". R. A. G. D. Silva, Vladimir Baumruk, Petr Pancoska, T. A. Keiderling, Eric Lacassie, and Yves Trudelle, American Peptide Symposium Proceedings, 1997. *"Simulations of oligopeptide vibrational CD. Effects of isotopic labeling." Petr Bour, Jan Kubelka,T. A. Keiderling Biopolymers 53, 380-395 (2000). *"Site specific conformational determination in thermal unfolding studies of helical peptides using vibrational circular dichroism with isotopic substitution" R. A. G. D. Silva, Jan Kubelka, Petr Bour, Sean M. Decatur, Timothy A. Keiderling, ''Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences'' (PNAS:USA) 97, 8318-8323 (2000). *"Folding studies on the human chorionic gonadotropin b -subunit using optical spectroscopy of peptide fragments" R. A. G. D. Silva, S. A. Sherman, F. Perini, E. Bedows, T. A. Keiderling, Journal of the American Chemical Society, 122, 8623-8630 (2000). *"Peptide and Protein Conformational Studies with Vibrational Circular Dichroism and Related Spectroscopies", Timothy A. Keiderling, (Revised and Expanded Chapter) In Circular Dichroism: Principles and Applications, 2nd Edition. (Eds. K. Nakanishi, N. Berova and R. A. Woody, John Wiley & Sons, New York (2000) p.&nbsp;621-666. *"Conformation studies with Optical Spectroscopy of peptides taken from hairpin sequences in the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin " R. A. G. D. Silva, S. A. Sherman, E. Bedows, T. A. Keiderling, Peptides for the New Millenium, Proceedings of the 16th American Peptide Symposium, (June, 1999 Minneapolis, MN) Ed.G. B. Fields, J. P. Tam, G. Barany, Kluwer Acad. Pub., Dordrecht,(2000) p.&nbsp;325-326. *"Analysis of Local Conformation within Helical Peptides via Isotope-Edited Vibrational Spectroscopy." S. M. Decatur, T. A. Keiderling, R. A. G. D.Silva, and P. Bour, Peptides for the New Millenium, Proceedings of the 16th American Peptide Symposium, (June, 1999 Minneapolis, MN) Ed. Ed.G. B. Fields, J. P. Tam, G. Barany, Kluwer Acad. Pub., Dordrecht, (2000) p.&nbsp;414-416. *"The anomalous infrared amide I intensity distribution in C-13 isotopically labeled peptide beta-sheets comes from extended, multiple stranded structures. An ''Ab Initio'' study." Jan Kubelka and T. A. Keiderling , ''Journal of the American Chemical Society.'' 123, 6142-6150 (2001). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Peptides and Proteins: Survey of Techniques, Qualitative and Quantitative Analyses, and Applications" Timothy A. Keiderling, Chapter in Infrared and Raman Spectroscopy of Biological Materials, Ed. Bing Yan and H.-U. Gremlich, Marcel Dekker, New York (2001) p.&nbsp;55-100. *"Chirality in peptide vibrations. Ab initio computational studies of length, solvation, hydrogen bond, dipole coupling and isotope effects on vibrational CD. " Jan Kubelka, Petr Bour, R. A. Gangani D. Silva, Sean M. Decatur, Timothy A. Keiderling, ACS Symposium Series 810, ["Chirality: Physical Chemistry," (Ed. Janice Hicks) American Chemical Society, Washington, DC] (2002), pp.&nbsp;50–64. *"Spectroscopic Characterization of Selected b-Sheet Hairpin Models", J. Hilario, J. Kubelka, F. A. Syud, S. H. Gellman, and T. A. Keiderling. Biopolymers (Biospectroscopy) 67: 233-236 (2002) *" Discrimination between peptide 3<sub>10</sub>- and alpha-helices. Theoretical analysis of the impact of alpha-methyl substitution on experimental spectra " Jan Kubelka, R. A. Gangani D. Silva, and T. A. Keiderling, ''Journal of the American Chemical Society'', 124, 5325-5332 (2002). *"''Ab Initio'' Quantum Mechanical Models of Peptide Helices and their Vibrational Spectra" Petr Bour, Jan Kubelka and T. A. Keiderling, Biopolymers 65, 45-59 (2002). *"Discriminating 3<sub>10</sub>- from alpha-helices. Vibrational and electronic CD and IR Absorption study of related Aib-contining oligopeptides" R. A. Gangani D. Silva, Sritana Yasui, Jan Kubelka, Fernando Formaggio, Marco Crisma, Claudio Toniolo, and Timothy A. Keiderling, Biopolymers 65, 229-243 (2002). *"Spectroscopic characterization of Unfolded peptides and proteins studied with infrared absorption and vibrational circular dichroism spectra" T. A. Keiderling and Qi Xu, Advances in Protein Chemistry Volume 62, [Unfolded Proteins, Dedicated to John Edsall, Ed.: George Rose, Academic Press:New York] (2002), pp.&nbsp;111–161. *"Protein and Peptide Secondary Structure and Conformational Determination with Vibrational Circular Dichroism " Timothy A. Keiderling, ''Current Opinions in Chemical Biology'' (Ed. Julie Leary and Mark Arnold) 6, 682-688 (2002). *Review: Conformational Studies of Peptides with Infrared Techniques. Timothy A. Keiderling and R. A. G. D. Silva, in Synthesis of Peptides and Peptidomimetics, Ed. M. Goodman and G. Herrman, Houben-Weyl, Vol 22Eb, Georg Thiem Verlag, New York (2002) pp.&nbsp;715–738, (written and accepted in 2000). *"Spectroscopic Studies of Structural Changes in Two beta-Sheet Forming Peptides Show an Ensemble of Structures That Unfold Non-Cooperatively" Serguei V. Kuznetsov, Jovencio Hilario, T. A. Keiderling, Anjum Ansari, ''Biochemistry'', 42 :4321-4332, (2003). *"Optical spectroscopic investigations of model beta-sheet hairpins in aqueous solution" Jovencio Hilario, Jan Kubelka, T. A. Keiderling, ''Journal of the American Chemical Society'' 125, 7562-7574 (2003). *"Synthesis and conformational study of homopeptides based on (S)-Bin, a C2-symmetric binapthyl-derived Caa-disubstituted glycine with only axial chirality" J.-P. Mazaleyrat, K. Wright, A. Gaucher, M. Wakselman, S. Oancea, F. Formaggio, C. Toniolo, V. Setnicka, J. Kapitan, T. A. Keiderling, Tetrahedron Asymmetry, 14, 1879-1893 (2003). *"Empirical modeling of the peptide amide I band IR intensity in water solution," Petr Bour, Timothy A. Keiderling, ''Journal of Chemical Physics'', 119, 11253-11262 (2003) *"The Nature of Vibrational Coupling in Helical Peptides: An Isotope Labeling Study” by R. Huang, J. Kubelka, W. Barber-Armstrong, R. A. G. D Silva, S. M. Decatur, and T. A. Keiderling, ''Journal of the American Chemical Society'', 126, 2346-2354 (2004). *"The Complete Chirospectroscopic Signature of the Peptide 3<sub>10</sub> Helix in Aqueous Solution" Claudio Toniolo, Fernando Formaggio, Sabrina Tognon, Quirinus B. Broxterman, Bernard Kaptein, Rong Huang, Vladimir Setnicka, Timothy A. Keiderling, Iain H. McColl, Lutz Hecht, Laurence D. Barron, Biopolymers 75, 32-45 (2004). *"Induced axial chirality in the biphenyl core for the Ca-tetrasubstituted a-amino acid residue Bip and subsequent propagation of chirality in (Bip)n/Val oligopeptides" J.-P. Mazaleyrat, K. Wright, A. Gaucher, N. Toulemonde, M. Wakselman, S. Oancea, C. Peggion, F. Formaggio, V. Setnicka, T. A. Keiderling, C. Toniolo, ''Journal of the American Chemical Society'' 126; 12874-12879 (2004). *''Ab initio'' modeling of amide I coupling in anti-parallel b-sheets and the effect of the 13C isotopic labeling on vibrational spectra” Petr Bour, Timothy A. Keiderling, ''Journal of Physical Chemistry B'', 109, 5348-5357 (2005) *Solvent Effects on IR And VCD Spectra of Helical Peptides: Insights from Ab Initio Spectral Simulations with Explicit Water” Jan Kubelka and Timothy A. Keiderling, Journal of Physical Chemistry B 109, 8231-8243 (2005) *IR Study of Cross-Strand Coupling in a beta-Hairpin Peptide Using Isotopic Labels., Vladimir Setnicka, Rong Huang, Catherine L. Thomas, Marcus A. Etienne, Jan Kubelka, Robert P. Hammer, Timothy A. Keiderling ''Journal of the American Chemical Society'' 127, 4992-4993 (2005). *Vibrational spectral simulation for peptides of mixed secondary structure: Method comparisons with the trpzip model hairpin. Petr Bour and Timothy A. Keiderling, ''Journal of Physical Chemistry B'' 109, 232687-23697 (2005). *Isotopically labeled peptides provide site-resolved structural data with infrared spectra. Probing the structural limit of optical spectroscopy, Timothy A. Keiderling, Rong Huang, Jan Kubelka, Petr Bour, Vladimir Setnicka, Robert P. Hammer, Marcus *A. Etienne, R. A. Gangani D. Silva, Sean M. Decatur Collections Symposium Series, 8, 42-49 (2005)—["Biologically Active Peptides" IXth Conference, Prague Czech Republic, April 20-22, 2005. ===Nucleic acids and polynucleotides=== *"Application of Vibrational Circular Dichroism to Synthetic Polypeptides and Polynucleic Acids" T. A. Keiderling, S. C. Yasui, R. K. Dukor, L. Yang, Polymer Preprints 30, 423-424 (1989). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Polyribonucleic Acids. A Comparative Study in Aqueous Solution." A. Annamalai and T. A. Keiderling, ''Journal of the American Chemical Society'', 109, 3125-3132 (1987). *"Conformational phase transitions (A-B and B-Z) of DNA and models using vibrational circular dichroism" L. Wang, L. Yang, T. A. Keiderling in ''Spectroscopy of Biological Molecules.'', eds. R. E. Hester, R. B. Girling, Special Publication 94 Roya l Society of Chemistry, Cambridge (1991) p.&nbsp;137-38. *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of Proteins Polysaccharides and Nucleic Acids" T. A. Keiderling, Chapter 8 in ''Physical Chemistry of Food Processes, Vol. 2 Advanced Techniques, Structures and Applications'' eds. I. C. Baianu, H. Pessen, T. Kumosinski, Van Norstrand—Reinhold, New York (1993) pp.&nbsp;307–337. * "Structural Studies of Biological Macromolecules using Vibrational Circular Dichroism" T. A. Keiderling, P. Pancoska, Chapter 6 in Advances in Spectroscopy Vol. 21, "Biomolecular Spectroscopy Part B" ed. R. E. Hester, R. J. H. Clarke, John W iley Chichester (1993) pp 267–315. *"Detection of Triple Helical Nucleic Acids with Vibrational Circular Dichroism," L. Wang, P. Pancoska, T. A. Keiderling in "Fifth International Conference on The Spectroscopy of Biological Molecules" Th. Theophanides, J. Anastassopoulou, N. Fotopoul os (Eds), Kluwen Academic Publ., Dortrecht, 1993, p.&nbsp;81-82. *"Helical Nature of Poly (dI-dC) � Poly (dI-dC). Vibrational Circular Dichroism Results" L. Wang and T. A. Keiderling Nucleic Acids Research 21 4127-4132 (1993). *"Detection and Characterization of Triple Helical Pyrimidine-Purine-Pyrimidine Nucleic Acids with Vibrational Circular Dichroism" L. Wang, P. Pancoska, T. A. Keiderling, Biochemistry 33 8428-8435 (1994). *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism of A-, B- and Z- form Nucleic Acids in the PO2- Stretching Region" L. Wang, L. Yang, T. A. Keiderling, Biophysical Journal 67, 2460-2467 (1994). *"Studies of multiple stranded RNA and DNA with FTIR, vibrational and electronic circular dichroism," Zhihua Huang, Lijiang Wang and Timothy A. Keiderling, in Spectrosopy of Biological Molecules, Ed. J. C. Merlin, Kluwer Acad. Pub., Dordrecht, 1995, pp . 321-322. *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism Applications to Conformational Analysis of Biomolecules" T. A. Keiderling in "Circular Dichroism and the Conformational Analysis of Biomolecules" ed G. D. Fasman, Plenum, New York (1996) pp.&nbsp;555–598. *"Vibrational Circular Dichroism Techniques and Application to Nucleic Acids" T. A. Keiderling, In "Biomolecular Structure and Dynamics", NATO ASI series, Series E: Applied Sciences- Vol.342, Eds: G. Vergoten and T. Theophanides, Kluwer Academ ic Publishers, Dordrecht, The Netherlands,pp.&nbsp;299–317 (1997). {{BookCat}} bx33bj5keomfci1ajfg7ofkva1otmfq Aros/Platforms/x86 Complete System HCL 0 237398 4520789 4520657 2025-07-01T16:32:17Z Jeff1138 301139 4520789 wikitext text/x-wiki {{ArosNav}} ==Introduction== This a list of computer hardware tested with mostly native AROS installs and, in the recommended sections, of virtual machines With 64bit support it is recommended 8Gb ram is needed and that SSE 4.1 and AVX are supported in the CPU i.e. from year 2012 for Intel CPUs and 2013 for AMD CPUs. They are x86-64 instruction sets designed to perform the same operations on multiple data items simultaneously, a technique known as Single Instruction, Multiple Data (SIMD). This allows for increased performance in tasks involving parallel computation. SSE 4.1 is a 128-bit SIMD instruction set, while AVX introduced 256-bit SIMD, further enhancing performance. Some apps require these features to run well, like 3D, multimedia decoding or JIT (javascript) in Odyssey web browser. If not the apps may work slower or might fail. If you have encountered differently (i.e. problems, incompatibilities, faults, niggles, annoyances, environment, errors, review of setup etc) please update this information. Please bear in mind that AROS has only a few hardware driver developers, whilst Linux counts in the tens and Windows in the hundreds. So consequently, be aware that driver support on native is now a decade behind linux, MacOS(TM) and Windows(TM). Although still being worked upon Alternatively, an hosted OS (windows or linux) of AROS could give better results. [[#Laptops]] [[#Netbook]] [[#Desktop Systems]] [[#Recommended hardware (32-bit)]] [[#Recommended hardware (64-bit)]] === Laptops === [[#top|...to the top]] * 2006/2007 Dell Latitude D-series laptops - business class machines, good support in Aros, easy to replace wifi card * 2006 some [https://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/laptops-portable-pcs/laptops-and-netbooks/toshiba-satellite-pro-a200-28550/review Satellite Pro A200] * 2008 For the tiny carry anywhere, the early run of Acer Aspire netbooks Rough estimate from taking a random laptop notebook what you can expect from a Native install of AROS {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Date ! width="5%" |Overall ! width="5%" |Gfx VESA ! width="5%" |Gfx 2D Acceleration ! width="10%" |Gfx 3D Acceleration ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Before 2002 || Poor to OK || VESA 90% || 2D 10% || {{N/A}} || Audio 10% || 40% || Wired 70% || 2% || Max RAM 512MB |- | 2002-2005 || OK || VESA 95% || 2D 10% || 3D 0% || Audio 30% || 70% || Wired 50% || 4% || Max RAM 1GB |- | 2005-2012 || Good || VESA 98% || 2D 60% || 3D 30% || Audio 60% || 80% || Wired 30% || 10% || Max RAM 2 / 4GB |- | 2013-2017 || OK || VESA 98% || 2D 10% || 3D 0% || Audio 20% || 60% || Wired 20% || 0% || Max RAM 8GB / 16GB |- | 2018-2025 || Poor || VESA 98% || 2D 0% || 3D 0% || Audio 0% || 0% || Wired 20% || 0% || Max RAM 32GB |- | 202X-202x || Poor || VESA 95% || 2D 0% || 3D 0% || Audio 0% || 0% || Wired 10% || 0% || Max RAM 64GB |- |} 3D tests now conducted with apps found in Demos/AROS/Mesa and run at default size (may need to View As -> Show All to see them. Any laptop with Windows 7(TM) 64bit or higher install, the bios and hard drive set in uefi/gpt mode (install of AROS incompatible) Most vendor suppliers get OEM (original equipment manufacturers) to make their laptops. These brand name companies purchase their laptops from *80% ODM (Original Design Manufacturer) such as Quanta, Compal, Wistron, Inventec, Foxconn (Hon Hai), Flextronics and Asus (now Pegatron) *20% MiTAC, FIC, Arima, Uniwill, ECS, Tonfang Origin and Clevo {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" | <!--OK-->{{Yes|'''Works well'''}} || <!--May work-->{{Maybe|'''Works a little'''}} || <!--Not working-->{{No|'''Does not work'''}} || <!--Not applicable-->{{N/A|'''N/A not applicable'''}} |- |} ====Acer/Gateway/Emachines==== Company founded under the name of Multitech in Taiwan in 1976, renamed to Acer or Acer Group in 1987 Order of build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Packard Bell Aspire Extensa TimeLine Travelmate </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="2%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Travelmate 505 506 507 508 Series || <!--Chipset-->P2 Celeron 466Mhz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes|boots}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Neo Magic Magic Graph 128XD (NM2160)}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 Crystal CS}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 minimal support but no audio etc - 506T, 506DX, 507T, 507DX, 508T |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 340 342 343 345 347 || <!--Chipset-->ALi M1621 with piii || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Trident Cyber 9525 || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1969 Solo-1}} || <!--USB-->2 ALi OHCI USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->a few have Intel e100 || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2000 32bit - 340T, 341T, 342T, 342TV, 343TV, 345T, 347TV |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 350 351 352 353 || <!--Chipset-->Ali with piii || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Trident Cyber Blade DSTN/Ai1 || <!--Audio-->{{No|ali5451}} || <!--USB-->2 USB 1.1 Ali M5237 OHCI || <!--Ethernet-->e100 || <!--Wireless-->Acer InviLink IEEE 802.11b || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit very limited support but no support for PCMCIA O2 Micro OZ6933 - 350T, 351TEV, 352TEV, 353TEV |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 610 series 611 612 613 614 || <!--Chipset-->815 P3 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 82815 cgc || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->Intel e100 pro || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit - 610TXVi 610T 611TXV 612TX 613TXC |- | Aspire 3003LM || SIS AMD 3000 1.8GHz || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SIS AGP M760GX (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97 SIS codec}} || 3 USB 2.0 || {{yes|SIS900}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4318 AirForce One 54g}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 sempron |- | Travelmate 2310 Series ZL6 || Intel Celeron M 360 1.4GHz with SiS 661MX || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SiS Mirage M661MX (VESA only)}} || {{yes|SIS SI7012 AC97 with realtek ALC203 codec speakers only}} || || {{yes|SIS900}} || {{N/A|LM version has pci card slot but no antenna}} || Icaros 2.1.1 || 2004 32bit - No USB boot option but boot from DVD - reports of wifi losing connection (isolate/remove the metallic grounding foil ends of the antennas) - 2312LM_L - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 3000 3002LMi 3500 5000 || <!--Chipset-->AMD CPU W-with SIS M760 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->SIS 760 || <!--Audio-->SIS || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->SIS 900 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4318 swap for Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 3050 5020 5050 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Single and Turion MK-36 Dual and RS480 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - RS482M Xpress 1100 or RS485M Xpress 1150 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio Realtek ALC883 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5006G or Broadcom BCM 4318 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit MK36 gets very hot |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 2410 2420 2430 series || <!--Chipset-->915GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel Mobile 915GMS 910GML || <!--Audio-->Intel AC97 ICH6 with ALC203 codec || <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL-8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5005GS || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 2428AWXMi - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 3610 - WISTRON MORAR 3614WLMI || <!--Chipset-->Intel 915 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 2D and 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|[http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=644066&postcount=13 AC97]}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL 8139 8139C+}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros AR5001X+, AR5BMB5 or Broadcom 4318}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.2.4 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit with good support [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6205188#post6205188 wifi issues] |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 2480 series 2483 WXMi (HannStar J MV4 94V) 2483NWXCi Aspire 3680, 3690 || <!--Chipset-->940GML i943 with Celeron 430 1.77GHz - 14.1" || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D and 3D openGL 1.x - Tunnel 181 gearbox 104 scores}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC883 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|3 USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8038 yukon sky2}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 5k AR5005G AR5BMB5 mini pci}} suspect laptop hardware issues || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 Works well shame about the internet options - noisy fan - poor battery life - no boot option for TI based mass storage sd card - Max 2GB memory - LCD Inverter Board IV12090/T-LF - |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 2490 series 2492WXMi || <!--Chipset-->940GML || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 945 2D and 3D tunnel 164 gearbox 105}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR5005GS suspect hardware issue}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit - 15inch screen - strange curved up at ends keyboard style - overall plastic construction - Atheros AR5005G(s) - |- | <!--Name-->Gateway ML6227B MA7 || <!--Chipset-->Celeron M 520 1.6Ghz with 945GM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|945GM 2D and 3D tunnel 169 gearbox 132}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDA Intel with STAC9250 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8038}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|8187L but swap ath5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 15.4 ultrabrite widescreen - Wifi Switch on side Fn/F2 - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 5630-6796 6288 BL50 || <!--Chipset-->T5200 T5500 Intel® Core™2 Duo T7200 T7400 T7600 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel® GMA 950 with S-Video out}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 USB}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom BCM4401}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945abg swap for Atheros 5K}} || <!--Test Distro-->Tiny AROS || <!--Comments-->2006 - 64bit 39.1 cm (15.4" 1280 x 800) - 2 DDR2-SDRAM slots max 4GB - green mobo?? - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 5633WMLI BL51 || <!--Chipset-->T5500 with Intel® 945PM/GM Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia Go 7300}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with Realtek codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom 440x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 swap for Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Tiny Aros || <!--Comments-->2007 64 bit dual core2 - 15.4 WXGA screen - ddr2 max 4gb - OrbiCam no support - ENE chipset SD card - blue mobo?? - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 9410 9420 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core Duo with 945PM Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300 - 128 MB VRAM G72M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel HD audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 8111 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945ABG but could swap with atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - 17in TFT 1,440 x 900 WXGA+ - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->eMachines E510 series KAL10 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Celeron M 560 2.13Ghz with PM965 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel x3100 || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel with codec}} || <!--USB-->Intel || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5906M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros G AR5BXB63 bios issue??}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2007 32bit very budget machine with InsydeH20 bios and F10 boot menu |- | <!--Name-->ACER Aspire 5920 5920G || <!--Chipset-->Santa Rosa Core 2 Duo T7300 T7500 later T9300 with GM965 and PM965(G) Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for X3100M or 8600M GS (rev a1) 9500M GT 256MB vram (G) but some AMD/ATI RV635 M86 HD 3650}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with realtek alc888 codec ICH8}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5787M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945ABG 4965 or Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro-->Deadwood test iso 2023-01 2023-11 || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit boot with 'noacpi' or 'noioapic' - 15.4in 1280 x 800 pixels 16:10 - BMW Designworks ‘Gemstone’ design - over 3.0kg with options for 8-cell or 6-cell batteries - 2 SODIMM DDR2 667MT/s max 4GB - synaptics touchpad - |- | <!--Name-->Acer A0521 Ao721 || Athlon II Neo K125 + AMD M880G || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{maybe|ATI Radeon HD 4225 (VESA only)}} || {{No|Conexant}} || {{Maybe}}|| {{no|AR8152 l1c}} || {{no|AR9285 ath9k}} || AspireOS 1.7 || 2006 64bit possible |- | <!--Name--> Extensa 5630Z || <!--Chipset-->T6600 with Intel GL40 Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Yes|Intel GMA 4500M HD (2D)}} || <!--Audio--> {{Yes|HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> {{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet--> {{No|Broadcom BCM 5764M}} || <!--Wireless--> {{No|RaLink RT2860}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit |- |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 5250 series 5253 BZ400 BZ602 || <!--Chipset-->E350 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{no|VESA 2D for AMD HD6310}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDaudio for codec Conexant CX20584}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8151}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros 9k AR5B97}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire V5 V5-121 V5121 AO725 One 725 || <!--Chipset-->AMD C-70 C70 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{no|VESA for AMD 6290G}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|Realtek ALC269 codec}} || <!--USB-->2 x USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire V5-122P MS2377 || <!--Chipset-->C-70 C70 with M55, AMD A4-1250 or A6 1450 up to 1.4Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->AMD 8210 || <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec || <!--USB-->FCH USB EHCI OHCI || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169 but LAN/VGA Combo Port Cable (AK.LAVGCA 001) or MiniCP port to Acer Converter Cable (Mini CP to VGA/LAN/USB) (NP.OTH11 00C) needed}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros 9k AR9565}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aros One || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit but no sse4 or avx - 26w battery internal, extension possible - 11.6in 1366 x 768 ips touchscreen - 7mm hd ssd - 2gb ddr3l soldered with 1 slot free max 4GB - bios hacking needed for virtualisation - |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell EasyNote TE69 TE69KB 522 || <!--Chipset-->slow E1-2500, E2-3800 2c2t Dual or A4-5000 4c4t Quad both soldered BGA769 (FT3) on Hudson-2 FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Use IDE mode}} setting AHCI to IDE mode - boots if UEFI set to Legacy || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for ATI Radeon 8120 8240, 8320, 8330 or 8280 islands}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AMD Azalia HD Audio with ALC282 0x10ec0282 codec but not HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|Bios, Boot, set Boot mode to Legacy, nothing from USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8171 AR8175 or Broadcom BCM57780}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9565 0x1969 0x10a1}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aspire OS Xenon and AROS One 1.6 usb || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit with sse4.1 and AVX - 15.6in washed out screen big netbook - Boots with noacpi after using F2 to enter EFI firmware and f12 boot device - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots max 16Gb - |- | <!--Name-->ASPIRE Acer Aspire ES1-520 521 522 Series N15C4 ES1-523 || <!--Chipset-->AMD AMD E1-7010, A8-7410 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA for RADEON R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|Realtek ALC 233 or CX20752 HD AUDIO CODEC}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8151 Gigabit or Broadcom 590x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek RTL8187 or 8812BU}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aros One || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit with sse4.1 and AVX - 2 ddr3l slots - keyboard connected to top case - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 3, 5 A515-44-R0ZN || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 4500u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in or 15.6" 1080p - 19v round charging - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr0tC3QJWxk repair], 4gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Swift 3 SF314-43, Swift SF315-41 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 7 5700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 1080p - small round ac or usb-c - |- | <!--Name-->Swift 3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Asus==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Asus L8400-K Medion MD9467 || <!--Chipset-->Intel desktop 850MHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->S3 Savage MX || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS allegro 1988}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Asus L2000 L2400 L2D Series Medion 9675 || <!--Chipset-->Athlon 4 mobile || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use vesa sis630 || <!--Audio-->{{No|sis7018}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->sis900 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->x51R X51RL || <!--Chipset-->Duo T2250 T2330 with RS480 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|boots and detects}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL-8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR5006EG AR5111 ath5k AzureWave AW-GE780 - could be ATI Chipset}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2, deadwood 2021, || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit 15.4 WXGA - 19v barrel - ESC boot select - F2 bios - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Asus R2H Ultra Mobile PC UMPC || <!--Chipset-->Celeron 900Mhz 910GML || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA900 || <!--Audio-->Ac97 ALC880 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8169 8101e || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm4fOrqyj3g boots] |- | <!--Name-->Asus A3 series A3F Ergo Ensis 211 RM || <!--Chipset-->P-M 1.6GHz to Core Duo with 950 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945 || <!--Audio-->Ac97 ALC655 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8100CL 10/100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit only |- | <!--Name-->Z33 || <!--Chipset-->915 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->915GM || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC880 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 2915ABG || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit Z33A Z33AE N5M N5A |- | Z70A Z70V Z70Va M6A z7000 z7000a || i915 + ICH6 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|mobile 915GML}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|ICH6 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Marvell 88E8001}} || {{no|Intel PRO 2200BG Fn / F2}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2005 32bit |- | [http://www.progweb.com/en/2010/09/linux-sur-un-portable-asus-a6jm/ A6jm] A6JC || 945GM || IDE || SATA || {{yes|nVidia GeForce Go 7600 G70}} || {{no|HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|RTL8111 8168B}} || {{no|Intel 3945 ABG}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2006 32bit only |- | <!--Name-->F3Jc || <!--Chipset-->945PM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->G72M Quadro NVS 110M, GeForce Go 7300 || <!--Audio-->D audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8169 8111 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->X50GL F5GL || <!--Chipset-->T5800 with 965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA 2d - Nvidia 8200M G84 runs hot}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio MCP79 with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|MCP79}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR5B91 AW-NE77}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2 || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit not much support no display with nouveau - 19v barrel - ddr2 max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS G50 & G51 series G50V G50Vt G51V G51VX G51J G51Jx G50VT X1 X5 ROG || <!--Chipset-->AMD64 with MCP71 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} || <!--Gfx-->nVidia GeForce 9800M GS (G94M) up to GT200 [GeForce GTX 260M] (G92M) || <!--Audio-->Nvidia HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros L1C atl1c}} || <!--Wireless-->Atheros G or Intel || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit not all GPUs are failing but a much higher % failing early, 8x00 and 9x00 G84, G86, G92, G94, and G96 series chips dying - ddr2 max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->M50V M50 series || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core 2 Duo P8400 or T9400 with Intel PM45 ICH9 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|BIOS set to compatibility IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GS or 9650M GT || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC663 || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 realtek 8169 8111C}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 5100 or Atheros AR928X}}|| <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.0 USB || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit - 15.40 inch 16:10, 1680 x 1050 glossy - the "Infusion" design - heavy 3kg - ddr2 ram max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->Series F9 F9E F9dc F9f F9j F9s || <!--Chipset-->965GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Vesa}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio ALC660 playback}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|works}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|intel 3495 not working}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.41 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit - ddr2 max 4gb - |- | P52F SO006X || i3-370M || IDE || SATA || {{yes|nVidia G92 [GeForce 9800 GT] (2D)}} || {{no|Intel HD Audio}} || {{yes|2 USB2.0}} || {{no|Atheros AR8121 AR8113 AR8114 (l1e)}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2010 64bit - ddr3 slot - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Asus * X53U MB Ver K53U or K52U Asus K53U MB Ver K53U * A53U XT2 X53B MB ver: K53BY (compal) || <!--Chipset-->Slow atom like speed E-350 (2011), E-450 (2011) on AMD M780G, much slower C-50 C50 (2012), C-60 C60 on the AMD A50M dark brown plastic build || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|Set IN Bios IDE MODE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA ATi 6310M, 6320M later 6250M or 6290M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with alc269 codec Altec Lansing® Speakers}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|3 x USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|rtl8169 with RTL8111 phy}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros half height ar9285 cannot swap with ar5000 mini pci-e as smaller card required}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 and AROS One 1.6 USB || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6in 1368 x 768 dull 50% srgb screen - f2 bios setup, esc boot drive - 5200 or 7800 mAh battery covers ASUS K53S K53E X54C X53S K84L X53SV X54HR K53F X53U laptops - 2 DDR3L slots max 8Gb - 19v barrel 5.5 / 2.5 mm - |- | <!--Name-->Asus K53T, Asus A53Z X53Z || <!--Chipset-->AMD A4-3305M on AMD M780G, A6-3420M dark brown plastic build || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|Set IN Bios IDE MODE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD 6520G, 7670M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|3 x USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 with RTL8111 phy}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros half height}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6in 1368 x 768 dull 50% srgb screen - f2 bios setup, esc boot drive - 2 DDR3L slots max 8Gb - 19v barrel 5.5 / 2.5 mm - Altec Lansing® Speakers - |- | <!--Name-->X55U X401U X501U 1225B || <!--Chipset-->slow C-60 C60, C-70 C70 or E1 1200 E2 1800 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->6290G || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9485 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6" display - ram soldered - |- | <!--Name-->Asus A43TA A53TA K53TA XE2 A73T || <!--Chipset-->AMD A4-3300M, A6 3400M (laptop chip) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|Set IN Bios IDE MODE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA AMD Radeon HD 6520G Integrated + HD 6470M (1GB GDDR3)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - f2 bios setup, esc boot drive - |- | <!--Name-->X102BA || <!--Chipset-->Llano E1 1200 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|ide bios setting}} || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 8180 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 10.1” Touchscreen - special asus 45w ac adapter - |- | <!--Name-->K55N, K75DE || <!--Chipset-->AMD a6 4400M A8 4500M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD 7640G || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC codec none through ATi Trinity HDMI || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9485 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 17.3-inch - |- | <!--Name-->X452EA X552EA F552E || <!--Chipset-->AMD E1 2100 or A4 5000M A8 4500M A10 4600M with A || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for AMD ATI Sun XT Radeon HD 8330 8670A 8670M 8690M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AMD FCH Azalia rev 02 with ALC898 codec}} || <!--USB-->USB3 with USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{{Yes|Realtek RTL8111 8168 8411}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9485}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit may support avx kabini trinity - |- | <!--Name-->Asus X555Y - keyboard from Asus X555B X555D X555L X555S X555U X555Y X555LA fits? silver-colored plastic || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-7210 A8-7410 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk }} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for AMD R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->Realtek || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr3 slot - silver-colored plastic - internal battery - |- | <!--Name-->Asus X555D || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-8700P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for AMD R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr3 slot - silver-coloured plastic - internal battery - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS X555Q || <!--Chipset-->AMD® Bristol Ridge A10-9600P 7th Gen, A12-9720p || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->R5 + Radeon™ R6 M435DX Dual Graphics with VRAM GCN 3 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8821AE || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - FHD 15.6 1920x1080 - 37W battery internal - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr3 slot - internal battery - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M509ba || <!--Chipset-->AMD A9-9425 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->RADEON R5 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot max 16Gb - 19VDC 2.37A Max 45W 4.0mm x 1.35mm - keyboard swap problematic - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset-->AMD || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVme || <!--Gfx-->AMD || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS Vivibook M509DA X509DA M509DJ M509DL or M409DJ M409DA X409DA M409BA || <!--Chipset-->AMD® Ryzen™ 2c Athlon Silver 3050U 3200U, 4c AMD® Ryzen™ 5 3500U 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->{{No|nvme}} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for AMD Vega 5 8 or nvidia MX230 MX250}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS one || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14" or 15" transparent Silver Slate Grey - 4 or 8g soldered and 1 ddr4 sodimm slot max 8g - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ExpertBook P1410, ASUS ExpertBook P1 P1510CD || <!--Chipset-->3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit 14in or 15.6in - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ZenBook UM431DA, Vivobook X515DA M515DA, VivoBook X512DA M512DA, || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3500u 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVme || <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega 8 or 10 || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14" 1080p - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Zenbook 14 UM433, UM425IA, Vivobook M413DA || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 4500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in 1080p - asus round ac - |- | <!--Name-->Vivobook X513, Asus Vivobook 15 M513 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 5500U, 7 5700u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme and might have 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - round asus ac - |- | <!--Name-->Zenbook Flip 14 || <!--Chipset-->AMD R7 6800H || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 14inch 1080p - |- | <!--Name-->Vivobook Go 15 E1504FA || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 7320U, AMD Ryzen 5 7520U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio for codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No| USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ==== Dell ==== [[#top|...to the top]] Order of build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Studio Inspiron Vostro XPS Alienware Precision Latitude </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="10%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Latitude CP 233GT, CPi d233xt d266xt D300XT a366xt, CPt S400GT S500GT S550GT S600GT S700ST, CPt C333GT C400GT || <!--Chipset-->Neo Magic || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - Neo magic Magic Media 2160 2360 256ZX || <!--Audio-->{{No|crystal pnp 4237b or magic media 256zx sound nm2360}} || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit Low-Density 16-chip 144p 144-pin 32Mx64 3.3V SODIMM - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Latitude CPx H450GT H500GT H Series, CPt V433GT V466GT V600, Inspiron 5000 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 440BX with Pentium 3M (CPx) or Celeron (CPt) || <!--IDE-->{{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use Vesa - ATi Rage Pro Mobility M1}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1978 Maestro 2E Canyon 3D}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|1 slot 1.1 only}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Test Distro-->NB May 2013 || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit - 3 pin PA-6 PA6 power adapter plug - CDROM DVD Cxxx family media bay accessories untested |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C500 C600 (Quanta TM6) Inspiron 4000 7500, CPx J Series || <!--Chipset-->440BX ZX/DX || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|ATI Rage 128Pro Mobility M3 (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|ES1983S Maestro 3i}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 1.1 only}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A|some models had mini pci e100}}|| <!--Wireless-->{{N/A|a few came with internal antenna wiring}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->1999 square 3 pin charger PA9 PA-9 - C/Dock II untested - C/Port untested - Parallel to Floppy cable untested - CPx J600GT J650GT J700GT J750GT J800GT J850GT |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C510 C610 Insprion 4100 PP01L 2600 || <!--Chipset-->i830 and 1GHz+ P3-M || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|use VESA - ATI Radeon Mobility M6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 CS4205}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|3Com Etherlink}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|internal antenna wiring for an Atheros mini pci card}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2000 poor build quality - hard to find in good working order |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C400 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 830 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Intel 830 CGC}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ac97 Crystal 4205}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|3Com 3c905C TX/TX-M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2000 Slim for the time - no media bays |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C640 (Quanta TM8) C840 Inspiron 8k2 8200 i8200 precision m50 || <!--Chipset-->P4M with 845EP || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA if ATi - use nouveau if 64mb Nvidia Gforce 4 440 Go || <!--Audio-->AC97 CS4205 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->3com 905c || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 C640 had one fan so was noisy and hot - C840 had 2 fans and ran slightly cooler but fan noise louder |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | Latitude D400 || P-M 82845 || {{yes|82801 ide}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|VESA only}} || {{yes|AC97 Audio playback only}} || {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || {{maybe|PRO 100 VM (KM)}} || {{no|BCM4318 AirForce one 54g replace with atheros 5k mini pci}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit might boot from USB stick but won't boot from USB-DVD - no sd card slot - power plug style - |- | Latitude D500 / D505 PP10L, Inspiron 510m || 855GME * revA00 * revA03 * revA06 | {{yes|IDE but needs the Dell adapter}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|855GM Gfx (VESA only)}} || {{Yes|Intel AC97 with IDT STAC 9750 codec playback head phones only}} || {{maybe| }} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VE}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4306 but exchange with atheros g in panel on laptop bottom}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || 2003 - 14 / 15 inch XGA 4:3 screen - plastic build - no sd card slot - boots from bay optical drive - not powering on/off with ac adapter is a [http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=37&topicid=30585 mobo fault of PC13 SMT 1206 ceramic cap hot] suggest [http://www.die4laser.com/D505fix/ 0.1uF 50V instead] - pc2700 333Mhz ram 1Gb max - |- | Latitude D505 (some) || VIA VT8237 VX700 || {{yes|IDE}} || || {{partial|VESA 2d on ATI RV350 Radeon 9550}} || {{no|VIA AC97 with codec}} || {{maybe|VIA USB glitchy}} || {{yes|VIA VT6102 Rhine-II}} || {{no|Intel 2200g Calexico2}} || <!--Test Distro--> || 2003 32bit little support - diagnostics pressing holding the Fn key, press the Power ON button (battery removed). Check the LEDs pattern - cmos battery behind flap in laptop battery slot - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1000 || <!--Chipset-->SIS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use VESA SIS}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 SIS with AD1981B codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|SIS 900 but}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit [https://forum.level1techs.com/t/my-time-with-icaros-desktop-and-what-i-am-doing-as-a-dev-contributor-also-some-other-shit/113358 aremis using it] |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1100 PP07L || <!--Chipset-->845 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Intel 845G}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC'97 playback}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom 4401}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2004 |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 8500 5150 || <!--Chipset-->P4 855GM || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia 5200 Go - VESA if intel gfx}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|MCP AC97 with SigmaTel 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom 440x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4306 rev 02 use Atheros Mini PCI}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit P4 runs well but hot |- | Latitude X300 PP04S small, slim and light case || 855GME * revA00 Intel ULV 1.2 Ghz * revA01 Intel ULV 1.4Ghz | {{yes|IDE internal and will boot cd/dvd through dock PR04S}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|855GM Gfx (VESA only)}} || {{Yes|Intel AC97 with STAC 97xx codec but no audio out of the dock}} || {{maybe|works but dock usb ports and usb DVD PD01S not detected}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM5705M gigabit}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4306 later intel - replace with atheros in the underside}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1, AROS One 1.6 usb, || 2003 12.1" 1024 x 768 - 19.5v PA-10 or PA-12 dell - ACPI works but bad s3 ram suspend sleep - no sd card boot - 1Gb max sodimm ddr 2700 |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D600 (Quanta JM2) PP05L - 600m || <!--Chipset-->82855 PM i855 * reva00 * revA01 * revA02 * revA03 * revA04 | <!--IDE--> {{yes}} || <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA - ATI Radeon RV250 Mobility FireGL 9000}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 - STAC 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5705}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 2100 or Broadcom BCM4306 - swap for Atheros panel in base}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.3 and [http://www.amiga.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-62187.html 1.4.1 and 2.1.1] || <!--Opinion-->2003 32bit 14inch using pc2100 memory with Caps light blinking is usually a memory error - Dell D505 D600 power up pressing the case docking port - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D600 (Quanta JM2) || <!--Chipset-->82855 PM i855 || <!--IDE--> {{yes}} || <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D only vidia NV28 GeForce4 Ti 4200 Go 5200 Go 5650 Go}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 - STAC 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5705}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom BCM4306 mini pci - swap for Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.3 and [http://www.amiga.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-62187.html 1.4.1] || <!--Opinion-->2003 32bit 14" - solder joints on the bios chip (press down f7/f8 keys) - RAM clean with eraser - memory cover plate maybe apply some pressure - |- | <!--Name-->D800 (Compal LA-1901) || <!--Chipset-->Intel 855 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom 570x || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom 4309 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - trackpoint type pointing device - |- | <!--Name-->D800 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 855 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{No|Nvidia }} || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom 570x || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom 4309 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit 15inch 39cm |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1200 2200 PP10S Latitude 110L m350 1.3Ghz || <!--Chipset-->Intel 915GM || <!--IDE--> {{yes|UDMA boots cd or DVD and installs to HDisk}} || <!--SATA--> {{N/A}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA900 (2D and 3D openGL 1.x) Gearbox 56}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 playback only}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Intel PRO 100 VE}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|BroadCom BCM4318 - swap for Atheros mini PCI in base panel}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.5 || <!--Comments-->2005 single core 32bit 14" 4:3 1024 768 XGA screen - heavy 6 lbs - PA16 barrel 19V 3.16A AC adapter - battery life 4cell 29WHr lasts 2 hours - 256mb soldered with 1 ddr pc2100 sodimm 1gb max - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1300 business B130 home PP21L Latitude 120L B120 by Compal - Inspiron 630m || <!--Chipset-->Intel Celeron M360 1.4GHz, M370 1.50 GHz, M380 1.73GHz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes|boots cd or DVD and installs to HDisk}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 915 2D and 3D openGL 1.x tunnel 172 gearbox 70}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio playback ear phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|works but waiting boot fail with AROS One usb version}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom 440x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|intel 2200 or BCM4318 swap for Atheros mini pci underside - one antenna lead for main wifi}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2, AROS One 1.6 usb, || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit single core - 14.1″ XGA 4:3 or 15.4" WXGA wide 1280 x 800 matte - ddr2 sodimm ram 2gb max - PA-16 19v psu tip 7.4mm * 5mm - f10 boot select f1 f2 bios |- | Latitude X1 PP05S || PP-M GMA915 rev A00 1.1GHz non-pae || {{yes|ide 1.8in zif/ce under keyboard}} || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|Vesa for Intel 915GM}} || {{yes|AC97 6.6 playback only with STAC codec}} || {{maybe|USB 2.0 but partial boot to blank screen}} || {{No|Broadcom 5751}} || {{no|Intel 2200BG - swap for Atheros mini pci under keyboard palm rest - disassembly of all laptop}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 dvd iso image virtualbox'd onto usb, Aros One 1.5 and 1.8 usb (2022) || 2005 32bit 12.1" 4:3 1024 x 768 - sd slot not bootable - 256mb soldered to board and 1 sodimm max 1GB ddr2 under keyboard - F12 bios boot F2 - pa-17 pa17 19v octagonal psu port |- | Latitude D410 PP06S *rev A00 *A01, A02 *A03 || GMA915 1.6GHz Pentium® M 730, 1.7GHz, 750 1.86GHz & 760 2.0GHz, 770 2.13GHz || {{yes|caddy and adapter needed 2.5" - remove hdd and write}} || {{N/A}} || {{Yes|Intel 915GM 2D and 3D OpenGL 1.3 tunnel 170 and gearbox 75}} || {{yes|AC97 playback only with STAC 9751 codec}} || {{maybe|works but will not boot from USB-DVD or AROS One 1.5 usb version}} || {{No|Broadcom 5751}} || {{no|Intel 2915ABG or later 2200BG - swap for Atheros mini pci under keyboard}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4, 2.1.1 and AROS One 1.5 usb, || 2005 32bit 12.1" 4:3 1024 x 768 - no sd card slot - PR06S dock base |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D510 (Quanta DM1) || <!--Chipset-->915GM socket 479 || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 915 2D and 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 STAC 975x}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG swap Atheros mini pci in base}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 14.1" 32bit single core Intel Celeron M 1.6GHz Pentium M 730 1.73Ghz - squarish 3:2 - issues with 3rd party battery 4 quick flashes of red led with 1 final green |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D610 (Quanta JM5B) PP11L || <!--Chipset-->910GML 915GM with mobile 1.6 to 2.26ghz * Rev A0x * Rev A0x * Rev A07 1.73Ghz | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 915 2D and 3D tunnel 174 gearbox 74}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 speaker head phones playback only with stac codec}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 2200BG or Broadcom mini pci under keyboard, swap wifi card for atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 14" 1024 x 768 - very noisy clicky trackpad buttons - one dimm slot under keyboard and other in underside 2GB 533Mhz 667Mhz DDR2 max - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D610 (Quanta JM5B) 0C4717 REV A05, 0K3879 REV.A00 || <!--Chipset-->915GM || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA 2d - Ati X300 no radeon 2d}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG mini pci use Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 14" 1024 x 768 - very noisy clicky trackpad buttons - 19.5v psu |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D810 (Quanta ) || <!--Chipset-->915GM || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA 2d - Ati X300 RV370 M22 later x600}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 stereo playback only idt 9751 codec}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0 but no boot from usb on 1.5}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG mini pci replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1, aros one 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 15.4" F12 one time boot menu - 19.5v 90w psu ideal - battery not same as later dx20 ones - |- | <!--Name-->Studio XPS M1210 || <!--Chipset-->GM945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->nVidia G72M 7300 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92xx || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401 B0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4311 - swap for Atheros 5k mini pci-e}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Inspirion E1705 9200 9300 9400 || <!--Chipset-->945GM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia 6800, ati X300 or nVidia 7900GS gpu 3d corrupt || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 swap with Atheros 5k mini pcie || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->[http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=6481 increasing vertical lines issues] |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1501 PP23LA Latitude 131L || <!--Chipset-->AMD on ATI RS480 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA 2d - ATI 1150 (x300) RS482M Mobility Radeon Xpress 200}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with stac 92xx codec}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom bcm 4401}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bcm4311 replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit 15.4 inch Matt 16:10, 1280x800 pixel, WXGA TFT Display - first Dell AMD machine - Sempron 1.8GHz Turion MK-36 or X2 1.6Ghz TL-50 or TL-56 |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 6000 6400, E1505 PP20L, 9300, 9200 PP14L *A00 Pentium M *A0? Core Duo || <!--Chipset-->GM945 with PM 1.73Ghz, T2050 or T2060 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|vesa 2d - Ati 9700, x1300 RV515 M52, x1400 or nvidia go 7300 on mxm board}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio IDT 9200}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|usb boot }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom BCM4401 B0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200 3945 - swap for Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1, AROS One 1.6 || <!--Comments-->2006 mostly 32bit but - 15.4 inch glossy - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots - broadcom bcm92045 bluetooth detected but no support - 19.5v dell psu socket - f2 bios setup, f12 boot order - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 6400 (Quanta FM1) *A00 Pentium M *A0? Core Duo *A08 Core2 Duo || <!--Chipset-->GM945 with BGA479 (socket M) T2050 1.6Ghz, T2060 1.60Ghz, T2080 1.73Ghz much later T5500 1.66Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 2D and 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with IDT 92xx codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom BCM4401 B0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4311 swap for Atheros 5k mini pci-e under keyboard}} || <!--Test Distro-->deadwood 2019-04-16 iso || <!--Comments-->2006 mostly 32bit - 15.4" glossy - sd card - front multimedia keys - dvd rw - generic dell keyboard - coin cr2032 bios battery under keyboard - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 640m PP19L XPS M140 e1405 || <!--Chipset-->Core Solo T2050, T2300 Duo 1.83GHz T2400 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM4401-B0 100Base || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 or Broadcom 43xx, swap for Atheros 5k - Wireless Internet ON or OFF press the Function key + F2}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32 bit - 12.1 LCD CCFL WXGA 1280x800 up to 14.1 inch 16:10 1440x900 pixel, WXGA+ UltraSharp - supports also SSE3 on duos - |- | <!--Name-->Precision M65 M90 XPS M1710 || <!--Chipset-->945PM with T2600 T2700 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->nVidia Quadro FX 350M 1600M 1500M G71 on par with the Go7900 GS to GTX 7950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with STAC 92XX codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5752 || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom BCM4311 BCM4328 swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 17" workstation type WXGA+ screen manufactured by AU Optronics poor viewing angles, unevenly lit, light leakage |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D420 (Compal LA-3071P) PP09S || <!--Chipset-->945 * revA00 Solo 1.2Ghz ULV U1400 * revA01 Duo 1.06Ghz u2500 * revA02 Duo 1.2Ghz | <!--IDE-->{{yes|ZIF/CE 1.8" slow under battery, ribbon cable}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA950 - 2D and 3D opengl tunnel 138 gearbox 103}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with STAC 92xx playback speakers head phones only)}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|2 and external usb optical drive works}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 mini pcie - swap Atheros 5k in base panel}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros Desktop 1.4 || <!--Opinion-->2006 32bit only - 12.1" 1280x800 - PR09S dock base rev02 DVD-RW usb boots - 1GB DDR2 2Rx16 max in base panel - f2 setup f5 diagnostics f12 boot list - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D520 PP17L || <!--Chipset--> * 64bit rev A01, A02 945GM Core2 Duo 1.83Ghz to 2.3Ghz * 32bit rev A00, A01 940GML Solo later Duo T2400 | <!--IDE-->{{yes|DVD-ROM Rev00 Philips SDR089 - CDRW/DVDROM Philips CDD5263 or TEAC DW224EV - DVD+-RW Rev00 Optiarc AD-5540A or HL-DL-ST GSAT21N, rev01 TSSTcorp TS-L632D}} || {{Yes|bios sata set to ide mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 900 series 2D and OpenGL1 3D tunnel 210 gearbox 153 teapot 27}} || {{Yes|HD audio with STAC 9200 codec}} || {{Yes|Boots and detects USB2.0}} || {{Yes|Broadcom 4400}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4312 BCM4321 Dell 1390 / 1490 mini pcie - easy to replace with atheros 5k in base panel}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4 and 2.2 and AROS One usb 1.8 and grub boot add 'noacpi' || 2006 mostly 64bit 4:3 aspect ratio 14.1 (XGA 1024x768) or later 15 inches (XGA+ 1400 by 1050) - F2 enter bios F12 choose boot - 19.5v dell tip pa-12 charger - bios coin cell cr2032 battery socketed in base panel - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D620 (Compal LA-2792) PP18L || <!--Chipset-->945GMS * rev A00 all Core Duo's 32 bit * rev A0x all Core 2 Duo's 64 bit | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 950 (2D and 3D tunnel gearbox opengl1 || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio playback}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 3945 mini pcie swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->AspireOS Xenon || <!--Opinion-->2006 64bit AROS capable with later revisions - 14" 1280 x 800 |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D620 || <!--Chipset-->Intel i945 * revA00 all Core Duo's 32 bit * revA01 all Core 2 Duo's 64 bit | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia 7300, 7600 NVS 110M G72 || <!--Audio-->{{dunno|HD Audio with STAC 9200 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless--> {{dunno}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2007 1440x900 screen - LA-2792P Rev.2.0 - DT785 UC218 Fan/ Heatsink (64bit) - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D820 (Quanta JM6) || <!--Chipset-->945GMS 940GML * rev A00 * rev A01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 2D and 3D tunnel 195 - 100? gearbox 156}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with STAC 9200 playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|BCM4310 replace with mini pcie atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Opinion-->2007 widescreen 15 inch 1280 x 800 matte - - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D820 (Quanta JM) || <!--Chipset-->945GMS 940GML * revA00 * revA01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Nvidia NVS 110M 120M G72}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio STAC 9200}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|BCM4310 swap with Atheros 5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2007 64bit 15.4 1650x1050 WXGA or WSXGA+ or 1920x1200 WUXGA - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Latitude D531 15" || <!--Chipset-->AMD Turion X2 TL56 or TL60 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA - ATi xpress X1270}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with IDT codec || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 57xx}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 or Dell Wireless 1390, 1505 or BCM4311 mini pcie || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit possible - no trackpoint - fails and goes wrong often - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D430 PP09S || <!--Chipset-->945 with Core2 Duo C2D U7500 1.06GHz U7600 1.2GHz U7700 1.33GHz * rev A00 * rev A01 * rev A02 | <!--IDE-->ZIF PATA IDE 1.8inch under battery and ribbon cable - slow use USB instead || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|945GML 2D and 3D opengl 1.x 171 tunnel 105 gearbox}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|STAC 92xx HD Audio speaker and ear phone - mono speaker}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|3 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 4965 AGN or 3945 ABG mini pci-e underside with Atheros 5k mini pci-e}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aspire 1.8 || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit capable - sd card not supported - 19.5v PA12 power adapter - 12.1" 1280x800 matte - f2 setup f5 diagnostics f12 boot list - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D530 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 + ICH8 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|nVidia Quadro NVS 135M 2D 3d glitches G86}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.5 || <!--Comments-->2007 [http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=6481 ] cool air intake from underneath needed with pa-10 or pa-3e 90w psu required - standard 4:3 ratio aspect screen - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D630 (Compal LA-3301P) PP18L || <!--Chipset-->GM965 + ICH8 T7250 2.0Ghz T7300 * revA00 * revA01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA X3100 (2D only, no external monitor)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio STAC 9205 but speaker and head phones}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB 2.0}}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom BCM4312 swap with pci-e Atheros 5k under keyboard}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit possible - F12 to choose boot option - 2 ddr2 sodimm max 4G - 4400mah 48Wh battery lasts 2 hours - 6600mah 73Wh lasts just over 3 hours |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D630 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 + ICH8 * revA00 [http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=6481 ] GPU heatpad, no copper * revA01 0DT785 heatsink | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|use VESA as nVidia NVS 135M 3d corrupts 0.7 tunnel 0.25 gearbox G86}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG swap with Atheros 5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.5 || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D830 || <!--Chipset-->965GM with Core2 * revA00 * revA01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GM965 crestline 2d and 3d tunnel 115}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|replace with Atheros 5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros || <!--Comments-->2007 15 inch 1280 x 900 but updating the LCD to WXGA or WSXGA+ could be better - 2 ddr2 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D830 || <!--Chipset-->ICH8, Core2 DUO T7800 @ 2.60GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Intel ICH8M Serial ATA || <!--Gfx-->nVidia Quadro NVS 140M G86 || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with STAC 92XX codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit || <!--Wireless-->Intel Wireless 4965AGN swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.03 || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit 15." - FN,F2 or FN,F8 or FN,F12 |- | <!--Name-->XPS M1330 M1530 M1730 - WISTRON Hawke || <!--Chipset-->965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{No|Intel 965 with either Nvidia 8400M 8600M 8700M or 8800GT G84 G86}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio STAC 9228 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom or Marvell 88E8040 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro-->ICAROS 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit Did not boot |- | <!--Name-->Precision M2300 M4300 M6300 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|use VESA nVidia Quadro FX 360M (8400GS) 3600M 3500M 2500M G86 to G92}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG 4965 swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2007 14" 15.6" 17" |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 1310 1510 (Compal LA-4592P) 1710 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo T7600 or Celeron 540 GMA965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GM965 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC268 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 4965 swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit Celeron 540 added 64 bit support (doubling transistor count) |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 1320 1520 (Compal LA-4592P) 1720 (Compal LA-4671P) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 965 || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC268 or IDT 92HD8X codec || <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4312 or Dell Wireless 1397}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 up to 17 inch with 13.3 inch WXGA Anti-Glare matt or glossy LED Display (1280 x 800) - |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 1320 1520 (Compal LA-4592P) 1720 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvdia 9300m to 9600M GS G96 || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC268 or IDT 92HD8X codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4312 swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 15.4” screen Vostro 1520 with excessive heat buildup on the left hand side palm rest |- | <!--Name-->Precision M2400 M4400 M6400 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA 2d for nVidia Quadro FX 770M G86}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2008 14" 15.6" 17" |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1525 PP29L || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo or Core2 Duo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT codec || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4312}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 32bit much later 64bit 15.4" 1200 x 800 - 19.5v dell psu - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1545 PP41L || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 4500MHD || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HD71B codec || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8040}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4312}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 15.6" |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E4200 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo U9400 U9300 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->64gig ssd with ribbon cable || <!--Gfx-->Intel GM45 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HD 71B7X codec || <!--USB--> NEC uPD720202 || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82567LM}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4322 or Intel’s 5100 or 5300}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64 - 12.1in 1,280 x 800 poor color accuracy magnesium alloy body - easily replaced keyboard - 1 ddr3 sodimm slot - Microdia cam - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E5400 E5500 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio but no sound}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM5761e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E4300 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core 2 Duo P9400 2.4GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 4500 MHD || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HDxxx || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82567LM || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel PRO Wireless 5300 AGN}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit - 13.3" WXGA - sd card Broadcom BCM5880 - |- | <!--Name-->Lattitude E6400 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo P9500 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel GMA 4500M HD 2D with NVIDIA QUADRO NVS 160M G98}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD with IDT 92HD71 codec or later 92HDM61}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom BCM4312 or Intel 5300 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 early ones problems with the keyboard ribbon cable connector, trackpoints were not good |- | <!--Name-->Latittude E4310 E5410 ATG || <!--Chipset-->Intel 5 series Intel Core i5 560M 1st gen || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA HD 5700 mhd || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with IDT 92HDxx Codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82577LM || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4313 too small 30x30 to swap}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64Bit clarkdale codename CPUs - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E6410 E6510 E6310 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core i7 620M i7 820QM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|NVidia NVS 3100M GT218 2D but 3D through external monitor}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio IDT 92HD81}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom or Intel 6200AGN or Link 6300}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3 || <!--Comments-->2010 64 bit |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron M5030 || <!--Chipset-->rev A01 AMD V120, V140 rev A0? V160 M880G || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA RS880M Radeon HD 4225, 4250}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with ALC269q codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8152 v2}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - DDR3 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1546 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 4330M 530v || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 91HD81 codec || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8103EL-GR || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - 15.6" - alps touchpad - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->XPS 15 15Z L501X L502X 17 17Z L701X L702X || <!--Chipset-->i7 840QM to i7 2630QM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel HD 3000 with Nvidia 555, 525M, 540M, 555M or 435M 420M GF108M optimus || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111e || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit first models not Sandybridge but later are - 17.3-inch 1600 × 900 to 15.6-inch - not many working now |- | <!--Name-->E6420 E6520 ATG semi ruggized XFR || <!--Chipset-->sandy bridge i5 2520M 2540M or duo I7 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->set to Bios UEFI mode AHCI || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel HD 3000 with optional fermi Nvidia NVS 4200M GF119}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with IDT 92HD90 BXX codec but not HDMI codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6205}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.03 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit 15.6in - fan exhausts a lot of hot air when cpu taxed - VGA if Bios ATA set and Vesa only with Bios ACHI set - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron M5040 || <!--Chipset-->slow amd E450, later C-50 C50 or C-60 C60 with A50M chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->non efi sata in IDE mode but base plastic difficult to remove for access || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA AMD Radeon 6320, 6250 or 6290}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio IDT}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8105E VB 10/100}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros AR9285 no space for swap}} || <!--Test Distro-->icaros 2.1.1 and AROS USB 1.6 || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit 15INCH 1388 X 768 - f2 bios setup, f12 boot order - under removable keyboard via 4 top spring loaded catches is 1 ddr3l sodimm max 8gb and wifi - |- | Latitude e6230 E6330 E6430 || i3 3320M 3350M 2.8 GHz i5 3360M i7 3520M || {{N/A}} || {{partial|non RAID mode}} || {{partial|Intel HD 4000 (VESA only)}} || {{no|HD Audio}} || {{partial|Intel USB 3.0 (USB 1.1 2.0 only)}} || {{No|Intel 82579LM Gigabit}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313}} || <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2014 09-27 || 2013 64bit Ivy Bridge - 12.5-inch 13.3-inch 14-inch screen - not great support, better under hosted - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 15 3521 5521 5721, Vostro 3555 || <!--Chipset-->i5 i7 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel HD 4000 or Radeon 8730M or 7670M || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC850 ?? || <!--USB-->USB 3.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E RTL8105E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros or Dell 1703 1704 1705}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.3 || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit AVX Panther Point Ivy Bridge Intel(R) 7 Series Mobile - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 15‑3541 15‑3542 P40F001 P40F002 || <!--Chipset-->AMD E1 2100 6010 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Partial|VESA 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{unk| }} || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit no AVX - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Inspiron 15 5565 5567 AMD versions || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9200u A9-9400 A12-9700P Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->Radeon R5 R8 GCN 3 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 1GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - there are i-intel versions - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Latitude 5495 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 2300U 2500U 2700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe and 2.5in || <!--Gfx-->Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek ALC3246 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14.0" FHD WVA 1080p (16:9) 220 nits or 14.0" HD (1366 x 768) - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 32gb - 19.5V 65W 90W - care needed with usbc charging - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 3505, Vostro 3515 || <!--Chipset-->athlon 300u, Ryzen 3250u (2c4t) 3450u 3500u 3700u (4c8t), Athlon Silver (2c2t) Gold (2c4t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for Vega 8, 10}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Realtek ALC3204, Cirrus Logic CS8409 (CS42L42 and SN005825)}} || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|RTL 8106E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8723DE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64-bit - 15.6inch - 2 ddr4 sodimm max 16G - avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 5485 2-in-1 || <!--Chipset-->athlon 300u, Ryzen 3250u (2c4t) 3450u 3500u 3700u (4c8t), Athlon Silver (2c2t) Gold (2c4t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for Vega 8, 10}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Realtek ALC3204}} || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8723DE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64-bit - 14inch - 2 ddr4 sodimm max 16G - avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Latitude 3500 3410 3510 5410 5510 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core i5 (8th Gen) 8265U, i5-10210U, CORE i5-10310U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{no|Intel UHD Graphics 620}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|Realtek ALC3204}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111H}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - Realtek LAN port for WD19/22 docks untested - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 5405 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 4500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->One M.2 2230/2280 nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek ALC3204 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14" 1080p - dell round ac - |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 5415, Inspiron 5515 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 5300U, Ryzen 5 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 14" or 15.6in - avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use or use dell round ac - replacing keyboard not easy - 1 ddr4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 3425, Vostro 3525, Vostro 5625 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 5425U, Ryzen 5 5625U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB4}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 14in 15.6" to 16" FHD 1080p - dell round ac or avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Inspiron 15 Model 3535, Inspiron 14 7435 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 7520U, AMD Ryzen 5 7530U, 7 7730U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{No| hdmi 1.4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with codec }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2024 64bit - 14.0" or 15.6" 1080p - dell round ac or usb-c charging - full sd card slot - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |} ====Fujitsu-Siemens==== [[#top|...to the top]] Order of build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Amilo Esprimo Lifebook </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu [http://www.labri.fr/perso/fleury/index.php?page=bug_transmeta FMV-Biblo Loox S73A (Japan P1100) LifeBook P1120 Biblo Loox T93C (Japan P2120) P2020] || <!--Chipset-->Transmeta Crusoe CPU TM5600 633MHz with Ali M1535 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->ATI Rage Mobility M with 4MB SDRAM || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 Ali M1535 + STAC9723 Codec}} || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 only || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1999 32bit 10" 1280 x 600 matte LCD - QuickPoint IV mouse - metal chassis with palm rest plastic - 15GB 2.5 inch drive and SR 8175 8X DVD-ROM drive - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook S7000 S7010 S7010D S2020 || <!--Chipset-->Pentium M 1.6 or 1.7GHz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - Intel 855}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|AC97 with STAC 9751T or 9767 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros, Broadcom or Intel 2200BG - FN,F10}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit 14.1 inch with minimal support |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook e8010 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Intel 855GM}} || <!--Audio-->AC97 STAC9767 or ALC203 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5705M}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3.1 || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit 15.1 inch |- | <!--Name-->Stylistic ST5000 ST5010 ST5011 ST5012 ST5020 ST5021 ST5022 || <!--Chipset-->1.0GHz P-M and later 1.1GHz on Intel 855GME || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 800 use VESA || <!--Audio-->Intel AC97 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5788 tg3 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200BG}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit charged via a proprietary port power connector 16V 3.75A with wacom serial pen interface - indoor Screen transmissive 10.1 and later 12.1 XGA TFT - |- | <!--Name-->Amilo Pro V2010 || <!--Chipset-->VIA CN400 PM880 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|S3 unichrome use VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|VIA AC97 VT8237 with codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Rhine 6102 6103 || <!--Wireless-->RaLink RT2500 || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit boot mount - unknown bootstrap error then crashes |- | <!--Name-->Amilo Li 1705 CN896 || <!--Chipset--> with VIA P4M900 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE}} || <!--Gfx-->ATi || <!--Audio-->{{No|VIA VT8237 HD Audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->VT82xx 62xx || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|VIA Rhine}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros G}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit random freezes |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> Esprimo Mobile V5535 Skt mPGA 478MN | <!--Chipset--> | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE and EIDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{maybe|IDE mode with SIS 5513}} | <!--Gfx--> {{maybe|SiS 771 / 671 (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|HD Audio SIS968 SIS966 SI7012 with ALC268 codec}} | <!--USB--> {{no|USB 1.1 and 2.0 issues}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|SiS 191 gigabit}} | <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros AR5001 mini pci express}} | <!--Test Distro-->aros one 1.5 usb | <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 20v barrel - f2 setup f12 multi boot - random freezing short time after booting - chipset SIS 671MX - |- | <!--Name-->Amilo SI 1520 1521p || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio Conexant codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Intel Pro 100}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.2 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit - Set Bios option ATA Control Mode to Compatible |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook S7020 S7020D || <!--Chipset--> Pentium M 740 1.73MHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 915 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC260 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5751M Gigabit || <!--Wireless-->Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG or Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Stylistic ST5030 ST5031 ST5032 || <!--Chipset-->1 to 1.2GHx Pentium M with 915GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 900 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Marvell || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit charged via a proprietary port power connector 6.0 x 4.4 mm round - 200 pin ddr2 ram |- | <!--Name-->Stylistic ST5110 ST5111 ST5112 || <!--Chipset-->945GM with 1.2GHz Core Duo and Core2 Duo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 900 || <!--Audio-->HD audio with STAC9228 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 ABG or optional atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 either 32 or 64 bit - charged via a proprietary port power connector 6.0 x 4.4 mm round - SigmaTel® touchscreen - |- | <!--Name-->E8110 S7110 E8210 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|945GM}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC262 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8055 Gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit Core Duo |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || CHIPSET || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook PH521 || <!--Chipset-->AMD E-350 E-450 1.65GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->HD 6310M 6320M || <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC269 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 802.11 bgn}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6 inch 1366x768 pixels - DDR3 1066MHz - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====HP Compaq==== [[#top|...to the top]] Build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Presario Pavilion Omnibook ProBook Armada Elitebook </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->1c00 series Compaq Presario [http://users.utu.fi/sjsepp/linuxcompaqarmada100s.html Armada 100S made by Mitac], 1247 || <!--Chipset-->K6-II with PE133 MVP-4 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA - Trident Blade3D AGP sp16953 || <!--Audio-->VIA ac'97 audio [rev20] with AD1881A codec || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|usual VIA issues [rev10]}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit 192MB max - PCcard Texas PC1211 no support - 1200 XL1 1200-XL1xx, XL101, XL103 XL105 XL106 XL109 XL110 XL111 XL116 XL118 XL119 XL125 |- | <!--Name-->1c01 series Armada 110, Evo N150 || <!--Chipset-->Intel with VIA PLE133 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - Trident Cyber Blade i1 chipset || <!--Audio-->VIA 686 rev20 82xxx 686a || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82557 Pro 100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit max 192mb sodimm 100Mhz 133Mhz ram memory - 1200-XL405A 12XL405A XL502A 12XL502A 1600XL |- | Armada M300 M700 E500 || 440BX || {{Yes| }} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|ATI Rage LT M1 Mobility (VESA only)}} || {{no|AC97 ESS Maestro 2E M2E ES1987 sound}} || {{yes|USB1.1 only}} || {{No|[http://perho.org/stuff/m300/index_en.html Intel PRO 100+ Mini PCI]}} || {{N/A}} || Aspire OS 2012, Nightly 30-01 2013 and 04-05 2013 || 1999 32bit - F10 bios options and Fn+F11 reset CMOS with 64mb ram already on board |- | <!--Name-->HP Omnibook XE3 || <!--Chipset-->Intel BX 600Mhz GC model 256mb or AMD GD 500Mhz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - S3 Inc. 86C270 294 Savage IX-MV (rev 11) || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1988 Allegro 1 (rev 12)}} || <!--USB-->Intel 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit no cardbus pcmcia support - no audio from Polk Audio Speakers - |- | <!--Name-->HP Omnibook XE3 || <!--Chipset-->82830 ICH3 P3-M 750MHz 800Mhz 900MHz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - CGC 830MG}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1988 Maestro 3i}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|only one 1.1 port}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|e100 82557}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A|}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.51 || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit Boots USB Stick via Plop boot floppy - Memory for GF 256-512mb, GS up 1GB |- | <!--Name-->TC1000 TC-1000 Tablet PC || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA NV11 [GeForce2 Go] (rev b2) || <!--Audio-->VIA AC97 Audio (rev 50) || <!--USB-->OHCI NEC USB 2.0 (rev 02) || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82551 QM (rev 10) || <!--Wireless-->Atmel at76c506 802.11b || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit Transmeta LongRun (rev 03) with VT82C686 - Texas Instruments TI PCI1520 PC card Cardbus |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq R3000 ZV5000 (Compal LA-1851) || <!--Chipset-->Nvidia nForce 3 with AMD CPU || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia NV17 [GeForce4 420 Go 32M] || <!--Audio-->Nvidia || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom or Realtek RTL8139 || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4303 BCM4306 or Atheros bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - HPs have a setting to automatically disable wireless if a wired connection is detected |- | <!--Name-->Compaq [http://www.walterswebsite.us/drivers.htm Presario 700 series] || <!--Chipset-->VT8363 VT8365 [Apollo Pro KT133 KM133] || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VT8636A (S3 Savage TwisterK) (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|VIA AC97 [rev50] with AD1886 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|VIA UHCI USB 1.1 [rev1a]}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RealTek RTL8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom BCM4306}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit poor consumer grade level construction - jbl audio pro speakers - no support for cardbus pcmcia TI PCI1410 - 700A EA LA UK US Z 701AP EA BR FR 701Z 702US 703US AP JP audio sp18895 Sp19472 |- |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | N400c || P3-M 82845 || {{yes|82801 CAM IDE U100}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Rage Mobility 128 (VESA only)}} || {{No|Maestro 3 allegro 1}} || {{yes|USB1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VM (KM)}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit Has no optical disc drive |- | N410c || P3-M 82845 || {{yes|82801 CAM IDE U100}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Radeon Mobility M7 LW 7500 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|Intel AC97 with AD1886 codec}} || {{yes|USB1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VM (KM)}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit Has no optical disc drive |- | Evo N600c || Pentium 4 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI Radeon Mobility M7 (VESA only)}} || {{No|ESS ES1968 Maestro 2}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2003 32bit |- | Evo N610c || Pentium 4 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI Radeon Mobility M7 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|Intel ICH AC97 with AD1886 codec}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || |- | N800c || P4 || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit P4M CPU can get very warm |- | <!--Name-->NX7010 || <!--Chipset-->Intel || <!--IDE-->{{yes|IDE}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|ATI mobility 7500 or 9000 Radeon 9200 64MB (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 ADI codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|uhci (1.1) and ehci (2.0)}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200b bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Preasrio V5000 (Compal LA-2771) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Sempron 3000+ or Turion ML with SB400 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - Ati RS480M Xpress 200}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 ATI with Conexant CX 20468 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8100 8101L 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|bcm4318 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2004 64bit single core machine V5001 V5002 V5002EA V5003 |- | <!--Name-->TC1100 TC-1100 Tablet PC || <!--Chipset-->855PM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia Geforce4 Go || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|BCM 4400}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros wlan W400 W500 or ? bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit |- | <!--Name-->NC6000 NC8000 NW8000 || <!--Chipset-->855PM with Pentium M 1.5 1.6 1.8GHz 2.0GHz || <!--IDE-->max 160 GB for NW 8000 || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Ati RV350 mobility 9600 M10 Fire GL T2 ISV use VESA 2D as no laptop display}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel AC97 with ADI codec playback only}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|2 ports}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM 5705M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|mini pci Atheros 5212 BG W400 W500 or Intel - all bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 based [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=41916&forum=47 works] - Firewire TI TSB43AB22/A - 8 pound 2.5 kg travel weight - an SD slot as well as two PC Card slots - 15-inch UXGA screen (1,600 x 1,200) or 15" SXGA+ (1400 x 1050) (4:3 ratio) |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Compaq NC6110 NX6110 NC6120 NC6220 NC4200 NC8200 TC4200 || <!--Chipset-->GMA 915GML || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D GMA 900}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 with ADI AD1981B playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|440x or BCM 5705M or 5751M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel IPW 2200 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5.2 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit Sonoma based - Wifi with Atheros AR5007eg if apply hacked bios RISKY else use USB one - (INVENTEC ASPEN UMA MV) (INVENTEC ASPEN DIS PV) - |- | <!--Name-->Compaq C500 CTO aka HP G7000 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 945GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with realtek ALC262 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom BCM 4311 bios locked || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->HP DV6000 || <!--Chipset-->945GMS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HD 91B || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel PRO 100 VE || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32 bit only - Mosfet FDS6679 common cause of shorts giving no power to the tip. To reset adapter, unplug from AC (mains) and wait 15-30 sec. Then plug in again - |- | Presario F700 series, HP G6000 f730us F750 F750us F755US F756NR F765em || AMD Turion Mono MK-36 2.0Ghz NForce 560m or Twin X2 TK-55 with nForce 610m MCP67 || {{N/A| }} || {{Yes|but needs special sata adapt bit and caddy}} || {{Yes|GF Go 7000m 2D and 3D 640x350 to 1280x800 - ball solder issues due to poor cooling}} || {{Maybe| }} || {{Maybe|uhci and ehci boots}} || {{No|Nvidia }} || {{Yes|Atheros AR5007 bios locked}} || Icaros 1.3.1 and Aros One 1.6 USB || 2006 64bit - f9 boot device f10 bios setup - random freezes after a minutes use means internal ventilation maintenance needed each year essential - No sd card and overall limited phoenix bios options - |- | <!--Name-->Presario v6604au v6608au V3500 || <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA MCP67M with AMD Athlon64 X2 TK 55 amd 1.8ghz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|SATA 150}} || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA GeForce Go 7150M 630i or C67 630M MCP67 || <!--Audio-->conexant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia or Realtek 10/100 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4311 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit Altec Lansing Stereo Speakers - ball solder issues - |- | <!--Name-->Compaq presario v6610 v6615eo v6620us || <!--Chipset-->Turion 64 X2 mobile TK-55 / 1.8 GHz to athlon 64x2 @ 2.4ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|SATA 150}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|geforce 7150 or 7300m 2d and 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AMD HD Audio with IDT codec stereo playback only}} || <!--USB-->3 OHCI EHCI || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3 - || <!--Comments-->2007 [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=40956&forum=48 works well] - 1 x ExpressCard/54 - SD Card slot - AO4407 test voltage of the Drain side (pins 5-8) with AC adapter and no battery, see 0 volts, connect the battery you should have 10-14v - |- | <!--Name-->v6630em v6642em || <!--Chipset-->nForce 630M with AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-58 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA GeForce 6150M or 7150M || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit 15.4 in 1280 x 800 ( WXGA ) - |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq NC6400 || <!--Chipset-->945GM Core Duo || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|GMA 950 2D issues and no 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio AD1981HD}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros || <!--Comments-->2007 - replaced with Atheros AR5007eg if apply hacked bios RISKY else use USB g - * 32bit Core Duo T2400 * 64bit Core 2 Duo T5600 T7600 |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq NV NC6400 || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo + 945PM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Radeon x1300M (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with ADI1981 low volume}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|BCM 5753M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 ABG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.4.2 || <!--Opinion-->2007 Harmon Kardon speakers |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq NC6320 || <!--Chipset-->945GM with * 32bit Core Duo 1.83GHz T2400 * 64bit Core2 Duo 1.83GHz T5600 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 950 2D with a little 3D tunnel 213}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD Audio with AD1981HD codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM 5788}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2 || <!--Comments-->2007 replaced with Atheros AR5007eg if applying hacked wifi bios RISKY!! else use USB - 14.1" or 15 inch XGA 1024x768 - noisy cpu fan for core2 - trackpad rhs acts as window scroller - |- | <!--Name-->HP NC4400 TC4400 Tablet || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo with 82945 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|bios F.07 limits to 100GB 120GB}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|2D and 3D 282 tunnel and gearbox 150}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ADI 1981HD codec via ear phones}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM 5753M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 or BCM 4306 - Whitelist BIOS F.0C needed but risky}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->2008 64 bit possible with Core2 - TI SD card reader non bootable - wacom serial digitiser pen not working - * 32bit 1.86GHz core duo * 64bit 2Ghz T7200, 2.16Ghz Core 2 Duo T7600 2.33GHz |- | <!--Name-->HP Pavilion DV2000 CTO || <!--Chipset-->945GMS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950, X3100, Nvidia 8400M || <!--Audio-->HD Audio Conexant CX 20549 Venice || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia MCP51 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM 4311 or Intel 3945 4965 ABG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 Atheros AR5007eg if apply hacked bios RISKY |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Presario C700 || <!--Chipset-->GMA960 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->X3100 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139 || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros AR5007 AR5001 AR242x}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 |- | <!--Name-->Compaq 2510p 6510b 6710b 6910b || <!--Chipset-->GMA 965GM GL960 || <!--IDE-->{{yes| || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|X3100 some 2d but slow software 3d only}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio ADI AD1981 HD low volume on head phones}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82566 or Broadcom BCM 5787M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945ABG or 4965ABG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aspire OS Xenon 2014 || <!--Comments-->2008 no sd card boot support - F9 to choose boot option - [http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/7681-This-is-no-request-thread!-HP-COMPAQ-bioses-how-to-modify-the-bios/page111?p=333358#post333358 whitelist removal (risky) bios block for wifi card swap] |- | <!--Name-->CQ40 CQ41 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BC4310 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Presario CQ35 CQ36 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4312 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 Compal LA-4743P - |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq CQ42 CQ43 CQ45 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Coxenant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8191SE, Realtek 8188CE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 (Quanta AX1) |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Presario CQ50 CQ56 || <!--Chipset-->Nvidia MCP78S || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Geforce 8200M || <!--Audio-->nVidia HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->nvidia MCP77 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR928X bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 [http://donovan6000.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/insyde-bios-modding-wifi-and-wwan-whitelists.html bios modding risky] MCP72XE MCP72P MCP78U MCP78S |- | <!--Name-->HP Pavilion dv4 dv4z(AMD), dv5 (dv5z AMD), dv7 (dv7z AMD) || <!--Chipset-->QL-60, QL-62 (AMD Turion 64 X2) RM-70, RM-72, ZM-80, ZM-84, (AMD Turion II) M520 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->HD 3200 3450 4530 4550 4650 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit - 14.1" dv4, dv5 features a 15.4" and the HP Pavilion dv7 a 17" display |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->CQ57z || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD E-300 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA ATi HD 6310 wrestler}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101 RTL8102 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RaLink RT5390}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->HP CQ58z 103SA E5K15EA || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD Dual-Core E1-1500 APU with A68M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Radeon HD 7310}} || <!--Audio-->Realtek idt codec || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 10/100 BASE-T}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 39.6 cm (15.6") HD BrightView LED-backlit (1366 x 768) |- | <!--Name-->HP 635 DM1 || <!--Chipset-->Slow E-300, E-450 later E2-1800 on SB7x0 SB8x0 SB9x0 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->ATI non efi SATA AHCI - IDE mode || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA 2D - AMD HD6310, 6320 to HD7340}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ALC270A GR but not Wrestler HDMI Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 driver covers Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 14" 1366 x 768 - f9 f10 - external battery - 2 stacked ddr3l sodimm slots max 16Gb under one base plate - removable keyboard - |- | <!--Name-->HP G6 2000-2b10NR 2000-2d10SX 2000-2d80NR || <!--Chipset-->E1-2000 E2-3000M on A50M (soldered) A4-3305A on A60M (socket) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Radeon 6320, 6620G, 6520G, 6480G, 6380G}} || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 100 1000 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 39.6-cm (15.6-in) HD LED BrightView (1366×768) - 1 or 2 ddr3l max 8G - 19VDC 3.42A Max 65W Tip 7.4mm x 5.0mm - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 6465B || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-3310MX or A6-3410MX with A60M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD 6480G or 6520G}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|IDT 92HD81B1X}} || <!--USB--> USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel AC 6205 or broadcom 4313 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 13-inch or 14-inch runs hot - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 8470p 8570p || <!--Chipset-->Quad i7-3840QM to i7-3610QM, Dual i7-3520M to i5-3210M, Core i3-3130M to i3-2370M on Mobile Intel QM77 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|set the bios boot options to not fastboot and drive mode IDE rather than AHCI }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d for HD4000 with some having switchable Radeon M2000 or 7570M}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio for IDT codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82579LM }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel, Broadcom, Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro-->64 bit boots from CD* if safe mode 2 is used, although it is possible to remove the 'nodma' and 'debug' entries and boot || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit with SSE4.1 and AVX - 14in 1600 x 900 to 1366 x 768 - 2 DDR3L sodimm slots max 16Gb - TPM 1.2 - dual boot 32/64 bit is working fine - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 6475b, Probook 4445s 4545s, HP Pavilion 15-b115sa, [https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c04015674#AbT6 HP mt41 Mobile Thin Client PC] || <!--Chipset-->AMD A4 4300M, A6 4400M 4455M or A8 4500M with AMD A70M A76M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 7420 7520G 7640G 7660G}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with idt or realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek RTL8151FH-CG}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6205 or Broadcom BCM 43228 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6-inch - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 455 G1 F2P93UT#ABA, 645 G1, Envy 15-j151ea G7V80EA, Envy m6-1310sa (E4R01EA#ABU) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Quad A4-4300M A8-4500M A10-4600M A4-5150M A6-5350M 2.9Ghz A10-5750M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 7420G 7520G 7640G 7660G 8350G 8450G or 8550G, 8650G, 8750G }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio IDT 92HD91 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 14in and 15in 1366 x 768 - external battery - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - 19.5v / 4.62A psu runs hot - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 245 G4, 255 G1, 255 G2, 455 G2, 255 G3, 455 G3, 255 G4 80CB, 255 G5 82F6, 355 G2, HP Pavilion 15-p038na 15-g092sa 15-p091sa 15-G094S 15-p144na 15-p142na, 15-Af156sa || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD A4-5000 A6-5200, E2-6110, E1-6010 E2-2000, E1-2100 E2-3800, A4-6210 A6-6310 A8-6410, E2-7110, A6-7310 A8-7410 APU || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata some with cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R2 R4 R5}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC3201-GR || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8102E or Atheros 1GbE || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros AR9565}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit most have SSE4 AVX but E2-2000 does not - 15.6-inch (1366 x 768) - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - small 31Whr or 41Whr external battery covers 240 G4, 245 G4, 250 G4, 255 G4, 256 G4, 14G, 15G - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 645 g2, Probook 445 G2, Probook 245 G2 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-8600 A8-8700 a10- || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Radeon R5 R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel I219V 100/1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel or Qualcomm Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 14in and 15.6-inch HD (1366 x 768) or FHD 1080p - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots max 16GB - internal battery - hp ac psu tip - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 725 G2, 745 G2, 755 G2 || <!--Chipset-->Amd Quad A6-7050B A8-7150B 1.9GHz A10-7350B || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA on AMD R4 R5 Radeon R6 with DP and vga}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD audio with IDT 92HD91}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 PCIe GBE || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom or Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 12.5-inch, 14" or 15.6in (all 1366 x 768) - 19.5V 65w 45W AC adapter - internal pull up tab battery under base which slides off - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - keyboard swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->HP Probook 455 G3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-8700P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Radeon R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->1GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 725 G3, 745 G3, 755 G3, 725 G4, 745 G4, 755 G4, HP mt43 || <!--Chipset-->Amd A8-8600B, A10-8700B, A12-8800B to Quad A8 Pro 9600B to A10 9800 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA on AMD R5 R6 R7 with DP and vga but screen is low res, dull colours, and blurry}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD audio with IDT codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 5762 PCIe GBE}} || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8723BE-VB || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - 12.5-inch (1366 x 768) to 14" and 15.6in - 2 sodimm ddr3 - 19.5V 45W AC slim 4.5mm hp adapter - randomly shuts down and the noisy fans constantly on - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 645 G3, 655 G3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD 8th Gen A10-8730B, A8-9600B (4c4t) A6-8530B (2c2t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for AMD R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111HSH || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel or Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->HP Probook 455 G4, Probook 455 G5, || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-9600P APU, A9-9410, A6-9210 APU || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R4, R5 or R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 1GbE || <!--Wireless-->realtek or intel Wireless-AC 7265 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit 15.6in 1366 x 768 - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 645 G6, 255 G6, 255 G7 - 31Whr external battery covers HP all G6 and HP 14-BS, HP 14-BW, HP 15-BS || <!--Chipset-->AMD E2-9000e, A9-9420, 9220P, 9125 (all 2c) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata 2.5in and M.2, no cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for R2 R3 R4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RTL8188CTV, RTL8821CE or Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 3168}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - 19V 65W - DDR4 slot max 8Gb - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ProBook 245 g8 || <!--Chipset-->Range all dual cores - AMD A6-9225 APU, AMD A4-9125 APU, AMD PRO A6-8350B APU, AMD PRO A4-5350B APU || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R4 R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - many variants - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Pavilion 15z bw0xxx, 15-bw024na 15-ba506na, 15-bw060na 15-DB0521SA, HP Envy x360 15-ar052sa 2 in 1, || <!--Chipset-->AMD A9-9420 2c 2t, A10-9620p 4c4t 9700p 7th Gen Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R5 GCN 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 15.6in 768p or 1080p - internal battery - 19.5V 2.31A hp plug - 1 DDR4-1866 SDRAM sodimm slot - keyboard swap problematic - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteBook 725 G5, 735 G5, 745 G5, 755 G5, Probook 455 G6, 255 G7 7DE73EA || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 2200U 2300U (2c t), R5 2500U, R7 2700U (4c8t) Raven Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 Sata or NVMe and/or 2.5in sata if detachable ribbon cable present, no cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for AMD Vega 3, 6, or 8}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ALC236 0x10ec0236 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek or rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8821CE, 8822BE or Intel AC 8265 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - 12.5 to 15.6in up to 1080p - internal battery - 1 on smaller laptops or 2 ddr4 sodimm slots on larger laptops max 16Gb - usb-c charging care needed - keyboard swap problematic - esc bios setup f9 boot order - |- | <!--Name-->HP Envy x360 15-bq150sa, Envy x360 covertible 13 13-ag0xxx HP Envy x360 15-cp0xxx Ryzen 2500u || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 and Sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ?, ?, ALC295 0x10ec0295 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|realtek, none on 13in}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 13 or 15.6in 1080p - hp barrel or usb-c on 13in - ddr4 - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP 14-cm, 15-bw0, HP 15-db0043na, HP 15-db0996na, HP 15-db0997na, 17-ca0007na, 17-ca1, ProBook 645 G4 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 2200U (2c 4t) 2500U (4c 8t) with AMD Carrizo FCH 51 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 and 1 2.5in on some larger models || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R5 and later Vega 3 or 7}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Realtek ALC3227 and ATI HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|USB3 USB boot drive stuck on kitty's eyes}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RTL 8723DE 8821 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 USB || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit 2kg - screen is dim 14in, 15.6in or 17.3" 768p, later 1080p - 65W 19.5V ac adapter - internal 3-cell 41 Wh Li-ion battery does not last long - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - no DVD-Writer - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->[https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c06955717 ProBook 245 g8], Probook 445R G6, 455R G6, HP 255 G7 7DC73EA 2D200EA, HP14-dk0599sa, pavilion 15-cw1511na 15-cw1507sa || <!--Chipset-->Range mostly dual cores - AMD Athlon Gold 3150U (2c 2t), Silver 3050U APU (2c 2t), Pro 3145U APU to 3200U (2c 4t) and 3500U (4c 8t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 NVMe 2280 but usually no 2.5in mountings, no cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3, 6 or 8 with up to 2gb ram taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with realtek ALC236 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 but no usb-c}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE RTL8111HSH || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek 8822BE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in / 15.6in dim panel 768p or 1080p - one heatpipe for cpu - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 16gb - 65 W Smart AC adapter, right angle, 4.5 mm or usb-c - keyboard swap problematic - cd-rw dvd-rw - plastic build - |- | <!--Name-->Elitebook 735 G6 5VA23AV, Elitebook 745 G6, 255 g8 || <!--Chipset-->AMD® Ryzen™ 5-3500U Ryzen 3-3300U AMD Ryzen 3-3250U AMD Athlon® Gold 3150U AMD Athlon Silver 3050U AMD 3020e || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|m.2 2280 nvme in legacy - hp sure start and secure boot disabled but still issues with gpt installs}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Vega 8, 5 or 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 6.34 ahi with realtek codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 type-A port boots stick partially to kitty eyes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169 realtek RTL8111E or 8111H}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|realtek or intel}} || <!--Test Distro-->{{No|Icaros 2.3 onto USB and AROS One 1.8 and 2.0 USB}} || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 1366x768 to 1920x1080 - 2 3200MHz DDR4 sodimms - 19.5V 2.31A or 20V 2.25 45W 4.5X3.0MM hp - esc bios setup, f9 boot device select - low travel keyboard - poor battery life - plastic hooked base with retained screws - elan touchpad? - |- | <!--Name-->Envy x360 13 laptop 13-ay0008na and 13 and 15.6' 2 in 1 convertible || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R5 4500U with carrizo FCH51 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega 6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel or Realtek wifi 6 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit 13.3in or 15.6in IPS 1080p - ram soldered - touch pen not supplied - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 445 G7, 455 G7 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 4300U 5 4500U 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 sata and 1 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with realtek alc236 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl169 realtek rtl8111ep || <!--Wireless-->{{No|realtek RTL8822CE or intel AC 9260 or Wi-Fi 6 AX200}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14 inch 768p or 1080p - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - smart 45w 65w hp or usb-c charging avoid damage - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteBook 745 G7, 845 G7, HP 15-EH0006NA || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 4300U, 5 4500U, PRO 4650U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->SSD M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Radeon Vega 8}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - Bang & Olufsen speakers - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 255 G8, HP 245 G9 Laptop || <!--Chipset-->AMD RYZEN 3 5425U, 5 5500U 5625U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega 6 or 8 hdmi 1.4B}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 1GBe}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8822CE or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 14" to 15.6in 1366 x 768 to 1080p poor gamut - 45 or 65w hp psu - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 16GB - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteBook 645 g7, 835 G8, 845 g8, HP ENVY x360 13 15 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 5650U, 7 5800U, R7 Pro 5850U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD Radeon}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 1Gbe on 645 only}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 13.3" or 14" 1080p - poor screens low nits and srgb score - 845 gets hot ue to poor cooling - slim round hp ac - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP Dev One, HP ProBook 455 G8 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, R7 5850U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 15.6" 1080p - 2 internal sodimm slots - hp barrel charging - |- | <!--Name-->HP probook 635 Aero G8 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 5600U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2921 64bit - 14in 1080p - 2 ddr4 slots - ec chip nuvoton NPCX797HA1B - bios winbond 250256JYEN - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 845 g9 || <!--Chipset-->aMD 6000 series 6850u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 680m}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB4 thunderbolt type}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Qualcomm Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit aluminum case - 14in 1080p to 2140p 16:10 poor screen again - 2 internal ddr5 sodimm slots - usb-c ac charging avoid any knocks - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 445 G10, 455 G10 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 7530U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no| }} || <!--USB-->{{no| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6in - hp round ac - |- | <!--Name-->HP ZBook Firefly 14" G11 Mobile Workstation, G11 QHD DreamColour Mobile Workstation || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen™ 7 8840HS, AMD Ryzen™ 9 8945HS || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2024 64bit - 35.6 cm (14") diagonal, WUXGA (1920 x 1200), IPS, anti-glare, 400 nits, 100% sRGB - 2 ddr5 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->HP ZBook Ultra G1a || <!--Chipset-->AMD AI Max Pro 390 12 Core, 395 16 Core || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD GPU || <!--Audio-->HDaudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - 14" Touch OLED 120Hz - 2 ddr 5 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->HP Envy 16" x360 (16-ad0007na) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen™ 7 8840HS, || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - 16GB, Touchscreen - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====IBM/Lenovo==== [[#top|...to the top]] Build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > iSeries Edge Ideapad Thinkpad - good cases and construction but electronic internals same as anyone else </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad 390X 390E (2626) || <!--Chipset-->Neo Magic MM2200 with C400 P2-266 to P3 500MHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA || <!--Audio-->{{No|256AV or ESS Solo-1}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad 600x || <!--Chipset-->Intel 440BX || <!--IDE-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Neomagic NM2360 MagicMedia 256ZX}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Crystal CS4297A codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3.1 || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit a little support - earlier 600 and 600e were Pentium 2 based |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X20 (2662-32U) X21 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 440 BX ZX DX || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 with Cirrus Logic Crystal cs4281}} || <!--USB-->1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->no mini pci intel e100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit |- | Thinkpad T20 (2647) T21 (26) T22 || 440BX || {{Maybe| }} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|Savage IX-MV (VESA only)}} || {{no|Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/ 24/30}} || {{yes|USB 1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2002 32bit |- | <!--Name-->A21e (2628, 2655) A22e || <!--Chipset-->440MX || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Ati rage mobility || <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 Cs4299 CS4229}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->intel e100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 |- | Thinkpad T23 (2647) || i810 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|S3 Super Savage IX/C SDR (VESA only)}} || {{maybe|AC'97 CS4299}} || {{yes|USB 1.1}} || {{yes|Intel ICH3 PRO 100 VE}} || {{no|Realtek RTL8180L others with bios hacking risky}} || || 2003 32bit with some support |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X22 X23 X24 || <!--Chipset-->830 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATi Mobility M6 LY || <!--Audio-->Ac97 CS4299 || <!--USB-->2 x 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->Intel Pro 100 || <!--Wireless-->Actiontec Harris Semi Intersil Prism 2.5 (X23 and X24 only) || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit with slice Ultrabase X2 - |- | <!--Name-->A30 A30p || <!--Chipset-->830 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Ati Radeon M6 || <!--Audio-->AC97 CS 4299 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel Pro 100 ve || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->A31 A31p R31 R32 T30 || <!--Chipset-->830 || <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Gfx-->Ati Radeon 7500 or FireGL || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 Intel with AD1881A codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes| Intel Pro 100 ve}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->[https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Android-Ecosystem-Developers/AROS-An-operation-system-inside-Android/td-p/1441741 Icaros 1.5.2] || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit Also tested with Icaros 2.0.3. |- | Thinkpad X30 (2673) X31 (2884-xx2) X31t || i830 || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA only Radeon M6 Mobility}} || {{yes|AC97 - AD1981B codec}} || {{yes|USB 1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{no|Cisco Aironet or Intel 2915 but atheros with bios hacking}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2004 32bit sound bit distorted |- | <!--Name-->R50e R51 || <!--Chipset-->855M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel 855M use VESA}} || <!--Audio-->intel AC97 with AD1981B codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Intel 100 VE}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - |- | IBM Thinkpad T40 (2373) T41 T41p (2379) T42 T42p T43 T43p || Intel 8xx || {{partial|PIO}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI mobility 7500 9000 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97 playback}} || {{yes|uhci 1.1 and ehci 2.0}} || {{no|e1000}} || {{Maybe|Intel 2200bg bios locked but possible AR5BMB-44 AR5212 FRU 39T0081 mini PCI}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2004 32bit 16v IBM plug - Centrino Needs ATA=nodma option - issues with the inner chip of the SMT BGA graphics chip |- | Thinkpad X32 || i855 || {{yes|40, 60 or 80GB 2.5" PATA HDD}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA only ATI Mobility Radeon 7000 with 16MB}} || {{maybe| Intel AC'97 Audio with a AD1981B codec}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Intel 1000}} || {{no|Intel 2200 but atheros with bios hacking}} || Icaros 2.1 || 2004 32bit - 12.1" TFT display with 1024x768 resolution; 256 or 512MB PC2700 memory standard (2GB max) |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X40 X40t by Quanta || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel 800 (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel e1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel but most atheros with bios hacking - difficult though}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit last IBM design |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X41 (IBM) MT 1864 1865 2525 2526 2527 2528 x41t (Lenovo) MT 1866 1867 || <!--Chipset-->Intel with single core 1.5 1.6 and tablet 1.2GHz || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 915GML 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751M tg3}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel or MiniPCI Wi-Fi Atheros AR5BMB FRU 39T0081 but ordinary atheros 54meg needs risky bios hacking}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit - amongst first Lenovo design |- | <!--Name-->R52 (most 18xx) || <!--Chipset-->Intel 915 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 915GML 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->R52 1846, 1847, 1848, 1849, 1850, 1870 || <!--Chipset-->ATi 200m || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|ATI}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751M tg3}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad T60 T60P * 64bit - 6 or 8 is 16:10 on T60/p, eg. 8742-CTO 15.4" * 32bit - 1 and 2 are 14", 15" 4:3, like 2007-YM3 or 1952-CTO || <!--Chipset-->*any* T60/p will take a Core 2 Duo CPU with newer BIOS || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA (2D) with "p" graphics card (ATi V5200 or V5250) || <!--Audio-->{{no|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || {{no|e1000e 82573L}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel ipw3945 ABG but atheros with Middleton's or Zender BIOS hacking risky}} || Icaros 1.4 || <!--Comments-->2006 - |- | <!--Name-->X60 x60s x60t tablet || <!--Chipset-->945GMS 940GML || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|AD1981 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 3945 ABG or fru 39T5578 Atheros 5K AR5BXB6 ar5007eg with bios hacking}} || <!--Comments-->Icaros 1.4 || 2006 32bit - perhaps needs a zendered bios update but risky |- | <!--Name-->R60 R60e || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->intel 950 with optional radeon x1300 x1400 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with 1981HD codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel or Broadcom || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel 3945 or atheros fru 39T5578 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit |- | Thinkpad T61 T61p without Middleton's or Zender BIOS || Core 2 Duo CPU T7300 T8300 || {{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || Intel GMA (2D), NVS 140m or Quadro FX 570M () || {{no|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || {{no|e1000e 82573L}} || {{No|Intel but atheros with bios hacking risky}} || Icaros 1.6 || 2007 64bit |- | <!--Name-->X61 x61s X61T Tablet || <!--Chipset-->i965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 3100 (2D) slow 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|AD1984 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->82566DM || <!--Wireless-->{{maybe|Atheros AR5212 (some revisions use Intel WLAN runs very hot) bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || 2007 64bit possible <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit ultrabook running very hot - |- | <!--Name-->R61 R61i || <!--Chipset-->Intel 965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->intel 965 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with conexant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5787M || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit |- | Lenovo 3000 N200 || <!--Chipset-->Santa Rosa || {{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe| }} || {{yes|Geforce 7300 (2D)}} || {{yes|ALC262 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || {{no|Broadcom}} || {{no|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2007 64bit 3D graphics parts are supported but buggy. |- | Lenovo 3000 N200 / V200 || GM965 ICH9-M with Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo T5450 || {{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe| }} || {{yes|X3100 (2D)}} || {{Maybe|HD Audio ALC269VB or CX20549}} || {{yes| }} || {{no|BCM5906M}} || {{no|Intel 3965 / 4965AGN bios locked}} || Icaros 1.4.1 2.1 || 2007 64bits of laptop works |- | <!--Name-->X300 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo Merom SL7100 1.2GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1.8 inch || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel X3100}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio AD1984A || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 4965 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit 13.3" TFT 1440x900 (WXGA+) with LED backlight |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad Edge 11″ AMD K325 || <!--Chipset-->M880G || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA for ATI HD4200}} || <!--Audio-->{{{{maybe|}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 8111}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|8192CE (Realtek 8176) bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 little support |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X301 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo Penryn SU9400 Su9600 with GM45 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1.8 inch micro SATA (uSATA) || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel X4500}} || <!--Audio-->AD1984A || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 5xxx WiFi link 5100, 5150, 5300 and 5350 (WiMAX) bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 WXGA+ (1440×900) LED backlight display - 2774 or 4057 Alps and 2776 Synaptics touchpad - optical bay interface is Legacy IDE (PATA) - Addonics ADMS18SA, Lycom ST-170m |- | <!--Name-->X100e || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon Neo Single-Core (MV-40) and dual cores || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|2.5in tray in ide mode in bios}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa ATI HD3200}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with CX20582 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8111}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek r8192se bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 11.6in 1366 x 768 - 20v 65W round barrel - enter f1 setup f11 diagnostics f12 boot list - runs very warm - |- | <!--Name-->SL400 SL500 || Intel || {{N/A}} || {{Yes|IDE mode}} || {{Maybe|Nvidia 9400M}} || {{Maybe|ALC269}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{Maybe|RTL8169}} || {{Maybe| bios locked}} || || |- | <!--Name-->SL410 SL510 || 965 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE mode}} || {{maybe|Intel GMA X4500M (some 2D)}} || {{yes|HD Audio with ALC269 codec - speaker and ear phones}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{yes|RTL8169}} || {{Maybe| bios locked}} || [http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=645774&postcount=28 Icaros 1.3] || 2009 64bit SL-410 |- | <!--Name-->T400 ODM Wistron || <!--Chipset-->i || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel 4500MHD works limited 2d no 3d - optional switchable Nvidia or ATi HD3470 untested}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with Codec CX20561 (T400)}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel e1000e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Wifi Link 5100 (AGN) half height card with FRU 43Y6493 or 5300 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 20v lenovo plug - non-free firmware required iwlwifi |- | <!--Name-->T400s || <!--Chipset-->i || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VSEA for Intel 4500MHD works limited 2d no 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with CX20585}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel e1000e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Wifi Link 5100 (AGN) half height card with FRU 43Y6493 or 5300 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit non-free firmware required iwlwifi |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo T500 T510 || <!--Chipset-->i || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA for switchable Intel / AMD HD 3640}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|Intel HD Audio with a CX20561 (t500) and CX20585 (T510) codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or Lenovo branded unit Atheros AR5007EG AR5BHB63 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit |- | <!--Name-->X200 ODM Wistron [http://itgen.blogspot.co.uk/2008/12/installing-arch-linux-on-lenovo.html X200s] and x200t tablet model without [http://fsfe.soup.io/post/590865884/the-unconventionals-blog-English-Flashing-Libreboot-on Risky flash of the Libreboot BIOS] || <!--Chipset-->GM45 GS45 with slow Celeron, SU or faster SL Core 2 Duos CPUs || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe||Intel GMA 4500 MHD 2D but slow software 3D tunnel 10 gearbox 8 tests}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel HD Audio with Conexant CX20561 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{{Yes|USB 2.0 USB SD card reads and writes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82567LM Gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel Pro 5100 5150 5300 5350 AGN due to whitelist prevention bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.1 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 12.1" CCFL (webcam version) or LED backlit (no webcam). no support for 54mm express cards or Authentec 2810 fingerprint reader - thinkpoint only no trackpad - thinklight - |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo T410 T410s T410si || <!--Chipset-->qm57 with i5 m || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use vesa Intel 5700MHD (Ironlake) core processor igp with optional Nvidia Quadro NVS 3100M}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio Conexant CX20585 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82577lm gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel n 6200 or Atheros AR9280 AR5BHB92 half size minipcie detected bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2 xmas || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit battery life much lower with Nvidia graphics version - no support firewire ricoh r5c832 - ricoh sd card - series 5 3400 |- | <!--Name-->X201 X201s x201t || <!--Chipset-->QM57 Core i3 370m, i5 M520 2.4GHz or i7 620LM 2.0GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|vesa 2d on Intel GMA HD}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel HD with [https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=94.0 Conexant 20585] codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2010 X201 arrandale power consumption limits battery life to 3-4 hours for 48Whr though to 6 on 72Whr - 12.5" WXGA |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->T420 type 4180 4236 t420s T520 4239 L520 || <!--Chipset-->i5 2540, 2520 or i7 2860QM 2620 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS but not AHCI}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 136 x 768 - Intel HD 3000 with optional NVS 4200M Nvidia optimus or Radeon HD 565v }} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio playback ear phones only with Conexant CX20672 codec - AHI 6.27}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO 1000 82579LM}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek 1x1, Intel Ultimate-N 6205 6250 2x2 6300 3x3 all bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2.2 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit add noacpi to grub boot options - screen 1600x900 or 1366x768 - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad W520 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 3000 with nvidia quadro 1000m 2000m}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel Hd with CX 20585 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82579 Lm}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6000s}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit optimus issues with Nvidia Intel hybrids unless bumblebee switching - 15.6" TFT display with 1366x768 (HD), 1600x900 (HD+) or 1920x1080 (FHD) resolution with LED backlight |- | <!--Name-->X220 x220t || <!--Chipset-->QM67 express, dual i5 2520M or i7 dual 2620M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS but not AHCI}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D 1024 x 768 for Intel HD Graphics 3000}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel HD playback with Conexant 20672 codec ear phones and speaker - AHI 6.27 6.34}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82579LM}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 Wi-Fi bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3, Aros One USB 1.6 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit possible - uses slimmer 7 mm storage sata devices - NEC USB 3.0 on i7's no support - unwanted trackpad gestures when palm rests on it - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots - external battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X120e, x121e Quanta FL8A DAFL8AMB8D0 Rev D || <!--Chipset-->Hudson M1 with slow AMD E350 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->yes || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA ATI 0x9802}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ATI SBx00 Azalia HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->USB 2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8169 RTL8111 || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom 0x0576 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit 11.6 inch screen - 1 inch think - chiclet keyboard |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad S205 G575 G585, Edge 11 E325 || <!--Chipset-->Slow E-350 later E-450 with A75 or AMD Athlon II Neo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA HD6310}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - removeable and plug in battery - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad S206 || <!--Chipset-->AMD E300 1.3GHZ Dual || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD Audio with CX20672 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|3.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom 10/100 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6" and integrated battery - Conexant® |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo x130e or x131e edu || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD E-300 or E-450 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon HD 6310 or 6320 }} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio Realtek ALC269VC / ALC3202 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|USB 30 and USB 20}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111 RTL8168B || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8188CE or Broadcom BCM43228 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - rubber edged bumper for K12 education market - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad Edge E135 E335 || <!--Chipset-->amd dual E-300, E2-1800 or E2-2000 slow atom like A68M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|SATA 3.0Gb/s 2.5" wide 7mm high}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA radeon 6310 or 7340 vga or hdmi}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HDAudio with Realtek ALC3202 codec}} || <!--USB-->2 usb3, 1 powered usb2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 8111f}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek WLAN whitelist bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6 inch to 13.3in 1366x768 - Acrylonitrile-Butadiene-Styrene (ABS) plastic case - external battery - 20v 65w lenovo barrel ac - 2 ddr3 sodimm 8Gb max - |- | <!--Name-->x140e E145 || <!--Chipset-->E1 2500 dual or A4 5000 apu quad BGA769 (FT3) || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon 8260 or 8330}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Realtek ALC269VC aka ALC3202 codec}} || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111F or Broadcom || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8188CE 11b/g/n or FRU Intel version}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit 11.6" 1366x768, non-glare and Broadcom bluetooth - education student market rugged model - both CPUs soldered - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad Edge E525 E535 LENOVO IDEAPAD Z575 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-3420M A8-3500M later A8-4500M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD 6620G later 7640G}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Conexant codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|USB2 but not usb3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 Realtek 8111}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6in 1368 x 768 matt - 65W 20v lenovo round psu - thick desktop replacement - ThinkPad Edge E520 E520S E525 E530 E545 E535 E530C Laptop Keyboard swap - |- | <!--Name-->T430 t430i T530 || <!--Chipset-->ivy bridge i5 3320 3230m on Intel QM77 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 1366 x 768 for Intel HD 4000 with optional Nvidia 5400M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with Realtek ALC3202 aka ALC269VC codec playback ear head phones - HDA 6.27}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2 ports and usb2.0 devices thru usb 3.0 ports}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel e1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or Atheros AR9285 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit fan noise and chiclet keyboard, synaptics trackpad 06CB:CE2D 06CB:7F28 - HD+ 1600x900 or 768p - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad L430 L530 || <!--Chipset-->Intel HM series 7 chipset i5 3210M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 4000}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with Realtek ALC269VC codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8169 rtl810x || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 6205 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit alps trackpad - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad W530 || <!--Chipset-->Intel HM series 7 chipset i5 3210M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 4000 with Nvidia GK107GLM Quadro K2000M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with Realtek ALC3202 ALC269VC codec }} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82579LM || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6300 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - ricoh sdxc slot - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X230 x230t || <!--Chipset-->Intel QM67 express i5 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with ALC269 aka ALC3202}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|I}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - 12.2 in 1366 x 768 - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots - external battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad T440 t440s t440p T540 L440 L540 || <!--Chipset-->intel haswell 8 series Core i3 to i7 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA - Intel 4600 or Nvidia}} || <!--Audio-->Intel HD with Realtek ALC3232 alc269 codec or ALC292 || <!--USB-->2 usb 3.0 and 2 usb 2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel AC 7260 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 14 and 15" models with glitchy trackpad and no physical buttons - IPS options available - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components or 4 variants of key caps - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X240 x240t ultrabook TN (20AL0081GE), HD IPS display without touch (20AL007NGE) and touch (20AL0076GE) but all 65% sRGB || <!--Chipset-->haswell i7-4600U i5 4200U 4210U 4300U i3-4100U - two batteries, one internal 3cell 45N1110 (45N1111) or 45N1112 (FRU 45N1113) and external 3 / 6cell 45N1126 (FRU 45N1127) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in 7mm sata (torq t7), m.2 2242 in WWAN slot (m and b key NGFF Sata) || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for Intel 4400 for vga or mini-dp}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 0x8086 0x0a0c 0x9c20 with Realtek ALC3232 aka ALC292 0x10ec 0x0292}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel® 82577LM Gigabit (Hanksville) }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel 7260n I218-V or I218-LM bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 12.2in 1366 x 768 or 1080p - 1 ddr3l sodimm slot - no keyboard spill drainage and at least 2 variants of key caps - lenovo rectangle pwr ac - TPM 1.2 - Bluetooth 4.0 no support - large touchpad with integrated but no physical buttons - bottom panel loosening 8 retained screws - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad T450 T450s t450p T550 L550 || <!--Chipset-->Intel i5 4300U i3 5010U i5 5200U 5300U i7 5500U 5600U soldered || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 5500 5600 with optional nvidia 940M}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD Audio with ALC3232 codec Realtek ALC3232 0x10ec 0x0292}} || <!--USB-->{{no|3 USB 3.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Wireless AC 7265 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit 14" 1366 x 768, 1600 x 900 or IPS 1920x1080 - Broadwell - keyboard swap requires removal of all components and key cap versions - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad x250 x250t || <!--Chipset-->i3 5010U i5 5200U 5300U i7 5600U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|2.5in 7mm or m.2 2242 sata (m and b key)}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Realtek ALC3232 codec / Intel HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{no|up to 3 USB 3.0 partly boots from usb but stops waiting for usb}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel I218 extension port}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel AC 7265 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.0 USB || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - 1366 x 768, 1920 × 1080 12.5" screen - Fn and F1 for setup bios - F12 boot options - 1 ddr3l sodimm slot - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad E540 || <!--Chipset-->Intel || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2D for Intel gfx}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HDAudio with Conexant CX20751-21Z codec}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB2 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 8111gus}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel Wireless-N 7260 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 15.6in 1376 x 786 - plastic construction - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad Edge E545 * key cap swap with E440 E531 E540 L440 L450 T431S T440S T440P T540 * Keyboard swap L540 T540p W540 Edge E531 E540 W541 T550 W550S L560 P50S T560 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Socket FS1r2 A6-5350M (2c2t) or A8-4500M, A8-5550M, A10-5750M (4c4t) with A76M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in 9.5mm - enter UEFI bios with Enter or ESC, config section, sata into compatibility and security, secure boot disabled - mini sata DVD burner PLSD DS8A9SH || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD 7640G, 8450G, 8550G, 8650G ?? Islands}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|VOID 6.3 for HDAudio 8086:1c20 Conexant CX20590 Analog 0x14f1 0x506e, CX20671 codec 0x14f1 0x5069, or audio over Trinity HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|boots pen drives from yellow usb port but not from blue USB3 ones}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 1GbE 8111F}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM43142 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.3 USB with noacpi added to end of grub2 boot line but no further boot for usb3 socket/stick || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit SSE 4.1 and AVX - 15.6in 1366 x 768 matt - 20v 65w 90w round lenovo plug psu - 2 DDR3 SODIMM slots stacked up to 16GB Max - external 6 Cell Li-Ion Battery 48Wh - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery in wifi area jp1202 - amd v(tm) virtualization not working - |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo G505s || <!--Chipset-->AMD A8 5550M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD 8550M islands chipset}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Qualcomm Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit 15.6" - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad Flex 15D 20334 || <!--Chipset-->AMD a6 5200, e1 2100, || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Radeon R3 southern islands chipset}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 8169 rtl810x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k whitelist for wifi swap}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo B50-45, G50-45 80E3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A8-6410 (2c), A6-6400 (2c), AMD A8 (4c), AMD A4-6300 (2c), AMD E2-6200 (2c), AMD E1-6050 (2c) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|I}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit 15.6" 1366 x 768 - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad E455 E555 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-7000 A8-7100 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R5 }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Conexant® CX20751 codec 0x14f1 0x510f}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111GUS || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8723BE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - 14 768p or up to 15.6in 1080p - 2 DDR3L slots max 16G - no TPM - keyboard swap but Lenovo E550 E550C E555 E560 E560C E565 range has at least 2 different key cap variants - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Z40-75 Z50-75 || <!--Chipset-->A10-7300 4c 4t || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R6 6CUs}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - heavy - external battery - slim box lenovo ac - dvdrw - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad E465 E565 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-8500P 8600P A8-8700P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Conexant® CX11852 codec 0x14f1 0x5}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6" 1366 x 768 to 1080p IPS - Polycarbonate, ABS Plastic shell casing - internal battery - |- |<!--Name-->AMD platform codes *Beema: ABM, *Carizzo-L: ACL, *Carizzo: ACZ, *Godavari: AGR, *Kaveri: AKV, *Stoney Ridge: ASR, *Stoney Ridge: AST (NB), || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> *Summit Ridge: ASU, *Bristol Ridge-L: ABL, *Bristol Ridge: ABR, *Raven Ridge: ARR, *Picasso: API |- | <!--Name-->LENOVO IDEAPAD 500-15ACZ || <!--Chipset-->AMD 4c A10-8700P A8-8600P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5 M.2 || <!--Gfx-->VESA for Radeon R5 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek Atheros Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bits - 15.6" 768p to 1080p - 2 ddr3l slots max 16gb - 45w rectangle psu - |- | <!--Name-->lenovo yoga 510-14ast 8059, || <!--Chipset-->A6-9210 A9-9410 and Intel Xeon E3-1200 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 45w 20v round barrel 4.0 * 1.7mm fits Yoga 310 510 520 710 - Harman Audio - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->V110-14AST V110-15AST V110 (15") || <!--Chipset-->AMD E1-9000, A6-9210 to A9-9410 all dual core || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 2.5in sata most 7mm some 9.5mm || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD R2, R3, R5 or R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in mostly 768p to 1080p 220 nits - 20v 45W or 65W lenovo slim rectangle end ac - keyboard swap hard - integrated 24WHr battery - 4gb ddr4 ram soldered and 1 2133Mhz ddr4 slot max 12Gb - abs plastic - |- |<!--Name--> *ThinkPad A275 12in (1 ddr4 1866MHz sodimm) *Thinkpad A475 14in (2 ddr4 1866MHz sodimm) - both internal (main) and external (secondary) battery || <!--Chipset-->A10-8730B A10-9700B 2.500Ghz later A12-8830B A12-9800B all 4c4t (AVX2 on 9000s) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|Sata3 port for 7mm 2.5in ssd hdd with mbr and not gpt, setup in other machines - secure boot disabled, bios startup boot set to legacy then uefi - WWAN slot cannot use M.2 2242 sata with M and B key}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD R5 or R7}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 0x1022, 0x157a 6.34 ahi with ALC3268 codec 0x10ec, 0x0298 aka ALC298 - VOID even with QUERY / QUERYD added}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 starts to boot pendrives but stops, usb mouse not detected}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 RTL8111EPV, shell pinging google.com works but apps like OWB start when copied to RAM: and run from there}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8822BE WLAN whitelist locked cannot swap}} || <!--Test Distro-->{{No|AROSOne USB 1.8 with noacpi noapic noioapic added to grub2 boot line then hanging on bootable media (kitty eyes)}} || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit 12 or 14in 1366 x 768 poor screen - 45W or 65w lenovo rectangle ac adapter - F1 enter bios and F12 boot order - 6 retained screws and snap on base - keyboard swap not easy - 2100 error message no solution except using only efi/gpt bios option - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E475 E575 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9500b A10-9600P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Conexant CX11852 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek R8111GUS || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 15.6" 1366 x 768 to 1080p IPS - Polycarbonate, ABS Plastic shell casing - internal battery - two DDR4 SO-DIMM sockets clocks down with 1866MHz DDR4 memory controller - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Ideapad S145-14AST S145-15AST || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9225, A9-9425, A10-9600P 7th Gen, AMD A12-9720P Mobo 5B20P11110 NMB341 Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon 8670A 8670M 8690M GCN 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A|N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 or Realtek RTL8821CE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 14in or 15.6" 768p or 1080p - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Ideapad V145-14AST V145-15AST, 81mt, Ideapad 310, Ideapad 320-15ABR, Ideapad 330-14AST 330-15AST 330-17AST || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9225, A9-9425 (2c2t), A10-9600P 7th Gen, AMD A12-9720P Mobo 5B20P11110 NMB341 Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon 8670A 8670M 8690M GCN 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with ALC236 codec, }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|rtl8169 10/100 only}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 or Realtek RTL8821CE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 14in or 15.6" 768p or 1080p - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - 45w 6w slim ac adapter - keyboard swap problematic - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo V330-14ARR 81B1, Ideapad 330s 15ARR, || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R3 2200U, 2300U or R5 2500U Raven Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3, 6 or 8 up to 1Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|Realtek 1GbE but not on 330s}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14" 20mm thick 1.8kg - 20v 2.25a 45w ac round barrel - chiclet keyboard - 4Gb soldered and 1 ddr4 sodimm - TPM 2.0 in bios - battery internal about 30whr - 4GB soldered - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad Edge E485 E585 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R3 2300U R5 2500U R7 2700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme maybe 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Vega 3, 8 or 10}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with CX11852 codec }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 rtl8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in or 15.6in 768p or 1080p - USB-C 20V 2.25A 3.25A avoid knocking charging port as damages easily - 2 ddr4 sodimm slot max 2400Mhz 32GB - internal battery only - TPM 2.0 software - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad A285 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen PRO 3 2200U 5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata port and m.2 sata ngff port || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC ALC3287 codec aka ALC257 }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Mini-Ethernet/Docking}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Qualcomm - WLAN whitelist no more??}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 12.5in 1080p - avoid usb-c port being lifted/moved whilst in use as damages laptop easily - internal and external battery - soldered ram 8gb or 16gb - WWAN whitelist - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad A485 bios setting [https://github.com/PSPReverse/PSPTool AMD PSP Platform Security Processor Key] || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen PRO 5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata port and m.2 sata ngff port || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC ALC3287 codec aka ALC 257 }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUL}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Qualcomm - WLAN whitelist no more??}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in 768p, 1080p or 1440p - avoid usb-c port being lifted/moved whilst in use as damages laptop easily - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 32gb - internal and external battery - WWAN whitelist - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Yoga 530-14ARR 81H9 || <!--Chipset-->R5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in 1080p - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo V14-ADA, V15-ADA 82C700E4UK || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 3050U, 3150U, 3250U, Ryzen 5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1x 2.5" HDD + 1x M.2 SSD NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Qualcomm}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14 or 15.6in - internal battery - 4GB soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - keyboard swap problematic - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad E Edge E495 20NE, Edge E595, || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 3200U r5 3500U, R7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 nvme maybe 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Vega 3, 8 or 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with synaptic formerly conexant CX11880 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14in or 15.6in 768p or 1080p - ddr4 soldered with 1 dimm slot - USB-C charger issue was fixed with a BIOS update, if not the charger shorts the motherboard - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo v155-15api 81V5 V155 (15" AMD) budget all plastic build || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon 300U, Ryzen 3 3200U r5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 nvme and usually 2.5in 7mm sata - install on mbr not gpt 2.5in in another compatible machine - mini sata dvd/cd da-8aesh11b || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D 1920x1080, 1280x1024, 800x600 work for Vega 3 or 8 with up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken but hdmi 1.4b no output}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio add 0x1022, 0x15E3 with Realtek ALC257 codec 0x10ec, 0x0257 - no issues with 32bit}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 not detected with no usb-c ports}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS works well with 32bit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.8 USB 32bit and deadwoods native x64 iso with grub line ATA=32bit noacpi || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 768p or 1080p 200nits tn panel - 4Gb ddr4 2400MHz soldered with 1 dimm slot max 20Gb - round ac 20V 65W psu 4.0mm x 1.7mm - MS created a new protocol, HID over I2C so [https://askubuntu.com/questions/1033033/elantech-touchpad-does-not-work-i2c-hid elantech i2c-hid i2c PS2 hybrid trackpad] 04F3:3140 touchpad not functioning - internal sunwoda battery L18D3PF1 35Whr but also L18L3PF1 L18C3PF2 - Fn+F2 to enter bios and F12 boot order - no sd card slot - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad C340-13AP1, IdeaPad S340-14API C340-14API || <!--Chipset-->R3 3200U, R5 3500U, R7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3, 8, 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 13in convertible or 14" laptop - 4GB soldered - usb-c charging care needed - keyboard swap problematic - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo IdeaPad L340-15API 81LW001CUS L340-17API untested || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon 300U, Ryzen 3 3200U r5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 nvme and usually 2.5in sata - install on mbr not gpt 2.5in in another compatible machine - mini sata dvd/cd da-8aesh11b || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Vega 3 or 8 with up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken - hdmi 1.4b}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio add 0x1022, 0x15E3 with Realtek ALC236 0x10ec, 0x0236}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 not detected}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.8 USB || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 768p or 1080p 200nits - 4Gb ddr4 2400MHz soldered with 1 dimm slot max 20Gb - round ac 20V 65W psu 4.0mm x 1.7mm - elan trackpad not functioning - internal battery - Return or F1 to enter bios and F12 boot order - no sd card slot - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad S540-14API, Ideapad S145-14API, S145-15API || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3020e to 300U, 5 3500U, 7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme, some may have 1 2.5in space || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega 3, 8 or 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|3.1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|RTL8822BE AC (1×1)}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - keyboard swap problematic - sd card slot - no cd dvd - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot 2400Mhz - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad T295 T495 T495s X395 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 3300U, R5 Pro 3500U or R7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 NVMe up to 2280 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 6, 8 or 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111EPV not on slim T495s}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8822BE or Intel AC 9260}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14in 768p but mostly FHD 1080p 250 nits - internal battery - ram 8gb or 16gb 2400Mhz soldered with 1 ddr4 slot on T495 only - TPM 2.0 - usb-c charging avoid knock whilst in use - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 Gen2, E15 Gen 2 (AMD) 20T8, - lenovo has a mobile phone PC Diagnostic App for error/beep codes || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 4300U, 5 4500U, 7 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2 m.2 nvme, 1 2242 and 1 2280 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD Radeon up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 15.6in 1080p 220 nits - TPM 2.0 - usb-c charging of internal 45Whr battery - 4gb ddr4 3200Mhz soldered and 1 ddr4 sodimm slot max 20Gb - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkPad T14, Lenovo L14 Gen 1, L15 Gen 1, ThinkPad P14s Gen 1 (AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 4300u, 5 4500U, Ryzen 5 Pro 4650U, Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R5 }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111EPV (DASH models) or RTL8111HN}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - USB-C charger avoid moving whilst in use - 14" or 15" 1080p - keyboard swap problematic - 8gb or 16gb 3200MHz soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - sd card slot - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkPad X13 Gen1 AMD, || <!--Chipset-->AMD RYZEN 3 4450U, 5 4650U or 7 4750U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->One drive, up to 512GB M.2 2242 SSD or 1TB M.2 2280 SSD NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA Radeon up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{unk| but USB-C ports can fail}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Realtek RTL8111EPV, mini RJ-45 to RJ-45 via optional ThinkPad Ethernet Extension Adapter Gen 2}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek Wi-Fi 6 RTL8852AE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 13.3" HD 1366x768 to 1080p - USB-C port care needed as damages easily - Memory soldered to systemboard, no slots, dual-channel DDR4-3200 - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkBook 14 G2, 15 G2 Are ITL || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 4500u, 7 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->14in has 2 m.2 nvme but 15in has 1 nvme and might have 2.5in metal sata caddy || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in or 15in 1080p - usb-c charging powered - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot 3200mhz - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad 5 14ARE05 (81YM) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 3 4300U (4c4t), 5 4500u (6c6t) 4600U (6c12t), 7 4700u (8c16t) on AMD Promontory Bixby FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1x M.2 2242 slot and may have 1x M.2 2280 NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 6 hdmi up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel ax200 wifi 6}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit 14inch 768p or 1080p - round lenovo ac - 4gb, 8gb, or 16gb ddr4 3200Mhz ram soldered non upgradable - keyboard swap problematic - integrated battery - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->Ideapad Flex 5 81X2 || <!--Chipset-->AMD R5 4500u, R7 4800U, R3 5300 R5 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 NVMe ssd || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC? codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3.1 gen 1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|realtek ac wifi}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit abs plastic case 14in convertible 1080p touch low nits - 65w usb-c psu ac - possible wacom esr note taking pen supplied - ram soldered DDR4 - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkBook 14 G3, 15 G3 ACL || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 14in or 15in 1080p - usb-c charging powered - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 G3, E15 Gen 3 (AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 5300U 5500U 5650U 5700U 5800U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->up to 2 m.2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|realtek or intel }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - - usb-c charging issues lenovo has a mobile phone PC Diagnostic App for error/beep codes - keyboard swap problematic - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 3200Mhz sodimm slot - |- |<!--Name-->V15 G2 ALC 82KD || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 5300U, 5 5500U, 7 5700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme 2280 with some having 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H-CG}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 15.6" FHD 1080p - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - 65w round ac adaptor - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L15 Gen 2 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 5000 series AMD Ryzen 3 5400U (4c8t), 5 5600U, 5 5650U (6c12t), 7 PRO 5850U (8c16t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111EPV (DASH models) or RTL8111HN}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 15.6in 768p or 1080p - usb-c charging - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr4 3200Mhz sodimm slot - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 Gen 4, E15 Gen 4 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 3 5425u, 5 5625U, 7 5825u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 (14") or 2 (15") nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - usb-c charging - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 3200Mhz sodimm slot - L19M3PDA 45Whr battery - U24 TPS65994 and QB6 QB5 mosfet issues - |- |<!--Name-->V15 G3 ALC || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 6500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15"FHD - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L15 Gen 3 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 6000 series || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit- 15.6in 1080p - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Yoga 7 14ARB7 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5, 6600U, 7 6800U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD 660M or 680M || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with ALC3306 aka alc287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 14in 1800p ips 300 nits - usb-c ac charging 71whr integrated battery - sd card slot - digital pen input - 8gb, 6gb or 32gb soldered ddr5 ram - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 g5, E15 Gen 5 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7000 series 7 7730U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB4 thunderbolt}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit- 15.6in 1080p - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkbook 14 G6 ABP IRL || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 7530U 7730U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 untested}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 14in 1200p or 1440p - 100W USB-C AC power adapter - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad Slim 5 Light 14ABR8 Laptop || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 7330U (4c8t) 5 7530U (6c12t) 7 7730U (8c16t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2 m.2 nvme slot - 1 2242, 1 2280 || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 14in 1080p - 8Gb or 16Gb soldered ram - usb-c charging only - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad X13 Gen 4 (13" AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7480U 7040U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{unk| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 - avoid usb-c port damage - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L15 Gen 4 (15" AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7480U 7040U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{unk| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo V15 G4 AMN || <!--Chipset-->AMD AMD Athlon™ Gold 7220U (2c4t), AMD Athlon™ Silver 7120U (2c2t), AMD Ryzen™ 3 7320U (4c8t), AMD Ryzen™ 5 7520U (4c8t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for AMD 610M HDMI® and USB-C}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDaudio with ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Gigabit Ethernet, 1x RJ-45 || <!--Wireless-->{{no|wifi 6}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6" FHD (1920x1080) - 8 or 16Gb soldered - 65W round tip (3-pin) AC adapter or USB-C - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad e14 G6, e15 Gen 6 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7000 series AMD Ryzen™ 7 7735HS || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit- 15.6in 1080p - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L16 (16" AMD), ThinkPad T14 Gen 5 (14" AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 8000 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB4}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Samsung==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="2%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->NP-Q1 Q1 || <!--Chipset-->Celeron-M 353 ULV 600Mhz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes|1.8" SFF HDD 20 / 60 GB }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 915 2D and 3D opengl1 tunnel 95 gearbox 68}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec - head phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Yes|Atheros 5006EX}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit old style tablet UltraMobile PC UMPC - Wacom serial resistive pen or finger no support - 1 sodimm ddr2 max 1Gb - LCD 7" WVGA (800 x 480) - CompactFlash port Type II - |- | <!--Name-->NP Q1U Ultra Mobile PC UMPC Q1F NP-Q1-F000 || <!--Chipset-->Intel A100 600 / A110 Stealey 800 MHz CPU || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|GMA 950 2D and 3D opengl1}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio 1986}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros 5006EX}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit 1024×600 - sd card slot - |- | <!--Name-->NP P500 family P500Y || <!--Chipset-->AMD with SB600 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Ati x1250}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| Audio with codec }} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8039 yukon}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|Atheros G}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->64bit possible - 15.4 tft display - cheap plastic okay build - 19v propriety end - |- | <!--Name-->R505 R510 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros G || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->R520 R522 R610H R620 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Mobile Core i3 Intel PM45 82801M ICH9-M|| <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 (RV730) || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC272 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Marvell Yukon 88E8057 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR5007EG || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2010 64 bit possible |- | NP-R530 || || {{N/A}} || {{partial|IDE mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{partial|HD Audio playback}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{no|Marvell}} || {{no|Atheros AR9285}} || Icaros 1.5.2 || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Samsung R730 17.3 Essential Notebook NP-R730-JA02UK, NP-R730-JA01SE, R730-JT06 || <!--Chipset-->Intel HM55 Dual Core T4300 i3-370M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for Intel 4500MHD and GeForce G 310M with 1 VGA, 1 HDMI}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio ALC??? codec Realtek}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell Yukon 88E8059 PCI-E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom, Intel or Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro-->Deadwoods ISO 2023-11 || <!--Comments-->2010 64bit - 17.3in HD 1280 x 720 pixels low contrast or some 1600x900 - 2 DDR3 sodimm slots - 2.84 kg 6.26 lbs - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-305U1A-A01DE-Subnotebook.68246.0.html Series 3 Samsung 305u1a] || <!--Chipset-->AMD Zacate E350 or E450 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon 6320 || <!--Audio-->ALC ACL 269 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom 4313 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit |- | <!--Name-->NP-RV415 NP-RV515 || <!--Chipset-->E350 or E450 plus A50M chipset || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon HD 6470 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio Realtek || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111 8168B || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9285 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit slow - |- | <!--Name-->Series 5 NP535U3C || <!--Chipset-->A6-4455M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in || <!--Gfx-->radeon || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit slow - 13.3in 1368 x 768 - plastic build - 65w 19v psu - |- | <!--Name-->series 3 NP355V5C || <!--Chipset-->A6-4400M, A8-4500M, A10-4600M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in || <!--Gfx-->7640M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit - 15.4in 1368 x 768 - plastic build - 65w 19v psu - |- | <!--Name-->Samsung ATIV Book 9 Lite NP905S3G || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-1450 quad 1GHz Temash atom like || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->128gb || <!--Gfx-->AMD 8250 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek rtl8169 but only with mini LAN AA-AE2N12B Ethernet Adapter RJ45 dongle}} || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9565 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 13.3 TN glossy 1366 x 768 200nits 60% srgb - plastic case - 26W battery built in with 4hr life - 19V 2.1A 3.0*1.0mm psu - 1 ddr3l slot max 4gb - 720p webcam - mini hdmi out - 1w speakers - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Toshiba==== [[#top|...to the top]] Order of Build Quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Equium Satellite (Pro) Libretto Portege Tecra </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Tecra 8100 8200 9000 || 440BX || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|S3 Savage MX 3D (VESA only)}} || {{no|Yamaha DS-XG ymf744 ymf-754}} || {{yes|USB1.1 only}} || {{N/A}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.5 || little support |- | <!--Name-->Tecra 9100 || <!--Chipset-->810 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|S3 Savage IX}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|ymf754}} || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->eeee pro100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->PSU Adapter For Toshiba Tecra 9000 9100 A1 A10 A11 A3 A3X A4 A5 A7 M1 M2 M3 M4 M5 M7 M9 R10 S1 series 75 Watt 15V 5A |- | [http://tuxmobil.org/toshiba_sp4600.html Satellite Pro 4600] || i810 || IDE || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Trident Cyber Blade XP (VESA only)}} || {{no|YAMAHA DS-XG AC97 ymf754}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel e100}} || {{no|Agere (internal PCMCIA)}} || || little support |- | Satellite 2805 S603 || Intel 815 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|nVidia GeForce2 Go}} || {{no|Yamaha Corp YMF 754}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO/100}} || {{dunno}} || || little support |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A10 S167 S1291 - A15 A20 A25 || <!--Chipset-->P4M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GM or Radeon || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139 || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel 2100, Agere or Atheros PA3399U 1MPC minipci}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->a few models came with antenna leads |- | Satellite [http://eu.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/jsp/SUPPORTSECTION/discontinuedProductPage.do?service=EU&com.broadvision.session.new=Yes&PRODUCT_ID=76230 A30-714] || P4-M / 82845 i845 || {{yes|82801}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes}} || {{yes|RTL8139}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || nice laptop, drawbacks: heavy, really hot (P4-3.06 GHz!!) - A30 (EU) A33 (Australian) A35 (USA) - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A40 A45 || <!--Chipset-->P4M or Celeron M with Intel 845 865 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GME or Radeon 7000 Mobility || <!--Audio-->AC97 Realtek || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5002G 5004G - PA3299U mini pci || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - A40 S161 A40-S1611 A40-2701, A45-S120 A45-S1201 S130 S1301 S1501 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite a50 A55 a60-s156 Equium A60 PSA67E A65 || <!--Chipset-->P4M or Celeron M with Intel 845 865 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GME or Radeon 7000 Mobility || <!--Audio-->AC97 Realtek || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5002G 5004G - PA3299U mini-pci || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A70 A75-S206 A80 A85-S107 || <!--Chipset-->P4M or Celeron-M with Intel 845 865 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GME or Radeon 7000 Mobility || <!--Audio-->AC97 Realtek || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5002G 5004G - PA3299U mini-pci || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5.1 || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - |- | Toshiba Satellite Pro M30 || intel 855 || {{yes|boots with ATA=nodma option}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{yes|Intel PRO/100 VE}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.5 || nice laptop with some support |- | <!--Name-->Portege M300 - M200 tablet || <!--Chipset-->855GM with 1.2GHz Pentium M 753 || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2d only - tablet with nvidia 5200 go}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 STAC 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->little support |- | <!--Name-->Tecra M2 M2-S || <!--Chipset-->Intel 855P Pentium-M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->nvidia fx go5200 32mb or 64mb agp || <!--Audio-->AC97 1981B || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Intel Pro || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - PSU 15V 5A - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro L20 267 (PSL2YE PSL2XE) PSL25E L30 || <!--Chipset-->Celeron M 370 1.4 1.5GHz, 1.73Ghz with RC410M SB400 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - Ati x200}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|[https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-490297-start-0.html ALC861]}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Boots usb sticks}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8139 Realtek 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros mini-pci should work maybe not working with ATi chipset or need to swap??}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit 14" pioneer dvd-rw - 19v |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L30 PSL30E L33 PSL33E || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 800 or ATi RC410 x200 || <!--Audio-->AC97 AD1981B or HD Audio ALC861 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros or Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->L30 PSL30L 101 PSL33E 113 115 134 00M019 - |- | Satellite Pro M40 313 psm44e || AMD with Ati || {{yes|boots with ATA=nodma}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{yes|}} || {{maybe|atheros askey ar5bmb5 mini pci}} || || 2005 32bit - nice laptop with some support |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L40 PSL40E PSL40L, PSL43E || <!--Chipset-->945GM with U7700 1.3GHz ULV || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945 || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD with AD1986A codec}} || <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR24xx Askey || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.3 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit only - - 12X 13G 139 14B 143 15J 19O - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L45 PSL40U S7409 S2416 || <!--Chipset-->945GM with Celeron M 440 1.86 GHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945 || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD with AD1986A codec}} || <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR24xx Askey || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.3 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit only - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro A100 || <!--Chipset-->940G || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia G72M Quadro NVS 110M GeForce Go 7300 / Ati (PSAA3E)|| <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC861 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 100 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 swap with atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A110 159 (PSAB0), Equium A110 (PSAB2E), Satellite A110 233 (PSAB6), || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->ALC861 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8136 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro A120 PSAC0 PSAC1 PSAC1E || <!--Chipset-->Core Solo GMA 950 to T2300 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 945 || <!--Audio-->ALC262 or AC97 AD1981B || <!--USB-->UHCI EHCI || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros Ar5001 or Intel or Broadcom || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->15V 4A charger - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro A120 || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo ATi RS480 + SB450 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA - ATI RC410 Radeon Xpress 200M || <!--Audio-->ALC262 || <!--USB-->OCHI UHCI || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 or Atheros Ar5001 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->15v 5a proprietary charger needed |- | <!--Name-->Satelite A130 PSAD6U || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8101E || <!--Wireless-->Atheros or Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->ST1311 s1311 ST1312 S2276 S2386 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A135 S2686 (Compal LA 3391P) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8101E || <!--Wireless-->Atheros or Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->S2246 S2346 S2256 S4477 S4666 S4827 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A200 PSAE1E (Inventec MW10M) || <!--Chipset-->Pentium M with 945GM Express || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}}|| <!--SATA--> {{Maybe|SATA}}|| <!--Gfx--> {{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D and 3D)}}|| <!--Audio--> {{Yes|HD Audio ALC862}}|| <!--USB--> {{Yes| }}|| <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|RTL8101E}}|| <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros 5000 - FN,F5 or FN,F8 or switch}} || <!--Test Distro--> AspireOS 1.8 || <!--Comments-->2006 Excellent 32 bit support! - Celeron M 520 1.6Ghz or Pentium® Core Duo T2130 1.86 GHz - make sure that your WLAN card is enabled, do this using the hardware switch and FN+F8 key combination |- | <!--Name--> A210, Satellite A215 AMD (Inventec 10A) S5808 || <!--Chipset--> Ati with SB690 || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}}|| <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|SATA}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA HD2600 Mobility M76}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC268 || <!--USB--> {{Yes| }}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8101E}}|| <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros 5000}}|| <!--Test Distro--> AspireOS 1.8 || <!--Comments-->A215-S7422 A215-S7472 A215-S4697 (USA) - |- | <!--Name--> [http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=62036 A215 S4757] || <!--Chipset--> Ati X1200 with SB600 || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}}|| <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|SATA}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> {{Yes| }}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8101E}}|| <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros 5000}}|| <!--Test Distro--> AspireOS 1.8 || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Tecra A10 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{Maybe|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|Intel GMA 4500M (2D)}} || <!--Audio--> {{Yes|HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> {{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO 1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel WiFi Link 5100}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->64 bit possible |- | <!--Name-->L35 - L40 PSL48E - L45 S7423 || <!--Chipset-->GL960 with Intel Celeron || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|X3100 some 2D but software 3d tunnel 9 gearbox 4}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC660 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|REALTEK 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek 8187b replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->1,73Ghz M 520 or M 540 or Dual T2310 (1.46 GHz) T2330 (1.6 GHz) - 14H 14N 15B 17H 17K 17R 17S 18Z - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite a300 - inventec potomac 10s pt10s A300D 21H || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio - Realtek || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8102E || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5005 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->satellite L300D-224 PSLC8E PSLC9E, l305 (inventec ps10s) || <!--Chipset-->AMD M780 with Turion RM70 or QL-64 || <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} || <!--SATA--> {{yes|SATA}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|use VESA for Radeon 3100}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio with Realtek ALC268}} || <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet--> {{no|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros G XB63L or Intel or Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros Desktop Live 2.3 AROS One 2.3 || <!--Comments--> Wireless-handler crashing when using Atheros-Wireless-Card |- | <!--Name-->satellite l300-1bw PSLBDE-005005AR, L300-148 PSLB0E, l300-20D PSLB8E-06Q007EN, l300-294 L300-23L PSLB9E || <!--Chipset-->Intel GM45 + PGA478 socket Celeron 900, Pentium T1600, T2390, T3400 (Socket P) to Core2 Duo T6400 T6670 || <!--IDE--> {{unk|IDE}} || <!--SATA--> {{unk|SATA}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|use VESA for Intel gma 4500M}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio with Realtek ALC???}} || <!--USB--> {{unk|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet--> {{unk|rtl8169 Realtek 810xE}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64-bit - new unfamiliar Bios called insyde H20 - |- | <!--Name-->satellite l350d || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon (tm) X2 QL-60 + RS780M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 3100 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8187b || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L450 12 13 14 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Sempron, 2.1GHz with AMD RS780M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 3200 (based on HD 2400) || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8172 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->12X 13P 13X 14V PSLY6E00C006EN |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro L450 (Compal LA-5821P) 179 || <!--Chipset-->intel celeron 900 2.20 Ghz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->intel 4500m || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101 /2 /6E PCI Express Gigabit || <!--Wireless-->RTL8191 SEvB || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->39.6cm (15.6”) Toshiba TruBrite® HD TFT High Brightness display with 16:9 aspect ratio internal resolution 1366 x 768 |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->L755D (E-350) L750D (E-450) || <!--Chipset-->AMD || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 6310 6320 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio conexant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Realtek || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro SP C640 C660D-15X (PSC1YE) C670D- () || <!--Chipset-->AMD E350 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->6310G || <!--Audio-->HD Realtek ALC259 || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 zacate |- |<!--Name-->Toshiba Satellite C660D-19X || <!--Chipset-->AMD E-300 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATi || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->r8169 rtl8101e || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8188 8192ce rtl8192ce || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->C70D-A C75D-A || <!--Chipset-->E1-1200 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD HD8330 || <!--Audio-->HA Audio CX20751 11Z || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8162 alx}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek 8188e}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satelite Pro C40D-A C50D-A C55D-A || <!--Chipset-->Slow E1 2100 or faster A4 5000 kabini || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->8330 || <!--Audio-->HD Realtek ALC269Q || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|AR8162}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RTL8188EE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Satelite S50D || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-5745M (4c4t), A8-5545M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon 8550M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->REaltek GbE || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8188E || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 15.6in 2.38kg and 24mm - |- | <!--Name-->Satelite C50DT-B-107 PSCN6E M50DT-A-210 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A8-6410 A6-5200 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon R3 R5 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->REaltek GbE || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8188E || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 15.6 Inch Touchscreen 1366 x 768 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L50D-C-13G || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-8700P 6th Gen || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon R6 || <!--Audio-->HD || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->1GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Sharp formerly 80% Toshiba Computers || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->dynabook formerly 20% Toshiba PC, Satellite Pro C40D C50D || <!--Chipset-->intel i? or AMD Ryzen || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in and 15.6in - ddr4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Misc==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Time 500 Packard Bell EasyOne 1450 1550 || <!--Chipset-->K6-3 500Mhz + VIA MVP4 vt82c686a || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|Issues}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA || <!--Audio-->{{No|VIA AC97 3058 with wolfson codec WM9703 WM9704 WM9707 WM9708 or WM9717}} || <!--USB-->via 3038 2 ports USB 1.1 untested || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro-->NB May 2013 || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit grub runs but stalls around [PCI] Everything OK |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Sony Vaio PCG FX201/FX202 FX210/FX215 FX401/FX402 FX404/FX405 972M, FX501/FX502 FX504/FX505, FX601/FX602, FX604/FX605 FXA53(US), FX701/FX702, FX704/FX705, FX801/FX802 FX804/FX805 || <!--Chipset-->[http://gaugusch.at/vaio/ FX] [http://tech.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/FX210/ Sony Yahoo Group] VIA KT133A KM133 Duron 800Mhz Athlon 1.3Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{partial|boot issue with 2013 kernel VIA [rev 06]}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|ATI Rage Mobility Pro (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|VIA AC97 686b [rev 50] AD1881A Ear phone and Mic}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|UHCI [rev 1a]}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Comments-->Nightly 1st March 2013 || <!--Comments-->booting usb pendrive from Plop Boot Loader floppy (no bios USB boot). Can freeze coz hardware issue or a ram slot problem - no support for iLink firewire VT8363/8365 pci - vt82c686b |- | <!--Name-->Sony Vaio PCG FX100 R505LE || <!--Chipset-->Intel i815 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA Intel 82815 CGC || <!--Audio-->Intel ICH AC97 with ADI AD1881A codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel e100 || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->PCG-FX105 FX105K PCG-FX108 FX108K PCG-FX109 FX109K FX200 FX203/FX203K FX205 FX205K FX209 FX209K FX220 [http://juljas.net/linux/vaiofx240/ FX240] FX250 FX270 FX290 FX301 FX302 FX340 FX370 FX390 FX403 FX503 FX950 |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | Sony VAIO VGN X505VP || Pentium M ULV and Intel 855GM || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Intel 855 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VE}} || {{N/A}} || || 2004 32bit - 0.38 inches at its thinnest point - first laptop to feature a "chiclet" keyboard resemble Chiclets gum - |- | <!--Name-->Sony Z505LE Z505JE || <!--Chipset-->P3 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->n/a || <!--Gfx-->Rage Mobility M1 AGP mach64 || <!--Audio-->no Yamaha DS-XG PCI YMF744 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 8255x based PCI e100 || <!--Wireless-->n/a || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->Panasonic Toughbook CF-18 || <!--Chipset-->Core || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|gma for i915}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 SigmaTel}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|usb2 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL 8139C}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel swap for atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Deadwoods' D02 test || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Panasonic Toughbook CF-29 CF-30 || <!--Chipset-->Core || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA || <!--Audio-->AC97 SigmaTel || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139C || <!--Wireless-->Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->MSI Microstar PR210 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA ATi RS690M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio through speaker / head phones but not hdmi}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8111 8169}} || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR242x AR542x aw-ge780 mini pci-e || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - ENE PCI based SD card with no bios boot option |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Advent 7106 EAA-88 || <!--Chipset-->Pentium M 1.7GHz with 915GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D and 3D tunnel 187 gearbox 67}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 Intel ICH6 with Conexant Cx20468 31 codec playback head phones only}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200BG Fn/F2 replaced with atheros mini pci in small base panel - startup errors in wireless manager}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 14" cheap rubbish sadly - fan noise through audio channel - |- | <!--Name-->Motion Computing LE1600 PC Slate || <!--Chipset-->915 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->915 || <!--Audio-->Intel AC97 SigmaTel STAC9758 9759 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 serial Wacom digitiser not usb |- | <!--Name-->Panasonic Toughbook CF-51 CF-P1 CF-T5 CF-Y2 || <!--Chipset-->945GMS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom || <!--Wireless-->Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Sony Vaio VGN UX1XN UMPC || <!--Chipset-->Core Solo U1500 1.33GHz with 945GM chipset || <!--IDE-->1.8 inch ZIF || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945GMS || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Marvell Yukon 8036 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->32bit only - 4.5 inch screen ultra mobile PC |- | Sony Vaio VGN SR29VN || Intel ICH9 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE legacy}} || {{partial|ATI HD 3400 (VESA only)}} || {{partial|HD Audio (too quiet)}} || {{yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} || {{no|Marvell 8040}} || {{no|Intel 5100}} || Icaros 1.5 || 2007 32bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Wyse XM Class DELL WYSE Xn0m LAPTOP || <!--Chipset-->AMD T-G56N 1.6 1.65Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->decased 2.5in ssd || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d only AMD 6320}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|EHCI 2.0 with NEC uPD720200 USB 3.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek rtl8169 8111E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 93xx}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 1366 x 768 14" - 2 ddr3l slots max 16gb - 19v coax barrel plug psu - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Huawei Matebook D KPL-W00 Honor Magicbook 2018 || <!--Chipset-->2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|AMD Vega 8 use VESA}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{no|3.1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 14inch 1080p - internal battery - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Avita Pura 14 AVITA-PURAR3, AVITA-PURAR5 Hong Kong tech giant Nexstgo || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R3 3200U, R5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 || <!--Gfx-->Vega 3 (R3) 7 (R5) || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit 1,920 x 1,080 14in IPS but dim 194cd/m² and 59.4% of the sRGB colour gamut - 1 ddr4l sodimm slot - keyboard issues keyboard repair swap requires removal of all - components - flexible plastic build - 3 hr battery internal - |- | <!--Name-->Avita Liber V 3200U Ryzen 5 3500U, Avita Admiror 14 R7 3700U (UK only) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - better build but same 3 hr battery - 14" 1080p screen IPS 80% sRGB gamut - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Huawei Matebook D 15 14 AMD KPR-WX9 Honor Magicbook WAQ9AHNR, Huawei NBLK-WAX9X || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 3500U 4700U 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|AMD Vega 8 use VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{Unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3.1 gen 1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel or Realtek || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 2020 - internal 42W later 56W battery - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - f6.5 recessed webcam |- | <!--Name-->Xiaomi Redmibook 16 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 7 4700U with FCH 51 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->SSD 3 || <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon RX Vega 7 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{no|3.1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8821CE wifi || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit metal 16.1 IPS 99% srgb 240 nits - 46whr battery - no webcam - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Medion AG AKOYA® E14304 (MD63780), e14303 (MSN 30031052) (MD62110), Medion Akoya E15303 (lenovo bought 2011) || <!--Chipset-->4300u or Ryzen7 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->Vega 6 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bits 14" to 15"FHD 1080p - 8gb soldered - 19v 65W round port or usb-c charge psu - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Netbook=== [[#top|...to the top]] * One of the better options if re-partitioning of the hard disk is not suitable or wanted is to go with AROS hosted i.e. run a small linux distro and host AROS on top. AROS can exist on a Windows(TM) install as well. See here for more information [https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=779.0 Linux hosted] and [ Windows hosted] with downloads here [http://aros.sourceforge.net/download.php AROS download page] * installation needs an USB optical drive or an USB pen drive (see below) * PC with CD or DVD to install to a USB pendrive for boot purposes on a netbook * SD card sometimes can [ boot] like Dell 2100, EeePC 1001P, ASUS EeePC 900, acer aspire one d150, MSI Wind U100, [http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Audio-Codec-Comparison-Table/520 Audio Codecs] ====Acer Packard Bell Netbooks==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width=100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Aspire One AOA110 (A110) (ZG5) || Intel 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA (2D and 3D) tunnel 99 and gearbox 84 score}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC6628}} || {{Yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} || {{Yes|RTL8101E - rtl8169}} || {{Yes|AR5006}} atheros 5k || AspireOS 1.8 || 2007 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel A13-045N2A 19V2.37A 45W 5.5x1.7mm - |- | Aspire One AOA150 (A150) (ZG5) || Intel 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|ide mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 2D and accelerated 3D with tunnel 99 and gearbox 84.1 result}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC6628}} || {{Yes|uhci and ehci}} || {{Yes|RTL8101E - rtl8169}} || {{Yes|AR5006}} atheros 5k || AspireOS 1.8 || 2007 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel - |- | Aspire One AOD150 D150 (Compal LA-4781P), AOD110 D110 (ssd) || Intel 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|ide legacy}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{Yes|HDAudio with alc272}}] || {{Yes|USB}} || {{No|Atheros AR8121 AR8113 AR8114 l1e}} || {{Maybe|AR5007EG AR5BXB63 works but Broadcom BCM4312 has no support}} || Icaros Desktop 1.3 || 2008 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel - |- | Aspire One AOD250 D250 emachines em250 || 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|ide legacy}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{Yes|alc272 HD Audio}} || {{Yes}} || {{No|AR8132 (L1c)}} || {{No|BCM4312 or Atheros AR5B95}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2009 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire AO532H (Compal LA-5651p) 533H Pineview || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio playback}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|AR8132 (L1c)}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k}} || [http://www.amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=5968 Tested AspireOS June 2011] || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->emachines eM350 NAV51 || <!--Chipset--> with N450 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 3150 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2 || <!--Comments-->Single core 64bit - 160GB HDD 1GB RAM 10.1" LED backlit screen and Webcam - 3 cell li-ion battery for 3 hours usage - |- | <!--Name-->emachines eM355 || <!--Chipset--> with N455 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->64bit support possible - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One 533 || <!--Chipset-->N455 with NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D 0x8086 0xa011}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| ALC272 codec ich7}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8152 v1.1 1c}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4313}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 and AROS One 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - f2 setup - 10.1inch 1024 x 768 - |- | Aspire One AOD255 AOD255e AOD260 AOHAPPY (Compal LA-6221P) || N570 and Nm10 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|SATA}} || {{Maybe|Intel GMA 3150}} || Audio || USB || {{No|Atheros AR8152 V1.1 (1lc)}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313}} || || a little support |- | Aspire One 522 AO522 (Compal LA-7072p) || 1GHz dual C-50 C50 or C-60 C60 + Hudson M1 || {{N/A}} || SATA || AMD 6250 (ATI 9804) or 6290 || ATI SB CX20584 HD Audio || USB || Atheros 8152 v2.0 l1c || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313 or Atheros ath9k}} || || |- | <!--Name-->AAOD270 Aspire One D270 || <!--Chipset-->N2600 Cedarview || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D on Intel GMA 3650}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8169 RTL8101E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4313 but swap for Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit atom - ddr2 so-dimm 2gb max - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One AO532G (Compal LA-6091p) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One D257 (Quanta ZE6) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire One 722 AO722 P1VE6 || <!--Chipset-->AMD C-60 C60 with SB900 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe| use VESA Ati 6290}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec but no Wrestler HDMI output}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros AR8152 v2.0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9485}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One AO721 (Wistron SJV10-NL) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->AO751 AO751H (Quanta ZA3) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot .S || <!--Chipset-->N280 + || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|legacy}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA950 (2D)}}|| <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC272X || <!--USB--> USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Atheros l1e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros 9k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot .SE || <!--Chipset-->N450 + || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA950 (2D) || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC|| <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot .S2 NAV50 || <!--Chipset-->N455 NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel X3150 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC269 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Atheros || <!--Wireless-->Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot M/A || <!--Chipset-->1.2GHz Athlon L110 + RS690E || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy mode? || <!--Gfx-->AMD ATI Radeon Xpress X1270 (VESA only) || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ATI SBx00 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Asus Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Models eeePC] 700 701 2G 4G 8G Surf || Intel 910GML + ICH7 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 900 2D and 3D tunnel 68 gearbox 43 on 701 800x480}} || {{Yes|ALC662 HD Audio}} || {{Yes|UHCI and EHCI}} || {{No|Atheros L2}} || {{Yes| }} AR5007EG (AR2425) - [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=32391&forum=28&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#583583 works] || NB 2013 and 2.1.1 (best) and 2.1.2 || 2007 32bit - power supplies fail due to bad caps issue psu Power Charger 9.5V 2.5A 24W Charger 4.8*1.7MM - |- | [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Models eeePC] 701SD || Intel 910GML + ICH7 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Maybe|Intel GMA 900 (2D)}} || {{Yes|ALC662 HD Audio}} || {{Yes|UHCI and EHCI}} || {{No|Atheros L2}} || {{No|RTL8187SE swap with Atheros 5k}} || AspireOS 1.7 || 2007 32bit - boot issues but does boot with ATA=32bit,nopoll or ATA=nodma,nopoll |- | [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Models eeePC] 900 || Intel 910GML + ICH7 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Maybe|Intel GMA 900 (2D, 3D in some models)}} || {{Yes|ALC662 HD Audio]}} || {{Yes|UHCI and EHCI}} || {{No|Atheros L2}} || {{Maybe|depends on chipset}} AR5007EG (AR2425) - [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=32391&forum=28&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#583583 works] but not RaLink || AspireOS 1.7 || 2008 32bit - boot issues but does boot with ATA=32bit,nopoll or ATA=nodma,nopoll. 900's may need BIOS upgrade to boot usb optical drives. 3D available in some and not all model revisions - |- | eeePC 900A || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (3D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC269}} || {{Yes|USB2.0}} || {{No|Atheros L1e [1969 1026]}} || {{Yes|Atheros 5k AR242x}} || Nightly Build 2012 05-25 || 2009 32bit |- | eeePC 901 1000 || 945GM || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{Yes|ALC269 HD Audio}} || {{Yes|USB}} || {{No|Atheros L1E (AR8121 AR8113 AR8114)}} || {{No|RaLink Device 2860 swap with Atheros 5k}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2009 32bit |- | eeePC Seashell 1000HA 1000HE 1008 1005HA || N280 + Intel GMA950 || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{Yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC269}} || {{Yes|USB}} || {{Maybe|Realtek but not Atheros AR8132 (L1c)}} || {{No|Atheros AR9285 swap with Atheros 5k}} || Aspire OS 1.6 || 2010 32bit |- | <!--Name-->eeePC 1001ha || <!--Chipset-->GMA945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 950 (2D) || <!--Audio-->ALC269 HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Attansic Atheros AR8132 l1c}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RaLink RT3090 swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2010 32bit |- | eeePC 1001P T101MT 1005PX 1005PE 1015PE Pineview 1001PXD || NM10 and N450 N455 CPU || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio}} || {{Yes|USB 2.0}} || {{No|Atheros AR8132 (l1c)}} || {{No|Atheros AR928x 802.11n}} || Icaros 1.3.3 || 2011 64bit |- | EeePC 1015B 1215B || single C-30 C30 or dual C-50 C50 + Hudson M1 || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{partial|AMD 6250 (VESA only)}} || ATI SBx00 HD Audio || USB || {{No|AR8152 v2.0 atl1c}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313 [14e4 4727]}} || || 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Flare X101CH Cedarview || <!--Chipset-->N2600 + N10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 6300 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros l1c 2.0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Flare 1025CE 1225CE || <!--Chipset-->N2800 + N10 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{dunno|Intel GMA 3600}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros l1c 2.0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Dell Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Inspiron 910 Mini 9 PP39S Vostro A90 || GMA945 || {{Maybe|STEC 8G 16G 32G IDE PATA Parallel ATA miniPCIE SSD 50MM / 70MM very slow}} || {{N/A| }} || {{yes|Intel GMA 2D and 3D opengl1}} || {{yes|ALC268 HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB2 boots and works}} || {{yes|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8102E}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4310 and 4312 swap with atheros 5k bx32}} || ICAROS 1.3 but Icaros 2.3 (pci issues), AROS One 2.6 and Tiny AROS (digiclock startup) mouse cursor vanishes || 2009 32bit - 9inch 1024x600 screen - 1 ddr2 sodimm slot max 2gig - 19v 1.58a - 0 boot disk select - cr2032 battery under laptop base cover, while mem 2GB max under base flap - |- | <!--Name-->Mini 10 1010 PP19S || <!--Chipset-->Atom Z520 Z530 Intel US15W Poulsbo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel GMA 500 (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio ALC269 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 RTL8102E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or BCM4312}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - 10.10 inch 16:9, 1366 x 768 glossy - 28whr or 56wHr battery options - |- | [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Dell%20Mini%2010v%20(Inspiron%201011) Mini 10v 1011] [http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/InspironMini10v ] || Intel 950 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|ide legacy mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || HD Audio || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|RTL8102E 8103E}} || {{no|Dell 1397 Wireless}} || || |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron Mini 1018 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode }} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D, no VGA output)}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio head phones only - speaker and micro phone do not work}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|RTL8188CE or AR928X}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.5.1 || <!--Comments--> |- | Latitude 2100 || Intel Atom N270 N280 1.60Ghz GMA 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{Yes|set to IDE in bios as ahci not working || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D and 3D with tunnel 98 and gearbox 84)}} || {{yes|HD Audio with ALC272 codec}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM5764M}} || {{No|Intel 5100 or BCM4322 DW 1510 half height mini pcie use small Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->AspireOS 1.8, Icaros 2.1.1 and AROS One USB 2.4 || 2009 32bit ddr2 sodimm max 2G - [https://sites.google.com/site/arosaspireone/about-aspire-one Webcam and card reader not working] lcd cable over hinge an issue - f12 bios and boot - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude 2110 2120 || <!--Chipset-->N470 1.83Ghz, N455 1.6Ghz, N550 1.5Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|ATA mode in bios not ahci}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 3150 2D only}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with ALC269 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| swap for Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - ddr2 sodimm |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====HP Compaq Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | HP Mini 2133 || VIA C7-M P4M900 / 8237 VX700 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{maybe|VIA Chrome 9 HC (VESA only)}} || VT1708/A HD Audio || USB || {{no|Broadcom Corp NetXtreme BCM5788}} || {{no|Broadcom Corp BCM4312}} || || |- | HP mini 1000 Mi 2140 ks145ut || N270 + 945GM || {{N/A}} || SATA || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D and opengl1 3d)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio (playback tested)}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{no|Broadcom Corp BCM4312 hard blocked}} || || 2011 32Bit - unable to change wifi card |- | <!--Name-->HP Mini 700 702 || <!--Chipset-->N270 + 945GSE || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio IDT 92HD75B (111d:7608, only playback tested)}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom hard locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | Compaq HP Mini 110 110-3112sa || 945GM Express || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{yes|HD Audio IDT STAC 92xx}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{no|Atheros}} || {{no|Broadcom hard blocked Fn+F12}} || || 2011 32bit - unable to change wifi |- | HP Mini 200 210 || 945GM NM10 Express || {{N/A}} || SATA || Intel GMA 950 || HD Audio || USB || RTL8101E RTL8102E || {{no|Broadcom BCM4312 hard locked}} || || |- | HP Mini 311 DM1 (Quanta FP7) || N280 + ION LE || {{N/A}} || SATA || nVidia Geforce ION || HD Audio || USB || eth || {{No|hard locked}} || || 2009 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Wireless--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |} ====Lenovo Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | IdeaPad S9 S9e(3G) S10 S10e(3G) || 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{no|ALC269 or SigmaTel HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Broadcom NetLink BCM5906M}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4312 hard blocked}} || || little support |- | IdeaPad S12 || N270 + Nvidia ION LE MCP79 || {{N/A}} || SATA || nVidia C79 ION [Quadro FX 470M] || ALC269 HD Audio || USB || Broadcom || Intel hard blocked || || Does not boot - cause unknown |- | S10-2 || 945GME and N280 CPU || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{no|ALC269 HD Audio}} || {{yes}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4312 hard blocked}} || Icaros 1.3 || |- | S10-3 || NM410 and N450 CPU || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || {{no|HD Audio ALC269}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|Atheros 9285 or Broadcom BCM4312 hard blocked}} || Icaros 1.3 || |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad 100S || <!--Chipset-->Atom Z36xxx Z37xxx Series SoC || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel || <!--Audio-->Intel SST Audio Device (WDM) || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8723BS hard blocked || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Samsung Netbooks==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | [http://www.amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=616910&topic_id=33755&forum=28#616910 NC10] || 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{partial|SigmaTel HD Audio (playback only)}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{maybe|rtl8169 works but not Marvell 88E8040 sky2}} || {{yes|AR5007EG}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2009 32bit - Nano silver on keyboard and lcd ribbon cable over hinge issues |- | [http://www.sammywiki.com/wiki/Samsung_NC20 NC20] || VIA VX800 || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{maybe|VIA Chrome9 (VESA only)}} || ALC272 GR (VT1708A) HD Audio || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{yes|Atheros AR5001}} || || 2009 32bit - little support |- | N110 N120 || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{yes|ALC272 HD Audio or ALC6628}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{no|Realtek rtl8187}} || || 2009 32bit - some support - Namuga 1.3M Webcam none |- | N130 || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{yes|SATA in IDE mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 2D and opengl 1.x 99.5 tunnel 99 gearbox}} || {{yes|Intel HD with ALC272 ALC269 codec playback}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|RTL 8169.device - 8101e 8102e}} || {{no|rtl 8192se rtl8187 too small an area to swap for atheros 5k}} || || 2009 32bit - 10.x inch 1024 x 600 - Namuga 1.3M Webcam - front slide power on and f2 setup bios - keyboard 17.7mm Pitch is made with Silver Nano (Anti-Bacterial) tech - small touchpad - 1 ddr2 2rx16 sodimm slot 2G max - 44Wh |- | <!--Name-->Go NP-N310 || <!--Chipset-->N270 + 945GME || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio ALC6628}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|Atheros5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2010 32bit - N280 version changed specs |- | N510 || N270 euro N280 uk + ION MCP79 || {{N/A}} || SATA || nVidia C79 ION [Quadro FX 470M] || HD Audio || USB || Marvell 88E8040 || Realtek 8192E || || Does not boot - cause unknown |- | <!--Name-->NC110 Axx || <!--Chipset-->NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Sata || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC269 codec A9M22Q2 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4313 or Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - |- | NF210 Pineview || n455 or n550 + N10 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{maybe|Intel GMA 3150 (needs retesting, VESA works)}} || {{yes|HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || Wireless || || 2011 64bit - some support |- | NP N145 Plus || n450 + NM10 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D, no VGA output)}} || {{yes|Realtek HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{no|Atheros AR9285}} || || 2010 some support but often the trackpad does not work |- | <!--Name-->NS310 NP-NS310-A03UK || <!--Chipset-->N570 with NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use Vesa 2d }} || <!--Audio-->{{yes| ich7}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 realtek 810xe }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|bcm4313 }} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit Atom N570 or 1.5 GHz Intel Atom N550 dual core processor, 1 DDR3 sodimm slot memory, a 250GB hard drive, and a 10.1 inch, 1024 x 600 pixel 10.1" W7St - 2300mAh short life - |- | <!--Name-->[https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Samsung_N150 N150] NB30 || <!--Chipset-->MN10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8040}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285 or Realtek 8192E}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->a little support |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.kruedewagen.de/wiki/index.php/Samsung_N220 N210 N220] N230 || <!--Chipset-->N450 + NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC269 || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->a little |- | <!--Name-->NC110 Pxx Cedarview || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{dunno|Intel GMA 3600}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6000g}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Toshiba Netbooks==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->NB100 || <!--Chipset-->945GM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|legacy}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC262 HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|AR5001}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 32bit - some support |- | <!--Name-->Mini NB200 series NB205 || <!--Chipset-->N280 + GSE945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|IDE legacy mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->ALC272 HD Audio || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2009 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->Mini 300 series NB305 || <!--Chipset-->N455 with NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 3150 (2D) || <!--Audio-->ALC272 HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->{{no|AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Mini 500 series NB505 NB520 NB550-10v || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 3150 (2D) || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8176 RTL 8188CE || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit - |- | [http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Toshiba-NB550D-AMD-Fusion-Netbook.46551.0.html Mini NB550D 10G] 108 (c30) 109 (c50) || C-50 + M1 || {{N/A}} || SATA || AMD 6250 (VESA only) || HD Audio || USB || Realtek 8111e rtl8169 || Atheros 9k || || 2011 64bit Realtek SD card reader |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Misc Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="30%" |Comments |- | Cammy's A1600 || GME945 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{yes|Intel GMA950 (2D)}} || {{yes|HD Audio playback}} || {{yes}} || {{no|JMC 250/260}} || Wireless || Icaros 1.2.4 || |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Mini Ui 3520 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 945 || <!--ACPI--> || <!--SATA-->{{yes}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->ALC269 HD Audio || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|AR5001}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->good |- | Guillemot Hercules eCafe EC-900 H60G-IA], Mitac MiStation and Pioneer Computers Dreambook Light U11 IL1 || Intel 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{yes|Intel GMA950 (2D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio (playback only)}} || {{yes|uhci and ehci}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|RAlink RT2860}} || || Slowly gaining support |- | <!--Name-->Hannspree Hannsnote SN10E2 24 48 || <!--Chipset-->N450 + NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->IDE legacy mode || <!--Gfx-->Pineview Intel (2D) || <!--Audio-->ALC HD Audio || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Atheros l1c || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9285 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion--> |- | MSI Wind U90/U100 || GME945 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{partial|HD Audio ALC888s (playback only?)}} || {{yes|uhci 1.1 and ehci 2.0}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|RaLink RT2860 RT2700E or rtl8187se (u100x)}} || Icaros 1.3 || |- | Advent 4211 || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || Intel GMA950 (2D) || ALC HD Audio || USB || rtl8169 || {{no|Intel 3945 ABG}} || || MSI U100 clone |- | <!--Name-->Hannspree Hannsnote SN10E1 || <!--Chipset-->N270 + GMA945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->ALC HD Audio || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E RTL8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|RaLink RT2860}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->MSI U100 clone |- | <!--Name--> Vaio VGN-P11Z | <!--Chipset--> | <!--IDE--> {{dunno}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{Partial|Intel (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Marvell}} | <!--Wireless--> {{no|Atheros AR928X}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 2.0.3 | <!--Comments--> Rarely boots! |- | <!--Name-->Sony VPC-W11S1E | <!--Chipset-->N280 with 945GSE | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA950 - hdmi}} | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with realtek codec | <!--USB-->3 USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8132}} | <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285 swap with 5k}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit - 10.1" 1366 x 768 glossy - 3hr battery life - |- | <!--Name-->Archos 10 Netbook || <!--Chipset-->Atom with ICH7 NM10 945GSE || <!--IDE-->{{No }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC662 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI Wind U135 DX MS-N014 || <!--Chipset-->Intel N455 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D only accelerated}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ALC662 rev 1}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|RTL}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR 9K}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->needs noacpi notls added to grub boot line to start up |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Desktop Systems=== [[#top|...to the top]] Most Intel Atom and equivalent AMD Fusion CPUs / APUs are faster than Intel P3s but still some way short of P4 or Dual Core performance. {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" | <!--OK-->{{Yes|'''Works well'''}} || <!--May work-->{{Maybe|'''Works a little'''}} || <!--Not working-->{{No|'''Does not work'''}} || <!--Not applicable-->{{N/A|'''N/A not applicable'''}} |- |} ====Acer==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.acer.com/ac/en/ID/content/support-product/486;-; Veriton X270 VTX270] Intel Core 2 Duo ED7400C or Pentium dual-core UD7600C with 630i | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d Nvidia 7100 VGA and HDMI connections}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe| with realtek codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|4 rear and 5 front}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe| nForce}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 dvd | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit capable but would not fully boot, DHCP address timeout too short and failed often. Put in a third party NIC, worked - 1 PCI Express x16 slot and a free PCI x1 slot - internal thin long psu with 12pin - |- | <!--Name--> Imedia S1710 with Intel Dual Core E5200 | <!--IDE--> {{Yes|SATA/AHCI}} | <!--SATA--> {{Maybe|Native IDE}} | <!--Gfx--> {{Yes|Nvidia nForce 7100}} | <!--Audio--> {{Yes|Nvidia MCP73}} | <!--USB--> {{Yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{No|NVIDIA MCP73 Ethernet}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 14-09-2023, AROS One 2.3 | <!--Comments--> 2009 64-bit - Boot over USB not working on front - 2 DDR2 dual channel max 8GB - DEL for entering Bios - F12 for boot menu - Bus weird, could be reason for Ethernet issue |- | <!--Name-->Acer Revo AR1600, R1600 AR3600, R3600 Packard Bell iMax Mini, ACER Veriton N260G N270G slim nettop subcompact | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Native IDE mode, '''when it works''' boots}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Nvidia ION GeForce 9300M - nouveau 3d - '''when it boots''' 400 fps in shell'ed gearbox, 278 in tunnel, 42 in teapot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with alc662 codec but nothing from HDMI audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Nvidia USB boot usb2 stick issues and slower with usb3 drives}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|MCP79 nForce}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 Intel Atom 230 N280 - 20cm/8" high 1 ltr noisy fan - very often boot stuck around ehciInit - DEL setup F12 boot options - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4GB - 19v special barrel size 5.5mm/1.7mm psu - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4GB - atheros 5k AR5BXB63 wifi - |- | <!--Name-->Revo AR3610 R3610 3610 Atom 330 nettop subcompact dual core | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Native IDE mode, '''when it works''' boots}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Nvidia ION GeForce 9400M LE MCP79MX - nouveau 3d - '''when it boots''' 400 fps in shell'ed gearbox, 278 in tunnel, 42 in teapot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with Realtek alc662 rev1 alc662-hd later ALC885 codec but nothing from HDMI audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Nvidia USB with 1% chance boot with usb2 sticks, more issues with usb3 drives}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|RTL 8211CL MCP79 nForce}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 1.5, 1.6 and 2.4 usb | <!--Comments-->2010 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 20cm/8" high 1 ltr noisy fan - boot often stuck around ehciInit, SATA, etc try ATA=off, non usb hub keyboard, - DEL bios setup, F12 BBS POPUP/drive boot - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4GB - 19v barrel psu with smaller inner pin size 5.5mm/1.7mm - replace wifi RT3090 ver c (linux) with atheros 5k - |- | <!--Name-->REVO AR3700 R3700 3700 Atom D525 dual core - ACER Veriton N282G *one long beep followed by two short, bios damaged *looping one long two short, a video card fault *two short beeps... CMOS damaged *got one long and one short beep... board error? | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE ready in Bios}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia ION2 GT218 ION vga fine '''but''' hdmi fussy over display used - nouveau 2d & 3d gearbox 404 tunnel 292 teapot 48}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDA Intel with Realtek ALC662 rev1 codec, head phones only but nothing from NVidia HDMI}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|Intel® NM10 Express (NM10 is basically an ICH7 with a die shrink and IDE removed) USB boots usb, installs usb, accesses ok}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169 8111g}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS one USB 1.5 and 1.6 | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 20cm/8" high 1 ltr noisy fan - early 2 ddr2 sodimm slots but later 2 ddr3 sodimm slots 1Rx8 max 4GB - 19v barrel psu thinner pin - replace wifi RT3090 ver d with atheros 5k mini pci-e - ACPI Suspend Mode = S1, S3 (STR), S4 - Power on PCIe * Known Acer issue, Boot into bios, set bios to UEFI and reboot, set bios back to defaults and reboot, blank display, repair with reflash of 8 pin Winbond W25Q socketed bios chip with ch341a using 2011/09/19 P01.B0L, 2011/05/09 P01.A4, 2011/05/03 P01.A3L, 2010/12/27 P01.A2L, 2010/12/27 P01.A2 amiboot.rom - |- | <!--Name-->Revo 70 (RL70) with or without dvdrw | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->6320 or 6310 | <!--Audio-->HD audio ALC662-VCO-GR codec | <!--USB-->USB2, 1.1 Hudson D1 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD E450 1.65GHz - 19v 65w barrel psu thinner inner pin - 2 DDR3L single channel max 4GB - replace wifi RT3090 ver d with atheros 5k mini pci-e - 1lr or 1.5 ltr dvdrw case 209.89 mm, (D) 209.89 mm, (H) 35.35 mm - del enter bios - |- |} ====Asus==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->EEEbox B202 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA950 | <!--Audio-->Intel Azalia HDaudio with Realtek ALC662 or ALC888-GR CODEC | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 or JM250 | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros | <!--Comments-->internal 3 types of wifi chipset not supported |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Dell==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name--> Precision 340 | <!--IDE--> {{yes}} | <!--SATA--> {{n/a}} | <!--Gfx--> {{n/a}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|Intel AC97}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 1.1 (UHCI)}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|3Com}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Dimension 2400 | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 82845GL Brookdale G/GE (VESA 640x480 by 16)}} | <!--Audio-->{{Unk|AC97 with ADI codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|UHCI EHCI}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom 440x 4401}} | <!--Test Distro-->[http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=832495 Icaros 1.4] | <!--Comments-->Graphics chipset is capable of higher resolution. |- | <!--Name-->Dimension 4600 | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{dunno}} | <!--Gfx-->{{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 (use rear black port)}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|UHCI/EHCI}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Intel PRO/100}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5.2 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 170L | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|Intel AC97}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|Intel PRO/100}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex GX260 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|Intel AC97}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Intel PRO/1000}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | Optiplex GX270 | {{yes|Working}} | {{partial|IDE mode}} | {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | {{yes|Intel AC97}} | {{yes|USB 2.0}} | {{no|Intel PRO/1000}} | Icaros 1.5.2 | <!--Comments--> |- | Optiplex GX280 | {{yes|Working}} | {{partial|IDE mode}} | {{maybe|Intel GMA (only VESA tested)}} | {{yes|Intel AC97}} | {{yes|USB 2.0}} | {{no|Broadcom}} | Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex GX520 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{yes|Intel GMA}} | <!--Audio--> {{partial|Intel AC97 (no line-out)}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 745 | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel GMA (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{partial|HD Audio (no volume control)}} | <!--USB--> {{partial|Only keyboard mouse (legacy mode)}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 755 | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel GMA (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Intel Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.5.1 | <!--Comments--> Around 25 second delay in booting from USB |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 990 | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|non-RAID mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel HD (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Intel Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 360 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|ordinary boot gives VGA mode only - VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|HD Audio (Analog Devices ID 194a)}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->Aspire Xenon | <!--Comments-->poor support |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse Vx0 (V90 V30), Vx0L (V10L V90L), Vx0LE (V30LE V90LE) from VIA C7 800GHz to Eden 1.2GHz | <!--IDE-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d for S3 UniChrome Pro}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 VIA VT8233A with ?? codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 back and 1 front USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|early models work but later VT6102-3 do not}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.2 | <!--Comments-->2006 to 2009 32bit - 12V 4A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm - 1 sodimm DDR 333MHz SO-DIMM later DDR2 - early V90s do seem to have a reliability problem - |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.poppedinmyhead.com/2021/01/wyse-cx0-thin-client-notes-experiences.html Dell Wyse Cx0] C00LE, C10LE, C30LE, C50LE, C90LE, C90LE7, C90LEW VIA C7 Eden 1GHz | <!--IDE-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d VX855 VX875 Chrome 9}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|some VIA VT8237A VT8251 HDA with ?? codec work}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 outside 2 inside USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|VT6120 VT6121 VT6122 Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2010 to 2013 32bit - [https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=815.0 boots and works] - 12V 2.5A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm - 1 sodimm ddr2 - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Dell RxxL Rx0L thin client *R00L Cloud PC of Wyse WSM *R10L Wyse Thin OS *R50L Suse Linux Enterprise *R90L Win XP Embedded *R90LW Win Embedded Standard 2009 *R90L7 Win Embedded Standard 7 | <!--IDE-->128Mb IDE or 1GB | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|SATA Hyperdisk}} | <!--Gfx-->AMD 690E RS690M Radeon Xpress 1200 1250 1270 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 usb2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit AMD Sempron™ 210U SMG210UOAX3DVE 1.5GHz SB600, up to 4GB single slot 240-pin DDR2 DIMM, 19v barrel psu, DEL key bios - Late 2012 2 data sockets added but only CN18 be used with two white sockets (CN13 & CN15) can used to power the SATA device "4-pin Micro JST 1.25mm |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 390 sff small form factor - mt mini tower desktop - dt full desktop | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|1 pci-e}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|realtek}} | <!--Test Distro-->aros one 1.6 usb | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit dual i3 2xxx - kettle iec plug psu cable - add nvidia gf218 gfx - error code 3 mobo or cpu - |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 3010 sff small form factor | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|1 pci-e}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom 57XX}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit dual i3 3xxx - kettle iec plug psu cable - |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 7010 sff small form factor | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|1 pci-e}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom or Intel 825xx}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit dual i3 3xxx Q77 - kettle iec plug psu cable - add pci-e ethernet and nvidia gf218 gfx - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 5010 thin client ThinOS D class (D10D D00D D00DX, Dx0D), PCoIP (D10DP) or D90D7, 5040 *username: Administrator, admin, [blank] *password: Fireport, DellCCCvdi, rappot, Wyse#123, Administrator, administrator, r@p8p0r+ | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE mode may need 30cm ext cable as small area for half-slim sata ssd - decased new ssd??}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d 1400x1050 HD6250E IGP by using DVI to hdmi cable and 1 display port, no hdmi port}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD 6.34 audio chipset detected but codec alc269 working from one case speaker - none if v6.29 used}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|most 5010 have 4 USB 2.0 but D90Q7 has 2 USB3 instead}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8168 8169 - rev 1.?? 8111? - rev 1.91 8111E}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit slow AMD G-T44R 1.2Ghz later G-T48E 1.4Ghz Dual Bobcat Brazos BGA413 - Del for BIOS - p key to select boot with noacpi - single DDR3 sodimm slot max 4Gb, (8Gb hynix 2rx8 ddr3l)? (remove small board to upgrade) - passive no fan - 15cm/6" small 1ltr case and lack of expansion options - PA16 19v barrel psu Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 7010 DTS thin client (Z class Zx0D) *2011 Zx0 Z90D7 2GF/2GR *2013 Z10D *2014 Z50D 2GF/2GR *2012 Cisco VXC 6000 CVXC-6215-K9 white | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|Bios set Sata mode to IDE mode and grub boot add 'noacpi' for half slim sata2 ssd or/with 50cm sata ext cable}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d HD6310 6320 Terascale 2 through DVI and DP 1.1a - no 3d support r600 and no hdmi port}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio 6.34 detected but ALC269VB codec works on the one case speaker only}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|2.0 works but NEC 720200 3.0 not detected but sometimes works like 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111e 8111F}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 and Aros One 1.5, 1.9 and 2.3 usb | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 slow cores AMD G-t52R 1.5GHz later G-T56N 1.65 GHz Dual with A50M FCH - 20cm/8" high 1.5ltr larger fanless black plastic case with metal ventilated box inside - 2 desktop DIMM slots max 16GB - miniPCIe CN14 no msata ssd support in bios - PA-16 19v external psu Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm - 2 40cm SMA female WiFi Antenna to IPEX IPX u.fl Ufl Cable pigtail needed - does not like uefi boot devices - |- | <!--Name-->Wyse 7020 Thin Client * 2013 Quad-core AMD GX-420CA 2.0 GHz (25W) - * 2018 Zx0Q Quad-core AMD GX-415GA 1.5 GHz (15W) with Quad display 3dp and 1dvi | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 sata port | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d only for AMD Radeon HD8400E radeonsi (dual display) or AMD Radeon HD 8330E IGP with AMD Radeon E6240 Seymour E6460 (quad display), no hdmi ports}} | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 x USB2.0 works but 2 USB3 issues | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 quad eKabini Jaguar cores - two SODIMM sockets layered in centre of mobo DDR3L RAM - Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm ac psu 9mm plug is too short but 14mm length is fine - 15cm/6" high smaller 1ltr case and lack of expansion options - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse Dx0Q (5020) D90Q8 NJXG4 AMD G-Series | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 sata port | <!--Gfx-->HD 8330E | <!--Audio--> with Realtek codec | <!--USB-->4 x USB2.0 works but 2 USB3 issues | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 Quad-core AMD GX-415GA 1.5 GHz - 2 layered near edge of mobo 204-pin DDR3L SODIMM (bottom one tricky to insert) - 19v Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm - passive no fan - 15cm/6" high smaller 1ltr case and lack of expansion options |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 5060 N07D thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE bios mode for sata2 port}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Vesa 2d - AMD R5E GCN2 IGP Sea Islands thru dp1 with an hdmi adapter no output thru dp2 - no hdmi dvi ports}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio with Realtek ALC231 codec head phones only}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|4 x USB2.0 works but 2 USB3 issues}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 realtek 8169 8111h}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 1.6 usb | <!--Comments-->2017 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 quad GX-424CC 19.5v external psu - CN-0Y62H1 mobo with 2 layered ddr3l 16Gb max sodimm slots at edge of mobo, bottom 0 one blocking - passive no fan so quiet - 15cm/6" high smaller 1ltr case and lack of expansion options - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Wyse 3040 (N10D) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Intel | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 4c4t Intel Cherry Trail x5 Z-8350 (1.44 GHz Quad) - two versions, one is 5V-3A, the other is 12V-2A - 2 GB DDR3L 1600 MHz, 8 GB or 16 GB eMMC flash chip, all soldered down - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Fujitsu Siemens==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="15%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Scenic [http://uk.ts.fujitsu.com/rl/servicesupport/techsupport/ProfessionalPC/Scenic/ScenicE/ScenicE.htm E600] (compact desktop) | | | {{partial|VESA only}} | {{yes|AC97}} | | {{no|Intel PRO/1000}} | {{dunno}} | Nice small, silent PC with good AROS support. |- | Scenic T i845 | {{dunno}} | {{n/a}} | {{n/a}} | {{dunno|Intel AC97}} | {{dunno|UHCI}} | {{dunno|Intel PRO/100}} | Icaros 1.5.2 | AROS does not boot |- | <!--Name-->Futro S200 S210 S220 and later S300 | <!--IDE-->{{yes| compactflash CF card max ??}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 315PRO PCI/AGP }} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 via }} | <!--USB-->{{unk|via uhci and ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|via VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74) }} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - TR5670 Rev 1.4 mother with Transmeta TM5800 cpu - pci socket - single SODIMM socket for DDR memory PC2700S max 512MB - |- | <!--Name-->Futro S400 | <!--IDE-->{{yes| but swap with compactflash CF card already with AROS installed}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS741CX }} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 SiS7018}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|sis uhci and ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|rtl8169 }} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - AMD Geode NX1500 1GHz gets hot - SiS 963L / SiS 741CX chipset - 12V 4.2A 4-pin (DP-003-R) psu - single SODIMM socket for DDR PC2700S max 1G - large case 246 x 48 x 177cms torx screws - pci socket - |- | <!--Name-->FUJITSU Futro S700 and S900 Thin Client (based on mini-ITX motherboard D3003-A12, D3003-C1 lesser variant of [https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/Futro/s900/TechNotes_V3.1_Mini-ITX_D3003-S.pdf D3003-S]) *G-T56N 1.65GHz *G-T40N 1.00GHz *G-T44R 1.20GHz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 sata data socket but mSata | <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 6320, HD 6250, HD 6290 dvi or displayport (DP runs higher) | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->{{yes|two USB2 front sockets and four on the rear}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit AMD slow atom-like and fanless - 20V 2A psu 5.5mm/2.1mm coax (S900) - mSATA 1GB-16GB - 2 DDR3L SODIMM sockets max 8GB tricky to run 1333 MHz on the Futro S900 - proprietary X2 PCI-e - 1 PCI socket but need a right-angle adaptor - |- | <!--Name-->esprimo p420 e85 desktop case | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->Intel 4600 or old Geforce in pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio realtek alc671 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - 16 pin special psu - |- | <!--Name-->esprimo E420 e85+ SFF case | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->Intel 4600 or low profile pci-e card | <!--Audio-->HDAudio realtek alc671 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - 16ish pin special psu - hd under front metal bracket, take front cover off first with 3 tabs - 3 slim pci-e slots - |- | <!--Name-->Futro S520 AMD dual 1.0Ghz codenamed "Steppe Eagle" * GX-210HA @ 1.0GHz * GX-212ZC @ 1.2GHz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->no sata - 4Gb or 16Gb flash memory soldered to the board | <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon HD 8210E (GX210HA) or AMD Radeon R1E (GX212ZC) | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111e | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - smaller than ITX 160mm x 160mm Fujitsu D3314-A11 - 19V 3.4A PSU standard 5.5mm/2.1mm coax plug - 1 ddr3 sodimm slot - |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu Futro S720 ThinClient D3313-B13 D3313-F *2014 64bit AMD GX-217GA 1.65GHz VFY:S0720P8009FR VFY:S0720P8008DE VFY:S0720P4009GB *2015 64bit AMD GX-222GC 2.20GHz VFY:S0720P702BDE VFY:S0720P702BFR all begin VFY:S0720P and end two digit country code | <!--IDE--> {{N/A|}} | <!--SATA--> {{Yes|up to 2 Sata-cable-connector with space in casing so normal SSD/HDD over Sata was running very well on AHCI and IDE-Mode and 2242 mSata}} | <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|use VESA 2D for AMD Radeon HD 8280E IGP ( islands) or later R5E IGP ( islands)}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|HDAudio ALC671 codec partially working, external audio speaker}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|4 rear USB 2.0 but not front 2 USB 3.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8169}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB 2.0 | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit supports AVX and SSE 4.1 - 1 ddr3 Sodimm slot max 8Gb - 19V-20V 2A 5.5mm/2.5mm coax - D3313-B13 stripped down Mini-ITX mobo D3313-S1/-S2/-S3 (eKabini) D3313-S4/-S5/-S6 - SATA data socket can be located under the fins of the cpu heatsink is fanless - mPCIe socket for wireless card - |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu FUTRO S920 D3313-E D3313-G *2016 AMD GX-222GC SOC 2.20GHz Dual *2017 AMD G-Series GX-415GA (1.50 GHz, Quad Core, 2 MB, AMD Radeon™ HD 8330E) *2017 AMD G-Series GX-424CC 2.40 GHz Quad | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{yes|2242 mSata and 1 Sata-cable-connector with space in casing so normal SSD/HDD over Sata possible}} | <!--Gfx--> {{yes|use VESA 2D for Radeon R5E GCN2/3 IGP}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|HDAudio ALC671 codec partially working}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|4 rear USB 2.0, front 2 USB 3.1 downgradable to 2.0 in BIOS setting}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8169}} | <!--Test Distro--> AROS One USB 2.4 | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 so dimm slot with max of 8 GB - 19v barrel psu 5.5mm 2.5mm - SATA data socket can be located under the fins of the heatsink - mPCIe a e keyed socket for wireless card - propetary X2 connector with official raizer to X1 connector - almost silent background noise, not affecting sound quality in any way |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu Thin Client Futro S5011 S7011 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->{{No|Vesa 2D for AMD Vega 3 on 2 dp 1.4}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ALC623 codec}} | <!--USB-->USB3 USB 3.2 Gen 2 front and 3 usb2 rear | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - AMD Ryzen Dual Core R1305G or R1505G 1ltr case - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - TPM 2.0 - 19v 3.42amp round coax or usb-c 20c 3.25a external psu - |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu FUTRO S9011 Thin Client VFY:S9011THU1EIN || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{No|Vesa 2D for AMD Vega 3 on 2 dp 1.4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ALC623 codec}} || <!--USB-->USB3 USB 3.2 Gen 2 front and 3 usb2 rear || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit Ryzen Embedded R1606G - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - TPM 2.0 - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ====HP Compaq==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Compaq presario 7360 | <!--IDE-->{{yes|Working}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|AC97 via}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|issues}} | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Compaq EP Series 6400/10 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{N/A}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|ISA}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 1.1}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{N/A}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Evo D510 | {{yes|Working}} | {{N/A}} | {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | {{yes|AC97}} | {{yes|Working}} | {{yes|Intel PRO/100}} | Icaros 1.5 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Compaq DX2000 MT | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel Extreme 2 (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|detects AC97 but no support for ADI AD1888 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|OHCI/EHCI }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82526EZ e1000}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.51 | <!--Comments-->boots ok but no audio |- | <!--Name-->Compaq DX 2200 | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200] (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{dunno|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|OHCI/EHCI issues }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments-->issues |- | <!--Name--> d230 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|UDMA}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{partial|Intel AC97 (speaker and headphones only, no line-out)}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.4.5 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->HP Pavilion a220n || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|VESA 1024x768 on nVidia GF4 MX with 64MB shared video ram}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ALC650 AC'97 comp.}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8201BL 10/100 LAN}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.5|| <!--Comments-->2004 32bit athlon xp 2600+ Socket 462 / Socket A - 2 dimm ddr pc2700 - |- | <!--Name-->t500 | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|FX5200 (2D; 3D with older driver)}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 ICH4 ALC658D}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|UHCI/EHCI}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8101L 8139}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2012-09-22 | <!--Comments-->2004 |- | <!--Name-->DC7700 | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 2D}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes| ICH8}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|82566DM e1000e}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2013-??-?? | <!--Comments-->2006 Some support at low cost |- | <!--Name-->HP dc 7600 CMT | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ACL 260}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO/1000 GT}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP t5000 thin client series t5500 t5510 t5515 PC538A or PC542A t5700 t5710 Transmeta Crusoe Code Morphing TM 5400 5600 800Mhz | <!--IDE-->128mb to 512MB | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->Ati Radeon 7000M | <!--Audio-->VIA with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|Issues}} | <!--Ethernet-->VIA Rhine 2 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2006 32bit - ddr max 1GB - F10 setup - all t51xx and some t55xx units will not include a SODIMM slot - |- | <!--Name-->HP t5000 thin client series CN700 *HSTNC-002L-TC t5135, t5530 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d 128Mb Via S3 1600 x 1200 32-bit colour | <!--Audio-->AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102 VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit t5135 appears identical to the t5530 except the CPU VIA Esther 400 MHz - RAM 64Mb (? max) - 8 x USB2.0 - 12V 3.33A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm |- | <!--Name-->HP t5720, t5725 HSTNC-001L-TC | <!--IDE-->{{unk| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d SiS741GX 2048 x 1536 32-bit colour | <!--Audio-->AC97 SiS SiS7012 AC'97 | <!--USB-->6 x USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102 VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 8d) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit AMD Geode NX1500 1GHz socketed - RAM 512MB or 1GB, 256MB, 512MB or 1GB - 12V psu - sis DDMA support - custom 1.13 BIOS - pci low profile - |- | <!--Name-->t5000 series VX800 HSTNC-004-TC t5145, t5540, t5545, t5630 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d VIA Chrome9 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio VIA | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|VT6120 VT6121 VT6122 Gigabit (rev 82)}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit - RAM 64Mb (? max) - 8 x USB2.0 - 12V 4.16A Coax: 5.5mm/2.1mm - |- | <!--Name-->t5730w HSTNC-003-TC t5730 | <!--IDE-->{{n/a|ATA 44pin DOM Flash}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d ATI Radeon X1250 2048 x 1536 no 3D | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{Yes|6 x USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 5707M tg3 10/100/1000}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 64bit AMD Sempron 2100+ 1GHz - 1 slot of ddr2 sodimm (Max 2GB) - 12V 4.16A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm - F10 enter bios F12 boot devices - |- | <!--Name-->HSTNC-005-TC gt7720, gt7725 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d AMD RS780G HD 3200 - 2560 x 1600 DVI-D & DVI-H | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->8 x USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5787M}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit AMD Turion Dual Core CPU 2.3GHz - 1 DDR2 200-pin SODIMM - 19V 4.16A Coax 7.4mm/5.0mm (gt7725) - |- | <!--Name-->HP t5740 Thin Client HSTNC-006-TC t5740, t5745, st5742 | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->1 port | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Intel CL40 VGA and DisplayPort connectors}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with IDT codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM57780 Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly build and Icaros | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit Atom N280 - F10 on power up to get into the BIOS screens. F12 brings up the boot options - hp 19V one with a coax connector, outer diameter 4.8mm with inner to be 1.7mm to 1.4mm - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots max 3gb due to 32bit - 1 pci-e slot completely non standard - |- | <!--Name-->t5000 series HSTNC-012-TC VIA Nano u3500 VX900 *t5550 512MB/1GB Windows CE6 R3 *t5565 1GB/1GB HP ThinPro *t5570 2GB/1GB WES 2009 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d VIA ChromotionHD 2.0 GPU Chrome9 | <!--Audio-->VIA 9170 VT1708S codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM57780 Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->32bit - 1 sodimm - 19V 3.42A supply connector standard yellow-tip coax plug 4.8mm/1.8mm "Standard HP Compaq DC Power Plug 4.8mm x 1.5mm / 1.7mm Yellow Tip Connector - |- | <!--Name-->HP t510 Via Eden X2 U4200 HSTNC-012-TC shares features with t5570e, t5565z | <!--IDE-->2G ATA Flash DOM | <!--SATA-->one | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d for Chrome9 VIA ChromotionHD 2.0 gfx}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|VIA VT8237A VT8251 HDA with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|6 USB2 }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit - one slot ddr3 sodimm max 4GB - 19V 3.42A Coax 4.8mm/1.8mm - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP T610 Thin Client and thicker PLUS version | <!--IDE-->{{Maybe|}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 6320 1 dp port 1 dvi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->two USB2 on the front, two USB2 and two USB 3 ports on the rear | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM57780}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD G-T56N A55E - 2 204-pin DDR3 1600MHz SODIMMs PC3-12800 under motherboard via removable panel - 19.5V 3A Coax male 7.4mm/5.0mm + centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP T420 Thin Client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 8180 dvi vga | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->2 front 2 rear USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2015 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD Embedded G-Series GX-209JA SOC (1 GHz, 2 cores) 1GHz - soldered in place 2GB DDR3 - smaller than usual 19.5V 2.31A Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - usb stick internal for storage - E15 BBR - |- | <!--Name-->HP t520 TPC-W016 *AMD GX-212JC 1.2Ghz (2 core) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 m.2 mounting holes for 2242 and 2260 SSDs SATA (not NVME) | <!--Gfx-->Radeon R2E GCN2 IGP Sea Islands | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->2 USB3 front, 4 USB2 back | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 2017 64 bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 1 204-pin DDR3 SODIMM - 19.5V 3.33A 7.4mm Coax with central pin |- | <!--Name-->HP t620 TPC-I004-TC and t620 PLUS (PRO wider version) TPC-I020-TC *AMD G-Series GX-217GA 2 core APU 1.65GHz *AMD GX-415GA | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->single M.2 2242 socket sata only most models, mSATA socket removed end of 2014, | <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 8280E graphics 8330E Islands GCN2 IGP - 2 dp ports no dvi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->4 front, 2 back, 2 inside | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 DDR3L SODIMMs side by side - mSATA ssd and M.2 SSD are M1.6 screws, M2.0 screws used on most SSDs - 19.5V 3.33A Coax male 7.4mm with centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP T530 *AMD GX-215JJ (2 core) 1.5GHz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 m.2 sata ssd up to 2280 | <!--Gfx-->Radeon R2E | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->1 USB3.1, 1 usb-c front, 4 USB2 back | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2015 64 bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 1 204-pin DDR4 SODIMM - smaller 19.5V 2.31A Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP T730 Wider "Thin" Client TPC-I018-TC Pixar RX-427BB (2c4t) - no display and fans blowing full speed caused by '''disabling internal gpu in bios''' flash L43_0116.bin onto smc MX25L6473F (3.3V 8-PIN SOP (200mil) SPI 25xx) ([https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubleshooting-hardware-devices-and-electronics-theory/troubleshooting-desktop-motherboards-graphics-cards-and-pc-peripherals/bios-schematic-requests/96303-hp-t730-password-locked-bios in the rom rcvry socket under a delicate thin narrow surface flap]) with ch341a alike switchable from 5v, 3.3v to 1.8v | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{partial|Storage bios option to IDE and not AHCI to prevent constant install error messages to DH0: - add noacpi to end of grub boot line - 1 M.2 SATA slot (Key B+M) up to 2280 with T8 torx secure stub}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use VESA for non-vulkan Radeon R7 GCN 2 UVD4.2 Sea Islands with 4 dp outs '''but too easy bricking''' if swapping with 1 PCIe 3.0 x8 slot 30W slim factor low profile 8400gs gt210 nvs295 nvs310 gt1030}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDaudio 6.34 realtek alc221 codec thru case speaker only}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|'''Works''' for 4 USB2 in the back with 2 in the front but '''not''' for 2 USB3 ports on front and 1 more internal (not bootable)}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111HSH-CG set up first in Prefs/Network}} | <!--Test Distro-->boots with most AROS One 32bit USB with added noacpi added to grub boot - Latest distros can select grub boot options with Aros One 64bit USB and Aros One USB 2.8 but system seems to freeze after choice | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 DDR3L notebook RAM sodimm stacked slots max 32GB - '''Larger''' 20cm/8" high 3.5ltr case noisy fan - TPM2 - esc/F9 boot selector F10 enter bios - 2 serial and 1 parallel old ports - Key E Wireless - PCIe slot (x16 physical, x8 electrical - 19.5V 4.36A 85w TPC-LA561 HP 7.4mm black-ring-tip power plug, red flashing power button, wrong psu or bad MotherBoard MB - |- | <!--Name-->HP t630 Thin Client TPC-I020-TC *AMD Embedded G-Series SoC GX-420GI quad core 2Ghz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|ahci.device 2 Sata M.2, sata0 up to 2280 (1tb max), sata1 2242 (64gb max), both T8 torx secure stubs}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use VESA for Radeon AMD Wani R7E with 2 displayport 1.2 sockets - no dvi / hdmi}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 6.34 VOID for controller 0x1022 0x157a and not detected ALC255 codec x10ec x0255 aka ALC3234, pins 0x17 as LFE and 0x1b as int speaker}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2 2 front and 2 rear but not 2 front USB3 and 1 inside}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169 8111H}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB 2.2 | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 DDR4 SODIMMs side by side speed 1866Mhz limit - 19.5V 3.33A 65W TPC-BA54 Coax male 7.4mm with centre pin - can be easily bricked, might reflash bios with M40 SP149736 - 20cm/8" high 1.5ltr larger fanless case - esc f1 f9 f10 - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq Elite 7200 7300 8200 8300 SFF with kettle IEC psu cable | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE ata legacy only in BIOS}} | <!--Gfx-->i pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|8200 works}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel or Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit dual core - add pci-e rtl8169 ethernet card and pci-e gf210 nvidia low height - |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq Pro 6305 Small Form Factor SFF AMD A75 chipset (FCH 6 SATA 6 Gb/s, 4 USB 3.0) *AMD Quad A10-5800B *AMD A8-5500B *AMD Dual A6-5400B *AMD A4-5300B | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 7000 Terascale iGPU series Radeon HD 7660D, Radeon HD 7560D, Radeon HD 7540D, Radeon HD 7480D | <!--Audio-->HD ALC221 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 5761}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Elitedesk 705 G1 - SFF *AMD A10-8850B, Quad-Core A10 PRO-7850B, A10-8750B *AMD A10-7800B, A10 PRO-6800B, A8-7600B *AMD A8-8650B, A6-8550B *AMD A6-8350B, Dual A6 PRO 7400B, A4-7300B | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D with Radeon R7 or 8000}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD audio with Realtek ALC221 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom or Intel}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - T15 security torx psu with 6pin PWR 200W connector - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteDesk 705 G2, 705 G3 Mini PC USFF thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2.5in and m.2 | <!--Gfx-->Radeon R7 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5762 GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit AM4 socket with 35W TDP A10-8770E (4c), AMD PRO A6-8570E (2c), AMD Pro A6-9500E, or AMD PRO A10-9700E on AMD B300 FCH - ddr4 sodimm slots - 77 x 175 x 34mm (6.97 x 6.89 x 1.34in) 1L and about 3lbs - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteDesk 705 G4 Mini 1ltr USFF AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (4c t) or 5 2400G (4c t) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Nvme 2280 and 2.5in sata}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 thru DP1.2 port | <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio Conexant codec}} | <!--USB-->USB2 usb3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit Am4 socket - 2 sodimm 16GB max - 19.5v hp socket ext psu - |- | <!--Name-->Elitedesk 705 G4 35w, Elitedesk 705 G4 65w, HP Prodesk 405 G4 35W USFF - AMD Athlon PRO 200GE (2c 4t), 2200GE (4c t) or 2400GE (4c t) on AMD B350 FCH, Elitedesk 705 G5 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Nvme 2280 and older models 2.5in sata}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 3, 8 or 11 with 2 dp1.2 ports | <!--Audio-->HD audio with Conexant CX20632 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111EPH 1Gbe or Realtek RTL8111F | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - realtek wifi 8821 or 8822 - up to 1 ddr4 dimm slots - 12v up to 180w ac - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitedesk 806 G6, Prodesk 405 G6 3400GE Ryzen 5 PRO 3350GE (4c 8t), Ryzen 3 PRO 3200GE 3150GE (4c 4t), AMD Athlon Silver PRO 3125GE (2c 4t) on AMD PRO 565 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2x NVMe or 1x SATA + 1x NVMe, but not all three drives at the same time without serious modding of hd caddie || <!--Gfx-->Vega with DP1.4 port || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC3205 codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->HP t540 1ddr4 slot, t640 2 DDR4 SDRAM sodimm SO-DIMM 260-pin non-ECC max 32gb thin client USFF | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 NVM Express (NVMe) 2230 or 2280 | <!--Gfx-->Vega 3 VGA, DisplayPort | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->2 USB3 gen1 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek Realtek RTL8111HSH or RTL8111E PH-CG | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit ryzen r1000 series Ryzen Embedded R1305G 1.5 GHz, R1505G dual (2c 4t) 2.0Ghz or R1606G ?.?Ghz (2c4t) - Realtek RTL8852AE wifi - 45W psu Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP t740 SFF Thin Client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 M.2, one is sata and other nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 DisplayPort or + optional pci-e 30W Radeon E9173 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E PH-CG 1Gbe | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - Ryzen Embedded V1756B 3.25Ghz quad - 90W 19.5V 4.62A psu Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - sodimm DDR4 max 64Gb - slightly noisy fan - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteDesk 805 G6 Mini 4750GE (8t 16t), Prodesk 405 G6 Ryzen 5 PRO 4650GE (6c 12t) or Ryzen 3 PRO 4350GE (4c 8t) on AMD PRO 565 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2.5in carrier and 2 slots m.2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 with DP1.4 and HDMI flex io2 output options | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC3205 codec | <!--USB-->4 usb a - gen 2 10gig and gen 1 5gig ports | <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit AMD Ryzen 4000 SBC unlocked - 2 sodimm ddr4 slots - wifi6 - 90W ac - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Lenovo==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo Nettop IdeaCentre Q150 (40812HU) | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio--> realtek codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->intel 10/100 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit D510 |- | <!--Name-->M625q Tiny (1L) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->M.2 Sata | <!--Gfx-->Stoney Radeon R2, R3 or R4 and later R5 with 2 dp ports | <!--Audio-->HD audio with ALC233-VB2-CG codec 0x10EC 0x0233 | <!--USB-->{{No|3 usb3.1 Gen 1 and 3 usb2}} | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit all dual cores - e2-9000e or a4-9120e later A9-9420e - heatsink covers 70% area covers wifi - 65w or 135w lenovo rectangle ac - 1 ddr4 2666MHz slot max 8gb - tpm 2.0 - |- | <!--Name-->M715q Gen 1 AMD A6 A8 A10-9700E 9770E (2c2t) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 | <!--Gfx-->R4 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->M715q Gen 2 Ryzen 5 PRO 2400GE 4C 8T | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 | <!--Gfx-->Vega 11 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - f1 enter setup, esc device boot - fixed 1.8v ch341a needed to reflash 1.8v bios if no boot SOP8 DIP8 Winbond W25Q64, MXIC MX25U1635, MX25U6435 - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkCenter M75n nano Ryzen3 3300U | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->ThinkCentre M75q M75q-1 Tiny 1ltr TMM AMD Ryzen 5 PRO Quad 3500 Pro 3400GE (4c 8t) 11a5 soe400, 3200GE (2c 4t) zen1+ 11a4 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|NVMe 2280 1Tb max - untested 2.5inch}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 11 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio codec | <!--USB-->3 USB3 Gen 1 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 65w 20v 3.25A to 135W rectangle psu - 2 sodimm ddr4 sodimm max 32GB locked 2666MHz - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkCentre Ryzen 7 PRO Tiny 1ltr Gen 2 AMD 4000 series 4650GE (6c12t) 4750GE (8c16t) 4350G (4c8t) Zen2 - | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|NVme}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit vendor locked - 20v psu - 2 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkcenter M75q-2 Gen2 refresh | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Radeon Vega | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GigE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 5650GE (6c12t) 5750GE (8c16t) - vendor/PSB can lock your AMD CPU - f12 boot devices |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Thinkcentre M75q Tiny Gen5 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} | <!--SATA-->2 NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 780M dp1.4a or hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 usb-c | <!--Ethernet-->1GBe port | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2024 Ryzen PRO 7 8700GE - 90W yellow rectangle connector psu - 2 DDR5 sodimm slots max 128Gb - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |} ====Misc==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Impart impact Media Group IQ Box mini Digital Signage with MB896 mini itx | <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->GMA 915 gme | <!--Audio--> via audio | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - 1 ddr2 slot - pentium m 1.73GHz - |- | <!--Name-->[https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_mini/specs/mac_mini_cd_1.83-specs.html Apple A1176 Intel MacMini1,1] | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{unk|gpt/efi }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|gma950 2d and 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ICH7 [https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/186749 Sigmatel Stac 9221] [https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/msm/+/android-wear-5.1.1_r0.6/sound/pci/hda/patch_sigmatel.c codec][https://alsa-devel.alsa-project.narkive.com/Yt20W6cE/sigmatel-stac9221-mux-amp-out-0x02-microphone-not-working mic]}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2006 32bit possible 1.83 GHz Intel “Core Duo” (T2400) - swap pci-e wifi for atheros 5k AR5007EG - maybe hack with a 2,1 firmware - max 4GB Ram ddr2 sodimms - external apple psu - dvd boot only with c key - |- | <!--Name-->[https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_mini/specs/mac-mini-core-2-duo-1.83-specs.html Apple A1176 Intel Mac Mini2,1] | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{unk|gpt/efi }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|gma950 2d and 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ICH7 Sigmatel Stac 9221 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} | <!--Test Distro-->Aros One 2.0/ Icaros (latest beta) | <!--Comments-->2007 64bit - swap pci-e wifi for atheros 5k AR5007EG - hacked with a 2,1 firmware and replaced the cpu for T7600 2.33 Ghz C2D and max 4GB Ram ddr2 sodimms - external apple psu - dvd boot only via c key |- | <!--Name-->Apple iMac 5,1 "Core 2 Duo" 1.83GHz 17" T5600 MA710LL || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 with 64Mb || <!--Audio-->HDAudio idt codec || <!--USB-->3 USB2 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit - 2 ddr2 667MHz sodimm slots - 17.0" TFT widescreen 1440x900 - polycarbonate |- | <!--Name-->Apple iMac 6,1 "Core 2 Duo" 2.16 2.33 24" only T7400 T7600 aka MA456LL/A A1200 (EMC 2111) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia 7300GT with 128 MB of GDDR3 SDRAM PCI Express or GeForce 7600GT with 256Mb mini dvi, vga || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->3 USB2 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit - 2 ddr2 667MHz sodimm slots - 24.0" TFT widescreen 1920 x 1200 - polycarbonate plastic case iMacs of this generation are the most difficult iMacs to service due to their front bezel design |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA2 | <!--IDE-->flash "DiskOnModule" | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->S3 Inc ProSavage PM133 (rev 02) vga | <!--Audio-->VIA VT82C686 AC97 Audio | <!--USB-->USB | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8139 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - VIA Ezra 800MHz - 2 PC100 sodimm slots - riser board carries an ISA slot and a PCI slot - external 12V power supply.with 4 pins - |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA5 Capio One | <!--IDE-->44pin DiskOnModule | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->SiS550 vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with SiS7019 codec | <!--USB-->USB1.1 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8139 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - internal power supply with mains lead has a "clover leaf" style - 2 144-pin PC100 or PC133 SODIMM might have 24MB of RAM soldered - |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA10 *E140 model BL-XX-XX (800MHz CPU) later *E100 model BK-XX-XX (1GHz CPU) | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA VT8623 (Apollo CLE266) vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with | <!--USB-->4 USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102/VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 74) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2004/5 32bit - 12v 5.5mm/2.1mm - 2 184-pin DDR DIMM - |- | <!--Name-->VXL Itona thin client *TC3200, *TC3x41 (P3VB-VXL) TC3541 TC3641 TC3841, *TC3xx1 (6VLE-VXL0) TC3931, *TC43xx (Gigabyte C7V7VX) TC4321 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA vga | <!--Audio-->AC'97 Audio with VIA VT | <!--USB-->VIA USB | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8100B | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2005 2006 32bit VIA Samuel 2, VIA C3 Nehamiah CPU, 1 DIMM slot, internal psu, |- | <!--Name-->Neoware Capio C50, model CA15 Thin Clients] *Login Administrator Password Administrator *Login User Password User | <!--IDE-->1 flash DiskOnModule | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA VT8623 (Apollo CLE266) vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with via codec | <!--USB-->USB | <!--Ethernet-->VIA | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2006 32bit VIA Eden (Samuel II core) CPU - 1 ddr sodimm slot max 512mb - slot - internal psu clover leaf - |- | <!--Name-->[http://etoy.spritesmind.net/neowareca21.html Neoware CA21 Thin Clients] Igel 3210 (and maybe the Clientron G270) *Login Administrator Password Administrator *Login User Password User | <!--IDE-->1 flash DiskOnModule | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA CN700 vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with via codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit VIA C3 Nehemiah instead of Ezra-T - made 2 version of the CA 21, one with an Award bios and one with a Phoenix bios - 1 ddr2 sodimm slot max 1gb - VT6656 wireless - slot - internal psu iec - |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA22 (e140), part number DD-L2-GE with BCOM WinNET P680 (V4) as the Igel 4210LX (Igel 5/4) | <!--IDE-->1 VIA VT82C586A/B VT82C686/A/B VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA CN700 P4M800 Pro CE VN800 Graphics [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01) vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with codec | <!--USB-->USB2 VIA VT8237R Plus | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102/VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - VIA Esther to later C7 1GHz - 1 ddr2 sodimm slots max 512mb - +12V DC/4.16A/50W 5.5mm/2.1mm coaxial - |- | <!--Name-->10Zig RBT402, Clientron U700, | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|44 pin header very little room}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A|}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Partial|VESA dvi}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|VIA }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - very small cases with very limited expansion - 1 sodimm 2GB max - 12v 3a psu - Password Fireport |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Dell Optiplex FX170 D05U thin client, 10Zig 56xx range 5602, 5616v, 5617v, 5672v, Clientron U800, Devon IT TC5, | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|44 pin header very little room}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A|}} | <!--Gfx-->{{partial|GMA 950 dvi}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit - very small cases with very limited expansion - 1 ddr2 sodimm 2GB max - 12v 3a psu - Password Fireport - ps2 keyboard socket - |- | <!--Name-->10Zig RBT-616V or Chip PC Technologies EX-PC (model number XPD4741) | <!--IDE-->{{unk|44 pin header very little room}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A|}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 950}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|HD Audio with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|rtl8169}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit N270 on NM10 with ICH7 - very small cases with very limited expansion - 1 sodimm 2GB max - 12v 4a psu - Password Fireport |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Brix GS-A21S-RH (rev. 1.0) SFF | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|X3100}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC883-GR codec}} | <!--USB-->Intel USB | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82566DC}} | <!--Test Distro-->ICAROS 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit Intel GME965 chipset with Intel ICH8M - 2 DDR2 Dimm slots - GA-6KIEH2-RH Rev.1.x mini ITX Case 213mm(D) x 64mm(W) x 234mm(H) - custom psu - |- | <!--Name-->VXL Itona MD+24 MD27 MD54 MD64 MD76 thin client | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->VIA Chrome 9 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA VT | <!--USB-->VIA | <!--Ethernet-->VIA | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit VIA X2 U4200 - 12v-19v barrel psu - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Revo 100 RL100 AMD Athlon II X2 K325 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® ION™ 9300m || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC662 codec || <!--USB-->USB2 1 front 2 back || <!--Ethernet-->NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2010 64bit but no AVX - 4Gb DDR3 sodimm - 500 GB - 19v 3.42a 65W - dvd but later BD drive - |- | <!--Name-->Asrock ION 330 330Pro HT-BD, Foxconn NT-330i, Zotac ION F (IONITX mini itx), | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ION geforce 9400}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Nvidia USB}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Nvidia }} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit slow atom cpu - 2.5L 8" by 8" plastic case - 2 ddr2 sodimm max 4G - external 19v 65W 3.42A Plug 5.5mm X 2.5mm - little whiny fan - |- | <!--Name-->Zotac ZBOXHD-ND01 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION1 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->NVidia | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Zotac ZBOX HD-ID11 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with ALC888 codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111D | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 |- | <!--Name-->ZOTAC ZBOX Blu-ray 3D ID36 Plus | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->sata | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->2 USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->GbE | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Shuttle XS35GT || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ION || <!--Audio-->HD audio IDT92HD81 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|JMC261}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - Atom™ D510 NM10 - DDR2 |- | <!--Name-->Shuttle XS35GT V2 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ION2 || <!--Audio-->HD audio IDT92HD81 || <!--USB-->Intel || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|JMC251}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit Atom™ D525 NM10 chipset - DDR3 |- | <!--Name-->Sapphire Edge-HD || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ION2 GT218 with vga and hdmi || <!--Audio-->HDAudio realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - Atom™ D510 NM10 - DDR2 65 W AC, DC 19V~3.42A, 19.3L x 14.8w x 2.2H cm (1l), weight 530g, |- | <!--Name-->Sapphire Edge-HD2 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|nouveau ION2 GT218 with vga and hdmi 2d and 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|Intel USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit Atom™ D525 NM10 chipset - DDR3 |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.jetwaycomputer.com/JBC600C99352W.html Jetway JBC600C99352W] | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio-->{{No|C-Media CM108AH}} | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111DL | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit D525 - DDR3 - 12v psu |- | <!--Name-->Foxconn nT-A3550 A3500 AMD A45 Chipset DDR3 Nettop Barebones - White | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 slot | <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon HD6310 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 USB2 back and 2 USB3 front | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD Dual-core E350 1.6GHz CPU - 1 ddr3 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Asus EeeBox PC EB1021 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD6320M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE1 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit - AMD® Brazos E-350 SFF or E-450 with A50M - 2 ddr3l so-dimm - 40W ac - |- | <!--Name-->Xi3 Piston PC Athlon64 X2 3400e (X5A), AMD R-464L quad (X7A) Z3RO NUC | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->AMD mobility HD3650 to radeon HD 7660G | <!--Audio--> codec | <!--USB-->4 USB2 3 USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8161}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 - 2 sodimm 8GB max - 19v 3.3a round - Titan105 bios update - |- | <!--Name-->Sapphire Edge-HD3 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD6320M with vga and hdmi || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC662 codec || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE1 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD® Brazos E-450 with A45M - ddr3l so-dimm - 65W ac - Wireless is Realtek 8191SU WiFi (802.11n) or AzureWave (802.11bgn) - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Samsung Syncmaster Thin Client Display TC-W Series 24" LF24 TOWHBFM/EN TC220W LED LF22TOW HBDN/EN || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->8gb SSD || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe| VESA mode only Radeon HD 6290}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->2 USB 2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 thin Client C-50 C50 AMD® 1000 MHz and no wireless |- | <!--Name-->Advantech TPC-2140 thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 atom-like G-T56E 1.65Ghz up to SSE3, BGA413 soldered - |- | <!--Name-->CompuLab FIT-PC3 fitPC3 USFF PC AMD G-T56N || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->RADEON HD 6320 || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio ALC888 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 8111}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64 bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 12v 3a - 2x sodimm DDR3 max 4GB - wifi rtl8188ce |- | <!--Name-->10Zig 6872 thin client | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 atom-like G-T56N up to SSE3 BGA413 (FT1) soldered - DDR3l single channel - |- | <!--Name-->10ZiG 7800q thin client | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon 5E 3840 x 2160 @ 30Hz to 2560 x 1600 @ 60Hz 2 x Display Port | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->6 x USB2.0 2 x USB3.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD GX-424CC (Quad Core) 2.4GHz BGA769 (FT3b) SSE4 and AVX - 1 ddr3 sodimm - 12V 4A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm |- | <!--Name--> *Itona VXL MZE12 AMD a4-5000 thin client *VXL Itona LQ27 LQ+27 LQ44 LQ+44 LQ49 LQ+49 LQ50 LQ+50 LQ64 LQ+64 thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Ati 8330 vga hdmi dp | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 usb2 2 usb3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit quad BGA769 (FT3) soldered - 2 stacked sodimm ddr3 middle of mobo - 2 m.2 sata slots - 1 sata short cable half size space - limited 1ltr 8in case no fan - 19v hp style psu connector - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 5212 21.5" AIO Thin Client W11B | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Sata | <!--Gfx-->R3 out from DP or vga | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2015 64bit slow atom like dual core AMD G-T48E 1.4 GHz - dell type round ac needed 90W 19.5V 4.62A - 21 inch 1080p screen - |- | <!--Name-->LG 24CK560N-3A 24' All-in-One Thin Client Monitor, 27CN650N-6N 27CN650W-AC 27', 34CN650W-AC 34', | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2018 64bit AMD Prairie Falcon GX-212JJ |- | <!--Name-->CompuLab fit-PC4 fitPC4 4x 2Ghz AMD || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64 - 2x DDR4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->IGEL Hedgehog M340C UD3 thin client *2016 V1.0 AMD GX-412HC 1.2GHz-1.6GHz Radeon R3E, normal bios DEL for Bios or F12 boot selector *2018 AMD GX-424CC 2.4GHz, Radeon R5E, UEFI hit DEL and choose boot or SCU icon | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->SATA half slim version '''limited space''' with msata slot on earlier 2016 models | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Radeon R3E later R5E sea islands vulkan 1.2 with dvi dp output}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec ?? (412) and Realtek ALC662-VD0-GR (424), both case speaker}} | <!--USB-->amd usb3 boot usb2 with bios "disable usb" entry | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169 8111 (412) and (424)}} | <!--Test Distro-->Aros One x86 USB 1.5, 1.8 and 2.2 | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 20cm/8" high case - 1 DDR3L sodimm slot max 8Gb 1600MHz - external '''12V 3A''' supply with 5.5mm/2.1mm coaxial - IDE like interface under base stand is for legacy addon ports RS232 parallel etc - capacitive touch power on - case opening 3 stages, remove stand and narrow black plastic strip from the back, top cover slides off to the back and lifts off - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->IGEL UD3 M350C (UEFI issues) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->None but 8gb emmc | <!--Gfx-->Vega 3 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek ALC897 or ALC888S codec | <!--USB-->USB 3.2 and 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - AMD Ryzen™ R R1505G Dual-Core 10W TDP - 2 DDR4 sodimms slots max 16Gb - 12V 4A psu - 2x DisplayPort 1.2 no dvi or hdmi - Intel® 9260 or SparkLAN WNFT-238AX wifi - 1x rear serial Prolific PL2303 chipset - locked down components and very limited expansion options - |- | <!--Name-->IGEL UD7 H860C AMD Ryzen V1605B Thin Client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 AMD Ryzen™ Embedded V1605B 2 – 3.6 GHz (Quad-Core) - 12v 5A psu - up to 16GB RAM DDR4 - locked down components and very limited expansion options - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Brix Barebone Mini PC BSRE-1605 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 M.2 | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC269 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->2 GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit AMD Ryzen V1605B - 2 DDR4 sodimm slots |- | <!--Name-->EliteGroup LIFA Q3 Plus | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit AMD Ryzen Embedded V1000, V1605B - |- | <!--Name-->MINISFORUM Deskmini UM250 Mini PC | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit AMD Ryzen V1605B - |- | <!--Name-->Shuttle DA320 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->R3 R5 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC662 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->dual realtek 1GbE 8111H | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Opinion-->2017 64bit AMD 2200G 2400G - Robust metal 1.3-liter case - A320 chipset DDR4 - 19V 6.32A DC PSU - |- | <!--Name-->T-Bao MN25 Mini PC 2500U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Unk|Intel NVMe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA Radeon Vega 8}} | <!--Audio-->{{Unk| }} | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek PCIe 1GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Minis Forum M200 Silver Athlon M300 3300U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1 and 2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek PCIe 2.5G}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Minis Forum DeskMini UM300 3300U, UM350 DMAF5 3550H, UM370 and UM700 with 3750H | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1 and 2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek PCIe 2.5G}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit |- | <!--Name-->MinisForum X300 with AMD 3400G | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1 and 2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek PCIe 2.5G}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Beelink SER3 GTR4 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega 3 or 10 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RJ45 1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit 3200u or 3750h |- | <!--Name-->Beelink SER4 GTR5 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->cant boot from installed SSDs unless its an M.2 | <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->1 or 2 Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 4700U or 5900HX |- | <!--Name-->MSI PRO DP20Z 5M Mini PC - AMD Ryzen 5 5300G | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 2.5G LAN RTL8125}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->R3 3200G Vega 8 - R5 3400G Vega 11 - Ryzen 5 5600G Vega 7 - Athlon 3000G |- | <!--Name-->Minisforum UM450 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 2.5G LAN RTL8125}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - Ryzen 4500U - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Brix GB-BRR7-4800 (rev. 1.0) GB-BRR7-4700 (rev. 1.0) GB-BRR5-4500 (rev. 1.0) GB-BRR3-4300 (rev. 1.0) | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 2.5G LAN RTL8125 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS PN50 mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 4700U | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|3.1 gen1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|realtek 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS PN51-S1 mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 5700U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Vega thru dp or hdmi | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|3.1 gen1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|realtek 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 19v or 19.5v 90w psu round barrel - 32gb ddr4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Minis Forum Bessstar Tech EliteMini B550 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 x 2.5in and 2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{no|4 usb3.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|realtek 8125 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit AMD 4700G 5700G desktop cpu - 19v 120w round barrel - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock A300 and later X300 Mini itx with Desktop AM4 socket | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - choose your own AMD APU GE 35w based - DDR4 - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock 4x4 BOX-5800U Zen 3-based AMD Ryzen 7 5800U 15W - | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 slot gen 3 and sata | <!--Gfx-->vega | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|1 GbE and 1 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - WiFi 6E - |- | <!--Name-->Topton S500+ Gaming Mini PC - Morefine S500+ 5900HX Mini PC - Minisforum UM590 Ryzen AMD Zen3 Ryzen 9 5900HX 7 5800H 45W - | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme 1 sata | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 thru HDMI 2.0, DP 1.4, and USB type-C | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{no|usb3.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|1 realtek rtl 8111h and 1 8125 2.5GbE bg-cg}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 2 sodimm ddr4 3200MHz - |- | <!--Name-->Chuwi RzBox later Ubox | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 later to 660m vga, dp, hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->{{No|usb-c usb2}} | <!--Ethernet-->dual gigabit | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 2025 64bit amd 5800h 4800h 6600H - 90w psu - |- | <!--Name-->Beelink Mini PC SER5, Trigkey AZW S5, Asus PN52, ZHI BEN MX-JB560, | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->PCIe3 M.2 2280 nvme | <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega 6 with 1 or 2 hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->{{No|USB3.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 1GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 5500U 5560u 5600U to PRO 5600H 5800H - 19v 3.42W 65W psu - |- | <!--Name-->NIPOGI Kamrui ACEMAGICIAN AM06PRO Dual LAN Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, 5 5500U or 5600U/5625U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->M.2 and 2.5in sata | <!--Gfx-->Vega 7 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->2 GbE ports | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - plastic build - 90w usb-c power - loud at 25W setting - |- | <!--Name-->Topton FU02 Fanless Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 4700U 5600U 5800U 8 Core 16 Threads | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe and 2.5in sata | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->4 3.0 with 2 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->2 x 1G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64 - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - fanless with copper cube from cpu to metal sheet which gets warm |- | <!--Name-->Xuu XR1 Lite (5300u 4c 8t) PRO 5400U MAX 5600U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 NVMe 2242 slot | <!--Gfx-->Vega 6 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->2 3.0 | <!--Ethernet-->1G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64 quiet fan - very small case no expansions - |- | <!--Name-->MINISFORUM UM690 Venus Series | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->pcie4 nvme 2280 and 1 sata3 2.5in | <!--Gfx-->680m RNDA2 12CU with 2 hdmi | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|1 USB4 and 2 USB3.2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|2.5G LAN}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 6900hx 8C16T - 2 ddr5 sodimmm - 19v ???W - |- | <!--Name-->Beelink Mini PC GTR6 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->PCIe4 | <!--Gfx-->AMD 680M RDNA2 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->USB3.2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 2.5GbE or intel i225}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit Ryzen 9 6900HX Zen3+ and a 2gb Radeon 680m 12CU ddr5 sodimm - 19v 120w psu - |- | <!--Name-->Asus PN53, Geekom AS 6, | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->pcie gen4 nvme and ata 2.5in | <!--Gfx-->680m RNDA2 12CU with 2 hdmi and 1 dp | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|2 usb-c, 2 USB2.1 and 3 USB3.2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|1G LAN}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 6900hx 8C 16T - 2 slots ddr5 sodimmm (64Gb max) - 19v 120W - 4 retained base screws beware ribbon cable - |- | <!--Name-->Micro Computer (HK) Tech Ltd MinisForum UM773 Lite later UM750L slim, GMKtec K2 Mini PC | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe PCIe4.0 | <!--Gfx-->RDNA | <!--Audio-->HD Audio | <!--USB-->USB4 | <!--Ethernet-->2.5GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2023 2025 64bit - AMD Zen 3+ (8c 16t) Ryzen 7 7735HS, 7840HS and AMD Ryzen 9 7845HX AMD Ryzen™5 7545U (6c12t) - 19v up to 120w ac adapter - ddr5 sodimm 4800Mhz - |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.asrockind.com/en-gb/4x4 ASrock 4x4 SBC] | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->sata or nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega or 680M | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 or USB4 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 1GbE or intel 2.5GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Beelink Mini PC GTR7 SER7 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->PCIe4 nvme 2280 up to 2Tb | <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M RDNA3 GPU output on hdmi and dp | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3.2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|1 or 2 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2023 64bit AMD Phoenix APUs Zen 4 CPU Ryzen 7 7840HS or 9 7940HS (8c 16t) - 19v 5.26A 120w psu - del dios setup f7 choose boot - 2 thunderbolt-type usb-c on back - up to 64gb via 2 ddr5 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->MINISFORUM BD770i Ryzen 7 7745HX (8c16t) or BD795i SE 790i 9 7945HX (16c32t) or F1FXM_MB_V1.1 795M LGA1700 mATX | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 610m over usb-c, dp or hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 with 2 rear USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 2.5G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Opinion-->2024 mini-ITX M/B is the first MoDT (Mobile on Desktop) with soldered AMD CPU - 2 dual PCIe4.0 M.2 slots - 2 ddr5 sodimm slots max 5200Mhz - 8pin cpu power - battery not easily replaceable underneath - |- | <!--Name-->mINISORUM ms-a1 MS-a2 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->AMD 610M | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->dual 2.5GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2024 64bit - 19v ?A round barrel jack - 2 ddr5 so-dimm slots - choose from 5700G to 8700G apu - |- | <!--Name-->NextSBC 7840HS | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Nvme | <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M 12CU | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec | <!--USB-->USB4 and USB 3.2 | <!--Ethernet-->2 GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - 32Gb soldered - |- | <!--Name-->Minisforum UM870 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVme || <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M || <!--Audio-->HDaudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->2.5GbE || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Server Systems=== [[#top|...to the top]] ====IBM==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="15%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->xSeries 206m | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ATI RN50b (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{n/a}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0 (UHCI/EHCI)}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2014-09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Motherboard=== [[#top|...to the top]] * Late 2002, USB2.0 added and slightly better AROS sound support (AC97) appeared * 2002-2005 and still, to a limited extent, ongoing [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague bad capacitors] * Late 2003, ATX PSUs moved from 5V to 12v rails (extra 4pin on motherboard for CPU) * Late 2005, PCI Express replaced AGP and HDAudio replaced AC97 * Late 2007, ATX PSUs added extra 12V PCI-E connectors and 4+4pin for CPUs * Late 2010, USB3.0 appears on motherboards or needing a PCI-E motherboard slot * Late 2014 Hardware USB2 removed from USB3 chipsets ====AMD==== [[#top|...to the top]] =====Socket 7 (1997/1999)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->1997 VT82C586B (QFP-208) is the first from VIA with DDMA |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2000 VT82C686 has close to excellent DDMA support |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->SiS 5581/5582 SiS 5591/5595 SiS 530 /5595 SiS 600/5595 SiS 620/5595 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket A 462 (2001/4)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/motherboards/article.php/2217921/ABIT-NF7-S-nForce2-Motherboard-Review.htm Abit NF7-S] | <!--Chipset-->nForce 2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->SIL 3112A | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650 AC97 (Nvidia APU)}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL 8201LB | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Realtek RTL8801B |- | <!--Name-->ASRock K7NF2 | <!--Chipset-->nforce2 ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|AGP 8x}} | <!--Audio-->CMedia CMI 9761A AC'97 | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8201 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock K7S8X | <!--Chipset-->SIS 746FX | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|AGP 8x}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC'97 cmedia}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB2.0 works but does not boot}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|SiS900}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock K7S41GX | <!--Chipset-->SIS 741GX + DDR 333 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|onboard sis does not work with vga or vesa but AGP 8x works}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 SIS 7012}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB2.0 works but does not boot}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|SiS 900}} | <!--Opinion-->works ok |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.asus.com ASUS A7N8X] | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->Silicon Image Sil 3112A | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ac97 ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|ehci USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8201BL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->first total support for AROS in 2004/5 - damocles and M Schulz |- | <!--Name-->Biostar M7NCD | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650 AC97}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8201BL}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Chaintech 7NJS Ultra Zenith | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Promise PDC 20376 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|CMI8738}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->DFI Lanparty NF2 Ultra | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|via ac97 VT1616}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8139C | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ECS N2U400-A | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|Cmedia 9379A AC97}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|usb2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|VIA VT6103L}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA7N400L | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP 8x slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 ALC650}} | <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8100C | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.gigabyte.lv/products/page/mb/ga-8siml Gigabyte 8SIML] | <!--Chipset-->SIS 650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC'97}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|working}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Realtek RTL8100L LAN}} | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Matsonic [http://www.elhvb.com/mobokive/archive/matsonic/manual/index.html Manuals] MS83708E | <!--Chipset-->SIS730 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|SiS 5513}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|sis 305 no support use VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|sis7018}} | <!--USB-->{{no|SiS 7001 USB 1.1 only}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|SIS900}} | <!--Opinion-->little support |- | <!--Name-->[http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph07585&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&dest_page=softwareCategory&os=228&tool=softwareCategory&query=Pavilion%20742n&product=89232 MSI MS-6367 HP 722n 742n (Mambo) (2001/2)] | <!--Chipset-->Nvidia nforce 220D (2001/2) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->GeForce2 AGP works 2D nouveau only | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|AC97 ADI 1885 no volume control on Units 0-3}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 USB1.1 ports AMD based - front 2 ports iffy}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|nForce}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested 20th Aug 2012 NB |- | <!--Name-->MSI K7N2 [http://us.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&prod_no=546/ Delta ILSR] Delta-L | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 (2002/3) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|Primary & Secondary ports}} IDE Tertiary port (RAID) | <!--SATA-->2 ports (RAID) | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|when fitted with an agp video card}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ac97 ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8201BL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->runs AROS well. Tested with Icaros 1.2.3 |- | <!--Name-->MSI K7N2 Delta2-LSR Platinum | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 (2002/3) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|Primary & Secondary ports}} IDE Tertiary port (RAID) | <!--SATA-->2 ports (RAID) | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|when fitted with an agp video card}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|ac97 ALC655}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8201BL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->runs AROS well. Tested with Icaros 1.2.3 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/motherboards/article.php/2204281/Soltek-SL-75MRN-L-nForce2-Motherboard-Review.htm Soltek 75FRN-L] | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|2 ports}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->AGP slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 usb2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek RTL8201BL}} | <!--Opinion-->good support |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.3dvelocity.com/reviews/mach4nf2ultra/mach4.htm XFX Pine Mach4 nForce2 Ultra 400] | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|3 ports}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|2 ports VIA VT6240}} | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP 8x slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8201BL}} | <!--Opinion-->some support |- | <!--Name-->ASUS A7V266 | <!--Chipset-->via KT266A + 8233 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{no|issues}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot | <!--Audio-->AC97 with AD1980 codec | <!--USB-->via 8233 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6103 | <!--Opinion-->2002 issues with booting |- | <!--Name-->Asus A7V8X-X | <!--Chipset-->VIA KT400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{unk| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|agp}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 with ADI AD1980 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|VIA 8235}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|Realtek 10/100}} | <!--Opinion-->2003 not booting for Socket A for AMD Barton/Thoroughbred/Athlon XP/Athlon/Duron 2.25+ GHz CPU - 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets Max. 3 GB - |- |} =====Socket 754 (2004/5)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Abit NF8-V2 | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 250GB (2004/5) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|2 ports}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|2 ports}} | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot x8 | <!--Audio-->ALC658 ac97 | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8201C}} | <!--Opinion-->a little support but no Firewire VIA VT6306 |- | <!--Name-->Biostar CK8 K8HNA Pro | <!--Chipset-->nforce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->VT6420 thru ide legacy only | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 ALC655}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8110S | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VT6307 no |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/motherboards/Chaintech_ZNF3-150_3.html Chaintech ZNF3-150 Zenith] | <!--Chipset-->nforce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|Sli3114 SATA via IDE emul}} | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot | <!--Audio-->{{no|VIA Envy24PT (VT1720) + VT1616}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom GbE 5788}} | <!--Opinion-->very little support needs PCI cards but no Firewire VIA VT6306 |- | <!--Name-->DFI Lanparty UT nF3 250GB | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 250gb | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|2 ports nForce3 and 2 Marvell SATA PHY}} | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 ALC850}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->CK8S - Winfast NF3 250K8AA works and Marvell 88E1111 does not work | <!--Opinion-->2005 some support but no Firewire VIA VT6307 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-K8N | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA nForce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC658 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8100C | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TI43AB23 no |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte K8NNXP | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Sata sil3512 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC658 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTl8110S | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TI STB82AA2 no |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-K8NSNXP | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 250GB | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->SiI 3512 CT128 Sata Sil3515 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC850 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvel 88E8001}} | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->MSI K8N Neo-FIS2R | <!--Chipset-->nVIDIA NF3-250Gb | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Realtek 7.1 AC'97 ALC850 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E1111}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->[http://techreport.com/articles.x/5748/1 Shuttle AN50R] | <!--Chipset-->nF3-150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Sil 3112 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC650 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia nF3 (10/100) Intel 82540EM Gigabit | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VT6307 no |- | <!--Name--> Foxconn WinFast K8S755A | <!--Chipset-->SiS755 + SiS964 (DDR333) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> {{yes|AC97}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|RTL8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket 939 (2005)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus A8N-LA GeForce 6150 LE | <!--Chipset-->Geforce 6150 (MCP51) + nForce 430 (PC-3200) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|two ATA 133}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|four 3.0GB/s SATAII ports}} | <!--Gfx-->built in or PCI-E x16 | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC883 HD Audio | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL 8201CL | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus A8N-SLI Premium | <!--Chipset-->NVidia | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|PCIe slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|nForce LAN but not Marvell}} | <!--Opinion-->Works well |- | <!--Name-->DFI nF4 Ultra-D LanParty - Diamond Flower International sold to BenQ group 2010 | <!--Chipset-->nF4 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->4 ports SATA 2 | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe x16 slots | <!--Audio-->AC97 with ALC850 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Dual Gigabit Ethernet, PCIe by Vitesse VSC8201 PHY nee Cicada 8201, PCI by Marvel 88E8001 | <!--Opinion-->2006 64bit - Four 184-pin DDR Dual-Channel Slots - 1 pci on Ultra, 2 pci on sli, |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus A8V E SE | <!--Chipset-->VIA K8T890 +VT8237R CHIPSET ATX AMD Motherboard with Athlon 64 X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 | <!--ACPI-->{{N/A}} | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{N/A}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe}} AC97 driver using Realtek ALC850 codec | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} USB 2.0 only | <!--Ethernet-->{{No}} Marvell 88E8053 | <!--Opinion-->Good base but needs additional PCI cards added for better support |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS A8V Deluxe (2004) | <!--Chipset-->VIA K8T800 Pro (DDR400) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->Promise 20378 2 ports | <!--SATA-->2 SATA2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|VIA VT8233A 8235 8237 AC97}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit}} | <!--Opinion-->needs extra PCI cards |- |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->AsRock 939Dual-SATA2 | <!--Chipset-->Ali Uli M1695 PCIe with M1567 AGP | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->1 Sata with JMicron JMB360 chip | <!--Gfx-->1 pci-e and 1 agp | <!--Audio-->AC97 with ALC850 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8201CL PHY ULi 10/100 | <!--Opinion-->64bit pci-e and agp combo on board - 4 ddr slots - |} =====Socket AM2 (2006/8) and AM2+ (2007-2010) ===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 (rev. 2.x) | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA® GeForce 6100 / nForce 430 chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2d for vga}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio Realtek ALC662 Audio Codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M2N61-AR mini itx | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA nForce 430 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 | <!--SATA-->2 | <!--Gfx-->GeForce 6150SE via vga or 1 pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->Nvidia | <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia | <!--Opinion-->2006 32bit - 1 pci - 2 ddr2 dimm slots non-eec - |- | <!--Name-->asus m2n68-am se2 | <!--Chipset-->nvidia 630a 630/a MCP68SE | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 ports | <!--SATA-->2 ports MCP61 chipset is SATA over IDE, not SATA over AHCI and reports subsystem as 0x1 IDE, not 0x6 SATA | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|nvidia 7025 2d and 3d thru vga}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|hd audio with realtek alc662 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|nForce chipset RTL 8201CP}} | <!--Opinion-->2007 64bit Phenom IIX2, Athlon 64 LE X2, Sempron, and Phenom FX processors - ddr2 667Mhz ram max 4Gb - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0) | <!--Chipset-->AMD 770 with SB700 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888 codec }} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 8111C later 8111D}} | <!--Opinion-->Good support for AM2+ / AM2 with 4 ddr2 ram - 4 x PCI Express x1, 2 x PCI slots - firewire T.I. TSB43AB23 chip no support - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe | <!--Chipset-->AMD 790FX RD790 + SB600 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{No|Marvell 88SE6121 SATA II}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 1.1 support | <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio ADI® AD1988}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8056}} | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASROCK N68-S N68C-S | <!--Chipset-->AMD based nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|slimline DVD drive works}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GF 7025 use vesa}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio for VIA 1708S VT1705}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|echi usb 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8201EL / 8201CL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->2008 unbuffered 1066Mhz ddr2 ram - N68C-S may need noacpi added to grub boot line to disable pci temporarily to run as it cannot get to [PCI] Everything OK - |- | <!--Name-->Asus M2N68-AM Plus | <!--Chipset-->Athlon 64, Sempron, Athlon 64 X2, Athlon 64 FX with nvidia 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->no vga, pci-e slot only | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with ALC662 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8211CL Gigabit LAN}} | <!--Opinion-->adding "noacpi noapic noioapic" to the GRUB options - Dual channel DDR2 1066, 800, 667 MHz - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M68M-S2 (1.0) S2P (2.3) S2L GA-M68SM-S2 (1.x) | <!--Chipset-->nForce 630a chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025, vga (s2 and s2p), dvi (s2l) | <!--Audio-->ALC883 (S2), ALC888B (S2P), ALC662 (S2L), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8201CL (S2), 8211CL (S2P), 8211BL (S2L), | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit possible with AMD AM2+ CPU on AM2 motherboard, the system bus speed will downgrade from HT3.0(5200MHz) to HT1.0(2000 MT/s) spec |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M2N68-VM | <!--Chipset-->nForce 630a (MCP68PVNT) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Nvidia GeForce ® 7050PV hdmi, dvi and vga | <!--Audio-->HD audio VIA 1708B codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8211C | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit - ddr2 800Mhz |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket AM3 White socket (2010/11)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-MA74GM-S2 GA-MA74GM-S2H | <!--Chipset-->740g with sb710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|bios IDE}} | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 2100 and pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->ALC888 (r1.x),ALC888b (r2.0), ALC888B (rev4.x) | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111C later 8111D | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - 2 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets max 8 GB - Micro ATX Form Factor 24.4cm x 23.4cm - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.vesalia.de/e_aresone2011.htm Aresone 2011] | <!--Chipset-->760g | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|no Radeon HD3000 driver yet<br>vesa driver works<br>and add PCIe card}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes}} | <!--Opinion-->Good support - 4 DDR3 memory sockets - |- | <!--Name-->Foxconn A76ML-K 3.0 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760g rev3.0 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|1 }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|4 in IDE mode }} | <!--Gfx-->HD3000 with pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC662-GR codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit - 2 ddr3 slots - 2 pci slots - |- | <!--Name-->GA-MA770T-UD3P (rev. 1.0 to 1.4) | <!--Chipset-->amd 770 with sb710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|4 sata}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio with Realtek ALC888 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8168 rtl8111c/d}} | <!--Opinion-->2011 64 - 4 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 2.0 2.1) | <!--Chipset-->AMD 770 with SB700 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888 codec }} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 8111C later 8111D}} | <!--Opinion-->Good support for AM3 with 4 ddr2 ram - 4 x PCI Express x1, 2 x PCI slots - firewire T.I. TSB43AB23 chip no support - |- | <!--Name-->Asus M4A785TD-M PRO | <!--Chipset-->785G and SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|ide legacy}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ATI Radeon HD 4200 - use vesa}} or pci-e 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Opinion-->Good support with 1366 ddr3 ram - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M4A88T-I Deluxe ITX | <!--Chipset-->AMD 880G with AMD SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Three SATA 3Gbps | <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 4350 GPU with HDMI and DVI or One 16x PCI-Express 2.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC889 | <!--USB-->6 x USB 2, 2 x USB 3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek RTL8112L}} | <!--Opinion-->2014 64bit - 2 SODIMM DDR3 slots max 8GB |- | <!--Name-->Asus M4A88T-M Version E5907 E5826 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 880G SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 4250 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA VT 1708S codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek rtl8169 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->GigaByte 890GPA-UD3H | <!--Chipset-->AMD 890GX together with SB850 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Yes | <!--Gfx-->use pci-e nvidia | <!--Audio-->Maybe - ALC892 rev. 1.0, ALC892 rev 2.1, ALC889 rev. 3.1 | <!--USB-->Yes | <!--Ethernet-->Yes | <!--Opinion-->works well overall |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD7 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 890FX with SB850 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE }} | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC889 (rev 2.x) | <!--USB-->{{Yes|AMD USB2 but limited with NEC D720200F1 USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->2 x Realtek 8111D | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - XL-ATX Form Factor 32.5cm x 24.4cm - 4 ddr3 slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 890GXM-G65 | <!--Chipset-->890GX + SB750 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|legacy}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ATI 4290 built-in (vesa)}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC889 DD GR}} HD Audio crackles | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock N68-VS3 FX | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 Sata2 | <!--Gfx-->Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA® VT1705 Codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek PHY RTL8201EL | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - 2 x DDR3 DIMM slots - |- | <!--Name-->MSI GF615M-P35 MS-7597 | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA® nForce 430 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->GeForce 6150SE | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with Realtek® ALC888S}} | <!--USB-->{{No|freezes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 8211CL}} | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M68MT-S2 | <!--Chipset--> nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 vga | <!--Audio-->ALC888B (1.3), ACL887 (3.1), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8211CL (all) | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit possible, AMD AM3 CPU on this motherboard, the system bus speed will downgrade from HT3.0 (5200MT/s) to HT1.0 (2000 MT/s) spec |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M68MT-S2P | <!--Chipset--> nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 vga | <!--Audio-->ALC888B (1.x 2.x), ALC889 (3.0), ALC888B/889 (3.1), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8211CL (all) | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M4N78 PRO | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA GeForce 8300 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 xUltraDMA 133/100 | <!--SATA-->6 xSATA 3 Gbit/s ports | <!--Gfx-->Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce® 8 series GPU with 1 PCIe 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA1708S 8 -Channel codec | <!--USB-->12 USB 2.0 ports (8 ports at mid-board, 4 ports at back panel) | <!--Ethernet-->NVIDIA Gigabit | <!--Opinion-->4 x DIMM, Max. 16 GB, DDR2 1200(O.C.)/1066*/800/667 ECC,Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory - ATX Form Factor 12 inch x 9.6 inch ( 30.5 cm x 24.4 cm ) - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket AM3+ Black socket (2012/15)===== *095W FX-6300 FD6300WMHKBOX (bulldozer SSE4.1 AVX) 970 mobos with FX-8320E 8core Black Editions FD832EWMHKBOX FX-8370E (Vishera/Piledriver) *125W FX-6310 (bulldozer) 970 mobos with FX-8320 FX-8350 FX-8370 (Vishera/Piledriver) *220W 990FX mobos with FX-9000 FX-9370 FX-9590 {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M5A78L-M LX3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760G with SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|bios IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->HD3000 with pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC887, V? ALC892 codecs | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros 8161/8171 add realtek 8111? pci-e card}} | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - uATX Form Factor 9.6 inch x 7.4 inch ( 24.4 cm x 18.8 cm ) - 2 x DIMM, Max. 16GB, DDR3 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760G and SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|6 SATA2 ports}} | <!--Gfx-->GT240 and a nv7900gs, both pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC889 (r3.1), ALC??? (rev. 4.0), ALC887 (r5.x)}} | <!--USB-->4 USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 8111E (r3.1), Atheros (rev4.0), Atheros (r5.x) }} | <!--Opinion-->2012 offers very poor control over its EFI vs. BIOS booting partition features |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 (r3.0), (r4.1 Blue board), (r5.0 dark board), (rev6 dark mobo) | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760G and SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|Bios IDE mode for SATA2 on early ones}} | <!--Gfx-->AMD HD3000, pci-e GT240 and a nv7900gs | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC??? (r3.0), ALC887 (r4.1), VIA VT2021 (r5.0), Realtek® ALC892 codec (rev6) }} | <!--USB-->{{yes|AMD USB2 but not VIA® VL805 USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE | <!--Opinion-->2013 64bit - Micro ATX Form Factor 24.4cm x 24.4cm - 4 x DDR3 DIMM sockets - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 760GM | <!--Chipset-->ATI 760G plus SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->HD3000 Use Vesa | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|P33 VT1705; P34, P21 and P23 (FX) MS7641 v3.0 ALC887, E51 ALC892}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Opinion-->P23 issues with audio ALC887 crackles thru earphones - |- | <!--Name-->Gigayte GA-MA770T-UD3P (rev. 3.1) | <!--Chipset-->amd 770 with sb710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with Realtek ALC888/892 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111d/e | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASRock 890FX Deluxe5 Extreme3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 890FX + AMD SB850 or SB950 (Extreme3) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{N/A}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC892}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8111E rtl8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M5A97 R2.0 EVO | <!--Chipset-->AMD 970 and SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Asmedia SATA Controller | <!--Gfx-->n/a | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC887 (LE), ALC887 (Regular), ALC892 (EVO) codec | <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 and 2 Asmedia USB3.0 Controller | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111F | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 970 with SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio--> ALC??? (rev. 1.0/1.1), ALC887 (rev1.2), VIA VT2021 codec (rev 1.3 1.4 and rev3.0) | <!--USB-->{{yes|AMD USB2 but not Etron EJ168 chip (USB3)}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE 8111E (all revisions), | <!--Opinion-->2015 64bit - ATX Form Factor 30.5cm x 22.4cm - 4 x 1.5V DDR3 DIMM sockets - |- | <!--Name-->MSI 970 Gaming | <!--Chipset-->970FX SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC1150 Codec | <!--USB-->6 usb2 with 2 USB3 VIA VL806 Chipset | <!--Ethernet-->Killer E2205 Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M5A99X EVO | <!--Chipset-->990X - RD980 with SB920 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->2 pci-e gen ? | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC892 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 realtek 8111e | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 990 with SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC889 (rev 1.x, 3.0, 3.1), | <!--USB-->{{yes|AMD USB2 not 2 x Etron EJ168 chips for USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->realtek rtl8169 8111e | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - ATX Form Factor; 30.5cm x 24.4cm - 4 ddr3 slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====AMD Fusion (2011/14)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | 1.2GHz single Bobcat Fusion C30 + Hudson M1 | ACPI | IDE | SATA | AMD 6250 | Audio | USB | Ethernet | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | Asus E35M1-M PRO uATX | 1.6GHz 18W AMD Fusion E-350 dual core + Hudson M1 | ACPI | {{N/A}} | SATA | AMD 6310 - no HD driver yet | ALC887 VD2 | USB | RTL8111E | 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - EFI bios [http://www.anandtech.com/show/4023/the-brazos-performance-preview-amd-e350-benchmarked] |- | Asus E35M1-I Deluxe miniITX | 1.6GHz dual AMD Fusion E350 + Hudson M1 + DDR3 | ACPI | {{N/A}} | SATA | AMD 6310 - no HD driver yet | ALC892 | USB | Realtek 8111E | 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - no support for Atheros AR5008 on a Mini PCI-E |- | ASRock E350M1 / USB3 (also version with USB3.0 added) | 1.6GHz dual AMD Fusion E350 + Hudson M1 | ACPI | {{N/A}} | SATA - 4 SATA3 | {{Maybe|AMD 6310 - use vesa with hdmi and dvi}} | {{Yes|Audio ALC892 playback but no HDMI output}} | USB - 4 USB2.0 and 2 USB3.0 | {{Yes|rtl8169 for Realtek 8111E 8411 ethernet chipset}} | 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-E350N-USB3 mini-ITX | <!--Chipset--> Hudson M1 FCH | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 SATA3 | <!--Gfx--> plus HDMI, DVI | <!--Audio-->ALC892 | <!--USB-->2 NEC USB3.0 with 4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-E350N Win8 V1.0 | <!--Chipset-->Hudson M1 FCH A45 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 SATA3 | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Use VESA - AMD 6310 plus HDMI, DVI}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC887 playback through headphones but not thru hdmi}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|4 USB2.0 needs more testing}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8111 8168B}} | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - works well but need to test with sata hard disk |- | <!--Name-->MSI E350IA-E45 | <!--Chipset-->e-350 + Hudson M1 + DDR3 | <!--ACPI-->no support | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 Sata3 ports | <!--Gfx-->AMD 6310 gpu | <!--Audio-->ALC HDA | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 and 2 USB3.0 through NEC 720200 chipset | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS E45M1-M PRO | <!--Chipset-->E450 APU with Hudson M1 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS E45M1-I Deluxe | <!--Chipset-->E-450 together | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket FM1 (2011/13)===== On board Graphic on CPU - HD6410D, HD6530D, HD6550D, {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS F1A55-M LE | <!--Chipset--> with AMD A55 FCH (Hudson D2) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->6 x SATA 3Gbit/s port(s), blue Support Raid 0, 1, 10, JBOD | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 2.0 slot or Integrated AMD Radeon™ HD 6000 in Llano APU | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC887 Audio CODEC | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 ports | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E rtl8169 | <!--Opinion-->2012 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - A-Series/E2- Series APUs up to 4 cores - 2 x DIMM, Max. 32GB, DDR3 2250(O.C.)/1866/1600/1333/1066 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory Dual Channel Memory Architecture - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket FM2 White Socket (2012/13)===== Onboard Gfx on CPU - HD6570, HD7480D, HD7540D, {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A75 A85X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket FM2 Plus Black socket (2013/15)===== Onboard Gfx on CPU - HD6570, HD7480D, HD7540D, {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A88X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket AM1 FS1b socket (2014/1x)===== 5350 4 core Jaguar cores 2GHz with Integrated AMD Radeon R Series Graphics in the APU Kabini [Radeon HD 8400] Later Beema APU with 2/4 core Puma (slightly updated Jaguar) cores, GCN graphics and a compute capable Radeon core, along with a brand new AMD security processor and FT3 BGA packaging (probably best avoided for long term survival). {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS AM1I-A | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio Realtek® ALC887-VD | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111GR 8168 | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit may support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->MSI AM1I | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111G | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI AM1M | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111G | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->BGA FT3 AM1x |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket AM4 FM3 Summit Ridge Zen Zen+ (2016/22)===== Jim Keller’s group designed x86 Zen CPU - new and covering the same AM4 platform/socket for desktop Zen will also shift from Bulldozer’s Clustered Multithreading (CMT) to Simultaneous Multithreading (SMT, aka Intel’s Hyperthreading). CMT is the basis for Bulldozer’s unusual combination of multiple integer cores sharing a single FPU within a module, so the move to SMT is a more “traditional” design for improving resource usage Trusted Platform Module, or fTPM, that Windows 11 requires. Ryzen processors using a firmware TPM are causing stutters, even when doing mundane tasks. To enable TPM 2.0 on your AMD system please follow the steps below. <pre> Power on system and press DEL or F2 to get into the BIOS. Navigate to Advanced\CPU Configuration. Enable AMD fTPM switch. Press F10 to save changes. </pre> {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero | <!--Chipset-->X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 (1x16 or 2x8) | <!--Audio-->SupremeFX audio features an S1220 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel I211 | <!--Opinion-->Ryzen 7 1800X 1700X |- | <!--Name-->Biostar X370gtn Itx Am4 | <!--Chipset-->AMD X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek Dragon LAN RTL8118AS | <!--Opinion--> 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-AX370 K7 | <!--Chipset--> X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with 2 x Realtek® ALC1220 codec 0x10EC, 0x0295 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->1 intel and 1 E2500 | <!--Opinion--> 4 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->MSI Xpower Gaming Titanium | <!--Chipset--> X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->8-channel Realtek 1220 Codec 0x10EC, 0x0295 | <!--USB-->ASMedia® ASM2142 and amd cpu | <!--Ethernet-->1 x Intel® I211AT Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion--> 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Prime B350 Plus ATX | <!--Chipset-->B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 mode) | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC887 8-Channel | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->Ryzen 5 1600x 1600 1500X 1400 - 4 x DIMM Max 64GB, DDR4 up to 2666MHz ECC and non-ECC Memory - ATX 12 inch x 9.35 inch ( 30.5 cm x 23.7 cm ) - 2 pci |- | <!--Name-->Asus PRIME B350M-A/CSM Micro ATX | <!--Chipset-->AMD B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek LAN | <!--Opinion-->Ryzen 3 1300x 1200 1100 |- | <!--Name-->AsRock Pro4 AB350 | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe 3.0 x16, 4 PCIe 2.0 x1 | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->2017 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac | <!--Chipset--> B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic Mortar | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 (x16 mode) | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->white and grey colours - 2 pci-e and 2 pci slots - m.2 in middle - atx 12 in by 9.6 in and matx versions - |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue M-ATX B350M-TI | <!--Chipset-->B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue B350I-Plus ITX | <!--Chipset-->B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock A320M-ITX MINI ITX Rev1.0 Rev2 Rev2.1 | <!--Chipset-->A320 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2018 |- | <!--Name-->Asus PRIME A320M-C R2.0 rev1.1 A320M-K | <!--Chipset-->A320 A/B300 SFF | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HD audio with Realtek ALC887 alc897 CODEC | <!--USB-->2 usb 3.1 gen 1 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2019 64bit - 3rd/2nd/1st Gen AMD Ryzen™ / 2nd and 1st Gen AMD Ryzen™ with Radeon™ Vega |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI A320M-A PRO MicroATX | <!--Chipset-->AMD A320 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio Realtek® ALC892 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 8111H | <!--Opinion-->2019 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG X399 Zenith Extreme | <!--Chipset-->AMD X399 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> supremefx s1220 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Opinion-->Threadripper 1950X 1920X 1900X TR4 skt |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->AsRock Fatality X470 Gaming K4 mATX | <!--Chipset-->X470 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->nvme | <!--Gfx-->pci-e rebar possible | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asrock Fatal1ty X470 Gaming-ITXac AMD AM4 | <!--Chipset-->AMD X470 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS ROG STRIX X470-I GAMING AM4 ITX Motherboard | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus B450-I Gaming | <!--Chipset-->AMD B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->high VRM temps - raven ridge 14nm+ like 2200G 2400G |- | <!--Name-->AsRock B450 Gaming K4 | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> alc892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> 4 ddr4 slots - low VRM thermals 3900x 3950x |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte B450 I Aorus Pro Wifi | <!--Chipset-->AMD B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 nvme pcie3 with 4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pcie | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek® ALC1220-VB codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Opinion-->very high vrm temps |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue B450i Gaming ITX | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata3 - none nvme | <!--Gfx-->pcie3 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->1G | <!--Opinion-->2021 64 2nd 3rd AMD - 2 ddr4 dimm slots |- | <!--Name-->MSI b450 tomahawk max | <!--Chipset--> b450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{n/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HD audio with Realtek® ALC892 Codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111H | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450 Pro Carbon | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> ALC codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450-A PRO | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111h | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450I GAMING Plus AC ITX | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2019 - 2nd and 3rd gen AMD - 2 ddr4 slots - |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450 GAMING PLUS MAX | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek® ALC892/ALC897 Codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111H | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MAXSUN AMD Challenger B450M M-ATX (aka Soyo) | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASRock X570 PHANTOM GAMING-ITX/TB3 Mini ITX AM4 | <!--Chipset-->X570 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->nvme | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 4.0 | <!--Audio--> ALC1200 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero | <!--Chipset-->AMD X570 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> SupremeFX7.1 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel® I211-AT and Realtek® RTL8125-CG 2.5G LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> alc1220 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Strix B550-i AM4 ITX Motherboard | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 - |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue Jingyue B550i Gaming itx | <!--Chipset-->B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->3 with 1 nvme | <!--Gfx-->1 pci-e 4 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio alc | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->1G | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit max of Ryzen 5500 (c t), 5600, 5600g (6c12t) - 2 ddr4 |- | <!--Name-->Asrock B550 PHANTOM GAMING ITX/AX | <!--Chipset-->AMD B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> alc1220 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel 2.5G | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->AsRock B550M-ITX/ac | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> Realtek ALC887/897 Audio Codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion-->2022 - 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING | <!--Chipset-->B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->PCIe Gen4 x4 & SATA3 | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 4 | <!--Audio--> supremefx S1220A | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel® I225-V 2.5Gb | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte AMD B550I AORUS PRO AX Mini-ITX rev 1.0 | <!--Chipset-->AMD B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme pci-e3 with 4 sata3 | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC1220-VB codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 2.5GbE LAN | <!--Opinion-->2021 2 x DDR4 DIMM sockets 1Rx8/2Rx8/1Rx16 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX | <!--Chipset-->B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 DP and hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC1200 | <!--USB-->USB3 USB 3.2 Gen1 Type-C | <!--Ethernet-->2.5GbE LAN | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit- finer tuning than A520's - AMD Ryzen 5000 Series/ 3rd Gen Ryzen and 3rd Gen Ryzen with Radeon Graphics CPU - Dual Channel ECC/ Non-ECC Unbuffered DDR4, 4 DIMMs - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX | <!--Chipset--> B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio ALC887 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->realtek rtl8118 | <!--Opinion-->2021 64bit - 4 ddr4 dimms - |- | <!--Name-->MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX | <!--Chipset--> B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC892 | <!--USB-->USB 3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111H | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Processors - 4 dimm ddr4 - |- | <!--Name-->MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX | <!--Chipset--> B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe 1 x M.2, Socket 3, M Key (up to Type 22110) and 1 x M.2, Socket 3, M Key (Type 2242/2260/2280) | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 with dp and hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDaudio ALC1200 | <!--USB-->USB3 1 x USB 3.1 Type-C and 1 x USB 3.1 Type-A | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8125B and Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - 4 Dimm slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue A520M-H mATX | <!--Chipset-->A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> old bios with random issues with APU ryzens - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte A520M S2H mATX | <!--Chipset-->AMD A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 1GbE | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit Zen3 65W and up - 2 ddr4 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte A520I AC mITX mini-itx | <!--Chipset-->AMD A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit Zen3 65W and up 5600G (6c12t) or 5700G (8c16t) - 2 ddr4 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->MSI A520M-A PRO mATX | <!--Chipset-->A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe 1 x M.2, Socket 3, M Key (Type 2242/2260/2280) | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC892 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111H | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - 2 ddr4 dimm slots - 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Desktop and AMD Ryzen 4000 G-Series CPU |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} ===== (Socket AM5 LGA1718 Zen4 2022/2x)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asrock Steel Legend | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e rnda2 | <!--Audio-->HD audio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - ddr5 ecc (10 chip) and non-ecc (8 chips) 64Gb @ 6000Mhz or 128GB @ 4800Mhz - |- | <!--Name-->Asrock TaiChi | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e rnda2 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio | <!--USB-->USB4 with Thunderbolt 4 equivalent | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek killer E3000 2.5GbE}} | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - ddr5 ecc (10 chip) and non-ecc (8 chips) |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Crosshair Hero | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe rnda2 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->rnda3 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit 7950x3d 120W, 7900 7800 7600 90W |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->rnda3 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus B650E-I | <!--Chipset-->B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 5 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2023 - better sound with an actual AMP, PCIe 5, USB-C display outs - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x650 B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x650 B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x650 B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MAXSUN AMD Challenger B650M WIFI M-ATX (aka Soyo) | <!--Chipset-->B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI b650i mini itx | <!--Chipset-->B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 4 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->2023 - front panel connectors at the back of the board - dead rear nvme slot and a drained CMOS battery as the CMOS button being pressed during shipping - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M Zen4 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> Zen5 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> Zen6 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} ===== (Zen? AM? 203x/3x)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} ====Intel==== [[#top|...to the top]] =====Socket 370 (2000/2)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Intel D815EEA | <!--Chipset-->866Mhz P3 and i815 chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia AGPx8 6200LE added}} | <!--Audio-->{{N/A}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|2 USB1.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested AspireOS 1.7, simple basic board with useful 5 PCI slots |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket 478 (2002/4)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->[http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://detail.zol.com.cn/motherboard/index46381.shtml&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dc.865pe.l%2Bmotherboard%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DsZB%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official Colorful Technology C.865PE-L Silver Fighter Warrior V2.3] | <!--Chipset-->865PE | <!--ACPI-->{{dunno| }} | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|tested with CDROM}} | <!--SATA-->{{dunno| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|AGP slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|ALC650 AC97}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 1.1 and 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8100 8139}} | <!--Opinion-->Still testing with NB (Nightly Build) May 2013 |- | <!--Name-->Intel 845 | <!--Chipset-->865P | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{No|intel 800}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 AD1985}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|e1000}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested ICAROS 1.3 |- | <!--Name-->Intel 845 | <!--Chipset-->865GC | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{No|intel 865 Extreme Graphics 2}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 AD1985}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|e1000}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested ICAROS 1.3 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA775 s775 (2005/8)===== an industry standard DDR2 module could in theory contain fallback JEDEC, intel XMP and AMD EPP configuration data Intel PC CL5 ram modules but an "AMD" CL5 ram module the BIOS cannot read the AMD EPP info on the SPD (Serial Presence Detect) but can recognize the CL5 timing info in the JEDEC data table. PC BIOS auto configures for the AMD ram module and boots normally. an AMD PC CL6 ram modules but an "INTEL" CL6 ram module the BIOS cannot read the INTEL XMP info on the SPD but can recognize the CL6 timing info in JEDEC data table. PC BIOS auto configures for the AMD ram module and boots normally. an INTEL PC needs CL6 ram modules but have an "AMD" CL4 ram module. INTEL BIOS cannot read the AMD EPP info on the SPD but can recognize the CL4 timing info in JEDEC data table. PC BIOS recognizes module timings as incompatible an refuses to boot. entirely separate issue if the RAM module timing specs are incompatible.(i.e. CL4 RAM in a "CL6 only" PC) {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Abit AG8 | <!--Chipset-->P915 + ICH6R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports SATA1 | <!--Gfx-->1 PCIe x16 Slot | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC658 AC97 | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8110S-32 | <!--Opinion-->2004 32bit - Firewire TI 4200R7T no |- | <!--Name-->MSI 915 Neo2 | <!--Chipset-->P915 + ICH6R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports SATA1 | <!--Gfx-->1 PCIe x16 Slot | <!--Audio-->CMI 9880L HD Audio | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcomm BCM5751 PCIe}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VIA VT6306 no |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5GC P5GC-MX | <!--Chipset-->P945GC Lakeport-GC + ICH7R northbridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 3.0 Gbit/s ports | <!--Gfx-->1 PCIe 1.1 slot | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC662 codec | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 usb2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|atheros L2}} | <!--Opinion-->2005 32bit - 3 pci slots - 4 x 240-pin DIMM Sockets max. 4GB DDR2 667/533 non-ECC - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Foxconn PC45CM-SA 45CM-S | <!--Chipset-->945GC with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 sata2 ports | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|pcie 1.0 slot with gma950 integrated}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with aLC883 codec playback}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|realtek 8139 8100sc}} | <!--Opinion-->2 dimm slots 667mhz max 4gb - can be found in Advent desktops - 2 pci-e and 2 pci - core 2 duo only e6xxx - Micro ATX (9.6” x 8.8”) - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-81945GM MFY-RH | <!--Chipset-->Intel® 945GM Express with ICH7M-DH | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA950 VGA15 and PCI-e 1.0 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC880 codec playback only rear port}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 usb 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO1000PL 82573L Gigabit Ethernet}} | <!--Opinion-->2006 MoDT term “Mobile on DeskTop.”, low TDP CPUs to work on desktop form-factor motherboards. mATX Micro ATX 24.4cm x 24.4cm - 2 DDR2 dimm 1.8v slots with 4Gb max - will not boot if PCI2 slot occupied - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-945 GCM S2C | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662 (1.x)}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|8101E Rtl 8169 (1.x)}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA945-GCM S2L | <!--Chipset-->945GC with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCi-E slot | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD Audio with ALC662 codec 2/4/5.1-channel (1.x)}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8111c 8169 (1.x)}} | <!--Opinion-->2 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM 4GB DDR2 memory max - 2 PCI-e and 2 PCI - Micro ATX form factor; 24.4cm x 19.3cm - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 945P Neo-F rev 1.0 | <!--Chipset-->P945 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCie 1.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC662 HDA | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->8110SC (rtl8169) | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 945P Neo2-F rev 1.2 | <!--Chipset-->P945 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCie 1.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC850 AC97 | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->8110SC (rtl8169) | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-P31-DS3L | <!--Chipset-->P31 with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCI Express x16 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC888 codec | <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111B | <!--Opinion-->DDR2 800Mhz up to 4Gb 4 x 240 pin - 3 PCI - ATX 12.0" x 8.3" - |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5KPL-AM /PS | <!--Chipset-->G31 with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->4 xSATA 3 Gbit/s ports | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 1.1 with integrated Intel® GMA 3100 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA VT1708B with ALC662 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8102EL 100/10 LAN with Realtek RTL8111C Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion-->2 x 2 GB DDR2 Non-ECC,Un-buffered DIMMs with 2 PCI - Intel Graphics Media Accelerator - |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5KPL/EPU | <!--Chipset-->G31 with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Pci-e 1.0 slot | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8169 Realtek 8111C}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested - 4 240-pin DIMM, Max. 4 GB - 4 pci-e and 3 pci - ATX Form Factor 12 inch x 8.2 inch ( 30.5 cm x 20.8 cm ) - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G31M ES2L | <!--Chipset-->G31 plus ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 3100 2d}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC883 (1.x), ALC883/888B (2.x)}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|RTL8111C (1.x), Atheros 8131 (2.x)}} | <!--Opinion-->reduces DRAM capacity to 4GB |- | <!--Name-->ASRock G31M-S r1.0 G31M-GS | <!--Chipset-->G31 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|4 sata2}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GMA 3100 2d not 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{partial|rtl8169 RTL8111DL 8169 (for -GS) RTL8102EL (for -S)}} | <!--Opinion-->2007 64bit Core2 - 2 DDR2 800 max 8Gig AMI bios MicroATX - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock G31M-S r2.0 | <!--Chipset-->G31 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|4 sata2}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GMA 3100 2d not 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL 8111DL 8169}} | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit core2 - 2 DDR2 800 max 8Gig MicroATX |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/apac/eng/products/desktop/bdb/dg31pr/feature/index.htm Intel DG31PR] | <!--Chipset-->iG31 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|3100 but can use PCIe 1.1 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888 playback}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8111B Rtl 8169}} | <!--Opinion-->good support |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Intel G33 Express Chipset with ich9 southbridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Intel 3100 powervr tile based | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit - embedded on Core 2 Quad, Core 2 Duo, Pentium Dual-Core CPUS with Integrated GPU Intel GMA 3100 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS P5G41T-M LX | <!--Chipset-->G41 + ICH8 + DDR3 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|X4500 some 2d only)}} | <!--Audio-->ALC887 | <!--USB-->3 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros L1c AR8131}} | <!--Opinion-->reduces maximum supported memory ddr3 from 16 to 8GB 2 dimm slots non-EEC - demotes the PCIe controller mode from revision 2.0 (5.0GT/s) to revision 1.1 (2.5GT/s |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G41MT S2 | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->VT1708S (1.3), ALC887-VD2 (1.4), ALC887 (2.1), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Atheros AR8151 l1c (1.x 2.x), | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G41MT S2PT | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC887 (1.0), VIA (2.0), ALC887 (2.1) | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8111E (1.x), Atheros AR8151 l1c (2.1), | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G41MT D3 | <!--Chipset-->G41 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 Port | <!--SATA-->4 Ports | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|GMA X4500 2d only and pci-e 1.1 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888B}} | <!--USB-->4 ports + headers | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8111 D/E}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-P41T D3P | <!--Chipset-->G41 + ICH7 with Intel Core 2 Duo (E6xxx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4ports | <!--Gfx-->GMA X4500 2d | <!--Audio-->ALC888 889/892 | <!--USB-->4 ports | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8111C or D/E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Intel DG41AN Classic | <!--Chipset-->iG41 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx-->X4500 2d | <!--Audio-->ALC888S ALC888VC | <!--USB-->4 ports | <!--Ethernet-->8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->AsRock P5B-DE | <!--Chipset-->P965 + ICH8 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|works ide legacy}} |<!--Gfx-->{{Yes|with PCI-E 1.1 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio via VT1708S}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8169}} | <!--Opinion-->2006 works well |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5B SE | <!--Chipset-->965 intel | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{N/A}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio ALC662 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No| }} | <!--Opinion-->works well except ethernet |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5W DH Deluxe P5WDG2 WS PRO | <!--Chipset-->975X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->2 ports | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe x16 slots | <!--Audio-->ALC882 AND LATER ADI 1988B | <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8052 88E8053}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TI TSB43AB22A no |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Abit IP35 | <!--Chipset-->P35 Express + ICH9R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 ports | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC888 HDA | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->two RTL8110SC | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Texas TSB43 AB22A no |- | <!--Name-->MSI P35 Neo F FL MS-7630 rev 1 | <!--Chipset-->Intel P35 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 1.1 support | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC888 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->Base model of this range of P35 mobos |- | <!--Name-->GA-P35-DS3 | <!--Chipset-->P35 and ICH9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC889A codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111B | <!--Opinion-->2008 - 4 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets max 8 GB - |- | <!--Name-->GA-EP35-DS3 (rev. 2.1) | <!--Chipset-->Intel® P35 + ICH9 Chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{unk|}} | <!--SATA-->{{unk|4 }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{unk|Realtek ALC889A codec }} | <!--USB-->{{yes | }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8111B}} | <!--Opinion-->good |- | <!--Name-->Abit IX38 Quad GT | <!--Chipset-->X38 / ICH9R Chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCI-E 2.0 slot | <!--Audio--> HD Audio ALC888 | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL 8110SC 8169SC | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Texas TSB 43AB22A no |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte X38-DQ6 | <!--Chipset-->X38 / ICH9R Chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCI-E 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC889A HDA | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->twin 8111B 8169 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-EP45 DS3 (2008) | <!--Chipset-->P45 + ICH9 or ICH10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 x SATA 3Gbit/s (SATAII0, SATAII1, SATAII2, SATAII3, SATAII4, SATAII5) | <!--Gfx-->two PCI-E v2.0 x16 slots support splitting its 16 PCIe 2.0 lanes across two cards at x8 transfers | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC888 or ALC889A codec | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->2 x Realtek 8111C chips (10/100 /1000 Mbit) | <!--Opinion-->4 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets non-EEC |- | <!--Name-->MSI P45 Platinum (2008) | <!--Chipset-->P45 + ICH9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 sata2 ports | <!--Gfx-->two PCI-E x16 v2.0 slots | <!--Audio-->ALC888 HD Audio | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->G45 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->adds Intel’s GMA X4500HD graphics engine to P45 Express features | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->G43 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->GMA X4500 2d | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->removes HD video acceleration from the G45’s features |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5E Deluxe | <!--Chipset--> X48 with ICH9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ADI 1988B codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Marvell 88E8001 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->GigaByte GA-X48 DQ6 | <!--Chipset-->X48 plus ICH9R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->8 ports | <!--Gfx-->two PCI-E x16 v2.0 slots | <!--Audio-->ALC889A | <!--USB-->8 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8111B 8169 | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TSB43AB23 no - ICH9 pairs with Intel’s 3-series (X38, P35, etc.) chipsets, in addition to the X48 Express, but excluding the G35 Express |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte EP43-DS3L and Gigabyte GA-EP43-UD3L | <!--Chipset-->P43 with ICH10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 x SATA 3Gbit/s connectors | <!--Gfx-->1 x PCI Express x16 slot PCI Express 2.0 standard | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC888 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8111C | <!--Opinion-->4 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets - 4 pcie x1 - 2 pci - ATX Form Factor; 30.5cm x 21.0cm |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte 73-pvm-s2h rev.1.0 | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA GeForce 7100 nForce 630i | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|1 port}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|3 ports SATA2}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d GeForce 7100 (vga /hdmi/dvi), 1 PCIe x16 Slot }} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ALC889A MCP73}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|7 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL 8211B MCP73}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Not, tested with Icaros Desktop 2.0.3 MCP73 is a single chip solution in three different versions |- | <!--Name-->Nvidia 7150 630i | <!--Chipset-->intel based nForce 630i (MCP73) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|ide legacy}} | <!--GFX-->GF 7150 | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD AUDIO ALC883}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|ohci echi}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8201C}} | <!--Opinion-->being tested |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2.0 x16 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> the MCP73PV or the GeForce 7050/nForce 630i |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->the MCP73S or the GeForce7025/nForce 630i |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->the MCP73V or the GeForce 7025/nForce 610i |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Atom SOC (2008/2x)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->D945CLF | <!--Chipset-->N230 single core | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|GMA945}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662}} Skt 441 | <!--USB-->{{yes|uhci and ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} | <!--Opinion-->works very well |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.clusteruk.com iMica D945GCKF2 mobo] | <!--Chipset-->Intel Atom N330 Dual Core | <!--ACPI-->wip | <!--IDE-->{{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|gma}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD AUDIO}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|uhci ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->D945GSEJT + Morex T1610 | <!--Chipset-->Atom 230 with 945GSE | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|GMA900 vga but issues with DVI output}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio with ALC662 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169 8111DL}} | <!--Opinion-->small size, runs off 12V |- | <!--Name-->ASUS AT3N7A-I | <!--Chipset-->Atom N330 Nvidia ION | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|3 ports legacy IDE}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|nouveau cube cube 2 45 quake 3 }} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with VIA 1708S codec playback}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169 device}} | <!--Opinion--><ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAiJpvu73iw</ref> good but can freeze randomly at times |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->D410PT 45nm pinetrail | <!--Chipset-->D410 and NM10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|ide legacy}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GMA3150}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC262 or ALC66x odd clicks}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8111DL}} | <!--Opinion-->some support |- | <!--Name-->45nm pinetrail | <!--Chipset-->D510 and NM10 + GMA3150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->GMA3150 | <!--Audio-->ALC888B or ALC66x | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8111DL | <!--Opinion-->some support |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-D525TUD (rev. 1.0 1.2 1.5) | <!--Chipset-->D525 NM10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->gma 3150 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111f | <!--Opinion-->2012 64 - 2 ddr3 dimm slots max 8g - Mini-ITX Form Factor; 17.0cm x 17.0cm - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- |} =====Socket 1366 (2009/10)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P6T DELUXE | <!--Chipset-->x58 + ICH10 and Intel 1st gen. (Nehalem/Lynnfield) Core i7 (8xx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|1 port}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe x16 (r2.0) slots | <!--Audio-->ADI AD2000B HD Audio | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Marvell 88E8056 Gigabit}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VIA VT6308 no |- | <!--Name-->gigabyte ex58 ds | <!--Chipset--> x58 + ICH10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111D rtl8169 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket 1156 (2010)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire M3910 | <!--Chipset-->i3 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA intel HD}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|HDAudio with Realtek ALC}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk| Realtek}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2H | <!--Chipset-->H55 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe slot | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|ALCxxx playback}} ALC888B (Rev1.x) | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8111D}} (Rev 1.x) | <!--Opinion-->Tested but no support for WLAN Realtek 8188su |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI H55M-E33 v1.0 | <!--Chipset-->E7636 M7636 H55 chipset so older i3/i5/i7 system | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio ALC889}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|PCI-E Realtek 8111DL}} | <!--Opinion-->Works well |- | <!--Name-->Asus P7P55D | <!--Chipset-->P55 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{unk| }} | <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{maybe | via codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe |rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111B/C RTL8112L }} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA 1155 H2 (2010/13)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS P8H61-I LX R2.0 | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->1 pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111f | <!--Opinion-->2013 - up to ivybridge cpus - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->Asus P8H61-I/RM/SI mini-itx | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2012 64 up to i3-2010 - OEM board from an RM machine but not ivybridge as the Asus BIOS isn't compatible with these, 0909 hacked one might work - |- | <!--Name-->asus p8h61-i lx r2.0/rm/si mini itx | <!--Chipset-->h61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2.0 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with VIA codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111e | <!--Opinion-->2012 sandy and ivy - oem from rm machine 2 x 240-Pin DDR3 DIMM sockets max DDR3 1333MHz - |- | <!--Name-->‎Bewinner 63q9c7omvs V301 ITX | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata with nvme | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 4 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8106E 100M Network Card | <!--Opinion-->2022 64 |- | <!--Name-->Biostar H61 H61MHV2 H61MHV3 Ver. 7.0 | <!--Chipset-->H61 with Intel Pentium G 2xxx series CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC662 later ALC897 | <!--USB-->4 usb2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->2014 - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H61M-D2-B3 | <!--Chipset-->H61 + Sandybridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC889 | <!--USB-->2 ports | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H61MA-D3V | <!--Chipset-->H61 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Maybe No Realtek ALC887 (Rev 2.0) ALC887 (Rev2.1) | <!--USB-->2 ports | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->GA-H61M-S2PV | <!--Chipset-->H61 with 2400k 2500k 2600k 2700k | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC887 (rev 1.0 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3) | <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Rtl811E (1.0) 8151 (2.0) Rtl8111F (2.1 2.2 2.3) | <!--Opinion-->Micro ATX Form Factor; 24.4cm x 20cm with 2 pci-e and 2 pci - |- | <!--Name-->Intel Classic Series DH61CR Desktop | <!--Chipset-->H61 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC892 | <!--USB-->4 ports | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82579V}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI H61M-P20 (G3) MS-7788 *retail MSI board *OEM Advent, etc | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|four SATAII ports}} | <!--Gfx-->1 PCI Express gen3 (retail) gen2 (oem) x16 slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8105E 100M Network Card}} | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - 2 ddr3 slots - 22.6cm(L) x 17.3cm(W) M-ATX Form Factor - BIOS - [https://www.arosworld.org/infusions/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=1149&rowstart=140&pid=6009#post_6007 works well], |- | <!--Name-->MSI H61I-E35 (B3) MS-7677 Ver.1.2 | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2d for hdmi}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|https://www.arosworld.org/infusions/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=1149&rowstart=140&pid=5861#post_5861 works}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P8H67-M | <!--Chipset-->H67 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata3 - 4 sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC887 | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P8Z68-V LX | <!--Chipset-->Z68 + Intel 2nd generation (Sandy Bridge) Core i7 (2xxx) CPU and possibly ivybridgev | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|2 sata3 - 4 sata2}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio Intel HD with ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 USB3.0 - 4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek® 8111E}} | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit SSE 4.1 and AVX - EFI bios - 4 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 (B3) | <!--Chipset-->Z68 + Ivybridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata3 - 4 sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC889 | <!--USB-->2 USB3.0 - 4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->H77 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H77-D3H 1.0 1.1 | <!--Chipset-->H77 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata 3.0 | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio VIA VT2021 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros GbE LAN chip}} | <!--Opinion-->2013 64bit i5 3550 7 3770 - 4 DDR3 slots - 2 full pci-e 2 pci slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA Z77 D3H with i3 3225 dual | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio VIA VT2021 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros GbE LAN chip}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA 1150 H3 (2013/2016)===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H87N-WIFI mITX | <!--Chipset-->H87 and Intel 4th generation (Haswell) Core i5 (4xxx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel Atheros | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus H81M-C H81M-P-SI | <!--Chipset-->H81 with 4th generation (Haswell) Core i7 (4xxx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2x3g 2x6g | <!--Gfx-->pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->hdaudio alc887 vd | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8111gr | <!--Opinion-->skt 1150 - 2 ddr3 max 16g - mini atx - |- | <!--Name-->Asus H81T | <!--Chipset-->H81 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->HD4000 igpu only | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC887-VD | <!--USB-->Intel USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 realtek 8111G | <!--Opinion-->2013 64bit intel 4th gen mini itx - external dc brick with 19v rare barrel pin 7.4MM x 5.0MM - 2 ddr3 laptop sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H81M-S2V | <!--Chipset-->H81 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC887 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® GbE LAN chip | <!--Opinion-->2014 64bit up to i7 4790K - 2 DDR3 slots - |- | <!--Name-->GA-H81M-D3V (rev. 1.0) | <!--Chipset-->H81 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|2 sata2 2 sata3 }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{unk| HDAudio Realtek® ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|intel and VIA® VL805}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|rtl8169 Realtek }} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Z87-K | <!--Chipset-->Z87 with 4th generation (Haswell) Core i7 4c8t i5 4c4t CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H | <!--Chipset-->Z87 Express | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with Realtek® ALC898 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA H97M D3H r1.0 r1.1 with i3 4360 or 4370 dual | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Z97 A with i7 4790K | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->750, 960, 970 and 980 nvidia GTX cards | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan ethernet | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA Z97X UD3H rev1.0 1.1 1.2 | <!--Chipset-->Z97 with i5 4690K | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with ALC1150 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI GAMING 5 Z97 | <!--Chipset-->Z97 with 4th generation (Haswell) Core i7 4c8t CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS Q87M-E | <!--Chipset-->Q87 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2014 64bit - 4 DDR3 slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->H99 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA 1151 Socket H4 (2015/2018)===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->Skylake CPUs have TPM 2.0 imbedded |- | <!--Name-->Asus H110 Plus H110M-A/DP | <!--Chipset--> with 6th Gen Core and 7th with bios update | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Sunrise Point-H SATA [AHCI mode] [8086 a102] | <!--Gfx-->{{No|Skylake Integrated HD Graphics use PIC-E slot}} | <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC887 Audio CODEC | <!--USB-->Sunrise Point-H USB 3.0 xHCI [8086: a12f] no usb2.0 fallback | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8111GR or 8111H RTL8111 8168 8411}} | <!--Opinion-->ATX with 3 pci-e and 2 DDR4 slots - uatx version smaller - turn off TLSF as it was causing AHI driver to corrupt. Turned off ACPI for errors but works fine once booted - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS H110M-R M-ATX | <!--Chipset-->H110 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 x SATA 6Gb/s | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio Realtek® ALC887 codec | <!--USB-->Intel USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->2016 64bit 6th Gen Skylake Core™ i7/Core™ 6950X i7-6970HQ i7-6700K 4c8t hyperthreading, i5/Core™ i5-6600K 4c4t i3/Pentium® / Celeron® - 2 DDR4 DIMMS Max 32GB 2133MHz - 1 full pci-e and 2 pci-e 1 - |- | <!--Name-->Asus H110T | <!--Chipset-->H110 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->intel igpu only | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Dual Intel/Realtek GbE languard | <!--Opinion-->2016 - mini itx 12v / 19v laptop type rare barrel pin 7.4MM x 5.0MM - 2 sodimm ddr4 slots - no pci-e slot - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2H MATX Rev1.0 | <!--Chipset-->H110 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC887 codec | <!--USB-->2 (USB 3.1 Gen 1) ports with 4 us2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® GbE LAN | <!--Opinion--> 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->Msi H110M-PRO-VH | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 x SATA 6Gb/s | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 | <!--Audio--> Realtek® ALC887 Codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111h | <!--Opinion--> 6th gen intel - 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus H170 Pro Gaming | <!--Chipset-->H170 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->Asmedia USB3.1/3.0 | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI Z170A TOMAHAWK | <!--Chipset-->Z170 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sara, 1 x 2280 Key M(PCIe Gen3 x4/SATA), 1 x 2230 Key E(Wi-Fi) | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan | <!--Opinion-->2016 64bit up to i7 7700k - 2 DDR4 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->GIGABYTE GA-B250M-DS3H HD3P D3H D2V | <!--Chipset-->B250 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2018 coffee lake intel 8th gen |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus | <!--Chipset--> with Kaby Lake X Intel 7th Gen | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> up to 16 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus | <!--Chipset--> Z390 with Kaby Lake X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> up to 16 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> Q370M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> H370M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> B360M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Rampage | <!--Chipset-->x299 with i9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> - up to 24 to 44 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte | <!--Chipset--X299 > | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket LGA 1200 (2020/2022)===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->MSI H510M-A PRO (MS-7D22) | <!--Chipset--> with 10th gen Comet Lake X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2021 64bit - up to 16 pcie lanes rebar possible |- | <!--Name-->Asus PRIME H410M-E Asrock H470M-HDV/M.2 | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus | <!--Chipset--> with 11th gen Rocket Lake X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> up to 16 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket LGA 1700 (2023/ )===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Alder Lake / 14th gen Raptor Lake | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2021 2022 64bit - QoS work to 2 level cpus, P down to E cores - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Meteor Lake / 15th gen Arrow Lake | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2023 2024 64bit 10nm - 3 level cpus, Low Power Island (SOC tile) to E onto P cores - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Lunar lake | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2025 64bit 7nm - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} ===Chromebooks=== For most (EOL) cromebooks, the recommended UEFI path forward is to: *put the device into Developer Mode *disable firmware write protection *flash MrChromebox's UEFI Full ROM firmware *install ChromeOS Flex, Linux, etc See [https://mrchromebox.tech/#home MrChrome], [https://mrchromebox.tech MrChrome] and the [https://www.reddit.com/r/chrultrabook/ chrultrabook subreddit] for more info ChromeOS has several different boot modes, which are important to understand in the context of modifying your device to run an alternate OS: *Normal/Verified Boot Mode Can only boot Google-signed ChromeOS images Full verification of firmware and OS kernel No root access to the system, no ability to run Linux or boot other OSes Automatically enters Recovery Mode if any step of Verified Boot fails Default / out-of-the-box setting for all ChromeOS devices *Recovery Mode User presented with Recovery Mode boot screen (white screen with 'ChromeOS is missing or damaged') Boots only USB/SD with signed Google recovery image Automatically entered when Verified Boot Mode fails Can be manually invoked: On Chromebooks, via keystroke: [ESC+Refresh+Power] On Chromeboxes, by pressing a physical recovery button at power-on On Convertibles/Tablets, by holding the Power, Vol+, and Vol- buttons for 10s and then release Allows for transition from Verified Boot Mode to Developer Mode On Chromebooks/Chromeboxes, via keystroke: [CTRL+D] On Convertibles/Tablets, via button press: Vol+/Vol- simultaneously Booting recovery media on USB/SD will repartition/reformat internal storage and reload ChromeOS Note: The ChromeOS recovery process does not reset the firmware boot flags (GBB Flags), so if those are changed from the default, they will still need to be reset for factory default post-recovery. *Developer Mode "Jailbreak" mode built-in to every ChromeOS device Loosened security restrictions, allows root/shell access, ability to run Linux via crouton Verified Boot (signature checking) disabled by default, but can be re-enabled Enabled via [CTRL+D] on the Recovery Mode boot screen Boots to the developer mode boot screen (white screen with 'OS verification is off' text), The user can select via keystroke <pre> ChromeOS (in developer mode) on internal storage ( [CTRL+D] ) ChromeOS/ChromiumOS on USB ( [CTRL+U] ) Legacy Boot Mode ( [CTRL+L] ) </pre> Boot screen displays the ChromeOS device/board name in the hardware ID string (eg, PANTHER F5U-C92, which is useful to know in the context of device recovery, firmware support, or in determining what steps are required to install a given alternate OS on the device. *Legacy Boot Mode Unsupported method for booting alternate OSes (Linux, Windows) via the SeaBIOS RW_LEGACY firmware Accessed via [CTRL+L] on the developer mode boot screen Requires explicit enabling in Developer Mode via command line: sudo crossystem dev_boot_legacy=1 Most ChromeOS devices require a RW_LEGACY firmware update first Boots to the (black) SeaBIOS splash screen; if multiple boot devices are available, prompt shows the boot menu Note: If you hear two beeps after pressing [CTRL+L], then either your device doesn't have a valid Legacy Boot Mode / RW_LEGACY firmware installed, or legacy boot capability has not been been enabled via crossystem. https://www.howtogeek.com/278953/how-to-install-windows-on-a-chromebook/ Chromebooks don’t officially support other OSs. You normally can’t even install as Chromebooks ship with a special type of BIOS designed for Chrome OS. But there are ways to install, if you’re willing to get your hands dirty and potentially ruin everything [https://mrchromebox.tech/#devices Firmware Compatibility] [https://wiki.galliumos.org/Hardware_Compatibility Here is the list of hardware that the GalliumOS supports and information on getting Gallium OS on to those devices] Development on GalliumOS has been discontinued, and for most users, GalliumOS is not the best option for running Linux due to lack of hardware support or a kernel that's out of date and lacking important security fixes. Meet Eupnea and Depthboot, the successors to Galliumos and Breath [https://eupnea-linux.github.io This is the bleeding edge] Most older Chromebooks need the write-protect screw removed in order to install MrChromebox's firmware that allows you to install other operating systems. Most newer Chromebooks don't work in the same way as there is no write-protect screw on them. Very rough guide to '''total''' (i.e. all cores / threads) processor performance (AROS usually uses only the [https://gmplib.org/gmpbench one core]) [[#top|...to the top]] <pre> 060000 AMD Ryzen 9 7900X (AM5 170W) 056000 AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 055000 AMD Ryzen 9 5900X3D 053000 AMD Ryzen 9 5900X (AM4 105W), AMD Ryzen 9 3950X (105W), 049000 AMD Ryzen 9 PRO 7940HS (FP8 65W) 048000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 047000 AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 7840HS (FP7 65W), AMD Ryzen 7 8840HS, AMD Ryzen Z2 Extreme, 045000 AMD Ryzen 9 6900HX, Intel Core i7-12800H 044000 AMD Ryzen 7 5700G (AM4 ), AMD Ryzen 9 6900HS, 043000 Intel Core i5-13500H, AMD Ryzen 5 5600X3D (AM4 95W), AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 5750GE (AM4 35W) 042000 AMD Ryzen 7 5700GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen Z1 Extreme (top TDP), AMD Ryzen 5 8600G, 041500 AMD Ryzen 9 5900HS, Intel Core i7-12700T, AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS (8c16t 45W), AMD 8840U, 041000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800H (FP6 45W), AMD Ryzen 5 5600 (65W), 040000 AMD Ryzen 7 6800U, Intel Core i5-12490F, Intel Core i5-12500E, 039000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800HS (FP6 35W), AMD Ryzen 5 8500G 8600GE, AMD Ryzen Z2 (8c16t), 037000 AMD Ryzen 5 6600H, AMD Ryzen 3 7736U, AMD Ryzen 5 7640U, 036000 AMD Ryzen 5 3600X (95W), AMD Ryzen 5 5500 (AM4 65W), 035000 AMD Ryzen 5 6600U, Intel Core i5-11400F, AMD Ryzen 5 5600H, 034000 AMD Ryzen 7 7730U (FP6 15W 8c16t), AMD Ryzen 5 8540U, AMD Ryzen 4800H, AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 5650GE, 033000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800U (FP6 25W 8c16t), AMD Ryzen 7 4800HS, AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750GE, 032500 AMD Ryzen 7 2700X, AMD Ryzen 5 5600GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen Z1, AMD Ryzen 7 7840U, 032000 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650G (AM4 45W), AMD Ryzen 7 4800U, AMD Ryzen 7 5825U (FP6 8c16t 15W), 031500 AMD Ryzen 5 4500 (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (65W), AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750U (8c16t), 029000 AMD Ryzen 5 4600G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 1700X (AM4 95W), 028500 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 5675U, AMD Ryzen 7 1700 (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 7 2700 (65W), M3 Pro 12c, 028000 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 5650U, AMD Ryzen 5 4400G, AMD Ryzen 5 5560U (FP6 25W 6c12t Zen3), 027000 AMD Ryzen 5 5600U (FP6 25W 6c12t Zen3), 026500 AMD Ryzen 5 4600HS (FP6 35W 6c12t), Apple M1 Pro, AMD Ryzen 5 5625U (FP6 15W 6c12t), 026000 AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 5350GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen 5 2600 (65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3500X (AM4 95W), 024000 AMD Ryzen 5 1600X (95W), AMD Ryzen 3 5300GE, AMD Ryzen 7 5700U (FP6 25W 8c16t Zen2), 023000 AMD Ryzen 3 7330U (FP6 15W 4c8t), AMD Ryzen 7 4700U (FP6 25W 8c8t), AMD Ryzen V3C18I (? 15W), 022000 Intel Core i5-11300H, AMD Ryzen Z2 Go (4c8t), AMD Ryzen 5 5500U (FP6 25W 6c12t Zen2), 020500 AMD Ryzen 3 4300G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 3 5450U 5425U, AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650U (6c12t), 019500 Intel Core i5-1135G7, AMD Ryzen 5 5500H, AMD Ryzen 5 4600U (FP6 25W 6c), 019000 AMD Ryzen 5 3400G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 2500X, AMD Ryzen 5 7520U, 017750 AMD Ryzen 5 3400GE (AM4 35W), Intel Core i5-8400, AMD Ryzen 5 1500X (AM4 65W), 017500 Intel Core i7-6700K, Intel i5-10400, AMD Ryzen 5 4500U (FP6 25W 6c6t), AMD Ryzen 3 5400U, 017000 AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 4350GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen 3 5300U (FP6 25W 4c8t), 016500 AMD Ryzen 7 3750H, AMD Ryzen Embedded V1756B (FP5 45W), AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 4200GE, 016000 AMD Ryzen 5 2400G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3550H, Intel Core i7-6700T, 015000 AMD Ryzen 3 7320U, Ryzen 7 3700U, Ryzen 3200G (AM4 65W), Intel Core i7-8550U, 014000 AMD Ryzen 5 2400GE (AM4 35W), Intel Core i5-8500T, AMD Ryzen 2700U, AMD Ryzen 5 3550U, 013500 AMD Ryzen 5 3500U (FP5 15W 4c8t), AMD Ryzen 3 4300U, AMD Athlon Gold 4150GE, 013250 AMD Ryzen 3 3200GE (AM4 45W), AMD Ryzen 3 1300X (65W), AMD Ryzen 3 2200G, 013000 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 2500U (FP4 25W), AMD Ryzen Embedded V1605B (FP5 25W), 012500 AMD Ryzen 5 2500U (FP5 25W 4c8t), Intel Core i3-8300T, Intel Xeon X5680, 012300 Intel Core i7-8565U, Intel Core i5-8350U, Intel Core i7-8700, 012200 ARM Cortex-X3 Prime Snapdragon SD8G2 Gen2 4nm 64-bit Kryo CPU, 012000 AMD Ryzen 3 2200GE, AMD Ryzen 3 1200 (65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3500C, 011500 AMD Ryzen 3 3300U, Intel Core i3-8100T, Intel Core i5-8265U 010500 AMD Ryzen 3 2300U (FP5 25W 4c4t), 010300 Intel Core i7-3630QM, Intel Core i5-6600T, 010200 Intel Core i5-6440HQ, Intel Core i7-3610QM, 010000 AMD FX-8320E (AM3+ 125W 8c8t), Intel Core i5-7500T, Intel Core i5-4690, 008700 AMD FX-6130 (AM3+ 90W 6c6t), Intel Core i5-7400T, Intel Core i5-4590T, 008600 Intel Core i5-6500T, AMD Athlon 300GE (AM4, 35W), AMD Athlon Gold 7220U, 008500 AMD Ryzen R1606G (FP5 15W), AMD FX-6300 (AM3 65W 6c6t), Intel Core i5-2500K, 008000 AMD Ryzen 3 3200U, AMD Ryzen 3 3250U, Intel Alderlake ULX N100 / N95, i7-7600U, 007200 AMD Ryzen 3 2200U (FP5 25W 2c4t), Intel Core i3-7100T, Intel Twinlakes N150 N200, 006900 AMD Ryzen R1505G (FP5, 15W), Intel Core i7-6600U, Qualcomm Snapdragon 888 5G, 006500 Intel Core i7-6500U, AMD Athlon Gold 3150U, Intel Celeron N5105 (FCBGA1338, 15W), 006300 Intel Core i3-8130 (15W), Intel Celeron N5095 (FCBGA1338 15W), 006100 Intel Core i5-6300U, Intel Core i5-7200U, Snapdragon 7325, Intel i7-5500U, 006060 AMD A10-6800B APU, Intel Core i5-4570T, Intel Core i5-5257U, 006000 Intel Core i5-6200U, Intel Core i3-7130U, Qualcomm Snapdragon 888 4G, Intel i7-4500U, 005900 AMD Athlon Silver 3050U, Intel Xeon X5550, Intel Core i5-4300M, ARM A76 RK3588, 005800 Intel Celeron J4125 J4105 (FCBGA1090 15W), Intel Core i5-3470T, AMD A8-6600K APU, 005600 Intel Core i5-3360M, Intel Core i7-3520M, Intel Core i5-4210M, ARM A76 RK3588S, 005400 ARM Cortex-A78 MediaTek Dimensity 1200 900, AMD Athlon Silver 7120U, Snapdragon 860, 005300 AMD PRO A12-9800B 7th Gen APU (FP4 15W), AMD FX-4300 4c4t, AMD Ryzen R1305G, 005200 AMD PRO A10-8770E, AMD A10-9700E, AMD PRO A10-9700B (FP4 15W), Intel Core i3-4130T, 005100 AMD RX-427BB (FP3 15W), AMD A10-9620P, AMD A12-9720P, Intel Core i5-5350U, Intel Core i3-8145U, 005100 AMD A8-5500 (FM2 65W), AMD A10 PRO-7800B APU, Intel Pentium Silver N5000, 005100 Intel Core i3-7100U (FCBGA1356 15W), Intel Core i7-5500U, Intel Core i3-6100U, 005000 Intel Core i5-5300U, Intel Core i5-3320M, AMD Athlon 300U, 004900 Intel Core i5-4300U, Intel Core i5-5200U, Intel Core i3-4100M, 004860 Intel Core i7-2620M, Intel Core i7-2640M, 004650 Intel Core i5-2520M, Intel Core i5-3210M, AMD A10-9600P (FP4 4c 15W), 004600 AMD PRO A8-9600B, AMD PRO A12-8830B, AMD PRO A10-8730B, AMD A12-9700P, 004400 AMD A10-8700P A8-8600P, Intel Core i5-4200U, Intel Core i5-2540M, 004000 Intel Core i5-2430M, AMD PRO A8-8600B, AMD 3020e, MT6797, 003850 Intel Core i5-2410M, Intel Core i3-2120 (LGA1155 65W), 003800 AMD A10-4600M APU, AMD A10 PRO-7350B APU, AMD A10-5750M APU, 003600 AMD A8-6500T APU, AMD A8-7410 APU, AMD PRO A6-8550B, AMD A8-5550M APU 003500 AMD GX-424CC SOC (FT3b 25W 4c4t), Intel Core i3-4000M, 003450 ARM A75 Unisoc Tiger T610 (8c 5W), 003400 AMD A10-7300 APU, AMD A6-7310 APU, AMD A8-6410, AMD A10-5745M APU 003350 Intel Pentium G2020, Intel Core i3-3120M, AMD R-464L APU, 003300 AMD GX-420CA SOC (FT3 BGA769 25W), AMD A6-9500E, 003200 AMD A6-6310 APU, AMD A6-6400B APU, AMD A6-8570E, AMD A8-4500M APU, AMD A6-7400K APU 003000 AMD A8-7150B, AMD A9-9410 / A9-9425, AMD A6-8500B (FP4 15W), AMD A8-7100, 002900 AMD PRO A6-8530B, AMD A6-8500P, AMD A8-3500M APU, Intel Core i3-2120T, 002700 AMD Embedded GX-420GI (FP4 15W), AMD PRO A6-9500B, AMD GX-415GA, AMD A4-6210 APU, 002600 AMD A6-9225, AMD A8-4555M APU, 002500 AMD A4-5000 APU (FT3 15W), AMD A6-9220, AMD A6-3420M APU, 002450 Intel Celeron 2950M, Intel Pentium N3700, Intel Core i3-2350M, 002400 Intel Celeron N3150, Intel Core i3-2330M, Intel Xeon W3505, 002300 Intel Celeron N3350, AMD A4-9120, AMD A4-9125, Intel Core i3-2310M, 002200 AMD A9-9420e, AMD A6-5350M APU, AMD E2-6110 APU, AMD A6-9210, AMD E2-9000e, 002000 AMD GX-412HC, AMD A4-4300M APU, AMD A6 PRO-7050B APU, AMD A6-4400M APU, AMD A6-7000, 001925 Intel Core2 Duo E6700, Intel Pentium Extreme Edition 965, Intel Core i3-370M, 001750 Intel Core i3-2365M 2375M, AMD A4-9120C, Intel Core2 Duo T8300, AMD E2-3800, Qualcomm MSM8939, 001600 AMD GX-222GC (BGA769 FT3b 15W), AMD A4-9120e, AMD Embedded GX-215JJ, AMD A4-4355M APU, 001550 Intel Core2 Duo SL9400 T7600 T6600, AMD E2-3200, AMD A6-9220e, MT8783, 001500 AMD GX-218GL SOC, AMD A6-4455M, AMD A4-5150M APU, ARM A55 RK3566 (4c 3W), 001400 AMD GX-217GA SOC, ARM Cortex-A53 4c4t H700, Allwinner A133P, AMD A4-3300M APU, 001300 AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-64 TL-62, Intel Core2 Duo T7300, Intel Core2 Duo T5600, 001250 AMD GX-412TC SOC, AMD A4-3320M APU, AMD Athlon 64 X2 QL-66, Intel Core2 Duo T7200 001200 AMD Athlon 64 X2 2c TK-57, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-60 RM-74, AMD E1-2500 APU 001150 Intel Core2 Duo T5550, Intel Core2 Duo L7500, AMD E2-3000M APU, ARM A35 RK3266, 001100 Intel Core2 Duo T5300, AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800, Intel Core2 Duo E4300, MT8127, 001050 AMD E1-6010 APU, Intel Pentium T4300, 001050 AMD Athlon 64 FX-57, AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core TK-55, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-52 001000 Intel Core2 Duo T5500, Intel Core2 Duo L7300, Intel Core2 Duo SU9400, 000950 AMD G-T56N, AMD Athlon 64 3100+, AMD E2-2000 APU, 000950 AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-50, AMD E1-2200 APU, Intel Celeron U3400, 000925 AMD TurionX2 Dual Core Mobile RM-72, AMD Sempron 140 000920 Intel Celeron SU2300, Intel Core2 Duo T5200, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-56 000890 AMD E2-1800 APU, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-58 000880 AMD G-T56E, AMD G-T48E, 000860 AMD E-450 APU, AMD E-350 APU, AMD Athlon LE-1620 000820 AMD A4-1250 APU, AMD Athlon LE-1600, 000810 AMD E1-2100 APU, Intel Core Duo T2500, 000810 Intel Atom D510, Intel Core2 Duo U7500, 000800 AMD Geode NX 2400+, AMD Turion 64 Mobile ML-42, AMD Athlon II Neo K325, 000760 AMD V140, AMD E1-1200 APU, AMD Athlon 64 3300+, 000730 Intel Core Duo T2400, AMD Turion 64 Mobile MK-38, AMD Sempron 3600+, 000700 Intel Core2 Duo U7600 U7700, AMD Sempron LE-1200, AMD V120 000680 AMD GX-212JC SOC, AMD E-300 APU, AMD A4-1200 APU, 000670 AMD Turion 64 Mobile MK-36 ML-37 ML-40, Mobile AMD Sempron 3800+ 000640 Intel Atom N2600, Intel Atom N570, Mobile AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 000640 Intel Core Duo T2300, Intel Core Duo T2050, 000630 VIA Eden X2 U4200, AMD Sempron LE-1100, AMD Sempron 3100+ 3600+, 000620 AMD C-70 C70 APU, Intel Atom 330, AMD G-T40N, AMD Athlon Neo MV-40, 000610 Intel Core2 Duo U7300, AMD Athlon II Neo K125 K145, 000600 Intel Atom N550, Intel Pentium 4, AMD Athlon 64 2800+, 000580 AMD C-60 C60, AMD G-T40E, AMD Sempron LE-1250 000530 AMD C-50 C50, Intel Celeron M 723, AMD Sempron 210U, 000490 AMD GX-210JA SOC, PowerPC 970 G5 IBM's 970 server CPU (2c), 000470 Mobile AMD Sempron 3500+, Mobile AMD Athlon XP-M 2200+, 000460 AMD Athlon XP 2500+, AMD Sempron 3500+, Mobile Intel Pentium 4, 000440 Intel Atom D425, Intel Atom N470, POWER 4 PPC, 000410 Intel Pentium M, Intel Celeron M, AMD Sempron 2300+ 000400 Intel Atom N450, AMD Sempron 2400+, 000340 Intel Atom D410, AMD G-T52R, AMD C-30, AMD Sempron 2200+ 000330 Intel Atom N455, Intel Atom N280, Intel Atom N270 (1c1t 2W), Intel P3, 000320 Freescale NXP QorIQ P1022 000310 PowerPC G4 7447 1Ghz (1c1t 15W), PPC440 core, 000230 PowerPC PPC G3/PPC 750, 000160 Pentium II, Motorola 68060 000080 Intel 80486, Motorola 68030, 000040 Intel 80386, 000030 Motorola 68020 000008 Motorola 68000 </pre> === Recommended hardware (32-bit) === [[#top|...to the top]] Recommended hardware is hardware that has been tested with latest release of AROS and is relatively easy to purchase second hand (ie. ebay). This hardware also comes with commitment that compatibility will be maintained with each future release. If in future decision will be made to drop any of the recommended hardware from the list (for example due to it no longer being available for purchase), such hardware will move to list of legacy supported systems and will have an indicated end of life date so that users have time to switch to other hardware. {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" | <!--OK-->{{Yes|'''Works well'''}} || <!--Not working-->{{No|'''Does not work'''}} || <!--Not applicable-->{{N/A|'''N/A not applicable'''}} |- |} ==== Virtual Hardware ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | VirtualBox 7.x (Other/Unknown template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|PCNET32<br/>E1000}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- | VMware 16+ (Other32 template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|PCNET32}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- | QEMU 8.x ("pc" and "q35" machines) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|PCNET32}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- |} ==== Laptops ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | ACER Aspire One ZG5 || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(IDE)}} || {{Yes|GMA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|RTL8169}} || {{Yes|ATHEROS}} || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- | Dell Latitude D520 || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{Yes|GMA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|BCM4400}} || {{No|}} || {{Yes|Atheros AR5BXB63}} || * select Intel Core 2 64-bit version, not Celeron 32-bit version <br/> * replace WiFi card to get wireless working |- |} ==== Desktop Systems ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | Fujitsu Futro S720 || {{Yes|SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * no 2D/3D acceleration<br/> * use USB ports at back |- |} ==== Motherboards ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | ASUS P8Z68V LX || {{Yes|SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * add external PCIe video card for better performance |- | Gigabyte GA-MA770T UD3/UD3P || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * requires external PCIe video card |- | ASUS M2N68-AM SE2 || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{Yes|NVIDIA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|NVNET}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * connecting a disk via SATA connector is not supported at this time <br/> * add external PCIe video card for better performance |- | Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2H || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * add external PCIe video card for better performance |- |} ==== Legacy supported hardware ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="10%" |EOL ! width="35%" |Comments |- | iMica || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{Yes|GMA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || 2026-12-31 || |- | Gigabyte GA-MA770 UD3 || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(IDE)}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || 2026-12-31 || * requires external PCIe video card |- |} === Recommended hardware (64-bit) === [[#top|...to the top]] Recommended hardware is hardware that has been tested with latest release of AROS and is relatively easy to purchase second hand (ie. ebay). This hardware also comes with commitment that compatibility will be maintained with each future release. ==== Virtual Hardware ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | VirtualBox 7.x (Other/Unknown (64-bit) template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|PCNET32<br/>E1000}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- | VMware 16+ (Other64 template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|E1000}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- | QEMU 8.x ("pc" and "q35" machines) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|PCNET32}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- |} ==== Motherboards ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | ASUS P8Z68V LX || {{Yes|SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- |} ==References== [[#top|...to the top]] {{reflist}} {{BookCat}} cb7vnlk7c3t2ln04ckthc3kgk2gln41 4520790 4520789 2025-07-01T16:35:27Z Jeff1138 301139 4520790 wikitext text/x-wiki {{ArosNav}} ==Introduction== This a list of computer hardware tested with mostly native AROS installs and, in the recommended sections, of virtual machines With 64bit support it is recommended 8Gb ram is needed and that SSE 4.1 and AVX are supported in the CPU i.e. from year 2012 for Intel CPUs and 2013 for AMD CPUs. They are x86-64 instruction sets designed to perform the same operations on multiple data items simultaneously, a technique known as Single Instruction, Multiple Data (SIMD). This allows for increased performance in tasks involving parallel computation. SSE 4.1 is a 128-bit SIMD instruction set, while AVX introduced 256-bit SIMD, further enhancing performance. Some apps require these features to run well, like 3D, multimedia decoding or JIT (javascript) in Odyssey web browser. If not the apps may work slower or might fail. If you have encountered differently (i.e. problems, incompatibilities, faults, niggles, annoyances, environment, errors, review of setup etc) please update this information. Please bear in mind that AROS has only a few hardware driver developers, whilst Linux counts in the tens and Windows in the hundreds. So consequently, be aware that driver support on native is now a decade behind linux, MacOS(TM) and Windows(TM). Although still being worked upon Alternatively, an hosted OS (windows or linux) of AROS could give better results. [[#Laptops]] [[#Netbook]] [[#Desktop Systems]] [[#Recommended hardware (32-bit)]] [[#Recommended hardware (64-bit)]] === Laptops === [[#top|...to the top]] * 2006/2007 Dell Latitude D-series laptops - business class machines, good support in Aros, easy to replace wifi card * 2006 some [https://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/laptops-portable-pcs/laptops-and-netbooks/toshiba-satellite-pro-a200-28550/review Satellite Pro A200] * 2008 For the tiny carry anywhere, the early run of Acer Aspire netbooks Rough estimate from taking a random laptop notebook what you can expect from a Native install of AROS {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Date ! width="5%" |Overall ! width="5%" |Gfx VESA ! width="5%" |Gfx 2D Acceleration ! width="10%" |Gfx 3D Acceleration ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Before 2002 || Poor to OK || VESA 90% || 2D 10% || {{N/A}} || Audio 10% || 40% || Wired 70% || 2% || Max RAM 512MB |- | 2002-2005 || OK || VESA 95% || 2D 10% || 3D 0% || Audio 30% || 70% || Wired 50% || 4% || Max RAM 1GB |- | 2005-2012 || Good || VESA 98% || 2D 60% || 3D 30% || Audio 60% || 80% || Wired 30% || 10% || Max RAM 2 / 4GB |- | 2013-2017 || OK || VESA 98% || 2D 10% || 3D 0% || Audio 20% || 60% || Wired 20% || 0% || Max RAM 8GB / 16GB |- | 2018-2025 || Poor || VESA 98% || 2D 0% || 3D 0% || Audio 0% || 0% || Wired 20% || 0% || Max RAM 32GB |- | 202X-202x || Poor || VESA 95% || 2D 0% || 3D 0% || Audio 0% || 0% || Wired 10% || 0% || Max RAM 64GB |- |} 3D tests now conducted with apps found in Demos/AROS/Mesa and run at default size (may need to View As -> Show All to see them. Any laptop with Windows 7(TM) 64bit or higher install, the bios and hard drive set in uefi/gpt mode (install of AROS incompatible) Most vendor suppliers get OEM (original equipment manufacturers) to make their laptops. These brand name companies purchase their laptops from *80% ODM (Original Design Manufacturer) such as Quanta, Compal, Wistron, Inventec, Foxconn (Hon Hai), Flextronics and Asus (now Pegatron) *20% MiTAC, FIC, Arima, Uniwill, ECS, Tonfang Origin and Clevo {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" | <!--OK-->{{Yes|'''Works well'''}} || <!--May work-->{{Maybe|'''Works a little'''}} || <!--Not working-->{{No|'''Does not work'''}} || <!--Not applicable-->{{N/A|'''N/A not applicable'''}} |- |} ====Acer/Gateway/Emachines==== Company founded under the name of Multitech in Taiwan in 1976, renamed to Acer or Acer Group in 1987 Order of build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Packard Bell Aspire Extensa TimeLine Travelmate </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="2%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Travelmate 505 506 507 508 Series || <!--Chipset-->P2 Celeron 466Mhz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes|boots}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Neo Magic Magic Graph 128XD (NM2160)}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 Crystal CS}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 minimal support but no audio etc - 506T, 506DX, 507T, 507DX, 508T |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 340 342 343 345 347 || <!--Chipset-->ALi M1621 with piii || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Trident Cyber 9525 || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1969 Solo-1}} || <!--USB-->2 ALi OHCI USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->a few have Intel e100 || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2000 32bit - 340T, 341T, 342T, 342TV, 343TV, 345T, 347TV |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 350 351 352 353 || <!--Chipset-->Ali with piii || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Trident Cyber Blade DSTN/Ai1 || <!--Audio-->{{No|ali5451}} || <!--USB-->2 USB 1.1 Ali M5237 OHCI || <!--Ethernet-->e100 || <!--Wireless-->Acer InviLink IEEE 802.11b || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit very limited support but no support for PCMCIA O2 Micro OZ6933 - 350T, 351TEV, 352TEV, 353TEV |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 610 series 611 612 613 614 || <!--Chipset-->815 P3 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 82815 cgc || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->Intel e100 pro || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit - 610TXVi 610T 611TXV 612TX 613TXC |- | Aspire 3003LM || SIS AMD 3000 1.8GHz || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SIS AGP M760GX (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97 SIS codec}} || 3 USB 2.0 || {{yes|SIS900}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4318 AirForce One 54g}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 sempron |- | Travelmate 2310 Series ZL6 || Intel Celeron M 360 1.4GHz with SiS 661MX || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SiS Mirage M661MX (VESA only)}} || {{yes|SIS SI7012 AC97 with realtek ALC203 codec speakers only}} || || {{yes|SIS900}} || {{N/A|LM version has pci card slot but no antenna}} || Icaros 2.1.1 || 2004 32bit - No USB boot option but boot from DVD - reports of wifi losing connection (isolate/remove the metallic grounding foil ends of the antennas) - 2312LM_L - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 3000 3002LMi 3500 5000 || <!--Chipset-->AMD CPU W-with SIS M760 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->SIS 760 || <!--Audio-->SIS || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->SIS 900 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4318 swap for Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 3050 5020 5050 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Single and Turion MK-36 Dual and RS480 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - RS482M Xpress 1100 or RS485M Xpress 1150 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio Realtek ALC883 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5006G or Broadcom BCM 4318 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit MK36 gets very hot |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 2410 2420 2430 series || <!--Chipset-->915GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel Mobile 915GMS 910GML || <!--Audio-->Intel AC97 ICH6 with ALC203 codec || <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL-8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5005GS || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 2428AWXMi - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 3610 - WISTRON MORAR 3614WLMI || <!--Chipset-->Intel 915 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 2D and 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|[http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=644066&postcount=13 AC97]}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL 8139 8139C+}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros AR5001X+, AR5BMB5 or Broadcom 4318}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.2.4 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit with good support [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6205188#post6205188 wifi issues] |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 2480 series 2483 WXMi (HannStar J MV4 94V) 2483NWXCi Aspire 3680, 3690 || <!--Chipset-->940GML i943 with Celeron 430 1.77GHz - 14.1" || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D and 3D openGL 1.x - Tunnel 181 gearbox 104 scores}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC883 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|3 USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8038 yukon sky2}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 5k AR5005G AR5BMB5 mini pci}} suspect laptop hardware issues || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 Works well shame about the internet options - noisy fan - poor battery life - no boot option for TI based mass storage sd card - Max 2GB memory - LCD Inverter Board IV12090/T-LF - |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 2490 series 2492WXMi || <!--Chipset-->940GML || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 945 2D and 3D tunnel 164 gearbox 105}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR5005GS suspect hardware issue}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit - 15inch screen - strange curved up at ends keyboard style - overall plastic construction - Atheros AR5005G(s) - |- | <!--Name-->Gateway ML6227B MA7 || <!--Chipset-->Celeron M 520 1.6Ghz with 945GM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|945GM 2D and 3D tunnel 169 gearbox 132}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDA Intel with STAC9250 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8038}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|8187L but swap ath5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 15.4 ultrabrite widescreen - Wifi Switch on side Fn/F2 - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 5630-6796 6288 BL50 || <!--Chipset-->T5200 T5500 Intel® Core™2 Duo T7200 T7400 T7600 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel® GMA 950 with S-Video out}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 USB}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom BCM4401}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945abg swap for Atheros 5K}} || <!--Test Distro-->Tiny AROS || <!--Comments-->2006 - 64bit 39.1 cm (15.4" 1280 x 800) - 2 DDR2-SDRAM slots max 4GB - green mobo?? - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 5633WMLI BL51 || <!--Chipset-->T5500 with Intel® 945PM/GM Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia Go 7300}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with Realtek codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom 440x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 swap for Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Tiny Aros || <!--Comments-->2007 64 bit dual core2 - 15.4 WXGA screen - ddr2 max 4gb - OrbiCam no support - ENE chipset SD card - blue mobo?? - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 9410 9420 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core Duo with 945PM Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300 - 128 MB VRAM G72M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel HD audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 8111 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945ABG but could swap with atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - 17in TFT 1,440 x 900 WXGA+ - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->eMachines E510 series KAL10 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Celeron M 560 2.13Ghz with PM965 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel x3100 || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel with codec}} || <!--USB-->Intel || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5906M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros G AR5BXB63 bios issue??}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2007 32bit very budget machine with InsydeH20 bios and F10 boot menu |- | <!--Name-->ACER Aspire 5920 5920G || <!--Chipset-->Santa Rosa Core 2 Duo T7300 T7500 later T9300 with GM965 and PM965(G) Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for X3100M or 8600M GS (rev a1) 9500M GT 256MB vram (G) but some AMD/ATI RV635 M86 HD 3650}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with realtek alc888 codec ICH8}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5787M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945ABG 4965 or Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro-->Deadwood test iso 2023-01 2023-11 || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit boot with 'noacpi' or 'noioapic' - 15.4in 1280 x 800 pixels 16:10 - BMW Designworks ‘Gemstone’ design - over 3.0kg with options for 8-cell or 6-cell batteries - 2 SODIMM DDR2 667MT/s max 4GB - synaptics touchpad - |- | <!--Name-->Acer A0521 Ao721 || Athlon II Neo K125 + AMD M880G || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{maybe|ATI Radeon HD 4225 (VESA only)}} || {{No|Conexant}} || {{Maybe}}|| {{no|AR8152 l1c}} || {{no|AR9285 ath9k}} || AspireOS 1.7 || 2006 64bit possible |- | <!--Name--> Extensa 5630Z || <!--Chipset-->T6600 with Intel GL40 Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Yes|Intel GMA 4500M HD (2D)}} || <!--Audio--> {{Yes|HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> {{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet--> {{No|Broadcom BCM 5764M}} || <!--Wireless--> {{No|RaLink RT2860}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit |- |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 5250 series 5253 BZ400 BZ602 || <!--Chipset-->E350 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{no|VESA 2D for AMD HD6310}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDaudio for codec Conexant CX20584}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8151}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros 9k AR5B97}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire V5 V5-121 V5121 AO725 One 725 || <!--Chipset-->AMD C-70 C70 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{no|VESA for AMD 6290G}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|Realtek ALC269 codec}} || <!--USB-->2 x USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire V5-122P MS2377 || <!--Chipset-->C-70 C70 with M55, AMD A4-1250 or A6 1450 up to 1.4Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->AMD 8210 || <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec || <!--USB-->FCH USB EHCI OHCI || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169 but LAN/VGA Combo Port Cable (AK.LAVGCA 001) or MiniCP port to Acer Converter Cable (Mini CP to VGA/LAN/USB) (NP.OTH11 00C) needed}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros 9k AR9565}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aros One || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit but no sse4 or avx - 26w battery internal, extension possible - 11.6in 1366 x 768 ips touchscreen - 7mm hd ssd - 2gb ddr3l soldered with 1 slot free max 4GB - bios hacking needed for virtualisation - |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell EasyNote TE69 TE69KB 522 || <!--Chipset-->slow E1-2500, E2-3800 2c2t Dual or A4-5000 4c4t Quad both soldered BGA769 (FT3) on Hudson-2 FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Use IDE mode}} setting AHCI to IDE mode - boots if UEFI set to Legacy || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for ATI Radeon 8120 8240, 8320, 8330 or 8280 islands}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AMD Azalia HD Audio with ALC282 0x10ec0282 codec but not HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|Bios, Boot, set Boot mode to Legacy, nothing from USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8171 AR8175 or Broadcom BCM57780}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9565 0x1969 0x10a1}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aspire OS Xenon and AROS One 1.6 usb || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit with sse4.1 and AVX - 15.6in washed out screen big netbook - Boots with noacpi after using F2 to enter EFI firmware and f12 boot device - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots max 16Gb - |- | <!--Name-->ASPIRE Acer Aspire ES1-520 521 522 Series N15C4 ES1-523 || <!--Chipset-->AMD AMD E1-7010, A8-7410 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA for RADEON R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|Realtek ALC 233 or CX20752 HD AUDIO CODEC}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8151 Gigabit or Broadcom 590x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek RTL8187 or 8812BU}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aros One || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit with sse4.1 and AVX - 2 ddr3l slots - keyboard connected to top case - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 3, 5 A515-44-R0ZN || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 4500u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in or 15.6" 1080p - 19v round charging - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr0tC3QJWxk repair], 4gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Swift 3 SF314-43, Swift SF315-41 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 7 5700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 1080p - small round ac or usb-c - |- | <!--Name-->Swift 3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Asus==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Asus L8400-K Medion MD9467 || <!--Chipset-->Intel desktop 850MHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->S3 Savage MX || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS allegro 1988}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Asus L2000 L2400 L2D Series Medion 9675 || <!--Chipset-->Athlon 4 mobile || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use vesa sis630 || <!--Audio-->{{No|sis7018}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->sis900 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->x51R X51RL || <!--Chipset-->Duo T2250 T2330 with RS480 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|boots and detects}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL-8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR5006EG AR5111 ath5k AzureWave AW-GE780 - could be ATI Chipset}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2, deadwood 2021, || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit 15.4 WXGA - 19v barrel - ESC boot select - F2 bios - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Asus R2H Ultra Mobile PC UMPC || <!--Chipset-->Celeron 900Mhz 910GML || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA900 || <!--Audio-->Ac97 ALC880 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8169 8101e || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm4fOrqyj3g boots] |- | <!--Name-->Asus A3 series A3F Ergo Ensis 211 RM || <!--Chipset-->P-M 1.6GHz to Core Duo with 950 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945 || <!--Audio-->Ac97 ALC655 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8100CL 10/100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit only |- | <!--Name-->Z33 || <!--Chipset-->915 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->915GM || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC880 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 2915ABG || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit Z33A Z33AE N5M N5A |- | Z70A Z70V Z70Va M6A z7000 z7000a || i915 + ICH6 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|mobile 915GML}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|ICH6 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Marvell 88E8001}} || {{no|Intel PRO 2200BG Fn / F2}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2005 32bit |- | [http://www.progweb.com/en/2010/09/linux-sur-un-portable-asus-a6jm/ A6jm] A6JC || 945GM || IDE || SATA || {{yes|nVidia GeForce Go 7600 G70}} || {{no|HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|RTL8111 8168B}} || {{no|Intel 3945 ABG}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2006 32bit only |- | <!--Name-->F3Jc || <!--Chipset-->945PM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->G72M Quadro NVS 110M, GeForce Go 7300 || <!--Audio-->D audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8169 8111 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->X50GL F5GL || <!--Chipset-->T5800 with 965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA 2d - Nvidia 8200M G84 runs hot}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio MCP79 with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|MCP79}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR5B91 AW-NE77}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2 || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit not much support no display with nouveau - 19v barrel - ddr2 max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS G50 & G51 series G50V G50Vt G51V G51VX G51J G51Jx G50VT X1 X5 ROG || <!--Chipset-->AMD64 with MCP71 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} || <!--Gfx-->nVidia GeForce 9800M GS (G94M) up to GT200 [GeForce GTX 260M] (G92M) || <!--Audio-->Nvidia HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros L1C atl1c}} || <!--Wireless-->Atheros G or Intel || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit not all GPUs are failing but a much higher % failing early, 8x00 and 9x00 G84, G86, G92, G94, and G96 series chips dying - ddr2 max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->M50V M50 series || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core 2 Duo P8400 or T9400 with Intel PM45 ICH9 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|BIOS set to compatibility IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GS or 9650M GT || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC663 || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 realtek 8169 8111C}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 5100 or Atheros AR928X}}|| <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.0 USB || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit - 15.40 inch 16:10, 1680 x 1050 glossy - the "Infusion" design - heavy 3kg - ddr2 ram max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->Series F9 F9E F9dc F9f F9j F9s || <!--Chipset-->965GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Vesa}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio ALC660 playback}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|works}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|intel 3495 not working}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.41 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit - ddr2 max 4gb - |- | P52F SO006X || i3-370M || IDE || SATA || {{yes|nVidia G92 [GeForce 9800 GT] (2D)}} || {{no|Intel HD Audio}} || {{yes|2 USB2.0}} || {{no|Atheros AR8121 AR8113 AR8114 (l1e)}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2010 64bit - ddr3 slot - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Asus * X53U MB Ver K53U or K52U Asus K53U MB Ver K53U * A53U XT2 X53B MB ver: K53BY (compal) || <!--Chipset-->Slow atom like speed E-350 (2011), E-450 (2011) on AMD M780G, much slower C-50 C50 (2012), C-60 C60 on the AMD A50M dark brown plastic build || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|Set IN Bios IDE MODE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA ATi 6310M, 6320M later 6250M or 6290M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with alc269 codec Altec Lansing® Speakers}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|3 x USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|rtl8169 with RTL8111 phy}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros half height ar9285 cannot swap with ar5000 mini pci-e as smaller card required}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 and AROS One 1.6 USB || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6in 1368 x 768 dull 50% srgb screen - f2 bios setup, esc boot drive - 5200 or 7800 mAh battery covers ASUS K53S K53E X54C X53S K84L X53SV X54HR K53F X53U laptops - 2 DDR3L slots max 8Gb - 19v barrel 5.5 / 2.5 mm - |- | <!--Name-->Asus K53T, Asus A53Z X53Z || <!--Chipset-->AMD A4-3305M on AMD M780G, A6-3420M dark brown plastic build || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|Set IN Bios IDE MODE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD 6520G, 7670M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|3 x USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 with RTL8111 phy}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros half height}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6in 1368 x 768 dull 50% srgb screen - f2 bios setup, esc boot drive - 2 DDR3L slots max 8Gb - 19v barrel 5.5 / 2.5 mm - Altec Lansing® Speakers - |- | <!--Name-->X55U X401U X501U 1225B || <!--Chipset-->slow C-60 C60, C-70 C70 or E1 1200 E2 1800 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->6290G || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9485 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6" display - ram soldered - |- | <!--Name-->Asus A43TA A53TA K53TA XE2 A73T || <!--Chipset-->AMD A4-3300M, A6 3400M (laptop chip) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|Set IN Bios IDE MODE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA AMD Radeon HD 6520G Integrated + HD 6470M (1GB GDDR3)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - f2 bios setup, esc boot drive - |- | <!--Name-->X102BA || <!--Chipset-->Llano E1 1200 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|ide bios setting}} || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 8180 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 10.1” Touchscreen - special asus 45w ac adapter - |- | <!--Name-->K55N, K75DE || <!--Chipset-->AMD a6 4400M A8 4500M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD 7640G || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC codec none through ATi Trinity HDMI || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9485 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 17.3-inch - |- | <!--Name-->X452EA X552EA F552E || <!--Chipset-->AMD E1 2100 or A4 5000M A8 4500M A10 4600M with A || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for AMD ATI Sun XT Radeon HD 8330 8670A 8670M 8690M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AMD FCH Azalia rev 02 with ALC898 codec}} || <!--USB-->USB3 with USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{{Yes|Realtek RTL8111 8168 8411}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9485}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit may support avx kabini trinity - |- | <!--Name-->Asus X555Y - keyboard from Asus X555B X555D X555L X555S X555U X555Y X555LA fits? silver-colored plastic || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-7210 A8-7410 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk }} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for AMD R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->Realtek || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr3 slot - silver-colored plastic - internal battery - |- | <!--Name-->Asus X555D || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-8700P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for AMD R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr3 slot - silver-coloured plastic - internal battery - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS X555Q || <!--Chipset-->AMD® Bristol Ridge A10-9600P 7th Gen, A12-9720p || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->R5 + Radeon™ R6 M435DX Dual Graphics with VRAM GCN 3 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8821AE || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - FHD 15.6 1920x1080 - 37W battery internal - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr3 slot - internal battery - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M509ba || <!--Chipset-->AMD A9-9425 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->RADEON R5 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot max 16Gb - 19VDC 2.37A Max 45W 4.0mm x 1.35mm - keyboard swap problematic - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset-->AMD || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVme || <!--Gfx-->AMD || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS Vivibook M509DA X509DA M509DJ M509DL or M409DJ M409DA X409DA M409BA || <!--Chipset-->AMD® Ryzen™ 2c Athlon Silver 3050U 3200U, 4c AMD® Ryzen™ 5 3500U 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->{{No|nvme}} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for AMD Vega 5 8 or nvidia MX230 MX250}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS one || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14" or 15" transparent Silver Slate Grey - 4 or 8g soldered and 1 ddr4 sodimm slot max 8g - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ExpertBook P1410, ASUS ExpertBook P1 P1510CD || <!--Chipset-->3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit 14in or 15.6in - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ZenBook UM431DA, Vivobook X515DA M515DA, VivoBook X512DA M512DA, || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3500u 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVme || <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega 8 or 10 || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14" 1080p - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Zenbook 14 UM433, UM425IA, Vivobook M413DA || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 4500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in 1080p - asus round ac - |- | <!--Name-->Vivobook X513, Asus Vivobook 15 M513 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 5500U, 7 5700u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme and might have 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - round asus ac - |- | <!--Name-->Zenbook Flip 14 || <!--Chipset-->AMD R7 6800H || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 14inch 1080p - |- | <!--Name-->Vivobook Go 15 E1504FA || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 7320U, AMD Ryzen 5 7520U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio for codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No| USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ==== Dell ==== [[#top|...to the top]] Order of build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Studio Inspiron Vostro XPS Alienware Precision Latitude </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="10%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Latitude CP 233GT, CPi d233xt d266xt D300XT a366xt, CPt S400GT S500GT S550GT S600GT S700ST, CPt C333GT C400GT || <!--Chipset-->Neo Magic || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - Neo magic Magic Media 2160 2360 256ZX || <!--Audio-->{{No|crystal pnp 4237b or magic media 256zx sound nm2360}} || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit Low-Density 16-chip 144p 144-pin 32Mx64 3.3V SODIMM - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Latitude CPx H450GT H500GT H Series, CPt V433GT V466GT V600, Inspiron 5000 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 440BX with Pentium 3M (CPx) or Celeron (CPt) || <!--IDE-->{{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use Vesa - ATi Rage Pro Mobility M1}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1978 Maestro 2E Canyon 3D}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|1 slot 1.1 only}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Test Distro-->NB May 2013 || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit - 3 pin PA-6 PA6 power adapter plug - CDROM DVD Cxxx family media bay accessories untested |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C500 C600 (Quanta TM6) Inspiron 4000 7500, CPx J Series || <!--Chipset-->440BX ZX/DX || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|ATI Rage 128Pro Mobility M3 (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|ES1983S Maestro 3i}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 1.1 only}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A|some models had mini pci e100}}|| <!--Wireless-->{{N/A|a few came with internal antenna wiring}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->1999 square 3 pin charger PA9 PA-9 - C/Dock II untested - C/Port untested - Parallel to Floppy cable untested - CPx J600GT J650GT J700GT J750GT J800GT J850GT |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C510 C610 Insprion 4100 PP01L 2600 || <!--Chipset-->i830 and 1GHz+ P3-M || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|use VESA - ATI Radeon Mobility M6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 CS4205}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|3Com Etherlink}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|internal antenna wiring for an Atheros mini pci card}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2000 poor build quality - hard to find in good working order |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C400 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 830 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Intel 830 CGC}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ac97 Crystal 4205}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|3Com 3c905C TX/TX-M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2000 Slim for the time - no media bays |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C640 (Quanta TM8) C840 Inspiron 8k2 8200 i8200 precision m50 || <!--Chipset-->P4M with 845EP || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA if ATi - use nouveau if 64mb Nvidia Gforce 4 440 Go || <!--Audio-->AC97 CS4205 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->3com 905c || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 C640 had one fan so was noisy and hot - C840 had 2 fans and ran slightly cooler but fan noise louder |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | Latitude D400 || P-M 82845 || {{yes|82801 ide}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|VESA only}} || {{yes|AC97 Audio playback only}} || {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || {{maybe|PRO 100 VM (KM)}} || {{no|BCM4318 AirForce one 54g replace with atheros 5k mini pci}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit might boot from USB stick but won't boot from USB-DVD - no sd card slot - power plug style - |- | Latitude D500 / D505 PP10L, Inspiron 510m || 855GME * revA00 * revA03 * revA06 | {{yes|IDE but needs the Dell adapter}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|855GM Gfx (VESA only)}} || {{Yes|Intel AC97 with IDT STAC 9750 codec playback head phones only}} || {{maybe| }} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VE}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4306 but exchange with atheros g in panel on laptop bottom}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || 2003 - 14 / 15 inch XGA 4:3 screen - plastic build - no sd card slot - boots from bay optical drive - not powering on/off with ac adapter is a [http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=37&topicid=30585 mobo fault of PC13 SMT 1206 ceramic cap hot] suggest [http://www.die4laser.com/D505fix/ 0.1uF 50V instead] - pc2700 333Mhz ram 1Gb max - |- | Latitude D505 (some) || VIA VT8237 VX700 || {{yes|IDE}} || || {{partial|VESA 2d on ATI RV350 Radeon 9550}} || {{no|VIA AC97 with codec}} || {{maybe|VIA USB glitchy}} || {{yes|VIA VT6102 Rhine-II}} || {{no|Intel 2200g Calexico2}} || <!--Test Distro--> || 2003 32bit little support - diagnostics pressing holding the Fn key, press the Power ON button (battery removed). Check the LEDs pattern - cmos battery behind flap in laptop battery slot - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1000 || <!--Chipset-->SIS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use VESA SIS}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 SIS with AD1981B codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|SIS 900 but}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit [https://forum.level1techs.com/t/my-time-with-icaros-desktop-and-what-i-am-doing-as-a-dev-contributor-also-some-other-shit/113358 aremis using it] |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1100 PP07L || <!--Chipset-->845 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Intel 845G}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC'97 playback}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom 4401}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2004 |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 8500 5150 || <!--Chipset-->P4 855GM || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia 5200 Go - VESA if intel gfx}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|MCP AC97 with SigmaTel 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom 440x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4306 rev 02 use Atheros Mini PCI}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit P4 runs well but hot |- | Latitude X300 PP04S small, slim and light case || 855GME * revA00 Intel ULV 1.2 Ghz * revA01 Intel ULV 1.4Ghz | {{yes|IDE internal and will boot cd/dvd through dock PR04S}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|855GM Gfx (VESA only)}} || {{Yes|Intel AC97 with STAC 97xx codec but no audio out of the dock}} || {{maybe|works but dock usb ports and usb DVD PD01S not detected}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM5705M gigabit}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4306 later intel - replace with atheros in the underside}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1, AROS One 1.6 usb, || 2003 12.1" 1024 x 768 - 19.5v PA-10 or PA-12 dell - ACPI works but bad s3 ram suspend sleep - no sd card boot - 1Gb max sodimm ddr 2700 |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D600 (Quanta JM2) PP05L - 600m || <!--Chipset-->82855 PM i855 * reva00 * revA01 * revA02 * revA03 * revA04 | <!--IDE--> {{yes}} || <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA - ATI Radeon RV250 Mobility FireGL 9000}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 - STAC 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5705}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 2100 or Broadcom BCM4306 - swap for Atheros panel in base}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.3 and [http://www.amiga.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-62187.html 1.4.1 and 2.1.1] || <!--Opinion-->2003 32bit 14inch using pc2100 memory with Caps light blinking is usually a memory error - Dell D505 D600 power up pressing the case docking port - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D600 (Quanta JM2) || <!--Chipset-->82855 PM i855 || <!--IDE--> {{yes}} || <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D only vidia NV28 GeForce4 Ti 4200 Go 5200 Go 5650 Go}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 - STAC 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5705}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom BCM4306 mini pci - swap for Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.3 and [http://www.amiga.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-62187.html 1.4.1] || <!--Opinion-->2003 32bit 14" - solder joints on the bios chip (press down f7/f8 keys) - RAM clean with eraser - memory cover plate maybe apply some pressure - |- | <!--Name-->D800 (Compal LA-1901) || <!--Chipset-->Intel 855 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom 570x || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom 4309 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - trackpoint type pointing device - |- | <!--Name-->D800 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 855 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{No|Nvidia }} || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom 570x || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom 4309 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit 15inch 39cm |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1200 2200 PP10S Latitude 110L m350 1.3Ghz || <!--Chipset-->Intel 915GM || <!--IDE--> {{yes|UDMA boots cd or DVD and installs to HDisk}} || <!--SATA--> {{N/A}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA900 (2D and 3D openGL 1.x) Gearbox 56}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 playback only}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Intel PRO 100 VE}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|BroadCom BCM4318 - swap for Atheros mini PCI in base panel}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.5 || <!--Comments-->2005 single core 32bit 14" 4:3 1024 768 XGA screen - heavy 6 lbs - PA16 barrel 19V 3.16A AC adapter - battery life 4cell 29WHr lasts 2 hours - 256mb soldered with 1 ddr pc2100 sodimm 1gb max - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1300 business B130 home PP21L Latitude 120L B120 by Compal - Inspiron 630m || <!--Chipset-->Intel Celeron M360 1.4GHz, M370 1.50 GHz, M380 1.73GHz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes|boots cd or DVD and installs to HDisk}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 915 2D and 3D openGL 1.x tunnel 172 gearbox 70}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio playback ear phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|works but waiting boot fail with AROS One usb version}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom 440x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|intel 2200 or BCM4318 swap for Atheros mini pci underside - one antenna lead for main wifi}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2, AROS One 1.6 usb, || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit single core - 14.1″ XGA 4:3 or 15.4" WXGA wide 1280 x 800 matte - ddr2 sodimm ram 2gb max - PA-16 19v psu tip 7.4mm * 5mm - f10 boot select f1 f2 bios |- | Latitude X1 PP05S || PP-M GMA915 rev A00 1.1GHz non-pae || {{yes|ide 1.8in zif/ce under keyboard}} || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|Vesa for Intel 915GM}} || {{yes|AC97 6.6 playback only with STAC codec}} || {{maybe|USB 2.0 but partial boot to blank screen}} || {{No|Broadcom 5751}} || {{no|Intel 2200BG - swap for Atheros mini pci under keyboard palm rest - disassembly of all laptop}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 dvd iso image virtualbox'd onto usb, Aros One 1.5 and 1.8 usb (2022) || 2005 32bit 12.1" 4:3 1024 x 768 - sd slot not bootable - 256mb soldered to board and 1 sodimm max 1GB ddr2 under keyboard - F12 bios boot F2 - pa-17 pa17 19v octagonal psu port |- | Latitude D410 PP06S *rev A00 *A01, A02 *A03 || GMA915 1.6GHz Pentium® M 730, 1.7GHz, 750 1.86GHz & 760 2.0GHz, 770 2.13GHz || {{yes|caddy and adapter needed 2.5" - remove hdd and write}} || {{N/A}} || {{Yes|Intel 915GM 2D and 3D OpenGL 1.3 tunnel 170 and gearbox 75}} || {{yes|AC97 playback only with STAC 9751 codec}} || {{maybe|works but will not boot from USB-DVD or AROS One 1.5 usb version}} || {{No|Broadcom 5751}} || {{no|Intel 2915ABG or later 2200BG - swap for Atheros mini pci under keyboard}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4, 2.1.1 and AROS One 1.5 usb, || 2005 32bit 12.1" 4:3 1024 x 768 - no sd card slot - PR06S dock base |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D510 (Quanta DM1) || <!--Chipset-->915GM socket 479 || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 915 2D and 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 STAC 975x}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG swap Atheros mini pci in base}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 14.1" 32bit single core Intel Celeron M 1.6GHz Pentium M 730 1.73Ghz - squarish 3:2 - issues with 3rd party battery 4 quick flashes of red led with 1 final green |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D610 (Quanta JM5B) PP11L || <!--Chipset-->910GML 915GM with mobile 1.6 to 2.26ghz * Rev A0x * Rev A0x * Rev A07 1.73Ghz | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 915 2D and 3D tunnel 174 gearbox 74}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 speaker head phones playback only with stac codec}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 2200BG or Broadcom mini pci under keyboard, swap wifi card for atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 14" 1024 x 768 - very noisy clicky trackpad buttons - one dimm slot under keyboard and other in underside 2GB 533Mhz 667Mhz DDR2 max - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D610 (Quanta JM5B) 0C4717 REV A05, 0K3879 REV.A00 || <!--Chipset-->915GM || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA 2d - Ati X300 no radeon 2d}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG mini pci use Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 14" 1024 x 768 - very noisy clicky trackpad buttons - 19.5v psu |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D810 (Quanta ) || <!--Chipset-->915GM || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA 2d - Ati X300 RV370 M22 later x600}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 stereo playback only idt 9751 codec}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0 but no boot from usb on 1.5}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG mini pci replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1, aros one 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 15.4" F12 one time boot menu - 19.5v 90w psu ideal - battery not same as later dx20 ones - |- | <!--Name-->Studio XPS M1210 || <!--Chipset-->GM945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->nVidia G72M 7300 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92xx || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401 B0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4311 - swap for Atheros 5k mini pci-e}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Inspirion E1705 9200 9300 9400 || <!--Chipset-->945GM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia 6800, ati X300 or nVidia 7900GS gpu 3d corrupt || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 swap with Atheros 5k mini pcie || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->[http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=6481 increasing vertical lines issues] |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1501 PP23LA Latitude 131L || <!--Chipset-->AMD on ATI RS480 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA 2d - ATI 1150 (x300) RS482M Mobility Radeon Xpress 200}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with stac 92xx codec}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom bcm 4401}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bcm4311 replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit 15.4 inch Matt 16:10, 1280x800 pixel, WXGA TFT Display - first Dell AMD machine - Sempron 1.8GHz Turion MK-36 or X2 1.6Ghz TL-50 or TL-56 |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 6000 6400, E1505 PP20L, 9300, 9200 PP14L *A00 Pentium M *A0? Core Duo || <!--Chipset-->GM945 with PM 1.73Ghz, T2050 or T2060 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|vesa 2d - Ati 9700, x1300 RV515 M52, x1400 or nvidia go 7300 on mxm board}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio IDT 9200}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|usb boot }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom BCM4401 B0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200 3945 - swap for Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1, AROS One 1.6 || <!--Comments-->2006 mostly 32bit but - 15.4 inch glossy - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots - broadcom bcm92045 bluetooth detected but no support - 19.5v dell psu socket - f2 bios setup, f12 boot order - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 6400 (Quanta FM1) *A00 Pentium M *A0? Core Duo *A08 Core2 Duo || <!--Chipset-->GM945 with BGA479 (socket M) T2050 1.6Ghz, T2060 1.60Ghz, T2080 1.73Ghz much later T5500 1.66Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 2D and 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with IDT 92xx codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom BCM4401 B0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4311 swap for Atheros 5k mini pci-e under keyboard}} || <!--Test Distro-->deadwood 2019-04-16 iso || <!--Comments-->2006 mostly 32bit - 15.4" glossy - sd card - front multimedia keys - dvd rw - generic dell keyboard - coin cr2032 bios battery under keyboard - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 640m PP19L XPS M140 e1405 || <!--Chipset-->Core Solo T2050, T2300 Duo 1.83GHz T2400 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM4401-B0 100Base || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 or Broadcom 43xx, swap for Atheros 5k - Wireless Internet ON or OFF press the Function key + F2}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32 bit - 12.1 LCD CCFL WXGA 1280x800 up to 14.1 inch 16:10 1440x900 pixel, WXGA+ UltraSharp - supports also SSE3 on duos - |- | <!--Name-->Precision M65 M90 XPS M1710 || <!--Chipset-->945PM with T2600 T2700 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->nVidia Quadro FX 350M 1600M 1500M G71 on par with the Go7900 GS to GTX 7950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with STAC 92XX codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5752 || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom BCM4311 BCM4328 swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 17" workstation type WXGA+ screen manufactured by AU Optronics poor viewing angles, unevenly lit, light leakage |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D420 (Compal LA-3071P) PP09S || <!--Chipset-->945 * revA00 Solo 1.2Ghz ULV U1400 * revA01 Duo 1.06Ghz u2500 * revA02 Duo 1.2Ghz | <!--IDE-->{{yes|ZIF/CE 1.8" slow under battery, ribbon cable}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA950 - 2D and 3D opengl tunnel 138 gearbox 103}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with STAC 92xx playback speakers head phones only)}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|2 and external usb optical drive works}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 mini pcie - swap Atheros 5k in base panel}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros Desktop 1.4 || <!--Opinion-->2006 32bit only - 12.1" 1280x800 - PR09S dock base rev02 DVD-RW usb boots - 1GB DDR2 2Rx16 max in base panel - f2 setup f5 diagnostics f12 boot list - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D520 PP17L || <!--Chipset--> * 64bit rev A01, A02 945GM Core2 Duo 1.83Ghz to 2.3Ghz * 32bit rev A00, A01 940GML Solo later Duo T2400 | <!--IDE-->{{yes|DVD-ROM Rev00 Philips SDR089 - CDRW/DVDROM Philips CDD5263 or TEAC DW224EV - DVD+-RW Rev00 Optiarc AD-5540A or HL-DL-ST GSAT21N, rev01 TSSTcorp TS-L632D}} || {{Yes|bios sata set to ide mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 900 series 2D and OpenGL1 3D tunnel 210 gearbox 153 teapot 27}} || {{Yes|HD audio with STAC 9200 codec}} || {{Yes|Boots and detects USB2.0}} || {{Yes|Broadcom 4400}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4312 BCM4321 Dell 1390 / 1490 mini pcie - easy to replace with atheros 5k in base panel}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4 and 2.2 and AROS One usb 1.8 and grub boot add 'noacpi' || 2006 mostly 64bit 4:3 aspect ratio 14.1 (XGA 1024x768) or later 15 inches (XGA+ 1400 by 1050) - F2 enter bios F12 choose boot - 19.5v dell tip pa-12 charger - bios coin cell cr2032 battery socketed in base panel - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D620 (Compal LA-2792) PP18L || <!--Chipset-->945GMS * rev A00 all Core Duo's 32 bit * rev A0x all Core 2 Duo's 64 bit | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 950 (2D and 3D tunnel gearbox opengl1 || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio playback}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 3945 mini pcie swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->AspireOS Xenon || <!--Opinion-->2006 64bit AROS capable with later revisions - 14" 1280 x 800 |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D620 || <!--Chipset-->Intel i945 * revA00 all Core Duo's 32 bit * revA01 all Core 2 Duo's 64 bit | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia 7300, 7600 NVS 110M G72 || <!--Audio-->{{dunno|HD Audio with STAC 9200 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless--> {{dunno}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2007 1440x900 screen - LA-2792P Rev.2.0 - DT785 UC218 Fan/ Heatsink (64bit) - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D820 (Quanta JM6) || <!--Chipset-->945GMS 940GML * rev A00 * rev A01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 2D and 3D tunnel 195 - 100? gearbox 156}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with STAC 9200 playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|BCM4310 replace with mini pcie atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Opinion-->2007 widescreen 15 inch 1280 x 800 matte - - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D820 (Quanta JM) || <!--Chipset-->945GMS 940GML * revA00 * revA01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Nvidia NVS 110M 120M G72}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio STAC 9200}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|BCM4310 swap with Atheros 5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2007 64bit 15.4 1650x1050 WXGA or WSXGA+ or 1920x1200 WUXGA - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Latitude D531 15" || <!--Chipset-->AMD Turion X2 TL56 or TL60 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA - ATi xpress X1270}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with IDT codec || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 57xx}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 or Dell Wireless 1390, 1505 or BCM4311 mini pcie || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit possible - no trackpoint - fails and goes wrong often - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D430 PP09S || <!--Chipset-->945 with Core2 Duo C2D U7500 1.06GHz U7600 1.2GHz U7700 1.33GHz * rev A00 * rev A01 * rev A02 | <!--IDE-->ZIF PATA IDE 1.8inch under battery and ribbon cable - slow use USB instead || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|945GML 2D and 3D opengl 1.x 171 tunnel 105 gearbox}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|STAC 92xx HD Audio speaker and ear phone - mono speaker}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|3 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 4965 AGN or 3945 ABG mini pci-e underside with Atheros 5k mini pci-e}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aspire 1.8 || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit capable - sd card not supported - 19.5v PA12 power adapter - 12.1" 1280x800 matte - f2 setup f5 diagnostics f12 boot list - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D530 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 + ICH8 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|nVidia Quadro NVS 135M 2D 3d glitches G86}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.5 || <!--Comments-->2007 [http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=6481 ] cool air intake from underneath needed with pa-10 or pa-3e 90w psu required - standard 4:3 ratio aspect screen - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D630 (Compal LA-3301P) PP18L || <!--Chipset-->GM965 + ICH8 T7250 2.0Ghz T7300 * revA00 * revA01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA X3100 (2D only, no external monitor)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio STAC 9205 but speaker and head phones}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB 2.0}}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom BCM4312 swap with pci-e Atheros 5k under keyboard}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit possible - F12 to choose boot option - 2 ddr2 sodimm max 4G - 4400mah 48Wh battery lasts 2 hours - 6600mah 73Wh lasts just over 3 hours |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D630 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 + ICH8 * revA00 [http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=6481 ] GPU heatpad, no copper * revA01 0DT785 heatsink | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|use VESA as nVidia NVS 135M 3d corrupts 0.7 tunnel 0.25 gearbox G86}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG swap with Atheros 5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.5 || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D830 || <!--Chipset-->965GM with Core2 * revA00 * revA01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GM965 crestline 2d and 3d tunnel 115}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|replace with Atheros 5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros || <!--Comments-->2007 15 inch 1280 x 900 but updating the LCD to WXGA or WSXGA+ could be better - 2 ddr2 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D830 || <!--Chipset-->ICH8, Core2 DUO T7800 @ 2.60GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Intel ICH8M Serial ATA || <!--Gfx-->nVidia Quadro NVS 140M G86 || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with STAC 92XX codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit || <!--Wireless-->Intel Wireless 4965AGN swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.03 || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit 15." - FN,F2 or FN,F8 or FN,F12 |- | <!--Name-->XPS M1330 M1530 M1730 - WISTRON Hawke || <!--Chipset-->965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{No|Intel 965 with either Nvidia 8400M 8600M 8700M or 8800GT G84 G86}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio STAC 9228 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom or Marvell 88E8040 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro-->ICAROS 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit Did not boot |- | <!--Name-->Precision M2300 M4300 M6300 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|use VESA nVidia Quadro FX 360M (8400GS) 3600M 3500M 2500M G86 to G92}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG 4965 swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2007 14" 15.6" 17" |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 1310 1510 (Compal LA-4592P) 1710 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo T7600 or Celeron 540 GMA965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GM965 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC268 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 4965 swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit Celeron 540 added 64 bit support (doubling transistor count) |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 1320 1520 (Compal LA-4592P) 1720 (Compal LA-4671P) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 965 || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC268 or IDT 92HD8X codec || <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4312 or Dell Wireless 1397}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 up to 17 inch with 13.3 inch WXGA Anti-Glare matt or glossy LED Display (1280 x 800) - |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 1320 1520 (Compal LA-4592P) 1720 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvdia 9300m to 9600M GS G96 || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC268 or IDT 92HD8X codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4312 swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 15.4” screen Vostro 1520 with excessive heat buildup on the left hand side palm rest |- | <!--Name-->Precision M2400 M4400 M6400 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA 2d for nVidia Quadro FX 770M G86}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2008 14" 15.6" 17" |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1525 PP29L || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo or Core2 Duo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT codec || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4312}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 32bit much later 64bit 15.4" 1200 x 800 - 19.5v dell psu - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1545 PP41L || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 4500MHD || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HD71B codec || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8040}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4312}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 15.6" |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E4200 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo U9400 U9300 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->64gig ssd with ribbon cable || <!--Gfx-->Intel GM45 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HD 71B7X codec || <!--USB--> NEC uPD720202 || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82567LM}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4322 or Intel’s 5100 or 5300}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64 - 12.1in 1,280 x 800 poor color accuracy magnesium alloy body - easily replaced keyboard - 1 ddr3 sodimm slot - Microdia cam - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E5400 E5500 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio but no sound}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM5761e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E4300 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core 2 Duo P9400 2.4GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 4500 MHD || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HDxxx || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82567LM || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel PRO Wireless 5300 AGN}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit - 13.3" WXGA - sd card Broadcom BCM5880 - |- | <!--Name-->Lattitude E6400 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo P9500 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel GMA 4500M HD 2D with NVIDIA QUADRO NVS 160M G98}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD with IDT 92HD71 codec or later 92HDM61}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom BCM4312 or Intel 5300 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 early ones problems with the keyboard ribbon cable connector, trackpoints were not good |- | <!--Name-->Latittude E4310 E5410 ATG || <!--Chipset-->Intel 5 series Intel Core i5 560M 1st gen || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA HD 5700 mhd || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with IDT 92HDxx Codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82577LM || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4313 too small 30x30 to swap}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64Bit clarkdale codename CPUs - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E6410 E6510 E6310 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core i7 620M i7 820QM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|NVidia NVS 3100M GT218 2D but 3D through external monitor}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio IDT 92HD81}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom or Intel 6200AGN or Link 6300}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3 || <!--Comments-->2010 64 bit |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron M5030 || <!--Chipset-->rev A01 AMD V120, V140 rev A0? V160 M880G || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA RS880M Radeon HD 4225, 4250}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with ALC269q codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8152 v2}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - DDR3 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1546 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 4330M 530v || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 91HD81 codec || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8103EL-GR || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - 15.6" - alps touchpad - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->XPS 15 15Z L501X L502X 17 17Z L701X L702X || <!--Chipset-->i7 840QM to i7 2630QM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel HD 3000 with Nvidia 555, 525M, 540M, 555M or 435M 420M GF108M optimus || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111e || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit first models not Sandybridge but later are - 17.3-inch 1600 × 900 to 15.6-inch - not many working now |- | <!--Name-->E6420 E6520 ATG semi ruggized XFR || <!--Chipset-->sandy bridge i5 2520M 2540M or duo I7 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->set to Bios UEFI mode AHCI || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel HD 3000 with optional fermi Nvidia NVS 4200M GF119}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with IDT 92HD90 BXX codec but not HDMI codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6205}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.03 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit 15.6in - fan exhausts a lot of hot air when cpu taxed - VGA if Bios ATA set and Vesa only with Bios ACHI set - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron M5040 || <!--Chipset-->slow amd E450, later C-50 C50 or C-60 C60 with A50M chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->non efi sata in IDE mode but base plastic difficult to remove for access || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA AMD Radeon 6320, 6250 or 6290}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio IDT}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8105E VB 10/100}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros AR9285 no space for swap}} || <!--Test Distro-->icaros 2.1.1 and AROS USB 1.6 || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit 15INCH 1388 X 768 - f2 bios setup, f12 boot order - under removable keyboard via 4 top spring loaded catches is 1 ddr3l sodimm max 8gb and wifi - |- | Latitude e6230 E6330 E6430 || i3 3320M 3350M 2.8 GHz i5 3360M i7 3520M || {{N/A}} || {{partial|non RAID mode}} || {{partial|Intel HD 4000 (VESA only)}} || {{no|HD Audio}} || {{partial|Intel USB 3.0 (USB 1.1 2.0 only)}} || {{No|Intel 82579LM Gigabit}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313}} || <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2014 09-27 || 2013 64bit Ivy Bridge - 12.5-inch 13.3-inch 14-inch screen - not great support, better under hosted - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 15 3521 5521 5721, Vostro 3555 || <!--Chipset-->i5 i7 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel HD 4000 or Radeon 8730M or 7670M || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC850 ?? || <!--USB-->USB 3.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E RTL8105E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros or Dell 1703 1704 1705}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.3 || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit AVX Panther Point Ivy Bridge Intel(R) 7 Series Mobile - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 15‑3541 15‑3542 P40F001 P40F002 || <!--Chipset-->AMD E1 2100 6010 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Partial|VESA 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{unk| }} || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit no AVX - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Inspiron 15 5565 5567 AMD versions || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9200u A9-9400 A12-9700P Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->Radeon R5 R8 GCN 3 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 1GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - there are i-intel versions - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Latitude 5495 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 2300U 2500U 2700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe and 2.5in || <!--Gfx-->Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek ALC3246 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14.0" FHD WVA 1080p (16:9) 220 nits or 14.0" HD (1366 x 768) - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 32gb - 19.5V 65W 90W - care needed with usbc charging - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 3505, Vostro 3515 || <!--Chipset-->athlon 300u, Ryzen 3250u (2c4t) 3450u 3500u 3700u (4c8t), Athlon Silver (2c2t) Gold (2c4t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for Vega 8, 10}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Realtek ALC3204, Cirrus Logic CS8409 (CS42L42 and SN005825)}} || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|RTL 8106E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8723DE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64-bit - 15.6inch - 2 ddr4 sodimm max 16G - avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 5485 2-in-1 || <!--Chipset-->athlon 300u, Ryzen 3250u (2c4t) 3450u 3500u 3700u (4c8t), Athlon Silver (2c2t) Gold (2c4t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for Vega 8, 10}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Realtek ALC3204}} || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8723DE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64-bit - 14inch - 2 ddr4 sodimm max 16G - avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Latitude 3500 3410 3510 5410 5510 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core i5 (8th Gen) 8265U, i5-10210U, CORE i5-10310U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{no|Intel UHD Graphics 620}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|Realtek ALC3204}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111H}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - Realtek LAN port for WD19/22 docks untested - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 5405 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 4500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->One M.2 2230/2280 nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek ALC3204 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14" 1080p - dell round ac - |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 5415, Inspiron 5515 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 5300U, Ryzen 5 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 14" or 15.6in - avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use or use dell round ac - replacing keyboard not easy - 1 ddr4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 3425, Vostro 3525, Vostro 5625 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 5425U, Ryzen 5 5625U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB4}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 14in 15.6" to 16" FHD 1080p - dell round ac or avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Inspiron 15 Model 3535, Inspiron 14 7435 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 7520U, AMD Ryzen 5 7530U, 7 7730U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{No| hdmi 1.4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with codec }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2024 64bit - 14.0" or 15.6" 1080p - dell round ac or usb-c charging - full sd card slot - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |} ====Fujitsu-Siemens==== [[#top|...to the top]] Order of build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Amilo Esprimo Lifebook </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu [http://www.labri.fr/perso/fleury/index.php?page=bug_transmeta FMV-Biblo Loox S73A (Japan P1100) LifeBook P1120 Biblo Loox T93C (Japan P2120) P2020] || <!--Chipset-->Transmeta Crusoe CPU TM5600 633MHz with Ali M1535 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->ATI Rage Mobility M with 4MB SDRAM || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 Ali M1535 + STAC9723 Codec}} || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 only || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1999 32bit 10" 1280 x 600 matte LCD - QuickPoint IV mouse - metal chassis with palm rest plastic - 15GB 2.5 inch drive and SR 8175 8X DVD-ROM drive - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook S7000 S7010 S7010D S2020 || <!--Chipset-->Pentium M 1.6 or 1.7GHz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - Intel 855}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|AC97 with STAC 9751T or 9767 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros, Broadcom or Intel 2200BG - FN,F10}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit 14.1 inch with minimal support |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook e8010 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Intel 855GM}} || <!--Audio-->AC97 STAC9767 or ALC203 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5705M}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3.1 || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit 15.1 inch |- | <!--Name-->Stylistic ST5000 ST5010 ST5011 ST5012 ST5020 ST5021 ST5022 || <!--Chipset-->1.0GHz P-M and later 1.1GHz on Intel 855GME || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 800 use VESA || <!--Audio-->Intel AC97 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5788 tg3 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200BG}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit charged via a proprietary port power connector 16V 3.75A with wacom serial pen interface - indoor Screen transmissive 10.1 and later 12.1 XGA TFT - |- | <!--Name-->Amilo Pro V2010 || <!--Chipset-->VIA CN400 PM880 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|S3 unichrome use VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|VIA AC97 VT8237 with codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Rhine 6102 6103 || <!--Wireless-->RaLink RT2500 || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit boot mount - unknown bootstrap error then crashes |- | <!--Name-->Amilo Li 1705 CN896 || <!--Chipset--> with VIA P4M900 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE}} || <!--Gfx-->ATi || <!--Audio-->{{No|VIA VT8237 HD Audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->VT82xx 62xx || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|VIA Rhine}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros G}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit random freezes |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> Esprimo Mobile V5535 Skt mPGA 478MN | <!--Chipset--> | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE and EIDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{maybe|IDE mode with SIS 5513}} | <!--Gfx--> {{maybe|SiS 771 / 671 (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|HD Audio SIS968 SIS966 SI7012 with ALC268 codec}} | <!--USB--> {{no|USB 1.1 and 2.0 issues}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|SiS 191 gigabit}} | <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros AR5001 mini pci express}} | <!--Test Distro-->aros one 1.5 usb | <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 20v barrel - f2 setup f12 multi boot - random freezing short time after booting - chipset SIS 671MX - |- | <!--Name-->Amilo SI 1520 1521p || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio Conexant codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Intel Pro 100}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.2 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit - Set Bios option ATA Control Mode to Compatible |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook S7020 S7020D || <!--Chipset--> Pentium M 740 1.73MHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 915 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC260 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5751M Gigabit || <!--Wireless-->Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG or Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Stylistic ST5030 ST5031 ST5032 || <!--Chipset-->1 to 1.2GHx Pentium M with 915GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 900 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Marvell || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit charged via a proprietary port power connector 6.0 x 4.4 mm round - 200 pin ddr2 ram |- | <!--Name-->Stylistic ST5110 ST5111 ST5112 || <!--Chipset-->945GM with 1.2GHz Core Duo and Core2 Duo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 900 || <!--Audio-->HD audio with STAC9228 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 ABG or optional atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 either 32 or 64 bit - charged via a proprietary port power connector 6.0 x 4.4 mm round - SigmaTel® touchscreen - |- | <!--Name-->E8110 S7110 E8210 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|945GM}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC262 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8055 Gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit Core Duo |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || CHIPSET || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook PH521 || <!--Chipset-->AMD E-350 E-450 1.65GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->HD 6310M 6320M || <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC269 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 802.11 bgn}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6 inch 1366x768 pixels - DDR3 1066MHz - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====HP Compaq==== [[#top|...to the top]] Build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Presario Pavilion Omnibook ProBook Armada Elitebook </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->1c00 series Compaq Presario [http://users.utu.fi/sjsepp/linuxcompaqarmada100s.html Armada 100S made by Mitac], 1247 || <!--Chipset-->K6-II with PE133 MVP-4 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA - Trident Blade3D AGP sp16953 || <!--Audio-->VIA ac'97 audio [rev20] with AD1881A codec || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|usual VIA issues [rev10]}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit 192MB max - PCcard Texas PC1211 no support - 1200 XL1 1200-XL1xx, XL101, XL103 XL105 XL106 XL109 XL110 XL111 XL116 XL118 XL119 XL125 |- | <!--Name-->1c01 series Armada 110, Evo N150 || <!--Chipset-->Intel with VIA PLE133 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - Trident Cyber Blade i1 chipset || <!--Audio-->VIA 686 rev20 82xxx 686a || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82557 Pro 100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit max 192mb sodimm 100Mhz 133Mhz ram memory - 1200-XL405A 12XL405A XL502A 12XL502A 1600XL |- | Armada M300 M700 E500 || 440BX || {{Yes| }} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|ATI Rage LT M1 Mobility (VESA only)}} || {{no|AC97 ESS Maestro 2E M2E ES1987 sound}} || {{yes|USB1.1 only}} || {{No|[http://perho.org/stuff/m300/index_en.html Intel PRO 100+ Mini PCI]}} || {{N/A}} || Aspire OS 2012, Nightly 30-01 2013 and 04-05 2013 || 1999 32bit - F10 bios options and Fn+F11 reset CMOS with 64mb ram already on board |- | <!--Name-->HP Omnibook XE3 || <!--Chipset-->Intel BX 600Mhz GC model 256mb or AMD GD 500Mhz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - S3 Inc. 86C270 294 Savage IX-MV (rev 11) || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1988 Allegro 1 (rev 12)}} || <!--USB-->Intel 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit no cardbus pcmcia support - no audio from Polk Audio Speakers - |- | <!--Name-->HP Omnibook XE3 || <!--Chipset-->82830 ICH3 P3-M 750MHz 800Mhz 900MHz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - CGC 830MG}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1988 Maestro 3i}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|only one 1.1 port}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|e100 82557}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A|}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.51 || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit Boots USB Stick via Plop boot floppy - Memory for GF 256-512mb, GS up 1GB |- | <!--Name-->TC1000 TC-1000 Tablet PC || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA NV11 [GeForce2 Go] (rev b2) || <!--Audio-->VIA AC97 Audio (rev 50) || <!--USB-->OHCI NEC USB 2.0 (rev 02) || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82551 QM (rev 10) || <!--Wireless-->Atmel at76c506 802.11b || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit Transmeta LongRun (rev 03) with VT82C686 - Texas Instruments TI PCI1520 PC card Cardbus |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq R3000 ZV5000 (Compal LA-1851) || <!--Chipset-->Nvidia nForce 3 with AMD CPU || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia NV17 [GeForce4 420 Go 32M] || <!--Audio-->Nvidia || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom or Realtek RTL8139 || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4303 BCM4306 or Atheros bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - HPs have a setting to automatically disable wireless if a wired connection is detected |- | <!--Name-->Compaq [http://www.walterswebsite.us/drivers.htm Presario 700 series] || <!--Chipset-->VT8363 VT8365 [Apollo Pro KT133 KM133] || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VT8636A (S3 Savage TwisterK) (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|VIA AC97 [rev50] with AD1886 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|VIA UHCI USB 1.1 [rev1a]}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RealTek RTL8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom BCM4306}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit poor consumer grade level construction - jbl audio pro speakers - no support for cardbus pcmcia TI PCI1410 - 700A EA LA UK US Z 701AP EA BR FR 701Z 702US 703US AP JP audio sp18895 Sp19472 |- |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | N400c || P3-M 82845 || {{yes|82801 CAM IDE U100}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Rage Mobility 128 (VESA only)}} || {{No|Maestro 3 allegro 1}} || {{yes|USB1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VM (KM)}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit Has no optical disc drive |- | N410c || P3-M 82845 || {{yes|82801 CAM IDE U100}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Radeon Mobility M7 LW 7500 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|Intel AC97 with AD1886 codec}} || {{yes|USB1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VM (KM)}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit Has no optical disc drive |- | Evo N600c || Pentium 4 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI Radeon Mobility M7 (VESA only)}} || {{No|ESS ES1968 Maestro 2}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2003 32bit |- | Evo N610c || Pentium 4 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI Radeon Mobility M7 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|Intel ICH AC97 with AD1886 codec}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || |- | N800c || P4 || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit P4M CPU can get very warm |- | <!--Name-->NX7010 || <!--Chipset-->Intel || <!--IDE-->{{yes|IDE}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|ATI mobility 7500 or 9000 Radeon 9200 64MB (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 ADI codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|uhci (1.1) and ehci (2.0)}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200b bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Preasrio V5000 (Compal LA-2771) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Sempron 3000+ or Turion ML with SB400 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - Ati RS480M Xpress 200}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 ATI with Conexant CX 20468 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8100 8101L 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|bcm4318 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2004 64bit single core machine V5001 V5002 V5002EA V5003 |- | <!--Name-->TC1100 TC-1100 Tablet PC || <!--Chipset-->855PM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia Geforce4 Go || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|BCM 4400}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros wlan W400 W500 or ? bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit |- | <!--Name-->NC6000 NC8000 NW8000 || <!--Chipset-->855PM with Pentium M 1.5 1.6 1.8GHz 2.0GHz || <!--IDE-->max 160 GB for NW 8000 || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Ati RV350 mobility 9600 M10 Fire GL T2 ISV use VESA 2D as no laptop display}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel AC97 with ADI codec playback only}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|2 ports}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM 5705M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|mini pci Atheros 5212 BG W400 W500 or Intel - all bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 based [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=41916&forum=47 works] - Firewire TI TSB43AB22/A - 8 pound 2.5 kg travel weight - an SD slot as well as two PC Card slots - 15-inch UXGA screen (1,600 x 1,200) or 15" SXGA+ (1400 x 1050) (4:3 ratio) |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Compaq NC6110 NX6110 NC6120 NC6220 NC4200 NC8200 TC4200 || <!--Chipset-->GMA 915GML || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D GMA 900}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 with ADI AD1981B playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|440x or BCM 5705M or 5751M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel IPW 2200 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5.2 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit Sonoma based - Wifi with Atheros AR5007eg if apply hacked bios RISKY else use USB one - (INVENTEC ASPEN UMA MV) (INVENTEC ASPEN DIS PV) - |- | <!--Name-->Compaq C500 CTO aka HP G7000 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 945GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with realtek ALC262 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom BCM 4311 bios locked || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->HP DV6000 || <!--Chipset-->945GMS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HD 91B || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel PRO 100 VE || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32 bit only - Mosfet FDS6679 common cause of shorts giving no power to the tip. To reset adapter, unplug from AC (mains) and wait 15-30 sec. Then plug in again - |- | Presario F700 series, HP G6000 f730us F750 F750us F755US F756NR F765em || AMD Turion Mono MK-36 2.0Ghz NForce 560m or Twin X2 TK-55 with nForce 610m MCP67 || {{N/A| }} || {{Yes|but needs special sata adapt bit and caddy}} || {{Yes|GF Go 7000m 2D and 3D 640x350 to 1280x800 - ball solder issues due to poor cooling}} || {{Maybe| }} || {{Maybe|uhci and ehci boots}} || {{No|Nvidia }} || {{Yes|Atheros AR5007 bios locked}} || Icaros 1.3.1 and Aros One 1.6 USB || 2006 64bit - f9 boot device f10 bios setup - random freezes after a minutes use means internal ventilation maintenance needed each year essential - No sd card and overall limited phoenix bios options - |- | <!--Name-->Presario v6604au v6608au V3500 || <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA MCP67M with AMD Athlon64 X2 TK 55 amd 1.8ghz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|SATA 150}} || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA GeForce Go 7150M 630i or C67 630M MCP67 || <!--Audio-->conexant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia or Realtek 10/100 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4311 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit Altec Lansing Stereo Speakers - ball solder issues - |- | <!--Name-->Compaq presario v6610 v6615eo v6620us || <!--Chipset-->Turion 64 X2 mobile TK-55 / 1.8 GHz to athlon 64x2 @ 2.4ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|SATA 150}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|geforce 7150 or 7300m 2d and 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AMD HD Audio with IDT codec stereo playback only}} || <!--USB-->3 OHCI EHCI || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3 - || <!--Comments-->2007 [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=40956&forum=48 works well] - 1 x ExpressCard/54 - SD Card slot - AO4407 test voltage of the Drain side (pins 5-8) with AC adapter and no battery, see 0 volts, connect the battery you should have 10-14v - |- | <!--Name-->v6630em v6642em || <!--Chipset-->nForce 630M with AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-58 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA GeForce 6150M or 7150M || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit 15.4 in 1280 x 800 ( WXGA ) - |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq NC6400 || <!--Chipset-->945GM Core Duo || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|GMA 950 2D issues and no 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio AD1981HD}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros || <!--Comments-->2007 - replaced with Atheros AR5007eg if apply hacked bios RISKY else use USB g - * 32bit Core Duo T2400 * 64bit Core 2 Duo T5600 T7600 |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq NV NC6400 || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo + 945PM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Radeon x1300M (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with ADI1981 low volume}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|BCM 5753M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 ABG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.4.2 || <!--Opinion-->2007 Harmon Kardon speakers |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq NC6320 || <!--Chipset-->945GM with * 32bit Core Duo 1.83GHz T2400 * 64bit Core2 Duo 1.83GHz T5600 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 950 2D with a little 3D tunnel 213}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD Audio with AD1981HD codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM 5788}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2 || <!--Comments-->2007 replaced with Atheros AR5007eg if applying hacked wifi bios RISKY!! else use USB - 14.1" or 15 inch XGA 1024x768 - noisy cpu fan for core2 - trackpad rhs acts as window scroller - |- | <!--Name-->HP NC4400 TC4400 Tablet || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo with 82945 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|bios F.07 limits to 100GB 120GB}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|2D and 3D 282 tunnel and gearbox 150}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ADI 1981HD codec via ear phones}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM 5753M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 or BCM 4306 - Whitelist BIOS F.0C needed but risky}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->2008 64 bit possible with Core2 - TI SD card reader non bootable - wacom serial digitiser pen not working - * 32bit 1.86GHz core duo * 64bit 2Ghz T7200, 2.16Ghz Core 2 Duo T7600 2.33GHz |- | <!--Name-->HP Pavilion DV2000 CTO || <!--Chipset-->945GMS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950, X3100, Nvidia 8400M || <!--Audio-->HD Audio Conexant CX 20549 Venice || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia MCP51 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM 4311 or Intel 3945 4965 ABG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 Atheros AR5007eg if apply hacked bios RISKY |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Presario C700 || <!--Chipset-->GMA960 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->X3100 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139 || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros AR5007 AR5001 AR242x}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 |- | <!--Name-->Compaq 2510p 6510b 6710b 6910b || <!--Chipset-->GMA 965GM GL960 || <!--IDE-->{{yes| || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|X3100 some 2d but slow software 3d only}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio ADI AD1981 HD low volume on head phones}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82566 or Broadcom BCM 5787M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945ABG or 4965ABG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aspire OS Xenon 2014 || <!--Comments-->2008 no sd card boot support - F9 to choose boot option - [http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/7681-This-is-no-request-thread!-HP-COMPAQ-bioses-how-to-modify-the-bios/page111?p=333358#post333358 whitelist removal (risky) bios block for wifi card swap] |- | <!--Name-->CQ40 CQ41 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BC4310 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Presario CQ35 CQ36 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4312 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 Compal LA-4743P - |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq CQ42 CQ43 CQ45 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Coxenant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8191SE, Realtek 8188CE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 (Quanta AX1) |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Presario CQ50 CQ56 || <!--Chipset-->Nvidia MCP78S || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Geforce 8200M || <!--Audio-->nVidia HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->nvidia MCP77 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR928X bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 [http://donovan6000.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/insyde-bios-modding-wifi-and-wwan-whitelists.html bios modding risky] MCP72XE MCP72P MCP78U MCP78S |- | <!--Name-->HP Pavilion dv4 dv4z(AMD), dv5 (dv5z AMD), dv7 (dv7z AMD) || <!--Chipset-->QL-60, QL-62 (AMD Turion 64 X2) RM-70, RM-72, ZM-80, ZM-84, (AMD Turion II) M520 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->HD 3200 3450 4530 4550 4650 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit - 14.1" dv4, dv5 features a 15.4" and the HP Pavilion dv7 a 17" display |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->CQ57z || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD E-300 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA ATi HD 6310 wrestler}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101 RTL8102 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RaLink RT5390}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->HP CQ58z 103SA E5K15EA || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD Dual-Core E1-1500 APU with A68M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Radeon HD 7310}} || <!--Audio-->Realtek idt codec || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 10/100 BASE-T}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 39.6 cm (15.6") HD BrightView LED-backlit (1366 x 768) |- | <!--Name-->HP 635 DM1 || <!--Chipset-->Slow E-300, E-450 later E2-1800 on SB7x0 SB8x0 SB9x0 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->ATI non efi SATA AHCI - IDE mode || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA 2D - AMD HD6310, 6320 to HD7340}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ALC270A GR but not Wrestler HDMI Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 driver covers Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 14" 1366 x 768 - f9 f10 - external battery - 2 stacked ddr3l sodimm slots max 16Gb under one base plate - removable keyboard - |- | <!--Name-->HP G6 2000-2b10NR 2000-2d10SX 2000-2d80NR || <!--Chipset-->E1-2000 E2-3000M on A50M (soldered) A4-3305A on A60M (socket) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Radeon 6320, 6620G, 6520G, 6480G, 6380G}} || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 100 1000 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 39.6-cm (15.6-in) HD LED BrightView (1366×768) - 1 or 2 ddr3l max 8G - 19VDC 3.42A Max 65W Tip 7.4mm x 5.0mm - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 6465B || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-3310MX or A6-3410MX with A60M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD 6480G or 6520G}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|IDT 92HD81B1X}} || <!--USB--> USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel AC 6205 or broadcom 4313 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 13-inch or 14-inch runs hot - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 8470p 8570p || <!--Chipset-->Quad i7-3840QM to i7-3610QM, Dual i7-3520M to i5-3210M, Core i3-3130M to i3-2370M on Mobile Intel QM77 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|set the bios boot options to not fastboot and drive mode IDE rather than AHCI }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d for HD4000 with some having switchable Radeon M2000 or 7570M}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio for IDT codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82579LM }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel, Broadcom, Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro-->64 bit boots from CD* if safe mode 2 is used, although it is possible to remove the 'nodma' and 'debug' entries and boot || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit with SSE4.1 and AVX - 14in 1600 x 900 to 1366 x 768 - 2 DDR3L sodimm slots max 16Gb - TPM 1.2 - dual boot 32/64 bit is working fine - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 6475b, Probook 4445s 4545s, HP Pavilion 15-b115sa, [https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c04015674#AbT6 HP mt41 Mobile Thin Client PC] || <!--Chipset-->AMD A4 4300M, A6 4400M 4455M or A8 4500M with AMD A70M A76M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 7420 7520G 7640G 7660G}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with idt or realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek RTL8151FH-CG}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6205 or Broadcom BCM 43228 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6-inch - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 455 G1 F2P93UT#ABA, 645 G1, Envy 15-j151ea G7V80EA, Envy m6-1310sa (E4R01EA#ABU) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Quad A4-4300M A8-4500M A10-4600M A4-5150M A6-5350M 2.9Ghz A10-5750M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 7420G 7520G 7640G 7660G 8350G 8450G or 8550G, 8650G, 8750G }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio IDT 92HD91 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 14in and 15in 1366 x 768 - external battery - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - 19.5v / 4.62A psu runs hot - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 245 G4, 255 G1, 255 G2, 455 G2, 255 G3, 455 G3, 255 G4 80CB, 255 G5 82F6, 355 G2, HP Pavilion 15-p038na 15-g092sa 15-p091sa 15-G094S 15-p144na 15-p142na, 15-Af156sa || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD A4-5000 A6-5200, E2-6110, E1-6010 E2-2000, E1-2100 E2-3800, A4-6210 A6-6310 A8-6410, E2-7110, A6-7310 A8-7410 APU || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata some with cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R2 R4 R5}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC3201-GR || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8102E or Atheros 1GbE || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros AR9565}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit most have SSE4 AVX but E2-2000 does not - 15.6-inch (1366 x 768) - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - small 31Whr or 41Whr external battery covers 240 G4, 245 G4, 250 G4, 255 G4, 256 G4, 14G, 15G - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 645 g2, Probook 445 G2, Probook 245 G2 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-8600 A8-8700 a10- || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Radeon R5 R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel I219V 100/1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel or Qualcomm Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 14in and 15.6-inch HD (1366 x 768) or FHD 1080p - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots max 16GB - internal battery - hp ac psu tip - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 725 G2, 745 G2, 755 G2 || <!--Chipset-->Amd Quad A6-7050B A8-7150B 1.9GHz A10-7350B || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA on AMD R4 R5 Radeon R6 with DP and vga}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD audio with IDT 92HD91}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 PCIe GBE || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom or Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 12.5-inch, 14" or 15.6in (all 1366 x 768) - 19.5V 65w 45W AC adapter - internal pull up tab battery under base which slides off - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - keyboard swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->HP Probook 455 G3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-8700P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Radeon R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->1GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 725 G3, 745 G3, 755 G3, 725 G4, 745 G4, 755 G4, HP mt43 || <!--Chipset-->Amd A8-8600B, A10-8700B, A12-8800B to Quad A8 Pro 9600B to A10 9800 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA on AMD R5 R6 R7 with DP and vga but screen is low res, dull colours, and blurry}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD audio with IDT codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 5762 PCIe GBE}} || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8723BE-VB || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - 12.5-inch (1366 x 768) to 14" and 15.6in - 2 sodimm ddr3 - 19.5V 45W AC slim 4.5mm hp adapter - randomly shuts down and the noisy fans constantly on - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 645 G3, 655 G3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD 8th Gen A10-8730B, A8-9600B (4c4t) A6-8530B (2c2t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for AMD R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111HSH || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel or Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->HP Probook 455 G4, Probook 455 G5, || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-9600P APU, A9-9410, A6-9210 APU || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R4, R5 or R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 1GbE || <!--Wireless-->realtek or intel Wireless-AC 7265 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit 15.6in 1366 x 768 - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 645 G6, 255 G6, 255 G7 - 31Whr external battery covers HP all G6 and HP 14-BS, HP 14-BW, HP 15-BS || <!--Chipset-->AMD E2-9000e, A9-9420, 9220P, 9125 (all 2c) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata 2.5in and M.2, no cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for R2 R3 R4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RTL8188CTV, RTL8821CE or Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 3168}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - 19V 65W - DDR4 slot max 8Gb - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ProBook 245 g8 || <!--Chipset-->Range all dual cores - AMD A6-9225 APU, AMD A4-9125 APU, AMD PRO A6-8350B APU, AMD PRO A4-5350B APU || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R4 R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - many variants - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Pavilion 15z bw0xxx, 15-bw024na 15-ba506na, 15-bw060na 15-DB0521SA, HP Envy x360 15-ar052sa 2 in 1, || <!--Chipset-->AMD A9-9420 2c 2t, A10-9620p 4c4t 9700p 7th Gen Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R5 GCN 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 15.6in 768p or 1080p - internal battery - 19.5V 2.31A hp plug - 1 DDR4-1866 SDRAM sodimm slot - keyboard swap problematic - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteBook 725 G5, 735 G5, 745 G5, 755 G5, Probook 455 G6, 255 G7 7DE73EA || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 2200U 2300U (2c t), R5 2500U, R7 2700U (4c8t) Raven Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 Sata or NVMe and/or 2.5in sata if detachable ribbon cable present, no cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for AMD Vega 3, 6, or 8}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ALC236 0x10ec0236 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek or rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8821CE, 8822BE or Intel AC 8265 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - 12.5 to 15.6in up to 1080p - internal battery - 1 on smaller laptops or 2 ddr4 sodimm slots on larger laptops max 16Gb - usb-c charging care needed - keyboard swap problematic - esc bios setup f9 boot order - |- | <!--Name-->HP Envy x360 15-bq150sa, Envy x360 covertible 13 13-ag0xxx HP Envy x360 15-cp0xxx Ryzen 2500u || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 and Sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ?, ?, ALC295 0x10ec0295 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|realtek, none on 13in}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 13 or 15.6in 1080p - hp barrel or usb-c on 13in - ddr4 - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP 14-cm, 15-bw0, HP 15-db0043na, HP 15-db0996na, HP 15-db0997na, 17-ca0007na, 17-ca1, ProBook 645 G4 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 2200U (2c 4t) 2500U (4c 8t) with AMD Carrizo FCH 51 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 and 1 2.5in on some larger models || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R5 and later Vega 3 or 7}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Realtek ALC3227 and ATI HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|USB3 USB boot drive stuck on kitty's eyes}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RTL 8723DE 8821 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 USB || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit 2kg - screen is dim 14in, 15.6in or 17.3" 768p, later 1080p - 65W 19.5V ac adapter - internal 3-cell 41 Wh Li-ion battery does not last long - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - no DVD-Writer - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->[https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c06955717 ProBook 245 g8], Probook 445R G6, 455R G6, HP 255 G7 7DC73EA 2D200EA, HP14-dk0599sa, pavilion 15-cw1511na 15-cw1507sa || <!--Chipset-->Range mostly dual cores - AMD Athlon Gold 3150U (2c 2t), Silver 3050U APU (2c 2t), Pro 3145U APU to 3200U (2c 4t) and 3500U (4c 8t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 NVMe 2280 but usually no 2.5in mountings, no cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3, 6 or 8 with up to 2gb ram taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with realtek ALC236 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 but no usb-c}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE RTL8111HSH || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek 8822BE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in / 15.6in dim panel 768p or 1080p - one heatpipe for cpu - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 16gb - 65 W Smart AC adapter, right angle, 4.5 mm or usb-c - keyboard swap problematic - cd-rw dvd-rw - plastic build - |- | <!--Name-->Elitebook 735 G6 5VA23AV, Elitebook 745 G6, 255 g8 || <!--Chipset-->AMD® Ryzen™ 5-3500U Ryzen 3-3300U AMD Ryzen 3-3250U AMD Athlon® Gold 3150U AMD Athlon Silver 3050U AMD 3020e || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|m.2 2280 nvme in legacy - hp sure start and secure boot disabled but still issues with gpt installs}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Vega 8, 5 or 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 6.34 ahi with realtek codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 type-A port boots stick partially to kitty eyes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169 realtek RTL8111E or 8111H}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|realtek or intel}} || <!--Test Distro-->{{No|Icaros 2.3 onto USB and AROS One 1.8 and 2.0 USB}} || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 1366x768 to 1920x1080 - 2 3200MHz DDR4 sodimms - 19.5V 2.31A or 20V 2.25 45W 4.5X3.0MM hp - esc bios setup, f9 boot device select - low travel keyboard - poor battery life - plastic hooked base with retained screws - elan touchpad? - |- | <!--Name-->Envy x360 13 laptop 13-ay0008na and 13 and 15.6' 2 in 1 convertible || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R5 4500U with carrizo FCH51 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega 6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel or Realtek wifi 6 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit 13.3in or 15.6in IPS 1080p - ram soldered - touch pen not supplied - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 445 G7, 455 G7 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 4300U 5 4500U 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 sata and 1 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with realtek alc236 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl169 realtek rtl8111ep || <!--Wireless-->{{No|realtek RTL8822CE or intel AC 9260 or Wi-Fi 6 AX200}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14 inch 768p or 1080p - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - smart 45w 65w hp or usb-c charging avoid damage - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteBook 745 G7, 845 G7, HP 15-EH0006NA || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 4300U, 5 4500U, PRO 4650U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->SSD M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Radeon Vega 8}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - Bang & Olufsen speakers - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 255 G8, HP 245 G9 Laptop || <!--Chipset-->AMD RYZEN 3 5425U, 5 5500U 5625U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega 6 or 8 hdmi 1.4B}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 1GBe}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8822CE or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 14" to 15.6in 1366 x 768 to 1080p poor gamut - 45 or 65w hp psu - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 16GB - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteBook 645 g7, 835 G8, 845 g8, HP ENVY x360 13 15 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 5650U, 7 5800U, R7 Pro 5850U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD Radeon}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 1Gbe on 645 only}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 13.3" or 14" 1080p - poor screens low nits and srgb score - 845 gets hot ue to poor cooling - slim round hp ac - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP Dev One, HP ProBook 455 G8 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, R7 5850U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 15.6" 1080p - 2 internal sodimm slots - hp barrel charging - |- | <!--Name-->HP probook 635 Aero G8 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 5600U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2921 64bit - 14in 1080p - 2 ddr4 slots - ec chip nuvoton NPCX797HA1B - bios winbond 250256JYEN - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 845 g9 || <!--Chipset-->aMD 6000 series 6850u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 680m}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB4 thunderbolt type}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Qualcomm Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit aluminum case - 14in 1080p to 2140p 16:10 poor screen again - 2 internal ddr5 sodimm slots - usb-c ac charging avoid any knocks - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 445 G10, 455 G10 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 7530U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no| }} || <!--USB-->{{no| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6in - hp round ac - |- | <!--Name-->HP ZBook Firefly 14" G11 Mobile Workstation, G11 QHD DreamColour Mobile Workstation || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen™ 7 8840HS, AMD Ryzen™ 9 8945HS || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2024 64bit - 35.6 cm (14") diagonal, WUXGA (1920 x 1200), IPS, anti-glare, 400 nits, 100% sRGB - 2 ddr5 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->HP ZBook Ultra G1a || <!--Chipset-->AMD AI Max Pro 390 12 Core, 395 16 Core || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD GPU || <!--Audio-->HDaudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - 14" Touch OLED 120Hz - 2 ddr 5 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->HP Envy 16" x360 (16-ad0007na) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen™ 7 8840HS, || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - 16GB, Touchscreen - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====IBM/Lenovo==== [[#top|...to the top]] Build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > iSeries Edge Ideapad Thinkpad - good cases and construction but electronic internals same as anyone else </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad 390X 390E (2626) || <!--Chipset-->Neo Magic MM2200 with C400 P2-266 to P3 500MHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA || <!--Audio-->{{No|256AV or ESS Solo-1}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad 600x || <!--Chipset-->Intel 440BX || <!--IDE-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Neomagic NM2360 MagicMedia 256ZX}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Crystal CS4297A codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3.1 || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit a little support - earlier 600 and 600e were Pentium 2 based |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X20 (2662-32U) X21 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 440 BX ZX DX || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 with Cirrus Logic Crystal cs4281}} || <!--USB-->1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->no mini pci intel e100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit |- | Thinkpad T20 (2647) T21 (26) T22 || 440BX || {{Maybe| }} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|Savage IX-MV (VESA only)}} || {{no|Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/ 24/30}} || {{yes|USB 1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2002 32bit |- | <!--Name-->A21e (2628, 2655) A22e || <!--Chipset-->440MX || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Ati rage mobility || <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 Cs4299 CS4229}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->intel e100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 |- | Thinkpad T23 (2647) || i810 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|S3 Super Savage IX/C SDR (VESA only)}} || {{maybe|AC'97 CS4299}} || {{yes|USB 1.1}} || {{yes|Intel ICH3 PRO 100 VE}} || {{no|Realtek RTL8180L others with bios hacking risky}} || || 2003 32bit with some support |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X22 X23 X24 || <!--Chipset-->830 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATi Mobility M6 LY || <!--Audio-->Ac97 CS4299 || <!--USB-->2 x 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->Intel Pro 100 || <!--Wireless-->Actiontec Harris Semi Intersil Prism 2.5 (X23 and X24 only) || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit with slice Ultrabase X2 - |- | <!--Name-->A30 A30p || <!--Chipset-->830 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Ati Radeon M6 || <!--Audio-->AC97 CS 4299 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel Pro 100 ve || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->A31 A31p R31 R32 T30 || <!--Chipset-->830 || <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Gfx-->Ati Radeon 7500 or FireGL || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 Intel with AD1881A codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes| Intel Pro 100 ve}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->[https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Android-Ecosystem-Developers/AROS-An-operation-system-inside-Android/td-p/1441741 Icaros 1.5.2] || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit Also tested with Icaros 2.0.3. |- | Thinkpad X30 (2673) X31 (2884-xx2) X31t || i830 || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA only Radeon M6 Mobility}} || {{yes|AC97 - AD1981B codec}} || {{yes|USB 1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{no|Cisco Aironet or Intel 2915 but atheros with bios hacking}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2004 32bit sound bit distorted |- | <!--Name-->R50e R51 || <!--Chipset-->855M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel 855M use VESA}} || <!--Audio-->intel AC97 with AD1981B codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Intel 100 VE}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - |- | IBM Thinkpad T40 (2373) T41 T41p (2379) T42 T42p T43 T43p || Intel 8xx || {{partial|PIO}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI mobility 7500 9000 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97 playback}} || {{yes|uhci 1.1 and ehci 2.0}} || {{no|e1000}} || {{Maybe|Intel 2200bg bios locked but possible AR5BMB-44 AR5212 FRU 39T0081 mini PCI}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2004 32bit 16v IBM plug - Centrino Needs ATA=nodma option - issues with the inner chip of the SMT BGA graphics chip |- | Thinkpad X32 || i855 || {{yes|40, 60 or 80GB 2.5" PATA HDD}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA only ATI Mobility Radeon 7000 with 16MB}} || {{maybe| Intel AC'97 Audio with a AD1981B codec}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Intel 1000}} || {{no|Intel 2200 but atheros with bios hacking}} || Icaros 2.1 || 2004 32bit - 12.1" TFT display with 1024x768 resolution; 256 or 512MB PC2700 memory standard (2GB max) |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X40 X40t by Quanta || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel 800 (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel e1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel but most atheros with bios hacking - difficult though}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit last IBM design |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X41 (IBM) MT 1864 1865 2525 2526 2527 2528 x41t (Lenovo) MT 1866 1867 || <!--Chipset-->Intel with single core 1.5 1.6 and tablet 1.2GHz || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 915GML 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751M tg3}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel or MiniPCI Wi-Fi Atheros AR5BMB FRU 39T0081 but ordinary atheros 54meg needs risky bios hacking}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit - amongst first Lenovo design |- | <!--Name-->R52 (most 18xx) || <!--Chipset-->Intel 915 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 915GML 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->R52 1846, 1847, 1848, 1849, 1850, 1870 || <!--Chipset-->ATi 200m || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|ATI}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751M tg3}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad T60 T60P * 64bit - 6 or 8 is 16:10 on T60/p, eg. 8742-CTO 15.4" * 32bit - 1 and 2 are 14", 15" 4:3, like 2007-YM3 or 1952-CTO || <!--Chipset-->*any* T60/p will take a Core 2 Duo CPU with newer BIOS || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA (2D) with "p" graphics card (ATi V5200 or V5250) || <!--Audio-->{{no|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || {{no|e1000e 82573L}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel ipw3945 ABG but atheros with Middleton's or Zender BIOS hacking risky}} || Icaros 1.4 || <!--Comments-->2006 - |- | <!--Name-->X60 x60s x60t tablet || <!--Chipset-->945GMS 940GML || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|AD1981 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 3945 ABG or fru 39T5578 Atheros 5K AR5BXB6 ar5007eg with bios hacking}} || <!--Comments-->Icaros 1.4 || 2006 32bit - perhaps needs a zendered bios update but risky |- | <!--Name-->R60 R60e || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->intel 950 with optional radeon x1300 x1400 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with 1981HD codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel or Broadcom || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel 3945 or atheros fru 39T5578 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit |- | Thinkpad T61 T61p without Middleton's or Zender BIOS || Core 2 Duo CPU T7300 T8300 || {{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || Intel GMA (2D), NVS 140m or Quadro FX 570M () || {{no|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || {{no|e1000e 82573L}} || {{No|Intel but atheros with bios hacking risky}} || Icaros 1.6 || 2007 64bit |- | <!--Name-->X61 x61s X61T Tablet || <!--Chipset-->i965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 3100 (2D) slow 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|AD1984 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->82566DM || <!--Wireless-->{{maybe|Atheros AR5212 (some revisions use Intel WLAN runs very hot) bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || 2007 64bit possible <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit ultrabook running very hot - |- | <!--Name-->R61 R61i || <!--Chipset-->Intel 965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->intel 965 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with conexant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5787M || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit |- | Lenovo 3000 N200 || <!--Chipset-->Santa Rosa || {{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe| }} || {{yes|Geforce 7300 (2D)}} || {{yes|ALC262 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || {{no|Broadcom}} || {{no|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2007 64bit 3D graphics parts are supported but buggy. |- | Lenovo 3000 N200 / V200 || GM965 ICH9-M with Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo T5450 || {{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe| }} || {{yes|X3100 (2D)}} || {{Maybe|HD Audio ALC269VB or CX20549}} || {{yes| }} || {{no|BCM5906M}} || {{no|Intel 3965 / 4965AGN bios locked}} || Icaros 1.4.1 2.1 || 2007 64bits of laptop works |- | <!--Name-->X300 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo Merom SL7100 1.2GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1.8 inch || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel X3100}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio AD1984A || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 4965 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit 13.3" TFT 1440x900 (WXGA+) with LED backlight |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad Edge 11″ AMD K325 || <!--Chipset-->M880G || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA for ATI HD4200}} || <!--Audio-->{{{{maybe|}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 8111}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|8192CE (Realtek 8176) bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 little support |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X301 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo Penryn SU9400 Su9600 with GM45 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1.8 inch micro SATA (uSATA) || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel X4500}} || <!--Audio-->AD1984A || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 5xxx WiFi link 5100, 5150, 5300 and 5350 (WiMAX) bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 WXGA+ (1440×900) LED backlight display - 2774 or 4057 Alps and 2776 Synaptics touchpad - optical bay interface is Legacy IDE (PATA) - Addonics ADMS18SA, Lycom ST-170m |- | <!--Name-->X100e || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon Neo Single-Core (MV-40) and dual cores || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|2.5in tray in ide mode in bios}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa ATI HD3200}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with CX20582 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8111}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek r8192se bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 11.6in 1366 x 768 - 20v 65W round barrel - enter f1 setup f11 diagnostics f12 boot list - runs very warm - |- | <!--Name-->SL400 SL500 || Intel || {{N/A}} || {{Yes|IDE mode}} || {{Maybe|Nvidia 9400M}} || {{Maybe|ALC269}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{Maybe|RTL8169}} || {{Maybe| bios locked}} || || |- | <!--Name-->SL410 SL510 || 965 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE mode}} || {{maybe|Intel GMA X4500M (some 2D)}} || {{yes|HD Audio with ALC269 codec - speaker and ear phones}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{yes|RTL8169}} || {{Maybe| bios locked}} || [http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=645774&postcount=28 Icaros 1.3] || 2009 64bit SL-410 |- | <!--Name-->T400 ODM Wistron || <!--Chipset-->i || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel 4500MHD works limited 2d no 3d - optional switchable Nvidia or ATi HD3470 untested}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with Codec CX20561 (T400)}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel e1000e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Wifi Link 5100 (AGN) half height card with FRU 43Y6493 or 5300 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 20v lenovo plug - non-free firmware required iwlwifi |- | <!--Name-->T400s || <!--Chipset-->i || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VSEA for Intel 4500MHD works limited 2d no 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with CX20585}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel e1000e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Wifi Link 5100 (AGN) half height card with FRU 43Y6493 or 5300 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit non-free firmware required iwlwifi |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo T500 T510 || <!--Chipset-->i || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA for switchable Intel / AMD HD 3640}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|Intel HD Audio with a CX20561 (t500) and CX20585 (T510) codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or Lenovo branded unit Atheros AR5007EG AR5BHB63 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit |- | <!--Name-->X200 ODM Wistron [http://itgen.blogspot.co.uk/2008/12/installing-arch-linux-on-lenovo.html X200s] and x200t tablet model without [http://fsfe.soup.io/post/590865884/the-unconventionals-blog-English-Flashing-Libreboot-on Risky flash of the Libreboot BIOS] || <!--Chipset-->GM45 GS45 with slow Celeron, SU or faster SL Core 2 Duos CPUs || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe||Intel GMA 4500 MHD 2D but slow software 3D tunnel 10 gearbox 8 tests}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel HD Audio with Conexant CX20561 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{{Yes|USB 2.0 USB SD card reads and writes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82567LM Gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel Pro 5100 5150 5300 5350 AGN due to whitelist prevention bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.1 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 12.1" CCFL (webcam version) or LED backlit (no webcam). no support for 54mm express cards or Authentec 2810 fingerprint reader - thinkpoint only no trackpad - thinklight - |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo T410 T410s T410si || <!--Chipset-->qm57 with i5 m || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use vesa Intel 5700MHD (Ironlake) core processor igp with optional Nvidia Quadro NVS 3100M}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio Conexant CX20585 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82577lm gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel n 6200 or Atheros AR9280 AR5BHB92 half size minipcie detected bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2 xmas || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit battery life much lower with Nvidia graphics version - no support firewire ricoh r5c832 - ricoh sd card - series 5 3400 |- | <!--Name-->X201 X201s x201t || <!--Chipset-->QM57 Core i3 370m, i5 M520 2.4GHz or i7 620LM 2.0GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|vesa 2d on Intel GMA HD}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel HD with [https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=94.0 Conexant 20585] codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2010 X201 arrandale power consumption limits battery life to 3-4 hours for 48Whr though to 6 on 72Whr - 12.5" WXGA |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->T420 type 4180 4236 t420s T520 4239 L520 || <!--Chipset-->i5 2540, 2520 or i7 2860QM 2620 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS but not AHCI}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 136 x 768 - Intel HD 3000 with optional NVS 4200M Nvidia optimus or Radeon HD 565v }} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio playback ear phones only with Conexant CX20672 codec - AHI 6.27}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO 1000 82579LM}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek 1x1, Intel Ultimate-N 6205 6250 2x2 6300 3x3 all bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2.2 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit add noacpi to grub boot options - screen 1600x900 or 1366x768 - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad W520 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 3000 with nvidia quadro 1000m 2000m}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel Hd with CX 20585 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82579 Lm}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6000s}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit optimus issues with Nvidia Intel hybrids unless bumblebee switching - 15.6" TFT display with 1366x768 (HD), 1600x900 (HD+) or 1920x1080 (FHD) resolution with LED backlight |- | <!--Name-->X220 x220t || <!--Chipset-->QM67 express, dual i5 2520M or i7 dual 2620M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS but not AHCI}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D 1024 x 768 for Intel HD Graphics 3000}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel HD playback with Conexant 20672 codec ear phones and speaker - AHI 6.27 6.34}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82579LM}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 Wi-Fi bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3, Aros One USB 1.6 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit possible - uses slimmer 7 mm storage sata devices - NEC USB 3.0 on i7's no support - unwanted trackpad gestures when palm rests on it - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots - external battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X120e, x121e Quanta FL8A DAFL8AMB8D0 Rev D || <!--Chipset-->Hudson M1 with slow AMD E350 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->yes || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA ATI 0x9802}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ATI SBx00 Azalia HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->USB 2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8169 RTL8111 || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom 0x0576 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit 11.6 inch screen - 1 inch think - chiclet keyboard |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad S205 G575 G585, Edge 11 E325 || <!--Chipset-->Slow E-350 later E-450 with A75 or AMD Athlon II Neo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA HD6310}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - removeable and plug in battery - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad S206 || <!--Chipset-->AMD E300 1.3GHZ Dual || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD Audio with CX20672 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|3.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom 10/100 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6" and integrated battery - Conexant® |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo x130e or x131e edu || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD E-300 or E-450 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon HD 6310 or 6320 }} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio Realtek ALC269VC / ALC3202 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|USB 30 and USB 20}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111 RTL8168B || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8188CE or Broadcom BCM43228 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - rubber edged bumper for K12 education market - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad Edge E135 E335 || <!--Chipset-->amd dual E-300, E2-1800 or E2-2000 slow atom like A68M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|SATA 3.0Gb/s 2.5" wide 7mm high}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA radeon 6310 or 7340 vga or hdmi}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HDAudio with Realtek ALC3202 codec}} || <!--USB-->2 usb3, 1 powered usb2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 8111f}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek WLAN whitelist bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6 inch to 13.3in 1366x768 - Acrylonitrile-Butadiene-Styrene (ABS) plastic case - external battery - 20v 65w lenovo barrel ac - 2 ddr3 sodimm 8Gb max - |- | <!--Name-->x140e E145 || <!--Chipset-->E1 2500 dual or A4 5000 apu quad BGA769 (FT3) || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon 8260 or 8330}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Realtek ALC269VC aka ALC3202 codec}} || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111F or Broadcom || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8188CE 11b/g/n or FRU Intel version}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit 11.6" 1366x768, non-glare and Broadcom bluetooth - education student market rugged model - both CPUs soldered - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad Edge E525 E535 LENOVO IDEAPAD Z575 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-3420M A8-3500M later A8-4500M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD 6620G later 7640G}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Conexant codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|USB2 but not usb3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 Realtek 8111}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6in 1368 x 768 matt - 65W 20v lenovo round psu - thick desktop replacement - ThinkPad Edge E520 E520S E525 E530 E545 E535 E530C Laptop Keyboard swap - |- | <!--Name-->T430 t430i T530 || <!--Chipset-->ivy bridge i5 3320 3230m on Intel QM77 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 1366 x 768 for Intel HD 4000 with optional Nvidia 5400M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with Realtek ALC3202 aka ALC269VC codec playback ear head phones - HDA 6.27}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2 ports and usb2.0 devices thru usb 3.0 ports}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel e1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or Atheros AR9285 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit fan noise and chiclet keyboard, synaptics trackpad 06CB:CE2D 06CB:7F28 - HD+ 1600x900 or 768p - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad L430 L530 || <!--Chipset-->Intel HM series 7 chipset i5 3210M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 4000}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with Realtek ALC269VC codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8169 rtl810x || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 6205 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit alps trackpad - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad W530 || <!--Chipset-->Intel HM series 7 chipset i5 3210M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 4000 with Nvidia GK107GLM Quadro K2000M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with Realtek ALC3202 ALC269VC codec }} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82579LM || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6300 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - ricoh sdxc slot - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X230 x230t || <!--Chipset-->Intel QM67 express i5 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with ALC269 aka ALC3202}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|I}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - 12.2 in 1366 x 768 - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots - external battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad T440 t440s t440p T540 L440 L540 || <!--Chipset-->intel haswell 8 series Core i3 to i7 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA - Intel 4600 or Nvidia}} || <!--Audio-->Intel HD with Realtek ALC3232 alc269 codec or ALC292 || <!--USB-->2 usb 3.0 and 2 usb 2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel AC 7260 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 14 and 15" models with glitchy trackpad and no physical buttons - IPS options available - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components or 4 variants of key caps - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X240 x240t ultrabook TN (20AL0081GE), HD IPS display without touch (20AL007NGE) and touch (20AL0076GE) but all 65% sRGB || <!--Chipset-->haswell i7-4600U i5 4200U 4210U 4300U i3-4100U - two batteries, one internal 3cell 45N1110 (45N1111) or 45N1112 (FRU 45N1113) and external 3 / 6cell 45N1126 (FRU 45N1127) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in 7mm sata (torq t7), m.2 2242 in WWAN slot (m and b key NGFF Sata) || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for Intel 4400 for vga or mini-dp}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 0x8086 0x0a0c 0x9c20 with Realtek ALC3232 aka ALC292 0x10ec 0x0292}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel® 82577LM Gigabit (Hanksville) }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel 7260n I218-V or I218-LM bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 12.2in 1366 x 768 or 1080p - 1 ddr3l sodimm slot - no keyboard spill drainage and at least 2 variants of key caps - lenovo rectangle pwr ac - TPM 1.2 - Bluetooth 4.0 no support - large touchpad with integrated but no physical buttons - bottom panel loosening 8 retained screws - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad T450 T450s t450p T550 L550 || <!--Chipset-->Intel i5 4300U i3 5010U i5 5200U 5300U i7 5500U 5600U soldered || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 5500 5600 with optional nvidia 940M}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD Audio with ALC3232 codec Realtek ALC3232 0x10ec 0x0292}} || <!--USB-->{{no|3 USB 3.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Wireless AC 7265 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit 14" 1366 x 768, 1600 x 900 or IPS 1920x1080 - Broadwell - keyboard swap requires removal of all components and key cap versions - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad x250 x250t || <!--Chipset-->i3 5010U i5 5200U 5300U i7 5600U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|2.5in 7mm or m.2 2242 sata (m and b key)}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Realtek ALC3232 codec / Intel HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{no|up to 3 USB 3.0 partly boots from usb but stops waiting for usb}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel I218 extension port}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel AC 7265 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.0 USB || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - 1366 x 768, 1920 × 1080 12.5" screen - Fn and F1 for setup bios - F12 boot options - 1 ddr3l sodimm slot - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad E540 || <!--Chipset-->Intel || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2D for Intel gfx}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HDAudio with Conexant CX20751-21Z codec}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB2 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 8111gus}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel Wireless-N 7260 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 15.6in 1376 x 786 - plastic construction - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad Edge E545 * key cap swap with E440 E531 E540 L440 L450 T431S T440S T440P T540 * Keyboard swap L540 T540p W540 Edge E531 E540 W541 T550 W550S L560 P50S T560 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Socket FS1r2 A6-5350M (2c2t) or A8-4500M, A8-5550M, A10-5750M (4c4t) with A76M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in 9.5mm - enter UEFI bios with Enter or ESC, config section, sata into compatibility and security, secure boot disabled - mini sata DVD burner PLSD DS8A9SH || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD 7640G, 8450G, 8550G, 8650G ?? Islands}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|VOID 6.3 for HDAudio 8086:1c20 Conexant CX20590 Analog 0x14f1 0x506e, CX20671 codec 0x14f1 0x5069, or audio over Trinity HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|boots pen drives from yellow usb port but not from blue USB3 ones}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 1GbE 8111F}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM43142 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.3 USB with noacpi added to end of grub2 boot line but no further boot for usb3 socket/stick || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit SSE 4.1 and AVX - 15.6in 1366 x 768 matt - 20v 65w 90w round lenovo plug psu - 2 DDR3 SODIMM slots stacked up to 16GB Max - external 6 Cell Li-Ion Battery 48Wh - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery in wifi area jp1202 - amd v(tm) virtualization not working - |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo G505s || <!--Chipset-->AMD A8 5550M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD 8550M islands chipset}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Qualcomm Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit 15.6" - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad Flex 15D 20334 || <!--Chipset-->AMD a6 5200, e1 2100, || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Radeon R3 southern islands chipset}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 8169 rtl810x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k whitelist for wifi swap}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo B50-45, G50-45 80E3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A8-6410 (2c), A6-6400 (2c), AMD A8 (4c), AMD A4-6300 (2c), AMD E2-6200 (2c), AMD E1-6050 (2c) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|I}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit 15.6" 1366 x 768 - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad E455 E555 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-7000 A8-7100 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R5 }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Conexant® CX20751 codec 0x14f1 0x510f}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111GUS || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8723BE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - 14 768p or up to 15.6in 1080p - 2 DDR3L slots max 16G - no TPM - keyboard swap but Lenovo E550 E550C E555 E560 E560C E565 range has at least 2 different key cap variants - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Z40-75 Z50-75 || <!--Chipset-->A10-7300 4c 4t || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R6 6CUs}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - heavy - external battery - slim box lenovo ac - dvdrw - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad E465 E565 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-8500P 8600P A8-8700P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Conexant® CX11852 codec 0x14f1 0x5}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6" 1366 x 768 to 1080p IPS - Polycarbonate, ABS Plastic shell casing - internal battery - |- |<!--Name-->AMD platform codes *Beema: ABM, *Carizzo-L: ACL, *Carizzo: ACZ, *Godavari: AGR, *Kaveri: AKV, *Stoney Ridge: ASR, *Stoney Ridge: AST (NB), || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> *Summit Ridge: ASU, *Bristol Ridge-L: ABL, *Bristol Ridge: ABR, *Raven Ridge: ARR, *Picasso: API |- | <!--Name-->LENOVO IDEAPAD 500-15ACZ || <!--Chipset-->AMD 4c A10-8700P A8-8600P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5 M.2 || <!--Gfx-->VESA for Radeon R5 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek Atheros Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bits - 15.6" 768p to 1080p - 2 ddr3l slots max 16gb - 45w rectangle psu - |- | <!--Name-->lenovo yoga 510-14ast 8059, || <!--Chipset-->A6-9210 A9-9410 and Intel Xeon E3-1200 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 45w 20v round barrel 4.0 * 1.7mm fits Yoga 310 510 520 710 - Harman Audio - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->V110-14AST V110-15AST V110 (15") || <!--Chipset-->AMD E1-9000, A6-9210 to A9-9410 all dual core || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 2.5in sata most 7mm some 9.5mm || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD R2, R3, R5 or R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in mostly 768p to 1080p 220 nits - 20v 45W or 65W lenovo slim rectangle end ac - keyboard swap hard - integrated 24WHr battery - 4gb ddr4 ram soldered and 1 2133Mhz ddr4 slot max 12Gb - abs plastic - |- |<!--Name--> *ThinkPad A275 12in (1 ddr4 1866MHz sodimm) *Thinkpad A475 14in (2 ddr4 1866MHz sodimm) - both internal (main) and external (secondary) battery || <!--Chipset-->A10-8730B A10-9700B 2.500Ghz later A12-8830B A12-9800B all 4c4t (AVX2 on 9000s) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|Sata3 port for 7mm 2.5in ssd hdd with mbr and not gpt, setup in other machines - secure boot disabled, bios startup boot set to legacy then uefi - WWAN slot cannot use M.2 2242 sata with M and B key}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD R5 or R7}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 0x1022, 0x157a 6.34 ahi with ALC3268 codec 0x10ec, 0x0298 aka ALC298 - VOID even with QUERY / QUERYD added}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 starts to boot pendrives but stops, usb mouse not detected}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 RTL8111EPV, shell pinging google.com works but apps like OWB start when copied to RAM: and run from there}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8822BE WLAN whitelist locked cannot swap}} || <!--Test Distro-->{{No|AROSOne USB 1.8 with noacpi noapic noioapic added to grub2 boot line then hanging on bootable media (kitty eyes)}} || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit 12 or 14in 1366 x 768 poor screen - 45W or 65w lenovo rectangle ac adapter - F1 enter bios and F12 boot order - 6 retained screws and snap on base - keyboard swap not easy - 2100 error message no solution except using only efi/gpt bios option - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E475 E575 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9500b A10-9600P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Conexant CX11852 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek R8111GUS || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 15.6" 1366 x 768 to 1080p IPS - Polycarbonate, ABS Plastic shell casing - internal battery - two DDR4 SO-DIMM sockets clocks down with 1866MHz DDR4 memory controller - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Ideapad S145-14AST S145-15AST || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9225, A9-9425, A10-9600P 7th Gen, AMD A12-9720P Mobo 5B20P11110 NMB341 Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon 8670A 8670M 8690M GCN 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A|N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 or Realtek RTL8821CE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 14in or 15.6" 768p or 1080p - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Ideapad V145-14AST V145-15AST, 81mt, Ideapad 310, Ideapad 320-15ABR, Ideapad 330-14AST 330-15AST 330-17AST || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9225, A9-9425 (2c2t), A10-9600P 7th Gen, AMD A12-9720P Mobo 5B20P11110 NMB341 Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon 8670A 8670M 8690M GCN 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with ALC236 codec, }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|rtl8169 10/100 only}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 or Realtek RTL8821CE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 14in or 15.6" 768p or 1080p - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - 45w 6w slim ac adapter - keyboard swap problematic - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo V330-14ARR 81B1, Ideapad 330s 15ARR, || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R3 2200U, 2300U or R5 2500U Raven Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3, 6 or 8 up to 1Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|Realtek 1GbE but not on 330s}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14" 20mm thick 1.8kg - 20v 2.25a 45w ac round barrel - chiclet keyboard - 4Gb soldered and 1 ddr4 sodimm - TPM 2.0 in bios - battery internal about 30whr - 4GB soldered - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad Edge E485 E585 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R3 2300U R5 2500U R7 2700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme maybe 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Vega 3, 8 or 10}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with CX11852 codec }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 rtl8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in or 15.6in 768p or 1080p - USB-C 20V 2.25A 3.25A avoid knocking charging port as damages easily - 2 ddr4 sodimm slot max 2400Mhz 32GB - internal battery only - TPM 2.0 software - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad A285 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen PRO 3 2200U 5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata port and m.2 sata ngff port || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC ALC3287 codec aka ALC257 }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Mini-Ethernet/Docking}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Qualcomm - WLAN whitelist no more??}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 12.5in 1080p - avoid usb-c port being lifted/moved whilst in use as damages laptop easily - internal and external battery - soldered ram 8gb or 16gb - WWAN whitelist - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad A485 bios setting [https://github.com/PSPReverse/PSPTool AMD PSP Platform Security Processor Key] || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen PRO 5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata port and m.2 sata ngff port || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC ALC3287 codec aka ALC 257 }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUL}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Qualcomm - WLAN whitelist no more??}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in 768p, 1080p or 1440p - avoid usb-c port being lifted/moved whilst in use as damages laptop easily - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 32gb - internal and external battery - WWAN whitelist - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Yoga 530-14ARR 81H9 || <!--Chipset-->R5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in 1080p - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo V14-ADA, V15-ADA 82C700E4UK || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 3050U, 3150U, 3250U, Ryzen 5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1x 2.5" HDD + 1x M.2 SSD NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Qualcomm}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14 or 15.6in - internal battery - 4GB soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - keyboard swap problematic - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad E Edge E495 20NE, Edge E595, || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 3200U r5 3500U, R7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 nvme maybe 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Vega 3, 8 or 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with synaptic formerly conexant CX11880 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14in or 15.6in 768p or 1080p - ddr4 soldered with 1 dimm slot - USB-C charger issue was fixed with a BIOS update, if not the charger shorts the motherboard - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo v155-15api 81V5 V155 (15" AMD) budget all plastic build || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon 300U, Ryzen 3 3200U r5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 nvme and usually 2.5in 7mm sata - install on mbr not gpt 2.5in in another compatible machine - mini sata dvd/cd da-8aesh11b || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D 1920x1080, 1280x1024, 800x600 work for Vega 3 or 8 with up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken but hdmi 1.4b no output}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio add 0x1022, 0x15E3 with Realtek ALC257 codec 0x10ec, 0x0257 - no issues with 32bit}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 not detected with no usb-c ports}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS works well with 32bit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.8 USB 32bit and deadwoods native x64 iso with grub line ATA=32bit noacpi || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 768p or 1080p 200nits tn panel - 4Gb ddr4 2400MHz soldered with 1 dimm slot max 20Gb - round ac 20V 65W psu 4.0mm x 1.7mm - MS created a new protocol, HID over I2C so [https://askubuntu.com/questions/1033033/elantech-touchpad-does-not-work-i2c-hid elantech i2c-hid i2c PS2 hybrid trackpad] 04F3:3140 touchpad not functioning - internal sunwoda battery L18D3PF1 35Whr but also L18L3PF1 L18C3PF2 - Fn+F2 to enter bios and F12 boot order - no sd card slot - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad C340-13AP1, IdeaPad S340-14API C340-14API || <!--Chipset-->R3 3200U, R5 3500U, R7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3, 8, 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 13in convertible or 14" laptop - 4GB soldered - usb-c charging care needed - keyboard swap problematic - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo IdeaPad L340-15API 81LW001CUS L340-17API untested || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon 300U, Ryzen 3 3200U r5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 nvme and usually 2.5in sata - install on mbr not gpt 2.5in in another compatible machine - mini sata dvd/cd da-8aesh11b || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Vega 3 or 8 with up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken - hdmi 1.4b}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio add 0x1022, 0x15E3 with Realtek ALC236 0x10ec, 0x0236}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 not detected}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.8 USB || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 768p or 1080p 200nits - 4Gb ddr4 2400MHz soldered with 1 dimm slot max 20Gb - round ac 20V 65W psu 4.0mm x 1.7mm - elan trackpad not functioning - internal battery - Return or F1 to enter bios and F12 boot order - no sd card slot - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad S540-14API, Ideapad S145-14API, S145-15API || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3020e to 300U, 5 3500U, 7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme, some may have 1 2.5in space || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega 3, 8 or 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|3.1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|RTL8822BE AC (1×1)}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - keyboard swap problematic - sd card slot - no cd dvd - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot 2400Mhz - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad T295 T495 T495s X395 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 3300U, R5 Pro 3500U or R7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 NVMe up to 2280 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 6, 8 or 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111EPV not on slim T495s}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8822BE or Intel AC 9260}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14in 768p but mostly FHD 1080p 250 nits - internal battery - ram 8gb or 16gb 2400Mhz soldered with 1 ddr4 slot on T495 only - TPM 2.0 - usb-c charging avoid knock whilst in use - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 Gen2, E15 Gen 2 (AMD) 20T8, - lenovo has a mobile phone PC Diagnostic App for error/beep codes || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 4300U, 5 4500U, 7 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2 m.2 nvme, 1 2242 and 1 2280 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD Radeon up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 15.6in 1080p 220 nits - TPM 2.0 - usb-c charging of internal 45Whr battery - 4gb ddr4 3200Mhz soldered and 1 ddr4 sodimm slot max 20Gb - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkPad T14, Lenovo L14 Gen 1, L15 Gen 1, ThinkPad P14s Gen 1 (AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 4300u, 5 4500U, Ryzen 5 Pro 4650U, Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R5 }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111EPV (DASH models) or RTL8111HN}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - USB-C charger avoid moving whilst in use - 14" or 15" 1080p - keyboard swap problematic - 8gb or 16gb 3200MHz soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - sd card slot - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkPad X13 Gen1 AMD, || <!--Chipset-->AMD RYZEN 3 4450U, 5 4650U or 7 4750U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->One drive, up to 512GB M.2 2242 SSD or 1TB M.2 2280 SSD NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA Radeon up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{unk| but USB-C ports can fail}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Realtek RTL8111EPV, mini RJ-45 to RJ-45 via optional ThinkPad Ethernet Extension Adapter Gen 2}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek Wi-Fi 6 RTL8852AE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 13.3" HD 1366x768 to 1080p - USB-C port care needed as damages easily - Memory soldered to systemboard, no slots, dual-channel DDR4-3200 - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkBook 14 G2, 15 G2 Are ITL || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 4500u, 7 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->14in has 2 m.2 nvme but 15in has 1 nvme and might have 2.5in metal sata caddy || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in or 15in 1080p - usb-c charging powered - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot 3200mhz - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad 5 14ARE05 (81YM) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 3 4300U (4c4t), 5 4500u (6c6t) 4600U (6c12t), 7 4700u (8c16t) on AMD Promontory Bixby FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1x M.2 2242 slot and may have 1x M.2 2280 NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 6 hdmi up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel ax200 wifi 6}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit 14inch 768p or 1080p - round lenovo ac - 4gb, 8gb, or 16gb ddr4 3200Mhz ram soldered non upgradable - keyboard swap problematic - integrated battery - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->Ideapad Flex 5 81X2 || <!--Chipset-->AMD R5 4500u, R7 4800U, R3 5300 R5 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 NVMe ssd || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC? codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3.1 gen 1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|realtek ac wifi}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit abs plastic case 14in convertible 1080p touch low nits - 65w usb-c psu ac - possible wacom esr note taking pen supplied - ram soldered DDR4 - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkBook 14 G3, 15 G3 ACL || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 14in or 15in 1080p - usb-c charging powered - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 G3, E15 Gen 3 (AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 5300U 5500U 5650U 5700U 5800U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->up to 2 m.2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|realtek or intel }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - - usb-c charging issues lenovo has a mobile phone PC Diagnostic App for error/beep codes - keyboard swap problematic - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 3200Mhz sodimm slot - |- |<!--Name-->V15 G2 ALC 82KD || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 5300U, 5 5500U, 7 5700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme 2280 with some having 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H-CG}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 15.6" FHD 1080p - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - 65w round ac adaptor - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L15 Gen 2 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 5000 series AMD Ryzen 3 5400U (4c8t), 5 5600U, 5 5650U (6c12t), 7 PRO 5850U (8c16t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111EPV (DASH models) or RTL8111HN}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 15.6in 768p or 1080p - usb-c charging - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr4 3200Mhz sodimm slot - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 Gen 4, E15 Gen 4 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 3 5425u, 5 5625U, 7 5825u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 (14") or 2 (15") nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - usb-c charging - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 3200Mhz sodimm slot - L19M3PDA 45Whr battery - U24 TPS65994 and QB6 QB5 mosfet issues - |- |<!--Name-->V15 G3 ALC || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 6500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15"FHD - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L15 Gen 3 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 6000 series || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit- 15.6in 1080p - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Yoga 7 14ARB7 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5, 6600U, 7 6800U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD 660M or 680M || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with ALC3306 aka alc287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 14in 1800p ips 300 nits - usb-c ac charging 71whr integrated battery - sd card slot - digital pen input - 8gb, 6gb or 32gb soldered ddr5 ram - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 g5, E15 Gen 5 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7000 series 7 7730U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB4 thunderbolt}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit- 15.6in 1080p - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkbook 14 G6 ABP IRL || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 7530U 7730U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 untested}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 14in 1200p or 1440p - 100W USB-C AC power adapter - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad Slim 5 Light 14ABR8 Laptop || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 7330U (4c8t) 5 7530U (6c12t) 7 7730U (8c16t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2 m.2 nvme slot - 1 2242, 1 2280 || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 14in 1080p - 8Gb or 16Gb soldered ram - usb-c charging only - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad X13 Gen 4 (13" AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7480U 7040U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{unk| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 - avoid usb-c port damage - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L15 Gen 4 (15" AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7480U 7040U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{unk| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo V15 G4 AMN || <!--Chipset-->AMD AMD Athlon™ Gold 7220U (2c4t), AMD Athlon™ Silver 7120U (2c2t), AMD Ryzen™ 3 7320U (4c8t), AMD Ryzen™ 5 7520U (4c8t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for AMD 610M HDMI® and USB-C}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDaudio with ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Gigabit Ethernet, 1x RJ-45 || <!--Wireless-->{{no|wifi 6}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6" FHD (1920x1080) - 8 or 16Gb soldered - 65W round tip (3-pin) AC adapter or USB-C - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad e14 G6, e15 Gen 6 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7000 series AMD Ryzen™ 7 7735HS || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit- 15.6in 1080p - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L16 (16" AMD), ThinkPad T14 Gen 5 (14" AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 8000 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB4}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Samsung==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="2%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->NP-Q1 Q1 || <!--Chipset-->Celeron-M 353 ULV 600Mhz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes|1.8" SFF HDD 20 / 60 GB }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 915 2D and 3D opengl1 tunnel 95 gearbox 68}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec - head phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Yes|Atheros 5006EX}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit old style tablet UltraMobile PC UMPC - Wacom serial resistive pen or finger no support - 1 sodimm ddr2 max 1Gb - LCD 7" WVGA (800 x 480) - CompactFlash port Type II - |- | <!--Name-->NP Q1U Ultra Mobile PC UMPC Q1F NP-Q1-F000 || <!--Chipset-->Intel A100 600 / A110 Stealey 800 MHz CPU || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|GMA 950 2D and 3D opengl1}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio 1986}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros 5006EX}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit 1024×600 - sd card slot - |- | <!--Name-->NP P500 family P500Y || <!--Chipset-->AMD with SB600 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Ati x1250}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| Audio with codec }} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8039 yukon}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|Atheros G}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->64bit possible - 15.4 tft display - cheap plastic okay build - 19v propriety end - |- | <!--Name-->R505 R510 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros G || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->R520 R522 R610H R620 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Mobile Core i3 Intel PM45 82801M ICH9-M|| <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 (RV730) || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC272 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Marvell Yukon 88E8057 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR5007EG || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2010 64 bit possible |- | NP-R530 || || {{N/A}} || {{partial|IDE mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{partial|HD Audio playback}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{no|Marvell}} || {{no|Atheros AR9285}} || Icaros 1.5.2 || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Samsung R730 17.3 Essential Notebook NP-R730-JA02UK, NP-R730-JA01SE, R730-JT06 || <!--Chipset-->Intel HM55 Dual Core T4300 i3-370M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for Intel 4500MHD and GeForce G 310M with 1 VGA, 1 HDMI}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio ALC??? codec Realtek}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell Yukon 88E8059 PCI-E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom, Intel or Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro-->Deadwoods ISO 2023-11 || <!--Comments-->2010 64bit - 17.3in HD 1280 x 720 pixels low contrast or some 1600x900 - 2 DDR3 sodimm slots - 2.84 kg 6.26 lbs - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-305U1A-A01DE-Subnotebook.68246.0.html Series 3 Samsung 305u1a] || <!--Chipset-->AMD Zacate E350 or E450 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon 6320 || <!--Audio-->ALC ACL 269 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom 4313 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit |- | <!--Name-->NP-RV415 NP-RV515 || <!--Chipset-->E350 or E450 plus A50M chipset || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon HD 6470 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio Realtek || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111 8168B || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9285 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit slow - |- | <!--Name-->Series 5 NP535U3C || <!--Chipset-->A6-4455M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in || <!--Gfx-->radeon || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit slow - 13.3in 1368 x 768 - plastic build - 65w 19v psu - |- | <!--Name-->series 3 NP355V5C || <!--Chipset-->A6-4400M, A8-4500M, A10-4600M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in || <!--Gfx-->7640M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit - 15.4in 1368 x 768 - plastic build - 65w 19v psu - |- | <!--Name-->Samsung ATIV Book 9 Lite NP905S3G || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-1450 quad 1GHz Temash atom like || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->128gb || <!--Gfx-->AMD 8250 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek rtl8169 but only with mini LAN AA-AE2N12B Ethernet Adapter RJ45 dongle}} || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9565 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 13.3 TN glossy 1366 x 768 200nits 60% srgb - plastic case - 26W battery built in with 4hr life - 19V 2.1A 3.0*1.0mm psu - 1 ddr3l slot max 4gb - 720p webcam - mini hdmi out - 1w speakers - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Toshiba==== [[#top|...to the top]] Order of Build Quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Equium Satellite (Pro) Libretto Portege Tecra </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Tecra 8100 8200 9000 || 440BX || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|S3 Savage MX 3D (VESA only)}} || {{no|Yamaha DS-XG ymf744 ymf-754}} || {{yes|USB1.1 only}} || {{N/A}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.5 || little support |- | <!--Name-->Tecra 9100 || <!--Chipset-->810 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|S3 Savage IX}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|ymf754}} || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->eeee pro100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->PSU Adapter For Toshiba Tecra 9000 9100 A1 A10 A11 A3 A3X A4 A5 A7 M1 M2 M3 M4 M5 M7 M9 R10 S1 series 75 Watt 15V 5A |- | [http://tuxmobil.org/toshiba_sp4600.html Satellite Pro 4600] || i810 || IDE || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Trident Cyber Blade XP (VESA only)}} || {{no|YAMAHA DS-XG AC97 ymf754}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel e100}} || {{no|Agere (internal PCMCIA)}} || || little support |- | Satellite 2805 S603 || Intel 815 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|nVidia GeForce2 Go}} || {{no|Yamaha Corp YMF 754}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO/100}} || {{dunno}} || || little support |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A10 S167 S1291 - A15 A20 A25 || <!--Chipset-->P4M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GM or Radeon || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139 || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel 2100, Agere or Atheros PA3399U 1MPC minipci}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->a few models came with antenna leads |- | Satellite [http://eu.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/jsp/SUPPORTSECTION/discontinuedProductPage.do?service=EU&com.broadvision.session.new=Yes&PRODUCT_ID=76230 A30-714] || P4-M / 82845 i845 || {{yes|82801}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes}} || {{yes|RTL8139}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || nice laptop, drawbacks: heavy, really hot (P4-3.06 GHz!!) - A30 (EU) A33 (Australian) A35 (USA) - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A40 A45 || <!--Chipset-->P4M or Celeron M with Intel 845 865 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GME or Radeon 7000 Mobility || <!--Audio-->AC97 Realtek || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5002G 5004G - PA3299U mini pci || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - A40 S161 A40-S1611 A40-2701, A45-S120 A45-S1201 S130 S1301 S1501 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite a50 A55 a60-s156 Equium A60 PSA67E A65 || <!--Chipset-->P4M or Celeron M with Intel 845 865 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GME or Radeon 7000 Mobility || <!--Audio-->AC97 Realtek || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5002G 5004G - PA3299U mini-pci || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A70 A75-S206 A80 A85-S107 || <!--Chipset-->P4M or Celeron-M with Intel 845 865 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GME or Radeon 7000 Mobility || <!--Audio-->AC97 Realtek || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5002G 5004G - PA3299U mini-pci || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5.1 || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - |- | Toshiba Satellite Pro M30 || intel 855 || {{yes|boots with ATA=nodma option}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{yes|Intel PRO/100 VE}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.5 || nice laptop with some support |- | <!--Name-->Portege M300 - M200 tablet || <!--Chipset-->855GM with 1.2GHz Pentium M 753 || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2d only - tablet with nvidia 5200 go}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 STAC 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->little support |- | <!--Name-->Tecra M2 M2-S || <!--Chipset-->Intel 855P Pentium-M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->nvidia fx go5200 32mb or 64mb agp || <!--Audio-->AC97 1981B || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Intel Pro || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - PSU 15V 5A - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro L20 267 (PSL2YE PSL2XE) PSL25E L30 || <!--Chipset-->Celeron M 370 1.4 1.5GHz, 1.73Ghz with RC410M SB400 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - Ati x200}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|[https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-490297-start-0.html ALC861]}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Boots usb sticks}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8139 Realtek 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros mini-pci should work maybe not working with ATi chipset or need to swap??}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit 14" pioneer dvd-rw - 19v |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L30 PSL30E L33 PSL33E || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 800 or ATi RC410 x200 || <!--Audio-->AC97 AD1981B or HD Audio ALC861 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros or Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->L30 PSL30L 101 PSL33E 113 115 134 00M019 - |- | Satellite Pro M40 313 psm44e || AMD with Ati || {{yes|boots with ATA=nodma}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{yes|}} || {{maybe|atheros askey ar5bmb5 mini pci}} || || 2005 32bit - nice laptop with some support |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L40 PSL40E PSL40L, PSL43E || <!--Chipset-->945GM with U7700 1.3GHz ULV || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945 || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD with AD1986A codec}} || <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR24xx Askey || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.3 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit only - - 12X 13G 139 14B 143 15J 19O - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L45 PSL40U S7409 S2416 || <!--Chipset-->945GM with Celeron M 440 1.86 GHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945 || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD with AD1986A codec}} || <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR24xx Askey || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.3 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit only - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro A100 || <!--Chipset-->940G || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia G72M Quadro NVS 110M GeForce Go 7300 / Ati (PSAA3E)|| <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC861 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 100 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 swap with atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A110 159 (PSAB0), Equium A110 (PSAB2E), Satellite A110 233 (PSAB6), || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->ALC861 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8136 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro A120 PSAC0 PSAC1 PSAC1E || <!--Chipset-->Core Solo GMA 950 to T2300 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 945 || <!--Audio-->ALC262 or AC97 AD1981B || <!--USB-->UHCI EHCI || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros Ar5001 or Intel or Broadcom || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->15V 4A charger - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro A120 || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo ATi RS480 + SB450 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA - ATI RC410 Radeon Xpress 200M || <!--Audio-->ALC262 || <!--USB-->OCHI UHCI || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 or Atheros Ar5001 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->15v 5a proprietary charger needed |- | <!--Name-->Satelite A130 PSAD6U || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8101E || <!--Wireless-->Atheros or Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->ST1311 s1311 ST1312 S2276 S2386 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A135 S2686 (Compal LA 3391P) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8101E || <!--Wireless-->Atheros or Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->S2246 S2346 S2256 S4477 S4666 S4827 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A200 PSAE1E (Inventec MW10M) || <!--Chipset-->Pentium M with 945GM Express || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}}|| <!--SATA--> {{Maybe|SATA}}|| <!--Gfx--> {{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D and 3D)}}|| <!--Audio--> {{Yes|HD Audio ALC862}}|| <!--USB--> {{Yes| }}|| <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|RTL8101E}}|| <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros 5000 - FN,F5 or FN,F8 or switch}} || <!--Test Distro--> AspireOS 1.8 || <!--Comments-->2006 Excellent 32 bit support! - Celeron M 520 1.6Ghz or Pentium® Core Duo T2130 1.86 GHz - make sure that your WLAN card is enabled, do this using the hardware switch and FN+F8 key combination |- | <!--Name--> A210, Satellite A215 AMD (Inventec 10A) S5808 || <!--Chipset--> Ati with SB690 || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}}|| <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|SATA}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA HD2600 Mobility M76}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC268 || <!--USB--> {{Yes| }}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8101E}}|| <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros 5000}}|| <!--Test Distro--> AspireOS 1.8 || <!--Comments-->A215-S7422 A215-S7472 A215-S4697 (USA) - |- | <!--Name--> [http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=62036 A215 S4757] || <!--Chipset--> Ati X1200 with SB600 || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}}|| <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|SATA}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> {{Yes| }}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8101E}}|| <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros 5000}}|| <!--Test Distro--> AspireOS 1.8 || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Tecra A10 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{Maybe|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|Intel GMA 4500M (2D)}} || <!--Audio--> {{Yes|HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> {{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO 1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel WiFi Link 5100}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->64 bit possible |- | <!--Name-->L35 - L40 PSL48E - L45 S7423 || <!--Chipset-->GL960 with Intel Celeron || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|X3100 some 2D but software 3d tunnel 9 gearbox 4}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC660 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|REALTEK 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek 8187b replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->1,73Ghz M 520 or M 540 or Dual T2310 (1.46 GHz) T2330 (1.6 GHz) - 14H 14N 15B 17H 17K 17R 17S 18Z - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite a300 - inventec potomac 10s pt10s A300D 21H || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio - Realtek || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8102E || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5005 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->satellite L300D-224 PSLC8E PSLC9E, l305 (inventec ps10s) || <!--Chipset-->AMD M780 with Turion RM70 or QL-64 || <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} || <!--SATA--> {{yes|SATA}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|use VESA for Radeon 3100}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio with Realtek ALC268}} || <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet--> {{no|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros G XB63L or Intel or Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros Desktop Live 2.3 AROS One 2.3 || <!--Comments--> Wireless-handler crashing when using Atheros-Wireless-Card |- | <!--Name-->satellite l300-1bw PSLBDE-005005AR, L300-148 PSLB0E, l300-20D PSLB8E-06Q007EN, l300-294 L300-23L PSLB9E || <!--Chipset-->Intel GM45 + PGA478 socket Celeron 900, Pentium T1600, T2390, T3400 (Socket P) to Core2 Duo T6400 T6670 || <!--IDE--> {{unk|IDE}} || <!--SATA--> {{unk|SATA}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|use VESA for Intel gma 4500M}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio with Realtek ALC???}} || <!--USB--> {{unk|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet--> {{unk|rtl8169 Realtek 810xE}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64-bit - new unfamiliar Bios called insyde H20 - |- | <!--Name-->satellite l350d || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon (tm) X2 QL-60 + RS780M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 3100 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8187b || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L450 12 13 14 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Sempron, 2.1GHz with AMD RS780M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 3200 (based on HD 2400) || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8172 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->12X 13P 13X 14V PSLY6E00C006EN |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro L450 (Compal LA-5821P) 179 || <!--Chipset-->intel celeron 900 2.20 Ghz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->intel 4500m || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101 /2 /6E PCI Express Gigabit || <!--Wireless-->RTL8191 SEvB || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->39.6cm (15.6”) Toshiba TruBrite® HD TFT High Brightness display with 16:9 aspect ratio internal resolution 1366 x 768 |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->L755D (E-350) L750D (E-450) || <!--Chipset-->AMD || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 6310 6320 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio conexant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Realtek || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro SP C640 C660D-15X (PSC1YE) C670D- () || <!--Chipset-->AMD E350 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->6310G || <!--Audio-->HD Realtek ALC259 || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 zacate |- |<!--Name-->Toshiba Satellite C660D-19X || <!--Chipset-->AMD E-300 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATi || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->r8169 rtl8101e || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8188 8192ce rtl8192ce || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->C70D-A C75D-A || <!--Chipset-->E1-1200 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD HD8330 || <!--Audio-->HA Audio CX20751 11Z || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8162 alx}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek 8188e}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satelite Pro C40D-A C50D-A C55D-A || <!--Chipset-->Slow E1 2100 or faster A4 5000 kabini || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->8330 || <!--Audio-->HD Realtek ALC269Q || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|AR8162}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RTL8188EE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Satelite S50D || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-5745M (4c4t), A8-5545M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon 8550M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->REaltek GbE || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8188E || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 15.6in 2.38kg and 24mm - |- | <!--Name-->Satelite C50DT-B-107 PSCN6E M50DT-A-210 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A8-6410 A6-5200 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon R3 R5 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->REaltek GbE || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8188E || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 15.6 Inch Touchscreen 1366 x 768 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L50D-C-13G || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-8700P 6th Gen || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon R6 || <!--Audio-->HD || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->1GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Sharp formerly 80% Toshiba Computers || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->dynabook formerly 20% Toshiba PC, Satellite Pro C40D C50D || <!--Chipset-->intel i? or AMD Ryzen || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in and 15.6in - ddr4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Misc==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Time 500 Packard Bell EasyOne 1450 1550 || <!--Chipset-->K6-3 500Mhz + VIA MVP4 vt82c686a || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|Issues}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA || <!--Audio-->{{No|VIA AC97 3058 with wolfson codec WM9703 WM9704 WM9707 WM9708 or WM9717}} || <!--USB-->via 3038 2 ports USB 1.1 untested || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro-->NB May 2013 || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit grub runs but stalls around [PCI] Everything OK |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Sony Vaio PCG FX201/FX202 FX210/FX215 FX401/FX402 FX404/FX405 972M, FX501/FX502 FX504/FX505, FX601/FX602, FX604/FX605 FXA53(US), FX701/FX702, FX704/FX705, FX801/FX802 FX804/FX805 || <!--Chipset-->[http://gaugusch.at/vaio/ FX] [http://tech.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/FX210/ Sony Yahoo Group] VIA KT133A KM133 Duron 800Mhz Athlon 1.3Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{partial|boot issue with 2013 kernel VIA [rev 06]}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|ATI Rage Mobility Pro (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|VIA AC97 686b [rev 50] AD1881A Ear phone and Mic}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|UHCI [rev 1a]}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Comments-->Nightly 1st March 2013 || <!--Comments-->booting usb pendrive from Plop Boot Loader floppy (no bios USB boot). Can freeze coz hardware issue or a ram slot problem - no support for iLink firewire VT8363/8365 pci - vt82c686b |- | <!--Name-->Sony Vaio PCG FX100 R505LE || <!--Chipset-->Intel i815 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA Intel 82815 CGC || <!--Audio-->Intel ICH AC97 with ADI AD1881A codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel e100 || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->PCG-FX105 FX105K PCG-FX108 FX108K PCG-FX109 FX109K FX200 FX203/FX203K FX205 FX205K FX209 FX209K FX220 [http://juljas.net/linux/vaiofx240/ FX240] FX250 FX270 FX290 FX301 FX302 FX340 FX370 FX390 FX403 FX503 FX950 |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | Sony VAIO VGN X505VP || Pentium M ULV and Intel 855GM || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Intel 855 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VE}} || {{N/A}} || || 2004 32bit - 0.38 inches at its thinnest point - first laptop to feature a "chiclet" keyboard resemble Chiclets gum - |- | <!--Name-->Sony Z505LE Z505JE || <!--Chipset-->P3 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->n/a || <!--Gfx-->Rage Mobility M1 AGP mach64 || <!--Audio-->no Yamaha DS-XG PCI YMF744 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 8255x based PCI e100 || <!--Wireless-->n/a || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->Panasonic Toughbook CF-18 || <!--Chipset-->Core || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|gma for i915}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 SigmaTel}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|usb2 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL 8139C}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel swap for atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Deadwoods' D02 test || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Panasonic Toughbook CF-29 CF-30 || <!--Chipset-->Core || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA || <!--Audio-->AC97 SigmaTel || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139C || <!--Wireless-->Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->MSI Microstar PR210 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA ATi RS690M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio through speaker / head phones but not hdmi}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8111 8169}} || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR242x AR542x aw-ge780 mini pci-e || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - ENE PCI based SD card with no bios boot option |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Advent 7106 EAA-88 || <!--Chipset-->Pentium M 1.7GHz with 915GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D and 3D tunnel 187 gearbox 67}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 Intel ICH6 with Conexant Cx20468 31 codec playback head phones only}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200BG Fn/F2 replaced with atheros mini pci in small base panel - startup errors in wireless manager}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 14" cheap rubbish sadly - fan noise through audio channel - |- | <!--Name-->Motion Computing LE1600 PC Slate || <!--Chipset-->915 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->915 || <!--Audio-->Intel AC97 SigmaTel STAC9758 9759 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 serial Wacom digitiser not usb |- | <!--Name-->Panasonic Toughbook CF-51 CF-P1 CF-T5 CF-Y2 || <!--Chipset-->945GMS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom || <!--Wireless-->Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Sony Vaio VGN UX1XN UMPC || <!--Chipset-->Core Solo U1500 1.33GHz with 945GM chipset || <!--IDE-->1.8 inch ZIF || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945GMS || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Marvell Yukon 8036 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->32bit only - 4.5 inch screen ultra mobile PC |- | Sony Vaio VGN SR29VN || Intel ICH9 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE legacy}} || {{partial|ATI HD 3400 (VESA only)}} || {{partial|HD Audio (too quiet)}} || {{yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} || {{no|Marvell 8040}} || {{no|Intel 5100}} || Icaros 1.5 || 2007 32bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Wyse XM Class DELL WYSE Xn0m LAPTOP || <!--Chipset-->AMD T-G56N 1.6 1.65Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->decased 2.5in ssd || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d only AMD 6320}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|EHCI 2.0 with NEC uPD720200 USB 3.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek rtl8169 8111E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 93xx}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 1366 x 768 14" - 2 ddr3l slots max 16gb - 19v coax barrel plug psu - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Huawei Matebook D KPL-W00 Honor Magicbook 2018 || <!--Chipset-->2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|AMD Vega 8 use VESA}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{no|3.1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 14inch 1080p - internal battery - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Avita Pura 14 AVITA-PURAR3, AVITA-PURAR5 Hong Kong tech giant Nexstgo || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R3 3200U, R5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 || <!--Gfx-->Vega 3 (R3) 7 (R5) || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit 1,920 x 1,080 14in IPS but dim 194cd/m² and 59.4% of the sRGB colour gamut - 1 ddr4l sodimm slot - keyboard issues keyboard repair swap requires removal of all - components - flexible plastic build - 3 hr battery internal - |- | <!--Name-->Avita Liber V 3200U Ryzen 5 3500U, Avita Admiror 14 R7 3700U (UK only) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - better build but same 3 hr battery - 14" 1080p screen IPS 80% sRGB gamut - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Huawei Matebook D 15 14 AMD KPR-WX9 Honor Magicbook WAQ9AHNR, Huawei NBLK-WAX9X || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 3500U 4700U 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|AMD Vega 8 use VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{Unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3.1 gen 1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel or Realtek || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 2020 - internal 42W later 56W battery - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - f6.5 recessed webcam |- | <!--Name-->Xiaomi Redmibook 16 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 7 4700U with FCH 51 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->SSD 3 || <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon RX Vega 7 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{no|3.1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8821CE wifi || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit metal 16.1 IPS 99% srgb 240 nits - 46whr battery - no webcam - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Medion AG AKOYA® E14304 (MD63780), e14303 (MSN 30031052) (MD62110), Medion Akoya E15303 (lenovo bought 2011) || <!--Chipset-->4300u or Ryzen7 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->Vega 6 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bits 14" to 15"FHD 1080p - 8gb soldered - 19v 65W round port or usb-c charge psu - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Netbook=== [[#top|...to the top]] * One of the better options if re-partitioning of the hard disk is not suitable or wanted is to go with AROS hosted i.e. run a small linux distro and host AROS on top. AROS can exist on a Windows(TM) install as well. See here for more information [https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=779.0 Linux hosted] and [ Windows hosted] with downloads here [http://aros.sourceforge.net/download.php AROS download page] * installation needs an USB optical drive or an USB pen drive (see below) * PC with CD or DVD to install to a USB pendrive for boot purposes on a netbook * SD card sometimes can [ boot] like Dell 2100, EeePC 1001P, ASUS EeePC 900, acer aspire one d150, MSI Wind U100, [http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Audio-Codec-Comparison-Table/520 Audio Codecs] ====Acer Packard Bell Netbooks==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width=100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Aspire One AOA110 (A110) (ZG5) || Intel 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA (2D and 3D) tunnel 99 and gearbox 84 score}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC6628}} || {{Yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} || {{Yes|RTL8101E - rtl8169}} || {{Yes|AR5006}} atheros 5k || AspireOS 1.8 || 2007 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel A13-045N2A 19V2.37A 45W 5.5x1.7mm - |- | Aspire One AOA150 (A150) (ZG5) || Intel 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|ide mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 2D and accelerated 3D with tunnel 99 and gearbox 84.1 result}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC6628}} || {{Yes|uhci and ehci}} || {{Yes|RTL8101E - rtl8169}} || {{Yes|AR5006}} atheros 5k || AspireOS 1.8 || 2007 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel - |- | Aspire One AOD150 D150 (Compal LA-4781P), AOD110 D110 (ssd) || Intel 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|ide legacy}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{Yes|HDAudio with alc272}}] || {{Yes|USB}} || {{No|Atheros AR8121 AR8113 AR8114 l1e}} || {{Maybe|AR5007EG AR5BXB63 works but Broadcom BCM4312 has no support}} || Icaros Desktop 1.3 || 2008 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel - |- | Aspire One AOD250 D250 emachines em250 || 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|ide legacy}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{Yes|alc272 HD Audio}} || {{Yes}} || {{No|AR8132 (L1c)}} || {{No|BCM4312 or Atheros AR5B95}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2009 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire AO532H (Compal LA-5651p) 533H Pineview || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio playback}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|AR8132 (L1c)}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k}} || [http://www.amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=5968 Tested AspireOS June 2011] || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->emachines eM350 NAV51 || <!--Chipset--> with N450 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 3150 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2 || <!--Comments-->Single core 64bit - 160GB HDD 1GB RAM 10.1" LED backlit screen and Webcam - 3 cell li-ion battery for 3 hours usage - |- | <!--Name-->emachines eM355 || <!--Chipset--> with N455 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->64bit support possible - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One 533 || <!--Chipset-->N455 with NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D 0x8086 0xa011}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| ALC272 codec ich7}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8152 v1.1 1c}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4313}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 and AROS One 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - f2 setup - 10.1inch 1024 x 768 - |- | Aspire One AOD255 AOD255e AOD260 AOHAPPY (Compal LA-6221P) || N570 and Nm10 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|SATA}} || {{Maybe|Intel GMA 3150}} || Audio || USB || {{No|Atheros AR8152 V1.1 (1lc)}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313}} || || a little support |- | Aspire One 522 AO522 (Compal LA-7072p) || 1GHz dual C-50 C50 or C-60 C60 + Hudson M1 || {{N/A}} || SATA || AMD 6250 (ATI 9804) or 6290 || ATI SB CX20584 HD Audio || USB || Atheros 8152 v2.0 l1c || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313 or Atheros ath9k}} || || |- | <!--Name-->AAOD270 Aspire One D270 || <!--Chipset-->N2600 Cedarview || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D on Intel GMA 3650}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8169 RTL8101E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4313 but swap for Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit atom - ddr2 so-dimm 2gb max - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One AO532G (Compal LA-6091p) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One D257 (Quanta ZE6) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire One 722 AO722 P1VE6 || <!--Chipset-->AMD C-60 C60 with SB900 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe| use VESA Ati 6290}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec but no Wrestler HDMI output}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros AR8152 v2.0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9485}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One AO721 (Wistron SJV10-NL) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->AO751 AO751H (Quanta ZA3) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot .S || <!--Chipset-->N280 + || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|legacy}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA950 (2D)}}|| <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC272X || <!--USB--> USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Atheros l1e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros 9k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot .SE || <!--Chipset-->N450 + || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA950 (2D) || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC|| <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot .S2 NAV50 || <!--Chipset-->N455 NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel X3150 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC269 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Atheros || <!--Wireless-->Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot M/A || <!--Chipset-->1.2GHz Athlon L110 + RS690E || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy mode? || <!--Gfx-->AMD ATI Radeon Xpress X1270 (VESA only) || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ATI SBx00 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Asus Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Models eeePC] 700 701 2G 4G 8G Surf || Intel 910GML + ICH7 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 900 2D and 3D tunnel 68 gearbox 43 on 701 800x480}} || {{Yes|ALC662 HD Audio}} || {{Yes|UHCI and EHCI}} || {{No|Atheros L2}} || {{Yes| }} AR5007EG (AR2425) - [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=32391&forum=28&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#583583 works] || NB 2013 and 2.1.1 (best) and 2.1.2 || 2007 32bit - power supplies fail due to bad caps issue psu Power Charger 9.5V 2.5A 24W Charger 4.8*1.7MM - |- | [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Models eeePC] 701SD || Intel 910GML + ICH7 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Maybe|Intel GMA 900 (2D)}} || {{Yes|ALC662 HD Audio}} || {{Yes|UHCI and EHCI}} || {{No|Atheros L2}} || {{No|RTL8187SE swap with Atheros 5k}} || AspireOS 1.7 || 2007 32bit - boot issues but does boot with ATA=32bit,nopoll or ATA=nodma,nopoll |- | [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Models eeePC] 900 || Intel 910GML + ICH7 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Maybe|Intel GMA 900 (2D, 3D in some models)}} || {{Yes|ALC662 HD Audio]}} || {{Yes|UHCI and EHCI}} || {{No|Atheros L2}} || {{Maybe|depends on chipset}} AR5007EG (AR2425) - [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=32391&forum=28&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#583583 works] but not RaLink || AspireOS 1.7 || 2008 32bit - boot issues but does boot with ATA=32bit,nopoll or ATA=nodma,nopoll. 900's may need BIOS upgrade to boot usb optical drives. 3D available in some and not all model revisions - |- | eeePC 900A || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (3D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC269}} || {{Yes|USB2.0}} || {{No|Atheros L1e [1969 1026]}} || {{Yes|Atheros 5k AR242x}} || Nightly Build 2012 05-25 || 2009 32bit |- | eeePC 901 1000 || 945GM || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{Yes|ALC269 HD Audio}} || {{Yes|USB}} || {{No|Atheros L1E (AR8121 AR8113 AR8114)}} || {{No|RaLink Device 2860 swap with Atheros 5k}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2009 32bit |- | eeePC Seashell 1000HA 1000HE 1008 1005HA || N280 + Intel GMA950 || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{Yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC269}} || {{Yes|USB}} || {{Maybe|Realtek but not Atheros AR8132 (L1c)}} || {{No|Atheros AR9285 swap with Atheros 5k}} || Aspire OS 1.6 || 2010 32bit |- | <!--Name-->eeePC 1001ha || <!--Chipset-->GMA945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 950 (2D) || <!--Audio-->ALC269 HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Attansic Atheros AR8132 l1c}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RaLink RT3090 swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2010 32bit |- | eeePC 1001P T101MT 1005PX 1005PE 1015PE Pineview 1001PXD || NM10 and N450 N455 CPU || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio}} || {{Yes|USB 2.0}} || {{No|Atheros AR8132 (l1c)}} || {{No|Atheros AR928x 802.11n}} || Icaros 1.3.3 || 2011 64bit |- | EeePC 1015B 1215B || single C-30 C30 or dual C-50 C50 + Hudson M1 || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{partial|AMD 6250 (VESA only)}} || ATI SBx00 HD Audio || USB || {{No|AR8152 v2.0 atl1c}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313 [14e4 4727]}} || || 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Flare X101CH Cedarview || <!--Chipset-->N2600 + N10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 6300 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros l1c 2.0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Flare 1025CE 1225CE || <!--Chipset-->N2800 + N10 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{dunno|Intel GMA 3600}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros l1c 2.0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Dell Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Inspiron 910 Mini 9 PP39S Vostro A90 || GMA945 || {{Maybe|STEC 8G 16G 32G IDE PATA Parallel ATA miniPCIE SSD 50MM / 70MM very slow}} || {{N/A| }} || {{yes|Intel GMA 2D and 3D opengl1}} || {{yes|ALC268 HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB2 boots and works}} || {{yes|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8102E}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4310 and 4312 swap with atheros 5k bx32}} || ICAROS 1.3 but Icaros 2.3 (pci issues), AROS One 2.6 and Tiny AROS (digiclock startup) mouse cursor vanishes || 2009 32bit - 9inch 1024x600 screen - 1 ddr2 sodimm slot max 2gig - 19v 1.58a - 0 boot disk select - cr2032 battery under laptop base cover, while mem 2GB max under base flap - |- | <!--Name-->Mini 10 1010 PP19S || <!--Chipset-->Atom Z520 Z530 Intel US15W Poulsbo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel GMA 500 (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio ALC269 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 RTL8102E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or BCM4312}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - 10.10 inch 16:9, 1366 x 768 glossy - 28whr or 56wHr battery options - |- | [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Dell%20Mini%2010v%20(Inspiron%201011) Mini 10v 1011] [http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/InspironMini10v ] || Intel 950 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|ide legacy mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || HD Audio || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|RTL8102E 8103E}} || {{no|Dell 1397 Wireless}} || || |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron Mini 1018 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode }} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D, no VGA output)}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio head phones only - speaker and micro phone do not work}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|RTL8188CE or AR928X}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.5.1 || <!--Comments--> |- | Latitude 2100 || Intel Atom N270 N280 1.60Ghz GMA 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{Yes|set to IDE in bios as ahci not working || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D and 3D with tunnel 98 and gearbox 84)}} || {{yes|HD Audio with ALC272 codec}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM5764M}} || {{No|Intel 5100 or BCM4322 DW 1510 half height mini pcie use small Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->AspireOS 1.8, Icaros 2.1.1 and AROS One USB 2.4 || 2009 32bit ddr2 sodimm max 2G - [https://sites.google.com/site/arosaspireone/about-aspire-one Webcam and card reader not working] lcd cable over hinge an issue - f12 bios and boot - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude 2110 2120 || <!--Chipset-->N470 1.83Ghz, N455 1.6Ghz, N550 1.5Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|ATA mode in bios not ahci}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 3150 2D only}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with ALC269 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| swap for Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - ddr2 sodimm |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====HP Compaq Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | HP Mini 2133 || VIA C7-M P4M900 / 8237 VX700 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{maybe|VIA Chrome 9 HC (VESA only)}} || VT1708/A HD Audio || USB || {{no|Broadcom Corp NetXtreme BCM5788}} || {{no|Broadcom Corp BCM4312}} || || |- | HP mini 1000 Mi 2140 ks145ut || N270 + 945GM || {{N/A}} || SATA || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D and opengl1 3d)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio (playback tested)}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{no|Broadcom Corp BCM4312 hard blocked}} || || 2011 32Bit - unable to change wifi card |- | <!--Name-->HP Mini 700 702 || <!--Chipset-->N270 + 945GSE || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio IDT 92HD75B (111d:7608, only playback tested)}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom hard locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | Compaq HP Mini 110 110-3112sa || 945GM Express || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{yes|HD Audio IDT STAC 92xx}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{no|Atheros}} || {{no|Broadcom hard blocked Fn+F12}} || || 2011 32bit - unable to change wifi |- | HP Mini 200 210 || 945GM NM10 Express || {{N/A}} || SATA || Intel GMA 950 || HD Audio || USB || RTL8101E RTL8102E || {{no|Broadcom BCM4312 hard locked}} || || |- | HP Mini 311 DM1 (Quanta FP7) || N280 + ION LE || {{N/A}} || SATA || nVidia Geforce ION || HD Audio || USB || eth || {{No|hard locked}} || || 2009 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Wireless--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |} ====Lenovo Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | IdeaPad S9 S9e(3G) S10 S10e(3G) || 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{no|ALC269 or SigmaTel HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Broadcom NetLink BCM5906M}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4312 hard blocked}} || || little support |- | IdeaPad S12 || N270 + Nvidia ION LE MCP79 || {{N/A}} || SATA || nVidia C79 ION [Quadro FX 470M] || ALC269 HD Audio || USB || Broadcom || Intel hard blocked || || Does not boot - cause unknown |- | S10-2 || 945GME and N280 CPU || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{no|ALC269 HD Audio}} || {{yes}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4312 hard blocked}} || Icaros 1.3 || |- | S10-3 || NM410 and N450 CPU || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || {{no|HD Audio ALC269}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|Atheros 9285 or Broadcom BCM4312 hard blocked}} || Icaros 1.3 || |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad 100S || <!--Chipset-->Atom Z36xxx Z37xxx Series SoC || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel || <!--Audio-->Intel SST Audio Device (WDM) || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8723BS hard blocked || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Samsung Netbooks==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | [http://www.amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=616910&topic_id=33755&forum=28#616910 NC10] || 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{partial|SigmaTel HD Audio (playback only)}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{maybe|rtl8169 works but not Marvell 88E8040 sky2}} || {{yes|AR5007EG}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2009 32bit - Nano silver on keyboard and lcd ribbon cable over hinge issues |- | [http://www.sammywiki.com/wiki/Samsung_NC20 NC20] || VIA VX800 || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{maybe|VIA Chrome9 (VESA only)}} || ALC272 GR (VT1708A) HD Audio || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{yes|Atheros AR5001}} || || 2009 32bit - little support |- | N110 N120 || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{yes|ALC272 HD Audio or ALC6628}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{no|Realtek rtl8187}} || || 2009 32bit - some support - Namuga 1.3M Webcam none |- | N130 || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{yes|SATA in IDE mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 2D and opengl 1.x 99.5 tunnel 99 gearbox}} || {{yes|Intel HD with ALC272 ALC269 codec playback}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|RTL 8169.device - 8101e 8102e}} || {{no|rtl 8192se rtl8187 too small an area to swap for atheros 5k}} || || 2009 32bit - 10.x inch 1024 x 600 - Namuga 1.3M Webcam - front slide power on and f2 setup bios - keyboard 17.7mm Pitch is made with Silver Nano (Anti-Bacterial) tech - small touchpad - 1 ddr2 2rx16 sodimm slot 2G max - 44Wh |- | <!--Name-->Go NP-N310 || <!--Chipset-->N270 + 945GME || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio ALC6628}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|Atheros5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2010 32bit - N280 version changed specs |- | N510 || N270 euro N280 uk + ION MCP79 || {{N/A}} || SATA || nVidia C79 ION [Quadro FX 470M] || HD Audio || USB || Marvell 88E8040 || Realtek 8192E || || Does not boot - cause unknown |- | <!--Name-->NC110 Axx || <!--Chipset-->NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Sata || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC269 codec A9M22Q2 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4313 or Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - |- | NF210 Pineview || n455 or n550 + N10 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{maybe|Intel GMA 3150 (needs retesting, VESA works)}} || {{yes|HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || Wireless || || 2011 64bit - some support |- | NP N145 Plus || n450 + NM10 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D, no VGA output)}} || {{yes|Realtek HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{no|Atheros AR9285}} || || 2010 some support but often the trackpad does not work |- | <!--Name-->NS310 NP-NS310-A03UK || <!--Chipset-->N570 with NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use Vesa 2d }} || <!--Audio-->{{yes| ich7}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 realtek 810xe }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|bcm4313 }} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit Atom N570 or 1.5 GHz Intel Atom N550 dual core processor, 1 DDR3 sodimm slot memory, a 250GB hard drive, and a 10.1 inch, 1024 x 600 pixel 10.1" W7St - 2300mAh short life - |- | <!--Name-->[https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Samsung_N150 N150] NB30 || <!--Chipset-->MN10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8040}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285 or Realtek 8192E}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->a little support |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.kruedewagen.de/wiki/index.php/Samsung_N220 N210 N220] N230 || <!--Chipset-->N450 + NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC269 || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->a little |- | <!--Name-->NC110 Pxx Cedarview || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{dunno|Intel GMA 3600}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6000g}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Toshiba Netbooks==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->NB100 || <!--Chipset-->945GM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|legacy}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC262 HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|AR5001}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 32bit - some support |- | <!--Name-->Mini NB200 series NB205 || <!--Chipset-->N280 + GSE945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|IDE legacy mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->ALC272 HD Audio || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2009 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->Mini 300 series NB305 || <!--Chipset-->N455 with NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 3150 (2D) || <!--Audio-->ALC272 HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->{{no|AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Mini 500 series NB505 NB520 NB550-10v || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 3150 (2D) || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8176 RTL 8188CE || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit - |- | [http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Toshiba-NB550D-AMD-Fusion-Netbook.46551.0.html Mini NB550D 10G] 108 (c30) 109 (c50) || C-50 + M1 || {{N/A}} || SATA || AMD 6250 (VESA only) || HD Audio || USB || Realtek 8111e rtl8169 || Atheros 9k || || 2011 64bit Realtek SD card reader |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Misc Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="30%" |Comments |- | Cammy's A1600 || GME945 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{yes|Intel GMA950 (2D)}} || {{yes|HD Audio playback}} || {{yes}} || {{no|JMC 250/260}} || Wireless || Icaros 1.2.4 || |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Mini Ui 3520 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 945 || <!--ACPI--> || <!--SATA-->{{yes}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->ALC269 HD Audio || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|AR5001}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->good |- | Guillemot Hercules eCafe EC-900 H60G-IA], Mitac MiStation and Pioneer Computers Dreambook Light U11 IL1 || Intel 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{yes|Intel GMA950 (2D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio (playback only)}} || {{yes|uhci and ehci}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|RAlink RT2860}} || || Slowly gaining support |- | <!--Name-->Hannspree Hannsnote SN10E2 24 48 || <!--Chipset-->N450 + NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->IDE legacy mode || <!--Gfx-->Pineview Intel (2D) || <!--Audio-->ALC HD Audio || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Atheros l1c || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9285 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion--> |- | MSI Wind U90/U100 || GME945 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{partial|HD Audio ALC888s (playback only?)}} || {{yes|uhci 1.1 and ehci 2.0}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|RaLink RT2860 RT2700E or rtl8187se (u100x)}} || Icaros 1.3 || |- | Advent 4211 || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || Intel GMA950 (2D) || ALC HD Audio || USB || rtl8169 || {{no|Intel 3945 ABG}} || || MSI U100 clone |- | <!--Name-->Hannspree Hannsnote SN10E1 || <!--Chipset-->N270 + GMA945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->ALC HD Audio || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E RTL8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|RaLink RT2860}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->MSI U100 clone |- | <!--Name--> Vaio VGN-P11Z | <!--Chipset--> | <!--IDE--> {{dunno}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{Partial|Intel (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Marvell}} | <!--Wireless--> {{no|Atheros AR928X}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 2.0.3 | <!--Comments--> Rarely boots! |- | <!--Name-->Sony VPC-W11S1E | <!--Chipset-->N280 with 945GSE | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA950 - hdmi}} | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with realtek codec | <!--USB-->3 USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8132}} | <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285 swap with 5k}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit - 10.1" 1366 x 768 glossy - 3hr battery life - |- | <!--Name-->Archos 10 Netbook || <!--Chipset-->Atom with ICH7 NM10 945GSE || <!--IDE-->{{No }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC662 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI Wind U135 DX MS-N014 || <!--Chipset-->Intel N455 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D only accelerated}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ALC662 rev 1}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|RTL}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR 9K}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->needs noacpi notls added to grub boot line to start up |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Desktop Systems=== [[#top|...to the top]] Most Intel Atom and equivalent AMD Fusion CPUs / APUs are faster than Intel P3s but still some way short of P4 or Dual Core performance. {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" | <!--OK-->{{Yes|'''Works well'''}} || <!--May work-->{{Maybe|'''Works a little'''}} || <!--Not working-->{{No|'''Does not work'''}} || <!--Not applicable-->{{N/A|'''N/A not applicable'''}} |- |} ====Acer==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.acer.com/ac/en/ID/content/support-product/486;-; Veriton X270 VTX270] Intel Core 2 Duo ED7400C or Pentium dual-core UD7600C with 630i | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d Nvidia 7100 VGA and HDMI connections}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe| with realtek codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|4 rear and 5 front}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe| nForce}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 dvd | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit capable but would not fully boot, DHCP address timeout too short and failed often. Put in a third party NIC, worked - 1 PCI Express x16 slot and a free PCI x1 slot - internal thin long psu with 12pin - |- | <!--Name--> Imedia S1710 with Intel Dual Core E5200 | <!--IDE--> {{Yes|SATA/AHCI}} | <!--SATA--> {{Maybe|Native IDE}} | <!--Gfx--> {{Yes|Nvidia nForce 7100}} | <!--Audio--> {{Yes|Nvidia MCP73}} | <!--USB--> {{Yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{No|NVIDIA MCP73 Ethernet}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 14-09-2023, AROS One 2.3 | <!--Comments--> 2009 64-bit - Boot over USB not working on front - 2 DDR2 dual channel max 8GB - DEL for entering Bios - F12 for boot menu - Bus weird, could be reason for Ethernet issue |- | <!--Name-->Acer Revo AR1600, R1600 AR3600, R3600 Packard Bell iMax Mini, ACER Veriton N260G N270G slim nettop subcompact | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Native IDE mode, '''when it works''' boots}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Nvidia ION GeForce 9300M - nouveau 3d - '''when it boots''' 400 fps in shell'ed gearbox, 278 in tunnel, 42 in teapot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with alc662 codec but nothing from HDMI audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Nvidia USB boot usb2 stick issues and slower with usb3 drives}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|MCP79 nForce}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 Intel Atom 230 N280 - 20cm/8" high 1 ltr noisy fan - very often boot stuck around ehciInit - DEL setup F12 boot options - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4GB - 19v special barrel size 5.5mm/1.7mm psu - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4GB - atheros 5k AR5BXB63 wifi - |- | <!--Name-->Revo AR3610 R3610 3610 Atom 330 nettop subcompact dual core | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Native IDE mode, '''when it works''' boots}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Nvidia ION GeForce 9400M LE MCP79MX - nouveau 3d - '''when it boots''' 400 fps in shell'ed gearbox, 278 in tunnel, 42 in teapot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with Realtek alc662 rev1 alc662-hd later ALC885 codec but nothing from HDMI audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Nvidia USB with 1% chance boot with usb2 sticks, more issues with usb3 drives}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|RTL 8211CL MCP79 nForce}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 1.5, 1.6 and 2.4 usb | <!--Comments-->2010 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 20cm/8" high 1 ltr noisy fan - boot often stuck around ehciInit, SATA, etc try ATA=off, non usb hub keyboard, - DEL bios setup, F12 BBS POPUP/drive boot - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4GB - 19v barrel psu with smaller inner pin size 5.5mm/1.7mm - replace wifi RT3090 ver c (linux) with atheros 5k - |- | <!--Name-->REVO AR3700 R3700 3700 Atom D525 dual core - ACER Veriton N282G *one long beep followed by two short, bios damaged *looping one long two short, a video card fault *two short beeps... CMOS damaged *got one long and one short beep... board error? | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE ready in Bios}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia ION2 GT218 ION vga fine '''but''' hdmi fussy over display used - nouveau 2d & 3d gearbox 404 tunnel 292 teapot 48}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDA Intel with Realtek ALC662 rev1 codec, head phones only but nothing from NVidia HDMI}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|Intel® NM10 Express (NM10 is basically an ICH7 with a die shrink and IDE removed) USB boots usb, installs usb, accesses ok}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169 8111g}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS one USB 1.5 and 1.6 | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 20cm/8" high 1 ltr noisy fan - early 2 ddr2 sodimm slots but later 2 ddr3 sodimm slots 1Rx8 max 4GB - 19v barrel psu thinner pin - replace wifi RT3090 ver d with atheros 5k mini pci-e - ACPI Suspend Mode = S1, S3 (STR), S4 - Power on PCIe * Known Acer issue, Boot into bios, set bios to UEFI and reboot, set bios back to defaults and reboot, blank display, repair with reflash of 8 pin Winbond W25Q socketed bios chip with ch341a using 2011/09/19 P01.B0L, 2011/05/09 P01.A4, 2011/05/03 P01.A3L, 2010/12/27 P01.A2L, 2010/12/27 P01.A2 amiboot.rom - |- | <!--Name-->Revo 70 (RL70) with or without dvdrw | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->6320 or 6310 | <!--Audio-->HD audio ALC662-VCO-GR codec | <!--USB-->USB2, 1.1 Hudson D1 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD E450 1.65GHz - 19v 65w barrel psu thinner inner pin - 2 DDR3L single channel max 4GB - replace wifi RT3090 ver d with atheros 5k mini pci-e - 1lr or 1.5 ltr dvdrw case 209.89 mm, (D) 209.89 mm, (H) 35.35 mm - del enter bios - |- |} ====Asus==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->EEEbox B202 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA950 | <!--Audio-->Intel Azalia HDaudio with Realtek ALC662 or ALC888-GR CODEC | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 or JM250 | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros | <!--Comments-->internal 3 types of wifi chipset not supported |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Dell==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name--> Precision 340 | <!--IDE--> {{yes}} | <!--SATA--> {{n/a}} | <!--Gfx--> {{n/a}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|Intel AC97}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 1.1 (UHCI)}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|3Com}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Dimension 2400 | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 82845GL Brookdale G/GE (VESA 640x480 by 16)}} | <!--Audio-->{{Unk|AC97 with ADI codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|UHCI EHCI}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom 440x 4401}} | <!--Test Distro-->[http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=832495 Icaros 1.4] | <!--Comments-->Graphics chipset is capable of higher resolution. |- | <!--Name-->Dimension 4600 | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{dunno}} | <!--Gfx-->{{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 (use rear black port)}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|UHCI/EHCI}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Intel PRO/100}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5.2 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 170L | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|Intel AC97}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|Intel PRO/100}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex GX260 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|Intel AC97}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Intel PRO/1000}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | Optiplex GX270 | {{yes|Working}} | {{partial|IDE mode}} | {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | {{yes|Intel AC97}} | {{yes|USB 2.0}} | {{no|Intel PRO/1000}} | Icaros 1.5.2 | <!--Comments--> |- | Optiplex GX280 | {{yes|Working}} | {{partial|IDE mode}} | {{maybe|Intel GMA (only VESA tested)}} | {{yes|Intel AC97}} | {{yes|USB 2.0}} | {{no|Broadcom}} | Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex GX520 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{yes|Intel GMA}} | <!--Audio--> {{partial|Intel AC97 (no line-out)}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 745 | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel GMA (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{partial|HD Audio (no volume control)}} | <!--USB--> {{partial|Only keyboard mouse (legacy mode)}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 755 | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel GMA (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Intel Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.5.1 | <!--Comments--> Around 25 second delay in booting from USB |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 990 | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|non-RAID mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel HD (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Intel Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 360 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|ordinary boot gives VGA mode only - VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|HD Audio (Analog Devices ID 194a)}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->Aspire Xenon | <!--Comments-->poor support |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse Vx0 (V90 V30), Vx0L (V10L V90L), Vx0LE (V30LE V90LE) from VIA C7 800GHz to Eden 1.2GHz | <!--IDE-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d for S3 UniChrome Pro}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 VIA VT8233A with ?? codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 back and 1 front USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|early models work but later VT6102-3 do not}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.2 | <!--Comments-->2006 to 2009 32bit - 12V 4A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm - 1 sodimm DDR 333MHz SO-DIMM later DDR2 - early V90s do seem to have a reliability problem - |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.poppedinmyhead.com/2021/01/wyse-cx0-thin-client-notes-experiences.html Dell Wyse Cx0] C00LE, C10LE, C30LE, C50LE, C90LE, C90LE7, C90LEW VIA C7 Eden 1GHz | <!--IDE-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d VX855 VX875 Chrome 9}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|some VIA VT8237A VT8251 HDA with ?? codec work}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 outside 2 inside USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|VT6120 VT6121 VT6122 Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2010 to 2013 32bit - [https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=815.0 boots and works] - 12V 2.5A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm - 1 sodimm ddr2 - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Dell RxxL Rx0L thin client *R00L Cloud PC of Wyse WSM *R10L Wyse Thin OS *R50L Suse Linux Enterprise *R90L Win XP Embedded *R90LW Win Embedded Standard 2009 *R90L7 Win Embedded Standard 7 | <!--IDE-->128Mb IDE or 1GB | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|SATA Hyperdisk}} | <!--Gfx-->AMD 690E RS690M Radeon Xpress 1200 1250 1270 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 usb2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit AMD Sempron™ 210U SMG210UOAX3DVE 1.5GHz SB600, up to 4GB single slot 240-pin DDR2 DIMM, 19v barrel psu, DEL key bios - Late 2012 2 data sockets added but only CN18 be used with two white sockets (CN13 & CN15) can used to power the SATA device "4-pin Micro JST 1.25mm |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 390 sff small form factor - mt mini tower desktop - dt full desktop | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|1 pci-e}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|realtek}} | <!--Test Distro-->aros one 1.6 usb | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit dual i3 2xxx - kettle iec plug psu cable - add nvidia gf218 gfx - error code 3 mobo or cpu - |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 3010 sff small form factor | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|1 pci-e}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom 57XX}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit dual i3 3xxx - kettle iec plug psu cable - |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 7010 sff small form factor | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|1 pci-e}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom or Intel 825xx}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit dual i3 3xxx Q77 - kettle iec plug psu cable - add pci-e ethernet and nvidia gf218 gfx - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 5010 thin client ThinOS D class (D10D D00D D00DX, Dx0D), PCoIP (D10DP) or D90D7, 5040 *username: Administrator, admin, [blank] *password: Fireport, DellCCCvdi, rappot, Wyse#123, Administrator, administrator, r@p8p0r+ | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE mode may need 30cm ext cable as small area for half-slim sata ssd - decased new ssd??}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d 1400x1050 HD6250E IGP by using DVI to hdmi cable and 1 display port, no hdmi port}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD 6.34 audio chipset detected but codec alc269 working from one case speaker - none if v6.29 used}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|most 5010 have 4 USB 2.0 but D90Q7 has 2 USB3 instead}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8168 8169 - rev 1.?? 8111? - rev 1.91 8111E}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit slow AMD G-T44R 1.2Ghz later G-T48E 1.4Ghz Dual Bobcat Brazos BGA413 - Del for BIOS - p key to select boot with noacpi - single DDR3 sodimm slot max 4Gb, (8Gb hynix 2rx8 ddr3l)? (remove small board to upgrade) - passive no fan - 15cm/6" small 1ltr case and lack of expansion options - PA16 19v barrel psu Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 7010 DTS thin client (Z class Zx0D) *2011 Zx0 Z90D7 2GF/2GR *2013 Z10D *2014 Z50D 2GF/2GR *2012 Cisco VXC 6000 CVXC-6215-K9 white | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|Bios set Sata mode to IDE mode and grub boot add 'noacpi' for half slim sata2 ssd or/with 50cm sata ext cable}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d HD6310 6320 Terascale 2 through DVI and DP 1.1a - no 3d support r600 and no hdmi port}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio 6.34 detected but ALC269VB codec works on the one case speaker only}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|2.0 works but NEC 720200 3.0 not detected but sometimes works like 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111e 8111F}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 and Aros One 1.5, 1.9 and 2.3 usb | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 slow cores AMD G-t52R 1.5GHz later G-T56N 1.65 GHz Dual with A50M FCH - 20cm/8" high 1.5ltr larger fanless black plastic case with metal ventilated box inside - 2 desktop DIMM slots max 16GB - miniPCIe CN14 no msata ssd support in bios - PA-16 19v external psu Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm - 2 40cm SMA female WiFi Antenna to IPEX IPX u.fl Ufl Cable pigtail needed - does not like uefi boot devices - |- | <!--Name-->Wyse 7020 Thin Client * 2013 Quad-core AMD GX-420CA 2.0 GHz (25W) - * 2018 Zx0Q Quad-core AMD GX-415GA 1.5 GHz (15W) with Quad display 3dp and 1dvi | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 sata port | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d only for AMD Radeon HD8400E radeonsi (dual display) or AMD Radeon HD 8330E IGP with AMD Radeon E6240 Seymour E6460 (quad display), no hdmi ports}} | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 x USB2.0 works but 2 USB3 issues | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 quad eKabini Jaguar cores - two SODIMM sockets layered in centre of mobo DDR3L RAM - Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm ac psu 9mm plug is too short but 14mm length is fine - 15cm/6" high smaller 1ltr case and lack of expansion options - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse Dx0Q (5020) D90Q8 NJXG4 AMD G-Series | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 sata port | <!--Gfx-->HD 8330E | <!--Audio--> with Realtek codec | <!--USB-->4 x USB2.0 works but 2 USB3 issues | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 Quad-core AMD GX-415GA 1.5 GHz - 2 layered near edge of mobo 204-pin DDR3L SODIMM (bottom one tricky to insert) - 19v Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm - passive no fan - 15cm/6" high smaller 1ltr case and lack of expansion options |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 5060 N07D thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE bios mode for sata2 port}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Vesa 2d - AMD R5E GCN2 IGP Sea Islands thru dp1 with an hdmi adapter no output thru dp2 - no hdmi dvi ports}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio with Realtek ALC231 codec head phones only}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|4 x USB2.0 works but 2 USB3 issues}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 realtek 8169 8111h}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 1.6 usb | <!--Comments-->2017 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 quad GX-424CC 19.5v external psu - CN-0Y62H1 mobo with 2 layered ddr3l 16Gb max sodimm slots at edge of mobo, bottom 0 one blocking - passive no fan so quiet - 15cm/6" high smaller 1ltr case and lack of expansion options - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Wyse 3040 (N10D) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Intel | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 4c4t Intel Cherry Trail x5 Z-8350 (1.44 GHz Quad) - two versions, one is 5V-3A, the other is 12V-2A - 2 GB DDR3L 1600 MHz, 8 GB or 16 GB eMMC flash chip, all soldered down - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Fujitsu Siemens==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="15%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Scenic [http://uk.ts.fujitsu.com/rl/servicesupport/techsupport/ProfessionalPC/Scenic/ScenicE/ScenicE.htm E600] (compact desktop) | | | {{partial|VESA only}} | {{yes|AC97}} | | {{no|Intel PRO/1000}} | {{dunno}} | Nice small, silent PC with good AROS support. |- | Scenic T i845 | {{dunno}} | {{n/a}} | {{n/a}} | {{dunno|Intel AC97}} | {{dunno|UHCI}} | {{dunno|Intel PRO/100}} | Icaros 1.5.2 | AROS does not boot |- | <!--Name-->Futro S200 S210 S220 and later S300 | <!--IDE-->{{yes| compactflash CF card max ??}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 315PRO PCI/AGP }} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 via }} | <!--USB-->{{unk|via uhci and ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|via VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74) }} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - TR5670 Rev 1.4 mother with Transmeta TM5800 cpu - pci socket - single SODIMM socket for DDR memory PC2700S max 512MB - |- | <!--Name-->Futro S400 | <!--IDE-->{{yes| but swap with compactflash CF card already with AROS installed}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS741CX }} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 SiS7018}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|sis uhci and ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|rtl8169 }} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - AMD Geode NX1500 1GHz gets hot - SiS 963L / SiS 741CX chipset - 12V 4.2A 4-pin (DP-003-R) psu - single SODIMM socket for DDR PC2700S max 1G - large case 246 x 48 x 177cms torx screws - pci socket - |- | <!--Name-->FUJITSU Futro S700 and S900 Thin Client (based on mini-ITX motherboard D3003-A12, D3003-C1 lesser variant of [https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/Futro/s900/TechNotes_V3.1_Mini-ITX_D3003-S.pdf D3003-S]) *G-T56N 1.65GHz *G-T40N 1.00GHz *G-T44R 1.20GHz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 sata data socket but mSata | <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 6320, HD 6250, HD 6290 dvi or displayport (DP runs higher) | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->{{yes|two USB2 front sockets and four on the rear}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit AMD slow atom-like and fanless - 20V 2A psu 5.5mm/2.1mm coax (S900) - mSATA 1GB-16GB - 2 DDR3L SODIMM sockets max 8GB tricky to run 1333 MHz on the Futro S900 - proprietary X2 PCI-e - 1 PCI socket but need a right-angle adaptor - |- | <!--Name-->esprimo p420 e85 desktop case | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->Intel 4600 or old Geforce in pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio realtek alc671 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - 16 pin special psu - |- | <!--Name-->esprimo E420 e85+ SFF case | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->Intel 4600 or low profile pci-e card | <!--Audio-->HDAudio realtek alc671 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - 16ish pin special psu - hd under front metal bracket, take front cover off first with 3 tabs - 3 slim pci-e slots - |- | <!--Name-->Futro S520 AMD dual 1.0Ghz codenamed "Steppe Eagle" * GX-210HA @ 1.0GHz * GX-212ZC @ 1.2GHz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->no sata - 4Gb or 16Gb flash memory soldered to the board | <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon HD 8210E (GX210HA) or AMD Radeon R1E (GX212ZC) | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111e | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - smaller than ITX 160mm x 160mm Fujitsu D3314-A11 - 19V 3.4A PSU standard 5.5mm/2.1mm coax plug - 1 ddr3 sodimm slot - |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu Futro S720 ThinClient D3313-B13 D3313-F *2014 64bit AMD GX-217GA 1.65GHz VFY:S0720P8009FR VFY:S0720P8008DE VFY:S0720P4009GB *2015 64bit AMD GX-222GC 2.20GHz VFY:S0720P702BDE VFY:S0720P702BFR all begin VFY:S0720P and end two digit country code | <!--IDE--> {{N/A|}} | <!--SATA--> {{Yes|up to 2 Sata-cable-connector with space in casing so normal SSD/HDD over Sata was running very well on AHCI and IDE-Mode and 2242 mSata}} | <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|use VESA 2D for AMD Radeon HD 8280E IGP ( islands) or later R5E IGP ( islands)}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|HDAudio ALC671 codec partially working, external audio speaker}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|4 rear USB 2.0 but not front 2 USB 3.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8169}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB 2.0 | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit supports AVX and SSE 4.1 - 1 ddr3 Sodimm slot max 8Gb - 19V-20V 2A 5.5mm/2.5mm coax - D3313-B13 stripped down Mini-ITX mobo D3313-S1/-S2/-S3 (eKabini) D3313-S4/-S5/-S6 - SATA data socket can be located under the fins of the cpu heatsink is fanless - mPCIe socket for wireless card - |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu FUTRO S920 D3313-E D3313-G *2016 AMD GX-222GC SOC 2.20GHz Dual *2017 AMD G-Series GX-415GA (1.50 GHz, Quad Core, 2 MB, AMD Radeon™ HD 8330E) *2017 AMD G-Series GX-424CC 2.40 GHz Quad | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{yes|2242 mSata and 1 Sata-cable-connector with space in casing so normal SSD/HDD over Sata possible}} | <!--Gfx--> {{yes|use VESA 2D for Radeon R5E GCN2/3 IGP}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|HDAudio ALC671 codec partially working}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|4 rear USB 2.0, front 2 USB 3.1 downgradable to 2.0 in BIOS setting}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8169}} | <!--Test Distro--> AROS One USB 2.4 | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 so dimm slot with max of 8 GB - 19v barrel psu 5.5mm 2.5mm - SATA data socket can be located under the fins of the heatsink - mPCIe a e keyed socket for wireless card - propetary X2 connector with official raizer to X1 connector - almost silent background noise, not affecting sound quality in any way |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu Thin Client Futro S5011 S7011 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->{{No|Vesa 2D for AMD Vega 3 on 2 dp 1.4}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ALC623 codec}} | <!--USB-->USB3 USB 3.2 Gen 2 front and 3 usb2 rear | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - AMD Ryzen Dual Core R1305G or R1505G 1ltr case - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - TPM 2.0 - 19v 3.42amp round coax or usb-c 20c 3.25a external psu - |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu FUTRO S9011 Thin Client VFY:S9011THU1EIN || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{No|Vesa 2D for AMD Vega 3 on 2 dp 1.4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ALC623 codec}} || <!--USB-->USB3 USB 3.2 Gen 2 front and 3 usb2 rear || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit Ryzen Embedded R1606G - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - TPM 2.0 - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ====HP Compaq==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Compaq presario 7360 | <!--IDE-->{{yes|Working}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|AC97 via}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|issues}} | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Compaq EP Series 6400/10 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{N/A}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|ISA}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 1.1}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{N/A}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Evo D510 | {{yes|Working}} | {{N/A}} | {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | {{yes|AC97}} | {{yes|Working}} | {{yes|Intel PRO/100}} | Icaros 1.5 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Compaq DX2000 MT | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel Extreme 2 (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|detects AC97 but no support for ADI AD1888 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|OHCI/EHCI }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82526EZ e1000}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.51 | <!--Comments-->boots ok but no audio |- | <!--Name-->Compaq DX 2200 | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200] (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{dunno|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|OHCI/EHCI issues }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments-->issues |- | <!--Name--> d230 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|UDMA}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{partial|Intel AC97 (speaker and headphones only, no line-out)}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.4.5 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->HP Pavilion a220n || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|VESA 1024x768 on nVidia GF4 MX with 64MB shared video ram}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ALC650 AC'97 comp.}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8201BL 10/100 LAN}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.5|| <!--Comments-->2004 32bit athlon xp 2600+ Socket 462 / Socket A - 2 dimm ddr pc2700 - |- | <!--Name-->t500 | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|FX5200 (2D; 3D with older driver)}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 ICH4 ALC658D}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|UHCI/EHCI}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8101L 8139}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2012-09-22 | <!--Comments-->2004 |- | <!--Name-->DC7700 | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 2D}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes| ICH8}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|82566DM e1000e}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2013-??-?? | <!--Comments-->2006 Some support at low cost |- | <!--Name-->HP dc 7600 CMT | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ACL 260}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO/1000 GT}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP t5000 thin client series t5500 t5510 t5515 PC538A or PC542A t5700 t5710 Transmeta Crusoe Code Morphing TM 5400 5600 800Mhz | <!--IDE-->128mb to 512MB | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->Ati Radeon 7000M | <!--Audio-->VIA with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|Issues}} | <!--Ethernet-->VIA Rhine 2 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2006 32bit - ddr max 1GB - F10 setup - all t51xx and some t55xx units will not include a SODIMM slot - |- | <!--Name-->HP t5000 thin client series CN700 *HSTNC-002L-TC t5135, t5530 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d 128Mb Via S3 1600 x 1200 32-bit colour | <!--Audio-->AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102 VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit t5135 appears identical to the t5530 except the CPU VIA Esther 400 MHz - RAM 64Mb (? max) - 8 x USB2.0 - 12V 3.33A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm |- | <!--Name-->HP t5720, t5725 HSTNC-001L-TC | <!--IDE-->{{unk| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d SiS741GX 2048 x 1536 32-bit colour | <!--Audio-->AC97 SiS SiS7012 AC'97 | <!--USB-->6 x USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102 VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 8d) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit AMD Geode NX1500 1GHz socketed - RAM 512MB or 1GB, 256MB, 512MB or 1GB - 12V psu - sis DDMA support - custom 1.13 BIOS - pci low profile - |- | <!--Name-->t5000 series VX800 HSTNC-004-TC t5145, t5540, t5545, t5630 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d VIA Chrome9 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio VIA | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|VT6120 VT6121 VT6122 Gigabit (rev 82)}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit - RAM 64Mb (? max) - 8 x USB2.0 - 12V 4.16A Coax: 5.5mm/2.1mm - |- | <!--Name-->t5730w HSTNC-003-TC t5730 | <!--IDE-->{{n/a|ATA 44pin DOM Flash}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d ATI Radeon X1250 2048 x 1536 no 3D | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{Yes|6 x USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 5707M tg3 10/100/1000}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 64bit AMD Sempron 2100+ 1GHz - 1 slot of ddr2 sodimm (Max 2GB) - 12V 4.16A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm - F10 enter bios F12 boot devices - |- | <!--Name-->HSTNC-005-TC gt7720, gt7725 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d AMD RS780G HD 3200 - 2560 x 1600 DVI-D & DVI-H | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->8 x USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5787M}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit AMD Turion Dual Core CPU 2.3GHz - 1 DDR2 200-pin SODIMM - 19V 4.16A Coax 7.4mm/5.0mm (gt7725) - |- | <!--Name-->HP t5740 Thin Client HSTNC-006-TC t5740, t5745, st5742 | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->1 port | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Intel CL40 VGA and DisplayPort connectors}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with IDT codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM57780 Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly build and Icaros | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit Atom N280 - F10 on power up to get into the BIOS screens. F12 brings up the boot options - hp 19V one with a coax connector, outer diameter 4.8mm with inner to be 1.7mm to 1.4mm - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots max 3gb due to 32bit - 1 pci-e slot completely non standard - |- | <!--Name-->t5000 series HSTNC-012-TC VIA Nano u3500 VX900 *t5550 512MB/1GB Windows CE6 R3 *t5565 1GB/1GB HP ThinPro *t5570 2GB/1GB WES 2009 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d VIA ChromotionHD 2.0 GPU Chrome9 | <!--Audio-->VIA 9170 VT1708S codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM57780 Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->32bit - 1 sodimm - 19V 3.42A supply connector standard yellow-tip coax plug 4.8mm/1.8mm "Standard HP Compaq DC Power Plug 4.8mm x 1.5mm / 1.7mm Yellow Tip Connector - |- | <!--Name-->HP t510 Via Eden X2 U4200 HSTNC-012-TC shares features with t5570e, t5565z | <!--IDE-->2G ATA Flash DOM | <!--SATA-->one | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d for Chrome9 VIA ChromotionHD 2.0 gfx}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|VIA VT8237A VT8251 HDA with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|6 USB2 }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit - one slot ddr3 sodimm max 4GB - 19V 3.42A Coax 4.8mm/1.8mm - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP T610 Thin Client and thicker PLUS version AMD G-T56N A55E | <!--IDE-->{{Maybe|}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 6320 1 dp port 1 dvi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->two USB2 on the front, two USB2 and two USB 3 ports on the rear | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM57780}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 204-pin DDR3 1600MHz SODIMMs PC3-12800 under motherboard via removable panel - 19.5V 3A Coax male 7.4mm/5.0mm + centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP T420 Thin Client *AMD Embedded G-Series GX-209JA SOC (1 GHz, 2 cores) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 8180 dvi vga | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->2 front 2 rear USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2015 64bit supports AVX or SSE 4.1 - soldered in place 2GB DDR3 - smaller than usual 19.5V 2.31A Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - usb stick internal for storage - E15 BBR - |- | <!--Name-->HP t520 TPC-W016 *AMD GX-212JC 1.2Ghz (2 core) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 m.2 mounting holes for 2242 and 2260 SSDs SATA (not NVME) | <!--Gfx-->Radeon R2E GCN2 IGP Sea Islands | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->2 USB3 front, 4 USB2 back | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 2017 64 bit supports AVX or SSE 4.1 - 1 204-pin DDR3 SODIMM - 19.5V 3.33A 7.4mm Coax with central pin |- | <!--Name-->HP t620 TPC-I004-TC and t620 PLUS (PRO wider version) TPC-I020-TC *AMD G-Series GX-217GA 2 core APU 1.65GHz *AMD GX-415GA | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->single M.2 2242 socket sata only most models, mSATA socket removed end of 2014, | <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 8280E graphics 8330E Islands GCN2 IGP - 2 dp ports no dvi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->4 front, 2 back, 2 inside | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit supports AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 DDR3L SODIMMs side by side - mSATA ssd and M.2 SSD are M1.6 screws, M2.0 screws used on most SSDs - 19.5V 3.33A Coax male 7.4mm with centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP T530 *AMD GX-215JJ (2 core) 1.5GHz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 m.2 sata ssd up to 2280 | <!--Gfx-->Radeon R2E | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->1 USB3.1, 1 usb-c front, 4 USB2 back | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2015 64 bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 1 204-pin DDR4 SODIMM - smaller 19.5V 2.31A Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP T730 Wider "Thin" Client TPC-I018-TC Pixar RX-427BB (2c4t) - no display and fans blowing full speed caused by '''disabling internal gpu in bios''' flash L43_0116.bin onto smc MX25L6473F (3.3V 8-PIN SOP (200mil) SPI 25xx) ([https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubleshooting-hardware-devices-and-electronics-theory/troubleshooting-desktop-motherboards-graphics-cards-and-pc-peripherals/bios-schematic-requests/96303-hp-t730-password-locked-bios in the rom rcvry socket under a delicate thin narrow surface flap]) with ch341a alike switchable from 5v, 3.3v to 1.8v | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{partial|Storage bios option to IDE and not AHCI to prevent constant install error messages to DH0: - add noacpi to end of grub boot line - 1 M.2 SATA slot (Key B+M) up to 2280 with T8 torx secure stub}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use VESA for non-vulkan Radeon R7 GCN 2 UVD4.2 Sea Islands with 4 dp outs '''but too easy bricking''' if swapping with 1 PCIe 3.0 x8 slot 30W slim factor low profile 8400gs gt210 nvs295 nvs310 gt1030}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDaudio 6.34 realtek alc221 codec thru case speaker only}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|'''Works''' for 4 USB2 in the back with 2 in the front but '''not''' for 2 USB3 ports on front and 1 more internal (not bootable)}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111HSH-CG set up first in Prefs/Network}} | <!--Test Distro-->boots with most AROS One 32bit USB with added noacpi added to grub boot - Latest distros can select grub boot options with Aros One 64bit USB and Aros One USB 2.8 but system seems to freeze after choice | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit supports AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 DDR3L notebook RAM sodimm stacked slots max 32GB - '''Larger''' 20cm/8" high 3.5ltr case noisy fan - TPM2 - esc/F9 boot selector F10 enter bios - 2 serial and 1 parallel old ports - Key E Wireless - PCIe slot (x16 physical, x8 electrical - 19.5V 4.36A 85w TPC-LA561 HP 7.4mm black-ring-tip power plug, red flashing power button, wrong psu or bad MotherBoard MB - |- | <!--Name-->HP t630 Thin Client TPC-I020-TC *AMD Embedded G-Series SoC GX-420GI quad core 2Ghz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|ahci.device 2 Sata M.2, sata0 up to 2280 (1tb max), sata1 2242 (64gb max), both T8 torx secure stubs}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use VESA for Radeon AMD Wani R7E with 2 displayport 1.2 sockets - no dvi / hdmi}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 6.34 VOID for controller 0x1022 0x157a and not detected ALC255 codec x10ec x0255 aka ALC3234, pins 0x17 as LFE and 0x1b as int speaker}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2 2 front and 2 rear but not 2 front USB3 and 1 inside}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169 8111H}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB 2.2 | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit supports AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 DDR4 SODIMMs side by side speed 1866Mhz limit - 19.5V 3.33A 65W TPC-BA54 Coax male 7.4mm with centre pin - can be easily bricked, might reflash bios with M40 SP149736 - 20cm/8" high 1.5ltr larger fanless case - esc f1 f9 f10 - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq Elite 7200 7300 8200 8300 SFF with kettle IEC psu cable | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE ata legacy only in BIOS}} | <!--Gfx-->i pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|8200 works}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel or Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit dual core - add pci-e rtl8169 ethernet card and pci-e gf210 nvidia low height - |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq Pro 6305 Small Form Factor SFF AMD A75 chipset (FCH 6 SATA 6 Gb/s, 4 USB 3.0) *AMD Quad A10-5800B *AMD A8-5500B *AMD Dual A6-5400B *AMD A4-5300B | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 7000 Terascale iGPU series Radeon HD 7660D, Radeon HD 7560D, Radeon HD 7540D, Radeon HD 7480D | <!--Audio-->HD ALC221 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 5761}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Elitedesk 705 G1 - SFF *AMD A10-8850B, Quad-Core A10 PRO-7850B, A10-8750B *AMD A10-7800B, A10 PRO-6800B, A8-7600B *AMD A8-8650B, A6-8550B *AMD A6-8350B, Dual A6 PRO 7400B, A4-7300B | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D with Radeon R7 or 8000}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD audio with Realtek ALC221 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom or Intel}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - T15 security torx psu with 6pin PWR 200W connector - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteDesk 705 G2, 705 G3 Mini PC USFF thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2.5in and m.2 | <!--Gfx-->Radeon R7 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5762 GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit AM4 socket with 35W TDP A10-8770E (4c), AMD PRO A6-8570E (2c), AMD Pro A6-9500E, or AMD PRO A10-9700E on AMD B300 FCH - ddr4 sodimm slots - 77 x 175 x 34mm (6.97 x 6.89 x 1.34in) 1L and about 3lbs - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteDesk 705 G4 Mini 1ltr USFF AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (4c t) or 5 2400G (4c t) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Nvme 2280 and 2.5in sata}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 thru DP1.2 port | <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio Conexant codec}} | <!--USB-->USB2 usb3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit Am4 socket - 2 sodimm 16GB max - 19.5v hp socket ext psu - |- | <!--Name-->Elitedesk 705 G4 35w, Elitedesk 705 G4 65w, HP Prodesk 405 G4 35W USFF - AMD Athlon PRO 200GE (2c 4t), 2200GE (4c t) or 2400GE (4c t) on AMD B350 FCH, Elitedesk 705 G5 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Nvme 2280 and older models 2.5in sata}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 3, 8 or 11 with 2 dp1.2 ports | <!--Audio-->HD audio with Conexant CX20632 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111EPH 1Gbe or Realtek RTL8111F | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - realtek wifi 8821 or 8822 - up to 1 ddr4 dimm slots - 12v up to 180w ac - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitedesk 806 G6, Prodesk 405 G6 3400GE Ryzen 5 PRO 3350GE (4c 8t), Ryzen 3 PRO 3200GE 3150GE (4c 4t), AMD Athlon Silver PRO 3125GE (2c 4t) on AMD PRO 565 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2x NVMe or 1x SATA + 1x NVMe, but not all three drives at the same time without serious modding of hd caddie || <!--Gfx-->Vega with DP1.4 port || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC3205 codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->HP t540 1ddr4 slot, t640 2 DDR4 SDRAM sodimm SO-DIMM 260-pin non-ECC max 32gb thin client USFF | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 NVM Express (NVMe) 2230 or 2280 | <!--Gfx-->Vega 3 VGA, DisplayPort | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->2 USB3 gen1 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek Realtek RTL8111HSH or RTL8111E PH-CG | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit ryzen r1000 series Ryzen Embedded R1305G 1.5 GHz, R1505G dual (2c 4t) 2.0Ghz or R1606G ?.?Ghz (2c4t) - Realtek RTL8852AE wifi - 45W psu Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP t740 SFF Thin Client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 M.2, one is sata and other nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 DisplayPort or + optional pci-e 30W Radeon E9173 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E PH-CG 1Gbe | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - Ryzen Embedded V1756B 3.25Ghz quad - 90W 19.5V 4.62A psu Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - sodimm DDR4 max 64Gb - slightly noisy fan - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteDesk 805 G6 Mini 4750GE (8t 16t), Prodesk 405 G6 Ryzen 5 PRO 4650GE (6c 12t) or Ryzen 3 PRO 4350GE (4c 8t) on AMD PRO 565 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2.5in carrier and 2 slots m.2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 with DP1.4 and HDMI flex io2 output options | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC3205 codec | <!--USB-->4 usb a - gen 2 10gig and gen 1 5gig ports | <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit AMD Ryzen 4000 SBC unlocked - 2 sodimm ddr4 slots - wifi6 - 90W ac - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Lenovo==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo Nettop IdeaCentre Q150 (40812HU) | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio--> realtek codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->intel 10/100 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit D510 |- | <!--Name-->M625q Tiny (1L) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->M.2 Sata | <!--Gfx-->Stoney Radeon R2, R3 or R4 and later R5 with 2 dp ports | <!--Audio-->HD audio with ALC233-VB2-CG codec 0x10EC 0x0233 | <!--USB-->{{No|3 usb3.1 Gen 1 and 3 usb2}} | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit all dual cores - e2-9000e or a4-9120e later A9-9420e - heatsink covers 70% area covers wifi - 65w or 135w lenovo rectangle ac - 1 ddr4 2666MHz slot max 8gb - tpm 2.0 - |- | <!--Name-->M715q Gen 1 AMD A6 A8 A10-9700E 9770E (2c2t) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 | <!--Gfx-->R4 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->M715q Gen 2 Ryzen 5 PRO 2400GE 4C 8T | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 | <!--Gfx-->Vega 11 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - f1 enter setup, esc device boot - fixed 1.8v ch341a needed to reflash 1.8v bios if no boot SOP8 DIP8 Winbond W25Q64, MXIC MX25U1635, MX25U6435 - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkCenter M75n nano Ryzen3 3300U | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->ThinkCentre M75q M75q-1 Tiny 1ltr TMM AMD Ryzen 5 PRO Quad 3500 Pro 3400GE (4c 8t) 11a5 soe400, 3200GE (2c 4t) zen1+ 11a4 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|NVMe 2280 1Tb max - untested 2.5inch}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 11 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio codec | <!--USB-->3 USB3 Gen 1 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 65w 20v 3.25A to 135W rectangle psu - 2 sodimm ddr4 sodimm max 32GB locked 2666MHz - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkCentre Ryzen 7 PRO Tiny 1ltr Gen 2 AMD 4000 series 4650GE (6c12t) 4750GE (8c16t) 4350G (4c8t) Zen2 - | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|NVme}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit vendor locked - 20v psu - 2 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkcenter M75q-2 Gen2 refresh | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Radeon Vega | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GigE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 5650GE (6c12t) 5750GE (8c16t) - vendor/PSB can lock your AMD CPU - f12 boot devices |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Thinkcentre M75q Tiny Gen5 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} | <!--SATA-->2 NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 780M dp1.4a or hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 usb-c | <!--Ethernet-->1GBe port | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2024 Ryzen PRO 7 8700GE - 90W yellow rectangle connector psu - 2 DDR5 sodimm slots max 128Gb - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |} ====Misc==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Impart impact Media Group IQ Box mini Digital Signage with MB896 mini itx | <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->GMA 915 gme | <!--Audio--> via audio | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - 1 ddr2 slot - pentium m 1.73GHz - |- | <!--Name-->[https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_mini/specs/mac_mini_cd_1.83-specs.html Apple A1176 Intel MacMini1,1] | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{unk|gpt/efi }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|gma950 2d and 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ICH7 [https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/186749 Sigmatel Stac 9221] [https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/msm/+/android-wear-5.1.1_r0.6/sound/pci/hda/patch_sigmatel.c codec][https://alsa-devel.alsa-project.narkive.com/Yt20W6cE/sigmatel-stac9221-mux-amp-out-0x02-microphone-not-working mic]}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2006 32bit possible 1.83 GHz Intel “Core Duo” (T2400) - swap pci-e wifi for atheros 5k AR5007EG - maybe hack with a 2,1 firmware - max 4GB Ram ddr2 sodimms - external apple psu - dvd boot only with c key - |- | <!--Name-->[https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_mini/specs/mac-mini-core-2-duo-1.83-specs.html Apple A1176 Intel Mac Mini2,1] | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{unk|gpt/efi }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|gma950 2d and 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ICH7 Sigmatel Stac 9221 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} | <!--Test Distro-->Aros One 2.0/ Icaros (latest beta) | <!--Comments-->2007 64bit - swap pci-e wifi for atheros 5k AR5007EG - hacked with a 2,1 firmware and replaced the cpu for T7600 2.33 Ghz C2D and max 4GB Ram ddr2 sodimms - external apple psu - dvd boot only via c key |- | <!--Name-->Apple iMac 5,1 "Core 2 Duo" 1.83GHz 17" T5600 MA710LL || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 with 64Mb || <!--Audio-->HDAudio idt codec || <!--USB-->3 USB2 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit - 2 ddr2 667MHz sodimm slots - 17.0" TFT widescreen 1440x900 - polycarbonate |- | <!--Name-->Apple iMac 6,1 "Core 2 Duo" 2.16 2.33 24" only T7400 T7600 aka MA456LL/A A1200 (EMC 2111) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia 7300GT with 128 MB of GDDR3 SDRAM PCI Express or GeForce 7600GT with 256Mb mini dvi, vga || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->3 USB2 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit - 2 ddr2 667MHz sodimm slots - 24.0" TFT widescreen 1920 x 1200 - polycarbonate plastic case iMacs of this generation are the most difficult iMacs to service due to their front bezel design |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA2 | <!--IDE-->flash "DiskOnModule" | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->S3 Inc ProSavage PM133 (rev 02) vga | <!--Audio-->VIA VT82C686 AC97 Audio | <!--USB-->USB | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8139 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - VIA Ezra 800MHz - 2 PC100 sodimm slots - riser board carries an ISA slot and a PCI slot - external 12V power supply.with 4 pins - |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA5 Capio One | <!--IDE-->44pin DiskOnModule | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->SiS550 vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with SiS7019 codec | <!--USB-->USB1.1 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8139 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - internal power supply with mains lead has a "clover leaf" style - 2 144-pin PC100 or PC133 SODIMM might have 24MB of RAM soldered - |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA10 *E140 model BL-XX-XX (800MHz CPU) later *E100 model BK-XX-XX (1GHz CPU) | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA VT8623 (Apollo CLE266) vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with | <!--USB-->4 USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102/VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 74) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2004/5 32bit - 12v 5.5mm/2.1mm - 2 184-pin DDR DIMM - |- | <!--Name-->VXL Itona thin client *TC3200, *TC3x41 (P3VB-VXL) TC3541 TC3641 TC3841, *TC3xx1 (6VLE-VXL0) TC3931, *TC43xx (Gigabyte C7V7VX) TC4321 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA vga | <!--Audio-->AC'97 Audio with VIA VT | <!--USB-->VIA USB | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8100B | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2005 2006 32bit VIA Samuel 2, VIA C3 Nehamiah CPU, 1 DIMM slot, internal psu, |- | <!--Name-->Neoware Capio C50, model CA15 Thin Clients] *Login Administrator Password Administrator *Login User Password User | <!--IDE-->1 flash DiskOnModule | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA VT8623 (Apollo CLE266) vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with via codec | <!--USB-->USB | <!--Ethernet-->VIA | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2006 32bit VIA Eden (Samuel II core) CPU - 1 ddr sodimm slot max 512mb - slot - internal psu clover leaf - |- | <!--Name-->[http://etoy.spritesmind.net/neowareca21.html Neoware CA21 Thin Clients] Igel 3210 (and maybe the Clientron G270) *Login Administrator Password Administrator *Login User Password User | <!--IDE-->1 flash DiskOnModule | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA CN700 vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with via codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit VIA C3 Nehemiah instead of Ezra-T - made 2 version of the CA 21, one with an Award bios and one with a Phoenix bios - 1 ddr2 sodimm slot max 1gb - VT6656 wireless - slot - internal psu iec - |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA22 (e140), part number DD-L2-GE with BCOM WinNET P680 (V4) as the Igel 4210LX (Igel 5/4) | <!--IDE-->1 VIA VT82C586A/B VT82C686/A/B VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA CN700 P4M800 Pro CE VN800 Graphics [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01) vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with codec | <!--USB-->USB2 VIA VT8237R Plus | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102/VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - VIA Esther to later C7 1GHz - 1 ddr2 sodimm slots max 512mb - +12V DC/4.16A/50W 5.5mm/2.1mm coaxial - |- | <!--Name-->10Zig RBT402, Clientron U700, | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|44 pin header very little room}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A|}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Partial|VESA dvi}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|VIA }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - very small cases with very limited expansion - 1 sodimm 2GB max - 12v 3a psu - Password Fireport |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Dell Optiplex FX170 D05U thin client, 10Zig 56xx range 5602, 5616v, 5617v, 5672v, Clientron U800, Devon IT TC5, | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|44 pin header very little room}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A|}} | <!--Gfx-->{{partial|GMA 950 dvi}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit - very small cases with very limited expansion - 1 ddr2 sodimm 2GB max - 12v 3a psu - Password Fireport - ps2 keyboard socket - |- | <!--Name-->10Zig RBT-616V or Chip PC Technologies EX-PC (model number XPD4741) | <!--IDE-->{{unk|44 pin header very little room}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A|}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 950}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|HD Audio with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|rtl8169}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit N270 on NM10 with ICH7 - very small cases with very limited expansion - 1 sodimm 2GB max - 12v 4a psu - Password Fireport |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Brix GS-A21S-RH (rev. 1.0) SFF | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|X3100}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC883-GR codec}} | <!--USB-->Intel USB | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82566DC}} | <!--Test Distro-->ICAROS 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit Intel GME965 chipset with Intel ICH8M - 2 DDR2 Dimm slots - GA-6KIEH2-RH Rev.1.x mini ITX Case 213mm(D) x 64mm(W) x 234mm(H) - custom psu - |- | <!--Name-->VXL Itona MD+24 MD27 MD54 MD64 MD76 thin client | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->VIA Chrome 9 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA VT | <!--USB-->VIA | <!--Ethernet-->VIA | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit VIA X2 U4200 - 12v-19v barrel psu - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Revo 100 RL100 AMD Athlon II X2 K325 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® ION™ 9300m || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC662 codec || <!--USB-->USB2 1 front 2 back || <!--Ethernet-->NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2010 64bit but no AVX - 4Gb DDR3 sodimm - 500 GB - 19v 3.42a 65W - dvd but later BD drive - |- | <!--Name-->Asrock ION 330 330Pro HT-BD, Foxconn NT-330i, Zotac ION F (IONITX mini itx), | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ION geforce 9400}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Nvidia USB}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Nvidia }} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit slow atom cpu - 2.5L 8" by 8" plastic case - 2 ddr2 sodimm max 4G - external 19v 65W 3.42A Plug 5.5mm X 2.5mm - little whiny fan - |- | <!--Name-->Zotac ZBOXHD-ND01 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION1 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->NVidia | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Zotac ZBOX HD-ID11 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with ALC888 codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111D | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 |- | <!--Name-->ZOTAC ZBOX Blu-ray 3D ID36 Plus | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->sata | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->2 USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->GbE | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Shuttle XS35GT || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ION || <!--Audio-->HD audio IDT92HD81 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|JMC261}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - Atom™ D510 NM10 - DDR2 |- | <!--Name-->Shuttle XS35GT V2 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ION2 || <!--Audio-->HD audio IDT92HD81 || <!--USB-->Intel || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|JMC251}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit Atom™ D525 NM10 chipset - DDR3 |- | <!--Name-->Sapphire Edge-HD || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ION2 GT218 with vga and hdmi || <!--Audio-->HDAudio realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - Atom™ D510 NM10 - DDR2 65 W AC, DC 19V~3.42A, 19.3L x 14.8w x 2.2H cm (1l), weight 530g, |- | <!--Name-->Sapphire Edge-HD2 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|nouveau ION2 GT218 with vga and hdmi 2d and 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|Intel USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit Atom™ D525 NM10 chipset - DDR3 |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.jetwaycomputer.com/JBC600C99352W.html Jetway JBC600C99352W] | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio-->{{No|C-Media CM108AH}} | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111DL | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit D525 - DDR3 - 12v psu |- | <!--Name-->Foxconn nT-A3550 A3500 AMD A45 Chipset DDR3 Nettop Barebones - White | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 slot | <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon HD6310 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 USB2 back and 2 USB3 front | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD Dual-core E350 1.6GHz CPU - 1 ddr3 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Asus EeeBox PC EB1021 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD6320M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE1 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit - AMD® Brazos E-350 SFF or E-450 with A50M - 2 ddr3l so-dimm - 40W ac - |- | <!--Name-->Xi3 Piston PC Athlon64 X2 3400e (X5A), AMD R-464L quad (X7A) Z3RO NUC | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->AMD mobility HD3650 to radeon HD 7660G | <!--Audio--> codec | <!--USB-->4 USB2 3 USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8161}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 - 2 sodimm 8GB max - 19v 3.3a round - Titan105 bios update - |- | <!--Name-->Sapphire Edge-HD3 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD6320M with vga and hdmi || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC662 codec || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE1 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD® Brazos E-450 with A45M - ddr3l so-dimm - 65W ac - Wireless is Realtek 8191SU WiFi (802.11n) or AzureWave (802.11bgn) - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Samsung Syncmaster Thin Client Display TC-W Series 24" LF24 TOWHBFM/EN TC220W LED LF22TOW HBDN/EN || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->8gb SSD || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe| VESA mode only Radeon HD 6290}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->2 USB 2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 thin Client C-50 C50 AMD® 1000 MHz and no wireless |- | <!--Name-->Advantech TPC-2140 thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 atom-like G-T56E 1.65Ghz up to SSE3, BGA413 soldered - |- | <!--Name-->CompuLab FIT-PC3 fitPC3 USFF PC AMD G-T56N || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->RADEON HD 6320 || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio ALC888 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 8111}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64 bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 12v 3a - 2x sodimm DDR3 max 4GB - wifi rtl8188ce |- | <!--Name-->10Zig 6872 thin client | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 atom-like G-T56N up to SSE3 BGA413 (FT1) soldered - DDR3l single channel - |- | <!--Name-->10ZiG 7800q thin client | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon 5E 3840 x 2160 @ 30Hz to 2560 x 1600 @ 60Hz 2 x Display Port | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->6 x USB2.0 2 x USB3.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD GX-424CC (Quad Core) 2.4GHz BGA769 (FT3b) SSE4 and AVX - 1 ddr3 sodimm - 12V 4A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm |- | <!--Name--> *Itona VXL MZE12 AMD a4-5000 thin client *VXL Itona LQ27 LQ+27 LQ44 LQ+44 LQ49 LQ+49 LQ50 LQ+50 LQ64 LQ+64 thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Ati 8330 vga hdmi dp | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 usb2 2 usb3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit quad BGA769 (FT3) soldered - 2 stacked sodimm ddr3 middle of mobo - 2 m.2 sata slots - 1 sata short cable half size space - limited 1ltr 8in case no fan - 19v hp style psu connector - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 5212 21.5" AIO Thin Client W11B | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Sata | <!--Gfx-->R3 out from DP or vga | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2015 64bit slow atom like dual core AMD G-T48E 1.4 GHz - dell type round ac needed 90W 19.5V 4.62A - 21 inch 1080p screen - |- | <!--Name-->LG 24CK560N-3A 24' All-in-One Thin Client Monitor, 27CN650N-6N 27CN650W-AC 27', 34CN650W-AC 34', | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2018 64bit AMD Prairie Falcon GX-212JJ |- | <!--Name-->CompuLab fit-PC4 fitPC4 4x 2Ghz AMD || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64 - 2x DDR4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->IGEL Hedgehog M340C UD3 thin client *2016 V1.0 AMD GX-412HC 1.2GHz-1.6GHz Radeon R3E, normal bios DEL for Bios or F12 boot selector *2018 AMD GX-424CC 2.4GHz, Radeon R5E, UEFI hit DEL and choose boot or SCU icon | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->SATA half slim version '''limited space''' with msata slot on earlier 2016 models | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Radeon R3E later R5E sea islands vulkan 1.2 with dvi dp output}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec ?? (412) and Realtek ALC662-VD0-GR (424), both case speaker}} | <!--USB-->amd usb3 boot usb2 with bios "disable usb" entry | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169 8111 (412) and (424)}} | <!--Test Distro-->Aros One x86 USB 1.5, 1.8 and 2.2 | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 20cm/8" high case - 1 DDR3L sodimm slot max 8Gb 1600MHz - external '''12V 3A''' supply with 5.5mm/2.1mm coaxial - IDE like interface under base stand is for legacy addon ports RS232 parallel etc - capacitive touch power on - case opening 3 stages, remove stand and narrow black plastic strip from the back, top cover slides off to the back and lifts off - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->IGEL UD3 M350C (UEFI issues) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->None but 8gb emmc | <!--Gfx-->Vega 3 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek ALC897 or ALC888S codec | <!--USB-->USB 3.2 and 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - AMD Ryzen™ R R1505G Dual-Core 10W TDP - 2 DDR4 sodimms slots max 16Gb - 12V 4A psu - 2x DisplayPort 1.2 no dvi or hdmi - Intel® 9260 or SparkLAN WNFT-238AX wifi - 1x rear serial Prolific PL2303 chipset - locked down components and very limited expansion options - |- | <!--Name-->IGEL UD7 H860C AMD Ryzen V1605B Thin Client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 AMD Ryzen™ Embedded V1605B 2 – 3.6 GHz (Quad-Core) - 12v 5A psu - up to 16GB RAM DDR4 - locked down components and very limited expansion options - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Brix Barebone Mini PC BSRE-1605 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 M.2 | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC269 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->2 GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit AMD Ryzen V1605B - 2 DDR4 sodimm slots |- | <!--Name-->EliteGroup LIFA Q3 Plus | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit AMD Ryzen Embedded V1000, V1605B - |- | <!--Name-->MINISFORUM Deskmini UM250 Mini PC | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit AMD Ryzen V1605B - |- | <!--Name-->Shuttle DA320 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->R3 R5 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC662 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->dual realtek 1GbE 8111H | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Opinion-->2017 64bit AMD 2200G 2400G - Robust metal 1.3-liter case - A320 chipset DDR4 - 19V 6.32A DC PSU - |- | <!--Name-->T-Bao MN25 Mini PC 2500U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Unk|Intel NVMe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA Radeon Vega 8}} | <!--Audio-->{{Unk| }} | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek PCIe 1GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Minis Forum M200 Silver Athlon M300 3300U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1 and 2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek PCIe 2.5G}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Minis Forum DeskMini UM300 3300U, UM350 DMAF5 3550H, UM370 and UM700 with 3750H | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1 and 2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek PCIe 2.5G}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit |- | <!--Name-->MinisForum X300 with AMD 3400G | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1 and 2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek PCIe 2.5G}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Beelink SER3 GTR4 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega 3 or 10 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RJ45 1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit 3200u or 3750h |- | <!--Name-->Beelink SER4 GTR5 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->cant boot from installed SSDs unless its an M.2 | <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->1 or 2 Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 4700U or 5900HX |- | <!--Name-->MSI PRO DP20Z 5M Mini PC - AMD Ryzen 5 5300G | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 2.5G LAN RTL8125}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->R3 3200G Vega 8 - R5 3400G Vega 11 - Ryzen 5 5600G Vega 7 - Athlon 3000G |- | <!--Name-->Minisforum UM450 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 2.5G LAN RTL8125}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - Ryzen 4500U - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Brix GB-BRR7-4800 (rev. 1.0) GB-BRR7-4700 (rev. 1.0) GB-BRR5-4500 (rev. 1.0) GB-BRR3-4300 (rev. 1.0) | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 2.5G LAN RTL8125 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS PN50 mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 4700U | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|3.1 gen1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|realtek 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS PN51-S1 mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 5700U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Vega thru dp or hdmi | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|3.1 gen1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|realtek 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 19v or 19.5v 90w psu round barrel - 32gb ddr4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Minis Forum Bessstar Tech EliteMini B550 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 x 2.5in and 2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{no|4 usb3.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|realtek 8125 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit AMD 4700G 5700G desktop cpu - 19v 120w round barrel - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock A300 and later X300 Mini itx with Desktop AM4 socket | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - choose your own AMD APU GE 35w based - DDR4 - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock 4x4 BOX-5800U Zen 3-based AMD Ryzen 7 5800U 15W - | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 slot gen 3 and sata | <!--Gfx-->vega | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|1 GbE and 1 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - WiFi 6E - |- | <!--Name-->Topton S500+ Gaming Mini PC - Morefine S500+ 5900HX Mini PC - Minisforum UM590 Ryzen AMD Zen3 Ryzen 9 5900HX 7 5800H 45W - | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme 1 sata | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 thru HDMI 2.0, DP 1.4, and USB type-C | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{no|usb3.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|1 realtek rtl 8111h and 1 8125 2.5GbE bg-cg}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 2 sodimm ddr4 3200MHz - |- | <!--Name-->Chuwi RzBox later Ubox | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 later to 660m vga, dp, hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->{{No|usb-c usb2}} | <!--Ethernet-->dual gigabit | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 2025 64bit amd 5800h 4800h 6600H - 90w psu - |- | <!--Name-->Beelink Mini PC SER5, Trigkey AZW S5, Asus PN52, ZHI BEN MX-JB560, | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->PCIe3 M.2 2280 nvme | <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega 6 with 1 or 2 hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->{{No|USB3.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 1GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 5500U 5560u 5600U to PRO 5600H 5800H - 19v 3.42W 65W psu - |- | <!--Name-->NIPOGI Kamrui ACEMAGICIAN AM06PRO Dual LAN Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, 5 5500U or 5600U/5625U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->M.2 and 2.5in sata | <!--Gfx-->Vega 7 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->2 GbE ports | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - plastic build - 90w usb-c power - loud at 25W setting - |- | <!--Name-->Topton FU02 Fanless Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 4700U 5600U 5800U 8 Core 16 Threads | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe and 2.5in sata | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->4 3.0 with 2 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->2 x 1G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64 - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - fanless with copper cube from cpu to metal sheet which gets warm |- | <!--Name-->Xuu XR1 Lite (5300u 4c 8t) PRO 5400U MAX 5600U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 NVMe 2242 slot | <!--Gfx-->Vega 6 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->2 3.0 | <!--Ethernet-->1G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64 quiet fan - very small case no expansions - |- | <!--Name-->MINISFORUM UM690 Venus Series | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->pcie4 nvme 2280 and 1 sata3 2.5in | <!--Gfx-->680m RNDA2 12CU with 2 hdmi | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|1 USB4 and 2 USB3.2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|2.5G LAN}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 6900hx 8C16T - 2 ddr5 sodimmm - 19v ???W - |- | <!--Name-->Beelink Mini PC GTR6 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->PCIe4 | <!--Gfx-->AMD 680M RDNA2 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->USB3.2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 2.5GbE or intel i225}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit Ryzen 9 6900HX Zen3+ and a 2gb Radeon 680m 12CU ddr5 sodimm - 19v 120w psu - |- | <!--Name-->Asus PN53, Geekom AS 6, | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->pcie gen4 nvme and ata 2.5in | <!--Gfx-->680m RNDA2 12CU with 2 hdmi and 1 dp | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|2 usb-c, 2 USB2.1 and 3 USB3.2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|1G LAN}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 6900hx 8C 16T - 2 slots ddr5 sodimmm (64Gb max) - 19v 120W - 4 retained base screws beware ribbon cable - |- | <!--Name-->Micro Computer (HK) Tech Ltd MinisForum UM773 Lite later UM750L slim, GMKtec K2 Mini PC | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe PCIe4.0 | <!--Gfx-->RDNA | <!--Audio-->HD Audio | <!--USB-->USB4 | <!--Ethernet-->2.5GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2023 2025 64bit - AMD Zen 3+ (8c 16t) Ryzen 7 7735HS, 7840HS and AMD Ryzen 9 7845HX AMD Ryzen™5 7545U (6c12t) - 19v up to 120w ac adapter - ddr5 sodimm 4800Mhz - |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.asrockind.com/en-gb/4x4 ASrock 4x4 SBC] | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->sata or nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega or 680M | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 or USB4 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 1GbE or intel 2.5GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Beelink Mini PC GTR7 SER7 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->PCIe4 nvme 2280 up to 2Tb | <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M RDNA3 GPU output on hdmi and dp | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3.2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|1 or 2 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2023 64bit AMD Phoenix APUs Zen 4 CPU Ryzen 7 7840HS or 9 7940HS (8c 16t) - 19v 5.26A 120w psu - del dios setup f7 choose boot - 2 thunderbolt-type usb-c on back - up to 64gb via 2 ddr5 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->MINISFORUM BD770i Ryzen 7 7745HX (8c16t) or BD795i SE 790i 9 7945HX (16c32t) or F1FXM_MB_V1.1 795M LGA1700 mATX | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 610m over usb-c, dp or hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 with 2 rear USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 2.5G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Opinion-->2024 mini-ITX M/B is the first MoDT (Mobile on Desktop) with soldered AMD CPU - 2 dual PCIe4.0 M.2 slots - 2 ddr5 sodimm slots max 5200Mhz - 8pin cpu power - battery not easily replaceable underneath - |- | <!--Name-->mINISORUM ms-a1 MS-a2 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->AMD 610M | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->dual 2.5GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2024 64bit - 19v ?A round barrel jack - 2 ddr5 so-dimm slots - choose from 5700G to 8700G apu - |- | <!--Name-->NextSBC 7840HS | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Nvme | <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M 12CU | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec | <!--USB-->USB4 and USB 3.2 | <!--Ethernet-->2 GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - 32Gb soldered - |- | <!--Name-->Minisforum UM870 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVme || <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M || <!--Audio-->HDaudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->2.5GbE || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Server Systems=== [[#top|...to the top]] ====IBM==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="15%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->xSeries 206m | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ATI RN50b (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{n/a}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0 (UHCI/EHCI)}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2014-09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Motherboard=== [[#top|...to the top]] * Late 2002, USB2.0 added and slightly better AROS sound support (AC97) appeared * 2002-2005 and still, to a limited extent, ongoing [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague bad capacitors] * Late 2003, ATX PSUs moved from 5V to 12v rails (extra 4pin on motherboard for CPU) * Late 2005, PCI Express replaced AGP and HDAudio replaced AC97 * Late 2007, ATX PSUs added extra 12V PCI-E connectors and 4+4pin for CPUs * Late 2010, USB3.0 appears on motherboards or needing a PCI-E motherboard slot * Late 2014 Hardware USB2 removed from USB3 chipsets ====AMD==== [[#top|...to the top]] =====Socket 7 (1997/1999)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->1997 VT82C586B (QFP-208) is the first from VIA with DDMA |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2000 VT82C686 has close to excellent DDMA support |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->SiS 5581/5582 SiS 5591/5595 SiS 530 /5595 SiS 600/5595 SiS 620/5595 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket A 462 (2001/4)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/motherboards/article.php/2217921/ABIT-NF7-S-nForce2-Motherboard-Review.htm Abit NF7-S] | <!--Chipset-->nForce 2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->SIL 3112A | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650 AC97 (Nvidia APU)}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL 8201LB | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Realtek RTL8801B |- | <!--Name-->ASRock K7NF2 | <!--Chipset-->nforce2 ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|AGP 8x}} | <!--Audio-->CMedia CMI 9761A AC'97 | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8201 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock K7S8X | <!--Chipset-->SIS 746FX | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|AGP 8x}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC'97 cmedia}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB2.0 works but does not boot}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|SiS900}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock K7S41GX | <!--Chipset-->SIS 741GX + DDR 333 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|onboard sis does not work with vga or vesa but AGP 8x works}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 SIS 7012}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB2.0 works but does not boot}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|SiS 900}} | <!--Opinion-->works ok |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.asus.com ASUS A7N8X] | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->Silicon Image Sil 3112A | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ac97 ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|ehci USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8201BL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->first total support for AROS in 2004/5 - damocles and M Schulz |- | <!--Name-->Biostar M7NCD | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650 AC97}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8201BL}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Chaintech 7NJS Ultra Zenith | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Promise PDC 20376 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|CMI8738}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->DFI Lanparty NF2 Ultra | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|via ac97 VT1616}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8139C | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ECS N2U400-A | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|Cmedia 9379A AC97}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|usb2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|VIA VT6103L}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA7N400L | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP 8x slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 ALC650}} | <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8100C | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.gigabyte.lv/products/page/mb/ga-8siml Gigabyte 8SIML] | <!--Chipset-->SIS 650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC'97}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|working}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Realtek RTL8100L LAN}} | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Matsonic [http://www.elhvb.com/mobokive/archive/matsonic/manual/index.html Manuals] MS83708E | <!--Chipset-->SIS730 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|SiS 5513}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|sis 305 no support use VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|sis7018}} | <!--USB-->{{no|SiS 7001 USB 1.1 only}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|SIS900}} | <!--Opinion-->little support |- | <!--Name-->[http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph07585&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&dest_page=softwareCategory&os=228&tool=softwareCategory&query=Pavilion%20742n&product=89232 MSI MS-6367 HP 722n 742n (Mambo) (2001/2)] | <!--Chipset-->Nvidia nforce 220D (2001/2) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->GeForce2 AGP works 2D nouveau only | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|AC97 ADI 1885 no volume control on Units 0-3}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 USB1.1 ports AMD based - front 2 ports iffy}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|nForce}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested 20th Aug 2012 NB |- | <!--Name-->MSI K7N2 [http://us.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&prod_no=546/ Delta ILSR] Delta-L | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 (2002/3) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|Primary & Secondary ports}} IDE Tertiary port (RAID) | <!--SATA-->2 ports (RAID) | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|when fitted with an agp video card}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ac97 ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8201BL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->runs AROS well. Tested with Icaros 1.2.3 |- | <!--Name-->MSI K7N2 Delta2-LSR Platinum | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 (2002/3) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|Primary & Secondary ports}} IDE Tertiary port (RAID) | <!--SATA-->2 ports (RAID) | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|when fitted with an agp video card}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|ac97 ALC655}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8201BL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->runs AROS well. Tested with Icaros 1.2.3 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/motherboards/article.php/2204281/Soltek-SL-75MRN-L-nForce2-Motherboard-Review.htm Soltek 75FRN-L] | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|2 ports}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->AGP slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 usb2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek RTL8201BL}} | <!--Opinion-->good support |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.3dvelocity.com/reviews/mach4nf2ultra/mach4.htm XFX Pine Mach4 nForce2 Ultra 400] | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|3 ports}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|2 ports VIA VT6240}} | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP 8x slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8201BL}} | <!--Opinion-->some support |- | <!--Name-->ASUS A7V266 | <!--Chipset-->via KT266A + 8233 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{no|issues}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot | <!--Audio-->AC97 with AD1980 codec | <!--USB-->via 8233 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6103 | <!--Opinion-->2002 issues with booting |- | <!--Name-->Asus A7V8X-X | <!--Chipset-->VIA KT400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{unk| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|agp}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 with ADI AD1980 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|VIA 8235}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|Realtek 10/100}} | <!--Opinion-->2003 not booting for Socket A for AMD Barton/Thoroughbred/Athlon XP/Athlon/Duron 2.25+ GHz CPU - 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets Max. 3 GB - |- |} =====Socket 754 (2004/5)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Abit NF8-V2 | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 250GB (2004/5) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|2 ports}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|2 ports}} | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot x8 | <!--Audio-->ALC658 ac97 | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8201C}} | <!--Opinion-->a little support but no Firewire VIA VT6306 |- | <!--Name-->Biostar CK8 K8HNA Pro | <!--Chipset-->nforce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->VT6420 thru ide legacy only | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 ALC655}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8110S | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VT6307 no |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/motherboards/Chaintech_ZNF3-150_3.html Chaintech ZNF3-150 Zenith] | <!--Chipset-->nforce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|Sli3114 SATA via IDE emul}} | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot | <!--Audio-->{{no|VIA Envy24PT (VT1720) + VT1616}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom GbE 5788}} | <!--Opinion-->very little support needs PCI cards but no Firewire VIA VT6306 |- | <!--Name-->DFI Lanparty UT nF3 250GB | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 250gb | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|2 ports nForce3 and 2 Marvell SATA PHY}} | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 ALC850}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->CK8S - Winfast NF3 250K8AA works and Marvell 88E1111 does not work | <!--Opinion-->2005 some support but no Firewire VIA VT6307 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-K8N | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA nForce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC658 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8100C | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TI43AB23 no |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte K8NNXP | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Sata sil3512 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC658 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTl8110S | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TI STB82AA2 no |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-K8NSNXP | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 250GB | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->SiI 3512 CT128 Sata Sil3515 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC850 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvel 88E8001}} | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->MSI K8N Neo-FIS2R | <!--Chipset-->nVIDIA NF3-250Gb | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Realtek 7.1 AC'97 ALC850 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E1111}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->[http://techreport.com/articles.x/5748/1 Shuttle AN50R] | <!--Chipset-->nF3-150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Sil 3112 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC650 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia nF3 (10/100) Intel 82540EM Gigabit | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VT6307 no |- | <!--Name--> Foxconn WinFast K8S755A | <!--Chipset-->SiS755 + SiS964 (DDR333) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> {{yes|AC97}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|RTL8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket 939 (2005)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus A8N-LA GeForce 6150 LE | <!--Chipset-->Geforce 6150 (MCP51) + nForce 430 (PC-3200) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|two ATA 133}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|four 3.0GB/s SATAII ports}} | <!--Gfx-->built in or PCI-E x16 | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC883 HD Audio | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL 8201CL | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus A8N-SLI Premium | <!--Chipset-->NVidia | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|PCIe slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|nForce LAN but not Marvell}} | <!--Opinion-->Works well |- | <!--Name-->DFI nF4 Ultra-D LanParty - Diamond Flower International sold to BenQ group 2010 | <!--Chipset-->nF4 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->4 ports SATA 2 | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe x16 slots | <!--Audio-->AC97 with ALC850 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Dual Gigabit Ethernet, PCIe by Vitesse VSC8201 PHY nee Cicada 8201, PCI by Marvel 88E8001 | <!--Opinion-->2006 64bit - Four 184-pin DDR Dual-Channel Slots - 1 pci on Ultra, 2 pci on sli, |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus A8V E SE | <!--Chipset-->VIA K8T890 +VT8237R CHIPSET ATX AMD Motherboard with Athlon 64 X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 | <!--ACPI-->{{N/A}} | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{N/A}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe}} AC97 driver using Realtek ALC850 codec | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} USB 2.0 only | <!--Ethernet-->{{No}} Marvell 88E8053 | <!--Opinion-->Good base but needs additional PCI cards added for better support |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS A8V Deluxe (2004) | <!--Chipset-->VIA K8T800 Pro (DDR400) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->Promise 20378 2 ports | <!--SATA-->2 SATA2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|VIA VT8233A 8235 8237 AC97}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit}} | <!--Opinion-->needs extra PCI cards |- |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->AsRock 939Dual-SATA2 | <!--Chipset-->Ali Uli M1695 PCIe with M1567 AGP | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->1 Sata with JMicron JMB360 chip | <!--Gfx-->1 pci-e and 1 agp | <!--Audio-->AC97 with ALC850 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8201CL PHY ULi 10/100 | <!--Opinion-->64bit pci-e and agp combo on board - 4 ddr slots - |} =====Socket AM2 (2006/8) and AM2+ (2007-2010) ===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 (rev. 2.x) | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA® GeForce 6100 / nForce 430 chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2d for vga}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio Realtek ALC662 Audio Codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M2N61-AR mini itx | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA nForce 430 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 | <!--SATA-->2 | <!--Gfx-->GeForce 6150SE via vga or 1 pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->Nvidia | <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia | <!--Opinion-->2006 32bit - 1 pci - 2 ddr2 dimm slots non-eec - |- | <!--Name-->asus m2n68-am se2 | <!--Chipset-->nvidia 630a 630/a MCP68SE | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 ports | <!--SATA-->2 ports MCP61 chipset is SATA over IDE, not SATA over AHCI and reports subsystem as 0x1 IDE, not 0x6 SATA | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|nvidia 7025 2d and 3d thru vga}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|hd audio with realtek alc662 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|nForce chipset RTL 8201CP}} | <!--Opinion-->2007 64bit Phenom IIX2, Athlon 64 LE X2, Sempron, and Phenom FX processors - ddr2 667Mhz ram max 4Gb - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0) | <!--Chipset-->AMD 770 with SB700 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888 codec }} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 8111C later 8111D}} | <!--Opinion-->Good support for AM2+ / AM2 with 4 ddr2 ram - 4 x PCI Express x1, 2 x PCI slots - firewire T.I. TSB43AB23 chip no support - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe | <!--Chipset-->AMD 790FX RD790 + SB600 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{No|Marvell 88SE6121 SATA II}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 1.1 support | <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio ADI® AD1988}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8056}} | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASROCK N68-S N68C-S | <!--Chipset-->AMD based nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|slimline DVD drive works}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GF 7025 use vesa}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio for VIA 1708S VT1705}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|echi usb 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8201EL / 8201CL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->2008 unbuffered 1066Mhz ddr2 ram - N68C-S may need noacpi added to grub boot line to disable pci temporarily to run as it cannot get to [PCI] Everything OK - |- | <!--Name-->Asus M2N68-AM Plus | <!--Chipset-->Athlon 64, Sempron, Athlon 64 X2, Athlon 64 FX with nvidia 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->no vga, pci-e slot only | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with ALC662 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8211CL Gigabit LAN}} | <!--Opinion-->adding "noacpi noapic noioapic" to the GRUB options - Dual channel DDR2 1066, 800, 667 MHz - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M68M-S2 (1.0) S2P (2.3) S2L GA-M68SM-S2 (1.x) | <!--Chipset-->nForce 630a chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025, vga (s2 and s2p), dvi (s2l) | <!--Audio-->ALC883 (S2), ALC888B (S2P), ALC662 (S2L), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8201CL (S2), 8211CL (S2P), 8211BL (S2L), | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit possible with AMD AM2+ CPU on AM2 motherboard, the system bus speed will downgrade from HT3.0(5200MHz) to HT1.0(2000 MT/s) spec |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M2N68-VM | <!--Chipset-->nForce 630a (MCP68PVNT) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Nvidia GeForce ® 7050PV hdmi, dvi and vga | <!--Audio-->HD audio VIA 1708B codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8211C | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit - ddr2 800Mhz |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket AM3 White socket (2010/11)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-MA74GM-S2 GA-MA74GM-S2H | <!--Chipset-->740g with sb710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|bios IDE}} | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 2100 and pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->ALC888 (r1.x),ALC888b (r2.0), ALC888B (rev4.x) | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111C later 8111D | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - 2 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets max 8 GB - Micro ATX Form Factor 24.4cm x 23.4cm - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.vesalia.de/e_aresone2011.htm Aresone 2011] | <!--Chipset-->760g | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|no Radeon HD3000 driver yet<br>vesa driver works<br>and add PCIe card}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes}} | <!--Opinion-->Good support - 4 DDR3 memory sockets - |- | <!--Name-->Foxconn A76ML-K 3.0 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760g rev3.0 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|1 }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|4 in IDE mode }} | <!--Gfx-->HD3000 with pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC662-GR codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit - 2 ddr3 slots - 2 pci slots - |- | <!--Name-->GA-MA770T-UD3P (rev. 1.0 to 1.4) | <!--Chipset-->amd 770 with sb710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|4 sata}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio with Realtek ALC888 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8168 rtl8111c/d}} | <!--Opinion-->2011 64 - 4 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 2.0 2.1) | <!--Chipset-->AMD 770 with SB700 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888 codec }} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 8111C later 8111D}} | <!--Opinion-->Good support for AM3 with 4 ddr2 ram - 4 x PCI Express x1, 2 x PCI slots - firewire T.I. TSB43AB23 chip no support - |- | <!--Name-->Asus M4A785TD-M PRO | <!--Chipset-->785G and SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|ide legacy}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ATI Radeon HD 4200 - use vesa}} or pci-e 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Opinion-->Good support with 1366 ddr3 ram - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M4A88T-I Deluxe ITX | <!--Chipset-->AMD 880G with AMD SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Three SATA 3Gbps | <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 4350 GPU with HDMI and DVI or One 16x PCI-Express 2.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC889 | <!--USB-->6 x USB 2, 2 x USB 3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek RTL8112L}} | <!--Opinion-->2014 64bit - 2 SODIMM DDR3 slots max 8GB |- | <!--Name-->Asus M4A88T-M Version E5907 E5826 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 880G SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 4250 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA VT 1708S codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek rtl8169 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->GigaByte 890GPA-UD3H | <!--Chipset-->AMD 890GX together with SB850 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Yes | <!--Gfx-->use pci-e nvidia | <!--Audio-->Maybe - ALC892 rev. 1.0, ALC892 rev 2.1, ALC889 rev. 3.1 | <!--USB-->Yes | <!--Ethernet-->Yes | <!--Opinion-->works well overall |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD7 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 890FX with SB850 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE }} | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC889 (rev 2.x) | <!--USB-->{{Yes|AMD USB2 but limited with NEC D720200F1 USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->2 x Realtek 8111D | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - XL-ATX Form Factor 32.5cm x 24.4cm - 4 ddr3 slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 890GXM-G65 | <!--Chipset-->890GX + SB750 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|legacy}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ATI 4290 built-in (vesa)}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC889 DD GR}} HD Audio crackles | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock N68-VS3 FX | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 Sata2 | <!--Gfx-->Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA® VT1705 Codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek PHY RTL8201EL | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - 2 x DDR3 DIMM slots - |- | <!--Name-->MSI GF615M-P35 MS-7597 | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA® nForce 430 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->GeForce 6150SE | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with Realtek® ALC888S}} | <!--USB-->{{No|freezes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 8211CL}} | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M68MT-S2 | <!--Chipset--> nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 vga | <!--Audio-->ALC888B (1.3), ACL887 (3.1), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8211CL (all) | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit possible, AMD AM3 CPU on this motherboard, the system bus speed will downgrade from HT3.0 (5200MT/s) to HT1.0 (2000 MT/s) spec |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M68MT-S2P | <!--Chipset--> nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 vga | <!--Audio-->ALC888B (1.x 2.x), ALC889 (3.0), ALC888B/889 (3.1), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8211CL (all) | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M4N78 PRO | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA GeForce 8300 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 xUltraDMA 133/100 | <!--SATA-->6 xSATA 3 Gbit/s ports | <!--Gfx-->Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce® 8 series GPU with 1 PCIe 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA1708S 8 -Channel codec | <!--USB-->12 USB 2.0 ports (8 ports at mid-board, 4 ports at back panel) | <!--Ethernet-->NVIDIA Gigabit | <!--Opinion-->4 x DIMM, Max. 16 GB, DDR2 1200(O.C.)/1066*/800/667 ECC,Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory - ATX Form Factor 12 inch x 9.6 inch ( 30.5 cm x 24.4 cm ) - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket AM3+ Black socket (2012/15)===== *095W FX-6300 FD6300WMHKBOX (bulldozer SSE4.1 AVX) 970 mobos with FX-8320E 8core Black Editions FD832EWMHKBOX FX-8370E (Vishera/Piledriver) *125W FX-6310 (bulldozer) 970 mobos with FX-8320 FX-8350 FX-8370 (Vishera/Piledriver) *220W 990FX mobos with FX-9000 FX-9370 FX-9590 {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M5A78L-M LX3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760G with SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|bios IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->HD3000 with pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC887, V? ALC892 codecs | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros 8161/8171 add realtek 8111? pci-e card}} | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - uATX Form Factor 9.6 inch x 7.4 inch ( 24.4 cm x 18.8 cm ) - 2 x DIMM, Max. 16GB, DDR3 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760G and SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|6 SATA2 ports}} | <!--Gfx-->GT240 and a nv7900gs, both pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC889 (r3.1), ALC??? (rev. 4.0), ALC887 (r5.x)}} | <!--USB-->4 USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 8111E (r3.1), Atheros (rev4.0), Atheros (r5.x) }} | <!--Opinion-->2012 offers very poor control over its EFI vs. BIOS booting partition features |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 (r3.0), (r4.1 Blue board), (r5.0 dark board), (rev6 dark mobo) | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760G and SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|Bios IDE mode for SATA2 on early ones}} | <!--Gfx-->AMD HD3000, pci-e GT240 and a nv7900gs | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC??? (r3.0), ALC887 (r4.1), VIA VT2021 (r5.0), Realtek® ALC892 codec (rev6) }} | <!--USB-->{{yes|AMD USB2 but not VIA® VL805 USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE | <!--Opinion-->2013 64bit - Micro ATX Form Factor 24.4cm x 24.4cm - 4 x DDR3 DIMM sockets - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 760GM | <!--Chipset-->ATI 760G plus SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->HD3000 Use Vesa | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|P33 VT1705; P34, P21 and P23 (FX) MS7641 v3.0 ALC887, E51 ALC892}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Opinion-->P23 issues with audio ALC887 crackles thru earphones - |- | <!--Name-->Gigayte GA-MA770T-UD3P (rev. 3.1) | <!--Chipset-->amd 770 with sb710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with Realtek ALC888/892 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111d/e | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASRock 890FX Deluxe5 Extreme3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 890FX + AMD SB850 or SB950 (Extreme3) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{N/A}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC892}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8111E rtl8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M5A97 R2.0 EVO | <!--Chipset-->AMD 970 and SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Asmedia SATA Controller | <!--Gfx-->n/a | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC887 (LE), ALC887 (Regular), ALC892 (EVO) codec | <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 and 2 Asmedia USB3.0 Controller | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111F | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 970 with SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio--> ALC??? (rev. 1.0/1.1), ALC887 (rev1.2), VIA VT2021 codec (rev 1.3 1.4 and rev3.0) | <!--USB-->{{yes|AMD USB2 but not Etron EJ168 chip (USB3)}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE 8111E (all revisions), | <!--Opinion-->2015 64bit - ATX Form Factor 30.5cm x 22.4cm - 4 x 1.5V DDR3 DIMM sockets - |- | <!--Name-->MSI 970 Gaming | <!--Chipset-->970FX SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC1150 Codec | <!--USB-->6 usb2 with 2 USB3 VIA VL806 Chipset | <!--Ethernet-->Killer E2205 Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M5A99X EVO | <!--Chipset-->990X - RD980 with SB920 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->2 pci-e gen ? | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC892 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 realtek 8111e | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 990 with SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC889 (rev 1.x, 3.0, 3.1), | <!--USB-->{{yes|AMD USB2 not 2 x Etron EJ168 chips for USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->realtek rtl8169 8111e | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - ATX Form Factor; 30.5cm x 24.4cm - 4 ddr3 slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====AMD Fusion (2011/14)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | 1.2GHz single Bobcat Fusion C30 + Hudson M1 | ACPI | IDE | SATA | AMD 6250 | Audio | USB | Ethernet | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | Asus E35M1-M PRO uATX | 1.6GHz 18W AMD Fusion E-350 dual core + Hudson M1 | ACPI | {{N/A}} | SATA | AMD 6310 - no HD driver yet | ALC887 VD2 | USB | RTL8111E | 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - EFI bios [http://www.anandtech.com/show/4023/the-brazos-performance-preview-amd-e350-benchmarked] |- | Asus E35M1-I Deluxe miniITX | 1.6GHz dual AMD Fusion E350 + Hudson M1 + DDR3 | ACPI | {{N/A}} | SATA | AMD 6310 - no HD driver yet | ALC892 | USB | Realtek 8111E | 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - no support for Atheros AR5008 on a Mini PCI-E |- | ASRock E350M1 / USB3 (also version with USB3.0 added) | 1.6GHz dual AMD Fusion E350 + Hudson M1 | ACPI | {{N/A}} | SATA - 4 SATA3 | {{Maybe|AMD 6310 - use vesa with hdmi and dvi}} | {{Yes|Audio ALC892 playback but no HDMI output}} | USB - 4 USB2.0 and 2 USB3.0 | {{Yes|rtl8169 for Realtek 8111E 8411 ethernet chipset}} | 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-E350N-USB3 mini-ITX | <!--Chipset--> Hudson M1 FCH | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 SATA3 | <!--Gfx--> plus HDMI, DVI | <!--Audio-->ALC892 | <!--USB-->2 NEC USB3.0 with 4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-E350N Win8 V1.0 | <!--Chipset-->Hudson M1 FCH A45 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 SATA3 | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Use VESA - AMD 6310 plus HDMI, DVI}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC887 playback through headphones but not thru hdmi}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|4 USB2.0 needs more testing}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8111 8168B}} | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - works well but need to test with sata hard disk |- | <!--Name-->MSI E350IA-E45 | <!--Chipset-->e-350 + Hudson M1 + DDR3 | <!--ACPI-->no support | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 Sata3 ports | <!--Gfx-->AMD 6310 gpu | <!--Audio-->ALC HDA | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 and 2 USB3.0 through NEC 720200 chipset | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS E45M1-M PRO | <!--Chipset-->E450 APU with Hudson M1 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS E45M1-I Deluxe | <!--Chipset-->E-450 together | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket FM1 (2011/13)===== On board Graphic on CPU - HD6410D, HD6530D, HD6550D, {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS F1A55-M LE | <!--Chipset--> with AMD A55 FCH (Hudson D2) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->6 x SATA 3Gbit/s port(s), blue Support Raid 0, 1, 10, JBOD | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 2.0 slot or Integrated AMD Radeon™ HD 6000 in Llano APU | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC887 Audio CODEC | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 ports | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E rtl8169 | <!--Opinion-->2012 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - A-Series/E2- Series APUs up to 4 cores - 2 x DIMM, Max. 32GB, DDR3 2250(O.C.)/1866/1600/1333/1066 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory Dual Channel Memory Architecture - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket FM2 White Socket (2012/13)===== Onboard Gfx on CPU - HD6570, HD7480D, HD7540D, {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A75 A85X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket FM2 Plus Black socket (2013/15)===== Onboard Gfx on CPU - HD6570, HD7480D, HD7540D, {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A88X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket AM1 FS1b socket (2014/1x)===== 5350 4 core Jaguar cores 2GHz with Integrated AMD Radeon R Series Graphics in the APU Kabini [Radeon HD 8400] Later Beema APU with 2/4 core Puma (slightly updated Jaguar) cores, GCN graphics and a compute capable Radeon core, along with a brand new AMD security processor and FT3 BGA packaging (probably best avoided for long term survival). {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS AM1I-A | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio Realtek® ALC887-VD | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111GR 8168 | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit may support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->MSI AM1I | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111G | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI AM1M | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111G | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->BGA FT3 AM1x |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket AM4 FM3 Summit Ridge Zen Zen+ (2016/22)===== Jim Keller’s group designed x86 Zen CPU - new and covering the same AM4 platform/socket for desktop Zen will also shift from Bulldozer’s Clustered Multithreading (CMT) to Simultaneous Multithreading (SMT, aka Intel’s Hyperthreading). CMT is the basis for Bulldozer’s unusual combination of multiple integer cores sharing a single FPU within a module, so the move to SMT is a more “traditional” design for improving resource usage Trusted Platform Module, or fTPM, that Windows 11 requires. Ryzen processors using a firmware TPM are causing stutters, even when doing mundane tasks. To enable TPM 2.0 on your AMD system please follow the steps below. <pre> Power on system and press DEL or F2 to get into the BIOS. Navigate to Advanced\CPU Configuration. Enable AMD fTPM switch. Press F10 to save changes. </pre> {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero | <!--Chipset-->X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 (1x16 or 2x8) | <!--Audio-->SupremeFX audio features an S1220 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel I211 | <!--Opinion-->Ryzen 7 1800X 1700X |- | <!--Name-->Biostar X370gtn Itx Am4 | <!--Chipset-->AMD X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek Dragon LAN RTL8118AS | <!--Opinion--> 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-AX370 K7 | <!--Chipset--> X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with 2 x Realtek® ALC1220 codec 0x10EC, 0x0295 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->1 intel and 1 E2500 | <!--Opinion--> 4 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->MSI Xpower Gaming Titanium | <!--Chipset--> X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->8-channel Realtek 1220 Codec 0x10EC, 0x0295 | <!--USB-->ASMedia® ASM2142 and amd cpu | <!--Ethernet-->1 x Intel® I211AT Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion--> 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Prime B350 Plus ATX | <!--Chipset-->B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 mode) | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC887 8-Channel | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->Ryzen 5 1600x 1600 1500X 1400 - 4 x DIMM Max 64GB, DDR4 up to 2666MHz ECC and non-ECC Memory - ATX 12 inch x 9.35 inch ( 30.5 cm x 23.7 cm ) - 2 pci |- | <!--Name-->Asus PRIME B350M-A/CSM Micro ATX | <!--Chipset-->AMD B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek LAN | <!--Opinion-->Ryzen 3 1300x 1200 1100 |- | <!--Name-->AsRock Pro4 AB350 | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe 3.0 x16, 4 PCIe 2.0 x1 | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->2017 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac | <!--Chipset--> B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic Mortar | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 (x16 mode) | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->white and grey colours - 2 pci-e and 2 pci slots - m.2 in middle - atx 12 in by 9.6 in and matx versions - |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue M-ATX B350M-TI | <!--Chipset-->B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue B350I-Plus ITX | <!--Chipset-->B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock A320M-ITX MINI ITX Rev1.0 Rev2 Rev2.1 | <!--Chipset-->A320 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2018 |- | <!--Name-->Asus PRIME A320M-C R2.0 rev1.1 A320M-K | <!--Chipset-->A320 A/B300 SFF | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HD audio with Realtek ALC887 alc897 CODEC | <!--USB-->2 usb 3.1 gen 1 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2019 64bit - 3rd/2nd/1st Gen AMD Ryzen™ / 2nd and 1st Gen AMD Ryzen™ with Radeon™ Vega |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI A320M-A PRO MicroATX | <!--Chipset-->AMD A320 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio Realtek® ALC892 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 8111H | <!--Opinion-->2019 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG X399 Zenith Extreme | <!--Chipset-->AMD X399 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> supremefx s1220 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Opinion-->Threadripper 1950X 1920X 1900X TR4 skt |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->AsRock Fatality X470 Gaming K4 mATX | <!--Chipset-->X470 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->nvme | <!--Gfx-->pci-e rebar possible | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asrock Fatal1ty X470 Gaming-ITXac AMD AM4 | <!--Chipset-->AMD X470 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS ROG STRIX X470-I GAMING AM4 ITX Motherboard | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus B450-I Gaming | <!--Chipset-->AMD B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->high VRM temps - raven ridge 14nm+ like 2200G 2400G |- | <!--Name-->AsRock B450 Gaming K4 | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> alc892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> 4 ddr4 slots - low VRM thermals 3900x 3950x |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte B450 I Aorus Pro Wifi | <!--Chipset-->AMD B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 nvme pcie3 with 4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pcie | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek® ALC1220-VB codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Opinion-->very high vrm temps |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue B450i Gaming ITX | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata3 - none nvme | <!--Gfx-->pcie3 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->1G | <!--Opinion-->2021 64 2nd 3rd AMD - 2 ddr4 dimm slots |- | <!--Name-->MSI b450 tomahawk max | <!--Chipset--> b450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{n/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HD audio with Realtek® ALC892 Codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111H | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450 Pro Carbon | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> ALC codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450-A PRO | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111h | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450I GAMING Plus AC ITX | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2019 - 2nd and 3rd gen AMD - 2 ddr4 slots - |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450 GAMING PLUS MAX | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek® ALC892/ALC897 Codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111H | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MAXSUN AMD Challenger B450M M-ATX (aka Soyo) | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASRock X570 PHANTOM GAMING-ITX/TB3 Mini ITX AM4 | <!--Chipset-->X570 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->nvme | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 4.0 | <!--Audio--> ALC1200 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero | <!--Chipset-->AMD X570 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> SupremeFX7.1 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel® I211-AT and Realtek® RTL8125-CG 2.5G LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> alc1220 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Strix B550-i AM4 ITX Motherboard | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 - |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue Jingyue B550i Gaming itx | <!--Chipset-->B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->3 with 1 nvme | <!--Gfx-->1 pci-e 4 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio alc | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->1G | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit max of Ryzen 5500 (c t), 5600, 5600g (6c12t) - 2 ddr4 |- | <!--Name-->Asrock B550 PHANTOM GAMING ITX/AX | <!--Chipset-->AMD B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> alc1220 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel 2.5G | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->AsRock B550M-ITX/ac | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> Realtek ALC887/897 Audio Codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion-->2022 - 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING | <!--Chipset-->B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->PCIe Gen4 x4 & SATA3 | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 4 | <!--Audio--> supremefx S1220A | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel® I225-V 2.5Gb | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte AMD B550I AORUS PRO AX Mini-ITX rev 1.0 | <!--Chipset-->AMD B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme pci-e3 with 4 sata3 | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC1220-VB codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 2.5GbE LAN | <!--Opinion-->2021 2 x DDR4 DIMM sockets 1Rx8/2Rx8/1Rx16 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX | <!--Chipset-->B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 DP and hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC1200 | <!--USB-->USB3 USB 3.2 Gen1 Type-C | <!--Ethernet-->2.5GbE LAN | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit- finer tuning than A520's - AMD Ryzen 5000 Series/ 3rd Gen Ryzen and 3rd Gen Ryzen with Radeon Graphics CPU - Dual Channel ECC/ Non-ECC Unbuffered DDR4, 4 DIMMs - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX | <!--Chipset--> B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio ALC887 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->realtek rtl8118 | <!--Opinion-->2021 64bit - 4 ddr4 dimms - |- | <!--Name-->MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX | <!--Chipset--> B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC892 | <!--USB-->USB 3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111H | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Processors - 4 dimm ddr4 - |- | <!--Name-->MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX | <!--Chipset--> B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe 1 x M.2, Socket 3, M Key (up to Type 22110) and 1 x M.2, Socket 3, M Key (Type 2242/2260/2280) | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 with dp and hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDaudio ALC1200 | <!--USB-->USB3 1 x USB 3.1 Type-C and 1 x USB 3.1 Type-A | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8125B and Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - 4 Dimm slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue A520M-H mATX | <!--Chipset-->A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> old bios with random issues with APU ryzens - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte A520M S2H mATX | <!--Chipset-->AMD A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 1GbE | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit Zen3 65W and up - 2 ddr4 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte A520I AC mITX mini-itx | <!--Chipset-->AMD A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit Zen3 65W and up 5600G (6c12t) or 5700G (8c16t) - 2 ddr4 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->MSI A520M-A PRO mATX | <!--Chipset-->A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe 1 x M.2, Socket 3, M Key (Type 2242/2260/2280) | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC892 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111H | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - 2 ddr4 dimm slots - 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Desktop and AMD Ryzen 4000 G-Series CPU |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} ===== (Socket AM5 LGA1718 Zen4 2022/2x)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asrock Steel Legend | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e rnda2 | <!--Audio-->HD audio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - ddr5 ecc (10 chip) and non-ecc (8 chips) 64Gb @ 6000Mhz or 128GB @ 4800Mhz - |- | <!--Name-->Asrock TaiChi | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e rnda2 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio | <!--USB-->USB4 with Thunderbolt 4 equivalent | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek killer E3000 2.5GbE}} | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - ddr5 ecc (10 chip) and non-ecc (8 chips) |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Crosshair Hero | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe rnda2 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->rnda3 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit 7950x3d 120W, 7900 7800 7600 90W |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->rnda3 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus B650E-I | <!--Chipset-->B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 5 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2023 - better sound with an actual AMP, PCIe 5, USB-C display outs - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x650 B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x650 B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x650 B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MAXSUN AMD Challenger B650M WIFI M-ATX (aka Soyo) | <!--Chipset-->B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI b650i mini itx | <!--Chipset-->B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 4 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->2023 - front panel connectors at the back of the board - dead rear nvme slot and a drained CMOS battery as the CMOS button being pressed during shipping - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M Zen4 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> Zen5 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> Zen6 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} ===== (Zen? AM? 203x/3x)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} ====Intel==== [[#top|...to the top]] =====Socket 370 (2000/2)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Intel D815EEA | <!--Chipset-->866Mhz P3 and i815 chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia AGPx8 6200LE added}} | <!--Audio-->{{N/A}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|2 USB1.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested AspireOS 1.7, simple basic board with useful 5 PCI slots |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket 478 (2002/4)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->[http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://detail.zol.com.cn/motherboard/index46381.shtml&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dc.865pe.l%2Bmotherboard%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DsZB%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official Colorful Technology C.865PE-L Silver Fighter Warrior V2.3] | <!--Chipset-->865PE | <!--ACPI-->{{dunno| }} | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|tested with CDROM}} | <!--SATA-->{{dunno| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|AGP slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|ALC650 AC97}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 1.1 and 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8100 8139}} | <!--Opinion-->Still testing with NB (Nightly Build) May 2013 |- | <!--Name-->Intel 845 | <!--Chipset-->865P | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{No|intel 800}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 AD1985}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|e1000}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested ICAROS 1.3 |- | <!--Name-->Intel 845 | <!--Chipset-->865GC | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{No|intel 865 Extreme Graphics 2}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 AD1985}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|e1000}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested ICAROS 1.3 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA775 s775 (2005/8)===== an industry standard DDR2 module could in theory contain fallback JEDEC, intel XMP and AMD EPP configuration data Intel PC CL5 ram modules but an "AMD" CL5 ram module the BIOS cannot read the AMD EPP info on the SPD (Serial Presence Detect) but can recognize the CL5 timing info in the JEDEC data table. PC BIOS auto configures for the AMD ram module and boots normally. an AMD PC CL6 ram modules but an "INTEL" CL6 ram module the BIOS cannot read the INTEL XMP info on the SPD but can recognize the CL6 timing info in JEDEC data table. PC BIOS auto configures for the AMD ram module and boots normally. an INTEL PC needs CL6 ram modules but have an "AMD" CL4 ram module. INTEL BIOS cannot read the AMD EPP info on the SPD but can recognize the CL4 timing info in JEDEC data table. PC BIOS recognizes module timings as incompatible an refuses to boot. entirely separate issue if the RAM module timing specs are incompatible.(i.e. CL4 RAM in a "CL6 only" PC) {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Abit AG8 | <!--Chipset-->P915 + ICH6R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports SATA1 | <!--Gfx-->1 PCIe x16 Slot | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC658 AC97 | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8110S-32 | <!--Opinion-->2004 32bit - Firewire TI 4200R7T no |- | <!--Name-->MSI 915 Neo2 | <!--Chipset-->P915 + ICH6R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports SATA1 | <!--Gfx-->1 PCIe x16 Slot | <!--Audio-->CMI 9880L HD Audio | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcomm BCM5751 PCIe}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VIA VT6306 no |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5GC P5GC-MX | <!--Chipset-->P945GC Lakeport-GC + ICH7R northbridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 3.0 Gbit/s ports | <!--Gfx-->1 PCIe 1.1 slot | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC662 codec | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 usb2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|atheros L2}} | <!--Opinion-->2005 32bit - 3 pci slots - 4 x 240-pin DIMM Sockets max. 4GB DDR2 667/533 non-ECC - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Foxconn PC45CM-SA 45CM-S | <!--Chipset-->945GC with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 sata2 ports | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|pcie 1.0 slot with gma950 integrated}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with aLC883 codec playback}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|realtek 8139 8100sc}} | <!--Opinion-->2 dimm slots 667mhz max 4gb - can be found in Advent desktops - 2 pci-e and 2 pci - core 2 duo only e6xxx - Micro ATX (9.6” x 8.8”) - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-81945GM MFY-RH | <!--Chipset-->Intel® 945GM Express with ICH7M-DH | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA950 VGA15 and PCI-e 1.0 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC880 codec playback only rear port}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 usb 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO1000PL 82573L Gigabit Ethernet}} | <!--Opinion-->2006 MoDT term “Mobile on DeskTop.”, low TDP CPUs to work on desktop form-factor motherboards. mATX Micro ATX 24.4cm x 24.4cm - 2 DDR2 dimm 1.8v slots with 4Gb max - will not boot if PCI2 slot occupied - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-945 GCM S2C | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662 (1.x)}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|8101E Rtl 8169 (1.x)}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA945-GCM S2L | <!--Chipset-->945GC with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCi-E slot | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD Audio with ALC662 codec 2/4/5.1-channel (1.x)}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8111c 8169 (1.x)}} | <!--Opinion-->2 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM 4GB DDR2 memory max - 2 PCI-e and 2 PCI - Micro ATX form factor; 24.4cm x 19.3cm - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 945P Neo-F rev 1.0 | <!--Chipset-->P945 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCie 1.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC662 HDA | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->8110SC (rtl8169) | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 945P Neo2-F rev 1.2 | <!--Chipset-->P945 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCie 1.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC850 AC97 | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->8110SC (rtl8169) | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-P31-DS3L | <!--Chipset-->P31 with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCI Express x16 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC888 codec | <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111B | <!--Opinion-->DDR2 800Mhz up to 4Gb 4 x 240 pin - 3 PCI - ATX 12.0" x 8.3" - |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5KPL-AM /PS | <!--Chipset-->G31 with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->4 xSATA 3 Gbit/s ports | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 1.1 with integrated Intel® GMA 3100 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA VT1708B with ALC662 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8102EL 100/10 LAN with Realtek RTL8111C Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion-->2 x 2 GB DDR2 Non-ECC,Un-buffered DIMMs with 2 PCI - Intel Graphics Media Accelerator - |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5KPL/EPU | <!--Chipset-->G31 with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Pci-e 1.0 slot | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8169 Realtek 8111C}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested - 4 240-pin DIMM, Max. 4 GB - 4 pci-e and 3 pci - ATX Form Factor 12 inch x 8.2 inch ( 30.5 cm x 20.8 cm ) - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G31M ES2L | <!--Chipset-->G31 plus ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 3100 2d}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC883 (1.x), ALC883/888B (2.x)}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|RTL8111C (1.x), Atheros 8131 (2.x)}} | <!--Opinion-->reduces DRAM capacity to 4GB |- | <!--Name-->ASRock G31M-S r1.0 G31M-GS | <!--Chipset-->G31 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|4 sata2}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GMA 3100 2d not 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{partial|rtl8169 RTL8111DL 8169 (for -GS) RTL8102EL (for -S)}} | <!--Opinion-->2007 64bit Core2 - 2 DDR2 800 max 8Gig AMI bios MicroATX - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock G31M-S r2.0 | <!--Chipset-->G31 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|4 sata2}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GMA 3100 2d not 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL 8111DL 8169}} | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit core2 - 2 DDR2 800 max 8Gig MicroATX |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/apac/eng/products/desktop/bdb/dg31pr/feature/index.htm Intel DG31PR] | <!--Chipset-->iG31 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|3100 but can use PCIe 1.1 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888 playback}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8111B Rtl 8169}} | <!--Opinion-->good support |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Intel G33 Express Chipset with ich9 southbridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Intel 3100 powervr tile based | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit - embedded on Core 2 Quad, Core 2 Duo, Pentium Dual-Core CPUS with Integrated GPU Intel GMA 3100 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS P5G41T-M LX | <!--Chipset-->G41 + ICH8 + DDR3 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|X4500 some 2d only)}} | <!--Audio-->ALC887 | <!--USB-->3 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros L1c AR8131}} | <!--Opinion-->reduces maximum supported memory ddr3 from 16 to 8GB 2 dimm slots non-EEC - demotes the PCIe controller mode from revision 2.0 (5.0GT/s) to revision 1.1 (2.5GT/s |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G41MT S2 | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->VT1708S (1.3), ALC887-VD2 (1.4), ALC887 (2.1), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Atheros AR8151 l1c (1.x 2.x), | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G41MT S2PT | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC887 (1.0), VIA (2.0), ALC887 (2.1) | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8111E (1.x), Atheros AR8151 l1c (2.1), | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G41MT D3 | <!--Chipset-->G41 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 Port | <!--SATA-->4 Ports | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|GMA X4500 2d only and pci-e 1.1 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888B}} | <!--USB-->4 ports + headers | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8111 D/E}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-P41T D3P | <!--Chipset-->G41 + ICH7 with Intel Core 2 Duo (E6xxx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4ports | <!--Gfx-->GMA X4500 2d | <!--Audio-->ALC888 889/892 | <!--USB-->4 ports | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8111C or D/E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Intel DG41AN Classic | <!--Chipset-->iG41 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx-->X4500 2d | <!--Audio-->ALC888S ALC888VC | <!--USB-->4 ports | <!--Ethernet-->8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->AsRock P5B-DE | <!--Chipset-->P965 + ICH8 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|works ide legacy}} |<!--Gfx-->{{Yes|with PCI-E 1.1 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio via VT1708S}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8169}} | <!--Opinion-->2006 works well |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5B SE | <!--Chipset-->965 intel | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{N/A}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio ALC662 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No| }} | <!--Opinion-->works well except ethernet |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5W DH Deluxe P5WDG2 WS PRO | <!--Chipset-->975X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->2 ports | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe x16 slots | <!--Audio-->ALC882 AND LATER ADI 1988B | <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8052 88E8053}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TI TSB43AB22A no |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Abit IP35 | <!--Chipset-->P35 Express + ICH9R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 ports | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC888 HDA | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->two RTL8110SC | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Texas TSB43 AB22A no |- | <!--Name-->MSI P35 Neo F FL MS-7630 rev 1 | <!--Chipset-->Intel P35 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 1.1 support | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC888 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->Base model of this range of P35 mobos |- | <!--Name-->GA-P35-DS3 | <!--Chipset-->P35 and ICH9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC889A codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111B | <!--Opinion-->2008 - 4 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets max 8 GB - |- | <!--Name-->GA-EP35-DS3 (rev. 2.1) | <!--Chipset-->Intel® P35 + ICH9 Chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{unk|}} | <!--SATA-->{{unk|4 }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{unk|Realtek ALC889A codec }} | <!--USB-->{{yes | }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8111B}} | <!--Opinion-->good |- | <!--Name-->Abit IX38 Quad GT | <!--Chipset-->X38 / ICH9R Chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCI-E 2.0 slot | <!--Audio--> HD Audio ALC888 | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL 8110SC 8169SC | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Texas TSB 43AB22A no |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte X38-DQ6 | <!--Chipset-->X38 / ICH9R Chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCI-E 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC889A HDA | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->twin 8111B 8169 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-EP45 DS3 (2008) | <!--Chipset-->P45 + ICH9 or ICH10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 x SATA 3Gbit/s (SATAII0, SATAII1, SATAII2, SATAII3, SATAII4, SATAII5) | <!--Gfx-->two PCI-E v2.0 x16 slots support splitting its 16 PCIe 2.0 lanes across two cards at x8 transfers | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC888 or ALC889A codec | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->2 x Realtek 8111C chips (10/100 /1000 Mbit) | <!--Opinion-->4 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets non-EEC |- | <!--Name-->MSI P45 Platinum (2008) | <!--Chipset-->P45 + ICH9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 sata2 ports | <!--Gfx-->two PCI-E x16 v2.0 slots | <!--Audio-->ALC888 HD Audio | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->G45 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->adds Intel’s GMA X4500HD graphics engine to P45 Express features | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->G43 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->GMA X4500 2d | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->removes HD video acceleration from the G45’s features |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5E Deluxe | <!--Chipset--> X48 with ICH9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ADI 1988B codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Marvell 88E8001 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->GigaByte GA-X48 DQ6 | <!--Chipset-->X48 plus ICH9R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->8 ports | <!--Gfx-->two PCI-E x16 v2.0 slots | <!--Audio-->ALC889A | <!--USB-->8 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8111B 8169 | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TSB43AB23 no - ICH9 pairs with Intel’s 3-series (X38, P35, etc.) chipsets, in addition to the X48 Express, but excluding the G35 Express |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte EP43-DS3L and Gigabyte GA-EP43-UD3L | <!--Chipset-->P43 with ICH10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 x SATA 3Gbit/s connectors | <!--Gfx-->1 x PCI Express x16 slot PCI Express 2.0 standard | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC888 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8111C | <!--Opinion-->4 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets - 4 pcie x1 - 2 pci - ATX Form Factor; 30.5cm x 21.0cm |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte 73-pvm-s2h rev.1.0 | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA GeForce 7100 nForce 630i | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|1 port}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|3 ports SATA2}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d GeForce 7100 (vga /hdmi/dvi), 1 PCIe x16 Slot }} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ALC889A MCP73}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|7 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL 8211B MCP73}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Not, tested with Icaros Desktop 2.0.3 MCP73 is a single chip solution in three different versions |- | <!--Name-->Nvidia 7150 630i | <!--Chipset-->intel based nForce 630i (MCP73) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|ide legacy}} | <!--GFX-->GF 7150 | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD AUDIO ALC883}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|ohci echi}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8201C}} | <!--Opinion-->being tested |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2.0 x16 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> the MCP73PV or the GeForce 7050/nForce 630i |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->the MCP73S or the GeForce7025/nForce 630i |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->the MCP73V or the GeForce 7025/nForce 610i |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Atom SOC (2008/2x)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->D945CLF | <!--Chipset-->N230 single core | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|GMA945}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662}} Skt 441 | <!--USB-->{{yes|uhci and ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} | <!--Opinion-->works very well |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.clusteruk.com iMica D945GCKF2 mobo] | <!--Chipset-->Intel Atom N330 Dual Core | <!--ACPI-->wip | <!--IDE-->{{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|gma}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD AUDIO}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|uhci ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->D945GSEJT + Morex T1610 | <!--Chipset-->Atom 230 with 945GSE | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|GMA900 vga but issues with DVI output}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio with ALC662 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169 8111DL}} | <!--Opinion-->small size, runs off 12V |- | <!--Name-->ASUS AT3N7A-I | <!--Chipset-->Atom N330 Nvidia ION | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|3 ports legacy IDE}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|nouveau cube cube 2 45 quake 3 }} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with VIA 1708S codec playback}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169 device}} | <!--Opinion--><ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAiJpvu73iw</ref> good but can freeze randomly at times |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->D410PT 45nm pinetrail | <!--Chipset-->D410 and NM10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|ide legacy}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GMA3150}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC262 or ALC66x odd clicks}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8111DL}} | <!--Opinion-->some support |- | <!--Name-->45nm pinetrail | <!--Chipset-->D510 and NM10 + GMA3150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->GMA3150 | <!--Audio-->ALC888B or ALC66x | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8111DL | <!--Opinion-->some support |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-D525TUD (rev. 1.0 1.2 1.5) | <!--Chipset-->D525 NM10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->gma 3150 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111f | <!--Opinion-->2012 64 - 2 ddr3 dimm slots max 8g - Mini-ITX Form Factor; 17.0cm x 17.0cm - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- |} =====Socket 1366 (2009/10)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P6T DELUXE | <!--Chipset-->x58 + ICH10 and Intel 1st gen. (Nehalem/Lynnfield) Core i7 (8xx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|1 port}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe x16 (r2.0) slots | <!--Audio-->ADI AD2000B HD Audio | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Marvell 88E8056 Gigabit}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VIA VT6308 no |- | <!--Name-->gigabyte ex58 ds | <!--Chipset--> x58 + ICH10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111D rtl8169 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket 1156 (2010)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire M3910 | <!--Chipset-->i3 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA intel HD}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|HDAudio with Realtek ALC}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk| Realtek}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2H | <!--Chipset-->H55 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe slot | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|ALCxxx playback}} ALC888B (Rev1.x) | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8111D}} (Rev 1.x) | <!--Opinion-->Tested but no support for WLAN Realtek 8188su |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI H55M-E33 v1.0 | <!--Chipset-->E7636 M7636 H55 chipset so older i3/i5/i7 system | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio ALC889}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|PCI-E Realtek 8111DL}} | <!--Opinion-->Works well |- | <!--Name-->Asus P7P55D | <!--Chipset-->P55 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{unk| }} | <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{maybe | via codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe |rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111B/C RTL8112L }} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA 1155 H2 (2010/13)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS P8H61-I LX R2.0 | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->1 pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111f | <!--Opinion-->2013 - up to ivybridge cpus - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->Asus P8H61-I/RM/SI mini-itx | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2012 64 up to i3-2010 - OEM board from an RM machine but not ivybridge as the Asus BIOS isn't compatible with these, 0909 hacked one might work - |- | <!--Name-->asus p8h61-i lx r2.0/rm/si mini itx | <!--Chipset-->h61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2.0 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with VIA codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111e | <!--Opinion-->2012 sandy and ivy - oem from rm machine 2 x 240-Pin DDR3 DIMM sockets max DDR3 1333MHz - |- | <!--Name-->‎Bewinner 63q9c7omvs V301 ITX | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata with nvme | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 4 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8106E 100M Network Card | <!--Opinion-->2022 64 |- | <!--Name-->Biostar H61 H61MHV2 H61MHV3 Ver. 7.0 | <!--Chipset-->H61 with Intel Pentium G 2xxx series CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC662 later ALC897 | <!--USB-->4 usb2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->2014 - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H61M-D2-B3 | <!--Chipset-->H61 + Sandybridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC889 | <!--USB-->2 ports | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H61MA-D3V | <!--Chipset-->H61 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Maybe No Realtek ALC887 (Rev 2.0) ALC887 (Rev2.1) | <!--USB-->2 ports | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->GA-H61M-S2PV | <!--Chipset-->H61 with 2400k 2500k 2600k 2700k | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC887 (rev 1.0 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3) | <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Rtl811E (1.0) 8151 (2.0) Rtl8111F (2.1 2.2 2.3) | <!--Opinion-->Micro ATX Form Factor; 24.4cm x 20cm with 2 pci-e and 2 pci - |- | <!--Name-->Intel Classic Series DH61CR Desktop | <!--Chipset-->H61 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC892 | <!--USB-->4 ports | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82579V}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI H61M-P20 (G3) MS-7788 *retail MSI board *OEM Advent, etc | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|four SATAII ports}} | <!--Gfx-->1 PCI Express gen3 (retail) gen2 (oem) x16 slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8105E 100M Network Card}} | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - 2 ddr3 slots - 22.6cm(L) x 17.3cm(W) M-ATX Form Factor - BIOS - [https://www.arosworld.org/infusions/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=1149&rowstart=140&pid=6009#post_6007 works well], |- | <!--Name-->MSI H61I-E35 (B3) MS-7677 Ver.1.2 | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2d for hdmi}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|https://www.arosworld.org/infusions/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=1149&rowstart=140&pid=5861#post_5861 works}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P8H67-M | <!--Chipset-->H67 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata3 - 4 sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC887 | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P8Z68-V LX | <!--Chipset-->Z68 + Intel 2nd generation (Sandy Bridge) Core i7 (2xxx) CPU and possibly ivybridgev | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|2 sata3 - 4 sata2}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio Intel HD with ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 USB3.0 - 4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek® 8111E}} | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit SSE 4.1 and AVX - EFI bios - 4 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 (B3) | <!--Chipset-->Z68 + Ivybridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata3 - 4 sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC889 | <!--USB-->2 USB3.0 - 4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->H77 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H77-D3H 1.0 1.1 | <!--Chipset-->H77 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata 3.0 | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio VIA VT2021 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros GbE LAN chip}} | <!--Opinion-->2013 64bit i5 3550 7 3770 - 4 DDR3 slots - 2 full pci-e 2 pci slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA Z77 D3H with i3 3225 dual | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio VIA VT2021 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros GbE LAN chip}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA 1150 H3 (2013/2016)===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H87N-WIFI mITX | <!--Chipset-->H87 and Intel 4th generation (Haswell) Core i5 (4xxx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel Atheros | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus H81M-C H81M-P-SI | <!--Chipset-->H81 with 4th generation (Haswell) Core i7 (4xxx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2x3g 2x6g | <!--Gfx-->pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->hdaudio alc887 vd | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8111gr | <!--Opinion-->skt 1150 - 2 ddr3 max 16g - mini atx - |- | <!--Name-->Asus H81T | <!--Chipset-->H81 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->HD4000 igpu only | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC887-VD | <!--USB-->Intel USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 realtek 8111G | <!--Opinion-->2013 64bit intel 4th gen mini itx - external dc brick with 19v rare barrel pin 7.4MM x 5.0MM - 2 ddr3 laptop sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H81M-S2V | <!--Chipset-->H81 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC887 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® GbE LAN chip | <!--Opinion-->2014 64bit up to i7 4790K - 2 DDR3 slots - |- | <!--Name-->GA-H81M-D3V (rev. 1.0) | <!--Chipset-->H81 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|2 sata2 2 sata3 }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{unk| HDAudio Realtek® ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|intel and VIA® VL805}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|rtl8169 Realtek }} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Z87-K | <!--Chipset-->Z87 with 4th generation (Haswell) Core i7 4c8t i5 4c4t CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H | <!--Chipset-->Z87 Express | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with Realtek® ALC898 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA H97M D3H r1.0 r1.1 with i3 4360 or 4370 dual | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Z97 A with i7 4790K | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->750, 960, 970 and 980 nvidia GTX cards | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan ethernet | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA Z97X UD3H rev1.0 1.1 1.2 | <!--Chipset-->Z97 with i5 4690K | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with ALC1150 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI GAMING 5 Z97 | <!--Chipset-->Z97 with 4th generation (Haswell) Core i7 4c8t CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS Q87M-E | <!--Chipset-->Q87 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2014 64bit - 4 DDR3 slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->H99 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA 1151 Socket H4 (2015/2018)===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->Skylake CPUs have TPM 2.0 imbedded |- | <!--Name-->Asus H110 Plus H110M-A/DP | <!--Chipset--> with 6th Gen Core and 7th with bios update | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Sunrise Point-H SATA [AHCI mode] [8086 a102] | <!--Gfx-->{{No|Skylake Integrated HD Graphics use PIC-E slot}} | <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC887 Audio CODEC | <!--USB-->Sunrise Point-H USB 3.0 xHCI [8086: a12f] no usb2.0 fallback | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8111GR or 8111H RTL8111 8168 8411}} | <!--Opinion-->ATX with 3 pci-e and 2 DDR4 slots - uatx version smaller - turn off TLSF as it was causing AHI driver to corrupt. Turned off ACPI for errors but works fine once booted - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS H110M-R M-ATX | <!--Chipset-->H110 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 x SATA 6Gb/s | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio Realtek® ALC887 codec | <!--USB-->Intel USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->2016 64bit 6th Gen Skylake Core™ i7/Core™ 6950X i7-6970HQ i7-6700K 4c8t hyperthreading, i5/Core™ i5-6600K 4c4t i3/Pentium® / Celeron® - 2 DDR4 DIMMS Max 32GB 2133MHz - 1 full pci-e and 2 pci-e 1 - |- | <!--Name-->Asus H110T | <!--Chipset-->H110 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->intel igpu only | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Dual Intel/Realtek GbE languard | <!--Opinion-->2016 - mini itx 12v / 19v laptop type rare barrel pin 7.4MM x 5.0MM - 2 sodimm ddr4 slots - no pci-e slot - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2H MATX Rev1.0 | <!--Chipset-->H110 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC887 codec | <!--USB-->2 (USB 3.1 Gen 1) ports with 4 us2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® GbE LAN | <!--Opinion--> 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->Msi H110M-PRO-VH | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 x SATA 6Gb/s | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 | <!--Audio--> Realtek® ALC887 Codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111h | <!--Opinion--> 6th gen intel - 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus H170 Pro Gaming | <!--Chipset-->H170 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->Asmedia USB3.1/3.0 | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI Z170A TOMAHAWK | <!--Chipset-->Z170 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sara, 1 x 2280 Key M(PCIe Gen3 x4/SATA), 1 x 2230 Key E(Wi-Fi) | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan | <!--Opinion-->2016 64bit up to i7 7700k - 2 DDR4 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->GIGABYTE GA-B250M-DS3H HD3P D3H D2V | <!--Chipset-->B250 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2018 coffee lake intel 8th gen |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus | <!--Chipset--> with Kaby Lake X Intel 7th Gen | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> up to 16 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus | <!--Chipset--> Z390 with Kaby Lake X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> up to 16 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> Q370M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> H370M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> B360M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Rampage | <!--Chipset-->x299 with i9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> - up to 24 to 44 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte | <!--Chipset--X299 > | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket LGA 1200 (2020/2022)===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->MSI H510M-A PRO (MS-7D22) | <!--Chipset--> with 10th gen Comet Lake X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2021 64bit - up to 16 pcie lanes rebar possible |- | <!--Name-->Asus PRIME H410M-E Asrock H470M-HDV/M.2 | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus | <!--Chipset--> with 11th gen Rocket Lake X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> up to 16 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket LGA 1700 (2023/ )===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Alder Lake / 14th gen Raptor Lake | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2021 2022 64bit - QoS work to 2 level cpus, P down to E cores - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Meteor Lake / 15th gen Arrow Lake | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2023 2024 64bit 10nm - 3 level cpus, Low Power Island (SOC tile) to E onto P cores - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Lunar lake | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2025 64bit 7nm - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} ===Chromebooks=== For most (EOL) cromebooks, the recommended UEFI path forward is to: *put the device into Developer Mode *disable firmware write protection *flash MrChromebox's UEFI Full ROM firmware *install ChromeOS Flex, Linux, etc See [https://mrchromebox.tech/#home MrChrome], [https://mrchromebox.tech MrChrome] and the [https://www.reddit.com/r/chrultrabook/ chrultrabook subreddit] for more info ChromeOS has several different boot modes, which are important to understand in the context of modifying your device to run an alternate OS: *Normal/Verified Boot Mode Can only boot Google-signed ChromeOS images Full verification of firmware and OS kernel No root access to the system, no ability to run Linux or boot other OSes Automatically enters Recovery Mode if any step of Verified Boot fails Default / out-of-the-box setting for all ChromeOS devices *Recovery Mode User presented with Recovery Mode boot screen (white screen with 'ChromeOS is missing or damaged') Boots only USB/SD with signed Google recovery image Automatically entered when Verified Boot Mode fails Can be manually invoked: On Chromebooks, via keystroke: [ESC+Refresh+Power] On Chromeboxes, by pressing a physical recovery button at power-on On Convertibles/Tablets, by holding the Power, Vol+, and Vol- buttons for 10s and then release Allows for transition from Verified Boot Mode to Developer Mode On Chromebooks/Chromeboxes, via keystroke: [CTRL+D] On Convertibles/Tablets, via button press: Vol+/Vol- simultaneously Booting recovery media on USB/SD will repartition/reformat internal storage and reload ChromeOS Note: The ChromeOS recovery process does not reset the firmware boot flags (GBB Flags), so if those are changed from the default, they will still need to be reset for factory default post-recovery. *Developer Mode "Jailbreak" mode built-in to every ChromeOS device Loosened security restrictions, allows root/shell access, ability to run Linux via crouton Verified Boot (signature checking) disabled by default, but can be re-enabled Enabled via [CTRL+D] on the Recovery Mode boot screen Boots to the developer mode boot screen (white screen with 'OS verification is off' text), The user can select via keystroke <pre> ChromeOS (in developer mode) on internal storage ( [CTRL+D] ) ChromeOS/ChromiumOS on USB ( [CTRL+U] ) Legacy Boot Mode ( [CTRL+L] ) </pre> Boot screen displays the ChromeOS device/board name in the hardware ID string (eg, PANTHER F5U-C92, which is useful to know in the context of device recovery, firmware support, or in determining what steps are required to install a given alternate OS on the device. *Legacy Boot Mode Unsupported method for booting alternate OSes (Linux, Windows) via the SeaBIOS RW_LEGACY firmware Accessed via [CTRL+L] on the developer mode boot screen Requires explicit enabling in Developer Mode via command line: sudo crossystem dev_boot_legacy=1 Most ChromeOS devices require a RW_LEGACY firmware update first Boots to the (black) SeaBIOS splash screen; if multiple boot devices are available, prompt shows the boot menu Note: If you hear two beeps after pressing [CTRL+L], then either your device doesn't have a valid Legacy Boot Mode / RW_LEGACY firmware installed, or legacy boot capability has not been been enabled via crossystem. https://www.howtogeek.com/278953/how-to-install-windows-on-a-chromebook/ Chromebooks don’t officially support other OSs. You normally can’t even install as Chromebooks ship with a special type of BIOS designed for Chrome OS. But there are ways to install, if you’re willing to get your hands dirty and potentially ruin everything [https://mrchromebox.tech/#devices Firmware Compatibility] [https://wiki.galliumos.org/Hardware_Compatibility Here is the list of hardware that the GalliumOS supports and information on getting Gallium OS on to those devices] Development on GalliumOS has been discontinued, and for most users, GalliumOS is not the best option for running Linux due to lack of hardware support or a kernel that's out of date and lacking important security fixes. Meet Eupnea and Depthboot, the successors to Galliumos and Breath [https://eupnea-linux.github.io This is the bleeding edge] Most older Chromebooks need the write-protect screw removed in order to install MrChromebox's firmware that allows you to install other operating systems. Most newer Chromebooks don't work in the same way as there is no write-protect screw on them. Very rough guide to '''total''' (i.e. all cores / threads) processor performance (AROS usually uses only the [https://gmplib.org/gmpbench one core]) [[#top|...to the top]] <pre> 060000 AMD Ryzen 9 7900X (AM5 170W) 056000 AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 055000 AMD Ryzen 9 5900X3D 053000 AMD Ryzen 9 5900X (AM4 105W), AMD Ryzen 9 3950X (105W), 049000 AMD Ryzen 9 PRO 7940HS (FP8 65W) 048000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 047000 AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 7840HS (FP7 65W), AMD Ryzen 7 8840HS, AMD Ryzen Z2 Extreme, 045000 AMD Ryzen 9 6900HX, Intel Core i7-12800H 044000 AMD Ryzen 7 5700G (AM4 ), AMD Ryzen 9 6900HS, 043000 Intel Core i5-13500H, AMD Ryzen 5 5600X3D (AM4 95W), AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 5750GE (AM4 35W) 042000 AMD Ryzen 7 5700GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen Z1 Extreme (top TDP), AMD Ryzen 5 8600G, 041500 AMD Ryzen 9 5900HS, Intel Core i7-12700T, AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS (8c16t 45W), AMD 8840U, 041000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800H (FP6 45W), AMD Ryzen 5 5600 (65W), 040000 AMD Ryzen 7 6800U, Intel Core i5-12490F, Intel Core i5-12500E, 039000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800HS (FP6 35W), AMD Ryzen 5 8500G 8600GE, AMD Ryzen Z2 (8c16t), 037000 AMD Ryzen 5 6600H, AMD Ryzen 3 7736U, AMD Ryzen 5 7640U, 036000 AMD Ryzen 5 3600X (95W), AMD Ryzen 5 5500 (AM4 65W), 035000 AMD Ryzen 5 6600U, Intel Core i5-11400F, AMD Ryzen 5 5600H, 034000 AMD Ryzen 7 7730U (FP6 15W 8c16t), AMD Ryzen 5 8540U, AMD Ryzen 4800H, AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 5650GE, 033000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800U (FP6 25W 8c16t), AMD Ryzen 7 4800HS, AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750GE, 032500 AMD Ryzen 7 2700X, AMD Ryzen 5 5600GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen Z1, AMD Ryzen 7 7840U, 032000 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650G (AM4 45W), AMD Ryzen 7 4800U, AMD Ryzen 7 5825U (FP6 8c16t 15W), 031500 AMD Ryzen 5 4500 (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (65W), AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750U (8c16t), 029000 AMD Ryzen 5 4600G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 1700X (AM4 95W), 028500 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 5675U, AMD Ryzen 7 1700 (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 7 2700 (65W), M3 Pro 12c, 028000 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 5650U, AMD Ryzen 5 4400G, AMD Ryzen 5 5560U (FP6 25W 6c12t Zen3), 027000 AMD Ryzen 5 5600U (FP6 25W 6c12t Zen3), 026500 AMD Ryzen 5 4600HS (FP6 35W 6c12t), Apple M1 Pro, AMD Ryzen 5 5625U (FP6 15W 6c12t), 026000 AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 5350GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen 5 2600 (65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3500X (AM4 95W), 024000 AMD Ryzen 5 1600X (95W), AMD Ryzen 3 5300GE, AMD Ryzen 7 5700U (FP6 25W 8c16t Zen2), 023000 AMD Ryzen 3 7330U (FP6 15W 4c8t), AMD Ryzen 7 4700U (FP6 25W 8c8t), AMD Ryzen V3C18I (? 15W), 022000 Intel Core i5-11300H, AMD Ryzen Z2 Go (4c8t), AMD Ryzen 5 5500U (FP6 25W 6c12t Zen2), 020500 AMD Ryzen 3 4300G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 3 5450U 5425U, AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650U (6c12t), 019500 Intel Core i5-1135G7, AMD Ryzen 5 5500H, AMD Ryzen 5 4600U (FP6 25W 6c), 019000 AMD Ryzen 5 3400G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 2500X, AMD Ryzen 5 7520U, 017750 AMD Ryzen 5 3400GE (AM4 35W), Intel Core i5-8400, AMD Ryzen 5 1500X (AM4 65W), 017500 Intel Core i7-6700K, Intel i5-10400, AMD Ryzen 5 4500U (FP6 25W 6c6t), AMD Ryzen 3 5400U, 017000 AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 4350GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen 3 5300U (FP6 25W 4c8t), 016500 AMD Ryzen 7 3750H, AMD Ryzen Embedded V1756B (FP5 45W), AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 4200GE, 016000 AMD Ryzen 5 2400G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3550H, Intel Core i7-6700T, 015000 AMD Ryzen 3 7320U, Ryzen 7 3700U, Ryzen 3200G (AM4 65W), Intel Core i7-8550U, 014000 AMD Ryzen 5 2400GE (AM4 35W), Intel Core i5-8500T, AMD Ryzen 2700U, AMD Ryzen 5 3550U, 013500 AMD Ryzen 5 3500U (FP5 15W 4c8t), AMD Ryzen 3 4300U, AMD Athlon Gold 4150GE, 013250 AMD Ryzen 3 3200GE (AM4 45W), AMD Ryzen 3 1300X (65W), AMD Ryzen 3 2200G, 013000 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 2500U (FP4 25W), AMD Ryzen Embedded V1605B (FP5 25W), 012500 AMD Ryzen 5 2500U (FP5 25W 4c8t), Intel Core i3-8300T, Intel Xeon X5680, 012300 Intel Core i7-8565U, Intel Core i5-8350U, Intel Core i7-8700, 012200 ARM Cortex-X3 Prime Snapdragon SD8G2 Gen2 4nm 64-bit Kryo CPU, 012000 AMD Ryzen 3 2200GE, AMD Ryzen 3 1200 (65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3500C, 011500 AMD Ryzen 3 3300U, Intel Core i3-8100T, Intel Core i5-8265U 010500 AMD Ryzen 3 2300U (FP5 25W 4c4t), 010300 Intel Core i7-3630QM, Intel Core i5-6600T, 010200 Intel Core i5-6440HQ, Intel Core i7-3610QM, 010000 AMD FX-8320E (AM3+ 125W 8c8t), Intel Core i5-7500T, Intel Core i5-4690, 008700 AMD FX-6130 (AM3+ 90W 6c6t), Intel Core i5-7400T, Intel Core i5-4590T, 008600 Intel Core i5-6500T, AMD Athlon 300GE (AM4, 35W), AMD Athlon Gold 7220U, 008500 AMD Ryzen R1606G (FP5 15W), AMD FX-6300 (AM3 65W 6c6t), Intel Core i5-2500K, 008000 AMD Ryzen 3 3200U, AMD Ryzen 3 3250U, Intel Alderlake ULX N100 / N95, i7-7600U, 007200 AMD Ryzen 3 2200U (FP5 25W 2c4t), Intel Core i3-7100T, Intel Twinlakes N150 N200, 006900 AMD Ryzen R1505G (FP5, 15W), Intel Core i7-6600U, Qualcomm Snapdragon 888 5G, 006500 Intel Core i7-6500U, AMD Athlon Gold 3150U, Intel Celeron N5105 (FCBGA1338, 15W), 006300 Intel Core i3-8130 (15W), Intel Celeron N5095 (FCBGA1338 15W), 006100 Intel Core i5-6300U, Intel Core i5-7200U, Snapdragon 7325, Intel i7-5500U, 006060 AMD A10-6800B APU, Intel Core i5-4570T, Intel Core i5-5257U, 006000 Intel Core i5-6200U, Intel Core i3-7130U, Qualcomm Snapdragon 888 4G, Intel i7-4500U, 005900 AMD Athlon Silver 3050U, Intel Xeon X5550, Intel Core i5-4300M, ARM A76 RK3588, 005800 Intel Celeron J4125 J4105 (FCBGA1090 15W), Intel Core i5-3470T, AMD A8-6600K APU, 005600 Intel Core i5-3360M, Intel Core i7-3520M, Intel Core i5-4210M, ARM A76 RK3588S, 005400 ARM Cortex-A78 MediaTek Dimensity 1200 900, AMD Athlon Silver 7120U, Snapdragon 860, 005300 AMD PRO A12-9800B 7th Gen APU (FP4 15W), AMD FX-4300 4c4t, AMD Ryzen R1305G, 005200 AMD PRO A10-8770E, AMD A10-9700E, AMD PRO A10-9700B (FP4 15W), Intel Core i3-4130T, 005100 AMD RX-427BB (FP3 15W), AMD A10-9620P, AMD A12-9720P, Intel Core i5-5350U, Intel Core i3-8145U, 005100 AMD A8-5500 (FM2 65W), AMD A10 PRO-7800B APU, Intel Pentium Silver N5000, 005100 Intel Core i3-7100U (FCBGA1356 15W), Intel Core i7-5500U, Intel Core i3-6100U, 005000 Intel Core i5-5300U, Intel Core i5-3320M, AMD Athlon 300U, 004900 Intel Core i5-4300U, Intel Core i5-5200U, Intel Core i3-4100M, 004860 Intel Core i7-2620M, Intel Core i7-2640M, 004650 Intel Core i5-2520M, Intel Core i5-3210M, AMD A10-9600P (FP4 4c 15W), 004600 AMD PRO A8-9600B, AMD PRO A12-8830B, AMD PRO A10-8730B, AMD A12-9700P, 004400 AMD A10-8700P A8-8600P, Intel Core i5-4200U, Intel Core i5-2540M, 004000 Intel Core i5-2430M, AMD PRO A8-8600B, AMD 3020e, MT6797, 003850 Intel Core i5-2410M, Intel Core i3-2120 (LGA1155 65W), 003800 AMD A10-4600M APU, AMD A10 PRO-7350B APU, AMD A10-5750M APU, 003600 AMD A8-6500T APU, AMD A8-7410 APU, AMD PRO A6-8550B, AMD A8-5550M APU 003500 AMD GX-424CC SOC (FT3b 25W 4c4t), Intel Core i3-4000M, 003450 ARM A75 Unisoc Tiger T610 (8c 5W), 003400 AMD A10-7300 APU, AMD A6-7310 APU, AMD A8-6410, AMD A10-5745M APU 003350 Intel Pentium G2020, Intel Core i3-3120M, AMD R-464L APU, 003300 AMD GX-420CA SOC (FT3 BGA769 25W), AMD A6-9500E, 003200 AMD A6-6310 APU, AMD A6-6400B APU, AMD A6-8570E, AMD A8-4500M APU, AMD A6-7400K APU 003000 AMD A8-7150B, AMD A9-9410 / A9-9425, AMD A6-8500B (FP4 15W), AMD A8-7100, 002900 AMD PRO A6-8530B, AMD A6-8500P, AMD A8-3500M APU, Intel Core i3-2120T, 002700 AMD Embedded GX-420GI (FP4 15W), AMD PRO A6-9500B, AMD GX-415GA, AMD A4-6210 APU, 002600 AMD A6-9225, AMD A8-4555M APU, 002500 AMD A4-5000 APU (FT3 15W), AMD A6-9220, AMD A6-3420M APU, 002450 Intel Celeron 2950M, Intel Pentium N3700, Intel Core i3-2350M, 002400 Intel Celeron N3150, Intel Core i3-2330M, Intel Xeon W3505, 002300 Intel Celeron N3350, AMD A4-9120, AMD A4-9125, Intel Core i3-2310M, 002200 AMD A9-9420e, AMD A6-5350M APU, AMD E2-6110 APU, AMD A6-9210, AMD E2-9000e, 002000 AMD GX-412HC, AMD A4-4300M APU, AMD A6 PRO-7050B APU, AMD A6-4400M APU, AMD A6-7000, 001925 Intel Core2 Duo E6700, Intel Pentium Extreme Edition 965, Intel Core i3-370M, 001750 Intel Core i3-2365M 2375M, AMD A4-9120C, Intel Core2 Duo T8300, AMD E2-3800, Qualcomm MSM8939, 001600 AMD GX-222GC (BGA769 FT3b 15W), AMD A4-9120e, AMD Embedded GX-215JJ, AMD A4-4355M APU, 001550 Intel Core2 Duo SL9400 T7600 T6600, AMD E2-3200, AMD A6-9220e, MT8783, 001500 AMD GX-218GL SOC, AMD A6-4455M, AMD A4-5150M APU, ARM A55 RK3566 (4c 3W), 001400 AMD GX-217GA SOC, ARM Cortex-A53 4c4t H700, Allwinner A133P, AMD A4-3300M APU, 001300 AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-64 TL-62, Intel Core2 Duo T7300, Intel Core2 Duo T5600, 001250 AMD GX-412TC SOC, AMD A4-3320M APU, AMD Athlon 64 X2 QL-66, Intel Core2 Duo T7200 001200 AMD Athlon 64 X2 2c TK-57, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-60 RM-74, AMD E1-2500 APU 001150 Intel Core2 Duo T5550, Intel Core2 Duo L7500, AMD E2-3000M APU, ARM A35 RK3266, 001100 Intel Core2 Duo T5300, AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800, Intel Core2 Duo E4300, MT8127, 001050 AMD E1-6010 APU, Intel Pentium T4300, 001050 AMD Athlon 64 FX-57, AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core TK-55, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-52 001000 Intel Core2 Duo T5500, Intel Core2 Duo L7300, Intel Core2 Duo SU9400, 000950 AMD G-T56N, AMD Athlon 64 3100+, AMD E2-2000 APU, 000950 AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-50, AMD E1-2200 APU, Intel Celeron U3400, 000925 AMD TurionX2 Dual Core Mobile RM-72, AMD Sempron 140 000920 Intel Celeron SU2300, Intel Core2 Duo T5200, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-56 000890 AMD E2-1800 APU, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-58 000880 AMD G-T56E, AMD G-T48E, 000860 AMD E-450 APU, AMD E-350 APU, AMD Athlon LE-1620 000820 AMD A4-1250 APU, AMD Athlon LE-1600, 000810 AMD E1-2100 APU, Intel Core Duo T2500, 000810 Intel Atom D510, Intel Core2 Duo U7500, 000800 AMD Geode NX 2400+, AMD Turion 64 Mobile ML-42, AMD Athlon II Neo K325, 000760 AMD V140, AMD E1-1200 APU, AMD Athlon 64 3300+, 000730 Intel Core Duo T2400, AMD Turion 64 Mobile MK-38, AMD Sempron 3600+, 000700 Intel Core2 Duo U7600 U7700, AMD Sempron LE-1200, AMD V120 000680 AMD GX-212JC SOC, AMD E-300 APU, AMD A4-1200 APU, 000670 AMD Turion 64 Mobile MK-36 ML-37 ML-40, Mobile AMD Sempron 3800+ 000640 Intel Atom N2600, Intel Atom N570, Mobile AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 000640 Intel Core Duo T2300, Intel Core Duo T2050, 000630 VIA Eden X2 U4200, AMD Sempron LE-1100, AMD Sempron 3100+ 3600+, 000620 AMD C-70 C70 APU, Intel Atom 330, AMD G-T40N, AMD Athlon Neo MV-40, 000610 Intel Core2 Duo U7300, AMD Athlon II Neo K125 K145, 000600 Intel Atom N550, Intel Pentium 4, AMD Athlon 64 2800+, 000580 AMD C-60 C60, AMD G-T40E, AMD Sempron LE-1250 000530 AMD C-50 C50, Intel Celeron M 723, AMD Sempron 210U, 000490 AMD GX-210JA SOC, PowerPC 970 G5 IBM's 970 server CPU (2c), 000470 Mobile AMD Sempron 3500+, Mobile AMD Athlon XP-M 2200+, 000460 AMD Athlon XP 2500+, AMD Sempron 3500+, Mobile Intel Pentium 4, 000440 Intel Atom D425, Intel Atom N470, POWER 4 PPC, 000410 Intel Pentium M, Intel Celeron M, AMD Sempron 2300+ 000400 Intel Atom N450, AMD Sempron 2400+, 000340 Intel Atom D410, AMD G-T52R, AMD C-30, AMD Sempron 2200+ 000330 Intel Atom N455, Intel Atom N280, Intel Atom N270 (1c1t 2W), Intel P3, 000320 Freescale NXP QorIQ P1022 000310 PowerPC G4 7447 1Ghz (1c1t 15W), PPC440 core, 000230 PowerPC PPC G3/PPC 750, 000160 Pentium II, Motorola 68060 000080 Intel 80486, Motorola 68030, 000040 Intel 80386, 000030 Motorola 68020 000008 Motorola 68000 </pre> === Recommended hardware (32-bit) === [[#top|...to the top]] Recommended hardware is hardware that has been tested with latest release of AROS and is relatively easy to purchase second hand (ie. ebay). This hardware also comes with commitment that compatibility will be maintained with each future release. If in future decision will be made to drop any of the recommended hardware from the list (for example due to it no longer being available for purchase), such hardware will move to list of legacy supported systems and will have an indicated end of life date so that users have time to switch to other hardware. {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" | <!--OK-->{{Yes|'''Works well'''}} || <!--Not working-->{{No|'''Does not work'''}} || <!--Not applicable-->{{N/A|'''N/A not applicable'''}} |- |} ==== Virtual Hardware ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | VirtualBox 7.x (Other/Unknown template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|PCNET32<br/>E1000}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- | VMware 16+ (Other32 template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|PCNET32}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- | QEMU 8.x ("pc" and "q35" machines) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|PCNET32}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- |} ==== Laptops ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | ACER Aspire One ZG5 || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(IDE)}} || {{Yes|GMA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|RTL8169}} || {{Yes|ATHEROS}} || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- | Dell Latitude D520 || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{Yes|GMA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|BCM4400}} || {{No|}} || {{Yes|Atheros AR5BXB63}} || * select Intel Core 2 64-bit version, not Celeron 32-bit version <br/> * replace WiFi card to get wireless working |- |} ==== Desktop Systems ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | Fujitsu Futro S720 || {{Yes|SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * no 2D/3D acceleration<br/> * use USB ports at back |- |} ==== Motherboards ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | ASUS P8Z68V LX || {{Yes|SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * add external PCIe video card for better performance |- | Gigabyte GA-MA770T UD3/UD3P || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * requires external PCIe video card |- | ASUS M2N68-AM SE2 || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{Yes|NVIDIA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|NVNET}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * connecting a disk via SATA connector is not supported at this time <br/> * add external PCIe video card for better performance |- | Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2H || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * add external PCIe video card for better performance |- |} ==== Legacy supported hardware ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="10%" |EOL ! width="35%" |Comments |- | iMica || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{Yes|GMA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || 2026-12-31 || |- | Gigabyte GA-MA770 UD3 || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(IDE)}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || 2026-12-31 || * requires external PCIe video card |- |} === Recommended hardware (64-bit) === [[#top|...to the top]] Recommended hardware is hardware that has been tested with latest release of AROS and is relatively easy to purchase second hand (ie. ebay). This hardware also comes with commitment that compatibility will be maintained with each future release. ==== Virtual Hardware ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | VirtualBox 7.x (Other/Unknown (64-bit) template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|PCNET32<br/>E1000}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- | VMware 16+ (Other64 template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|E1000}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- | QEMU 8.x ("pc" and "q35" machines) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|PCNET32}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- |} ==== Motherboards ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | ASUS P8Z68V LX || {{Yes|SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- |} ==References== [[#top|...to the top]] {{reflist}} {{BookCat}} ia1ccoun46fo41s0dca48k7kzi7525m 4520792 4520790 2025-07-01T16:41:17Z Jeff1138 301139 4520792 wikitext text/x-wiki {{ArosNav}} ==Introduction== This a list of computer hardware tested with mostly native AROS installs and, in the recommended sections, of virtual machines With 64bit support it is recommended 8Gb ram is needed and that SSE 4.1 and AVX are supported in the CPU i.e. from year 2012 for Intel CPUs and 2013 for AMD CPUs. They are x86-64 instruction sets designed to perform the same operations on multiple data items simultaneously, a technique known as Single Instruction, Multiple Data (SIMD). This allows for increased performance in tasks involving parallel computation. SSE 4.1 is a 128-bit SIMD instruction set, while AVX introduced 256-bit SIMD, further enhancing performance. Some apps require these features to run well, like 3D, multimedia decoding or JIT (javascript) in Odyssey web browser. If not the apps may work slower or might fail. If you have encountered differently (i.e. problems, incompatibilities, faults, niggles, annoyances, environment, errors, review of setup etc) please update this information. Please bear in mind that AROS has only a few hardware driver developers, whilst Linux counts in the tens and Windows in the hundreds. So consequently, be aware that driver support on native is now a decade behind linux, MacOS(TM) and Windows(TM). Although still being worked upon Alternatively, an hosted OS (windows or linux) of AROS could give better results. [[#Laptops]] [[#Netbook]] [[#Desktop Systems]] [[#Recommended hardware (32-bit)]] [[#Recommended hardware (64-bit)]] === Laptops === [[#top|...to the top]] * 2006/2007 Dell Latitude D-series laptops - business class machines, good support in Aros, easy to replace wifi card * 2006 some [https://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/laptops-portable-pcs/laptops-and-netbooks/toshiba-satellite-pro-a200-28550/review Satellite Pro A200] * 2008 For the tiny carry anywhere, the early run of Acer Aspire netbooks Rough estimate from taking a random laptop notebook what you can expect from a Native install of AROS {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Date ! width="5%" |Overall ! width="5%" |Gfx VESA ! width="5%" |Gfx 2D Acceleration ! width="10%" |Gfx 3D Acceleration ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Before 2002 || Poor to OK || VESA 90% || 2D 10% || {{N/A}} || Audio 10% || 40% || Wired 70% || 2% || Max RAM 512MB |- | 2002-2005 || OK || VESA 95% || 2D 10% || 3D 0% || Audio 30% || 70% || Wired 50% || 4% || Max RAM 1GB |- | 2005-2012 || Good || VESA 98% || 2D 60% || 3D 30% || Audio 60% || 80% || Wired 30% || 10% || Max RAM 2 / 4GB |- | 2013-2017 || OK || VESA 98% || 2D 10% || 3D 0% || Audio 20% || 60% || Wired 20% || 0% || Max RAM 8GB / 16GB |- | 2018-2025 || Poor || VESA 98% || 2D 0% || 3D 0% || Audio 0% || 0% || Wired 20% || 0% || Max RAM 32GB |- | 202X-202x || Poor || VESA 95% || 2D 0% || 3D 0% || Audio 0% || 0% || Wired 10% || 0% || Max RAM 64GB |- |} 3D tests now conducted with apps found in Demos/AROS/Mesa and run at default size (may need to View As -> Show All to see them. Any laptop with Windows 7(TM) 64bit or higher install, the bios and hard drive set in uefi/gpt mode (install of AROS incompatible) Most vendor suppliers get OEM (original equipment manufacturers) to make their laptops. These brand name companies purchase their laptops from *80% ODM (Original Design Manufacturer) such as Quanta, Compal, Wistron, Inventec, Foxconn (Hon Hai), Flextronics and Asus (now Pegatron) *20% MiTAC, FIC, Arima, Uniwill, ECS, Tonfang Origin and Clevo {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" | <!--OK-->{{Yes|'''Works well'''}} || <!--May work-->{{Maybe|'''Works a little'''}} || <!--Not working-->{{No|'''Does not work'''}} || <!--Not applicable-->{{N/A|'''N/A not applicable'''}} |- |} ====Acer/Gateway/Emachines==== Company founded under the name of Multitech in Taiwan in 1976, renamed to Acer or Acer Group in 1987 Order of build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Packard Bell Aspire Extensa TimeLine Travelmate </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="2%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Travelmate 505 506 507 508 Series || <!--Chipset-->P2 Celeron 466Mhz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes|boots}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Neo Magic Magic Graph 128XD (NM2160)}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 Crystal CS}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 minimal support but no audio etc - 506T, 506DX, 507T, 507DX, 508T |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 340 342 343 345 347 || <!--Chipset-->ALi M1621 with piii || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Trident Cyber 9525 || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1969 Solo-1}} || <!--USB-->2 ALi OHCI USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->a few have Intel e100 || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2000 32bit - 340T, 341T, 342T, 342TV, 343TV, 345T, 347TV |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 350 351 352 353 || <!--Chipset-->Ali with piii || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Trident Cyber Blade DSTN/Ai1 || <!--Audio-->{{No|ali5451}} || <!--USB-->2 USB 1.1 Ali M5237 OHCI || <!--Ethernet-->e100 || <!--Wireless-->Acer InviLink IEEE 802.11b || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit very limited support but no support for PCMCIA O2 Micro OZ6933 - 350T, 351TEV, 352TEV, 353TEV |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 610 series 611 612 613 614 || <!--Chipset-->815 P3 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 82815 cgc || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->Intel e100 pro || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit - 610TXVi 610T 611TXV 612TX 613TXC |- | Aspire 3003LM || SIS AMD 3000 1.8GHz || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SIS AGP M760GX (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97 SIS codec}} || 3 USB 2.0 || {{yes|SIS900}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4318 AirForce One 54g}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 sempron |- | Travelmate 2310 Series ZL6 || Intel Celeron M 360 1.4GHz with SiS 661MX || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SiS Mirage M661MX (VESA only)}} || {{yes|SIS SI7012 AC97 with realtek ALC203 codec speakers only}} || || {{yes|SIS900}} || {{N/A|LM version has pci card slot but no antenna}} || Icaros 2.1.1 || 2004 32bit - No USB boot option but boot from DVD - reports of wifi losing connection (isolate/remove the metallic grounding foil ends of the antennas) - 2312LM_L - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 3000 3002LMi 3500 5000 || <!--Chipset-->AMD CPU W-with SIS M760 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->SIS 760 || <!--Audio-->SIS || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->SIS 900 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4318 swap for Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 3050 5020 5050 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Single and Turion MK-36 Dual and RS480 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - RS482M Xpress 1100 or RS485M Xpress 1150 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio Realtek ALC883 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5006G or Broadcom BCM 4318 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit MK36 gets very hot |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 2410 2420 2430 series || <!--Chipset-->915GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel Mobile 915GMS 910GML || <!--Audio-->Intel AC97 ICH6 with ALC203 codec || <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL-8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5005GS || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 2428AWXMi - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 3610 - WISTRON MORAR 3614WLMI || <!--Chipset-->Intel 915 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 2D and 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|[http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=644066&postcount=13 AC97]}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL 8139 8139C+}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros AR5001X+, AR5BMB5 or Broadcom 4318}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.2.4 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit with good support [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6205188#post6205188 wifi issues] |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 2480 series 2483 WXMi (HannStar J MV4 94V) 2483NWXCi Aspire 3680, 3690 || <!--Chipset-->940GML i943 with Celeron 430 1.77GHz - 14.1" || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D and 3D openGL 1.x - Tunnel 181 gearbox 104 scores}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC883 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|3 USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8038 yukon sky2}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 5k AR5005G AR5BMB5 mini pci}} suspect laptop hardware issues || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 Works well shame about the internet options - noisy fan - poor battery life - no boot option for TI based mass storage sd card - Max 2GB memory - LCD Inverter Board IV12090/T-LF - |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 2490 series 2492WXMi || <!--Chipset-->940GML || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 945 2D and 3D tunnel 164 gearbox 105}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR5005GS suspect hardware issue}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit - 15inch screen - strange curved up at ends keyboard style - overall plastic construction - Atheros AR5005G(s) - |- | <!--Name-->Gateway ML6227B MA7 || <!--Chipset-->Celeron M 520 1.6Ghz with 945GM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|945GM 2D and 3D tunnel 169 gearbox 132}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDA Intel with STAC9250 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8038}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|8187L but swap ath5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 15.4 ultrabrite widescreen - Wifi Switch on side Fn/F2 - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 5630-6796 6288 BL50 || <!--Chipset-->T5200 T5500 Intel® Core™2 Duo T7200 T7400 T7600 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel® GMA 950 with S-Video out}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 USB}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom BCM4401}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945abg swap for Atheros 5K}} || <!--Test Distro-->Tiny AROS || <!--Comments-->2006 - 64bit 39.1 cm (15.4" 1280 x 800) - 2 DDR2-SDRAM slots max 4GB - green mobo?? - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 5633WMLI BL51 || <!--Chipset-->T5500 with Intel® 945PM/GM Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia Go 7300}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with Realtek codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom 440x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 swap for Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Tiny Aros || <!--Comments-->2007 64 bit dual core2 - 15.4 WXGA screen - ddr2 max 4gb - OrbiCam no support - ENE chipset SD card - blue mobo?? - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 9410 9420 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core Duo with 945PM Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300 - 128 MB VRAM G72M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel HD audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 8111 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945ABG but could swap with atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - 17in TFT 1,440 x 900 WXGA+ - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->eMachines E510 series KAL10 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Celeron M 560 2.13Ghz with PM965 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel x3100 || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel with codec}} || <!--USB-->Intel || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5906M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros G AR5BXB63 bios issue??}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2007 32bit very budget machine with InsydeH20 bios and F10 boot menu |- | <!--Name-->ACER Aspire 5920 5920G || <!--Chipset-->Santa Rosa Core 2 Duo T7300 T7500 later T9300 with GM965 and PM965(G) Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for X3100M or 8600M GS (rev a1) 9500M GT 256MB vram (G) but some AMD/ATI RV635 M86 HD 3650}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with realtek alc888 codec ICH8}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5787M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945ABG 4965 or Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro-->Deadwood test iso 2023-01 2023-11 || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit boot with 'noacpi' or 'noioapic' - 15.4in 1280 x 800 pixels 16:10 - BMW Designworks ‘Gemstone’ design - over 3.0kg with options for 8-cell or 6-cell batteries - 2 SODIMM DDR2 667MT/s max 4GB - synaptics touchpad - |- | <!--Name-->Acer A0521 Ao721 || Athlon II Neo K125 + AMD M880G || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{maybe|ATI Radeon HD 4225 (VESA only)}} || {{No|Conexant}} || {{Maybe}}|| {{no|AR8152 l1c}} || {{no|AR9285 ath9k}} || AspireOS 1.7 || 2006 64bit possible |- | <!--Name--> Extensa 5630Z || <!--Chipset-->T6600 with Intel GL40 Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Yes|Intel GMA 4500M HD (2D)}} || <!--Audio--> {{Yes|HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> {{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet--> {{No|Broadcom BCM 5764M}} || <!--Wireless--> {{No|RaLink RT2860}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit |- |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 5250 series 5253 BZ400 BZ602 || <!--Chipset-->E350 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{no|VESA 2D for AMD HD6310}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDaudio for codec Conexant CX20584}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8151}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros 9k AR5B97}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire V5 V5-121 V5121 AO725 One 725 || <!--Chipset-->AMD C-70 C70 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{no|VESA for AMD 6290G}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|Realtek ALC269 codec}} || <!--USB-->2 x USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire V5-122P MS2377 || <!--Chipset-->C-70 C70 with M55, AMD A4-1250 or A6 1450 up to 1.4Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->AMD 8210 || <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec || <!--USB-->FCH USB EHCI OHCI || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169 but LAN/VGA Combo Port Cable (AK.LAVGCA 001) or MiniCP port to Acer Converter Cable (Mini CP to VGA/LAN/USB) (NP.OTH11 00C) needed}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros 9k AR9565}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aros One || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit but no sse4 or avx - 26w battery internal, extension possible - 11.6in 1366 x 768 ips touchscreen - 7mm hd ssd - 2gb ddr3l soldered with 1 slot free max 4GB - bios hacking needed for virtualisation - |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell EasyNote TE69 TE69KB 522 || <!--Chipset-->slow E1-2500, E2-3800 2c2t Dual or A4-5000 4c4t Quad both soldered BGA769 (FT3) on Hudson-2 FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Use IDE mode}} setting AHCI to IDE mode - boots if UEFI set to Legacy || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for ATI Radeon 8120 8240, 8320, 8330 or 8280 islands}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AMD Azalia HD Audio with ALC282 0x10ec0282 codec but not HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|Bios, Boot, set Boot mode to Legacy, nothing from USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8171 AR8175 or Broadcom BCM57780}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9565 0x1969 0x10a1}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aspire OS Xenon and AROS One 1.6 usb || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit with sse4.1 and AVX - 15.6in washed out screen big netbook - Boots with noacpi after using F2 to enter EFI firmware and f12 boot device - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots max 16Gb - |- | <!--Name-->ASPIRE Acer Aspire ES1-520 521 522 Series N15C4 ES1-523 || <!--Chipset-->AMD AMD E1-7010, A8-7410 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA for RADEON R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|Realtek ALC 233 or CX20752 HD AUDIO CODEC}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8151 Gigabit or Broadcom 590x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek RTL8187 or 8812BU}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aros One || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit with sse4.1 and AVX - 2 ddr3l slots - keyboard connected to top case - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 3, 5 A515-44-R0ZN || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 4500u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in or 15.6" 1080p - 19v round charging - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr0tC3QJWxk repair], 4gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Swift 3 SF314-43, Swift SF315-41 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 7 5700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 1080p - small round ac or usb-c - |- | <!--Name-->Swift 3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Asus==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Asus L8400-K Medion MD9467 || <!--Chipset-->Intel desktop 850MHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->S3 Savage MX || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS allegro 1988}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Asus L2000 L2400 L2D Series Medion 9675 || <!--Chipset-->Athlon 4 mobile || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use vesa sis630 || <!--Audio-->{{No|sis7018}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->sis900 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->x51R X51RL || <!--Chipset-->Duo T2250 T2330 with RS480 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|boots and detects}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL-8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR5006EG AR5111 ath5k AzureWave AW-GE780 - could be ATI Chipset}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2, deadwood 2021, || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit 15.4 WXGA - 19v barrel - ESC boot select - F2 bios - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Asus R2H Ultra Mobile PC UMPC || <!--Chipset-->Celeron 900Mhz 910GML || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA900 || <!--Audio-->Ac97 ALC880 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8169 8101e || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm4fOrqyj3g boots] |- | <!--Name-->Asus A3 series A3F Ergo Ensis 211 RM || <!--Chipset-->P-M 1.6GHz to Core Duo with 950 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945 || <!--Audio-->Ac97 ALC655 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8100CL 10/100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit only |- | <!--Name-->Z33 || <!--Chipset-->915 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->915GM || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC880 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 2915ABG || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit Z33A Z33AE N5M N5A |- | Z70A Z70V Z70Va M6A z7000 z7000a || i915 + ICH6 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|mobile 915GML}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|ICH6 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Marvell 88E8001}} || {{no|Intel PRO 2200BG Fn / F2}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2005 32bit |- | [http://www.progweb.com/en/2010/09/linux-sur-un-portable-asus-a6jm/ A6jm] A6JC || 945GM || IDE || SATA || {{yes|nVidia GeForce Go 7600 G70}} || {{no|HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|RTL8111 8168B}} || {{no|Intel 3945 ABG}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2006 32bit only |- | <!--Name-->F3Jc || <!--Chipset-->945PM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->G72M Quadro NVS 110M, GeForce Go 7300 || <!--Audio-->D audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8169 8111 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->X50GL F5GL || <!--Chipset-->T5800 with 965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA 2d - Nvidia 8200M G84 runs hot}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio MCP79 with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|MCP79}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR5B91 AW-NE77}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2 || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit not much support no display with nouveau - 19v barrel - ddr2 max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS G50 & G51 series G50V G50Vt G51V G51VX G51J G51Jx G50VT X1 X5 ROG || <!--Chipset-->AMD64 with MCP71 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} || <!--Gfx-->nVidia GeForce 9800M GS (G94M) up to GT200 [GeForce GTX 260M] (G92M) || <!--Audio-->Nvidia HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros L1C atl1c}} || <!--Wireless-->Atheros G or Intel || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit not all GPUs are failing but a much higher % failing early, 8x00 and 9x00 G84, G86, G92, G94, and G96 series chips dying - ddr2 max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->M50V M50 series || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core 2 Duo P8400 or T9400 with Intel PM45 ICH9 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|BIOS set to compatibility IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GS or 9650M GT || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC663 || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 realtek 8169 8111C}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 5100 or Atheros AR928X}}|| <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.0 USB || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit - 15.40 inch 16:10, 1680 x 1050 glossy - the "Infusion" design - heavy 3kg - ddr2 ram max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->Series F9 F9E F9dc F9f F9j F9s || <!--Chipset-->965GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Vesa}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio ALC660 playback}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|works}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|intel 3495 not working}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.41 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit - ddr2 max 4gb - |- | P52F SO006X || i3-370M || IDE || SATA || {{yes|nVidia G92 [GeForce 9800 GT] (2D)}} || {{no|Intel HD Audio}} || {{yes|2 USB2.0}} || {{no|Atheros AR8121 AR8113 AR8114 (l1e)}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2010 64bit - ddr3 slot - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Asus * X53U MB Ver K53U or K52U Asus K53U MB Ver K53U * A53U XT2 X53B MB ver: K53BY (compal) || <!--Chipset-->Slow atom like speed E-350 (2011), E-450 (2011) on AMD M780G, much slower C-50 C50 (2012), C-60 C60 on the AMD A50M dark brown plastic build || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|Set IN Bios IDE MODE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA ATi 6310M, 6320M later 6250M or 6290M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with alc269 codec Altec Lansing® Speakers}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|3 x USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|rtl8169 with RTL8111 phy}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros half height ar9285 cannot swap with ar5000 mini pci-e as smaller card required}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 and AROS One 1.6 USB || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6in 1368 x 768 dull 50% srgb screen - f2 bios setup, esc boot drive - 5200 or 7800 mAh battery covers ASUS K53S K53E X54C X53S K84L X53SV X54HR K53F X53U laptops - 2 DDR3L slots max 8Gb - 19v barrel 5.5 / 2.5 mm - |- | <!--Name-->Asus K53T, Asus A53Z X53Z || <!--Chipset-->AMD A4-3305M on AMD M780G, A6-3420M dark brown plastic build || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|Set IN Bios IDE MODE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD 6520G, 7670M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|3 x USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 with RTL8111 phy}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros half height}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6in 1368 x 768 dull 50% srgb screen - f2 bios setup, esc boot drive - 2 DDR3L slots max 8Gb - 19v barrel 5.5 / 2.5 mm - Altec Lansing® Speakers - |- | <!--Name-->X55U X401U X501U 1225B || <!--Chipset-->slow C-60 C60, C-70 C70 or E1 1200 E2 1800 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->6290G || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9485 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6" display - ram soldered - |- | <!--Name-->Asus A43TA A53TA K53TA XE2 A73T || <!--Chipset-->AMD A4-3300M, A6 3400M (laptop chip) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|Set IN Bios IDE MODE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA AMD Radeon HD 6520G Integrated + HD 6470M (1GB GDDR3)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - f2 bios setup, esc boot drive - |- | <!--Name-->X102BA || <!--Chipset-->Llano E1 1200 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|ide bios setting}} || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 8180 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 10.1” Touchscreen - special asus 45w ac adapter - |- | <!--Name-->K55N, K75DE || <!--Chipset-->AMD a6 4400M A8 4500M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD 7640G || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC codec none through ATi Trinity HDMI || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9485 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 17.3-inch - |- | <!--Name-->X452EA X552EA F552E || <!--Chipset-->AMD E1 2100 or A4 5000M A8 4500M A10 4600M with A || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for AMD ATI Sun XT Radeon HD 8330 8670A 8670M 8690M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AMD FCH Azalia rev 02 with ALC898 codec}} || <!--USB-->USB3 with USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{{Yes|Realtek RTL8111 8168 8411}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9485}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit may support avx kabini trinity - |- | <!--Name-->Asus X555Y - keyboard from Asus X555B X555D X555L X555S X555U X555Y X555LA fits? silver-colored plastic || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-7210 A8-7410 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk }} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for AMD R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->Realtek || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr3 slot - silver-colored plastic - internal battery - |- | <!--Name-->Asus X555D || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-8700P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for AMD R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr3 slot - silver-coloured plastic - internal battery - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS X555Q || <!--Chipset-->AMD® Bristol Ridge A10-9600P 7th Gen, A12-9720p || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->R5 + Radeon™ R6 M435DX Dual Graphics with VRAM GCN 3 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8821AE || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - FHD 15.6 1920x1080 - 37W battery internal - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr3 slot - internal battery - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M509ba || <!--Chipset-->AMD A9-9425 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->RADEON R5 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot max 16Gb - 19VDC 2.37A Max 45W 4.0mm x 1.35mm - keyboard swap problematic - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset-->AMD || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVme || <!--Gfx-->AMD || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS Vivibook M509DA X509DA M509DJ M509DL or M409DJ M409DA X409DA M409BA || <!--Chipset-->AMD® Ryzen™ 2c Athlon Silver 3050U 3200U, 4c AMD® Ryzen™ 5 3500U 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->{{No|nvme}} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for AMD Vega 5 8 or nvidia MX230 MX250}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS one || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14" or 15" transparent Silver Slate Grey - 4 or 8g soldered and 1 ddr4 sodimm slot max 8g - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ExpertBook P1410, ASUS ExpertBook P1 P1510CD || <!--Chipset-->3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit 14in or 15.6in - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ZenBook UM431DA, Vivobook X515DA M515DA, VivoBook X512DA M512DA, || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3500u 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVme || <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega 8 or 10 || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14" 1080p - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Zenbook 14 UM433, UM425IA, Vivobook M413DA || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 4500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in 1080p - asus round ac - |- | <!--Name-->Vivobook X513, Asus Vivobook 15 M513 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 5500U, 7 5700u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme and might have 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - round asus ac - |- | <!--Name-->Zenbook Flip 14 || <!--Chipset-->AMD R7 6800H || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 14inch 1080p - |- | <!--Name-->Vivobook Go 15 E1504FA || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 7320U, AMD Ryzen 5 7520U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio for codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No| USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ==== Dell ==== [[#top|...to the top]] Order of build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Studio Inspiron Vostro XPS Alienware Precision Latitude </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="10%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Latitude CP 233GT, CPi d233xt d266xt D300XT a366xt, CPt S400GT S500GT S550GT S600GT S700ST, CPt C333GT C400GT || <!--Chipset-->Neo Magic || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - Neo magic Magic Media 2160 2360 256ZX || <!--Audio-->{{No|crystal pnp 4237b or magic media 256zx sound nm2360}} || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit Low-Density 16-chip 144p 144-pin 32Mx64 3.3V SODIMM - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Latitude CPx H450GT H500GT H Series, CPt V433GT V466GT V600, Inspiron 5000 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 440BX with Pentium 3M (CPx) or Celeron (CPt) || <!--IDE-->{{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use Vesa - ATi Rage Pro Mobility M1}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1978 Maestro 2E Canyon 3D}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|1 slot 1.1 only}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Test Distro-->NB May 2013 || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit - 3 pin PA-6 PA6 power adapter plug - CDROM DVD Cxxx family media bay accessories untested |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C500 C600 (Quanta TM6) Inspiron 4000 7500, CPx J Series || <!--Chipset-->440BX ZX/DX || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|ATI Rage 128Pro Mobility M3 (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|ES1983S Maestro 3i}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 1.1 only}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A|some models had mini pci e100}}|| <!--Wireless-->{{N/A|a few came with internal antenna wiring}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->1999 square 3 pin charger PA9 PA-9 - C/Dock II untested - C/Port untested - Parallel to Floppy cable untested - CPx J600GT J650GT J700GT J750GT J800GT J850GT |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C510 C610 Insprion 4100 PP01L 2600 || <!--Chipset-->i830 and 1GHz+ P3-M || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|use VESA - ATI Radeon Mobility M6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 CS4205}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|3Com Etherlink}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|internal antenna wiring for an Atheros mini pci card}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2000 poor build quality - hard to find in good working order |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C400 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 830 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Intel 830 CGC}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ac97 Crystal 4205}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|3Com 3c905C TX/TX-M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2000 Slim for the time - no media bays |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C640 (Quanta TM8) C840 Inspiron 8k2 8200 i8200 precision m50 || <!--Chipset-->P4M with 845EP || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA if ATi - use nouveau if 64mb Nvidia Gforce 4 440 Go || <!--Audio-->AC97 CS4205 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->3com 905c || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 C640 had one fan so was noisy and hot - C840 had 2 fans and ran slightly cooler but fan noise louder |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | Latitude D400 || P-M 82845 || {{yes|82801 ide}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|VESA only}} || {{yes|AC97 Audio playback only}} || {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || {{maybe|PRO 100 VM (KM)}} || {{no|BCM4318 AirForce one 54g replace with atheros 5k mini pci}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit might boot from USB stick but won't boot from USB-DVD - no sd card slot - power plug style - |- | Latitude D500 / D505 PP10L, Inspiron 510m || 855GME * revA00 * revA03 * revA06 | {{yes|IDE but needs the Dell adapter}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|855GM Gfx (VESA only)}} || {{Yes|Intel AC97 with IDT STAC 9750 codec playback head phones only}} || {{maybe| }} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VE}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4306 but exchange with atheros g in panel on laptop bottom}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || 2003 - 14 / 15 inch XGA 4:3 screen - plastic build - no sd card slot - boots from bay optical drive - not powering on/off with ac adapter is a [http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=37&topicid=30585 mobo fault of PC13 SMT 1206 ceramic cap hot] suggest [http://www.die4laser.com/D505fix/ 0.1uF 50V instead] - pc2700 333Mhz ram 1Gb max - |- | Latitude D505 (some) || VIA VT8237 VX700 || {{yes|IDE}} || || {{partial|VESA 2d on ATI RV350 Radeon 9550}} || {{no|VIA AC97 with codec}} || {{maybe|VIA USB glitchy}} || {{yes|VIA VT6102 Rhine-II}} || {{no|Intel 2200g Calexico2}} || <!--Test Distro--> || 2003 32bit little support - diagnostics pressing holding the Fn key, press the Power ON button (battery removed). Check the LEDs pattern - cmos battery behind flap in laptop battery slot - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1000 || <!--Chipset-->SIS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use VESA SIS}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 SIS with AD1981B codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|SIS 900 but}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit [https://forum.level1techs.com/t/my-time-with-icaros-desktop-and-what-i-am-doing-as-a-dev-contributor-also-some-other-shit/113358 aremis using it] |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1100 PP07L || <!--Chipset-->845 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Intel 845G}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC'97 playback}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom 4401}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2004 |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 8500 5150 || <!--Chipset-->P4 855GM || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia 5200 Go - VESA if intel gfx}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|MCP AC97 with SigmaTel 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom 440x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4306 rev 02 use Atheros Mini PCI}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit P4 runs well but hot |- | Latitude X300 PP04S small, slim and light case || 855GME * revA00 Intel ULV 1.2 Ghz * revA01 Intel ULV 1.4Ghz | {{yes|IDE internal and will boot cd/dvd through dock PR04S}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|855GM Gfx (VESA only)}} || {{Yes|Intel AC97 with STAC 97xx codec but no audio out of the dock}} || {{maybe|works but dock usb ports and usb DVD PD01S not detected}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM5705M gigabit}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4306 later intel - replace with atheros in the underside}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1, AROS One 1.6 usb, || 2003 12.1" 1024 x 768 - 19.5v PA-10 or PA-12 dell - ACPI works but bad s3 ram suspend sleep - no sd card boot - 1Gb max sodimm ddr 2700 |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D600 (Quanta JM2) PP05L - 600m || <!--Chipset-->82855 PM i855 * reva00 * revA01 * revA02 * revA03 * revA04 | <!--IDE--> {{yes}} || <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA - ATI Radeon RV250 Mobility FireGL 9000}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 - STAC 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5705}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 2100 or Broadcom BCM4306 - swap for Atheros panel in base}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.3 and [http://www.amiga.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-62187.html 1.4.1 and 2.1.1] || <!--Opinion-->2003 32bit 14inch using pc2100 memory with Caps light blinking is usually a memory error - Dell D505 D600 power up pressing the case docking port - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D600 (Quanta JM2) || <!--Chipset-->82855 PM i855 || <!--IDE--> {{yes}} || <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D only vidia NV28 GeForce4 Ti 4200 Go 5200 Go 5650 Go}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 - STAC 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5705}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom BCM4306 mini pci - swap for Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.3 and [http://www.amiga.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-62187.html 1.4.1] || <!--Opinion-->2003 32bit 14" - solder joints on the bios chip (press down f7/f8 keys) - RAM clean with eraser - memory cover plate maybe apply some pressure - |- | <!--Name-->D800 (Compal LA-1901) || <!--Chipset-->Intel 855 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom 570x || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom 4309 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - trackpoint type pointing device - |- | <!--Name-->D800 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 855 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{No|Nvidia }} || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom 570x || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom 4309 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit 15inch 39cm |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1200 2200 PP10S Latitude 110L m350 1.3Ghz || <!--Chipset-->Intel 915GM || <!--IDE--> {{yes|UDMA boots cd or DVD and installs to HDisk}} || <!--SATA--> {{N/A}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA900 (2D and 3D openGL 1.x) Gearbox 56}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 playback only}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Intel PRO 100 VE}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|BroadCom BCM4318 - swap for Atheros mini PCI in base panel}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.5 || <!--Comments-->2005 single core 32bit 14" 4:3 1024 768 XGA screen - heavy 6 lbs - PA16 barrel 19V 3.16A AC adapter - battery life 4cell 29WHr lasts 2 hours - 256mb soldered with 1 ddr pc2100 sodimm 1gb max - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1300 business B130 home PP21L Latitude 120L B120 by Compal - Inspiron 630m || <!--Chipset-->Intel Celeron M360 1.4GHz, M370 1.50 GHz, M380 1.73GHz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes|boots cd or DVD and installs to HDisk}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 915 2D and 3D openGL 1.x tunnel 172 gearbox 70}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio playback ear phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|works but waiting boot fail with AROS One usb version}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom 440x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|intel 2200 or BCM4318 swap for Atheros mini pci underside - one antenna lead for main wifi}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2, AROS One 1.6 usb, || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit single core - 14.1″ XGA 4:3 or 15.4" WXGA wide 1280 x 800 matte - ddr2 sodimm ram 2gb max - PA-16 19v psu tip 7.4mm * 5mm - f10 boot select f1 f2 bios |- | Latitude X1 PP05S || PP-M GMA915 rev A00 1.1GHz non-pae || {{yes|ide 1.8in zif/ce under keyboard}} || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|Vesa for Intel 915GM}} || {{yes|AC97 6.6 playback only with STAC codec}} || {{maybe|USB 2.0 but partial boot to blank screen}} || {{No|Broadcom 5751}} || {{no|Intel 2200BG - swap for Atheros mini pci under keyboard palm rest - disassembly of all laptop}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 dvd iso image virtualbox'd onto usb, Aros One 1.5 and 1.8 usb (2022) || 2005 32bit 12.1" 4:3 1024 x 768 - sd slot not bootable - 256mb soldered to board and 1 sodimm max 1GB ddr2 under keyboard - F12 bios boot F2 - pa-17 pa17 19v octagonal psu port |- | Latitude D410 PP06S *rev A00 *A01, A02 *A03 || GMA915 1.6GHz Pentium® M 730, 1.7GHz, 750 1.86GHz & 760 2.0GHz, 770 2.13GHz || {{yes|caddy and adapter needed 2.5" - remove hdd and write}} || {{N/A}} || {{Yes|Intel 915GM 2D and 3D OpenGL 1.3 tunnel 170 and gearbox 75}} || {{yes|AC97 playback only with STAC 9751 codec}} || {{maybe|works but will not boot from USB-DVD or AROS One 1.5 usb version}} || {{No|Broadcom 5751}} || {{no|Intel 2915ABG or later 2200BG - swap for Atheros mini pci under keyboard}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4, 2.1.1 and AROS One 1.5 usb, || 2005 32bit 12.1" 4:3 1024 x 768 - no sd card slot - PR06S dock base |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D510 (Quanta DM1) || <!--Chipset-->915GM socket 479 || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 915 2D and 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 STAC 975x}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG swap Atheros mini pci in base}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 14.1" 32bit single core Intel Celeron M 1.6GHz Pentium M 730 1.73Ghz - squarish 3:2 - issues with 3rd party battery 4 quick flashes of red led with 1 final green |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D610 (Quanta JM5B) PP11L || <!--Chipset-->910GML 915GM with mobile 1.6 to 2.26ghz * Rev A0x * Rev A0x * Rev A07 1.73Ghz | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 915 2D and 3D tunnel 174 gearbox 74}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 speaker head phones playback only with stac codec}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 2200BG or Broadcom mini pci under keyboard, swap wifi card for atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 14" 1024 x 768 - very noisy clicky trackpad buttons - one dimm slot under keyboard and other in underside 2GB 533Mhz 667Mhz DDR2 max - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D610 (Quanta JM5B) 0C4717 REV A05, 0K3879 REV.A00 || <!--Chipset-->915GM || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA 2d - Ati X300 no radeon 2d}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG mini pci use Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 14" 1024 x 768 - very noisy clicky trackpad buttons - 19.5v psu |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D810 (Quanta ) || <!--Chipset-->915GM || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA 2d - Ati X300 RV370 M22 later x600}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 stereo playback only idt 9751 codec}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0 but no boot from usb on 1.5}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG mini pci replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1, aros one 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 15.4" F12 one time boot menu - 19.5v 90w psu ideal - battery not same as later dx20 ones - |- | <!--Name-->Studio XPS M1210 || <!--Chipset-->GM945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->nVidia G72M 7300 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92xx || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401 B0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4311 - swap for Atheros 5k mini pci-e}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Inspirion E1705 9200 9300 9400 || <!--Chipset-->945GM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia 6800, ati X300 or nVidia 7900GS gpu 3d corrupt || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 swap with Atheros 5k mini pcie || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->[http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=6481 increasing vertical lines issues] |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1501 PP23LA Latitude 131L || <!--Chipset-->AMD on ATI RS480 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA 2d - ATI 1150 (x300) RS482M Mobility Radeon Xpress 200}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with stac 92xx codec}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom bcm 4401}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bcm4311 replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit 15.4 inch Matt 16:10, 1280x800 pixel, WXGA TFT Display - first Dell AMD machine - Sempron 1.8GHz Turion MK-36 or X2 1.6Ghz TL-50 or TL-56 |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 6000 6400, E1505 PP20L, 9300, 9200 PP14L *A00 Pentium M *A0? Core Duo || <!--Chipset-->GM945 with PM 1.73Ghz, T2050 or T2060 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|vesa 2d - Ati 9700, x1300 RV515 M52, x1400 or nvidia go 7300 on mxm board}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio IDT 9200}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|usb boot }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom BCM4401 B0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200 3945 - swap for Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1, AROS One 1.6 || <!--Comments-->2006 mostly 32bit but - 15.4 inch glossy - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots - broadcom bcm92045 bluetooth detected but no support - 19.5v dell psu socket - f2 bios setup, f12 boot order - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 6400 (Quanta FM1) *A00 Pentium M *A0? Core Duo *A08 Core2 Duo || <!--Chipset-->GM945 with BGA479 (socket M) T2050 1.6Ghz, T2060 1.60Ghz, T2080 1.73Ghz much later T5500 1.66Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 2D and 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with IDT 92xx codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom BCM4401 B0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4311 swap for Atheros 5k mini pci-e under keyboard}} || <!--Test Distro-->deadwood 2019-04-16 iso || <!--Comments-->2006 mostly 32bit - 15.4" glossy - sd card - front multimedia keys - dvd rw - generic dell keyboard - coin cr2032 bios battery under keyboard - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 640m PP19L XPS M140 e1405 || <!--Chipset-->Core Solo T2050, T2300 Duo 1.83GHz T2400 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM4401-B0 100Base || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 or Broadcom 43xx, swap for Atheros 5k - Wireless Internet ON or OFF press the Function key + F2}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32 bit - 12.1 LCD CCFL WXGA 1280x800 up to 14.1 inch 16:10 1440x900 pixel, WXGA+ UltraSharp - supports also SSE3 on duos - |- | <!--Name-->Precision M65 M90 XPS M1710 || <!--Chipset-->945PM with T2600 T2700 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->nVidia Quadro FX 350M 1600M 1500M G71 on par with the Go7900 GS to GTX 7950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with STAC 92XX codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5752 || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom BCM4311 BCM4328 swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 17" workstation type WXGA+ screen manufactured by AU Optronics poor viewing angles, unevenly lit, light leakage |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D420 (Compal LA-3071P) PP09S || <!--Chipset-->945 * revA00 Solo 1.2Ghz ULV U1400 * revA01 Duo 1.06Ghz u2500 * revA02 Duo 1.2Ghz | <!--IDE-->{{yes|ZIF/CE 1.8" slow under battery, ribbon cable}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA950 - 2D and 3D opengl tunnel 138 gearbox 103}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with STAC 92xx playback speakers head phones only)}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|2 and external usb optical drive works}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 mini pcie - swap Atheros 5k in base panel}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros Desktop 1.4 || <!--Opinion-->2006 32bit only - 12.1" 1280x800 - PR09S dock base rev02 DVD-RW usb boots - 1GB DDR2 2Rx16 max in base panel - f2 setup f5 diagnostics f12 boot list - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D520 PP17L || <!--Chipset--> * 64bit rev A01, A02 945GM Core2 Duo 1.83Ghz to 2.3Ghz * 32bit rev A00, A01 940GML Solo later Duo T2400 | <!--IDE-->{{yes|DVD-ROM Rev00 Philips SDR089 - CDRW/DVDROM Philips CDD5263 or TEAC DW224EV - DVD+-RW Rev00 Optiarc AD-5540A or HL-DL-ST GSAT21N, rev01 TSSTcorp TS-L632D}} || {{Yes|bios sata set to ide mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 900 series 2D and OpenGL1 3D tunnel 210 gearbox 153 teapot 27}} || {{Yes|HD audio with STAC 9200 codec}} || {{Yes|Boots and detects USB2.0}} || {{Yes|Broadcom 4400}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4312 BCM4321 Dell 1390 / 1490 mini pcie - easy to replace with atheros 5k in base panel}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4 and 2.2 and AROS One usb 1.8 and grub boot add 'noacpi' || 2006 mostly 64bit 4:3 aspect ratio 14.1 (XGA 1024x768) or later 15 inches (XGA+ 1400 by 1050) - F2 enter bios F12 choose boot - 19.5v dell tip pa-12 charger - bios coin cell cr2032 battery socketed in base panel - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D620 (Compal LA-2792) PP18L || <!--Chipset-->945GMS * rev A00 all Core Duo's 32 bit * rev A0x all Core 2 Duo's 64 bit | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 950 (2D and 3D tunnel gearbox opengl1 || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio playback}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 3945 mini pcie swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->AspireOS Xenon || <!--Opinion-->2006 64bit AROS capable with later revisions - 14" 1280 x 800 |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D620 || <!--Chipset-->Intel i945 * revA00 all Core Duo's 32 bit * revA01 all Core 2 Duo's 64 bit | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia 7300, 7600 NVS 110M G72 || <!--Audio-->{{dunno|HD Audio with STAC 9200 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless--> {{dunno}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2007 1440x900 screen - LA-2792P Rev.2.0 - DT785 UC218 Fan/ Heatsink (64bit) - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D820 (Quanta JM6) || <!--Chipset-->945GMS 940GML * rev A00 * rev A01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 2D and 3D tunnel 195 - 100? gearbox 156}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with STAC 9200 playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|BCM4310 replace with mini pcie atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Opinion-->2007 widescreen 15 inch 1280 x 800 matte - - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D820 (Quanta JM) || <!--Chipset-->945GMS 940GML * revA00 * revA01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Nvidia NVS 110M 120M G72}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio STAC 9200}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|BCM4310 swap with Atheros 5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2007 64bit 15.4 1650x1050 WXGA or WSXGA+ or 1920x1200 WUXGA - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Latitude D531 15" || <!--Chipset-->AMD Turion X2 TL56 or TL60 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA - ATi xpress X1270}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with IDT codec || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 57xx}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 or Dell Wireless 1390, 1505 or BCM4311 mini pcie || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit possible - no trackpoint - fails and goes wrong often - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D430 PP09S || <!--Chipset-->945 with Core2 Duo C2D U7500 1.06GHz U7600 1.2GHz U7700 1.33GHz * rev A00 * rev A01 * rev A02 | <!--IDE-->ZIF PATA IDE 1.8inch under battery and ribbon cable - slow use USB instead || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|945GML 2D and 3D opengl 1.x 171 tunnel 105 gearbox}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|STAC 92xx HD Audio speaker and ear phone - mono speaker}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|3 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 4965 AGN or 3945 ABG mini pci-e underside with Atheros 5k mini pci-e}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aspire 1.8 || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit capable - sd card not supported - 19.5v PA12 power adapter - 12.1" 1280x800 matte - f2 setup f5 diagnostics f12 boot list - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D530 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 + ICH8 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|nVidia Quadro NVS 135M 2D 3d glitches G86}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.5 || <!--Comments-->2007 [http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=6481 ] cool air intake from underneath needed with pa-10 or pa-3e 90w psu required - standard 4:3 ratio aspect screen - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D630 (Compal LA-3301P) PP18L || <!--Chipset-->GM965 + ICH8 T7250 2.0Ghz T7300 * revA00 * revA01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA X3100 (2D only, no external monitor)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio STAC 9205 but speaker and head phones}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB 2.0}}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom BCM4312 swap with pci-e Atheros 5k under keyboard}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit possible - F12 to choose boot option - 2 ddr2 sodimm max 4G - 4400mah 48Wh battery lasts 2 hours - 6600mah 73Wh lasts just over 3 hours |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D630 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 + ICH8 * revA00 [http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=6481 ] GPU heatpad, no copper * revA01 0DT785 heatsink | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|use VESA as nVidia NVS 135M 3d corrupts 0.7 tunnel 0.25 gearbox G86}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG swap with Atheros 5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.5 || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D830 || <!--Chipset-->965GM with Core2 * revA00 * revA01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GM965 crestline 2d and 3d tunnel 115}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|replace with Atheros 5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros || <!--Comments-->2007 15 inch 1280 x 900 but updating the LCD to WXGA or WSXGA+ could be better - 2 ddr2 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D830 || <!--Chipset-->ICH8, Core2 DUO T7800 @ 2.60GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Intel ICH8M Serial ATA || <!--Gfx-->nVidia Quadro NVS 140M G86 || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with STAC 92XX codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit || <!--Wireless-->Intel Wireless 4965AGN swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.03 || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit 15." - FN,F2 or FN,F8 or FN,F12 |- | <!--Name-->XPS M1330 M1530 M1730 - WISTRON Hawke || <!--Chipset-->965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{No|Intel 965 with either Nvidia 8400M 8600M 8700M or 8800GT G84 G86}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio STAC 9228 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom or Marvell 88E8040 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro-->ICAROS 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit Did not boot |- | <!--Name-->Precision M2300 M4300 M6300 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|use VESA nVidia Quadro FX 360M (8400GS) 3600M 3500M 2500M G86 to G92}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG 4965 swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2007 14" 15.6" 17" |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 1310 1510 (Compal LA-4592P) 1710 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo T7600 or Celeron 540 GMA965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GM965 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC268 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 4965 swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit Celeron 540 added 64 bit support (doubling transistor count) |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 1320 1520 (Compal LA-4592P) 1720 (Compal LA-4671P) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 965 || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC268 or IDT 92HD8X codec || <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4312 or Dell Wireless 1397}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 up to 17 inch with 13.3 inch WXGA Anti-Glare matt or glossy LED Display (1280 x 800) - |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 1320 1520 (Compal LA-4592P) 1720 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvdia 9300m to 9600M GS G96 || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC268 or IDT 92HD8X codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4312 swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 15.4” screen Vostro 1520 with excessive heat buildup on the left hand side palm rest |- | <!--Name-->Precision M2400 M4400 M6400 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA 2d for nVidia Quadro FX 770M G86}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2008 14" 15.6" 17" |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1525 PP29L || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo or Core2 Duo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT codec || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4312}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 32bit much later 64bit 15.4" 1200 x 800 - 19.5v dell psu - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1545 PP41L || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 4500MHD || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HD71B codec || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8040}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4312}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 15.6" |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E4200 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo U9400 U9300 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->64gig ssd with ribbon cable || <!--Gfx-->Intel GM45 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HD 71B7X codec || <!--USB--> NEC uPD720202 || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82567LM}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4322 or Intel’s 5100 or 5300}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64 - 12.1in 1,280 x 800 poor color accuracy magnesium alloy body - easily replaced keyboard - 1 ddr3 sodimm slot - Microdia cam - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E5400 E5500 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio but no sound}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM5761e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E4300 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core 2 Duo P9400 2.4GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 4500 MHD || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HDxxx || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82567LM || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel PRO Wireless 5300 AGN}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit - 13.3" WXGA - sd card Broadcom BCM5880 - |- | <!--Name-->Lattitude E6400 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo P9500 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel GMA 4500M HD 2D with NVIDIA QUADRO NVS 160M G98}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD with IDT 92HD71 codec or later 92HDM61}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom BCM4312 or Intel 5300 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 early ones problems with the keyboard ribbon cable connector, trackpoints were not good |- | <!--Name-->Latittude E4310 E5410 ATG || <!--Chipset-->Intel 5 series Intel Core i5 560M 1st gen || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA HD 5700 mhd || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with IDT 92HDxx Codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82577LM || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4313 too small 30x30 to swap}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64Bit clarkdale codename CPUs - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E6410 E6510 E6310 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core i7 620M i7 820QM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|NVidia NVS 3100M GT218 2D but 3D through external monitor}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio IDT 92HD81}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom or Intel 6200AGN or Link 6300}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3 || <!--Comments-->2010 64 bit |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron M5030 || <!--Chipset-->rev A01 AMD V120, V140 rev A0? V160 M880G || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA RS880M Radeon HD 4225, 4250}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with ALC269q codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8152 v2}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - DDR3 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1546 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 4330M 530v || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 91HD81 codec || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8103EL-GR || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - 15.6" - alps touchpad - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->XPS 15 15Z L501X L502X 17 17Z L701X L702X || <!--Chipset-->i7 840QM to i7 2630QM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel HD 3000 with Nvidia 555, 525M, 540M, 555M or 435M 420M GF108M optimus || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111e || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit first models not Sandybridge but later are - 17.3-inch 1600 × 900 to 15.6-inch - not many working now |- | <!--Name-->E6420 E6520 ATG semi ruggized XFR || <!--Chipset-->sandy bridge i5 2520M 2540M or duo I7 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->set to Bios UEFI mode AHCI || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel HD 3000 with optional fermi Nvidia NVS 4200M GF119}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with IDT 92HD90 BXX codec but not HDMI codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6205}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.03 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit 15.6in - fan exhausts a lot of hot air when cpu taxed - VGA if Bios ATA set and Vesa only with Bios ACHI set - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron M5040 || <!--Chipset-->slow amd E450, later C-50 C50 or C-60 C60 with A50M chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->non efi sata in IDE mode but base plastic difficult to remove for access || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA AMD Radeon 6320, 6250 or 6290}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio IDT}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8105E VB 10/100}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros AR9285 no space for swap}} || <!--Test Distro-->icaros 2.1.1 and AROS USB 1.6 || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit 15INCH 1388 X 768 - f2 bios setup, f12 boot order - under removable keyboard via 4 top spring loaded catches is 1 ddr3l sodimm max 8gb and wifi - |- | Latitude e6230 E6330 E6430 || i3 3320M 3350M 2.8 GHz i5 3360M i7 3520M || {{N/A}} || {{partial|non RAID mode}} || {{partial|Intel HD 4000 (VESA only)}} || {{no|HD Audio}} || {{partial|Intel USB 3.0 (USB 1.1 2.0 only)}} || {{No|Intel 82579LM Gigabit}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313}} || <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2014 09-27 || 2013 64bit Ivy Bridge - 12.5-inch 13.3-inch 14-inch screen - not great support, better under hosted - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 15 3521 5521 5721, Vostro 3555 || <!--Chipset-->i5 i7 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel HD 4000 or Radeon 8730M or 7670M || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC850 ?? || <!--USB-->USB 3.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E RTL8105E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros or Dell 1703 1704 1705}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.3 || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit AVX Panther Point Ivy Bridge Intel(R) 7 Series Mobile - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 15‑3541 15‑3542 P40F001 P40F002 || <!--Chipset-->AMD E1 2100 6010 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Partial|VESA 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{unk| }} || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit no AVX - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Inspiron 15 5565 5567 AMD versions || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9200u A9-9400 A12-9700P Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->Radeon R5 R8 GCN 3 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 1GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - there are i-intel versions - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Latitude 5495 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 2300U 2500U 2700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe and 2.5in || <!--Gfx-->Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek ALC3246 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14.0" FHD WVA 1080p (16:9) 220 nits or 14.0" HD (1366 x 768) - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 32gb - 19.5V 65W 90W - care needed with usbc charging - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 3505, Vostro 3515 || <!--Chipset-->athlon 300u, Ryzen 3250u (2c4t) 3450u 3500u 3700u (4c8t), Athlon Silver (2c2t) Gold (2c4t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for Vega 8, 10}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Realtek ALC3204, Cirrus Logic CS8409 (CS42L42 and SN005825)}} || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|RTL 8106E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8723DE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64-bit - 15.6inch - 2 ddr4 sodimm max 16G - avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 5485 2-in-1 || <!--Chipset-->athlon 300u, Ryzen 3250u (2c4t) 3450u 3500u 3700u (4c8t), Athlon Silver (2c2t) Gold (2c4t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for Vega 8, 10}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Realtek ALC3204}} || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8723DE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64-bit - 14inch - 2 ddr4 sodimm max 16G - avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Latitude 3500 3410 3510 5410 5510 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core i5 (8th Gen) 8265U, i5-10210U, CORE i5-10310U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{no|Intel UHD Graphics 620}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|Realtek ALC3204}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111H}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - Realtek LAN port for WD19/22 docks untested - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 5405 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 4500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->One M.2 2230/2280 nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek ALC3204 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14" 1080p - dell round ac - |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 5415, Inspiron 5515 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 5300U, Ryzen 5 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 14" or 15.6in - avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use or use dell round ac - replacing keyboard not easy - 1 ddr4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 3425, Vostro 3525, Vostro 5625 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 5425U, Ryzen 5 5625U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB4}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 14in 15.6" to 16" FHD 1080p - dell round ac or avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Inspiron 15 Model 3535, Inspiron 14 7435 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 7520U, AMD Ryzen 5 7530U, 7 7730U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{No| hdmi 1.4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with codec }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2024 64bit - 14.0" or 15.6" 1080p - dell round ac or usb-c charging - full sd card slot - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |} ====Fujitsu-Siemens==== [[#top|...to the top]] Order of build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Amilo Esprimo Lifebook </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu [http://www.labri.fr/perso/fleury/index.php?page=bug_transmeta FMV-Biblo Loox S73A (Japan P1100) LifeBook P1120 Biblo Loox T93C (Japan P2120) P2020] || <!--Chipset-->Transmeta Crusoe CPU TM5600 633MHz with Ali M1535 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->ATI Rage Mobility M with 4MB SDRAM || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 Ali M1535 + STAC9723 Codec}} || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 only || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1999 32bit 10" 1280 x 600 matte LCD - QuickPoint IV mouse - metal chassis with palm rest plastic - 15GB 2.5 inch drive and SR 8175 8X DVD-ROM drive - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook S7000 S7010 S7010D S2020 || <!--Chipset-->Pentium M 1.6 or 1.7GHz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - Intel 855}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|AC97 with STAC 9751T or 9767 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros, Broadcom or Intel 2200BG - FN,F10}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit 14.1 inch with minimal support |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook e8010 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Intel 855GM}} || <!--Audio-->AC97 STAC9767 or ALC203 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5705M}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3.1 || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit 15.1 inch |- | <!--Name-->Stylistic ST5000 ST5010 ST5011 ST5012 ST5020 ST5021 ST5022 || <!--Chipset-->1.0GHz P-M and later 1.1GHz on Intel 855GME || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 800 use VESA || <!--Audio-->Intel AC97 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5788 tg3 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200BG}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit charged via a proprietary port power connector 16V 3.75A with wacom serial pen interface - indoor Screen transmissive 10.1 and later 12.1 XGA TFT - |- | <!--Name-->Amilo Pro V2010 || <!--Chipset-->VIA CN400 PM880 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|S3 unichrome use VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|VIA AC97 VT8237 with codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Rhine 6102 6103 || <!--Wireless-->RaLink RT2500 || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit boot mount - unknown bootstrap error then crashes |- | <!--Name-->Amilo Li 1705 CN896 || <!--Chipset--> with VIA P4M900 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE}} || <!--Gfx-->ATi || <!--Audio-->{{No|VIA VT8237 HD Audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->VT82xx 62xx || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|VIA Rhine}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros G}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit random freezes |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> Esprimo Mobile V5535 Skt mPGA 478MN | <!--Chipset--> | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE and EIDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{maybe|IDE mode with SIS 5513}} | <!--Gfx--> {{maybe|SiS 771 / 671 (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|HD Audio SIS968 SIS966 SI7012 with ALC268 codec}} | <!--USB--> {{no|USB 1.1 and 2.0 issues}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|SiS 191 gigabit}} | <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros AR5001 mini pci express}} | <!--Test Distro-->aros one 1.5 usb | <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 20v barrel - f2 setup f12 multi boot - random freezing short time after booting - chipset SIS 671MX - |- | <!--Name-->Amilo SI 1520 1521p || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio Conexant codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Intel Pro 100}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.2 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit - Set Bios option ATA Control Mode to Compatible |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook S7020 S7020D || <!--Chipset--> Pentium M 740 1.73MHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 915 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC260 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5751M Gigabit || <!--Wireless-->Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG or Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Stylistic ST5030 ST5031 ST5032 || <!--Chipset-->1 to 1.2GHx Pentium M with 915GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 900 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Marvell || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit charged via a proprietary port power connector 6.0 x 4.4 mm round - 200 pin ddr2 ram |- | <!--Name-->Stylistic ST5110 ST5111 ST5112 || <!--Chipset-->945GM with 1.2GHz Core Duo and Core2 Duo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 900 || <!--Audio-->HD audio with STAC9228 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 ABG or optional atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 either 32 or 64 bit - charged via a proprietary port power connector 6.0 x 4.4 mm round - SigmaTel® touchscreen - |- | <!--Name-->E8110 S7110 E8210 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|945GM}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC262 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8055 Gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit Core Duo |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || CHIPSET || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook PH521 || <!--Chipset-->AMD E-350 E-450 1.65GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->HD 6310M 6320M || <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC269 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 802.11 bgn}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6 inch 1366x768 pixels - DDR3 1066MHz - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====HP Compaq==== [[#top|...to the top]] Build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Presario Pavilion Omnibook ProBook Armada Elitebook </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->1c00 series Compaq Presario [http://users.utu.fi/sjsepp/linuxcompaqarmada100s.html Armada 100S made by Mitac], 1247 || <!--Chipset-->K6-II with PE133 MVP-4 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA - Trident Blade3D AGP sp16953 || <!--Audio-->VIA ac'97 audio [rev20] with AD1881A codec || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|usual VIA issues [rev10]}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit 192MB max - PCcard Texas PC1211 no support - 1200 XL1 1200-XL1xx, XL101, XL103 XL105 XL106 XL109 XL110 XL111 XL116 XL118 XL119 XL125 |- | <!--Name-->1c01 series Armada 110, Evo N150 || <!--Chipset-->Intel with VIA PLE133 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - Trident Cyber Blade i1 chipset || <!--Audio-->VIA 686 rev20 82xxx 686a || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82557 Pro 100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit max 192mb sodimm 100Mhz 133Mhz ram memory - 1200-XL405A 12XL405A XL502A 12XL502A 1600XL |- | Armada M300 M700 E500 || 440BX || {{Yes| }} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|ATI Rage LT M1 Mobility (VESA only)}} || {{no|AC97 ESS Maestro 2E M2E ES1987 sound}} || {{yes|USB1.1 only}} || {{No|[http://perho.org/stuff/m300/index_en.html Intel PRO 100+ Mini PCI]}} || {{N/A}} || Aspire OS 2012, Nightly 30-01 2013 and 04-05 2013 || 1999 32bit - F10 bios options and Fn+F11 reset CMOS with 64mb ram already on board |- | <!--Name-->HP Omnibook XE3 || <!--Chipset-->Intel BX 600Mhz GC model 256mb or AMD GD 500Mhz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - S3 Inc. 86C270 294 Savage IX-MV (rev 11) || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1988 Allegro 1 (rev 12)}} || <!--USB-->Intel 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit no cardbus pcmcia support - no audio from Polk Audio Speakers - |- | <!--Name-->HP Omnibook XE3 || <!--Chipset-->82830 ICH3 P3-M 750MHz 800Mhz 900MHz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - CGC 830MG}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1988 Maestro 3i}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|only one 1.1 port}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|e100 82557}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A|}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.51 || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit Boots USB Stick via Plop boot floppy - Memory for GF 256-512mb, GS up 1GB |- | <!--Name-->TC1000 TC-1000 Tablet PC || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA NV11 [GeForce2 Go] (rev b2) || <!--Audio-->VIA AC97 Audio (rev 50) || <!--USB-->OHCI NEC USB 2.0 (rev 02) || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82551 QM (rev 10) || <!--Wireless-->Atmel at76c506 802.11b || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit Transmeta LongRun (rev 03) with VT82C686 - Texas Instruments TI PCI1520 PC card Cardbus |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq R3000 ZV5000 (Compal LA-1851) || <!--Chipset-->Nvidia nForce 3 with AMD CPU || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia NV17 [GeForce4 420 Go 32M] || <!--Audio-->Nvidia || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom or Realtek RTL8139 || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4303 BCM4306 or Atheros bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - HPs have a setting to automatically disable wireless if a wired connection is detected |- | <!--Name-->Compaq [http://www.walterswebsite.us/drivers.htm Presario 700 series] || <!--Chipset-->VT8363 VT8365 [Apollo Pro KT133 KM133] || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VT8636A (S3 Savage TwisterK) (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|VIA AC97 [rev50] with AD1886 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|VIA UHCI USB 1.1 [rev1a]}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RealTek RTL8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom BCM4306}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit poor consumer grade level construction - jbl audio pro speakers - no support for cardbus pcmcia TI PCI1410 - 700A EA LA UK US Z 701AP EA BR FR 701Z 702US 703US AP JP audio sp18895 Sp19472 |- |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | N400c || P3-M 82845 || {{yes|82801 CAM IDE U100}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Rage Mobility 128 (VESA only)}} || {{No|Maestro 3 allegro 1}} || {{yes|USB1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VM (KM)}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit Has no optical disc drive |- | N410c || P3-M 82845 || {{yes|82801 CAM IDE U100}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Radeon Mobility M7 LW 7500 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|Intel AC97 with AD1886 codec}} || {{yes|USB1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VM (KM)}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit Has no optical disc drive |- | Evo N600c || Pentium 4 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI Radeon Mobility M7 (VESA only)}} || {{No|ESS ES1968 Maestro 2}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2003 32bit |- | Evo N610c || Pentium 4 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI Radeon Mobility M7 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|Intel ICH AC97 with AD1886 codec}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || |- | N800c || P4 || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit P4M CPU can get very warm |- | <!--Name-->NX7010 || <!--Chipset-->Intel || <!--IDE-->{{yes|IDE}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|ATI mobility 7500 or 9000 Radeon 9200 64MB (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 ADI codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|uhci (1.1) and ehci (2.0)}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200b bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Preasrio V5000 (Compal LA-2771) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Sempron 3000+ or Turion ML with SB400 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - Ati RS480M Xpress 200}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 ATI with Conexant CX 20468 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8100 8101L 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|bcm4318 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2004 64bit single core machine V5001 V5002 V5002EA V5003 |- | <!--Name-->TC1100 TC-1100 Tablet PC || <!--Chipset-->855PM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia Geforce4 Go || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|BCM 4400}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros wlan W400 W500 or ? bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit |- | <!--Name-->NC6000 NC8000 NW8000 || <!--Chipset-->855PM with Pentium M 1.5 1.6 1.8GHz 2.0GHz || <!--IDE-->max 160 GB for NW 8000 || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Ati RV350 mobility 9600 M10 Fire GL T2 ISV use VESA 2D as no laptop display}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel AC97 with ADI codec playback only}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|2 ports}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM 5705M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|mini pci Atheros 5212 BG W400 W500 or Intel - all bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 based [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=41916&forum=47 works] - Firewire TI TSB43AB22/A - 8 pound 2.5 kg travel weight - an SD slot as well as two PC Card slots - 15-inch UXGA screen (1,600 x 1,200) or 15" SXGA+ (1400 x 1050) (4:3 ratio) |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Compaq NC6110 NX6110 NC6120 NC6220 NC4200 NC8200 TC4200 || <!--Chipset-->GMA 915GML || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D GMA 900}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 with ADI AD1981B playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|440x or BCM 5705M or 5751M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel IPW 2200 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5.2 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit Sonoma based - Wifi with Atheros AR5007eg if apply hacked bios RISKY else use USB one - (INVENTEC ASPEN UMA MV) (INVENTEC ASPEN DIS PV) - |- | <!--Name-->Compaq C500 CTO aka HP G7000 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 945GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with realtek ALC262 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom BCM 4311 bios locked || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->HP DV6000 || <!--Chipset-->945GMS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HD 91B || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel PRO 100 VE || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32 bit only - Mosfet FDS6679 common cause of shorts giving no power to the tip. To reset adapter, unplug from AC (mains) and wait 15-30 sec. Then plug in again - |- | Presario F700 series, HP G6000 f730us F750 F750us F755US F756NR F765em || AMD Turion Mono MK-36 2.0Ghz NForce 560m or Twin X2 TK-55 with nForce 610m MCP67 || {{N/A| }} || {{Yes|but needs special sata adapt bit and caddy}} || {{Yes|GF Go 7000m 2D and 3D 640x350 to 1280x800 - ball solder issues due to poor cooling}} || {{Maybe| }} || {{Maybe|uhci and ehci boots}} || {{No|Nvidia }} || {{Yes|Atheros AR5007 bios locked}} || Icaros 1.3.1 and Aros One 1.6 USB || 2006 64bit - f9 boot device f10 bios setup - random freezes after a minutes use means internal ventilation maintenance needed each year essential - No sd card and overall limited phoenix bios options - |- | <!--Name-->Presario v6604au v6608au V3500 || <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA MCP67M with AMD Athlon64 X2 TK 55 amd 1.8ghz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|SATA 150}} || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA GeForce Go 7150M 630i or C67 630M MCP67 || <!--Audio-->conexant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia or Realtek 10/100 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4311 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit Altec Lansing Stereo Speakers - ball solder issues - |- | <!--Name-->Compaq presario v6610 v6615eo v6620us || <!--Chipset-->Turion 64 X2 mobile TK-55 / 1.8 GHz to athlon 64x2 @ 2.4ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|SATA 150}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|geforce 7150 or 7300m 2d and 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AMD HD Audio with IDT codec stereo playback only}} || <!--USB-->3 OHCI EHCI || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3 - || <!--Comments-->2007 [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=40956&forum=48 works well] - 1 x ExpressCard/54 - SD Card slot - AO4407 test voltage of the Drain side (pins 5-8) with AC adapter and no battery, see 0 volts, connect the battery you should have 10-14v - |- | <!--Name-->v6630em v6642em || <!--Chipset-->nForce 630M with AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-58 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA GeForce 6150M or 7150M || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit 15.4 in 1280 x 800 ( WXGA ) - |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq NC6400 || <!--Chipset-->945GM Core Duo || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|GMA 950 2D issues and no 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio AD1981HD}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros || <!--Comments-->2007 - replaced with Atheros AR5007eg if apply hacked bios RISKY else use USB g - * 32bit Core Duo T2400 * 64bit Core 2 Duo T5600 T7600 |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq NV NC6400 || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo + 945PM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Radeon x1300M (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with ADI1981 low volume}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|BCM 5753M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 ABG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.4.2 || <!--Opinion-->2007 Harmon Kardon speakers |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq NC6320 || <!--Chipset-->945GM with * 32bit Core Duo 1.83GHz T2400 * 64bit Core2 Duo 1.83GHz T5600 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 950 2D with a little 3D tunnel 213}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD Audio with AD1981HD codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM 5788}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2 || <!--Comments-->2007 replaced with Atheros AR5007eg if applying hacked wifi bios RISKY!! else use USB - 14.1" or 15 inch XGA 1024x768 - noisy cpu fan for core2 - trackpad rhs acts as window scroller - |- | <!--Name-->HP NC4400 TC4400 Tablet || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo with 82945 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|bios F.07 limits to 100GB 120GB}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|2D and 3D 282 tunnel and gearbox 150}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ADI 1981HD codec via ear phones}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM 5753M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 or BCM 4306 - Whitelist BIOS F.0C needed but risky}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->2008 64 bit possible with Core2 - TI SD card reader non bootable - wacom serial digitiser pen not working - * 32bit 1.86GHz core duo * 64bit 2Ghz T7200, 2.16Ghz Core 2 Duo T7600 2.33GHz |- | <!--Name-->HP Pavilion DV2000 CTO || <!--Chipset-->945GMS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950, X3100, Nvidia 8400M || <!--Audio-->HD Audio Conexant CX 20549 Venice || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia MCP51 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM 4311 or Intel 3945 4965 ABG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 Atheros AR5007eg if apply hacked bios RISKY |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Presario C700 || <!--Chipset-->GMA960 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->X3100 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139 || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros AR5007 AR5001 AR242x}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 |- | <!--Name-->Compaq 2510p 6510b 6710b 6910b || <!--Chipset-->GMA 965GM GL960 || <!--IDE-->{{yes| || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|X3100 some 2d but slow software 3d only}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio ADI AD1981 HD low volume on head phones}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82566 or Broadcom BCM 5787M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945ABG or 4965ABG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aspire OS Xenon 2014 || <!--Comments-->2008 no sd card boot support - F9 to choose boot option - [http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/7681-This-is-no-request-thread!-HP-COMPAQ-bioses-how-to-modify-the-bios/page111?p=333358#post333358 whitelist removal (risky) bios block for wifi card swap] |- | <!--Name-->CQ40 CQ41 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BC4310 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Presario CQ35 CQ36 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4312 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 Compal LA-4743P - |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq CQ42 CQ43 CQ45 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Coxenant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8191SE, Realtek 8188CE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 (Quanta AX1) |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Presario CQ50 CQ56 || <!--Chipset-->Nvidia MCP78S || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Geforce 8200M || <!--Audio-->nVidia HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->nvidia MCP77 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR928X bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 [http://donovan6000.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/insyde-bios-modding-wifi-and-wwan-whitelists.html bios modding risky] MCP72XE MCP72P MCP78U MCP78S |- | <!--Name-->HP Pavilion dv4 dv4z(AMD), dv5 (dv5z AMD), dv7 (dv7z AMD) || <!--Chipset-->QL-60, QL-62 (AMD Turion 64 X2) RM-70, RM-72, ZM-80, ZM-84, (AMD Turion II) M520 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->HD 3200 3450 4530 4550 4650 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit - 14.1" dv4, dv5 features a 15.4" and the HP Pavilion dv7 a 17" display |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->CQ57z || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD E-300 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA ATi HD 6310 wrestler}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101 RTL8102 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RaLink RT5390}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->HP CQ58z 103SA E5K15EA || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD Dual-Core E1-1500 APU with A68M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Radeon HD 7310}} || <!--Audio-->Realtek idt codec || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 10/100 BASE-T}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 39.6 cm (15.6") HD BrightView LED-backlit (1366 x 768) |- | <!--Name-->HP 635 DM1 || <!--Chipset-->Slow E-300, E-450 later E2-1800 on SB7x0 SB8x0 SB9x0 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->ATI non efi SATA AHCI - IDE mode || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA 2D - AMD HD6310, 6320 to HD7340}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ALC270A GR but not Wrestler HDMI Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 driver covers Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 14" 1366 x 768 - f9 f10 - external battery - 2 stacked ddr3l sodimm slots max 16Gb under one base plate - removable keyboard - |- | <!--Name-->HP G6 2000-2b10NR 2000-2d10SX 2000-2d80NR || <!--Chipset-->E1-2000 E2-3000M on A50M (soldered) A4-3305A on A60M (socket) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Radeon 6320, 6620G, 6520G, 6480G, 6380G}} || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 100 1000 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 39.6-cm (15.6-in) HD LED BrightView (1366×768) - 1 or 2 ddr3l max 8G - 19VDC 3.42A Max 65W Tip 7.4mm x 5.0mm - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 6465B || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-3310MX or A6-3410MX with A60M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD 6480G or 6520G}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|IDT 92HD81B1X}} || <!--USB--> USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel AC 6205 or broadcom 4313 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 13-inch or 14-inch runs hot - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 8470p 8570p || <!--Chipset-->Quad i7-3840QM to i7-3610QM, Dual i7-3520M to i5-3210M, Core i3-3130M to i3-2370M on Mobile Intel QM77 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|set the bios boot options to not fastboot and drive mode IDE rather than AHCI }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d for HD4000 with some having switchable Radeon M2000 or 7570M}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio for IDT codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82579LM }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel, Broadcom, Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro-->64 bit boots from CD* if safe mode 2 is used, although it is possible to remove the 'nodma' and 'debug' entries and boot || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit with SSE4.1 and AVX - 14in 1600 x 900 to 1366 x 768 - 2 DDR3L sodimm slots max 16Gb - TPM 1.2 - dual boot 32/64 bit is working fine - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 6475b, Probook 4445s 4545s, HP Pavilion 15-b115sa, [https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c04015674#AbT6 HP mt41 Mobile Thin Client PC] || <!--Chipset-->AMD A4 4300M, A6 4400M 4455M or A8 4500M with AMD A70M A76M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 7420 7520G 7640G 7660G}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with idt or realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek RTL8151FH-CG}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6205 or Broadcom BCM 43228 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6-inch - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 455 G1 F2P93UT#ABA, 645 G1, Envy 15-j151ea G7V80EA, Envy m6-1310sa (E4R01EA#ABU) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Quad A4-4300M A8-4500M A10-4600M A4-5150M A6-5350M 2.9Ghz A10-5750M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 7420G 7520G 7640G 7660G 8350G 8450G or 8550G, 8650G, 8750G }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio IDT 92HD91 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 14in and 15in 1366 x 768 - external battery - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - 19.5v / 4.62A psu runs hot - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 245 G4, 255 G1, 255 G2, 455 G2, 255 G3, 455 G3, 255 G4 80CB, 255 G5 82F6, 355 G2, HP Pavilion 15-p038na 15-g092sa 15-p091sa 15-G094S 15-p144na 15-p142na, 15-Af156sa || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD A4-5000 A6-5200, E2-6110, E1-6010 E2-2000, E1-2100 E2-3800, A4-6210 A6-6310 A8-6410, E2-7110, A6-7310 A8-7410 APU || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata some with cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R2 R4 R5}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC3201-GR || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8102E or Atheros 1GbE || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros AR9565}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit most have SSE4 AVX but E2-2000 does not - 15.6-inch (1366 x 768) - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - small 31Whr or 41Whr external battery covers 240 G4, 245 G4, 250 G4, 255 G4, 256 G4, 14G, 15G - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 645 g2, Probook 445 G2, Probook 245 G2 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-8600 A8-8700 a10- || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Radeon R5 R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel I219V 100/1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel or Qualcomm Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 14in and 15.6-inch HD (1366 x 768) or FHD 1080p - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots max 16GB - internal battery - hp ac psu tip - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 725 G2, 745 G2, 755 G2 || <!--Chipset-->Amd Quad A6-7050B A8-7150B 1.9GHz A10-7350B || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA on AMD R4 R5 Radeon R6 with DP and vga}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD audio with IDT 92HD91}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 PCIe GBE || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom or Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 12.5-inch, 14" or 15.6in (all 1366 x 768) - 19.5V 65w 45W AC adapter - internal pull up tab battery under base which slides off - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - keyboard swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->HP Probook 455 G3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-8700P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Radeon R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->1GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 725 G3, 745 G3, 755 G3, 725 G4, 745 G4, 755 G4, HP mt43 || <!--Chipset-->Amd A8-8600B, A10-8700B, A12-8800B to Quad A8 Pro 9600B to A10 9800 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA on AMD R5 R6 R7 with DP and vga but screen is low res, dull colours, and blurry}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD audio with IDT codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 5762 PCIe GBE}} || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8723BE-VB || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - 12.5-inch (1366 x 768) to 14" and 15.6in - 2 sodimm ddr3 - 19.5V 45W AC slim 4.5mm hp adapter - randomly shuts down and the noisy fans constantly on - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 645 G3, 655 G3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD 8th Gen A10-8730B, A8-9600B (4c4t) A6-8530B (2c2t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for AMD R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111HSH || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel or Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->HP Probook 455 G4, Probook 455 G5, || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-9600P APU, A9-9410, A6-9210 APU || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R4, R5 or R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 1GbE || <!--Wireless-->realtek or intel Wireless-AC 7265 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit 15.6in 1366 x 768 - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 645 G6, 255 G6, 255 G7 - 31Whr external battery covers HP all G6 and HP 14-BS, HP 14-BW, HP 15-BS || <!--Chipset-->AMD E2-9000e, A9-9420, 9220P, 9125 (all 2c) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata 2.5in and M.2, no cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for R2 R3 R4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RTL8188CTV, RTL8821CE or Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 3168}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - 19V 65W - DDR4 slot max 8Gb - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ProBook 245 g8 || <!--Chipset-->Range all dual cores - AMD A6-9225 APU, AMD A4-9125 APU, AMD PRO A6-8350B APU, AMD PRO A4-5350B APU || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R4 R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - many variants - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Pavilion 15z bw0xxx, 15-bw024na 15-ba506na, 15-bw060na 15-DB0521SA, HP Envy x360 15-ar052sa 2 in 1, || <!--Chipset-->AMD A9-9420 2c 2t, A10-9620p 4c4t 9700p 7th Gen Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R5 GCN 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 15.6in 768p or 1080p - internal battery - 19.5V 2.31A hp plug - 1 DDR4-1866 SDRAM sodimm slot - keyboard swap problematic - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteBook 725 G5, 735 G5, 745 G5, 755 G5, Probook 455 G6, 255 G7 7DE73EA || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 2200U 2300U (2c t), R5 2500U, R7 2700U (4c8t) Raven Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 Sata or NVMe and/or 2.5in sata if detachable ribbon cable present, no cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for AMD Vega 3, 6, or 8}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ALC236 0x10ec0236 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek or rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8821CE, 8822BE or Intel AC 8265 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - 12.5 to 15.6in up to 1080p - internal battery - 1 on smaller laptops or 2 ddr4 sodimm slots on larger laptops max 16Gb - usb-c charging care needed - keyboard swap problematic - esc bios setup f9 boot order - |- | <!--Name-->HP Envy x360 15-bq150sa, Envy x360 covertible 13 13-ag0xxx HP Envy x360 15-cp0xxx Ryzen 2500u || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 and Sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ?, ?, ALC295 0x10ec0295 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|realtek, none on 13in}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 13 or 15.6in 1080p - hp barrel or usb-c on 13in - ddr4 - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP 14-cm, 15-bw0, HP 15-db0043na, HP 15-db0996na, HP 15-db0997na, 17-ca0007na, 17-ca1, ProBook 645 G4 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 2200U (2c 4t) 2500U (4c 8t) with AMD Carrizo FCH 51 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 and 1 2.5in on some larger models || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R5 and later Vega 3 or 7}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Realtek ALC3227 and ATI HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|USB3 USB boot drive stuck on kitty's eyes}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RTL 8723DE 8821 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 USB || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit 2kg - screen is dim 14in, 15.6in or 17.3" 768p, later 1080p - 65W 19.5V ac adapter - internal 3-cell 41 Wh Li-ion battery does not last long - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - no DVD-Writer - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->[https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c06955717 ProBook 245 g8], Probook 445R G6, 455R G6, HP 255 G7 7DC73EA 2D200EA, HP14-dk0599sa, pavilion 15-cw1511na 15-cw1507sa || <!--Chipset-->Range mostly dual cores - AMD Athlon Gold 3150U (2c 2t), Silver 3050U APU (2c 2t), Pro 3145U APU to 3200U (2c 4t) and 3500U (4c 8t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 NVMe 2280 but usually no 2.5in mountings, no cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3, 6 or 8 with up to 2gb ram taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with realtek ALC236 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 but no usb-c}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE RTL8111HSH || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek 8822BE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in / 15.6in dim panel 768p or 1080p - one heatpipe for cpu - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 16gb - 65 W Smart AC adapter, right angle, 4.5 mm or usb-c - keyboard swap problematic - cd-rw dvd-rw - plastic build - |- | <!--Name-->Elitebook 735 G6 5VA23AV, Elitebook 745 G6, 255 g8 || <!--Chipset-->AMD® Ryzen™ 5-3500U Ryzen 3-3300U AMD Ryzen 3-3250U AMD Athlon® Gold 3150U AMD Athlon Silver 3050U AMD 3020e || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|m.2 2280 nvme in legacy - hp sure start and secure boot disabled but still issues with gpt installs}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Vega 8, 5 or 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 6.34 ahi with realtek codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 type-A port boots stick partially to kitty eyes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169 realtek RTL8111E or 8111H}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|realtek or intel}} || <!--Test Distro-->{{No|Icaros 2.3 onto USB and AROS One 1.8 and 2.0 USB}} || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 1366x768 to 1920x1080 - 2 3200MHz DDR4 sodimms - 19.5V 2.31A or 20V 2.25 45W 4.5X3.0MM hp - esc bios setup, f9 boot device select - low travel keyboard - poor battery life - plastic hooked base with retained screws - elan touchpad? - |- | <!--Name-->Envy x360 13 laptop 13-ay0008na and 13 and 15.6' 2 in 1 convertible || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R5 4500U with carrizo FCH51 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega 6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel or Realtek wifi 6 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit 13.3in or 15.6in IPS 1080p - ram soldered - touch pen not supplied - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 445 G7, 455 G7 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 4300U 5 4500U 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 sata and 1 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with realtek alc236 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl169 realtek rtl8111ep || <!--Wireless-->{{No|realtek RTL8822CE or intel AC 9260 or Wi-Fi 6 AX200}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14 inch 768p or 1080p - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - smart 45w 65w hp or usb-c charging avoid damage - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteBook 745 G7, 845 G7, HP 15-EH0006NA || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 4300U, 5 4500U, PRO 4650U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->SSD M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Radeon Vega 8}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - Bang & Olufsen speakers - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 255 G8, HP 245 G9 Laptop || <!--Chipset-->AMD RYZEN 3 5425U, 5 5500U 5625U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega 6 or 8 hdmi 1.4B}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 1GBe}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8822CE or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 14" to 15.6in 1366 x 768 to 1080p poor gamut - 45 or 65w hp psu - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 16GB - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteBook 645 g7, 835 G8, 845 g8, HP ENVY x360 13 15 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 5650U, 7 5800U, R7 Pro 5850U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD Radeon}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 1Gbe on 645 only}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 13.3" or 14" 1080p - poor screens low nits and srgb score - 845 gets hot ue to poor cooling - slim round hp ac - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP Dev One, HP ProBook 455 G8 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, R7 5850U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 15.6" 1080p - 2 internal sodimm slots - hp barrel charging - |- | <!--Name-->HP probook 635 Aero G8 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 5600U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2921 64bit - 14in 1080p - 2 ddr4 slots - ec chip nuvoton NPCX797HA1B - bios winbond 250256JYEN - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 845 g9 || <!--Chipset-->aMD 6000 series 6850u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 680m}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB4 thunderbolt type}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Qualcomm Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit aluminum case - 14in 1080p to 2140p 16:10 poor screen again - 2 internal ddr5 sodimm slots - usb-c ac charging avoid any knocks - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 445 G10, 455 G10 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 7530U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no| }} || <!--USB-->{{no| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6in - hp round ac - |- | <!--Name-->HP ZBook Firefly 14" G11 Mobile Workstation, G11 QHD DreamColour Mobile Workstation || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen™ 7 8840HS, AMD Ryzen™ 9 8945HS || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2024 64bit - 35.6 cm (14") diagonal, WUXGA (1920 x 1200), IPS, anti-glare, 400 nits, 100% sRGB - 2 ddr5 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->HP ZBook Ultra G1a || <!--Chipset-->AMD AI Max Pro 390 12 Core, 395 16 Core || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD GPU || <!--Audio-->HDaudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - 14" Touch OLED 120Hz - 2 ddr 5 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->HP Envy 16" x360 (16-ad0007na) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen™ 7 8840HS, || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - 16GB, Touchscreen - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====IBM/Lenovo==== [[#top|...to the top]] Build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > iSeries Edge Ideapad Thinkpad - good cases and construction but electronic internals same as anyone else </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad 390X 390E (2626) || <!--Chipset-->Neo Magic MM2200 with C400 P2-266 to P3 500MHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA || <!--Audio-->{{No|256AV or ESS Solo-1}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad 600x || <!--Chipset-->Intel 440BX || <!--IDE-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Neomagic NM2360 MagicMedia 256ZX}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Crystal CS4297A codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3.1 || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit a little support - earlier 600 and 600e were Pentium 2 based |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X20 (2662-32U) X21 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 440 BX ZX DX || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 with Cirrus Logic Crystal cs4281}} || <!--USB-->1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->no mini pci intel e100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit |- | Thinkpad T20 (2647) T21 (26) T22 || 440BX || {{Maybe| }} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|Savage IX-MV (VESA only)}} || {{no|Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/ 24/30}} || {{yes|USB 1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2002 32bit |- | <!--Name-->A21e (2628, 2655) A22e || <!--Chipset-->440MX || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Ati rage mobility || <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 Cs4299 CS4229}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->intel e100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 |- | Thinkpad T23 (2647) || i810 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|S3 Super Savage IX/C SDR (VESA only)}} || {{maybe|AC'97 CS4299}} || {{yes|USB 1.1}} || {{yes|Intel ICH3 PRO 100 VE}} || {{no|Realtek RTL8180L others with bios hacking risky}} || || 2003 32bit with some support |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X22 X23 X24 || <!--Chipset-->830 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATi Mobility M6 LY || <!--Audio-->Ac97 CS4299 || <!--USB-->2 x 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->Intel Pro 100 || <!--Wireless-->Actiontec Harris Semi Intersil Prism 2.5 (X23 and X24 only) || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit with slice Ultrabase X2 - |- | <!--Name-->A30 A30p || <!--Chipset-->830 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Ati Radeon M6 || <!--Audio-->AC97 CS 4299 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel Pro 100 ve || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->A31 A31p R31 R32 T30 || <!--Chipset-->830 || <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Gfx-->Ati Radeon 7500 or FireGL || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 Intel with AD1881A codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes| Intel Pro 100 ve}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->[https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Android-Ecosystem-Developers/AROS-An-operation-system-inside-Android/td-p/1441741 Icaros 1.5.2] || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit Also tested with Icaros 2.0.3. |- | Thinkpad X30 (2673) X31 (2884-xx2) X31t || i830 || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA only Radeon M6 Mobility}} || {{yes|AC97 - AD1981B codec}} || {{yes|USB 1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{no|Cisco Aironet or Intel 2915 but atheros with bios hacking}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2004 32bit sound bit distorted |- | <!--Name-->R50e R51 || <!--Chipset-->855M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel 855M use VESA}} || <!--Audio-->intel AC97 with AD1981B codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Intel 100 VE}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - |- | IBM Thinkpad T40 (2373) T41 T41p (2379) T42 T42p T43 T43p || Intel 8xx || {{partial|PIO}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI mobility 7500 9000 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97 playback}} || {{yes|uhci 1.1 and ehci 2.0}} || {{no|e1000}} || {{Maybe|Intel 2200bg bios locked but possible AR5BMB-44 AR5212 FRU 39T0081 mini PCI}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2004 32bit 16v IBM plug - Centrino Needs ATA=nodma option - issues with the inner chip of the SMT BGA graphics chip |- | Thinkpad X32 || i855 || {{yes|40, 60 or 80GB 2.5" PATA HDD}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA only ATI Mobility Radeon 7000 with 16MB}} || {{maybe| Intel AC'97 Audio with a AD1981B codec}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Intel 1000}} || {{no|Intel 2200 but atheros with bios hacking}} || Icaros 2.1 || 2004 32bit - 12.1" TFT display with 1024x768 resolution; 256 or 512MB PC2700 memory standard (2GB max) |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X40 X40t by Quanta || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel 800 (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel e1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel but most atheros with bios hacking - difficult though}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit last IBM design |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X41 (IBM) MT 1864 1865 2525 2526 2527 2528 x41t (Lenovo) MT 1866 1867 || <!--Chipset-->Intel with single core 1.5 1.6 and tablet 1.2GHz || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 915GML 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751M tg3}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel or MiniPCI Wi-Fi Atheros AR5BMB FRU 39T0081 but ordinary atheros 54meg needs risky bios hacking}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit - amongst first Lenovo design |- | <!--Name-->R52 (most 18xx) || <!--Chipset-->Intel 915 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 915GML 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->R52 1846, 1847, 1848, 1849, 1850, 1870 || <!--Chipset-->ATi 200m || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|ATI}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751M tg3}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad T60 T60P * 64bit - 6 or 8 is 16:10 on T60/p, eg. 8742-CTO 15.4" * 32bit - 1 and 2 are 14", 15" 4:3, like 2007-YM3 or 1952-CTO || <!--Chipset-->*any* T60/p will take a Core 2 Duo CPU with newer BIOS || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA (2D) with "p" graphics card (ATi V5200 or V5250) || <!--Audio-->{{no|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || {{no|e1000e 82573L}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel ipw3945 ABG but atheros with Middleton's or Zender BIOS hacking risky}} || Icaros 1.4 || <!--Comments-->2006 - |- | <!--Name-->X60 x60s x60t tablet || <!--Chipset-->945GMS 940GML || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|AD1981 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 3945 ABG or fru 39T5578 Atheros 5K AR5BXB6 ar5007eg with bios hacking}} || <!--Comments-->Icaros 1.4 || 2006 32bit - perhaps needs a zendered bios update but risky |- | <!--Name-->R60 R60e || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->intel 950 with optional radeon x1300 x1400 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with 1981HD codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel or Broadcom || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel 3945 or atheros fru 39T5578 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit |- | Thinkpad T61 T61p without Middleton's or Zender BIOS || Core 2 Duo CPU T7300 T8300 || {{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || Intel GMA (2D), NVS 140m or Quadro FX 570M () || {{no|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || {{no|e1000e 82573L}} || {{No|Intel but atheros with bios hacking risky}} || Icaros 1.6 || 2007 64bit |- | <!--Name-->X61 x61s X61T Tablet || <!--Chipset-->i965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 3100 (2D) slow 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|AD1984 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->82566DM || <!--Wireless-->{{maybe|Atheros AR5212 (some revisions use Intel WLAN runs very hot) bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || 2007 64bit possible <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit ultrabook running very hot - |- | <!--Name-->R61 R61i || <!--Chipset-->Intel 965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->intel 965 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with conexant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5787M || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit |- | Lenovo 3000 N200 || <!--Chipset-->Santa Rosa || {{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe| }} || {{yes|Geforce 7300 (2D)}} || {{yes|ALC262 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || {{no|Broadcom}} || {{no|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2007 64bit 3D graphics parts are supported but buggy. |- | Lenovo 3000 N200 / V200 || GM965 ICH9-M with Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo T5450 || {{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe| }} || {{yes|X3100 (2D)}} || {{Maybe|HD Audio ALC269VB or CX20549}} || {{yes| }} || {{no|BCM5906M}} || {{no|Intel 3965 / 4965AGN bios locked}} || Icaros 1.4.1 2.1 || 2007 64bits of laptop works |- | <!--Name-->X300 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo Merom SL7100 1.2GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1.8 inch || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel X3100}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio AD1984A || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 4965 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit 13.3" TFT 1440x900 (WXGA+) with LED backlight |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad Edge 11″ AMD K325 || <!--Chipset-->M880G || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA for ATI HD4200}} || <!--Audio-->{{{{maybe|}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 8111}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|8192CE (Realtek 8176) bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 little support |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X301 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo Penryn SU9400 Su9600 with GM45 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1.8 inch micro SATA (uSATA) || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel X4500}} || <!--Audio-->AD1984A || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 5xxx WiFi link 5100, 5150, 5300 and 5350 (WiMAX) bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 WXGA+ (1440×900) LED backlight display - 2774 or 4057 Alps and 2776 Synaptics touchpad - optical bay interface is Legacy IDE (PATA) - Addonics ADMS18SA, Lycom ST-170m |- | <!--Name-->X100e || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon Neo Single-Core (MV-40) and dual cores || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|2.5in tray in ide mode in bios}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa ATI HD3200}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with CX20582 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8111}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek r8192se bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 11.6in 1366 x 768 - 20v 65W round barrel - enter f1 setup f11 diagnostics f12 boot list - runs very warm - |- | <!--Name-->SL400 SL500 || Intel || {{N/A}} || {{Yes|IDE mode}} || {{Maybe|Nvidia 9400M}} || {{Maybe|ALC269}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{Maybe|RTL8169}} || {{Maybe| bios locked}} || || |- | <!--Name-->SL410 SL510 || 965 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE mode}} || {{maybe|Intel GMA X4500M (some 2D)}} || {{yes|HD Audio with ALC269 codec - speaker and ear phones}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{yes|RTL8169}} || {{Maybe| bios locked}} || [http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=645774&postcount=28 Icaros 1.3] || 2009 64bit SL-410 |- | <!--Name-->T400 ODM Wistron || <!--Chipset-->i || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel 4500MHD works limited 2d no 3d - optional switchable Nvidia or ATi HD3470 untested}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with Codec CX20561 (T400)}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel e1000e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Wifi Link 5100 (AGN) half height card with FRU 43Y6493 or 5300 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 20v lenovo plug - non-free firmware required iwlwifi |- | <!--Name-->T400s || <!--Chipset-->i || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VSEA for Intel 4500MHD works limited 2d no 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with CX20585}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel e1000e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Wifi Link 5100 (AGN) half height card with FRU 43Y6493 or 5300 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit non-free firmware required iwlwifi |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo T500 T510 || <!--Chipset-->i || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA for switchable Intel / AMD HD 3640}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|Intel HD Audio with a CX20561 (t500) and CX20585 (T510) codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or Lenovo branded unit Atheros AR5007EG AR5BHB63 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit |- | <!--Name-->X200 ODM Wistron [http://itgen.blogspot.co.uk/2008/12/installing-arch-linux-on-lenovo.html X200s] and x200t tablet model without [http://fsfe.soup.io/post/590865884/the-unconventionals-blog-English-Flashing-Libreboot-on Risky flash of the Libreboot BIOS] || <!--Chipset-->GM45 GS45 with slow Celeron, SU or faster SL Core 2 Duos CPUs || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe||Intel GMA 4500 MHD 2D but slow software 3D tunnel 10 gearbox 8 tests}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel HD Audio with Conexant CX20561 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{{Yes|USB 2.0 USB SD card reads and writes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82567LM Gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel Pro 5100 5150 5300 5350 AGN due to whitelist prevention bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.1 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 12.1" CCFL (webcam version) or LED backlit (no webcam). no support for 54mm express cards or Authentec 2810 fingerprint reader - thinkpoint only no trackpad - thinklight - |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo T410 T410s T410si || <!--Chipset-->qm57 with i5 m || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use vesa Intel 5700MHD (Ironlake) core processor igp with optional Nvidia Quadro NVS 3100M}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio Conexant CX20585 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82577lm gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel n 6200 or Atheros AR9280 AR5BHB92 half size minipcie detected bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2 xmas || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit battery life much lower with Nvidia graphics version - no support firewire ricoh r5c832 - ricoh sd card - series 5 3400 |- | <!--Name-->X201 X201s x201t || <!--Chipset-->QM57 Core i3 370m, i5 M520 2.4GHz or i7 620LM 2.0GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|vesa 2d on Intel GMA HD}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel HD with [https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=94.0 Conexant 20585] codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2010 X201 arrandale power consumption limits battery life to 3-4 hours for 48Whr though to 6 on 72Whr - 12.5" WXGA |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->T420 type 4180 4236 t420s T520 4239 L520 || <!--Chipset-->i5 2540, 2520 or i7 2860QM 2620 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS but not AHCI}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 136 x 768 - Intel HD 3000 with optional NVS 4200M Nvidia optimus or Radeon HD 565v }} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio playback ear phones only with Conexant CX20672 codec - AHI 6.27}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO 1000 82579LM}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek 1x1, Intel Ultimate-N 6205 6250 2x2 6300 3x3 all bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2.2 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit add noacpi to grub boot options - screen 1600x900 or 1366x768 - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad W520 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 3000 with nvidia quadro 1000m 2000m}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel Hd with CX 20585 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82579 Lm}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6000s}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit optimus issues with Nvidia Intel hybrids unless bumblebee switching - 15.6" TFT display with 1366x768 (HD), 1600x900 (HD+) or 1920x1080 (FHD) resolution with LED backlight |- | <!--Name-->X220 x220t || <!--Chipset-->QM67 express, dual i5 2520M or i7 dual 2620M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS but not AHCI}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D 1024 x 768 for Intel HD Graphics 3000}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel HD playback with Conexant 20672 codec ear phones and speaker - AHI 6.27 6.34}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82579LM}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 Wi-Fi bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3, Aros One USB 1.6 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit possible - uses slimmer 7 mm storage sata devices - NEC USB 3.0 on i7's no support - unwanted trackpad gestures when palm rests on it - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots - external battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X120e, x121e Quanta FL8A DAFL8AMB8D0 Rev D || <!--Chipset-->Hudson M1 with slow AMD E350 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->yes || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA ATI 0x9802}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ATI SBx00 Azalia HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->USB 2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8169 RTL8111 || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom 0x0576 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit 11.6 inch screen - 1 inch think - chiclet keyboard |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad S205 G575 G585, Edge 11 E325 || <!--Chipset-->Slow E-350 later E-450 with A75 or AMD Athlon II Neo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA HD6310}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - removeable and plug in battery - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad S206 || <!--Chipset-->AMD E300 1.3GHZ Dual || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD Audio with CX20672 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|3.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom 10/100 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6" and integrated battery - Conexant® |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo x130e or x131e edu || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD E-300 or E-450 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon HD 6310 or 6320 }} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio Realtek ALC269VC / ALC3202 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|USB 30 and USB 20}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111 RTL8168B || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8188CE or Broadcom BCM43228 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - rubber edged bumper for K12 education market - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad Edge E135 E335 || <!--Chipset-->amd dual E-300, E2-1800 or E2-2000 slow atom like A68M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|SATA 3.0Gb/s 2.5" wide 7mm high}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA radeon 6310 or 7340 vga or hdmi}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HDAudio with Realtek ALC3202 codec}} || <!--USB-->2 usb3, 1 powered usb2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 8111f}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek WLAN whitelist bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6 inch to 13.3in 1366x768 - Acrylonitrile-Butadiene-Styrene (ABS) plastic case - external battery - 20v 65w lenovo barrel ac - 2 ddr3 sodimm 8Gb max - |- | <!--Name-->x140e E145 || <!--Chipset-->E1 2500 dual or A4 5000 apu quad BGA769 (FT3) || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon 8260 or 8330}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Realtek ALC269VC aka ALC3202 codec}} || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111F or Broadcom || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8188CE 11b/g/n or FRU Intel version}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit 11.6" 1366x768, non-glare and Broadcom bluetooth - education student market rugged model - both CPUs soldered - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad Edge E525 E535 LENOVO IDEAPAD Z575 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-3420M A8-3500M later A8-4500M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD 6620G later 7640G}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Conexant codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|USB2 but not usb3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 Realtek 8111}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6in 1368 x 768 matt - 65W 20v lenovo round psu - thick desktop replacement - ThinkPad Edge E520 E520S E525 E530 E545 E535 E530C Laptop Keyboard swap - |- | <!--Name-->T430 t430i T530 || <!--Chipset-->ivy bridge i5 3320 3230m on Intel QM77 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 1366 x 768 for Intel HD 4000 with optional Nvidia 5400M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with Realtek ALC3202 aka ALC269VC codec playback ear head phones - HDA 6.27}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2 ports and usb2.0 devices thru usb 3.0 ports}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel e1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or Atheros AR9285 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit fan noise and chiclet keyboard, synaptics trackpad 06CB:CE2D 06CB:7F28 - HD+ 1600x900 or 768p - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad L430 L530 || <!--Chipset-->Intel HM series 7 chipset i5 3210M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 4000}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with Realtek ALC269VC codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8169 rtl810x || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 6205 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit alps trackpad - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad W530 || <!--Chipset-->Intel HM series 7 chipset i5 3210M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 4000 with Nvidia GK107GLM Quadro K2000M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with Realtek ALC3202 ALC269VC codec }} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82579LM || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6300 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - ricoh sdxc slot - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X230 x230t || <!--Chipset-->Intel QM67 express i5 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with ALC269 aka ALC3202}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|I}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - 12.2 in 1366 x 768 - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots - external battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad T440 t440s t440p T540 L440 L540 || <!--Chipset-->intel haswell 8 series Core i3 to i7 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA - Intel 4600 or Nvidia}} || <!--Audio-->Intel HD with Realtek ALC3232 alc269 codec or ALC292 || <!--USB-->2 usb 3.0 and 2 usb 2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel AC 7260 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 14 and 15" models with glitchy trackpad and no physical buttons - IPS options available - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components or 4 variants of key caps - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X240 x240t ultrabook TN (20AL0081GE), HD IPS display without touch (20AL007NGE) and touch (20AL0076GE) but all 65% sRGB || <!--Chipset-->haswell i7-4600U i5 4200U 4210U 4300U i3-4100U - two batteries, one internal 3cell 45N1110 (45N1111) or 45N1112 (FRU 45N1113) and external 3 / 6cell 45N1126 (FRU 45N1127) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in 7mm sata (torq t7), m.2 2242 in WWAN slot (m and b key NGFF Sata) || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for Intel 4400 for vga or mini-dp}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 0x8086 0x0a0c 0x9c20 with Realtek ALC3232 aka ALC292 0x10ec 0x0292}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel® 82577LM Gigabit (Hanksville) }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel 7260n I218-V or I218-LM bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 12.2in 1366 x 768 or 1080p - 1 ddr3l sodimm slot - no keyboard spill drainage and at least 2 variants of key caps - lenovo rectangle pwr ac - TPM 1.2 - Bluetooth 4.0 no support - large touchpad with integrated but no physical buttons - bottom panel loosening 8 retained screws - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad T450 T450s t450p T550 L550 || <!--Chipset-->Intel i5 4300U i3 5010U i5 5200U 5300U i7 5500U 5600U soldered || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 5500 5600 with optional nvidia 940M}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD Audio with ALC3232 codec Realtek ALC3232 0x10ec 0x0292}} || <!--USB-->{{no|3 USB 3.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Wireless AC 7265 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit 14" 1366 x 768, 1600 x 900 or IPS 1920x1080 - Broadwell - keyboard swap requires removal of all components and key cap versions - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad x250 x250t || <!--Chipset-->i3 5010U i5 5200U 5300U i7 5600U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|2.5in 7mm or m.2 2242 sata (m and b key)}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Realtek ALC3232 codec / Intel HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{no|up to 3 USB 3.0 partly boots from usb but stops waiting for usb}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel I218 extension port}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel AC 7265 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.0 USB || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - 1366 x 768, 1920 × 1080 12.5" screen - Fn and F1 for setup bios - F12 boot options - 1 ddr3l sodimm slot - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad E540 || <!--Chipset-->Intel || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2D for Intel gfx}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HDAudio with Conexant CX20751-21Z codec}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB2 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 8111gus}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel Wireless-N 7260 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 15.6in 1376 x 786 - plastic construction - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad Edge E545 * key cap swap with E440 E531 E540 L440 L450 T431S T440S T440P T540 * Keyboard swap L540 T540p W540 Edge E531 E540 W541 T550 W550S L560 P50S T560 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Socket FS1r2 A6-5350M (2c2t) or A8-4500M, A8-5550M, A10-5750M (4c4t) with A76M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in 9.5mm - enter UEFI bios with Enter or ESC, config section, sata into compatibility and security, secure boot disabled - mini sata DVD burner PLSD DS8A9SH || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD 7640G, 8450G, 8550G, 8650G ?? Islands}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|VOID 6.3 for HDAudio 8086:1c20 Conexant CX20590 Analog 0x14f1 0x506e, CX20671 codec 0x14f1 0x5069, or audio over Trinity HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|boots pen drives from yellow usb port but not from blue USB3 ones}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 1GbE 8111F}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM43142 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.3 USB with noacpi added to end of grub2 boot line but no further boot for usb3 socket/stick || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit SSE 4.1 and AVX - 15.6in 1366 x 768 matt - 20v 65w 90w round lenovo plug psu - 2 DDR3 SODIMM slots stacked up to 16GB Max - external 6 Cell Li-Ion Battery 48Wh - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery in wifi area jp1202 - amd v(tm) virtualization not working - |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo G505s || <!--Chipset-->AMD A8 5550M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD 8550M islands chipset}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Qualcomm Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit 15.6" - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad Flex 15D 20334 || <!--Chipset-->AMD a6 5200, e1 2100, || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Radeon R3 southern islands chipset}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 8169 rtl810x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k whitelist for wifi swap}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo B50-45, G50-45 80E3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A8-6410 (2c), A6-6400 (2c), AMD A8 (4c), AMD A4-6300 (2c), AMD E2-6200 (2c), AMD E1-6050 (2c) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|I}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit 15.6" 1366 x 768 - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad E455 E555 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-7000 A8-7100 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R5 }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Conexant® CX20751 codec 0x14f1 0x510f}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111GUS || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8723BE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - 14 768p or up to 15.6in 1080p - 2 DDR3L slots max 16G - no TPM - keyboard swap but Lenovo E550 E550C E555 E560 E560C E565 range has at least 2 different key cap variants - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Z40-75 Z50-75 || <!--Chipset-->A10-7300 4c 4t || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R6 6CUs}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - heavy - external battery - slim box lenovo ac - dvdrw - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad E465 E565 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-8500P 8600P A8-8700P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Conexant® CX11852 codec 0x14f1 0x5}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6" 1366 x 768 to 1080p IPS - Polycarbonate, ABS Plastic shell casing - internal battery - |- |<!--Name-->AMD platform codes *Beema: ABM, *Carizzo-L: ACL, *Carizzo: ACZ, *Godavari: AGR, *Kaveri: AKV, *Stoney Ridge: ASR, *Stoney Ridge: AST (NB), || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> *Summit Ridge: ASU, *Bristol Ridge-L: ABL, *Bristol Ridge: ABR, *Raven Ridge: ARR, *Picasso: API |- | <!--Name-->LENOVO IDEAPAD 500-15ACZ || <!--Chipset-->AMD 4c A10-8700P A8-8600P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5 M.2 || <!--Gfx-->VESA for Radeon R5 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek Atheros Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bits - 15.6" 768p to 1080p - 2 ddr3l slots max 16gb - 45w rectangle psu - |- | <!--Name-->lenovo yoga 510-14ast 8059, || <!--Chipset-->A6-9210 A9-9410 and Intel Xeon E3-1200 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 45w 20v round barrel 4.0 * 1.7mm fits Yoga 310 510 520 710 - Harman Audio - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->V110-14AST V110-15AST V110 (15") || <!--Chipset-->AMD E1-9000, A6-9210 to A9-9410 all dual core || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 2.5in sata most 7mm some 9.5mm || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD R2, R3, R5 or R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in mostly 768p to 1080p 220 nits - 20v 45W or 65W lenovo slim rectangle end ac - keyboard swap hard - integrated 24WHr battery - 4gb ddr4 ram soldered and 1 2133Mhz ddr4 slot max 12Gb - abs plastic - |- |<!--Name--> *ThinkPad A275 12in (1 ddr4 1866MHz sodimm) *Thinkpad A475 14in (2 ddr4 1866MHz sodimm) - both internal (main) and external (secondary) battery || <!--Chipset-->A10-8730B A10-9700B 2.500Ghz later A12-8830B A12-9800B all 4c4t (AVX2 on 9000s) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|Sata3 port for 7mm 2.5in ssd hdd with mbr and not gpt, setup in other machines - secure boot disabled, bios startup boot set to legacy then uefi - WWAN slot cannot use M.2 2242 sata with M and B key}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD R5 or R7}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 0x1022, 0x157a 6.34 ahi with ALC3268 codec 0x10ec, 0x0298 aka ALC298 - VOID even with QUERY / QUERYD added}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 starts to boot pendrives but stops, usb mouse not detected}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 RTL8111EPV, shell pinging google.com works but apps like OWB start when copied to RAM: and run from there}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8822BE WLAN whitelist locked cannot swap}} || <!--Test Distro-->{{No|AROSOne USB 1.8 with noacpi noapic noioapic added to grub2 boot line then hanging on bootable media (kitty eyes)}} || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit 12 or 14in 1366 x 768 poor screen - 45W or 65w lenovo rectangle ac adapter - F1 enter bios and F12 boot order - 6 retained screws and snap on base - keyboard swap not easy - 2100 error message no solution except using only efi/gpt bios option - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E475 E575 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9500b A10-9600P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Conexant CX11852 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek R8111GUS || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 15.6" 1366 x 768 to 1080p IPS - Polycarbonate, ABS Plastic shell casing - internal battery - two DDR4 SO-DIMM sockets clocks down with 1866MHz DDR4 memory controller - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Ideapad S145-14AST S145-15AST || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9225, A9-9425, A10-9600P 7th Gen, AMD A12-9720P Mobo 5B20P11110 NMB341 Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon 8670A 8670M 8690M GCN 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A|N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 or Realtek RTL8821CE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 14in or 15.6" 768p or 1080p - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Ideapad V145-14AST V145-15AST, 81mt, Ideapad 310, Ideapad 320-15ABR, Ideapad 330-14AST 330-15AST 330-17AST || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9225, A9-9425 (2c2t), A10-9600P 7th Gen, AMD A12-9720P Mobo 5B20P11110 NMB341 Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon 8670A 8670M 8690M GCN 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with ALC236 codec, }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|rtl8169 10/100 only}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 or Realtek RTL8821CE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 14in or 15.6" 768p or 1080p - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - 45w 6w slim ac adapter - keyboard swap problematic - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo V330-14ARR 81B1, Ideapad 330s 15ARR, || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R3 2200U, 2300U or R5 2500U Raven Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3, 6 or 8 up to 1Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|Realtek 1GbE but not on 330s}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14" 20mm thick 1.8kg - 20v 2.25a 45w ac round barrel - chiclet keyboard - 4Gb soldered and 1 ddr4 sodimm - TPM 2.0 in bios - battery internal about 30whr - 4GB soldered - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad Edge E485 E585 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R3 2300U R5 2500U R7 2700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme maybe 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Vega 3, 8 or 10}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with CX11852 codec }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 rtl8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in or 15.6in 768p or 1080p - USB-C 20V 2.25A 3.25A avoid knocking charging port as damages easily - 2 ddr4 sodimm slot max 2400Mhz 32GB - internal battery only - TPM 2.0 software - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad A285 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen PRO 3 2200U 5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata port and m.2 sata ngff port || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC ALC3287 codec aka ALC257 }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Mini-Ethernet/Docking}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Qualcomm - WLAN whitelist no more??}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 12.5in 1080p - avoid usb-c port being lifted/moved whilst in use as damages laptop easily - internal and external battery - soldered ram 8gb or 16gb - WWAN whitelist - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad A485 bios setting [https://github.com/PSPReverse/PSPTool AMD PSP Platform Security Processor Key] || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen PRO 5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata port and m.2 sata ngff port || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC ALC3287 codec aka ALC 257 }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUL}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Qualcomm - WLAN whitelist no more??}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in 768p, 1080p or 1440p - avoid usb-c port being lifted/moved whilst in use as damages laptop easily - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 32gb - internal and external battery - WWAN whitelist - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Yoga 530-14ARR 81H9 || <!--Chipset-->R5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in 1080p - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo V14-ADA, V15-ADA 82C700E4UK || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 3050U, 3150U, 3250U, Ryzen 5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1x 2.5" HDD + 1x M.2 SSD NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Qualcomm}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14 or 15.6in - internal battery - 4GB soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - keyboard swap problematic - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad E Edge E495 20NE, Edge E595, || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 3200U r5 3500U, R7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 nvme maybe 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Vega 3, 8 or 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with synaptic formerly conexant CX11880 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14in or 15.6in 768p or 1080p - ddr4 soldered with 1 dimm slot - USB-C charger issue was fixed with a BIOS update, if not the charger shorts the motherboard - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo v155-15api 81V5 V155 (15" AMD) budget all plastic build || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon 300U, Ryzen 3 3200U r5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 nvme and usually 2.5in 7mm sata - install on mbr not gpt 2.5in in another compatible machine - mini sata dvd/cd da-8aesh11b || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D 1920x1080, 1280x1024, 800x600 work for Vega 3 or 8 with up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken but hdmi 1.4b no output}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio add 0x1022, 0x15E3 with Realtek ALC257 codec 0x10ec, 0x0257 - no issues with 32bit}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 not detected with no usb-c ports}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS works well with 32bit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.8 USB 32bit and deadwoods native x64 iso with grub line ATA=32bit noacpi || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 768p or 1080p 200nits tn panel - 4Gb ddr4 2400MHz soldered with 1 dimm slot max 20Gb - round ac 20V 65W psu 4.0mm x 1.7mm - MS created a new protocol, HID over I2C so [https://askubuntu.com/questions/1033033/elantech-touchpad-does-not-work-i2c-hid elantech i2c-hid i2c PS2 hybrid trackpad] 04F3:3140 touchpad not functioning - internal sunwoda battery L18D3PF1 35Whr but also L18L3PF1 L18C3PF2 - Fn+F2 to enter bios and F12 boot order - no sd card slot - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad C340-13AP1, IdeaPad S340-14API C340-14API || <!--Chipset-->R3 3200U, R5 3500U, R7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3, 8, 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 13in convertible or 14" laptop - 4GB soldered - usb-c charging care needed - keyboard swap problematic - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo IdeaPad L340-15API 81LW001CUS L340-17API untested || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon 300U, Ryzen 3 3200U r5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 nvme and usually 2.5in sata - install on mbr not gpt 2.5in in another compatible machine - mini sata dvd/cd da-8aesh11b || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Vega 3 or 8 with up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken - hdmi 1.4b}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio add 0x1022, 0x15E3 with Realtek ALC236 0x10ec, 0x0236}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 not detected}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.8 USB || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 768p or 1080p 200nits - 4Gb ddr4 2400MHz soldered with 1 dimm slot max 20Gb - round ac 20V 65W psu 4.0mm x 1.7mm - elan trackpad not functioning - internal battery - Return or F1 to enter bios and F12 boot order - no sd card slot - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad S540-14API, Ideapad S145-14API, S145-15API || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3020e to 300U, 5 3500U, 7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme, some may have 1 2.5in space || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega 3, 8 or 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|3.1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|RTL8822BE AC (1×1)}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - keyboard swap problematic - sd card slot - no cd dvd - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot 2400Mhz - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad T295 T495 T495s X395 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 3300U, R5 Pro 3500U or R7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 NVMe up to 2280 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 6, 8 or 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111EPV not on slim T495s}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8822BE or Intel AC 9260}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14in 768p but mostly FHD 1080p 250 nits - internal battery - ram 8gb or 16gb 2400Mhz soldered with 1 ddr4 slot on T495 only - TPM 2.0 - usb-c charging avoid knock whilst in use - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 Gen2, E15 Gen 2 (AMD) 20T8, - lenovo has a mobile phone PC Diagnostic App for error/beep codes || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 4300U, 5 4500U, 7 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2 m.2 nvme, 1 2242 and 1 2280 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD Radeon up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 15.6in 1080p 220 nits - TPM 2.0 - usb-c charging of internal 45Whr battery - 4gb ddr4 3200Mhz soldered and 1 ddr4 sodimm slot max 20Gb - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkPad T14, Lenovo L14 Gen 1, L15 Gen 1, ThinkPad P14s Gen 1 (AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 4300u, 5 4500U, Ryzen 5 Pro 4650U, Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R5 }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111EPV (DASH models) or RTL8111HN}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - USB-C charger avoid moving whilst in use - 14" or 15" 1080p - keyboard swap problematic - 8gb or 16gb 3200MHz soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - sd card slot - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkPad X13 Gen1 AMD, || <!--Chipset-->AMD RYZEN 3 4450U, 5 4650U or 7 4750U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->One drive, up to 512GB M.2 2242 SSD or 1TB M.2 2280 SSD NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA Radeon up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{unk| but USB-C ports can fail}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Realtek RTL8111EPV, mini RJ-45 to RJ-45 via optional ThinkPad Ethernet Extension Adapter Gen 2}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek Wi-Fi 6 RTL8852AE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 13.3" HD 1366x768 to 1080p - USB-C port care needed as damages easily - Memory soldered to systemboard, no slots, dual-channel DDR4-3200 - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkBook 14 G2, 15 G2 Are ITL || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 4500u, 7 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->14in has 2 m.2 nvme but 15in has 1 nvme and might have 2.5in metal sata caddy || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in or 15in 1080p - usb-c charging powered - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot 3200mhz - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad 5 14ARE05 (81YM) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 3 4300U (4c4t), 5 4500u (6c6t) 4600U (6c12t), 7 4700u (8c16t) on AMD Promontory Bixby FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1x M.2 2242 slot and may have 1x M.2 2280 NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 6 hdmi up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel ax200 wifi 6}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit 14inch 768p or 1080p - round lenovo ac - 4gb, 8gb, or 16gb ddr4 3200Mhz ram soldered non upgradable - keyboard swap problematic - integrated battery - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->Ideapad Flex 5 81X2 || <!--Chipset-->AMD R5 4500u, R7 4800U, R3 5300 R5 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 NVMe ssd || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC? codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3.1 gen 1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|realtek ac wifi}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit abs plastic case 14in convertible 1080p touch low nits - 65w usb-c psu ac - possible wacom esr note taking pen supplied - ram soldered DDR4 - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkBook 14 G3, 15 G3 ACL || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 14in or 15in 1080p - usb-c charging powered - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 G3, E15 Gen 3 (AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 5300U 5500U 5650U 5700U 5800U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->up to 2 m.2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|realtek or intel }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - - usb-c charging issues lenovo has a mobile phone PC Diagnostic App for error/beep codes - keyboard swap problematic - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 3200Mhz sodimm slot - |- |<!--Name-->V15 G2 ALC 82KD || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 5300U, 5 5500U, 7 5700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme 2280 with some having 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H-CG}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 15.6" FHD 1080p - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - 65w round ac adaptor - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L15 Gen 2 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 5000 series AMD Ryzen 3 5400U (4c8t), 5 5600U, 5 5650U (6c12t), 7 PRO 5850U (8c16t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111EPV (DASH models) or RTL8111HN}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 15.6in 768p or 1080p - usb-c charging - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr4 3200Mhz sodimm slot - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 Gen 4, E15 Gen 4 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 3 5425u, 5 5625U, 7 5825u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 (14") or 2 (15") nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - usb-c charging - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 3200Mhz sodimm slot - L19M3PDA 45Whr battery - U24 TPS65994 and QB6 QB5 mosfet issues - |- |<!--Name-->V15 G3 ALC || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 6500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15"FHD - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L15 Gen 3 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 6000 series || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit- 15.6in 1080p - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Yoga 7 14ARB7 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5, 6600U, 7 6800U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD 660M or 680M || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with ALC3306 aka alc287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 14in 1800p ips 300 nits - usb-c ac charging 71whr integrated battery - sd card slot - digital pen input - 8gb, 6gb or 32gb soldered ddr5 ram - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 g5, E15 Gen 5 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7000 series 7 7730U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB4 thunderbolt}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit- 15.6in 1080p - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkbook 14 G6 ABP IRL || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 7530U 7730U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 untested}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 14in 1200p or 1440p - 100W USB-C AC power adapter - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad Slim 5 Light 14ABR8 Laptop || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 7330U (4c8t) 5 7530U (6c12t) 7 7730U (8c16t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2 m.2 nvme slot - 1 2242, 1 2280 || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 14in 1080p - 8Gb or 16Gb soldered ram - usb-c charging only - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad X13 Gen 4 (13" AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7480U 7040U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{unk| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 - avoid usb-c port damage - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L15 Gen 4 (15" AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7480U 7040U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{unk| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo V15 G4 AMN || <!--Chipset-->AMD AMD Athlon™ Gold 7220U (2c4t), AMD Athlon™ Silver 7120U (2c2t), AMD Ryzen™ 3 7320U (4c8t), AMD Ryzen™ 5 7520U (4c8t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for AMD 610M HDMI® and USB-C}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDaudio with ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Gigabit Ethernet, 1x RJ-45 || <!--Wireless-->{{no|wifi 6}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6" FHD (1920x1080) - 8 or 16Gb soldered - 65W round tip (3-pin) AC adapter or USB-C - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad e14 G6, e15 Gen 6 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7000 series AMD Ryzen™ 7 7735HS || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit- 15.6in 1080p - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L16 (16" AMD), ThinkPad T14 Gen 5 (14" AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 8000 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB4}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Samsung==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="2%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->NP-Q1 Q1 || <!--Chipset-->Celeron-M 353 ULV 600Mhz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes|1.8" SFF HDD 20 / 60 GB }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 915 2D and 3D opengl1 tunnel 95 gearbox 68}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec - head phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Yes|Atheros 5006EX}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit old style tablet UltraMobile PC UMPC - Wacom serial resistive pen or finger no support - 1 sodimm ddr2 max 1Gb - LCD 7" WVGA (800 x 480) - CompactFlash port Type II - |- | <!--Name-->NP Q1U Ultra Mobile PC UMPC Q1F NP-Q1-F000 || <!--Chipset-->Intel A100 600 / A110 Stealey 800 MHz CPU || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|GMA 950 2D and 3D opengl1}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio 1986}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros 5006EX}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit 1024×600 - sd card slot - |- | <!--Name-->NP P500 family P500Y || <!--Chipset-->AMD with SB600 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Ati x1250}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| Audio with codec }} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8039 yukon}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|Atheros G}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->64bit possible - 15.4 tft display - cheap plastic okay build - 19v propriety end - |- | <!--Name-->R505 R510 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros G || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->R520 R522 R610H R620 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Mobile Core i3 Intel PM45 82801M ICH9-M|| <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 (RV730) || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC272 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Marvell Yukon 88E8057 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR5007EG || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2010 64 bit possible |- | NP-R530 || || {{N/A}} || {{partial|IDE mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{partial|HD Audio playback}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{no|Marvell}} || {{no|Atheros AR9285}} || Icaros 1.5.2 || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Samsung R730 17.3 Essential Notebook NP-R730-JA02UK, NP-R730-JA01SE, R730-JT06 || <!--Chipset-->Intel HM55 Dual Core T4300 i3-370M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for Intel 4500MHD and GeForce G 310M with 1 VGA, 1 HDMI}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio ALC??? codec Realtek}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell Yukon 88E8059 PCI-E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom, Intel or Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro-->Deadwoods ISO 2023-11 || <!--Comments-->2010 64bit - 17.3in HD 1280 x 720 pixels low contrast or some 1600x900 - 2 DDR3 sodimm slots - 2.84 kg 6.26 lbs - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-305U1A-A01DE-Subnotebook.68246.0.html Series 3 Samsung 305u1a] || <!--Chipset-->AMD Zacate E350 or E450 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon 6320 || <!--Audio-->ALC ACL 269 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom 4313 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit |- | <!--Name-->NP-RV415 NP-RV515 || <!--Chipset-->E350 or E450 plus A50M chipset || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon HD 6470 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio Realtek || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111 8168B || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9285 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit slow - |- | <!--Name-->Series 5 NP535U3C || <!--Chipset-->A6-4455M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in || <!--Gfx-->radeon || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit slow - 13.3in 1368 x 768 - plastic build - 65w 19v psu - |- | <!--Name-->series 3 NP355V5C || <!--Chipset-->A6-4400M, A8-4500M, A10-4600M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in || <!--Gfx-->7640M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit - 15.4in 1368 x 768 - plastic build - 65w 19v psu - |- | <!--Name-->Samsung ATIV Book 9 Lite NP905S3G || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-1450 quad 1GHz Temash atom like || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->128gb || <!--Gfx-->AMD 8250 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek rtl8169 but only with mini LAN AA-AE2N12B Ethernet Adapter RJ45 dongle}} || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9565 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 13.3 TN glossy 1366 x 768 200nits 60% srgb - plastic case - 26W battery built in with 4hr life - 19V 2.1A 3.0*1.0mm psu - 1 ddr3l slot max 4gb - 720p webcam - mini hdmi out - 1w speakers - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Toshiba==== [[#top|...to the top]] Order of Build Quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Equium Satellite (Pro) Libretto Portege Tecra </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Tecra 8100 8200 9000 || 440BX || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|S3 Savage MX 3D (VESA only)}} || {{no|Yamaha DS-XG ymf744 ymf-754}} || {{yes|USB1.1 only}} || {{N/A}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.5 || little support |- | <!--Name-->Tecra 9100 || <!--Chipset-->810 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|S3 Savage IX}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|ymf754}} || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->eeee pro100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->PSU Adapter For Toshiba Tecra 9000 9100 A1 A10 A11 A3 A3X A4 A5 A7 M1 M2 M3 M4 M5 M7 M9 R10 S1 series 75 Watt 15V 5A |- | [http://tuxmobil.org/toshiba_sp4600.html Satellite Pro 4600] || i810 || IDE || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Trident Cyber Blade XP (VESA only)}} || {{no|YAMAHA DS-XG AC97 ymf754}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel e100}} || {{no|Agere (internal PCMCIA)}} || || little support |- | Satellite 2805 S603 || Intel 815 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|nVidia GeForce2 Go}} || {{no|Yamaha Corp YMF 754}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO/100}} || {{dunno}} || || little support |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A10 S167 S1291 - A15 A20 A25 || <!--Chipset-->P4M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GM or Radeon || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139 || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel 2100, Agere or Atheros PA3399U 1MPC minipci}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->a few models came with antenna leads |- | Satellite [http://eu.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/jsp/SUPPORTSECTION/discontinuedProductPage.do?service=EU&com.broadvision.session.new=Yes&PRODUCT_ID=76230 A30-714] || P4-M / 82845 i845 || {{yes|82801}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes}} || {{yes|RTL8139}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || nice laptop, drawbacks: heavy, really hot (P4-3.06 GHz!!) - A30 (EU) A33 (Australian) A35 (USA) - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A40 A45 || <!--Chipset-->P4M or Celeron M with Intel 845 865 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GME or Radeon 7000 Mobility || <!--Audio-->AC97 Realtek || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5002G 5004G - PA3299U mini pci || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - A40 S161 A40-S1611 A40-2701, A45-S120 A45-S1201 S130 S1301 S1501 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite a50 A55 a60-s156 Equium A60 PSA67E A65 || <!--Chipset-->P4M or Celeron M with Intel 845 865 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GME or Radeon 7000 Mobility || <!--Audio-->AC97 Realtek || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5002G 5004G - PA3299U mini-pci || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A70 A75-S206 A80 A85-S107 || <!--Chipset-->P4M or Celeron-M with Intel 845 865 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GME or Radeon 7000 Mobility || <!--Audio-->AC97 Realtek || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5002G 5004G - PA3299U mini-pci || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5.1 || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - |- | Toshiba Satellite Pro M30 || intel 855 || {{yes|boots with ATA=nodma option}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{yes|Intel PRO/100 VE}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.5 || nice laptop with some support |- | <!--Name-->Portege M300 - M200 tablet || <!--Chipset-->855GM with 1.2GHz Pentium M 753 || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2d only - tablet with nvidia 5200 go}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 STAC 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->little support |- | <!--Name-->Tecra M2 M2-S || <!--Chipset-->Intel 855P Pentium-M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->nvidia fx go5200 32mb or 64mb agp || <!--Audio-->AC97 1981B || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Intel Pro || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - PSU 15V 5A - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro L20 267 (PSL2YE PSL2XE) PSL25E L30 || <!--Chipset-->Celeron M 370 1.4 1.5GHz, 1.73Ghz with RC410M SB400 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - Ati x200}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|[https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-490297-start-0.html ALC861]}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Boots usb sticks}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8139 Realtek 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros mini-pci should work maybe not working with ATi chipset or need to swap??}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit 14" pioneer dvd-rw - 19v |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L30 PSL30E L33 PSL33E || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 800 or ATi RC410 x200 || <!--Audio-->AC97 AD1981B or HD Audio ALC861 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros or Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->L30 PSL30L 101 PSL33E 113 115 134 00M019 - |- | Satellite Pro M40 313 psm44e || AMD with Ati || {{yes|boots with ATA=nodma}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{yes|}} || {{maybe|atheros askey ar5bmb5 mini pci}} || || 2005 32bit - nice laptop with some support |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L40 PSL40E PSL40L, PSL43E || <!--Chipset-->945GM with U7700 1.3GHz ULV || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945 || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD with AD1986A codec}} || <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR24xx Askey || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.3 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit only - - 12X 13G 139 14B 143 15J 19O - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L45 PSL40U S7409 S2416 || <!--Chipset-->945GM with Celeron M 440 1.86 GHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945 || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD with AD1986A codec}} || <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR24xx Askey || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.3 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit only - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro A100 || <!--Chipset-->940G || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia G72M Quadro NVS 110M GeForce Go 7300 / Ati (PSAA3E)|| <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC861 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 100 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 swap with atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A110 159 (PSAB0), Equium A110 (PSAB2E), Satellite A110 233 (PSAB6), || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->ALC861 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8136 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro A120 PSAC0 PSAC1 PSAC1E || <!--Chipset-->Core Solo GMA 950 to T2300 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 945 || <!--Audio-->ALC262 or AC97 AD1981B || <!--USB-->UHCI EHCI || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros Ar5001 or Intel or Broadcom || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->15V 4A charger - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro A120 || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo ATi RS480 + SB450 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA - ATI RC410 Radeon Xpress 200M || <!--Audio-->ALC262 || <!--USB-->OCHI UHCI || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 or Atheros Ar5001 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->15v 5a proprietary charger needed |- | <!--Name-->Satelite A130 PSAD6U || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8101E || <!--Wireless-->Atheros or Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->ST1311 s1311 ST1312 S2276 S2386 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A135 S2686 (Compal LA 3391P) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8101E || <!--Wireless-->Atheros or Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->S2246 S2346 S2256 S4477 S4666 S4827 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A200 PSAE1E (Inventec MW10M) || <!--Chipset-->Pentium M with 945GM Express || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}}|| <!--SATA--> {{Maybe|SATA}}|| <!--Gfx--> {{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D and 3D)}}|| <!--Audio--> {{Yes|HD Audio ALC862}}|| <!--USB--> {{Yes| }}|| <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|RTL8101E}}|| <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros 5000 - FN,F5 or FN,F8 or switch}} || <!--Test Distro--> AspireOS 1.8 || <!--Comments-->2006 Excellent 32 bit support! - Celeron M 520 1.6Ghz or Pentium® Core Duo T2130 1.86 GHz - make sure that your WLAN card is enabled, do this using the hardware switch and FN+F8 key combination |- | <!--Name--> A210, Satellite A215 AMD (Inventec 10A) S5808 || <!--Chipset--> Ati with SB690 || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}}|| <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|SATA}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA HD2600 Mobility M76}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC268 || <!--USB--> {{Yes| }}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8101E}}|| <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros 5000}}|| <!--Test Distro--> AspireOS 1.8 || <!--Comments-->A215-S7422 A215-S7472 A215-S4697 (USA) - |- | <!--Name--> [http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=62036 A215 S4757] || <!--Chipset--> Ati X1200 with SB600 || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}}|| <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|SATA}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> {{Yes| }}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8101E}}|| <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros 5000}}|| <!--Test Distro--> AspireOS 1.8 || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Tecra A10 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{Maybe|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|Intel GMA 4500M (2D)}} || <!--Audio--> {{Yes|HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> {{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO 1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel WiFi Link 5100}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->64 bit possible |- | <!--Name-->L35 - L40 PSL48E - L45 S7423 || <!--Chipset-->GL960 with Intel Celeron || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|X3100 some 2D but software 3d tunnel 9 gearbox 4}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC660 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|REALTEK 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek 8187b replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->1,73Ghz M 520 or M 540 or Dual T2310 (1.46 GHz) T2330 (1.6 GHz) - 14H 14N 15B 17H 17K 17R 17S 18Z - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite a300 - inventec potomac 10s pt10s A300D 21H || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio - Realtek || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8102E || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5005 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->satellite L300D-224 PSLC8E PSLC9E, l305 (inventec ps10s) || <!--Chipset-->AMD M780 with Turion RM70 or QL-64 || <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} || <!--SATA--> {{yes|SATA}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|use VESA for Radeon 3100}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio with Realtek ALC268}} || <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet--> {{no|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros G XB63L or Intel or Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros Desktop Live 2.3 AROS One 2.3 || <!--Comments--> Wireless-handler crashing when using Atheros-Wireless-Card |- | <!--Name-->satellite l300-1bw PSLBDE-005005AR, L300-148 PSLB0E, l300-20D PSLB8E-06Q007EN, l300-294 L300-23L PSLB9E || <!--Chipset-->Intel GM45 + PGA478 socket Celeron 900, Pentium T1600, T2390, T3400 (Socket P) to Core2 Duo T6400 T6670 || <!--IDE--> {{unk|IDE}} || <!--SATA--> {{unk|SATA}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|use VESA for Intel gma 4500M}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio with Realtek ALC???}} || <!--USB--> {{unk|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet--> {{unk|rtl8169 Realtek 810xE}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64-bit - new unfamiliar Bios called insyde H20 - |- | <!--Name-->satellite l350d || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon (tm) X2 QL-60 + RS780M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 3100 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8187b || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L450 12 13 14 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Sempron, 2.1GHz with AMD RS780M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 3200 (based on HD 2400) || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8172 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->12X 13P 13X 14V PSLY6E00C006EN |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro L450 (Compal LA-5821P) 179 || <!--Chipset-->intel celeron 900 2.20 Ghz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->intel 4500m || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101 /2 /6E PCI Express Gigabit || <!--Wireless-->RTL8191 SEvB || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->39.6cm (15.6”) Toshiba TruBrite® HD TFT High Brightness display with 16:9 aspect ratio internal resolution 1366 x 768 |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->L755D (E-350) L750D (E-450) || <!--Chipset-->AMD || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 6310 6320 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio conexant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Realtek || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro SP C640 C660D-15X (PSC1YE) C670D- () || <!--Chipset-->AMD E350 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->6310G || <!--Audio-->HD Realtek ALC259 || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 zacate |- |<!--Name-->Toshiba Satellite C660D-19X || <!--Chipset-->AMD E-300 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATi || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->r8169 rtl8101e || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8188 8192ce rtl8192ce || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->C70D-A C75D-A || <!--Chipset-->E1-1200 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD HD8330 || <!--Audio-->HA Audio CX20751 11Z || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8162 alx}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek 8188e}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satelite Pro C40D-A C50D-A C55D-A || <!--Chipset-->Slow E1 2100 or faster A4 5000 kabini || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->8330 || <!--Audio-->HD Realtek ALC269Q || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|AR8162}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RTL8188EE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Satelite S50D || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-5745M (4c4t), A8-5545M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon 8550M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->REaltek GbE || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8188E || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 15.6in 2.38kg and 24mm - |- | <!--Name-->Satelite C50DT-B-107 PSCN6E M50DT-A-210 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A8-6410 A6-5200 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon R3 R5 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->REaltek GbE || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8188E || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 15.6 Inch Touchscreen 1366 x 768 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L50D-C-13G || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-8700P 6th Gen || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon R6 || <!--Audio-->HD || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->1GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Sharp formerly 80% Toshiba Computers || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->dynabook formerly 20% Toshiba PC, Satellite Pro C40D C50D || <!--Chipset-->intel i? or AMD Ryzen || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in and 15.6in - ddr4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Misc==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Time 500 Packard Bell EasyOne 1450 1550 || <!--Chipset-->K6-3 500Mhz + VIA MVP4 vt82c686a || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|Issues}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA || <!--Audio-->{{No|VIA AC97 3058 with wolfson codec WM9703 WM9704 WM9707 WM9708 or WM9717}} || <!--USB-->via 3038 2 ports USB 1.1 untested || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro-->NB May 2013 || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit grub runs but stalls around [PCI] Everything OK |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Sony Vaio PCG FX201/FX202 FX210/FX215 FX401/FX402 FX404/FX405 972M, FX501/FX502 FX504/FX505, FX601/FX602, FX604/FX605 FXA53(US), FX701/FX702, FX704/FX705, FX801/FX802 FX804/FX805 || <!--Chipset-->[http://gaugusch.at/vaio/ FX] [http://tech.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/FX210/ Sony Yahoo Group] VIA KT133A KM133 Duron 800Mhz Athlon 1.3Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{partial|boot issue with 2013 kernel VIA [rev 06]}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|ATI Rage Mobility Pro (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|VIA AC97 686b [rev 50] AD1881A Ear phone and Mic}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|UHCI [rev 1a]}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Comments-->Nightly 1st March 2013 || <!--Comments-->booting usb pendrive from Plop Boot Loader floppy (no bios USB boot). Can freeze coz hardware issue or a ram slot problem - no support for iLink firewire VT8363/8365 pci - vt82c686b |- | <!--Name-->Sony Vaio PCG FX100 R505LE || <!--Chipset-->Intel i815 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA Intel 82815 CGC || <!--Audio-->Intel ICH AC97 with ADI AD1881A codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel e100 || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->PCG-FX105 FX105K PCG-FX108 FX108K PCG-FX109 FX109K FX200 FX203/FX203K FX205 FX205K FX209 FX209K FX220 [http://juljas.net/linux/vaiofx240/ FX240] FX250 FX270 FX290 FX301 FX302 FX340 FX370 FX390 FX403 FX503 FX950 |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | Sony VAIO VGN X505VP || Pentium M ULV and Intel 855GM || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Intel 855 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VE}} || {{N/A}} || || 2004 32bit - 0.38 inches at its thinnest point - first laptop to feature a "chiclet" keyboard resemble Chiclets gum - |- | <!--Name-->Sony Z505LE Z505JE || <!--Chipset-->P3 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->n/a || <!--Gfx-->Rage Mobility M1 AGP mach64 || <!--Audio-->no Yamaha DS-XG PCI YMF744 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 8255x based PCI e100 || <!--Wireless-->n/a || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->Panasonic Toughbook CF-18 || <!--Chipset-->Core || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|gma for i915}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 SigmaTel}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|usb2 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL 8139C}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel swap for atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Deadwoods' D02 test || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Panasonic Toughbook CF-29 CF-30 || <!--Chipset-->Core || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA || <!--Audio-->AC97 SigmaTel || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139C || <!--Wireless-->Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->MSI Microstar PR210 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA ATi RS690M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio through speaker / head phones but not hdmi}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8111 8169}} || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR242x AR542x aw-ge780 mini pci-e || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - ENE PCI based SD card with no bios boot option |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Advent 7106 EAA-88 || <!--Chipset-->Pentium M 1.7GHz with 915GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D and 3D tunnel 187 gearbox 67}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 Intel ICH6 with Conexant Cx20468 31 codec playback head phones only}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200BG Fn/F2 replaced with atheros mini pci in small base panel - startup errors in wireless manager}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 14" cheap rubbish sadly - fan noise through audio channel - |- | <!--Name-->Motion Computing LE1600 PC Slate || <!--Chipset-->915 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->915 || <!--Audio-->Intel AC97 SigmaTel STAC9758 9759 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 serial Wacom digitiser not usb |- | <!--Name-->Panasonic Toughbook CF-51 CF-P1 CF-T5 CF-Y2 || <!--Chipset-->945GMS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom || <!--Wireless-->Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Sony Vaio VGN UX1XN UMPC || <!--Chipset-->Core Solo U1500 1.33GHz with 945GM chipset || <!--IDE-->1.8 inch ZIF || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945GMS || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Marvell Yukon 8036 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->32bit only - 4.5 inch screen ultra mobile PC |- | Sony Vaio VGN SR29VN || Intel ICH9 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE legacy}} || {{partial|ATI HD 3400 (VESA only)}} || {{partial|HD Audio (too quiet)}} || {{yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} || {{no|Marvell 8040}} || {{no|Intel 5100}} || Icaros 1.5 || 2007 32bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Wyse XM Class DELL WYSE Xn0m LAPTOP || <!--Chipset-->AMD T-G56N 1.6 1.65Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->decased 2.5in ssd || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d only AMD 6320}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|EHCI 2.0 with NEC uPD720200 USB 3.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek rtl8169 8111E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 93xx}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 1366 x 768 14" - 2 ddr3l slots max 16gb - 19v coax barrel plug psu - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Huawei Matebook D KPL-W00 Honor Magicbook 2018 || <!--Chipset-->2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|AMD Vega 8 use VESA}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{no|3.1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 14inch 1080p - internal battery - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Avita Pura 14 AVITA-PURAR3, AVITA-PURAR5 Hong Kong tech giant Nexstgo || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R3 3200U, R5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 || <!--Gfx-->Vega 3 (R3) 7 (R5) || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit 1,920 x 1,080 14in IPS but dim 194cd/m² and 59.4% of the sRGB colour gamut - 1 ddr4l sodimm slot - keyboard issues keyboard repair swap requires removal of all - components - flexible plastic build - 3 hr battery internal - |- | <!--Name-->Avita Liber V 3200U Ryzen 5 3500U, Avita Admiror 14 R7 3700U (UK only) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - better build but same 3 hr battery - 14" 1080p screen IPS 80% sRGB gamut - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Huawei Matebook D 15 14 AMD KPR-WX9 Honor Magicbook WAQ9AHNR, Huawei NBLK-WAX9X || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 3500U 4700U 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|AMD Vega 8 use VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{Unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3.1 gen 1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel or Realtek || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 2020 - internal 42W later 56W battery - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - f6.5 recessed webcam |- | <!--Name-->Xiaomi Redmibook 16 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 7 4700U with FCH 51 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->SSD 3 || <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon RX Vega 7 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{no|3.1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8821CE wifi || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit metal 16.1 IPS 99% srgb 240 nits - 46whr battery - no webcam - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Medion AG AKOYA® E14304 (MD63780), e14303 (MSN 30031052) (MD62110), Medion Akoya E15303 (lenovo bought 2011) || <!--Chipset-->4300u or Ryzen7 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->Vega 6 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bits 14" to 15"FHD 1080p - 8gb soldered - 19v 65W round port or usb-c charge psu - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Netbook=== [[#top|...to the top]] * One of the better options if re-partitioning of the hard disk is not suitable or wanted is to go with AROS hosted i.e. run a small linux distro and host AROS on top. AROS can exist on a Windows(TM) install as well. See here for more information [https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=779.0 Linux hosted] and [ Windows hosted] with downloads here [http://aros.sourceforge.net/download.php AROS download page] * installation needs an USB optical drive or an USB pen drive (see below) * PC with CD or DVD to install to a USB pendrive for boot purposes on a netbook * SD card sometimes can [ boot] like Dell 2100, EeePC 1001P, ASUS EeePC 900, acer aspire one d150, MSI Wind U100, [http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Audio-Codec-Comparison-Table/520 Audio Codecs] ====Acer Packard Bell Netbooks==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width=100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Aspire One AOA110 (A110) (ZG5) || Intel 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA (2D and 3D) tunnel 99 and gearbox 84 score}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC6628}} || {{Yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} || {{Yes|RTL8101E - rtl8169}} || {{Yes|AR5006}} atheros 5k || AspireOS 1.8 || 2007 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel A13-045N2A 19V2.37A 45W 5.5x1.7mm - |- | Aspire One AOA150 (A150) (ZG5) || Intel 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|ide mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 2D and accelerated 3D with tunnel 99 and gearbox 84.1 result}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC6628}} || {{Yes|uhci and ehci}} || {{Yes|RTL8101E - rtl8169}} || {{Yes|AR5006}} atheros 5k || AspireOS 1.8 || 2007 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel - |- | Aspire One AOD150 D150 (Compal LA-4781P), AOD110 D110 (ssd) || Intel 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|ide legacy}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{Yes|HDAudio with alc272}}] || {{Yes|USB}} || {{No|Atheros AR8121 AR8113 AR8114 l1e}} || {{Maybe|AR5007EG AR5BXB63 works but Broadcom BCM4312 has no support}} || Icaros Desktop 1.3 || 2008 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel - |- | Aspire One AOD250 D250 emachines em250 || 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|ide legacy}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{Yes|alc272 HD Audio}} || {{Yes}} || {{No|AR8132 (L1c)}} || {{No|BCM4312 or Atheros AR5B95}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2009 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire AO532H (Compal LA-5651p) 533H Pineview || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio playback}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|AR8132 (L1c)}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k}} || [http://www.amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=5968 Tested AspireOS June 2011] || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->emachines eM350 NAV51 || <!--Chipset--> with N450 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 3150 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2 || <!--Comments-->Single core 64bit - 160GB HDD 1GB RAM 10.1" LED backlit screen and Webcam - 3 cell li-ion battery for 3 hours usage - |- | <!--Name-->emachines eM355 || <!--Chipset--> with N455 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->64bit support possible - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One 533 || <!--Chipset-->N455 with NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D 0x8086 0xa011}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| ALC272 codec ich7}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8152 v1.1 1c}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4313}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 and AROS One 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - f2 setup - 10.1inch 1024 x 768 - |- | Aspire One AOD255 AOD255e AOD260 AOHAPPY (Compal LA-6221P) || N570 and Nm10 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|SATA}} || {{Maybe|Intel GMA 3150}} || Audio || USB || {{No|Atheros AR8152 V1.1 (1lc)}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313}} || || a little support |- | Aspire One 522 AO522 (Compal LA-7072p) || 1GHz dual C-50 C50 or C-60 C60 + Hudson M1 || {{N/A}} || SATA || AMD 6250 (ATI 9804) or 6290 || ATI SB CX20584 HD Audio || USB || Atheros 8152 v2.0 l1c || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313 or Atheros ath9k}} || || |- | <!--Name-->AAOD270 Aspire One D270 || <!--Chipset-->N2600 Cedarview || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D on Intel GMA 3650}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8169 RTL8101E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4313 but swap for Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit atom - ddr2 so-dimm 2gb max - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One AO532G (Compal LA-6091p) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One D257 (Quanta ZE6) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire One 722 AO722 P1VE6 || <!--Chipset-->AMD C-60 C60 with SB900 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe| use VESA Ati 6290}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec but no Wrestler HDMI output}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros AR8152 v2.0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9485}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One AO721 (Wistron SJV10-NL) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->AO751 AO751H (Quanta ZA3) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot .S || <!--Chipset-->N280 + || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|legacy}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA950 (2D)}}|| <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC272X || <!--USB--> USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Atheros l1e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros 9k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot .SE || <!--Chipset-->N450 + || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA950 (2D) || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC|| <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot .S2 NAV50 || <!--Chipset-->N455 NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel X3150 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC269 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Atheros || <!--Wireless-->Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot M/A || <!--Chipset-->1.2GHz Athlon L110 + RS690E || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy mode? || <!--Gfx-->AMD ATI Radeon Xpress X1270 (VESA only) || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ATI SBx00 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Asus Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Models eeePC] 700 701 2G 4G 8G Surf || Intel 910GML + ICH7 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 900 2D and 3D tunnel 68 gearbox 43 on 701 800x480}} || {{Yes|ALC662 HD Audio}} || {{Yes|UHCI and EHCI}} || {{No|Atheros L2}} || {{Yes| }} AR5007EG (AR2425) - [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=32391&forum=28&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#583583 works] || NB 2013 and 2.1.1 (best) and 2.1.2 || 2007 32bit - power supplies fail due to bad caps issue psu Power Charger 9.5V 2.5A 24W Charger 4.8*1.7MM - |- | [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Models eeePC] 701SD || Intel 910GML + ICH7 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Maybe|Intel GMA 900 (2D)}} || {{Yes|ALC662 HD Audio}} || {{Yes|UHCI and EHCI}} || {{No|Atheros L2}} || {{No|RTL8187SE swap with Atheros 5k}} || AspireOS 1.7 || 2007 32bit - boot issues but does boot with ATA=32bit,nopoll or ATA=nodma,nopoll |- | [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Models eeePC] 900 || Intel 910GML + ICH7 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Maybe|Intel GMA 900 (2D, 3D in some models)}} || {{Yes|ALC662 HD Audio]}} || {{Yes|UHCI and EHCI}} || {{No|Atheros L2}} || {{Maybe|depends on chipset}} AR5007EG (AR2425) - [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=32391&forum=28&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#583583 works] but not RaLink || AspireOS 1.7 || 2008 32bit - boot issues but does boot with ATA=32bit,nopoll or ATA=nodma,nopoll. 900's may need BIOS upgrade to boot usb optical drives. 3D available in some and not all model revisions - |- | eeePC 900A || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (3D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC269}} || {{Yes|USB2.0}} || {{No|Atheros L1e [1969 1026]}} || {{Yes|Atheros 5k AR242x}} || Nightly Build 2012 05-25 || 2009 32bit |- | eeePC 901 1000 || 945GM || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{Yes|ALC269 HD Audio}} || {{Yes|USB}} || {{No|Atheros L1E (AR8121 AR8113 AR8114)}} || {{No|RaLink Device 2860 swap with Atheros 5k}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2009 32bit |- | eeePC Seashell 1000HA 1000HE 1008 1005HA || N280 + Intel GMA950 || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{Yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC269}} || {{Yes|USB}} || {{Maybe|Realtek but not Atheros AR8132 (L1c)}} || {{No|Atheros AR9285 swap with Atheros 5k}} || Aspire OS 1.6 || 2010 32bit |- | <!--Name-->eeePC 1001ha || <!--Chipset-->GMA945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 950 (2D) || <!--Audio-->ALC269 HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Attansic Atheros AR8132 l1c}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RaLink RT3090 swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2010 32bit |- | eeePC 1001P T101MT 1005PX 1005PE 1015PE Pineview 1001PXD || NM10 and N450 N455 CPU || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio}} || {{Yes|USB 2.0}} || {{No|Atheros AR8132 (l1c)}} || {{No|Atheros AR928x 802.11n}} || Icaros 1.3.3 || 2011 64bit |- | EeePC 1015B 1215B || single C-30 C30 or dual C-50 C50 + Hudson M1 || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{partial|AMD 6250 (VESA only)}} || ATI SBx00 HD Audio || USB || {{No|AR8152 v2.0 atl1c}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313 [14e4 4727]}} || || 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Flare X101CH Cedarview || <!--Chipset-->N2600 + N10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 6300 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros l1c 2.0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Flare 1025CE 1225CE || <!--Chipset-->N2800 + N10 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{dunno|Intel GMA 3600}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros l1c 2.0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Dell Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Inspiron 910 Mini 9 PP39S Vostro A90 || GMA945 || {{Maybe|STEC 8G 16G 32G IDE PATA Parallel ATA miniPCIE SSD 50MM / 70MM very slow}} || {{N/A| }} || {{yes|Intel GMA 2D and 3D opengl1}} || {{yes|ALC268 HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB2 boots and works}} || {{yes|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8102E}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4310 and 4312 swap with atheros 5k bx32}} || ICAROS 1.3 but Icaros 2.3 (pci issues), AROS One 2.6 and Tiny AROS (digiclock startup) mouse cursor vanishes || 2009 32bit - 9inch 1024x600 screen - 1 ddr2 sodimm slot max 2gig - 19v 1.58a - 0 boot disk select - cr2032 battery under laptop base cover, while mem 2GB max under base flap - |- | <!--Name-->Mini 10 1010 PP19S || <!--Chipset-->Atom Z520 Z530 Intel US15W Poulsbo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel GMA 500 (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio ALC269 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 RTL8102E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or BCM4312}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - 10.10 inch 16:9, 1366 x 768 glossy - 28whr or 56wHr battery options - |- | [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Dell%20Mini%2010v%20(Inspiron%201011) Mini 10v 1011] [http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/InspironMini10v ] || Intel 950 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|ide legacy mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || HD Audio || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|RTL8102E 8103E}} || {{no|Dell 1397 Wireless}} || || |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron Mini 1018 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode }} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D, no VGA output)}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio head phones only - speaker and micro phone do not work}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|RTL8188CE or AR928X}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.5.1 || <!--Comments--> |- | Latitude 2100 || Intel Atom N270 N280 1.60Ghz GMA 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{Yes|set to IDE in bios as ahci not working || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D and 3D with tunnel 98 and gearbox 84)}} || {{yes|HD Audio with ALC272 codec}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM5764M}} || {{No|Intel 5100 or BCM4322 DW 1510 half height mini pcie use small Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->AspireOS 1.8, Icaros 2.1.1 and AROS One USB 2.4 || 2009 32bit ddr2 sodimm max 2G - [https://sites.google.com/site/arosaspireone/about-aspire-one Webcam and card reader not working] lcd cable over hinge an issue - f12 bios and boot - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude 2110 2120 || <!--Chipset-->N470 1.83Ghz, N455 1.6Ghz, N550 1.5Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|ATA mode in bios not ahci}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 3150 2D only}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with ALC269 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| swap for Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - ddr2 sodimm |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====HP Compaq Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | HP Mini 2133 || VIA C7-M P4M900 / 8237 VX700 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{maybe|VIA Chrome 9 HC (VESA only)}} || VT1708/A HD Audio || USB || {{no|Broadcom Corp NetXtreme BCM5788}} || {{no|Broadcom Corp BCM4312}} || || |- | HP mini 1000 Mi 2140 ks145ut || N270 + 945GM || {{N/A}} || SATA || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D and opengl1 3d)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio (playback tested)}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{no|Broadcom Corp BCM4312 hard blocked}} || || 2011 32Bit - unable to change wifi card |- | <!--Name-->HP Mini 700 702 || <!--Chipset-->N270 + 945GSE || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio IDT 92HD75B (111d:7608, only playback tested)}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom hard locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | Compaq HP Mini 110 110-3112sa || 945GM Express || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{yes|HD Audio IDT STAC 92xx}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{no|Atheros}} || {{no|Broadcom hard blocked Fn+F12}} || || 2011 32bit - unable to change wifi |- | HP Mini 200 210 || 945GM NM10 Express || {{N/A}} || SATA || Intel GMA 950 || HD Audio || USB || RTL8101E RTL8102E || {{no|Broadcom BCM4312 hard locked}} || || |- | HP Mini 311 DM1 (Quanta FP7) || N280 + ION LE || {{N/A}} || SATA || nVidia Geforce ION || HD Audio || USB || eth || {{No|hard locked}} || || 2009 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Wireless--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |} ====Lenovo Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | IdeaPad S9 S9e(3G) S10 S10e(3G) || 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{no|ALC269 or SigmaTel HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Broadcom NetLink BCM5906M}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4312 hard blocked}} || || little support |- | IdeaPad S12 || N270 + Nvidia ION LE MCP79 || {{N/A}} || SATA || nVidia C79 ION [Quadro FX 470M] || ALC269 HD Audio || USB || Broadcom || Intel hard blocked || || Does not boot - cause unknown |- | S10-2 || 945GME and N280 CPU || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{no|ALC269 HD Audio}} || {{yes}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4312 hard blocked}} || Icaros 1.3 || |- | S10-3 || NM410 and N450 CPU || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || {{no|HD Audio ALC269}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|Atheros 9285 or Broadcom BCM4312 hard blocked}} || Icaros 1.3 || |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad 100S || <!--Chipset-->Atom Z36xxx Z37xxx Series SoC || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel || <!--Audio-->Intel SST Audio Device (WDM) || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8723BS hard blocked || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Samsung Netbooks==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | [http://www.amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=616910&topic_id=33755&forum=28#616910 NC10] || 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{partial|SigmaTel HD Audio (playback only)}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{maybe|rtl8169 works but not Marvell 88E8040 sky2}} || {{yes|AR5007EG}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2009 32bit - Nano silver on keyboard and lcd ribbon cable over hinge issues |- | [http://www.sammywiki.com/wiki/Samsung_NC20 NC20] || VIA VX800 || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{maybe|VIA Chrome9 (VESA only)}} || ALC272 GR (VT1708A) HD Audio || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{yes|Atheros AR5001}} || || 2009 32bit - little support |- | N110 N120 || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{yes|ALC272 HD Audio or ALC6628}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{no|Realtek rtl8187}} || || 2009 32bit - some support - Namuga 1.3M Webcam none |- | N130 || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{yes|SATA in IDE mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 2D and opengl 1.x 99.5 tunnel 99 gearbox}} || {{yes|Intel HD with ALC272 ALC269 codec playback}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|RTL 8169.device - 8101e 8102e}} || {{no|rtl 8192se rtl8187 too small an area to swap for atheros 5k}} || || 2009 32bit - 10.x inch 1024 x 600 - Namuga 1.3M Webcam - front slide power on and f2 setup bios - keyboard 17.7mm Pitch is made with Silver Nano (Anti-Bacterial) tech - small touchpad - 1 ddr2 2rx16 sodimm slot 2G max - 44Wh |- | <!--Name-->Go NP-N310 || <!--Chipset-->N270 + 945GME || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio ALC6628}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|Atheros5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2010 32bit - N280 version changed specs |- | N510 || N270 euro N280 uk + ION MCP79 || {{N/A}} || SATA || nVidia C79 ION [Quadro FX 470M] || HD Audio || USB || Marvell 88E8040 || Realtek 8192E || || Does not boot - cause unknown |- | <!--Name-->NC110 Axx || <!--Chipset-->NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Sata || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC269 codec A9M22Q2 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4313 or Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - |- | NF210 Pineview || n455 or n550 + N10 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{maybe|Intel GMA 3150 (needs retesting, VESA works)}} || {{yes|HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || Wireless || || 2011 64bit - some support |- | NP N145 Plus || n450 + NM10 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D, no VGA output)}} || {{yes|Realtek HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{no|Atheros AR9285}} || || 2010 some support but often the trackpad does not work |- | <!--Name-->NS310 NP-NS310-A03UK || <!--Chipset-->N570 with NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use Vesa 2d }} || <!--Audio-->{{yes| ich7}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 realtek 810xe }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|bcm4313 }} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit Atom N570 or 1.5 GHz Intel Atom N550 dual core processor, 1 DDR3 sodimm slot memory, a 250GB hard drive, and a 10.1 inch, 1024 x 600 pixel 10.1" W7St - 2300mAh short life - |- | <!--Name-->[https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Samsung_N150 N150] NB30 || <!--Chipset-->MN10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8040}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285 or Realtek 8192E}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->a little support |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.kruedewagen.de/wiki/index.php/Samsung_N220 N210 N220] N230 || <!--Chipset-->N450 + NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC269 || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->a little |- | <!--Name-->NC110 Pxx Cedarview || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{dunno|Intel GMA 3600}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6000g}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Toshiba Netbooks==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->NB100 || <!--Chipset-->945GM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|legacy}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC262 HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|AR5001}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 32bit - some support |- | <!--Name-->Mini NB200 series NB205 || <!--Chipset-->N280 + GSE945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|IDE legacy mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->ALC272 HD Audio || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2009 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->Mini 300 series NB305 || <!--Chipset-->N455 with NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 3150 (2D) || <!--Audio-->ALC272 HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->{{no|AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Mini 500 series NB505 NB520 NB550-10v || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 3150 (2D) || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8176 RTL 8188CE || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit - |- | [http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Toshiba-NB550D-AMD-Fusion-Netbook.46551.0.html Mini NB550D 10G] 108 (c30) 109 (c50) || C-50 + M1 || {{N/A}} || SATA || AMD 6250 (VESA only) || HD Audio || USB || Realtek 8111e rtl8169 || Atheros 9k || || 2011 64bit Realtek SD card reader |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Misc Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="30%" |Comments |- | Cammy's A1600 || GME945 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{yes|Intel GMA950 (2D)}} || {{yes|HD Audio playback}} || {{yes}} || {{no|JMC 250/260}} || Wireless || Icaros 1.2.4 || |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Mini Ui 3520 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 945 || <!--ACPI--> || <!--SATA-->{{yes}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->ALC269 HD Audio || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|AR5001}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->good |- | Guillemot Hercules eCafe EC-900 H60G-IA], Mitac MiStation and Pioneer Computers Dreambook Light U11 IL1 || Intel 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{yes|Intel GMA950 (2D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio (playback only)}} || {{yes|uhci and ehci}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|RAlink RT2860}} || || Slowly gaining support |- | <!--Name-->Hannspree Hannsnote SN10E2 24 48 || <!--Chipset-->N450 + NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->IDE legacy mode || <!--Gfx-->Pineview Intel (2D) || <!--Audio-->ALC HD Audio || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Atheros l1c || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9285 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion--> |- | MSI Wind U90/U100 || GME945 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{partial|HD Audio ALC888s (playback only?)}} || {{yes|uhci 1.1 and ehci 2.0}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|RaLink RT2860 RT2700E or rtl8187se (u100x)}} || Icaros 1.3 || |- | Advent 4211 || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || Intel GMA950 (2D) || ALC HD Audio || USB || rtl8169 || {{no|Intel 3945 ABG}} || || MSI U100 clone |- | <!--Name-->Hannspree Hannsnote SN10E1 || <!--Chipset-->N270 + GMA945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->ALC HD Audio || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E RTL8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|RaLink RT2860}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->MSI U100 clone |- | <!--Name--> Vaio VGN-P11Z | <!--Chipset--> | <!--IDE--> {{dunno}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{Partial|Intel (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Marvell}} | <!--Wireless--> {{no|Atheros AR928X}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 2.0.3 | <!--Comments--> Rarely boots! |- | <!--Name-->Sony VPC-W11S1E | <!--Chipset-->N280 with 945GSE | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA950 - hdmi}} | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with realtek codec | <!--USB-->3 USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8132}} | <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285 swap with 5k}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit - 10.1" 1366 x 768 glossy - 3hr battery life - |- | <!--Name-->Archos 10 Netbook || <!--Chipset-->Atom with ICH7 NM10 945GSE || <!--IDE-->{{No }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC662 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI Wind U135 DX MS-N014 || <!--Chipset-->Intel N455 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D only accelerated}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ALC662 rev 1}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|RTL}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR 9K}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->needs noacpi notls added to grub boot line to start up |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Desktop Systems=== [[#top|...to the top]] Most Intel Atom and equivalent AMD Fusion CPUs / APUs are faster than Intel P3s but still some way short of P4 or Dual Core performance. {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" | <!--OK-->{{Yes|'''Works well'''}} || <!--May work-->{{Maybe|'''Works a little'''}} || <!--Not working-->{{No|'''Does not work'''}} || <!--Not applicable-->{{N/A|'''N/A not applicable'''}} |- |} ====Acer==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.acer.com/ac/en/ID/content/support-product/486;-; Veriton X270 VTX270] Intel Core 2 Duo ED7400C or Pentium dual-core UD7600C with 630i | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d Nvidia 7100 VGA and HDMI connections}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe| with realtek codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|4 rear and 5 front}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe| nForce}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 dvd | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit capable but would not fully boot, DHCP address timeout too short and failed often. Put in a third party NIC, worked - 1 PCI Express x16 slot and a free PCI x1 slot - internal thin long psu with 12pin - |- | <!--Name--> Imedia S1710 with Intel Dual Core E5200 | <!--IDE--> {{Yes|SATA/AHCI}} | <!--SATA--> {{Maybe|Native IDE}} | <!--Gfx--> {{Yes|Nvidia nForce 7100}} | <!--Audio--> {{Yes|Nvidia MCP73}} | <!--USB--> {{Yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{No|NVIDIA MCP73 Ethernet}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 14-09-2023, AROS One 2.3 | <!--Comments--> 2009 64-bit - Boot over USB not working on front - 2 DDR2 dual channel max 8GB - DEL for entering Bios - F12 for boot menu - Bus weird, could be reason for Ethernet issue |- | <!--Name-->Acer Revo AR1600, R1600 AR3600, R3600 Packard Bell iMax Mini, ACER Veriton N260G N270G slim nettop subcompact | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Native IDE mode, '''when it works''' boots}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Nvidia ION GeForce 9300M - nouveau 3d - '''when it boots''' 400 fps in shell'ed gearbox, 278 in tunnel, 42 in teapot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with alc662 codec but nothing from HDMI audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Nvidia USB boot usb2 stick issues and slower with usb3 drives}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|MCP79 nForce}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 Intel Atom 230 N280 - 20cm/8" high 1 ltr noisy fan - very often boot stuck around ehciInit - DEL setup F12 boot options - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4GB - 19v special barrel size 5.5mm/1.7mm psu - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4GB - atheros 5k AR5BXB63 wifi - |- | <!--Name-->Revo AR3610 R3610 3610 Atom 330 nettop subcompact dual core | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Native IDE mode, '''when it works''' boots}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Nvidia ION GeForce 9400M LE MCP79MX - nouveau 3d - '''when it boots''' 400 fps in shell'ed gearbox, 278 in tunnel, 42 in teapot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with Realtek alc662 rev1 alc662-hd later ALC885 codec but nothing from HDMI audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Nvidia USB with 1% chance boot with usb2 sticks, more issues with usb3 drives}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|RTL 8211CL MCP79 nForce}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 1.5, 1.6 and 2.4 usb | <!--Comments-->2010 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 20cm/8" high 1 ltr noisy fan - boot often stuck around ehciInit, SATA, etc try ATA=off, non usb hub keyboard, - DEL bios setup, F12 BBS POPUP/drive boot - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4GB - 19v barrel psu with smaller inner pin size 5.5mm/1.7mm - replace wifi RT3090 ver c (linux) with atheros 5k - |- | <!--Name-->REVO AR3700 R3700 3700 Atom D525 dual core - ACER Veriton N282G *one long beep followed by two short, bios damaged *looping one long two short, a video card fault *two short beeps... CMOS damaged *got one long and one short beep... board error? | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE ready in Bios}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia ION2 GT218 ION vga fine '''but''' hdmi fussy over display used - nouveau 2d & 3d gearbox 404 tunnel 292 teapot 48}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDA Intel with Realtek ALC662 rev1 codec, head phones only but nothing from NVidia HDMI}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|Intel® NM10 Express (NM10 is basically an ICH7 with a die shrink and IDE removed) USB boots usb, installs usb, accesses ok}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169 8111g}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS one USB 1.5 and 1.6 | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 20cm/8" high 1 ltr noisy fan - early 2 ddr2 sodimm slots but later 2 ddr3 sodimm slots 1Rx8 max 4GB - 19v barrel psu thinner pin - replace wifi RT3090 ver d with atheros 5k mini pci-e - ACPI Suspend Mode = S1, S3 (STR), S4 - Power on PCIe * Known Acer issue, Boot into bios, set bios to UEFI and reboot, set bios back to defaults and reboot, blank display, repair with reflash of 8 pin Winbond W25Q socketed bios chip with ch341a using 2011/09/19 P01.B0L, 2011/05/09 P01.A4, 2011/05/03 P01.A3L, 2010/12/27 P01.A2L, 2010/12/27 P01.A2 amiboot.rom - |- | <!--Name-->Revo 70 (RL70) with or without dvdrw | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->6320 or 6310 | <!--Audio-->HD audio ALC662-VCO-GR codec | <!--USB-->USB2, 1.1 Hudson D1 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD E450 1.65GHz - 19v 65w barrel psu thinner inner pin - 2 DDR3L single channel max 4GB - replace wifi RT3090 ver d with atheros 5k mini pci-e - 1lr or 1.5 ltr dvdrw case 209.89 mm, (D) 209.89 mm, (H) 35.35 mm - del enter bios - |- |} ====Asus==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->EEEbox B202 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA950 | <!--Audio-->Intel Azalia HDaudio with Realtek ALC662 or ALC888-GR CODEC | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 or JM250 | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros | <!--Comments-->internal 3 types of wifi chipset not supported |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Dell==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name--> Precision 340 | <!--IDE--> {{yes}} | <!--SATA--> {{n/a}} | <!--Gfx--> {{n/a}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|Intel AC97}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 1.1 (UHCI)}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|3Com}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Dimension 2400 | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 82845GL Brookdale G/GE (VESA 640x480 by 16)}} | <!--Audio-->{{Unk|AC97 with ADI codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|UHCI EHCI}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom 440x 4401}} | <!--Test Distro-->[http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=832495 Icaros 1.4] | <!--Comments-->Graphics chipset is capable of higher resolution. |- | <!--Name-->Dimension 4600 | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{dunno}} | <!--Gfx-->{{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 (use rear black port)}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|UHCI/EHCI}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Intel PRO/100}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5.2 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 170L | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|Intel AC97}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|Intel PRO/100}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex GX260 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|Intel AC97}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Intel PRO/1000}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | Optiplex GX270 | {{yes|Working}} | {{partial|IDE mode}} | {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | {{yes|Intel AC97}} | {{yes|USB 2.0}} | {{no|Intel PRO/1000}} | Icaros 1.5.2 | <!--Comments--> |- | Optiplex GX280 | {{yes|Working}} | {{partial|IDE mode}} | {{maybe|Intel GMA (only VESA tested)}} | {{yes|Intel AC97}} | {{yes|USB 2.0}} | {{no|Broadcom}} | Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex GX520 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{yes|Intel GMA}} | <!--Audio--> {{partial|Intel AC97 (no line-out)}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 745 | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel GMA (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{partial|HD Audio (no volume control)}} | <!--USB--> {{partial|Only keyboard mouse (legacy mode)}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 755 | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel GMA (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Intel Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.5.1 | <!--Comments--> Around 25 second delay in booting from USB |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 990 | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|non-RAID mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel HD (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Intel Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 360 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|ordinary boot gives VGA mode only - VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|HD Audio (Analog Devices ID 194a)}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->Aspire Xenon | <!--Comments-->poor support |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse Vx0 (V90 V30), Vx0L (V10L V90L), Vx0LE (V30LE V90LE) from VIA C7 800GHz to Eden 1.2GHz | <!--IDE-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d for S3 UniChrome Pro}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 VIA VT8233A with ?? codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 back and 1 front USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|early models work but later VT6102-3 do not}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.2 | <!--Comments-->2006 to 2009 32bit - 12V 4A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm - 1 sodimm DDR 333MHz SO-DIMM later DDR2 - early V90s do seem to have a reliability problem - |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.poppedinmyhead.com/2021/01/wyse-cx0-thin-client-notes-experiences.html Dell Wyse Cx0] C00LE, C10LE, C30LE, C50LE, C90LE, C90LE7, C90LEW VIA C7 Eden 1GHz | <!--IDE-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d VX855 VX875 Chrome 9}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|some VIA VT8237A VT8251 HDA with ?? codec work}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 outside 2 inside USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|VT6120 VT6121 VT6122 Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2010 to 2013 32bit - [https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=815.0 boots and works] - 12V 2.5A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm - 1 sodimm ddr2 - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Dell RxxL Rx0L thin client *R00L Cloud PC of Wyse WSM *R10L Wyse Thin OS *R50L Suse Linux Enterprise *R90L Win XP Embedded *R90LW Win Embedded Standard 2009 *R90L7 Win Embedded Standard 7 | <!--IDE-->128Mb IDE or 1GB | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|SATA Hyperdisk}} | <!--Gfx-->AMD 690E RS690M Radeon Xpress 1200 1250 1270 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 usb2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit AMD Sempron™ 210U SMG210UOAX3DVE 1.5GHz SB600, up to 4GB single slot 240-pin DDR2 DIMM, 19v barrel psu, DEL key bios - Late 2012 2 data sockets added but only CN18 be used with two white sockets (CN13 & CN15) can used to power the SATA device "4-pin Micro JST 1.25mm |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 390 sff small form factor - mt mini tower desktop - dt full desktop | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|1 pci-e}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|realtek}} | <!--Test Distro-->aros one 1.6 usb | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit dual i3 2xxx - kettle iec plug psu cable - add nvidia gf218 gfx - error code 3 mobo or cpu - |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 3010 sff small form factor | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|1 pci-e}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom 57XX}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit dual i3 3xxx - kettle iec plug psu cable - |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 7010 sff small form factor | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|1 pci-e}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom or Intel 825xx}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit dual i3 3xxx Q77 - kettle iec plug psu cable - add pci-e ethernet and nvidia gf218 gfx - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 5010 thin client ThinOS D class (D10D D00D D00DX, Dx0D), PCoIP (D10DP) or D90D7, 5040 *username: Administrator, admin, [blank] *password: Fireport, DellCCCvdi, rappot, Wyse#123, Administrator, administrator, r@p8p0r+ | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE mode may need 30cm ext cable as small area for half-slim sata ssd - decased new ssd??}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d 1400x1050 HD6250E IGP by using DVI to hdmi cable and 1 display port, no hdmi port}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD 6.34 audio chipset detected but codec alc269 working from one case speaker - none if v6.29 used}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|most 5010 have 4 USB 2.0 but D90Q7 has 2 USB3 instead}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8168 8169 - rev 1.?? 8111? - rev 1.91 8111E}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit slow AMD G-T44R 1.2Ghz later G-T48E 1.4Ghz Dual Bobcat Brazos BGA413 - Del for BIOS - p key to select boot with noacpi - single DDR3 sodimm slot max 4Gb, (8Gb hynix 2rx8 ddr3l)? (remove small board to upgrade) - passive no fan - 15cm/6" small 1ltr case and lack of expansion options - PA16 19v barrel psu Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 7010 DTS thin client (Z class Zx0D) *2011 Zx0 Z90D7 2GF/2GR *2013 Z10D *2014 Z50D 2GF/2GR *2012 Cisco VXC 6000 CVXC-6215-K9 white | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|Bios set Sata mode to IDE mode and grub boot add 'noacpi' for half slim sata2 ssd or/with 50cm sata ext cable}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d HD6310 6320 Terascale 2 through DVI and DP 1.1a - no 3d support r600 and no hdmi port}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio 6.34 detected but ALC269VB codec works on the one case speaker only}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|2.0 works but NEC 720200 3.0 not detected but sometimes works like 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111e 8111F}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 and Aros One 1.5, 1.9 and 2.3 usb | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 slow cores AMD G-t52R 1.5GHz later G-T56N 1.65 GHz Dual with A50M FCH - 20cm/8" high 1.5ltr larger fanless black plastic case with metal ventilated box inside - 2 desktop DIMM slots max 16GB - miniPCIe CN14 no msata ssd support in bios - PA-16 19v external psu Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm - 2 40cm SMA female WiFi Antenna to IPEX IPX u.fl Ufl Cable pigtail needed - does not like uefi boot devices - |- | <!--Name-->Wyse 7020 Thin Client * 2013 Quad-core AMD GX-420CA 2.0 GHz (25W) - * 2018 Zx0Q Quad-core AMD GX-415GA 1.5 GHz (15W) with Quad display 3dp and 1dvi | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 sata port | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d only for AMD Radeon HD8400E radeonsi (dual display) or AMD Radeon HD 8330E IGP with AMD Radeon E6240 Seymour E6460 (quad display), no hdmi ports}} | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 x USB2.0 works but 2 USB3 issues | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 quad eKabini Jaguar cores - two SODIMM sockets layered in centre of mobo DDR3L RAM - Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm ac psu 9mm plug is too short but 14mm length is fine - 15cm/6" high smaller 1ltr case and lack of expansion options - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse Dx0Q (5020) D90Q8 NJXG4 AMD G-Series | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 sata port | <!--Gfx-->HD 8330E | <!--Audio--> with Realtek codec | <!--USB-->4 x USB2.0 works but 2 USB3 issues | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 Quad-core AMD GX-415GA 1.5 GHz - 2 layered near edge of mobo 204-pin DDR3L SODIMM (bottom one tricky to insert) - 19v Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm - passive no fan - 15cm/6" high smaller 1ltr case and lack of expansion options |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 5060 N07D thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE bios mode for sata2 port}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Vesa 2d - AMD R5E GCN2 IGP Sea Islands thru dp1 with an hdmi adapter no output thru dp2 - no hdmi dvi ports}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio with Realtek ALC231 codec head phones only}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|4 x USB2.0 works but 2 USB3 issues}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 realtek 8169 8111h}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 1.6 usb | <!--Comments-->2017 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 quad GX-424CC 19.5v external psu - CN-0Y62H1 mobo with 2 layered ddr3l 16Gb max sodimm slots at edge of mobo, bottom 0 one blocking - passive no fan so quiet - 15cm/6" high smaller 1ltr case and lack of expansion options - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Wyse 3040 (N10D) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Intel | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 4c4t Intel Cherry Trail x5 Z-8350 (1.44 GHz Quad) - two versions, one is 5V-3A, the other is 12V-2A - 2 GB DDR3L 1600 MHz, 8 GB or 16 GB eMMC flash chip, all soldered down - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Fujitsu Siemens==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="15%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Scenic [http://uk.ts.fujitsu.com/rl/servicesupport/techsupport/ProfessionalPC/Scenic/ScenicE/ScenicE.htm E600] (compact desktop) | | | {{partial|VESA only}} | {{yes|AC97}} | | {{no|Intel PRO/1000}} | {{dunno}} | Nice small, silent PC with good AROS support. |- | Scenic T i845 | {{dunno}} | {{n/a}} | {{n/a}} | {{dunno|Intel AC97}} | {{dunno|UHCI}} | {{dunno|Intel PRO/100}} | Icaros 1.5.2 | AROS does not boot |- | <!--Name-->Futro S200 S210 S220 and later S300 | <!--IDE-->{{yes| compactflash CF card max ??}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 315PRO PCI/AGP }} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 via }} | <!--USB-->{{unk|via uhci and ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|via VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74) }} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - TR5670 Rev 1.4 mother with Transmeta TM5800 cpu - pci socket - single SODIMM socket for DDR memory PC2700S max 512MB - |- | <!--Name-->Futro S400 | <!--IDE-->{{yes| but swap with compactflash CF card already with AROS installed}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS741CX }} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 SiS7018}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|sis uhci and ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|rtl8169 }} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - AMD Geode NX1500 1GHz gets hot - SiS 963L / SiS 741CX chipset - 12V 4.2A 4-pin (DP-003-R) psu - single SODIMM socket for DDR PC2700S max 1G - large case 246 x 48 x 177cms torx screws - pci socket - |- | <!--Name-->FUJITSU Futro S700 and S900 Thin Client (based on mini-ITX motherboard D3003-A12, D3003-C1 lesser variant of [https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/Futro/s900/TechNotes_V3.1_Mini-ITX_D3003-S.pdf D3003-S]) *G-T56N 1.65GHz *G-T40N 1.00GHz *G-T44R 1.20GHz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 sata data socket but mSata | <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 6320, HD 6250, HD 6290 dvi or displayport (DP runs higher) | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->{{yes|two USB2 front sockets and four on the rear}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit AMD slow atom-like and fanless - 20V 2A psu 5.5mm/2.1mm coax (S900) - mSATA 1GB-16GB - 2 DDR3L SODIMM sockets max 8GB tricky to run 1333 MHz on the Futro S900 - proprietary X2 PCI-e - 1 PCI socket but need a right-angle adaptor - |- | <!--Name-->esprimo p420 e85 desktop case | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->Intel 4600 or old Geforce in pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio realtek alc671 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - 16 pin special psu - |- | <!--Name-->esprimo E420 e85+ SFF case | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->Intel 4600 or low profile pci-e card | <!--Audio-->HDAudio realtek alc671 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - 16ish pin special psu - hd under front metal bracket, take front cover off first with 3 tabs - 3 slim pci-e slots - |- | <!--Name-->Futro S520 AMD dual 1.0Ghz codenamed "Steppe Eagle" * GX-210HA @ 1.0GHz * GX-212ZC @ 1.2GHz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->no sata - 4Gb or 16Gb flash memory soldered to the board | <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon HD 8210E (GX210HA) or AMD Radeon R1E (GX212ZC) | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111e | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - smaller than ITX 160mm x 160mm Fujitsu D3314-A11 - 19V 3.4A PSU standard 5.5mm/2.1mm coax plug - 1 ddr3 sodimm slot - |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu Futro S720 ThinClient D3313-B13 D3313-F *2014 64bit AMD GX-217GA 1.65GHz VFY:S0720P8009FR VFY:S0720P8008DE VFY:S0720P4009GB *2015 64bit AMD GX-222GC 2.20GHz VFY:S0720P702BDE VFY:S0720P702BFR all begin VFY:S0720P and end two digit country code | <!--IDE--> {{N/A|}} | <!--SATA--> {{Yes|up to 2 Sata-cable-connector with space in casing so normal SSD/HDD over Sata was running very well on AHCI and IDE-Mode and 2242 mSata}} | <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|use VESA 2D for AMD Radeon HD 8280E IGP ( islands) or later R5E IGP ( islands)}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|HDAudio ALC671 codec partially working, external audio speaker}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|4 rear USB 2.0 but not front 2 USB 3.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8169}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB 2.0 | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit supports AVX and SSE 4.1 - 1 ddr3 Sodimm slot max 8Gb - 19V-20V 2A 5.5mm/2.5mm coax - D3313-B13 stripped down Mini-ITX mobo D3313-S1/-S2/-S3 (eKabini) D3313-S4/-S5/-S6 - SATA data socket can be located under the fins of the cpu heatsink is fanless - mPCIe socket for wireless card - |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu FUTRO S920 D3313-E D3313-G *2016 AMD GX-222GC SOC 2.20GHz Dual *2017 AMD G-Series GX-415GA (1.50 GHz, Quad Core, 2 MB, AMD Radeon™ HD 8330E) *2017 AMD G-Series GX-424CC 2.40 GHz Quad | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{yes|2242 mSata and 1 Sata-cable-connector with space in casing so normal SSD/HDD over Sata possible}} | <!--Gfx--> {{yes|use VESA 2D for Radeon R5E GCN2/3 IGP}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|HDAudio ALC671 codec partially working}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|4 rear USB 2.0, front 2 USB 3.1 downgradable to 2.0 in BIOS setting}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8169}} | <!--Test Distro--> AROS One USB 2.4 | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 so dimm slot with max of 8 GB - 19v barrel psu 5.5mm 2.5mm - SATA data socket can be located under the fins of the heatsink - mPCIe a e keyed socket for wireless card - propetary X2 connector with official raizer to X1 connector - almost silent background noise, not affecting sound quality in any way |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu Thin Client Futro S5011 S7011 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->{{No|Vesa 2D for AMD Vega 3 on 2 dp 1.4}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ALC623 codec}} | <!--USB-->USB3 USB 3.2 Gen 2 front and 3 usb2 rear | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - AMD Ryzen Dual Core R1305G or R1505G 1ltr case - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - TPM 2.0 - 19v 3.42amp round coax or usb-c 20c 3.25a external psu - |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu FUTRO S9011 Thin Client VFY:S9011THU1EIN || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{No|Vesa 2D for AMD Vega 3 on 2 dp 1.4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ALC623 codec}} || <!--USB-->USB3 USB 3.2 Gen 2 front and 3 usb2 rear || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit Ryzen Embedded R1606G - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - TPM 2.0 - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ====HP Compaq==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Compaq presario 7360 | <!--IDE-->{{yes|Working}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|AC97 via}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|issues}} | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Compaq EP Series 6400/10 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{N/A}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|ISA}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 1.1}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{N/A}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Evo D510 | {{yes|Working}} | {{N/A}} | {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | {{yes|AC97}} | {{yes|Working}} | {{yes|Intel PRO/100}} | Icaros 1.5 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Compaq DX2000 MT | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel Extreme 2 (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|detects AC97 but no support for ADI AD1888 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|OHCI/EHCI }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82526EZ e1000}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.51 | <!--Comments-->boots ok but no audio |- | <!--Name-->Compaq DX 2200 | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200] (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{dunno|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|OHCI/EHCI issues }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments-->issues |- | <!--Name--> d230 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|UDMA}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{partial|Intel AC97 (speaker and headphones only, no line-out)}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.4.5 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->HP Pavilion a220n || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|VESA 1024x768 on nVidia GF4 MX with 64MB shared video ram}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ALC650 AC'97 comp.}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8201BL 10/100 LAN}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.5|| <!--Comments-->2004 32bit athlon xp 2600+ Socket 462 / Socket A - 2 dimm ddr pc2700 - |- | <!--Name-->t500 | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|FX5200 (2D; 3D with older driver)}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 ICH4 ALC658D}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|UHCI/EHCI}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8101L 8139}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2012-09-22 | <!--Comments-->2004 |- | <!--Name-->DC7700 | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 2D}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes| ICH8}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|82566DM e1000e}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2013-??-?? | <!--Comments-->2006 Some support at low cost |- | <!--Name-->HP dc 7600 CMT | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ACL 260}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO/1000 GT}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP t5000 thin client series t5500 t5510 t5515 PC538A or PC542A t5700 t5710 Transmeta Crusoe Code Morphing TM 5400 5600 800Mhz | <!--IDE-->128mb to 512MB | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->Ati Radeon 7000M | <!--Audio-->VIA with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|Issues}} | <!--Ethernet-->VIA Rhine 2 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2006 32bit - ddr max 1GB - F10 setup - all t51xx and some t55xx units will not include a SODIMM slot - |- | <!--Name-->HP t5000 thin client series CN700 *HSTNC-002L-TC t5135, t5530 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d 128Mb Via S3 1600 x 1200 32-bit colour | <!--Audio-->AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102 VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit t5135 appears identical to the t5530 except the CPU VIA Esther 400 MHz - RAM 64Mb (? max) - 8 x USB2.0 - 12V 3.33A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm |- | <!--Name-->HP t5720, t5725 HSTNC-001L-TC | <!--IDE-->{{unk| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d SiS741GX 2048 x 1536 32-bit colour | <!--Audio-->AC97 SiS SiS7012 AC'97 | <!--USB-->6 x USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102 VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 8d) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit AMD Geode NX1500 1GHz socketed - RAM 512MB or 1GB, 256MB, 512MB or 1GB - 12V psu - sis DDMA support - custom 1.13 BIOS - pci low profile - |- | <!--Name-->t5000 series VX800 HSTNC-004-TC t5145, t5540, t5545, t5630 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d VIA Chrome9 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio VIA | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|VT6120 VT6121 VT6122 Gigabit (rev 82)}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit - RAM 64Mb (? max) - 8 x USB2.0 - 12V 4.16A Coax: 5.5mm/2.1mm - |- | <!--Name-->t5730w HSTNC-003-TC t5730 | <!--IDE-->{{n/a|ATA 44pin DOM Flash}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d ATI Radeon X1250 2048 x 1536 no 3D | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{Yes|6 x USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 5707M tg3 10/100/1000}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 64bit AMD Sempron 2100+ 1GHz - 1 slot of ddr2 sodimm (Max 2GB) - 12V 4.16A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm - F10 enter bios F12 boot devices - |- | <!--Name-->HSTNC-005-TC gt7720, gt7725 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d AMD RS780G HD 3200 - 2560 x 1600 DVI-D & DVI-H | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->8 x USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5787M}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit AMD Turion Dual Core CPU 2.3GHz - 1 DDR2 200-pin SODIMM - 19V 4.16A Coax 7.4mm/5.0mm (gt7725) - |- | <!--Name-->HP t5740 Thin Client HSTNC-006-TC t5740, t5745, st5742 | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->1 port | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Intel CL40 VGA and DisplayPort connectors}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with IDT codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM57780 Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly build and Icaros | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit Atom N280 - F10 on power up to get into the BIOS screens. F12 brings up the boot options - hp 19V one with a coax connector, outer diameter 4.8mm with inner to be 1.7mm to 1.4mm - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots max 3gb due to 32bit - 1 pci-e slot completely non standard - |- | <!--Name-->t5000 series HSTNC-012-TC VIA Nano u3500 VX900 *t5550 512MB/1GB Windows CE6 R3 *t5565 1GB/1GB HP ThinPro *t5570 2GB/1GB WES 2009 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d VIA ChromotionHD 2.0 GPU Chrome9 | <!--Audio-->VIA 9170 VT1708S codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM57780 Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->32bit - 1 sodimm - 19V 3.42A supply connector standard yellow-tip coax plug 4.8mm/1.8mm "Standard HP Compaq DC Power Plug 4.8mm x 1.5mm / 1.7mm Yellow Tip Connector - |- | <!--Name-->HP t510 Via Eden X2 U4200 HSTNC-012-TC shares features with t5570e, t5565z | <!--IDE-->2G ATA Flash DOM | <!--SATA-->one | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d for Chrome9 VIA ChromotionHD 2.0 gfx}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|VIA VT8237A VT8251 HDA with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|6 USB2 }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit - one slot ddr3 sodimm max 4GB - 19V 3.42A Coax 4.8mm/1.8mm - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP T610 Thin Client and thicker PLUS version AMD G-T56N A55E | <!--IDE-->{{Maybe|}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 6320 1 dp port 1 dvi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->two USB2 on the front, two USB2 and two USB 3 ports on the rear | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM57780}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 204-pin DDR3 1600MHz SODIMMs PC3-12800 under motherboard via removable panel - 19.5V 3A Coax male 7.4mm/5.0mm + centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP T420 Thin Client *AMD Embedded G-Series GX-209JA SOC (1 GHz, 2 cores) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 8180 dvi vga | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->2 front 2 rear USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2015 64bit supports AVX or SSE 4.1 - soldered in place 2GB DDR3 - smaller than usual 19.5V 2.31A Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - usb stick internal for storage - E15 BBR - |- | <!--Name-->HP t520 TPC-W016 *AMD GX-212JC 1.2Ghz (2 core) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 m.2 mounting holes for 2242 and 2260 SSDs SATA (not NVME) | <!--Gfx-->Radeon R2E GCN2 IGP Sea Islands | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->2 USB3 front, 4 USB2 back | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 2017 64 bit supports AVX or SSE 4.1 - 1 204-pin DDR3 SODIMM - 19.5V 3.33A 7.4mm Coax with central pin |- | <!--Name-->HP t620 TPC-I004-TC and t620 PLUS (PRO wider version) TPC-I020-TC *AMD G-Series GX-217GA 2 core APU 1.65GHz *AMD GX-415GA | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->single M.2 2280 socket sata3, mSATA socket removed end of 2014, | <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 8280E graphics 8330E Islands GCN2 IGP - 2 dp ports no dvi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->4 front, 2 back, 1 inside limited space | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit supports AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 DDR3L SODIMMs side by side - mSATA ssd and M.2 SSD are M1.6 screws, M2.0 screws used on most SSDs - 19.5V 3.33A Coax male 7.4mm 5mm with centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP T530 *AMD GX-215JJ (2 core) 1.5GHz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 m.2 sata ssd up to 2280 | <!--Gfx-->Radeon R2E | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->1 USB3.1, 1 usb-c front, 4 USB2 back | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2015 64 bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 1 204-pin DDR4 SODIMM - smaller 19.5V 2.31A Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP T730 Wider "Thin" Client TPC-I018-TC Pixar RX-427BB (2c4t) - no display and fans blowing full speed caused by '''disabling internal gpu in bios''' flash L43_0116.bin onto smc MX25L6473F (3.3V 8-PIN SOP (200mil) SPI 25xx) ([https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubleshooting-hardware-devices-and-electronics-theory/troubleshooting-desktop-motherboards-graphics-cards-and-pc-peripherals/bios-schematic-requests/96303-hp-t730-password-locked-bios in the rom rcvry socket under a delicate thin narrow surface flap]) with ch341a alike switchable from 5v, 3.3v to 1.8v | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{partial|Storage bios option to IDE and not AHCI to prevent constant install error messages to DH0: - add noacpi to end of grub boot line - 1 M.2 SATA slot (Key B+M) up to 2280 with T8 torx secure stub}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use VESA for non-vulkan Radeon R7 GCN 2 UVD4.2 Sea Islands with 4 dp outs '''but too easy bricking''' if swapping with 1 PCIe 3.0 x8 slot 30W slim factor low profile 8400gs gt210 nvs295 nvs310 gt1030}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDaudio 6.34 realtek alc221 codec thru case speaker only}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|'''Works''' for 4 USB2 in the back with 2 in the front but '''not''' for 2 USB3 ports on front and 1 more internal (not bootable)}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111HSH-CG set up first in Prefs/Network}} | <!--Test Distro-->boots with most AROS One 32bit USB with added noacpi added to grub boot - Latest distros can select grub boot options with Aros One 64bit USB and Aros One USB 2.8 but system seems to freeze after choice | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit supports AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 DDR3L notebook RAM sodimm stacked slots max 32GB - '''Larger''' 20cm/8" high 3.5ltr case noisy fan - TPM2 - esc/F9 boot selector F10 enter bios - 2 serial and 1 parallel old ports - Key E Wireless - PCIe slot (x16 physical, x8 electrical - 19.5V 4.36A 85w TPC-LA561 HP 7.4mm black-ring-tip power plug, red flashing power button, wrong psu or bad MotherBoard MB - |- | <!--Name-->HP t630 Thin Client TPC-I020-TC *AMD Embedded G-Series SoC GX-420GI quad core 2Ghz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|ahci.device 2 Sata M.2, sata0 up to 2280 (1tb max), sata1 2242 (64gb max), both T8 torx secure stubs}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use VESA for Radeon AMD Wani R7E with 2 displayport 1.2 sockets - no dvi / hdmi}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 6.34 VOID for controller 0x1022 0x157a and not detected ALC255 codec x10ec x0255 aka ALC3234, pins 0x17 as LFE and 0x1b as int speaker}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2 2 front and 2 rear but not 2 front USB3 and 1 inside}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169 8111H}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB 2.2 | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit supports AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 DDR4 SODIMMs side by side speed 1866Mhz limit - 19.5V 3.33A 65W TPC-BA54 Coax male 7.4mm with centre pin - can be easily bricked, might reflash bios with M40 SP149736 - 20cm/8" high 1.5ltr larger fanless case - esc f1 f9 f10 - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq Elite 7200 7300 8200 8300 SFF with kettle IEC psu cable | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE ata legacy only in BIOS}} | <!--Gfx-->i pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|8200 works}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel or Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit dual core - add pci-e rtl8169 ethernet card and pci-e gf210 nvidia low height - |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq Pro 6305 Small Form Factor SFF AMD A75 chipset (FCH 6 SATA 6 Gb/s, 4 USB 3.0) *AMD Quad A10-5800B *AMD A8-5500B *AMD Dual A6-5400B *AMD A4-5300B | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 7000 Terascale iGPU series Radeon HD 7660D, Radeon HD 7560D, Radeon HD 7540D, Radeon HD 7480D | <!--Audio-->HD ALC221 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 5761}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Elitedesk 705 G1 - SFF *AMD A10-8850B, Quad-Core A10 PRO-7850B, A10-8750B *AMD A10-7800B, A10 PRO-6800B, A8-7600B *AMD A8-8650B, A6-8550B *AMD A6-8350B, Dual A6 PRO 7400B, A4-7300B | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D with Radeon R7 or 8000}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD audio with Realtek ALC221 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom or Intel}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - T15 security torx psu with 6pin PWR 200W connector - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteDesk 705 G2, 705 G3 Mini PC USFF thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2.5in and m.2 | <!--Gfx-->Radeon R7 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5762 GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit AM4 socket with 35W TDP A10-8770E (4c), AMD PRO A6-8570E (2c), AMD Pro A6-9500E, or AMD PRO A10-9700E on AMD B300 FCH - ddr4 sodimm slots - 77 x 175 x 34mm (6.97 x 6.89 x 1.34in) 1L and about 3lbs - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteDesk 705 G4 Mini 1ltr USFF AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (4c t) or 5 2400G (4c t) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Nvme 2280 and 2.5in sata}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 thru DP1.2 port | <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio Conexant codec}} | <!--USB-->USB2 usb3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit Am4 socket - 2 sodimm 16GB max - 19.5v hp socket ext psu - |- | <!--Name-->Elitedesk 705 G4 35w, Elitedesk 705 G4 65w, HP Prodesk 405 G4 35W USFF - AMD Athlon PRO 200GE (2c 4t), 2200GE (4c t) or 2400GE (4c t) on AMD B350 FCH, Elitedesk 705 G5 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Nvme 2280 and older models 2.5in sata}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 3, 8 or 11 with 2 dp1.2 ports | <!--Audio-->HD audio with Conexant CX20632 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111EPH 1Gbe or Realtek RTL8111F | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - realtek wifi 8821 or 8822 - up to 1 ddr4 dimm slots - 12v up to 180w ac - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitedesk 806 G6, Prodesk 405 G6 3400GE Ryzen 5 PRO 3350GE (4c 8t), Ryzen 3 PRO 3200GE 3150GE (4c 4t), AMD Athlon Silver PRO 3125GE (2c 4t) on AMD PRO 565 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2x NVMe or 1x SATA + 1x NVMe, but not all three drives at the same time without serious modding of hd caddie || <!--Gfx-->Vega with DP1.4 port || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC3205 codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->HP t540 1ddr4 slot, t640 2 DDR4 SDRAM sodimm SO-DIMM 260-pin non-ECC max 32gb thin client USFF | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 NVM Express (NVMe) 2230 or 2280 | <!--Gfx-->Vega 3 VGA, DisplayPort | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->2 USB3 gen1 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek Realtek RTL8111HSH or RTL8111E PH-CG | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit ryzen r1000 series Ryzen Embedded R1305G 1.5 GHz, R1505G dual (2c 4t) 2.0Ghz or R1606G ?.?Ghz (2c4t) - Realtek RTL8852AE wifi - 45W psu Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP t740 SFF Thin Client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 M.2, one is sata and other nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 DisplayPort or + optional pci-e 30W Radeon E9173 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E PH-CG 1Gbe | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - Ryzen Embedded V1756B 3.25Ghz quad - 90W 19.5V 4.62A psu Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - sodimm DDR4 max 64Gb - slightly noisy fan - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteDesk 805 G6 Mini 4750GE (8t 16t), Prodesk 405 G6 Ryzen 5 PRO 4650GE (6c 12t) or Ryzen 3 PRO 4350GE (4c 8t) on AMD PRO 565 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2.5in carrier and 2 slots m.2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 with DP1.4 and HDMI flex io2 output options | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC3205 codec | <!--USB-->4 usb a - gen 2 10gig and gen 1 5gig ports | <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit AMD Ryzen 4000 SBC unlocked - 2 sodimm ddr4 slots - wifi6 - 90W ac - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Lenovo==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo Nettop IdeaCentre Q150 (40812HU) | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio--> realtek codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->intel 10/100 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit D510 |- | <!--Name-->M625q Tiny (1L) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->M.2 Sata | <!--Gfx-->Stoney Radeon R2, R3 or R4 and later R5 with 2 dp ports | <!--Audio-->HD audio with ALC233-VB2-CG codec 0x10EC 0x0233 | <!--USB-->{{No|3 usb3.1 Gen 1 and 3 usb2}} | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit all dual cores - e2-9000e or a4-9120e later A9-9420e - heatsink covers 70% area covers wifi - 65w or 135w lenovo rectangle ac - 1 ddr4 2666MHz slot max 8gb - tpm 2.0 - |- | <!--Name-->M715q Gen 1 AMD A6 A8 A10-9700E 9770E (2c2t) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 | <!--Gfx-->R4 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->M715q Gen 2 Ryzen 5 PRO 2400GE 4C 8T | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 | <!--Gfx-->Vega 11 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - f1 enter setup, esc device boot - fixed 1.8v ch341a needed to reflash 1.8v bios if no boot SOP8 DIP8 Winbond W25Q64, MXIC MX25U1635, MX25U6435 - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkCenter M75n nano Ryzen3 3300U | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->ThinkCentre M75q M75q-1 Tiny 1ltr TMM AMD Ryzen 5 PRO Quad 3500 Pro 3400GE (4c 8t) 11a5 soe400, 3200GE (2c 4t) zen1+ 11a4 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|NVMe 2280 1Tb max - untested 2.5inch}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 11 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio codec | <!--USB-->3 USB3 Gen 1 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 65w 20v 3.25A to 135W rectangle psu - 2 sodimm ddr4 sodimm max 32GB locked 2666MHz - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkCentre Ryzen 7 PRO Tiny 1ltr Gen 2 AMD 4000 series 4650GE (6c12t) 4750GE (8c16t) 4350G (4c8t) Zen2 - | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|NVme}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit vendor locked - 20v psu - 2 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkcenter M75q-2 Gen2 refresh | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Radeon Vega | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GigE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 5650GE (6c12t) 5750GE (8c16t) - vendor/PSB can lock your AMD CPU - f12 boot devices |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Thinkcentre M75q Tiny Gen5 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} | <!--SATA-->2 NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 780M dp1.4a or hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 usb-c | <!--Ethernet-->1GBe port | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2024 Ryzen PRO 7 8700GE - 90W yellow rectangle connector psu - 2 DDR5 sodimm slots max 128Gb - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |} ====Misc==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Impart impact Media Group IQ Box mini Digital Signage with MB896 mini itx | <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->GMA 915 gme | <!--Audio--> via audio | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - 1 ddr2 slot - pentium m 1.73GHz - |- | <!--Name-->[https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_mini/specs/mac_mini_cd_1.83-specs.html Apple A1176 Intel MacMini1,1] | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{unk|gpt/efi }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|gma950 2d and 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ICH7 [https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/186749 Sigmatel Stac 9221] [https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/msm/+/android-wear-5.1.1_r0.6/sound/pci/hda/patch_sigmatel.c codec][https://alsa-devel.alsa-project.narkive.com/Yt20W6cE/sigmatel-stac9221-mux-amp-out-0x02-microphone-not-working mic]}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2006 32bit possible 1.83 GHz Intel “Core Duo” (T2400) - swap pci-e wifi for atheros 5k AR5007EG - maybe hack with a 2,1 firmware - max 4GB Ram ddr2 sodimms - external apple psu - dvd boot only with c key - |- | <!--Name-->[https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_mini/specs/mac-mini-core-2-duo-1.83-specs.html Apple A1176 Intel Mac Mini2,1] | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{unk|gpt/efi }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|gma950 2d and 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ICH7 Sigmatel Stac 9221 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} | <!--Test Distro-->Aros One 2.0/ Icaros (latest beta) | <!--Comments-->2007 64bit - swap pci-e wifi for atheros 5k AR5007EG - hacked with a 2,1 firmware and replaced the cpu for T7600 2.33 Ghz C2D and max 4GB Ram ddr2 sodimms - external apple psu - dvd boot only via c key |- | <!--Name-->Apple iMac 5,1 "Core 2 Duo" 1.83GHz 17" T5600 MA710LL || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 with 64Mb || <!--Audio-->HDAudio idt codec || <!--USB-->3 USB2 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit - 2 ddr2 667MHz sodimm slots - 17.0" TFT widescreen 1440x900 - polycarbonate |- | <!--Name-->Apple iMac 6,1 "Core 2 Duo" 2.16 2.33 24" only T7400 T7600 aka MA456LL/A A1200 (EMC 2111) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia 7300GT with 128 MB of GDDR3 SDRAM PCI Express or GeForce 7600GT with 256Mb mini dvi, vga || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->3 USB2 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit - 2 ddr2 667MHz sodimm slots - 24.0" TFT widescreen 1920 x 1200 - polycarbonate plastic case iMacs of this generation are the most difficult iMacs to service due to their front bezel design |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA2 | <!--IDE-->flash "DiskOnModule" | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->S3 Inc ProSavage PM133 (rev 02) vga | <!--Audio-->VIA VT82C686 AC97 Audio | <!--USB-->USB | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8139 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - VIA Ezra 800MHz - 2 PC100 sodimm slots - riser board carries an ISA slot and a PCI slot - external 12V power supply.with 4 pins - |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA5 Capio One | <!--IDE-->44pin DiskOnModule | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->SiS550 vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with SiS7019 codec | <!--USB-->USB1.1 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8139 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - internal power supply with mains lead has a "clover leaf" style - 2 144-pin PC100 or PC133 SODIMM might have 24MB of RAM soldered - |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA10 *E140 model BL-XX-XX (800MHz CPU) later *E100 model BK-XX-XX (1GHz CPU) | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA VT8623 (Apollo CLE266) vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with | <!--USB-->4 USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102/VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 74) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2004/5 32bit - 12v 5.5mm/2.1mm - 2 184-pin DDR DIMM - |- | <!--Name-->VXL Itona thin client *TC3200, *TC3x41 (P3VB-VXL) TC3541 TC3641 TC3841, *TC3xx1 (6VLE-VXL0) TC3931, *TC43xx (Gigabyte C7V7VX) TC4321 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA vga | <!--Audio-->AC'97 Audio with VIA VT | <!--USB-->VIA USB | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8100B | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2005 2006 32bit VIA Samuel 2, VIA C3 Nehamiah CPU, 1 DIMM slot, internal psu, |- | <!--Name-->Neoware Capio C50, model CA15 Thin Clients] *Login Administrator Password Administrator *Login User Password User | <!--IDE-->1 flash DiskOnModule | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA VT8623 (Apollo CLE266) vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with via codec | <!--USB-->USB | <!--Ethernet-->VIA | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2006 32bit VIA Eden (Samuel II core) CPU - 1 ddr sodimm slot max 512mb - slot - internal psu clover leaf - |- | <!--Name-->[http://etoy.spritesmind.net/neowareca21.html Neoware CA21 Thin Clients] Igel 3210 (and maybe the Clientron G270) *Login Administrator Password Administrator *Login User Password User | <!--IDE-->1 flash DiskOnModule | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA CN700 vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with via codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit VIA C3 Nehemiah instead of Ezra-T - made 2 version of the CA 21, one with an Award bios and one with a Phoenix bios - 1 ddr2 sodimm slot max 1gb - VT6656 wireless - slot - internal psu iec - |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA22 (e140), part number DD-L2-GE with BCOM WinNET P680 (V4) as the Igel 4210LX (Igel 5/4) | <!--IDE-->1 VIA VT82C586A/B VT82C686/A/B VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA CN700 P4M800 Pro CE VN800 Graphics [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01) vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with codec | <!--USB-->USB2 VIA VT8237R Plus | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102/VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - VIA Esther to later C7 1GHz - 1 ddr2 sodimm slots max 512mb - +12V DC/4.16A/50W 5.5mm/2.1mm coaxial - |- | <!--Name-->10Zig RBT402, Clientron U700, | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|44 pin header very little room}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A|}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Partial|VESA dvi}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|VIA }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - very small cases with very limited expansion - 1 sodimm 2GB max - 12v 3a psu - Password Fireport |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Dell Optiplex FX170 D05U thin client, 10Zig 56xx range 5602, 5616v, 5617v, 5672v, Clientron U800, Devon IT TC5, | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|44 pin header very little room}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A|}} | <!--Gfx-->{{partial|GMA 950 dvi}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit - very small cases with very limited expansion - 1 ddr2 sodimm 2GB max - 12v 3a psu - Password Fireport - ps2 keyboard socket - |- | <!--Name-->10Zig RBT-616V or Chip PC Technologies EX-PC (model number XPD4741) | <!--IDE-->{{unk|44 pin header very little room}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A|}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 950}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|HD Audio with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|rtl8169}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit N270 on NM10 with ICH7 - very small cases with very limited expansion - 1 sodimm 2GB max - 12v 4a psu - Password Fireport |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Brix GS-A21S-RH (rev. 1.0) SFF | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|X3100}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC883-GR codec}} | <!--USB-->Intel USB | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82566DC}} | <!--Test Distro-->ICAROS 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit Intel GME965 chipset with Intel ICH8M - 2 DDR2 Dimm slots - GA-6KIEH2-RH Rev.1.x mini ITX Case 213mm(D) x 64mm(W) x 234mm(H) - custom psu - |- | <!--Name-->VXL Itona MD+24 MD27 MD54 MD64 MD76 thin client | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->VIA Chrome 9 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA VT | <!--USB-->VIA | <!--Ethernet-->VIA | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit VIA X2 U4200 - 12v-19v barrel psu - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Revo 100 RL100 AMD Athlon II X2 K325 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® ION™ 9300m || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC662 codec || <!--USB-->USB2 1 front 2 back || <!--Ethernet-->NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2010 64bit but no AVX - 4Gb DDR3 sodimm - 500 GB - 19v 3.42a 65W - dvd but later BD drive - |- | <!--Name-->Asrock ION 330 330Pro HT-BD, Foxconn NT-330i, Zotac ION F (IONITX mini itx), | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ION geforce 9400}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Nvidia USB}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Nvidia }} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit slow atom cpu - 2.5L 8" by 8" plastic case - 2 ddr2 sodimm max 4G - external 19v 65W 3.42A Plug 5.5mm X 2.5mm - little whiny fan - |- | <!--Name-->Zotac ZBOXHD-ND01 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION1 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->NVidia | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Zotac ZBOX HD-ID11 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with ALC888 codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111D | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 |- | <!--Name-->ZOTAC ZBOX Blu-ray 3D ID36 Plus | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->sata | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->2 USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->GbE | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Shuttle XS35GT || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ION || <!--Audio-->HD audio IDT92HD81 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|JMC261}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - Atom™ D510 NM10 - DDR2 |- | <!--Name-->Shuttle XS35GT V2 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ION2 || <!--Audio-->HD audio IDT92HD81 || <!--USB-->Intel || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|JMC251}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit Atom™ D525 NM10 chipset - DDR3 |- | <!--Name-->Sapphire Edge-HD || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ION2 GT218 with vga and hdmi || <!--Audio-->HDAudio realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - Atom™ D510 NM10 - DDR2 65 W AC, DC 19V~3.42A, 19.3L x 14.8w x 2.2H cm (1l), weight 530g, |- | <!--Name-->Sapphire Edge-HD2 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|nouveau ION2 GT218 with vga and hdmi 2d and 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|Intel USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit Atom™ D525 NM10 chipset - DDR3 |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.jetwaycomputer.com/JBC600C99352W.html Jetway JBC600C99352W] | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio-->{{No|C-Media CM108AH}} | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111DL | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit D525 - DDR3 - 12v psu |- | <!--Name-->Foxconn nT-A3550 A3500 AMD A45 Chipset DDR3 Nettop Barebones - White | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 slot | <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon HD6310 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 USB2 back and 2 USB3 front | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD Dual-core E350 1.6GHz CPU - 1 ddr3 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Asus EeeBox PC EB1021 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD6320M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE1 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit - AMD® Brazos E-350 SFF or E-450 with A50M - 2 ddr3l so-dimm - 40W ac - |- | <!--Name-->Xi3 Piston PC Athlon64 X2 3400e (X5A), AMD R-464L quad (X7A) Z3RO NUC | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->AMD mobility HD3650 to radeon HD 7660G | <!--Audio--> codec | <!--USB-->4 USB2 3 USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8161}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 - 2 sodimm 8GB max - 19v 3.3a round - Titan105 bios update - |- | <!--Name-->Sapphire Edge-HD3 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD6320M with vga and hdmi || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC662 codec || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE1 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD® Brazos E-450 with A45M - ddr3l so-dimm - 65W ac - Wireless is Realtek 8191SU WiFi (802.11n) or AzureWave (802.11bgn) - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Samsung Syncmaster Thin Client Display TC-W Series 24" LF24 TOWHBFM/EN TC220W LED LF22TOW HBDN/EN || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->8gb SSD || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe| VESA mode only Radeon HD 6290}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->2 USB 2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 thin Client C-50 C50 AMD® 1000 MHz and no wireless |- | <!--Name-->Advantech TPC-2140 thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 atom-like G-T56E 1.65Ghz up to SSE3, BGA413 soldered - |- | <!--Name-->CompuLab FIT-PC3 fitPC3 USFF PC AMD G-T56N || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->RADEON HD 6320 || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio ALC888 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 8111}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64 bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 12v 3a - 2x sodimm DDR3 max 4GB - wifi rtl8188ce |- | <!--Name-->10Zig 6872 thin client | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 atom-like G-T56N up to SSE3 BGA413 (FT1) soldered - DDR3l single channel - |- | <!--Name-->10ZiG 7800q thin client | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon 5E 3840 x 2160 @ 30Hz to 2560 x 1600 @ 60Hz 2 x Display Port | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->6 x USB2.0 2 x USB3.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD GX-424CC (Quad Core) 2.4GHz BGA769 (FT3b) SSE4 and AVX - 1 ddr3 sodimm - 12V 4A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm |- | <!--Name--> *Itona VXL MZE12 AMD a4-5000 thin client *VXL Itona LQ27 LQ+27 LQ44 LQ+44 LQ49 LQ+49 LQ50 LQ+50 LQ64 LQ+64 thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Ati 8330 vga hdmi dp | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 usb2 2 usb3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit quad BGA769 (FT3) soldered - 2 stacked sodimm ddr3 middle of mobo - 2 m.2 sata slots - 1 sata short cable half size space - limited 1ltr 8in case no fan - 19v hp style psu connector - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 5212 21.5" AIO Thin Client W11B | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Sata | <!--Gfx-->R3 out from DP or vga | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2015 64bit slow atom like dual core AMD G-T48E 1.4 GHz - dell type round ac needed 90W 19.5V 4.62A - 21 inch 1080p screen - |- | <!--Name-->LG 24CK560N-3A 24' All-in-One Thin Client Monitor, 27CN650N-6N 27CN650W-AC 27', 34CN650W-AC 34', | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2018 64bit AMD Prairie Falcon GX-212JJ |- | <!--Name-->CompuLab fit-PC4 fitPC4 4x 2Ghz AMD || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64 - 2x DDR4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->IGEL Hedgehog M340C UD3 thin client *2016 V1.0 AMD GX-412HC 1.2GHz-1.6GHz Radeon R3E, normal bios DEL for Bios or F12 boot selector *2018 AMD GX-424CC 2.4GHz, Radeon R5E, UEFI hit DEL and choose boot or SCU icon | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->SATA half slim version '''limited space''' with msata slot on earlier 2016 models | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Radeon R3E later R5E sea islands vulkan 1.2 with dvi dp output}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec ?? (412) and Realtek ALC662-VD0-GR (424), both case speaker}} | <!--USB-->amd usb3 boot usb2 with bios "disable usb" entry | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169 8111 (412) and (424)}} | <!--Test Distro-->Aros One x86 USB 1.5, 1.8 and 2.2 | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 20cm/8" high case - 1 DDR3L sodimm slot max 8Gb 1600MHz - external '''12V 3A''' supply with 5.5mm/2.1mm coaxial - IDE like interface under base stand is for legacy addon ports RS232 parallel etc - capacitive touch power on - case opening 3 stages, remove stand and narrow black plastic strip from the back, top cover slides off to the back and lifts off - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->IGEL UD3 M350C (UEFI issues) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->None but 8gb emmc | <!--Gfx-->Vega 3 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek ALC897 or ALC888S codec | <!--USB-->USB 3.2 and 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - AMD Ryzen™ R R1505G Dual-Core 10W TDP - 2 DDR4 sodimms slots max 16Gb - 12V 4A psu - 2x DisplayPort 1.2 no dvi or hdmi - Intel® 9260 or SparkLAN WNFT-238AX wifi - 1x rear serial Prolific PL2303 chipset - locked down components and very limited expansion options - |- | <!--Name-->IGEL UD7 H860C AMD Ryzen V1605B Thin Client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 AMD Ryzen™ Embedded V1605B 2 – 3.6 GHz (Quad-Core) - 12v 5A psu - up to 16GB RAM DDR4 - locked down components and very limited expansion options - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Brix Barebone Mini PC BSRE-1605 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 M.2 | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC269 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->2 GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit AMD Ryzen V1605B - 2 DDR4 sodimm slots |- | <!--Name-->EliteGroup LIFA Q3 Plus | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit AMD Ryzen Embedded V1000, V1605B - |- | <!--Name-->MINISFORUM Deskmini UM250 Mini PC | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit AMD Ryzen V1605B - |- | <!--Name-->Shuttle DA320 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->R3 R5 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC662 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->dual realtek 1GbE 8111H | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Opinion-->2017 64bit AMD 2200G 2400G - Robust metal 1.3-liter case - A320 chipset DDR4 - 19V 6.32A DC PSU - |- | <!--Name-->T-Bao MN25 Mini PC 2500U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Unk|Intel NVMe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA Radeon Vega 8}} | <!--Audio-->{{Unk| }} | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek PCIe 1GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Minis Forum M200 Silver Athlon M300 3300U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1 and 2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek PCIe 2.5G}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Minis Forum DeskMini UM300 3300U, UM350 DMAF5 3550H, UM370 and UM700 with 3750H | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1 and 2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek PCIe 2.5G}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit |- | <!--Name-->MinisForum X300 with AMD 3400G | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1 and 2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek PCIe 2.5G}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Beelink SER3 GTR4 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega 3 or 10 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RJ45 1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit 3200u or 3750h |- | <!--Name-->Beelink SER4 GTR5 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->cant boot from installed SSDs unless its an M.2 | <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->1 or 2 Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 4700U or 5900HX |- | <!--Name-->MSI PRO DP20Z 5M Mini PC - AMD Ryzen 5 5300G | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 2.5G LAN RTL8125}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->R3 3200G Vega 8 - R5 3400G Vega 11 - Ryzen 5 5600G Vega 7 - Athlon 3000G |- | <!--Name-->Minisforum UM450 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 2.5G LAN RTL8125}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - Ryzen 4500U - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Brix GB-BRR7-4800 (rev. 1.0) GB-BRR7-4700 (rev. 1.0) GB-BRR5-4500 (rev. 1.0) GB-BRR3-4300 (rev. 1.0) | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 2.5G LAN RTL8125 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS PN50 mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 4700U | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|3.1 gen1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|realtek 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS PN51-S1 mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 5700U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Vega thru dp or hdmi | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|3.1 gen1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|realtek 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 19v or 19.5v 90w psu round barrel - 32gb ddr4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Minis Forum Bessstar Tech EliteMini B550 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 x 2.5in and 2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{no|4 usb3.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|realtek 8125 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit AMD 4700G 5700G desktop cpu - 19v 120w round barrel - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock A300 and later X300 Mini itx with Desktop AM4 socket | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - choose your own AMD APU GE 35w based - DDR4 - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock 4x4 BOX-5800U Zen 3-based AMD Ryzen 7 5800U 15W - | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 slot gen 3 and sata | <!--Gfx-->vega | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|1 GbE and 1 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - WiFi 6E - |- | <!--Name-->Topton S500+ Gaming Mini PC - Morefine S500+ 5900HX Mini PC - Minisforum UM590 Ryzen AMD Zen3 Ryzen 9 5900HX 7 5800H 45W - | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme 1 sata | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 thru HDMI 2.0, DP 1.4, and USB type-C | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{no|usb3.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|1 realtek rtl 8111h and 1 8125 2.5GbE bg-cg}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 2 sodimm ddr4 3200MHz - |- | <!--Name-->Chuwi RzBox later Ubox | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 later to 660m vga, dp, hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->{{No|usb-c usb2}} | <!--Ethernet-->dual gigabit | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 2025 64bit amd 5800h 4800h 6600H - 90w psu - |- | <!--Name-->Beelink Mini PC SER5, Trigkey AZW S5, Asus PN52, ZHI BEN MX-JB560, | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->PCIe3 M.2 2280 nvme | <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega 6 with 1 or 2 hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->{{No|USB3.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 1GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 5500U 5560u 5600U to PRO 5600H 5800H - 19v 3.42W 65W psu - |- | <!--Name-->NIPOGI Kamrui ACEMAGICIAN AM06PRO Dual LAN Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, 5 5500U or 5600U/5625U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->M.2 and 2.5in sata | <!--Gfx-->Vega 7 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->2 GbE ports | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - plastic build - 90w usb-c power - loud at 25W setting - |- | <!--Name-->Topton FU02 Fanless Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 4700U 5600U 5800U 8 Core 16 Threads | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe and 2.5in sata | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->4 3.0 with 2 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->2 x 1G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64 - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - fanless with copper cube from cpu to metal sheet which gets warm |- | <!--Name-->Xuu XR1 Lite (5300u 4c 8t) PRO 5400U MAX 5600U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 NVMe 2242 slot | <!--Gfx-->Vega 6 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->2 3.0 | <!--Ethernet-->1G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64 quiet fan - very small case no expansions - |- | <!--Name-->MINISFORUM UM690 Venus Series | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->pcie4 nvme 2280 and 1 sata3 2.5in | <!--Gfx-->680m RNDA2 12CU with 2 hdmi | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|1 USB4 and 2 USB3.2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|2.5G LAN}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 6900hx 8C16T - 2 ddr5 sodimmm - 19v ???W - |- | <!--Name-->Beelink Mini PC GTR6 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->PCIe4 | <!--Gfx-->AMD 680M RDNA2 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->USB3.2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 2.5GbE or intel i225}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit Ryzen 9 6900HX Zen3+ and a 2gb Radeon 680m 12CU ddr5 sodimm - 19v 120w psu - |- | <!--Name-->Asus PN53, Geekom AS 6, | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->pcie gen4 nvme and ata 2.5in | <!--Gfx-->680m RNDA2 12CU with 2 hdmi and 1 dp | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|2 usb-c, 2 USB2.1 and 3 USB3.2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|1G LAN}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 6900hx 8C 16T - 2 slots ddr5 sodimmm (64Gb max) - 19v 120W - 4 retained base screws beware ribbon cable - |- | <!--Name-->Micro Computer (HK) Tech Ltd MinisForum UM773 Lite later UM750L slim, GMKtec K2 Mini PC | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe PCIe4.0 | <!--Gfx-->RDNA | <!--Audio-->HD Audio | <!--USB-->USB4 | <!--Ethernet-->2.5GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2023 2025 64bit - AMD Zen 3+ (8c 16t) Ryzen 7 7735HS, 7840HS and AMD Ryzen 9 7845HX AMD Ryzen™5 7545U (6c12t) - 19v up to 120w ac adapter - ddr5 sodimm 4800Mhz - |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.asrockind.com/en-gb/4x4 ASrock 4x4 SBC] | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->sata or nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega or 680M | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 or USB4 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 1GbE or intel 2.5GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Beelink Mini PC GTR7 SER7 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->PCIe4 nvme 2280 up to 2Tb | <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M RDNA3 GPU output on hdmi and dp | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3.2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|1 or 2 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2023 64bit AMD Phoenix APUs Zen 4 CPU Ryzen 7 7840HS or 9 7940HS (8c 16t) - 19v 5.26A 120w psu - del dios setup f7 choose boot - 2 thunderbolt-type usb-c on back - up to 64gb via 2 ddr5 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->MINISFORUM BD770i Ryzen 7 7745HX (8c16t) or BD795i SE 790i 9 7945HX (16c32t) or F1FXM_MB_V1.1 795M LGA1700 mATX | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 610m over usb-c, dp or hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 with 2 rear USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 2.5G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Opinion-->2024 mini-ITX M/B is the first MoDT (Mobile on Desktop) with soldered AMD CPU - 2 dual PCIe4.0 M.2 slots - 2 ddr5 sodimm slots max 5200Mhz - 8pin cpu power - battery not easily replaceable underneath - |- | <!--Name-->mINISORUM ms-a1 MS-a2 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->AMD 610M | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->dual 2.5GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2024 64bit - 19v ?A round barrel jack - 2 ddr5 so-dimm slots - choose from 5700G to 8700G apu - |- | <!--Name-->NextSBC 7840HS | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Nvme | <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M 12CU | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec | <!--USB-->USB4 and USB 3.2 | <!--Ethernet-->2 GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - 32Gb soldered - |- | <!--Name-->Minisforum UM870 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVme || <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M || <!--Audio-->HDaudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->2.5GbE || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Server Systems=== [[#top|...to the top]] ====IBM==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="15%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->xSeries 206m | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ATI RN50b (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{n/a}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0 (UHCI/EHCI)}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2014-09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Motherboard=== [[#top|...to the top]] * Late 2002, USB2.0 added and slightly better AROS sound support (AC97) appeared * 2002-2005 and still, to a limited extent, ongoing [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague bad capacitors] * Late 2003, ATX PSUs moved from 5V to 12v rails (extra 4pin on motherboard for CPU) * Late 2005, PCI Express replaced AGP and HDAudio replaced AC97 * Late 2007, ATX PSUs added extra 12V PCI-E connectors and 4+4pin for CPUs * Late 2010, USB3.0 appears on motherboards or needing a PCI-E motherboard slot * Late 2014 Hardware USB2 removed from USB3 chipsets ====AMD==== [[#top|...to the top]] =====Socket 7 (1997/1999)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->1997 VT82C586B (QFP-208) is the first from VIA with DDMA |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2000 VT82C686 has close to excellent DDMA support |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->SiS 5581/5582 SiS 5591/5595 SiS 530 /5595 SiS 600/5595 SiS 620/5595 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket A 462 (2001/4)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/motherboards/article.php/2217921/ABIT-NF7-S-nForce2-Motherboard-Review.htm Abit NF7-S] | <!--Chipset-->nForce 2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->SIL 3112A | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650 AC97 (Nvidia APU)}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL 8201LB | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Realtek RTL8801B |- | <!--Name-->ASRock K7NF2 | <!--Chipset-->nforce2 ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|AGP 8x}} | <!--Audio-->CMedia CMI 9761A AC'97 | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8201 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock K7S8X | <!--Chipset-->SIS 746FX | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|AGP 8x}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC'97 cmedia}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB2.0 works but does not boot}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|SiS900}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock K7S41GX | <!--Chipset-->SIS 741GX + DDR 333 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|onboard sis does not work with vga or vesa but AGP 8x works}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 SIS 7012}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB2.0 works but does not boot}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|SiS 900}} | <!--Opinion-->works ok |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.asus.com ASUS A7N8X] | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->Silicon Image Sil 3112A | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ac97 ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|ehci USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8201BL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->first total support for AROS in 2004/5 - damocles and M Schulz |- | <!--Name-->Biostar M7NCD | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650 AC97}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8201BL}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Chaintech 7NJS Ultra Zenith | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Promise PDC 20376 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|CMI8738}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->DFI Lanparty NF2 Ultra | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|via ac97 VT1616}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8139C | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ECS N2U400-A | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|Cmedia 9379A AC97}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|usb2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|VIA VT6103L}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA7N400L | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP 8x slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 ALC650}} | <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8100C | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.gigabyte.lv/products/page/mb/ga-8siml Gigabyte 8SIML] | <!--Chipset-->SIS 650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC'97}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|working}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Realtek RTL8100L LAN}} | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Matsonic [http://www.elhvb.com/mobokive/archive/matsonic/manual/index.html Manuals] MS83708E | <!--Chipset-->SIS730 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|SiS 5513}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|sis 305 no support use VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|sis7018}} | <!--USB-->{{no|SiS 7001 USB 1.1 only}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|SIS900}} | <!--Opinion-->little support |- | <!--Name-->[http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph07585&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&dest_page=softwareCategory&os=228&tool=softwareCategory&query=Pavilion%20742n&product=89232 MSI MS-6367 HP 722n 742n (Mambo) (2001/2)] | <!--Chipset-->Nvidia nforce 220D (2001/2) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->GeForce2 AGP works 2D nouveau only | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|AC97 ADI 1885 no volume control on Units 0-3}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 USB1.1 ports AMD based - front 2 ports iffy}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|nForce}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested 20th Aug 2012 NB |- | <!--Name-->MSI K7N2 [http://us.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&prod_no=546/ Delta ILSR] Delta-L | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 (2002/3) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|Primary & Secondary ports}} IDE Tertiary port (RAID) | <!--SATA-->2 ports (RAID) | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|when fitted with an agp video card}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ac97 ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8201BL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->runs AROS well. Tested with Icaros 1.2.3 |- | <!--Name-->MSI K7N2 Delta2-LSR Platinum | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 (2002/3) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|Primary & Secondary ports}} IDE Tertiary port (RAID) | <!--SATA-->2 ports (RAID) | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|when fitted with an agp video card}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|ac97 ALC655}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8201BL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->runs AROS well. Tested with Icaros 1.2.3 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/motherboards/article.php/2204281/Soltek-SL-75MRN-L-nForce2-Motherboard-Review.htm Soltek 75FRN-L] | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|2 ports}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->AGP slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 usb2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek RTL8201BL}} | <!--Opinion-->good support |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.3dvelocity.com/reviews/mach4nf2ultra/mach4.htm XFX Pine Mach4 nForce2 Ultra 400] | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|3 ports}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|2 ports VIA VT6240}} | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP 8x slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8201BL}} | <!--Opinion-->some support |- | <!--Name-->ASUS A7V266 | <!--Chipset-->via KT266A + 8233 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{no|issues}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot | <!--Audio-->AC97 with AD1980 codec | <!--USB-->via 8233 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6103 | <!--Opinion-->2002 issues with booting |- | <!--Name-->Asus A7V8X-X | <!--Chipset-->VIA KT400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{unk| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|agp}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 with ADI AD1980 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|VIA 8235}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|Realtek 10/100}} | <!--Opinion-->2003 not booting for Socket A for AMD Barton/Thoroughbred/Athlon XP/Athlon/Duron 2.25+ GHz CPU - 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets Max. 3 GB - |- |} =====Socket 754 (2004/5)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Abit NF8-V2 | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 250GB (2004/5) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|2 ports}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|2 ports}} | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot x8 | <!--Audio-->ALC658 ac97 | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8201C}} | <!--Opinion-->a little support but no Firewire VIA VT6306 |- | <!--Name-->Biostar CK8 K8HNA Pro | <!--Chipset-->nforce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->VT6420 thru ide legacy only | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 ALC655}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8110S | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VT6307 no |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/motherboards/Chaintech_ZNF3-150_3.html Chaintech ZNF3-150 Zenith] | <!--Chipset-->nforce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|Sli3114 SATA via IDE emul}} | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot | <!--Audio-->{{no|VIA Envy24PT (VT1720) + VT1616}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom GbE 5788}} | <!--Opinion-->very little support needs PCI cards but no Firewire VIA VT6306 |- | <!--Name-->DFI Lanparty UT nF3 250GB | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 250gb | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|2 ports nForce3 and 2 Marvell SATA PHY}} | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 ALC850}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->CK8S - Winfast NF3 250K8AA works and Marvell 88E1111 does not work | <!--Opinion-->2005 some support but no Firewire VIA VT6307 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-K8N | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA nForce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC658 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8100C | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TI43AB23 no |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte K8NNXP | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Sata sil3512 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC658 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTl8110S | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TI STB82AA2 no |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-K8NSNXP | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 250GB | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->SiI 3512 CT128 Sata Sil3515 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC850 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvel 88E8001}} | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->MSI K8N Neo-FIS2R | <!--Chipset-->nVIDIA NF3-250Gb | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Realtek 7.1 AC'97 ALC850 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E1111}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->[http://techreport.com/articles.x/5748/1 Shuttle AN50R] | <!--Chipset-->nF3-150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Sil 3112 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC650 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia nF3 (10/100) Intel 82540EM Gigabit | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VT6307 no |- | <!--Name--> Foxconn WinFast K8S755A | <!--Chipset-->SiS755 + SiS964 (DDR333) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> {{yes|AC97}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|RTL8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket 939 (2005)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus A8N-LA GeForce 6150 LE | <!--Chipset-->Geforce 6150 (MCP51) + nForce 430 (PC-3200) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|two ATA 133}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|four 3.0GB/s SATAII ports}} | <!--Gfx-->built in or PCI-E x16 | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC883 HD Audio | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL 8201CL | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus A8N-SLI Premium | <!--Chipset-->NVidia | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|PCIe slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|nForce LAN but not Marvell}} | <!--Opinion-->Works well |- | <!--Name-->DFI nF4 Ultra-D LanParty - Diamond Flower International sold to BenQ group 2010 | <!--Chipset-->nF4 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->4 ports SATA 2 | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe x16 slots | <!--Audio-->AC97 with ALC850 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Dual Gigabit Ethernet, PCIe by Vitesse VSC8201 PHY nee Cicada 8201, PCI by Marvel 88E8001 | <!--Opinion-->2006 64bit - Four 184-pin DDR Dual-Channel Slots - 1 pci on Ultra, 2 pci on sli, |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus A8V E SE | <!--Chipset-->VIA K8T890 +VT8237R CHIPSET ATX AMD Motherboard with Athlon 64 X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 | <!--ACPI-->{{N/A}} | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{N/A}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe}} AC97 driver using Realtek ALC850 codec | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} USB 2.0 only | <!--Ethernet-->{{No}} Marvell 88E8053 | <!--Opinion-->Good base but needs additional PCI cards added for better support |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS A8V Deluxe (2004) | <!--Chipset-->VIA K8T800 Pro (DDR400) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->Promise 20378 2 ports | <!--SATA-->2 SATA2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|VIA VT8233A 8235 8237 AC97}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit}} | <!--Opinion-->needs extra PCI cards |- |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->AsRock 939Dual-SATA2 | <!--Chipset-->Ali Uli M1695 PCIe with M1567 AGP | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->1 Sata with JMicron JMB360 chip | <!--Gfx-->1 pci-e and 1 agp | <!--Audio-->AC97 with ALC850 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8201CL PHY ULi 10/100 | <!--Opinion-->64bit pci-e and agp combo on board - 4 ddr slots - |} =====Socket AM2 (2006/8) and AM2+ (2007-2010) ===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 (rev. 2.x) | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA® GeForce 6100 / nForce 430 chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2d for vga}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio Realtek ALC662 Audio Codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M2N61-AR mini itx | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA nForce 430 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 | <!--SATA-->2 | <!--Gfx-->GeForce 6150SE via vga or 1 pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->Nvidia | <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia | <!--Opinion-->2006 32bit - 1 pci - 2 ddr2 dimm slots non-eec - |- | <!--Name-->asus m2n68-am se2 | <!--Chipset-->nvidia 630a 630/a MCP68SE | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 ports | <!--SATA-->2 ports MCP61 chipset is SATA over IDE, not SATA over AHCI and reports subsystem as 0x1 IDE, not 0x6 SATA | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|nvidia 7025 2d and 3d thru vga}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|hd audio with realtek alc662 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|nForce chipset RTL 8201CP}} | <!--Opinion-->2007 64bit Phenom IIX2, Athlon 64 LE X2, Sempron, and Phenom FX processors - ddr2 667Mhz ram max 4Gb - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0) | <!--Chipset-->AMD 770 with SB700 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888 codec }} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 8111C later 8111D}} | <!--Opinion-->Good support for AM2+ / AM2 with 4 ddr2 ram - 4 x PCI Express x1, 2 x PCI slots - firewire T.I. TSB43AB23 chip no support - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe | <!--Chipset-->AMD 790FX RD790 + SB600 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{No|Marvell 88SE6121 SATA II}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 1.1 support | <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio ADI® AD1988}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8056}} | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASROCK N68-S N68C-S | <!--Chipset-->AMD based nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|slimline DVD drive works}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GF 7025 use vesa}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio for VIA 1708S VT1705}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|echi usb 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8201EL / 8201CL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->2008 unbuffered 1066Mhz ddr2 ram - N68C-S may need noacpi added to grub boot line to disable pci temporarily to run as it cannot get to [PCI] Everything OK - |- | <!--Name-->Asus M2N68-AM Plus | <!--Chipset-->Athlon 64, Sempron, Athlon 64 X2, Athlon 64 FX with nvidia 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->no vga, pci-e slot only | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with ALC662 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8211CL Gigabit LAN}} | <!--Opinion-->adding "noacpi noapic noioapic" to the GRUB options - Dual channel DDR2 1066, 800, 667 MHz - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M68M-S2 (1.0) S2P (2.3) S2L GA-M68SM-S2 (1.x) | <!--Chipset-->nForce 630a chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025, vga (s2 and s2p), dvi (s2l) | <!--Audio-->ALC883 (S2), ALC888B (S2P), ALC662 (S2L), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8201CL (S2), 8211CL (S2P), 8211BL (S2L), | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit possible with AMD AM2+ CPU on AM2 motherboard, the system bus speed will downgrade from HT3.0(5200MHz) to HT1.0(2000 MT/s) spec |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M2N68-VM | <!--Chipset-->nForce 630a (MCP68PVNT) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Nvidia GeForce ® 7050PV hdmi, dvi and vga | <!--Audio-->HD audio VIA 1708B codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8211C | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit - ddr2 800Mhz |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket AM3 White socket (2010/11)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-MA74GM-S2 GA-MA74GM-S2H | <!--Chipset-->740g with sb710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|bios IDE}} | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 2100 and pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->ALC888 (r1.x),ALC888b (r2.0), ALC888B (rev4.x) | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111C later 8111D | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - 2 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets max 8 GB - Micro ATX Form Factor 24.4cm x 23.4cm - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.vesalia.de/e_aresone2011.htm Aresone 2011] | <!--Chipset-->760g | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|no Radeon HD3000 driver yet<br>vesa driver works<br>and add PCIe card}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes}} | <!--Opinion-->Good support - 4 DDR3 memory sockets - |- | <!--Name-->Foxconn A76ML-K 3.0 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760g rev3.0 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|1 }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|4 in IDE mode }} | <!--Gfx-->HD3000 with pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC662-GR codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit - 2 ddr3 slots - 2 pci slots - |- | <!--Name-->GA-MA770T-UD3P (rev. 1.0 to 1.4) | <!--Chipset-->amd 770 with sb710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|4 sata}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio with Realtek ALC888 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8168 rtl8111c/d}} | <!--Opinion-->2011 64 - 4 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 2.0 2.1) | <!--Chipset-->AMD 770 with SB700 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888 codec }} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 8111C later 8111D}} | <!--Opinion-->Good support for AM3 with 4 ddr2 ram - 4 x PCI Express x1, 2 x PCI slots - firewire T.I. TSB43AB23 chip no support - |- | <!--Name-->Asus M4A785TD-M PRO | <!--Chipset-->785G and SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|ide legacy}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ATI Radeon HD 4200 - use vesa}} or pci-e 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Opinion-->Good support with 1366 ddr3 ram - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M4A88T-I Deluxe ITX | <!--Chipset-->AMD 880G with AMD SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Three SATA 3Gbps | <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 4350 GPU with HDMI and DVI or One 16x PCI-Express 2.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC889 | <!--USB-->6 x USB 2, 2 x USB 3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek RTL8112L}} | <!--Opinion-->2014 64bit - 2 SODIMM DDR3 slots max 8GB |- | <!--Name-->Asus M4A88T-M Version E5907 E5826 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 880G SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 4250 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA VT 1708S codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek rtl8169 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->GigaByte 890GPA-UD3H | <!--Chipset-->AMD 890GX together with SB850 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Yes | <!--Gfx-->use pci-e nvidia | <!--Audio-->Maybe - ALC892 rev. 1.0, ALC892 rev 2.1, ALC889 rev. 3.1 | <!--USB-->Yes | <!--Ethernet-->Yes | <!--Opinion-->works well overall |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD7 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 890FX with SB850 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE }} | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC889 (rev 2.x) | <!--USB-->{{Yes|AMD USB2 but limited with NEC D720200F1 USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->2 x Realtek 8111D | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - XL-ATX Form Factor 32.5cm x 24.4cm - 4 ddr3 slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 890GXM-G65 | <!--Chipset-->890GX + SB750 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|legacy}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ATI 4290 built-in (vesa)}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC889 DD GR}} HD Audio crackles | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock N68-VS3 FX | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 Sata2 | <!--Gfx-->Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA® VT1705 Codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek PHY RTL8201EL | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - 2 x DDR3 DIMM slots - |- | <!--Name-->MSI GF615M-P35 MS-7597 | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA® nForce 430 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->GeForce 6150SE | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with Realtek® ALC888S}} | <!--USB-->{{No|freezes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 8211CL}} | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M68MT-S2 | <!--Chipset--> nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 vga | <!--Audio-->ALC888B (1.3), ACL887 (3.1), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8211CL (all) | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit possible, AMD AM3 CPU on this motherboard, the system bus speed will downgrade from HT3.0 (5200MT/s) to HT1.0 (2000 MT/s) spec |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M68MT-S2P | <!--Chipset--> nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 vga | <!--Audio-->ALC888B (1.x 2.x), ALC889 (3.0), ALC888B/889 (3.1), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8211CL (all) | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M4N78 PRO | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA GeForce 8300 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 xUltraDMA 133/100 | <!--SATA-->6 xSATA 3 Gbit/s ports | <!--Gfx-->Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce® 8 series GPU with 1 PCIe 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA1708S 8 -Channel codec | <!--USB-->12 USB 2.0 ports (8 ports at mid-board, 4 ports at back panel) | <!--Ethernet-->NVIDIA Gigabit | <!--Opinion-->4 x DIMM, Max. 16 GB, DDR2 1200(O.C.)/1066*/800/667 ECC,Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory - ATX Form Factor 12 inch x 9.6 inch ( 30.5 cm x 24.4 cm ) - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket AM3+ Black socket (2012/15)===== *095W FX-6300 FD6300WMHKBOX (bulldozer SSE4.1 AVX) 970 mobos with FX-8320E 8core Black Editions FD832EWMHKBOX FX-8370E (Vishera/Piledriver) *125W FX-6310 (bulldozer) 970 mobos with FX-8320 FX-8350 FX-8370 (Vishera/Piledriver) *220W 990FX mobos with FX-9000 FX-9370 FX-9590 {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M5A78L-M LX3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760G with SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|bios IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->HD3000 with pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC887, V? ALC892 codecs | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros 8161/8171 add realtek 8111? pci-e card}} | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - uATX Form Factor 9.6 inch x 7.4 inch ( 24.4 cm x 18.8 cm ) - 2 x DIMM, Max. 16GB, DDR3 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760G and SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|6 SATA2 ports}} | <!--Gfx-->GT240 and a nv7900gs, both pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC889 (r3.1), ALC??? (rev. 4.0), ALC887 (r5.x)}} | <!--USB-->4 USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 8111E (r3.1), Atheros (rev4.0), Atheros (r5.x) }} | <!--Opinion-->2012 offers very poor control over its EFI vs. BIOS booting partition features |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 (r3.0), (r4.1 Blue board), (r5.0 dark board), (rev6 dark mobo) | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760G and SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|Bios IDE mode for SATA2 on early ones}} | <!--Gfx-->AMD HD3000, pci-e GT240 and a nv7900gs | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC??? (r3.0), ALC887 (r4.1), VIA VT2021 (r5.0), Realtek® ALC892 codec (rev6) }} | <!--USB-->{{yes|AMD USB2 but not VIA® VL805 USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE | <!--Opinion-->2013 64bit - Micro ATX Form Factor 24.4cm x 24.4cm - 4 x DDR3 DIMM sockets - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 760GM | <!--Chipset-->ATI 760G plus SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->HD3000 Use Vesa | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|P33 VT1705; P34, P21 and P23 (FX) MS7641 v3.0 ALC887, E51 ALC892}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Opinion-->P23 issues with audio ALC887 crackles thru earphones - |- | <!--Name-->Gigayte GA-MA770T-UD3P (rev. 3.1) | <!--Chipset-->amd 770 with sb710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with Realtek ALC888/892 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111d/e | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASRock 890FX Deluxe5 Extreme3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 890FX + AMD SB850 or SB950 (Extreme3) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{N/A}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC892}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8111E rtl8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M5A97 R2.0 EVO | <!--Chipset-->AMD 970 and SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Asmedia SATA Controller | <!--Gfx-->n/a | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC887 (LE), ALC887 (Regular), ALC892 (EVO) codec | <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 and 2 Asmedia USB3.0 Controller | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111F | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 970 with SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio--> ALC??? (rev. 1.0/1.1), ALC887 (rev1.2), VIA VT2021 codec (rev 1.3 1.4 and rev3.0) | <!--USB-->{{yes|AMD USB2 but not Etron EJ168 chip (USB3)}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE 8111E (all revisions), | <!--Opinion-->2015 64bit - ATX Form Factor 30.5cm x 22.4cm - 4 x 1.5V DDR3 DIMM sockets - |- | <!--Name-->MSI 970 Gaming | <!--Chipset-->970FX SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC1150 Codec | <!--USB-->6 usb2 with 2 USB3 VIA VL806 Chipset | <!--Ethernet-->Killer E2205 Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M5A99X EVO | <!--Chipset-->990X - RD980 with SB920 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->2 pci-e gen ? | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC892 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 realtek 8111e | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 990 with SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC889 (rev 1.x, 3.0, 3.1), | <!--USB-->{{yes|AMD USB2 not 2 x Etron EJ168 chips for USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->realtek rtl8169 8111e | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - ATX Form Factor; 30.5cm x 24.4cm - 4 ddr3 slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====AMD Fusion (2011/14)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | 1.2GHz single Bobcat Fusion C30 + Hudson M1 | ACPI | IDE | SATA | AMD 6250 | Audio | USB | Ethernet | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | Asus E35M1-M PRO uATX | 1.6GHz 18W AMD Fusion E-350 dual core + Hudson M1 | ACPI | {{N/A}} | SATA | AMD 6310 - no HD driver yet | ALC887 VD2 | USB | RTL8111E | 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - EFI bios [http://www.anandtech.com/show/4023/the-brazos-performance-preview-amd-e350-benchmarked] |- | Asus E35M1-I Deluxe miniITX | 1.6GHz dual AMD Fusion E350 + Hudson M1 + DDR3 | ACPI | {{N/A}} | SATA | AMD 6310 - no HD driver yet | ALC892 | USB | Realtek 8111E | 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - no support for Atheros AR5008 on a Mini PCI-E |- | ASRock E350M1 / USB3 (also version with USB3.0 added) | 1.6GHz dual AMD Fusion E350 + Hudson M1 | ACPI | {{N/A}} | SATA - 4 SATA3 | {{Maybe|AMD 6310 - use vesa with hdmi and dvi}} | {{Yes|Audio ALC892 playback but no HDMI output}} | USB - 4 USB2.0 and 2 USB3.0 | {{Yes|rtl8169 for Realtek 8111E 8411 ethernet chipset}} | 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-E350N-USB3 mini-ITX | <!--Chipset--> Hudson M1 FCH | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 SATA3 | <!--Gfx--> plus HDMI, DVI | <!--Audio-->ALC892 | <!--USB-->2 NEC USB3.0 with 4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-E350N Win8 V1.0 | <!--Chipset-->Hudson M1 FCH A45 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 SATA3 | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Use VESA - AMD 6310 plus HDMI, DVI}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC887 playback through headphones but not thru hdmi}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|4 USB2.0 needs more testing}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8111 8168B}} | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - works well but need to test with sata hard disk |- | <!--Name-->MSI E350IA-E45 | <!--Chipset-->e-350 + Hudson M1 + DDR3 | <!--ACPI-->no support | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 Sata3 ports | <!--Gfx-->AMD 6310 gpu | <!--Audio-->ALC HDA | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 and 2 USB3.0 through NEC 720200 chipset | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS E45M1-M PRO | <!--Chipset-->E450 APU with Hudson M1 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS E45M1-I Deluxe | <!--Chipset-->E-450 together | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket FM1 (2011/13)===== On board Graphic on CPU - HD6410D, HD6530D, HD6550D, {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS F1A55-M LE | <!--Chipset--> with AMD A55 FCH (Hudson D2) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->6 x SATA 3Gbit/s port(s), blue Support Raid 0, 1, 10, JBOD | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 2.0 slot or Integrated AMD Radeon™ HD 6000 in Llano APU | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC887 Audio CODEC | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 ports | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E rtl8169 | <!--Opinion-->2012 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - A-Series/E2- Series APUs up to 4 cores - 2 x DIMM, Max. 32GB, DDR3 2250(O.C.)/1866/1600/1333/1066 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory Dual Channel Memory Architecture - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket FM2 White Socket (2012/13)===== Onboard Gfx on CPU - HD6570, HD7480D, HD7540D, {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A75 A85X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket FM2 Plus Black socket (2013/15)===== Onboard Gfx on CPU - HD6570, HD7480D, HD7540D, {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A88X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket AM1 FS1b socket (2014/1x)===== 5350 4 core Jaguar cores 2GHz with Integrated AMD Radeon R Series Graphics in the APU Kabini [Radeon HD 8400] Later Beema APU with 2/4 core Puma (slightly updated Jaguar) cores, GCN graphics and a compute capable Radeon core, along with a brand new AMD security processor and FT3 BGA packaging (probably best avoided for long term survival). {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS AM1I-A | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio Realtek® ALC887-VD | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111GR 8168 | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit may support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->MSI AM1I | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111G | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI AM1M | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111G | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->BGA FT3 AM1x |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket AM4 FM3 Summit Ridge Zen Zen+ (2016/22)===== Jim Keller’s group designed x86 Zen CPU - new and covering the same AM4 platform/socket for desktop Zen will also shift from Bulldozer’s Clustered Multithreading (CMT) to Simultaneous Multithreading (SMT, aka Intel’s Hyperthreading). CMT is the basis for Bulldozer’s unusual combination of multiple integer cores sharing a single FPU within a module, so the move to SMT is a more “traditional” design for improving resource usage Trusted Platform Module, or fTPM, that Windows 11 requires. Ryzen processors using a firmware TPM are causing stutters, even when doing mundane tasks. To enable TPM 2.0 on your AMD system please follow the steps below. <pre> Power on system and press DEL or F2 to get into the BIOS. Navigate to Advanced\CPU Configuration. Enable AMD fTPM switch. Press F10 to save changes. </pre> {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero | <!--Chipset-->X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 (1x16 or 2x8) | <!--Audio-->SupremeFX audio features an S1220 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel I211 | <!--Opinion-->Ryzen 7 1800X 1700X |- | <!--Name-->Biostar X370gtn Itx Am4 | <!--Chipset-->AMD X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek Dragon LAN RTL8118AS | <!--Opinion--> 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-AX370 K7 | <!--Chipset--> X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with 2 x Realtek® ALC1220 codec 0x10EC, 0x0295 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->1 intel and 1 E2500 | <!--Opinion--> 4 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->MSI Xpower Gaming Titanium | <!--Chipset--> X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->8-channel Realtek 1220 Codec 0x10EC, 0x0295 | <!--USB-->ASMedia® ASM2142 and amd cpu | <!--Ethernet-->1 x Intel® I211AT Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion--> 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Prime B350 Plus ATX | <!--Chipset-->B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 mode) | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC887 8-Channel | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->Ryzen 5 1600x 1600 1500X 1400 - 4 x DIMM Max 64GB, DDR4 up to 2666MHz ECC and non-ECC Memory - ATX 12 inch x 9.35 inch ( 30.5 cm x 23.7 cm ) - 2 pci |- | <!--Name-->Asus PRIME B350M-A/CSM Micro ATX | <!--Chipset-->AMD B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek LAN | <!--Opinion-->Ryzen 3 1300x 1200 1100 |- | <!--Name-->AsRock Pro4 AB350 | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe 3.0 x16, 4 PCIe 2.0 x1 | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->2017 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac | <!--Chipset--> B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic Mortar | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 (x16 mode) | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->white and grey colours - 2 pci-e and 2 pci slots - m.2 in middle - atx 12 in by 9.6 in and matx versions - |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue M-ATX B350M-TI | <!--Chipset-->B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue B350I-Plus ITX | <!--Chipset-->B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock A320M-ITX MINI ITX Rev1.0 Rev2 Rev2.1 | <!--Chipset-->A320 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2018 |- | <!--Name-->Asus PRIME A320M-C R2.0 rev1.1 A320M-K | <!--Chipset-->A320 A/B300 SFF | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HD audio with Realtek ALC887 alc897 CODEC | <!--USB-->2 usb 3.1 gen 1 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2019 64bit - 3rd/2nd/1st Gen AMD Ryzen™ / 2nd and 1st Gen AMD Ryzen™ with Radeon™ Vega |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI A320M-A PRO MicroATX | <!--Chipset-->AMD A320 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio Realtek® ALC892 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 8111H | <!--Opinion-->2019 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG X399 Zenith Extreme | <!--Chipset-->AMD X399 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> supremefx s1220 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Opinion-->Threadripper 1950X 1920X 1900X TR4 skt |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->AsRock Fatality X470 Gaming K4 mATX | <!--Chipset-->X470 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->nvme | <!--Gfx-->pci-e rebar possible | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asrock Fatal1ty X470 Gaming-ITXac AMD AM4 | <!--Chipset-->AMD X470 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS ROG STRIX X470-I GAMING AM4 ITX Motherboard | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus B450-I Gaming | <!--Chipset-->AMD B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->high VRM temps - raven ridge 14nm+ like 2200G 2400G |- | <!--Name-->AsRock B450 Gaming K4 | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> alc892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> 4 ddr4 slots - low VRM thermals 3900x 3950x |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte B450 I Aorus Pro Wifi | <!--Chipset-->AMD B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 nvme pcie3 with 4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pcie | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek® ALC1220-VB codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Opinion-->very high vrm temps |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue B450i Gaming ITX | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata3 - none nvme | <!--Gfx-->pcie3 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->1G | <!--Opinion-->2021 64 2nd 3rd AMD - 2 ddr4 dimm slots |- | <!--Name-->MSI b450 tomahawk max | <!--Chipset--> b450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{n/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HD audio with Realtek® ALC892 Codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111H | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450 Pro Carbon | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> ALC codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450-A PRO | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111h | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450I GAMING Plus AC ITX | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2019 - 2nd and 3rd gen AMD - 2 ddr4 slots - |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450 GAMING PLUS MAX | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek® ALC892/ALC897 Codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111H | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MAXSUN AMD Challenger B450M M-ATX (aka Soyo) | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASRock X570 PHANTOM GAMING-ITX/TB3 Mini ITX AM4 | <!--Chipset-->X570 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->nvme | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 4.0 | <!--Audio--> ALC1200 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero | <!--Chipset-->AMD X570 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> SupremeFX7.1 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel® I211-AT and Realtek® RTL8125-CG 2.5G LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> alc1220 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Strix B550-i AM4 ITX Motherboard | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 - |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue Jingyue B550i Gaming itx | <!--Chipset-->B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->3 with 1 nvme | <!--Gfx-->1 pci-e 4 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio alc | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->1G | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit max of Ryzen 5500 (c t), 5600, 5600g (6c12t) - 2 ddr4 |- | <!--Name-->Asrock B550 PHANTOM GAMING ITX/AX | <!--Chipset-->AMD B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> alc1220 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel 2.5G | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->AsRock B550M-ITX/ac | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> Realtek ALC887/897 Audio Codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion-->2022 - 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING | <!--Chipset-->B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->PCIe Gen4 x4 & SATA3 | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 4 | <!--Audio--> supremefx S1220A | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel® I225-V 2.5Gb | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte AMD B550I AORUS PRO AX Mini-ITX rev 1.0 | <!--Chipset-->AMD B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme pci-e3 with 4 sata3 | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC1220-VB codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 2.5GbE LAN | <!--Opinion-->2021 2 x DDR4 DIMM sockets 1Rx8/2Rx8/1Rx16 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX | <!--Chipset-->B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 DP and hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC1200 | <!--USB-->USB3 USB 3.2 Gen1 Type-C | <!--Ethernet-->2.5GbE LAN | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit- finer tuning than A520's - AMD Ryzen 5000 Series/ 3rd Gen Ryzen and 3rd Gen Ryzen with Radeon Graphics CPU - Dual Channel ECC/ Non-ECC Unbuffered DDR4, 4 DIMMs - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX | <!--Chipset--> B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio ALC887 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->realtek rtl8118 | <!--Opinion-->2021 64bit - 4 ddr4 dimms - |- | <!--Name-->MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX | <!--Chipset--> B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC892 | <!--USB-->USB 3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111H | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Processors - 4 dimm ddr4 - |- | <!--Name-->MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX | <!--Chipset--> B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe 1 x M.2, Socket 3, M Key (up to Type 22110) and 1 x M.2, Socket 3, M Key (Type 2242/2260/2280) | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 with dp and hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDaudio ALC1200 | <!--USB-->USB3 1 x USB 3.1 Type-C and 1 x USB 3.1 Type-A | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8125B and Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - 4 Dimm slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue A520M-H mATX | <!--Chipset-->A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> old bios with random issues with APU ryzens - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte A520M S2H mATX | <!--Chipset-->AMD A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 1GbE | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit Zen3 65W and up - 2 ddr4 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte A520I AC mITX mini-itx | <!--Chipset-->AMD A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit Zen3 65W and up 5600G (6c12t) or 5700G (8c16t) - 2 ddr4 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->MSI A520M-A PRO mATX | <!--Chipset-->A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe 1 x M.2, Socket 3, M Key (Type 2242/2260/2280) | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC892 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111H | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - 2 ddr4 dimm slots - 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Desktop and AMD Ryzen 4000 G-Series CPU |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} ===== (Socket AM5 LGA1718 Zen4 2022/2x)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asrock Steel Legend | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e rnda2 | <!--Audio-->HD audio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - ddr5 ecc (10 chip) and non-ecc (8 chips) 64Gb @ 6000Mhz or 128GB @ 4800Mhz - |- | <!--Name-->Asrock TaiChi | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e rnda2 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio | <!--USB-->USB4 with Thunderbolt 4 equivalent | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek killer E3000 2.5GbE}} | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - ddr5 ecc (10 chip) and non-ecc (8 chips) |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Crosshair Hero | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe rnda2 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->rnda3 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit 7950x3d 120W, 7900 7800 7600 90W |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->rnda3 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus B650E-I | <!--Chipset-->B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 5 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2023 - better sound with an actual AMP, PCIe 5, USB-C display outs - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x650 B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x650 B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x650 B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MAXSUN AMD Challenger B650M WIFI M-ATX (aka Soyo) | <!--Chipset-->B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI b650i mini itx | <!--Chipset-->B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 4 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->2023 - front panel connectors at the back of the board - dead rear nvme slot and a drained CMOS battery as the CMOS button being pressed during shipping - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M Zen4 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> Zen5 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> Zen6 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} ===== (Zen? AM? 203x/3x)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} ====Intel==== [[#top|...to the top]] =====Socket 370 (2000/2)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Intel D815EEA | <!--Chipset-->866Mhz P3 and i815 chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia AGPx8 6200LE added}} | <!--Audio-->{{N/A}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|2 USB1.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested AspireOS 1.7, simple basic board with useful 5 PCI slots |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket 478 (2002/4)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->[http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://detail.zol.com.cn/motherboard/index46381.shtml&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dc.865pe.l%2Bmotherboard%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DsZB%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official Colorful Technology C.865PE-L Silver Fighter Warrior V2.3] | <!--Chipset-->865PE | <!--ACPI-->{{dunno| }} | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|tested with CDROM}} | <!--SATA-->{{dunno| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|AGP slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|ALC650 AC97}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 1.1 and 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8100 8139}} | <!--Opinion-->Still testing with NB (Nightly Build) May 2013 |- | <!--Name-->Intel 845 | <!--Chipset-->865P | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{No|intel 800}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 AD1985}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|e1000}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested ICAROS 1.3 |- | <!--Name-->Intel 845 | <!--Chipset-->865GC | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{No|intel 865 Extreme Graphics 2}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 AD1985}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|e1000}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested ICAROS 1.3 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA775 s775 (2005/8)===== an industry standard DDR2 module could in theory contain fallback JEDEC, intel XMP and AMD EPP configuration data Intel PC CL5 ram modules but an "AMD" CL5 ram module the BIOS cannot read the AMD EPP info on the SPD (Serial Presence Detect) but can recognize the CL5 timing info in the JEDEC data table. PC BIOS auto configures for the AMD ram module and boots normally. an AMD PC CL6 ram modules but an "INTEL" CL6 ram module the BIOS cannot read the INTEL XMP info on the SPD but can recognize the CL6 timing info in JEDEC data table. PC BIOS auto configures for the AMD ram module and boots normally. an INTEL PC needs CL6 ram modules but have an "AMD" CL4 ram module. INTEL BIOS cannot read the AMD EPP info on the SPD but can recognize the CL4 timing info in JEDEC data table. PC BIOS recognizes module timings as incompatible an refuses to boot. entirely separate issue if the RAM module timing specs are incompatible.(i.e. CL4 RAM in a "CL6 only" PC) {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Abit AG8 | <!--Chipset-->P915 + ICH6R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports SATA1 | <!--Gfx-->1 PCIe x16 Slot | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC658 AC97 | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8110S-32 | <!--Opinion-->2004 32bit - Firewire TI 4200R7T no |- | <!--Name-->MSI 915 Neo2 | <!--Chipset-->P915 + ICH6R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports SATA1 | <!--Gfx-->1 PCIe x16 Slot | <!--Audio-->CMI 9880L HD Audio | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcomm BCM5751 PCIe}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VIA VT6306 no |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5GC P5GC-MX | <!--Chipset-->P945GC Lakeport-GC + ICH7R northbridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 3.0 Gbit/s ports | <!--Gfx-->1 PCIe 1.1 slot | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC662 codec | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 usb2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|atheros L2}} | <!--Opinion-->2005 32bit - 3 pci slots - 4 x 240-pin DIMM Sockets max. 4GB DDR2 667/533 non-ECC - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Foxconn PC45CM-SA 45CM-S | <!--Chipset-->945GC with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 sata2 ports | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|pcie 1.0 slot with gma950 integrated}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with aLC883 codec playback}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|realtek 8139 8100sc}} | <!--Opinion-->2 dimm slots 667mhz max 4gb - can be found in Advent desktops - 2 pci-e and 2 pci - core 2 duo only e6xxx - Micro ATX (9.6” x 8.8”) - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-81945GM MFY-RH | <!--Chipset-->Intel® 945GM Express with ICH7M-DH | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA950 VGA15 and PCI-e 1.0 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC880 codec playback only rear port}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 usb 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO1000PL 82573L Gigabit Ethernet}} | <!--Opinion-->2006 MoDT term “Mobile on DeskTop.”, low TDP CPUs to work on desktop form-factor motherboards. mATX Micro ATX 24.4cm x 24.4cm - 2 DDR2 dimm 1.8v slots with 4Gb max - will not boot if PCI2 slot occupied - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-945 GCM S2C | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662 (1.x)}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|8101E Rtl 8169 (1.x)}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA945-GCM S2L | <!--Chipset-->945GC with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCi-E slot | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD Audio with ALC662 codec 2/4/5.1-channel (1.x)}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8111c 8169 (1.x)}} | <!--Opinion-->2 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM 4GB DDR2 memory max - 2 PCI-e and 2 PCI - Micro ATX form factor; 24.4cm x 19.3cm - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 945P Neo-F rev 1.0 | <!--Chipset-->P945 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCie 1.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC662 HDA | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->8110SC (rtl8169) | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 945P Neo2-F rev 1.2 | <!--Chipset-->P945 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCie 1.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC850 AC97 | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->8110SC (rtl8169) | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-P31-DS3L | <!--Chipset-->P31 with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCI Express x16 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC888 codec | <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111B | <!--Opinion-->DDR2 800Mhz up to 4Gb 4 x 240 pin - 3 PCI - ATX 12.0" x 8.3" - |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5KPL-AM /PS | <!--Chipset-->G31 with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->4 xSATA 3 Gbit/s ports | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 1.1 with integrated Intel® GMA 3100 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA VT1708B with ALC662 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8102EL 100/10 LAN with Realtek RTL8111C Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion-->2 x 2 GB DDR2 Non-ECC,Un-buffered DIMMs with 2 PCI - Intel Graphics Media Accelerator - |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5KPL/EPU | <!--Chipset-->G31 with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Pci-e 1.0 slot | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8169 Realtek 8111C}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested - 4 240-pin DIMM, Max. 4 GB - 4 pci-e and 3 pci - ATX Form Factor 12 inch x 8.2 inch ( 30.5 cm x 20.8 cm ) - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G31M ES2L | <!--Chipset-->G31 plus ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 3100 2d}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC883 (1.x), ALC883/888B (2.x)}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|RTL8111C (1.x), Atheros 8131 (2.x)}} | <!--Opinion-->reduces DRAM capacity to 4GB |- | <!--Name-->ASRock G31M-S r1.0 G31M-GS | <!--Chipset-->G31 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|4 sata2}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GMA 3100 2d not 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{partial|rtl8169 RTL8111DL 8169 (for -GS) RTL8102EL (for -S)}} | <!--Opinion-->2007 64bit Core2 - 2 DDR2 800 max 8Gig AMI bios MicroATX - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock G31M-S r2.0 | <!--Chipset-->G31 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|4 sata2}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GMA 3100 2d not 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL 8111DL 8169}} | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit core2 - 2 DDR2 800 max 8Gig MicroATX |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/apac/eng/products/desktop/bdb/dg31pr/feature/index.htm Intel DG31PR] | <!--Chipset-->iG31 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|3100 but can use PCIe 1.1 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888 playback}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8111B Rtl 8169}} | <!--Opinion-->good support |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Intel G33 Express Chipset with ich9 southbridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Intel 3100 powervr tile based | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit - embedded on Core 2 Quad, Core 2 Duo, Pentium Dual-Core CPUS with Integrated GPU Intel GMA 3100 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS P5G41T-M LX | <!--Chipset-->G41 + ICH8 + DDR3 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|X4500 some 2d only)}} | <!--Audio-->ALC887 | <!--USB-->3 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros L1c AR8131}} | <!--Opinion-->reduces maximum supported memory ddr3 from 16 to 8GB 2 dimm slots non-EEC - demotes the PCIe controller mode from revision 2.0 (5.0GT/s) to revision 1.1 (2.5GT/s |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G41MT S2 | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->VT1708S (1.3), ALC887-VD2 (1.4), ALC887 (2.1), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Atheros AR8151 l1c (1.x 2.x), | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G41MT S2PT | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC887 (1.0), VIA (2.0), ALC887 (2.1) | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8111E (1.x), Atheros AR8151 l1c (2.1), | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G41MT D3 | <!--Chipset-->G41 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 Port | <!--SATA-->4 Ports | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|GMA X4500 2d only and pci-e 1.1 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888B}} | <!--USB-->4 ports + headers | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8111 D/E}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-P41T D3P | <!--Chipset-->G41 + ICH7 with Intel Core 2 Duo (E6xxx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4ports | <!--Gfx-->GMA X4500 2d | <!--Audio-->ALC888 889/892 | <!--USB-->4 ports | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8111C or D/E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Intel DG41AN Classic | <!--Chipset-->iG41 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx-->X4500 2d | <!--Audio-->ALC888S ALC888VC | <!--USB-->4 ports | <!--Ethernet-->8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->AsRock P5B-DE | <!--Chipset-->P965 + ICH8 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|works ide legacy}} |<!--Gfx-->{{Yes|with PCI-E 1.1 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio via VT1708S}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8169}} | <!--Opinion-->2006 works well |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5B SE | <!--Chipset-->965 intel | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{N/A}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio ALC662 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No| }} | <!--Opinion-->works well except ethernet |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5W DH Deluxe P5WDG2 WS PRO | <!--Chipset-->975X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->2 ports | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe x16 slots | <!--Audio-->ALC882 AND LATER ADI 1988B | <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8052 88E8053}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TI TSB43AB22A no |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Abit IP35 | <!--Chipset-->P35 Express + ICH9R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 ports | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC888 HDA | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->two RTL8110SC | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Texas TSB43 AB22A no |- | <!--Name-->MSI P35 Neo F FL MS-7630 rev 1 | <!--Chipset-->Intel P35 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 1.1 support | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC888 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->Base model of this range of P35 mobos |- | <!--Name-->GA-P35-DS3 | <!--Chipset-->P35 and ICH9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC889A codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111B | <!--Opinion-->2008 - 4 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets max 8 GB - |- | <!--Name-->GA-EP35-DS3 (rev. 2.1) | <!--Chipset-->Intel® P35 + ICH9 Chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{unk|}} | <!--SATA-->{{unk|4 }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{unk|Realtek ALC889A codec }} | <!--USB-->{{yes | }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8111B}} | <!--Opinion-->good |- | <!--Name-->Abit IX38 Quad GT | <!--Chipset-->X38 / ICH9R Chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCI-E 2.0 slot | <!--Audio--> HD Audio ALC888 | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL 8110SC 8169SC | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Texas TSB 43AB22A no |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte X38-DQ6 | <!--Chipset-->X38 / ICH9R Chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCI-E 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC889A HDA | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->twin 8111B 8169 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-EP45 DS3 (2008) | <!--Chipset-->P45 + ICH9 or ICH10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 x SATA 3Gbit/s (SATAII0, SATAII1, SATAII2, SATAII3, SATAII4, SATAII5) | <!--Gfx-->two PCI-E v2.0 x16 slots support splitting its 16 PCIe 2.0 lanes across two cards at x8 transfers | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC888 or ALC889A codec | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->2 x Realtek 8111C chips (10/100 /1000 Mbit) | <!--Opinion-->4 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets non-EEC |- | <!--Name-->MSI P45 Platinum (2008) | <!--Chipset-->P45 + ICH9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 sata2 ports | <!--Gfx-->two PCI-E x16 v2.0 slots | <!--Audio-->ALC888 HD Audio | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->G45 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->adds Intel’s GMA X4500HD graphics engine to P45 Express features | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->G43 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->GMA X4500 2d | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->removes HD video acceleration from the G45’s features |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5E Deluxe | <!--Chipset--> X48 with ICH9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ADI 1988B codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Marvell 88E8001 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->GigaByte GA-X48 DQ6 | <!--Chipset-->X48 plus ICH9R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->8 ports | <!--Gfx-->two PCI-E x16 v2.0 slots | <!--Audio-->ALC889A | <!--USB-->8 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8111B 8169 | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TSB43AB23 no - ICH9 pairs with Intel’s 3-series (X38, P35, etc.) chipsets, in addition to the X48 Express, but excluding the G35 Express |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte EP43-DS3L and Gigabyte GA-EP43-UD3L | <!--Chipset-->P43 with ICH10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 x SATA 3Gbit/s connectors | <!--Gfx-->1 x PCI Express x16 slot PCI Express 2.0 standard | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC888 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8111C | <!--Opinion-->4 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets - 4 pcie x1 - 2 pci - ATX Form Factor; 30.5cm x 21.0cm |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte 73-pvm-s2h rev.1.0 | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA GeForce 7100 nForce 630i | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|1 port}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|3 ports SATA2}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d GeForce 7100 (vga /hdmi/dvi), 1 PCIe x16 Slot }} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ALC889A MCP73}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|7 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL 8211B MCP73}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Not, tested with Icaros Desktop 2.0.3 MCP73 is a single chip solution in three different versions |- | <!--Name-->Nvidia 7150 630i | <!--Chipset-->intel based nForce 630i (MCP73) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|ide legacy}} | <!--GFX-->GF 7150 | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD AUDIO ALC883}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|ohci echi}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8201C}} | <!--Opinion-->being tested |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2.0 x16 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> the MCP73PV or the GeForce 7050/nForce 630i |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->the MCP73S or the GeForce7025/nForce 630i |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->the MCP73V or the GeForce 7025/nForce 610i |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Atom SOC (2008/2x)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->D945CLF | <!--Chipset-->N230 single core | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|GMA945}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662}} Skt 441 | <!--USB-->{{yes|uhci and ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} | <!--Opinion-->works very well |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.clusteruk.com iMica D945GCKF2 mobo] | <!--Chipset-->Intel Atom N330 Dual Core | <!--ACPI-->wip | <!--IDE-->{{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|gma}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD AUDIO}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|uhci ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->D945GSEJT + Morex T1610 | <!--Chipset-->Atom 230 with 945GSE | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|GMA900 vga but issues with DVI output}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio with ALC662 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169 8111DL}} | <!--Opinion-->small size, runs off 12V |- | <!--Name-->ASUS AT3N7A-I | <!--Chipset-->Atom N330 Nvidia ION | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|3 ports legacy IDE}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|nouveau cube cube 2 45 quake 3 }} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with VIA 1708S codec playback}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169 device}} | <!--Opinion--><ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAiJpvu73iw</ref> good but can freeze randomly at times |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->D410PT 45nm pinetrail | <!--Chipset-->D410 and NM10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|ide legacy}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GMA3150}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC262 or ALC66x odd clicks}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8111DL}} | <!--Opinion-->some support |- | <!--Name-->45nm pinetrail | <!--Chipset-->D510 and NM10 + GMA3150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->GMA3150 | <!--Audio-->ALC888B or ALC66x | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8111DL | <!--Opinion-->some support |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-D525TUD (rev. 1.0 1.2 1.5) | <!--Chipset-->D525 NM10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->gma 3150 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111f | <!--Opinion-->2012 64 - 2 ddr3 dimm slots max 8g - Mini-ITX Form Factor; 17.0cm x 17.0cm - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- |} =====Socket 1366 (2009/10)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P6T DELUXE | <!--Chipset-->x58 + ICH10 and Intel 1st gen. (Nehalem/Lynnfield) Core i7 (8xx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|1 port}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe x16 (r2.0) slots | <!--Audio-->ADI AD2000B HD Audio | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Marvell 88E8056 Gigabit}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VIA VT6308 no |- | <!--Name-->gigabyte ex58 ds | <!--Chipset--> x58 + ICH10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111D rtl8169 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket 1156 (2010)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire M3910 | <!--Chipset-->i3 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA intel HD}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|HDAudio with Realtek ALC}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk| Realtek}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2H | <!--Chipset-->H55 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe slot | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|ALCxxx playback}} ALC888B (Rev1.x) | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8111D}} (Rev 1.x) | <!--Opinion-->Tested but no support for WLAN Realtek 8188su |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI H55M-E33 v1.0 | <!--Chipset-->E7636 M7636 H55 chipset so older i3/i5/i7 system | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio ALC889}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|PCI-E Realtek 8111DL}} | <!--Opinion-->Works well |- | <!--Name-->Asus P7P55D | <!--Chipset-->P55 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{unk| }} | <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{maybe | via codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe |rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111B/C RTL8112L }} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA 1155 H2 (2010/13)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS P8H61-I LX R2.0 | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->1 pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111f | <!--Opinion-->2013 - up to ivybridge cpus - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->Asus P8H61-I/RM/SI mini-itx | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2012 64 up to i3-2010 - OEM board from an RM machine but not ivybridge as the Asus BIOS isn't compatible with these, 0909 hacked one might work - |- | <!--Name-->asus p8h61-i lx r2.0/rm/si mini itx | <!--Chipset-->h61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2.0 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with VIA codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111e | <!--Opinion-->2012 sandy and ivy - oem from rm machine 2 x 240-Pin DDR3 DIMM sockets max DDR3 1333MHz - |- | <!--Name-->‎Bewinner 63q9c7omvs V301 ITX | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata with nvme | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 4 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8106E 100M Network Card | <!--Opinion-->2022 64 |- | <!--Name-->Biostar H61 H61MHV2 H61MHV3 Ver. 7.0 | <!--Chipset-->H61 with Intel Pentium G 2xxx series CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC662 later ALC897 | <!--USB-->4 usb2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->2014 - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H61M-D2-B3 | <!--Chipset-->H61 + Sandybridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC889 | <!--USB-->2 ports | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H61MA-D3V | <!--Chipset-->H61 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Maybe No Realtek ALC887 (Rev 2.0) ALC887 (Rev2.1) | <!--USB-->2 ports | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->GA-H61M-S2PV | <!--Chipset-->H61 with 2400k 2500k 2600k 2700k | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC887 (rev 1.0 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3) | <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Rtl811E (1.0) 8151 (2.0) Rtl8111F (2.1 2.2 2.3) | <!--Opinion-->Micro ATX Form Factor; 24.4cm x 20cm with 2 pci-e and 2 pci - |- | <!--Name-->Intel Classic Series DH61CR Desktop | <!--Chipset-->H61 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC892 | <!--USB-->4 ports | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82579V}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI H61M-P20 (G3) MS-7788 *retail MSI board *OEM Advent, etc | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|four SATAII ports}} | <!--Gfx-->1 PCI Express gen3 (retail) gen2 (oem) x16 slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8105E 100M Network Card}} | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - 2 ddr3 slots - 22.6cm(L) x 17.3cm(W) M-ATX Form Factor - BIOS - [https://www.arosworld.org/infusions/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=1149&rowstart=140&pid=6009#post_6007 works well], |- | <!--Name-->MSI H61I-E35 (B3) MS-7677 Ver.1.2 | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2d for hdmi}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|https://www.arosworld.org/infusions/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=1149&rowstart=140&pid=5861#post_5861 works}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P8H67-M | <!--Chipset-->H67 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata3 - 4 sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC887 | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P8Z68-V LX | <!--Chipset-->Z68 + Intel 2nd generation (Sandy Bridge) Core i7 (2xxx) CPU and possibly ivybridgev | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|2 sata3 - 4 sata2}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio Intel HD with ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 USB3.0 - 4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek® 8111E}} | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit SSE 4.1 and AVX - EFI bios - 4 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 (B3) | <!--Chipset-->Z68 + Ivybridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata3 - 4 sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC889 | <!--USB-->2 USB3.0 - 4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->H77 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H77-D3H 1.0 1.1 | <!--Chipset-->H77 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata 3.0 | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio VIA VT2021 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros GbE LAN chip}} | <!--Opinion-->2013 64bit i5 3550 7 3770 - 4 DDR3 slots - 2 full pci-e 2 pci slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA Z77 D3H with i3 3225 dual | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio VIA VT2021 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros GbE LAN chip}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA 1150 H3 (2013/2016)===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H87N-WIFI mITX | <!--Chipset-->H87 and Intel 4th generation (Haswell) Core i5 (4xxx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel Atheros | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus H81M-C H81M-P-SI | <!--Chipset-->H81 with 4th generation (Haswell) Core i7 (4xxx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2x3g 2x6g | <!--Gfx-->pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->hdaudio alc887 vd | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8111gr | <!--Opinion-->skt 1150 - 2 ddr3 max 16g - mini atx - |- | <!--Name-->Asus H81T | <!--Chipset-->H81 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->HD4000 igpu only | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC887-VD | <!--USB-->Intel USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 realtek 8111G | <!--Opinion-->2013 64bit intel 4th gen mini itx - external dc brick with 19v rare barrel pin 7.4MM x 5.0MM - 2 ddr3 laptop sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H81M-S2V | <!--Chipset-->H81 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC887 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® GbE LAN chip | <!--Opinion-->2014 64bit up to i7 4790K - 2 DDR3 slots - |- | <!--Name-->GA-H81M-D3V (rev. 1.0) | <!--Chipset-->H81 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|2 sata2 2 sata3 }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{unk| HDAudio Realtek® ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|intel and VIA® VL805}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|rtl8169 Realtek }} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Z87-K | <!--Chipset-->Z87 with 4th generation (Haswell) Core i7 4c8t i5 4c4t CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H | <!--Chipset-->Z87 Express | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with Realtek® ALC898 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA H97M D3H r1.0 r1.1 with i3 4360 or 4370 dual | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Z97 A with i7 4790K | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->750, 960, 970 and 980 nvidia GTX cards | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan ethernet | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA Z97X UD3H rev1.0 1.1 1.2 | <!--Chipset-->Z97 with i5 4690K | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with ALC1150 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI GAMING 5 Z97 | <!--Chipset-->Z97 with 4th generation (Haswell) Core i7 4c8t CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS Q87M-E | <!--Chipset-->Q87 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2014 64bit - 4 DDR3 slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->H99 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA 1151 Socket H4 (2015/2018)===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->Skylake CPUs have TPM 2.0 imbedded |- | <!--Name-->Asus H110 Plus H110M-A/DP | <!--Chipset--> with 6th Gen Core and 7th with bios update | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Sunrise Point-H SATA [AHCI mode] [8086 a102] | <!--Gfx-->{{No|Skylake Integrated HD Graphics use PIC-E slot}} | <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC887 Audio CODEC | <!--USB-->Sunrise Point-H USB 3.0 xHCI [8086: a12f] no usb2.0 fallback | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8111GR or 8111H RTL8111 8168 8411}} | <!--Opinion-->ATX with 3 pci-e and 2 DDR4 slots - uatx version smaller - turn off TLSF as it was causing AHI driver to corrupt. Turned off ACPI for errors but works fine once booted - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS H110M-R M-ATX | <!--Chipset-->H110 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 x SATA 6Gb/s | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio Realtek® ALC887 codec | <!--USB-->Intel USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->2016 64bit 6th Gen Skylake Core™ i7/Core™ 6950X i7-6970HQ i7-6700K 4c8t hyperthreading, i5/Core™ i5-6600K 4c4t i3/Pentium® / Celeron® - 2 DDR4 DIMMS Max 32GB 2133MHz - 1 full pci-e and 2 pci-e 1 - |- | <!--Name-->Asus H110T | <!--Chipset-->H110 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->intel igpu only | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Dual Intel/Realtek GbE languard | <!--Opinion-->2016 - mini itx 12v / 19v laptop type rare barrel pin 7.4MM x 5.0MM - 2 sodimm ddr4 slots - no pci-e slot - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2H MATX Rev1.0 | <!--Chipset-->H110 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC887 codec | <!--USB-->2 (USB 3.1 Gen 1) ports with 4 us2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® GbE LAN | <!--Opinion--> 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->Msi H110M-PRO-VH | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 x SATA 6Gb/s | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 | <!--Audio--> Realtek® ALC887 Codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111h | <!--Opinion--> 6th gen intel - 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus H170 Pro Gaming | <!--Chipset-->H170 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->Asmedia USB3.1/3.0 | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI Z170A TOMAHAWK | <!--Chipset-->Z170 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sara, 1 x 2280 Key M(PCIe Gen3 x4/SATA), 1 x 2230 Key E(Wi-Fi) | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan | <!--Opinion-->2016 64bit up to i7 7700k - 2 DDR4 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->GIGABYTE GA-B250M-DS3H HD3P D3H D2V | <!--Chipset-->B250 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2018 coffee lake intel 8th gen |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus | <!--Chipset--> with Kaby Lake X Intel 7th Gen | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> up to 16 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus | <!--Chipset--> Z390 with Kaby Lake X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> up to 16 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> Q370M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> H370M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> B360M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Rampage | <!--Chipset-->x299 with i9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> - up to 24 to 44 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte | <!--Chipset--X299 > | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket LGA 1200 (2020/2022)===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->MSI H510M-A PRO (MS-7D22) | <!--Chipset--> with 10th gen Comet Lake X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2021 64bit - up to 16 pcie lanes rebar possible |- | <!--Name-->Asus PRIME H410M-E Asrock H470M-HDV/M.2 | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus | <!--Chipset--> with 11th gen Rocket Lake X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> up to 16 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket LGA 1700 (2023/ )===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Alder Lake / 14th gen Raptor Lake | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2021 2022 64bit - QoS work to 2 level cpus, P down to E cores - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Meteor Lake / 15th gen Arrow Lake | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2023 2024 64bit 10nm - 3 level cpus, Low Power Island (SOC tile) to E onto P cores - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Lunar lake | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2025 64bit 7nm - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} ===Chromebooks=== For most (EOL) cromebooks, the recommended UEFI path forward is to: *put the device into Developer Mode *disable firmware write protection *flash MrChromebox's UEFI Full ROM firmware *install ChromeOS Flex, Linux, etc See [https://mrchromebox.tech/#home MrChrome], [https://mrchromebox.tech MrChrome] and the [https://www.reddit.com/r/chrultrabook/ chrultrabook subreddit] for more info ChromeOS has several different boot modes, which are important to understand in the context of modifying your device to run an alternate OS: *Normal/Verified Boot Mode Can only boot Google-signed ChromeOS images Full verification of firmware and OS kernel No root access to the system, no ability to run Linux or boot other OSes Automatically enters Recovery Mode if any step of Verified Boot fails Default / out-of-the-box setting for all ChromeOS devices *Recovery Mode User presented with Recovery Mode boot screen (white screen with 'ChromeOS is missing or damaged') Boots only USB/SD with signed Google recovery image Automatically entered when Verified Boot Mode fails Can be manually invoked: On Chromebooks, via keystroke: [ESC+Refresh+Power] On Chromeboxes, by pressing a physical recovery button at power-on On Convertibles/Tablets, by holding the Power, Vol+, and Vol- buttons for 10s and then release Allows for transition from Verified Boot Mode to Developer Mode On Chromebooks/Chromeboxes, via keystroke: [CTRL+D] On Convertibles/Tablets, via button press: Vol+/Vol- simultaneously Booting recovery media on USB/SD will repartition/reformat internal storage and reload ChromeOS Note: The ChromeOS recovery process does not reset the firmware boot flags (GBB Flags), so if those are changed from the default, they will still need to be reset for factory default post-recovery. *Developer Mode "Jailbreak" mode built-in to every ChromeOS device Loosened security restrictions, allows root/shell access, ability to run Linux via crouton Verified Boot (signature checking) disabled by default, but can be re-enabled Enabled via [CTRL+D] on the Recovery Mode boot screen Boots to the developer mode boot screen (white screen with 'OS verification is off' text), The user can select via keystroke <pre> ChromeOS (in developer mode) on internal storage ( [CTRL+D] ) ChromeOS/ChromiumOS on USB ( [CTRL+U] ) Legacy Boot Mode ( [CTRL+L] ) </pre> Boot screen displays the ChromeOS device/board name in the hardware ID string (eg, PANTHER F5U-C92, which is useful to know in the context of device recovery, firmware support, or in determining what steps are required to install a given alternate OS on the device. *Legacy Boot Mode Unsupported method for booting alternate OSes (Linux, Windows) via the SeaBIOS RW_LEGACY firmware Accessed via [CTRL+L] on the developer mode boot screen Requires explicit enabling in Developer Mode via command line: sudo crossystem dev_boot_legacy=1 Most ChromeOS devices require a RW_LEGACY firmware update first Boots to the (black) SeaBIOS splash screen; if multiple boot devices are available, prompt shows the boot menu Note: If you hear two beeps after pressing [CTRL+L], then either your device doesn't have a valid Legacy Boot Mode / RW_LEGACY firmware installed, or legacy boot capability has not been been enabled via crossystem. https://www.howtogeek.com/278953/how-to-install-windows-on-a-chromebook/ Chromebooks don’t officially support other OSs. You normally can’t even install as Chromebooks ship with a special type of BIOS designed for Chrome OS. But there are ways to install, if you’re willing to get your hands dirty and potentially ruin everything [https://mrchromebox.tech/#devices Firmware Compatibility] [https://wiki.galliumos.org/Hardware_Compatibility Here is the list of hardware that the GalliumOS supports and information on getting Gallium OS on to those devices] Development on GalliumOS has been discontinued, and for most users, GalliumOS is not the best option for running Linux due to lack of hardware support or a kernel that's out of date and lacking important security fixes. Meet Eupnea and Depthboot, the successors to Galliumos and Breath [https://eupnea-linux.github.io This is the bleeding edge] Most older Chromebooks need the write-protect screw removed in order to install MrChromebox's firmware that allows you to install other operating systems. Most newer Chromebooks don't work in the same way as there is no write-protect screw on them. Very rough guide to '''total''' (i.e. all cores / threads) processor performance (AROS usually uses only the [https://gmplib.org/gmpbench one core]) [[#top|...to the top]] <pre> 060000 AMD Ryzen 9 7900X (AM5 170W) 056000 AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 055000 AMD Ryzen 9 5900X3D 053000 AMD Ryzen 9 5900X (AM4 105W), AMD Ryzen 9 3950X (105W), 049000 AMD Ryzen 9 PRO 7940HS (FP8 65W) 048000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 047000 AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 7840HS (FP7 65W), AMD Ryzen 7 8840HS, AMD Ryzen Z2 Extreme, 045000 AMD Ryzen 9 6900HX, Intel Core i7-12800H 044000 AMD Ryzen 7 5700G (AM4 ), AMD Ryzen 9 6900HS, 043000 Intel Core i5-13500H, AMD Ryzen 5 5600X3D (AM4 95W), AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 5750GE (AM4 35W) 042000 AMD Ryzen 7 5700GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen Z1 Extreme (top TDP), AMD Ryzen 5 8600G, 041500 AMD Ryzen 9 5900HS, Intel Core i7-12700T, AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS (8c16t 45W), AMD 8840U, 041000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800H (FP6 45W), AMD Ryzen 5 5600 (65W), 040000 AMD Ryzen 7 6800U, Intel Core i5-12490F, Intel Core i5-12500E, 039000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800HS (FP6 35W), AMD Ryzen 5 8500G 8600GE, AMD Ryzen Z2 (8c16t), 037000 AMD Ryzen 5 6600H, AMD Ryzen 3 7736U, AMD Ryzen 5 7640U, 036000 AMD Ryzen 5 3600X (95W), AMD Ryzen 5 5500 (AM4 65W), 035000 AMD Ryzen 5 6600U, Intel Core i5-11400F, AMD Ryzen 5 5600H, 034000 AMD Ryzen 7 7730U (FP6 15W 8c16t), AMD Ryzen 5 8540U, AMD Ryzen 4800H, AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 5650GE, 033000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800U (FP6 25W 8c16t), AMD Ryzen 7 4800HS, AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750GE, 032500 AMD Ryzen 7 2700X, AMD Ryzen 5 5600GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen Z1, AMD Ryzen 7 7840U, 032000 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650G (AM4 45W), AMD Ryzen 7 4800U, AMD Ryzen 7 5825U (FP6 8c16t 15W), 031500 AMD Ryzen 5 4500 (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (65W), AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750U (8c16t), 029000 AMD Ryzen 5 4600G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 1700X (AM4 95W), 028500 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 5675U, AMD Ryzen 7 1700 (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 7 2700 (65W), M3 Pro 12c, 028000 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 5650U, AMD Ryzen 5 4400G, AMD Ryzen 5 5560U (FP6 25W 6c12t Zen3), 027000 AMD Ryzen 5 5600U (FP6 25W 6c12t Zen3), 026500 AMD Ryzen 5 4600HS (FP6 35W 6c12t), Apple M1 Pro, AMD Ryzen 5 5625U (FP6 15W 6c12t), 026000 AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 5350GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen 5 2600 (65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3500X (AM4 95W), 024000 AMD Ryzen 5 1600X (95W), AMD Ryzen 3 5300GE, AMD Ryzen 7 5700U (FP6 25W 8c16t Zen2), 023000 AMD Ryzen 3 7330U (FP6 15W 4c8t), AMD Ryzen 7 4700U (FP6 25W 8c8t), AMD Ryzen V3C18I (? 15W), 022000 Intel Core i5-11300H, AMD Ryzen Z2 Go (4c8t), AMD Ryzen 5 5500U (FP6 25W 6c12t Zen2), 020500 AMD Ryzen 3 4300G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 3 5450U 5425U, AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650U (6c12t), 019500 Intel Core i5-1135G7, AMD Ryzen 5 5500H, AMD Ryzen 5 4600U (FP6 25W 6c), 019000 AMD Ryzen 5 3400G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 2500X, AMD Ryzen 5 7520U, 017750 AMD Ryzen 5 3400GE (AM4 35W), Intel Core i5-8400, AMD Ryzen 5 1500X (AM4 65W), 017500 Intel Core i7-6700K, Intel i5-10400, AMD Ryzen 5 4500U (FP6 25W 6c6t), AMD Ryzen 3 5400U, 017000 AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 4350GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen 3 5300U (FP6 25W 4c8t), 016500 AMD Ryzen 7 3750H, AMD Ryzen Embedded V1756B (FP5 45W), AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 4200GE, 016000 AMD Ryzen 5 2400G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3550H, Intel Core i7-6700T, 015000 AMD Ryzen 3 7320U, Ryzen 7 3700U, Ryzen 3200G (AM4 65W), Intel Core i7-8550U, 014000 AMD Ryzen 5 2400GE (AM4 35W), Intel Core i5-8500T, AMD Ryzen 2700U, AMD Ryzen 5 3550U, 013500 AMD Ryzen 5 3500U (FP5 15W 4c8t), AMD Ryzen 3 4300U, AMD Athlon Gold 4150GE, 013250 AMD Ryzen 3 3200GE (AM4 45W), AMD Ryzen 3 1300X (65W), AMD Ryzen 3 2200G, 013000 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 2500U (FP4 25W), AMD Ryzen Embedded V1605B (FP5 25W), 012500 AMD Ryzen 5 2500U (FP5 25W 4c8t), Intel Core i3-8300T, Intel Xeon X5680, 012300 Intel Core i7-8565U, Intel Core i5-8350U, Intel Core i7-8700, 012200 ARM Cortex-X3 Prime Snapdragon SD8G2 Gen2 4nm 64-bit Kryo CPU, 012000 AMD Ryzen 3 2200GE, AMD Ryzen 3 1200 (65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3500C, 011500 AMD Ryzen 3 3300U, Intel Core i3-8100T, Intel Core i5-8265U 010500 AMD Ryzen 3 2300U (FP5 25W 4c4t), 010300 Intel Core i7-3630QM, Intel Core i5-6600T, 010200 Intel Core i5-6440HQ, Intel Core i7-3610QM, 010000 AMD FX-8320E (AM3+ 125W 8c8t), Intel Core i5-7500T, Intel Core i5-4690, 008700 AMD FX-6130 (AM3+ 90W 6c6t), Intel Core i5-7400T, Intel Core i5-4590T, 008600 Intel Core i5-6500T, AMD Athlon 300GE (AM4, 35W), AMD Athlon Gold 7220U, 008500 AMD Ryzen R1606G (FP5 15W), AMD FX-6300 (AM3 65W 6c6t), Intel Core i5-2500K, 008000 AMD Ryzen 3 3200U, AMD Ryzen 3 3250U, Intel Alderlake ULX N100 / N95, i7-7600U, 007200 AMD Ryzen 3 2200U (FP5 25W 2c4t), Intel Core i3-7100T, Intel Twinlakes N150 N200, 006900 AMD Ryzen R1505G (FP5, 15W), Intel Core i7-6600U, Qualcomm Snapdragon 888 5G, 006500 Intel Core i7-6500U, AMD Athlon Gold 3150U, Intel Celeron N5105 (FCBGA1338, 15W), 006300 Intel Core i3-8130 (15W), Intel Celeron N5095 (FCBGA1338 15W), 006100 Intel Core i5-6300U, Intel Core i5-7200U, Snapdragon 7325, Intel i7-5500U, 006060 AMD A10-6800B APU, Intel Core i5-4570T, Intel Core i5-5257U, 006000 Intel Core i5-6200U, Intel Core i3-7130U, Qualcomm Snapdragon 888 4G, Intel i7-4500U, 005900 AMD Athlon Silver 3050U, Intel Xeon X5550, Intel Core i5-4300M, ARM A76 RK3588, 005800 Intel Celeron J4125 J4105 (FCBGA1090 15W), Intel Core i5-3470T, AMD A8-6600K APU, 005600 Intel Core i5-3360M, Intel Core i7-3520M, Intel Core i5-4210M, ARM A76 RK3588S, 005400 ARM Cortex-A78 MediaTek Dimensity 1200 900, AMD Athlon Silver 7120U, Snapdragon 860, 005300 AMD PRO A12-9800B 7th Gen APU (FP4 15W), AMD FX-4300 4c4t, AMD Ryzen R1305G, 005200 AMD PRO A10-8770E, AMD A10-9700E, AMD PRO A10-9700B (FP4 15W), Intel Core i3-4130T, 005100 AMD RX-427BB (FP3 15W), AMD A10-9620P, AMD A12-9720P, Intel Core i5-5350U, Intel Core i3-8145U, 005100 AMD A8-5500 (FM2 65W), AMD A10 PRO-7800B APU, Intel Pentium Silver N5000, 005100 Intel Core i3-7100U (FCBGA1356 15W), Intel Core i7-5500U, Intel Core i3-6100U, 005000 Intel Core i5-5300U, Intel Core i5-3320M, AMD Athlon 300U, 004900 Intel Core i5-4300U, Intel Core i5-5200U, Intel Core i3-4100M, 004860 Intel Core i7-2620M, Intel Core i7-2640M, 004650 Intel Core i5-2520M, Intel Core i5-3210M, AMD A10-9600P (FP4 4c 15W), 004600 AMD PRO A8-9600B, AMD PRO A12-8830B, AMD PRO A10-8730B, AMD A12-9700P, 004400 AMD A10-8700P A8-8600P, Intel Core i5-4200U, Intel Core i5-2540M, 004000 Intel Core i5-2430M, AMD PRO A8-8600B, AMD 3020e, MT6797, 003850 Intel Core i5-2410M, Intel Core i3-2120 (LGA1155 65W), 003800 AMD A10-4600M APU, AMD A10 PRO-7350B APU, AMD A10-5750M APU, 003600 AMD A8-6500T APU, AMD A8-7410 APU, AMD PRO A6-8550B, AMD A8-5550M APU 003500 AMD GX-424CC SOC (FT3b 25W 4c4t), Intel Core i3-4000M, 003450 ARM A75 Unisoc Tiger T610 (8c 5W), 003400 AMD A10-7300 APU, AMD A6-7310 APU, AMD A8-6410, AMD A10-5745M APU 003350 Intel Pentium G2020, Intel Core i3-3120M, AMD R-464L APU, 003300 AMD GX-420CA SOC (FT3 BGA769 25W), AMD A6-9500E, 003200 AMD A6-6310 APU, AMD A6-6400B APU, AMD A6-8570E, AMD A8-4500M APU, AMD A6-7400K APU 003000 AMD A8-7150B, AMD A9-9410 / A9-9425, AMD A6-8500B (FP4 15W), AMD A8-7100, 002900 AMD PRO A6-8530B, AMD A6-8500P, AMD A8-3500M APU, Intel Core i3-2120T, 002700 AMD Embedded GX-420GI (FP4 15W), AMD PRO A6-9500B, AMD GX-415GA, AMD A4-6210 APU, 002600 AMD A6-9225, AMD A8-4555M APU, 002500 AMD A4-5000 APU (FT3 15W), AMD A6-9220, AMD A6-3420M APU, 002450 Intel Celeron 2950M, Intel Pentium N3700, Intel Core i3-2350M, 002400 Intel Celeron N3150, Intel Core i3-2330M, Intel Xeon W3505, 002300 Intel Celeron N3350, AMD A4-9120, AMD A4-9125, Intel Core i3-2310M, 002200 AMD A9-9420e, AMD A6-5350M APU, AMD E2-6110 APU, AMD A6-9210, AMD E2-9000e, 002000 AMD GX-412HC, AMD A4-4300M APU, AMD A6 PRO-7050B APU, AMD A6-4400M APU, AMD A6-7000, 001925 Intel Core2 Duo E6700, Intel Pentium Extreme Edition 965, Intel Core i3-370M, 001750 Intel Core i3-2365M 2375M, AMD A4-9120C, Intel Core2 Duo T8300, AMD E2-3800, Qualcomm MSM8939, 001600 AMD GX-222GC (BGA769 FT3b 15W), AMD A4-9120e, AMD Embedded GX-215JJ, AMD A4-4355M APU, 001550 Intel Core2 Duo SL9400 T7600 T6600, AMD E2-3200, AMD A6-9220e, MT8783, 001500 AMD GX-218GL SOC, AMD A6-4455M, AMD A4-5150M APU, ARM A55 RK3566 (4c 3W), 001400 AMD GX-217GA SOC, ARM Cortex-A53 4c4t H700, Allwinner A133P, AMD A4-3300M APU, 001300 AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-64 TL-62, Intel Core2 Duo T7300, Intel Core2 Duo T5600, 001250 AMD GX-412TC SOC, AMD A4-3320M APU, AMD Athlon 64 X2 QL-66, Intel Core2 Duo T7200 001200 AMD Athlon 64 X2 2c TK-57, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-60 RM-74, AMD E1-2500 APU 001150 Intel Core2 Duo T5550, Intel Core2 Duo L7500, AMD E2-3000M APU, ARM A35 RK3266, 001100 Intel Core2 Duo T5300, AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800, Intel Core2 Duo E4300, MT8127, 001050 AMD E1-6010 APU, Intel Pentium T4300, 001050 AMD Athlon 64 FX-57, AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core TK-55, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-52 001000 Intel Core2 Duo T5500, Intel Core2 Duo L7300, Intel Core2 Duo SU9400, 000950 AMD G-T56N, AMD Athlon 64 3100+, AMD E2-2000 APU, 000950 AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-50, AMD E1-2200 APU, Intel Celeron U3400, 000925 AMD TurionX2 Dual Core Mobile RM-72, AMD Sempron 140 000920 Intel Celeron SU2300, Intel Core2 Duo T5200, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-56 000890 AMD E2-1800 APU, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-58 000880 AMD G-T56E, AMD G-T48E, 000860 AMD E-450 APU, AMD E-350 APU, AMD Athlon LE-1620 000820 AMD A4-1250 APU, AMD Athlon LE-1600, 000810 AMD E1-2100 APU, Intel Core Duo T2500, 000810 Intel Atom D510, Intel Core2 Duo U7500, 000800 AMD Geode NX 2400+, AMD Turion 64 Mobile ML-42, AMD Athlon II Neo K325, 000760 AMD V140, AMD E1-1200 APU, AMD Athlon 64 3300+, 000730 Intel Core Duo T2400, AMD Turion 64 Mobile MK-38, AMD Sempron 3600+, 000700 Intel Core2 Duo U7600 U7700, AMD Sempron LE-1200, AMD V120 000680 AMD GX-212JC SOC, AMD E-300 APU, AMD A4-1200 APU, 000670 AMD Turion 64 Mobile MK-36 ML-37 ML-40, Mobile AMD Sempron 3800+ 000640 Intel Atom N2600, Intel Atom N570, Mobile AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 000640 Intel Core Duo T2300, Intel Core Duo T2050, 000630 VIA Eden X2 U4200, AMD Sempron LE-1100, AMD Sempron 3100+ 3600+, 000620 AMD C-70 C70 APU, Intel Atom 330, AMD G-T40N, AMD Athlon Neo MV-40, 000610 Intel Core2 Duo U7300, AMD Athlon II Neo K125 K145, 000600 Intel Atom N550, Intel Pentium 4, AMD Athlon 64 2800+, 000580 AMD C-60 C60, AMD G-T40E, AMD Sempron LE-1250 000530 AMD C-50 C50, Intel Celeron M 723, AMD Sempron 210U, 000490 AMD GX-210JA SOC, PowerPC 970 G5 IBM's 970 server CPU (2c), 000470 Mobile AMD Sempron 3500+, Mobile AMD Athlon XP-M 2200+, 000460 AMD Athlon XP 2500+, AMD Sempron 3500+, Mobile Intel Pentium 4, 000440 Intel Atom D425, Intel Atom N470, POWER 4 PPC, 000410 Intel Pentium M, Intel Celeron M, AMD Sempron 2300+ 000400 Intel Atom N450, AMD Sempron 2400+, 000340 Intel Atom D410, AMD G-T52R, AMD C-30, AMD Sempron 2200+ 000330 Intel Atom N455, Intel Atom N280, Intel Atom N270 (1c1t 2W), Intel P3, 000320 Freescale NXP QorIQ P1022 000310 PowerPC G4 7447 1Ghz (1c1t 15W), PPC440 core, 000230 PowerPC PPC G3/PPC 750, 000160 Pentium II, Motorola 68060 000080 Intel 80486, Motorola 68030, 000040 Intel 80386, 000030 Motorola 68020 000008 Motorola 68000 </pre> === Recommended hardware (32-bit) === [[#top|...to the top]] Recommended hardware is hardware that has been tested with latest release of AROS and is relatively easy to purchase second hand (ie. ebay). This hardware also comes with commitment that compatibility will be maintained with each future release. If in future decision will be made to drop any of the recommended hardware from the list (for example due to it no longer being available for purchase), such hardware will move to list of legacy supported systems and will have an indicated end of life date so that users have time to switch to other hardware. {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" | <!--OK-->{{Yes|'''Works well'''}} || <!--Not working-->{{No|'''Does not work'''}} || <!--Not applicable-->{{N/A|'''N/A not applicable'''}} |- |} ==== Virtual Hardware ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | VirtualBox 7.x (Other/Unknown template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|PCNET32<br/>E1000}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- | VMware 16+ (Other32 template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|PCNET32}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- | QEMU 8.x ("pc" and "q35" machines) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|PCNET32}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- |} ==== Laptops ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | ACER Aspire One ZG5 || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(IDE)}} || {{Yes|GMA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|RTL8169}} || {{Yes|ATHEROS}} || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- | Dell Latitude D520 || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{Yes|GMA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|BCM4400}} || {{No|}} || {{Yes|Atheros AR5BXB63}} || * select Intel Core 2 64-bit version, not Celeron 32-bit version <br/> * replace WiFi card to get wireless working |- |} ==== Desktop Systems ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | Fujitsu Futro S720 || {{Yes|SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * no 2D/3D acceleration<br/> * use USB ports at back |- |} ==== Motherboards ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | ASUS P8Z68V LX || {{Yes|SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * add external PCIe video card for better performance |- | Gigabyte GA-MA770T UD3/UD3P || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * requires external PCIe video card |- | ASUS M2N68-AM SE2 || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{Yes|NVIDIA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|NVNET}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * connecting a disk via SATA connector is not supported at this time <br/> * add external PCIe video card for better performance |- | Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2H || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * add external PCIe video card for better performance |- |} ==== Legacy supported hardware ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="10%" |EOL ! width="35%" |Comments |- | iMica || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{Yes|GMA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || 2026-12-31 || |- | Gigabyte GA-MA770 UD3 || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(IDE)}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || 2026-12-31 || * requires external PCIe video card |- |} === Recommended hardware (64-bit) === [[#top|...to the top]] Recommended hardware is hardware that has been tested with latest release of AROS and is relatively easy to purchase second hand (ie. ebay). This hardware also comes with commitment that compatibility will be maintained with each future release. ==== Virtual Hardware ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | VirtualBox 7.x (Other/Unknown (64-bit) template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|PCNET32<br/>E1000}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- | VMware 16+ (Other64 template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|E1000}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- | QEMU 8.x ("pc" and "q35" machines) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|PCNET32}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- |} ==== Motherboards ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | ASUS P8Z68V LX || {{Yes|SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- |} ==References== [[#top|...to the top]] {{reflist}} {{BookCat}} qqo7pdieyocy9fba87tb3mjn6fh8224 4520793 4520792 2025-07-01T16:44:23Z Jeff1138 301139 4520793 wikitext text/x-wiki {{ArosNav}} ==Introduction== This a list of computer hardware tested with mostly native AROS installs and, in the recommended sections, of virtual machines With 64bit support it is recommended 8Gb ram is needed and that SSE 4.1 and AVX are supported in the CPU i.e. from year 2012 for Intel CPUs and 2013 for AMD CPUs. They are x86-64 instruction sets designed to perform the same operations on multiple data items simultaneously, a technique known as Single Instruction, Multiple Data (SIMD). This allows for increased performance in tasks involving parallel computation. SSE 4.1 is a 128-bit SIMD instruction set, while AVX introduced 256-bit SIMD, further enhancing performance. Some apps require these features to run well, like 3D, multimedia decoding or JIT (javascript) in Odyssey web browser. If not the apps may work slower or might fail. If you have encountered differently (i.e. problems, incompatibilities, faults, niggles, annoyances, environment, errors, review of setup etc) please update this information. Please bear in mind that AROS has only a few hardware driver developers, whilst Linux counts in the tens and Windows in the hundreds. So consequently, be aware that driver support on native is now a decade behind linux, MacOS(TM) and Windows(TM). Although still being worked upon Alternatively, an hosted OS (windows or linux) of AROS could give better results. [[#Laptops]] [[#Netbook]] [[#Desktop Systems]] [[#Recommended hardware (32-bit)]] [[#Recommended hardware (64-bit)]] === Laptops === [[#top|...to the top]] * 2006/2007 Dell Latitude D-series laptops - business class machines, good support in Aros, easy to replace wifi card * 2006 some [https://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/laptops-portable-pcs/laptops-and-netbooks/toshiba-satellite-pro-a200-28550/review Satellite Pro A200] * 2008 For the tiny carry anywhere, the early run of Acer Aspire netbooks Rough estimate from taking a random laptop notebook what you can expect from a Native install of AROS {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Date ! width="5%" |Overall ! width="5%" |Gfx VESA ! width="5%" |Gfx 2D Acceleration ! width="10%" |Gfx 3D Acceleration ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Before 2002 || Poor to OK || VESA 90% || 2D 10% || {{N/A}} || Audio 10% || 40% || Wired 70% || 2% || Max RAM 512MB |- | 2002-2005 || OK || VESA 95% || 2D 10% || 3D 0% || Audio 30% || 70% || Wired 50% || 4% || Max RAM 1GB |- | 2005-2012 || Good || VESA 98% || 2D 60% || 3D 30% || Audio 60% || 80% || Wired 30% || 10% || Max RAM 2 / 4GB |- | 2013-2017 || OK || VESA 98% || 2D 10% || 3D 0% || Audio 20% || 60% || Wired 20% || 0% || Max RAM 8GB / 16GB |- | 2018-2025 || Poor || VESA 98% || 2D 0% || 3D 0% || Audio 0% || 0% || Wired 20% || 0% || Max RAM 32GB |- | 202X-202x || Poor || VESA 95% || 2D 0% || 3D 0% || Audio 0% || 0% || Wired 10% || 0% || Max RAM 64GB |- |} 3D tests now conducted with apps found in Demos/AROS/Mesa and run at default size (may need to View As -> Show All to see them. Any laptop with Windows 7(TM) 64bit or higher install, the bios and hard drive set in uefi/gpt mode (install of AROS incompatible) Most vendor suppliers get OEM (original equipment manufacturers) to make their laptops. These brand name companies purchase their laptops from *80% ODM (Original Design Manufacturer) such as Quanta, Compal, Wistron, Inventec, Foxconn (Hon Hai), Flextronics and Asus (now Pegatron) *20% MiTAC, FIC, Arima, Uniwill, ECS, Tonfang Origin and Clevo {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" | <!--OK-->{{Yes|'''Works well'''}} || <!--May work-->{{Maybe|'''Works a little'''}} || <!--Not working-->{{No|'''Does not work'''}} || <!--Not applicable-->{{N/A|'''N/A not applicable'''}} |- |} ====Acer/Gateway/Emachines==== Company founded under the name of Multitech in Taiwan in 1976, renamed to Acer or Acer Group in 1987 Order of build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Packard Bell Aspire Extensa TimeLine Travelmate </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="2%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Travelmate 505 506 507 508 Series || <!--Chipset-->P2 Celeron 466Mhz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes|boots}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Neo Magic Magic Graph 128XD (NM2160)}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 Crystal CS}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 minimal support but no audio etc - 506T, 506DX, 507T, 507DX, 508T |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 340 342 343 345 347 || <!--Chipset-->ALi M1621 with piii || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Trident Cyber 9525 || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1969 Solo-1}} || <!--USB-->2 ALi OHCI USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->a few have Intel e100 || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2000 32bit - 340T, 341T, 342T, 342TV, 343TV, 345T, 347TV |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 350 351 352 353 || <!--Chipset-->Ali with piii || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Trident Cyber Blade DSTN/Ai1 || <!--Audio-->{{No|ali5451}} || <!--USB-->2 USB 1.1 Ali M5237 OHCI || <!--Ethernet-->e100 || <!--Wireless-->Acer InviLink IEEE 802.11b || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit very limited support but no support for PCMCIA O2 Micro OZ6933 - 350T, 351TEV, 352TEV, 353TEV |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 610 series 611 612 613 614 || <!--Chipset-->815 P3 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 82815 cgc || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->Intel e100 pro || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit - 610TXVi 610T 611TXV 612TX 613TXC |- | Aspire 3003LM || SIS AMD 3000 1.8GHz || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SIS AGP M760GX (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97 SIS codec}} || 3 USB 2.0 || {{yes|SIS900}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4318 AirForce One 54g}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 sempron |- | Travelmate 2310 Series ZL6 || Intel Celeron M 360 1.4GHz with SiS 661MX || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SiS Mirage M661MX (VESA only)}} || {{yes|SIS SI7012 AC97 with realtek ALC203 codec speakers only}} || || {{yes|SIS900}} || {{N/A|LM version has pci card slot but no antenna}} || Icaros 2.1.1 || 2004 32bit - No USB boot option but boot from DVD - reports of wifi losing connection (isolate/remove the metallic grounding foil ends of the antennas) - 2312LM_L - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 3000 3002LMi 3500 5000 || <!--Chipset-->AMD CPU W-with SIS M760 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->SIS 760 || <!--Audio-->SIS || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->SIS 900 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4318 swap for Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 3050 5020 5050 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Single and Turion MK-36 Dual and RS480 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - RS482M Xpress 1100 or RS485M Xpress 1150 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio Realtek ALC883 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5006G or Broadcom BCM 4318 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit MK36 gets very hot |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 2410 2420 2430 series || <!--Chipset-->915GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel Mobile 915GMS 910GML || <!--Audio-->Intel AC97 ICH6 with ALC203 codec || <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL-8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5005GS || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 2428AWXMi - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 3610 - WISTRON MORAR 3614WLMI || <!--Chipset-->Intel 915 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 2D and 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|[http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=644066&postcount=13 AC97]}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL 8139 8139C+}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros AR5001X+, AR5BMB5 or Broadcom 4318}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.2.4 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit with good support [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6205188#post6205188 wifi issues] |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 2480 series 2483 WXMi (HannStar J MV4 94V) 2483NWXCi Aspire 3680, 3690 || <!--Chipset-->940GML i943 with Celeron 430 1.77GHz - 14.1" || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D and 3D openGL 1.x - Tunnel 181 gearbox 104 scores}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC883 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|3 USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8038 yukon sky2}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 5k AR5005G AR5BMB5 mini pci}} suspect laptop hardware issues || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 Works well shame about the internet options - noisy fan - poor battery life - no boot option for TI based mass storage sd card - Max 2GB memory - LCD Inverter Board IV12090/T-LF - |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 2490 series 2492WXMi || <!--Chipset-->940GML || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 945 2D and 3D tunnel 164 gearbox 105}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR5005GS suspect hardware issue}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit - 15inch screen - strange curved up at ends keyboard style - overall plastic construction - Atheros AR5005G(s) - |- | <!--Name-->Gateway ML6227B MA7 || <!--Chipset-->Celeron M 520 1.6Ghz with 945GM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|945GM 2D and 3D tunnel 169 gearbox 132}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDA Intel with STAC9250 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8038}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|8187L but swap ath5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 15.4 ultrabrite widescreen - Wifi Switch on side Fn/F2 - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 5630-6796 6288 BL50 || <!--Chipset-->T5200 T5500 Intel® Core™2 Duo T7200 T7400 T7600 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel® GMA 950 with S-Video out}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 USB}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom BCM4401}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945abg swap for Atheros 5K}} || <!--Test Distro-->Tiny AROS || <!--Comments-->2006 - 64bit 39.1 cm (15.4" 1280 x 800) - 2 DDR2-SDRAM slots max 4GB - green mobo?? - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 5633WMLI BL51 || <!--Chipset-->T5500 with Intel® 945PM/GM Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia Go 7300}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with Realtek codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom 440x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 swap for Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Tiny Aros || <!--Comments-->2007 64 bit dual core2 - 15.4 WXGA screen - ddr2 max 4gb - OrbiCam no support - ENE chipset SD card - blue mobo?? - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 9410 9420 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core Duo with 945PM Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300 - 128 MB VRAM G72M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel HD audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 8111 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945ABG but could swap with atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - 17in TFT 1,440 x 900 WXGA+ - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->eMachines E510 series KAL10 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Celeron M 560 2.13Ghz with PM965 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel x3100 || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel with codec}} || <!--USB-->Intel || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5906M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros G AR5BXB63 bios issue??}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2007 32bit very budget machine with InsydeH20 bios and F10 boot menu |- | <!--Name-->ACER Aspire 5920 5920G || <!--Chipset-->Santa Rosa Core 2 Duo T7300 T7500 later T9300 with GM965 and PM965(G) Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for X3100M or 8600M GS (rev a1) 9500M GT 256MB vram (G) but some AMD/ATI RV635 M86 HD 3650}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with realtek alc888 codec ICH8}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5787M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945ABG 4965 or Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro-->Deadwood test iso 2023-01 2023-11 || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit boot with 'noacpi' or 'noioapic' - 15.4in 1280 x 800 pixels 16:10 - BMW Designworks ‘Gemstone’ design - over 3.0kg with options for 8-cell or 6-cell batteries - 2 SODIMM DDR2 667MT/s max 4GB - synaptics touchpad - |- | <!--Name-->Acer A0521 Ao721 || Athlon II Neo K125 + AMD M880G || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{maybe|ATI Radeon HD 4225 (VESA only)}} || {{No|Conexant}} || {{Maybe}}|| {{no|AR8152 l1c}} || {{no|AR9285 ath9k}} || AspireOS 1.7 || 2006 64bit possible |- | <!--Name--> Extensa 5630Z || <!--Chipset-->T6600 with Intel GL40 Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Yes|Intel GMA 4500M HD (2D)}} || <!--Audio--> {{Yes|HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> {{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet--> {{No|Broadcom BCM 5764M}} || <!--Wireless--> {{No|RaLink RT2860}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit |- |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 5250 series 5253 BZ400 BZ602 || <!--Chipset-->E350 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{no|VESA 2D for AMD HD6310}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDaudio for codec Conexant CX20584}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8151}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros 9k AR5B97}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire V5 V5-121 V5121 AO725 One 725 || <!--Chipset-->AMD C-70 C70 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{no|VESA for AMD 6290G}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|Realtek ALC269 codec}} || <!--USB-->2 x USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire V5-122P MS2377 || <!--Chipset-->C-70 C70 with M55, AMD A4-1250 or A6 1450 up to 1.4Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->AMD 8210 || <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec || <!--USB-->FCH USB EHCI OHCI || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169 but LAN/VGA Combo Port Cable (AK.LAVGCA 001) or MiniCP port to Acer Converter Cable (Mini CP to VGA/LAN/USB) (NP.OTH11 00C) needed}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros 9k AR9565}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aros One || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit but no sse4 or avx - 26w battery internal, extension possible - 11.6in 1366 x 768 ips touchscreen - 7mm hd ssd - 2gb ddr3l soldered with 1 slot free max 4GB - bios hacking needed for virtualisation - |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell EasyNote TE69 TE69KB 522 || <!--Chipset-->slow E1-2500, E2-3800 2c2t Dual or A4-5000 4c4t Quad both soldered BGA769 (FT3) on Hudson-2 FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Use IDE mode}} setting AHCI to IDE mode - boots if UEFI set to Legacy || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for ATI Radeon 8120 8240, 8320, 8330 or 8280 islands}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AMD Azalia HD Audio with ALC282 0x10ec0282 codec but not HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|Bios, Boot, set Boot mode to Legacy, nothing from USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8171 AR8175 or Broadcom BCM57780}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9565 0x1969 0x10a1}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aspire OS Xenon and AROS One 1.6 usb || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit with sse4.1 and AVX - 15.6in washed out screen big netbook - Boots with noacpi after using F2 to enter EFI firmware and f12 boot device - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots max 16Gb - |- | <!--Name-->ASPIRE Acer Aspire ES1-520 521 522 Series N15C4 ES1-523 || <!--Chipset-->AMD AMD E1-7010, A8-7410 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA for RADEON R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|Realtek ALC 233 or CX20752 HD AUDIO CODEC}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8151 Gigabit or Broadcom 590x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek RTL8187 or 8812BU}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aros One || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit with sse4.1 and AVX - 2 ddr3l slots - keyboard connected to top case - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 3, 5 A515-44-R0ZN || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 4500u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in or 15.6" 1080p - 19v round charging - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr0tC3QJWxk repair], 4gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Swift 3 SF314-43, Swift SF315-41 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 7 5700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 1080p - small round ac or usb-c - |- | <!--Name-->Swift 3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Asus==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Asus L8400-K Medion MD9467 || <!--Chipset-->Intel desktop 850MHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->S3 Savage MX || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS allegro 1988}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Asus L2000 L2400 L2D Series Medion 9675 || <!--Chipset-->Athlon 4 mobile || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use vesa sis630 || <!--Audio-->{{No|sis7018}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->sis900 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->x51R X51RL || <!--Chipset-->Duo T2250 T2330 with RS480 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|boots and detects}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL-8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR5006EG AR5111 ath5k AzureWave AW-GE780 - could be ATI Chipset}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2, deadwood 2021, || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit 15.4 WXGA - 19v barrel - ESC boot select - F2 bios - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Asus R2H Ultra Mobile PC UMPC || <!--Chipset-->Celeron 900Mhz 910GML || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA900 || <!--Audio-->Ac97 ALC880 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8169 8101e || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm4fOrqyj3g boots] |- | <!--Name-->Asus A3 series A3F Ergo Ensis 211 RM || <!--Chipset-->P-M 1.6GHz to Core Duo with 950 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945 || <!--Audio-->Ac97 ALC655 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8100CL 10/100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit only |- | <!--Name-->Z33 || <!--Chipset-->915 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->915GM || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC880 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 2915ABG || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit Z33A Z33AE N5M N5A |- | Z70A Z70V Z70Va M6A z7000 z7000a || i915 + ICH6 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|mobile 915GML}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|ICH6 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Marvell 88E8001}} || {{no|Intel PRO 2200BG Fn / F2}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2005 32bit |- | [http://www.progweb.com/en/2010/09/linux-sur-un-portable-asus-a6jm/ A6jm] A6JC || 945GM || IDE || SATA || {{yes|nVidia GeForce Go 7600 G70}} || {{no|HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|RTL8111 8168B}} || {{no|Intel 3945 ABG}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2006 32bit only |- | <!--Name-->F3Jc || <!--Chipset-->945PM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->G72M Quadro NVS 110M, GeForce Go 7300 || <!--Audio-->D audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8169 8111 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->X50GL F5GL || <!--Chipset-->T5800 with 965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA 2d - Nvidia 8200M G84 runs hot}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio MCP79 with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|MCP79}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR5B91 AW-NE77}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2 || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit not much support no display with nouveau - 19v barrel - ddr2 max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS G50 & G51 series G50V G50Vt G51V G51VX G51J G51Jx G50VT X1 X5 ROG || <!--Chipset-->AMD64 with MCP71 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} || <!--Gfx-->nVidia GeForce 9800M GS (G94M) up to GT200 [GeForce GTX 260M] (G92M) || <!--Audio-->Nvidia HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros L1C atl1c}} || <!--Wireless-->Atheros G or Intel || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit not all GPUs are failing but a much higher % failing early, 8x00 and 9x00 G84, G86, G92, G94, and G96 series chips dying - ddr2 max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->M50V M50 series || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core 2 Duo P8400 or T9400 with Intel PM45 ICH9 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|BIOS set to compatibility IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GS or 9650M GT || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC663 || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 realtek 8169 8111C}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 5100 or Atheros AR928X}}|| <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.0 USB || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit - 15.40 inch 16:10, 1680 x 1050 glossy - the "Infusion" design - heavy 3kg - ddr2 ram max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->Series F9 F9E F9dc F9f F9j F9s || <!--Chipset-->965GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Vesa}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio ALC660 playback}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|works}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|intel 3495 not working}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.41 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit - ddr2 max 4gb - |- | P52F SO006X || i3-370M || IDE || SATA || {{yes|nVidia G92 [GeForce 9800 GT] (2D)}} || {{no|Intel HD Audio}} || {{yes|2 USB2.0}} || {{no|Atheros AR8121 AR8113 AR8114 (l1e)}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2010 64bit - ddr3 slot - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Asus * X53U MB Ver K53U or K52U Asus K53U MB Ver K53U * A53U XT2 X53B MB ver: K53BY (compal) || <!--Chipset-->Slow atom like speed E-350 (2011), E-450 (2011) on AMD M780G, much slower C-50 C50 (2012), C-60 C60 on the AMD A50M dark brown plastic build || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|Set IN Bios IDE MODE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA ATi 6310M, 6320M later 6250M or 6290M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with alc269 codec Altec Lansing® Speakers}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|3 x USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|rtl8169 with RTL8111 phy}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros half height ar9285 cannot swap with ar5000 mini pci-e as smaller card required}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 and AROS One 1.6 USB || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6in 1368 x 768 dull 50% srgb screen - f2 bios setup, esc boot drive - 5200 or 7800 mAh battery covers ASUS K53S K53E X54C X53S K84L X53SV X54HR K53F X53U laptops - 2 DDR3L slots max 8Gb - 19v barrel 5.5 / 2.5 mm - |- | <!--Name-->Asus K53T, Asus A53Z X53Z || <!--Chipset-->AMD A4-3305M on AMD M780G, A6-3420M dark brown plastic build || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|Set IN Bios IDE MODE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD 6520G, 7670M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|3 x USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 with RTL8111 phy}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros half height}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6in 1368 x 768 dull 50% srgb screen - f2 bios setup, esc boot drive - 2 DDR3L slots max 8Gb - 19v barrel 5.5 / 2.5 mm - Altec Lansing® Speakers - |- | <!--Name-->X55U X401U X501U 1225B || <!--Chipset-->slow C-60 C60, C-70 C70 or E1 1200 E2 1800 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->6290G || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9485 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6" display - ram soldered - |- | <!--Name-->Asus A43TA A53TA K53TA XE2 A73T || <!--Chipset-->AMD A4-3300M, A6 3400M (laptop chip) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|Set IN Bios IDE MODE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA AMD Radeon HD 6520G Integrated + HD 6470M (1GB GDDR3)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - f2 bios setup, esc boot drive - |- | <!--Name-->X102BA || <!--Chipset-->Llano E1 1200 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|ide bios setting}} || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 8180 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 10.1” Touchscreen - special asus 45w ac adapter - |- | <!--Name-->K55N, K75DE || <!--Chipset-->AMD a6 4400M A8 4500M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD 7640G || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC codec none through ATi Trinity HDMI || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9485 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 17.3-inch - |- | <!--Name-->X452EA X552EA F552E || <!--Chipset-->AMD E1 2100 or A4 5000M A8 4500M A10 4600M with A || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for AMD ATI Sun XT Radeon HD 8330 8670A 8670M 8690M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AMD FCH Azalia rev 02 with ALC898 codec}} || <!--USB-->USB3 with USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{{Yes|Realtek RTL8111 8168 8411}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9485}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit may support avx kabini trinity - |- | <!--Name-->Asus X555Y - keyboard from Asus X555B X555D X555L X555S X555U X555Y X555LA fits? silver-colored plastic || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-7210 A8-7410 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk }} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for AMD R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->Realtek || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr3 slot - silver-colored plastic - internal battery - |- | <!--Name-->Asus X555D || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-8700P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for AMD R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr3 slot - silver-coloured plastic - internal battery - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS X555Q || <!--Chipset-->AMD® Bristol Ridge A10-9600P 7th Gen, A12-9720p || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->R5 + Radeon™ R6 M435DX Dual Graphics with VRAM GCN 3 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8821AE || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - FHD 15.6 1920x1080 - 37W battery internal - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr3 slot - internal battery - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M509ba || <!--Chipset-->AMD A9-9425 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->RADEON R5 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot max 16Gb - 19VDC 2.37A Max 45W 4.0mm x 1.35mm - keyboard swap problematic - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset-->AMD || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVme || <!--Gfx-->AMD || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS Vivibook M509DA X509DA M509DJ M509DL or M409DJ M409DA X409DA M409BA || <!--Chipset-->AMD® Ryzen™ 2c Athlon Silver 3050U 3200U, 4c AMD® Ryzen™ 5 3500U 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->{{No|nvme}} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for AMD Vega 5 8 or nvidia MX230 MX250}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS one || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14" or 15" transparent Silver Slate Grey - 4 or 8g soldered and 1 ddr4 sodimm slot max 8g - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ExpertBook P1410, ASUS ExpertBook P1 P1510CD || <!--Chipset-->3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit 14in or 15.6in - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ZenBook UM431DA, Vivobook X515DA M515DA, VivoBook X512DA M512DA, || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3500u 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVme || <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega 8 or 10 || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14" 1080p - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Zenbook 14 UM433, UM425IA, Vivobook M413DA || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 4500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in 1080p - asus round ac - |- | <!--Name-->Vivobook X513, Asus Vivobook 15 M513 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 5500U, 7 5700u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme and might have 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - round asus ac - |- | <!--Name-->Zenbook Flip 14 || <!--Chipset-->AMD R7 6800H || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 14inch 1080p - |- | <!--Name-->Vivobook Go 15 E1504FA || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 7320U, AMD Ryzen 5 7520U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio for codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No| USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ==== Dell ==== [[#top|...to the top]] Order of build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Studio Inspiron Vostro XPS Alienware Precision Latitude </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="10%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Latitude CP 233GT, CPi d233xt d266xt D300XT a366xt, CPt S400GT S500GT S550GT S600GT S700ST, CPt C333GT C400GT || <!--Chipset-->Neo Magic || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - Neo magic Magic Media 2160 2360 256ZX || <!--Audio-->{{No|crystal pnp 4237b or magic media 256zx sound nm2360}} || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit Low-Density 16-chip 144p 144-pin 32Mx64 3.3V SODIMM - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Latitude CPx H450GT H500GT H Series, CPt V433GT V466GT V600, Inspiron 5000 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 440BX with Pentium 3M (CPx) or Celeron (CPt) || <!--IDE-->{{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use Vesa - ATi Rage Pro Mobility M1}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1978 Maestro 2E Canyon 3D}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|1 slot 1.1 only}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Test Distro-->NB May 2013 || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit - 3 pin PA-6 PA6 power adapter plug - CDROM DVD Cxxx family media bay accessories untested |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C500 C600 (Quanta TM6) Inspiron 4000 7500, CPx J Series || <!--Chipset-->440BX ZX/DX || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|ATI Rage 128Pro Mobility M3 (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|ES1983S Maestro 3i}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 1.1 only}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A|some models had mini pci e100}}|| <!--Wireless-->{{N/A|a few came with internal antenna wiring}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->1999 square 3 pin charger PA9 PA-9 - C/Dock II untested - C/Port untested - Parallel to Floppy cable untested - CPx J600GT J650GT J700GT J750GT J800GT J850GT |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C510 C610 Insprion 4100 PP01L 2600 || <!--Chipset-->i830 and 1GHz+ P3-M || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|use VESA - ATI Radeon Mobility M6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 CS4205}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|3Com Etherlink}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|internal antenna wiring for an Atheros mini pci card}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2000 poor build quality - hard to find in good working order |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C400 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 830 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Intel 830 CGC}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ac97 Crystal 4205}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|3Com 3c905C TX/TX-M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2000 Slim for the time - no media bays |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C640 (Quanta TM8) C840 Inspiron 8k2 8200 i8200 precision m50 || <!--Chipset-->P4M with 845EP || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA if ATi - use nouveau if 64mb Nvidia Gforce 4 440 Go || <!--Audio-->AC97 CS4205 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->3com 905c || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 C640 had one fan so was noisy and hot - C840 had 2 fans and ran slightly cooler but fan noise louder |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | Latitude D400 || P-M 82845 || {{yes|82801 ide}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|VESA only}} || {{yes|AC97 Audio playback only}} || {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || {{maybe|PRO 100 VM (KM)}} || {{no|BCM4318 AirForce one 54g replace with atheros 5k mini pci}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit might boot from USB stick but won't boot from USB-DVD - no sd card slot - power plug style - |- | Latitude D500 / D505 PP10L, Inspiron 510m || 855GME * revA00 * revA03 * revA06 | {{yes|IDE but needs the Dell adapter}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|855GM Gfx (VESA only)}} || {{Yes|Intel AC97 with IDT STAC 9750 codec playback head phones only}} || {{maybe| }} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VE}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4306 but exchange with atheros g in panel on laptop bottom}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || 2003 - 14 / 15 inch XGA 4:3 screen - plastic build - no sd card slot - boots from bay optical drive - not powering on/off with ac adapter is a [http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=37&topicid=30585 mobo fault of PC13 SMT 1206 ceramic cap hot] suggest [http://www.die4laser.com/D505fix/ 0.1uF 50V instead] - pc2700 333Mhz ram 1Gb max - |- | Latitude D505 (some) || VIA VT8237 VX700 || {{yes|IDE}} || || {{partial|VESA 2d on ATI RV350 Radeon 9550}} || {{no|VIA AC97 with codec}} || {{maybe|VIA USB glitchy}} || {{yes|VIA VT6102 Rhine-II}} || {{no|Intel 2200g Calexico2}} || <!--Test Distro--> || 2003 32bit little support - diagnostics pressing holding the Fn key, press the Power ON button (battery removed). Check the LEDs pattern - cmos battery behind flap in laptop battery slot - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1000 || <!--Chipset-->SIS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use VESA SIS}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 SIS with AD1981B codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|SIS 900 but}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit [https://forum.level1techs.com/t/my-time-with-icaros-desktop-and-what-i-am-doing-as-a-dev-contributor-also-some-other-shit/113358 aremis using it] |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1100 PP07L || <!--Chipset-->845 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Intel 845G}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC'97 playback}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom 4401}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2004 |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 8500 5150 || <!--Chipset-->P4 855GM || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia 5200 Go - VESA if intel gfx}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|MCP AC97 with SigmaTel 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom 440x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4306 rev 02 use Atheros Mini PCI}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit P4 runs well but hot |- | Latitude X300 PP04S small, slim and light case || 855GME * revA00 Intel ULV 1.2 Ghz * revA01 Intel ULV 1.4Ghz | {{yes|IDE internal and will boot cd/dvd through dock PR04S}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|855GM Gfx (VESA only)}} || {{Yes|Intel AC97 with STAC 97xx codec but no audio out of the dock}} || {{maybe|works but dock usb ports and usb DVD PD01S not detected}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM5705M gigabit}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4306 later intel - replace with atheros in the underside}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1, AROS One 1.6 usb, || 2003 12.1" 1024 x 768 - 19.5v PA-10 or PA-12 dell - ACPI works but bad s3 ram suspend sleep - no sd card boot - 1Gb max sodimm ddr 2700 |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D600 (Quanta JM2) PP05L - 600m || <!--Chipset-->82855 PM i855 * reva00 * revA01 * revA02 * revA03 * revA04 | <!--IDE--> {{yes}} || <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA - ATI Radeon RV250 Mobility FireGL 9000}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 - STAC 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5705}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 2100 or Broadcom BCM4306 - swap for Atheros panel in base}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.3 and [http://www.amiga.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-62187.html 1.4.1 and 2.1.1] || <!--Opinion-->2003 32bit 14inch using pc2100 memory with Caps light blinking is usually a memory error - Dell D505 D600 power up pressing the case docking port - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D600 (Quanta JM2) || <!--Chipset-->82855 PM i855 || <!--IDE--> {{yes}} || <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D only vidia NV28 GeForce4 Ti 4200 Go 5200 Go 5650 Go}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 - STAC 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5705}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom BCM4306 mini pci - swap for Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.3 and [http://www.amiga.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-62187.html 1.4.1] || <!--Opinion-->2003 32bit 14" - solder joints on the bios chip (press down f7/f8 keys) - RAM clean with eraser - memory cover plate maybe apply some pressure - |- | <!--Name-->D800 (Compal LA-1901) || <!--Chipset-->Intel 855 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom 570x || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom 4309 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - trackpoint type pointing device - |- | <!--Name-->D800 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 855 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{No|Nvidia }} || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom 570x || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom 4309 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit 15inch 39cm |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1200 2200 PP10S Latitude 110L m350 1.3Ghz || <!--Chipset-->Intel 915GM || <!--IDE--> {{yes|UDMA boots cd or DVD and installs to HDisk}} || <!--SATA--> {{N/A}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA900 (2D and 3D openGL 1.x) Gearbox 56}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 playback only}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Intel PRO 100 VE}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|BroadCom BCM4318 - swap for Atheros mini PCI in base panel}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.5 || <!--Comments-->2005 single core 32bit 14" 4:3 1024 768 XGA screen - heavy 6 lbs - PA16 barrel 19V 3.16A AC adapter - battery life 4cell 29WHr lasts 2 hours - 256mb soldered with 1 ddr pc2100 sodimm 1gb max - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1300 business B130 home PP21L Latitude 120L B120 by Compal - Inspiron 630m || <!--Chipset-->Intel Celeron M360 1.4GHz, M370 1.50 GHz, M380 1.73GHz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes|boots cd or DVD and installs to HDisk}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 915 2D and 3D openGL 1.x tunnel 172 gearbox 70}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio playback ear phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|works but waiting boot fail with AROS One usb version}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom 440x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|intel 2200 or BCM4318 swap for Atheros mini pci underside - one antenna lead for main wifi}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2, AROS One 1.6 usb, || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit single core - 14.1″ XGA 4:3 or 15.4" WXGA wide 1280 x 800 matte - ddr2 sodimm ram 2gb max - PA-16 19v psu tip 7.4mm * 5mm - f10 boot select f1 f2 bios |- | Latitude X1 PP05S || PP-M GMA915 rev A00 1.1GHz non-pae || {{yes|ide 1.8in zif/ce under keyboard}} || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|Vesa for Intel 915GM}} || {{yes|AC97 6.6 playback only with STAC codec}} || {{maybe|USB 2.0 but partial boot to blank screen}} || {{No|Broadcom 5751}} || {{no|Intel 2200BG - swap for Atheros mini pci under keyboard palm rest - disassembly of all laptop}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 dvd iso image virtualbox'd onto usb, Aros One 1.5 and 1.8 usb (2022) || 2005 32bit 12.1" 4:3 1024 x 768 - sd slot not bootable - 256mb soldered to board and 1 sodimm max 1GB ddr2 under keyboard - F12 bios boot F2 - pa-17 pa17 19v octagonal psu port |- | Latitude D410 PP06S *rev A00 *A01, A02 *A03 || GMA915 1.6GHz Pentium® M 730, 1.7GHz, 750 1.86GHz & 760 2.0GHz, 770 2.13GHz || {{yes|caddy and adapter needed 2.5" - remove hdd and write}} || {{N/A}} || {{Yes|Intel 915GM 2D and 3D OpenGL 1.3 tunnel 170 and gearbox 75}} || {{yes|AC97 playback only with STAC 9751 codec}} || {{maybe|works but will not boot from USB-DVD or AROS One 1.5 usb version}} || {{No|Broadcom 5751}} || {{no|Intel 2915ABG or later 2200BG - swap for Atheros mini pci under keyboard}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4, 2.1.1 and AROS One 1.5 usb, || 2005 32bit 12.1" 4:3 1024 x 768 - no sd card slot - PR06S dock base |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D510 (Quanta DM1) || <!--Chipset-->915GM socket 479 || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 915 2D and 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 STAC 975x}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG swap Atheros mini pci in base}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 14.1" 32bit single core Intel Celeron M 1.6GHz Pentium M 730 1.73Ghz - squarish 3:2 - issues with 3rd party battery 4 quick flashes of red led with 1 final green |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D610 (Quanta JM5B) PP11L || <!--Chipset-->910GML 915GM with mobile 1.6 to 2.26ghz * Rev A0x * Rev A0x * Rev A07 1.73Ghz | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 915 2D and 3D tunnel 174 gearbox 74}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 speaker head phones playback only with stac codec}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 2200BG or Broadcom mini pci under keyboard, swap wifi card for atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 14" 1024 x 768 - very noisy clicky trackpad buttons - one dimm slot under keyboard and other in underside 2GB 533Mhz 667Mhz DDR2 max - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D610 (Quanta JM5B) 0C4717 REV A05, 0K3879 REV.A00 || <!--Chipset-->915GM || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA 2d - Ati X300 no radeon 2d}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG mini pci use Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 14" 1024 x 768 - very noisy clicky trackpad buttons - 19.5v psu |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D810 (Quanta ) || <!--Chipset-->915GM || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA 2d - Ati X300 RV370 M22 later x600}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 stereo playback only idt 9751 codec}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0 but no boot from usb on 1.5}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG mini pci replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1, aros one 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 15.4" F12 one time boot menu - 19.5v 90w psu ideal - battery not same as later dx20 ones - |- | <!--Name-->Studio XPS M1210 || <!--Chipset-->GM945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->nVidia G72M 7300 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92xx || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401 B0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4311 - swap for Atheros 5k mini pci-e}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Inspirion E1705 9200 9300 9400 || <!--Chipset-->945GM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia 6800, ati X300 or nVidia 7900GS gpu 3d corrupt || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 swap with Atheros 5k mini pcie || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->[http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=6481 increasing vertical lines issues] |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1501 PP23LA Latitude 131L || <!--Chipset-->AMD on ATI RS480 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA 2d - ATI 1150 (x300) RS482M Mobility Radeon Xpress 200}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with stac 92xx codec}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom bcm 4401}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bcm4311 replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit 15.4 inch Matt 16:10, 1280x800 pixel, WXGA TFT Display - first Dell AMD machine - Sempron 1.8GHz Turion MK-36 or X2 1.6Ghz TL-50 or TL-56 |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 6000 6400, E1505 PP20L, 9300, 9200 PP14L *A00 Pentium M *A0? Core Duo || <!--Chipset-->GM945 with PM 1.73Ghz, T2050 or T2060 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|vesa 2d - Ati 9700, x1300 RV515 M52, x1400 or nvidia go 7300 on mxm board}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio IDT 9200}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|usb boot }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom BCM4401 B0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200 3945 - swap for Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1, AROS One 1.6 || <!--Comments-->2006 mostly 32bit but - 15.4 inch glossy - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots - broadcom bcm92045 bluetooth detected but no support - 19.5v dell psu socket - f2 bios setup, f12 boot order - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 6400 (Quanta FM1) *A00 Pentium M *A0? Core Duo *A08 Core2 Duo || <!--Chipset-->GM945 with BGA479 (socket M) T2050 1.6Ghz, T2060 1.60Ghz, T2080 1.73Ghz much later T5500 1.66Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 2D and 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with IDT 92xx codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom BCM4401 B0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4311 swap for Atheros 5k mini pci-e under keyboard}} || <!--Test Distro-->deadwood 2019-04-16 iso || <!--Comments-->2006 mostly 32bit - 15.4" glossy - sd card - front multimedia keys - dvd rw - generic dell keyboard - coin cr2032 bios battery under keyboard - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 640m PP19L XPS M140 e1405 || <!--Chipset-->Core Solo T2050, T2300 Duo 1.83GHz T2400 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM4401-B0 100Base || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 or Broadcom 43xx, swap for Atheros 5k - Wireless Internet ON or OFF press the Function key + F2}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32 bit - 12.1 LCD CCFL WXGA 1280x800 up to 14.1 inch 16:10 1440x900 pixel, WXGA+ UltraSharp - supports also SSE3 on duos - |- | <!--Name-->Precision M65 M90 XPS M1710 || <!--Chipset-->945PM with T2600 T2700 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->nVidia Quadro FX 350M 1600M 1500M G71 on par with the Go7900 GS to GTX 7950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with STAC 92XX codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5752 || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom BCM4311 BCM4328 swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 17" workstation type WXGA+ screen manufactured by AU Optronics poor viewing angles, unevenly lit, light leakage |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D420 (Compal LA-3071P) PP09S || <!--Chipset-->945 * revA00 Solo 1.2Ghz ULV U1400 * revA01 Duo 1.06Ghz u2500 * revA02 Duo 1.2Ghz | <!--IDE-->{{yes|ZIF/CE 1.8" slow under battery, ribbon cable}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA950 - 2D and 3D opengl tunnel 138 gearbox 103}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with STAC 92xx playback speakers head phones only)}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|2 and external usb optical drive works}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 mini pcie - swap Atheros 5k in base panel}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros Desktop 1.4 || <!--Opinion-->2006 32bit only - 12.1" 1280x800 - PR09S dock base rev02 DVD-RW usb boots - 1GB DDR2 2Rx16 max in base panel - f2 setup f5 diagnostics f12 boot list - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D520 PP17L || <!--Chipset--> * 64bit rev A01, A02 945GM Core2 Duo 1.83Ghz to 2.3Ghz * 32bit rev A00, A01 940GML Solo later Duo T2400 | <!--IDE-->{{yes|DVD-ROM Rev00 Philips SDR089 - CDRW/DVDROM Philips CDD5263 or TEAC DW224EV - DVD+-RW Rev00 Optiarc AD-5540A or HL-DL-ST GSAT21N, rev01 TSSTcorp TS-L632D}} || {{Yes|bios sata set to ide mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 900 series 2D and OpenGL1 3D tunnel 210 gearbox 153 teapot 27}} || {{Yes|HD audio with STAC 9200 codec}} || {{Yes|Boots and detects USB2.0}} || {{Yes|Broadcom 4400}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4312 BCM4321 Dell 1390 / 1490 mini pcie - easy to replace with atheros 5k in base panel}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4 and 2.2 and AROS One usb 1.8 and grub boot add 'noacpi' || 2006 mostly 64bit 4:3 aspect ratio 14.1 (XGA 1024x768) or later 15 inches (XGA+ 1400 by 1050) - F2 enter bios F12 choose boot - 19.5v dell tip pa-12 charger - bios coin cell cr2032 battery socketed in base panel - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D620 (Compal LA-2792) PP18L || <!--Chipset-->945GMS * rev A00 all Core Duo's 32 bit * rev A0x all Core 2 Duo's 64 bit | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 950 (2D and 3D tunnel gearbox opengl1 || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio playback}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 3945 mini pcie swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->AspireOS Xenon || <!--Opinion-->2006 64bit AROS capable with later revisions - 14" 1280 x 800 |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D620 || <!--Chipset-->Intel i945 * revA00 all Core Duo's 32 bit * revA01 all Core 2 Duo's 64 bit | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia 7300, 7600 NVS 110M G72 || <!--Audio-->{{dunno|HD Audio with STAC 9200 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless--> {{dunno}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2007 1440x900 screen - LA-2792P Rev.2.0 - DT785 UC218 Fan/ Heatsink (64bit) - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D820 (Quanta JM6) || <!--Chipset-->945GMS 940GML * rev A00 * rev A01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 2D and 3D tunnel 195 - 100? gearbox 156}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with STAC 9200 playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|BCM4310 replace with mini pcie atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Opinion-->2007 widescreen 15 inch 1280 x 800 matte - - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D820 (Quanta JM) || <!--Chipset-->945GMS 940GML * revA00 * revA01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Nvidia NVS 110M 120M G72}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio STAC 9200}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|BCM4310 swap with Atheros 5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2007 64bit 15.4 1650x1050 WXGA or WSXGA+ or 1920x1200 WUXGA - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Latitude D531 15" || <!--Chipset-->AMD Turion X2 TL56 or TL60 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA - ATi xpress X1270}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with IDT codec || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 57xx}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 or Dell Wireless 1390, 1505 or BCM4311 mini pcie || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit possible - no trackpoint - fails and goes wrong often - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D430 PP09S || <!--Chipset-->945 with Core2 Duo C2D U7500 1.06GHz U7600 1.2GHz U7700 1.33GHz * rev A00 * rev A01 * rev A02 | <!--IDE-->ZIF PATA IDE 1.8inch under battery and ribbon cable - slow use USB instead || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|945GML 2D and 3D opengl 1.x 171 tunnel 105 gearbox}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|STAC 92xx HD Audio speaker and ear phone - mono speaker}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|3 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 4965 AGN or 3945 ABG mini pci-e underside with Atheros 5k mini pci-e}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aspire 1.8 || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit capable - sd card not supported - 19.5v PA12 power adapter - 12.1" 1280x800 matte - f2 setup f5 diagnostics f12 boot list - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D530 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 + ICH8 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|nVidia Quadro NVS 135M 2D 3d glitches G86}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.5 || <!--Comments-->2007 [http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=6481 ] cool air intake from underneath needed with pa-10 or pa-3e 90w psu required - standard 4:3 ratio aspect screen - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D630 (Compal LA-3301P) PP18L || <!--Chipset-->GM965 + ICH8 T7250 2.0Ghz T7300 * revA00 * revA01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA X3100 (2D only, no external monitor)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio STAC 9205 but speaker and head phones}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB 2.0}}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom BCM4312 swap with pci-e Atheros 5k under keyboard}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit possible - F12 to choose boot option - 2 ddr2 sodimm max 4G - 4400mah 48Wh battery lasts 2 hours - 6600mah 73Wh lasts just over 3 hours |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D630 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 + ICH8 * revA00 [http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=6481 ] GPU heatpad, no copper * revA01 0DT785 heatsink | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|use VESA as nVidia NVS 135M 3d corrupts 0.7 tunnel 0.25 gearbox G86}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG swap with Atheros 5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.5 || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D830 || <!--Chipset-->965GM with Core2 * revA00 * revA01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GM965 crestline 2d and 3d tunnel 115}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|replace with Atheros 5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros || <!--Comments-->2007 15 inch 1280 x 900 but updating the LCD to WXGA or WSXGA+ could be better - 2 ddr2 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D830 || <!--Chipset-->ICH8, Core2 DUO T7800 @ 2.60GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Intel ICH8M Serial ATA || <!--Gfx-->nVidia Quadro NVS 140M G86 || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with STAC 92XX codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit || <!--Wireless-->Intel Wireless 4965AGN swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.03 || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit 15." - FN,F2 or FN,F8 or FN,F12 |- | <!--Name-->XPS M1330 M1530 M1730 - WISTRON Hawke || <!--Chipset-->965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{No|Intel 965 with either Nvidia 8400M 8600M 8700M or 8800GT G84 G86}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio STAC 9228 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom or Marvell 88E8040 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro-->ICAROS 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit Did not boot |- | <!--Name-->Precision M2300 M4300 M6300 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|use VESA nVidia Quadro FX 360M (8400GS) 3600M 3500M 2500M G86 to G92}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG 4965 swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2007 14" 15.6" 17" |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 1310 1510 (Compal LA-4592P) 1710 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo T7600 or Celeron 540 GMA965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GM965 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC268 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 4965 swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit Celeron 540 added 64 bit support (doubling transistor count) |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 1320 1520 (Compal LA-4592P) 1720 (Compal LA-4671P) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 965 || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC268 or IDT 92HD8X codec || <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4312 or Dell Wireless 1397}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 up to 17 inch with 13.3 inch WXGA Anti-Glare matt or glossy LED Display (1280 x 800) - |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 1320 1520 (Compal LA-4592P) 1720 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvdia 9300m to 9600M GS G96 || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC268 or IDT 92HD8X codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4312 swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 15.4” screen Vostro 1520 with excessive heat buildup on the left hand side palm rest |- | <!--Name-->Precision M2400 M4400 M6400 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA 2d for nVidia Quadro FX 770M G86}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2008 14" 15.6" 17" |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1525 PP29L || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo or Core2 Duo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT codec || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4312}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 32bit much later 64bit 15.4" 1200 x 800 - 19.5v dell psu - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1545 PP41L || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 4500MHD || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HD71B codec || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8040}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4312}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 15.6" |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E4200 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo U9400 U9300 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->64gig ssd with ribbon cable || <!--Gfx-->Intel GM45 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HD 71B7X codec || <!--USB--> NEC uPD720202 || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82567LM}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4322 or Intel’s 5100 or 5300}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64 - 12.1in 1,280 x 800 poor color accuracy magnesium alloy body - easily replaced keyboard - 1 ddr3 sodimm slot - Microdia cam - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E5400 E5500 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio but no sound}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM5761e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E4300 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core 2 Duo P9400 2.4GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 4500 MHD || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HDxxx || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82567LM || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel PRO Wireless 5300 AGN}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit - 13.3" WXGA - sd card Broadcom BCM5880 - |- | <!--Name-->Lattitude E6400 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo P9500 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel GMA 4500M HD 2D with NVIDIA QUADRO NVS 160M G98}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD with IDT 92HD71 codec or later 92HDM61}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom BCM4312 or Intel 5300 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 early ones problems with the keyboard ribbon cable connector, trackpoints were not good |- | <!--Name-->Latittude E4310 E5410 ATG || <!--Chipset-->Intel 5 series Intel Core i5 560M 1st gen || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA HD 5700 mhd || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with IDT 92HDxx Codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82577LM || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4313 too small 30x30 to swap}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64Bit clarkdale codename CPUs - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E6410 E6510 E6310 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core i7 620M i7 820QM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|NVidia NVS 3100M GT218 2D but 3D through external monitor}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio IDT 92HD81}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom or Intel 6200AGN or Link 6300}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3 || <!--Comments-->2010 64 bit |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron M5030 || <!--Chipset-->rev A01 AMD V120, V140 rev A0? V160 M880G || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA RS880M Radeon HD 4225, 4250}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with ALC269q codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8152 v2}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - DDR3 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1546 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 4330M 530v || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 91HD81 codec || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8103EL-GR || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - 15.6" - alps touchpad - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->XPS 15 15Z L501X L502X 17 17Z L701X L702X || <!--Chipset-->i7 840QM to i7 2630QM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel HD 3000 with Nvidia 555, 525M, 540M, 555M or 435M 420M GF108M optimus || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111e || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit first models not Sandybridge but later are - 17.3-inch 1600 × 900 to 15.6-inch - not many working now |- | <!--Name-->E6420 E6520 ATG semi ruggized XFR || <!--Chipset-->sandy bridge i5 2520M 2540M or duo I7 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->set to Bios UEFI mode AHCI || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel HD 3000 with optional fermi Nvidia NVS 4200M GF119}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with IDT 92HD90 BXX codec but not HDMI codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6205}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.03 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit 15.6in - fan exhausts a lot of hot air when cpu taxed - VGA if Bios ATA set and Vesa only with Bios ACHI set - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron M5040 || <!--Chipset-->slow amd E450, later C-50 C50 or C-60 C60 with A50M chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->non efi sata in IDE mode but base plastic difficult to remove for access || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA AMD Radeon 6320, 6250 or 6290}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio IDT}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8105E VB 10/100}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros AR9285 no space for swap}} || <!--Test Distro-->icaros 2.1.1 and AROS USB 1.6 || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit 15INCH 1388 X 768 - f2 bios setup, f12 boot order - under removable keyboard via 4 top spring loaded catches is 1 ddr3l sodimm max 8gb and wifi - |- | Latitude e6230 E6330 E6430 || i3 3320M 3350M 2.8 GHz i5 3360M i7 3520M || {{N/A}} || {{partial|non RAID mode}} || {{partial|Intel HD 4000 (VESA only)}} || {{no|HD Audio}} || {{partial|Intel USB 3.0 (USB 1.1 2.0 only)}} || {{No|Intel 82579LM Gigabit}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313}} || <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2014 09-27 || 2013 64bit Ivy Bridge - 12.5-inch 13.3-inch 14-inch screen - not great support, better under hosted - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 15 3521 5521 5721, Vostro 3555 || <!--Chipset-->i5 i7 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel HD 4000 or Radeon 8730M or 7670M || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC850 ?? || <!--USB-->USB 3.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E RTL8105E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros or Dell 1703 1704 1705}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.3 || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit AVX Panther Point Ivy Bridge Intel(R) 7 Series Mobile - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 15‑3541 15‑3542 P40F001 P40F002 || <!--Chipset-->AMD E1 2100 6010 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Partial|VESA 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{unk| }} || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit no AVX - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Inspiron 15 5565 5567 AMD versions || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9200u A9-9400 A12-9700P Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->Radeon R5 R8 GCN 3 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 1GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - there are i-intel versions - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Latitude 5495 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 2300U 2500U 2700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe and 2.5in || <!--Gfx-->Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek ALC3246 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14.0" FHD WVA 1080p (16:9) 220 nits or 14.0" HD (1366 x 768) - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 32gb - 19.5V 65W 90W - care needed with usbc charging - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 3505, Vostro 3515 || <!--Chipset-->athlon 300u, Ryzen 3250u (2c4t) 3450u 3500u 3700u (4c8t), Athlon Silver (2c2t) Gold (2c4t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for Vega 8, 10}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Realtek ALC3204, Cirrus Logic CS8409 (CS42L42 and SN005825)}} || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|RTL 8106E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8723DE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64-bit - 15.6inch - 2 ddr4 sodimm max 16G - avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 5485 2-in-1 || <!--Chipset-->athlon 300u, Ryzen 3250u (2c4t) 3450u 3500u 3700u (4c8t), Athlon Silver (2c2t) Gold (2c4t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for Vega 8, 10}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Realtek ALC3204}} || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8723DE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64-bit - 14inch - 2 ddr4 sodimm max 16G - avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Latitude 3500 3410 3510 5410 5510 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core i5 (8th Gen) 8265U, i5-10210U, CORE i5-10310U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{no|Intel UHD Graphics 620}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|Realtek ALC3204}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111H}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - Realtek LAN port for WD19/22 docks untested - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 5405 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 4500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->One M.2 2230/2280 nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek ALC3204 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14" 1080p - dell round ac - |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 5415, Inspiron 5515 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 5300U, Ryzen 5 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 14" or 15.6in - avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use or use dell round ac - replacing keyboard not easy - 1 ddr4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 3425, Vostro 3525, Vostro 5625 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 5425U, Ryzen 5 5625U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB4}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 14in 15.6" to 16" FHD 1080p - dell round ac or avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Inspiron 15 Model 3535, Inspiron 14 7435 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 7520U, AMD Ryzen 5 7530U, 7 7730U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{No| hdmi 1.4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with codec }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2024 64bit - 14.0" or 15.6" 1080p - dell round ac or usb-c charging - full sd card slot - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |} ====Fujitsu-Siemens==== [[#top|...to the top]] Order of build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Amilo Esprimo Lifebook </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu [http://www.labri.fr/perso/fleury/index.php?page=bug_transmeta FMV-Biblo Loox S73A (Japan P1100) LifeBook P1120 Biblo Loox T93C (Japan P2120) P2020] || <!--Chipset-->Transmeta Crusoe CPU TM5600 633MHz with Ali M1535 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->ATI Rage Mobility M with 4MB SDRAM || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 Ali M1535 + STAC9723 Codec}} || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 only || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1999 32bit 10" 1280 x 600 matte LCD - QuickPoint IV mouse - metal chassis with palm rest plastic - 15GB 2.5 inch drive and SR 8175 8X DVD-ROM drive - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook S7000 S7010 S7010D S2020 || <!--Chipset-->Pentium M 1.6 or 1.7GHz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - Intel 855}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|AC97 with STAC 9751T or 9767 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros, Broadcom or Intel 2200BG - FN,F10}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit 14.1 inch with minimal support |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook e8010 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Intel 855GM}} || <!--Audio-->AC97 STAC9767 or ALC203 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5705M}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3.1 || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit 15.1 inch |- | <!--Name-->Stylistic ST5000 ST5010 ST5011 ST5012 ST5020 ST5021 ST5022 || <!--Chipset-->1.0GHz P-M and later 1.1GHz on Intel 855GME || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 800 use VESA || <!--Audio-->Intel AC97 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5788 tg3 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200BG}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit charged via a proprietary port power connector 16V 3.75A with wacom serial pen interface - indoor Screen transmissive 10.1 and later 12.1 XGA TFT - |- | <!--Name-->Amilo Pro V2010 || <!--Chipset-->VIA CN400 PM880 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|S3 unichrome use VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|VIA AC97 VT8237 with codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Rhine 6102 6103 || <!--Wireless-->RaLink RT2500 || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit boot mount - unknown bootstrap error then crashes |- | <!--Name-->Amilo Li 1705 CN896 || <!--Chipset--> with VIA P4M900 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE}} || <!--Gfx-->ATi || <!--Audio-->{{No|VIA VT8237 HD Audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->VT82xx 62xx || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|VIA Rhine}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros G}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit random freezes |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> Esprimo Mobile V5535 Skt mPGA 478MN | <!--Chipset--> | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE and EIDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{maybe|IDE mode with SIS 5513}} | <!--Gfx--> {{maybe|SiS 771 / 671 (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|HD Audio SIS968 SIS966 SI7012 with ALC268 codec}} | <!--USB--> {{no|USB 1.1 and 2.0 issues}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|SiS 191 gigabit}} | <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros AR5001 mini pci express}} | <!--Test Distro-->aros one 1.5 usb | <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 20v barrel - f2 setup f12 multi boot - random freezing short time after booting - chipset SIS 671MX - |- | <!--Name-->Amilo SI 1520 1521p || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio Conexant codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Intel Pro 100}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.2 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit - Set Bios option ATA Control Mode to Compatible |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook S7020 S7020D || <!--Chipset--> Pentium M 740 1.73MHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 915 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC260 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5751M Gigabit || <!--Wireless-->Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG or Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Stylistic ST5030 ST5031 ST5032 || <!--Chipset-->1 to 1.2GHx Pentium M with 915GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 900 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Marvell || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit charged via a proprietary port power connector 6.0 x 4.4 mm round - 200 pin ddr2 ram |- | <!--Name-->Stylistic ST5110 ST5111 ST5112 || <!--Chipset-->945GM with 1.2GHz Core Duo and Core2 Duo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 900 || <!--Audio-->HD audio with STAC9228 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 ABG or optional atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 either 32 or 64 bit - charged via a proprietary port power connector 6.0 x 4.4 mm round - SigmaTel® touchscreen - |- | <!--Name-->E8110 S7110 E8210 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|945GM}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC262 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8055 Gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit Core Duo |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || CHIPSET || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook PH521 || <!--Chipset-->AMD E-350 E-450 1.65GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->HD 6310M 6320M || <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC269 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 802.11 bgn}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6 inch 1366x768 pixels - DDR3 1066MHz - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====HP Compaq==== [[#top|...to the top]] Build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Presario Pavilion Omnibook ProBook Armada Elitebook </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->1c00 series Compaq Presario [http://users.utu.fi/sjsepp/linuxcompaqarmada100s.html Armada 100S made by Mitac], 1247 || <!--Chipset-->K6-II with PE133 MVP-4 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA - Trident Blade3D AGP sp16953 || <!--Audio-->VIA ac'97 audio [rev20] with AD1881A codec || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|usual VIA issues [rev10]}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit 192MB max - PCcard Texas PC1211 no support - 1200 XL1 1200-XL1xx, XL101, XL103 XL105 XL106 XL109 XL110 XL111 XL116 XL118 XL119 XL125 |- | <!--Name-->1c01 series Armada 110, Evo N150 || <!--Chipset-->Intel with VIA PLE133 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - Trident Cyber Blade i1 chipset || <!--Audio-->VIA 686 rev20 82xxx 686a || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82557 Pro 100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit max 192mb sodimm 100Mhz 133Mhz ram memory - 1200-XL405A 12XL405A XL502A 12XL502A 1600XL |- | Armada M300 M700 E500 || 440BX || {{Yes| }} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|ATI Rage LT M1 Mobility (VESA only)}} || {{no|AC97 ESS Maestro 2E M2E ES1987 sound}} || {{yes|USB1.1 only}} || {{No|[http://perho.org/stuff/m300/index_en.html Intel PRO 100+ Mini PCI]}} || {{N/A}} || Aspire OS 2012, Nightly 30-01 2013 and 04-05 2013 || 1999 32bit - F10 bios options and Fn+F11 reset CMOS with 64mb ram already on board |- | <!--Name-->HP Omnibook XE3 || <!--Chipset-->Intel BX 600Mhz GC model 256mb or AMD GD 500Mhz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - S3 Inc. 86C270 294 Savage IX-MV (rev 11) || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1988 Allegro 1 (rev 12)}} || <!--USB-->Intel 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit no cardbus pcmcia support - no audio from Polk Audio Speakers - |- | <!--Name-->HP Omnibook XE3 || <!--Chipset-->82830 ICH3 P3-M 750MHz 800Mhz 900MHz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - CGC 830MG}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1988 Maestro 3i}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|only one 1.1 port}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|e100 82557}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A|}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.51 || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit Boots USB Stick via Plop boot floppy - Memory for GF 256-512mb, GS up 1GB |- | <!--Name-->TC1000 TC-1000 Tablet PC || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA NV11 [GeForce2 Go] (rev b2) || <!--Audio-->VIA AC97 Audio (rev 50) || <!--USB-->OHCI NEC USB 2.0 (rev 02) || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82551 QM (rev 10) || <!--Wireless-->Atmel at76c506 802.11b || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit Transmeta LongRun (rev 03) with VT82C686 - Texas Instruments TI PCI1520 PC card Cardbus |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq R3000 ZV5000 (Compal LA-1851) || <!--Chipset-->Nvidia nForce 3 with AMD CPU || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia NV17 [GeForce4 420 Go 32M] || <!--Audio-->Nvidia || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom or Realtek RTL8139 || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4303 BCM4306 or Atheros bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - HPs have a setting to automatically disable wireless if a wired connection is detected |- | <!--Name-->Compaq [http://www.walterswebsite.us/drivers.htm Presario 700 series] || <!--Chipset-->VT8363 VT8365 [Apollo Pro KT133 KM133] || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VT8636A (S3 Savage TwisterK) (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|VIA AC97 [rev50] with AD1886 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|VIA UHCI USB 1.1 [rev1a]}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RealTek RTL8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom BCM4306}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit poor consumer grade level construction - jbl audio pro speakers - no support for cardbus pcmcia TI PCI1410 - 700A EA LA UK US Z 701AP EA BR FR 701Z 702US 703US AP JP audio sp18895 Sp19472 |- |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | N400c || P3-M 82845 || {{yes|82801 CAM IDE U100}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Rage Mobility 128 (VESA only)}} || {{No|Maestro 3 allegro 1}} || {{yes|USB1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VM (KM)}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit Has no optical disc drive |- | N410c || P3-M 82845 || {{yes|82801 CAM IDE U100}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Radeon Mobility M7 LW 7500 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|Intel AC97 with AD1886 codec}} || {{yes|USB1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VM (KM)}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit Has no optical disc drive |- | Evo N600c || Pentium 4 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI Radeon Mobility M7 (VESA only)}} || {{No|ESS ES1968 Maestro 2}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2003 32bit |- | Evo N610c || Pentium 4 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI Radeon Mobility M7 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|Intel ICH AC97 with AD1886 codec}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || |- | N800c || P4 || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit P4M CPU can get very warm |- | <!--Name-->NX7010 || <!--Chipset-->Intel || <!--IDE-->{{yes|IDE}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|ATI mobility 7500 or 9000 Radeon 9200 64MB (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 ADI codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|uhci (1.1) and ehci (2.0)}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200b bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Preasrio V5000 (Compal LA-2771) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Sempron 3000+ or Turion ML with SB400 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - Ati RS480M Xpress 200}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 ATI with Conexant CX 20468 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8100 8101L 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|bcm4318 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2004 64bit single core machine V5001 V5002 V5002EA V5003 |- | <!--Name-->TC1100 TC-1100 Tablet PC || <!--Chipset-->855PM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia Geforce4 Go || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|BCM 4400}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros wlan W400 W500 or ? bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit |- | <!--Name-->NC6000 NC8000 NW8000 || <!--Chipset-->855PM with Pentium M 1.5 1.6 1.8GHz 2.0GHz || <!--IDE-->max 160 GB for NW 8000 || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Ati RV350 mobility 9600 M10 Fire GL T2 ISV use VESA 2D as no laptop display}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel AC97 with ADI codec playback only}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|2 ports}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM 5705M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|mini pci Atheros 5212 BG W400 W500 or Intel - all bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 based [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=41916&forum=47 works] - Firewire TI TSB43AB22/A - 8 pound 2.5 kg travel weight - an SD slot as well as two PC Card slots - 15-inch UXGA screen (1,600 x 1,200) or 15" SXGA+ (1400 x 1050) (4:3 ratio) |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Compaq NC6110 NX6110 NC6120 NC6220 NC4200 NC8200 TC4200 || <!--Chipset-->GMA 915GML || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D GMA 900}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 with ADI AD1981B playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|440x or BCM 5705M or 5751M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel IPW 2200 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5.2 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit Sonoma based - Wifi with Atheros AR5007eg if apply hacked bios RISKY else use USB one - (INVENTEC ASPEN UMA MV) (INVENTEC ASPEN DIS PV) - |- | <!--Name-->Compaq C500 CTO aka HP G7000 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 945GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with realtek ALC262 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom BCM 4311 bios locked || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->HP DV6000 || <!--Chipset-->945GMS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HD 91B || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel PRO 100 VE || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32 bit only - Mosfet FDS6679 common cause of shorts giving no power to the tip. To reset adapter, unplug from AC (mains) and wait 15-30 sec. Then plug in again - |- | Presario F700 series, HP G6000 f730us F750 F750us F755US F756NR F765em || AMD Turion Mono MK-36 2.0Ghz NForce 560m or Twin X2 TK-55 with nForce 610m MCP67 || {{N/A| }} || {{Yes|but needs special sata adapt bit and caddy}} || {{Yes|GF Go 7000m 2D and 3D 640x350 to 1280x800 - ball solder issues due to poor cooling}} || {{Maybe| }} || {{Maybe|uhci and ehci boots}} || {{No|Nvidia }} || {{Yes|Atheros AR5007 bios locked}} || Icaros 1.3.1 and Aros One 1.6 USB || 2006 64bit - f9 boot device f10 bios setup - random freezes after a minutes use means internal ventilation maintenance needed each year essential - No sd card and overall limited phoenix bios options - |- | <!--Name-->Presario v6604au v6608au V3500 || <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA MCP67M with AMD Athlon64 X2 TK 55 amd 1.8ghz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|SATA 150}} || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA GeForce Go 7150M 630i or C67 630M MCP67 || <!--Audio-->conexant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia or Realtek 10/100 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4311 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit Altec Lansing Stereo Speakers - ball solder issues - |- | <!--Name-->Compaq presario v6610 v6615eo v6620us || <!--Chipset-->Turion 64 X2 mobile TK-55 / 1.8 GHz to athlon 64x2 @ 2.4ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|SATA 150}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|geforce 7150 or 7300m 2d and 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AMD HD Audio with IDT codec stereo playback only}} || <!--USB-->3 OHCI EHCI || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3 - || <!--Comments-->2007 [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=40956&forum=48 works well] - 1 x ExpressCard/54 - SD Card slot - AO4407 test voltage of the Drain side (pins 5-8) with AC adapter and no battery, see 0 volts, connect the battery you should have 10-14v - |- | <!--Name-->v6630em v6642em || <!--Chipset-->nForce 630M with AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-58 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA GeForce 6150M or 7150M || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit 15.4 in 1280 x 800 ( WXGA ) - |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq NC6400 || <!--Chipset-->945GM Core Duo || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|GMA 950 2D issues and no 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio AD1981HD}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros || <!--Comments-->2007 - replaced with Atheros AR5007eg if apply hacked bios RISKY else use USB g - * 32bit Core Duo T2400 * 64bit Core 2 Duo T5600 T7600 |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq NV NC6400 || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo + 945PM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Radeon x1300M (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with ADI1981 low volume}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|BCM 5753M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 ABG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.4.2 || <!--Opinion-->2007 Harmon Kardon speakers |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq NC6320 || <!--Chipset-->945GM with * 32bit Core Duo 1.83GHz T2400 * 64bit Core2 Duo 1.83GHz T5600 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 950 2D with a little 3D tunnel 213}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD Audio with AD1981HD codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM 5788}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2 || <!--Comments-->2007 replaced with Atheros AR5007eg if applying hacked wifi bios RISKY!! else use USB - 14.1" or 15 inch XGA 1024x768 - noisy cpu fan for core2 - trackpad rhs acts as window scroller - |- | <!--Name-->HP NC4400 TC4400 Tablet || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo with 82945 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|bios F.07 limits to 100GB 120GB}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|2D and 3D 282 tunnel and gearbox 150}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ADI 1981HD codec via ear phones}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM 5753M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 or BCM 4306 - Whitelist BIOS F.0C needed but risky}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->2008 64 bit possible with Core2 - TI SD card reader non bootable - wacom serial digitiser pen not working - * 32bit 1.86GHz core duo * 64bit 2Ghz T7200, 2.16Ghz Core 2 Duo T7600 2.33GHz |- | <!--Name-->HP Pavilion DV2000 CTO || <!--Chipset-->945GMS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950, X3100, Nvidia 8400M || <!--Audio-->HD Audio Conexant CX 20549 Venice || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia MCP51 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM 4311 or Intel 3945 4965 ABG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 Atheros AR5007eg if apply hacked bios RISKY |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Presario C700 || <!--Chipset-->GMA960 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->X3100 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139 || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros AR5007 AR5001 AR242x}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 |- | <!--Name-->Compaq 2510p 6510b 6710b 6910b || <!--Chipset-->GMA 965GM GL960 || <!--IDE-->{{yes| || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|X3100 some 2d but slow software 3d only}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio ADI AD1981 HD low volume on head phones}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82566 or Broadcom BCM 5787M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945ABG or 4965ABG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aspire OS Xenon 2014 || <!--Comments-->2008 no sd card boot support - F9 to choose boot option - [http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/7681-This-is-no-request-thread!-HP-COMPAQ-bioses-how-to-modify-the-bios/page111?p=333358#post333358 whitelist removal (risky) bios block for wifi card swap] |- | <!--Name-->CQ40 CQ41 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BC4310 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Presario CQ35 CQ36 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4312 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 Compal LA-4743P - |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq CQ42 CQ43 CQ45 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Coxenant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8191SE, Realtek 8188CE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 (Quanta AX1) |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Presario CQ50 CQ56 || <!--Chipset-->Nvidia MCP78S || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Geforce 8200M || <!--Audio-->nVidia HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->nvidia MCP77 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR928X bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 [http://donovan6000.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/insyde-bios-modding-wifi-and-wwan-whitelists.html bios modding risky] MCP72XE MCP72P MCP78U MCP78S |- | <!--Name-->HP Pavilion dv4 dv4z(AMD), dv5 (dv5z AMD), dv7 (dv7z AMD) || <!--Chipset-->QL-60, QL-62 (AMD Turion 64 X2) RM-70, RM-72, ZM-80, ZM-84, (AMD Turion II) M520 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->HD 3200 3450 4530 4550 4650 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit - 14.1" dv4, dv5 features a 15.4" and the HP Pavilion dv7 a 17" display |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->CQ57z || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD E-300 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA ATi HD 6310 wrestler}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101 RTL8102 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RaLink RT5390}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->HP CQ58z 103SA E5K15EA || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD Dual-Core E1-1500 APU with A68M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Radeon HD 7310}} || <!--Audio-->Realtek idt codec || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 10/100 BASE-T}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 39.6 cm (15.6") HD BrightView LED-backlit (1366 x 768) |- | <!--Name-->HP 635 DM1 || <!--Chipset-->Slow E-300, E-450 later E2-1800 on SB7x0 SB8x0 SB9x0 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->ATI non efi SATA AHCI - IDE mode || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA 2D - AMD HD6310, 6320 to HD7340}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ALC270A GR but not Wrestler HDMI Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 driver covers Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 14" 1366 x 768 - f9 f10 - external battery - 2 stacked ddr3l sodimm slots max 16Gb under one base plate - removable keyboard - |- | <!--Name-->HP G6 2000-2b10NR 2000-2d10SX 2000-2d80NR || <!--Chipset-->E1-2000 E2-3000M on A50M (soldered) A4-3305A on A60M (socket) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Radeon 6320, 6620G, 6520G, 6480G, 6380G}} || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 100 1000 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 39.6-cm (15.6-in) HD LED BrightView (1366×768) - 1 or 2 ddr3l max 8G - 19VDC 3.42A Max 65W Tip 7.4mm x 5.0mm - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 6465B || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-3310MX or A6-3410MX with A60M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD 6480G or 6520G}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|IDT 92HD81B1X}} || <!--USB--> USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel AC 6205 or broadcom 4313 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 13-inch or 14-inch runs hot - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 8470p 8570p || <!--Chipset-->Quad i7-3840QM to i7-3610QM, Dual i7-3520M to i5-3210M, Core i3-3130M to i3-2370M on Mobile Intel QM77 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|set the bios boot options to not fastboot and drive mode IDE rather than AHCI }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d for HD4000 with some having switchable Radeon M2000 or 7570M}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio for IDT codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82579LM }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel, Broadcom, Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro-->64 bit boots from CD* if safe mode 2 is used, although it is possible to remove the 'nodma' and 'debug' entries and boot || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit with SSE4.1 and AVX - 14in 1600 x 900 to 1366 x 768 - 2 DDR3L sodimm slots max 16Gb - TPM 1.2 - dual boot 32/64 bit is working fine - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 6475b, Probook 4445s 4545s, HP Pavilion 15-b115sa, [https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c04015674#AbT6 HP mt41 Mobile Thin Client PC] || <!--Chipset-->AMD A4 4300M, A6 4400M 4455M or A8 4500M with AMD A70M A76M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 7420 7520G 7640G 7660G}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with idt or realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek RTL8151FH-CG}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6205 or Broadcom BCM 43228 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6-inch - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 455 G1 F2P93UT#ABA, 645 G1, Envy 15-j151ea G7V80EA, Envy m6-1310sa (E4R01EA#ABU) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Quad A4-4300M A8-4500M A10-4600M A4-5150M A6-5350M 2.9Ghz A10-5750M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 7420G 7520G 7640G 7660G 8350G 8450G or 8550G, 8650G, 8750G }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio IDT 92HD91 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 14in and 15in 1366 x 768 - external battery - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - 19.5v / 4.62A psu runs hot - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 245 G4, 255 G1, 255 G2, 455 G2, 255 G3, 455 G3, 255 G4 80CB, 255 G5 82F6, 355 G2, HP Pavilion 15-p038na 15-g092sa 15-p091sa 15-G094S 15-p144na 15-p142na, 15-Af156sa || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD A4-5000 A6-5200, E2-6110, E1-6010 E2-2000, E1-2100 E2-3800, A4-6210 A6-6310 A8-6410, E2-7110, A6-7310 A8-7410 APU || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata some with cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R2 R4 R5}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC3201-GR || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8102E or Atheros 1GbE || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros AR9565}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit most have SSE4 AVX but E2-2000 does not - 15.6-inch (1366 x 768) - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - small 31Whr or 41Whr external battery covers 240 G4, 245 G4, 250 G4, 255 G4, 256 G4, 14G, 15G - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 645 g2, Probook 445 G2, Probook 245 G2 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-8600 A8-8700 a10- || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Radeon R5 R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel I219V 100/1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel or Qualcomm Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 14in and 15.6-inch HD (1366 x 768) or FHD 1080p - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots max 16GB - internal battery - hp ac psu tip - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 725 G2, 745 G2, 755 G2 || <!--Chipset-->Amd Quad A6-7050B A8-7150B 1.9GHz A10-7350B || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA on AMD R4 R5 Radeon R6 with DP and vga}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD audio with IDT 92HD91}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 PCIe GBE || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom or Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 12.5-inch, 14" or 15.6in (all 1366 x 768) - 19.5V 65w 45W AC adapter - internal pull up tab battery under base which slides off - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - keyboard swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->HP Probook 455 G3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-8700P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Radeon R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->1GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 725 G3, 745 G3, 755 G3, 725 G4, 745 G4, 755 G4, HP mt43 || <!--Chipset-->Amd A8-8600B, A10-8700B, A12-8800B to Quad A8 Pro 9600B to A10 9800 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA on AMD R5 R6 R7 with DP and vga but screen is low res, dull colours, and blurry}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD audio with IDT codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 5762 PCIe GBE}} || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8723BE-VB || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - 12.5-inch (1366 x 768) to 14" and 15.6in - 2 sodimm ddr3 - 19.5V 45W AC slim 4.5mm hp adapter - randomly shuts down and the noisy fans constantly on - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 645 G3, 655 G3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD 8th Gen A10-8730B, A8-9600B (4c4t) A6-8530B (2c2t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for AMD R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111HSH || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel or Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->HP Probook 455 G4, Probook 455 G5, || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-9600P APU, A9-9410, A6-9210 APU || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R4, R5 or R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 1GbE || <!--Wireless-->realtek or intel Wireless-AC 7265 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit 15.6in 1366 x 768 - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 645 G6, 255 G6, 255 G7 - 31Whr external battery covers HP all G6 and HP 14-BS, HP 14-BW, HP 15-BS || <!--Chipset-->AMD E2-9000e, A9-9420, 9220P, 9125 (all 2c) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata 2.5in and M.2, no cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for R2 R3 R4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RTL8188CTV, RTL8821CE or Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 3168}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - 19V 65W - DDR4 slot max 8Gb - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ProBook 245 g8 || <!--Chipset-->Range all dual cores - AMD A6-9225 APU, AMD A4-9125 APU, AMD PRO A6-8350B APU, AMD PRO A4-5350B APU || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R4 R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - many variants - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Pavilion 15z bw0xxx, 15-bw024na 15-ba506na, 15-bw060na 15-DB0521SA, HP Envy x360 15-ar052sa 2 in 1, || <!--Chipset-->AMD A9-9420 2c 2t, A10-9620p 4c4t 9700p 7th Gen Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R5 GCN 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 15.6in 768p or 1080p - internal battery - 19.5V 2.31A hp plug - 1 DDR4-1866 SDRAM sodimm slot - keyboard swap problematic - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteBook 725 G5, 735 G5, 745 G5, 755 G5, Probook 455 G6, 255 G7 7DE73EA || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 2200U 2300U (2c t), R5 2500U, R7 2700U (4c8t) Raven Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 Sata or NVMe and/or 2.5in sata if detachable ribbon cable present, no cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for AMD Vega 3, 6, or 8}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ALC236 0x10ec0236 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek or rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8821CE, 8822BE or Intel AC 8265 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - 12.5 to 15.6in up to 1080p - internal battery - 1 on smaller laptops or 2 ddr4 sodimm slots on larger laptops max 16Gb - usb-c charging care needed - keyboard swap problematic - esc bios setup f9 boot order - |- | <!--Name-->HP Envy x360 15-bq150sa, Envy x360 covertible 13 13-ag0xxx HP Envy x360 15-cp0xxx Ryzen 2500u || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 and Sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ?, ?, ALC295 0x10ec0295 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|realtek, none on 13in}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 13 or 15.6in 1080p - hp barrel or usb-c on 13in - ddr4 - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP 14-cm, 15-bw0, HP 15-db0043na, HP 15-db0996na, HP 15-db0997na, 17-ca0007na, 17-ca1, ProBook 645 G4 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 2200U (2c 4t) 2500U (4c 8t) with AMD Carrizo FCH 51 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 and 1 2.5in on some larger models || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R5 and later Vega 3 or 7}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Realtek ALC3227 and ATI HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|USB3 USB boot drive stuck on kitty's eyes}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RTL 8723DE 8821 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 USB || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit 2kg - screen is dim 14in, 15.6in or 17.3" 768p, later 1080p - 65W 19.5V ac adapter - internal 3-cell 41 Wh Li-ion battery does not last long - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - no DVD-Writer - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->[https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c06955717 ProBook 245 g8], Probook 445R G6, 455R G6, HP 255 G7 7DC73EA 2D200EA, HP14-dk0599sa, pavilion 15-cw1511na 15-cw1507sa || <!--Chipset-->Range mostly dual cores - AMD Athlon Gold 3150U (2c 2t), Silver 3050U APU (2c 2t), Pro 3145U APU to 3200U (2c 4t) and 3500U (4c 8t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 NVMe 2280 but usually no 2.5in mountings, no cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3, 6 or 8 with up to 2gb ram taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with realtek ALC236 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 but no usb-c}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE RTL8111HSH || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek 8822BE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in / 15.6in dim panel 768p or 1080p - one heatpipe for cpu - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 16gb - 65 W Smart AC adapter, right angle, 4.5 mm or usb-c - keyboard swap problematic - cd-rw dvd-rw - plastic build - |- | <!--Name-->Elitebook 735 G6 5VA23AV, Elitebook 745 G6, 255 g8 || <!--Chipset-->AMD® Ryzen™ 5-3500U Ryzen 3-3300U AMD Ryzen 3-3250U AMD Athlon® Gold 3150U AMD Athlon Silver 3050U AMD 3020e || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|m.2 2280 nvme in legacy - hp sure start and secure boot disabled but still issues with gpt installs}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Vega 8, 5 or 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 6.34 ahi with realtek codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 type-A port boots stick partially to kitty eyes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169 realtek RTL8111E or 8111H}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|realtek or intel}} || <!--Test Distro-->{{No|Icaros 2.3 onto USB and AROS One 1.8 and 2.0 USB}} || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 1366x768 to 1920x1080 - 2 3200MHz DDR4 sodimms - 19.5V 2.31A or 20V 2.25 45W 4.5X3.0MM hp - esc bios setup, f9 boot device select - low travel keyboard - poor battery life - plastic hooked base with retained screws - elan touchpad? - |- | <!--Name-->Envy x360 13 laptop 13-ay0008na and 13 and 15.6' 2 in 1 convertible || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R5 4500U with carrizo FCH51 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega 6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel or Realtek wifi 6 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit 13.3in or 15.6in IPS 1080p - ram soldered - touch pen not supplied - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 445 G7, 455 G7 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 4300U 5 4500U 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 sata and 1 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with realtek alc236 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl169 realtek rtl8111ep || <!--Wireless-->{{No|realtek RTL8822CE or intel AC 9260 or Wi-Fi 6 AX200}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14 inch 768p or 1080p - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - smart 45w 65w hp or usb-c charging avoid damage - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteBook 745 G7, 845 G7, HP 15-EH0006NA || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 4300U, 5 4500U, PRO 4650U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->SSD M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Radeon Vega 8}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - Bang & Olufsen speakers - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 255 G8, HP 245 G9 Laptop || <!--Chipset-->AMD RYZEN 3 5425U, 5 5500U 5625U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega 6 or 8 hdmi 1.4B}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 1GBe}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8822CE or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 14" to 15.6in 1366 x 768 to 1080p poor gamut - 45 or 65w hp psu - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 16GB - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteBook 645 g7, 835 G8, 845 g8, HP ENVY x360 13 15 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 5650U, 7 5800U, R7 Pro 5850U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD Radeon}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 1Gbe on 645 only}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 13.3" or 14" 1080p - poor screens low nits and srgb score - 845 gets hot ue to poor cooling - slim round hp ac - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP Dev One, HP ProBook 455 G8 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, R7 5850U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 15.6" 1080p - 2 internal sodimm slots - hp barrel charging - |- | <!--Name-->HP probook 635 Aero G8 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 5600U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2921 64bit - 14in 1080p - 2 ddr4 slots - ec chip nuvoton NPCX797HA1B - bios winbond 250256JYEN - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 845 g9 || <!--Chipset-->aMD 6000 series 6850u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 680m}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB4 thunderbolt type}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Qualcomm Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit aluminum case - 14in 1080p to 2140p 16:10 poor screen again - 2 internal ddr5 sodimm slots - usb-c ac charging avoid any knocks - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 445 G10, 455 G10 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 7530U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no| }} || <!--USB-->{{no| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6in - hp round ac - |- | <!--Name-->HP ZBook Firefly 14" G11 Mobile Workstation, G11 QHD DreamColour Mobile Workstation || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen™ 7 8840HS, AMD Ryzen™ 9 8945HS || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2024 64bit - 35.6 cm (14") diagonal, WUXGA (1920 x 1200), IPS, anti-glare, 400 nits, 100% sRGB - 2 ddr5 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->HP ZBook Ultra G1a || <!--Chipset-->AMD AI Max Pro 390 12 Core, 395 16 Core || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD GPU || <!--Audio-->HDaudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - 14" Touch OLED 120Hz - 2 ddr 5 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->HP Envy 16" x360 (16-ad0007na) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen™ 7 8840HS, || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - 16GB, Touchscreen - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====IBM/Lenovo==== [[#top|...to the top]] Build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > iSeries Edge Ideapad Thinkpad - good cases and construction but electronic internals same as anyone else </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad 390X 390E (2626) || <!--Chipset-->Neo Magic MM2200 with C400 P2-266 to P3 500MHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA || <!--Audio-->{{No|256AV or ESS Solo-1}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad 600x || <!--Chipset-->Intel 440BX || <!--IDE-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Neomagic NM2360 MagicMedia 256ZX}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Crystal CS4297A codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3.1 || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit a little support - earlier 600 and 600e were Pentium 2 based |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X20 (2662-32U) X21 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 440 BX ZX DX || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 with Cirrus Logic Crystal cs4281}} || <!--USB-->1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->no mini pci intel e100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit |- | Thinkpad T20 (2647) T21 (26) T22 || 440BX || {{Maybe| }} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|Savage IX-MV (VESA only)}} || {{no|Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/ 24/30}} || {{yes|USB 1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2002 32bit |- | <!--Name-->A21e (2628, 2655) A22e || <!--Chipset-->440MX || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Ati rage mobility || <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 Cs4299 CS4229}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->intel e100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 |- | Thinkpad T23 (2647) || i810 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|S3 Super Savage IX/C SDR (VESA only)}} || {{maybe|AC'97 CS4299}} || {{yes|USB 1.1}} || {{yes|Intel ICH3 PRO 100 VE}} || {{no|Realtek RTL8180L others with bios hacking risky}} || || 2003 32bit with some support |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X22 X23 X24 || <!--Chipset-->830 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATi Mobility M6 LY || <!--Audio-->Ac97 CS4299 || <!--USB-->2 x 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->Intel Pro 100 || <!--Wireless-->Actiontec Harris Semi Intersil Prism 2.5 (X23 and X24 only) || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit with slice Ultrabase X2 - |- | <!--Name-->A30 A30p || <!--Chipset-->830 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Ati Radeon M6 || <!--Audio-->AC97 CS 4299 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel Pro 100 ve || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->A31 A31p R31 R32 T30 || <!--Chipset-->830 || <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Gfx-->Ati Radeon 7500 or FireGL || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 Intel with AD1881A codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes| Intel Pro 100 ve}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->[https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Android-Ecosystem-Developers/AROS-An-operation-system-inside-Android/td-p/1441741 Icaros 1.5.2] || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit Also tested with Icaros 2.0.3. |- | Thinkpad X30 (2673) X31 (2884-xx2) X31t || i830 || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA only Radeon M6 Mobility}} || {{yes|AC97 - AD1981B codec}} || {{yes|USB 1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{no|Cisco Aironet or Intel 2915 but atheros with bios hacking}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2004 32bit sound bit distorted |- | <!--Name-->R50e R51 || <!--Chipset-->855M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel 855M use VESA}} || <!--Audio-->intel AC97 with AD1981B codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Intel 100 VE}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - |- | IBM Thinkpad T40 (2373) T41 T41p (2379) T42 T42p T43 T43p || Intel 8xx || {{partial|PIO}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI mobility 7500 9000 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97 playback}} || {{yes|uhci 1.1 and ehci 2.0}} || {{no|e1000}} || {{Maybe|Intel 2200bg bios locked but possible AR5BMB-44 AR5212 FRU 39T0081 mini PCI}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2004 32bit 16v IBM plug - Centrino Needs ATA=nodma option - issues with the inner chip of the SMT BGA graphics chip |- | Thinkpad X32 || i855 || {{yes|40, 60 or 80GB 2.5" PATA HDD}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA only ATI Mobility Radeon 7000 with 16MB}} || {{maybe| Intel AC'97 Audio with a AD1981B codec}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Intel 1000}} || {{no|Intel 2200 but atheros with bios hacking}} || Icaros 2.1 || 2004 32bit - 12.1" TFT display with 1024x768 resolution; 256 or 512MB PC2700 memory standard (2GB max) |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X40 X40t by Quanta || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel 800 (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel e1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel but most atheros with bios hacking - difficult though}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit last IBM design |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X41 (IBM) MT 1864 1865 2525 2526 2527 2528 x41t (Lenovo) MT 1866 1867 || <!--Chipset-->Intel with single core 1.5 1.6 and tablet 1.2GHz || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 915GML 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751M tg3}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel or MiniPCI Wi-Fi Atheros AR5BMB FRU 39T0081 but ordinary atheros 54meg needs risky bios hacking}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit - amongst first Lenovo design |- | <!--Name-->R52 (most 18xx) || <!--Chipset-->Intel 915 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 915GML 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->R52 1846, 1847, 1848, 1849, 1850, 1870 || <!--Chipset-->ATi 200m || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|ATI}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751M tg3}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad T60 T60P * 64bit - 6 or 8 is 16:10 on T60/p, eg. 8742-CTO 15.4" * 32bit - 1 and 2 are 14", 15" 4:3, like 2007-YM3 or 1952-CTO || <!--Chipset-->*any* T60/p will take a Core 2 Duo CPU with newer BIOS || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA (2D) with "p" graphics card (ATi V5200 or V5250) || <!--Audio-->{{no|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || {{no|e1000e 82573L}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel ipw3945 ABG but atheros with Middleton's or Zender BIOS hacking risky}} || Icaros 1.4 || <!--Comments-->2006 - |- | <!--Name-->X60 x60s x60t tablet || <!--Chipset-->945GMS 940GML || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|AD1981 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 3945 ABG or fru 39T5578 Atheros 5K AR5BXB6 ar5007eg with bios hacking}} || <!--Comments-->Icaros 1.4 || 2006 32bit - perhaps needs a zendered bios update but risky |- | <!--Name-->R60 R60e || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->intel 950 with optional radeon x1300 x1400 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with 1981HD codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel or Broadcom || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel 3945 or atheros fru 39T5578 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit |- | Thinkpad T61 T61p without Middleton's or Zender BIOS || Core 2 Duo CPU T7300 T8300 || {{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || Intel GMA (2D), NVS 140m or Quadro FX 570M () || {{no|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || {{no|e1000e 82573L}} || {{No|Intel but atheros with bios hacking risky}} || Icaros 1.6 || 2007 64bit |- | <!--Name-->X61 x61s X61T Tablet || <!--Chipset-->i965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 3100 (2D) slow 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|AD1984 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->82566DM || <!--Wireless-->{{maybe|Atheros AR5212 (some revisions use Intel WLAN runs very hot) bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || 2007 64bit possible <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit ultrabook running very hot - |- | <!--Name-->R61 R61i || <!--Chipset-->Intel 965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->intel 965 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with conexant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5787M || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit |- | Lenovo 3000 N200 || <!--Chipset-->Santa Rosa || {{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe| }} || {{yes|Geforce 7300 (2D)}} || {{yes|ALC262 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || {{no|Broadcom}} || {{no|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2007 64bit 3D graphics parts are supported but buggy. |- | Lenovo 3000 N200 / V200 || GM965 ICH9-M with Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo T5450 || {{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe| }} || {{yes|X3100 (2D)}} || {{Maybe|HD Audio ALC269VB or CX20549}} || {{yes| }} || {{no|BCM5906M}} || {{no|Intel 3965 / 4965AGN bios locked}} || Icaros 1.4.1 2.1 || 2007 64bits of laptop works |- | <!--Name-->X300 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo Merom SL7100 1.2GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1.8 inch || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel X3100}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio AD1984A || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 4965 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit 13.3" TFT 1440x900 (WXGA+) with LED backlight |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad Edge 11″ AMD K325 || <!--Chipset-->M880G || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA for ATI HD4200}} || <!--Audio-->{{{{maybe|}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 8111}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|8192CE (Realtek 8176) bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 little support |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X301 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo Penryn SU9400 Su9600 with GM45 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1.8 inch micro SATA (uSATA) || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel X4500}} || <!--Audio-->AD1984A || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 5xxx WiFi link 5100, 5150, 5300 and 5350 (WiMAX) bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 WXGA+ (1440×900) LED backlight display - 2774 or 4057 Alps and 2776 Synaptics touchpad - optical bay interface is Legacy IDE (PATA) - Addonics ADMS18SA, Lycom ST-170m |- | <!--Name-->X100e || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon Neo Single-Core (MV-40) and dual cores || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|2.5in tray in ide mode in bios}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa ATI HD3200}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with CX20582 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8111}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek r8192se bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 11.6in 1366 x 768 - 20v 65W round barrel - enter f1 setup f11 diagnostics f12 boot list - runs very warm - |- | <!--Name-->SL400 SL500 || Intel || {{N/A}} || {{Yes|IDE mode}} || {{Maybe|Nvidia 9400M}} || {{Maybe|ALC269}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{Maybe|RTL8169}} || {{Maybe| bios locked}} || || |- | <!--Name-->SL410 SL510 || 965 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE mode}} || {{maybe|Intel GMA X4500M (some 2D)}} || {{yes|HD Audio with ALC269 codec - speaker and ear phones}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{yes|RTL8169}} || {{Maybe| bios locked}} || [http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=645774&postcount=28 Icaros 1.3] || 2009 64bit SL-410 |- | <!--Name-->T400 ODM Wistron || <!--Chipset-->i || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel 4500MHD works limited 2d no 3d - optional switchable Nvidia or ATi HD3470 untested}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with Codec CX20561 (T400)}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel e1000e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Wifi Link 5100 (AGN) half height card with FRU 43Y6493 or 5300 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 20v lenovo plug - non-free firmware required iwlwifi |- | <!--Name-->T400s || <!--Chipset-->i || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VSEA for Intel 4500MHD works limited 2d no 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with CX20585}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel e1000e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Wifi Link 5100 (AGN) half height card with FRU 43Y6493 or 5300 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit non-free firmware required iwlwifi |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo T500 T510 || <!--Chipset-->i || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA for switchable Intel / AMD HD 3640}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|Intel HD Audio with a CX20561 (t500) and CX20585 (T510) codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or Lenovo branded unit Atheros AR5007EG AR5BHB63 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit |- | <!--Name-->X200 ODM Wistron [http://itgen.blogspot.co.uk/2008/12/installing-arch-linux-on-lenovo.html X200s] and x200t tablet model without [http://fsfe.soup.io/post/590865884/the-unconventionals-blog-English-Flashing-Libreboot-on Risky flash of the Libreboot BIOS] || <!--Chipset-->GM45 GS45 with slow Celeron, SU or faster SL Core 2 Duos CPUs || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe||Intel GMA 4500 MHD 2D but slow software 3D tunnel 10 gearbox 8 tests}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel HD Audio with Conexant CX20561 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{{Yes|USB 2.0 USB SD card reads and writes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82567LM Gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel Pro 5100 5150 5300 5350 AGN due to whitelist prevention bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.1 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 12.1" CCFL (webcam version) or LED backlit (no webcam). no support for 54mm express cards or Authentec 2810 fingerprint reader - thinkpoint only no trackpad - thinklight - |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo T410 T410s T410si || <!--Chipset-->qm57 with i5 m || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use vesa Intel 5700MHD (Ironlake) core processor igp with optional Nvidia Quadro NVS 3100M}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio Conexant CX20585 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82577lm gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel n 6200 or Atheros AR9280 AR5BHB92 half size minipcie detected bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2 xmas || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit battery life much lower with Nvidia graphics version - no support firewire ricoh r5c832 - ricoh sd card - series 5 3400 |- | <!--Name-->X201 X201s x201t || <!--Chipset-->QM57 Core i3 370m, i5 M520 2.4GHz or i7 620LM 2.0GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|vesa 2d on Intel GMA HD}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel HD with [https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=94.0 Conexant 20585] codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2010 X201 arrandale power consumption limits battery life to 3-4 hours for 48Whr though to 6 on 72Whr - 12.5" WXGA |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->T420 type 4180 4236 t420s T520 4239 L520 || <!--Chipset-->i5 2540, 2520 or i7 2860QM 2620 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS but not AHCI}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 136 x 768 - Intel HD 3000 with optional NVS 4200M Nvidia optimus or Radeon HD 565v }} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio playback ear phones only with Conexant CX20672 codec - AHI 6.27}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO 1000 82579LM}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek 1x1, Intel Ultimate-N 6205 6250 2x2 6300 3x3 all bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2.2 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit add noacpi to grub boot options - screen 1600x900 or 1366x768 - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad W520 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 3000 with nvidia quadro 1000m 2000m}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel Hd with CX 20585 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82579 Lm}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6000s}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit optimus issues with Nvidia Intel hybrids unless bumblebee switching - 15.6" TFT display with 1366x768 (HD), 1600x900 (HD+) or 1920x1080 (FHD) resolution with LED backlight |- | <!--Name-->X220 x220t || <!--Chipset-->QM67 express, dual i5 2520M or i7 dual 2620M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS but not AHCI}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D 1024 x 768 for Intel HD Graphics 3000}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel HD playback with Conexant 20672 codec ear phones and speaker - AHI 6.27 6.34}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82579LM}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 Wi-Fi bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3, Aros One USB 1.6 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit possible - uses slimmer 7 mm storage sata devices - NEC USB 3.0 on i7's no support - unwanted trackpad gestures when palm rests on it - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots - external battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X120e, x121e Quanta FL8A DAFL8AMB8D0 Rev D || <!--Chipset-->Hudson M1 with slow AMD E350 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->yes || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA ATI 0x9802}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ATI SBx00 Azalia HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->USB 2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8169 RTL8111 || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom 0x0576 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit 11.6 inch screen - 1 inch think - chiclet keyboard |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad S205 G575 G585, Edge 11 E325 || <!--Chipset-->Slow E-350 later E-450 with A75 or AMD Athlon II Neo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA HD6310}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - removeable and plug in battery - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad S206 || <!--Chipset-->AMD E300 1.3GHZ Dual || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD Audio with CX20672 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|3.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom 10/100 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6" and integrated battery - Conexant® |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo x130e or x131e edu || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD E-300 or E-450 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon HD 6310 or 6320 }} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio Realtek ALC269VC / ALC3202 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|USB 30 and USB 20}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111 RTL8168B || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8188CE or Broadcom BCM43228 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - rubber edged bumper for K12 education market - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad Edge E135 E335 || <!--Chipset-->amd dual E-300, E2-1800 or E2-2000 slow atom like A68M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|SATA 3.0Gb/s 2.5" wide 7mm high}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA radeon 6310 or 7340 vga or hdmi}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HDAudio with Realtek ALC3202 codec}} || <!--USB-->2 usb3, 1 powered usb2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 8111f}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek WLAN whitelist bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6 inch to 13.3in 1366x768 - Acrylonitrile-Butadiene-Styrene (ABS) plastic case - external battery - 20v 65w lenovo barrel ac - 2 ddr3 sodimm 8Gb max - |- | <!--Name-->x140e E145 || <!--Chipset-->E1 2500 dual or A4 5000 apu quad BGA769 (FT3) || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon 8260 or 8330}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Realtek ALC269VC aka ALC3202 codec}} || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111F or Broadcom || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8188CE 11b/g/n or FRU Intel version}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit 11.6" 1366x768, non-glare and Broadcom bluetooth - education student market rugged model - both CPUs soldered - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad Edge E525 E535 LENOVO IDEAPAD Z575 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-3420M A8-3500M later A8-4500M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD 6620G later 7640G}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Conexant codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|USB2 but not usb3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 Realtek 8111}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6in 1368 x 768 matt - 65W 20v lenovo round psu - thick desktop replacement - ThinkPad Edge E520 E520S E525 E530 E545 E535 E530C Laptop Keyboard swap - |- | <!--Name-->T430 t430i T530 || <!--Chipset-->ivy bridge i5 3320 3230m on Intel QM77 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 1366 x 768 for Intel HD 4000 with optional Nvidia 5400M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with Realtek ALC3202 aka ALC269VC codec playback ear head phones - HDA 6.27}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2 ports and usb2.0 devices thru usb 3.0 ports}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel e1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or Atheros AR9285 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit fan noise and chiclet keyboard, synaptics trackpad 06CB:CE2D 06CB:7F28 - HD+ 1600x900 or 768p - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad L430 L530 || <!--Chipset-->Intel HM series 7 chipset i5 3210M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 4000}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with Realtek ALC269VC codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8169 rtl810x || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 6205 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit alps trackpad - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad W530 || <!--Chipset-->Intel HM series 7 chipset i5 3210M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 4000 with Nvidia GK107GLM Quadro K2000M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with Realtek ALC3202 ALC269VC codec }} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82579LM || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6300 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - ricoh sdxc slot - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X230 x230t || <!--Chipset-->Intel QM67 express i5 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with ALC269 aka ALC3202}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|I}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - 12.2 in 1366 x 768 - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots - external battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad T440 t440s t440p T540 L440 L540 || <!--Chipset-->intel haswell 8 series Core i3 to i7 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA - Intel 4600 or Nvidia}} || <!--Audio-->Intel HD with Realtek ALC3232 alc269 codec or ALC292 || <!--USB-->2 usb 3.0 and 2 usb 2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel AC 7260 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 14 and 15" models with glitchy trackpad and no physical buttons - IPS options available - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components or 4 variants of key caps - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X240 x240t ultrabook TN (20AL0081GE), HD IPS display without touch (20AL007NGE) and touch (20AL0076GE) but all 65% sRGB || <!--Chipset-->haswell i7-4600U i5 4200U 4210U 4300U i3-4100U - two batteries, one internal 3cell 45N1110 (45N1111) or 45N1112 (FRU 45N1113) and external 3 / 6cell 45N1126 (FRU 45N1127) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in 7mm sata (torq t7), m.2 2242 in WWAN slot (m and b key NGFF Sata) || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for Intel 4400 for vga or mini-dp}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 0x8086 0x0a0c 0x9c20 with Realtek ALC3232 aka ALC292 0x10ec 0x0292}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel® 82577LM Gigabit (Hanksville) }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel 7260n I218-V or I218-LM bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 12.2in 1366 x 768 or 1080p - 1 ddr3l sodimm slot - no keyboard spill drainage and at least 2 variants of key caps - lenovo rectangle pwr ac - TPM 1.2 - Bluetooth 4.0 no support - large touchpad with integrated but no physical buttons - bottom panel loosening 8 retained screws - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad T450 T450s t450p T550 L550 || <!--Chipset-->Intel i5 4300U i3 5010U i5 5200U 5300U i7 5500U 5600U soldered || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 5500 5600 with optional nvidia 940M}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD Audio with ALC3232 codec Realtek ALC3232 0x10ec 0x0292}} || <!--USB-->{{no|3 USB 3.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Wireless AC 7265 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit 14" 1366 x 768, 1600 x 900 or IPS 1920x1080 - Broadwell - keyboard swap requires removal of all components and key cap versions - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad x250 x250t || <!--Chipset-->i3 5010U i5 5200U 5300U i7 5600U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|2.5in 7mm or m.2 2242 sata (m and b key)}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Realtek ALC3232 codec / Intel HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{no|up to 3 USB 3.0 partly boots from usb but stops waiting for usb}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel I218 extension port}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel AC 7265 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.0 USB || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - 1366 x 768, 1920 × 1080 12.5" screen - Fn and F1 for setup bios - F12 boot options - 1 ddr3l sodimm slot - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad E540 || <!--Chipset-->Intel || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2D for Intel gfx}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HDAudio with Conexant CX20751-21Z codec}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB2 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 8111gus}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel Wireless-N 7260 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 15.6in 1376 x 786 - plastic construction - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad Edge E545 * key cap swap with E440 E531 E540 L440 L450 T431S T440S T440P T540 * Keyboard swap L540 T540p W540 Edge E531 E540 W541 T550 W550S L560 P50S T560 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Socket FS1r2 A6-5350M (2c2t) or A8-4500M, A8-5550M, A10-5750M (4c4t) with A76M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in 9.5mm - enter UEFI bios with Enter or ESC, config section, sata into compatibility and security, secure boot disabled - mini sata DVD burner PLSD DS8A9SH || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD 7640G, 8450G, 8550G, 8650G ?? Islands}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|VOID 6.3 for HDAudio 8086:1c20 Conexant CX20590 Analog 0x14f1 0x506e, CX20671 codec 0x14f1 0x5069, or audio over Trinity HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|boots pen drives from yellow usb port but not from blue USB3 ones}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 1GbE 8111F}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM43142 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.3 USB with noacpi added to end of grub2 boot line but no further boot for usb3 socket/stick || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit SSE 4.1 and AVX - 15.6in 1366 x 768 matt - 20v 65w 90w round lenovo plug psu - 2 DDR3 SODIMM slots stacked up to 16GB Max - external 6 Cell Li-Ion Battery 48Wh - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery in wifi area jp1202 - amd v(tm) virtualization not working - |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo G505s || <!--Chipset-->AMD A8 5550M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD 8550M islands chipset}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Qualcomm Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit 15.6" - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad Flex 15D 20334 || <!--Chipset-->AMD a6 5200, e1 2100, || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Radeon R3 southern islands chipset}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 8169 rtl810x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k whitelist for wifi swap}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo B50-45, G50-45 80E3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A8-6410 (2c), A6-6400 (2c), AMD A8 (4c), AMD A4-6300 (2c), AMD E2-6200 (2c), AMD E1-6050 (2c) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|I}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit 15.6" 1366 x 768 - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad E455 E555 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-7000 A8-7100 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R5 }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Conexant® CX20751 codec 0x14f1 0x510f}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111GUS || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8723BE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - 14 768p or up to 15.6in 1080p - 2 DDR3L slots max 16G - no TPM - keyboard swap but Lenovo E550 E550C E555 E560 E560C E565 range has at least 2 different key cap variants - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Z40-75 Z50-75 || <!--Chipset-->A10-7300 4c 4t || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R6 6CUs}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - heavy - external battery - slim box lenovo ac - dvdrw - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad E465 E565 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-8500P 8600P A8-8700P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Conexant® CX11852 codec 0x14f1 0x5}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6" 1366 x 768 to 1080p IPS - Polycarbonate, ABS Plastic shell casing - internal battery - |- |<!--Name-->AMD platform codes *Beema: ABM, *Carizzo-L: ACL, *Carizzo: ACZ, *Godavari: AGR, *Kaveri: AKV, *Stoney Ridge: ASR, *Stoney Ridge: AST (NB), || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> *Summit Ridge: ASU, *Bristol Ridge-L: ABL, *Bristol Ridge: ABR, *Raven Ridge: ARR, *Picasso: API |- | <!--Name-->LENOVO IDEAPAD 500-15ACZ || <!--Chipset-->AMD 4c A10-8700P A8-8600P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5 M.2 || <!--Gfx-->VESA for Radeon R5 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek Atheros Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bits - 15.6" 768p to 1080p - 2 ddr3l slots max 16gb - 45w rectangle psu - |- | <!--Name-->lenovo yoga 510-14ast 8059, || <!--Chipset-->A6-9210 A9-9410 and Intel Xeon E3-1200 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 45w 20v round barrel 4.0 * 1.7mm fits Yoga 310 510 520 710 - Harman Audio - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->V110-14AST V110-15AST V110 (15") || <!--Chipset-->AMD E1-9000, A6-9210 to A9-9410 all dual core || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 2.5in sata most 7mm some 9.5mm || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD R2, R3, R5 or R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in mostly 768p to 1080p 220 nits - 20v 45W or 65W lenovo slim rectangle end ac - keyboard swap hard - integrated 24WHr battery - 4gb ddr4 ram soldered and 1 2133Mhz ddr4 slot max 12Gb - abs plastic - |- |<!--Name--> *ThinkPad A275 12in (1 ddr4 1866MHz sodimm) *Thinkpad A475 14in (2 ddr4 1866MHz sodimm) - both internal (main) and external (secondary) battery || <!--Chipset-->A10-8730B A10-9700B 2.500Ghz later A12-8830B A12-9800B all 4c4t (AVX2 on 9000s) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|Sata3 port for 7mm 2.5in ssd hdd with mbr and not gpt, setup in other machines - secure boot disabled, bios startup boot set to legacy then uefi - WWAN slot cannot use M.2 2242 sata with M and B key}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD R5 or R7}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 0x1022, 0x157a 6.34 ahi with ALC3268 codec 0x10ec, 0x0298 aka ALC298 - VOID even with QUERY / QUERYD added}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 starts to boot pendrives but stops, usb mouse not detected}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 RTL8111EPV, shell pinging google.com works but apps like OWB start when copied to RAM: and run from there}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8822BE WLAN whitelist locked cannot swap}} || <!--Test Distro-->{{No|AROSOne USB 1.8 with noacpi noapic noioapic added to grub2 boot line then hanging on bootable media (kitty eyes)}} || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit 12 or 14in 1366 x 768 poor screen - 45W or 65w lenovo rectangle ac adapter - F1 enter bios and F12 boot order - 6 retained screws and snap on base - keyboard swap not easy - 2100 error message no solution except using only efi/gpt bios option - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E475 E575 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9500b A10-9600P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Conexant CX11852 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek R8111GUS || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 15.6" 1366 x 768 to 1080p IPS - Polycarbonate, ABS Plastic shell casing - internal battery - two DDR4 SO-DIMM sockets clocks down with 1866MHz DDR4 memory controller - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Ideapad S145-14AST S145-15AST || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9225, A9-9425, A10-9600P 7th Gen, AMD A12-9720P Mobo 5B20P11110 NMB341 Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon 8670A 8670M 8690M GCN 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A|N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 or Realtek RTL8821CE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 14in or 15.6" 768p or 1080p - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Ideapad V145-14AST V145-15AST, 81mt, Ideapad 310, Ideapad 320-15ABR, Ideapad 330-14AST 330-15AST 330-17AST || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9225, A9-9425 (2c2t), A10-9600P 7th Gen, AMD A12-9720P Mobo 5B20P11110 NMB341 Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon 8670A 8670M 8690M GCN 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with ALC236 codec, }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|rtl8169 10/100 only}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 or Realtek RTL8821CE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 14in or 15.6" 768p or 1080p - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - 45w 6w slim ac adapter - keyboard swap problematic - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo V330-14ARR 81B1, Ideapad 330s 15ARR, || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R3 2200U, 2300U or R5 2500U Raven Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3, 6 or 8 up to 1Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|Realtek 1GbE but not on 330s}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14" 20mm thick 1.8kg - 20v 2.25a 45w ac round barrel - chiclet keyboard - 4Gb soldered and 1 ddr4 sodimm - TPM 2.0 in bios - battery internal about 30whr - 4GB soldered - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad Edge E485 E585 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R3 2300U R5 2500U R7 2700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme maybe 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Vega 3, 8 or 10}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with CX11852 codec }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 rtl8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in or 15.6in 768p or 1080p - USB-C 20V 2.25A 3.25A avoid knocking charging port as damages easily - 2 ddr4 sodimm slot max 2400Mhz 32GB - internal battery only - TPM 2.0 software - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad A285 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen PRO 3 2200U 5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata port and m.2 sata ngff port || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC ALC3287 codec aka ALC257 }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Mini-Ethernet/Docking}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Qualcomm - WLAN whitelist no more??}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 12.5in 1080p - avoid usb-c port being lifted/moved whilst in use as damages laptop easily - internal and external battery - soldered ram 8gb or 16gb - WWAN whitelist - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad A485 bios setting [https://github.com/PSPReverse/PSPTool AMD PSP Platform Security Processor Key] || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen PRO 5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata port and m.2 sata ngff port || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC ALC3287 codec aka ALC 257 }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUL}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Qualcomm - WLAN whitelist no more??}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in 768p, 1080p or 1440p - avoid usb-c port being lifted/moved whilst in use as damages laptop easily - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 32gb - internal and external battery - WWAN whitelist - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Yoga 530-14ARR 81H9 || <!--Chipset-->R5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in 1080p - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo V14-ADA, V15-ADA 82C700E4UK || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 3050U, 3150U, 3250U, Ryzen 5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1x 2.5" HDD + 1x M.2 SSD NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Qualcomm}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14 or 15.6in - internal battery - 4GB soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - keyboard swap problematic - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad E Edge E495 20NE, Edge E595, || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 3200U r5 3500U, R7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 nvme maybe 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Vega 3, 8 or 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with synaptic formerly conexant CX11880 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14in or 15.6in 768p or 1080p - ddr4 soldered with 1 dimm slot - USB-C charger issue was fixed with a BIOS update, if not the charger shorts the motherboard - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo v155-15api 81V5 V155 (15" AMD) budget all plastic build || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon 300U, Ryzen 3 3200U r5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 nvme and usually 2.5in 7mm sata - install on mbr not gpt 2.5in in another compatible machine - mini sata dvd/cd da-8aesh11b || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D 1920x1080, 1280x1024, 800x600 work for Vega 3 or 8 with up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken but hdmi 1.4b no output}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio add 0x1022, 0x15E3 with Realtek ALC257 codec 0x10ec, 0x0257 - no issues with 32bit}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 not detected with no usb-c ports}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS works well with 32bit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.8 USB 32bit and deadwoods native x64 iso with grub line ATA=32bit noacpi || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 768p or 1080p 200nits tn panel - 4Gb ddr4 2400MHz soldered with 1 dimm slot max 20Gb - round ac 20V 65W psu 4.0mm x 1.7mm - MS created a new protocol, HID over I2C so [https://askubuntu.com/questions/1033033/elantech-touchpad-does-not-work-i2c-hid elantech i2c-hid i2c PS2 hybrid trackpad] 04F3:3140 touchpad not functioning - internal sunwoda battery L18D3PF1 35Whr but also L18L3PF1 L18C3PF2 - Fn+F2 to enter bios and F12 boot order - no sd card slot - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad C340-13AP1, IdeaPad S340-14API C340-14API || <!--Chipset-->R3 3200U, R5 3500U, R7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3, 8, 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 13in convertible or 14" laptop - 4GB soldered - usb-c charging care needed - keyboard swap problematic - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo IdeaPad L340-15API 81LW001CUS L340-17API untested || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon 300U, Ryzen 3 3200U r5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 nvme and usually 2.5in sata - install on mbr not gpt 2.5in in another compatible machine - mini sata dvd/cd da-8aesh11b || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Vega 3 or 8 with up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken - hdmi 1.4b}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio add 0x1022, 0x15E3 with Realtek ALC236 0x10ec, 0x0236}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 not detected}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.8 USB || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 768p or 1080p 200nits - 4Gb ddr4 2400MHz soldered with 1 dimm slot max 20Gb - round ac 20V 65W psu 4.0mm x 1.7mm - elan trackpad not functioning - internal battery - Return or F1 to enter bios and F12 boot order - no sd card slot - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad S540-14API, Ideapad S145-14API, S145-15API || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3020e to 300U, 5 3500U, 7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme, some may have 1 2.5in space || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega 3, 8 or 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|3.1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|RTL8822BE AC (1×1)}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - keyboard swap problematic - sd card slot - no cd dvd - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot 2400Mhz - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad T295 T495 T495s X395 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 3300U, R5 Pro 3500U or R7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 NVMe up to 2280 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 6, 8 or 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111EPV not on slim T495s}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8822BE or Intel AC 9260}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14in 768p but mostly FHD 1080p 250 nits - internal battery - ram 8gb or 16gb 2400Mhz soldered with 1 ddr4 slot on T495 only - TPM 2.0 - usb-c charging avoid knock whilst in use - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 Gen2, E15 Gen 2 (AMD) 20T8, - lenovo has a mobile phone PC Diagnostic App for error/beep codes || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 4300U, 5 4500U, 7 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2 m.2 nvme, 1 2242 and 1 2280 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD Radeon up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 15.6in 1080p 220 nits - TPM 2.0 - usb-c charging of internal 45Whr battery - 4gb ddr4 3200Mhz soldered and 1 ddr4 sodimm slot max 20Gb - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkPad T14, Lenovo L14 Gen 1, L15 Gen 1, ThinkPad P14s Gen 1 (AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 4300u, 5 4500U, Ryzen 5 Pro 4650U, Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R5 }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111EPV (DASH models) or RTL8111HN}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - USB-C charger avoid moving whilst in use - 14" or 15" 1080p - keyboard swap problematic - 8gb or 16gb 3200MHz soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - sd card slot - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkPad X13 Gen1 AMD, || <!--Chipset-->AMD RYZEN 3 4450U, 5 4650U or 7 4750U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->One drive, up to 512GB M.2 2242 SSD or 1TB M.2 2280 SSD NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA Radeon up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{unk| but USB-C ports can fail}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Realtek RTL8111EPV, mini RJ-45 to RJ-45 via optional ThinkPad Ethernet Extension Adapter Gen 2}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek Wi-Fi 6 RTL8852AE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 13.3" HD 1366x768 to 1080p - USB-C port care needed as damages easily - Memory soldered to systemboard, no slots, dual-channel DDR4-3200 - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkBook 14 G2, 15 G2 Are ITL || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 4500u, 7 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->14in has 2 m.2 nvme but 15in has 1 nvme and might have 2.5in metal sata caddy || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in or 15in 1080p - usb-c charging powered - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot 3200mhz - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad 5 14ARE05 (81YM) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 3 4300U (4c4t), 5 4500u (6c6t) 4600U (6c12t), 7 4700u (8c16t) on AMD Promontory Bixby FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1x M.2 2242 slot and may have 1x M.2 2280 NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 6 hdmi up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel ax200 wifi 6}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit 14inch 768p or 1080p - round lenovo ac - 4gb, 8gb, or 16gb ddr4 3200Mhz ram soldered non upgradable - keyboard swap problematic - integrated battery - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->Ideapad Flex 5 81X2 || <!--Chipset-->AMD R5 4500u, R7 4800U, R3 5300 R5 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 NVMe ssd || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC? codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3.1 gen 1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|realtek ac wifi}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit abs plastic case 14in convertible 1080p touch low nits - 65w usb-c psu ac - possible wacom esr note taking pen supplied - ram soldered DDR4 - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkBook 14 G3, 15 G3 ACL || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 14in or 15in 1080p - usb-c charging powered - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 G3, E15 Gen 3 (AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 5300U 5500U 5650U 5700U 5800U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->up to 2 m.2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|realtek or intel }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - - usb-c charging issues lenovo has a mobile phone PC Diagnostic App for error/beep codes - keyboard swap problematic - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 3200Mhz sodimm slot - |- |<!--Name-->V15 G2 ALC 82KD || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 5300U, 5 5500U, 7 5700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme 2280 with some having 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H-CG}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 15.6" FHD 1080p - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - 65w round ac adaptor - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L15 Gen 2 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 5000 series AMD Ryzen 3 5400U (4c8t), 5 5600U, 5 5650U (6c12t), 7 PRO 5850U (8c16t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111EPV (DASH models) or RTL8111HN}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 15.6in 768p or 1080p - usb-c charging - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr4 3200Mhz sodimm slot - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 Gen 4, E15 Gen 4 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 3 5425u, 5 5625U, 7 5825u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 (14") or 2 (15") nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - usb-c charging - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 3200Mhz sodimm slot - L19M3PDA 45Whr battery - U24 TPS65994 and QB6 QB5 mosfet issues - |- |<!--Name-->V15 G3 ALC || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 6500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15"FHD - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L15 Gen 3 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 6000 series || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit- 15.6in 1080p - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Yoga 7 14ARB7 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5, 6600U, 7 6800U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD 660M or 680M || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with ALC3306 aka alc287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 14in 1800p ips 300 nits - usb-c ac charging 71whr integrated battery - sd card slot - digital pen input - 8gb, 6gb or 32gb soldered ddr5 ram - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 g5, E15 Gen 5 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7000 series 7 7730U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB4 thunderbolt}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit- 15.6in 1080p - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkbook 14 G6 ABP IRL || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 7530U 7730U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 untested}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 14in 1200p or 1440p - 100W USB-C AC power adapter - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad Slim 5 Light 14ABR8 Laptop || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 7330U (4c8t) 5 7530U (6c12t) 7 7730U (8c16t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2 m.2 nvme slot - 1 2242, 1 2280 || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 14in 1080p - 8Gb or 16Gb soldered ram - usb-c charging only - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad X13 Gen 4 (13" AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7480U 7040U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{unk| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 - avoid usb-c port damage - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L15 Gen 4 (15" AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7480U 7040U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{unk| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo V15 G4 AMN || <!--Chipset-->AMD AMD Athlon™ Gold 7220U (2c4t), AMD Athlon™ Silver 7120U (2c2t), AMD Ryzen™ 3 7320U (4c8t), AMD Ryzen™ 5 7520U (4c8t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for AMD 610M HDMI® and USB-C}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDaudio with ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Gigabit Ethernet, 1x RJ-45 || <!--Wireless-->{{no|wifi 6}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6" FHD (1920x1080) - 8 or 16Gb soldered - 65W round tip (3-pin) AC adapter or USB-C - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad e14 G6, e15 Gen 6 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7000 series AMD Ryzen™ 7 7735HS || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit- 15.6in 1080p - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L16 (16" AMD), ThinkPad T14 Gen 5 (14" AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 8000 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB4}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Samsung==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="2%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->NP-Q1 Q1 || <!--Chipset-->Celeron-M 353 ULV 600Mhz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes|1.8" SFF HDD 20 / 60 GB }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 915 2D and 3D opengl1 tunnel 95 gearbox 68}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec - head phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Yes|Atheros 5006EX}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit old style tablet UltraMobile PC UMPC - Wacom serial resistive pen or finger no support - 1 sodimm ddr2 max 1Gb - LCD 7" WVGA (800 x 480) - CompactFlash port Type II - |- | <!--Name-->NP Q1U Ultra Mobile PC UMPC Q1F NP-Q1-F000 || <!--Chipset-->Intel A100 600 / A110 Stealey 800 MHz CPU || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|GMA 950 2D and 3D opengl1}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio 1986}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros 5006EX}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit 1024×600 - sd card slot - |- | <!--Name-->NP P500 family P500Y || <!--Chipset-->AMD with SB600 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Ati x1250}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| Audio with codec }} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8039 yukon}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|Atheros G}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->64bit possible - 15.4 tft display - cheap plastic okay build - 19v propriety end - |- | <!--Name-->R505 R510 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros G || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->R520 R522 R610H R620 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Mobile Core i3 Intel PM45 82801M ICH9-M|| <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 (RV730) || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC272 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Marvell Yukon 88E8057 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR5007EG || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2010 64 bit possible |- | NP-R530 || || {{N/A}} || {{partial|IDE mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{partial|HD Audio playback}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{no|Marvell}} || {{no|Atheros AR9285}} || Icaros 1.5.2 || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Samsung R730 17.3 Essential Notebook NP-R730-JA02UK, NP-R730-JA01SE, R730-JT06 || <!--Chipset-->Intel HM55 Dual Core T4300 i3-370M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for Intel 4500MHD and GeForce G 310M with 1 VGA, 1 HDMI}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio ALC??? codec Realtek}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell Yukon 88E8059 PCI-E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom, Intel or Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro-->Deadwoods ISO 2023-11 || <!--Comments-->2010 64bit - 17.3in HD 1280 x 720 pixels low contrast or some 1600x900 - 2 DDR3 sodimm slots - 2.84 kg 6.26 lbs - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-305U1A-A01DE-Subnotebook.68246.0.html Series 3 Samsung 305u1a] || <!--Chipset-->AMD Zacate E350 or E450 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon 6320 || <!--Audio-->ALC ACL 269 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom 4313 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit |- | <!--Name-->NP-RV415 NP-RV515 || <!--Chipset-->E350 or E450 plus A50M chipset || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon HD 6470 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio Realtek || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111 8168B || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9285 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit slow - |- | <!--Name-->Series 5 NP535U3C || <!--Chipset-->A6-4455M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in || <!--Gfx-->radeon || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit slow - 13.3in 1368 x 768 - plastic build - 65w 19v psu - |- | <!--Name-->series 3 NP355V5C || <!--Chipset-->A6-4400M, A8-4500M, A10-4600M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in || <!--Gfx-->7640M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit - 15.4in 1368 x 768 - plastic build - 65w 19v psu - |- | <!--Name-->Samsung ATIV Book 9 Lite NP905S3G || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-1450 quad 1GHz Temash atom like || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->128gb || <!--Gfx-->AMD 8250 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek rtl8169 but only with mini LAN AA-AE2N12B Ethernet Adapter RJ45 dongle}} || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9565 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 13.3 TN glossy 1366 x 768 200nits 60% srgb - plastic case - 26W battery built in with 4hr life - 19V 2.1A 3.0*1.0mm psu - 1 ddr3l slot max 4gb - 720p webcam - mini hdmi out - 1w speakers - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Toshiba==== [[#top|...to the top]] Order of Build Quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Equium Satellite (Pro) Libretto Portege Tecra </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Tecra 8100 8200 9000 || 440BX || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|S3 Savage MX 3D (VESA only)}} || {{no|Yamaha DS-XG ymf744 ymf-754}} || {{yes|USB1.1 only}} || {{N/A}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.5 || little support |- | <!--Name-->Tecra 9100 || <!--Chipset-->810 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|S3 Savage IX}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|ymf754}} || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->eeee pro100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->PSU Adapter For Toshiba Tecra 9000 9100 A1 A10 A11 A3 A3X A4 A5 A7 M1 M2 M3 M4 M5 M7 M9 R10 S1 series 75 Watt 15V 5A |- | [http://tuxmobil.org/toshiba_sp4600.html Satellite Pro 4600] || i810 || IDE || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Trident Cyber Blade XP (VESA only)}} || {{no|YAMAHA DS-XG AC97 ymf754}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel e100}} || {{no|Agere (internal PCMCIA)}} || || little support |- | Satellite 2805 S603 || Intel 815 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|nVidia GeForce2 Go}} || {{no|Yamaha Corp YMF 754}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO/100}} || {{dunno}} || || little support |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A10 S167 S1291 - A15 A20 A25 || <!--Chipset-->P4M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GM or Radeon || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139 || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel 2100, Agere or Atheros PA3399U 1MPC minipci}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->a few models came with antenna leads |- | Satellite [http://eu.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/jsp/SUPPORTSECTION/discontinuedProductPage.do?service=EU&com.broadvision.session.new=Yes&PRODUCT_ID=76230 A30-714] || P4-M / 82845 i845 || {{yes|82801}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes}} || {{yes|RTL8139}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || nice laptop, drawbacks: heavy, really hot (P4-3.06 GHz!!) - A30 (EU) A33 (Australian) A35 (USA) - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A40 A45 || <!--Chipset-->P4M or Celeron M with Intel 845 865 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GME or Radeon 7000 Mobility || <!--Audio-->AC97 Realtek || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5002G 5004G - PA3299U mini pci || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - A40 S161 A40-S1611 A40-2701, A45-S120 A45-S1201 S130 S1301 S1501 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite a50 A55 a60-s156 Equium A60 PSA67E A65 || <!--Chipset-->P4M or Celeron M with Intel 845 865 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GME or Radeon 7000 Mobility || <!--Audio-->AC97 Realtek || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5002G 5004G - PA3299U mini-pci || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A70 A75-S206 A80 A85-S107 || <!--Chipset-->P4M or Celeron-M with Intel 845 865 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GME or Radeon 7000 Mobility || <!--Audio-->AC97 Realtek || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5002G 5004G - PA3299U mini-pci || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5.1 || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - |- | Toshiba Satellite Pro M30 || intel 855 || {{yes|boots with ATA=nodma option}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{yes|Intel PRO/100 VE}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.5 || nice laptop with some support |- | <!--Name-->Portege M300 - M200 tablet || <!--Chipset-->855GM with 1.2GHz Pentium M 753 || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2d only - tablet with nvidia 5200 go}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 STAC 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->little support |- | <!--Name-->Tecra M2 M2-S || <!--Chipset-->Intel 855P Pentium-M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->nvidia fx go5200 32mb or 64mb agp || <!--Audio-->AC97 1981B || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Intel Pro || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - PSU 15V 5A - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro L20 267 (PSL2YE PSL2XE) PSL25E L30 || <!--Chipset-->Celeron M 370 1.4 1.5GHz, 1.73Ghz with RC410M SB400 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - Ati x200}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|[https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-490297-start-0.html ALC861]}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Boots usb sticks}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8139 Realtek 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros mini-pci should work maybe not working with ATi chipset or need to swap??}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit 14" pioneer dvd-rw - 19v |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L30 PSL30E L33 PSL33E || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 800 or ATi RC410 x200 || <!--Audio-->AC97 AD1981B or HD Audio ALC861 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros or Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->L30 PSL30L 101 PSL33E 113 115 134 00M019 - |- | Satellite Pro M40 313 psm44e || AMD with Ati || {{yes|boots with ATA=nodma}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{yes|}} || {{maybe|atheros askey ar5bmb5 mini pci}} || || 2005 32bit - nice laptop with some support |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L40 PSL40E PSL40L, PSL43E || <!--Chipset-->945GM with U7700 1.3GHz ULV || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945 || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD with AD1986A codec}} || <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR24xx Askey || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.3 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit only - - 12X 13G 139 14B 143 15J 19O - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L45 PSL40U S7409 S2416 || <!--Chipset-->945GM with Celeron M 440 1.86 GHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945 || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD with AD1986A codec}} || <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR24xx Askey || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.3 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit only - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro A100 || <!--Chipset-->940G || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia G72M Quadro NVS 110M GeForce Go 7300 / Ati (PSAA3E)|| <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC861 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 100 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 swap with atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A110 159 (PSAB0), Equium A110 (PSAB2E), Satellite A110 233 (PSAB6), || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->ALC861 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8136 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro A120 PSAC0 PSAC1 PSAC1E || <!--Chipset-->Core Solo GMA 950 to T2300 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 945 || <!--Audio-->ALC262 or AC97 AD1981B || <!--USB-->UHCI EHCI || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros Ar5001 or Intel or Broadcom || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->15V 4A charger - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro A120 || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo ATi RS480 + SB450 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA - ATI RC410 Radeon Xpress 200M || <!--Audio-->ALC262 || <!--USB-->OCHI UHCI || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 or Atheros Ar5001 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->15v 5a proprietary charger needed |- | <!--Name-->Satelite A130 PSAD6U || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8101E || <!--Wireless-->Atheros or Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->ST1311 s1311 ST1312 S2276 S2386 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A135 S2686 (Compal LA 3391P) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8101E || <!--Wireless-->Atheros or Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->S2246 S2346 S2256 S4477 S4666 S4827 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A200 PSAE1E (Inventec MW10M) || <!--Chipset-->Pentium M with 945GM Express || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}}|| <!--SATA--> {{Maybe|SATA}}|| <!--Gfx--> {{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D and 3D)}}|| <!--Audio--> {{Yes|HD Audio ALC862}}|| <!--USB--> {{Yes| }}|| <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|RTL8101E}}|| <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros 5000 - FN,F5 or FN,F8 or switch}} || <!--Test Distro--> AspireOS 1.8 || <!--Comments-->2006 Excellent 32 bit support! - Celeron M 520 1.6Ghz or Pentium® Core Duo T2130 1.86 GHz - make sure that your WLAN card is enabled, do this using the hardware switch and FN+F8 key combination |- | <!--Name--> A210, Satellite A215 AMD (Inventec 10A) S5808 || <!--Chipset--> Ati with SB690 || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}}|| <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|SATA}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA HD2600 Mobility M76}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC268 || <!--USB--> {{Yes| }}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8101E}}|| <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros 5000}}|| <!--Test Distro--> AspireOS 1.8 || <!--Comments-->A215-S7422 A215-S7472 A215-S4697 (USA) - |- | <!--Name--> [http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=62036 A215 S4757] || <!--Chipset--> Ati X1200 with SB600 || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}}|| <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|SATA}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> {{Yes| }}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8101E}}|| <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros 5000}}|| <!--Test Distro--> AspireOS 1.8 || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Tecra A10 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{Maybe|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|Intel GMA 4500M (2D)}} || <!--Audio--> {{Yes|HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> {{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO 1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel WiFi Link 5100}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->64 bit possible |- | <!--Name-->L35 - L40 PSL48E - L45 S7423 || <!--Chipset-->GL960 with Intel Celeron || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|X3100 some 2D but software 3d tunnel 9 gearbox 4}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC660 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|REALTEK 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek 8187b replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->1,73Ghz M 520 or M 540 or Dual T2310 (1.46 GHz) T2330 (1.6 GHz) - 14H 14N 15B 17H 17K 17R 17S 18Z - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite a300 - inventec potomac 10s pt10s A300D 21H || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio - Realtek || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8102E || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5005 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->satellite L300D-224 PSLC8E PSLC9E, l305 (inventec ps10s) || <!--Chipset-->AMD M780 with Turion RM70 or QL-64 || <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} || <!--SATA--> {{yes|SATA}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|use VESA for Radeon 3100}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio with Realtek ALC268}} || <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet--> {{no|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros G XB63L or Intel or Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros Desktop Live 2.3 AROS One 2.3 || <!--Comments--> Wireless-handler crashing when using Atheros-Wireless-Card |- | <!--Name-->satellite l300-1bw PSLBDE-005005AR, L300-148 PSLB0E, l300-20D PSLB8E-06Q007EN, l300-294 L300-23L PSLB9E || <!--Chipset-->Intel GM45 + PGA478 socket Celeron 900, Pentium T1600, T2390, T3400 (Socket P) to Core2 Duo T6400 T6670 || <!--IDE--> {{unk|IDE}} || <!--SATA--> {{unk|SATA}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|use VESA for Intel gma 4500M}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio with Realtek ALC???}} || <!--USB--> {{unk|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet--> {{unk|rtl8169 Realtek 810xE}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64-bit - new unfamiliar Bios called insyde H20 - |- | <!--Name-->satellite l350d || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon (tm) X2 QL-60 + RS780M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 3100 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8187b || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L450 12 13 14 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Sempron, 2.1GHz with AMD RS780M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 3200 (based on HD 2400) || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8172 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->12X 13P 13X 14V PSLY6E00C006EN |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro L450 (Compal LA-5821P) 179 || <!--Chipset-->intel celeron 900 2.20 Ghz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->intel 4500m || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101 /2 /6E PCI Express Gigabit || <!--Wireless-->RTL8191 SEvB || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->39.6cm (15.6”) Toshiba TruBrite® HD TFT High Brightness display with 16:9 aspect ratio internal resolution 1366 x 768 |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->L755D (E-350) L750D (E-450) || <!--Chipset-->AMD || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 6310 6320 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio conexant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Realtek || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro SP C640 C660D-15X (PSC1YE) C670D- () || <!--Chipset-->AMD E350 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->6310G || <!--Audio-->HD Realtek ALC259 || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 zacate |- |<!--Name-->Toshiba Satellite C660D-19X || <!--Chipset-->AMD E-300 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATi || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->r8169 rtl8101e || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8188 8192ce rtl8192ce || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->C70D-A C75D-A || <!--Chipset-->E1-1200 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD HD8330 || <!--Audio-->HA Audio CX20751 11Z || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8162 alx}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek 8188e}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satelite Pro C40D-A C50D-A C55D-A || <!--Chipset-->Slow E1 2100 or faster A4 5000 kabini || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->8330 || <!--Audio-->HD Realtek ALC269Q || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|AR8162}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RTL8188EE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Satelite S50D || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-5745M (4c4t), A8-5545M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon 8550M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->REaltek GbE || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8188E || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 15.6in 2.38kg and 24mm - |- | <!--Name-->Satelite C50DT-B-107 PSCN6E M50DT-A-210 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A8-6410 A6-5200 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon R3 R5 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->REaltek GbE || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8188E || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 15.6 Inch Touchscreen 1366 x 768 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L50D-C-13G || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-8700P 6th Gen || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon R6 || <!--Audio-->HD || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->1GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Sharp formerly 80% Toshiba Computers || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->dynabook formerly 20% Toshiba PC, Satellite Pro C40D C50D || <!--Chipset-->intel i? or AMD Ryzen || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in and 15.6in - ddr4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Misc==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Time 500 Packard Bell EasyOne 1450 1550 || <!--Chipset-->K6-3 500Mhz + VIA MVP4 vt82c686a || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|Issues}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA || <!--Audio-->{{No|VIA AC97 3058 with wolfson codec WM9703 WM9704 WM9707 WM9708 or WM9717}} || <!--USB-->via 3038 2 ports USB 1.1 untested || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro-->NB May 2013 || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit grub runs but stalls around [PCI] Everything OK |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Sony Vaio PCG FX201/FX202 FX210/FX215 FX401/FX402 FX404/FX405 972M, FX501/FX502 FX504/FX505, FX601/FX602, FX604/FX605 FXA53(US), FX701/FX702, FX704/FX705, FX801/FX802 FX804/FX805 || <!--Chipset-->[http://gaugusch.at/vaio/ FX] [http://tech.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/FX210/ Sony Yahoo Group] VIA KT133A KM133 Duron 800Mhz Athlon 1.3Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{partial|boot issue with 2013 kernel VIA [rev 06]}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|ATI Rage Mobility Pro (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|VIA AC97 686b [rev 50] AD1881A Ear phone and Mic}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|UHCI [rev 1a]}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Comments-->Nightly 1st March 2013 || <!--Comments-->booting usb pendrive from Plop Boot Loader floppy (no bios USB boot). Can freeze coz hardware issue or a ram slot problem - no support for iLink firewire VT8363/8365 pci - vt82c686b |- | <!--Name-->Sony Vaio PCG FX100 R505LE || <!--Chipset-->Intel i815 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA Intel 82815 CGC || <!--Audio-->Intel ICH AC97 with ADI AD1881A codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel e100 || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->PCG-FX105 FX105K PCG-FX108 FX108K PCG-FX109 FX109K FX200 FX203/FX203K FX205 FX205K FX209 FX209K FX220 [http://juljas.net/linux/vaiofx240/ FX240] FX250 FX270 FX290 FX301 FX302 FX340 FX370 FX390 FX403 FX503 FX950 |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | Sony VAIO VGN X505VP || Pentium M ULV and Intel 855GM || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Intel 855 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VE}} || {{N/A}} || || 2004 32bit - 0.38 inches at its thinnest point - first laptop to feature a "chiclet" keyboard resemble Chiclets gum - |- | <!--Name-->Sony Z505LE Z505JE || <!--Chipset-->P3 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->n/a || <!--Gfx-->Rage Mobility M1 AGP mach64 || <!--Audio-->no Yamaha DS-XG PCI YMF744 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 8255x based PCI e100 || <!--Wireless-->n/a || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->Panasonic Toughbook CF-18 || <!--Chipset-->Core || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|gma for i915}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 SigmaTel}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|usb2 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL 8139C}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel swap for atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Deadwoods' D02 test || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Panasonic Toughbook CF-29 CF-30 || <!--Chipset-->Core || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA || <!--Audio-->AC97 SigmaTel || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139C || <!--Wireless-->Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->MSI Microstar PR210 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA ATi RS690M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio through speaker / head phones but not hdmi}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8111 8169}} || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR242x AR542x aw-ge780 mini pci-e || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - ENE PCI based SD card with no bios boot option |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Advent 7106 EAA-88 || <!--Chipset-->Pentium M 1.7GHz with 915GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D and 3D tunnel 187 gearbox 67}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 Intel ICH6 with Conexant Cx20468 31 codec playback head phones only}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200BG Fn/F2 replaced with atheros mini pci in small base panel - startup errors in wireless manager}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 14" cheap rubbish sadly - fan noise through audio channel - |- | <!--Name-->Motion Computing LE1600 PC Slate || <!--Chipset-->915 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->915 || <!--Audio-->Intel AC97 SigmaTel STAC9758 9759 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 serial Wacom digitiser not usb |- | <!--Name-->Panasonic Toughbook CF-51 CF-P1 CF-T5 CF-Y2 || <!--Chipset-->945GMS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom || <!--Wireless-->Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Sony Vaio VGN UX1XN UMPC || <!--Chipset-->Core Solo U1500 1.33GHz with 945GM chipset || <!--IDE-->1.8 inch ZIF || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945GMS || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Marvell Yukon 8036 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->32bit only - 4.5 inch screen ultra mobile PC |- | Sony Vaio VGN SR29VN || Intel ICH9 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE legacy}} || {{partial|ATI HD 3400 (VESA only)}} || {{partial|HD Audio (too quiet)}} || {{yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} || {{no|Marvell 8040}} || {{no|Intel 5100}} || Icaros 1.5 || 2007 32bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Wyse XM Class DELL WYSE Xn0m LAPTOP || <!--Chipset-->AMD T-G56N 1.6 1.65Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->decased 2.5in ssd || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d only AMD 6320}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|EHCI 2.0 with NEC uPD720200 USB 3.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek rtl8169 8111E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 93xx}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 1366 x 768 14" - 2 ddr3l slots max 16gb - 19v coax barrel plug psu - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Huawei Matebook D KPL-W00 Honor Magicbook 2018 || <!--Chipset-->2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|AMD Vega 8 use VESA}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{no|3.1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 14inch 1080p - internal battery - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Avita Pura 14 AVITA-PURAR3, AVITA-PURAR5 Hong Kong tech giant Nexstgo || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R3 3200U, R5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 || <!--Gfx-->Vega 3 (R3) 7 (R5) || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit 1,920 x 1,080 14in IPS but dim 194cd/m² and 59.4% of the sRGB colour gamut - 1 ddr4l sodimm slot - keyboard issues keyboard repair swap requires removal of all - components - flexible plastic build - 3 hr battery internal - |- | <!--Name-->Avita Liber V 3200U Ryzen 5 3500U, Avita Admiror 14 R7 3700U (UK only) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - better build but same 3 hr battery - 14" 1080p screen IPS 80% sRGB gamut - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Huawei Matebook D 15 14 AMD KPR-WX9 Honor Magicbook WAQ9AHNR, Huawei NBLK-WAX9X || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 3500U 4700U 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|AMD Vega 8 use VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{Unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3.1 gen 1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel or Realtek || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 2020 - internal 42W later 56W battery - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - f6.5 recessed webcam |- | <!--Name-->Xiaomi Redmibook 16 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 7 4700U with FCH 51 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->SSD 3 || <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon RX Vega 7 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{no|3.1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8821CE wifi || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit metal 16.1 IPS 99% srgb 240 nits - 46whr battery - no webcam - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Medion AG AKOYA® E14304 (MD63780), e14303 (MSN 30031052) (MD62110), Medion Akoya E15303 (lenovo bought 2011) || <!--Chipset-->4300u or Ryzen7 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->Vega 6 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bits 14" to 15"FHD 1080p - 8gb soldered - 19v 65W round port or usb-c charge psu - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Netbook=== [[#top|...to the top]] * One of the better options if re-partitioning of the hard disk is not suitable or wanted is to go with AROS hosted i.e. run a small linux distro and host AROS on top. AROS can exist on a Windows(TM) install as well. See here for more information [https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=779.0 Linux hosted] and [ Windows hosted] with downloads here [http://aros.sourceforge.net/download.php AROS download page] * installation needs an USB optical drive or an USB pen drive (see below) * PC with CD or DVD to install to a USB pendrive for boot purposes on a netbook * SD card sometimes can [ boot] like Dell 2100, EeePC 1001P, ASUS EeePC 900, acer aspire one d150, MSI Wind U100, [http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Audio-Codec-Comparison-Table/520 Audio Codecs] ====Acer Packard Bell Netbooks==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width=100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Aspire One AOA110 (A110) (ZG5) || Intel 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA (2D and 3D) tunnel 99 and gearbox 84 score}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC6628}} || {{Yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} || {{Yes|RTL8101E - rtl8169}} || {{Yes|AR5006}} atheros 5k || AspireOS 1.8 || 2007 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel A13-045N2A 19V2.37A 45W 5.5x1.7mm - |- | Aspire One AOA150 (A150) (ZG5) || Intel 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|ide mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 2D and accelerated 3D with tunnel 99 and gearbox 84.1 result}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC6628}} || {{Yes|uhci and ehci}} || {{Yes|RTL8101E - rtl8169}} || {{Yes|AR5006}} atheros 5k || AspireOS 1.8 || 2007 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel - |- | Aspire One AOD150 D150 (Compal LA-4781P), AOD110 D110 (ssd) || Intel 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|ide legacy}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{Yes|HDAudio with alc272}}] || {{Yes|USB}} || {{No|Atheros AR8121 AR8113 AR8114 l1e}} || {{Maybe|AR5007EG AR5BXB63 works but Broadcom BCM4312 has no support}} || Icaros Desktop 1.3 || 2008 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel - |- | Aspire One AOD250 D250 emachines em250 || 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|ide legacy}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{Yes|alc272 HD Audio}} || {{Yes}} || {{No|AR8132 (L1c)}} || {{No|BCM4312 or Atheros AR5B95}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2009 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire AO532H (Compal LA-5651p) 533H Pineview || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio playback}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|AR8132 (L1c)}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k}} || [http://www.amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=5968 Tested AspireOS June 2011] || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->emachines eM350 NAV51 || <!--Chipset--> with N450 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 3150 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2 || <!--Comments-->Single core 64bit - 160GB HDD 1GB RAM 10.1" LED backlit screen and Webcam - 3 cell li-ion battery for 3 hours usage - |- | <!--Name-->emachines eM355 || <!--Chipset--> with N455 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->64bit support possible - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One 533 || <!--Chipset-->N455 with NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D 0x8086 0xa011}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| ALC272 codec ich7}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8152 v1.1 1c}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4313}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 and AROS One 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - f2 setup - 10.1inch 1024 x 768 - |- | Aspire One AOD255 AOD255e AOD260 AOHAPPY (Compal LA-6221P) || N570 and Nm10 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|SATA}} || {{Maybe|Intel GMA 3150}} || Audio || USB || {{No|Atheros AR8152 V1.1 (1lc)}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313}} || || a little support |- | Aspire One 522 AO522 (Compal LA-7072p) || 1GHz dual C-50 C50 or C-60 C60 + Hudson M1 || {{N/A}} || SATA || AMD 6250 (ATI 9804) or 6290 || ATI SB CX20584 HD Audio || USB || Atheros 8152 v2.0 l1c || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313 or Atheros ath9k}} || || |- | <!--Name-->AAOD270 Aspire One D270 || <!--Chipset-->N2600 Cedarview || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D on Intel GMA 3650}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8169 RTL8101E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4313 but swap for Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit atom - ddr2 so-dimm 2gb max - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One AO532G (Compal LA-6091p) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One D257 (Quanta ZE6) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire One 722 AO722 P1VE6 || <!--Chipset-->AMD C-60 C60 with SB900 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe| use VESA Ati 6290}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec but no Wrestler HDMI output}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros AR8152 v2.0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9485}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One AO721 (Wistron SJV10-NL) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->AO751 AO751H (Quanta ZA3) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot .S || <!--Chipset-->N280 + || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|legacy}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA950 (2D)}}|| <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC272X || <!--USB--> USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Atheros l1e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros 9k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot .SE || <!--Chipset-->N450 + || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA950 (2D) || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC|| <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot .S2 NAV50 || <!--Chipset-->N455 NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel X3150 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC269 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Atheros || <!--Wireless-->Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot M/A || <!--Chipset-->1.2GHz Athlon L110 + RS690E || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy mode? || <!--Gfx-->AMD ATI Radeon Xpress X1270 (VESA only) || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ATI SBx00 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Asus Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Models eeePC] 700 701 2G 4G 8G Surf || Intel 910GML + ICH7 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 900 2D and 3D tunnel 68 gearbox 43 on 701 800x480}} || {{Yes|ALC662 HD Audio}} || {{Yes|UHCI and EHCI}} || {{No|Atheros L2}} || {{Yes| }} AR5007EG (AR2425) - [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=32391&forum=28&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#583583 works] || NB 2013 and 2.1.1 (best) and 2.1.2 || 2007 32bit - power supplies fail due to bad caps issue psu Power Charger 9.5V 2.5A 24W Charger 4.8*1.7MM - |- | [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Models eeePC] 701SD || Intel 910GML + ICH7 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Maybe|Intel GMA 900 (2D)}} || {{Yes|ALC662 HD Audio}} || {{Yes|UHCI and EHCI}} || {{No|Atheros L2}} || {{No|RTL8187SE swap with Atheros 5k}} || AspireOS 1.7 || 2007 32bit - boot issues but does boot with ATA=32bit,nopoll or ATA=nodma,nopoll |- | [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Models eeePC] 900 || Intel 910GML + ICH7 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Maybe|Intel GMA 900 (2D, 3D in some models)}} || {{Yes|ALC662 HD Audio]}} || {{Yes|UHCI and EHCI}} || {{No|Atheros L2}} || {{Maybe|depends on chipset}} AR5007EG (AR2425) - [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=32391&forum=28&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#583583 works] but not RaLink || AspireOS 1.7 || 2008 32bit - boot issues but does boot with ATA=32bit,nopoll or ATA=nodma,nopoll. 900's may need BIOS upgrade to boot usb optical drives. 3D available in some and not all model revisions - |- | eeePC 900A || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (3D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC269}} || {{Yes|USB2.0}} || {{No|Atheros L1e [1969 1026]}} || {{Yes|Atheros 5k AR242x}} || Nightly Build 2012 05-25 || 2009 32bit |- | eeePC 901 1000 || 945GM || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{Yes|ALC269 HD Audio}} || {{Yes|USB}} || {{No|Atheros L1E (AR8121 AR8113 AR8114)}} || {{No|RaLink Device 2860 swap with Atheros 5k}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2009 32bit |- | eeePC Seashell 1000HA 1000HE 1008 1005HA || N280 + Intel GMA950 || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{Yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC269}} || {{Yes|USB}} || {{Maybe|Realtek but not Atheros AR8132 (L1c)}} || {{No|Atheros AR9285 swap with Atheros 5k}} || Aspire OS 1.6 || 2010 32bit |- | <!--Name-->eeePC 1001ha || <!--Chipset-->GMA945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 950 (2D) || <!--Audio-->ALC269 HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Attansic Atheros AR8132 l1c}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RaLink RT3090 swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2010 32bit |- | eeePC 1001P T101MT 1005PX 1005PE 1015PE Pineview 1001PXD || NM10 and N450 N455 CPU || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio}} || {{Yes|USB 2.0}} || {{No|Atheros AR8132 (l1c)}} || {{No|Atheros AR928x 802.11n}} || Icaros 1.3.3 || 2011 64bit |- | EeePC 1015B 1215B || single C-30 C30 or dual C-50 C50 + Hudson M1 || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{partial|AMD 6250 (VESA only)}} || ATI SBx00 HD Audio || USB || {{No|AR8152 v2.0 atl1c}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313 [14e4 4727]}} || || 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Flare X101CH Cedarview || <!--Chipset-->N2600 + N10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 6300 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros l1c 2.0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Flare 1025CE 1225CE || <!--Chipset-->N2800 + N10 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{dunno|Intel GMA 3600}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros l1c 2.0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Dell Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Inspiron 910 Mini 9 PP39S Vostro A90 || GMA945 || {{Maybe|STEC 8G 16G 32G IDE PATA Parallel ATA miniPCIE SSD 50MM / 70MM very slow}} || {{N/A| }} || {{yes|Intel GMA 2D and 3D opengl1}} || {{yes|ALC268 HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB2 boots and works}} || {{yes|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8102E}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4310 and 4312 swap with atheros 5k bx32}} || ICAROS 1.3 but Icaros 2.3 (pci issues), AROS One 2.6 and Tiny AROS (digiclock startup) mouse cursor vanishes || 2009 32bit - 9inch 1024x600 screen - 1 ddr2 sodimm slot max 2gig - 19v 1.58a - 0 boot disk select - cr2032 battery under laptop base cover, while mem 2GB max under base flap - |- | <!--Name-->Mini 10 1010 PP19S || <!--Chipset-->Atom Z520 Z530 Intel US15W Poulsbo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel GMA 500 (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio ALC269 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 RTL8102E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or BCM4312}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - 10.10 inch 16:9, 1366 x 768 glossy - 28whr or 56wHr battery options - |- | [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Dell%20Mini%2010v%20(Inspiron%201011) Mini 10v 1011] [http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/InspironMini10v ] || Intel 950 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|ide legacy mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || HD Audio || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|RTL8102E 8103E}} || {{no|Dell 1397 Wireless}} || || |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron Mini 1018 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode }} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D, no VGA output)}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio head phones only - speaker and micro phone do not work}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|RTL8188CE or AR928X}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.5.1 || <!--Comments--> |- | Latitude 2100 || Intel Atom N270 N280 1.60Ghz GMA 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{Yes|set to IDE in bios as ahci not working || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D and 3D with tunnel 98 and gearbox 84)}} || {{yes|HD Audio with ALC272 codec}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM5764M}} || {{No|Intel 5100 or BCM4322 DW 1510 half height mini pcie use small Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->AspireOS 1.8, Icaros 2.1.1 and AROS One USB 2.4 || 2009 32bit ddr2 sodimm max 2G - [https://sites.google.com/site/arosaspireone/about-aspire-one Webcam and card reader not working] lcd cable over hinge an issue - f12 bios and boot - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude 2110 2120 || <!--Chipset-->N470 1.83Ghz, N455 1.6Ghz, N550 1.5Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|ATA mode in bios not ahci}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 3150 2D only}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with ALC269 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| swap for Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - ddr2 sodimm |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====HP Compaq Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | HP Mini 2133 || VIA C7-M P4M900 / 8237 VX700 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{maybe|VIA Chrome 9 HC (VESA only)}} || VT1708/A HD Audio || USB || {{no|Broadcom Corp NetXtreme BCM5788}} || {{no|Broadcom Corp BCM4312}} || || |- | HP mini 1000 Mi 2140 ks145ut || N270 + 945GM || {{N/A}} || SATA || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D and opengl1 3d)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio (playback tested)}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{no|Broadcom Corp BCM4312 hard blocked}} || || 2011 32Bit - unable to change wifi card |- | <!--Name-->HP Mini 700 702 || <!--Chipset-->N270 + 945GSE || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio IDT 92HD75B (111d:7608, only playback tested)}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom hard locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | Compaq HP Mini 110 110-3112sa || 945GM Express || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{yes|HD Audio IDT STAC 92xx}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{no|Atheros}} || {{no|Broadcom hard blocked Fn+F12}} || || 2011 32bit - unable to change wifi |- | HP Mini 200 210 || 945GM NM10 Express || {{N/A}} || SATA || Intel GMA 950 || HD Audio || USB || RTL8101E RTL8102E || {{no|Broadcom BCM4312 hard locked}} || || |- | HP Mini 311 DM1 (Quanta FP7) || N280 + ION LE || {{N/A}} || SATA || nVidia Geforce ION || HD Audio || USB || eth || {{No|hard locked}} || || 2009 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Wireless--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |} ====Lenovo Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | IdeaPad S9 S9e(3G) S10 S10e(3G) || 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{no|ALC269 or SigmaTel HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Broadcom NetLink BCM5906M}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4312 hard blocked}} || || little support |- | IdeaPad S12 || N270 + Nvidia ION LE MCP79 || {{N/A}} || SATA || nVidia C79 ION [Quadro FX 470M] || ALC269 HD Audio || USB || Broadcom || Intel hard blocked || || Does not boot - cause unknown |- | S10-2 || 945GME and N280 CPU || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{no|ALC269 HD Audio}} || {{yes}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4312 hard blocked}} || Icaros 1.3 || |- | S10-3 || NM410 and N450 CPU || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || {{no|HD Audio ALC269}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|Atheros 9285 or Broadcom BCM4312 hard blocked}} || Icaros 1.3 || |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad 100S || <!--Chipset-->Atom Z36xxx Z37xxx Series SoC || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel || <!--Audio-->Intel SST Audio Device (WDM) || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8723BS hard blocked || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Samsung Netbooks==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | [http://www.amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=616910&topic_id=33755&forum=28#616910 NC10] || 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{partial|SigmaTel HD Audio (playback only)}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{maybe|rtl8169 works but not Marvell 88E8040 sky2}} || {{yes|AR5007EG}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2009 32bit - Nano silver on keyboard and lcd ribbon cable over hinge issues |- | [http://www.sammywiki.com/wiki/Samsung_NC20 NC20] || VIA VX800 || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{maybe|VIA Chrome9 (VESA only)}} || ALC272 GR (VT1708A) HD Audio || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{yes|Atheros AR5001}} || || 2009 32bit - little support |- | N110 N120 || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{yes|ALC272 HD Audio or ALC6628}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{no|Realtek rtl8187}} || || 2009 32bit - some support - Namuga 1.3M Webcam none |- | N130 || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{yes|SATA in IDE mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 2D and opengl 1.x 99.5 tunnel 99 gearbox}} || {{yes|Intel HD with ALC272 ALC269 codec playback}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|RTL 8169.device - 8101e 8102e}} || {{no|rtl 8192se rtl8187 too small an area to swap for atheros 5k}} || || 2009 32bit - 10.x inch 1024 x 600 - Namuga 1.3M Webcam - front slide power on and f2 setup bios - keyboard 17.7mm Pitch is made with Silver Nano (Anti-Bacterial) tech - small touchpad - 1 ddr2 2rx16 sodimm slot 2G max - 44Wh |- | <!--Name-->Go NP-N310 || <!--Chipset-->N270 + 945GME || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio ALC6628}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|Atheros5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2010 32bit - N280 version changed specs |- | N510 || N270 euro N280 uk + ION MCP79 || {{N/A}} || SATA || nVidia C79 ION [Quadro FX 470M] || HD Audio || USB || Marvell 88E8040 || Realtek 8192E || || Does not boot - cause unknown |- | <!--Name-->NC110 Axx || <!--Chipset-->NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Sata || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC269 codec A9M22Q2 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4313 or Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - |- | NF210 Pineview || n455 or n550 + N10 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{maybe|Intel GMA 3150 (needs retesting, VESA works)}} || {{yes|HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || Wireless || || 2011 64bit - some support |- | NP N145 Plus || n450 + NM10 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D, no VGA output)}} || {{yes|Realtek HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{no|Atheros AR9285}} || || 2010 some support but often the trackpad does not work |- | <!--Name-->NS310 NP-NS310-A03UK || <!--Chipset-->N570 with NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use Vesa 2d }} || <!--Audio-->{{yes| ich7}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 realtek 810xe }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|bcm4313 }} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit Atom N570 or 1.5 GHz Intel Atom N550 dual core processor, 1 DDR3 sodimm slot memory, a 250GB hard drive, and a 10.1 inch, 1024 x 600 pixel 10.1" W7St - 2300mAh short life - |- | <!--Name-->[https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Samsung_N150 N150] NB30 || <!--Chipset-->MN10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8040}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285 or Realtek 8192E}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->a little support |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.kruedewagen.de/wiki/index.php/Samsung_N220 N210 N220] N230 || <!--Chipset-->N450 + NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC269 || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->a little |- | <!--Name-->NC110 Pxx Cedarview || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{dunno|Intel GMA 3600}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6000g}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Toshiba Netbooks==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->NB100 || <!--Chipset-->945GM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|legacy}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC262 HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|AR5001}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 32bit - some support |- | <!--Name-->Mini NB200 series NB205 || <!--Chipset-->N280 + GSE945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|IDE legacy mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->ALC272 HD Audio || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2009 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->Mini 300 series NB305 || <!--Chipset-->N455 with NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 3150 (2D) || <!--Audio-->ALC272 HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->{{no|AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Mini 500 series NB505 NB520 NB550-10v || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 3150 (2D) || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8176 RTL 8188CE || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit - |- | [http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Toshiba-NB550D-AMD-Fusion-Netbook.46551.0.html Mini NB550D 10G] 108 (c30) 109 (c50) || C-50 + M1 || {{N/A}} || SATA || AMD 6250 (VESA only) || HD Audio || USB || Realtek 8111e rtl8169 || Atheros 9k || || 2011 64bit Realtek SD card reader |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Misc Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="30%" |Comments |- | Cammy's A1600 || GME945 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{yes|Intel GMA950 (2D)}} || {{yes|HD Audio playback}} || {{yes}} || {{no|JMC 250/260}} || Wireless || Icaros 1.2.4 || |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Mini Ui 3520 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 945 || <!--ACPI--> || <!--SATA-->{{yes}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->ALC269 HD Audio || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|AR5001}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->good |- | Guillemot Hercules eCafe EC-900 H60G-IA], Mitac MiStation and Pioneer Computers Dreambook Light U11 IL1 || Intel 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{yes|Intel GMA950 (2D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio (playback only)}} || {{yes|uhci and ehci}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|RAlink RT2860}} || || Slowly gaining support |- | <!--Name-->Hannspree Hannsnote SN10E2 24 48 || <!--Chipset-->N450 + NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->IDE legacy mode || <!--Gfx-->Pineview Intel (2D) || <!--Audio-->ALC HD Audio || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Atheros l1c || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9285 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion--> |- | MSI Wind U90/U100 || GME945 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{partial|HD Audio ALC888s (playback only?)}} || {{yes|uhci 1.1 and ehci 2.0}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|RaLink RT2860 RT2700E or rtl8187se (u100x)}} || Icaros 1.3 || |- | Advent 4211 || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || Intel GMA950 (2D) || ALC HD Audio || USB || rtl8169 || {{no|Intel 3945 ABG}} || || MSI U100 clone |- | <!--Name-->Hannspree Hannsnote SN10E1 || <!--Chipset-->N270 + GMA945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->ALC HD Audio || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E RTL8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|RaLink RT2860}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->MSI U100 clone |- | <!--Name--> Vaio VGN-P11Z | <!--Chipset--> | <!--IDE--> {{dunno}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{Partial|Intel (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Marvell}} | <!--Wireless--> {{no|Atheros AR928X}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 2.0.3 | <!--Comments--> Rarely boots! |- | <!--Name-->Sony VPC-W11S1E | <!--Chipset-->N280 with 945GSE | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA950 - hdmi}} | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with realtek codec | <!--USB-->3 USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8132}} | <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285 swap with 5k}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit - 10.1" 1366 x 768 glossy - 3hr battery life - |- | <!--Name-->Archos 10 Netbook || <!--Chipset-->Atom with ICH7 NM10 945GSE || <!--IDE-->{{No }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC662 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI Wind U135 DX MS-N014 || <!--Chipset-->Intel N455 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D only accelerated}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ALC662 rev 1}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|RTL}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR 9K}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->needs noacpi notls added to grub boot line to start up |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Desktop Systems=== [[#top|...to the top]] Most Intel Atom and equivalent AMD Fusion CPUs / APUs are faster than Intel P3s but still some way short of P4 or Dual Core performance. {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" | <!--OK-->{{Yes|'''Works well'''}} || <!--May work-->{{Maybe|'''Works a little'''}} || <!--Not working-->{{No|'''Does not work'''}} || <!--Not applicable-->{{N/A|'''N/A not applicable'''}} |- |} ====Acer==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.acer.com/ac/en/ID/content/support-product/486;-; Veriton X270 VTX270] Intel Core 2 Duo ED7400C or Pentium dual-core UD7600C with 630i | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d Nvidia 7100 VGA and HDMI connections}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe| with realtek codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|4 rear and 5 front}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe| nForce}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 dvd | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit capable but would not fully boot, DHCP address timeout too short and failed often. Put in a third party NIC, worked - 1 PCI Express x16 slot and a free PCI x1 slot - internal thin long psu with 12pin - |- | <!--Name--> Imedia S1710 with Intel Dual Core E5200 | <!--IDE--> {{Yes|SATA/AHCI}} | <!--SATA--> {{Maybe|Native IDE}} | <!--Gfx--> {{Yes|Nvidia nForce 7100}} | <!--Audio--> {{Yes|Nvidia MCP73}} | <!--USB--> {{Yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{No|NVIDIA MCP73 Ethernet}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 14-09-2023, AROS One 2.3 | <!--Comments--> 2009 64-bit - Boot over USB not working on front - 2 DDR2 dual channel max 8GB - DEL for entering Bios - F12 for boot menu - Bus weird, could be reason for Ethernet issue |- | <!--Name-->Acer Revo AR1600, R1600 AR3600, R3600 Packard Bell iMax Mini, ACER Veriton N260G N270G slim nettop subcompact | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Native IDE mode, '''when it works''' boots}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Nvidia ION GeForce 9300M - nouveau 3d - '''when it boots''' 400 fps in shell'ed gearbox, 278 in tunnel, 42 in teapot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with alc662 codec but nothing from HDMI audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Nvidia USB boot usb2 stick issues and slower with usb3 drives}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|MCP79 nForce}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 Intel Atom 230 N280 - 20cm/8" high 1 ltr noisy fan - very often boot stuck around ehciInit - DEL setup F12 boot options - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4GB - 19v special barrel size 5.5mm/1.7mm psu - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4GB - atheros 5k AR5BXB63 wifi - |- | <!--Name-->Revo AR3610 R3610 3610 Atom 330 nettop subcompact dual core | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Native IDE mode, '''when it works''' boots}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Nvidia ION GeForce 9400M LE MCP79MX - nouveau 3d - '''when it boots''' 400 fps in shell'ed gearbox, 278 in tunnel, 42 in teapot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with Realtek alc662 rev1 alc662-hd later ALC885 codec but nothing from HDMI audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Nvidia USB with 1% chance boot with usb2 sticks, more issues with usb3 drives}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|RTL 8211CL MCP79 nForce}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 1.5, 1.6 and 2.4 usb | <!--Comments-->2010 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 20cm/8" high 1 ltr noisy fan - boot often stuck around ehciInit, SATA, etc try ATA=off, non usb hub keyboard, - DEL bios setup, F12 BBS POPUP/drive boot - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4GB - 19v barrel psu with smaller inner pin size 5.5mm/1.7mm - replace wifi RT3090 ver c (linux) with atheros 5k - |- | <!--Name-->REVO AR3700 R3700 3700 Atom D525 dual core - ACER Veriton N282G *one long beep followed by two short, bios damaged *looping one long two short, a video card fault *two short beeps... CMOS damaged *got one long and one short beep... board error? | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE ready in Bios}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia ION2 GT218 ION vga fine '''but''' hdmi fussy over display used - nouveau 2d & 3d gearbox 404 tunnel 292 teapot 48}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDA Intel with Realtek ALC662 rev1 codec, head phones only but nothing from NVidia HDMI}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|Intel® NM10 Express (NM10 is basically an ICH7 with a die shrink and IDE removed) USB boots usb, installs usb, accesses ok}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169 8111g}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS one USB 1.5 and 1.6 | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 20cm/8" high 1 ltr noisy fan - early 2 ddr2 sodimm slots but later 2 ddr3 sodimm slots 1Rx8 max 4GB - 19v barrel psu thinner pin - replace wifi RT3090 ver d with atheros 5k mini pci-e - ACPI Suspend Mode = S1, S3 (STR), S4 - Power on PCIe * Known Acer issue, Boot into bios, set bios to UEFI and reboot, set bios back to defaults and reboot, blank display, repair with reflash of 8 pin Winbond W25Q socketed bios chip with ch341a using 2011/09/19 P01.B0L, 2011/05/09 P01.A4, 2011/05/03 P01.A3L, 2010/12/27 P01.A2L, 2010/12/27 P01.A2 amiboot.rom - |- | <!--Name-->Revo 70 (RL70) with or without dvdrw | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->6320 or 6310 | <!--Audio-->HD audio ALC662-VCO-GR codec | <!--USB-->USB2, 1.1 Hudson D1 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD E450 1.65GHz - 19v 65w barrel psu thinner inner pin - 2 DDR3L single channel max 4GB - replace wifi RT3090 ver d with atheros 5k mini pci-e - 1lr or 1.5 ltr dvdrw case 209.89 mm, (D) 209.89 mm, (H) 35.35 mm - del enter bios - |- |} ====Asus==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->EEEbox B202 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA950 | <!--Audio-->Intel Azalia HDaudio with Realtek ALC662 or ALC888-GR CODEC | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 or JM250 | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros | <!--Comments-->internal 3 types of wifi chipset not supported |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Dell==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name--> Precision 340 | <!--IDE--> {{yes}} | <!--SATA--> {{n/a}} | <!--Gfx--> {{n/a}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|Intel AC97}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 1.1 (UHCI)}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|3Com}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Dimension 2400 | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 82845GL Brookdale G/GE (VESA 640x480 by 16)}} | <!--Audio-->{{Unk|AC97 with ADI codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|UHCI EHCI}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom 440x 4401}} | <!--Test Distro-->[http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=832495 Icaros 1.4] | <!--Comments-->Graphics chipset is capable of higher resolution. |- | <!--Name-->Dimension 4600 | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{dunno}} | <!--Gfx-->{{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 (use rear black port)}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|UHCI/EHCI}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Intel PRO/100}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5.2 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 170L | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|Intel AC97}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|Intel PRO/100}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex GX260 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|Intel AC97}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Intel PRO/1000}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | Optiplex GX270 | {{yes|Working}} | {{partial|IDE mode}} | {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | {{yes|Intel AC97}} | {{yes|USB 2.0}} | {{no|Intel PRO/1000}} | Icaros 1.5.2 | <!--Comments--> |- | Optiplex GX280 | {{yes|Working}} | {{partial|IDE mode}} | {{maybe|Intel GMA (only VESA tested)}} | {{yes|Intel AC97}} | {{yes|USB 2.0}} | {{no|Broadcom}} | Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex GX520 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{yes|Intel GMA}} | <!--Audio--> {{partial|Intel AC97 (no line-out)}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 745 | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel GMA (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{partial|HD Audio (no volume control)}} | <!--USB--> {{partial|Only keyboard mouse (legacy mode)}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 755 | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel GMA (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Intel Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.5.1 | <!--Comments--> Around 25 second delay in booting from USB |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 990 | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|non-RAID mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel HD (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Intel Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 360 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|ordinary boot gives VGA mode only - VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|HD Audio (Analog Devices ID 194a)}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->Aspire Xenon | <!--Comments-->poor support |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse Vx0 (V90 V30), Vx0L (V10L V90L), Vx0LE (V30LE V90LE) from VIA C7 800GHz to Eden 1.2GHz | <!--IDE-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d for S3 UniChrome Pro}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 VIA VT8233A with ?? codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 back and 1 front USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|early models work but later VT6102-3 do not}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.2 | <!--Comments-->2006 to 2009 32bit - 12V 4A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm - 1 sodimm DDR 333MHz SO-DIMM later DDR2 - early V90s do seem to have a reliability problem - |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.poppedinmyhead.com/2021/01/wyse-cx0-thin-client-notes-experiences.html Dell Wyse Cx0] C00LE, C10LE, C30LE, C50LE, C90LE, C90LE7, C90LEW VIA C7 Eden 1GHz | <!--IDE-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d VX855 VX875 Chrome 9}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|some VIA VT8237A VT8251 HDA with ?? codec work}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 outside 2 inside USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|VT6120 VT6121 VT6122 Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2010 to 2013 32bit - [https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=815.0 boots and works] - 12V 2.5A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm - 1 sodimm ddr2 - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Dell RxxL Rx0L thin client *R00L Cloud PC of Wyse WSM *R10L Wyse Thin OS *R50L Suse Linux Enterprise *R90L Win XP Embedded *R90LW Win Embedded Standard 2009 *R90L7 Win Embedded Standard 7 | <!--IDE-->128Mb IDE or 1GB | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|SATA Hyperdisk}} | <!--Gfx-->AMD 690E RS690M Radeon Xpress 1200 1250 1270 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 usb2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit AMD Sempron™ 210U SMG210UOAX3DVE 1.5GHz SB600, up to 4GB single slot 240-pin DDR2 DIMM, 19v barrel psu, DEL key bios - Late 2012 2 data sockets added but only CN18 be used with two white sockets (CN13 & CN15) can used to power the SATA device "4-pin Micro JST 1.25mm |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 390 sff small form factor - mt mini tower desktop - dt full desktop | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|1 pci-e}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|realtek}} | <!--Test Distro-->aros one 1.6 usb | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit dual i3 2xxx - kettle iec plug psu cable - add nvidia gf218 gfx - error code 3 mobo or cpu - |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 3010 sff small form factor | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|1 pci-e}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom 57XX}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit dual i3 3xxx - kettle iec plug psu cable - |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 7010 sff small form factor | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|1 pci-e}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom or Intel 825xx}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit dual i3 3xxx Q77 - kettle iec plug psu cable - add pci-e ethernet and nvidia gf218 gfx - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 5010 thin client ThinOS D class (D10D D00D D00DX, Dx0D), PCoIP (D10DP) or D90D7, 5040 *username: Administrator, admin, [blank] *password: Fireport, DellCCCvdi, rappot, Wyse#123, Administrator, administrator, r@p8p0r+ | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE mode may need 30cm ext cable as small area for half-slim sata ssd - decased new ssd??}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d 1400x1050 HD6250E IGP by using DVI to hdmi cable and 1 display port, no hdmi port}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD 6.34 audio chipset detected but codec alc269 working from one case speaker - none if v6.29 used}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|most 5010 have 4 USB 2.0 but D90Q7 has 2 USB3 instead}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8168 8169 - rev 1.?? 8111? - rev 1.91 8111E}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit slow AMD G-T44R 1.2Ghz later G-T48E 1.4Ghz Dual Bobcat Brazos BGA413 - Del for BIOS - p key to select boot with noacpi - single DDR3 sodimm slot max 4Gb, (8Gb hynix 2rx8 ddr3l)? (remove small board to upgrade) - passive no fan - 15cm/6" small 1ltr case and lack of expansion options - PA16 19v barrel psu Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 7010 DTS thin client (Z class Zx0D) *2011 Zx0 Z90D7 2GF/2GR *2013 Z10D *2014 Z50D 2GF/2GR *2012 Cisco VXC 6000 CVXC-6215-K9 white | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|Bios set Sata mode to IDE mode and grub boot add 'noacpi' for half slim sata2 ssd or/with 50cm sata ext cable}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d HD6310 6320 Terascale 2 through DVI and DP 1.1a - no 3d support r600 and no hdmi port}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio 6.34 detected but ALC269VB codec works on the one case speaker only}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|2.0 works but NEC 720200 3.0 not detected but sometimes works like 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111e 8111F}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 and Aros One 1.5, 1.9 and 2.3 usb | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 slow cores AMD G-t52R 1.5GHz later G-T56N 1.65 GHz Dual with A50M FCH - 20cm/8" high 1.5ltr larger fanless black plastic case with metal ventilated box inside - 2 desktop DIMM slots max 16GB - miniPCIe CN14 no msata ssd support in bios - PA-16 19v external psu Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm - 2 40cm SMA female WiFi Antenna to IPEX IPX u.fl Ufl Cable pigtail needed - does not like uefi boot devices - |- | <!--Name-->Wyse 7020 Thin Client * 2013 Quad-core AMD GX-420CA 2.0 GHz (25W) - * 2018 Zx0Q Quad-core AMD GX-415GA 1.5 GHz (15W) with Quad display 3dp and 1dvi | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 sata port | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d only for AMD Radeon HD8400E radeonsi (dual display) or AMD Radeon HD 8330E IGP with AMD Radeon E6240 Seymour E6460 (quad display), no hdmi ports}} | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 x USB2.0 works but 2 USB3 issues | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 quad eKabini Jaguar cores - two SODIMM sockets layered in centre of mobo DDR3L RAM - Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm ac psu 9mm plug is too short but 14mm length is fine - 15cm/6" high smaller 1ltr case and lack of expansion options - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse Dx0Q (5020) D90Q8 NJXG4 AMD G-Series | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 sata port | <!--Gfx-->HD 8330E | <!--Audio--> with Realtek codec | <!--USB-->4 x USB2.0 works but 2 USB3 issues | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 Quad-core AMD GX-415GA 1.5 GHz - 2 layered near edge of mobo 204-pin DDR3L SODIMM (bottom one tricky to insert) - 19v Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm - passive no fan - 15cm/6" high smaller 1ltr case and lack of expansion options |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 5060 N07D thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE bios mode for sata2 port}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Vesa 2d - AMD R5E GCN2 IGP Sea Islands thru dp1 with an hdmi adapter no output thru dp2 - no hdmi dvi ports}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio with Realtek ALC231 codec head phones only}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|4 x USB2.0 works but 2 USB3 issues}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 realtek 8169 8111h}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 1.6 usb | <!--Comments-->2017 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 quad GX-424CC 19.5v external psu - CN-0Y62H1 mobo with 2 layered ddr3l 16Gb max sodimm slots at edge of mobo, bottom 0 one blocking - passive no fan so quiet - 15cm/6" high smaller 1ltr case and lack of expansion options - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Wyse 3040 (N10D) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Intel | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 4c4t Intel Cherry Trail x5 Z-8350 (1.44 GHz Quad) - two versions, one is 5V-3A, the other is 12V-2A - 2 GB DDR3L 1600 MHz, 8 GB or 16 GB eMMC flash chip, all soldered down - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Fujitsu Siemens==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="15%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Scenic [http://uk.ts.fujitsu.com/rl/servicesupport/techsupport/ProfessionalPC/Scenic/ScenicE/ScenicE.htm E600] (compact desktop) | | | {{partial|VESA only}} | {{yes|AC97}} | | {{no|Intel PRO/1000}} | {{dunno}} | Nice small, silent PC with good AROS support. |- | Scenic T i845 | {{dunno}} | {{n/a}} | {{n/a}} | {{dunno|Intel AC97}} | {{dunno|UHCI}} | {{dunno|Intel PRO/100}} | Icaros 1.5.2 | AROS does not boot |- | <!--Name-->Futro S200 S210 S220 and later S300 | <!--IDE-->{{yes| compactflash CF card max ??}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 315PRO PCI/AGP }} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 via }} | <!--USB-->{{unk|via uhci and ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|via VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74) }} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - TR5670 Rev 1.4 mother with Transmeta TM5800 cpu - pci socket - single SODIMM socket for DDR memory PC2700S max 512MB - |- | <!--Name-->Futro S400 | <!--IDE-->{{yes| but swap with compactflash CF card already with AROS installed}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS741CX }} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 SiS7018}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|sis uhci and ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|rtl8169 }} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - AMD Geode NX1500 1GHz gets hot - SiS 963L / SiS 741CX chipset - 12V 4.2A 4-pin (DP-003-R) psu - single SODIMM socket for DDR PC2700S max 1G - large case 246 x 48 x 177cms torx screws - pci socket - |- | <!--Name-->FUJITSU Futro S700 and S900 Thin Client (based on mini-ITX motherboard D3003-A12, D3003-C1 lesser variant of [https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/Futro/s900/TechNotes_V3.1_Mini-ITX_D3003-S.pdf D3003-S]) *G-T56N 1.65GHz *G-T40N 1.00GHz *G-T44R 1.20GHz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 sata data socket but mSata | <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 6320, HD 6250, HD 6290 dvi or displayport (DP runs higher) | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->{{yes|two USB2 front sockets and four on the rear}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit AMD slow atom-like and fanless - 20V 2A psu 5.5mm/2.1mm coax (S900) - mSATA 1GB-16GB - 2 DDR3L SODIMM sockets max 8GB tricky to run 1333 MHz on the Futro S900 - proprietary X2 PCI-e - 1 PCI socket but need a right-angle adaptor - |- | <!--Name-->esprimo p420 e85 desktop case | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->Intel 4600 or old Geforce in pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio realtek alc671 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - 16 pin special psu - |- | <!--Name-->esprimo E420 e85+ SFF case | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->Intel 4600 or low profile pci-e card | <!--Audio-->HDAudio realtek alc671 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - 16ish pin special psu - hd under front metal bracket, take front cover off first with 3 tabs - 3 slim pci-e slots - |- | <!--Name-->Futro S520 AMD dual 1.0Ghz codenamed "Steppe Eagle" * GX-210HA @ 1.0GHz * GX-212ZC @ 1.2GHz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->no sata - 4Gb or 16Gb flash memory soldered to the board | <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon HD 8210E (GX210HA) or AMD Radeon R1E (GX212ZC) | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111e | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - smaller than ITX 160mm x 160mm Fujitsu D3314-A11 - 19V 3.4A PSU standard 5.5mm/2.1mm coax plug - 1 ddr3 sodimm slot - |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu Futro S720 ThinClient D3313-B13 D3313-F *2014 64bit AMD GX-217GA 1.65GHz VFY:S0720P8009FR VFY:S0720P8008DE VFY:S0720P4009GB *2015 64bit AMD GX-222GC 2.20GHz VFY:S0720P702BDE VFY:S0720P702BFR all begin VFY:S0720P and end two digit country code | <!--IDE--> {{N/A|}} | <!--SATA--> {{Yes|up to 2 Sata-cable-connector with space in casing so normal SSD/HDD over Sata was running very well on AHCI and IDE-Mode and 2242 mSata}} | <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|use VESA 2D for AMD Radeon HD 8280E IGP ( islands) or later R5E IGP ( islands)}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|HDAudio ALC671 codec partially working, external audio speaker}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|4 rear USB 2.0 but not front 2 USB 3.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8169}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB 2.0 | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit supports AVX and SSE 4.1 - 1 ddr3 Sodimm slot max 8Gb - 19V-20V 2A 5.5mm/2.5mm coax - D3313-B13 stripped down Mini-ITX mobo D3313-S1/-S2/-S3 (eKabini) D3313-S4/-S5/-S6 - SATA data socket can be located under the fins of the cpu heatsink is fanless - mPCIe socket for wireless card - |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu FUTRO S920 D3313-E D3313-G *2016 AMD GX-222GC SOC 2.20GHz Dual *2017 AMD G-Series GX-415GA (1.50 GHz, Quad Core, 2 MB, AMD Radeon™ HD 8330E) *2017 AMD G-Series GX-424CC 2.40 GHz Quad | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{yes|2242 mSata and 1 Sata-cable-connector with space in casing so normal SSD/HDD over Sata possible}} | <!--Gfx--> {{yes|use VESA 2D for Radeon R5E GCN2/3 IGP}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|HDAudio ALC671 codec partially working}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|4 rear USB 2.0, front 2 USB 3.1 downgradable to 2.0 in BIOS setting}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8169}} | <!--Test Distro--> AROS One USB 2.4 | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 so dimm slot with max of 8 GB - 19v barrel psu 5.5mm 2.5mm - SATA data socket can be located under the fins of the heatsink - mPCIe a e keyed socket for wireless card - propetary X2 connector with official raizer to X1 connector - almost silent background noise, not affecting sound quality in any way |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu Thin Client Futro S5011 S7011 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->{{No|Vesa 2D for AMD Vega 3 on 2 dp 1.4}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ALC623 codec}} | <!--USB-->USB3 USB 3.2 Gen 2 front and 3 usb2 rear | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - AMD Ryzen Dual Core R1305G or R1505G 1ltr case - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - TPM 2.0 - 19v 3.42amp round coax or usb-c 20c 3.25a external psu - |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu FUTRO S9011 Thin Client VFY:S9011THU1EIN || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{No|Vesa 2D for AMD Vega 3 on 2 dp 1.4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ALC623 codec}} || <!--USB-->USB3 USB 3.2 Gen 2 front and 3 usb2 rear || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit Ryzen Embedded R1606G - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - TPM 2.0 - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ====HP Compaq==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Compaq presario 7360 | <!--IDE-->{{yes|Working}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|AC97 via}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|issues}} | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Compaq EP Series 6400/10 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{N/A}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|ISA}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 1.1}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{N/A}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Evo D510 | {{yes|Working}} | {{N/A}} | {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | {{yes|AC97}} | {{yes|Working}} | {{yes|Intel PRO/100}} | Icaros 1.5 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Compaq DX2000 MT | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel Extreme 2 (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|detects AC97 but no support for ADI AD1888 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|OHCI/EHCI }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82526EZ e1000}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.51 | <!--Comments-->boots ok but no audio |- | <!--Name-->Compaq DX 2200 | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200] (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{dunno|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|OHCI/EHCI issues }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments-->issues |- | <!--Name--> d230 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|UDMA}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{partial|Intel AC97 (speaker and headphones only, no line-out)}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.4.5 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->HP Pavilion a220n || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|VESA 1024x768 on nVidia GF4 MX with 64MB shared video ram}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ALC650 AC'97 comp.}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8201BL 10/100 LAN}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.5|| <!--Comments-->2004 32bit athlon xp 2600+ Socket 462 / Socket A - 2 dimm ddr pc2700 - |- | <!--Name-->t500 | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|FX5200 (2D; 3D with older driver)}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 ICH4 ALC658D}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|UHCI/EHCI}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8101L 8139}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2012-09-22 | <!--Comments-->2004 |- | <!--Name-->DC7700 | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 2D}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes| ICH8}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|82566DM e1000e}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2013-??-?? | <!--Comments-->2006 Some support at low cost |- | <!--Name-->HP dc 7600 CMT | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ACL 260}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO/1000 GT}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP t5000 thin client series t5500 t5510 t5515 PC538A or PC542A t5700 t5710 Transmeta Crusoe Code Morphing TM 5400 5600 800Mhz | <!--IDE-->128mb to 512MB | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->Ati Radeon 7000M | <!--Audio-->VIA with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|Issues}} | <!--Ethernet-->VIA Rhine 2 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2006 32bit - ddr max 1GB - F10 setup - all t51xx and some t55xx units will not include a SODIMM slot - |- | <!--Name-->HP t5000 thin client series CN700 *HSTNC-002L-TC t5135, t5530 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d 128Mb Via S3 1600 x 1200 32-bit colour | <!--Audio-->AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102 VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit t5135 appears identical to the t5530 except the CPU VIA Esther 400 MHz - RAM 64Mb (? max) - 8 x USB2.0 - 12V 3.33A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm |- | <!--Name-->HP t5720, t5725 HSTNC-001L-TC | <!--IDE-->{{unk| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d SiS741GX 2048 x 1536 32-bit colour | <!--Audio-->AC97 SiS SiS7012 AC'97 | <!--USB-->6 x USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102 VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 8d) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit AMD Geode NX1500 1GHz socketed - RAM 512MB or 1GB, 256MB, 512MB or 1GB - 12V psu - sis DDMA support - custom 1.13 BIOS - pci low profile - |- | <!--Name-->t5000 series VX800 HSTNC-004-TC t5145, t5540, t5545, t5630 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d VIA Chrome9 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio VIA | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|VT6120 VT6121 VT6122 Gigabit (rev 82)}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit - RAM 64Mb (? max) - 8 x USB2.0 - 12V 4.16A Coax: 5.5mm/2.1mm - |- | <!--Name-->t5730w HSTNC-003-TC t5730 | <!--IDE-->{{n/a|ATA 44pin DOM Flash}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d ATI Radeon X1250 2048 x 1536 no 3D | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{Yes|6 x USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 5707M tg3 10/100/1000}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 64bit AMD Sempron 2100+ 1GHz - 1 slot of ddr2 sodimm (Max 2GB) - 12V 4.16A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm - F10 enter bios F12 boot devices - |- | <!--Name-->HSTNC-005-TC gt7720, gt7725 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d AMD RS780G HD 3200 - 2560 x 1600 DVI-D & DVI-H | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->8 x USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5787M}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit AMD Turion Dual Core CPU 2.3GHz - 1 DDR2 200-pin SODIMM - 19V 4.16A Coax 7.4mm/5.0mm (gt7725) - |- | <!--Name-->HP t5740 Thin Client HSTNC-006-TC t5740, t5745, st5742 | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->1 port | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Intel CL40 VGA and DisplayPort connectors}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with IDT codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM57780 Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly build and Icaros | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit Atom N280 - F10 on power up to get into the BIOS screens. F12 brings up the boot options - hp 19V one with a coax connector, outer diameter 4.8mm with inner to be 1.7mm to 1.4mm - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots max 3gb due to 32bit - 1 pci-e slot completely non standard - |- | <!--Name-->t5000 series HSTNC-012-TC VIA Nano u3500 VX900 *t5550 512MB/1GB Windows CE6 R3 *t5565 1GB/1GB HP ThinPro *t5570 2GB/1GB WES 2009 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d VIA ChromotionHD 2.0 GPU Chrome9 | <!--Audio-->VIA 9170 VT1708S codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM57780 Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->32bit - 1 sodimm - 19V 3.42A supply connector standard yellow-tip coax plug 4.8mm/1.8mm "Standard HP Compaq DC Power Plug 4.8mm x 1.5mm / 1.7mm Yellow Tip Connector - |- | <!--Name-->HP t510 Via Eden X2 U4200 HSTNC-012-TC shares features with t5570e, t5565z | <!--IDE-->2G ATA Flash DOM | <!--SATA-->one | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d for Chrome9 VIA ChromotionHD 2.0 gfx}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|VIA VT8237A VT8251 HDA with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|6 USB2 }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit - one slot ddr3 sodimm max 4GB - 19V 3.42A Coax 4.8mm/1.8mm - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP T610 Thin Client and thicker PLUS version AMD G-T56N A55E | <!--IDE-->{{Maybe|}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 6320 1 dp port 1 dvi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->two USB2 on the front, two USB2 and two USB 3 ports on the rear | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM57780}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 204-pin DDR3 1600MHz SODIMMs PC3-12800 under motherboard via removable panel - 19.5V 3A Coax male 7.4mm/5.0mm + centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP T420 Thin Client *AMD Embedded G-Series GX-209JA SOC (1 GHz, 2 cores) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 8180 dvi vga | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->2 front 2 rear USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2015 64bit supports AVX or SSE 4.1 - soldered in place 2GB DDR3 - smaller than usual 19.5V 2.31A Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - usb stick internal for storage - E15 BBR - |- | <!--Name-->HP t520 TPC-W016 *AMD GX-212JC 1.2Ghz (2 core) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 m.2 mounting holes for 2242 and 2260 SSDs SATA (not NVME) | <!--Gfx-->Radeon R2E GCN2 IGP Sea Islands | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->2 USB3 front, 4 USB2 back | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 2017 64 bit supports AVX or SSE 4.1 - 1 204-pin DDR3 SODIMM - 19.5V 3.33A 7.4mm Coax with central pin |- | <!--Name-->HP t620 TPC-I004-TC and t620 PLUS (PRO wider version) TPC-I020-TC *AMD G-Series GX-217GA 2 core APU 1.65GHz *AMD GX-415GA | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->single M.2 2280 socket sata3, mSATA socket removed end of 2014, | <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 8280E graphics 8330E Islands GCN2 IGP - 2 dp ports no dvi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->4 front, 2 back, 1 inside limited space | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit supports AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 DDR3L SODIMMs side by side - mSATA ssd and M.2 SSD are M1.6 screws, M2.0 screws used on most SSDs - 19.5V 3.33A Coax male 7.4mm 5mm with centre pin 85W - |- | <!--Name-->HP T530 *AMD GX-215JJ (2 core) 1.5GHz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 m.2 sata ssd up to 2280 | <!--Gfx-->Radeon R2E | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->1 USB3.1, 1 usb-c front, 4 USB2 back | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2015 64 bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 1 204-pin DDR4 SODIMM - smaller 19.5V 2.31A Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP T730 Wider "Thin" Client TPC-I018-TC Pixar RX-427BB (2c4t) - no display and fans blowing full speed caused by '''disabling internal gpu in bios''' flash L43_0116.bin onto smc MX25L6473F (3.3V 8-PIN SOP (200mil) SPI 25xx) ([https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubleshooting-hardware-devices-and-electronics-theory/troubleshooting-desktop-motherboards-graphics-cards-and-pc-peripherals/bios-schematic-requests/96303-hp-t730-password-locked-bios in the rom rcvry socket under a delicate thin narrow surface flap]) with ch341a alike switchable from 5v, 3.3v to 1.8v | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{partial|Storage bios option to IDE and not AHCI to prevent constant install error messages to DH0: - add noacpi to end of grub boot line - 1 M.2 SATA slot (Key B+M) up to 2280 with T8 torx secure stub}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use VESA for non-vulkan Radeon R7 GCN 2 UVD4.2 Sea Islands with 4 dp outs '''but too easy bricking''' if swapping with 1 PCIe 3.0 x8 slot 30W slim factor low profile 8400gs gt210 nvs295 nvs310 gt1030}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDaudio 6.34 realtek alc221 codec thru case speaker only}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|'''Works''' for 4 USB2 in the back with 2 in the front but '''not''' for 2 USB3 ports on front and 1 more internal (not bootable)}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111HSH-CG set up first in Prefs/Network}} | <!--Test Distro-->boots with most AROS One 32bit USB with added noacpi added to grub boot - Latest distros can select grub boot options with Aros One 64bit USB and Aros One USB 2.8 but system seems to freeze after choice | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit supports AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 DDR3L notebook RAM sodimm stacked slots max 32GB - '''Larger''' 20cm/8" high 3.5ltr case noisy fan - TPM2 - esc/F9 boot selector F10 enter bios - 2 serial and 1 parallel old ports - Key E Wireless - PCIe slot (x16 physical, x8 electrical - 19.5V 4.36A 85w TPC-LA561 HP 7.4mm black-ring-tip power plug, red flashing power button, wrong psu or bad MotherBoard MB - |- | <!--Name-->HP t630 Thin Client TPC-I020-TC *AMD Embedded G-Series SoC GX-420GI quad core 2Ghz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|ahci.device 2 Sata M.2, sata0 up to 2280 (1tb max), sata1 2242 (64gb max), both T8 torx secure stubs}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use VESA for Radeon AMD Wani R7E with 2 displayport 1.2 sockets - no dvi / hdmi}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 6.34 VOID for controller 0x1022 0x157a and not detected ALC255 codec x10ec x0255 aka ALC3234, pins 0x17 as LFE and 0x1b as int speaker}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2 2 front and 2 rear but not 2 front USB3 and 1 inside}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169 8111H}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB 2.2 | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit supports AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 DDR4 SODIMMs side by side speed 1866Mhz limit - 19.5V 3.33A 65W TPC-BA54 Coax male 7.4mm with centre pin - can be easily bricked, might reflash bios with M40 SP149736 - 20cm/8" high 1.5ltr larger fanless case - esc f1 f9 f10 - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq Elite 7200 7300 8200 8300 SFF with kettle IEC psu cable | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE ata legacy only in BIOS}} | <!--Gfx-->i pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|8200 works}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel or Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit dual core - add pci-e rtl8169 ethernet card and pci-e gf210 nvidia low height - |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq Pro 6305 Small Form Factor SFF AMD A75 chipset (FCH 6 SATA 6 Gb/s, 4 USB 3.0) *AMD Quad A10-5800B *AMD A8-5500B *AMD Dual A6-5400B *AMD A4-5300B | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 7000 Terascale iGPU series Radeon HD 7660D, Radeon HD 7560D, Radeon HD 7540D, Radeon HD 7480D | <!--Audio-->HD ALC221 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 5761}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Elitedesk 705 G1 - SFF *AMD A10-8850B, Quad-Core A10 PRO-7850B, A10-8750B *AMD A10-7800B, A10 PRO-6800B, A8-7600B *AMD A8-8650B, A6-8550B *AMD A6-8350B, Dual A6 PRO 7400B, A4-7300B | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D with Radeon R7 or 8000}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD audio with Realtek ALC221 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom or Intel}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - T15 security torx psu with 6pin PWR 200W connector - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteDesk 705 G2, 705 G3 Mini PC USFF thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2.5in and m.2 | <!--Gfx-->Radeon R7 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5762 GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit AM4 socket with 35W TDP A10-8770E (4c), AMD PRO A6-8570E (2c), AMD Pro A6-9500E, or AMD PRO A10-9700E on AMD B300 FCH - ddr4 sodimm slots - 77 x 175 x 34mm (6.97 x 6.89 x 1.34in) 1L and about 3lbs - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteDesk 705 G4 Mini 1ltr USFF AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (4c t) or 5 2400G (4c t) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Nvme 2280 and 2.5in sata}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 thru DP1.2 port | <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio Conexant codec}} | <!--USB-->USB2 usb3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit Am4 socket - 2 sodimm 16GB max - 19.5v hp socket ext psu - |- | <!--Name-->Elitedesk 705 G4 35w, Elitedesk 705 G4 65w, HP Prodesk 405 G4 35W USFF - AMD Athlon PRO 200GE (2c 4t), 2200GE (4c t) or 2400GE (4c t) on AMD B350 FCH, Elitedesk 705 G5 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Nvme 2280 and older models 2.5in sata}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 3, 8 or 11 with 2 dp1.2 ports | <!--Audio-->HD audio with Conexant CX20632 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111EPH 1Gbe or Realtek RTL8111F | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - realtek wifi 8821 or 8822 - up to 1 ddr4 dimm slots - 12v up to 180w ac - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitedesk 806 G6, Prodesk 405 G6 3400GE Ryzen 5 PRO 3350GE (4c 8t), Ryzen 3 PRO 3200GE 3150GE (4c 4t), AMD Athlon Silver PRO 3125GE (2c 4t) on AMD PRO 565 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2x NVMe or 1x SATA + 1x NVMe, but not all three drives at the same time without serious modding of hd caddie || <!--Gfx-->Vega with DP1.4 port || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC3205 codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->HP t540 1ddr4 slot, t640 2 DDR4 SDRAM sodimm SO-DIMM 260-pin non-ECC max 32gb thin client USFF | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 NVM Express (NVMe) 2230 or 2280 | <!--Gfx-->Vega 3 VGA, DisplayPort | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->2 USB3 gen1 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek Realtek RTL8111HSH or RTL8111E PH-CG | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit ryzen r1000 series Ryzen Embedded R1305G 1.5 GHz, R1505G dual (2c 4t) 2.0Ghz or R1606G ?.?Ghz (2c4t) - Realtek RTL8852AE wifi - 45W psu Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP t740 SFF Thin Client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 M.2, one is sata and other nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 DisplayPort or + optional pci-e 30W Radeon E9173 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E PH-CG 1Gbe | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - Ryzen Embedded V1756B 3.25Ghz quad - 90W 19.5V 4.62A psu Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - sodimm DDR4 max 64Gb - slightly noisy fan - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteDesk 805 G6 Mini 4750GE (8t 16t), Prodesk 405 G6 Ryzen 5 PRO 4650GE (6c 12t) or Ryzen 3 PRO 4350GE (4c 8t) on AMD PRO 565 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2.5in carrier and 2 slots m.2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 with DP1.4 and HDMI flex io2 output options | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC3205 codec | <!--USB-->4 usb a - gen 2 10gig and gen 1 5gig ports | <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit AMD Ryzen 4000 SBC unlocked - 2 sodimm ddr4 slots - wifi6 - 90W ac - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Lenovo==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo Nettop IdeaCentre Q150 (40812HU) | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio--> realtek codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->intel 10/100 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit D510 |- | <!--Name-->M625q Tiny (1L) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->M.2 Sata | <!--Gfx-->Stoney Radeon R2, R3 or R4 and later R5 with 2 dp ports | <!--Audio-->HD audio with ALC233-VB2-CG codec 0x10EC 0x0233 | <!--USB-->{{No|3 usb3.1 Gen 1 and 3 usb2}} | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit all dual cores - e2-9000e or a4-9120e later A9-9420e - heatsink covers 70% area covers wifi - 65w or 135w lenovo rectangle ac - 1 ddr4 2666MHz slot max 8gb - tpm 2.0 - |- | <!--Name-->M715q Gen 1 AMD A6 A8 A10-9700E 9770E (2c2t) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 | <!--Gfx-->R4 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->M715q Gen 2 Ryzen 5 PRO 2400GE 4C 8T | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 | <!--Gfx-->Vega 11 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - f1 enter setup, esc device boot - fixed 1.8v ch341a needed to reflash 1.8v bios if no boot SOP8 DIP8 Winbond W25Q64, MXIC MX25U1635, MX25U6435 - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkCenter M75n nano Ryzen3 3300U | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->ThinkCentre M75q M75q-1 Tiny 1ltr TMM AMD Ryzen 5 PRO Quad 3500 Pro 3400GE (4c 8t) 11a5 soe400, 3200GE (2c 4t) zen1+ 11a4 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|NVMe 2280 1Tb max - untested 2.5inch}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 11 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio codec | <!--USB-->3 USB3 Gen 1 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 65w 20v 3.25A to 135W rectangle psu - 2 sodimm ddr4 sodimm max 32GB locked 2666MHz - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkCentre Ryzen 7 PRO Tiny 1ltr Gen 2 AMD 4000 series 4650GE (6c12t) 4750GE (8c16t) 4350G (4c8t) Zen2 - | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|NVme}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit vendor locked - 20v psu - 2 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkcenter M75q-2 Gen2 refresh | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Radeon Vega | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GigE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 5650GE (6c12t) 5750GE (8c16t) - vendor/PSB can lock your AMD CPU - f12 boot devices |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Thinkcentre M75q Tiny Gen5 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} | <!--SATA-->2 NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 780M dp1.4a or hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 usb-c | <!--Ethernet-->1GBe port | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2024 Ryzen PRO 7 8700GE - 90W yellow rectangle connector psu - 2 DDR5 sodimm slots max 128Gb - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |} ====Misc==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Impart impact Media Group IQ Box mini Digital Signage with MB896 mini itx | <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->GMA 915 gme | <!--Audio--> via audio | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - 1 ddr2 slot - pentium m 1.73GHz - |- | <!--Name-->[https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_mini/specs/mac_mini_cd_1.83-specs.html Apple A1176 Intel MacMini1,1] | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{unk|gpt/efi }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|gma950 2d and 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ICH7 [https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/186749 Sigmatel Stac 9221] [https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/msm/+/android-wear-5.1.1_r0.6/sound/pci/hda/patch_sigmatel.c codec][https://alsa-devel.alsa-project.narkive.com/Yt20W6cE/sigmatel-stac9221-mux-amp-out-0x02-microphone-not-working mic]}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2006 32bit possible 1.83 GHz Intel “Core Duo” (T2400) - swap pci-e wifi for atheros 5k AR5007EG - maybe hack with a 2,1 firmware - max 4GB Ram ddr2 sodimms - external apple psu - dvd boot only with c key - |- | <!--Name-->[https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_mini/specs/mac-mini-core-2-duo-1.83-specs.html Apple A1176 Intel Mac Mini2,1] | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{unk|gpt/efi }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|gma950 2d and 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ICH7 Sigmatel Stac 9221 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} | <!--Test Distro-->Aros One 2.0/ Icaros (latest beta) | <!--Comments-->2007 64bit - swap pci-e wifi for atheros 5k AR5007EG - hacked with a 2,1 firmware and replaced the cpu for T7600 2.33 Ghz C2D and max 4GB Ram ddr2 sodimms - external apple psu - dvd boot only via c key |- | <!--Name-->Apple iMac 5,1 "Core 2 Duo" 1.83GHz 17" T5600 MA710LL || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 with 64Mb || <!--Audio-->HDAudio idt codec || <!--USB-->3 USB2 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit - 2 ddr2 667MHz sodimm slots - 17.0" TFT widescreen 1440x900 - polycarbonate |- | <!--Name-->Apple iMac 6,1 "Core 2 Duo" 2.16 2.33 24" only T7400 T7600 aka MA456LL/A A1200 (EMC 2111) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia 7300GT with 128 MB of GDDR3 SDRAM PCI Express or GeForce 7600GT with 256Mb mini dvi, vga || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->3 USB2 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit - 2 ddr2 667MHz sodimm slots - 24.0" TFT widescreen 1920 x 1200 - polycarbonate plastic case iMacs of this generation are the most difficult iMacs to service due to their front bezel design |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA2 | <!--IDE-->flash "DiskOnModule" | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->S3 Inc ProSavage PM133 (rev 02) vga | <!--Audio-->VIA VT82C686 AC97 Audio | <!--USB-->USB | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8139 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - VIA Ezra 800MHz - 2 PC100 sodimm slots - riser board carries an ISA slot and a PCI slot - external 12V power supply.with 4 pins - |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA5 Capio One | <!--IDE-->44pin DiskOnModule | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->SiS550 vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with SiS7019 codec | <!--USB-->USB1.1 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8139 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - internal power supply with mains lead has a "clover leaf" style - 2 144-pin PC100 or PC133 SODIMM might have 24MB of RAM soldered - |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA10 *E140 model BL-XX-XX (800MHz CPU) later *E100 model BK-XX-XX (1GHz CPU) | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA VT8623 (Apollo CLE266) vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with | <!--USB-->4 USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102/VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 74) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2004/5 32bit - 12v 5.5mm/2.1mm - 2 184-pin DDR DIMM - |- | <!--Name-->VXL Itona thin client *TC3200, *TC3x41 (P3VB-VXL) TC3541 TC3641 TC3841, *TC3xx1 (6VLE-VXL0) TC3931, *TC43xx (Gigabyte C7V7VX) TC4321 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA vga | <!--Audio-->AC'97 Audio with VIA VT | <!--USB-->VIA USB | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8100B | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2005 2006 32bit VIA Samuel 2, VIA C3 Nehamiah CPU, 1 DIMM slot, internal psu, |- | <!--Name-->Neoware Capio C50, model CA15 Thin Clients] *Login Administrator Password Administrator *Login User Password User | <!--IDE-->1 flash DiskOnModule | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA VT8623 (Apollo CLE266) vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with via codec | <!--USB-->USB | <!--Ethernet-->VIA | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2006 32bit VIA Eden (Samuel II core) CPU - 1 ddr sodimm slot max 512mb - slot - internal psu clover leaf - |- | <!--Name-->[http://etoy.spritesmind.net/neowareca21.html Neoware CA21 Thin Clients] Igel 3210 (and maybe the Clientron G270) *Login Administrator Password Administrator *Login User Password User | <!--IDE-->1 flash DiskOnModule | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA CN700 vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with via codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit VIA C3 Nehemiah instead of Ezra-T - made 2 version of the CA 21, one with an Award bios and one with a Phoenix bios - 1 ddr2 sodimm slot max 1gb - VT6656 wireless - slot - internal psu iec - |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA22 (e140), part number DD-L2-GE with BCOM WinNET P680 (V4) as the Igel 4210LX (Igel 5/4) | <!--IDE-->1 VIA VT82C586A/B VT82C686/A/B VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA CN700 P4M800 Pro CE VN800 Graphics [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01) vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with codec | <!--USB-->USB2 VIA VT8237R Plus | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102/VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - VIA Esther to later C7 1GHz - 1 ddr2 sodimm slots max 512mb - +12V DC/4.16A/50W 5.5mm/2.1mm coaxial - |- | <!--Name-->10Zig RBT402, Clientron U700, | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|44 pin header very little room}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A|}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Partial|VESA dvi}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|VIA }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - very small cases with very limited expansion - 1 sodimm 2GB max - 12v 3a psu - Password Fireport |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Dell Optiplex FX170 D05U thin client, 10Zig 56xx range 5602, 5616v, 5617v, 5672v, Clientron U800, Devon IT TC5, | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|44 pin header very little room}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A|}} | <!--Gfx-->{{partial|GMA 950 dvi}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit - very small cases with very limited expansion - 1 ddr2 sodimm 2GB max - 12v 3a psu - Password Fireport - ps2 keyboard socket - |- | <!--Name-->10Zig RBT-616V or Chip PC Technologies EX-PC (model number XPD4741) | <!--IDE-->{{unk|44 pin header very little room}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A|}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 950}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|HD Audio with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|rtl8169}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit N270 on NM10 with ICH7 - very small cases with very limited expansion - 1 sodimm 2GB max - 12v 4a psu - Password Fireport |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Brix GS-A21S-RH (rev. 1.0) SFF | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|X3100}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC883-GR codec}} | <!--USB-->Intel USB | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82566DC}} | <!--Test Distro-->ICAROS 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit Intel GME965 chipset with Intel ICH8M - 2 DDR2 Dimm slots - GA-6KIEH2-RH Rev.1.x mini ITX Case 213mm(D) x 64mm(W) x 234mm(H) - custom psu - |- | <!--Name-->VXL Itona MD+24 MD27 MD54 MD64 MD76 thin client | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->VIA Chrome 9 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA VT | <!--USB-->VIA | <!--Ethernet-->VIA | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit VIA X2 U4200 - 12v-19v barrel psu - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Revo 100 RL100 AMD Athlon II X2 K325 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® ION™ 9300m || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC662 codec || <!--USB-->USB2 1 front 2 back || <!--Ethernet-->NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2010 64bit but no AVX - 4Gb DDR3 sodimm - 500 GB - 19v 3.42a 65W - dvd but later BD drive - |- | <!--Name-->Asrock ION 330 330Pro HT-BD, Foxconn NT-330i, Zotac ION F (IONITX mini itx), | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ION geforce 9400}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Nvidia USB}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Nvidia }} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit slow atom cpu - 2.5L 8" by 8" plastic case - 2 ddr2 sodimm max 4G - external 19v 65W 3.42A Plug 5.5mm X 2.5mm - little whiny fan - |- | <!--Name-->Zotac ZBOXHD-ND01 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION1 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->NVidia | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Zotac ZBOX HD-ID11 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with ALC888 codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111D | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 |- | <!--Name-->ZOTAC ZBOX Blu-ray 3D ID36 Plus | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->sata | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->2 USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->GbE | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Shuttle XS35GT || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ION || <!--Audio-->HD audio IDT92HD81 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|JMC261}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - Atom™ D510 NM10 - DDR2 |- | <!--Name-->Shuttle XS35GT V2 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ION2 || <!--Audio-->HD audio IDT92HD81 || <!--USB-->Intel || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|JMC251}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit Atom™ D525 NM10 chipset - DDR3 |- | <!--Name-->Sapphire Edge-HD || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ION2 GT218 with vga and hdmi || <!--Audio-->HDAudio realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - Atom™ D510 NM10 - DDR2 65 W AC, DC 19V~3.42A, 19.3L x 14.8w x 2.2H cm (1l), weight 530g, |- | <!--Name-->Sapphire Edge-HD2 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|nouveau ION2 GT218 with vga and hdmi 2d and 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|Intel USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit Atom™ D525 NM10 chipset - DDR3 |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.jetwaycomputer.com/JBC600C99352W.html Jetway JBC600C99352W] | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio-->{{No|C-Media CM108AH}} | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111DL | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit D525 - DDR3 - 12v psu |- | <!--Name-->Foxconn nT-A3550 A3500 AMD A45 Chipset DDR3 Nettop Barebones - White | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 slot | <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon HD6310 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 USB2 back and 2 USB3 front | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD Dual-core E350 1.6GHz CPU - 1 ddr3 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Asus EeeBox PC EB1021 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD6320M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE1 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit - AMD® Brazos E-350 SFF or E-450 with A50M - 2 ddr3l so-dimm - 40W ac - |- | <!--Name-->Xi3 Piston PC Athlon64 X2 3400e (X5A), AMD R-464L quad (X7A) Z3RO NUC | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->AMD mobility HD3650 to radeon HD 7660G | <!--Audio--> codec | <!--USB-->4 USB2 3 USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8161}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 - 2 sodimm 8GB max - 19v 3.3a round - Titan105 bios update - |- | <!--Name-->Sapphire Edge-HD3 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD6320M with vga and hdmi || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC662 codec || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE1 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD® Brazos E-450 with A45M - ddr3l so-dimm - 65W ac - Wireless is Realtek 8191SU WiFi (802.11n) or AzureWave (802.11bgn) - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Samsung Syncmaster Thin Client Display TC-W Series 24" LF24 TOWHBFM/EN TC220W LED LF22TOW HBDN/EN || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->8gb SSD || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe| VESA mode only Radeon HD 6290}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->2 USB 2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 thin Client C-50 C50 AMD® 1000 MHz and no wireless |- | <!--Name-->Advantech TPC-2140 thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 atom-like G-T56E 1.65Ghz up to SSE3, BGA413 soldered - |- | <!--Name-->CompuLab FIT-PC3 fitPC3 USFF PC AMD G-T56N || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->RADEON HD 6320 || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio ALC888 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 8111}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64 bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 12v 3a - 2x sodimm DDR3 max 4GB - wifi rtl8188ce |- | <!--Name-->10Zig 6872 thin client | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 atom-like G-T56N up to SSE3 BGA413 (FT1) soldered - DDR3l single channel - |- | <!--Name-->10ZiG 7800q thin client | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon 5E 3840 x 2160 @ 30Hz to 2560 x 1600 @ 60Hz 2 x Display Port | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->6 x USB2.0 2 x USB3.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD GX-424CC (Quad Core) 2.4GHz BGA769 (FT3b) SSE4 and AVX - 1 ddr3 sodimm - 12V 4A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm |- | <!--Name--> *Itona VXL MZE12 AMD a4-5000 thin client *VXL Itona LQ27 LQ+27 LQ44 LQ+44 LQ49 LQ+49 LQ50 LQ+50 LQ64 LQ+64 thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Ati 8330 vga hdmi dp | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 usb2 2 usb3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit quad BGA769 (FT3) soldered - 2 stacked sodimm ddr3 middle of mobo - 2 m.2 sata slots - 1 sata short cable half size space - limited 1ltr 8in case no fan - 19v hp style psu connector - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 5212 21.5" AIO Thin Client W11B | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Sata | <!--Gfx-->R3 out from DP or vga | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2015 64bit slow atom like dual core AMD G-T48E 1.4 GHz - dell type round ac needed 90W 19.5V 4.62A - 21 inch 1080p screen - |- | <!--Name-->LG 24CK560N-3A 24' All-in-One Thin Client Monitor, 27CN650N-6N 27CN650W-AC 27', 34CN650W-AC 34', | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2018 64bit AMD Prairie Falcon GX-212JJ |- | <!--Name-->CompuLab fit-PC4 fitPC4 4x 2Ghz AMD || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64 - 2x DDR4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->IGEL Hedgehog M340C UD3 thin client *2016 V1.0 AMD GX-412HC 1.2GHz-1.6GHz Radeon R3E, normal bios DEL for Bios or F12 boot selector *2018 AMD GX-424CC 2.4GHz, Radeon R5E, UEFI hit DEL and choose boot or SCU icon | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->SATA half slim version '''limited space''' with msata slot on earlier 2016 models | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Radeon R3E later R5E sea islands vulkan 1.2 with dvi dp output}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec ?? (412) and Realtek ALC662-VD0-GR (424), both case speaker}} | <!--USB-->amd usb3 boot usb2 with bios "disable usb" entry | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169 8111 (412) and (424)}} | <!--Test Distro-->Aros One x86 USB 1.5, 1.8 and 2.2 | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 20cm/8" high case - 1 DDR3L sodimm slot max 8Gb 1600MHz - external '''12V 3A''' supply with 5.5mm/2.1mm coaxial - IDE like interface under base stand is for legacy addon ports RS232 parallel etc - capacitive touch power on - case opening 3 stages, remove stand and narrow black plastic strip from the back, top cover slides off to the back and lifts off - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->IGEL UD3 M350C (UEFI issues) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->None but 8gb emmc | <!--Gfx-->Vega 3 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek ALC897 or ALC888S codec | <!--USB-->USB 3.2 and 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - AMD Ryzen™ R R1505G Dual-Core 10W TDP - 2 DDR4 sodimms slots max 16Gb - 12V 4A psu - 2x DisplayPort 1.2 no dvi or hdmi - Intel® 9260 or SparkLAN WNFT-238AX wifi - 1x rear serial Prolific PL2303 chipset - locked down components and very limited expansion options - |- | <!--Name-->IGEL UD7 H860C AMD Ryzen V1605B Thin Client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 AMD Ryzen™ Embedded V1605B 2 – 3.6 GHz (Quad-Core) - 12v 5A psu - up to 16GB RAM DDR4 - locked down components and very limited expansion options - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Brix Barebone Mini PC BSRE-1605 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 M.2 | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC269 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->2 GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit AMD Ryzen V1605B - 2 DDR4 sodimm slots |- | <!--Name-->EliteGroup LIFA Q3 Plus | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit AMD Ryzen Embedded V1000, V1605B - |- | <!--Name-->MINISFORUM Deskmini UM250 Mini PC | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit AMD Ryzen V1605B - |- | <!--Name-->Shuttle DA320 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->R3 R5 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC662 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->dual realtek 1GbE 8111H | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Opinion-->2017 64bit AMD 2200G 2400G - Robust metal 1.3-liter case - A320 chipset DDR4 - 19V 6.32A DC PSU - |- | <!--Name-->T-Bao MN25 Mini PC 2500U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Unk|Intel NVMe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA Radeon Vega 8}} | <!--Audio-->{{Unk| }} | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek PCIe 1GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Minis Forum M200 Silver Athlon M300 3300U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1 and 2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek PCIe 2.5G}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Minis Forum DeskMini UM300 3300U, UM350 DMAF5 3550H, UM370 and UM700 with 3750H | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1 and 2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek PCIe 2.5G}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit |- | <!--Name-->MinisForum X300 with AMD 3400G | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1 and 2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek PCIe 2.5G}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Beelink SER3 GTR4 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega 3 or 10 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RJ45 1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit 3200u or 3750h |- | <!--Name-->Beelink SER4 GTR5 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->cant boot from installed SSDs unless its an M.2 | <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->1 or 2 Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 4700U or 5900HX |- | <!--Name-->MSI PRO DP20Z 5M Mini PC - AMD Ryzen 5 5300G | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 2.5G LAN RTL8125}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->R3 3200G Vega 8 - R5 3400G Vega 11 - Ryzen 5 5600G Vega 7 - Athlon 3000G |- | <!--Name-->Minisforum UM450 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 2.5G LAN RTL8125}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - Ryzen 4500U - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Brix GB-BRR7-4800 (rev. 1.0) GB-BRR7-4700 (rev. 1.0) GB-BRR5-4500 (rev. 1.0) GB-BRR3-4300 (rev. 1.0) | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 2.5G LAN RTL8125 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS PN50 mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 4700U | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|3.1 gen1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|realtek 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS PN51-S1 mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 5700U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Vega thru dp or hdmi | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|3.1 gen1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|realtek 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 19v or 19.5v 90w psu round barrel - 32gb ddr4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Minis Forum Bessstar Tech EliteMini B550 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 x 2.5in and 2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{no|4 usb3.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|realtek 8125 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit AMD 4700G 5700G desktop cpu - 19v 120w round barrel - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock A300 and later X300 Mini itx with Desktop AM4 socket | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - choose your own AMD APU GE 35w based - DDR4 - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock 4x4 BOX-5800U Zen 3-based AMD Ryzen 7 5800U 15W - | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 slot gen 3 and sata | <!--Gfx-->vega | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|1 GbE and 1 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - WiFi 6E - |- | <!--Name-->Topton S500+ Gaming Mini PC - Morefine S500+ 5900HX Mini PC - Minisforum UM590 Ryzen AMD Zen3 Ryzen 9 5900HX 7 5800H 45W - | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme 1 sata | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 thru HDMI 2.0, DP 1.4, and USB type-C | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{no|usb3.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|1 realtek rtl 8111h and 1 8125 2.5GbE bg-cg}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 2 sodimm ddr4 3200MHz - |- | <!--Name-->Chuwi RzBox later Ubox | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 later to 660m vga, dp, hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->{{No|usb-c usb2}} | <!--Ethernet-->dual gigabit | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 2025 64bit amd 5800h 4800h 6600H - 90w psu - |- | <!--Name-->Beelink Mini PC SER5, Trigkey AZW S5, Asus PN52, ZHI BEN MX-JB560, | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->PCIe3 M.2 2280 nvme | <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega 6 with 1 or 2 hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->{{No|USB3.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 1GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 5500U 5560u 5600U to PRO 5600H 5800H - 19v 3.42W 65W psu - |- | <!--Name-->NIPOGI Kamrui ACEMAGICIAN AM06PRO Dual LAN Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, 5 5500U or 5600U/5625U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->M.2 and 2.5in sata | <!--Gfx-->Vega 7 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->2 GbE ports | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - plastic build - 90w usb-c power - loud at 25W setting - |- | <!--Name-->Topton FU02 Fanless Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 4700U 5600U 5800U 8 Core 16 Threads | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe and 2.5in sata | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->4 3.0 with 2 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->2 x 1G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64 - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - fanless with copper cube from cpu to metal sheet which gets warm |- | <!--Name-->Xuu XR1 Lite (5300u 4c 8t) PRO 5400U MAX 5600U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 NVMe 2242 slot | <!--Gfx-->Vega 6 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->2 3.0 | <!--Ethernet-->1G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64 quiet fan - very small case no expansions - |- | <!--Name-->MINISFORUM UM690 Venus Series | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->pcie4 nvme 2280 and 1 sata3 2.5in | <!--Gfx-->680m RNDA2 12CU with 2 hdmi | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|1 USB4 and 2 USB3.2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|2.5G LAN}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 6900hx 8C16T - 2 ddr5 sodimmm - 19v ???W - |- | <!--Name-->Beelink Mini PC GTR6 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->PCIe4 | <!--Gfx-->AMD 680M RDNA2 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->USB3.2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 2.5GbE or intel i225}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit Ryzen 9 6900HX Zen3+ and a 2gb Radeon 680m 12CU ddr5 sodimm - 19v 120w psu - |- | <!--Name-->Asus PN53, Geekom AS 6, | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->pcie gen4 nvme and ata 2.5in | <!--Gfx-->680m RNDA2 12CU with 2 hdmi and 1 dp | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|2 usb-c, 2 USB2.1 and 3 USB3.2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|1G LAN}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 6900hx 8C 16T - 2 slots ddr5 sodimmm (64Gb max) - 19v 120W - 4 retained base screws beware ribbon cable - |- | <!--Name-->Micro Computer (HK) Tech Ltd MinisForum UM773 Lite later UM750L slim, GMKtec K2 Mini PC | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe PCIe4.0 | <!--Gfx-->RDNA | <!--Audio-->HD Audio | <!--USB-->USB4 | <!--Ethernet-->2.5GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2023 2025 64bit - AMD Zen 3+ (8c 16t) Ryzen 7 7735HS, 7840HS and AMD Ryzen 9 7845HX AMD Ryzen™5 7545U (6c12t) - 19v up to 120w ac adapter - ddr5 sodimm 4800Mhz - |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.asrockind.com/en-gb/4x4 ASrock 4x4 SBC] | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->sata or nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega or 680M | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 or USB4 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 1GbE or intel 2.5GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Beelink Mini PC GTR7 SER7 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->PCIe4 nvme 2280 up to 2Tb | <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M RDNA3 GPU output on hdmi and dp | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3.2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|1 or 2 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2023 64bit AMD Phoenix APUs Zen 4 CPU Ryzen 7 7840HS or 9 7940HS (8c 16t) - 19v 5.26A 120w psu - del dios setup f7 choose boot - 2 thunderbolt-type usb-c on back - up to 64gb via 2 ddr5 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->MINISFORUM BD770i Ryzen 7 7745HX (8c16t) or BD795i SE 790i 9 7945HX (16c32t) or F1FXM_MB_V1.1 795M LGA1700 mATX | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 610m over usb-c, dp or hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 with 2 rear USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 2.5G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Opinion-->2024 mini-ITX M/B is the first MoDT (Mobile on Desktop) with soldered AMD CPU - 2 dual PCIe4.0 M.2 slots - 2 ddr5 sodimm slots max 5200Mhz - 8pin cpu power - battery not easily replaceable underneath - |- | <!--Name-->mINISORUM ms-a1 MS-a2 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->AMD 610M | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->dual 2.5GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2024 64bit - 19v ?A round barrel jack - 2 ddr5 so-dimm slots - choose from 5700G to 8700G apu - |- | <!--Name-->NextSBC 7840HS | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Nvme | <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M 12CU | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec | <!--USB-->USB4 and USB 3.2 | <!--Ethernet-->2 GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - 32Gb soldered - |- | <!--Name-->Minisforum UM870 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVme || <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M || <!--Audio-->HDaudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->2.5GbE || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Server Systems=== [[#top|...to the top]] ====IBM==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="15%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->xSeries 206m | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ATI RN50b (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{n/a}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0 (UHCI/EHCI)}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2014-09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Motherboard=== [[#top|...to the top]] * Late 2002, USB2.0 added and slightly better AROS sound support (AC97) appeared * 2002-2005 and still, to a limited extent, ongoing [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague bad capacitors] * Late 2003, ATX PSUs moved from 5V to 12v rails (extra 4pin on motherboard for CPU) * Late 2005, PCI Express replaced AGP and HDAudio replaced AC97 * Late 2007, ATX PSUs added extra 12V PCI-E connectors and 4+4pin for CPUs * Late 2010, USB3.0 appears on motherboards or needing a PCI-E motherboard slot * Late 2014 Hardware USB2 removed from USB3 chipsets ====AMD==== [[#top|...to the top]] =====Socket 7 (1997/1999)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->1997 VT82C586B (QFP-208) is the first from VIA with DDMA |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2000 VT82C686 has close to excellent DDMA support |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->SiS 5581/5582 SiS 5591/5595 SiS 530 /5595 SiS 600/5595 SiS 620/5595 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket A 462 (2001/4)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/motherboards/article.php/2217921/ABIT-NF7-S-nForce2-Motherboard-Review.htm Abit NF7-S] | <!--Chipset-->nForce 2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->SIL 3112A | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650 AC97 (Nvidia APU)}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL 8201LB | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Realtek RTL8801B |- | <!--Name-->ASRock K7NF2 | <!--Chipset-->nforce2 ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|AGP 8x}} | <!--Audio-->CMedia CMI 9761A AC'97 | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8201 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock K7S8X | <!--Chipset-->SIS 746FX | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|AGP 8x}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC'97 cmedia}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB2.0 works but does not boot}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|SiS900}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock K7S41GX | <!--Chipset-->SIS 741GX + DDR 333 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|onboard sis does not work with vga or vesa but AGP 8x works}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 SIS 7012}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB2.0 works but does not boot}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|SiS 900}} | <!--Opinion-->works ok |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.asus.com ASUS A7N8X] | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->Silicon Image Sil 3112A | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ac97 ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|ehci USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8201BL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->first total support for AROS in 2004/5 - damocles and M Schulz |- | <!--Name-->Biostar M7NCD | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650 AC97}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8201BL}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Chaintech 7NJS Ultra Zenith | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Promise PDC 20376 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|CMI8738}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->DFI Lanparty NF2 Ultra | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|via ac97 VT1616}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8139C | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ECS N2U400-A | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|Cmedia 9379A AC97}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|usb2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|VIA VT6103L}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA7N400L | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP 8x slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 ALC650}} | <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8100C | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.gigabyte.lv/products/page/mb/ga-8siml Gigabyte 8SIML] | <!--Chipset-->SIS 650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC'97}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|working}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Realtek RTL8100L LAN}} | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Matsonic [http://www.elhvb.com/mobokive/archive/matsonic/manual/index.html Manuals] MS83708E | <!--Chipset-->SIS730 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|SiS 5513}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|sis 305 no support use VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|sis7018}} | <!--USB-->{{no|SiS 7001 USB 1.1 only}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|SIS900}} | <!--Opinion-->little support |- | <!--Name-->[http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph07585&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&dest_page=softwareCategory&os=228&tool=softwareCategory&query=Pavilion%20742n&product=89232 MSI MS-6367 HP 722n 742n (Mambo) (2001/2)] | <!--Chipset-->Nvidia nforce 220D (2001/2) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->GeForce2 AGP works 2D nouveau only | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|AC97 ADI 1885 no volume control on Units 0-3}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 USB1.1 ports AMD based - front 2 ports iffy}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|nForce}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested 20th Aug 2012 NB |- | <!--Name-->MSI K7N2 [http://us.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&prod_no=546/ Delta ILSR] Delta-L | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 (2002/3) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|Primary & Secondary ports}} IDE Tertiary port (RAID) | <!--SATA-->2 ports (RAID) | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|when fitted with an agp video card}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ac97 ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8201BL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->runs AROS well. Tested with Icaros 1.2.3 |- | <!--Name-->MSI K7N2 Delta2-LSR Platinum | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 (2002/3) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|Primary & Secondary ports}} IDE Tertiary port (RAID) | <!--SATA-->2 ports (RAID) | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|when fitted with an agp video card}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|ac97 ALC655}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8201BL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->runs AROS well. Tested with Icaros 1.2.3 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/motherboards/article.php/2204281/Soltek-SL-75MRN-L-nForce2-Motherboard-Review.htm Soltek 75FRN-L] | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|2 ports}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->AGP slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 usb2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek RTL8201BL}} | <!--Opinion-->good support |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.3dvelocity.com/reviews/mach4nf2ultra/mach4.htm XFX Pine Mach4 nForce2 Ultra 400] | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|3 ports}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|2 ports VIA VT6240}} | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP 8x slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8201BL}} | <!--Opinion-->some support |- | <!--Name-->ASUS A7V266 | <!--Chipset-->via KT266A + 8233 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{no|issues}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot | <!--Audio-->AC97 with AD1980 codec | <!--USB-->via 8233 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6103 | <!--Opinion-->2002 issues with booting |- | <!--Name-->Asus A7V8X-X | <!--Chipset-->VIA KT400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{unk| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|agp}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 with ADI AD1980 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|VIA 8235}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|Realtek 10/100}} | <!--Opinion-->2003 not booting for Socket A for AMD Barton/Thoroughbred/Athlon XP/Athlon/Duron 2.25+ GHz CPU - 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets Max. 3 GB - |- |} =====Socket 754 (2004/5)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Abit NF8-V2 | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 250GB (2004/5) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|2 ports}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|2 ports}} | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot x8 | <!--Audio-->ALC658 ac97 | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8201C}} | <!--Opinion-->a little support but no Firewire VIA VT6306 |- | <!--Name-->Biostar CK8 K8HNA Pro | <!--Chipset-->nforce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->VT6420 thru ide legacy only | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 ALC655}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8110S | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VT6307 no |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/motherboards/Chaintech_ZNF3-150_3.html Chaintech ZNF3-150 Zenith] | <!--Chipset-->nforce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|Sli3114 SATA via IDE emul}} | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot | <!--Audio-->{{no|VIA Envy24PT (VT1720) + VT1616}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom GbE 5788}} | <!--Opinion-->very little support needs PCI cards but no Firewire VIA VT6306 |- | <!--Name-->DFI Lanparty UT nF3 250GB | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 250gb | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|2 ports nForce3 and 2 Marvell SATA PHY}} | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 ALC850}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->CK8S - Winfast NF3 250K8AA works and Marvell 88E1111 does not work | <!--Opinion-->2005 some support but no Firewire VIA VT6307 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-K8N | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA nForce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC658 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8100C | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TI43AB23 no |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte K8NNXP | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Sata sil3512 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC658 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTl8110S | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TI STB82AA2 no |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-K8NSNXP | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 250GB | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->SiI 3512 CT128 Sata Sil3515 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC850 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvel 88E8001}} | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->MSI K8N Neo-FIS2R | <!--Chipset-->nVIDIA NF3-250Gb | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Realtek 7.1 AC'97 ALC850 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E1111}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->[http://techreport.com/articles.x/5748/1 Shuttle AN50R] | <!--Chipset-->nF3-150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Sil 3112 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC650 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia nF3 (10/100) Intel 82540EM Gigabit | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VT6307 no |- | <!--Name--> Foxconn WinFast K8S755A | <!--Chipset-->SiS755 + SiS964 (DDR333) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> {{yes|AC97}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|RTL8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket 939 (2005)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus A8N-LA GeForce 6150 LE | <!--Chipset-->Geforce 6150 (MCP51) + nForce 430 (PC-3200) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|two ATA 133}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|four 3.0GB/s SATAII ports}} | <!--Gfx-->built in or PCI-E x16 | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC883 HD Audio | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL 8201CL | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus A8N-SLI Premium | <!--Chipset-->NVidia | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|PCIe slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|nForce LAN but not Marvell}} | <!--Opinion-->Works well |- | <!--Name-->DFI nF4 Ultra-D LanParty - Diamond Flower International sold to BenQ group 2010 | <!--Chipset-->nF4 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->4 ports SATA 2 | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe x16 slots | <!--Audio-->AC97 with ALC850 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Dual Gigabit Ethernet, PCIe by Vitesse VSC8201 PHY nee Cicada 8201, PCI by Marvel 88E8001 | <!--Opinion-->2006 64bit - Four 184-pin DDR Dual-Channel Slots - 1 pci on Ultra, 2 pci on sli, |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus A8V E SE | <!--Chipset-->VIA K8T890 +VT8237R CHIPSET ATX AMD Motherboard with Athlon 64 X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 | <!--ACPI-->{{N/A}} | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{N/A}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe}} AC97 driver using Realtek ALC850 codec | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} USB 2.0 only | <!--Ethernet-->{{No}} Marvell 88E8053 | <!--Opinion-->Good base but needs additional PCI cards added for better support |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS A8V Deluxe (2004) | <!--Chipset-->VIA K8T800 Pro (DDR400) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->Promise 20378 2 ports | <!--SATA-->2 SATA2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|VIA VT8233A 8235 8237 AC97}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit}} | <!--Opinion-->needs extra PCI cards |- |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->AsRock 939Dual-SATA2 | <!--Chipset-->Ali Uli M1695 PCIe with M1567 AGP | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->1 Sata with JMicron JMB360 chip | <!--Gfx-->1 pci-e and 1 agp | <!--Audio-->AC97 with ALC850 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8201CL PHY ULi 10/100 | <!--Opinion-->64bit pci-e and agp combo on board - 4 ddr slots - |} =====Socket AM2 (2006/8) and AM2+ (2007-2010) ===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 (rev. 2.x) | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA® GeForce 6100 / nForce 430 chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2d for vga}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio Realtek ALC662 Audio Codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M2N61-AR mini itx | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA nForce 430 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 | <!--SATA-->2 | <!--Gfx-->GeForce 6150SE via vga or 1 pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->Nvidia | <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia | <!--Opinion-->2006 32bit - 1 pci - 2 ddr2 dimm slots non-eec - |- | <!--Name-->asus m2n68-am se2 | <!--Chipset-->nvidia 630a 630/a MCP68SE | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 ports | <!--SATA-->2 ports MCP61 chipset is SATA over IDE, not SATA over AHCI and reports subsystem as 0x1 IDE, not 0x6 SATA | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|nvidia 7025 2d and 3d thru vga}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|hd audio with realtek alc662 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|nForce chipset RTL 8201CP}} | <!--Opinion-->2007 64bit Phenom IIX2, Athlon 64 LE X2, Sempron, and Phenom FX processors - ddr2 667Mhz ram max 4Gb - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0) | <!--Chipset-->AMD 770 with SB700 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888 codec }} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 8111C later 8111D}} | <!--Opinion-->Good support for AM2+ / AM2 with 4 ddr2 ram - 4 x PCI Express x1, 2 x PCI slots - firewire T.I. TSB43AB23 chip no support - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe | <!--Chipset-->AMD 790FX RD790 + SB600 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{No|Marvell 88SE6121 SATA II}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 1.1 support | <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio ADI® AD1988}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8056}} | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASROCK N68-S N68C-S | <!--Chipset-->AMD based nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|slimline DVD drive works}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GF 7025 use vesa}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio for VIA 1708S VT1705}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|echi usb 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8201EL / 8201CL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->2008 unbuffered 1066Mhz ddr2 ram - N68C-S may need noacpi added to grub boot line to disable pci temporarily to run as it cannot get to [PCI] Everything OK - |- | <!--Name-->Asus M2N68-AM Plus | <!--Chipset-->Athlon 64, Sempron, Athlon 64 X2, Athlon 64 FX with nvidia 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->no vga, pci-e slot only | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with ALC662 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8211CL Gigabit LAN}} | <!--Opinion-->adding "noacpi noapic noioapic" to the GRUB options - Dual channel DDR2 1066, 800, 667 MHz - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M68M-S2 (1.0) S2P (2.3) S2L GA-M68SM-S2 (1.x) | <!--Chipset-->nForce 630a chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025, vga (s2 and s2p), dvi (s2l) | <!--Audio-->ALC883 (S2), ALC888B (S2P), ALC662 (S2L), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8201CL (S2), 8211CL (S2P), 8211BL (S2L), | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit possible with AMD AM2+ CPU on AM2 motherboard, the system bus speed will downgrade from HT3.0(5200MHz) to HT1.0(2000 MT/s) spec |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M2N68-VM | <!--Chipset-->nForce 630a (MCP68PVNT) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Nvidia GeForce ® 7050PV hdmi, dvi and vga | <!--Audio-->HD audio VIA 1708B codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8211C | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit - ddr2 800Mhz |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket AM3 White socket (2010/11)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-MA74GM-S2 GA-MA74GM-S2H | <!--Chipset-->740g with sb710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|bios IDE}} | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 2100 and pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->ALC888 (r1.x),ALC888b (r2.0), ALC888B (rev4.x) | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111C later 8111D | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - 2 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets max 8 GB - Micro ATX Form Factor 24.4cm x 23.4cm - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.vesalia.de/e_aresone2011.htm Aresone 2011] | <!--Chipset-->760g | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|no Radeon HD3000 driver yet<br>vesa driver works<br>and add PCIe card}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes}} | <!--Opinion-->Good support - 4 DDR3 memory sockets - |- | <!--Name-->Foxconn A76ML-K 3.0 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760g rev3.0 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|1 }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|4 in IDE mode }} | <!--Gfx-->HD3000 with pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC662-GR codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit - 2 ddr3 slots - 2 pci slots - |- | <!--Name-->GA-MA770T-UD3P (rev. 1.0 to 1.4) | <!--Chipset-->amd 770 with sb710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|4 sata}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio with Realtek ALC888 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8168 rtl8111c/d}} | <!--Opinion-->2011 64 - 4 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 2.0 2.1) | <!--Chipset-->AMD 770 with SB700 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888 codec }} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 8111C later 8111D}} | <!--Opinion-->Good support for AM3 with 4 ddr2 ram - 4 x PCI Express x1, 2 x PCI slots - firewire T.I. TSB43AB23 chip no support - |- | <!--Name-->Asus M4A785TD-M PRO | <!--Chipset-->785G and SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|ide legacy}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ATI Radeon HD 4200 - use vesa}} or pci-e 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Opinion-->Good support with 1366 ddr3 ram - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M4A88T-I Deluxe ITX | <!--Chipset-->AMD 880G with AMD SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Three SATA 3Gbps | <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 4350 GPU with HDMI and DVI or One 16x PCI-Express 2.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC889 | <!--USB-->6 x USB 2, 2 x USB 3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek RTL8112L}} | <!--Opinion-->2014 64bit - 2 SODIMM DDR3 slots max 8GB |- | <!--Name-->Asus M4A88T-M Version E5907 E5826 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 880G SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 4250 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA VT 1708S codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek rtl8169 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->GigaByte 890GPA-UD3H | <!--Chipset-->AMD 890GX together with SB850 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Yes | <!--Gfx-->use pci-e nvidia | <!--Audio-->Maybe - ALC892 rev. 1.0, ALC892 rev 2.1, ALC889 rev. 3.1 | <!--USB-->Yes | <!--Ethernet-->Yes | <!--Opinion-->works well overall |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD7 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 890FX with SB850 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE }} | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC889 (rev 2.x) | <!--USB-->{{Yes|AMD USB2 but limited with NEC D720200F1 USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->2 x Realtek 8111D | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - XL-ATX Form Factor 32.5cm x 24.4cm - 4 ddr3 slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 890GXM-G65 | <!--Chipset-->890GX + SB750 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|legacy}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ATI 4290 built-in (vesa)}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC889 DD GR}} HD Audio crackles | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock N68-VS3 FX | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 Sata2 | <!--Gfx-->Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA® VT1705 Codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek PHY RTL8201EL | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - 2 x DDR3 DIMM slots - |- | <!--Name-->MSI GF615M-P35 MS-7597 | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA® nForce 430 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->GeForce 6150SE | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with Realtek® ALC888S}} | <!--USB-->{{No|freezes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 8211CL}} | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M68MT-S2 | <!--Chipset--> nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 vga | <!--Audio-->ALC888B (1.3), ACL887 (3.1), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8211CL (all) | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit possible, AMD AM3 CPU on this motherboard, the system bus speed will downgrade from HT3.0 (5200MT/s) to HT1.0 (2000 MT/s) spec |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M68MT-S2P | <!--Chipset--> nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 vga | <!--Audio-->ALC888B (1.x 2.x), ALC889 (3.0), ALC888B/889 (3.1), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8211CL (all) | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M4N78 PRO | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA GeForce 8300 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 xUltraDMA 133/100 | <!--SATA-->6 xSATA 3 Gbit/s ports | <!--Gfx-->Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce® 8 series GPU with 1 PCIe 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA1708S 8 -Channel codec | <!--USB-->12 USB 2.0 ports (8 ports at mid-board, 4 ports at back panel) | <!--Ethernet-->NVIDIA Gigabit | <!--Opinion-->4 x DIMM, Max. 16 GB, DDR2 1200(O.C.)/1066*/800/667 ECC,Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory - ATX Form Factor 12 inch x 9.6 inch ( 30.5 cm x 24.4 cm ) - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket AM3+ Black socket (2012/15)===== *095W FX-6300 FD6300WMHKBOX (bulldozer SSE4.1 AVX) 970 mobos with FX-8320E 8core Black Editions FD832EWMHKBOX FX-8370E (Vishera/Piledriver) *125W FX-6310 (bulldozer) 970 mobos with FX-8320 FX-8350 FX-8370 (Vishera/Piledriver) *220W 990FX mobos with FX-9000 FX-9370 FX-9590 {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M5A78L-M LX3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760G with SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|bios IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->HD3000 with pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC887, V? ALC892 codecs | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros 8161/8171 add realtek 8111? pci-e card}} | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - uATX Form Factor 9.6 inch x 7.4 inch ( 24.4 cm x 18.8 cm ) - 2 x DIMM, Max. 16GB, DDR3 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760G and SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|6 SATA2 ports}} | <!--Gfx-->GT240 and a nv7900gs, both pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC889 (r3.1), ALC??? (rev. 4.0), ALC887 (r5.x)}} | <!--USB-->4 USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 8111E (r3.1), Atheros (rev4.0), Atheros (r5.x) }} | <!--Opinion-->2012 offers very poor control over its EFI vs. BIOS booting partition features |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 (r3.0), (r4.1 Blue board), (r5.0 dark board), (rev6 dark mobo) | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760G and SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|Bios IDE mode for SATA2 on early ones}} | <!--Gfx-->AMD HD3000, pci-e GT240 and a nv7900gs | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC??? (r3.0), ALC887 (r4.1), VIA VT2021 (r5.0), Realtek® ALC892 codec (rev6) }} | <!--USB-->{{yes|AMD USB2 but not VIA® VL805 USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE | <!--Opinion-->2013 64bit - Micro ATX Form Factor 24.4cm x 24.4cm - 4 x DDR3 DIMM sockets - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 760GM | <!--Chipset-->ATI 760G plus SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->HD3000 Use Vesa | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|P33 VT1705; P34, P21 and P23 (FX) MS7641 v3.0 ALC887, E51 ALC892}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Opinion-->P23 issues with audio ALC887 crackles thru earphones - |- | <!--Name-->Gigayte GA-MA770T-UD3P (rev. 3.1) | <!--Chipset-->amd 770 with sb710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with Realtek ALC888/892 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111d/e | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASRock 890FX Deluxe5 Extreme3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 890FX + AMD SB850 or SB950 (Extreme3) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{N/A}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC892}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8111E rtl8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M5A97 R2.0 EVO | <!--Chipset-->AMD 970 and SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Asmedia SATA Controller | <!--Gfx-->n/a | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC887 (LE), ALC887 (Regular), ALC892 (EVO) codec | <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 and 2 Asmedia USB3.0 Controller | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111F | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 970 with SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio--> ALC??? (rev. 1.0/1.1), ALC887 (rev1.2), VIA VT2021 codec (rev 1.3 1.4 and rev3.0) | <!--USB-->{{yes|AMD USB2 but not Etron EJ168 chip (USB3)}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE 8111E (all revisions), | <!--Opinion-->2015 64bit - ATX Form Factor 30.5cm x 22.4cm - 4 x 1.5V DDR3 DIMM sockets - |- | <!--Name-->MSI 970 Gaming | <!--Chipset-->970FX SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC1150 Codec | <!--USB-->6 usb2 with 2 USB3 VIA VL806 Chipset | <!--Ethernet-->Killer E2205 Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M5A99X EVO | <!--Chipset-->990X - RD980 with SB920 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->2 pci-e gen ? | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC892 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 realtek 8111e | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 990 with SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC889 (rev 1.x, 3.0, 3.1), | <!--USB-->{{yes|AMD USB2 not 2 x Etron EJ168 chips for USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->realtek rtl8169 8111e | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - ATX Form Factor; 30.5cm x 24.4cm - 4 ddr3 slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====AMD Fusion (2011/14)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | 1.2GHz single Bobcat Fusion C30 + Hudson M1 | ACPI | IDE | SATA | AMD 6250 | Audio | USB | Ethernet | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | Asus E35M1-M PRO uATX | 1.6GHz 18W AMD Fusion E-350 dual core + Hudson M1 | ACPI | {{N/A}} | SATA | AMD 6310 - no HD driver yet | ALC887 VD2 | USB | RTL8111E | 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - EFI bios [http://www.anandtech.com/show/4023/the-brazos-performance-preview-amd-e350-benchmarked] |- | Asus E35M1-I Deluxe miniITX | 1.6GHz dual AMD Fusion E350 + Hudson M1 + DDR3 | ACPI | {{N/A}} | SATA | AMD 6310 - no HD driver yet | ALC892 | USB | Realtek 8111E | 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - no support for Atheros AR5008 on a Mini PCI-E |- | ASRock E350M1 / USB3 (also version with USB3.0 added) | 1.6GHz dual AMD Fusion E350 + Hudson M1 | ACPI | {{N/A}} | SATA - 4 SATA3 | {{Maybe|AMD 6310 - use vesa with hdmi and dvi}} | {{Yes|Audio ALC892 playback but no HDMI output}} | USB - 4 USB2.0 and 2 USB3.0 | {{Yes|rtl8169 for Realtek 8111E 8411 ethernet chipset}} | 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-E350N-USB3 mini-ITX | <!--Chipset--> Hudson M1 FCH | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 SATA3 | <!--Gfx--> plus HDMI, DVI | <!--Audio-->ALC892 | <!--USB-->2 NEC USB3.0 with 4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-E350N Win8 V1.0 | <!--Chipset-->Hudson M1 FCH A45 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 SATA3 | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Use VESA - AMD 6310 plus HDMI, DVI}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC887 playback through headphones but not thru hdmi}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|4 USB2.0 needs more testing}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8111 8168B}} | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - works well but need to test with sata hard disk |- | <!--Name-->MSI E350IA-E45 | <!--Chipset-->e-350 + Hudson M1 + DDR3 | <!--ACPI-->no support | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 Sata3 ports | <!--Gfx-->AMD 6310 gpu | <!--Audio-->ALC HDA | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 and 2 USB3.0 through NEC 720200 chipset | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS E45M1-M PRO | <!--Chipset-->E450 APU with Hudson M1 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS E45M1-I Deluxe | <!--Chipset-->E-450 together | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket FM1 (2011/13)===== On board Graphic on CPU - HD6410D, HD6530D, HD6550D, {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS F1A55-M LE | <!--Chipset--> with AMD A55 FCH (Hudson D2) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->6 x SATA 3Gbit/s port(s), blue Support Raid 0, 1, 10, JBOD | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 2.0 slot or Integrated AMD Radeon™ HD 6000 in Llano APU | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC887 Audio CODEC | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 ports | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E rtl8169 | <!--Opinion-->2012 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - A-Series/E2- Series APUs up to 4 cores - 2 x DIMM, Max. 32GB, DDR3 2250(O.C.)/1866/1600/1333/1066 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory Dual Channel Memory Architecture - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket FM2 White Socket (2012/13)===== Onboard Gfx on CPU - HD6570, HD7480D, HD7540D, {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A75 A85X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket FM2 Plus Black socket (2013/15)===== Onboard Gfx on CPU - HD6570, HD7480D, HD7540D, {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A88X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket AM1 FS1b socket (2014/1x)===== 5350 4 core Jaguar cores 2GHz with Integrated AMD Radeon R Series Graphics in the APU Kabini [Radeon HD 8400] Later Beema APU with 2/4 core Puma (slightly updated Jaguar) cores, GCN graphics and a compute capable Radeon core, along with a brand new AMD security processor and FT3 BGA packaging (probably best avoided for long term survival). {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS AM1I-A | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio Realtek® ALC887-VD | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111GR 8168 | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit may support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->MSI AM1I | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111G | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI AM1M | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111G | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->BGA FT3 AM1x |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket AM4 FM3 Summit Ridge Zen Zen+ (2016/22)===== Jim Keller’s group designed x86 Zen CPU - new and covering the same AM4 platform/socket for desktop Zen will also shift from Bulldozer’s Clustered Multithreading (CMT) to Simultaneous Multithreading (SMT, aka Intel’s Hyperthreading). CMT is the basis for Bulldozer’s unusual combination of multiple integer cores sharing a single FPU within a module, so the move to SMT is a more “traditional” design for improving resource usage Trusted Platform Module, or fTPM, that Windows 11 requires. Ryzen processors using a firmware TPM are causing stutters, even when doing mundane tasks. To enable TPM 2.0 on your AMD system please follow the steps below. <pre> Power on system and press DEL or F2 to get into the BIOS. Navigate to Advanced\CPU Configuration. Enable AMD fTPM switch. Press F10 to save changes. </pre> {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero | <!--Chipset-->X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 (1x16 or 2x8) | <!--Audio-->SupremeFX audio features an S1220 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel I211 | <!--Opinion-->Ryzen 7 1800X 1700X |- | <!--Name-->Biostar X370gtn Itx Am4 | <!--Chipset-->AMD X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek Dragon LAN RTL8118AS | <!--Opinion--> 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-AX370 K7 | <!--Chipset--> X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with 2 x Realtek® ALC1220 codec 0x10EC, 0x0295 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->1 intel and 1 E2500 | <!--Opinion--> 4 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->MSI Xpower Gaming Titanium | <!--Chipset--> X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->8-channel Realtek 1220 Codec 0x10EC, 0x0295 | <!--USB-->ASMedia® ASM2142 and amd cpu | <!--Ethernet-->1 x Intel® I211AT Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion--> 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Prime B350 Plus ATX | <!--Chipset-->B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 mode) | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC887 8-Channel | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->Ryzen 5 1600x 1600 1500X 1400 - 4 x DIMM Max 64GB, DDR4 up to 2666MHz ECC and non-ECC Memory - ATX 12 inch x 9.35 inch ( 30.5 cm x 23.7 cm ) - 2 pci |- | <!--Name-->Asus PRIME B350M-A/CSM Micro ATX | <!--Chipset-->AMD B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek LAN | <!--Opinion-->Ryzen 3 1300x 1200 1100 |- | <!--Name-->AsRock Pro4 AB350 | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe 3.0 x16, 4 PCIe 2.0 x1 | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->2017 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac | <!--Chipset--> B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic Mortar | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 (x16 mode) | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->white and grey colours - 2 pci-e and 2 pci slots - m.2 in middle - atx 12 in by 9.6 in and matx versions - |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue M-ATX B350M-TI | <!--Chipset-->B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue B350I-Plus ITX | <!--Chipset-->B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock A320M-ITX MINI ITX Rev1.0 Rev2 Rev2.1 | <!--Chipset-->A320 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2018 |- | <!--Name-->Asus PRIME A320M-C R2.0 rev1.1 A320M-K | <!--Chipset-->A320 A/B300 SFF | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HD audio with Realtek ALC887 alc897 CODEC | <!--USB-->2 usb 3.1 gen 1 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2019 64bit - 3rd/2nd/1st Gen AMD Ryzen™ / 2nd and 1st Gen AMD Ryzen™ with Radeon™ Vega |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI A320M-A PRO MicroATX | <!--Chipset-->AMD A320 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio Realtek® ALC892 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 8111H | <!--Opinion-->2019 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG X399 Zenith Extreme | <!--Chipset-->AMD X399 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> supremefx s1220 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Opinion-->Threadripper 1950X 1920X 1900X TR4 skt |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->AsRock Fatality X470 Gaming K4 mATX | <!--Chipset-->X470 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->nvme | <!--Gfx-->pci-e rebar possible | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asrock Fatal1ty X470 Gaming-ITXac AMD AM4 | <!--Chipset-->AMD X470 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS ROG STRIX X470-I GAMING AM4 ITX Motherboard | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus B450-I Gaming | <!--Chipset-->AMD B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->high VRM temps - raven ridge 14nm+ like 2200G 2400G |- | <!--Name-->AsRock B450 Gaming K4 | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> alc892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> 4 ddr4 slots - low VRM thermals 3900x 3950x |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte B450 I Aorus Pro Wifi | <!--Chipset-->AMD B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 nvme pcie3 with 4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pcie | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek® ALC1220-VB codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Opinion-->very high vrm temps |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue B450i Gaming ITX | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata3 - none nvme | <!--Gfx-->pcie3 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->1G | <!--Opinion-->2021 64 2nd 3rd AMD - 2 ddr4 dimm slots |- | <!--Name-->MSI b450 tomahawk max | <!--Chipset--> b450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{n/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HD audio with Realtek® ALC892 Codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111H | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450 Pro Carbon | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> ALC codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450-A PRO | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111h | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450I GAMING Plus AC ITX | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2019 - 2nd and 3rd gen AMD - 2 ddr4 slots - |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450 GAMING PLUS MAX | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek® ALC892/ALC897 Codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111H | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MAXSUN AMD Challenger B450M M-ATX (aka Soyo) | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASRock X570 PHANTOM GAMING-ITX/TB3 Mini ITX AM4 | <!--Chipset-->X570 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->nvme | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 4.0 | <!--Audio--> ALC1200 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero | <!--Chipset-->AMD X570 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> SupremeFX7.1 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel® I211-AT and Realtek® RTL8125-CG 2.5G LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> alc1220 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Strix B550-i AM4 ITX Motherboard | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 - |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue Jingyue B550i Gaming itx | <!--Chipset-->B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->3 with 1 nvme | <!--Gfx-->1 pci-e 4 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio alc | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->1G | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit max of Ryzen 5500 (c t), 5600, 5600g (6c12t) - 2 ddr4 |- | <!--Name-->Asrock B550 PHANTOM GAMING ITX/AX | <!--Chipset-->AMD B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> alc1220 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel 2.5G | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->AsRock B550M-ITX/ac | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> Realtek ALC887/897 Audio Codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion-->2022 - 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING | <!--Chipset-->B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->PCIe Gen4 x4 & SATA3 | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 4 | <!--Audio--> supremefx S1220A | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel® I225-V 2.5Gb | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte AMD B550I AORUS PRO AX Mini-ITX rev 1.0 | <!--Chipset-->AMD B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme pci-e3 with 4 sata3 | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC1220-VB codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 2.5GbE LAN | <!--Opinion-->2021 2 x DDR4 DIMM sockets 1Rx8/2Rx8/1Rx16 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX | <!--Chipset-->B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 DP and hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC1200 | <!--USB-->USB3 USB 3.2 Gen1 Type-C | <!--Ethernet-->2.5GbE LAN | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit- finer tuning than A520's - AMD Ryzen 5000 Series/ 3rd Gen Ryzen and 3rd Gen Ryzen with Radeon Graphics CPU - Dual Channel ECC/ Non-ECC Unbuffered DDR4, 4 DIMMs - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX | <!--Chipset--> B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio ALC887 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->realtek rtl8118 | <!--Opinion-->2021 64bit - 4 ddr4 dimms - |- | <!--Name-->MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX | <!--Chipset--> B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC892 | <!--USB-->USB 3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111H | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Processors - 4 dimm ddr4 - |- | <!--Name-->MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX | <!--Chipset--> B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe 1 x M.2, Socket 3, M Key (up to Type 22110) and 1 x M.2, Socket 3, M Key (Type 2242/2260/2280) | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 with dp and hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDaudio ALC1200 | <!--USB-->USB3 1 x USB 3.1 Type-C and 1 x USB 3.1 Type-A | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8125B and Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - 4 Dimm slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue A520M-H mATX | <!--Chipset-->A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> old bios with random issues with APU ryzens - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte A520M S2H mATX | <!--Chipset-->AMD A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 1GbE | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit Zen3 65W and up - 2 ddr4 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte A520I AC mITX mini-itx | <!--Chipset-->AMD A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit Zen3 65W and up 5600G (6c12t) or 5700G (8c16t) - 2 ddr4 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->MSI A520M-A PRO mATX | <!--Chipset-->A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe 1 x M.2, Socket 3, M Key (Type 2242/2260/2280) | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC892 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111H | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - 2 ddr4 dimm slots - 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Desktop and AMD Ryzen 4000 G-Series CPU |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} ===== (Socket AM5 LGA1718 Zen4 2022/2x)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asrock Steel Legend | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e rnda2 | <!--Audio-->HD audio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - ddr5 ecc (10 chip) and non-ecc (8 chips) 64Gb @ 6000Mhz or 128GB @ 4800Mhz - |- | <!--Name-->Asrock TaiChi | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e rnda2 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio | <!--USB-->USB4 with Thunderbolt 4 equivalent | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek killer E3000 2.5GbE}} | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - ddr5 ecc (10 chip) and non-ecc (8 chips) |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Crosshair Hero | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe rnda2 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->rnda3 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit 7950x3d 120W, 7900 7800 7600 90W |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->rnda3 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus B650E-I | <!--Chipset-->B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 5 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2023 - better sound with an actual AMP, PCIe 5, USB-C display outs - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x650 B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x650 B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x650 B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MAXSUN AMD Challenger B650M WIFI M-ATX (aka Soyo) | <!--Chipset-->B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI b650i mini itx | <!--Chipset-->B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 4 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->2023 - front panel connectors at the back of the board - dead rear nvme slot and a drained CMOS battery as the CMOS button being pressed during shipping - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M Zen4 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> Zen5 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> Zen6 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} ===== (Zen? AM? 203x/3x)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} ====Intel==== [[#top|...to the top]] =====Socket 370 (2000/2)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Intel D815EEA | <!--Chipset-->866Mhz P3 and i815 chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia AGPx8 6200LE added}} | <!--Audio-->{{N/A}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|2 USB1.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested AspireOS 1.7, simple basic board with useful 5 PCI slots |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket 478 (2002/4)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->[http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://detail.zol.com.cn/motherboard/index46381.shtml&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dc.865pe.l%2Bmotherboard%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DsZB%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official Colorful Technology C.865PE-L Silver Fighter Warrior V2.3] | <!--Chipset-->865PE | <!--ACPI-->{{dunno| }} | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|tested with CDROM}} | <!--SATA-->{{dunno| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|AGP slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|ALC650 AC97}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 1.1 and 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8100 8139}} | <!--Opinion-->Still testing with NB (Nightly Build) May 2013 |- | <!--Name-->Intel 845 | <!--Chipset-->865P | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{No|intel 800}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 AD1985}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|e1000}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested ICAROS 1.3 |- | <!--Name-->Intel 845 | <!--Chipset-->865GC | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{No|intel 865 Extreme Graphics 2}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 AD1985}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|e1000}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested ICAROS 1.3 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA775 s775 (2005/8)===== an industry standard DDR2 module could in theory contain fallback JEDEC, intel XMP and AMD EPP configuration data Intel PC CL5 ram modules but an "AMD" CL5 ram module the BIOS cannot read the AMD EPP info on the SPD (Serial Presence Detect) but can recognize the CL5 timing info in the JEDEC data table. PC BIOS auto configures for the AMD ram module and boots normally. an AMD PC CL6 ram modules but an "INTEL" CL6 ram module the BIOS cannot read the INTEL XMP info on the SPD but can recognize the CL6 timing info in JEDEC data table. PC BIOS auto configures for the AMD ram module and boots normally. an INTEL PC needs CL6 ram modules but have an "AMD" CL4 ram module. INTEL BIOS cannot read the AMD EPP info on the SPD but can recognize the CL4 timing info in JEDEC data table. PC BIOS recognizes module timings as incompatible an refuses to boot. entirely separate issue if the RAM module timing specs are incompatible.(i.e. CL4 RAM in a "CL6 only" PC) {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Abit AG8 | <!--Chipset-->P915 + ICH6R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports SATA1 | <!--Gfx-->1 PCIe x16 Slot | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC658 AC97 | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8110S-32 | <!--Opinion-->2004 32bit - Firewire TI 4200R7T no |- | <!--Name-->MSI 915 Neo2 | <!--Chipset-->P915 + ICH6R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports SATA1 | <!--Gfx-->1 PCIe x16 Slot | <!--Audio-->CMI 9880L HD Audio | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcomm BCM5751 PCIe}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VIA VT6306 no |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5GC P5GC-MX | <!--Chipset-->P945GC Lakeport-GC + ICH7R northbridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 3.0 Gbit/s ports | <!--Gfx-->1 PCIe 1.1 slot | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC662 codec | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 usb2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|atheros L2}} | <!--Opinion-->2005 32bit - 3 pci slots - 4 x 240-pin DIMM Sockets max. 4GB DDR2 667/533 non-ECC - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Foxconn PC45CM-SA 45CM-S | <!--Chipset-->945GC with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 sata2 ports | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|pcie 1.0 slot with gma950 integrated}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with aLC883 codec playback}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|realtek 8139 8100sc}} | <!--Opinion-->2 dimm slots 667mhz max 4gb - can be found in Advent desktops - 2 pci-e and 2 pci - core 2 duo only e6xxx - Micro ATX (9.6” x 8.8”) - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-81945GM MFY-RH | <!--Chipset-->Intel® 945GM Express with ICH7M-DH | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA950 VGA15 and PCI-e 1.0 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC880 codec playback only rear port}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 usb 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO1000PL 82573L Gigabit Ethernet}} | <!--Opinion-->2006 MoDT term “Mobile on DeskTop.”, low TDP CPUs to work on desktop form-factor motherboards. mATX Micro ATX 24.4cm x 24.4cm - 2 DDR2 dimm 1.8v slots with 4Gb max - will not boot if PCI2 slot occupied - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-945 GCM S2C | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662 (1.x)}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|8101E Rtl 8169 (1.x)}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA945-GCM S2L | <!--Chipset-->945GC with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCi-E slot | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD Audio with ALC662 codec 2/4/5.1-channel (1.x)}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8111c 8169 (1.x)}} | <!--Opinion-->2 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM 4GB DDR2 memory max - 2 PCI-e and 2 PCI - Micro ATX form factor; 24.4cm x 19.3cm - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 945P Neo-F rev 1.0 | <!--Chipset-->P945 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCie 1.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC662 HDA | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->8110SC (rtl8169) | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 945P Neo2-F rev 1.2 | <!--Chipset-->P945 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCie 1.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC850 AC97 | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->8110SC (rtl8169) | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-P31-DS3L | <!--Chipset-->P31 with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCI Express x16 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC888 codec | <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111B | <!--Opinion-->DDR2 800Mhz up to 4Gb 4 x 240 pin - 3 PCI - ATX 12.0" x 8.3" - |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5KPL-AM /PS | <!--Chipset-->G31 with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->4 xSATA 3 Gbit/s ports | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 1.1 with integrated Intel® GMA 3100 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA VT1708B with ALC662 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8102EL 100/10 LAN with Realtek RTL8111C Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion-->2 x 2 GB DDR2 Non-ECC,Un-buffered DIMMs with 2 PCI - Intel Graphics Media Accelerator - |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5KPL/EPU | <!--Chipset-->G31 with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Pci-e 1.0 slot | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8169 Realtek 8111C}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested - 4 240-pin DIMM, Max. 4 GB - 4 pci-e and 3 pci - ATX Form Factor 12 inch x 8.2 inch ( 30.5 cm x 20.8 cm ) - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G31M ES2L | <!--Chipset-->G31 plus ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 3100 2d}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC883 (1.x), ALC883/888B (2.x)}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|RTL8111C (1.x), Atheros 8131 (2.x)}} | <!--Opinion-->reduces DRAM capacity to 4GB |- | <!--Name-->ASRock G31M-S r1.0 G31M-GS | <!--Chipset-->G31 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|4 sata2}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GMA 3100 2d not 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{partial|rtl8169 RTL8111DL 8169 (for -GS) RTL8102EL (for -S)}} | <!--Opinion-->2007 64bit Core2 - 2 DDR2 800 max 8Gig AMI bios MicroATX - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock G31M-S r2.0 | <!--Chipset-->G31 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|4 sata2}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GMA 3100 2d not 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL 8111DL 8169}} | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit core2 - 2 DDR2 800 max 8Gig MicroATX |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/apac/eng/products/desktop/bdb/dg31pr/feature/index.htm Intel DG31PR] | <!--Chipset-->iG31 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|3100 but can use PCIe 1.1 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888 playback}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8111B Rtl 8169}} | <!--Opinion-->good support |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Intel G33 Express Chipset with ich9 southbridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Intel 3100 powervr tile based | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit - embedded on Core 2 Quad, Core 2 Duo, Pentium Dual-Core CPUS with Integrated GPU Intel GMA 3100 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS P5G41T-M LX | <!--Chipset-->G41 + ICH8 + DDR3 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|X4500 some 2d only)}} | <!--Audio-->ALC887 | <!--USB-->3 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros L1c AR8131}} | <!--Opinion-->reduces maximum supported memory ddr3 from 16 to 8GB 2 dimm slots non-EEC - demotes the PCIe controller mode from revision 2.0 (5.0GT/s) to revision 1.1 (2.5GT/s |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G41MT S2 | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->VT1708S (1.3), ALC887-VD2 (1.4), ALC887 (2.1), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Atheros AR8151 l1c (1.x 2.x), | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G41MT S2PT | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC887 (1.0), VIA (2.0), ALC887 (2.1) | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8111E (1.x), Atheros AR8151 l1c (2.1), | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G41MT D3 | <!--Chipset-->G41 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 Port | <!--SATA-->4 Ports | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|GMA X4500 2d only and pci-e 1.1 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888B}} | <!--USB-->4 ports + headers | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8111 D/E}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-P41T D3P | <!--Chipset-->G41 + ICH7 with Intel Core 2 Duo (E6xxx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4ports | <!--Gfx-->GMA X4500 2d | <!--Audio-->ALC888 889/892 | <!--USB-->4 ports | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8111C or D/E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Intel DG41AN Classic | <!--Chipset-->iG41 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx-->X4500 2d | <!--Audio-->ALC888S ALC888VC | <!--USB-->4 ports | <!--Ethernet-->8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->AsRock P5B-DE | <!--Chipset-->P965 + ICH8 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|works ide legacy}} |<!--Gfx-->{{Yes|with PCI-E 1.1 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio via VT1708S}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8169}} | <!--Opinion-->2006 works well |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5B SE | <!--Chipset-->965 intel | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{N/A}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio ALC662 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No| }} | <!--Opinion-->works well except ethernet |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5W DH Deluxe P5WDG2 WS PRO | <!--Chipset-->975X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->2 ports | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe x16 slots | <!--Audio-->ALC882 AND LATER ADI 1988B | <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8052 88E8053}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TI TSB43AB22A no |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Abit IP35 | <!--Chipset-->P35 Express + ICH9R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 ports | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC888 HDA | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->two RTL8110SC | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Texas TSB43 AB22A no |- | <!--Name-->MSI P35 Neo F FL MS-7630 rev 1 | <!--Chipset-->Intel P35 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 1.1 support | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC888 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->Base model of this range of P35 mobos |- | <!--Name-->GA-P35-DS3 | <!--Chipset-->P35 and ICH9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC889A codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111B | <!--Opinion-->2008 - 4 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets max 8 GB - |- | <!--Name-->GA-EP35-DS3 (rev. 2.1) | <!--Chipset-->Intel® P35 + ICH9 Chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{unk|}} | <!--SATA-->{{unk|4 }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{unk|Realtek ALC889A codec }} | <!--USB-->{{yes | }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8111B}} | <!--Opinion-->good |- | <!--Name-->Abit IX38 Quad GT | <!--Chipset-->X38 / ICH9R Chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCI-E 2.0 slot | <!--Audio--> HD Audio ALC888 | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL 8110SC 8169SC | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Texas TSB 43AB22A no |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte X38-DQ6 | <!--Chipset-->X38 / ICH9R Chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCI-E 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC889A HDA | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->twin 8111B 8169 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-EP45 DS3 (2008) | <!--Chipset-->P45 + ICH9 or ICH10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 x SATA 3Gbit/s (SATAII0, SATAII1, SATAII2, SATAII3, SATAII4, SATAII5) | <!--Gfx-->two PCI-E v2.0 x16 slots support splitting its 16 PCIe 2.0 lanes across two cards at x8 transfers | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC888 or ALC889A codec | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->2 x Realtek 8111C chips (10/100 /1000 Mbit) | <!--Opinion-->4 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets non-EEC |- | <!--Name-->MSI P45 Platinum (2008) | <!--Chipset-->P45 + ICH9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 sata2 ports | <!--Gfx-->two PCI-E x16 v2.0 slots | <!--Audio-->ALC888 HD Audio | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->G45 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->adds Intel’s GMA X4500HD graphics engine to P45 Express features | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->G43 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->GMA X4500 2d | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->removes HD video acceleration from the G45’s features |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5E Deluxe | <!--Chipset--> X48 with ICH9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ADI 1988B codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Marvell 88E8001 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->GigaByte GA-X48 DQ6 | <!--Chipset-->X48 plus ICH9R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->8 ports | <!--Gfx-->two PCI-E x16 v2.0 slots | <!--Audio-->ALC889A | <!--USB-->8 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8111B 8169 | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TSB43AB23 no - ICH9 pairs with Intel’s 3-series (X38, P35, etc.) chipsets, in addition to the X48 Express, but excluding the G35 Express |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte EP43-DS3L and Gigabyte GA-EP43-UD3L | <!--Chipset-->P43 with ICH10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 x SATA 3Gbit/s connectors | <!--Gfx-->1 x PCI Express x16 slot PCI Express 2.0 standard | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC888 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8111C | <!--Opinion-->4 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets - 4 pcie x1 - 2 pci - ATX Form Factor; 30.5cm x 21.0cm |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte 73-pvm-s2h rev.1.0 | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA GeForce 7100 nForce 630i | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|1 port}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|3 ports SATA2}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d GeForce 7100 (vga /hdmi/dvi), 1 PCIe x16 Slot }} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ALC889A MCP73}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|7 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL 8211B MCP73}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Not, tested with Icaros Desktop 2.0.3 MCP73 is a single chip solution in three different versions |- | <!--Name-->Nvidia 7150 630i | <!--Chipset-->intel based nForce 630i (MCP73) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|ide legacy}} | <!--GFX-->GF 7150 | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD AUDIO ALC883}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|ohci echi}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8201C}} | <!--Opinion-->being tested |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2.0 x16 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> the MCP73PV or the GeForce 7050/nForce 630i |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->the MCP73S or the GeForce7025/nForce 630i |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->the MCP73V or the GeForce 7025/nForce 610i |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Atom SOC (2008/2x)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->D945CLF | <!--Chipset-->N230 single core | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|GMA945}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662}} Skt 441 | <!--USB-->{{yes|uhci and ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} | <!--Opinion-->works very well |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.clusteruk.com iMica D945GCKF2 mobo] | <!--Chipset-->Intel Atom N330 Dual Core | <!--ACPI-->wip | <!--IDE-->{{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|gma}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD AUDIO}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|uhci ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->D945GSEJT + Morex T1610 | <!--Chipset-->Atom 230 with 945GSE | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|GMA900 vga but issues with DVI output}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio with ALC662 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169 8111DL}} | <!--Opinion-->small size, runs off 12V |- | <!--Name-->ASUS AT3N7A-I | <!--Chipset-->Atom N330 Nvidia ION | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|3 ports legacy IDE}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|nouveau cube cube 2 45 quake 3 }} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with VIA 1708S codec playback}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169 device}} | <!--Opinion--><ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAiJpvu73iw</ref> good but can freeze randomly at times |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->D410PT 45nm pinetrail | <!--Chipset-->D410 and NM10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|ide legacy}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GMA3150}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC262 or ALC66x odd clicks}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8111DL}} | <!--Opinion-->some support |- | <!--Name-->45nm pinetrail | <!--Chipset-->D510 and NM10 + GMA3150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->GMA3150 | <!--Audio-->ALC888B or ALC66x | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8111DL | <!--Opinion-->some support |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-D525TUD (rev. 1.0 1.2 1.5) | <!--Chipset-->D525 NM10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->gma 3150 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111f | <!--Opinion-->2012 64 - 2 ddr3 dimm slots max 8g - Mini-ITX Form Factor; 17.0cm x 17.0cm - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- |} =====Socket 1366 (2009/10)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P6T DELUXE | <!--Chipset-->x58 + ICH10 and Intel 1st gen. (Nehalem/Lynnfield) Core i7 (8xx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|1 port}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe x16 (r2.0) slots | <!--Audio-->ADI AD2000B HD Audio | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Marvell 88E8056 Gigabit}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VIA VT6308 no |- | <!--Name-->gigabyte ex58 ds | <!--Chipset--> x58 + ICH10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111D rtl8169 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket 1156 (2010)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire M3910 | <!--Chipset-->i3 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA intel HD}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|HDAudio with Realtek ALC}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk| Realtek}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2H | <!--Chipset-->H55 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe slot | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|ALCxxx playback}} ALC888B (Rev1.x) | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8111D}} (Rev 1.x) | <!--Opinion-->Tested but no support for WLAN Realtek 8188su |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI H55M-E33 v1.0 | <!--Chipset-->E7636 M7636 H55 chipset so older i3/i5/i7 system | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio ALC889}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|PCI-E Realtek 8111DL}} | <!--Opinion-->Works well |- | <!--Name-->Asus P7P55D | <!--Chipset-->P55 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{unk| }} | <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{maybe | via codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe |rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111B/C RTL8112L }} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA 1155 H2 (2010/13)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS P8H61-I LX R2.0 | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->1 pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111f | <!--Opinion-->2013 - up to ivybridge cpus - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->Asus P8H61-I/RM/SI mini-itx | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2012 64 up to i3-2010 - OEM board from an RM machine but not ivybridge as the Asus BIOS isn't compatible with these, 0909 hacked one might work - |- | <!--Name-->asus p8h61-i lx r2.0/rm/si mini itx | <!--Chipset-->h61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2.0 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with VIA codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111e | <!--Opinion-->2012 sandy and ivy - oem from rm machine 2 x 240-Pin DDR3 DIMM sockets max DDR3 1333MHz - |- | <!--Name-->‎Bewinner 63q9c7omvs V301 ITX | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata with nvme | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 4 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8106E 100M Network Card | <!--Opinion-->2022 64 |- | <!--Name-->Biostar H61 H61MHV2 H61MHV3 Ver. 7.0 | <!--Chipset-->H61 with Intel Pentium G 2xxx series CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC662 later ALC897 | <!--USB-->4 usb2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->2014 - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H61M-D2-B3 | <!--Chipset-->H61 + Sandybridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC889 | <!--USB-->2 ports | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H61MA-D3V | <!--Chipset-->H61 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Maybe No Realtek ALC887 (Rev 2.0) ALC887 (Rev2.1) | <!--USB-->2 ports | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->GA-H61M-S2PV | <!--Chipset-->H61 with 2400k 2500k 2600k 2700k | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC887 (rev 1.0 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3) | <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Rtl811E (1.0) 8151 (2.0) Rtl8111F (2.1 2.2 2.3) | <!--Opinion-->Micro ATX Form Factor; 24.4cm x 20cm with 2 pci-e and 2 pci - |- | <!--Name-->Intel Classic Series DH61CR Desktop | <!--Chipset-->H61 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC892 | <!--USB-->4 ports | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82579V}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI H61M-P20 (G3) MS-7788 *retail MSI board *OEM Advent, etc | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|four SATAII ports}} | <!--Gfx-->1 PCI Express gen3 (retail) gen2 (oem) x16 slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8105E 100M Network Card}} | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - 2 ddr3 slots - 22.6cm(L) x 17.3cm(W) M-ATX Form Factor - BIOS - [https://www.arosworld.org/infusions/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=1149&rowstart=140&pid=6009#post_6007 works well], |- | <!--Name-->MSI H61I-E35 (B3) MS-7677 Ver.1.2 | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2d for hdmi}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|https://www.arosworld.org/infusions/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=1149&rowstart=140&pid=5861#post_5861 works}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P8H67-M | <!--Chipset-->H67 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata3 - 4 sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC887 | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P8Z68-V LX | <!--Chipset-->Z68 + Intel 2nd generation (Sandy Bridge) Core i7 (2xxx) CPU and possibly ivybridgev | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|2 sata3 - 4 sata2}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio Intel HD with ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 USB3.0 - 4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek® 8111E}} | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit SSE 4.1 and AVX - EFI bios - 4 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 (B3) | <!--Chipset-->Z68 + Ivybridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata3 - 4 sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC889 | <!--USB-->2 USB3.0 - 4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->H77 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H77-D3H 1.0 1.1 | <!--Chipset-->H77 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata 3.0 | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio VIA VT2021 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros GbE LAN chip}} | <!--Opinion-->2013 64bit i5 3550 7 3770 - 4 DDR3 slots - 2 full pci-e 2 pci slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA Z77 D3H with i3 3225 dual | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio VIA VT2021 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros GbE LAN chip}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA 1150 H3 (2013/2016)===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H87N-WIFI mITX | <!--Chipset-->H87 and Intel 4th generation (Haswell) Core i5 (4xxx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel Atheros | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus H81M-C H81M-P-SI | <!--Chipset-->H81 with 4th generation (Haswell) Core i7 (4xxx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2x3g 2x6g | <!--Gfx-->pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->hdaudio alc887 vd | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8111gr | <!--Opinion-->skt 1150 - 2 ddr3 max 16g - mini atx - |- | <!--Name-->Asus H81T | <!--Chipset-->H81 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->HD4000 igpu only | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC887-VD | <!--USB-->Intel USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 realtek 8111G | <!--Opinion-->2013 64bit intel 4th gen mini itx - external dc brick with 19v rare barrel pin 7.4MM x 5.0MM - 2 ddr3 laptop sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H81M-S2V | <!--Chipset-->H81 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC887 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® GbE LAN chip | <!--Opinion-->2014 64bit up to i7 4790K - 2 DDR3 slots - |- | <!--Name-->GA-H81M-D3V (rev. 1.0) | <!--Chipset-->H81 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|2 sata2 2 sata3 }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{unk| HDAudio Realtek® ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|intel and VIA® VL805}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|rtl8169 Realtek }} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Z87-K | <!--Chipset-->Z87 with 4th generation (Haswell) Core i7 4c8t i5 4c4t CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H | <!--Chipset-->Z87 Express | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with Realtek® ALC898 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA H97M D3H r1.0 r1.1 with i3 4360 or 4370 dual | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Z97 A with i7 4790K | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->750, 960, 970 and 980 nvidia GTX cards | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan ethernet | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA Z97X UD3H rev1.0 1.1 1.2 | <!--Chipset-->Z97 with i5 4690K | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with ALC1150 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI GAMING 5 Z97 | <!--Chipset-->Z97 with 4th generation (Haswell) Core i7 4c8t CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS Q87M-E | <!--Chipset-->Q87 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2014 64bit - 4 DDR3 slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->H99 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA 1151 Socket H4 (2015/2018)===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->Skylake CPUs have TPM 2.0 imbedded |- | <!--Name-->Asus H110 Plus H110M-A/DP | <!--Chipset--> with 6th Gen Core and 7th with bios update | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Sunrise Point-H SATA [AHCI mode] [8086 a102] | <!--Gfx-->{{No|Skylake Integrated HD Graphics use PIC-E slot}} | <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC887 Audio CODEC | <!--USB-->Sunrise Point-H USB 3.0 xHCI [8086: a12f] no usb2.0 fallback | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8111GR or 8111H RTL8111 8168 8411}} | <!--Opinion-->ATX with 3 pci-e and 2 DDR4 slots - uatx version smaller - turn off TLSF as it was causing AHI driver to corrupt. Turned off ACPI for errors but works fine once booted - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS H110M-R M-ATX | <!--Chipset-->H110 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 x SATA 6Gb/s | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio Realtek® ALC887 codec | <!--USB-->Intel USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->2016 64bit 6th Gen Skylake Core™ i7/Core™ 6950X i7-6970HQ i7-6700K 4c8t hyperthreading, i5/Core™ i5-6600K 4c4t i3/Pentium® / Celeron® - 2 DDR4 DIMMS Max 32GB 2133MHz - 1 full pci-e and 2 pci-e 1 - |- | <!--Name-->Asus H110T | <!--Chipset-->H110 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->intel igpu only | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Dual Intel/Realtek GbE languard | <!--Opinion-->2016 - mini itx 12v / 19v laptop type rare barrel pin 7.4MM x 5.0MM - 2 sodimm ddr4 slots - no pci-e slot - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2H MATX Rev1.0 | <!--Chipset-->H110 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC887 codec | <!--USB-->2 (USB 3.1 Gen 1) ports with 4 us2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® GbE LAN | <!--Opinion--> 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->Msi H110M-PRO-VH | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 x SATA 6Gb/s | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 | <!--Audio--> Realtek® ALC887 Codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111h | <!--Opinion--> 6th gen intel - 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus H170 Pro Gaming | <!--Chipset-->H170 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->Asmedia USB3.1/3.0 | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI Z170A TOMAHAWK | <!--Chipset-->Z170 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sara, 1 x 2280 Key M(PCIe Gen3 x4/SATA), 1 x 2230 Key E(Wi-Fi) | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan | <!--Opinion-->2016 64bit up to i7 7700k - 2 DDR4 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->GIGABYTE GA-B250M-DS3H HD3P D3H D2V | <!--Chipset-->B250 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2018 coffee lake intel 8th gen |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus | <!--Chipset--> with Kaby Lake X Intel 7th Gen | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> up to 16 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus | <!--Chipset--> Z390 with Kaby Lake X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> up to 16 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> Q370M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> H370M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> B360M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Rampage | <!--Chipset-->x299 with i9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> - up to 24 to 44 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte | <!--Chipset--X299 > | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket LGA 1200 (2020/2022)===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->MSI H510M-A PRO (MS-7D22) | <!--Chipset--> with 10th gen Comet Lake X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2021 64bit - up to 16 pcie lanes rebar possible |- | <!--Name-->Asus PRIME H410M-E Asrock H470M-HDV/M.2 | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus | <!--Chipset--> with 11th gen Rocket Lake X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> up to 16 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket LGA 1700 (2023/ )===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Alder Lake / 14th gen Raptor Lake | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2021 2022 64bit - QoS work to 2 level cpus, P down to E cores - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Meteor Lake / 15th gen Arrow Lake | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2023 2024 64bit 10nm - 3 level cpus, Low Power Island (SOC tile) to E onto P cores - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Lunar lake | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2025 64bit 7nm - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} ===Chromebooks=== For most (EOL) cromebooks, the recommended UEFI path forward is to: *put the device into Developer Mode *disable firmware write protection *flash MrChromebox's UEFI Full ROM firmware *install ChromeOS Flex, Linux, etc See [https://mrchromebox.tech/#home MrChrome], [https://mrchromebox.tech MrChrome] and the [https://www.reddit.com/r/chrultrabook/ chrultrabook subreddit] for more info ChromeOS has several different boot modes, which are important to understand in the context of modifying your device to run an alternate OS: *Normal/Verified Boot Mode Can only boot Google-signed ChromeOS images Full verification of firmware and OS kernel No root access to the system, no ability to run Linux or boot other OSes Automatically enters Recovery Mode if any step of Verified Boot fails Default / out-of-the-box setting for all ChromeOS devices *Recovery Mode User presented with Recovery Mode boot screen (white screen with 'ChromeOS is missing or damaged') Boots only USB/SD with signed Google recovery image Automatically entered when Verified Boot Mode fails Can be manually invoked: On Chromebooks, via keystroke: [ESC+Refresh+Power] On Chromeboxes, by pressing a physical recovery button at power-on On Convertibles/Tablets, by holding the Power, Vol+, and Vol- buttons for 10s and then release Allows for transition from Verified Boot Mode to Developer Mode On Chromebooks/Chromeboxes, via keystroke: [CTRL+D] On Convertibles/Tablets, via button press: Vol+/Vol- simultaneously Booting recovery media on USB/SD will repartition/reformat internal storage and reload ChromeOS Note: The ChromeOS recovery process does not reset the firmware boot flags (GBB Flags), so if those are changed from the default, they will still need to be reset for factory default post-recovery. *Developer Mode "Jailbreak" mode built-in to every ChromeOS device Loosened security restrictions, allows root/shell access, ability to run Linux via crouton Verified Boot (signature checking) disabled by default, but can be re-enabled Enabled via [CTRL+D] on the Recovery Mode boot screen Boots to the developer mode boot screen (white screen with 'OS verification is off' text), The user can select via keystroke <pre> ChromeOS (in developer mode) on internal storage ( [CTRL+D] ) ChromeOS/ChromiumOS on USB ( [CTRL+U] ) Legacy Boot Mode ( [CTRL+L] ) </pre> Boot screen displays the ChromeOS device/board name in the hardware ID string (eg, PANTHER F5U-C92, which is useful to know in the context of device recovery, firmware support, or in determining what steps are required to install a given alternate OS on the device. *Legacy Boot Mode Unsupported method for booting alternate OSes (Linux, Windows) via the SeaBIOS RW_LEGACY firmware Accessed via [CTRL+L] on the developer mode boot screen Requires explicit enabling in Developer Mode via command line: sudo crossystem dev_boot_legacy=1 Most ChromeOS devices require a RW_LEGACY firmware update first Boots to the (black) SeaBIOS splash screen; if multiple boot devices are available, prompt shows the boot menu Note: If you hear two beeps after pressing [CTRL+L], then either your device doesn't have a valid Legacy Boot Mode / RW_LEGACY firmware installed, or legacy boot capability has not been been enabled via crossystem. https://www.howtogeek.com/278953/how-to-install-windows-on-a-chromebook/ Chromebooks don’t officially support other OSs. You normally can’t even install as Chromebooks ship with a special type of BIOS designed for Chrome OS. But there are ways to install, if you’re willing to get your hands dirty and potentially ruin everything [https://mrchromebox.tech/#devices Firmware Compatibility] [https://wiki.galliumos.org/Hardware_Compatibility Here is the list of hardware that the GalliumOS supports and information on getting Gallium OS on to those devices] Development on GalliumOS has been discontinued, and for most users, GalliumOS is not the best option for running Linux due to lack of hardware support or a kernel that's out of date and lacking important security fixes. Meet Eupnea and Depthboot, the successors to Galliumos and Breath [https://eupnea-linux.github.io This is the bleeding edge] Most older Chromebooks need the write-protect screw removed in order to install MrChromebox's firmware that allows you to install other operating systems. Most newer Chromebooks don't work in the same way as there is no write-protect screw on them. Very rough guide to '''total''' (i.e. all cores / threads) processor performance (AROS usually uses only the [https://gmplib.org/gmpbench one core]) [[#top|...to the top]] <pre> 060000 AMD Ryzen 9 7900X (AM5 170W) 056000 AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 055000 AMD Ryzen 9 5900X3D 053000 AMD Ryzen 9 5900X (AM4 105W), AMD Ryzen 9 3950X (105W), 049000 AMD Ryzen 9 PRO 7940HS (FP8 65W) 048000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 047000 AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 7840HS (FP7 65W), AMD Ryzen 7 8840HS, AMD Ryzen Z2 Extreme, 045000 AMD Ryzen 9 6900HX, Intel Core i7-12800H 044000 AMD Ryzen 7 5700G (AM4 ), AMD Ryzen 9 6900HS, 043000 Intel Core i5-13500H, AMD Ryzen 5 5600X3D (AM4 95W), AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 5750GE (AM4 35W) 042000 AMD Ryzen 7 5700GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen Z1 Extreme (top TDP), AMD Ryzen 5 8600G, 041500 AMD Ryzen 9 5900HS, Intel Core i7-12700T, AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS (8c16t 45W), AMD 8840U, 041000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800H (FP6 45W), AMD Ryzen 5 5600 (65W), 040000 AMD Ryzen 7 6800U, Intel Core i5-12490F, Intel Core i5-12500E, 039000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800HS (FP6 35W), AMD Ryzen 5 8500G 8600GE, AMD Ryzen Z2 (8c16t), 037000 AMD Ryzen 5 6600H, AMD Ryzen 3 7736U, AMD Ryzen 5 7640U, 036000 AMD Ryzen 5 3600X (95W), AMD Ryzen 5 5500 (AM4 65W), 035000 AMD Ryzen 5 6600U, Intel Core i5-11400F, AMD Ryzen 5 5600H, 034000 AMD Ryzen 7 7730U (FP6 15W 8c16t), AMD Ryzen 5 8540U, AMD Ryzen 4800H, AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 5650GE, 033000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800U (FP6 25W 8c16t), AMD Ryzen 7 4800HS, AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750GE, 032500 AMD Ryzen 7 2700X, AMD Ryzen 5 5600GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen Z1, AMD Ryzen 7 7840U, 032000 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650G (AM4 45W), AMD Ryzen 7 4800U, AMD Ryzen 7 5825U (FP6 8c16t 15W), 031500 AMD Ryzen 5 4500 (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (65W), AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750U (8c16t), 029000 AMD Ryzen 5 4600G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 1700X (AM4 95W), 028500 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 5675U, AMD Ryzen 7 1700 (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 7 2700 (65W), M3 Pro 12c, 028000 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 5650U, AMD Ryzen 5 4400G, AMD Ryzen 5 5560U (FP6 25W 6c12t Zen3), 027000 AMD Ryzen 5 5600U (FP6 25W 6c12t Zen3), 026500 AMD Ryzen 5 4600HS (FP6 35W 6c12t), Apple M1 Pro, AMD Ryzen 5 5625U (FP6 15W 6c12t), 026000 AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 5350GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen 5 2600 (65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3500X (AM4 95W), 024000 AMD Ryzen 5 1600X (95W), AMD Ryzen 3 5300GE, AMD Ryzen 7 5700U (FP6 25W 8c16t Zen2), 023000 AMD Ryzen 3 7330U (FP6 15W 4c8t), AMD Ryzen 7 4700U (FP6 25W 8c8t), AMD Ryzen V3C18I (? 15W), 022000 Intel Core i5-11300H, AMD Ryzen Z2 Go (4c8t), AMD Ryzen 5 5500U (FP6 25W 6c12t Zen2), 020500 AMD Ryzen 3 4300G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 3 5450U 5425U, AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650U (6c12t), 019500 Intel Core i5-1135G7, AMD Ryzen 5 5500H, AMD Ryzen 5 4600U (FP6 25W 6c), 019000 AMD Ryzen 5 3400G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 2500X, AMD Ryzen 5 7520U, 017750 AMD Ryzen 5 3400GE (AM4 35W), Intel Core i5-8400, AMD Ryzen 5 1500X (AM4 65W), 017500 Intel Core i7-6700K, Intel i5-10400, AMD Ryzen 5 4500U (FP6 25W 6c6t), AMD Ryzen 3 5400U, 017000 AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 4350GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen 3 5300U (FP6 25W 4c8t), 016500 AMD Ryzen 7 3750H, AMD Ryzen Embedded V1756B (FP5 45W), AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 4200GE, 016000 AMD Ryzen 5 2400G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3550H, Intel Core i7-6700T, 015000 AMD Ryzen 3 7320U, Ryzen 7 3700U, Ryzen 3200G (AM4 65W), Intel Core i7-8550U, 014000 AMD Ryzen 5 2400GE (AM4 35W), Intel Core i5-8500T, AMD Ryzen 2700U, AMD Ryzen 5 3550U, 013500 AMD Ryzen 5 3500U (FP5 15W 4c8t), AMD Ryzen 3 4300U, AMD Athlon Gold 4150GE, 013250 AMD Ryzen 3 3200GE (AM4 45W), AMD Ryzen 3 1300X (65W), AMD Ryzen 3 2200G, 013000 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 2500U (FP4 25W), AMD Ryzen Embedded V1605B (FP5 25W), 012500 AMD Ryzen 5 2500U (FP5 25W 4c8t), Intel Core i3-8300T, Intel Xeon X5680, 012300 Intel Core i7-8565U, Intel Core i5-8350U, Intel Core i7-8700, 012200 ARM Cortex-X3 Prime Snapdragon SD8G2 Gen2 4nm 64-bit Kryo CPU, 012000 AMD Ryzen 3 2200GE, AMD Ryzen 3 1200 (65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3500C, 011500 AMD Ryzen 3 3300U, Intel Core i3-8100T, Intel Core i5-8265U 010500 AMD Ryzen 3 2300U (FP5 25W 4c4t), 010300 Intel Core i7-3630QM, Intel Core i5-6600T, 010200 Intel Core i5-6440HQ, Intel Core i7-3610QM, 010000 AMD FX-8320E (AM3+ 125W 8c8t), Intel Core i5-7500T, Intel Core i5-4690, 008700 AMD FX-6130 (AM3+ 90W 6c6t), Intel Core i5-7400T, Intel Core i5-4590T, 008600 Intel Core i5-6500T, AMD Athlon 300GE (AM4, 35W), AMD Athlon Gold 7220U, 008500 AMD Ryzen R1606G (FP5 15W), AMD FX-6300 (AM3 65W 6c6t), Intel Core i5-2500K, 008000 AMD Ryzen 3 3200U, AMD Ryzen 3 3250U, Intel Alderlake ULX N100 / N95, i7-7600U, 007200 AMD Ryzen 3 2200U (FP5 25W 2c4t), Intel Core i3-7100T, Intel Twinlakes N150 N200, 006900 AMD Ryzen R1505G (FP5, 15W), Intel Core i7-6600U, Qualcomm Snapdragon 888 5G, 006500 Intel Core i7-6500U, AMD Athlon Gold 3150U, Intel Celeron N5105 (FCBGA1338, 15W), 006300 Intel Core i3-8130 (15W), Intel Celeron N5095 (FCBGA1338 15W), 006100 Intel Core i5-6300U, Intel Core i5-7200U, Snapdragon 7325, Intel i7-5500U, 006060 AMD A10-6800B APU, Intel Core i5-4570T, Intel Core i5-5257U, 006000 Intel Core i5-6200U, Intel Core i3-7130U, Qualcomm Snapdragon 888 4G, Intel i7-4500U, 005900 AMD Athlon Silver 3050U, Intel Xeon X5550, Intel Core i5-4300M, ARM A76 RK3588, 005800 Intel Celeron J4125 J4105 (FCBGA1090 15W), Intel Core i5-3470T, AMD A8-6600K APU, 005600 Intel Core i5-3360M, Intel Core i7-3520M, Intel Core i5-4210M, ARM A76 RK3588S, 005400 ARM Cortex-A78 MediaTek Dimensity 1200 900, AMD Athlon Silver 7120U, Snapdragon 860, 005300 AMD PRO A12-9800B 7th Gen APU (FP4 15W), AMD FX-4300 4c4t, AMD Ryzen R1305G, 005200 AMD PRO A10-8770E, AMD A10-9700E, AMD PRO A10-9700B (FP4 15W), Intel Core i3-4130T, 005100 AMD RX-427BB (FP3 15W), AMD A10-9620P, AMD A12-9720P, Intel Core i5-5350U, Intel Core i3-8145U, 005100 AMD A8-5500 (FM2 65W), AMD A10 PRO-7800B APU, Intel Pentium Silver N5000, 005100 Intel Core i3-7100U (FCBGA1356 15W), Intel Core i7-5500U, Intel Core i3-6100U, 005000 Intel Core i5-5300U, Intel Core i5-3320M, AMD Athlon 300U, 004900 Intel Core i5-4300U, Intel Core i5-5200U, Intel Core i3-4100M, 004860 Intel Core i7-2620M, Intel Core i7-2640M, 004650 Intel Core i5-2520M, Intel Core i5-3210M, AMD A10-9600P (FP4 4c 15W), 004600 AMD PRO A8-9600B, AMD PRO A12-8830B, AMD PRO A10-8730B, AMD A12-9700P, 004400 AMD A10-8700P A8-8600P, Intel Core i5-4200U, Intel Core i5-2540M, 004000 Intel Core i5-2430M, AMD PRO A8-8600B, AMD 3020e, MT6797, 003850 Intel Core i5-2410M, Intel Core i3-2120 (LGA1155 65W), 003800 AMD A10-4600M APU, AMD A10 PRO-7350B APU, AMD A10-5750M APU, 003600 AMD A8-6500T APU, AMD A8-7410 APU, AMD PRO A6-8550B, AMD A8-5550M APU 003500 AMD GX-424CC SOC (FT3b 25W 4c4t), Intel Core i3-4000M, 003450 ARM A75 Unisoc Tiger T610 (8c 5W), 003400 AMD A10-7300 APU, AMD A6-7310 APU, AMD A8-6410, AMD A10-5745M APU 003350 Intel Pentium G2020, Intel Core i3-3120M, AMD R-464L APU, 003300 AMD GX-420CA SOC (FT3 BGA769 25W), AMD A6-9500E, 003200 AMD A6-6310 APU, AMD A6-6400B APU, AMD A6-8570E, AMD A8-4500M APU, AMD A6-7400K APU 003000 AMD A8-7150B, AMD A9-9410 / A9-9425, AMD A6-8500B (FP4 15W), AMD A8-7100, 002900 AMD PRO A6-8530B, AMD A6-8500P, AMD A8-3500M APU, Intel Core i3-2120T, 002700 AMD Embedded GX-420GI (FP4 15W), AMD PRO A6-9500B, AMD GX-415GA, AMD A4-6210 APU, 002600 AMD A6-9225, AMD A8-4555M APU, 002500 AMD A4-5000 APU (FT3 15W), AMD A6-9220, AMD A6-3420M APU, 002450 Intel Celeron 2950M, Intel Pentium N3700, Intel Core i3-2350M, 002400 Intel Celeron N3150, Intel Core i3-2330M, Intel Xeon W3505, 002300 Intel Celeron N3350, AMD A4-9120, AMD A4-9125, Intel Core i3-2310M, 002200 AMD A9-9420e, AMD A6-5350M APU, AMD E2-6110 APU, AMD A6-9210, AMD E2-9000e, 002000 AMD GX-412HC, AMD A4-4300M APU, AMD A6 PRO-7050B APU, AMD A6-4400M APU, AMD A6-7000, 001925 Intel Core2 Duo E6700, Intel Pentium Extreme Edition 965, Intel Core i3-370M, 001750 Intel Core i3-2365M 2375M, AMD A4-9120C, Intel Core2 Duo T8300, AMD E2-3800, Qualcomm MSM8939, 001600 AMD GX-222GC (BGA769 FT3b 15W), AMD A4-9120e, AMD Embedded GX-215JJ, AMD A4-4355M APU, 001550 Intel Core2 Duo SL9400 T7600 T6600, AMD E2-3200, AMD A6-9220e, MT8783, 001500 AMD GX-218GL SOC, AMD A6-4455M, AMD A4-5150M APU, ARM A55 RK3566 (4c 3W), 001400 AMD GX-217GA SOC, ARM Cortex-A53 4c4t H700, Allwinner A133P, AMD A4-3300M APU, 001300 AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-64 TL-62, Intel Core2 Duo T7300, Intel Core2 Duo T5600, 001250 AMD GX-412TC SOC, AMD A4-3320M APU, AMD Athlon 64 X2 QL-66, Intel Core2 Duo T7200 001200 AMD Athlon 64 X2 2c TK-57, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-60 RM-74, AMD E1-2500 APU 001150 Intel Core2 Duo T5550, Intel Core2 Duo L7500, AMD E2-3000M APU, ARM A35 RK3266, 001100 Intel Core2 Duo T5300, AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800, Intel Core2 Duo E4300, MT8127, 001050 AMD E1-6010 APU, Intel Pentium T4300, 001050 AMD Athlon 64 FX-57, AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core TK-55, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-52 001000 Intel Core2 Duo T5500, Intel Core2 Duo L7300, Intel Core2 Duo SU9400, 000950 AMD G-T56N, AMD Athlon 64 3100+, AMD E2-2000 APU, 000950 AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-50, AMD E1-2200 APU, Intel Celeron U3400, 000925 AMD TurionX2 Dual Core Mobile RM-72, AMD Sempron 140 000920 Intel Celeron SU2300, Intel Core2 Duo T5200, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-56 000890 AMD E2-1800 APU, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-58 000880 AMD G-T56E, AMD G-T48E, 000860 AMD E-450 APU, AMD E-350 APU, AMD Athlon LE-1620 000820 AMD A4-1250 APU, AMD Athlon LE-1600, 000810 AMD E1-2100 APU, Intel Core Duo T2500, 000810 Intel Atom D510, Intel Core2 Duo U7500, 000800 AMD Geode NX 2400+, AMD Turion 64 Mobile ML-42, AMD Athlon II Neo K325, 000760 AMD V140, AMD E1-1200 APU, AMD Athlon 64 3300+, 000730 Intel Core Duo T2400, AMD Turion 64 Mobile MK-38, AMD Sempron 3600+, 000700 Intel Core2 Duo U7600 U7700, AMD Sempron LE-1200, AMD V120 000680 AMD GX-212JC SOC, AMD E-300 APU, AMD A4-1200 APU, 000670 AMD Turion 64 Mobile MK-36 ML-37 ML-40, Mobile AMD Sempron 3800+ 000640 Intel Atom N2600, Intel Atom N570, Mobile AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 000640 Intel Core Duo T2300, Intel Core Duo T2050, 000630 VIA Eden X2 U4200, AMD Sempron LE-1100, AMD Sempron 3100+ 3600+, 000620 AMD C-70 C70 APU, Intel Atom 330, AMD G-T40N, AMD Athlon Neo MV-40, 000610 Intel Core2 Duo U7300, AMD Athlon II Neo K125 K145, 000600 Intel Atom N550, Intel Pentium 4, AMD Athlon 64 2800+, 000580 AMD C-60 C60, AMD G-T40E, AMD Sempron LE-1250 000530 AMD C-50 C50, Intel Celeron M 723, AMD Sempron 210U, 000490 AMD GX-210JA SOC, PowerPC 970 G5 IBM's 970 server CPU (2c), 000470 Mobile AMD Sempron 3500+, Mobile AMD Athlon XP-M 2200+, 000460 AMD Athlon XP 2500+, AMD Sempron 3500+, Mobile Intel Pentium 4, 000440 Intel Atom D425, Intel Atom N470, POWER 4 PPC, 000410 Intel Pentium M, Intel Celeron M, AMD Sempron 2300+ 000400 Intel Atom N450, AMD Sempron 2400+, 000340 Intel Atom D410, AMD G-T52R, AMD C-30, AMD Sempron 2200+ 000330 Intel Atom N455, Intel Atom N280, Intel Atom N270 (1c1t 2W), Intel P3, 000320 Freescale NXP QorIQ P1022 000310 PowerPC G4 7447 1Ghz (1c1t 15W), PPC440 core, 000230 PowerPC PPC G3/PPC 750, 000160 Pentium II, Motorola 68060 000080 Intel 80486, Motorola 68030, 000040 Intel 80386, 000030 Motorola 68020 000008 Motorola 68000 </pre> === Recommended hardware (32-bit) === [[#top|...to the top]] Recommended hardware is hardware that has been tested with latest release of AROS and is relatively easy to purchase second hand (ie. ebay). This hardware also comes with commitment that compatibility will be maintained with each future release. If in future decision will be made to drop any of the recommended hardware from the list (for example due to it no longer being available for purchase), such hardware will move to list of legacy supported systems and will have an indicated end of life date so that users have time to switch to other hardware. {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" | <!--OK-->{{Yes|'''Works well'''}} || <!--Not working-->{{No|'''Does not work'''}} || <!--Not applicable-->{{N/A|'''N/A not applicable'''}} |- |} ==== Virtual Hardware ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | VirtualBox 7.x (Other/Unknown template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|PCNET32<br/>E1000}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- | VMware 16+ (Other32 template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|PCNET32}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- | QEMU 8.x ("pc" and "q35" machines) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|PCNET32}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- |} ==== Laptops ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | ACER Aspire One ZG5 || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(IDE)}} || {{Yes|GMA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|RTL8169}} || {{Yes|ATHEROS}} || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- | Dell Latitude D520 || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{Yes|GMA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|BCM4400}} || {{No|}} || {{Yes|Atheros AR5BXB63}} || * select Intel Core 2 64-bit version, not Celeron 32-bit version <br/> * replace WiFi card to get wireless working |- |} ==== Desktop Systems ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | Fujitsu Futro S720 || {{Yes|SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * no 2D/3D acceleration<br/> * use USB ports at back |- |} ==== Motherboards ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | ASUS P8Z68V LX || {{Yes|SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * add external PCIe video card for better performance |- | Gigabyte GA-MA770T UD3/UD3P || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * requires external PCIe video card |- | ASUS M2N68-AM SE2 || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{Yes|NVIDIA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|NVNET}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * connecting a disk via SATA connector is not supported at this time <br/> * add external PCIe video card for better performance |- | Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2H || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * add external PCIe video card for better performance |- |} ==== Legacy supported hardware ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="10%" |EOL ! width="35%" |Comments |- | iMica || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{Yes|GMA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || 2026-12-31 || |- | Gigabyte GA-MA770 UD3 || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(IDE)}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || 2026-12-31 || * requires external PCIe video card |- |} === Recommended hardware (64-bit) === [[#top|...to the top]] Recommended hardware is hardware that has been tested with latest release of AROS and is relatively easy to purchase second hand (ie. ebay). This hardware also comes with commitment that compatibility will be maintained with each future release. ==== Virtual Hardware ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | VirtualBox 7.x (Other/Unknown (64-bit) template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|PCNET32<br/>E1000}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- | VMware 16+ (Other64 template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|E1000}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- | QEMU 8.x ("pc" and "q35" machines) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|PCNET32}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- |} ==== Motherboards ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | ASUS P8Z68V LX || {{Yes|SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- |} ==References== [[#top|...to the top]] {{reflist}} {{BookCat}} 2uazyks9hqf874xchud1xpeqdhc5hui 4520794 4520793 2025-07-01T16:49:34Z Jeff1138 301139 4520794 wikitext text/x-wiki {{ArosNav}} ==Introduction== This a list of computer hardware tested with mostly native AROS installs and, in the recommended sections, of virtual machines With 64bit support it is recommended 8Gb ram is needed and that SSE 4.1 and AVX are supported in the CPU i.e. from year 2012 for Intel CPUs and 2013 for AMD CPUs. They are x86-64 instruction sets designed to perform the same operations on multiple data items simultaneously, a technique known as Single Instruction, Multiple Data (SIMD). This allows for increased performance in tasks involving parallel computation. SSE 4.1 is a 128-bit SIMD instruction set, while AVX introduced 256-bit SIMD, further enhancing performance. Some apps require these features to run well, like 3D, multimedia decoding or JIT (javascript) in Odyssey web browser. If not the apps may work slower or might fail. If you have encountered differently (i.e. problems, incompatibilities, faults, niggles, annoyances, environment, errors, review of setup etc) please update this information. Please bear in mind that AROS has only a few hardware driver developers, whilst Linux counts in the tens and Windows in the hundreds. So consequently, be aware that driver support on native is now a decade behind linux, MacOS(TM) and Windows(TM). Although still being worked upon Alternatively, an hosted OS (windows or linux) of AROS could give better results. [[#Laptops]] [[#Netbook]] [[#Desktop Systems]] [[#Recommended hardware (32-bit)]] [[#Recommended hardware (64-bit)]] === Laptops === [[#top|...to the top]] * 2006/2007 Dell Latitude D-series laptops - business class machines, good support in Aros, easy to replace wifi card * 2006 some [https://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/laptops-portable-pcs/laptops-and-netbooks/toshiba-satellite-pro-a200-28550/review Satellite Pro A200] * 2008 For the tiny carry anywhere, the early run of Acer Aspire netbooks Rough estimate from taking a random laptop notebook what you can expect from a Native install of AROS {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Date ! width="5%" |Overall ! width="5%" |Gfx VESA ! width="5%" |Gfx 2D Acceleration ! width="10%" |Gfx 3D Acceleration ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Before 2002 || Poor to OK || VESA 90% || 2D 10% || {{N/A}} || Audio 10% || 40% || Wired 70% || 2% || Max RAM 512MB |- | 2002-2005 || OK || VESA 95% || 2D 10% || 3D 0% || Audio 30% || 70% || Wired 50% || 4% || Max RAM 1GB |- | 2005-2012 || Good || VESA 98% || 2D 60% || 3D 30% || Audio 60% || 80% || Wired 30% || 10% || Max RAM 2 / 4GB |- | 2013-2017 || OK || VESA 98% || 2D 10% || 3D 0% || Audio 20% || 60% || Wired 20% || 0% || Max RAM 8GB / 16GB |- | 2018-2025 || Poor || VESA 98% || 2D 0% || 3D 0% || Audio 0% || 0% || Wired 20% || 0% || Max RAM 32GB |- | 202X-202x || Poor || VESA 95% || 2D 0% || 3D 0% || Audio 0% || 0% || Wired 10% || 0% || Max RAM 64GB |- |} 3D tests now conducted with apps found in Demos/AROS/Mesa and run at default size (may need to View As -> Show All to see them. Any laptop with Windows 7(TM) 64bit or higher install, the bios and hard drive set in uefi/gpt mode (install of AROS incompatible) Most vendor suppliers get OEM (original equipment manufacturers) to make their laptops. These brand name companies purchase their laptops from *80% ODM (Original Design Manufacturer) such as Quanta, Compal, Wistron, Inventec, Foxconn (Hon Hai), Flextronics and Asus (now Pegatron) *20% MiTAC, FIC, Arima, Uniwill, ECS, Tonfang Origin and Clevo {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" | <!--OK-->{{Yes|'''Works well'''}} || <!--May work-->{{Maybe|'''Works a little'''}} || <!--Not working-->{{No|'''Does not work'''}} || <!--Not applicable-->{{N/A|'''N/A not applicable'''}} |- |} ====Acer/Gateway/Emachines==== Company founded under the name of Multitech in Taiwan in 1976, renamed to Acer or Acer Group in 1987 Order of build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Packard Bell Aspire Extensa TimeLine Travelmate </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="2%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Travelmate 505 506 507 508 Series || <!--Chipset-->P2 Celeron 466Mhz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes|boots}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Neo Magic Magic Graph 128XD (NM2160)}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 Crystal CS}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 minimal support but no audio etc - 506T, 506DX, 507T, 507DX, 508T |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 340 342 343 345 347 || <!--Chipset-->ALi M1621 with piii || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Trident Cyber 9525 || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1969 Solo-1}} || <!--USB-->2 ALi OHCI USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->a few have Intel e100 || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2000 32bit - 340T, 341T, 342T, 342TV, 343TV, 345T, 347TV |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 350 351 352 353 || <!--Chipset-->Ali with piii || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Trident Cyber Blade DSTN/Ai1 || <!--Audio-->{{No|ali5451}} || <!--USB-->2 USB 1.1 Ali M5237 OHCI || <!--Ethernet-->e100 || <!--Wireless-->Acer InviLink IEEE 802.11b || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit very limited support but no support for PCMCIA O2 Micro OZ6933 - 350T, 351TEV, 352TEV, 353TEV |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 610 series 611 612 613 614 || <!--Chipset-->815 P3 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 82815 cgc || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->Intel e100 pro || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit - 610TXVi 610T 611TXV 612TX 613TXC |- | Aspire 3003LM || SIS AMD 3000 1.8GHz || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SIS AGP M760GX (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97 SIS codec}} || 3 USB 2.0 || {{yes|SIS900}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4318 AirForce One 54g}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 sempron |- | Travelmate 2310 Series ZL6 || Intel Celeron M 360 1.4GHz with SiS 661MX || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SiS Mirage M661MX (VESA only)}} || {{yes|SIS SI7012 AC97 with realtek ALC203 codec speakers only}} || || {{yes|SIS900}} || {{N/A|LM version has pci card slot but no antenna}} || Icaros 2.1.1 || 2004 32bit - No USB boot option but boot from DVD - reports of wifi losing connection (isolate/remove the metallic grounding foil ends of the antennas) - 2312LM_L - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 3000 3002LMi 3500 5000 || <!--Chipset-->AMD CPU W-with SIS M760 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->SIS 760 || <!--Audio-->SIS || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->SIS 900 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4318 swap for Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 3050 5020 5050 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Single and Turion MK-36 Dual and RS480 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - RS482M Xpress 1100 or RS485M Xpress 1150 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio Realtek ALC883 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5006G or Broadcom BCM 4318 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit MK36 gets very hot |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 2410 2420 2430 series || <!--Chipset-->915GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel Mobile 915GMS 910GML || <!--Audio-->Intel AC97 ICH6 with ALC203 codec || <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL-8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5005GS || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 2428AWXMi - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 3610 - WISTRON MORAR 3614WLMI || <!--Chipset-->Intel 915 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 2D and 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|[http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=644066&postcount=13 AC97]}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL 8139 8139C+}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros AR5001X+, AR5BMB5 or Broadcom 4318}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.2.4 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit with good support [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6205188#post6205188 wifi issues] |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 2480 series 2483 WXMi (HannStar J MV4 94V) 2483NWXCi Aspire 3680, 3690 || <!--Chipset-->940GML i943 with Celeron 430 1.77GHz - 14.1" || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D and 3D openGL 1.x - Tunnel 181 gearbox 104 scores}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC883 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|3 USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8038 yukon sky2}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 5k AR5005G AR5BMB5 mini pci}} suspect laptop hardware issues || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 Works well shame about the internet options - noisy fan - poor battery life - no boot option for TI based mass storage sd card - Max 2GB memory - LCD Inverter Board IV12090/T-LF - |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 2490 series 2492WXMi || <!--Chipset-->940GML || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 945 2D and 3D tunnel 164 gearbox 105}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR5005GS suspect hardware issue}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit - 15inch screen - strange curved up at ends keyboard style - overall plastic construction - Atheros AR5005G(s) - |- | <!--Name-->Gateway ML6227B MA7 || <!--Chipset-->Celeron M 520 1.6Ghz with 945GM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|945GM 2D and 3D tunnel 169 gearbox 132}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDA Intel with STAC9250 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8038}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|8187L but swap ath5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 15.4 ultrabrite widescreen - Wifi Switch on side Fn/F2 - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 5630-6796 6288 BL50 || <!--Chipset-->T5200 T5500 Intel® Core™2 Duo T7200 T7400 T7600 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel® GMA 950 with S-Video out}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 USB}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom BCM4401}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945abg swap for Atheros 5K}} || <!--Test Distro-->Tiny AROS || <!--Comments-->2006 - 64bit 39.1 cm (15.4" 1280 x 800) - 2 DDR2-SDRAM slots max 4GB - green mobo?? - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 5633WMLI BL51 || <!--Chipset-->T5500 with Intel® 945PM/GM Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia Go 7300}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with Realtek codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom 440x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 swap for Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Tiny Aros || <!--Comments-->2007 64 bit dual core2 - 15.4 WXGA screen - ddr2 max 4gb - OrbiCam no support - ENE chipset SD card - blue mobo?? - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 9410 9420 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core Duo with 945PM Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300 - 128 MB VRAM G72M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel HD audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 8111 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945ABG but could swap with atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - 17in TFT 1,440 x 900 WXGA+ - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->eMachines E510 series KAL10 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Celeron M 560 2.13Ghz with PM965 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel x3100 || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel with codec}} || <!--USB-->Intel || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5906M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros G AR5BXB63 bios issue??}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2007 32bit very budget machine with InsydeH20 bios and F10 boot menu |- | <!--Name-->ACER Aspire 5920 5920G || <!--Chipset-->Santa Rosa Core 2 Duo T7300 T7500 later T9300 with GM965 and PM965(G) Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for X3100M or 8600M GS (rev a1) 9500M GT 256MB vram (G) but some AMD/ATI RV635 M86 HD 3650}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with realtek alc888 codec ICH8}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5787M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945ABG 4965 or Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro-->Deadwood test iso 2023-01 2023-11 || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit boot with 'noacpi' or 'noioapic' - 15.4in 1280 x 800 pixels 16:10 - BMW Designworks ‘Gemstone’ design - over 3.0kg with options for 8-cell or 6-cell batteries - 2 SODIMM DDR2 667MT/s max 4GB - synaptics touchpad - |- | <!--Name-->Acer A0521 Ao721 || Athlon II Neo K125 + AMD M880G || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{maybe|ATI Radeon HD 4225 (VESA only)}} || {{No|Conexant}} || {{Maybe}}|| {{no|AR8152 l1c}} || {{no|AR9285 ath9k}} || AspireOS 1.7 || 2006 64bit possible |- | <!--Name--> Extensa 5630Z || <!--Chipset-->T6600 with Intel GL40 Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Yes|Intel GMA 4500M HD (2D)}} || <!--Audio--> {{Yes|HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> {{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet--> {{No|Broadcom BCM 5764M}} || <!--Wireless--> {{No|RaLink RT2860}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit |- |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 5250 series 5253 BZ400 BZ602 || <!--Chipset-->E350 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{no|VESA 2D for AMD HD6310}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDaudio for codec Conexant CX20584}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8151}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros 9k AR5B97}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire V5 V5-121 V5121 AO725 One 725 || <!--Chipset-->AMD C-70 C70 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{no|VESA for AMD 6290G}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|Realtek ALC269 codec}} || <!--USB-->2 x USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire V5-122P MS2377 || <!--Chipset-->C-70 C70 with M55, AMD A4-1250 or A6 1450 up to 1.4Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->AMD 8210 || <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec || <!--USB-->FCH USB EHCI OHCI || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169 but LAN/VGA Combo Port Cable (AK.LAVGCA 001) or MiniCP port to Acer Converter Cable (Mini CP to VGA/LAN/USB) (NP.OTH11 00C) needed}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros 9k AR9565}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aros One || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit but no sse4 or avx - 26w battery internal, extension possible - 11.6in 1366 x 768 ips touchscreen - 7mm hd ssd - 2gb ddr3l soldered with 1 slot free max 4GB - bios hacking needed for virtualisation - |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell EasyNote TE69 TE69KB 522 || <!--Chipset-->slow E1-2500, E2-3800 2c2t Dual or A4-5000 4c4t Quad both soldered BGA769 (FT3) on Hudson-2 FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Use IDE mode}} setting AHCI to IDE mode - boots if UEFI set to Legacy || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for ATI Radeon 8120 8240, 8320, 8330 or 8280 islands}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AMD Azalia HD Audio with ALC282 0x10ec0282 codec but not HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|Bios, Boot, set Boot mode to Legacy, nothing from USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8171 AR8175 or Broadcom BCM57780}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9565 0x1969 0x10a1}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aspire OS Xenon and AROS One 1.6 usb || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit with sse4.1 and AVX - 15.6in washed out screen big netbook - Boots with noacpi after using F2 to enter EFI firmware and f12 boot device - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots max 16Gb - |- | <!--Name-->ASPIRE Acer Aspire ES1-520 521 522 Series N15C4 ES1-523 || <!--Chipset-->AMD AMD E1-7010, A8-7410 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA for RADEON R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|Realtek ALC 233 or CX20752 HD AUDIO CODEC}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8151 Gigabit or Broadcom 590x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek RTL8187 or 8812BU}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aros One || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit with sse4.1 and AVX - 2 ddr3l slots - keyboard connected to top case - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 3, 5 A515-44-R0ZN || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 4500u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in or 15.6" 1080p - 19v round charging - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr0tC3QJWxk repair], 4gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Swift 3 SF314-43, Swift SF315-41 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 7 5700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 1080p - small round ac or usb-c - |- | <!--Name-->Swift 3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Asus==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Asus L8400-K Medion MD9467 || <!--Chipset-->Intel desktop 850MHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->S3 Savage MX || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS allegro 1988}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Asus L2000 L2400 L2D Series Medion 9675 || <!--Chipset-->Athlon 4 mobile || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use vesa sis630 || <!--Audio-->{{No|sis7018}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->sis900 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->x51R X51RL || <!--Chipset-->Duo T2250 T2330 with RS480 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|boots and detects}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL-8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR5006EG AR5111 ath5k AzureWave AW-GE780 - could be ATI Chipset}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2, deadwood 2021, || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit 15.4 WXGA - 19v barrel - ESC boot select - F2 bios - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Asus R2H Ultra Mobile PC UMPC || <!--Chipset-->Celeron 900Mhz 910GML || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA900 || <!--Audio-->Ac97 ALC880 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8169 8101e || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm4fOrqyj3g boots] |- | <!--Name-->Asus A3 series A3F Ergo Ensis 211 RM || <!--Chipset-->P-M 1.6GHz to Core Duo with 950 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945 || <!--Audio-->Ac97 ALC655 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8100CL 10/100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit only |- | <!--Name-->Z33 || <!--Chipset-->915 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->915GM || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC880 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 2915ABG || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit Z33A Z33AE N5M N5A |- | Z70A Z70V Z70Va M6A z7000 z7000a || i915 + ICH6 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|mobile 915GML}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|ICH6 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Marvell 88E8001}} || {{no|Intel PRO 2200BG Fn / F2}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2005 32bit |- | [http://www.progweb.com/en/2010/09/linux-sur-un-portable-asus-a6jm/ A6jm] A6JC || 945GM || IDE || SATA || {{yes|nVidia GeForce Go 7600 G70}} || {{no|HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|RTL8111 8168B}} || {{no|Intel 3945 ABG}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2006 32bit only |- | <!--Name-->F3Jc || <!--Chipset-->945PM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->G72M Quadro NVS 110M, GeForce Go 7300 || <!--Audio-->D audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8169 8111 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->X50GL F5GL || <!--Chipset-->T5800 with 965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA 2d - Nvidia 8200M G84 runs hot}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio MCP79 with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|MCP79}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR5B91 AW-NE77}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2 || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit not much support no display with nouveau - 19v barrel - ddr2 max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS G50 & G51 series G50V G50Vt G51V G51VX G51J G51Jx G50VT X1 X5 ROG || <!--Chipset-->AMD64 with MCP71 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} || <!--Gfx-->nVidia GeForce 9800M GS (G94M) up to GT200 [GeForce GTX 260M] (G92M) || <!--Audio-->Nvidia HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros L1C atl1c}} || <!--Wireless-->Atheros G or Intel || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit not all GPUs are failing but a much higher % failing early, 8x00 and 9x00 G84, G86, G92, G94, and G96 series chips dying - ddr2 max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->M50V M50 series || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core 2 Duo P8400 or T9400 with Intel PM45 ICH9 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|BIOS set to compatibility IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GS or 9650M GT || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC663 || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 realtek 8169 8111C}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 5100 or Atheros AR928X}}|| <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.0 USB || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit - 15.40 inch 16:10, 1680 x 1050 glossy - the "Infusion" design - heavy 3kg - ddr2 ram max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->Series F9 F9E F9dc F9f F9j F9s || <!--Chipset-->965GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Vesa}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio ALC660 playback}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|works}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|intel 3495 not working}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.41 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit - ddr2 max 4gb - |- | P52F SO006X || i3-370M || IDE || SATA || {{yes|nVidia G92 [GeForce 9800 GT] (2D)}} || {{no|Intel HD Audio}} || {{yes|2 USB2.0}} || {{no|Atheros AR8121 AR8113 AR8114 (l1e)}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2010 64bit - ddr3 slot - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Asus * X53U MB Ver K53U or K52U Asus K53U MB Ver K53U * A53U XT2 X53B MB ver: K53BY (compal) || <!--Chipset-->Slow atom like speed E-350 (2011), E-450 (2011) on AMD M780G, much slower C-50 C50 (2012), C-60 C60 on the AMD A50M dark brown plastic build || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|Set IN Bios IDE MODE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA ATi 6310M, 6320M later 6250M or 6290M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with alc269 codec Altec Lansing® Speakers}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|3 x USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|rtl8169 with RTL8111 phy}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros half height ar9285 cannot swap with ar5000 mini pci-e as smaller card required}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 and AROS One 1.6 USB || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6in 1368 x 768 dull 50% srgb screen - f2 bios setup, esc boot drive - 5200 or 7800 mAh battery covers ASUS K53S K53E X54C X53S K84L X53SV X54HR K53F X53U laptops - 2 DDR3L slots max 8Gb - 19v barrel 5.5 / 2.5 mm - |- | <!--Name-->Asus K53T, Asus A53Z X53Z || <!--Chipset-->AMD A4-3305M on AMD M780G, A6-3420M dark brown plastic build || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|Set IN Bios IDE MODE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD 6520G, 7670M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|3 x USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 with RTL8111 phy}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros half height}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6in 1368 x 768 dull 50% srgb screen - f2 bios setup, esc boot drive - 2 DDR3L slots max 8Gb - 19v barrel 5.5 / 2.5 mm - Altec Lansing® Speakers - |- | <!--Name-->X55U X401U X501U 1225B || <!--Chipset-->slow C-60 C60, C-70 C70 or E1 1200 E2 1800 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->6290G || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9485 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6" display - ram soldered - |- | <!--Name-->Asus A43TA A53TA K53TA XE2 A73T || <!--Chipset-->AMD A4-3300M, A6 3400M (laptop chip) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|Set IN Bios IDE MODE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA AMD Radeon HD 6520G Integrated + HD 6470M (1GB GDDR3)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - f2 bios setup, esc boot drive - |- | <!--Name-->X102BA || <!--Chipset-->Llano E1 1200 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|ide bios setting}} || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 8180 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 10.1” Touchscreen - special asus 45w ac adapter - |- | <!--Name-->K55N, K75DE || <!--Chipset-->AMD a6 4400M A8 4500M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD 7640G || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC codec none through ATi Trinity HDMI || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9485 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 17.3-inch - |- | <!--Name-->X452EA X552EA F552E || <!--Chipset-->AMD E1 2100 or A4 5000M A8 4500M A10 4600M with A || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for AMD ATI Sun XT Radeon HD 8330 8670A 8670M 8690M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AMD FCH Azalia rev 02 with ALC898 codec}} || <!--USB-->USB3 with USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{{Yes|Realtek RTL8111 8168 8411}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9485}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit may support avx kabini trinity - |- | <!--Name-->Asus X555Y - keyboard from Asus X555B X555D X555L X555S X555U X555Y X555LA fits? silver-colored plastic || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-7210 A8-7410 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk }} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for AMD R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->Realtek || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr3 slot - silver-colored plastic - internal battery - |- | <!--Name-->Asus X555D || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-8700P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for AMD R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr3 slot - silver-coloured plastic - internal battery - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS X555Q || <!--Chipset-->AMD® Bristol Ridge A10-9600P 7th Gen, A12-9720p || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->R5 + Radeon™ R6 M435DX Dual Graphics with VRAM GCN 3 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8821AE || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - FHD 15.6 1920x1080 - 37W battery internal - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr3 slot - internal battery - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M509ba || <!--Chipset-->AMD A9-9425 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->RADEON R5 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot max 16Gb - 19VDC 2.37A Max 45W 4.0mm x 1.35mm - keyboard swap problematic - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset-->AMD || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVme || <!--Gfx-->AMD || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS Vivibook M509DA X509DA M509DJ M509DL or M409DJ M409DA X409DA M409BA || <!--Chipset-->AMD® Ryzen™ 2c Athlon Silver 3050U 3200U, 4c AMD® Ryzen™ 5 3500U 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->{{No|nvme}} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for AMD Vega 5 8 or nvidia MX230 MX250}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS one || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14" or 15" transparent Silver Slate Grey - 4 or 8g soldered and 1 ddr4 sodimm slot max 8g - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ExpertBook P1410, ASUS ExpertBook P1 P1510CD || <!--Chipset-->3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit 14in or 15.6in - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ZenBook UM431DA, Vivobook X515DA M515DA, VivoBook X512DA M512DA, || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3500u 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVme || <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega 8 or 10 || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14" 1080p - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Zenbook 14 UM433, UM425IA, Vivobook M413DA || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 4500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in 1080p - asus round ac - |- | <!--Name-->Vivobook X513, Asus Vivobook 15 M513 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 5500U, 7 5700u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme and might have 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - round asus ac - |- | <!--Name-->Zenbook Flip 14 || <!--Chipset-->AMD R7 6800H || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 14inch 1080p - |- | <!--Name-->Vivobook Go 15 E1504FA || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 7320U, AMD Ryzen 5 7520U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio for codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No| USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ==== Dell ==== [[#top|...to the top]] Order of build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Studio Inspiron Vostro XPS Alienware Precision Latitude </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="10%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Latitude CP 233GT, CPi d233xt d266xt D300XT a366xt, CPt S400GT S500GT S550GT S600GT S700ST, CPt C333GT C400GT || <!--Chipset-->Neo Magic || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - Neo magic Magic Media 2160 2360 256ZX || <!--Audio-->{{No|crystal pnp 4237b or magic media 256zx sound nm2360}} || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit Low-Density 16-chip 144p 144-pin 32Mx64 3.3V SODIMM - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Latitude CPx H450GT H500GT H Series, CPt V433GT V466GT V600, Inspiron 5000 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 440BX with Pentium 3M (CPx) or Celeron (CPt) || <!--IDE-->{{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use Vesa - ATi Rage Pro Mobility M1}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1978 Maestro 2E Canyon 3D}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|1 slot 1.1 only}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Test Distro-->NB May 2013 || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit - 3 pin PA-6 PA6 power adapter plug - CDROM DVD Cxxx family media bay accessories untested |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C500 C600 (Quanta TM6) Inspiron 4000 7500, CPx J Series || <!--Chipset-->440BX ZX/DX || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|ATI Rage 128Pro Mobility M3 (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|ES1983S Maestro 3i}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 1.1 only}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A|some models had mini pci e100}}|| <!--Wireless-->{{N/A|a few came with internal antenna wiring}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->1999 square 3 pin charger PA9 PA-9 - C/Dock II untested - C/Port untested - Parallel to Floppy cable untested - CPx J600GT J650GT J700GT J750GT J800GT J850GT |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C510 C610 Insprion 4100 PP01L 2600 || <!--Chipset-->i830 and 1GHz+ P3-M || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|use VESA - ATI Radeon Mobility M6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 CS4205}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|3Com Etherlink}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|internal antenna wiring for an Atheros mini pci card}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2000 poor build quality - hard to find in good working order |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C400 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 830 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Intel 830 CGC}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ac97 Crystal 4205}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|3Com 3c905C TX/TX-M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2000 Slim for the time - no media bays |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C640 (Quanta TM8) C840 Inspiron 8k2 8200 i8200 precision m50 || <!--Chipset-->P4M with 845EP || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA if ATi - use nouveau if 64mb Nvidia Gforce 4 440 Go || <!--Audio-->AC97 CS4205 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->3com 905c || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 C640 had one fan so was noisy and hot - C840 had 2 fans and ran slightly cooler but fan noise louder |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | Latitude D400 || P-M 82845 || {{yes|82801 ide}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|VESA only}} || {{yes|AC97 Audio playback only}} || {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || {{maybe|PRO 100 VM (KM)}} || {{no|BCM4318 AirForce one 54g replace with atheros 5k mini pci}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit might boot from USB stick but won't boot from USB-DVD - no sd card slot - power plug style - |- | Latitude D500 / D505 PP10L, Inspiron 510m || 855GME * revA00 * revA03 * revA06 | {{yes|IDE but needs the Dell adapter}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|855GM Gfx (VESA only)}} || {{Yes|Intel AC97 with IDT STAC 9750 codec playback head phones only}} || {{maybe| }} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VE}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4306 but exchange with atheros g in panel on laptop bottom}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || 2003 - 14 / 15 inch XGA 4:3 screen - plastic build - no sd card slot - boots from bay optical drive - not powering on/off with ac adapter is a [http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=37&topicid=30585 mobo fault of PC13 SMT 1206 ceramic cap hot] suggest [http://www.die4laser.com/D505fix/ 0.1uF 50V instead] - pc2700 333Mhz ram 1Gb max - |- | Latitude D505 (some) || VIA VT8237 VX700 || {{yes|IDE}} || || {{partial|VESA 2d on ATI RV350 Radeon 9550}} || {{no|VIA AC97 with codec}} || {{maybe|VIA USB glitchy}} || {{yes|VIA VT6102 Rhine-II}} || {{no|Intel 2200g Calexico2}} || <!--Test Distro--> || 2003 32bit little support - diagnostics pressing holding the Fn key, press the Power ON button (battery removed). Check the LEDs pattern - cmos battery behind flap in laptop battery slot - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1000 || <!--Chipset-->SIS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use VESA SIS}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 SIS with AD1981B codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|SIS 900 but}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit [https://forum.level1techs.com/t/my-time-with-icaros-desktop-and-what-i-am-doing-as-a-dev-contributor-also-some-other-shit/113358 aremis using it] |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1100 PP07L || <!--Chipset-->845 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Intel 845G}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC'97 playback}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom 4401}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2004 |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 8500 5150 || <!--Chipset-->P4 855GM || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia 5200 Go - VESA if intel gfx}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|MCP AC97 with SigmaTel 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom 440x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4306 rev 02 use Atheros Mini PCI}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit P4 runs well but hot |- | Latitude X300 PP04S small, slim and light case || 855GME * revA00 Intel ULV 1.2 Ghz * revA01 Intel ULV 1.4Ghz | {{yes|IDE internal and will boot cd/dvd through dock PR04S}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|855GM Gfx (VESA only)}} || {{Yes|Intel AC97 with STAC 97xx codec but no audio out of the dock}} || {{maybe|works but dock usb ports and usb DVD PD01S not detected}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM5705M gigabit}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4306 later intel - replace with atheros in the underside}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1, AROS One 1.6 usb, || 2003 12.1" 1024 x 768 - 19.5v PA-10 or PA-12 dell - ACPI works but bad s3 ram suspend sleep - no sd card boot - 1Gb max sodimm ddr 2700 |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D600 (Quanta JM2) PP05L - 600m || <!--Chipset-->82855 PM i855 * reva00 * revA01 * revA02 * revA03 * revA04 | <!--IDE--> {{yes}} || <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA - ATI Radeon RV250 Mobility FireGL 9000}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 - STAC 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5705}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 2100 or Broadcom BCM4306 - swap for Atheros panel in base}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.3 and [http://www.amiga.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-62187.html 1.4.1 and 2.1.1] || <!--Opinion-->2003 32bit 14inch using pc2100 memory with Caps light blinking is usually a memory error - Dell D505 D600 power up pressing the case docking port - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D600 (Quanta JM2) || <!--Chipset-->82855 PM i855 || <!--IDE--> {{yes}} || <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D only vidia NV28 GeForce4 Ti 4200 Go 5200 Go 5650 Go}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 - STAC 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5705}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom BCM4306 mini pci - swap for Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.3 and [http://www.amiga.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-62187.html 1.4.1] || <!--Opinion-->2003 32bit 14" - solder joints on the bios chip (press down f7/f8 keys) - RAM clean with eraser - memory cover plate maybe apply some pressure - |- | <!--Name-->D800 (Compal LA-1901) || <!--Chipset-->Intel 855 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom 570x || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom 4309 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - trackpoint type pointing device - |- | <!--Name-->D800 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 855 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{No|Nvidia }} || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom 570x || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom 4309 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit 15inch 39cm |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1200 2200 PP10S Latitude 110L m350 1.3Ghz || <!--Chipset-->Intel 915GM || <!--IDE--> {{yes|UDMA boots cd or DVD and installs to HDisk}} || <!--SATA--> {{N/A}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA900 (2D and 3D openGL 1.x) Gearbox 56}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 playback only}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Intel PRO 100 VE}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|BroadCom BCM4318 - swap for Atheros mini PCI in base panel}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.5 || <!--Comments-->2005 single core 32bit 14" 4:3 1024 768 XGA screen - heavy 6 lbs - PA16 barrel 19V 3.16A AC adapter - battery life 4cell 29WHr lasts 2 hours - 256mb soldered with 1 ddr pc2100 sodimm 1gb max - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1300 business B130 home PP21L Latitude 120L B120 by Compal - Inspiron 630m || <!--Chipset-->Intel Celeron M360 1.4GHz, M370 1.50 GHz, M380 1.73GHz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes|boots cd or DVD and installs to HDisk}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 915 2D and 3D openGL 1.x tunnel 172 gearbox 70}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio playback ear phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|works but waiting boot fail with AROS One usb version}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom 440x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|intel 2200 or BCM4318 swap for Atheros mini pci underside - one antenna lead for main wifi}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2, AROS One 1.6 usb, || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit single core - 14.1″ XGA 4:3 or 15.4" WXGA wide 1280 x 800 matte - ddr2 sodimm ram 2gb max - PA-16 19v psu tip 7.4mm * 5mm - f10 boot select f1 f2 bios |- | Latitude X1 PP05S || PP-M GMA915 rev A00 1.1GHz non-pae || {{yes|ide 1.8in zif/ce under keyboard}} || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|Vesa for Intel 915GM}} || {{yes|AC97 6.6 playback only with STAC codec}} || {{maybe|USB 2.0 but partial boot to blank screen}} || {{No|Broadcom 5751}} || {{no|Intel 2200BG - swap for Atheros mini pci under keyboard palm rest - disassembly of all laptop}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 dvd iso image virtualbox'd onto usb, Aros One 1.5 and 1.8 usb (2022) || 2005 32bit 12.1" 4:3 1024 x 768 - sd slot not bootable - 256mb soldered to board and 1 sodimm max 1GB ddr2 under keyboard - F12 bios boot F2 - pa-17 pa17 19v octagonal psu port |- | Latitude D410 PP06S *rev A00 *A01, A02 *A03 || GMA915 1.6GHz Pentium® M 730, 1.7GHz, 750 1.86GHz & 760 2.0GHz, 770 2.13GHz || {{yes|caddy and adapter needed 2.5" - remove hdd and write}} || {{N/A}} || {{Yes|Intel 915GM 2D and 3D OpenGL 1.3 tunnel 170 and gearbox 75}} || {{yes|AC97 playback only with STAC 9751 codec}} || {{maybe|works but will not boot from USB-DVD or AROS One 1.5 usb version}} || {{No|Broadcom 5751}} || {{no|Intel 2915ABG or later 2200BG - swap for Atheros mini pci under keyboard}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4, 2.1.1 and AROS One 1.5 usb, || 2005 32bit 12.1" 4:3 1024 x 768 - no sd card slot - PR06S dock base |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D510 (Quanta DM1) || <!--Chipset-->915GM socket 479 || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 915 2D and 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 STAC 975x}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG swap Atheros mini pci in base}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 14.1" 32bit single core Intel Celeron M 1.6GHz Pentium M 730 1.73Ghz - squarish 3:2 - issues with 3rd party battery 4 quick flashes of red led with 1 final green |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D610 (Quanta JM5B) PP11L || <!--Chipset-->910GML 915GM with mobile 1.6 to 2.26ghz * Rev A0x * Rev A0x * Rev A07 1.73Ghz | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 915 2D and 3D tunnel 174 gearbox 74}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 speaker head phones playback only with stac codec}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 2200BG or Broadcom mini pci under keyboard, swap wifi card for atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 14" 1024 x 768 - very noisy clicky trackpad buttons - one dimm slot under keyboard and other in underside 2GB 533Mhz 667Mhz DDR2 max - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D610 (Quanta JM5B) 0C4717 REV A05, 0K3879 REV.A00 || <!--Chipset-->915GM || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA 2d - Ati X300 no radeon 2d}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG mini pci use Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 14" 1024 x 768 - very noisy clicky trackpad buttons - 19.5v psu |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D810 (Quanta ) || <!--Chipset-->915GM || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA 2d - Ati X300 RV370 M22 later x600}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 stereo playback only idt 9751 codec}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0 but no boot from usb on 1.5}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG mini pci replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1, aros one 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 15.4" F12 one time boot menu - 19.5v 90w psu ideal - battery not same as later dx20 ones - |- | <!--Name-->Studio XPS M1210 || <!--Chipset-->GM945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->nVidia G72M 7300 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92xx || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401 B0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4311 - swap for Atheros 5k mini pci-e}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Inspirion E1705 9200 9300 9400 || <!--Chipset-->945GM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia 6800, ati X300 or nVidia 7900GS gpu 3d corrupt || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 swap with Atheros 5k mini pcie || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->[http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=6481 increasing vertical lines issues] |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1501 PP23LA Latitude 131L || <!--Chipset-->AMD on ATI RS480 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA 2d - ATI 1150 (x300) RS482M Mobility Radeon Xpress 200}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with stac 92xx codec}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom bcm 4401}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bcm4311 replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit 15.4 inch Matt 16:10, 1280x800 pixel, WXGA TFT Display - first Dell AMD machine - Sempron 1.8GHz Turion MK-36 or X2 1.6Ghz TL-50 or TL-56 |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 6000 6400, E1505 PP20L, 9300, 9200 PP14L *A00 Pentium M *A0? Core Duo || <!--Chipset-->GM945 with PM 1.73Ghz, T2050 or T2060 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|vesa 2d - Ati 9700, x1300 RV515 M52, x1400 or nvidia go 7300 on mxm board}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio IDT 9200}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|usb boot }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom BCM4401 B0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200 3945 - swap for Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1, AROS One 1.6 || <!--Comments-->2006 mostly 32bit but - 15.4 inch glossy - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots - broadcom bcm92045 bluetooth detected but no support - 19.5v dell psu socket - f2 bios setup, f12 boot order - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 6400 (Quanta FM1) *A00 Pentium M *A0? Core Duo *A08 Core2 Duo || <!--Chipset-->GM945 with BGA479 (socket M) T2050 1.6Ghz, T2060 1.60Ghz, T2080 1.73Ghz much later T5500 1.66Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 2D and 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with IDT 92xx codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom BCM4401 B0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4311 swap for Atheros 5k mini pci-e under keyboard}} || <!--Test Distro-->deadwood 2019-04-16 iso || <!--Comments-->2006 mostly 32bit - 15.4" glossy - sd card - front multimedia keys - dvd rw - generic dell keyboard - coin cr2032 bios battery under keyboard - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 640m PP19L XPS M140 e1405 || <!--Chipset-->Core Solo T2050, T2300 Duo 1.83GHz T2400 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM4401-B0 100Base || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 or Broadcom 43xx, swap for Atheros 5k - Wireless Internet ON or OFF press the Function key + F2}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32 bit - 12.1 LCD CCFL WXGA 1280x800 up to 14.1 inch 16:10 1440x900 pixel, WXGA+ UltraSharp - supports also SSE3 on duos - |- | <!--Name-->Precision M65 M90 XPS M1710 || <!--Chipset-->945PM with T2600 T2700 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->nVidia Quadro FX 350M 1600M 1500M G71 on par with the Go7900 GS to GTX 7950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with STAC 92XX codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5752 || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom BCM4311 BCM4328 swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 17" workstation type WXGA+ screen manufactured by AU Optronics poor viewing angles, unevenly lit, light leakage |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D420 (Compal LA-3071P) PP09S || <!--Chipset-->945 * revA00 Solo 1.2Ghz ULV U1400 * revA01 Duo 1.06Ghz u2500 * revA02 Duo 1.2Ghz | <!--IDE-->{{yes|ZIF/CE 1.8" slow under battery, ribbon cable}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA950 - 2D and 3D opengl tunnel 138 gearbox 103}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with STAC 92xx playback speakers head phones only)}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|2 and external usb optical drive works}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 mini pcie - swap Atheros 5k in base panel}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros Desktop 1.4 || <!--Opinion-->2006 32bit only - 12.1" 1280x800 - PR09S dock base rev02 DVD-RW usb boots - 1GB DDR2 2Rx16 max in base panel - f2 setup f5 diagnostics f12 boot list - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D520 PP17L || <!--Chipset--> * 64bit rev A01, A02 945GM Core2 Duo 1.83Ghz to 2.3Ghz * 32bit rev A00, A01 940GML Solo later Duo T2400 | <!--IDE-->{{yes|DVD-ROM Rev00 Philips SDR089 - CDRW/DVDROM Philips CDD5263 or TEAC DW224EV - DVD+-RW Rev00 Optiarc AD-5540A or HL-DL-ST GSAT21N, rev01 TSSTcorp TS-L632D}} || {{Yes|bios sata set to ide mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 900 series 2D and OpenGL1 3D tunnel 210 gearbox 153 teapot 27}} || {{Yes|HD audio with STAC 9200 codec}} || {{Yes|Boots and detects USB2.0}} || {{Yes|Broadcom 4400}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4312 BCM4321 Dell 1390 / 1490 mini pcie - easy to replace with atheros 5k in base panel}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4 and 2.2 and AROS One usb 1.8 and grub boot add 'noacpi' || 2006 mostly 64bit 4:3 aspect ratio 14.1 (XGA 1024x768) or later 15 inches (XGA+ 1400 by 1050) - F2 enter bios F12 choose boot - 19.5v dell tip pa-12 charger - bios coin cell cr2032 battery socketed in base panel - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D620 (Compal LA-2792) PP18L || <!--Chipset-->945GMS * rev A00 all Core Duo's 32 bit * rev A0x all Core 2 Duo's 64 bit | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 950 (2D and 3D tunnel gearbox opengl1 || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio playback}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 3945 mini pcie swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->AspireOS Xenon || <!--Opinion-->2006 64bit AROS capable with later revisions - 14" 1280 x 800 |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D620 || <!--Chipset-->Intel i945 * revA00 all Core Duo's 32 bit * revA01 all Core 2 Duo's 64 bit | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia 7300, 7600 NVS 110M G72 || <!--Audio-->{{dunno|HD Audio with STAC 9200 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless--> {{dunno}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2007 1440x900 screen - LA-2792P Rev.2.0 - DT785 UC218 Fan/ Heatsink (64bit) - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D820 (Quanta JM6) || <!--Chipset-->945GMS 940GML * rev A00 * rev A01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 2D and 3D tunnel 195 - 100? gearbox 156}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with STAC 9200 playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|BCM4310 replace with mini pcie atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Opinion-->2007 widescreen 15 inch 1280 x 800 matte - - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D820 (Quanta JM) || <!--Chipset-->945GMS 940GML * revA00 * revA01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Nvidia NVS 110M 120M G72}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio STAC 9200}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|BCM4310 swap with Atheros 5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2007 64bit 15.4 1650x1050 WXGA or WSXGA+ or 1920x1200 WUXGA - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Latitude D531 15" || <!--Chipset-->AMD Turion X2 TL56 or TL60 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA - ATi xpress X1270}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with IDT codec || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 57xx}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 or Dell Wireless 1390, 1505 or BCM4311 mini pcie || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit possible - no trackpoint - fails and goes wrong often - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D430 PP09S || <!--Chipset-->945 with Core2 Duo C2D U7500 1.06GHz U7600 1.2GHz U7700 1.33GHz * rev A00 * rev A01 * rev A02 | <!--IDE-->ZIF PATA IDE 1.8inch under battery and ribbon cable - slow use USB instead || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|945GML 2D and 3D opengl 1.x 171 tunnel 105 gearbox}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|STAC 92xx HD Audio speaker and ear phone - mono speaker}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|3 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 4965 AGN or 3945 ABG mini pci-e underside with Atheros 5k mini pci-e}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aspire 1.8 || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit capable - sd card not supported - 19.5v PA12 power adapter - 12.1" 1280x800 matte - f2 setup f5 diagnostics f12 boot list - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D530 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 + ICH8 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|nVidia Quadro NVS 135M 2D 3d glitches G86}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.5 || <!--Comments-->2007 [http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=6481 ] cool air intake from underneath needed with pa-10 or pa-3e 90w psu required - standard 4:3 ratio aspect screen - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D630 (Compal LA-3301P) PP18L || <!--Chipset-->GM965 + ICH8 T7250 2.0Ghz T7300 * revA00 * revA01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA X3100 (2D only, no external monitor)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio STAC 9205 but speaker and head phones}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB 2.0}}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom BCM4312 swap with pci-e Atheros 5k under keyboard}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit possible - F12 to choose boot option - 2 ddr2 sodimm max 4G - 4400mah 48Wh battery lasts 2 hours - 6600mah 73Wh lasts just over 3 hours |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D630 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 + ICH8 * revA00 [http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=6481 ] GPU heatpad, no copper * revA01 0DT785 heatsink | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|use VESA as nVidia NVS 135M 3d corrupts 0.7 tunnel 0.25 gearbox G86}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG swap with Atheros 5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.5 || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D830 || <!--Chipset-->965GM with Core2 * revA00 * revA01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GM965 crestline 2d and 3d tunnel 115}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|replace with Atheros 5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros || <!--Comments-->2007 15 inch 1280 x 900 but updating the LCD to WXGA or WSXGA+ could be better - 2 ddr2 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D830 || <!--Chipset-->ICH8, Core2 DUO T7800 @ 2.60GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Intel ICH8M Serial ATA || <!--Gfx-->nVidia Quadro NVS 140M G86 || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with STAC 92XX codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit || <!--Wireless-->Intel Wireless 4965AGN swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.03 || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit 15." - FN,F2 or FN,F8 or FN,F12 |- | <!--Name-->XPS M1330 M1530 M1730 - WISTRON Hawke || <!--Chipset-->965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{No|Intel 965 with either Nvidia 8400M 8600M 8700M or 8800GT G84 G86}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio STAC 9228 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom or Marvell 88E8040 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro-->ICAROS 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit Did not boot |- | <!--Name-->Precision M2300 M4300 M6300 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|use VESA nVidia Quadro FX 360M (8400GS) 3600M 3500M 2500M G86 to G92}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG 4965 swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2007 14" 15.6" 17" |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 1310 1510 (Compal LA-4592P) 1710 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo T7600 or Celeron 540 GMA965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GM965 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC268 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 4965 swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit Celeron 540 added 64 bit support (doubling transistor count) |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 1320 1520 (Compal LA-4592P) 1720 (Compal LA-4671P) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 965 || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC268 or IDT 92HD8X codec || <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4312 or Dell Wireless 1397}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 up to 17 inch with 13.3 inch WXGA Anti-Glare matt or glossy LED Display (1280 x 800) - |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 1320 1520 (Compal LA-4592P) 1720 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvdia 9300m to 9600M GS G96 || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC268 or IDT 92HD8X codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4312 swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 15.4” screen Vostro 1520 with excessive heat buildup on the left hand side palm rest |- | <!--Name-->Precision M2400 M4400 M6400 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA 2d for nVidia Quadro FX 770M G86}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2008 14" 15.6" 17" |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1525 PP29L || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo or Core2 Duo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT codec || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4312}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 32bit much later 64bit 15.4" 1200 x 800 - 19.5v dell psu - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1545 PP41L || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 4500MHD || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HD71B codec || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8040}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4312}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 15.6" |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E4200 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo U9400 U9300 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->64gig ssd with ribbon cable || <!--Gfx-->Intel GM45 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HD 71B7X codec || <!--USB--> NEC uPD720202 || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82567LM}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4322 or Intel’s 5100 or 5300}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64 - 12.1in 1,280 x 800 poor color accuracy magnesium alloy body - easily replaced keyboard - 1 ddr3 sodimm slot - Microdia cam - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E5400 E5500 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio but no sound}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM5761e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E4300 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core 2 Duo P9400 2.4GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 4500 MHD || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HDxxx || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82567LM || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel PRO Wireless 5300 AGN}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit - 13.3" WXGA - sd card Broadcom BCM5880 - |- | <!--Name-->Lattitude E6400 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo P9500 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel GMA 4500M HD 2D with NVIDIA QUADRO NVS 160M G98}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD with IDT 92HD71 codec or later 92HDM61}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom BCM4312 or Intel 5300 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 early ones problems with the keyboard ribbon cable connector, trackpoints were not good |- | <!--Name-->Latittude E4310 E5410 ATG || <!--Chipset-->Intel 5 series Intel Core i5 560M 1st gen || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA HD 5700 mhd || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with IDT 92HDxx Codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82577LM || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4313 too small 30x30 to swap}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64Bit clarkdale codename CPUs - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E6410 E6510 E6310 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core i7 620M i7 820QM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|NVidia NVS 3100M GT218 2D but 3D through external monitor}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio IDT 92HD81}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom or Intel 6200AGN or Link 6300}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3 || <!--Comments-->2010 64 bit |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron M5030 || <!--Chipset-->rev A01 AMD V120, V140 rev A0? V160 M880G || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA RS880M Radeon HD 4225, 4250}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with ALC269q codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8152 v2}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - DDR3 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1546 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 4330M 530v || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 91HD81 codec || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8103EL-GR || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - 15.6" - alps touchpad - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->XPS 15 15Z L501X L502X 17 17Z L701X L702X || <!--Chipset-->i7 840QM to i7 2630QM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel HD 3000 with Nvidia 555, 525M, 540M, 555M or 435M 420M GF108M optimus || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111e || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit first models not Sandybridge but later are - 17.3-inch 1600 × 900 to 15.6-inch - not many working now |- | <!--Name-->E6420 E6520 ATG semi ruggized XFR || <!--Chipset-->sandy bridge i5 2520M 2540M or duo I7 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->set to Bios UEFI mode AHCI || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel HD 3000 with optional fermi Nvidia NVS 4200M GF119}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with IDT 92HD90 BXX codec but not HDMI codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6205}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.03 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit 15.6in - fan exhausts a lot of hot air when cpu taxed - VGA if Bios ATA set and Vesa only with Bios ACHI set - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron M5040 || <!--Chipset-->slow amd E450, later C-50 C50 or C-60 C60 with A50M chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->non efi sata in IDE mode but base plastic difficult to remove for access || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA AMD Radeon 6320, 6250 or 6290}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio IDT}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8105E VB 10/100}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros AR9285 no space for swap}} || <!--Test Distro-->icaros 2.1.1 and AROS USB 1.6 || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit 15INCH 1388 X 768 - f2 bios setup, f12 boot order - under removable keyboard via 4 top spring loaded catches is 1 ddr3l sodimm max 8gb and wifi - |- | Latitude e6230 E6330 E6430 || i3 3320M 3350M 2.8 GHz i5 3360M i7 3520M || {{N/A}} || {{partial|non RAID mode}} || {{partial|Intel HD 4000 (VESA only)}} || {{no|HD Audio}} || {{partial|Intel USB 3.0 (USB 1.1 2.0 only)}} || {{No|Intel 82579LM Gigabit}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313}} || <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2014 09-27 || 2013 64bit Ivy Bridge - 12.5-inch 13.3-inch 14-inch screen - not great support, better under hosted - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 15 3521 5521 5721, Vostro 3555 || <!--Chipset-->i5 i7 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel HD 4000 or Radeon 8730M or 7670M || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC850 ?? || <!--USB-->USB 3.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E RTL8105E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros or Dell 1703 1704 1705}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.3 || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit AVX Panther Point Ivy Bridge Intel(R) 7 Series Mobile - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 15‑3541 15‑3542 P40F001 P40F002 || <!--Chipset-->AMD E1 2100 6010 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Partial|VESA 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{unk| }} || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit no AVX - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Inspiron 15 5565 5567 AMD versions || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9200u A9-9400 A12-9700P Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->Radeon R5 R8 GCN 3 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 1GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - there are i-intel versions - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Latitude 5495 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 2300U 2500U 2700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe and 2.5in || <!--Gfx-->Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek ALC3246 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14.0" FHD WVA 1080p (16:9) 220 nits or 14.0" HD (1366 x 768) - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 32gb - 19.5V 65W 90W - care needed with usbc charging - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 3505, Vostro 3515 || <!--Chipset-->athlon 300u, Ryzen 3250u (2c4t) 3450u 3500u 3700u (4c8t), Athlon Silver (2c2t) Gold (2c4t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for Vega 8, 10}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Realtek ALC3204, Cirrus Logic CS8409 (CS42L42 and SN005825)}} || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|RTL 8106E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8723DE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64-bit - 15.6inch - 2 ddr4 sodimm max 16G - avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 5485 2-in-1 || <!--Chipset-->athlon 300u, Ryzen 3250u (2c4t) 3450u 3500u 3700u (4c8t), Athlon Silver (2c2t) Gold (2c4t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for Vega 8, 10}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Realtek ALC3204}} || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8723DE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64-bit - 14inch - 2 ddr4 sodimm max 16G - avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Latitude 3500 3410 3510 5410 5510 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core i5 (8th Gen) 8265U, i5-10210U, CORE i5-10310U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{no|Intel UHD Graphics 620}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|Realtek ALC3204}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111H}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - Realtek LAN port for WD19/22 docks untested - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 5405 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 4500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->One M.2 2230/2280 nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek ALC3204 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14" 1080p - dell round ac - |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 5415, Inspiron 5515 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 5300U, Ryzen 5 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 14" or 15.6in - avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use or use dell round ac - replacing keyboard not easy - 1 ddr4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 3425, Vostro 3525, Vostro 5625 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 5425U, Ryzen 5 5625U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB4}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 14in 15.6" to 16" FHD 1080p - dell round ac or avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Inspiron 15 Model 3535, Inspiron 14 7435 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 7520U, AMD Ryzen 5 7530U, 7 7730U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{No| hdmi 1.4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with codec }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2024 64bit - 14.0" or 15.6" 1080p - dell round ac or usb-c charging - full sd card slot - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |} ====Fujitsu-Siemens==== [[#top|...to the top]] Order of build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Amilo Esprimo Lifebook </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu [http://www.labri.fr/perso/fleury/index.php?page=bug_transmeta FMV-Biblo Loox S73A (Japan P1100) LifeBook P1120 Biblo Loox T93C (Japan P2120) P2020] || <!--Chipset-->Transmeta Crusoe CPU TM5600 633MHz with Ali M1535 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->ATI Rage Mobility M with 4MB SDRAM || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 Ali M1535 + STAC9723 Codec}} || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 only || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1999 32bit 10" 1280 x 600 matte LCD - QuickPoint IV mouse - metal chassis with palm rest plastic - 15GB 2.5 inch drive and SR 8175 8X DVD-ROM drive - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook S7000 S7010 S7010D S2020 || <!--Chipset-->Pentium M 1.6 or 1.7GHz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - Intel 855}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|AC97 with STAC 9751T or 9767 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros, Broadcom or Intel 2200BG - FN,F10}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit 14.1 inch with minimal support |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook e8010 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Intel 855GM}} || <!--Audio-->AC97 STAC9767 or ALC203 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5705M}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3.1 || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit 15.1 inch |- | <!--Name-->Stylistic ST5000 ST5010 ST5011 ST5012 ST5020 ST5021 ST5022 || <!--Chipset-->1.0GHz P-M and later 1.1GHz on Intel 855GME || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 800 use VESA || <!--Audio-->Intel AC97 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5788 tg3 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200BG}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit charged via a proprietary port power connector 16V 3.75A with wacom serial pen interface - indoor Screen transmissive 10.1 and later 12.1 XGA TFT - |- | <!--Name-->Amilo Pro V2010 || <!--Chipset-->VIA CN400 PM880 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|S3 unichrome use VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|VIA AC97 VT8237 with codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Rhine 6102 6103 || <!--Wireless-->RaLink RT2500 || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit boot mount - unknown bootstrap error then crashes |- | <!--Name-->Amilo Li 1705 CN896 || <!--Chipset--> with VIA P4M900 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE}} || <!--Gfx-->ATi || <!--Audio-->{{No|VIA VT8237 HD Audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->VT82xx 62xx || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|VIA Rhine}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros G}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit random freezes |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> Esprimo Mobile V5535 Skt mPGA 478MN | <!--Chipset--> | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE and EIDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{maybe|IDE mode with SIS 5513}} | <!--Gfx--> {{maybe|SiS 771 / 671 (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|HD Audio SIS968 SIS966 SI7012 with ALC268 codec}} | <!--USB--> {{no|USB 1.1 and 2.0 issues}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|SiS 191 gigabit}} | <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros AR5001 mini pci express}} | <!--Test Distro-->aros one 1.5 usb | <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 20v barrel - f2 setup f12 multi boot - random freezing short time after booting - chipset SIS 671MX - |- | <!--Name-->Amilo SI 1520 1521p || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio Conexant codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Intel Pro 100}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.2 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit - Set Bios option ATA Control Mode to Compatible |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook S7020 S7020D || <!--Chipset--> Pentium M 740 1.73MHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 915 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC260 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5751M Gigabit || <!--Wireless-->Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG or Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Stylistic ST5030 ST5031 ST5032 || <!--Chipset-->1 to 1.2GHx Pentium M with 915GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 900 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Marvell || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit charged via a proprietary port power connector 6.0 x 4.4 mm round - 200 pin ddr2 ram |- | <!--Name-->Stylistic ST5110 ST5111 ST5112 || <!--Chipset-->945GM with 1.2GHz Core Duo and Core2 Duo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 900 || <!--Audio-->HD audio with STAC9228 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 ABG or optional atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 either 32 or 64 bit - charged via a proprietary port power connector 6.0 x 4.4 mm round - SigmaTel® touchscreen - |- | <!--Name-->E8110 S7110 E8210 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|945GM}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC262 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8055 Gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit Core Duo |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || CHIPSET || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook PH521 || <!--Chipset-->AMD E-350 E-450 1.65GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->HD 6310M 6320M || <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC269 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 802.11 bgn}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6 inch 1366x768 pixels - DDR3 1066MHz - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====HP Compaq==== [[#top|...to the top]] Build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Presario Pavilion Omnibook ProBook Armada Elitebook </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->1c00 series Compaq Presario [http://users.utu.fi/sjsepp/linuxcompaqarmada100s.html Armada 100S made by Mitac], 1247 || <!--Chipset-->K6-II with PE133 MVP-4 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA - Trident Blade3D AGP sp16953 || <!--Audio-->VIA ac'97 audio [rev20] with AD1881A codec || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|usual VIA issues [rev10]}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit 192MB max - PCcard Texas PC1211 no support - 1200 XL1 1200-XL1xx, XL101, XL103 XL105 XL106 XL109 XL110 XL111 XL116 XL118 XL119 XL125 |- | <!--Name-->1c01 series Armada 110, Evo N150 || <!--Chipset-->Intel with VIA PLE133 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - Trident Cyber Blade i1 chipset || <!--Audio-->VIA 686 rev20 82xxx 686a || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82557 Pro 100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit max 192mb sodimm 100Mhz 133Mhz ram memory - 1200-XL405A 12XL405A XL502A 12XL502A 1600XL |- | Armada M300 M700 E500 || 440BX || {{Yes| }} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|ATI Rage LT M1 Mobility (VESA only)}} || {{no|AC97 ESS Maestro 2E M2E ES1987 sound}} || {{yes|USB1.1 only}} || {{No|[http://perho.org/stuff/m300/index_en.html Intel PRO 100+ Mini PCI]}} || {{N/A}} || Aspire OS 2012, Nightly 30-01 2013 and 04-05 2013 || 1999 32bit - F10 bios options and Fn+F11 reset CMOS with 64mb ram already on board |- | <!--Name-->HP Omnibook XE3 || <!--Chipset-->Intel BX 600Mhz GC model 256mb or AMD GD 500Mhz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - S3 Inc. 86C270 294 Savage IX-MV (rev 11) || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1988 Allegro 1 (rev 12)}} || <!--USB-->Intel 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit no cardbus pcmcia support - no audio from Polk Audio Speakers - |- | <!--Name-->HP Omnibook XE3 || <!--Chipset-->82830 ICH3 P3-M 750MHz 800Mhz 900MHz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - CGC 830MG}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1988 Maestro 3i}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|only one 1.1 port}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|e100 82557}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A|}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.51 || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit Boots USB Stick via Plop boot floppy - Memory for GF 256-512mb, GS up 1GB |- | <!--Name-->TC1000 TC-1000 Tablet PC || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA NV11 [GeForce2 Go] (rev b2) || <!--Audio-->VIA AC97 Audio (rev 50) || <!--USB-->OHCI NEC USB 2.0 (rev 02) || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82551 QM (rev 10) || <!--Wireless-->Atmel at76c506 802.11b || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit Transmeta LongRun (rev 03) with VT82C686 - Texas Instruments TI PCI1520 PC card Cardbus |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq R3000 ZV5000 (Compal LA-1851) || <!--Chipset-->Nvidia nForce 3 with AMD CPU || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia NV17 [GeForce4 420 Go 32M] || <!--Audio-->Nvidia || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom or Realtek RTL8139 || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4303 BCM4306 or Atheros bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - HPs have a setting to automatically disable wireless if a wired connection is detected |- | <!--Name-->Compaq [http://www.walterswebsite.us/drivers.htm Presario 700 series] || <!--Chipset-->VT8363 VT8365 [Apollo Pro KT133 KM133] || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VT8636A (S3 Savage TwisterK) (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|VIA AC97 [rev50] with AD1886 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|VIA UHCI USB 1.1 [rev1a]}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RealTek RTL8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom BCM4306}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit poor consumer grade level construction - jbl audio pro speakers - no support for cardbus pcmcia TI PCI1410 - 700A EA LA UK US Z 701AP EA BR FR 701Z 702US 703US AP JP audio sp18895 Sp19472 |- |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | N400c || P3-M 82845 || {{yes|82801 CAM IDE U100}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Rage Mobility 128 (VESA only)}} || {{No|Maestro 3 allegro 1}} || {{yes|USB1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VM (KM)}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit Has no optical disc drive |- | N410c || P3-M 82845 || {{yes|82801 CAM IDE U100}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Radeon Mobility M7 LW 7500 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|Intel AC97 with AD1886 codec}} || {{yes|USB1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VM (KM)}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit Has no optical disc drive |- | Evo N600c || Pentium 4 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI Radeon Mobility M7 (VESA only)}} || {{No|ESS ES1968 Maestro 2}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2003 32bit |- | Evo N610c || Pentium 4 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI Radeon Mobility M7 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|Intel ICH AC97 with AD1886 codec}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || |- | N800c || P4 || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit P4M CPU can get very warm |- | <!--Name-->NX7010 || <!--Chipset-->Intel || <!--IDE-->{{yes|IDE}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|ATI mobility 7500 or 9000 Radeon 9200 64MB (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 ADI codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|uhci (1.1) and ehci (2.0)}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200b bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Preasrio V5000 (Compal LA-2771) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Sempron 3000+ or Turion ML with SB400 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - Ati RS480M Xpress 200}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 ATI with Conexant CX 20468 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8100 8101L 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|bcm4318 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2004 64bit single core machine V5001 V5002 V5002EA V5003 |- | <!--Name-->TC1100 TC-1100 Tablet PC || <!--Chipset-->855PM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia Geforce4 Go || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|BCM 4400}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros wlan W400 W500 or ? bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit |- | <!--Name-->NC6000 NC8000 NW8000 || <!--Chipset-->855PM with Pentium M 1.5 1.6 1.8GHz 2.0GHz || <!--IDE-->max 160 GB for NW 8000 || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Ati RV350 mobility 9600 M10 Fire GL T2 ISV use VESA 2D as no laptop display}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel AC97 with ADI codec playback only}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|2 ports}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM 5705M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|mini pci Atheros 5212 BG W400 W500 or Intel - all bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 based [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=41916&forum=47 works] - Firewire TI TSB43AB22/A - 8 pound 2.5 kg travel weight - an SD slot as well as two PC Card slots - 15-inch UXGA screen (1,600 x 1,200) or 15" SXGA+ (1400 x 1050) (4:3 ratio) |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Compaq NC6110 NX6110 NC6120 NC6220 NC4200 NC8200 TC4200 || <!--Chipset-->GMA 915GML || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D GMA 900}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 with ADI AD1981B playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|440x or BCM 5705M or 5751M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel IPW 2200 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5.2 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit Sonoma based - Wifi with Atheros AR5007eg if apply hacked bios RISKY else use USB one - (INVENTEC ASPEN UMA MV) (INVENTEC ASPEN DIS PV) - |- | <!--Name-->Compaq C500 CTO aka HP G7000 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 945GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with realtek ALC262 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom BCM 4311 bios locked || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->HP DV6000 || <!--Chipset-->945GMS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HD 91B || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel PRO 100 VE || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32 bit only - Mosfet FDS6679 common cause of shorts giving no power to the tip. To reset adapter, unplug from AC (mains) and wait 15-30 sec. Then plug in again - |- | Presario F700 series, HP G6000 f730us F750 F750us F755US F756NR F765em || AMD Turion Mono MK-36 2.0Ghz NForce 560m or Twin X2 TK-55 with nForce 610m MCP67 || {{N/A| }} || {{Yes|but needs special sata adapt bit and caddy}} || {{Yes|GF Go 7000m 2D and 3D 640x350 to 1280x800 - ball solder issues due to poor cooling}} || {{Maybe| }} || {{Maybe|uhci and ehci boots}} || {{No|Nvidia }} || {{Yes|Atheros AR5007 bios locked}} || Icaros 1.3.1 and Aros One 1.6 USB || 2006 64bit - f9 boot device f10 bios setup - random freezes after a minutes use means internal ventilation maintenance needed each year essential - No sd card and overall limited phoenix bios options - |- | <!--Name-->Presario v6604au v6608au V3500 || <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA MCP67M with AMD Athlon64 X2 TK 55 amd 1.8ghz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|SATA 150}} || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA GeForce Go 7150M 630i or C67 630M MCP67 || <!--Audio-->conexant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia or Realtek 10/100 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4311 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit Altec Lansing Stereo Speakers - ball solder issues - |- | <!--Name-->Compaq presario v6610 v6615eo v6620us || <!--Chipset-->Turion 64 X2 mobile TK-55 / 1.8 GHz to athlon 64x2 @ 2.4ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|SATA 150}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|geforce 7150 or 7300m 2d and 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AMD HD Audio with IDT codec stereo playback only}} || <!--USB-->3 OHCI EHCI || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3 - || <!--Comments-->2007 [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=40956&forum=48 works well] - 1 x ExpressCard/54 - SD Card slot - AO4407 test voltage of the Drain side (pins 5-8) with AC adapter and no battery, see 0 volts, connect the battery you should have 10-14v - |- | <!--Name-->v6630em v6642em || <!--Chipset-->nForce 630M with AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-58 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA GeForce 6150M or 7150M || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit 15.4 in 1280 x 800 ( WXGA ) - |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq NC6400 || <!--Chipset-->945GM Core Duo || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|GMA 950 2D issues and no 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio AD1981HD}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros || <!--Comments-->2007 - replaced with Atheros AR5007eg if apply hacked bios RISKY else use USB g - * 32bit Core Duo T2400 * 64bit Core 2 Duo T5600 T7600 |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq NV NC6400 || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo + 945PM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Radeon x1300M (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with ADI1981 low volume}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|BCM 5753M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 ABG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.4.2 || <!--Opinion-->2007 Harmon Kardon speakers |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq NC6320 || <!--Chipset-->945GM with * 32bit Core Duo 1.83GHz T2400 * 64bit Core2 Duo 1.83GHz T5600 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 950 2D with a little 3D tunnel 213}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD Audio with AD1981HD codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM 5788}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2 || <!--Comments-->2007 replaced with Atheros AR5007eg if applying hacked wifi bios RISKY!! else use USB - 14.1" or 15 inch XGA 1024x768 - noisy cpu fan for core2 - trackpad rhs acts as window scroller - |- | <!--Name-->HP NC4400 TC4400 Tablet || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo with 82945 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|bios F.07 limits to 100GB 120GB}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|2D and 3D 282 tunnel and gearbox 150}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ADI 1981HD codec via ear phones}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM 5753M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 or BCM 4306 - Whitelist BIOS F.0C needed but risky}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->2008 64 bit possible with Core2 - TI SD card reader non bootable - wacom serial digitiser pen not working - * 32bit 1.86GHz core duo * 64bit 2Ghz T7200, 2.16Ghz Core 2 Duo T7600 2.33GHz |- | <!--Name-->HP Pavilion DV2000 CTO || <!--Chipset-->945GMS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950, X3100, Nvidia 8400M || <!--Audio-->HD Audio Conexant CX 20549 Venice || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia MCP51 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM 4311 or Intel 3945 4965 ABG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 Atheros AR5007eg if apply hacked bios RISKY |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Presario C700 || <!--Chipset-->GMA960 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->X3100 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139 || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros AR5007 AR5001 AR242x}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 |- | <!--Name-->Compaq 2510p 6510b 6710b 6910b || <!--Chipset-->GMA 965GM GL960 || <!--IDE-->{{yes| || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|X3100 some 2d but slow software 3d only}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio ADI AD1981 HD low volume on head phones}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82566 or Broadcom BCM 5787M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945ABG or 4965ABG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aspire OS Xenon 2014 || <!--Comments-->2008 no sd card boot support - F9 to choose boot option - [http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/7681-This-is-no-request-thread!-HP-COMPAQ-bioses-how-to-modify-the-bios/page111?p=333358#post333358 whitelist removal (risky) bios block for wifi card swap] |- | <!--Name-->CQ40 CQ41 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BC4310 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Presario CQ35 CQ36 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4312 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 Compal LA-4743P - |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq CQ42 CQ43 CQ45 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Coxenant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8191SE, Realtek 8188CE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 (Quanta AX1) |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Presario CQ50 CQ56 || <!--Chipset-->Nvidia MCP78S || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Geforce 8200M || <!--Audio-->nVidia HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->nvidia MCP77 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR928X bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 [http://donovan6000.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/insyde-bios-modding-wifi-and-wwan-whitelists.html bios modding risky] MCP72XE MCP72P MCP78U MCP78S |- | <!--Name-->HP Pavilion dv4 dv4z(AMD), dv5 (dv5z AMD), dv7 (dv7z AMD) || <!--Chipset-->QL-60, QL-62 (AMD Turion 64 X2) RM-70, RM-72, ZM-80, ZM-84, (AMD Turion II) M520 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->HD 3200 3450 4530 4550 4650 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit - 14.1" dv4, dv5 features a 15.4" and the HP Pavilion dv7 a 17" display |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->CQ57z || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD E-300 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA ATi HD 6310 wrestler}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101 RTL8102 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RaLink RT5390}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->HP CQ58z 103SA E5K15EA || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD Dual-Core E1-1500 APU with A68M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Radeon HD 7310}} || <!--Audio-->Realtek idt codec || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 10/100 BASE-T}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 39.6 cm (15.6") HD BrightView LED-backlit (1366 x 768) |- | <!--Name-->HP 635 DM1 || <!--Chipset-->Slow E-300, E-450 later E2-1800 on SB7x0 SB8x0 SB9x0 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->ATI non efi SATA AHCI - IDE mode || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA 2D - AMD HD6310, 6320 to HD7340}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ALC270A GR but not Wrestler HDMI Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 driver covers Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 14" 1366 x 768 - f9 f10 - external battery - 2 stacked ddr3l sodimm slots max 16Gb under one base plate - removable keyboard - |- | <!--Name-->HP G6 2000-2b10NR 2000-2d10SX 2000-2d80NR || <!--Chipset-->E1-2000 E2-3000M on A50M (soldered) A4-3305A on A60M (socket) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Radeon 6320, 6620G, 6520G, 6480G, 6380G}} || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 100 1000 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 39.6-cm (15.6-in) HD LED BrightView (1366×768) - 1 or 2 ddr3l max 8G - 19VDC 3.42A Max 65W Tip 7.4mm x 5.0mm - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 6465B || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-3310MX or A6-3410MX with A60M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD 6480G or 6520G}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|IDT 92HD81B1X}} || <!--USB--> USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel AC 6205 or broadcom 4313 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 13-inch or 14-inch runs hot - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 8470p 8570p || <!--Chipset-->Quad i7-3840QM to i7-3610QM, Dual i7-3520M to i5-3210M, Core i3-3130M to i3-2370M on Mobile Intel QM77 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|set the bios boot options to not fastboot and drive mode IDE rather than AHCI }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d for HD4000 with some having switchable Radeon M2000 or 7570M}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio for IDT codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82579LM }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel, Broadcom, Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro-->64 bit boots from CD* if safe mode 2 is used, although it is possible to remove the 'nodma' and 'debug' entries and boot || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit with SSE4.1 and AVX - 14in 1600 x 900 to 1366 x 768 - 2 DDR3L sodimm slots max 16Gb - TPM 1.2 - dual boot 32/64 bit is working fine - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 6475b, Probook 4445s 4545s, HP Pavilion 15-b115sa, [https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c04015674#AbT6 HP mt41 Mobile Thin Client PC] || <!--Chipset-->AMD A4 4300M, A6 4400M 4455M or A8 4500M with AMD A70M A76M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 7420 7520G 7640G 7660G}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with idt or realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek RTL8151FH-CG}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6205 or Broadcom BCM 43228 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6-inch - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 455 G1 F2P93UT#ABA, 645 G1, Envy 15-j151ea G7V80EA, Envy m6-1310sa (E4R01EA#ABU) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Quad A4-4300M A8-4500M A10-4600M A4-5150M A6-5350M 2.9Ghz A10-5750M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 7420G 7520G 7640G 7660G 8350G 8450G or 8550G, 8650G, 8750G }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio IDT 92HD91 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 14in and 15in 1366 x 768 - external battery - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - 19.5v / 4.62A psu runs hot - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 245 G4, 255 G1, 255 G2, 455 G2, 255 G3, 455 G3, 255 G4 80CB, 255 G5 82F6, 355 G2, HP Pavilion 15-p038na 15-g092sa 15-p091sa 15-G094S 15-p144na 15-p142na, 15-Af156sa || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD A4-5000 A6-5200, E2-6110, E1-6010 E2-2000, E1-2100 E2-3800, A4-6210 A6-6310 A8-6410, E2-7110, A6-7310 A8-7410 APU || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata some with cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R2 R4 R5}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC3201-GR || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8102E or Atheros 1GbE || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros AR9565}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit most have SSE4 AVX but E2-2000 does not - 15.6-inch (1366 x 768) - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - small 31Whr or 41Whr external battery covers 240 G4, 245 G4, 250 G4, 255 G4, 256 G4, 14G, 15G - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 645 g2, Probook 445 G2, Probook 245 G2 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-8600 A8-8700 a10- || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Radeon R5 R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel I219V 100/1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel or Qualcomm Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 14in and 15.6-inch HD (1366 x 768) or FHD 1080p - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots max 16GB - internal battery - hp ac psu tip - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 725 G2, 745 G2, 755 G2 || <!--Chipset-->Amd Quad A6-7050B A8-7150B 1.9GHz A10-7350B || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA on AMD R4 R5 Radeon R6 with DP and vga}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD audio with IDT 92HD91}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 PCIe GBE || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom or Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 12.5-inch, 14" or 15.6in (all 1366 x 768) - 19.5V 65w 45W AC adapter - internal pull up tab battery under base which slides off - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - keyboard swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->HP Probook 455 G3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-8700P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Radeon R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->1GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 725 G3, 745 G3, 755 G3, 725 G4, 745 G4, 755 G4, HP mt43 || <!--Chipset-->Amd A8-8600B, A10-8700B, A12-8800B to Quad A8 Pro 9600B to A10 9800 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA on AMD R5 R6 R7 with DP and vga but screen is low res, dull colours, and blurry}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD audio with IDT codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 5762 PCIe GBE}} || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8723BE-VB || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - 12.5-inch (1366 x 768) to 14" and 15.6in - 2 sodimm ddr3 - 19.5V 45W AC slim 4.5mm hp adapter - randomly shuts down and the noisy fans constantly on - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 645 G3, 655 G3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD 8th Gen A10-8730B, A8-9600B (4c4t) A6-8530B (2c2t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for AMD R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111HSH || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel or Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->HP Probook 455 G4, Probook 455 G5, || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-9600P APU, A9-9410, A6-9210 APU || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R4, R5 or R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 1GbE || <!--Wireless-->realtek or intel Wireless-AC 7265 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit 15.6in 1366 x 768 - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 645 G6, 255 G6, 255 G7 - 31Whr external battery covers HP all G6 and HP 14-BS, HP 14-BW, HP 15-BS || <!--Chipset-->AMD E2-9000e, A9-9420, 9220P, 9125 (all 2c) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata 2.5in and M.2, no cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for R2 R3 R4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RTL8188CTV, RTL8821CE or Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 3168}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - 19V 65W - DDR4 slot max 8Gb - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ProBook 245 g8 || <!--Chipset-->Range all dual cores - AMD A6-9225 APU, AMD A4-9125 APU, AMD PRO A6-8350B APU, AMD PRO A4-5350B APU || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R4 R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - many variants - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Pavilion 15z bw0xxx, 15-bw024na 15-ba506na, 15-bw060na 15-DB0521SA, HP Envy x360 15-ar052sa 2 in 1, || <!--Chipset-->AMD A9-9420 2c 2t, A10-9620p 4c4t 9700p 7th Gen Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R5 GCN 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 15.6in 768p or 1080p - internal battery - 19.5V 2.31A hp plug - 1 DDR4-1866 SDRAM sodimm slot - keyboard swap problematic - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteBook 725 G5, 735 G5, 745 G5, 755 G5, Probook 455 G6, 255 G7 7DE73EA || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 2200U 2300U (2c t), R5 2500U, R7 2700U (4c8t) Raven Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 Sata or NVMe and/or 2.5in sata if detachable ribbon cable present, no cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for AMD Vega 3, 6, or 8}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ALC236 0x10ec0236 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek or rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8821CE, 8822BE or Intel AC 8265 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - 12.5 to 15.6in up to 1080p - internal battery - 1 on smaller laptops or 2 ddr4 sodimm slots on larger laptops max 16Gb - usb-c charging care needed - keyboard swap problematic - esc bios setup f9 boot order - |- | <!--Name-->HP Envy x360 15-bq150sa, Envy x360 covertible 13 13-ag0xxx HP Envy x360 15-cp0xxx Ryzen 2500u || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 and Sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ?, ?, ALC295 0x10ec0295 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|realtek, none on 13in}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 13 or 15.6in 1080p - hp barrel or usb-c on 13in - ddr4 - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP 14-cm, 15-bw0, HP 15-db0043na, HP 15-db0996na, HP 15-db0997na, 17-ca0007na, 17-ca1, ProBook 645 G4 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 2200U (2c 4t) 2500U (4c 8t) with AMD Carrizo FCH 51 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 and 1 2.5in on some larger models || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R5 and later Vega 3 or 7}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Realtek ALC3227 and ATI HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|USB3 USB boot drive stuck on kitty's eyes}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RTL 8723DE 8821 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 USB || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit 2kg - screen is dim 14in, 15.6in or 17.3" 768p, later 1080p - 65W 19.5V ac adapter - internal 3-cell 41 Wh Li-ion battery does not last long - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - no DVD-Writer - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->[https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c06955717 ProBook 245 g8], Probook 445R G6, 455R G6, HP 255 G7 7DC73EA 2D200EA, HP14-dk0599sa, pavilion 15-cw1511na 15-cw1507sa || <!--Chipset-->Range mostly dual cores - AMD Athlon Gold 3150U (2c 2t), Silver 3050U APU (2c 2t), Pro 3145U APU to 3200U (2c 4t) and 3500U (4c 8t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 NVMe 2280 but usually no 2.5in mountings, no cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3, 6 or 8 with up to 2gb ram taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with realtek ALC236 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 but no usb-c}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE RTL8111HSH || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek 8822BE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in / 15.6in dim panel 768p or 1080p - one heatpipe for cpu - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 16gb - 65 W Smart AC adapter, right angle, 4.5 mm or usb-c - keyboard swap problematic - cd-rw dvd-rw - plastic build - |- | <!--Name-->Elitebook 735 G6 5VA23AV, Elitebook 745 G6, 255 g8 || <!--Chipset-->AMD® Ryzen™ 5-3500U Ryzen 3-3300U AMD Ryzen 3-3250U AMD Athlon® Gold 3150U AMD Athlon Silver 3050U AMD 3020e || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|m.2 2280 nvme in legacy - hp sure start and secure boot disabled but still issues with gpt installs}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Vega 8, 5 or 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 6.34 ahi with realtek codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 type-A port boots stick partially to kitty eyes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169 realtek RTL8111E or 8111H}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|realtek or intel}} || <!--Test Distro-->{{No|Icaros 2.3 onto USB and AROS One 1.8 and 2.0 USB}} || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 1366x768 to 1920x1080 - 2 3200MHz DDR4 sodimms - 19.5V 2.31A or 20V 2.25 45W 4.5X3.0MM hp - esc bios setup, f9 boot device select - low travel keyboard - poor battery life - plastic hooked base with retained screws - elan touchpad? - |- | <!--Name-->Envy x360 13 laptop 13-ay0008na and 13 and 15.6' 2 in 1 convertible || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R5 4500U with carrizo FCH51 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega 6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel or Realtek wifi 6 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit 13.3in or 15.6in IPS 1080p - ram soldered - touch pen not supplied - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 445 G7, 455 G7 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 4300U 5 4500U 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 sata and 1 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with realtek alc236 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl169 realtek rtl8111ep || <!--Wireless-->{{No|realtek RTL8822CE or intel AC 9260 or Wi-Fi 6 AX200}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14 inch 768p or 1080p - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - smart 45w 65w hp or usb-c charging avoid damage - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteBook 745 G7, 845 G7, HP 15-EH0006NA || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 4300U, 5 4500U, PRO 4650U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->SSD M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Radeon Vega 8}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - Bang & Olufsen speakers - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 255 G8, HP 245 G9 Laptop || <!--Chipset-->AMD RYZEN 3 5425U, 5 5500U 5625U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega 6 or 8 hdmi 1.4B}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 1GBe}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8822CE or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 14" to 15.6in 1366 x 768 to 1080p poor gamut - 45 or 65w hp psu - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 16GB - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteBook 645 g7, 835 G8, 845 g8, HP ENVY x360 13 15 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 5650U, 7 5800U, R7 Pro 5850U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD Radeon}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 1Gbe on 645 only}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 13.3" or 14" 1080p - poor screens low nits and srgb score - 845 gets hot ue to poor cooling - slim round hp ac - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP Dev One, HP ProBook 455 G8 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, R7 5850U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 15.6" 1080p - 2 internal sodimm slots - hp barrel charging - |- | <!--Name-->HP probook 635 Aero G8 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 5600U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2921 64bit - 14in 1080p - 2 ddr4 slots - ec chip nuvoton NPCX797HA1B - bios winbond 250256JYEN - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 845 g9 || <!--Chipset-->aMD 6000 series 6850u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 680m}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB4 thunderbolt type}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Qualcomm Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit aluminum case - 14in 1080p to 2140p 16:10 poor screen again - 2 internal ddr5 sodimm slots - usb-c ac charging avoid any knocks - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 445 G10, 455 G10 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 7530U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no| }} || <!--USB-->{{no| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6in - hp round ac - |- | <!--Name-->HP ZBook Firefly 14" G11 Mobile Workstation, G11 QHD DreamColour Mobile Workstation || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen™ 7 8840HS, AMD Ryzen™ 9 8945HS || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2024 64bit - 35.6 cm (14") diagonal, WUXGA (1920 x 1200), IPS, anti-glare, 400 nits, 100% sRGB - 2 ddr5 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->HP ZBook Ultra G1a || <!--Chipset-->AMD AI Max Pro 390 12 Core, 395 16 Core || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD GPU || <!--Audio-->HDaudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - 14" Touch OLED 120Hz - 2 ddr 5 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->HP Envy 16" x360 (16-ad0007na) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen™ 7 8840HS, || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - 16GB, Touchscreen - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====IBM/Lenovo==== [[#top|...to the top]] Build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > iSeries Edge Ideapad Thinkpad - good cases and construction but electronic internals same as anyone else </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad 390X 390E (2626) || <!--Chipset-->Neo Magic MM2200 with C400 P2-266 to P3 500MHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA || <!--Audio-->{{No|256AV or ESS Solo-1}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad 600x || <!--Chipset-->Intel 440BX || <!--IDE-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Neomagic NM2360 MagicMedia 256ZX}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Crystal CS4297A codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3.1 || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit a little support - earlier 600 and 600e were Pentium 2 based |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X20 (2662-32U) X21 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 440 BX ZX DX || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 with Cirrus Logic Crystal cs4281}} || <!--USB-->1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->no mini pci intel e100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit |- | Thinkpad T20 (2647) T21 (26) T22 || 440BX || {{Maybe| }} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|Savage IX-MV (VESA only)}} || {{no|Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/ 24/30}} || {{yes|USB 1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2002 32bit |- | <!--Name-->A21e (2628, 2655) A22e || <!--Chipset-->440MX || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Ati rage mobility || <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 Cs4299 CS4229}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->intel e100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 |- | Thinkpad T23 (2647) || i810 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|S3 Super Savage IX/C SDR (VESA only)}} || {{maybe|AC'97 CS4299}} || {{yes|USB 1.1}} || {{yes|Intel ICH3 PRO 100 VE}} || {{no|Realtek RTL8180L others with bios hacking risky}} || || 2003 32bit with some support |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X22 X23 X24 || <!--Chipset-->830 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATi Mobility M6 LY || <!--Audio-->Ac97 CS4299 || <!--USB-->2 x 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->Intel Pro 100 || <!--Wireless-->Actiontec Harris Semi Intersil Prism 2.5 (X23 and X24 only) || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit with slice Ultrabase X2 - |- | <!--Name-->A30 A30p || <!--Chipset-->830 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Ati Radeon M6 || <!--Audio-->AC97 CS 4299 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel Pro 100 ve || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->A31 A31p R31 R32 T30 || <!--Chipset-->830 || <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Gfx-->Ati Radeon 7500 or FireGL || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 Intel with AD1881A codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes| Intel Pro 100 ve}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->[https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Android-Ecosystem-Developers/AROS-An-operation-system-inside-Android/td-p/1441741 Icaros 1.5.2] || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit Also tested with Icaros 2.0.3. |- | Thinkpad X30 (2673) X31 (2884-xx2) X31t || i830 || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA only Radeon M6 Mobility}} || {{yes|AC97 - AD1981B codec}} || {{yes|USB 1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{no|Cisco Aironet or Intel 2915 but atheros with bios hacking}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2004 32bit sound bit distorted |- | <!--Name-->R50e R51 || <!--Chipset-->855M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel 855M use VESA}} || <!--Audio-->intel AC97 with AD1981B codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Intel 100 VE}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - |- | IBM Thinkpad T40 (2373) T41 T41p (2379) T42 T42p T43 T43p || Intel 8xx || {{partial|PIO}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI mobility 7500 9000 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97 playback}} || {{yes|uhci 1.1 and ehci 2.0}} || {{no|e1000}} || {{Maybe|Intel 2200bg bios locked but possible AR5BMB-44 AR5212 FRU 39T0081 mini PCI}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2004 32bit 16v IBM plug - Centrino Needs ATA=nodma option - issues with the inner chip of the SMT BGA graphics chip |- | Thinkpad X32 || i855 || {{yes|40, 60 or 80GB 2.5" PATA HDD}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA only ATI Mobility Radeon 7000 with 16MB}} || {{maybe| Intel AC'97 Audio with a AD1981B codec}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Intel 1000}} || {{no|Intel 2200 but atheros with bios hacking}} || Icaros 2.1 || 2004 32bit - 12.1" TFT display with 1024x768 resolution; 256 or 512MB PC2700 memory standard (2GB max) |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X40 X40t by Quanta || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel 800 (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel e1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel but most atheros with bios hacking - difficult though}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit last IBM design |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X41 (IBM) MT 1864 1865 2525 2526 2527 2528 x41t (Lenovo) MT 1866 1867 || <!--Chipset-->Intel with single core 1.5 1.6 and tablet 1.2GHz || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 915GML 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751M tg3}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel or MiniPCI Wi-Fi Atheros AR5BMB FRU 39T0081 but ordinary atheros 54meg needs risky bios hacking}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit - amongst first Lenovo design |- | <!--Name-->R52 (most 18xx) || <!--Chipset-->Intel 915 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 915GML 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->R52 1846, 1847, 1848, 1849, 1850, 1870 || <!--Chipset-->ATi 200m || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|ATI}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751M tg3}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad T60 T60P * 64bit - 6 or 8 is 16:10 on T60/p, eg. 8742-CTO 15.4" * 32bit - 1 and 2 are 14", 15" 4:3, like 2007-YM3 or 1952-CTO || <!--Chipset-->*any* T60/p will take a Core 2 Duo CPU with newer BIOS || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA (2D) with "p" graphics card (ATi V5200 or V5250) || <!--Audio-->{{no|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || {{no|e1000e 82573L}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel ipw3945 ABG but atheros with Middleton's or Zender BIOS hacking risky}} || Icaros 1.4 || <!--Comments-->2006 - |- | <!--Name-->X60 x60s x60t tablet || <!--Chipset-->945GMS 940GML || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|AD1981 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 3945 ABG or fru 39T5578 Atheros 5K AR5BXB6 ar5007eg with bios hacking}} || <!--Comments-->Icaros 1.4 || 2006 32bit - perhaps needs a zendered bios update but risky |- | <!--Name-->R60 R60e || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->intel 950 with optional radeon x1300 x1400 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with 1981HD codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel or Broadcom || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel 3945 or atheros fru 39T5578 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit |- | Thinkpad T61 T61p without Middleton's or Zender BIOS || Core 2 Duo CPU T7300 T8300 || {{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || Intel GMA (2D), NVS 140m or Quadro FX 570M () || {{no|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || {{no|e1000e 82573L}} || {{No|Intel but atheros with bios hacking risky}} || Icaros 1.6 || 2007 64bit |- | <!--Name-->X61 x61s X61T Tablet || <!--Chipset-->i965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 3100 (2D) slow 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|AD1984 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->82566DM || <!--Wireless-->{{maybe|Atheros AR5212 (some revisions use Intel WLAN runs very hot) bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || 2007 64bit possible <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit ultrabook running very hot - |- | <!--Name-->R61 R61i || <!--Chipset-->Intel 965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->intel 965 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with conexant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5787M || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit |- | Lenovo 3000 N200 || <!--Chipset-->Santa Rosa || {{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe| }} || {{yes|Geforce 7300 (2D)}} || {{yes|ALC262 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || {{no|Broadcom}} || {{no|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2007 64bit 3D graphics parts are supported but buggy. |- | Lenovo 3000 N200 / V200 || GM965 ICH9-M with Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo T5450 || {{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe| }} || {{yes|X3100 (2D)}} || {{Maybe|HD Audio ALC269VB or CX20549}} || {{yes| }} || {{no|BCM5906M}} || {{no|Intel 3965 / 4965AGN bios locked}} || Icaros 1.4.1 2.1 || 2007 64bits of laptop works |- | <!--Name-->X300 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo Merom SL7100 1.2GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1.8 inch || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel X3100}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio AD1984A || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 4965 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit 13.3" TFT 1440x900 (WXGA+) with LED backlight |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad Edge 11″ AMD K325 || <!--Chipset-->M880G || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA for ATI HD4200}} || <!--Audio-->{{{{maybe|}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 8111}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|8192CE (Realtek 8176) bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 little support |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X301 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo Penryn SU9400 Su9600 with GM45 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1.8 inch micro SATA (uSATA) || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel X4500}} || <!--Audio-->AD1984A || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 5xxx WiFi link 5100, 5150, 5300 and 5350 (WiMAX) bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 WXGA+ (1440×900) LED backlight display - 2774 or 4057 Alps and 2776 Synaptics touchpad - optical bay interface is Legacy IDE (PATA) - Addonics ADMS18SA, Lycom ST-170m |- | <!--Name-->X100e || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon Neo Single-Core (MV-40) and dual cores || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|2.5in tray in ide mode in bios}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa ATI HD3200}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with CX20582 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8111}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek r8192se bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 11.6in 1366 x 768 - 20v 65W round barrel - enter f1 setup f11 diagnostics f12 boot list - runs very warm - |- | <!--Name-->SL400 SL500 || Intel || {{N/A}} || {{Yes|IDE mode}} || {{Maybe|Nvidia 9400M}} || {{Maybe|ALC269}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{Maybe|RTL8169}} || {{Maybe| bios locked}} || || |- | <!--Name-->SL410 SL510 || 965 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE mode}} || {{maybe|Intel GMA X4500M (some 2D)}} || {{yes|HD Audio with ALC269 codec - speaker and ear phones}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{yes|RTL8169}} || {{Maybe| bios locked}} || [http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=645774&postcount=28 Icaros 1.3] || 2009 64bit SL-410 |- | <!--Name-->T400 ODM Wistron || <!--Chipset-->i || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel 4500MHD works limited 2d no 3d - optional switchable Nvidia or ATi HD3470 untested}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with Codec CX20561 (T400)}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel e1000e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Wifi Link 5100 (AGN) half height card with FRU 43Y6493 or 5300 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 20v lenovo plug - non-free firmware required iwlwifi |- | <!--Name-->T400s || <!--Chipset-->i || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VSEA for Intel 4500MHD works limited 2d no 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with CX20585}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel e1000e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Wifi Link 5100 (AGN) half height card with FRU 43Y6493 or 5300 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit non-free firmware required iwlwifi |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo T500 T510 || <!--Chipset-->i || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA for switchable Intel / AMD HD 3640}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|Intel HD Audio with a CX20561 (t500) and CX20585 (T510) codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or Lenovo branded unit Atheros AR5007EG AR5BHB63 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit |- | <!--Name-->X200 ODM Wistron [http://itgen.blogspot.co.uk/2008/12/installing-arch-linux-on-lenovo.html X200s] and x200t tablet model without [http://fsfe.soup.io/post/590865884/the-unconventionals-blog-English-Flashing-Libreboot-on Risky flash of the Libreboot BIOS] || <!--Chipset-->GM45 GS45 with slow Celeron, SU or faster SL Core 2 Duos CPUs || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe||Intel GMA 4500 MHD 2D but slow software 3D tunnel 10 gearbox 8 tests}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel HD Audio with Conexant CX20561 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{{Yes|USB 2.0 USB SD card reads and writes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82567LM Gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel Pro 5100 5150 5300 5350 AGN due to whitelist prevention bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.1 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 12.1" CCFL (webcam version) or LED backlit (no webcam). no support for 54mm express cards or Authentec 2810 fingerprint reader - thinkpoint only no trackpad - thinklight - |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo T410 T410s T410si || <!--Chipset-->qm57 with i5 m || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use vesa Intel 5700MHD (Ironlake) core processor igp with optional Nvidia Quadro NVS 3100M}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio Conexant CX20585 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82577lm gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel n 6200 or Atheros AR9280 AR5BHB92 half size minipcie detected bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2 xmas || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit battery life much lower with Nvidia graphics version - no support firewire ricoh r5c832 - ricoh sd card - series 5 3400 |- | <!--Name-->X201 X201s x201t || <!--Chipset-->QM57 Core i3 370m, i5 M520 2.4GHz or i7 620LM 2.0GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|vesa 2d on Intel GMA HD}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel HD with [https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=94.0 Conexant 20585] codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2010 X201 arrandale power consumption limits battery life to 3-4 hours for 48Whr though to 6 on 72Whr - 12.5" WXGA |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->T420 type 4180 4236 t420s T520 4239 L520 || <!--Chipset-->i5 2540, 2520 or i7 2860QM 2620 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS but not AHCI}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 136 x 768 - Intel HD 3000 with optional NVS 4200M Nvidia optimus or Radeon HD 565v }} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio playback ear phones only with Conexant CX20672 codec - AHI 6.27}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO 1000 82579LM}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek 1x1, Intel Ultimate-N 6205 6250 2x2 6300 3x3 all bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2.2 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit add noacpi to grub boot options - screen 1600x900 or 1366x768 - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad W520 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 3000 with nvidia quadro 1000m 2000m}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel Hd with CX 20585 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82579 Lm}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6000s}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit optimus issues with Nvidia Intel hybrids unless bumblebee switching - 15.6" TFT display with 1366x768 (HD), 1600x900 (HD+) or 1920x1080 (FHD) resolution with LED backlight |- | <!--Name-->X220 x220t || <!--Chipset-->QM67 express, dual i5 2520M or i7 dual 2620M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS but not AHCI}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D 1024 x 768 for Intel HD Graphics 3000}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel HD playback with Conexant 20672 codec ear phones and speaker - AHI 6.27 6.34}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82579LM}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 Wi-Fi bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3, Aros One USB 1.6 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit possible - uses slimmer 7 mm storage sata devices - NEC USB 3.0 on i7's no support - unwanted trackpad gestures when palm rests on it - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots - external battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X120e, x121e Quanta FL8A DAFL8AMB8D0 Rev D || <!--Chipset-->Hudson M1 with slow AMD E350 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->yes || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA ATI 0x9802}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ATI SBx00 Azalia HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->USB 2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8169 RTL8111 || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom 0x0576 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit 11.6 inch screen - 1 inch think - chiclet keyboard |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad S205 G575 G585, Edge 11 E325 || <!--Chipset-->Slow E-350 later E-450 with A75 or AMD Athlon II Neo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA HD6310}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - removeable and plug in battery - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad S206 || <!--Chipset-->AMD E300 1.3GHZ Dual || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD Audio with CX20672 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|3.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom 10/100 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6" and integrated battery - Conexant® |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo x130e or x131e edu || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD E-300 or E-450 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon HD 6310 or 6320 }} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio Realtek ALC269VC / ALC3202 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|USB 30 and USB 20}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111 RTL8168B || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8188CE or Broadcom BCM43228 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - rubber edged bumper for K12 education market - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad Edge E135 E335 || <!--Chipset-->amd dual E-300, E2-1800 or E2-2000 slow atom like A68M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|SATA 3.0Gb/s 2.5" wide 7mm high}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA radeon 6310 or 7340 vga or hdmi}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HDAudio with Realtek ALC3202 codec}} || <!--USB-->2 usb3, 1 powered usb2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 8111f}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek WLAN whitelist bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6 inch to 13.3in 1366x768 - Acrylonitrile-Butadiene-Styrene (ABS) plastic case - external battery - 20v 65w lenovo barrel ac - 2 ddr3 sodimm 8Gb max - |- | <!--Name-->x140e E145 || <!--Chipset-->E1 2500 dual or A4 5000 apu quad BGA769 (FT3) || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon 8260 or 8330}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Realtek ALC269VC aka ALC3202 codec}} || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111F or Broadcom || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8188CE 11b/g/n or FRU Intel version}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit 11.6" 1366x768, non-glare and Broadcom bluetooth - education student market rugged model - both CPUs soldered - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad Edge E525 E535 LENOVO IDEAPAD Z575 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-3420M A8-3500M later A8-4500M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD 6620G later 7640G}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Conexant codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|USB2 but not usb3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 Realtek 8111}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6in 1368 x 768 matt - 65W 20v lenovo round psu - thick desktop replacement - ThinkPad Edge E520 E520S E525 E530 E545 E535 E530C Laptop Keyboard swap - |- | <!--Name-->T430 t430i T530 || <!--Chipset-->ivy bridge i5 3320 3230m on Intel QM77 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 1366 x 768 for Intel HD 4000 with optional Nvidia 5400M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with Realtek ALC3202 aka ALC269VC codec playback ear head phones - HDA 6.27}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2 ports and usb2.0 devices thru usb 3.0 ports}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel e1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or Atheros AR9285 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit fan noise and chiclet keyboard, synaptics trackpad 06CB:CE2D 06CB:7F28 - HD+ 1600x900 or 768p - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad L430 L530 || <!--Chipset-->Intel HM series 7 chipset i5 3210M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 4000}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with Realtek ALC269VC codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8169 rtl810x || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 6205 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit alps trackpad - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad W530 || <!--Chipset-->Intel HM series 7 chipset i5 3210M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 4000 with Nvidia GK107GLM Quadro K2000M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with Realtek ALC3202 ALC269VC codec }} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82579LM || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6300 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - ricoh sdxc slot - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X230 x230t || <!--Chipset-->Intel QM67 express i5 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with ALC269 aka ALC3202}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|I}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - 12.2 in 1366 x 768 - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots - external battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad T440 t440s t440p T540 L440 L540 || <!--Chipset-->intel haswell 8 series Core i3 to i7 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA - Intel 4600 or Nvidia}} || <!--Audio-->Intel HD with Realtek ALC3232 alc269 codec or ALC292 || <!--USB-->2 usb 3.0 and 2 usb 2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel AC 7260 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 14 and 15" models with glitchy trackpad and no physical buttons - IPS options available - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components or 4 variants of key caps - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X240 x240t ultrabook TN (20AL0081GE), HD IPS display without touch (20AL007NGE) and touch (20AL0076GE) but all 65% sRGB || <!--Chipset-->haswell i7-4600U i5 4200U 4210U 4300U i3-4100U - two batteries, one internal 3cell 45N1110 (45N1111) or 45N1112 (FRU 45N1113) and external 3 / 6cell 45N1126 (FRU 45N1127) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in 7mm sata (torq t7), m.2 2242 in WWAN slot (m and b key NGFF Sata) || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for Intel 4400 for vga or mini-dp}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 0x8086 0x0a0c 0x9c20 with Realtek ALC3232 aka ALC292 0x10ec 0x0292}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel® 82577LM Gigabit (Hanksville) }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel 7260n I218-V or I218-LM bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 12.2in 1366 x 768 or 1080p - 1 ddr3l sodimm slot - no keyboard spill drainage and at least 2 variants of key caps - lenovo rectangle pwr ac - TPM 1.2 - Bluetooth 4.0 no support - large touchpad with integrated but no physical buttons - bottom panel loosening 8 retained screws - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad T450 T450s t450p T550 L550 || <!--Chipset-->Intel i5 4300U i3 5010U i5 5200U 5300U i7 5500U 5600U soldered || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 5500 5600 with optional nvidia 940M}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD Audio with ALC3232 codec Realtek ALC3232 0x10ec 0x0292}} || <!--USB-->{{no|3 USB 3.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Wireless AC 7265 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit 14" 1366 x 768, 1600 x 900 or IPS 1920x1080 - Broadwell - keyboard swap requires removal of all components and key cap versions - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad x250 x250t || <!--Chipset-->i3 5010U i5 5200U 5300U i7 5600U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|2.5in 7mm or m.2 2242 sata (m and b key)}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Realtek ALC3232 codec / Intel HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{no|up to 3 USB 3.0 partly boots from usb but stops waiting for usb}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel I218 extension port}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel AC 7265 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.0 USB || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - 1366 x 768, 1920 × 1080 12.5" screen - Fn and F1 for setup bios - F12 boot options - 1 ddr3l sodimm slot - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad E540 || <!--Chipset-->Intel || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2D for Intel gfx}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HDAudio with Conexant CX20751-21Z codec}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB2 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 8111gus}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel Wireless-N 7260 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 15.6in 1376 x 786 - plastic construction - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad Edge E545 * key cap swap with E440 E531 E540 L440 L450 T431S T440S T440P T540 * Keyboard swap L540 T540p W540 Edge E531 E540 W541 T550 W550S L560 P50S T560 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Socket FS1r2 A6-5350M (2c2t) or A8-4500M, A8-5550M, A10-5750M (4c4t) with A76M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in 9.5mm - enter UEFI bios with Enter or ESC, config section, sata into compatibility and security, secure boot disabled - mini sata DVD burner PLSD DS8A9SH || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD 7640G, 8450G, 8550G, 8650G ?? Islands}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|VOID 6.3 for HDAudio 8086:1c20 Conexant CX20590 Analog 0x14f1 0x506e, CX20671 codec 0x14f1 0x5069, or audio over Trinity HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|boots pen drives from yellow usb port but not from blue USB3 ones}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 1GbE 8111F}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM43142 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.3 USB with noacpi added to end of grub2 boot line but no further boot for usb3 socket/stick || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit SSE 4.1 and AVX - 15.6in 1366 x 768 matt - 20v 65w 90w round lenovo plug psu - 2 DDR3 SODIMM slots stacked up to 16GB Max - external 6 Cell Li-Ion Battery 48Wh - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery in wifi area jp1202 - amd v(tm) virtualization not working - |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo G505s || <!--Chipset-->AMD A8 5550M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD 8550M islands chipset}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Qualcomm Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit 15.6" - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad Flex 15D 20334 || <!--Chipset-->AMD a6 5200, e1 2100, || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Radeon R3 southern islands chipset}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 8169 rtl810x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k whitelist for wifi swap}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo B50-45, G50-45 80E3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A8-6410 (2c), A6-6400 (2c), AMD A8 (4c), AMD A4-6300 (2c), AMD E2-6200 (2c), AMD E1-6050 (2c) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|I}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit 15.6" 1366 x 768 - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad E455 E555 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-7000 A8-7100 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R5 }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Conexant® CX20751 codec 0x14f1 0x510f}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111GUS || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8723BE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - 14 768p or up to 15.6in 1080p - 2 DDR3L slots max 16G - no TPM - keyboard swap but Lenovo E550 E550C E555 E560 E560C E565 range has at least 2 different key cap variants - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Z40-75 Z50-75 || <!--Chipset-->A10-7300 4c 4t || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R6 6CUs}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - heavy - external battery - slim box lenovo ac - dvdrw - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad E465 E565 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-8500P 8600P A8-8700P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Conexant® CX11852 codec 0x14f1 0x5}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6" 1366 x 768 to 1080p IPS - Polycarbonate, ABS Plastic shell casing - internal battery - |- |<!--Name-->AMD platform codes *Beema: ABM, *Carizzo-L: ACL, *Carizzo: ACZ, *Godavari: AGR, *Kaveri: AKV, *Stoney Ridge: ASR, *Stoney Ridge: AST (NB), || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> *Summit Ridge: ASU, *Bristol Ridge-L: ABL, *Bristol Ridge: ABR, *Raven Ridge: ARR, *Picasso: API |- | <!--Name-->LENOVO IDEAPAD 500-15ACZ || <!--Chipset-->AMD 4c A10-8700P A8-8600P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5 M.2 || <!--Gfx-->VESA for Radeon R5 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek Atheros Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bits - 15.6" 768p to 1080p - 2 ddr3l slots max 16gb - 45w rectangle psu - |- | <!--Name-->lenovo yoga 510-14ast 8059, || <!--Chipset-->A6-9210 A9-9410 and Intel Xeon E3-1200 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 45w 20v round barrel 4.0 * 1.7mm fits Yoga 310 510 520 710 - Harman Audio - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->V110-14AST V110-15AST V110 (15") || <!--Chipset-->AMD E1-9000, A6-9210 to A9-9410 all dual core || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 2.5in sata most 7mm some 9.5mm || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD R2, R3, R5 or R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in mostly 768p to 1080p 220 nits - 20v 45W or 65W lenovo slim rectangle end ac - keyboard swap hard - integrated 24WHr battery - 4gb ddr4 ram soldered and 1 2133Mhz ddr4 slot max 12Gb - abs plastic - |- |<!--Name--> *ThinkPad A275 12in (1 ddr4 1866MHz sodimm) *Thinkpad A475 14in (2 ddr4 1866MHz sodimm) - both internal (main) and external (secondary) battery || <!--Chipset-->A10-8730B A10-9700B 2.500Ghz later A12-8830B A12-9800B all 4c4t (AVX2 on 9000s) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|Sata3 port for 7mm 2.5in ssd hdd with mbr and not gpt, setup in other machines - secure boot disabled, bios startup boot set to legacy then uefi - WWAN slot cannot use M.2 2242 sata with M and B key}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD R5 or R7}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 0x1022, 0x157a 6.34 ahi with ALC3268 codec 0x10ec, 0x0298 aka ALC298 - VOID even with QUERY / QUERYD added}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 starts to boot pendrives but stops, usb mouse not detected}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 RTL8111EPV, shell pinging google.com works but apps like OWB start when copied to RAM: and run from there}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8822BE WLAN whitelist locked cannot swap}} || <!--Test Distro-->{{No|AROSOne USB 1.8 with noacpi noapic noioapic added to grub2 boot line then hanging on bootable media (kitty eyes)}} || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit 12 or 14in 1366 x 768 poor screen - 45W or 65w lenovo rectangle ac adapter - F1 enter bios and F12 boot order - 6 retained screws and snap on base - keyboard swap not easy - 2100 error message no solution except using only efi/gpt bios option - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E475 E575 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9500b A10-9600P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Conexant CX11852 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek R8111GUS || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 15.6" 1366 x 768 to 1080p IPS - Polycarbonate, ABS Plastic shell casing - internal battery - two DDR4 SO-DIMM sockets clocks down with 1866MHz DDR4 memory controller - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Ideapad S145-14AST S145-15AST || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9225, A9-9425, A10-9600P 7th Gen, AMD A12-9720P Mobo 5B20P11110 NMB341 Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon 8670A 8670M 8690M GCN 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A|N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 or Realtek RTL8821CE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 14in or 15.6" 768p or 1080p - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Ideapad V145-14AST V145-15AST, 81mt, Ideapad 310, Ideapad 320-15ABR, Ideapad 330-14AST 330-15AST 330-17AST || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9225, A9-9425 (2c2t), A10-9600P 7th Gen, AMD A12-9720P Mobo 5B20P11110 NMB341 Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon 8670A 8670M 8690M GCN 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with ALC236 codec, }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|rtl8169 10/100 only}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 or Realtek RTL8821CE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 14in or 15.6" 768p or 1080p - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - 45w 6w slim ac adapter - keyboard swap problematic - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo V330-14ARR 81B1, Ideapad 330s 15ARR, || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R3 2200U, 2300U or R5 2500U Raven Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3, 6 or 8 up to 1Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|Realtek 1GbE but not on 330s}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14" 20mm thick 1.8kg - 20v 2.25a 45w ac round barrel - chiclet keyboard - 4Gb soldered and 1 ddr4 sodimm - TPM 2.0 in bios - battery internal about 30whr - 4GB soldered - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad Edge E485 E585 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R3 2300U R5 2500U R7 2700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme maybe 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Vega 3, 8 or 10}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with CX11852 codec }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 rtl8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in or 15.6in 768p or 1080p - USB-C 20V 2.25A 3.25A avoid knocking charging port as damages easily - 2 ddr4 sodimm slot max 2400Mhz 32GB - internal battery only - TPM 2.0 software - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad A285 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen PRO 3 2200U 5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata port and m.2 sata ngff port || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC ALC3287 codec aka ALC257 }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Mini-Ethernet/Docking}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Qualcomm - WLAN whitelist no more??}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 12.5in 1080p - avoid usb-c port being lifted/moved whilst in use as damages laptop easily - internal and external battery - soldered ram 8gb or 16gb - WWAN whitelist - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad A485 bios setting [https://github.com/PSPReverse/PSPTool AMD PSP Platform Security Processor Key] || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen PRO 5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata port and m.2 sata ngff port || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC ALC3287 codec aka ALC 257 }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUL}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Qualcomm - WLAN whitelist no more??}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in 768p, 1080p or 1440p - avoid usb-c port being lifted/moved whilst in use as damages laptop easily - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 32gb - internal and external battery - WWAN whitelist - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Yoga 530-14ARR 81H9 || <!--Chipset-->R5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in 1080p - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo V14-ADA, V15-ADA 82C700E4UK || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 3050U, 3150U, 3250U, Ryzen 5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1x 2.5" HDD + 1x M.2 SSD NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Qualcomm}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14 or 15.6in - internal battery - 4GB soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - keyboard swap problematic - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad E Edge E495 20NE, Edge E595, || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 3200U r5 3500U, R7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 nvme maybe 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Vega 3, 8 or 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with synaptic formerly conexant CX11880 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14in or 15.6in 768p or 1080p - ddr4 soldered with 1 dimm slot - USB-C charger issue was fixed with a BIOS update, if not the charger shorts the motherboard - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo v155-15api 81V5 V155 (15" AMD) budget all plastic build || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon 300U, Ryzen 3 3200U r5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 nvme and usually 2.5in 7mm sata - install on mbr not gpt 2.5in in another compatible machine - mini sata dvd/cd da-8aesh11b || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D 1920x1080, 1280x1024, 800x600 work for Vega 3 or 8 with up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken but hdmi 1.4b no output}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio add 0x1022, 0x15E3 with Realtek ALC257 codec 0x10ec, 0x0257 - no issues with 32bit}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 not detected with no usb-c ports}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS works well with 32bit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.8 USB 32bit and deadwoods native x64 iso with grub line ATA=32bit noacpi || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 768p or 1080p 200nits tn panel - 4Gb ddr4 2400MHz soldered with 1 dimm slot max 20Gb - round ac 20V 65W psu 4.0mm x 1.7mm - MS created a new protocol, HID over I2C so [https://askubuntu.com/questions/1033033/elantech-touchpad-does-not-work-i2c-hid elantech i2c-hid i2c PS2 hybrid trackpad] 04F3:3140 touchpad not functioning - internal sunwoda battery L18D3PF1 35Whr but also L18L3PF1 L18C3PF2 - Fn+F2 to enter bios and F12 boot order - no sd card slot - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad C340-13AP1, IdeaPad S340-14API C340-14API || <!--Chipset-->R3 3200U, R5 3500U, R7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3, 8, 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 13in convertible or 14" laptop - 4GB soldered - usb-c charging care needed - keyboard swap problematic - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo IdeaPad L340-15API 81LW001CUS L340-17API untested || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon 300U, Ryzen 3 3200U r5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 nvme and usually 2.5in sata - install on mbr not gpt 2.5in in another compatible machine - mini sata dvd/cd da-8aesh11b || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Vega 3 or 8 with up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken - hdmi 1.4b}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio add 0x1022, 0x15E3 with Realtek ALC236 0x10ec, 0x0236}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 not detected}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.8 USB || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 768p or 1080p 200nits - 4Gb ddr4 2400MHz soldered with 1 dimm slot max 20Gb - round ac 20V 65W psu 4.0mm x 1.7mm - elan trackpad not functioning - internal battery - Return or F1 to enter bios and F12 boot order - no sd card slot - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad S540-14API, Ideapad S145-14API, S145-15API || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3020e to 300U, 5 3500U, 7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme, some may have 1 2.5in space || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega 3, 8 or 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|3.1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|RTL8822BE AC (1×1)}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - keyboard swap problematic - sd card slot - no cd dvd - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot 2400Mhz - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad T295 T495 T495s X395 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 3300U, R5 Pro 3500U or R7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 NVMe up to 2280 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 6, 8 or 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111EPV not on slim T495s}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8822BE or Intel AC 9260}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14in 768p but mostly FHD 1080p 250 nits - internal battery - ram 8gb or 16gb 2400Mhz soldered with 1 ddr4 slot on T495 only - TPM 2.0 - usb-c charging avoid knock whilst in use - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 Gen2, E15 Gen 2 (AMD) 20T8, - lenovo has a mobile phone PC Diagnostic App for error/beep codes || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 4300U, 5 4500U, 7 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2 m.2 nvme, 1 2242 and 1 2280 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD Radeon up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 15.6in 1080p 220 nits - TPM 2.0 - usb-c charging of internal 45Whr battery - 4gb ddr4 3200Mhz soldered and 1 ddr4 sodimm slot max 20Gb - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkPad T14, Lenovo L14 Gen 1, L15 Gen 1, ThinkPad P14s Gen 1 (AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 4300u, 5 4500U, Ryzen 5 Pro 4650U, Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R5 }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111EPV (DASH models) or RTL8111HN}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - USB-C charger avoid moving whilst in use - 14" or 15" 1080p - keyboard swap problematic - 8gb or 16gb 3200MHz soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - sd card slot - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkPad X13 Gen1 AMD, || <!--Chipset-->AMD RYZEN 3 4450U, 5 4650U or 7 4750U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->One drive, up to 512GB M.2 2242 SSD or 1TB M.2 2280 SSD NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA Radeon up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{unk| but USB-C ports can fail}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Realtek RTL8111EPV, mini RJ-45 to RJ-45 via optional ThinkPad Ethernet Extension Adapter Gen 2}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek Wi-Fi 6 RTL8852AE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 13.3" HD 1366x768 to 1080p - USB-C port care needed as damages easily - Memory soldered to systemboard, no slots, dual-channel DDR4-3200 - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkBook 14 G2, 15 G2 Are ITL || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 4500u, 7 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->14in has 2 m.2 nvme but 15in has 1 nvme and might have 2.5in metal sata caddy || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in or 15in 1080p - usb-c charging powered - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot 3200mhz - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad 5 14ARE05 (81YM) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 3 4300U (4c4t), 5 4500u (6c6t) 4600U (6c12t), 7 4700u (8c16t) on AMD Promontory Bixby FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1x M.2 2242 slot and may have 1x M.2 2280 NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 6 hdmi up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel ax200 wifi 6}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit 14inch 768p or 1080p - round lenovo ac - 4gb, 8gb, or 16gb ddr4 3200Mhz ram soldered non upgradable - keyboard swap problematic - integrated battery - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->Ideapad Flex 5 81X2 || <!--Chipset-->AMD R5 4500u, R7 4800U, R3 5300 R5 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 NVMe ssd || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC? codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3.1 gen 1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|realtek ac wifi}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit abs plastic case 14in convertible 1080p touch low nits - 65w usb-c psu ac - possible wacom esr note taking pen supplied - ram soldered DDR4 - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkBook 14 G3, 15 G3 ACL || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 14in or 15in 1080p - usb-c charging powered - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 G3, E15 Gen 3 (AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 5300U 5500U 5650U 5700U 5800U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->up to 2 m.2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|realtek or intel }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - - usb-c charging issues lenovo has a mobile phone PC Diagnostic App for error/beep codes - keyboard swap problematic - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 3200Mhz sodimm slot - |- |<!--Name-->V15 G2 ALC 82KD || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 5300U, 5 5500U, 7 5700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme 2280 with some having 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H-CG}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 15.6" FHD 1080p - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - 65w round ac adaptor - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L15 Gen 2 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 5000 series AMD Ryzen 3 5400U (4c8t), 5 5600U, 5 5650U (6c12t), 7 PRO 5850U (8c16t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111EPV (DASH models) or RTL8111HN}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 15.6in 768p or 1080p - usb-c charging - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr4 3200Mhz sodimm slot - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 Gen 4, E15 Gen 4 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 3 5425u, 5 5625U, 7 5825u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 (14") or 2 (15") nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - usb-c charging - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 3200Mhz sodimm slot - L19M3PDA 45Whr battery - U24 TPS65994 and QB6 QB5 mosfet issues - |- |<!--Name-->V15 G3 ALC || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 6500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15"FHD - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L15 Gen 3 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 6000 series || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit- 15.6in 1080p - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Yoga 7 14ARB7 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5, 6600U, 7 6800U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD 660M or 680M || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with ALC3306 aka alc287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 14in 1800p ips 300 nits - usb-c ac charging 71whr integrated battery - sd card slot - digital pen input - 8gb, 6gb or 32gb soldered ddr5 ram - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 g5, E15 Gen 5 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7000 series 7 7730U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB4 thunderbolt}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit- 15.6in 1080p - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkbook 14 G6 ABP IRL || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 7530U 7730U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 untested}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 14in 1200p or 1440p - 100W USB-C AC power adapter - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad Slim 5 Light 14ABR8 Laptop || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 7330U (4c8t) 5 7530U (6c12t) 7 7730U (8c16t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2 m.2 nvme slot - 1 2242, 1 2280 || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 14in 1080p - 8Gb or 16Gb soldered ram - usb-c charging only - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad X13 Gen 4 (13" AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7480U 7040U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{unk| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 - avoid usb-c port damage - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L15 Gen 4 (15" AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7480U 7040U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{unk| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo V15 G4 AMN || <!--Chipset-->AMD AMD Athlon™ Gold 7220U (2c4t), AMD Athlon™ Silver 7120U (2c2t), AMD Ryzen™ 3 7320U (4c8t), AMD Ryzen™ 5 7520U (4c8t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for AMD 610M HDMI® and USB-C}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDaudio with ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Gigabit Ethernet, 1x RJ-45 || <!--Wireless-->{{no|wifi 6}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6" FHD (1920x1080) - 8 or 16Gb soldered - 65W round tip (3-pin) AC adapter or USB-C - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad e14 G6, e15 Gen 6 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7000 series AMD Ryzen™ 7 7735HS || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit- 15.6in 1080p - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L16 (16" AMD), ThinkPad T14 Gen 5 (14" AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 8000 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB4}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Samsung==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="2%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->NP-Q1 Q1 || <!--Chipset-->Celeron-M 353 ULV 600Mhz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes|1.8" SFF HDD 20 / 60 GB }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 915 2D and 3D opengl1 tunnel 95 gearbox 68}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec - head phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Yes|Atheros 5006EX}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit old style tablet UltraMobile PC UMPC - Wacom serial resistive pen or finger no support - 1 sodimm ddr2 max 1Gb - LCD 7" WVGA (800 x 480) - CompactFlash port Type II - |- | <!--Name-->NP Q1U Ultra Mobile PC UMPC Q1F NP-Q1-F000 || <!--Chipset-->Intel A100 600 / A110 Stealey 800 MHz CPU || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|GMA 950 2D and 3D opengl1}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio 1986}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros 5006EX}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit 1024×600 - sd card slot - |- | <!--Name-->NP P500 family P500Y || <!--Chipset-->AMD with SB600 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Ati x1250}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| Audio with codec }} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8039 yukon}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|Atheros G}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->64bit possible - 15.4 tft display - cheap plastic okay build - 19v propriety end - |- | <!--Name-->R505 R510 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros G || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->R520 R522 R610H R620 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Mobile Core i3 Intel PM45 82801M ICH9-M|| <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 (RV730) || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC272 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Marvell Yukon 88E8057 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR5007EG || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2010 64 bit possible |- | NP-R530 || || {{N/A}} || {{partial|IDE mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{partial|HD Audio playback}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{no|Marvell}} || {{no|Atheros AR9285}} || Icaros 1.5.2 || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Samsung R730 17.3 Essential Notebook NP-R730-JA02UK, NP-R730-JA01SE, R730-JT06 || <!--Chipset-->Intel HM55 Dual Core T4300 i3-370M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for Intel 4500MHD and GeForce G 310M with 1 VGA, 1 HDMI}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio ALC??? codec Realtek}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell Yukon 88E8059 PCI-E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom, Intel or Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro-->Deadwoods ISO 2023-11 || <!--Comments-->2010 64bit - 17.3in HD 1280 x 720 pixels low contrast or some 1600x900 - 2 DDR3 sodimm slots - 2.84 kg 6.26 lbs - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-305U1A-A01DE-Subnotebook.68246.0.html Series 3 Samsung 305u1a] || <!--Chipset-->AMD Zacate E350 or E450 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon 6320 || <!--Audio-->ALC ACL 269 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom 4313 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit |- | <!--Name-->NP-RV415 NP-RV515 || <!--Chipset-->E350 or E450 plus A50M chipset || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon HD 6470 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio Realtek || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111 8168B || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9285 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit slow - |- | <!--Name-->Series 5 NP535U3C || <!--Chipset-->A6-4455M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in || <!--Gfx-->radeon || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit slow - 13.3in 1368 x 768 - plastic build - 65w 19v psu - |- | <!--Name-->series 3 NP355V5C || <!--Chipset-->A6-4400M, A8-4500M, A10-4600M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in || <!--Gfx-->7640M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit - 15.4in 1368 x 768 - plastic build - 65w 19v psu - |- | <!--Name-->Samsung ATIV Book 9 Lite NP905S3G || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-1450 quad 1GHz Temash atom like || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->128gb || <!--Gfx-->AMD 8250 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek rtl8169 but only with mini LAN AA-AE2N12B Ethernet Adapter RJ45 dongle}} || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9565 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 13.3 TN glossy 1366 x 768 200nits 60% srgb - plastic case - 26W battery built in with 4hr life - 19V 2.1A 3.0*1.0mm psu - 1 ddr3l slot max 4gb - 720p webcam - mini hdmi out - 1w speakers - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Toshiba==== [[#top|...to the top]] Order of Build Quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Equium Satellite (Pro) Libretto Portege Tecra </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Tecra 8100 8200 9000 || 440BX || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|S3 Savage MX 3D (VESA only)}} || {{no|Yamaha DS-XG ymf744 ymf-754}} || {{yes|USB1.1 only}} || {{N/A}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.5 || little support |- | <!--Name-->Tecra 9100 || <!--Chipset-->810 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|S3 Savage IX}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|ymf754}} || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->eeee pro100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->PSU Adapter For Toshiba Tecra 9000 9100 A1 A10 A11 A3 A3X A4 A5 A7 M1 M2 M3 M4 M5 M7 M9 R10 S1 series 75 Watt 15V 5A |- | [http://tuxmobil.org/toshiba_sp4600.html Satellite Pro 4600] || i810 || IDE || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Trident Cyber Blade XP (VESA only)}} || {{no|YAMAHA DS-XG AC97 ymf754}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel e100}} || {{no|Agere (internal PCMCIA)}} || || little support |- | Satellite 2805 S603 || Intel 815 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|nVidia GeForce2 Go}} || {{no|Yamaha Corp YMF 754}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO/100}} || {{dunno}} || || little support |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A10 S167 S1291 - A15 A20 A25 || <!--Chipset-->P4M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GM or Radeon || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139 || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel 2100, Agere or Atheros PA3399U 1MPC minipci}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->a few models came with antenna leads |- | Satellite [http://eu.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/jsp/SUPPORTSECTION/discontinuedProductPage.do?service=EU&com.broadvision.session.new=Yes&PRODUCT_ID=76230 A30-714] || P4-M / 82845 i845 || {{yes|82801}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes}} || {{yes|RTL8139}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || nice laptop, drawbacks: heavy, really hot (P4-3.06 GHz!!) - A30 (EU) A33 (Australian) A35 (USA) - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A40 A45 || <!--Chipset-->P4M or Celeron M with Intel 845 865 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GME or Radeon 7000 Mobility || <!--Audio-->AC97 Realtek || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5002G 5004G - PA3299U mini pci || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - A40 S161 A40-S1611 A40-2701, A45-S120 A45-S1201 S130 S1301 S1501 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite a50 A55 a60-s156 Equium A60 PSA67E A65 || <!--Chipset-->P4M or Celeron M with Intel 845 865 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GME or Radeon 7000 Mobility || <!--Audio-->AC97 Realtek || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5002G 5004G - PA3299U mini-pci || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A70 A75-S206 A80 A85-S107 || <!--Chipset-->P4M or Celeron-M with Intel 845 865 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GME or Radeon 7000 Mobility || <!--Audio-->AC97 Realtek || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5002G 5004G - PA3299U mini-pci || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5.1 || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - |- | Toshiba Satellite Pro M30 || intel 855 || {{yes|boots with ATA=nodma option}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{yes|Intel PRO/100 VE}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.5 || nice laptop with some support |- | <!--Name-->Portege M300 - M200 tablet || <!--Chipset-->855GM with 1.2GHz Pentium M 753 || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2d only - tablet with nvidia 5200 go}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 STAC 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->little support |- | <!--Name-->Tecra M2 M2-S || <!--Chipset-->Intel 855P Pentium-M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->nvidia fx go5200 32mb or 64mb agp || <!--Audio-->AC97 1981B || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Intel Pro || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - PSU 15V 5A - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro L20 267 (PSL2YE PSL2XE) PSL25E L30 || <!--Chipset-->Celeron M 370 1.4 1.5GHz, 1.73Ghz with RC410M SB400 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - Ati x200}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|[https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-490297-start-0.html ALC861]}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Boots usb sticks}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8139 Realtek 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros mini-pci should work maybe not working with ATi chipset or need to swap??}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit 14" pioneer dvd-rw - 19v |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L30 PSL30E L33 PSL33E || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 800 or ATi RC410 x200 || <!--Audio-->AC97 AD1981B or HD Audio ALC861 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros or Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->L30 PSL30L 101 PSL33E 113 115 134 00M019 - |- | Satellite Pro M40 313 psm44e || AMD with Ati || {{yes|boots with ATA=nodma}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{yes|}} || {{maybe|atheros askey ar5bmb5 mini pci}} || || 2005 32bit - nice laptop with some support |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L40 PSL40E PSL40L, PSL43E || <!--Chipset-->945GM with U7700 1.3GHz ULV || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945 || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD with AD1986A codec}} || <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR24xx Askey || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.3 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit only - - 12X 13G 139 14B 143 15J 19O - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L45 PSL40U S7409 S2416 || <!--Chipset-->945GM with Celeron M 440 1.86 GHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945 || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD with AD1986A codec}} || <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR24xx Askey || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.3 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit only - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro A100 || <!--Chipset-->940G || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia G72M Quadro NVS 110M GeForce Go 7300 / Ati (PSAA3E)|| <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC861 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 100 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 swap with atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A110 159 (PSAB0), Equium A110 (PSAB2E), Satellite A110 233 (PSAB6), || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->ALC861 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8136 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro A120 PSAC0 PSAC1 PSAC1E || <!--Chipset-->Core Solo GMA 950 to T2300 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 945 || <!--Audio-->ALC262 or AC97 AD1981B || <!--USB-->UHCI EHCI || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros Ar5001 or Intel or Broadcom || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->15V 4A charger - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro A120 || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo ATi RS480 + SB450 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA - ATI RC410 Radeon Xpress 200M || <!--Audio-->ALC262 || <!--USB-->OCHI UHCI || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 or Atheros Ar5001 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->15v 5a proprietary charger needed |- | <!--Name-->Satelite A130 PSAD6U || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8101E || <!--Wireless-->Atheros or Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->ST1311 s1311 ST1312 S2276 S2386 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A135 S2686 (Compal LA 3391P) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8101E || <!--Wireless-->Atheros or Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->S2246 S2346 S2256 S4477 S4666 S4827 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A200 PSAE1E (Inventec MW10M) || <!--Chipset-->Pentium M with 945GM Express || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}}|| <!--SATA--> {{Maybe|SATA}}|| <!--Gfx--> {{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D and 3D)}}|| <!--Audio--> {{Yes|HD Audio ALC862}}|| <!--USB--> {{Yes| }}|| <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|RTL8101E}}|| <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros 5000 - FN,F5 or FN,F8 or switch}} || <!--Test Distro--> AspireOS 1.8 || <!--Comments-->2006 Excellent 32 bit support! - Celeron M 520 1.6Ghz or Pentium® Core Duo T2130 1.86 GHz - make sure that your WLAN card is enabled, do this using the hardware switch and FN+F8 key combination |- | <!--Name--> A210, Satellite A215 AMD (Inventec 10A) S5808 || <!--Chipset--> Ati with SB690 || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}}|| <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|SATA}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA HD2600 Mobility M76}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC268 || <!--USB--> {{Yes| }}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8101E}}|| <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros 5000}}|| <!--Test Distro--> AspireOS 1.8 || <!--Comments-->A215-S7422 A215-S7472 A215-S4697 (USA) - |- | <!--Name--> [http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=62036 A215 S4757] || <!--Chipset--> Ati X1200 with SB600 || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}}|| <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|SATA}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> {{Yes| }}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8101E}}|| <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros 5000}}|| <!--Test Distro--> AspireOS 1.8 || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Tecra A10 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{Maybe|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|Intel GMA 4500M (2D)}} || <!--Audio--> {{Yes|HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> {{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO 1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel WiFi Link 5100}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->64 bit possible |- | <!--Name-->L35 - L40 PSL48E - L45 S7423 || <!--Chipset-->GL960 with Intel Celeron || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|X3100 some 2D but software 3d tunnel 9 gearbox 4}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC660 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|REALTEK 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek 8187b replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->1,73Ghz M 520 or M 540 or Dual T2310 (1.46 GHz) T2330 (1.6 GHz) - 14H 14N 15B 17H 17K 17R 17S 18Z - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite a300 - inventec potomac 10s pt10s A300D 21H || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio - Realtek || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8102E || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5005 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->satellite L300D-224 PSLC8E PSLC9E, l305 (inventec ps10s) || <!--Chipset-->AMD M780 with Turion RM70 or QL-64 || <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} || <!--SATA--> {{yes|SATA}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|use VESA for Radeon 3100}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio with Realtek ALC268}} || <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet--> {{no|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros G XB63L or Intel or Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros Desktop Live 2.3 AROS One 2.3 || <!--Comments--> Wireless-handler crashing when using Atheros-Wireless-Card |- | <!--Name-->satellite l300-1bw PSLBDE-005005AR, L300-148 PSLB0E, l300-20D PSLB8E-06Q007EN, l300-294 L300-23L PSLB9E || <!--Chipset-->Intel GM45 + PGA478 socket Celeron 900, Pentium T1600, T2390, T3400 (Socket P) to Core2 Duo T6400 T6670 || <!--IDE--> {{unk|IDE}} || <!--SATA--> {{unk|SATA}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|use VESA for Intel gma 4500M}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio with Realtek ALC???}} || <!--USB--> {{unk|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet--> {{unk|rtl8169 Realtek 810xE}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64-bit - new unfamiliar Bios called insyde H20 - |- | <!--Name-->satellite l350d || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon (tm) X2 QL-60 + RS780M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 3100 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8187b || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L450 12 13 14 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Sempron, 2.1GHz with AMD RS780M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 3200 (based on HD 2400) || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8172 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->12X 13P 13X 14V PSLY6E00C006EN |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro L450 (Compal LA-5821P) 179 || <!--Chipset-->intel celeron 900 2.20 Ghz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->intel 4500m || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101 /2 /6E PCI Express Gigabit || <!--Wireless-->RTL8191 SEvB || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->39.6cm (15.6”) Toshiba TruBrite® HD TFT High Brightness display with 16:9 aspect ratio internal resolution 1366 x 768 |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->L755D (E-350) L750D (E-450) || <!--Chipset-->AMD || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 6310 6320 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio conexant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Realtek || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro SP C640 C660D-15X (PSC1YE) C670D- () || <!--Chipset-->AMD E350 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->6310G || <!--Audio-->HD Realtek ALC259 || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 zacate |- |<!--Name-->Toshiba Satellite C660D-19X || <!--Chipset-->AMD E-300 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATi || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->r8169 rtl8101e || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8188 8192ce rtl8192ce || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->C70D-A C75D-A || <!--Chipset-->E1-1200 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD HD8330 || <!--Audio-->HA Audio CX20751 11Z || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8162 alx}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek 8188e}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satelite Pro C40D-A C50D-A C55D-A || <!--Chipset-->Slow E1 2100 or faster A4 5000 kabini || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->8330 || <!--Audio-->HD Realtek ALC269Q || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|AR8162}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RTL8188EE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Satelite S50D || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-5745M (4c4t), A8-5545M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon 8550M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->REaltek GbE || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8188E || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 15.6in 2.38kg and 24mm - |- | <!--Name-->Satelite C50DT-B-107 PSCN6E M50DT-A-210 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A8-6410 A6-5200 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon R3 R5 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->REaltek GbE || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8188E || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 15.6 Inch Touchscreen 1366 x 768 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L50D-C-13G || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-8700P 6th Gen || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon R6 || <!--Audio-->HD || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->1GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Sharp formerly 80% Toshiba Computers || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->dynabook formerly 20% Toshiba PC, Satellite Pro C40D C50D || <!--Chipset-->intel i? or AMD Ryzen || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in and 15.6in - ddr4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Misc==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Time 500 Packard Bell EasyOne 1450 1550 || <!--Chipset-->K6-3 500Mhz + VIA MVP4 vt82c686a || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|Issues}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA || <!--Audio-->{{No|VIA AC97 3058 with wolfson codec WM9703 WM9704 WM9707 WM9708 or WM9717}} || <!--USB-->via 3038 2 ports USB 1.1 untested || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro-->NB May 2013 || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit grub runs but stalls around [PCI] Everything OK |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Sony Vaio PCG FX201/FX202 FX210/FX215 FX401/FX402 FX404/FX405 972M, FX501/FX502 FX504/FX505, FX601/FX602, FX604/FX605 FXA53(US), FX701/FX702, FX704/FX705, FX801/FX802 FX804/FX805 || <!--Chipset-->[http://gaugusch.at/vaio/ FX] [http://tech.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/FX210/ Sony Yahoo Group] VIA KT133A KM133 Duron 800Mhz Athlon 1.3Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{partial|boot issue with 2013 kernel VIA [rev 06]}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|ATI Rage Mobility Pro (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|VIA AC97 686b [rev 50] AD1881A Ear phone and Mic}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|UHCI [rev 1a]}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Comments-->Nightly 1st March 2013 || <!--Comments-->booting usb pendrive from Plop Boot Loader floppy (no bios USB boot). Can freeze coz hardware issue or a ram slot problem - no support for iLink firewire VT8363/8365 pci - vt82c686b |- | <!--Name-->Sony Vaio PCG FX100 R505LE || <!--Chipset-->Intel i815 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA Intel 82815 CGC || <!--Audio-->Intel ICH AC97 with ADI AD1881A codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel e100 || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->PCG-FX105 FX105K PCG-FX108 FX108K PCG-FX109 FX109K FX200 FX203/FX203K FX205 FX205K FX209 FX209K FX220 [http://juljas.net/linux/vaiofx240/ FX240] FX250 FX270 FX290 FX301 FX302 FX340 FX370 FX390 FX403 FX503 FX950 |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | Sony VAIO VGN X505VP || Pentium M ULV and Intel 855GM || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Intel 855 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VE}} || {{N/A}} || || 2004 32bit - 0.38 inches at its thinnest point - first laptop to feature a "chiclet" keyboard resemble Chiclets gum - |- | <!--Name-->Sony Z505LE Z505JE || <!--Chipset-->P3 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->n/a || <!--Gfx-->Rage Mobility M1 AGP mach64 || <!--Audio-->no Yamaha DS-XG PCI YMF744 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 8255x based PCI e100 || <!--Wireless-->n/a || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->Panasonic Toughbook CF-18 || <!--Chipset-->Core || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|gma for i915}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 SigmaTel}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|usb2 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL 8139C}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel swap for atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Deadwoods' D02 test || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Panasonic Toughbook CF-29 CF-30 || <!--Chipset-->Core || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA || <!--Audio-->AC97 SigmaTel || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139C || <!--Wireless-->Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->MSI Microstar PR210 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA ATi RS690M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio through speaker / head phones but not hdmi}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8111 8169}} || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR242x AR542x aw-ge780 mini pci-e || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - ENE PCI based SD card with no bios boot option |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Advent 7106 EAA-88 || <!--Chipset-->Pentium M 1.7GHz with 915GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D and 3D tunnel 187 gearbox 67}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 Intel ICH6 with Conexant Cx20468 31 codec playback head phones only}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200BG Fn/F2 replaced with atheros mini pci in small base panel - startup errors in wireless manager}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 14" cheap rubbish sadly - fan noise through audio channel - |- | <!--Name-->Motion Computing LE1600 PC Slate || <!--Chipset-->915 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->915 || <!--Audio-->Intel AC97 SigmaTel STAC9758 9759 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 serial Wacom digitiser not usb |- | <!--Name-->Panasonic Toughbook CF-51 CF-P1 CF-T5 CF-Y2 || <!--Chipset-->945GMS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom || <!--Wireless-->Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Sony Vaio VGN UX1XN UMPC || <!--Chipset-->Core Solo U1500 1.33GHz with 945GM chipset || <!--IDE-->1.8 inch ZIF || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945GMS || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Marvell Yukon 8036 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->32bit only - 4.5 inch screen ultra mobile PC |- | Sony Vaio VGN SR29VN || Intel ICH9 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE legacy}} || {{partial|ATI HD 3400 (VESA only)}} || {{partial|HD Audio (too quiet)}} || {{yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} || {{no|Marvell 8040}} || {{no|Intel 5100}} || Icaros 1.5 || 2007 32bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Wyse XM Class DELL WYSE Xn0m LAPTOP || <!--Chipset-->AMD T-G56N 1.6 1.65Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->decased 2.5in ssd || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d only AMD 6320}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|EHCI 2.0 with NEC uPD720200 USB 3.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek rtl8169 8111E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 93xx}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 1366 x 768 14" - 2 ddr3l slots max 16gb - 19v coax barrel plug psu - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Huawei Matebook D KPL-W00 Honor Magicbook 2018 || <!--Chipset-->2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|AMD Vega 8 use VESA}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{no|3.1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 14inch 1080p - internal battery - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Avita Pura 14 AVITA-PURAR3, AVITA-PURAR5 Hong Kong tech giant Nexstgo || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R3 3200U, R5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 || <!--Gfx-->Vega 3 (R3) 7 (R5) || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit 1,920 x 1,080 14in IPS but dim 194cd/m² and 59.4% of the sRGB colour gamut - 1 ddr4l sodimm slot - keyboard issues keyboard repair swap requires removal of all - components - flexible plastic build - 3 hr battery internal - |- | <!--Name-->Avita Liber V 3200U Ryzen 5 3500U, Avita Admiror 14 R7 3700U (UK only) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - better build but same 3 hr battery - 14" 1080p screen IPS 80% sRGB gamut - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Huawei Matebook D 15 14 AMD KPR-WX9 Honor Magicbook WAQ9AHNR, Huawei NBLK-WAX9X || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 3500U 4700U 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|AMD Vega 8 use VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{Unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3.1 gen 1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel or Realtek || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 2020 - internal 42W later 56W battery - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - f6.5 recessed webcam |- | <!--Name-->Xiaomi Redmibook 16 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 7 4700U with FCH 51 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->SSD 3 || <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon RX Vega 7 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{no|3.1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8821CE wifi || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit metal 16.1 IPS 99% srgb 240 nits - 46whr battery - no webcam - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Medion AG AKOYA® E14304 (MD63780), e14303 (MSN 30031052) (MD62110), Medion Akoya E15303 (lenovo bought 2011) || <!--Chipset-->4300u or Ryzen7 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->Vega 6 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bits 14" to 15"FHD 1080p - 8gb soldered - 19v 65W round port or usb-c charge psu - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Netbook=== [[#top|...to the top]] * One of the better options if re-partitioning of the hard disk is not suitable or wanted is to go with AROS hosted i.e. run a small linux distro and host AROS on top. AROS can exist on a Windows(TM) install as well. See here for more information [https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=779.0 Linux hosted] and [ Windows hosted] with downloads here [http://aros.sourceforge.net/download.php AROS download page] * installation needs an USB optical drive or an USB pen drive (see below) * PC with CD or DVD to install to a USB pendrive for boot purposes on a netbook * SD card sometimes can [ boot] like Dell 2100, EeePC 1001P, ASUS EeePC 900, acer aspire one d150, MSI Wind U100, [http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Audio-Codec-Comparison-Table/520 Audio Codecs] ====Acer Packard Bell Netbooks==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width=100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Aspire One AOA110 (A110) (ZG5) || Intel 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA (2D and 3D) tunnel 99 and gearbox 84 score}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC6628}} || {{Yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} || {{Yes|RTL8101E - rtl8169}} || {{Yes|AR5006}} atheros 5k || AspireOS 1.8 || 2007 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel A13-045N2A 19V2.37A 45W 5.5x1.7mm - |- | Aspire One AOA150 (A150) (ZG5) || Intel 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|ide mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 2D and accelerated 3D with tunnel 99 and gearbox 84.1 result}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC6628}} || {{Yes|uhci and ehci}} || {{Yes|RTL8101E - rtl8169}} || {{Yes|AR5006}} atheros 5k || AspireOS 1.8 || 2007 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel - |- | Aspire One AOD150 D150 (Compal LA-4781P), AOD110 D110 (ssd) || Intel 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|ide legacy}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{Yes|HDAudio with alc272}}] || {{Yes|USB}} || {{No|Atheros AR8121 AR8113 AR8114 l1e}} || {{Maybe|AR5007EG AR5BXB63 works but Broadcom BCM4312 has no support}} || Icaros Desktop 1.3 || 2008 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel - |- | Aspire One AOD250 D250 emachines em250 || 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|ide legacy}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{Yes|alc272 HD Audio}} || {{Yes}} || {{No|AR8132 (L1c)}} || {{No|BCM4312 or Atheros AR5B95}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2009 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire AO532H (Compal LA-5651p) 533H Pineview || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio playback}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|AR8132 (L1c)}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k}} || [http://www.amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=5968 Tested AspireOS June 2011] || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->emachines eM350 NAV51 || <!--Chipset--> with N450 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 3150 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2 || <!--Comments-->Single core 64bit - 160GB HDD 1GB RAM 10.1" LED backlit screen and Webcam - 3 cell li-ion battery for 3 hours usage - |- | <!--Name-->emachines eM355 || <!--Chipset--> with N455 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->64bit support possible - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One 533 || <!--Chipset-->N455 with NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D 0x8086 0xa011}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| ALC272 codec ich7}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8152 v1.1 1c}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4313}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 and AROS One 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - f2 setup - 10.1inch 1024 x 768 - |- | Aspire One AOD255 AOD255e AOD260 AOHAPPY (Compal LA-6221P) || N570 and Nm10 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|SATA}} || {{Maybe|Intel GMA 3150}} || Audio || USB || {{No|Atheros AR8152 V1.1 (1lc)}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313}} || || a little support |- | Aspire One 522 AO522 (Compal LA-7072p) || 1GHz dual C-50 C50 or C-60 C60 + Hudson M1 || {{N/A}} || SATA || AMD 6250 (ATI 9804) or 6290 || ATI SB CX20584 HD Audio || USB || Atheros 8152 v2.0 l1c || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313 or Atheros ath9k}} || || |- | <!--Name-->AAOD270 Aspire One D270 || <!--Chipset-->N2600 Cedarview || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D on Intel GMA 3650}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8169 RTL8101E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4313 but swap for Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit atom - ddr2 so-dimm 2gb max - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One AO532G (Compal LA-6091p) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One D257 (Quanta ZE6) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire One 722 AO722 P1VE6 || <!--Chipset-->AMD C-60 C60 with SB900 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe| use VESA Ati 6290}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec but no Wrestler HDMI output}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros AR8152 v2.0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9485}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One AO721 (Wistron SJV10-NL) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->AO751 AO751H (Quanta ZA3) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot .S || <!--Chipset-->N280 + || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|legacy}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA950 (2D)}}|| <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC272X || <!--USB--> USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Atheros l1e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros 9k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot .SE || <!--Chipset-->N450 + || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA950 (2D) || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC|| <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot .S2 NAV50 || <!--Chipset-->N455 NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel X3150 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC269 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Atheros || <!--Wireless-->Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot M/A || <!--Chipset-->1.2GHz Athlon L110 + RS690E || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy mode? || <!--Gfx-->AMD ATI Radeon Xpress X1270 (VESA only) || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ATI SBx00 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Asus Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Models eeePC] 700 701 2G 4G 8G Surf || Intel 910GML + ICH7 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 900 2D and 3D tunnel 68 gearbox 43 on 701 800x480}} || {{Yes|ALC662 HD Audio}} || {{Yes|UHCI and EHCI}} || {{No|Atheros L2}} || {{Yes| }} AR5007EG (AR2425) - [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=32391&forum=28&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#583583 works] || NB 2013 and 2.1.1 (best) and 2.1.2 || 2007 32bit - power supplies fail due to bad caps issue psu Power Charger 9.5V 2.5A 24W Charger 4.8*1.7MM - |- | [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Models eeePC] 701SD || Intel 910GML + ICH7 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Maybe|Intel GMA 900 (2D)}} || {{Yes|ALC662 HD Audio}} || {{Yes|UHCI and EHCI}} || {{No|Atheros L2}} || {{No|RTL8187SE swap with Atheros 5k}} || AspireOS 1.7 || 2007 32bit - boot issues but does boot with ATA=32bit,nopoll or ATA=nodma,nopoll |- | [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Models eeePC] 900 || Intel 910GML + ICH7 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Maybe|Intel GMA 900 (2D, 3D in some models)}} || {{Yes|ALC662 HD Audio]}} || {{Yes|UHCI and EHCI}} || {{No|Atheros L2}} || {{Maybe|depends on chipset}} AR5007EG (AR2425) - [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=32391&forum=28&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#583583 works] but not RaLink || AspireOS 1.7 || 2008 32bit - boot issues but does boot with ATA=32bit,nopoll or ATA=nodma,nopoll. 900's may need BIOS upgrade to boot usb optical drives. 3D available in some and not all model revisions - |- | eeePC 900A || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (3D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC269}} || {{Yes|USB2.0}} || {{No|Atheros L1e [1969 1026]}} || {{Yes|Atheros 5k AR242x}} || Nightly Build 2012 05-25 || 2009 32bit |- | eeePC 901 1000 || 945GM || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{Yes|ALC269 HD Audio}} || {{Yes|USB}} || {{No|Atheros L1E (AR8121 AR8113 AR8114)}} || {{No|RaLink Device 2860 swap with Atheros 5k}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2009 32bit |- | eeePC Seashell 1000HA 1000HE 1008 1005HA || N280 + Intel GMA950 || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{Yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC269}} || {{Yes|USB}} || {{Maybe|Realtek but not Atheros AR8132 (L1c)}} || {{No|Atheros AR9285 swap with Atheros 5k}} || Aspire OS 1.6 || 2010 32bit |- | <!--Name-->eeePC 1001ha || <!--Chipset-->GMA945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 950 (2D) || <!--Audio-->ALC269 HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Attansic Atheros AR8132 l1c}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RaLink RT3090 swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2010 32bit |- | eeePC 1001P T101MT 1005PX 1005PE 1015PE Pineview 1001PXD || NM10 and N450 N455 CPU || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio}} || {{Yes|USB 2.0}} || {{No|Atheros AR8132 (l1c)}} || {{No|Atheros AR928x 802.11n}} || Icaros 1.3.3 || 2011 64bit |- | EeePC 1015B 1215B || single C-30 C30 or dual C-50 C50 + Hudson M1 || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{partial|AMD 6250 (VESA only)}} || ATI SBx00 HD Audio || USB || {{No|AR8152 v2.0 atl1c}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313 [14e4 4727]}} || || 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Flare X101CH Cedarview || <!--Chipset-->N2600 + N10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 6300 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros l1c 2.0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Flare 1025CE 1225CE || <!--Chipset-->N2800 + N10 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{dunno|Intel GMA 3600}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros l1c 2.0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Dell Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Inspiron 910 Mini 9 PP39S Vostro A90 || GMA945 || {{Maybe|STEC 8G 16G 32G IDE PATA Parallel ATA miniPCIE SSD 50MM / 70MM very slow}} || {{N/A| }} || {{yes|Intel GMA 2D and 3D opengl1}} || {{yes|ALC268 HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB2 boots and works}} || {{yes|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8102E}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4310 and 4312 swap with atheros 5k bx32}} || ICAROS 1.3 but Icaros 2.3 (pci issues), AROS One 2.6 and Tiny AROS (digiclock startup) mouse cursor vanishes || 2009 32bit - 9inch 1024x600 screen - 1 ddr2 sodimm slot max 2gig - 19v 1.58a - 0 boot disk select - cr2032 battery under laptop base cover, while mem 2GB max under base flap - |- | <!--Name-->Mini 10 1010 PP19S || <!--Chipset-->Atom Z520 Z530 Intel US15W Poulsbo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel GMA 500 (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio ALC269 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 RTL8102E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or BCM4312}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - 10.10 inch 16:9, 1366 x 768 glossy - 28whr or 56wHr battery options - |- | [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Dell%20Mini%2010v%20(Inspiron%201011) Mini 10v 1011] [http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/InspironMini10v ] || Intel 950 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|ide legacy mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || HD Audio || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|RTL8102E 8103E}} || {{no|Dell 1397 Wireless}} || || |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron Mini 1018 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode }} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D, no VGA output)}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio head phones only - speaker and micro phone do not work}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|RTL8188CE or AR928X}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.5.1 || <!--Comments--> |- | Latitude 2100 || Intel Atom N270 N280 1.60Ghz GMA 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{Yes|set to IDE in bios as ahci not working || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D and 3D with tunnel 98 and gearbox 84)}} || {{yes|HD Audio with ALC272 codec}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM5764M}} || {{No|Intel 5100 or BCM4322 DW 1510 half height mini pcie use small Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->AspireOS 1.8, Icaros 2.1.1 and AROS One USB 2.4 || 2009 32bit ddr2 sodimm max 2G - [https://sites.google.com/site/arosaspireone/about-aspire-one Webcam and card reader not working] lcd cable over hinge an issue - f12 bios and boot - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude 2110 2120 || <!--Chipset-->N470 1.83Ghz, N455 1.6Ghz, N550 1.5Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|ATA mode in bios not ahci}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 3150 2D only}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with ALC269 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| swap for Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - ddr2 sodimm |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====HP Compaq Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | HP Mini 2133 || VIA C7-M P4M900 / 8237 VX700 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{maybe|VIA Chrome 9 HC (VESA only)}} || VT1708/A HD Audio || USB || {{no|Broadcom Corp NetXtreme BCM5788}} || {{no|Broadcom Corp BCM4312}} || || |- | HP mini 1000 Mi 2140 ks145ut || N270 + 945GM || {{N/A}} || SATA || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D and opengl1 3d)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio (playback tested)}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{no|Broadcom Corp BCM4312 hard blocked}} || || 2011 32Bit - unable to change wifi card |- | <!--Name-->HP Mini 700 702 || <!--Chipset-->N270 + 945GSE || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio IDT 92HD75B (111d:7608, only playback tested)}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom hard locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | Compaq HP Mini 110 110-3112sa || 945GM Express || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{yes|HD Audio IDT STAC 92xx}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{no|Atheros}} || {{no|Broadcom hard blocked Fn+F12}} || || 2011 32bit - unable to change wifi |- | HP Mini 200 210 || 945GM NM10 Express || {{N/A}} || SATA || Intel GMA 950 || HD Audio || USB || RTL8101E RTL8102E || {{no|Broadcom BCM4312 hard locked}} || || |- | HP Mini 311 DM1 (Quanta FP7) || N280 + ION LE || {{N/A}} || SATA || nVidia Geforce ION || HD Audio || USB || eth || {{No|hard locked}} || || 2009 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Wireless--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |} ====Lenovo Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | IdeaPad S9 S9e(3G) S10 S10e(3G) || 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{no|ALC269 or SigmaTel HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Broadcom NetLink BCM5906M}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4312 hard blocked}} || || little support |- | IdeaPad S12 || N270 + Nvidia ION LE MCP79 || {{N/A}} || SATA || nVidia C79 ION [Quadro FX 470M] || ALC269 HD Audio || USB || Broadcom || Intel hard blocked || || Does not boot - cause unknown |- | S10-2 || 945GME and N280 CPU || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{no|ALC269 HD Audio}} || {{yes}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4312 hard blocked}} || Icaros 1.3 || |- | S10-3 || NM410 and N450 CPU || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || {{no|HD Audio ALC269}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|Atheros 9285 or Broadcom BCM4312 hard blocked}} || Icaros 1.3 || |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad 100S || <!--Chipset-->Atom Z36xxx Z37xxx Series SoC || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel || <!--Audio-->Intel SST Audio Device (WDM) || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8723BS hard blocked || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Samsung Netbooks==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | [http://www.amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=616910&topic_id=33755&forum=28#616910 NC10] || 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{partial|SigmaTel HD Audio (playback only)}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{maybe|rtl8169 works but not Marvell 88E8040 sky2}} || {{yes|AR5007EG}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2009 32bit - Nano silver on keyboard and lcd ribbon cable over hinge issues |- | [http://www.sammywiki.com/wiki/Samsung_NC20 NC20] || VIA VX800 || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{maybe|VIA Chrome9 (VESA only)}} || ALC272 GR (VT1708A) HD Audio || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{yes|Atheros AR5001}} || || 2009 32bit - little support |- | N110 N120 || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{yes|ALC272 HD Audio or ALC6628}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{no|Realtek rtl8187}} || || 2009 32bit - some support - Namuga 1.3M Webcam none |- | N130 || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{yes|SATA in IDE mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 2D and opengl 1.x 99.5 tunnel 99 gearbox}} || {{yes|Intel HD with ALC272 ALC269 codec playback}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|RTL 8169.device - 8101e 8102e}} || {{no|rtl 8192se rtl8187 too small an area to swap for atheros 5k}} || || 2009 32bit - 10.x inch 1024 x 600 - Namuga 1.3M Webcam - front slide power on and f2 setup bios - keyboard 17.7mm Pitch is made with Silver Nano (Anti-Bacterial) tech - small touchpad - 1 ddr2 2rx16 sodimm slot 2G max - 44Wh |- | <!--Name-->Go NP-N310 || <!--Chipset-->N270 + 945GME || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio ALC6628}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|Atheros5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2010 32bit - N280 version changed specs |- | N510 || N270 euro N280 uk + ION MCP79 || {{N/A}} || SATA || nVidia C79 ION [Quadro FX 470M] || HD Audio || USB || Marvell 88E8040 || Realtek 8192E || || Does not boot - cause unknown |- | <!--Name-->NC110 Axx || <!--Chipset-->NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Sata || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC269 codec A9M22Q2 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4313 or Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - |- | NF210 Pineview || n455 or n550 + N10 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{maybe|Intel GMA 3150 (needs retesting, VESA works)}} || {{yes|HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || Wireless || || 2011 64bit - some support |- | NP N145 Plus || n450 + NM10 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D, no VGA output)}} || {{yes|Realtek HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{no|Atheros AR9285}} || || 2010 some support but often the trackpad does not work |- | <!--Name-->NS310 NP-NS310-A03UK || <!--Chipset-->N570 with NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use Vesa 2d }} || <!--Audio-->{{yes| ich7}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 realtek 810xe }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|bcm4313 }} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit Atom N570 or 1.5 GHz Intel Atom N550 dual core processor, 1 DDR3 sodimm slot memory, a 250GB hard drive, and a 10.1 inch, 1024 x 600 pixel 10.1" W7St - 2300mAh short life - |- | <!--Name-->[https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Samsung_N150 N150] NB30 || <!--Chipset-->MN10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8040}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285 or Realtek 8192E}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->a little support |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.kruedewagen.de/wiki/index.php/Samsung_N220 N210 N220] N230 || <!--Chipset-->N450 + NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC269 || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->a little |- | <!--Name-->NC110 Pxx Cedarview || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{dunno|Intel GMA 3600}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6000g}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Toshiba Netbooks==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->NB100 || <!--Chipset-->945GM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|legacy}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC262 HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|AR5001}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 32bit - some support |- | <!--Name-->Mini NB200 series NB205 || <!--Chipset-->N280 + GSE945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|IDE legacy mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->ALC272 HD Audio || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2009 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->Mini 300 series NB305 || <!--Chipset-->N455 with NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 3150 (2D) || <!--Audio-->ALC272 HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->{{no|AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Mini 500 series NB505 NB520 NB550-10v || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 3150 (2D) || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8176 RTL 8188CE || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit - |- | [http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Toshiba-NB550D-AMD-Fusion-Netbook.46551.0.html Mini NB550D 10G] 108 (c30) 109 (c50) || C-50 + M1 || {{N/A}} || SATA || AMD 6250 (VESA only) || HD Audio || USB || Realtek 8111e rtl8169 || Atheros 9k || || 2011 64bit Realtek SD card reader |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Misc Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="30%" |Comments |- | Cammy's A1600 || GME945 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{yes|Intel GMA950 (2D)}} || {{yes|HD Audio playback}} || {{yes}} || {{no|JMC 250/260}} || Wireless || Icaros 1.2.4 || |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Mini Ui 3520 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 945 || <!--ACPI--> || <!--SATA-->{{yes}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->ALC269 HD Audio || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|AR5001}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->good |- | Guillemot Hercules eCafe EC-900 H60G-IA], Mitac MiStation and Pioneer Computers Dreambook Light U11 IL1 || Intel 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{yes|Intel GMA950 (2D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio (playback only)}} || {{yes|uhci and ehci}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|RAlink RT2860}} || || Slowly gaining support |- | <!--Name-->Hannspree Hannsnote SN10E2 24 48 || <!--Chipset-->N450 + NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->IDE legacy mode || <!--Gfx-->Pineview Intel (2D) || <!--Audio-->ALC HD Audio || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Atheros l1c || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9285 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion--> |- | MSI Wind U90/U100 || GME945 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{partial|HD Audio ALC888s (playback only?)}} || {{yes|uhci 1.1 and ehci 2.0}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|RaLink RT2860 RT2700E or rtl8187se (u100x)}} || Icaros 1.3 || |- | Advent 4211 || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || Intel GMA950 (2D) || ALC HD Audio || USB || rtl8169 || {{no|Intel 3945 ABG}} || || MSI U100 clone |- | <!--Name-->Hannspree Hannsnote SN10E1 || <!--Chipset-->N270 + GMA945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->ALC HD Audio || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E RTL8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|RaLink RT2860}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->MSI U100 clone |- | <!--Name--> Vaio VGN-P11Z | <!--Chipset--> | <!--IDE--> {{dunno}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{Partial|Intel (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Marvell}} | <!--Wireless--> {{no|Atheros AR928X}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 2.0.3 | <!--Comments--> Rarely boots! |- | <!--Name-->Sony VPC-W11S1E | <!--Chipset-->N280 with 945GSE | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA950 - hdmi}} | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with realtek codec | <!--USB-->3 USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8132}} | <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285 swap with 5k}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit - 10.1" 1366 x 768 glossy - 3hr battery life - |- | <!--Name-->Archos 10 Netbook || <!--Chipset-->Atom with ICH7 NM10 945GSE || <!--IDE-->{{No }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC662 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI Wind U135 DX MS-N014 || <!--Chipset-->Intel N455 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D only accelerated}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ALC662 rev 1}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|RTL}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR 9K}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->needs noacpi notls added to grub boot line to start up |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Desktop Systems=== [[#top|...to the top]] Most Intel Atom and equivalent AMD Fusion CPUs / APUs are faster than Intel P3s but still some way short of P4 or Dual Core performance. {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" | <!--OK-->{{Yes|'''Works well'''}} || <!--May work-->{{Maybe|'''Works a little'''}} || <!--Not working-->{{No|'''Does not work'''}} || <!--Not applicable-->{{N/A|'''N/A not applicable'''}} |- |} ====Acer==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.acer.com/ac/en/ID/content/support-product/486;-; Veriton X270 VTX270] Intel Core 2 Duo ED7400C or Pentium dual-core UD7600C with 630i | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d Nvidia 7100 VGA and HDMI connections}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe| with realtek codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|4 rear and 5 front}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe| nForce}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 dvd | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit capable but would not fully boot, DHCP address timeout too short and failed often. Put in a third party NIC, worked - 1 PCI Express x16 slot and a free PCI x1 slot - internal thin long psu with 12pin - |- | <!--Name--> Imedia S1710 with Intel Dual Core E5200 | <!--IDE--> {{Yes|SATA/AHCI}} | <!--SATA--> {{Maybe|Native IDE}} | <!--Gfx--> {{Yes|Nvidia nForce 7100}} | <!--Audio--> {{Yes|Nvidia MCP73}} | <!--USB--> {{Yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{No|NVIDIA MCP73 Ethernet}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 14-09-2023, AROS One 2.3 | <!--Comments--> 2009 64-bit - Boot over USB not working on front - 2 DDR2 dual channel max 8GB - DEL for entering Bios - F12 for boot menu - Bus weird, could be reason for Ethernet issue |- | <!--Name-->Acer Revo AR1600, R1600 AR3600, R3600 Packard Bell iMax Mini, ACER Veriton N260G N270G slim nettop subcompact | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Native IDE mode, '''when it works''' boots}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Nvidia ION GeForce 9300M - nouveau 3d - '''when it boots''' 400 fps in shell'ed gearbox, 278 in tunnel, 42 in teapot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with alc662 codec but nothing from HDMI audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Nvidia USB boot usb2 stick issues and slower with usb3 drives}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|MCP79 nForce}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 Intel Atom 230 N280 - 20cm/8" high 1 ltr noisy fan - very often boot stuck around ehciInit - DEL setup F12 boot options - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4GB - 19v special barrel size 5.5mm/1.7mm psu - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4GB - atheros 5k AR5BXB63 wifi - |- | <!--Name-->Revo AR3610 R3610 3610 Atom 330 nettop subcompact dual core | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Native IDE mode, '''when it works''' boots}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Nvidia ION GeForce 9400M LE MCP79MX - nouveau 3d - '''when it boots''' 400 fps in shell'ed gearbox, 278 in tunnel, 42 in teapot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with Realtek alc662 rev1 alc662-hd later ALC885 codec but nothing from HDMI audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Nvidia USB with 1% chance boot with usb2 sticks, more issues with usb3 drives}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|RTL 8211CL MCP79 nForce}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 1.5, 1.6 and 2.4 usb | <!--Comments-->2010 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 20cm/8" high 1 ltr noisy fan - boot often stuck around ehciInit, SATA, etc try ATA=off, non usb hub keyboard, - DEL bios setup, F12 BBS POPUP/drive boot - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4GB - 19v barrel psu with smaller inner pin size 5.5mm/1.7mm - replace wifi RT3090 ver c (linux) with atheros 5k - |- | <!--Name-->REVO AR3700 R3700 3700 Atom D525 dual core - ACER Veriton N282G *one long beep followed by two short, bios damaged *looping one long two short, a video card fault *two short beeps... CMOS damaged *got one long and one short beep... board error? | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE ready in Bios}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia ION2 GT218 ION vga fine '''but''' hdmi fussy over display used - nouveau 2d & 3d gearbox 404 tunnel 292 teapot 48}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDA Intel with Realtek ALC662 rev1 codec, head phones only but nothing from NVidia HDMI}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|Intel® NM10 Express (NM10 is basically an ICH7 with a die shrink and IDE removed) USB boots usb, installs usb, accesses ok}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169 8111g}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS one USB 1.5 and 1.6 | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 20cm/8" high 1 ltr noisy fan - early 2 ddr2 sodimm slots but later 2 ddr3 sodimm slots 1Rx8 max 4GB - 19v barrel psu thinner pin - replace wifi RT3090 ver d with atheros 5k mini pci-e - ACPI Suspend Mode = S1, S3 (STR), S4 - Power on PCIe * Known Acer issue, Boot into bios, set bios to UEFI and reboot, set bios back to defaults and reboot, blank display, repair with reflash of 8 pin Winbond W25Q socketed bios chip with ch341a using 2011/09/19 P01.B0L, 2011/05/09 P01.A4, 2011/05/03 P01.A3L, 2010/12/27 P01.A2L, 2010/12/27 P01.A2 amiboot.rom - |- | <!--Name-->Revo 70 (RL70) with or without dvdrw | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->6320 or 6310 | <!--Audio-->HD audio ALC662-VCO-GR codec | <!--USB-->USB2, 1.1 Hudson D1 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD E450 1.65GHz - 19v 65w barrel psu thinner inner pin - 2 DDR3L single channel max 4GB - replace wifi RT3090 ver d with atheros 5k mini pci-e - 1lr or 1.5 ltr dvdrw case 209.89 mm, (D) 209.89 mm, (H) 35.35 mm - del enter bios - |- |} ====Asus==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->EEEbox B202 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA950 | <!--Audio-->Intel Azalia HDaudio with Realtek ALC662 or ALC888-GR CODEC | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 or JM250 | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros | <!--Comments-->internal 3 types of wifi chipset not supported |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Dell==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name--> Precision 340 | <!--IDE--> {{yes}} | <!--SATA--> {{n/a}} | <!--Gfx--> {{n/a}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|Intel AC97}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 1.1 (UHCI)}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|3Com}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Dimension 2400 | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 82845GL Brookdale G/GE (VESA 640x480 by 16)}} | <!--Audio-->{{Unk|AC97 with ADI codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|UHCI EHCI}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom 440x 4401}} | <!--Test Distro-->[http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=832495 Icaros 1.4] | <!--Comments-->Graphics chipset is capable of higher resolution. |- | <!--Name-->Dimension 4600 | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{dunno}} | <!--Gfx-->{{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 (use rear black port)}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|UHCI/EHCI}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Intel PRO/100}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5.2 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 170L | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|Intel AC97}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|Intel PRO/100}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex GX260 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|Intel AC97}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Intel PRO/1000}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | Optiplex GX270 | {{yes|Working}} | {{partial|IDE mode}} | {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | {{yes|Intel AC97}} | {{yes|USB 2.0}} | {{no|Intel PRO/1000}} | Icaros 1.5.2 | <!--Comments--> |- | Optiplex GX280 | {{yes|Working}} | {{partial|IDE mode}} | {{maybe|Intel GMA (only VESA tested)}} | {{yes|Intel AC97}} | {{yes|USB 2.0}} | {{no|Broadcom}} | Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex GX520 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{yes|Intel GMA}} | <!--Audio--> {{partial|Intel AC97 (no line-out)}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 745 | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel GMA (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{partial|HD Audio (no volume control)}} | <!--USB--> {{partial|Only keyboard mouse (legacy mode)}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 755 | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel GMA (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Intel Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.5.1 | <!--Comments--> Around 25 second delay in booting from USB |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 990 | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|non-RAID mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel HD (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Intel Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 360 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|ordinary boot gives VGA mode only - VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|HD Audio (Analog Devices ID 194a)}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->Aspire Xenon | <!--Comments-->poor support |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse Vx0 (V90 V30), Vx0L (V10L V90L), Vx0LE (V30LE V90LE) from VIA C7 800GHz to Eden 1.2GHz | <!--IDE-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d for S3 UniChrome Pro}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 VIA VT8233A with ?? codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 back and 1 front USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|early models work but later VT6102-3 do not}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.2 | <!--Comments-->2006 to 2009 32bit - 12V 4A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm - 1 sodimm DDR 333MHz SO-DIMM later DDR2 - early V90s do seem to have a reliability problem - |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.poppedinmyhead.com/2021/01/wyse-cx0-thin-client-notes-experiences.html Dell Wyse Cx0] C00LE, C10LE, C30LE, C50LE, C90LE, C90LE7, C90LEW VIA C7 Eden 1GHz | <!--IDE-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d VX855 VX875 Chrome 9}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|some VIA VT8237A VT8251 HDA with ?? codec work}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 outside 2 inside USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|VT6120 VT6121 VT6122 Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2010 to 2013 32bit - [https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=815.0 boots and works] - 12V 2.5A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm - 1 sodimm ddr2 - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Dell RxxL Rx0L thin client *R00L Cloud PC of Wyse WSM *R10L Wyse Thin OS *R50L Suse Linux Enterprise *R90L Win XP Embedded *R90LW Win Embedded Standard 2009 *R90L7 Win Embedded Standard 7 | <!--IDE-->128Mb IDE or 1GB | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|SATA Hyperdisk}} | <!--Gfx-->AMD 690E RS690M Radeon Xpress 1200 1250 1270 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 usb2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit AMD Sempron™ 210U SMG210UOAX3DVE 1.5GHz SB600, up to 4GB single slot 240-pin DDR2 DIMM, 19v barrel psu, DEL key bios - Late 2012 2 data sockets added but only CN18 be used with two white sockets (CN13 & CN15) can used to power the SATA device "4-pin Micro JST 1.25mm |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 390 sff small form factor - mt mini tower desktop - dt full desktop | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|1 pci-e}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|realtek}} | <!--Test Distro-->aros one 1.6 usb | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit dual i3 2xxx - kettle iec plug psu cable - add nvidia gf218 gfx - error code 3 mobo or cpu - |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 3010 sff small form factor | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|1 pci-e}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom 57XX}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit dual i3 3xxx - kettle iec plug psu cable - |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 7010 sff small form factor | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|1 pci-e}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom or Intel 825xx}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit dual i3 3xxx Q77 - kettle iec plug psu cable - add pci-e ethernet and nvidia gf218 gfx - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 5010 thin client ThinOS D class (D10D D00D D00DX, Dx0D), PCoIP (D10DP) or D90D7, 5040 *username: Administrator, admin, [blank] *password: Fireport, DellCCCvdi, rappot, Wyse#123, Administrator, administrator, r@p8p0r+ | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE mode may need 30cm ext cable as small area for half-slim sata ssd - decased new ssd??}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d 1400x1050 HD6250E IGP by using DVI to hdmi cable and 1 display port, no hdmi port}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD 6.34 audio chipset detected but codec alc269 working from one case speaker - none if v6.29 used}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|most 5010 have 4 USB 2.0 but D90Q7 has 2 USB3 instead}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8168 8169 - rev 1.?? 8111? - rev 1.91 8111E}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit slow AMD G-T44R 1.2Ghz later G-T48E 1.4Ghz Dual Bobcat Brazos BGA413 - Del for BIOS - p key to select boot with noacpi - single DDR3 sodimm slot max 4Gb, (8Gb hynix 2rx8 ddr3l)? (remove small board to upgrade) - passive no fan - 15cm/6" small 1ltr case and lack of expansion options - PA16 19v barrel psu Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 7010 DTS thin client (Z class Zx0D) *2011 Zx0 Z90D7 2GF/2GR *2013 Z10D *2014 Z50D 2GF/2GR *2012 Cisco VXC 6000 CVXC-6215-K9 white | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|Bios set Sata mode to IDE mode and grub boot add 'noacpi' for half slim sata2 ssd or/with 50cm sata ext cable}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d HD6310 6320 Terascale 2 through DVI and DP 1.1a - no 3d support r600 and no hdmi port}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio 6.34 detected but ALC269VB codec works on the one case speaker only}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|2.0 works but NEC 720200 3.0 not detected but sometimes works like 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111e 8111F}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 and Aros One 1.5, 1.9 and 2.3 usb | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 slow cores AMD G-t52R 1.5GHz later G-T56N 1.65 GHz Dual with A50M FCH - 20cm/8" high 1.5ltr larger fanless black plastic case with metal ventilated box inside - 2 desktop DIMM slots max 16GB - miniPCIe CN14 no msata ssd support in bios - PA-16 19v external psu Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm - 2 40cm SMA female WiFi Antenna to IPEX IPX u.fl Ufl Cable pigtail needed - does not like uefi boot devices - |- | <!--Name-->Wyse 7020 Thin Client * 2013 Quad-core AMD GX-420CA 2.0 GHz (25W) - * 2018 Zx0Q Quad-core AMD GX-415GA 1.5 GHz (15W) with Quad display 3dp and 1dvi | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 sata port | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d only for AMD Radeon HD8400E radeonsi (dual display) or AMD Radeon HD 8330E IGP with AMD Radeon E6240 Seymour E6460 (quad display), no hdmi ports}} | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 x USB2.0 works but 2 USB3 issues | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 quad eKabini Jaguar cores - two SODIMM sockets layered in centre of mobo DDR3L RAM - Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm ac psu 9mm plug is too short but 14mm length is fine - 15cm/6" high smaller 1ltr case and lack of expansion options - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse Dx0Q (5020) D90Q8 NJXG4 AMD G-Series | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 sata port | <!--Gfx-->HD 8330E | <!--Audio--> with Realtek codec | <!--USB-->4 x USB2.0 works but 2 USB3 issues | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 Quad-core AMD GX-415GA 1.5 GHz - 2 layered near edge of mobo 204-pin DDR3L SODIMM (bottom one tricky to insert) - 19v Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm - passive no fan - 15cm/6" high smaller 1ltr case and lack of expansion options |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 5060 N07D thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE bios mode for sata2 port}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Vesa 2d - AMD R5E GCN2 IGP Sea Islands thru dp1 with an hdmi adapter no output thru dp2 - no hdmi dvi ports}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio with Realtek ALC231 codec head phones only}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|4 x USB2.0 works but 2 USB3 issues}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 realtek 8169 8111h}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 1.6 usb | <!--Comments-->2017 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 quad GX-424CC 19.5v external psu - CN-0Y62H1 mobo with 2 layered ddr3l 16Gb max sodimm slots at edge of mobo, bottom 0 one blocking - passive no fan so quiet - 15cm/6" high smaller 1ltr case and lack of expansion options - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Wyse 3040 (N10D) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Intel | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 4c4t Intel Cherry Trail x5 Z-8350 (1.44 GHz Quad) - two versions, one is 5V-3A, the other is 12V-2A - 2 GB DDR3L 1600 MHz, 8 GB or 16 GB eMMC flash chip, all soldered down - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Fujitsu Siemens==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="15%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Scenic [http://uk.ts.fujitsu.com/rl/servicesupport/techsupport/ProfessionalPC/Scenic/ScenicE/ScenicE.htm E600] (compact desktop) | | | {{partial|VESA only}} | {{yes|AC97}} | | {{no|Intel PRO/1000}} | {{dunno}} | Nice small, silent PC with good AROS support. |- | Scenic T i845 | {{dunno}} | {{n/a}} | {{n/a}} | {{dunno|Intel AC97}} | {{dunno|UHCI}} | {{dunno|Intel PRO/100}} | Icaros 1.5.2 | AROS does not boot |- | <!--Name-->Futro S200 S210 S220 and later S300 | <!--IDE-->{{yes| compactflash CF card max ??}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 315PRO PCI/AGP }} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 via }} | <!--USB-->{{unk|via uhci and ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|via VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74) }} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - TR5670 Rev 1.4 mother with Transmeta TM5800 cpu - pci socket - single SODIMM socket for DDR memory PC2700S max 512MB - |- | <!--Name-->Futro S400 | <!--IDE-->{{yes| but swap with compactflash CF card already with AROS installed}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS741CX }} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 SiS7018}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|sis uhci and ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|rtl8169 }} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - AMD Geode NX1500 1GHz gets hot - SiS 963L / SiS 741CX chipset - 12V 4.2A 4-pin (DP-003-R) psu - single SODIMM socket for DDR PC2700S max 1G - large case 246 x 48 x 177cms torx screws - pci socket - |- | <!--Name-->FUJITSU Futro S700 and S900 Thin Client (based on mini-ITX motherboard D3003-A12, D3003-C1 lesser variant of [https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/Futro/s900/TechNotes_V3.1_Mini-ITX_D3003-S.pdf D3003-S]) *G-T56N 1.65GHz *G-T40N 1.00GHz *G-T44R 1.20GHz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 sata data socket but mSata | <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 6320, HD 6250, HD 6290 dvi or displayport (DP runs higher) | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->{{yes|two USB2 front sockets and four on the rear}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit AMD slow atom-like and fanless - 20V 2A psu 5.5mm/2.1mm coax (S900) - mSATA 1GB-16GB - 2 DDR3L SODIMM sockets max 8GB tricky to run 1333 MHz on the Futro S900 - proprietary X2 PCI-e - 1 PCI socket but need a right-angle adaptor - |- | <!--Name-->esprimo p420 e85 desktop case | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->Intel 4600 or old Geforce in pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio realtek alc671 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - 16 pin special psu - |- | <!--Name-->esprimo E420 e85+ SFF case | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->Intel 4600 or low profile pci-e card | <!--Audio-->HDAudio realtek alc671 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - 16ish pin special psu - hd under front metal bracket, take front cover off first with 3 tabs - 3 slim pci-e slots - |- | <!--Name-->Futro S520 AMD dual 1.0Ghz codenamed "Steppe Eagle" * GX-210HA @ 1.0GHz * GX-212ZC @ 1.2GHz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->no sata - 4Gb or 16Gb flash memory soldered to the board | <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon HD 8210E (GX210HA) or AMD Radeon R1E (GX212ZC) | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111e | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - smaller than ITX 160mm x 160mm Fujitsu D3314-A11 - 19V 3.4A PSU standard 5.5mm/2.1mm coax plug - 1 ddr3 sodimm slot - |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu Futro S720 ThinClient D3313-B13 D3313-F *2014 64bit AMD GX-217GA 1.65GHz VFY:S0720P8009FR VFY:S0720P8008DE VFY:S0720P4009GB *2015 64bit AMD GX-222GC 2.20GHz VFY:S0720P702BDE VFY:S0720P702BFR all begin VFY:S0720P and end two digit country code | <!--IDE--> {{N/A|}} | <!--SATA--> {{Yes|up to 2 Sata-cable-connector with space in casing so normal SSD/HDD over Sata was running very well on AHCI and IDE-Mode and 2242 mSata}} | <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|use VESA 2D for AMD Radeon HD 8280E IGP ( islands) or later R5E IGP ( islands)}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|HDAudio ALC671 codec partially working, external audio speaker}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|4 rear USB 2.0 but not front 2 USB 3.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8169}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB 2.0 | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit supports AVX and SSE 4.1 - 1 ddr3 Sodimm slot max 8Gb - 19V-20V 2A 5.5mm/2.5mm coax - D3313-B13 stripped down Mini-ITX mobo D3313-S1/-S2/-S3 (eKabini) D3313-S4/-S5/-S6 - SATA data socket can be located under the fins of the cpu heatsink is fanless - mPCIe socket for wireless card - |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu FUTRO S920 D3313-E D3313-G *2016 AMD GX-222GC SOC 2.20GHz Dual *2017 AMD G-Series GX-415GA (1.50 GHz, Quad Core, 2 MB, AMD Radeon™ HD 8330E) *2017 AMD G-Series GX-424CC 2.40 GHz Quad | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{yes|2242 mSata and 1 Sata-cable-connector with space in casing so normal SSD/HDD over Sata possible}} | <!--Gfx--> {{yes|use VESA 2D for Radeon R5E GCN2/3 IGP}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|HDAudio ALC671 codec partially working}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|4 rear USB 2.0, front 2 USB 3.1 downgradable to 2.0 in BIOS setting}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8169}} | <!--Test Distro--> AROS One USB 2.4 | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 so dimm slot with max of 8 GB - 19v barrel psu 5.5mm 2.5mm - SATA data socket can be located under the fins of the heatsink - mPCIe a e keyed socket for wireless card - propetary X2 connector with official raizer to X1 connector - almost silent background noise, not affecting sound quality in any way |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu Thin Client Futro S5011 S7011 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->{{No|Vesa 2D for AMD Vega 3 on 2 dp 1.4}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ALC623 codec}} | <!--USB-->USB3 USB 3.2 Gen 2 front and 3 usb2 rear | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - AMD Ryzen Dual Core R1305G or R1505G 1ltr case - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - TPM 2.0 - 19v 3.42amp round coax or usb-c 20c 3.25a external psu - |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu FUTRO S9011 Thin Client VFY:S9011THU1EIN || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{No|Vesa 2D for AMD Vega 3 on 2 dp 1.4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ALC623 codec}} || <!--USB-->USB3 USB 3.2 Gen 2 front and 3 usb2 rear || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit Ryzen Embedded R1606G - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - TPM 2.0 - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ====HP Compaq==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Compaq presario 7360 | <!--IDE-->{{yes|Working}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|AC97 via}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|issues}} | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Compaq EP Series 6400/10 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{N/A}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|ISA}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 1.1}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{N/A}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Evo D510 | {{yes|Working}} | {{N/A}} | {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | {{yes|AC97}} | {{yes|Working}} | {{yes|Intel PRO/100}} | Icaros 1.5 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Compaq DX2000 MT | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel Extreme 2 (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|detects AC97 but no support for ADI AD1888 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|OHCI/EHCI }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82526EZ e1000}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.51 | <!--Comments-->boots ok but no audio |- | <!--Name-->Compaq DX 2200 | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200] (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{dunno|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|OHCI/EHCI issues }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments-->issues |- | <!--Name--> d230 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|UDMA}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{partial|Intel AC97 (speaker and headphones only, no line-out)}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.4.5 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->HP Pavilion a220n || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|VESA 1024x768 on nVidia GF4 MX with 64MB shared video ram}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ALC650 AC'97 comp.}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8201BL 10/100 LAN}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.5|| <!--Comments-->2004 32bit athlon xp 2600+ Socket 462 / Socket A - 2 dimm ddr pc2700 - |- | <!--Name-->t500 | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|FX5200 (2D; 3D with older driver)}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 ICH4 ALC658D}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|UHCI/EHCI}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8101L 8139}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2012-09-22 | <!--Comments-->2004 |- | <!--Name-->DC7700 | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 2D}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes| ICH8}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|82566DM e1000e}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2013-??-?? | <!--Comments-->2006 Some support at low cost |- | <!--Name-->HP dc 7600 CMT | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ACL 260}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO/1000 GT}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP t5000 thin client series t5500 t5510 t5515 PC538A or PC542A t5700 t5710 Transmeta Crusoe Code Morphing TM 5400 5600 800Mhz | <!--IDE-->128mb to 512MB | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->Ati Radeon 7000M | <!--Audio-->VIA with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|Issues}} | <!--Ethernet-->VIA Rhine 2 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2006 32bit - ddr max 1GB - F10 setup - all t51xx and some t55xx units will not include a SODIMM slot - |- | <!--Name-->HP t5000 thin client series CN700 *HSTNC-002L-TC t5135, t5530 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d 128Mb Via S3 1600 x 1200 32-bit colour | <!--Audio-->AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102 VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit t5135 appears identical to the t5530 except the CPU VIA Esther 400 MHz - RAM 64Mb (? max) - 8 x USB2.0 - 12V 3.33A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm |- | <!--Name-->HP t5720, t5725 HSTNC-001L-TC | <!--IDE-->{{unk| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d SiS741GX 2048 x 1536 32-bit colour | <!--Audio-->AC97 SiS SiS7012 AC'97 | <!--USB-->6 x USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102 VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 8d) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit AMD Geode NX1500 1GHz socketed - RAM 512MB or 1GB, 256MB, 512MB or 1GB - 12V psu - sis DDMA support - custom 1.13 BIOS - pci low profile - |- | <!--Name-->t5000 series VX800 HSTNC-004-TC t5145, t5540, t5545, t5630 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d VIA Chrome9 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio VIA | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|VT6120 VT6121 VT6122 Gigabit (rev 82)}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit - RAM 64Mb (? max) - 8 x USB2.0 - 12V 4.16A Coax: 5.5mm/2.1mm - |- | <!--Name-->t5730w HSTNC-003-TC t5730 | <!--IDE-->{{n/a|ATA 44pin DOM Flash}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d ATI Radeon X1250 2048 x 1536 no 3D | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{Yes|6 x USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 5707M tg3 10/100/1000}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 64bit AMD Sempron 2100+ 1GHz - 1 slot of ddr2 sodimm (Max 2GB) - 12V 4.16A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm - F10 enter bios F12 boot devices - |- | <!--Name-->HSTNC-005-TC gt7720, gt7725 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d AMD RS780G HD 3200 - 2560 x 1600 DVI-D & DVI-H | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->8 x USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5787M}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit AMD Turion Dual Core CPU 2.3GHz - 1 DDR2 200-pin SODIMM - 19V 4.16A Coax 7.4mm/5.0mm (gt7725) - |- | <!--Name-->HP t5740 Thin Client HSTNC-006-TC t5740, t5745, st5742 | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->1 port | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Intel CL40 VGA and DisplayPort connectors}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with IDT codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM57780 Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly build and Icaros | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit Atom N280 - F10 on power up to get into the BIOS screens. F12 brings up the boot options - hp 19V one with a coax connector, outer diameter 4.8mm with inner to be 1.7mm to 1.4mm - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots max 3gb due to 32bit - 1 pci-e slot completely non standard - |- | <!--Name-->t5000 series HSTNC-012-TC VIA Nano u3500 VX900 *t5550 512MB/1GB Windows CE6 R3 *t5565 1GB/1GB HP ThinPro *t5570 2GB/1GB WES 2009 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d VIA ChromotionHD 2.0 GPU Chrome9 | <!--Audio-->VIA 9170 VT1708S codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM57780 Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->32bit - 1 sodimm - 19V 3.42A supply connector standard yellow-tip coax plug 4.8mm/1.8mm "Standard HP Compaq DC Power Plug 4.8mm x 1.5mm / 1.7mm Yellow Tip Connector - |- | <!--Name-->HP t510 Via Eden X2 U4200 HSTNC-012-TC shares features with t5570e, t5565z | <!--IDE-->2G ATA Flash DOM | <!--SATA-->one | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d for Chrome9 VIA ChromotionHD 2.0 gfx}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|VIA VT8237A VT8251 HDA with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|6 USB2 }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit - one slot ddr3 sodimm max 4GB - 19V 3.42A Coax 4.8mm/1.8mm - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP T610 Thin Client and thicker PLUS version AMD G-T56N A55E | <!--IDE-->{{Maybe|}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 6320 1 dp port 1 dvi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->two USB2 on the front, two USB2 and two USB 3 ports on the rear | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM57780}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 64bit does not support AVX SSE 4.1 - 2 204-pin DDR3 1600MHz SODIMMs PC3-12800 under motherboard via removable panel - 19.5V 3A Coax male 7.4mm/5.0mm + centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP T420 Thin Client *AMD Embedded G-Series GX-209JA SOC (1 GHz, 2 cores) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 8180 dvi vga | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->2 front 2 rear USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2015 64bit supports AVX SSE 4.1 - soldered in place 2GB DDR3 - smaller than usual 19.5V 2.31A Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - usb stick internal for storage - E15 BBR - |- | <!--Name-->HP t520 TPC-W016 *AMD GX-212JC 1.2Ghz (2 core) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 m.2 mounting holes for 2242 and 2260 SSDs SATA (not NVME) | <!--Gfx-->Radeon R2E GCN2 IGP Sea Islands | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->2 USB3 front, 4 USB2 back | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 2017 64 bit supports AVX SSE 4.1 - 1 204-pin DDR3 SODIMM - 19.5V 3.33A 7.4mm Coax with central pin |- | <!--Name-->HP t620 TPC-I004-TC and t620 PLUS (PRO wider version) TPC-I020-TC *AMD G-Series GX-217GA 2 core APU 1.65GHz (65W) *AMD GX-415GA (65W) *AMD GX-420CA SOC (Plus 85W) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->single M.2 2280 socket sata3, mSATA socket removed end of 2014, | <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 8280E graphics 8330E Islands GCN2 IGP - 2 dp ports no dvi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->4 front, 2 back, 1 inside limited space | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit supports AVX SSE 4.1 - 2 DDR3L SODIMMs side by side - mSATA ssd and M.2 SSD are M1.6 screws, M2.0 screws used on most SSDs - 19.5V 3.33A Coax male 7.4mm 5mm with centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP T530 *AMD GX-215JJ (2 core) 1.5GHz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 m.2 sata ssd up to 2280 | <!--Gfx-->Radeon R2E | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->1 USB3.1, 1 usb-c front, 4 USB2 back | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2015 64 bit does support AVX SSE 4.1 - 1 204-pin DDR4 SODIMM - smaller 19.5V 2.31A Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP T730 Wider "Thin" Client TPC-I018-TC Pixar RX-427BB (2c4t) - no display and fans blowing full speed caused by '''disabling internal gpu in bios''' flash L43_0116.bin onto smc MX25L6473F (3.3V 8-PIN SOP (200mil) SPI 25xx) ([https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubleshooting-hardware-devices-and-electronics-theory/troubleshooting-desktop-motherboards-graphics-cards-and-pc-peripherals/bios-schematic-requests/96303-hp-t730-password-locked-bios in the rom rcvry socket under a delicate thin narrow surface flap]) with ch341a alike switchable from 5v, 3.3v to 1.8v | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{partial|Storage bios option to IDE and not AHCI to prevent constant install error messages to DH0: - add noacpi to end of grub boot line - 1 M.2 SATA slot (Key B+M) up to 2280 with T8 torx secure stub}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use VESA for non-vulkan Radeon R7 GCN 2 UVD4.2 Sea Islands with 4 dp outs '''but too easy bricking''' if swapping with 1 PCIe 3.0 x8 slot 30W slim factor low profile 8400gs gt210 nvs295 nvs310 gt1030}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDaudio 6.34 realtek alc221 codec thru case speaker only}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|'''Works''' for 4 USB2 in the back with 2 in the front but '''not''' for 2 USB3 ports on front and 1 more internal (not bootable)}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111HSH-CG set up first in Prefs/Network}} | <!--Test Distro-->boots with most AROS One 32bit USB with added noacpi added to grub boot - Latest distros can select grub boot options with Aros One 64bit USB and Aros One USB 2.8 but system seems to freeze after choice | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit supports AVX SSE 4.1 - 2 DDR3L sodimm stacked slots max 32GB - '''Larger''' 20cm/8" high 3.5ltr case noisy fan - TPM2 - esc/F9 boot selector F10 enter bios - 2 serial and 1 parallel old ports - Key E Wireless - PCIe slot (x16 physical, x8 electrical) - 19.5V 4.36A 85w TPC-LA561 HP 7.4mm black-ring-tip power plug, red flashing power button, wrong psu or bad MotherBoard MB - |- | <!--Name-->HP t630 Thin Client TPC-I020-TC *AMD Embedded G-Series SoC GX-420GI quad core 2Ghz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|ahci.device 2 Sata M.2, sata0 up to 2280 (1tb max), sata1 2242 (64gb max), both T8 torx secure stubs}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use VESA for Radeon AMD Wani R7E with 2 displayport 1.2 sockets - no dvi / hdmi}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 6.34 VOID for controller 0x1022 0x157a and not detected ALC255 codec x10ec x0255 aka ALC3234, pins 0x17 as LFE and 0x1b as int speaker}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2 2 front and 2 rear but not 2 front USB3 and 1 inside}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169 8111H}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB 2.2 | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit supports AVX SSE 4.1 - 2 DDR4 SODIMMs side by side speed 1866Mhz limit - 19.5V 3.33A 65W TPC-BA54 Coax male 7.4mm with centre pin - can be easily bricked, might reflash bios with M40 SP149736 - 20cm/8" high 1.5ltr larger fanless case - esc f1 f9 f10 - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq Elite 7200 7300 8200 8300 SFF with kettle IEC psu cable | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE ata legacy only in BIOS}} | <!--Gfx-->i pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|8200 works}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel or Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit dual core - add pci-e rtl8169 ethernet card and pci-e gf210 nvidia low height - |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq Pro 6305 Small Form Factor SFF AMD A75 chipset (FCH 6 SATA 6 Gb/s, 4 USB 3.0) *AMD Quad A10-5800B *AMD A8-5500B *AMD Dual A6-5400B *AMD A4-5300B | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 7000 Terascale iGPU series Radeon HD 7660D, Radeon HD 7560D, Radeon HD 7540D, Radeon HD 7480D | <!--Audio-->HD ALC221 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 5761}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Elitedesk 705 G1 - SFF *AMD A10-8850B, Quad-Core A10 PRO-7850B, A10-8750B *AMD A10-7800B, A10 PRO-6800B, A8-7600B *AMD A8-8650B, A6-8550B *AMD A6-8350B, Dual A6 PRO 7400B, A4-7300B | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D with Radeon R7 or 8000}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD audio with Realtek ALC221 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom or Intel}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - T15 security torx psu with 6pin PWR 200W connector - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteDesk 705 G2, 705 G3 Mini PC USFF thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2.5in and m.2 | <!--Gfx-->Radeon R7 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5762 GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit AM4 socket with 35W TDP A10-8770E (4c), AMD PRO A6-8570E (2c), AMD Pro A6-9500E, or AMD PRO A10-9700E on AMD B300 FCH - ddr4 sodimm slots - 77 x 175 x 34mm (6.97 x 6.89 x 1.34in) 1L and about 3lbs - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteDesk 705 G4 Mini 1ltr USFF AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (4c t) or 5 2400G (4c t) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Nvme 2280 and 2.5in sata}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 thru DP1.2 port | <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio Conexant codec}} | <!--USB-->USB2 usb3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit Am4 socket - 2 sodimm 16GB max - 19.5v hp socket ext psu - |- | <!--Name-->Elitedesk 705 G4 35w, Elitedesk 705 G4 65w, HP Prodesk 405 G4 35W USFF - AMD Athlon PRO 200GE (2c 4t), 2200GE (4c t) or 2400GE (4c t) on AMD B350 FCH, Elitedesk 705 G5 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Nvme 2280 and older models 2.5in sata}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 3, 8 or 11 with 2 dp1.2 ports | <!--Audio-->HD audio with Conexant CX20632 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111EPH 1Gbe or Realtek RTL8111F | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - realtek wifi 8821 or 8822 - up to 1 ddr4 dimm slots - 12v up to 180w ac - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitedesk 806 G6, Prodesk 405 G6 3400GE Ryzen 5 PRO 3350GE (4c 8t), Ryzen 3 PRO 3200GE 3150GE (4c 4t), AMD Athlon Silver PRO 3125GE (2c 4t) on AMD PRO 565 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2x NVMe or 1x SATA + 1x NVMe, but not all three drives at the same time without serious modding of hd caddie || <!--Gfx-->Vega with DP1.4 port || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC3205 codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->HP t540 1ddr4 slot, t640 2 DDR4 SDRAM sodimm SO-DIMM 260-pin non-ECC max 32gb thin client USFF | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 NVM Express (NVMe) 2230 or 2280 | <!--Gfx-->Vega 3 VGA, DisplayPort | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->2 USB3 gen1 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek Realtek RTL8111HSH or RTL8111E PH-CG | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit ryzen r1000 series Ryzen Embedded R1305G 1.5 GHz, R1505G dual (2c 4t) 2.0Ghz or R1606G ?.?Ghz (2c4t) - Realtek RTL8852AE wifi - 45W psu Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP t740 SFF Thin Client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 M.2, one is sata and other nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 DisplayPort or + optional pci-e 30W Radeon E9173 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E PH-CG 1Gbe | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - Ryzen Embedded V1756B 3.25Ghz quad - 90W 19.5V 4.62A psu Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - sodimm DDR4 max 64Gb - slightly noisy fan - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteDesk 805 G6 Mini 4750GE (8t 16t), Prodesk 405 G6 Ryzen 5 PRO 4650GE (6c 12t) or Ryzen 3 PRO 4350GE (4c 8t) on AMD PRO 565 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2.5in carrier and 2 slots m.2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 with DP1.4 and HDMI flex io2 output options | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC3205 codec | <!--USB-->4 usb a - gen 2 10gig and gen 1 5gig ports | <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit AMD Ryzen 4000 SBC unlocked - 2 sodimm ddr4 slots - wifi6 - 90W ac - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Lenovo==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo Nettop IdeaCentre Q150 (40812HU) | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio--> realtek codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->intel 10/100 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit D510 |- | <!--Name-->M625q Tiny (1L) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->M.2 Sata | <!--Gfx-->Stoney Radeon R2, R3 or R4 and later R5 with 2 dp ports | <!--Audio-->HD audio with ALC233-VB2-CG codec 0x10EC 0x0233 | <!--USB-->{{No|3 usb3.1 Gen 1 and 3 usb2}} | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit all dual cores - e2-9000e or a4-9120e later A9-9420e - heatsink covers 70% area covers wifi - 65w or 135w lenovo rectangle ac - 1 ddr4 2666MHz slot max 8gb - tpm 2.0 - |- | <!--Name-->M715q Gen 1 AMD A6 A8 A10-9700E 9770E (2c2t) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 | <!--Gfx-->R4 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->M715q Gen 2 Ryzen 5 PRO 2400GE 4C 8T | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 | <!--Gfx-->Vega 11 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - f1 enter setup, esc device boot - fixed 1.8v ch341a needed to reflash 1.8v bios if no boot SOP8 DIP8 Winbond W25Q64, MXIC MX25U1635, MX25U6435 - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkCenter M75n nano Ryzen3 3300U | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->ThinkCentre M75q M75q-1 Tiny 1ltr TMM AMD Ryzen 5 PRO Quad 3500 Pro 3400GE (4c 8t) 11a5 soe400, 3200GE (2c 4t) zen1+ 11a4 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|NVMe 2280 1Tb max - untested 2.5inch}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 11 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio codec | <!--USB-->3 USB3 Gen 1 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 65w 20v 3.25A to 135W rectangle psu - 2 sodimm ddr4 sodimm max 32GB locked 2666MHz - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkCentre Ryzen 7 PRO Tiny 1ltr Gen 2 AMD 4000 series 4650GE (6c12t) 4750GE (8c16t) 4350G (4c8t) Zen2 - | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|NVme}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit vendor locked - 20v psu - 2 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkcenter M75q-2 Gen2 refresh | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Radeon Vega | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GigE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 5650GE (6c12t) 5750GE (8c16t) - vendor/PSB can lock your AMD CPU - f12 boot devices |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Thinkcentre M75q Tiny Gen5 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} | <!--SATA-->2 NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 780M dp1.4a or hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 usb-c | <!--Ethernet-->1GBe port | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2024 Ryzen PRO 7 8700GE - 90W yellow rectangle connector psu - 2 DDR5 sodimm slots max 128Gb - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |} ====Misc==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Impart impact Media Group IQ Box mini Digital Signage with MB896 mini itx | <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->GMA 915 gme | <!--Audio--> via audio | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - 1 ddr2 slot - pentium m 1.73GHz - |- | <!--Name-->[https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_mini/specs/mac_mini_cd_1.83-specs.html Apple A1176 Intel MacMini1,1] | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{unk|gpt/efi }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|gma950 2d and 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ICH7 [https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/186749 Sigmatel Stac 9221] [https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/msm/+/android-wear-5.1.1_r0.6/sound/pci/hda/patch_sigmatel.c codec][https://alsa-devel.alsa-project.narkive.com/Yt20W6cE/sigmatel-stac9221-mux-amp-out-0x02-microphone-not-working mic]}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2006 32bit possible 1.83 GHz Intel “Core Duo” (T2400) - swap pci-e wifi for atheros 5k AR5007EG - maybe hack with a 2,1 firmware - max 4GB Ram ddr2 sodimms - external apple psu - dvd boot only with c key - |- | <!--Name-->[https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_mini/specs/mac-mini-core-2-duo-1.83-specs.html Apple A1176 Intel Mac Mini2,1] | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{unk|gpt/efi }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|gma950 2d and 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ICH7 Sigmatel Stac 9221 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} | <!--Test Distro-->Aros One 2.0/ Icaros (latest beta) | <!--Comments-->2007 64bit - swap pci-e wifi for atheros 5k AR5007EG - hacked with a 2,1 firmware and replaced the cpu for T7600 2.33 Ghz C2D and max 4GB Ram ddr2 sodimms - external apple psu - dvd boot only via c key |- | <!--Name-->Apple iMac 5,1 "Core 2 Duo" 1.83GHz 17" T5600 MA710LL || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 with 64Mb || <!--Audio-->HDAudio idt codec || <!--USB-->3 USB2 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit - 2 ddr2 667MHz sodimm slots - 17.0" TFT widescreen 1440x900 - polycarbonate |- | <!--Name-->Apple iMac 6,1 "Core 2 Duo" 2.16 2.33 24" only T7400 T7600 aka MA456LL/A A1200 (EMC 2111) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia 7300GT with 128 MB of GDDR3 SDRAM PCI Express or GeForce 7600GT with 256Mb mini dvi, vga || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->3 USB2 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit - 2 ddr2 667MHz sodimm slots - 24.0" TFT widescreen 1920 x 1200 - polycarbonate plastic case iMacs of this generation are the most difficult iMacs to service due to their front bezel design |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA2 | <!--IDE-->flash "DiskOnModule" | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->S3 Inc ProSavage PM133 (rev 02) vga | <!--Audio-->VIA VT82C686 AC97 Audio | <!--USB-->USB | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8139 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - VIA Ezra 800MHz - 2 PC100 sodimm slots - riser board carries an ISA slot and a PCI slot - external 12V power supply.with 4 pins - |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA5 Capio One | <!--IDE-->44pin DiskOnModule | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->SiS550 vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with SiS7019 codec | <!--USB-->USB1.1 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8139 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - internal power supply with mains lead has a "clover leaf" style - 2 144-pin PC100 or PC133 SODIMM might have 24MB of RAM soldered - |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA10 *E140 model BL-XX-XX (800MHz CPU) later *E100 model BK-XX-XX (1GHz CPU) | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA VT8623 (Apollo CLE266) vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with | <!--USB-->4 USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102/VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 74) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2004/5 32bit - 12v 5.5mm/2.1mm - 2 184-pin DDR DIMM - |- | <!--Name-->VXL Itona thin client *TC3200, *TC3x41 (P3VB-VXL) TC3541 TC3641 TC3841, *TC3xx1 (6VLE-VXL0) TC3931, *TC43xx (Gigabyte C7V7VX) TC4321 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA vga | <!--Audio-->AC'97 Audio with VIA VT | <!--USB-->VIA USB | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8100B | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2005 2006 32bit VIA Samuel 2, VIA C3 Nehamiah CPU, 1 DIMM slot, internal psu, |- | <!--Name-->Neoware Capio C50, model CA15 Thin Clients] *Login Administrator Password Administrator *Login User Password User | <!--IDE-->1 flash DiskOnModule | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA VT8623 (Apollo CLE266) vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with via codec | <!--USB-->USB | <!--Ethernet-->VIA | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2006 32bit VIA Eden (Samuel II core) CPU - 1 ddr sodimm slot max 512mb - slot - internal psu clover leaf - |- | <!--Name-->[http://etoy.spritesmind.net/neowareca21.html Neoware CA21 Thin Clients] Igel 3210 (and maybe the Clientron G270) *Login Administrator Password Administrator *Login User Password User | <!--IDE-->1 flash DiskOnModule | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA CN700 vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with via codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit VIA C3 Nehemiah instead of Ezra-T - made 2 version of the CA 21, one with an Award bios and one with a Phoenix bios - 1 ddr2 sodimm slot max 1gb - VT6656 wireless - slot - internal psu iec - |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA22 (e140), part number DD-L2-GE with BCOM WinNET P680 (V4) as the Igel 4210LX (Igel 5/4) | <!--IDE-->1 VIA VT82C586A/B VT82C686/A/B VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA CN700 P4M800 Pro CE VN800 Graphics [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01) vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with codec | <!--USB-->USB2 VIA VT8237R Plus | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102/VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - VIA Esther to later C7 1GHz - 1 ddr2 sodimm slots max 512mb - +12V DC/4.16A/50W 5.5mm/2.1mm coaxial - |- | <!--Name-->10Zig RBT402, Clientron U700, | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|44 pin header very little room}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A|}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Partial|VESA dvi}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|VIA }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - very small cases with very limited expansion - 1 sodimm 2GB max - 12v 3a psu - Password Fireport |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Dell Optiplex FX170 D05U thin client, 10Zig 56xx range 5602, 5616v, 5617v, 5672v, Clientron U800, Devon IT TC5, | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|44 pin header very little room}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A|}} | <!--Gfx-->{{partial|GMA 950 dvi}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit - very small cases with very limited expansion - 1 ddr2 sodimm 2GB max - 12v 3a psu - Password Fireport - ps2 keyboard socket - |- | <!--Name-->10Zig RBT-616V or Chip PC Technologies EX-PC (model number XPD4741) | <!--IDE-->{{unk|44 pin header very little room}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A|}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 950}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|HD Audio with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|rtl8169}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit N270 on NM10 with ICH7 - very small cases with very limited expansion - 1 sodimm 2GB max - 12v 4a psu - Password Fireport |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Brix GS-A21S-RH (rev. 1.0) SFF | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|X3100}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC883-GR codec}} | <!--USB-->Intel USB | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82566DC}} | <!--Test Distro-->ICAROS 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit Intel GME965 chipset with Intel ICH8M - 2 DDR2 Dimm slots - GA-6KIEH2-RH Rev.1.x mini ITX Case 213mm(D) x 64mm(W) x 234mm(H) - custom psu - |- | <!--Name-->VXL Itona MD+24 MD27 MD54 MD64 MD76 thin client | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->VIA Chrome 9 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA VT | <!--USB-->VIA | <!--Ethernet-->VIA | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit VIA X2 U4200 - 12v-19v barrel psu - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Revo 100 RL100 AMD Athlon II X2 K325 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® ION™ 9300m || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC662 codec || <!--USB-->USB2 1 front 2 back || <!--Ethernet-->NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2010 64bit but no AVX - 4Gb DDR3 sodimm - 500 GB - 19v 3.42a 65W - dvd but later BD drive - |- | <!--Name-->Asrock ION 330 330Pro HT-BD, Foxconn NT-330i, Zotac ION F (IONITX mini itx), | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ION geforce 9400}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Nvidia USB}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Nvidia }} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit slow atom cpu - 2.5L 8" by 8" plastic case - 2 ddr2 sodimm max 4G - external 19v 65W 3.42A Plug 5.5mm X 2.5mm - little whiny fan - |- | <!--Name-->Zotac ZBOXHD-ND01 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION1 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->NVidia | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Zotac ZBOX HD-ID11 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with ALC888 codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111D | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 |- | <!--Name-->ZOTAC ZBOX Blu-ray 3D ID36 Plus | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->sata | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->2 USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->GbE | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Shuttle XS35GT || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ION || <!--Audio-->HD audio IDT92HD81 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|JMC261}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - Atom™ D510 NM10 - DDR2 |- | <!--Name-->Shuttle XS35GT V2 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ION2 || <!--Audio-->HD audio IDT92HD81 || <!--USB-->Intel || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|JMC251}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit Atom™ D525 NM10 chipset - DDR3 |- | <!--Name-->Sapphire Edge-HD || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ION2 GT218 with vga and hdmi || <!--Audio-->HDAudio realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - Atom™ D510 NM10 - DDR2 65 W AC, DC 19V~3.42A, 19.3L x 14.8w x 2.2H cm (1l), weight 530g, |- | <!--Name-->Sapphire Edge-HD2 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|nouveau ION2 GT218 with vga and hdmi 2d and 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|Intel USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit Atom™ D525 NM10 chipset - DDR3 |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.jetwaycomputer.com/JBC600C99352W.html Jetway JBC600C99352W] | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio-->{{No|C-Media CM108AH}} | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111DL | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit D525 - DDR3 - 12v psu |- | <!--Name-->Foxconn nT-A3550 A3500 AMD A45 Chipset DDR3 Nettop Barebones - White | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 slot | <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon HD6310 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 USB2 back and 2 USB3 front | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD Dual-core E350 1.6GHz CPU - 1 ddr3 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Asus EeeBox PC EB1021 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD6320M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE1 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit - AMD® Brazos E-350 SFF or E-450 with A50M - 2 ddr3l so-dimm - 40W ac - |- | <!--Name-->Xi3 Piston PC Athlon64 X2 3400e (X5A), AMD R-464L quad (X7A) Z3RO NUC | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->AMD mobility HD3650 to radeon HD 7660G | <!--Audio--> codec | <!--USB-->4 USB2 3 USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8161}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 - 2 sodimm 8GB max - 19v 3.3a round - Titan105 bios update - |- | <!--Name-->Sapphire Edge-HD3 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD6320M with vga and hdmi || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC662 codec || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE1 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD® Brazos E-450 with A45M - ddr3l so-dimm - 65W ac - Wireless is Realtek 8191SU WiFi (802.11n) or AzureWave (802.11bgn) - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Samsung Syncmaster Thin Client Display TC-W Series 24" LF24 TOWHBFM/EN TC220W LED LF22TOW HBDN/EN || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->8gb SSD || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe| VESA mode only Radeon HD 6290}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->2 USB 2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 thin Client C-50 C50 AMD® 1000 MHz and no wireless |- | <!--Name-->Advantech TPC-2140 thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 atom-like G-T56E 1.65Ghz up to SSE3, BGA413 soldered - |- | <!--Name-->CompuLab FIT-PC3 fitPC3 USFF PC AMD G-T56N || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->RADEON HD 6320 || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio ALC888 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 8111}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64 bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 12v 3a - 2x sodimm DDR3 max 4GB - wifi rtl8188ce |- | <!--Name-->10Zig 6872 thin client | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 atom-like G-T56N up to SSE3 BGA413 (FT1) soldered - DDR3l single channel - |- | <!--Name-->10ZiG 7800q thin client | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon 5E 3840 x 2160 @ 30Hz to 2560 x 1600 @ 60Hz 2 x Display Port | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->6 x USB2.0 2 x USB3.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD GX-424CC (Quad Core) 2.4GHz BGA769 (FT3b) SSE4 and AVX - 1 ddr3 sodimm - 12V 4A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm |- | <!--Name--> *Itona VXL MZE12 AMD a4-5000 thin client *VXL Itona LQ27 LQ+27 LQ44 LQ+44 LQ49 LQ+49 LQ50 LQ+50 LQ64 LQ+64 thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Ati 8330 vga hdmi dp | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 usb2 2 usb3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit quad BGA769 (FT3) soldered - 2 stacked sodimm ddr3 middle of mobo - 2 m.2 sata slots - 1 sata short cable half size space - limited 1ltr 8in case no fan - 19v hp style psu connector - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 5212 21.5" AIO Thin Client W11B | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Sata | <!--Gfx-->R3 out from DP or vga | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2015 64bit slow atom like dual core AMD G-T48E 1.4 GHz - dell type round ac needed 90W 19.5V 4.62A - 21 inch 1080p screen - |- | <!--Name-->LG 24CK560N-3A 24' All-in-One Thin Client Monitor, 27CN650N-6N 27CN650W-AC 27', 34CN650W-AC 34', | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2018 64bit AMD Prairie Falcon GX-212JJ |- | <!--Name-->CompuLab fit-PC4 fitPC4 4x 2Ghz AMD || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64 - 2x DDR4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->IGEL Hedgehog M340C UD3 thin client *2016 V1.0 AMD GX-412HC 1.2GHz-1.6GHz Radeon R3E, normal bios DEL for Bios or F12 boot selector *2018 AMD GX-424CC 2.4GHz, Radeon R5E, UEFI hit DEL and choose boot or SCU icon | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->SATA half slim version '''limited space''' with msata slot on earlier 2016 models | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Radeon R3E later R5E sea islands vulkan 1.2 with dvi dp output}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec ?? (412) and Realtek ALC662-VD0-GR (424), both case speaker}} | <!--USB-->amd usb3 boot usb2 with bios "disable usb" entry | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169 8111 (412) and (424)}} | <!--Test Distro-->Aros One x86 USB 1.5, 1.8 and 2.2 | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 20cm/8" high case - 1 DDR3L sodimm slot max 8Gb 1600MHz - external '''12V 3A''' supply with 5.5mm/2.1mm coaxial - IDE like interface under base stand is for legacy addon ports RS232 parallel etc - capacitive touch power on - case opening 3 stages, remove stand and narrow black plastic strip from the back, top cover slides off to the back and lifts off - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->IGEL UD3 M350C (UEFI issues) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->None but 8gb emmc | <!--Gfx-->Vega 3 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek ALC897 or ALC888S codec | <!--USB-->USB 3.2 and 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - AMD Ryzen™ R R1505G Dual-Core 10W TDP - 2 DDR4 sodimms slots max 16Gb - 12V 4A psu - 2x DisplayPort 1.2 no dvi or hdmi - Intel® 9260 or SparkLAN WNFT-238AX wifi - 1x rear serial Prolific PL2303 chipset - locked down components and very limited expansion options - |- | <!--Name-->IGEL UD7 H860C AMD Ryzen V1605B Thin Client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 AMD Ryzen™ Embedded V1605B 2 – 3.6 GHz (Quad-Core) - 12v 5A psu - up to 16GB RAM DDR4 - locked down components and very limited expansion options - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Brix Barebone Mini PC BSRE-1605 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 M.2 | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC269 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->2 GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit AMD Ryzen V1605B - 2 DDR4 sodimm slots |- | <!--Name-->EliteGroup LIFA Q3 Plus | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit AMD Ryzen Embedded V1000, V1605B - |- | <!--Name-->MINISFORUM Deskmini UM250 Mini PC | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit AMD Ryzen V1605B - |- | <!--Name-->Shuttle DA320 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->R3 R5 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC662 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->dual realtek 1GbE 8111H | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Opinion-->2017 64bit AMD 2200G 2400G - Robust metal 1.3-liter case - A320 chipset DDR4 - 19V 6.32A DC PSU - |- | <!--Name-->T-Bao MN25 Mini PC 2500U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Unk|Intel NVMe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA Radeon Vega 8}} | <!--Audio-->{{Unk| }} | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek PCIe 1GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Minis Forum M200 Silver Athlon M300 3300U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1 and 2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek PCIe 2.5G}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Minis Forum DeskMini UM300 3300U, UM350 DMAF5 3550H, UM370 and UM700 with 3750H | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1 and 2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek PCIe 2.5G}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit |- | <!--Name-->MinisForum X300 with AMD 3400G | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1 and 2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek PCIe 2.5G}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Beelink SER3 GTR4 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega 3 or 10 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RJ45 1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit 3200u or 3750h |- | <!--Name-->Beelink SER4 GTR5 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->cant boot from installed SSDs unless its an M.2 | <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->1 or 2 Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 4700U or 5900HX |- | <!--Name-->MSI PRO DP20Z 5M Mini PC - AMD Ryzen 5 5300G | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 2.5G LAN RTL8125}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->R3 3200G Vega 8 - R5 3400G Vega 11 - Ryzen 5 5600G Vega 7 - Athlon 3000G |- | <!--Name-->Minisforum UM450 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 2.5G LAN RTL8125}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - Ryzen 4500U - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Brix GB-BRR7-4800 (rev. 1.0) GB-BRR7-4700 (rev. 1.0) GB-BRR5-4500 (rev. 1.0) GB-BRR3-4300 (rev. 1.0) | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 2.5G LAN RTL8125 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS PN50 mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 4700U | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|3.1 gen1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|realtek 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS PN51-S1 mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 5700U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Vega thru dp or hdmi | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|3.1 gen1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|realtek 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 19v or 19.5v 90w psu round barrel - 32gb ddr4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Minis Forum Bessstar Tech EliteMini B550 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 x 2.5in and 2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{no|4 usb3.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|realtek 8125 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit AMD 4700G 5700G desktop cpu - 19v 120w round barrel - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock A300 and later X300 Mini itx with Desktop AM4 socket | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - choose your own AMD APU GE 35w based - DDR4 - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock 4x4 BOX-5800U Zen 3-based AMD Ryzen 7 5800U 15W - | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 slot gen 3 and sata | <!--Gfx-->vega | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|1 GbE and 1 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - WiFi 6E - |- | <!--Name-->Topton S500+ Gaming Mini PC - Morefine S500+ 5900HX Mini PC - Minisforum UM590 Ryzen AMD Zen3 Ryzen 9 5900HX 7 5800H 45W - | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme 1 sata | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 thru HDMI 2.0, DP 1.4, and USB type-C | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{no|usb3.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|1 realtek rtl 8111h and 1 8125 2.5GbE bg-cg}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 2 sodimm ddr4 3200MHz - |- | <!--Name-->Chuwi RzBox later Ubox | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 later to 660m vga, dp, hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->{{No|usb-c usb2}} | <!--Ethernet-->dual gigabit | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 2025 64bit amd 5800h 4800h 6600H - 90w psu - |- | <!--Name-->Beelink Mini PC SER5, Trigkey AZW S5, Asus PN52, ZHI BEN MX-JB560, | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->PCIe3 M.2 2280 nvme | <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega 6 with 1 or 2 hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->{{No|USB3.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 1GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 5500U 5560u 5600U to PRO 5600H 5800H - 19v 3.42W 65W psu - |- | <!--Name-->NIPOGI Kamrui ACEMAGICIAN AM06PRO Dual LAN Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, 5 5500U or 5600U/5625U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->M.2 and 2.5in sata | <!--Gfx-->Vega 7 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->2 GbE ports | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - plastic build - 90w usb-c power - loud at 25W setting - |- | <!--Name-->Topton FU02 Fanless Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 4700U 5600U 5800U 8 Core 16 Threads | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe and 2.5in sata | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->4 3.0 with 2 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->2 x 1G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64 - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - fanless with copper cube from cpu to metal sheet which gets warm |- | <!--Name-->Xuu XR1 Lite (5300u 4c 8t) PRO 5400U MAX 5600U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 NVMe 2242 slot | <!--Gfx-->Vega 6 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->2 3.0 | <!--Ethernet-->1G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64 quiet fan - very small case no expansions - |- | <!--Name-->MINISFORUM UM690 Venus Series | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->pcie4 nvme 2280 and 1 sata3 2.5in | <!--Gfx-->680m RNDA2 12CU with 2 hdmi | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|1 USB4 and 2 USB3.2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|2.5G LAN}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 6900hx 8C16T - 2 ddr5 sodimmm - 19v ???W - |- | <!--Name-->Beelink Mini PC GTR6 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->PCIe4 | <!--Gfx-->AMD 680M RDNA2 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->USB3.2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 2.5GbE or intel i225}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit Ryzen 9 6900HX Zen3+ and a 2gb Radeon 680m 12CU ddr5 sodimm - 19v 120w psu - |- | <!--Name-->Asus PN53, Geekom AS 6, | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->pcie gen4 nvme and ata 2.5in | <!--Gfx-->680m RNDA2 12CU with 2 hdmi and 1 dp | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|2 usb-c, 2 USB2.1 and 3 USB3.2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|1G LAN}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 6900hx 8C 16T - 2 slots ddr5 sodimmm (64Gb max) - 19v 120W - 4 retained base screws beware ribbon cable - |- | <!--Name-->Micro Computer (HK) Tech Ltd MinisForum UM773 Lite later UM750L slim, GMKtec K2 Mini PC | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe PCIe4.0 | <!--Gfx-->RDNA | <!--Audio-->HD Audio | <!--USB-->USB4 | <!--Ethernet-->2.5GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2023 2025 64bit - AMD Zen 3+ (8c 16t) Ryzen 7 7735HS, 7840HS and AMD Ryzen 9 7845HX AMD Ryzen™5 7545U (6c12t) - 19v up to 120w ac adapter - ddr5 sodimm 4800Mhz - |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.asrockind.com/en-gb/4x4 ASrock 4x4 SBC] | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->sata or nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega or 680M | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 or USB4 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 1GbE or intel 2.5GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Beelink Mini PC GTR7 SER7 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->PCIe4 nvme 2280 up to 2Tb | <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M RDNA3 GPU output on hdmi and dp | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3.2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|1 or 2 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2023 64bit AMD Phoenix APUs Zen 4 CPU Ryzen 7 7840HS or 9 7940HS (8c 16t) - 19v 5.26A 120w psu - del dios setup f7 choose boot - 2 thunderbolt-type usb-c on back - up to 64gb via 2 ddr5 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->MINISFORUM BD770i Ryzen 7 7745HX (8c16t) or BD795i SE 790i 9 7945HX (16c32t) or F1FXM_MB_V1.1 795M LGA1700 mATX | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 610m over usb-c, dp or hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 with 2 rear USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 2.5G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Opinion-->2024 mini-ITX M/B is the first MoDT (Mobile on Desktop) with soldered AMD CPU - 2 dual PCIe4.0 M.2 slots - 2 ddr5 sodimm slots max 5200Mhz - 8pin cpu power - battery not easily replaceable underneath - |- | <!--Name-->mINISORUM ms-a1 MS-a2 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->AMD 610M | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->dual 2.5GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2024 64bit - 19v ?A round barrel jack - 2 ddr5 so-dimm slots - choose from 5700G to 8700G apu - |- | <!--Name-->NextSBC 7840HS | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Nvme | <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M 12CU | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec | <!--USB-->USB4 and USB 3.2 | <!--Ethernet-->2 GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - 32Gb soldered - |- | <!--Name-->Minisforum UM870 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVme || <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M || <!--Audio-->HDaudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->2.5GbE || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Server Systems=== [[#top|...to the top]] ====IBM==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="15%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->xSeries 206m | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ATI RN50b (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{n/a}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0 (UHCI/EHCI)}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2014-09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Motherboard=== [[#top|...to the top]] * Late 2002, USB2.0 added and slightly better AROS sound support (AC97) appeared * 2002-2005 and still, to a limited extent, ongoing [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague bad capacitors] * Late 2003, ATX PSUs moved from 5V to 12v rails (extra 4pin on motherboard for CPU) * Late 2005, PCI Express replaced AGP and HDAudio replaced AC97 * Late 2007, ATX PSUs added extra 12V PCI-E connectors and 4+4pin for CPUs * Late 2010, USB3.0 appears on motherboards or needing a PCI-E motherboard slot * Late 2014 Hardware USB2 removed from USB3 chipsets ====AMD==== [[#top|...to the top]] =====Socket 7 (1997/1999)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->1997 VT82C586B (QFP-208) is the first from VIA with DDMA |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2000 VT82C686 has close to excellent DDMA support |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->SiS 5581/5582 SiS 5591/5595 SiS 530 /5595 SiS 600/5595 SiS 620/5595 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket A 462 (2001/4)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/motherboards/article.php/2217921/ABIT-NF7-S-nForce2-Motherboard-Review.htm Abit NF7-S] | <!--Chipset-->nForce 2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->SIL 3112A | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650 AC97 (Nvidia APU)}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL 8201LB | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Realtek RTL8801B |- | <!--Name-->ASRock K7NF2 | <!--Chipset-->nforce2 ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|AGP 8x}} | <!--Audio-->CMedia CMI 9761A AC'97 | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8201 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock K7S8X | <!--Chipset-->SIS 746FX | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|AGP 8x}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC'97 cmedia}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB2.0 works but does not boot}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|SiS900}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock K7S41GX | <!--Chipset-->SIS 741GX + DDR 333 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|onboard sis does not work with vga or vesa but AGP 8x works}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 SIS 7012}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB2.0 works but does not boot}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|SiS 900}} | <!--Opinion-->works ok |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.asus.com ASUS A7N8X] | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->Silicon Image Sil 3112A | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ac97 ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|ehci USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8201BL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->first total support for AROS in 2004/5 - damocles and M Schulz |- | <!--Name-->Biostar M7NCD | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650 AC97}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8201BL}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Chaintech 7NJS Ultra Zenith | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Promise PDC 20376 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|CMI8738}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->DFI Lanparty NF2 Ultra | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|via ac97 VT1616}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8139C | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ECS N2U400-A | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|Cmedia 9379A AC97}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|usb2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|VIA VT6103L}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA7N400L | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP 8x slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 ALC650}} | <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8100C | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.gigabyte.lv/products/page/mb/ga-8siml Gigabyte 8SIML] | <!--Chipset-->SIS 650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC'97}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|working}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Realtek RTL8100L LAN}} | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Matsonic [http://www.elhvb.com/mobokive/archive/matsonic/manual/index.html Manuals] MS83708E | <!--Chipset-->SIS730 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|SiS 5513}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|sis 305 no support use VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|sis7018}} | <!--USB-->{{no|SiS 7001 USB 1.1 only}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|SIS900}} | <!--Opinion-->little support |- | <!--Name-->[http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph07585&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&dest_page=softwareCategory&os=228&tool=softwareCategory&query=Pavilion%20742n&product=89232 MSI MS-6367 HP 722n 742n (Mambo) (2001/2)] | <!--Chipset-->Nvidia nforce 220D (2001/2) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->GeForce2 AGP works 2D nouveau only | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|AC97 ADI 1885 no volume control on Units 0-3}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 USB1.1 ports AMD based - front 2 ports iffy}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|nForce}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested 20th Aug 2012 NB |- | <!--Name-->MSI K7N2 [http://us.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&prod_no=546/ Delta ILSR] Delta-L | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 (2002/3) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|Primary & Secondary ports}} IDE Tertiary port (RAID) | <!--SATA-->2 ports (RAID) | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|when fitted with an agp video card}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ac97 ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8201BL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->runs AROS well. Tested with Icaros 1.2.3 |- | <!--Name-->MSI K7N2 Delta2-LSR Platinum | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 (2002/3) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|Primary & Secondary ports}} IDE Tertiary port (RAID) | <!--SATA-->2 ports (RAID) | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|when fitted with an agp video card}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|ac97 ALC655}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8201BL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->runs AROS well. Tested with Icaros 1.2.3 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/motherboards/article.php/2204281/Soltek-SL-75MRN-L-nForce2-Motherboard-Review.htm Soltek 75FRN-L] | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|2 ports}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->AGP slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 usb2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek RTL8201BL}} | <!--Opinion-->good support |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.3dvelocity.com/reviews/mach4nf2ultra/mach4.htm XFX Pine Mach4 nForce2 Ultra 400] | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|3 ports}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|2 ports VIA VT6240}} | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP 8x slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8201BL}} | <!--Opinion-->some support |- | <!--Name-->ASUS A7V266 | <!--Chipset-->via KT266A + 8233 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{no|issues}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot | <!--Audio-->AC97 with AD1980 codec | <!--USB-->via 8233 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6103 | <!--Opinion-->2002 issues with booting |- | <!--Name-->Asus A7V8X-X | <!--Chipset-->VIA KT400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{unk| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|agp}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 with ADI AD1980 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|VIA 8235}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|Realtek 10/100}} | <!--Opinion-->2003 not booting for Socket A for AMD Barton/Thoroughbred/Athlon XP/Athlon/Duron 2.25+ GHz CPU - 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets Max. 3 GB - |- |} =====Socket 754 (2004/5)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Abit NF8-V2 | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 250GB (2004/5) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|2 ports}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|2 ports}} | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot x8 | <!--Audio-->ALC658 ac97 | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8201C}} | <!--Opinion-->a little support but no Firewire VIA VT6306 |- | <!--Name-->Biostar CK8 K8HNA Pro | <!--Chipset-->nforce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->VT6420 thru ide legacy only | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 ALC655}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8110S | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VT6307 no |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/motherboards/Chaintech_ZNF3-150_3.html Chaintech ZNF3-150 Zenith] | <!--Chipset-->nforce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|Sli3114 SATA via IDE emul}} | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot | <!--Audio-->{{no|VIA Envy24PT (VT1720) + VT1616}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom GbE 5788}} | <!--Opinion-->very little support needs PCI cards but no Firewire VIA VT6306 |- | <!--Name-->DFI Lanparty UT nF3 250GB | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 250gb | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|2 ports nForce3 and 2 Marvell SATA PHY}} | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 ALC850}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->CK8S - Winfast NF3 250K8AA works and Marvell 88E1111 does not work | <!--Opinion-->2005 some support but no Firewire VIA VT6307 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-K8N | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA nForce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC658 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8100C | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TI43AB23 no |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte K8NNXP | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Sata sil3512 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC658 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTl8110S | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TI STB82AA2 no |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-K8NSNXP | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 250GB | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->SiI 3512 CT128 Sata Sil3515 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC850 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvel 88E8001}} | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->MSI K8N Neo-FIS2R | <!--Chipset-->nVIDIA NF3-250Gb | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Realtek 7.1 AC'97 ALC850 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E1111}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->[http://techreport.com/articles.x/5748/1 Shuttle AN50R] | <!--Chipset-->nF3-150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Sil 3112 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC650 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia nF3 (10/100) Intel 82540EM Gigabit | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VT6307 no |- | <!--Name--> Foxconn WinFast K8S755A | <!--Chipset-->SiS755 + SiS964 (DDR333) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> {{yes|AC97}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|RTL8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket 939 (2005)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus A8N-LA GeForce 6150 LE | <!--Chipset-->Geforce 6150 (MCP51) + nForce 430 (PC-3200) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|two ATA 133}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|four 3.0GB/s SATAII ports}} | <!--Gfx-->built in or PCI-E x16 | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC883 HD Audio | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL 8201CL | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus A8N-SLI Premium | <!--Chipset-->NVidia | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|PCIe slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|nForce LAN but not Marvell}} | <!--Opinion-->Works well |- | <!--Name-->DFI nF4 Ultra-D LanParty - Diamond Flower International sold to BenQ group 2010 | <!--Chipset-->nF4 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->4 ports SATA 2 | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe x16 slots | <!--Audio-->AC97 with ALC850 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Dual Gigabit Ethernet, PCIe by Vitesse VSC8201 PHY nee Cicada 8201, PCI by Marvel 88E8001 | <!--Opinion-->2006 64bit - Four 184-pin DDR Dual-Channel Slots - 1 pci on Ultra, 2 pci on sli, |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus A8V E SE | <!--Chipset-->VIA K8T890 +VT8237R CHIPSET ATX AMD Motherboard with Athlon 64 X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 | <!--ACPI-->{{N/A}} | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{N/A}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe}} AC97 driver using Realtek ALC850 codec | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} USB 2.0 only | <!--Ethernet-->{{No}} Marvell 88E8053 | <!--Opinion-->Good base but needs additional PCI cards added for better support |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS A8V Deluxe (2004) | <!--Chipset-->VIA K8T800 Pro (DDR400) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->Promise 20378 2 ports | <!--SATA-->2 SATA2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|VIA VT8233A 8235 8237 AC97}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit}} | <!--Opinion-->needs extra PCI cards |- |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->AsRock 939Dual-SATA2 | <!--Chipset-->Ali Uli M1695 PCIe with M1567 AGP | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->1 Sata with JMicron JMB360 chip | <!--Gfx-->1 pci-e and 1 agp | <!--Audio-->AC97 with ALC850 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8201CL PHY ULi 10/100 | <!--Opinion-->64bit pci-e and agp combo on board - 4 ddr slots - |} =====Socket AM2 (2006/8) and AM2+ (2007-2010) ===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 (rev. 2.x) | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA® GeForce 6100 / nForce 430 chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2d for vga}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio Realtek ALC662 Audio Codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M2N61-AR mini itx | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA nForce 430 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 | <!--SATA-->2 | <!--Gfx-->GeForce 6150SE via vga or 1 pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->Nvidia | <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia | <!--Opinion-->2006 32bit - 1 pci - 2 ddr2 dimm slots non-eec - |- | <!--Name-->asus m2n68-am se2 | <!--Chipset-->nvidia 630a 630/a MCP68SE | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 ports | <!--SATA-->2 ports MCP61 chipset is SATA over IDE, not SATA over AHCI and reports subsystem as 0x1 IDE, not 0x6 SATA | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|nvidia 7025 2d and 3d thru vga}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|hd audio with realtek alc662 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|nForce chipset RTL 8201CP}} | <!--Opinion-->2007 64bit Phenom IIX2, Athlon 64 LE X2, Sempron, and Phenom FX processors - ddr2 667Mhz ram max 4Gb - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0) | <!--Chipset-->AMD 770 with SB700 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888 codec }} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 8111C later 8111D}} | <!--Opinion-->Good support for AM2+ / AM2 with 4 ddr2 ram - 4 x PCI Express x1, 2 x PCI slots - firewire T.I. TSB43AB23 chip no support - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe | <!--Chipset-->AMD 790FX RD790 + SB600 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{No|Marvell 88SE6121 SATA II}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 1.1 support | <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio ADI® AD1988}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8056}} | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASROCK N68-S N68C-S | <!--Chipset-->AMD based nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|slimline DVD drive works}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GF 7025 use vesa}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio for VIA 1708S VT1705}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|echi usb 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8201EL / 8201CL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->2008 unbuffered 1066Mhz ddr2 ram - N68C-S may need noacpi added to grub boot line to disable pci temporarily to run as it cannot get to [PCI] Everything OK - |- | <!--Name-->Asus M2N68-AM Plus | <!--Chipset-->Athlon 64, Sempron, Athlon 64 X2, Athlon 64 FX with nvidia 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->no vga, pci-e slot only | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with ALC662 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8211CL Gigabit LAN}} | <!--Opinion-->adding "noacpi noapic noioapic" to the GRUB options - Dual channel DDR2 1066, 800, 667 MHz - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M68M-S2 (1.0) S2P (2.3) S2L GA-M68SM-S2 (1.x) | <!--Chipset-->nForce 630a chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025, vga (s2 and s2p), dvi (s2l) | <!--Audio-->ALC883 (S2), ALC888B (S2P), ALC662 (S2L), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8201CL (S2), 8211CL (S2P), 8211BL (S2L), | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit possible with AMD AM2+ CPU on AM2 motherboard, the system bus speed will downgrade from HT3.0(5200MHz) to HT1.0(2000 MT/s) spec |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M2N68-VM | <!--Chipset-->nForce 630a (MCP68PVNT) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Nvidia GeForce ® 7050PV hdmi, dvi and vga | <!--Audio-->HD audio VIA 1708B codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8211C | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit - ddr2 800Mhz |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket AM3 White socket (2010/11)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-MA74GM-S2 GA-MA74GM-S2H | <!--Chipset-->740g with sb710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|bios IDE}} | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 2100 and pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->ALC888 (r1.x),ALC888b (r2.0), ALC888B (rev4.x) | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111C later 8111D | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - 2 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets max 8 GB - Micro ATX Form Factor 24.4cm x 23.4cm - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.vesalia.de/e_aresone2011.htm Aresone 2011] | <!--Chipset-->760g | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|no Radeon HD3000 driver yet<br>vesa driver works<br>and add PCIe card}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes}} | <!--Opinion-->Good support - 4 DDR3 memory sockets - |- | <!--Name-->Foxconn A76ML-K 3.0 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760g rev3.0 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|1 }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|4 in IDE mode }} | <!--Gfx-->HD3000 with pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC662-GR codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit - 2 ddr3 slots - 2 pci slots - |- | <!--Name-->GA-MA770T-UD3P (rev. 1.0 to 1.4) | <!--Chipset-->amd 770 with sb710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|4 sata}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio with Realtek ALC888 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8168 rtl8111c/d}} | <!--Opinion-->2011 64 - 4 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 2.0 2.1) | <!--Chipset-->AMD 770 with SB700 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888 codec }} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 8111C later 8111D}} | <!--Opinion-->Good support for AM3 with 4 ddr2 ram - 4 x PCI Express x1, 2 x PCI slots - firewire T.I. TSB43AB23 chip no support - |- | <!--Name-->Asus M4A785TD-M PRO | <!--Chipset-->785G and SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|ide legacy}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ATI Radeon HD 4200 - use vesa}} or pci-e 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Opinion-->Good support with 1366 ddr3 ram - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M4A88T-I Deluxe ITX | <!--Chipset-->AMD 880G with AMD SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Three SATA 3Gbps | <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 4350 GPU with HDMI and DVI or One 16x PCI-Express 2.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC889 | <!--USB-->6 x USB 2, 2 x USB 3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek RTL8112L}} | <!--Opinion-->2014 64bit - 2 SODIMM DDR3 slots max 8GB |- | <!--Name-->Asus M4A88T-M Version E5907 E5826 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 880G SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 4250 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA VT 1708S codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek rtl8169 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->GigaByte 890GPA-UD3H | <!--Chipset-->AMD 890GX together with SB850 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Yes | <!--Gfx-->use pci-e nvidia | <!--Audio-->Maybe - ALC892 rev. 1.0, ALC892 rev 2.1, ALC889 rev. 3.1 | <!--USB-->Yes | <!--Ethernet-->Yes | <!--Opinion-->works well overall |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD7 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 890FX with SB850 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE }} | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC889 (rev 2.x) | <!--USB-->{{Yes|AMD USB2 but limited with NEC D720200F1 USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->2 x Realtek 8111D | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - XL-ATX Form Factor 32.5cm x 24.4cm - 4 ddr3 slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 890GXM-G65 | <!--Chipset-->890GX + SB750 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|legacy}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ATI 4290 built-in (vesa)}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC889 DD GR}} HD Audio crackles | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock N68-VS3 FX | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 Sata2 | <!--Gfx-->Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA® VT1705 Codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek PHY RTL8201EL | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - 2 x DDR3 DIMM slots - |- | <!--Name-->MSI GF615M-P35 MS-7597 | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA® nForce 430 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->GeForce 6150SE | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with Realtek® ALC888S}} | <!--USB-->{{No|freezes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 8211CL}} | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M68MT-S2 | <!--Chipset--> nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 vga | <!--Audio-->ALC888B (1.3), ACL887 (3.1), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8211CL (all) | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit possible, AMD AM3 CPU on this motherboard, the system bus speed will downgrade from HT3.0 (5200MT/s) to HT1.0 (2000 MT/s) spec |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M68MT-S2P | <!--Chipset--> nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 vga | <!--Audio-->ALC888B (1.x 2.x), ALC889 (3.0), ALC888B/889 (3.1), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8211CL (all) | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M4N78 PRO | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA GeForce 8300 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 xUltraDMA 133/100 | <!--SATA-->6 xSATA 3 Gbit/s ports | <!--Gfx-->Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce® 8 series GPU with 1 PCIe 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA1708S 8 -Channel codec | <!--USB-->12 USB 2.0 ports (8 ports at mid-board, 4 ports at back panel) | <!--Ethernet-->NVIDIA Gigabit | <!--Opinion-->4 x DIMM, Max. 16 GB, DDR2 1200(O.C.)/1066*/800/667 ECC,Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory - ATX Form Factor 12 inch x 9.6 inch ( 30.5 cm x 24.4 cm ) - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket AM3+ Black socket (2012/15)===== *095W FX-6300 FD6300WMHKBOX (bulldozer SSE4.1 AVX) 970 mobos with FX-8320E 8core Black Editions FD832EWMHKBOX FX-8370E (Vishera/Piledriver) *125W FX-6310 (bulldozer) 970 mobos with FX-8320 FX-8350 FX-8370 (Vishera/Piledriver) *220W 990FX mobos with FX-9000 FX-9370 FX-9590 {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M5A78L-M LX3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760G with SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|bios IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->HD3000 with pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC887, V? ALC892 codecs | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros 8161/8171 add realtek 8111? pci-e card}} | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - uATX Form Factor 9.6 inch x 7.4 inch ( 24.4 cm x 18.8 cm ) - 2 x DIMM, Max. 16GB, DDR3 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760G and SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|6 SATA2 ports}} | <!--Gfx-->GT240 and a nv7900gs, both pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC889 (r3.1), ALC??? (rev. 4.0), ALC887 (r5.x)}} | <!--USB-->4 USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 8111E (r3.1), Atheros (rev4.0), Atheros (r5.x) }} | <!--Opinion-->2012 offers very poor control over its EFI vs. BIOS booting partition features |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 (r3.0), (r4.1 Blue board), (r5.0 dark board), (rev6 dark mobo) | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760G and SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|Bios IDE mode for SATA2 on early ones}} | <!--Gfx-->AMD HD3000, pci-e GT240 and a nv7900gs | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC??? (r3.0), ALC887 (r4.1), VIA VT2021 (r5.0), Realtek® ALC892 codec (rev6) }} | <!--USB-->{{yes|AMD USB2 but not VIA® VL805 USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE | <!--Opinion-->2013 64bit - Micro ATX Form Factor 24.4cm x 24.4cm - 4 x DDR3 DIMM sockets - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 760GM | <!--Chipset-->ATI 760G plus SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->HD3000 Use Vesa | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|P33 VT1705; P34, P21 and P23 (FX) MS7641 v3.0 ALC887, E51 ALC892}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Opinion-->P23 issues with audio ALC887 crackles thru earphones - |- | <!--Name-->Gigayte GA-MA770T-UD3P (rev. 3.1) | <!--Chipset-->amd 770 with sb710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with Realtek ALC888/892 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111d/e | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASRock 890FX Deluxe5 Extreme3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 890FX + AMD SB850 or SB950 (Extreme3) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{N/A}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC892}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8111E rtl8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M5A97 R2.0 EVO | <!--Chipset-->AMD 970 and SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Asmedia SATA Controller | <!--Gfx-->n/a | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC887 (LE), ALC887 (Regular), ALC892 (EVO) codec | <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 and 2 Asmedia USB3.0 Controller | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111F | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 970 with SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio--> ALC??? (rev. 1.0/1.1), ALC887 (rev1.2), VIA VT2021 codec (rev 1.3 1.4 and rev3.0) | <!--USB-->{{yes|AMD USB2 but not Etron EJ168 chip (USB3)}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE 8111E (all revisions), | <!--Opinion-->2015 64bit - ATX Form Factor 30.5cm x 22.4cm - 4 x 1.5V DDR3 DIMM sockets - |- | <!--Name-->MSI 970 Gaming | <!--Chipset-->970FX SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC1150 Codec | <!--USB-->6 usb2 with 2 USB3 VIA VL806 Chipset | <!--Ethernet-->Killer E2205 Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M5A99X EVO | <!--Chipset-->990X - RD980 with SB920 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->2 pci-e gen ? | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC892 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 realtek 8111e | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 990 with SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC889 (rev 1.x, 3.0, 3.1), | <!--USB-->{{yes|AMD USB2 not 2 x Etron EJ168 chips for USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->realtek rtl8169 8111e | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - ATX Form Factor; 30.5cm x 24.4cm - 4 ddr3 slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====AMD Fusion (2011/14)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | 1.2GHz single Bobcat Fusion C30 + Hudson M1 | ACPI | IDE | SATA | AMD 6250 | Audio | USB | Ethernet | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | Asus E35M1-M PRO uATX | 1.6GHz 18W AMD Fusion E-350 dual core + Hudson M1 | ACPI | {{N/A}} | SATA | AMD 6310 - no HD driver yet | ALC887 VD2 | USB | RTL8111E | 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - EFI bios [http://www.anandtech.com/show/4023/the-brazos-performance-preview-amd-e350-benchmarked] |- | Asus E35M1-I Deluxe miniITX | 1.6GHz dual AMD Fusion E350 + Hudson M1 + DDR3 | ACPI | {{N/A}} | SATA | AMD 6310 - no HD driver yet | ALC892 | USB | Realtek 8111E | 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - no support for Atheros AR5008 on a Mini PCI-E |- | ASRock E350M1 / USB3 (also version with USB3.0 added) | 1.6GHz dual AMD Fusion E350 + Hudson M1 | ACPI | {{N/A}} | SATA - 4 SATA3 | {{Maybe|AMD 6310 - use vesa with hdmi and dvi}} | {{Yes|Audio ALC892 playback but no HDMI output}} | USB - 4 USB2.0 and 2 USB3.0 | {{Yes|rtl8169 for Realtek 8111E 8411 ethernet chipset}} | 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-E350N-USB3 mini-ITX | <!--Chipset--> Hudson M1 FCH | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 SATA3 | <!--Gfx--> plus HDMI, DVI | <!--Audio-->ALC892 | <!--USB-->2 NEC USB3.0 with 4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-E350N Win8 V1.0 | <!--Chipset-->Hudson M1 FCH A45 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 SATA3 | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Use VESA - AMD 6310 plus HDMI, DVI}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC887 playback through headphones but not thru hdmi}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|4 USB2.0 needs more testing}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8111 8168B}} | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - works well but need to test with sata hard disk |- | <!--Name-->MSI E350IA-E45 | <!--Chipset-->e-350 + Hudson M1 + DDR3 | <!--ACPI-->no support | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 Sata3 ports | <!--Gfx-->AMD 6310 gpu | <!--Audio-->ALC HDA | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 and 2 USB3.0 through NEC 720200 chipset | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS E45M1-M PRO | <!--Chipset-->E450 APU with Hudson M1 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS E45M1-I Deluxe | <!--Chipset-->E-450 together | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket FM1 (2011/13)===== On board Graphic on CPU - HD6410D, HD6530D, HD6550D, {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS F1A55-M LE | <!--Chipset--> with AMD A55 FCH (Hudson D2) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->6 x SATA 3Gbit/s port(s), blue Support Raid 0, 1, 10, JBOD | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 2.0 slot or Integrated AMD Radeon™ HD 6000 in Llano APU | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC887 Audio CODEC | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 ports | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E rtl8169 | <!--Opinion-->2012 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - A-Series/E2- Series APUs up to 4 cores - 2 x DIMM, Max. 32GB, DDR3 2250(O.C.)/1866/1600/1333/1066 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory Dual Channel Memory Architecture - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket FM2 White Socket (2012/13)===== Onboard Gfx on CPU - HD6570, HD7480D, HD7540D, {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A75 A85X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket FM2 Plus Black socket (2013/15)===== Onboard Gfx on CPU - HD6570, HD7480D, HD7540D, {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A88X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket AM1 FS1b socket (2014/1x)===== 5350 4 core Jaguar cores 2GHz with Integrated AMD Radeon R Series Graphics in the APU Kabini [Radeon HD 8400] Later Beema APU with 2/4 core Puma (slightly updated Jaguar) cores, GCN graphics and a compute capable Radeon core, along with a brand new AMD security processor and FT3 BGA packaging (probably best avoided for long term survival). {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS AM1I-A | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio Realtek® ALC887-VD | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111GR 8168 | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit may support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->MSI AM1I | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111G | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI AM1M | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111G | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->BGA FT3 AM1x |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket AM4 FM3 Summit Ridge Zen Zen+ (2016/22)===== Jim Keller’s group designed x86 Zen CPU - new and covering the same AM4 platform/socket for desktop Zen will also shift from Bulldozer’s Clustered Multithreading (CMT) to Simultaneous Multithreading (SMT, aka Intel’s Hyperthreading). CMT is the basis for Bulldozer’s unusual combination of multiple integer cores sharing a single FPU within a module, so the move to SMT is a more “traditional” design for improving resource usage Trusted Platform Module, or fTPM, that Windows 11 requires. Ryzen processors using a firmware TPM are causing stutters, even when doing mundane tasks. To enable TPM 2.0 on your AMD system please follow the steps below. <pre> Power on system and press DEL or F2 to get into the BIOS. Navigate to Advanced\CPU Configuration. Enable AMD fTPM switch. Press F10 to save changes. </pre> {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero | <!--Chipset-->X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 (1x16 or 2x8) | <!--Audio-->SupremeFX audio features an S1220 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel I211 | <!--Opinion-->Ryzen 7 1800X 1700X |- | <!--Name-->Biostar X370gtn Itx Am4 | <!--Chipset-->AMD X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek Dragon LAN RTL8118AS | <!--Opinion--> 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-AX370 K7 | <!--Chipset--> X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with 2 x Realtek® ALC1220 codec 0x10EC, 0x0295 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->1 intel and 1 E2500 | <!--Opinion--> 4 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->MSI Xpower Gaming Titanium | <!--Chipset--> X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->8-channel Realtek 1220 Codec 0x10EC, 0x0295 | <!--USB-->ASMedia® ASM2142 and amd cpu | <!--Ethernet-->1 x Intel® I211AT Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion--> 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Prime B350 Plus ATX | <!--Chipset-->B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 mode) | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC887 8-Channel | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->Ryzen 5 1600x 1600 1500X 1400 - 4 x DIMM Max 64GB, DDR4 up to 2666MHz ECC and non-ECC Memory - ATX 12 inch x 9.35 inch ( 30.5 cm x 23.7 cm ) - 2 pci |- | <!--Name-->Asus PRIME B350M-A/CSM Micro ATX | <!--Chipset-->AMD B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek LAN | <!--Opinion-->Ryzen 3 1300x 1200 1100 |- | <!--Name-->AsRock Pro4 AB350 | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe 3.0 x16, 4 PCIe 2.0 x1 | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->2017 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac | <!--Chipset--> B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic Mortar | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 (x16 mode) | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->white and grey colours - 2 pci-e and 2 pci slots - m.2 in middle - atx 12 in by 9.6 in and matx versions - |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue M-ATX B350M-TI | <!--Chipset-->B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue B350I-Plus ITX | <!--Chipset-->B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock A320M-ITX MINI ITX Rev1.0 Rev2 Rev2.1 | <!--Chipset-->A320 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2018 |- | <!--Name-->Asus PRIME A320M-C R2.0 rev1.1 A320M-K | <!--Chipset-->A320 A/B300 SFF | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HD audio with Realtek ALC887 alc897 CODEC | <!--USB-->2 usb 3.1 gen 1 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2019 64bit - 3rd/2nd/1st Gen AMD Ryzen™ / 2nd and 1st Gen AMD Ryzen™ with Radeon™ Vega |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI A320M-A PRO MicroATX | <!--Chipset-->AMD A320 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio Realtek® ALC892 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 8111H | <!--Opinion-->2019 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG X399 Zenith Extreme | <!--Chipset-->AMD X399 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> supremefx s1220 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Opinion-->Threadripper 1950X 1920X 1900X TR4 skt |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->AsRock Fatality X470 Gaming K4 mATX | <!--Chipset-->X470 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->nvme | <!--Gfx-->pci-e rebar possible | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asrock Fatal1ty X470 Gaming-ITXac AMD AM4 | <!--Chipset-->AMD X470 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS ROG STRIX X470-I GAMING AM4 ITX Motherboard | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus B450-I Gaming | <!--Chipset-->AMD B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->high VRM temps - raven ridge 14nm+ like 2200G 2400G |- | <!--Name-->AsRock B450 Gaming K4 | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> alc892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> 4 ddr4 slots - low VRM thermals 3900x 3950x |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte B450 I Aorus Pro Wifi | <!--Chipset-->AMD B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 nvme pcie3 with 4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pcie | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek® ALC1220-VB codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Opinion-->very high vrm temps |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue B450i Gaming ITX | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata3 - none nvme | <!--Gfx-->pcie3 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->1G | <!--Opinion-->2021 64 2nd 3rd AMD - 2 ddr4 dimm slots |- | <!--Name-->MSI b450 tomahawk max | <!--Chipset--> b450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{n/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HD audio with Realtek® ALC892 Codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111H | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450 Pro Carbon | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> ALC codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450-A PRO | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111h | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450I GAMING Plus AC ITX | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2019 - 2nd and 3rd gen AMD - 2 ddr4 slots - |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450 GAMING PLUS MAX | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek® ALC892/ALC897 Codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111H | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MAXSUN AMD Challenger B450M M-ATX (aka Soyo) | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASRock X570 PHANTOM GAMING-ITX/TB3 Mini ITX AM4 | <!--Chipset-->X570 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->nvme | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 4.0 | <!--Audio--> ALC1200 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero | <!--Chipset-->AMD X570 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> SupremeFX7.1 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel® I211-AT and Realtek® RTL8125-CG 2.5G LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> alc1220 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Strix B550-i AM4 ITX Motherboard | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 - |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue Jingyue B550i Gaming itx | <!--Chipset-->B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->3 with 1 nvme | <!--Gfx-->1 pci-e 4 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio alc | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->1G | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit max of Ryzen 5500 (c t), 5600, 5600g (6c12t) - 2 ddr4 |- | <!--Name-->Asrock B550 PHANTOM GAMING ITX/AX | <!--Chipset-->AMD B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> alc1220 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel 2.5G | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->AsRock B550M-ITX/ac | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> Realtek ALC887/897 Audio Codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion-->2022 - 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING | <!--Chipset-->B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->PCIe Gen4 x4 & SATA3 | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 4 | <!--Audio--> supremefx S1220A | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel® I225-V 2.5Gb | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte AMD B550I AORUS PRO AX Mini-ITX rev 1.0 | <!--Chipset-->AMD B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme pci-e3 with 4 sata3 | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC1220-VB codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 2.5GbE LAN | <!--Opinion-->2021 2 x DDR4 DIMM sockets 1Rx8/2Rx8/1Rx16 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX | <!--Chipset-->B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 DP and hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC1200 | <!--USB-->USB3 USB 3.2 Gen1 Type-C | <!--Ethernet-->2.5GbE LAN | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit- finer tuning than A520's - AMD Ryzen 5000 Series/ 3rd Gen Ryzen and 3rd Gen Ryzen with Radeon Graphics CPU - Dual Channel ECC/ Non-ECC Unbuffered DDR4, 4 DIMMs - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX | <!--Chipset--> B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio ALC887 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->realtek rtl8118 | <!--Opinion-->2021 64bit - 4 ddr4 dimms - |- | <!--Name-->MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX | <!--Chipset--> B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC892 | <!--USB-->USB 3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111H | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Processors - 4 dimm ddr4 - |- | <!--Name-->MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX | <!--Chipset--> B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe 1 x M.2, Socket 3, M Key (up to Type 22110) and 1 x M.2, Socket 3, M Key (Type 2242/2260/2280) | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 with dp and hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDaudio ALC1200 | <!--USB-->USB3 1 x USB 3.1 Type-C and 1 x USB 3.1 Type-A | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8125B and Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - 4 Dimm slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue A520M-H mATX | <!--Chipset-->A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> old bios with random issues with APU ryzens - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte A520M S2H mATX | <!--Chipset-->AMD A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 1GbE | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit Zen3 65W and up - 2 ddr4 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte A520I AC mITX mini-itx | <!--Chipset-->AMD A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit Zen3 65W and up 5600G (6c12t) or 5700G (8c16t) - 2 ddr4 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->MSI A520M-A PRO mATX | <!--Chipset-->A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe 1 x M.2, Socket 3, M Key (Type 2242/2260/2280) | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC892 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111H | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - 2 ddr4 dimm slots - 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Desktop and AMD Ryzen 4000 G-Series CPU |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} ===== (Socket AM5 LGA1718 Zen4 2022/2x)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asrock Steel Legend | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e rnda2 | <!--Audio-->HD audio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - ddr5 ecc (10 chip) and non-ecc (8 chips) 64Gb @ 6000Mhz or 128GB @ 4800Mhz - |- | <!--Name-->Asrock TaiChi | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e rnda2 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio | <!--USB-->USB4 with Thunderbolt 4 equivalent | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek killer E3000 2.5GbE}} | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - ddr5 ecc (10 chip) and non-ecc (8 chips) |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Crosshair Hero | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe rnda2 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->rnda3 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit 7950x3d 120W, 7900 7800 7600 90W |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->rnda3 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus B650E-I | <!--Chipset-->B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 5 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2023 - better sound with an actual AMP, PCIe 5, USB-C display outs - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x650 B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x650 B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x650 B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MAXSUN AMD Challenger B650M WIFI M-ATX (aka Soyo) | <!--Chipset-->B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI b650i mini itx | <!--Chipset-->B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 4 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->2023 - front panel connectors at the back of the board - dead rear nvme slot and a drained CMOS battery as the CMOS button being pressed during shipping - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M Zen4 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> Zen5 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> Zen6 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} ===== (Zen? AM? 203x/3x)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} ====Intel==== [[#top|...to the top]] =====Socket 370 (2000/2)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Intel D815EEA | <!--Chipset-->866Mhz P3 and i815 chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia AGPx8 6200LE added}} | <!--Audio-->{{N/A}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|2 USB1.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested AspireOS 1.7, simple basic board with useful 5 PCI slots |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket 478 (2002/4)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->[http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://detail.zol.com.cn/motherboard/index46381.shtml&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dc.865pe.l%2Bmotherboard%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DsZB%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official Colorful Technology C.865PE-L Silver Fighter Warrior V2.3] | <!--Chipset-->865PE | <!--ACPI-->{{dunno| }} | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|tested with CDROM}} | <!--SATA-->{{dunno| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|AGP slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|ALC650 AC97}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 1.1 and 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8100 8139}} | <!--Opinion-->Still testing with NB (Nightly Build) May 2013 |- | <!--Name-->Intel 845 | <!--Chipset-->865P | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{No|intel 800}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 AD1985}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|e1000}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested ICAROS 1.3 |- | <!--Name-->Intel 845 | <!--Chipset-->865GC | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{No|intel 865 Extreme Graphics 2}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 AD1985}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|e1000}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested ICAROS 1.3 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA775 s775 (2005/8)===== an industry standard DDR2 module could in theory contain fallback JEDEC, intel XMP and AMD EPP configuration data Intel PC CL5 ram modules but an "AMD" CL5 ram module the BIOS cannot read the AMD EPP info on the SPD (Serial Presence Detect) but can recognize the CL5 timing info in the JEDEC data table. PC BIOS auto configures for the AMD ram module and boots normally. an AMD PC CL6 ram modules but an "INTEL" CL6 ram module the BIOS cannot read the INTEL XMP info on the SPD but can recognize the CL6 timing info in JEDEC data table. PC BIOS auto configures for the AMD ram module and boots normally. an INTEL PC needs CL6 ram modules but have an "AMD" CL4 ram module. INTEL BIOS cannot read the AMD EPP info on the SPD but can recognize the CL4 timing info in JEDEC data table. PC BIOS recognizes module timings as incompatible an refuses to boot. entirely separate issue if the RAM module timing specs are incompatible.(i.e. CL4 RAM in a "CL6 only" PC) {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Abit AG8 | <!--Chipset-->P915 + ICH6R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports SATA1 | <!--Gfx-->1 PCIe x16 Slot | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC658 AC97 | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8110S-32 | <!--Opinion-->2004 32bit - Firewire TI 4200R7T no |- | <!--Name-->MSI 915 Neo2 | <!--Chipset-->P915 + ICH6R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports SATA1 | <!--Gfx-->1 PCIe x16 Slot | <!--Audio-->CMI 9880L HD Audio | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcomm BCM5751 PCIe}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VIA VT6306 no |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5GC P5GC-MX | <!--Chipset-->P945GC Lakeport-GC + ICH7R northbridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 3.0 Gbit/s ports | <!--Gfx-->1 PCIe 1.1 slot | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC662 codec | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 usb2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|atheros L2}} | <!--Opinion-->2005 32bit - 3 pci slots - 4 x 240-pin DIMM Sockets max. 4GB DDR2 667/533 non-ECC - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Foxconn PC45CM-SA 45CM-S | <!--Chipset-->945GC with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 sata2 ports | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|pcie 1.0 slot with gma950 integrated}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with aLC883 codec playback}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|realtek 8139 8100sc}} | <!--Opinion-->2 dimm slots 667mhz max 4gb - can be found in Advent desktops - 2 pci-e and 2 pci - core 2 duo only e6xxx - Micro ATX (9.6” x 8.8”) - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-81945GM MFY-RH | <!--Chipset-->Intel® 945GM Express with ICH7M-DH | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA950 VGA15 and PCI-e 1.0 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC880 codec playback only rear port}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 usb 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO1000PL 82573L Gigabit Ethernet}} | <!--Opinion-->2006 MoDT term “Mobile on DeskTop.”, low TDP CPUs to work on desktop form-factor motherboards. mATX Micro ATX 24.4cm x 24.4cm - 2 DDR2 dimm 1.8v slots with 4Gb max - will not boot if PCI2 slot occupied - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-945 GCM S2C | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662 (1.x)}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|8101E Rtl 8169 (1.x)}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA945-GCM S2L | <!--Chipset-->945GC with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCi-E slot | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD Audio with ALC662 codec 2/4/5.1-channel (1.x)}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8111c 8169 (1.x)}} | <!--Opinion-->2 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM 4GB DDR2 memory max - 2 PCI-e and 2 PCI - Micro ATX form factor; 24.4cm x 19.3cm - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 945P Neo-F rev 1.0 | <!--Chipset-->P945 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCie 1.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC662 HDA | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->8110SC (rtl8169) | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 945P Neo2-F rev 1.2 | <!--Chipset-->P945 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCie 1.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC850 AC97 | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->8110SC (rtl8169) | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-P31-DS3L | <!--Chipset-->P31 with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCI Express x16 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC888 codec | <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111B | <!--Opinion-->DDR2 800Mhz up to 4Gb 4 x 240 pin - 3 PCI - ATX 12.0" x 8.3" - |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5KPL-AM /PS | <!--Chipset-->G31 with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->4 xSATA 3 Gbit/s ports | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 1.1 with integrated Intel® GMA 3100 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA VT1708B with ALC662 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8102EL 100/10 LAN with Realtek RTL8111C Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion-->2 x 2 GB DDR2 Non-ECC,Un-buffered DIMMs with 2 PCI - Intel Graphics Media Accelerator - |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5KPL/EPU | <!--Chipset-->G31 with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Pci-e 1.0 slot | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8169 Realtek 8111C}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested - 4 240-pin DIMM, Max. 4 GB - 4 pci-e and 3 pci - ATX Form Factor 12 inch x 8.2 inch ( 30.5 cm x 20.8 cm ) - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G31M ES2L | <!--Chipset-->G31 plus ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 3100 2d}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC883 (1.x), ALC883/888B (2.x)}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|RTL8111C (1.x), Atheros 8131 (2.x)}} | <!--Opinion-->reduces DRAM capacity to 4GB |- | <!--Name-->ASRock G31M-S r1.0 G31M-GS | <!--Chipset-->G31 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|4 sata2}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GMA 3100 2d not 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{partial|rtl8169 RTL8111DL 8169 (for -GS) RTL8102EL (for -S)}} | <!--Opinion-->2007 64bit Core2 - 2 DDR2 800 max 8Gig AMI bios MicroATX - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock G31M-S r2.0 | <!--Chipset-->G31 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|4 sata2}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GMA 3100 2d not 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL 8111DL 8169}} | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit core2 - 2 DDR2 800 max 8Gig MicroATX |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/apac/eng/products/desktop/bdb/dg31pr/feature/index.htm Intel DG31PR] | <!--Chipset-->iG31 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|3100 but can use PCIe 1.1 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888 playback}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8111B Rtl 8169}} | <!--Opinion-->good support |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Intel G33 Express Chipset with ich9 southbridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Intel 3100 powervr tile based | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit - embedded on Core 2 Quad, Core 2 Duo, Pentium Dual-Core CPUS with Integrated GPU Intel GMA 3100 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS P5G41T-M LX | <!--Chipset-->G41 + ICH8 + DDR3 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|X4500 some 2d only)}} | <!--Audio-->ALC887 | <!--USB-->3 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros L1c AR8131}} | <!--Opinion-->reduces maximum supported memory ddr3 from 16 to 8GB 2 dimm slots non-EEC - demotes the PCIe controller mode from revision 2.0 (5.0GT/s) to revision 1.1 (2.5GT/s |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G41MT S2 | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->VT1708S (1.3), ALC887-VD2 (1.4), ALC887 (2.1), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Atheros AR8151 l1c (1.x 2.x), | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G41MT S2PT | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC887 (1.0), VIA (2.0), ALC887 (2.1) | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8111E (1.x), Atheros AR8151 l1c (2.1), | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G41MT D3 | <!--Chipset-->G41 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 Port | <!--SATA-->4 Ports | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|GMA X4500 2d only and pci-e 1.1 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888B}} | <!--USB-->4 ports + headers | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8111 D/E}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-P41T D3P | <!--Chipset-->G41 + ICH7 with Intel Core 2 Duo (E6xxx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4ports | <!--Gfx-->GMA X4500 2d | <!--Audio-->ALC888 889/892 | <!--USB-->4 ports | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8111C or D/E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Intel DG41AN Classic | <!--Chipset-->iG41 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx-->X4500 2d | <!--Audio-->ALC888S ALC888VC | <!--USB-->4 ports | <!--Ethernet-->8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->AsRock P5B-DE | <!--Chipset-->P965 + ICH8 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|works ide legacy}} |<!--Gfx-->{{Yes|with PCI-E 1.1 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio via VT1708S}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8169}} | <!--Opinion-->2006 works well |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5B SE | <!--Chipset-->965 intel | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{N/A}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio ALC662 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No| }} | <!--Opinion-->works well except ethernet |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5W DH Deluxe P5WDG2 WS PRO | <!--Chipset-->975X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->2 ports | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe x16 slots | <!--Audio-->ALC882 AND LATER ADI 1988B | <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8052 88E8053}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TI TSB43AB22A no |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Abit IP35 | <!--Chipset-->P35 Express + ICH9R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 ports | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC888 HDA | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->two RTL8110SC | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Texas TSB43 AB22A no |- | <!--Name-->MSI P35 Neo F FL MS-7630 rev 1 | <!--Chipset-->Intel P35 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 1.1 support | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC888 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->Base model of this range of P35 mobos |- | <!--Name-->GA-P35-DS3 | <!--Chipset-->P35 and ICH9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC889A codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111B | <!--Opinion-->2008 - 4 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets max 8 GB - |- | <!--Name-->GA-EP35-DS3 (rev. 2.1) | <!--Chipset-->Intel® P35 + ICH9 Chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{unk|}} | <!--SATA-->{{unk|4 }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{unk|Realtek ALC889A codec }} | <!--USB-->{{yes | }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8111B}} | <!--Opinion-->good |- | <!--Name-->Abit IX38 Quad GT | <!--Chipset-->X38 / ICH9R Chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCI-E 2.0 slot | <!--Audio--> HD Audio ALC888 | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL 8110SC 8169SC | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Texas TSB 43AB22A no |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte X38-DQ6 | <!--Chipset-->X38 / ICH9R Chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCI-E 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC889A HDA | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->twin 8111B 8169 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-EP45 DS3 (2008) | <!--Chipset-->P45 + ICH9 or ICH10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 x SATA 3Gbit/s (SATAII0, SATAII1, SATAII2, SATAII3, SATAII4, SATAII5) | <!--Gfx-->two PCI-E v2.0 x16 slots support splitting its 16 PCIe 2.0 lanes across two cards at x8 transfers | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC888 or ALC889A codec | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->2 x Realtek 8111C chips (10/100 /1000 Mbit) | <!--Opinion-->4 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets non-EEC |- | <!--Name-->MSI P45 Platinum (2008) | <!--Chipset-->P45 + ICH9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 sata2 ports | <!--Gfx-->two PCI-E x16 v2.0 slots | <!--Audio-->ALC888 HD Audio | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->G45 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->adds Intel’s GMA X4500HD graphics engine to P45 Express features | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->G43 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->GMA X4500 2d | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->removes HD video acceleration from the G45’s features |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5E Deluxe | <!--Chipset--> X48 with ICH9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ADI 1988B codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Marvell 88E8001 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->GigaByte GA-X48 DQ6 | <!--Chipset-->X48 plus ICH9R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->8 ports | <!--Gfx-->two PCI-E x16 v2.0 slots | <!--Audio-->ALC889A | <!--USB-->8 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8111B 8169 | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TSB43AB23 no - ICH9 pairs with Intel’s 3-series (X38, P35, etc.) chipsets, in addition to the X48 Express, but excluding the G35 Express |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte EP43-DS3L and Gigabyte GA-EP43-UD3L | <!--Chipset-->P43 with ICH10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 x SATA 3Gbit/s connectors | <!--Gfx-->1 x PCI Express x16 slot PCI Express 2.0 standard | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC888 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8111C | <!--Opinion-->4 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets - 4 pcie x1 - 2 pci - ATX Form Factor; 30.5cm x 21.0cm |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte 73-pvm-s2h rev.1.0 | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA GeForce 7100 nForce 630i | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|1 port}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|3 ports SATA2}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d GeForce 7100 (vga /hdmi/dvi), 1 PCIe x16 Slot }} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ALC889A MCP73}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|7 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL 8211B MCP73}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Not, tested with Icaros Desktop 2.0.3 MCP73 is a single chip solution in three different versions |- | <!--Name-->Nvidia 7150 630i | <!--Chipset-->intel based nForce 630i (MCP73) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|ide legacy}} | <!--GFX-->GF 7150 | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD AUDIO ALC883}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|ohci echi}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8201C}} | <!--Opinion-->being tested |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2.0 x16 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> the MCP73PV or the GeForce 7050/nForce 630i |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->the MCP73S or the GeForce7025/nForce 630i |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->the MCP73V or the GeForce 7025/nForce 610i |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Atom SOC (2008/2x)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->D945CLF | <!--Chipset-->N230 single core | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|GMA945}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662}} Skt 441 | <!--USB-->{{yes|uhci and ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} | <!--Opinion-->works very well |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.clusteruk.com iMica D945GCKF2 mobo] | <!--Chipset-->Intel Atom N330 Dual Core | <!--ACPI-->wip | <!--IDE-->{{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|gma}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD AUDIO}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|uhci ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->D945GSEJT + Morex T1610 | <!--Chipset-->Atom 230 with 945GSE | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|GMA900 vga but issues with DVI output}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio with ALC662 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169 8111DL}} | <!--Opinion-->small size, runs off 12V |- | <!--Name-->ASUS AT3N7A-I | <!--Chipset-->Atom N330 Nvidia ION | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|3 ports legacy IDE}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|nouveau cube cube 2 45 quake 3 }} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with VIA 1708S codec playback}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169 device}} | <!--Opinion--><ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAiJpvu73iw</ref> good but can freeze randomly at times |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->D410PT 45nm pinetrail | <!--Chipset-->D410 and NM10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|ide legacy}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GMA3150}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC262 or ALC66x odd clicks}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8111DL}} | <!--Opinion-->some support |- | <!--Name-->45nm pinetrail | <!--Chipset-->D510 and NM10 + GMA3150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->GMA3150 | <!--Audio-->ALC888B or ALC66x | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8111DL | <!--Opinion-->some support |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-D525TUD (rev. 1.0 1.2 1.5) | <!--Chipset-->D525 NM10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->gma 3150 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111f | <!--Opinion-->2012 64 - 2 ddr3 dimm slots max 8g - Mini-ITX Form Factor; 17.0cm x 17.0cm - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- |} =====Socket 1366 (2009/10)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P6T DELUXE | <!--Chipset-->x58 + ICH10 and Intel 1st gen. (Nehalem/Lynnfield) Core i7 (8xx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|1 port}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe x16 (r2.0) slots | <!--Audio-->ADI AD2000B HD Audio | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Marvell 88E8056 Gigabit}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VIA VT6308 no |- | <!--Name-->gigabyte ex58 ds | <!--Chipset--> x58 + ICH10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111D rtl8169 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket 1156 (2010)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire M3910 | <!--Chipset-->i3 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA intel HD}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|HDAudio with Realtek ALC}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk| Realtek}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2H | <!--Chipset-->H55 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe slot | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|ALCxxx playback}} ALC888B (Rev1.x) | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8111D}} (Rev 1.x) | <!--Opinion-->Tested but no support for WLAN Realtek 8188su |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI H55M-E33 v1.0 | <!--Chipset-->E7636 M7636 H55 chipset so older i3/i5/i7 system | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio ALC889}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|PCI-E Realtek 8111DL}} | <!--Opinion-->Works well |- | <!--Name-->Asus P7P55D | <!--Chipset-->P55 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{unk| }} | <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{maybe | via codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe |rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111B/C RTL8112L }} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA 1155 H2 (2010/13)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS P8H61-I LX R2.0 | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->1 pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111f | <!--Opinion-->2013 - up to ivybridge cpus - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->Asus P8H61-I/RM/SI mini-itx | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2012 64 up to i3-2010 - OEM board from an RM machine but not ivybridge as the Asus BIOS isn't compatible with these, 0909 hacked one might work - |- | <!--Name-->asus p8h61-i lx r2.0/rm/si mini itx | <!--Chipset-->h61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2.0 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with VIA codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111e | <!--Opinion-->2012 sandy and ivy - oem from rm machine 2 x 240-Pin DDR3 DIMM sockets max DDR3 1333MHz - |- | <!--Name-->‎Bewinner 63q9c7omvs V301 ITX | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata with nvme | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 4 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8106E 100M Network Card | <!--Opinion-->2022 64 |- | <!--Name-->Biostar H61 H61MHV2 H61MHV3 Ver. 7.0 | <!--Chipset-->H61 with Intel Pentium G 2xxx series CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC662 later ALC897 | <!--USB-->4 usb2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->2014 - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H61M-D2-B3 | <!--Chipset-->H61 + Sandybridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC889 | <!--USB-->2 ports | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H61MA-D3V | <!--Chipset-->H61 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Maybe No Realtek ALC887 (Rev 2.0) ALC887 (Rev2.1) | <!--USB-->2 ports | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->GA-H61M-S2PV | <!--Chipset-->H61 with 2400k 2500k 2600k 2700k | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC887 (rev 1.0 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3) | <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Rtl811E (1.0) 8151 (2.0) Rtl8111F (2.1 2.2 2.3) | <!--Opinion-->Micro ATX Form Factor; 24.4cm x 20cm with 2 pci-e and 2 pci - |- | <!--Name-->Intel Classic Series DH61CR Desktop | <!--Chipset-->H61 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC892 | <!--USB-->4 ports | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82579V}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI H61M-P20 (G3) MS-7788 *retail MSI board *OEM Advent, etc | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|four SATAII ports}} | <!--Gfx-->1 PCI Express gen3 (retail) gen2 (oem) x16 slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8105E 100M Network Card}} | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - 2 ddr3 slots - 22.6cm(L) x 17.3cm(W) M-ATX Form Factor - BIOS - [https://www.arosworld.org/infusions/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=1149&rowstart=140&pid=6009#post_6007 works well], |- | <!--Name-->MSI H61I-E35 (B3) MS-7677 Ver.1.2 | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2d for hdmi}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|https://www.arosworld.org/infusions/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=1149&rowstart=140&pid=5861#post_5861 works}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P8H67-M | <!--Chipset-->H67 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata3 - 4 sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC887 | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P8Z68-V LX | <!--Chipset-->Z68 + Intel 2nd generation (Sandy Bridge) Core i7 (2xxx) CPU and possibly ivybridgev | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|2 sata3 - 4 sata2}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio Intel HD with ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 USB3.0 - 4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek® 8111E}} | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit SSE 4.1 and AVX - EFI bios - 4 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 (B3) | <!--Chipset-->Z68 + Ivybridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata3 - 4 sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC889 | <!--USB-->2 USB3.0 - 4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->H77 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H77-D3H 1.0 1.1 | <!--Chipset-->H77 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata 3.0 | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio VIA VT2021 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros GbE LAN chip}} | <!--Opinion-->2013 64bit i5 3550 7 3770 - 4 DDR3 slots - 2 full pci-e 2 pci slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA Z77 D3H with i3 3225 dual | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio VIA VT2021 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros GbE LAN chip}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA 1150 H3 (2013/2016)===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H87N-WIFI mITX | <!--Chipset-->H87 and Intel 4th generation (Haswell) Core i5 (4xxx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel Atheros | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus H81M-C H81M-P-SI | <!--Chipset-->H81 with 4th generation (Haswell) Core i7 (4xxx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2x3g 2x6g | <!--Gfx-->pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->hdaudio alc887 vd | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8111gr | <!--Opinion-->skt 1150 - 2 ddr3 max 16g - mini atx - |- | <!--Name-->Asus H81T | <!--Chipset-->H81 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->HD4000 igpu only | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC887-VD | <!--USB-->Intel USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 realtek 8111G | <!--Opinion-->2013 64bit intel 4th gen mini itx - external dc brick with 19v rare barrel pin 7.4MM x 5.0MM - 2 ddr3 laptop sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H81M-S2V | <!--Chipset-->H81 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC887 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® GbE LAN chip | <!--Opinion-->2014 64bit up to i7 4790K - 2 DDR3 slots - |- | <!--Name-->GA-H81M-D3V (rev. 1.0) | <!--Chipset-->H81 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|2 sata2 2 sata3 }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{unk| HDAudio Realtek® ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|intel and VIA® VL805}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|rtl8169 Realtek }} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Z87-K | <!--Chipset-->Z87 with 4th generation (Haswell) Core i7 4c8t i5 4c4t CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H | <!--Chipset-->Z87 Express | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with Realtek® ALC898 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA H97M D3H r1.0 r1.1 with i3 4360 or 4370 dual | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Z97 A with i7 4790K | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->750, 960, 970 and 980 nvidia GTX cards | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan ethernet | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA Z97X UD3H rev1.0 1.1 1.2 | <!--Chipset-->Z97 with i5 4690K | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with ALC1150 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI GAMING 5 Z97 | <!--Chipset-->Z97 with 4th generation (Haswell) Core i7 4c8t CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS Q87M-E | <!--Chipset-->Q87 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2014 64bit - 4 DDR3 slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->H99 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA 1151 Socket H4 (2015/2018)===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->Skylake CPUs have TPM 2.0 imbedded |- | <!--Name-->Asus H110 Plus H110M-A/DP | <!--Chipset--> with 6th Gen Core and 7th with bios update | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Sunrise Point-H SATA [AHCI mode] [8086 a102] | <!--Gfx-->{{No|Skylake Integrated HD Graphics use PIC-E slot}} | <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC887 Audio CODEC | <!--USB-->Sunrise Point-H USB 3.0 xHCI [8086: a12f] no usb2.0 fallback | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8111GR or 8111H RTL8111 8168 8411}} | <!--Opinion-->ATX with 3 pci-e and 2 DDR4 slots - uatx version smaller - turn off TLSF as it was causing AHI driver to corrupt. Turned off ACPI for errors but works fine once booted - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS H110M-R M-ATX | <!--Chipset-->H110 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 x SATA 6Gb/s | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio Realtek® ALC887 codec | <!--USB-->Intel USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->2016 64bit 6th Gen Skylake Core™ i7/Core™ 6950X i7-6970HQ i7-6700K 4c8t hyperthreading, i5/Core™ i5-6600K 4c4t i3/Pentium® / Celeron® - 2 DDR4 DIMMS Max 32GB 2133MHz - 1 full pci-e and 2 pci-e 1 - |- | <!--Name-->Asus H110T | <!--Chipset-->H110 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->intel igpu only | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Dual Intel/Realtek GbE languard | <!--Opinion-->2016 - mini itx 12v / 19v laptop type rare barrel pin 7.4MM x 5.0MM - 2 sodimm ddr4 slots - no pci-e slot - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2H MATX Rev1.0 | <!--Chipset-->H110 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC887 codec | <!--USB-->2 (USB 3.1 Gen 1) ports with 4 us2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® GbE LAN | <!--Opinion--> 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->Msi H110M-PRO-VH | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 x SATA 6Gb/s | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 | <!--Audio--> Realtek® ALC887 Codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111h | <!--Opinion--> 6th gen intel - 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus H170 Pro Gaming | <!--Chipset-->H170 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->Asmedia USB3.1/3.0 | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI Z170A TOMAHAWK | <!--Chipset-->Z170 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sara, 1 x 2280 Key M(PCIe Gen3 x4/SATA), 1 x 2230 Key E(Wi-Fi) | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan | <!--Opinion-->2016 64bit up to i7 7700k - 2 DDR4 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->GIGABYTE GA-B250M-DS3H HD3P D3H D2V | <!--Chipset-->B250 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2018 coffee lake intel 8th gen |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus | <!--Chipset--> with Kaby Lake X Intel 7th Gen | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> up to 16 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus | <!--Chipset--> Z390 with Kaby Lake X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> up to 16 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> Q370M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> H370M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> B360M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Rampage | <!--Chipset-->x299 with i9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> - up to 24 to 44 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte | <!--Chipset--X299 > | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket LGA 1200 (2020/2022)===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->MSI H510M-A PRO (MS-7D22) | <!--Chipset--> with 10th gen Comet Lake X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2021 64bit - up to 16 pcie lanes rebar possible |- | <!--Name-->Asus PRIME H410M-E Asrock H470M-HDV/M.2 | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus | <!--Chipset--> with 11th gen Rocket Lake X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> up to 16 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket LGA 1700 (2023/ )===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Alder Lake / 14th gen Raptor Lake | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2021 2022 64bit - QoS work to 2 level cpus, P down to E cores - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Meteor Lake / 15th gen Arrow Lake | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2023 2024 64bit 10nm - 3 level cpus, Low Power Island (SOC tile) to E onto P cores - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Lunar lake | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2025 64bit 7nm - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} ===Chromebooks=== For most (EOL) cromebooks, the recommended UEFI path forward is to: *put the device into Developer Mode *disable firmware write protection *flash MrChromebox's UEFI Full ROM firmware *install ChromeOS Flex, Linux, etc See [https://mrchromebox.tech/#home MrChrome], [https://mrchromebox.tech MrChrome] and the [https://www.reddit.com/r/chrultrabook/ chrultrabook subreddit] for more info ChromeOS has several different boot modes, which are important to understand in the context of modifying your device to run an alternate OS: *Normal/Verified Boot Mode Can only boot Google-signed ChromeOS images Full verification of firmware and OS kernel No root access to the system, no ability to run Linux or boot other OSes Automatically enters Recovery Mode if any step of Verified Boot fails Default / out-of-the-box setting for all ChromeOS devices *Recovery Mode User presented with Recovery Mode boot screen (white screen with 'ChromeOS is missing or damaged') Boots only USB/SD with signed Google recovery image Automatically entered when Verified Boot Mode fails Can be manually invoked: On Chromebooks, via keystroke: [ESC+Refresh+Power] On Chromeboxes, by pressing a physical recovery button at power-on On Convertibles/Tablets, by holding the Power, Vol+, and Vol- buttons for 10s and then release Allows for transition from Verified Boot Mode to Developer Mode On Chromebooks/Chromeboxes, via keystroke: [CTRL+D] On Convertibles/Tablets, via button press: Vol+/Vol- simultaneously Booting recovery media on USB/SD will repartition/reformat internal storage and reload ChromeOS Note: The ChromeOS recovery process does not reset the firmware boot flags (GBB Flags), so if those are changed from the default, they will still need to be reset for factory default post-recovery. *Developer Mode "Jailbreak" mode built-in to every ChromeOS device Loosened security restrictions, allows root/shell access, ability to run Linux via crouton Verified Boot (signature checking) disabled by default, but can be re-enabled Enabled via [CTRL+D] on the Recovery Mode boot screen Boots to the developer mode boot screen (white screen with 'OS verification is off' text), The user can select via keystroke <pre> ChromeOS (in developer mode) on internal storage ( [CTRL+D] ) ChromeOS/ChromiumOS on USB ( [CTRL+U] ) Legacy Boot Mode ( [CTRL+L] ) </pre> Boot screen displays the ChromeOS device/board name in the hardware ID string (eg, PANTHER F5U-C92, which is useful to know in the context of device recovery, firmware support, or in determining what steps are required to install a given alternate OS on the device. *Legacy Boot Mode Unsupported method for booting alternate OSes (Linux, Windows) via the SeaBIOS RW_LEGACY firmware Accessed via [CTRL+L] on the developer mode boot screen Requires explicit enabling in Developer Mode via command line: sudo crossystem dev_boot_legacy=1 Most ChromeOS devices require a RW_LEGACY firmware update first Boots to the (black) SeaBIOS splash screen; if multiple boot devices are available, prompt shows the boot menu Note: If you hear two beeps after pressing [CTRL+L], then either your device doesn't have a valid Legacy Boot Mode / RW_LEGACY firmware installed, or legacy boot capability has not been been enabled via crossystem. https://www.howtogeek.com/278953/how-to-install-windows-on-a-chromebook/ Chromebooks don’t officially support other OSs. You normally can’t even install as Chromebooks ship with a special type of BIOS designed for Chrome OS. But there are ways to install, if you’re willing to get your hands dirty and potentially ruin everything [https://mrchromebox.tech/#devices Firmware Compatibility] [https://wiki.galliumos.org/Hardware_Compatibility Here is the list of hardware that the GalliumOS supports and information on getting Gallium OS on to those devices] Development on GalliumOS has been discontinued, and for most users, GalliumOS is not the best option for running Linux due to lack of hardware support or a kernel that's out of date and lacking important security fixes. Meet Eupnea and Depthboot, the successors to Galliumos and Breath [https://eupnea-linux.github.io This is the bleeding edge] Most older Chromebooks need the write-protect screw removed in order to install MrChromebox's firmware that allows you to install other operating systems. Most newer Chromebooks don't work in the same way as there is no write-protect screw on them. Very rough guide to '''total''' (i.e. all cores / threads) processor performance (AROS usually uses only the [https://gmplib.org/gmpbench one core]) [[#top|...to the top]] <pre> 060000 AMD Ryzen 9 7900X (AM5 170W) 056000 AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 055000 AMD Ryzen 9 5900X3D 053000 AMD Ryzen 9 5900X (AM4 105W), AMD Ryzen 9 3950X (105W), 049000 AMD Ryzen 9 PRO 7940HS (FP8 65W) 048000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 047000 AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 7840HS (FP7 65W), AMD Ryzen 7 8840HS, AMD Ryzen Z2 Extreme, 045000 AMD Ryzen 9 6900HX, Intel Core i7-12800H 044000 AMD Ryzen 7 5700G (AM4 ), AMD Ryzen 9 6900HS, 043000 Intel Core i5-13500H, AMD Ryzen 5 5600X3D (AM4 95W), AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 5750GE (AM4 35W) 042000 AMD Ryzen 7 5700GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen Z1 Extreme (top TDP), AMD Ryzen 5 8600G, 041500 AMD Ryzen 9 5900HS, Intel Core i7-12700T, AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS (8c16t 45W), AMD 8840U, 041000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800H (FP6 45W), AMD Ryzen 5 5600 (65W), 040000 AMD Ryzen 7 6800U, Intel Core i5-12490F, Intel Core i5-12500E, 039000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800HS (FP6 35W), AMD Ryzen 5 8500G 8600GE, AMD Ryzen Z2 (8c16t), 037000 AMD Ryzen 5 6600H, AMD Ryzen 3 7736U, AMD Ryzen 5 7640U, 036000 AMD Ryzen 5 3600X (95W), AMD Ryzen 5 5500 (AM4 65W), 035000 AMD Ryzen 5 6600U, Intel Core i5-11400F, AMD Ryzen 5 5600H, 034000 AMD Ryzen 7 7730U (FP6 15W 8c16t), AMD Ryzen 5 8540U, AMD Ryzen 4800H, AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 5650GE, 033000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800U (FP6 25W 8c16t), AMD Ryzen 7 4800HS, AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750GE, 032500 AMD Ryzen 7 2700X, AMD Ryzen 5 5600GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen Z1, AMD Ryzen 7 7840U, 032000 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650G (AM4 45W), AMD Ryzen 7 4800U, AMD Ryzen 7 5825U (FP6 8c16t 15W), 031500 AMD Ryzen 5 4500 (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (65W), AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750U (8c16t), 029000 AMD Ryzen 5 4600G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 1700X (AM4 95W), 028500 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 5675U, AMD Ryzen 7 1700 (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 7 2700 (65W), M3 Pro 12c, 028000 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 5650U, AMD Ryzen 5 4400G, AMD Ryzen 5 5560U (FP6 25W 6c12t Zen3), 027000 AMD Ryzen 5 5600U (FP6 25W 6c12t Zen3), 026500 AMD Ryzen 5 4600HS (FP6 35W 6c12t), Apple M1 Pro, AMD Ryzen 5 5625U (FP6 15W 6c12t), 026000 AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 5350GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen 5 2600 (65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3500X (AM4 95W), 024000 AMD Ryzen 5 1600X (95W), AMD Ryzen 3 5300GE, AMD Ryzen 7 5700U (FP6 25W 8c16t Zen2), 023000 AMD Ryzen 3 7330U (FP6 15W 4c8t), AMD Ryzen 7 4700U (FP6 25W 8c8t), AMD Ryzen V3C18I (? 15W), 022000 Intel Core i5-11300H, AMD Ryzen Z2 Go (4c8t), AMD Ryzen 5 5500U (FP6 25W 6c12t Zen2), 020500 AMD Ryzen 3 4300G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 3 5450U 5425U, AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650U (6c12t), 019500 Intel Core i5-1135G7, AMD Ryzen 5 5500H, AMD Ryzen 5 4600U (FP6 25W 6c), 019000 AMD Ryzen 5 3400G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 2500X, AMD Ryzen 5 7520U, 017750 AMD Ryzen 5 3400GE (AM4 35W), Intel Core i5-8400, AMD Ryzen 5 1500X (AM4 65W), 017500 Intel Core i7-6700K, Intel i5-10400, AMD Ryzen 5 4500U (FP6 25W 6c6t), AMD Ryzen 3 5400U, 017000 AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 4350GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen 3 5300U (FP6 25W 4c8t), 016500 AMD Ryzen 7 3750H, AMD Ryzen Embedded V1756B (FP5 45W), AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 4200GE, 016000 AMD Ryzen 5 2400G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3550H, Intel Core i7-6700T, 015000 AMD Ryzen 3 7320U, Ryzen 7 3700U, Ryzen 3200G (AM4 65W), Intel Core i7-8550U, 014000 AMD Ryzen 5 2400GE (AM4 35W), Intel Core i5-8500T, AMD Ryzen 2700U, AMD Ryzen 5 3550U, 013500 AMD Ryzen 5 3500U (FP5 15W 4c8t), AMD Ryzen 3 4300U, AMD Athlon Gold 4150GE, 013250 AMD Ryzen 3 3200GE (AM4 45W), AMD Ryzen 3 1300X (65W), AMD Ryzen 3 2200G, 013000 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 2500U (FP4 25W), AMD Ryzen Embedded V1605B (FP5 25W), 012500 AMD Ryzen 5 2500U (FP5 25W 4c8t), Intel Core i3-8300T, Intel Xeon X5680, 012300 Intel Core i7-8565U, Intel Core i5-8350U, Intel Core i7-8700, 012200 ARM Cortex-X3 Prime Snapdragon SD8G2 Gen2 4nm 64-bit Kryo CPU, 012000 AMD Ryzen 3 2200GE, AMD Ryzen 3 1200 (65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3500C, 011500 AMD Ryzen 3 3300U, Intel Core i3-8100T, Intel Core i5-8265U 010500 AMD Ryzen 3 2300U (FP5 25W 4c4t), 010300 Intel Core i7-3630QM, Intel Core i5-6600T, 010200 Intel Core i5-6440HQ, Intel Core i7-3610QM, 010000 AMD FX-8320E (AM3+ 125W 8c8t), Intel Core i5-7500T, Intel Core i5-4690, 008700 AMD FX-6130 (AM3+ 90W 6c6t), Intel Core i5-7400T, Intel Core i5-4590T, 008600 Intel Core i5-6500T, AMD Athlon 300GE (AM4, 35W), AMD Athlon Gold 7220U, 008500 AMD Ryzen R1606G (FP5 15W), AMD FX-6300 (AM3 65W 6c6t), Intel Core i5-2500K, 008000 AMD Ryzen 3 3200U, AMD Ryzen 3 3250U, Intel Alderlake ULX N100 / N95, i7-7600U, 007200 AMD Ryzen 3 2200U (FP5 25W 2c4t), Intel Core i3-7100T, Intel Twinlakes N150 N200, 006900 AMD Ryzen R1505G (FP5, 15W), Intel Core i7-6600U, Qualcomm Snapdragon 888 5G, 006500 Intel Core i7-6500U, AMD Athlon Gold 3150U, Intel Celeron N5105 (FCBGA1338, 15W), 006300 Intel Core i3-8130 (15W), Intel Celeron N5095 (FCBGA1338 15W), 006100 Intel Core i5-6300U, Intel Core i5-7200U, Snapdragon 7325, Intel i7-5500U, 006060 AMD A10-6800B APU, Intel Core i5-4570T, Intel Core i5-5257U, 006000 Intel Core i5-6200U, Intel Core i3-7130U, Qualcomm Snapdragon 888 4G, Intel i7-4500U, 005900 AMD Athlon Silver 3050U, Intel Xeon X5550, Intel Core i5-4300M, ARM A76 RK3588, 005800 Intel Celeron J4125 J4105 (FCBGA1090 15W), Intel Core i5-3470T, AMD A8-6600K APU, 005600 Intel Core i5-3360M, Intel Core i7-3520M, Intel Core i5-4210M, ARM A76 RK3588S, 005400 ARM Cortex-A78 MediaTek Dimensity 1200 900, AMD Athlon Silver 7120U, Snapdragon 860, 005300 AMD PRO A12-9800B 7th Gen APU (FP4 15W), AMD FX-4300 4c4t, AMD Ryzen R1305G, 005200 AMD PRO A10-8770E, AMD A10-9700E, AMD PRO A10-9700B (FP4 15W), Intel Core i3-4130T, 005100 AMD RX-427BB (FP3 15W), AMD A10-9620P, AMD A12-9720P, Intel Core i5-5350U, Intel Core i3-8145U, 005100 AMD A8-5500 (FM2 65W), AMD A10 PRO-7800B APU, Intel Pentium Silver N5000, 005100 Intel Core i3-7100U (FCBGA1356 15W), Intel Core i7-5500U, Intel Core i3-6100U, 005000 Intel Core i5-5300U, Intel Core i5-3320M, AMD Athlon 300U, 004900 Intel Core i5-4300U, Intel Core i5-5200U, Intel Core i3-4100M, 004860 Intel Core i7-2620M, Intel Core i7-2640M, 004650 Intel Core i5-2520M, Intel Core i5-3210M, AMD A10-9600P (FP4 4c 15W), 004600 AMD PRO A8-9600B, AMD PRO A12-8830B, AMD PRO A10-8730B, AMD A12-9700P, 004400 AMD A10-8700P A8-8600P, Intel Core i5-4200U, Intel Core i5-2540M, 004000 Intel Core i5-2430M, AMD PRO A8-8600B, AMD 3020e, MT6797, 003850 Intel Core i5-2410M, Intel Core i3-2120 (LGA1155 65W), 003800 AMD A10-4600M APU, AMD A10 PRO-7350B APU, AMD A10-5750M APU, 003600 AMD A8-6500T APU, AMD A8-7410 APU, AMD PRO A6-8550B, AMD A8-5550M APU 003500 AMD GX-424CC SOC (FT3b 25W 4c4t), Intel Core i3-4000M, 003450 ARM A75 Unisoc Tiger T610 (8c 5W), 003400 AMD A10-7300 APU, AMD A6-7310 APU, AMD A8-6410, AMD A10-5745M APU 003350 Intel Pentium G2020, Intel Core i3-3120M, AMD R-464L APU, 003300 AMD GX-420CA SOC (FT3 BGA769 25W), AMD A6-9500E, 003200 AMD A6-6310 APU, AMD A6-6400B APU, AMD A6-8570E, AMD A8-4500M APU, AMD A6-7400K APU 003000 AMD A8-7150B, AMD A9-9410 / A9-9425, AMD A6-8500B (FP4 15W), AMD A8-7100, 002900 AMD PRO A6-8530B, AMD A6-8500P, AMD A8-3500M APU, Intel Core i3-2120T, 002700 AMD Embedded GX-420GI (FP4 15W), AMD PRO A6-9500B, AMD GX-415GA, AMD A4-6210 APU, 002600 AMD A6-9225, AMD A8-4555M APU, 002500 AMD A4-5000 APU (FT3 15W), AMD A6-9220, AMD A6-3420M APU, 002450 Intel Celeron 2950M, Intel Pentium N3700, Intel Core i3-2350M, 002400 Intel Celeron N3150, Intel Core i3-2330M, Intel Xeon W3505, 002300 Intel Celeron N3350, AMD A4-9120, AMD A4-9125, Intel Core i3-2310M, 002200 AMD A9-9420e, AMD A6-5350M APU, AMD E2-6110 APU, AMD A6-9210, AMD E2-9000e, 002000 AMD GX-412HC, AMD A4-4300M APU, AMD A6 PRO-7050B APU, AMD A6-4400M APU, AMD A6-7000, 001925 Intel Core2 Duo E6700, Intel Pentium Extreme Edition 965, Intel Core i3-370M, 001750 Intel Core i3-2365M 2375M, AMD A4-9120C, Intel Core2 Duo T8300, AMD E2-3800, Qualcomm MSM8939, 001600 AMD GX-222GC (BGA769 FT3b 15W), AMD A4-9120e, AMD Embedded GX-215JJ, AMD A4-4355M APU, 001550 Intel Core2 Duo SL9400 T7600 T6600, AMD E2-3200, AMD A6-9220e, MT8783, 001500 AMD GX-218GL SOC, AMD A6-4455M, AMD A4-5150M APU, ARM A55 RK3566 (4c 3W), 001400 AMD GX-217GA SOC, ARM Cortex-A53 4c4t H700, Allwinner A133P, AMD A4-3300M APU, 001300 AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-64 TL-62, Intel Core2 Duo T7300, Intel Core2 Duo T5600, 001250 AMD GX-412TC SOC, AMD A4-3320M APU, AMD Athlon 64 X2 QL-66, Intel Core2 Duo T7200 001200 AMD Athlon 64 X2 2c TK-57, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-60 RM-74, AMD E1-2500 APU 001150 Intel Core2 Duo T5550, Intel Core2 Duo L7500, AMD E2-3000M APU, ARM A35 RK3266, 001100 Intel Core2 Duo T5300, AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800, Intel Core2 Duo E4300, MT8127, 001050 AMD E1-6010 APU, Intel Pentium T4300, 001050 AMD Athlon 64 FX-57, AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core TK-55, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-52 001000 Intel Core2 Duo T5500, Intel Core2 Duo L7300, Intel Core2 Duo SU9400, 000950 AMD G-T56N, AMD Athlon 64 3100+, AMD E2-2000 APU, 000950 AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-50, AMD E1-2200 APU, Intel Celeron U3400, 000925 AMD TurionX2 Dual Core Mobile RM-72, AMD Sempron 140 000920 Intel Celeron SU2300, Intel Core2 Duo T5200, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-56 000890 AMD E2-1800 APU, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-58 000880 AMD G-T56E, AMD G-T48E, 000860 AMD E-450 APU, AMD E-350 APU, AMD Athlon LE-1620 000820 AMD A4-1250 APU, AMD Athlon LE-1600, 000810 AMD E1-2100 APU, Intel Core Duo T2500, 000810 Intel Atom D510, Intel Core2 Duo U7500, 000800 AMD Geode NX 2400+, AMD Turion 64 Mobile ML-42, AMD Athlon II Neo K325, 000760 AMD V140, AMD E1-1200 APU, AMD Athlon 64 3300+, 000730 Intel Core Duo T2400, AMD Turion 64 Mobile MK-38, AMD Sempron 3600+, 000700 Intel Core2 Duo U7600 U7700, AMD Sempron LE-1200, AMD V120 000680 AMD GX-212JC SOC, AMD E-300 APU, AMD A4-1200 APU, 000670 AMD Turion 64 Mobile MK-36 ML-37 ML-40, Mobile AMD Sempron 3800+ 000640 Intel Atom N2600, Intel Atom N570, Mobile AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 000640 Intel Core Duo T2300, Intel Core Duo T2050, 000630 VIA Eden X2 U4200, AMD Sempron LE-1100, AMD Sempron 3100+ 3600+, 000620 AMD C-70 C70 APU, Intel Atom 330, AMD G-T40N, AMD Athlon Neo MV-40, 000610 Intel Core2 Duo U7300, AMD Athlon II Neo K125 K145, 000600 Intel Atom N550, Intel Pentium 4, AMD Athlon 64 2800+, 000580 AMD C-60 C60, AMD G-T40E, AMD Sempron LE-1250 000530 AMD C-50 C50, Intel Celeron M 723, AMD Sempron 210U, 000490 AMD GX-210JA SOC, PowerPC 970 G5 IBM's 970 server CPU (2c), 000470 Mobile AMD Sempron 3500+, Mobile AMD Athlon XP-M 2200+, 000460 AMD Athlon XP 2500+, AMD Sempron 3500+, Mobile Intel Pentium 4, 000440 Intel Atom D425, Intel Atom N470, POWER 4 PPC, 000410 Intel Pentium M, Intel Celeron M, AMD Sempron 2300+ 000400 Intel Atom N450, AMD Sempron 2400+, 000340 Intel Atom D410, AMD G-T52R, AMD C-30, AMD Sempron 2200+ 000330 Intel Atom N455, Intel Atom N280, Intel Atom N270 (1c1t 2W), Intel P3, 000320 Freescale NXP QorIQ P1022 000310 PowerPC G4 7447 1Ghz (1c1t 15W), PPC440 core, 000230 PowerPC PPC G3/PPC 750, 000160 Pentium II, Motorola 68060 000080 Intel 80486, Motorola 68030, 000040 Intel 80386, 000030 Motorola 68020 000008 Motorola 68000 </pre> === Recommended hardware (32-bit) === [[#top|...to the top]] Recommended hardware is hardware that has been tested with latest release of AROS and is relatively easy to purchase second hand (ie. ebay). This hardware also comes with commitment that compatibility will be maintained with each future release. If in future decision will be made to drop any of the recommended hardware from the list (for example due to it no longer being available for purchase), such hardware will move to list of legacy supported systems and will have an indicated end of life date so that users have time to switch to other hardware. {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" | <!--OK-->{{Yes|'''Works well'''}} || <!--Not working-->{{No|'''Does not work'''}} || <!--Not applicable-->{{N/A|'''N/A not applicable'''}} |- |} ==== Virtual Hardware ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | VirtualBox 7.x (Other/Unknown template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|PCNET32<br/>E1000}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- | VMware 16+ (Other32 template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|PCNET32}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- | QEMU 8.x ("pc" and "q35" machines) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|PCNET32}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- |} ==== Laptops ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | ACER Aspire One ZG5 || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(IDE)}} || {{Yes|GMA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|RTL8169}} || {{Yes|ATHEROS}} || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- | Dell Latitude D520 || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{Yes|GMA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|BCM4400}} || {{No|}} || {{Yes|Atheros AR5BXB63}} || * select Intel Core 2 64-bit version, not Celeron 32-bit version <br/> * replace WiFi card to get wireless working |- |} ==== Desktop Systems ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | Fujitsu Futro S720 || {{Yes|SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * no 2D/3D acceleration<br/> * use USB ports at back |- |} ==== Motherboards ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | ASUS P8Z68V LX || {{Yes|SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * add external PCIe video card for better performance |- | Gigabyte GA-MA770T UD3/UD3P || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * requires external PCIe video card |- | ASUS M2N68-AM SE2 || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{Yes|NVIDIA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|NVNET}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * connecting a disk via SATA connector is not supported at this time <br/> * add external PCIe video card for better performance |- | Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2H || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * add external PCIe video card for better performance |- |} ==== Legacy supported hardware ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="10%" |EOL ! width="35%" |Comments |- | iMica || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{Yes|GMA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || 2026-12-31 || |- | Gigabyte GA-MA770 UD3 || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(IDE)}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || 2026-12-31 || * requires external PCIe video card |- |} === Recommended hardware (64-bit) === [[#top|...to the top]] Recommended hardware is hardware that has been tested with latest release of AROS and is relatively easy to purchase second hand (ie. ebay). This hardware also comes with commitment that compatibility will be maintained with each future release. ==== Virtual Hardware ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | VirtualBox 7.x (Other/Unknown (64-bit) template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|PCNET32<br/>E1000}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- | VMware 16+ (Other64 template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|E1000}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- | QEMU 8.x ("pc" and "q35" machines) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|PCNET32}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- |} ==== Motherboards ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | ASUS P8Z68V LX || {{Yes|SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- |} ==References== [[#top|...to the top]] {{reflist}} {{BookCat}} tkllhigakh36zo8qt06dwbovuse6csb 4520795 4520794 2025-07-01T16:50:35Z Jeff1138 301139 4520795 wikitext text/x-wiki {{ArosNav}} ==Introduction== This a list of computer hardware tested with mostly native AROS installs and, in the recommended sections, of virtual machines With 64bit support it is recommended 8Gb ram is needed and that SSE 4.1 and AVX are supported in the CPU i.e. from year 2012 for Intel CPUs and 2013 for AMD CPUs. They are x86-64 instruction sets designed to perform the same operations on multiple data items simultaneously, a technique known as Single Instruction, Multiple Data (SIMD). This allows for increased performance in tasks involving parallel computation. SSE 4.1 is a 128-bit SIMD instruction set, while AVX introduced 256-bit SIMD, further enhancing performance. Some apps require these features to run well, like 3D, multimedia decoding or JIT (javascript) in Odyssey web browser. If not the apps may work slower or might fail. If you have encountered differently (i.e. problems, incompatibilities, faults, niggles, annoyances, environment, errors, review of setup etc) please update this information. Please bear in mind that AROS has only a few hardware driver developers, whilst Linux counts in the tens and Windows in the hundreds. So consequently, be aware that driver support on native is now a decade behind linux, MacOS(TM) and Windows(TM). Although still being worked upon Alternatively, an hosted OS (windows or linux) of AROS could give better results. [[#Laptops]] [[#Netbook]] [[#Desktop Systems]] [[#Recommended hardware (32-bit)]] [[#Recommended hardware (64-bit)]] === Laptops === [[#top|...to the top]] * 2006/2007 Dell Latitude D-series laptops - business class machines, good support in Aros, easy to replace wifi card * 2006 some [https://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/laptops-portable-pcs/laptops-and-netbooks/toshiba-satellite-pro-a200-28550/review Satellite Pro A200] * 2008 For the tiny carry anywhere, the early run of Acer Aspire netbooks Rough estimate from taking a random laptop notebook what you can expect from a Native install of AROS {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Date ! width="5%" |Overall ! width="5%" |Gfx VESA ! width="5%" |Gfx 2D Acceleration ! width="10%" |Gfx 3D Acceleration ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Before 2002 || Poor to OK || VESA 90% || 2D 10% || {{N/A}} || Audio 10% || 40% || Wired 70% || 2% || Max RAM 512MB |- | 2002-2005 || OK || VESA 95% || 2D 10% || 3D 0% || Audio 30% || 70% || Wired 50% || 4% || Max RAM 1GB |- | 2005-2012 || Good || VESA 98% || 2D 60% || 3D 30% || Audio 60% || 80% || Wired 30% || 10% || Max RAM 2 / 4GB |- | 2013-2017 || OK || VESA 98% || 2D 10% || 3D 0% || Audio 20% || 60% || Wired 20% || 0% || Max RAM 8GB / 16GB |- | 2018-2025 || Poor || VESA 98% || 2D 0% || 3D 0% || Audio 0% || 0% || Wired 20% || 0% || Max RAM 32GB |- | 202X-202x || Poor || VESA 95% || 2D 0% || 3D 0% || Audio 0% || 0% || Wired 10% || 0% || Max RAM 64GB |- |} 3D tests now conducted with apps found in Demos/AROS/Mesa and run at default size (may need to View As -> Show All to see them. Any laptop with Windows 7(TM) 64bit or higher install, the bios and hard drive set in uefi/gpt mode (install of AROS incompatible) Most vendor suppliers get OEM (original equipment manufacturers) to make their laptops. These brand name companies purchase their laptops from *80% ODM (Original Design Manufacturer) such as Quanta, Compal, Wistron, Inventec, Foxconn (Hon Hai), Flextronics and Asus (now Pegatron) *20% MiTAC, FIC, Arima, Uniwill, ECS, Tonfang Origin and Clevo {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" | <!--OK-->{{Yes|'''Works well'''}} || <!--May work-->{{Maybe|'''Works a little'''}} || <!--Not working-->{{No|'''Does not work'''}} || <!--Not applicable-->{{N/A|'''N/A not applicable'''}} |- |} ====Acer/Gateway/Emachines==== Company founded under the name of Multitech in Taiwan in 1976, renamed to Acer or Acer Group in 1987 Order of build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Packard Bell Aspire Extensa TimeLine Travelmate </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="2%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Travelmate 505 506 507 508 Series || <!--Chipset-->P2 Celeron 466Mhz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes|boots}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Neo Magic Magic Graph 128XD (NM2160)}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 Crystal CS}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 minimal support but no audio etc - 506T, 506DX, 507T, 507DX, 508T |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 340 342 343 345 347 || <!--Chipset-->ALi M1621 with piii || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Trident Cyber 9525 || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1969 Solo-1}} || <!--USB-->2 ALi OHCI USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->a few have Intel e100 || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2000 32bit - 340T, 341T, 342T, 342TV, 343TV, 345T, 347TV |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 350 351 352 353 || <!--Chipset-->Ali with piii || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Trident Cyber Blade DSTN/Ai1 || <!--Audio-->{{No|ali5451}} || <!--USB-->2 USB 1.1 Ali M5237 OHCI || <!--Ethernet-->e100 || <!--Wireless-->Acer InviLink IEEE 802.11b || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit very limited support but no support for PCMCIA O2 Micro OZ6933 - 350T, 351TEV, 352TEV, 353TEV |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 610 series 611 612 613 614 || <!--Chipset-->815 P3 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 82815 cgc || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->Intel e100 pro || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit - 610TXVi 610T 611TXV 612TX 613TXC |- | Aspire 3003LM || SIS AMD 3000 1.8GHz || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SIS AGP M760GX (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97 SIS codec}} || 3 USB 2.0 || {{yes|SIS900}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4318 AirForce One 54g}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 sempron |- | Travelmate 2310 Series ZL6 || Intel Celeron M 360 1.4GHz with SiS 661MX || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SiS Mirage M661MX (VESA only)}} || {{yes|SIS SI7012 AC97 with realtek ALC203 codec speakers only}} || || {{yes|SIS900}} || {{N/A|LM version has pci card slot but no antenna}} || Icaros 2.1.1 || 2004 32bit - No USB boot option but boot from DVD - reports of wifi losing connection (isolate/remove the metallic grounding foil ends of the antennas) - 2312LM_L - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 3000 3002LMi 3500 5000 || <!--Chipset-->AMD CPU W-with SIS M760 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->SIS 760 || <!--Audio-->SIS || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->SIS 900 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4318 swap for Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 3050 5020 5050 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Single and Turion MK-36 Dual and RS480 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - RS482M Xpress 1100 or RS485M Xpress 1150 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio Realtek ALC883 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5006G or Broadcom BCM 4318 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit MK36 gets very hot |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 2410 2420 2430 series || <!--Chipset-->915GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel Mobile 915GMS 910GML || <!--Audio-->Intel AC97 ICH6 with ALC203 codec || <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL-8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5005GS || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 2428AWXMi - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 3610 - WISTRON MORAR 3614WLMI || <!--Chipset-->Intel 915 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 2D and 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|[http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=644066&postcount=13 AC97]}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL 8139 8139C+}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros AR5001X+, AR5BMB5 or Broadcom 4318}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.2.4 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit with good support [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6205188#post6205188 wifi issues] |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 2480 series 2483 WXMi (HannStar J MV4 94V) 2483NWXCi Aspire 3680, 3690 || <!--Chipset-->940GML i943 with Celeron 430 1.77GHz - 14.1" || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D and 3D openGL 1.x - Tunnel 181 gearbox 104 scores}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC883 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|3 USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8038 yukon sky2}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 5k AR5005G AR5BMB5 mini pci}} suspect laptop hardware issues || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 Works well shame about the internet options - noisy fan - poor battery life - no boot option for TI based mass storage sd card - Max 2GB memory - LCD Inverter Board IV12090/T-LF - |- | <!--Name-->TravelMate 2490 series 2492WXMi || <!--Chipset-->940GML || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 945 2D and 3D tunnel 164 gearbox 105}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR5005GS suspect hardware issue}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit - 15inch screen - strange curved up at ends keyboard style - overall plastic construction - Atheros AR5005G(s) - |- | <!--Name-->Gateway ML6227B MA7 || <!--Chipset-->Celeron M 520 1.6Ghz with 945GM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|945GM 2D and 3D tunnel 169 gearbox 132}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDA Intel with STAC9250 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8038}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|8187L but swap ath5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 15.4 ultrabrite widescreen - Wifi Switch on side Fn/F2 - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 5630-6796 6288 BL50 || <!--Chipset-->T5200 T5500 Intel® Core™2 Duo T7200 T7400 T7600 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel® GMA 950 with S-Video out}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 USB}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom BCM4401}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945abg swap for Atheros 5K}} || <!--Test Distro-->Tiny AROS || <!--Comments-->2006 - 64bit 39.1 cm (15.4" 1280 x 800) - 2 DDR2-SDRAM slots max 4GB - green mobo?? - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 5633WMLI BL51 || <!--Chipset-->T5500 with Intel® 945PM/GM Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia Go 7300}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with Realtek codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom 440x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 swap for Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Tiny Aros || <!--Comments-->2007 64 bit dual core2 - 15.4 WXGA screen - ddr2 max 4gb - OrbiCam no support - ENE chipset SD card - blue mobo?? - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire 9410 9420 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core Duo with 945PM Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300 - 128 MB VRAM G72M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel HD audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 8111 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945ABG but could swap with atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - 17in TFT 1,440 x 900 WXGA+ - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->eMachines E510 series KAL10 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Celeron M 560 2.13Ghz with PM965 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel x3100 || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel with codec}} || <!--USB-->Intel || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5906M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros G AR5BXB63 bios issue??}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2007 32bit very budget machine with InsydeH20 bios and F10 boot menu |- | <!--Name-->ACER Aspire 5920 5920G || <!--Chipset-->Santa Rosa Core 2 Duo T7300 T7500 later T9300 with GM965 and PM965(G) Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for X3100M or 8600M GS (rev a1) 9500M GT 256MB vram (G) but some AMD/ATI RV635 M86 HD 3650}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with realtek alc888 codec ICH8}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5787M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945ABG 4965 or Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro-->Deadwood test iso 2023-01 2023-11 || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit boot with 'noacpi' or 'noioapic' - 15.4in 1280 x 800 pixels 16:10 - BMW Designworks ‘Gemstone’ design - over 3.0kg with options for 8-cell or 6-cell batteries - 2 SODIMM DDR2 667MT/s max 4GB - synaptics touchpad - |- | <!--Name-->Acer A0521 Ao721 || Athlon II Neo K125 + AMD M880G || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{maybe|ATI Radeon HD 4225 (VESA only)}} || {{No|Conexant}} || {{Maybe}}|| {{no|AR8152 l1c}} || {{no|AR9285 ath9k}} || AspireOS 1.7 || 2006 64bit possible |- | <!--Name--> Extensa 5630Z || <!--Chipset-->T6600 with Intel GL40 Express || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Yes|Intel GMA 4500M HD (2D)}} || <!--Audio--> {{Yes|HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> {{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet--> {{No|Broadcom BCM 5764M}} || <!--Wireless--> {{No|RaLink RT2860}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit |- |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 5250 series 5253 BZ400 BZ602 || <!--Chipset-->E350 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{no|VESA 2D for AMD HD6310}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDaudio for codec Conexant CX20584}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8151}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros 9k AR5B97}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire V5 V5-121 V5121 AO725 One 725 || <!--Chipset-->AMD C-70 C70 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{no|VESA for AMD 6290G}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|Realtek ALC269 codec}} || <!--USB-->2 x USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire V5-122P MS2377 || <!--Chipset-->C-70 C70 with M55, AMD A4-1250 or A6 1450 up to 1.4Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->AMD 8210 || <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec || <!--USB-->FCH USB EHCI OHCI || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169 but LAN/VGA Combo Port Cable (AK.LAVGCA 001) or MiniCP port to Acer Converter Cable (Mini CP to VGA/LAN/USB) (NP.OTH11 00C) needed}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros 9k AR9565}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aros One || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit but no sse4 or avx - 26w battery internal, extension possible - 11.6in 1366 x 768 ips touchscreen - 7mm hd ssd - 2gb ddr3l soldered with 1 slot free max 4GB - bios hacking needed for virtualisation - |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell EasyNote TE69 TE69KB 522 || <!--Chipset-->slow E1-2500, E2-3800 2c2t Dual or A4-5000 4c4t Quad both soldered BGA769 (FT3) on Hudson-2 FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Use IDE mode}} setting AHCI to IDE mode - boots if UEFI set to Legacy || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for ATI Radeon 8120 8240, 8320, 8330 or 8280 islands}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AMD Azalia HD Audio with ALC282 0x10ec0282 codec but not HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|Bios, Boot, set Boot mode to Legacy, nothing from USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8171 AR8175 or Broadcom BCM57780}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9565 0x1969 0x10a1}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aspire OS Xenon and AROS One 1.6 usb || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit with sse4.1 and AVX - 15.6in washed out screen big netbook - Boots with noacpi after using F2 to enter EFI firmware and f12 boot device - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots max 16Gb - |- | <!--Name-->ASPIRE Acer Aspire ES1-520 521 522 Series N15C4 ES1-523 || <!--Chipset-->AMD AMD E1-7010, A8-7410 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA for RADEON R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|Realtek ALC 233 or CX20752 HD AUDIO CODEC}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8151 Gigabit or Broadcom 590x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek RTL8187 or 8812BU}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aros One || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit with sse4.1 and AVX - 2 ddr3l slots - keyboard connected to top case - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Aspire 3, 5 A515-44-R0ZN || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 4500u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in or 15.6" 1080p - 19v round charging - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr0tC3QJWxk repair], 4gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Swift 3 SF314-43, Swift SF315-41 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 7 5700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 1080p - small round ac or usb-c - |- | <!--Name-->Swift 3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Asus==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Asus L8400-K Medion MD9467 || <!--Chipset-->Intel desktop 850MHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->S3 Savage MX || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS allegro 1988}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Asus L2000 L2400 L2D Series Medion 9675 || <!--Chipset-->Athlon 4 mobile || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use vesa sis630 || <!--Audio-->{{No|sis7018}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->sis900 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->x51R X51RL || <!--Chipset-->Duo T2250 T2330 with RS480 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|boots and detects}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL-8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR5006EG AR5111 ath5k AzureWave AW-GE780 - could be ATI Chipset}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2, deadwood 2021, || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit 15.4 WXGA - 19v barrel - ESC boot select - F2 bios - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Asus R2H Ultra Mobile PC UMPC || <!--Chipset-->Celeron 900Mhz 910GML || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA900 || <!--Audio-->Ac97 ALC880 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8169 8101e || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm4fOrqyj3g boots] |- | <!--Name-->Asus A3 series A3F Ergo Ensis 211 RM || <!--Chipset-->P-M 1.6GHz to Core Duo with 950 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945 || <!--Audio-->Ac97 ALC655 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8100CL 10/100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit only |- | <!--Name-->Z33 || <!--Chipset-->915 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->915GM || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC880 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 2915ABG || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit Z33A Z33AE N5M N5A |- | Z70A Z70V Z70Va M6A z7000 z7000a || i915 + ICH6 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|mobile 915GML}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|ICH6 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Marvell 88E8001}} || {{no|Intel PRO 2200BG Fn / F2}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2005 32bit |- | [http://www.progweb.com/en/2010/09/linux-sur-un-portable-asus-a6jm/ A6jm] A6JC || 945GM || IDE || SATA || {{yes|nVidia GeForce Go 7600 G70}} || {{no|HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|RTL8111 8168B}} || {{no|Intel 3945 ABG}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2006 32bit only |- | <!--Name-->F3Jc || <!--Chipset-->945PM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->G72M Quadro NVS 110M, GeForce Go 7300 || <!--Audio-->D audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8169 8111 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->X50GL F5GL || <!--Chipset-->T5800 with 965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA 2d - Nvidia 8200M G84 runs hot}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio MCP79 with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|MCP79}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR5B91 AW-NE77}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2 || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit not much support no display with nouveau - 19v barrel - ddr2 max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS G50 & G51 series G50V G50Vt G51V G51VX G51J G51Jx G50VT X1 X5 ROG || <!--Chipset-->AMD64 with MCP71 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} || <!--Gfx-->nVidia GeForce 9800M GS (G94M) up to GT200 [GeForce GTX 260M] (G92M) || <!--Audio-->Nvidia HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros L1C atl1c}} || <!--Wireless-->Atheros G or Intel || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit not all GPUs are failing but a much higher % failing early, 8x00 and 9x00 G84, G86, G92, G94, and G96 series chips dying - ddr2 max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->M50V M50 series || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core 2 Duo P8400 or T9400 with Intel PM45 ICH9 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|BIOS set to compatibility IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GS or 9650M GT || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC663 || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 realtek 8169 8111C}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 5100 or Atheros AR928X}}|| <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.0 USB || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit - 15.40 inch 16:10, 1680 x 1050 glossy - the "Infusion" design - heavy 3kg - ddr2 ram max 4gb - |- | <!--Name-->Series F9 F9E F9dc F9f F9j F9s || <!--Chipset-->965GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Vesa}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio ALC660 playback}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|works}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|intel 3495 not working}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.41 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit - ddr2 max 4gb - |- | P52F SO006X || i3-370M || IDE || SATA || {{yes|nVidia G92 [GeForce 9800 GT] (2D)}} || {{no|Intel HD Audio}} || {{yes|2 USB2.0}} || {{no|Atheros AR8121 AR8113 AR8114 (l1e)}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2010 64bit - ddr3 slot - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Asus * X53U MB Ver K53U or K52U Asus K53U MB Ver K53U * A53U XT2 X53B MB ver: K53BY (compal) || <!--Chipset-->Slow atom like speed E-350 (2011), E-450 (2011) on AMD M780G, much slower C-50 C50 (2012), C-60 C60 on the AMD A50M dark brown plastic build || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|Set IN Bios IDE MODE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA ATi 6310M, 6320M later 6250M or 6290M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with alc269 codec Altec Lansing® Speakers}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|3 x USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|rtl8169 with RTL8111 phy}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros half height ar9285 cannot swap with ar5000 mini pci-e as smaller card required}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 and AROS One 1.6 USB || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6in 1368 x 768 dull 50% srgb screen - f2 bios setup, esc boot drive - 5200 or 7800 mAh battery covers ASUS K53S K53E X54C X53S K84L X53SV X54HR K53F X53U laptops - 2 DDR3L slots max 8Gb - 19v barrel 5.5 / 2.5 mm - |- | <!--Name-->Asus K53T, Asus A53Z X53Z || <!--Chipset-->AMD A4-3305M on AMD M780G, A6-3420M dark brown plastic build || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|Set IN Bios IDE MODE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD 6520G, 7670M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|3 x USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 with RTL8111 phy}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros half height}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6in 1368 x 768 dull 50% srgb screen - f2 bios setup, esc boot drive - 2 DDR3L slots max 8Gb - 19v barrel 5.5 / 2.5 mm - Altec Lansing® Speakers - |- | <!--Name-->X55U X401U X501U 1225B || <!--Chipset-->slow C-60 C60, C-70 C70 or E1 1200 E2 1800 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->6290G || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9485 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6" display - ram soldered - |- | <!--Name-->Asus A43TA A53TA K53TA XE2 A73T || <!--Chipset-->AMD A4-3300M, A6 3400M (laptop chip) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|Set IN Bios IDE MODE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA AMD Radeon HD 6520G Integrated + HD 6470M (1GB GDDR3)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - f2 bios setup, esc boot drive - |- | <!--Name-->X102BA || <!--Chipset-->Llano E1 1200 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|ide bios setting}} || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 8180 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 10.1” Touchscreen - special asus 45w ac adapter - |- | <!--Name-->K55N, K75DE || <!--Chipset-->AMD a6 4400M A8 4500M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD 7640G || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC codec none through ATi Trinity HDMI || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9485 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 17.3-inch - |- | <!--Name-->X452EA X552EA F552E || <!--Chipset-->AMD E1 2100 or A4 5000M A8 4500M A10 4600M with A || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for AMD ATI Sun XT Radeon HD 8330 8670A 8670M 8690M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AMD FCH Azalia rev 02 with ALC898 codec}} || <!--USB-->USB3 with USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{{Yes|Realtek RTL8111 8168 8411}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9485}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit may support avx kabini trinity - |- | <!--Name-->Asus X555Y - keyboard from Asus X555B X555D X555L X555S X555U X555Y X555LA fits? silver-colored plastic || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-7210 A8-7410 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk }} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for AMD R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->Realtek || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr3 slot - silver-colored plastic - internal battery - |- | <!--Name-->Asus X555D || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-8700P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for AMD R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr3 slot - silver-coloured plastic - internal battery - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS X555Q || <!--Chipset-->AMD® Bristol Ridge A10-9600P 7th Gen, A12-9720p || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->R5 + Radeon™ R6 M435DX Dual Graphics with VRAM GCN 3 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8821AE || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - FHD 15.6 1920x1080 - 37W battery internal - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr3 slot - internal battery - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M509ba || <!--Chipset-->AMD A9-9425 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->RADEON R5 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot max 16Gb - 19VDC 2.37A Max 45W 4.0mm x 1.35mm - keyboard swap problematic - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset-->AMD || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVme || <!--Gfx-->AMD || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS Vivibook M509DA X509DA M509DJ M509DL or M409DJ M409DA X409DA M409BA || <!--Chipset-->AMD® Ryzen™ 2c Athlon Silver 3050U 3200U, 4c AMD® Ryzen™ 5 3500U 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->{{No|nvme}} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for AMD Vega 5 8 or nvidia MX230 MX250}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS one || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14" or 15" transparent Silver Slate Grey - 4 or 8g soldered and 1 ddr4 sodimm slot max 8g - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ExpertBook P1410, ASUS ExpertBook P1 P1510CD || <!--Chipset-->3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit 14in or 15.6in - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ZenBook UM431DA, Vivobook X515DA M515DA, VivoBook X512DA M512DA, || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3500u 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVme || <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega 8 or 10 || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14" 1080p - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Zenbook 14 UM433, UM425IA, Vivobook M413DA || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 4500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in 1080p - asus round ac - |- | <!--Name-->Vivobook X513, Asus Vivobook 15 M513 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 5500U, 7 5700u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme and might have 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - round asus ac - |- | <!--Name-->Zenbook Flip 14 || <!--Chipset-->AMD R7 6800H || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 14inch 1080p - |- | <!--Name-->Vivobook Go 15 E1504FA || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 7320U, AMD Ryzen 5 7520U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio for codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No| USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ==== Dell ==== [[#top|...to the top]] Order of build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Studio Inspiron Vostro XPS Alienware Precision Latitude </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="10%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Latitude CP 233GT, CPi d233xt d266xt D300XT a366xt, CPt S400GT S500GT S550GT S600GT S700ST, CPt C333GT C400GT || <!--Chipset-->Neo Magic || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - Neo magic Magic Media 2160 2360 256ZX || <!--Audio-->{{No|crystal pnp 4237b or magic media 256zx sound nm2360}} || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit Low-Density 16-chip 144p 144-pin 32Mx64 3.3V SODIMM - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Latitude CPx H450GT H500GT H Series, CPt V433GT V466GT V600, Inspiron 5000 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 440BX with Pentium 3M (CPx) or Celeron (CPt) || <!--IDE-->{{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use Vesa - ATi Rage Pro Mobility M1}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1978 Maestro 2E Canyon 3D}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|1 slot 1.1 only}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Test Distro-->NB May 2013 || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit - 3 pin PA-6 PA6 power adapter plug - CDROM DVD Cxxx family media bay accessories untested |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C500 C600 (Quanta TM6) Inspiron 4000 7500, CPx J Series || <!--Chipset-->440BX ZX/DX || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|ATI Rage 128Pro Mobility M3 (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|ES1983S Maestro 3i}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 1.1 only}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A|some models had mini pci e100}}|| <!--Wireless-->{{N/A|a few came with internal antenna wiring}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->1999 square 3 pin charger PA9 PA-9 - C/Dock II untested - C/Port untested - Parallel to Floppy cable untested - CPx J600GT J650GT J700GT J750GT J800GT J850GT |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C510 C610 Insprion 4100 PP01L 2600 || <!--Chipset-->i830 and 1GHz+ P3-M || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|use VESA - ATI Radeon Mobility M6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 CS4205}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|3Com Etherlink}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|internal antenna wiring for an Atheros mini pci card}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2000 poor build quality - hard to find in good working order |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C400 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 830 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Intel 830 CGC}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ac97 Crystal 4205}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|3Com 3c905C TX/TX-M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2000 Slim for the time - no media bays |- | <!--Name-->Latitude C640 (Quanta TM8) C840 Inspiron 8k2 8200 i8200 precision m50 || <!--Chipset-->P4M with 845EP || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA if ATi - use nouveau if 64mb Nvidia Gforce 4 440 Go || <!--Audio-->AC97 CS4205 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->3com 905c || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2001 C640 had one fan so was noisy and hot - C840 had 2 fans and ran slightly cooler but fan noise louder |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | Latitude D400 || P-M 82845 || {{yes|82801 ide}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|VESA only}} || {{yes|AC97 Audio playback only}} || {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || {{maybe|PRO 100 VM (KM)}} || {{no|BCM4318 AirForce one 54g replace with atheros 5k mini pci}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit might boot from USB stick but won't boot from USB-DVD - no sd card slot - power plug style - |- | Latitude D500 / D505 PP10L, Inspiron 510m || 855GME * revA00 * revA03 * revA06 | {{yes|IDE but needs the Dell adapter}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|855GM Gfx (VESA only)}} || {{Yes|Intel AC97 with IDT STAC 9750 codec playback head phones only}} || {{maybe| }} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VE}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4306 but exchange with atheros g in panel on laptop bottom}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || 2003 - 14 / 15 inch XGA 4:3 screen - plastic build - no sd card slot - boots from bay optical drive - not powering on/off with ac adapter is a [http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=37&topicid=30585 mobo fault of PC13 SMT 1206 ceramic cap hot] suggest [http://www.die4laser.com/D505fix/ 0.1uF 50V instead] - pc2700 333Mhz ram 1Gb max - |- | Latitude D505 (some) || VIA VT8237 VX700 || {{yes|IDE}} || || {{partial|VESA 2d on ATI RV350 Radeon 9550}} || {{no|VIA AC97 with codec}} || {{maybe|VIA USB glitchy}} || {{yes|VIA VT6102 Rhine-II}} || {{no|Intel 2200g Calexico2}} || <!--Test Distro--> || 2003 32bit little support - diagnostics pressing holding the Fn key, press the Power ON button (battery removed). Check the LEDs pattern - cmos battery behind flap in laptop battery slot - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1000 || <!--Chipset-->SIS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use VESA SIS}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 SIS with AD1981B codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|SIS 900 but}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit [https://forum.level1techs.com/t/my-time-with-icaros-desktop-and-what-i-am-doing-as-a-dev-contributor-also-some-other-shit/113358 aremis using it] |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1100 PP07L || <!--Chipset-->845 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Intel 845G}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC'97 playback}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom 4401}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2004 |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 8500 5150 || <!--Chipset-->P4 855GM || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia 5200 Go - VESA if intel gfx}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|MCP AC97 with SigmaTel 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom 440x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4306 rev 02 use Atheros Mini PCI}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit P4 runs well but hot |- | Latitude X300 PP04S small, slim and light case || 855GME * revA00 Intel ULV 1.2 Ghz * revA01 Intel ULV 1.4Ghz | {{yes|IDE internal and will boot cd/dvd through dock PR04S}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|855GM Gfx (VESA only)}} || {{Yes|Intel AC97 with STAC 97xx codec but no audio out of the dock}} || {{maybe|works but dock usb ports and usb DVD PD01S not detected}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM5705M gigabit}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4306 later intel - replace with atheros in the underside}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1, AROS One 1.6 usb, || 2003 12.1" 1024 x 768 - 19.5v PA-10 or PA-12 dell - ACPI works but bad s3 ram suspend sleep - no sd card boot - 1Gb max sodimm ddr 2700 |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D600 (Quanta JM2) PP05L - 600m || <!--Chipset-->82855 PM i855 * reva00 * revA01 * revA02 * revA03 * revA04 | <!--IDE--> {{yes}} || <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA - ATI Radeon RV250 Mobility FireGL 9000}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 - STAC 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5705}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 2100 or Broadcom BCM4306 - swap for Atheros panel in base}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.3 and [http://www.amiga.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-62187.html 1.4.1 and 2.1.1] || <!--Opinion-->2003 32bit 14inch using pc2100 memory with Caps light blinking is usually a memory error - Dell D505 D600 power up pressing the case docking port - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D600 (Quanta JM2) || <!--Chipset-->82855 PM i855 || <!--IDE--> {{yes}} || <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D only vidia NV28 GeForce4 Ti 4200 Go 5200 Go 5650 Go}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 - STAC 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5705}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom BCM4306 mini pci - swap for Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.3 and [http://www.amiga.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-62187.html 1.4.1] || <!--Opinion-->2003 32bit 14" - solder joints on the bios chip (press down f7/f8 keys) - RAM clean with eraser - memory cover plate maybe apply some pressure - |- | <!--Name-->D800 (Compal LA-1901) || <!--Chipset-->Intel 855 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom 570x || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom 4309 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - trackpoint type pointing device - |- | <!--Name-->D800 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 855 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{No|Nvidia }} || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom 570x || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom 4309 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit 15inch 39cm |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1200 2200 PP10S Latitude 110L m350 1.3Ghz || <!--Chipset-->Intel 915GM || <!--IDE--> {{yes|UDMA boots cd or DVD and installs to HDisk}} || <!--SATA--> {{N/A}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA900 (2D and 3D openGL 1.x) Gearbox 56}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 playback only}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Intel PRO 100 VE}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|BroadCom BCM4318 - swap for Atheros mini PCI in base panel}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.5 || <!--Comments-->2005 single core 32bit 14" 4:3 1024 768 XGA screen - heavy 6 lbs - PA16 barrel 19V 3.16A AC adapter - battery life 4cell 29WHr lasts 2 hours - 256mb soldered with 1 ddr pc2100 sodimm 1gb max - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1300 business B130 home PP21L Latitude 120L B120 by Compal - Inspiron 630m || <!--Chipset-->Intel Celeron M360 1.4GHz, M370 1.50 GHz, M380 1.73GHz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes|boots cd or DVD and installs to HDisk}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 915 2D and 3D openGL 1.x tunnel 172 gearbox 70}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio playback ear phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|works but waiting boot fail with AROS One usb version}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom 440x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|intel 2200 or BCM4318 swap for Atheros mini pci underside - one antenna lead for main wifi}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2, AROS One 1.6 usb, || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit single core - 14.1″ XGA 4:3 or 15.4" WXGA wide 1280 x 800 matte - ddr2 sodimm ram 2gb max - PA-16 19v psu tip 7.4mm * 5mm - f10 boot select f1 f2 bios |- | Latitude X1 PP05S || PP-M GMA915 rev A00 1.1GHz non-pae || {{yes|ide 1.8in zif/ce under keyboard}} || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|Vesa for Intel 915GM}} || {{yes|AC97 6.6 playback only with STAC codec}} || {{maybe|USB 2.0 but partial boot to blank screen}} || {{No|Broadcom 5751}} || {{no|Intel 2200BG - swap for Atheros mini pci under keyboard palm rest - disassembly of all laptop}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 dvd iso image virtualbox'd onto usb, Aros One 1.5 and 1.8 usb (2022) || 2005 32bit 12.1" 4:3 1024 x 768 - sd slot not bootable - 256mb soldered to board and 1 sodimm max 1GB ddr2 under keyboard - F12 bios boot F2 - pa-17 pa17 19v octagonal psu port |- | Latitude D410 PP06S *rev A00 *A01, A02 *A03 || GMA915 1.6GHz Pentium® M 730, 1.7GHz, 750 1.86GHz & 760 2.0GHz, 770 2.13GHz || {{yes|caddy and adapter needed 2.5" - remove hdd and write}} || {{N/A}} || {{Yes|Intel 915GM 2D and 3D OpenGL 1.3 tunnel 170 and gearbox 75}} || {{yes|AC97 playback only with STAC 9751 codec}} || {{maybe|works but will not boot from USB-DVD or AROS One 1.5 usb version}} || {{No|Broadcom 5751}} || {{no|Intel 2915ABG or later 2200BG - swap for Atheros mini pci under keyboard}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4, 2.1.1 and AROS One 1.5 usb, || 2005 32bit 12.1" 4:3 1024 x 768 - no sd card slot - PR06S dock base |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D510 (Quanta DM1) || <!--Chipset-->915GM socket 479 || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 915 2D and 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 STAC 975x}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG swap Atheros mini pci in base}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 14.1" 32bit single core Intel Celeron M 1.6GHz Pentium M 730 1.73Ghz - squarish 3:2 - issues with 3rd party battery 4 quick flashes of red led with 1 final green |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D610 (Quanta JM5B) PP11L || <!--Chipset-->910GML 915GM with mobile 1.6 to 2.26ghz * Rev A0x * Rev A0x * Rev A07 1.73Ghz | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 915 2D and 3D tunnel 174 gearbox 74}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 speaker head phones playback only with stac codec}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 2200BG or Broadcom mini pci under keyboard, swap wifi card for atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 14" 1024 x 768 - very noisy clicky trackpad buttons - one dimm slot under keyboard and other in underside 2GB 533Mhz 667Mhz DDR2 max - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D610 (Quanta JM5B) 0C4717 REV A05, 0K3879 REV.A00 || <!--Chipset-->915GM || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA 2d - Ati X300 no radeon 2d}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG mini pci use Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 14" 1024 x 768 - very noisy clicky trackpad buttons - 19.5v psu |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D810 (Quanta ) || <!--Chipset-->915GM || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA 2d - Ati X300 RV370 M22 later x600}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 stereo playback only idt 9751 codec}} || <!--USB--> {{maybe|USB 2.0 but no boot from usb on 1.5}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG mini pci replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1, aros one 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 15.4" F12 one time boot menu - 19.5v 90w psu ideal - battery not same as later dx20 ones - |- | <!--Name-->Studio XPS M1210 || <!--Chipset-->GM945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->nVidia G72M 7300 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92xx || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401 B0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4311 - swap for Atheros 5k mini pci-e}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Inspirion E1705 9200 9300 9400 || <!--Chipset-->945GM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia 6800, ati X300 or nVidia 7900GS gpu 3d corrupt || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 swap with Atheros 5k mini pcie || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->[http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=6481 increasing vertical lines issues] |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1501 PP23LA Latitude 131L || <!--Chipset-->AMD on ATI RS480 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA 2d - ATI 1150 (x300) RS482M Mobility Radeon Xpress 200}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with stac 92xx codec}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom bcm 4401}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bcm4311 replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit 15.4 inch Matt 16:10, 1280x800 pixel, WXGA TFT Display - first Dell AMD machine - Sempron 1.8GHz Turion MK-36 or X2 1.6Ghz TL-50 or TL-56 |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 6000 6400, E1505 PP20L, 9300, 9200 PP14L *A00 Pentium M *A0? Core Duo || <!--Chipset-->GM945 with PM 1.73Ghz, T2050 or T2060 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|vesa 2d - Ati 9700, x1300 RV515 M52, x1400 or nvidia go 7300 on mxm board}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio IDT 9200}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|usb boot }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom BCM4401 B0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200 3945 - swap for Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1, AROS One 1.6 || <!--Comments-->2006 mostly 32bit but - 15.4 inch glossy - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots - broadcom bcm92045 bluetooth detected but no support - 19.5v dell psu socket - f2 bios setup, f12 boot order - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 6400 (Quanta FM1) *A00 Pentium M *A0? Core Duo *A08 Core2 Duo || <!--Chipset-->GM945 with BGA479 (socket M) T2050 1.6Ghz, T2060 1.60Ghz, T2080 1.73Ghz much later T5500 1.66Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 2D and 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with IDT 92xx codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Broadcom BCM4401 B0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4311 swap for Atheros 5k mini pci-e under keyboard}} || <!--Test Distro-->deadwood 2019-04-16 iso || <!--Comments-->2006 mostly 32bit - 15.4" glossy - sd card - front multimedia keys - dvd rw - generic dell keyboard - coin cr2032 bios battery under keyboard - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 640m PP19L XPS M140 e1405 || <!--Chipset-->Core Solo T2050, T2300 Duo 1.83GHz T2400 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM4401-B0 100Base || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 or Broadcom 43xx, swap for Atheros 5k - Wireless Internet ON or OFF press the Function key + F2}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32 bit - 12.1 LCD CCFL WXGA 1280x800 up to 14.1 inch 16:10 1440x900 pixel, WXGA+ UltraSharp - supports also SSE3 on duos - |- | <!--Name-->Precision M65 M90 XPS M1710 || <!--Chipset-->945PM with T2600 T2700 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->nVidia Quadro FX 350M 1600M 1500M G71 on par with the Go7900 GS to GTX 7950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with STAC 92XX codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5752 || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom BCM4311 BCM4328 swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 17" workstation type WXGA+ screen manufactured by AU Optronics poor viewing angles, unevenly lit, light leakage |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D420 (Compal LA-3071P) PP09S || <!--Chipset-->945 * revA00 Solo 1.2Ghz ULV U1400 * revA01 Duo 1.06Ghz u2500 * revA02 Duo 1.2Ghz | <!--IDE-->{{yes|ZIF/CE 1.8" slow under battery, ribbon cable}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA950 - 2D and 3D opengl tunnel 138 gearbox 103}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with STAC 92xx playback speakers head phones only)}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|2 and external usb optical drive works}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 mini pcie - swap Atheros 5k in base panel}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros Desktop 1.4 || <!--Opinion-->2006 32bit only - 12.1" 1280x800 - PR09S dock base rev02 DVD-RW usb boots - 1GB DDR2 2Rx16 max in base panel - f2 setup f5 diagnostics f12 boot list - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D520 PP17L || <!--Chipset--> * 64bit rev A01, A02 945GM Core2 Duo 1.83Ghz to 2.3Ghz * 32bit rev A00, A01 940GML Solo later Duo T2400 | <!--IDE-->{{yes|DVD-ROM Rev00 Philips SDR089 - CDRW/DVDROM Philips CDD5263 or TEAC DW224EV - DVD+-RW Rev00 Optiarc AD-5540A or HL-DL-ST GSAT21N, rev01 TSSTcorp TS-L632D}} || {{Yes|bios sata set to ide mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 900 series 2D and OpenGL1 3D tunnel 210 gearbox 153 teapot 27}} || {{Yes|HD audio with STAC 9200 codec}} || {{Yes|Boots and detects USB2.0}} || {{Yes|Broadcom 4400}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4312 BCM4321 Dell 1390 / 1490 mini pcie - easy to replace with atheros 5k in base panel}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4 and 2.2 and AROS One usb 1.8 and grub boot add 'noacpi' || 2006 mostly 64bit 4:3 aspect ratio 14.1 (XGA 1024x768) or later 15 inches (XGA+ 1400 by 1050) - F2 enter bios F12 choose boot - 19.5v dell tip pa-12 charger - bios coin cell cr2032 battery socketed in base panel - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D620 (Compal LA-2792) PP18L || <!--Chipset-->945GMS * rev A00 all Core Duo's 32 bit * rev A0x all Core 2 Duo's 64 bit | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 950 (2D and 3D tunnel gearbox opengl1 || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio playback}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 3945 mini pcie swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->AspireOS Xenon || <!--Opinion-->2006 64bit AROS capable with later revisions - 14" 1280 x 800 |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D620 || <!--Chipset-->Intel i945 * revA00 all Core Duo's 32 bit * revA01 all Core 2 Duo's 64 bit | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia 7300, 7600 NVS 110M G72 || <!--Audio-->{{dunno|HD Audio with STAC 9200 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless--> {{dunno}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2007 1440x900 screen - LA-2792P Rev.2.0 - DT785 UC218 Fan/ Heatsink (64bit) - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D820 (Quanta JM6) || <!--Chipset-->945GMS 940GML * rev A00 * rev A01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 2D and 3D tunnel 195 - 100? gearbox 156}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with STAC 9200 playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|BCM4310 replace with mini pcie atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Opinion-->2007 widescreen 15 inch 1280 x 800 matte - - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D820 (Quanta JM) || <!--Chipset-->945GMS 940GML * revA00 * revA01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Nvidia NVS 110M 120M G72}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio STAC 9200}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|BCM4310 swap with Atheros 5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2007 64bit 15.4 1650x1050 WXGA or WSXGA+ or 1920x1200 WUXGA - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Latitude D531 15" || <!--Chipset-->AMD Turion X2 TL56 or TL60 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Use VESA - ATi xpress X1270}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with IDT codec || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 57xx}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 or Dell Wireless 1390, 1505 or BCM4311 mini pcie || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit possible - no trackpoint - fails and goes wrong often - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D430 PP09S || <!--Chipset-->945 with Core2 Duo C2D U7500 1.06GHz U7600 1.2GHz U7700 1.33GHz * rev A00 * rev A01 * rev A02 | <!--IDE-->ZIF PATA IDE 1.8inch under battery and ribbon cable - slow use USB instead || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|945GML 2D and 3D opengl 1.x 171 tunnel 105 gearbox}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|STAC 92xx HD Audio speaker and ear phone - mono speaker}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|3 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5752}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 4965 AGN or 3945 ABG mini pci-e underside with Atheros 5k mini pci-e}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aspire 1.8 || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit capable - sd card not supported - 19.5v PA12 power adapter - 12.1" 1280x800 matte - f2 setup f5 diagnostics f12 boot list - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D530 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 + ICH8 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|nVidia Quadro NVS 135M 2D 3d glitches G86}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.5 || <!--Comments-->2007 [http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=6481 ] cool air intake from underneath needed with pa-10 or pa-3e 90w psu required - standard 4:3 ratio aspect screen - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D630 (Compal LA-3301P) PP18L || <!--Chipset-->GM965 + ICH8 T7250 2.0Ghz T7300 * revA00 * revA01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA X3100 (2D only, no external monitor)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio STAC 9205 but speaker and head phones}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB 2.0}}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom BCM4312 swap with pci-e Atheros 5k under keyboard}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit possible - F12 to choose boot option - 2 ddr2 sodimm max 4G - 4400mah 48Wh battery lasts 2 hours - 6600mah 73Wh lasts just over 3 hours |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D630 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 + ICH8 * revA00 [http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=6481 ] GPU heatpad, no copper * revA01 0DT785 heatsink | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|use VESA as nVidia NVS 135M 3d corrupts 0.7 tunnel 0.25 gearbox G86}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG swap with Atheros 5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.5 || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D830 || <!--Chipset-->965GM with Core2 * revA00 * revA01 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GM965 crestline 2d and 3d tunnel 115}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|replace with Atheros 5k mini pcie}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros || <!--Comments-->2007 15 inch 1280 x 900 but updating the LCD to WXGA or WSXGA+ could be better - 2 ddr2 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude D830 || <!--Chipset-->ICH8, Core2 DUO T7800 @ 2.60GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Intel ICH8M Serial ATA || <!--Gfx-->nVidia Quadro NVS 140M G86 || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with STAC 92XX codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit || <!--Wireless-->Intel Wireless 4965AGN swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.03 || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit 15." - FN,F2 or FN,F8 or FN,F12 |- | <!--Name-->XPS M1330 M1530 M1730 - WISTRON Hawke || <!--Chipset-->965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{No|Intel 965 with either Nvidia 8400M 8600M 8700M or 8800GT G84 G86}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio STAC 9228 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom or Marvell 88E8040 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro-->ICAROS 1.5 || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit Did not boot |- | <!--Name-->Precision M2300 M4300 M6300 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|use VESA nVidia Quadro FX 360M (8400GS) 3600M 3500M 2500M G86 to G92}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG 4965 swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2007 14" 15.6" 17" |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 1310 1510 (Compal LA-4592P) 1710 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo T7600 or Celeron 540 GMA965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GM965 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC268 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 4965 swap with Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit Celeron 540 added 64 bit support (doubling transistor count) |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 1320 1520 (Compal LA-4592P) 1720 (Compal LA-4671P) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 965 || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC268 or IDT 92HD8X codec || <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4312 or Dell Wireless 1397}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 up to 17 inch with 13.3 inch WXGA Anti-Glare matt or glossy LED Display (1280 x 800) - |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 1320 1520 (Compal LA-4592P) 1720 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvdia 9300m to 9600M GS G96 || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC268 or IDT 92HD8X codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4312 swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 15.4” screen Vostro 1520 with excessive heat buildup on the left hand side palm rest |- | <!--Name-->Precision M2400 M4400 M6400 || <!--Chipset-->GM965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA 2d for nVidia Quadro FX 770M G86}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio with STAC 9205 head phones only}} || <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5755M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2008 14" 15.6" 17" |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1525 PP29L || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo or Core2 Duo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT codec || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4312}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 32bit much later 64bit 15.4" 1200 x 800 - 19.5v dell psu - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1545 PP41L || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 4500MHD || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HD71B codec || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8040}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4312}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 15.6" |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E4200 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo U9400 U9300 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->64gig ssd with ribbon cable || <!--Gfx-->Intel GM45 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HD 71B7X codec || <!--USB--> NEC uPD720202 || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82567LM}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4322 or Intel’s 5100 or 5300}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64 - 12.1in 1,280 x 800 poor color accuracy magnesium alloy body - easily replaced keyboard - 1 ddr3 sodimm slot - Microdia cam - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E5400 E5500 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio but no sound}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM5761e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E4300 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core 2 Duo P9400 2.4GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 4500 MHD || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HDxxx || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82567LM || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel PRO Wireless 5300 AGN}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit - 13.3" WXGA - sd card Broadcom BCM5880 - |- | <!--Name-->Lattitude E6400 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo P9500 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel GMA 4500M HD 2D with NVIDIA QUADRO NVS 160M G98}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD with IDT 92HD71 codec or later 92HDM61}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom BCM4312 or Intel 5300 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 early ones problems with the keyboard ribbon cable connector, trackpoints were not good |- | <!--Name-->Latittude E4310 E5410 ATG || <!--Chipset-->Intel 5 series Intel Core i5 560M 1st gen || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA HD 5700 mhd || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with IDT 92HDxx Codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82577LM || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4313 too small 30x30 to swap}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64Bit clarkdale codename CPUs - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude E6410 E6510 E6310 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core i7 620M i7 820QM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|NVidia NVS 3100M GT218 2D but 3D through external monitor}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio IDT 92HD81}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom or Intel 6200AGN or Link 6300}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3 || <!--Comments-->2010 64 bit |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron M5030 || <!--Chipset-->rev A01 AMD V120, V140 rev A0? V160 M880G || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA RS880M Radeon HD 4225, 4250}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with ALC269q codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8152 v2}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - DDR3 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 1546 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 4330M 530v || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 91HD81 codec || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8103EL-GR || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - 15.6" - alps touchpad - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->XPS 15 15Z L501X L502X 17 17Z L701X L702X || <!--Chipset-->i7 840QM to i7 2630QM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel HD 3000 with Nvidia 555, 525M, 540M, 555M or 435M 420M GF108M optimus || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111e || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit first models not Sandybridge but later are - 17.3-inch 1600 × 900 to 15.6-inch - not many working now |- | <!--Name-->E6420 E6520 ATG semi ruggized XFR || <!--Chipset-->sandy bridge i5 2520M 2540M or duo I7 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->set to Bios UEFI mode AHCI || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel HD 3000 with optional fermi Nvidia NVS 4200M GF119}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with IDT 92HD90 BXX codec but not HDMI codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6205}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.03 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit 15.6in - fan exhausts a lot of hot air when cpu taxed - VGA if Bios ATA set and Vesa only with Bios ACHI set - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron M5040 || <!--Chipset-->slow amd E450, later C-50 C50 or C-60 C60 with A50M chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->non efi sata in IDE mode but base plastic difficult to remove for access || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA AMD Radeon 6320, 6250 or 6290}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio IDT}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8105E VB 10/100}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros AR9285 no space for swap}} || <!--Test Distro-->icaros 2.1.1 and AROS USB 1.6 || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit 15INCH 1388 X 768 - f2 bios setup, f12 boot order - under removable keyboard via 4 top spring loaded catches is 1 ddr3l sodimm max 8gb and wifi - |- | Latitude e6230 E6330 E6430 || i3 3320M 3350M 2.8 GHz i5 3360M i7 3520M || {{N/A}} || {{partial|non RAID mode}} || {{partial|Intel HD 4000 (VESA only)}} || {{no|HD Audio}} || {{partial|Intel USB 3.0 (USB 1.1 2.0 only)}} || {{No|Intel 82579LM Gigabit}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313}} || <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2014 09-27 || 2013 64bit Ivy Bridge - 12.5-inch 13.3-inch 14-inch screen - not great support, better under hosted - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 15 3521 5521 5721, Vostro 3555 || <!--Chipset-->i5 i7 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel HD 4000 or Radeon 8730M or 7670M || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC850 ?? || <!--USB-->USB 3.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E RTL8105E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros or Dell 1703 1704 1705}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.3 || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit AVX Panther Point Ivy Bridge Intel(R) 7 Series Mobile - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 15‑3541 15‑3542 P40F001 P40F002 || <!--Chipset-->AMD E1 2100 6010 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Partial|VESA 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{unk| }} || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit no AVX - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Inspiron 15 5565 5567 AMD versions || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9200u A9-9400 A12-9700P Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->Radeon R5 R8 GCN 3 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 1GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - there are i-intel versions - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Latitude 5495 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 2300U 2500U 2700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe and 2.5in || <!--Gfx-->Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek ALC3246 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14.0" FHD WVA 1080p (16:9) 220 nits or 14.0" HD (1366 x 768) - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 32gb - 19.5V 65W 90W - care needed with usbc charging - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 3505, Vostro 3515 || <!--Chipset-->athlon 300u, Ryzen 3250u (2c4t) 3450u 3500u 3700u (4c8t), Athlon Silver (2c2t) Gold (2c4t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for Vega 8, 10}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Realtek ALC3204, Cirrus Logic CS8409 (CS42L42 and SN005825)}} || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|RTL 8106E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8723DE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64-bit - 15.6inch - 2 ddr4 sodimm max 16G - avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 5485 2-in-1 || <!--Chipset-->athlon 300u, Ryzen 3250u (2c4t) 3450u 3500u 3700u (4c8t), Athlon Silver (2c2t) Gold (2c4t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA 2D for Vega 8, 10}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Realtek ALC3204}} || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8723DE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64-bit - 14inch - 2 ddr4 sodimm max 16G - avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Latitude 3500 3410 3510 5410 5510 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Core i5 (8th Gen) 8265U, i5-10210U, CORE i5-10310U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{no|Intel UHD Graphics 620}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|Realtek ALC3204}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111H}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - Realtek LAN port for WD19/22 docks untested - |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron 5405 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 4500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->One M.2 2230/2280 nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek ALC3204 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14" 1080p - dell round ac - |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 5415, Inspiron 5515 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 5300U, Ryzen 5 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 14" or 15.6in - avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use or use dell round ac - replacing keyboard not easy - 1 ddr4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Vostro 3425, Vostro 3525, Vostro 5625 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 5425U, Ryzen 5 5625U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB4}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 14in 15.6" to 16" FHD 1080p - dell round ac or avoid knocking usb-c charging whilst in use - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Inspiron 15 Model 3535, Inspiron 14 7435 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 7520U, AMD Ryzen 5 7530U, 7 7730U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{No| hdmi 1.4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with codec }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2024 64bit - 14.0" or 15.6" 1080p - dell round ac or usb-c charging - full sd card slot - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |} ====Fujitsu-Siemens==== [[#top|...to the top]] Order of build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Amilo Esprimo Lifebook </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu [http://www.labri.fr/perso/fleury/index.php?page=bug_transmeta FMV-Biblo Loox S73A (Japan P1100) LifeBook P1120 Biblo Loox T93C (Japan P2120) P2020] || <!--Chipset-->Transmeta Crusoe CPU TM5600 633MHz with Ali M1535 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->ATI Rage Mobility M with 4MB SDRAM || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 Ali M1535 + STAC9723 Codec}} || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 only || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1999 32bit 10" 1280 x 600 matte LCD - QuickPoint IV mouse - metal chassis with palm rest plastic - 15GB 2.5 inch drive and SR 8175 8X DVD-ROM drive - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook S7000 S7010 S7010D S2020 || <!--Chipset-->Pentium M 1.6 or 1.7GHz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - Intel 855}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|AC97 with STAC 9751T or 9767 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros, Broadcom or Intel 2200BG - FN,F10}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit 14.1 inch with minimal support |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook e8010 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Intel 855GM}} || <!--Audio-->AC97 STAC9767 or ALC203 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5705M}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3.1 || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit 15.1 inch |- | <!--Name-->Stylistic ST5000 ST5010 ST5011 ST5012 ST5020 ST5021 ST5022 || <!--Chipset-->1.0GHz P-M and later 1.1GHz on Intel 855GME || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 800 use VESA || <!--Audio-->Intel AC97 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5788 tg3 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200BG}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit charged via a proprietary port power connector 16V 3.75A with wacom serial pen interface - indoor Screen transmissive 10.1 and later 12.1 XGA TFT - |- | <!--Name-->Amilo Pro V2010 || <!--Chipset-->VIA CN400 PM880 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|S3 unichrome use VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|VIA AC97 VT8237 with codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Rhine 6102 6103 || <!--Wireless-->RaLink RT2500 || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit boot mount - unknown bootstrap error then crashes |- | <!--Name-->Amilo Li 1705 CN896 || <!--Chipset--> with VIA P4M900 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE}} || <!--Gfx-->ATi || <!--Audio-->{{No|VIA VT8237 HD Audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->VT82xx 62xx || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|VIA Rhine}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros G}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit random freezes |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> Esprimo Mobile V5535 Skt mPGA 478MN | <!--Chipset--> | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE and EIDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{maybe|IDE mode with SIS 5513}} | <!--Gfx--> {{maybe|SiS 771 / 671 (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|HD Audio SIS968 SIS966 SI7012 with ALC268 codec}} | <!--USB--> {{no|USB 1.1 and 2.0 issues}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|SiS 191 gigabit}} | <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros AR5001 mini pci express}} | <!--Test Distro-->aros one 1.5 usb | <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 20v barrel - f2 setup f12 multi boot - random freezing short time after booting - chipset SIS 671MX - |- | <!--Name-->Amilo SI 1520 1521p || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio Conexant codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Intel Pro 100}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.4.2 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit - Set Bios option ATA Control Mode to Compatible |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook S7020 S7020D || <!--Chipset--> Pentium M 740 1.73MHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 915 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC260 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5751M Gigabit || <!--Wireless-->Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG or Atheros 5k || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Stylistic ST5030 ST5031 ST5032 || <!--Chipset-->1 to 1.2GHx Pentium M with 915GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 900 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Marvell || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit charged via a proprietary port power connector 6.0 x 4.4 mm round - 200 pin ddr2 ram |- | <!--Name-->Stylistic ST5110 ST5111 ST5112 || <!--Chipset-->945GM with 1.2GHz Core Duo and Core2 Duo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 900 || <!--Audio-->HD audio with STAC9228 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 ABG or optional atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 either 32 or 64 bit - charged via a proprietary port power connector 6.0 x 4.4 mm round - SigmaTel® touchscreen - |- | <!--Name-->E8110 S7110 E8210 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|945GM}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC262 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8055 Gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit Core Duo |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || CHIPSET || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Lifebook PH521 || <!--Chipset-->AMD E-350 E-450 1.65GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->HD 6310M 6320M || <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC269 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 802.11 bgn}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6 inch 1366x768 pixels - DDR3 1066MHz - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====HP Compaq==== [[#top|...to the top]] Build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Presario Pavilion Omnibook ProBook Armada Elitebook </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->1c00 series Compaq Presario [http://users.utu.fi/sjsepp/linuxcompaqarmada100s.html Armada 100S made by Mitac], 1247 || <!--Chipset-->K6-II with PE133 MVP-4 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA - Trident Blade3D AGP sp16953 || <!--Audio-->VIA ac'97 audio [rev20] with AD1881A codec || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|usual VIA issues [rev10]}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit 192MB max - PCcard Texas PC1211 no support - 1200 XL1 1200-XL1xx, XL101, XL103 XL105 XL106 XL109 XL110 XL111 XL116 XL118 XL119 XL125 |- | <!--Name-->1c01 series Armada 110, Evo N150 || <!--Chipset-->Intel with VIA PLE133 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - Trident Cyber Blade i1 chipset || <!--Audio-->VIA 686 rev20 82xxx 686a || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82557 Pro 100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit max 192mb sodimm 100Mhz 133Mhz ram memory - 1200-XL405A 12XL405A XL502A 12XL502A 1600XL |- | Armada M300 M700 E500 || 440BX || {{Yes| }} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|ATI Rage LT M1 Mobility (VESA only)}} || {{no|AC97 ESS Maestro 2E M2E ES1987 sound}} || {{yes|USB1.1 only}} || {{No|[http://perho.org/stuff/m300/index_en.html Intel PRO 100+ Mini PCI]}} || {{N/A}} || Aspire OS 2012, Nightly 30-01 2013 and 04-05 2013 || 1999 32bit - F10 bios options and Fn+F11 reset CMOS with 64mb ram already on board |- | <!--Name-->HP Omnibook XE3 || <!--Chipset-->Intel BX 600Mhz GC model 256mb or AMD GD 500Mhz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA - S3 Inc. 86C270 294 Savage IX-MV (rev 11) || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1988 Allegro 1 (rev 12)}} || <!--USB-->Intel 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit no cardbus pcmcia support - no audio from Polk Audio Speakers - |- | <!--Name-->HP Omnibook XE3 || <!--Chipset-->82830 ICH3 P3-M 750MHz 800Mhz 900MHz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - CGC 830MG}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ESS ES1988 Maestro 3i}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|only one 1.1 port}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|e100 82557}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A|}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.51 || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit Boots USB Stick via Plop boot floppy - Memory for GF 256-512mb, GS up 1GB |- | <!--Name-->TC1000 TC-1000 Tablet PC || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA NV11 [GeForce2 Go] (rev b2) || <!--Audio-->VIA AC97 Audio (rev 50) || <!--USB-->OHCI NEC USB 2.0 (rev 02) || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82551 QM (rev 10) || <!--Wireless-->Atmel at76c506 802.11b || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit Transmeta LongRun (rev 03) with VT82C686 - Texas Instruments TI PCI1520 PC card Cardbus |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq R3000 ZV5000 (Compal LA-1851) || <!--Chipset-->Nvidia nForce 3 with AMD CPU || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia NV17 [GeForce4 420 Go 32M] || <!--Audio-->Nvidia || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom or Realtek RTL8139 || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4303 BCM4306 or Atheros bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - HPs have a setting to automatically disable wireless if a wired connection is detected |- | <!--Name-->Compaq [http://www.walterswebsite.us/drivers.htm Presario 700 series] || <!--Chipset-->VT8363 VT8365 [Apollo Pro KT133 KM133] || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VT8636A (S3 Savage TwisterK) (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|VIA AC97 [rev50] with AD1886 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|VIA UHCI USB 1.1 [rev1a]}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RealTek RTL8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom BCM4306}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit poor consumer grade level construction - jbl audio pro speakers - no support for cardbus pcmcia TI PCI1410 - 700A EA LA UK US Z 701AP EA BR FR 701Z 702US 703US AP JP audio sp18895 Sp19472 |- |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | N400c || P3-M 82845 || {{yes|82801 CAM IDE U100}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Rage Mobility 128 (VESA only)}} || {{No|Maestro 3 allegro 1}} || {{yes|USB1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VM (KM)}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit Has no optical disc drive |- | N410c || P3-M 82845 || {{yes|82801 CAM IDE U100}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Radeon Mobility M7 LW 7500 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|Intel AC97 with AD1886 codec}} || {{yes|USB1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VM (KM)}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit Has no optical disc drive |- | Evo N600c || Pentium 4 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI Radeon Mobility M7 (VESA only)}} || {{No|ESS ES1968 Maestro 2}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2003 32bit |- | Evo N610c || Pentium 4 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI Radeon Mobility M7 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|Intel ICH AC97 with AD1886 codec}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || |- | N800c || P4 || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2003 32bit P4M CPU can get very warm |- | <!--Name-->NX7010 || <!--Chipset-->Intel || <!--IDE-->{{yes|IDE}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|ATI mobility 7500 or 9000 Radeon 9200 64MB (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 ADI codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|uhci (1.1) and ehci (2.0)}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200b bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Preasrio V5000 (Compal LA-2771) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Sempron 3000+ or Turion ML with SB400 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - Ati RS480M Xpress 200}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 ATI with Conexant CX 20468 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8100 8101L 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|bcm4318 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2004 64bit single core machine V5001 V5002 V5002EA V5003 |- | <!--Name-->TC1100 TC-1100 Tablet PC || <!--Chipset-->855PM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia Geforce4 Go || <!--Audio-->AC97 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|BCM 4400}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros wlan W400 W500 or ? bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit |- | <!--Name-->NC6000 NC8000 NW8000 || <!--Chipset-->855PM with Pentium M 1.5 1.6 1.8GHz 2.0GHz || <!--IDE-->max 160 GB for NW 8000 || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Ati RV350 mobility 9600 M10 Fire GL T2 ISV use VESA 2D as no laptop display}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel AC97 with ADI codec playback only}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|2 ports}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM 5705M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|mini pci Atheros 5212 BG W400 W500 or Intel - all bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 based [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=41916&forum=47 works] - Firewire TI TSB43AB22/A - 8 pound 2.5 kg travel weight - an SD slot as well as two PC Card slots - 15-inch UXGA screen (1,600 x 1,200) or 15" SXGA+ (1400 x 1050) (4:3 ratio) |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Compaq NC6110 NX6110 NC6120 NC6220 NC4200 NC8200 TC4200 || <!--Chipset-->GMA 915GML || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D GMA 900}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 with ADI AD1981B playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|440x or BCM 5705M or 5751M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel IPW 2200 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5.2 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit Sonoma based - Wifi with Atheros AR5007eg if apply hacked bios RISKY else use USB one - (INVENTEC ASPEN UMA MV) (INVENTEC ASPEN DIS PV) - |- | <!--Name-->Compaq C500 CTO aka HP G7000 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 945GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with realtek ALC262 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom BCM 4311 bios locked || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->HP DV6000 || <!--Chipset-->945GMS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio IDT 92HD 91B || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel PRO 100 VE || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32 bit only - Mosfet FDS6679 common cause of shorts giving no power to the tip. To reset adapter, unplug from AC (mains) and wait 15-30 sec. Then plug in again - |- | Presario F700 series, HP G6000 f730us F750 F750us F755US F756NR F765em || AMD Turion Mono MK-36 2.0Ghz NForce 560m or Twin X2 TK-55 with nForce 610m MCP67 || {{N/A| }} || {{Yes|but needs special sata adapt bit and caddy}} || {{Yes|GF Go 7000m 2D and 3D 640x350 to 1280x800 - ball solder issues due to poor cooling}} || {{Maybe| }} || {{Maybe|uhci and ehci boots}} || {{No|Nvidia }} || {{Yes|Atheros AR5007 bios locked}} || Icaros 1.3.1 and Aros One 1.6 USB || 2006 64bit - f9 boot device f10 bios setup - random freezes after a minutes use means internal ventilation maintenance needed each year essential - No sd card and overall limited phoenix bios options - |- | <!--Name-->Presario v6604au v6608au V3500 || <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA MCP67M with AMD Athlon64 X2 TK 55 amd 1.8ghz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|SATA 150}} || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA GeForce Go 7150M 630i or C67 630M MCP67 || <!--Audio-->conexant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia or Realtek 10/100 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4311 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit Altec Lansing Stereo Speakers - ball solder issues - |- | <!--Name-->Compaq presario v6610 v6615eo v6620us || <!--Chipset-->Turion 64 X2 mobile TK-55 / 1.8 GHz to athlon 64x2 @ 2.4ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|SATA 150}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|geforce 7150 or 7300m 2d and 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AMD HD Audio with IDT codec stereo playback only}} || <!--USB-->3 OHCI EHCI || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3 - || <!--Comments-->2007 [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=40956&forum=48 works well] - 1 x ExpressCard/54 - SD Card slot - AO4407 test voltage of the Drain side (pins 5-8) with AC adapter and no battery, see 0 volts, connect the battery you should have 10-14v - |- | <!--Name-->v6630em v6642em || <!--Chipset-->nForce 630M with AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-58 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA GeForce 6150M or 7150M || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit 15.4 in 1280 x 800 ( WXGA ) - |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq NC6400 || <!--Chipset-->945GM Core Duo || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|GMA 950 2D issues and no 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio AD1981HD}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros || <!--Comments-->2007 - replaced with Atheros AR5007eg if apply hacked bios RISKY else use USB g - * 32bit Core Duo T2400 * 64bit Core 2 Duo T5600 T7600 |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq NV NC6400 || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo + 945PM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Radeon x1300M (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with ADI1981 low volume}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|BCM 5753M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 ABG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.4.2 || <!--Opinion-->2007 Harmon Kardon speakers |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq NC6320 || <!--Chipset-->945GM with * 32bit Core Duo 1.83GHz T2400 * 64bit Core2 Duo 1.83GHz T5600 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 950 2D with a little 3D tunnel 213}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD Audio with AD1981HD codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM 5788}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2 || <!--Comments-->2007 replaced with Atheros AR5007eg if applying hacked wifi bios RISKY!! else use USB - 14.1" or 15 inch XGA 1024x768 - noisy cpu fan for core2 - trackpad rhs acts as window scroller - |- | <!--Name-->HP NC4400 TC4400 Tablet || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo with 82945 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|bios F.07 limits to 100GB 120GB}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|2D and 3D 282 tunnel and gearbox 150}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ADI 1981HD codec via ear phones}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|BCM 5753M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 or BCM 4306 - Whitelist BIOS F.0C needed but risky}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->2008 64 bit possible with Core2 - TI SD card reader non bootable - wacom serial digitiser pen not working - * 32bit 1.86GHz core duo * 64bit 2Ghz T7200, 2.16Ghz Core 2 Duo T7600 2.33GHz |- | <!--Name-->HP Pavilion DV2000 CTO || <!--Chipset-->945GMS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950, X3100, Nvidia 8400M || <!--Audio-->HD Audio Conexant CX 20549 Venice || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia MCP51 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM 4311 or Intel 3945 4965 ABG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 Atheros AR5007eg if apply hacked bios RISKY |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Presario C700 || <!--Chipset-->GMA960 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->X3100 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139 || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros AR5007 AR5001 AR242x}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 |- | <!--Name-->Compaq 2510p 6510b 6710b 6910b || <!--Chipset-->GMA 965GM GL960 || <!--IDE-->{{yes| || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|X3100 some 2d but slow software 3d only}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio ADI AD1981 HD low volume on head phones}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82566 or Broadcom BCM 5787M}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945ABG or 4965ABG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Aspire OS Xenon 2014 || <!--Comments-->2008 no sd card boot support - F9 to choose boot option - [http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/7681-This-is-no-request-thread!-HP-COMPAQ-bioses-how-to-modify-the-bios/page111?p=333358#post333358 whitelist removal (risky) bios block for wifi card swap] |- | <!--Name-->CQ40 CQ41 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BC4310 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Presario CQ35 CQ36 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4312 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 Compal LA-4743P - |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq CQ42 CQ43 CQ45 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Coxenant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8191SE, Realtek 8188CE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 (Quanta AX1) |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Presario CQ50 CQ56 || <!--Chipset-->Nvidia MCP78S || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Geforce 8200M || <!--Audio-->nVidia HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->nvidia MCP77 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR928X bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 [http://donovan6000.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/insyde-bios-modding-wifi-and-wwan-whitelists.html bios modding risky] MCP72XE MCP72P MCP78U MCP78S |- | <!--Name-->HP Pavilion dv4 dv4z(AMD), dv5 (dv5z AMD), dv7 (dv7z AMD) || <!--Chipset-->QL-60, QL-62 (AMD Turion 64 X2) RM-70, RM-72, ZM-80, ZM-84, (AMD Turion II) M520 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->HD 3200 3450 4530 4550 4650 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit - 14.1" dv4, dv5 features a 15.4" and the HP Pavilion dv7 a 17" display |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->CQ57z || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD E-300 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA ATi HD 6310 wrestler}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101 RTL8102 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RaLink RT5390}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->HP CQ58z 103SA E5K15EA || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD Dual-Core E1-1500 APU with A68M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Radeon HD 7310}} || <!--Audio-->Realtek idt codec || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 10/100 BASE-T}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 39.6 cm (15.6") HD BrightView LED-backlit (1366 x 768) |- | <!--Name-->HP 635 DM1 || <!--Chipset-->Slow E-300, E-450 later E2-1800 on SB7x0 SB8x0 SB9x0 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->ATI non efi SATA AHCI - IDE mode || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA 2D - AMD HD6310, 6320 to HD7340}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ALC270A GR but not Wrestler HDMI Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 driver covers Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 14" 1366 x 768 - f9 f10 - external battery - 2 stacked ddr3l sodimm slots max 16Gb under one base plate - removable keyboard - |- | <!--Name-->HP G6 2000-2b10NR 2000-2d10SX 2000-2d80NR || <!--Chipset-->E1-2000 E2-3000M on A50M (soldered) A4-3305A on A60M (socket) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Radeon 6320, 6620G, 6520G, 6480G, 6380G}} || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 100 1000 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 39.6-cm (15.6-in) HD LED BrightView (1366×768) - 1 or 2 ddr3l max 8G - 19VDC 3.42A Max 65W Tip 7.4mm x 5.0mm - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 6465B || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-3310MX or A6-3410MX with A60M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD 6480G or 6520G}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|IDT 92HD81B1X}} || <!--USB--> USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel AC 6205 or broadcom 4313 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 13-inch or 14-inch runs hot - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 8470p 8570p || <!--Chipset-->Quad i7-3840QM to i7-3610QM, Dual i7-3520M to i5-3210M, Core i3-3130M to i3-2370M on Mobile Intel QM77 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|set the bios boot options to not fastboot and drive mode IDE rather than AHCI }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d for HD4000 with some having switchable Radeon M2000 or 7570M}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio for IDT codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82579LM }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel, Broadcom, Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro-->64 bit boots from CD* if safe mode 2 is used, although it is possible to remove the 'nodma' and 'debug' entries and boot || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit with SSE4.1 and AVX - 14in 1600 x 900 to 1366 x 768 - 2 DDR3L sodimm slots max 16Gb - TPM 1.2 - dual boot 32/64 bit is working fine - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 6475b, Probook 4445s 4545s, HP Pavilion 15-b115sa, [https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c04015674#AbT6 HP mt41 Mobile Thin Client PC] || <!--Chipset-->AMD A4 4300M, A6 4400M 4455M or A8 4500M with AMD A70M A76M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 7420 7520G 7640G 7660G}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with idt or realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek RTL8151FH-CG}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6205 or Broadcom BCM 43228 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6-inch - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 455 G1 F2P93UT#ABA, 645 G1, Envy 15-j151ea G7V80EA, Envy m6-1310sa (E4R01EA#ABU) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Quad A4-4300M A8-4500M A10-4600M A4-5150M A6-5350M 2.9Ghz A10-5750M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 7420G 7520G 7640G 7660G 8350G 8450G or 8550G, 8650G, 8750G }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio IDT 92HD91 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 14in and 15in 1366 x 768 - external battery - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - 19.5v / 4.62A psu runs hot - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 245 G4, 255 G1, 255 G2, 455 G2, 255 G3, 455 G3, 255 G4 80CB, 255 G5 82F6, 355 G2, HP Pavilion 15-p038na 15-g092sa 15-p091sa 15-G094S 15-p144na 15-p142na, 15-Af156sa || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD A4-5000 A6-5200, E2-6110, E1-6010 E2-2000, E1-2100 E2-3800, A4-6210 A6-6310 A8-6410, E2-7110, A6-7310 A8-7410 APU || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata some with cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R2 R4 R5}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC3201-GR || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8102E or Atheros 1GbE || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros AR9565}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit most have SSE4 AVX but E2-2000 does not - 15.6-inch (1366 x 768) - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - small 31Whr or 41Whr external battery covers 240 G4, 245 G4, 250 G4, 255 G4, 256 G4, 14G, 15G - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 645 g2, Probook 445 G2, Probook 245 G2 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-8600 A8-8700 a10- || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Radeon R5 R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel I219V 100/1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel or Qualcomm Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 14in and 15.6-inch HD (1366 x 768) or FHD 1080p - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots max 16GB - internal battery - hp ac psu tip - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 725 G2, 745 G2, 755 G2 || <!--Chipset-->Amd Quad A6-7050B A8-7150B 1.9GHz A10-7350B || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA on AMD R4 R5 Radeon R6 with DP and vga}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD audio with IDT 92HD91}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 PCIe GBE || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom or Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 12.5-inch, 14" or 15.6in (all 1366 x 768) - 19.5V 65w 45W AC adapter - internal pull up tab battery under base which slides off - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - keyboard swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->HP Probook 455 G3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-8700P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Radeon R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->1GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 2 ddr3l sodimm slots - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 725 G3, 745 G3, 755 G3, 725 G4, 745 G4, 755 G4, HP mt43 || <!--Chipset-->Amd A8-8600B, A10-8700B, A12-8800B to Quad A8 Pro 9600B to A10 9800 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA on AMD R5 R6 R7 with DP and vga but screen is low res, dull colours, and blurry}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD audio with IDT codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 5762 PCIe GBE}} || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8723BE-VB || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - 12.5-inch (1366 x 768) to 14" and 15.6in - 2 sodimm ddr3 - 19.5V 45W AC slim 4.5mm hp adapter - randomly shuts down and the noisy fans constantly on - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 645 G3, 655 G3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD 8th Gen A10-8730B, A8-9600B (4c4t) A6-8530B (2c2t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for AMD R5}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111HSH || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel or Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->HP Probook 455 G4, Probook 455 G5, || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-9600P APU, A9-9410, A6-9210 APU || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R4, R5 or R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 1GbE || <!--Wireless-->realtek or intel Wireless-AC 7265 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit 15.6in 1366 x 768 - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 645 G6, 255 G6, 255 G7 - 31Whr external battery covers HP all G6 and HP 14-BS, HP 14-BW, HP 15-BS || <!--Chipset-->AMD E2-9000e, A9-9420, 9220P, 9125 (all 2c) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata 2.5in and M.2, no cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for R2 R3 R4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RTL8188CTV, RTL8821CE or Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 3168}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - 19V 65W - DDR4 slot max 8Gb - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ProBook 245 g8 || <!--Chipset-->Range all dual cores - AMD A6-9225 APU, AMD A4-9125 APU, AMD PRO A6-8350B APU, AMD PRO A4-5350B APU || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R4 R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - many variants - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Pavilion 15z bw0xxx, 15-bw024na 15-ba506na, 15-bw060na 15-DB0521SA, HP Envy x360 15-ar052sa 2 in 1, || <!--Chipset-->AMD A9-9420 2c 2t, A10-9620p 4c4t 9700p 7th Gen Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R5 GCN 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 15.6in 768p or 1080p - internal battery - 19.5V 2.31A hp plug - 1 DDR4-1866 SDRAM sodimm slot - keyboard swap problematic - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteBook 725 G5, 735 G5, 745 G5, 755 G5, Probook 455 G6, 255 G7 7DE73EA || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 2200U 2300U (2c t), R5 2500U, R7 2700U (4c8t) Raven Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 Sata or NVMe and/or 2.5in sata if detachable ribbon cable present, no cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for AMD Vega 3, 6, or 8}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ALC236 0x10ec0236 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek or rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8821CE, 8822BE or Intel AC 8265 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - 12.5 to 15.6in up to 1080p - internal battery - 1 on smaller laptops or 2 ddr4 sodimm slots on larger laptops max 16Gb - usb-c charging care needed - keyboard swap problematic - esc bios setup f9 boot order - |- | <!--Name-->HP Envy x360 15-bq150sa, Envy x360 covertible 13 13-ag0xxx HP Envy x360 15-cp0xxx Ryzen 2500u || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 and Sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ?, ?, ALC295 0x10ec0295 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|realtek, none on 13in}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 13 or 15.6in 1080p - hp barrel or usb-c on 13in - ddr4 - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP 14-cm, 15-bw0, HP 15-db0043na, HP 15-db0996na, HP 15-db0997na, 17-ca0007na, 17-ca1, ProBook 645 G4 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 2200U (2c 4t) 2500U (4c 8t) with AMD Carrizo FCH 51 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 and 1 2.5in on some larger models || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R5 and later Vega 3 or 7}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Realtek ALC3227 and ATI HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|USB3 USB boot drive stuck on kitty's eyes}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111E || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RTL 8723DE 8821 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 USB || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit 2kg - screen is dim 14in, 15.6in or 17.3" 768p, later 1080p - 65W 19.5V ac adapter - internal 3-cell 41 Wh Li-ion battery does not last long - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - no DVD-Writer - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->[https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c06955717 ProBook 245 g8], Probook 445R G6, 455R G6, HP 255 G7 7DC73EA 2D200EA, HP14-dk0599sa, pavilion 15-cw1511na 15-cw1507sa || <!--Chipset-->Range mostly dual cores - AMD Athlon Gold 3150U (2c 2t), Silver 3050U APU (2c 2t), Pro 3145U APU to 3200U (2c 4t) and 3500U (4c 8t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 NVMe 2280 but usually no 2.5in mountings, no cdrw dvdrw || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3, 6 or 8 with up to 2gb ram taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with realtek ALC236 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 but no usb-c}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE RTL8111HSH || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek 8822BE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in / 15.6in dim panel 768p or 1080p - one heatpipe for cpu - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 16gb - 65 W Smart AC adapter, right angle, 4.5 mm or usb-c - keyboard swap problematic - cd-rw dvd-rw - plastic build - |- | <!--Name-->Elitebook 735 G6 5VA23AV, Elitebook 745 G6, 255 g8 || <!--Chipset-->AMD® Ryzen™ 5-3500U Ryzen 3-3300U AMD Ryzen 3-3250U AMD Athlon® Gold 3150U AMD Athlon Silver 3050U AMD 3020e || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|m.2 2280 nvme in legacy - hp sure start and secure boot disabled but still issues with gpt installs}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Vega 8, 5 or 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 6.34 ahi with realtek codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 type-A port boots stick partially to kitty eyes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169 realtek RTL8111E or 8111H}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|realtek or intel}} || <!--Test Distro-->{{No|Icaros 2.3 onto USB and AROS One 1.8 and 2.0 USB}} || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 1366x768 to 1920x1080 - 2 3200MHz DDR4 sodimms - 19.5V 2.31A or 20V 2.25 45W 4.5X3.0MM hp - esc bios setup, f9 boot device select - low travel keyboard - poor battery life - plastic hooked base with retained screws - elan touchpad? - |- | <!--Name-->Envy x360 13 laptop 13-ay0008na and 13 and 15.6' 2 in 1 convertible || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R5 4500U with carrizo FCH51 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega 6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel or Realtek wifi 6 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit 13.3in or 15.6in IPS 1080p - ram soldered - touch pen not supplied - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 445 G7, 455 G7 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 4300U 5 4500U 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 sata and 1 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with realtek alc236 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl169 realtek rtl8111ep || <!--Wireless-->{{No|realtek RTL8822CE or intel AC 9260 or Wi-Fi 6 AX200}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14 inch 768p or 1080p - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - smart 45w 65w hp or usb-c charging avoid damage - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteBook 745 G7, 845 G7, HP 15-EH0006NA || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 4300U, 5 4500U, PRO 4650U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->SSD M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Radeon Vega 8}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - Bang & Olufsen speakers - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 255 G8, HP 245 G9 Laptop || <!--Chipset-->AMD RYZEN 3 5425U, 5 5500U 5625U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega 6 or 8 hdmi 1.4B}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 1GBe}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8822CE or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 14" to 15.6in 1366 x 768 to 1080p poor gamut - 45 or 65w hp psu - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 16GB - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteBook 645 g7, 835 G8, 845 g8, HP ENVY x360 13 15 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 5650U, 7 5800U, R7 Pro 5850U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD Radeon}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 1Gbe on 645 only}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 13.3" or 14" 1080p - poor screens low nits and srgb score - 845 gets hot ue to poor cooling - slim round hp ac - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP Dev One, HP ProBook 455 G8 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, R7 5850U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 15.6" 1080p - 2 internal sodimm slots - hp barrel charging - |- | <!--Name-->HP probook 635 Aero G8 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 5600U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2921 64bit - 14in 1080p - 2 ddr4 slots - ec chip nuvoton NPCX797HA1B - bios winbond 250256JYEN - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitebook 845 g9 || <!--Chipset-->aMD 6000 series 6850u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 680m}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB4 thunderbolt type}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Qualcomm Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit aluminum case - 14in 1080p to 2140p 16:10 poor screen again - 2 internal ddr5 sodimm slots - usb-c ac charging avoid any knocks - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->HP ProBook 445 G10, 455 G10 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 7530U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no| }} || <!--USB-->{{no| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6in - hp round ac - |- | <!--Name-->HP ZBook Firefly 14" G11 Mobile Workstation, G11 QHD DreamColour Mobile Workstation || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen™ 7 8840HS, AMD Ryzen™ 9 8945HS || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2024 64bit - 35.6 cm (14") diagonal, WUXGA (1920 x 1200), IPS, anti-glare, 400 nits, 100% sRGB - 2 ddr5 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->HP ZBook Ultra G1a || <!--Chipset-->AMD AI Max Pro 390 12 Core, 395 16 Core || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD GPU || <!--Audio-->HDaudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - 14" Touch OLED 120Hz - 2 ddr 5 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->HP Envy 16" x360 (16-ad0007na) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen™ 7 8840HS, || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - 16GB, Touchscreen - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====IBM/Lenovo==== [[#top|...to the top]] Build quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > iSeries Edge Ideapad Thinkpad - good cases and construction but electronic internals same as anyone else </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad 390X 390E (2626) || <!--Chipset-->Neo Magic MM2200 with C400 P2-266 to P3 500MHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA || <!--Audio-->{{No|256AV or ESS Solo-1}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad 600x || <!--Chipset-->Intel 440BX || <!--IDE-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Neomagic NM2360 MagicMedia 256ZX}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Crystal CS4297A codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.3.1 || <!--Comments-->1998 32bit a little support - earlier 600 and 600e were Pentium 2 based |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X20 (2662-32U) X21 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 440 BX ZX DX || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 with Cirrus Logic Crystal cs4281}} || <!--USB-->1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->no mini pci intel e100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 32bit |- | Thinkpad T20 (2647) T21 (26) T22 || 440BX || {{Maybe| }} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|Savage IX-MV (VESA only)}} || {{no|Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/ 24/30}} || {{yes|USB 1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2002 32bit |- | <!--Name-->A21e (2628, 2655) A22e || <!--Chipset-->440MX || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Ati rage mobility || <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 Cs4299 CS4229}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->intel e100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2002 |- | Thinkpad T23 (2647) || i810 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|S3 Super Savage IX/C SDR (VESA only)}} || {{maybe|AC'97 CS4299}} || {{yes|USB 1.1}} || {{yes|Intel ICH3 PRO 100 VE}} || {{no|Realtek RTL8180L others with bios hacking risky}} || || 2003 32bit with some support |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X22 X23 X24 || <!--Chipset-->830 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATi Mobility M6 LY || <!--Audio-->Ac97 CS4299 || <!--USB-->2 x 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->Intel Pro 100 || <!--Wireless-->Actiontec Harris Semi Intersil Prism 2.5 (X23 and X24 only) || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit with slice Ultrabase X2 - |- | <!--Name-->A30 A30p || <!--Chipset-->830 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Ati Radeon M6 || <!--Audio-->AC97 CS 4299 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel Pro 100 ve || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->A31 A31p R31 R32 T30 || <!--Chipset-->830 || <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} || <!--Gfx-->Ati Radeon 7500 or FireGL || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 Intel with AD1881A codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes| Intel Pro 100 ve}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->[https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Android-Ecosystem-Developers/AROS-An-operation-system-inside-Android/td-p/1441741 Icaros 1.5.2] || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit Also tested with Icaros 2.0.3. |- | Thinkpad X30 (2673) X31 (2884-xx2) X31t || i830 || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA only Radeon M6 Mobility}} || {{yes|AC97 - AD1981B codec}} || {{yes|USB 1.1}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || {{no|Cisco Aironet or Intel 2915 but atheros with bios hacking}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2004 32bit sound bit distorted |- | <!--Name-->R50e R51 || <!--Chipset-->855M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel 855M use VESA}} || <!--Audio-->intel AC97 with AD1981B codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Intel 100 VE}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - |- | IBM Thinkpad T40 (2373) T41 T41p (2379) T42 T42p T43 T43p || Intel 8xx || {{partial|PIO}} || {{N/A}} || {{partial|ATI mobility 7500 9000 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97 playback}} || {{yes|uhci 1.1 and ehci 2.0}} || {{no|e1000}} || {{Maybe|Intel 2200bg bios locked but possible AR5BMB-44 AR5212 FRU 39T0081 mini PCI}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || 2004 32bit 16v IBM plug - Centrino Needs ATA=nodma option - issues with the inner chip of the SMT BGA graphics chip |- | Thinkpad X32 || i855 || {{yes|40, 60 or 80GB 2.5" PATA HDD}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA only ATI Mobility Radeon 7000 with 16MB}} || {{maybe| Intel AC'97 Audio with a AD1981B codec}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Intel 1000}} || {{no|Intel 2200 but atheros with bios hacking}} || Icaros 2.1 || 2004 32bit - 12.1" TFT display with 1024x768 resolution; 256 or 512MB PC2700 memory standard (2GB max) |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X40 X40t by Quanta || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel 800 (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel e1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel but most atheros with bios hacking - difficult though}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit last IBM design |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X41 (IBM) MT 1864 1865 2525 2526 2527 2528 x41t (Lenovo) MT 1866 1867 || <!--Chipset-->Intel with single core 1.5 1.6 and tablet 1.2GHz || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 915GML 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751M tg3}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel or MiniPCI Wi-Fi Atheros AR5BMB FRU 39T0081 but ordinary atheros 54meg needs risky bios hacking}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit - amongst first Lenovo design |- | <!--Name-->R52 (most 18xx) || <!--Chipset-->Intel 915 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 915GML 2D}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->R52 1846, 1847, 1848, 1849, 1850, 1870 || <!--Chipset-->ATi 200m || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{No|ATI}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 AD1981B}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom BCM5751M tg3}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad T60 T60P * 64bit - 6 or 8 is 16:10 on T60/p, eg. 8742-CTO 15.4" * 32bit - 1 and 2 are 14", 15" 4:3, like 2007-YM3 or 1952-CTO || <!--Chipset-->*any* T60/p will take a Core 2 Duo CPU with newer BIOS || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA (2D) with "p" graphics card (ATi V5200 or V5250) || <!--Audio-->{{no|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || {{no|e1000e 82573L}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel ipw3945 ABG but atheros with Middleton's or Zender BIOS hacking risky}} || Icaros 1.4 || <!--Comments-->2006 - |- | <!--Name-->X60 x60s x60t tablet || <!--Chipset-->945GMS 940GML || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|AD1981 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 3945 ABG or fru 39T5578 Atheros 5K AR5BXB6 ar5007eg with bios hacking}} || <!--Comments-->Icaros 1.4 || 2006 32bit - perhaps needs a zendered bios update but risky |- | <!--Name-->R60 R60e || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->intel 950 with optional radeon x1300 x1400 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with 1981HD codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel or Broadcom || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel 3945 or atheros fru 39T5578 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit |- | Thinkpad T61 T61p without Middleton's or Zender BIOS || Core 2 Duo CPU T7300 T8300 || {{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || Intel GMA (2D), NVS 140m or Quadro FX 570M () || {{no|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || {{no|e1000e 82573L}} || {{No|Intel but atheros with bios hacking risky}} || Icaros 1.6 || 2007 64bit |- | <!--Name-->X61 x61s X61T Tablet || <!--Chipset-->i965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 3100 (2D) slow 3D}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|AD1984 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->82566DM || <!--Wireless-->{{maybe|Atheros AR5212 (some revisions use Intel WLAN runs very hot) bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || 2007 64bit possible <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit ultrabook running very hot - |- | <!--Name-->R61 R61i || <!--Chipset-->Intel 965 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->intel 965 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with conexant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom BCM5787M || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 64bit |- | Lenovo 3000 N200 || <!--Chipset-->Santa Rosa || {{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe| }} || {{yes|Geforce 7300 (2D)}} || {{yes|ALC262 HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || {{no|Broadcom}} || {{no|Intel 3945 bios locked}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2007 64bit 3D graphics parts are supported but buggy. |- | Lenovo 3000 N200 / V200 || GM965 ICH9-M with Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo T5450 || {{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe| }} || {{yes|X3100 (2D)}} || {{Maybe|HD Audio ALC269VB or CX20549}} || {{yes| }} || {{no|BCM5906M}} || {{no|Intel 3965 / 4965AGN bios locked}} || Icaros 1.4.1 2.1 || 2007 64bits of laptop works |- | <!--Name-->X300 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo Merom SL7100 1.2GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1.8 inch || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel X3100}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio AD1984A || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 4965 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 64bit 13.3" TFT 1440x900 (WXGA+) with LED backlight |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad Edge 11″ AMD K325 || <!--Chipset-->M880G || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA for ATI HD4200}} || <!--Audio-->{{{{maybe|}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 8111}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|8192CE (Realtek 8176) bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2007 little support |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X301 || <!--Chipset-->Core 2 Duo Penryn SU9400 Su9600 with GM45 chipset || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1.8 inch micro SATA (uSATA) || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel X4500}} || <!--Audio-->AD1984A || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 5xxx WiFi link 5100, 5150, 5300 and 5350 (WiMAX) bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 WXGA+ (1440×900) LED backlight display - 2774 or 4057 Alps and 2776 Synaptics touchpad - optical bay interface is Legacy IDE (PATA) - Addonics ADMS18SA, Lycom ST-170m |- | <!--Name-->X100e || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon Neo Single-Core (MV-40) and dual cores || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|2.5in tray in ide mode in bios}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa ATI HD3200}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with CX20582 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8111}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek r8192se bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 11.6in 1366 x 768 - 20v 65W round barrel - enter f1 setup f11 diagnostics f12 boot list - runs very warm - |- | <!--Name-->SL400 SL500 || Intel || {{N/A}} || {{Yes|IDE mode}} || {{Maybe|Nvidia 9400M}} || {{Maybe|ALC269}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{Maybe|RTL8169}} || {{Maybe| bios locked}} || || |- | <!--Name-->SL410 SL510 || 965 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE mode}} || {{maybe|Intel GMA X4500M (some 2D)}} || {{yes|HD Audio with ALC269 codec - speaker and ear phones}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{yes|RTL8169}} || {{Maybe| bios locked}} || [http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=645774&postcount=28 Icaros 1.3] || 2009 64bit SL-410 |- | <!--Name-->T400 ODM Wistron || <!--Chipset-->i || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Intel 4500MHD works limited 2d no 3d - optional switchable Nvidia or ATi HD3470 untested}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with Codec CX20561 (T400)}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel e1000e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Wifi Link 5100 (AGN) half height card with FRU 43Y6493 or 5300 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 20v lenovo plug - non-free firmware required iwlwifi |- | <!--Name-->T400s || <!--Chipset-->i || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VSEA for Intel 4500MHD works limited 2d no 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with CX20585}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel e1000e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Wifi Link 5100 (AGN) half height card with FRU 43Y6493 or 5300 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit non-free firmware required iwlwifi |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo T500 T510 || <!--Chipset-->i || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA for switchable Intel / AMD HD 3640}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|Intel HD Audio with a CX20561 (t500) and CX20585 (T510) codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or Lenovo branded unit Atheros AR5007EG AR5BHB63 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit |- | <!--Name-->X200 ODM Wistron [http://itgen.blogspot.co.uk/2008/12/installing-arch-linux-on-lenovo.html X200s] and x200t tablet model without [http://fsfe.soup.io/post/590865884/the-unconventionals-blog-English-Flashing-Libreboot-on Risky flash of the Libreboot BIOS] || <!--Chipset-->GM45 GS45 with slow Celeron, SU or faster SL Core 2 Duos CPUs || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe||Intel GMA 4500 MHD 2D but slow software 3D tunnel 10 gearbox 8 tests}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel HD Audio with Conexant CX20561 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{{Yes|USB 2.0 USB SD card reads and writes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82567LM Gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel Pro 5100 5150 5300 5350 AGN due to whitelist prevention bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.1 || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit 12.1" CCFL (webcam version) or LED backlit (no webcam). no support for 54mm express cards or Authentec 2810 fingerprint reader - thinkpoint only no trackpad - thinklight - |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo T410 T410s T410si || <!--Chipset-->qm57 with i5 m || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use vesa Intel 5700MHD (Ironlake) core processor igp with optional Nvidia Quadro NVS 3100M}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio Conexant CX20585 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82577lm gigabit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel n 6200 or Atheros AR9280 AR5BHB92 half size minipcie detected bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2 xmas || <!--Comments-->2009 64bit battery life much lower with Nvidia graphics version - no support firewire ricoh r5c832 - ricoh sd card - series 5 3400 |- | <!--Name-->X201 X201s x201t || <!--Chipset-->QM57 Core i3 370m, i5 M520 2.4GHz or i7 620LM 2.0GHz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|vesa 2d on Intel GMA HD}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel HD with [https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=94.0 Conexant 20585] codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2010 X201 arrandale power consumption limits battery life to 3-4 hours for 48Whr though to 6 on 72Whr - 12.5" WXGA |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->T420 type 4180 4236 t420s T520 4239 L520 || <!--Chipset-->i5 2540, 2520 or i7 2860QM 2620 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS but not AHCI}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 136 x 768 - Intel HD 3000 with optional NVS 4200M Nvidia optimus or Radeon HD 565v }} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio playback ear phones only with Conexant CX20672 codec - AHI 6.27}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO 1000 82579LM}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek 1x1, Intel Ultimate-N 6205 6250 2x2 6300 3x3 all bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2.2 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit add noacpi to grub boot options - screen 1600x900 or 1366x768 - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad W520 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 3000 with nvidia quadro 1000m 2000m}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel Hd with CX 20585 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82579 Lm}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6000s}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit optimus issues with Nvidia Intel hybrids unless bumblebee switching - 15.6" TFT display with 1366x768 (HD), 1600x900 (HD+) or 1920x1080 (FHD) resolution with LED backlight |- | <!--Name-->X220 x220t || <!--Chipset-->QM67 express, dual i5 2520M or i7 dual 2620M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE in BIOS but not AHCI}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D 1024 x 768 for Intel HD Graphics 3000}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Intel HD playback with Conexant 20672 codec ear phones and speaker - AHI 6.27 6.34}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel 82579LM}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 Wi-Fi bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3, Aros One USB 1.6 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit possible - uses slimmer 7 mm storage sata devices - NEC USB 3.0 on i7's no support - unwanted trackpad gestures when palm rests on it - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots - external battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X120e, x121e Quanta FL8A DAFL8AMB8D0 Rev D || <!--Chipset-->Hudson M1 with slow AMD E350 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->yes || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA ATI 0x9802}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ATI SBx00 Azalia HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->USB 2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8169 RTL8111 || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Broadcom 0x0576 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit 11.6 inch screen - 1 inch think - chiclet keyboard |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad S205 G575 G585, Edge 11 E325 || <!--Chipset-->Slow E-350 later E-450 with A75 or AMD Athlon II Neo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA HD6310}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - removeable and plug in battery - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad S206 || <!--Chipset-->AMD E300 1.3GHZ Dual || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD Audio with CX20672 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|3.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom 10/100 || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6" and integrated battery - Conexant® |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo x130e or x131e edu || <!--Chipset-->Slow AMD E-300 or E-450 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon HD 6310 or 6320 }} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio Realtek ALC269VC / ALC3202 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|USB 30 and USB 20}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111 RTL8168B || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8188CE or Broadcom BCM43228 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - rubber edged bumper for K12 education market - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad Edge E135 E335 || <!--Chipset-->amd dual E-300, E2-1800 or E2-2000 slow atom like A68M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|SATA 3.0Gb/s 2.5" wide 7mm high}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA radeon 6310 or 7340 vga or hdmi}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HDAudio with Realtek ALC3202 codec}} || <!--USB-->2 usb3, 1 powered usb2 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 8111f}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek WLAN whitelist bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 11.6 inch to 13.3in 1366x768 - Acrylonitrile-Butadiene-Styrene (ABS) plastic case - external battery - 20v 65w lenovo barrel ac - 2 ddr3 sodimm 8Gb max - |- | <!--Name-->x140e E145 || <!--Chipset-->E1 2500 dual or A4 5000 apu quad BGA769 (FT3) || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon 8260 or 8330}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Realtek ALC269VC aka ALC3202 codec}} || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111F or Broadcom || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8188CE 11b/g/n or FRU Intel version}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit 11.6" 1366x768, non-glare and Broadcom bluetooth - education student market rugged model - both CPUs soldered - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad Edge E525 E535 LENOVO IDEAPAD Z575 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-3420M A8-3500M later A8-4500M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD 6620G later 7640G}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Conexant codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|USB2 but not usb3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 Realtek 8111}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 15.6in 1368 x 768 matt - 65W 20v lenovo round psu - thick desktop replacement - ThinkPad Edge E520 E520S E525 E530 E545 E535 E530C Laptop Keyboard swap - |- | <!--Name-->T430 t430i T530 || <!--Chipset-->ivy bridge i5 3320 3230m on Intel QM77 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 1366 x 768 for Intel HD 4000 with optional Nvidia 5400M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with Realtek ALC3202 aka ALC269VC codec playback ear head phones - HDA 6.27}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2 ports and usb2.0 devices thru usb 3.0 ports}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel e1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or Atheros AR9285 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit fan noise and chiclet keyboard, synaptics trackpad 06CB:CE2D 06CB:7F28 - HD+ 1600x900 or 768p - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad L430 L530 || <!--Chipset-->Intel HM series 7 chipset i5 3210M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 4000}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with Realtek ALC269VC codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8169 rtl810x || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel 6205 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit alps trackpad - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad W530 || <!--Chipset-->Intel HM series 7 chipset i5 3210M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 4000 with Nvidia GK107GLM Quadro K2000M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with Realtek ALC3202 ALC269VC codec }} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 82579LM || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6300 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - ricoh sdxc slot - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X230 x230t || <!--Chipset-->Intel QM67 express i5 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD with ALC269 aka ALC3202}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|I}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - 12.2 in 1366 x 768 - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots - external battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad T440 t440s t440p T540 L440 L540 || <!--Chipset-->intel haswell 8 series Core i3 to i7 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA - Intel 4600 or Nvidia}} || <!--Audio-->Intel HD with Realtek ALC3232 alc269 codec or ALC292 || <!--USB-->2 usb 3.0 and 2 usb 2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel AC 7260 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 14 and 15" models with glitchy trackpad and no physical buttons - IPS options available - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components or 4 variants of key caps - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad X240 x240t ultrabook TN (20AL0081GE), HD IPS display without touch (20AL007NGE) and touch (20AL0076GE) but all 65% sRGB || <!--Chipset-->haswell i7-4600U i5 4200U 4210U 4300U i3-4100U - two batteries, one internal 3cell 45N1110 (45N1111) or 45N1112 (FRU 45N1113) and external 3 / 6cell 45N1126 (FRU 45N1127) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in 7mm sata (torq t7), m.2 2242 in WWAN slot (m and b key NGFF Sata) || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for Intel 4400 for vga or mini-dp}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 0x8086 0x0a0c 0x9c20 with Realtek ALC3232 aka ALC292 0x10ec 0x0292}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel® 82577LM Gigabit (Hanksville) }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel 7260n I218-V or I218-LM bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 12.2in 1366 x 768 or 1080p - 1 ddr3l sodimm slot - no keyboard spill drainage and at least 2 variants of key caps - lenovo rectangle pwr ac - TPM 1.2 - Bluetooth 4.0 no support - large touchpad with integrated but no physical buttons - bottom panel loosening 8 retained screws - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad T450 T450s t450p T550 L550 || <!--Chipset-->Intel i5 4300U i3 5010U i5 5200U 5300U i7 5500U 5600U soldered || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel HD 5500 5600 with optional nvidia 940M}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD Audio with ALC3232 codec Realtek ALC3232 0x10ec 0x0292}} || <!--USB-->{{no|3 USB 3.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel Wireless AC 7265 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit 14" 1366 x 768, 1600 x 900 or IPS 1920x1080 - Broadwell - keyboard swap requires removal of all components and key cap versions - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad x250 x250t || <!--Chipset-->i3 5010U i5 5200U 5300U i7 5600U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|2.5in 7mm or m.2 2242 sata (m and b key)}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Intel}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Realtek ALC3232 codec / Intel HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{no|up to 3 USB 3.0 partly boots from usb but stops waiting for usb}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel I218 extension port}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel AC 7265 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.0 USB || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - 1366 x 768, 1920 × 1080 12.5" screen - Fn and F1 for setup bios - F12 boot options - 1 ddr3l sodimm slot - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkpad E540 || <!--Chipset-->Intel || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2D for Intel gfx}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HDAudio with Conexant CX20751-21Z codec}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB2 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 8111gus}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel Wireless-N 7260 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 15.6in 1376 x 786 - plastic construction - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad Edge E545 * key cap swap with E440 E531 E540 L440 L450 T431S T440S T440P T540 * Keyboard swap L540 T540p W540 Edge E531 E540 W541 T550 W550S L560 P50S T560 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Socket FS1r2 A6-5350M (2c2t) or A8-4500M, A8-5550M, A10-5750M (4c4t) with A76M FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in 9.5mm - enter UEFI bios with Enter or ESC, config section, sata into compatibility and security, secure boot disabled - mini sata DVD burner PLSD DS8A9SH || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD 7640G, 8450G, 8550G, 8650G ?? Islands}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|VOID 6.3 for HDAudio 8086:1c20 Conexant CX20590 Analog 0x14f1 0x506e, CX20671 codec 0x14f1 0x5069, or audio over Trinity HDMI}} || <!--USB-->{{maybe|boots pen drives from yellow usb port but not from blue USB3 ones}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 1GbE 8111F}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM43142 bios locked}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.3 USB with noacpi added to end of grub2 boot line but no further boot for usb3 socket/stick || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit SSE 4.1 and AVX - 15.6in 1366 x 768 matt - 20v 65w 90w round lenovo plug psu - 2 DDR3 SODIMM slots stacked up to 16GB Max - external 6 Cell Li-Ion Battery 48Wh - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery in wifi area jp1202 - amd v(tm) virtualization not working - |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo G505s || <!--Chipset-->AMD A8 5550M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD 8550M islands chipset}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Qualcomm Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit 15.6" - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad Flex 15D 20334 || <!--Chipset-->AMD a6 5200, e1 2100, || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Radeon R3 southern islands chipset}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 8169 rtl810x}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k whitelist for wifi swap}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo B50-45, G50-45 80E3 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A8-6410 (2c), A6-6400 (2c), AMD A8 (4c), AMD A4-6300 (2c), AMD E2-6200 (2c), AMD E1-6050 (2c) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|I}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit 15.6" 1366 x 768 - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad E455 E555 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-7000 A8-7100 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R5 }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Conexant® CX20751 codec 0x14f1 0x510f}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111GUS || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8723BE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - 14 768p or up to 15.6in 1080p - 2 DDR3L slots max 16G - no TPM - keyboard swap but Lenovo E550 E550C E555 E560 E560C E565 range has at least 2 different key cap variants - 2pin CR2032 CMOS battery - |- | <!--Name-->Z40-75 Z50-75 || <!--Chipset-->A10-7300 4c 4t || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R6 6CUs}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in 1366 x 768 - heavy - external battery - slim box lenovo ac - dvdrw - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkPad E465 E565 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-8500P 8600P A8-8700P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Conexant® CX11852 codec 0x14f1 0x5}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6" 1366 x 768 to 1080p IPS - Polycarbonate, ABS Plastic shell casing - internal battery - |- |<!--Name-->AMD platform codes *Beema: ABM, *Carizzo-L: ACL, *Carizzo: ACZ, *Godavari: AGR, *Kaveri: AKV, *Stoney Ridge: ASR, *Stoney Ridge: AST (NB), || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> *Summit Ridge: ASU, *Bristol Ridge-L: ABL, *Bristol Ridge: ABR, *Raven Ridge: ARR, *Picasso: API |- | <!--Name-->LENOVO IDEAPAD 500-15ACZ || <!--Chipset-->AMD 4c A10-8700P A8-8600P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5 M.2 || <!--Gfx-->VESA for Radeon R5 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek Atheros Broadcom}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bits - 15.6" 768p to 1080p - 2 ddr3l slots max 16gb - 45w rectangle psu - |- | <!--Name-->lenovo yoga 510-14ast 8059, || <!--Chipset-->A6-9210 A9-9410 and Intel Xeon E3-1200 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon R4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 45w 20v round barrel 4.0 * 1.7mm fits Yoga 310 510 520 710 - Harman Audio - keyboard swap problematic - |- | <!--Name-->V110-14AST V110-15AST V110 (15") || <!--Chipset-->AMD E1-9000, A6-9210 to A9-9410 all dual core || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 2.5in sata most 7mm some 9.5mm || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD R2, R3, R5 or R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 15.6in mostly 768p to 1080p 220 nits - 20v 45W or 65W lenovo slim rectangle end ac - keyboard swap hard - integrated 24WHr battery - 4gb ddr4 ram soldered and 1 2133Mhz ddr4 slot max 12Gb - abs plastic - |- |<!--Name--> *ThinkPad A275 12in (1 ddr4 1866MHz sodimm) *Thinkpad A475 14in (2 ddr4 1866MHz sodimm) - both internal (main) and external (secondary) battery || <!--Chipset-->A10-8730B A10-9700B 2.500Ghz later A12-8830B A12-9800B all 4c4t (AVX2 on 9000s) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|Sata3 port for 7mm 2.5in ssd hdd with mbr and not gpt, setup in other machines - secure boot disabled, bios startup boot set to legacy then uefi - WWAN slot cannot use M.2 2242 sata with M and B key}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD R5 or R7}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 0x1022, 0x157a 6.34 ahi with ALC3268 codec 0x10ec, 0x0298 aka ALC298 - VOID even with QUERY / QUERYD added}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 starts to boot pendrives but stops, usb mouse not detected}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 RTL8111EPV, shell pinging google.com works but apps like OWB start when copied to RAM: and run from there}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8822BE WLAN whitelist locked cannot swap}} || <!--Test Distro-->{{No|AROSOne USB 1.8 with noacpi noapic noioapic added to grub2 boot line then hanging on bootable media (kitty eyes)}} || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit 12 or 14in 1366 x 768 poor screen - 45W or 65w lenovo rectangle ac adapter - F1 enter bios and F12 boot order - 6 retained screws and snap on base - keyboard swap not easy - 2100 error message no solution except using only efi/gpt bios option - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E475 E575 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9500b A10-9600P || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R6}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Conexant CX11852 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek R8111GUS || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 15.6" 1366 x 768 to 1080p IPS - Polycarbonate, ABS Plastic shell casing - internal battery - two DDR4 SO-DIMM sockets clocks down with 1866MHz DDR4 memory controller - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Ideapad S145-14AST S145-15AST || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9225, A9-9425, A10-9600P 7th Gen, AMD A12-9720P Mobo 5B20P11110 NMB341 Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon 8670A 8670M 8690M GCN 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A|N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 or Realtek RTL8821CE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 14in or 15.6" 768p or 1080p - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Ideapad V145-14AST V145-15AST, 81mt, Ideapad 310, Ideapad 320-15ABR, Ideapad 330-14AST 330-15AST 330-17AST || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-9225, A9-9425 (2c2t), A10-9600P 7th Gen, AMD A12-9720P Mobo 5B20P11110 NMB341 Bristol Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Radeon 8670A 8670M 8690M GCN 3}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with ALC236 codec, }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|rtl8169 10/100 only}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 or Realtek RTL8821CE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2017 64bit AVX2 - 14in or 15.6" 768p or 1080p - 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - 45w 6w slim ac adapter - keyboard swap problematic - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo V330-14ARR 81B1, Ideapad 330s 15ARR, || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R3 2200U, 2300U or R5 2500U Raven Ridge || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3, 6 or 8 up to 1Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|Realtek 1GbE but not on 330s}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14" 20mm thick 1.8kg - 20v 2.25a 45w ac round barrel - chiclet keyboard - 4Gb soldered and 1 ddr4 sodimm - TPM 2.0 in bios - battery internal about 30whr - 4GB soldered - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad Edge E485 E585 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R3 2300U R5 2500U R7 2700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme maybe 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Vega 3, 8 or 10}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with CX11852 codec }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 rtl8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in or 15.6in 768p or 1080p - USB-C 20V 2.25A 3.25A avoid knocking charging port as damages easily - 2 ddr4 sodimm slot max 2400Mhz 32GB - internal battery only - TPM 2.0 software - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad A285 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen PRO 3 2200U 5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata port and m.2 sata ngff port || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC ALC3287 codec aka ALC257 }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Mini-Ethernet/Docking}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Qualcomm - WLAN whitelist no more??}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 12.5in 1080p - avoid usb-c port being lifted/moved whilst in use as damages laptop easily - internal and external battery - soldered ram 8gb or 16gb - WWAN whitelist - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad A485 bios setting [https://github.com/PSPReverse/PSPTool AMD PSP Platform Security Processor Key] || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen PRO 5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->sata port and m.2 sata ngff port || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC ALC3287 codec aka ALC 257 }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUL}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Qualcomm - WLAN whitelist no more??}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in 768p, 1080p or 1440p - avoid usb-c port being lifted/moved whilst in use as damages laptop easily - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots max 32gb - internal and external battery - WWAN whitelist - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Yoga 530-14ARR 81H9 || <!--Chipset-->R5 2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 14in 1080p - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo V14-ADA, V15-ADA 82C700E4UK || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 3050U, 3150U, 3250U, Ryzen 5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1x 2.5" HDD + 1x M.2 SSD NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Qualcomm}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14 or 15.6in - internal battery - 4GB soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - keyboard swap problematic - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkpad E Edge E495 20NE, Edge E595, || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 3200U r5 3500U, R7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 nvme maybe 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Vega 3, 8 or 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with synaptic formerly conexant CX11880 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14in or 15.6in 768p or 1080p - ddr4 soldered with 1 dimm slot - USB-C charger issue was fixed with a BIOS update, if not the charger shorts the motherboard - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo v155-15api 81V5 V155 (15" AMD) budget all plastic build || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon 300U, Ryzen 3 3200U r5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 nvme and usually 2.5in 7mm sata - install on mbr not gpt 2.5in in another compatible machine - mini sata dvd/cd da-8aesh11b || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D 1920x1080, 1280x1024, 800x600 work for Vega 3 or 8 with up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken but hdmi 1.4b no output}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio add 0x1022, 0x15E3 with Realtek ALC257 codec 0x10ec, 0x0257 - no issues with 32bit}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 not detected with no usb-c ports}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS works well with 32bit}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.8 USB 32bit and deadwoods native x64 iso with grub line ATA=32bit noacpi || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 768p or 1080p 200nits tn panel - 4Gb ddr4 2400MHz soldered with 1 dimm slot max 20Gb - round ac 20V 65W psu 4.0mm x 1.7mm - MS created a new protocol, HID over I2C so [https://askubuntu.com/questions/1033033/elantech-touchpad-does-not-work-i2c-hid elantech i2c-hid i2c PS2 hybrid trackpad] 04F3:3140 touchpad not functioning - internal sunwoda battery L18D3PF1 35Whr but also L18L3PF1 L18C3PF2 - Fn+F2 to enter bios and F12 boot order - no sd card slot - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad C340-13AP1, IdeaPad S340-14API C340-14API || <!--Chipset-->R3 3200U, R5 3500U, R7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 3, 8, 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 13in convertible or 14" laptop - 4GB soldered - usb-c charging care needed - keyboard swap problematic - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo IdeaPad L340-15API 81LW001CUS L340-17API untested || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon 300U, Ryzen 3 3200U r5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 M.2 nvme and usually 2.5in sata - install on mbr not gpt 2.5in in another compatible machine - mini sata dvd/cd da-8aesh11b || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for Vega 3 or 8 with up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken - hdmi 1.4b}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio add 0x1022, 0x15E3 with Realtek ALC236 0x10ec, 0x0236}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3 not detected}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek or Intel}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.8 USB || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 15.6in 768p or 1080p 200nits - 4Gb ddr4 2400MHz soldered with 1 dimm slot max 20Gb - round ac 20V 65W psu 4.0mm x 1.7mm - elan trackpad not functioning - internal battery - Return or F1 to enter bios and F12 boot order - no sd card slot - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad S540-14API, Ideapad S145-14API, S145-15API || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3020e to 300U, 5 3500U, 7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme, some may have 1 2.5in space || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega 3, 8 or 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|3.1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|RTL8822BE AC (1×1)}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - keyboard swap problematic - sd card slot - no cd dvd - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot 2400Mhz - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad T295 T495 T495s X395 || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 3300U, R5 Pro 3500U or R7 3700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 NVMe up to 2280 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 6, 8 or 10 up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111EPV not on slim T495s}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek RTL8822BE or Intel AC 9260}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 14in 768p but mostly FHD 1080p 250 nits - internal battery - ram 8gb or 16gb 2400Mhz soldered with 1 ddr4 slot on T495 only - TPM 2.0 - usb-c charging avoid knock whilst in use - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 Gen2, E15 Gen 2 (AMD) 20T8, - lenovo has a mobile phone PC Diagnostic App for error/beep codes || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 4300U, 5 4500U, 7 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2 m.2 nvme, 1 2242 and 1 2280 || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D for AMD Radeon up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 15.6in 1080p 220 nits - TPM 2.0 - usb-c charging of internal 45Whr battery - 4gb ddr4 3200Mhz soldered and 1 ddr4 sodimm slot max 20Gb - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkPad T14, Lenovo L14 Gen 1, L15 Gen 1, ThinkPad P14s Gen 1 (AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 4300u, 5 4500U, Ryzen 5 Pro 4650U, Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA R5 }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111EPV (DASH models) or RTL8111HN}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - USB-C charger avoid moving whilst in use - 14" or 15" 1080p - keyboard swap problematic - 8gb or 16gb 3200MHz soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - sd card slot - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkPad X13 Gen1 AMD, || <!--Chipset-->AMD RYZEN 3 4450U, 5 4650U or 7 4750U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->One drive, up to 512GB M.2 2242 SSD or 1TB M.2 2280 SSD NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA Radeon up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{unk| but USB-C ports can fail}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Realtek RTL8111EPV, mini RJ-45 to RJ-45 via optional ThinkPad Ethernet Extension Adapter Gen 2}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek Wi-Fi 6 RTL8852AE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 13.3" HD 1366x768 to 1080p - USB-C port care needed as damages easily - Memory soldered to systemboard, no slots, dual-channel DDR4-3200 - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkBook 14 G2, 15 G2 Are ITL || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 4500u, 7 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->14in has 2 m.2 nvme but 15in has 1 nvme and might have 2.5in metal sata caddy || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in or 15in 1080p - usb-c charging powered - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot 3200mhz - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad 5 14ARE05 (81YM) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 3 4300U (4c4t), 5 4500u (6c6t) 4600U (6c12t), 7 4700u (8c16t) on AMD Promontory Bixby FCH || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1x M.2 2242 slot and may have 1x M.2 2280 NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA Vega 6 hdmi up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel ax200 wifi 6}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit 14inch 768p or 1080p - round lenovo ac - 4gb, 8gb, or 16gb ddr4 3200Mhz ram soldered non upgradable - keyboard swap problematic - integrated battery - elan touchpad? - |- |<!--Name-->Ideapad Flex 5 81X2 || <!--Chipset-->AMD R5 4500u, R7 4800U, R3 5300 R5 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->M.2 NVMe ssd || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA AMD Vega up to 2Gb of soldered ram memory taken}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC? codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3.1 gen 1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|realtek ac wifi}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit abs plastic case 14in convertible 1080p touch low nits - 65w usb-c psu ac - possible wacom esr note taking pen supplied - ram soldered DDR4 - keyboard swap problematic - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo ThinkBook 14 G3, 15 G3 ACL || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 14in or 15in 1080p - usb-c charging powered - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 G3, E15 Gen 3 (AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 5300U 5500U 5650U 5700U 5800U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->up to 2 m.2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111GUS}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|realtek or intel }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2021 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - - usb-c charging issues lenovo has a mobile phone PC Diagnostic App for error/beep codes - keyboard swap problematic - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 3200Mhz sodimm slot - |- |<!--Name-->V15 G2 ALC 82KD || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 3 5300U, 5 5500U, 7 5700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme 2280 with some having 1 2.5in sata || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H-CG}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 15.6" FHD 1080p - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 sodimm slot - 65w round ac adaptor - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L15 Gen 2 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 5000 series AMD Ryzen 3 5400U (4c8t), 5 5600U, 5 5650U (6c12t), 7 PRO 5850U (8c16t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with Realtek® ALC3287}} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 RTL8111EPV (DASH models) or RTL8111HN}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 15.6in 768p or 1080p - usb-c charging - 4gb soldered with 1 ddr4 3200Mhz sodimm slot - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 Gen 4, E15 Gen 4 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 3 5425u, 5 5625U, 7 5825u || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 (14") or 2 (15") nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6in 1080p - usb-c charging - 4gb or 8gb soldered with 1 ddr4 3200Mhz sodimm slot - L19M3PDA 45Whr battery - U24 TPS65994 and QB6 QB5 mosfet issues - |- |<!--Name-->V15 G3 ALC || <!--Chipset-->Ryzen 5 6500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15"FHD - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L15 Gen 3 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 6000 series || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit- 15.6in 1080p - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo Yoga 7 14ARB7 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5, 6600U, 7 6800U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->1 nvme || <!--Gfx-->AMD 660M or 680M || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDaudio with ALC3306 aka alc287 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{No| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 14in 1800p ips 300 nits - usb-c ac charging 71whr integrated battery - sd card slot - digital pen input - 8gb, 6gb or 32gb soldered ddr5 ram - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad E14 g5, E15 Gen 5 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7000 series 7 7730U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB4 thunderbolt}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit- 15.6in 1080p - |- |<!--Name-->Thinkbook 14 G6 ABP IRL || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 7530U 7730U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|rtl8169 untested}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 14in 1200p or 1440p - 100W USB-C AC power adapter - |- |<!--Name-->IdeaPad Slim 5 Light 14ABR8 Laptop || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 3 7330U (4c8t) 5 7530U (6c12t) 7 7730U (8c16t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2 m.2 nvme slot - 1 2242, 1 2280 || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->HDaudio with Realtek® ALC3287 codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 14in 1080p - 8Gb or 16Gb soldered ram - usb-c charging only - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad X13 Gen 4 (13" AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7480U 7040U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{unk| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 - avoid usb-c port damage - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L15 Gen 4 (15" AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7480U 7040U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{unk| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - |- |<!--Name-->Lenovo V15 G4 AMN || <!--Chipset-->AMD AMD Athlon™ Gold 7220U (2c4t), AMD Athlon™ Silver 7120U (2c2t), AMD Ryzen™ 3 7320U (4c8t), AMD Ryzen™ 5 7520U (4c8t) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d for AMD 610M HDMI® and USB-C}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDaudio with ALC3287 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Gigabit Ethernet, 1x RJ-45 || <!--Wireless-->{{no|wifi 6}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit - 15.6" FHD (1920x1080) - 8 or 16Gb soldered - 65W round tip (3-pin) AC adapter or USB-C - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad e14 G6, e15 Gen 6 (15″, AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 7000 series AMD Ryzen™ 7 7735HS || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D for AMD Radeon || <!--Audio-->{{no|HDAudio codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe| }} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2023 64bit- 15.6in 1080p - |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad L16 (16" AMD), ThinkPad T14 Gen 5 (14" AMD) || <!--Chipset-->AMD 8000 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->VESA 2D || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with codec}} || <!--USB-->{{no|USB4}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no| }} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |<!--Name-->ThinkPad || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Samsung==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="2%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->NP-Q1 Q1 || <!--Chipset-->Celeron-M 353 ULV 600Mhz || <!--IDE-->{{Yes|1.8" SFF HDD 20 / 60 GB }} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 915 2D and 3D opengl1 tunnel 95 gearbox 68}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec - head phones only}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} || <!--Wireless-->{{Yes|Atheros 5006EX}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit old style tablet UltraMobile PC UMPC - Wacom serial resistive pen or finger no support - 1 sodimm ddr2 max 1Gb - LCD 7" WVGA (800 x 480) - CompactFlash port Type II - |- | <!--Name-->NP Q1U Ultra Mobile PC UMPC Q1F NP-Q1-F000 || <!--Chipset-->Intel A100 600 / A110 Stealey 800 MHz CPU || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|GMA 950 2D and 3D opengl1}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio 1986}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Atheros 5006EX}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit 1024×600 - sd card slot - |- | <!--Name-->NP P500 family P500Y || <!--Chipset-->AMD with SB600 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA Ati x1250}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| Audio with codec }} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8039 yukon}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|Atheros G}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->64bit possible - 15.4 tft display - cheap plastic okay build - 19v propriety end - |- | <!--Name-->R505 R510 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros G || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->R520 R522 R610H R620 || <!--Chipset-->Intel Mobile Core i3 Intel PM45 82801M ICH9-M|| <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 (RV730) || <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC272 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Marvell Yukon 88E8057 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR5007EG || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2010 64 bit possible |- | NP-R530 || || {{N/A}} || {{partial|IDE mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{partial|HD Audio playback}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{no|Marvell}} || {{no|Atheros AR9285}} || Icaros 1.5.2 || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Samsung R730 17.3 Essential Notebook NP-R730-JA02UK, NP-R730-JA01SE, R730-JT06 || <!--Chipset-->Intel HM55 Dual Core T4300 i3-370M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA for Intel 4500MHD and GeForce G 310M with 1 VGA, 1 HDMI}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio ALC??? codec Realtek}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell Yukon 88E8059 PCI-E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom, Intel or Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro-->Deadwoods ISO 2023-11 || <!--Comments-->2010 64bit - 17.3in HD 1280 x 720 pixels low contrast or some 1600x900 - 2 DDR3 sodimm slots - 2.84 kg 6.26 lbs - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-305U1A-A01DE-Subnotebook.68246.0.html Series 3 Samsung 305u1a] || <!--Chipset-->AMD Zacate E350 or E450 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon 6320 || <!--Audio-->ALC ACL 269 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom 4313 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit |- | <!--Name-->NP-RV415 NP-RV515 || <!--Chipset-->E350 or E450 plus A50M chipset || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon HD 6470 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio Realtek || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111 8168B || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9285 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit slow - |- | <!--Name-->Series 5 NP535U3C || <!--Chipset-->A6-4455M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in || <!--Gfx-->radeon || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit slow - 13.3in 1368 x 768 - plastic build - 65w 19v psu - |- | <!--Name-->series 3 NP355V5C || <!--Chipset-->A6-4400M, A8-4500M, A10-4600M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2.5in || <!--Gfx-->7640M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit - 15.4in 1368 x 768 - plastic build - 65w 19v psu - |- | <!--Name-->Samsung ATIV Book 9 Lite NP905S3G || <!--Chipset-->AMD A6-1450 quad 1GHz Temash atom like || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->128gb || <!--Gfx-->AMD 8250 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek rtl8169 but only with mini LAN AA-AE2N12B Ethernet Adapter RJ45 dongle}} || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9565 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 13.3 TN glossy 1366 x 768 200nits 60% srgb - plastic case - 26W battery built in with 4hr life - 19V 2.1A 3.0*1.0mm psu - 1 ddr3l slot max 4gb - 720p webcam - mini hdmi out - 1w speakers - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Toshiba==== [[#top|...to the top]] Order of Build Quality (Lowest to highest) <pre > Equium Satellite (Pro) Libretto Portege Tecra </pre > {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Tecra 8100 8200 9000 || 440BX || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|S3 Savage MX 3D (VESA only)}} || {{no|Yamaha DS-XG ymf744 ymf-754}} || {{yes|USB1.1 only}} || {{N/A}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.5 || little support |- | <!--Name-->Tecra 9100 || <!--Chipset-->810 || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|S3 Savage IX}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|ymf754}} || <!--USB-->USB 1.1 || <!--Ethernet-->eeee pro100 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->PSU Adapter For Toshiba Tecra 9000 9100 A1 A10 A11 A3 A3X A4 A5 A7 M1 M2 M3 M4 M5 M7 M9 R10 S1 series 75 Watt 15V 5A |- | [http://tuxmobil.org/toshiba_sp4600.html Satellite Pro 4600] || i810 || IDE || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Trident Cyber Blade XP (VESA only)}} || {{no|YAMAHA DS-XG AC97 ymf754}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel e100}} || {{no|Agere (internal PCMCIA)}} || || little support |- | Satellite 2805 S603 || Intel 815 || {{yes|IDE}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|nVidia GeForce2 Go}} || {{no|Yamaha Corp YMF 754}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO/100}} || {{dunno}} || || little support |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A10 S167 S1291 - A15 A20 A25 || <!--Chipset-->P4M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GM or Radeon || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139 || <!--Wireless-->{{Maybe|Intel 2100, Agere or Atheros PA3399U 1MPC minipci}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->a few models came with antenna leads |- | Satellite [http://eu.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/jsp/SUPPORTSECTION/discontinuedProductPage.do?service=EU&com.broadvision.session.new=Yes&PRODUCT_ID=76230 A30-714] || P4-M / 82845 i845 || {{yes|82801}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes}} || {{yes|RTL8139}} || {{N/A}} || Icaros 1.2.4 || nice laptop, drawbacks: heavy, really hot (P4-3.06 GHz!!) - A30 (EU) A33 (Australian) A35 (USA) - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A40 A45 || <!--Chipset-->P4M or Celeron M with Intel 845 865 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GME or Radeon 7000 Mobility || <!--Audio-->AC97 Realtek || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5002G 5004G - PA3299U mini pci || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - A40 S161 A40-S1611 A40-2701, A45-S120 A45-S1201 S130 S1301 S1501 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite a50 A55 a60-s156 Equium A60 PSA67E A65 || <!--Chipset-->P4M or Celeron M with Intel 845 865 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GME or Radeon 7000 Mobility || <!--Audio-->AC97 Realtek || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5002G 5004G - PA3299U mini-pci || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A70 A75-S206 A80 A85-S107 || <!--Chipset-->P4M or Celeron-M with Intel 845 865 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 852GME or Radeon 7000 Mobility || <!--Audio-->AC97 Realtek || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5002G 5004G - PA3299U mini-pci || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5.1 || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - |- | Toshiba Satellite Pro M30 || intel 855 || {{yes|boots with ATA=nodma option}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{yes|Intel PRO/100 VE}} || {{dunno}} || Icaros 1.5 || nice laptop with some support |- | <!--Name-->Portege M300 - M200 tablet || <!--Chipset-->855GM with 1.2GHz Pentium M 753 || <!--IDE-->{{yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2d only - tablet with nvidia 5200 go}} || <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 STAC 9750}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Intel PRO 100}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->little support |- | <!--Name-->Tecra M2 M2-S || <!--Chipset-->Intel 855P Pentium-M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->nvidia fx go5200 32mb or 64mb agp || <!--Audio-->AC97 1981B || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Intel Pro || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - PSU 15V 5A - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro L20 267 (PSL2YE PSL2XE) PSL25E L30 || <!--Chipset-->Celeron M 370 1.4 1.5GHz, 1.73Ghz with RC410M SB400 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA - Ati x200}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|[https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-490297-start-0.html ALC861]}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Boots usb sticks}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8139 Realtek 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros mini-pci should work maybe not working with ATi chipset or need to swap??}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit 14" pioneer dvd-rw - 19v |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L30 PSL30E L33 PSL33E || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 800 or ATi RC410 x200 || <!--Audio-->AC97 AD1981B or HD Audio ALC861 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros or Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->L30 PSL30L 101 PSL33E 113 115 134 00M019 - |- | Satellite Pro M40 313 psm44e || AMD with Ati || {{yes|boots with ATA=nodma}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|VESA}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{yes|}} || {{maybe|atheros askey ar5bmb5 mini pci}} || || 2005 32bit - nice laptop with some support |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L40 PSL40E PSL40L, PSL43E || <!--Chipset-->945GM with U7700 1.3GHz ULV || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945 || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD with AD1986A codec}} || <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR24xx Askey || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.3 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit only - - 12X 13G 139 14B 143 15J 19O - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L45 PSL40U S7409 S2416 || <!--Chipset-->945GM with Celeron M 440 1.86 GHz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945 || <!--Audio-->{{No|Intel HD with AD1986A codec}} || <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR24xx Askey || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.0.3 || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit only - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro A100 || <!--Chipset-->940G || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia G72M Quadro NVS 110M GeForce Go 7300 / Ati (PSAA3E)|| <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC861 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 100 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 swap with atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A110 159 (PSAB0), Equium A110 (PSAB2E), Satellite A110 233 (PSAB6), || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->ALC861 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8136 || <!--Wireless-->Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro A120 PSAC0 PSAC1 PSAC1E || <!--Chipset-->Core Solo GMA 950 to T2300 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 945 || <!--Audio-->ALC262 or AC97 AD1981B || <!--USB-->UHCI EHCI || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Atheros Ar5001 or Intel or Broadcom || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->15V 4A charger - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro A120 || <!--Chipset-->Core Duo ATi RS480 + SB450 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA - ATI RC410 Radeon Xpress 200M || <!--Audio-->ALC262 || <!--USB-->OCHI UHCI || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 or Atheros Ar5001 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->15v 5a proprietary charger needed |- | <!--Name-->Satelite A130 PSAD6U || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8101E || <!--Wireless-->Atheros or Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->ST1311 s1311 ST1312 S2276 S2386 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A135 S2686 (Compal LA 3391P) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8101E || <!--Wireless-->Atheros or Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->S2246 S2346 S2256 S4477 S4666 S4827 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite A200 PSAE1E (Inventec MW10M) || <!--Chipset-->Pentium M with 945GM Express || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}}|| <!--SATA--> {{Maybe|SATA}}|| <!--Gfx--> {{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D and 3D)}}|| <!--Audio--> {{Yes|HD Audio ALC862}}|| <!--USB--> {{Yes| }}|| <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|RTL8101E}}|| <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros 5000 - FN,F5 or FN,F8 or switch}} || <!--Test Distro--> AspireOS 1.8 || <!--Comments-->2006 Excellent 32 bit support! - Celeron M 520 1.6Ghz or Pentium® Core Duo T2130 1.86 GHz - make sure that your WLAN card is enabled, do this using the hardware switch and FN+F8 key combination |- | <!--Name--> A210, Satellite A215 AMD (Inventec 10A) S5808 || <!--Chipset--> Ati with SB690 || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}}|| <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|SATA}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA HD2600 Mobility M76}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC268 || <!--USB--> {{Yes| }}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8101E}}|| <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros 5000}}|| <!--Test Distro--> AspireOS 1.8 || <!--Comments-->A215-S7422 A215-S7472 A215-S4697 (USA) - |- | <!--Name--> [http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=62036 A215 S4757] || <!--Chipset--> Ati X1200 with SB600 || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}}|| <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|SATA}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> {{Yes| }}|| <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8101E}}|| <!--Wireless--> {{yes|Atheros 5000}}|| <!--Test Distro--> AspireOS 1.8 || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Tecra A10 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> {{Maybe|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|Intel GMA 4500M (2D)}} || <!--Audio--> {{Yes|HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> {{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO 1000}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel WiFi Link 5100}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->64 bit possible |- | <!--Name-->L35 - L40 PSL48E - L45 S7423 || <!--Chipset-->GL960 with Intel Celeron || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|X3100 some 2D but software 3d tunnel 9 gearbox 4}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC660 codec playback}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|REALTEK 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Realtek 8187b replace with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->1,73Ghz M 520 or M 540 or Dual T2310 (1.46 GHz) T2330 (1.6 GHz) - 14H 14N 15B 17H 17K 17R 17S 18Z - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite a300 - inventec potomac 10s pt10s A300D 21H || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio - Realtek || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8102E || <!--Wireless-->Atheros 5005 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->satellite L300D-224 PSLC8E PSLC9E, l305 (inventec ps10s) || <!--Chipset-->AMD M780 with Turion RM70 or QL-64 || <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} || <!--SATA--> {{yes|SATA}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|use VESA for Radeon 3100}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio with Realtek ALC268}} || <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet--> {{no|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros G XB63L or Intel or Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros Desktop Live 2.3 AROS One 2.3 || <!--Comments--> Wireless-handler crashing when using Atheros-Wireless-Card |- | <!--Name-->satellite l300-1bw PSLBDE-005005AR, L300-148 PSLB0E, l300-20D PSLB8E-06Q007EN, l300-294 L300-23L PSLB9E || <!--Chipset-->Intel GM45 + PGA478 socket Celeron 900, Pentium T1600, T2390, T3400 (Socket P) to Core2 Duo T6400 T6670 || <!--IDE--> {{unk|IDE}} || <!--SATA--> {{unk|SATA}} || <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|use VESA for Intel gma 4500M}} || <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio with Realtek ALC???}} || <!--USB--> {{unk|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet--> {{unk|rtl8169 Realtek 810xE}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 64-bit - new unfamiliar Bios called insyde H20 - |- | <!--Name-->satellite l350d || <!--Chipset-->AMD Athlon (tm) X2 QL-60 + RS780M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 3100 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8187b || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L450 12 13 14 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Sempron, 2.1GHz with AMD RS780M || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 3200 (based on HD 2400) || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8172 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->12X 13P 13X 14V PSLY6E00C006EN |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro L450 (Compal LA-5821P) 179 || <!--Chipset-->intel celeron 900 2.20 Ghz || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->intel 4500m || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101 /2 /6E PCI Express Gigabit || <!--Wireless-->RTL8191 SEvB || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->39.6cm (15.6”) Toshiba TruBrite® HD TFT High Brightness display with 16:9 aspect ratio internal resolution 1366 x 768 |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->L755D (E-350) L750D (E-450) || <!--Chipset-->AMD || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 6310 6320 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio conexant codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->Realtek || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satellite Pro SP C640 C660D-15X (PSC1YE) C670D- () || <!--Chipset-->AMD E350 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->6310G || <!--Audio-->HD Realtek ALC259 || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek || <!--Wireless-->Broadcom || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 zacate |- |<!--Name-->Toshiba Satellite C660D-19X || <!--Chipset-->AMD E-300 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ATi || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->r8169 rtl8101e || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8188 8192ce rtl8192ce || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->C70D-A C75D-A || <!--Chipset-->E1-1200 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->AMD HD8330 || <!--Audio-->HA Audio CX20751 11Z || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8162 alx}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Realtek 8188e}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Satelite Pro C40D-A C50D-A C55D-A || <!--Chipset-->Slow E1 2100 or faster A4 5000 kabini || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->8330 || <!--Audio-->HD Realtek ALC269Q || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|AR8162}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RTL8188EE}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Satelite S50D || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-5745M (4c4t), A8-5545M || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon 8550M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->REaltek GbE || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8188E || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - 15.6in 2.38kg and 24mm - |- | <!--Name-->Satelite C50DT-B-107 PSCN6E M50DT-A-210 || <!--Chipset-->AMD A8-6410 A6-5200 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon R3 R5 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->REaltek GbE || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8188E || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 15.6 Inch Touchscreen 1366 x 768 - |- | <!--Name-->Satellite L50D-C-13G || <!--Chipset-->AMD A10-8700P 6th Gen || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon R6 || <!--Audio-->HD || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->1GbE || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Sharp formerly 80% Toshiba Computers || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->dynabook formerly 20% Toshiba PC, Satellite Pro C40D C50D || <!--Chipset-->intel i? or AMD Ryzen || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit - 14in and 15.6in - ddr4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Misc==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Time 500 Packard Bell EasyOne 1450 1550 || <!--Chipset-->K6-3 500Mhz + VIA MVP4 vt82c686a || <!--IDE-->{{N/A|Issues}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA || <!--Audio-->{{No|VIA AC97 3058 with wolfson codec WM9703 WM9704 WM9707 WM9708 or WM9717}} || <!--USB-->via 3038 2 ports USB 1.1 untested || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro-->NB May 2013 || <!--Comments-->2001 32bit grub runs but stalls around [PCI] Everything OK |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Sony Vaio PCG FX201/FX202 FX210/FX215 FX401/FX402 FX404/FX405 972M, FX501/FX502 FX504/FX505, FX601/FX602, FX604/FX605 FXA53(US), FX701/FX702, FX704/FX705, FX801/FX802 FX804/FX805 || <!--Chipset-->[http://gaugusch.at/vaio/ FX] [http://tech.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/FX210/ Sony Yahoo Group] VIA KT133A KM133 Duron 800Mhz Athlon 1.3Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{partial|boot issue with 2013 kernel VIA [rev 06]}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{partial|ATI Rage Mobility Pro (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|VIA AC97 686b [rev 50] AD1881A Ear phone and Mic}} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|UHCI [rev 1a]}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8139}} || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Comments-->Nightly 1st March 2013 || <!--Comments-->booting usb pendrive from Plop Boot Loader floppy (no bios USB boot). Can freeze coz hardware issue or a ram slot problem - no support for iLink firewire VT8363/8365 pci - vt82c686b |- | <!--Name-->Sony Vaio PCG FX100 R505LE || <!--Chipset-->Intel i815 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Use VESA Intel 82815 CGC || <!--Audio-->Intel ICH AC97 with ADI AD1881A codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel e100 || <!--Wireless-->{{N/A}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->PCG-FX105 FX105K PCG-FX108 FX108K PCG-FX109 FX109K FX200 FX203/FX203K FX205 FX205K FX209 FX209K FX220 [http://juljas.net/linux/vaiofx240/ FX240] FX250 FX270 FX290 FX301 FX302 FX340 FX370 FX390 FX403 FX503 FX950 |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | Sony VAIO VGN X505VP || Pentium M ULV and Intel 855GM || {{yes}} || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|Intel 855 (VESA only)}} || {{yes|AC97}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|Intel PRO 100 VE}} || {{N/A}} || || 2004 32bit - 0.38 inches at its thinnest point - first laptop to feature a "chiclet" keyboard resemble Chiclets gum - |- | <!--Name-->Sony Z505LE Z505JE || <!--Chipset-->P3 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA-->n/a || <!--Gfx-->Rage Mobility M1 AGP mach64 || <!--Audio-->no Yamaha DS-XG PCI YMF744 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Intel 8255x based PCI e100 || <!--Wireless-->n/a || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->Panasonic Toughbook CF-18 || <!--Chipset-->Core || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|gma for i915}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 SigmaTel}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|usb2 }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL 8139C}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel swap for atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->Deadwoods' D02 test || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Panasonic Toughbook CF-29 CF-30 || <!--Chipset-->Core || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->use VESA || <!--Audio-->AC97 SigmaTel || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8139C || <!--Wireless-->Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2003 32bit |- | <!--Name-->MSI Microstar PR210 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use VESA ATi RS690M}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio through speaker / head phones but not hdmi}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8111 8169}} || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR242x AR542x aw-ge780 mini pci-e || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - ENE PCI based SD card with no bios boot option |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Advent 7106 EAA-88 || <!--Chipset-->Pentium M 1.7GHz with 915GM || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D and 3D tunnel 187 gearbox 67}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 Intel ICH6 with Conexant Cx20468 31 codec playback head phones only}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 2200BG Fn/F2 replaced with atheros mini pci in small base panel - startup errors in wireless manager}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.1 || <!--Comments-->2005 32bit 14" cheap rubbish sadly - fan noise through audio channel - |- | <!--Name-->Motion Computing LE1600 PC Slate || <!--Chipset-->915 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->915 || <!--Audio-->Intel AC97 SigmaTel STAC9758 9759 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8169 || <!--Wireless-->Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2005 serial Wacom digitiser not usb |- | <!--Name-->Panasonic Toughbook CF-51 CF-P1 CF-T5 CF-Y2 || <!--Chipset-->945GMS || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Broadcom || <!--Wireless-->Intel || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Sony Vaio VGN UX1XN UMPC || <!--Chipset-->Core Solo U1500 1.33GHz with 945GM chipset || <!--IDE-->1.8 inch ZIF || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->Intel 945GMS || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Marvell Yukon 8036 || <!--Wireless-->Intel 3945 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->32bit only - 4.5 inch screen ultra mobile PC |- | Sony Vaio VGN SR29VN || Intel ICH9 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE legacy}} || {{partial|ATI HD 3400 (VESA only)}} || {{partial|HD Audio (too quiet)}} || {{yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} || {{no|Marvell 8040}} || {{no|Intel 5100}} || Icaros 1.5 || 2007 32bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Wyse XM Class DELL WYSE Xn0m LAPTOP || <!--Chipset-->AMD T-G56N 1.6 1.65Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA-->decased 2.5in ssd || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d only AMD 6320}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--USB-->{{Maybe|EHCI 2.0 with NEC uPD720200 USB 3.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek rtl8169 8111E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 93xx}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 1366 x 768 14" - 2 ddr3l slots max 16gb - 19v coax barrel plug psu - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Wireless || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Huawei Matebook D KPL-W00 Honor Magicbook 2018 || <!--Chipset-->2500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|AMD Vega 8 use VESA}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{no|3.1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 14inch 1080p - internal battery - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Avita Pura 14 AVITA-PURAR3, AVITA-PURAR5 Hong Kong tech giant Nexstgo || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen R3 3200U, R5 3500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->m.2 || <!--Gfx-->Vega 3 (R3) 7 (R5) || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit 1,920 x 1,080 14in IPS but dim 194cd/m² and 59.4% of the sRGB colour gamut - 1 ddr4l sodimm slot - keyboard issues keyboard repair swap requires removal of all - components - flexible plastic build - 3 hr battery internal - |- | <!--Name-->Avita Liber V 3200U Ryzen 5 3500U, Avita Admiror 14 R7 3700U (UK only) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - better build but same 3 hr battery - 14" 1080p screen IPS 80% sRGB gamut - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Huawei Matebook D 15 14 AMD KPR-WX9 Honor Magicbook WAQ9AHNR, Huawei NBLK-WAX9X || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 5 3500U 4700U 5500U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|AMD Vega 8 use VESA}} || <!--Audio-->{{Unk| }} || <!--USB-->{{No|USB3.1 gen 1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Intel or Realtek || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2019 2020 - internal 42W later 56W battery - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - f6.5 recessed webcam |- | <!--Name-->Xiaomi Redmibook 16 || <!--Chipset-->AMD Ryzen 7 4700U with FCH 51 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->SSD 3 || <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon RX Vega 7 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->{{no|3.1}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8821CE wifi || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit metal 16.1 IPS 99% srgb 240 nits - 46whr battery - no webcam - keyboard repair swap requires removal of all components - |- | <!--Name-->Medion AG AKOYA® E14304 (MD63780), e14303 (MSN 30031052) (MD62110), Medion Akoya E15303 (lenovo bought 2011) || <!--Chipset-->4300u or Ryzen7 4700U || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->nvme || <!--Gfx-->Vega 6 || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bits 14" to 15"FHD 1080p - 8gb soldered - 19v 65W round port or usb-c charge psu - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Netbook=== [[#top|...to the top]] * One of the better options if re-partitioning of the hard disk is not suitable or wanted is to go with AROS hosted i.e. run a small linux distro and host AROS on top. AROS can exist on a Windows(TM) install as well. See here for more information [https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=779.0 Linux hosted] and [ Windows hosted] with downloads here [http://aros.sourceforge.net/download.php AROS download page] * installation needs an USB optical drive or an USB pen drive (see below) * PC with CD or DVD to install to a USB pendrive for boot purposes on a netbook * SD card sometimes can [ boot] like Dell 2100, EeePC 1001P, ASUS EeePC 900, acer aspire one d150, MSI Wind U100, [http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Audio-Codec-Comparison-Table/520 Audio Codecs] ====Acer Packard Bell Netbooks==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width=100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Aspire One AOA110 (A110) (ZG5) || Intel 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA (2D and 3D) tunnel 99 and gearbox 84 score}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC6628}} || {{Yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} || {{Yes|RTL8101E - rtl8169}} || {{Yes|AR5006}} atheros 5k || AspireOS 1.8 || 2007 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel A13-045N2A 19V2.37A 45W 5.5x1.7mm - |- | Aspire One AOA150 (A150) (ZG5) || Intel 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|ide mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 2D and accelerated 3D with tunnel 99 and gearbox 84.1 result}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC6628}} || {{Yes|uhci and ehci}} || {{Yes|RTL8101E - rtl8169}} || {{Yes|AR5006}} atheros 5k || AspireOS 1.8 || 2007 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel - |- | Aspire One AOD150 D150 (Compal LA-4781P), AOD110 D110 (ssd) || Intel 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|ide legacy}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{Yes|HDAudio with alc272}}] || {{Yes|USB}} || {{No|Atheros AR8121 AR8113 AR8114 l1e}} || {{Maybe|AR5007EG AR5BXB63 works but Broadcom BCM4312 has no support}} || Icaros Desktop 1.3 || 2008 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel - |- | Aspire One AOD250 D250 emachines em250 || 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|ide legacy}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{Yes|alc272 HD Audio}} || {{Yes}} || {{No|AR8132 (L1c)}} || {{No|BCM4312 or Atheros AR5B95}} || Icaros 1.3 || 2009 32bit 1 core - 19v barrel - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire AO532H (Compal LA-5651p) 533H Pineview || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio playback}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|AR8132 (L1c)}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k}} || [http://www.amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?mode=flat&order=0&item_id=5968 Tested AspireOS June 2011] || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->emachines eM350 NAV51 || <!--Chipset--> with N450 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel 3150 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.2 || <!--Comments-->Single core 64bit - 160GB HDD 1GB RAM 10.1" LED backlit screen and Webcam - 3 cell li-ion battery for 3 hours usage - |- | <!--Name-->emachines eM355 || <!--Chipset--> with N455 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->64bit support possible - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One 533 || <!--Chipset-->N455 with NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D 0x8086 0xa011}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| ALC272 codec ich7}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8152 v1.1 1c}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom 4313}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 and AROS One 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - f2 setup - 10.1inch 1024 x 768 - |- | Aspire One AOD255 AOD255e AOD260 AOHAPPY (Compal LA-6221P) || N570 and Nm10 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|SATA}} || {{Maybe|Intel GMA 3150}} || Audio || USB || {{No|Atheros AR8152 V1.1 (1lc)}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313}} || || a little support |- | Aspire One 522 AO522 (Compal LA-7072p) || 1GHz dual C-50 C50 or C-60 C60 + Hudson M1 || {{N/A}} || SATA || AMD 6250 (ATI 9804) or 6290 || ATI SB CX20584 HD Audio || USB || Atheros 8152 v2.0 l1c || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313 or Atheros ath9k}} || || |- | <!--Name-->AAOD270 Aspire One D270 || <!--Chipset-->N2600 Cedarview || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D on Intel GMA 3650}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8169 RTL8101E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4313 but swap for Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit atom - ddr2 so-dimm 2gb max - |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One AO532G (Compal LA-6091p) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One D257 (Quanta ZE6) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire One 722 AO722 P1VE6 || <!--Chipset-->AMD C-60 C60 with SB900 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe| use VESA Ati 6290}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec but no Wrestler HDMI output}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros AR8152 v2.0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9485}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1.2 || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Aspire One AO721 (Wistron SJV10-NL) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->AO751 AO751H (Quanta ZA3) || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot .S || <!--Chipset-->N280 + || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|legacy}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA950 (2D)}}|| <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC272X || <!--USB--> USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Atheros l1e}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros 9k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot .SE || <!--Chipset-->N450 + || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA950 (2D) || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC|| <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot .S2 NAV50 || <!--Chipset-->N455 NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel X3150 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC269 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Atheros || <!--Wireless-->Atheros || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Packard Bell Dot M/A || <!--Chipset-->1.2GHz Athlon L110 + RS690E || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy mode? || <!--Gfx-->AMD ATI Radeon Xpress X1270 (VESA only) || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ATI SBx00 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E rtl8169 || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Asus Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Models eeePC] 700 701 2G 4G 8G Surf || Intel 910GML + ICH7 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 900 2D and 3D tunnel 68 gearbox 43 on 701 800x480}} || {{Yes|ALC662 HD Audio}} || {{Yes|UHCI and EHCI}} || {{No|Atheros L2}} || {{Yes| }} AR5007EG (AR2425) - [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=32391&forum=28&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#583583 works] || NB 2013 and 2.1.1 (best) and 2.1.2 || 2007 32bit - power supplies fail due to bad caps issue psu Power Charger 9.5V 2.5A 24W Charger 4.8*1.7MM - |- | [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Models eeePC] 701SD || Intel 910GML + ICH7 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Maybe|Intel GMA 900 (2D)}} || {{Yes|ALC662 HD Audio}} || {{Yes|UHCI and EHCI}} || {{No|Atheros L2}} || {{No|RTL8187SE swap with Atheros 5k}} || AspireOS 1.7 || 2007 32bit - boot issues but does boot with ATA=32bit,nopoll or ATA=nodma,nopoll |- | [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Models eeePC] 900 || Intel 910GML + ICH7 || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Maybe|Intel GMA 900 (2D, 3D in some models)}} || {{Yes|ALC662 HD Audio]}} || {{Yes|UHCI and EHCI}} || {{No|Atheros L2}} || {{Maybe|depends on chipset}} AR5007EG (AR2425) - [http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=32391&forum=28&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#583583 works] but not RaLink || AspireOS 1.7 || 2008 32bit - boot issues but does boot with ATA=32bit,nopoll or ATA=nodma,nopoll. 900's may need BIOS upgrade to boot usb optical drives. 3D available in some and not all model revisions - |- | eeePC 900A || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (3D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC269}} || {{Yes|USB2.0}} || {{No|Atheros L1e [1969 1026]}} || {{Yes|Atheros 5k AR242x}} || Nightly Build 2012 05-25 || 2009 32bit |- | eeePC 901 1000 || 945GM || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{Yes|ALC269 HD Audio}} || {{Yes|USB}} || {{No|Atheros L1E (AR8121 AR8113 AR8114)}} || {{No|RaLink Device 2860 swap with Atheros 5k}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2009 32bit |- | eeePC Seashell 1000HA 1000HE 1008 1005HA || N280 + Intel GMA950 || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{Yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio ALC269}} || {{Yes|USB}} || {{Maybe|Realtek but not Atheros AR8132 (L1c)}} || {{No|Atheros AR9285 swap with Atheros 5k}} || Aspire OS 1.6 || 2010 32bit |- | <!--Name-->eeePC 1001ha || <!--Chipset-->GMA945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 950 (2D) || <!--Audio-->ALC269 HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Attansic Atheros AR8132 l1c}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|RaLink RT3090 swap with Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2010 32bit |- | eeePC 1001P T101MT 1005PX 1005PE 1015PE Pineview 1001PXD || NM10 and N450 N455 CPU || {{N/A}} || {{Maybe|IDE mode}} || {{Yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio}} || {{Yes|USB 2.0}} || {{No|Atheros AR8132 (l1c)}} || {{No|Atheros AR928x 802.11n}} || Icaros 1.3.3 || 2011 64bit |- | EeePC 1015B 1215B || single C-30 C30 or dual C-50 C50 + Hudson M1 || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{partial|AMD 6250 (VESA only)}} || ATI SBx00 HD Audio || USB || {{No|AR8152 v2.0 atl1c}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM4313 [14e4 4727]}} || || 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Flare X101CH Cedarview || <!--Chipset-->N2600 + N10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 6300 || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros l1c 2.0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Flare 1025CE 1225CE || <!--Chipset-->N2800 + N10 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{dunno|Intel GMA 3600}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros l1c 2.0}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros 9k AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Dell Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Inspiron 910 Mini 9 PP39S Vostro A90 || GMA945 || {{Maybe|STEC 8G 16G 32G IDE PATA Parallel ATA miniPCIE SSD 50MM / 70MM very slow}} || {{N/A| }} || {{yes|Intel GMA 2D and 3D opengl1}} || {{yes|ALC268 HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB2 boots and works}} || {{yes|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8102E}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4310 and 4312 swap with atheros 5k bx32}} || ICAROS 1.3 but Icaros 2.3 (pci issues), AROS One 2.6 and Tiny AROS (digiclock startup) mouse cursor vanishes || 2009 32bit - 9inch 1024x600 screen - 1 ddr2 sodimm slot max 2gig - 19v 1.58a - 0 boot disk select - cr2032 battery under laptop base cover, while mem 2GB max under base flap - |- | <!--Name-->Mini 10 1010 PP19S || <!--Chipset-->Atom Z520 Z530 Intel US15W Poulsbo || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel GMA 500 (VESA only)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio ALC269 codec}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 RTL8102E}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|Intel or BCM4312}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - 10.10 inch 16:9, 1366 x 768 glossy - 28whr or 56wHr battery options - |- | [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Dell%20Mini%2010v%20(Inspiron%201011) Mini 10v 1011] [http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/InspironMini10v ] || Intel 950 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|ide legacy mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || HD Audio || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|RTL8102E 8103E}} || {{no|Dell 1397 Wireless}} || || |- | <!--Name-->Inspiron Mini 1018 || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{partial|IDE mode }} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D, no VGA output)}} || <!--Audio-->{{partial|HD Audio head phones only - speaker and micro phone do not work}} || <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|RTL8188CE or AR928X}} || <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.5.1 || <!--Comments--> |- | Latitude 2100 || Intel Atom N270 N280 1.60Ghz GMA 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{Yes|set to IDE in bios as ahci not working || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D and 3D with tunnel 98 and gearbox 84)}} || {{yes|HD Audio with ALC272 codec}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{No|Broadcom BCM5764M}} || {{No|Intel 5100 or BCM4322 DW 1510 half height mini pcie use small Atheros 5k}} || <!--Test Distro-->AspireOS 1.8, Icaros 2.1.1 and AROS One USB 2.4 || 2009 32bit ddr2 sodimm max 2G - [https://sites.google.com/site/arosaspireone/about-aspire-one Webcam and card reader not working] lcd cable over hinge an issue - f12 bios and boot - |- | <!--Name-->Latitude 2110 2120 || <!--Chipset-->N470 1.83Ghz, N455 1.6Ghz, N550 1.5Ghz || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Yes|ATA mode in bios not ahci}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 3150 2D only}} || <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with ALC269 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No| }} || <!--Wireless-->{{No| swap for Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icros 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - ddr2 sodimm |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====HP Compaq Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | HP Mini 2133 || VIA C7-M P4M900 / 8237 VX700 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{maybe|VIA Chrome 9 HC (VESA only)}} || VT1708/A HD Audio || USB || {{no|Broadcom Corp NetXtreme BCM5788}} || {{no|Broadcom Corp BCM4312}} || || |- | HP mini 1000 Mi 2140 ks145ut || N270 + 945GM || {{N/A}} || SATA || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D and opengl1 3d)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio (playback tested)}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{no|Broadcom Corp BCM4312 hard blocked}} || || 2011 32Bit - unable to change wifi card |- | <!--Name-->HP Mini 700 702 || <!--Chipset-->N270 + 945GSE || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio IDT 92HD75B (111d:7608, only playback tested)}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom hard locked}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | Compaq HP Mini 110 110-3112sa || 945GM Express || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{yes|HD Audio IDT STAC 92xx}} || {{yes|USB 2.0}} || {{no|Atheros}} || {{no|Broadcom hard blocked Fn+F12}} || || 2011 32bit - unable to change wifi |- | HP Mini 200 210 || 945GM NM10 Express || {{N/A}} || SATA || Intel GMA 950 || HD Audio || USB || RTL8101E RTL8102E || {{no|Broadcom BCM4312 hard locked}} || || |- | HP Mini 311 DM1 (Quanta FP7) || N280 + ION LE || {{N/A}} || SATA || nVidia Geforce ION || HD Audio || USB || eth || {{No|hard locked}} || || 2009 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Wireless--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |} ====Lenovo Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | IdeaPad S9 S9e(3G) S10 S10e(3G) || 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{no|ALC269 or SigmaTel HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Broadcom NetLink BCM5906M}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4312 hard blocked}} || || little support |- | IdeaPad S12 || N270 + Nvidia ION LE MCP79 || {{N/A}} || SATA || nVidia C79 ION [Quadro FX 470M] || ALC269 HD Audio || USB || Broadcom || Intel hard blocked || || Does not boot - cause unknown |- | S10-2 || 945GME and N280 CPU || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || {{no|ALC269 HD Audio}} || {{yes}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|Broadcom BCM4312 hard blocked}} || Icaros 1.3 || |- | S10-3 || NM410 and N450 CPU || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || {{no|HD Audio ALC269}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|Atheros 9285 or Broadcom BCM4312 hard blocked}} || Icaros 1.3 || |- | <!--Name-->Ideapad 100S || <!--Chipset-->Atom Z36xxx Z37xxx Series SoC || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Intel || <!--Audio-->Intel SST Audio Device (WDM) || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} || <!--Wireless-->Realtek RTL8723BS hard blocked || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2015 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Samsung Netbooks==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | [http://www.amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=616910&topic_id=33755&forum=28#616910 NC10] || 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{partial|SigmaTel HD Audio (playback only)}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{maybe|rtl8169 works but not Marvell 88E8040 sky2}} || {{yes|AR5007EG}} || Icaros 1.4 || 2009 32bit - Nano silver on keyboard and lcd ribbon cable over hinge issues |- | [http://www.sammywiki.com/wiki/Samsung_NC20 NC20] || VIA VX800 || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{maybe|VIA Chrome9 (VESA only)}} || ALC272 GR (VT1708A) HD Audio || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{yes|Atheros AR5001}} || || 2009 32bit - little support |- | N110 N120 || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || SATA || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{yes|ALC272 HD Audio or ALC6628}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{no|Realtek rtl8187}} || || 2009 32bit - some support - Namuga 1.3M Webcam none |- | N130 || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{yes|SATA in IDE mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 2D and opengl 1.x 99.5 tunnel 99 gearbox}} || {{yes|Intel HD with ALC272 ALC269 codec playback}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{yes|RTL 8169.device - 8101e 8102e}} || {{no|rtl 8192se rtl8187 too small an area to swap for atheros 5k}} || || 2009 32bit - 10.x inch 1024 x 600 - Namuga 1.3M Webcam - front slide power on and f2 setup bios - keyboard 17.7mm Pitch is made with Silver Nano (Anti-Bacterial) tech - small touchpad - 1 ddr2 2rx16 sodimm slot 2G max - 44Wh |- | <!--Name-->Go NP-N310 || <!--Chipset-->N270 + 945GME || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio ALC6628}} || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|Atheros5k}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2010 32bit - N280 version changed specs |- | N510 || N270 euro N280 uk + ION MCP79 || {{N/A}} || SATA || nVidia C79 ION [Quadro FX 470M] || HD Audio || USB || Marvell 88E8040 || Realtek 8192E || || Does not boot - cause unknown |- | <!--Name-->NC110 Axx || <!--Chipset-->NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->Sata || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC269 codec A9M22Q2 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Broadcom BCM4313 or Atheros}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - |- | NF210 Pineview || n455 or n550 + N10 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|SATA}} || {{maybe|Intel GMA 3150 (needs retesting, VESA works)}} || {{yes|HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || Wireless || || 2011 64bit - some support |- | NP N145 Plus || n450 + NM10 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D, no VGA output)}} || {{yes|Realtek HD Audio}} || {{yes|USB2.0}} || {{no|Marvell 88E8040}} || {{no|Atheros AR9285}} || || 2010 some support but often the trackpad does not work |- | <!--Name-->NS310 NP-NS310-A03UK || <!--Chipset-->N570 with NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|use Vesa 2d }} || <!--Audio-->{{yes| ich7}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 realtek 810xe }} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|bcm4313 }} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.3 || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit Atom N570 or 1.5 GHz Intel Atom N550 dual core processor, 1 DDR3 sodimm slot memory, a 250GB hard drive, and a 10.1 inch, 1024 x 600 pixel 10.1" W7St - 2300mAh short life - |- | <!--Name-->[https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Samsung_N150 N150] NB30 || <!--Chipset-->MN10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{No| }} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8040}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285 or Realtek 8192E}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->a little support |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.kruedewagen.de/wiki/index.php/Samsung_N220 N210 N220] N230 || <!--Chipset-->N450 + NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 3150 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC269 || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->a little |- | <!--Name-->NC110 Pxx Cedarview || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{dunno|Intel GMA 3600}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Intel 6000g}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Toshiba Netbooks==== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->NB100 || <!--Chipset-->945GM || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|legacy}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC262 HD Audio}} || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|AR5001}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2009 32bit - some support |- | <!--Name-->Mini NB200 series NB205 || <!--Chipset-->N280 + GSE945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|IDE legacy mode}}|| <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->ALC272 HD Audio || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2009 32bit - |- | <!--Name-->Mini 300 series NB305 || <!--Chipset-->N455 with NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 3150 (2D) || <!--Audio-->ALC272 HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->{{no|AR9285}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Mini 500 series NB505 NB520 NB550-10v || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->legacy || <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA 3150 (2D) || <!--Audio-->HD Audio || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->RTL8101E RTL8102E || <!--Wireless-->Realtek 8176 RTL 8188CE || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit - |- | [http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Toshiba-NB550D-AMD-Fusion-Netbook.46551.0.html Mini NB550D 10G] 108 (c30) 109 (c50) || C-50 + M1 || {{N/A}} || SATA || AMD 6250 (VESA only) || HD Audio || USB || Realtek 8111e rtl8169 || Atheros 9k || || 2011 64bit Realtek SD card reader |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Misc Netbooks==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="10%" |Wireless ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="30%" |Comments |- | Cammy's A1600 || GME945 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{yes|Intel GMA950 (2D)}} || {{yes|HD Audio playback}} || {{yes}} || {{no|JMC 250/260}} || Wireless || Icaros 1.2.4 || |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Mini Ui 3520 || <!--Chipset-->Intel 945 || <!--ACPI--> || <!--SATA-->{{yes}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->ALC269 HD Audio || <!--USB-->{{yes}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{yes|AR5001}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->good |- | Guillemot Hercules eCafe EC-900 H60G-IA], Mitac MiStation and Pioneer Computers Dreambook Light U11 IL1 || Intel 945GME || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{yes|Intel GMA950 (2D)}} || {{Yes|HD Audio (playback only)}} || {{yes|uhci and ehci}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|RAlink RT2860}} || || Slowly gaining support |- | <!--Name-->Hannspree Hannsnote SN10E2 24 48 || <!--Chipset-->N450 + NM10 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->IDE legacy mode || <!--Gfx-->Pineview Intel (2D) || <!--Audio-->ALC HD Audio || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->Atheros l1c || <!--Wireless-->Atheros AR9285 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Opinion--> |- | MSI Wind U90/U100 || GME945 || {{N/A}} || {{maybe}} || {{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || {{partial|HD Audio ALC888s (playback only?)}} || {{yes|uhci 1.1 and ehci 2.0}} || {{yes|rtl8169}} || {{no|RaLink RT2860 RT2700E or rtl8187se (u100x)}} || Icaros 1.3 || |- | Advent 4211 || 945GSE || {{N/A}} || {{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || Intel GMA950 (2D) || ALC HD Audio || USB || rtl8169 || {{no|Intel 3945 ABG}} || || MSI U100 clone |- | <!--Name-->Hannspree Hannsnote SN10E1 || <!--Chipset-->N270 + GMA945 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{maybe|IDE legacy mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA 950 (2D)}} || <!--Audio-->ALC HD Audio || <!--USB-->USB2.0 || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek RTL8101E RTL8102E RTL8169}} || <!--Wireless-->{{no|RaLink RT2860}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->MSI U100 clone |- | <!--Name--> Vaio VGN-P11Z | <!--Chipset--> | <!--IDE--> {{dunno}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{Partial|Intel (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Marvell}} | <!--Wireless--> {{no|Atheros AR928X}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 2.0.3 | <!--Comments--> Rarely boots! |- | <!--Name-->Sony VPC-W11S1E | <!--Chipset-->N280 with 945GSE | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|Intel GMA950 - hdmi}} | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with realtek codec | <!--USB-->3 USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros AR8132}} | <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR9285 swap with 5k}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit - 10.1" 1366 x 768 glossy - 3hr battery life - |- | <!--Name-->Archos 10 Netbook || <!--Chipset-->Atom with ICH7 NM10 945GSE || <!--IDE-->{{No }} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 || <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC662 codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8139 || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI Wind U135 DX MS-N014 || <!--Chipset-->Intel N455 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|2D only accelerated}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|ALC662 rev 1}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|RTL}} || <!--Wireless-->{{No|Atheros AR 9K}} || <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.1 || <!--Comments-->needs noacpi notls added to grub boot line to start up |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--Chipset--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Wireless--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Desktop Systems=== [[#top|...to the top]] Most Intel Atom and equivalent AMD Fusion CPUs / APUs are faster than Intel P3s but still some way short of P4 or Dual Core performance. {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" | <!--OK-->{{Yes|'''Works well'''}} || <!--May work-->{{Maybe|'''Works a little'''}} || <!--Not working-->{{No|'''Does not work'''}} || <!--Not applicable-->{{N/A|'''N/A not applicable'''}} |- |} ====Acer==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.acer.com/ac/en/ID/content/support-product/486;-; Veriton X270 VTX270] Intel Core 2 Duo ED7400C or Pentium dual-core UD7600C with 630i | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d Nvidia 7100 VGA and HDMI connections}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe| with realtek codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|4 rear and 5 front}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe| nForce}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 dvd | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit capable but would not fully boot, DHCP address timeout too short and failed often. Put in a third party NIC, worked - 1 PCI Express x16 slot and a free PCI x1 slot - internal thin long psu with 12pin - |- | <!--Name--> Imedia S1710 with Intel Dual Core E5200 | <!--IDE--> {{Yes|SATA/AHCI}} | <!--SATA--> {{Maybe|Native IDE}} | <!--Gfx--> {{Yes|Nvidia nForce 7100}} | <!--Audio--> {{Yes|Nvidia MCP73}} | <!--USB--> {{Yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{No|NVIDIA MCP73 Ethernet}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 14-09-2023, AROS One 2.3 | <!--Comments--> 2009 64-bit - Boot over USB not working on front - 2 DDR2 dual channel max 8GB - DEL for entering Bios - F12 for boot menu - Bus weird, could be reason for Ethernet issue |- | <!--Name-->Acer Revo AR1600, R1600 AR3600, R3600 Packard Bell iMax Mini, ACER Veriton N260G N270G slim nettop subcompact | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Native IDE mode, '''when it works''' boots}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Nvidia ION GeForce 9300M - nouveau 3d - '''when it boots''' 400 fps in shell'ed gearbox, 278 in tunnel, 42 in teapot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with alc662 codec but nothing from HDMI audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Nvidia USB boot usb2 stick issues and slower with usb3 drives}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|MCP79 nForce}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 Intel Atom 230 N280 - 20cm/8" high 1 ltr noisy fan - very often boot stuck around ehciInit - DEL setup F12 boot options - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4GB - 19v special barrel size 5.5mm/1.7mm psu - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4GB - atheros 5k AR5BXB63 wifi - |- | <!--Name-->Revo AR3610 R3610 3610 Atom 330 nettop subcompact dual core | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Native IDE mode, '''when it works''' boots}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Nvidia ION GeForce 9400M LE MCP79MX - nouveau 3d - '''when it boots''' 400 fps in shell'ed gearbox, 278 in tunnel, 42 in teapot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with Realtek alc662 rev1 alc662-hd later ALC885 codec but nothing from HDMI audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Nvidia USB with 1% chance boot with usb2 sticks, more issues with usb3 drives}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|RTL 8211CL MCP79 nForce}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 1.5, 1.6 and 2.4 usb | <!--Comments-->2010 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 20cm/8" high 1 ltr noisy fan - boot often stuck around ehciInit, SATA, etc try ATA=off, non usb hub keyboard, - DEL bios setup, F12 BBS POPUP/drive boot - 2 ddr2 sodimm slots max 4GB - 19v barrel psu with smaller inner pin size 5.5mm/1.7mm - replace wifi RT3090 ver c (linux) with atheros 5k - |- | <!--Name-->REVO AR3700 R3700 3700 Atom D525 dual core - ACER Veriton N282G *one long beep followed by two short, bios damaged *looping one long two short, a video card fault *two short beeps... CMOS damaged *got one long and one short beep... board error? | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE ready in Bios}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia ION2 GT218 ION vga fine '''but''' hdmi fussy over display used - nouveau 2d & 3d gearbox 404 tunnel 292 teapot 48}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDA Intel with Realtek ALC662 rev1 codec, head phones only but nothing from NVidia HDMI}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|Intel® NM10 Express (NM10 is basically an ICH7 with a die shrink and IDE removed) USB boots usb, installs usb, accesses ok}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169 8111g}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS one USB 1.5 and 1.6 | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 20cm/8" high 1 ltr noisy fan - early 2 ddr2 sodimm slots but later 2 ddr3 sodimm slots 1Rx8 max 4GB - 19v barrel psu thinner pin - replace wifi RT3090 ver d with atheros 5k mini pci-e - ACPI Suspend Mode = S1, S3 (STR), S4 - Power on PCIe * Known Acer issue, Boot into bios, set bios to UEFI and reboot, set bios back to defaults and reboot, blank display, repair with reflash of 8 pin Winbond W25Q socketed bios chip with ch341a using 2011/09/19 P01.B0L, 2011/05/09 P01.A4, 2011/05/03 P01.A3L, 2010/12/27 P01.A2L, 2010/12/27 P01.A2 amiboot.rom - |- | <!--Name-->Revo 70 (RL70) with or without dvdrw | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->6320 or 6310 | <!--Audio-->HD audio ALC662-VCO-GR codec | <!--USB-->USB2, 1.1 Hudson D1 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD E450 1.65GHz - 19v 65w barrel psu thinner inner pin - 2 DDR3L single channel max 4GB - replace wifi RT3090 ver d with atheros 5k mini pci-e - 1lr or 1.5 ltr dvdrw case 209.89 mm, (D) 209.89 mm, (H) 35.35 mm - del enter bios - |- |} ====Asus==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->EEEbox B202 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Intel GMA950 | <!--Audio-->Intel Azalia HDaudio with Realtek ALC662 or ALC888-GR CODEC | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111 or JM250 | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros | <!--Comments-->internal 3 types of wifi chipset not supported |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Dell==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name--> Precision 340 | <!--IDE--> {{yes}} | <!--SATA--> {{n/a}} | <!--Gfx--> {{n/a}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|Intel AC97}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 1.1 (UHCI)}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|3Com}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Dimension 2400 | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel 82845GL Brookdale G/GE (VESA 640x480 by 16)}} | <!--Audio-->{{Unk|AC97 with ADI codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|UHCI EHCI}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Broadcom 440x 4401}} | <!--Test Distro-->[http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=832495 Icaros 1.4] | <!--Comments-->Graphics chipset is capable of higher resolution. |- | <!--Name-->Dimension 4600 | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{dunno}} | <!--Gfx-->{{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|Intel AC97 (use rear black port)}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|UHCI/EHCI}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Intel PRO/100}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 1.5.2 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 170L | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|Intel AC97}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|Intel PRO/100}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex GX260 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|Intel AC97}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Intel PRO/1000}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | Optiplex GX270 | {{yes|Working}} | {{partial|IDE mode}} | {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | {{yes|Intel AC97}} | {{yes|USB 2.0}} | {{no|Intel PRO/1000}} | Icaros 1.5.2 | <!--Comments--> |- | Optiplex GX280 | {{yes|Working}} | {{partial|IDE mode}} | {{maybe|Intel GMA (only VESA tested)}} | {{yes|Intel AC97}} | {{yes|USB 2.0}} | {{no|Broadcom}} | Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex GX520 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{yes|Intel GMA}} | <!--Audio--> {{partial|Intel AC97 (no line-out)}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 745 | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel GMA (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{partial|HD Audio (no volume control)}} | <!--USB--> {{partial|Only keyboard mouse (legacy mode)}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 755 | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel GMA (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Intel Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.5.1 | <!--Comments--> Around 25 second delay in booting from USB |- | <!--Name--> Optiplex 990 | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{partial|non-RAID mode}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel HD (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{no|Intel Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro--> Nightly Build 2014 09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 360 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|ordinary boot gives VGA mode only - VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|HD Audio (Analog Devices ID 194a)}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->Aspire Xenon | <!--Comments-->poor support |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse Vx0 (V90 V30), Vx0L (V10L V90L), Vx0LE (V30LE V90LE) from VIA C7 800GHz to Eden 1.2GHz | <!--IDE-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d for S3 UniChrome Pro}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 VIA VT8233A with ?? codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 back and 1 front USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|early models work but later VT6102-3 do not}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.2 | <!--Comments-->2006 to 2009 32bit - 12V 4A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm - 1 sodimm DDR 333MHz SO-DIMM later DDR2 - early V90s do seem to have a reliability problem - |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.poppedinmyhead.com/2021/01/wyse-cx0-thin-client-notes-experiences.html Dell Wyse Cx0] C00LE, C10LE, C30LE, C50LE, C90LE, C90LE7, C90LEW VIA C7 Eden 1GHz | <!--IDE-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d VX855 VX875 Chrome 9}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|some VIA VT8237A VT8251 HDA with ?? codec work}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 outside 2 inside USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|VT6120 VT6121 VT6122 Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2010 to 2013 32bit - [https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=815.0 boots and works] - 12V 2.5A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm - 1 sodimm ddr2 - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Dell RxxL Rx0L thin client *R00L Cloud PC of Wyse WSM *R10L Wyse Thin OS *R50L Suse Linux Enterprise *R90L Win XP Embedded *R90LW Win Embedded Standard 2009 *R90L7 Win Embedded Standard 7 | <!--IDE-->128Mb IDE or 1GB | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|SATA Hyperdisk}} | <!--Gfx-->AMD 690E RS690M Radeon Xpress 1200 1250 1270 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 usb2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit AMD Sempron™ 210U SMG210UOAX3DVE 1.5GHz SB600, up to 4GB single slot 240-pin DDR2 DIMM, 19v barrel psu, DEL key bios - Late 2012 2 data sockets added but only CN18 be used with two white sockets (CN13 & CN15) can used to power the SATA device "4-pin Micro JST 1.25mm |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 390 sff small form factor - mt mini tower desktop - dt full desktop | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|1 pci-e}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe|realtek}} | <!--Test Distro-->aros one 1.6 usb | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit dual i3 2xxx - kettle iec plug psu cable - add nvidia gf218 gfx - error code 3 mobo or cpu - |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 3010 sff small form factor | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|1 pci-e}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom 57XX}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit dual i3 3xxx - kettle iec plug psu cable - |- | <!--Name-->Optiplex 7010 sff small form factor | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|1 pci-e}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom or Intel 825xx}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit dual i3 3xxx Q77 - kettle iec plug psu cable - add pci-e ethernet and nvidia gf218 gfx - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 5010 thin client ThinOS D class (D10D D00D D00DX, Dx0D), PCoIP (D10DP) or D90D7, 5040 *username: Administrator, admin, [blank] *password: Fireport, DellCCCvdi, rappot, Wyse#123, Administrator, administrator, r@p8p0r+ | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE mode may need 30cm ext cable as small area for half-slim sata ssd - decased new ssd??}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d 1400x1050 HD6250E IGP by using DVI to hdmi cable and 1 display port, no hdmi port}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD 6.34 audio chipset detected but codec alc269 working from one case speaker - none if v6.29 used}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|most 5010 have 4 USB 2.0 but D90Q7 has 2 USB3 instead}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8168 8169 - rev 1.?? 8111? - rev 1.91 8111E}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit slow AMD G-T44R 1.2Ghz later G-T48E 1.4Ghz Dual Bobcat Brazos BGA413 - Del for BIOS - p key to select boot with noacpi - single DDR3 sodimm slot max 4Gb, (8Gb hynix 2rx8 ddr3l)? (remove small board to upgrade) - passive no fan - 15cm/6" small 1ltr case and lack of expansion options - PA16 19v barrel psu Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 7010 DTS thin client (Z class Zx0D) *2011 Zx0 Z90D7 2GF/2GR *2013 Z10D *2014 Z50D 2GF/2GR *2012 Cisco VXC 6000 CVXC-6215-K9 white | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|Bios set Sata mode to IDE mode and grub boot add 'noacpi' for half slim sata2 ssd or/with 50cm sata ext cable}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2d HD6310 6320 Terascale 2 through DVI and DP 1.1a - no 3d support r600 and no hdmi port}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio 6.34 detected but ALC269VB codec works on the one case speaker only}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|2.0 works but NEC 720200 3.0 not detected but sometimes works like 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111e 8111F}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 and Aros One 1.5, 1.9 and 2.3 usb | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 slow cores AMD G-t52R 1.5GHz later G-T56N 1.65 GHz Dual with A50M FCH - 20cm/8" high 1.5ltr larger fanless black plastic case with metal ventilated box inside - 2 desktop DIMM slots max 16GB - miniPCIe CN14 no msata ssd support in bios - PA-16 19v external psu Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm - 2 40cm SMA female WiFi Antenna to IPEX IPX u.fl Ufl Cable pigtail needed - does not like uefi boot devices - |- | <!--Name-->Wyse 7020 Thin Client * 2013 Quad-core AMD GX-420CA 2.0 GHz (25W) - * 2018 Zx0Q Quad-core AMD GX-415GA 1.5 GHz (15W) with Quad display 3dp and 1dvi | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 sata port | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d only for AMD Radeon HD8400E radeonsi (dual display) or AMD Radeon HD 8330E IGP with AMD Radeon E6240 Seymour E6460 (quad display), no hdmi ports}} | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 x USB2.0 works but 2 USB3 issues | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 quad eKabini Jaguar cores - two SODIMM sockets layered in centre of mobo DDR3L RAM - Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm ac psu 9mm plug is too short but 14mm length is fine - 15cm/6" high smaller 1ltr case and lack of expansion options - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse Dx0Q (5020) D90Q8 NJXG4 AMD G-Series | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 sata port | <!--Gfx-->HD 8330E | <!--Audio--> with Realtek codec | <!--USB-->4 x USB2.0 works but 2 USB3 issues | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 Quad-core AMD GX-415GA 1.5 GHz - 2 layered near edge of mobo 204-pin DDR3L SODIMM (bottom one tricky to insert) - 19v Coax 5.5mm/2.5mm - passive no fan - 15cm/6" high smaller 1ltr case and lack of expansion options |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 5060 N07D thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE bios mode for sata2 port}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Vesa 2d - AMD R5E GCN2 IGP Sea Islands thru dp1 with an hdmi adapter no output thru dp2 - no hdmi dvi ports}} | <!--Audio-->{{maybe|HD Audio with Realtek ALC231 codec head phones only}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|4 x USB2.0 works but 2 USB3 issues}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 realtek 8169 8111h}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 1.6 usb | <!--Comments-->2017 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 quad GX-424CC 19.5v external psu - CN-0Y62H1 mobo with 2 layered ddr3l 16Gb max sodimm slots at edge of mobo, bottom 0 one blocking - passive no fan so quiet - 15cm/6" high smaller 1ltr case and lack of expansion options - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Wyse 3040 (N10D) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Intel | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 4c4t Intel Cherry Trail x5 Z-8350 (1.44 GHz Quad) - two versions, one is 5V-3A, the other is 12V-2A - 2 GB DDR3L 1600 MHz, 8 GB or 16 GB eMMC flash chip, all soldered down - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Fujitsu Siemens==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="15%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | Scenic [http://uk.ts.fujitsu.com/rl/servicesupport/techsupport/ProfessionalPC/Scenic/ScenicE/ScenicE.htm E600] (compact desktop) | | | {{partial|VESA only}} | {{yes|AC97}} | | {{no|Intel PRO/1000}} | {{dunno}} | Nice small, silent PC with good AROS support. |- | Scenic T i845 | {{dunno}} | {{n/a}} | {{n/a}} | {{dunno|Intel AC97}} | {{dunno|UHCI}} | {{dunno|Intel PRO/100}} | Icaros 1.5.2 | AROS does not boot |- | <!--Name-->Futro S200 S210 S220 and later S300 | <!--IDE-->{{yes| compactflash CF card max ??}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 315PRO PCI/AGP }} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 via }} | <!--USB-->{{unk|via uhci and ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|via VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74) }} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - TR5670 Rev 1.4 mother with Transmeta TM5800 cpu - pci socket - single SODIMM socket for DDR memory PC2700S max 512MB - |- | <!--Name-->Futro S400 | <!--IDE-->{{yes| but swap with compactflash CF card already with AROS installed}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS741CX }} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 SiS7018}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|sis uhci and ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|rtl8169 }} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - AMD Geode NX1500 1GHz gets hot - SiS 963L / SiS 741CX chipset - 12V 4.2A 4-pin (DP-003-R) psu - single SODIMM socket for DDR PC2700S max 1G - large case 246 x 48 x 177cms torx screws - pci socket - |- | <!--Name-->FUJITSU Futro S700 and S900 Thin Client (based on mini-ITX motherboard D3003-A12, D3003-C1 lesser variant of [https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/Futro/s900/TechNotes_V3.1_Mini-ITX_D3003-S.pdf D3003-S]) *G-T56N 1.65GHz *G-T40N 1.00GHz *G-T44R 1.20GHz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 sata data socket but mSata | <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 6320, HD 6250, HD 6290 dvi or displayport (DP runs higher) | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->{{yes|two USB2 front sockets and four on the rear}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit AMD slow atom-like and fanless - 20V 2A psu 5.5mm/2.1mm coax (S900) - mSATA 1GB-16GB - 2 DDR3L SODIMM sockets max 8GB tricky to run 1333 MHz on the Futro S900 - proprietary X2 PCI-e - 1 PCI socket but need a right-angle adaptor - |- | <!--Name-->esprimo p420 e85 desktop case | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->Intel 4600 or old Geforce in pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio realtek alc671 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - 16 pin special psu - |- | <!--Name-->esprimo E420 e85+ SFF case | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->Intel 4600 or low profile pci-e card | <!--Audio-->HDAudio realtek alc671 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - 16ish pin special psu - hd under front metal bracket, take front cover off first with 3 tabs - 3 slim pci-e slots - |- | <!--Name-->Futro S520 AMD dual 1.0Ghz codenamed "Steppe Eagle" * GX-210HA @ 1.0GHz * GX-212ZC @ 1.2GHz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->no sata - 4Gb or 16Gb flash memory soldered to the board | <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon HD 8210E (GX210HA) or AMD Radeon R1E (GX212ZC) | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111e | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - smaller than ITX 160mm x 160mm Fujitsu D3314-A11 - 19V 3.4A PSU standard 5.5mm/2.1mm coax plug - 1 ddr3 sodimm slot - |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu Futro S720 ThinClient D3313-B13 D3313-F *2014 64bit AMD GX-217GA 1.65GHz VFY:S0720P8009FR VFY:S0720P8008DE VFY:S0720P4009GB *2015 64bit AMD GX-222GC 2.20GHz VFY:S0720P702BDE VFY:S0720P702BFR all begin VFY:S0720P and end two digit country code | <!--IDE--> {{N/A|}} | <!--SATA--> {{Yes|up to 2 Sata-cable-connector with space in casing so normal SSD/HDD over Sata was running very well on AHCI and IDE-Mode and 2242 mSata}} | <!--Gfx--> {{Maybe|use VESA 2D for AMD Radeon HD 8280E IGP ( islands) or later R5E IGP ( islands)}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|HDAudio ALC671 codec partially working, external audio speaker}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|4 rear USB 2.0 but not front 2 USB 3.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8169}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB 2.0 | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit supports AVX and SSE 4.1 - 1 ddr3 Sodimm slot max 8Gb - 19V-20V 2A 5.5mm/2.5mm coax - D3313-B13 stripped down Mini-ITX mobo D3313-S1/-S2/-S3 (eKabini) D3313-S4/-S5/-S6 - SATA data socket can be located under the fins of the cpu heatsink is fanless - mPCIe socket for wireless card - |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu FUTRO S920 D3313-E D3313-G *2016 AMD GX-222GC SOC 2.20GHz Dual *2017 AMD G-Series GX-415GA (1.50 GHz, Quad Core, 2 MB, AMD Radeon™ HD 8330E) *2017 AMD G-Series GX-424CC 2.40 GHz Quad | <!--IDE--> {{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> {{yes|2242 mSata and 1 Sata-cable-connector with space in casing so normal SSD/HDD over Sata possible}} | <!--Gfx--> {{yes|use VESA 2D for Radeon R5E GCN2/3 IGP}} | <!--Audio--> {{yes|HDAudio ALC671 codec partially working}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|4 rear USB 2.0, front 2 USB 3.1 downgradable to 2.0 in BIOS setting}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8169}} | <!--Test Distro--> AROS One USB 2.4 | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 2 so dimm slot with max of 8 GB - 19v barrel psu 5.5mm 2.5mm - SATA data socket can be located under the fins of the heatsink - mPCIe a e keyed socket for wireless card - propetary X2 connector with official raizer to X1 connector - almost silent background noise, not affecting sound quality in any way |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu Thin Client Futro S5011 S7011 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->{{No|Vesa 2D for AMD Vega 3 on 2 dp 1.4}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ALC623 codec}} | <!--USB-->USB3 USB 3.2 Gen 2 front and 3 usb2 rear | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - AMD Ryzen Dual Core R1305G or R1505G 1ltr case - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - TPM 2.0 - 19v 3.42amp round coax or usb-c 20c 3.25a external psu - |- | <!--Name-->Fujitsu FUTRO S9011 Thin Client VFY:S9011THU1EIN || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVMe || <!--Gfx-->{{No|Vesa 2D for AMD Vega 3 on 2 dp 1.4}} || <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ALC623 codec}} || <!--USB-->USB3 USB 3.2 Gen 2 front and 3 usb2 rear || <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2020 64bit Ryzen Embedded R1606G - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - TPM 2.0 - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ====HP Compaq==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Compaq presario 7360 | <!--IDE-->{{yes|Working}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|AC97 via}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|issues}} | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Compaq EP Series 6400/10 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{N/A}} | <!--Audio--> {{no|ISA}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB 1.1}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{N/A}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Compaq Evo D510 | {{yes|Working}} | {{N/A}} | {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | {{yes|AC97}} | {{yes|Working}} | {{yes|Intel PRO/100}} | Icaros 1.5 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Compaq DX2000 MT | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Intel Extreme 2 (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|detects AC97 but no support for ADI AD1888 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|OHCI/EHCI }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82526EZ e1000}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.51 | <!--Comments-->boots ok but no audio |- | <!--Name-->Compaq DX 2200 | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200] (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{dunno|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|OHCI/EHCI issues }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} | <!--Test Distro--> {{dunno}} | <!--Comments-->issues |- | <!--Name--> d230 | <!--IDE--> {{yes|UDMA}} | <!--SATA--> {{N/A}} | <!--Gfx--> {{partial|Intel Extreme (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio--> {{partial|Intel AC97 (speaker and headphones only, no line-out)}} | <!--USB--> {{yes|USB}} | <!--Ethernet--> {{Maybe|Broadcom BCM4401}} | <!--Test Distro--> Icaros 1.4.5 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->HP Pavilion a220n || <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} || <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|VESA 1024x768 on nVidia GF4 MX with 64MB shared video ram}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ALC650 AC'97 comp.}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2.0}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8201BL 10/100 LAN}} || <!--Test Distro-->AROS One 2.5|| <!--Comments-->2004 32bit athlon xp 2600+ Socket 462 / Socket A - 2 dimm ddr pc2700 - |- | <!--Name-->t500 | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|FX5200 (2D; 3D with older driver)}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97 ICH4 ALC658D}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|UHCI/EHCI}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8101L 8139}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2012-09-22 | <!--Comments-->2004 |- | <!--Name-->DC7700 | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 2D}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes| ICH8}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|82566DM e1000e}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2013-??-?? | <!--Comments-->2006 Some support at low cost |- | <!--Name-->HP dc 7600 CMT | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ACL 260}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO/1000 GT}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP t5000 thin client series t5500 t5510 t5515 PC538A or PC542A t5700 t5710 Transmeta Crusoe Code Morphing TM 5400 5600 800Mhz | <!--IDE-->128mb to 512MB | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->Ati Radeon 7000M | <!--Audio-->VIA with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|Issues}} | <!--Ethernet-->VIA Rhine 2 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2006 32bit - ddr max 1GB - F10 setup - all t51xx and some t55xx units will not include a SODIMM slot - |- | <!--Name-->HP t5000 thin client series CN700 *HSTNC-002L-TC t5135, t5530 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d 128Mb Via S3 1600 x 1200 32-bit colour | <!--Audio-->AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102 VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit t5135 appears identical to the t5530 except the CPU VIA Esther 400 MHz - RAM 64Mb (? max) - 8 x USB2.0 - 12V 3.33A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm |- | <!--Name-->HP t5720, t5725 HSTNC-001L-TC | <!--IDE-->{{unk| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VESA 2d SiS741GX 2048 x 1536 32-bit colour | <!--Audio-->AC97 SiS SiS7012 AC'97 | <!--USB-->6 x USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102 VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 8d) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit AMD Geode NX1500 1GHz socketed - RAM 512MB or 1GB, 256MB, 512MB or 1GB - 12V psu - sis DDMA support - custom 1.13 BIOS - pci low profile - |- | <!--Name-->t5000 series VX800 HSTNC-004-TC t5145, t5540, t5545, t5630 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d VIA Chrome9 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio VIA | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|VT6120 VT6121 VT6122 Gigabit (rev 82)}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit - RAM 64Mb (? max) - 8 x USB2.0 - 12V 4.16A Coax: 5.5mm/2.1mm - |- | <!--Name-->t5730w HSTNC-003-TC t5730 | <!--IDE-->{{n/a|ATA 44pin DOM Flash}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d ATI Radeon X1250 2048 x 1536 no 3D | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{Yes|6 x USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 5707M tg3 10/100/1000}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 64bit AMD Sempron 2100+ 1GHz - 1 slot of ddr2 sodimm (Max 2GB) - 12V 4.16A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm - F10 enter bios F12 boot devices - |- | <!--Name-->HSTNC-005-TC gt7720, gt7725 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d AMD RS780G HD 3200 - 2560 x 1600 DVI-D & DVI-H | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->8 x USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5787M}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit AMD Turion Dual Core CPU 2.3GHz - 1 DDR2 200-pin SODIMM - 19V 4.16A Coax 7.4mm/5.0mm (gt7725) - |- | <!--Name-->HP t5740 Thin Client HSTNC-006-TC t5740, t5745, st5742 | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->1 port | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Intel CL40 VGA and DisplayPort connectors}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with IDT codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM57780 Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly build and Icaros | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit Atom N280 - F10 on power up to get into the BIOS screens. F12 brings up the boot options - hp 19V one with a coax connector, outer diameter 4.8mm with inner to be 1.7mm to 1.4mm - 2 ddr3 sodimm slots max 3gb due to 32bit - 1 pci-e slot completely non standard - |- | <!--Name-->t5000 series HSTNC-012-TC VIA Nano u3500 VX900 *t5550 512MB/1GB Windows CE6 R3 *t5565 1GB/1GB HP ThinPro *t5570 2GB/1GB WES 2009 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vesa 2d VIA ChromotionHD 2.0 GPU Chrome9 | <!--Audio-->VIA 9170 VT1708S codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM57780 Gigabit}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->32bit - 1 sodimm - 19V 3.42A supply connector standard yellow-tip coax plug 4.8mm/1.8mm "Standard HP Compaq DC Power Plug 4.8mm x 1.5mm / 1.7mm Yellow Tip Connector - |- | <!--Name-->HP t510 Via Eden X2 U4200 HSTNC-012-TC shares features with t5570e, t5565z | <!--IDE-->2G ATA Flash DOM | <!--SATA-->one | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d for Chrome9 VIA ChromotionHD 2.0 gfx}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|VIA VT8237A VT8251 HDA with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|6 USB2 }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit - one slot ddr3 sodimm max 4GB - 19V 3.42A Coax 4.8mm/1.8mm - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP T610 Thin Client and thicker PLUS version AMD G-T56N A55E | <!--IDE-->{{Maybe|}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 6320 1 dp port 1 dvi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->two USB2 on the front, two USB2 and two USB 3 ports on the rear | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM57780}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 64bit does not support AVX SSE 4.1 - 2 204-pin DDR3 1600MHz SODIMMs PC3-12800 under motherboard via removable panel - 19.5V 3A Coax male 7.4mm/5.0mm + centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP T420 Thin Client *AMD Embedded G-Series GX-209JA SOC (1 GHz, 2 cores) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 8180 dvi vga | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->2 front 2 rear USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2015 64bit supports AVX SSE 4.1 - soldered in place 2GB DDR3 - smaller than usual 19.5V 2.31A Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - usb stick internal for storage - E15 BBR - |- | <!--Name-->HP t520 TPC-W016 *AMD GX-212JC 1.2Ghz (2 core) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 m.2 mounting holes for 2242 and 2260 SSDs SATA (not NVME) | <!--Gfx-->Radeon R2E GCN2 IGP Sea Islands | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->2 USB3 front, 4 USB2 back | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 2017 64 bit supports AVX SSE 4.1 - 1 204-pin DDR3 SODIMM - 19.5V 3.33A 7.4mm Coax with central pin |- | <!--Name-->HP t620 TPC-I004-TC *AMD G-Series GX-217GA 2 core APU 1.65GHz (65W) *AMD GX-415GA (65W) and t620 PLUS (PRO wider version) TPC-I020-TC *AMD GX-420CA SOC (Plus 85W) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->single M.2 2280 socket sata3, mSATA socket removed end of 2014, | <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 8280E graphics 8330E Islands GCN2 IGP - 2 dp ports no dvi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->4 front, 2 back, 1 inside limited space | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit supports AVX SSE 4.1 - 2 DDR3L SODIMMs side by side - mSATA ssd and M.2 SSD are M1.6 screws, M2.0 screws used on most SSDs - 19.5V 3.33A Coax male 7.4mm 5mm with centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP T530 *AMD GX-215JJ (2 core) 1.5GHz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 m.2 sata ssd up to 2280 | <!--Gfx-->Radeon R2E | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec | <!--USB-->1 USB3.1, 1 usb-c front, 4 USB2 back | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2015 64 bit does support AVX SSE 4.1 - 1 204-pin DDR4 SODIMM - smaller 19.5V 2.31A Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP T730 Wider "Thin" Client TPC-I018-TC Pixar RX-427BB (2c4t) - no display and fans blowing full speed caused by '''disabling internal gpu in bios''' flash L43_0116.bin onto smc MX25L6473F (3.3V 8-PIN SOP (200mil) SPI 25xx) ([https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubleshooting-hardware-devices-and-electronics-theory/troubleshooting-desktop-motherboards-graphics-cards-and-pc-peripherals/bios-schematic-requests/96303-hp-t730-password-locked-bios in the rom rcvry socket under a delicate thin narrow surface flap]) with ch341a alike switchable from 5v, 3.3v to 1.8v | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{partial|Storage bios option to IDE and not AHCI to prevent constant install error messages to DH0: - add noacpi to end of grub boot line - 1 M.2 SATA slot (Key B+M) up to 2280 with T8 torx secure stub}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use VESA for non-vulkan Radeon R7 GCN 2 UVD4.2 Sea Islands with 4 dp outs '''but too easy bricking''' if swapping with 1 PCIe 3.0 x8 slot 30W slim factor low profile 8400gs gt210 nvs295 nvs310 gt1030}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDaudio 6.34 realtek alc221 codec thru case speaker only}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|'''Works''' for 4 USB2 in the back with 2 in the front but '''not''' for 2 USB3 ports on front and 1 more internal (not bootable)}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111HSH-CG set up first in Prefs/Network}} | <!--Test Distro-->boots with most AROS One 32bit USB with added noacpi added to grub boot - Latest distros can select grub boot options with Aros One 64bit USB and Aros One USB 2.8 but system seems to freeze after choice | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit supports AVX SSE 4.1 - 2 DDR3L sodimm stacked slots max 32GB - '''Larger''' 20cm/8" high 3.5ltr case noisy fan - TPM2 - esc/F9 boot selector F10 enter bios - 2 serial and 1 parallel old ports - Key E Wireless - PCIe slot (x16 physical, x8 electrical) - 19.5V 4.36A 85w TPC-LA561 HP 7.4mm black-ring-tip power plug, red flashing power button, wrong psu or bad MotherBoard MB - |- | <!--Name-->HP t630 Thin Client TPC-I020-TC *AMD Embedded G-Series SoC GX-420GI quad core 2Ghz | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|ahci.device 2 Sata M.2, sata0 up to 2280 (1tb max), sata1 2242 (64gb max), both T8 torx secure stubs}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|use VESA for Radeon AMD Wani R7E with 2 displayport 1.2 sockets - no dvi / hdmi}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio 6.34 VOID for controller 0x1022 0x157a and not detected ALC255 codec x10ec x0255 aka ALC3234, pins 0x17 as LFE and 0x1b as int speaker}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2 2 front and 2 rear but not 2 front USB3 and 1 inside}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169 8111H}} | <!--Test Distro-->AROS One USB 2.2 | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit supports AVX SSE 4.1 - 2 DDR4 SODIMMs side by side speed 1866Mhz limit - 19.5V 3.33A 65W TPC-BA54 Coax male 7.4mm with centre pin - can be easily bricked, might reflash bios with M40 SP149736 - 20cm/8" high 1.5ltr larger fanless case - esc f1 f9 f10 - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq Elite 7200 7300 8200 8300 SFF with kettle IEC psu cable | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE ata legacy only in BIOS}} | <!--Gfx-->i pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|8200 works}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel or Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2013 64bit dual core - add pci-e rtl8169 ethernet card and pci-e gf210 nvidia low height - |- | <!--Name-->HP Compaq Pro 6305 Small Form Factor SFF AMD A75 chipset (FCH 6 SATA 6 Gb/s, 4 USB 3.0) *AMD Quad A10-5800B *AMD A8-5500B *AMD Dual A6-5400B *AMD A4-5300B | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 7000 Terascale iGPU series Radeon HD 7660D, Radeon HD 7560D, Radeon HD 7540D, Radeon HD 7480D | <!--Audio-->HD ALC221 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom 5761}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Elitedesk 705 G1 - SFF *AMD A10-8850B, Quad-Core A10 PRO-7850B, A10-8750B *AMD A10-7800B, A10 PRO-6800B, A8-7600B *AMD A8-8650B, A6-8550B *AMD A6-8350B, Dual A6 PRO 7400B, A4-7300B | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA 2D with Radeon R7 or 8000}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD audio with Realtek ALC221 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom or Intel}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit - T15 security torx psu with 6pin PWR 200W connector - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteDesk 705 G2, 705 G3 Mini PC USFF thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2.5in and m.2 | <!--Gfx-->Radeon R7 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom BCM5762 GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit AM4 socket with 35W TDP A10-8770E (4c), AMD PRO A6-8570E (2c), AMD Pro A6-9500E, or AMD PRO A10-9700E on AMD B300 FCH - ddr4 sodimm slots - 77 x 175 x 34mm (6.97 x 6.89 x 1.34in) 1L and about 3lbs - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteDesk 705 G4 Mini 1ltr USFF AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (4c t) or 5 2400G (4c t) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Nvme 2280 and 2.5in sata}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 thru DP1.2 port | <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio Conexant codec}} | <!--USB-->USB2 usb3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit Am4 socket - 2 sodimm 16GB max - 19.5v hp socket ext psu - |- | <!--Name-->Elitedesk 705 G4 35w, Elitedesk 705 G4 65w, HP Prodesk 405 G4 35W USFF - AMD Athlon PRO 200GE (2c 4t), 2200GE (4c t) or 2400GE (4c t) on AMD B350 FCH, Elitedesk 705 G5 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|Nvme 2280 and older models 2.5in sata}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 3, 8 or 11 with 2 dp1.2 ports | <!--Audio-->HD audio with Conexant CX20632 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111EPH 1Gbe or Realtek RTL8111F | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2017 64bit - realtek wifi 8821 or 8822 - up to 1 ddr4 dimm slots - 12v up to 180w ac - |- | <!--Name-->HP Elitedesk 806 G6, Prodesk 405 G6 3400GE Ryzen 5 PRO 3350GE (4c 8t), Ryzen 3 PRO 3200GE 3150GE (4c 4t), AMD Athlon Silver PRO 3125GE (2c 4t) on AMD PRO 565 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->2x NVMe or 1x SATA + 1x NVMe, but not all three drives at the same time without serious modding of hd caddie || <!--Gfx-->Vega with DP1.4 port || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC3205 codec || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->HP t540 1ddr4 slot, t640 2 DDR4 SDRAM sodimm SO-DIMM 260-pin non-ECC max 32gb thin client USFF | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 NVM Express (NVMe) 2230 or 2280 | <!--Gfx-->Vega 3 VGA, DisplayPort | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->2 USB3 gen1 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek Realtek RTL8111HSH or RTL8111E PH-CG | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit ryzen r1000 series Ryzen Embedded R1305G 1.5 GHz, R1505G dual (2c 4t) 2.0Ghz or R1606G ?.?Ghz (2c4t) - Realtek RTL8852AE wifi - 45W psu Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - |- | <!--Name-->HP t740 SFF Thin Client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 M.2, one is sata and other nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 DisplayPort or + optional pci-e 30W Radeon E9173 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E PH-CG 1Gbe | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - Ryzen Embedded V1756B 3.25Ghz quad - 90W 19.5V 4.62A psu Coax male 4.5mm/3.0mm + centre pin - sodimm DDR4 max 64Gb - slightly noisy fan - |- | <!--Name-->HP EliteDesk 805 G6 Mini 4750GE (8t 16t), Prodesk 405 G6 Ryzen 5 PRO 4650GE (6c 12t) or Ryzen 3 PRO 4350GE (4c 8t) on AMD PRO 565 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2.5in carrier and 2 slots m.2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 with DP1.4 and HDMI flex io2 output options | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC3205 codec | <!--USB-->4 usb a - gen 2 10gig and gen 1 5gig ports | <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit AMD Ryzen 4000 SBC unlocked - 2 sodimm ddr4 slots - wifi6 - 90W ac - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- |} ====Lenovo==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Lenovo Nettop IdeaCentre Q150 (40812HU) | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio--> realtek codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->intel 10/100 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit D510 |- | <!--Name-->M625q Tiny (1L) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->M.2 Sata | <!--Gfx-->Stoney Radeon R2, R3 or R4 and later R5 with 2 dp ports | <!--Audio-->HD audio with ALC233-VB2-CG codec 0x10EC 0x0233 | <!--USB-->{{No|3 usb3.1 Gen 1 and 3 usb2}} | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 RTL8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit all dual cores - e2-9000e or a4-9120e later A9-9420e - heatsink covers 70% area covers wifi - 65w or 135w lenovo rectangle ac - 1 ddr4 2666MHz slot max 8gb - tpm 2.0 - |- | <!--Name-->M715q Gen 1 AMD A6 A8 A10-9700E 9770E (2c2t) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 | <!--Gfx-->R4 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->M715q Gen 2 Ryzen 5 PRO 2400GE 4C 8T | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 | <!--Gfx-->Vega 11 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - f1 enter setup, esc device boot - fixed 1.8v ch341a needed to reflash 1.8v bios if no boot SOP8 DIP8 Winbond W25Q64, MXIC MX25U1635, MX25U6435 - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkCenter M75n nano Ryzen3 3300U | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->ThinkCentre M75q M75q-1 Tiny 1ltr TMM AMD Ryzen 5 PRO Quad 3500 Pro 3400GE (4c 8t) 11a5 soe400, 3200GE (2c 4t) zen1+ 11a4 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|NVMe 2280 1Tb max - untested 2.5inch}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 11 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio codec | <!--USB-->3 USB3 Gen 1 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2019 64bit - 65w 20v 3.25A to 135W rectangle psu - 2 sodimm ddr4 sodimm max 32GB locked 2666MHz - |- | <!--Name-->ThinkCentre Ryzen 7 PRO Tiny 1ltr Gen 2 AMD 4000 series 4650GE (6c12t) 4750GE (8c16t) 4350G (4c8t) Zen2 - | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|NVme}} | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8169 8111 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit vendor locked - 20v psu - 2 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Thinkcenter M75q-2 Gen2 refresh | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Radeon Vega | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GigE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 5650GE (6c12t) 5750GE (8c16t) - vendor/PSB can lock your AMD CPU - f12 boot devices |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Thinkcentre M75q Tiny Gen5 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} | <!--SATA-->2 NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 780M dp1.4a or hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 usb-c | <!--Ethernet-->1GBe port | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2024 Ryzen PRO 7 8700GE - 90W yellow rectangle connector psu - 2 DDR5 sodimm slots max 128Gb - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |} ====Misc==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->Impart impact Media Group IQ Box mini Digital Signage with MB896 mini itx | <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->GMA 915 gme | <!--Audio--> via audio | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - 1 ddr2 slot - pentium m 1.73GHz - |- | <!--Name-->[https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_mini/specs/mac_mini_cd_1.83-specs.html Apple A1176 Intel MacMini1,1] | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{unk|gpt/efi }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|gma950 2d and 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ICH7 [https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/186749 Sigmatel Stac 9221] [https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/msm/+/android-wear-5.1.1_r0.6/sound/pci/hda/patch_sigmatel.c codec][https://alsa-devel.alsa-project.narkive.com/Yt20W6cE/sigmatel-stac9221-mux-amp-out-0x02-microphone-not-working mic]}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2006 32bit possible 1.83 GHz Intel “Core Duo” (T2400) - swap pci-e wifi for atheros 5k AR5007EG - maybe hack with a 2,1 firmware - max 4GB Ram ddr2 sodimms - external apple psu - dvd boot only with c key - |- | <!--Name-->[https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_mini/specs/mac-mini-core-2-duo-1.83-specs.html Apple A1176 Intel Mac Mini2,1] | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{unk|gpt/efi }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|gma950 2d and 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio with ICH7 Sigmatel Stac 9221 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell}} | <!--Test Distro-->Aros One 2.0/ Icaros (latest beta) | <!--Comments-->2007 64bit - swap pci-e wifi for atheros 5k AR5007EG - hacked with a 2,1 firmware and replaced the cpu for T7600 2.33 Ghz C2D and max 4GB Ram ddr2 sodimms - external apple psu - dvd boot only via c key |- | <!--Name-->Apple iMac 5,1 "Core 2 Duo" 1.83GHz 17" T5600 MA710LL || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->GMA 950 with 64Mb || <!--Audio-->HDAudio idt codec || <!--USB-->3 USB2 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit - 2 ddr2 667MHz sodimm slots - 17.0" TFT widescreen 1440x900 - polycarbonate |- | <!--Name-->Apple iMac 6,1 "Core 2 Duo" 2.16 2.33 24" only T7400 T7600 aka MA456LL/A A1200 (EMC 2111) || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Nvidia 7300GT with 128 MB of GDDR3 SDRAM PCI Express or GeForce 7600GT with 256Mb mini dvi, vga || <!--Audio-->HDAudio || <!--USB-->3 USB2 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2006 64bit - 2 ddr2 667MHz sodimm slots - 24.0" TFT widescreen 1920 x 1200 - polycarbonate plastic case iMacs of this generation are the most difficult iMacs to service due to their front bezel design |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA2 | <!--IDE-->flash "DiskOnModule" | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->S3 Inc ProSavage PM133 (rev 02) vga | <!--Audio-->VIA VT82C686 AC97 Audio | <!--USB-->USB | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8139 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2003 32bit - VIA Ezra 800MHz - 2 PC100 sodimm slots - riser board carries an ISA slot and a PCI slot - external 12V power supply.with 4 pins - |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA5 Capio One | <!--IDE-->44pin DiskOnModule | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->SiS550 vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with SiS7019 codec | <!--USB-->USB1.1 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8139 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2004 32bit - internal power supply with mains lead has a "clover leaf" style - 2 144-pin PC100 or PC133 SODIMM might have 24MB of RAM soldered - |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA10 *E140 model BL-XX-XX (800MHz CPU) later *E100 model BK-XX-XX (1GHz CPU) | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA VT8623 (Apollo CLE266) vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with | <!--USB-->4 USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102/VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 74) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2004/5 32bit - 12v 5.5mm/2.1mm - 2 184-pin DDR DIMM - |- | <!--Name-->VXL Itona thin client *TC3200, *TC3x41 (P3VB-VXL) TC3541 TC3641 TC3841, *TC3xx1 (6VLE-VXL0) TC3931, *TC43xx (Gigabyte C7V7VX) TC4321 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA vga | <!--Audio-->AC'97 Audio with VIA VT | <!--USB-->VIA USB | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8100B | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2005 2006 32bit VIA Samuel 2, VIA C3 Nehamiah CPU, 1 DIMM slot, internal psu, |- | <!--Name-->Neoware Capio C50, model CA15 Thin Clients] *Login Administrator Password Administrator *Login User Password User | <!--IDE-->1 flash DiskOnModule | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA VT8623 (Apollo CLE266) vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with via codec | <!--USB-->USB | <!--Ethernet-->VIA | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2006 32bit VIA Eden (Samuel II core) CPU - 1 ddr sodimm slot max 512mb - slot - internal psu clover leaf - |- | <!--Name-->[http://etoy.spritesmind.net/neowareca21.html Neoware CA21 Thin Clients] Igel 3210 (and maybe the Clientron G270) *Login Administrator Password Administrator *Login User Password User | <!--IDE-->1 flash DiskOnModule | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA CN700 vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with via codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit VIA C3 Nehemiah instead of Ezra-T - made 2 version of the CA 21, one with an Award bios and one with a Phoenix bios - 1 ddr2 sodimm slot max 1gb - VT6656 wireless - slot - internal psu iec - |- | <!--Name-->Neoware CA22 (e140), part number DD-L2-GE with BCOM WinNET P680 (V4) as the Igel 4210LX (Igel 5/4) | <!--IDE-->1 VIA VT82C586A/B VT82C686/A/B VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->VIA CN700 P4M800 Pro CE VN800 Graphics [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01) vga | <!--Audio-->AC97 with codec | <!--USB-->USB2 VIA VT8237R Plus | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6102/VT6103 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2007 32bit - VIA Esther to later C7 1GHz - 1 ddr2 sodimm slots max 512mb - +12V DC/4.16A/50W 5.5mm/2.1mm coaxial - |- | <!--Name-->10Zig RBT402, Clientron U700, | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|44 pin header very little room}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A|}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Partial|VESA dvi}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|VIA }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2008 32bit - very small cases with very limited expansion - 1 sodimm 2GB max - 12v 3a psu - Password Fireport |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Dell Optiplex FX170 D05U thin client, 10Zig 56xx range 5602, 5616v, 5617v, 5672v, Clientron U800, Devon IT TC5, | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|44 pin header very little room}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A|}} | <!--Gfx-->{{partial|GMA 950 dvi}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->Icaros 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit - very small cases with very limited expansion - 1 ddr2 sodimm 2GB max - 12v 3a psu - Password Fireport - ps2 keyboard socket - |- | <!--Name-->10Zig RBT-616V or Chip PC Technologies EX-PC (model number XPD4741) | <!--IDE-->{{unk|44 pin header very little room}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A|}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA 950}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|HD Audio with codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|rtl8169}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit N270 on NM10 with ICH7 - very small cases with very limited expansion - 1 sodimm 2GB max - 12v 4a psu - Password Fireport |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Brix GS-A21S-RH (rev. 1.0) SFF | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|X3100}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio with ALC883-GR codec}} | <!--USB-->Intel USB | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82566DC}} | <!--Test Distro-->ICAROS 2.3 | <!--Comments-->2009 64bit Intel GME965 chipset with Intel ICH8M - 2 DDR2 Dimm slots - GA-6KIEH2-RH Rev.1.x mini ITX Case 213mm(D) x 64mm(W) x 234mm(H) - custom psu - |- | <!--Name-->VXL Itona MD+24 MD27 MD54 MD64 MD76 thin client | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->VIA Chrome 9 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA VT | <!--USB-->VIA | <!--Ethernet-->VIA | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit VIA X2 U4200 - 12v-19v barrel psu - |- | <!--Name-->Acer Revo 100 RL100 AMD Athlon II X2 K325 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® ION™ 9300m || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC662 codec || <!--USB-->USB2 1 front 2 back || <!--Ethernet-->NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2010 64bit but no AVX - 4Gb DDR3 sodimm - 500 GB - 19v 3.42a 65W - dvd but later BD drive - |- | <!--Name-->Asrock ION 330 330Pro HT-BD, Foxconn NT-330i, Zotac ION F (IONITX mini itx), | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ION geforce 9400}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe| }} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|Nvidia USB}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Nvidia }} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 32bit slow atom cpu - 2.5L 8" by 8" plastic case - 2 ddr2 sodimm max 4G - external 19v 65W 3.42A Plug 5.5mm X 2.5mm - little whiny fan - |- | <!--Name-->Zotac ZBOXHD-ND01 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION1 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->NVidia | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2009 32bit |- | <!--Name-->Zotac ZBOX HD-ID11 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with ALC888 codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111D | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2010 |- | <!--Name-->ZOTAC ZBOX Blu-ray 3D ID36 Plus | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->sata | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->2 USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->GbE | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Shuttle XS35GT || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ION || <!--Audio-->HD audio IDT92HD81 || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|JMC261}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - Atom™ D510 NM10 - DDR2 |- | <!--Name-->Shuttle XS35GT V2 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ION2 || <!--Audio-->HD audio IDT92HD81 || <!--USB-->Intel || <!--Ethernet-->{{No|JMC251}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit Atom™ D525 NM10 chipset - DDR3 |- | <!--Name-->Sapphire Edge-HD || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->ION2 GT218 with vga and hdmi || <!--Audio-->HDAudio realtek codec || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{Unk|Realtek}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit - Atom™ D510 NM10 - DDR2 65 W AC, DC 19V~3.42A, 19.3L x 14.8w x 2.2H cm (1l), weight 530g, |- | <!--Name-->Sapphire Edge-HD2 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE mode}} || <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|nouveau ION2 GT218 with vga and hdmi 2d and 3d}} || <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HDAudio}} || <!--USB-->{{Yes|Intel USB2}} || <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2011 64bit Atom™ D525 NM10 chipset - DDR3 |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.jetwaycomputer.com/JBC600C99352W.html Jetway JBC600C99352W] | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->ION2 | <!--Audio-->{{No|C-Media CM108AH}} | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111DL | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2011 64bit D525 - DDR3 - 12v psu |- | <!--Name-->Foxconn nT-A3550 A3500 AMD A45 Chipset DDR3 Nettop Barebones - White | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 slot | <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon HD6310 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 USB2 back and 2 USB3 front | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD Dual-core E350 1.6GHz CPU - 1 ddr3 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Asus EeeBox PC EB1021 || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD6320M || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC codec || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE1 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit - AMD® Brazos E-350 SFF or E-450 with A50M - 2 ddr3l so-dimm - 40W ac - |- | <!--Name-->Xi3 Piston PC Athlon64 X2 3400e (X5A), AMD R-464L quad (X7A) Z3RO NUC | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->AMD mobility HD3650 to radeon HD 7660G | <!--Audio--> codec | <!--USB-->4 USB2 3 USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros AR8161}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 - 2 sodimm 8GB max - 19v 3.3a round - Titan105 bios update - |- | <!--Name-->Sapphire Edge-HD3 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD6320M with vga and hdmi || <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC662 codec || <!--USB-->USB2 || <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE1 || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD® Brazos E-450 with A45M - ddr3l so-dimm - 65W ac - Wireless is Realtek 8191SU WiFi (802.11n) or AzureWave (802.11bgn) - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->Samsung Syncmaster Thin Client Display TC-W Series 24" LF24 TOWHBFM/EN TC220W LED LF22TOW HBDN/EN || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->8gb SSD || <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe| VESA mode only Radeon HD 6290}} || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB-->2 USB 2.0 || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 thin Client C-50 C50 AMD® 1000 MHz and no wireless |- | <!--Name-->Advantech TPC-2140 thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 atom-like G-T56E 1.65Ghz up to SSE3, BGA413 soldered - |- | <!--Name-->CompuLab FIT-PC3 fitPC3 USFF PC AMD G-T56N || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} || <!--Gfx-->RADEON HD 6320 || <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio ALC888 codec}} || <!--USB-->{{yes| }} || <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 8111}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2012 64 bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - 12v 3a - 2x sodimm DDR3 max 4GB - wifi rtl8188ce |- | <!--Name-->10Zig 6872 thin client | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA }} | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 atom-like G-T56N up to SSE3 BGA413 (FT1) soldered - DDR3l single channel - |- | <!--Name-->10ZiG 7800q thin client | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->AMD Radeon 5E 3840 x 2160 @ 30Hz to 2560 x 1600 @ 60Hz 2 x Display Port | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->6 x USB2.0 2 x USB3.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit does support AVX or SSE 4.1 AMD GX-424CC (Quad Core) 2.4GHz BGA769 (FT3b) SSE4 and AVX - 1 ddr3 sodimm - 12V 4A Coax 5.5mm/2.1mm |- | <!--Name--> *Itona VXL MZE12 AMD a4-5000 thin client *VXL Itona LQ27 LQ+27 LQ44 LQ+44 LQ49 LQ+49 LQ50 LQ+50 LQ64 LQ+64 thin client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Ati 8330 vga hdmi dp | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->4 usb2 2 usb3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2014 64bit quad BGA769 (FT3) soldered - 2 stacked sodimm ddr3 middle of mobo - 2 m.2 sata slots - 1 sata short cable half size space - limited 1ltr 8in case no fan - 19v hp style psu connector - |- | <!--Name-->Dell Wyse 5212 21.5" AIO Thin Client W11B | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Sata | <!--Gfx-->R3 out from DP or vga | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2015 64bit slow atom like dual core AMD G-T48E 1.4 GHz - dell type round ac needed 90W 19.5V 4.62A - 21 inch 1080p screen - |- | <!--Name-->LG 24CK560N-3A 24' All-in-One Thin Client Monitor, 27CN650N-6N 27CN650W-AC 27', 34CN650W-AC 34', | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2018 64bit AMD Prairie Falcon GX-212JJ |- | <!--Name-->CompuLab fit-PC4 fitPC4 4x 2Ghz AMD || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel}} || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2018 64 - 2x DDR4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->IGEL Hedgehog M340C UD3 thin client *2016 V1.0 AMD GX-412HC 1.2GHz-1.6GHz Radeon R3E, normal bios DEL for Bios or F12 boot selector *2018 AMD GX-424CC 2.4GHz, Radeon R5E, UEFI hit DEL and choose boot or SCU icon | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA-->SATA half slim version '''limited space''' with msata slot on earlier 2016 models | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|VESA for Radeon R3E later R5E sea islands vulkan 1.2 with dvi dp output}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with codec ?? (412) and Realtek ALC662-VD0-GR (424), both case speaker}} | <!--USB-->amd usb3 boot usb2 with bios "disable usb" entry | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8169 8111 (412) and (424)}} | <!--Test Distro-->Aros One x86 USB 1.5, 1.8 and 2.2 | <!--Comments-->2016 64bit - 20cm/8" high case - 1 DDR3L sodimm slot max 8Gb 1600MHz - external '''12V 3A''' supply with 5.5mm/2.1mm coaxial - IDE like interface under base stand is for legacy addon ports RS232 parallel etc - capacitive touch power on - case opening 3 stages, remove stand and narrow black plastic strip from the back, top cover slides off to the back and lifts off - |- | <!--Name--> || <!--IDE--> || <!--SATA--> || <!--Gfx--> || <!--Audio--> || <!--USB--> || <!--Ethernet--> || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name-->IGEL UD3 M350C (UEFI issues) | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->None but 8gb emmc | <!--Gfx-->Vega 3 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with Realtek ALC897 or ALC888S codec | <!--USB-->USB 3.2 and 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2018 64bit - AMD Ryzen™ R R1505G Dual-Core 10W TDP - 2 DDR4 sodimms slots max 16Gb - 12V 4A psu - 2x DisplayPort 1.2 no dvi or hdmi - Intel® 9260 or SparkLAN WNFT-238AX wifi - 1x rear serial Prolific PL2303 chipset - locked down components and very limited expansion options - |- | <!--Name-->IGEL UD7 H860C AMD Ryzen V1605B Thin Client | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 AMD Ryzen™ Embedded V1605B 2 – 3.6 GHz (Quad-Core) - 12v 5A psu - up to 16GB RAM DDR4 - locked down components and very limited expansion options - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Brix Barebone Mini PC BSRE-1605 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 M.2 | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC269 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->2 GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit AMD Ryzen V1605B - 2 DDR4 sodimm slots |- | <!--Name-->EliteGroup LIFA Q3 Plus | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit AMD Ryzen Embedded V1000, V1605B - |- | <!--Name-->MINISFORUM Deskmini UM250 Mini PC | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit AMD Ryzen V1605B - |- | <!--Name-->Shuttle DA320 | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->R3 R5 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC662 codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->dual realtek 1GbE 8111H | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Opinion-->2017 64bit AMD 2200G 2400G - Robust metal 1.3-liter case - A320 chipset DDR4 - 19V 6.32A DC PSU - |- | <!--Name-->T-Bao MN25 Mini PC 2500U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Unk|Intel NVMe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{No|VESA Radeon Vega 8}} | <!--Audio-->{{Unk| }} | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek PCIe 1GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Minis Forum M200 Silver Athlon M300 3300U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1 and 2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek PCIe 2.5G}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Minis Forum DeskMini UM300 3300U, UM350 DMAF5 3550H, UM370 and UM700 with 3750H | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1 and 2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek PCIe 2.5G}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit |- | <!--Name-->MinisForum X300 with AMD 3400G | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB 3.1 gen 1 and 2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek PCIe 2.5G}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Beelink SER3 GTR4 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega 3 or 10 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RJ45 1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2020 64bit 3200u or 3750h |- | <!--Name-->Beelink SER4 GTR5 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->cant boot from installed SSDs unless its an M.2 | <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->1 or 2 Realtek | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2021 64bit 4700U or 5900HX |- | <!--Name-->MSI PRO DP20Z 5M Mini PC - AMD Ryzen 5 5300G | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 2.5G LAN RTL8125}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->R3 3200G Vega 8 - R5 3400G Vega 11 - Ryzen 5 5600G Vega 7 - Athlon 3000G |- | <!--Name-->Minisforum UM450 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 2.5G LAN RTL8125}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - Ryzen 4500U - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Brix GB-BRR7-4800 (rev. 1.0) GB-BRR7-4700 (rev. 1.0) GB-BRR5-4500 (rev. 1.0) GB-BRR3-4300 (rev. 1.0) | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{No|}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 2.5G LAN RTL8125 | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS PN50 mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 4700U | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|3.1 gen1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|realtek 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS PN51-S1 mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 5700U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Vega thru dp or hdmi | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|3.1 gen1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|realtek 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 19v or 19.5v 90w psu round barrel - 32gb ddr4 sodimm - |- | <!--Name-->Minis Forum Bessstar Tech EliteMini B550 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 x 2.5in and 2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{no|4 usb3.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|realtek 8125 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit AMD 4700G 5700G desktop cpu - 19v 120w round barrel - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock A300 and later X300 Mini itx with Desktop AM4 socket | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->1GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - choose your own AMD APU GE 35w based - DDR4 - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock 4x4 BOX-5800U Zen 3-based AMD Ryzen 7 5800U 15W - | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->m.2 slot gen 3 and sata | <!--Gfx-->vega | <!--Audio-->HD audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|1 GbE and 1 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - WiFi 6E - |- | <!--Name-->Topton S500+ Gaming Mini PC - Morefine S500+ 5900HX Mini PC - Minisforum UM590 Ryzen AMD Zen3 Ryzen 9 5900HX 7 5800H 45W - | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme 1 sata | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 thru HDMI 2.0, DP 1.4, and USB type-C | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->{{no|usb3.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|1 realtek rtl 8111h and 1 8125 2.5GbE bg-cg}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - 2 sodimm ddr4 3200MHz - |- | <!--Name-->Chuwi RzBox later Ubox | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega 8 later to 660m vga, dp, hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB-->{{No|usb-c usb2}} | <!--Ethernet-->dual gigabit | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 2025 64bit amd 5800h 4800h 6600H - 90w psu - |- | <!--Name-->Beelink Mini PC SER5, Trigkey AZW S5, Asus PN52, ZHI BEN MX-JB560, | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->PCIe3 M.2 2280 nvme | <!--Gfx-->AMD Vega 6 with 1 or 2 hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->{{No|USB3.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 1GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 5500U 5560u 5600U to PRO 5600H 5800H - 19v 3.42W 65W psu - |- | <!--Name-->NIPOGI Kamrui ACEMAGICIAN AM06PRO Dual LAN Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, 5 5500U or 5600U/5625U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->M.2 and 2.5in sata | <!--Gfx-->Vega 7 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->2 GbE ports | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - plastic build - 90w usb-c power - loud at 25W setting - |- | <!--Name-->Topton FU02 Fanless Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 4700U 5600U 5800U 8 Core 16 Threads | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe and 2.5in sata | <!--Gfx-->Vega | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->4 3.0 with 2 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->2 x 1G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64 - 2 ddr4 sodimm slots - fanless with copper cube from cpu to metal sheet which gets warm |- | <!--Name-->Xuu XR1 Lite (5300u 4c 8t) PRO 5400U MAX 5600U | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 NVMe 2242 slot | <!--Gfx-->Vega 6 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->2 3.0 | <!--Ethernet-->1G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64 quiet fan - very small case no expansions - |- | <!--Name-->MINISFORUM UM690 Venus Series | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->pcie4 nvme 2280 and 1 sata3 2.5in | <!--Gfx-->680m RNDA2 12CU with 2 hdmi | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|1 USB4 and 2 USB3.2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|2.5G LAN}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 6900hx 8C16T - 2 ddr5 sodimmm - 19v ???W - |- | <!--Name-->Beelink Mini PC GTR6 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->PCIe4 | <!--Gfx-->AMD 680M RDNA2 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB-->USB3.2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 2.5GbE or intel i225}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit Ryzen 9 6900HX Zen3+ and a 2gb Radeon 680m 12CU ddr5 sodimm - 19v 120w psu - |- | <!--Name-->Asus PN53, Geekom AS 6, | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->pcie gen4 nvme and ata 2.5in | <!--Gfx-->680m RNDA2 12CU with 2 hdmi and 1 dp | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->{{No|2 usb-c, 2 USB2.1 and 3 USB3.2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|1G LAN}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit 6900hx 8C 16T - 2 slots ddr5 sodimmm (64Gb max) - 19v 120W - 4 retained base screws beware ribbon cable - |- | <!--Name-->Micro Computer (HK) Tech Ltd MinisForum UM773 Lite later UM750L slim, GMKtec K2 Mini PC | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe PCIe4.0 | <!--Gfx-->RDNA | <!--Audio-->HD Audio | <!--USB-->USB4 | <!--Ethernet-->2.5GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2023 2025 64bit - AMD Zen 3+ (8c 16t) Ryzen 7 7735HS, 7840HS and AMD Ryzen 9 7845HX AMD Ryzen™5 7545U (6c12t) - 19v up to 120w ac adapter - ddr5 sodimm 4800Mhz - |- | <!--Name-->[https://www.asrockind.com/en-gb/4x4 ASrock 4x4 SBC] | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->sata or nvme | <!--Gfx-->Vega or 680M | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 or USB4 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 1GbE or intel 2.5GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Beelink Mini PC GTR7 SER7 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->PCIe4 nvme 2280 up to 2Tb | <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M RDNA3 GPU output on hdmi and dp | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3.2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|1 or 2 2.5GbE}} | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2023 64bit AMD Phoenix APUs Zen 4 CPU Ryzen 7 7840HS or 9 7940HS (8c 16t) - 19v 5.26A 120w psu - del dios setup f7 choose boot - 2 thunderbolt-type usb-c on back - up to 64gb via 2 ddr5 sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->MINISFORUM BD770i Ryzen 7 7745HX (8c16t) or BD795i SE 790i 9 7945HX (16c32t) or F1FXM_MB_V1.1 795M LGA1700 mATX | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 NVMe | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 610m over usb-c, dp or hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec | <!--USB-->USB3 with 2 rear USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 2.5G | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Opinion-->2024 mini-ITX M/B is the first MoDT (Mobile on Desktop) with soldered AMD CPU - 2 dual PCIe4.0 M.2 slots - 2 ddr5 sodimm slots max 5200Mhz - 8pin cpu power - battery not easily replaceable underneath - |- | <!--Name-->mINISORUM ms-a1 MS-a2 | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme | <!--Gfx-->AMD 610M | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->dual 2.5GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2024 64bit - 19v ?A round barrel jack - 2 ddr5 so-dimm slots - choose from 5700G to 8700G apu - |- | <!--Name-->NextSBC 7840HS | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Nvme | <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M 12CU | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with codec | <!--USB-->USB4 and USB 3.2 | <!--Ethernet-->2 GbE | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - 32Gb soldered - |- | <!--Name-->Minisforum UM870 || <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} || <!--SATA-->NVme || <!--Gfx-->AMD 780M || <!--Audio-->HDaudio || <!--USB-->USB3 || <!--Ethernet-->2.5GbE || <!--Test Distro--> || <!--Comments-->2025 64bit - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Test Distro || Comments |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Server Systems=== [[#top|...to the top]] ====IBM==== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" ! width="15%" |Name ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="10%" |Integrated Gfx ! width="10%" |Audio ! width="10%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="15%" |Test Distro ! width="20%" |Comments |- | <!--Name-->xSeries 206m | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ATI RN50b (VESA only)}} | <!--Audio-->{{n/a}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB 2.0 (UHCI/EHCI)}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom}} | <!--Test Distro-->Nightly Build 2014-09-27 | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- |} ===Motherboard=== [[#top|...to the top]] * Late 2002, USB2.0 added and slightly better AROS sound support (AC97) appeared * 2002-2005 and still, to a limited extent, ongoing [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague bad capacitors] * Late 2003, ATX PSUs moved from 5V to 12v rails (extra 4pin on motherboard for CPU) * Late 2005, PCI Express replaced AGP and HDAudio replaced AC97 * Late 2007, ATX PSUs added extra 12V PCI-E connectors and 4+4pin for CPUs * Late 2010, USB3.0 appears on motherboards or needing a PCI-E motherboard slot * Late 2014 Hardware USB2 removed from USB3 chipsets ====AMD==== [[#top|...to the top]] =====Socket 7 (1997/1999)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->1997 VT82C586B (QFP-208) is the first from VIA with DDMA |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2000 VT82C686 has close to excellent DDMA support |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->SiS 5581/5582 SiS 5591/5595 SiS 530 /5595 SiS 600/5595 SiS 620/5595 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket A 462 (2001/4)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/motherboards/article.php/2217921/ABIT-NF7-S-nForce2-Motherboard-Review.htm Abit NF7-S] | <!--Chipset-->nForce 2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->SIL 3112A | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650 AC97 (Nvidia APU)}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL 8201LB | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Realtek RTL8801B |- | <!--Name-->ASRock K7NF2 | <!--Chipset-->nforce2 ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|AGP 8x}} | <!--Audio-->CMedia CMI 9761A AC'97 | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8201 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock K7S8X | <!--Chipset-->SIS 746FX | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|AGP 8x}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC'97 cmedia}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB2.0 works but does not boot}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|SiS900}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock K7S41GX | <!--Chipset-->SIS 741GX + DDR 333 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|onboard sis does not work with vga or vesa but AGP 8x works}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 SIS 7012}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|USB2.0 works but does not boot}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|SiS 900}} | <!--Opinion-->works ok |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.asus.com ASUS A7N8X] | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->Silicon Image Sil 3112A | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ac97 ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|ehci USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8201BL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->first total support for AROS in 2004/5 - damocles and M Schulz |- | <!--Name-->Biostar M7NCD | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650 AC97}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8201BL}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Chaintech 7NJS Ultra Zenith | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Promise PDC 20376 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|CMI8738}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->DFI Lanparty NF2 Ultra | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|via ac97 VT1616}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8139C | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ECS N2U400-A | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|Cmedia 9379A AC97}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|usb2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|VIA VT6103L}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA7N400L | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 Ultra 400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP 8x slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 ALC650}} | <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8100C | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.gigabyte.lv/products/page/mb/ga-8siml Gigabyte 8SIML] | <!--Chipset-->SIS 650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC'97}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|working}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Realtek RTL8100L LAN}} | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Matsonic [http://www.elhvb.com/mobokive/archive/matsonic/manual/index.html Manuals] MS83708E | <!--Chipset-->SIS730 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|SiS 5513}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|sis 305 no support use VESA}} | <!--Audio-->{{no|sis7018}} | <!--USB-->{{no|SiS 7001 USB 1.1 only}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|SIS900}} | <!--Opinion-->little support |- | <!--Name-->[http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph07585&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&dest_page=softwareCategory&os=228&tool=softwareCategory&query=Pavilion%20742n&product=89232 MSI MS-6367 HP 722n 742n (Mambo) (2001/2)] | <!--Chipset-->Nvidia nforce 220D (2001/2) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->GeForce2 AGP works 2D nouveau only | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|AC97 ADI 1885 no volume control on Units 0-3}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 USB1.1 ports AMD based - front 2 ports iffy}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|nForce}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested 20th Aug 2012 NB |- | <!--Name-->MSI K7N2 [http://us.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&prod_no=546/ Delta ILSR] Delta-L | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 (2002/3) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|Primary & Secondary ports}} IDE Tertiary port (RAID) | <!--SATA-->2 ports (RAID) | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|when fitted with an agp video card}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ac97 ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8201BL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->runs AROS well. Tested with Icaros 1.2.3 |- | <!--Name-->MSI K7N2 Delta2-LSR Platinum | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 (2002/3) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|Primary & Secondary ports}} IDE Tertiary port (RAID) | <!--SATA-->2 ports (RAID) | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|when fitted with an agp video card}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|ac97 ALC655}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8201BL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->runs AROS well. Tested with Icaros 1.2.3 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/motherboards/article.php/2204281/Soltek-SL-75MRN-L-nForce2-Motherboard-Review.htm Soltek 75FRN-L] | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|2 ports}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->AGP slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 usb2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek RTL8201BL}} | <!--Opinion-->good support |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.3dvelocity.com/reviews/mach4nf2ultra/mach4.htm XFX Pine Mach4 nForce2 Ultra 400] | <!--Chipset-->nForce2 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|3 ports}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|2 ports VIA VT6240}} | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP 8x slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC650}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8201BL}} | <!--Opinion-->some support |- | <!--Name-->ASUS A7V266 | <!--Chipset-->via KT266A + 8233 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{no|issues}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot | <!--Audio-->AC97 with AD1980 codec | <!--USB-->via 8233 | <!--Ethernet-->VIA VT6103 | <!--Opinion-->2002 issues with booting |- | <!--Name-->Asus A7V8X-X | <!--Chipset-->VIA KT400 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{unk| }} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|agp}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|AC97 with ADI AD1980 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|VIA 8235}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|Realtek 10/100}} | <!--Opinion-->2003 not booting for Socket A for AMD Barton/Thoroughbred/Athlon XP/Athlon/Duron 2.25+ GHz CPU - 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets Max. 3 GB - |- |} =====Socket 754 (2004/5)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Abit NF8-V2 | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 250GB (2004/5) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|2 ports}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|2 ports}} | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot x8 | <!--Audio-->ALC658 ac97 | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8201C}} | <!--Opinion-->a little support but no Firewire VIA VT6306 |- | <!--Name-->Biostar CK8 K8HNA Pro | <!--Chipset-->nforce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->VT6420 thru ide legacy only | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|AC97 ALC655}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8110S | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VT6307 no |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/motherboards/Chaintech_ZNF3-150_3.html Chaintech ZNF3-150 Zenith] | <!--Chipset-->nforce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|Sli3114 SATA via IDE emul}} | <!--Gfx-->1 AGP slot | <!--Audio-->{{no|VIA Envy24PT (VT1720) + VT1616}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcom GbE 5788}} | <!--Opinion-->very little support needs PCI cards but no Firewire VIA VT6306 |- | <!--Name-->DFI Lanparty UT nF3 250GB | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 250gb | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|2 ports nForce3 and 2 Marvell SATA PHY}} | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|AC97 ALC850}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|2 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->CK8S - Winfast NF3 250K8AA works and Marvell 88E1111 does not work | <!--Opinion-->2005 some support but no Firewire VIA VT6307 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-K8N | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA nForce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC658 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8100C | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TI43AB23 no |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte K8NNXP | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Sata sil3512 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC658 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTl8110S | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TI STB82AA2 no |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-K8NSNXP | <!--Chipset-->nForce3 250GB | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->SiI 3512 CT128 Sata Sil3515 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC850 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvel 88E8001}} | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->MSI K8N Neo-FIS2R | <!--Chipset-->nVIDIA NF3-250Gb | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Realtek 7.1 AC'97 ALC850 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E1111}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->[http://techreport.com/articles.x/5748/1 Shuttle AN50R] | <!--Chipset-->nF3-150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Sil 3112 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC650 AC97 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia nF3 (10/100) Intel 82540EM Gigabit | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VT6307 no |- | <!--Name--> Foxconn WinFast K8S755A | <!--Chipset-->SiS755 + SiS964 (DDR333) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> {{yes|AC97}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> {{yes|RTL8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket 939 (2005)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus A8N-LA GeForce 6150 LE | <!--Chipset-->Geforce 6150 (MCP51) + nForce 430 (PC-3200) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|two ATA 133}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|four 3.0GB/s SATAII ports}} | <!--Gfx-->built in or PCI-E x16 | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC883 HD Audio | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL 8201CL | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus A8N-SLI Premium | <!--Chipset-->NVidia | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|PCIe slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|AC97}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|nForce LAN but not Marvell}} | <!--Opinion-->Works well |- | <!--Name-->DFI nF4 Ultra-D LanParty - Diamond Flower International sold to BenQ group 2010 | <!--Chipset-->nF4 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->4 ports SATA 2 | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe x16 slots | <!--Audio-->AC97 with ALC850 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Dual Gigabit Ethernet, PCIe by Vitesse VSC8201 PHY nee Cicada 8201, PCI by Marvel 88E8001 | <!--Opinion-->2006 64bit - Four 184-pin DDR Dual-Channel Slots - 1 pci on Ultra, 2 pci on sli, |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus A8V E SE | <!--Chipset-->VIA K8T890 +VT8237R CHIPSET ATX AMD Motherboard with Athlon 64 X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 | <!--ACPI-->{{N/A}} | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{N/A}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe}} AC97 driver using Realtek ALC850 codec | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} USB 2.0 only | <!--Ethernet-->{{No}} Marvell 88E8053 | <!--Opinion-->Good base but needs additional PCI cards added for better support |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS A8V Deluxe (2004) | <!--Chipset-->VIA K8T800 Pro (DDR400) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->Promise 20378 2 ports | <!--SATA-->2 SATA2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{no|VIA VT8233A 8235 8237 AC97}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit}} | <!--Opinion-->needs extra PCI cards |- |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Test Distro--> | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->AsRock 939Dual-SATA2 | <!--Chipset-->Ali Uli M1695 PCIe with M1567 AGP | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->2 ports | <!--SATA-->1 Sata with JMicron JMB360 chip | <!--Gfx-->1 pci-e and 1 agp | <!--Audio-->AC97 with ALC850 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8201CL PHY ULi 10/100 | <!--Opinion-->64bit pci-e and agp combo on board - 4 ddr slots - |} =====Socket AM2 (2006/8) and AM2+ (2007-2010) ===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 (rev. 2.x) | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA® GeForce 6100 / nForce 430 chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2d for vga}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio Realtek ALC662 Audio Codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M2N61-AR mini itx | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA nForce 430 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 | <!--SATA-->2 | <!--Gfx-->GeForce 6150SE via vga or 1 pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with codec | <!--USB-->Nvidia | <!--Ethernet-->Nvidia | <!--Opinion-->2006 32bit - 1 pci - 2 ddr2 dimm slots non-eec - |- | <!--Name-->asus m2n68-am se2 | <!--Chipset-->nvidia 630a 630/a MCP68SE | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 ports | <!--SATA-->2 ports MCP61 chipset is SATA over IDE, not SATA over AHCI and reports subsystem as 0x1 IDE, not 0x6 SATA | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|nvidia 7025 2d and 3d thru vga}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|hd audio with realtek alc662 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|nForce chipset RTL 8201CP}} | <!--Opinion-->2007 64bit Phenom IIX2, Athlon 64 LE X2, Sempron, and Phenom FX processors - ddr2 667Mhz ram max 4Gb - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0) | <!--Chipset-->AMD 770 with SB700 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888 codec }} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 8111C later 8111D}} | <!--Opinion-->Good support for AM2+ / AM2 with 4 ddr2 ram - 4 x PCI Express x1, 2 x PCI slots - firewire T.I. TSB43AB23 chip no support - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe | <!--Chipset-->AMD 790FX RD790 + SB600 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{No|Marvell 88SE6121 SATA II}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 1.1 support | <!--Audio-->{{No|HD Audio ADI® AD1988}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8056}} | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASROCK N68-S N68C-S | <!--Chipset-->AMD based nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|slimline DVD drive works}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GF 7025 use vesa}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio for VIA 1708S VT1705}} | <!--USB-->{{Maybe|echi usb 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8201EL / 8201CL - nforce}} | <!--Opinion-->2008 unbuffered 1066Mhz ddr2 ram - N68C-S may need noacpi added to grub boot line to disable pci temporarily to run as it cannot get to [PCI] Everything OK - |- | <!--Name-->Asus M2N68-AM Plus | <!--Chipset-->Athlon 64, Sempron, Athlon 64 X2, Athlon 64 FX with nvidia 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->no vga, pci-e slot only | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with ALC662 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8211CL Gigabit LAN}} | <!--Opinion-->adding "noacpi noapic noioapic" to the GRUB options - Dual channel DDR2 1066, 800, 667 MHz - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M68M-S2 (1.0) S2P (2.3) S2L GA-M68SM-S2 (1.x) | <!--Chipset-->nForce 630a chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025, vga (s2 and s2p), dvi (s2l) | <!--Audio-->ALC883 (S2), ALC888B (S2P), ALC662 (S2L), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8201CL (S2), 8211CL (S2P), 8211BL (S2L), | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit possible with AMD AM2+ CPU on AM2 motherboard, the system bus speed will downgrade from HT3.0(5200MHz) to HT1.0(2000 MT/s) spec |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M2N68-VM | <!--Chipset-->nForce 630a (MCP68PVNT) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Nvidia GeForce ® 7050PV hdmi, dvi and vga | <!--Audio-->HD audio VIA 1708B codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8211C | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit - ddr2 800Mhz |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket AM3 White socket (2010/11)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-MA74GM-S2 GA-MA74GM-S2H | <!--Chipset-->740g with sb710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|bios IDE}} | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 2100 and pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->ALC888 (r1.x),ALC888b (r2.0), ALC888B (rev4.x) | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111C later 8111D | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - 2 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets max 8 GB - Micro ATX Form Factor 24.4cm x 23.4cm - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.vesalia.de/e_aresone2011.htm Aresone 2011] | <!--Chipset-->760g | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|no Radeon HD3000 driver yet<br>vesa driver works<br>and add PCIe card}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes}} | <!--Opinion-->Good support - 4 DDR3 memory sockets - |- | <!--Name-->Foxconn A76ML-K 3.0 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760g rev3.0 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|1 }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|4 in IDE mode }} | <!--Gfx-->HD3000 with pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC662-GR codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit - 2 ddr3 slots - 2 pci slots - |- | <!--Name-->GA-MA770T-UD3P (rev. 1.0 to 1.4) | <!--Chipset-->amd 770 with sb710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|4 sata}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio with Realtek ALC888 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8168 rtl8111c/d}} | <!--Opinion-->2011 64 - 4 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 2.0 2.1) | <!--Chipset-->AMD 770 with SB700 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888 codec }} | <!--USB-->{{yes|USB2}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 8111C later 8111D}} | <!--Opinion-->Good support for AM3 with 4 ddr2 ram - 4 x PCI Express x1, 2 x PCI slots - firewire T.I. TSB43AB23 chip no support - |- | <!--Name-->Asus M4A785TD-M PRO | <!--Chipset-->785G and SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|ide legacy}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ATI Radeon HD 4200 - use vesa}} or pci-e 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Opinion-->Good support with 1366 ddr3 ram - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M4A88T-I Deluxe ITX | <!--Chipset-->AMD 880G with AMD SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Three SATA 3Gbps | <!--Gfx-->Radeon HD 4350 GPU with HDMI and DVI or One 16x PCI-Express 2.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC889 | <!--USB-->6 x USB 2, 2 x USB 3 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek RTL8112L}} | <!--Opinion-->2014 64bit - 2 SODIMM DDR3 slots max 8GB |- | <!--Name-->Asus M4A88T-M Version E5907 E5826 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 880G SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Radeon 4250 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA VT 1708S codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek rtl8169 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->GigaByte 890GPA-UD3H | <!--Chipset-->AMD 890GX together with SB850 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Yes | <!--Gfx-->use pci-e nvidia | <!--Audio-->Maybe - ALC892 rev. 1.0, ALC892 rev 2.1, ALC889 rev. 3.1 | <!--USB-->Yes | <!--Ethernet-->Yes | <!--Opinion-->works well overall |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD7 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 890FX with SB850 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|IDE }} | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC889 (rev 2.x) | <!--USB-->{{Yes|AMD USB2 but limited with NEC D720200F1 USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->2 x Realtek 8111D | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - XL-ATX Form Factor 32.5cm x 24.4cm - 4 ddr3 slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 890GXM-G65 | <!--Chipset-->890GX + SB750 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|legacy}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|ATI 4290 built-in (vesa)}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC889 DD GR}} HD Audio crackles | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock N68-VS3 FX | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 Sata2 | <!--Gfx-->Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA® VT1705 Codec | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek PHY RTL8201EL | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit - 2 x DDR3 DIMM slots - |- | <!--Name-->MSI GF615M-P35 MS-7597 | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA® nForce 430 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->GeForce 6150SE | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|HD Audio with Realtek® ALC888S}} | <!--USB-->{{No|freezes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek 8211CL}} | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M68MT-S2 | <!--Chipset--> nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 vga | <!--Audio-->ALC888B (1.3), ACL887 (3.1), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8211CL (all) | <!--Opinion-->2010 64bit possible, AMD AM3 CPU on this motherboard, the system bus speed will downgrade from HT3.0 (5200MT/s) to HT1.0 (2000 MT/s) spec |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-M68MT-S2P | <!--Chipset--> nForce 630a | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 vga | <!--Audio-->ALC888B (1.x 2.x), ALC889 (3.0), ALC888B/889 (3.1), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8211CL (all) | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M4N78 PRO | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA GeForce 8300 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 xUltraDMA 133/100 | <!--SATA-->6 xSATA 3 Gbit/s ports | <!--Gfx-->Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce® 8 series GPU with 1 PCIe 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA1708S 8 -Channel codec | <!--USB-->12 USB 2.0 ports (8 ports at mid-board, 4 ports at back panel) | <!--Ethernet-->NVIDIA Gigabit | <!--Opinion-->4 x DIMM, Max. 16 GB, DDR2 1200(O.C.)/1066*/800/667 ECC,Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory - ATX Form Factor 12 inch x 9.6 inch ( 30.5 cm x 24.4 cm ) - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket AM3+ Black socket (2012/15)===== *095W FX-6300 FD6300WMHKBOX (bulldozer SSE4.1 AVX) 970 mobos with FX-8320E 8core Black Editions FD832EWMHKBOX FX-8370E (Vishera/Piledriver) *125W FX-6310 (bulldozer) 970 mobos with FX-8320 FX-8350 FX-8370 (Vishera/Piledriver) *220W 990FX mobos with FX-9000 FX-9370 FX-9590 {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS M5A78L-M LX3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760G with SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|bios IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->HD3000 with pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC887, V? ALC892 codecs | <!--USB-->USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Qualcomm Atheros 8161/8171 add realtek 8111? pci-e card}} | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - uATX Form Factor 9.6 inch x 7.4 inch ( 24.4 cm x 18.8 cm ) - 2 x DIMM, Max. 16GB, DDR3 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760G and SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|6 SATA2 ports}} | <!--Gfx-->GT240 and a nv7900gs, both pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC889 (r3.1), ALC??? (rev. 4.0), ALC887 (r5.x)}} | <!--USB-->4 USB2 | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|Realtek 8111E (r3.1), Atheros (rev4.0), Atheros (r5.x) }} | <!--Opinion-->2012 offers very poor control over its EFI vs. BIOS booting partition features |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 (r3.0), (r4.1 Blue board), (r5.0 dark board), (rev6 dark mobo) | <!--Chipset-->AMD 760G and SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|Bios IDE mode for SATA2 on early ones}} | <!--Gfx-->AMD HD3000, pci-e GT240 and a nv7900gs | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC??? (r3.0), ALC887 (r4.1), VIA VT2021 (r5.0), Realtek® ALC892 codec (rev6) }} | <!--USB-->{{yes|AMD USB2 but not VIA® VL805 USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE | <!--Opinion-->2013 64bit - Micro ATX Form Factor 24.4cm x 24.4cm - 4 x DDR3 DIMM sockets - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 760GM | <!--Chipset-->ATI 760G plus SB710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->HD3000 Use Vesa | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|P33 VT1705; P34, P21 and P23 (FX) MS7641 v3.0 ALC887, E51 ALC892}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek}} | <!--Opinion-->P23 issues with audio ALC887 crackles thru earphones - |- | <!--Name-->Gigayte GA-MA770T-UD3P (rev. 3.1) | <!--Chipset-->amd 770 with sb710 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with Realtek ALC888/892 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111d/e | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASRock 890FX Deluxe5 Extreme3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 890FX + AMD SB850 or SB950 (Extreme3) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes}} | <!--Gfx-->{{N/A}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC892}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8111E rtl8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M5A97 R2.0 EVO | <!--Chipset-->AMD 970 and SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->Asmedia SATA Controller | <!--Gfx-->n/a | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC887 (LE), ALC887 (Regular), ALC892 (EVO) codec | <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 and 2 Asmedia USB3.0 Controller | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111F | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 970 with SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes|IDE mode}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio--> ALC??? (rev. 1.0/1.1), ALC887 (rev1.2), VIA VT2021 codec (rev 1.3 1.4 and rev3.0) | <!--USB-->{{yes|AMD USB2 but not Etron EJ168 chip (USB3)}} | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek GbE 8111E (all revisions), | <!--Opinion-->2015 64bit - ATX Form Factor 30.5cm x 22.4cm - 4 x 1.5V DDR3 DIMM sockets - |- | <!--Name-->MSI 970 Gaming | <!--Chipset-->970FX SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC1150 Codec | <!--USB-->6 usb2 with 2 USB3 VIA VL806 Chipset | <!--Ethernet-->Killer E2205 Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus M5A99X EVO | <!--Chipset-->990X - RD980 with SB920 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->2 pci-e gen ? | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC892 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 realtek 8111e | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 | <!--Chipset-->AMD 990 with SB950 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes| }} | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC889 (rev 1.x, 3.0, 3.1), | <!--USB-->{{yes|AMD USB2 not 2 x Etron EJ168 chips for USB3}} | <!--Ethernet-->realtek rtl8169 8111e | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - ATX Form Factor; 30.5cm x 24.4cm - 4 ddr3 slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====AMD Fusion (2011/14)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | 1.2GHz single Bobcat Fusion C30 + Hudson M1 | ACPI | IDE | SATA | AMD 6250 | Audio | USB | Ethernet | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | Asus E35M1-M PRO uATX | 1.6GHz 18W AMD Fusion E-350 dual core + Hudson M1 | ACPI | {{N/A}} | SATA | AMD 6310 - no HD driver yet | ALC887 VD2 | USB | RTL8111E | 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - EFI bios [http://www.anandtech.com/show/4023/the-brazos-performance-preview-amd-e350-benchmarked] |- | Asus E35M1-I Deluxe miniITX | 1.6GHz dual AMD Fusion E350 + Hudson M1 + DDR3 | ACPI | {{N/A}} | SATA | AMD 6310 - no HD driver yet | ALC892 | USB | Realtek 8111E | 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - no support for Atheros AR5008 on a Mini PCI-E |- | ASRock E350M1 / USB3 (also version with USB3.0 added) | 1.6GHz dual AMD Fusion E350 + Hudson M1 | ACPI | {{N/A}} | SATA - 4 SATA3 | {{Maybe|AMD 6310 - use vesa with hdmi and dvi}} | {{Yes|Audio ALC892 playback but no HDMI output}} | USB - 4 USB2.0 and 2 USB3.0 | {{Yes|rtl8169 for Realtek 8111E 8411 ethernet chipset}} | 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-E350N-USB3 mini-ITX | <!--Chipset--> Hudson M1 FCH | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 SATA3 | <!--Gfx--> plus HDMI, DVI | <!--Audio-->ALC892 | <!--USB-->2 NEC USB3.0 with 4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-E350N Win8 V1.0 | <!--Chipset-->Hudson M1 FCH A45 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 SATA3 | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|Use VESA - AMD 6310 plus HDMI, DVI}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC887 playback through headphones but not thru hdmi}} | <!--USB-->{{maybe|4 USB2.0 needs more testing}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8111 8168B}} | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - works well but need to test with sata hard disk |- | <!--Name-->MSI E350IA-E45 | <!--Chipset-->e-350 + Hudson M1 + DDR3 | <!--ACPI-->no support | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 Sata3 ports | <!--Gfx-->AMD 6310 gpu | <!--Audio-->ALC HDA | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 and 2 USB3.0 through NEC 720200 chipset | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS E45M1-M PRO | <!--Chipset-->E450 APU with Hudson M1 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS E45M1-I Deluxe | <!--Chipset-->E-450 together | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket FM1 (2011/13)===== On board Graphic on CPU - HD6410D, HD6530D, HD6550D, {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS F1A55-M LE | <!--Chipset--> with AMD A55 FCH (Hudson D2) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->6 x SATA 3Gbit/s port(s), blue Support Raid 0, 1, 10, JBOD | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 2.0 slot or Integrated AMD Radeon™ HD 6000 in Llano APU | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC887 Audio CODEC | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 ports | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E rtl8169 | <!--Opinion-->2012 2011 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - A-Series/E2- Series APUs up to 4 cores - 2 x DIMM, Max. 32GB, DDR3 2250(O.C.)/1866/1600/1333/1066 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory Dual Channel Memory Architecture - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket FM2 White Socket (2012/13)===== Onboard Gfx on CPU - HD6570, HD7480D, HD7540D, {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A75 A85X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit does not support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket FM2 Plus Black socket (2013/15)===== Onboard Gfx on CPU - HD6570, HD7480D, HD7540D, {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A88X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket AM1 FS1b socket (2014/1x)===== 5350 4 core Jaguar cores 2GHz with Integrated AMD Radeon R Series Graphics in the APU Kabini [Radeon HD 8400] Later Beema APU with 2/4 core Puma (slightly updated Jaguar) cores, GCN graphics and a compute capable Radeon core, along with a brand new AMD security processor and FT3 BGA packaging (probably best avoided for long term survival). {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS AM1I-A | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio Realtek® ALC887-VD | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111GR 8168 | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit may support AVX or SSE 4.1 - |- | <!--Name-->MSI AM1I | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111G | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI AM1M | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111G | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->BGA FT3 AM1x |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket AM4 FM3 Summit Ridge Zen Zen+ (2016/22)===== Jim Keller’s group designed x86 Zen CPU - new and covering the same AM4 platform/socket for desktop Zen will also shift from Bulldozer’s Clustered Multithreading (CMT) to Simultaneous Multithreading (SMT, aka Intel’s Hyperthreading). CMT is the basis for Bulldozer’s unusual combination of multiple integer cores sharing a single FPU within a module, so the move to SMT is a more “traditional” design for improving resource usage Trusted Platform Module, or fTPM, that Windows 11 requires. Ryzen processors using a firmware TPM are causing stutters, even when doing mundane tasks. To enable TPM 2.0 on your AMD system please follow the steps below. <pre> Power on system and press DEL or F2 to get into the BIOS. Navigate to Advanced\CPU Configuration. Enable AMD fTPM switch. Press F10 to save changes. </pre> {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero | <!--Chipset-->X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 (1x16 or 2x8) | <!--Audio-->SupremeFX audio features an S1220 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel I211 | <!--Opinion-->Ryzen 7 1800X 1700X |- | <!--Name-->Biostar X370gtn Itx Am4 | <!--Chipset-->AMD X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek Dragon LAN RTL8118AS | <!--Opinion--> 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-AX370 K7 | <!--Chipset--> X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with 2 x Realtek® ALC1220 codec 0x10EC, 0x0295 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->1 intel and 1 E2500 | <!--Opinion--> 4 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->MSI Xpower Gaming Titanium | <!--Chipset--> X370 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->8-channel Realtek 1220 Codec 0x10EC, 0x0295 | <!--USB-->ASMedia® ASM2142 and amd cpu | <!--Ethernet-->1 x Intel® I211AT Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion--> 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Prime B350 Plus ATX | <!--Chipset-->B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 mode) | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC887 8-Channel | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->Ryzen 5 1600x 1600 1500X 1400 - 4 x DIMM Max 64GB, DDR4 up to 2666MHz ECC and non-ECC Memory - ATX 12 inch x 9.35 inch ( 30.5 cm x 23.7 cm ) - 2 pci |- | <!--Name-->Asus PRIME B350M-A/CSM Micro ATX | <!--Chipset-->AMD B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek LAN | <!--Opinion-->Ryzen 3 1300x 1200 1100 |- | <!--Name-->AsRock Pro4 AB350 | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe 3.0 x16, 4 PCIe 2.0 x1 | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->2017 64bit - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac | <!--Chipset--> B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic Mortar | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 (x16 mode) | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->white and grey colours - 2 pci-e and 2 pci slots - m.2 in middle - atx 12 in by 9.6 in and matx versions - |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue M-ATX B350M-TI | <!--Chipset-->B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue B350I-Plus ITX | <!--Chipset-->B350 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASRock A320M-ITX MINI ITX Rev1.0 Rev2 Rev2.1 | <!--Chipset-->A320 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2018 |- | <!--Name-->Asus PRIME A320M-C R2.0 rev1.1 A320M-K | <!--Chipset-->A320 A/B300 SFF | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HD audio with Realtek ALC887 alc897 CODEC | <!--USB-->2 usb 3.1 gen 1 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111E | <!--Opinion-->2019 64bit - 3rd/2nd/1st Gen AMD Ryzen™ / 2nd and 1st Gen AMD Ryzen™ with Radeon™ Vega |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI A320M-A PRO MicroATX | <!--Chipset-->AMD A320 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio Realtek® ALC892 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 8111H | <!--Opinion-->2019 64bit - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG X399 Zenith Extreme | <!--Chipset-->AMD X399 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> supremefx s1220 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Opinion-->Threadripper 1950X 1920X 1900X TR4 skt |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->AsRock Fatality X470 Gaming K4 mATX | <!--Chipset-->X470 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->nvme | <!--Gfx-->pci-e rebar possible | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asrock Fatal1ty X470 Gaming-ITXac AMD AM4 | <!--Chipset-->AMD X470 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS ROG STRIX X470-I GAMING AM4 ITX Motherboard | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus B450-I Gaming | <!--Chipset-->AMD B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->high VRM temps - raven ridge 14nm+ like 2200G 2400G |- | <!--Name-->AsRock B450 Gaming K4 | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> alc892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> 4 ddr4 slots - low VRM thermals 3900x 3950x |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte B450 I Aorus Pro Wifi | <!--Chipset-->AMD B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->1 nvme pcie3 with 4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pcie | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek® ALC1220-VB codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Opinion-->very high vrm temps |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue B450i Gaming ITX | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata3 - none nvme | <!--Gfx-->pcie3 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->1G | <!--Opinion-->2021 64 2nd 3rd AMD - 2 ddr4 dimm slots |- | <!--Name-->MSI b450 tomahawk max | <!--Chipset--> b450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{n/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HD audio with Realtek® ALC892 Codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111H | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450 Pro Carbon | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> ALC codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450-A PRO | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111h | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450I GAMING Plus AC ITX | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2019 - 2nd and 3rd gen AMD - 2 ddr4 slots - |- | <!--Name-->MSI B450 GAMING PLUS MAX | <!--Chipset-->B450 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek® ALC892/ALC897 Codec | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111H | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MAXSUN AMD Challenger B450M M-ATX (aka Soyo) | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASRock X570 PHANTOM GAMING-ITX/TB3 Mini ITX AM4 | <!--Chipset-->X570 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->nvme | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 4.0 | <!--Audio--> ALC1200 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel LAN | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero | <!--Chipset-->AMD X570 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> SupremeFX7.1 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel® I211-AT and Realtek® RTL8125-CG 2.5G LAN | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> alc1220 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Strix B550-i AM4 ITX Motherboard | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 - |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue Jingyue B550i Gaming itx | <!--Chipset-->B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->3 with 1 nvme | <!--Gfx-->1 pci-e 4 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio alc | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->1G | <!--Comments-->2022 64bit max of Ryzen 5500 (c t), 5600, 5600g (6c12t) - 2 ddr4 |- | <!--Name-->Asrock B550 PHANTOM GAMING ITX/AX | <!--Chipset-->AMD B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> alc1220 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel 2.5G | <!--Comments--> |- | <!--Name-->AsRock B550M-ITX/ac | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> Realtek ALC887/897 Audio Codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion-->2022 - 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING | <!--Chipset-->B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->PCIe Gen4 x4 & SATA3 | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 4 | <!--Audio--> supremefx S1220A | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel® I225-V 2.5Gb | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte AMD B550I AORUS PRO AX Mini-ITX rev 1.0 | <!--Chipset-->AMD B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 nvme pci-e3 with 4 sata3 | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC1220-VB codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 2.5GbE LAN | <!--Opinion-->2021 2 x DDR4 DIMM sockets 1Rx8/2Rx8/1Rx16 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX | <!--Chipset-->B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 DP and hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC1200 | <!--USB-->USB3 USB 3.2 Gen1 Type-C | <!--Ethernet-->2.5GbE LAN | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit- finer tuning than A520's - AMD Ryzen 5000 Series/ 3rd Gen Ryzen and 3rd Gen Ryzen with Radeon Graphics CPU - Dual Channel ECC/ Non-ECC Unbuffered DDR4, 4 DIMMs - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX | <!--Chipset--> B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio ALC887 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->realtek rtl8118 | <!--Opinion-->2021 64bit - 4 ddr4 dimms - |- | <!--Name-->MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX | <!--Chipset--> B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC892 | <!--USB-->USB 3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111H | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Processors - 4 dimm ddr4 - |- | <!--Name-->MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX | <!--Chipset--> B550 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe 1 x M.2, Socket 3, M Key (up to Type 22110) and 1 x M.2, Socket 3, M Key (Type 2242/2260/2280) | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 4.0 with dp and hdmi | <!--Audio-->HDaudio ALC1200 | <!--USB-->USB3 1 x USB 3.1 Type-C and 1 x USB 3.1 Type-A | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8125B and Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - 4 Dimm slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Jginyue A520M-H mATX | <!--Chipset-->A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> old bios with random issues with APU ryzens - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte A520M S2H mATX | <!--Chipset-->AMD A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 1GbE | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit Zen3 65W and up - 2 ddr4 - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte A520I AC mITX mini-itx | <!--Chipset-->AMD A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit Zen3 65W and up 5600G (6c12t) or 5700G (8c16t) - 2 ddr4 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->MSI A520M-A PRO mATX | <!--Chipset-->A520 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe 1 x M.2, Socket 3, M Key (Type 2242/2260/2280) | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e 3.0 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC892 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111H | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - 2 ddr4 dimm slots - 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Desktop and AMD Ryzen 4000 G-Series CPU |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} ===== (Socket AM5 LGA1718 Zen4 2022/2x)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asrock Steel Legend | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e rnda2 | <!--Audio-->HD audio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - ddr5 ecc (10 chip) and non-ecc (8 chips) 64Gb @ 6000Mhz or 128GB @ 4800Mhz - |- | <!--Name-->Asrock TaiChi | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->PCI-e rnda2 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio | <!--USB-->USB4 with Thunderbolt 4 equivalent | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Realtek killer E3000 2.5GbE}} | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit - ddr5 ecc (10 chip) and non-ecc (8 chips) |- | <!--Name-->Asus ROG Crosshair Hero | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe rnda2 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->rnda3 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit 7950x3d 120W, 7900 7800 7600 90W |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x670e | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->rnda3 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2022 64bit |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus B650E-I | <!--Chipset-->B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 5 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2023 - better sound with an actual AMP, PCIe 5, USB-C display outs - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x650 B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x650 B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->x650 B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MAXSUN AMD Challenger B650M WIFI M-ATX (aka Soyo) | <!--Chipset-->B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI b650i mini itx | <!--Chipset-->B650 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->NVMe | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 4 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->2023 - front panel connectors at the back of the board - dead rear nvme slot and a drained CMOS battery as the CMOS button being pressed during shipping - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M Zen4 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->A620M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> Zen5 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> Zen6 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} ===== (Zen? AM? 203x/3x)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} ====Intel==== [[#top|...to the top]] =====Socket 370 (2000/2)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Intel D815EEA | <!--Chipset-->866Mhz P3 and i815 chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{N/A}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Nvidia AGPx8 6200LE added}} | <!--Audio-->{{N/A}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|2 USB1.1}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{N/A}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested AspireOS 1.7, simple basic board with useful 5 PCI slots |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket 478 (2002/4)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->[http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://detail.zol.com.cn/motherboard/index46381.shtml&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dc.865pe.l%2Bmotherboard%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DsZB%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official Colorful Technology C.865PE-L Silver Fighter Warrior V2.3] | <!--Chipset-->865PE | <!--ACPI-->{{dunno| }} | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|tested with CDROM}} | <!--SATA-->{{dunno| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|AGP slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|ALC650 AC97}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB 1.1 and 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL 8100 8139}} | <!--Opinion-->Still testing with NB (Nightly Build) May 2013 |- | <!--Name-->Intel 845 | <!--Chipset-->865P | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{No|intel 800}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 AD1985}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|e1000}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested ICAROS 1.3 |- | <!--Name-->Intel 845 | <!--Chipset-->865GC | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{No|intel 865 Extreme Graphics 2}} | <!--Audio-->{{No|AC97 AD1985}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|USB1.1 and USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|e1000}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested ICAROS 1.3 |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA775 s775 (2005/8)===== an industry standard DDR2 module could in theory contain fallback JEDEC, intel XMP and AMD EPP configuration data Intel PC CL5 ram modules but an "AMD" CL5 ram module the BIOS cannot read the AMD EPP info on the SPD (Serial Presence Detect) but can recognize the CL5 timing info in the JEDEC data table. PC BIOS auto configures for the AMD ram module and boots normally. an AMD PC CL6 ram modules but an "INTEL" CL6 ram module the BIOS cannot read the INTEL XMP info on the SPD but can recognize the CL6 timing info in JEDEC data table. PC BIOS auto configures for the AMD ram module and boots normally. an INTEL PC needs CL6 ram modules but have an "AMD" CL4 ram module. INTEL BIOS cannot read the AMD EPP info on the SPD but can recognize the CL4 timing info in JEDEC data table. PC BIOS recognizes module timings as incompatible an refuses to boot. entirely separate issue if the RAM module timing specs are incompatible.(i.e. CL4 RAM in a "CL6 only" PC) {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Abit AG8 | <!--Chipset-->P915 + ICH6R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports SATA1 | <!--Gfx-->1 PCIe x16 Slot | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC658 AC97 | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8110S-32 | <!--Opinion-->2004 32bit - Firewire TI 4200R7T no |- | <!--Name-->MSI 915 Neo2 | <!--Chipset-->P915 + ICH6R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports SATA1 | <!--Gfx-->1 PCIe x16 Slot | <!--Audio-->CMI 9880L HD Audio | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Broadcomm BCM5751 PCIe}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VIA VT6306 no |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5GC P5GC-MX | <!--Chipset-->P945GC Lakeport-GC + ICH7R northbridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 3.0 Gbit/s ports | <!--Gfx-->1 PCIe 1.1 slot | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC662 codec | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 usb2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|atheros L2}} | <!--Opinion-->2005 32bit - 3 pci slots - 4 x 240-pin DIMM Sockets max. 4GB DDR2 667/533 non-ECC - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Foxconn PC45CM-SA 45CM-S | <!--Chipset-->945GC with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 sata2 ports | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|pcie 1.0 slot with gma950 integrated}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with aLC883 codec playback}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|realtek 8139 8100sc}} | <!--Opinion-->2 dimm slots 667mhz max 4gb - can be found in Advent desktops - 2 pci-e and 2 pci - core 2 duo only e6xxx - Micro ATX (9.6” x 8.8”) - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-81945GM MFY-RH | <!--Chipset-->Intel® 945GM Express with ICH7M-DH | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|GMA950 VGA15 and PCI-e 1.0 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio with ALC880 codec playback only rear port}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 usb 2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Intel PRO1000PL 82573L Gigabit Ethernet}} | <!--Opinion-->2006 MoDT term “Mobile on DeskTop.”, low TDP CPUs to work on desktop form-factor motherboards. mATX Micro ATX 24.4cm x 24.4cm - 2 DDR2 dimm 1.8v slots with 4Gb max - will not boot if PCI2 slot occupied - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-945 GCM S2C | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662 (1.x)}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|8101E Rtl 8169 (1.x)}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA945-GCM S2L | <!--Chipset-->945GC with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCi-E slot | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|Intel HD Audio with ALC662 codec 2/4/5.1-channel (1.x)}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8111c 8169 (1.x)}} | <!--Opinion-->2 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM 4GB DDR2 memory max - 2 PCI-e and 2 PCI - Micro ATX form factor; 24.4cm x 19.3cm - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 945P Neo-F rev 1.0 | <!--Chipset-->P945 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCie 1.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC662 HDA | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->8110SC (rtl8169) | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI 945P Neo2-F rev 1.2 | <!--Chipset-->P945 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 SATA1 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCie 1.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC850 AC97 | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->8110SC (rtl8169) | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-P31-DS3L | <!--Chipset-->P31 with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCI Express x16 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC888 codec | <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111B | <!--Opinion-->DDR2 800Mhz up to 4Gb 4 x 240 pin - 3 PCI - ATX 12.0" x 8.3" - |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5KPL-AM /PS | <!--Chipset-->G31 with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->4 xSATA 3 Gbit/s ports | <!--Gfx-->PCIe 1.1 with integrated Intel® GMA 3100 | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with VIA VT1708B with ALC662 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8102EL 100/10 LAN with Realtek RTL8111C Gigabit LAN | <!--Opinion-->2 x 2 GB DDR2 Non-ECC,Un-buffered DIMMs with 2 PCI - Intel Graphics Media Accelerator - |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5KPL/EPU | <!--Chipset-->G31 with ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Pci-e 1.0 slot | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD audio with ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8169 Realtek 8111C}} | <!--Opinion-->Tested - 4 240-pin DIMM, Max. 4 GB - 4 pci-e and 3 pci - ATX Form Factor 12 inch x 8.2 inch ( 30.5 cm x 20.8 cm ) - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G31M ES2L | <!--Chipset-->G31 plus ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{Yes|Intel GMA 3100 2d}} | <!--Audio-->{{Maybe|ALC883 (1.x), ALC883/888B (2.x)}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Maybe|RTL8111C (1.x), Atheros 8131 (2.x)}} | <!--Opinion-->reduces DRAM capacity to 4GB |- | <!--Name-->ASRock G31M-S r1.0 G31M-GS | <!--Chipset-->G31 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|4 sata2}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GMA 3100 2d not 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{partial|rtl8169 RTL8111DL 8169 (for -GS) RTL8102EL (for -S)}} | <!--Opinion-->2007 64bit Core2 - 2 DDR2 800 max 8Gig AMI bios MicroATX - |- | <!--Name-->ASRock G31M-S r2.0 | <!--Chipset-->G31 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|4 sata2}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GMA 3100 2d not 3d}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL 8111DL 8169}} | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit core2 - 2 DDR2 800 max 8Gig MicroATX |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/apac/eng/products/desktop/bdb/dg31pr/feature/index.htm Intel DG31PR] | <!--Chipset-->iG31 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|3100 but can use PCIe 1.1 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888 playback}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8111B Rtl 8169}} | <!--Opinion-->good support |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Intel G33 Express Chipset with ich9 southbridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->Intel 3100 powervr tile based | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2008 64bit - embedded on Core 2 Quad, Core 2 Duo, Pentium Dual-Core CPUS with Integrated GPU Intel GMA 3100 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->ASUS P5G41T-M LX | <!--Chipset-->G41 + ICH8 + DDR3 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|X4500 some 2d only)}} | <!--Audio-->ALC887 | <!--USB-->3 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Atheros L1c AR8131}} | <!--Opinion-->reduces maximum supported memory ddr3 from 16 to 8GB 2 dimm slots non-EEC - demotes the PCIe controller mode from revision 2.0 (5.0GT/s) to revision 1.1 (2.5GT/s |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G41MT S2 | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->VT1708S (1.3), ALC887-VD2 (1.4), ALC887 (2.1), | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Atheros AR8151 l1c (1.x 2.x), | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G41MT S2PT | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC887 (1.0), VIA (2.0), ALC887 (2.1) | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8111E (1.x), Atheros AR8151 l1c (2.1), | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-G41MT D3 | <!--Chipset-->G41 + ICH7 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 Port | <!--SATA-->4 Ports | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|GMA X4500 2d only and pci-e 1.1 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC888B}} | <!--USB-->4 ports + headers | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8111 D/E}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-P41T D3P | <!--Chipset-->G41 + ICH7 with Intel Core 2 Duo (E6xxx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4ports | <!--Gfx-->GMA X4500 2d | <!--Audio-->ALC888 889/892 | <!--USB-->4 ports | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8111C or D/E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Intel DG41AN Classic | <!--Chipset-->iG41 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx-->X4500 2d | <!--Audio-->ALC888S ALC888VC | <!--USB-->4 ports | <!--Ethernet-->8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->AsRock P5B-DE | <!--Chipset-->P965 + ICH8 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{Maybe|works ide legacy}} |<!--Gfx-->{{Yes|with PCI-E 1.1 slot}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio via VT1708S}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8169}} | <!--Opinion-->2006 works well |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5B SE | <!--Chipset-->965 intel | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes| }} | <!--SATA-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{N/A}} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|HD Audio ALC662 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{No| }} | <!--Opinion-->works well except ethernet |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5W DH Deluxe P5WDG2 WS PRO | <!--Chipset-->975X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->2 ports | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe x16 slots | <!--Audio-->ALC882 AND LATER ADI 1988B | <!--USB-->2 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Marvell 88E8052 88E8053}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TI TSB43AB22A no |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Abit IP35 | <!--Chipset-->P35 Express + ICH9R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 ports | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC888 HDA | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->two RTL8110SC | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Texas TSB43 AB22A no |- | <!--Name-->MSI P35 Neo F FL MS-7630 rev 1 | <!--Chipset-->Intel P35 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 1.1 support | <!--Audio-->HD Audio ALC888 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek | <!--Opinion-->Base model of this range of P35 mobos |- | <!--Name-->GA-P35-DS3 | <!--Chipset-->P35 and ICH9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDAudio with Realtek ALC889A codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek 8111B | <!--Opinion-->2008 - 4 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets max 8 GB - |- | <!--Name-->GA-EP35-DS3 (rev. 2.1) | <!--Chipset-->Intel® P35 + ICH9 Chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{unk|}} | <!--SATA-->{{unk|4 }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{unk|Realtek ALC889A codec }} | <!--USB-->{{yes | }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek 8111B}} | <!--Opinion-->good |- | <!--Name-->Abit IX38 Quad GT | <!--Chipset-->X38 / ICH9R Chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCI-E 2.0 slot | <!--Audio--> HD Audio ALC888 | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL 8110SC 8169SC | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Texas TSB 43AB22A no |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte X38-DQ6 | <!--Chipset-->X38 / ICH9R Chipset | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 ports | <!--Gfx-->PCI-E 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC889A HDA | <!--USB-->4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->twin 8111B 8169 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-EP45 DS3 (2008) | <!--Chipset-->P45 + ICH9 or ICH10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 x SATA 3Gbit/s (SATAII0, SATAII1, SATAII2, SATAII3, SATAII4, SATAII5) | <!--Gfx-->two PCI-E v2.0 x16 slots support splitting its 16 PCIe 2.0 lanes across two cards at x8 transfers | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC888 or ALC889A codec | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->2 x Realtek 8111C chips (10/100 /1000 Mbit) | <!--Opinion-->4 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets non-EEC |- | <!--Name-->MSI P45 Platinum (2008) | <!--Chipset-->P45 + ICH9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 sata2 ports | <!--Gfx-->two PCI-E x16 v2.0 slots | <!--Audio-->ALC888 HD Audio | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->G45 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->adds Intel’s GMA X4500HD graphics engine to P45 Express features | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->G43 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->GMA X4500 2d | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->removes HD video acceleration from the G45’s features |- | <!--Name-->Asus P5E Deluxe | <!--Chipset--> X48 with ICH9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ADI 1988B codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Marvell 88E8001 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->GigaByte GA-X48 DQ6 | <!--Chipset-->X48 plus ICH9R | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->8 ports | <!--Gfx-->two PCI-E x16 v2.0 slots | <!--Audio-->ALC889A | <!--USB-->8 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->RTL 8111B 8169 | <!--Opinion-->Firewire TSB43AB23 no - ICH9 pairs with Intel’s 3-series (X38, P35, etc.) chipsets, in addition to the X48 Express, but excluding the G35 Express |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte EP43-DS3L and Gigabyte GA-EP43-UD3L | <!--Chipset-->P43 with ICH10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->1 port | <!--SATA-->6 x SATA 3Gbit/s connectors | <!--Gfx-->1 x PCI Express x16 slot PCI Express 2.0 standard | <!--Audio-->HD Audio with ALC888 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8111C | <!--Opinion-->4 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets - 4 pcie x1 - 2 pci - ATX Form Factor; 30.5cm x 21.0cm |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte 73-pvm-s2h rev.1.0 | <!--Chipset-->NVIDIA GeForce 7100 nForce 630i | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{Yes|1 port}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|3 ports SATA2}} | <!--Gfx-->{{Maybe|Vesa 2d GeForce 7100 (vga /hdmi/dvi), 1 PCIe x16 Slot }} | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|Realtek ALC889A MCP73}} | <!--USB-->{{Yes|7 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL 8211B MCP73}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire Not, tested with Icaros Desktop 2.0.3 MCP73 is a single chip solution in three different versions |- | <!--Name-->Nvidia 7150 630i | <!--Chipset-->intel based nForce 630i (MCP73) | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|ide legacy}} | <!--GFX-->GF 7150 | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD AUDIO ALC883}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|ohci echi}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|RTL8201C}} | <!--Opinion-->being tested |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2.0 x16 | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> the MCP73PV or the GeForce 7050/nForce 630i |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->the MCP73S or the GeForce7025/nForce 630i |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->the MCP73V or the GeForce 7025/nForce 610i |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Atom SOC (2008/2x)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->D945CLF | <!--Chipset-->N230 single core | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|GMA945}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC662}} Skt 441 | <!--USB-->{{yes|uhci and ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} | <!--Opinion-->works very well |- | <!--Name-->[http://www.clusteruk.com iMica D945GCKF2 mobo] | <!--Chipset-->Intel Atom N330 Dual Core | <!--ACPI-->wip | <!--IDE-->{{yes|IDE}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|gma}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD AUDIO}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|uhci ehci}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->D945GSEJT + Morex T1610 | <!--Chipset-->Atom 230 with 945GSE | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|GMA900 vga but issues with DVI output}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio with ALC662 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169 8111DL}} | <!--Opinion-->small size, runs off 12V |- | <!--Name-->ASUS AT3N7A-I | <!--Chipset-->Atom N330 Nvidia ION | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|3 ports legacy IDE}} | <!--Gfx-->{{yes|nouveau cube cube 2 45 quake 3 }} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio with VIA 1708S codec playback}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8169 device}} | <!--Opinion--><ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAiJpvu73iw</ref> good but can freeze randomly at times |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->D410PT 45nm pinetrail | <!--Chipset-->D410 and NM10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{maybe|ide legacy}} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|GMA3150}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|ALC262 or ALC66x odd clicks}} | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|RTL8111DL}} | <!--Opinion-->some support |- | <!--Name-->45nm pinetrail | <!--Chipset-->D510 and NM10 + GMA3150 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->GMA3150 | <!--Audio-->ALC888B or ALC66x | <!--USB-->{{yes}} | <!--Ethernet-->RTL8111DL | <!--Opinion-->some support |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-D525TUD (rev. 1.0 1.2 1.5) | <!--Chipset-->D525 NM10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->gma 3150 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC887 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111f | <!--Opinion-->2012 64 - 2 ddr3 dimm slots max 8g - Mini-ITX Form Factor; 17.0cm x 17.0cm - |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- |} =====Socket 1366 (2009/10)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P6T DELUXE | <!--Chipset-->x58 + ICH10 and Intel 1st gen. (Nehalem/Lynnfield) Core i7 (8xx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{yes|1 port}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx-->2 PCIe x16 (r2.0) slots | <!--Audio-->ADI AD2000B HD Audio | <!--USB-->{{yes|4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Marvell 88E8056 Gigabit}} | <!--Opinion-->Firewire VIA VT6308 no |- | <!--Name-->gigabyte ex58 ds | <!--Chipset--> x58 + ICH10 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8111D rtl8169 | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket 1156 (2010)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Acer Aspire M3910 | <!--Chipset-->i3 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA intel HD}} | <!--Audio-->{{unk|HDAudio with Realtek ALC}} | <!--USB-->{{yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk| Realtek}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2H | <!--Chipset-->H55 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->PCIe slot | <!--Audio-->{{Yes|ALCxxx playback}} ALC888B (Rev1.x) | <!--USB-->{{Yes| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|RTL8111D}} (Rev 1.x) | <!--Opinion-->Tested but no support for WLAN Realtek 8188su |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI H55M-E33 v1.0 | <!--Chipset-->E7636 M7636 H55 chipset so older i3/i5/i7 system | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HD Audio ALC889}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|PCI-E Realtek 8111DL}} | <!--Opinion-->Works well |- | <!--Name-->Asus P7P55D | <!--Chipset-->P55 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{unk| }} | <!--SATA-->{{unk| }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{maybe | via codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk| }} | <!--Ethernet-->{{maybe |rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111B/C RTL8112L }} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA 1155 H2 (2010/13)===== {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS P8H61-I LX R2.0 | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->1 pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 8111f | <!--Opinion-->2013 - up to ivybridge cpus - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->Asus P8H61-I/RM/SI mini-itx | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2012 64 up to i3-2010 - OEM board from an RM machine but not ivybridge as the Asus BIOS isn't compatible with these, 0909 hacked one might work - |- | <!--Name-->asus p8h61-i lx r2.0/rm/si mini itx | <!--Chipset-->h61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2.0 | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with VIA codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111e | <!--Opinion-->2012 sandy and ivy - oem from rm machine 2 x 240-Pin DDR3 DIMM sockets max DDR3 1333MHz - |- | <!--Name-->‎Bewinner 63q9c7omvs V301 ITX | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata with nvme | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 4 | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek 8106E 100M Network Card | <!--Opinion-->2022 64 |- | <!--Name-->Biostar H61 H61MHV2 H61MHV3 Ver. 7.0 | <!--Chipset-->H61 with Intel Pentium G 2xxx series CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Realtek ALC662 later ALC897 | <!--USB-->4 usb2 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 Realtek RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->2014 - 2 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H61M-D2-B3 | <!--Chipset-->H61 + Sandybridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->ALC889 | <!--USB-->2 ports | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H61MA-D3V | <!--Chipset-->H61 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Maybe No Realtek ALC887 (Rev 2.0) ALC887 (Rev2.1) | <!--USB-->2 ports | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek RTL8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->GA-H61M-S2PV | <!--Chipset-->H61 with 2400k 2500k 2600k 2700k | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 2.0 slot | <!--Audio-->ALC887 (rev 1.0 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3) | <!--USB-->4 USB 2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Rtl811E (1.0) 8151 (2.0) Rtl8111F (2.1 2.2 2.3) | <!--Opinion-->Micro ATX Form Factor; 24.4cm x 20cm with 2 pci-e and 2 pci - |- | <!--Name-->Intel Classic Series DH61CR Desktop | <!--Chipset-->H61 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 ports | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC892 | <!--USB-->4 ports | <!--Ethernet-->{{no|Intel 82579V}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI H61M-P20 (G3) MS-7788 *retail MSI board *OEM Advent, etc | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|four SATAII ports}} | <!--Gfx-->1 PCI Express gen3 (retail) gen2 (oem) x16 slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|Realtek 8105E 100M Network Card}} | <!--Opinion-->2012 64bit - 2 ddr3 slots - 22.6cm(L) x 17.3cm(W) M-ATX Form Factor - BIOS - [https://www.arosworld.org/infusions/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=1149&rowstart=140&pid=6009#post_6007 works well], |- | <!--Name-->MSI H61I-E35 (B3) MS-7677 Ver.1.2 | <!--Chipset-->H61 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->{{maybe|VESA 2d for hdmi}} | <!--Audio-->{{yes|https://www.arosworld.org/infusions/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=1149&rowstart=140&pid=5861#post_5861 works}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P8H67-M | <!--Chipset-->H67 + | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata3 - 4 sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC887 | <!--USB-->6 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus P8Z68-V LX | <!--Chipset-->Z68 + Intel 2nd generation (Sandy Bridge) Core i7 (2xxx) CPU and possibly ivybridgev | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|2 sata3 - 4 sata2}} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->{{yes|HDAudio Intel HD with ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{yes|2 USB3.0 - 4 USB2.0}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{yes|rtl8169 Realtek® 8111E}} | <!--Opinion-->2011 64bit SSE 4.1 and AVX - EFI bios - 4 ddr3 dimm slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 (B3) | <!--Chipset-->Z68 + Ivybridge | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata3 - 4 sata2 | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC889 | <!--USB-->2 USB3.0 - 4 USB2.0 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® 8111E | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->H77 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H77-D3H 1.0 1.1 | <!--Chipset-->H77 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata 3.0 | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio VIA VT2021 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros GbE LAN chip}} | <!--Opinion-->2013 64bit i5 3550 7 3770 - 4 DDR3 slots - 2 full pci-e 2 pci slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA Z77 D3H with i3 3225 dual | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{No|HDAudio VIA VT2021 codec}} | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->{{No|Atheros GbE LAN chip}} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA 1150 H3 (2013/2016)===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H87N-WIFI mITX | <!--Chipset-->H87 and Intel 4th generation (Haswell) Core i5 (4xxx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Intel Atheros | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus H81M-C H81M-P-SI | <!--Chipset-->H81 with 4th generation (Haswell) Core i7 (4xxx) CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2x3g 2x6g | <!--Gfx-->pci-e slot | <!--Audio-->hdaudio alc887 vd | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->realtek 8111gr | <!--Opinion-->skt 1150 - 2 ddr3 max 16g - mini atx - |- | <!--Name-->Asus H81T | <!--Chipset-->H81 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->HD4000 igpu only | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC887-VD | <!--USB-->Intel USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 realtek 8111G | <!--Opinion-->2013 64bit intel 4th gen mini itx - external dc brick with 19v rare barrel pin 7.4MM x 5.0MM - 2 ddr3 laptop sodimm slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H81M-S2V | <!--Chipset-->H81 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A|}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio ALC887 | <!--USB-->USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® GbE LAN chip | <!--Opinion-->2014 64bit up to i7 4790K - 2 DDR3 slots - |- | <!--Name-->GA-H81M-D3V (rev. 1.0) | <!--Chipset-->H81 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A| }} | <!--SATA-->{{yes|2 sata2 2 sata3 }} | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->{{unk| HDAudio Realtek® ALC887 codec}} | <!--USB-->{{unk|intel and VIA® VL805}} | <!--Ethernet-->{{unk|rtl8169 Realtek }} | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Z87-K | <!--Chipset-->Z87 with 4th generation (Haswell) Core i7 4c8t i5 4c4t CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H | <!--Chipset-->Z87 Express | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with Realtek® ALC898 codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA H97M D3H r1.0 r1.1 with i3 4360 or 4370 dual | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC892 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Z97 A with i7 4790K | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx-->750, 960, 970 and 980 nvidia GTX cards | <!--Audio-->Intel HD with ALC | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan ethernet | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA Z97X UD3H rev1.0 1.1 1.2 | <!--Chipset-->Z97 with i5 4690K | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio-->HDaudio with ALC1150 | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI GAMING 5 Z97 | <!--Chipset-->Z97 with 4th generation (Haswell) Core i7 4c8t CPU | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->ASUS Q87M-E | <!--Chipset-->Q87 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2014 64bit - 4 DDR3 slots - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->H99 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} =====Socket LGA 1151 Socket H4 (2015/2018)===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->Skylake CPUs have TPM 2.0 imbedded |- | <!--Name-->Asus H110 Plus H110M-A/DP | <!--Chipset--> with 6th Gen Core and 7th with bios update | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA-->Sunrise Point-H SATA [AHCI mode] [8086 a102] | <!--Gfx-->{{No|Skylake Integrated HD Graphics use PIC-E slot}} | <!--Audio-->Intel HD Audio with Realtek ALC887 Audio CODEC | <!--USB-->Sunrise Point-H USB 3.0 xHCI [8086: a12f] no usb2.0 fallback | <!--Ethernet-->{{Yes|Realtek 8111GR or 8111H RTL8111 8168 8411}} | <!--Opinion-->ATX with 3 pci-e and 2 DDR4 slots - uatx version smaller - turn off TLSF as it was causing AHI driver to corrupt. Turned off ACPI for errors but works fine once booted - |- | <!--Name-->ASUS H110M-R M-ATX | <!--Chipset-->H110 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 x SATA 6Gb/s | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio Realtek® ALC887 codec | <!--USB-->Intel USB3 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® RTL8111H | <!--Opinion-->2016 64bit 6th Gen Skylake Core™ i7/Core™ 6950X i7-6970HQ i7-6700K 4c8t hyperthreading, i5/Core™ i5-6600K 4c4t i3/Pentium® / Celeron® - 2 DDR4 DIMMS Max 32GB 2133MHz - 1 full pci-e and 2 pci-e 1 - |- | <!--Name-->Asus H110T | <!--Chipset-->H110 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->2 sata | <!--Gfx-->intel igpu only | <!--Audio-->HDaudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->Dual Intel/Realtek GbE languard | <!--Opinion-->2016 - mini itx 12v / 19v laptop type rare barrel pin 7.4MM x 5.0MM - 2 sodimm ddr4 slots - no pci-e slot - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2H MATX Rev1.0 | <!--Chipset-->H110 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 | <!--Audio-->Realtek® ALC887 codec | <!--USB-->2 (USB 3.1 Gen 1) ports with 4 us2 | <!--Ethernet-->Realtek® GbE LAN | <!--Opinion--> 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name-->Msi H110M-PRO-VH | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 x SATA 6Gb/s | <!--Gfx-->pci-e 3.0 | <!--Audio--> Realtek® ALC887 Codec | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->rtl8169 rtl8111h | <!--Opinion--> 6th gen intel - 2 ddr4 slots |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus H170 Pro Gaming | <!--Chipset-->H170 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sata | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB-->Asmedia USB3.1/3.0 | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->MSI Z170A TOMAHAWK | <!--Chipset-->Z170 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE-->{{N/A}} | <!--SATA-->4 sara, 1 x 2280 Key M(PCIe Gen3 x4/SATA), 1 x 2230 Key E(Wi-Fi) | <!--Gfx-->pci-e | <!--Audio-->HDAudio | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet-->intel lan | <!--Opinion-->2016 64bit up to i7 7700k - 2 DDR4 - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->GIGABYTE GA-B250M-DS3H HD3P D3H D2V | <!--Chipset-->B250 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2018 coffee lake intel 8th gen |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus | <!--Chipset--> with Kaby Lake X Intel 7th Gen | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> up to 16 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus | <!--Chipset--> Z390 with Kaby Lake X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> up to 16 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> Q370M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> H370M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> B360M | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Asus Rampage | <!--Chipset-->x299 with i9 | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> - up to 24 to 44 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name-->Gigabyte | <!--Chipset--X299 > | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket LGA 1200 (2020/2022)===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- | <!--Name-->MSI H510M-A PRO (MS-7D22) | <!--Chipset--> with 10th gen Comet Lake X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2021 64bit - up to 16 pcie lanes rebar possible |- | <!--Name-->Asus PRIME H410M-E Asrock H470M-HDV/M.2 | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name-->Asus | <!--Chipset--> with 11th gen Rocket Lake X | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> up to 16 pcie lanes |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |} =====Socket LGA 1700 (2023/ )===== [[#top|...to the top]] {| class="wikitable sortable" width="90%" ! width="10%" |Name ! width="5%" |Chipset ! width="5%" |ACPI ! width="5%" |IDE ! width="5%" |SATA ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |USB ! width="10%" |Ethernet ! width="30%" |Opinion |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Alder Lake / 14th gen Raptor Lake | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2021 2022 64bit - QoS work to 2 level cpus, P down to E cores - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Meteor Lake / 15th gen Arrow Lake | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2023 2024 64bit 10nm - 3 level cpus, Low Power Island (SOC tile) to E onto P cores - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |- style="background:lightgrey; text-align:center; font-weight:bold;" | Name || Chipset || ACPI || IDE || SATA || Gfx || Audio || USB || Ethernet || Opinion |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset-->Lunar lake | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion-->2025 64bit 7nm - |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- | <!--Name--> | <!--Chipset--> | <!--ACPI--> | <!--IDE--> | <!--SATA--> | <!--Gfx--> | <!--Audio--> | <!--USB--> | <!--Ethernet--> | <!--Opinion--> |- |} ===Chromebooks=== For most (EOL) cromebooks, the recommended UEFI path forward is to: *put the device into Developer Mode *disable firmware write protection *flash MrChromebox's UEFI Full ROM firmware *install ChromeOS Flex, Linux, etc See [https://mrchromebox.tech/#home MrChrome], [https://mrchromebox.tech MrChrome] and the [https://www.reddit.com/r/chrultrabook/ chrultrabook subreddit] for more info ChromeOS has several different boot modes, which are important to understand in the context of modifying your device to run an alternate OS: *Normal/Verified Boot Mode Can only boot Google-signed ChromeOS images Full verification of firmware and OS kernel No root access to the system, no ability to run Linux or boot other OSes Automatically enters Recovery Mode if any step of Verified Boot fails Default / out-of-the-box setting for all ChromeOS devices *Recovery Mode User presented with Recovery Mode boot screen (white screen with 'ChromeOS is missing or damaged') Boots only USB/SD with signed Google recovery image Automatically entered when Verified Boot Mode fails Can be manually invoked: On Chromebooks, via keystroke: [ESC+Refresh+Power] On Chromeboxes, by pressing a physical recovery button at power-on On Convertibles/Tablets, by holding the Power, Vol+, and Vol- buttons for 10s and then release Allows for transition from Verified Boot Mode to Developer Mode On Chromebooks/Chromeboxes, via keystroke: [CTRL+D] On Convertibles/Tablets, via button press: Vol+/Vol- simultaneously Booting recovery media on USB/SD will repartition/reformat internal storage and reload ChromeOS Note: The ChromeOS recovery process does not reset the firmware boot flags (GBB Flags), so if those are changed from the default, they will still need to be reset for factory default post-recovery. *Developer Mode "Jailbreak" mode built-in to every ChromeOS device Loosened security restrictions, allows root/shell access, ability to run Linux via crouton Verified Boot (signature checking) disabled by default, but can be re-enabled Enabled via [CTRL+D] on the Recovery Mode boot screen Boots to the developer mode boot screen (white screen with 'OS verification is off' text), The user can select via keystroke <pre> ChromeOS (in developer mode) on internal storage ( [CTRL+D] ) ChromeOS/ChromiumOS on USB ( [CTRL+U] ) Legacy Boot Mode ( [CTRL+L] ) </pre> Boot screen displays the ChromeOS device/board name in the hardware ID string (eg, PANTHER F5U-C92, which is useful to know in the context of device recovery, firmware support, or in determining what steps are required to install a given alternate OS on the device. *Legacy Boot Mode Unsupported method for booting alternate OSes (Linux, Windows) via the SeaBIOS RW_LEGACY firmware Accessed via [CTRL+L] on the developer mode boot screen Requires explicit enabling in Developer Mode via command line: sudo crossystem dev_boot_legacy=1 Most ChromeOS devices require a RW_LEGACY firmware update first Boots to the (black) SeaBIOS splash screen; if multiple boot devices are available, prompt shows the boot menu Note: If you hear two beeps after pressing [CTRL+L], then either your device doesn't have a valid Legacy Boot Mode / RW_LEGACY firmware installed, or legacy boot capability has not been been enabled via crossystem. https://www.howtogeek.com/278953/how-to-install-windows-on-a-chromebook/ Chromebooks don’t officially support other OSs. You normally can’t even install as Chromebooks ship with a special type of BIOS designed for Chrome OS. But there are ways to install, if you’re willing to get your hands dirty and potentially ruin everything [https://mrchromebox.tech/#devices Firmware Compatibility] [https://wiki.galliumos.org/Hardware_Compatibility Here is the list of hardware that the GalliumOS supports and information on getting Gallium OS on to those devices] Development on GalliumOS has been discontinued, and for most users, GalliumOS is not the best option for running Linux due to lack of hardware support or a kernel that's out of date and lacking important security fixes. Meet Eupnea and Depthboot, the successors to Galliumos and Breath [https://eupnea-linux.github.io This is the bleeding edge] Most older Chromebooks need the write-protect screw removed in order to install MrChromebox's firmware that allows you to install other operating systems. Most newer Chromebooks don't work in the same way as there is no write-protect screw on them. Very rough guide to '''total''' (i.e. all cores / threads) processor performance (AROS usually uses only the [https://gmplib.org/gmpbench one core]) [[#top|...to the top]] <pre> 060000 AMD Ryzen 9 7900X (AM5 170W) 056000 AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 055000 AMD Ryzen 9 5900X3D 053000 AMD Ryzen 9 5900X (AM4 105W), AMD Ryzen 9 3950X (105W), 049000 AMD Ryzen 9 PRO 7940HS (FP8 65W) 048000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 047000 AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 7840HS (FP7 65W), AMD Ryzen 7 8840HS, AMD Ryzen Z2 Extreme, 045000 AMD Ryzen 9 6900HX, Intel Core i7-12800H 044000 AMD Ryzen 7 5700G (AM4 ), AMD Ryzen 9 6900HS, 043000 Intel Core i5-13500H, AMD Ryzen 5 5600X3D (AM4 95W), AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 5750GE (AM4 35W) 042000 AMD Ryzen 7 5700GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen Z1 Extreme (top TDP), AMD Ryzen 5 8600G, 041500 AMD Ryzen 9 5900HS, Intel Core i7-12700T, AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS (8c16t 45W), AMD 8840U, 041000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800H (FP6 45W), AMD Ryzen 5 5600 (65W), 040000 AMD Ryzen 7 6800U, Intel Core i5-12490F, Intel Core i5-12500E, 039000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800HS (FP6 35W), AMD Ryzen 5 8500G 8600GE, AMD Ryzen Z2 (8c16t), 037000 AMD Ryzen 5 6600H, AMD Ryzen 3 7736U, AMD Ryzen 5 7640U, 036000 AMD Ryzen 5 3600X (95W), AMD Ryzen 5 5500 (AM4 65W), 035000 AMD Ryzen 5 6600U, Intel Core i5-11400F, AMD Ryzen 5 5600H, 034000 AMD Ryzen 7 7730U (FP6 15W 8c16t), AMD Ryzen 5 8540U, AMD Ryzen 4800H, AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 5650GE, 033000 AMD Ryzen 7 5800U (FP6 25W 8c16t), AMD Ryzen 7 4800HS, AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750GE, 032500 AMD Ryzen 7 2700X, AMD Ryzen 5 5600GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen Z1, AMD Ryzen 7 7840U, 032000 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650G (AM4 45W), AMD Ryzen 7 4800U, AMD Ryzen 7 5825U (FP6 8c16t 15W), 031500 AMD Ryzen 5 4500 (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (65W), AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750U (8c16t), 029000 AMD Ryzen 5 4600G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 1700X (AM4 95W), 028500 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 5675U, AMD Ryzen 7 1700 (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 7 2700 (65W), M3 Pro 12c, 028000 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 5650U, AMD Ryzen 5 4400G, AMD Ryzen 5 5560U (FP6 25W 6c12t Zen3), 027000 AMD Ryzen 5 5600U (FP6 25W 6c12t Zen3), 026500 AMD Ryzen 5 4600HS (FP6 35W 6c12t), Apple M1 Pro, AMD Ryzen 5 5625U (FP6 15W 6c12t), 026000 AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 5350GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen 5 2600 (65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3500X (AM4 95W), 024000 AMD Ryzen 5 1600X (95W), AMD Ryzen 3 5300GE, AMD Ryzen 7 5700U (FP6 25W 8c16t Zen2), 023000 AMD Ryzen 3 7330U (FP6 15W 4c8t), AMD Ryzen 7 4700U (FP6 25W 8c8t), AMD Ryzen V3C18I (? 15W), 022000 Intel Core i5-11300H, AMD Ryzen Z2 Go (4c8t), AMD Ryzen 5 5500U (FP6 25W 6c12t Zen2), 020500 AMD Ryzen 3 4300G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 3 5450U 5425U, AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650U (6c12t), 019500 Intel Core i5-1135G7, AMD Ryzen 5 5500H, AMD Ryzen 5 4600U (FP6 25W 6c), 019000 AMD Ryzen 5 3400G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 2500X, AMD Ryzen 5 7520U, 017750 AMD Ryzen 5 3400GE (AM4 35W), Intel Core i5-8400, AMD Ryzen 5 1500X (AM4 65W), 017500 Intel Core i7-6700K, Intel i5-10400, AMD Ryzen 5 4500U (FP6 25W 6c6t), AMD Ryzen 3 5400U, 017000 AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 4350GE (AM4 35W), AMD Ryzen 3 5300U (FP6 25W 4c8t), 016500 AMD Ryzen 7 3750H, AMD Ryzen Embedded V1756B (FP5 45W), AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 4200GE, 016000 AMD Ryzen 5 2400G (AM4 65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3550H, Intel Core i7-6700T, 015000 AMD Ryzen 3 7320U, Ryzen 7 3700U, Ryzen 3200G (AM4 65W), Intel Core i7-8550U, 014000 AMD Ryzen 5 2400GE (AM4 35W), Intel Core i5-8500T, AMD Ryzen 2700U, AMD Ryzen 5 3550U, 013500 AMD Ryzen 5 3500U (FP5 15W 4c8t), AMD Ryzen 3 4300U, AMD Athlon Gold 4150GE, 013250 AMD Ryzen 3 3200GE (AM4 45W), AMD Ryzen 3 1300X (65W), AMD Ryzen 3 2200G, 013000 AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 2500U (FP4 25W), AMD Ryzen Embedded V1605B (FP5 25W), 012500 AMD Ryzen 5 2500U (FP5 25W 4c8t), Intel Core i3-8300T, Intel Xeon X5680, 012300 Intel Core i7-8565U, Intel Core i5-8350U, Intel Core i7-8700, 012200 ARM Cortex-X3 Prime Snapdragon SD8G2 Gen2 4nm 64-bit Kryo CPU, 012000 AMD Ryzen 3 2200GE, AMD Ryzen 3 1200 (65W), AMD Ryzen 5 3500C, 011500 AMD Ryzen 3 3300U, Intel Core i3-8100T, Intel Core i5-8265U 010500 AMD Ryzen 3 2300U (FP5 25W 4c4t), 010300 Intel Core i7-3630QM, Intel Core i5-6600T, 010200 Intel Core i5-6440HQ, Intel Core i7-3610QM, 010000 AMD FX-8320E (AM3+ 125W 8c8t), Intel Core i5-7500T, Intel Core i5-4690, 008700 AMD FX-6130 (AM3+ 90W 6c6t), Intel Core i5-7400T, Intel Core i5-4590T, 008600 Intel Core i5-6500T, AMD Athlon 300GE (AM4, 35W), AMD Athlon Gold 7220U, 008500 AMD Ryzen R1606G (FP5 15W), AMD FX-6300 (AM3 65W 6c6t), Intel Core i5-2500K, 008000 AMD Ryzen 3 3200U, AMD Ryzen 3 3250U, Intel Alderlake ULX N100 / N95, i7-7600U, 007200 AMD Ryzen 3 2200U (FP5 25W 2c4t), Intel Core i3-7100T, Intel Twinlakes N150 N200, 006900 AMD Ryzen R1505G (FP5, 15W), Intel Core i7-6600U, Qualcomm Snapdragon 888 5G, 006500 Intel Core i7-6500U, AMD Athlon Gold 3150U, Intel Celeron N5105 (FCBGA1338, 15W), 006300 Intel Core i3-8130 (15W), Intel Celeron N5095 (FCBGA1338 15W), 006100 Intel Core i5-6300U, Intel Core i5-7200U, Snapdragon 7325, Intel i7-5500U, 006060 AMD A10-6800B APU, Intel Core i5-4570T, Intel Core i5-5257U, 006000 Intel Core i5-6200U, Intel Core i3-7130U, Qualcomm Snapdragon 888 4G, Intel i7-4500U, 005900 AMD Athlon Silver 3050U, Intel Xeon X5550, Intel Core i5-4300M, ARM A76 RK3588, 005800 Intel Celeron J4125 J4105 (FCBGA1090 15W), Intel Core i5-3470T, AMD A8-6600K APU, 005600 Intel Core i5-3360M, Intel Core i7-3520M, Intel Core i5-4210M, ARM A76 RK3588S, 005400 ARM Cortex-A78 MediaTek Dimensity 1200 900, AMD Athlon Silver 7120U, Snapdragon 860, 005300 AMD PRO A12-9800B 7th Gen APU (FP4 15W), AMD FX-4300 4c4t, AMD Ryzen R1305G, 005200 AMD PRO A10-8770E, AMD A10-9700E, AMD PRO A10-9700B (FP4 15W), Intel Core i3-4130T, 005100 AMD RX-427BB (FP3 15W), AMD A10-9620P, AMD A12-9720P, Intel Core i5-5350U, Intel Core i3-8145U, 005100 AMD A8-5500 (FM2 65W), AMD A10 PRO-7800B APU, Intel Pentium Silver N5000, 005100 Intel Core i3-7100U (FCBGA1356 15W), Intel Core i7-5500U, Intel Core i3-6100U, 005000 Intel Core i5-5300U, Intel Core i5-3320M, AMD Athlon 300U, 004900 Intel Core i5-4300U, Intel Core i5-5200U, Intel Core i3-4100M, 004860 Intel Core i7-2620M, Intel Core i7-2640M, 004650 Intel Core i5-2520M, Intel Core i5-3210M, AMD A10-9600P (FP4 4c 15W), 004600 AMD PRO A8-9600B, AMD PRO A12-8830B, AMD PRO A10-8730B, AMD A12-9700P, 004400 AMD A10-8700P A8-8600P, Intel Core i5-4200U, Intel Core i5-2540M, 004000 Intel Core i5-2430M, AMD PRO A8-8600B, AMD 3020e, MT6797, 003850 Intel Core i5-2410M, Intel Core i3-2120 (LGA1155 65W), 003800 AMD A10-4600M APU, AMD A10 PRO-7350B APU, AMD A10-5750M APU, 003600 AMD A8-6500T APU, AMD A8-7410 APU, AMD PRO A6-8550B, AMD A8-5550M APU 003500 AMD GX-424CC SOC (FT3b 25W 4c4t), Intel Core i3-4000M, 003450 ARM A75 Unisoc Tiger T610 (8c 5W), 003400 AMD A10-7300 APU, AMD A6-7310 APU, AMD A8-6410, AMD A10-5745M APU 003350 Intel Pentium G2020, Intel Core i3-3120M, AMD R-464L APU, 003300 AMD GX-420CA SOC (FT3 BGA769 25W), AMD A6-9500E, 003200 AMD A6-6310 APU, AMD A6-6400B APU, AMD A6-8570E, AMD A8-4500M APU, AMD A6-7400K APU 003000 AMD A8-7150B, AMD A9-9410 / A9-9425, AMD A6-8500B (FP4 15W), AMD A8-7100, 002900 AMD PRO A6-8530B, AMD A6-8500P, AMD A8-3500M APU, Intel Core i3-2120T, 002700 AMD Embedded GX-420GI (FP4 15W), AMD PRO A6-9500B, AMD GX-415GA, AMD A4-6210 APU, 002600 AMD A6-9225, AMD A8-4555M APU, 002500 AMD A4-5000 APU (FT3 15W), AMD A6-9220, AMD A6-3420M APU, 002450 Intel Celeron 2950M, Intel Pentium N3700, Intel Core i3-2350M, 002400 Intel Celeron N3150, Intel Core i3-2330M, Intel Xeon W3505, 002300 Intel Celeron N3350, AMD A4-9120, AMD A4-9125, Intel Core i3-2310M, 002200 AMD A9-9420e, AMD A6-5350M APU, AMD E2-6110 APU, AMD A6-9210, AMD E2-9000e, 002000 AMD GX-412HC, AMD A4-4300M APU, AMD A6 PRO-7050B APU, AMD A6-4400M APU, AMD A6-7000, 001925 Intel Core2 Duo E6700, Intel Pentium Extreme Edition 965, Intel Core i3-370M, 001750 Intel Core i3-2365M 2375M, AMD A4-9120C, Intel Core2 Duo T8300, AMD E2-3800, Qualcomm MSM8939, 001600 AMD GX-222GC (BGA769 FT3b 15W), AMD A4-9120e, AMD Embedded GX-215JJ, AMD A4-4355M APU, 001550 Intel Core2 Duo SL9400 T7600 T6600, AMD E2-3200, AMD A6-9220e, MT8783, 001500 AMD GX-218GL SOC, AMD A6-4455M, AMD A4-5150M APU, ARM A55 RK3566 (4c 3W), 001400 AMD GX-217GA SOC, ARM Cortex-A53 4c4t H700, Allwinner A133P, AMD A4-3300M APU, 001300 AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-64 TL-62, Intel Core2 Duo T7300, Intel Core2 Duo T5600, 001250 AMD GX-412TC SOC, AMD A4-3320M APU, AMD Athlon 64 X2 QL-66, Intel Core2 Duo T7200 001200 AMD Athlon 64 X2 2c TK-57, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-60 RM-74, AMD E1-2500 APU 001150 Intel Core2 Duo T5550, Intel Core2 Duo L7500, AMD E2-3000M APU, ARM A35 RK3266, 001100 Intel Core2 Duo T5300, AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800, Intel Core2 Duo E4300, MT8127, 001050 AMD E1-6010 APU, Intel Pentium T4300, 001050 AMD Athlon 64 FX-57, AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core TK-55, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-52 001000 Intel Core2 Duo T5500, Intel Core2 Duo L7300, Intel Core2 Duo SU9400, 000950 AMD G-T56N, AMD Athlon 64 3100+, AMD E2-2000 APU, 000950 AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-50, AMD E1-2200 APU, Intel Celeron U3400, 000925 AMD TurionX2 Dual Core Mobile RM-72, AMD Sempron 140 000920 Intel Celeron SU2300, Intel Core2 Duo T5200, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-56 000890 AMD E2-1800 APU, AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-58 000880 AMD G-T56E, AMD G-T48E, 000860 AMD E-450 APU, AMD E-350 APU, AMD Athlon LE-1620 000820 AMD A4-1250 APU, AMD Athlon LE-1600, 000810 AMD E1-2100 APU, Intel Core Duo T2500, 000810 Intel Atom D510, Intel Core2 Duo U7500, 000800 AMD Geode NX 2400+, AMD Turion 64 Mobile ML-42, AMD Athlon II Neo K325, 000760 AMD V140, AMD E1-1200 APU, AMD Athlon 64 3300+, 000730 Intel Core Duo T2400, AMD Turion 64 Mobile MK-38, AMD Sempron 3600+, 000700 Intel Core2 Duo U7600 U7700, AMD Sempron LE-1200, AMD V120 000680 AMD GX-212JC SOC, AMD E-300 APU, AMD A4-1200 APU, 000670 AMD Turion 64 Mobile MK-36 ML-37 ML-40, Mobile AMD Sempron 3800+ 000640 Intel Atom N2600, Intel Atom N570, Mobile AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 000640 Intel Core Duo T2300, Intel Core Duo T2050, 000630 VIA Eden X2 U4200, AMD Sempron LE-1100, AMD Sempron 3100+ 3600+, 000620 AMD C-70 C70 APU, Intel Atom 330, AMD G-T40N, AMD Athlon Neo MV-40, 000610 Intel Core2 Duo U7300, AMD Athlon II Neo K125 K145, 000600 Intel Atom N550, Intel Pentium 4, AMD Athlon 64 2800+, 000580 AMD C-60 C60, AMD G-T40E, AMD Sempron LE-1250 000530 AMD C-50 C50, Intel Celeron M 723, AMD Sempron 210U, 000490 AMD GX-210JA SOC, PowerPC 970 G5 IBM's 970 server CPU (2c), 000470 Mobile AMD Sempron 3500+, Mobile AMD Athlon XP-M 2200+, 000460 AMD Athlon XP 2500+, AMD Sempron 3500+, Mobile Intel Pentium 4, 000440 Intel Atom D425, Intel Atom N470, POWER 4 PPC, 000410 Intel Pentium M, Intel Celeron M, AMD Sempron 2300+ 000400 Intel Atom N450, AMD Sempron 2400+, 000340 Intel Atom D410, AMD G-T52R, AMD C-30, AMD Sempron 2200+ 000330 Intel Atom N455, Intel Atom N280, Intel Atom N270 (1c1t 2W), Intel P3, 000320 Freescale NXP QorIQ P1022 000310 PowerPC G4 7447 1Ghz (1c1t 15W), PPC440 core, 000230 PowerPC PPC G3/PPC 750, 000160 Pentium II, Motorola 68060 000080 Intel 80486, Motorola 68030, 000040 Intel 80386, 000030 Motorola 68020 000008 Motorola 68000 </pre> === Recommended hardware (32-bit) === [[#top|...to the top]] Recommended hardware is hardware that has been tested with latest release of AROS and is relatively easy to purchase second hand (ie. ebay). This hardware also comes with commitment that compatibility will be maintained with each future release. If in future decision will be made to drop any of the recommended hardware from the list (for example due to it no longer being available for purchase), such hardware will move to list of legacy supported systems and will have an indicated end of life date so that users have time to switch to other hardware. {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" | <!--OK-->{{Yes|'''Works well'''}} || <!--Not working-->{{No|'''Does not work'''}} || <!--Not applicable-->{{N/A|'''N/A not applicable'''}} |- |} ==== Virtual Hardware ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | VirtualBox 7.x (Other/Unknown template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|PCNET32<br/>E1000}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- | VMware 16+ (Other32 template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|PCNET32}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- | QEMU 8.x ("pc" and "q35" machines) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|PCNET32}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- |} ==== Laptops ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | ACER Aspire One ZG5 || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(IDE)}} || {{Yes|GMA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|RTL8169}} || {{Yes|ATHEROS}} || NOT APPLICABLE || <!--Comments--> |- | Dell Latitude D520 || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{Yes|GMA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|BCM4400}} || {{No|}} || {{Yes|Atheros AR5BXB63}} || * select Intel Core 2 64-bit version, not Celeron 32-bit version <br/> * replace WiFi card to get wireless working |- |} ==== Desktop Systems ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | Fujitsu Futro S720 || {{Yes|SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * no 2D/3D acceleration<br/> * use USB ports at back |- |} ==== Motherboards ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | ASUS P8Z68V LX || {{Yes|SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * add external PCIe video card for better performance |- | Gigabyte GA-MA770T UD3/UD3P || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * requires external PCIe video card |- | ASUS M2N68-AM SE2 || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{Yes|NVIDIA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|NVNET}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * connecting a disk via SATA connector is not supported at this time <br/> * add external PCIe video card for better performance |- | Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2H || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || * add external PCIe video card for better performance |- |} ==== Legacy supported hardware ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="10%" |EOL ! width="35%" |Comments |- | iMica || {{Yes|IDE}} || {{Yes|GMA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || 2026-12-31 || |- | Gigabyte GA-MA770 UD3 || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(IDE)}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || {{Yes|GeForce 8xxx/9xxx}} || 2026-12-31 || * requires external PCIe video card |- |} === Recommended hardware (64-bit) === [[#top|...to the top]] Recommended hardware is hardware that has been tested with latest release of AROS and is relatively easy to purchase second hand (ie. ebay). This hardware also comes with commitment that compatibility will be maintained with each future release. ==== Virtual Hardware ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | VirtualBox 7.x (Other/Unknown (64-bit) template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}} || {{Yes|PCNET32<br/>E1000}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- | VMware 16+ (Other64 template) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VMWARESVGA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|E1000}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- | QEMU 8.x ("pc" and "q35" machines) || {{Yes|IDE<br/>SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|SB128}} || {{Yes|PCNET32}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- |} ==== Motherboards ==== {| class="wikitable" width="100%" ! width="20%" |Name ! width="5%" |Storage ! width="5%" |Gfx ! width="5%" |Audio ! width="5%" |Ethernet ! width="5%" |Wireless ! width="10%" |Additional hardware ! width="45%" |Comments |- | ASUS P8Z68V LX || {{Yes|SATA(AHCI)}} || {{Yes|VESA}} || {{Yes|HDAudio}}|| {{Yes|RTL8169}} || NOT APPLICABLE || NOT APPLICABLE || * No accelerated 3D support |- |} ==References== [[#top|...to the top]] {{reflist}} {{BookCat}} 6s3ma5ywyrr3hp7qbye8btgt69f5ry0 Designing Professional Development/Singapore 0 259711 4520927 3504948 2025-07-02T10:11:46Z WereSpielChequers 248949 typo 4520927 wikitext text/x-wiki {{subject|{{subject|Designing_Professional_Development/Technology-Based_Learning}}}}{{Designing Professional Development/Contents}} {{TOCright}} ==Professional Development in Singapore== Today, Singapore is a global hub of trade, finance and transportation, one of Asia’s great success stories. Its schools are ranked high on the list of the world’s best-performing school systems. Educators around the world are wondering how Singapore has achieved its world-beating levels of performance in the education field. The answer, according to Singapore educators is: a coherent curriculum delivered to every school by high-quality teachers.<ref>Vivien Stewart, http://asiasociety.org/education/learning-world/how-singapore-developed-high-quality-teacher-workforce</ref> Singapore’s policy makers decided early on to invest in their human resources and to dream, design and deliver a solid education to every child. Good teachers and effective school leaders to form the cornerstone of that system. A high-quality teacher workforce doesn’t simply happen by chance or as a result of a cultural respect for teaching; it is a result of deliberate policy choices. Singapore has developed a comprehensive system for selecting, training, compensating and developing teachers and principals.<ref>Vivien Stewart,http://asiasociety.org/education/learning-world/how-singapore-developed-high-quality-teacher-workforce</ref> ==Pre-service Preparation== ===Introduction=== [http://www.nie.edu.sg/ The National Institute of Education (NIE)] is the only teacher education institution in Singapore and all pre-service teachers for the Singapore education system are trained at this one Institution. There are several programs for the [http://www.nie.edu.sg/policy-and-leadership-studies/programmes/pre-service-courses/ pre-service] preparation of teachers for the various levels of schools. Within the context of a national educational system which is very centrally controlled, teacher education programs have changed much over the past decade, constantly seeking improvement, not only in response to environmental changes but also to be leaders of change in the educational field. ===ICT training for pre-service teachers in Singapore=== In recent years, the Singaporean government has paid much attention to ensure that school teachers are proficient in integrating information and communication technology (ICT) in the teaching–learning process.<ref>Timothy Teo, Chwee Beng Lee, Ching Sing Chai, Su Luan Wong,2009,Assessing the intention to use technology among pre-service teachers in Singapore and Malaysia: A multigroup invariance analysis of the Technology Acceptance Model (TAM),''Computers and Education'',53,1000-1009</ref> ICT has always been encouraged in the Singapore education system. While there is no explicit policy on how much and how it should be used within the curriculum, teachers tacitly know the need to incorporate the use of ICT in teaching and learning. Some schools even go as far as mandating a certain percentage of curriculum time. There are [http://wiki.nus.edu.sg/display/SPORE/3.+Compare+Three+Masterplans+in+Education/ 3 ICT Master Plans] to refer to and there are professional development courses to support but the effort is not seen as a single program but rather, NIE provides the PD courses on ICT when the demand arises. [http://www.moe.gov.sg/ Ministry of Education (MOE)] has an educational technology branch that provides the direction on ICT use and it is through them that PD courses on ICT are requested from NIE. Organized into core and elective courses, these are designed to allow pre-service teachers to develop their skills in the use of ICT in teaching and learning. All pre-service teachers enroll in the core course entitled “ICT for Engaged Learning”. It exposes the participants to the principles and practice of integrating ICT in classroom teaching and learning, with due pedagogical considerations on the planning, implementing and classroom management processes. In addition, pre-service teachers may enroll in elective courses to learn about using ICT as a cognitive tool or computer-supported collaborative learning. [[File:Students taking part in a BarCamp at Ngee Ann Polytechnic, Singapore - 20090228.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Discussion from Singapore barcamp of March 2009]] ===The NIE IT Plan=== The Singapore government launched [http://www.nie.edu.sg/files/oer/NIE_research_brief_11-001.pdf/ the Master Plan for Information Technology (IT)] in Education in 1997 to usher in a new era in educational development. The Master Plan emphasized the importance of teacher development in IT and specified three goals: 1) to train every teacher in purposeful use of IT for teaching; 2) to equip trainee teachers with core skills in teaching with IT; and 3) to involve institutions of higher learning and industry partners in schools. Under this IT Master Plan, the National Institute of Education (NIE), as the only pre-service teacher training institution in Singapore, is entrusted with the integration of IT into its initial teacher training programs. To meet the needs of the government, NIE developed its IT plan in 1998 and specified the four main focal areas of change: revising the curriculum; upgrading of physical and technological infrastructure; developing the human resource infrastructure; and strengthening research and development efforts in the use of IT in education.<ref>Insung Jung,2000,Singapore: Pre-service Teacher Training in Technology Use,Technologies at work,Knowledge Enterprise, Inc.</ref> ====Features of the plan==== The study shows that:<ref>Insung Jung,2000,Singapore: Pre-service Teacher Training in Technology Use,Technologies at work,Knowledge Enterprise, Inc</ref> * The NIE IT Plan was a systematic approach to create an IT-integrated teaching and learning environment in which IT is integrated into the curricula and the teaching and learning process of NIE. * The NIE has implemented its IT plan with strong commitment and affluent resources, and built an IT-integrated learning environment. The physical and technological infrastructure proposed in the Plan has been successfully established. * Curriculum revision has been done to ensure that pre-service teachers are equipped with the appropriate skills to integrate IT into teaching and learning, and to allow them to experience the benefits of learning in an IT–integrated environment. * NIE has initiated a program of applied and strategic research and development in instructional science and technology. However, the needs for long-term effectiveness research have been indicated. * NIE students who received IT training showed a tendency to apply knowledge or skills they learned at NIE in their classroom teaching. ==Continuous Development== ===Introduction=== [http://www.academyofsingaporeteachers.moe.gov.sg/cos/o.x?c=/ast/pagetree/ The academy of Singapore teachers (AST)] indicates that [http://www.academyofsingaporeteachers.moe.gov.sg/cos/o.x?c=/ast/pagetree&func=view&rid=1071424/ professional development (PD)] is a process in which officers (Education Officers, Allied Educators, Executive and Administrative Staff) acquire a body of knowledge and skills to perform their role at each stage of their career and to progress to the next level. The enactment of curriculum depends on the quality of the teachers. While teachers may have received strong foundation training in pre-service certification programs, and continuous professional development ensures pervasive update and upgrade on the quality of teachers. It is in this belief that the Ministry of Education has set up the AST to promote teacher professionalism. National Institute of Education (NIE) works closely with AST to provide teacher professional development programs to this end. And Singaporean teachers are entitled to 100 hours of yearly professional development, much of it workshop-style in nature. ===Main roles for teacher professional development in Singapore=== * Teachers' Mindset –If teachers' mindset isn't in the "right place" for implementing a new initiative, whatever else we do may not be useful. * Helping Teachers to Construct Knowledge— Teachers, like students, need to construct knowledge, not just receive it. * Enhancing Learning Capacity—Teachers should be life-long learners. An important goal of professional development, therefore, is to enhance teachers' capacity to learn.<ref>Sandy Berger, http://blog.keypress.com/2011/04/professional-development-the-singapore-way/</ref> ===Key elements of the system=== ====Recruitment==== The prospective teachers are selected attentively from the top one third of the secondly schooling graduating class. Prospective teachers need high academic results, and they should commit to the profession and to serving to diverse student bodies. They will receive 60% of the teaching salary when they are in training and commit to teaching for at least 3 years. Their interesting in teaching is built early when they do the internship, and a system for mid-career entry is also existed. ====Training==== All teachers receive theirs trainings from the National Institute of Education at Nayang Technological University, and they can decide whether to receive it in a diploma or a degree course depending on their level of education at entry. Besides, between the Institute and schools there is a close working relationship that master teachers mentor every new teacher for several years. ====Professional Development==== Teachers accept 100 hours’ professional development every year, and they may take it in several ways. Firstly, they could study courses at the National Institute of Education which focus on subject matter and pedagogical knowledge. Secondly, they could go aboard to the other countries to examine aspects of education with the funds supported by school. Further, teachers could share their best practices in the Singapore Teachers’ centre which will be set to open later in 2010. ====Performance appraisal==== Teachers’ performance will be evaluated every year like the other occupational in Singapore by a number of people in several aspects which are the academic contributions, their students’ character development, their collaboration with parents and community groups and their contributions to their colleagues and the school as a whole. Besides, teachers could get bonus if they do outstanding work. ====Career Development==== Teachers’ performance are evaluated annually to determine whether they have the potential for three different career paths after their three years’ teaching, and three career paths respectively are master teacher, specialist in curriculum or research, or school leader, each with salary increments. Teachers with potential to become school leader will enter into the middle management. After that, according to the performance assessing, middle managers will have the chance to become assistant principals and principals later.<ref>Vivien Stewart,http://asiasociety.org/education/learning-world/how-singapore-developed-high-quality-teacher-workforce</ref> ==Conclusions== Since they pay more attention to the high-quality people recruitment and give the good training and continuing support, there is almost no education failure in Singapore. However, although Singapore’s creative education system is so successful, and it has directly effect on its economic growth in the global economy, the country is still looking for developing a new education policy framework as the it has already recognize that innovation will be the key to the country’s future. Thus, a committee of the National Institute of Education released a report a report called “A Teacher Education for the 21st Century” which outlines how to meet these goals through redesigning the teacher training to further strengthen the skills and knowledge of teachers. In Singapore, the policy is easier to implement and there is good communication between the Ministry, the National Institute of Education and the schools due to that Singapore is small and has more centralized education system. In the past, the city-state developed its system by drawing the best practice of other countries, and now they should learn from Singapore. ==External links== * http://www.nie.edu.sg/ National Institute of Education * http://www.nie.edu.sg/policy-and-leadership-studies/programmes/pre-service-courses/ Pre-service Courses of NIE * http://wiki.nus.edu.sg/display/SPORE/3.+Compare+Three+Masterplans+in+Education/ 3 master plans in education of Singapore * http://www.moe.gov.sg/ Ministry of Education, Singapore == References == {{Reflist}} o2yc0074eqegc2oslofb7sqmdaogfjr Wikibooks:Peeragogy 4 293897 4520906 4338743 2025-07-02T03:58:04Z Charles Jeffrey Danoff 293364 /* Peeragogy Elsewhere on Wikimedia */ added a link to wikiconference submission and cleaned up the list 4520906 wikitext text/x-wiki {{project|}} {| cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top; background-color:#f5fffa; width:67%; margin-bottom:0.5em;" ! <h2 style="margin:0; background-color:#cef2e0; font-size:120%; font-weight:bold; border:1px solid #f5fffa; text-align:left; color:black; padding:0.2em 0.4em;">Wikibooks:Peeragogy</h2> |- | style="color:#000" | [[Image:PeeragogyV2 Cover Display.jpg|right|70px]]Welcome to '''Wikibooks:Peeragogy''', a Wikiproject to better facilitate communication regarding [http://www.peeragogy.org Peeragogy]-related books. 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Feel free to [[#Participants|join this Peeragogy WikiProject]] by adding your name to the list. |} __TOC__ =Peeragogy Books on Wikibooks= The Wikibooks about Peeragogy are currently: * [[Peeragogy_Handbook_V1.0|Peeragogy Handbook]] in English * [[:fr:Peeragogie_Manuel_V2|Peeragogy Manuel]] in French ({{lang|fr|français}}) * [[:it:Peeragogia|Peeragogia]] in Italian ({{lang|it|italiano}}) * [[:id:Peeragogy_Handbook_V1.0|Peeragogy Handbook]] in Indonesian ({{lang|id|bahasa Indonesia}}) [[File:Adult Wikibooks-tan.png|thumb|right|alt=Adult Wikibooks-tan|[[:c:Wiki-sisters#Wikibooks|Wikibooks-tan]] encourages you to help edit Peeragogy Wikibooks!]] ==Peeragogy Elsewhere on Wikimedia== * 2023 [[wikiconference:Submissions:2023/Peeragogy_Wikibooks:_Past,_Present,_and_Future|Wikiconference submission]] * 2023 [[:c:File:Peeragogy Poster for Wikimania - 13 August 2023 Uploaded Version.pdf|Wikimania Poster]] ([https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2023:Program/Poster_sessions/UZEJAQ-A_Baker%27s_Dozen_Years_of_Peeragogy_and_Wikimedia_%2B_What%27s_Next submission]) * 2023 Wikimania Workshop ([https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2023:Program/Wild_Ideas/WVLJRV-Open_Future_Design_Workshop submission]) * 2015 [[:c:File:Pedagog%C3%ADa_de_pares_y_producci%C3%B3n_colectiva_de_conocimiento_2015.pdf|Pedagogía de pares y producción colectiva de conocimiento 2015]] by [https://www.educ.ar/recursos/129448/wikipedia-en-el-aula/fullscreen/fullscreen Wikimedia Argentina and educ.ar], resource in Spanish (español) * 2015 [[Wm2015:Submissions/Wikipedia_Values_and_Peeragogical_Methods_in_Knowledge_Production| Wikimania Presentation]] * 2014 [[Wm2014:Submissions/Bootstrapping_the_Wiki_Way_with_the_Peeragogy_Accelerator | Wikimania Submission]] * 2013 [[MetaWiki:Grants:IEG/Patterns_of_Peeragogy| Grant Application]] * 2011 our first paper [[v:User:Arided/ParagogyPaper|Paragogy: Synergizing individual and organizational learning]] * Meeting notes: ** [[:v:User:Charles Jeffrey Danoff/Peeragogy Monthly Wrap - January 2020|January 2020]] ** [[:v:User:Charles_Jeffrey_Danoff/Peeragogy_Spring_2019_Meeting_Notes|Spring 2019]] ** [[:v:User:Charles_Jeffrey_Danoff/Peeragogy_2018_Holidaze_Meeting_Notes|2018 Holidaze]] * [https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/peeragogy Peeragogy Etherpad] ===English Wikipedia=== * English Handbook Wikibook mentioned on [[:w:Open-source_curriculum#Resources|Open-Source Curriculum]] article * [https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/14GtDeiMkA61B7vPDSPGLfIzGumOyDhGIlLNcQCv0gec/mobilebasic?pli=1 Peeragogy literature review] was used as source text for [[:w:Peer_Learning|Peer Learning]] article (see link at bottom) =Suggested things to work on= Feel free to do whatever you find interesting and that you think will be helpful to make the Peeragogy Wikibooks more useful to readers! If you are looking for specific suggestions, here are some: *Revise and improve the handbooks in your language *Work on the Handbook in [[:pt:Peeragogy_Handbook_V1.1_(pt-Brazilian)|Portuguese]] ({{lang|pt|português}}) *Translate the handbook into additional languages *Consider other work to fold into this handbook, for example the [[:m:Wikimania_Handbook|Wikimania Handbook]] =[[File:Nuvola_apps_kuser.png|20px|Participants]] Participants= * [[v:User:Charles_Jeffrey_Danoff|Charlie]] == Peeragogues who Contributed to the Handbook == V2.0 has been edited by: *Howard Rheingold *[[v:User:Arided|Joseph Corneli]] *[[v:User:Charles_Jeffrey_Danoff|Charlie]] *Charlotte Pierce *Fabrizio Terzi [[User:Peeragogia|Peeragogia]] [[Image:Flag_of_Italy.svg|20px]] [[w:en:User:Fabrizio_Terzi_P2PU|Fabry]] *Paola Ricuarte *Doug Breitbart *George Brett *John Graves *Kyle Larson 1j7edeszo25kcjecwut8ru0o1gxt72n 4520908 4520907 2025-07-02T04:12:30Z Charles Jeffrey Danoff 293364 /* Peeragogy Elsewhere on Wikimedia */ 4520908 wikitext text/x-wiki {{project|}} {| cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top; background-color:#f5fffa; width:67%; margin-bottom:0.5em;" ! <h2 style="margin:0; background-color:#cef2e0; font-size:120%; font-weight:bold; border:1px solid #f5fffa; text-align:left; color:black; padding:0.2em 0.4em;">Wikibooks:Peeragogy</h2> |- | style="color:#000" | [[Image:PeeragogyV2 Cover Display.jpg|right|70px]]Welcome to '''Wikibooks:Peeragogy''', a Wikiproject to better facilitate communication regarding [http://www.peeragogy.org Peeragogy]-related books. This page and its subpages contain suggestions; it is hoped that this project will help to focus the efforts of other Wikibookians. If you would like to help, please inquire on the [[{{TALKPAGENAME}}|discussion page]] and/or see the list below. Feel free to [[#Participants|join this Peeragogy WikiProject]] by adding your name to the list. |} __TOC__ =Peeragogy Books on Wikibooks= The Wikibooks about Peeragogy are currently: * [[Peeragogy_Handbook_V1.0|Peeragogy Handbook]] in English * [[:fr:Peeragogie_Manuel_V2|Peeragogy Manuel]] in French ({{lang|fr|français}}) * [[:it:Peeragogia|Peeragogia]] in Italian ({{lang|it|italiano}}) * [[:id:Peeragogy_Handbook_V1.0|Peeragogy Handbook]] in Indonesian ({{lang|id|bahasa Indonesia}}) [[File:Adult Wikibooks-tan.png|thumb|right|alt=Adult Wikibooks-tan|[[:c:Wiki-sisters#Wikibooks|Wikibooks-tan]] encourages you to help edit Peeragogy Wikibooks!]] ==Peeragogy Elsewhere on Wikimedia== Over the years there has been a lot of peeragogical activity across the wikimeida universe. ===Wikis=== * 2023 [[wikiconference:Submissions:2023/Peeragogy_Wikibooks:_Past,_Present,_and_Future|Wikiconference submission]] * 2023 [[:c:File:Peeragogy Poster for Wikimania - 13 August 2023 Uploaded Version.pdf|Wikimania Poster]] ([https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2023:Program/Poster_sessions/UZEJAQ-A_Baker%27s_Dozen_Years_of_Peeragogy_and_Wikimedia_%2B_What%27s_Next submission]) * 2023 Wikimania Workshop ([https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2023:Program/Wild_Ideas/WVLJRV-Open_Future_Design_Workshop submission]) * 2015 [[:c:File:Pedagog%C3%ADa_de_pares_y_producci%C3%B3n_colectiva_de_conocimiento_2015.pdf|Pedagogía de pares y producción colectiva de conocimiento 2015]] by [https://www.educ.ar/recursos/129448/wikipedia-en-el-aula/fullscreen/fullscreen Wikimedia Argentina and educ.ar], resource in Spanish (español) * 2015 [[Wm2015:Submissions/Wikipedia_Values_and_Peeragogical_Methods_in_Knowledge_Production| Wikimania Presentation]] * 2014 [[Wm2014:Submissions/Bootstrapping_the_Wiki_Way_with_the_Peeragogy_Accelerator | Wikimania Submission]] * 2013 [[MetaWiki:Grants:IEG/Patterns_of_Peeragogy| Grant Application]] * 2011 our first paper [[v:User:Arided/ParagogyPaper|Paragogy: Synergizing individual and organizational learning]] * Meeting notes: ** [[:v:User:Charles Jeffrey Danoff/Peeragogy Monthly Wrap - January 2020|January 2020]] ** [[:v:User:Charles_Jeffrey_Danoff/Peeragogy_Spring_2019_Meeting_Notes|Spring 2019]] ** [[:v:User:Charles_Jeffrey_Danoff/Peeragogy_2018_Holidaze_Meeting_Notes|2018 Holidaze]] * [[wikidata:Q19567723|Peeragogy Handbook V 1.0 Category]] on Wikidata ===Other Projects=== * [https://peeragogy.wikibase.cloud/wiki/Main_Page Peeragogy Wikibase] * [https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/peeragogy Peeragogy Etherpad] ===English Wikipedia=== * English Handbook Wikibook mentioned on [[:w:Open-source_curriculum#Resources|Open-Source Curriculum]] article * [https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/14GtDeiMkA61B7vPDSPGLfIzGumOyDhGIlLNcQCv0gec/mobilebasic?pli=1 Peeragogy literature review] was used as source text for [[:w:Peer_Learning|Peer Learning]] article (see link at bottom) =Suggested things to work on= Feel free to do whatever you find interesting and that you think will be helpful to make the Peeragogy Wikibooks more useful to readers! If you are looking for specific suggestions, here are some: *Revise and improve the handbooks in your language *Work on the Handbook in [[:pt:Peeragogy_Handbook_V1.1_(pt-Brazilian)|Portuguese]] ({{lang|pt|português}}) *Translate the handbook into additional languages *Consider other work to fold into this handbook, for example the [[:m:Wikimania_Handbook|Wikimania Handbook]] =[[File:Nuvola_apps_kuser.png|20px|Participants]] Participants= * [[v:User:Charles_Jeffrey_Danoff|Charlie]] == Peeragogues who Contributed to the Handbook == V2.0 has been edited by: *Howard Rheingold *[[v:User:Arided|Joseph Corneli]] *[[v:User:Charles_Jeffrey_Danoff|Charlie]] *Charlotte Pierce *Fabrizio Terzi [[User:Peeragogia|Peeragogia]] [[Image:Flag_of_Italy.svg|20px]] [[w:en:User:Fabrizio_Terzi_P2PU|Fabry]] *Paola Ricuarte *Doug Breitbart *George Brett *John Graves *Kyle Larson t2nx4ufgzpyg2ttfd5ygnylci6baplj Wikibooks:Edit filter/False positives 4 396216 4520778 4520764 2025-07-01T13:21:13Z MarcGarver 134830 /* Makerofjacket */ 4520778 wikitext text/x-wiki __NONEWSECTIONLINK__ __NOINDEX__ {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikibooks:Edit filter/False positives/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(75d) |counter = 4 |maxarchivesize = 150K |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 3 }} {{Wikibooks:Edit filter/False positives/Header}} == Kcapoor == ;Username : {{user|Kcapoor}} ({{plainlinks|URL=http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchUser={{urlencode:Kcapoor}}|NAME=filter log}}) ;Page you were editing : [[]] ({{plainlinks|URL=http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchTitle={{urlencode:}}|NAME=filter log}}) ;Description : ;Date and time : 03:37, 28 April 2025 (UTC) ;Comments <!-- Please leave this area blank for now, but be prepared to answer questions left by reviewing editors. 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If this is not your intention, we apologize for the inconvenience but please report this error and try your edit again later.'' ;Date and time : 21:58, 20 June 2025 (UTC) ;Comments The edit was blocked as likely vandalism. While you weren't attempting to vandalise, you were copying and pasting text from Wikipedia which is a breach of the site license. If you wish to import text from Wikipedia, please request an import at [[WB:RFI]] [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 09:35, 23 June 2025 (UTC) : Per the response above, I am marking as {{EFFP|nd}} [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 12:00, 29 June 2025 (UTC) == 185.164.156.170 == ;Username : {{user|185.164.156.170}} ({{plainlinks|URL=http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchUser={{urlencode:185.164.156.170}}|NAME=filter log}}) ;Page you were editing : [[]] ({{plainlinks|URL=http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchTitle={{urlencode:}}|NAME=filter log}}) ;Description : ;Date and time : 18:53, 27 June 2025 (UTC) ;Comments <!-- Please leave this area blank for now, but be prepared to answer questions left by reviewing editors. Thanks! --> == Makerofjacket == Hello, I attempted to add an external link to makerofjacket.com as a relevant reference for leather fashion and design. The brand is mentioned in the context of leather skirt styles and is directly related to the subject. This is not promotional or spam content the link supports the topic and gives readers a source for further exploration. :It is spam, as is your username, so you are now blocked. [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 13:21, 1 July 2025 (UTC) l3cz1cz8fl1ra5vvtug8ouovh58ez6q 4520857 4520778 2025-07-01T20:14:12Z ValWinter 3475096 /* {{subst:REVISIONUSER}} */ new section 4520857 wikitext text/x-wiki __NONEWSECTIONLINK__ __NOINDEX__ {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikibooks:Edit filter/False positives/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(75d) |counter = 4 |maxarchivesize = 150K |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 3 }} {{Wikibooks:Edit filter/False positives/Header}} == Kcapoor == ;Username : {{user|Kcapoor}} ({{plainlinks|URL=http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchUser={{urlencode:Kcapoor}}|NAME=filter log}}) ;Page you were editing : [[]] ({{plainlinks|URL=http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchTitle={{urlencode:}}|NAME=filter log}}) ;Description : ;Date and time : 03:37, 28 April 2025 (UTC) ;Comments <!-- Please leave this area blank for now, but be prepared to answer questions left by reviewing editors. 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I did spend some time making sure I was improving that page, so it'd be nice if those changes are accepted. ;Date and time : 11:00, 26 May 2025 (UTC) ;Comments <!-- Please leave this area blank for now, but be prepared to answer questions left by reviewing editors. Thanks! --> : {{EFFP|d}} Note that I removed the last sentence, which is unnecessary. Otherwise, your edit looked fine to implement. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 18:56, 3 June 2025 (UTC) == 38.211.149.56 == ;Username : {{user|38.211.149.56}} ({{plainlinks|URL=http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchUser={{urlencode:38.211.149.56}}|NAME=filter log}}) ;Page you were editing : [[]] ({{plainlinks|URL=http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchTitle={{urlencode:}}|NAME=filter log}}) ;Description : ;Date and time : 10:52, 1 June 2025 (UTC) ;Comments <!-- Please leave this area blank for now, but be prepared to answer questions left by reviewing editors. 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Thanks! --> :{{EFFP|d|https://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Handbook_of_Management_Scales/Procedural_justice&diff=prev&oldid=4519425}} [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ternera|contribs]]) 13:02, 23 June 2025 (UTC) == {{subst:136472 Makemake}} == ;Username : {{user|2601:2C6:580:1960:9DF8:EF8C:BD2D:E975}} ({{plainlinks|URL=http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchUser={{urlencode:2601:2C6:580:1960:9DF8:EF8C:BD2D:E975}}|NAME=filter log}}) ;Page you were editing : [[(1364720 Makemake]] ({{plainlinks|URL=http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchTitle={{urlencode:(1364720 Makemake}}|NAME=filter log}}) ;Description : I was editing it but it said "We are sorry, your edit can not be completed at this time. Your recent edits have repeatedly triggered the edit filter. To prevent users from repeatedly attempting to make unconstructive edits, your edit has been disallowed. If this is not your intention, we apologize for the inconvenience but please report this error and try your edit again later.'' ;Date and time : 21:58, 20 June 2025 (UTC) ;Comments The edit was blocked as likely vandalism. While you weren't attempting to vandalise, you were copying and pasting text from Wikipedia which is a breach of the site license. If you wish to import text from Wikipedia, please request an import at [[WB:RFI]] [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 09:35, 23 June 2025 (UTC) : Per the response above, I am marking as {{EFFP|nd}} [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 12:00, 29 June 2025 (UTC) == 185.164.156.170 == ;Username : {{user|185.164.156.170}} ({{plainlinks|URL=http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchUser={{urlencode:185.164.156.170}}|NAME=filter log}}) ;Page you were editing : [[]] ({{plainlinks|URL=http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchTitle={{urlencode:}}|NAME=filter log}}) ;Description : ;Date and time : 18:53, 27 June 2025 (UTC) ;Comments <!-- Please leave this area blank for now, but be prepared to answer questions left by reviewing editors. Thanks! --> == Makerofjacket == Hello, I attempted to add an external link to makerofjacket.com as a relevant reference for leather fashion and design. The brand is mentioned in the context of leather skirt styles and is directly related to the subject. This is not promotional or spam content the link supports the topic and gives readers a source for further exploration. :It is spam, as is your username, so you are now blocked. 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If this is inappropriate I apologize and won't do it again. ;Date and time : 20:14, 1 July 2025 (UTC) ;Comments <!-- Please leave this area blank for now, but be prepared to answer questions left by reviewing editors. Thanks! --> hpw0nr3wbqywvdw7tx9a0mrd51z1gur Mirad Grammar/Determiners 0 417647 4520813 4491317 2025-07-01T18:08:40Z Tyoyafud 6233 /* Deictic Determiner Adjectives */ 4520813 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>{{status|100%}}</noinclude> : Determiners are words that specify or point out the context of nouns and other parts of speech. The English determiner ''this'', for example, specifies a noun for its proximity to the current context. In English, demonstrative pronouns/adjectives/adverbs, possessive pronouns/adjectives, quantifiers like ''more'' and ''very'', and numeric expressions like ''both'' fall under this category. == Types of Determiners == : Determiners in Mirad fall into the following categories: ::{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Types of Determiners |- ! Type !! Also Known As !! English Examples |- !row=1| Deictic | Demonstrative Pronouns/Adjectives/Adverbs || ''the'', ''this'', ''some'', ''every'', ''which?'', ''when'' |- !row=1| Pronominal | Possessive Pronouns/Adjectives | ''my'', ''anybody&apos;s'', ''one&apos;s own'' |- !row=1| Quantitative | Quantifiers || ''more'', ''less'', ''very'' |- !row=1| Numerical | Numerals/Fractions/Ordinals/Dates, etc. || ''one'', ''half'', ''first'' |} : Furthermore, as for part of speech, determiners can be adjectives, pronouns, or adverbs. As adjectives, determiners can itemize or classify. As pronouns, they can refer to one or more persons (male or female) or things. As adverbs, they can specify circumstance, i.e. time, place, degree, kind, age, frequency, and so forth. == Deictic Determiners == : '''''Deictic determiners''''' are words which point out or ''specify'' other words as to their context, including what grammarians often call '''''demonstratives'''''. All deictic determiners in Mirad begin with the letter '''h'''. The letters following the '''h''' indicate the grammatical and semantic category. : Deictic determiners include the following traditional grammatical categories: <div style="background: lightyellow"> ::* '''''Demonstrative adjectives ''''' like ''this'', ''that'', ''those'', ''that one'' ::* '''''The definite article''''' ''the ''&nbsp;&nbsp; (which is really a '''''demonstrative adjective''''' like those above.) ::* '''''Demonstrative pronouns''''' like ''this'', ''that'', ''those'', ''that one'' ::* '''''Interrogative and relative pronouns''''' like ''who, which, that'' ::* '''''Indefinite adjectives''''' like ''any'', ''some'', ''all'', ''something'', ''such'', etc. ::* '''''Indefinite pronouns''''' like ''any'', ''some'', ''all'', ''something'', ''such'', etc. ::* '''''Pronouns, adjectives, and adverbs of quantity''''' like ''so much'', ''that many'', ''how many?'', ''very'', etc. ::* '''''Adverbs of circumstance:''''' :::* '''''time''''' like ''when'', ''now'', ''ever'' :::* '''''place''''' like ''there'', ''here'', ''somewhere'' :::* '''''manner''''' like ''how'', ''thus'', ''somehow'' :::* '''''kind''''' like ''so'', age ''this year old'' :::* '''''direction''''' like ''that way'', ''any which way'' :::* '''''reason''''' ''why?'', ''for that reason'', ''for no reason'' :::* '''''degree''''' ''this (well)'', ''so (good)'', ''how (bad)'' :::* '''''frequency''''' like ''how often'', ''so often'', ''never'' :::* '''''age''''' like ''this old'', ''how old?'', ''of any age'' </div> === Deictic Prefixes === [[File:Deixis (DE).png|thumb|none]] : There is a whole set of '''''correlative deictic prefixes''''', which are joined to circumstantial stub category suffixes to derive pronoun, adjective, and adverb determiners. In some grammars, these words are called ''wh-question words and their pointed answers''. For example, QUESTION: <u>Who</u> is your wife? ANSWER: <u>This</u> is my wife. (or) QUESTION: <u>Where</u> is your house? ANSWER: My house is <u>here</u>. These word forms are called correlative because they relate to one another in way that can be mapped to a table. : Here are the Mirad deictic classification prefixes: :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Deictic Prefixes |- ! Classification !! Deictic Prefix |- ! scope="row" | Interrogative | '''duho-...?'''....''what?, which?'' |- ! scope="row" | Relative | '''ho-'''....''which, that'' |- ! scope="row" | Exclamatory | '''hoo-'''....''how...!'' |- ! scope="row" | Definite | '''ha-'''....''the'' |- ! scope="row: | Indefinite | '''he-'''....''some, a certain'' |- ! scope="row" | Proximal | '''hi-'''....''this, these'' |- ! scope="row" | Immediate | '''hii-'''....''the following'' |- ! scope="row" | Distal | '''hu-'''....''that, those'' |- ! scope="row" | Intensive | '''huu-'''....''such, so, what a...!'' |- ! scope="row" | Distributive | '''hya-'''....''every, all, each'' |- ! scope="row" | Indeterminate | '''hye-'''....''any, whatever'' |- ! scope="row" | Negative | '''hyo-'''....''no, not any'' |- ! scope="row | Identical | '''hyi-'''....''the same, the very'' |- ! scope="row" | Non-identical | '''hyu-'''....''the other, another, else'' |} : Note: The Identical ('''hyi-''') and Non-identical prefixes ('''hyu-''') can optionally be substituted with '''ge-''' (''same'') and '''oge-''' (different), respectively. === Circumstantial Category Suffixes === : The table below shows word stub suffixes that indicate the circumstantial category of deictic expressions. They are called stubs, because they are reduced word forms. The combination of deictic prefixes and circumstantial stub suffixes produce a matrix of deictic '''''correlatives''''', seen later in this chapter. Use of the stub instead of the long form is a matter of optional economy. A few categories do not have stubs. :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Category Stubs |- ! Category !! Stub Suffix !! Long Form !! Short Question Form || Long Question Form |- ! row=1| Person | '''-t''' || '''<u>t</u>ob'''....''person'' || '''duhot?'''....''who?''|| '''duhotob?''' |- ! row=1| Thing | '''-s''' ||'''<u>s</u>un'''....''thing'' || '''duhos?'''....''what?''|| '''duhosun?''' |- ! row=1| Place | '''-m''' ||'''ne<u>m</u>'''....''place'' || '''duhom?'''....''where?''|| '''duhonem?''' |- ! row=1| Time | '''-j''' ||'''<u>j</u>ob'''....''time'' || '''duhoj?'''....''when?''|| '''duhojob?''' |- ! row=1| Manner | '''-yen''' ||'''b<u>yen</u>'''....''manner'' || '''duhoyen?'''....''how?''||'''duhobyen?''' |- ! row=1| Kind | '''-yena''' ||'''sauna</u>'''....''kind of'' || '''duhoyena?'''....''what kind of?''||'''duhosauna?''' |- ! row=1| Degree | '''-gla''' ||'''nog'''....''degree'' || '''duhogla (fi)?'''....''how (well)?''||'''duhonog?''' |- ! row=1| Number | '''-gla''' ||'''sag'''....''number'' || '''duhogla (pati)?'''....''how many (birds)?''||'''duhosag?''' |- ! row=1| Mass Quantity | '''-gla''' ||'''glan'''....''amount'' || '''duhogla (mil)?'''....''how much (water)?''||'''duhoglan?''' |- ! row=1| Frequency | ||'''xag'''....''frequency''|| '''duhoxag?'''....''how often?''|| -- |- ! row=1| Reason | '''-avhos''' || '''av hosun'''....''reason'' || '''duavhos?'''....''why?''|| '''duavhosun?''' |- ! row=1| Age | ||'''jaga'''....''of age'' || '''duhojaga?'''....''how old?''|| -- |} : There can be other circumstantial categories other than those listed above, such as "direction", "order", etc. eg. '''Duhomep wit pa?'''....''Which way did he go?''. === Charts of Correlative Deictic Determiners === : Here is are three tables showing the matrix of correlative deictic determiners. Note that the determiners belong to three parts of speech, 1) adjectives, 2) pronouns, and 3) adverbs: :{| class="wikitable" font-size:smaller style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |- ! Part of Speech !! Ending |- | Adjective || '''-a''' |- | Pronoun || '''-t(i)''', '''-s(i)''' |- | Adverb || (no ending) |} ==== Deictic Determiner Adjectives ==== : All deictic determiner adjectives end in '''-a''' and are used to modify nouns. :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Adjectives |- valign=top ! !! Selective<br>-a!! Possessive<br>-ta !! Kind/Manner<br>-yena !! Quantity<br>-gla !! Age<br>-jaga !! Frequency<br>-xaga |- ! Interrogative |'''duhoa?'''<br>''which?''||'''duhota?'''<br>''whose?''|| '''duhoyena?'''<br>''what kind of?''||'''duhogla?'''<br>''how much/many?'' ||'''duhojaga?'''<br>''how old?''||'''duhoxaga?'''<br>''how frequent?'' |- valign=top ! Relative |'''hoa'''<br>''which''||'''hota'''<br>''whose''|| '''hoyena'''<br>''what kind of''||'''hogla'''<br>''how much/many'' ||'''hojaga'''<br>''how old''||'''hoxaga'''<br>''how frequent'' |- valign=top ! Exclamatory |'''hooa'''<br>''what a...!''|| || ||'''hoogla'''<br>''look how much/many...!'' ||'''hoojaga'''<br>''how old a...!''|| |- valign=top ! Definite |'''ha'''<sup>1</sup><br>''the''||'''hatas'''<br>''the person’s''|| '''hayena'''<br>''of the kind''||'''hagla'''<br>''of the amount'' ||'''hajaga'''<br>''of the age''||'''haxaga'''<br>''of the frequency'' |- valign=top ! Indefinite |'''hea'''<br>''some/a certain''||'''heta'''<br>''someone's''|| '''heyena'''<br>''some kind of''||'''hegla'''<br>''some'' ||'''hejaga'''<br>''somewhat old''||'''hexaga'''<br>''sometimes'' |- valign=top ! Proximal |'''hia'''<br>''this''||'''hita'''<br>''this person’s''|| '''hiyena'''<br>''this kind of''||'''higla'''<br>''this much'' ||'''hijaga'''<br>''this old''||'''hixaga'''<br>''this often'' |- valign=top ! Immdediate |'''hiia'''<br>''the following''||'''hiita'''<br>''the follow person’s''|| '''hiiyena'''<br>''the following kind of'' || '''hiigla'''<br>''to the following degree'' ||'''hiijaga'''<br>''of the following age''||'''hiixaga'''<br>''of the following frequency'' |- valign=top ! Distal |'''hua'''<br>''that''||'''huta'''<br>''that person’s''|| '''huyena'''<br>''that kind of'' ||'''hugla'''<br>''that much/many'' ||'''hujaga'''<br>''of that age''||'''huxaga'''<br>''that often'' |- valign=top ! Intensive |'''huua'''<br>''such a''||'''huuta'''<br>''such a person’s''|| '''huuyena'''<br>''such kind of'' ||'''huugla'''<br>''so much/many'' ||'''huujaga'''<br>''of such an age''||'''huuxaga'''<br>''so often'' |- valign=top ! Negative |'''hyoa'''<br>''no''||'''hyota'''<br>''nobody’s''|| '''hyoyena'''<br>''no kind of'' ||'''hyogla'''<br>''no amount/number of'' ||'''hyojaga'''<br>''of no age''||'''hyoxaga'''<br>''of zero frequency'' |- valign=top ! Distributive |'''hya'''<sup>1</sup><br>''every, all''||'''hyata'''<br>''everybody’s''|| '''hyayena'''<br>''every kind of'' ||'''hyagla'''<br>''all'' ||'''hyajaga'''<br>''of every age''||'''hyaxaga'''<br>''always'' |- valign=top ! Indeterminate |'''hyea'''<br>''whichever/any''<sup>2</sup>||'''hyeta'''<br>''whosever''|| '''hyeyena'''<br>''whatever/any kind of'' ||'''hyegla'''<br>''however much/many'' ||'''hyejaga'''<br>''however old''||'''hyexaga'''<br>''however frequent'' |- valign=top ! Identical |'''hyia'''<br>''the same''||'''hyita'''<br>''the same person’s''|| '''hyiyena'''<br>''the same kind of'' ||'''hyigla'''<br>''just as'' ||'''hyijaga'''<br>''just as old''||'''hyixaga'''<br>''just as often'' |- valign=top ! Non-identical |'''hyua'''<br>''the other''||'''hyuta'''<br>''someone else's''|| '''hyuyena'''<br>''another kind of'' ||'''hyugla'''<br>''not as much/many'' ||'''hyujaga'''<br>''of another age''||'''hyuxaga'''<br>''not as often'' |} : There are other adjectival determiners such as '''duhonoga'''....''how/to what degree'', '''duhosauna'''....''what kind of'' that are not included in the above chart. :Note 1) The determiners '''ha''' (''the'') and '''hya''' (''every'') are shortened forms of '''haa''' and '''hyaa'''. Also, '''ha''' is commonly called a "definite article". ::* While '''hya''' means ''every'' or ''all'', the word '''hyawa''' is used for ''each''. ::* The possessive adjective forms in the above table ending in '''-ta''' such as '''hyeta'''....''whosever'' cannot be pluralized by the ending '''-tia'''. To say '''other people's''', use the expression '''bi hyuti''' (Lit. ''of others''). ::* The '''ho-''' words are relative, meaning that they can serve to form relative clauses like the following: :::* '''Ha toyb, <u>hota</u> twad se Bill,'''....''The woman, <u>whose</u> husband is Bill,'' :::* '''At voy te <u>hos</u> et tepfe.'''....''I don't know <u>what</u> you mean.'' :::* '''At teste <u>hogla</u> et fie iyt.'''....''I understand <u>how much</u> you love her.'' ::* The '''hoo-''' words are exclamatory and are used in expressions like the following: :::* '''<u>Hoogla</u> iva se at van et upa!'''....''<u>How</u> glad I am that you came!'' :::* '''<u>Hooa</u> jub his saye!'''....''<u>What a</u> day this has been!'' ('''Hooa''' is pronounced ''ho-O-a'' as three syllables.) :Note 2) The indeterminant determiners can also be translated with ''no matter what, no matter where, etc.'' ==== Deictic Determiner Pronouns ==== : All deictic determiner pronouns end either in '''-t''' for persons or '''-s''' for things. They can be singular or plural ('''-i'''). :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Pronouns |- valign=top ! !! Thing -s<br>Things -si !! Person -t<br>Persons -ti !! Kind of Thing -yenas<br>Kinds of Things -yenasi !! Amount -glas<br>Number of Things -glasi !! Number of People -glati |- valign=center ! Interrogative |'''duhos?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what?''<br>'''duhosi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what (things)?''|| '''duhot?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who?''<br>'''duhoti?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who (pl.)''|| '''duhoyenas?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what kind of thing?'' <br>'''duhoyenasi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;what kinds of things?|| '''duhoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how much?''<br>'''duhoglasi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many things?''|| '''duhoglati?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many people?'' |- valign=center ! Relative |'''hos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what''<br>'''hosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what''|| '''hot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who''<br>'''hoti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who''|| '''hoyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what kind of thing'' <br>'''hoyenasi'''|| '''hoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how much''<br>'''hoglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many''|| '''hoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many'' |- ! Exclamatory |'''hoos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a thing!''<br>'''hoosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what things!''|| '''hoot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a person!''<br>'''hooti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what people!''|| || '''hooglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what an amount!''<br>'''hooglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a number!''|| '''hoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a number of people!'' |- valign=center ! Definite |'''has'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''it''<br>'''hasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''they/them''|| '''hat'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''he/she/him/her''<br>'''hati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''they/them''|| '''hayenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the king of thing''<br>'''hayenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the kind of things''|| '''haglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the amount'' <br>'''haglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the number of things''|| '''haglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the number of people'' |- valign=center ! Indefinite |'''hes'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''something''<br>'''hesi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some things''|| '''het'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''someone''<br>'''heti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some''|| '''heyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some kind of thing'' <br>'''heyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some kinds of thing''|| '''heglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some''<br>'''heglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some things''|| '''heglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some people'' |- valign=center ! Proximal |'''his'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this''<br>'''hisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these''|| '''hit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this person''<br>'''hiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these people''|| '''hiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this kind of thing'' <br>'''hiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these kinds of things''|| '''higlas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this much''<br>'''higlasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this many''|| '''higlati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this many people'' |- valign=center ! Immediate |'''hiis'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following thing''<br>'''hiisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following things''|| '''hiit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following person''<br>'''hiiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following people''|| '''hiiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following kind of thing'' <br>'''hiiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following kinds of things''|| '''hiiglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following amount''<br>'''hiiglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this following number of things''|| '''hiiglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following number of people'' |- valign=center ! Distal |'''hus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that''<br>'''husi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those''|| '''hut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that person''<br>'''huti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those people''|| '''huyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that kind of thing'' <br>'''huyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those kinds of things''|| '''huglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that much''<br>'''huglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that many''|| '''huglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that many people'' |- valign=center ! Intensive |'''huus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a thing''<br>'''huusi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such things''|| '''huut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a person''<br>'''huuti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such people''|| '''huuyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a kind of thing'' <br>'''huuyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such kinds of things''|| '''huuglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so much''<br>'''huuglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so many''|| '''huuglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so many people'' |- valign=center ! Negative |'''hyos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''nothing''<br>'''hyosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none of them''|| '''hyot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''nobody''<br>'''hyoti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none of them''|| '''hyoyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''no kind of thing'' <br>'''hyoyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''no kinds of things''|| '''hyoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none''<br>'''hyoglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none''|| '''hyoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none'' |- valign=center ! Distributive |'''hyas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''everything''<br>'''hyasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyat'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''everybody''<br>'''hyati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyayenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''every kind of'' <br>'''hyayenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all kinds of things''|| '''hyaglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of it''<br>'''hyaglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyaglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them'' |- valign=center ! Indeterminate |'''hyes'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''anything''<br>'''hyesi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any''|| '''hyet'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''anybody''<br>'''hyeti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of them''|| '''hyeyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any kind of'' <br>'''hyeyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''whatever things''|| '''hyeglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of it''<br>'''hyeglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of them''|| '''hyeglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''whoever'' |- valign=center ! Identical |'''hyis'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same thing''<br>'''hyisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same things''|| '''hyit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same person''<br>'''hyiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same people''|| '''hyiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same kind of'' <br>'''hyiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same kinds of things''|| '''hyiglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as much''<br>'''hyiglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as many''|| '''hyiglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as many people'' |- valign=center ! Non-identical |'''hyus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''something else''<br>'''hyusi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other things''|| '''hyut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''someone else''<br>'''hyuti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other people''|| '''hyuyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another kind'' <br>'''hyuyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other kinds''|| '''hyuglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another amount''<br>'''hyuglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another number of things''|| '''hyuglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another number of people'' |} : Concerning the above chart, note the following: ::* The interrogative determiners all begin with '''duho-''', which means '''say which''', and are technically imperatives. '''Duhom?''', for example, means '''Tell (me) the place...'''. The '''o'''-stem forms without the '''du-''' are used as relative clause heads, eg. '''At po <u>hom</u> et po.'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''I will go <u>where</u> you go.'' ::* Interrogatives usually come at the beginning of a sentence as in English, eg. '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* Determiners come first before any other epithets of a noun, eg. '''<u>Hia</u> aga jaga tam...'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''<u>This</u> big old house...''. ::* Person and Thing determiners can be made selective by inserting '''a''' before the final '''t''' or '''s''', eg. '''Duhot?''' means ''Who?'', while '''Duhoat?''' means ''Which one (of several persons)?'' ==== Deictic Determiner Adverbs ==== : All deictic determiner adverbs refer to a circumstance. :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Adverbs |- valign=top ! Circumstance--> !! Place<br>-m !! Time<br>-j !! Manner<br>-yen!! Degree<br>-gla !! Frequency<br>-xag !! Reason<br>-sav |- valign=center ! Interrogative | '''duhom?'''<br>''where?'' || '''duhoj?'''<br>''when?'' || '''duhoyen?'''<br>''how?'' || '''dugla?'''<br>''how (very)?'' || '''duxag?'''<br>''how often?''|| '''duavhos?'''<br>''why?'' |- valign=center ! Relative | '''hom'''<br>''where'' || '''hoj'''<br>''when'' || '''hoyen'''<br>''how'' || '''hogla'''<br>''how (very)'' || '''hoxag'''<br>''how often'' || '''avhos van'''<br>''because'' |- valign=center ! Exclamatory | || || '''hooyen'''<br>''and how!'' || '''hoogla'''<br>''how very...!'' || || |- valign=center ! Definite | '''ham'''<br>''the place'' || '''haj'''<br>''the time'' || '''hayen'''<br>''the manner'' || '''hagla'''<br>''just as'' || '''haxag'''<br>''as frequently''|| '''avhas'''<br>''the reason'' |- valign=center ! Indefinite | '''hem'''<br>''somewhere'' || '''hej'''<br>''sometime'' || '''heyen'''<br>''somehow'' || '''hegla'''<br>''somewhat'' || '''hexag'''<br>''somewhat often''||'''avhes'''<br>''for some reason'' |- valign=center ! Proximal | '''him'''<br>''here'' || '''hij'''<br>''now'' || '''hiyen'''<br>''this way'' || '''higla'''<br>''this'' || '''hixag'''<br>''this often''||'''avhis'''<br>''for this reason'' |- valign=center ! Immediate | '''hiim'''<br>''the following place'' || '''hiij'''<br>''the following time'' || '''hiiyen'''<br>''the following way'' || '''hiigla'''<br>''to the following degree'' || '''hiixag'''<br>''at the following frequency''||'''avhiis'''<br>''for the following reason'' |- valign=center ! Distal | '''hum'''<br>''there'' || '''huj'''<br>''then'' || '''huyen'''<br>''that way'' || '''hugla'''<br>''to that degree'' || '''huxag'''<br>''that often''|| '''avhus'''<br>''therefore'' |- valign=center ! Intensive | '''huum'''<br>''such a place'' || '''huuj'''<br>''at such a time'' || '''huuyen'''<br>''in such a way'' || '''huugla'''<br>''so (very)'' || '''huuxag'''<br>''so often''|| '''avhuus'''<br>''for such a reason'' |- valign=center ! Negative | '''hyom'''<br>''nowhere'' || '''hyoj'''<br>''never'' || '''hyoyen'''<br>''in no way'' || '''hyogla'''<br>''not at all'' || '''hyoxag'''<br>''not once''|| '''avhyos'''<br>''for no reason'' |- valign=center ! Distributive | '''hyam'''<br>''everywhere'' || '''hyaj'''<br>''always'' || '''hyayen'''<br>''in every way'' || '''hyagla'''<br>''fully'' || '''hyaxag'''<br>''always''||'''avhyas'''<br>''for every reason'' |- valign=center ! Indeterminate | '''hyem'''<br>''anywhere'' || '''hyej'''<br>''whenever'' || '''hyeyen'''<br>''however'' || '''hyegla'''<br>''however'' || '''hyexag'''<br>''however often'' || '''avhyes'''<br>''for whatever reason'' |- valign=center ! Indentical | '''hyim'''<br>''at the same place'' || '''hyij'''<br>''at the same time'' || '''hyiyen'''<br>''in the same way'' || '''hyigla'''<br>''as'' || '''hyixag'''<br>''as often''|| '''avhyis'''<br>''for the same reason'' |- valign=center ! Non-identical | '''hyum'''<br>''somewhere else'' || '''hyuj'''<br>''some other time'' || '''hyuyen'''<br>''otherwise'' || '''hyugla'''<br>''not as'' || '''hyuxag'''<br>''not as often''||'''avhyus'''<br>''for some other reason'' |} : Concerning the above chart, note the following: ::* The interrogative determiners all begin with '''duho-''', which means '''say which''', and are technically imperatives. '''Duhom?''', for example, means '''Tell (me) the place...'''. The '''o'''-stem forms without the '''du-''' are used as relative clause heads, eg. '''At po <u>hom</u> et po.'''....''I will go <u>where</u> you go.'' ::* Person determiners can be specified for gender. A determiner is made female by inserting a '''y''' after the ordinal, or male by inserting a '''w''' before the ordinal, eg. '''Huyti'''....''those females'' or '''Hwit'''....''this guy''. ::* Interrogatives usually come at the beginning of a sentence as in English, eg. '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* Determiners come first before any other epithets of a noun, eg. '''<u>Hia</u> aga jaga tam...'''....''<u>This</u> big old house...''. ::* Person and Thing determiners can be made selective by inserting '''a''' before the final '''t''' or '''s''', eg. '''Duot?''' means ''Who?'', while '''Duhoat?''' means ''Which one (of several persons)?'' :::* '''Duhoas?''''....''Which one? (things)'', '''Hias'''....''This one'', etc. :::* '''Duhoati?'''....''Which ones? (people)'', '''Huati'''....''Those'', etc. :::* '''Duhoyat?'''....''Which of us?'', '''Hyeyat'''....''Any of us'', etc. :::* '''Duhoyet?'''....''Which of you?'', '''Hyayet'''....''All of you'', etc. :::* '''Duhoyit?'''....''Which of them?'', '''Hyoyit'''....''None of them'', etc. ::* Also not included in the above chart is a related interrogative, which is a complementizer. :::* '''Duven...?'''.... (Question introducer) '''Is it true that...?, Say whether...''' ::::* '''<u>Duven</u> et se tadxwa?'''....''Are you married? (= <u>Say whether</u> you are married.)'' ::* The adverbs of degree in the above chart ('''duhogla?''', etc.) are interchangeable with adverbs ending in '''-nog'''....''degree'' ('''duhonog?'''....''to what degree?, how...?'', '''henog'''....''somewhat'') ::* Other deictic determiner adverbs of circumstance exist and are not on the above chart: :::* '''duhomep?'''....''which way?'' ::::* '''humep'''....''that way'' :::* '''duhobyun?'''....''to what end?'' ::::* '''hyobyun'''....''for no purpose'' :::* '''duhoizon?'''....''in which direction?'' ::::* ''''hyaizon'''....''in every direction'' :::* '''duhosauna'''....''what kind of'' ::::* '''hyesauna'''....''any kind of'' ==== Examples of Deictic Determiner Usage ==== ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ('''Duhos''' is pronounced '''du-HOS''') ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> se iyta twad?'''....''<u>Who</u> is her husband?'' ::* '''<u>Duhowat</u> se iyta twad?'''....''<u>Which one of the guys</u> is her husband?'' (selective) ::* '''<u>Duhoti</u> fe eker?'''....''<u>Who (pl.)</u> want to play?'' ::* '''<u>Hyas</u> se fia.'''....''<u>Everything</u> is fine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyat</u> tre et.'''....''<u>Everyone</u> knows you.'' ::* '''<u>Hyot</u> tre at.'''....''<u>Nobody</u> knows me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyati</u> ekeye fi.'''....''<u>All of them</u> are playing well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoti</u> ekeye fi.'''....''<u>None of them</u> are playing well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> yafe eker.'''....''<u>Anyone</u> can play.'' ::* '''<u>Hyes</u> yafwe.'''....''<u>Anything</u> is possible.'' ::* '''At fe <u>hyuyenat</u> be ata ekutyan.'''....''I want <u>someone else</u> on my team.'' ::* '''<u>Huuyenati</u> fyuxe yata oj.'''....''<u>Such people</u> harm our future.'' ::* '''Et yefe tepier <u>hiisi</u>.'''....''You must bear in mind <u>the following things</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et xa hus.'''.....''<u>How</u> did you do that?'' (pronounced '''du-ho-YEN''') ::* '''<u>Duavhos</u> iyt pia <u>huugla</u> jwa?'''....''<u>Why</u> did she leave <u>so</u> early?'' ::* '''<u>Hwita</u> tam se ga aga.'''....''<u>This guy's</u> house is bigger.'' ::* '''At voy ayse ha dyuni <u>bi huyti</u>.'''....''I don't have <u>those women's</u> names.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoa</u> tam se etas?'''....''<u>Which</u> house is yours?'' ::* '''<u>Huua</u> tej et ayse!'''....''<u>What a</u> life you have!'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyena</u> dyezuni ifxe et?'''....''<u>What kind of</u> movies do you like?'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> tef okwa?'''....''<u>Whose</u> hat was lost?'' ::* '''<u>Hota</u> tef okwa bese otwas.'''....''<u>Whose</u> hat was lost remains a mystery.'' ::* '''<u>Ha</u> tob ta yata dyuni.'''....''<u>The</u> man knew our names.'' ::* '''<u>Hoyena</u> dini at ife, et ufe.'''....''<u>The kind of</u> stories I love, you hate.'' ::* '''<u>Hea</u> mepi gawdyunxwo.'''....''<u>Certain</u> streets will be renamed.'' ::* '''<u>Heyena</u> fukyes uxaye purilp nyaunx.'''....''<u>Some kind of</u> accident has caused a traffic jam.'' ::* '''<u>Heta</u> abtaf kaxwa be ha zatem.'''.....''<u>Someone's</u> coat was found in the foyer.'' ::* '''<u>Hia</u> dyes se ata gwafwas.'''....''<u>This</u> book is my favorite.'' ::* '''<u>Hiia</u> duni se ofwa.'''....''<u>The following</u> words are prohibited.'' ::* '''<u>Hiiyena</u> axlyen voy afwu.'''....''<u>The following sort of</u> behavior would not be allowed.'' ::* '''<u>Hiyena</u> axlyen voy vayafwo.'''....''<u>This type of</u> behavior will not be tolerated.'' ::* '''<u>Hita</u> tim so yolza.'''....''<u>This person's</u> room will be blue.'' ::* '''<u>Hua</u> mas efwe gawvozilbwer.'''....''<u>That</u> wall needs to be repainted.'' ::* '''<u>Huua</u> dini yufxe tudi.'''....''<u>Such</u> stories scare children.'' ::* '''<u>Huyena</u> duni voy yeyfwe yixwer za at.'''....''<u>Such</u> words should not be used in front of me.'' ::* '''<u>Hwuta</u> tam magseye.'''....''<u>That guy's</u> house is on fire.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoa</u> din se ga kyitesa.'''....''<u>No</u> story is more important.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoyena</u> tes tesiyafwe.'''....''<u>No such</u> meaning can be inferred.'' ::* '''<u>Hyota</u> jatexdras sa ga fia.'''....''<u>Nobody's</u> plan is better.'' ::* '''<u>Hyos</u> oboxe huyt.'''....''<u>Nothing</u> bothers that gal.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> mepi izpe Roma.'''....''<u>All</u> roads lead to Rome.'' ::* '''<u>Hya ha</u> mepi se ebwa.'''....''<u>All the</u> roads are blocked.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> twob yefe xer ita gon.'''....''<u>Every</u> man must do his part.'' ::* '''<u>Hyayena</u> telami ese be hia domep.'''....''<u>All manner of</u> restaurants exist on this street.'' ::* '''<u>Hyata</u> tej se uka bi yaobi.'''....''<u>Everyone's</u> life is full of ups and downs.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaewa</u> domi agsaye.'''....''<u>Both</u> cities have grown.'' ::* '''<u>Hyea</u> voz so fia.'''....''<u>Any</u> color will be fine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeyena</u> til se aysyafwa.'''....''<u>Any kind of</u> drink is available.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeta</u> ved se ge ifa vyel atas.'''....''<u>Anyone's</u> guess is as good as mine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyea</u> tim et fe et yafe ayser.'''....''<u>Whatever</u> room you want, you can have.'' ::* '''<u>Hyia</u>/(Ha gea) fukyesi kyese glaxag.'''....''<u>The same</u> accidents occur frequently.'' ::* '''<u>Hyiyena</u>/(Ha geyena) dyezuni teaxuwa zajub.'''....''<u>The same kind of</u> films were shown yesterday.'' ::* '''<u>Hyita</u>/(Ha geta) dyun yixwa gajod.'''....''<u>The same person's</u> name was used again.'' ::* '''<u>Hyua</u> dyezun sa ga ifuyea.'''....''<u>The other</u> movie was more entertaining.'' ::* '''<u>Hyuyena</u>/(Ogeyena) som teasu ga fia.'''....''<u>Another kind of</u> furniture would look better.'' ::* '''<u>Hyuta</u>/(ogeta) texyen se ge fyia.'''....''<u>Someone else's</u> opinion is equally valid.'' ::* '''Ha dyuni <u>bi hiyti</u> voy dodrawe.'''....''<u>These women's</u> names have not been made public.'' ::* '''Ha dyuni <u>bi hwiiti</u> voy dodrowe.'''....''<u>The following males'</u> names will not be publicized.'' ::* '''<u>Hijaga</u> tobweti voy afwo him.'''....''Boys <u>of this age</u> will not be allowed here.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> et tambese?'''....''<u>Where</u> do you live?'' ::* '''At tambese <u>hum</u>.'''....''I live <u>there</u>.'' ::* '''Et tambese <u>hom</u> ha mep uje.'''....''You live <u>where</u> the road ends.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> yet peye?'''....''<u>Where</u> are you people going?'' ::* '''Et yafe per <u>hyem</u> et fu.'''....''You can go <u>anywhere</u> you would like.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> et byise?'''....''<u>Where</u> are you from?'' (Lit: ''Where do you originate?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoj</u> et taja?'''....''<u>When</u> were you born?'' ::* '''At voy tajaya <u>huj</u>.'''....''I had not been born <u>then</u>.'' ::* '''Et yeyfe duder <u>hiiyen</u>.'''....''You should respond <u>in the following way</u>.'' ::* '''Ot voy yefe daler <u>huuyen</u>.'''....''One must not talk <u>in such a manner</u>.'' ::* '''Et pia <u>hesav</u>.'''....''He left <u>for some reason</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et iyfe hia vifil?'''....''<u>How</u> do like this wine?'' ::* '''Voy se fia axler <u>hiyen</u>.'''....''It is not good to act <u>this way</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duavhos</u> et tadia <u>huugla</u> jwa?'''....''<u>Why</u> did you marry <u>so</u> late?'' ::* '''Ha twob pia <u>avhyos</u>.'''....''The man left <u>for no reason</u>.'' ::* '''Hwat pia <u>avhos van</u> it efa per hem.'''....''The guy left <u>because</u> he needed to go somewhere.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeta</u> texyen so fia.'''....''<u>Anyone</u>'s opinion will be fine.'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> dyes se his?'''....''Whose book is this?'' ::* '''<u>Bi hoti</u> se hia dyesi?'''....''Whose are these books?'' ::* '''<u>Hyata</u> tili yebexe yom.'''....''<u>Everyone's</u> drinks contain ice.'' ::* '''Et se gaj <u>geyenat</u>( ~ <u>hyiyenat</u>).'''....''You are still <u>the same kind of person</u>.'' : The semantic reverser '''o-''' can be prefixed to some of the above deictic determiners: :: '''<u>Ohyat</u> tiste Platon.'''....''<u>Not everyone</u> understands Plato.'' :: '''<u>Ohut!</u>'''....''Not that person!'' :: '''At iyfe gwa apovili, oy <u>ohuas</u>!'''....''I like most beers, but <u>not that one</u>!'' : If the definite article or any other deictic determiner is omitted before a noun, then it has the effect of the English indefinite article ''a / an'' with a singular noun or ''some'' with a plural noun. For example: ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ha tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>a glass</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ha tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>(some) glasses</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>awa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>one glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha awa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the one glass</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>two glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the two glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>hyaewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>both glasses</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>owa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>no/zero glasses (=not a single glass)</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ea tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>another/a second glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ea tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the second glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ea tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>second glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ea tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the second glasses</u> of wine.'' : If an indefinite article sense is needed for clarity, the words '''awa''' (''one'') or '''hea''' (''some, a certain'') can be used, eg.: ::* '''At igteata <u>awa</u> tob yiztyoper.'''....''I glimpsed <u>a</u> man walk by.'' ::* '''Wit zoyupo <u>hea</u> juab.'''....''He will come back on <u>a / a certain / some</u> Monday.'' ==== Selective vs. Non-Selective Forms ==== : The deictic interrogative determiner pronoun '''duhot?''' means ''who(m)'' and contrasts with its '''''selective''''' counterpart '''duhoat?''', which means ''which one?''. All the selective determiners refer to one or more things or persons from a selectable pool of things or persons. : The following sentences illustrate the use of the above determiner pronouns: ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> aka zajuba ek?'''....''<u>Who</u> won yesterday's game?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoat</u> bi ha akuti sa ha gwa fiat?'''....''<u>Which one</u> of the winners was the best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> tam se hus?'''....''<u>Whose</u> house is that?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotas</u> se hus?'''....''<u>Whose</u> is that?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotia</u> deuzi et gaife?'''....''<u>Whose</u> songs do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotias</u> et gaife?'''....''<u>Whose</u> do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* '''<u>Duhosi</u> se eta gaifuni?'''....''<u>What</u> are your preferences?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoa</u> deuzi se eta gwa fiasi?'''....''<u>Which</u> songs are your best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoasi</u> se eta gwa fiasi?'''....''<u>Which ones</u> are your best?'' ::* '''Bi hia deuzuti, <u>hoat</u> et gaife?'''....''Of these vocalists, <u>which one</u> do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Hiiti</u> yaneko hijub.'''....''<u>The following people</u> will compete today.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoati</u> se gwa fia?'''....''<u>Which ones</u> are best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoti</u> et teexe gwa jodi?'''....''<u>Who (all)</u> do you listen to the most often?'' ::* '''<u>Hoat</u> at teexe gwaxag draye ejna deuz.'''....''<u>The one</u> I listen to the most has written a new song.'' ::* '''Ejna deuz? At voy teste <u>hoas</u> et tede.'''....''New song? I don't understand <u>which one</u> you mean.'' ::* '''<u>Hias</u>.'''....''<u>This one</u>.'' ::* '''Vo. <u>Huasi</u> se ga fia.'''....''No. <u>Those</u> are better.'' ::* '''<u>His</u> se jub av ivxelen.'''....''<u>This</u> is a day for celebration.'' ::* '''Va. <u>Hia</u> jub. At tese <u>hi</u>jub.'''....''Yes. <u>This</u> day. I mean <u>To-</u>day.'' ::* '''<u>Husi</u> sa <u>ha</u> jubi, ata dat!'''....''<u>Those</u> were <u>the</u> days, my friend!'' ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> aka ha igpek?'''....''<u>Who</u> won the race?'' ::* '''<u>Hyas</u> uja fi.'''....''<u>Everything</u> ended well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyasi</u> uje.'''....''<u>All things</u> come to an end.'' ::* '''<u>Hyayenasi</u> vey kyesu.'''....''<u>All sorts of things</u> might happen.'' ::* '''<u>Hyos</u> yokxa at.'''....''<u>Nothing</u> surprised me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyot</u> ta hot ako.'''....''<u>Nobody</u> knew who would win.'' ::* '''<u>Hoayti</u> fu pier yefe.'''....''<u>Those females</u> who would like to leave may.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> yefe eker hia ifek.'''....''<u>Anyone</u> can play this game.'' ::* '''<u>Huyenasi</u> voy afwo.'''....''<u>Such things</u> will not be permitted.'' ::* '''<u>Hua twob</u> voy taxe hia toyb.'''....''<u>That</u> man does not remember this woman.'' ::* '''<u>Hwuti</u> yanyexe fi.'''....''<u>Those guys</u> work well together.'' ::* '''<u>Huuyti</u> hyaj yubixe tepzex.'''....''<u>Such females</u> always attract attention.'' ::* '''At jay teataye <u>hiyenasi</u>.'''....''I've seen <u>such things</u> before.'' ::* '''<u>Huyenwat</u> voy vabiwu.'''....''<u>A guy like that</u> would not be accepted.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyenasi</u> weti iyfe xer je ha maj.'''....''<u>What kinds of things</u> do you guys like to do during the day?'' === Numerical Deictic Determiners === : Sometimes, a deictic determiner specifies numerical information. This chart shows those forms: :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Number-incorporating Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! Adjective !! Inanimate Pronoun !! Animate Pronoun !! Pronominal Determiner !! Possessive Pronoun |- | '''hawa'''<sup>1</sup><br> ''the only'' || '''hawas'''<br>''the only thing''<br>'''hawasi'''<br>''the only things'' || '''hawat'''<br>''the only one (person)''<br>'''hawati'''<br>''the only ones''|| '''hawata'''<br>''the only person&apos;s'' || '''hawatas'''<br>''the only one&apos;s''<br>'''hawatasi'''<br>''the only one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyawa'''*<br> ''each'' || '''hyawas'''<br>''each one'' || '''hyawat'''<br>''each person''|| '''hyawata'''<br>''each person&apos;s'' || '''hyawatas'''<br>''each one&apos;s''<br>'''hyawatasi'''<br>''each one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyaewa'''<br>''both'' || '''hyaewasi'''<br>''both (<small>things</small>)'' || '''hyaewati'''<br>''both (<small>people</small>)''|| '''bi hyaewati'''<br>''both person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyaewati'''<br>''both person&apos;s''<br>'''hasi bi hyaewati'''<br>''both persone&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyaiwa'''<br>''all three'' || '''hyaiwasi'''<br>''all three (<small>things</small>)'' || '''hyaiwati'''<br>''all three (<small>people</small>)''|| '''hyaiwata'''<br>''all three person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyaiwati'''<br>''all three person&apos;s''<br>'''hasi bi hyaiwati'''<br>''all three person&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''ohyawa'''<br>''not every'' || '''ohyawas'''<br>''not everything'' || '''ohyawat'''<br>''not everyone''|| '''ohyawata'''<br>''not every person&apos;s'' || '''ohyawatas'''<br>''not everyone&apos;s''<br>'''ohyawatasi'''<br>''not everyone&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyoawa'''<br>''not a single'' || '''hyoawas'''<br>''not a single thing'' || '''hyoawat'''<br>''not a single person''|| '''hyowata'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s'' || '''hyowatas'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s''<br>'''hyowatasi'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyeawa'''<br>''either'' || '''hyeawas'''<br>''either one'' || '''hyeawat'''<br>''either one (<small>person</small>)''|| '''hyeawata'''<br>''either one&apos;s'' || '''hyeawatas'''<br>''either one&apos;s''<br>'''hyeawatasi'''<br>''either one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyeewa'''<br>''any two'' || '''hyeewasi'''<br>''any two things'' || '''hyeewati'''<br>''any two people''|| '''bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two persons&apos;''<br>'''hasi bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two persons&apos; (things)'' |- | '''hyeowa'''<br>''neither'' || '''hyeowas'''<br>''neither one'' || '''hyeowat'''<br>''neither person''|| '''hyeawata'''<br>''neither person&apos;s'' || '''hyeowatas'''<br>''neither one&apos;s''<br>'''hyeowatasi'''<br>''neither one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyuawa'''<br>''another'' || '''hyuawas'''<br>''another one'' || '''hyuawat'''<br>''another''|| '''hyuawata'''<br>''another&apos;s'' || '''hyuawatas'''<br>''another&apos;s''<br>'''hyuawatasi'''<br>''another&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyuowa'''<br>''no other'' || '''hyuowas'''<br>''nothing else'' || '''hyuowat'''<br>''nobody else''|| '''hyuowata'''<br>''no other&apos;s'' || '''hyuowatas'''<br>''no other&apos;s''<br>'''hyuowatasi'''<br>''no other&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''gawa'''<sup>2</sup><br>''another'' || '''gawas'''<br>''another one'' || '''gawat'''<br>''another (person)''|| '''gawata'''<br>''another&apos;s'' || '''gawatas'''<br>''another&apos;s''<br>'''gawatasi'''<br>''another&apos;s (things)'' |} <small> :: Note 1) '''Hawa''' and '''hyawa''' are short for '''haawa''' and '''hyaawa''', respectively. :: Note 2) '''Gawa''' is short for '''ga awa''', ''yet one''. </small> ==== Notes on Numerical Deictic Determiners ==== : Examples using the above number-incorporating deictic determiners: ::* '''<u>Ohyawat</u> se iva bay eta vaod.'''....''<u>Not everyone</u> is happy with your decision.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaewasi</u> yafwe uxler yata efoni.'''....''<u>Both (things)</u> can serve our needs.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeawa</u> tim ivlaxo at.'''....''<u>Either</u> room will satisfy me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowas</u> oivlaxo at.'''....''<u>Neither one</u> will dissatisfy me.'' : Note: ::* '''hyua''' means ''another (an alternative)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hyua</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>another (a different)</u> drink.'' ::* '''hyuawa''' means ''another (an additional)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hyuawa</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>another (an additional)</u> drink.'' ::* '''ha hyua''' means ''the other (the alternative)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>ha hyua</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>the other</u> drink.'' : Similarly, '''hya''' means ''every, all'', while '''hyawa''' means ''each'', and '''hyaha'''....''all the'', ex: ::* '''<u>Hya</u> dom ayse tebixea suni teaxer.'''....''<u>Every</u> city has interesting things to see.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> domi ayse tebixusi.'''....''<u>All</u> cities have things of interest.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaha</u> domi ayse tebixusi.'''....''<u>All the</u> cities have things of interest.'' ::* '''<u>Hyawa</u> dom ayse tebixun.'''....''<u>Each</u> city has something of interest.'' : Also, '''ha''' means ''the'', while '''hawa''' means ''the only'', eg.: ::* '''<u>Ha</u> twob hu at gwa ife se et.'''....''<u>The</u> man I most love is you.'' ::* '''<u>Hawa</u> toyb nazea ata tepzex se et.'''....''<u>The only</u> woman worth my attention is you.'' : By appending '''y''' to '''hawa''', we get the adverb '''haway'''....''only, solely'', eg; ::* '''<u>Haway</u> et nize ata tepzex.'''....''<u>Only</u> you deserve my attention.''. : The singular person pronouns in the above chart can be converted into pronominal determiners by adding the adjective suffix '''a''', eg.: ::* '''<u>Hyawata</u> tej se ge glatesa vyel hyutas.'''....''<u>Each one's</u> life is as important as another's.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowata</u> dyun se vyama.'''....''<u>Neither person's</u> name is real.'' : However, the plural person pronouns in the above chart use the preposition '''bi''' (''of'') to form possessives, eg.: ::* '''Ha teji <u>bi hyaiwati</u> se kyebukuwa.'''....''The lives <u>of all three</u> are in danger.'' : The above singular pronominal determiners can, in turn, be converted into inanimate pronouns with the suffix '''-s'''. ::* '''<u>Hyawatas</u> se glatesa.'''....''<u>Each one's</u> is important.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowatas</u> se vyama.'''....''<u>Neither's</u> is real.'' : The plural pronominal determiners can be nominalized with the use of '''bi''', eg: ::* '''<u>Hyaiwasi</u> <u>bi huti</u> se kyebukuwa.'''....''<u>All three</u> <u>of theirs'</u> are in danger.'' : Correlative Number-incorporating Deictic Determiners are handled as follows: ::* '''Hyeawa A ey B'''....''either A or B'' ::* '''Hyeowa A oy B'''....''neither A nor B'' ::* '''Hyaewa A ay B'''....''both A and B'' ::* '''Hawa A, voy B'''....''only A, not B'' : The different, somewhat confusing, meanings of ''how'' are illustrated here: ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> wit xa hus?'''....''<u>How</u> did he do that?''.... (Equivalent to '''Be duha byen...?'''....''In what way...?'') (ADVERB OF MANNER) ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et xeye?'''....''<u>How</u> are you doing?''.... (This is the normal way of saying ''How are you?'' or ''How do you do?'' (ADVERB OF MANNER) ::* '''<u>Duhoyena</u> sa ha dyezun?'''....'' <u>How</u> was the film?''.... (''How'' here is an ADJECTIVE OF KIND, and thus ends in '''-a'''.) ::* '''<u>Duhonog (= Duhogla)</u> aga it se?'''....''<u>How</u> big is he?''.... (ADVERB OF DEGREE) ::* '''<u>Huunog (= Huugla)</u> iyfla et se!'''....''<u>How</u> nice you are!''.... (ADVERB OF EMPHATIC DEGREE) : The conjunction ''as'' is expressed most often using relative pro-adverbs of manner: ::* '''Xu <u>hoyen</u> at de.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I say.'' = (in) the way that... ::* '''Xu <u>hyiyen</u>''' (~ '''geyen''') '''at xe.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I do. ( = (in) the same way that...)'' ::* '''Xu <u>hiiyen</u>:'''....''Do <u>as follows</u>. ( = (in) this hereby manner...)'' : However, the preposition/conjunction '''gel''' (''like, as'') can be substituted: ::* '''Xu <u>gel</u> at de.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I say.'' : Many of the determiner adverbs in the above chart can be used in relative clauses, eg: ::* '''At teato et <u>hoj</u> et puo him.'''....''I will see you <u>when</u> you get here.'' ::* '''It xa has <u>avhos van</u> tosa yefa.'''....''He did it <u>because (for the reason that)</u> he felt compelled.'' ::* '''<u>Hyem</u> et po, et so ga iva.'''....''<u>Wherever</u> you go, you'll be happier.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> te ha did, yabu eta tuyab.'''....''<u>Whoever</u> knows the answer, raise your hand.'' ::* '''At te <u>hoyen</u> et xa is.'''....''I know <u>how</u> you did it.'' : See more about this in the section on [[Mirad_Grammar/Syntax#Relative_Clauses|relative clauses under Syntax]]. === Pronominal Deictic Determiners === : Some words in Mirad incorporate deictic prefixes with pronouns and pronominal adjectives, as shown in the following chart: {{small/top}} :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size;smaller;" |+ Pronominal Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! colspan=3 | Pronoun |- ! 1st Person Plural !! 2nd Person Plural !! 3rd Person Plural |- | '''duhoyat'''<br>''which of us'' || '''duhoyet'''<br>''which of you'' || '''duhoyit'''<br>''which of them'' |- | '''heyat'''<br>''some of us'' || '''heyet'''<br>''some of you'' || '''heyit'''<br>''which of them'' |- | '''hyayat'''<br>''each of us'' || '''hyayet'''<br>''each of you'' || '''hyayit'''<br>''each of them'' |- | '''hyeyat'''<br>''any of us'' || '''hyeyet'''<br>''any of you'' || '''hyeyit'''<br>''any of them'' |- | '''hyoyat'''<br>''none of us'' || '''hyoyet'''<br>''none of you'' || '''hyoyit'''<br>''none of them'' |- ! colspan=3 | Pronominal Adjective |- ! 1st Person (Plural) !! 2nd Person (Plural) !! 3rd Person (Plural) |- | '''duhoyata'''<br>''which of our'' || '''duhoyet'''<br>''which of your'' || '''duhoyita'''<br>''which of their'' |- | '''heyata'''<br>''some of our'' || '''heyeta'''<br>''some of your'' || '''heyita'''<br>''which of their'' |- | '''hyayata'''<br>''each of our'' || '''hyayeta'''<br>''each of your'' || '''hyayita'''<br>''each of their'' |- | '''hyeyata'''<br>''any of our'' || '''hyeyeta'''<br>''any of your'' || '''hyeyita'''<br>''any of their'' |- ! colspan=3 | Singular/(Plural) Possessive Pronoun |- ! 1st Person (Plural) !! 2nd Person (Plural) !! 3rd Person (Plural) |- | '''duhoyatas(i)'''<br>''which of ours'' || '''duhoyetas(i)'''<br>''which of yours'' || '''duhoyitas(i)'''<br>''which of theirs'' |- | '''heyatas(i)'''<br>''some of ours'' || '''heyetas(i)'''<br>''some of yours'' || '''heyitas(i)'''<br>''which of theirs'' |- | '''hyayatas(i)'''<br>''each of ours'' || '''hyayetas(i)'''<br>''each of yours'' || '''hyayitas(i)'''<br>''each of theirs'' |- | '''hyeyatas(i)'''<br>''any of ours'' || '''hyeyetas(i)'''<br>''any of yours'' || '''hyeyitas(i)'''<br>''any of theirs'' |- | '''hyoyatas(i)'''<br>''none of ours'' || '''hyoyetas(i)'''<br>''none of yours'' || '''hyoyitas(i)'''<br>''none of theirs'' |} {{small/end}} : The above possessive pronouns refer to things. If you replace the final '''-s''' or '''-si''', to '''-t''' or '''-ti''', then they become animate and refer to people, eg.: ::* '''Ese ewa tudi him. Duhoyitas se his?'''....''There are two children here. Which one of theirs is this?'' : All of the forms in the above chart can also be expressed as separate words, eg.: ::* '''Duhoyet?'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Duhoat bi yet?'''....''Which one of you?'' ::* '''Hyayat'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaglati bi yet'''....''All of us.'' ::* '''Hyoyatasi'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyogla yatasi'''....''All of ours (things)'' Note: ::* '''Awayat'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Awat bi yat'''....''one of us'' ::* '''Hyaewayet'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaewat bi yet'''....''both of you'' ::* '''Hyaiwayit'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaiwat bi yit'''....''all three of them'' === Quantitative Deictic Determiners === : The deictic prefixes can be combined with '''gla''' to form quantitative expressions acting as adverbial or adjectival determiners, and substantives (pronouns referring to things or people): {{small/top}} :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size;smaller;" |+ Quantitative Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! !! Adverbial / Adjectival<br>Determiner !! Inanimate Singular<br>Pronoun !! Inanimate Plural <br>Pronoun !! Animate Plural<br>Pronoun |- !row=1|Interrogative | '''duhogla?'''<br>''how?/how much?/how many?'' || '''duhoglas?'''<br>''how much?'' || '''duhoglasi?'''<br>''how many'' || '''duhoglati?'''<br>''how many (people)?'' |- !row=1|Relative | '''hogla'''<br>''as many/much'' || '''hoglas'''<br>''how much'' || '''duhoglasi'''<br>''how many'' || '''duhoglati'''<br>''how many (as)'' |- !row=1|Definite | '''hagla'''<br>''how/as much/as many'' || '''haglas'''<br>''as much'' || '''haglasi'''<br>''as many'' || '''haglati'''<br>''as many (people)'' |- !row=1|Indefinite | '''hegla'''<br>''somewhat/some/some'' || '''heglas'''<br>''some'' || '''heglasi'''<br>''some'' || '''heglati'''<br>''some (people)'' |- !row=1|Proximal | '''higla'''<br>''this/this much/this many'' || '''higlas'''<br>''this much'' || '''higlasi'''<br>''this many'' || '''higlati'''<br>''this many (people)'' |- !row=1|Distal | '''hugla'''<br>''that/that much/that many'' || '''huglas'''<br>''that much'' || '''huglasi'''<br>''that many'' || '''huglati'''<br>''that many (people)'' |- !row=1|Intensive | '''huugla'''<br>''so very, so much, so many'' || '''huuglas'''<br>''so much'' || '''huuglasi'''<br>''so many'' || '''huuglati'''<br>''so many (people)'' |- !row=1|Negative | '''hyogla'''<br>''none, not very'' || '''hyoglas'''<br>''none of it'' || '''hyoglasi'''<br>''none of them '' || '''hyoglati'''<br>''none'' |- !row=1|Distributive | '''hyagla'''<br>''totally/all/all'' || '''hyaglas'''<br>''all of it'' || '''hyaglasi'''<br>''all of them'' || '''hyaglati'''<br>''all'' |- !row=1|Indeterminate | '''hyegla'''<br>''however/any/any'' || '''hyeglas'''<br>''any of it'' || '''hyeglasi'''<br>''any of them'' || '''hyeglati'''<br>''any number of them'' |- !row=1|Identical | '''hyigla'''<br>''as/as much/as many, equally'' || '''hyiglas'''<br>''the same amount'' || '''hyiglasi'''<br>''the same number'' || '''hyiglati'''<br>''as many (people)'' |- !row=1|Non-identical | '''hyugla'''<br>''not as much/not as much/not as many'' || '''hyuglas'''<br>''a different amount'' || '''hyuglasi'''<br>''a different number of things'' || '''hyuglati'''<br>''a different number of people'' |} {{Small/end}} : Here are some examples showing how these quantitative determiners are used: ::* '''Et deuze <u>huugla</u> fi.'''....''You sing <u>so</u> well.'' ::* '''At se <u>hegla</u> booka.'''....''I am <u>somewhat</u> tired.'' ::* '''<u>Duhogla</u> pati et teata hijub?'''....''<u>How many</u> birds did you see today?'' ::* '''At teata vyavay <u>hugla</u> tami.'''....''I saw exactly <u>that many</u> houses.'' ::* '''Iyt fe <u>hyiglas</u> vyel et.'''....''She wants <u>the same amount</u> as you.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoglati</u> yantexe yet?'''....''<u>How many (people)</u> agree with you?'' ::* '''<u>Hyoglati</u> yantexe.'''....''<u>None</u> agree.'' ::* '''Yit fu <u>heglasi</u>.'''....''They would like <u>some (of them)</u>.'' ::* '''Et yafe bier <u>hyeglasi</u> et fe.'''....''You can take <u>however many</u> you want.'' ::* '''Besu bay at <u>hogla</u> job et fe.'''....''Stay <u>as</u> long with me as you want.'' ::* '''At se <u>huugla</u> booka.'''....''I am <u>so</u> tired.'' : NOTE: The following determiners are synonymous and interchangeable: ::* '''hegla''' = '''gle''' = '''henog''' (''somewhat, to some degree'') ::* '''hyigla''' = '''ge''' = '''hyinog''' (''as, equally, to the same degree'') : The determiner ''huugla'' can be used as an exclamatory adverb, eg.: ::* '''<u>Huugla</u> et agsaye!'''....''<u>How</u> you have grown!'' ::* '''Hua twob jagsaye <u>huugla</u>!'''....''That man has aged <u>so much</u>!'' ::* '''Hia jotul se <u>huugla</u> fiteluza!'''....''This dessert is <u>sooo</u> delicious!'' == Pronominal Determiners == : Pronominal Determiners are what are more often called '''''possessive adjectives''''' such as ''my'' or ''your'' and are discussed in a subsection of [[Mirad Grammar/Pronouns#Pronominal Determiners|Pronouns]]. == Quantitative Determiners == : '''''Quantitative determiners''''' act in one of several ways, they: ::* specify mass, uncountable, singular nouns for relative AMOUNT, eg. ''much happiness, less work'' ::* specify countable nouns for relative NUMBER, eg. ''one apple, two birds, many places'' ::* specify adverbs, adjectives, and verbs for relative DEGREE, eg. ''how poorly, very good, eat too much''. : From these, pronominalized quantitative determiners for PERSONS and THINGS can be derived. ::* Inanimate singular pronouns are formed by adding '''s''' for AN AMOUNT OF A THING ::* Inanimate plural pronouns are formed by adding '''si''' for A NUMBER OF THINGS ::* Animate plural pronouns are formed by adding '''ti''' for A NUMBER OF PERSONS. : The following table presents most of these word forms (Note that the determiners are in a plus (+), equal (=), or minus (-) row.): {| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; margin-left:1.6em; font-size:smaller;" |+ Quantitative Determiners |- !colspan=2|Adverb / Adjective !! Singular Pronoun !!colspan=2| Plural Pronoun |- !colspan=2|Degree/Amount/Number !! Amount !! Number of Things !! Number of People |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''ga'''....''more'' || '''gas'''....''more (stuff)'' || '''gasi'''....''many (things)'' || '''gati'''....''many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''ge'''....''as, as much, as many'' || '''ges'''....''as much (stuff)'' || '''gesi'''....''as many (things)'' || '''geti'''....''as many people'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''go'''....''less, fewer'' || '''gos'''....''less (stuff)'' || '''gosi'''....''fewer (things)'' || '''goti'''....''fewer (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gla'''....''very, much, many''<br>'''glay'''....''so, so much, so many''<br>'''glaa'''....''several'' || '''glas'''....''much (stuff)''<br>'''glays'''....''so much stuff'') || '''glasi'''....''many (things)''<br>'''glaysi'''....''so many (things)''<br>'''glaasi'''....''several things''|| '''glati'''....''many (people)''<br>'''glayti'''....''so many (people)''<br>'''glaati'''....''several people'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gle'''....''rather, quite a lot, quite a few'' || '''gles'''....''quite a lot (of stuff)'' || '''glesi'''....''quite a lot (of things)'' || '''gleti'''....''quite a few (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''glo'''....''slightly, a little, few'' || '''glos'''....''a little bit'' || '''glosi'''....''a few (things)'' || '''gloti'''....''few (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gra'''....''too, too much, too many'' || '''gras'''....''too much (stuff)'' || '''grasi'''....''too many (things)'' || '''grati'''....''too many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gre'''....''enough'' || '''gres'''....''enough (stuff)'' || '''gresi'''....''enough (things)'' || '''greti'''....''enough (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''gro'''....''insufficiently, too little, too few'' || '''gros'''....''too little'' || '''grosi'''....''too few'' || '''groti'''....''too few (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gwa'''....''most'' || '''gwas'''....''the most (stuff)'' || '''gwasi'''....''the most (things)'' || '''gwati'''....''most people'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gwe'''....''just so (much/many)'' || '''gwes'''....''just so much'' || '''gwesi'''....''just so many'' || '''gweti'''....''just so many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''gwo'''....''least'' || '''gwos'''....''the least (stuff)'' || '''gwosi'''....''the least (number of)'' || '''gwoti'''....''the least number (of people)'' |} : Examples Using Graded Quantitative Determiners :: Adverbs of degree modifying an adjective: :::* '''At se <u>gla</u> iva.'''....''I am <u>very</u> happy.'' :::* '''Et sa <u>gra</u> uga.'''....''You were <u>too</u> slow.'' :: Adverbs of Degree modifying another adverb: :::* '''Twobi dale <u>ge</u> igay vyel toybi.'''....''Men talk <u>as</u> fast as women.'' :::* '''Yat yexe <u>ga igay</u> vyel yet.'''....''We work faster (= <u>more quickly</u>) than you.'' :: Adjectives quantifying a singular mass noun: :::* '''<u>Ga</u> nas efwo.'''....''<u>More</u> money will be needed.'' :::* '''<u>Gra</u> nas noxwa.'''....''<u>Too much</u> money was spent.'' :: Adjectives quantifying a plural countable noun (= things or people): :::* '''At ayse <u>gro</u> sari.'''....''I've got <u>too few</u> tools.'' :::* '''<u>Gla</u> tami osexwa.'''....''<u>Many</u> houses were destroyed.'' :::* '''Yat efe <u>gla ga</u> valkdibuti.'''....''We need <u>many more</u> policemen.'' :: Pronouns referring to a mass amount of something (= stuff): :::* '''<u>Gas</u> ilokeye.'''....''<u>More (stuff)</u> is leaking.'' :::* '''Et dileye <u>gras</u>.'''....''You are asking for <u>too much (stuff)</u>.'' :::* '''Yat kexo <u>gwas</u>.'''....''We will seek <u>as much (stuff) as possible</u>.'' :::* '''At iba <u>gwes</u>.'''....''I received <u>just the right amount.</u>'' :: Pronouns referring to a countable number of things: :::* '''Hisi se fia oy yat fe <u>gasi</u>.'''....''These (items) are good but we want <u>more (items)</u>.'' :::* '''At teate drilari oy <u>grosi</u>.'''....''I see pens, but <u>too few</u>.'' :: Pronouns referring to a countable number of people: :::* '''<u>Grati</u> xaye vyoki be hia yexem.'''....''<u>Too many (people)</u> have made mistakes at this work site.'' :::* '''<u>Glati</u> dyunwe oy <u>gloti</u> kebiwe.'''....''<u>Many</u> are called but <u>few</u> are chosen.'' == Numerical Determiners == : This category of determiners, which includes cardinal, ordinal and other number words like ''two'', ''a tenth'', and ''first'', is such a vast topic that it is treated in its own chapter [[Mirad_Grammar/Numbers]] <noinclude>{{Chapter navigation with TOC|Adverbs|Numbers}}</noinclude> 28hr8m9tv5m72cis319r5d5vs4b94ev 4520816 4520813 2025-07-01T18:20:00Z Tyoyafud 6233 /* Deictic Determiner Adjectives */ 4520816 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>{{status|100%}}</noinclude> : Determiners are words that specify or point out the context of nouns and other parts of speech. The English determiner ''this'', for example, specifies a noun for its proximity to the current context. In English, demonstrative pronouns/adjectives/adverbs, possessive pronouns/adjectives, quantifiers like ''more'' and ''very'', and numeric expressions like ''both'' fall under this category. == Types of Determiners == : Determiners in Mirad fall into the following categories: ::{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Types of Determiners |- ! Type !! Also Known As !! English Examples |- !row=1| Deictic | Demonstrative Pronouns/Adjectives/Adverbs || ''the'', ''this'', ''some'', ''every'', ''which?'', ''when'' |- !row=1| Pronominal | Possessive Pronouns/Adjectives | ''my'', ''anybody&apos;s'', ''one&apos;s own'' |- !row=1| Quantitative | Quantifiers || ''more'', ''less'', ''very'' |- !row=1| Numerical | Numerals/Fractions/Ordinals/Dates, etc. || ''one'', ''half'', ''first'' |} : Furthermore, as for part of speech, determiners can be adjectives, pronouns, or adverbs. As adjectives, determiners can itemize or classify. As pronouns, they can refer to one or more persons (male or female) or things. As adverbs, they can specify circumstance, i.e. time, place, degree, kind, age, frequency, and so forth. == Deictic Determiners == : '''''Deictic determiners''''' are words which point out or ''specify'' other words as to their context, including what grammarians often call '''''demonstratives'''''. All deictic determiners in Mirad begin with the letter '''h'''. The letters following the '''h''' indicate the grammatical and semantic category. : Deictic determiners include the following traditional grammatical categories: <div style="background: lightyellow"> ::* '''''Demonstrative adjectives ''''' like ''this'', ''that'', ''those'', ''that one'' ::* '''''The definite article''''' ''the ''&nbsp;&nbsp; (which is really a '''''demonstrative adjective''''' like those above.) ::* '''''Demonstrative pronouns''''' like ''this'', ''that'', ''those'', ''that one'' ::* '''''Interrogative and relative pronouns''''' like ''who, which, that'' ::* '''''Indefinite adjectives''''' like ''any'', ''some'', ''all'', ''something'', ''such'', etc. ::* '''''Indefinite pronouns''''' like ''any'', ''some'', ''all'', ''something'', ''such'', etc. ::* '''''Pronouns, adjectives, and adverbs of quantity''''' like ''so much'', ''that many'', ''how many?'', ''very'', etc. ::* '''''Adverbs of circumstance:''''' :::* '''''time''''' like ''when'', ''now'', ''ever'' :::* '''''place''''' like ''there'', ''here'', ''somewhere'' :::* '''''manner''''' like ''how'', ''thus'', ''somehow'' :::* '''''kind''''' like ''so'', age ''this year old'' :::* '''''direction''''' like ''that way'', ''any which way'' :::* '''''reason''''' ''why?'', ''for that reason'', ''for no reason'' :::* '''''degree''''' ''this (well)'', ''so (good)'', ''how (bad)'' :::* '''''frequency''''' like ''how often'', ''so often'', ''never'' :::* '''''age''''' like ''this old'', ''how old?'', ''of any age'' </div> === Deictic Prefixes === [[File:Deixis (DE).png|thumb|none]] : There is a whole set of '''''correlative deictic prefixes''''', which are joined to circumstantial stub category suffixes to derive pronoun, adjective, and adverb determiners. In some grammars, these words are called ''wh-question words and their pointed answers''. For example, QUESTION: <u>Who</u> is your wife? ANSWER: <u>This</u> is my wife. (or) QUESTION: <u>Where</u> is your house? ANSWER: My house is <u>here</u>. These word forms are called correlative because they relate to one another in way that can be mapped to a table. : Here are the Mirad deictic classification prefixes: :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Deictic Prefixes |- ! Classification !! Deictic Prefix |- ! scope="row" | Interrogative | '''duho-...?'''....''what?, which?'' |- ! scope="row" | Relative | '''ho-'''....''which, that'' |- ! scope="row" | Exclamatory | '''hoo-'''....''how...!'' |- ! scope="row" | Definite | '''ha-'''....''the'' |- ! scope="row: | Indefinite | '''he-'''....''some, a certain'' |- ! scope="row" | Proximal | '''hi-'''....''this, these'' |- ! scope="row" | Immediate | '''hii-'''....''the following'' |- ! scope="row" | Distal | '''hu-'''....''that, those'' |- ! scope="row" | Intensive | '''huu-'''....''such, so, what a...!'' |- ! scope="row" | Distributive | '''hya-'''....''every, all, each'' |- ! scope="row" | Indeterminate | '''hye-'''....''any, whatever'' |- ! scope="row" | Negative | '''hyo-'''....''no, not any'' |- ! scope="row | Identical | '''hyi-'''....''the same, the very'' |- ! scope="row" | Non-identical | '''hyu-'''....''the other, another, else'' |} : Note: The Identical ('''hyi-''') and Non-identical prefixes ('''hyu-''') can optionally be substituted with '''ge-''' (''same'') and '''oge-''' (different), respectively. === Circumstantial Category Suffixes === : The table below shows word stub suffixes that indicate the circumstantial category of deictic expressions. They are called stubs, because they are reduced word forms. The combination of deictic prefixes and circumstantial stub suffixes produce a matrix of deictic '''''correlatives''''', seen later in this chapter. Use of the stub instead of the long form is a matter of optional economy. A few categories do not have stubs. :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Category Stubs |- ! Category !! Stub Suffix !! Long Form !! Short Question Form || Long Question Form |- ! row=1| Person | '''-t''' || '''<u>t</u>ob'''....''person'' || '''duhot?'''....''who?''|| '''duhotob?''' |- ! row=1| Thing | '''-s''' ||'''<u>s</u>un'''....''thing'' || '''duhos?'''....''what?''|| '''duhosun?''' |- ! row=1| Place | '''-m''' ||'''ne<u>m</u>'''....''place'' || '''duhom?'''....''where?''|| '''duhonem?''' |- ! row=1| Time | '''-j''' ||'''<u>j</u>ob'''....''time'' || '''duhoj?'''....''when?''|| '''duhojob?''' |- ! row=1| Manner | '''-yen''' ||'''b<u>yen</u>'''....''manner'' || '''duhoyen?'''....''how?''||'''duhobyen?''' |- ! row=1| Kind | '''-yena''' ||'''sauna</u>'''....''kind of'' || '''duhoyena?'''....''what kind of?''||'''duhosauna?''' |- ! row=1| Degree | '''-gla''' ||'''nog'''....''degree'' || '''duhogla (fi)?'''....''how (well)?''||'''duhonog?''' |- ! row=1| Number | '''-gla''' ||'''sag'''....''number'' || '''duhogla (pati)?'''....''how many (birds)?''||'''duhosag?''' |- ! row=1| Mass Quantity | '''-gla''' ||'''glan'''....''amount'' || '''duhogla (mil)?'''....''how much (water)?''||'''duhoglan?''' |- ! row=1| Frequency | ||'''xag'''....''frequency''|| '''duhoxag?'''....''how often?''|| -- |- ! row=1| Reason | '''-avhos''' || '''av hosun'''....''reason'' || '''duavhos?'''....''why?''|| '''duavhosun?''' |- ! row=1| Age | ||'''jaga'''....''of age'' || '''duhojaga?'''....''how old?''|| -- |} : There can be other circumstantial categories other than those listed above, such as "direction", "order", etc. eg. '''Duhomep wit pa?'''....''Which way did he go?''. === Charts of Correlative Deictic Determiners === : Here is are three tables showing the matrix of correlative deictic determiners. Note that the determiners belong to three parts of speech, 1) adjectives, 2) pronouns, and 3) adverbs: :{| class="wikitable" font-size:smaller style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |- ! Part of Speech !! Ending |- | Adjective || '''-a''' |- | Pronoun || '''-t(i)''', '''-s(i)''' |- | Adverb || (no ending) |} ==== Deictic Determiner Adjectives ==== : All deictic determiner adjectives end in '''-a''' and are used to modify nouns. :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Adjectives |- valign=top ! !! Selective<br>-a!! Possessive<br>-ta !! Kind/Manner<br>-yena !! Quantity<br>-gla !! Age<br>-jaga |- ! Interrogative |'''duhoa?'''<br>''which?''||'''duhota?'''<br>''whose?''|| '''duhoyena?'''<br>''what kind of?''||'''duhogla?'''<br>''how much/many?'' ||'''duhojaga?'''<br>''how old?'' |- valign=top ! Relative |'''hoa'''<br>''which''||'''hota'''<br>''whose''|| '''hoyena'''<br>''what kind of''||'''hogla'''<br>''how much/many'' ||'''hojaga'''<br>''how old'' |- valign=top ! Exclamatory |'''hooa'''<br>''what a...!''|| || ||'''hoogla'''<br>''look how much/many...!'' ||'''hoojaga'''<br>''how old a...!'' |- valign=top ! Definite |'''ha'''<sup>1</sup><br>''the''||'''hatas'''<br>''the person’s''|| '''hayena'''<br>''of the kind''||'''hagla'''<br>''of the amount'' ||'''hajaga'''<br>''of the age'' |- valign=top ! Indefinite |'''hea'''<br>''some/a certain''||'''heta'''<br>''someone's''|| '''heyena'''<br>''some kind of''||'''hegla'''<br>''some'' ||'''hejaga'''<br>''somewhat old'' |- valign=top ! Proximal |'''hia'''<br>''this''||'''hita'''<br>''this person’s''|| '''hiyena'''<br>''this kind of''||'''higla'''<br>''this much'' ||'''hijaga'''<br>''this old'' |- valign=top ! Immdediate |'''hiia'''<br>''the following''||'''hiita'''<br>''the follow person’s''|| '''hiiyena'''<br>''the following kind of'' || '''hiigla'''<br>''to the following degree'' ||'''hiijaga'''<br>''of the following age'' |- valign=top ! Distal |'''hua'''<br>''that''||'''huta'''<br>''that person’s''|| '''huyena'''<br>''that kind of'' ||'''hugla'''<br>''that much/many'' ||'''hujaga'''<br>''of that age'' |- valign=top ! Intensive |'''huua'''<br>''such a''||'''huuta'''<br>''such a person’s''|| '''huuyena'''<br>''such kind of'' ||'''huugla'''<br>''so much/many'' ||'''huujaga'''<br>''of such an age'' |- valign=top ! Negative |'''hyoa'''<br>''no''||'''hyota'''<br>''nobody’s''|| '''hyoyena'''<br>''no kind of'' ||'''hyogla'''<br>''no amount/number of'' ||'''hyojaga'''<br>''of no age'' |- valign=top ! Distributive |'''hya'''<sup>1</sup><br>''every, all''||'''hyata'''<br>''everybody’s''|| '''hyayena'''<br>''every kind of'' ||'''hyagla'''<br>''all'' ||'''hyajaga'''<br>''of every age'' |- valign=top ! Indeterminate |'''hyea'''<br>''whichever/any''<sup>2</sup>||'''hyeta'''<br>''whosever''|| '''hyeyena'''<br>''whatever/any kind of'' ||'''hyegla'''<br>''however much/many'' ||'''hyejaga'''<br>''however old'' |- valign=top ! Identical |'''hyia'''<br>''the same''||'''hyita'''<br>''the same person’s''|| '''hyiyena'''<br>''the same kind of'' ||'''hyigla'''<br>''just as'' ||'''hyijaga'''<br>''just as old'' |- valign=top ! Non-identical |'''hyua'''<br>''the other''||'''hyuta'''<br>''someone else's''|| '''hyuyena'''<br>''another kind of'' ||'''hyugla'''<br>''not as much/many'' ||'''hyujaga'''<br>''of another age'' |} : There are other adjectival determiners such as '''duhonoga'''....''how/to what degree'', '''duhosauna'''....''what kind of'' that are not included in the above chart. :Note 1) The determiners '''ha''' (''the'') and '''hya''' (''every'') are shortened forms of '''haa''' and '''hyaa'''. Also, '''ha''' is commonly called a "definite article". ::* While '''hya''' means ''every'' or ''all'', the word '''hyawa''' is used for ''each''. ::* The possessive adjective forms in the above table ending in '''-ta''' such as '''hyeta'''....''whosever'' cannot be pluralized by the ending '''-tia'''. To say '''other people's''', use the expression '''bi hyuti''' (Lit. ''of others''). ::* The '''ho-''' words are relative, meaning that they can serve to form relative clauses like the following: :::* '''Ha toyb, <u>hota</u> twad se Bill,'''....''The woman, <u>whose</u> husband is Bill,'' :::* '''At voy te <u>hos</u> et tepfe.'''....''I don't know <u>what</u> you mean.'' :::* '''At teste <u>hogla</u> et fie iyt.'''....''I understand <u>how much</u> you love her.'' ::* The '''hoo-''' words are exclamatory and are used in expressions like the following: :::* '''<u>Hoogla</u> iva se at van et upa!'''....''<u>How</u> glad I am that you came!'' :::* '''<u>Hooa</u> jub his saye!'''....''<u>What a</u> day this has been!'' ('''Hooa''' is pronounced ''ho-O-a'' as three syllables.) :Note 2) The indeterminant determiners can also be translated with ''no matter what, no matter where, etc.'' ==== Deictic Determiner Pronouns ==== : All deictic determiner pronouns end either in '''-t''' for persons or '''-s''' for things. They can be singular or plural ('''-i'''). :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Pronouns |- valign=top ! !! Thing -s<br>Things -si !! Person -t<br>Persons -ti !! Kind of Thing -yenas<br>Kinds of Things -yenasi !! Amount -glas<br>Number of Things -glasi !! Number of People -glati |- valign=center ! Interrogative |'''duhos?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what?''<br>'''duhosi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what (things)?''|| '''duhot?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who?''<br>'''duhoti?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who (pl.)''|| '''duhoyenas?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what kind of thing?'' <br>'''duhoyenasi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;what kinds of things?|| '''duhoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how much?''<br>'''duhoglasi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many things?''|| '''duhoglati?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many people?'' |- valign=center ! Relative |'''hos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what''<br>'''hosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what''|| '''hot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who''<br>'''hoti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who''|| '''hoyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what kind of thing'' <br>'''hoyenasi'''|| '''hoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how much''<br>'''hoglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many''|| '''hoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many'' |- ! Exclamatory |'''hoos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a thing!''<br>'''hoosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what things!''|| '''hoot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a person!''<br>'''hooti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what people!''|| || '''hooglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what an amount!''<br>'''hooglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a number!''|| '''hoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a number of people!'' |- valign=center ! Definite |'''has'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''it''<br>'''hasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''they/them''|| '''hat'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''he/she/him/her''<br>'''hati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''they/them''|| '''hayenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the king of thing''<br>'''hayenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the kind of things''|| '''haglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the amount'' <br>'''haglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the number of things''|| '''haglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the number of people'' |- valign=center ! Indefinite |'''hes'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''something''<br>'''hesi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some things''|| '''het'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''someone''<br>'''heti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some''|| '''heyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some kind of thing'' <br>'''heyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some kinds of thing''|| '''heglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some''<br>'''heglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some things''|| '''heglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some people'' |- valign=center ! Proximal |'''his'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this''<br>'''hisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these''|| '''hit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this person''<br>'''hiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these people''|| '''hiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this kind of thing'' <br>'''hiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these kinds of things''|| '''higlas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this much''<br>'''higlasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this many''|| '''higlati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this many people'' |- valign=center ! Immediate |'''hiis'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following thing''<br>'''hiisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following things''|| '''hiit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following person''<br>'''hiiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following people''|| '''hiiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following kind of thing'' <br>'''hiiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following kinds of things''|| '''hiiglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following amount''<br>'''hiiglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this following number of things''|| '''hiiglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following number of people'' |- valign=center ! Distal |'''hus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that''<br>'''husi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those''|| '''hut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that person''<br>'''huti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those people''|| '''huyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that kind of thing'' <br>'''huyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those kinds of things''|| '''huglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that much''<br>'''huglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that many''|| '''huglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that many people'' |- valign=center ! Intensive |'''huus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a thing''<br>'''huusi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such things''|| '''huut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a person''<br>'''huuti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such people''|| '''huuyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a kind of thing'' <br>'''huuyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such kinds of things''|| '''huuglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so much''<br>'''huuglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so many''|| '''huuglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so many people'' |- valign=center ! Negative |'''hyos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''nothing''<br>'''hyosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none of them''|| '''hyot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''nobody''<br>'''hyoti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none of them''|| '''hyoyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''no kind of thing'' <br>'''hyoyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''no kinds of things''|| '''hyoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none''<br>'''hyoglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none''|| '''hyoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none'' |- valign=center ! Distributive |'''hyas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''everything''<br>'''hyasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyat'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''everybody''<br>'''hyati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyayenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''every kind of'' <br>'''hyayenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all kinds of things''|| '''hyaglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of it''<br>'''hyaglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyaglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them'' |- valign=center ! Indeterminate |'''hyes'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''anything''<br>'''hyesi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any''|| '''hyet'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''anybody''<br>'''hyeti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of them''|| '''hyeyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any kind of'' <br>'''hyeyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''whatever things''|| '''hyeglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of it''<br>'''hyeglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of them''|| '''hyeglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''whoever'' |- valign=center ! Identical |'''hyis'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same thing''<br>'''hyisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same things''|| '''hyit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same person''<br>'''hyiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same people''|| '''hyiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same kind of'' <br>'''hyiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same kinds of things''|| '''hyiglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as much''<br>'''hyiglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as many''|| '''hyiglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as many people'' |- valign=center ! Non-identical |'''hyus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''something else''<br>'''hyusi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other things''|| '''hyut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''someone else''<br>'''hyuti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other people''|| '''hyuyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another kind'' <br>'''hyuyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other kinds''|| '''hyuglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another amount''<br>'''hyuglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another number of things''|| '''hyuglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another number of people'' |} : Concerning the above chart, note the following: ::* The interrogative determiners all begin with '''duho-''', which means '''say which''', and are technically imperatives. '''Duhom?''', for example, means '''Tell (me) the place...'''. The '''o'''-stem forms without the '''du-''' are used as relative clause heads, eg. '''At po <u>hom</u> et po.'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''I will go <u>where</u> you go.'' ::* Interrogatives usually come at the beginning of a sentence as in English, eg. '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* Determiners come first before any other epithets of a noun, eg. '''<u>Hia</u> aga jaga tam...'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''<u>This</u> big old house...''. ::* Person and Thing determiners can be made selective by inserting '''a''' before the final '''t''' or '''s''', eg. '''Duhot?''' means ''Who?'', while '''Duhoat?''' means ''Which one (of several persons)?'' ==== Deictic Determiner Adverbs ==== : All deictic determiner adverbs refer to a circumstance. :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Adverbs |- valign=top ! Circumstance--> !! Place<br>-m !! Time<br>-j !! Manner<br>-yen!! Degree<br>-gla !! Frequency<br>-xag !! Reason<br>-sav |- valign=center ! Interrogative | '''duhom?'''<br>''where?'' || '''duhoj?'''<br>''when?'' || '''duhoyen?'''<br>''how?'' || '''dugla?'''<br>''how (very)?'' || '''duxag?'''<br>''how often?''|| '''duavhos?'''<br>''why?'' |- valign=center ! Relative | '''hom'''<br>''where'' || '''hoj'''<br>''when'' || '''hoyen'''<br>''how'' || '''hogla'''<br>''how (very)'' || '''hoxag'''<br>''how often'' || '''avhos van'''<br>''because'' |- valign=center ! Exclamatory | || || '''hooyen'''<br>''and how!'' || '''hoogla'''<br>''how very...!'' || || |- valign=center ! Definite | '''ham'''<br>''the place'' || '''haj'''<br>''the time'' || '''hayen'''<br>''the manner'' || '''hagla'''<br>''just as'' || '''haxag'''<br>''as frequently''|| '''avhas'''<br>''the reason'' |- valign=center ! Indefinite | '''hem'''<br>''somewhere'' || '''hej'''<br>''sometime'' || '''heyen'''<br>''somehow'' || '''hegla'''<br>''somewhat'' || '''hexag'''<br>''somewhat often''||'''avhes'''<br>''for some reason'' |- valign=center ! Proximal | '''him'''<br>''here'' || '''hij'''<br>''now'' || '''hiyen'''<br>''this way'' || '''higla'''<br>''this'' || '''hixag'''<br>''this often''||'''avhis'''<br>''for this reason'' |- valign=center ! Immediate | '''hiim'''<br>''the following place'' || '''hiij'''<br>''the following time'' || '''hiiyen'''<br>''the following way'' || '''hiigla'''<br>''to the following degree'' || '''hiixag'''<br>''at the following frequency''||'''avhiis'''<br>''for the following reason'' |- valign=center ! Distal | '''hum'''<br>''there'' || '''huj'''<br>''then'' || '''huyen'''<br>''that way'' || '''hugla'''<br>''to that degree'' || '''huxag'''<br>''that often''|| '''avhus'''<br>''therefore'' |- valign=center ! Intensive | '''huum'''<br>''such a place'' || '''huuj'''<br>''at such a time'' || '''huuyen'''<br>''in such a way'' || '''huugla'''<br>''so (very)'' || '''huuxag'''<br>''so often''|| '''avhuus'''<br>''for such a reason'' |- valign=center ! Negative | '''hyom'''<br>''nowhere'' || '''hyoj'''<br>''never'' || '''hyoyen'''<br>''in no way'' || '''hyogla'''<br>''not at all'' || '''hyoxag'''<br>''not once''|| '''avhyos'''<br>''for no reason'' |- valign=center ! Distributive | '''hyam'''<br>''everywhere'' || '''hyaj'''<br>''always'' || '''hyayen'''<br>''in every way'' || '''hyagla'''<br>''fully'' || '''hyaxag'''<br>''always''||'''avhyas'''<br>''for every reason'' |- valign=center ! Indeterminate | '''hyem'''<br>''anywhere'' || '''hyej'''<br>''whenever'' || '''hyeyen'''<br>''however'' || '''hyegla'''<br>''however'' || '''hyexag'''<br>''however often'' || '''avhyes'''<br>''for whatever reason'' |- valign=center ! Indentical | '''hyim'''<br>''at the same place'' || '''hyij'''<br>''at the same time'' || '''hyiyen'''<br>''in the same way'' || '''hyigla'''<br>''as'' || '''hyixag'''<br>''as often''|| '''avhyis'''<br>''for the same reason'' |- valign=center ! Non-identical | '''hyum'''<br>''somewhere else'' || '''hyuj'''<br>''some other time'' || '''hyuyen'''<br>''otherwise'' || '''hyugla'''<br>''not as'' || '''hyuxag'''<br>''not as often''||'''avhyus'''<br>''for some other reason'' |} : Concerning the above chart, note the following: ::* The interrogative determiners all begin with '''duho-''', which means '''say which''', and are technically imperatives. '''Duhom?''', for example, means '''Tell (me) the place...'''. The '''o'''-stem forms without the '''du-''' are used as relative clause heads, eg. '''At po <u>hom</u> et po.'''....''I will go <u>where</u> you go.'' ::* Person determiners can be specified for gender. A determiner is made female by inserting a '''y''' after the ordinal, or male by inserting a '''w''' before the ordinal, eg. '''Huyti'''....''those females'' or '''Hwit'''....''this guy''. ::* Interrogatives usually come at the beginning of a sentence as in English, eg. '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* Determiners come first before any other epithets of a noun, eg. '''<u>Hia</u> aga jaga tam...'''....''<u>This</u> big old house...''. ::* Person and Thing determiners can be made selective by inserting '''a''' before the final '''t''' or '''s''', eg. '''Duot?''' means ''Who?'', while '''Duhoat?''' means ''Which one (of several persons)?'' :::* '''Duhoas?''''....''Which one? (things)'', '''Hias'''....''This one'', etc. :::* '''Duhoati?'''....''Which ones? (people)'', '''Huati'''....''Those'', etc. :::* '''Duhoyat?'''....''Which of us?'', '''Hyeyat'''....''Any of us'', etc. :::* '''Duhoyet?'''....''Which of you?'', '''Hyayet'''....''All of you'', etc. :::* '''Duhoyit?'''....''Which of them?'', '''Hyoyit'''....''None of them'', etc. ::* Also not included in the above chart is a related interrogative, which is a complementizer. :::* '''Duven...?'''.... (Question introducer) '''Is it true that...?, Say whether...''' ::::* '''<u>Duven</u> et se tadxwa?'''....''Are you married? (= <u>Say whether</u> you are married.)'' ::* The adverbs of degree in the above chart ('''duhogla?''', etc.) are interchangeable with adverbs ending in '''-nog'''....''degree'' ('''duhonog?'''....''to what degree?, how...?'', '''henog'''....''somewhat'') ::* Other deictic determiner adverbs of circumstance exist and are not on the above chart: :::* '''duhomep?'''....''which way?'' ::::* '''humep'''....''that way'' :::* '''duhobyun?'''....''to what end?'' ::::* '''hyobyun'''....''for no purpose'' :::* '''duhoizon?'''....''in which direction?'' ::::* ''''hyaizon'''....''in every direction'' :::* '''duhosauna'''....''what kind of'' ::::* '''hyesauna'''....''any kind of'' ==== Examples of Deictic Determiner Usage ==== ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ('''Duhos''' is pronounced '''du-HOS''') ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> se iyta twad?'''....''<u>Who</u> is her husband?'' ::* '''<u>Duhowat</u> se iyta twad?'''....''<u>Which one of the guys</u> is her husband?'' (selective) ::* '''<u>Duhoti</u> fe eker?'''....''<u>Who (pl.)</u> want to play?'' ::* '''<u>Hyas</u> se fia.'''....''<u>Everything</u> is fine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyat</u> tre et.'''....''<u>Everyone</u> knows you.'' ::* '''<u>Hyot</u> tre at.'''....''<u>Nobody</u> knows me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyati</u> ekeye fi.'''....''<u>All of them</u> are playing well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoti</u> ekeye fi.'''....''<u>None of them</u> are playing well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> yafe eker.'''....''<u>Anyone</u> can play.'' ::* '''<u>Hyes</u> yafwe.'''....''<u>Anything</u> is possible.'' ::* '''At fe <u>hyuyenat</u> be ata ekutyan.'''....''I want <u>someone else</u> on my team.'' ::* '''<u>Huuyenati</u> fyuxe yata oj.'''....''<u>Such people</u> harm our future.'' ::* '''Et yefe tepier <u>hiisi</u>.'''....''You must bear in mind <u>the following things</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et xa hus.'''.....''<u>How</u> did you do that?'' (pronounced '''du-ho-YEN''') ::* '''<u>Duavhos</u> iyt pia <u>huugla</u> jwa?'''....''<u>Why</u> did she leave <u>so</u> early?'' ::* '''<u>Hwita</u> tam se ga aga.'''....''<u>This guy's</u> house is bigger.'' ::* '''At voy ayse ha dyuni <u>bi huyti</u>.'''....''I don't have <u>those women's</u> names.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoa</u> tam se etas?'''....''<u>Which</u> house is yours?'' ::* '''<u>Huua</u> tej et ayse!'''....''<u>What a</u> life you have!'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyena</u> dyezuni ifxe et?'''....''<u>What kind of</u> movies do you like?'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> tef okwa?'''....''<u>Whose</u> hat was lost?'' ::* '''<u>Hota</u> tef okwa bese otwas.'''....''<u>Whose</u> hat was lost remains a mystery.'' ::* '''<u>Ha</u> tob ta yata dyuni.'''....''<u>The</u> man knew our names.'' ::* '''<u>Hoyena</u> dini at ife, et ufe.'''....''<u>The kind of</u> stories I love, you hate.'' ::* '''<u>Hea</u> mepi gawdyunxwo.'''....''<u>Certain</u> streets will be renamed.'' ::* '''<u>Heyena</u> fukyes uxaye purilp nyaunx.'''....''<u>Some kind of</u> accident has caused a traffic jam.'' ::* '''<u>Heta</u> abtaf kaxwa be ha zatem.'''.....''<u>Someone's</u> coat was found in the foyer.'' ::* '''<u>Hia</u> dyes se ata gwafwas.'''....''<u>This</u> book is my favorite.'' ::* '''<u>Hiia</u> duni se ofwa.'''....''<u>The following</u> words are prohibited.'' ::* '''<u>Hiiyena</u> axlyen voy afwu.'''....''<u>The following sort of</u> behavior would not be allowed.'' ::* '''<u>Hiyena</u> axlyen voy vayafwo.'''....''<u>This type of</u> behavior will not be tolerated.'' ::* '''<u>Hita</u> tim so yolza.'''....''<u>This person's</u> room will be blue.'' ::* '''<u>Hua</u> mas efwe gawvozilbwer.'''....''<u>That</u> wall needs to be repainted.'' ::* '''<u>Huua</u> dini yufxe tudi.'''....''<u>Such</u> stories scare children.'' ::* '''<u>Huyena</u> duni voy yeyfwe yixwer za at.'''....''<u>Such</u> words should not be used in front of me.'' ::* '''<u>Hwuta</u> tam magseye.'''....''<u>That guy's</u> house is on fire.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoa</u> din se ga kyitesa.'''....''<u>No</u> story is more important.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoyena</u> tes tesiyafwe.'''....''<u>No such</u> meaning can be inferred.'' ::* '''<u>Hyota</u> jatexdras sa ga fia.'''....''<u>Nobody's</u> plan is better.'' ::* '''<u>Hyos</u> oboxe huyt.'''....''<u>Nothing</u> bothers that gal.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> mepi izpe Roma.'''....''<u>All</u> roads lead to Rome.'' ::* '''<u>Hya ha</u> mepi se ebwa.'''....''<u>All the</u> roads are blocked.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> twob yefe xer ita gon.'''....''<u>Every</u> man must do his part.'' ::* '''<u>Hyayena</u> telami ese be hia domep.'''....''<u>All manner of</u> restaurants exist on this street.'' ::* '''<u>Hyata</u> tej se uka bi yaobi.'''....''<u>Everyone's</u> life is full of ups and downs.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaewa</u> domi agsaye.'''....''<u>Both</u> cities have grown.'' ::* '''<u>Hyea</u> voz so fia.'''....''<u>Any</u> color will be fine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeyena</u> til se aysyafwa.'''....''<u>Any kind of</u> drink is available.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeta</u> ved se ge ifa vyel atas.'''....''<u>Anyone's</u> guess is as good as mine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyea</u> tim et fe et yafe ayser.'''....''<u>Whatever</u> room you want, you can have.'' ::* '''<u>Hyia</u>/(Ha gea) fukyesi kyese glaxag.'''....''<u>The same</u> accidents occur frequently.'' ::* '''<u>Hyiyena</u>/(Ha geyena) dyezuni teaxuwa zajub.'''....''<u>The same kind of</u> films were shown yesterday.'' ::* '''<u>Hyita</u>/(Ha geta) dyun yixwa gajod.'''....''<u>The same person's</u> name was used again.'' ::* '''<u>Hyua</u> dyezun sa ga ifuyea.'''....''<u>The other</u> movie was more entertaining.'' ::* '''<u>Hyuyena</u>/(Ogeyena) som teasu ga fia.'''....''<u>Another kind of</u> furniture would look better.'' ::* '''<u>Hyuta</u>/(ogeta) texyen se ge fyia.'''....''<u>Someone else's</u> opinion is equally valid.'' ::* '''Ha dyuni <u>bi hiyti</u> voy dodrawe.'''....''<u>These women's</u> names have not been made public.'' ::* '''Ha dyuni <u>bi hwiiti</u> voy dodrowe.'''....''<u>The following males'</u> names will not be publicized.'' ::* '''<u>Hijaga</u> tobweti voy afwo him.'''....''Boys <u>of this age</u> will not be allowed here.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> et tambese?'''....''<u>Where</u> do you live?'' ::* '''At tambese <u>hum</u>.'''....''I live <u>there</u>.'' ::* '''Et tambese <u>hom</u> ha mep uje.'''....''You live <u>where</u> the road ends.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> yet peye?'''....''<u>Where</u> are you people going?'' ::* '''Et yafe per <u>hyem</u> et fu.'''....''You can go <u>anywhere</u> you would like.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> et byise?'''....''<u>Where</u> are you from?'' (Lit: ''Where do you originate?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoj</u> et taja?'''....''<u>When</u> were you born?'' ::* '''At voy tajaya <u>huj</u>.'''....''I had not been born <u>then</u>.'' ::* '''Et yeyfe duder <u>hiiyen</u>.'''....''You should respond <u>in the following way</u>.'' ::* '''Ot voy yefe daler <u>huuyen</u>.'''....''One must not talk <u>in such a manner</u>.'' ::* '''Et pia <u>hesav</u>.'''....''He left <u>for some reason</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et iyfe hia vifil?'''....''<u>How</u> do like this wine?'' ::* '''Voy se fia axler <u>hiyen</u>.'''....''It is not good to act <u>this way</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duavhos</u> et tadia <u>huugla</u> jwa?'''....''<u>Why</u> did you marry <u>so</u> late?'' ::* '''Ha twob pia <u>avhyos</u>.'''....''The man left <u>for no reason</u>.'' ::* '''Hwat pia <u>avhos van</u> it efa per hem.'''....''The guy left <u>because</u> he needed to go somewhere.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeta</u> texyen so fia.'''....''<u>Anyone</u>'s opinion will be fine.'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> dyes se his?'''....''Whose book is this?'' ::* '''<u>Bi hoti</u> se hia dyesi?'''....''Whose are these books?'' ::* '''<u>Hyata</u> tili yebexe yom.'''....''<u>Everyone's</u> drinks contain ice.'' ::* '''Et se gaj <u>geyenat</u>( ~ <u>hyiyenat</u>).'''....''You are still <u>the same kind of person</u>.'' : The semantic reverser '''o-''' can be prefixed to some of the above deictic determiners: :: '''<u>Ohyat</u> tiste Platon.'''....''<u>Not everyone</u> understands Plato.'' :: '''<u>Ohut!</u>'''....''Not that person!'' :: '''At iyfe gwa apovili, oy <u>ohuas</u>!'''....''I like most beers, but <u>not that one</u>!'' : If the definite article or any other deictic determiner is omitted before a noun, then it has the effect of the English indefinite article ''a / an'' with a singular noun or ''some'' with a plural noun. For example: ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ha tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>a glass</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ha tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>(some) glasses</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>awa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>one glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha awa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the one glass</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>two glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the two glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>hyaewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>both glasses</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>owa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>no/zero glasses (=not a single glass)</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ea tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>another/a second glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ea tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the second glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ea tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>second glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ea tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the second glasses</u> of wine.'' : If an indefinite article sense is needed for clarity, the words '''awa''' (''one'') or '''hea''' (''some, a certain'') can be used, eg.: ::* '''At igteata <u>awa</u> tob yiztyoper.'''....''I glimpsed <u>a</u> man walk by.'' ::* '''Wit zoyupo <u>hea</u> juab.'''....''He will come back on <u>a / a certain / some</u> Monday.'' ==== Selective vs. Non-Selective Forms ==== : The deictic interrogative determiner pronoun '''duhot?''' means ''who(m)'' and contrasts with its '''''selective''''' counterpart '''duhoat?''', which means ''which one?''. All the selective determiners refer to one or more things or persons from a selectable pool of things or persons. : The following sentences illustrate the use of the above determiner pronouns: ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> aka zajuba ek?'''....''<u>Who</u> won yesterday's game?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoat</u> bi ha akuti sa ha gwa fiat?'''....''<u>Which one</u> of the winners was the best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> tam se hus?'''....''<u>Whose</u> house is that?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotas</u> se hus?'''....''<u>Whose</u> is that?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotia</u> deuzi et gaife?'''....''<u>Whose</u> songs do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotias</u> et gaife?'''....''<u>Whose</u> do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* '''<u>Duhosi</u> se eta gaifuni?'''....''<u>What</u> are your preferences?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoa</u> deuzi se eta gwa fiasi?'''....''<u>Which</u> songs are your best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoasi</u> se eta gwa fiasi?'''....''<u>Which ones</u> are your best?'' ::* '''Bi hia deuzuti, <u>hoat</u> et gaife?'''....''Of these vocalists, <u>which one</u> do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Hiiti</u> yaneko hijub.'''....''<u>The following people</u> will compete today.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoati</u> se gwa fia?'''....''<u>Which ones</u> are best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoti</u> et teexe gwa jodi?'''....''<u>Who (all)</u> do you listen to the most often?'' ::* '''<u>Hoat</u> at teexe gwaxag draye ejna deuz.'''....''<u>The one</u> I listen to the most has written a new song.'' ::* '''Ejna deuz? At voy teste <u>hoas</u> et tede.'''....''New song? I don't understand <u>which one</u> you mean.'' ::* '''<u>Hias</u>.'''....''<u>This one</u>.'' ::* '''Vo. <u>Huasi</u> se ga fia.'''....''No. <u>Those</u> are better.'' ::* '''<u>His</u> se jub av ivxelen.'''....''<u>This</u> is a day for celebration.'' ::* '''Va. <u>Hia</u> jub. At tese <u>hi</u>jub.'''....''Yes. <u>This</u> day. I mean <u>To-</u>day.'' ::* '''<u>Husi</u> sa <u>ha</u> jubi, ata dat!'''....''<u>Those</u> were <u>the</u> days, my friend!'' ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> aka ha igpek?'''....''<u>Who</u> won the race?'' ::* '''<u>Hyas</u> uja fi.'''....''<u>Everything</u> ended well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyasi</u> uje.'''....''<u>All things</u> come to an end.'' ::* '''<u>Hyayenasi</u> vey kyesu.'''....''<u>All sorts of things</u> might happen.'' ::* '''<u>Hyos</u> yokxa at.'''....''<u>Nothing</u> surprised me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyot</u> ta hot ako.'''....''<u>Nobody</u> knew who would win.'' ::* '''<u>Hoayti</u> fu pier yefe.'''....''<u>Those females</u> who would like to leave may.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> yefe eker hia ifek.'''....''<u>Anyone</u> can play this game.'' ::* '''<u>Huyenasi</u> voy afwo.'''....''<u>Such things</u> will not be permitted.'' ::* '''<u>Hua twob</u> voy taxe hia toyb.'''....''<u>That</u> man does not remember this woman.'' ::* '''<u>Hwuti</u> yanyexe fi.'''....''<u>Those guys</u> work well together.'' ::* '''<u>Huuyti</u> hyaj yubixe tepzex.'''....''<u>Such females</u> always attract attention.'' ::* '''At jay teataye <u>hiyenasi</u>.'''....''I've seen <u>such things</u> before.'' ::* '''<u>Huyenwat</u> voy vabiwu.'''....''<u>A guy like that</u> would not be accepted.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyenasi</u> weti iyfe xer je ha maj.'''....''<u>What kinds of things</u> do you guys like to do during the day?'' === Numerical Deictic Determiners === : Sometimes, a deictic determiner specifies numerical information. This chart shows those forms: :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Number-incorporating Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! Adjective !! Inanimate Pronoun !! Animate Pronoun !! Pronominal Determiner !! Possessive Pronoun |- | '''hawa'''<sup>1</sup><br> ''the only'' || '''hawas'''<br>''the only thing''<br>'''hawasi'''<br>''the only things'' || '''hawat'''<br>''the only one (person)''<br>'''hawati'''<br>''the only ones''|| '''hawata'''<br>''the only person&apos;s'' || '''hawatas'''<br>''the only one&apos;s''<br>'''hawatasi'''<br>''the only one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyawa'''*<br> ''each'' || '''hyawas'''<br>''each one'' || '''hyawat'''<br>''each person''|| '''hyawata'''<br>''each person&apos;s'' || '''hyawatas'''<br>''each one&apos;s''<br>'''hyawatasi'''<br>''each one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyaewa'''<br>''both'' || '''hyaewasi'''<br>''both (<small>things</small>)'' || '''hyaewati'''<br>''both (<small>people</small>)''|| '''bi hyaewati'''<br>''both person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyaewati'''<br>''both person&apos;s''<br>'''hasi bi hyaewati'''<br>''both persone&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyaiwa'''<br>''all three'' || '''hyaiwasi'''<br>''all three (<small>things</small>)'' || '''hyaiwati'''<br>''all three (<small>people</small>)''|| '''hyaiwata'''<br>''all three person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyaiwati'''<br>''all three person&apos;s''<br>'''hasi bi hyaiwati'''<br>''all three person&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''ohyawa'''<br>''not every'' || '''ohyawas'''<br>''not everything'' || '''ohyawat'''<br>''not everyone''|| '''ohyawata'''<br>''not every person&apos;s'' || '''ohyawatas'''<br>''not everyone&apos;s''<br>'''ohyawatasi'''<br>''not everyone&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyoawa'''<br>''not a single'' || '''hyoawas'''<br>''not a single thing'' || '''hyoawat'''<br>''not a single person''|| '''hyowata'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s'' || '''hyowatas'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s''<br>'''hyowatasi'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyeawa'''<br>''either'' || '''hyeawas'''<br>''either one'' || '''hyeawat'''<br>''either one (<small>person</small>)''|| '''hyeawata'''<br>''either one&apos;s'' || '''hyeawatas'''<br>''either one&apos;s''<br>'''hyeawatasi'''<br>''either one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyeewa'''<br>''any two'' || '''hyeewasi'''<br>''any two things'' || '''hyeewati'''<br>''any two people''|| '''bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two persons&apos;''<br>'''hasi bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two persons&apos; (things)'' |- | '''hyeowa'''<br>''neither'' || '''hyeowas'''<br>''neither one'' || '''hyeowat'''<br>''neither person''|| '''hyeawata'''<br>''neither person&apos;s'' || '''hyeowatas'''<br>''neither one&apos;s''<br>'''hyeowatasi'''<br>''neither one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyuawa'''<br>''another'' || '''hyuawas'''<br>''another one'' || '''hyuawat'''<br>''another''|| '''hyuawata'''<br>''another&apos;s'' || '''hyuawatas'''<br>''another&apos;s''<br>'''hyuawatasi'''<br>''another&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyuowa'''<br>''no other'' || '''hyuowas'''<br>''nothing else'' || '''hyuowat'''<br>''nobody else''|| '''hyuowata'''<br>''no other&apos;s'' || '''hyuowatas'''<br>''no other&apos;s''<br>'''hyuowatasi'''<br>''no other&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''gawa'''<sup>2</sup><br>''another'' || '''gawas'''<br>''another one'' || '''gawat'''<br>''another (person)''|| '''gawata'''<br>''another&apos;s'' || '''gawatas'''<br>''another&apos;s''<br>'''gawatasi'''<br>''another&apos;s (things)'' |} <small> :: Note 1) '''Hawa''' and '''hyawa''' are short for '''haawa''' and '''hyaawa''', respectively. :: Note 2) '''Gawa''' is short for '''ga awa''', ''yet one''. </small> ==== Notes on Numerical Deictic Determiners ==== : Examples using the above number-incorporating deictic determiners: ::* '''<u>Ohyawat</u> se iva bay eta vaod.'''....''<u>Not everyone</u> is happy with your decision.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaewasi</u> yafwe uxler yata efoni.'''....''<u>Both (things)</u> can serve our needs.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeawa</u> tim ivlaxo at.'''....''<u>Either</u> room will satisfy me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowas</u> oivlaxo at.'''....''<u>Neither one</u> will dissatisfy me.'' : Note: ::* '''hyua''' means ''another (an alternative)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hyua</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>another (a different)</u> drink.'' ::* '''hyuawa''' means ''another (an additional)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hyuawa</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>another (an additional)</u> drink.'' ::* '''ha hyua''' means ''the other (the alternative)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>ha hyua</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>the other</u> drink.'' : Similarly, '''hya''' means ''every, all'', while '''hyawa''' means ''each'', and '''hyaha'''....''all the'', ex: ::* '''<u>Hya</u> dom ayse tebixea suni teaxer.'''....''<u>Every</u> city has interesting things to see.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> domi ayse tebixusi.'''....''<u>All</u> cities have things of interest.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaha</u> domi ayse tebixusi.'''....''<u>All the</u> cities have things of interest.'' ::* '''<u>Hyawa</u> dom ayse tebixun.'''....''<u>Each</u> city has something of interest.'' : Also, '''ha''' means ''the'', while '''hawa''' means ''the only'', eg.: ::* '''<u>Ha</u> twob hu at gwa ife se et.'''....''<u>The</u> man I most love is you.'' ::* '''<u>Hawa</u> toyb nazea ata tepzex se et.'''....''<u>The only</u> woman worth my attention is you.'' : By appending '''y''' to '''hawa''', we get the adverb '''haway'''....''only, solely'', eg; ::* '''<u>Haway</u> et nize ata tepzex.'''....''<u>Only</u> you deserve my attention.''. : The singular person pronouns in the above chart can be converted into pronominal determiners by adding the adjective suffix '''a''', eg.: ::* '''<u>Hyawata</u> tej se ge glatesa vyel hyutas.'''....''<u>Each one's</u> life is as important as another's.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowata</u> dyun se vyama.'''....''<u>Neither person's</u> name is real.'' : However, the plural person pronouns in the above chart use the preposition '''bi''' (''of'') to form possessives, eg.: ::* '''Ha teji <u>bi hyaiwati</u> se kyebukuwa.'''....''The lives <u>of all three</u> are in danger.'' : The above singular pronominal determiners can, in turn, be converted into inanimate pronouns with the suffix '''-s'''. ::* '''<u>Hyawatas</u> se glatesa.'''....''<u>Each one's</u> is important.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowatas</u> se vyama.'''....''<u>Neither's</u> is real.'' : The plural pronominal determiners can be nominalized with the use of '''bi''', eg: ::* '''<u>Hyaiwasi</u> <u>bi huti</u> se kyebukuwa.'''....''<u>All three</u> <u>of theirs'</u> are in danger.'' : Correlative Number-incorporating Deictic Determiners are handled as follows: ::* '''Hyeawa A ey B'''....''either A or B'' ::* '''Hyeowa A oy B'''....''neither A nor B'' ::* '''Hyaewa A ay B'''....''both A and B'' ::* '''Hawa A, voy B'''....''only A, not B'' : The different, somewhat confusing, meanings of ''how'' are illustrated here: ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> wit xa hus?'''....''<u>How</u> did he do that?''.... (Equivalent to '''Be duha byen...?'''....''In what way...?'') (ADVERB OF MANNER) ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et xeye?'''....''<u>How</u> are you doing?''.... (This is the normal way of saying ''How are you?'' or ''How do you do?'' (ADVERB OF MANNER) ::* '''<u>Duhoyena</u> sa ha dyezun?'''....'' <u>How</u> was the film?''.... (''How'' here is an ADJECTIVE OF KIND, and thus ends in '''-a'''.) ::* '''<u>Duhonog (= Duhogla)</u> aga it se?'''....''<u>How</u> big is he?''.... (ADVERB OF DEGREE) ::* '''<u>Huunog (= Huugla)</u> iyfla et se!'''....''<u>How</u> nice you are!''.... (ADVERB OF EMPHATIC DEGREE) : The conjunction ''as'' is expressed most often using relative pro-adverbs of manner: ::* '''Xu <u>hoyen</u> at de.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I say.'' = (in) the way that... ::* '''Xu <u>hyiyen</u>''' (~ '''geyen''') '''at xe.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I do. ( = (in) the same way that...)'' ::* '''Xu <u>hiiyen</u>:'''....''Do <u>as follows</u>. ( = (in) this hereby manner...)'' : However, the preposition/conjunction '''gel''' (''like, as'') can be substituted: ::* '''Xu <u>gel</u> at de.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I say.'' : Many of the determiner adverbs in the above chart can be used in relative clauses, eg: ::* '''At teato et <u>hoj</u> et puo him.'''....''I will see you <u>when</u> you get here.'' ::* '''It xa has <u>avhos van</u> tosa yefa.'''....''He did it <u>because (for the reason that)</u> he felt compelled.'' ::* '''<u>Hyem</u> et po, et so ga iva.'''....''<u>Wherever</u> you go, you'll be happier.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> te ha did, yabu eta tuyab.'''....''<u>Whoever</u> knows the answer, raise your hand.'' ::* '''At te <u>hoyen</u> et xa is.'''....''I know <u>how</u> you did it.'' : See more about this in the section on [[Mirad_Grammar/Syntax#Relative_Clauses|relative clauses under Syntax]]. === Pronominal Deictic Determiners === : Some words in Mirad incorporate deictic prefixes with pronouns and pronominal adjectives, as shown in the following chart: {{small/top}} :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size;smaller;" |+ Pronominal Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! colspan=3 | Pronoun |- ! 1st Person Plural !! 2nd Person Plural !! 3rd Person Plural |- | '''duhoyat'''<br>''which of us'' || '''duhoyet'''<br>''which of you'' || '''duhoyit'''<br>''which of them'' |- | '''heyat'''<br>''some of us'' || '''heyet'''<br>''some of you'' || '''heyit'''<br>''which of them'' |- | '''hyayat'''<br>''each of us'' || '''hyayet'''<br>''each of you'' || '''hyayit'''<br>''each of them'' |- | '''hyeyat'''<br>''any of us'' || '''hyeyet'''<br>''any of you'' || '''hyeyit'''<br>''any of them'' |- | '''hyoyat'''<br>''none of us'' || '''hyoyet'''<br>''none of you'' || '''hyoyit'''<br>''none of them'' |- ! colspan=3 | Pronominal Adjective |- ! 1st Person (Plural) !! 2nd Person (Plural) !! 3rd Person (Plural) |- | '''duhoyata'''<br>''which of our'' || '''duhoyet'''<br>''which of your'' || '''duhoyita'''<br>''which of their'' |- | '''heyata'''<br>''some of our'' || '''heyeta'''<br>''some of your'' || '''heyita'''<br>''which of their'' |- | '''hyayata'''<br>''each of our'' || '''hyayeta'''<br>''each of your'' || '''hyayita'''<br>''each of their'' |- | '''hyeyata'''<br>''any of our'' || '''hyeyeta'''<br>''any of your'' || '''hyeyita'''<br>''any of their'' |- ! colspan=3 | Singular/(Plural) Possessive Pronoun |- ! 1st Person (Plural) !! 2nd Person (Plural) !! 3rd Person (Plural) |- | '''duhoyatas(i)'''<br>''which of ours'' || '''duhoyetas(i)'''<br>''which of yours'' || '''duhoyitas(i)'''<br>''which of theirs'' |- | '''heyatas(i)'''<br>''some of ours'' || '''heyetas(i)'''<br>''some of yours'' || '''heyitas(i)'''<br>''which of theirs'' |- | '''hyayatas(i)'''<br>''each of ours'' || '''hyayetas(i)'''<br>''each of yours'' || '''hyayitas(i)'''<br>''each of theirs'' |- | '''hyeyatas(i)'''<br>''any of ours'' || '''hyeyetas(i)'''<br>''any of yours'' || '''hyeyitas(i)'''<br>''any of theirs'' |- | '''hyoyatas(i)'''<br>''none of ours'' || '''hyoyetas(i)'''<br>''none of yours'' || '''hyoyitas(i)'''<br>''none of theirs'' |} {{small/end}} : The above possessive pronouns refer to things. If you replace the final '''-s''' or '''-si''', to '''-t''' or '''-ti''', then they become animate and refer to people, eg.: ::* '''Ese ewa tudi him. Duhoyitas se his?'''....''There are two children here. Which one of theirs is this?'' : All of the forms in the above chart can also be expressed as separate words, eg.: ::* '''Duhoyet?'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Duhoat bi yet?'''....''Which one of you?'' ::* '''Hyayat'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaglati bi yet'''....''All of us.'' ::* '''Hyoyatasi'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyogla yatasi'''....''All of ours (things)'' Note: ::* '''Awayat'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Awat bi yat'''....''one of us'' ::* '''Hyaewayet'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaewat bi yet'''....''both of you'' ::* '''Hyaiwayit'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaiwat bi yit'''....''all three of them'' === Quantitative Deictic Determiners === : The deictic prefixes can be combined with '''gla''' to form quantitative expressions acting as adverbial or adjectival determiners, and substantives (pronouns referring to things or people): {{small/top}} :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size;smaller;" |+ Quantitative Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! !! Adverbial / Adjectival<br>Determiner !! Inanimate Singular<br>Pronoun !! Inanimate Plural <br>Pronoun !! Animate Plural<br>Pronoun |- !row=1|Interrogative | '''duhogla?'''<br>''how?/how much?/how many?'' || '''duhoglas?'''<br>''how much?'' || '''duhoglasi?'''<br>''how many'' || '''duhoglati?'''<br>''how many (people)?'' |- !row=1|Relative | '''hogla'''<br>''as many/much'' || '''hoglas'''<br>''how much'' || '''duhoglasi'''<br>''how many'' || '''duhoglati'''<br>''how many (as)'' |- !row=1|Definite | '''hagla'''<br>''how/as much/as many'' || '''haglas'''<br>''as much'' || '''haglasi'''<br>''as many'' || '''haglati'''<br>''as many (people)'' |- !row=1|Indefinite | '''hegla'''<br>''somewhat/some/some'' || '''heglas'''<br>''some'' || '''heglasi'''<br>''some'' || '''heglati'''<br>''some (people)'' |- !row=1|Proximal | '''higla'''<br>''this/this much/this many'' || '''higlas'''<br>''this much'' || '''higlasi'''<br>''this many'' || '''higlati'''<br>''this many (people)'' |- !row=1|Distal | '''hugla'''<br>''that/that much/that many'' || '''huglas'''<br>''that much'' || '''huglasi'''<br>''that many'' || '''huglati'''<br>''that many (people)'' |- !row=1|Intensive | '''huugla'''<br>''so very, so much, so many'' || '''huuglas'''<br>''so much'' || '''huuglasi'''<br>''so many'' || '''huuglati'''<br>''so many (people)'' |- !row=1|Negative | '''hyogla'''<br>''none, not very'' || '''hyoglas'''<br>''none of it'' || '''hyoglasi'''<br>''none of them '' || '''hyoglati'''<br>''none'' |- !row=1|Distributive | '''hyagla'''<br>''totally/all/all'' || '''hyaglas'''<br>''all of it'' || '''hyaglasi'''<br>''all of them'' || '''hyaglati'''<br>''all'' |- !row=1|Indeterminate | '''hyegla'''<br>''however/any/any'' || '''hyeglas'''<br>''any of it'' || '''hyeglasi'''<br>''any of them'' || '''hyeglati'''<br>''any number of them'' |- !row=1|Identical | '''hyigla'''<br>''as/as much/as many, equally'' || '''hyiglas'''<br>''the same amount'' || '''hyiglasi'''<br>''the same number'' || '''hyiglati'''<br>''as many (people)'' |- !row=1|Non-identical | '''hyugla'''<br>''not as much/not as much/not as many'' || '''hyuglas'''<br>''a different amount'' || '''hyuglasi'''<br>''a different number of things'' || '''hyuglati'''<br>''a different number of people'' |} {{Small/end}} : Here are some examples showing how these quantitative determiners are used: ::* '''Et deuze <u>huugla</u> fi.'''....''You sing <u>so</u> well.'' ::* '''At se <u>hegla</u> booka.'''....''I am <u>somewhat</u> tired.'' ::* '''<u>Duhogla</u> pati et teata hijub?'''....''<u>How many</u> birds did you see today?'' ::* '''At teata vyavay <u>hugla</u> tami.'''....''I saw exactly <u>that many</u> houses.'' ::* '''Iyt fe <u>hyiglas</u> vyel et.'''....''She wants <u>the same amount</u> as you.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoglati</u> yantexe yet?'''....''<u>How many (people)</u> agree with you?'' ::* '''<u>Hyoglati</u> yantexe.'''....''<u>None</u> agree.'' ::* '''Yit fu <u>heglasi</u>.'''....''They would like <u>some (of them)</u>.'' ::* '''Et yafe bier <u>hyeglasi</u> et fe.'''....''You can take <u>however many</u> you want.'' ::* '''Besu bay at <u>hogla</u> job et fe.'''....''Stay <u>as</u> long with me as you want.'' ::* '''At se <u>huugla</u> booka.'''....''I am <u>so</u> tired.'' : NOTE: The following determiners are synonymous and interchangeable: ::* '''hegla''' = '''gle''' = '''henog''' (''somewhat, to some degree'') ::* '''hyigla''' = '''ge''' = '''hyinog''' (''as, equally, to the same degree'') : The determiner ''huugla'' can be used as an exclamatory adverb, eg.: ::* '''<u>Huugla</u> et agsaye!'''....''<u>How</u> you have grown!'' ::* '''Hua twob jagsaye <u>huugla</u>!'''....''That man has aged <u>so much</u>!'' ::* '''Hia jotul se <u>huugla</u> fiteluza!'''....''This dessert is <u>sooo</u> delicious!'' == Pronominal Determiners == : Pronominal Determiners are what are more often called '''''possessive adjectives''''' such as ''my'' or ''your'' and are discussed in a subsection of [[Mirad Grammar/Pronouns#Pronominal Determiners|Pronouns]]. == Quantitative Determiners == : '''''Quantitative determiners''''' act in one of several ways, they: ::* specify mass, uncountable, singular nouns for relative AMOUNT, eg. ''much happiness, less work'' ::* specify countable nouns for relative NUMBER, eg. ''one apple, two birds, many places'' ::* specify adverbs, adjectives, and verbs for relative DEGREE, eg. ''how poorly, very good, eat too much''. : From these, pronominalized quantitative determiners for PERSONS and THINGS can be derived. ::* Inanimate singular pronouns are formed by adding '''s''' for AN AMOUNT OF A THING ::* Inanimate plural pronouns are formed by adding '''si''' for A NUMBER OF THINGS ::* Animate plural pronouns are formed by adding '''ti''' for A NUMBER OF PERSONS. : The following table presents most of these word forms (Note that the determiners are in a plus (+), equal (=), or minus (-) row.): {| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; margin-left:1.6em; font-size:smaller;" |+ Quantitative Determiners |- !colspan=2|Adverb / Adjective !! Singular Pronoun !!colspan=2| Plural Pronoun |- !colspan=2|Degree/Amount/Number !! Amount !! Number of Things !! Number of People |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''ga'''....''more'' || '''gas'''....''more (stuff)'' || '''gasi'''....''many (things)'' || '''gati'''....''many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''ge'''....''as, as much, as many'' || '''ges'''....''as much (stuff)'' || '''gesi'''....''as many (things)'' || '''geti'''....''as many people'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''go'''....''less, fewer'' || '''gos'''....''less (stuff)'' || '''gosi'''....''fewer (things)'' || '''goti'''....''fewer (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gla'''....''very, much, many''<br>'''glay'''....''so, so much, so many''<br>'''glaa'''....''several'' || '''glas'''....''much (stuff)''<br>'''glays'''....''so much stuff'') || '''glasi'''....''many (things)''<br>'''glaysi'''....''so many (things)''<br>'''glaasi'''....''several things''|| '''glati'''....''many (people)''<br>'''glayti'''....''so many (people)''<br>'''glaati'''....''several people'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gle'''....''rather, quite a lot, quite a few'' || '''gles'''....''quite a lot (of stuff)'' || '''glesi'''....''quite a lot (of things)'' || '''gleti'''....''quite a few (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''glo'''....''slightly, a little, few'' || '''glos'''....''a little bit'' || '''glosi'''....''a few (things)'' || '''gloti'''....''few (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gra'''....''too, too much, too many'' || '''gras'''....''too much (stuff)'' || '''grasi'''....''too many (things)'' || '''grati'''....''too many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gre'''....''enough'' || '''gres'''....''enough (stuff)'' || '''gresi'''....''enough (things)'' || '''greti'''....''enough (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''gro'''....''insufficiently, too little, too few'' || '''gros'''....''too little'' || '''grosi'''....''too few'' || '''groti'''....''too few (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gwa'''....''most'' || '''gwas'''....''the most (stuff)'' || '''gwasi'''....''the most (things)'' || '''gwati'''....''most people'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gwe'''....''just so (much/many)'' || '''gwes'''....''just so much'' || '''gwesi'''....''just so many'' || '''gweti'''....''just so many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''gwo'''....''least'' || '''gwos'''....''the least (stuff)'' || '''gwosi'''....''the least (number of)'' || '''gwoti'''....''the least number (of people)'' |} : Examples Using Graded Quantitative Determiners :: Adverbs of degree modifying an adjective: :::* '''At se <u>gla</u> iva.'''....''I am <u>very</u> happy.'' :::* '''Et sa <u>gra</u> uga.'''....''You were <u>too</u> slow.'' :: Adverbs of Degree modifying another adverb: :::* '''Twobi dale <u>ge</u> igay vyel toybi.'''....''Men talk <u>as</u> fast as women.'' :::* '''Yat yexe <u>ga igay</u> vyel yet.'''....''We work faster (= <u>more quickly</u>) than you.'' :: Adjectives quantifying a singular mass noun: :::* '''<u>Ga</u> nas efwo.'''....''<u>More</u> money will be needed.'' :::* '''<u>Gra</u> nas noxwa.'''....''<u>Too much</u> money was spent.'' :: Adjectives quantifying a plural countable noun (= things or people): :::* '''At ayse <u>gro</u> sari.'''....''I've got <u>too few</u> tools.'' :::* '''<u>Gla</u> tami osexwa.'''....''<u>Many</u> houses were destroyed.'' :::* '''Yat efe <u>gla ga</u> valkdibuti.'''....''We need <u>many more</u> policemen.'' :: Pronouns referring to a mass amount of something (= stuff): :::* '''<u>Gas</u> ilokeye.'''....''<u>More (stuff)</u> is leaking.'' :::* '''Et dileye <u>gras</u>.'''....''You are asking for <u>too much (stuff)</u>.'' :::* '''Yat kexo <u>gwas</u>.'''....''We will seek <u>as much (stuff) as possible</u>.'' :::* '''At iba <u>gwes</u>.'''....''I received <u>just the right amount.</u>'' :: Pronouns referring to a countable number of things: :::* '''Hisi se fia oy yat fe <u>gasi</u>.'''....''These (items) are good but we want <u>more (items)</u>.'' :::* '''At teate drilari oy <u>grosi</u>.'''....''I see pens, but <u>too few</u>.'' :: Pronouns referring to a countable number of people: :::* '''<u>Grati</u> xaye vyoki be hia yexem.'''....''<u>Too many (people)</u> have made mistakes at this work site.'' :::* '''<u>Glati</u> dyunwe oy <u>gloti</u> kebiwe.'''....''<u>Many</u> are called but <u>few</u> are chosen.'' == Numerical Determiners == : This category of determiners, which includes cardinal, ordinal and other number words like ''two'', ''a tenth'', and ''first'', is such a vast topic that it is treated in its own chapter [[Mirad_Grammar/Numbers]] <noinclude>{{Chapter navigation with TOC|Adverbs|Numbers}}</noinclude> bx7ohog3ao6cbjhfdorfzbvuaykoo61 4520817 4520816 2025-07-01T18:27:47Z Tyoyafud 6233 /* Deictic Determiner Adverbs */ 4520817 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>{{status|100%}}</noinclude> : Determiners are words that specify or point out the context of nouns and other parts of speech. The English determiner ''this'', for example, specifies a noun for its proximity to the current context. In English, demonstrative pronouns/adjectives/adverbs, possessive pronouns/adjectives, quantifiers like ''more'' and ''very'', and numeric expressions like ''both'' fall under this category. == Types of Determiners == : Determiners in Mirad fall into the following categories: ::{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Types of Determiners |- ! Type !! Also Known As !! English Examples |- !row=1| Deictic | Demonstrative Pronouns/Adjectives/Adverbs || ''the'', ''this'', ''some'', ''every'', ''which?'', ''when'' |- !row=1| Pronominal | Possessive Pronouns/Adjectives | ''my'', ''anybody&apos;s'', ''one&apos;s own'' |- !row=1| Quantitative | Quantifiers || ''more'', ''less'', ''very'' |- !row=1| Numerical | Numerals/Fractions/Ordinals/Dates, etc. || ''one'', ''half'', ''first'' |} : Furthermore, as for part of speech, determiners can be adjectives, pronouns, or adverbs. As adjectives, determiners can itemize or classify. As pronouns, they can refer to one or more persons (male or female) or things. As adverbs, they can specify circumstance, i.e. time, place, degree, kind, age, frequency, and so forth. == Deictic Determiners == : '''''Deictic determiners''''' are words which point out or ''specify'' other words as to their context, including what grammarians often call '''''demonstratives'''''. All deictic determiners in Mirad begin with the letter '''h'''. The letters following the '''h''' indicate the grammatical and semantic category. : Deictic determiners include the following traditional grammatical categories: <div style="background: lightyellow"> ::* '''''Demonstrative adjectives ''''' like ''this'', ''that'', ''those'', ''that one'' ::* '''''The definite article''''' ''the ''&nbsp;&nbsp; (which is really a '''''demonstrative adjective''''' like those above.) ::* '''''Demonstrative pronouns''''' like ''this'', ''that'', ''those'', ''that one'' ::* '''''Interrogative and relative pronouns''''' like ''who, which, that'' ::* '''''Indefinite adjectives''''' like ''any'', ''some'', ''all'', ''something'', ''such'', etc. ::* '''''Indefinite pronouns''''' like ''any'', ''some'', ''all'', ''something'', ''such'', etc. ::* '''''Pronouns, adjectives, and adverbs of quantity''''' like ''so much'', ''that many'', ''how many?'', ''very'', etc. ::* '''''Adverbs of circumstance:''''' :::* '''''time''''' like ''when'', ''now'', ''ever'' :::* '''''place''''' like ''there'', ''here'', ''somewhere'' :::* '''''manner''''' like ''how'', ''thus'', ''somehow'' :::* '''''kind''''' like ''so'', age ''this year old'' :::* '''''direction''''' like ''that way'', ''any which way'' :::* '''''reason''''' ''why?'', ''for that reason'', ''for no reason'' :::* '''''degree''''' ''this (well)'', ''so (good)'', ''how (bad)'' :::* '''''frequency''''' like ''how often'', ''so often'', ''never'' :::* '''''age''''' like ''this old'', ''how old?'', ''of any age'' </div> === Deictic Prefixes === [[File:Deixis (DE).png|thumb|none]] : There is a whole set of '''''correlative deictic prefixes''''', which are joined to circumstantial stub category suffixes to derive pronoun, adjective, and adverb determiners. In some grammars, these words are called ''wh-question words and their pointed answers''. For example, QUESTION: <u>Who</u> is your wife? ANSWER: <u>This</u> is my wife. (or) QUESTION: <u>Where</u> is your house? ANSWER: My house is <u>here</u>. These word forms are called correlative because they relate to one another in way that can be mapped to a table. : Here are the Mirad deictic classification prefixes: :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Deictic Prefixes |- ! Classification !! Deictic Prefix |- ! scope="row" | Interrogative | '''duho-...?'''....''what?, which?'' |- ! scope="row" | Relative | '''ho-'''....''which, that'' |- ! scope="row" | Exclamatory | '''hoo-'''....''how...!'' |- ! scope="row" | Definite | '''ha-'''....''the'' |- ! scope="row: | Indefinite | '''he-'''....''some, a certain'' |- ! scope="row" | Proximal | '''hi-'''....''this, these'' |- ! scope="row" | Immediate | '''hii-'''....''the following'' |- ! scope="row" | Distal | '''hu-'''....''that, those'' |- ! scope="row" | Intensive | '''huu-'''....''such, so, what a...!'' |- ! scope="row" | Distributive | '''hya-'''....''every, all, each'' |- ! scope="row" | Indeterminate | '''hye-'''....''any, whatever'' |- ! scope="row" | Negative | '''hyo-'''....''no, not any'' |- ! scope="row | Identical | '''hyi-'''....''the same, the very'' |- ! scope="row" | Non-identical | '''hyu-'''....''the other, another, else'' |} : Note: The Identical ('''hyi-''') and Non-identical prefixes ('''hyu-''') can optionally be substituted with '''ge-''' (''same'') and '''oge-''' (different), respectively. === Circumstantial Category Suffixes === : The table below shows word stub suffixes that indicate the circumstantial category of deictic expressions. They are called stubs, because they are reduced word forms. The combination of deictic prefixes and circumstantial stub suffixes produce a matrix of deictic '''''correlatives''''', seen later in this chapter. Use of the stub instead of the long form is a matter of optional economy. A few categories do not have stubs. :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Category Stubs |- ! Category !! Stub Suffix !! Long Form !! Short Question Form || Long Question Form |- ! row=1| Person | '''-t''' || '''<u>t</u>ob'''....''person'' || '''duhot?'''....''who?''|| '''duhotob?''' |- ! row=1| Thing | '''-s''' ||'''<u>s</u>un'''....''thing'' || '''duhos?'''....''what?''|| '''duhosun?''' |- ! row=1| Place | '''-m''' ||'''ne<u>m</u>'''....''place'' || '''duhom?'''....''where?''|| '''duhonem?''' |- ! row=1| Time | '''-j''' ||'''<u>j</u>ob'''....''time'' || '''duhoj?'''....''when?''|| '''duhojob?''' |- ! row=1| Manner | '''-yen''' ||'''b<u>yen</u>'''....''manner'' || '''duhoyen?'''....''how?''||'''duhobyen?''' |- ! row=1| Kind | '''-yena''' ||'''sauna</u>'''....''kind of'' || '''duhoyena?'''....''what kind of?''||'''duhosauna?''' |- ! row=1| Degree | '''-gla''' ||'''nog'''....''degree'' || '''duhogla (fi)?'''....''how (well)?''||'''duhonog?''' |- ! row=1| Number | '''-gla''' ||'''sag'''....''number'' || '''duhogla (pati)?'''....''how many (birds)?''||'''duhosag?''' |- ! row=1| Mass Quantity | '''-gla''' ||'''glan'''....''amount'' || '''duhogla (mil)?'''....''how much (water)?''||'''duhoglan?''' |- ! row=1| Frequency | ||'''xag'''....''frequency''|| '''duhoxag?'''....''how often?''|| -- |- ! row=1| Reason | '''-avhos''' || '''av hosun'''....''reason'' || '''duavhos?'''....''why?''|| '''duavhosun?''' |- ! row=1| Age | ||'''jaga'''....''of age'' || '''duhojaga?'''....''how old?''|| -- |} : There can be other circumstantial categories other than those listed above, such as "direction", "order", etc. eg. '''Duhomep wit pa?'''....''Which way did he go?''. === Charts of Correlative Deictic Determiners === : Here is are three tables showing the matrix of correlative deictic determiners. Note that the determiners belong to three parts of speech, 1) adjectives, 2) pronouns, and 3) adverbs: :{| class="wikitable" font-size:smaller style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |- ! Part of Speech !! Ending |- | Adjective || '''-a''' |- | Pronoun || '''-t(i)''', '''-s(i)''' |- | Adverb || (no ending) |} ==== Deictic Determiner Adjectives ==== : All deictic determiner adjectives end in '''-a''' and are used to modify nouns. :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Adjectives |- valign=top ! !! Selective<br>-a!! Possessive<br>-ta !! Kind/Manner<br>-yena !! Quantity<br>-gla !! Age<br>-jaga |- ! Interrogative |'''duhoa?'''<br>''which?''||'''duhota?'''<br>''whose?''|| '''duhoyena?'''<br>''what kind of?''||'''duhogla?'''<br>''how much/many?'' ||'''duhojaga?'''<br>''how old?'' |- valign=top ! Relative |'''hoa'''<br>''which''||'''hota'''<br>''whose''|| '''hoyena'''<br>''what kind of''||'''hogla'''<br>''how much/many'' ||'''hojaga'''<br>''how old'' |- valign=top ! Exclamatory |'''hooa'''<br>''what a...!''|| || ||'''hoogla'''<br>''look how much/many...!'' ||'''hoojaga'''<br>''how old a...!'' |- valign=top ! Definite |'''ha'''<sup>1</sup><br>''the''||'''hatas'''<br>''the person’s''|| '''hayena'''<br>''of the kind''||'''hagla'''<br>''of the amount'' ||'''hajaga'''<br>''of the age'' |- valign=top ! Indefinite |'''hea'''<br>''some/a certain''||'''heta'''<br>''someone's''|| '''heyena'''<br>''some kind of''||'''hegla'''<br>''some'' ||'''hejaga'''<br>''somewhat old'' |- valign=top ! Proximal |'''hia'''<br>''this''||'''hita'''<br>''this person’s''|| '''hiyena'''<br>''this kind of''||'''higla'''<br>''this much'' ||'''hijaga'''<br>''this old'' |- valign=top ! Immdediate |'''hiia'''<br>''the following''||'''hiita'''<br>''the follow person’s''|| '''hiiyena'''<br>''the following kind of'' || '''hiigla'''<br>''to the following degree'' ||'''hiijaga'''<br>''of the following age'' |- valign=top ! Distal |'''hua'''<br>''that''||'''huta'''<br>''that person’s''|| '''huyena'''<br>''that kind of'' ||'''hugla'''<br>''that much/many'' ||'''hujaga'''<br>''of that age'' |- valign=top ! Intensive |'''huua'''<br>''such a''||'''huuta'''<br>''such a person’s''|| '''huuyena'''<br>''such kind of'' ||'''huugla'''<br>''so much/many'' ||'''huujaga'''<br>''of such an age'' |- valign=top ! Negative |'''hyoa'''<br>''no''||'''hyota'''<br>''nobody’s''|| '''hyoyena'''<br>''no kind of'' ||'''hyogla'''<br>''no amount/number of'' ||'''hyojaga'''<br>''of no age'' |- valign=top ! Distributive |'''hya'''<sup>1</sup><br>''every, all''||'''hyata'''<br>''everybody’s''|| '''hyayena'''<br>''every kind of'' ||'''hyagla'''<br>''all'' ||'''hyajaga'''<br>''of every age'' |- valign=top ! Indeterminate |'''hyea'''<br>''whichever/any''<sup>2</sup>||'''hyeta'''<br>''whosever''|| '''hyeyena'''<br>''whatever/any kind of'' ||'''hyegla'''<br>''however much/many'' ||'''hyejaga'''<br>''however old'' |- valign=top ! Identical |'''hyia'''<br>''the same''||'''hyita'''<br>''the same person’s''|| '''hyiyena'''<br>''the same kind of'' ||'''hyigla'''<br>''just as'' ||'''hyijaga'''<br>''just as old'' |- valign=top ! Non-identical |'''hyua'''<br>''the other''||'''hyuta'''<br>''someone else's''|| '''hyuyena'''<br>''another kind of'' ||'''hyugla'''<br>''not as much/many'' ||'''hyujaga'''<br>''of another age'' |} : There are other adjectival determiners such as '''duhonoga'''....''how/to what degree'', '''duhosauna'''....''what kind of'' that are not included in the above chart. :Note 1) The determiners '''ha''' (''the'') and '''hya''' (''every'') are shortened forms of '''haa''' and '''hyaa'''. Also, '''ha''' is commonly called a "definite article". ::* While '''hya''' means ''every'' or ''all'', the word '''hyawa''' is used for ''each''. ::* The possessive adjective forms in the above table ending in '''-ta''' such as '''hyeta'''....''whosever'' cannot be pluralized by the ending '''-tia'''. To say '''other people's''', use the expression '''bi hyuti''' (Lit. ''of others''). ::* The '''ho-''' words are relative, meaning that they can serve to form relative clauses like the following: :::* '''Ha toyb, <u>hota</u> twad se Bill,'''....''The woman, <u>whose</u> husband is Bill,'' :::* '''At voy te <u>hos</u> et tepfe.'''....''I don't know <u>what</u> you mean.'' :::* '''At teste <u>hogla</u> et fie iyt.'''....''I understand <u>how much</u> you love her.'' ::* The '''hoo-''' words are exclamatory and are used in expressions like the following: :::* '''<u>Hoogla</u> iva se at van et upa!'''....''<u>How</u> glad I am that you came!'' :::* '''<u>Hooa</u> jub his saye!'''....''<u>What a</u> day this has been!'' ('''Hooa''' is pronounced ''ho-O-a'' as three syllables.) :Note 2) The indeterminant determiners can also be translated with ''no matter what, no matter where, etc.'' ==== Deictic Determiner Pronouns ==== : All deictic determiner pronouns end either in '''-t''' for persons or '''-s''' for things. They can be singular or plural ('''-i'''). :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Pronouns |- valign=top ! !! Thing -s<br>Things -si !! Person -t<br>Persons -ti !! Kind of Thing -yenas<br>Kinds of Things -yenasi !! Amount -glas<br>Number of Things -glasi !! Number of People -glati |- valign=center ! Interrogative |'''duhos?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what?''<br>'''duhosi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what (things)?''|| '''duhot?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who?''<br>'''duhoti?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who (pl.)''|| '''duhoyenas?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what kind of thing?'' <br>'''duhoyenasi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;what kinds of things?|| '''duhoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how much?''<br>'''duhoglasi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many things?''|| '''duhoglati?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many people?'' |- valign=center ! Relative |'''hos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what''<br>'''hosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what''|| '''hot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who''<br>'''hoti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who''|| '''hoyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what kind of thing'' <br>'''hoyenasi'''|| '''hoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how much''<br>'''hoglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many''|| '''hoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many'' |- ! Exclamatory |'''hoos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a thing!''<br>'''hoosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what things!''|| '''hoot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a person!''<br>'''hooti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what people!''|| || '''hooglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what an amount!''<br>'''hooglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a number!''|| '''hoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a number of people!'' |- valign=center ! Definite |'''has'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''it''<br>'''hasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''they/them''|| '''hat'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''he/she/him/her''<br>'''hati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''they/them''|| '''hayenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the king of thing''<br>'''hayenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the kind of things''|| '''haglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the amount'' <br>'''haglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the number of things''|| '''haglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the number of people'' |- valign=center ! Indefinite |'''hes'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''something''<br>'''hesi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some things''|| '''het'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''someone''<br>'''heti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some''|| '''heyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some kind of thing'' <br>'''heyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some kinds of thing''|| '''heglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some''<br>'''heglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some things''|| '''heglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some people'' |- valign=center ! Proximal |'''his'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this''<br>'''hisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these''|| '''hit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this person''<br>'''hiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these people''|| '''hiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this kind of thing'' <br>'''hiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these kinds of things''|| '''higlas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this much''<br>'''higlasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this many''|| '''higlati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this many people'' |- valign=center ! Immediate |'''hiis'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following thing''<br>'''hiisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following things''|| '''hiit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following person''<br>'''hiiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following people''|| '''hiiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following kind of thing'' <br>'''hiiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following kinds of things''|| '''hiiglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following amount''<br>'''hiiglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this following number of things''|| '''hiiglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following number of people'' |- valign=center ! Distal |'''hus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that''<br>'''husi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those''|| '''hut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that person''<br>'''huti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those people''|| '''huyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that kind of thing'' <br>'''huyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those kinds of things''|| '''huglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that much''<br>'''huglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that many''|| '''huglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that many people'' |- valign=center ! Intensive |'''huus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a thing''<br>'''huusi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such things''|| '''huut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a person''<br>'''huuti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such people''|| '''huuyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a kind of thing'' <br>'''huuyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such kinds of things''|| '''huuglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so much''<br>'''huuglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so many''|| '''huuglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so many people'' |- valign=center ! Negative |'''hyos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''nothing''<br>'''hyosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none of them''|| '''hyot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''nobody''<br>'''hyoti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none of them''|| '''hyoyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''no kind of thing'' <br>'''hyoyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''no kinds of things''|| '''hyoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none''<br>'''hyoglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none''|| '''hyoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none'' |- valign=center ! Distributive |'''hyas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''everything''<br>'''hyasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyat'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''everybody''<br>'''hyati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyayenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''every kind of'' <br>'''hyayenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all kinds of things''|| '''hyaglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of it''<br>'''hyaglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyaglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them'' |- valign=center ! Indeterminate |'''hyes'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''anything''<br>'''hyesi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any''|| '''hyet'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''anybody''<br>'''hyeti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of them''|| '''hyeyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any kind of'' <br>'''hyeyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''whatever things''|| '''hyeglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of it''<br>'''hyeglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of them''|| '''hyeglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''whoever'' |- valign=center ! Identical |'''hyis'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same thing''<br>'''hyisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same things''|| '''hyit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same person''<br>'''hyiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same people''|| '''hyiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same kind of'' <br>'''hyiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same kinds of things''|| '''hyiglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as much''<br>'''hyiglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as many''|| '''hyiglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as many people'' |- valign=center ! Non-identical |'''hyus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''something else''<br>'''hyusi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other things''|| '''hyut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''someone else''<br>'''hyuti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other people''|| '''hyuyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another kind'' <br>'''hyuyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other kinds''|| '''hyuglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another amount''<br>'''hyuglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another number of things''|| '''hyuglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another number of people'' |} : Concerning the above chart, note the following: ::* The interrogative determiners all begin with '''duho-''', which means '''say which''', and are technically imperatives. '''Duhom?''', for example, means '''Tell (me) the place...'''. The '''o'''-stem forms without the '''du-''' are used as relative clause heads, eg. '''At po <u>hom</u> et po.'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''I will go <u>where</u> you go.'' ::* Interrogatives usually come at the beginning of a sentence as in English, eg. '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* Determiners come first before any other epithets of a noun, eg. '''<u>Hia</u> aga jaga tam...'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''<u>This</u> big old house...''. ::* Person and Thing determiners can be made selective by inserting '''a''' before the final '''t''' or '''s''', eg. '''Duhot?''' means ''Who?'', while '''Duhoat?''' means ''Which one (of several persons)?'' ==== Deictic Determiner Adverbs ==== : All deictic determiner adverbs refer to a circumstance. :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Adverbs |- valign=top ! Circumstance--> !! Place<br>-m !! Time<br>-j !! Manner<br>-yen!! Degree<br>-gla !! Frequency<br>-xag !! Reason<br>-sav |- valign=center ! Interrogative | '''duhom?'''<br>''where?'' || '''duhoj?'''<br>''when?'' || '''duhoyen?'''<br>''how?'' || '''dugla?'''<br>''how (very)?'' || '''duxag?'''<br>''how often?''|| '''duavhos?'''<br>''why?'' |- valign=center ! Relative | '''hom'''<br>''where'' || '''hoj'''<br>''when'' || '''hoyen'''<br>''how'' || '''hogla'''<br>''how (very)'' || '''hoxag'''<br>''how often'' || '''avhos van'''<br>''because'' |- valign=center ! Exclamatory | || || '''hooyen'''<br>''and how!'' || '''hoogla'''<br>''how very...!'' || || |- valign=center ! Definite | '''ham'''<br>''the place'' || '''haj'''<br>''the time'' || '''hayen'''<br>''the manner'' || '''hagla'''<br>''just as'' || '''haxag'''<br>''as frequently''|| '''avhas'''<br>''the reason'' |- valign=center ! Indefinite | '''hem'''<br>''somewhere'' || '''hej'''<br>''sometime'' || '''heyen'''<br>''somehow'' || '''hegla'''<br>''somewhat'' || '''hexag'''<br>''somewhat often''||'''avhes'''<br>''for some reason'' |- valign=center ! Proximal | '''him'''<br>''here'' || '''hij'''<br>''now'' || '''hiyen'''<br>''this way'' || '''higla'''<br>''this'' || '''hixag'''<br>''this often''||'''avhis'''<br>''for this reason'' |- valign=center ! Immediate | '''hiim'''<br>''the following place'' || '''hiij'''<br>''the following time'' || '''hiiyen'''<br>''the following way'' || '''hiigla'''<br>''to the following degree'' || '''hiixag'''<br>''at the following frequency''||'''avhiis'''<br>''for the following reason'' |- valign=center ! Distal | '''hum'''<br>''there'' || '''huj'''<br>''then'' || '''huyen'''<br>''that way'' || '''hugla'''<br>''to that degree'' || '''huxag'''<br>''that often''|| '''avhus'''<br>''therefore'' |- valign=center ! Intensive | '''huum'''<br>''such a place'' || '''huuj'''<br>''at such a time'' || '''huuyen'''<br>''in such a way'' || '''huugla'''<br>''so (very)'' || '''huuxag'''<br>''so often''|| '''avhuus'''<br>''for such a reason'' |- valign=center ! Negative | '''hyom'''<br>''nowhere'' || '''hyoj'''<br>''never'' || '''hyoyen'''<br>''in no way'' || '''hyogla'''<br>''not at all'' || '''hyoxag'''<br>''not once''|| '''avhyos'''<br>''for no reason'' |- valign=center ! Distributive | '''hyam'''<br>''everywhere'' || '''hyaj'''<br>''always'' || '''hyayen'''<br>''in every way'' || '''hyagla'''<br>''fully'' || '''hyaxag'''<br>''always''||'''avhyas'''<br>''for every reason'' |- valign=center ! Indeterminate | '''hyem'''<br>''anywhere'' || '''hyej'''<br>''whenever'' || '''hyeyen'''<br>''however'' || '''hyegla'''<br>''however'' || '''hyexag'''<br>''however often'' || '''avhyes'''<br>''for whatever reason'' |- valign=center ! Indentical | '''hyim'''<br>''at the same place'' || '''hyij'''<br>''at the same time'' || '''hyiyen'''<br>''in the same way'' || '''hyigla'''<br>''as'' || '''hyixag'''<br>''as often''|| '''avhyis'''<br>''for the same reason'' |- valign=center ! Non-identical | '''hyum'''<br>''somewhere else'' || '''hyuj'''<br>''some other time'' || '''hyuyen'''<br>''otherwise'' || '''hyugla'''<br>''not as'' || '''hyuxag'''<br>''not as often''||'''avhyus'''<br>''for some other reason'' |} : Concerning the above chart, note the following: ::* The interrogative determiners all begin with '''duho-''', which means '''say which''', and are technically imperatives. '''Duhom?''', for example, means '''Tell (me) the place...'''. The '''o'''-stem forms without the '''du-''' are used as relative clause heads, eg. '''At po <u>hom</u> et po.'''....''I will go <u>where</u> you go.'' ::* Interrogatives usually come at the beginning of a sentence as in English, eg. '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* Determiners come first before any other epithets of a noun, eg. '''<u>Hia</u> aga jaga tam...'''....''<u>This</u> big old house...''. :* Also not included in the above chart is a related interrogative, which is a complementizer. :::* '''Duven...?'''.... (Question introducer) '''Is it true that...?, Say whether...''' ::::* '''<u>Duven</u> et se tadxwa?'''....''Are you married? (= <u>Say whether</u> you are married.)'' ::* The adverbs of degree in the above chart ('''duhogla?''', etc.) are interchangeable with adverbs ending in '''-nog'''....''degree'' ('''duhonog?'''....''to what degree?, how...?'', '''henog'''....''somewhat'') ::* Other deictic determiner adverbs of circumstance exist and are not on the above chart: :::* '''duhomep?'''....''which way?'' ::::* '''humep'''....''that way'' :::* '''duhobyun?'''....''to what end?'' ::::* '''hyobyun'''....''for no purpose'' :::* '''duhoizon?'''....''in which direction?'' ::::* ''''hyaizon'''....''in every direction'' ==== Examples of Deictic Determiner Usage ==== ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ('''Duhos''' is pronounced '''du-HOS''') ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> se iyta twad?'''....''<u>Who</u> is her husband?'' ::* '''<u>Duhowat</u> se iyta twad?'''....''<u>Which one of the guys</u> is her husband?'' (selective) ::* '''<u>Duhoti</u> fe eker?'''....''<u>Who (pl.)</u> want to play?'' ::* '''<u>Hyas</u> se fia.'''....''<u>Everything</u> is fine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyat</u> tre et.'''....''<u>Everyone</u> knows you.'' ::* '''<u>Hyot</u> tre at.'''....''<u>Nobody</u> knows me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyati</u> ekeye fi.'''....''<u>All of them</u> are playing well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoti</u> ekeye fi.'''....''<u>None of them</u> are playing well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> yafe eker.'''....''<u>Anyone</u> can play.'' ::* '''<u>Hyes</u> yafwe.'''....''<u>Anything</u> is possible.'' ::* '''At fe <u>hyuyenat</u> be ata ekutyan.'''....''I want <u>someone else</u> on my team.'' ::* '''<u>Huuyenati</u> fyuxe yata oj.'''....''<u>Such people</u> harm our future.'' ::* '''Et yefe tepier <u>hiisi</u>.'''....''You must bear in mind <u>the following things</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et xa hus.'''.....''<u>How</u> did you do that?'' (pronounced '''du-ho-YEN''') ::* '''<u>Duavhos</u> iyt pia <u>huugla</u> jwa?'''....''<u>Why</u> did she leave <u>so</u> early?'' ::* '''<u>Hwita</u> tam se ga aga.'''....''<u>This guy's</u> house is bigger.'' ::* '''At voy ayse ha dyuni <u>bi huyti</u>.'''....''I don't have <u>those women's</u> names.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoa</u> tam se etas?'''....''<u>Which</u> house is yours?'' ::* '''<u>Huua</u> tej et ayse!'''....''<u>What a</u> life you have!'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyena</u> dyezuni ifxe et?'''....''<u>What kind of</u> movies do you like?'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> tef okwa?'''....''<u>Whose</u> hat was lost?'' ::* '''<u>Hota</u> tef okwa bese otwas.'''....''<u>Whose</u> hat was lost remains a mystery.'' ::* '''<u>Ha</u> tob ta yata dyuni.'''....''<u>The</u> man knew our names.'' ::* '''<u>Hoyena</u> dini at ife, et ufe.'''....''<u>The kind of</u> stories I love, you hate.'' ::* '''<u>Hea</u> mepi gawdyunxwo.'''....''<u>Certain</u> streets will be renamed.'' ::* '''<u>Heyena</u> fukyes uxaye purilp nyaunx.'''....''<u>Some kind of</u> accident has caused a traffic jam.'' ::* '''<u>Heta</u> abtaf kaxwa be ha zatem.'''.....''<u>Someone's</u> coat was found in the foyer.'' ::* '''<u>Hia</u> dyes se ata gwafwas.'''....''<u>This</u> book is my favorite.'' ::* '''<u>Hiia</u> duni se ofwa.'''....''<u>The following</u> words are prohibited.'' ::* '''<u>Hiiyena</u> axlyen voy afwu.'''....''<u>The following sort of</u> behavior would not be allowed.'' ::* '''<u>Hiyena</u> axlyen voy vayafwo.'''....''<u>This type of</u> behavior will not be tolerated.'' ::* '''<u>Hita</u> tim so yolza.'''....''<u>This person's</u> room will be blue.'' ::* '''<u>Hua</u> mas efwe gawvozilbwer.'''....''<u>That</u> wall needs to be repainted.'' ::* '''<u>Huua</u> dini yufxe tudi.'''....''<u>Such</u> stories scare children.'' ::* '''<u>Huyena</u> duni voy yeyfwe yixwer za at.'''....''<u>Such</u> words should not be used in front of me.'' ::* '''<u>Hwuta</u> tam magseye.'''....''<u>That guy's</u> house is on fire.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoa</u> din se ga kyitesa.'''....''<u>No</u> story is more important.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoyena</u> tes tesiyafwe.'''....''<u>No such</u> meaning can be inferred.'' ::* '''<u>Hyota</u> jatexdras sa ga fia.'''....''<u>Nobody's</u> plan is better.'' ::* '''<u>Hyos</u> oboxe huyt.'''....''<u>Nothing</u> bothers that gal.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> mepi izpe Roma.'''....''<u>All</u> roads lead to Rome.'' ::* '''<u>Hya ha</u> mepi se ebwa.'''....''<u>All the</u> roads are blocked.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> twob yefe xer ita gon.'''....''<u>Every</u> man must do his part.'' ::* '''<u>Hyayena</u> telami ese be hia domep.'''....''<u>All manner of</u> restaurants exist on this street.'' ::* '''<u>Hyata</u> tej se uka bi yaobi.'''....''<u>Everyone's</u> life is full of ups and downs.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaewa</u> domi agsaye.'''....''<u>Both</u> cities have grown.'' ::* '''<u>Hyea</u> voz so fia.'''....''<u>Any</u> color will be fine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeyena</u> til se aysyafwa.'''....''<u>Any kind of</u> drink is available.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeta</u> ved se ge ifa vyel atas.'''....''<u>Anyone's</u> guess is as good as mine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyea</u> tim et fe et yafe ayser.'''....''<u>Whatever</u> room you want, you can have.'' ::* '''<u>Hyia</u>/(Ha gea) fukyesi kyese glaxag.'''....''<u>The same</u> accidents occur frequently.'' ::* '''<u>Hyiyena</u>/(Ha geyena) dyezuni teaxuwa zajub.'''....''<u>The same kind of</u> films were shown yesterday.'' ::* '''<u>Hyita</u>/(Ha geta) dyun yixwa gajod.'''....''<u>The same person's</u> name was used again.'' ::* '''<u>Hyua</u> dyezun sa ga ifuyea.'''....''<u>The other</u> movie was more entertaining.'' ::* '''<u>Hyuyena</u>/(Ogeyena) som teasu ga fia.'''....''<u>Another kind of</u> furniture would look better.'' ::* '''<u>Hyuta</u>/(ogeta) texyen se ge fyia.'''....''<u>Someone else's</u> opinion is equally valid.'' ::* '''Ha dyuni <u>bi hiyti</u> voy dodrawe.'''....''<u>These women's</u> names have not been made public.'' ::* '''Ha dyuni <u>bi hwiiti</u> voy dodrowe.'''....''<u>The following males'</u> names will not be publicized.'' ::* '''<u>Hijaga</u> tobweti voy afwo him.'''....''Boys <u>of this age</u> will not be allowed here.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> et tambese?'''....''<u>Where</u> do you live?'' ::* '''At tambese <u>hum</u>.'''....''I live <u>there</u>.'' ::* '''Et tambese <u>hom</u> ha mep uje.'''....''You live <u>where</u> the road ends.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> yet peye?'''....''<u>Where</u> are you people going?'' ::* '''Et yafe per <u>hyem</u> et fu.'''....''You can go <u>anywhere</u> you would like.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> et byise?'''....''<u>Where</u> are you from?'' (Lit: ''Where do you originate?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoj</u> et taja?'''....''<u>When</u> were you born?'' ::* '''At voy tajaya <u>huj</u>.'''....''I had not been born <u>then</u>.'' ::* '''Et yeyfe duder <u>hiiyen</u>.'''....''You should respond <u>in the following way</u>.'' ::* '''Ot voy yefe daler <u>huuyen</u>.'''....''One must not talk <u>in such a manner</u>.'' ::* '''Et pia <u>hesav</u>.'''....''He left <u>for some reason</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et iyfe hia vifil?'''....''<u>How</u> do like this wine?'' ::* '''Voy se fia axler <u>hiyen</u>.'''....''It is not good to act <u>this way</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duavhos</u> et tadia <u>huugla</u> jwa?'''....''<u>Why</u> did you marry <u>so</u> late?'' ::* '''Ha twob pia <u>avhyos</u>.'''....''The man left <u>for no reason</u>.'' ::* '''Hwat pia <u>avhos van</u> it efa per hem.'''....''The guy left <u>because</u> he needed to go somewhere.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeta</u> texyen so fia.'''....''<u>Anyone</u>'s opinion will be fine.'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> dyes se his?'''....''Whose book is this?'' ::* '''<u>Bi hoti</u> se hia dyesi?'''....''Whose are these books?'' ::* '''<u>Hyata</u> tili yebexe yom.'''....''<u>Everyone's</u> drinks contain ice.'' ::* '''Et se gaj <u>geyenat</u>( ~ <u>hyiyenat</u>).'''....''You are still <u>the same kind of person</u>.'' : The semantic reverser '''o-''' can be prefixed to some of the above deictic determiners: :: '''<u>Ohyat</u> tiste Platon.'''....''<u>Not everyone</u> understands Plato.'' :: '''<u>Ohut!</u>'''....''Not that person!'' :: '''At iyfe gwa apovili, oy <u>ohuas</u>!'''....''I like most beers, but <u>not that one</u>!'' : If the definite article or any other deictic determiner is omitted before a noun, then it has the effect of the English indefinite article ''a / an'' with a singular noun or ''some'' with a plural noun. For example: ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ha tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>a glass</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ha tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>(some) glasses</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>awa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>one glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha awa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the one glass</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>two glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the two glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>hyaewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>both glasses</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>owa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>no/zero glasses (=not a single glass)</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ea tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>another/a second glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ea tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the second glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ea tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>second glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ea tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the second glasses</u> of wine.'' : If an indefinite article sense is needed for clarity, the words '''awa''' (''one'') or '''hea''' (''some, a certain'') can be used, eg.: ::* '''At igteata <u>awa</u> tob yiztyoper.'''....''I glimpsed <u>a</u> man walk by.'' ::* '''Wit zoyupo <u>hea</u> juab.'''....''He will come back on <u>a / a certain / some</u> Monday.'' ==== Selective vs. Non-Selective Forms ==== : The deictic interrogative determiner pronoun '''duhot?''' means ''who(m)'' and contrasts with its '''''selective''''' counterpart '''duhoat?''', which means ''which one?''. All the selective determiners refer to one or more things or persons from a selectable pool of things or persons. : The following sentences illustrate the use of the above determiner pronouns: ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> aka zajuba ek?'''....''<u>Who</u> won yesterday's game?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoat</u> bi ha akuti sa ha gwa fiat?'''....''<u>Which one</u> of the winners was the best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> tam se hus?'''....''<u>Whose</u> house is that?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotas</u> se hus?'''....''<u>Whose</u> is that?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotia</u> deuzi et gaife?'''....''<u>Whose</u> songs do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotias</u> et gaife?'''....''<u>Whose</u> do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* '''<u>Duhosi</u> se eta gaifuni?'''....''<u>What</u> are your preferences?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoa</u> deuzi se eta gwa fiasi?'''....''<u>Which</u> songs are your best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoasi</u> se eta gwa fiasi?'''....''<u>Which ones</u> are your best?'' ::* '''Bi hia deuzuti, <u>hoat</u> et gaife?'''....''Of these vocalists, <u>which one</u> do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Hiiti</u> yaneko hijub.'''....''<u>The following people</u> will compete today.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoati</u> se gwa fia?'''....''<u>Which ones</u> are best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoti</u> et teexe gwa jodi?'''....''<u>Who (all)</u> do you listen to the most often?'' ::* '''<u>Hoat</u> at teexe gwaxag draye ejna deuz.'''....''<u>The one</u> I listen to the most has written a new song.'' ::* '''Ejna deuz? At voy teste <u>hoas</u> et tede.'''....''New song? I don't understand <u>which one</u> you mean.'' ::* '''<u>Hias</u>.'''....''<u>This one</u>.'' ::* '''Vo. <u>Huasi</u> se ga fia.'''....''No. <u>Those</u> are better.'' ::* '''<u>His</u> se jub av ivxelen.'''....''<u>This</u> is a day for celebration.'' ::* '''Va. <u>Hia</u> jub. At tese <u>hi</u>jub.'''....''Yes. <u>This</u> day. I mean <u>To-</u>day.'' ::* '''<u>Husi</u> sa <u>ha</u> jubi, ata dat!'''....''<u>Those</u> were <u>the</u> days, my friend!'' ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> aka ha igpek?'''....''<u>Who</u> won the race?'' ::* '''<u>Hyas</u> uja fi.'''....''<u>Everything</u> ended well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyasi</u> uje.'''....''<u>All things</u> come to an end.'' ::* '''<u>Hyayenasi</u> vey kyesu.'''....''<u>All sorts of things</u> might happen.'' ::* '''<u>Hyos</u> yokxa at.'''....''<u>Nothing</u> surprised me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyot</u> ta hot ako.'''....''<u>Nobody</u> knew who would win.'' ::* '''<u>Hoayti</u> fu pier yefe.'''....''<u>Those females</u> who would like to leave may.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> yefe eker hia ifek.'''....''<u>Anyone</u> can play this game.'' ::* '''<u>Huyenasi</u> voy afwo.'''....''<u>Such things</u> will not be permitted.'' ::* '''<u>Hua twob</u> voy taxe hia toyb.'''....''<u>That</u> man does not remember this woman.'' ::* '''<u>Hwuti</u> yanyexe fi.'''....''<u>Those guys</u> work well together.'' ::* '''<u>Huuyti</u> hyaj yubixe tepzex.'''....''<u>Such females</u> always attract attention.'' ::* '''At jay teataye <u>hiyenasi</u>.'''....''I've seen <u>such things</u> before.'' ::* '''<u>Huyenwat</u> voy vabiwu.'''....''<u>A guy like that</u> would not be accepted.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyenasi</u> weti iyfe xer je ha maj.'''....''<u>What kinds of things</u> do you guys like to do during the day?'' === Numerical Deictic Determiners === : Sometimes, a deictic determiner specifies numerical information. This chart shows those forms: :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Number-incorporating Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! Adjective !! Inanimate Pronoun !! Animate Pronoun !! Pronominal Determiner !! Possessive Pronoun |- | '''hawa'''<sup>1</sup><br> ''the only'' || '''hawas'''<br>''the only thing''<br>'''hawasi'''<br>''the only things'' || '''hawat'''<br>''the only one (person)''<br>'''hawati'''<br>''the only ones''|| '''hawata'''<br>''the only person&apos;s'' || '''hawatas'''<br>''the only one&apos;s''<br>'''hawatasi'''<br>''the only one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyawa'''*<br> ''each'' || '''hyawas'''<br>''each one'' || '''hyawat'''<br>''each person''|| '''hyawata'''<br>''each person&apos;s'' || '''hyawatas'''<br>''each one&apos;s''<br>'''hyawatasi'''<br>''each one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyaewa'''<br>''both'' || '''hyaewasi'''<br>''both (<small>things</small>)'' || '''hyaewati'''<br>''both (<small>people</small>)''|| '''bi hyaewati'''<br>''both person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyaewati'''<br>''both person&apos;s''<br>'''hasi bi hyaewati'''<br>''both persone&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyaiwa'''<br>''all three'' || '''hyaiwasi'''<br>''all three (<small>things</small>)'' || '''hyaiwati'''<br>''all three (<small>people</small>)''|| '''hyaiwata'''<br>''all three person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyaiwati'''<br>''all three person&apos;s''<br>'''hasi bi hyaiwati'''<br>''all three person&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''ohyawa'''<br>''not every'' || '''ohyawas'''<br>''not everything'' || '''ohyawat'''<br>''not everyone''|| '''ohyawata'''<br>''not every person&apos;s'' || '''ohyawatas'''<br>''not everyone&apos;s''<br>'''ohyawatasi'''<br>''not everyone&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyoawa'''<br>''not a single'' || '''hyoawas'''<br>''not a single thing'' || '''hyoawat'''<br>''not a single person''|| '''hyowata'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s'' || '''hyowatas'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s''<br>'''hyowatasi'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyeawa'''<br>''either'' || '''hyeawas'''<br>''either one'' || '''hyeawat'''<br>''either one (<small>person</small>)''|| '''hyeawata'''<br>''either one&apos;s'' || '''hyeawatas'''<br>''either one&apos;s''<br>'''hyeawatasi'''<br>''either one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyeewa'''<br>''any two'' || '''hyeewasi'''<br>''any two things'' || '''hyeewati'''<br>''any two people''|| '''bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two persons&apos;''<br>'''hasi bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two persons&apos; (things)'' |- | '''hyeowa'''<br>''neither'' || '''hyeowas'''<br>''neither one'' || '''hyeowat'''<br>''neither person''|| '''hyeawata'''<br>''neither person&apos;s'' || '''hyeowatas'''<br>''neither one&apos;s''<br>'''hyeowatasi'''<br>''neither one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyuawa'''<br>''another'' || '''hyuawas'''<br>''another one'' || '''hyuawat'''<br>''another''|| '''hyuawata'''<br>''another&apos;s'' || '''hyuawatas'''<br>''another&apos;s''<br>'''hyuawatasi'''<br>''another&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyuowa'''<br>''no other'' || '''hyuowas'''<br>''nothing else'' || '''hyuowat'''<br>''nobody else''|| '''hyuowata'''<br>''no other&apos;s'' || '''hyuowatas'''<br>''no other&apos;s''<br>'''hyuowatasi'''<br>''no other&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''gawa'''<sup>2</sup><br>''another'' || '''gawas'''<br>''another one'' || '''gawat'''<br>''another (person)''|| '''gawata'''<br>''another&apos;s'' || '''gawatas'''<br>''another&apos;s''<br>'''gawatasi'''<br>''another&apos;s (things)'' |} <small> :: Note 1) '''Hawa''' and '''hyawa''' are short for '''haawa''' and '''hyaawa''', respectively. :: Note 2) '''Gawa''' is short for '''ga awa''', ''yet one''. </small> ==== Notes on Numerical Deictic Determiners ==== : Examples using the above number-incorporating deictic determiners: ::* '''<u>Ohyawat</u> se iva bay eta vaod.'''....''<u>Not everyone</u> is happy with your decision.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaewasi</u> yafwe uxler yata efoni.'''....''<u>Both (things)</u> can serve our needs.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeawa</u> tim ivlaxo at.'''....''<u>Either</u> room will satisfy me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowas</u> oivlaxo at.'''....''<u>Neither one</u> will dissatisfy me.'' : Note: ::* '''hyua''' means ''another (an alternative)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hyua</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>another (a different)</u> drink.'' ::* '''hyuawa''' means ''another (an additional)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hyuawa</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>another (an additional)</u> drink.'' ::* '''ha hyua''' means ''the other (the alternative)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>ha hyua</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>the other</u> drink.'' : Similarly, '''hya''' means ''every, all'', while '''hyawa''' means ''each'', and '''hyaha'''....''all the'', ex: ::* '''<u>Hya</u> dom ayse tebixea suni teaxer.'''....''<u>Every</u> city has interesting things to see.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> domi ayse tebixusi.'''....''<u>All</u> cities have things of interest.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaha</u> domi ayse tebixusi.'''....''<u>All the</u> cities have things of interest.'' ::* '''<u>Hyawa</u> dom ayse tebixun.'''....''<u>Each</u> city has something of interest.'' : Also, '''ha''' means ''the'', while '''hawa''' means ''the only'', eg.: ::* '''<u>Ha</u> twob hu at gwa ife se et.'''....''<u>The</u> man I most love is you.'' ::* '''<u>Hawa</u> toyb nazea ata tepzex se et.'''....''<u>The only</u> woman worth my attention is you.'' : By appending '''y''' to '''hawa''', we get the adverb '''haway'''....''only, solely'', eg; ::* '''<u>Haway</u> et nize ata tepzex.'''....''<u>Only</u> you deserve my attention.''. : The singular person pronouns in the above chart can be converted into pronominal determiners by adding the adjective suffix '''a''', eg.: ::* '''<u>Hyawata</u> tej se ge glatesa vyel hyutas.'''....''<u>Each one's</u> life is as important as another's.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowata</u> dyun se vyama.'''....''<u>Neither person's</u> name is real.'' : However, the plural person pronouns in the above chart use the preposition '''bi''' (''of'') to form possessives, eg.: ::* '''Ha teji <u>bi hyaiwati</u> se kyebukuwa.'''....''The lives <u>of all three</u> are in danger.'' : The above singular pronominal determiners can, in turn, be converted into inanimate pronouns with the suffix '''-s'''. ::* '''<u>Hyawatas</u> se glatesa.'''....''<u>Each one's</u> is important.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowatas</u> se vyama.'''....''<u>Neither's</u> is real.'' : The plural pronominal determiners can be nominalized with the use of '''bi''', eg: ::* '''<u>Hyaiwasi</u> <u>bi huti</u> se kyebukuwa.'''....''<u>All three</u> <u>of theirs'</u> are in danger.'' : Correlative Number-incorporating Deictic Determiners are handled as follows: ::* '''Hyeawa A ey B'''....''either A or B'' ::* '''Hyeowa A oy B'''....''neither A nor B'' ::* '''Hyaewa A ay B'''....''both A and B'' ::* '''Hawa A, voy B'''....''only A, not B'' : The different, somewhat confusing, meanings of ''how'' are illustrated here: ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> wit xa hus?'''....''<u>How</u> did he do that?''.... (Equivalent to '''Be duha byen...?'''....''In what way...?'') (ADVERB OF MANNER) ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et xeye?'''....''<u>How</u> are you doing?''.... (This is the normal way of saying ''How are you?'' or ''How do you do?'' (ADVERB OF MANNER) ::* '''<u>Duhoyena</u> sa ha dyezun?'''....'' <u>How</u> was the film?''.... (''How'' here is an ADJECTIVE OF KIND, and thus ends in '''-a'''.) ::* '''<u>Duhonog (= Duhogla)</u> aga it se?'''....''<u>How</u> big is he?''.... (ADVERB OF DEGREE) ::* '''<u>Huunog (= Huugla)</u> iyfla et se!'''....''<u>How</u> nice you are!''.... (ADVERB OF EMPHATIC DEGREE) : The conjunction ''as'' is expressed most often using relative pro-adverbs of manner: ::* '''Xu <u>hoyen</u> at de.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I say.'' = (in) the way that... ::* '''Xu <u>hyiyen</u>''' (~ '''geyen''') '''at xe.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I do. ( = (in) the same way that...)'' ::* '''Xu <u>hiiyen</u>:'''....''Do <u>as follows</u>. ( = (in) this hereby manner...)'' : However, the preposition/conjunction '''gel''' (''like, as'') can be substituted: ::* '''Xu <u>gel</u> at de.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I say.'' : Many of the determiner adverbs in the above chart can be used in relative clauses, eg: ::* '''At teato et <u>hoj</u> et puo him.'''....''I will see you <u>when</u> you get here.'' ::* '''It xa has <u>avhos van</u> tosa yefa.'''....''He did it <u>because (for the reason that)</u> he felt compelled.'' ::* '''<u>Hyem</u> et po, et so ga iva.'''....''<u>Wherever</u> you go, you'll be happier.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> te ha did, yabu eta tuyab.'''....''<u>Whoever</u> knows the answer, raise your hand.'' ::* '''At te <u>hoyen</u> et xa is.'''....''I know <u>how</u> you did it.'' : See more about this in the section on [[Mirad_Grammar/Syntax#Relative_Clauses|relative clauses under Syntax]]. === Pronominal Deictic Determiners === : Some words in Mirad incorporate deictic prefixes with pronouns and pronominal adjectives, as shown in the following chart: {{small/top}} :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size;smaller;" |+ Pronominal Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! colspan=3 | Pronoun |- ! 1st Person Plural !! 2nd Person Plural !! 3rd Person Plural |- | '''duhoyat'''<br>''which of us'' || '''duhoyet'''<br>''which of you'' || '''duhoyit'''<br>''which of them'' |- | '''heyat'''<br>''some of us'' || '''heyet'''<br>''some of you'' || '''heyit'''<br>''which of them'' |- | '''hyayat'''<br>''each of us'' || '''hyayet'''<br>''each of you'' || '''hyayit'''<br>''each of them'' |- | '''hyeyat'''<br>''any of us'' || '''hyeyet'''<br>''any of you'' || '''hyeyit'''<br>''any of them'' |- | '''hyoyat'''<br>''none of us'' || '''hyoyet'''<br>''none of you'' || '''hyoyit'''<br>''none of them'' |- ! colspan=3 | Pronominal Adjective |- ! 1st Person (Plural) !! 2nd Person (Plural) !! 3rd Person (Plural) |- | '''duhoyata'''<br>''which of our'' || '''duhoyet'''<br>''which of your'' || '''duhoyita'''<br>''which of their'' |- | '''heyata'''<br>''some of our'' || '''heyeta'''<br>''some of your'' || '''heyita'''<br>''which of their'' |- | '''hyayata'''<br>''each of our'' || '''hyayeta'''<br>''each of your'' || '''hyayita'''<br>''each of their'' |- | '''hyeyata'''<br>''any of our'' || '''hyeyeta'''<br>''any of your'' || '''hyeyita'''<br>''any of their'' |- ! colspan=3 | Singular/(Plural) Possessive Pronoun |- ! 1st Person (Plural) !! 2nd Person (Plural) !! 3rd Person (Plural) |- | '''duhoyatas(i)'''<br>''which of ours'' || '''duhoyetas(i)'''<br>''which of yours'' || '''duhoyitas(i)'''<br>''which of theirs'' |- | '''heyatas(i)'''<br>''some of ours'' || '''heyetas(i)'''<br>''some of yours'' || '''heyitas(i)'''<br>''which of theirs'' |- | '''hyayatas(i)'''<br>''each of ours'' || '''hyayetas(i)'''<br>''each of yours'' || '''hyayitas(i)'''<br>''each of theirs'' |- | '''hyeyatas(i)'''<br>''any of ours'' || '''hyeyetas(i)'''<br>''any of yours'' || '''hyeyitas(i)'''<br>''any of theirs'' |- | '''hyoyatas(i)'''<br>''none of ours'' || '''hyoyetas(i)'''<br>''none of yours'' || '''hyoyitas(i)'''<br>''none of theirs'' |} {{small/end}} : The above possessive pronouns refer to things. If you replace the final '''-s''' or '''-si''', to '''-t''' or '''-ti''', then they become animate and refer to people, eg.: ::* '''Ese ewa tudi him. Duhoyitas se his?'''....''There are two children here. Which one of theirs is this?'' : All of the forms in the above chart can also be expressed as separate words, eg.: ::* '''Duhoyet?'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Duhoat bi yet?'''....''Which one of you?'' ::* '''Hyayat'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaglati bi yet'''....''All of us.'' ::* '''Hyoyatasi'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyogla yatasi'''....''All of ours (things)'' Note: ::* '''Awayat'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Awat bi yat'''....''one of us'' ::* '''Hyaewayet'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaewat bi yet'''....''both of you'' ::* '''Hyaiwayit'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaiwat bi yit'''....''all three of them'' === Quantitative Deictic Determiners === : The deictic prefixes can be combined with '''gla''' to form quantitative expressions acting as adverbial or adjectival determiners, and substantives (pronouns referring to things or people): {{small/top}} :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size;smaller;" |+ Quantitative Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! !! Adverbial / Adjectival<br>Determiner !! Inanimate Singular<br>Pronoun !! Inanimate Plural <br>Pronoun !! Animate Plural<br>Pronoun |- !row=1|Interrogative | '''duhogla?'''<br>''how?/how much?/how many?'' || '''duhoglas?'''<br>''how much?'' || '''duhoglasi?'''<br>''how many'' || '''duhoglati?'''<br>''how many (people)?'' |- !row=1|Relative | '''hogla'''<br>''as many/much'' || '''hoglas'''<br>''how much'' || '''duhoglasi'''<br>''how many'' || '''duhoglati'''<br>''how many (as)'' |- !row=1|Definite | '''hagla'''<br>''how/as much/as many'' || '''haglas'''<br>''as much'' || '''haglasi'''<br>''as many'' || '''haglati'''<br>''as many (people)'' |- !row=1|Indefinite | '''hegla'''<br>''somewhat/some/some'' || '''heglas'''<br>''some'' || '''heglasi'''<br>''some'' || '''heglati'''<br>''some (people)'' |- !row=1|Proximal | '''higla'''<br>''this/this much/this many'' || '''higlas'''<br>''this much'' || '''higlasi'''<br>''this many'' || '''higlati'''<br>''this many (people)'' |- !row=1|Distal | '''hugla'''<br>''that/that much/that many'' || '''huglas'''<br>''that much'' || '''huglasi'''<br>''that many'' || '''huglati'''<br>''that many (people)'' |- !row=1|Intensive | '''huugla'''<br>''so very, so much, so many'' || '''huuglas'''<br>''so much'' || '''huuglasi'''<br>''so many'' || '''huuglati'''<br>''so many (people)'' |- !row=1|Negative | '''hyogla'''<br>''none, not very'' || '''hyoglas'''<br>''none of it'' || '''hyoglasi'''<br>''none of them '' || '''hyoglati'''<br>''none'' |- !row=1|Distributive | '''hyagla'''<br>''totally/all/all'' || '''hyaglas'''<br>''all of it'' || '''hyaglasi'''<br>''all of them'' || '''hyaglati'''<br>''all'' |- !row=1|Indeterminate | '''hyegla'''<br>''however/any/any'' || '''hyeglas'''<br>''any of it'' || '''hyeglasi'''<br>''any of them'' || '''hyeglati'''<br>''any number of them'' |- !row=1|Identical | '''hyigla'''<br>''as/as much/as many, equally'' || '''hyiglas'''<br>''the same amount'' || '''hyiglasi'''<br>''the same number'' || '''hyiglati'''<br>''as many (people)'' |- !row=1|Non-identical | '''hyugla'''<br>''not as much/not as much/not as many'' || '''hyuglas'''<br>''a different amount'' || '''hyuglasi'''<br>''a different number of things'' || '''hyuglati'''<br>''a different number of people'' |} {{Small/end}} : Here are some examples showing how these quantitative determiners are used: ::* '''Et deuze <u>huugla</u> fi.'''....''You sing <u>so</u> well.'' ::* '''At se <u>hegla</u> booka.'''....''I am <u>somewhat</u> tired.'' ::* '''<u>Duhogla</u> pati et teata hijub?'''....''<u>How many</u> birds did you see today?'' ::* '''At teata vyavay <u>hugla</u> tami.'''....''I saw exactly <u>that many</u> houses.'' ::* '''Iyt fe <u>hyiglas</u> vyel et.'''....''She wants <u>the same amount</u> as you.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoglati</u> yantexe yet?'''....''<u>How many (people)</u> agree with you?'' ::* '''<u>Hyoglati</u> yantexe.'''....''<u>None</u> agree.'' ::* '''Yit fu <u>heglasi</u>.'''....''They would like <u>some (of them)</u>.'' ::* '''Et yafe bier <u>hyeglasi</u> et fe.'''....''You can take <u>however many</u> you want.'' ::* '''Besu bay at <u>hogla</u> job et fe.'''....''Stay <u>as</u> long with me as you want.'' ::* '''At se <u>huugla</u> booka.'''....''I am <u>so</u> tired.'' : NOTE: The following determiners are synonymous and interchangeable: ::* '''hegla''' = '''gle''' = '''henog''' (''somewhat, to some degree'') ::* '''hyigla''' = '''ge''' = '''hyinog''' (''as, equally, to the same degree'') : The determiner ''huugla'' can be used as an exclamatory adverb, eg.: ::* '''<u>Huugla</u> et agsaye!'''....''<u>How</u> you have grown!'' ::* '''Hua twob jagsaye <u>huugla</u>!'''....''That man has aged <u>so much</u>!'' ::* '''Hia jotul se <u>huugla</u> fiteluza!'''....''This dessert is <u>sooo</u> delicious!'' == Pronominal Determiners == : Pronominal Determiners are what are more often called '''''possessive adjectives''''' such as ''my'' or ''your'' and are discussed in a subsection of [[Mirad Grammar/Pronouns#Pronominal Determiners|Pronouns]]. == Quantitative Determiners == : '''''Quantitative determiners''''' act in one of several ways, they: ::* specify mass, uncountable, singular nouns for relative AMOUNT, eg. ''much happiness, less work'' ::* specify countable nouns for relative NUMBER, eg. ''one apple, two birds, many places'' ::* specify adverbs, adjectives, and verbs for relative DEGREE, eg. ''how poorly, very good, eat too much''. : From these, pronominalized quantitative determiners for PERSONS and THINGS can be derived. ::* Inanimate singular pronouns are formed by adding '''s''' for AN AMOUNT OF A THING ::* Inanimate plural pronouns are formed by adding '''si''' for A NUMBER OF THINGS ::* Animate plural pronouns are formed by adding '''ti''' for A NUMBER OF PERSONS. : The following table presents most of these word forms (Note that the determiners are in a plus (+), equal (=), or minus (-) row.): {| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; margin-left:1.6em; font-size:smaller;" |+ Quantitative Determiners |- !colspan=2|Adverb / Adjective !! Singular Pronoun !!colspan=2| Plural Pronoun |- !colspan=2|Degree/Amount/Number !! Amount !! Number of Things !! Number of People |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''ga'''....''more'' || '''gas'''....''more (stuff)'' || '''gasi'''....''many (things)'' || '''gati'''....''many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''ge'''....''as, as much, as many'' || '''ges'''....''as much (stuff)'' || '''gesi'''....''as many (things)'' || '''geti'''....''as many people'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''go'''....''less, fewer'' || '''gos'''....''less (stuff)'' || '''gosi'''....''fewer (things)'' || '''goti'''....''fewer (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gla'''....''very, much, many''<br>'''glay'''....''so, so much, so many''<br>'''glaa'''....''several'' || '''glas'''....''much (stuff)''<br>'''glays'''....''so much stuff'') || '''glasi'''....''many (things)''<br>'''glaysi'''....''so many (things)''<br>'''glaasi'''....''several things''|| '''glati'''....''many (people)''<br>'''glayti'''....''so many (people)''<br>'''glaati'''....''several people'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gle'''....''rather, quite a lot, quite a few'' || '''gles'''....''quite a lot (of stuff)'' || '''glesi'''....''quite a lot (of things)'' || '''gleti'''....''quite a few (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''glo'''....''slightly, a little, few'' || '''glos'''....''a little bit'' || '''glosi'''....''a few (things)'' || '''gloti'''....''few (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gra'''....''too, too much, too many'' || '''gras'''....''too much (stuff)'' || '''grasi'''....''too many (things)'' || '''grati'''....''too many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gre'''....''enough'' || '''gres'''....''enough (stuff)'' || '''gresi'''....''enough (things)'' || '''greti'''....''enough (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''gro'''....''insufficiently, too little, too few'' || '''gros'''....''too little'' || '''grosi'''....''too few'' || '''groti'''....''too few (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gwa'''....''most'' || '''gwas'''....''the most (stuff)'' || '''gwasi'''....''the most (things)'' || '''gwati'''....''most people'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gwe'''....''just so (much/many)'' || '''gwes'''....''just so much'' || '''gwesi'''....''just so many'' || '''gweti'''....''just so many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''gwo'''....''least'' || '''gwos'''....''the least (stuff)'' || '''gwosi'''....''the least (number of)'' || '''gwoti'''....''the least number (of people)'' |} : Examples Using Graded Quantitative Determiners :: Adverbs of degree modifying an adjective: :::* '''At se <u>gla</u> iva.'''....''I am <u>very</u> happy.'' :::* '''Et sa <u>gra</u> uga.'''....''You were <u>too</u> slow.'' :: Adverbs of Degree modifying another adverb: :::* '''Twobi dale <u>ge</u> igay vyel toybi.'''....''Men talk <u>as</u> fast as women.'' :::* '''Yat yexe <u>ga igay</u> vyel yet.'''....''We work faster (= <u>more quickly</u>) than you.'' :: Adjectives quantifying a singular mass noun: :::* '''<u>Ga</u> nas efwo.'''....''<u>More</u> money will be needed.'' :::* '''<u>Gra</u> nas noxwa.'''....''<u>Too much</u> money was spent.'' :: Adjectives quantifying a plural countable noun (= things or people): :::* '''At ayse <u>gro</u> sari.'''....''I've got <u>too few</u> tools.'' :::* '''<u>Gla</u> tami osexwa.'''....''<u>Many</u> houses were destroyed.'' :::* '''Yat efe <u>gla ga</u> valkdibuti.'''....''We need <u>many more</u> policemen.'' :: Pronouns referring to a mass amount of something (= stuff): :::* '''<u>Gas</u> ilokeye.'''....''<u>More (stuff)</u> is leaking.'' :::* '''Et dileye <u>gras</u>.'''....''You are asking for <u>too much (stuff)</u>.'' :::* '''Yat kexo <u>gwas</u>.'''....''We will seek <u>as much (stuff) as possible</u>.'' :::* '''At iba <u>gwes</u>.'''....''I received <u>just the right amount.</u>'' :: Pronouns referring to a countable number of things: :::* '''Hisi se fia oy yat fe <u>gasi</u>.'''....''These (items) are good but we want <u>more (items)</u>.'' :::* '''At teate drilari oy <u>grosi</u>.'''....''I see pens, but <u>too few</u>.'' :: Pronouns referring to a countable number of people: :::* '''<u>Grati</u> xaye vyoki be hia yexem.'''....''<u>Too many (people)</u> have made mistakes at this work site.'' :::* '''<u>Glati</u> dyunwe oy <u>gloti</u> kebiwe.'''....''<u>Many</u> are called but <u>few</u> are chosen.'' == Numerical Determiners == : This category of determiners, which includes cardinal, ordinal and other number words like ''two'', ''a tenth'', and ''first'', is such a vast topic that it is treated in its own chapter [[Mirad_Grammar/Numbers]] <noinclude>{{Chapter navigation with TOC|Adverbs|Numbers}}</noinclude> atzrv8mv8ia0eq90ietlmon2ojxpbbc 4520821 4520817 2025-07-01T18:40:53Z Tyoyafud 6233 /* Deictic Determiner Adverbs */ 4520821 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>{{status|100%}}</noinclude> : Determiners are words that specify or point out the context of nouns and other parts of speech. The English determiner ''this'', for example, specifies a noun for its proximity to the current context. In English, demonstrative pronouns/adjectives/adverbs, possessive pronouns/adjectives, quantifiers like ''more'' and ''very'', and numeric expressions like ''both'' fall under this category. == Types of Determiners == : Determiners in Mirad fall into the following categories: ::{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Types of Determiners |- ! Type !! Also Known As !! English Examples |- !row=1| Deictic | Demonstrative Pronouns/Adjectives/Adverbs || ''the'', ''this'', ''some'', ''every'', ''which?'', ''when'' |- !row=1| Pronominal | Possessive Pronouns/Adjectives | ''my'', ''anybody&apos;s'', ''one&apos;s own'' |- !row=1| Quantitative | Quantifiers || ''more'', ''less'', ''very'' |- !row=1| Numerical | Numerals/Fractions/Ordinals/Dates, etc. || ''one'', ''half'', ''first'' |} : Furthermore, as for part of speech, determiners can be adjectives, pronouns, or adverbs. As adjectives, determiners can itemize or classify. As pronouns, they can refer to one or more persons (male or female) or things. As adverbs, they can specify circumstance, i.e. time, place, degree, kind, age, frequency, and so forth. == Deictic Determiners == : '''''Deictic determiners''''' are words which point out or ''specify'' other words as to their context, including what grammarians often call '''''demonstratives'''''. All deictic determiners in Mirad begin with the letter '''h'''. The letters following the '''h''' indicate the grammatical and semantic category. : Deictic determiners include the following traditional grammatical categories: <div style="background: lightyellow"> ::* '''''Demonstrative adjectives ''''' like ''this'', ''that'', ''those'', ''that one'' ::* '''''The definite article''''' ''the ''&nbsp;&nbsp; (which is really a '''''demonstrative adjective''''' like those above.) ::* '''''Demonstrative pronouns''''' like ''this'', ''that'', ''those'', ''that one'' ::* '''''Interrogative and relative pronouns''''' like ''who, which, that'' ::* '''''Indefinite adjectives''''' like ''any'', ''some'', ''all'', ''something'', ''such'', etc. ::* '''''Indefinite pronouns''''' like ''any'', ''some'', ''all'', ''something'', ''such'', etc. ::* '''''Pronouns, adjectives, and adverbs of quantity''''' like ''so much'', ''that many'', ''how many?'', ''very'', etc. ::* '''''Adverbs of circumstance:''''' :::* '''''time''''' like ''when'', ''now'', ''ever'' :::* '''''place''''' like ''there'', ''here'', ''somewhere'' :::* '''''manner''''' like ''how'', ''thus'', ''somehow'' :::* '''''kind''''' like ''so'', age ''this year old'' :::* '''''direction''''' like ''that way'', ''any which way'' :::* '''''reason''''' ''why?'', ''for that reason'', ''for no reason'' :::* '''''degree''''' ''this (well)'', ''so (good)'', ''how (bad)'' :::* '''''frequency''''' like ''how often'', ''so often'', ''never'' :::* '''''age''''' like ''this old'', ''how old?'', ''of any age'' </div> === Deictic Prefixes === [[File:Deixis (DE).png|thumb|none]] : There is a whole set of '''''correlative deictic prefixes''''', which are joined to circumstantial stub category suffixes to derive pronoun, adjective, and adverb determiners. In some grammars, these words are called ''wh-question words and their pointed answers''. For example, QUESTION: <u>Who</u> is your wife? ANSWER: <u>This</u> is my wife. (or) QUESTION: <u>Where</u> is your house? ANSWER: My house is <u>here</u>. These word forms are called correlative because they relate to one another in way that can be mapped to a table. : Here are the Mirad deictic classification prefixes: :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Deictic Prefixes |- ! Classification !! Deictic Prefix |- ! scope="row" | Interrogative | '''duho-...?'''....''what?, which?'' |- ! scope="row" | Relative | '''ho-'''....''which, that'' |- ! scope="row" | Exclamatory | '''hoo-'''....''how...!'' |- ! scope="row" | Definite | '''ha-'''....''the'' |- ! scope="row: | Indefinite | '''he-'''....''some, a certain'' |- ! scope="row" | Proximal | '''hi-'''....''this, these'' |- ! scope="row" | Immediate | '''hii-'''....''the following'' |- ! scope="row" | Distal | '''hu-'''....''that, those'' |- ! scope="row" | Intensive | '''huu-'''....''such, so, what a...!'' |- ! scope="row" | Distributive | '''hya-'''....''every, all, each'' |- ! scope="row" | Indeterminate | '''hye-'''....''any, whatever'' |- ! scope="row" | Negative | '''hyo-'''....''no, not any'' |- ! scope="row | Identical | '''hyi-'''....''the same, the very'' |- ! scope="row" | Non-identical | '''hyu-'''....''the other, another, else'' |} : Note: The Identical ('''hyi-''') and Non-identical prefixes ('''hyu-''') can optionally be substituted with '''ge-''' (''same'') and '''oge-''' (different), respectively. === Circumstantial Category Suffixes === : The table below shows word stub suffixes that indicate the circumstantial category of deictic expressions. They are called stubs, because they are reduced word forms. The combination of deictic prefixes and circumstantial stub suffixes produce a matrix of deictic '''''correlatives''''', seen later in this chapter. Use of the stub instead of the long form is a matter of optional economy. A few categories do not have stubs. :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Category Stubs |- ! Category !! Stub Suffix !! Long Form !! Short Question Form || Long Question Form |- ! row=1| Person | '''-t''' || '''<u>t</u>ob'''....''person'' || '''duhot?'''....''who?''|| '''duhotob?''' |- ! row=1| Thing | '''-s''' ||'''<u>s</u>un'''....''thing'' || '''duhos?'''....''what?''|| '''duhosun?''' |- ! row=1| Place | '''-m''' ||'''ne<u>m</u>'''....''place'' || '''duhom?'''....''where?''|| '''duhonem?''' |- ! row=1| Time | '''-j''' ||'''<u>j</u>ob'''....''time'' || '''duhoj?'''....''when?''|| '''duhojob?''' |- ! row=1| Manner | '''-yen''' ||'''b<u>yen</u>'''....''manner'' || '''duhoyen?'''....''how?''||'''duhobyen?''' |- ! row=1| Kind | '''-yena''' ||'''sauna</u>'''....''kind of'' || '''duhoyena?'''....''what kind of?''||'''duhosauna?''' |- ! row=1| Degree | '''-gla''' ||'''nog'''....''degree'' || '''duhogla (fi)?'''....''how (well)?''||'''duhonog?''' |- ! row=1| Number | '''-gla''' ||'''sag'''....''number'' || '''duhogla (pati)?'''....''how many (birds)?''||'''duhosag?''' |- ! row=1| Mass Quantity | '''-gla''' ||'''glan'''....''amount'' || '''duhogla (mil)?'''....''how much (water)?''||'''duhoglan?''' |- ! row=1| Frequency | ||'''xag'''....''frequency''|| '''duhoxag?'''....''how often?''|| -- |- ! row=1| Reason | '''-avhos''' || '''av hosun'''....''reason'' || '''duavhos?'''....''why?''|| '''duavhosun?''' |- ! row=1| Age | ||'''jaga'''....''of age'' || '''duhojaga?'''....''how old?''|| -- |} : There can be other circumstantial categories other than those listed above, such as "direction", "order", etc. eg. '''Duhomep wit pa?'''....''Which way did he go?''. === Charts of Correlative Deictic Determiners === : Here is are three tables showing the matrix of correlative deictic determiners. Note that the determiners belong to three parts of speech, 1) adjectives, 2) pronouns, and 3) adverbs: :{| class="wikitable" font-size:smaller style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |- ! Part of Speech !! Ending |- | Adjective || '''-a''' |- | Pronoun || '''-t(i)''', '''-s(i)''' |- | Adverb || (no ending) |} ==== Deictic Determiner Adjectives ==== : All deictic determiner adjectives end in '''-a''' and are used to modify nouns. :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Adjectives |- valign=top ! !! Selective<br>-a!! Possessive<br>-ta !! Kind/Manner<br>-yena !! Quantity<br>-gla !! Age<br>-jaga |- ! Interrogative |'''duhoa?'''<br>''which?''||'''duhota?'''<br>''whose?''|| '''duhoyena?'''<br>''what kind of?''||'''duhogla?'''<br>''how much/many?'' ||'''duhojaga?'''<br>''how old?'' |- valign=top ! Relative |'''hoa'''<br>''which''||'''hota'''<br>''whose''|| '''hoyena'''<br>''what kind of''||'''hogla'''<br>''how much/many'' ||'''hojaga'''<br>''how old'' |- valign=top ! Exclamatory |'''hooa'''<br>''what a...!''|| || ||'''hoogla'''<br>''look how much/many...!'' ||'''hoojaga'''<br>''how old a...!'' |- valign=top ! Definite |'''ha'''<sup>1</sup><br>''the''||'''hatas'''<br>''the person’s''|| '''hayena'''<br>''of the kind''||'''hagla'''<br>''of the amount'' ||'''hajaga'''<br>''of the age'' |- valign=top ! Indefinite |'''hea'''<br>''some/a certain''||'''heta'''<br>''someone's''|| '''heyena'''<br>''some kind of''||'''hegla'''<br>''some'' ||'''hejaga'''<br>''somewhat old'' |- valign=top ! Proximal |'''hia'''<br>''this''||'''hita'''<br>''this person’s''|| '''hiyena'''<br>''this kind of''||'''higla'''<br>''this much'' ||'''hijaga'''<br>''this old'' |- valign=top ! Immdediate |'''hiia'''<br>''the following''||'''hiita'''<br>''the follow person’s''|| '''hiiyena'''<br>''the following kind of'' || '''hiigla'''<br>''to the following degree'' ||'''hiijaga'''<br>''of the following age'' |- valign=top ! Distal |'''hua'''<br>''that''||'''huta'''<br>''that person’s''|| '''huyena'''<br>''that kind of'' ||'''hugla'''<br>''that much/many'' ||'''hujaga'''<br>''of that age'' |- valign=top ! Intensive |'''huua'''<br>''such a''||'''huuta'''<br>''such a person’s''|| '''huuyena'''<br>''such kind of'' ||'''huugla'''<br>''so much/many'' ||'''huujaga'''<br>''of such an age'' |- valign=top ! Negative |'''hyoa'''<br>''no''||'''hyota'''<br>''nobody’s''|| '''hyoyena'''<br>''no kind of'' ||'''hyogla'''<br>''no amount/number of'' ||'''hyojaga'''<br>''of no age'' |- valign=top ! Distributive |'''hya'''<sup>1</sup><br>''every, all''||'''hyata'''<br>''everybody’s''|| '''hyayena'''<br>''every kind of'' ||'''hyagla'''<br>''all'' ||'''hyajaga'''<br>''of every age'' |- valign=top ! Indeterminate |'''hyea'''<br>''whichever/any''<sup>2</sup>||'''hyeta'''<br>''whosever''|| '''hyeyena'''<br>''whatever/any kind of'' ||'''hyegla'''<br>''however much/many'' ||'''hyejaga'''<br>''however old'' |- valign=top ! Identical |'''hyia'''<br>''the same''||'''hyita'''<br>''the same person’s''|| '''hyiyena'''<br>''the same kind of'' ||'''hyigla'''<br>''just as'' ||'''hyijaga'''<br>''just as old'' |- valign=top ! Non-identical |'''hyua'''<br>''the other''||'''hyuta'''<br>''someone else's''|| '''hyuyena'''<br>''another kind of'' ||'''hyugla'''<br>''not as much/many'' ||'''hyujaga'''<br>''of another age'' |} : There are other adjectival determiners such as '''duhonoga'''....''how/to what degree'', '''duhosauna'''....''what kind of'' that are not included in the above chart. :Note 1) The determiners '''ha''' (''the'') and '''hya''' (''every'') are shortened forms of '''haa''' and '''hyaa'''. Also, '''ha''' is commonly called a "definite article". ::* While '''hya''' means ''every'' or ''all'', the word '''hyawa''' is used for ''each''. ::* The possessive adjective forms in the above table ending in '''-ta''' such as '''hyeta'''....''whosever'' cannot be pluralized by the ending '''-tia'''. To say '''other people's''', use the expression '''bi hyuti''' (Lit. ''of others''). ::* The '''ho-''' words are relative, meaning that they can serve to form relative clauses like the following: :::* '''Ha toyb, <u>hota</u> twad se Bill,'''....''The woman, <u>whose</u> husband is Bill,'' :::* '''At voy te <u>hos</u> et tepfe.'''....''I don't know <u>what</u> you mean.'' :::* '''At teste <u>hogla</u> et fie iyt.'''....''I understand <u>how much</u> you love her.'' ::* The '''hoo-''' words are exclamatory and are used in expressions like the following: :::* '''<u>Hoogla</u> iva se at van et upa!'''....''<u>How</u> glad I am that you came!'' :::* '''<u>Hooa</u> jub his saye!'''....''<u>What a</u> day this has been!'' ('''Hooa''' is pronounced ''ho-O-a'' as three syllables.) :Note 2) The indeterminant determiners can also be translated with ''no matter what, no matter where, etc.'' ==== Deictic Determiner Pronouns ==== : All deictic determiner pronouns end either in '''-t''' for persons or '''-s''' for things. They can be singular or plural ('''-i'''). :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Pronouns |- valign=top ! !! Thing -s<br>Things -si !! Person -t<br>Persons -ti !! Kind of Thing -yenas<br>Kinds of Things -yenasi !! Amount -glas<br>Number of Things -glasi !! Number of People -glati |- valign=center ! Interrogative |'''duhos?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what?''<br>'''duhosi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what (things)?''|| '''duhot?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who?''<br>'''duhoti?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who (pl.)''|| '''duhoyenas?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what kind of thing?'' <br>'''duhoyenasi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;what kinds of things?|| '''duhoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how much?''<br>'''duhoglasi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many things?''|| '''duhoglati?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many people?'' |- valign=center ! Relative |'''hos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what''<br>'''hosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what''|| '''hot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who''<br>'''hoti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who''|| '''hoyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what kind of thing'' <br>'''hoyenasi'''|| '''hoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how much''<br>'''hoglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many''|| '''hoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many'' |- ! Exclamatory |'''hoos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a thing!''<br>'''hoosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what things!''|| '''hoot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a person!''<br>'''hooti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what people!''|| || '''hooglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what an amount!''<br>'''hooglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a number!''|| '''hoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a number of people!'' |- valign=center ! Definite |'''has'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''it''<br>'''hasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''they/them''|| '''hat'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''he/she/him/her''<br>'''hati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''they/them''|| '''hayenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the king of thing''<br>'''hayenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the kind of things''|| '''haglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the amount'' <br>'''haglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the number of things''|| '''haglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the number of people'' |- valign=center ! Indefinite |'''hes'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''something''<br>'''hesi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some things''|| '''het'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''someone''<br>'''heti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some''|| '''heyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some kind of thing'' <br>'''heyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some kinds of thing''|| '''heglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some''<br>'''heglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some things''|| '''heglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some people'' |- valign=center ! Proximal |'''his'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this''<br>'''hisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these''|| '''hit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this person''<br>'''hiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these people''|| '''hiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this kind of thing'' <br>'''hiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these kinds of things''|| '''higlas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this much''<br>'''higlasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this many''|| '''higlati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this many people'' |- valign=center ! Immediate |'''hiis'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following thing''<br>'''hiisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following things''|| '''hiit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following person''<br>'''hiiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following people''|| '''hiiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following kind of thing'' <br>'''hiiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following kinds of things''|| '''hiiglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following amount''<br>'''hiiglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this following number of things''|| '''hiiglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following number of people'' |- valign=center ! Distal |'''hus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that''<br>'''husi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those''|| '''hut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that person''<br>'''huti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those people''|| '''huyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that kind of thing'' <br>'''huyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those kinds of things''|| '''huglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that much''<br>'''huglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that many''|| '''huglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that many people'' |- valign=center ! Intensive |'''huus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a thing''<br>'''huusi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such things''|| '''huut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a person''<br>'''huuti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such people''|| '''huuyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a kind of thing'' <br>'''huuyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such kinds of things''|| '''huuglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so much''<br>'''huuglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so many''|| '''huuglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so many people'' |- valign=center ! Negative |'''hyos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''nothing''<br>'''hyosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none of them''|| '''hyot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''nobody''<br>'''hyoti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none of them''|| '''hyoyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''no kind of thing'' <br>'''hyoyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''no kinds of things''|| '''hyoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none''<br>'''hyoglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none''|| '''hyoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none'' |- valign=center ! Distributive |'''hyas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''everything''<br>'''hyasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyat'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''everybody''<br>'''hyati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyayenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''every kind of'' <br>'''hyayenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all kinds of things''|| '''hyaglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of it''<br>'''hyaglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyaglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them'' |- valign=center ! Indeterminate |'''hyes'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''anything''<br>'''hyesi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any''|| '''hyet'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''anybody''<br>'''hyeti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of them''|| '''hyeyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any kind of'' <br>'''hyeyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''whatever things''|| '''hyeglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of it''<br>'''hyeglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of them''|| '''hyeglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''whoever'' |- valign=center ! Identical |'''hyis'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same thing''<br>'''hyisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same things''|| '''hyit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same person''<br>'''hyiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same people''|| '''hyiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same kind of'' <br>'''hyiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same kinds of things''|| '''hyiglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as much''<br>'''hyiglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as many''|| '''hyiglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as many people'' |- valign=center ! Non-identical |'''hyus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''something else''<br>'''hyusi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other things''|| '''hyut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''someone else''<br>'''hyuti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other people''|| '''hyuyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another kind'' <br>'''hyuyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other kinds''|| '''hyuglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another amount''<br>'''hyuglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another number of things''|| '''hyuglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another number of people'' |} : Concerning the above chart, note the following: ::* The interrogative determiners all begin with '''duho-''', which means '''say which''', and are technically imperatives. '''Duhom?''', for example, means '''Tell (me) the place...'''. The '''o'''-stem forms without the '''du-''' are used as relative clause heads, eg. '''At po <u>hom</u> et po.'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''I will go <u>where</u> you go.'' ::* Interrogatives usually come at the beginning of a sentence as in English, eg. '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* Determiners come first before any other epithets of a noun, eg. '''<u>Hia</u> aga jaga tam...'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''<u>This</u> big old house...''. ::* Person and Thing determiners can be made selective by inserting '''a''' before the final '''t''' or '''s''', eg. '''Duhot?''' means ''Who?'', while '''Duhoat?''' means ''Which one (of several persons)?'' ==== Deictic Determiner Adverbs ==== : All deictic determiner adverbs refer to a circumstance. :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Adverbs |- valign=top ! Circumstance--> !! Place<br>-m !! Time<br>-j !! Manner<br>-yen!! Degree<br>-gla !! Frequency<br>-xag !! Reason<br>-sav |- valign=center ! Interrogative | '''duhom?'''<br>''where?'' || '''duhoj?'''<br>''when?'' || '''duhoyen?'''<br>''how?'' || '''duhogla?'''<br>''how (very)?'' || '''duhoxag?'''<br>''how often?''|| '''duavhos?'''<sup>1</sup><br>''why?'' |- valign=center ! Relative | '''hom'''<br>''where'' || '''hoj'''<br>''when'' || '''hoyen'''<br>''how'' || '''hogla'''<br>''how (very)'' || '''hoxag'''<br>''how often'' || '''avhos van'''<br>''because'' |- valign=center ! Exclamatory | || || '''hooyen'''<br>''and how!'' || '''hoogla'''<br>''how very...!'' || || |- valign=center ! Definite | '''ham'''<br>''the place'' || '''haj'''<br>''the time'' || '''hayen'''<br>''the manner'' || '''hagla'''<br>''just as'' || '''haxag'''<br>''as frequently''|| '''avhas'''<br>''the reason'' |- valign=center ! Indefinite | '''hem'''<br>''somewhere'' || '''hej'''<br>''sometime'' || '''heyen'''<br>''somehow'' || '''hegla'''<br>''somewhat'' || '''hexag'''<br>''somewhat often''||'''avhes'''<br>''for some reason'' |- valign=center ! Proximal | '''him'''<br>''here'' || '''hij'''<br>''now'' || '''hiyen'''<br>''this way'' || '''higla'''<br>''this'' || '''hixag'''<br>''this often''||'''avhis'''<br>''for this reason'' |- valign=center ! Immediate | '''hiim'''<br>''the following place'' || '''hiij'''<br>''the following time'' || '''hiiyen'''<br>''the following way'' || '''hiigla'''<br>''to the following degree'' || '''hiixag'''<br>''at the following frequency''||'''avhiis'''<br>''for the following reason'' |- valign=center ! Distal | '''hum'''<br>''there'' || '''huj'''<br>''then'' || '''huyen'''<br>''that way'' || '''hugla'''<br>''to that degree'' || '''huxag'''<br>''that often''|| '''avhus'''<br>''therefore'' |- valign=center ! Intensive | '''huum'''<br>''such a place'' || '''huuj'''<br>''at such a time'' || '''huuyen'''<br>''in such a way'' || '''huugla'''<br>''so (very)'' || '''huuxag'''<br>''so often''|| '''avhuus'''<br>''for such a reason'' |- valign=center ! Negative | '''hyom'''<br>''nowhere'' || '''hyoj'''<br>''never'' || '''hyoyen'''<br>''in no way'' || '''hyogla'''<br>''not at all'' || '''hyoxag'''<br>''not once''|| '''avhyos'''<br>''for no reason'' |- valign=center ! Distributive | '''hyam'''<br>''everywhere'' || '''hyaj'''<br>''always'' || '''hyayen'''<br>''in every way'' || '''hyagla'''<br>''fully'' || '''hyaxag'''<br>''always''||'''avhyas'''<br>''for every reason'' |- valign=center ! Indeterminate | '''hyem'''<br>''anywhere'' || '''hyej'''<br>''whenever'' || '''hyeyen'''<br>''however'' || '''hyegla'''<br>''however'' || '''hyexag'''<br>''however often'' || '''avhyes'''<br>''for whatever reason'' |- valign=center ! Indentical | '''hyim'''<br>''at the same place'' || '''hyij'''<br>''at the same time'' || '''hyiyen'''<br>''in the same way'' || '''hyigla'''<br>''as'' || '''hyixag'''<br>''as often''|| '''avhyis'''<br>''for the same reason'' |- valign=center ! Non-identical | '''hyum'''<br>''somewhere else'' || '''hyuj'''<br>''some other time'' || '''hyuyen'''<br>''otherwise'' || '''hyugla'''<br>''not as'' || '''hyuxag'''<br>''not as often''||'''avhyus'''<br>''for some other reason'' |} :Note 1) '''Duavhos?''' translates literally to "Say for what?". : Concerning the above chart, note the following: :* The interrogative determiners all begin with '''duho-''', which means '''say which''', and are technically imperatives. '''Duhom?''', for example, means '''Tell (me) the place...'''. The '''o'''-stem forms without the '''du-''' are used as relative clause heads, eg. '''At po <u>hom</u> et po.'''....''I will go <u>where</u> you go.'' :* Interrogatives usually come at the beginning of a sentence as in English, eg. '''<u>Duhom</u> se eta tam?'''....''<u>Where</u> is your house?'' :* Not included in the above chart is a related interrogative, which is a complementizer. ::* '''Duven...?'''.... (Question introducer) '''Is it true that...?, Say whether...''' :::* '''<u>Duven</u> et se tadxwa?'''....''Are you married? (= <u>Say whether</u> you are married.)'' :* The adverbs of degree in the above chart ('''duhogla?''', etc.) are interchangeable with adverbs ending in '''-nog'''....''degree'' ('''duhonog?'''....''to what degree?, how...?'', '''henog'''....''somewhat'') :* Other deictic determiner adverbs of circumstance exist and are not on the above chart: ::* '''duhomep?'''....''which way?'' :::* '''humep'''....''that way'' ::* '''duhobyun?'''....''to what end?'' :::* '''hyobyun'''....''for no purpose'' ::* '''duhoizon?'''....''in which direction?'' :::* ''''hyaizon'''....''in every direction'' ==== Examples of Deictic Determiner Usage ==== ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ('''Duhos''' is pronounced '''du-HOS''') ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> se iyta twad?'''....''<u>Who</u> is her husband?'' ::* '''<u>Duhowat</u> se iyta twad?'''....''<u>Which one of the guys</u> is her husband?'' (selective) ::* '''<u>Duhoti</u> fe eker?'''....''<u>Who (pl.)</u> want to play?'' ::* '''<u>Hyas</u> se fia.'''....''<u>Everything</u> is fine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyat</u> tre et.'''....''<u>Everyone</u> knows you.'' ::* '''<u>Hyot</u> tre at.'''....''<u>Nobody</u> knows me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyati</u> ekeye fi.'''....''<u>All of them</u> are playing well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoti</u> ekeye fi.'''....''<u>None of them</u> are playing well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> yafe eker.'''....''<u>Anyone</u> can play.'' ::* '''<u>Hyes</u> yafwe.'''....''<u>Anything</u> is possible.'' ::* '''At fe <u>hyuyenat</u> be ata ekutyan.'''....''I want <u>someone else</u> on my team.'' ::* '''<u>Huuyenati</u> fyuxe yata oj.'''....''<u>Such people</u> harm our future.'' ::* '''Et yefe tepier <u>hiisi</u>.'''....''You must bear in mind <u>the following things</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et xa hus.'''.....''<u>How</u> did you do that?'' (pronounced '''du-ho-YEN''') ::* '''<u>Duavhos</u> iyt pia <u>huugla</u> jwa?'''....''<u>Why</u> did she leave <u>so</u> early?'' ::* '''<u>Hwita</u> tam se ga aga.'''....''<u>This guy's</u> house is bigger.'' ::* '''At voy ayse ha dyuni <u>bi huyti</u>.'''....''I don't have <u>those women's</u> names.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoa</u> tam se etas?'''....''<u>Which</u> house is yours?'' ::* '''<u>Huua</u> tej et ayse!'''....''<u>What a</u> life you have!'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyena</u> dyezuni ifxe et?'''....''<u>What kind of</u> movies do you like?'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> tef okwa?'''....''<u>Whose</u> hat was lost?'' ::* '''<u>Hota</u> tef okwa bese otwas.'''....''<u>Whose</u> hat was lost remains a mystery.'' ::* '''<u>Ha</u> tob ta yata dyuni.'''....''<u>The</u> man knew our names.'' ::* '''<u>Hoyena</u> dini at ife, et ufe.'''....''<u>The kind of</u> stories I love, you hate.'' ::* '''<u>Hea</u> mepi gawdyunxwo.'''....''<u>Certain</u> streets will be renamed.'' ::* '''<u>Heyena</u> fukyes uxaye purilp nyaunx.'''....''<u>Some kind of</u> accident has caused a traffic jam.'' ::* '''<u>Heta</u> abtaf kaxwa be ha zatem.'''.....''<u>Someone's</u> coat was found in the foyer.'' ::* '''<u>Hia</u> dyes se ata gwafwas.'''....''<u>This</u> book is my favorite.'' ::* '''<u>Hiia</u> duni se ofwa.'''....''<u>The following</u> words are prohibited.'' ::* '''<u>Hiiyena</u> axlyen voy afwu.'''....''<u>The following sort of</u> behavior would not be allowed.'' ::* '''<u>Hiyena</u> axlyen voy vayafwo.'''....''<u>This type of</u> behavior will not be tolerated.'' ::* '''<u>Hita</u> tim so yolza.'''....''<u>This person's</u> room will be blue.'' ::* '''<u>Hua</u> mas efwe gawvozilbwer.'''....''<u>That</u> wall needs to be repainted.'' ::* '''<u>Huua</u> dini yufxe tudi.'''....''<u>Such</u> stories scare children.'' ::* '''<u>Huyena</u> duni voy yeyfwe yixwer za at.'''....''<u>Such</u> words should not be used in front of me.'' ::* '''<u>Hwuta</u> tam magseye.'''....''<u>That guy's</u> house is on fire.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoa</u> din se ga kyitesa.'''....''<u>No</u> story is more important.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoyena</u> tes tesiyafwe.'''....''<u>No such</u> meaning can be inferred.'' ::* '''<u>Hyota</u> jatexdras sa ga fia.'''....''<u>Nobody's</u> plan is better.'' ::* '''<u>Hyos</u> oboxe huyt.'''....''<u>Nothing</u> bothers that gal.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> mepi izpe Roma.'''....''<u>All</u> roads lead to Rome.'' ::* '''<u>Hya ha</u> mepi se ebwa.'''....''<u>All the</u> roads are blocked.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> twob yefe xer ita gon.'''....''<u>Every</u> man must do his part.'' ::* '''<u>Hyayena</u> telami ese be hia domep.'''....''<u>All manner of</u> restaurants exist on this street.'' ::* '''<u>Hyata</u> tej se uka bi yaobi.'''....''<u>Everyone's</u> life is full of ups and downs.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaewa</u> domi agsaye.'''....''<u>Both</u> cities have grown.'' ::* '''<u>Hyea</u> voz so fia.'''....''<u>Any</u> color will be fine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeyena</u> til se aysyafwa.'''....''<u>Any kind of</u> drink is available.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeta</u> ved se ge ifa vyel atas.'''....''<u>Anyone's</u> guess is as good as mine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyea</u> tim et fe et yafe ayser.'''....''<u>Whatever</u> room you want, you can have.'' ::* '''<u>Hyia</u>/(Ha gea) fukyesi kyese glaxag.'''....''<u>The same</u> accidents occur frequently.'' ::* '''<u>Hyiyena</u>/(Ha geyena) dyezuni teaxuwa zajub.'''....''<u>The same kind of</u> films were shown yesterday.'' ::* '''<u>Hyita</u>/(Ha geta) dyun yixwa gajod.'''....''<u>The same person's</u> name was used again.'' ::* '''<u>Hyua</u> dyezun sa ga ifuyea.'''....''<u>The other</u> movie was more entertaining.'' ::* '''<u>Hyuyena</u>/(Ogeyena) som teasu ga fia.'''....''<u>Another kind of</u> furniture would look better.'' ::* '''<u>Hyuta</u>/(ogeta) texyen se ge fyia.'''....''<u>Someone else's</u> opinion is equally valid.'' ::* '''Ha dyuni <u>bi hiyti</u> voy dodrawe.'''....''<u>These women's</u> names have not been made public.'' ::* '''Ha dyuni <u>bi hwiiti</u> voy dodrowe.'''....''<u>The following males'</u> names will not be publicized.'' ::* '''<u>Hijaga</u> tobweti voy afwo him.'''....''Boys <u>of this age</u> will not be allowed here.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> et tambese?'''....''<u>Where</u> do you live?'' ::* '''At tambese <u>hum</u>.'''....''I live <u>there</u>.'' ::* '''Et tambese <u>hom</u> ha mep uje.'''....''You live <u>where</u> the road ends.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> yet peye?'''....''<u>Where</u> are you people going?'' ::* '''Et yafe per <u>hyem</u> et fu.'''....''You can go <u>anywhere</u> you would like.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> et byise?'''....''<u>Where</u> are you from?'' (Lit: ''Where do you originate?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoj</u> et taja?'''....''<u>When</u> were you born?'' ::* '''At voy tajaya <u>huj</u>.'''....''I had not been born <u>then</u>.'' ::* '''Et yeyfe duder <u>hiiyen</u>.'''....''You should respond <u>in the following way</u>.'' ::* '''Ot voy yefe daler <u>huuyen</u>.'''....''One must not talk <u>in such a manner</u>.'' ::* '''Et pia <u>hesav</u>.'''....''He left <u>for some reason</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et iyfe hia vifil?'''....''<u>How</u> do like this wine?'' ::* '''Voy se fia axler <u>hiyen</u>.'''....''It is not good to act <u>this way</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duavhos</u> et tadia <u>huugla</u> jwa?'''....''<u>Why</u> did you marry <u>so</u> late?'' ::* '''Ha twob pia <u>avhyos</u>.'''....''The man left <u>for no reason</u>.'' ::* '''Hwat pia <u>avhos van</u> it efa per hem.'''....''The guy left <u>because</u> he needed to go somewhere.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeta</u> texyen so fia.'''....''<u>Anyone</u>'s opinion will be fine.'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> dyes se his?'''....''Whose book is this?'' ::* '''<u>Bi hoti</u> se hia dyesi?'''....''Whose are these books?'' ::* '''<u>Hyata</u> tili yebexe yom.'''....''<u>Everyone's</u> drinks contain ice.'' ::* '''Et se gaj <u>geyenat</u>( ~ <u>hyiyenat</u>).'''....''You are still <u>the same kind of person</u>.'' : The semantic reverser '''o-''' can be prefixed to some of the above deictic determiners: :: '''<u>Ohyat</u> tiste Platon.'''....''<u>Not everyone</u> understands Plato.'' :: '''<u>Ohut!</u>'''....''Not that person!'' :: '''At iyfe gwa apovili, oy <u>ohuas</u>!'''....''I like most beers, but <u>not that one</u>!'' : If the definite article or any other deictic determiner is omitted before a noun, then it has the effect of the English indefinite article ''a / an'' with a singular noun or ''some'' with a plural noun. For example: ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ha tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>a glass</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ha tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>(some) glasses</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>awa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>one glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha awa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the one glass</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>two glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the two glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>hyaewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>both glasses</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>owa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>no/zero glasses (=not a single glass)</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ea tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>another/a second glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ea tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the second glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ea tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>second glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ea tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the second glasses</u> of wine.'' : If an indefinite article sense is needed for clarity, the words '''awa''' (''one'') or '''hea''' (''some, a certain'') can be used, eg.: ::* '''At igteata <u>awa</u> tob yiztyoper.'''....''I glimpsed <u>a</u> man walk by.'' ::* '''Wit zoyupo <u>hea</u> juab.'''....''He will come back on <u>a / a certain / some</u> Monday.'' ==== Selective vs. Non-Selective Forms ==== : The deictic interrogative determiner pronoun '''duhot?''' means ''who(m)'' and contrasts with its '''''selective''''' counterpart '''duhoat?''', which means ''which one?''. All the selective determiners refer to one or more things or persons from a selectable pool of things or persons. : The following sentences illustrate the use of the above determiner pronouns: ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> aka zajuba ek?'''....''<u>Who</u> won yesterday's game?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoat</u> bi ha akuti sa ha gwa fiat?'''....''<u>Which one</u> of the winners was the best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> tam se hus?'''....''<u>Whose</u> house is that?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotas</u> se hus?'''....''<u>Whose</u> is that?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotia</u> deuzi et gaife?'''....''<u>Whose</u> songs do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotias</u> et gaife?'''....''<u>Whose</u> do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* '''<u>Duhosi</u> se eta gaifuni?'''....''<u>What</u> are your preferences?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoa</u> deuzi se eta gwa fiasi?'''....''<u>Which</u> songs are your best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoasi</u> se eta gwa fiasi?'''....''<u>Which ones</u> are your best?'' ::* '''Bi hia deuzuti, <u>hoat</u> et gaife?'''....''Of these vocalists, <u>which one</u> do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Hiiti</u> yaneko hijub.'''....''<u>The following people</u> will compete today.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoati</u> se gwa fia?'''....''<u>Which ones</u> are best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoti</u> et teexe gwa jodi?'''....''<u>Who (all)</u> do you listen to the most often?'' ::* '''<u>Hoat</u> at teexe gwaxag draye ejna deuz.'''....''<u>The one</u> I listen to the most has written a new song.'' ::* '''Ejna deuz? At voy teste <u>hoas</u> et tede.'''....''New song? I don't understand <u>which one</u> you mean.'' ::* '''<u>Hias</u>.'''....''<u>This one</u>.'' ::* '''Vo. <u>Huasi</u> se ga fia.'''....''No. <u>Those</u> are better.'' ::* '''<u>His</u> se jub av ivxelen.'''....''<u>This</u> is a day for celebration.'' ::* '''Va. <u>Hia</u> jub. At tese <u>hi</u>jub.'''....''Yes. <u>This</u> day. I mean <u>To-</u>day.'' ::* '''<u>Husi</u> sa <u>ha</u> jubi, ata dat!'''....''<u>Those</u> were <u>the</u> days, my friend!'' ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> aka ha igpek?'''....''<u>Who</u> won the race?'' ::* '''<u>Hyas</u> uja fi.'''....''<u>Everything</u> ended well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyasi</u> uje.'''....''<u>All things</u> come to an end.'' ::* '''<u>Hyayenasi</u> vey kyesu.'''....''<u>All sorts of things</u> might happen.'' ::* '''<u>Hyos</u> yokxa at.'''....''<u>Nothing</u> surprised me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyot</u> ta hot ako.'''....''<u>Nobody</u> knew who would win.'' ::* '''<u>Hoayti</u> fu pier yefe.'''....''<u>Those females</u> who would like to leave may.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> yefe eker hia ifek.'''....''<u>Anyone</u> can play this game.'' ::* '''<u>Huyenasi</u> voy afwo.'''....''<u>Such things</u> will not be permitted.'' ::* '''<u>Hua twob</u> voy taxe hia toyb.'''....''<u>That</u> man does not remember this woman.'' ::* '''<u>Hwuti</u> yanyexe fi.'''....''<u>Those guys</u> work well together.'' ::* '''<u>Huuyti</u> hyaj yubixe tepzex.'''....''<u>Such females</u> always attract attention.'' ::* '''At jay teataye <u>hiyenasi</u>.'''....''I've seen <u>such things</u> before.'' ::* '''<u>Huyenwat</u> voy vabiwu.'''....''<u>A guy like that</u> would not be accepted.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyenasi</u> weti iyfe xer je ha maj.'''....''<u>What kinds of things</u> do you guys like to do during the day?'' === Numerical Deictic Determiners === : Sometimes, a deictic determiner specifies numerical information. This chart shows those forms: :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Number-incorporating Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! Adjective !! Inanimate Pronoun !! Animate Pronoun !! Pronominal Determiner !! Possessive Pronoun |- | '''hawa'''<sup>1</sup><br> ''the only'' || '''hawas'''<br>''the only thing''<br>'''hawasi'''<br>''the only things'' || '''hawat'''<br>''the only one (person)''<br>'''hawati'''<br>''the only ones''|| '''hawata'''<br>''the only person&apos;s'' || '''hawatas'''<br>''the only one&apos;s''<br>'''hawatasi'''<br>''the only one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyawa'''*<br> ''each'' || '''hyawas'''<br>''each one'' || '''hyawat'''<br>''each person''|| '''hyawata'''<br>''each person&apos;s'' || '''hyawatas'''<br>''each one&apos;s''<br>'''hyawatasi'''<br>''each one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyaewa'''<br>''both'' || '''hyaewasi'''<br>''both (<small>things</small>)'' || '''hyaewati'''<br>''both (<small>people</small>)''|| '''bi hyaewati'''<br>''both person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyaewati'''<br>''both person&apos;s''<br>'''hasi bi hyaewati'''<br>''both persone&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyaiwa'''<br>''all three'' || '''hyaiwasi'''<br>''all three (<small>things</small>)'' || '''hyaiwati'''<br>''all three (<small>people</small>)''|| '''hyaiwata'''<br>''all three person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyaiwati'''<br>''all three person&apos;s''<br>'''hasi bi hyaiwati'''<br>''all three person&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''ohyawa'''<br>''not every'' || '''ohyawas'''<br>''not everything'' || '''ohyawat'''<br>''not everyone''|| '''ohyawata'''<br>''not every person&apos;s'' || '''ohyawatas'''<br>''not everyone&apos;s''<br>'''ohyawatasi'''<br>''not everyone&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyoawa'''<br>''not a single'' || '''hyoawas'''<br>''not a single thing'' || '''hyoawat'''<br>''not a single person''|| '''hyowata'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s'' || '''hyowatas'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s''<br>'''hyowatasi'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyeawa'''<br>''either'' || '''hyeawas'''<br>''either one'' || '''hyeawat'''<br>''either one (<small>person</small>)''|| '''hyeawata'''<br>''either one&apos;s'' || '''hyeawatas'''<br>''either one&apos;s''<br>'''hyeawatasi'''<br>''either one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyeewa'''<br>''any two'' || '''hyeewasi'''<br>''any two things'' || '''hyeewati'''<br>''any two people''|| '''bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two persons&apos;''<br>'''hasi bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two persons&apos; (things)'' |- | '''hyeowa'''<br>''neither'' || '''hyeowas'''<br>''neither one'' || '''hyeowat'''<br>''neither person''|| '''hyeawata'''<br>''neither person&apos;s'' || '''hyeowatas'''<br>''neither one&apos;s''<br>'''hyeowatasi'''<br>''neither one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyuawa'''<br>''another'' || '''hyuawas'''<br>''another one'' || '''hyuawat'''<br>''another''|| '''hyuawata'''<br>''another&apos;s'' || '''hyuawatas'''<br>''another&apos;s''<br>'''hyuawatasi'''<br>''another&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyuowa'''<br>''no other'' || '''hyuowas'''<br>''nothing else'' || '''hyuowat'''<br>''nobody else''|| '''hyuowata'''<br>''no other&apos;s'' || '''hyuowatas'''<br>''no other&apos;s''<br>'''hyuowatasi'''<br>''no other&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''gawa'''<sup>2</sup><br>''another'' || '''gawas'''<br>''another one'' || '''gawat'''<br>''another (person)''|| '''gawata'''<br>''another&apos;s'' || '''gawatas'''<br>''another&apos;s''<br>'''gawatasi'''<br>''another&apos;s (things)'' |} <small> :: Note 1) '''Hawa''' and '''hyawa''' are short for '''haawa''' and '''hyaawa''', respectively. :: Note 2) '''Gawa''' is short for '''ga awa''', ''yet one''. </small> ==== Notes on Numerical Deictic Determiners ==== : Examples using the above number-incorporating deictic determiners: ::* '''<u>Ohyawat</u> se iva bay eta vaod.'''....''<u>Not everyone</u> is happy with your decision.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaewasi</u> yafwe uxler yata efoni.'''....''<u>Both (things)</u> can serve our needs.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeawa</u> tim ivlaxo at.'''....''<u>Either</u> room will satisfy me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowas</u> oivlaxo at.'''....''<u>Neither one</u> will dissatisfy me.'' : Note: ::* '''hyua''' means ''another (an alternative)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hyua</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>another (a different)</u> drink.'' ::* '''hyuawa''' means ''another (an additional)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hyuawa</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>another (an additional)</u> drink.'' ::* '''ha hyua''' means ''the other (the alternative)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>ha hyua</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>the other</u> drink.'' : Similarly, '''hya''' means ''every, all'', while '''hyawa''' means ''each'', and '''hyaha'''....''all the'', ex: ::* '''<u>Hya</u> dom ayse tebixea suni teaxer.'''....''<u>Every</u> city has interesting things to see.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> domi ayse tebixusi.'''....''<u>All</u> cities have things of interest.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaha</u> domi ayse tebixusi.'''....''<u>All the</u> cities have things of interest.'' ::* '''<u>Hyawa</u> dom ayse tebixun.'''....''<u>Each</u> city has something of interest.'' : Also, '''ha''' means ''the'', while '''hawa''' means ''the only'', eg.: ::* '''<u>Ha</u> twob hu at gwa ife se et.'''....''<u>The</u> man I most love is you.'' ::* '''<u>Hawa</u> toyb nazea ata tepzex se et.'''....''<u>The only</u> woman worth my attention is you.'' : By appending '''y''' to '''hawa''', we get the adverb '''haway'''....''only, solely'', eg; ::* '''<u>Haway</u> et nize ata tepzex.'''....''<u>Only</u> you deserve my attention.''. : The singular person pronouns in the above chart can be converted into pronominal determiners by adding the adjective suffix '''a''', eg.: ::* '''<u>Hyawata</u> tej se ge glatesa vyel hyutas.'''....''<u>Each one's</u> life is as important as another's.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowata</u> dyun se vyama.'''....''<u>Neither person's</u> name is real.'' : However, the plural person pronouns in the above chart use the preposition '''bi''' (''of'') to form possessives, eg.: ::* '''Ha teji <u>bi hyaiwati</u> se kyebukuwa.'''....''The lives <u>of all three</u> are in danger.'' : The above singular pronominal determiners can, in turn, be converted into inanimate pronouns with the suffix '''-s'''. ::* '''<u>Hyawatas</u> se glatesa.'''....''<u>Each one's</u> is important.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowatas</u> se vyama.'''....''<u>Neither's</u> is real.'' : The plural pronominal determiners can be nominalized with the use of '''bi''', eg: ::* '''<u>Hyaiwasi</u> <u>bi huti</u> se kyebukuwa.'''....''<u>All three</u> <u>of theirs'</u> are in danger.'' : Correlative Number-incorporating Deictic Determiners are handled as follows: ::* '''Hyeawa A ey B'''....''either A or B'' ::* '''Hyeowa A oy B'''....''neither A nor B'' ::* '''Hyaewa A ay B'''....''both A and B'' ::* '''Hawa A, voy B'''....''only A, not B'' : The different, somewhat confusing, meanings of ''how'' are illustrated here: ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> wit xa hus?'''....''<u>How</u> did he do that?''.... (Equivalent to '''Be duha byen...?'''....''In what way...?'') (ADVERB OF MANNER) ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et xeye?'''....''<u>How</u> are you doing?''.... (This is the normal way of saying ''How are you?'' or ''How do you do?'' (ADVERB OF MANNER) ::* '''<u>Duhoyena</u> sa ha dyezun?'''....'' <u>How</u> was the film?''.... (''How'' here is an ADJECTIVE OF KIND, and thus ends in '''-a'''.) ::* '''<u>Duhonog (= Duhogla)</u> aga it se?'''....''<u>How</u> big is he?''.... (ADVERB OF DEGREE) ::* '''<u>Huunog (= Huugla)</u> iyfla et se!'''....''<u>How</u> nice you are!''.... (ADVERB OF EMPHATIC DEGREE) : The conjunction ''as'' is expressed most often using relative pro-adverbs of manner: ::* '''Xu <u>hoyen</u> at de.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I say.'' = (in) the way that... ::* '''Xu <u>hyiyen</u>''' (~ '''geyen''') '''at xe.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I do. ( = (in) the same way that...)'' ::* '''Xu <u>hiiyen</u>:'''....''Do <u>as follows</u>. ( = (in) this hereby manner...)'' : However, the preposition/conjunction '''gel''' (''like, as'') can be substituted: ::* '''Xu <u>gel</u> at de.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I say.'' : Many of the determiner adverbs in the above chart can be used in relative clauses, eg: ::* '''At teato et <u>hoj</u> et puo him.'''....''I will see you <u>when</u> you get here.'' ::* '''It xa has <u>avhos van</u> tosa yefa.'''....''He did it <u>because (for the reason that)</u> he felt compelled.'' ::* '''<u>Hyem</u> et po, et so ga iva.'''....''<u>Wherever</u> you go, you'll be happier.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> te ha did, yabu eta tuyab.'''....''<u>Whoever</u> knows the answer, raise your hand.'' ::* '''At te <u>hoyen</u> et xa is.'''....''I know <u>how</u> you did it.'' : See more about this in the section on [[Mirad_Grammar/Syntax#Relative_Clauses|relative clauses under Syntax]]. === Pronominal Deictic Determiners === : Some words in Mirad incorporate deictic prefixes with pronouns and pronominal adjectives, as shown in the following chart: {{small/top}} :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size;smaller;" |+ Pronominal Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! colspan=3 | Pronoun |- ! 1st Person Plural !! 2nd Person Plural !! 3rd Person Plural |- | '''duhoyat'''<br>''which of us'' || '''duhoyet'''<br>''which of you'' || '''duhoyit'''<br>''which of them'' |- | '''heyat'''<br>''some of us'' || '''heyet'''<br>''some of you'' || '''heyit'''<br>''which of them'' |- | '''hyayat'''<br>''each of us'' || '''hyayet'''<br>''each of you'' || '''hyayit'''<br>''each of them'' |- | '''hyeyat'''<br>''any of us'' || '''hyeyet'''<br>''any of you'' || '''hyeyit'''<br>''any of them'' |- | '''hyoyat'''<br>''none of us'' || '''hyoyet'''<br>''none of you'' || '''hyoyit'''<br>''none of them'' |- ! colspan=3 | Pronominal Adjective |- ! 1st Person (Plural) !! 2nd Person (Plural) !! 3rd Person (Plural) |- | '''duhoyata'''<br>''which of our'' || '''duhoyet'''<br>''which of your'' || '''duhoyita'''<br>''which of their'' |- | '''heyata'''<br>''some of our'' || '''heyeta'''<br>''some of your'' || '''heyita'''<br>''which of their'' |- | '''hyayata'''<br>''each of our'' || '''hyayeta'''<br>''each of your'' || '''hyayita'''<br>''each of their'' |- | '''hyeyata'''<br>''any of our'' || '''hyeyeta'''<br>''any of your'' || '''hyeyita'''<br>''any of their'' |- ! colspan=3 | Singular/(Plural) Possessive Pronoun |- ! 1st Person (Plural) !! 2nd Person (Plural) !! 3rd Person (Plural) |- | '''duhoyatas(i)'''<br>''which of ours'' || '''duhoyetas(i)'''<br>''which of yours'' || '''duhoyitas(i)'''<br>''which of theirs'' |- | '''heyatas(i)'''<br>''some of ours'' || '''heyetas(i)'''<br>''some of yours'' || '''heyitas(i)'''<br>''which of theirs'' |- | '''hyayatas(i)'''<br>''each of ours'' || '''hyayetas(i)'''<br>''each of yours'' || '''hyayitas(i)'''<br>''each of theirs'' |- | '''hyeyatas(i)'''<br>''any of ours'' || '''hyeyetas(i)'''<br>''any of yours'' || '''hyeyitas(i)'''<br>''any of theirs'' |- | '''hyoyatas(i)'''<br>''none of ours'' || '''hyoyetas(i)'''<br>''none of yours'' || '''hyoyitas(i)'''<br>''none of theirs'' |} {{small/end}} : The above possessive pronouns refer to things. If you replace the final '''-s''' or '''-si''', to '''-t''' or '''-ti''', then they become animate and refer to people, eg.: ::* '''Ese ewa tudi him. Duhoyitas se his?'''....''There are two children here. Which one of theirs is this?'' : All of the forms in the above chart can also be expressed as separate words, eg.: ::* '''Duhoyet?'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Duhoat bi yet?'''....''Which one of you?'' ::* '''Hyayat'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaglati bi yet'''....''All of us.'' ::* '''Hyoyatasi'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyogla yatasi'''....''All of ours (things)'' Note: ::* '''Awayat'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Awat bi yat'''....''one of us'' ::* '''Hyaewayet'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaewat bi yet'''....''both of you'' ::* '''Hyaiwayit'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaiwat bi yit'''....''all three of them'' === Quantitative Deictic Determiners === : The deictic prefixes can be combined with '''gla''' to form quantitative expressions acting as adverbial or adjectival determiners, and substantives (pronouns referring to things or people): {{small/top}} :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size;smaller;" |+ Quantitative Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! !! Adverbial / Adjectival<br>Determiner !! Inanimate Singular<br>Pronoun !! Inanimate Plural <br>Pronoun !! Animate Plural<br>Pronoun |- !row=1|Interrogative | '''duhogla?'''<br>''how?/how much?/how many?'' || '''duhoglas?'''<br>''how much?'' || '''duhoglasi?'''<br>''how many'' || '''duhoglati?'''<br>''how many (people)?'' |- !row=1|Relative | '''hogla'''<br>''as many/much'' || '''hoglas'''<br>''how much'' || '''duhoglasi'''<br>''how many'' || '''duhoglati'''<br>''how many (as)'' |- !row=1|Definite | '''hagla'''<br>''how/as much/as many'' || '''haglas'''<br>''as much'' || '''haglasi'''<br>''as many'' || '''haglati'''<br>''as many (people)'' |- !row=1|Indefinite | '''hegla'''<br>''somewhat/some/some'' || '''heglas'''<br>''some'' || '''heglasi'''<br>''some'' || '''heglati'''<br>''some (people)'' |- !row=1|Proximal | '''higla'''<br>''this/this much/this many'' || '''higlas'''<br>''this much'' || '''higlasi'''<br>''this many'' || '''higlati'''<br>''this many (people)'' |- !row=1|Distal | '''hugla'''<br>''that/that much/that many'' || '''huglas'''<br>''that much'' || '''huglasi'''<br>''that many'' || '''huglati'''<br>''that many (people)'' |- !row=1|Intensive | '''huugla'''<br>''so very, so much, so many'' || '''huuglas'''<br>''so much'' || '''huuglasi'''<br>''so many'' || '''huuglati'''<br>''so many (people)'' |- !row=1|Negative | '''hyogla'''<br>''none, not very'' || '''hyoglas'''<br>''none of it'' || '''hyoglasi'''<br>''none of them '' || '''hyoglati'''<br>''none'' |- !row=1|Distributive | '''hyagla'''<br>''totally/all/all'' || '''hyaglas'''<br>''all of it'' || '''hyaglasi'''<br>''all of them'' || '''hyaglati'''<br>''all'' |- !row=1|Indeterminate | '''hyegla'''<br>''however/any/any'' || '''hyeglas'''<br>''any of it'' || '''hyeglasi'''<br>''any of them'' || '''hyeglati'''<br>''any number of them'' |- !row=1|Identical | '''hyigla'''<br>''as/as much/as many, equally'' || '''hyiglas'''<br>''the same amount'' || '''hyiglasi'''<br>''the same number'' || '''hyiglati'''<br>''as many (people)'' |- !row=1|Non-identical | '''hyugla'''<br>''not as much/not as much/not as many'' || '''hyuglas'''<br>''a different amount'' || '''hyuglasi'''<br>''a different number of things'' || '''hyuglati'''<br>''a different number of people'' |} {{Small/end}} : Here are some examples showing how these quantitative determiners are used: ::* '''Et deuze <u>huugla</u> fi.'''....''You sing <u>so</u> well.'' ::* '''At se <u>hegla</u> booka.'''....''I am <u>somewhat</u> tired.'' ::* '''<u>Duhogla</u> pati et teata hijub?'''....''<u>How many</u> birds did you see today?'' ::* '''At teata vyavay <u>hugla</u> tami.'''....''I saw exactly <u>that many</u> houses.'' ::* '''Iyt fe <u>hyiglas</u> vyel et.'''....''She wants <u>the same amount</u> as you.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoglati</u> yantexe yet?'''....''<u>How many (people)</u> agree with you?'' ::* '''<u>Hyoglati</u> yantexe.'''....''<u>None</u> agree.'' ::* '''Yit fu <u>heglasi</u>.'''....''They would like <u>some (of them)</u>.'' ::* '''Et yafe bier <u>hyeglasi</u> et fe.'''....''You can take <u>however many</u> you want.'' ::* '''Besu bay at <u>hogla</u> job et fe.'''....''Stay <u>as</u> long with me as you want.'' ::* '''At se <u>huugla</u> booka.'''....''I am <u>so</u> tired.'' : NOTE: The following determiners are synonymous and interchangeable: ::* '''hegla''' = '''gle''' = '''henog''' (''somewhat, to some degree'') ::* '''hyigla''' = '''ge''' = '''hyinog''' (''as, equally, to the same degree'') : The determiner ''huugla'' can be used as an exclamatory adverb, eg.: ::* '''<u>Huugla</u> et agsaye!'''....''<u>How</u> you have grown!'' ::* '''Hua twob jagsaye <u>huugla</u>!'''....''That man has aged <u>so much</u>!'' ::* '''Hia jotul se <u>huugla</u> fiteluza!'''....''This dessert is <u>sooo</u> delicious!'' == Pronominal Determiners == : Pronominal Determiners are what are more often called '''''possessive adjectives''''' such as ''my'' or ''your'' and are discussed in a subsection of [[Mirad Grammar/Pronouns#Pronominal Determiners|Pronouns]]. == Quantitative Determiners == : '''''Quantitative determiners''''' act in one of several ways, they: ::* specify mass, uncountable, singular nouns for relative AMOUNT, eg. ''much happiness, less work'' ::* specify countable nouns for relative NUMBER, eg. ''one apple, two birds, many places'' ::* specify adverbs, adjectives, and verbs for relative DEGREE, eg. ''how poorly, very good, eat too much''. : From these, pronominalized quantitative determiners for PERSONS and THINGS can be derived. ::* Inanimate singular pronouns are formed by adding '''s''' for AN AMOUNT OF A THING ::* Inanimate plural pronouns are formed by adding '''si''' for A NUMBER OF THINGS ::* Animate plural pronouns are formed by adding '''ti''' for A NUMBER OF PERSONS. : The following table presents most of these word forms (Note that the determiners are in a plus (+), equal (=), or minus (-) row.): {| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; margin-left:1.6em; font-size:smaller;" |+ Quantitative Determiners |- !colspan=2|Adverb / Adjective !! Singular Pronoun !!colspan=2| Plural Pronoun |- !colspan=2|Degree/Amount/Number !! Amount !! Number of Things !! Number of People |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''ga'''....''more'' || '''gas'''....''more (stuff)'' || '''gasi'''....''many (things)'' || '''gati'''....''many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''ge'''....''as, as much, as many'' || '''ges'''....''as much (stuff)'' || '''gesi'''....''as many (things)'' || '''geti'''....''as many people'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''go'''....''less, fewer'' || '''gos'''....''less (stuff)'' || '''gosi'''....''fewer (things)'' || '''goti'''....''fewer (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gla'''....''very, much, many''<br>'''glay'''....''so, so much, so many''<br>'''glaa'''....''several'' || '''glas'''....''much (stuff)''<br>'''glays'''....''so much stuff'') || '''glasi'''....''many (things)''<br>'''glaysi'''....''so many (things)''<br>'''glaasi'''....''several things''|| '''glati'''....''many (people)''<br>'''glayti'''....''so many (people)''<br>'''glaati'''....''several people'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gle'''....''rather, quite a lot, quite a few'' || '''gles'''....''quite a lot (of stuff)'' || '''glesi'''....''quite a lot (of things)'' || '''gleti'''....''quite a few (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''glo'''....''slightly, a little, few'' || '''glos'''....''a little bit'' || '''glosi'''....''a few (things)'' || '''gloti'''....''few (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gra'''....''too, too much, too many'' || '''gras'''....''too much (stuff)'' || '''grasi'''....''too many (things)'' || '''grati'''....''too many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gre'''....''enough'' || '''gres'''....''enough (stuff)'' || '''gresi'''....''enough (things)'' || '''greti'''....''enough (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''gro'''....''insufficiently, too little, too few'' || '''gros'''....''too little'' || '''grosi'''....''too few'' || '''groti'''....''too few (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gwa'''....''most'' || '''gwas'''....''the most (stuff)'' || '''gwasi'''....''the most (things)'' || '''gwati'''....''most people'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gwe'''....''just so (much/many)'' || '''gwes'''....''just so much'' || '''gwesi'''....''just so many'' || '''gweti'''....''just so many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''gwo'''....''least'' || '''gwos'''....''the least (stuff)'' || '''gwosi'''....''the least (number of)'' || '''gwoti'''....''the least number (of people)'' |} : Examples Using Graded Quantitative Determiners :: Adverbs of degree modifying an adjective: :::* '''At se <u>gla</u> iva.'''....''I am <u>very</u> happy.'' :::* '''Et sa <u>gra</u> uga.'''....''You were <u>too</u> slow.'' :: Adverbs of Degree modifying another adverb: :::* '''Twobi dale <u>ge</u> igay vyel toybi.'''....''Men talk <u>as</u> fast as women.'' :::* '''Yat yexe <u>ga igay</u> vyel yet.'''....''We work faster (= <u>more quickly</u>) than you.'' :: Adjectives quantifying a singular mass noun: :::* '''<u>Ga</u> nas efwo.'''....''<u>More</u> money will be needed.'' :::* '''<u>Gra</u> nas noxwa.'''....''<u>Too much</u> money was spent.'' :: Adjectives quantifying a plural countable noun (= things or people): :::* '''At ayse <u>gro</u> sari.'''....''I've got <u>too few</u> tools.'' :::* '''<u>Gla</u> tami osexwa.'''....''<u>Many</u> houses were destroyed.'' :::* '''Yat efe <u>gla ga</u> valkdibuti.'''....''We need <u>many more</u> policemen.'' :: Pronouns referring to a mass amount of something (= stuff): :::* '''<u>Gas</u> ilokeye.'''....''<u>More (stuff)</u> is leaking.'' :::* '''Et dileye <u>gras</u>.'''....''You are asking for <u>too much (stuff)</u>.'' :::* '''Yat kexo <u>gwas</u>.'''....''We will seek <u>as much (stuff) as possible</u>.'' :::* '''At iba <u>gwes</u>.'''....''I received <u>just the right amount.</u>'' :: Pronouns referring to a countable number of things: :::* '''Hisi se fia oy yat fe <u>gasi</u>.'''....''These (items) are good but we want <u>more (items)</u>.'' :::* '''At teate drilari oy <u>grosi</u>.'''....''I see pens, but <u>too few</u>.'' :: Pronouns referring to a countable number of people: :::* '''<u>Grati</u> xaye vyoki be hia yexem.'''....''<u>Too many (people)</u> have made mistakes at this work site.'' :::* '''<u>Glati</u> dyunwe oy <u>gloti</u> kebiwe.'''....''<u>Many</u> are called but <u>few</u> are chosen.'' == Numerical Determiners == : This category of determiners, which includes cardinal, ordinal and other number words like ''two'', ''a tenth'', and ''first'', is such a vast topic that it is treated in its own chapter [[Mirad_Grammar/Numbers]] <noinclude>{{Chapter navigation with TOC|Adverbs|Numbers}}</noinclude> 0gielnqnxeiska4ahdj6pkx2fwznxxm 4520830 4520821 2025-07-01T18:51:42Z Tyoyafud 6233 /* Deictic Determiner Adverbs */ 4520830 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>{{status|100%}}</noinclude> : Determiners are words that specify or point out the context of nouns and other parts of speech. The English determiner ''this'', for example, specifies a noun for its proximity to the current context. In English, demonstrative pronouns/adjectives/adverbs, possessive pronouns/adjectives, quantifiers like ''more'' and ''very'', and numeric expressions like ''both'' fall under this category. == Types of Determiners == : Determiners in Mirad fall into the following categories: ::{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Types of Determiners |- ! Type !! Also Known As !! English Examples |- !row=1| Deictic | Demonstrative Pronouns/Adjectives/Adverbs || ''the'', ''this'', ''some'', ''every'', ''which?'', ''when'' |- !row=1| Pronominal | Possessive Pronouns/Adjectives | ''my'', ''anybody&apos;s'', ''one&apos;s own'' |- !row=1| Quantitative | Quantifiers || ''more'', ''less'', ''very'' |- !row=1| Numerical | Numerals/Fractions/Ordinals/Dates, etc. || ''one'', ''half'', ''first'' |} : Furthermore, as for part of speech, determiners can be adjectives, pronouns, or adverbs. As adjectives, determiners can itemize or classify. As pronouns, they can refer to one or more persons (male or female) or things. As adverbs, they can specify circumstance, i.e. time, place, degree, kind, age, frequency, and so forth. == Deictic Determiners == : '''''Deictic determiners''''' are words which point out or ''specify'' other words as to their context, including what grammarians often call '''''demonstratives'''''. All deictic determiners in Mirad begin with the letter '''h'''. The letters following the '''h''' indicate the grammatical and semantic category. : Deictic determiners include the following traditional grammatical categories: <div style="background: lightyellow"> ::* '''''Demonstrative adjectives ''''' like ''this'', ''that'', ''those'', ''that one'' ::* '''''The definite article''''' ''the ''&nbsp;&nbsp; (which is really a '''''demonstrative adjective''''' like those above.) ::* '''''Demonstrative pronouns''''' like ''this'', ''that'', ''those'', ''that one'' ::* '''''Interrogative and relative pronouns''''' like ''who, which, that'' ::* '''''Indefinite adjectives''''' like ''any'', ''some'', ''all'', ''something'', ''such'', etc. ::* '''''Indefinite pronouns''''' like ''any'', ''some'', ''all'', ''something'', ''such'', etc. ::* '''''Pronouns, adjectives, and adverbs of quantity''''' like ''so much'', ''that many'', ''how many?'', ''very'', etc. ::* '''''Adverbs of circumstance:''''' :::* '''''time''''' like ''when'', ''now'', ''ever'' :::* '''''place''''' like ''there'', ''here'', ''somewhere'' :::* '''''manner''''' like ''how'', ''thus'', ''somehow'' :::* '''''kind''''' like ''so'', age ''this year old'' :::* '''''direction''''' like ''that way'', ''any which way'' :::* '''''reason''''' ''why?'', ''for that reason'', ''for no reason'' :::* '''''degree''''' ''this (well)'', ''so (good)'', ''how (bad)'' :::* '''''frequency''''' like ''how often'', ''so often'', ''never'' :::* '''''age''''' like ''this old'', ''how old?'', ''of any age'' </div> === Deictic Prefixes === [[File:Deixis (DE).png|thumb|none]] : There is a whole set of '''''correlative deictic prefixes''''', which are joined to circumstantial stub category suffixes to derive pronoun, adjective, and adverb determiners. In some grammars, these words are called ''wh-question words and their pointed answers''. For example, QUESTION: <u>Who</u> is your wife? ANSWER: <u>This</u> is my wife. (or) QUESTION: <u>Where</u> is your house? ANSWER: My house is <u>here</u>. These word forms are called correlative because they relate to one another in way that can be mapped to a table. : Here are the Mirad deictic classification prefixes: :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Deictic Prefixes |- ! Classification !! Deictic Prefix |- ! scope="row" | Interrogative | '''duho-...?'''....''what?, which?'' |- ! scope="row" | Relative | '''ho-'''....''which, that'' |- ! scope="row" | Exclamatory | '''hoo-'''....''how...!'' |- ! scope="row" | Definite | '''ha-'''....''the'' |- ! scope="row: | Indefinite | '''he-'''....''some, a certain'' |- ! scope="row" | Proximal | '''hi-'''....''this, these'' |- ! scope="row" | Immediate | '''hii-'''....''the following'' |- ! scope="row" | Distal | '''hu-'''....''that, those'' |- ! scope="row" | Intensive | '''huu-'''....''such, so, what a...!'' |- ! scope="row" | Distributive | '''hya-'''....''every, all, each'' |- ! scope="row" | Indeterminate | '''hye-'''....''any, whatever'' |- ! scope="row" | Negative | '''hyo-'''....''no, not any'' |- ! scope="row | Identical | '''hyi-'''....''the same, the very'' |- ! scope="row" | Non-identical | '''hyu-'''....''the other, another, else'' |} : Note: The Identical ('''hyi-''') and Non-identical prefixes ('''hyu-''') can optionally be substituted with '''ge-''' (''same'') and '''oge-''' (different), respectively. === Circumstantial Category Suffixes === : The table below shows word stub suffixes that indicate the circumstantial category of deictic expressions. They are called stubs, because they are reduced word forms. The combination of deictic prefixes and circumstantial stub suffixes produce a matrix of deictic '''''correlatives''''', seen later in this chapter. Use of the stub instead of the long form is a matter of optional economy. A few categories do not have stubs. :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Category Stubs |- ! Category !! Stub Suffix !! Long Form !! Short Question Form || Long Question Form |- ! row=1| Person | '''-t''' || '''<u>t</u>ob'''....''person'' || '''duhot?'''....''who?''|| '''duhotob?''' |- ! row=1| Thing | '''-s''' ||'''<u>s</u>un'''....''thing'' || '''duhos?'''....''what?''|| '''duhosun?''' |- ! row=1| Place | '''-m''' ||'''ne<u>m</u>'''....''place'' || '''duhom?'''....''where?''|| '''duhonem?''' |- ! row=1| Time | '''-j''' ||'''<u>j</u>ob'''....''time'' || '''duhoj?'''....''when?''|| '''duhojob?''' |- ! row=1| Manner | '''-yen''' ||'''b<u>yen</u>'''....''manner'' || '''duhoyen?'''....''how?''||'''duhobyen?''' |- ! row=1| Kind | '''-yena''' ||'''sauna</u>'''....''kind of'' || '''duhoyena?'''....''what kind of?''||'''duhosauna?''' |- ! row=1| Degree | '''-gla''' ||'''nog'''....''degree'' || '''duhogla (fi)?'''....''how (well)?''||'''duhonog?''' |- ! row=1| Number | '''-gla''' ||'''sag'''....''number'' || '''duhogla (pati)?'''....''how many (birds)?''||'''duhosag?''' |- ! row=1| Mass Quantity | '''-gla''' ||'''glan'''....''amount'' || '''duhogla (mil)?'''....''how much (water)?''||'''duhoglan?''' |- ! row=1| Frequency | ||'''xag'''....''frequency''|| '''duhoxag?'''....''how often?''|| -- |- ! row=1| Reason | '''-avhos''' || '''av hosun'''....''reason'' || '''duavhos?'''....''why?''|| '''duavhosun?''' |- ! row=1| Age | ||'''jaga'''....''of age'' || '''duhojaga?'''....''how old?''|| -- |} : There can be other circumstantial categories other than those listed above, such as "direction", "order", etc. eg. '''Duhomep wit pa?'''....''Which way did he go?''. === Charts of Correlative Deictic Determiners === : Here is are three tables showing the matrix of correlative deictic determiners. Note that the determiners belong to three parts of speech, 1) adjectives, 2) pronouns, and 3) adverbs: :{| class="wikitable" font-size:smaller style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |- ! Part of Speech !! Ending |- | Adjective || '''-a''' |- | Pronoun || '''-t(i)''', '''-s(i)''' |- | Adverb || (no ending) |} ==== Deictic Determiner Adjectives ==== : All deictic determiner adjectives end in '''-a''' and are used to modify nouns. :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Adjectives |- valign=top ! !! Selective<br>-a!! Possessive<br>-ta !! Kind/Manner<br>-yena !! Quantity<br>-gla !! Age<br>-jaga |- ! Interrogative |'''duhoa?'''<br>''which?''||'''duhota?'''<br>''whose?''|| '''duhoyena?'''<br>''what kind of?''||'''duhogla?'''<br>''how much/many?'' ||'''duhojaga?'''<br>''how old?'' |- valign=top ! Relative |'''hoa'''<br>''which''||'''hota'''<br>''whose''|| '''hoyena'''<br>''what kind of''||'''hogla'''<br>''how much/many'' ||'''hojaga'''<br>''how old'' |- valign=top ! Exclamatory |'''hooa'''<br>''what a...!''|| || ||'''hoogla'''<br>''look how much/many...!'' ||'''hoojaga'''<br>''how old a...!'' |- valign=top ! Definite |'''ha'''<sup>1</sup><br>''the''||'''hatas'''<br>''the person’s''|| '''hayena'''<br>''of the kind''||'''hagla'''<br>''of the amount'' ||'''hajaga'''<br>''of the age'' |- valign=top ! Indefinite |'''hea'''<br>''some/a certain''||'''heta'''<br>''someone's''|| '''heyena'''<br>''some kind of''||'''hegla'''<br>''some'' ||'''hejaga'''<br>''somewhat old'' |- valign=top ! Proximal |'''hia'''<br>''this''||'''hita'''<br>''this person’s''|| '''hiyena'''<br>''this kind of''||'''higla'''<br>''this much'' ||'''hijaga'''<br>''this old'' |- valign=top ! Immdediate |'''hiia'''<br>''the following''||'''hiita'''<br>''the follow person’s''|| '''hiiyena'''<br>''the following kind of'' || '''hiigla'''<br>''to the following degree'' ||'''hiijaga'''<br>''of the following age'' |- valign=top ! Distal |'''hua'''<br>''that''||'''huta'''<br>''that person’s''|| '''huyena'''<br>''that kind of'' ||'''hugla'''<br>''that much/many'' ||'''hujaga'''<br>''of that age'' |- valign=top ! Intensive |'''huua'''<br>''such a''||'''huuta'''<br>''such a person’s''|| '''huuyena'''<br>''such kind of'' ||'''huugla'''<br>''so much/many'' ||'''huujaga'''<br>''of such an age'' |- valign=top ! Negative |'''hyoa'''<br>''no''||'''hyota'''<br>''nobody’s''|| '''hyoyena'''<br>''no kind of'' ||'''hyogla'''<br>''no amount/number of'' ||'''hyojaga'''<br>''of no age'' |- valign=top ! Distributive |'''hya'''<sup>1</sup><br>''every, all''||'''hyata'''<br>''everybody’s''|| '''hyayena'''<br>''every kind of'' ||'''hyagla'''<br>''all'' ||'''hyajaga'''<br>''of every age'' |- valign=top ! Indeterminate |'''hyea'''<br>''whichever/any''<sup>2</sup>||'''hyeta'''<br>''whosever''|| '''hyeyena'''<br>''whatever/any kind of'' ||'''hyegla'''<br>''however much/many'' ||'''hyejaga'''<br>''however old'' |- valign=top ! Identical |'''hyia'''<br>''the same''||'''hyita'''<br>''the same person’s''|| '''hyiyena'''<br>''the same kind of'' ||'''hyigla'''<br>''just as'' ||'''hyijaga'''<br>''just as old'' |- valign=top ! Non-identical |'''hyua'''<br>''the other''||'''hyuta'''<br>''someone else's''|| '''hyuyena'''<br>''another kind of'' ||'''hyugla'''<br>''not as much/many'' ||'''hyujaga'''<br>''of another age'' |} : There are other adjectival determiners such as '''duhonoga'''....''how/to what degree'', '''duhosauna'''....''what kind of'' that are not included in the above chart. :Note 1) The determiners '''ha''' (''the'') and '''hya''' (''every'') are shortened forms of '''haa''' and '''hyaa'''. Also, '''ha''' is commonly called a "definite article". ::* While '''hya''' means ''every'' or ''all'', the word '''hyawa''' is used for ''each''. ::* The possessive adjective forms in the above table ending in '''-ta''' such as '''hyeta'''....''whosever'' cannot be pluralized by the ending '''-tia'''. To say '''other people's''', use the expression '''bi hyuti''' (Lit. ''of others''). ::* The '''ho-''' words are relative, meaning that they can serve to form relative clauses like the following: :::* '''Ha toyb, <u>hota</u> twad se Bill,'''....''The woman, <u>whose</u> husband is Bill,'' :::* '''At voy te <u>hos</u> et tepfe.'''....''I don't know <u>what</u> you mean.'' :::* '''At teste <u>hogla</u> et fie iyt.'''....''I understand <u>how much</u> you love her.'' ::* The '''hoo-''' words are exclamatory and are used in expressions like the following: :::* '''<u>Hoogla</u> iva se at van et upa!'''....''<u>How</u> glad I am that you came!'' :::* '''<u>Hooa</u> jub his saye!'''....''<u>What a</u> day this has been!'' ('''Hooa''' is pronounced ''ho-O-a'' as three syllables.) :Note 2) The indeterminant determiners can also be translated with ''no matter what, no matter where, etc.'' ==== Deictic Determiner Pronouns ==== : All deictic determiner pronouns end either in '''-t''' for persons or '''-s''' for things. They can be singular or plural ('''-i'''). :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Pronouns |- valign=top ! !! Thing -s<br>Things -si !! Person -t<br>Persons -ti !! Kind of Thing -yenas<br>Kinds of Things -yenasi !! Amount -glas<br>Number of Things -glasi !! Number of People -glati |- valign=center ! Interrogative |'''duhos?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what?''<br>'''duhosi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what (things)?''|| '''duhot?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who?''<br>'''duhoti?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who (pl.)''|| '''duhoyenas?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what kind of thing?'' <br>'''duhoyenasi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;what kinds of things?|| '''duhoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how much?''<br>'''duhoglasi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many things?''|| '''duhoglati?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many people?'' |- valign=center ! Relative |'''hos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what''<br>'''hosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what''|| '''hot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who''<br>'''hoti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who''|| '''hoyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what kind of thing'' <br>'''hoyenasi'''|| '''hoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how much''<br>'''hoglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many''|| '''hoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many'' |- ! Exclamatory |'''hoos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a thing!''<br>'''hoosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what things!''|| '''hoot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a person!''<br>'''hooti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what people!''|| || '''hooglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what an amount!''<br>'''hooglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a number!''|| '''hoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a number of people!'' |- valign=center ! Definite |'''has'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''it''<br>'''hasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''they/them''|| '''hat'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''he/she/him/her''<br>'''hati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''they/them''|| '''hayenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the king of thing''<br>'''hayenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the kind of things''|| '''haglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the amount'' <br>'''haglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the number of things''|| '''haglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the number of people'' |- valign=center ! Indefinite |'''hes'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''something''<br>'''hesi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some things''|| '''het'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''someone''<br>'''heti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some''|| '''heyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some kind of thing'' <br>'''heyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some kinds of thing''|| '''heglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some''<br>'''heglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some things''|| '''heglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some people'' |- valign=center ! Proximal |'''his'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this''<br>'''hisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these''|| '''hit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this person''<br>'''hiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these people''|| '''hiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this kind of thing'' <br>'''hiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these kinds of things''|| '''higlas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this much''<br>'''higlasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this many''|| '''higlati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this many people'' |- valign=center ! Immediate |'''hiis'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following thing''<br>'''hiisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following things''|| '''hiit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following person''<br>'''hiiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following people''|| '''hiiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following kind of thing'' <br>'''hiiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following kinds of things''|| '''hiiglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following amount''<br>'''hiiglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this following number of things''|| '''hiiglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following number of people'' |- valign=center ! Distal |'''hus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that''<br>'''husi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those''|| '''hut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that person''<br>'''huti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those people''|| '''huyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that kind of thing'' <br>'''huyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those kinds of things''|| '''huglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that much''<br>'''huglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that many''|| '''huglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that many people'' |- valign=center ! Intensive |'''huus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a thing''<br>'''huusi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such things''|| '''huut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a person''<br>'''huuti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such people''|| '''huuyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a kind of thing'' <br>'''huuyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such kinds of things''|| '''huuglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so much''<br>'''huuglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so many''|| '''huuglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so many people'' |- valign=center ! Negative |'''hyos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''nothing''<br>'''hyosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none of them''|| '''hyot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''nobody''<br>'''hyoti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none of them''|| '''hyoyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''no kind of thing'' <br>'''hyoyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''no kinds of things''|| '''hyoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none''<br>'''hyoglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none''|| '''hyoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none'' |- valign=center ! Distributive |'''hyas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''everything''<br>'''hyasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyat'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''everybody''<br>'''hyati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyayenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''every kind of'' <br>'''hyayenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all kinds of things''|| '''hyaglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of it''<br>'''hyaglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyaglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them'' |- valign=center ! Indeterminate |'''hyes'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''anything''<br>'''hyesi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any''|| '''hyet'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''anybody''<br>'''hyeti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of them''|| '''hyeyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any kind of'' <br>'''hyeyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''whatever things''|| '''hyeglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of it''<br>'''hyeglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of them''|| '''hyeglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''whoever'' |- valign=center ! Identical |'''hyis'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same thing''<br>'''hyisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same things''|| '''hyit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same person''<br>'''hyiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same people''|| '''hyiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same kind of'' <br>'''hyiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same kinds of things''|| '''hyiglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as much''<br>'''hyiglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as many''|| '''hyiglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as many people'' |- valign=center ! Non-identical |'''hyus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''something else''<br>'''hyusi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other things''|| '''hyut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''someone else''<br>'''hyuti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other people''|| '''hyuyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another kind'' <br>'''hyuyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other kinds''|| '''hyuglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another amount''<br>'''hyuglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another number of things''|| '''hyuglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another number of people'' |} : Concerning the above chart, note the following: ::* The interrogative determiners all begin with '''duho-''', which means '''say which''', and are technically imperatives. '''Duhom?''', for example, means '''Tell (me) the place...'''. The '''o'''-stem forms without the '''du-''' are used as relative clause heads, eg. '''At po <u>hom</u> et po.'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''I will go <u>where</u> you go.'' ::* Interrogatives usually come at the beginning of a sentence as in English, eg. '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* Determiners come first before any other epithets of a noun, eg. '''<u>Hia</u> aga jaga tam...'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''<u>This</u> big old house...''. ::* Person and Thing determiners can be made selective by inserting '''a''' before the final '''t''' or '''s''', eg. '''Duhot?''' means ''Who?'', while '''Duhoat?''' means ''Which one (of several persons)?'' ==== Deictic Determiner Adverbs ==== : All deictic determiner adverbs refer to a circumstance. :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Adverbs |- valign=top ! Circumstance--> !! Place<br>-m !! Time<br>-j !! Manner<br>-yen!! Degree<br>-gla !! Frequency<br>-xag !! Reason<br>-sav |- valign=center ! Interrogative | '''duhom?'''<br>''where?'' || '''duhoj?'''<br>''when?'' || '''duhoyen?'''<br>''how?'' || '''duhogla?'''<br>''how (very)?'' || '''duhoxag?'''<br>''how often?''|| '''duavhos?'''<sup>1</sup><br>''why?'' |- valign=center ! Relative | '''hom'''<br>''where'' || '''hoj'''<br>''when'' || '''hoyen'''<br>''how'' || '''hogla'''<br>''how (very)'' || '''hoxag'''<br>''how often'' || '''avhos (van)<sup>2</sup>'''<br>''because'' |- valign=center ! Exclamatory | || || '''hooyen'''<br>''and how!, such a...'' || '''hoogla'''<br>''how very...!, so...''<sup>3</sup> || || |- valign=center ! Definite | '''ham'''<br>''the place'' || '''haj'''<br>''the time'' || '''hayen'''<br>''the manner'' || '''hagla'''<br>''just as'' || '''haxag'''<br>''as frequently''|| '''avhas'''<br>''the reason'' |- valign=center ! Indefinite | '''hem'''<br>''somewhere'' || '''hej'''<br>''sometime'' || '''heyen'''<br>''somehow'' || '''hegla'''<br>''somewhat'' || '''hexag'''<br>''somewhat often''||'''avhes'''<br>''for some reason'' |- valign=center ! Proximal | '''him'''<br>''here'' || '''hij'''<br>''now'' || '''hiyen'''<br>''this way'' || '''higla'''<br>''this'' || '''hixag'''<br>''this often''||'''avhis'''<br>''for this reason'' |- valign=center ! Immediate | '''hiim'''<br>''the following place'' || '''hiij'''<br>''the following time'' || '''hiiyen'''<br>''the following way'' || '''hiigla'''<br>''to the following degree'' || '''hiixag'''<br>''at the following frequency''||'''avhiis'''<br>''for the following reason'' |- valign=center ! Distal | '''hum'''<br>''there'' || '''huj'''<br>''then'' || '''huyen'''<br>''that way'' || '''hugla'''<br>''to that degree'' || '''huxag'''<br>''that often''|| '''avhus'''<br>''therefore'' |- valign=center ! Intensive | '''huum'''<br>''such a place'' || '''huuj'''<br>''at such a time'' || '''huuyen'''<br>''in such a way'' || '''huugla'''<br>''so (very)'' || '''huuxag'''<br>''so often''|| '''avhuus'''<br>''for such a reason'' |- valign=center ! Negative | '''hyom'''<br>''nowhere'' || '''hyoj'''<br>''never'' || '''hyoyen'''<br>''in no way'' || '''hyogla'''<br>''not at all'' || '''hyoxag'''<br>''not once''|| '''avhyos'''<br>''for no reason'' |- valign=center ! Distributive | '''hyam'''<br>''everywhere'' || '''hyaj'''<br>''always'' || '''hyayen'''<br>''in every way'' || '''hyagla'''<br>''fully'' || '''hyaxag'''<br>''always''||'''avhyas'''<br>''for every reason'' |- valign=center ! Indeterminate | '''hyem'''<br>''anywhere'' || '''hyej'''<br>''whenever'' || '''hyeyen'''<br>''however'' || '''hyegla'''<br>''however'' || '''hyexag'''<br>''however often'' || '''avhyes'''<br>''for whatever reason'' |- valign=center ! Indentical | '''hyim'''<br>''at the same place'' || '''hyij'''<br>''at the same time'' || '''hyiyen'''<br>''in the same way'' || '''hyigla'''<br>''as'' || '''hyixag'''<br>''as often''|| '''avhyis'''<br>''for the same reason'' |- valign=center ! Non-identical | '''hyum'''<br>''somewhere else'' || '''hyuj'''<br>''some other time'' || '''hyuyen'''<br>''otherwise'' || '''hyugla'''<br>''not as'' || '''hyuxag'''<br>''not as often''||'''avhyus'''<br>''for some other reason'' |} :Note 1) '''Duavhos?''' translates literally to "Say for what?". :Note 2) The positive complimentizer '''van''' is optional. :Note 3) A clause following '''hoogla''' <ADJ>/<ADV> must be followed by '''van''', eg. '''Et eka <u>hoogla fi van</u> ha teexuti byasa ab yiti tyoyabi.'''....''You played <u>so well that</u> the audience stood on their feet.'' : Concerning the above chart, note the following: :* The interrogative determiners all begin with '''duho-''', which means '''say which''', and are technically imperatives. '''Duhom?''', for example, means '''Tell (me) the place...'''. The '''o'''-stem forms without the '''du-''' are used as relative clause heads, eg. '''At po <u>hom</u> et po.'''....''I will go <u>where</u> you go.'' :* Interrogatives usually come at the beginning of a sentence as in English, eg. '''<u>Duhom</u> se eta tam?'''....''<u>Where</u> is your house?'' :* Not included in the above chart is a related interrogative, which is a complementizer. ::* '''Duven...?'''.... (Question introducer) '''Is it true that...?, Say whether...''' :::* '''<u>Duven</u> et se tadxwa?'''....''Are you married? (= <u>Say whether</u> you are married.)'' :* The adverbs of degree in the above chart ('''duhogla?''', etc.) are interchangeable with adverbs ending in '''-nog'''....''degree'' ('''duhonog?'''....''to what degree?, how...?'', '''henog'''....''somewhat'') :* Other deictic determiner adverbs of circumstance exist and are not on the above chart: ::* '''duhomep?'''....''which way?'' :::* '''humep'''....''that way'' ::* '''duhobyun?'''....''to what end?'' :::* '''hyobyun'''....''for no purpose'' ::* '''duhoizon?'''....''in which direction?'' :::* ''''hyaizon'''....''in every direction'' ==== Examples of Deictic Determiner Usage ==== ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ('''Duhos''' is pronounced '''du-HOS''') ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> se iyta twad?'''....''<u>Who</u> is her husband?'' ::* '''<u>Duhowat</u> se iyta twad?'''....''<u>Which one of the guys</u> is her husband?'' (selective) ::* '''<u>Duhoti</u> fe eker?'''....''<u>Who (pl.)</u> want to play?'' ::* '''<u>Hyas</u> se fia.'''....''<u>Everything</u> is fine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyat</u> tre et.'''....''<u>Everyone</u> knows you.'' ::* '''<u>Hyot</u> tre at.'''....''<u>Nobody</u> knows me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyati</u> ekeye fi.'''....''<u>All of them</u> are playing well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoti</u> ekeye fi.'''....''<u>None of them</u> are playing well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> yafe eker.'''....''<u>Anyone</u> can play.'' ::* '''<u>Hyes</u> yafwe.'''....''<u>Anything</u> is possible.'' ::* '''At fe <u>hyuyenat</u> be ata ekutyan.'''....''I want <u>someone else</u> on my team.'' ::* '''<u>Huuyenati</u> fyuxe yata oj.'''....''<u>Such people</u> harm our future.'' ::* '''Et yefe tepier <u>hiisi</u>.'''....''You must bear in mind <u>the following things</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et xa hus.'''.....''<u>How</u> did you do that?'' (pronounced '''du-ho-YEN''') ::* '''<u>Duavhos</u> iyt pia <u>huugla</u> jwa?'''....''<u>Why</u> did she leave <u>so</u> early?'' ::* '''<u>Hwita</u> tam se ga aga.'''....''<u>This guy's</u> house is bigger.'' ::* '''At voy ayse ha dyuni <u>bi huyti</u>.'''....''I don't have <u>those women's</u> names.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoa</u> tam se etas?'''....''<u>Which</u> house is yours?'' ::* '''<u>Huua</u> tej et ayse!'''....''<u>What a</u> life you have!'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyena</u> dyezuni ifxe et?'''....''<u>What kind of</u> movies do you like?'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> tef okwa?'''....''<u>Whose</u> hat was lost?'' ::* '''<u>Hota</u> tef okwa bese otwas.'''....''<u>Whose</u> hat was lost remains a mystery.'' ::* '''<u>Ha</u> tob ta yata dyuni.'''....''<u>The</u> man knew our names.'' ::* '''<u>Hoyena</u> dini at ife, et ufe.'''....''<u>The kind of</u> stories I love, you hate.'' ::* '''<u>Hea</u> mepi gawdyunxwo.'''....''<u>Certain</u> streets will be renamed.'' ::* '''<u>Heyena</u> fukyes uxaye purilp nyaunx.'''....''<u>Some kind of</u> accident has caused a traffic jam.'' ::* '''<u>Heta</u> abtaf kaxwa be ha zatem.'''.....''<u>Someone's</u> coat was found in the foyer.'' ::* '''<u>Hia</u> dyes se ata gwafwas.'''....''<u>This</u> book is my favorite.'' ::* '''<u>Hiia</u> duni se ofwa.'''....''<u>The following</u> words are prohibited.'' ::* '''<u>Hiiyena</u> axlyen voy afwu.'''....''<u>The following sort of</u> behavior would not be allowed.'' ::* '''<u>Hiyena</u> axlyen voy vayafwo.'''....''<u>This type of</u> behavior will not be tolerated.'' ::* '''<u>Hita</u> tim so yolza.'''....''<u>This person's</u> room will be blue.'' ::* '''<u>Hua</u> mas efwe gawvozilbwer.'''....''<u>That</u> wall needs to be repainted.'' ::* '''<u>Huua</u> dini yufxe tudi.'''....''<u>Such</u> stories scare children.'' ::* '''<u>Huyena</u> duni voy yeyfwe yixwer za at.'''....''<u>Such</u> words should not be used in front of me.'' ::* '''<u>Hwuta</u> tam magseye.'''....''<u>That guy's</u> house is on fire.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoa</u> din se ga kyitesa.'''....''<u>No</u> story is more important.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoyena</u> tes tesiyafwe.'''....''<u>No such</u> meaning can be inferred.'' ::* '''<u>Hyota</u> jatexdras sa ga fia.'''....''<u>Nobody's</u> plan is better.'' ::* '''<u>Hyos</u> oboxe huyt.'''....''<u>Nothing</u> bothers that gal.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> mepi izpe Roma.'''....''<u>All</u> roads lead to Rome.'' ::* '''<u>Hya ha</u> mepi se ebwa.'''....''<u>All the</u> roads are blocked.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> twob yefe xer ita gon.'''....''<u>Every</u> man must do his part.'' ::* '''<u>Hyayena</u> telami ese be hia domep.'''....''<u>All manner of</u> restaurants exist on this street.'' ::* '''<u>Hyata</u> tej se uka bi yaobi.'''....''<u>Everyone's</u> life is full of ups and downs.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaewa</u> domi agsaye.'''....''<u>Both</u> cities have grown.'' ::* '''<u>Hyea</u> voz so fia.'''....''<u>Any</u> color will be fine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeyena</u> til se aysyafwa.'''....''<u>Any kind of</u> drink is available.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeta</u> ved se ge ifa vyel atas.'''....''<u>Anyone's</u> guess is as good as mine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyea</u> tim et fe et yafe ayser.'''....''<u>Whatever</u> room you want, you can have.'' ::* '''<u>Hyia</u>/(Ha gea) fukyesi kyese glaxag.'''....''<u>The same</u> accidents occur frequently.'' ::* '''<u>Hyiyena</u>/(Ha geyena) dyezuni teaxuwa zajub.'''....''<u>The same kind of</u> films were shown yesterday.'' ::* '''<u>Hyita</u>/(Ha geta) dyun yixwa gajod.'''....''<u>The same person's</u> name was used again.'' ::* '''<u>Hyua</u> dyezun sa ga ifuyea.'''....''<u>The other</u> movie was more entertaining.'' ::* '''<u>Hyuyena</u>/(Ogeyena) som teasu ga fia.'''....''<u>Another kind of</u> furniture would look better.'' ::* '''<u>Hyuta</u>/(ogeta) texyen se ge fyia.'''....''<u>Someone else's</u> opinion is equally valid.'' ::* '''Ha dyuni <u>bi hiyti</u> voy dodrawe.'''....''<u>These women's</u> names have not been made public.'' ::* '''Ha dyuni <u>bi hwiiti</u> voy dodrowe.'''....''<u>The following males'</u> names will not be publicized.'' ::* '''<u>Hijaga</u> tobweti voy afwo him.'''....''Boys <u>of this age</u> will not be allowed here.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> et tambese?'''....''<u>Where</u> do you live?'' ::* '''At tambese <u>hum</u>.'''....''I live <u>there</u>.'' ::* '''Et tambese <u>hom</u> ha mep uje.'''....''You live <u>where</u> the road ends.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> yet peye?'''....''<u>Where</u> are you people going?'' ::* '''Et yafe per <u>hyem</u> et fu.'''....''You can go <u>anywhere</u> you would like.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> et byise?'''....''<u>Where</u> are you from?'' (Lit: ''Where do you originate?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoj</u> et taja?'''....''<u>When</u> were you born?'' ::* '''At voy tajaya <u>huj</u>.'''....''I had not been born <u>then</u>.'' ::* '''Et yeyfe duder <u>hiiyen</u>.'''....''You should respond <u>in the following way</u>.'' ::* '''Ot voy yefe daler <u>huuyen</u>.'''....''One must not talk <u>in such a manner</u>.'' ::* '''Et pia <u>hesav</u>.'''....''He left <u>for some reason</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et iyfe hia vifil?'''....''<u>How</u> do like this wine?'' ::* '''Voy se fia axler <u>hiyen</u>.'''....''It is not good to act <u>this way</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duavhos</u> et tadia <u>huugla</u> jwa?'''....''<u>Why</u> did you marry <u>so</u> late?'' ::* '''Ha twob pia <u>avhyos</u>.'''....''The man left <u>for no reason</u>.'' ::* '''Hwat pia <u>avhos van</u> it efa per hem.'''....''The guy left <u>because</u> he needed to go somewhere.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeta</u> texyen so fia.'''....''<u>Anyone</u>'s opinion will be fine.'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> dyes se his?'''....''Whose book is this?'' ::* '''<u>Bi hoti</u> se hia dyesi?'''....''Whose are these books?'' ::* '''<u>Hyata</u> tili yebexe yom.'''....''<u>Everyone's</u> drinks contain ice.'' ::* '''Et se gaj <u>geyenat</u>( ~ <u>hyiyenat</u>).'''....''You are still <u>the same kind of person</u>.'' : The semantic reverser '''o-''' can be prefixed to some of the above deictic determiners: :: '''<u>Ohyat</u> tiste Platon.'''....''<u>Not everyone</u> understands Plato.'' :: '''<u>Ohut!</u>'''....''Not that person!'' :: '''At iyfe gwa apovili, oy <u>ohuas</u>!'''....''I like most beers, but <u>not that one</u>!'' : If the definite article or any other deictic determiner is omitted before a noun, then it has the effect of the English indefinite article ''a / an'' with a singular noun or ''some'' with a plural noun. For example: ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ha tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>a glass</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ha tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>(some) glasses</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>awa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>one glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha awa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the one glass</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>two glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the two glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>hyaewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>both glasses</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>owa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>no/zero glasses (=not a single glass)</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ea tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>another/a second glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ea tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the second glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ea tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>second glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ea tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the second glasses</u> of wine.'' : If an indefinite article sense is needed for clarity, the words '''awa''' (''one'') or '''hea''' (''some, a certain'') can be used, eg.: ::* '''At igteata <u>awa</u> tob yiztyoper.'''....''I glimpsed <u>a</u> man walk by.'' ::* '''Wit zoyupo <u>hea</u> juab.'''....''He will come back on <u>a / a certain / some</u> Monday.'' ==== Selective vs. Non-Selective Forms ==== : The deictic interrogative determiner pronoun '''duhot?''' means ''who(m)'' and contrasts with its '''''selective''''' counterpart '''duhoat?''', which means ''which one?''. All the selective determiners refer to one or more things or persons from a selectable pool of things or persons. : The following sentences illustrate the use of the above determiner pronouns: ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> aka zajuba ek?'''....''<u>Who</u> won yesterday's game?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoat</u> bi ha akuti sa ha gwa fiat?'''....''<u>Which one</u> of the winners was the best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> tam se hus?'''....''<u>Whose</u> house is that?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotas</u> se hus?'''....''<u>Whose</u> is that?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotia</u> deuzi et gaife?'''....''<u>Whose</u> songs do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotias</u> et gaife?'''....''<u>Whose</u> do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* '''<u>Duhosi</u> se eta gaifuni?'''....''<u>What</u> are your preferences?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoa</u> deuzi se eta gwa fiasi?'''....''<u>Which</u> songs are your best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoasi</u> se eta gwa fiasi?'''....''<u>Which ones</u> are your best?'' ::* '''Bi hia deuzuti, <u>hoat</u> et gaife?'''....''Of these vocalists, <u>which one</u> do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Hiiti</u> yaneko hijub.'''....''<u>The following people</u> will compete today.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoati</u> se gwa fia?'''....''<u>Which ones</u> are best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoti</u> et teexe gwa jodi?'''....''<u>Who (all)</u> do you listen to the most often?'' ::* '''<u>Hoat</u> at teexe gwaxag draye ejna deuz.'''....''<u>The one</u> I listen to the most has written a new song.'' ::* '''Ejna deuz? At voy teste <u>hoas</u> et tede.'''....''New song? I don't understand <u>which one</u> you mean.'' ::* '''<u>Hias</u>.'''....''<u>This one</u>.'' ::* '''Vo. <u>Huasi</u> se ga fia.'''....''No. <u>Those</u> are better.'' ::* '''<u>His</u> se jub av ivxelen.'''....''<u>This</u> is a day for celebration.'' ::* '''Va. <u>Hia</u> jub. At tese <u>hi</u>jub.'''....''Yes. <u>This</u> day. I mean <u>To-</u>day.'' ::* '''<u>Husi</u> sa <u>ha</u> jubi, ata dat!'''....''<u>Those</u> were <u>the</u> days, my friend!'' ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> aka ha igpek?'''....''<u>Who</u> won the race?'' ::* '''<u>Hyas</u> uja fi.'''....''<u>Everything</u> ended well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyasi</u> uje.'''....''<u>All things</u> come to an end.'' ::* '''<u>Hyayenasi</u> vey kyesu.'''....''<u>All sorts of things</u> might happen.'' ::* '''<u>Hyos</u> yokxa at.'''....''<u>Nothing</u> surprised me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyot</u> ta hot ako.'''....''<u>Nobody</u> knew who would win.'' ::* '''<u>Hoayti</u> fu pier yefe.'''....''<u>Those females</u> who would like to leave may.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> yefe eker hia ifek.'''....''<u>Anyone</u> can play this game.'' ::* '''<u>Huyenasi</u> voy afwo.'''....''<u>Such things</u> will not be permitted.'' ::* '''<u>Hua twob</u> voy taxe hia toyb.'''....''<u>That</u> man does not remember this woman.'' ::* '''<u>Hwuti</u> yanyexe fi.'''....''<u>Those guys</u> work well together.'' ::* '''<u>Huuyti</u> hyaj yubixe tepzex.'''....''<u>Such females</u> always attract attention.'' ::* '''At jay teataye <u>hiyenasi</u>.'''....''I've seen <u>such things</u> before.'' ::* '''<u>Huyenwat</u> voy vabiwu.'''....''<u>A guy like that</u> would not be accepted.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyenasi</u> weti iyfe xer je ha maj.'''....''<u>What kinds of things</u> do you guys like to do during the day?'' === Numerical Deictic Determiners === : Sometimes, a deictic determiner specifies numerical information. This chart shows those forms: :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Number-incorporating Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! Adjective !! Inanimate Pronoun !! Animate Pronoun !! Pronominal Determiner !! Possessive Pronoun |- | '''hawa'''<sup>1</sup><br> ''the only'' || '''hawas'''<br>''the only thing''<br>'''hawasi'''<br>''the only things'' || '''hawat'''<br>''the only one (person)''<br>'''hawati'''<br>''the only ones''|| '''hawata'''<br>''the only person&apos;s'' || '''hawatas'''<br>''the only one&apos;s''<br>'''hawatasi'''<br>''the only one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyawa'''*<br> ''each'' || '''hyawas'''<br>''each one'' || '''hyawat'''<br>''each person''|| '''hyawata'''<br>''each person&apos;s'' || '''hyawatas'''<br>''each one&apos;s''<br>'''hyawatasi'''<br>''each one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyaewa'''<br>''both'' || '''hyaewasi'''<br>''both (<small>things</small>)'' || '''hyaewati'''<br>''both (<small>people</small>)''|| '''bi hyaewati'''<br>''both person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyaewati'''<br>''both person&apos;s''<br>'''hasi bi hyaewati'''<br>''both persone&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyaiwa'''<br>''all three'' || '''hyaiwasi'''<br>''all three (<small>things</small>)'' || '''hyaiwati'''<br>''all three (<small>people</small>)''|| '''hyaiwata'''<br>''all three person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyaiwati'''<br>''all three person&apos;s''<br>'''hasi bi hyaiwati'''<br>''all three person&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''ohyawa'''<br>''not every'' || '''ohyawas'''<br>''not everything'' || '''ohyawat'''<br>''not everyone''|| '''ohyawata'''<br>''not every person&apos;s'' || '''ohyawatas'''<br>''not everyone&apos;s''<br>'''ohyawatasi'''<br>''not everyone&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyoawa'''<br>''not a single'' || '''hyoawas'''<br>''not a single thing'' || '''hyoawat'''<br>''not a single person''|| '''hyowata'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s'' || '''hyowatas'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s''<br>'''hyowatasi'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyeawa'''<br>''either'' || '''hyeawas'''<br>''either one'' || '''hyeawat'''<br>''either one (<small>person</small>)''|| '''hyeawata'''<br>''either one&apos;s'' || '''hyeawatas'''<br>''either one&apos;s''<br>'''hyeawatasi'''<br>''either one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyeewa'''<br>''any two'' || '''hyeewasi'''<br>''any two things'' || '''hyeewati'''<br>''any two people''|| '''bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two persons&apos;''<br>'''hasi bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two persons&apos; (things)'' |- | '''hyeowa'''<br>''neither'' || '''hyeowas'''<br>''neither one'' || '''hyeowat'''<br>''neither person''|| '''hyeawata'''<br>''neither person&apos;s'' || '''hyeowatas'''<br>''neither one&apos;s''<br>'''hyeowatasi'''<br>''neither one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyuawa'''<br>''another'' || '''hyuawas'''<br>''another one'' || '''hyuawat'''<br>''another''|| '''hyuawata'''<br>''another&apos;s'' || '''hyuawatas'''<br>''another&apos;s''<br>'''hyuawatasi'''<br>''another&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyuowa'''<br>''no other'' || '''hyuowas'''<br>''nothing else'' || '''hyuowat'''<br>''nobody else''|| '''hyuowata'''<br>''no other&apos;s'' || '''hyuowatas'''<br>''no other&apos;s''<br>'''hyuowatasi'''<br>''no other&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''gawa'''<sup>2</sup><br>''another'' || '''gawas'''<br>''another one'' || '''gawat'''<br>''another (person)''|| '''gawata'''<br>''another&apos;s'' || '''gawatas'''<br>''another&apos;s''<br>'''gawatasi'''<br>''another&apos;s (things)'' |} <small> :: Note 1) '''Hawa''' and '''hyawa''' are short for '''haawa''' and '''hyaawa''', respectively. :: Note 2) '''Gawa''' is short for '''ga awa''', ''yet one''. </small> ==== Notes on Numerical Deictic Determiners ==== : Examples using the above number-incorporating deictic determiners: ::* '''<u>Ohyawat</u> se iva bay eta vaod.'''....''<u>Not everyone</u> is happy with your decision.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaewasi</u> yafwe uxler yata efoni.'''....''<u>Both (things)</u> can serve our needs.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeawa</u> tim ivlaxo at.'''....''<u>Either</u> room will satisfy me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowas</u> oivlaxo at.'''....''<u>Neither one</u> will dissatisfy me.'' : Note: ::* '''hyua''' means ''another (an alternative)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hyua</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>another (a different)</u> drink.'' ::* '''hyuawa''' means ''another (an additional)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hyuawa</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>another (an additional)</u> drink.'' ::* '''ha hyua''' means ''the other (the alternative)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>ha hyua</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>the other</u> drink.'' : Similarly, '''hya''' means ''every, all'', while '''hyawa''' means ''each'', and '''hyaha'''....''all the'', ex: ::* '''<u>Hya</u> dom ayse tebixea suni teaxer.'''....''<u>Every</u> city has interesting things to see.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> domi ayse tebixusi.'''....''<u>All</u> cities have things of interest.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaha</u> domi ayse tebixusi.'''....''<u>All the</u> cities have things of interest.'' ::* '''<u>Hyawa</u> dom ayse tebixun.'''....''<u>Each</u> city has something of interest.'' : Also, '''ha''' means ''the'', while '''hawa''' means ''the only'', eg.: ::* '''<u>Ha</u> twob hu at gwa ife se et.'''....''<u>The</u> man I most love is you.'' ::* '''<u>Hawa</u> toyb nazea ata tepzex se et.'''....''<u>The only</u> woman worth my attention is you.'' : By appending '''y''' to '''hawa''', we get the adverb '''haway'''....''only, solely'', eg; ::* '''<u>Haway</u> et nize ata tepzex.'''....''<u>Only</u> you deserve my attention.''. : The singular person pronouns in the above chart can be converted into pronominal determiners by adding the adjective suffix '''a''', eg.: ::* '''<u>Hyawata</u> tej se ge glatesa vyel hyutas.'''....''<u>Each one's</u> life is as important as another's.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowata</u> dyun se vyama.'''....''<u>Neither person's</u> name is real.'' : However, the plural person pronouns in the above chart use the preposition '''bi''' (''of'') to form possessives, eg.: ::* '''Ha teji <u>bi hyaiwati</u> se kyebukuwa.'''....''The lives <u>of all three</u> are in danger.'' : The above singular pronominal determiners can, in turn, be converted into inanimate pronouns with the suffix '''-s'''. ::* '''<u>Hyawatas</u> se glatesa.'''....''<u>Each one's</u> is important.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowatas</u> se vyama.'''....''<u>Neither's</u> is real.'' : The plural pronominal determiners can be nominalized with the use of '''bi''', eg: ::* '''<u>Hyaiwasi</u> <u>bi huti</u> se kyebukuwa.'''....''<u>All three</u> <u>of theirs'</u> are in danger.'' : Correlative Number-incorporating Deictic Determiners are handled as follows: ::* '''Hyeawa A ey B'''....''either A or B'' ::* '''Hyeowa A oy B'''....''neither A nor B'' ::* '''Hyaewa A ay B'''....''both A and B'' ::* '''Hawa A, voy B'''....''only A, not B'' : The different, somewhat confusing, meanings of ''how'' are illustrated here: ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> wit xa hus?'''....''<u>How</u> did he do that?''.... (Equivalent to '''Be duha byen...?'''....''In what way...?'') (ADVERB OF MANNER) ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et xeye?'''....''<u>How</u> are you doing?''.... (This is the normal way of saying ''How are you?'' or ''How do you do?'' (ADVERB OF MANNER) ::* '''<u>Duhoyena</u> sa ha dyezun?'''....'' <u>How</u> was the film?''.... (''How'' here is an ADJECTIVE OF KIND, and thus ends in '''-a'''.) ::* '''<u>Duhonog (= Duhogla)</u> aga it se?'''....''<u>How</u> big is he?''.... (ADVERB OF DEGREE) ::* '''<u>Huunog (= Huugla)</u> iyfla et se!'''....''<u>How</u> nice you are!''.... (ADVERB OF EMPHATIC DEGREE) : The conjunction ''as'' is expressed most often using relative pro-adverbs of manner: ::* '''Xu <u>hoyen</u> at de.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I say.'' = (in) the way that... ::* '''Xu <u>hyiyen</u>''' (~ '''geyen''') '''at xe.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I do. ( = (in) the same way that...)'' ::* '''Xu <u>hiiyen</u>:'''....''Do <u>as follows</u>. ( = (in) this hereby manner...)'' : However, the preposition/conjunction '''gel''' (''like, as'') can be substituted: ::* '''Xu <u>gel</u> at de.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I say.'' : Many of the determiner adverbs in the above chart can be used in relative clauses, eg: ::* '''At teato et <u>hoj</u> et puo him.'''....''I will see you <u>when</u> you get here.'' ::* '''It xa has <u>avhos van</u> tosa yefa.'''....''He did it <u>because (for the reason that)</u> he felt compelled.'' ::* '''<u>Hyem</u> et po, et so ga iva.'''....''<u>Wherever</u> you go, you'll be happier.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> te ha did, yabu eta tuyab.'''....''<u>Whoever</u> knows the answer, raise your hand.'' ::* '''At te <u>hoyen</u> et xa is.'''....''I know <u>how</u> you did it.'' : See more about this in the section on [[Mirad_Grammar/Syntax#Relative_Clauses|relative clauses under Syntax]]. === Pronominal Deictic Determiners === : Some words in Mirad incorporate deictic prefixes with pronouns and pronominal adjectives, as shown in the following chart: {{small/top}} :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size;smaller;" |+ Pronominal Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! colspan=3 | Pronoun |- ! 1st Person Plural !! 2nd Person Plural !! 3rd Person Plural |- | '''duhoyat'''<br>''which of us'' || '''duhoyet'''<br>''which of you'' || '''duhoyit'''<br>''which of them'' |- | '''heyat'''<br>''some of us'' || '''heyet'''<br>''some of you'' || '''heyit'''<br>''which of them'' |- | '''hyayat'''<br>''each of us'' || '''hyayet'''<br>''each of you'' || '''hyayit'''<br>''each of them'' |- | '''hyeyat'''<br>''any of us'' || '''hyeyet'''<br>''any of you'' || '''hyeyit'''<br>''any of them'' |- | '''hyoyat'''<br>''none of us'' || '''hyoyet'''<br>''none of you'' || '''hyoyit'''<br>''none of them'' |- ! colspan=3 | Pronominal Adjective |- ! 1st Person (Plural) !! 2nd Person (Plural) !! 3rd Person (Plural) |- | '''duhoyata'''<br>''which of our'' || '''duhoyet'''<br>''which of your'' || '''duhoyita'''<br>''which of their'' |- | '''heyata'''<br>''some of our'' || '''heyeta'''<br>''some of your'' || '''heyita'''<br>''which of their'' |- | '''hyayata'''<br>''each of our'' || '''hyayeta'''<br>''each of your'' || '''hyayita'''<br>''each of their'' |- | '''hyeyata'''<br>''any of our'' || '''hyeyeta'''<br>''any of your'' || '''hyeyita'''<br>''any of their'' |- ! colspan=3 | Singular/(Plural) Possessive Pronoun |- ! 1st Person (Plural) !! 2nd Person (Plural) !! 3rd Person (Plural) |- | '''duhoyatas(i)'''<br>''which of ours'' || '''duhoyetas(i)'''<br>''which of yours'' || '''duhoyitas(i)'''<br>''which of theirs'' |- | '''heyatas(i)'''<br>''some of ours'' || '''heyetas(i)'''<br>''some of yours'' || '''heyitas(i)'''<br>''which of theirs'' |- | '''hyayatas(i)'''<br>''each of ours'' || '''hyayetas(i)'''<br>''each of yours'' || '''hyayitas(i)'''<br>''each of theirs'' |- | '''hyeyatas(i)'''<br>''any of ours'' || '''hyeyetas(i)'''<br>''any of yours'' || '''hyeyitas(i)'''<br>''any of theirs'' |- | '''hyoyatas(i)'''<br>''none of ours'' || '''hyoyetas(i)'''<br>''none of yours'' || '''hyoyitas(i)'''<br>''none of theirs'' |} {{small/end}} : The above possessive pronouns refer to things. If you replace the final '''-s''' or '''-si''', to '''-t''' or '''-ti''', then they become animate and refer to people, eg.: ::* '''Ese ewa tudi him. Duhoyitas se his?'''....''There are two children here. Which one of theirs is this?'' : All of the forms in the above chart can also be expressed as separate words, eg.: ::* '''Duhoyet?'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Duhoat bi yet?'''....''Which one of you?'' ::* '''Hyayat'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaglati bi yet'''....''All of us.'' ::* '''Hyoyatasi'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyogla yatasi'''....''All of ours (things)'' Note: ::* '''Awayat'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Awat bi yat'''....''one of us'' ::* '''Hyaewayet'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaewat bi yet'''....''both of you'' ::* '''Hyaiwayit'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaiwat bi yit'''....''all three of them'' === Quantitative Deictic Determiners === : The deictic prefixes can be combined with '''gla''' to form quantitative expressions acting as adverbial or adjectival determiners, and substantives (pronouns referring to things or people): {{small/top}} :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size;smaller;" |+ Quantitative Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! !! Adverbial / Adjectival<br>Determiner !! Inanimate Singular<br>Pronoun !! Inanimate Plural <br>Pronoun !! Animate Plural<br>Pronoun |- !row=1|Interrogative | '''duhogla?'''<br>''how?/how much?/how many?'' || '''duhoglas?'''<br>''how much?'' || '''duhoglasi?'''<br>''how many'' || '''duhoglati?'''<br>''how many (people)?'' |- !row=1|Relative | '''hogla'''<br>''as many/much'' || '''hoglas'''<br>''how much'' || '''duhoglasi'''<br>''how many'' || '''duhoglati'''<br>''how many (as)'' |- !row=1|Definite | '''hagla'''<br>''how/as much/as many'' || '''haglas'''<br>''as much'' || '''haglasi'''<br>''as many'' || '''haglati'''<br>''as many (people)'' |- !row=1|Indefinite | '''hegla'''<br>''somewhat/some/some'' || '''heglas'''<br>''some'' || '''heglasi'''<br>''some'' || '''heglati'''<br>''some (people)'' |- !row=1|Proximal | '''higla'''<br>''this/this much/this many'' || '''higlas'''<br>''this much'' || '''higlasi'''<br>''this many'' || '''higlati'''<br>''this many (people)'' |- !row=1|Distal | '''hugla'''<br>''that/that much/that many'' || '''huglas'''<br>''that much'' || '''huglasi'''<br>''that many'' || '''huglati'''<br>''that many (people)'' |- !row=1|Intensive | '''huugla'''<br>''so very, so much, so many'' || '''huuglas'''<br>''so much'' || '''huuglasi'''<br>''so many'' || '''huuglati'''<br>''so many (people)'' |- !row=1|Negative | '''hyogla'''<br>''none, not very'' || '''hyoglas'''<br>''none of it'' || '''hyoglasi'''<br>''none of them '' || '''hyoglati'''<br>''none'' |- !row=1|Distributive | '''hyagla'''<br>''totally/all/all'' || '''hyaglas'''<br>''all of it'' || '''hyaglasi'''<br>''all of them'' || '''hyaglati'''<br>''all'' |- !row=1|Indeterminate | '''hyegla'''<br>''however/any/any'' || '''hyeglas'''<br>''any of it'' || '''hyeglasi'''<br>''any of them'' || '''hyeglati'''<br>''any number of them'' |- !row=1|Identical | '''hyigla'''<br>''as/as much/as many, equally'' || '''hyiglas'''<br>''the same amount'' || '''hyiglasi'''<br>''the same number'' || '''hyiglati'''<br>''as many (people)'' |- !row=1|Non-identical | '''hyugla'''<br>''not as much/not as much/not as many'' || '''hyuglas'''<br>''a different amount'' || '''hyuglasi'''<br>''a different number of things'' || '''hyuglati'''<br>''a different number of people'' |} {{Small/end}} : Here are some examples showing how these quantitative determiners are used: ::* '''Et deuze <u>huugla</u> fi.'''....''You sing <u>so</u> well.'' ::* '''At se <u>hegla</u> booka.'''....''I am <u>somewhat</u> tired.'' ::* '''<u>Duhogla</u> pati et teata hijub?'''....''<u>How many</u> birds did you see today?'' ::* '''At teata vyavay <u>hugla</u> tami.'''....''I saw exactly <u>that many</u> houses.'' ::* '''Iyt fe <u>hyiglas</u> vyel et.'''....''She wants <u>the same amount</u> as you.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoglati</u> yantexe yet?'''....''<u>How many (people)</u> agree with you?'' ::* '''<u>Hyoglati</u> yantexe.'''....''<u>None</u> agree.'' ::* '''Yit fu <u>heglasi</u>.'''....''They would like <u>some (of them)</u>.'' ::* '''Et yafe bier <u>hyeglasi</u> et fe.'''....''You can take <u>however many</u> you want.'' ::* '''Besu bay at <u>hogla</u> job et fe.'''....''Stay <u>as</u> long with me as you want.'' ::* '''At se <u>huugla</u> booka.'''....''I am <u>so</u> tired.'' : NOTE: The following determiners are synonymous and interchangeable: ::* '''hegla''' = '''gle''' = '''henog''' (''somewhat, to some degree'') ::* '''hyigla''' = '''ge''' = '''hyinog''' (''as, equally, to the same degree'') : The determiner ''huugla'' can be used as an exclamatory adverb, eg.: ::* '''<u>Huugla</u> et agsaye!'''....''<u>How</u> you have grown!'' ::* '''Hua twob jagsaye <u>huugla</u>!'''....''That man has aged <u>so much</u>!'' ::* '''Hia jotul se <u>huugla</u> fiteluza!'''....''This dessert is <u>sooo</u> delicious!'' == Pronominal Determiners == : Pronominal Determiners are what are more often called '''''possessive adjectives''''' such as ''my'' or ''your'' and are discussed in a subsection of [[Mirad Grammar/Pronouns#Pronominal Determiners|Pronouns]]. == Quantitative Determiners == : '''''Quantitative determiners''''' act in one of several ways, they: ::* specify mass, uncountable, singular nouns for relative AMOUNT, eg. ''much happiness, less work'' ::* specify countable nouns for relative NUMBER, eg. ''one apple, two birds, many places'' ::* specify adverbs, adjectives, and verbs for relative DEGREE, eg. ''how poorly, very good, eat too much''. : From these, pronominalized quantitative determiners for PERSONS and THINGS can be derived. ::* Inanimate singular pronouns are formed by adding '''s''' for AN AMOUNT OF A THING ::* Inanimate plural pronouns are formed by adding '''si''' for A NUMBER OF THINGS ::* Animate plural pronouns are formed by adding '''ti''' for A NUMBER OF PERSONS. : The following table presents most of these word forms (Note that the determiners are in a plus (+), equal (=), or minus (-) row.): {| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; margin-left:1.6em; font-size:smaller;" |+ Quantitative Determiners |- !colspan=2|Adverb / Adjective !! Singular Pronoun !!colspan=2| Plural Pronoun |- !colspan=2|Degree/Amount/Number !! Amount !! Number of Things !! Number of People |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''ga'''....''more'' || '''gas'''....''more (stuff)'' || '''gasi'''....''many (things)'' || '''gati'''....''many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''ge'''....''as, as much, as many'' || '''ges'''....''as much (stuff)'' || '''gesi'''....''as many (things)'' || '''geti'''....''as many people'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''go'''....''less, fewer'' || '''gos'''....''less (stuff)'' || '''gosi'''....''fewer (things)'' || '''goti'''....''fewer (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gla'''....''very, much, many''<br>'''glay'''....''so, so much, so many''<br>'''glaa'''....''several'' || '''glas'''....''much (stuff)''<br>'''glays'''....''so much stuff'') || '''glasi'''....''many (things)''<br>'''glaysi'''....''so many (things)''<br>'''glaasi'''....''several things''|| '''glati'''....''many (people)''<br>'''glayti'''....''so many (people)''<br>'''glaati'''....''several people'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gle'''....''rather, quite a lot, quite a few'' || '''gles'''....''quite a lot (of stuff)'' || '''glesi'''....''quite a lot (of things)'' || '''gleti'''....''quite a few (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''glo'''....''slightly, a little, few'' || '''glos'''....''a little bit'' || '''glosi'''....''a few (things)'' || '''gloti'''....''few (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gra'''....''too, too much, too many'' || '''gras'''....''too much (stuff)'' || '''grasi'''....''too many (things)'' || '''grati'''....''too many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gre'''....''enough'' || '''gres'''....''enough (stuff)'' || '''gresi'''....''enough (things)'' || '''greti'''....''enough (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''gro'''....''insufficiently, too little, too few'' || '''gros'''....''too little'' || '''grosi'''....''too few'' || '''groti'''....''too few (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gwa'''....''most'' || '''gwas'''....''the most (stuff)'' || '''gwasi'''....''the most (things)'' || '''gwati'''....''most people'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gwe'''....''just so (much/many)'' || '''gwes'''....''just so much'' || '''gwesi'''....''just so many'' || '''gweti'''....''just so many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''gwo'''....''least'' || '''gwos'''....''the least (stuff)'' || '''gwosi'''....''the least (number of)'' || '''gwoti'''....''the least number (of people)'' |} : Examples Using Graded Quantitative Determiners :: Adverbs of degree modifying an adjective: :::* '''At se <u>gla</u> iva.'''....''I am <u>very</u> happy.'' :::* '''Et sa <u>gra</u> uga.'''....''You were <u>too</u> slow.'' :: Adverbs of Degree modifying another adverb: :::* '''Twobi dale <u>ge</u> igay vyel toybi.'''....''Men talk <u>as</u> fast as women.'' :::* '''Yat yexe <u>ga igay</u> vyel yet.'''....''We work faster (= <u>more quickly</u>) than you.'' :: Adjectives quantifying a singular mass noun: :::* '''<u>Ga</u> nas efwo.'''....''<u>More</u> money will be needed.'' :::* '''<u>Gra</u> nas noxwa.'''....''<u>Too much</u> money was spent.'' :: Adjectives quantifying a plural countable noun (= things or people): :::* '''At ayse <u>gro</u> sari.'''....''I've got <u>too few</u> tools.'' :::* '''<u>Gla</u> tami osexwa.'''....''<u>Many</u> houses were destroyed.'' :::* '''Yat efe <u>gla ga</u> valkdibuti.'''....''We need <u>many more</u> policemen.'' :: Pronouns referring to a mass amount of something (= stuff): :::* '''<u>Gas</u> ilokeye.'''....''<u>More (stuff)</u> is leaking.'' :::* '''Et dileye <u>gras</u>.'''....''You are asking for <u>too much (stuff)</u>.'' :::* '''Yat kexo <u>gwas</u>.'''....''We will seek <u>as much (stuff) as possible</u>.'' :::* '''At iba <u>gwes</u>.'''....''I received <u>just the right amount.</u>'' :: Pronouns referring to a countable number of things: :::* '''Hisi se fia oy yat fe <u>gasi</u>.'''....''These (items) are good but we want <u>more (items)</u>.'' :::* '''At teate drilari oy <u>grosi</u>.'''....''I see pens, but <u>too few</u>.'' :: Pronouns referring to a countable number of people: :::* '''<u>Grati</u> xaye vyoki be hia yexem.'''....''<u>Too many (people)</u> have made mistakes at this work site.'' :::* '''<u>Glati</u> dyunwe oy <u>gloti</u> kebiwe.'''....''<u>Many</u> are called but <u>few</u> are chosen.'' == Numerical Determiners == : This category of determiners, which includes cardinal, ordinal and other number words like ''two'', ''a tenth'', and ''first'', is such a vast topic that it is treated in its own chapter [[Mirad_Grammar/Numbers]] <noinclude>{{Chapter navigation with TOC|Adverbs|Numbers}}</noinclude> jotyli6qj3webbi14qpw33jq2pb02wr 4520835 4520830 2025-07-01T19:04:04Z Tyoyafud 6233 /* Examples of Deictic Determiner Usage */ 4520835 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>{{status|100%}}</noinclude> : Determiners are words that specify or point out the context of nouns and other parts of speech. The English determiner ''this'', for example, specifies a noun for its proximity to the current context. In English, demonstrative pronouns/adjectives/adverbs, possessive pronouns/adjectives, quantifiers like ''more'' and ''very'', and numeric expressions like ''both'' fall under this category. == Types of Determiners == : Determiners in Mirad fall into the following categories: ::{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Types of Determiners |- ! Type !! Also Known As !! English Examples |- !row=1| Deictic | Demonstrative Pronouns/Adjectives/Adverbs || ''the'', ''this'', ''some'', ''every'', ''which?'', ''when'' |- !row=1| Pronominal | Possessive Pronouns/Adjectives | ''my'', ''anybody&apos;s'', ''one&apos;s own'' |- !row=1| Quantitative | Quantifiers || ''more'', ''less'', ''very'' |- !row=1| Numerical | Numerals/Fractions/Ordinals/Dates, etc. || ''one'', ''half'', ''first'' |} : Furthermore, as for part of speech, determiners can be adjectives, pronouns, or adverbs. As adjectives, determiners can itemize or classify. As pronouns, they can refer to one or more persons (male or female) or things. As adverbs, they can specify circumstance, i.e. time, place, degree, kind, age, frequency, and so forth. == Deictic Determiners == : '''''Deictic determiners''''' are words which point out or ''specify'' other words as to their context, including what grammarians often call '''''demonstratives'''''. All deictic determiners in Mirad begin with the letter '''h'''. The letters following the '''h''' indicate the grammatical and semantic category. : Deictic determiners include the following traditional grammatical categories: <div style="background: lightyellow"> ::* '''''Demonstrative adjectives ''''' like ''this'', ''that'', ''those'', ''that one'' ::* '''''The definite article''''' ''the ''&nbsp;&nbsp; (which is really a '''''demonstrative adjective''''' like those above.) ::* '''''Demonstrative pronouns''''' like ''this'', ''that'', ''those'', ''that one'' ::* '''''Interrogative and relative pronouns''''' like ''who, which, that'' ::* '''''Indefinite adjectives''''' like ''any'', ''some'', ''all'', ''something'', ''such'', etc. ::* '''''Indefinite pronouns''''' like ''any'', ''some'', ''all'', ''something'', ''such'', etc. ::* '''''Pronouns, adjectives, and adverbs of quantity''''' like ''so much'', ''that many'', ''how many?'', ''very'', etc. ::* '''''Adverbs of circumstance:''''' :::* '''''time''''' like ''when'', ''now'', ''ever'' :::* '''''place''''' like ''there'', ''here'', ''somewhere'' :::* '''''manner''''' like ''how'', ''thus'', ''somehow'' :::* '''''kind''''' like ''so'', age ''this year old'' :::* '''''direction''''' like ''that way'', ''any which way'' :::* '''''reason''''' ''why?'', ''for that reason'', ''for no reason'' :::* '''''degree''''' ''this (well)'', ''so (good)'', ''how (bad)'' :::* '''''frequency''''' like ''how often'', ''so often'', ''never'' :::* '''''age''''' like ''this old'', ''how old?'', ''of any age'' </div> === Deictic Prefixes === [[File:Deixis (DE).png|thumb|none]] : There is a whole set of '''''correlative deictic prefixes''''', which are joined to circumstantial stub category suffixes to derive pronoun, adjective, and adverb determiners. In some grammars, these words are called ''wh-question words and their pointed answers''. For example, QUESTION: <u>Who</u> is your wife? ANSWER: <u>This</u> is my wife. (or) QUESTION: <u>Where</u> is your house? ANSWER: My house is <u>here</u>. These word forms are called correlative because they relate to one another in way that can be mapped to a table. : Here are the Mirad deictic classification prefixes: :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Deictic Prefixes |- ! Classification !! Deictic Prefix |- ! scope="row" | Interrogative | '''duho-...?'''....''what?, which?'' |- ! scope="row" | Relative | '''ho-'''....''which, that'' |- ! scope="row" | Exclamatory | '''hoo-'''....''how...!'' |- ! scope="row" | Definite | '''ha-'''....''the'' |- ! scope="row: | Indefinite | '''he-'''....''some, a certain'' |- ! scope="row" | Proximal | '''hi-'''....''this, these'' |- ! scope="row" | Immediate | '''hii-'''....''the following'' |- ! scope="row" | Distal | '''hu-'''....''that, those'' |- ! scope="row" | Intensive | '''huu-'''....''such, so, what a...!'' |- ! scope="row" | Distributive | '''hya-'''....''every, all, each'' |- ! scope="row" | Indeterminate | '''hye-'''....''any, whatever'' |- ! scope="row" | Negative | '''hyo-'''....''no, not any'' |- ! scope="row | Identical | '''hyi-'''....''the same, the very'' |- ! scope="row" | Non-identical | '''hyu-'''....''the other, another, else'' |} : Note: The Identical ('''hyi-''') and Non-identical prefixes ('''hyu-''') can optionally be substituted with '''ge-''' (''same'') and '''oge-''' (different), respectively. === Circumstantial Category Suffixes === : The table below shows word stub suffixes that indicate the circumstantial category of deictic expressions. They are called stubs, because they are reduced word forms. The combination of deictic prefixes and circumstantial stub suffixes produce a matrix of deictic '''''correlatives''''', seen later in this chapter. Use of the stub instead of the long form is a matter of optional economy. A few categories do not have stubs. :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Category Stubs |- ! Category !! Stub Suffix !! Long Form !! Short Question Form || Long Question Form |- ! row=1| Person | '''-t''' || '''<u>t</u>ob'''....''person'' || '''duhot?'''....''who?''|| '''duhotob?''' |- ! row=1| Thing | '''-s''' ||'''<u>s</u>un'''....''thing'' || '''duhos?'''....''what?''|| '''duhosun?''' |- ! row=1| Place | '''-m''' ||'''ne<u>m</u>'''....''place'' || '''duhom?'''....''where?''|| '''duhonem?''' |- ! row=1| Time | '''-j''' ||'''<u>j</u>ob'''....''time'' || '''duhoj?'''....''when?''|| '''duhojob?''' |- ! row=1| Manner | '''-yen''' ||'''b<u>yen</u>'''....''manner'' || '''duhoyen?'''....''how?''||'''duhobyen?''' |- ! row=1| Kind | '''-yena''' ||'''sauna</u>'''....''kind of'' || '''duhoyena?'''....''what kind of?''||'''duhosauna?''' |- ! row=1| Degree | '''-gla''' ||'''nog'''....''degree'' || '''duhogla (fi)?'''....''how (well)?''||'''duhonog?''' |- ! row=1| Number | '''-gla''' ||'''sag'''....''number'' || '''duhogla (pati)?'''....''how many (birds)?''||'''duhosag?''' |- ! row=1| Mass Quantity | '''-gla''' ||'''glan'''....''amount'' || '''duhogla (mil)?'''....''how much (water)?''||'''duhoglan?''' |- ! row=1| Frequency | ||'''xag'''....''frequency''|| '''duhoxag?'''....''how often?''|| -- |- ! row=1| Reason | '''-avhos''' || '''av hosun'''....''reason'' || '''duavhos?'''....''why?''|| '''duavhosun?''' |- ! row=1| Age | ||'''jaga'''....''of age'' || '''duhojaga?'''....''how old?''|| -- |} : There can be other circumstantial categories other than those listed above, such as "direction", "order", etc. eg. '''Duhomep wit pa?'''....''Which way did he go?''. === Charts of Correlative Deictic Determiners === : Here is are three tables showing the matrix of correlative deictic determiners. Note that the determiners belong to three parts of speech, 1) adjectives, 2) pronouns, and 3) adverbs: :{| class="wikitable" font-size:smaller style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |- ! Part of Speech !! Ending |- | Adjective || '''-a''' |- | Pronoun || '''-t(i)''', '''-s(i)''' |- | Adverb || (no ending) |} ==== Deictic Determiner Adjectives ==== : All deictic determiner adjectives end in '''-a''' and are used to modify nouns. :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Adjectives |- valign=top ! !! Selective<br>-a!! Possessive<br>-ta !! Kind/Manner<br>-yena !! Quantity<br>-gla !! Age<br>-jaga |- ! Interrogative |'''duhoa?'''<br>''which?''||'''duhota?'''<br>''whose?''|| '''duhoyena?'''<br>''what kind of?''||'''duhogla?'''<br>''how much/many?'' ||'''duhojaga?'''<br>''how old?'' |- valign=top ! Relative |'''hoa'''<br>''which''||'''hota'''<br>''whose''|| '''hoyena'''<br>''what kind of''||'''hogla'''<br>''how much/many'' ||'''hojaga'''<br>''how old'' |- valign=top ! Exclamatory |'''hooa'''<br>''what a...!''|| || ||'''hoogla'''<br>''look how much/many...!'' ||'''hoojaga'''<br>''how old a...!'' |- valign=top ! Definite |'''ha'''<sup>1</sup><br>''the''||'''hatas'''<br>''the person’s''|| '''hayena'''<br>''of the kind''||'''hagla'''<br>''of the amount'' ||'''hajaga'''<br>''of the age'' |- valign=top ! Indefinite |'''hea'''<br>''some/a certain''||'''heta'''<br>''someone's''|| '''heyena'''<br>''some kind of''||'''hegla'''<br>''some'' ||'''hejaga'''<br>''somewhat old'' |- valign=top ! Proximal |'''hia'''<br>''this''||'''hita'''<br>''this person’s''|| '''hiyena'''<br>''this kind of''||'''higla'''<br>''this much'' ||'''hijaga'''<br>''this old'' |- valign=top ! Immdediate |'''hiia'''<br>''the following''||'''hiita'''<br>''the follow person’s''|| '''hiiyena'''<br>''the following kind of'' || '''hiigla'''<br>''to the following degree'' ||'''hiijaga'''<br>''of the following age'' |- valign=top ! Distal |'''hua'''<br>''that''||'''huta'''<br>''that person’s''|| '''huyena'''<br>''that kind of'' ||'''hugla'''<br>''that much/many'' ||'''hujaga'''<br>''of that age'' |- valign=top ! Intensive |'''huua'''<br>''such a''||'''huuta'''<br>''such a person’s''|| '''huuyena'''<br>''such kind of'' ||'''huugla'''<br>''so much/many'' ||'''huujaga'''<br>''of such an age'' |- valign=top ! Negative |'''hyoa'''<br>''no''||'''hyota'''<br>''nobody’s''|| '''hyoyena'''<br>''no kind of'' ||'''hyogla'''<br>''no amount/number of'' ||'''hyojaga'''<br>''of no age'' |- valign=top ! Distributive |'''hya'''<sup>1</sup><br>''every, all''||'''hyata'''<br>''everybody’s''|| '''hyayena'''<br>''every kind of'' ||'''hyagla'''<br>''all'' ||'''hyajaga'''<br>''of every age'' |- valign=top ! Indeterminate |'''hyea'''<br>''whichever/any''<sup>2</sup>||'''hyeta'''<br>''whosever''|| '''hyeyena'''<br>''whatever/any kind of'' ||'''hyegla'''<br>''however much/many'' ||'''hyejaga'''<br>''however old'' |- valign=top ! Identical |'''hyia'''<br>''the same''||'''hyita'''<br>''the same person’s''|| '''hyiyena'''<br>''the same kind of'' ||'''hyigla'''<br>''just as'' ||'''hyijaga'''<br>''just as old'' |- valign=top ! Non-identical |'''hyua'''<br>''the other''||'''hyuta'''<br>''someone else's''|| '''hyuyena'''<br>''another kind of'' ||'''hyugla'''<br>''not as much/many'' ||'''hyujaga'''<br>''of another age'' |} : There are other adjectival determiners such as '''duhonoga'''....''how/to what degree'', '''duhosauna'''....''what kind of'' that are not included in the above chart. :Note 1) The determiners '''ha''' (''the'') and '''hya''' (''every'') are shortened forms of '''haa''' and '''hyaa'''. Also, '''ha''' is commonly called a "definite article". ::* While '''hya''' means ''every'' or ''all'', the word '''hyawa''' is used for ''each''. ::* The possessive adjective forms in the above table ending in '''-ta''' such as '''hyeta'''....''whosever'' cannot be pluralized by the ending '''-tia'''. To say '''other people's''', use the expression '''bi hyuti''' (Lit. ''of others''). ::* The '''ho-''' words are relative, meaning that they can serve to form relative clauses like the following: :::* '''Ha toyb, <u>hota</u> twad se Bill,'''....''The woman, <u>whose</u> husband is Bill,'' :::* '''At voy te <u>hos</u> et tepfe.'''....''I don't know <u>what</u> you mean.'' :::* '''At teste <u>hogla</u> et fie iyt.'''....''I understand <u>how much</u> you love her.'' ::* The '''hoo-''' words are exclamatory and are used in expressions like the following: :::* '''<u>Hoogla</u> iva se at van et upa!'''....''<u>How</u> glad I am that you came!'' :::* '''<u>Hooa</u> jub his saye!'''....''<u>What a</u> day this has been!'' ('''Hooa''' is pronounced ''ho-O-a'' as three syllables.) :Note 2) The indeterminant determiners can also be translated with ''no matter what, no matter where, etc.'' ==== Deictic Determiner Pronouns ==== : All deictic determiner pronouns end either in '''-t''' for persons or '''-s''' for things. They can be singular or plural ('''-i'''). :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Pronouns |- valign=top ! !! Thing -s<br>Things -si !! Person -t<br>Persons -ti !! Kind of Thing -yenas<br>Kinds of Things -yenasi !! Amount -glas<br>Number of Things -glasi !! Number of People -glati |- valign=center ! Interrogative |'''duhos?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what?''<br>'''duhosi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what (things)?''|| '''duhot?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who?''<br>'''duhoti?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who (pl.)''|| '''duhoyenas?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what kind of thing?'' <br>'''duhoyenasi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;what kinds of things?|| '''duhoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how much?''<br>'''duhoglasi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many things?''|| '''duhoglati?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many people?'' |- valign=center ! Relative |'''hos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what''<br>'''hosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what''|| '''hot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who''<br>'''hoti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who''|| '''hoyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what kind of thing'' <br>'''hoyenasi'''|| '''hoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how much''<br>'''hoglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many''|| '''hoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many'' |- ! Exclamatory |'''hoos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a thing!''<br>'''hoosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what things!''|| '''hoot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a person!''<br>'''hooti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what people!''|| || '''hooglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what an amount!''<br>'''hooglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a number!''|| '''hoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a number of people!'' |- valign=center ! Definite |'''has'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''it''<br>'''hasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''they/them''|| '''hat'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''he/she/him/her''<br>'''hati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''they/them''|| '''hayenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the king of thing''<br>'''hayenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the kind of things''|| '''haglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the amount'' <br>'''haglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the number of things''|| '''haglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the number of people'' |- valign=center ! Indefinite |'''hes'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''something''<br>'''hesi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some things''|| '''het'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''someone''<br>'''heti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some''|| '''heyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some kind of thing'' <br>'''heyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some kinds of thing''|| '''heglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some''<br>'''heglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some things''|| '''heglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some people'' |- valign=center ! Proximal |'''his'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this''<br>'''hisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these''|| '''hit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this person''<br>'''hiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these people''|| '''hiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this kind of thing'' <br>'''hiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these kinds of things''|| '''higlas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this much''<br>'''higlasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this many''|| '''higlati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this many people'' |- valign=center ! Immediate |'''hiis'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following thing''<br>'''hiisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following things''|| '''hiit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following person''<br>'''hiiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following people''|| '''hiiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following kind of thing'' <br>'''hiiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following kinds of things''|| '''hiiglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following amount''<br>'''hiiglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this following number of things''|| '''hiiglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following number of people'' |- valign=center ! Distal |'''hus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that''<br>'''husi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those''|| '''hut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that person''<br>'''huti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those people''|| '''huyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that kind of thing'' <br>'''huyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those kinds of things''|| '''huglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that much''<br>'''huglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that many''|| '''huglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that many people'' |- valign=center ! Intensive |'''huus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a thing''<br>'''huusi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such things''|| '''huut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a person''<br>'''huuti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such people''|| '''huuyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a kind of thing'' <br>'''huuyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such kinds of things''|| '''huuglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so much''<br>'''huuglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so many''|| '''huuglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so many people'' |- valign=center ! Negative |'''hyos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''nothing''<br>'''hyosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none of them''|| '''hyot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''nobody''<br>'''hyoti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none of them''|| '''hyoyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''no kind of thing'' <br>'''hyoyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''no kinds of things''|| '''hyoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none''<br>'''hyoglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none''|| '''hyoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none'' |- valign=center ! Distributive |'''hyas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''everything''<br>'''hyasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyat'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''everybody''<br>'''hyati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyayenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''every kind of'' <br>'''hyayenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all kinds of things''|| '''hyaglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of it''<br>'''hyaglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyaglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them'' |- valign=center ! Indeterminate |'''hyes'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''anything''<br>'''hyesi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any''|| '''hyet'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''anybody''<br>'''hyeti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of them''|| '''hyeyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any kind of'' <br>'''hyeyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''whatever things''|| '''hyeglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of it''<br>'''hyeglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of them''|| '''hyeglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''whoever'' |- valign=center ! Identical |'''hyis'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same thing''<br>'''hyisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same things''|| '''hyit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same person''<br>'''hyiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same people''|| '''hyiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same kind of'' <br>'''hyiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same kinds of things''|| '''hyiglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as much''<br>'''hyiglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as many''|| '''hyiglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as many people'' |- valign=center ! Non-identical |'''hyus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''something else''<br>'''hyusi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other things''|| '''hyut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''someone else''<br>'''hyuti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other people''|| '''hyuyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another kind'' <br>'''hyuyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other kinds''|| '''hyuglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another amount''<br>'''hyuglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another number of things''|| '''hyuglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another number of people'' |} : Concerning the above chart, note the following: ::* The interrogative determiners all begin with '''duho-''', which means '''say which''', and are technically imperatives. '''Duhom?''', for example, means '''Tell (me) the place...'''. The '''o'''-stem forms without the '''du-''' are used as relative clause heads, eg. '''At po <u>hom</u> et po.'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''I will go <u>where</u> you go.'' ::* Interrogatives usually come at the beginning of a sentence as in English, eg. '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* Determiners come first before any other epithets of a noun, eg. '''<u>Hia</u> aga jaga tam...'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''<u>This</u> big old house...''. ::* Person and Thing determiners can be made selective by inserting '''a''' before the final '''t''' or '''s''', eg. '''Duhot?''' means ''Who?'', while '''Duhoat?''' means ''Which one (of several persons)?'' ==== Deictic Determiner Adverbs ==== : All deictic determiner adverbs refer to a circumstance. :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Adverbs |- valign=top ! Circumstance--> !! Place<br>-m !! Time<br>-j !! Manner<br>-yen!! Degree<br>-gla !! Frequency<br>-xag !! Reason<br>-sav |- valign=center ! Interrogative | '''duhom?'''<br>''where?'' || '''duhoj?'''<br>''when?'' || '''duhoyen?'''<br>''how?'' || '''duhogla?'''<br>''how (very)?'' || '''duhoxag?'''<br>''how often?''|| '''duavhos?'''<sup>1</sup><br>''why?'' |- valign=center ! Relative | '''hom'''<br>''where'' || '''hoj'''<br>''when'' || '''hoyen'''<br>''how'' || '''hogla'''<br>''how (very)'' || '''hoxag'''<br>''how often'' || '''avhos (van)<sup>2</sup>'''<br>''because'' |- valign=center ! Exclamatory | || || '''hooyen'''<br>''and how!, such a...'' || '''hoogla'''<br>''how very...!, so...''<sup>3</sup> || || |- valign=center ! Definite | '''ham'''<br>''the place'' || '''haj'''<br>''the time'' || '''hayen'''<br>''the manner'' || '''hagla'''<br>''just as'' || '''haxag'''<br>''as frequently''|| '''avhas'''<br>''the reason'' |- valign=center ! Indefinite | '''hem'''<br>''somewhere'' || '''hej'''<br>''sometime'' || '''heyen'''<br>''somehow'' || '''hegla'''<br>''somewhat'' || '''hexag'''<br>''somewhat often''||'''avhes'''<br>''for some reason'' |- valign=center ! Proximal | '''him'''<br>''here'' || '''hij'''<br>''now'' || '''hiyen'''<br>''this way'' || '''higla'''<br>''this'' || '''hixag'''<br>''this often''||'''avhis'''<br>''for this reason'' |- valign=center ! Immediate | '''hiim'''<br>''the following place'' || '''hiij'''<br>''the following time'' || '''hiiyen'''<br>''the following way'' || '''hiigla'''<br>''to the following degree'' || '''hiixag'''<br>''at the following frequency''||'''avhiis'''<br>''for the following reason'' |- valign=center ! Distal | '''hum'''<br>''there'' || '''huj'''<br>''then'' || '''huyen'''<br>''that way'' || '''hugla'''<br>''to that degree'' || '''huxag'''<br>''that often''|| '''avhus'''<br>''therefore'' |- valign=center ! Intensive | '''huum'''<br>''such a place'' || '''huuj'''<br>''at such a time'' || '''huuyen'''<br>''in such a way'' || '''huugla'''<br>''so (very)'' || '''huuxag'''<br>''so often''|| '''avhuus'''<br>''for such a reason'' |- valign=center ! Negative | '''hyom'''<br>''nowhere'' || '''hyoj'''<br>''never'' || '''hyoyen'''<br>''in no way'' || '''hyogla'''<br>''not at all'' || '''hyoxag'''<br>''not once''|| '''avhyos'''<br>''for no reason'' |- valign=center ! Distributive | '''hyam'''<br>''everywhere'' || '''hyaj'''<br>''always'' || '''hyayen'''<br>''in every way'' || '''hyagla'''<br>''fully'' || '''hyaxag'''<br>''always''||'''avhyas'''<br>''for every reason'' |- valign=center ! Indeterminate | '''hyem'''<br>''anywhere'' || '''hyej'''<br>''whenever'' || '''hyeyen'''<br>''however'' || '''hyegla'''<br>''however'' || '''hyexag'''<br>''however often'' || '''avhyes'''<br>''for whatever reason'' |- valign=center ! Indentical | '''hyim'''<br>''at the same place'' || '''hyij'''<br>''at the same time'' || '''hyiyen'''<br>''in the same way'' || '''hyigla'''<br>''as'' || '''hyixag'''<br>''as often''|| '''avhyis'''<br>''for the same reason'' |- valign=center ! Non-identical | '''hyum'''<br>''somewhere else'' || '''hyuj'''<br>''some other time'' || '''hyuyen'''<br>''otherwise'' || '''hyugla'''<br>''not as'' || '''hyuxag'''<br>''not as often''||'''avhyus'''<br>''for some other reason'' |} :Note 1) '''Duavhos?''' translates literally to "Say for what?". :Note 2) The positive complimentizer '''van''' is optional. :Note 3) A clause following '''hoogla''' <ADJ>/<ADV> must be followed by '''van''', eg. '''Et eka <u>hoogla fi van</u> ha teexuti byasa ab yiti tyoyabi.'''....''You played <u>so well that</u> the audience stood on their feet.'' : Concerning the above chart, note the following: :* The interrogative determiners all begin with '''duho-''', which means '''say which''', and are technically imperatives. '''Duhom?''', for example, means '''Tell (me) the place...'''. The '''o'''-stem forms without the '''du-''' are used as relative clause heads, eg. '''At po <u>hom</u> et po.'''....''I will go <u>where</u> you go.'' :* Interrogatives usually come at the beginning of a sentence as in English, eg. '''<u>Duhom</u> se eta tam?'''....''<u>Where</u> is your house?'' :* Not included in the above chart is a related interrogative, which is a complementizer. ::* '''Duven...?'''.... (Question introducer) '''Is it true that...?, Say whether...''' :::* '''<u>Duven</u> et se tadxwa?'''....''Are you married? (= <u>Say whether</u> you are married.)'' :* The adverbs of degree in the above chart ('''duhogla?''', etc.) are interchangeable with adverbs ending in '''-nog'''....''degree'' ('''duhonog?'''....''to what degree?, how...?'', '''henog'''....''somewhat'') :* Other deictic determiner adverbs of circumstance exist and are not on the above chart: ::* '''duhomep?'''....''which way?'' :::* '''humep'''....''that way'' ::* '''duhobyun?'''....''to what end?'' :::* '''hyobyun'''....''for no purpose'' ::* '''duhoizon?'''....''in which direction?'' :::* ''''hyaizon'''....''in every direction'' ==== Examples of Deictic Determiner Usage ==== ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ('''Duhos''' is pronounced '''du-HOS''') ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> se iyta twad?'''....''<u>Who</u> is her husband?'' ::* '''<u>Duhowat</u> se iyta twad?'''....''<u>Which one of the guys</u> is her husband?'' (selective) ::* '''<u>Duhoti</u> fe eker?'''....''<u>Who (pl.)</u> want to play?'' ::* '''<u>Hyas</u> se fia.'''....''<u>Everything</u> is fine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyat</u> tre et.'''....''<u>Everyone</u> knows you.'' ::* '''<u>Hyot</u> tre at.'''....''<u>Nobody</u> knows me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyati</u> ekeye fi.'''....''<u>All of them</u> are playing well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoti</u> ekeye fi.'''....''<u>None of them</u> are playing well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> yafe eker.'''....''<u>Anyone</u> can play.'' ::* '''<u>Hyes</u> yafwe.'''....''<u>Anything</u> is possible.'' ::* '''At fe <u>hyuyenat</u> be ata ekutyan.'''....''I want <u>someone else</u> on my team.'' ::* '''<u>Huuyenati</u> fyuxe yata oj.'''....''<u>Such people</u> harm our future.'' ::* '''Et yefe tepier <u>hiisi</u>.'''....''You must bear in mind <u>the following things</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et xa hus.'''.....''<u>How</u> did you do that?'' (pronounced '''du-ho-YEN''') ::* '''<u>Duavhos</u> iyt pia <u>huugla</u> jwa?'''....''<u>Why</u> did she leave <u>so</u> early?'' ::* '''<u>Hwita</u> tam se ga aga.'''....''<u>This guy's</u> house is bigger.'' ::* '''At voy ayse ha dyuni <u>bi huyti</u>.'''....''I don't have <u>those women's</u> names.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoa</u> tam se etas?'''....''<u>Which</u> house is yours?'' ::* '''<u>Huua</u> tej et ayse!'''....''<u>What a</u> life you have!'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyena</u> dyezuni ifxe et?'''....''<u>What kind of</u> movies do you like?'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> tef okwa?'''....''<u>Whose</u> hat was lost?'' ::* '''<u>Hota</u> tef okwa bese otwas.'''....''<u>Whose</u> hat was lost remains a mystery.'' ::* '''<u>Ha</u> tob ta yata dyuni.'''....''<u>The</u> man knew our names.'' ::* '''<u>Hoyena</u> dini at ife, et ufe.'''....''<u>The kind of</u> stories I love, you hate.'' ::* '''<u>Hea</u> mepi gawdyunxwo.'''....''<u>Certain</u> streets will be renamed.'' ::* '''<u>Heyena</u> fukyes uxaye purilp nyaunx.'''....''<u>Some kind of</u> accident has caused a traffic jam.'' ::* '''<u>Heta</u> abtaf kaxwa be ha zatem.'''.....''<u>Someone's</u> coat was found in the foyer.'' ::* '''<u>Hia</u> dyes se ata gwafwas.'''....''<u>This</u> book is my favorite.'' ::* '''<u>Hiia</u> duni se ofwa.'''....''<u>The following</u> words are prohibited.'' ::* '''<u>Hiiyena</u> axlyen voy afwu.'''....''<u>The following sort of</u> behavior would not be allowed.'' ::* '''<u>Hiyena</u> axlyen voy vayafwo.'''....''<u>This type of</u> behavior will not be tolerated.'' ::* '''<u>Hita</u> tim so yolza.'''....''<u>This person's</u> room will be blue.'' ::* '''<u>Hua</u> mas efwe gawvozilbwer.'''....''<u>That</u> wall needs to be repainted.'' ::* '''<u>Huua</u> dini yufxe tudi.'''....''<u>Such</u> stories scare children.'' ::* '''<u>Huyena</u> duni voy yeyfwe yixwer za at.'''....''<u>Such</u> words should not be used in front of me.'' ::* '''<u>Hwuta</u> tam magseye.'''....''<u>That guy's</u> house is on fire.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoa</u> din se ga kyitesa.'''....''<u>No</u> story is more important.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoyena</u> tes tesiyafwe.'''....''<u>No such</u> meaning can be inferred.'' ::* '''<u>Hyota</u> jatexdras sa ga fia.'''....''<u>Nobody's</u> plan is better.'' ::* '''<u>Hyos</u> oboxe huyt.'''....''<u>Nothing</u> bothers that gal.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> mepi izpe Roma.'''....''<u>All</u> roads lead to Rome.'' ::* '''<u>Hya ha</u> mepi se ebwa.'''....''<u>All the</u> roads are blocked.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> twob yefe xer ita gon.'''....''<u>Every</u> man must do his part.'' ::* '''<u>Hyayena</u> telami ese be hia domep.'''....''<u>All manner of</u> restaurants exist on this street.'' ::* '''<u>Hyata</u> tej se uka bi yaobi.'''....''<u>Everyone's</u> life is full of ups and downs.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaewa</u> domi agsaye.'''....''<u>Both</u> cities have grown.'' ::* '''<u>Hyea</u> voz so fia.'''....''<u>Any</u> color will be fine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeyena</u> til se aysyafwa.'''....''<u>Any kind of</u> drink is available.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeta</u> ved se ge ifa vyel atas.'''....''<u>Anyone's</u> guess is as good as mine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyea</u> tim et fe et yafe ayser.'''....''<u>Whatever</u> room you want, you can have.'' ::* '''<u>Hyia</u>/(Ha gea) fukyesi kyese glaxag.'''....''<u>The same</u> accidents occur frequently.'' ::* '''<u>Hyiyena</u>/(Ha geyena) dyezuni teaxuwa zajub.'''....''<u>The same kind of</u> films were shown yesterday.'' ::* '''<u>Hyita</u>/(Ha geta) dyun yixwa gajod.'''....''<u>The same person's</u> name was used again.'' ::* '''<u>Hyua</u> dyezun sa ga ifuyea.'''....''<u>The other</u> movie was more entertaining.'' ::* '''<u>Hyuyena</u>/(Ogeyena) som teasu ga fia.'''....''<u>Another kind of</u> furniture would look better.'' ::* '''<u>Hyuta</u>/(ogeta) texyen se ge fyia.'''....''<u>Someone else's</u> opinion is equally valid.'' ::* '''Ha dyuni <u>bi hiyti</u> voy dodrawe.'''....''<u>These women's</u> names have not been made public.'' ::* '''Ha dyuni <u>bi hwiiti</u> voy dodrowe.'''....''<u>The following males'</u> names will not be publicized.'' ::* '''<u>Hijaga</u> tobweti voy afwo him.'''....''Boys <u>of this age</u> will not be allowed here.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> et tambese?'''....''<u>Where</u> do you live?'' ::* '''At tambese <u>hum</u>.'''....''I live <u>there</u>.'' ::* '''Et tambese <u>hom</u> ha mep uje.'''....''You live <u>where</u> the road ends.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> yet peye?'''....''<u>Where</u> are you people going?'' ::* '''Et yafe per <u>hyem</u> et fu.'''....''You can go <u>anywhere</u> you would like.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> et byise?'''....''<u>Where</u> are you from?'' (Lit: ''Where do you originate?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoj</u> et taja?'''....''<u>When</u> were you born?'' ::* '''At voy tajaya <u>huj</u>.'''....''I had not been born <u>then</u>.'' ::* '''Et yeyfe duder <u>hiiyen</u>.'''....''You should respond <u>in the following way</u>.'' ::* '''Ot voy yefe daler <u>huuyen</u>.'''....''One must not talk <u>in such a manner</u>.'' ::* '''Et pia <u>hesav</u>.'''....''He left <u>for some reason</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et iyfe hia vifil?'''....''<u>How</u> do like this wine?'' ::* '''Voy se fia axler <u>hiyen</u>.'''....''It is not good to act <u>this way</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duavhos</u> et tadia <u>huugla</u> jwa?'''....''<u>Why</u> did you marry <u>so</u> late?'' ::* '''Ha twob pia <u>avhyos</u>.'''....''The man left <u>for no reason</u>.'' ::* '''Hwat pia <u>avhos van</u> it efa per hem.'''....''The guy left <u>because</u> he needed to go somewhere.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeta</u> texyen so fia.'''....''<u>Anyone</u>'s opinion will be fine.'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> dyes se his?'''....''Whose book is this?'' ::* '''<u>Bi hoti</u> se hia dyesi?'''....''Whose are these books?'' ::* '''<u>Hyata</u> tili yebexe yom.'''....''<u>Everyone's</u> drinks contain ice.'' ::* '''Et se gaj <u>geyenat</u>( ~ <u>hyiyenat</u>).'''....''You are still <u>the same kind of person</u>.'' ::* '''At se <u>hoogla iva van</u> et upa!'''....''I am <u>so happy that</u> you came!'' ::* '''Yat tose <u>hyigla (van)</u> yet.'''....''We feel <u>(the same way) as</u> you (do).'' : Note, '''hyigla''' can be replaced with '''gel''': ::* '''Yet tose <u>gel</u> yet.'''....''We feel <u>as</u> you do.'' : The semantic reverser '''o-''' can be prefixed to some of the above deictic determiners: :: '''<u>Ohyat</u> tiste Platon.'''....''<u>Not everyone</u> understands Plato.'' :: '''<u>Ohut!</u>'''....''Not that person!'' :: '''At iyfe gwa apovili, oy <u>ohuas</u>!'''....''I like most beers, but <u>not that one</u>!'' : If the definite article or any other deictic determiner is omitted before a noun, then it has the effect of the English indefinite article ''a / an'' with a singular noun or ''some'' with a plural noun. For example: ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ha tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>a glass</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ha tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>(some) glasses</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>awa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>one glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha awa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the one glass</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>two glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the two glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>hyaewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>both glasses</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>owa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>no/zero glasses (=not a single glass)</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ea tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>another/a second glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ea tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the second glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ea tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>second glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ea tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the second glasses</u> of wine.'' : If an indefinite article sense is needed for clarity, the words '''awa''' (''one'') or '''hea''' (''some, a certain'') can be used, eg.: ::* '''At igteata <u>awa</u> tob yiztyoper.'''....''I glimpsed <u>a</u> man walk by.'' ::* '''Wit zoyupo <u>hea</u> jub.'''....''He will come back <u>a / a certain / some</u> day.'' ==== Selective vs. Non-Selective Forms ==== : The deictic interrogative determiner pronoun '''duhot?''' means ''who(m)'' and contrasts with its '''''selective''''' counterpart '''duhoat?''', which means ''which one?''. All the selective determiners refer to one or more things or persons from a selectable pool of things or persons. : The following sentences illustrate the use of the above determiner pronouns: ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> aka zajuba ek?'''....''<u>Who</u> won yesterday's game?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoat</u> bi ha akuti sa ha gwa fiat?'''....''<u>Which one</u> of the winners was the best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> tam se hus?'''....''<u>Whose</u> house is that?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotas</u> se hus?'''....''<u>Whose</u> is that?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotia</u> deuzi et gaife?'''....''<u>Whose</u> songs do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotias</u> et gaife?'''....''<u>Whose</u> do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* '''<u>Duhosi</u> se eta gaifuni?'''....''<u>What</u> are your preferences?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoa</u> deuzi se eta gwa fiasi?'''....''<u>Which</u> songs are your best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoasi</u> se eta gwa fiasi?'''....''<u>Which ones</u> are your best?'' ::* '''Bi hia deuzuti, <u>hoat</u> et gaife?'''....''Of these vocalists, <u>which one</u> do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Hiiti</u> yaneko hijub.'''....''<u>The following people</u> will compete today.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoati</u> se gwa fia?'''....''<u>Which ones</u> are best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoti</u> et teexe gwa jodi?'''....''<u>Who (all)</u> do you listen to the most often?'' ::* '''<u>Hoat</u> at teexe gwaxag draye ejna deuz.'''....''<u>The one</u> I listen to the most has written a new song.'' ::* '''Ejna deuz? At voy teste <u>hoas</u> et tede.'''....''New song? I don't understand <u>which one</u> you mean.'' ::* '''<u>Hias</u>.'''....''<u>This one</u>.'' ::* '''Vo. <u>Huasi</u> se ga fia.'''....''No. <u>Those</u> are better.'' ::* '''<u>His</u> se jub av ivxelen.'''....''<u>This</u> is a day for celebration.'' ::* '''Va. <u>Hia</u> jub. At tese <u>hi</u>jub.'''....''Yes. <u>This</u> day. I mean <u>To-</u>day.'' ::* '''<u>Husi</u> sa <u>ha</u> jubi, ata dat!'''....''<u>Those</u> were <u>the</u> days, my friend!'' ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> aka ha igpek?'''....''<u>Who</u> won the race?'' ::* '''<u>Hyas</u> uja fi.'''....''<u>Everything</u> ended well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyasi</u> uje.'''....''<u>All things</u> come to an end.'' ::* '''<u>Hyayenasi</u> vey kyesu.'''....''<u>All sorts of things</u> might happen.'' ::* '''<u>Hyos</u> yokxa at.'''....''<u>Nothing</u> surprised me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyot</u> ta hot ako.'''....''<u>Nobody</u> knew who would win.'' ::* '''<u>Hoayti</u> fu pier yefe.'''....''<u>Those females</u> who would like to leave may.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> yefe eker hia ifek.'''....''<u>Anyone</u> can play this game.'' ::* '''<u>Huyenasi</u> voy afwo.'''....''<u>Such things</u> will not be permitted.'' ::* '''<u>Hua twob</u> voy taxe hia toyb.'''....''<u>That</u> man does not remember this woman.'' ::* '''<u>Hwuti</u> yanyexe fi.'''....''<u>Those guys</u> work well together.'' ::* '''<u>Huuyti</u> hyaj yubixe tepzex.'''....''<u>Such females</u> always attract attention.'' ::* '''At jay teataye <u>hiyenasi</u>.'''....''I've seen <u>such things</u> before.'' ::* '''<u>Huyenwat</u> voy vabiwu.'''....''<u>A guy like that</u> would not be accepted.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyenasi</u> weti iyfe xer je ha maj.'''....''<u>What kinds of things</u> do you guys like to do during the day?'' === Numerical Deictic Determiners === : Sometimes, a deictic determiner specifies numerical information. This chart shows those forms: :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Number-incorporating Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! Adjective !! Inanimate Pronoun !! Animate Pronoun !! Pronominal Determiner !! Possessive Pronoun |- | '''hawa'''<sup>1</sup><br> ''the only'' || '''hawas'''<br>''the only thing''<br>'''hawasi'''<br>''the only things'' || '''hawat'''<br>''the only one (person)''<br>'''hawati'''<br>''the only ones''|| '''hawata'''<br>''the only person&apos;s'' || '''hawatas'''<br>''the only one&apos;s''<br>'''hawatasi'''<br>''the only one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyawa'''*<br> ''each'' || '''hyawas'''<br>''each one'' || '''hyawat'''<br>''each person''|| '''hyawata'''<br>''each person&apos;s'' || '''hyawatas'''<br>''each one&apos;s''<br>'''hyawatasi'''<br>''each one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyaewa'''<br>''both'' || '''hyaewasi'''<br>''both (<small>things</small>)'' || '''hyaewati'''<br>''both (<small>people</small>)''|| '''bi hyaewati'''<br>''both person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyaewati'''<br>''both person&apos;s''<br>'''hasi bi hyaewati'''<br>''both persone&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyaiwa'''<br>''all three'' || '''hyaiwasi'''<br>''all three (<small>things</small>)'' || '''hyaiwati'''<br>''all three (<small>people</small>)''|| '''hyaiwata'''<br>''all three person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyaiwati'''<br>''all three person&apos;s''<br>'''hasi bi hyaiwati'''<br>''all three person&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''ohyawa'''<br>''not every'' || '''ohyawas'''<br>''not everything'' || '''ohyawat'''<br>''not everyone''|| '''ohyawata'''<br>''not every person&apos;s'' || '''ohyawatas'''<br>''not everyone&apos;s''<br>'''ohyawatasi'''<br>''not everyone&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyoawa'''<br>''not a single'' || '''hyoawas'''<br>''not a single thing'' || '''hyoawat'''<br>''not a single person''|| '''hyowata'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s'' || '''hyowatas'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s''<br>'''hyowatasi'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyeawa'''<br>''either'' || '''hyeawas'''<br>''either one'' || '''hyeawat'''<br>''either one (<small>person</small>)''|| '''hyeawata'''<br>''either one&apos;s'' || '''hyeawatas'''<br>''either one&apos;s''<br>'''hyeawatasi'''<br>''either one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyeewa'''<br>''any two'' || '''hyeewasi'''<br>''any two things'' || '''hyeewati'''<br>''any two people''|| '''bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two persons&apos;''<br>'''hasi bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two persons&apos; (things)'' |- | '''hyeowa'''<br>''neither'' || '''hyeowas'''<br>''neither one'' || '''hyeowat'''<br>''neither person''|| '''hyeawata'''<br>''neither person&apos;s'' || '''hyeowatas'''<br>''neither one&apos;s''<br>'''hyeowatasi'''<br>''neither one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyuawa'''<br>''another'' || '''hyuawas'''<br>''another one'' || '''hyuawat'''<br>''another''|| '''hyuawata'''<br>''another&apos;s'' || '''hyuawatas'''<br>''another&apos;s''<br>'''hyuawatasi'''<br>''another&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyuowa'''<br>''no other'' || '''hyuowas'''<br>''nothing else'' || '''hyuowat'''<br>''nobody else''|| '''hyuowata'''<br>''no other&apos;s'' || '''hyuowatas'''<br>''no other&apos;s''<br>'''hyuowatasi'''<br>''no other&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''gawa'''<sup>2</sup><br>''another'' || '''gawas'''<br>''another one'' || '''gawat'''<br>''another (person)''|| '''gawata'''<br>''another&apos;s'' || '''gawatas'''<br>''another&apos;s''<br>'''gawatasi'''<br>''another&apos;s (things)'' |} <small> :: Note 1) '''Hawa''' and '''hyawa''' are short for '''haawa''' and '''hyaawa''', respectively. :: Note 2) '''Gawa''' is short for '''ga awa''', ''yet one''. </small> ==== Notes on Numerical Deictic Determiners ==== : Examples using the above number-incorporating deictic determiners: ::* '''<u>Ohyawat</u> se iva bay eta vaod.'''....''<u>Not everyone</u> is happy with your decision.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaewasi</u> yafwe uxler yata efoni.'''....''<u>Both (things)</u> can serve our needs.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeawa</u> tim ivlaxo at.'''....''<u>Either</u> room will satisfy me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowas</u> oivlaxo at.'''....''<u>Neither one</u> will dissatisfy me.'' : Note: ::* '''hyua''' means ''another (an alternative)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hyua</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>another (a different)</u> drink.'' ::* '''hyuawa''' means ''another (an additional)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hyuawa</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>another (an additional)</u> drink.'' ::* '''ha hyua''' means ''the other (the alternative)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>ha hyua</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>the other</u> drink.'' : Similarly, '''hya''' means ''every, all'', while '''hyawa''' means ''each'', and '''hyaha'''....''all the'', ex: ::* '''<u>Hya</u> dom ayse tebixea suni teaxer.'''....''<u>Every</u> city has interesting things to see.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> domi ayse tebixusi.'''....''<u>All</u> cities have things of interest.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaha</u> domi ayse tebixusi.'''....''<u>All the</u> cities have things of interest.'' ::* '''<u>Hyawa</u> dom ayse tebixun.'''....''<u>Each</u> city has something of interest.'' : Also, '''ha''' means ''the'', while '''hawa''' means ''the only'', eg.: ::* '''<u>Ha</u> twob hu at gwa ife se et.'''....''<u>The</u> man I most love is you.'' ::* '''<u>Hawa</u> toyb nazea ata tepzex se et.'''....''<u>The only</u> woman worth my attention is you.'' : By appending '''y''' to '''hawa''', we get the adverb '''haway'''....''only, solely'', eg; ::* '''<u>Haway</u> et nize ata tepzex.'''....''<u>Only</u> you deserve my attention.''. : The singular person pronouns in the above chart can be converted into pronominal determiners by adding the adjective suffix '''a''', eg.: ::* '''<u>Hyawata</u> tej se ge glatesa vyel hyutas.'''....''<u>Each one's</u> life is as important as another's.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowata</u> dyun se vyama.'''....''<u>Neither person's</u> name is real.'' : However, the plural person pronouns in the above chart use the preposition '''bi''' (''of'') to form possessives, eg.: ::* '''Ha teji <u>bi hyaiwati</u> se kyebukuwa.'''....''The lives <u>of all three</u> are in danger.'' : The above singular pronominal determiners can, in turn, be converted into inanimate pronouns with the suffix '''-s'''. ::* '''<u>Hyawatas</u> se glatesa.'''....''<u>Each one's</u> is important.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowatas</u> se vyama.'''....''<u>Neither's</u> is real.'' : The plural pronominal determiners can be nominalized with the use of '''bi''', eg: ::* '''<u>Hyaiwasi</u> <u>bi huti</u> se kyebukuwa.'''....''<u>All three</u> <u>of theirs'</u> are in danger.'' : Correlative Number-incorporating Deictic Determiners are handled as follows: ::* '''Hyeawa A ey B'''....''either A or B'' ::* '''Hyeowa A oy B'''....''neither A nor B'' ::* '''Hyaewa A ay B'''....''both A and B'' ::* '''Hawa A, voy B'''....''only A, not B'' : The different, somewhat confusing, meanings of ''how'' are illustrated here: ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> wit xa hus?'''....''<u>How</u> did he do that?''.... (Equivalent to '''Be duha byen...?'''....''In what way...?'') (ADVERB OF MANNER) ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et xeye?'''....''<u>How</u> are you doing?''.... (This is the normal way of saying ''How are you?'' or ''How do you do?'' (ADVERB OF MANNER) ::* '''<u>Duhoyena</u> sa ha dyezun?'''....'' <u>How</u> was the film?''.... (''How'' here is an ADJECTIVE OF KIND, and thus ends in '''-a'''.) ::* '''<u>Duhonog (= Duhogla)</u> aga it se?'''....''<u>How</u> big is he?''.... (ADVERB OF DEGREE) ::* '''<u>Huunog (= Huugla)</u> iyfla et se!'''....''<u>How</u> nice you are!''.... (ADVERB OF EMPHATIC DEGREE) : The conjunction ''as'' is expressed most often using relative pro-adverbs of manner: ::* '''Xu <u>hoyen</u> at de.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I say.'' = (in) the way that... ::* '''Xu <u>hyiyen</u>''' (~ '''geyen''') '''at xe.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I do. ( = (in) the same way that...)'' ::* '''Xu <u>hiiyen</u>:'''....''Do <u>as follows</u>. ( = (in) this hereby manner...)'' : However, the preposition/conjunction '''gel''' (''like, as'') can be substituted: ::* '''Xu <u>gel</u> at de.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I say.'' : Many of the determiner adverbs in the above chart can be used in relative clauses, eg: ::* '''At teato et <u>hoj</u> et puo him.'''....''I will see you <u>when</u> you get here.'' ::* '''It xa has <u>avhos van</u> tosa yefa.'''....''He did it <u>because (for the reason that)</u> he felt compelled.'' ::* '''<u>Hyem</u> et po, et so ga iva.'''....''<u>Wherever</u> you go, you'll be happier.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> te ha did, yabu eta tuyab.'''....''<u>Whoever</u> knows the answer, raise your hand.'' ::* '''At te <u>hoyen</u> et xa is.'''....''I know <u>how</u> you did it.'' : See more about this in the section on [[Mirad_Grammar/Syntax#Relative_Clauses|relative clauses under Syntax]]. === Pronominal Deictic Determiners === : Some words in Mirad incorporate deictic prefixes with pronouns and pronominal adjectives, as shown in the following chart: {{small/top}} :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size;smaller;" |+ Pronominal Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! colspan=3 | Pronoun |- ! 1st Person Plural !! 2nd Person Plural !! 3rd Person Plural |- | '''duhoyat'''<br>''which of us'' || '''duhoyet'''<br>''which of you'' || '''duhoyit'''<br>''which of them'' |- | '''heyat'''<br>''some of us'' || '''heyet'''<br>''some of you'' || '''heyit'''<br>''which of them'' |- | '''hyayat'''<br>''each of us'' || '''hyayet'''<br>''each of you'' || '''hyayit'''<br>''each of them'' |- | '''hyeyat'''<br>''any of us'' || '''hyeyet'''<br>''any of you'' || '''hyeyit'''<br>''any of them'' |- | '''hyoyat'''<br>''none of us'' || '''hyoyet'''<br>''none of you'' || '''hyoyit'''<br>''none of them'' |- ! colspan=3 | Pronominal Adjective |- ! 1st Person (Plural) !! 2nd Person (Plural) !! 3rd Person (Plural) |- | '''duhoyata'''<br>''which of our'' || '''duhoyet'''<br>''which of your'' || '''duhoyita'''<br>''which of their'' |- | '''heyata'''<br>''some of our'' || '''heyeta'''<br>''some of your'' || '''heyita'''<br>''which of their'' |- | '''hyayata'''<br>''each of our'' || '''hyayeta'''<br>''each of your'' || '''hyayita'''<br>''each of their'' |- | '''hyeyata'''<br>''any of our'' || '''hyeyeta'''<br>''any of your'' || '''hyeyita'''<br>''any of their'' |- ! colspan=3 | Singular/(Plural) Possessive Pronoun |- ! 1st Person (Plural) !! 2nd Person (Plural) !! 3rd Person (Plural) |- | '''duhoyatas(i)'''<br>''which of ours'' || '''duhoyetas(i)'''<br>''which of yours'' || '''duhoyitas(i)'''<br>''which of theirs'' |- | '''heyatas(i)'''<br>''some of ours'' || '''heyetas(i)'''<br>''some of yours'' || '''heyitas(i)'''<br>''which of theirs'' |- | '''hyayatas(i)'''<br>''each of ours'' || '''hyayetas(i)'''<br>''each of yours'' || '''hyayitas(i)'''<br>''each of theirs'' |- | '''hyeyatas(i)'''<br>''any of ours'' || '''hyeyetas(i)'''<br>''any of yours'' || '''hyeyitas(i)'''<br>''any of theirs'' |- | '''hyoyatas(i)'''<br>''none of ours'' || '''hyoyetas(i)'''<br>''none of yours'' || '''hyoyitas(i)'''<br>''none of theirs'' |} {{small/end}} : The above possessive pronouns refer to things. If you replace the final '''-s''' or '''-si''', to '''-t''' or '''-ti''', then they become animate and refer to people, eg.: ::* '''Ese ewa tudi him. Duhoyitas se his?'''....''There are two children here. Which one of theirs is this?'' : All of the forms in the above chart can also be expressed as separate words, eg.: ::* '''Duhoyet?'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Duhoat bi yet?'''....''Which one of you?'' ::* '''Hyayat'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaglati bi yet'''....''All of us.'' ::* '''Hyoyatasi'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyogla yatasi'''....''All of ours (things)'' Note: ::* '''Awayat'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Awat bi yat'''....''one of us'' ::* '''Hyaewayet'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaewat bi yet'''....''both of you'' ::* '''Hyaiwayit'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaiwat bi yit'''....''all three of them'' === Quantitative Deictic Determiners === : The deictic prefixes can be combined with '''gla''' to form quantitative expressions acting as adverbial or adjectival determiners, and substantives (pronouns referring to things or people): {{small/top}} :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size;smaller;" |+ Quantitative Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! !! Adverbial / Adjectival<br>Determiner !! Inanimate Singular<br>Pronoun !! Inanimate Plural <br>Pronoun !! Animate Plural<br>Pronoun |- !row=1|Interrogative | '''duhogla?'''<br>''how?/how much?/how many?'' || '''duhoglas?'''<br>''how much?'' || '''duhoglasi?'''<br>''how many'' || '''duhoglati?'''<br>''how many (people)?'' |- !row=1|Relative | '''hogla'''<br>''as many/much'' || '''hoglas'''<br>''how much'' || '''duhoglasi'''<br>''how many'' || '''duhoglati'''<br>''how many (as)'' |- !row=1|Definite | '''hagla'''<br>''how/as much/as many'' || '''haglas'''<br>''as much'' || '''haglasi'''<br>''as many'' || '''haglati'''<br>''as many (people)'' |- !row=1|Indefinite | '''hegla'''<br>''somewhat/some/some'' || '''heglas'''<br>''some'' || '''heglasi'''<br>''some'' || '''heglati'''<br>''some (people)'' |- !row=1|Proximal | '''higla'''<br>''this/this much/this many'' || '''higlas'''<br>''this much'' || '''higlasi'''<br>''this many'' || '''higlati'''<br>''this many (people)'' |- !row=1|Distal | '''hugla'''<br>''that/that much/that many'' || '''huglas'''<br>''that much'' || '''huglasi'''<br>''that many'' || '''huglati'''<br>''that many (people)'' |- !row=1|Intensive | '''huugla'''<br>''so very, so much, so many'' || '''huuglas'''<br>''so much'' || '''huuglasi'''<br>''so many'' || '''huuglati'''<br>''so many (people)'' |- !row=1|Negative | '''hyogla'''<br>''none, not very'' || '''hyoglas'''<br>''none of it'' || '''hyoglasi'''<br>''none of them '' || '''hyoglati'''<br>''none'' |- !row=1|Distributive | '''hyagla'''<br>''totally/all/all'' || '''hyaglas'''<br>''all of it'' || '''hyaglasi'''<br>''all of them'' || '''hyaglati'''<br>''all'' |- !row=1|Indeterminate | '''hyegla'''<br>''however/any/any'' || '''hyeglas'''<br>''any of it'' || '''hyeglasi'''<br>''any of them'' || '''hyeglati'''<br>''any number of them'' |- !row=1|Identical | '''hyigla'''<br>''as/as much/as many, equally'' || '''hyiglas'''<br>''the same amount'' || '''hyiglasi'''<br>''the same number'' || '''hyiglati'''<br>''as many (people)'' |- !row=1|Non-identical | '''hyugla'''<br>''not as much/not as much/not as many'' || '''hyuglas'''<br>''a different amount'' || '''hyuglasi'''<br>''a different number of things'' || '''hyuglati'''<br>''a different number of people'' |} {{Small/end}} : Here are some examples showing how these quantitative determiners are used: ::* '''Et deuze <u>huugla</u> fi.'''....''You sing <u>so</u> well.'' ::* '''At se <u>hegla</u> booka.'''....''I am <u>somewhat</u> tired.'' ::* '''<u>Duhogla</u> pati et teata hijub?'''....''<u>How many</u> birds did you see today?'' ::* '''At teata vyavay <u>hugla</u> tami.'''....''I saw exactly <u>that many</u> houses.'' ::* '''Iyt fe <u>hyiglas</u> vyel et.'''....''She wants <u>the same amount</u> as you.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoglati</u> yantexe yet?'''....''<u>How many (people)</u> agree with you?'' ::* '''<u>Hyoglati</u> yantexe.'''....''<u>None</u> agree.'' ::* '''Yit fu <u>heglasi</u>.'''....''They would like <u>some (of them)</u>.'' ::* '''Et yafe bier <u>hyeglasi</u> et fe.'''....''You can take <u>however many</u> you want.'' ::* '''Besu bay at <u>hogla</u> job et fe.'''....''Stay <u>as</u> long with me as you want.'' ::* '''At se <u>huugla</u> booka.'''....''I am <u>so</u> tired.'' : NOTE: The following determiners are synonymous and interchangeable: ::* '''hegla''' = '''gle''' = '''henog''' (''somewhat, to some degree'') ::* '''hyigla''' = '''ge''' = '''hyinog''' (''as, equally, to the same degree'') : The determiner ''huugla'' can be used as an exclamatory adverb, eg.: ::* '''<u>Huugla</u> et agsaye!'''....''<u>How</u> you have grown!'' ::* '''Hua twob jagsaye <u>huugla</u>!'''....''That man has aged <u>so much</u>!'' ::* '''Hia jotul se <u>huugla</u> fiteluza!'''....''This dessert is <u>sooo</u> delicious!'' == Pronominal Determiners == : Pronominal Determiners are what are more often called '''''possessive adjectives''''' such as ''my'' or ''your'' and are discussed in a subsection of [[Mirad Grammar/Pronouns#Pronominal Determiners|Pronouns]]. == Quantitative Determiners == : '''''Quantitative determiners''''' act in one of several ways, they: ::* specify mass, uncountable, singular nouns for relative AMOUNT, eg. ''much happiness, less work'' ::* specify countable nouns for relative NUMBER, eg. ''one apple, two birds, many places'' ::* specify adverbs, adjectives, and verbs for relative DEGREE, eg. ''how poorly, very good, eat too much''. : From these, pronominalized quantitative determiners for PERSONS and THINGS can be derived. ::* Inanimate singular pronouns are formed by adding '''s''' for AN AMOUNT OF A THING ::* Inanimate plural pronouns are formed by adding '''si''' for A NUMBER OF THINGS ::* Animate plural pronouns are formed by adding '''ti''' for A NUMBER OF PERSONS. : The following table presents most of these word forms (Note that the determiners are in a plus (+), equal (=), or minus (-) row.): {| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; margin-left:1.6em; font-size:smaller;" |+ Quantitative Determiners |- !colspan=2|Adverb / Adjective !! Singular Pronoun !!colspan=2| Plural Pronoun |- !colspan=2|Degree/Amount/Number !! Amount !! Number of Things !! Number of People |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''ga'''....''more'' || '''gas'''....''more (stuff)'' || '''gasi'''....''many (things)'' || '''gati'''....''many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''ge'''....''as, as much, as many'' || '''ges'''....''as much (stuff)'' || '''gesi'''....''as many (things)'' || '''geti'''....''as many people'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''go'''....''less, fewer'' || '''gos'''....''less (stuff)'' || '''gosi'''....''fewer (things)'' || '''goti'''....''fewer (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gla'''....''very, much, many''<br>'''glay'''....''so, so much, so many''<br>'''glaa'''....''several'' || '''glas'''....''much (stuff)''<br>'''glays'''....''so much stuff'') || '''glasi'''....''many (things)''<br>'''glaysi'''....''so many (things)''<br>'''glaasi'''....''several things''|| '''glati'''....''many (people)''<br>'''glayti'''....''so many (people)''<br>'''glaati'''....''several people'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gle'''....''rather, quite a lot, quite a few'' || '''gles'''....''quite a lot (of stuff)'' || '''glesi'''....''quite a lot (of things)'' || '''gleti'''....''quite a few (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''glo'''....''slightly, a little, few'' || '''glos'''....''a little bit'' || '''glosi'''....''a few (things)'' || '''gloti'''....''few (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gra'''....''too, too much, too many'' || '''gras'''....''too much (stuff)'' || '''grasi'''....''too many (things)'' || '''grati'''....''too many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gre'''....''enough'' || '''gres'''....''enough (stuff)'' || '''gresi'''....''enough (things)'' || '''greti'''....''enough (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''gro'''....''insufficiently, too little, too few'' || '''gros'''....''too little'' || '''grosi'''....''too few'' || '''groti'''....''too few (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gwa'''....''most'' || '''gwas'''....''the most (stuff)'' || '''gwasi'''....''the most (things)'' || '''gwati'''....''most people'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gwe'''....''just so (much/many)'' || '''gwes'''....''just so much'' || '''gwesi'''....''just so many'' || '''gweti'''....''just so many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''gwo'''....''least'' || '''gwos'''....''the least (stuff)'' || '''gwosi'''....''the least (number of)'' || '''gwoti'''....''the least number (of people)'' |} : Examples Using Graded Quantitative Determiners :: Adverbs of degree modifying an adjective: :::* '''At se <u>gla</u> iva.'''....''I am <u>very</u> happy.'' :::* '''Et sa <u>gra</u> uga.'''....''You were <u>too</u> slow.'' :: Adverbs of Degree modifying another adverb: :::* '''Twobi dale <u>ge</u> igay vyel toybi.'''....''Men talk <u>as</u> fast as women.'' :::* '''Yat yexe <u>ga igay</u> vyel yet.'''....''We work faster (= <u>more quickly</u>) than you.'' :: Adjectives quantifying a singular mass noun: :::* '''<u>Ga</u> nas efwo.'''....''<u>More</u> money will be needed.'' :::* '''<u>Gra</u> nas noxwa.'''....''<u>Too much</u> money was spent.'' :: Adjectives quantifying a plural countable noun (= things or people): :::* '''At ayse <u>gro</u> sari.'''....''I've got <u>too few</u> tools.'' :::* '''<u>Gla</u> tami osexwa.'''....''<u>Many</u> houses were destroyed.'' :::* '''Yat efe <u>gla ga</u> valkdibuti.'''....''We need <u>many more</u> policemen.'' :: Pronouns referring to a mass amount of something (= stuff): :::* '''<u>Gas</u> ilokeye.'''....''<u>More (stuff)</u> is leaking.'' :::* '''Et dileye <u>gras</u>.'''....''You are asking for <u>too much (stuff)</u>.'' :::* '''Yat kexo <u>gwas</u>.'''....''We will seek <u>as much (stuff) as possible</u>.'' :::* '''At iba <u>gwes</u>.'''....''I received <u>just the right amount.</u>'' :: Pronouns referring to a countable number of things: :::* '''Hisi se fia oy yat fe <u>gasi</u>.'''....''These (items) are good but we want <u>more (items)</u>.'' :::* '''At teate drilari oy <u>grosi</u>.'''....''I see pens, but <u>too few</u>.'' :: Pronouns referring to a countable number of people: :::* '''<u>Grati</u> xaye vyoki be hia yexem.'''....''<u>Too many (people)</u> have made mistakes at this work site.'' :::* '''<u>Glati</u> dyunwe oy <u>gloti</u> kebiwe.'''....''<u>Many</u> are called but <u>few</u> are chosen.'' == Numerical Determiners == : This category of determiners, which includes cardinal, ordinal and other number words like ''two'', ''a tenth'', and ''first'', is such a vast topic that it is treated in its own chapter [[Mirad_Grammar/Numbers]] <noinclude>{{Chapter navigation with TOC|Adverbs|Numbers}}</noinclude> sbwjsl11f825y7om1cy721awso815yo 4520838 4520835 2025-07-01T19:22:30Z Tyoyafud 6233 /* Notes on Numerical Deictic Determiners */ 4520838 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>{{status|100%}}</noinclude> : Determiners are words that specify or point out the context of nouns and other parts of speech. The English determiner ''this'', for example, specifies a noun for its proximity to the current context. In English, demonstrative pronouns/adjectives/adverbs, possessive pronouns/adjectives, quantifiers like ''more'' and ''very'', and numeric expressions like ''both'' fall under this category. == Types of Determiners == : Determiners in Mirad fall into the following categories: ::{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Types of Determiners |- ! Type !! Also Known As !! English Examples |- !row=1| Deictic | Demonstrative Pronouns/Adjectives/Adverbs || ''the'', ''this'', ''some'', ''every'', ''which?'', ''when'' |- !row=1| Pronominal | Possessive Pronouns/Adjectives | ''my'', ''anybody&apos;s'', ''one&apos;s own'' |- !row=1| Quantitative | Quantifiers || ''more'', ''less'', ''very'' |- !row=1| Numerical | Numerals/Fractions/Ordinals/Dates, etc. || ''one'', ''half'', ''first'' |} : Furthermore, as for part of speech, determiners can be adjectives, pronouns, or adverbs. As adjectives, determiners can itemize or classify. As pronouns, they can refer to one or more persons (male or female) or things. As adverbs, they can specify circumstance, i.e. time, place, degree, kind, age, frequency, and so forth. == Deictic Determiners == : '''''Deictic determiners''''' are words which point out or ''specify'' other words as to their context, including what grammarians often call '''''demonstratives'''''. All deictic determiners in Mirad begin with the letter '''h'''. The letters following the '''h''' indicate the grammatical and semantic category. : Deictic determiners include the following traditional grammatical categories: <div style="background: lightyellow"> ::* '''''Demonstrative adjectives ''''' like ''this'', ''that'', ''those'', ''that one'' ::* '''''The definite article''''' ''the ''&nbsp;&nbsp; (which is really a '''''demonstrative adjective''''' like those above.) ::* '''''Demonstrative pronouns''''' like ''this'', ''that'', ''those'', ''that one'' ::* '''''Interrogative and relative pronouns''''' like ''who, which, that'' ::* '''''Indefinite adjectives''''' like ''any'', ''some'', ''all'', ''something'', ''such'', etc. ::* '''''Indefinite pronouns''''' like ''any'', ''some'', ''all'', ''something'', ''such'', etc. ::* '''''Pronouns, adjectives, and adverbs of quantity''''' like ''so much'', ''that many'', ''how many?'', ''very'', etc. ::* '''''Adverbs of circumstance:''''' :::* '''''time''''' like ''when'', ''now'', ''ever'' :::* '''''place''''' like ''there'', ''here'', ''somewhere'' :::* '''''manner''''' like ''how'', ''thus'', ''somehow'' :::* '''''kind''''' like ''so'', age ''this year old'' :::* '''''direction''''' like ''that way'', ''any which way'' :::* '''''reason''''' ''why?'', ''for that reason'', ''for no reason'' :::* '''''degree''''' ''this (well)'', ''so (good)'', ''how (bad)'' :::* '''''frequency''''' like ''how often'', ''so often'', ''never'' :::* '''''age''''' like ''this old'', ''how old?'', ''of any age'' </div> === Deictic Prefixes === [[File:Deixis (DE).png|thumb|none]] : There is a whole set of '''''correlative deictic prefixes''''', which are joined to circumstantial stub category suffixes to derive pronoun, adjective, and adverb determiners. In some grammars, these words are called ''wh-question words and their pointed answers''. For example, QUESTION: <u>Who</u> is your wife? ANSWER: <u>This</u> is my wife. (or) QUESTION: <u>Where</u> is your house? ANSWER: My house is <u>here</u>. These word forms are called correlative because they relate to one another in way that can be mapped to a table. : Here are the Mirad deictic classification prefixes: :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Deictic Prefixes |- ! Classification !! Deictic Prefix |- ! scope="row" | Interrogative | '''duho-...?'''....''what?, which?'' |- ! scope="row" | Relative | '''ho-'''....''which, that'' |- ! scope="row" | Exclamatory | '''hoo-'''....''how...!'' |- ! scope="row" | Definite | '''ha-'''....''the'' |- ! scope="row: | Indefinite | '''he-'''....''some, a certain'' |- ! scope="row" | Proximal | '''hi-'''....''this, these'' |- ! scope="row" | Immediate | '''hii-'''....''the following'' |- ! scope="row" | Distal | '''hu-'''....''that, those'' |- ! scope="row" | Intensive | '''huu-'''....''such, so, what a...!'' |- ! scope="row" | Distributive | '''hya-'''....''every, all, each'' |- ! scope="row" | Indeterminate | '''hye-'''....''any, whatever'' |- ! scope="row" | Negative | '''hyo-'''....''no, not any'' |- ! scope="row | Identical | '''hyi-'''....''the same, the very'' |- ! scope="row" | Non-identical | '''hyu-'''....''the other, another, else'' |} : Note: The Identical ('''hyi-''') and Non-identical prefixes ('''hyu-''') can optionally be substituted with '''ge-''' (''same'') and '''oge-''' (different), respectively. === Circumstantial Category Suffixes === : The table below shows word stub suffixes that indicate the circumstantial category of deictic expressions. They are called stubs, because they are reduced word forms. The combination of deictic prefixes and circumstantial stub suffixes produce a matrix of deictic '''''correlatives''''', seen later in this chapter. Use of the stub instead of the long form is a matter of optional economy. A few categories do not have stubs. :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Category Stubs |- ! Category !! Stub Suffix !! Long Form !! Short Question Form || Long Question Form |- ! row=1| Person | '''-t''' || '''<u>t</u>ob'''....''person'' || '''duhot?'''....''who?''|| '''duhotob?''' |- ! row=1| Thing | '''-s''' ||'''<u>s</u>un'''....''thing'' || '''duhos?'''....''what?''|| '''duhosun?''' |- ! row=1| Place | '''-m''' ||'''ne<u>m</u>'''....''place'' || '''duhom?'''....''where?''|| '''duhonem?''' |- ! row=1| Time | '''-j''' ||'''<u>j</u>ob'''....''time'' || '''duhoj?'''....''when?''|| '''duhojob?''' |- ! row=1| Manner | '''-yen''' ||'''b<u>yen</u>'''....''manner'' || '''duhoyen?'''....''how?''||'''duhobyen?''' |- ! row=1| Kind | '''-yena''' ||'''sauna</u>'''....''kind of'' || '''duhoyena?'''....''what kind of?''||'''duhosauna?''' |- ! row=1| Degree | '''-gla''' ||'''nog'''....''degree'' || '''duhogla (fi)?'''....''how (well)?''||'''duhonog?''' |- ! row=1| Number | '''-gla''' ||'''sag'''....''number'' || '''duhogla (pati)?'''....''how many (birds)?''||'''duhosag?''' |- ! row=1| Mass Quantity | '''-gla''' ||'''glan'''....''amount'' || '''duhogla (mil)?'''....''how much (water)?''||'''duhoglan?''' |- ! row=1| Frequency | ||'''xag'''....''frequency''|| '''duhoxag?'''....''how often?''|| -- |- ! row=1| Reason | '''-avhos''' || '''av hosun'''....''reason'' || '''duavhos?'''....''why?''|| '''duavhosun?''' |- ! row=1| Age | ||'''jaga'''....''of age'' || '''duhojaga?'''....''how old?''|| -- |} : There can be other circumstantial categories other than those listed above, such as "direction", "order", etc. eg. '''Duhomep wit pa?'''....''Which way did he go?''. === Charts of Correlative Deictic Determiners === : Here is are three tables showing the matrix of correlative deictic determiners. Note that the determiners belong to three parts of speech, 1) adjectives, 2) pronouns, and 3) adverbs: :{| class="wikitable" font-size:smaller style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |- ! Part of Speech !! Ending |- | Adjective || '''-a''' |- | Pronoun || '''-t(i)''', '''-s(i)''' |- | Adverb || (no ending) |} ==== Deictic Determiner Adjectives ==== : All deictic determiner adjectives end in '''-a''' and are used to modify nouns. :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Adjectives |- valign=top ! !! Selective<br>-a!! Possessive<br>-ta !! Kind/Manner<br>-yena !! Quantity<br>-gla !! Age<br>-jaga |- ! Interrogative |'''duhoa?'''<br>''which?''||'''duhota?'''<br>''whose?''|| '''duhoyena?'''<br>''what kind of?''||'''duhogla?'''<br>''how much/many?'' ||'''duhojaga?'''<br>''how old?'' |- valign=top ! Relative |'''hoa'''<br>''which''||'''hota'''<br>''whose''|| '''hoyena'''<br>''what kind of''||'''hogla'''<br>''how much/many'' ||'''hojaga'''<br>''how old'' |- valign=top ! Exclamatory |'''hooa'''<br>''what a...!''|| || ||'''hoogla'''<br>''look how much/many...!'' ||'''hoojaga'''<br>''how old a...!'' |- valign=top ! Definite |'''ha'''<sup>1</sup><br>''the''||'''hatas'''<br>''the person’s''|| '''hayena'''<br>''of the kind''||'''hagla'''<br>''of the amount'' ||'''hajaga'''<br>''of the age'' |- valign=top ! Indefinite |'''hea'''<br>''some/a certain''||'''heta'''<br>''someone's''|| '''heyena'''<br>''some kind of''||'''hegla'''<br>''some'' ||'''hejaga'''<br>''somewhat old'' |- valign=top ! Proximal |'''hia'''<br>''this''||'''hita'''<br>''this person’s''|| '''hiyena'''<br>''this kind of''||'''higla'''<br>''this much'' ||'''hijaga'''<br>''this old'' |- valign=top ! Immdediate |'''hiia'''<br>''the following''||'''hiita'''<br>''the follow person’s''|| '''hiiyena'''<br>''the following kind of'' || '''hiigla'''<br>''to the following degree'' ||'''hiijaga'''<br>''of the following age'' |- valign=top ! Distal |'''hua'''<br>''that''||'''huta'''<br>''that person’s''|| '''huyena'''<br>''that kind of'' ||'''hugla'''<br>''that much/many'' ||'''hujaga'''<br>''of that age'' |- valign=top ! Intensive |'''huua'''<br>''such a''||'''huuta'''<br>''such a person’s''|| '''huuyena'''<br>''such kind of'' ||'''huugla'''<br>''so much/many'' ||'''huujaga'''<br>''of such an age'' |- valign=top ! Negative |'''hyoa'''<br>''no''||'''hyota'''<br>''nobody’s''|| '''hyoyena'''<br>''no kind of'' ||'''hyogla'''<br>''no amount/number of'' ||'''hyojaga'''<br>''of no age'' |- valign=top ! Distributive |'''hya'''<sup>1</sup><br>''every, all''||'''hyata'''<br>''everybody’s''|| '''hyayena'''<br>''every kind of'' ||'''hyagla'''<br>''all'' ||'''hyajaga'''<br>''of every age'' |- valign=top ! Indeterminate |'''hyea'''<br>''whichever/any''<sup>2</sup>||'''hyeta'''<br>''whosever''|| '''hyeyena'''<br>''whatever/any kind of'' ||'''hyegla'''<br>''however much/many'' ||'''hyejaga'''<br>''however old'' |- valign=top ! Identical |'''hyia'''<br>''the same''||'''hyita'''<br>''the same person’s''|| '''hyiyena'''<br>''the same kind of'' ||'''hyigla'''<br>''just as'' ||'''hyijaga'''<br>''just as old'' |- valign=top ! Non-identical |'''hyua'''<br>''the other''||'''hyuta'''<br>''someone else's''|| '''hyuyena'''<br>''another kind of'' ||'''hyugla'''<br>''not as much/many'' ||'''hyujaga'''<br>''of another age'' |} : There are other adjectival determiners such as '''duhonoga'''....''how/to what degree'', '''duhosauna'''....''what kind of'' that are not included in the above chart. :Note 1) The determiners '''ha''' (''the'') and '''hya''' (''every'') are shortened forms of '''haa''' and '''hyaa'''. Also, '''ha''' is commonly called a "definite article". ::* While '''hya''' means ''every'' or ''all'', the word '''hyawa''' is used for ''each''. ::* The possessive adjective forms in the above table ending in '''-ta''' such as '''hyeta'''....''whosever'' cannot be pluralized by the ending '''-tia'''. To say '''other people's''', use the expression '''bi hyuti''' (Lit. ''of others''). ::* The '''ho-''' words are relative, meaning that they can serve to form relative clauses like the following: :::* '''Ha toyb, <u>hota</u> twad se Bill,'''....''The woman, <u>whose</u> husband is Bill,'' :::* '''At voy te <u>hos</u> et tepfe.'''....''I don't know <u>what</u> you mean.'' :::* '''At teste <u>hogla</u> et fie iyt.'''....''I understand <u>how much</u> you love her.'' ::* The '''hoo-''' words are exclamatory and are used in expressions like the following: :::* '''<u>Hoogla</u> iva se at van et upa!'''....''<u>How</u> glad I am that you came!'' :::* '''<u>Hooa</u> jub his saye!'''....''<u>What a</u> day this has been!'' ('''Hooa''' is pronounced ''ho-O-a'' as three syllables.) :Note 2) The indeterminant determiners can also be translated with ''no matter what, no matter where, etc.'' ==== Deictic Determiner Pronouns ==== : All deictic determiner pronouns end either in '''-t''' for persons or '''-s''' for things. They can be singular or plural ('''-i'''). :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Pronouns |- valign=top ! !! Thing -s<br>Things -si !! Person -t<br>Persons -ti !! Kind of Thing -yenas<br>Kinds of Things -yenasi !! Amount -glas<br>Number of Things -glasi !! Number of People -glati |- valign=center ! Interrogative |'''duhos?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what?''<br>'''duhosi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what (things)?''|| '''duhot?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who?''<br>'''duhoti?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who (pl.)''|| '''duhoyenas?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what kind of thing?'' <br>'''duhoyenasi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;what kinds of things?|| '''duhoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how much?''<br>'''duhoglasi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many things?''|| '''duhoglati?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many people?'' |- valign=center ! Relative |'''hos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what''<br>'''hosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what''|| '''hot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who''<br>'''hoti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who''|| '''hoyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what kind of thing'' <br>'''hoyenasi'''|| '''hoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how much''<br>'''hoglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many''|| '''hoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many'' |- ! Exclamatory |'''hoos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a thing!''<br>'''hoosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what things!''|| '''hoot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a person!''<br>'''hooti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what people!''|| || '''hooglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what an amount!''<br>'''hooglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a number!''|| '''hoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a number of people!'' |- valign=center ! Definite |'''has'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''it''<br>'''hasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''they/them''|| '''hat'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''he/she/him/her''<br>'''hati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''they/them''|| '''hayenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the king of thing''<br>'''hayenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the kind of things''|| '''haglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the amount'' <br>'''haglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the number of things''|| '''haglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the number of people'' |- valign=center ! Indefinite |'''hes'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''something''<br>'''hesi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some things''|| '''het'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''someone''<br>'''heti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some''|| '''heyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some kind of thing'' <br>'''heyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some kinds of thing''|| '''heglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some''<br>'''heglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some things''|| '''heglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some people'' |- valign=center ! Proximal |'''his'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this''<br>'''hisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these''|| '''hit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this person''<br>'''hiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these people''|| '''hiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this kind of thing'' <br>'''hiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these kinds of things''|| '''higlas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this much''<br>'''higlasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this many''|| '''higlati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this many people'' |- valign=center ! Immediate |'''hiis'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following thing''<br>'''hiisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following things''|| '''hiit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following person''<br>'''hiiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following people''|| '''hiiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following kind of thing'' <br>'''hiiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following kinds of things''|| '''hiiglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following amount''<br>'''hiiglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this following number of things''|| '''hiiglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following number of people'' |- valign=center ! Distal |'''hus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that''<br>'''husi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those''|| '''hut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that person''<br>'''huti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those people''|| '''huyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that kind of thing'' <br>'''huyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those kinds of things''|| '''huglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that much''<br>'''huglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that many''|| '''huglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that many people'' |- valign=center ! Intensive |'''huus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a thing''<br>'''huusi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such things''|| '''huut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a person''<br>'''huuti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such people''|| '''huuyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a kind of thing'' <br>'''huuyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such kinds of things''|| '''huuglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so much''<br>'''huuglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so many''|| '''huuglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so many people'' |- valign=center ! Negative |'''hyos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''nothing''<br>'''hyosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none of them''|| '''hyot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''nobody''<br>'''hyoti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none of them''|| '''hyoyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''no kind of thing'' <br>'''hyoyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''no kinds of things''|| '''hyoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none''<br>'''hyoglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none''|| '''hyoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none'' |- valign=center ! Distributive |'''hyas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''everything''<br>'''hyasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyat'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''everybody''<br>'''hyati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyayenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''every kind of'' <br>'''hyayenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all kinds of things''|| '''hyaglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of it''<br>'''hyaglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyaglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them'' |- valign=center ! Indeterminate |'''hyes'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''anything''<br>'''hyesi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any''|| '''hyet'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''anybody''<br>'''hyeti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of them''|| '''hyeyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any kind of'' <br>'''hyeyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''whatever things''|| '''hyeglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of it''<br>'''hyeglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of them''|| '''hyeglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''whoever'' |- valign=center ! Identical |'''hyis'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same thing''<br>'''hyisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same things''|| '''hyit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same person''<br>'''hyiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same people''|| '''hyiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same kind of'' <br>'''hyiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same kinds of things''|| '''hyiglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as much''<br>'''hyiglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as many''|| '''hyiglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as many people'' |- valign=center ! Non-identical |'''hyus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''something else''<br>'''hyusi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other things''|| '''hyut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''someone else''<br>'''hyuti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other people''|| '''hyuyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another kind'' <br>'''hyuyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other kinds''|| '''hyuglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another amount''<br>'''hyuglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another number of things''|| '''hyuglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another number of people'' |} : Concerning the above chart, note the following: ::* The interrogative determiners all begin with '''duho-''', which means '''say which''', and are technically imperatives. '''Duhom?''', for example, means '''Tell (me) the place...'''. The '''o'''-stem forms without the '''du-''' are used as relative clause heads, eg. '''At po <u>hom</u> et po.'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''I will go <u>where</u> you go.'' ::* Interrogatives usually come at the beginning of a sentence as in English, eg. '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* Determiners come first before any other epithets of a noun, eg. '''<u>Hia</u> aga jaga tam...'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''<u>This</u> big old house...''. ::* Person and Thing determiners can be made selective by inserting '''a''' before the final '''t''' or '''s''', eg. '''Duhot?''' means ''Who?'', while '''Duhoat?''' means ''Which one (of several persons)?'' ==== Deictic Determiner Adverbs ==== : All deictic determiner adverbs refer to a circumstance. :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Adverbs |- valign=top ! Circumstance--> !! Place<br>-m !! Time<br>-j !! Manner<br>-yen!! Degree<br>-gla !! Frequency<br>-xag !! Reason<br>-sav |- valign=center ! Interrogative | '''duhom?'''<br>''where?'' || '''duhoj?'''<br>''when?'' || '''duhoyen?'''<br>''how?'' || '''duhogla?'''<br>''how (very)?'' || '''duhoxag?'''<br>''how often?''|| '''duavhos?'''<sup>1</sup><br>''why?'' |- valign=center ! Relative | '''hom'''<br>''where'' || '''hoj'''<br>''when'' || '''hoyen'''<br>''how'' || '''hogla'''<br>''how (very)'' || '''hoxag'''<br>''how often'' || '''avhos (van)<sup>2</sup>'''<br>''because'' |- valign=center ! Exclamatory | || || '''hooyen'''<br>''and how!, such a...'' || '''hoogla'''<br>''how very...!, so...''<sup>3</sup> || || |- valign=center ! Definite | '''ham'''<br>''the place'' || '''haj'''<br>''the time'' || '''hayen'''<br>''the manner'' || '''hagla'''<br>''just as'' || '''haxag'''<br>''as frequently''|| '''avhas'''<br>''the reason'' |- valign=center ! Indefinite | '''hem'''<br>''somewhere'' || '''hej'''<br>''sometime'' || '''heyen'''<br>''somehow'' || '''hegla'''<br>''somewhat'' || '''hexag'''<br>''somewhat often''||'''avhes'''<br>''for some reason'' |- valign=center ! Proximal | '''him'''<br>''here'' || '''hij'''<br>''now'' || '''hiyen'''<br>''this way'' || '''higla'''<br>''this'' || '''hixag'''<br>''this often''||'''avhis'''<br>''for this reason'' |- valign=center ! Immediate | '''hiim'''<br>''the following place'' || '''hiij'''<br>''the following time'' || '''hiiyen'''<br>''the following way'' || '''hiigla'''<br>''to the following degree'' || '''hiixag'''<br>''at the following frequency''||'''avhiis'''<br>''for the following reason'' |- valign=center ! Distal | '''hum'''<br>''there'' || '''huj'''<br>''then'' || '''huyen'''<br>''that way'' || '''hugla'''<br>''to that degree'' || '''huxag'''<br>''that often''|| '''avhus'''<br>''therefore'' |- valign=center ! Intensive | '''huum'''<br>''such a place'' || '''huuj'''<br>''at such a time'' || '''huuyen'''<br>''in such a way'' || '''huugla'''<br>''so (very)'' || '''huuxag'''<br>''so often''|| '''avhuus'''<br>''for such a reason'' |- valign=center ! Negative | '''hyom'''<br>''nowhere'' || '''hyoj'''<br>''never'' || '''hyoyen'''<br>''in no way'' || '''hyogla'''<br>''not at all'' || '''hyoxag'''<br>''not once''|| '''avhyos'''<br>''for no reason'' |- valign=center ! Distributive | '''hyam'''<br>''everywhere'' || '''hyaj'''<br>''always'' || '''hyayen'''<br>''in every way'' || '''hyagla'''<br>''fully'' || '''hyaxag'''<br>''always''||'''avhyas'''<br>''for every reason'' |- valign=center ! Indeterminate | '''hyem'''<br>''anywhere'' || '''hyej'''<br>''whenever'' || '''hyeyen'''<br>''however'' || '''hyegla'''<br>''however'' || '''hyexag'''<br>''however often'' || '''avhyes'''<br>''for whatever reason'' |- valign=center ! Indentical | '''hyim'''<br>''at the same place'' || '''hyij'''<br>''at the same time'' || '''hyiyen'''<br>''in the same way'' || '''hyigla'''<br>''as'' || '''hyixag'''<br>''as often''|| '''avhyis'''<br>''for the same reason'' |- valign=center ! Non-identical | '''hyum'''<br>''somewhere else'' || '''hyuj'''<br>''some other time'' || '''hyuyen'''<br>''otherwise'' || '''hyugla'''<br>''not as'' || '''hyuxag'''<br>''not as often''||'''avhyus'''<br>''for some other reason'' |} :Note 1) '''Duavhos?''' translates literally to "Say for what?". :Note 2) The positive complimentizer '''van''' is optional. :Note 3) A clause following '''hoogla''' <ADJ>/<ADV> must be followed by '''van''', eg. '''Et eka <u>hoogla fi van</u> ha teexuti byasa ab yiti tyoyabi.'''....''You played <u>so well that</u> the audience stood on their feet.'' : Concerning the above chart, note the following: :* The interrogative determiners all begin with '''duho-''', which means '''say which''', and are technically imperatives. '''Duhom?''', for example, means '''Tell (me) the place...'''. The '''o'''-stem forms without the '''du-''' are used as relative clause heads, eg. '''At po <u>hom</u> et po.'''....''I will go <u>where</u> you go.'' :* Interrogatives usually come at the beginning of a sentence as in English, eg. '''<u>Duhom</u> se eta tam?'''....''<u>Where</u> is your house?'' :* Not included in the above chart is a related interrogative, which is a complementizer. ::* '''Duven...?'''.... (Question introducer) '''Is it true that...?, Say whether...''' :::* '''<u>Duven</u> et se tadxwa?'''....''Are you married? (= <u>Say whether</u> you are married.)'' :* The adverbs of degree in the above chart ('''duhogla?''', etc.) are interchangeable with adverbs ending in '''-nog'''....''degree'' ('''duhonog?'''....''to what degree?, how...?'', '''henog'''....''somewhat'') :* Other deictic determiner adverbs of circumstance exist and are not on the above chart: ::* '''duhomep?'''....''which way?'' :::* '''humep'''....''that way'' ::* '''duhobyun?'''....''to what end?'' :::* '''hyobyun'''....''for no purpose'' ::* '''duhoizon?'''....''in which direction?'' :::* ''''hyaizon'''....''in every direction'' ==== Examples of Deictic Determiner Usage ==== ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ('''Duhos''' is pronounced '''du-HOS''') ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> se iyta twad?'''....''<u>Who</u> is her husband?'' ::* '''<u>Duhowat</u> se iyta twad?'''....''<u>Which one of the guys</u> is her husband?'' (selective) ::* '''<u>Duhoti</u> fe eker?'''....''<u>Who (pl.)</u> want to play?'' ::* '''<u>Hyas</u> se fia.'''....''<u>Everything</u> is fine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyat</u> tre et.'''....''<u>Everyone</u> knows you.'' ::* '''<u>Hyot</u> tre at.'''....''<u>Nobody</u> knows me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyati</u> ekeye fi.'''....''<u>All of them</u> are playing well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoti</u> ekeye fi.'''....''<u>None of them</u> are playing well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> yafe eker.'''....''<u>Anyone</u> can play.'' ::* '''<u>Hyes</u> yafwe.'''....''<u>Anything</u> is possible.'' ::* '''At fe <u>hyuyenat</u> be ata ekutyan.'''....''I want <u>someone else</u> on my team.'' ::* '''<u>Huuyenati</u> fyuxe yata oj.'''....''<u>Such people</u> harm our future.'' ::* '''Et yefe tepier <u>hiisi</u>.'''....''You must bear in mind <u>the following things</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et xa hus.'''.....''<u>How</u> did you do that?'' (pronounced '''du-ho-YEN''') ::* '''<u>Duavhos</u> iyt pia <u>huugla</u> jwa?'''....''<u>Why</u> did she leave <u>so</u> early?'' ::* '''<u>Hwita</u> tam se ga aga.'''....''<u>This guy's</u> house is bigger.'' ::* '''At voy ayse ha dyuni <u>bi huyti</u>.'''....''I don't have <u>those women's</u> names.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoa</u> tam se etas?'''....''<u>Which</u> house is yours?'' ::* '''<u>Huua</u> tej et ayse!'''....''<u>What a</u> life you have!'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyena</u> dyezuni ifxe et?'''....''<u>What kind of</u> movies do you like?'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> tef okwa?'''....''<u>Whose</u> hat was lost?'' ::* '''<u>Hota</u> tef okwa bese otwas.'''....''<u>Whose</u> hat was lost remains a mystery.'' ::* '''<u>Ha</u> tob ta yata dyuni.'''....''<u>The</u> man knew our names.'' ::* '''<u>Hoyena</u> dini at ife, et ufe.'''....''<u>The kind of</u> stories I love, you hate.'' ::* '''<u>Hea</u> mepi gawdyunxwo.'''....''<u>Certain</u> streets will be renamed.'' ::* '''<u>Heyena</u> fukyes uxaye purilp nyaunx.'''....''<u>Some kind of</u> accident has caused a traffic jam.'' ::* '''<u>Heta</u> abtaf kaxwa be ha zatem.'''.....''<u>Someone's</u> coat was found in the foyer.'' ::* '''<u>Hia</u> dyes se ata gwafwas.'''....''<u>This</u> book is my favorite.'' ::* '''<u>Hiia</u> duni se ofwa.'''....''<u>The following</u> words are prohibited.'' ::* '''<u>Hiiyena</u> axlyen voy afwu.'''....''<u>The following sort of</u> behavior would not be allowed.'' ::* '''<u>Hiyena</u> axlyen voy vayafwo.'''....''<u>This type of</u> behavior will not be tolerated.'' ::* '''<u>Hita</u> tim so yolza.'''....''<u>This person's</u> room will be blue.'' ::* '''<u>Hua</u> mas efwe gawvozilbwer.'''....''<u>That</u> wall needs to be repainted.'' ::* '''<u>Huua</u> dini yufxe tudi.'''....''<u>Such</u> stories scare children.'' ::* '''<u>Huyena</u> duni voy yeyfwe yixwer za at.'''....''<u>Such</u> words should not be used in front of me.'' ::* '''<u>Hwuta</u> tam magseye.'''....''<u>That guy's</u> house is on fire.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoa</u> din se ga kyitesa.'''....''<u>No</u> story is more important.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoyena</u> tes tesiyafwe.'''....''<u>No such</u> meaning can be inferred.'' ::* '''<u>Hyota</u> jatexdras sa ga fia.'''....''<u>Nobody's</u> plan is better.'' ::* '''<u>Hyos</u> oboxe huyt.'''....''<u>Nothing</u> bothers that gal.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> mepi izpe Roma.'''....''<u>All</u> roads lead to Rome.'' ::* '''<u>Hya ha</u> mepi se ebwa.'''....''<u>All the</u> roads are blocked.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> twob yefe xer ita gon.'''....''<u>Every</u> man must do his part.'' ::* '''<u>Hyayena</u> telami ese be hia domep.'''....''<u>All manner of</u> restaurants exist on this street.'' ::* '''<u>Hyata</u> tej se uka bi yaobi.'''....''<u>Everyone's</u> life is full of ups and downs.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaewa</u> domi agsaye.'''....''<u>Both</u> cities have grown.'' ::* '''<u>Hyea</u> voz so fia.'''....''<u>Any</u> color will be fine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeyena</u> til se aysyafwa.'''....''<u>Any kind of</u> drink is available.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeta</u> ved se ge ifa vyel atas.'''....''<u>Anyone's</u> guess is as good as mine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyea</u> tim et fe et yafe ayser.'''....''<u>Whatever</u> room you want, you can have.'' ::* '''<u>Hyia</u>/(Ha gea) fukyesi kyese glaxag.'''....''<u>The same</u> accidents occur frequently.'' ::* '''<u>Hyiyena</u>/(Ha geyena) dyezuni teaxuwa zajub.'''....''<u>The same kind of</u> films were shown yesterday.'' ::* '''<u>Hyita</u>/(Ha geta) dyun yixwa gajod.'''....''<u>The same person's</u> name was used again.'' ::* '''<u>Hyua</u> dyezun sa ga ifuyea.'''....''<u>The other</u> movie was more entertaining.'' ::* '''<u>Hyuyena</u>/(Ogeyena) som teasu ga fia.'''....''<u>Another kind of</u> furniture would look better.'' ::* '''<u>Hyuta</u>/(ogeta) texyen se ge fyia.'''....''<u>Someone else's</u> opinion is equally valid.'' ::* '''Ha dyuni <u>bi hiyti</u> voy dodrawe.'''....''<u>These women's</u> names have not been made public.'' ::* '''Ha dyuni <u>bi hwiiti</u> voy dodrowe.'''....''<u>The following males'</u> names will not be publicized.'' ::* '''<u>Hijaga</u> tobweti voy afwo him.'''....''Boys <u>of this age</u> will not be allowed here.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> et tambese?'''....''<u>Where</u> do you live?'' ::* '''At tambese <u>hum</u>.'''....''I live <u>there</u>.'' ::* '''Et tambese <u>hom</u> ha mep uje.'''....''You live <u>where</u> the road ends.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> yet peye?'''....''<u>Where</u> are you people going?'' ::* '''Et yafe per <u>hyem</u> et fu.'''....''You can go <u>anywhere</u> you would like.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> et byise?'''....''<u>Where</u> are you from?'' (Lit: ''Where do you originate?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoj</u> et taja?'''....''<u>When</u> were you born?'' ::* '''At voy tajaya <u>huj</u>.'''....''I had not been born <u>then</u>.'' ::* '''Et yeyfe duder <u>hiiyen</u>.'''....''You should respond <u>in the following way</u>.'' ::* '''Ot voy yefe daler <u>huuyen</u>.'''....''One must not talk <u>in such a manner</u>.'' ::* '''Et pia <u>hesav</u>.'''....''He left <u>for some reason</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et iyfe hia vifil?'''....''<u>How</u> do like this wine?'' ::* '''Voy se fia axler <u>hiyen</u>.'''....''It is not good to act <u>this way</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duavhos</u> et tadia <u>huugla</u> jwa?'''....''<u>Why</u> did you marry <u>so</u> late?'' ::* '''Ha twob pia <u>avhyos</u>.'''....''The man left <u>for no reason</u>.'' ::* '''Hwat pia <u>avhos van</u> it efa per hem.'''....''The guy left <u>because</u> he needed to go somewhere.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeta</u> texyen so fia.'''....''<u>Anyone</u>'s opinion will be fine.'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> dyes se his?'''....''Whose book is this?'' ::* '''<u>Bi hoti</u> se hia dyesi?'''....''Whose are these books?'' ::* '''<u>Hyata</u> tili yebexe yom.'''....''<u>Everyone's</u> drinks contain ice.'' ::* '''Et se gaj <u>geyenat</u>( ~ <u>hyiyenat</u>).'''....''You are still <u>the same kind of person</u>.'' ::* '''At se <u>hoogla iva van</u> et upa!'''....''I am <u>so happy that</u> you came!'' ::* '''Yat tose <u>hyigla (van)</u> yet.'''....''We feel <u>(the same way) as</u> you (do).'' : Note, '''hyigla''' can be replaced with '''gel''': ::* '''Yet tose <u>gel</u> yet.'''....''We feel <u>as</u> you do.'' : The semantic reverser '''o-''' can be prefixed to some of the above deictic determiners: :: '''<u>Ohyat</u> tiste Platon.'''....''<u>Not everyone</u> understands Plato.'' :: '''<u>Ohut!</u>'''....''Not that person!'' :: '''At iyfe gwa apovili, oy <u>ohuas</u>!'''....''I like most beers, but <u>not that one</u>!'' : If the definite article or any other deictic determiner is omitted before a noun, then it has the effect of the English indefinite article ''a / an'' with a singular noun or ''some'' with a plural noun. For example: ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ha tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>a glass</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ha tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>(some) glasses</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>awa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>one glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha awa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the one glass</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>two glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the two glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>hyaewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>both glasses</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>owa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>no/zero glasses (=not a single glass)</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ea tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>another/a second glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ea tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the second glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ea tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>second glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ea tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the second glasses</u> of wine.'' : If an indefinite article sense is needed for clarity, the words '''awa''' (''one'') or '''hea''' (''some, a certain'') can be used, eg.: ::* '''At igteata <u>awa</u> tob yiztyoper.'''....''I glimpsed <u>a</u> man walk by.'' ::* '''Wit zoyupo <u>hea</u> jub.'''....''He will come back <u>a / a certain / some</u> day.'' ==== Selective vs. Non-Selective Forms ==== : The deictic interrogative determiner pronoun '''duhot?''' means ''who(m)'' and contrasts with its '''''selective''''' counterpart '''duhoat?''', which means ''which one?''. All the selective determiners refer to one or more things or persons from a selectable pool of things or persons. : The following sentences illustrate the use of the above determiner pronouns: ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> aka zajuba ek?'''....''<u>Who</u> won yesterday's game?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoat</u> bi ha akuti sa ha gwa fiat?'''....''<u>Which one</u> of the winners was the best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> tam se hus?'''....''<u>Whose</u> house is that?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotas</u> se hus?'''....''<u>Whose</u> is that?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotia</u> deuzi et gaife?'''....''<u>Whose</u> songs do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotias</u> et gaife?'''....''<u>Whose</u> do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* '''<u>Duhosi</u> se eta gaifuni?'''....''<u>What</u> are your preferences?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoa</u> deuzi se eta gwa fiasi?'''....''<u>Which</u> songs are your best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoasi</u> se eta gwa fiasi?'''....''<u>Which ones</u> are your best?'' ::* '''Bi hia deuzuti, <u>hoat</u> et gaife?'''....''Of these vocalists, <u>which one</u> do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Hiiti</u> yaneko hijub.'''....''<u>The following people</u> will compete today.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoati</u> se gwa fia?'''....''<u>Which ones</u> are best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoti</u> et teexe gwa jodi?'''....''<u>Who (all)</u> do you listen to the most often?'' ::* '''<u>Hoat</u> at teexe gwaxag draye ejna deuz.'''....''<u>The one</u> I listen to the most has written a new song.'' ::* '''Ejna deuz? At voy teste <u>hoas</u> et tede.'''....''New song? I don't understand <u>which one</u> you mean.'' ::* '''<u>Hias</u>.'''....''<u>This one</u>.'' ::* '''Vo. <u>Huasi</u> se ga fia.'''....''No. <u>Those</u> are better.'' ::* '''<u>His</u> se jub av ivxelen.'''....''<u>This</u> is a day for celebration.'' ::* '''Va. <u>Hia</u> jub. At tese <u>hi</u>jub.'''....''Yes. <u>This</u> day. I mean <u>To-</u>day.'' ::* '''<u>Husi</u> sa <u>ha</u> jubi, ata dat!'''....''<u>Those</u> were <u>the</u> days, my friend!'' ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> aka ha igpek?'''....''<u>Who</u> won the race?'' ::* '''<u>Hyas</u> uja fi.'''....''<u>Everything</u> ended well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyasi</u> uje.'''....''<u>All things</u> come to an end.'' ::* '''<u>Hyayenasi</u> vey kyesu.'''....''<u>All sorts of things</u> might happen.'' ::* '''<u>Hyos</u> yokxa at.'''....''<u>Nothing</u> surprised me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyot</u> ta hot ako.'''....''<u>Nobody</u> knew who would win.'' ::* '''<u>Hoayti</u> fu pier yefe.'''....''<u>Those females</u> who would like to leave may.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> yefe eker hia ifek.'''....''<u>Anyone</u> can play this game.'' ::* '''<u>Huyenasi</u> voy afwo.'''....''<u>Such things</u> will not be permitted.'' ::* '''<u>Hua twob</u> voy taxe hia toyb.'''....''<u>That</u> man does not remember this woman.'' ::* '''<u>Hwuti</u> yanyexe fi.'''....''<u>Those guys</u> work well together.'' ::* '''<u>Huuyti</u> hyaj yubixe tepzex.'''....''<u>Such females</u> always attract attention.'' ::* '''At jay teataye <u>hiyenasi</u>.'''....''I've seen <u>such things</u> before.'' ::* '''<u>Huyenwat</u> voy vabiwu.'''....''<u>A guy like that</u> would not be accepted.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyenasi</u> weti iyfe xer je ha maj.'''....''<u>What kinds of things</u> do you guys like to do during the day?'' === Numerical Deictic Determiners === : Sometimes, a deictic determiner specifies numerical information. This chart shows those forms: :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Number-incorporating Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! Adjective !! Inanimate Pronoun !! Animate Pronoun !! Pronominal Determiner !! Possessive Pronoun |- | '''hawa'''<sup>1</sup><br> ''the only'' || '''hawas'''<br>''the only thing''<br>'''hawasi'''<br>''the only things'' || '''hawat'''<br>''the only one (person)''<br>'''hawati'''<br>''the only ones''|| '''hawata'''<br>''the only person&apos;s'' || '''hawatas'''<br>''the only one&apos;s''<br>'''hawatasi'''<br>''the only one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyawa'''*<br> ''each'' || '''hyawas'''<br>''each one'' || '''hyawat'''<br>''each person''|| '''hyawata'''<br>''each person&apos;s'' || '''hyawatas'''<br>''each one&apos;s''<br>'''hyawatasi'''<br>''each one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyaewa'''<br>''both'' || '''hyaewasi'''<br>''both (<small>things</small>)'' || '''hyaewati'''<br>''both (<small>people</small>)''|| '''bi hyaewati'''<br>''both person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyaewati'''<br>''both person&apos;s''<br>'''hasi bi hyaewati'''<br>''both persone&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyaiwa'''<br>''all three'' || '''hyaiwasi'''<br>''all three (<small>things</small>)'' || '''hyaiwati'''<br>''all three (<small>people</small>)''|| '''hyaiwata'''<br>''all three person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyaiwati'''<br>''all three person&apos;s''<br>'''hasi bi hyaiwati'''<br>''all three person&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''ohyawa'''<br>''not every'' || '''ohyawas'''<br>''not everything'' || '''ohyawat'''<br>''not everyone''|| '''ohyawata'''<br>''not every person&apos;s'' || '''ohyawatas'''<br>''not everyone&apos;s''<br>'''ohyawatasi'''<br>''not everyone&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyoawa'''<br>''not a single'' || '''hyoawas'''<br>''not a single thing'' || '''hyoawat'''<br>''not a single person''|| '''hyowata'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s'' || '''hyowatas'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s''<br>'''hyowatasi'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyeawa'''<br>''either'' || '''hyeawas'''<br>''either one'' || '''hyeawat'''<br>''either one (<small>person</small>)''|| '''hyeawata'''<br>''either one&apos;s'' || '''hyeawatas'''<br>''either one&apos;s''<br>'''hyeawatasi'''<br>''either one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyeewa'''<br>''any two'' || '''hyeewasi'''<br>''any two things'' || '''hyeewati'''<br>''any two people''|| '''bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two persons&apos;''<br>'''hasi bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two persons&apos; (things)'' |- | '''hyeowa'''<br>''neither'' || '''hyeowas'''<br>''neither one'' || '''hyeowat'''<br>''neither person''|| '''hyeawata'''<br>''neither person&apos;s'' || '''hyeowatas'''<br>''neither one&apos;s''<br>'''hyeowatasi'''<br>''neither one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyuawa'''<br>''another'' || '''hyuawas'''<br>''another one'' || '''hyuawat'''<br>''another''|| '''hyuawata'''<br>''another&apos;s'' || '''hyuawatas'''<br>''another&apos;s''<br>'''hyuawatasi'''<br>''another&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyuowa'''<br>''no other'' || '''hyuowas'''<br>''nothing else'' || '''hyuowat'''<br>''nobody else''|| '''hyuowata'''<br>''no other&apos;s'' || '''hyuowatas'''<br>''no other&apos;s''<br>'''hyuowatasi'''<br>''no other&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''gawa'''<sup>2</sup><br>''another'' || '''gawas'''<br>''another one'' || '''gawat'''<br>''another (person)''|| '''gawata'''<br>''another&apos;s'' || '''gawatas'''<br>''another&apos;s''<br>'''gawatasi'''<br>''another&apos;s (things)'' |} <small> :: Note 1) '''Hawa''' and '''hyawa''' are short for '''haawa''' and '''hyaawa''', respectively. :: Note 2) '''Gawa''' is short for '''ga awa''', ''yet one''. </small> ==== Notes on Numerical Deictic Determiners ==== : Examples using the above number-incorporating deictic determiners: ::* '''<u>Ohyawat</u> se iva bay eta vaod.'''....''<u>Not everyone</u> is happy with your decision.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaewasi</u> yafwe uxler yata efoni.'''....''<u>Both (things)</u> can serve our needs.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeawa</u> tim ivlaxo at.'''....''<u>Either</u> room will satisfy me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowas</u> oivlaxo at.'''....''<u>Neither one</u> will dissatisfy me.'' : Note: ::* '''hyua''' means ''another (an alternative)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hyua</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>another (a different)</u> drink.'' ::* '''hyuawa''' means ''another (an additional)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hyuawa</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>another (an additional)</u> drink.'' ::* '''hahyua''' means ''the other (the alternative)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hahyua</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>the other</u> drink.'' And, note the following expressions: ::* '''duhohyua'''....''what other, which other'' ::* '''hehyua'''....''some other'' ::* '''hihyua'''....''this other'' ::* '''huhyua'''....''that other'' ::* '''hyahyua'''....''all other, any other, each other'' ::* '''hyehyua'''....''any other, whatever other'' ::* '''hyohyua'''....''no other'' : Similarly, '''hya''' means ''every, all'', while '''hyawa''' means ''each'', and '''hyaha'''....''all the'', ex: ::* '''<u>Hya</u> dom ayse tebixea suni teaxer.'''....''<u>Every</u> city has interesting things to see.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> domi ayse tebixusi.'''....''<u>All</u> cities have things of interest.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaha</u> domi ayse tebixusi.'''....''<u>All the</u> cities have things of interest.'' ::* '''<u>Hyawa</u> dom ayse tebixun.'''....''<u>Each</u> city has something of interest.'' : Also, '''ha''' means ''the'', while '''hawa''' means ''the only'', eg.: ::* '''<u>Ha</u> twob hu at gwa ife se et.'''....''<u>The</u> man I most love is you.'' ::* '''<u>Hawa</u> toyb nazea ata tepzex se et.'''....''<u>The only</u> woman worth my attention is you.'' : By appending '''y''' to '''hawa''', we get the adverb '''haway'''....''only, solely'', eg; ::* '''<u>Haway</u> et nize ata tepzex.'''....''<u>Only</u> you deserve my attention.''. : The singular person pronouns in the above chart can be converted into pronominal determiners by adding the adjective suffix '''a''', eg.: ::* '''<u>Hyawata</u> tej se ge glatesa vyel hyutas.'''....''<u>Each one's</u> life is as important as another's.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowata</u> dyun se vyama.'''....''<u>Neither person's</u> name is real.'' : However, the plural person pronouns in the above chart use the preposition '''bi''' (''of'') to form possessives, eg.: ::* '''Ha teji <u>bi hyaiwati</u> se kyebukuwa.'''....''The lives <u>of all three</u> are in danger.'' : The above singular pronominal determiners can, in turn, be converted into inanimate pronouns with the suffix '''-s'''. ::* '''<u>Hyawatas</u> se glatesa.'''....''<u>Each one's</u> is important.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowatas</u> se vyama.'''....''<u>Neither's</u> is real.'' : The plural pronominal determiners can be nominalized with the use of '''bi''', eg: ::* '''<u>Hyaiwasi</u> <u>bi huti</u> se kyebukuwa.'''....''<u>All three</u> <u>of theirs'</u> are in danger.'' : Correlative Number-incorporating Deictic Determiners are handled as follows: ::* '''Hyeawa A ey B'''....''either A or B'' ::* '''Hyeowa A oy B'''....''neither A nor B'' ::* '''Hyaewa A ay B'''....''both A and B'' ::* '''Hawa A, voy B'''....''only A, not B'' : The different, somewhat confusing, meanings of ''how'' are illustrated here: ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> wit xa hus?'''....''<u>How</u> did he do that?''.... (Equivalent to '''Be duha byen...?'''....''In what way...?'') (ADVERB OF MANNER) ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et xeye?'''....''<u>How</u> are you doing?''.... (This is the normal way of saying ''How are you?'' or ''How do you do?'' (ADVERB OF MANNER) ::* '''<u>Duhoyena</u> sa ha dyezun?'''....'' <u>How</u> was the film?''.... (''How'' here is an ADJECTIVE OF KIND, and thus ends in '''-a'''.) ::* '''<u>Duhonog (= Duhogla)</u> aga it se?'''....''<u>How</u> big is he?''.... (ADVERB OF DEGREE) ::* '''<u>Huunog (= Huugla)</u> iyfla et se!'''....''<u>How</u> nice you are!''.... (ADVERB OF EMPHATIC DEGREE) : The conjunction ''as'' is expressed most often using relative pro-adverbs of manner: ::* '''Xu <u>hoyen</u> at de.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I say.'' = (in) the way that... ::* '''Xu <u>hyiyen</u>''' (~ '''geyen''') '''at xe.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I do. ( = (in) the same way that...)'' ::* '''Xu <u>hiiyen</u>:'''....''Do <u>as follows</u>. ( = (in) this hereby manner...)'' : However, the preposition/conjunction '''gel''' (''like, as'') can be substituted: ::* '''Xu <u>gel</u> at de.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I say.'' : Many of the determiner adverbs in the above chart can be used in relative clauses, eg: ::* '''At teato et <u>hoj</u> et puo him.'''....''I will see you <u>when</u> you get here.'' ::* '''It xa has <u>avhos van</u> tosa yefa.'''....''He did it <u>because (for the reason that)</u> he felt compelled.'' ::* '''<u>Hyem</u> et po, et so ga iva.'''....''<u>Wherever</u> you go, you'll be happier.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> te ha did, yabu eta tuyab.'''....''<u>Whoever</u> knows the answer, raise your hand.'' ::* '''At te <u>hoyen</u> et xa is.'''....''I know <u>how</u> you did it.'' : See more about this in the section on [[Mirad_Grammar/Syntax#Relative_Clauses|relative clauses under Syntax]]. === Pronominal Deictic Determiners === : Some words in Mirad incorporate deictic prefixes with pronouns and pronominal adjectives, as shown in the following chart: {{small/top}} :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size;smaller;" |+ Pronominal Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! colspan=3 | Pronoun |- ! 1st Person Plural !! 2nd Person Plural !! 3rd Person Plural |- | '''duhoyat'''<br>''which of us'' || '''duhoyet'''<br>''which of you'' || '''duhoyit'''<br>''which of them'' |- | '''heyat'''<br>''some of us'' || '''heyet'''<br>''some of you'' || '''heyit'''<br>''which of them'' |- | '''hyayat'''<br>''each of us'' || '''hyayet'''<br>''each of you'' || '''hyayit'''<br>''each of them'' |- | '''hyeyat'''<br>''any of us'' || '''hyeyet'''<br>''any of you'' || '''hyeyit'''<br>''any of them'' |- | '''hyoyat'''<br>''none of us'' || '''hyoyet'''<br>''none of you'' || '''hyoyit'''<br>''none of them'' |- ! colspan=3 | Pronominal Adjective |- ! 1st Person (Plural) !! 2nd Person (Plural) !! 3rd Person (Plural) |- | '''duhoyata'''<br>''which of our'' || '''duhoyet'''<br>''which of your'' || '''duhoyita'''<br>''which of their'' |- | '''heyata'''<br>''some of our'' || '''heyeta'''<br>''some of your'' || '''heyita'''<br>''which of their'' |- | '''hyayata'''<br>''each of our'' || '''hyayeta'''<br>''each of your'' || '''hyayita'''<br>''each of their'' |- | '''hyeyata'''<br>''any of our'' || '''hyeyeta'''<br>''any of your'' || '''hyeyita'''<br>''any of their'' |- ! colspan=3 | Singular/(Plural) Possessive Pronoun |- ! 1st Person (Plural) !! 2nd Person (Plural) !! 3rd Person (Plural) |- | '''duhoyatas(i)'''<br>''which of ours'' || '''duhoyetas(i)'''<br>''which of yours'' || '''duhoyitas(i)'''<br>''which of theirs'' |- | '''heyatas(i)'''<br>''some of ours'' || '''heyetas(i)'''<br>''some of yours'' || '''heyitas(i)'''<br>''which of theirs'' |- | '''hyayatas(i)'''<br>''each of ours'' || '''hyayetas(i)'''<br>''each of yours'' || '''hyayitas(i)'''<br>''each of theirs'' |- | '''hyeyatas(i)'''<br>''any of ours'' || '''hyeyetas(i)'''<br>''any of yours'' || '''hyeyitas(i)'''<br>''any of theirs'' |- | '''hyoyatas(i)'''<br>''none of ours'' || '''hyoyetas(i)'''<br>''none of yours'' || '''hyoyitas(i)'''<br>''none of theirs'' |} {{small/end}} : The above possessive pronouns refer to things. If you replace the final '''-s''' or '''-si''', to '''-t''' or '''-ti''', then they become animate and refer to people, eg.: ::* '''Ese ewa tudi him. Duhoyitas se his?'''....''There are two children here. Which one of theirs is this?'' : All of the forms in the above chart can also be expressed as separate words, eg.: ::* '''Duhoyet?'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Duhoat bi yet?'''....''Which one of you?'' ::* '''Hyayat'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaglati bi yet'''....''All of us.'' ::* '''Hyoyatasi'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyogla yatasi'''....''All of ours (things)'' Note: ::* '''Awayat'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Awat bi yat'''....''one of us'' ::* '''Hyaewayet'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaewat bi yet'''....''both of you'' ::* '''Hyaiwayit'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaiwat bi yit'''....''all three of them'' === Quantitative Deictic Determiners === : The deictic prefixes can be combined with '''gla''' to form quantitative expressions acting as adverbial or adjectival determiners, and substantives (pronouns referring to things or people): {{small/top}} :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size;smaller;" |+ Quantitative Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! !! Adverbial / Adjectival<br>Determiner !! Inanimate Singular<br>Pronoun !! Inanimate Plural <br>Pronoun !! Animate Plural<br>Pronoun |- !row=1|Interrogative | '''duhogla?'''<br>''how?/how much?/how many?'' || '''duhoglas?'''<br>''how much?'' || '''duhoglasi?'''<br>''how many'' || '''duhoglati?'''<br>''how many (people)?'' |- !row=1|Relative | '''hogla'''<br>''as many/much'' || '''hoglas'''<br>''how much'' || '''duhoglasi'''<br>''how many'' || '''duhoglati'''<br>''how many (as)'' |- !row=1|Definite | '''hagla'''<br>''how/as much/as many'' || '''haglas'''<br>''as much'' || '''haglasi'''<br>''as many'' || '''haglati'''<br>''as many (people)'' |- !row=1|Indefinite | '''hegla'''<br>''somewhat/some/some'' || '''heglas'''<br>''some'' || '''heglasi'''<br>''some'' || '''heglati'''<br>''some (people)'' |- !row=1|Proximal | '''higla'''<br>''this/this much/this many'' || '''higlas'''<br>''this much'' || '''higlasi'''<br>''this many'' || '''higlati'''<br>''this many (people)'' |- !row=1|Distal | '''hugla'''<br>''that/that much/that many'' || '''huglas'''<br>''that much'' || '''huglasi'''<br>''that many'' || '''huglati'''<br>''that many (people)'' |- !row=1|Intensive | '''huugla'''<br>''so very, so much, so many'' || '''huuglas'''<br>''so much'' || '''huuglasi'''<br>''so many'' || '''huuglati'''<br>''so many (people)'' |- !row=1|Negative | '''hyogla'''<br>''none, not very'' || '''hyoglas'''<br>''none of it'' || '''hyoglasi'''<br>''none of them '' || '''hyoglati'''<br>''none'' |- !row=1|Distributive | '''hyagla'''<br>''totally/all/all'' || '''hyaglas'''<br>''all of it'' || '''hyaglasi'''<br>''all of them'' || '''hyaglati'''<br>''all'' |- !row=1|Indeterminate | '''hyegla'''<br>''however/any/any'' || '''hyeglas'''<br>''any of it'' || '''hyeglasi'''<br>''any of them'' || '''hyeglati'''<br>''any number of them'' |- !row=1|Identical | '''hyigla'''<br>''as/as much/as many, equally'' || '''hyiglas'''<br>''the same amount'' || '''hyiglasi'''<br>''the same number'' || '''hyiglati'''<br>''as many (people)'' |- !row=1|Non-identical | '''hyugla'''<br>''not as much/not as much/not as many'' || '''hyuglas'''<br>''a different amount'' || '''hyuglasi'''<br>''a different number of things'' || '''hyuglati'''<br>''a different number of people'' |} {{Small/end}} : Here are some examples showing how these quantitative determiners are used: ::* '''Et deuze <u>huugla</u> fi.'''....''You sing <u>so</u> well.'' ::* '''At se <u>hegla</u> booka.'''....''I am <u>somewhat</u> tired.'' ::* '''<u>Duhogla</u> pati et teata hijub?'''....''<u>How many</u> birds did you see today?'' ::* '''At teata vyavay <u>hugla</u> tami.'''....''I saw exactly <u>that many</u> houses.'' ::* '''Iyt fe <u>hyiglas</u> vyel et.'''....''She wants <u>the same amount</u> as you.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoglati</u> yantexe yet?'''....''<u>How many (people)</u> agree with you?'' ::* '''<u>Hyoglati</u> yantexe.'''....''<u>None</u> agree.'' ::* '''Yit fu <u>heglasi</u>.'''....''They would like <u>some (of them)</u>.'' ::* '''Et yafe bier <u>hyeglasi</u> et fe.'''....''You can take <u>however many</u> you want.'' ::* '''Besu bay at <u>hogla</u> job et fe.'''....''Stay <u>as</u> long with me as you want.'' ::* '''At se <u>huugla</u> booka.'''....''I am <u>so</u> tired.'' : NOTE: The following determiners are synonymous and interchangeable: ::* '''hegla''' = '''gle''' = '''henog''' (''somewhat, to some degree'') ::* '''hyigla''' = '''ge''' = '''hyinog''' (''as, equally, to the same degree'') : The determiner ''huugla'' can be used as an exclamatory adverb, eg.: ::* '''<u>Huugla</u> et agsaye!'''....''<u>How</u> you have grown!'' ::* '''Hua twob jagsaye <u>huugla</u>!'''....''That man has aged <u>so much</u>!'' ::* '''Hia jotul se <u>huugla</u> fiteluza!'''....''This dessert is <u>sooo</u> delicious!'' == Pronominal Determiners == : Pronominal Determiners are what are more often called '''''possessive adjectives''''' such as ''my'' or ''your'' and are discussed in a subsection of [[Mirad Grammar/Pronouns#Pronominal Determiners|Pronouns]]. == Quantitative Determiners == : '''''Quantitative determiners''''' act in one of several ways, they: ::* specify mass, uncountable, singular nouns for relative AMOUNT, eg. ''much happiness, less work'' ::* specify countable nouns for relative NUMBER, eg. ''one apple, two birds, many places'' ::* specify adverbs, adjectives, and verbs for relative DEGREE, eg. ''how poorly, very good, eat too much''. : From these, pronominalized quantitative determiners for PERSONS and THINGS can be derived. ::* Inanimate singular pronouns are formed by adding '''s''' for AN AMOUNT OF A THING ::* Inanimate plural pronouns are formed by adding '''si''' for A NUMBER OF THINGS ::* Animate plural pronouns are formed by adding '''ti''' for A NUMBER OF PERSONS. : The following table presents most of these word forms (Note that the determiners are in a plus (+), equal (=), or minus (-) row.): {| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; margin-left:1.6em; font-size:smaller;" |+ Quantitative Determiners |- !colspan=2|Adverb / Adjective !! Singular Pronoun !!colspan=2| Plural Pronoun |- !colspan=2|Degree/Amount/Number !! Amount !! Number of Things !! Number of People |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''ga'''....''more'' || '''gas'''....''more (stuff)'' || '''gasi'''....''many (things)'' || '''gati'''....''many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''ge'''....''as, as much, as many'' || '''ges'''....''as much (stuff)'' || '''gesi'''....''as many (things)'' || '''geti'''....''as many people'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''go'''....''less, fewer'' || '''gos'''....''less (stuff)'' || '''gosi'''....''fewer (things)'' || '''goti'''....''fewer (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gla'''....''very, much, many''<br>'''glay'''....''so, so much, so many''<br>'''glaa'''....''several'' || '''glas'''....''much (stuff)''<br>'''glays'''....''so much stuff'') || '''glasi'''....''many (things)''<br>'''glaysi'''....''so many (things)''<br>'''glaasi'''....''several things''|| '''glati'''....''many (people)''<br>'''glayti'''....''so many (people)''<br>'''glaati'''....''several people'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gle'''....''rather, quite a lot, quite a few'' || '''gles'''....''quite a lot (of stuff)'' || '''glesi'''....''quite a lot (of things)'' || '''gleti'''....''quite a few (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''glo'''....''slightly, a little, few'' || '''glos'''....''a little bit'' || '''glosi'''....''a few (things)'' || '''gloti'''....''few (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gra'''....''too, too much, too many'' || '''gras'''....''too much (stuff)'' || '''grasi'''....''too many (things)'' || '''grati'''....''too many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gre'''....''enough'' || '''gres'''....''enough (stuff)'' || '''gresi'''....''enough (things)'' || '''greti'''....''enough (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''gro'''....''insufficiently, too little, too few'' || '''gros'''....''too little'' || '''grosi'''....''too few'' || '''groti'''....''too few (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gwa'''....''most'' || '''gwas'''....''the most (stuff)'' || '''gwasi'''....''the most (things)'' || '''gwati'''....''most people'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gwe'''....''just so (much/many)'' || '''gwes'''....''just so much'' || '''gwesi'''....''just so many'' || '''gweti'''....''just so many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''gwo'''....''least'' || '''gwos'''....''the least (stuff)'' || '''gwosi'''....''the least (number of)'' || '''gwoti'''....''the least number (of people)'' |} : Examples Using Graded Quantitative Determiners :: Adverbs of degree modifying an adjective: :::* '''At se <u>gla</u> iva.'''....''I am <u>very</u> happy.'' :::* '''Et sa <u>gra</u> uga.'''....''You were <u>too</u> slow.'' :: Adverbs of Degree modifying another adverb: :::* '''Twobi dale <u>ge</u> igay vyel toybi.'''....''Men talk <u>as</u> fast as women.'' :::* '''Yat yexe <u>ga igay</u> vyel yet.'''....''We work faster (= <u>more quickly</u>) than you.'' :: Adjectives quantifying a singular mass noun: :::* '''<u>Ga</u> nas efwo.'''....''<u>More</u> money will be needed.'' :::* '''<u>Gra</u> nas noxwa.'''....''<u>Too much</u> money was spent.'' :: Adjectives quantifying a plural countable noun (= things or people): :::* '''At ayse <u>gro</u> sari.'''....''I've got <u>too few</u> tools.'' :::* '''<u>Gla</u> tami osexwa.'''....''<u>Many</u> houses were destroyed.'' :::* '''Yat efe <u>gla ga</u> valkdibuti.'''....''We need <u>many more</u> policemen.'' :: Pronouns referring to a mass amount of something (= stuff): :::* '''<u>Gas</u> ilokeye.'''....''<u>More (stuff)</u> is leaking.'' :::* '''Et dileye <u>gras</u>.'''....''You are asking for <u>too much (stuff)</u>.'' :::* '''Yat kexo <u>gwas</u>.'''....''We will seek <u>as much (stuff) as possible</u>.'' :::* '''At iba <u>gwes</u>.'''....''I received <u>just the right amount.</u>'' :: Pronouns referring to a countable number of things: :::* '''Hisi se fia oy yat fe <u>gasi</u>.'''....''These (items) are good but we want <u>more (items)</u>.'' :::* '''At teate drilari oy <u>grosi</u>.'''....''I see pens, but <u>too few</u>.'' :: Pronouns referring to a countable number of people: :::* '''<u>Grati</u> xaye vyoki be hia yexem.'''....''<u>Too many (people)</u> have made mistakes at this work site.'' :::* '''<u>Glati</u> dyunwe oy <u>gloti</u> kebiwe.'''....''<u>Many</u> are called but <u>few</u> are chosen.'' == Numerical Determiners == : This category of determiners, which includes cardinal, ordinal and other number words like ''two'', ''a tenth'', and ''first'', is such a vast topic that it is treated in its own chapter [[Mirad_Grammar/Numbers]] <noinclude>{{Chapter navigation with TOC|Adverbs|Numbers}}</noinclude> f6ow1vro62jbcci69uwgcnkw58yo3ii 4520843 4520838 2025-07-01T19:37:33Z Tyoyafud 6233 /* Notes on Numerical Deictic Determiners */ 4520843 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>{{status|100%}}</noinclude> : Determiners are words that specify or point out the context of nouns and other parts of speech. The English determiner ''this'', for example, specifies a noun for its proximity to the current context. In English, demonstrative pronouns/adjectives/adverbs, possessive pronouns/adjectives, quantifiers like ''more'' and ''very'', and numeric expressions like ''both'' fall under this category. == Types of Determiners == : Determiners in Mirad fall into the following categories: ::{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Types of Determiners |- ! Type !! Also Known As !! English Examples |- !row=1| Deictic | Demonstrative Pronouns/Adjectives/Adverbs || ''the'', ''this'', ''some'', ''every'', ''which?'', ''when'' |- !row=1| Pronominal | Possessive Pronouns/Adjectives | ''my'', ''anybody&apos;s'', ''one&apos;s own'' |- !row=1| Quantitative | Quantifiers || ''more'', ''less'', ''very'' |- !row=1| Numerical | Numerals/Fractions/Ordinals/Dates, etc. || ''one'', ''half'', ''first'' |} : Furthermore, as for part of speech, determiners can be adjectives, pronouns, or adverbs. As adjectives, determiners can itemize or classify. As pronouns, they can refer to one or more persons (male or female) or things. As adverbs, they can specify circumstance, i.e. time, place, degree, kind, age, frequency, and so forth. == Deictic Determiners == : '''''Deictic determiners''''' are words which point out or ''specify'' other words as to their context, including what grammarians often call '''''demonstratives'''''. All deictic determiners in Mirad begin with the letter '''h'''. The letters following the '''h''' indicate the grammatical and semantic category. : Deictic determiners include the following traditional grammatical categories: <div style="background: lightyellow"> ::* '''''Demonstrative adjectives ''''' like ''this'', ''that'', ''those'', ''that one'' ::* '''''The definite article''''' ''the ''&nbsp;&nbsp; (which is really a '''''demonstrative adjective''''' like those above.) ::* '''''Demonstrative pronouns''''' like ''this'', ''that'', ''those'', ''that one'' ::* '''''Interrogative and relative pronouns''''' like ''who, which, that'' ::* '''''Indefinite adjectives''''' like ''any'', ''some'', ''all'', ''something'', ''such'', etc. ::* '''''Indefinite pronouns''''' like ''any'', ''some'', ''all'', ''something'', ''such'', etc. ::* '''''Pronouns, adjectives, and adverbs of quantity''''' like ''so much'', ''that many'', ''how many?'', ''very'', etc. ::* '''''Adverbs of circumstance:''''' :::* '''''time''''' like ''when'', ''now'', ''ever'' :::* '''''place''''' like ''there'', ''here'', ''somewhere'' :::* '''''manner''''' like ''how'', ''thus'', ''somehow'' :::* '''''kind''''' like ''so'', age ''this year old'' :::* '''''direction''''' like ''that way'', ''any which way'' :::* '''''reason''''' ''why?'', ''for that reason'', ''for no reason'' :::* '''''degree''''' ''this (well)'', ''so (good)'', ''how (bad)'' :::* '''''frequency''''' like ''how often'', ''so often'', ''never'' :::* '''''age''''' like ''this old'', ''how old?'', ''of any age'' </div> === Deictic Prefixes === [[File:Deixis (DE).png|thumb|none]] : There is a whole set of '''''correlative deictic prefixes''''', which are joined to circumstantial stub category suffixes to derive pronoun, adjective, and adverb determiners. In some grammars, these words are called ''wh-question words and their pointed answers''. For example, QUESTION: <u>Who</u> is your wife? ANSWER: <u>This</u> is my wife. (or) QUESTION: <u>Where</u> is your house? ANSWER: My house is <u>here</u>. These word forms are called correlative because they relate to one another in way that can be mapped to a table. : Here are the Mirad deictic classification prefixes: :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Deictic Prefixes |- ! Classification !! Deictic Prefix |- ! scope="row" | Interrogative | '''duho-...?'''....''what?, which?'' |- ! scope="row" | Relative | '''ho-'''....''which, that'' |- ! scope="row" | Exclamatory | '''hoo-'''....''how...!'' |- ! scope="row" | Definite | '''ha-'''....''the'' |- ! scope="row: | Indefinite | '''he-'''....''some, a certain'' |- ! scope="row" | Proximal | '''hi-'''....''this, these'' |- ! scope="row" | Immediate | '''hii-'''....''the following'' |- ! scope="row" | Distal | '''hu-'''....''that, those'' |- ! scope="row" | Intensive | '''huu-'''....''such, so, what a...!'' |- ! scope="row" | Distributive | '''hya-'''....''every, all, each'' |- ! scope="row" | Indeterminate | '''hye-'''....''any, whatever'' |- ! scope="row" | Negative | '''hyo-'''....''no, not any'' |- ! scope="row | Identical | '''hyi-'''....''the same, the very'' |- ! scope="row" | Non-identical | '''hyu-'''....''the other, another, else'' |} : Note: The Identical ('''hyi-''') and Non-identical prefixes ('''hyu-''') can optionally be substituted with '''ge-''' (''same'') and '''oge-''' (different), respectively. === Circumstantial Category Suffixes === : The table below shows word stub suffixes that indicate the circumstantial category of deictic expressions. They are called stubs, because they are reduced word forms. The combination of deictic prefixes and circumstantial stub suffixes produce a matrix of deictic '''''correlatives''''', seen later in this chapter. Use of the stub instead of the long form is a matter of optional economy. A few categories do not have stubs. :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Category Stubs |- ! Category !! Stub Suffix !! Long Form !! Short Question Form || Long Question Form |- ! row=1| Person | '''-t''' || '''<u>t</u>ob'''....''person'' || '''duhot?'''....''who?''|| '''duhotob?''' |- ! row=1| Thing | '''-s''' ||'''<u>s</u>un'''....''thing'' || '''duhos?'''....''what?''|| '''duhosun?''' |- ! row=1| Place | '''-m''' ||'''ne<u>m</u>'''....''place'' || '''duhom?'''....''where?''|| '''duhonem?''' |- ! row=1| Time | '''-j''' ||'''<u>j</u>ob'''....''time'' || '''duhoj?'''....''when?''|| '''duhojob?''' |- ! row=1| Manner | '''-yen''' ||'''b<u>yen</u>'''....''manner'' || '''duhoyen?'''....''how?''||'''duhobyen?''' |- ! row=1| Kind | '''-yena''' ||'''sauna</u>'''....''kind of'' || '''duhoyena?'''....''what kind of?''||'''duhosauna?''' |- ! row=1| Degree | '''-gla''' ||'''nog'''....''degree'' || '''duhogla (fi)?'''....''how (well)?''||'''duhonog?''' |- ! row=1| Number | '''-gla''' ||'''sag'''....''number'' || '''duhogla (pati)?'''....''how many (birds)?''||'''duhosag?''' |- ! row=1| Mass Quantity | '''-gla''' ||'''glan'''....''amount'' || '''duhogla (mil)?'''....''how much (water)?''||'''duhoglan?''' |- ! row=1| Frequency | ||'''xag'''....''frequency''|| '''duhoxag?'''....''how often?''|| -- |- ! row=1| Reason | '''-avhos''' || '''av hosun'''....''reason'' || '''duavhos?'''....''why?''|| '''duavhosun?''' |- ! row=1| Age | ||'''jaga'''....''of age'' || '''duhojaga?'''....''how old?''|| -- |} : There can be other circumstantial categories other than those listed above, such as "direction", "order", etc. eg. '''Duhomep wit pa?'''....''Which way did he go?''. === Charts of Correlative Deictic Determiners === : Here is are three tables showing the matrix of correlative deictic determiners. Note that the determiners belong to three parts of speech, 1) adjectives, 2) pronouns, and 3) adverbs: :{| class="wikitable" font-size:smaller style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |- ! Part of Speech !! Ending |- | Adjective || '''-a''' |- | Pronoun || '''-t(i)''', '''-s(i)''' |- | Adverb || (no ending) |} ==== Deictic Determiner Adjectives ==== : All deictic determiner adjectives end in '''-a''' and are used to modify nouns. :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Adjectives |- valign=top ! !! Selective<br>-a!! Possessive<br>-ta !! Kind/Manner<br>-yena !! Quantity<br>-gla !! Age<br>-jaga |- ! Interrogative |'''duhoa?'''<br>''which?''||'''duhota?'''<br>''whose?''|| '''duhoyena?'''<br>''what kind of?''||'''duhogla?'''<br>''how much/many?'' ||'''duhojaga?'''<br>''how old?'' |- valign=top ! Relative |'''hoa'''<br>''which''||'''hota'''<br>''whose''|| '''hoyena'''<br>''what kind of''||'''hogla'''<br>''how much/many'' ||'''hojaga'''<br>''how old'' |- valign=top ! Exclamatory |'''hooa'''<br>''what a...!''|| || ||'''hoogla'''<br>''look how much/many...!'' ||'''hoojaga'''<br>''how old a...!'' |- valign=top ! Definite |'''ha'''<sup>1</sup><br>''the''||'''hatas'''<br>''the person’s''|| '''hayena'''<br>''of the kind''||'''hagla'''<br>''of the amount'' ||'''hajaga'''<br>''of the age'' |- valign=top ! Indefinite |'''hea'''<br>''some/a certain''||'''heta'''<br>''someone's''|| '''heyena'''<br>''some kind of''||'''hegla'''<br>''some'' ||'''hejaga'''<br>''somewhat old'' |- valign=top ! Proximal |'''hia'''<br>''this''||'''hita'''<br>''this person’s''|| '''hiyena'''<br>''this kind of''||'''higla'''<br>''this much'' ||'''hijaga'''<br>''this old'' |- valign=top ! Immdediate |'''hiia'''<br>''the following''||'''hiita'''<br>''the follow person’s''|| '''hiiyena'''<br>''the following kind of'' || '''hiigla'''<br>''to the following degree'' ||'''hiijaga'''<br>''of the following age'' |- valign=top ! Distal |'''hua'''<br>''that''||'''huta'''<br>''that person’s''|| '''huyena'''<br>''that kind of'' ||'''hugla'''<br>''that much/many'' ||'''hujaga'''<br>''of that age'' |- valign=top ! Intensive |'''huua'''<br>''such a''||'''huuta'''<br>''such a person’s''|| '''huuyena'''<br>''such kind of'' ||'''huugla'''<br>''so much/many'' ||'''huujaga'''<br>''of such an age'' |- valign=top ! Negative |'''hyoa'''<br>''no''||'''hyota'''<br>''nobody’s''|| '''hyoyena'''<br>''no kind of'' ||'''hyogla'''<br>''no amount/number of'' ||'''hyojaga'''<br>''of no age'' |- valign=top ! Distributive |'''hya'''<sup>1</sup><br>''every, all''||'''hyata'''<br>''everybody’s''|| '''hyayena'''<br>''every kind of'' ||'''hyagla'''<br>''all'' ||'''hyajaga'''<br>''of every age'' |- valign=top ! Indeterminate |'''hyea'''<br>''whichever/any''<sup>2</sup>||'''hyeta'''<br>''whosever''|| '''hyeyena'''<br>''whatever/any kind of'' ||'''hyegla'''<br>''however much/many'' ||'''hyejaga'''<br>''however old'' |- valign=top ! Identical |'''hyia'''<br>''the same''||'''hyita'''<br>''the same person’s''|| '''hyiyena'''<br>''the same kind of'' ||'''hyigla'''<br>''just as'' ||'''hyijaga'''<br>''just as old'' |- valign=top ! Non-identical |'''hyua'''<br>''the other''||'''hyuta'''<br>''someone else's''|| '''hyuyena'''<br>''another kind of'' ||'''hyugla'''<br>''not as much/many'' ||'''hyujaga'''<br>''of another age'' |} : There are other adjectival determiners such as '''duhonoga'''....''how/to what degree'', '''duhosauna'''....''what kind of'' that are not included in the above chart. :Note 1) The determiners '''ha''' (''the'') and '''hya''' (''every'') are shortened forms of '''haa''' and '''hyaa'''. Also, '''ha''' is commonly called a "definite article". ::* While '''hya''' means ''every'' or ''all'', the word '''hyawa''' is used for ''each''. ::* The possessive adjective forms in the above table ending in '''-ta''' such as '''hyeta'''....''whosever'' cannot be pluralized by the ending '''-tia'''. To say '''other people's''', use the expression '''bi hyuti''' (Lit. ''of others''). ::* The '''ho-''' words are relative, meaning that they can serve to form relative clauses like the following: :::* '''Ha toyb, <u>hota</u> twad se Bill,'''....''The woman, <u>whose</u> husband is Bill,'' :::* '''At voy te <u>hos</u> et tepfe.'''....''I don't know <u>what</u> you mean.'' :::* '''At teste <u>hogla</u> et fie iyt.'''....''I understand <u>how much</u> you love her.'' ::* The '''hoo-''' words are exclamatory and are used in expressions like the following: :::* '''<u>Hoogla</u> iva se at van et upa!'''....''<u>How</u> glad I am that you came!'' :::* '''<u>Hooa</u> jub his saye!'''....''<u>What a</u> day this has been!'' ('''Hooa''' is pronounced ''ho-O-a'' as three syllables.) :Note 2) The indeterminant determiners can also be translated with ''no matter what, no matter where, etc.'' ==== Deictic Determiner Pronouns ==== : All deictic determiner pronouns end either in '''-t''' for persons or '''-s''' for things. They can be singular or plural ('''-i'''). :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Pronouns |- valign=top ! !! Thing -s<br>Things -si !! Person -t<br>Persons -ti !! Kind of Thing -yenas<br>Kinds of Things -yenasi !! Amount -glas<br>Number of Things -glasi !! Number of People -glati |- valign=center ! Interrogative |'''duhos?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what?''<br>'''duhosi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what (things)?''|| '''duhot?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who?''<br>'''duhoti?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who (pl.)''|| '''duhoyenas?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what kind of thing?'' <br>'''duhoyenasi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;what kinds of things?|| '''duhoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how much?''<br>'''duhoglasi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many things?''|| '''duhoglati?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many people?'' |- valign=center ! Relative |'''hos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what''<br>'''hosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what''|| '''hot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who''<br>'''hoti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who''|| '''hoyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what kind of thing'' <br>'''hoyenasi'''|| '''hoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how much''<br>'''hoglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many''|| '''hoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many'' |- ! Exclamatory |'''hoos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a thing!''<br>'''hoosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what things!''|| '''hoot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a person!''<br>'''hooti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what people!''|| || '''hooglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what an amount!''<br>'''hooglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a number!''|| '''hoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a number of people!'' |- valign=center ! Definite |'''has'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''it''<br>'''hasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''they/them''|| '''hat'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''he/she/him/her''<br>'''hati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''they/them''|| '''hayenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the king of thing''<br>'''hayenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the kind of things''|| '''haglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the amount'' <br>'''haglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the number of things''|| '''haglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the number of people'' |- valign=center ! Indefinite |'''hes'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''something''<br>'''hesi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some things''|| '''het'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''someone''<br>'''heti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some''|| '''heyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some kind of thing'' <br>'''heyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some kinds of thing''|| '''heglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some''<br>'''heglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some things''|| '''heglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some people'' |- valign=center ! Proximal |'''his'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this''<br>'''hisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these''|| '''hit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this person''<br>'''hiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these people''|| '''hiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this kind of thing'' <br>'''hiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these kinds of things''|| '''higlas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this much''<br>'''higlasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this many''|| '''higlati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this many people'' |- valign=center ! Immediate |'''hiis'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following thing''<br>'''hiisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following things''|| '''hiit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following person''<br>'''hiiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following people''|| '''hiiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following kind of thing'' <br>'''hiiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following kinds of things''|| '''hiiglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following amount''<br>'''hiiglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this following number of things''|| '''hiiglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following number of people'' |- valign=center ! Distal |'''hus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that''<br>'''husi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those''|| '''hut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that person''<br>'''huti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those people''|| '''huyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that kind of thing'' <br>'''huyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those kinds of things''|| '''huglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that much''<br>'''huglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that many''|| '''huglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that many people'' |- valign=center ! Intensive |'''huus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a thing''<br>'''huusi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such things''|| '''huut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a person''<br>'''huuti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such people''|| '''huuyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a kind of thing'' <br>'''huuyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such kinds of things''|| '''huuglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so much''<br>'''huuglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so many''|| '''huuglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so many people'' |- valign=center ! Negative |'''hyos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''nothing''<br>'''hyosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none of them''|| '''hyot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''nobody''<br>'''hyoti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none of them''|| '''hyoyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''no kind of thing'' <br>'''hyoyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''no kinds of things''|| '''hyoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none''<br>'''hyoglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none''|| '''hyoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none'' |- valign=center ! Distributive |'''hyas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''everything''<br>'''hyasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyat'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''everybody''<br>'''hyati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyayenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''every kind of'' <br>'''hyayenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all kinds of things''|| '''hyaglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of it''<br>'''hyaglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyaglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them'' |- valign=center ! Indeterminate |'''hyes'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''anything''<br>'''hyesi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any''|| '''hyet'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''anybody''<br>'''hyeti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of them''|| '''hyeyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any kind of'' <br>'''hyeyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''whatever things''|| '''hyeglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of it''<br>'''hyeglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of them''|| '''hyeglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''whoever'' |- valign=center ! Identical |'''hyis'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same thing''<br>'''hyisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same things''|| '''hyit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same person''<br>'''hyiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same people''|| '''hyiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same kind of'' <br>'''hyiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same kinds of things''|| '''hyiglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as much''<br>'''hyiglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as many''|| '''hyiglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as many people'' |- valign=center ! Non-identical |'''hyus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''something else''<br>'''hyusi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other things''|| '''hyut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''someone else''<br>'''hyuti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other people''|| '''hyuyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another kind'' <br>'''hyuyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other kinds''|| '''hyuglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another amount''<br>'''hyuglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another number of things''|| '''hyuglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another number of people'' |} : Concerning the above chart, note the following: ::* The interrogative determiners all begin with '''duho-''', which means '''say which''', and are technically imperatives. '''Duhom?''', for example, means '''Tell (me) the place...'''. The '''o'''-stem forms without the '''du-''' are used as relative clause heads, eg. '''At po <u>hom</u> et po.'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''I will go <u>where</u> you go.'' ::* Interrogatives usually come at the beginning of a sentence as in English, eg. '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* Determiners come first before any other epithets of a noun, eg. '''<u>Hia</u> aga jaga tam...'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''<u>This</u> big old house...''. ::* Person and Thing determiners can be made selective by inserting '''a''' before the final '''t''' or '''s''', eg. '''Duhot?''' means ''Who?'', while '''Duhoat?''' means ''Which one (of several persons)?'' ==== Deictic Determiner Adverbs ==== : All deictic determiner adverbs refer to a circumstance. :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Adverbs |- valign=top ! Circumstance--> !! Place<br>-m !! Time<br>-j !! Manner<br>-yen!! Degree<br>-gla !! Frequency<br>-xag !! Reason<br>-sav |- valign=center ! Interrogative | '''duhom?'''<br>''where?'' || '''duhoj?'''<br>''when?'' || '''duhoyen?'''<br>''how?'' || '''duhogla?'''<br>''how (very)?'' || '''duhoxag?'''<br>''how often?''|| '''duavhos?'''<sup>1</sup><br>''why?'' |- valign=center ! Relative | '''hom'''<br>''where'' || '''hoj'''<br>''when'' || '''hoyen'''<br>''how'' || '''hogla'''<br>''how (very)'' || '''hoxag'''<br>''how often'' || '''avhos (van)<sup>2</sup>'''<br>''because'' |- valign=center ! Exclamatory | || || '''hooyen'''<br>''and how!, such a...'' || '''hoogla'''<br>''how very...!, so...''<sup>3</sup> || || |- valign=center ! Definite | '''ham'''<br>''the place'' || '''haj'''<br>''the time'' || '''hayen'''<br>''the manner'' || '''hagla'''<br>''just as'' || '''haxag'''<br>''as frequently''|| '''avhas'''<br>''the reason'' |- valign=center ! Indefinite | '''hem'''<br>''somewhere'' || '''hej'''<br>''sometime'' || '''heyen'''<br>''somehow'' || '''hegla'''<br>''somewhat'' || '''hexag'''<br>''somewhat often''||'''avhes'''<br>''for some reason'' |- valign=center ! Proximal | '''him'''<br>''here'' || '''hij'''<br>''now'' || '''hiyen'''<br>''this way'' || '''higla'''<br>''this'' || '''hixag'''<br>''this often''||'''avhis'''<br>''for this reason'' |- valign=center ! Immediate | '''hiim'''<br>''the following place'' || '''hiij'''<br>''the following time'' || '''hiiyen'''<br>''the following way'' || '''hiigla'''<br>''to the following degree'' || '''hiixag'''<br>''at the following frequency''||'''avhiis'''<br>''for the following reason'' |- valign=center ! Distal | '''hum'''<br>''there'' || '''huj'''<br>''then'' || '''huyen'''<br>''that way'' || '''hugla'''<br>''to that degree'' || '''huxag'''<br>''that often''|| '''avhus'''<br>''therefore'' |- valign=center ! Intensive | '''huum'''<br>''such a place'' || '''huuj'''<br>''at such a time'' || '''huuyen'''<br>''in such a way'' || '''huugla'''<br>''so (very)'' || '''huuxag'''<br>''so often''|| '''avhuus'''<br>''for such a reason'' |- valign=center ! Negative | '''hyom'''<br>''nowhere'' || '''hyoj'''<br>''never'' || '''hyoyen'''<br>''in no way'' || '''hyogla'''<br>''not at all'' || '''hyoxag'''<br>''not once''|| '''avhyos'''<br>''for no reason'' |- valign=center ! Distributive | '''hyam'''<br>''everywhere'' || '''hyaj'''<br>''always'' || '''hyayen'''<br>''in every way'' || '''hyagla'''<br>''fully'' || '''hyaxag'''<br>''always''||'''avhyas'''<br>''for every reason'' |- valign=center ! Indeterminate | '''hyem'''<br>''anywhere'' || '''hyej'''<br>''whenever'' || '''hyeyen'''<br>''however'' || '''hyegla'''<br>''however'' || '''hyexag'''<br>''however often'' || '''avhyes'''<br>''for whatever reason'' |- valign=center ! Indentical | '''hyim'''<br>''at the same place'' || '''hyij'''<br>''at the same time'' || '''hyiyen'''<br>''in the same way'' || '''hyigla'''<br>''as'' || '''hyixag'''<br>''as often''|| '''avhyis'''<br>''for the same reason'' |- valign=center ! Non-identical | '''hyum'''<br>''somewhere else'' || '''hyuj'''<br>''some other time'' || '''hyuyen'''<br>''otherwise'' || '''hyugla'''<br>''not as'' || '''hyuxag'''<br>''not as often''||'''avhyus'''<br>''for some other reason'' |} :Note 1) '''Duavhos?''' translates literally to "Say for what?". :Note 2) The positive complimentizer '''van''' is optional. :Note 3) A clause following '''hoogla''' <ADJ>/<ADV> must be followed by '''van''', eg. '''Et eka <u>hoogla fi van</u> ha teexuti byasa ab yiti tyoyabi.'''....''You played <u>so well that</u> the audience stood on their feet.'' : Concerning the above chart, note the following: :* The interrogative determiners all begin with '''duho-''', which means '''say which''', and are technically imperatives. '''Duhom?''', for example, means '''Tell (me) the place...'''. The '''o'''-stem forms without the '''du-''' are used as relative clause heads, eg. '''At po <u>hom</u> et po.'''....''I will go <u>where</u> you go.'' :* Interrogatives usually come at the beginning of a sentence as in English, eg. '''<u>Duhom</u> se eta tam?'''....''<u>Where</u> is your house?'' :* Not included in the above chart is a related interrogative, which is a complementizer. ::* '''Duven...?'''.... (Question introducer) '''Is it true that...?, Say whether...''' :::* '''<u>Duven</u> et se tadxwa?'''....''Are you married? (= <u>Say whether</u> you are married.)'' :* The adverbs of degree in the above chart ('''duhogla?''', etc.) are interchangeable with adverbs ending in '''-nog'''....''degree'' ('''duhonog?'''....''to what degree?, how...?'', '''henog'''....''somewhat'') :* Other deictic determiner adverbs of circumstance exist and are not on the above chart: ::* '''duhomep?'''....''which way?'' :::* '''humep'''....''that way'' ::* '''duhobyun?'''....''to what end?'' :::* '''hyobyun'''....''for no purpose'' ::* '''duhoizon?'''....''in which direction?'' :::* ''''hyaizon'''....''in every direction'' ==== Examples of Deictic Determiner Usage ==== ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ('''Duhos''' is pronounced '''du-HOS''') ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> se iyta twad?'''....''<u>Who</u> is her husband?'' ::* '''<u>Duhowat</u> se iyta twad?'''....''<u>Which one of the guys</u> is her husband?'' (selective) ::* '''<u>Duhoti</u> fe eker?'''....''<u>Who (pl.)</u> want to play?'' ::* '''<u>Hyas</u> se fia.'''....''<u>Everything</u> is fine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyat</u> tre et.'''....''<u>Everyone</u> knows you.'' ::* '''<u>Hyot</u> tre at.'''....''<u>Nobody</u> knows me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyati</u> ekeye fi.'''....''<u>All of them</u> are playing well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoti</u> ekeye fi.'''....''<u>None of them</u> are playing well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> yafe eker.'''....''<u>Anyone</u> can play.'' ::* '''<u>Hyes</u> yafwe.'''....''<u>Anything</u> is possible.'' ::* '''At fe <u>hyuyenat</u> be ata ekutyan.'''....''I want <u>someone else</u> on my team.'' ::* '''<u>Huuyenati</u> fyuxe yata oj.'''....''<u>Such people</u> harm our future.'' ::* '''Et yefe tepier <u>hiisi</u>.'''....''You must bear in mind <u>the following things</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et xa hus.'''.....''<u>How</u> did you do that?'' (pronounced '''du-ho-YEN''') ::* '''<u>Duavhos</u> iyt pia <u>huugla</u> jwa?'''....''<u>Why</u> did she leave <u>so</u> early?'' ::* '''<u>Hwita</u> tam se ga aga.'''....''<u>This guy's</u> house is bigger.'' ::* '''At voy ayse ha dyuni <u>bi huyti</u>.'''....''I don't have <u>those women's</u> names.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoa</u> tam se etas?'''....''<u>Which</u> house is yours?'' ::* '''<u>Huua</u> tej et ayse!'''....''<u>What a</u> life you have!'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyena</u> dyezuni ifxe et?'''....''<u>What kind of</u> movies do you like?'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> tef okwa?'''....''<u>Whose</u> hat was lost?'' ::* '''<u>Hota</u> tef okwa bese otwas.'''....''<u>Whose</u> hat was lost remains a mystery.'' ::* '''<u>Ha</u> tob ta yata dyuni.'''....''<u>The</u> man knew our names.'' ::* '''<u>Hoyena</u> dini at ife, et ufe.'''....''<u>The kind of</u> stories I love, you hate.'' ::* '''<u>Hea</u> mepi gawdyunxwo.'''....''<u>Certain</u> streets will be renamed.'' ::* '''<u>Heyena</u> fukyes uxaye purilp nyaunx.'''....''<u>Some kind of</u> accident has caused a traffic jam.'' ::* '''<u>Heta</u> abtaf kaxwa be ha zatem.'''.....''<u>Someone's</u> coat was found in the foyer.'' ::* '''<u>Hia</u> dyes se ata gwafwas.'''....''<u>This</u> book is my favorite.'' ::* '''<u>Hiia</u> duni se ofwa.'''....''<u>The following</u> words are prohibited.'' ::* '''<u>Hiiyena</u> axlyen voy afwu.'''....''<u>The following sort of</u> behavior would not be allowed.'' ::* '''<u>Hiyena</u> axlyen voy vayafwo.'''....''<u>This type of</u> behavior will not be tolerated.'' ::* '''<u>Hita</u> tim so yolza.'''....''<u>This person's</u> room will be blue.'' ::* '''<u>Hua</u> mas efwe gawvozilbwer.'''....''<u>That</u> wall needs to be repainted.'' ::* '''<u>Huua</u> dini yufxe tudi.'''....''<u>Such</u> stories scare children.'' ::* '''<u>Huyena</u> duni voy yeyfwe yixwer za at.'''....''<u>Such</u> words should not be used in front of me.'' ::* '''<u>Hwuta</u> tam magseye.'''....''<u>That guy's</u> house is on fire.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoa</u> din se ga kyitesa.'''....''<u>No</u> story is more important.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoyena</u> tes tesiyafwe.'''....''<u>No such</u> meaning can be inferred.'' ::* '''<u>Hyota</u> jatexdras sa ga fia.'''....''<u>Nobody's</u> plan is better.'' ::* '''<u>Hyos</u> oboxe huyt.'''....''<u>Nothing</u> bothers that gal.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> mepi izpe Roma.'''....''<u>All</u> roads lead to Rome.'' ::* '''<u>Hya ha</u> mepi se ebwa.'''....''<u>All the</u> roads are blocked.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> twob yefe xer ita gon.'''....''<u>Every</u> man must do his part.'' ::* '''<u>Hyayena</u> telami ese be hia domep.'''....''<u>All manner of</u> restaurants exist on this street.'' ::* '''<u>Hyata</u> tej se uka bi yaobi.'''....''<u>Everyone's</u> life is full of ups and downs.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaewa</u> domi agsaye.'''....''<u>Both</u> cities have grown.'' ::* '''<u>Hyea</u> voz so fia.'''....''<u>Any</u> color will be fine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeyena</u> til se aysyafwa.'''....''<u>Any kind of</u> drink is available.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeta</u> ved se ge ifa vyel atas.'''....''<u>Anyone's</u> guess is as good as mine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyea</u> tim et fe et yafe ayser.'''....''<u>Whatever</u> room you want, you can have.'' ::* '''<u>Hyia</u>/(Ha gea) fukyesi kyese glaxag.'''....''<u>The same</u> accidents occur frequently.'' ::* '''<u>Hyiyena</u>/(Ha geyena) dyezuni teaxuwa zajub.'''....''<u>The same kind of</u> films were shown yesterday.'' ::* '''<u>Hyita</u>/(Ha geta) dyun yixwa gajod.'''....''<u>The same person's</u> name was used again.'' ::* '''<u>Hyua</u> dyezun sa ga ifuyea.'''....''<u>The other</u> movie was more entertaining.'' ::* '''<u>Hyuyena</u>/(Ogeyena) som teasu ga fia.'''....''<u>Another kind of</u> furniture would look better.'' ::* '''<u>Hyuta</u>/(ogeta) texyen se ge fyia.'''....''<u>Someone else's</u> opinion is equally valid.'' ::* '''Ha dyuni <u>bi hiyti</u> voy dodrawe.'''....''<u>These women's</u> names have not been made public.'' ::* '''Ha dyuni <u>bi hwiiti</u> voy dodrowe.'''....''<u>The following males'</u> names will not be publicized.'' ::* '''<u>Hijaga</u> tobweti voy afwo him.'''....''Boys <u>of this age</u> will not be allowed here.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> et tambese?'''....''<u>Where</u> do you live?'' ::* '''At tambese <u>hum</u>.'''....''I live <u>there</u>.'' ::* '''Et tambese <u>hom</u> ha mep uje.'''....''You live <u>where</u> the road ends.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> yet peye?'''....''<u>Where</u> are you people going?'' ::* '''Et yafe per <u>hyem</u> et fu.'''....''You can go <u>anywhere</u> you would like.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> et byise?'''....''<u>Where</u> are you from?'' (Lit: ''Where do you originate?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoj</u> et taja?'''....''<u>When</u> were you born?'' ::* '''At voy tajaya <u>huj</u>.'''....''I had not been born <u>then</u>.'' ::* '''Et yeyfe duder <u>hiiyen</u>.'''....''You should respond <u>in the following way</u>.'' ::* '''Ot voy yefe daler <u>huuyen</u>.'''....''One must not talk <u>in such a manner</u>.'' ::* '''Et pia <u>hesav</u>.'''....''He left <u>for some reason</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et iyfe hia vifil?'''....''<u>How</u> do like this wine?'' ::* '''Voy se fia axler <u>hiyen</u>.'''....''It is not good to act <u>this way</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duavhos</u> et tadia <u>huugla</u> jwa?'''....''<u>Why</u> did you marry <u>so</u> late?'' ::* '''Ha twob pia <u>avhyos</u>.'''....''The man left <u>for no reason</u>.'' ::* '''Hwat pia <u>avhos van</u> it efa per hem.'''....''The guy left <u>because</u> he needed to go somewhere.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeta</u> texyen so fia.'''....''<u>Anyone</u>'s opinion will be fine.'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> dyes se his?'''....''Whose book is this?'' ::* '''<u>Bi hoti</u> se hia dyesi?'''....''Whose are these books?'' ::* '''<u>Hyata</u> tili yebexe yom.'''....''<u>Everyone's</u> drinks contain ice.'' ::* '''Et se gaj <u>geyenat</u>( ~ <u>hyiyenat</u>).'''....''You are still <u>the same kind of person</u>.'' ::* '''At se <u>hoogla iva van</u> et upa!'''....''I am <u>so happy that</u> you came!'' ::* '''Yat tose <u>hyigla (van)</u> yet.'''....''We feel <u>(the same way) as</u> you (do).'' : Note, '''hyigla''' can be replaced with '''gel''': ::* '''Yet tose <u>gel</u> yet.'''....''We feel <u>as</u> you do.'' : The semantic reverser '''o-''' can be prefixed to some of the above deictic determiners: :: '''<u>Ohyat</u> tiste Platon.'''....''<u>Not everyone</u> understands Plato.'' :: '''<u>Ohut!</u>'''....''Not that person!'' :: '''At iyfe gwa apovili, oy <u>ohuas</u>!'''....''I like most beers, but <u>not that one</u>!'' : If the definite article or any other deictic determiner is omitted before a noun, then it has the effect of the English indefinite article ''a / an'' with a singular noun or ''some'' with a plural noun. For example: ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ha tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>a glass</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ha tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>(some) glasses</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>awa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>one glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha awa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the one glass</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>two glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the two glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>hyaewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>both glasses</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>owa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>no/zero glasses (=not a single glass)</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ea tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>another/a second glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ea tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the second glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ea tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>second glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ea tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the second glasses</u> of wine.'' : If an indefinite article sense is needed for clarity, the words '''awa''' (''one'') or '''hea''' (''some, a certain'') can be used, eg.: ::* '''At igteata <u>awa</u> tob yiztyoper.'''....''I glimpsed <u>a</u> man walk by.'' ::* '''Wit zoyupo <u>hea</u> jub.'''....''He will come back <u>a / a certain / some</u> day.'' ==== Selective vs. Non-Selective Forms ==== : The deictic interrogative determiner pronoun '''duhot?''' means ''who(m)'' and contrasts with its '''''selective''''' counterpart '''duhoat?''', which means ''which one?''. All the selective determiners refer to one or more things or persons from a selectable pool of things or persons. : The following sentences illustrate the use of the above determiner pronouns: ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> aka zajuba ek?'''....''<u>Who</u> won yesterday's game?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoat</u> bi ha akuti sa ha gwa fiat?'''....''<u>Which one</u> of the winners was the best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> tam se hus?'''....''<u>Whose</u> house is that?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotas</u> se hus?'''....''<u>Whose</u> is that?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotia</u> deuzi et gaife?'''....''<u>Whose</u> songs do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotias</u> et gaife?'''....''<u>Whose</u> do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* '''<u>Duhosi</u> se eta gaifuni?'''....''<u>What</u> are your preferences?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoa</u> deuzi se eta gwa fiasi?'''....''<u>Which</u> songs are your best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoasi</u> se eta gwa fiasi?'''....''<u>Which ones</u> are your best?'' ::* '''Bi hia deuzuti, <u>hoat</u> et gaife?'''....''Of these vocalists, <u>which one</u> do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Hiiti</u> yaneko hijub.'''....''<u>The following people</u> will compete today.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoati</u> se gwa fia?'''....''<u>Which ones</u> are best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoti</u> et teexe gwa jodi?'''....''<u>Who (all)</u> do you listen to the most often?'' ::* '''<u>Hoat</u> at teexe gwaxag draye ejna deuz.'''....''<u>The one</u> I listen to the most has written a new song.'' ::* '''Ejna deuz? At voy teste <u>hoas</u> et tede.'''....''New song? I don't understand <u>which one</u> you mean.'' ::* '''<u>Hias</u>.'''....''<u>This one</u>.'' ::* '''Vo. <u>Huasi</u> se ga fia.'''....''No. <u>Those</u> are better.'' ::* '''<u>His</u> se jub av ivxelen.'''....''<u>This</u> is a day for celebration.'' ::* '''Va. <u>Hia</u> jub. At tese <u>hi</u>jub.'''....''Yes. <u>This</u> day. I mean <u>To-</u>day.'' ::* '''<u>Husi</u> sa <u>ha</u> jubi, ata dat!'''....''<u>Those</u> were <u>the</u> days, my friend!'' ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> aka ha igpek?'''....''<u>Who</u> won the race?'' ::* '''<u>Hyas</u> uja fi.'''....''<u>Everything</u> ended well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyasi</u> uje.'''....''<u>All things</u> come to an end.'' ::* '''<u>Hyayenasi</u> vey kyesu.'''....''<u>All sorts of things</u> might happen.'' ::* '''<u>Hyos</u> yokxa at.'''....''<u>Nothing</u> surprised me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyot</u> ta hot ako.'''....''<u>Nobody</u> knew who would win.'' ::* '''<u>Hoayti</u> fu pier yefe.'''....''<u>Those females</u> who would like to leave may.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> yefe eker hia ifek.'''....''<u>Anyone</u> can play this game.'' ::* '''<u>Huyenasi</u> voy afwo.'''....''<u>Such things</u> will not be permitted.'' ::* '''<u>Hua twob</u> voy taxe hia toyb.'''....''<u>That</u> man does not remember this woman.'' ::* '''<u>Hwuti</u> yanyexe fi.'''....''<u>Those guys</u> work well together.'' ::* '''<u>Huuyti</u> hyaj yubixe tepzex.'''....''<u>Such females</u> always attract attention.'' ::* '''At jay teataye <u>hiyenasi</u>.'''....''I've seen <u>such things</u> before.'' ::* '''<u>Huyenwat</u> voy vabiwu.'''....''<u>A guy like that</u> would not be accepted.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyenasi</u> weti iyfe xer je ha maj.'''....''<u>What kinds of things</u> do you guys like to do during the day?'' === Numerical Deictic Determiners === : Sometimes, a deictic determiner specifies numerical information. This chart shows those forms: :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Number-incorporating Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! Adjective !! Inanimate Pronoun !! Animate Pronoun !! Pronominal Determiner !! Possessive Pronoun |- | '''hawa'''<sup>1</sup><br> ''the only'' || '''hawas'''<br>''the only thing''<br>'''hawasi'''<br>''the only things'' || '''hawat'''<br>''the only one (person)''<br>'''hawati'''<br>''the only ones''|| '''hawata'''<br>''the only person&apos;s'' || '''hawatas'''<br>''the only one&apos;s''<br>'''hawatasi'''<br>''the only one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyawa'''*<br> ''each'' || '''hyawas'''<br>''each one'' || '''hyawat'''<br>''each person''|| '''hyawata'''<br>''each person&apos;s'' || '''hyawatas'''<br>''each one&apos;s''<br>'''hyawatasi'''<br>''each one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyaewa'''<br>''both'' || '''hyaewasi'''<br>''both (<small>things</small>)'' || '''hyaewati'''<br>''both (<small>people</small>)''|| '''bi hyaewati'''<br>''both person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyaewati'''<br>''both person&apos;s''<br>'''hasi bi hyaewati'''<br>''both persone&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyaiwa'''<br>''all three'' || '''hyaiwasi'''<br>''all three (<small>things</small>)'' || '''hyaiwati'''<br>''all three (<small>people</small>)''|| '''hyaiwata'''<br>''all three person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyaiwati'''<br>''all three person&apos;s''<br>'''hasi bi hyaiwati'''<br>''all three person&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''ohyawa'''<br>''not every'' || '''ohyawas'''<br>''not everything'' || '''ohyawat'''<br>''not everyone''|| '''ohyawata'''<br>''not every person&apos;s'' || '''ohyawatas'''<br>''not everyone&apos;s''<br>'''ohyawatasi'''<br>''not everyone&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyoawa'''<br>''not a single'' || '''hyoawas'''<br>''not a single thing'' || '''hyoawat'''<br>''not a single person''|| '''hyowata'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s'' || '''hyowatas'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s''<br>'''hyowatasi'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyeawa'''<br>''either'' || '''hyeawas'''<br>''either one'' || '''hyeawat'''<br>''either one (<small>person</small>)''|| '''hyeawata'''<br>''either one&apos;s'' || '''hyeawatas'''<br>''either one&apos;s''<br>'''hyeawatasi'''<br>''either one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyeewa'''<br>''any two'' || '''hyeewasi'''<br>''any two things'' || '''hyeewati'''<br>''any two people''|| '''bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two persons&apos;''<br>'''hasi bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two persons&apos; (things)'' |- | '''hyeowa'''<br>''neither'' || '''hyeowas'''<br>''neither one'' || '''hyeowat'''<br>''neither person''|| '''hyeawata'''<br>''neither person&apos;s'' || '''hyeowatas'''<br>''neither one&apos;s''<br>'''hyeowatasi'''<br>''neither one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyuawa'''<br>''another'' || '''hyuawas'''<br>''another one'' || '''hyuawat'''<br>''another''|| '''hyuawata'''<br>''another&apos;s'' || '''hyuawatas'''<br>''another&apos;s''<br>'''hyuawatasi'''<br>''another&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyuowa'''<br>''no other'' || '''hyuowas'''<br>''nothing else'' || '''hyuowat'''<br>''nobody else''|| '''hyuowata'''<br>''no other&apos;s'' || '''hyuowatas'''<br>''no other&apos;s''<br>'''hyuowatasi'''<br>''no other&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''gawa'''<sup>2</sup><br>''another'' || '''gawas'''<br>''another one'' || '''gawat'''<br>''another (person)''|| '''gawata'''<br>''another&apos;s'' || '''gawatas'''<br>''another&apos;s''<br>'''gawatasi'''<br>''another&apos;s (things)'' |} <small> :: Note 1) '''Hawa''' and '''hyawa''' are short for '''haawa''' and '''hyaawa''', respectively. :: Note 2) '''Gawa''' is short for '''ga awa''', ''yet one''. </small> ==== Notes on Numerical Deictic Determiners ==== : Examples using the above number-incorporating deictic determiners: ::* '''<u>Ohyawat</u> se iva bay eta vaod.'''....''<u>Not everyone</u> is happy with your decision.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaewasi</u> yafwe uxler yata efoni.'''....''<u>Both (things)</u> can serve our needs.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeawa</u> tim ivlaxo at.'''....''<u>Either</u> room will satisfy me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowas</u> oivlaxo at.'''....''<u>Neither one</u> will dissatisfy me.'' : Note: ::* '''hyua''' means ''another (an alternative)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hyua</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>another (a different)</u> drink.'' ::* '''hyuawa''' means ''another (an additional)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hyuawa</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>another (an additional)</u> drink.'' ::* '''hahyua''' means ''the other (the alternative)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hahyua</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>the other</u> drink.'' ::* '''hohyua'''....''what other (relative)''. Ex. '''Bexlu hohyua suni at lobexa av et.'''....''Keep what other things I left for you.'' ::* '''hehyua'''....''some other'' ::* '''duhohyua'''....''what other, which other'' ::* '''hihyua'''....''this other'' ::* '''huhyua'''....''that other'' ::* '''hyahyua'''....''all other, any other, each other'' ::* '''hyehyua'''....''any other, whatever other'' ::* '''hyohyua'''....''no other'' : Similarly, '''hya''' means ''every, all'', while '''hyawa''' means ''each'', and '''hyaha'''....''all the'', ex: ::* '''<u>Hya</u> dom ayse tebixea suni teaxer.'''....''<u>Every</u> city has interesting things to see.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> domi ayse tebixusi.'''....''<u>All</u> cities have things of interest.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaha</u> domi ayse tebixusi.'''....''<u>All the</u> cities have things of interest.'' ::* '''<u>Hyawa</u> dom ayse tebixun.'''....''<u>Each</u> city has something of interest.'' : Also, '''ha''' means ''the'', while '''hawa''' means ''the only'', eg.: ::* '''<u>Ha</u> twob hu at gwa ife se et.'''....''<u>The</u> man I most love is you.'' ::* '''<u>Hawa</u> toyb nazea ata tepzex se et.'''....''<u>The only</u> woman worth my attention is you.'' : By appending '''y''' to '''hawa''', we get the adverb '''haway'''....''only, solely'', eg; ::* '''<u>Haway</u> et nize ata tepzex.'''....''<u>Only</u> you deserve my attention.''. : The singular person pronouns in the above chart can be converted into pronominal determiners by adding the adjective suffix '''a''', eg.: ::* '''<u>Hyawata</u> tej se ge glatesa vyel hyutas.'''....''<u>Each one's</u> life is as important as another's.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoewata</u> dyun se vyama.'''....''<u>Neither person's</u> name is real.'' : However, the plural person pronouns in the above chart use the preposition '''bi''' (''of'') to form possessives, eg.: ::* '''Ha teji <u>bi hyaiwati</u> se kyebukuwa.'''....''The lives <u>of all three</u> are in danger.'' : The above singular pronominal determiners can, in turn, be converted into inanimate pronouns with the suffix '''-s'''. ::* '''<u>Hyawatas</u> se glatesa.'''....''<u>Each one's</u> is important.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoewatas</u> se vyama.'''....''<u>Neither's</u> is real.'' : The plural pronominal determiners can be nominalized with the use of '''bi''', eg: ::* '''<u>Hyaiwasi</u> <u>bi huti</u> se kyebukuwa.'''....''<u>All three</u> <u>of theirs'</u> are in danger.'' : Correlative Number-incorporating Deictic Determiners are handled as follows: ::* '''Hyeawa A ey B'''....''either A or B'' ::* '''Hyoewa A oy B'''....''neither A nor B'' ::* '''Hyaewa A ay B'''....''both A and B'' ::* '''Hawa A, voy B'''....''only A, not B'' ==== Different Ways of Expressing ''How'' ==== : The different, somewhat confusing, meanings of ''how'' are illustrated here: ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> wit xa hus?'''....''<u>How</u> did he do that?''.... (Equivalent to '''Be duhobyen...?'''....''In what way...?'') (ADVERB OF MANNER) ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et xeye?'''....''<u>How</u> are you doing?''.... (This is the normal way of saying ''How are you?'' or ''How do you do?'' (ADVERB OF MANNER) ::* '''<u>Duhoyena</u> sa ha dyezun?'''....'' <u>How</u> was the film?''.... (''How'' here is an ADJECTIVE OF KIND, and thus ends in '''-a'''.) ::* '''<u>Duhonog (= Duhogla)</u> aga it se?'''....''<u>How</u> big is he?''.... (ADVERB OF DEGREE) ::* '''<u>Huunog (= Huugla)</u> iyfla et se!'''....''<u>How</u> nice you are!''.... (ADVERB OF EMPHATIC DEGREE) : The conjunction ''as'' is expressed most often using relative pro-adverbs of manner: ::* '''Xu <u>hoyen</u> at de.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I say.'' = (in) the way that... ::* '''Xu <u>hyiyen</u>''' (~ '''geyen''') '''at xe.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I do. ( = (in) the same way that...)'' ::* '''Xu <u>hiiyen</u>:'''....''Do <u>as follows</u>. ( = (in) this hereby manner...)'' : However, the preposition/conjunction '''gel''' (''like, as'') can be substituted: ::* '''Xu <u>gel</u> at de.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I say.'' : Many of the determiner adverbs in the above chart can be used in relative clauses, eg: ::* '''At teato et <u>hoj</u> et puo him.'''....''I will see you <u>when</u> you get here.'' ::* '''It xa has <u>avhos van</u> tosa yefa.'''....''He did it <u>because (for the reason that)</u> he felt compelled.'' ::* '''<u>Hyem</u> et po, et so ga iva.'''....''<u>Wherever</u> you go, you'll be happier.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> te ha did, yabu eta tuyab.'''....''<u>Whoever</u> knows the answer, raise your hand.'' ::* '''At te <u>hoyen</u> et xa is.'''....''I know <u>how</u> you did it.'' : See more about this in the section on [[Mirad_Grammar/Syntax#Relative_Clauses|relative clauses under Syntax]]. === Pronominal Deictic Determiners === : Some words in Mirad incorporate deictic prefixes with pronouns and pronominal adjectives, as shown in the following chart: {{small/top}} :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size;smaller;" |+ Pronominal Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! colspan=3 | Pronoun |- ! 1st Person Plural !! 2nd Person Plural !! 3rd Person Plural |- | '''duhoyat'''<br>''which of us'' || '''duhoyet'''<br>''which of you'' || '''duhoyit'''<br>''which of them'' |- | '''heyat'''<br>''some of us'' || '''heyet'''<br>''some of you'' || '''heyit'''<br>''which of them'' |- | '''hyayat'''<br>''each of us'' || '''hyayet'''<br>''each of you'' || '''hyayit'''<br>''each of them'' |- | '''hyeyat'''<br>''any of us'' || '''hyeyet'''<br>''any of you'' || '''hyeyit'''<br>''any of them'' |- | '''hyoyat'''<br>''none of us'' || '''hyoyet'''<br>''none of you'' || '''hyoyit'''<br>''none of them'' |- ! colspan=3 | Pronominal Adjective |- ! 1st Person (Plural) !! 2nd Person (Plural) !! 3rd Person (Plural) |- | '''duhoyata'''<br>''which of our'' || '''duhoyet'''<br>''which of your'' || '''duhoyita'''<br>''which of their'' |- | '''heyata'''<br>''some of our'' || '''heyeta'''<br>''some of your'' || '''heyita'''<br>''which of their'' |- | '''hyayata'''<br>''each of our'' || '''hyayeta'''<br>''each of your'' || '''hyayita'''<br>''each of their'' |- | '''hyeyata'''<br>''any of our'' || '''hyeyeta'''<br>''any of your'' || '''hyeyita'''<br>''any of their'' |- ! colspan=3 | Singular/(Plural) Possessive Pronoun |- ! 1st Person (Plural) !! 2nd Person (Plural) !! 3rd Person (Plural) |- | '''duhoyatas(i)'''<br>''which of ours'' || '''duhoyetas(i)'''<br>''which of yours'' || '''duhoyitas(i)'''<br>''which of theirs'' |- | '''heyatas(i)'''<br>''some of ours'' || '''heyetas(i)'''<br>''some of yours'' || '''heyitas(i)'''<br>''which of theirs'' |- | '''hyayatas(i)'''<br>''each of ours'' || '''hyayetas(i)'''<br>''each of yours'' || '''hyayitas(i)'''<br>''each of theirs'' |- | '''hyeyatas(i)'''<br>''any of ours'' || '''hyeyetas(i)'''<br>''any of yours'' || '''hyeyitas(i)'''<br>''any of theirs'' |- | '''hyoyatas(i)'''<br>''none of ours'' || '''hyoyetas(i)'''<br>''none of yours'' || '''hyoyitas(i)'''<br>''none of theirs'' |} {{small/end}} : The above possessive pronouns refer to things. If you replace the final '''-s''' or '''-si''', to '''-t''' or '''-ti''', then they become animate and refer to people, eg.: ::* '''Ese ewa tudi him. Duhoyitas se his?'''....''There are two children here. Which one of theirs is this?'' : All of the forms in the above chart can also be expressed as separate words, eg.: ::* '''Duhoyet?'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Duhoat bi yet?'''....''Which one of you?'' ::* '''Hyayat'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaglati bi yet'''....''All of us.'' ::* '''Hyoyatasi'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyogla yatasi'''....''All of ours (things)'' Note: ::* '''Awayat'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Awat bi yat'''....''one of us'' ::* '''Hyaewayet'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaewat bi yet'''....''both of you'' ::* '''Hyaiwayit'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaiwat bi yit'''....''all three of them'' === Quantitative Deictic Determiners === : The deictic prefixes can be combined with '''gla''' to form quantitative expressions acting as adverbial or adjectival determiners, and substantives (pronouns referring to things or people): {{small/top}} :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size;smaller;" |+ Quantitative Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! !! Adverbial / Adjectival<br>Determiner !! Inanimate Singular<br>Pronoun !! Inanimate Plural <br>Pronoun !! Animate Plural<br>Pronoun |- !row=1|Interrogative | '''duhogla?'''<br>''how?/how much?/how many?'' || '''duhoglas?'''<br>''how much?'' || '''duhoglasi?'''<br>''how many'' || '''duhoglati?'''<br>''how many (people)?'' |- !row=1|Relative | '''hogla'''<br>''as many/much'' || '''hoglas'''<br>''how much'' || '''duhoglasi'''<br>''how many'' || '''duhoglati'''<br>''how many (as)'' |- !row=1|Definite | '''hagla'''<br>''how/as much/as many'' || '''haglas'''<br>''as much'' || '''haglasi'''<br>''as many'' || '''haglati'''<br>''as many (people)'' |- !row=1|Indefinite | '''hegla'''<br>''somewhat/some/some'' || '''heglas'''<br>''some'' || '''heglasi'''<br>''some'' || '''heglati'''<br>''some (people)'' |- !row=1|Proximal | '''higla'''<br>''this/this much/this many'' || '''higlas'''<br>''this much'' || '''higlasi'''<br>''this many'' || '''higlati'''<br>''this many (people)'' |- !row=1|Distal | '''hugla'''<br>''that/that much/that many'' || '''huglas'''<br>''that much'' || '''huglasi'''<br>''that many'' || '''huglati'''<br>''that many (people)'' |- !row=1|Intensive | '''huugla'''<br>''so very, so much, so many'' || '''huuglas'''<br>''so much'' || '''huuglasi'''<br>''so many'' || '''huuglati'''<br>''so many (people)'' |- !row=1|Negative | '''hyogla'''<br>''none, not very'' || '''hyoglas'''<br>''none of it'' || '''hyoglasi'''<br>''none of them '' || '''hyoglati'''<br>''none'' |- !row=1|Distributive | '''hyagla'''<br>''totally/all/all'' || '''hyaglas'''<br>''all of it'' || '''hyaglasi'''<br>''all of them'' || '''hyaglati'''<br>''all'' |- !row=1|Indeterminate | '''hyegla'''<br>''however/any/any'' || '''hyeglas'''<br>''any of it'' || '''hyeglasi'''<br>''any of them'' || '''hyeglati'''<br>''any number of them'' |- !row=1|Identical | '''hyigla'''<br>''as/as much/as many, equally'' || '''hyiglas'''<br>''the same amount'' || '''hyiglasi'''<br>''the same number'' || '''hyiglati'''<br>''as many (people)'' |- !row=1|Non-identical | '''hyugla'''<br>''not as much/not as much/not as many'' || '''hyuglas'''<br>''a different amount'' || '''hyuglasi'''<br>''a different number of things'' || '''hyuglati'''<br>''a different number of people'' |} {{Small/end}} : Here are some examples showing how these quantitative determiners are used: ::* '''Et deuze <u>huugla</u> fi.'''....''You sing <u>so</u> well.'' ::* '''At se <u>hegla</u> booka.'''....''I am <u>somewhat</u> tired.'' ::* '''<u>Duhogla</u> pati et teata hijub?'''....''<u>How many</u> birds did you see today?'' ::* '''At teata vyavay <u>hugla</u> tami.'''....''I saw exactly <u>that many</u> houses.'' ::* '''Iyt fe <u>hyiglas</u> vyel et.'''....''She wants <u>the same amount</u> as you.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoglati</u> yantexe yet?'''....''<u>How many (people)</u> agree with you?'' ::* '''<u>Hyoglati</u> yantexe.'''....''<u>None</u> agree.'' ::* '''Yit fu <u>heglasi</u>.'''....''They would like <u>some (of them)</u>.'' ::* '''Et yafe bier <u>hyeglasi</u> et fe.'''....''You can take <u>however many</u> you want.'' ::* '''Besu bay at <u>hogla</u> job et fe.'''....''Stay <u>as</u> long with me as you want.'' ::* '''At se <u>huugla</u> booka.'''....''I am <u>so</u> tired.'' : NOTE: The following determiners are synonymous and interchangeable: ::* '''hegla''' = '''gle''' = '''henog''' (''somewhat, to some degree'') ::* '''hyigla''' = '''ge''' = '''hyinog''' (''as, equally, to the same degree'') : The determiner ''huugla'' can be used as an exclamatory adverb, eg.: ::* '''<u>Huugla</u> et agsaye!'''....''<u>How</u> you have grown!'' ::* '''Hua twob jagsaye <u>huugla</u>!'''....''That man has aged <u>so much</u>!'' ::* '''Hia jotul se <u>huugla</u> fiteluza!'''....''This dessert is <u>sooo</u> delicious!'' == Pronominal Determiners == : Pronominal Determiners are what are more often called '''''possessive adjectives''''' such as ''my'' or ''your'' and are discussed in a subsection of [[Mirad Grammar/Pronouns#Pronominal Determiners|Pronouns]]. == Quantitative Determiners == : '''''Quantitative determiners''''' act in one of several ways, they: ::* specify mass, uncountable, singular nouns for relative AMOUNT, eg. ''much happiness, less work'' ::* specify countable nouns for relative NUMBER, eg. ''one apple, two birds, many places'' ::* specify adverbs, adjectives, and verbs for relative DEGREE, eg. ''how poorly, very good, eat too much''. : From these, pronominalized quantitative determiners for PERSONS and THINGS can be derived. ::* Inanimate singular pronouns are formed by adding '''s''' for AN AMOUNT OF A THING ::* Inanimate plural pronouns are formed by adding '''si''' for A NUMBER OF THINGS ::* Animate plural pronouns are formed by adding '''ti''' for A NUMBER OF PERSONS. : The following table presents most of these word forms (Note that the determiners are in a plus (+), equal (=), or minus (-) row.): {| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; margin-left:1.6em; font-size:smaller;" |+ Quantitative Determiners |- !colspan=2|Adverb / Adjective !! Singular Pronoun !!colspan=2| Plural Pronoun |- !colspan=2|Degree/Amount/Number !! Amount !! Number of Things !! Number of People |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''ga'''....''more'' || '''gas'''....''more (stuff)'' || '''gasi'''....''many (things)'' || '''gati'''....''many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''ge'''....''as, as much, as many'' || '''ges'''....''as much (stuff)'' || '''gesi'''....''as many (things)'' || '''geti'''....''as many people'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''go'''....''less, fewer'' || '''gos'''....''less (stuff)'' || '''gosi'''....''fewer (things)'' || '''goti'''....''fewer (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gla'''....''very, much, many''<br>'''glay'''....''so, so much, so many''<br>'''glaa'''....''several'' || '''glas'''....''much (stuff)''<br>'''glays'''....''so much stuff'') || '''glasi'''....''many (things)''<br>'''glaysi'''....''so many (things)''<br>'''glaasi'''....''several things''|| '''glati'''....''many (people)''<br>'''glayti'''....''so many (people)''<br>'''glaati'''....''several people'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gle'''....''rather, quite a lot, quite a few'' || '''gles'''....''quite a lot (of stuff)'' || '''glesi'''....''quite a lot (of things)'' || '''gleti'''....''quite a few (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''glo'''....''slightly, a little, few'' || '''glos'''....''a little bit'' || '''glosi'''....''a few (things)'' || '''gloti'''....''few (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gra'''....''too, too much, too many'' || '''gras'''....''too much (stuff)'' || '''grasi'''....''too many (things)'' || '''grati'''....''too many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gre'''....''enough'' || '''gres'''....''enough (stuff)'' || '''gresi'''....''enough (things)'' || '''greti'''....''enough (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''gro'''....''insufficiently, too little, too few'' || '''gros'''....''too little'' || '''grosi'''....''too few'' || '''groti'''....''too few (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gwa'''....''most'' || '''gwas'''....''the most (stuff)'' || '''gwasi'''....''the most (things)'' || '''gwati'''....''most people'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gwe'''....''just so (much/many)'' || '''gwes'''....''just so much'' || '''gwesi'''....''just so many'' || '''gweti'''....''just so many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''gwo'''....''least'' || '''gwos'''....''the least (stuff)'' || '''gwosi'''....''the least (number of)'' || '''gwoti'''....''the least number (of people)'' |} : Examples Using Graded Quantitative Determiners :: Adverbs of degree modifying an adjective: :::* '''At se <u>gla</u> iva.'''....''I am <u>very</u> happy.'' :::* '''Et sa <u>gra</u> uga.'''....''You were <u>too</u> slow.'' :: Adverbs of Degree modifying another adverb: :::* '''Twobi dale <u>ge</u> igay vyel toybi.'''....''Men talk <u>as</u> fast as women.'' :::* '''Yat yexe <u>ga igay</u> vyel yet.'''....''We work faster (= <u>more quickly</u>) than you.'' :: Adjectives quantifying a singular mass noun: :::* '''<u>Ga</u> nas efwo.'''....''<u>More</u> money will be needed.'' :::* '''<u>Gra</u> nas noxwa.'''....''<u>Too much</u> money was spent.'' :: Adjectives quantifying a plural countable noun (= things or people): :::* '''At ayse <u>gro</u> sari.'''....''I've got <u>too few</u> tools.'' :::* '''<u>Gla</u> tami osexwa.'''....''<u>Many</u> houses were destroyed.'' :::* '''Yat efe <u>gla ga</u> valkdibuti.'''....''We need <u>many more</u> policemen.'' :: Pronouns referring to a mass amount of something (= stuff): :::* '''<u>Gas</u> ilokeye.'''....''<u>More (stuff)</u> is leaking.'' :::* '''Et dileye <u>gras</u>.'''....''You are asking for <u>too much (stuff)</u>.'' :::* '''Yat kexo <u>gwas</u>.'''....''We will seek <u>as much (stuff) as possible</u>.'' :::* '''At iba <u>gwes</u>.'''....''I received <u>just the right amount.</u>'' :: Pronouns referring to a countable number of things: :::* '''Hisi se fia oy yat fe <u>gasi</u>.'''....''These (items) are good but we want <u>more (items)</u>.'' :::* '''At teate drilari oy <u>grosi</u>.'''....''I see pens, but <u>too few</u>.'' :: Pronouns referring to a countable number of people: :::* '''<u>Grati</u> xaye vyoki be hia yexem.'''....''<u>Too many (people)</u> have made mistakes at this work site.'' :::* '''<u>Glati</u> dyunwe oy <u>gloti</u> kebiwe.'''....''<u>Many</u> are called but <u>few</u> are chosen.'' == Numerical Determiners == : This category of determiners, which includes cardinal, ordinal and other number words like ''two'', ''a tenth'', and ''first'', is such a vast topic that it is treated in its own chapter [[Mirad_Grammar/Numbers]] <noinclude>{{Chapter navigation with TOC|Adverbs|Numbers}}</noinclude> pkqebglbjpoinj7lcl0o2v79vli8t0e 4520844 4520843 2025-07-01T19:39:12Z Tyoyafud 6233 /* Different Ways of Expressing How */ 4520844 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>{{status|100%}}</noinclude> : Determiners are words that specify or point out the context of nouns and other parts of speech. The English determiner ''this'', for example, specifies a noun for its proximity to the current context. In English, demonstrative pronouns/adjectives/adverbs, possessive pronouns/adjectives, quantifiers like ''more'' and ''very'', and numeric expressions like ''both'' fall under this category. == Types of Determiners == : Determiners in Mirad fall into the following categories: ::{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Types of Determiners |- ! Type !! Also Known As !! English Examples |- !row=1| Deictic | Demonstrative Pronouns/Adjectives/Adverbs || ''the'', ''this'', ''some'', ''every'', ''which?'', ''when'' |- !row=1| Pronominal | Possessive Pronouns/Adjectives | ''my'', ''anybody&apos;s'', ''one&apos;s own'' |- !row=1| Quantitative | Quantifiers || ''more'', ''less'', ''very'' |- !row=1| Numerical | Numerals/Fractions/Ordinals/Dates, etc. || ''one'', ''half'', ''first'' |} : Furthermore, as for part of speech, determiners can be adjectives, pronouns, or adverbs. As adjectives, determiners can itemize or classify. As pronouns, they can refer to one or more persons (male or female) or things. As adverbs, they can specify circumstance, i.e. time, place, degree, kind, age, frequency, and so forth. == Deictic Determiners == : '''''Deictic determiners''''' are words which point out or ''specify'' other words as to their context, including what grammarians often call '''''demonstratives'''''. All deictic determiners in Mirad begin with the letter '''h'''. The letters following the '''h''' indicate the grammatical and semantic category. : Deictic determiners include the following traditional grammatical categories: <div style="background: lightyellow"> ::* '''''Demonstrative adjectives ''''' like ''this'', ''that'', ''those'', ''that one'' ::* '''''The definite article''''' ''the ''&nbsp;&nbsp; (which is really a '''''demonstrative adjective''''' like those above.) ::* '''''Demonstrative pronouns''''' like ''this'', ''that'', ''those'', ''that one'' ::* '''''Interrogative and relative pronouns''''' like ''who, which, that'' ::* '''''Indefinite adjectives''''' like ''any'', ''some'', ''all'', ''something'', ''such'', etc. ::* '''''Indefinite pronouns''''' like ''any'', ''some'', ''all'', ''something'', ''such'', etc. ::* '''''Pronouns, adjectives, and adverbs of quantity''''' like ''so much'', ''that many'', ''how many?'', ''very'', etc. ::* '''''Adverbs of circumstance:''''' :::* '''''time''''' like ''when'', ''now'', ''ever'' :::* '''''place''''' like ''there'', ''here'', ''somewhere'' :::* '''''manner''''' like ''how'', ''thus'', ''somehow'' :::* '''''kind''''' like ''so'', age ''this year old'' :::* '''''direction''''' like ''that way'', ''any which way'' :::* '''''reason''''' ''why?'', ''for that reason'', ''for no reason'' :::* '''''degree''''' ''this (well)'', ''so (good)'', ''how (bad)'' :::* '''''frequency''''' like ''how often'', ''so often'', ''never'' :::* '''''age''''' like ''this old'', ''how old?'', ''of any age'' </div> === Deictic Prefixes === [[File:Deixis (DE).png|thumb|none]] : There is a whole set of '''''correlative deictic prefixes''''', which are joined to circumstantial stub category suffixes to derive pronoun, adjective, and adverb determiners. In some grammars, these words are called ''wh-question words and their pointed answers''. For example, QUESTION: <u>Who</u> is your wife? ANSWER: <u>This</u> is my wife. (or) QUESTION: <u>Where</u> is your house? ANSWER: My house is <u>here</u>. These word forms are called correlative because they relate to one another in way that can be mapped to a table. : Here are the Mirad deictic classification prefixes: :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Deictic Prefixes |- ! Classification !! Deictic Prefix |- ! scope="row" | Interrogative | '''duho-...?'''....''what?, which?'' |- ! scope="row" | Relative | '''ho-'''....''which, that'' |- ! scope="row" | Exclamatory | '''hoo-'''....''how...!'' |- ! scope="row" | Definite | '''ha-'''....''the'' |- ! scope="row: | Indefinite | '''he-'''....''some, a certain'' |- ! scope="row" | Proximal | '''hi-'''....''this, these'' |- ! scope="row" | Immediate | '''hii-'''....''the following'' |- ! scope="row" | Distal | '''hu-'''....''that, those'' |- ! scope="row" | Intensive | '''huu-'''....''such, so, what a...!'' |- ! scope="row" | Distributive | '''hya-'''....''every, all, each'' |- ! scope="row" | Indeterminate | '''hye-'''....''any, whatever'' |- ! scope="row" | Negative | '''hyo-'''....''no, not any'' |- ! scope="row | Identical | '''hyi-'''....''the same, the very'' |- ! scope="row" | Non-identical | '''hyu-'''....''the other, another, else'' |} : Note: The Identical ('''hyi-''') and Non-identical prefixes ('''hyu-''') can optionally be substituted with '''ge-''' (''same'') and '''oge-''' (different), respectively. === Circumstantial Category Suffixes === : The table below shows word stub suffixes that indicate the circumstantial category of deictic expressions. They are called stubs, because they are reduced word forms. The combination of deictic prefixes and circumstantial stub suffixes produce a matrix of deictic '''''correlatives''''', seen later in this chapter. Use of the stub instead of the long form is a matter of optional economy. A few categories do not have stubs. :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Category Stubs |- ! Category !! Stub Suffix !! Long Form !! Short Question Form || Long Question Form |- ! row=1| Person | '''-t''' || '''<u>t</u>ob'''....''person'' || '''duhot?'''....''who?''|| '''duhotob?''' |- ! row=1| Thing | '''-s''' ||'''<u>s</u>un'''....''thing'' || '''duhos?'''....''what?''|| '''duhosun?''' |- ! row=1| Place | '''-m''' ||'''ne<u>m</u>'''....''place'' || '''duhom?'''....''where?''|| '''duhonem?''' |- ! row=1| Time | '''-j''' ||'''<u>j</u>ob'''....''time'' || '''duhoj?'''....''when?''|| '''duhojob?''' |- ! row=1| Manner | '''-yen''' ||'''b<u>yen</u>'''....''manner'' || '''duhoyen?'''....''how?''||'''duhobyen?''' |- ! row=1| Kind | '''-yena''' ||'''sauna</u>'''....''kind of'' || '''duhoyena?'''....''what kind of?''||'''duhosauna?''' |- ! row=1| Degree | '''-gla''' ||'''nog'''....''degree'' || '''duhogla (fi)?'''....''how (well)?''||'''duhonog?''' |- ! row=1| Number | '''-gla''' ||'''sag'''....''number'' || '''duhogla (pati)?'''....''how many (birds)?''||'''duhosag?''' |- ! row=1| Mass Quantity | '''-gla''' ||'''glan'''....''amount'' || '''duhogla (mil)?'''....''how much (water)?''||'''duhoglan?''' |- ! row=1| Frequency | ||'''xag'''....''frequency''|| '''duhoxag?'''....''how often?''|| -- |- ! row=1| Reason | '''-avhos''' || '''av hosun'''....''reason'' || '''duavhos?'''....''why?''|| '''duavhosun?''' |- ! row=1| Age | ||'''jaga'''....''of age'' || '''duhojaga?'''....''how old?''|| -- |} : There can be other circumstantial categories other than those listed above, such as "direction", "order", etc. eg. '''Duhomep wit pa?'''....''Which way did he go?''. === Charts of Correlative Deictic Determiners === : Here is are three tables showing the matrix of correlative deictic determiners. Note that the determiners belong to three parts of speech, 1) adjectives, 2) pronouns, and 3) adverbs: :{| class="wikitable" font-size:smaller style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |- ! Part of Speech !! Ending |- | Adjective || '''-a''' |- | Pronoun || '''-t(i)''', '''-s(i)''' |- | Adverb || (no ending) |} ==== Deictic Determiner Adjectives ==== : All deictic determiner adjectives end in '''-a''' and are used to modify nouns. :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Adjectives |- valign=top ! !! Selective<br>-a!! Possessive<br>-ta !! Kind/Manner<br>-yena !! Quantity<br>-gla !! Age<br>-jaga |- ! Interrogative |'''duhoa?'''<br>''which?''||'''duhota?'''<br>''whose?''|| '''duhoyena?'''<br>''what kind of?''||'''duhogla?'''<br>''how much/many?'' ||'''duhojaga?'''<br>''how old?'' |- valign=top ! Relative |'''hoa'''<br>''which''||'''hota'''<br>''whose''|| '''hoyena'''<br>''what kind of''||'''hogla'''<br>''how much/many'' ||'''hojaga'''<br>''how old'' |- valign=top ! Exclamatory |'''hooa'''<br>''what a...!''|| || ||'''hoogla'''<br>''look how much/many...!'' ||'''hoojaga'''<br>''how old a...!'' |- valign=top ! Definite |'''ha'''<sup>1</sup><br>''the''||'''hatas'''<br>''the person’s''|| '''hayena'''<br>''of the kind''||'''hagla'''<br>''of the amount'' ||'''hajaga'''<br>''of the age'' |- valign=top ! Indefinite |'''hea'''<br>''some/a certain''||'''heta'''<br>''someone's''|| '''heyena'''<br>''some kind of''||'''hegla'''<br>''some'' ||'''hejaga'''<br>''somewhat old'' |- valign=top ! Proximal |'''hia'''<br>''this''||'''hita'''<br>''this person’s''|| '''hiyena'''<br>''this kind of''||'''higla'''<br>''this much'' ||'''hijaga'''<br>''this old'' |- valign=top ! Immdediate |'''hiia'''<br>''the following''||'''hiita'''<br>''the follow person’s''|| '''hiiyena'''<br>''the following kind of'' || '''hiigla'''<br>''to the following degree'' ||'''hiijaga'''<br>''of the following age'' |- valign=top ! Distal |'''hua'''<br>''that''||'''huta'''<br>''that person’s''|| '''huyena'''<br>''that kind of'' ||'''hugla'''<br>''that much/many'' ||'''hujaga'''<br>''of that age'' |- valign=top ! Intensive |'''huua'''<br>''such a''||'''huuta'''<br>''such a person’s''|| '''huuyena'''<br>''such kind of'' ||'''huugla'''<br>''so much/many'' ||'''huujaga'''<br>''of such an age'' |- valign=top ! Negative |'''hyoa'''<br>''no''||'''hyota'''<br>''nobody’s''|| '''hyoyena'''<br>''no kind of'' ||'''hyogla'''<br>''no amount/number of'' ||'''hyojaga'''<br>''of no age'' |- valign=top ! Distributive |'''hya'''<sup>1</sup><br>''every, all''||'''hyata'''<br>''everybody’s''|| '''hyayena'''<br>''every kind of'' ||'''hyagla'''<br>''all'' ||'''hyajaga'''<br>''of every age'' |- valign=top ! Indeterminate |'''hyea'''<br>''whichever/any''<sup>2</sup>||'''hyeta'''<br>''whosever''|| '''hyeyena'''<br>''whatever/any kind of'' ||'''hyegla'''<br>''however much/many'' ||'''hyejaga'''<br>''however old'' |- valign=top ! Identical |'''hyia'''<br>''the same''||'''hyita'''<br>''the same person’s''|| '''hyiyena'''<br>''the same kind of'' ||'''hyigla'''<br>''just as'' ||'''hyijaga'''<br>''just as old'' |- valign=top ! Non-identical |'''hyua'''<br>''the other''||'''hyuta'''<br>''someone else's''|| '''hyuyena'''<br>''another kind of'' ||'''hyugla'''<br>''not as much/many'' ||'''hyujaga'''<br>''of another age'' |} : There are other adjectival determiners such as '''duhonoga'''....''how/to what degree'', '''duhosauna'''....''what kind of'' that are not included in the above chart. :Note 1) The determiners '''ha''' (''the'') and '''hya''' (''every'') are shortened forms of '''haa''' and '''hyaa'''. Also, '''ha''' is commonly called a "definite article". ::* While '''hya''' means ''every'' or ''all'', the word '''hyawa''' is used for ''each''. ::* The possessive adjective forms in the above table ending in '''-ta''' such as '''hyeta'''....''whosever'' cannot be pluralized by the ending '''-tia'''. To say '''other people's''', use the expression '''bi hyuti''' (Lit. ''of others''). ::* The '''ho-''' words are relative, meaning that they can serve to form relative clauses like the following: :::* '''Ha toyb, <u>hota</u> twad se Bill,'''....''The woman, <u>whose</u> husband is Bill,'' :::* '''At voy te <u>hos</u> et tepfe.'''....''I don't know <u>what</u> you mean.'' :::* '''At teste <u>hogla</u> et fie iyt.'''....''I understand <u>how much</u> you love her.'' ::* The '''hoo-''' words are exclamatory and are used in expressions like the following: :::* '''<u>Hoogla</u> iva se at van et upa!'''....''<u>How</u> glad I am that you came!'' :::* '''<u>Hooa</u> jub his saye!'''....''<u>What a</u> day this has been!'' ('''Hooa''' is pronounced ''ho-O-a'' as three syllables.) :Note 2) The indeterminant determiners can also be translated with ''no matter what, no matter where, etc.'' ==== Deictic Determiner Pronouns ==== : All deictic determiner pronouns end either in '''-t''' for persons or '''-s''' for things. They can be singular or plural ('''-i'''). :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Pronouns |- valign=top ! !! Thing -s<br>Things -si !! Person -t<br>Persons -ti !! Kind of Thing -yenas<br>Kinds of Things -yenasi !! Amount -glas<br>Number of Things -glasi !! Number of People -glati |- valign=center ! Interrogative |'''duhos?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what?''<br>'''duhosi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what (things)?''|| '''duhot?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who?''<br>'''duhoti?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who (pl.)''|| '''duhoyenas?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what kind of thing?'' <br>'''duhoyenasi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;what kinds of things?|| '''duhoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how much?''<br>'''duhoglasi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many things?''|| '''duhoglati?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many people?'' |- valign=center ! Relative |'''hos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what''<br>'''hosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what''|| '''hot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who''<br>'''hoti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who''|| '''hoyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what kind of thing'' <br>'''hoyenasi'''|| '''hoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how much''<br>'''hoglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many''|| '''hoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many'' |- ! Exclamatory |'''hoos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a thing!''<br>'''hoosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what things!''|| '''hoot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a person!''<br>'''hooti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what people!''|| || '''hooglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what an amount!''<br>'''hooglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a number!''|| '''hoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a number of people!'' |- valign=center ! Definite |'''has'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''it''<br>'''hasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''they/them''|| '''hat'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''he/she/him/her''<br>'''hati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''they/them''|| '''hayenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the king of thing''<br>'''hayenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the kind of things''|| '''haglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the amount'' <br>'''haglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the number of things''|| '''haglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the number of people'' |- valign=center ! Indefinite |'''hes'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''something''<br>'''hesi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some things''|| '''het'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''someone''<br>'''heti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some''|| '''heyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some kind of thing'' <br>'''heyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some kinds of thing''|| '''heglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some''<br>'''heglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some things''|| '''heglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some people'' |- valign=center ! Proximal |'''his'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this''<br>'''hisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these''|| '''hit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this person''<br>'''hiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these people''|| '''hiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this kind of thing'' <br>'''hiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these kinds of things''|| '''higlas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this much''<br>'''higlasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this many''|| '''higlati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this many people'' |- valign=center ! Immediate |'''hiis'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following thing''<br>'''hiisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following things''|| '''hiit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following person''<br>'''hiiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following people''|| '''hiiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following kind of thing'' <br>'''hiiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following kinds of things''|| '''hiiglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following amount''<br>'''hiiglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this following number of things''|| '''hiiglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following number of people'' |- valign=center ! Distal |'''hus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that''<br>'''husi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those''|| '''hut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that person''<br>'''huti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those people''|| '''huyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that kind of thing'' <br>'''huyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those kinds of things''|| '''huglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that much''<br>'''huglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that many''|| '''huglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that many people'' |- valign=center ! Intensive |'''huus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a thing''<br>'''huusi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such things''|| '''huut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a person''<br>'''huuti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such people''|| '''huuyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a kind of thing'' <br>'''huuyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such kinds of things''|| '''huuglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so much''<br>'''huuglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so many''|| '''huuglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so many people'' |- valign=center ! Negative |'''hyos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''nothing''<br>'''hyosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none of them''|| '''hyot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''nobody''<br>'''hyoti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none of them''|| '''hyoyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''no kind of thing'' <br>'''hyoyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''no kinds of things''|| '''hyoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none''<br>'''hyoglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none''|| '''hyoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none'' |- valign=center ! Distributive |'''hyas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''everything''<br>'''hyasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyat'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''everybody''<br>'''hyati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyayenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''every kind of'' <br>'''hyayenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all kinds of things''|| '''hyaglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of it''<br>'''hyaglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyaglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them'' |- valign=center ! Indeterminate |'''hyes'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''anything''<br>'''hyesi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any''|| '''hyet'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''anybody''<br>'''hyeti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of them''|| '''hyeyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any kind of'' <br>'''hyeyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''whatever things''|| '''hyeglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of it''<br>'''hyeglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of them''|| '''hyeglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''whoever'' |- valign=center ! Identical |'''hyis'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same thing''<br>'''hyisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same things''|| '''hyit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same person''<br>'''hyiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same people''|| '''hyiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same kind of'' <br>'''hyiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same kinds of things''|| '''hyiglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as much''<br>'''hyiglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as many''|| '''hyiglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as many people'' |- valign=center ! Non-identical |'''hyus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''something else''<br>'''hyusi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other things''|| '''hyut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''someone else''<br>'''hyuti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other people''|| '''hyuyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another kind'' <br>'''hyuyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other kinds''|| '''hyuglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another amount''<br>'''hyuglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another number of things''|| '''hyuglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another number of people'' |} : Concerning the above chart, note the following: ::* The interrogative determiners all begin with '''duho-''', which means '''say which''', and are technically imperatives. '''Duhom?''', for example, means '''Tell (me) the place...'''. The '''o'''-stem forms without the '''du-''' are used as relative clause heads, eg. '''At po <u>hom</u> et po.'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''I will go <u>where</u> you go.'' ::* Interrogatives usually come at the beginning of a sentence as in English, eg. '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* Determiners come first before any other epithets of a noun, eg. '''<u>Hia</u> aga jaga tam...'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''<u>This</u> big old house...''. ::* Person and Thing determiners can be made selective by inserting '''a''' before the final '''t''' or '''s''', eg. '''Duhot?''' means ''Who?'', while '''Duhoat?''' means ''Which one (of several persons)?'' ==== Deictic Determiner Adverbs ==== : All deictic determiner adverbs refer to a circumstance. :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Adverbs |- valign=top ! Circumstance--> !! Place<br>-m !! Time<br>-j !! Manner<br>-yen!! Degree<br>-gla !! Frequency<br>-xag !! Reason<br>-sav |- valign=center ! Interrogative | '''duhom?'''<br>''where?'' || '''duhoj?'''<br>''when?'' || '''duhoyen?'''<br>''how?'' || '''duhogla?'''<br>''how (very)?'' || '''duhoxag?'''<br>''how often?''|| '''duavhos?'''<sup>1</sup><br>''why?'' |- valign=center ! Relative | '''hom'''<br>''where'' || '''hoj'''<br>''when'' || '''hoyen'''<br>''how'' || '''hogla'''<br>''how (very)'' || '''hoxag'''<br>''how often'' || '''avhos (van)<sup>2</sup>'''<br>''because'' |- valign=center ! Exclamatory | || || '''hooyen'''<br>''and how!, such a...'' || '''hoogla'''<br>''how very...!, so...''<sup>3</sup> || || |- valign=center ! Definite | '''ham'''<br>''the place'' || '''haj'''<br>''the time'' || '''hayen'''<br>''the manner'' || '''hagla'''<br>''just as'' || '''haxag'''<br>''as frequently''|| '''avhas'''<br>''the reason'' |- valign=center ! Indefinite | '''hem'''<br>''somewhere'' || '''hej'''<br>''sometime'' || '''heyen'''<br>''somehow'' || '''hegla'''<br>''somewhat'' || '''hexag'''<br>''somewhat often''||'''avhes'''<br>''for some reason'' |- valign=center ! Proximal | '''him'''<br>''here'' || '''hij'''<br>''now'' || '''hiyen'''<br>''this way'' || '''higla'''<br>''this'' || '''hixag'''<br>''this often''||'''avhis'''<br>''for this reason'' |- valign=center ! Immediate | '''hiim'''<br>''the following place'' || '''hiij'''<br>''the following time'' || '''hiiyen'''<br>''the following way'' || '''hiigla'''<br>''to the following degree'' || '''hiixag'''<br>''at the following frequency''||'''avhiis'''<br>''for the following reason'' |- valign=center ! Distal | '''hum'''<br>''there'' || '''huj'''<br>''then'' || '''huyen'''<br>''that way'' || '''hugla'''<br>''to that degree'' || '''huxag'''<br>''that often''|| '''avhus'''<br>''therefore'' |- valign=center ! Intensive | '''huum'''<br>''such a place'' || '''huuj'''<br>''at such a time'' || '''huuyen'''<br>''in such a way'' || '''huugla'''<br>''so (very)'' || '''huuxag'''<br>''so often''|| '''avhuus'''<br>''for such a reason'' |- valign=center ! Negative | '''hyom'''<br>''nowhere'' || '''hyoj'''<br>''never'' || '''hyoyen'''<br>''in no way'' || '''hyogla'''<br>''not at all'' || '''hyoxag'''<br>''not once''|| '''avhyos'''<br>''for no reason'' |- valign=center ! Distributive | '''hyam'''<br>''everywhere'' || '''hyaj'''<br>''always'' || '''hyayen'''<br>''in every way'' || '''hyagla'''<br>''fully'' || '''hyaxag'''<br>''always''||'''avhyas'''<br>''for every reason'' |- valign=center ! Indeterminate | '''hyem'''<br>''anywhere'' || '''hyej'''<br>''whenever'' || '''hyeyen'''<br>''however'' || '''hyegla'''<br>''however'' || '''hyexag'''<br>''however often'' || '''avhyes'''<br>''for whatever reason'' |- valign=center ! Indentical | '''hyim'''<br>''at the same place'' || '''hyij'''<br>''at the same time'' || '''hyiyen'''<br>''in the same way'' || '''hyigla'''<br>''as'' || '''hyixag'''<br>''as often''|| '''avhyis'''<br>''for the same reason'' |- valign=center ! Non-identical | '''hyum'''<br>''somewhere else'' || '''hyuj'''<br>''some other time'' || '''hyuyen'''<br>''otherwise'' || '''hyugla'''<br>''not as'' || '''hyuxag'''<br>''not as often''||'''avhyus'''<br>''for some other reason'' |} :Note 1) '''Duavhos?''' translates literally to "Say for what?". :Note 2) The positive complimentizer '''van''' is optional. :Note 3) A clause following '''hoogla''' <ADJ>/<ADV> must be followed by '''van''', eg. '''Et eka <u>hoogla fi van</u> ha teexuti byasa ab yiti tyoyabi.'''....''You played <u>so well that</u> the audience stood on their feet.'' : Concerning the above chart, note the following: :* The interrogative determiners all begin with '''duho-''', which means '''say which''', and are technically imperatives. '''Duhom?''', for example, means '''Tell (me) the place...'''. The '''o'''-stem forms without the '''du-''' are used as relative clause heads, eg. '''At po <u>hom</u> et po.'''....''I will go <u>where</u> you go.'' :* Interrogatives usually come at the beginning of a sentence as in English, eg. '''<u>Duhom</u> se eta tam?'''....''<u>Where</u> is your house?'' :* Not included in the above chart is a related interrogative, which is a complementizer. ::* '''Duven...?'''.... (Question introducer) '''Is it true that...?, Say whether...''' :::* '''<u>Duven</u> et se tadxwa?'''....''Are you married? (= <u>Say whether</u> you are married.)'' :* The adverbs of degree in the above chart ('''duhogla?''', etc.) are interchangeable with adverbs ending in '''-nog'''....''degree'' ('''duhonog?'''....''to what degree?, how...?'', '''henog'''....''somewhat'') :* Other deictic determiner adverbs of circumstance exist and are not on the above chart: ::* '''duhomep?'''....''which way?'' :::* '''humep'''....''that way'' ::* '''duhobyun?'''....''to what end?'' :::* '''hyobyun'''....''for no purpose'' ::* '''duhoizon?'''....''in which direction?'' :::* ''''hyaizon'''....''in every direction'' ==== Examples of Deictic Determiner Usage ==== ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ('''Duhos''' is pronounced '''du-HOS''') ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> se iyta twad?'''....''<u>Who</u> is her husband?'' ::* '''<u>Duhowat</u> se iyta twad?'''....''<u>Which one of the guys</u> is her husband?'' (selective) ::* '''<u>Duhoti</u> fe eker?'''....''<u>Who (pl.)</u> want to play?'' ::* '''<u>Hyas</u> se fia.'''....''<u>Everything</u> is fine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyat</u> tre et.'''....''<u>Everyone</u> knows you.'' ::* '''<u>Hyot</u> tre at.'''....''<u>Nobody</u> knows me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyati</u> ekeye fi.'''....''<u>All of them</u> are playing well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoti</u> ekeye fi.'''....''<u>None of them</u> are playing well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> yafe eker.'''....''<u>Anyone</u> can play.'' ::* '''<u>Hyes</u> yafwe.'''....''<u>Anything</u> is possible.'' ::* '''At fe <u>hyuyenat</u> be ata ekutyan.'''....''I want <u>someone else</u> on my team.'' ::* '''<u>Huuyenati</u> fyuxe yata oj.'''....''<u>Such people</u> harm our future.'' ::* '''Et yefe tepier <u>hiisi</u>.'''....''You must bear in mind <u>the following things</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et xa hus.'''.....''<u>How</u> did you do that?'' (pronounced '''du-ho-YEN''') ::* '''<u>Duavhos</u> iyt pia <u>huugla</u> jwa?'''....''<u>Why</u> did she leave <u>so</u> early?'' ::* '''<u>Hwita</u> tam se ga aga.'''....''<u>This guy's</u> house is bigger.'' ::* '''At voy ayse ha dyuni <u>bi huyti</u>.'''....''I don't have <u>those women's</u> names.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoa</u> tam se etas?'''....''<u>Which</u> house is yours?'' ::* '''<u>Huua</u> tej et ayse!'''....''<u>What a</u> life you have!'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyena</u> dyezuni ifxe et?'''....''<u>What kind of</u> movies do you like?'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> tef okwa?'''....''<u>Whose</u> hat was lost?'' ::* '''<u>Hota</u> tef okwa bese otwas.'''....''<u>Whose</u> hat was lost remains a mystery.'' ::* '''<u>Ha</u> tob ta yata dyuni.'''....''<u>The</u> man knew our names.'' ::* '''<u>Hoyena</u> dini at ife, et ufe.'''....''<u>The kind of</u> stories I love, you hate.'' ::* '''<u>Hea</u> mepi gawdyunxwo.'''....''<u>Certain</u> streets will be renamed.'' ::* '''<u>Heyena</u> fukyes uxaye purilp nyaunx.'''....''<u>Some kind of</u> accident has caused a traffic jam.'' ::* '''<u>Heta</u> abtaf kaxwa be ha zatem.'''.....''<u>Someone's</u> coat was found in the foyer.'' ::* '''<u>Hia</u> dyes se ata gwafwas.'''....''<u>This</u> book is my favorite.'' ::* '''<u>Hiia</u> duni se ofwa.'''....''<u>The following</u> words are prohibited.'' ::* '''<u>Hiiyena</u> axlyen voy afwu.'''....''<u>The following sort of</u> behavior would not be allowed.'' ::* '''<u>Hiyena</u> axlyen voy vayafwo.'''....''<u>This type of</u> behavior will not be tolerated.'' ::* '''<u>Hita</u> tim so yolza.'''....''<u>This person's</u> room will be blue.'' ::* '''<u>Hua</u> mas efwe gawvozilbwer.'''....''<u>That</u> wall needs to be repainted.'' ::* '''<u>Huua</u> dini yufxe tudi.'''....''<u>Such</u> stories scare children.'' ::* '''<u>Huyena</u> duni voy yeyfwe yixwer za at.'''....''<u>Such</u> words should not be used in front of me.'' ::* '''<u>Hwuta</u> tam magseye.'''....''<u>That guy's</u> house is on fire.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoa</u> din se ga kyitesa.'''....''<u>No</u> story is more important.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoyena</u> tes tesiyafwe.'''....''<u>No such</u> meaning can be inferred.'' ::* '''<u>Hyota</u> jatexdras sa ga fia.'''....''<u>Nobody's</u> plan is better.'' ::* '''<u>Hyos</u> oboxe huyt.'''....''<u>Nothing</u> bothers that gal.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> mepi izpe Roma.'''....''<u>All</u> roads lead to Rome.'' ::* '''<u>Hya ha</u> mepi se ebwa.'''....''<u>All the</u> roads are blocked.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> twob yefe xer ita gon.'''....''<u>Every</u> man must do his part.'' ::* '''<u>Hyayena</u> telami ese be hia domep.'''....''<u>All manner of</u> restaurants exist on this street.'' ::* '''<u>Hyata</u> tej se uka bi yaobi.'''....''<u>Everyone's</u> life is full of ups and downs.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaewa</u> domi agsaye.'''....''<u>Both</u> cities have grown.'' ::* '''<u>Hyea</u> voz so fia.'''....''<u>Any</u> color will be fine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeyena</u> til se aysyafwa.'''....''<u>Any kind of</u> drink is available.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeta</u> ved se ge ifa vyel atas.'''....''<u>Anyone's</u> guess is as good as mine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyea</u> tim et fe et yafe ayser.'''....''<u>Whatever</u> room you want, you can have.'' ::* '''<u>Hyia</u>/(Ha gea) fukyesi kyese glaxag.'''....''<u>The same</u> accidents occur frequently.'' ::* '''<u>Hyiyena</u>/(Ha geyena) dyezuni teaxuwa zajub.'''....''<u>The same kind of</u> films were shown yesterday.'' ::* '''<u>Hyita</u>/(Ha geta) dyun yixwa gajod.'''....''<u>The same person's</u> name was used again.'' ::* '''<u>Hyua</u> dyezun sa ga ifuyea.'''....''<u>The other</u> movie was more entertaining.'' ::* '''<u>Hyuyena</u>/(Ogeyena) som teasu ga fia.'''....''<u>Another kind of</u> furniture would look better.'' ::* '''<u>Hyuta</u>/(ogeta) texyen se ge fyia.'''....''<u>Someone else's</u> opinion is equally valid.'' ::* '''Ha dyuni <u>bi hiyti</u> voy dodrawe.'''....''<u>These women's</u> names have not been made public.'' ::* '''Ha dyuni <u>bi hwiiti</u> voy dodrowe.'''....''<u>The following males'</u> names will not be publicized.'' ::* '''<u>Hijaga</u> tobweti voy afwo him.'''....''Boys <u>of this age</u> will not be allowed here.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> et tambese?'''....''<u>Where</u> do you live?'' ::* '''At tambese <u>hum</u>.'''....''I live <u>there</u>.'' ::* '''Et tambese <u>hom</u> ha mep uje.'''....''You live <u>where</u> the road ends.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> yet peye?'''....''<u>Where</u> are you people going?'' ::* '''Et yafe per <u>hyem</u> et fu.'''....''You can go <u>anywhere</u> you would like.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> et byise?'''....''<u>Where</u> are you from?'' (Lit: ''Where do you originate?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoj</u> et taja?'''....''<u>When</u> were you born?'' ::* '''At voy tajaya <u>huj</u>.'''....''I had not been born <u>then</u>.'' ::* '''Et yeyfe duder <u>hiiyen</u>.'''....''You should respond <u>in the following way</u>.'' ::* '''Ot voy yefe daler <u>huuyen</u>.'''....''One must not talk <u>in such a manner</u>.'' ::* '''Et pia <u>hesav</u>.'''....''He left <u>for some reason</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et iyfe hia vifil?'''....''<u>How</u> do like this wine?'' ::* '''Voy se fia axler <u>hiyen</u>.'''....''It is not good to act <u>this way</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duavhos</u> et tadia <u>huugla</u> jwa?'''....''<u>Why</u> did you marry <u>so</u> late?'' ::* '''Ha twob pia <u>avhyos</u>.'''....''The man left <u>for no reason</u>.'' ::* '''Hwat pia <u>avhos van</u> it efa per hem.'''....''The guy left <u>because</u> he needed to go somewhere.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeta</u> texyen so fia.'''....''<u>Anyone</u>'s opinion will be fine.'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> dyes se his?'''....''Whose book is this?'' ::* '''<u>Bi hoti</u> se hia dyesi?'''....''Whose are these books?'' ::* '''<u>Hyata</u> tili yebexe yom.'''....''<u>Everyone's</u> drinks contain ice.'' ::* '''Et se gaj <u>geyenat</u>( ~ <u>hyiyenat</u>).'''....''You are still <u>the same kind of person</u>.'' ::* '''At se <u>hoogla iva van</u> et upa!'''....''I am <u>so happy that</u> you came!'' ::* '''Yat tose <u>hyigla (van)</u> yet.'''....''We feel <u>(the same way) as</u> you (do).'' : Note, '''hyigla''' can be replaced with '''gel''': ::* '''Yet tose <u>gel</u> yet.'''....''We feel <u>as</u> you do.'' : The semantic reverser '''o-''' can be prefixed to some of the above deictic determiners: :: '''<u>Ohyat</u> tiste Platon.'''....''<u>Not everyone</u> understands Plato.'' :: '''<u>Ohut!</u>'''....''Not that person!'' :: '''At iyfe gwa apovili, oy <u>ohuas</u>!'''....''I like most beers, but <u>not that one</u>!'' : If the definite article or any other deictic determiner is omitted before a noun, then it has the effect of the English indefinite article ''a / an'' with a singular noun or ''some'' with a plural noun. For example: ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ha tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>a glass</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ha tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>(some) glasses</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>awa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>one glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha awa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the one glass</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>two glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the two glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>hyaewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>both glasses</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>owa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>no/zero glasses (=not a single glass)</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ea tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>another/a second glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ea tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the second glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ea tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>second glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ea tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the second glasses</u> of wine.'' : If an indefinite article sense is needed for clarity, the words '''awa''' (''one'') or '''hea''' (''some, a certain'') can be used, eg.: ::* '''At igteata <u>awa</u> tob yiztyoper.'''....''I glimpsed <u>a</u> man walk by.'' ::* '''Wit zoyupo <u>hea</u> jub.'''....''He will come back <u>a / a certain / some</u> day.'' ==== Selective vs. Non-Selective Forms ==== : The deictic interrogative determiner pronoun '''duhot?''' means ''who(m)'' and contrasts with its '''''selective''''' counterpart '''duhoat?''', which means ''which one?''. All the selective determiners refer to one or more things or persons from a selectable pool of things or persons. : The following sentences illustrate the use of the above determiner pronouns: ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> aka zajuba ek?'''....''<u>Who</u> won yesterday's game?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoat</u> bi ha akuti sa ha gwa fiat?'''....''<u>Which one</u> of the winners was the best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> tam se hus?'''....''<u>Whose</u> house is that?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotas</u> se hus?'''....''<u>Whose</u> is that?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotia</u> deuzi et gaife?'''....''<u>Whose</u> songs do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotias</u> et gaife?'''....''<u>Whose</u> do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* '''<u>Duhosi</u> se eta gaifuni?'''....''<u>What</u> are your preferences?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoa</u> deuzi se eta gwa fiasi?'''....''<u>Which</u> songs are your best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoasi</u> se eta gwa fiasi?'''....''<u>Which ones</u> are your best?'' ::* '''Bi hia deuzuti, <u>hoat</u> et gaife?'''....''Of these vocalists, <u>which one</u> do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Hiiti</u> yaneko hijub.'''....''<u>The following people</u> will compete today.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoati</u> se gwa fia?'''....''<u>Which ones</u> are best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoti</u> et teexe gwa jodi?'''....''<u>Who (all)</u> do you listen to the most often?'' ::* '''<u>Hoat</u> at teexe gwaxag draye ejna deuz.'''....''<u>The one</u> I listen to the most has written a new song.'' ::* '''Ejna deuz? At voy teste <u>hoas</u> et tede.'''....''New song? I don't understand <u>which one</u> you mean.'' ::* '''<u>Hias</u>.'''....''<u>This one</u>.'' ::* '''Vo. <u>Huasi</u> se ga fia.'''....''No. <u>Those</u> are better.'' ::* '''<u>His</u> se jub av ivxelen.'''....''<u>This</u> is a day for celebration.'' ::* '''Va. <u>Hia</u> jub. At tese <u>hi</u>jub.'''....''Yes. <u>This</u> day. I mean <u>To-</u>day.'' ::* '''<u>Husi</u> sa <u>ha</u> jubi, ata dat!'''....''<u>Those</u> were <u>the</u> days, my friend!'' ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> aka ha igpek?'''....''<u>Who</u> won the race?'' ::* '''<u>Hyas</u> uja fi.'''....''<u>Everything</u> ended well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyasi</u> uje.'''....''<u>All things</u> come to an end.'' ::* '''<u>Hyayenasi</u> vey kyesu.'''....''<u>All sorts of things</u> might happen.'' ::* '''<u>Hyos</u> yokxa at.'''....''<u>Nothing</u> surprised me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyot</u> ta hot ako.'''....''<u>Nobody</u> knew who would win.'' ::* '''<u>Hoayti</u> fu pier yefe.'''....''<u>Those females</u> who would like to leave may.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> yefe eker hia ifek.'''....''<u>Anyone</u> can play this game.'' ::* '''<u>Huyenasi</u> voy afwo.'''....''<u>Such things</u> will not be permitted.'' ::* '''<u>Hua twob</u> voy taxe hia toyb.'''....''<u>That</u> man does not remember this woman.'' ::* '''<u>Hwuti</u> yanyexe fi.'''....''<u>Those guys</u> work well together.'' ::* '''<u>Huuyti</u> hyaj yubixe tepzex.'''....''<u>Such females</u> always attract attention.'' ::* '''At jay teataye <u>hiyenasi</u>.'''....''I've seen <u>such things</u> before.'' ::* '''<u>Huyenwat</u> voy vabiwu.'''....''<u>A guy like that</u> would not be accepted.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyenasi</u> weti iyfe xer je ha maj.'''....''<u>What kinds of things</u> do you guys like to do during the day?'' === Numerical Deictic Determiners === : Sometimes, a deictic determiner specifies numerical information. This chart shows those forms: :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Number-incorporating Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! Adjective !! Inanimate Pronoun !! Animate Pronoun !! Pronominal Determiner !! Possessive Pronoun |- | '''hawa'''<sup>1</sup><br> ''the only'' || '''hawas'''<br>''the only thing''<br>'''hawasi'''<br>''the only things'' || '''hawat'''<br>''the only one (person)''<br>'''hawati'''<br>''the only ones''|| '''hawata'''<br>''the only person&apos;s'' || '''hawatas'''<br>''the only one&apos;s''<br>'''hawatasi'''<br>''the only one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyawa'''*<br> ''each'' || '''hyawas'''<br>''each one'' || '''hyawat'''<br>''each person''|| '''hyawata'''<br>''each person&apos;s'' || '''hyawatas'''<br>''each one&apos;s''<br>'''hyawatasi'''<br>''each one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyaewa'''<br>''both'' || '''hyaewasi'''<br>''both (<small>things</small>)'' || '''hyaewati'''<br>''both (<small>people</small>)''|| '''bi hyaewati'''<br>''both person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyaewati'''<br>''both person&apos;s''<br>'''hasi bi hyaewati'''<br>''both persone&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyaiwa'''<br>''all three'' || '''hyaiwasi'''<br>''all three (<small>things</small>)'' || '''hyaiwati'''<br>''all three (<small>people</small>)''|| '''hyaiwata'''<br>''all three person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyaiwati'''<br>''all three person&apos;s''<br>'''hasi bi hyaiwati'''<br>''all three person&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''ohyawa'''<br>''not every'' || '''ohyawas'''<br>''not everything'' || '''ohyawat'''<br>''not everyone''|| '''ohyawata'''<br>''not every person&apos;s'' || '''ohyawatas'''<br>''not everyone&apos;s''<br>'''ohyawatasi'''<br>''not everyone&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyoawa'''<br>''not a single'' || '''hyoawas'''<br>''not a single thing'' || '''hyoawat'''<br>''not a single person''|| '''hyowata'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s'' || '''hyowatas'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s''<br>'''hyowatasi'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyeawa'''<br>''either'' || '''hyeawas'''<br>''either one'' || '''hyeawat'''<br>''either one (<small>person</small>)''|| '''hyeawata'''<br>''either one&apos;s'' || '''hyeawatas'''<br>''either one&apos;s''<br>'''hyeawatasi'''<br>''either one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyeewa'''<br>''any two'' || '''hyeewasi'''<br>''any two things'' || '''hyeewati'''<br>''any two people''|| '''bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two persons&apos;''<br>'''hasi bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two persons&apos; (things)'' |- | '''hyeowa'''<br>''neither'' || '''hyeowas'''<br>''neither one'' || '''hyeowat'''<br>''neither person''|| '''hyeawata'''<br>''neither person&apos;s'' || '''hyeowatas'''<br>''neither one&apos;s''<br>'''hyeowatasi'''<br>''neither one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyuawa'''<br>''another'' || '''hyuawas'''<br>''another one'' || '''hyuawat'''<br>''another''|| '''hyuawata'''<br>''another&apos;s'' || '''hyuawatas'''<br>''another&apos;s''<br>'''hyuawatasi'''<br>''another&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyuowa'''<br>''no other'' || '''hyuowas'''<br>''nothing else'' || '''hyuowat'''<br>''nobody else''|| '''hyuowata'''<br>''no other&apos;s'' || '''hyuowatas'''<br>''no other&apos;s''<br>'''hyuowatasi'''<br>''no other&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''gawa'''<sup>2</sup><br>''another'' || '''gawas'''<br>''another one'' || '''gawat'''<br>''another (person)''|| '''gawata'''<br>''another&apos;s'' || '''gawatas'''<br>''another&apos;s''<br>'''gawatasi'''<br>''another&apos;s (things)'' |} <small> :: Note 1) '''Hawa''' and '''hyawa''' are short for '''haawa''' and '''hyaawa''', respectively. :: Note 2) '''Gawa''' is short for '''ga awa''', ''yet one''. </small> ==== Notes on Numerical Deictic Determiners ==== : Examples using the above number-incorporating deictic determiners: ::* '''<u>Ohyawat</u> se iva bay eta vaod.'''....''<u>Not everyone</u> is happy with your decision.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaewasi</u> yafwe uxler yata efoni.'''....''<u>Both (things)</u> can serve our needs.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeawa</u> tim ivlaxo at.'''....''<u>Either</u> room will satisfy me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowas</u> oivlaxo at.'''....''<u>Neither one</u> will dissatisfy me.'' : Note: ::* '''hyua''' means ''another (an alternative)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hyua</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>another (a different)</u> drink.'' ::* '''hyuawa''' means ''another (an additional)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hyuawa</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>another (an additional)</u> drink.'' ::* '''hahyua''' means ''the other (the alternative)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hahyua</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>the other</u> drink.'' ::* '''hohyua'''....''what other (relative)''. Ex. '''Bexlu hohyua suni at lobexa av et.'''....''Keep what other things I left for you.'' ::* '''hehyua'''....''some other'' ::* '''duhohyua'''....''what other, which other'' ::* '''hihyua'''....''this other'' ::* '''huhyua'''....''that other'' ::* '''hyahyua'''....''all other, any other, each other'' ::* '''hyehyua'''....''any other, whatever other'' ::* '''hyohyua'''....''no other'' : Similarly, '''hya''' means ''every, all'', while '''hyawa''' means ''each'', and '''hyaha'''....''all the'', ex: ::* '''<u>Hya</u> dom ayse tebixea suni teaxer.'''....''<u>Every</u> city has interesting things to see.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> domi ayse tebixusi.'''....''<u>All</u> cities have things of interest.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaha</u> domi ayse tebixusi.'''....''<u>All the</u> cities have things of interest.'' ::* '''<u>Hyawa</u> dom ayse tebixun.'''....''<u>Each</u> city has something of interest.'' : Also, '''ha''' means ''the'', while '''hawa''' means ''the only'', eg.: ::* '''<u>Ha</u> twob hu at gwa ife se et.'''....''<u>The</u> man I most love is you.'' ::* '''<u>Hawa</u> toyb nazea ata tepzex se et.'''....''<u>The only</u> woman worth my attention is you.'' : By appending '''y''' to '''hawa''', we get the adverb '''haway'''....''only, solely'', eg; ::* '''<u>Haway</u> et nize ata tepzex.'''....''<u>Only</u> you deserve my attention.''. : The singular person pronouns in the above chart can be converted into pronominal determiners by adding the adjective suffix '''a''', eg.: ::* '''<u>Hyawata</u> tej se ge glatesa vyel hyutas.'''....''<u>Each one's</u> life is as important as another's.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoewata</u> dyun se vyama.'''....''<u>Neither person's</u> name is real.'' : However, the plural person pronouns in the above chart use the preposition '''bi''' (''of'') to form possessives, eg.: ::* '''Ha teji <u>bi hyaiwati</u> se kyebukuwa.'''....''The lives <u>of all three</u> are in danger.'' : The above singular pronominal determiners can, in turn, be converted into inanimate pronouns with the suffix '''-s'''. ::* '''<u>Hyawatas</u> se glatesa.'''....''<u>Each one's</u> is important.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoewatas</u> se vyama.'''....''<u>Neither's</u> is real.'' : The plural pronominal determiners can be nominalized with the use of '''bi''', eg: ::* '''<u>Hyaiwasi</u> <u>bi huti</u> se kyebukuwa.'''....''<u>All three</u> <u>of theirs'</u> are in danger.'' : Correlative Number-incorporating Deictic Determiners are handled as follows: ::* '''Hyeawa A ey B'''....''either A or B'' ::* '''Hyoewa A oy B'''....''neither A nor B'' ::* '''Hyaewa A ay B'''....''both A and B'' ::* '''Hawa A, voy B'''....''only A, not B'' ==== Different Ways of Expressing ''How'' ==== : The different, somewhat confusing, meanings of ''how'' are illustrated here: ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> wit xa hus?'''....''<u>How</u> did he do that?''.... (Equivalent to '''Be duhobyen...?'''....''In what way...?'') (ADVERB OF MANNER) ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et xeye?'''....''<u>How</u> are you doing?''.... (This is the normal way of saying ''How are you?'' or ''How do you do?'' (ADVERB OF MANNER) ::* '''<u>Duhoyena</u> sa ha dyezun?'''....'' <u>How</u> was the film?''.... (''How'' here is an ADJECTIVE OF KIND, and thus ends in '''-a'''.) ::* '''<u>Duhonog (= Duhogla)</u> aga it se?'''....''<u>How</u> big is he?''.... (ADVERB OF DEGREE) ::* '''<u>Huunog (= Huugla)</u> iyfla et se!'''....''<u>How</u> nice you are!''.... (ADVERB OF EMPHATIC DEGREE) : The conjunction ''as'' is expressed most often using relative pro-adverbs of manner: ::* '''Xu <u>hoyen</u> at de.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I say.'' = (in) the way that... ::* '''Xu <u>hyiyen</u>''' (~ '''geyen''') '''at xe.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I do. ( = (in) the same way that...)'' ::* '''Xu <u>hiiyen</u>:'''....''Do <u>as follows</u>. ( = (in) this hereby manner...)'' : However, the preposition/conjunction '''gel''' (''like, as'') can be substituted: ::* '''Xu <u>gel</u> at de.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I say.'' ==== Introducing Relative Clauses with Adverbial Determiners ==== : Many of the determiner adverbs in the above chart can be used in relative clauses, eg: ::* '''At teato et <u>hoj</u> et puo him.'''....''I will see you <u>when</u> you get here.'' ::* '''It xa has <u>avhos van</u> tosa yefa.'''....''He did it <u>because (for the reason that)</u> he felt compelled.'' ::* '''<u>Hyem</u> et po, et so ga iva.'''....''<u>Wherever</u> you go, you'll be happier.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> te ha did, yabu eta tuyab.'''....''<u>Whoever</u> knows the answer, raise your hand.'' ::* '''At te <u>hoyen</u> et xa is.'''....''I know <u>how</u> you did it.'' : See more about this in the section on [[Mirad_Grammar/Syntax#Relative_Clauses|relative clauses under Syntax]]. === Pronominal Deictic Determiners === : Some words in Mirad incorporate deictic prefixes with pronouns and pronominal adjectives, as shown in the following chart: {{small/top}} :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size;smaller;" |+ Pronominal Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! colspan=3 | Pronoun |- ! 1st Person Plural !! 2nd Person Plural !! 3rd Person Plural |- | '''duhoyat'''<br>''which of us'' || '''duhoyet'''<br>''which of you'' || '''duhoyit'''<br>''which of them'' |- | '''heyat'''<br>''some of us'' || '''heyet'''<br>''some of you'' || '''heyit'''<br>''which of them'' |- | '''hyayat'''<br>''each of us'' || '''hyayet'''<br>''each of you'' || '''hyayit'''<br>''each of them'' |- | '''hyeyat'''<br>''any of us'' || '''hyeyet'''<br>''any of you'' || '''hyeyit'''<br>''any of them'' |- | '''hyoyat'''<br>''none of us'' || '''hyoyet'''<br>''none of you'' || '''hyoyit'''<br>''none of them'' |- ! colspan=3 | Pronominal Adjective |- ! 1st Person (Plural) !! 2nd Person (Plural) !! 3rd Person (Plural) |- | '''duhoyata'''<br>''which of our'' || '''duhoyet'''<br>''which of your'' || '''duhoyita'''<br>''which of their'' |- | '''heyata'''<br>''some of our'' || '''heyeta'''<br>''some of your'' || '''heyita'''<br>''which of their'' |- | '''hyayata'''<br>''each of our'' || '''hyayeta'''<br>''each of your'' || '''hyayita'''<br>''each of their'' |- | '''hyeyata'''<br>''any of our'' || '''hyeyeta'''<br>''any of your'' || '''hyeyita'''<br>''any of their'' |- ! colspan=3 | Singular/(Plural) Possessive Pronoun |- ! 1st Person (Plural) !! 2nd Person (Plural) !! 3rd Person (Plural) |- | '''duhoyatas(i)'''<br>''which of ours'' || '''duhoyetas(i)'''<br>''which of yours'' || '''duhoyitas(i)'''<br>''which of theirs'' |- | '''heyatas(i)'''<br>''some of ours'' || '''heyetas(i)'''<br>''some of yours'' || '''heyitas(i)'''<br>''which of theirs'' |- | '''hyayatas(i)'''<br>''each of ours'' || '''hyayetas(i)'''<br>''each of yours'' || '''hyayitas(i)'''<br>''each of theirs'' |- | '''hyeyatas(i)'''<br>''any of ours'' || '''hyeyetas(i)'''<br>''any of yours'' || '''hyeyitas(i)'''<br>''any of theirs'' |- | '''hyoyatas(i)'''<br>''none of ours'' || '''hyoyetas(i)'''<br>''none of yours'' || '''hyoyitas(i)'''<br>''none of theirs'' |} {{small/end}} : The above possessive pronouns refer to things. If you replace the final '''-s''' or '''-si''', to '''-t''' or '''-ti''', then they become animate and refer to people, eg.: ::* '''Ese ewa tudi him. Duhoyitas se his?'''....''There are two children here. Which one of theirs is this?'' : All of the forms in the above chart can also be expressed as separate words, eg.: ::* '''Duhoyet?'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Duhoat bi yet?'''....''Which one of you?'' ::* '''Hyayat'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaglati bi yet'''....''All of us.'' ::* '''Hyoyatasi'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyogla yatasi'''....''All of ours (things)'' Note: ::* '''Awayat'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Awat bi yat'''....''one of us'' ::* '''Hyaewayet'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaewat bi yet'''....''both of you'' ::* '''Hyaiwayit'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaiwat bi yit'''....''all three of them'' === Quantitative Deictic Determiners === : The deictic prefixes can be combined with '''gla''' to form quantitative expressions acting as adverbial or adjectival determiners, and substantives (pronouns referring to things or people): {{small/top}} :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size;smaller;" |+ Quantitative Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! !! Adverbial / Adjectival<br>Determiner !! Inanimate Singular<br>Pronoun !! Inanimate Plural <br>Pronoun !! Animate Plural<br>Pronoun |- !row=1|Interrogative | '''duhogla?'''<br>''how?/how much?/how many?'' || '''duhoglas?'''<br>''how much?'' || '''duhoglasi?'''<br>''how many'' || '''duhoglati?'''<br>''how many (people)?'' |- !row=1|Relative | '''hogla'''<br>''as many/much'' || '''hoglas'''<br>''how much'' || '''duhoglasi'''<br>''how many'' || '''duhoglati'''<br>''how many (as)'' |- !row=1|Definite | '''hagla'''<br>''how/as much/as many'' || '''haglas'''<br>''as much'' || '''haglasi'''<br>''as many'' || '''haglati'''<br>''as many (people)'' |- !row=1|Indefinite | '''hegla'''<br>''somewhat/some/some'' || '''heglas'''<br>''some'' || '''heglasi'''<br>''some'' || '''heglati'''<br>''some (people)'' |- !row=1|Proximal | '''higla'''<br>''this/this much/this many'' || '''higlas'''<br>''this much'' || '''higlasi'''<br>''this many'' || '''higlati'''<br>''this many (people)'' |- !row=1|Distal | '''hugla'''<br>''that/that much/that many'' || '''huglas'''<br>''that much'' || '''huglasi'''<br>''that many'' || '''huglati'''<br>''that many (people)'' |- !row=1|Intensive | '''huugla'''<br>''so very, so much, so many'' || '''huuglas'''<br>''so much'' || '''huuglasi'''<br>''so many'' || '''huuglati'''<br>''so many (people)'' |- !row=1|Negative | '''hyogla'''<br>''none, not very'' || '''hyoglas'''<br>''none of it'' || '''hyoglasi'''<br>''none of them '' || '''hyoglati'''<br>''none'' |- !row=1|Distributive | '''hyagla'''<br>''totally/all/all'' || '''hyaglas'''<br>''all of it'' || '''hyaglasi'''<br>''all of them'' || '''hyaglati'''<br>''all'' |- !row=1|Indeterminate | '''hyegla'''<br>''however/any/any'' || '''hyeglas'''<br>''any of it'' || '''hyeglasi'''<br>''any of them'' || '''hyeglati'''<br>''any number of them'' |- !row=1|Identical | '''hyigla'''<br>''as/as much/as many, equally'' || '''hyiglas'''<br>''the same amount'' || '''hyiglasi'''<br>''the same number'' || '''hyiglati'''<br>''as many (people)'' |- !row=1|Non-identical | '''hyugla'''<br>''not as much/not as much/not as many'' || '''hyuglas'''<br>''a different amount'' || '''hyuglasi'''<br>''a different number of things'' || '''hyuglati'''<br>''a different number of people'' |} {{Small/end}} : Here are some examples showing how these quantitative determiners are used: ::* '''Et deuze <u>huugla</u> fi.'''....''You sing <u>so</u> well.'' ::* '''At se <u>hegla</u> booka.'''....''I am <u>somewhat</u> tired.'' ::* '''<u>Duhogla</u> pati et teata hijub?'''....''<u>How many</u> birds did you see today?'' ::* '''At teata vyavay <u>hugla</u> tami.'''....''I saw exactly <u>that many</u> houses.'' ::* '''Iyt fe <u>hyiglas</u> vyel et.'''....''She wants <u>the same amount</u> as you.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoglati</u> yantexe yet?'''....''<u>How many (people)</u> agree with you?'' ::* '''<u>Hyoglati</u> yantexe.'''....''<u>None</u> agree.'' ::* '''Yit fu <u>heglasi</u>.'''....''They would like <u>some (of them)</u>.'' ::* '''Et yafe bier <u>hyeglasi</u> et fe.'''....''You can take <u>however many</u> you want.'' ::* '''Besu bay at <u>hogla</u> job et fe.'''....''Stay <u>as</u> long with me as you want.'' ::* '''At se <u>huugla</u> booka.'''....''I am <u>so</u> tired.'' : NOTE: The following determiners are synonymous and interchangeable: ::* '''hegla''' = '''gle''' = '''henog''' (''somewhat, to some degree'') ::* '''hyigla''' = '''ge''' = '''hyinog''' (''as, equally, to the same degree'') : The determiner ''huugla'' can be used as an exclamatory adverb, eg.: ::* '''<u>Huugla</u> et agsaye!'''....''<u>How</u> you have grown!'' ::* '''Hua twob jagsaye <u>huugla</u>!'''....''That man has aged <u>so much</u>!'' ::* '''Hia jotul se <u>huugla</u> fiteluza!'''....''This dessert is <u>sooo</u> delicious!'' == Pronominal Determiners == : Pronominal Determiners are what are more often called '''''possessive adjectives''''' such as ''my'' or ''your'' and are discussed in a subsection of [[Mirad Grammar/Pronouns#Pronominal Determiners|Pronouns]]. == Quantitative Determiners == : '''''Quantitative determiners''''' act in one of several ways, they: ::* specify mass, uncountable, singular nouns for relative AMOUNT, eg. ''much happiness, less work'' ::* specify countable nouns for relative NUMBER, eg. ''one apple, two birds, many places'' ::* specify adverbs, adjectives, and verbs for relative DEGREE, eg. ''how poorly, very good, eat too much''. : From these, pronominalized quantitative determiners for PERSONS and THINGS can be derived. ::* Inanimate singular pronouns are formed by adding '''s''' for AN AMOUNT OF A THING ::* Inanimate plural pronouns are formed by adding '''si''' for A NUMBER OF THINGS ::* Animate plural pronouns are formed by adding '''ti''' for A NUMBER OF PERSONS. : The following table presents most of these word forms (Note that the determiners are in a plus (+), equal (=), or minus (-) row.): {| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; margin-left:1.6em; font-size:smaller;" |+ Quantitative Determiners |- !colspan=2|Adverb / Adjective !! Singular Pronoun !!colspan=2| Plural Pronoun |- !colspan=2|Degree/Amount/Number !! Amount !! Number of Things !! Number of People |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''ga'''....''more'' || '''gas'''....''more (stuff)'' || '''gasi'''....''many (things)'' || '''gati'''....''many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''ge'''....''as, as much, as many'' || '''ges'''....''as much (stuff)'' || '''gesi'''....''as many (things)'' || '''geti'''....''as many people'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''go'''....''less, fewer'' || '''gos'''....''less (stuff)'' || '''gosi'''....''fewer (things)'' || '''goti'''....''fewer (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gla'''....''very, much, many''<br>'''glay'''....''so, so much, so many''<br>'''glaa'''....''several'' || '''glas'''....''much (stuff)''<br>'''glays'''....''so much stuff'') || '''glasi'''....''many (things)''<br>'''glaysi'''....''so many (things)''<br>'''glaasi'''....''several things''|| '''glati'''....''many (people)''<br>'''glayti'''....''so many (people)''<br>'''glaati'''....''several people'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gle'''....''rather, quite a lot, quite a few'' || '''gles'''....''quite a lot (of stuff)'' || '''glesi'''....''quite a lot (of things)'' || '''gleti'''....''quite a few (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''glo'''....''slightly, a little, few'' || '''glos'''....''a little bit'' || '''glosi'''....''a few (things)'' || '''gloti'''....''few (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gra'''....''too, too much, too many'' || '''gras'''....''too much (stuff)'' || '''grasi'''....''too many (things)'' || '''grati'''....''too many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gre'''....''enough'' || '''gres'''....''enough (stuff)'' || '''gresi'''....''enough (things)'' || '''greti'''....''enough (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''gro'''....''insufficiently, too little, too few'' || '''gros'''....''too little'' || '''grosi'''....''too few'' || '''groti'''....''too few (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gwa'''....''most'' || '''gwas'''....''the most (stuff)'' || '''gwasi'''....''the most (things)'' || '''gwati'''....''most people'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gwe'''....''just so (much/many)'' || '''gwes'''....''just so much'' || '''gwesi'''....''just so many'' || '''gweti'''....''just so many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''gwo'''....''least'' || '''gwos'''....''the least (stuff)'' || '''gwosi'''....''the least (number of)'' || '''gwoti'''....''the least number (of people)'' |} : Examples Using Graded Quantitative Determiners :: Adverbs of degree modifying an adjective: :::* '''At se <u>gla</u> iva.'''....''I am <u>very</u> happy.'' :::* '''Et sa <u>gra</u> uga.'''....''You were <u>too</u> slow.'' :: Adverbs of Degree modifying another adverb: :::* '''Twobi dale <u>ge</u> igay vyel toybi.'''....''Men talk <u>as</u> fast as women.'' :::* '''Yat yexe <u>ga igay</u> vyel yet.'''....''We work faster (= <u>more quickly</u>) than you.'' :: Adjectives quantifying a singular mass noun: :::* '''<u>Ga</u> nas efwo.'''....''<u>More</u> money will be needed.'' :::* '''<u>Gra</u> nas noxwa.'''....''<u>Too much</u> money was spent.'' :: Adjectives quantifying a plural countable noun (= things or people): :::* '''At ayse <u>gro</u> sari.'''....''I've got <u>too few</u> tools.'' :::* '''<u>Gla</u> tami osexwa.'''....''<u>Many</u> houses were destroyed.'' :::* '''Yat efe <u>gla ga</u> valkdibuti.'''....''We need <u>many more</u> policemen.'' :: Pronouns referring to a mass amount of something (= stuff): :::* '''<u>Gas</u> ilokeye.'''....''<u>More (stuff)</u> is leaking.'' :::* '''Et dileye <u>gras</u>.'''....''You are asking for <u>too much (stuff)</u>.'' :::* '''Yat kexo <u>gwas</u>.'''....''We will seek <u>as much (stuff) as possible</u>.'' :::* '''At iba <u>gwes</u>.'''....''I received <u>just the right amount.</u>'' :: Pronouns referring to a countable number of things: :::* '''Hisi se fia oy yat fe <u>gasi</u>.'''....''These (items) are good but we want <u>more (items)</u>.'' :::* '''At teate drilari oy <u>grosi</u>.'''....''I see pens, but <u>too few</u>.'' :: Pronouns referring to a countable number of people: :::* '''<u>Grati</u> xaye vyoki be hia yexem.'''....''<u>Too many (people)</u> have made mistakes at this work site.'' :::* '''<u>Glati</u> dyunwe oy <u>gloti</u> kebiwe.'''....''<u>Many</u> are called but <u>few</u> are chosen.'' == Numerical Determiners == : This category of determiners, which includes cardinal, ordinal and other number words like ''two'', ''a tenth'', and ''first'', is such a vast topic that it is treated in its own chapter [[Mirad_Grammar/Numbers]] <noinclude>{{Chapter navigation with TOC|Adverbs|Numbers}}</noinclude> 7z119kl2r5mr9qrx38tx37ap4bbdoca 4520847 4520844 2025-07-01T19:46:28Z Tyoyafud 6233 /* Introducing Relative Clauses with Adverbial Determiners */ 4520847 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>{{status|100%}}</noinclude> : Determiners are words that specify or point out the context of nouns and other parts of speech. The English determiner ''this'', for example, specifies a noun for its proximity to the current context. In English, demonstrative pronouns/adjectives/adverbs, possessive pronouns/adjectives, quantifiers like ''more'' and ''very'', and numeric expressions like ''both'' fall under this category. == Types of Determiners == : Determiners in Mirad fall into the following categories: ::{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Types of Determiners |- ! Type !! Also Known As !! English Examples |- !row=1| Deictic | Demonstrative Pronouns/Adjectives/Adverbs || ''the'', ''this'', ''some'', ''every'', ''which?'', ''when'' |- !row=1| Pronominal | Possessive Pronouns/Adjectives | ''my'', ''anybody&apos;s'', ''one&apos;s own'' |- !row=1| Quantitative | Quantifiers || ''more'', ''less'', ''very'' |- !row=1| Numerical | Numerals/Fractions/Ordinals/Dates, etc. || ''one'', ''half'', ''first'' |} : Furthermore, as for part of speech, determiners can be adjectives, pronouns, or adverbs. As adjectives, determiners can itemize or classify. As pronouns, they can refer to one or more persons (male or female) or things. As adverbs, they can specify circumstance, i.e. time, place, degree, kind, age, frequency, and so forth. == Deictic Determiners == : '''''Deictic determiners''''' are words which point out or ''specify'' other words as to their context, including what grammarians often call '''''demonstratives'''''. All deictic determiners in Mirad begin with the letter '''h'''. The letters following the '''h''' indicate the grammatical and semantic category. : Deictic determiners include the following traditional grammatical categories: <div style="background: lightyellow"> ::* '''''Demonstrative adjectives ''''' like ''this'', ''that'', ''those'', ''that one'' ::* '''''The definite article''''' ''the ''&nbsp;&nbsp; (which is really a '''''demonstrative adjective''''' like those above.) ::* '''''Demonstrative pronouns''''' like ''this'', ''that'', ''those'', ''that one'' ::* '''''Interrogative and relative pronouns''''' like ''who, which, that'' ::* '''''Indefinite adjectives''''' like ''any'', ''some'', ''all'', ''something'', ''such'', etc. ::* '''''Indefinite pronouns''''' like ''any'', ''some'', ''all'', ''something'', ''such'', etc. ::* '''''Pronouns, adjectives, and adverbs of quantity''''' like ''so much'', ''that many'', ''how many?'', ''very'', etc. ::* '''''Adverbs of circumstance:''''' :::* '''''time''''' like ''when'', ''now'', ''ever'' :::* '''''place''''' like ''there'', ''here'', ''somewhere'' :::* '''''manner''''' like ''how'', ''thus'', ''somehow'' :::* '''''kind''''' like ''so'', age ''this year old'' :::* '''''direction''''' like ''that way'', ''any which way'' :::* '''''reason''''' ''why?'', ''for that reason'', ''for no reason'' :::* '''''degree''''' ''this (well)'', ''so (good)'', ''how (bad)'' :::* '''''frequency''''' like ''how often'', ''so often'', ''never'' :::* '''''age''''' like ''this old'', ''how old?'', ''of any age'' </div> === Deictic Prefixes === [[File:Deixis (DE).png|thumb|none]] : There is a whole set of '''''correlative deictic prefixes''''', which are joined to circumstantial stub category suffixes to derive pronoun, adjective, and adverb determiners. In some grammars, these words are called ''wh-question words and their pointed answers''. For example, QUESTION: <u>Who</u> is your wife? ANSWER: <u>This</u> is my wife. (or) QUESTION: <u>Where</u> is your house? ANSWER: My house is <u>here</u>. These word forms are called correlative because they relate to one another in way that can be mapped to a table. : Here are the Mirad deictic classification prefixes: :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Deictic Prefixes |- ! Classification !! Deictic Prefix |- ! scope="row" | Interrogative | '''duho-...?'''....''what?, which?'' |- ! scope="row" | Relative | '''ho-'''....''which, that'' |- ! scope="row" | Exclamatory | '''hoo-'''....''how...!'' |- ! scope="row" | Definite | '''ha-'''....''the'' |- ! scope="row: | Indefinite | '''he-'''....''some, a certain'' |- ! scope="row" | Proximal | '''hi-'''....''this, these'' |- ! scope="row" | Immediate | '''hii-'''....''the following'' |- ! scope="row" | Distal | '''hu-'''....''that, those'' |- ! scope="row" | Intensive | '''huu-'''....''such, so, what a...!'' |- ! scope="row" | Distributive | '''hya-'''....''every, all, each'' |- ! scope="row" | Indeterminate | '''hye-'''....''any, whatever'' |- ! scope="row" | Negative | '''hyo-'''....''no, not any'' |- ! scope="row | Identical | '''hyi-'''....''the same, the very'' |- ! scope="row" | Non-identical | '''hyu-'''....''the other, another, else'' |} : Note: The Identical ('''hyi-''') and Non-identical prefixes ('''hyu-''') can optionally be substituted with '''ge-''' (''same'') and '''oge-''' (different), respectively. === Circumstantial Category Suffixes === : The table below shows word stub suffixes that indicate the circumstantial category of deictic expressions. They are called stubs, because they are reduced word forms. The combination of deictic prefixes and circumstantial stub suffixes produce a matrix of deictic '''''correlatives''''', seen later in this chapter. Use of the stub instead of the long form is a matter of optional economy. A few categories do not have stubs. :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Category Stubs |- ! Category !! Stub Suffix !! Long Form !! Short Question Form || Long Question Form |- ! row=1| Person | '''-t''' || '''<u>t</u>ob'''....''person'' || '''duhot?'''....''who?''|| '''duhotob?''' |- ! row=1| Thing | '''-s''' ||'''<u>s</u>un'''....''thing'' || '''duhos?'''....''what?''|| '''duhosun?''' |- ! row=1| Place | '''-m''' ||'''ne<u>m</u>'''....''place'' || '''duhom?'''....''where?''|| '''duhonem?''' |- ! row=1| Time | '''-j''' ||'''<u>j</u>ob'''....''time'' || '''duhoj?'''....''when?''|| '''duhojob?''' |- ! row=1| Manner | '''-yen''' ||'''b<u>yen</u>'''....''manner'' || '''duhoyen?'''....''how?''||'''duhobyen?''' |- ! row=1| Kind | '''-yena''' ||'''sauna</u>'''....''kind of'' || '''duhoyena?'''....''what kind of?''||'''duhosauna?''' |- ! row=1| Degree | '''-gla''' ||'''nog'''....''degree'' || '''duhogla (fi)?'''....''how (well)?''||'''duhonog?''' |- ! row=1| Number | '''-gla''' ||'''sag'''....''number'' || '''duhogla (pati)?'''....''how many (birds)?''||'''duhosag?''' |- ! row=1| Mass Quantity | '''-gla''' ||'''glan'''....''amount'' || '''duhogla (mil)?'''....''how much (water)?''||'''duhoglan?''' |- ! row=1| Frequency | ||'''xag'''....''frequency''|| '''duhoxag?'''....''how often?''|| -- |- ! row=1| Reason | '''-avhos''' || '''av hosun'''....''reason'' || '''duavhos?'''....''why?''|| '''duavhosun?''' |- ! row=1| Age | ||'''jaga'''....''of age'' || '''duhojaga?'''....''how old?''|| -- |} : There can be other circumstantial categories other than those listed above, such as "direction", "order", etc. eg. '''Duhomep wit pa?'''....''Which way did he go?''. === Charts of Correlative Deictic Determiners === : Here is are three tables showing the matrix of correlative deictic determiners. Note that the determiners belong to three parts of speech, 1) adjectives, 2) pronouns, and 3) adverbs: :{| class="wikitable" font-size:smaller style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |- ! Part of Speech !! Ending |- | Adjective || '''-a''' |- | Pronoun || '''-t(i)''', '''-s(i)''' |- | Adverb || (no ending) |} ==== Deictic Determiner Adjectives ==== : All deictic determiner adjectives end in '''-a''' and are used to modify nouns. :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Adjectives |- valign=top ! !! Selective<br>-a!! Possessive<br>-ta !! Kind/Manner<br>-yena !! Quantity<br>-gla !! Age<br>-jaga |- ! Interrogative |'''duhoa?'''<br>''which?''||'''duhota?'''<br>''whose?''|| '''duhoyena?'''<br>''what kind of?''||'''duhogla?'''<br>''how much/many?'' ||'''duhojaga?'''<br>''how old?'' |- valign=top ! Relative |'''hoa'''<br>''which''||'''hota'''<br>''whose''|| '''hoyena'''<br>''what kind of''||'''hogla'''<br>''how much/many'' ||'''hojaga'''<br>''how old'' |- valign=top ! Exclamatory |'''hooa'''<br>''what a...!''|| || ||'''hoogla'''<br>''look how much/many...!'' ||'''hoojaga'''<br>''how old a...!'' |- valign=top ! Definite |'''ha'''<sup>1</sup><br>''the''||'''hatas'''<br>''the person’s''|| '''hayena'''<br>''of the kind''||'''hagla'''<br>''of the amount'' ||'''hajaga'''<br>''of the age'' |- valign=top ! Indefinite |'''hea'''<br>''some/a certain''||'''heta'''<br>''someone's''|| '''heyena'''<br>''some kind of''||'''hegla'''<br>''some'' ||'''hejaga'''<br>''somewhat old'' |- valign=top ! Proximal |'''hia'''<br>''this''||'''hita'''<br>''this person’s''|| '''hiyena'''<br>''this kind of''||'''higla'''<br>''this much'' ||'''hijaga'''<br>''this old'' |- valign=top ! Immdediate |'''hiia'''<br>''the following''||'''hiita'''<br>''the follow person’s''|| '''hiiyena'''<br>''the following kind of'' || '''hiigla'''<br>''to the following degree'' ||'''hiijaga'''<br>''of the following age'' |- valign=top ! Distal |'''hua'''<br>''that''||'''huta'''<br>''that person’s''|| '''huyena'''<br>''that kind of'' ||'''hugla'''<br>''that much/many'' ||'''hujaga'''<br>''of that age'' |- valign=top ! Intensive |'''huua'''<br>''such a''||'''huuta'''<br>''such a person’s''|| '''huuyena'''<br>''such kind of'' ||'''huugla'''<br>''so much/many'' ||'''huujaga'''<br>''of such an age'' |- valign=top ! Negative |'''hyoa'''<br>''no''||'''hyota'''<br>''nobody’s''|| '''hyoyena'''<br>''no kind of'' ||'''hyogla'''<br>''no amount/number of'' ||'''hyojaga'''<br>''of no age'' |- valign=top ! Distributive |'''hya'''<sup>1</sup><br>''every, all''||'''hyata'''<br>''everybody’s''|| '''hyayena'''<br>''every kind of'' ||'''hyagla'''<br>''all'' ||'''hyajaga'''<br>''of every age'' |- valign=top ! Indeterminate |'''hyea'''<br>''whichever/any''<sup>2</sup>||'''hyeta'''<br>''whosever''|| '''hyeyena'''<br>''whatever/any kind of'' ||'''hyegla'''<br>''however much/many'' ||'''hyejaga'''<br>''however old'' |- valign=top ! Identical |'''hyia'''<br>''the same''||'''hyita'''<br>''the same person’s''|| '''hyiyena'''<br>''the same kind of'' ||'''hyigla'''<br>''just as'' ||'''hyijaga'''<br>''just as old'' |- valign=top ! Non-identical |'''hyua'''<br>''the other''||'''hyuta'''<br>''someone else's''|| '''hyuyena'''<br>''another kind of'' ||'''hyugla'''<br>''not as much/many'' ||'''hyujaga'''<br>''of another age'' |} : There are other adjectival determiners such as '''duhonoga'''....''how/to what degree'', '''duhosauna'''....''what kind of'' that are not included in the above chart. :Note 1) The determiners '''ha''' (''the'') and '''hya''' (''every'') are shortened forms of '''haa''' and '''hyaa'''. Also, '''ha''' is commonly called a "definite article". ::* While '''hya''' means ''every'' or ''all'', the word '''hyawa''' is used for ''each''. ::* The possessive adjective forms in the above table ending in '''-ta''' such as '''hyeta'''....''whosever'' cannot be pluralized by the ending '''-tia'''. To say '''other people's''', use the expression '''bi hyuti''' (Lit. ''of others''). ::* The '''ho-''' words are relative, meaning that they can serve to form relative clauses like the following: :::* '''Ha toyb, <u>hota</u> twad se Bill,'''....''The woman, <u>whose</u> husband is Bill,'' :::* '''At voy te <u>hos</u> et tepfe.'''....''I don't know <u>what</u> you mean.'' :::* '''At teste <u>hogla</u> et fie iyt.'''....''I understand <u>how much</u> you love her.'' ::* The '''hoo-''' words are exclamatory and are used in expressions like the following: :::* '''<u>Hoogla</u> iva se at van et upa!'''....''<u>How</u> glad I am that you came!'' :::* '''<u>Hooa</u> jub his saye!'''....''<u>What a</u> day this has been!'' ('''Hooa''' is pronounced ''ho-O-a'' as three syllables.) :Note 2) The indeterminant determiners can also be translated with ''no matter what, no matter where, etc.'' ==== Deictic Determiner Pronouns ==== : All deictic determiner pronouns end either in '''-t''' for persons or '''-s''' for things. They can be singular or plural ('''-i'''). :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Pronouns |- valign=top ! !! Thing -s<br>Things -si !! Person -t<br>Persons -ti !! Kind of Thing -yenas<br>Kinds of Things -yenasi !! Amount -glas<br>Number of Things -glasi !! Number of People -glati |- valign=center ! Interrogative |'''duhos?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what?''<br>'''duhosi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what (things)?''|| '''duhot?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who?''<br>'''duhoti?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who (pl.)''|| '''duhoyenas?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what kind of thing?'' <br>'''duhoyenasi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;what kinds of things?|| '''duhoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how much?''<br>'''duhoglasi?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many things?''|| '''duhoglati?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many people?'' |- valign=center ! Relative |'''hos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what''<br>'''hosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what''|| '''hot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who''<br>'''hoti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''who''|| '''hoyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what kind of thing'' <br>'''hoyenasi'''|| '''hoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how much''<br>'''hoglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many''|| '''hoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''how many'' |- ! Exclamatory |'''hoos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a thing!''<br>'''hoosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what things!''|| '''hoot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a person!''<br>'''hooti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what people!''|| || '''hooglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what an amount!''<br>'''hooglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a number!''|| '''hoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''what a number of people!'' |- valign=center ! Definite |'''has'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''it''<br>'''hasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''they/them''|| '''hat'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''he/she/him/her''<br>'''hati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''they/them''|| '''hayenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the king of thing''<br>'''hayenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the kind of things''|| '''haglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the amount'' <br>'''haglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the number of things''|| '''haglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the number of people'' |- valign=center ! Indefinite |'''hes'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''something''<br>'''hesi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some things''|| '''het'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''someone''<br>'''heti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some''|| '''heyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some kind of thing'' <br>'''heyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some kinds of thing''|| '''heglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some''<br>'''heglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some things''|| '''heglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''some people'' |- valign=center ! Proximal |'''his'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this''<br>'''hisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these''|| '''hit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this person''<br>'''hiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these people''|| '''hiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this kind of thing'' <br>'''hiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''these kinds of things''|| '''higlas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this much''<br>'''higlasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this many''|| '''higlati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this many people'' |- valign=center ! Immediate |'''hiis'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following thing''<br>'''hiisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following things''|| '''hiit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following person''<br>'''hiiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following people''|| '''hiiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following kind of thing'' <br>'''hiiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following kinds of things''|| '''hiiglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following amount''<br>'''hiiglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''this following number of things''|| '''hiiglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the following number of people'' |- valign=center ! Distal |'''hus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that''<br>'''husi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those''|| '''hut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that person''<br>'''huti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those people''|| '''huyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that kind of thing'' <br>'''huyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''those kinds of things''|| '''huglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that much''<br>'''huglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that many''|| '''huglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''that many people'' |- valign=center ! Intensive |'''huus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a thing''<br>'''huusi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such things''|| '''huut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a person''<br>'''huuti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such people''|| '''huuyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such a kind of thing'' <br>'''huuyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''such kinds of things''|| '''huuglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so much''<br>'''huuglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so many''|| '''huuglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''so many people'' |- valign=center ! Negative |'''hyos'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''nothing''<br>'''hyosi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none of them''|| '''hyot'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''nobody''<br>'''hyoti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none of them''|| '''hyoyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''no kind of thing'' <br>'''hyoyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''no kinds of things''|| '''hyoglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none''<br>'''hyoglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none''|| '''hyoglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''none'' |- valign=center ! Distributive |'''hyas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''everything''<br>'''hyasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyat'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''everybody''<br>'''hyati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyayenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''every kind of'' <br>'''hyayenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all kinds of things''|| '''hyaglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of it''<br>'''hyaglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them''|| '''hyaglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''all of them'' |- valign=center ! Indeterminate |'''hyes'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''anything''<br>'''hyesi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any''|| '''hyet'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''anybody''<br>'''hyeti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of them''|| '''hyeyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any kind of'' <br>'''hyeyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''whatever things''|| '''hyeglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of it''<br>'''hyeglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''any of them''|| '''hyeglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''whoever'' |- valign=center ! Identical |'''hyis'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same thing''<br>'''hyisi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same things''|| '''hyit'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same person''<br>'''hyiti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same people''|| '''hyiyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same kind of'' <br>'''hyiyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''the same kinds of things''|| '''hyiglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as much''<br>'''hyiglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as many''|| '''hyiglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''as many people'' |- valign=center ! Non-identical |'''hyus'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''something else''<br>'''hyusi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other things''|| '''hyut'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''someone else''<br>'''hyuti'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other people''|| '''hyuyenas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another kind'' <br>'''hyuyenasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''other kinds''|| '''hyuglas'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another amount''<br>'''hyuglasi'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another number of things''|| '''hyuglati'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''another number of people'' |} : Concerning the above chart, note the following: ::* The interrogative determiners all begin with '''duho-''', which means '''say which''', and are technically imperatives. '''Duhom?''', for example, means '''Tell (me) the place...'''. The '''o'''-stem forms without the '''du-''' are used as relative clause heads, eg. '''At po <u>hom</u> et po.'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''I will go <u>where</u> you go.'' ::* Interrogatives usually come at the beginning of a sentence as in English, eg. '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* Determiners come first before any other epithets of a noun, eg. '''<u>Hia</u> aga jaga tam...'''<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;''<u>This</u> big old house...''. ::* Person and Thing determiners can be made selective by inserting '''a''' before the final '''t''' or '''s''', eg. '''Duhot?''' means ''Who?'', while '''Duhoat?''' means ''Which one (of several persons)?'' ==== Deictic Determiner Adverbs ==== : All deictic determiner adverbs refer to a circumstance. :{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Correlative Deictic Determiner Adverbs |- valign=top ! Circumstance--> !! Place<br>-m !! Time<br>-j !! Manner<br>-yen!! Degree<br>-gla !! Frequency<br>-xag !! Reason<br>-sav |- valign=center ! Interrogative | '''duhom?'''<br>''where?'' || '''duhoj?'''<br>''when?'' || '''duhoyen?'''<br>''how?'' || '''duhogla?'''<br>''how (very)?'' || '''duhoxag?'''<br>''how often?''|| '''duavhos?'''<sup>1</sup><br>''why?'' |- valign=center ! Relative | '''hom'''<br>''where'' || '''hoj'''<br>''when'' || '''hoyen'''<br>''how'' || '''hogla'''<br>''how (very)'' || '''hoxag'''<br>''how often'' || '''avhos (van)<sup>2</sup>'''<br>''because'' |- valign=center ! Exclamatory | || || '''hooyen'''<br>''and how!, such a...'' || '''hoogla'''<br>''how very...!, so...''<sup>3</sup> || || |- valign=center ! Definite | '''ham'''<br>''the place'' || '''haj'''<br>''the time'' || '''hayen'''<br>''the manner'' || '''hagla'''<br>''just as'' || '''haxag'''<br>''as frequently''|| '''avhas'''<br>''the reason'' |- valign=center ! Indefinite | '''hem'''<br>''somewhere'' || '''hej'''<br>''sometime'' || '''heyen'''<br>''somehow'' || '''hegla'''<br>''somewhat'' || '''hexag'''<br>''somewhat often''||'''avhes'''<br>''for some reason'' |- valign=center ! Proximal | '''him'''<br>''here'' || '''hij'''<br>''now'' || '''hiyen'''<br>''this way'' || '''higla'''<br>''this'' || '''hixag'''<br>''this often''||'''avhis'''<br>''for this reason'' |- valign=center ! Immediate | '''hiim'''<br>''the following place'' || '''hiij'''<br>''the following time'' || '''hiiyen'''<br>''the following way'' || '''hiigla'''<br>''to the following degree'' || '''hiixag'''<br>''at the following frequency''||'''avhiis'''<br>''for the following reason'' |- valign=center ! Distal | '''hum'''<br>''there'' || '''huj'''<br>''then'' || '''huyen'''<br>''that way'' || '''hugla'''<br>''to that degree'' || '''huxag'''<br>''that often''|| '''avhus'''<br>''therefore'' |- valign=center ! Intensive | '''huum'''<br>''such a place'' || '''huuj'''<br>''at such a time'' || '''huuyen'''<br>''in such a way'' || '''huugla'''<br>''so (very)'' || '''huuxag'''<br>''so often''|| '''avhuus'''<br>''for such a reason'' |- valign=center ! Negative | '''hyom'''<br>''nowhere'' || '''hyoj'''<br>''never'' || '''hyoyen'''<br>''in no way'' || '''hyogla'''<br>''not at all'' || '''hyoxag'''<br>''not once''|| '''avhyos'''<br>''for no reason'' |- valign=center ! Distributive | '''hyam'''<br>''everywhere'' || '''hyaj'''<br>''always'' || '''hyayen'''<br>''in every way'' || '''hyagla'''<br>''fully'' || '''hyaxag'''<br>''always''||'''avhyas'''<br>''for every reason'' |- valign=center ! Indeterminate | '''hyem'''<br>''anywhere'' || '''hyej'''<br>''whenever'' || '''hyeyen'''<br>''however'' || '''hyegla'''<br>''however'' || '''hyexag'''<br>''however often'' || '''avhyes'''<br>''for whatever reason'' |- valign=center ! Indentical | '''hyim'''<br>''at the same place'' || '''hyij'''<br>''at the same time'' || '''hyiyen'''<br>''in the same way'' || '''hyigla'''<br>''as'' || '''hyixag'''<br>''as often''|| '''avhyis'''<br>''for the same reason'' |- valign=center ! Non-identical | '''hyum'''<br>''somewhere else'' || '''hyuj'''<br>''some other time'' || '''hyuyen'''<br>''otherwise'' || '''hyugla'''<br>''not as'' || '''hyuxag'''<br>''not as often''||'''avhyus'''<br>''for some other reason'' |} :Note 1) '''Duavhos?''' translates literally to "Say for what?". :Note 2) The positive complimentizer '''van''' is optional. :Note 3) A clause following '''hoogla''' <ADJ>/<ADV> must be followed by '''van''', eg. '''Et eka <u>hoogla fi van</u> ha teexuti byasa ab yiti tyoyabi.'''....''You played <u>so well that</u> the audience stood on their feet.'' : Concerning the above chart, note the following: :* The interrogative determiners all begin with '''duho-''', which means '''say which''', and are technically imperatives. '''Duhom?''', for example, means '''Tell (me) the place...'''. The '''o'''-stem forms without the '''du-''' are used as relative clause heads, eg. '''At po <u>hom</u> et po.'''....''I will go <u>where</u> you go.'' :* Interrogatives usually come at the beginning of a sentence as in English, eg. '''<u>Duhom</u> se eta tam?'''....''<u>Where</u> is your house?'' :* Not included in the above chart is a related interrogative, which is a complementizer. ::* '''Duven...?'''.... (Question introducer) '''Is it true that...?, Say whether...''' :::* '''<u>Duven</u> et se tadxwa?'''....''Are you married? (= <u>Say whether</u> you are married.)'' :* The adverbs of degree in the above chart ('''duhogla?''', etc.) are interchangeable with adverbs ending in '''-nog'''....''degree'' ('''duhonog?'''....''to what degree?, how...?'', '''henog'''....''somewhat'') :* Other deictic determiner adverbs of circumstance exist and are not on the above chart: ::* '''duhomep?'''....''which way?'' :::* '''humep'''....''that way'' ::* '''duhobyun?'''....''to what end?'' :::* '''hyobyun'''....''for no purpose'' ::* '''duhoizon?'''....''in which direction?'' :::* ''''hyaizon'''....''in every direction'' ==== Examples of Deictic Determiner Usage ==== ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ('''Duhos''' is pronounced '''du-HOS''') ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> se iyta twad?'''....''<u>Who</u> is her husband?'' ::* '''<u>Duhowat</u> se iyta twad?'''....''<u>Which one of the guys</u> is her husband?'' (selective) ::* '''<u>Duhoti</u> fe eker?'''....''<u>Who (pl.)</u> want to play?'' ::* '''<u>Hyas</u> se fia.'''....''<u>Everything</u> is fine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyat</u> tre et.'''....''<u>Everyone</u> knows you.'' ::* '''<u>Hyot</u> tre at.'''....''<u>Nobody</u> knows me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyati</u> ekeye fi.'''....''<u>All of them</u> are playing well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoti</u> ekeye fi.'''....''<u>None of them</u> are playing well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> yafe eker.'''....''<u>Anyone</u> can play.'' ::* '''<u>Hyes</u> yafwe.'''....''<u>Anything</u> is possible.'' ::* '''At fe <u>hyuyenat</u> be ata ekutyan.'''....''I want <u>someone else</u> on my team.'' ::* '''<u>Huuyenati</u> fyuxe yata oj.'''....''<u>Such people</u> harm our future.'' ::* '''Et yefe tepier <u>hiisi</u>.'''....''You must bear in mind <u>the following things</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et xa hus.'''.....''<u>How</u> did you do that?'' (pronounced '''du-ho-YEN''') ::* '''<u>Duavhos</u> iyt pia <u>huugla</u> jwa?'''....''<u>Why</u> did she leave <u>so</u> early?'' ::* '''<u>Hwita</u> tam se ga aga.'''....''<u>This guy's</u> house is bigger.'' ::* '''At voy ayse ha dyuni <u>bi huyti</u>.'''....''I don't have <u>those women's</u> names.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoa</u> tam se etas?'''....''<u>Which</u> house is yours?'' ::* '''<u>Huua</u> tej et ayse!'''....''<u>What a</u> life you have!'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyena</u> dyezuni ifxe et?'''....''<u>What kind of</u> movies do you like?'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> tef okwa?'''....''<u>Whose</u> hat was lost?'' ::* '''<u>Hota</u> tef okwa bese otwas.'''....''<u>Whose</u> hat was lost remains a mystery.'' ::* '''<u>Ha</u> tob ta yata dyuni.'''....''<u>The</u> man knew our names.'' ::* '''<u>Hoyena</u> dini at ife, et ufe.'''....''<u>The kind of</u> stories I love, you hate.'' ::* '''<u>Hea</u> mepi gawdyunxwo.'''....''<u>Certain</u> streets will be renamed.'' ::* '''<u>Heyena</u> fukyes uxaye purilp nyaunx.'''....''<u>Some kind of</u> accident has caused a traffic jam.'' ::* '''<u>Heta</u> abtaf kaxwa be ha zatem.'''.....''<u>Someone's</u> coat was found in the foyer.'' ::* '''<u>Hia</u> dyes se ata gwafwas.'''....''<u>This</u> book is my favorite.'' ::* '''<u>Hiia</u> duni se ofwa.'''....''<u>The following</u> words are prohibited.'' ::* '''<u>Hiiyena</u> axlyen voy afwu.'''....''<u>The following sort of</u> behavior would not be allowed.'' ::* '''<u>Hiyena</u> axlyen voy vayafwo.'''....''<u>This type of</u> behavior will not be tolerated.'' ::* '''<u>Hita</u> tim so yolza.'''....''<u>This person's</u> room will be blue.'' ::* '''<u>Hua</u> mas efwe gawvozilbwer.'''....''<u>That</u> wall needs to be repainted.'' ::* '''<u>Huua</u> dini yufxe tudi.'''....''<u>Such</u> stories scare children.'' ::* '''<u>Huyena</u> duni voy yeyfwe yixwer za at.'''....''<u>Such</u> words should not be used in front of me.'' ::* '''<u>Hwuta</u> tam magseye.'''....''<u>That guy's</u> house is on fire.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoa</u> din se ga kyitesa.'''....''<u>No</u> story is more important.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoyena</u> tes tesiyafwe.'''....''<u>No such</u> meaning can be inferred.'' ::* '''<u>Hyota</u> jatexdras sa ga fia.'''....''<u>Nobody's</u> plan is better.'' ::* '''<u>Hyos</u> oboxe huyt.'''....''<u>Nothing</u> bothers that gal.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> mepi izpe Roma.'''....''<u>All</u> roads lead to Rome.'' ::* '''<u>Hya ha</u> mepi se ebwa.'''....''<u>All the</u> roads are blocked.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> twob yefe xer ita gon.'''....''<u>Every</u> man must do his part.'' ::* '''<u>Hyayena</u> telami ese be hia domep.'''....''<u>All manner of</u> restaurants exist on this street.'' ::* '''<u>Hyata</u> tej se uka bi yaobi.'''....''<u>Everyone's</u> life is full of ups and downs.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaewa</u> domi agsaye.'''....''<u>Both</u> cities have grown.'' ::* '''<u>Hyea</u> voz so fia.'''....''<u>Any</u> color will be fine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeyena</u> til se aysyafwa.'''....''<u>Any kind of</u> drink is available.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeta</u> ved se ge ifa vyel atas.'''....''<u>Anyone's</u> guess is as good as mine.'' ::* '''<u>Hyea</u> tim et fe et yafe ayser.'''....''<u>Whatever</u> room you want, you can have.'' ::* '''<u>Hyia</u>/(Ha gea) fukyesi kyese glaxag.'''....''<u>The same</u> accidents occur frequently.'' ::* '''<u>Hyiyena</u>/(Ha geyena) dyezuni teaxuwa zajub.'''....''<u>The same kind of</u> films were shown yesterday.'' ::* '''<u>Hyita</u>/(Ha geta) dyun yixwa gajod.'''....''<u>The same person's</u> name was used again.'' ::* '''<u>Hyua</u> dyezun sa ga ifuyea.'''....''<u>The other</u> movie was more entertaining.'' ::* '''<u>Hyuyena</u>/(Ogeyena) som teasu ga fia.'''....''<u>Another kind of</u> furniture would look better.'' ::* '''<u>Hyuta</u>/(ogeta) texyen se ge fyia.'''....''<u>Someone else's</u> opinion is equally valid.'' ::* '''Ha dyuni <u>bi hiyti</u> voy dodrawe.'''....''<u>These women's</u> names have not been made public.'' ::* '''Ha dyuni <u>bi hwiiti</u> voy dodrowe.'''....''<u>The following males'</u> names will not be publicized.'' ::* '''<u>Hijaga</u> tobweti voy afwo him.'''....''Boys <u>of this age</u> will not be allowed here.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> et tambese?'''....''<u>Where</u> do you live?'' ::* '''At tambese <u>hum</u>.'''....''I live <u>there</u>.'' ::* '''Et tambese <u>hom</u> ha mep uje.'''....''You live <u>where</u> the road ends.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> yet peye?'''....''<u>Where</u> are you people going?'' ::* '''Et yafe per <u>hyem</u> et fu.'''....''You can go <u>anywhere</u> you would like.'' ::* '''<u>Duhom</u> et byise?'''....''<u>Where</u> are you from?'' (Lit: ''Where do you originate?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoj</u> et taja?'''....''<u>When</u> were you born?'' ::* '''At voy tajaya <u>huj</u>.'''....''I had not been born <u>then</u>.'' ::* '''Et yeyfe duder <u>hiiyen</u>.'''....''You should respond <u>in the following way</u>.'' ::* '''Ot voy yefe daler <u>huuyen</u>.'''....''One must not talk <u>in such a manner</u>.'' ::* '''Et pia <u>hesav</u>.'''....''He left <u>for some reason</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et iyfe hia vifil?'''....''<u>How</u> do like this wine?'' ::* '''Voy se fia axler <u>hiyen</u>.'''....''It is not good to act <u>this way</u>.'' ::* '''<u>Duavhos</u> et tadia <u>huugla</u> jwa?'''....''<u>Why</u> did you marry <u>so</u> late?'' ::* '''Ha twob pia <u>avhyos</u>.'''....''The man left <u>for no reason</u>.'' ::* '''Hwat pia <u>avhos van</u> it efa per hem.'''....''The guy left <u>because</u> he needed to go somewhere.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeta</u> texyen so fia.'''....''<u>Anyone</u>'s opinion will be fine.'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> dyes se his?'''....''Whose book is this?'' ::* '''<u>Bi hoti</u> se hia dyesi?'''....''Whose are these books?'' ::* '''<u>Hyata</u> tili yebexe yom.'''....''<u>Everyone's</u> drinks contain ice.'' ::* '''Et se gaj <u>geyenat</u>( ~ <u>hyiyenat</u>).'''....''You are still <u>the same kind of person</u>.'' ::* '''At se <u>hoogla iva van</u> et upa!'''....''I am <u>so happy that</u> you came!'' ::* '''Yat tose <u>hyigla (van)</u> yet.'''....''We feel <u>(the same way) as</u> you (do).'' : Note, '''hyigla''' can be replaced with '''gel''': ::* '''Yet tose <u>gel</u> yet.'''....''We feel <u>as</u> you do.'' : The semantic reverser '''o-''' can be prefixed to some of the above deictic determiners: :: '''<u>Ohyat</u> tiste Platon.'''....''<u>Not everyone</u> understands Plato.'' :: '''<u>Ohut!</u>'''....''Not that person!'' :: '''At iyfe gwa apovili, oy <u>ohuas</u>!'''....''I like most beers, but <u>not that one</u>!'' : If the definite article or any other deictic determiner is omitted before a noun, then it has the effect of the English indefinite article ''a / an'' with a singular noun or ''some'' with a plural noun. For example: ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ha tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>a glass</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ha tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>(some) glasses</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>awa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>one glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha awa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the one glass</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>two glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the two glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>hyaewa tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>both glasses</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>owa tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>no/zero glasses (=not a single glass)</u> of wine.'' ::* '''Yat tilia <u>ea tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>another/a second glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ea tilyeb</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the second glass</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ea tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>second glasses</u> of wine.'', vs. ::** '''Yat tilia <u>ha ea tilyebi</u> bi vifil.'''....''We drank <u>the second glasses</u> of wine.'' : If an indefinite article sense is needed for clarity, the words '''awa''' (''one'') or '''hea''' (''some, a certain'') can be used, eg.: ::* '''At igteata <u>awa</u> tob yiztyoper.'''....''I glimpsed <u>a</u> man walk by.'' ::* '''Wit zoyupo <u>hea</u> jub.'''....''He will come back <u>a / a certain / some</u> day.'' ==== Selective vs. Non-Selective Forms ==== : The deictic interrogative determiner pronoun '''duhot?''' means ''who(m)'' and contrasts with its '''''selective''''' counterpart '''duhoat?''', which means ''which one?''. All the selective determiners refer to one or more things or persons from a selectable pool of things or persons. : The following sentences illustrate the use of the above determiner pronouns: ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> aka zajuba ek?'''....''<u>Who</u> won yesterday's game?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoat</u> bi ha akuti sa ha gwa fiat?'''....''<u>Which one</u> of the winners was the best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhota</u> tam se hus?'''....''<u>Whose</u> house is that?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotas</u> se hus?'''....''<u>Whose</u> is that?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotia</u> deuzi et gaife?'''....''<u>Whose</u> songs do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Duhotias</u> et gaife?'''....''<u>Whose</u> do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* '''<u>Duhosi</u> se eta gaifuni?'''....''<u>What</u> are your preferences?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoa</u> deuzi se eta gwa fiasi?'''....''<u>Which</u> songs are your best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoasi</u> se eta gwa fiasi?'''....''<u>Which ones</u> are your best?'' ::* '''Bi hia deuzuti, <u>hoat</u> et gaife?'''....''Of these vocalists, <u>which one</u> do you prefer?'' ::* '''<u>Hiiti</u> yaneko hijub.'''....''<u>The following people</u> will compete today.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoati</u> se gwa fia?'''....''<u>Which ones</u> are best?'' ::* '''<u>Duhoti</u> et teexe gwa jodi?'''....''<u>Who (all)</u> do you listen to the most often?'' ::* '''<u>Hoat</u> at teexe gwaxag draye ejna deuz.'''....''<u>The one</u> I listen to the most has written a new song.'' ::* '''Ejna deuz? At voy teste <u>hoas</u> et tede.'''....''New song? I don't understand <u>which one</u> you mean.'' ::* '''<u>Hias</u>.'''....''<u>This one</u>.'' ::* '''Vo. <u>Huasi</u> se ga fia.'''....''No. <u>Those</u> are better.'' ::* '''<u>His</u> se jub av ivxelen.'''....''<u>This</u> is a day for celebration.'' ::* '''Va. <u>Hia</u> jub. At tese <u>hi</u>jub.'''....''Yes. <u>This</u> day. I mean <u>To-</u>day.'' ::* '''<u>Husi</u> sa <u>ha</u> jubi, ata dat!'''....''<u>Those</u> were <u>the</u> days, my friend!'' ::* '''<u>Duhos</u> se eta dyun?'''....''<u>What</u> is your name?'' ::* '''<u>Duhot</u> aka ha igpek?'''....''<u>Who</u> won the race?'' ::* '''<u>Hyas</u> uja fi.'''....''<u>Everything</u> ended well.'' ::* '''<u>Hyasi</u> uje.'''....''<u>All things</u> come to an end.'' ::* '''<u>Hyayenasi</u> vey kyesu.'''....''<u>All sorts of things</u> might happen.'' ::* '''<u>Hyos</u> yokxa at.'''....''<u>Nothing</u> surprised me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyot</u> ta hot ako.'''....''<u>Nobody</u> knew who would win.'' ::* '''<u>Hoayti</u> fu pier yefe.'''....''<u>Those females</u> who would like to leave may.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> yefe eker hia ifek.'''....''<u>Anyone</u> can play this game.'' ::* '''<u>Huyenasi</u> voy afwo.'''....''<u>Such things</u> will not be permitted.'' ::* '''<u>Hua twob</u> voy taxe hia toyb.'''....''<u>That</u> man does not remember this woman.'' ::* '''<u>Hwuti</u> yanyexe fi.'''....''<u>Those guys</u> work well together.'' ::* '''<u>Huuyti</u> hyaj yubixe tepzex.'''....''<u>Such females</u> always attract attention.'' ::* '''At jay teataye <u>hiyenasi</u>.'''....''I've seen <u>such things</u> before.'' ::* '''<u>Huyenwat</u> voy vabiwu.'''....''<u>A guy like that</u> would not be accepted.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoyenasi</u> weti iyfe xer je ha maj.'''....''<u>What kinds of things</u> do you guys like to do during the day?'' === Numerical Deictic Determiners === : Sometimes, a deictic determiner specifies numerical information. This chart shows those forms: :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller;" |+ Number-incorporating Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! Adjective !! Inanimate Pronoun !! Animate Pronoun !! Pronominal Determiner !! Possessive Pronoun |- | '''hawa'''<sup>1</sup><br> ''the only'' || '''hawas'''<br>''the only thing''<br>'''hawasi'''<br>''the only things'' || '''hawat'''<br>''the only one (person)''<br>'''hawati'''<br>''the only ones''|| '''hawata'''<br>''the only person&apos;s'' || '''hawatas'''<br>''the only one&apos;s''<br>'''hawatasi'''<br>''the only one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyawa'''*<br> ''each'' || '''hyawas'''<br>''each one'' || '''hyawat'''<br>''each person''|| '''hyawata'''<br>''each person&apos;s'' || '''hyawatas'''<br>''each one&apos;s''<br>'''hyawatasi'''<br>''each one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyaewa'''<br>''both'' || '''hyaewasi'''<br>''both (<small>things</small>)'' || '''hyaewati'''<br>''both (<small>people</small>)''|| '''bi hyaewati'''<br>''both person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyaewati'''<br>''both person&apos;s''<br>'''hasi bi hyaewati'''<br>''both persone&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyaiwa'''<br>''all three'' || '''hyaiwasi'''<br>''all three (<small>things</small>)'' || '''hyaiwati'''<br>''all three (<small>people</small>)''|| '''hyaiwata'''<br>''all three person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyaiwati'''<br>''all three person&apos;s''<br>'''hasi bi hyaiwati'''<br>''all three person&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''ohyawa'''<br>''not every'' || '''ohyawas'''<br>''not everything'' || '''ohyawat'''<br>''not everyone''|| '''ohyawata'''<br>''not every person&apos;s'' || '''ohyawatas'''<br>''not everyone&apos;s''<br>'''ohyawatasi'''<br>''not everyone&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyoawa'''<br>''not a single'' || '''hyoawas'''<br>''not a single thing'' || '''hyoawat'''<br>''not a single person''|| '''hyowata'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s'' || '''hyowatas'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s''<br>'''hyowatasi'''<br>''not a single person&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyeawa'''<br>''either'' || '''hyeawas'''<br>''either one'' || '''hyeawat'''<br>''either one (<small>person</small>)''|| '''hyeawata'''<br>''either one&apos;s'' || '''hyeawatas'''<br>''either one&apos;s''<br>'''hyeawatasi'''<br>''either one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyeewa'''<br>''any two'' || '''hyeewasi'''<br>''any two things'' || '''hyeewati'''<br>''any two people''|| '''bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two person&apos;s'' || '''has bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two persons&apos;''<br>'''hasi bi hyeewati'''<br>''any two persons&apos; (things)'' |- | '''hyeowa'''<br>''neither'' || '''hyeowas'''<br>''neither one'' || '''hyeowat'''<br>''neither person''|| '''hyeawata'''<br>''neither person&apos;s'' || '''hyeowatas'''<br>''neither one&apos;s''<br>'''hyeowatasi'''<br>''neither one&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyuawa'''<br>''another'' || '''hyuawas'''<br>''another one'' || '''hyuawat'''<br>''another''|| '''hyuawata'''<br>''another&apos;s'' || '''hyuawatas'''<br>''another&apos;s''<br>'''hyuawatasi'''<br>''another&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''hyuowa'''<br>''no other'' || '''hyuowas'''<br>''nothing else'' || '''hyuowat'''<br>''nobody else''|| '''hyuowata'''<br>''no other&apos;s'' || '''hyuowatas'''<br>''no other&apos;s''<br>'''hyuowatasi'''<br>''no other&apos;s (things)'' |- | '''gawa'''<sup>2</sup><br>''another'' || '''gawas'''<br>''another one'' || '''gawat'''<br>''another (person)''|| '''gawata'''<br>''another&apos;s'' || '''gawatas'''<br>''another&apos;s''<br>'''gawatasi'''<br>''another&apos;s (things)'' |} <small> :: Note 1) '''Hawa''' and '''hyawa''' are short for '''haawa''' and '''hyaawa''', respectively. :: Note 2) '''Gawa''' is short for '''ga awa''', ''yet one''. </small> ==== Notes on Numerical Deictic Determiners ==== : Examples using the above number-incorporating deictic determiners: ::* '''<u>Ohyawat</u> se iva bay eta vaod.'''....''<u>Not everyone</u> is happy with your decision.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaewasi</u> yafwe uxler yata efoni.'''....''<u>Both (things)</u> can serve our needs.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeawa</u> tim ivlaxo at.'''....''<u>Either</u> room will satisfy me.'' ::* '''<u>Hyeowas</u> oivlaxo at.'''....''<u>Neither one</u> will dissatisfy me.'' : Note: ::* '''hyua''' means ''another (an alternative)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hyua</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>another (a different)</u> drink.'' ::* '''hyuawa''' means ''another (an additional)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hyuawa</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>another (an additional)</u> drink.'' ::* '''hahyua''' means ''the other (the alternative)''. Ex. '''At fu <u>hahyua</u> til.'''....''I would like <u>the other</u> drink.'' ::* '''hohyua'''....''what other (relative)''. Ex. '''Bexlu hohyua suni at lobexa av et.'''....''Keep what other things I left for you.'' ::* '''hehyua'''....''some other'' ::* '''duhohyua'''....''what other, which other'' ::* '''hihyua'''....''this other'' ::* '''huhyua'''....''that other'' ::* '''hyahyua'''....''all other, any other, each other'' ::* '''hyehyua'''....''any other, whatever other'' ::* '''hyohyua'''....''no other'' : Similarly, '''hya''' means ''every, all'', while '''hyawa''' means ''each'', and '''hyaha'''....''all the'', ex: ::* '''<u>Hya</u> dom ayse tebixea suni teaxer.'''....''<u>Every</u> city has interesting things to see.'' ::* '''<u>Hya</u> domi ayse tebixusi.'''....''<u>All</u> cities have things of interest.'' ::* '''<u>Hyaha</u> domi ayse tebixusi.'''....''<u>All the</u> cities have things of interest.'' ::* '''<u>Hyawa</u> dom ayse tebixun.'''....''<u>Each</u> city has something of interest.'' : Also, '''ha''' means ''the'', while '''hawa''' means ''the only'', eg.: ::* '''<u>Ha</u> twob hu at gwa ife se et.'''....''<u>The</u> man I most love is you.'' ::* '''<u>Hawa</u> toyb nazea ata tepzex se et.'''....''<u>The only</u> woman worth my attention is you.'' : By appending '''y''' to '''hawa''', we get the adverb '''haway'''....''only, solely'', eg; ::* '''<u>Haway</u> et nize ata tepzex.'''....''<u>Only</u> you deserve my attention.''. : The singular person pronouns in the above chart can be converted into pronominal determiners by adding the adjective suffix '''a''', eg.: ::* '''<u>Hyawata</u> tej se ge glatesa vyel hyutas.'''....''<u>Each one's</u> life is as important as another's.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoewata</u> dyun se vyama.'''....''<u>Neither person's</u> name is real.'' : However, the plural person pronouns in the above chart use the preposition '''bi''' (''of'') to form possessives, eg.: ::* '''Ha teji <u>bi hyaiwati</u> se kyebukuwa.'''....''The lives <u>of all three</u> are in danger.'' : The above singular pronominal determiners can, in turn, be converted into inanimate pronouns with the suffix '''-s'''. ::* '''<u>Hyawatas</u> se glatesa.'''....''<u>Each one's</u> is important.'' ::* '''<u>Hyoewatas</u> se vyama.'''....''<u>Neither's</u> is real.'' : The plural pronominal determiners can be nominalized with the use of '''bi''', eg: ::* '''<u>Hyaiwasi</u> <u>bi huti</u> se kyebukuwa.'''....''<u>All three</u> <u>of theirs'</u> are in danger.'' : Correlative Number-incorporating Deictic Determiners are handled as follows: ::* '''Hyeawa A ey B'''....''either A or B'' ::* '''Hyoewa A oy B'''....''neither A nor B'' ::* '''Hyaewa A ay B'''....''both A and B'' ::* '''Hawa A, voy B'''....''only A, not B'' ==== Different Ways of Expressing ''How'' ==== : The different, somewhat confusing, meanings of ''how'' are illustrated here: ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> wit xa hus?'''....''<u>How</u> did he do that?''.... (Equivalent to '''Be duhobyen...?'''....''In what way...?'') (ADVERB OF MANNER) ::* '''<u>Duhoyen</u> et xeye?'''....''<u>How</u> are you doing?''.... (This is the normal way of saying ''How are you?'' or ''How do you do?'' (ADVERB OF MANNER) ::* '''<u>Duhoyena</u> sa ha dyezun?'''....'' <u>How</u> was the film?''.... (''How'' here is an ADJECTIVE OF KIND, and thus ends in '''-a'''.) ::* '''<u>Duhonog (= Duhogla)</u> aga it se?'''....''<u>How</u> big is he?''.... (ADVERB OF DEGREE) ::* '''<u>Huunog (= Huugla)</u> iyfla et se!'''....''<u>How</u> nice you are!''.... (ADVERB OF EMPHATIC DEGREE) : The conjunction ''as'' is expressed most often using relative pro-adverbs of manner: ::* '''Xu <u>hoyen</u> at de.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I say.'' = (in) the way that... ::* '''Xu <u>hyiyen</u>''' (~ '''geyen''') '''at xe.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I do. ( = (in) the same way that...)'' ::* '''Xu <u>hiiyen</u>:'''....''Do <u>as follows</u>. ( = (in) this hereby manner...)'' : However, the preposition/conjunction '''gel''' (''like, as'') can be substituted: ::* '''Xu <u>gel</u> at de.'''....''Do <u>as</u> I say.'' ==== Introducing Relative Clauses with Adverbial Determiners ==== : Many of the determiner adverbs in the above chart can be used in relative clauses, eg: ::* '''At teato et <u>hoj</u> et puo him.'''....''I will see you <u>when</u> you get here.'' ::* '''It xa has <u>avhos van</u> it tosa yefa.'''....''He/she did it <u>because (for the reason that)</u> he/she felt compelled.'' ::* '''<u>Hyem</u> et po, et so ga iva.'''....''<u>Wherever</u> you go, you'll be happier.'' ::* '''<u>Hyet</u> te ha did, yabu eta tuyab.'''....''<u>Whoever</u> knows the answer, raise your hand.'' ::* '''At voy te <u>hoyen</u> et xa is.'''....''I don't know <u>how</u> you did it.'' : See more about this in the section on [[Mirad_Grammar/Syntax#Relative_Clauses|relative clauses under Syntax]]. === Pronominal Deictic Determiners === : Some words in Mirad incorporate deictic prefixes with pronouns and pronominal adjectives, as shown in the following chart: {{small/top}} :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size;smaller;" |+ Pronominal Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! colspan=3 | Pronoun |- ! 1st Person Plural !! 2nd Person Plural !! 3rd Person Plural |- | '''duhoyat'''<br>''which of us'' || '''duhoyet'''<br>''which of you'' || '''duhoyit'''<br>''which of them'' |- | '''heyat'''<br>''some of us'' || '''heyet'''<br>''some of you'' || '''heyit'''<br>''which of them'' |- | '''hyayat'''<br>''each of us'' || '''hyayet'''<br>''each of you'' || '''hyayit'''<br>''each of them'' |- | '''hyeyat'''<br>''any of us'' || '''hyeyet'''<br>''any of you'' || '''hyeyit'''<br>''any of them'' |- | '''hyoyat'''<br>''none of us'' || '''hyoyet'''<br>''none of you'' || '''hyoyit'''<br>''none of them'' |- ! colspan=3 | Pronominal Adjective |- ! 1st Person (Plural) !! 2nd Person (Plural) !! 3rd Person (Plural) |- | '''duhoyata'''<br>''which of our'' || '''duhoyet'''<br>''which of your'' || '''duhoyita'''<br>''which of their'' |- | '''heyata'''<br>''some of our'' || '''heyeta'''<br>''some of your'' || '''heyita'''<br>''which of their'' |- | '''hyayata'''<br>''each of our'' || '''hyayeta'''<br>''each of your'' || '''hyayita'''<br>''each of their'' |- | '''hyeyata'''<br>''any of our'' || '''hyeyeta'''<br>''any of your'' || '''hyeyita'''<br>''any of their'' |- ! colspan=3 | Singular/(Plural) Possessive Pronoun |- ! 1st Person (Plural) !! 2nd Person (Plural) !! 3rd Person (Plural) |- | '''duhoyatas(i)'''<br>''which of ours'' || '''duhoyetas(i)'''<br>''which of yours'' || '''duhoyitas(i)'''<br>''which of theirs'' |- | '''heyatas(i)'''<br>''some of ours'' || '''heyetas(i)'''<br>''some of yours'' || '''heyitas(i)'''<br>''which of theirs'' |- | '''hyayatas(i)'''<br>''each of ours'' || '''hyayetas(i)'''<br>''each of yours'' || '''hyayitas(i)'''<br>''each of theirs'' |- | '''hyeyatas(i)'''<br>''any of ours'' || '''hyeyetas(i)'''<br>''any of yours'' || '''hyeyitas(i)'''<br>''any of theirs'' |- | '''hyoyatas(i)'''<br>''none of ours'' || '''hyoyetas(i)'''<br>''none of yours'' || '''hyoyitas(i)'''<br>''none of theirs'' |} {{small/end}} : The above possessive pronouns refer to things. If you replace the final '''-s''' or '''-si''', to '''-t''' or '''-ti''', then they become animate and refer to people, eg.: ::* '''Ese ewa tudi him. Duhoyitas se his?'''....''There are two children here. Which one of theirs is this?'' : All of the forms in the above chart can also be expressed as separate words, eg.: ::* '''Duhoyet?'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Duhoat bi yet?'''....''Which one of you?'' ::* '''Hyayat'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaglati bi yet'''....''All of us.'' ::* '''Hyoyatasi'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyogla yatasi'''....''All of ours (things)'' Note: ::* '''Awayat'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Awat bi yat'''....''one of us'' ::* '''Hyaewayet'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaewat bi yet'''....''both of you'' ::* '''Hyaiwayit'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>~</big>&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Hyaiwat bi yit'''....''all three of them'' === Quantitative Deictic Determiners === : The deictic prefixes can be combined with '''gla''' to form quantitative expressions acting as adverbial or adjectival determiners, and substantives (pronouns referring to things or people): {{small/top}} :{| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size;smaller;" |+ Quantitative Deictic Determiners |- valign=top ! !! Adverbial / Adjectival<br>Determiner !! Inanimate Singular<br>Pronoun !! Inanimate Plural <br>Pronoun !! Animate Plural<br>Pronoun |- !row=1|Interrogative | '''duhogla?'''<br>''how?/how much?/how many?'' || '''duhoglas?'''<br>''how much?'' || '''duhoglasi?'''<br>''how many'' || '''duhoglati?'''<br>''how many (people)?'' |- !row=1|Relative | '''hogla'''<br>''as many/much'' || '''hoglas'''<br>''how much'' || '''duhoglasi'''<br>''how many'' || '''duhoglati'''<br>''how many (as)'' |- !row=1|Definite | '''hagla'''<br>''how/as much/as many'' || '''haglas'''<br>''as much'' || '''haglasi'''<br>''as many'' || '''haglati'''<br>''as many (people)'' |- !row=1|Indefinite | '''hegla'''<br>''somewhat/some/some'' || '''heglas'''<br>''some'' || '''heglasi'''<br>''some'' || '''heglati'''<br>''some (people)'' |- !row=1|Proximal | '''higla'''<br>''this/this much/this many'' || '''higlas'''<br>''this much'' || '''higlasi'''<br>''this many'' || '''higlati'''<br>''this many (people)'' |- !row=1|Distal | '''hugla'''<br>''that/that much/that many'' || '''huglas'''<br>''that much'' || '''huglasi'''<br>''that many'' || '''huglati'''<br>''that many (people)'' |- !row=1|Intensive | '''huugla'''<br>''so very, so much, so many'' || '''huuglas'''<br>''so much'' || '''huuglasi'''<br>''so many'' || '''huuglati'''<br>''so many (people)'' |- !row=1|Negative | '''hyogla'''<br>''none, not very'' || '''hyoglas'''<br>''none of it'' || '''hyoglasi'''<br>''none of them '' || '''hyoglati'''<br>''none'' |- !row=1|Distributive | '''hyagla'''<br>''totally/all/all'' || '''hyaglas'''<br>''all of it'' || '''hyaglasi'''<br>''all of them'' || '''hyaglati'''<br>''all'' |- !row=1|Indeterminate | '''hyegla'''<br>''however/any/any'' || '''hyeglas'''<br>''any of it'' || '''hyeglasi'''<br>''any of them'' || '''hyeglati'''<br>''any number of them'' |- !row=1|Identical | '''hyigla'''<br>''as/as much/as many, equally'' || '''hyiglas'''<br>''the same amount'' || '''hyiglasi'''<br>''the same number'' || '''hyiglati'''<br>''as many (people)'' |- !row=1|Non-identical | '''hyugla'''<br>''not as much/not as much/not as many'' || '''hyuglas'''<br>''a different amount'' || '''hyuglasi'''<br>''a different number of things'' || '''hyuglati'''<br>''a different number of people'' |} {{Small/end}} : Here are some examples showing how these quantitative determiners are used: ::* '''Et deuze <u>huugla</u> fi.'''....''You sing <u>so</u> well.'' ::* '''At se <u>hegla</u> booka.'''....''I am <u>somewhat</u> tired.'' ::* '''<u>Duhogla</u> pati et teata hijub?'''....''<u>How many</u> birds did you see today?'' ::* '''At teata vyavay <u>hugla</u> tami.'''....''I saw exactly <u>that many</u> houses.'' ::* '''Iyt fe <u>hyiglas</u> vyel et.'''....''She wants <u>the same amount</u> as you.'' ::* '''<u>Duhoglati</u> yantexe yet?'''....''<u>How many (people)</u> agree with you?'' ::* '''<u>Hyoglati</u> yantexe.'''....''<u>None</u> agree.'' ::* '''Yit fu <u>heglasi</u>.'''....''They would like <u>some (of them)</u>.'' ::* '''Et yafe bier <u>hyeglasi</u> et fe.'''....''You can take <u>however many</u> you want.'' ::* '''Besu bay at <u>hogla</u> job et fe.'''....''Stay <u>as</u> long with me as you want.'' ::* '''At se <u>huugla</u> booka.'''....''I am <u>so</u> tired.'' : NOTE: The following determiners are synonymous and interchangeable: ::* '''hegla''' = '''gle''' = '''henog''' (''somewhat, to some degree'') ::* '''hyigla''' = '''ge''' = '''hyinog''' (''as, equally, to the same degree'') : The determiner ''huugla'' can be used as an exclamatory adverb, eg.: ::* '''<u>Huugla</u> et agsaye!'''....''<u>How</u> you have grown!'' ::* '''Hua twob jagsaye <u>huugla</u>!'''....''That man has aged <u>so much</u>!'' ::* '''Hia jotul se <u>huugla</u> fiteluza!'''....''This dessert is <u>sooo</u> delicious!'' == Pronominal Determiners == : Pronominal Determiners are what are more often called '''''possessive adjectives''''' such as ''my'' or ''your'' and are discussed in a subsection of [[Mirad Grammar/Pronouns#Pronominal Determiners|Pronouns]]. == Quantitative Determiners == : '''''Quantitative determiners''''' act in one of several ways, they: ::* specify mass, uncountable, singular nouns for relative AMOUNT, eg. ''much happiness, less work'' ::* specify countable nouns for relative NUMBER, eg. ''one apple, two birds, many places'' ::* specify adverbs, adjectives, and verbs for relative DEGREE, eg. ''how poorly, very good, eat too much''. : From these, pronominalized quantitative determiners for PERSONS and THINGS can be derived. ::* Inanimate singular pronouns are formed by adding '''s''' for AN AMOUNT OF A THING ::* Inanimate plural pronouns are formed by adding '''si''' for A NUMBER OF THINGS ::* Animate plural pronouns are formed by adding '''ti''' for A NUMBER OF PERSONS. : The following table presents most of these word forms (Note that the determiners are in a plus (+), equal (=), or minus (-) row.): {| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; margin-left:1.6em; font-size:smaller;" |+ Quantitative Determiners |- !colspan=2|Adverb / Adjective !! Singular Pronoun !!colspan=2| Plural Pronoun |- !colspan=2|Degree/Amount/Number !! Amount !! Number of Things !! Number of People |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''ga'''....''more'' || '''gas'''....''more (stuff)'' || '''gasi'''....''many (things)'' || '''gati'''....''many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''ge'''....''as, as much, as many'' || '''ges'''....''as much (stuff)'' || '''gesi'''....''as many (things)'' || '''geti'''....''as many people'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''go'''....''less, fewer'' || '''gos'''....''less (stuff)'' || '''gosi'''....''fewer (things)'' || '''goti'''....''fewer (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gla'''....''very, much, many''<br>'''glay'''....''so, so much, so many''<br>'''glaa'''....''several'' || '''glas'''....''much (stuff)''<br>'''glays'''....''so much stuff'') || '''glasi'''....''many (things)''<br>'''glaysi'''....''so many (things)''<br>'''glaasi'''....''several things''|| '''glati'''....''many (people)''<br>'''glayti'''....''so many (people)''<br>'''glaati'''....''several people'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gle'''....''rather, quite a lot, quite a few'' || '''gles'''....''quite a lot (of stuff)'' || '''glesi'''....''quite a lot (of things)'' || '''gleti'''....''quite a few (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''glo'''....''slightly, a little, few'' || '''glos'''....''a little bit'' || '''glosi'''....''a few (things)'' || '''gloti'''....''few (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gra'''....''too, too much, too many'' || '''gras'''....''too much (stuff)'' || '''grasi'''....''too many (things)'' || '''grati'''....''too many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gre'''....''enough'' || '''gres'''....''enough (stuff)'' || '''gresi'''....''enough (things)'' || '''greti'''....''enough (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''gro'''....''insufficiently, too little, too few'' || '''gros'''....''too little'' || '''grosi'''....''too few'' || '''groti'''....''too few (people)'' |- !colspan=2| !! !! !! |- !row=1|<big>+</big> | '''gwa'''....''most'' || '''gwas'''....''the most (stuff)'' || '''gwasi'''....''the most (things)'' || '''gwati'''....''most people'' |- !row=1|<big>=</big> | '''gwe'''....''just so (much/many)'' || '''gwes'''....''just so much'' || '''gwesi'''....''just so many'' || '''gweti'''....''just so many (people)'' |- !row=1|<big>-</big> | '''gwo'''....''least'' || '''gwos'''....''the least (stuff)'' || '''gwosi'''....''the least (number of)'' || '''gwoti'''....''the least number (of people)'' |} : Examples Using Graded Quantitative Determiners :: Adverbs of degree modifying an adjective: :::* '''At se <u>gla</u> iva.'''....''I am <u>very</u> happy.'' :::* '''Et sa <u>gra</u> uga.'''....''You were <u>too</u> slow.'' :: Adverbs of Degree modifying another adverb: :::* '''Twobi dale <u>ge</u> igay vyel toybi.'''....''Men talk <u>as</u> fast as women.'' :::* '''Yat yexe <u>ga igay</u> vyel yet.'''....''We work faster (= <u>more quickly</u>) than you.'' :: Adjectives quantifying a singular mass noun: :::* '''<u>Ga</u> nas efwo.'''....''<u>More</u> money will be needed.'' :::* '''<u>Gra</u> nas noxwa.'''....''<u>Too much</u> money was spent.'' :: Adjectives quantifying a plural countable noun (= things or people): :::* '''At ayse <u>gro</u> sari.'''....''I've got <u>too few</u> tools.'' :::* '''<u>Gla</u> tami osexwa.'''....''<u>Many</u> houses were destroyed.'' :::* '''Yat efe <u>gla ga</u> valkdibuti.'''....''We need <u>many more</u> policemen.'' :: Pronouns referring to a mass amount of something (= stuff): :::* '''<u>Gas</u> ilokeye.'''....''<u>More (stuff)</u> is leaking.'' :::* '''Et dileye <u>gras</u>.'''....''You are asking for <u>too much (stuff)</u>.'' :::* '''Yat kexo <u>gwas</u>.'''....''We will seek <u>as much (stuff) as possible</u>.'' :::* '''At iba <u>gwes</u>.'''....''I received <u>just the right amount.</u>'' :: Pronouns referring to a countable number of things: :::* '''Hisi se fia oy yat fe <u>gasi</u>.'''....''These (items) are good but we want <u>more (items)</u>.'' :::* '''At teate drilari oy <u>grosi</u>.'''....''I see pens, but <u>too few</u>.'' :: Pronouns referring to a countable number of people: :::* '''<u>Grati</u> xaye vyoki be hia yexem.'''....''<u>Too many (people)</u> have made mistakes at this work site.'' :::* '''<u>Glati</u> dyunwe oy <u>gloti</u> kebiwe.'''....''<u>Many</u> are called but <u>few</u> are chosen.'' == Numerical Determiners == : This category of determiners, which includes cardinal, ordinal and other number words like ''two'', ''a tenth'', and ''first'', is such a vast topic that it is treated in its own chapter [[Mirad_Grammar/Numbers]] <noinclude>{{Chapter navigation with TOC|Adverbs|Numbers}}</noinclude> gfp0kx9a4c7qjeenbsqd02cp6k1q783 Mirad Grammar/Why Mirad? 0 417864 4520801 4484928 2025-07-01T17:15:49Z Tyoyafud 6233 /* Taxonomy */ 4520801 wikitext text/x-wiki == Vocabulary Built on Native Roots == <noinclude>{{status|100%}}</noinclude> [[File:Santorin (GR), Kallistis, Kloster Profítis Ilías -- 2017 -- 2897.jpg|thumb|]] : In English, we have many words like ''ichthyology'', which baffle younger speakers of the language, because they are borrowed from a foreign language, in this case, classical Greek. This word, which could just as easily and more rationally be the Anglicized ''fishlore'', means the science of fish. If a word in English relates to fish, why is ''fish'' not a part of the word? Even for modern day Greeks to understand the word '''ιχθυολογία (ichthyologia)''', they have to know the ancient root '''ιχθύς (ichthys)''' for ''fish'', which has long been supplanted by the current word everyone uses, '''ψάρι (psari)'''. What I'm saying is that the vocabulary of English, as is the case in many other natural languages, is a hodgepodge of borrowings, irregular spellings, and words cobbled from obscure roots that have little recognizability for the average speaker. : While English is a melting pot of words, there are some languages that do less borrowing and less non-discriminate formation of words that do not associate with one another through some root or pattern. Icelandic, for example, does not borrow very much from other languages and its words are formed using roots familiar to speakers of that language. The Icelandic word for ''library'' is '''bokasafn''', which literally, is ''book collection ( = saving)''. Any child in that language knows what the word means immediately, because it is composed of root words that are obvious. The English word '''library''' makes sense only if you know the Latin roots '''libr-''' (''book'') and '''-ary''' (''place of''). : Arabic, by contrast, is a language that has a system of word-building based on a rational association of consonants and vowel patterns, such that most words relating to books and writing contain the three consonants '''k-t-b'''. Over the centuries, the system has been polluted with irregularities, but at least the consciousness of associations of words based on a root pattern is there and is still used today to coin new words. [[File:Ozgur bilgi logo 6.png|thumb|]] : In Turkish, the bulk of words having to do with ''knowledge'' contain the native root '''bil'''. Because of this, most of these words will be grouped on the same pages in a dictionary. For example: '''bildik''' ''known'', '''bildirim''' ''announcement'', '''bilecen''' ''know-it-all'', '''bilgi''' ''knowledge'', '''bilgili''' ''knowledgeable'', '''bilgin''' ''scholar'', etc. A word such as '''unknowability''' inevitably contains the root '''bil''' and can be learned fairly easily by a young student of the language. : Mirad has a vocabulary-building system with approximately 500 morphemes (word atoms or vocabulary building blocks) that are used to form derived words in the same sense family in accordance with a set of word-building rules. Words that are related semantically will share the same bulk of letters. For example, '''iva''' (''happy''), '''ivla''' (''glad''), and '''ivra''' (''delighted'') share the root morpheme '''iv-''' and differ only in one letter. The opposite of happy is derived by switching the vowel in the root morpheme from '''i''' to the negative counterpart '''u''', such that '''uva''' means ''sad''. Similarly, '''uvla''' (''woeful'') and '''uvra''' (''tragic'') are opposite counterparts to the extended '''iv-''' words. : In Mirad, every letter of a word has some semantic or grammatical function. All words are part of a system. If you know the word for ''to lengthen'', then you automatically know the word for ''to shorten''. The rules for deriving new words from existing words are consistent across the language. In Mirad, there is no such thing as irregular conjugation of verbs as in English ''write, wrote, written''. Nouns are pluralized in one way only across the board, unlike the multiple, unpredictable ways German and Arabic words are pluralized. Prepositions have one meaning, as contrasted with the multiple, inscrutable meanings of Russian or Latin prepositions. : Words in Mirad are pronounced as they are written, with no exceptions. One letter is used for one sound. Only Roman letters are used in the alphabet, and there are no pesky diacritics (accents). Word stress is regular. : What if we took this root association to the maximum degree and ensured that all words in a language were constructed on logical, associational, and regular principles with roots that are obvious to the learner? That would be the way Mirad does it. == Deriving Opposites by Vowel-switching == : A very simple principle in Mirad is that a good portion of the vocabulary can be guessed by the learner without looking up words in the dictionary. All descriptive adjectives can be changed to their opposite with a simple change of vowel. For example, if you know '''fia''' (''good''), then you automatically know '''fua''' (''bad''). This is possible by knowing the rule of contrastive vowels: '''i''' is a positive vowel and contrasts with '''u''', a negative vowel. Similarly, '''a''' contrasts with '''o''', so that the opposite of '''aza''' (''strong'') is--you guessed it--'''oza''' (''weak''). In fact, if you know that '''e''' is an intermediate vowel, then you understand that '''eza''' means ''moderate''. These simple principles of word-building mean that students of the language can cut down on their learning time by at least 50%. == Using Consonants and Vowels to Vary Domains == : Another principle is that the beginning and/or closing consonants of a word in Mirad give you clues as to the meaning. All sentient creatures have the final stem consonant '''t''', such that '''dat''' (''friend''), '''tot''' (''god''), '''at''' (''I''), '''tuzut''' (''artist''), and '''pit''' (''fish'') all refer to sentient creatures. The root stems of all words having to do with communication, begin with the letter '''d''', eg. '''der''' (''to say''), '''dud''' (''answer''), '''dyes''' (''book''), '''dal''' (''speech''), etc. The internal vowels of root stems very often indicate concepts such as ''sky'', ''land'', ''sea'' or ''up'' vs. ''down'', or ''zeroth'', ''first'', ''second'', or ''toward the speaker'' vs. ''away from the speaker'', and on and on. == Scalarization == : In English, as in many other languages, there was probably some attempt to associate words in this way. Take for example, the series ''sing'', ''sang'', ''sung'', ''song'', ''singer'', ''songstress'' or ''drip'', ''drop'', ''droop'', ''dribble''. More often than not, there is very little association among English words that are obviously distinguished by the one feature, '''''size''''', eg. ''mountain'', ''hill'', ''knob'', ''bump'', ''pimple''. In Mirad, these are all distinguished regularly by a scalarizing enumerative vowel. The Mirad days of the week are not a series of Roman- or Teutonic-related concepts, '''Moon-day''', '''Tiw&apos;s-day''', '''Woden&apos;s-day''', '''Thor&apos;s-day''', '''Freya&apos;s-day''', '''Saturn-day''', and '''Sun-day''', all of which are a matter of memorization by the child or student of the language. Mirad days of the week consist rather of a series of words numerically arranged "day-one, day-two, day-three, etc." This is actually the approach taken by quite a few natural languages like Portuguese. : The months, too, ought to be learned in 10 seconds, by knowing that an internal vowel of the root expresses the numerical order of the months. Again, there are some natural languages that do this. By knowing that '''jiab''' means '''month one, January''', then by knowing how to count in the language, the word for September can be readily deduced as '''ji<u>yu</u>b''' (''month <u>nine</u>'', '''yu''' being the number for ''9''). == Taxonomy == [[File:Biological classification L Pengo vflip.svg|thumb|]] : The formulaic language of chemistry is a pretty good likeness of Mirad. There is a world-recognized symbolic, taxonomic relationship between H<sub>2</sub>O and C<sub>2</sub>O. Similarly, in Mirad, the stem vowels of the names of animals indicate their primary habitat: air, land, sea, or combinations of these. Other combinations of letters indicate whether the animal is domestic, predatory, wild, etc. From then on, syllables taken from their Linnaeus classification are used. Likewise, with human and animal body terms, the stem vowel indicates location on the body, such as head, trunk, or limbs. Then another vowel delineates in a directional way where on the head: upper, middle, lower, and so forth. Just by looking at the word for a body part for the first time, by knowing the system, you can tell at least approximately that it is, say, a higher part of the leg. Color words are based on their position on nature's color spectrum. Governmental and courtly powerholders and other hierarchical elements are ranked by an ordinal vowel, eg. '''adeb''' (''emperor''), '''edeb''' (''monarch''), '''ideb''' (''prince''), '''udeb''' (''duke''), etc. The names of the planets are enumerated by their relative distance from the sun, so: '''<u>a</u>mer''' (planet <u>1</u> = Mercury), '''<u>e</u>mer''' (planet <u>2</u> = Mars), '''<u>i</u>mer''' (planet <u>3</u> = Earth), etc. Chemical element names are formed from their international abbreviation. == Mnemonics == Words in the language can be mnemonically associated to body terms by changing the initial domain consonant accordingly, so, while '''teb''' means ''head'', '''xeb''' in the '''x''' or ''work/action domain'' is ''boss'', '''deb''' in the social/political domain is ''leader'', etc. : The following chart shows in this mnemonic echoing in action, where the letters before '''-ub''' suggest the domain: <div style="font-size:smaller;"> ::{| class="wikitable" style="background: lightyellow" |+ Mnemonic Echoing |- ! DOMAIN !! WORD |- | human (body) || '''tub'''....''arm'' |- | work/action || '''xub'''....''subsidiary, branch'' |- | plants || '''fub'''....''limb, branch, bough(of a tree)'' |- | fish || '''pitub'''....''fin'' |- | birds || '''patub'''....''wing'' |- | animal || '''potub'''....''paw'' |- | land-sea animal || '''peitub'''....''flipper'' |- | shoe || '''tyoyafub'''....''(scuba-diving) flipper'' |- | vegetation || '''vub'''....''shoot, sprig, twig'' |- | society/politics || '''dub'''....''minister, department head'' |- | building || '''tomub'''....''wing (of a building)'' |- | land || '''mub'''....''promontory'' |- | river || '''mifub'''....''oar'' |- | things || '''sub'''....''ramification, offshoot'' |- | table || '''semub'''....''flap (of a table)'' |- | rotating things || '''zyufub'''....''rudder'' |- | flat || '''zyifub'''....''paddle'' |- | round || '''zyub'''....''lobe'' |} </div> == Conclusion == Mirad uses many different techniques to short-cut the difficulty of learning new words or recognizing terms. The vowels, consonants, mnemonics, scalarization, taxonomy and many other methods are used to make the vocabulary as rational and intuitive as possible. Unlike in most natural languages, words like ''snow'' and ''sleet'' are going to have sounds in common in Mirad. I have never found a language other than Mirad where the words for ''ice'', ''water'', and ''steam'' are derived from one another even though we know they are actually all H<sub>2</sub>O in different physical states. <noinclude> {{Chapter navigation with TOC|Introduction|Alphabet}}</noinclude> 174z0v7as17kqcy6483emii3jsg7jd5 Oberon/ETH Oberon/QEMUinstall 0 424076 4520884 4324937 2025-07-01T22:42:05Z PeterEasthope 660399 /* Testing and Troubleshooting */ Replaced "serial crossover" with "null modem". 4520884 wikitext text/x-wiki ==Installing ETH Oberon using the QEMU Hypervisor== This method has proven successful in installing ETH Oberon to a variety of laptop and desktop machines including a Micron Trek 2, AGP laptop. The instructions can be adapted to other virtual machines. After installation and configuration on a storage medium, the system can be used routinely on a native machine. Alternatively, use can continue on the virtual machine. In the native case, a network connection will be over Ethernet or a serial crossover cable. In the virtual machine case, a network connection uses a [[w:TUN/TAP|TAP]] or [[w:Bridging_(networking)|bridge]] interface connected to the host system. ===Terminology=== '''Installation host''' is the machine where installation is performed using the hypervisor.<br> '''Target machine''' is the machine where ETH Oberon is to be used after installation is completed. This can be the bare x86 PC or a hypervisor presenting an x86 PC environment.<br> '''Target storage device''' or '''Target device''' is the [[w:Computer_data_storage|device]] where Oberon is to be installed and used. When ETH Oberon works on the hypervisor, any device it supports can be used. When ETH Oberon works directly on the bare machine, devices are limited to available device drivers. Consequently, for ETH Oberon on the bare machine, a disk drive or Compact Flash card connected by [[w:Parallel_ATA|PATA]] or a USB flash store connected by [[w:Host_controller_interface_%28USB,_Firewire%29#Open_Host_Controller_Interface_2|OHCI]] will work. With ETH Oberon lacking drivers for [[w:Serial_ATA|SATA]], [[w:Host_controller_interface_(USB,_Firewire)#UHCI|UHCI]], [[w:Host_controller_interface_(USB,_Firewire)#Enhanced_Host_Controller_Interface|EHCI]] and [[w:Extensible_Host_Controller_Interface|xHCI]], devices with these interfaces will not work on the bare machine. QEMU supports most devices.<br> '''Target [[w:Volume_(computing)|volume]]''' is a volume of a partitioned target device. ===Generalities=== To illustrate, the following example refers to [[w:QEMU|QEMU]] running on Linux with installer /home/me/OberonCF0.Dsk. Device names are illustrative. Do not attempt to use an example verbatim. Adapt to your requirement. In the installation host, the target device has a name such as /dev/sdX where X is "b" or "c" or some other letter. Alternatively, it might have a SYMLINK name assigned with a udev rule. A name such as /dev/KingstonCF for example. <ref>A device name assigned by the Linux kernel, such as /dev/sdc, can change with rebooting. This will be inconvenient if booting a system on a hypervisor repeatedly. A name assigned by udev or systemd should be stable.</ref> KERNEL=="sd?", ATTR{size}=="1018080", SYMLINK+="KingstonCF" Where [[w:Systemd|systemd]] is used, the name can be assigned by a systemd [https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.link.html .link file]. The Oberon0 installer uses [[w:Parallel_ATA|PATA]] device names. A target device may be IDE0 with target volume IDE0#05. Again, these are examples only. In another case, the device can be IDE1 with volume IDE1#02.<br> '''CAUTION''': a typographical error in the device identifier can allow catastrophic damage to the file system of the installation host. Identify devices carefully. Type carefully. ===Hardware=== Specific hardware is addressed in the [[../hcl|Hardware Compatibility List]]. If the target machine is not the installation host, move the target device to the installation host. In most cases the target device will connect via a 40 or 44 conductor ribbon cable. A 44 pin laptop drive can be connected to a desktop machine using an adapter. ETH Oberon has limited support for USB and the installation may not succeed for a USB target device. That includes a [[w:USB flash drive|USB flash drive]] and a disk drive or [[w:memory card|memory card]] connected by a USB adapter. ===Storage=== In this installation method, ETH Oberon requires a dedicated target volume of the target device. In Linux, a volume can be created with [[w:Fdisk|fdisk]], [[w:GNU_Parted|parted]] or [[w:GParted|gparted]]. In other systems, other disk manipulators are available. For the complete stock ETH Oberon system on a PC, at least 50 [[w:Byte#Multiple-byte_units|MiB]] should be allocated; 100 MiB will simplify operations during installation and maintenance. Typically, user specific working files will be in a separate volume [[../betadocu#OFS|mounted]] with a name such as FAT, HOME, usr or WORK. {| class="wikitable" |+ |- ! Installation<br>Package ! Zip archive<br>kB ! Unzipped<br>kB |- | Oberon0<ref>Oberon0 is a base system rather than package.</ref> | style="text-align: right;" | 1475<ref>Diskette image rather than zip archive.</ref> | style="text-align: right;" | 2667&#160;&#160;&#160; |- | Apps1 | style="text-align: right;" | 800&#160;&#160;&#160; | style="text-align: right;" | 2304&#160;&#160;&#160; |- | Apps2 | style="text-align: right;" | 1015&#160;&#160;&#160; | style="text-align: right;" | 2849&#160;&#160;&#160; |- | Docu | style="text-align: right;" | 2770&#160;&#160;&#160; | style="text-align: right;" | 6118&#160;&#160;&#160; |- | Gadgets | style="text-align: right;" | 1086&#160;&#160;&#160; | style="text-align: right;" | 2914&#160;&#160;&#160; |- | Pr3fonts | style="text-align: right;" | 205&#160;&#160;&#160; | style="text-align: right;" | 655&#160;&#160;&#160; |- | Pr6fonts | style="text-align: right;" | 375&#160;&#160;&#160; | style="text-align: right;" | 1877&#160;&#160;&#160; |- | Source1 | style="text-align: right;" | 1012&#160;&#160;&#160; | style="text-align: right;" | 4000&#160;&#160;&#160; |- | Source2 | style="text-align: right;" | 779&#160;&#160;&#160; | style="text-align: right;" | 3245&#160;&#160;&#160; |- | Source3 | style="text-align: right;" | 841&#160;&#160;&#160; | style="text-align: right;" | 3559&#160;&#160;&#160; |- | Build | style="text-align: right;" | 920&#160;&#160;&#160; | style="text-align: right;" | 2364&#160;&#160;&#160; |- | SourceB | style="text-align: right;" | 189&#160;&#160;&#160; | style="text-align: right;" | 727&#160;&#160;&#160; |- | System | style="text-align: right;" | 633&#160;&#160;&#160; | style="text-align: right;" | 1735&#160;&#160;&#160; |- ! Totals ! style="text-align: right;" | 12100&#160;&#160;&#160; ! style="text-align: right;" | 35014&#160;&#160;&#160; |} === Display === By direct inspection or by using software, determine the display capabilities of the target machine. In Linux, lspci identifies most video hardware. In addition to the video chipset, knowledge of the [[w:VESA_BIOS_Extensions|VESA BIOS Extensions]] can be helpful. ===Hypervisor=== Install QEMU on the host where the installation process is to be performed. Complete system emulation is used. In Debian jessie install the [https://packages.debian.org/jessie/qemu-system-x86 qemu-system-x86 package]. ===Installer Image=== Retrieve an Oberon0 installer image file from [https://sourceforge.net/projects/nativeoberon/files/nativeoberon/Oberon0%20boot%20disk/ Sourceforge]. OberonCF0.Dsk includes support for [[w:Compact_Flash|Compact Flash]] and is recommended. Oberon0.Dsk, also there, is the last image published at ETH. It lacks support for CF; otherwise the two images are identical. ===Installer Execution=== Start the installer. Access to drives requires root authority. Log in as root or use [[w:Sudo|sudo]].<br> CAUTION: "sdc" and "KingstonCF" are illustrative. [[#Generalities|Adjust]] according to your specific requirement. This command is for root executing the installer image in file OberonCF0.Dsk. qemu-system-i386 \ -drive file=/home/me/OberonCF0.Dsk,if=floppy,format=raw \ -drive file=/dev/KingstonCF,if=ide,format=raw \ -boot order=a This for a real diskette, write-protected. qemu-system-i386 \ -drive file=/dev/fd0,if=floppy,format=raw,readonly \ -drive file=/dev/KingstonCF,if=ide,format=raw \ -boot order=a Risk of damage to a file system in the installation host is mitigated by QEMU restricting access to devices specified in the qemu command. Refer to the QEMU manual page in the installation host or [https://man.archlinux.org/man/qemu.1.en online] or to the [http://wiki.qemu.org/Manual QEMU manual]. Access to a host drive is also discussed in a [https://documentation.suse.com/sles/12-SP4/html/SLES-all/cha-qemu-guest-inst.html Linux Suse page]. If "format=raw" is omitted, QEMU will produce an error message. Trial and error may be necessary to establish correct parameters. A shell function can be helpful. etho () { qemu-system-i386 \ -drive file=/home/me/OberonCF0.Dsk,if=floppy,format=raw \ -drive file=/dev/KingstonCF,if=ide,format=raw \ -boot order=a ; } ===Oberon0 Installer Usage=== [[File:Oberon0UnderQEMU.png|thumb|The Oberon0 installer after executing <code>Partitions.Show detail ~</code>. Oberon0 is running on a virtual x86 PC provided by QEMU in Debian Wheezy. <ref>This screenshot is from a configured and bootable system. An asterisk marks the boot part, IDE0#05.</ref>]] Oberon0 will present a sequence of commands, each of which can be executed with a click of the middle mouse button. Text is selected by dragging with the right mouse button. Consult the [[../install|original installation instructions]] for details. ==== 1. Select a disk driver ... ==== MM on Config.Disk for chosen driver. ==== 2. Select and prepare the partition: ==== Open InstallFiles.Tool with MM on Edit.Open. Type the option "detail" and execute <code>Partitions.Show detail ~</code>. The intended target volume should be visible in the partition table displayed. In the present example the target volume is IDE0#05; not IDE0#00. Sensible [[w:Partition_type|type codes]] should appear in the fifth column. The type code for the whole target device and for each unallocated area will be "---". Any other volume should have a numerical type code. If "---" appears in the fifth column, the installer failed to read the [[w:Master_boot_record|partition table]] of the target device properly and successful installation will be impossible. In this case, exit QEMU, correct the problem and try again. ==== 3. Finish Configuration: ==== Open Configure.Tool with MM on Edit.Open. Choose a display mode according to the [[#Display|previously established]] information. If no chipset-specific driver is suitable, set a VESA mode. In case the chosen mode fails, another mode is easily tested. Record the configuration by following instructions in Part 2. To leave the installer, type and execute System.Quit or use <Ctrl>+<Alt>+<G> to release the mouse pointer and then use QEMU > Machine > Quit. ===Testing and Troubleshooting=== If the hypervisor (QEMU) supports the configured video, the newly installed system can be tested directly. qemu-system-i386 \ -drive file=/dev/KingstonCF,index=1,media=disk,format=raw \ -vga std -boot order=c Otherwise test in the target machine. If installation was successful and configuration was correct, ETH Oberon will appear momentarily. Otherwise, refer to [[Oberon/ETH Oberon/install#J|troubleshooting instructions]]. The discussion under [[../betadocu#PM|Partition management with Oberon]], subheading "Troubleshooting a boot problem with this command" is also relevant. To revise the video configuration, run QEMU again and mount the target volume. In this example MM on FileSystem.Mount DST AosFS IDE0#05 ~ MM on Edit.Open Configure.Tool try another Config.Display ... and MM on Config.BootPartition menu ~ again. If using VESA video, test again under the hypervisor. The BIOS might allow booting from a device other than the primary master. Where the drive is installed in the machine as IDE1 and is recognized in the installer as IDE0 the value for the BootVol config string can be edited when the machine boots. To troubleshoot a more difficult problem, record a trace in a file. qemu-system-i386 \ -hda file=/dev/KingstonCF,index=1,media=disk,format=raw \ -serial file:QemuOberonTrace \ -vga std -boot order=c,menu=on Boot option "menu=on" allows interaction. After grabbing the QEMU screen, set &#60;Scroll Lock&#62; and set these Trace config strings. TracePort=1 TraceBPS=115200 For additional details, refer to [[../WebConfig#Tracing|Tracing]]. The most powerful troubleshooting method is with a terminal connected by a [[w:Null modem|null modem]] adapter or cable. The terminal can be provided by the [[Oberon/ETH_Oberon#Telnet_Console|terminal emulator]] in a second Oberon system. If the installation host is not the target machine, replace the target device in the target machine and test again. ETH Oberon is a very robust software. With a little persistence it can run on almost any [[w:Intel_80386|i386]] or later PC. ===Additional Software=== Software beyond Oberon0 is distributed in [[w:Zip_(file_format)|Zip archive]] files Apps1.zip, Apps2.zip, Docu.zip, Gadgets.zip, Pr3Fonts.zip, Pr6Fonts.zip, Source1.zip, Source2.zip and Source3.zip. Also, for the specific task of rebuilding the system, files Build.zip, SourceB.zip and System.zip. For the Alpha release, all of these are in archive NativeOberon_2.3.7.tar.gz, available in [https://sourceforge.net/projects/nativeoberon/files/nativeoberon/Native%20Oberon%202.3.7%20Alpha/ Sourceforge]. In a Unix-like system, the following procedure will obtain these zip files. Commands are executed in a console. mkdir <somewhere>/Oberon2.3.7 Using any Web browser, retrieve NativeOberon_2.3.7.tar.gz, approximately 12 MiB, from Sourceforge into the Oberon2.3.7 directory. cd <somewhere>/Oberon2.3.7 # Confirm existence of the gz archive. ls # Unzip and untar. gunzip NativeOberon_2.3.7.tar.gz tar -xvf NativeOberon_2.3.7.tar # Read the ETH license. more readme.txt Copy all the zip files to the SYS volume of the Oberon system. A [[w:File_Allocation_Table|FAT]] [[w:File_system|file system]] on a [[w:CompactFlash|CompactFlash]] card,<ref>CF has the [[w:Parallel_ATA|ATA interface]] allowing [[w:CompactFlash#Description|connection to a PC via a plug adapter]]. The driver is implemented in [[Oberon/ETH_Oberon/ATADisks.Mod|ATADisks.Mod]].</ref> a [[w:USB flash drive|USB flash drive]] or a diskette can transfer the data. A more sophisticated method is to [[#Network_Connection_on_a_Virtual_Machine_Using_a_Bridge|establish a network connection]] and transfer the files by [[w:File_Transfer_Protocol|FTP]].<ref>While [[Oberon/ETH_Oberon/2.3.7/FTP.Mod|FTP.Mod]] and [[Oberon/ETH_Oberon/2.3.7/FTP.Tool|FTP.Tool]] are not in the base system from the Oberon0 installation, FTP.Obj is present. That provides FTP commands including FTP.Open.</ref> In Oberon, MM on these commands to unpack the archives into the SYS volume. FileSystem.SetDefault SYS ZipTool.ExtractAll Apps1.zip Apps2.zip Docu.zip Gadgets.zip Pr3Fonts.zip Pr6Fonts.zip Source1.zip Source2.zip Source3.zip ~ The Build directory contains files required for rebuilding the system. ls <somewhere>/Oberon2.3.7/Build/* Build.zip SourceB.zip System.zip If required these can also be copied to the SYS volume and extracted. ZipTool.ExtractAll Build.zip SourceB.zip System.zip ~ Then revert to the working volume. FileSystem.SetDefault YourWorkingVolume ~ ===Boot Manager=== If the target machine, real or virtual, has more than one operating system, a [[Oberon#Booting_and_Multi-booting|boot manager]] will be needed. ===System Configuration=== Fundamental configurations are represented by [[../WebConfig|configuration strings]] allowing specification of the display driver for example. The boot loader allows access to these strings. At a higher level, system configuration is in the file [[../OberonText|Oberon.Text]]. In the freshly installed base system this file is specifically SYS:Oberon.Text. Two subtleties can confuse the novice.<br> &#160;&#160;&#42; Syntax in Oberon.Text is critical. If a closing bracket "}" is inadvertently removed, some information following the error will be ineffective. Take care in editing Oberon.Text.<br> &#160;&#160;&#42; A storage volume additional to SYS can contain an Oberon.Text. Only the first-prioritized copy of the file has effect. For example, consider a system installed and configured with HOME prioritized before SYS. The first execution of ET.Open Oberon.Text will open SYS:Oberon.Text. After editing, ET.Store will store HOME:Oberon.Text. After reboot, SYS:Oberon.Text will remain but HOME:Oberon.Text will have effect; HOME:Oberon.Text will mask SYS:Oberon.Text. Ambiguity can be avoided by specifying a volume. ET.Open SYS:Oberon.Text ET.Open HOME:Oberon.Text ===Communications Environment=== Oberon on a native machine can connect to the Internet through a wired router. A more flexible connection can be provided by a Linux router. In any case the LAN should have a firewall. With a Linux router, [[w:Shorewall|Shorewall]] is recommended. ETH Oberon supports these communications. {| class="wikitable" |+ |- ! Modality ! Protocol ! Notes |- | [[w:Email|Email]] sending | [[w:Smtp|SMTP]] | Oberon can send to a [[w:Message_transfer_agent|MTA]] such as [[w:Exim|Exim]] on a [[w:LAN|LAN]] machine or directly to a [[w:smarthost|smarthost]]. Exim can provide secure communication. |- | Email receiving | [[w:Post_Office_Protocol|POP]] | POP can be tunneled through [[w:Stunnel|Stunnel]]. |- | [[w:terminal emulator|terminal emulator]] | [[w:Telnet|Telnet]] | For security, telnet connections should be limited to the LAN. |- | secure shell | [[w:SSH|SSH]] | Secure compared to telnet |- | file transfer | [[w:FTP|FTP]] | For security, FTP should be limited to the LAN. |- | file transfer | [[w:Secure_copy|SCP]] | Secure compared to FTP |- | [[w:World Wide Web|World Wide Web]] | [[w:Hypertext_Transfer_Protocol|HTTP]] | In absence of an SSL library, [[w:HTTPS|HTTPS]] is not possible. |} === Network Connection on a Real Machine === With the base system working, configure a network connection. ETH Oberon supports wired Ethernet with a static IP address. Wireless and DHCP are not supported. In absence of an Ethernet connection, [[w:Point-to-Point_Protocol|PPP]] over an [[w:|RS-232]] [[w:Crossover_cable|crossover cable]] ([[w:Null_modem|null modem]]) is also possible. Refer to the [[Oberon/ETH_Oberon/OberonText|Oberon.Text]] and [[Oberon/ETH_Oberon/nic|NIC]] pages. === PPP === The original PPP for XOberon was written by Martin Aeschlimann and Claude Knaus. Edgar Schwarz ported to ETH Oberon / PC Native. The syntax of Oberon.Text allows multiple Devices, Device0 ... Device9. In ETH Oberon 05.01.2003 the maximal number of Devices, MaxDevices, is set in NetBase.Mod to 2. This limit can be increased to 10 at most, with subsequent recompilation of NetBase.Mod. Multiple Devices allow the use of various network hardware and protocol options without changing Oberon.Text. For example Oberon.Text might define these three Devices. Device0 = { "PPPMain.InstPPP", "COM1"} Device1 = { "PPPMain.InstPPP", "COM2 \silent"} Device2 = { "Net3Com509.InstallDevice", "" } This allows noisy invocation of PPP, Dialer.Dial DIAL Device0 ~ and "silent" invocation. Dialer.Dial DIAL Device1 ~ Device2 allows for an Ethernet connection. Note that two different PPPs can not be installed on the same COM port and that NetBase.Mod must be recompiled with MaxDevices* = 3 or more for this example to work. ==== PPP Troubleshooting ==== Begin at the lowest level, the crossover cable or modem, and work to the highest level, the browser, mail handler and etc. A modem has two speeds: interface and modulation. The interface speed is between the computer and the modem. The modulation speed is between the modem and the telephone network. Unless referring specifically to the interface, specifications usually refer to the modulation speed. The interface speed of an internal modem or computer serial port is set in Oberon.Text in a DIAL script as in this example. Init = { COM1 57600 } {* modem port and speed *} As can be seen in V24.Start, allowed values of this speed are whole divisors of 115200 b/s. Hence, Oberon allows these speeds for the interface. 115200 57600 38400 19200 14400 The maximal interface speed of a modem is usually higher than the modulation speed. An external modem connects to a serial port and buffering is an issue. An internal modem connects directly to the system bus. Buffering between computer and internal modem is not an issue or is less critical than with an external modem. Perhaps someone who knows about buses and modem circuitry can elaborate. The interface speed should be set in the dial script to min(p, m) where p is the highest speed at which the the serial port of the computer can operate and m is the highest speed at which the serial port of the modem can operate. Some of the old IDE I/O cards used in desktop PCs were not reliable above 9600 b/s! Serial ports in laptop PCs are buffered better. My old Toshiba Satellite T2100 operates reliably at 38400 b/s; never tested 57600 b/s. In absence of specifications, the interface speed can be set empirically. Try one of these settings. If communication fails, adjust to a slower speed. Modulation Interface 14400 19200 28800 38400 57600 57600 Before attempting to make a DIAL script, try the V24.Panel. Execute. Desktops.OpenDoc V24.Panel Set the interface speed in the window. Parameters are COM port, interface speed, bits/byte, number of stop bits, parity. Click the Open button. Key in the modem initialization. For the majority of cases, ATZ will work. More information about initialization is available in the Kermit documentation and elsewhere on the Web. After the modem acknowledges initialization, in most cases with OK, key a dial command. Eg. ATD T5392157 The T invokes tone rather than pulse dialing. After a few to several seconds you should see a response from the remote system. If it allows a "terminal" or "dialup" connection you should get a prompt such as "login: ". In any case, you will at least have established that your modem can communicate with the remote modem. The next objective is to obtain a working DIAL script. It can be built up step by step. Rather than assume the characters which will be returned by the remote system, begin with something such as this, adapted to your environment. Replace "GulfNet" with any name you fancy, set the COM port and speed in Init and replace 5392157 with the number for your server. {* This is for the Motorola MODMSURFR *} GulfNet = { Init = { COM1 38400 } {* modem port and speed *} Dial = { "ATZ" 10 "OK" "ATD T5392101" 60 "ZZ" } "ZZ" is unlikely to be returned by the local modem, the remote modem or the remote system. Consequently the script just waits for all characters returned within 60 seconds. The System.Log will show the complete reply. Move it to the user track for easier reading. Choose a string of characters from the reply which indicates unambiguously, completion of the modem-modem connection. For example. <nowiki> {|ATD T5392101||CONNECT 38400|~ ... </nowiki> The strange characters beginning with ~ are the the PPP negotiations. The modem-modem connection is identified by "CONNECT 38400". Hence, "ZZ" in the script can be replaced with "400". This is a dial script. {* This for a Motorola MODMSURFR *} GulfNet3 = { Init = { COM1 38400 } {* modem port and speed *} Dial = { "ATZ" 10 "OK" "ATD T5392101" 60 "400" CALL "PPPMain.StartInst GulfNet3 peter" } } If the server does not prompt for a userid and password it should expect PAP (Password Authentication Protocol) authentication. ===Network Connection on a Virtual Machine Using a Bridge=== A configured [[w:Bridging_(networking)|bridge interface]] is required in the host.<ref>Is a bridge necessary? Hypothetically, routing can be achieved by configuration of [[w:Netfilter|Netfilter]] but is difficult for a non-expert. The [[w:Shorewall| Shorewall package]] is an efficient means to configure routing but would impose a large dependency on QEMU. The bridge is a convenient expedient.</ref> In Debian Linux, install the [https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/cron cron] and [https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/bridge-utils bridge-utils] packages. apt install cron bridge-utils This line in /etc/crontab should create interface br0. @reboot root ip link add br0 type bridge Check that the bridge exists. ip link show br0 4: br0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether 92:e0:54:07:2a:e2 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff Without the bridge, this method will fail. The name "br0" is arbitrary, provided consistency with the br option in the qemu command, with the name in /etc/network/interfaces and with the name in the /etc/qemu-ifup script. If there is difficulty creating the interface, assistance might be obtained from an enquiry in the [https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon Oberon mailing list] or in the [https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-discuss qemu-discuss list]. In most Linux systems, a stanza similar to this in /etc/network/interfaces will configure the extant bridge. # Bridge to qemu guest. auto br0 iface br0 inet static address 10.0.2.1 broadcast 10.0.2.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 <!-- iface br0 inet6 static address fd99:9999:9999:9999::1/64 --> "10.0.2.1" is a [[w:IPv4#Private_networks|IPv4 private IP address]] chosen by the designer of the particular [[w:Local_area_network|LAN]].<ref>In Debian 11, [https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=993716 bug 993716] reports a problem with IPv6 configuration. ETH Oberon uses only IPv4. Consequently IPv6 configuration is not attempted and the bug is harmless to this usage.</ref><!--"fd99:9999:9999:9999::1/64" is a [[w:w:IPv6_address#Unique_local_addresses|unique local address]] comparable to a [[w:Private_network|private address]] in IPv4.--> Successful configuration can be verified interactively as in this example. user@qemuhost:/home/user$ ip addr show br0 6: br0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state DOWN group default qlen 1000 link/ether 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 10.0.2.1/24 brd 10.0.2.255 scope global br0 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever <!-- inet6 fd99:9999:9999:9999::1/64 scope global valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 fe80::3082:6ff:feb6:c02a/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever fe80::3082:6ff:feb6:c02a is the IPv6 [[w:IPv6_address#Local_addresses|link local address]] derived from the [[w:MAC address|MAC address]] and assigned automatically. --> During system startup, if the network happens to be configured before the bridge is created, the bridge won't work for the Oberon guest. The bridge can be raised interactively. ifup br0 or ip link set br0 up When qemu is executed it attempts to create [[w:TUN/TAP|tap0]] and to configure it, connected to the existing bridge. The qemu command requires the tap option which requires root priviledge. sudo qemu-system-i386 \ -drive file=/dev/KingstonCF,index=1,media=disk,format=raw \ -vga std -boot order=c \ -nic tap,script=/etc/qemu-ifup.variant,model=ne2k_pci,br=br0 /etc/qemu-ifup.variant is a script which QEMU invokes to create and configure the tap interface. The user can change the name and content of the script according to requirements. Default routing in the QEMU host is reported by ip. user@qemuhost:/home/user$ ip route show | grep default default via 10.0.2.1 dev wlxe894f6248326 The /etc/qemu-ifup provided in Debian 11 assumes the bridge should connect to the default route. Script qemu-ifup.variant was suggested in the qemu-discuss list at [https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-discuss/2021-03/msg00074.html 2021-03-17] by Berto Furth to identify the bridge explicitly. #! /bin/sh # qemu-ifup.variant script which will be invoked by qemu to produce a tap interface. # Specify the preexisting bridge interface which the tap will connect to. bridge=br0 ip=$(which ip) echo $0 connecting $1 to $bridge ip link set "$1" up ip link set "$1" master "$bridge" exit For a bridge name other than br0, "br=br0" should be adjusted. The script must be executable; use chmod if required. chmod a+x /etc/qemu-ifup.variant The installed /etc/qemu-ifup should be preserved for reference and to avoid disruption by a package update. The null /etc/qemu-ifdown provided by Debian can remain as installed. Oberon has software drivers for [[w:3com|3COM]] and [[w:NE1000|Ne2000]] NICs; not for the QEMU default e1000 NIC. QEMU lacks support for 3COM. Therefore the qemu command includes "model=ne2k_pci". The tap option will require superuser authentication when QEMU is executed. In the Oberon guest, configuration is in Oberon.Text. NetSystem = { Hosts = { ... Device0 = { "NetNe2000.InstallDevice", "" } ... Route0 = { Device = "Device0" Mode = "arp" Host = { "OberonSystem", "10.0.2.2" } Gateway = { "QemuHostSystem", "10.0.2.1" } Netmask = { "netmask", "255.255.255.0" } } } Observe that in the [[w:Subnetwork|subnetwork]] 10.0.2.0/24 the bridge in the QEMU host has address 10.0.2.1 and the Oberon guest has address 10.0.2.2. Again, these private addresses can be adjusted according to design of the particular LAN. In any case the host bridge and guest will be on one subnetwork, in this example 10.0.2.0/24. ===Installation Complete=== Further assistance is available via the [[Oberon/Links_and_Support|mailing list]]. ===Footnotes=== {{BookCat}} gjjqjluincp4oiw07qjinbzc2qyjj57 Zelda franchise strategy guide/Enemies/Darknut 0 432578 4520937 3889173 2025-07-02T11:52:34Z WereSpielChequers 248949 typo 4520937 wikitext text/x-wiki {{dewikify}} [[Image:darknut.jpg|thumb|100px|right|A Darknut from ''Legend of Zelda'']] A {{nihongo|'''Darknut'''|タートナック|Taatonakku}} is a armored knight enemy that appears in ''[[The Legend of Zelda (series)|The Legend of Zelda]]'' series of [[video game]]s.<ref name="ghe">{{cite web | url=http://www.zelda.com/universe/pedia/d.jsp#Darknuts |author=Nintendo | title="Darknuts" at the official "Great Hyrule Encyclopedia" | publisher=Zelda Universe |year=January 1, 2006| accessdate=2007-06-11}}</ref> Typically, the thick armor and sturdy shield of a Darknut renders it nearly invulnerable from the front, forcing Link to circle around and strike it from behind. Darknuts are very similar to another ''Zelda'' enemy, the [[Iron Knuckle]]. In the Japanese versions, Darknut is called "タートナック" (taatonakku) which is noticeably similar to the Japanese name of Iron Knuckle, "アイアンナック" (aiannakku).{{Fact|date=August 2007}} It is apparent these two enemies are related, especially in the first two ''Zelda'' games, in which they shared similar designs and purposes. ==Appearances== ===''The Legend of Zelda''=== In the original ''[[The Legend of Zelda]]'', the Darknut's seemingly random movement and high damage capability make them a significant obstacle. The challenge is only compounded by the fact that they frequently appear in groups. The original Darknuts are monsters that attack in the traditional manner of attempting to touch Link, but are much more difficult to fight than other enemies with this attack pattern since they can only be damaged from the side or the rear. Their armor also renders them invulnerable to projectile attacks. Blue Darknuts have double the offensive and defensive capabilities and can move faster than the red ones. ===''A Link to the Past''=== The [[Enemies in The Legend of Zelda series|Castle Knights]] can be considered this game's version of the Darknuts, only they are not exactly monsters, but the knights and guards controlled by the magic of the evil wizard [[Agahnim]]. In the beginning of the game there are gold version holding shields that are friendly to Link, with one of them pointing out that they are slowly being brainwashed. The colors of their armor vary from green, blue and red and their difficulty increases in that order. Green Soldiers are sometimes armed with daggers rather than swords and sometimes use bows whilst hiding in bushes, Blue Soldiers use swords or bows and Red Soldiers use spears. Stronger than the normal guards are Knights, which wear different helmets and are somewhat stronger. Red Knights can use bombs and throw spears. The strongest type of guards is the Ball & Chain Soldiers, which come in Silver and Gold varieties. At the end of the game they are seen normal and unmasked. ===''Link's Awakening''=== They next appear in ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening|Link's Awakening]]'', as much weaker versions of their past selves. These are called '''Soldiers''' in the English version, but their Japanese names are still Darknuts. They attack with swords, shields, and arrows. ===''Oracle of Seasons'' and ''Oracle of Ages''=== Darknuts in [[The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages|''Oracle of Seasons'' and ''Oracle of Ages'']] appear the same as in ''Link's Awakening''. ===''Four Swords'' and '' Four Swords Adventures''=== Darknuts appear in ''[[The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past & Four Swords|Four Swords]]'' and ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures|Four Swords Adventures]]'' as an occasional mini-boss. ===''The Wind Waker''=== <!-- Unsourced image removed: [[Image:zww-mighty-dark-nut.jpg|thumb|200px|right|{{speedy-image-c|[[2007-08-14]] --> In ''[[The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker|The Wind Waker]]'', Darknuts are much slower and more intimidating, carry armor differing in design and color in order to denote rank. The weakest Darknuts wear silver armor and carry only a gigantic [[greatsword]], while the highest-ranking Darknuts wear black or red armor with a cape, a stylized helmet, and a shield. Unlike being a mini-boss in most games, Darknuts in the Wind Waker appear as a semi-common enemy in the 2nd half of the game. [[Image:07A Mighty Darknut.jpg|thumb|200px|left|A "Mighty" Darknut]] Darknuts can be stripped of their armor through well-placed attacks, counter-attacks, and use of the Grappling Hook or Fire Arrows. Once its helmet is removed, the Darknut's face is shown to resemble that of a [[wolf]] or a [[jackal]]. The Darknut's greatsword can be taken by Link and used as a powerful (even if clumsy) weapon, which can even break certain stone pillars. Darknuts will attempt to pick up any available weapons if they are disarmed. If no weapons are available, they will continue to attack with their bare hands, and are apt to dodge attacks if their body armor has been removed. These Darknuts easily break out when frozen by the Ice Arrows, though Link can still shatter them with quick use of the Skull Hammer. They occasionally use a move similar to Link's jump attack, which will take off a whopping 3 hearts if it connects. They drop rare "Knight's Crests", proof that they are advanced enough to perform the "Hurricane Spin". ===''The Minish Cap''=== Darknuts (rendered "Dark Nuts" on their figurine) occasionally appear as sub-bosses in ''[[The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap|The Minish Cap]]''. They appear like their ''The Wind Waker'' counterparts, but removing their armor is neither possible nor necessary. All normal Darknuts wear white armor (with either green or red trim), carry shields, and can only be harmed while opening its guard or by being attacked from behind. They attack either by slashing, performing a dashing stab, or using a charged unblockable stab. The game also contains a slightly stronger red-armored Darknut named "Red Dark Nut" and a black-armored Darknut named "Black Knight", who is the strongest Darknut and is faced in the final dungeon. Black Knight first attacks by itself, and later along with two Red Dark Nuts. ===''Twilight Princess''=== [[Image:06A Darknut.jpg|150px|thumb|A fully armored Darknut]] A Darknut first appears as a mini-[[boss (video games)|boss]] in the sixth dungeon, the Temple of Time, in ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess|Twilight Princess]]'', and later as a high-level enemy. They are differentiated by the shade of their armor, coming in black, red, blue, copper, silver, and gold varieties. They are also found in the Cave of Ordeals, as well as Hyrule Castle. They are also very tall, being roughly twice the height of Link. Like in ''The Wind Waker'', Darknuts are well-armored, and lose their armor as Link lands hits on them. Bombs are also effective at removing their armor, particularly on groups of them (though the bombs are useless once the armor is completely gone). They are armed with either greatswords (though used with one hand) or giant maces, accompanied with a shield. This shield is very potent and can fend off any of Link's attacks and all of his weapons. Once its outer armor and shield has fallen off, the Darknut throws its weapon at Link and unsheathes a [[smallsword]]. Unarmored Darknuts are highly adept at blocking Link's attacks, although certain powerful techniques can beat down their guard. Later in the game, in [[Hyrule Castle]], the player can choose to fight two of these foes at once, both wielding mace. Darknuts have arguably the best A.I. in the entire game, as they can block or dodge nearly every attack, even sidestepping Bomblings in their armorless state, while dealing swift counterblows. At the final floor of the 'Cave of Ordeals' (Found in Gerudo Mesa) Link must fight three of these enemies at once (or four when completing the Cave for a second time), which can only be accomplished by very experienced players. ===''Phantom Hourglass''=== In the Temple of the Ocean King, Bellum, the primary antagonist, uses some of his power to create Darknut-like creatures called Phantoms which are invulnerable to all weapons, save for the legendary Phantom Sword and Hero's Bow, but the bow will only stun it temporarily. At the game's climax, Bellum possesses Linebeck and turns him into a sword-wielding Phantom, whom Link is forced to fight. The possessed Linebeck behaves quite similarly to Darknuts in past games, slowly advancing toward Link and blocking most of his attacks. Its own moves are extremely powerful, but it shares the same weakness as its Phantom cousins, namely the eye on its back. ===''Link's Crossbow Training''=== A Darknut appears as one of two Bosses in Link's Crossbow Training. He is fought in the third part of the 8th level. It is fought in "Ranger" mode where Link can move freely using the control stick on the nunchuck, and must be destroyed within the time limit (Although he does not need to be destroyed to achieve a bronze medal, required to go onto the Final level) its appearance is identical to its Twilight Princess incarnation. ==References== {{Reflist}} {{Zelda enemies}} {{BookCat}} fq0vqxq1o0tw60v6b0ahcqerdomtr3e Mario franchise strategy guide/Enemies/Kremling 0 434377 4520924 3935486 2025-07-02T09:34:03Z WereSpielChequers 248949 typo 4520924 wikitext text/x-wiki {{dewikify}} The '''Kremlings''' or '''Kremling Krew''' are the main enemies of the [[Donkey Kong (series)|Donkey Kong]] games. They are a legion of [[anthropomorphic]] [[crocodile]]s led by [[K. Rool|King K. Rool]] and exist simply to get in [[Donkey Kong (character)|Donkey Kong]] and friends' way. The Kremlings first appeared in ''[[Donkey Kong Country]]'' in 1994, by [[Rare (company)|Rareware]]. There, they were following the orders of K. Rool to steal Donkey Kong's famed banana hoard. The drone archetypes that appeared in this game would set a template for future Kremling designs to follow. Almost all Kremlings have a name beginning with a K, and even the exceptions have a K in some part of their name. The Kremlings returned in 1995 with ''[[Donkey Kong Land]]'' and again in ''[[Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest]]''. In that game, following the self-proclaimed '''Kaptain K. Rool''''s fashion sense, virtually every Kremling was dressed in [[pirate]] fatigues, some even going as far as amputating arms or legs. This trend continued into the game's pseudo-sequel ''[[Donkey Kong Land 2]]''. It should also be noted that the game took place on [[Crocodile Isle]], the Kremling's home island. The island was subsequently destroyed at the end of both games. In ''[[Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble!]]'', K. Rool was believed to have been replaced with the robot [[KAOS (Donkey Kong)|KAOS]]. However, it was later found that K. Rool was the controller of KAOS, and under the persona of "Baron K. Roolenstein". In accordance with this, the Kremling designs in this game were moderately different from the designs in the earlier games. This style was kept for ''[[Donkey Kong Land III]]'' a year later. In ''[[Diddy Kong Racing]]'' for the [[Nintendo 64]], a sole Kremling by the name of [[Krunch]] was available as a playable character. As the story goes, his mission was to investigate [[Diddy Kong]]'s visit to ''Timber's Island'' and find out if the monkey was hatching some sort of anti-Kremling plot. Krunch was set to return in ''[[Diddy Kong Pilot]]'' for the [[Game Boy Advance]], however, the game was refit into ''[[Banjo Pilot]]'' after Rare was sold to [[Microsoft]] in 2002. The Kremlings returned in ''[[Donkey Kong 64]]'' in 1999. There, once again under the command of King K. Rool, the Kremlings returned to a look more accurate to the original ''[[Donkey Kong Country]]'' than DKC2 or 3. Also in this game, there were a few Kremlings that went unnamed due to the lack of a [[curtain call]] that was traditional in the ''Donkey Kong Country'' series. This includes a skeletal Kremling, a wind-up robotic Kremling, a Kremling inside a mushroom costume, a ghostly demon Kremling featured inside Donkey Kong's minecart stage, and a Kremling under a sheet with holes cut out for the eyes. The classic Kremling designs returned in the port of ''Donkey Kong Country'' for Game Boy Color, and after that, they disappeared for a while, only warranting a brief cameo by Klaptraps in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''. In 2003, Donkey Kong Country was once again ported, this time to the [[Game Boy Advance]]. This brought about the return of the Kremlings, and a year later, they appeared in the port of ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' for the GBA, as well as the sports game ''[[Mario Power Tennis]]'' and the music game ''[[Donkey Konga]]''. In 2005, the Kremlings returned as the main foes in ''[[DK King of Swing]]'' for Game Boy Advance, and made appearances in ''[[Mario Superstar Baseball]]'', ''[[Donkey Konga 2]]'' and ''[[Super Mario Strikers]]'' for the [[GameCube]] and in ''[[Mario Strikers Charged]]'' for the [[Wii]]. Strangely, ''[[Donkey Kong Jungle Beat]]'', the apparent successor to the Donkey Kong series on the GameCube, did not feature any Kremlings whatsoever. This is because of a decision made by the developers to give the game "fresh features". In ''[[DK King of Swing]]'', the name Kremling is applied only to the enemy [[#Kritter|Kritters]], as the only other Kremling to appear in the game aside from them is King K. Rool; in the sequel, ''[[DK Jungle Climber]]'', the name is once again used for the species, presumably because other Kremlings aside from Kritters (such as [[#Klobber|Klobbers]]) appear in the game. The Kremlings were also a frequent part of the Donkey Kong Country TV series, once again appearing as the main villains. Strangely, they were never referred to as "Kremlings" in the entire span of the program, being solely called the names of various reptiles (salamanders, geckos, lizards, etc.). == Notable types of Kremlings == === Bazuka === '''Bazukas''' are small red-colored (purple-colored in the Japanese version of Donkey Kong Land 3) Kremlings with large [[bazooka]]s. Similar to Kannons, they fire out various types of barrels, which the Kongs can change by hitting "switches" throughout the level. Bazukas were often helpful, as the Kongs could bounce on their barrels to reach new areas. On three occasions, Bazuka was necessary to defeat Koin. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 3'' * ''Donkey Kong Land 3'' === Kaboing === '''Kaboings''' are Kremlings with two [[pegleg]]s. These peglegs are spring loaded to allow Kaboing to jump higher. They closely resemble both [[Kritter]] and Klomp in appearance. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' * ''Donkey Kong Land 2'' === Kaboom === '''Kabooms''' are similar in appearance to Klobbers, and in nature to Klasps. Kaboom will lie in wait for the Kongs inside a [[trinitrotoluene|TNT]] barrel. If the Kongs come into contact with him, he will explode. They are distinguished from actual TNT barrels by the N being backwards on a barrel that conceals a Kaboom. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' * ''Donkey Kong 64'' === Kackle === '''Kackles''' are skeletal Kremling [[ghost]]s that hide in [[haunted house]]s. They are not programmed to be defeated but can only be outrun. They are exclusive, only being found in one level, "Haunted Hall". In ''Donkey Kong 64'' another, unnamed skeletal Kremling appears. Whether this is a Kackle or a relative to them is unknown. '''Appearances:''' * ''[[Donkey Kong Country 2]]'' === Kannon === '''Kannon''' is a [[cannon]]-carrying Kremling who according to the manual is actually [[Klump]]. He fires out [[cannonball]]s and in some cases barrels. He usually fires them straight forward, but sometimes fires them downward. In the [[Donkey Kong Country (TV series)|animated series]], the character [[Kaptain Skurvy]] bears a large resemblance to Kannon. Kannon is fat and easy to defeat with a bounce on the head. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' * ''Donkey Kong Land 2'' === Kasplat === '''Kasplats''' are burly Kremlings spread throughout ''[[Donkey Kong 64]]''. Each Kasplat has a piece of [[Snide]]'s blueprint for the ''Blast-O-Matic'' [[laser]], and every Kong can defeat their specific Kasplat (as identified by their hair color) to retrieve the blueprint and return it to Snide in return for a Golden Banana. [[Prima]]'s Donkey Kong 64 Strategy Guide incorrectly referred to Kasplat as [[Krusha]], but the two are in fact, separate enemies. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong 64'' === Klampon === '''Klampons''' are the ''[[Donkey Kong Country 2]]'' and ''[[Donkey Kong Land 2]]'' equivalent of Klaptraps. While a bit larger than Klaptrap, they have a similar appearance and movement pattern. In the DKC2 manual, they are referred to as "Klaptrap's older brother". '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' * ''Donkey Kong Land 2'' * ''Donkey Konga 2'' === Klaptrap === '''Klaptraps''' are low-to-the-ground crocodiles that continually snap their jaws while walking around. This makes frontal attacks on them impossible. Klaptraps are very popular amongst [[Nintendo]]'s second and third parties, having appeared in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' and ''[[Mario Power Tennis]]''. The Klaptrap biting noise in ''Donkey Kong Country'' was, according to the Rare scribes (May 12 2005), produced by one Mr. Peilio of Rare. He did this by banging his teeth together. In ''Donkey Kong 64'', this sound was replaced with a more generic one. In ''[[Donkey Kong 64]]'', the Klaptraps reappear but in a more dog-like attitudes than in the previous games. Every time they are destroyed however, their teeth automatically come to life and attack by trying to bite the current Kong. But this is nothing on a count of that the Kong can still just easily attack and shatter them once more (the Klaptrap is killed instantly if an orange grenade is used). The game also features purple ones and a very large red one, only featured in the Creepy Castle intro. In the mini-game 'Beaver Bother', a green Klaptrap is actually controllable. Its only abilities are to jump (with A) and gnash its teeth (with B). In the [[Donkey Kong Country (TV series)|Donkey Kong Country animated series]], they were used merely as ammunition that was fired from guns and acted a bit like [[termite]]s. One particularly large Klaptrap (about Diddy's size) appeared in a few episodes and was called Junior. Junior however was mostly on the Kong's side and once saved Donkey Kong from a pack of sea pirate Kremlings after Diddy helped him regain his sharp teeth. In [[Mario Superstar Baseball]], the river in Donkey Kong's stadium was filled with Klaptraps. If a player gets bitten by one he or she becomes slower and less manoeuverable. If a Klaptrap is hit by a baseball, the team who hit it gets a team star. Klaptraps behave in a similar manner to the Snapjaws that featured in ''Donkey Kong Jr.''; unlike Klaptraps, however, Snapjaws were mechanical. In ''[[Donkey Kong Country 2]]'' and ''[[Donkey Kong Land 2]]'', Klaptrap was replaced by Klampon, his older brother, who is almost identical in appearance and behavior. The Klampons were replaced by Krimp in [[Donkey Kong Country 3]] and [[Donkey Kong Land 3]]. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country'' * ''Donkey Kong Land'' * ''Donkey Kong 64'' * ''Super Smash Bros. Melee'' * ''Donkey Konga'' * ''Mario Power Tennis'' * ''Mario Party 7'' * ''Mario Superstar Baseball'' === Klank === '''Klanks''' are Kremlings who resemble Kutlass. They are found in the levels "Target Terror" and "Rickety Race" in ''Donkey Kong Country 2''. Klanks ride skull-shaped roller coaster cars and attack by throwing barrels at the Kongs. Klanks come in a multitude of colors. In order to gain the DK Coin in "Rickety Race" Dixie and Diddy must defeat all 10 Klanks in the level by jumping on them. '''Appearance:''' * ''[[Donkey Kong Country 2]]'' === Klasp === '''Klasps''' are Kremlings who look the same as Knocka, but hide in red TNT barrels. They cling onto horizontal ropes and will chase after anyone who grabs onto that rope. If the Kongs hit them, the Klasps will explode. They first appeared in ''[[Donkey Kong Country 3]]''. They later appeared in ''[[Donkey Kong Land III]]'', but they don't chase after the Kongs; instead, they go back and forth in a fixed pattern. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 3'' * ''Donkey Kong Land 3'' === Klinger === '''Klingers''' are Kremlings that are able to climb and slide down vertical ropes and chains. They first appeared in ''[[Donkey Kong Country 2]]'', and later in ''[[Donkey Kong Land 2]]''. According to the game's [[Player's Guide]], Kremlings weren't natural-born rope climbers; Klingers are the only ones who are able to. Getting touched or landing on them (when their climbing hand is swinging up) will cost a character. It is possible to defeat them if timed right. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' * ''Donkey Kong Land 2'' * ''Donkey Konga 2'' === Kloak === '''Kloaks''' are ghosts that hide in large cloaks that resemble the garb Krook wears and float through the air. They materialize items out of thin air that they use to attack. The items they throw range from treasure chests to Spiny porcupines. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' === Klobber === '''Klobbers''' are Kremlings that dress up in barrels. They first appeared in ''[[Donkey Kong Country 2]]'', as well as in ''[[Donkey Kong Land 2]]'' and ''[[Donkey Kong 64]]''. When the characters ventured near them, they would pop out and attempt to push them around by knocking into them. There are four varieties: green ones just knocked a Kong around, yellow ones caused 10-banana bunches to fall from the character, red ones, also known as "Kabooms" will explode on impact, while the grey ones caused extra life balloons to fly out. ''[[Donkey Kong Land 2]]'' only had the green and red variations. In ''[[Donkey Kong 64]]'', they would hurt the Kongs. In ''[[DK Jungle Climber]]'', Klobbers attack by bumping into Donkey Kong and knock him off pegs, which Klobbers can climb in this game. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' * ''Donkey Kong Land 2'' * ''Donkey Kong 64'' * ''Donkey Konga 2'' * ''DK: Jungle Climber'' === Klomp === '''Klomps''' are basically the ''[[Donkey Kong Country 2]]'' (and ''[[Donkey Kong Land 2]]'') equivalent of Kritters. There were no difference between the two, except that Klomps have peg legs and do not come in a variety of colors, only green; also, they are unable to jump as certain kinds of Kritters were. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' * ''Donkey Kong Land 2'' === Knocka === '''Knockas''' are Kremlings who hide in green barrels, and will charge at their foes and attempt to ram them off an edge in a similar manner to Klobber. They have mouths painted on their barrels and eye-holes. They first appeared in ''[[Donkey Kong Country 3]]''. The [[Game Boy Advance]] port featured a TNT version in the stage ''Stormy Seas''. These enemies are also in ''[[Donkey Kong Land III]]'', but are named Krusha instead. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 3'' * ''Donkey Kong Land 3'' (as Krusha) === Kobble === '''Kobbles''' are muscular Kremlings with no form of clothing who are similar to Kritters. They first appeared in ''[[Donkey Kong Country 3]]'', but didn't appear in the later levels. They appeared more frequently in ''[[Donkey Kong Land III]]''. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 3'' * ''Donkey Kong Land 3'' === Koin === '''Koins''' are Kremlings who wear helmets made of metal buckets with a skull and cross-bones image on it that carry shields made of trash-can lids with a [[DK Coin]] within it. They can only be defeated by throwing a steel barrel in a manner that maneuvers it over their head so that it collides with his vulnerable backside, the only area which remains unprotected. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 3'' * ''Donkey Kong Land 3'' === Koindozer === '''Koindozers''' are Kremlings who resemble Koin, but are purple. They have no DK Coin on their shields, but will attempt to ram their foes away, possibly into an abyss. They can't be defeated, neither by a steel barrel in their backside like the Koin. The Kongs can step on their shield by jumping over them. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 3'' === Kopter === '''Kopters''' are small Kremlings with helmets and [[helicopter]] blades in each hand. They fly through stages either in fixed patterns or downwards by spinning the blades. The blades are harmful for the Kongs to touch, but they can jump on Kopter's helmet without taking any damage. They can be defeated in ''[[Donkey Kong Land 3]]''. ''[[Donkey Kong Barrel Blast]]'' features what appears to be an updated version of Kopter as a playable racer. <ref> http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/rdkj/chara/index.html </ref> '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 3'' * ''Donkey Kong Land 3'' * ''Donkey Kong Barrel Blast'' === Kosha === '''Koshas''' are small Kremlings dressed in [[Viking]] clothing that wielded giant spiked clubs. They appeared in ''[[Donkey Kong 64]]'' and are very similar to Kutlass. They have a hard time carrying their clubs because the clubs are more than twice their size. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong 64'' === Krash === '''Krash''' is a regular [[Kritter]] who attempts to drive a minecart into the players in the minecart levels of ''[[Donkey Kong Country]]''. A muscular version attempts to club them in the minecart levels of ''[[Donkey Kong 64]]''. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country'' * ''Donkey Kong 64'' === Krimp === '''Krimp''' are the ''[[Donkey Kong Country 3]]'' and ''[[Donkey Kong Land 3]]'' equivalent of Klaptrap. They have a similar appearance and movement pattern. In gameplay, Dixie or Kiddy could attack this Kremling from behind and it would die. This is the opposite for Klampon and Klaptrap, where they would bite if attacked from behind. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 3'' * ''Donkey Kong Land 3'' === Kritter === '''Kritters''' are the grunts of the Kremling army. They walk on two legs and wander back and forth, though in some games they will attempt to attack. They are adorned in either gold-plated shoulderpads or skull-adorned biker jackets. [[Krunch]] was of this latter variety. In ''[[Donkey Kong Country 2]]'' and ''[[Donkey Kong Land 2]]'', Kritters were replaced by Klomps, who were replaced by Kobble in ''[[Donkey Kong Country 3]]'' and ''[[Donkey Kong Land 3]]''. The green one is the easiest to beat and the purple one is the hardest. Most of them just walk around, but some of them jump. Outside of normal Donkey Kong games, they have appeared in ''[[Mario Power Tennis]]'', ''Mario Superstar Baseball'', and were the goalies in ''[[Super Mario Strikers]]'', as well as its sequel, ''[[Mario Strikers Charged]]''. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country'' * ''Donkey Kong Land'' * ''Diddy Kong Racing'' (as Krunch) * ''Donkey Kong 64'' * ''Mario Power Tennis'' (cameo) * ''Mario Superstar Baseball'' (cameo) * ''Super Mario Strikers'' * ''Diddy Kong Racing DS'' (as Krunch) * ''Mario Strikers Charged'' * ''Donkey Kong Barrel Blast'' * ''DK King of Swing'' (as Kremling) === Krochead === '''Krocheads''' come in the green and red variety. They both appear in Donkey Kong Country 2. The green heads act as platforms, and the red heads act as springboards. In some levels they have a habit of sinking into the lava/water, so timing jumps is crucial. Sort of like the alligators in Pitfall. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 2 '' * ''Donkey Kong Land 2 '' === Krook === '''Krooks''' are Kremlings that wear trench coats over their bodies and two large hooks for hands. They can throw their hooks at Diddy Kong or Dixie Kong which boomerang back to them. They appear in ''[[Donkey Kong Country 2]]'' and ''[[Donkey Kong Land 2]]'', usually in mine shafts, castle towers and bee hives. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' * ''Donkey Kong Land 2'' === Krumple === '''Krumples''' are the ''[[Donkey Kong Country 3]]'' and ''[[Donkey Kong Land 3]]'' equivalent of Krushas. They are big blue muscular Kremlings that walk back and forth in various stages. If Dixie tried to attack them, she'd bounce off of him and he'd make a beckoning motion. Only Kiddy, animals, or items could harm him. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 3'' * ''Donkey Kong Land 3'' ===Kruncha=== '''Krunchas''' are the ''[[Donkey Kong Country 2]]'' and ''[[Donkey Kong Land 2]]'' equivalent of Krushas. They are big blue muscular Kremlings that walk back and forth in various stages. If the Kongs tried to attack them, they would get mad and turn red and run faster, plus he can take out any Kong that touches him. They could only be defeated by throwing barrels at them, teaming up and jumping on him, or performing a team throw. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' * ''Donkey Kong Land 2'' === Krusha === '''Krusha''' are muscular Kremlings with [[camouflage]] tank-tops. These appear to be the strongest Kremlings. In ''[[Donkey Kong Country]]'', the blue ones were immune to Diddy's own attacks. There were also grey ones that were even stronger and could only be defeated by having barrels thrown at them. They were also in ''[[Donkey Kong Land]]'', but, perhaps due to the Game Boy's limited color display, Krushas only came in one kind, which was the weaker kind. This particular Kremling also appeared as an unlockable character to play as in ''[[Donkey Kong 64]]''’s VS mode, becoming the first playable Kremlings in the Donkey Kong series. Like Klump, only one Krusha was featured in the TV series. This Krusha was K. Rool's bodyguard, who had a childlike IQ and enjoyed watching "Sing Along with Uncle Swampy". He became Kruncha in ''[[Donkey Kong Country 2]]''. ''[[Donkey Kong Country 3]]'' featured Krumple, a muscular Kremling who is very similar to Krusha. ''[[Donkey Kong 64]]'' features a similar enemy character called Kasplat. There was a completely different enemy in ''[[Donkey Kong Land III]]'' with the same name; he was exactly like Knocka in ''[[Donkey Kong Country 3]]'' and would hide in a barrel, waiting for a Kong to appear so he or she would be shoved. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country'' * ''Donkey Kong Land'' * ''Donkey Kong 64'' === Kuchuka === '''Kuchukas''' are Kremlings that hide in purple barrels. While they are stationary, they will heave an endless amount of [[bomb]]s at the Kongs, sometimes multiple bombs in one toss. Kuchuka cannot be picked up like most barrels, and therefore can only be destroyed with a TNT barrel. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 3'' * ''Donkey Kong Land 3'' === Kutlass === '''Kutlass''' is a small pirate Kremling who carries two large [[cutlass]]es (hence the name). When he sees [[Diddy Kong]] or [[Dixie Kong]], he will charge and swing his swords, resulting in them getting stuck in the ground. This presents a moment of opportunity for the player to jump on them and defeat them. The green version can pull their swords out faster, giving the player a briefer moment to retaliate. Incidentally, the animated series also had a character named Kutlass, but he worked for [[Kaptain Skurvy]] and looked sort of like K. Rool with a lighter [[color scheme]]. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' === Rekoil === '''Rekoils''' are orange-colored Kremlings with springy tails. They jump around by bouncing off their tails and are quite common. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 3'' * ''Donkey Kong Land 3'' ===Rockroc=== '''Rockroc''' are brown colored Kremlings that are only found in "Stop and Go Station" in ''[[Donkey Kong Country]]'' and the Game Boy remakes. They can run very fast and cannot be defeated in any way. The only way to stop them is by jumping past a switch barrel labeled ''Stop and Go''. Note that this will only last for a few seconds before they get back up and keep running around. However, in the Game Boy Advance remake, they can be defeated by used Donkey Kong's Hand Slap on them while they're asleep. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country'' === Kuff 'n' Klout === Kuff and Klout are large, beefy, light brown Kremlings found in ''Donkey Kong Country 3''. As the name implies, they are found exclusively in pairs. Kuff 'n' Klout are only found in the lost world, Krematoa, where they have an entire level dedicated to them called "Tyrant Twin Tussle". Kuff 'n' Klout have two attack patterns, either charging into their foe or attempting to crush them in a dangerous game of leap-frog. Kuff 'n' Klout can only be beaten with TNT Barrels or [[Squitter the Spider]]'s webs. Oddly enough, if one of the two is defeated, the other becomes completely immobilized until he disappears suddenly. The other alternative is that the remaining twin will simply charge the player until he leaves the screen or is defeated. '''Appearances:''' * ''[[Donkey Kong Country 3]]'' === Skidda === '''Skiddas''' are Kremlings that slip and slide on the snow; they attempt to slide into the Kongs. In Donkey Kong Country 3, Skidda is a pinkish [[palette swap]] of Kobble; in the Japanese version of Donkey Kong Land 3, they are green just like Kobble. They appear in ''[[Donkey Kong Country 3]]'' and ''[[Donkey Kong Land III]]''. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 3'' * ''Donkey Kong Land 3'' == Kremling individuals == === K. Lumsy === '''K. Lumsy''' is a gigantic Kremling that makes his debut in Donkey Kong 64. K. Lumsy is so huge that every time he jumps up and down, the [[island]] shakes. Unlike other Kremlings, K. Lumsy is more timid and kind-hearted than his brethren. He thinks the Kongs are cute and doesn't want to harm them, so K. Rool locked him up in a [[portable]] island chained to K. Rool's ship until he learned to be more vicious. There are eight [[key (lock)|keys]] to the [[cage (enclosure)|cage]], each guarded by one of the world bosses. Each time one of the eight locks is opened, K. Lumsy jumps for joy, causing something to happen somewhere around the island (such as a gate rising, or a door crumbling) to open the next world. When all eight locks are opened, K. Lumsy returns the favor by (accidentally) grounding K. Rool's [[airship]], The Flying Kroc, and later gives him an extreme beating off-screen after [[Funky Kong]] blows K. Rool out of the wreck. In one of the two hidden cinema scenes shown when the player beats the game, K. Lumsy is shown back-stroking in the ocean with several of the Kongs riding on his belly, legs and tail. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong 64'' === Kaptain Skurvy === '''Kaptain Skurvy''' is a pirate from the [[Donkey Kong Country (TV series)|Donkey Kong Country animated series]]. His goal is to steal the [[Crystal Coconut]], which, according to him, is his birthright, as declared by his great-great grandpappy. His rival in obtaining it is [[King K. Rool]]. It's later revealed that Kaptain Skurvy wants something other than the Coconut; he wants to find his long lost brother, who turns out to be Klump. After he does this, Klump tells K. Rool that he's leaving to join Skurvy's pirate crew, but K. Rool forbids it. '''Appearances:''' * [[Donkey Kong Country (TV series)|''Donkey Kong Country'' animated series]] === Kalypso === '''Kalypso''' is a Kremling debuting in the upcoming ''[[Donkey Kong Barrel Blast]]''. Nothing is known about her, other than the fact that she is one of the first explicitly female Kremlings introduced along with Kass. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Barrel Blast'' === Kass === '''Kass''' is a Kremling debuting in the upcoming ''[[Donkey Kong Barrel Blast]]''. Nothing is known about her, other than the fact that she is one of the first explicitly female Kremlings introduced, Kalypso is another. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Barrel Blast'' === Kip === '''Kip''' is a Kremling debuting in ''[[Donkey Kong Barrel Blast]]''. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Barrel Blast'' === Kerozene === '''Kerozene''' is a large orange Kremling exclusive to the Game Boy Advance version of Donkey Kong Country 2. He appeared atop K. Rool's Keep. His attacks include punches, slashing with 2 large swords (that resemble Kleever), and shooting a wave of fire. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' <small> (GameBoy Advance remake only) </small> === King K. Rool === {{Main|K. Rool}} '''K. Rool''' is an obese, sometimes tailless{{Fact|date=November 2007}} crocodile who is ruler of the Kremling race and almost always the final boss of the games. His various guises (and thus, attacks) change from game to game. He has been himself (King K. Rool), a [[pirate]] ('''Kaptain K. Rool'''), a [[mad scientist]] ('''Baron K. Roolenstein'''), and a [[boxing|boxer]] ('''King Krusha K. Rool'''). As King K. Rool, his attacks were more physical and direct, which included charging at the Kongs, throwing his crown, making incredible jumps to squash his opponents, which the ground-shaking landing made a barrage of cannonballs fall from the top of the area. As Kaptain K. Rool, he shot cannonballs, clouds of gas, and used his large gun as a vacuum to pull in the Kongs. He could also momentarily become invisible. As Baron K. Roolenstein, he used a jetpack, and summoned electrified lightbulb-like gadgets to electrify certain parts of the area. He also ''technically'' used KAOS to attack the Kongs. As King Krusha K. Rool, his attacks varied from round to round, but mainly involved charging the Kongs, throwing his gloves like boomerangs, and jumping to create a shockwave. In ''[[Donkey Kong 64]],'' K. Rool's personality was further developed. He was portrayed as a slightly sinister parody of [[Darth Vader]] and [[Ernst Blofeld]], in the way of instilling fear in his subjects and pacing often (Vader) and deftly petting his pet Klaptrap while on his throne (Blofeld). His insanity was evident in his plot to destroy the [[DK Isles]], as noted in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''. In the animated series based off the game he plans to use the Crystal Coconut to take over Kongo Bongo (DK) Isle. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country'' * ''Donkey Kong Land'' * ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' (as Kaptain K. Rool) * ''Donkey Kong Land 2'' (as Kaptain K. Rool) * ''Donkey Kong Country 3'' (as Baron K. Roolenstein) * ''Donkey Kong Land 3'' (as Baron K. Roolenstein) * ''Donkey Kong 64'' (both as himself and as King Krusha K. Rool) * ''Super Smash Bros. Melee'' (in trophy form) * ''Diddy Kong Pilot'' (Cancelled) * ''Donkey Konga'' * ''DK: King of Swing'' * ''Donkey Kong Barrel Blast'' * ''DK: Jungle Climber'' === King Kut Out === A giant cardboard version of King K. Rool, '''King Kut Out''' is the Kritters' last-minute attempt at preventing the Kongs from getting the seventh boss key. It is the boss of Creepy Castle. This is more of a cardboard cutout than a boss, but it can shoot lasers out of its eyes and has a high-pitched crazy laugh; it is unknown if the laugh is from a loudspeaker or the boss itself. As backup, it has exploding fish in the water, and a Kritter dressed up as a ghost. This is the only boss where all the Kongs can fight it (but not at the same time), apart from K. Rool himself. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong 64'' === Klubba === '''Klubba''' is a large muscle-bound Kremling that guards the gate to the ''Lost World'' in ''Donkey Kong Country 2''. Paying 15 Kremkoins wins his favor, and access to the gate, although Kremkoins that were already collected in some bonus rounds cannot be re-collected. Players had the choice to fight him to win passage, but doing so always resulted in Klubba swinging his immense club and knocking the player back onto the world map. He reappeared in ''Donkey Kong Land 2'', but was relocated next to Gloomy Gulch. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' * ''Donkey Kong Land 2'' === Kludge === '''Kludge''' is a Kremling debuting in the upcoming ''[[Donkey Kong Barrel Blast]]''. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Barrel Blast'' ===Klump=== '''Klump''' is a fat, bumbling Kremling decked out in military attire. His hard hat makes it impossible for Diddy to stomp him, though a frontal attack will defeat them. In ''[[Donkey Kong 64]]'', he threw explosive oranges and could only be defeated by the DK Crew's own explosive oranges. In the animated TV series, Klump was featured, and he was K. Rool's general. In ''[[Donkey Kong Country 2]]'' and ''[[Donkey Kong Land 2]]'', he became Kannon, who was also featured on the TV show in the form of [[#Kaptain Skurvy|Kaptain Skurvy]]. He was portrayed by currently deceased actor [[Len Carlson]]. <ref> http://www.tv.com/donkey-kong-country/show/12462/cast.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=tabssh&tag=tabs;cast </ref> In ''[[Donkey Kong Barrel Blast]]'', Klump returns, but wearing a barrel on his head instead of a helmet. <ref> http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/rdkj/chara/index.html </ref>. It was confirmed in the Donkey Kong Country manual that despite appearing in multiples in the game he is an individual kremling. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country'' * ''Donkey Kong 64'' * ''Donkey Kong Barrel Blast'' === Krunch === A biker-jacket wearing member of the Kremling Krew, '''Krunch''' is one of the many playable characters in ''[[Diddy Kong Racing]]''. Before the main events of ''Diddy Kong Racing'', Krunch was sent by [[King K. Rool]] to investigate why [[Diddy Kong]] and his friends were venturing to Timber's Island and to see if they were hatching some sort of anti-Kremling plot. Instead of antagonizing Diddy and his friends, Krunch aids them in their quest to defeat the evil alien, Wizpig. Though people always get Krunch and Kritters confused, the basic Kremling enemy in Donkey Kong 64 bears an incredible resemblance to Krunch. Same goes with the Kremling goalies in the Mario Striker games, they also bear a resemblance. Krunch was to reappear in ''Diddy Kong Racing's'' sequel, ''Diddy Kong Pilot''; The game was cancelled and converted into ''[[Banjo-Pilot]]''. Recently, Krunch has appeared in ''Diddy Kong Racing's'' Nintendo DS port, ''[[Diddy Kong Racing DS]]''. '''Appearances''' * Diddy Kong Racing (1997) * Diddy Kong Pilot (Cancelled) * Donkey Kong 64 * Mario Power Tennis (2005) *Behind the lines in DK's stage* * Super Mario Strikers (2005) * Super Mario Strikers Charged (2007) * Diddy Kong Racing DS (2007) === Kudgel === '''Kudgel''' is a large grey Kremling whose appearance was basically a palette swap of Klubba (possibly, they are brothers). As such, he appeared in ''Donkey Kong Country 2''. His main form of attack was leaping, but he also used his club. When he landed, he would stun the Kongs and immobilize them. '''Appearances:''' * ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' === Robo-Kritter === A completely robotic Kritter, it is a member of [[King Bowser|Bowser's]] Super Team in ''[[Super Mario Strikers]]'', replacing a regular Kritter as the team's goalie. It becomes playable once the Super Team is unlocked; the Robo-Kritter also bears some minor resemblance to the unnamed, mechanical Kremlings seen in Frantic Factory in ''[[Donkey Kong 64]]''. '''Appearances:''' * ''Super Mario Strikers'' == References == {{reflist}} {{BookCat}} khf3pj8o2excm3ziwtf02y8ocbjqetq Public International Law/Law of Armed Conflict 0 434706 4520925 4446924 2025-07-02T09:39:59Z WereSpielChequers 248949 typo 4520925 wikitext text/x-wiki <p style="clear: both;"></p> {{OpenRewi/Chapter-Top}} <p style="clear: both;"></p> <!--Please do not delete the part above this comment--> {{Template:OpenRewi/WIP}} <big>Author: Anne Dienelt and Imdad Ullah</big> <blockquote>'''BOX 14.1''' '''Required knowledge''': [[Public International Law/Sources of International Law]], [[Public International Law/Human Rights Law]], [[Public International Law/Use of Force]], [[Public International Law/Subjects and Actors in International Law]] '''Learning objectives''': Understanding the law of armed conflict (''jus in bello'') considering its historical roots, evolutions over the period of various centuries, core principles and norms of the law of armed conflict, and some current challenges. </blockquote><blockquote>'''BOX 14.2. Interactive Exercises''' Access interactive exercises for this chapter<ref><nowiki>https://openrewi.org/en-projects-project-public-international-law-law-of-armed-confict/</nowiki>. </ref><!-- When using the website in the printed version, I only get to the starting page of openrewi and not to the exercises! --> by positioning your smartphone camera at the dot-filled box, also known as a QR code.<!-- AD: I don't know how to insert the QR code to the interactive exercise, I am afraid... --></blockquote> == A. Introduction == The persistence of violence and conflicts gave way to efforts to regulate it, first in terms of regulating weapons as in the (Eurocentric) 1868 St. Petersburg Declaration, and later on by specifically protecting civilians and the civilian population from the conduct of hostilities in the four universal Geneva Conventions and their additional protocols (often described as 'international humanitarian law' or 'IHL'). Rules and principles to limit the harm to civilian objects and the civilian population were present as early as the recorded human history. The content of these rules and principles was (and is) not purely humanitarian. There is a constant struggle with balancing military necessities with humanitarian aims. This also explains why not all rules and principles follow humanitarian motives'';'' as warfare has always been cruel and brutal.<ref>Marco Sassòli, Antoine Bouvier and Anne Quintin, ''How Does Law Protect in War? Cases, Documents and Teaching Materials on Contemporary Practice in International Humanitarian Law'' (Vol. I, 3rd ed, ICRC Publications 2011) 1.</ref> The ''jus in bello'' (Latin: 'right in war') should not be mixed with the [[Public International Law/Use of Force|''jus ad bellum'']] (Latin: 'right to war')<ref>{{Cite book |last=On jus ad bellum, see Svicevic, § 13, in this textbook |title=}}</ref> (or ''jus contra bellum'' [Latin: 'right against war']), which refers to the prohibition of the use of force and its exceptions. Even though aggression is prohibited (see Art. 2(4) UN Charter<ref>Charter of the United Nations (1945), XV UNCIO 335. </ref>), and its exceptions (e.g., see article 51 of the UN Charter). Even though aggression is prohibited, the law of armed conflict includes rules and principles regulating how an armed conflict can be conducted lawfully.<blockquote>'''BOX 14.3 Advanced: Separation of ''jus ad bellum'' and ''jus in bello''''' In the jus ad bellum, the current situation in Ukraine is phrased as an unlawful aggression by Russia against Ukraine. In the jus in bello, Russia and Ukraine are bound by the same legal standards, namely the law of armed conflict, even though Russia started the war with an unlawful invasion.</blockquote>This chapter explores how civilians and the civilian population are protected in war. How is the tension between military necessity and humanitarian aims resolved? What is lawful conduct in war? It begins with a historical overview to better understand the origins of the law of armed conflict. It then turns to the classification of a conflict (non-international or international), which determines the specific legal framework in the law of armed conflict that regulates the specific conduct of hostilities. Afterwards, the relevance of customary international law is highlighted by reference to the core principles of the law armed conflict, such as distinction or proportionality. The various actors in the law of armed conflict are briefly described, leading to current challenge within the law of armed conflict, including the protection of specific groups and objects particularly vulnerable in war as well as new technologies of warfare. The chapter concludes with a brief description of how the law of armed conflict can interact with other fields of public international law. == B. Historical overview == The modern law of armed conflict emerged as a result of historical norms and traditions. The terrible harm witnessed by ''Henry Dunant''<ref>Dunant, A Memory of Solferino, available at https://shop.icrc.org/a-memory-of-solferino-pdf-en.html</ref> after the battle of Solferino in 1859 served as a catalyst for this development.<ref>Fought between the French troops, allied to the Sardinians, and the Austrians troops on June 24, 1859, the battle of Solferino left 6,000 dead and 40,000 wounded on the very first day. The sufferings of unattended wounded as observed by Henry Dunant gave way to the formation of the Red Cross. For details, 'The battle of Solferino' (1859) < https://www.icrc.org/en/doc/resources/documents/misc/57jnvr.htm> accessed 23 June 2022 </ref> Parallel to States coming together to regulate a further warfare escalation with new weapons emerging in the 19th century, influential figures of the peace movement, such as ''Dunant'' or ''Bertha von Suttner'',<ref>Janne Elisabeth Nijman, "Bertha von Suttner: Locating International Law in Novel and Salon," in: Immi Tallgren, Portraits of Women in International Law - New Names and Forgotten Faces?, OUP 2022.</ref> campaign to adopt regulations to limit the suffering of the wounded. The creation of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) in 1863, the first Geneva Convention for the Amelioration of the Condition of the Wounded in Armies in the Field of 1864, and eventually also the 1899/1907 Hague Regulations aim at protecting the wounded in wars. In the beginning, 16 States from mainly Europe and Latin America participated in the first Geneva Conference, which resulted in an agreement on principles that emphasised the care for wounded individuals on the battlefield, regardless of their nationality. Later on, the Hague Peace Conferences further expanded the regulations and also includes rules governing naval warfare, which were subsequently confirmed and amended in the four 1949 Geneva Conventions and the two 1977 Additional Protocols (AP I and II). The 19th-century regulations and the 1899/1907 Hague Regulations could not stop two world wars (and did not intend to do so), nor were they able to prevent all human suffering. However, the two world wars and their devastating consequences for the civilian population underscored the need for universally applicable rules and regulations to curtail the horrendous character of modern warfare. Consequently, diplomatic conferences are held to agree on rules to care for the sick, wounded, and prisoners of war. These conferences also intended to expand the scope of earlier conventions. The 1949 Geneva Conventions enshrine rules on protecting civilian populations during war and under foreign occupation and generally regulate international armed conflicts. Their common article 3 addresses non-international armed conflicts.<ref>Frits Kalshoven and Liesbeth Zegveld, ''Constraints on the Waging of War: An Introduction to International Humanitarian Law'' (ICRC Publications 2001) 27-29.</ref> In the meantime, the Vietnam War, among others, highlighted the need for further warfare regulation. The two Additional Protocols (APs) from 1977 were also adopted in light of colonial wars. While AP II focuses on non-international armed conflicts and includes a set of rules applying to conflicts between States and non-State actors, AP I contains rules that extend the protection of the four Geneva Conventions. == C. Classification of an armed conflict == When analysing a specific armed conflict, first, one must determine the kind of armed conflict. This so-called classification<ref>See ICRC, Commentary GC I, pp 81–82 para. 224, available at https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl.nsf/Comment.xsp?action=openDocument&documentId=BE2D518CF5DE54EAC1257F7D0036B518#_Toc452041593; D. Akande, Classification of Armed Conflicts: Relevant Legal Concepts, in: E. Wilmshurst (ed.), International Law and the Classification of Conflicts (OUP, 2012), pp 32–79; J. K. Kleffner, Scope of Application of International Humanitarian Law, in: Fleck (ed.), Handbook of International Humanitarian Law, 4th ed., 2021, p. 52, para. 3</ref> refers to two categories of conflict: an international armed conflict (IAC) and a non-international armed conflict (NIAC). IACs between two or more States are regulated by the four Geneva Conventions, AP I and custom,<ref>On customary law, see Stoica, § 6, Section 2, in this textbook. </ref> while NIACs between a State and a non-State actor or between several non-State actors on the territory of a State<ref>On the variety of actors, see Engström, § 7, in this textbook. </ref> are governed by common article 3, AP II together with customary rules and principles<blockquote>'''BOX 14.4 Example: NIACs''' Two examples of NIACs are the conflict in Colombia with the FARC guerrilla group fighting the government, and in the aftermath of 9/11, the US war with Al-Qaeda across several States.<ref>Geneva Academy, ‘Rule of Law in Armed Conficts (RULAC)’ accessed 26 June 2022.</ref></blockquote> == D. Core principles of the law of armed conflict == In many instances, parties to a conflict have treated prisoners humanely and exchanged prisoners of war in the aftermath of conflicts. Due to belligerent States' consistent practice and ''opinio juris'', these practices gradually emerged as [[Public International Law/Sources of International Law/Customary Law|customary rules]].<ref>Kalshoven and Zegveld (n 7) 15. </ref> These customs<ref>The ICRC has conducted a study on customary IHL in 2005 and since then regularly updates the analysis of state practice and opinio juris. It is available online at https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl. </ref> were also codified in [[Public International Law/Sources of International Law|treaties]], such as the 1899/1907 Hague Regulations, the 1949 Geneva Conventions or the 1977 Additional Protocols. All fundamental principles of the law of armed conflict, such as humanity, distinction, military necessity, proportionality, and the obligation to take all feasible precautions, enjoy the status of customary law,<ref>{{Cite web |last=ICRC |title=Fundamental principles of IHL |url=https://casebook.icrc.org/a_to_z/glossary/fundamental-principles-ihl |access-date=26 June 2022 |website=www.casebook.icrc.org}}</ref> and apply in IACs and NIACs. Their objective is to 'humanise' warfare without challenging the justifications for the initial aggression (important separation of the right to war from right in war). They assist in maintaining the balance between military necessity and humanitarian protection. To be a lawful attack, all principles as well as specific regulations have to be observed. ==== I. Humanity ==== Following the principle of humanity, States have adopted norms prohibiting cruel and inhuman treatments of opponents, especially regarding prisoners of war.<ref>'Lieber Code: Instructions for the Government of Armies of the United States in the Field' (24 April 1863) <https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl.nsf/Article.xsp?action=openDocument&documentId=0E91FD21E67035CCC12563CD00514E42> accessed 24 June 2022 </ref> Today, the wounded, sick, shipwrecked, and non-combatants also enjoy protection. Regarding NIACs, the principle can be found today in common article 3, which prohibits the inhumane treatment of all those persons not participating in hostilities.<ref>'Convention (I) for the Amelioration of the Condition of the Wounded and Sick in Armed Forces in the Field' (12 August 1949) <https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl.nsf/WebART/365-570006?OpenDocument> accessed 25 June 2022 </ref> In IACs, article 75(1) AP I emphasises the humane treatment of individuals without discrimination.<ref>'Protocol Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, and relating to the Protection of Victims of International Armed Conflicts (Protocol I) (8 June 1977) <https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/ihl/WebART/470-750096?OpenDocument> accessed 26 June 2022 </ref> The principle of humanity enjoys customary status,<ref>For a detailed treatment of this principle as a customary norm, Jean-Marie Henckaerts and Louise Doswald-Beck, ''Customary International Humanitarian Law'' (Vol. I, CUP 2005) 306-343.</ref> applicable to States and non-States alike. ==== II. Distinction ==== The principle of distinction determines ''who'' and ''what'' can be targeted in the conduct of hostilities (see e.g. article 48 AP I). It has emerged as a cardinal principle in treaty as well as in customary law.<ref>''Legality of the Threat or Use of Nuclear Weapons'' (n 10) para 78, 92.</ref> It underscores that civilians and civilian objects are never a lawful target, while military objects and combatants can generally be attacked lawfully. Until and unless civilians participate in hostilities directly, they are legally protected from belligerent attacks''.''<ref>Henckaerts and Doswald-Beck (n 16) 3. </ref> Nevertheless, under very limited conditions, and only if proportionate, collateral damage to civilians and civilian objects can be lawful. The 1899/1907 Hague Regulations (article 25) do not specifically use the word 'civilians', but they outlaw 'the attack or bombardment, by whatever means, of towns, villages, dwellings, or buildings which are undefended'.<ref>'Convention (IV) respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land and its annex: Regulations concerning the Laws and Customs of War on Land' (18 October 1907) The Hague <https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl.nsf/Article.xsp?action=openDocument&documentId=D1C251B17210CE8DC12563CD0051678F> accessed 26 June 2022 </ref> Regarding IACs, article 57 (2)(b) AP I stresses that only direct armed attacks against combatants and military objects are lawful. In NIACs, article (13)2 AP II prohibits attacks on the civilian population, and treating civilians and civilian objects as an object of attack. It is also outlawed to cause terror among the civilians by indiscriminate attacks.<ref>'Protocol Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, and relating to the Protection of Victims of Non-International Armed Conflicts (Protocol II)' (8 June 1977) <https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/ihl/WebART/475-760019?OpenDocument> accessed 25 June 2022 </ref> Parallel in IACs, Art. 57(1) AP I stipulates that 'in the conduct of military operations, constant care shall be taken to spare the civilian population, civilians and civilian objects'. ==== III. Military necessity ==== Furthermore, actions that are necessary to accomplish a legitimate military purpose and are not otherwise prohibited by IHL can be lawful. In treaty law and custom, the only lawful military purpose is to weaken the military capacity of the other belligerent parties.<ref>{{Cite web |last=ICRC |title=Military necessity |url=https://casebook.icrc.org/a_to_z/glossary/military-necessity |access-date=26 June 2022 |website=www.casebook.icrc.org}}</ref> Article 23(g) of the 1899/1907 Hague Regulations prohibits 'to destroy or seize the enemy's property, unless such destruction or seizure be imperatively demanded by the necessities of war'.<ref>'Convention (IV) respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land and its annex: Regulations concerning the Laws and Customs of War on Land' (18 October 1907) The Hague <https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/ihl/WebART/195-200033?OpenDocument> accessed 27 June 2022 </ref> ==== IV. Proportionality ==== Proportionality is inter alia enshrined in article 51(5)(b) AP I which states that 'an attack which may be expected to cause incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians, damage to civilian objects, or a combination thereof, which would be excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated'. It puts the damage caused by military activities into relation with the military advantage and requires that the effects of the means and methods of warfare cannot be disproportionate to the military advantage.<ref>{{Cite web |last=ICRC |title=Proportionality |url=https://casebook.icrc.org/a_to_z/glossary/proportionality |access-date=26 June 2022}}</ref> Hence this principle balances military necessity with humanitarian considerations. It is common understanding that 'direct military advantage' refers to the operation as a whole and not separate parts of the attack.<ref>Henckaerts and Doswald-Beck (n 16) 49-51.</ref> While military necessity speaks of the criteria to choose a military target, proportionality lays down the limits of a specific military action to neutralise a target. ==== V. To take all feasible precautions ==== The principle of precaution was initially set out in article 2 of the 1907 Hague Convention (IX). It provides that given the presence of a military target inside an undefended town or port, the military commander to 'take all due measures in order that the town may suffer as little harm as possible'.<ref>'Convention (IX) concerning Bombardment by Naval Forces in Time of War' (18 October 1907) The Hague <https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl.nsf/Article.xsp?action=openDocument&documentId=C27C2D1A0E0C2C35C12563CD00516DB5> accessed 28 June 2022 </ref> Additionally, article 57 AP I states that it is incumbent upon the warring parties to 'do everything feasible to verify that the objectives to be attacked are neither civilians nor civilian objects and are not subject to special protection'. == E. Actors in the law of armed conflict == ==== I. States ==== [[Public International Law/Subjects and Actors in International Law|States]] as traditional subjects of international law<ref>On States, see Green, § 7, Section 1, in this textbook.</ref> play an important role in the law of armed conflict: States start armed conflicts, they participate in hostilities, they occupy territory, and they negotiate armistices. In collective efforts, States assembled at international peace conferences, like the ones leading to the conclusion of the 1964 Geneva Convention, the 1899/1907 Hague Regulations, and the 1949 Geneva Conventions. ==== II. Non-State Actors ==== Over the past decades, many NIACs took place, with one State fighting an organised armed group or several ones within its territory, and vice versa. These situations are regulated by common article 3 to the Geneva Conventions and AP II. In NIACs, rebel and terrorist groups can be belligerent parties and lawfully participate in the hostilities as armed non-State actors under the law of armed conflict. They are directly addressed in common article 3 and in AP II. <blockquote>'''BOX 14.5 Advanced: Non-State Actors''' The treatment of non-State actors under non-international armed conflicts does not grant them any legitimacy. This regulation only aims to safeguard innocent civilians in armed conflicts. Despite their active role in conflicts, non-State actors do not participate in the law-making procedure in the law of armed conflict. They are not a party to any treaty, since treaties are concluded between States exclusively. In peace negotiations, in contrast, non-State actors participate together with States. their actions are also indirectly considered when interpreting the law of armed conflict,<ref>Cf. conclusion 7 and its commentary of the ILC’s draft conclusions on subsequent agreements and subsequent practice in relation to the interpretation of treaties with commentaries, available at http://legal.un.org/docs/?path=../ilc/texts/instruments/english/commentaries/1_11_2018.pdf&lang=EF (accessed 16 March 2024). </ref> and when identifying rules and principles of customary law.<ref>Cf. conclusion 4, para 4 of the ILC’s draft conclusions on the identification of customary international law with commentaries, available at http://legal.un.org/docs/?path=../ilc/texts/instruments/english/commentaries/1_13_2018.pdf&lang=EF (last accessed 16 March 2024).</ref> Compliance of non-State actors with the law of armed conflict still represents a challenge.<ref>Annyssa Bellal and Stuart Casey-Maslen, ‘Enhancing Compliance with International Law by Armed Non-State Actors’ (2011) 3(1) GoJIL 175–197.</ref> </blockquote> ==== III. The International Committee of the Red Cross ==== The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) is the "guardian"<ref>ICRC blog, What is the ICRC's role in developing and ensuring respect for IHL?, available at https://blogs.icrc.org/ilot/2017/08/14/what-is-the-icrc-s-role-in-developing-and-ensuring-respect-for-ihl/ </ref> of the law of armed conflict. It is mandated to protect people affected by armed conflicts. It is a [[Public International Law/Subjects and Actors in International Law|subject of international law]] and has international legal personality. But the ICRC enjoys a special international legal status that is different than the one from NGOs, which are not subjects of international law, or international organisations, who mostly enjoy a derivated subjectivity in international law.<ref>On the variety of actors, see Engström, § 7, in this textbook.</ref> The ICRC is guided by seven principles: humanity, impartiality, neutrality, independence, voluntary service, unity & universality.<ref>See ICRC, Research Guide ‘The Fundamental Principles of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement’, available at https://blogs.icrc.org/cross-files/the-fundamental-principles-of-the-international-red-cross-and-red-crescent-movement/ accessed 23 June 2022.</ref> ==F. Current challenges in the law of armed conflict == === I. Protected Groups and Objects === States originally created the law of armed conflict to spare the civilians and the civilian population from the consequences of war. While the principle of distinction generally prohibits direct attacks against civilians, some provisions of the Geneva Conventions and their additional protocols address other specific groups or objects, such as medical personnel and infrastructure, cultural property, or the natural environment. Their protection is often linked to the protection of civilians and civilian objects, but the provisions install special protection for specific protected groups and objects that differs from the general protection of civilians and civilian objects. ==== 1. Medical Personnel ==== The 1864 Geneva Convention was concluded to take care of the wounded and sick combatants of all belligerent States who were ''hors de combat'' (French: 'out of the battle'). Without medical personnel and medical care, their protection would have remained meaningless. Hence civilians and militaries officially assigned to medical purposes temporarily or permanently are of high value in war due to their essential role in medical care. Medical personnel, medical units, and medical establishments enjoy protection and cannot be targeted lawfully.<ref>For IACs, see articles 24-25 GC I, articles 36-27 GC II, and article 15 AP I; for NIAC, see article 9 AP II.</ref> They are protected when fulfilling their medical duties in conformity with medical ethics.<ref>See articles 24-25 GC I, articles 36-37 GC II, articles 15-16 AP I.</ref> But once they participate in the hostilities, they lose their protection.<ref>See, e.g, The Practical Guide to Humanitarian Law 'Medical Personal' (''Médécins Sans Frontiéres'') <https://guide-humanitarian-law.org/content/article/3/medical-personnel/ (last accessed 15 March 2022).</ref> But once they participate in hostilities, they lose their protection.<ref>See articles 24-25 GC I, articles 36-37 GC II, and article 15-16 AP I.</ref> If they fall into the enemy's hands, they are not considered prisoners of war and must be set free.<ref>See e.g. Articles 28-32 GC I.</ref>Since they use the distinctive sign of the red cross, red crescent, or red crystal to guarantee their special protection, they were visible to the enemy's forces. Attacking them is a war crime under article 8(2) lit. b(xxiv) and 8(2) lit. e(ii) Rome Statute.<ref>On international crimes, see Fiskatoris, § 22, Section 1, in this textbook.</ref> ==== 2. Cultural Property ==== Cultural property enjoys special protection in armed conflicts.<ref>See generally, O'Keefe, Roger, ''The Protection of Cultural Property in Armed Conflict'' (CUP 2006).</ref> The two additional protocols contain provisions specifically protecting for cultural property in IAC and NIAC. Additionally, the Hague Convention for the protection of cultural property in the event of armed conflict from 1954 and its two protocols complement the protection based on the Geneva law.<ref>See article 53 AP I and article 16 AP II. Cultural property also enjoys protection under customary law, see ICRC, 'Study on Customary IHL,' Chapter 12, Rules 38-41, available at https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule38<nowiki/>(last accessed 15 March 2022).</ref> Cultural property is protected in armed conflicts because of its relevance for humanity and because everyone contributes to the world's culture.<ref>Preamble of the 1954 Hague Convention.</ref> Destruction of cultural heritage can amount to a war crime under the Rome Statute.<ref>See e.g. the ''Al Mahdi'' Case by the ICC, ''The Prosecutor v. Ahmad Al Faqi Al Mahdi'', ICC-01/12-01/15, more information available at https://www.icc-cpi.int/mali/al-mahdi (last accessed 15 March 2022).</ref> ==== 3. Natural Environment ==== The environment has been called a "silent victim" of war.<ref>UN Environment Programme, 'Rooting for the Environment in Times of Conflict and War,' (UNEP Press release, 6 November 2019) available at https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/rooting-environment-times-conflict-and-war (last accessed 15 March 2022)</ref> Only since the aftermath of the Vietnam War and with the adoption of AP I, the "natural environment" enjoys direct protection from "widespread, long-term ''and'' severe damage" in IACs.<ref>See articles 35(3) and 55(1) AP I; for custom, see rules 43–45 in ICRC, ‘Study on Customary IHL,’ Chapter 14 accessed 15 March 2022. </ref> However, it is unclear whether ‘long-term’ is measured in years or decades; based on the travaux préparatoires (French: ‘preparatory work’) the latter seems to be the case.<ref>See Anne Dienelt, Armed Conflicts and the Environment: Complementing the Laws of Armed Conflict with Human Rights Law and International Environmental Law (Springer 2022) 57 ff.</ref> Most scholars assume that this was not even reached in the cases of the Vietnam War and the deployment of Agent Orange, or when burning oil wells in Kuwait in 1991. Additionally, elements of the environment are protected as civilian objects.<ref>See Cordula Droege and Marie-Louise Tougas, ‘The Protection of the Natural Environment in Armed Conflict – Existing Rules and Need for Further Legal Protection’ (2013) 82(1) Nordic Journal of International Law 21, 23.</ref> They rarely serve military purposes and hence only rarely represent a military objective that can be attacked lawfully. Moreover, other provisions indirectly protect the environment, such as article 56 AP I on installations containing dangerous forces as [https://voelkerrechtsblog.org/how-are-nuclear-power-plants-protected-by-law-during-war/ nuclear power plants] or [https://lieber.westpoint.edu/attacking-dams-part-i-customary-international-law/ dams]. === II. New technologies === ==== ''1. Semi-Autonomous Weapons''==== Warfare technologies have made unprecedented strides in the last few decades. Such a development provides a strategic and operational edge, while it also raises numerous legal questions concerning the principles of distinction, necessity, proportionality, and so forth. In theory, semi-autonomous weapons like combat drones are more precise and proportionate. This is why combat drones were presented as 'the weapon of choice' at the start of the 'War on Terror' .<ref>Remarks of Director of Central Intelligence Agency, Leon E. Panetta, at the Pacific Council on International Policy (May 18, 2009) <<nowiki>https://www.cia.gov/newsinformation/speeches-testimony/directors-remarks-at-pacific-council.html</nowiki>> accessed 23 July 2022 </ref> Where the results on saving the lives of drone operators are certainly positive, the loss of lives when targeting the alleged terrorists are in many cases not proportionate to the actual security threat they pose. For instance, in case of the US drone attacks against terrorists in Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia, various governmental and non-governmental studies point to the fact that in contrast to their technological reputation for precision, combat drones are not that much precise, operationally.<ref>'Living under Drones: Death, Injury and Trauma to Civilians from US Drone Practice in Pakistan (International Human Rights and Conflict Resolution Clinic, Stanford Law School and Global Justice Clinic, New York University School of Law 2012); Jo Becker and Scott Shane, 'Secret "Kill List" Proves a Test of Obama’s Principles and Will,' ''The New York Times'' (29 May 2012) A1; Letta Tayler, 'Between a Drone and Al-Qaeda: The Civilian Cost of US Targeted Killing in Yemen,' (New York, Human Rights Watch 2013); Jane Mayer, 'The Predator War: What are the Risks of the C.I.A.’s Covert Drone Program?' ''The New Yorker'' (26 October 2009); 'Daily Situation Report,' (FATA Secretariat, Ministry of Interior, Pakistan, 2007-2017; Ben Emmerson, 'Report of the Special Rapporteur on the Promotion and Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms While Countering Terrorism,' UN Document A/68/389 (18 September 2013); Philip Alston, 'Report of the Special Rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions,' (presented to the Human Rights Council, 14th session, 28 May 2010). </ref> Nonetheless, the US remains adamant that the combat drones are precise and avoid losses to the innocent lives, despite the discrepancies surrounding the loss of innocent civilian lives. Undoubtedly, in some instances, combat drones pinpointed and eliminated the terrorists with more precision than conventional weapons, <ref>Imdad Ullah, ''Terrorism and the US Drone Attacks in Pakistan: Killing First'' (Routledge 2021) 131.</ref> complying with 'all feasible precautions' before striking down the intended target, and adequately fulfilling the principles of military necessity and proportionality. Notwithstanding the technological sophistication of combat drones and their ability to be precise and proportionate, their past deployment, specifically against the belligerent non-State actors, raises some serious questions about the fulfilment of humanitarian principles. The ''actual'' practices of the usage of combat drones seriously question their precision and proportionality, as often described in theory.<ref>Hugh Gusterson, ''Drone: Remote Control Warfare'' (The MIT Press 2016); 'Civilian Casualties & Collateral Damage,' (n 46); Letta Tayler, 'Between a Drone and Al-Qaeda: The Civilian Cost of US Targeted Killing in Yemen,' (Human Rights Watch 2013) < https://www.hrw.org/node/256485/printable/print> accessed 23 July 2022; 'A Wedding That Became a Funeral,' (Human Rights Watch 2014); 'France's Shadow War in Mali: Airstrikes at the Bounti Wedding,' (Stoke White Investigations 2021) <https://www.swiunit.com/post/france-s-shadow-war-in-mali-airstrikes-at-the-bounti-wedding> accessed 24 July 2022 </ref> ==== ''2. Autonomous Weapons'' ==== Within the context of the weapons of warfare, autonomy is a relative term. It may range and encompass launching a weapon to the point of successfully selecting, engaging, and neutralising the target.<ref>For a detailed treatment of autonomy in autonomous weapons systems and how may it operate in warfare, see Kenneth Payne, 'Artificial Intelligence: Artificial Intelligence: A Revolution in Strategic Affairs?' (2018) 60 Survival 7-32; Giovanni Sartor and Andrea Omicini, 'The autonomy of technological systems and responsibilities for their use' in Nehal Bhutta and others (eds), ''Autonomous Weapons Systems: Law, Ethics, Policy'' (CUP 2016) 40-65. </ref> According to the United States Department of Defense, a weapons system is autonomous when 'once activated, (it) can select and engage targets without further intervention by a human operator'.<ref>'Autonomy in Weapons Systems' ''U.S. Department of Defense'', directive no. 3000.09 (21 November 2012) </ref> In contrast, humans remain in the loop with semi-autonomous weapons when deciding and targeting enemy combatants. In general, artificial intelligence and autonomous weapons challenges the cardinal principles, such as humanity and proportionality. For instance, Articles 51 and 57 of AP I stress the importance of avoiding excessive physical and material damages in warfare. <ref>Dan Saxon, 'A Human Touch: Autonomous Weapons, Directive 3000.09, and the "Appropriate Levels of Human Judgment over the Use of Force" (Summer/Fall 2014) 15/2 Georgetown Journal of International Affairs 103. For further details, see Bill Boothby, 'How Far Will the Law Allow Unmanned Targeting to Go?' in Dan Saxon (ed), ''International Humanitarian Law and the Changing Technology of War'' (Mārtiņus Nijhoff/Brill 2013) 62-63; and David Akerson, 'The Illegality of Offensive Lethal Autonomy' in Dan Saxon (ed), ''International Humanitarian Law and the Changing Technology of War'' (Mārtiņus Nijhoff/Brill 2013) 7I. </ref> Avoidance of excessive damage in terms of the autonomous weapons depends upon the efficient decision-making. However, autonomous weapons based on data feeds reach decisions within moments, and thus might undermine the role of human judgement.<ref>Michael T. Klare, 'Autonomous Weapons Systems and the Laws of War' (2019) 49 Arms Control Today 6-12.</ref> Moreover, since the algorithm is based on image classifications such as soldier uniforms, insignias, numerous types of rifles and ammunitions, it can be hacked and fed with different image classifications. In other cases, images can be misinterpreted by autonomous weapons.<ref>ibid.</ref> Despite ethical, legal, and political questions<ref>For details of such voices, Mary E. O’Connell, 'Banning Autonomous Killing—The Legal and Ethical Requirement That Humans Make Near- Time Lethal Decisions' in Matthew Evangelista and Henry Shue (eds), ''The American Way of Bombing: Changing Ethical and Legal Norms From Flying Fortresses to Drones'' (Cornell University Press 2014) 224-235; Rebecca Crootof, 'A Meaningful Floor For "Meaningful Human Control" (2016) 30 Temple International and Comparative Law Journal 53–62; Peter Asaro, 'Jus nascendi, Robotic Weapons and the Martens Clause' in Ryan Calo, Michael Froomkin and Ian Kerr (eds), ''Robot Law'' (Edward Elgar Publishing 2016) 367–386.</ref> about the nature of and about certain characteristics of autonomous weapons challenging the cardinal principles, they may better protect a State's military personnel.<ref>Duncan Macintosh, 'Fire and Forget: A Moral Defense of the Use of Autonomous Weapons Systems in War and Peace' in Duncan Macintosh and Jens D. Ohlin (eds), ''Lethal Autonomous Weapons: Re- Examining the Law and Ethics of Robotic Warfare'' (OUP 2021) 9-23.</ref> ==== ''3. Cyber Weapons'' ==== Cyber<ref>On international law in cyberspace, see Hüsch, § 19, in this textbook. </ref> weapons, such as spyware and malicious software codes, have already brought down down the governmental digital platforms in Estonia and destroyed certain nuclear reactors in Iran, raising questions of armed attacks in ''jus ad bellum,'' possibly triggering the right to self-defence under article 51 UN Charter, and State responsibility''.'' With regard to the ''jus in bello'', the cardinal principles of the law of armed conflict are challenged.<ref>'International Humanitarian Law and the Challenges of Contemporary Armed Conflicts' (October 2015) ICRC, 16. </ref> In one scenario, due to the easiness and less costly prospects, a military commander might decide to shut down an electricity grid by a cyber attack to disrupt the command and communication structures of a nearby military installation, possibly violating the principle of distinction and proportionality. In cyber warfare, like in conventional warfare, there are high chance of indirectly targeting civilian cyber infrastructure. <ref>Michael N. Schmitt, ''Tallinn Manual 2.0 on the International Law Applicable to Cyber Operations'' (CUP 2017) 348-50.</ref> == G. Interplay with Other Fields of Public International Law == Decades ago, the law of war represented the ''lex specialis'' (Latin: 'special law') in war-related matters.<ref>See e.g. Chapter 14 in: Fleck (ed.), The Handbook of International Humanitarian Law, 4th ed, CUP 2021.</ref> With the adoption of the 1949 Geneva Conventions and the 'humanisation' of the law of war, there is agreement today among States and scholars that [[Public International Law/Human Rights Law|human rights]]<ref>On international human rights law, see Ciampi, §21, in this textbook.</ref> can complement the law of war under certain conditions, particularly based on non-derogable human rights such as the right to life. In turn, regional and universal human rights systems as well as the International Court of Justice have clarified questions at the intersection of human rights law and the law of war in the past decade.<ref>See e.g. IACommHR, Coard et Al. v. United States; IACommHR, Victor Saldaño v. Argentina; Report of the Special Rapporteur on the Situation of Human Rights in Occupied Kuwait, 50–54, UN Doc. E/CN.4/1992/26 from 16 January 1992.</ref> In 1996, the International Court of Justice in the advisory opinion on the ''Legality of the Threat or Use of Nuclear Weapons'' stated that <blockquote>''[. . .] the protection of the International Covenant of Civil and Political Rights does not cease in times of war, except by operation of Article 4 of the Covenant whereby certain provisions may be derogated from in a time of national emergency. Respect for the right to life is not, however, such a provision. In principle, the right not arbitrarily to be deprived of one’s life applies also in hostilities. The test of what is an arbitrary deprivation of life, however, then falls to be determined by the applicable lex specialis, namely, the law applicable in armed conflict which is designed to regulate the conduct of hostilities."''<ref>ICJ, Advisory opinion on the Legality of the Threat or Use of Nuclear Weapons, §25.</ref> </blockquote>In 2005, it specified the interplay in the ''Wall'' Advisory Opinion by stating that "''[a]s regards the relationship between international humanitarian law and human rights law, there are thus three possible situations: some rights may be exclusively matters of international humanitarian law; others may be exclusively matters of human rights law; yet others may be matters of both these branches of international law."''<ref>ICJ, Advisory opinion on the Legal Consequences of the Construction of a Wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, §106.</ref> Other fields also co-exist or apply simultaneously to the law of war. The UN International Law Commission in its work on "The Effects of Armed Conflict on Treaties" in 2011 confirmed that certain treaties continue to "in operation" during an armed conflict.<ref>See draft article 7, ILC, ‘Draft Articles on the Efects of Armed Conficts on Treaties’ (2011) UN Doc. A/66/10, paras 100–101.</ref> In an annex, the Commission included a list of treaties<ref>On international treaties, see Fiskatoris and Svicevic, § 6, Section 1, in this textbook.</ref> that presumingly continue to apply during armed conflict to the draft principles, these include treaties like international environmental law,<ref>See, e.g., Dienelt (n 48) 234 f. On international environmental law, see Poorhashemi, § 16, in this textbook.</ref> and are not suspended in case of an armed conflict.<ref>On multilateral environmental treaties and armed conflict, see. e.g. Sjöstedt,"The role of multilateral environmental agreements in armed conflict: ‘Green-keeping’in Virunga Park. Applying the UNESCO World Heritage Convention in the armed conflict of the Democratic Republic of the Congo," Nordic Journal of International Law 82.1 (2013), pp 129-153.</ref> [[Public International Law/International Criminal Law|International criminal law]] is another field of public international law that complements the law of war. In the Rome Statute, States have codified and criminalised war crimes that are conducted during hostilities, thus relating to the law of war. However, the Office of the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court can only investigate crimes as agreed upon in the Rome Statute, thus separating the law of war from international criminal law and resulting in differing legal standards. == H. Conclusion == The law of armed conflict is built around the tensions between military force on the one hand, and humanitarian considerations on the other. It regulates (and facilitates) the conduct of hostilities, while it also intends to spare civilians and the civilian population from the consequences of warfare, despite a prohibition of aggression under the jus ad bellum. The 1899/1907 Hague Regulations, the 1949 Geneva Conventions and their additional protocols, together with customary rules and the cardinal principles of the law of armed conflict determine the legality of today’s warfare. Only when the cardinal principles together with the specific regulations are complied with, then a belligerent party can launch a lawful attack against a target. These rules and principles apply to conventional warfare as well as to new technologies; they protect the civilian population, civilian objects, and protected groups and objects alike. ==Further Readings== * Commentaries to the Geneva Conventions, available at https://www.icrc.org/en/war-and-law/treaties-customary-law/geneva-conventions (open access). * ICRC, Customary IHL Database, available at https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl (open access). * ICRC, IHL Database, available at https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en (open access). * Fleck, Dieter (ed.), ''The handbook of international humanitarian law,'' Oxford University Press, 2021. == Further Resources == * ICRC, Casebook on "How does law protect in war?," available at https://casebook.icrc.org/ (open access). * ''Humanity in War'' podcast, available at https://blogs.icrc.org/law-and-policy/humanity-in-war-podcast/ (open access). * ''In and Around War(s)'' podcast by the Geneva Academy of IHL and Human Rights, available at https://soundcloud.com/user-230423719 (open access). == Summary == *This chapter sums up the primary norms, rules, actors, and subjects of the law of armed conflict. *Also, it extrapolates the ways in which the modern tools of warfare like semi-autonomous and autonomous weapons, cyber weapons, potentially, challenge the existent rules governing the conduct of hostilities in armed conflicts. Moreover, it explains how specific protected groups and object are protected in war. <!--Please do not delete the part under this comment--> {{OpenRewi/Chapter-End}} {{BookCat}} 4jtzbsh19z7heh91jwjnyokcw0b1d53 Salu, Jon! 0 441883 4520903 4520750 2025-07-02T02:01:23Z EJPPhilippines 3336753 /* Duo-ranko dia de monato penta (2-ranko dia de monato 5) */ 4520903 wikitext text/x-wiki {{rfd|Salute, Jonathan! and its translations}} <big><div class="center">Salu, Jon!</div></big> This is the start of the [https://minilanguage.com/ Mini] translation of "[[Salute, Jonathan!]]", a book by [[User:Mithridates|Mithridates]] which teaches the Occidental (Interlingue) language by the direct method, using easy vocab and building up in a fun way. This is a work in progress, so please be patient. ==Uno-ranko buku-peso (1-ranko buku-peso)== ===Uno-ranko dia de monato penta (1-ranko dia de monato 5)=== [[File:New York City (New York, USA), Empire State Building -- 2012 -- 6440.jpg|97px|thumb|Siti.]] [[File:Fountain pen writing (literacy).jpg|97px|thumb|Si i '''note''' en '''dia-buku'''.]] [[File:King_George_V_1911_color-crop.jpg|97px|thumb|Viro i '''ereki'''.]] [[File:Börje Ahlstedt helfigur sittande (photo by Sune Frack on Flickr).jpg|97px|thumb|Viro i '''no ereki'''.]] [[File:Einstein_1921_by_F_Schmutzer_-_restoration.jpg|97px|thumb|Viro e '''inteli'''.]] [[File:Robert_Wadlow_postcard.jpg|thumb|97px|Viro e '''mega'''.]] Viro i ereki en siti. Viro i note a dia-buku. Viro i mira a siti. Viro i ereki en siti? Ja, si i ereki en siti. Viro i ereki en...viro? No, si i '''no''' ereki en viro. Si i ereki en siti. Viro i ereki en rela? No, si i no ereki en rela. Si i ereki en siti. Viro i ereki en siti. Viro i note a dia-buku? Ja, si i note a dia-buku. '''Dia-buku''' i note a viro? No, dia-buku i no note a viro. Dia-buku i no note. Viro i note. '''Viro''' i note a dia-buku. Siti i mira a viro? No, siti i no mira a viro. Siti i no mira. Viro i mira. Viro i mira a siti? Ja, viro i mira a siti. Viro i ereki en ve? Si i ereki en siti. Viro i note a ke? Si i note a dia-buku. Viro i mira a ke? Si i mira a siti. Si i ereki en siti, an si i note a dia-buku, an si i mira a siti. Viro i ''ereki'' en dia-buku? No, si i ''note'' en dia-buku. Viro i mira a viro? No, si i no mira a viro; si i mira a siti. Viro e mega. Viro e bon, an viro e inteli. Si i pensa. Si i pensa '''de''' siti. Si i pensa: “Siti a ke? Siti e bon? Siti e mega?” Viro i note a siti? No, si i no note a siti; siti e mega. Si i note a dia-buku; dia-buku e no mega. Dia-buku i pensa de viro? No, dia-buku i no pensa. Viro i pensa. Si i pensa de dia-buku, an i pensa de siti. An si i note en dia-buku. Si i note de siti. Si i note: “Siti e bon, an siti e mega.” Si i pensa: “Siti e bon”; si i pensa '''ke''' siti e bon. Si i pensa: “Siti e mega”; si i pensa '''ke''' siti e mega. Si i pensa '''de''' siti, an si i pensa '''de''' dia-buku. Dia-buku a ke? Dia-buku e ve viro i note; si i note en dia-buku. En dia-buku, viro i note de siti. En dia-buku, viro i no note de rela; viro i ereki en siti, no en rela. Si i no pensa de rela; si i pensa de siti, siti München. Siti a ke? Si a München. München e ve? Si e ve viro i ereki. Viro e ve? Si e en München. Ja, München a mega siti, an bon siti. Viro i pensa ke München a bon siti, an si i pensa ke si a mega siti. Viro e inteli. Si i dire: “Salu, München!” Si a bon viro! Viro i ereki an pensa: “Rela e ve?” Si i mira...si i mira a rela! Si i pensa: "Rela!" Nun si i no pensa de dia-buku an no pensa de siti; si i pensa de rela! ===Linga-jura=== ====-ranko==== * uno = 1 ** uno-ranko * duo = 2 ** duo-ranko * san = 3 ** san-ranko * Monato 5 de ano 2019 a 2019.05. ** Uno-ranko dia de monato 5 a 2019.05.01. ** Duo-ranko dia de monato 5 a 2019.05.02. ** San-ranko dia de monato 5 a 2019.05.03. ====de==== * Viro i pensa '''de''' München. * Viro i note '''de''' München. * Viro i note: "Mi i mira a rela!" Si i note '''de''' rela. ===Name=== * a * bon: 👍 * de * dia-buku 📝 * dire * e * en * ereki 🧍 * inteli 🧠 * ja ↔ no * ke * mega * mira 👀 * no ↔ ja * note 🖋️ * pensa: 💭 * rela 🚂 * salu 👋 * si * siti 🏙️ * uno = 1 * ve 🗺️ 🤷‍♂️ * viro 👨🏻 ==Duo-ranko buku-peso (2-ranko buku-peso)== ===Duo-ranko dia de monato penta (2-ranko dia de monato 5)=== [[File:Siguaney Ferkeltaxi crop.tif|thumb|'''Antika''' rela.]] [[File:Orientexpress1883.JPG|thumb|'''Safari''' en rela.]] '''Nun''' viro e en rela. Si e no en München; si e en rela. Si i '''safari'''. Si i pensa: "Nun mi i safari de München go Vin. Si a bon safari. Mi i amo a safari." Si i pensa de München. Si i pensa: “Nun mi e en rela, pero '''pasa-dia''' mi i '''de''' en München. An nun mi i note a dia-buku en rela, pero pasa-dia mi i '''de''' note a dia-buku en München. An nun mi i pensa en rela, pero pasa-dia mi i de pensa en München. Pasa-dia mi i de pensa de München en München, an nun mi i pensa de Vin en rela. Nun mi e en rela, no en Vin. Pero mi i pensa an note de Vin.” Viro i nun pensa en München? No, si i nun no pensa en München. Si i pensa en rela. Pasa-dia si i '''de''' pensa en München. Si i '''dire''': “Salu, rela!” Viro e en rela, an si i safari '''go''' siti. Siti a no München; München a siti de pasa-dia. Siti a Vin; Vin a siti de '''di-dia'''. Viro i pensa de München an Vin. Si i pensa: “München i de a siti de pasa-dia, an München i de e bon. Nun si a di-dia, an mi e en rela; rela e bon. Vin i '''go''' e bon?” Viro i pensa de München: München i de a siti de pasa-dia. Si i pensa en rela: si e en rela di-dia. An si i pensa de Vin: Vin i go veni a siti de '''sige-dia'''. An si i pensa: “München i de e mega. Rela e mega. Vin i go e mega?” An si i pensa: “En München mi i '''de''' note en dia-buku. En rela mi i note en dia-buku. En Vin mi i '''go note''' en dia-buku? Ja, sige-dia en Vin mi i go note en dia-buku. Mi i amo a dia-buku.” Viro i pensa '''mui''' (si i pensa mui = si i pensa an pensa an pensa), an si i note mui. Ja, si a inteli viro. Inteli viro i note mui, an pensa mui. Si a Jon; Jon a inteli viro. [[File:Simple heart symbol - 01.png|thumb|Mi i '''amo''' a rela!]] Si i note: “Mi a Jon. Mi e en rela. Pasa-dia mi i '''de''' ereki en München; sige-dia mi i '''go ereki''' en Vin.” Si i pensa, an note: “Rela...si e bon, pero '''antika'''. Si e no '''nu'''; si e antika. En München rela e antika? Ja, rela de München e antika. Pero rela de München e bon, an mi i '''amo''' a rela de München. Pasa-dia mi i de amo a rela en München, an di-dia mi i amo a rela nun, an sige-dia mi i go amo a rela en Vin. Mi i amo a rela!” Jon i note: "München a bon siti an antika siti, an Vin a bon siti an antika siti. München an Vin e no nu, pero e bon. München an Vin a antika, pero bon siti. Siti e no nu, pero bon. Mi i amo a siti!" Jon i pensa, ke duo-ranko dia de safari e bon. Si i dire: “Di-dia i de a bon duo-ranko dia de safari. Mi i amo a safari!” ===Linga-jura=== ====pasa-dia, di-dia, sige-dia==== * pasa-dia = uno-ranko dia de monato 5 (05.01) * di-dia = duo-ranko dia de monato 5 (05.02) * sige-dia = san-ranko dia de monato 5 (05.03) ====de==== * note: di-dia mi i note, pasa-dia mi i '''de''' note * pensa: di-dia mi i pensa, pasa-dia mi i '''de''' pensa * mira: di-dia mi i mira, pasa-dia mi i '''de''' mira ====go==== * note: di-dia mi i note, sige-dia mi i '''go''' note * pensa: di-dia mi i pensa, sige-dia mi i '''go''' pensa * mira: di-dia mi i mira, sige-dia mi i '''go''' mira ====de, go==== * '''De''' München '''go''' Vin: ** München → Vin * '''De''' Vin '''go''' München: ** München ← Vin {| class="wikitable" |+ ! !1 de monato 5 (pasa-dia) !2 de monato 5 (di-dia) !3 de monato 5 (sige-dia) |- |'''note''' |Jon i de note |Jon i note |Jon i go note |- |'''pensa''' |Jon i de pensa |Jon i pensa |Jon i go pensa |- |'''mira''' |Jon i de mira |Jon i mira |Jon i go mira |- |'''a/e''' |Jon i de a/e |Jon a/e |Jon i go (veni) a/e |} ===Name=== * amo * antika * di-dia (pasa-dia → '''di-dia''' → sige-dia) * go * mui * nu * nun * pasa-dia ('''pasa-dia''' → di-dia → sige-dia) * safari * sige-dia (pasa-dia → di-dia → '''sige-dia''') {{Hello, Jonathan!}} {{shelves|Hello, Jonathan!|Constructed languages}}{{Status|0%}} qd55gsf0hfyxvcnwqtw65afpg5k1af9 User talk:Kittycataclysm 3 442343 4520781 4520676 2025-07-01T15:35:58Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 /* how is it you feel able to interfere in my sandbox? */ BTW - cute name 4520781 wikitext text/x-wiki {| class="wikitable" |+ ! colspan="2" |Talk Page Archives |- |[[User talk:Kittycataclysm/Archive 2022|2022]] |[[User talk:Kittycataclysm/Archive 2023|2023]] |} == To kitty kat == can you please stop doing what you are doing by removing what people edited and adding your own false recipes it is really not helping [[Special:Contributions/41.116.238.216|41.116.238.216]] ([[User talk:41.116.238.216|discuss]]) 11:19, 14 January 2024 (UTC) :No idea what recipies your adding, 41.116. <sup>&#8212; [[User:L10nM4st3r|<span style="color:#c71300">L10nM4st3r</span>]]</sup> / <sub>[[User talk:L10nM4st3r|<span style="color:#ce3f00">'''ROAR''' at me!</span>]]</sub> 16:52, 14 January 2024 (UTC) :Could you please be more specific? I don't know what you are referring to. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:36, 14 January 2024 (UTC) ::I followed your edits it led to me burning my kitchen i followed your citations the led to a virus that costs me $200 for me to repair [[Special:Contributions/41.116.216.82|41.116.216.82]] ([[User talk:41.116.216.82|discuss]]) 18:32, 15 January 2024 (UTC) :::Wikibooks editors are not liable for something you did. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 23:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC) ::::are you kitty Kat sir or mam [[Special:Contributions/41.116.248.36|41.116.248.36]] ([[User talk:41.116.248.36|discuss]]) 17:33, 19 January 2024 (UTC) :::::41.x, why would that matter? --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 08:10, 20 January 2024 (UTC) ::::::Stop answering questions that are not directed to you mister or whatever you are [[Special:Contributions/41.116.195.45|41.116.195.45]] ([[User talk:41.116.195.45|discuss]]) 06:42, 21 January 2024 (UTC) :::Remember to be careful with links, I feel as though this should be known already by somebody using the internet. <sup>&#8212; [[User:L10nM4st3r|<span style="color:#c71300">L10nM4st3r</span>]]</sup> / <sub>[[User talk:L10nM4st3r|<span style="color:#ce3f00">'''ROAR''' at me!</span>]]</sub> 09:13, 20 January 2024 (UTC) ::::Shut up boob face [[Special:Contributions/41.116.198.58|41.116.198.58]] ([[User talk:41.116.198.58|discuss]]) 15:01, 23 January 2024 (UTC) ==Redirect I created was deleted by you== Hi {{PAGENAME}}, I just checked my watchlist and I see that you deleted a redirect I created yesterday. I would like to apologize for creating additional work for you. My intention was to help, not to increase your work load. I will refrain from making any more changes to the cookbook from now on. Sorry to have troubled you. [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ottawahitech|contribs]]) 14:37, 26 January 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] Please don't worry about it! It's not a big issue, and you are welcome to continue contributing. It's a learning process :) —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:36, 26 January 2024 (UTC) ::@Kittycataclysm: Thank you for your gracious reply. ::Since we have not interacted before I would like to explain why I posted this in the first place. I have been part of the Wikimedia movement since 2007 (yes, I am ancient:), first at enwp exclusively until about 2012. After I was shunned from enwp in 2017 I have participated quite extensively in other sister-projects, perhaps a bit less enthusiastically than my first 10 years. ::Since I joined the movement I have had trouble with my contributions being deleted, not reverted or undone, but deleted by admins. Many of these deletion were carried out "silently", as in without telling me about the deletion. I have therefore become very sensitive about this. Deleted contributions disappear from the contribution page of participants, so for someone who only participates sporadically and uses their contribution page to refresh memory this is a real issue, especially if many of the contributions they make end up being deleted without notifications. ::I hope I am making sense? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ottawahitech|contribs]]) 19:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC) :::I can definitely understand how that would be frustrating! If helpful, I can make sure to alert upon page deletions. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:57, 28 January 2024 (UTC) ::::Thanks again for the gracious offer. I just tried to explain the way things look like from the POV of a ''low-key, low-input, good-faith'' contributor, but please do not go out of your way to treat me differently than others are treated at WB. I will continue to try and help whenever I get a chance. [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ottawahitech|contribs]]) 15:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC) == Sorry == Kittycat sorry for everything i said your editing helped a lot please forgive [[Special:Contributions/41.116.190.118|41.116.190.118]] ([[User talk:41.116.190.118|discuss]]) 12:03, 28 January 2024 (UTC) == "Zuppa toscana", not "zuppa Toscana" == Hi, your move of the "zuppa toscana" page to "zuppa Toscana" is incorrect, please read these three conversations: [[wikipedia:Talk:Pecorino romano#Requested move 19 November 2023]], [[wikipedia:Talk:Pecorino romano#Requested move 19 November 2023]], [[wikipedia:Talk: Caffè americano#Requested move 19 November 2023]]; the [[wikipedia:Title case|title case]] page states: "When using title case, all words are capitalized, except for minor words (typically articles, short prepositions, and some conjunctions) that are not the first or last word of the title." ("toscano" is an '''adjective'''). [[User:JackkBrown|JackkBrown]] ([[User talk:JackkBrown|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/JackkBrown|contribs]]) 16:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:JackkBrown|JackkBrown]]. Wikibooks is not Wikipedia, and its stylistic conventions do not necessarily apply here. As I noted on your talk page, the stylistic conventions of the cookbook here are such that recipe titles are in title case, with English (not Italian) capitalization conventions and major words capitalized. It is worth noting that each book here may have different stylistic conventions, but this is how titles should work in the cookbook. Thanks —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:25, 29 January 2024 (UTC) ::{{Ping|Kittycataclysm}} great! Forgive me. [[User:JackkBrown|JackkBrown]] ([[User talk:JackkBrown|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/JackkBrown|contribs]]) 02:56, 30 January 2024 (UTC) == [[Free Knowledge Culture Calendar]] == [[File:FLOSS calendar prototype 2022-12-13.jpg|thumb|first physical galley proof]] It largely unclear to me what clarifications you’re asking for, and I feel a bit pressured, to be honest. (Like I need to guard my content against deletionists or something.) Early on after I started publishing here, I tried to document the vision I was working towards concisely, yet accurately and in detail, on the main talk page for any potential co-authors. Did you notice that at all?... I’m trying to do a kind of innovative history book that is easy to engage, with bite-sized information that fits between two sips of coffee, e.g. to be consumed daily at breakfast or as login [[w:Message of the day|MOTD]]s. I feel like the biggest chunk of work and research is done and it’s provisionally already somewhat functional: You might not realize at first glance how much work it is to find a topic/story for each day of the year. While quality of the topics could surely be improved here and there, this work has reached a provisional conclusion. – Now all that remains is to write the stories, and that should be much more straightforward in comparison and easier to participate in. For an idea of one thing this can be, to the right there’s a photo of the first paper prototype, e.g. for the breakfast table. You are very welcome to leave point notes on individual stories, find the single best media piece for further study of a topic, work on good complementary illustrations, flesh out a story, give any actionable feedback, or come up with a better title.--[[User:Reseletti|Reseletti]] ([[User talk:Reseletti|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Reseletti|contribs]]) 19:07, 4 February 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Reseletti|Reseletti]] and thanks for the information! I queried the book because it seemed mostly abandoned for over a year, the handful of random pages I clicked on only had one sentence each, and I didn't fully understand the concept based on the talk page. It seems like a lot of the pages still need to be fleshed out (I imagine maybe a paragraph each to reasonably form a book?) Just out of curiosity, do you plan on resuming the work on the book? Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:11, 4 February 2024 (UTC) :Also I like the little feature to navigate to today's page! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:12, 4 February 2024 (UTC) == Champorado (chocolate porridge) Philippine cuisine == I added Champorado. I didn't copy paste it from a ready made recipe. I asked my mother on how to cook it. [[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] ([[User talk:Jay Bolero|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jay Bolero|contribs]]) 06:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] yes that recipe is totally fine, as is [[Cookbook:Pinakbet]]. But, where did you get [[Cookbook:Lechon Kawali (Chili-Honey Glazed Filipino Pork Belly)]]? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:13, 6 February 2024 (UTC) ::I accidentally saw that recipe. It was originally named Chili Honey Glazed Filipino Pork Belly (Lechon Kawali). ::I moved the name into ::Lechon Kawali (Chili Honey Glazed Filipino Pork Belly) [[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] ([[User talk:Jay Bolero|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jay Bolero|contribs]]) 13:26, 6 February 2024 (UTC) ::I didn't make the recipe of Lechon Kawali. It already existed in the Cookbook. I just improved it and placed it in the list of Filipino cuisine. [[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] ([[User talk:Jay Bolero|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jay Bolero|contribs]]) 13:27, 6 February 2024 (UTC) ::By the way, I made the Cookbook:Calamansi. ::Calamansi is one of the important ingredient in Filipino cuisine. [[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] ([[User talk:Jay Bolero|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jay Bolero|contribs]]) 13:29, 6 February 2024 (UTC) :::Great, thank you :) —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:08, 6 February 2024 (UTC) == The other Lechon Kawali == The last Lechon Kawali you marked as copyvio is not actually a copyvio. It has no Glazing needed. It does not need an airfryer to be cooked. [[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] ([[User talk:Jay Bolero|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jay Bolero|contribs]]) 07:44, 8 February 2024 (UTC) :This one is not a copyvio [[Cookbook:Lechon Kawali (Filipino Crispy Fried Pork Belly):|Cookbook:Lechon Kawali (Filipino Crispy Fried Pork Belly)]] [[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] ([[User talk:Jay Bolero|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jay Bolero|contribs]]) 07:46, 8 February 2024 (UTC) ::That recipe didn't violate any copyright. [[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] ([[User talk:Jay Bolero|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jay Bolero|contribs]]) 07:50, 8 February 2024 (UTC) :::The Chili Honey Glazed is the one that violated a copyright [[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] ([[User talk:Jay Bolero|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jay Bolero|contribs]]) 07:51, 8 February 2024 (UTC) ::::The two versions of Lechon Kawali recipes are different from each other. That last one is not copy pasted from an existing recipe. [[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] ([[User talk:Jay Bolero|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jay Bolero|contribs]]) 07:59, 8 February 2024 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] you can see my response on your talk page. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:06, 8 February 2024 (UTC) == My two books on Wikibooks == I wrote two books on Wikibooks entitled Bikol and the other one is Learn Baybayin. You might want to review them. [[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] ([[User talk:Jay Bolero|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jay Bolero|contribs]]) 08:01, 8 February 2024 (UTC) == AuthorsAndContributorsBot == Hi, I have stumbled upon this bot which seems to be inactive. However, it also seems to have released its source code. Can I run this bot to update the authors lists? I will create a separate account for this. -[[User:D1n05aur5 4ever|D1n05aur5 4ever]] ([[User talk:D1n05aur5 4ever|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/D1n05aur5 4ever|contribs]]) 13:12, 9 March 2024 (UTC) :Sorry for missing this @[[User:D1n05aur5 4ever|D1n05aur5 4ever]]! Are you asking whether you're allowed to create a new bot account with the source code in order to fix the inactive bot? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:05, 5 April 2024 (UTC) ::Yes, this is what I meant. [[User:D1n05aur5 4ever|D1n05aur5 4ever]] ([[User talk:D1n05aur5 4ever|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/D1n05aur5 4ever|contribs]]) 14:44, 6 April 2024 (UTC) :::I don't see why not! @[[User:JackPotte|JackPotte]] @[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] I know you both run bot accounts, so is there anything they should know before doing this? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:30, 9 April 2024 (UTC) ::::Hi {{re|Kittycataclysm}} mainly ::::* test the bot first - the [[:mw:Beta Cluster|Beta Cluster]] or [[:testwiki:|test wiki]] are good places ::::* ask for the appropriate permissions so that it does not bother patrollers. This would normally be autoreviewer if the bot is low-volume, or the bot right otherwise. ::::[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 04:47, 10 April 2024 (UTC) ::::: Hello, actually last year I had launched [[User:AuthorsAndContributorsBot/source_code]] on four pages (ex: https://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=World_Cultures/Authors_%26_Contributors&diff=prev&oldid=4285894) and it worked fine, but I've stopped because it needed to maintain [[User:AuthorsAndContributorsBot/blacklist]] and [[User:AuthorsAndContributorsBot/List of books]], or even better: to make them dynamic. [[User:JackPotte|JackPotte]] ([[User talk:JackPotte|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/JackPotte|contribs]]) 07:00, 10 April 2024 (UTC) ::::::Thank you very much! What do you mean by maintain the pages or make them dynamic? Thanks in advance, -[[User:D1n05aur5 4ever|D1n05aur5 4ever]] ([[User talk:D1n05aur5 4ever|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/D1n05aur5 4ever|contribs]]) 12:43, 26 April 2024 (UTC) == [[Sheaf Theory]] == @[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] and @[[User:Az1568|Az1568]], I don't quite understand; why was this tagged and deleted? The criterion cited says {{tq|Abandoned pages displaying intent, but no actual content}}, but I'd argue there was a decent amount of content in the few deleted pages. [[User:1234qwer1234qwer4|𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰]] ([[User talk:1234qwer1234qwer4|𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠]]) 17:27, 4 April 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:1234qwer1234qwer4|1234qwer1234qwer4]]! I believe I initially queried it while sorting through old abandoned books because the scope and future of the book were unclear to me, and I couldn't see a way forward for it. It turns out that queried books end up in candidates for speedy deletion after a certain period, which I think is how it eventually got deleted by @[[User:Az1568|Az1568]]. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:32, 4 April 2024 (UTC) ::Yep that's correct. The book has appeared largely undeveloped since 2018, and unfortunately, there were no attempts to oppose the initial query left on the book itself, nor were there attempts to expand on its content. --[[User:Az1568|Az1568]] ([[User talk:Az1568|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Az1568|contribs]]) 20:05, 4 April 2024 (UTC) :: So how exactly is this reflected in policy? [[User:1234qwer1234qwer4|𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰]] ([[User talk:1234qwer1234qwer4|𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠]]) 14:09, 14 April 2024 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:1234qwer1234qwer4|1234qwer1234qwer4]]! So, I went back to take a look at it. The book consisted of two pages, with no introduction or clarification of scope/aims/educational relevance. It seems to just have been some mathematical definitions with no accompanying educational/instructional material. It was also abandoned for several years. I only intended to query it, but it did seem to meet criteria for deletion at [[Wikibooks:Deletion policy]]. Notably, the policy says to "delete stubs that are too narrowly defined or do not have a decent definition of what they are about", which I do think applied to this book as mentioned. It's possible that it should have been a RFD instead of a speedy deletion, but I do think overall it makes sense according to policy. Cheers! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 20:02, 14 April 2024 (UTC) == Miraheze == I am patrolling [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges Miraheze's recent changes] and noticed there is username Kittycataclysm in recent changes in that wiki. Did you create this account on that wiki? [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 19:46, 10 April 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]]. Thanks for asking. No, I do not have a Miraheze account, and I am not active over there. Whoever is operating under the username "Kittycataclysm" there is not me. Since they've copied my entire user page, I assume they are impersonating me for some reason. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 20:40, 10 April 2024 (UTC) ::Looking into [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Kittycataclysm that account's CentralAuth], it had made a total of 24 edits at the writing - 19 are from Cookbookholic, 3 are from Miraheze Meta, 1 is from Miraheze Login Wiki, and 1 is from Amazing YouTubers Wiki. What is that account doing? [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 07:29, 11 April 2024 (UTC) :::No idea. I'm not going to get involved over there, since this is my home wiki. But, since you have an account there, it might be nice if you could let them know that this person is an impersonator. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:07, 11 April 2024 (UTC) == [[Special:Contributions/Favonian]] == Hello. I think you may have blocked the wrong user. A different user made their talk page. Please check their local and global contributions. Thank you for your attention. [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 13:57, 11 April 2024 (UTC) :Oh gosh, thank you for letting me know—that was a mistake on my part. Should be fixed now! Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:26, 11 April 2024 (UTC) == Jumarkese == I just want to ask, why you deleted my page "Jumarkese" on Wikibooks? And how I can revive my page? [[User:Jumark27|Jumark27]] ([[User talk:Jumark27|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jumark27|contribs]]) 11:06, 17 April 2024 (UTC) == Thanks == Wanted to say thanks for all the work you do on Cookbooks. Have a good one! :) [[User:Aekrinine|Aekrinine]] ([[User talk:Aekrinine|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aekrinine|contribs]]) 02:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC) :Thank you, that's very kind! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:06, 29 April 2024 (UTC) == Talk page cluttered == Your talk page is cluttered. I recommend implementing archiving. [[Special:Contributions/98.115.164.53|98.115.164.53]] ([[User talk:98.115.164.53|discuss]]) 17:10, 5 May 2024 (UTC) :They are free to do what they want with their talk page (as long as it's under 2 MB). --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 07:25, 6 May 2024 (UTC) == Incompelete Recipe.. == You have misnested bold formatting. When using <nowiki>'''</nowiki> you can't have soft-line-feeds in between the <nowiki>'''</nowiki> markup. If you want a line-feed use <br>, and removes the soft-line-feeds. [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/ShakespeareFan00|contribs]]) 13:39, 15 May 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] and thanks for reaching out! I think there was a misunderstanding of what I wanted the template to look like—it looked correct based on the preview after making several adjustments to the template, but the quotation marks ended up in a sloppy location. At any rate, I think I understand what you were trying to do, and I've fixed the markup positioning. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:00, 15 May 2024 (UTC) :: The script I use to identify Lints also note that you have {{tag|strike}} tags in this talk page, These are nominally deprecated. Please consider using {{tl|strike/top}} and {{tl|strike/end}} in preference. [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/ShakespeareFan00|contribs]]) 07:35, 16 May 2024 (UTC) == Lints.. == You may be interested in helping look for unclosed italics elsewhere - I made a list of everything with missing tags in ns0: https://public-paws.wmcloud.org/4407/books.txt The more that can be cleaned up the better.. [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/ShakespeareFan00|contribs]]) 18:36, 16 May 2024 (UTC) == Sderot == Hi, I have noticed your edit in [[October 7th Massacre/Sderot]]. Could you please explain why you found in necessary to remove 2,462 bytes of content? I have noticed that you have not only changed the style and the grammar, but have also removed many details that would help the reader understand the events better. Thanks in advance, -[[User:D1n05aur5 4ever|D1n05aur5 4ever]] ([[User talk:D1n05aur5 4ever|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/D1n05aur5 4ever|contribs]]) 08:46, 7 June 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:D1n05aur5 4ever|D1n05aur5 4ever]]—I am happy to explain my edits! They were based on the following: :* '''Style:''' Wikibooks uses a neutral educational style, and NPOV is important. The initial style of the chapter was less like a neutral informational text and more like storytelling, with embellishment and attention drawn to certain details in a more literary way that evokes specific images and emotions. I removed content that I felt detracted from the desired NPOV style or that I felt was otherwise distracting, etc. :* '''Caution:''' Because this book revolves around a very recent and polarizing event, the surrounding conflict of which is still ongoing and the details of which are still hotly discussed, I think it is especially important to aim for neutrality. :* '''Iteration:''' Because Wikibooks is a collaborative project, books develop from an iterative process to refine the content—it's not just a place to self-publish one's own book. You contributed the initial version, I iterated on it, and so on. :If you have specific questions about specific changes I made, I am happy to explain and discuss those as well. Cheers! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:16, 7 June 2024 (UTC) ::Hi Kittycataclysm. Thank you very much for the the detailed response. Maybe I haven’t made that clear in the initial message, but I didn’t ask why was it necessary to iterate on the text. I asked why it was necessary to remove such an extensive amount of details. I don’t feel like I have written the original text with “embellishment and attention drawn to certain details in a more literary way that evokes specific images and emotions”. Of course describing a massacre does evoke emotions, however I don’t see this as a reason not to describe the events of October 7th as they happened. -[[User:D1n05aur5 4ever|D1n05aur5 4ever]] ([[User talk:D1n05aur5 4ever|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/D1n05aur5 4ever|contribs]]) 13:36, 7 June 2024 (UTC) :::Gotcha. In terms of removing content, I removed details when I felt they met one or more of the following criteria: :::* Overly wordy/inefficient/clunky language (e.g. "They ran to the shelter, which was locked" --> "They ran to a locked shelter") :::* Indicative of subjective/non-neutral experience that is not necessary to understand the larger events that took place (e.g. "He understood on the first alarm that something isn’t right", "She was used to alarms", "it took her a while to understand what is going on", "“We behaved like in the story of Anne Frank”", "When she understood the electricity won’t come back", "The kids panicked and even told “We don't want to die, we are too little”", etc). :::* Excessive detail that is not necessary to understand the larger events that took place ("her husband, who works as a warden, had to go to work", "elderly people, including Holocaust survivors", etc). :::* Loaded language (e.g. "slaughtered" vs "killed", "terrorist" vs "attacker"/"assailant", etc) :::In some cases, I reworded things in a way that made them more concise, which decreased the overall content. Whenever I assess a sentence, paragraph, etc., I always evaluate its purpose and its effect, as well as whether it accomplishes the aims of the book and the Wikibooks project. :::Cheers! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:39, 7 June 2024 (UTC) ::::Thanks for the response! I have a few problems with it: ::::* About the locked shelter part, I think the best way to word it would be “they ran to the shelter only to find out that it was locked”. ::::* I don’t understand why the book can’t include the experiences of the witnesses. I would argue that the part saying “She was used to alarms” does indeed help understand the larger events (in that she was used to alarms since she heard many alarms before that). I didn’t really understand why a book on a massacre shouldn’t include these details. ::::* Again, please elaborate what you mean by “larger events” and by what extent an event has to be “large” in order to be noteworthy. ::::* Feels for me more like factual language than loaded. I’m not sure why calling terrorists “terrorists” is against NPOV. ::::* Thanks in advance,-[[User:D1n05aur5 4ever|D1n05aur5 4ever]] ([[User talk:D1n05aur5 4ever|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/D1n05aur5 4ever|contribs]]) 06:08, 8 June 2024 (UTC) :::::{{ping|Xania}}, what is your opinion on the topic? -08:20, 21 June 2024 (UTC) :::::Hi @[[User:D1n05aur5 4ever|D1n05aur5 4ever]]—my apologies for the delayed response! Here are my responses: :::::* '''Locked shelter:''' Here I would ask why you feel that is the best way to word it. I made the change I did in order to convey the key facts (locked shelter) in the most concise and neutral way possible. I'm curious why you don't think it is appropriate. :::::* '''Witness experiences:''' I do think witness experiences can have value here. However, I think they must be used judiciously in order to best serve the purpose and scope of the book—a near infinite number of facts, statements, details, reports, etc could be included from the events, but not all of them need to be included in this book. It is challenging to make a blanket statement about what and how many witness experiences are relevant here, and it must instead be evaluated continuously through revision. I also think it's important to make it obvious that you're citing someone else's perspective when including it (e.g. "they said", "they reported", "according to ***") rather than narrating from their perspective. :::::* '''Event and detail inclusion:''' Again, it's hard to make a blanket statement outright on what details out of the many merit inclusion, and whether something is relevant is typically determined by book scope, revision, and consensus. I would argue that for this book, it doesn't make sense to spend words describing things like what shirt someone happens to be wearing, details related to their everyday life, their detailed personal perceptual experiences, etc. :::::* '''Loaded language:''' It may be helpful to take a look at these [https://englishforjournalists.journalism.cuny.edu/2020/02/07/loaded-words/ resources] on [https://www.tckpublishing.com/loaded-language/ loaded language], as well as [[w:Loaded language]] for context and overall guidance. Regarding the term "terrorist" specifically, [[w:Terrorism#Definition]] may be helpful as well—note its status as a charged and disputed term with strong non-neutral connotations. The term "attacker" still correctly describes the events taking place without inadvertently inserting strong connotations and leaning into political territory. :::::Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 15:36, 21 June 2024 (UTC) ::::::Thanks for the reply! ::::::* My problem with “locked shelter” is that it kind of makes it sound as if they knew the shelter was locked when they ran towards it. ::::::* I think I made it clear that I’m citing other people’s perceptive, however if not, I’m willing to edit the text. ::::::* Details about personal lives of people were only included when they helped the reader understand the events. We can’t assume the reader to be familiar with the frequency of alarms in Sderot. That’s why I think it’s necessary to explain that while she was used to alarms, this event was unprecedented. Such details help the reader understand the event better. In my opinion such an unprecedented event such as the October 7th massacre deserves a detailed book describing the events that took place. ::::::* I’m not convinced that the word “terrorist” is a politically loaded word. I still think it’s simply a factual description of them, though the word “attacker” is still technically correct. ::::::Cheers! -[[User:D1n05aur5 4ever|D1n05aur5 4ever]] ([[User talk:D1n05aur5 4ever|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/D1n05aur5 4ever|contribs]]) 19:34, 21 June 2024 (UTC) == A little advice == Hello, I am currently on working on [[Cookbook: Honey Mug Cake]]. Any advice or anything to help? I can't help but feel something is missing from it. [[User:Soapyduck|Soapyduck]] ([[User talk:Soapyduck|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Soapyduck|contribs]]) 09:35, 27 June 2024 (UTC) :Hello! I went through and made some edits, which you can see in the revision history. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:20, 28 June 2024 (UTC) == Accessibility == The structure you chose for [[Cookbook:Schwarzwälder Kirschtorte (Black Forest Cake) II]] has the unfortunate side effect that people can't link to the first four subsections in ==Procedure==. [[Cookbook:Schwarzwälder Kirschtorte (Black Forest Cake) II#Cake]] will take them to the first. Do you have any ideas about how to make these later sections accessible to everyone? [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhatamIdoing|contribs]]) 06:19, 9 July 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]]—thanks for checking in! In order to link to a second identical heading, you just use an underscore plus an index. So, to link to the second cake heading, you would use this: [[Cookbook:Schwarzwälder Kirschtorte (Black Forest Cake) II#Cake_2]]. Hope this helps! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:10, 9 July 2024 (UTC) ::That's nice for the few of us who know that trick, but it doesn't help the 99.9999% of readers who aren't experts in MediaWiki's quirks. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhatamIdoing|contribs]]) 23:35, 9 July 2024 (UTC) :::It's not ideal, but it's also the best we can do for now. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 23:52, 9 July 2024 (UTC) ::::The original structure for the page had no duplicate section headings. Perhaps we should go back to that. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhatamIdoing|contribs]]) 00:43, 10 July 2024 (UTC) :::::Hi @[[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]]. I definitely understand your concern. However, the changes I made were to bring the recipe into alignment with the recipe template and all other recipes in the Cookbook. It is also a very common current standard for recipe-writing in English. Moreover, I think this kind of linking is actually very simple and very easy to teach/communicate—much more so than some other common MediaWiki features—and it is not unreasonable to expect editors to learn editing tips and tricks like this over time from more experienced users. You asked, and now you know a simple new trick to help with editing :) As an aside, I'm also not sure how often linking to subheadings like this is even used in the Cookbook, so I don't think it's a very big issue at the moment. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC) ::::::Perhaps, if the standard recipe template creates accessibility problems for blind readers, we should have a better recipe template. ::::::BTW, I've been editing for about 18 years now, so unlike you, I was around when that "simple new trick" was introduced to MediaWiki. I know how it works. This is a problem for '''readers''', not for me personally. The problem isn't when an editor wants to put a link to the section (which happens on the talk page more often than in the cookbook). Imagine that a reader wants to ask a friend about this recipe. Think about a social media post that says "I'm confused by the directions in [[Cookbook:Schwarzwälder Kirschtorte (Black Forest Cake) II#Cake]] ". That won't end up where the reader expected it to go, right? And while people who (like me) have made more than 100K edits at Wikipedia will probably know what to do, a reader is not going to be able to fix it. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhatamIdoing|contribs]]) 21:27, 13 July 2024 (UTC) :::::::@[[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] I definitely agree with you that web inaccessibility is a problem! I'm just having a hard time understanding this particular case. I find it hard to imagine someone who '''is''' savvy enough to know that you can link to specific subheadings by hashing, but '''isn't''' savvy enough to know about the indexing system to modify it. Have you seen this come up as a problem before? At any rate, I've modified the headings here so they are specific enough to not need the indexing. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:13, 14 July 2024 (UTC) ::::::::Yes, it happens sometimes. That's one of the reasons why enwiki requires unique section headings. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhatamIdoing|contribs]]) 00:07, 15 July 2024 (UTC) == Wikiphilosophers == I saw your comment on [[Wikiphilosophers]]. Indeed, the whole idea of it is that people can put their own philosophical ideas on a subpage of their own. I discussed the proposal for the project on Meta-Wiki (see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiphilosophers). There it was suggested that the project should first take shape on Wikibooks, if before becoming its own project. Personally, I think a own platform for Wikiphilosophers is also best, but I don't know how else to do it either? I look forward to hearing from you! Kind regards, [[User:S. Perquin|S. Perquin]] ([[User talk:S. Perquin|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/S. Perquin|contribs]]) 03:32, 21 July 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:S. Perquin|S. Perquin]]! Thank you, and I read through the discussion you linked. Unfortunately, based on your envisioning of the project, I'm thinking that Wikibooks isn't the best place for it. You can take a look at [[WB:NOTMETA]], and generally [[Wikibooks:What is Wikibooks?]] for details. Specifically, Wikibooks is for creating instructional books based on preexisting documented knowledge, which Wikiphilosophers doesn't really match the way you've described it. I'm thinking that if any existing WMF project were to host this, it would be Wikiversity. I'd recommend checking out [[Wikiversity:What is Wikiversity?]] and [[Wikiversity:Wikiversity:Research|Wikiversity:Research]], as well as asking there if your project could have a home there. Hope this is helpful! Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:12, 21 July 2024 (UTC) ::Thank you! I will post a message in the [[Wikiversity:Colloquium|Colloquium]]! Kind regards, [[User:S. Perquin|S. Perquin]] ([[User talk:S. Perquin|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/S. Perquin|contribs]]) 16:29, 21 July 2024 (UTC) :::I have permission to continue working on my project there. I have transferred all the information from Wikibooks to Wikiversity. All pages on Wikiphilosophers can therefore be deleted on Wikibooks! Could you take care of this? Kind regards, [[User:S. Perquin|S. Perquin]] ([[User talk:S. Perquin|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/S. Perquin|contribs]]) 18:42, 22 July 2024 (UTC) ::::Excellent—I'm glad to hear your project has found a home! I will delete any residual pages here. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:25, 22 July 2024 (UTC) == [[JLPT Guide/JLPT N5 Grammar]] ([[special:diff/4424284]]) == The edit is partially correct and partially questionable. For example, せんせいい is an obvious typo (せんせい is accurate), and でんしゃ is the correct reading for 電車. However, converting 行(い)きます to いきます can be disputed (this can be considered as simplification, but others may prefer the usage of 行). I'm not sure if the IP editor is a native speaker (the ISP is in the UK), so I think we need to keep an eye on this page. [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 13:09, 26 July 2024 (UTC) :I thought providing furigana for 'to go' might be an oversimplification but it's also there for other basic verbs like 'to eat'. Why is this person rejecting edits on a language they don't speak anyway? It would have taken 2 seconds to verify them with a dictionary. [[Special:Contributions/2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:E1D4:C6B3:2E:3919|2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:E1D4:C6B3:2E:3919]] ([[User talk:2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:E1D4:C6B3:2E:3919|discuss]]) 15:39, 26 July 2024 (UTC) ::Thank you both for the information! Because 1) there is often vandalism by IPs in non-English content and 2) Wikibooks lacks enough users to do detailed vetting, I tend to be very conservative regarding this kind of edit when not accompanied by an explanation in the edit summary. I am happy to restore the initial edit since an explanation has now been provided. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:08, 26 July 2024 (UTC) == Wrong deletion == hello!I noticed that you deleted the edits I made to Lesson 12 of the Chinese textbook. Please give it back to me, and undo your deletion so I can continue working. [[User:见水思源|见水思源]] ([[User talk:见水思源|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/见水思源|contribs]]) 05:04, 3 August 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:见水思源|见水思源]]. I deleted that page because of the following reasons taken together: :# It seemed very much out of scope with the rest of the book. :# It was written largely in a non-English language, beyond what would be expected for a language-teaching book. :# It was created by an anonymous IP. :# There have been multiple bad page creations for that page. :Could you please explain how your page contributes meaningfully to the book in its current scope? Thanks! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC) ::Hi, here are my answers :) ::1. I don't think it's out of scope, just like Lesson 11 of the book, it's a quoted Chinese text, designed to let students learn how real Chinese people speak ::2. This lesson does use a lot of non-English language, but that's because I decided to take a break and wait until the next day to complete it (including the supplementary English part) ::3. Like you mentioned, this is indeed created by an anonymous IP. The interesting thing is that this IP is mine, I'm a newcomer, and this is my first time contributing to the wiki. After I sent my work, I realized that I needed to create an account to save my work ::4. There is indeed a lot of vandalism on this page, and I saw it. But this doesn't mean that what I wrote is also meaningless text ::Like I said, that IP is mine, and I decided to finish my work the next day. But when I opened the page, I found it was deleted. I was angry because I spent a lot of time to finish it. So I hope you can give it back to me and let me finish the unfinished part. ::I am new here, which means I don't have a lot of experience, and I look forward to your suggestions on my work, thank you! [[User:见水思源|见水思源]] ([[User talk:见水思源|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/见水思源|contribs]]) 06:56, 4 August 2024 (UTC) :::@[[User:见水思源|见水思源]] thank you for clarifying—I have restored the chapter. Please make sure to incorporate it into the rest of the book. For example, please change the chapter title to match the other chapters, include it in the table of contents, and use the same formatting and structure as the other lesson chapters. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:03, 4 August 2024 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]]I'm glad to see them back, your advice is spot on. I noticed that the chapter headings don't seem to match the main table of contents, I'll make them fit by modifying the title text and body content appropriately。Thank you! [[User:见水思源|见水思源]] ([[User talk:见水思源|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/见水思源|contribs]]) 16:12, 4 August 2024 (UTC) ::For the whole book, I think I have filled a blank page, and I think after I fill it, this page must be more meaningful than a blank page. [[User:见水思源|见水思源]] ([[User talk:见水思源|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/见水思源|contribs]]) 10:49, 4 August 2024 (UTC) == Seeking to Improve My Project's Formatting == Hi there, I'm currently building [[Physics Explained Through a Video Game]] which you recently reviewed. As a question, is the inclusion of numerous video examples for the content I've written (such as for the existing materials in Unit 2 of my book) problematic? I feel that it provides a more intuitive explanation of many of the discussed concepts and may be more engaging for my target audience (high schoolers). However, I'm concerned that it's making the pages overly cluttered. Aside from this, are there any other ways that I can improve the existing content for the project? Thank you in advance. [[User:TheMonkeyEatsBananas|TheMonkeyEatsBananas]] ([[User talk:TheMonkeyEatsBananas|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheMonkeyEatsBananas|contribs]]) 05:38, 4 August 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:TheMonkeyEatsBananas|TheMonkeyEatsBananas]]! From my cursory look at the book, the formatting seems generally quite reasonable. I don't have the capacity at the moment to take a detailed look at the specific construction to assess optimization. But, I don't think you have anything to be worried about. Cheers! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:38, 5 August 2024 (UTC) == [[commons:HotCat]] == It's normally meant for Commons, but could help you with your categorisation work on this wiki. I don't think we have it as a gadget on this wiki, so just install it on your Commons.js - I could do it for you if you want. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 05:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC) :Thank you for letting me know about this! I always wondered if there was a way to install it on other wikis. Would you be able to help me with it this time? I've never installed any scripts here before. Thanks again! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:22, 3 September 2024 (UTC) ::Sorry, seeing this only now. I see that you have copied the code of HotCat, but I've replaced it with a direct link to HotCat on Commons. This ensures that you always have the latest version on the wiki. Can you check and let me know if you have any issues using that extension? [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 19:09, 14 September 2024 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]]! Unfortunately, replacing it with the direct link has disabled the tool for me. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 20:04, 14 September 2024 (UTC) ::::Apologies, can you try now (clearing your cache if needed)? [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 04:26, 15 September 2024 (UTC) :::::Yup, it's working again—thank you! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:46, 15 September 2024 (UTC) :Sorry for butting in here, but I use hotcat a lot on many different projects so was surprised to find out that it is "meant for Commons". Actually IIRC I was/am having trouble using it on commons? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ottawahitech|contribs]]) 14:11, 10 November 2024 (UTC) == Why did you remove the roadmap in Unicode/Versions? == OK, So why did you remove the roadmap in Unicode/Versions? I should re-add that and people will see the roadmap in this page and on the Unicode site. [[User:MatthewtheUnicoder|MatthewtheUnicoder]] ([[User talk:MatthewtheUnicoder|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MatthewtheUnicoder|contribs]]) 18:41, 14 September 2024 (UTC) == Biology of the siphonophore == The page [[biology of the siphonophore]] was not an accident or test it was to make a page about siphonophores. Please understand to get rid of Query. [[User:Atlas Þə Biologist|Atlas Þə Biologist]] ([[User talk:Atlas Þə Biologist|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Atlas Þə Biologist|contribs]]) 23:30, 19 September 2024 (UTC) == Chicken à la King recipe change == Hi, regarding {{diff|4440187}}, I could understand rejecting such a drastic change if someone else had originally posted the recipe, but it's my own recipe (based on my own cooking experience) and no one but you and I have ever even edited the page, so I thought (and still think) it's OK to change it so much. [[User:Mahagaja|Mahagaja]] ([[User talk:Mahagaja|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mahagaja|contribs]]) 07:44, 7 October 2024 (UTC) :That's a good point! I think if it's your recipe, it makes sense to make this change. Cheers! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:18, 7 October 2024 (UTC) == AI == Hi {{PAGENAME}}, Not sure if you remember me. I was fairly active at enwb for a few months until the beginning of this year IIRC. Any way I came across a page on Meta [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Future_Audiences/Experiments:_conversational/generative_AI Future Audiences/Experiments: conversational/generative AI] which you may or may not be familiar with. I vaguely remembered discussions in the ''reading room'' about the use of AI on this project, so thought you may be interested. Hope I am not wasting your time. Cheers, [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ottawahitech|contribs]]) 14:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] thank you for letting me know! I will take a look. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 17:36, 10 November 2024 (UTC) == [[Level-specific min and max]] == You added {{tl|query}} to that page, but I have marked it for speedy deletion, since it appears to have been created by a [[Special:GlobalBlockList/173.76.103.74|cross-wiki spammer]].<span id="JJPMaster:1732989180705:User_talkFTTCLNKittycataclysm" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] ([[User talk:JJPMaster|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|contribs]]) 17:53, 30 November 2024 (UTC)</span> :Note: a [[m:global sysop|global sysop]] has deleted the pages.<span id="JJPMaster:1732996822179:User_talkFTTCLNKittycataclysm" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] ([[User talk:JJPMaster|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|contribs]]) 20:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC)</span> ::Got it, thank you! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:19, 30 November 2024 (UTC) == Pseudo-bot flag == You might want to grant yourself that. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 00:54, 12 December 2024 (UTC) == Question == Hello I noticed that my comment asking about where I could get english book was unfairly deleted could you help me find clarity. [[User:Iyazi babanne|Iyazi babanne]] ([[User talk:Iyazi babanne|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Iyazi babanne|contribs]]) 15:29, 13 December 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Iyazi babanne|Iyazi babanne]]—I'm not sure what you mean. Could you clarify what you're looking for? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:55, 14 December 2024 (UTC) ::A drama book [[User:Iyazi babanne|Iyazi babanne]] ([[User talk:Iyazi babanne|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Iyazi babanne|contribs]]) 05:57, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :::I recommend taking a look at [[Shelf:Performing arts]]. [[Department:Humanities]] might also be helpful. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:33, 14 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Okay let take a look at it ::::I will tell you if I found it [[User:Iyazi babanne|Iyazi babanne]] ([[User talk:Iyazi babanne|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Iyazi babanne|contribs]]) 14:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :::::I've found it thank you very much ♥️♥️ [[User:Iyazi babanne|Iyazi babanne]] ([[User talk:Iyazi babanne|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Iyazi babanne|contribs]]) 15:19, 14 December 2024 (UTC) == Thank you == Thanks for helping me [[User:Iyazi babanne|Iyazi babanne]] ([[User talk:Iyazi babanne|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Iyazi babanne|contribs]]) 15:21, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :You're welcome! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:32, 29 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Template:Cookbookwelcome]] == Did you know there is a cookbook-specific template exists at [[Template:Cookbookwelcome]], which was created back in 2005, which is almost 20 years ago? You created another cookbook-specific template, [[Template:Cookwelcome]]. Thanks. [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 08:58, 19 December 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]]—yes, I am aware of that old template. For historical posterity, I created a new template deliberately instead of changing the old one dramatically to suit my needs. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:29, 19 December 2024 (UTC) == You have been bested == I have officially overtaken you as the [{{fullurl:xtools:adminstats/en.wikibooks.org/2024-01-01/2024-12-22|actions=import}} most active importer of 2024]. You put up a good fight (even though this wasn't a fight in the first place), but nevertheless, I have now reached your level of greatness. You are free to decide how you intend to handle this situation.{{FBDB}} [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 19:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC) == Note on Luna tests == It is preferable that you use [[User talk:Sandbox for user warnings]] for any tests of Luna's features rather than your own talk page. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 18:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC) :Fair point! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:10, 27 December 2024 (UTC) == That IP range calculator == Following [[phab:T381138|T381138]], I have now become the maintainer of the IP range calculator you like. You can find it [[toolforge:ftools/general/ip-range-calc.html|here]]. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 23:10, 9 January 2025 (UTC) :Thank you for the heads-up! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:56, 10 January 2025 (UTC) == A merge and unmerge from two years ago == I was browsing through the history merge log when I saw that you merged [[Cookbook:Chicken Bog]] into [[Cookbook:Chicken Bog I]], and then promptly reverted it. What happened here exactly? Could I correct it? [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 15:55, 10 January 2025 (UTC) :Good question! I can't remember what I was trying to do, but it looks like I didn't succeed at what I wanted based on the log comment. You're just trying to history merge to get [[Cookbook:Chicken Bog I]] to have continuity of history? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:35, 10 January 2025 (UTC) ::I think I figured out your mistake: it outright moved the revisions from the first page to the second, rather than copying them. This would have caused the other two [[Cookbook:Chicken Bog]] pages to have incomplete histories. I think the only solution would be to XML import the pre-April 2023 revisions from the first page to the other three, and I'm not sure if that's the best idea, and I am technically unable to do so. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 16:49, 10 January 2025 (UTC) == Undeletion request == I wouldn't be surprised if you expected this, but I'd like to ask you to undelete the subpages of [[Rotorcraft Fundamentals]] you just deleted with the summary "Use of copyrighted work without permission. Please read Terms of Use: page needs to be imported for attribution", so that I can do that. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 19:54, 14 January 2025 (UTC) :Done! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:57, 14 January 2025 (UTC) ::Upon further investigation, this might actually be a rare case where an [[WB:UT|unmerged transwiki]] is ''preferred'' (this is part of why I stopped calling them "bad transwikis"), since only a small portion of the Wikipedia article (with over 2,000 revisions) was copied over. Importation is generally only needed if the ''majority'' of the page is copied across wikis. I'll just leave a null edit providing attribution and add {{tlx|Copied}}. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 21:19, 14 January 2025 (UTC) == Reusing [[Cookbook:8 Desserts in 1 Pan]] on wikiHow == Hi, I am a user on wikiHow, see [[wikihow:User:Xeverything11]]. I would like to create a new recipe on wikiHow. I wanted to let us know if I can give permission to reuse your contributions to this recipe from Wikibooks to wikiHow. I (as a copyright holder) created this recipe on Wikibooks, but you contributed to this recipe. If not, I'll use the revision before you contributed since I was the only author. Wikibooks uses CC-BY-SA 4.0 while wikiHow uses CC-BY-NC-SA 3.0, which both licenses are incompatible due to ShareAlike conditions. Thanks [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 08:27, 15 January 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] I'm personally fine with this as long as proper attribution is given back to the original recipe page here. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:52, 20 January 2025 (UTC) ::I adapted this [[wikihow:Make-8-Desserts-in-1-Pan|recipe]] on wikiHow with attribution, and got a Rising Star (an achievement used for best new articles on wikiHow). Thank you! [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 19:49, 24 January 2025 (UTC) == Wikibooks community == Hi, @[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]]! I am trying to contribute more to English Wikibooks. My main contributions will focus on the Cookbook, especially on Indonesian recipes. Do you have a community group where we can discuss and share ideas together? I am looking forward to join. Thank you! [[User:Raflinoer32|Raflinoer32]] ([[User talk:Raflinoer32|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Raflinoer32|contribs]]) 08:47, 16 January 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Raflinoer32|Raflinoer32]] Sorry I missed this, and welcome! Are you asking about a Cookbook-specific area for discussion? Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:39, 20 January 2025 (UTC) ::Yes. Do you know place for this? ::Thank you ::[[User:Raflinoer32|Raflinoer32]] ([[User talk:Raflinoer32|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Raflinoer32|contribs]]) 09:41, 21 January 2025 (UTC) :::Honestly, there's not a centralized Cookbook-specific discussion space, especially since there aren't currently a ton of active contributors. Some people ask questions at [[Cookbook talk:Table of Contents]]. I'm currently the most consistently active and involved Cookbook editor, so feel free to ask me questions! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:46, 22 January 2025 (UTC) == Congratulations! == [[File:Admin T-shirt.svg|thumb|You get this now.]] You are now a permanent administrator. Welcome to the team (I am entitled to say this because I technically got the extension a few hours before you did)!{{FBDB}} [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 10:33, 29 January 2025 (UTC) :Thanks :) —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:29, 29 January 2025 (UTC) == Is there a way to contact a Steward on WikiBooks? == Hi {{PAGENAME}}, Is there a way to contact a Steward on WB? I tried to find who the active Stewards are here at [[Special:ActiveUsers?username=&groups%5B%5D=steward&wpFormIdentifier=specialactiveusers]] but nothing shows up. The reason I am asking is that I believe that all individual Wikimania-wikis should have a backward link to the [[Wikimania-wiki]], but I just visited the [[wikimania 2014 wiki]] and could not find this backward link. I tried to ask about this on the [[Wikimania 2014 main-page talk]] but disovered that the Stewards have protected it. Is there a way wikibookians can communicate with Stewards at WB? Thanks in advance for answering this non-urgent question, and apologies for all the red-links which I can bluify if needed. Cheers [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ottawahitech|contribs]]) 16:37, 7 February 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] You can ask this on somewhere like [[metawiki:Steward requests/Miscellaneous]]. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 17:01, 7 February 2025 (UTC) <s>:@[[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] seconding what Leaderboard said—we no longer have any active stewards at enWB.</s> Had a brain fade there and mixed up stewards with bureaucrats. Yes, meta is the place for this. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:15, 7 February 2025 (UTC) ::@Kittycataclysm,@[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]], or anyone else: ::Some wikibookians prefer for various reasons to post only at wb. I myself am indef-blocked at META so could not participate at [[metawiki:Steward requests/Miscellaneous]] even if I waned to. ::Since [[Wikimania]] is a topic of interest to all members of the [[wikimedia movement]] why can't wikibookians talk to thier elected representatives here? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ottawahitech|contribs]]) 20:56, 7 February 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] I can check with the blocking admin to see if they'd be willing to unblock you, if you'd like. The reason things like these are done at Meta is that Meta is a cross-project coordination platform - stewards ''cannot'' be expected to watch every project after all. Now you could message any steward here on Wikibooks if you really wanted to, but that is not normally a good idea. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 02:26, 8 February 2025 (UTC) ::::Wikimania is the annual conference celebrating all the free knowledge projects hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF). It is a wikimedia initiative which is meant to help all of our projects (including wikibooks), gain more readership, educate more wiki-editors, foster better communications, and much more. The wmf has been hosting a Wikimania-wiki dedicated to each Wikimania annual event since 2004. These wikis contain a wealth of information, but can benefit from wiki-improvements, starting from spelling and grammar errors that detract from their to appeal to the general membership. It would be nice if Stewards paid more attention to it. ::::@[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]], I truly appreciate your offer, but I posted this here not in order to get someone to advocate for one unblocking at META. As I said earlier: ::::* "Some wikibookians prefer for various reasons to post only at wb" ::::* "The reason I am asking is that I believe that all individual Wikimania-wikis should have a backward link to the Wikimania-wiki, but I just visited the wikimania 2014 wiki and could not find this backward link. I tried to ask about this on the Wikimania 2014 main-page talk but disovered that the Stewards have protected it" ::::I would much rather see more wikimedia members question blocking in general at META. One cannot run such large movement of people from different backgrounds and nationalities simply by silencing minorities IMIO. [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ottawahitech|contribs]]) 20:12, 8 February 2025 (UTC) == [[Crystal ball]] == That page appears to be a mixture of isolated paragraphs from [[w:Crystal ball|Crystal ball]], hence my tag. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 03:04, 9 February 2025 (UTC) :Yep, that seems correct! I also queried it simply because it does not seem suitable for inclusion at all. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 03:09, 9 February 2025 (UTC) == Question about an edit suggestion == Hi Kittycataclysm, Thanks for the great work you do as an admin! I wanted to clarify a suggestion you made on a recently published page I’m working on. You recommended splitting it into smaller sections—would you suggest creating separate pages for these sections, or would a higher-level header for some topics be sufficient? Any specific recommendations you have would be greatly appreciated! Here’s the link to the page I’m referring to: [[Funding and Finance of Transportation Projects in the United States of America]] Thank you! [[User:Svrmustafa|Svrmustafa]] ([[User talk:Svrmustafa|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Svrmustafa|contribs]]) 18:19, 18 February 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Svrmustafa|Svrmustafa]], and thanks for asking! Splitting refers to creating new pages, each with a smaller amount of content. The main page should then contain a table of contents, and each page can contain a navigation template for easier navigation. I'll create the table of contents based on the current work and move some content to one of those pages as an example for you; then, you can do the rest. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:26, 19 February 2025 (UTC) ::Following up on this—I noticed that you use the term "paper". However, technically Wikibooks hosts books not papers, so you should probably change this wording. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:38, 19 February 2025 (UTC) == Talkback == {{Talkback|Cookbook talk:Chilli Crab|Recipe Questions}} [[User:Cactusisme|Cactusisme]] ([[User talk:Cactusisme|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cactusisme|contribs]]) 09:54, 19 February 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] I also made [[Cookbook:Prata|this]] [[User:Cactusisme|Cactusisme]] ([[User talk:Cactusisme|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cactusisme|contribs]]) 10:15, 19 February 2025 (UTC) == Hello == Can you look at my latest recipe? [[User:Cactusisme|Cactusisme]] ([[User talk:Cactusisme|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cactusisme|contribs]]) 00:10, 28 February 2025 (UTC) :I saw it! It needs a few corrections, which I'll note. What's the origin of the recipe? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 03:23, 28 February 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] How do you write recipe summary, correct headers [[User:Cactusisme|Cactusisme]] ([[User talk:Cactusisme|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cactusisme|contribs]]) 06:04, 28 February 2025 (UTC) :::Please see [[Cookbook:Policy/Recipe template]]. What's the origin of the recipe? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:08, 28 February 2025 (UTC) ::::ok [[User:Cactusisme|Cactusisme]] ([[User talk:Cactusisme|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cactusisme|contribs]]) 02:33, 1 March 2025 (UTC) == Cookbook == Hi there, Kittycataclysm. I wandered over here from Wikipedia, and I'm quite enamoured with this cookbook. I noticed you seem to be the one maintaining it, and I thought I'd reach out. Can I really just start cranking out recipes from public domain cookbooks and my family recipes? It's that simple? I was also wondering about the featured recipes section. There's not very many in there, and I imagine there's not very many folks around to do reviews compared to GAR on Wikipedia. How do you handle content review? Thanks. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 01:51, 1 March 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] and welcome! For some context, the Cookbook has been around since the very beginning of Wikibooks, but it had gotten into a bit of disarray over the course of about two decades by the time I found it. I started the long process of overhauling, standardizing, and expanding it just over four years ago—I finished standardizing the recipe formatting and quality a while back and am currently working my way through the ingredient pages before moving on to equipment, techniques, and cuisines. You can absolutely add any public domain recipes as well as your own recipes—they just need to conform to the [[Cookbook:Policy/Recipe template|recipe template]] and [[Cookbook:Policy|Cookbook policy overall]]. It's even better if you've made the recipe and can contribute a nice picture and specific guidance/instructions/notes! Please feel free to ask me any questions. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:27, 1 March 2025 (UTC) ::Oh, and regarding the featured recipes section, I actually haven't gotten around to looking into that yet—there's been a lot to do! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:28, 1 March 2025 (UTC) ::That's great, thanks a lot for your response. This is just delightful. Maybe content review is something that we could collaborate on. There's a lot of recipes in here and it would be nice to know which ones are the best. Question for you, [[:Category:Brown sauces]] is really bothering me. How can I move that to Brown sauce recipes? [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 02:29, 1 March 2025 (UTC) :::Good catch on that category! It seems like it was created two decades ago and never got corrected—feel free to recategorize those recipes. Thank you also for introducing the hideprefix parameter to the category trees—I didn't realize that was an option, and it reduces the visual clutter! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:38, 1 March 2025 (UTC) ::::My pleasure! As I continue to look at the categories, this is actually worse than I thought. We have both [[:Category:Sauce recipes]] and [[:Category:Recipes for condiments]] and I suspect that's just the beginning. I want to go through and categorize everything properly, but the bones aren't even there... How long do I have to be here before it'll let me create and move around categories? [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 02:40, 1 March 2025 (UTC) :::::Regarding the categories, the category overhauling is in progress, since I address the category when I overhaul the associated page. The variation in titling is actually somewhat deliberate—I started changing it from "____ recipes" in certain cases to solve a particular categorization problem. Sometimes, there is an item that is used in recipes as an ingredient but for which there are also recipes. For example, [[:Category:Recipes for bread]] versus [[:Category:Recipes using bread]]. The different naming scheme is necessary to properly delineate the categories, and I'm working on implementing it a bit more consistently as I go. While you're still getting started, it would be great if you could check with me when something looks odd or out of place—that way I can take a look and weigh in on whether that's normal or not and maybe provide some context. Just off the top of my head, I think you will have to wait for autoreview status to make move changes. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:56, 1 March 2025 (UTC) ::::::I see what you're saying, I've been trying to wrap my head around that. Maybe it would be beneficial to try to put together some sort of a Cookbook MOS regarding category structure? It's kind of all over the place right now. Using your bread example, would it perhaps make more sense to have [[:Category:Bread recipes]] and [[:Category:Recipes using bread]]? There would be no ambiguity with just those two categories, but when you add the extra [[:Category:Recipes for bread]], that's when things start getting a little whacky. What do you think? [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 03:05, 1 March 2025 (UTC) :::::::Either that or get rid of [[:Category:Bread recipes]] and keep the other two. But one of these categories gotta go, I reckon. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 03:07, 1 March 2025 (UTC) ::::::::I see you already had the same thought as me. I think all categories should include "for" or "using". Take for example, [[:Category:Recipes for pancakes]] as opposed to [[:Category:Pancake recipes]]. Well obviously there's no recipes using pancakes. But for something like [[:Category:Recipes for gravy]], there may also be a need for [[:Category:Recipes using gravy]]. The lack of consistency in this regard means the only way to achieve consistency across the categories is by changing them over to that format. Sorry for clogging up your talk page! [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 03:18, 1 March 2025 (UTC) :::::::::Same heads-up as below—migrating this over to [[Cookbook talk:Table of Contents]] —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:10, 4 March 2025 (UTC) :Also, on [[Cookbook:Table of Contents]], could you please add a wikilink for [[Cookbook:Breakfast]], and maybe add cooknav to the top for seamless navigation between all the top level articles? Can't edit that article yet. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 02:47, 1 March 2025 (UTC) == More Table of Content Edits == Hello again. I've been going through everything and this is my list of suggestions for edits to the table of contents. Unfortunately there's not much else I can do for now, because without autoconfirmed my ability to change anything is very limited. I was going to ask for someone to check off the confirmed box for me at RfP but I can't post there either, so I guess I'll be back in four days. * Fix Bread wikilink * Remove "Creaming" from techniques, redirected to Mixing * [[Cookbook:History of Food and Cooking]] points to redirect, needs capitalized * [[Cookbook:Low-Carb]] points to redirect, needs capitalized * [[Cookbook:Cuisine of the Mediterranean]] to [[Cookbook:Mediterranean Cuisine]] for parity * Remove the S from the cuisine wikilinks on ToC, currently redirecting * Create [[:Category:Lunch recipes]], wikilink to ToC * Wikilink [[Cookbook:Dessert]] under Meals * Get rid of "Brunch"; will just be confusing alongside a breakfast and lunch category * Create [[Cookbook:East Asian Cuisine]] so I can add the recipes from [[:Category:East Asian recipes]] to it; currently is a redlink on the ToC * Change "Introductory Matter" header to just "Introduction" * Appendix and Equipment sections switch places Cheers, [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 11:46, 1 March 2025 (UTC) :I took the liberty of doing it myself in my userspace. You can just copy it over from [[User:MediaKyle/sandbox]]. Figured I'd save you the trouble of trying to figure out what I'm talking about. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 14:15, 1 March 2025 (UTC) :Circling back to this! It seems like your suggestions are getting at a couple different things. I'll try to go through them point-by-point below: :* {{xt|Fix Bread wikilink}} {{done}} :* {{xt|Remove "Creaming" from techniques, redirected to Mixing}} see below comments on TOC. :* {{xt|Cookbook:History of Food and Cooking points to redirect, needs capitalized}} {{not done}} for now because I don't fully understand the urgency and I want to triage/prioritize things for you, but please feel free to make this change yourself once you can! :* {{xt|Cookbook:Low-Carb points to redirect, needs capitalized}} {{not done}} for same reason as above. :* {{xt|Cookbook:Cuisine of the Mediterranean to Cookbook:Mediterranean Cuisine for parity}} {{not done}} for now just because we do have a lot of cuisine pages that follow the form "Cuisine of ____". It could be good to standardize, and I had been planning to do that once I got around to the cuisines. :* {{xt|Remove the S from the cuisine wikilinks on ToC, currently redirecting}} {{not done}} for same reason as other redirects :* {{xt|Create Category:Lunch recipes, wikilink to ToC}} Not quite sure what you mean here, and I didn't see what it corresponded to in your linked sandbox page :* {{xt|Wikilink Cookbook:Dessert under Meals}} {{done}} :* {{xt|Get rid of "Brunch"; will just be confusing alongside a breakfast and lunch category}} I'm not sure about this—brunch is in many places considered a separate entity, and I don't necessarily think it would cause confusion. But, overall it's hard to determine whether it should have its own page and TOC link because I haven't actually gotten around to evaluating the meal pages and what role they should play. See also the TOC notes below. :* {{xt|Create Cookbook:East Asian Cuisine so I can add the recipes from Category:East Asian recipes to it; currently is a redlink on the ToC}} {{done}} for now; however, I'm not sure yet whether it will ultimately make sense to keep that as a content page. I think content pages should be reasonably focused, and it may not be the best to have a cuisine page that is so broad. This is something I planned to consider once I made my way around the overhauling the cuisines. :* {{xt|Change "Introductory Matter" header to just "Introduction"}} The reason I made it "Introductory Matter" instead of "Introduction" is because there's already a chapter itself titled "Introduction"—it felt odd to have the entire section titled that as well. Happy to discuss other header options (e.g. "Front Matter", which is a generally accepted book term) :* {{xt|Appendix and Equipment sections switch places}} see below comments on TOC. :* '''Comments on the TOC:''' So, I think a fundamental issue with the current TOC is that it somewhat arbitrarily picks and chooses individual pages to link. It also sometimes direct-links to categories and sometimes to content pages, which I don't think we should do. Because the cookbook is so expansive, it's been established that manual indices intending to capture detail in large areas don't really make sense and quickly get bulky and out-of-date. This is why categorytree is such a useful tool! After thinking on it for a while and making some small tweaks, I think I'd ultimately like to overhaul the TOC and come to a solution that keeps a few broad headers/links to the small handful of the primary content pages while perhaps stashing away more detailed and self-updating lists in a collapsible way to reduce clutter but allow for customizable user navigation. Much to think about, and I'll probably workshop some things on the side to see how they feel. :Let me know if I've misunderstood anything! Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 03:24, 3 March 2025 (UTC) ::Thanks for the notes! Here's my thoughts: ::* On the Cuisine titling, it actually seems like [[Cookbook:Cuisine of the Mediterranean]] and [[Cookbook:East Asian cuisines]] are the only ones that don't follow the naming scheme, i.e. "[[Cookbook:African Cuisine]]", and I think that shorter titles are preferable where it makes sense. ::* On your note about East Asian Cuisine, I actually had the same thought after going through the cuisine pages. Having three separate pages for different kinds of Asian cuisine does seem a little silly, doesn't it? Do you think it might be better to combine all of them under one "Asian Cuisine", but put the different locales under separate headers? ::* On Brunch - I honestly think there's way too much ambiguity around what exactly constitutes as "brunch" to keep that in. I feel as though the term brunch more applies to the time you're eating, rather than the kind of food. I think it would be easier to keep meals that include commonly accepted breakfast foods in the Breakfast category, and things that don't fit neatly into that, into the Lunch category. This would prevent any dilemmas in the future where we can't decide whether something is breakfast or brunch. ::* You're right that it looks a little awkward to have the header as Introduction when there's a page called introduction. I still think that to say "Introductory Matter", or "Front Matter" as you mentioned, is a little long-winded and reflects a more academic tone than needed for a cookbook. Upon further reflection, I think maybe rather than worrying about the header at this point, we should perhaps think about trying to compile all of those short introductory type pages into one comprehensive introductory page. Then we likely won't even need a header for it on the ToC. ::* The ToC is definitely a bit cluttered, and it bothers me too that there's a real lack of consistency across whether the wikilinks lead to a page or a category. I'm not sure how I would feel about cutting away too much of the navigation from it, though, because just about every page on there does have a reason to be there, it's just that they're not presented very nicely. Some of it can certainly get nested or combined though. I'll play around with it over the next few days in my sandbox as well and let you know if I come up with anything. ::* As an aside, the first thing on my to-do list once my autoconfirmed comes through is to start subcategorizing all of the recipes so that they're all nicely sorted in the category trees. When you have a chance, I'd love to hear your thoughts on what we should use as the standard naming for categories. Once we determine this, I think we can also take the liberty of updating the cookbook MoS to reflect it. ::Cheers, [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 11:33, 3 March 2025 (UTC) :::Note: After writing this, I realized what you were getting at about slashing away some of the subpages. Maybe we can come up with a system where all of those subpages are under their main subpage rather than on the ToC. For example, all the Cuisines are under [[Cookbook:Cuisines]], all techniques under [[Cookbook:Cooking Techniques]], to keep the subpages off the main ToC. Also, I wonder if maybe we should try to make a centralized discussion for this somewhere, in case anyone else wants to join in at some point? [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 11:45, 3 March 2025 (UTC) ::::Heads-up: to make it easier to keep track of these and since I think they deserve their own discussions, I'm going to gradually migrate them over individually to [[Cookbook talk:Table of Contents]]. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:52, 4 March 2025 (UTC) :::::Good idea. Can you remove the semi-protection from that talk page? I see no reason why it should be protected. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 23:23, 4 March 2025 (UTC) == Cookbook ToC == Hi [[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]]. I was just wondering why you didn't respond to my above message, and started a separate sandbox for the ToC instead? It seems as though you don't really want to collaborate. It would be nice if we could work on this together. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 22:43, 2 March 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] thanks for the ping! I'm sorry you feel like I don't want to collaborate—the opposite is true, and please understand that this is good-faith editing. The reason I haven't responded to the above points is mostly since you've been modifying a bunch of content and adding suggestions lately, and I've been working my way through these while continuing with my routine contributions and real life as well—things happen a little more slowly here than on other projects, and I'm the one person dedicated to the cookbook right now. The reason I created that sandbox was because I saw [[Wikibooks:Reading room/General#Modernize the shelves|your comment]] at the reading room and wanted to play around and think about your suggestion without touching the actual TOC. You're right that it's not the best, and it's been something I've been thinking about for a bit now. Please understand also that it can be overwhelming when a new editor unfamiliar with the Cookbook begins making a high volume of edits and suggestions without having much experience with it or its history—this isn't to say that you don't have good ideas or things worth contributing. In fact, you have already made a few helpful changes, as I've mentioned. I just want to do this properly and take the time to evaluate your suggestions together with the current efforts that are underway, and that can take a bit. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:03, 2 March 2025 (UTC) ::Thanks for getting back to me. While I may be new to Wikibooks, I'm certainly not new to MediaWiki, and I've been working with small wiki projects for a number of years. Perhaps it's been a misunderstanding to some degree, but I've found my reception here to be unusually unwelcoming. The way to do this properly, as you said, would be to have discussions and form consensus. Yesterday, when you reached out to me about adding hideroot to the pages, I gave you my rationale and was more than happy to have a discussion about it, but you did not reply. I noticed a similar situation happened with [https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User_talk:Ottawahitech#Category_sorting Ottawahitech], regarding category sorting. I'm aware that you're the main person looking after the cookbook right now, which is why I reached out to you right from the get go. ::I understand why you would want to create your own sandbox to play around with options for the ToC, but I'm sure you can understand why it would draw my attention that you would do this without implementing any of the wikilink fixes I mentioned, or making an attempt to discuss it further. This came across to me as not wanting my help. ::I invite you to check out my page on Wikipedia. I've made contributions across quite a wide area of topics there, as well as the other Wikimedia projects, and this is the first time I've encountered any sort of resistance to my contributions. I think Wikibooks has enormous potential, and I'm very excited to contribute to helping it grow. On most projects, this would be something to be encouraged. I don't feel like "I'm sorry that you feel that way" was really an appropriate response. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 23:59, 2 March 2025 (UTC) :::I think you're right that this has been a mix of misunderstanding and miscommunication, and I think I can understand how things came across as unwelcoming! For whatever it's worth, I absolutely plan on circling back to the various discussions at hand (I have all the relevant pages open to return to), but it seems like the order I did things made it seem like I was ignoring you (if I'm understanding correctly). I am pretty busy, so sometimes items on my to-do list do get lost/shunted or it takes me a bit to get around to something—please don't hesitate to give me a ping if it seems like I'm taking a while to get back to something. Looking forward to more collaboration! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:49, 3 March 2025 (UTC) ::::I'm glad you can understand where I'm coming from. To clarify, my intent is not to try to rush you, or to try to push you to make changes that you don't agree with. It's really easy to misinterpret things over the Internet, and I think a short message can go a long way. I apologize if I've caused you any undue stress by coming into the cookbook and unleashing a flurry of alterations, but do rest assured that I'm not married to any of my changes, I'm always open for discussion, and I want to see the cookbook improve just like you do. The great thing about wikis is that no change is permanent. I think we'll have it in tip-top shape in no time! [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 01:19, 3 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Cookbook:Polish Doughnuts (Paczki)]] == Do you see any reason not to just add this to Featured Recipes? At least we know this one works, and it seems like this is now one of the few recipes to have a picture that actually aligns with the recipe used. I was thinking later on we'll come up with a content review system where a couple editors will actually try the recipes nominated for FR, but in the absence of that I'd just add it to the list. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 12:25, 4 March 2025 (UTC) :I'm fine with adding it to the featured recipes. You're right that we'll want to come up with a good system for this going forward, though it's lower down on my personal priority list at moment. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:15, 4 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Cookbook:Cream Cheese American Buttercream]] == Hi! I am a wikiHow user and I am planning to adapt this recipe to wikiHow. Since you contributed to this recipe, I wanted to know if I can get permission to reuse your contributions to this recipe. Thanks. [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 21:41, 4 March 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] that's fine with me as long as proper attribution and linking back to the original recipe page here are included at the top. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:28, 4 March 2025 (UTC) == [[A Companion to Our Literary Journey]] == Hi! I feel that we have started to outline the scope in a clearer and more precise way and that’s the work we are going to do with the students this and for the next years, adding more sections and content. Do you think that would be enough? [[User:Ferdi2005|Ferdi2005]] ([[User talk:Ferdi2005|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ferdi2005|contribs]]) 22:43, 6 March 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Ferdi2005|Ferdi2005]]! Yes, this seems to be reasonably outlined. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:51, 7 March 2025 (UTC) == Exercising care with copyright == When deleting a page as a copyright violation, it is important that you '''do not quote any content from the deleted page'''. If you do, then your log entry is itself a copyright violation. I have redacted a recent deletion that you performed because of this. If you want to make sure that none of your past deletions have been problematic for this reason, you can [[quarry:query/90444|run this SQL query]] to get a list of every deletion that could be eligible for redaction. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 18:32, 21 March 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] and thank you for the message. In the most recent instance that I think you're referencing, I do not see any material in the edit summary that posed a significant risk—I don't believe the few listed words would be a copyright concern. However, I do understand your concern! Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:31, 21 March 2025 (UTC) == Splitting Pages == Hi I have recently made the book on the [[History of the Nawabs of Bengal]] and you gave a notice on how you believe it should be split into smaller bits. As I am still new to wikibooks I don't know how to do this. Can you please assist me on renaming the page so I can split the page into multiple pages? @[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] [[User:Greatswrd|Greatswrd]] ([[User talk:Greatswrd|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Greatswrd|contribs]]) 19:47, 29 March 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Greatswrd|Greatswrd]]: You did it. I've removed the tag. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 22:44, 29 March 2025 (UTC) :Like @[[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] said, you're all set! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:53, 29 March 2025 (UTC) ::Thanks! @[[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] @[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] [[User:Greatswrd|Greatswrd]] ([[User talk:Greatswrd|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Greatswrd|contribs]]) 10:24, 30 March 2025 (UTC) == Minecraft book == Is it good creating pages like this, [[Minecraft#Husk]]? [[User:Cactusisme|Cactusisme]] ([[User talk:Cactusisme|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cactusisme|contribs]]) 12:43, 9 May 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Cactusisme|Cactusisme]] what do you mean? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:18, 10 May 2025 (UTC) ::are we allowed to create pages like that? like for every mob [[User:Cactusisme|Cactusisme]] ([[User talk:Cactusisme|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cactusisme|contribs]]) 10:02, 11 May 2025 (UTC) :::To be honest, I don't think the structure and formatting of the book is very good. Several of the mob pages, for example, have very little information and aren't particularly helpful on their own. If I were working on it, I would restructure the book. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:09, 11 May 2025 (UTC) ::::I am planning to do that. [[User:Cactusisme|Cactusisme]] ([[User talk:Cactusisme|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cactusisme|contribs]]) 04:19, 12 May 2025 (UTC) == Request to Review Adjusted User Page (XoriantTeam) == Hello [[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]], I hope you're well. I noticed that my user page ([[User:XoriantTeam]]) was recently deleted for appearing promotional or inappropriate for Wikibooks. Thank you for keeping the community standards in check. I’ve since revised the content with closer attention to neutrality and compliance with Wikibooks guidelines. My intent is to participate constructively, especially in areas related to digital engineering and educational content creation. If possible, I’d appreciate your help reviewing the revised version. I'm happy to share it or upload it as a file if there’s a preferred method. Please let me know how best to proceed. I welcome any suggestions and will gladly make further adjustments. Best regards, XoriantTeam [[User:XoriantTeam|XoriantTeam]] ([[User talk:XoriantTeam|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/XoriantTeam|contribs]]) 11:02, 15 May 2025 (UTC) :Hi there—you can publish an updated user page, but I'd caution you against talking about your company. Keep it limited to your involvement with Wikibooks. You may contribute productively here, but further promotional materials are grounds for an indefinite block. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:30, 15 May 2025 (UTC) == Planning to use AWB to update categories on the cookbook == Hello. I noticed in recent changes that you were moving some categories using HotCat (e.g. moving Category:Chile recipes to Category:Recipes using chile), which can be time-consuming. Therefore, I plan to help you with moving the cookbook categories by adding myself to enabledusers and enabledbots in [[Wikibooks:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPageJSON]]. Would this be fine if I assist you and to add myself to the check page? I am familiar with using AWB after testing on a non-Wikimedia project. Thank you. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 04:42, 8 June 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]]—thank you for the tip! I just installed JWB, so this should make my mass cat changes much faster. Thanks again! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:11, 8 June 2025 (UTC) :: Thank you for the information. Also, is it okay if I change (for example) [[:Category:Vinegar recipes]] to [[:Category:Recipes using vinegar]] (I can redirect the former category to the latter), given that we should move {{tq|Category:[ingredient] recipes}} to {{tq|Category:Recipes using [ingredient]}} for consistency? [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 16:57, 8 June 2025 (UTC) :::Sure thing—go ahead! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 17:53, 8 June 2025 (UTC) == Tool for even faster category changes == See [[:c:Help:Gadget-Cat-a-lot#As_your_user_gadget]]. I just [https://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=User:Koavf/common.js&action=history installed it] and used it dozens of times in a click. Let me know if you need any help. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:36, 19 June 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] Thanks! I'm having a little trouble activating it, but I'll keep trying. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:54, 19 June 2025 (UTC) ::A lot of times, a purge will do the trick. See [[:mw:Purge]]. Usually just <kbd>Ctrl+Shift+R</kbd> once or twice. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:55, 19 June 2025 (UTC) :::Took several purges, but we're set now! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:16, 19 June 2025 (UTC) == Advice on when I should run for adminship == Hi, I hope you are doing well. I am asking for some advice on when I should run for enwikibooks adminship, given the following below: Currently, I am doing some optimizations for dark mode on this project, and some of the message box/MediaWiki interface/template pages might be outdated, fully protected, or can use a little help using mw-parser-output. These unfortunately might hinder the process of updating these pages/templates for Vector 2022's dark mode.<br> Additionally, I have a solid expertise with edit filters, as I have requested some administrators to update deprecated filter variables, switching filters from warn and disallow to disallow only, and I can also monitor the filter log for potential false positives (from local or global filters). A fellow English Wikibooks administrator also said to me that they are willing to support me in a few months when I run for adminship, as I am generally trusted. I hold two advanced global permissions, and I hold an edit filter helper permission on the English Wikipedia, to be sure. Thank you for your consideration. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 01:02, 23 June 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]]—good question! I agree that you are a trusted user, and I think it would be reasonable for you to run for adminship, especially given our need to fix up technical aspects of the project. If you don't plan to commit to Wikibooks long-term (i.e. you have some projects you'd like to take a few months to complete and then be done), you can always request temporary adminship. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 17:30, 23 June 2025 (UTC) :: Thank you for your feedback, but I also plan to monitor for vandalism/spam, and to commit to reduce the administrative assistance reading room backlog, should I be elected for adminship (and I forgot to mention those). Anyway, regarding your feedback, I might run by August or even July, given that I've lately started contributing more often to Wikibooks. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 18:29, 23 June 2025 (UTC) ::: [[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]], I am pinging you one more time to see if you have read my response above yours. Thank you. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 16:34, 26 June 2025 (UTC) ::::Hi @[[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]]! I'm not sure what you mean—was there an additional question you had? Everything you've outlined seems quite reasonable. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:26, 26 June 2025 (UTC) ::::: Apologies for the confusion, I don't have any questions to ask. I was clarifying that I can help with implementing edit requests and to block obvious vandals and spammers, aside from the skills I mentioned earlier. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 18:32, 26 June 2025 (UTC) == how is it you feel able to interfere in my sandbox? == you deleted a page in my sandbox that was my way of providing my response to a request from an OpenSCAD dev team leader for a couple of text blurbs for use on a web page of the OpenSCAD site. now that you have deleted my page i have to recreate the texts from a screenshot to be able to offer the suggestions, which i will This kind of high handed treatment is what keeps me from being a wiki-anything contributor .. If it is Wiki policy to interfere in the documentation of an open source project because it is hosted on Wikibooks then i will take up the task of moving our online docs to a site where you cannot interfere. -- [[User:VulcanWikiEdit|VulcanWikiEdit]] ([[User talk:VulcanWikiEdit|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/VulcanWikiEdit|contribs]]) 21:56, 29 June 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:VulcanWikiEdit|VulcanWikiEdit]]—thanks for bringing this to my attention. I now understand that this was intended to be in your user namespace—I've undeleted it and moved it to the correct namespace for you. Let me know if anything else comes up! Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:05, 30 June 2025 (UTC) ::ah .. err .. umm .. well that is a gentle answer to my ire. Thanks for being so gracious [[User:VulcanWikiEdit|VulcanWikiEdit]] ([[User talk:VulcanWikiEdit|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/VulcanWikiEdit|contribs]]) 20:29, 30 June 2025 (UTC) ::and .. isn't my sandbox in my namespace by default? [[User:VulcanWikiEdit|VulcanWikiEdit]] ([[User talk:VulcanWikiEdit|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/VulcanWikiEdit|contribs]]) 20:30, 30 June 2025 (UTC) :::No worries—it looks like you didn't add the prefix "User:" before writing out the full page titles, so the pages you created were technically in the project's Main space with the official published materials. Going forward, you can just double-check that the page title starts with "'''User:'''VulcanWikiEdit/sandbox", and that should keep everything in the right place! Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:36, 30 June 2025 (UTC) ::::BTW .. i love the play on cat lover name [[User:VulcanWikiEdit|VulcanWikiEdit]] ([[User talk:VulcanWikiEdit|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/VulcanWikiEdit|contribs]]) 15:35, 1 July 2025 (UTC) issor8qar6saivm9c870ec2o1qkl78m 4520827 4520781 2025-07-01T18:46:27Z Kittycataclysm 3371989 /* how is it you feel able to interfere in my sandbox? */ Reply 4520827 wikitext text/x-wiki {| class="wikitable" |+ ! colspan="2" |Talk Page Archives |- |[[User talk:Kittycataclysm/Archive 2022|2022]] |[[User talk:Kittycataclysm/Archive 2023|2023]] |} == To kitty kat == can you please stop doing what you are doing by removing what people edited and adding your own false recipes it is really not helping [[Special:Contributions/41.116.238.216|41.116.238.216]] ([[User talk:41.116.238.216|discuss]]) 11:19, 14 January 2024 (UTC) :No idea what recipies your adding, 41.116. <sup>&#8212; [[User:L10nM4st3r|<span style="color:#c71300">L10nM4st3r</span>]]</sup> / <sub>[[User talk:L10nM4st3r|<span style="color:#ce3f00">'''ROAR''' at me!</span>]]</sub> 16:52, 14 January 2024 (UTC) :Could you please be more specific? I don't know what you are referring to. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:36, 14 January 2024 (UTC) ::I followed your edits it led to me burning my kitchen i followed your citations the led to a virus that costs me $200 for me to repair [[Special:Contributions/41.116.216.82|41.116.216.82]] ([[User talk:41.116.216.82|discuss]]) 18:32, 15 January 2024 (UTC) :::Wikibooks editors are not liable for something you did. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 23:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC) ::::are you kitty Kat sir or mam [[Special:Contributions/41.116.248.36|41.116.248.36]] ([[User talk:41.116.248.36|discuss]]) 17:33, 19 January 2024 (UTC) :::::41.x, why would that matter? --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 08:10, 20 January 2024 (UTC) ::::::Stop answering questions that are not directed to you mister or whatever you are [[Special:Contributions/41.116.195.45|41.116.195.45]] ([[User talk:41.116.195.45|discuss]]) 06:42, 21 January 2024 (UTC) :::Remember to be careful with links, I feel as though this should be known already by somebody using the internet. <sup>&#8212; [[User:L10nM4st3r|<span style="color:#c71300">L10nM4st3r</span>]]</sup> / <sub>[[User talk:L10nM4st3r|<span style="color:#ce3f00">'''ROAR''' at me!</span>]]</sub> 09:13, 20 January 2024 (UTC) ::::Shut up boob face [[Special:Contributions/41.116.198.58|41.116.198.58]] ([[User talk:41.116.198.58|discuss]]) 15:01, 23 January 2024 (UTC) ==Redirect I created was deleted by you== Hi {{PAGENAME}}, I just checked my watchlist and I see that you deleted a redirect I created yesterday. I would like to apologize for creating additional work for you. My intention was to help, not to increase your work load. I will refrain from making any more changes to the cookbook from now on. Sorry to have troubled you. [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ottawahitech|contribs]]) 14:37, 26 January 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] Please don't worry about it! It's not a big issue, and you are welcome to continue contributing. It's a learning process :) —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:36, 26 January 2024 (UTC) ::@Kittycataclysm: Thank you for your gracious reply. ::Since we have not interacted before I would like to explain why I posted this in the first place. I have been part of the Wikimedia movement since 2007 (yes, I am ancient:), first at enwp exclusively until about 2012. After I was shunned from enwp in 2017 I have participated quite extensively in other sister-projects, perhaps a bit less enthusiastically than my first 10 years. ::Since I joined the movement I have had trouble with my contributions being deleted, not reverted or undone, but deleted by admins. Many of these deletion were carried out "silently", as in without telling me about the deletion. I have therefore become very sensitive about this. Deleted contributions disappear from the contribution page of participants, so for someone who only participates sporadically and uses their contribution page to refresh memory this is a real issue, especially if many of the contributions they make end up being deleted without notifications. ::I hope I am making sense? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ottawahitech|contribs]]) 19:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC) :::I can definitely understand how that would be frustrating! If helpful, I can make sure to alert upon page deletions. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:57, 28 January 2024 (UTC) ::::Thanks again for the gracious offer. I just tried to explain the way things look like from the POV of a ''low-key, low-input, good-faith'' contributor, but please do not go out of your way to treat me differently than others are treated at WB. I will continue to try and help whenever I get a chance. [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ottawahitech|contribs]]) 15:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC) == Sorry == Kittycat sorry for everything i said your editing helped a lot please forgive [[Special:Contributions/41.116.190.118|41.116.190.118]] ([[User talk:41.116.190.118|discuss]]) 12:03, 28 January 2024 (UTC) == "Zuppa toscana", not "zuppa Toscana" == Hi, your move of the "zuppa toscana" page to "zuppa Toscana" is incorrect, please read these three conversations: [[wikipedia:Talk:Pecorino romano#Requested move 19 November 2023]], [[wikipedia:Talk:Pecorino romano#Requested move 19 November 2023]], [[wikipedia:Talk: Caffè americano#Requested move 19 November 2023]]; the [[wikipedia:Title case|title case]] page states: "When using title case, all words are capitalized, except for minor words (typically articles, short prepositions, and some conjunctions) that are not the first or last word of the title." ("toscano" is an '''adjective'''). [[User:JackkBrown|JackkBrown]] ([[User talk:JackkBrown|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/JackkBrown|contribs]]) 16:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:JackkBrown|JackkBrown]]. Wikibooks is not Wikipedia, and its stylistic conventions do not necessarily apply here. As I noted on your talk page, the stylistic conventions of the cookbook here are such that recipe titles are in title case, with English (not Italian) capitalization conventions and major words capitalized. It is worth noting that each book here may have different stylistic conventions, but this is how titles should work in the cookbook. Thanks —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:25, 29 January 2024 (UTC) ::{{Ping|Kittycataclysm}} great! Forgive me. [[User:JackkBrown|JackkBrown]] ([[User talk:JackkBrown|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/JackkBrown|contribs]]) 02:56, 30 January 2024 (UTC) == [[Free Knowledge Culture Calendar]] == [[File:FLOSS calendar prototype 2022-12-13.jpg|thumb|first physical galley proof]] It largely unclear to me what clarifications you’re asking for, and I feel a bit pressured, to be honest. (Like I need to guard my content against deletionists or something.) Early on after I started publishing here, I tried to document the vision I was working towards concisely, yet accurately and in detail, on the main talk page for any potential co-authors. Did you notice that at all?... I’m trying to do a kind of innovative history book that is easy to engage, with bite-sized information that fits between two sips of coffee, e.g. to be consumed daily at breakfast or as login [[w:Message of the day|MOTD]]s. I feel like the biggest chunk of work and research is done and it’s provisionally already somewhat functional: You might not realize at first glance how much work it is to find a topic/story for each day of the year. While quality of the topics could surely be improved here and there, this work has reached a provisional conclusion. – Now all that remains is to write the stories, and that should be much more straightforward in comparison and easier to participate in. For an idea of one thing this can be, to the right there’s a photo of the first paper prototype, e.g. for the breakfast table. You are very welcome to leave point notes on individual stories, find the single best media piece for further study of a topic, work on good complementary illustrations, flesh out a story, give any actionable feedback, or come up with a better title.--[[User:Reseletti|Reseletti]] ([[User talk:Reseletti|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Reseletti|contribs]]) 19:07, 4 February 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Reseletti|Reseletti]] and thanks for the information! I queried the book because it seemed mostly abandoned for over a year, the handful of random pages I clicked on only had one sentence each, and I didn't fully understand the concept based on the talk page. It seems like a lot of the pages still need to be fleshed out (I imagine maybe a paragraph each to reasonably form a book?) Just out of curiosity, do you plan on resuming the work on the book? Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:11, 4 February 2024 (UTC) :Also I like the little feature to navigate to today's page! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:12, 4 February 2024 (UTC) == Champorado (chocolate porridge) Philippine cuisine == I added Champorado. I didn't copy paste it from a ready made recipe. I asked my mother on how to cook it. [[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] ([[User talk:Jay Bolero|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jay Bolero|contribs]]) 06:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] yes that recipe is totally fine, as is [[Cookbook:Pinakbet]]. But, where did you get [[Cookbook:Lechon Kawali (Chili-Honey Glazed Filipino Pork Belly)]]? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:13, 6 February 2024 (UTC) ::I accidentally saw that recipe. It was originally named Chili Honey Glazed Filipino Pork Belly (Lechon Kawali). ::I moved the name into ::Lechon Kawali (Chili Honey Glazed Filipino Pork Belly) [[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] ([[User talk:Jay Bolero|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jay Bolero|contribs]]) 13:26, 6 February 2024 (UTC) ::I didn't make the recipe of Lechon Kawali. It already existed in the Cookbook. I just improved it and placed it in the list of Filipino cuisine. [[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] ([[User talk:Jay Bolero|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jay Bolero|contribs]]) 13:27, 6 February 2024 (UTC) ::By the way, I made the Cookbook:Calamansi. ::Calamansi is one of the important ingredient in Filipino cuisine. [[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] ([[User talk:Jay Bolero|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jay Bolero|contribs]]) 13:29, 6 February 2024 (UTC) :::Great, thank you :) —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:08, 6 February 2024 (UTC) == The other Lechon Kawali == The last Lechon Kawali you marked as copyvio is not actually a copyvio. It has no Glazing needed. It does not need an airfryer to be cooked. [[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] ([[User talk:Jay Bolero|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jay Bolero|contribs]]) 07:44, 8 February 2024 (UTC) :This one is not a copyvio [[Cookbook:Lechon Kawali (Filipino Crispy Fried Pork Belly):|Cookbook:Lechon Kawali (Filipino Crispy Fried Pork Belly)]] [[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] ([[User talk:Jay Bolero|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jay Bolero|contribs]]) 07:46, 8 February 2024 (UTC) ::That recipe didn't violate any copyright. [[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] ([[User talk:Jay Bolero|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jay Bolero|contribs]]) 07:50, 8 February 2024 (UTC) :::The Chili Honey Glazed is the one that violated a copyright [[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] ([[User talk:Jay Bolero|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jay Bolero|contribs]]) 07:51, 8 February 2024 (UTC) ::::The two versions of Lechon Kawali recipes are different from each other. That last one is not copy pasted from an existing recipe. [[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] ([[User talk:Jay Bolero|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jay Bolero|contribs]]) 07:59, 8 February 2024 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] you can see my response on your talk page. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:06, 8 February 2024 (UTC) == My two books on Wikibooks == I wrote two books on Wikibooks entitled Bikol and the other one is Learn Baybayin. You might want to review them. [[User:Jay Bolero|Jay Bolero]] ([[User talk:Jay Bolero|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jay Bolero|contribs]]) 08:01, 8 February 2024 (UTC) == AuthorsAndContributorsBot == Hi, I have stumbled upon this bot which seems to be inactive. However, it also seems to have released its source code. Can I run this bot to update the authors lists? I will create a separate account for this. -[[User:D1n05aur5 4ever|D1n05aur5 4ever]] ([[User talk:D1n05aur5 4ever|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/D1n05aur5 4ever|contribs]]) 13:12, 9 March 2024 (UTC) :Sorry for missing this @[[User:D1n05aur5 4ever|D1n05aur5 4ever]]! Are you asking whether you're allowed to create a new bot account with the source code in order to fix the inactive bot? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:05, 5 April 2024 (UTC) ::Yes, this is what I meant. [[User:D1n05aur5 4ever|D1n05aur5 4ever]] ([[User talk:D1n05aur5 4ever|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/D1n05aur5 4ever|contribs]]) 14:44, 6 April 2024 (UTC) :::I don't see why not! @[[User:JackPotte|JackPotte]] @[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] I know you both run bot accounts, so is there anything they should know before doing this? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:30, 9 April 2024 (UTC) ::::Hi {{re|Kittycataclysm}} mainly ::::* test the bot first - the [[:mw:Beta Cluster|Beta Cluster]] or [[:testwiki:|test wiki]] are good places ::::* ask for the appropriate permissions so that it does not bother patrollers. This would normally be autoreviewer if the bot is low-volume, or the bot right otherwise. ::::[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 04:47, 10 April 2024 (UTC) ::::: Hello, actually last year I had launched [[User:AuthorsAndContributorsBot/source_code]] on four pages (ex: https://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=World_Cultures/Authors_%26_Contributors&diff=prev&oldid=4285894) and it worked fine, but I've stopped because it needed to maintain [[User:AuthorsAndContributorsBot/blacklist]] and [[User:AuthorsAndContributorsBot/List of books]], or even better: to make them dynamic. [[User:JackPotte|JackPotte]] ([[User talk:JackPotte|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/JackPotte|contribs]]) 07:00, 10 April 2024 (UTC) ::::::Thank you very much! What do you mean by maintain the pages or make them dynamic? Thanks in advance, -[[User:D1n05aur5 4ever|D1n05aur5 4ever]] ([[User talk:D1n05aur5 4ever|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/D1n05aur5 4ever|contribs]]) 12:43, 26 April 2024 (UTC) == [[Sheaf Theory]] == @[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] and @[[User:Az1568|Az1568]], I don't quite understand; why was this tagged and deleted? The criterion cited says {{tq|Abandoned pages displaying intent, but no actual content}}, but I'd argue there was a decent amount of content in the few deleted pages. [[User:1234qwer1234qwer4|𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰]] ([[User talk:1234qwer1234qwer4|𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠]]) 17:27, 4 April 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:1234qwer1234qwer4|1234qwer1234qwer4]]! I believe I initially queried it while sorting through old abandoned books because the scope and future of the book were unclear to me, and I couldn't see a way forward for it. It turns out that queried books end up in candidates for speedy deletion after a certain period, which I think is how it eventually got deleted by @[[User:Az1568|Az1568]]. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:32, 4 April 2024 (UTC) ::Yep that's correct. The book has appeared largely undeveloped since 2018, and unfortunately, there were no attempts to oppose the initial query left on the book itself, nor were there attempts to expand on its content. --[[User:Az1568|Az1568]] ([[User talk:Az1568|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Az1568|contribs]]) 20:05, 4 April 2024 (UTC) :: So how exactly is this reflected in policy? [[User:1234qwer1234qwer4|𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰]] ([[User talk:1234qwer1234qwer4|𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠]]) 14:09, 14 April 2024 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:1234qwer1234qwer4|1234qwer1234qwer4]]! So, I went back to take a look at it. The book consisted of two pages, with no introduction or clarification of scope/aims/educational relevance. It seems to just have been some mathematical definitions with no accompanying educational/instructional material. It was also abandoned for several years. I only intended to query it, but it did seem to meet criteria for deletion at [[Wikibooks:Deletion policy]]. Notably, the policy says to "delete stubs that are too narrowly defined or do not have a decent definition of what they are about", which I do think applied to this book as mentioned. It's possible that it should have been a RFD instead of a speedy deletion, but I do think overall it makes sense according to policy. Cheers! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 20:02, 14 April 2024 (UTC) == Miraheze == I am patrolling [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges Miraheze's recent changes] and noticed there is username Kittycataclysm in recent changes in that wiki. Did you create this account on that wiki? [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 19:46, 10 April 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]]. Thanks for asking. No, I do not have a Miraheze account, and I am not active over there. Whoever is operating under the username "Kittycataclysm" there is not me. Since they've copied my entire user page, I assume they are impersonating me for some reason. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 20:40, 10 April 2024 (UTC) ::Looking into [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Kittycataclysm that account's CentralAuth], it had made a total of 24 edits at the writing - 19 are from Cookbookholic, 3 are from Miraheze Meta, 1 is from Miraheze Login Wiki, and 1 is from Amazing YouTubers Wiki. What is that account doing? [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 07:29, 11 April 2024 (UTC) :::No idea. I'm not going to get involved over there, since this is my home wiki. But, since you have an account there, it might be nice if you could let them know that this person is an impersonator. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:07, 11 April 2024 (UTC) == [[Special:Contributions/Favonian]] == Hello. I think you may have blocked the wrong user. A different user made their talk page. Please check their local and global contributions. Thank you for your attention. [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 13:57, 11 April 2024 (UTC) :Oh gosh, thank you for letting me know—that was a mistake on my part. Should be fixed now! Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:26, 11 April 2024 (UTC) == Jumarkese == I just want to ask, why you deleted my page "Jumarkese" on Wikibooks? And how I can revive my page? [[User:Jumark27|Jumark27]] ([[User talk:Jumark27|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jumark27|contribs]]) 11:06, 17 April 2024 (UTC) == Thanks == Wanted to say thanks for all the work you do on Cookbooks. Have a good one! :) [[User:Aekrinine|Aekrinine]] ([[User talk:Aekrinine|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aekrinine|contribs]]) 02:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC) :Thank you, that's very kind! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:06, 29 April 2024 (UTC) == Talk page cluttered == Your talk page is cluttered. I recommend implementing archiving. [[Special:Contributions/98.115.164.53|98.115.164.53]] ([[User talk:98.115.164.53|discuss]]) 17:10, 5 May 2024 (UTC) :They are free to do what they want with their talk page (as long as it's under 2 MB). --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 07:25, 6 May 2024 (UTC) == Incompelete Recipe.. == You have misnested bold formatting. When using <nowiki>'''</nowiki> you can't have soft-line-feeds in between the <nowiki>'''</nowiki> markup. If you want a line-feed use <br>, and removes the soft-line-feeds. [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/ShakespeareFan00|contribs]]) 13:39, 15 May 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] and thanks for reaching out! I think there was a misunderstanding of what I wanted the template to look like—it looked correct based on the preview after making several adjustments to the template, but the quotation marks ended up in a sloppy location. At any rate, I think I understand what you were trying to do, and I've fixed the markup positioning. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:00, 15 May 2024 (UTC) :: The script I use to identify Lints also note that you have {{tag|strike}} tags in this talk page, These are nominally deprecated. Please consider using {{tl|strike/top}} and {{tl|strike/end}} in preference. [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/ShakespeareFan00|contribs]]) 07:35, 16 May 2024 (UTC) == Lints.. == You may be interested in helping look for unclosed italics elsewhere - I made a list of everything with missing tags in ns0: https://public-paws.wmcloud.org/4407/books.txt The more that can be cleaned up the better.. [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/ShakespeareFan00|contribs]]) 18:36, 16 May 2024 (UTC) == Sderot == Hi, I have noticed your edit in [[October 7th Massacre/Sderot]]. Could you please explain why you found in necessary to remove 2,462 bytes of content? I have noticed that you have not only changed the style and the grammar, but have also removed many details that would help the reader understand the events better. Thanks in advance, -[[User:D1n05aur5 4ever|D1n05aur5 4ever]] ([[User talk:D1n05aur5 4ever|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/D1n05aur5 4ever|contribs]]) 08:46, 7 June 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:D1n05aur5 4ever|D1n05aur5 4ever]]—I am happy to explain my edits! They were based on the following: :* '''Style:''' Wikibooks uses a neutral educational style, and NPOV is important. The initial style of the chapter was less like a neutral informational text and more like storytelling, with embellishment and attention drawn to certain details in a more literary way that evokes specific images and emotions. I removed content that I felt detracted from the desired NPOV style or that I felt was otherwise distracting, etc. :* '''Caution:''' Because this book revolves around a very recent and polarizing event, the surrounding conflict of which is still ongoing and the details of which are still hotly discussed, I think it is especially important to aim for neutrality. :* '''Iteration:''' Because Wikibooks is a collaborative project, books develop from an iterative process to refine the content—it's not just a place to self-publish one's own book. You contributed the initial version, I iterated on it, and so on. :If you have specific questions about specific changes I made, I am happy to explain and discuss those as well. Cheers! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:16, 7 June 2024 (UTC) ::Hi Kittycataclysm. Thank you very much for the the detailed response. Maybe I haven’t made that clear in the initial message, but I didn’t ask why was it necessary to iterate on the text. I asked why it was necessary to remove such an extensive amount of details. I don’t feel like I have written the original text with “embellishment and attention drawn to certain details in a more literary way that evokes specific images and emotions”. Of course describing a massacre does evoke emotions, however I don’t see this as a reason not to describe the events of October 7th as they happened. -[[User:D1n05aur5 4ever|D1n05aur5 4ever]] ([[User talk:D1n05aur5 4ever|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/D1n05aur5 4ever|contribs]]) 13:36, 7 June 2024 (UTC) :::Gotcha. In terms of removing content, I removed details when I felt they met one or more of the following criteria: :::* Overly wordy/inefficient/clunky language (e.g. "They ran to the shelter, which was locked" --> "They ran to a locked shelter") :::* Indicative of subjective/non-neutral experience that is not necessary to understand the larger events that took place (e.g. "He understood on the first alarm that something isn’t right", "She was used to alarms", "it took her a while to understand what is going on", "“We behaved like in the story of Anne Frank”", "When she understood the electricity won’t come back", "The kids panicked and even told “We don't want to die, we are too little”", etc). :::* Excessive detail that is not necessary to understand the larger events that took place ("her husband, who works as a warden, had to go to work", "elderly people, including Holocaust survivors", etc). :::* Loaded language (e.g. "slaughtered" vs "killed", "terrorist" vs "attacker"/"assailant", etc) :::In some cases, I reworded things in a way that made them more concise, which decreased the overall content. Whenever I assess a sentence, paragraph, etc., I always evaluate its purpose and its effect, as well as whether it accomplishes the aims of the book and the Wikibooks project. :::Cheers! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:39, 7 June 2024 (UTC) ::::Thanks for the response! I have a few problems with it: ::::* About the locked shelter part, I think the best way to word it would be “they ran to the shelter only to find out that it was locked”. ::::* I don’t understand why the book can’t include the experiences of the witnesses. I would argue that the part saying “She was used to alarms” does indeed help understand the larger events (in that she was used to alarms since she heard many alarms before that). I didn’t really understand why a book on a massacre shouldn’t include these details. ::::* Again, please elaborate what you mean by “larger events” and by what extent an event has to be “large” in order to be noteworthy. ::::* Feels for me more like factual language than loaded. I’m not sure why calling terrorists “terrorists” is against NPOV. ::::* Thanks in advance,-[[User:D1n05aur5 4ever|D1n05aur5 4ever]] ([[User talk:D1n05aur5 4ever|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/D1n05aur5 4ever|contribs]]) 06:08, 8 June 2024 (UTC) :::::{{ping|Xania}}, what is your opinion on the topic? -08:20, 21 June 2024 (UTC) :::::Hi @[[User:D1n05aur5 4ever|D1n05aur5 4ever]]—my apologies for the delayed response! Here are my responses: :::::* '''Locked shelter:''' Here I would ask why you feel that is the best way to word it. I made the change I did in order to convey the key facts (locked shelter) in the most concise and neutral way possible. I'm curious why you don't think it is appropriate. :::::* '''Witness experiences:''' I do think witness experiences can have value here. However, I think they must be used judiciously in order to best serve the purpose and scope of the book—a near infinite number of facts, statements, details, reports, etc could be included from the events, but not all of them need to be included in this book. It is challenging to make a blanket statement about what and how many witness experiences are relevant here, and it must instead be evaluated continuously through revision. I also think it's important to make it obvious that you're citing someone else's perspective when including it (e.g. "they said", "they reported", "according to ***") rather than narrating from their perspective. :::::* '''Event and detail inclusion:''' Again, it's hard to make a blanket statement outright on what details out of the many merit inclusion, and whether something is relevant is typically determined by book scope, revision, and consensus. I would argue that for this book, it doesn't make sense to spend words describing things like what shirt someone happens to be wearing, details related to their everyday life, their detailed personal perceptual experiences, etc. :::::* '''Loaded language:''' It may be helpful to take a look at these [https://englishforjournalists.journalism.cuny.edu/2020/02/07/loaded-words/ resources] on [https://www.tckpublishing.com/loaded-language/ loaded language], as well as [[w:Loaded language]] for context and overall guidance. Regarding the term "terrorist" specifically, [[w:Terrorism#Definition]] may be helpful as well—note its status as a charged and disputed term with strong non-neutral connotations. The term "attacker" still correctly describes the events taking place without inadvertently inserting strong connotations and leaning into political territory. :::::Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 15:36, 21 June 2024 (UTC) ::::::Thanks for the reply! ::::::* My problem with “locked shelter” is that it kind of makes it sound as if they knew the shelter was locked when they ran towards it. ::::::* I think I made it clear that I’m citing other people’s perceptive, however if not, I’m willing to edit the text. ::::::* Details about personal lives of people were only included when they helped the reader understand the events. We can’t assume the reader to be familiar with the frequency of alarms in Sderot. That’s why I think it’s necessary to explain that while she was used to alarms, this event was unprecedented. Such details help the reader understand the event better. In my opinion such an unprecedented event such as the October 7th massacre deserves a detailed book describing the events that took place. ::::::* I’m not convinced that the word “terrorist” is a politically loaded word. I still think it’s simply a factual description of them, though the word “attacker” is still technically correct. ::::::Cheers! -[[User:D1n05aur5 4ever|D1n05aur5 4ever]] ([[User talk:D1n05aur5 4ever|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/D1n05aur5 4ever|contribs]]) 19:34, 21 June 2024 (UTC) == A little advice == Hello, I am currently on working on [[Cookbook: Honey Mug Cake]]. Any advice or anything to help? I can't help but feel something is missing from it. [[User:Soapyduck|Soapyduck]] ([[User talk:Soapyduck|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Soapyduck|contribs]]) 09:35, 27 June 2024 (UTC) :Hello! I went through and made some edits, which you can see in the revision history. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:20, 28 June 2024 (UTC) == Accessibility == The structure you chose for [[Cookbook:Schwarzwälder Kirschtorte (Black Forest Cake) II]] has the unfortunate side effect that people can't link to the first four subsections in ==Procedure==. [[Cookbook:Schwarzwälder Kirschtorte (Black Forest Cake) II#Cake]] will take them to the first. Do you have any ideas about how to make these later sections accessible to everyone? [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhatamIdoing|contribs]]) 06:19, 9 July 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]]—thanks for checking in! In order to link to a second identical heading, you just use an underscore plus an index. So, to link to the second cake heading, you would use this: [[Cookbook:Schwarzwälder Kirschtorte (Black Forest Cake) II#Cake_2]]. Hope this helps! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:10, 9 July 2024 (UTC) ::That's nice for the few of us who know that trick, but it doesn't help the 99.9999% of readers who aren't experts in MediaWiki's quirks. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhatamIdoing|contribs]]) 23:35, 9 July 2024 (UTC) :::It's not ideal, but it's also the best we can do for now. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 23:52, 9 July 2024 (UTC) ::::The original structure for the page had no duplicate section headings. Perhaps we should go back to that. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhatamIdoing|contribs]]) 00:43, 10 July 2024 (UTC) :::::Hi @[[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]]. I definitely understand your concern. However, the changes I made were to bring the recipe into alignment with the recipe template and all other recipes in the Cookbook. It is also a very common current standard for recipe-writing in English. Moreover, I think this kind of linking is actually very simple and very easy to teach/communicate—much more so than some other common MediaWiki features—and it is not unreasonable to expect editors to learn editing tips and tricks like this over time from more experienced users. You asked, and now you know a simple new trick to help with editing :) As an aside, I'm also not sure how often linking to subheadings like this is even used in the Cookbook, so I don't think it's a very big issue at the moment. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC) ::::::Perhaps, if the standard recipe template creates accessibility problems for blind readers, we should have a better recipe template. ::::::BTW, I've been editing for about 18 years now, so unlike you, I was around when that "simple new trick" was introduced to MediaWiki. I know how it works. This is a problem for '''readers''', not for me personally. The problem isn't when an editor wants to put a link to the section (which happens on the talk page more often than in the cookbook). Imagine that a reader wants to ask a friend about this recipe. Think about a social media post that says "I'm confused by the directions in [[Cookbook:Schwarzwälder Kirschtorte (Black Forest Cake) II#Cake]] ". That won't end up where the reader expected it to go, right? And while people who (like me) have made more than 100K edits at Wikipedia will probably know what to do, a reader is not going to be able to fix it. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhatamIdoing|contribs]]) 21:27, 13 July 2024 (UTC) :::::::@[[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] I definitely agree with you that web inaccessibility is a problem! I'm just having a hard time understanding this particular case. I find it hard to imagine someone who '''is''' savvy enough to know that you can link to specific subheadings by hashing, but '''isn't''' savvy enough to know about the indexing system to modify it. Have you seen this come up as a problem before? At any rate, I've modified the headings here so they are specific enough to not need the indexing. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:13, 14 July 2024 (UTC) ::::::::Yes, it happens sometimes. That's one of the reasons why enwiki requires unique section headings. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhatamIdoing|contribs]]) 00:07, 15 July 2024 (UTC) == Wikiphilosophers == I saw your comment on [[Wikiphilosophers]]. Indeed, the whole idea of it is that people can put their own philosophical ideas on a subpage of their own. I discussed the proposal for the project on Meta-Wiki (see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiphilosophers). There it was suggested that the project should first take shape on Wikibooks, if before becoming its own project. Personally, I think a own platform for Wikiphilosophers is also best, but I don't know how else to do it either? I look forward to hearing from you! Kind regards, [[User:S. Perquin|S. Perquin]] ([[User talk:S. Perquin|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/S. Perquin|contribs]]) 03:32, 21 July 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:S. Perquin|S. Perquin]]! Thank you, and I read through the discussion you linked. Unfortunately, based on your envisioning of the project, I'm thinking that Wikibooks isn't the best place for it. You can take a look at [[WB:NOTMETA]], and generally [[Wikibooks:What is Wikibooks?]] for details. Specifically, Wikibooks is for creating instructional books based on preexisting documented knowledge, which Wikiphilosophers doesn't really match the way you've described it. I'm thinking that if any existing WMF project were to host this, it would be Wikiversity. I'd recommend checking out [[Wikiversity:What is Wikiversity?]] and [[Wikiversity:Wikiversity:Research|Wikiversity:Research]], as well as asking there if your project could have a home there. Hope this is helpful! Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:12, 21 July 2024 (UTC) ::Thank you! I will post a message in the [[Wikiversity:Colloquium|Colloquium]]! Kind regards, [[User:S. Perquin|S. Perquin]] ([[User talk:S. Perquin|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/S. Perquin|contribs]]) 16:29, 21 July 2024 (UTC) :::I have permission to continue working on my project there. I have transferred all the information from Wikibooks to Wikiversity. All pages on Wikiphilosophers can therefore be deleted on Wikibooks! Could you take care of this? Kind regards, [[User:S. Perquin|S. Perquin]] ([[User talk:S. Perquin|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/S. Perquin|contribs]]) 18:42, 22 July 2024 (UTC) ::::Excellent—I'm glad to hear your project has found a home! I will delete any residual pages here. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:25, 22 July 2024 (UTC) == [[JLPT Guide/JLPT N5 Grammar]] ([[special:diff/4424284]]) == The edit is partially correct and partially questionable. For example, せんせいい is an obvious typo (せんせい is accurate), and でんしゃ is the correct reading for 電車. However, converting 行(い)きます to いきます can be disputed (this can be considered as simplification, but others may prefer the usage of 行). I'm not sure if the IP editor is a native speaker (the ISP is in the UK), so I think we need to keep an eye on this page. [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 13:09, 26 July 2024 (UTC) :I thought providing furigana for 'to go' might be an oversimplification but it's also there for other basic verbs like 'to eat'. Why is this person rejecting edits on a language they don't speak anyway? It would have taken 2 seconds to verify them with a dictionary. [[Special:Contributions/2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:E1D4:C6B3:2E:3919|2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:E1D4:C6B3:2E:3919]] ([[User talk:2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:E1D4:C6B3:2E:3919|discuss]]) 15:39, 26 July 2024 (UTC) ::Thank you both for the information! Because 1) there is often vandalism by IPs in non-English content and 2) Wikibooks lacks enough users to do detailed vetting, I tend to be very conservative regarding this kind of edit when not accompanied by an explanation in the edit summary. I am happy to restore the initial edit since an explanation has now been provided. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:08, 26 July 2024 (UTC) == Wrong deletion == hello!I noticed that you deleted the edits I made to Lesson 12 of the Chinese textbook. Please give it back to me, and undo your deletion so I can continue working. [[User:见水思源|见水思源]] ([[User talk:见水思源|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/见水思源|contribs]]) 05:04, 3 August 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:见水思源|见水思源]]. I deleted that page because of the following reasons taken together: :# It seemed very much out of scope with the rest of the book. :# It was written largely in a non-English language, beyond what would be expected for a language-teaching book. :# It was created by an anonymous IP. :# There have been multiple bad page creations for that page. :Could you please explain how your page contributes meaningfully to the book in its current scope? Thanks! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC) ::Hi, here are my answers :) ::1. I don't think it's out of scope, just like Lesson 11 of the book, it's a quoted Chinese text, designed to let students learn how real Chinese people speak ::2. This lesson does use a lot of non-English language, but that's because I decided to take a break and wait until the next day to complete it (including the supplementary English part) ::3. Like you mentioned, this is indeed created by an anonymous IP. The interesting thing is that this IP is mine, I'm a newcomer, and this is my first time contributing to the wiki. After I sent my work, I realized that I needed to create an account to save my work ::4. There is indeed a lot of vandalism on this page, and I saw it. But this doesn't mean that what I wrote is also meaningless text ::Like I said, that IP is mine, and I decided to finish my work the next day. But when I opened the page, I found it was deleted. I was angry because I spent a lot of time to finish it. So I hope you can give it back to me and let me finish the unfinished part. ::I am new here, which means I don't have a lot of experience, and I look forward to your suggestions on my work, thank you! [[User:见水思源|见水思源]] ([[User talk:见水思源|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/见水思源|contribs]]) 06:56, 4 August 2024 (UTC) :::@[[User:见水思源|见水思源]] thank you for clarifying—I have restored the chapter. Please make sure to incorporate it into the rest of the book. For example, please change the chapter title to match the other chapters, include it in the table of contents, and use the same formatting and structure as the other lesson chapters. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:03, 4 August 2024 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]]I'm glad to see them back, your advice is spot on. I noticed that the chapter headings don't seem to match the main table of contents, I'll make them fit by modifying the title text and body content appropriately。Thank you! [[User:见水思源|见水思源]] ([[User talk:见水思源|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/见水思源|contribs]]) 16:12, 4 August 2024 (UTC) ::For the whole book, I think I have filled a blank page, and I think after I fill it, this page must be more meaningful than a blank page. [[User:见水思源|见水思源]] ([[User talk:见水思源|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/见水思源|contribs]]) 10:49, 4 August 2024 (UTC) == Seeking to Improve My Project's Formatting == Hi there, I'm currently building [[Physics Explained Through a Video Game]] which you recently reviewed. As a question, is the inclusion of numerous video examples for the content I've written (such as for the existing materials in Unit 2 of my book) problematic? I feel that it provides a more intuitive explanation of many of the discussed concepts and may be more engaging for my target audience (high schoolers). However, I'm concerned that it's making the pages overly cluttered. Aside from this, are there any other ways that I can improve the existing content for the project? Thank you in advance. [[User:TheMonkeyEatsBananas|TheMonkeyEatsBananas]] ([[User talk:TheMonkeyEatsBananas|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheMonkeyEatsBananas|contribs]]) 05:38, 4 August 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:TheMonkeyEatsBananas|TheMonkeyEatsBananas]]! From my cursory look at the book, the formatting seems generally quite reasonable. I don't have the capacity at the moment to take a detailed look at the specific construction to assess optimization. But, I don't think you have anything to be worried about. Cheers! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:38, 5 August 2024 (UTC) == [[commons:HotCat]] == It's normally meant for Commons, but could help you with your categorisation work on this wiki. I don't think we have it as a gadget on this wiki, so just install it on your Commons.js - I could do it for you if you want. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 05:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC) :Thank you for letting me know about this! I always wondered if there was a way to install it on other wikis. Would you be able to help me with it this time? I've never installed any scripts here before. Thanks again! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:22, 3 September 2024 (UTC) ::Sorry, seeing this only now. I see that you have copied the code of HotCat, but I've replaced it with a direct link to HotCat on Commons. This ensures that you always have the latest version on the wiki. Can you check and let me know if you have any issues using that extension? [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 19:09, 14 September 2024 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]]! Unfortunately, replacing it with the direct link has disabled the tool for me. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 20:04, 14 September 2024 (UTC) ::::Apologies, can you try now (clearing your cache if needed)? [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 04:26, 15 September 2024 (UTC) :::::Yup, it's working again—thank you! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:46, 15 September 2024 (UTC) :Sorry for butting in here, but I use hotcat a lot on many different projects so was surprised to find out that it is "meant for Commons". Actually IIRC I was/am having trouble using it on commons? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ottawahitech|contribs]]) 14:11, 10 November 2024 (UTC) == Why did you remove the roadmap in Unicode/Versions? == OK, So why did you remove the roadmap in Unicode/Versions? I should re-add that and people will see the roadmap in this page and on the Unicode site. [[User:MatthewtheUnicoder|MatthewtheUnicoder]] ([[User talk:MatthewtheUnicoder|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MatthewtheUnicoder|contribs]]) 18:41, 14 September 2024 (UTC) == Biology of the siphonophore == The page [[biology of the siphonophore]] was not an accident or test it was to make a page about siphonophores. Please understand to get rid of Query. [[User:Atlas Þə Biologist|Atlas Þə Biologist]] ([[User talk:Atlas Þə Biologist|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Atlas Þə Biologist|contribs]]) 23:30, 19 September 2024 (UTC) == Chicken à la King recipe change == Hi, regarding {{diff|4440187}}, I could understand rejecting such a drastic change if someone else had originally posted the recipe, but it's my own recipe (based on my own cooking experience) and no one but you and I have ever even edited the page, so I thought (and still think) it's OK to change it so much. [[User:Mahagaja|Mahagaja]] ([[User talk:Mahagaja|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mahagaja|contribs]]) 07:44, 7 October 2024 (UTC) :That's a good point! I think if it's your recipe, it makes sense to make this change. Cheers! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:18, 7 October 2024 (UTC) == AI == Hi {{PAGENAME}}, Not sure if you remember me. I was fairly active at enwb for a few months until the beginning of this year IIRC. Any way I came across a page on Meta [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Future_Audiences/Experiments:_conversational/generative_AI Future Audiences/Experiments: conversational/generative AI] which you may or may not be familiar with. I vaguely remembered discussions in the ''reading room'' about the use of AI on this project, so thought you may be interested. Hope I am not wasting your time. Cheers, [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ottawahitech|contribs]]) 14:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] thank you for letting me know! I will take a look. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 17:36, 10 November 2024 (UTC) == [[Level-specific min and max]] == You added {{tl|query}} to that page, but I have marked it for speedy deletion, since it appears to have been created by a [[Special:GlobalBlockList/173.76.103.74|cross-wiki spammer]].<span id="JJPMaster:1732989180705:User_talkFTTCLNKittycataclysm" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] ([[User talk:JJPMaster|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|contribs]]) 17:53, 30 November 2024 (UTC)</span> :Note: a [[m:global sysop|global sysop]] has deleted the pages.<span id="JJPMaster:1732996822179:User_talkFTTCLNKittycataclysm" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] ([[User talk:JJPMaster|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|contribs]]) 20:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC)</span> ::Got it, thank you! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:19, 30 November 2024 (UTC) == Pseudo-bot flag == You might want to grant yourself that. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 00:54, 12 December 2024 (UTC) == Question == Hello I noticed that my comment asking about where I could get english book was unfairly deleted could you help me find clarity. [[User:Iyazi babanne|Iyazi babanne]] ([[User talk:Iyazi babanne|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Iyazi babanne|contribs]]) 15:29, 13 December 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Iyazi babanne|Iyazi babanne]]—I'm not sure what you mean. Could you clarify what you're looking for? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:55, 14 December 2024 (UTC) ::A drama book [[User:Iyazi babanne|Iyazi babanne]] ([[User talk:Iyazi babanne|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Iyazi babanne|contribs]]) 05:57, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :::I recommend taking a look at [[Shelf:Performing arts]]. [[Department:Humanities]] might also be helpful. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:33, 14 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Okay let take a look at it ::::I will tell you if I found it [[User:Iyazi babanne|Iyazi babanne]] ([[User talk:Iyazi babanne|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Iyazi babanne|contribs]]) 14:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :::::I've found it thank you very much ♥️♥️ [[User:Iyazi babanne|Iyazi babanne]] ([[User talk:Iyazi babanne|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Iyazi babanne|contribs]]) 15:19, 14 December 2024 (UTC) == Thank you == Thanks for helping me [[User:Iyazi babanne|Iyazi babanne]] ([[User talk:Iyazi babanne|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Iyazi babanne|contribs]]) 15:21, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :You're welcome! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:32, 29 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Template:Cookbookwelcome]] == Did you know there is a cookbook-specific template exists at [[Template:Cookbookwelcome]], which was created back in 2005, which is almost 20 years ago? You created another cookbook-specific template, [[Template:Cookwelcome]]. Thanks. [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 08:58, 19 December 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]]—yes, I am aware of that old template. For historical posterity, I created a new template deliberately instead of changing the old one dramatically to suit my needs. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:29, 19 December 2024 (UTC) == You have been bested == I have officially overtaken you as the [{{fullurl:xtools:adminstats/en.wikibooks.org/2024-01-01/2024-12-22|actions=import}} most active importer of 2024]. You put up a good fight (even though this wasn't a fight in the first place), but nevertheless, I have now reached your level of greatness. You are free to decide how you intend to handle this situation.{{FBDB}} [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 19:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC) == Note on Luna tests == It is preferable that you use [[User talk:Sandbox for user warnings]] for any tests of Luna's features rather than your own talk page. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 18:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC) :Fair point! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:10, 27 December 2024 (UTC) == That IP range calculator == Following [[phab:T381138|T381138]], I have now become the maintainer of the IP range calculator you like. You can find it [[toolforge:ftools/general/ip-range-calc.html|here]]. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 23:10, 9 January 2025 (UTC) :Thank you for the heads-up! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:56, 10 January 2025 (UTC) == A merge and unmerge from two years ago == I was browsing through the history merge log when I saw that you merged [[Cookbook:Chicken Bog]] into [[Cookbook:Chicken Bog I]], and then promptly reverted it. What happened here exactly? Could I correct it? [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 15:55, 10 January 2025 (UTC) :Good question! I can't remember what I was trying to do, but it looks like I didn't succeed at what I wanted based on the log comment. You're just trying to history merge to get [[Cookbook:Chicken Bog I]] to have continuity of history? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 16:35, 10 January 2025 (UTC) ::I think I figured out your mistake: it outright moved the revisions from the first page to the second, rather than copying them. This would have caused the other two [[Cookbook:Chicken Bog]] pages to have incomplete histories. I think the only solution would be to XML import the pre-April 2023 revisions from the first page to the other three, and I'm not sure if that's the best idea, and I am technically unable to do so. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 16:49, 10 January 2025 (UTC) == Undeletion request == I wouldn't be surprised if you expected this, but I'd like to ask you to undelete the subpages of [[Rotorcraft Fundamentals]] you just deleted with the summary "Use of copyrighted work without permission. Please read Terms of Use: page needs to be imported for attribution", so that I can do that. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 19:54, 14 January 2025 (UTC) :Done! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:57, 14 January 2025 (UTC) ::Upon further investigation, this might actually be a rare case where an [[WB:UT|unmerged transwiki]] is ''preferred'' (this is part of why I stopped calling them "bad transwikis"), since only a small portion of the Wikipedia article (with over 2,000 revisions) was copied over. Importation is generally only needed if the ''majority'' of the page is copied across wikis. I'll just leave a null edit providing attribution and add {{tlx|Copied}}. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 21:19, 14 January 2025 (UTC) == Reusing [[Cookbook:8 Desserts in 1 Pan]] on wikiHow == Hi, I am a user on wikiHow, see [[wikihow:User:Xeverything11]]. I would like to create a new recipe on wikiHow. I wanted to let us know if I can give permission to reuse your contributions to this recipe from Wikibooks to wikiHow. I (as a copyright holder) created this recipe on Wikibooks, but you contributed to this recipe. If not, I'll use the revision before you contributed since I was the only author. Wikibooks uses CC-BY-SA 4.0 while wikiHow uses CC-BY-NC-SA 3.0, which both licenses are incompatible due to ShareAlike conditions. Thanks [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 08:27, 15 January 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] I'm personally fine with this as long as proper attribution is given back to the original recipe page here. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:52, 20 January 2025 (UTC) ::I adapted this [[wikihow:Make-8-Desserts-in-1-Pan|recipe]] on wikiHow with attribution, and got a Rising Star (an achievement used for best new articles on wikiHow). Thank you! [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 19:49, 24 January 2025 (UTC) == Wikibooks community == Hi, @[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]]! I am trying to contribute more to English Wikibooks. My main contributions will focus on the Cookbook, especially on Indonesian recipes. Do you have a community group where we can discuss and share ideas together? I am looking forward to join. Thank you! [[User:Raflinoer32|Raflinoer32]] ([[User talk:Raflinoer32|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Raflinoer32|contribs]]) 08:47, 16 January 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Raflinoer32|Raflinoer32]] Sorry I missed this, and welcome! Are you asking about a Cookbook-specific area for discussion? Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:39, 20 January 2025 (UTC) ::Yes. Do you know place for this? ::Thank you ::[[User:Raflinoer32|Raflinoer32]] ([[User talk:Raflinoer32|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Raflinoer32|contribs]]) 09:41, 21 January 2025 (UTC) :::Honestly, there's not a centralized Cookbook-specific discussion space, especially since there aren't currently a ton of active contributors. Some people ask questions at [[Cookbook talk:Table of Contents]]. I'm currently the most consistently active and involved Cookbook editor, so feel free to ask me questions! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:46, 22 January 2025 (UTC) == Congratulations! == [[File:Admin T-shirt.svg|thumb|You get this now.]] You are now a permanent administrator. Welcome to the team (I am entitled to say this because I technically got the extension a few hours before you did)!{{FBDB}} [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 10:33, 29 January 2025 (UTC) :Thanks :) —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:29, 29 January 2025 (UTC) == Is there a way to contact a Steward on WikiBooks? == Hi {{PAGENAME}}, Is there a way to contact a Steward on WB? I tried to find who the active Stewards are here at [[Special:ActiveUsers?username=&groups%5B%5D=steward&wpFormIdentifier=specialactiveusers]] but nothing shows up. The reason I am asking is that I believe that all individual Wikimania-wikis should have a backward link to the [[Wikimania-wiki]], but I just visited the [[wikimania 2014 wiki]] and could not find this backward link. I tried to ask about this on the [[Wikimania 2014 main-page talk]] but disovered that the Stewards have protected it. Is there a way wikibookians can communicate with Stewards at WB? Thanks in advance for answering this non-urgent question, and apologies for all the red-links which I can bluify if needed. Cheers [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ottawahitech|contribs]]) 16:37, 7 February 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] You can ask this on somewhere like [[metawiki:Steward requests/Miscellaneous]]. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 17:01, 7 February 2025 (UTC) <s>:@[[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] seconding what Leaderboard said—we no longer have any active stewards at enWB.</s> Had a brain fade there and mixed up stewards with bureaucrats. Yes, meta is the place for this. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 19:15, 7 February 2025 (UTC) ::@Kittycataclysm,@[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]], or anyone else: ::Some wikibookians prefer for various reasons to post only at wb. I myself am indef-blocked at META so could not participate at [[metawiki:Steward requests/Miscellaneous]] even if I waned to. ::Since [[Wikimania]] is a topic of interest to all members of the [[wikimedia movement]] why can't wikibookians talk to thier elected representatives here? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ottawahitech|contribs]]) 20:56, 7 February 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] I can check with the blocking admin to see if they'd be willing to unblock you, if you'd like. The reason things like these are done at Meta is that Meta is a cross-project coordination platform - stewards ''cannot'' be expected to watch every project after all. Now you could message any steward here on Wikibooks if you really wanted to, but that is not normally a good idea. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 02:26, 8 February 2025 (UTC) ::::Wikimania is the annual conference celebrating all the free knowledge projects hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF). It is a wikimedia initiative which is meant to help all of our projects (including wikibooks), gain more readership, educate more wiki-editors, foster better communications, and much more. The wmf has been hosting a Wikimania-wiki dedicated to each Wikimania annual event since 2004. These wikis contain a wealth of information, but can benefit from wiki-improvements, starting from spelling and grammar errors that detract from their to appeal to the general membership. It would be nice if Stewards paid more attention to it. ::::@[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]], I truly appreciate your offer, but I posted this here not in order to get someone to advocate for one unblocking at META. As I said earlier: ::::* "Some wikibookians prefer for various reasons to post only at wb" ::::* "The reason I am asking is that I believe that all individual Wikimania-wikis should have a backward link to the Wikimania-wiki, but I just visited the wikimania 2014 wiki and could not find this backward link. I tried to ask about this on the Wikimania 2014 main-page talk but disovered that the Stewards have protected it" ::::I would much rather see more wikimedia members question blocking in general at META. One cannot run such large movement of people from different backgrounds and nationalities simply by silencing minorities IMIO. [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ottawahitech|contribs]]) 20:12, 8 February 2025 (UTC) == [[Crystal ball]] == That page appears to be a mixture of isolated paragraphs from [[w:Crystal ball|Crystal ball]], hence my tag. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 03:04, 9 February 2025 (UTC) :Yep, that seems correct! I also queried it simply because it does not seem suitable for inclusion at all. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 03:09, 9 February 2025 (UTC) == Question about an edit suggestion == Hi Kittycataclysm, Thanks for the great work you do as an admin! I wanted to clarify a suggestion you made on a recently published page I’m working on. You recommended splitting it into smaller sections—would you suggest creating separate pages for these sections, or would a higher-level header for some topics be sufficient? Any specific recommendations you have would be greatly appreciated! Here’s the link to the page I’m referring to: [[Funding and Finance of Transportation Projects in the United States of America]] Thank you! [[User:Svrmustafa|Svrmustafa]] ([[User talk:Svrmustafa|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Svrmustafa|contribs]]) 18:19, 18 February 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Svrmustafa|Svrmustafa]], and thanks for asking! Splitting refers to creating new pages, each with a smaller amount of content. The main page should then contain a table of contents, and each page can contain a navigation template for easier navigation. I'll create the table of contents based on the current work and move some content to one of those pages as an example for you; then, you can do the rest. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:26, 19 February 2025 (UTC) ::Following up on this—I noticed that you use the term "paper". However, technically Wikibooks hosts books not papers, so you should probably change this wording. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:38, 19 February 2025 (UTC) == Talkback == {{Talkback|Cookbook talk:Chilli Crab|Recipe Questions}} [[User:Cactusisme|Cactusisme]] ([[User talk:Cactusisme|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cactusisme|contribs]]) 09:54, 19 February 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] I also made [[Cookbook:Prata|this]] [[User:Cactusisme|Cactusisme]] ([[User talk:Cactusisme|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cactusisme|contribs]]) 10:15, 19 February 2025 (UTC) == Hello == Can you look at my latest recipe? [[User:Cactusisme|Cactusisme]] ([[User talk:Cactusisme|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cactusisme|contribs]]) 00:10, 28 February 2025 (UTC) :I saw it! It needs a few corrections, which I'll note. What's the origin of the recipe? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 03:23, 28 February 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] How do you write recipe summary, correct headers [[User:Cactusisme|Cactusisme]] ([[User talk:Cactusisme|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cactusisme|contribs]]) 06:04, 28 February 2025 (UTC) :::Please see [[Cookbook:Policy/Recipe template]]. What's the origin of the recipe? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:08, 28 February 2025 (UTC) ::::ok [[User:Cactusisme|Cactusisme]] ([[User talk:Cactusisme|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cactusisme|contribs]]) 02:33, 1 March 2025 (UTC) == Cookbook == Hi there, Kittycataclysm. I wandered over here from Wikipedia, and I'm quite enamoured with this cookbook. I noticed you seem to be the one maintaining it, and I thought I'd reach out. Can I really just start cranking out recipes from public domain cookbooks and my family recipes? It's that simple? I was also wondering about the featured recipes section. There's not very many in there, and I imagine there's not very many folks around to do reviews compared to GAR on Wikipedia. How do you handle content review? Thanks. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 01:51, 1 March 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] and welcome! For some context, the Cookbook has been around since the very beginning of Wikibooks, but it had gotten into a bit of disarray over the course of about two decades by the time I found it. I started the long process of overhauling, standardizing, and expanding it just over four years ago—I finished standardizing the recipe formatting and quality a while back and am currently working my way through the ingredient pages before moving on to equipment, techniques, and cuisines. You can absolutely add any public domain recipes as well as your own recipes—they just need to conform to the [[Cookbook:Policy/Recipe template|recipe template]] and [[Cookbook:Policy|Cookbook policy overall]]. It's even better if you've made the recipe and can contribute a nice picture and specific guidance/instructions/notes! Please feel free to ask me any questions. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:27, 1 March 2025 (UTC) ::Oh, and regarding the featured recipes section, I actually haven't gotten around to looking into that yet—there's been a lot to do! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:28, 1 March 2025 (UTC) ::That's great, thanks a lot for your response. This is just delightful. Maybe content review is something that we could collaborate on. There's a lot of recipes in here and it would be nice to know which ones are the best. Question for you, [[:Category:Brown sauces]] is really bothering me. How can I move that to Brown sauce recipes? [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 02:29, 1 March 2025 (UTC) :::Good catch on that category! It seems like it was created two decades ago and never got corrected—feel free to recategorize those recipes. Thank you also for introducing the hideprefix parameter to the category trees—I didn't realize that was an option, and it reduces the visual clutter! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:38, 1 March 2025 (UTC) ::::My pleasure! As I continue to look at the categories, this is actually worse than I thought. We have both [[:Category:Sauce recipes]] and [[:Category:Recipes for condiments]] and I suspect that's just the beginning. I want to go through and categorize everything properly, but the bones aren't even there... How long do I have to be here before it'll let me create and move around categories? [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 02:40, 1 March 2025 (UTC) :::::Regarding the categories, the category overhauling is in progress, since I address the category when I overhaul the associated page. The variation in titling is actually somewhat deliberate—I started changing it from "____ recipes" in certain cases to solve a particular categorization problem. Sometimes, there is an item that is used in recipes as an ingredient but for which there are also recipes. For example, [[:Category:Recipes for bread]] versus [[:Category:Recipes using bread]]. The different naming scheme is necessary to properly delineate the categories, and I'm working on implementing it a bit more consistently as I go. While you're still getting started, it would be great if you could check with me when something looks odd or out of place—that way I can take a look and weigh in on whether that's normal or not and maybe provide some context. Just off the top of my head, I think you will have to wait for autoreview status to make move changes. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:56, 1 March 2025 (UTC) ::::::I see what you're saying, I've been trying to wrap my head around that. Maybe it would be beneficial to try to put together some sort of a Cookbook MOS regarding category structure? It's kind of all over the place right now. Using your bread example, would it perhaps make more sense to have [[:Category:Bread recipes]] and [[:Category:Recipes using bread]]? There would be no ambiguity with just those two categories, but when you add the extra [[:Category:Recipes for bread]], that's when things start getting a little whacky. What do you think? [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 03:05, 1 March 2025 (UTC) :::::::Either that or get rid of [[:Category:Bread recipes]] and keep the other two. But one of these categories gotta go, I reckon. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 03:07, 1 March 2025 (UTC) ::::::::I see you already had the same thought as me. I think all categories should include "for" or "using". Take for example, [[:Category:Recipes for pancakes]] as opposed to [[:Category:Pancake recipes]]. Well obviously there's no recipes using pancakes. But for something like [[:Category:Recipes for gravy]], there may also be a need for [[:Category:Recipes using gravy]]. The lack of consistency in this regard means the only way to achieve consistency across the categories is by changing them over to that format. Sorry for clogging up your talk page! [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 03:18, 1 March 2025 (UTC) :::::::::Same heads-up as below—migrating this over to [[Cookbook talk:Table of Contents]] —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:10, 4 March 2025 (UTC) :Also, on [[Cookbook:Table of Contents]], could you please add a wikilink for [[Cookbook:Breakfast]], and maybe add cooknav to the top for seamless navigation between all the top level articles? Can't edit that article yet. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 02:47, 1 March 2025 (UTC) == More Table of Content Edits == Hello again. I've been going through everything and this is my list of suggestions for edits to the table of contents. Unfortunately there's not much else I can do for now, because without autoconfirmed my ability to change anything is very limited. I was going to ask for someone to check off the confirmed box for me at RfP but I can't post there either, so I guess I'll be back in four days. * Fix Bread wikilink * Remove "Creaming" from techniques, redirected to Mixing * [[Cookbook:History of Food and Cooking]] points to redirect, needs capitalized * [[Cookbook:Low-Carb]] points to redirect, needs capitalized * [[Cookbook:Cuisine of the Mediterranean]] to [[Cookbook:Mediterranean Cuisine]] for parity * Remove the S from the cuisine wikilinks on ToC, currently redirecting * Create [[:Category:Lunch recipes]], wikilink to ToC * Wikilink [[Cookbook:Dessert]] under Meals * Get rid of "Brunch"; will just be confusing alongside a breakfast and lunch category * Create [[Cookbook:East Asian Cuisine]] so I can add the recipes from [[:Category:East Asian recipes]] to it; currently is a redlink on the ToC * Change "Introductory Matter" header to just "Introduction" * Appendix and Equipment sections switch places Cheers, [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 11:46, 1 March 2025 (UTC) :I took the liberty of doing it myself in my userspace. You can just copy it over from [[User:MediaKyle/sandbox]]. Figured I'd save you the trouble of trying to figure out what I'm talking about. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 14:15, 1 March 2025 (UTC) :Circling back to this! It seems like your suggestions are getting at a couple different things. I'll try to go through them point-by-point below: :* {{xt|Fix Bread wikilink}} {{done}} :* {{xt|Remove "Creaming" from techniques, redirected to Mixing}} see below comments on TOC. :* {{xt|Cookbook:History of Food and Cooking points to redirect, needs capitalized}} {{not done}} for now because I don't fully understand the urgency and I want to triage/prioritize things for you, but please feel free to make this change yourself once you can! :* {{xt|Cookbook:Low-Carb points to redirect, needs capitalized}} {{not done}} for same reason as above. :* {{xt|Cookbook:Cuisine of the Mediterranean to Cookbook:Mediterranean Cuisine for parity}} {{not done}} for now just because we do have a lot of cuisine pages that follow the form "Cuisine of ____". It could be good to standardize, and I had been planning to do that once I got around to the cuisines. :* {{xt|Remove the S from the cuisine wikilinks on ToC, currently redirecting}} {{not done}} for same reason as other redirects :* {{xt|Create Category:Lunch recipes, wikilink to ToC}} Not quite sure what you mean here, and I didn't see what it corresponded to in your linked sandbox page :* {{xt|Wikilink Cookbook:Dessert under Meals}} {{done}} :* {{xt|Get rid of "Brunch"; will just be confusing alongside a breakfast and lunch category}} I'm not sure about this—brunch is in many places considered a separate entity, and I don't necessarily think it would cause confusion. But, overall it's hard to determine whether it should have its own page and TOC link because I haven't actually gotten around to evaluating the meal pages and what role they should play. See also the TOC notes below. :* {{xt|Create Cookbook:East Asian Cuisine so I can add the recipes from Category:East Asian recipes to it; currently is a redlink on the ToC}} {{done}} for now; however, I'm not sure yet whether it will ultimately make sense to keep that as a content page. I think content pages should be reasonably focused, and it may not be the best to have a cuisine page that is so broad. This is something I planned to consider once I made my way around the overhauling the cuisines. :* {{xt|Change "Introductory Matter" header to just "Introduction"}} The reason I made it "Introductory Matter" instead of "Introduction" is because there's already a chapter itself titled "Introduction"—it felt odd to have the entire section titled that as well. Happy to discuss other header options (e.g. "Front Matter", which is a generally accepted book term) :* {{xt|Appendix and Equipment sections switch places}} see below comments on TOC. :* '''Comments on the TOC:''' So, I think a fundamental issue with the current TOC is that it somewhat arbitrarily picks and chooses individual pages to link. It also sometimes direct-links to categories and sometimes to content pages, which I don't think we should do. Because the cookbook is so expansive, it's been established that manual indices intending to capture detail in large areas don't really make sense and quickly get bulky and out-of-date. This is why categorytree is such a useful tool! After thinking on it for a while and making some small tweaks, I think I'd ultimately like to overhaul the TOC and come to a solution that keeps a few broad headers/links to the small handful of the primary content pages while perhaps stashing away more detailed and self-updating lists in a collapsible way to reduce clutter but allow for customizable user navigation. Much to think about, and I'll probably workshop some things on the side to see how they feel. :Let me know if I've misunderstood anything! Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 03:24, 3 March 2025 (UTC) ::Thanks for the notes! Here's my thoughts: ::* On the Cuisine titling, it actually seems like [[Cookbook:Cuisine of the Mediterranean]] and [[Cookbook:East Asian cuisines]] are the only ones that don't follow the naming scheme, i.e. "[[Cookbook:African Cuisine]]", and I think that shorter titles are preferable where it makes sense. ::* On your note about East Asian Cuisine, I actually had the same thought after going through the cuisine pages. Having three separate pages for different kinds of Asian cuisine does seem a little silly, doesn't it? Do you think it might be better to combine all of them under one "Asian Cuisine", but put the different locales under separate headers? ::* On Brunch - I honestly think there's way too much ambiguity around what exactly constitutes as "brunch" to keep that in. I feel as though the term brunch more applies to the time you're eating, rather than the kind of food. I think it would be easier to keep meals that include commonly accepted breakfast foods in the Breakfast category, and things that don't fit neatly into that, into the Lunch category. This would prevent any dilemmas in the future where we can't decide whether something is breakfast or brunch. ::* You're right that it looks a little awkward to have the header as Introduction when there's a page called introduction. I still think that to say "Introductory Matter", or "Front Matter" as you mentioned, is a little long-winded and reflects a more academic tone than needed for a cookbook. Upon further reflection, I think maybe rather than worrying about the header at this point, we should perhaps think about trying to compile all of those short introductory type pages into one comprehensive introductory page. Then we likely won't even need a header for it on the ToC. ::* The ToC is definitely a bit cluttered, and it bothers me too that there's a real lack of consistency across whether the wikilinks lead to a page or a category. I'm not sure how I would feel about cutting away too much of the navigation from it, though, because just about every page on there does have a reason to be there, it's just that they're not presented very nicely. Some of it can certainly get nested or combined though. I'll play around with it over the next few days in my sandbox as well and let you know if I come up with anything. ::* As an aside, the first thing on my to-do list once my autoconfirmed comes through is to start subcategorizing all of the recipes so that they're all nicely sorted in the category trees. When you have a chance, I'd love to hear your thoughts on what we should use as the standard naming for categories. Once we determine this, I think we can also take the liberty of updating the cookbook MoS to reflect it. ::Cheers, [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 11:33, 3 March 2025 (UTC) :::Note: After writing this, I realized what you were getting at about slashing away some of the subpages. Maybe we can come up with a system where all of those subpages are under their main subpage rather than on the ToC. For example, all the Cuisines are under [[Cookbook:Cuisines]], all techniques under [[Cookbook:Cooking Techniques]], to keep the subpages off the main ToC. Also, I wonder if maybe we should try to make a centralized discussion for this somewhere, in case anyone else wants to join in at some point? [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 11:45, 3 March 2025 (UTC) ::::Heads-up: to make it easier to keep track of these and since I think they deserve their own discussions, I'm going to gradually migrate them over individually to [[Cookbook talk:Table of Contents]]. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:52, 4 March 2025 (UTC) :::::Good idea. Can you remove the semi-protection from that talk page? I see no reason why it should be protected. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 23:23, 4 March 2025 (UTC) == Cookbook ToC == Hi [[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]]. I was just wondering why you didn't respond to my above message, and started a separate sandbox for the ToC instead? It seems as though you don't really want to collaborate. It would be nice if we could work on this together. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 22:43, 2 March 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] thanks for the ping! I'm sorry you feel like I don't want to collaborate—the opposite is true, and please understand that this is good-faith editing. The reason I haven't responded to the above points is mostly since you've been modifying a bunch of content and adding suggestions lately, and I've been working my way through these while continuing with my routine contributions and real life as well—things happen a little more slowly here than on other projects, and I'm the one person dedicated to the cookbook right now. The reason I created that sandbox was because I saw [[Wikibooks:Reading room/General#Modernize the shelves|your comment]] at the reading room and wanted to play around and think about your suggestion without touching the actual TOC. You're right that it's not the best, and it's been something I've been thinking about for a bit now. Please understand also that it can be overwhelming when a new editor unfamiliar with the Cookbook begins making a high volume of edits and suggestions without having much experience with it or its history—this isn't to say that you don't have good ideas or things worth contributing. In fact, you have already made a few helpful changes, as I've mentioned. I just want to do this properly and take the time to evaluate your suggestions together with the current efforts that are underway, and that can take a bit. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:03, 2 March 2025 (UTC) ::Thanks for getting back to me. While I may be new to Wikibooks, I'm certainly not new to MediaWiki, and I've been working with small wiki projects for a number of years. Perhaps it's been a misunderstanding to some degree, but I've found my reception here to be unusually unwelcoming. The way to do this properly, as you said, would be to have discussions and form consensus. Yesterday, when you reached out to me about adding hideroot to the pages, I gave you my rationale and was more than happy to have a discussion about it, but you did not reply. I noticed a similar situation happened with [https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User_talk:Ottawahitech#Category_sorting Ottawahitech], regarding category sorting. I'm aware that you're the main person looking after the cookbook right now, which is why I reached out to you right from the get go. ::I understand why you would want to create your own sandbox to play around with options for the ToC, but I'm sure you can understand why it would draw my attention that you would do this without implementing any of the wikilink fixes I mentioned, or making an attempt to discuss it further. This came across to me as not wanting my help. ::I invite you to check out my page on Wikipedia. I've made contributions across quite a wide area of topics there, as well as the other Wikimedia projects, and this is the first time I've encountered any sort of resistance to my contributions. I think Wikibooks has enormous potential, and I'm very excited to contribute to helping it grow. On most projects, this would be something to be encouraged. I don't feel like "I'm sorry that you feel that way" was really an appropriate response. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 23:59, 2 March 2025 (UTC) :::I think you're right that this has been a mix of misunderstanding and miscommunication, and I think I can understand how things came across as unwelcoming! For whatever it's worth, I absolutely plan on circling back to the various discussions at hand (I have all the relevant pages open to return to), but it seems like the order I did things made it seem like I was ignoring you (if I'm understanding correctly). I am pretty busy, so sometimes items on my to-do list do get lost/shunted or it takes me a bit to get around to something—please don't hesitate to give me a ping if it seems like I'm taking a while to get back to something. Looking forward to more collaboration! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:49, 3 March 2025 (UTC) ::::I'm glad you can understand where I'm coming from. To clarify, my intent is not to try to rush you, or to try to push you to make changes that you don't agree with. It's really easy to misinterpret things over the Internet, and I think a short message can go a long way. I apologize if I've caused you any undue stress by coming into the cookbook and unleashing a flurry of alterations, but do rest assured that I'm not married to any of my changes, I'm always open for discussion, and I want to see the cookbook improve just like you do. The great thing about wikis is that no change is permanent. I think we'll have it in tip-top shape in no time! [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 01:19, 3 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Cookbook:Polish Doughnuts (Paczki)]] == Do you see any reason not to just add this to Featured Recipes? At least we know this one works, and it seems like this is now one of the few recipes to have a picture that actually aligns with the recipe used. I was thinking later on we'll come up with a content review system where a couple editors will actually try the recipes nominated for FR, but in the absence of that I'd just add it to the list. [[User:MediaKyle|MediaKyle]] ([[User talk:MediaKyle|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MediaKyle|contribs]]) 12:25, 4 March 2025 (UTC) :I'm fine with adding it to the featured recipes. You're right that we'll want to come up with a good system for this going forward, though it's lower down on my personal priority list at moment. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:15, 4 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Cookbook:Cream Cheese American Buttercream]] == Hi! I am a wikiHow user and I am planning to adapt this recipe to wikiHow. Since you contributed to this recipe, I wanted to know if I can get permission to reuse your contributions to this recipe. Thanks. [[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] ([[User talk:Xeverything11|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xeverything11|contribs]]) 21:41, 4 March 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Xeverything11|Xeverything11]] that's fine with me as long as proper attribution and linking back to the original recipe page here are included at the top. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:28, 4 March 2025 (UTC) == [[A Companion to Our Literary Journey]] == Hi! I feel that we have started to outline the scope in a clearer and more precise way and that’s the work we are going to do with the students this and for the next years, adding more sections and content. Do you think that would be enough? [[User:Ferdi2005|Ferdi2005]] ([[User talk:Ferdi2005|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ferdi2005|contribs]]) 22:43, 6 March 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Ferdi2005|Ferdi2005]]! Yes, this seems to be reasonably outlined. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:51, 7 March 2025 (UTC) == Exercising care with copyright == When deleting a page as a copyright violation, it is important that you '''do not quote any content from the deleted page'''. If you do, then your log entry is itself a copyright violation. I have redacted a recent deletion that you performed because of this. If you want to make sure that none of your past deletions have been problematic for this reason, you can [[quarry:query/90444|run this SQL query]] to get a list of every deletion that could be eligible for redaction. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 18:32, 21 March 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] and thank you for the message. In the most recent instance that I think you're referencing, I do not see any material in the edit summary that posed a significant risk—I don't believe the few listed words would be a copyright concern. However, I do understand your concern! Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:31, 21 March 2025 (UTC) == Splitting Pages == Hi I have recently made the book on the [[History of the Nawabs of Bengal]] and you gave a notice on how you believe it should be split into smaller bits. As I am still new to wikibooks I don't know how to do this. Can you please assist me on renaming the page so I can split the page into multiple pages? @[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] [[User:Greatswrd|Greatswrd]] ([[User talk:Greatswrd|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Greatswrd|contribs]]) 19:47, 29 March 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Greatswrd|Greatswrd]]: You did it. I've removed the tag. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[wikt:she|she]]/[[wikt:they|they]]) 22:44, 29 March 2025 (UTC) :Like @[[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] said, you're all set! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:53, 29 March 2025 (UTC) ::Thanks! @[[User:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] @[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] [[User:Greatswrd|Greatswrd]] ([[User talk:Greatswrd|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Greatswrd|contribs]]) 10:24, 30 March 2025 (UTC) == Minecraft book == Is it good creating pages like this, [[Minecraft#Husk]]? [[User:Cactusisme|Cactusisme]] ([[User talk:Cactusisme|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cactusisme|contribs]]) 12:43, 9 May 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Cactusisme|Cactusisme]] what do you mean? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:18, 10 May 2025 (UTC) ::are we allowed to create pages like that? like for every mob [[User:Cactusisme|Cactusisme]] ([[User talk:Cactusisme|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cactusisme|contribs]]) 10:02, 11 May 2025 (UTC) :::To be honest, I don't think the structure and formatting of the book is very good. Several of the mob pages, for example, have very little information and aren't particularly helpful on their own. If I were working on it, I would restructure the book. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 14:09, 11 May 2025 (UTC) ::::I am planning to do that. [[User:Cactusisme|Cactusisme]] ([[User talk:Cactusisme|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cactusisme|contribs]]) 04:19, 12 May 2025 (UTC) == Request to Review Adjusted User Page (XoriantTeam) == Hello [[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]], I hope you're well. I noticed that my user page ([[User:XoriantTeam]]) was recently deleted for appearing promotional or inappropriate for Wikibooks. Thank you for keeping the community standards in check. I’ve since revised the content with closer attention to neutrality and compliance with Wikibooks guidelines. My intent is to participate constructively, especially in areas related to digital engineering and educational content creation. If possible, I’d appreciate your help reviewing the revised version. I'm happy to share it or upload it as a file if there’s a preferred method. Please let me know how best to proceed. I welcome any suggestions and will gladly make further adjustments. Best regards, XoriantTeam [[User:XoriantTeam|XoriantTeam]] ([[User talk:XoriantTeam|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/XoriantTeam|contribs]]) 11:02, 15 May 2025 (UTC) :Hi there—you can publish an updated user page, but I'd caution you against talking about your company. Keep it limited to your involvement with Wikibooks. You may contribute productively here, but further promotional materials are grounds for an indefinite block. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:30, 15 May 2025 (UTC) == Planning to use AWB to update categories on the cookbook == Hello. I noticed in recent changes that you were moving some categories using HotCat (e.g. moving Category:Chile recipes to Category:Recipes using chile), which can be time-consuming. Therefore, I plan to help you with moving the cookbook categories by adding myself to enabledusers and enabledbots in [[Wikibooks:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPageJSON]]. Would this be fine if I assist you and to add myself to the check page? I am familiar with using AWB after testing on a non-Wikimedia project. Thank you. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 04:42, 8 June 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]]—thank you for the tip! I just installed JWB, so this should make my mass cat changes much faster. Thanks again! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 13:11, 8 June 2025 (UTC) :: Thank you for the information. Also, is it okay if I change (for example) [[:Category:Vinegar recipes]] to [[:Category:Recipes using vinegar]] (I can redirect the former category to the latter), given that we should move {{tq|Category:[ingredient] recipes}} to {{tq|Category:Recipes using [ingredient]}} for consistency? [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 16:57, 8 June 2025 (UTC) :::Sure thing—go ahead! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 17:53, 8 June 2025 (UTC) == Tool for even faster category changes == See [[:c:Help:Gadget-Cat-a-lot#As_your_user_gadget]]. I just [https://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=User:Koavf/common.js&action=history installed it] and used it dozens of times in a click. Let me know if you need any help. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:36, 19 June 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] Thanks! I'm having a little trouble activating it, but I'll keep trying. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:54, 19 June 2025 (UTC) ::A lot of times, a purge will do the trick. See [[:mw:Purge]]. Usually just <kbd>Ctrl+Shift+R</kbd> once or twice. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:55, 19 June 2025 (UTC) :::Took several purges, but we're set now! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:16, 19 June 2025 (UTC) == Advice on when I should run for adminship == Hi, I hope you are doing well. I am asking for some advice on when I should run for enwikibooks adminship, given the following below: Currently, I am doing some optimizations for dark mode on this project, and some of the message box/MediaWiki interface/template pages might be outdated, fully protected, or can use a little help using mw-parser-output. These unfortunately might hinder the process of updating these pages/templates for Vector 2022's dark mode.<br> Additionally, I have a solid expertise with edit filters, as I have requested some administrators to update deprecated filter variables, switching filters from warn and disallow to disallow only, and I can also monitor the filter log for potential false positives (from local or global filters). A fellow English Wikibooks administrator also said to me that they are willing to support me in a few months when I run for adminship, as I am generally trusted. I hold two advanced global permissions, and I hold an edit filter helper permission on the English Wikipedia, to be sure. Thank you for your consideration. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 01:02, 23 June 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]]—good question! I agree that you are a trusted user, and I think it would be reasonable for you to run for adminship, especially given our need to fix up technical aspects of the project. If you don't plan to commit to Wikibooks long-term (i.e. you have some projects you'd like to take a few months to complete and then be done), you can always request temporary adminship. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 17:30, 23 June 2025 (UTC) :: Thank you for your feedback, but I also plan to monitor for vandalism/spam, and to commit to reduce the administrative assistance reading room backlog, should I be elected for adminship (and I forgot to mention those). Anyway, regarding your feedback, I might run by August or even July, given that I've lately started contributing more often to Wikibooks. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 18:29, 23 June 2025 (UTC) ::: [[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]], I am pinging you one more time to see if you have read my response above yours. Thank you. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 16:34, 26 June 2025 (UTC) ::::Hi @[[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]]! I'm not sure what you mean—was there an additional question you had? Everything you've outlined seems quite reasonable. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:26, 26 June 2025 (UTC) ::::: Apologies for the confusion, I don't have any questions to ask. I was clarifying that I can help with implementing edit requests and to block obvious vandals and spammers, aside from the skills I mentioned earlier. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Codename Noreste|contribs]]) 18:32, 26 June 2025 (UTC) == how is it you feel able to interfere in my sandbox? == you deleted a page in my sandbox that was my way of providing my response to a request from an OpenSCAD dev team leader for a couple of text blurbs for use on a web page of the OpenSCAD site. now that you have deleted my page i have to recreate the texts from a screenshot to be able to offer the suggestions, which i will This kind of high handed treatment is what keeps me from being a wiki-anything contributor .. If it is Wiki policy to interfere in the documentation of an open source project because it is hosted on Wikibooks then i will take up the task of moving our online docs to a site where you cannot interfere. -- [[User:VulcanWikiEdit|VulcanWikiEdit]] ([[User talk:VulcanWikiEdit|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/VulcanWikiEdit|contribs]]) 21:56, 29 June 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:VulcanWikiEdit|VulcanWikiEdit]]—thanks for bringing this to my attention. I now understand that this was intended to be in your user namespace—I've undeleted it and moved it to the correct namespace for you. Let me know if anything else comes up! Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 01:05, 30 June 2025 (UTC) ::ah .. err .. umm .. well that is a gentle answer to my ire. Thanks for being so gracious [[User:VulcanWikiEdit|VulcanWikiEdit]] ([[User talk:VulcanWikiEdit|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/VulcanWikiEdit|contribs]]) 20:29, 30 June 2025 (UTC) ::and .. isn't my sandbox in my namespace by default? [[User:VulcanWikiEdit|VulcanWikiEdit]] ([[User talk:VulcanWikiEdit|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/VulcanWikiEdit|contribs]]) 20:30, 30 June 2025 (UTC) :::No worries—it looks like you didn't add the prefix "User:" before writing out the full page titles, so the pages you created were technically in the project's Main space with the official published materials. Going forward, you can just double-check that the page title starts with "'''User:'''VulcanWikiEdit/sandbox", and that should keep everything in the right place! Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 21:36, 30 June 2025 (UTC) ::::BTW .. i love the play on cat lover name [[User:VulcanWikiEdit|VulcanWikiEdit]] ([[User talk:VulcanWikiEdit|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/VulcanWikiEdit|contribs]]) 15:35, 1 July 2025 (UTC) :::::Thank you! That's very kind. —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:46, 1 July 2025 (UTC) 335k5noy5e84wywy26ysqdjlvgr8ixy Mirad Grammar/Stress 0 448086 4520802 4490332 2025-07-01T17:26:18Z Tyoyafud 6233 4520802 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>{{status|100%}}</noinclude> :: Although '''''stress''''' in Mirad is not marked and is not phonemic, i.e. not semantically distinctive, in all words of more than one syllable, the stress occurs on the '''''last, non-final vowel''''', including glided vowels. The following chart gives some examples: {| class="wikitable" style="background:lightyellow; font-size:smaller; margin-left:4.8em" |+ Stress |- ! Mirad Word !! With Stress and Syllabification Marked |- | '''tejna'''....''vital'' || '''tej'''-na |- | '''igay'''....''quickly'' || '''i'''-gay<sup>1</sup> |- | '''alayn'''....''eleventh'' || a-'''layn''' |- | '''Mirad'''....''Mirad'' || Mi-'''rad''' |- | '''booka'''....''tired'' || bo-'''o'''-ka<sup>2</sup> |- | '''bookan'''....''fatigue'' || bo-o-'''kan''' |- | '''akea'''....''winning'' || a-'''ke'''-a |- | '''oyse'''....''lacks'' || '''oy'''-se |- | '''byoskyin'''....''pendulum'' || byos-'''kyin''' |- | '''pyaon'''....''wave'' || pya-'''on''' |- | '''tooyba'''....''female'' || to-'''oy'''-ba |- | '''yansauna'''....''common'' || yan-sa-'''u'''-na |} : <sup>1</sup> <small>Here '''ay''' is a single post-y-glided vowel, and final, so it is not stressed. </small> : <sup>2</sup> <small>Two vowels in a row are pronounced in two syllables.</small> : Here is a small passage where the stress of vowels in shown by boldfacing: :: Hya t'''o'''bi t'''a'''je y'''i'''va ay g'''e'''a be utf'''i'''z ay doy'''i'''vi. Yit b'''u'''lwe tex'''ya'''f ay tyaf ay y'''ey'''fe hyuitaxl'''e'''r tid'''ye'''nay. :: ''All men are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act toward one another as brothers.'' <noinclude>{{Chapter navigation with TOC|Syllabification|Phonotactics}}</noinclude> nqd7vtcjpaft4726dxhzf91uztbibrc Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...e5/2. Nf3/2...Nc6/3. Bb5/3...Qf6 0 465080 4520929 4520754 2025-07-02T10:39:37Z FlamingFabrication 3504563 /* Themes */ Added overflow for diagrams in themes. 4520929 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Chess Opening Theory/Position |Frankfurt defence |eco=[[Chess/ECOC|C60—99]] |parent=[[../|Ruy Lopez]] }} == 3...Qf6!? · Frankfurt defence == The move '''3...Qf6!?''' is a rare and provocative sideline in the Ruy López. Ignoring conventional wisdom, Black develops their queen early. '''3...Qf6''' aids in the defense of the e5 pawn as well as the knight on c6. Further, the queen adds a piece to the control of d4 and looks to potentially start a future kingside attack. If White delays castling, the queen can route to g6 (typically in response to Nc3 to Nd5) and pressure the undefended g2 pawn. Black's plan typically includes developing with Bc5 and Nge7, often delaying the advancement of the d-pawn. Black may also opt to play Bd6 instead staying solid and with an eye on h2 should the diagonal open up. While the king knight is denied its usual post on f6, from e7 it can control d5, preventing White from easily playing Nd5 and also nullifies White's threat of trading off the knight on c6 and damaging Black's pawn structure. White's plans are, as usual in the Ruy López, to castle quickly and take over the center with c3 and d4 pawn pushes. '''4. c3''' readies a d4 advance. Black can respond with Nge7, Bd6, Bc5, or a6. g5 is particularly provocative, aiming to advance to g4 and displace White's knight.<ref name="mariotti">e.g. [https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1296616 Micheli v Mariotti, 1969 - Chessgames.com]</ref> '''4. O-O''' may be met by 4...Bc5 5. c3 Nge7. On e7, the knight is ready to capture back if Bxc6 and therefore keep control of the center. '''4. Nc3''' develops a piece usually with an aim to play Nd5, displacing the black queen and potentially hindering Black's development and/or defense of e5 and c7. === Themes === The Frankfurt Defence is quite sharp and often requires careful positional play that can take on many different characteristics. Sometimes this involves open lines after trading some minor-pieces and other times Black will try to keep things closed with careful positioning of pieces. While White can force the position open with an exchange of pieces, this can liberate Black's remaining pieces, freeing them for counterplay. With 4. Nc3, White may attempt to dominate early, aiming to plant a knight Nd5 to harass the Black queen. This leaves the e4 pawn undefended. As in many Ruy López positions, if White is not mindful of this pawn when they are uncastled, the Black queen can exploit this vulnerability. 4...Bd6 is a thematic move, where Bc5 is impractical because of the c7 vulnerability. Despite looking anti-positional, the bishop holds both the e5 and c7 pawns and can potentially become useful in an assault on h2 in the future. Black's light-square bishop will often be content to sit on it's starting square, aiding in king-side play after the d-pawn has moved. Alternatively, it sometimes finds a home on b7 after using the a and b pawns to kick White's light-square bishop away. a6 in particular works well in conjunction in positions where Bc5 is played instead of Bd6, giving Black's dark-square bishop a retreat square, potentially allowing both of Black's bishops to eye White's kingside from relative safety. After 4. Nc3 Bd6 5. Nd5 Qg6 (see Diagram 1), Black's queen is threatening to win the pawn on e4. Play typically continues with 6. O-O or 6. d3 securing the e4 pawn. Instead, if White is careless and plays 6. Nh4 then 6...Qxe4+ wins a piece. Instead of committing to Nd5, White may opt to castle. This gives Black the opportunity for 5...Nd4 6. Nxd4 exd4 7. Nd5 Qh6 (see Diagram 2). This blows up the center where we can see the thematic bishop on d6 come good in a mating threat that can potentially weaken White's queen-side. In exchange, White has much better development and can quickly mount an attack on the e-file, often forcing the Black king to see safety on d8. Another theme that arises from time to time is a c6 fork of the bishop on b5 and the knight on d5 after Black's knight has vacated c6. This can arise in a line such as 5. d4 Nxd4 6. Nxd4 exd4 7. Nd5 Qg6 8. O-O c6 (see Diagram 3). While Black is certainly worse in this particular line, the idea presents itself in similar configurations and is incumbent on White to play accurately. <div style="display:flex;overflow-x:auto;gap:0.1em;"> {{Chess/board | moves = 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Qf6 4. Nc3 Bd6 5. Nd5 Qg6 | caption = Diagram 1 }} {{Chess/board | moves = 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Qf6 4. Nc3 Bd6 5. O-O Nd4 6. Nxd4 exd4 7. Nd5 Qh6 | caption = Diagram 2 }} {{Chess/board | moves = 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Qf6 4. Nc3 Bd6 5. d4 Nxd4 6. Nxd4 exd4 7. Nd5 Qg6 8. O-O c6 | caption = Diagram 3 }} </div> === History === 3...Qf6 has no official name in the Encyclopedia of Chess Openings (ECO). The book ''The Ruy Lopez: Winning Chess with 1 P-K4'' (1963) by Leonard Barden predates the ECO and calls this variation the "Frankfurt Defence".<ref name="barden">{{Cite book |title=The Ruy Lopez: Winning Chess with 1 P-K4 |last=Barden |first=Leonard |publisher=Pergamon Press |year=1963 |isbn=0 08 009997 1 |location=Oxford |url=https://archive.org/details/ruylopezwinningc0000bard|pages=153-4}}</ref> They place it towards the "outrageous" end of their list of "irregular and bizarre defences". While the origins of the name are uncertain, the "Frankfurt Defence" is possibly attributed to a 3...Qf6 game between Jean Taubenhaus and Louis Paulsen during the 5th DSB Congress, in Frankfurt, Germany in 1887.<ref>{{Cite web |title=Jean Taubenhaus vs Louis Paulsen (1887) |url=https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1266423 |access-date=2025-06-28 |website=www.chessgames.com}}</ref> Documented theory for 3...Qf6 dates back to at least 1843 in the Handbuch des Schachspiels (Handbook of Chess). It cites the dubious line: 4. c3 a6 5. Bxc6 Qxc6 6. O-O Qxe4 7. Nxe5 Be7 8. Re1 Qf5 9. d4 d6 10. Nf3 Be6. The Handbuch notes that white is likely better off with 4. Nc3 instead.<ref>{{Cite book |last=Baron von Heydebrand und der Lasa |first=Tassilo |url=https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=BU8rAAAAYAAJ&pg=GBS.PP1&hl=en |title=Handbuch des Schachspiels |publisher=Veit |year=1843 |location=Germany |pages=168 |language=de}}</ref> One of the earliest recorded games of 3...Qf6 was played in Howard Staunton vs Bernhard Horwitz at the then London Chess Club in 1846.<ref>{{Cite web |title=Howard Staunton vs Bernhard Horwitz (1846) |url=https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1271912 |access-date=2025-06-28 |website=www.chessgames.com}}</ref> In 2021, Grandmaster Aman Hambleton experimented with this opening and, finding there was no official name for it in the ECO, gave it the eponym "The Hambleton Defense" and noted its tricky king-side play.<ref name="hambleton">{{Cite web |title=I invented a NEW chess opening |url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMaawPAAi68 |last=Hambleton |first=Aman (Chessbrah) |date=2021-11-17 |access-date=2025-06-18 |website=Youtube}}</ref> The [[wikipedia:Chess.com|Chess.com]] opening book refers to the opening as the "Ruy López Opening: Gunderam Variation" apparently by analogy with the Gunderam defence, [[Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...e5/2. Nf3/2...Qe7|1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Qe7]]. In the Gunderam defence, Black also defends the e5 pawn with the queen, but this involves an early Qe7 not Qf6 and [[wikipedia:Gerhart Gunderam|Gerhart Gunderam]] is not known to have had an affiliation with 3...Qf6. == Theory table == {{ChessTable}} {{Chess/theory table |links=0 |name1=Frankfurt defence |line1=4. Nc3 Nge7 5. d3 Nd4 6. Nxd4 exd4 7. Ne2 c6 8. Ba4 d5 9. O-O g6 10. b4 |eval1=<ref name="barden" />{{Chess/not|+}} |line2=4. c3 g5 5. d4 g4 6. Nxe5 Nxe5 7. dxe5 Qxe5 |eval2={{Chess/not|+}} |line3=4. O-O Bc5 5. c3 Nge7 6. Re1 a6 7. d4 axb5 8. dxc5 O-O |eval3={{Chess/not|+}} }} {{ChessMid}} == References == {{Reflist}} === See also === {{BCO2}} {{ChessFooter}} {{BookCat}} m8rnok6uua9dzw0e7vi7unr88rmi8qm Transportation Deployment Casebook/2024/Hangzhou Metro 0 465469 4520922 4376623 2025-07-02T09:29:02Z WereSpielChequers 248949 typo 4520922 wikitext text/x-wiki = Hangzhou Metro = == Overview of Hangzhou Metro == === Introduction === The metro, also known as underground railway and underground railway, is a type of urban rail transport that travels in underground tunnels and is usually used for rapid public transport systems within cities. The metro system consists of underground railways, station facilities, rolling stock, power supply systems, signalling systems, and so on. As a modern urban transport system, the metro has become an indispensable part of many metropolises, providing urban residents with a convenient, fast, safe and comfortable way of travelling, and at the same time playing an important role in promoting the development of the city. So in this general trend of metro development, Hangzhou will not be an exception. Hangzhou Metro refers to the urban rail transit system serving Hangzhou City and areas in the Hangzhou metropolitan area in Zhejiang Province, China. Its first line, Hangzhou Metro Line 1<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |title=杭州地铁 |url=https://www.hzmetro.com/service_32.aspx#midc |access-date=2024-03-03 |website=www.hzmetro.com}}</ref>, was officially opened on 24 November 2012, making Hangzhou the fourth city in East China and the first in Zhejiang Province to open a metro. As of November 2023, Hangzhou Metro operates a total of 12 lines, with a total of 260 stations (interchange stations are not repeated) and 46 interchange stations. The total operating mileage is about 516 km (excluding 2 city lines). The total mileage of Hangzhou metropolitan area rail transit network is about 610 km. Before the 19th Asian Games in Hangzhou, Hangzhou has formed "12 underground lines, a total length of 516 kilometres of urban rail transit backbone network, to achieve full coverage of the ten urban areas.<ref name=":1">{{Cite web |title=百度安全验证 |url=https://wappass.baidu.com/static/captcha/tuxing.html?ak=572be823e2f50ea759a616c060d6b9f1&backurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmbd.baidu.com%2Fnewspage%2Fdata%2Flandingsuper%3Fid%3D1728909792385305011%26wfr%3Dspider%26for%3Dpc%26third%3Dbaijiahao%26baijiahao_id%3D1728909792385305011%26c_score%3D0.999100%26c_source%3Dduedge%26c_score%3D0.999100&timestamp=1709469839&signature=e0d525e65c45f9bbb1e76e46f91285aa |access-date=2024-03-03 |website=wappass.baidu.com}}</ref> === Technology and facilities === ==== Technical characteristics ==== Metro is the forerunner of urban rapid transit. Metro is a rapid rail transit system with electric traction, wheel-rail guided, relatively heavy axle weight, a certain scale of capacity, running according to the operation plan, vehicle grouping running in underground tunnels, or according to the specific conditions of the city, running on the ground or elevated lines. Metro capacity, one-way in 30,000 passengers / hour, up to 6 to 80,000 passengers / hour. Maximum speed of up to 90km / h, travelling speed of up to 40km / h or more, can be 4 ~ 10 grouping, the minimum interval between vehicle operation can be less than 1.5min. drive mode has a DC motor, AC motor, linear motors and so on. Metro is expensive, each kilometre of investment in the 300-600 million yuan. Metro has the disadvantages of high construction cost and long construction period, but at the same time, it has the advantages of large capacity, fast construction, safety, punctuality, energy saving, non-pollution of the environment, and saving urban land. Metros are suitable for urban centres with long travel distances and high passenger demand. The underground railway requires a high level of technology, reliability and safety because most of the lines pass underground or elevated. The metro system, like the national trunk railways, is mainly composed of line network, tracks, stations, vehicles, communication signals and other equipment, which requires each department to be able to organically combine and act in concert to maximise the delivery of the task. The following are the main technical parameters.<ref name=":2">{{Cite web |title=杭州地铁 |url=https://www.hzmetro.com/findnews_show.aspx?id=3230 |access-date=2024-03-03 |website=www.hzmetro.com}}</ref> {| class="wikitable" |+ !Order !Project !Technical Parameter |- |1 |Peak hour one-way transportation capacity (person) |30000~70000 |- |2 |Train composition |4-8 sections, up to 11 sections |- |3 |Train capacity (person) |3000 |- |4 |Vehicle construction speed (km/h) |80~100 |- |5 |Average operating speed (km/h) |30~40 |- |6 |Average distance between stations (m) |600~2000 |- |7 |Maximum throughput capacity (pair/h) |30 |- |8 |Isolation rate from ground traffic |100% |- |9 |Security and reliability |Preferably |- |10 |Minimum white line radius (m) |300 |- |11 |Minimum vertical curve radius (m) |3000 |- |12 |Comfortableness |Preferably |- |13 |Urban landscape |No major impact |- |14 |Air pollution, noise pollution |Small |- |15 |Platform height |Generally, it is a high platform |} ==== Vehicle facilities ==== Train system Hangzhou Metro 1, 2, 4, 9, 16 line used in the train is a B-type car, the train for the aluminium alloy body structure, 6 grouping mode (16 line for 4 grouping). Train diameter 2.8 metres, 3.8 metres high, 120 metres long single section of the passenger capacity of the moving car for 348 people, trailer for 321 people, the whole train capacity of 2036 people, the maximum speed of up to 80 kilometres per hour. Hangzhou metro line 3, 5, 6 trains are AH-type cars, AH-type car single car length and B-type cars, 6-vehicle formation when the length of the front column is about 120 metres, the width of 3 metres, the ride in the compartment will be relatively more comfortable, but also can accommodate more passengers.<ref name=":3">{{Cite web |title=杭州至富阳城际铁路有调整 计划和地铁6号线同步建成通车-浙江新闻-浙江在线 |url=https://zjnews.zjol.com.cn/zjnews/hznews/201710/t20171027_5463959.shtml |access-date=2024-03-03 |website=zjnews.zjol.com.cn}}</ref> Hangzhou Metro Line 7, 8, 10, 19 trains are A-type cars, the maximum operating speed of 80 to 120 km / h. A-type underground trains generally use high-strength, lightweight, large cross-section of the drum-type aluminium alloy body, 4-action, 2-trailer 6-vehicle grouping, the car width of 3 metres, the total length of about 140 metres, the maximum passenger capacity of 2,520 people. === Early market niche and the need to build === The development of urban rapid transit is a strategic decision made by Hangzhou City in accordance with the law of urban development and the development needs of productive forces, taking into account the immediate and long-term, which is not only a major event to promote the development of Hangzhou's public transport across the development of Hangzhou, but also a matter of Hangzhou's future development of the city's strategic overall situation for the creation of a new advantage in the development of the city's functions, optimise the environment of the development of Hangzhou, improve the urban taste of Hangzhou and the quality of life of the masses of the people have a significant practical significance and an important strategic impact.<ref>{{Cite web |title=以辛劳和智慧迎接杭州的“地铁时代” |url=https://www.crrcgc.cc/g5122/s10258/t58321.aspx}}</ref> The development of urban rapid transit is a "people's project" to alleviate the problem of "difficult to travel and parking" and to improve the quality of life of the people, and it is a "pilot project" to strengthen the connection between the main city and the sub-cities and to build a networked metropolis in the city area. ". Now "difficult to travel" has become the majority of people in Hangzhou, reflecting the urgent problem of great concern, become an obstacle to economic and social development and affect the people's lives of the prominent contradictions. From domestic and foreign experience and Hangzhou's actual point of view, the construction of rapid transit, constructing a "rail transit as the skeleton, regular buses as the main body, other ways to supplement" modern three-dimensional transport system, is to solve the problem of "travelling and parking difficult" is a good prescription, is Hangzhou The implementation of public transport priority strategy of the urgent and fundamental move. Moreover, the construction of rapid rail transit corridor connecting the main city and the sub-city, the main city and the group, the main city between the areas, is conducive to the construction of Hangzhou, "a main three sub-sub-six groups," the main skeleton of the city, and further optimise the city's urban spatial layout and form. The construction of the first phase of Hangzhou rail transit project will solve the connection between the three sub-cities and the main city in one go, shorten the space-time distance between the sub-cities and the main city, reduce the cost of commuting, and build a half-hour working circle and living circle between the sub-cities and the main city, which makes it easier for people to accept the sub-cities as a place of work, living, residence, shopping and recreation, and then promote the solution to the problem of "difficult housing". and thus promote the solution of the "housing difficulty" problem. Before the metro was built, the only options for travelling were bicycles, electric cars, buses or taxi. Bicycles and electric bikes have a close range, can't cross long distances and take a long time to cost. Buses are cheap but not fast and inefficient, and there are a lot of private cars on the road that can easily get stuck in traffic, which is one of the drawbacks of taking a taxi and driving your own car. Of course, the cost of taking a taxi or driving is also very high. At that time, the infrastructure of the city was not perfect, and there were not many parking spaces, so it was very difficult to find a place to park a private car. Therefore, the advantages of the metro are obvious, and its market is precisely for people who have the need to travel, which can greatly improve people's travelling efficiency and reduce the cost of time and travelling expenses. == Historical background of policies and construction of specific routes of construction == === Policy orientation of construction === In 1984, Hangzhou commissioned the Second Design Institute of the Ministry of Railways to plan the "Feasibility Study of Hangzhou Light Rail Transit System" with two ground-level light rails crossing through the old city of Hangzhou in the shape of a cross.<ref>{{Cite book |title= |isbn=孙建昌. 地上·地下:穿越杭州地铁的时光. 浙江人民出版社. 2012-12. ISBN 978-7-213-05255-2.}}</ref> In 1986, Hangzhou Municipal Planning Bureau commissioned the Survey and Design Department of the Tunnel Engineering Bureau of the Ministry of Railways to prepare and complete the Feasibility Study Report on the Light Rail Transit around the Lake. In 1992, Beijing Municipal Urban Construction Design and Research Institute compiled and completed the first "Pre-feasibility Study Report on Hangzhou Railway Transportation". In February 1993, Hangzhou Municipal Planning and Design Institute completed the Planning Programme for Rapid Transit Line Network. In November 2001, Hangzhou Rail Transit Phase I Feasibility Study was completed. On 6th June 2002, Hangzhou Metro Group Co. In October 2003, the General Office of the State Council issued the Notice on Strengthening the Construction Management of Urban Rapid Transit. In December of the same year, Hangzhou once again declared to the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) the relevant construction plan of Hangzhou Metro. On 6 June 2005, the National Development and Reform Commission approved the "Hangzhou Railway Transport Phase I Construction Plan (2005-2010)".<ref>{{Cite web |title=关于我们 |url=https://www.hzmetro.com/about_1.aspx |access-date=2024-03-03 |website=www.hzmetro.com}}</ref> On 20 June 2013, the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) approved the "Hangzhou Urban Rail Transit Immediate Construction Plan (2013-2019)".<ref>{{Cite web |date=2019-03-23 |title=杭州市城市轨道交通近期建设规划(2013~2019年)通过批准 |url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190323083720/http://www.ndrc.gov.cn/gzdt/201309/t20130925_560269.html |access-date=2024-03-03 |website=web.archive.org}}</ref> On 16 September 2015, Hangzhou successfully bid to host the 2022 Asian Games.On 12 December 2016, the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) approved the Hangzhou Urban Rapid Transit Phase III Construction Plan (2017-2022).<ref>{{Cite web |date=2019-04-05 |title=关于杭州市城市轨道交通第三期建设规划(2017-2022年)的批复(发改基础〔2016〕2639号) |url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190405204631/http://www.ndrc.gov.cn/zcfb/zcfbghwb/201612/t20161222_832263.html |access-date=2024-03-03 |website=web.archive.org}}</ref> === Specific lines open to traffic === {{bookcat}}At 14:30 on 24th November 2012, Metro Line 1 (Xianghu Station - Wenze Road Station; Passenger Transportation Centre Station - Linping Station) was opened for trial operation.<ref>{{Cite web |title=杭州地铁1号线开通试运营 |url=https://www.gov.cn/jrzg/2012-11/24/content_2274872.htm |access-date=2024-03-03 |website=www.gov.cn}}</ref> At 9:15 on 24 November 2014, the southeast section of Metro Line 2 (Chaoyang Station - Qianjiang Road Station) was opened for trial operation.<ref>{{Cite web |date=2019-06-02 |title=杭州地铁2号线东南段试运营发出首列车 _ 杭州地铁2号线东南段开通运营 - 杭州网专题 - 杭州网 |url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190602080817/http://z.hangzhou.com.cn/2014/subway2/content/2014-11/24/content_5539081.htm |access-date=2024-03-03 |website=web.archive.org}}</ref> At 9:30 on 2 February 2015, the first section of Metro Line 4 (Pangbu Station - Jinjiang Station) was opened for trial operation.<ref>{{Cite web |date=2015-02-04 |title=����4������ͨ��2��2�տ�ͨ����Ӫ�� - ���� - ����������̬ - ������̬ - �й����� |url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150204075503/http://www.hangzhou.gov.cn/main/zwdt/bzbd/szcf/T511697.shtml |access-date=2024-03-03 |website=web.archive.org}}</ref> At 15:30 on 3 July 2017, the northwest section of Metro Line 2 Phase 1 (Gucui Road Station - Qianjiang Road Station) was opened for operation.<ref>{{Cite web |title=杭州地铁2号线一期工程(西北段)开通--时政--人民网 |url=http://politics.people.com.cn/n1/2017/0703/c1026-29379453.html |access-date=2024-03-03 |website=politics.people.com.cn}}</ref> At 17:00 on 27 December 2017, the second and third phases of Metro Line 2 (Liangzhu Station - Gucui Road Station) were opened for operation, and Line 2 became the first fully opened metro line in Hangzhou. At 15:00 on 24 June 2019, the first through section of Metro Line 5 (Liangmu Road Station - Shanxian Station) opens for operation.<ref>{{Cite web |title=快不快好不好?杭州地铁5号线首通段初体验-浙江在线杭州在线网站 |url=http://hangzhou.zjol.com.cn/jrsd/bwzg/201906/t20190624_10400959.shtml |access-date=2024-03-03 |website=hangzhou.zjol.com.cn}}</ref> At 11:00 on 30 December 2020, the first phase of Line 6 (Shuangpu Station - Qianjiang Century City Station), the Hangfu section of Line 6 (Guihua West Road Station - Xiangshan Station of the Academy of Fine Arts), and the first through section of Line 7 (Olympic Sports Center Station - Jiangdong Second Road Station) opened for operation.<ref>{{Cite web |date=2022-06-01 |title=开心,今天杭州地铁6号线之浦路站开通 |url=https://web.archive.org/web/20220601064109/https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1698335594396329210&wfr=spider&for=pc |access-date=2024-03-03 |website=web.archive.org}}</ref> At 10:30 on 28 June 2021, Metro Line 8 Phase I (Wenhai South Road Station - Xinwan Road Station) opened for operation. At 14:30 on the same day, Hanghai Intercity Railway (Yuhang High-speed Railway Station - ZJU International Campus Station) opened for operation.<ref>{{Cite web |title=三线齐发|6月28日,地铁8号线、杭海线、杭绍线开通! |url=http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzA3MzE1ODA3Mg==&mid=2652888811&idx=1&sn=9853162623f6ea3bedd9f63c794dace7&chksm=84f8223cb38fab2a24f1848b6a7164e2a5cd62ae3617cf915ddb1484d1173f2e9f5f6b7454ef#rd |access-date=2024-03-03 |website=Weixin Official Accounts Platform}}</ref> At 15:00 on 17 September 2021, the northern section of Metro Line 9 Phase I (Linping Station - Longan Station), and Line 7 Olympic Sports Centre Station (not included) - Civic Centre Station opened for operation.<ref>{{Cite web |title=就在明天下午3点!正式开通_腾讯新闻 |url=https://new.qq.com/rain/a/20210916A0ACTX00 |access-date=2024-03-03 |website=new.qq.com}}</ref> At 11:00 on 21 February 2022, the first section of Line 10 Phase I (Cuibai Road Station - Yisheng Road Station) opened for operation<ref>{{Cite web |title=今日11时,杭州地铁三线齐开!7号线、9号线、机场轨道快线(19号线)最新消息来了 |url=https://web.archive.org/web/20220531223723/http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzA3Nzg0ODUzMQ==&mid=2659190209&idx=1&sn=66b21072803a8a3bfbc16688de690c61&chksm=843f6f7db348e66b2994e98e4a1513c78cb1fc5ae95daea8258cf5033254be45b97131440270#rd |access-date=2024-03-03 |website=微信公众平台}}</ref>. At 14:00 on 22 September 2022, Line 19 opened for operation.<ref>{{Cite web |title=明日14时,杭州地铁19号线开通运营!3号线北延段、10号线黄龙体育中心站同步开通-杭州新闻中心-杭州网 |url=https://hznews.hangzhou.com.cn/chengshi/content/2022-09/21/content_8358431.htm |access-date=2024-03-03 |website=hznews.hangzhou.com.cn}}</ref> === Policy Drivers and Markets === The role of the policy is to promote the construction of metro lines, due to the rapid development of Hangzhou, the influx of foreign population, the traffic pressure will only get bigger and bigger, with reference to the Hong Kong Metro and the Shanghai Metro, the size and continuous construction of the state, Hangzhou Metro will also continue to build. Because of the nature of the Hangzhou metro, so there is no same type of transport to compete for the market, the larger the population base, the amount of travelling on the metro will also be more, the development of the Hangzhou metro market is full of potential. == Quantitative analysis of Hangzhou Metro == === Data Collection and Methodology === The life cycle can be modelled by an S-curve which is used to display data over some time. S-curves (status vs. time) allow us to determine the periods of birthing, growth, and maturity. Here, it is assumed that the data used for modelling takes on a logistic shape to seek a curve that best fits the data. In the current context, to analyze the life cycle of Hangzhou Metro, the operated kilometers by Hangzhou Metro are considered as the status and the consequent years as time to plot the S-curve. The required data was then collected from the annual reports published by Hangzhou Rail Transit over the years from 2013 to 2022. The life-cycle model can be represented by the following equation: S(t) = Smax/[1+exp(-b(t-ti)] Where: * S(t) is the status measure,  (Passenger-km traveled) t is time (usually in years), ti is the inflection time (year in which 1/2 Smax is achieved), Smax is saturation status level, which is the maximum passenger volume that was recorded in the data. b is a coefficient to be estimated.   === Results and Interpretations === [[File:Junzhe.jpg|center|thumb|figure 1 passenger volume]] The data over the years was used to plot the S-curve and the forecasted model was obtained as follows: {| class="wikitable" |+Hangzhou Metro !Time !Operating mileage (KM) !Passenger volume(10,000 visits) !Predicted passenger volume(10,000 visits) |- !2013 !44.97 !11680 !21040 |- |2014 |66.27 |14500 |24645 |- |2015 |81.52 |22300 |28842 |- |2016 |81.52 |26900 |33717 |- |2017 |107.02 |34000 |39368 |- |2018 |117.72 |53000 |45902 |- |2019 |135.36 |63000 |53431 |- |2020 |306 |58000 |62078 |- |2021 |342 |90000 |71970 |- |2022 |516 |96000 |83231 |}The parameters and the model derived from the regression analysis on the above data are as follows: * Final Market Size (S<sub>max</sub>) =7000(millions visits) * Slope (''b'') =0.169 * Inflection Time (t<sub>i</sub>) =2034.2 * R<sup>2</sup> =0.971 == References == 9bm55v3ft00w310qdt0egrcn7e3wa6f Guitar/Structure of the CAGED scale shapes 0 465876 4520909 4389147 2025-07-02T04:12:07Z Mjchael 44398 /* A II-V-I-Progression */ 'a' was missing 4520909 wikitext text/x-wiki {{:Guitar/ Navi|Lead Guitar|<br> {{:Guitar:_Lead Guitar/ Navi Major Patterns}}| img=Guitar 1.svg |bg=#F8f8f8|border=darkorange|color=dark|px=80|navi=Introduction to solo guitar}} {{:Guitar/under construction - in translation}} {{Wikibooks|b:de:Gitarre: Aufbau der CAGED-Skalenformen}} * [https://de-m-wikibooks-org.translate.goog/wiki/Gitarre:_Aufbau_der_CAGED-Skalenformen?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp Translated by Google] = Structure of the major and minor scales according to a slightly modified CAGED system = Hopefully you have read the previous [[Guitar/Major Patterns|introduction to the major scales]], where the upcoming lessons were already outlined. This course is about improvising melodically over simple songs set in major and natural minor keys. Here we want to learn the division of the fingerboard according to the CAGED system, which can be learned quickly, especially for beginners in the subject of 'improvisations in major and minor'. First we break down the major scale into manageable units, then we build each of the five CAGED scales from the individual parts == The 5 CAGED scales == We want to learn the following five scales in this course. [[Image:Scala Form C-major.svg|100px]] &nbsp; [[Image:Scala Bb-Typ.svg|100px]] &nbsp; [[Image:Scala G-Typ.svg|100px]] &nbsp; [[Image:Scala F-Typ.svg|100px]] &nbsp; [[Image:Scala D-Typ.svg|100px]] We assign the major scales to a barre chord, which is also the basic chord (tonic) of the scale. The sequence of the chord, pentatonic or major scale shapes of the same name ('shapes') follows a certain order, which can be easily remembered using the mnemonic "CAGED". [[Image:Crd Form C.svg|100px]] [[Image:Crd Form A Bb.svg|100px]] [[Image:Crd Form G.svg|100px]] [[Image:Crd Form E F.svg|100px]] [[Image:Crd Form D.svg|100px]] The barre chords can be easily derived from the basic chords. [[Image:Crd C.svg|100px]][[Image:Crd A.svg|100px]] [[Image:Crd G.svg|100px]] [[Image:Crd E.svg|100px]] [[Image:Crd D.svg|100px]] The only important thing for the CAGED system is the position of the fundamental tones in relation to the respective chord or scale. <div class="noprint"> ;Animation [[Image:Crd Grundtonschema ani.gif]] </div> You already know basic tones from your beginners' lessons. And you should already be familiar with the principle of chord shapes from the bare chords. The stupid thing about the mnemonic 'CAGED' is that it actually only works problem-free for major chords or major pentatonics. With minor, the mnemonic reaches its limits. And the mnemonic doesn't describe many of the connections that you learned about in the circle of fifths (e.g. when you took the [[b:d:Gitarre:_Akkorde_heraushören|{{red|(German)}} workshop on how to pick out chords]] ). So it may not really surprise you that here in the Wikibooks we have alternative names for the obviously missing shapes. If you know barre chords, and if you can do something with the phrase: "grasp the A major like an F barre on the 5th fret!" , you shouldn't have any problems with it. The names of the scales are derived from the following simple scales in the first frets: [[Image:Scala C-Am.svg|100px]] [[Image:Scala Bb-Gm.svg|100px]] [[Image:Scala G-Em.svg|100px]] [[Image:Scala F-Dm.svg|100px]] [[Image:Scala D-Hm.svg|100px]] All chords known from the simple keys mentioned above, bass lines and the like can largely be transferred to the corresponding 5 CAGED scales, almost as if the scale had been moved to a higher position using a capo. The double naming (or the modification of the CAGED system) is explained again in the corresponding lessons, or described as a summary in the chapter [[b:de:Gitarre: Formen-Systematik|{{red|(German)}} Form Systematics]]. = Orientation on the fretboard = To ensure that a scale doesn't just remain a dot image, you first need a landmark. A very good method is the intervals of the major scale. :[[File:Scala Griffbrett.svg]] * You determine the basic chord of the major scale (1). * Barré chords can help you to find the position of the root notes. * As soon as you know where the fundamental note is, move the scale on the fingerboard until the (1) is on the fundamental note. Then you can improvise to the piece using the major scale. * Think of it like this: Draw the fretboard on a piece of paper (landscape format). Put it in a clear sleeve. Draw the circles with the intervals on it using foil fonts. Now you can pull the sheet out until the (1) comes to rest on the required fundamental note. That's how we did it before the time when there wasn't an app for everything. Later you derive the natural minor scale from the major scale, in which the sixth (6) of the scale becomes the fundamental note. There are also some songs in which the second (2) or fifth (5) becomes the fundamental note. Then you don't play major or minor, but Doric (2) or Mixolydian (5). You do this in much the same way as a music reader. This first determines the major scale based on the accidentals and then the actual key or mode based on the chords and tones. How the intervals then behave relative to the new fundamental note (as demonstrated in the [[Guitar/Major_Patterns#Excursus%3A_Minor_scales_can_be_derived_from_the_major_scales|introduction to the major patterns for the minor key]]) does not have to be of interest to you for the time being. <!-- You already got a brief insight into the ballad diploma with the chord intervals. --> We'll take a closer look at the [[Guitar/7 modes with 3NPS|3-note per-string scales]]. It can wait until then. === Find the “square” === Take a closer look at the major scale. We ignore all colors and numbers here. Notice anything about the scale? :[[File:Major-Pattern only black.svg]] You should actually notice the notes that are a little closer together or that don't have an empty fret between them. Then you should notice that two of the slightly closer intervals are usually exactly on top of each other. To get a general idea of ​​how to memorize the scales, I recommend you look for the “square”. :[[Image:Scala Carree.svg]] More precisely, you are looking for the semitone steps in the scale. ;to repeat A semitone step is the pitch distance from one fret to the next;<br> and with a whole tone step there is still a fret in between, which is usually not fingered.<br> So pay attention to the distance between 3 and 4 and the distance between j7 and 1. [[Image:Octaaf0320w.JPG|thumb|right| There is no longer any other key between B and C and two E and F. ]] The semitone steps for the key of C major can be represented quite clearly on a piano keyboard. You should know the spacing of the semitone steps from the structure of a scale. There is no black key between the notes E and F and between the notes B and C (note that our B is called H in German and some other languages). There is no fret between the notes E/F and B/C on the guitar's fretboard. And the fundamental note C is one of the tones in semitones. The semitone steps are well arranged on the guitar board as a small "square" (square). You can find this very easily, even if the scale only consists of black dots, or someone has numbered it strangely (or relative to the chord root). Once you have found the "square", you can easily find the root note of the major scale. From your perspective as a guitar player, the "1" is always at the top right of the "square". As soon as the fundamental note (1) is found, the remaining intervals arise automatically. You can orientate yourself very well on the basic tones of the simple major and minor chords. Now it pays off that you know where the root notes are in the simple chords. You simply have to know these basic tone patterns by heart. But you don't need to know much more to clearly assign a scale to a chord shape . {{:Guitar/Chord shapes short definition}} ==Three fingerings== Two of the following three fingerings can be derived from the “square”. === 1st Fingering === :[[Image:C-Major-Scale_on_the_fretboard_first_fingering.svg]] The “square” is on the left in this fingering. {| !Fingering !width="30px"| !Intervals |- |[[Image:Scala ZM K.svg]] !width="30px"| |[[Image:Scala 71_2-34_5.svg]] |} {{Todo|1=reprint the fingering. Z=Index,M=Middle,R=Ring,K=Pinky}} Practice this on all string positions ;Note: The numbers here indicate the intervals of a major scale. The 7 is a major seventh. Unfortunately the software (Lilypond) cannot generate j7. <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=120\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 5-3-3;5-4-4;5-6-5; 6-3-7;6-4-1;6-6-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 4-3-3;4-4-4;4-6-5; 5-3-7;5-4-1;5-6-2; " } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 3-3-3;3-4-4;3-6-5; 4-3-7;4-4-1;4-6-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> {{clear}} ;Note! When switching between the G and B strings, the lower part of the fingering must be moved one fret to the right. (Why? Later!) Everything is back to normal between the B and E strings <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 2-4-3;2-5-4;2-7-5; 3-3-7;3-4-1;3-6-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% Abstandshalter %% " " \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 1-4-3;1-5-4;1-7-5; 2-4-7;2-5-1;2-7-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> {{clear}} The Roman 3 (III) or the Roman 4 (IV) are information for the frets. But which fret you start practicing on is completely up to you. Maybe first practice in a higher position (from the 5th fret) where the distance between the fingers is as comfortable as possible. Later you can practice in lower positions (1-5), where you have to spread your fingers a little more. Move up and down the individual notes and try to get the fingering into your fingers. No melody, no solo, no improvisation, no rhythm or anything else is required yet. ;For example <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="1st Fingering (E- / F-Form) in C major" subtitle="pure scale" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c' { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #7 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key c \major b,8 c d e f g f e d c b c d e f g f e d c b c d e f g f e d c b c <c g' c>1^\markup { \bold {(C5)} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> In the second step, you can try to always start and end your dubbing with the number 1. Note that you only practice the first fingering on 2 strings. No longer! Only on the second pass does the next pair of strings come on, and then the one after that. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="1st Fingering (Bb- / A-Form) in C major" subtitle="pure scale" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #2 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key c \major c8 d e f g f e d c b c d e f g f e d c b c d e f g f e d c b c4 <c g' c>1^\markup { \bold {(C5)} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> Then you can play around with the intervals. (e.g. skip every 2nd tone...) <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="1st Fingering (E- / F-Form) in C major" subtitle="towards C and G7 arpeggio" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c' { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #7 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key c \major c, e g e g f d b b d f g g e c e g f d b c e g e <c g' c>1^\markup { \bold {(C5)} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> The first attempts are not about replaying tablature, but simply about experimenting. We start playing small motifs after the first jingling around. === Exercises === The following exercises often contain a series of one or two bar sequences. A sequence is a motif that repeats itself at different pitches. There are also excerpts from classical pieces, folk songs, children's songs, etc. The simple structure or familiarity of the melodies should make practicing easier. This means you don't have to decipher every single note from the tablature, but your fingers find their position more easily in anticipation of the melody. ==== One bar sequences ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px;margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=120\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 5-7-3;5-8-4;5-10-5; 6-7-7;6-8-1;6-10-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> Note that the root note (1) is under the middle finger (i.e. on the second fret of this fingering). When doing your free improvisation in major, it's best to start with (1). You can find the fundamental note C here in the 8th fret on the E string under the middle finger. A power chord (e.g. C5) or a normal chord at the end is optional (i.e. optional). A chord like this calibrates your ear to the root note of the key you are currently playing. However, you have to think about how you get from the chord back to the fingering. This is sometimes easier, sometimes more difficult. Therefore, a chord is intended for later repetition. At the beginning, the basic note is sufficient as a conclusion. {{Tip| In the C major scale, not only learn the intervals<br> 3 4 - 5<br> j7 1 - 2<br> but also name each individual note.<br> EF - G<br> HC - D<br> This gives you a pretty simple overview of the fretboard. }} <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="1st Fingering (E- / F-Form) in C major" subtitle="One bar sequences" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c' { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #7 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key c \major g8 f e f g e f g f e d e f d e f e d c d e c d e d c b c d b c d <c g' c>1^\markup { \bold {(C5)} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> ==== Half-bar sequences ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 4-7-3;4-8-4;4-10-5; 5-7-7;5-8-1;5-10-2; " } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> This time you have half-measure sequences that are repeated once. Even without knowledge of music, you can follow the progression and repetitions of the sequences more easily using the sheet music than using the tablature; especially if you listen to the exercise at the same time. The optional power chord at the end stabilizes the fundamental tone again. You can find the fundamental note F in the 8th fret on the A string. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="1st Fingering (A- / Bb-Form) in F major" subtitle="Half-bar sequences" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #7 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key f \major f8 c' bes a g bes a g f a g f e g f e f1 f8 c' bes a g bes a g f a g f e g f e <f c' f>1^\markup { \bold {(F5)} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> ==== A bird wanted to get married ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin: 5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 3-7-3;3-8-4;3-10-5; 4-7-7;4-8-1;4-10-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> Here I found a relatively well-known German children's song that fits the 1st fingering perfectly. {{Todo|find the English translation for the song or another English examples}} The tone durations are difficult for those unfamiliar with notes to read. But if you know the piece or have listened to it several times, it is not an insurmountable difficulty. The root note Bb can be found in the 8th fret on the D string. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="1st Fingering (D-Form) in Bb major" subtitle="Ein Vogel wollte Hochzeit machen" subsubtitle="German children's song" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #7 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key bes \major r2. r8 d'8 | f8 d f d es c es c | d bes f' d c( f) f f16 d | \break bes8 8 8 f'16 d c8 c c f16 es | d8 bes c a bes4 r4 \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> ==== Half-bar sequences with changes of position ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin: 5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 2-5-3;2-6-4;2-8-5; 3-4-7;3-5-1;3-7-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> In the G shape there is a change of position between the G and B strings. You always have to come up with a strategy for when and how best to change positions. If you're lucky, you'll find a hint in the sheet music showing how you can change the position conveniently. I recommend that you use your middle finger where the 2 is above the notes. * (1 = index, 2 = middle, 3 = ring, 4 = pinky, 0 = open string) Consider such advice only as a suggestion, because there is no binding rule as to how the change of position should take place. If you practice the same sequences a few strings higher or lower, it becomes easier. By the way, you can practice every single exercise on all string positions. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="1st Fingering (G-Form) in C major" subtitle="Half-bar sequences with changes of position" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c' { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #4 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key c \major g'8 e f g f d e f e c-2 d e d b c d c1 g'8 e f g f d e f e c-2 d e d b c d <c g' c>1^\markup { \bold {(C5)} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> ==== warm-up (before singing) ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin: 5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% Abstandshalter %% " " \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 1-2-3;1-3-4;1-5-5; 2-2-7;2-3-1;2-5-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> Many people who have ever sung in a choir are familiar with these two motifs. Unfortunately, many songs do not correspond exactly in their range to one of the full three fingerings or the scales that follow later. Most of the time only excerpts from the patterns are needed. In the first motif, for example, the major seventh (j7) before the fundamental is missing. The second motif contains the major seventh (j7). The second motif calibrates the choir to the key required. Here only chord tones are played in an ascending or descending tone sequence (also called arpeggios). The A7 chord contains both the leading tone (j7), which leads to the root note (1), and the buttress tone (4), which moves towards the major third (3). With the two exciting tones that want to resolve to the basic chord, the choir is placed in the major key. Here I don't need to explain to you where the fundamental note D is. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="1st Fingering (C-Form) in D major" subtitle="warm-up (before singing)" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c' { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #2 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key d \major d8^\markup { \bold {D} } e fis g a g fis e | d1 d8 e fis g a g fis e | d1 \break d4^\markup { \bold {D} } fis8 a | g4^\markup { \bold {A7} } e8 cis | d1^\markup { \bold {D} } d4^\markup { \bold {D} } fis8 a | g4^\markup { \bold {A7} } e8 cis | \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #0 <d, a' d fis>1^\markup { \bold {D} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> === 2nd Fingering === :[[Image:C-Major-Scale_on_the_fretboard_second_fingering.svg]] The “square” is on the right in this fingering. {| !Fingering !width="30px"| !Intervals |- |[[Image:Scala Z_RK.svg]] !width="30px"| |[[Image:Scala 6_71-2_34.svg]] |} {{Todo|1=reprint the fingering. Z=Index,M=Middle,R=Ring,K=Pinky}} Practice this on all string positions too. <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 5-3-2;5-5-3;5-6-4; 6-3-6;6-5-7;6-6-1;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 4-3-2;4-5-3;4-6-4; 5-3-6;5-5-7;5-6-1;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 3-3-2;3-5-3;3-6-4; 4-3-6;4-5-7;4-6-1;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> {{clear}} ;Attention! For the 2nd fingering, the lower fingering must also be moved one fret to the right between the G and B strings. Again, everything is normal between the B and E strings! For the 2nd fingering, the lower fingering must also be moved one fret to the right between the G and B strings. Again, everything is normal between the B and E strings! <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 2-4-2;2-6-3;2-7-4; 3-3-6;3-5-7;3-6-1;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% Abstandshalter %% " " \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 1-4-2;1-6-3;1-7-4; 2-4-6;2-6-7;2-7-1;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> {{clear}} === Excursus: Switch between the G and B strings === Do you still remember tuning the guitar? :[[Image:Tuning ADGHE5 ADGHE0.svg]] {{Todo|Reprint! German H is English B}} You played almost all the strings at the 5th fret and tuned them as pure fourths. Therefore, all fingerings on the strings tuned in fourths look the same. You just went from the G to the B string on the 4th fret. That's a major third. Accordingly, the intervals between the two strings G and B always have one fewer fret, which means that the intervals on the B string slide one fret further to the right. {| |"Normal" intervals between strings tuned at the 5th fret !width="30px"| |"Slipped" intervals between the G and B strings |- |[[Image:Scala_6_71_2-2_34_5.svg]]<br /><small>(Ausschnitt)</small> !width="30px"| |[[Image:Scala 6 71 2-2 34 5 GB.svg]] |} <small>Here is a little anticipation of a later lesson. We need this “module” to slide from one scale shape to the next one. .<span class="noprint">(note the animation above)</span>.</small> ==== Rondeau (excerpt) ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 5-5-2;5-7-3;5-8-4; 6-5-6;6-7-7;6-8-1;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> The one-bar sequence was taken from a Rondeau by JS Bach that you can repeat as desired. You can find the root note C again in the 8th fret on the E string; this time under the pinky. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="2nd Fingering (G-Form) in C major" subtitle="Rondeau (excerpt)" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #5 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key c \major \repeat volta 2 { e8 d e f e d c e d c d e d c b d c b c d c b a c b a b c d b c d } <c e g c>1^\markup { \bold {(C)} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> {{Tip|Leave your fingers there for as long as possible. Leave the index finger as the middle finger and little finger follow. If you take the little finger away again, the middle finger is already in place. If you remove the middle finger, the index finger is already in place.}} {{Tip|In the C major scale, not only learn the intervals<br> 1 - 3 4<br> 6 - j7 1<br> but also name each individual note.<br> D - EF<br> A - BC<br> This gives you a pretty simple overview of the fretboard.}} ==== "The ugly duckling" or "All my ducklings" <ref>Allusion to a fairy tale by the Brothers Grimm along with a well-known German children's song.</ref> in minor ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 4-5-2;4-7-3;4-8-4; 5-5-6;5-7-7;5-8-1;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> The previous exercise was in major, and here we use the same fingering in minor. As you can see and hear, a fingering or a pattern cannot be clearly assigned to a single key. The final note or the final chord (here the note D or the chord Dm) determines the key. The keynote D here is the sixth (6) of the underlying major pattern. It can be easily derived from the tuning tone in the 5th fret of the A string. If there are two note stems above a number in a tablature, this is a sign of a half note that lasts two beats. Since this looks very unusual for many guitarists, bar lines in the tablature are often omitted. In this case, the duration of the tone can be determined solely from the note values. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="2. Fingersatz (Am-Form) in Dm" subtitle="Das häßliche Entlein" subsubtitle="oder: Alle meine Entchen in Moll" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #5 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key d \minor d4 e f g a2 2 bes4 4 4 4 a1 bes4 4 4 4 a1 g4 4 4 4 f2 2 e4 4 4 4 d1 \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> ==== The Vltava (main motif) ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 3-2-2;3-4-3;3-5-4; 4-2-6;4-4-7;4-5-1;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> The sequence of tones (more precisely the intervals) of the following exercise is almost exactly the same as the previous one, just at a different tone level. But with the different rhythm it is very similar to the main motif of the composition "The Vltava" by Bedrich Smetana (without an upbeat and rhythmically simplified). Even if it only goes up and down the minor scale (as in the 7th exercise), you will hopefully notice how much the beat and rhythm make a difference to the effect. If you later think that your improvisations sound boring, then you should focus more on rhythm. You can also work a little with batting patterns. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="2nd (Dm-Form) in Em" subtitle="The Vltava (main motif)" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #2 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key e \minor e4 fis8 g4 a8 b4. b4. c4. c4. b2. a4. a4. g4 a8 g4. fis4. fis4. e2. \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 6/8 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> ==== Sasha (simplified) ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 2-3-2;2-5-3;2-6-4; 3-2-6;3-4-7;3-5-1;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> The song "Sascha" is played here on the G and B strings. We have to come up with strategies as to which fingering we use best for changing positions. {{Todo|find the translation of the English version of Sasha (I guess Russian Folksong}} <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="2nd Fingering (Em-Form) in Am" subtitle="Sasha (simplified)" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c' { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #2 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key c \major \repeat volta 2 { e8-4 e e c-3 e e e c | b d-3 c-4 b c a a a | } \repeat volta 2 { f'-4 f f r e e e r | e d c-4 b a a a r | } \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #5 <c e a>1^\markup { \bold {(Am)} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 60 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> The melody is easier to play on the other string positions. ==== Asturias (detail) ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 1-5-2;1-7-3;1-8-4; 2-5-6;2-7-7;2-8-1;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> The whole piece of Asturias is a masterpiece. But you might be happy to know that it won't be long before you can at least do a little demonstration of the first few bars of the piece. This is just a preliminary exercise. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="2nd Fingering (D major resp. Bm-Form) in Em" subtitle="Asturias (detail)" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #5 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key e \minor \repeat volta 2 \relative c'{ e8 b' c a b g | e8 b' c a b g | e8 b' c a b g | a fis g a fis g^\markup {2x} | } \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #0 <e, b, e g b e'>2.^\markup { \bold {(Em)} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 6/8 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> === 1st Fingering comes above the 2nd Fingering=== The second fingering always follows immediately below the first fingering. (Of course only if there are other strings above this fingering.) I'll explain later how the scale names come about. Suffice to say, it has something to do with the position of the fundamental note (1). <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;F-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=120\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 3-3-2;3-5-3;3-6-4; 4-3-6;4-5-7;4-6-1; 5-3-3;5-4-4;5-6-5; 6-3-7;6-4-1;6-6-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;Bb-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 2-4-2;2-6-3;2-7-4; 3-3-6;3-5-7;3-6-1; 4-3-3;4-4-4;4-6-5; 5-3-7;5-4-1;5-6-2; " } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;D-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 1-4-2;1-6-3;1-7-4; 2-4-6;2-6-2;2-7-1; 3-3-3;3-4-4;3-6-5; 4-3-7;4-4-1;4-6-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> {{clear}} As you can see, the first fingering with the "square" on the right always comes first, and then comes the fingering with the "square" on the left. They are always one above the other. ==== Burlesque ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;F-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=120\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 3-3-2;3-5-3;3-6-4; 4-3-6;4-5-7;4-6-1; 5-3-3;5-4-4;5-6-5; 6-3-7;6-4-1;6-6-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="1. & 2. Fingersatz (F-Form) in G-Dur" subtitle="Bourlesque" composer = "based on Leopold Mozart" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #2 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key g \major \partial 2 g8 a b c d4 8 b e4 8 c | d2 \breathe c4 8 a | b4 8 g a4 8 fis| g2 \breathe g8 a b c d4 8 b e4 8 c | d2 \breathe c4 8 a | b4 8 g a4 8 fis| g2 \breathe c'4 8 a | b4 8 g a4 8 fis| g2 \breathe c4 8 a | b4 8 g a4 8 fis| g2 \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \addlyrics { "3" "+" "4" "+" "1" "2" "+" "3" "4" "+" "1" "3" "4" "+" "1" "2" "+" "3" "4" "+" "1"} \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> Only between the G and B strings does a position change one fret to the left. Otherwise the three fingerings are the same. So far you have nothing more to learn than two fingerings, that the first comes before the second, and that there is a change of position between the G and B strings. You must take this change of position into account in all future scales. <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;G-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 1-4-6;1-6-7;1-7-1; 2-4-3;2-5-4;2-7-5; 3-3-7;3-4-1;3-6-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;C-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% Abstandshalter %% " " \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 4-3-3;4-4-4;4-6-5; 5-3-7;5-4-1;5-6-2; 6-3-2;6-5-3;6-6-4; " } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> {{clear}} Of course, half of the first or second fingering is missing if it doesn't go any further up or down. As you might already suspect, you already have 5 excerpts from the five scales that we will take a closer look at. With the 1st and 2nd fingering and the change of position you have already grasped a large part of the CAGED scales. Later in your repertoire you will only need excerpts from each of the 5 CAGED scales. There are extremely few pieces that have exactly the tone range of a competent CAGED scale or that of one of the 3 fingerings. That's why I don't have attractive exercise examples ready for all scales and scale sections, but I sometimes have to offer you some dry exercises. Hopefully you already have a vague idea of ​​why it's worth learning the scales in their entirety. === 3th Fingering === Does not contain a “square” {| !Fingering !width="30px"| !Intervals |- |[[Image:Scala Z RK-Z K-ZM K.svg]] !width="30px"| |[[Image:Scala 2 34-5 6-71 2.svg]] |} {{Todo|reprint fingering}} This fingering is not an independent fingering at all. The upper part of the 3rd fingering is actually the lower part of the 2nd fingering. Likewise, the lower part of the 3rd fingering is also the beginning of the 1st fingering. What is important about this fingering is the transition between the end of the 2nd fingering through the 5 and 6 to the 1st fingering. During the third fingering there is a change of position to the left. Here it is important to pay particular attention to the position of the fingers. Especially if you don't just play the scale up and down (which you most likely practice at the beginning), this "5-6 transition" always requires a lot of thought until you know how to place your fingers most skillfully. Practice fingering on the top string position and one string position lower! <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;D-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 4-2-7;4-3-1;4-5-2; 5-3-5;5-5-6; 6-3-2;6-5-3;6-6-4;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;G-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 3-2-7;3-3-1;3-5-2; 4-3-5;4-5-6; 5-3-2;5-5-3;5-6-4;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> {{clear}} ;Note! If you slide one string position lower with the 3rd fingering, then we have to take into account the change in position between the G and B strings again. We have just learned that the third fingering involves a change of position to the left. The transition between the G and B strings also results in a change of position to the right. So one change in position is canceled out by the other. Fingering is ultimately made easier by eliminating position changes, but at the beginning you have to think a little more about how the individual position changes affect the third fingering. <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;C-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 2-3-7;2-4-1;2-6-2; 3-3-5;3-5-6; 4-3-2;4-5-3;4-6-4;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;F-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 1-3-7;1-4-1;1-6-2; 2-4-5;2-6-6; 3-3-2;3-5-3;3-6-4;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> {{clear}} You always have to take the matter of the change of position during the 3rd fingering and the change of position between the G and B strings into account. This may sound a bit complicated when you first read it, but it reduces the entire structure of the five main major scales to 4 building blocks. The 1st to 3rd fingering and the change in position between the G and B strings. But that's all you need to know about the formal structure. <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;Bb-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 1-4-5;1-6-6; 2-4-2;2-6-3;2-7-4; 5-3-7;5-4-1;5-6-2; 6-4-5;6-6-6; " } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> {{clear}} In der Bb-Form geht der 3. Fingersatz natürlich nicht weiter als bis zur E-Saite. ==== A II-V-I-Progression ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;D-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 4-4-7;4-5-1;4-7-2; 5-5-5;5-7-6; 6-5-2;6-7-3;6-8-4;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> A simple tone sequence over a 2-5-1 progression. The chord tones are mostly on the heavy beats (on beats!?). * A, C, E, G belong to Am7 * F#, D, C, A belong to the D7 * B, D, G belong to the G major chord. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="3th Fingering (D-Form) in G major" subtitle="A II-V-I-Progression" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #4 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key g \major a8^\markup { \bold {Am7} } b c d e fis g4 | fis8^\markup { \bold {D7} } e d4 c8 b a4 | b8^\markup { \bold {G} } c d4 e8 fis g a| g fis g2. | a,8^\markup { \bold {Am7} } b c d e fis g4 | fis8^\markup { \bold {D7} } e d4 c8 b a4 | b8^\markup { \bold {G} } c d4 e8 fis g a| g fis g2. | \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> ==== A II-V-I-Progression (arpeggios) ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;G-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 3-4-7;3-5-1;3-7-2; 4-5-5;4-7-6; 5-5-2;5-7-3;5-8-4;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> Here are simple arpeggios (harp-like chord tones) of a 2-5-1 progression. The basic harmonic structure becomes clearer if you only play the chord tones. Arpeggios (chord breaks) are more demanding exercises because you have to be familiar with the scale in order to find the chord tones. The three fingerings are not as easy to discover in arpeggios as in more melodic exercises. If an exercise is too difficult for you, postpone it until a later repetition. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="3th Fingering (G-Form) in C major" subtitle="A II-V-I-Progression (arpeggios)" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #4 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key c \major d4^\markup { \bold {Dm} } f a d | b^\markup { \bold {G7} } g f d | e^\markup { \bold {C} } g c2~ | c1 | d,4^\markup { \bold {Dm} } f a d | b^\markup { \bold {G7} } g f d | e^\markup { \bold {C} } g c2~ | c1 \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> ==== A Doric melody ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;C-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 2-2-7;2-3-1;2-5-2; 3-2-5;3-4-6; 4-2-2;4-4-3;4-5-4;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> The transition between the G and B strings cancels out the change in position of the third fingering, which simplifies the fingering. Instead of taking a long and laborious process to determine the intervals of the Dorian scale, we proceed as with the minor scale. With the Dorian scale we simply set the root note to (2) of the major pattern. You should have no problem finding the root note E. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="3th Fingering (C-Form) in G major" subtitle="A Doric melody" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #2 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key e \dorian e4 b'8 a b2 | b8 cis d4 e8 d cis4 | b8 a b4 e,2 | e8 fis g4 a8 g fis4 | g8 fis e2. | e4 b'8 a b2 | b8 cis d4 e8 d cis4 | b8 a b4 e,2 | e8 fis g4 a8 g fis4 | g8 fis e2. \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> ==== A Mixolydian melody ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;F-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 1-2-7;1-3-1;1-5-2; 2-3-5;2-5-6; 3-2-2;3-4-3;3-5-4;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> Here too, the two changes in position at the transition between the G and B strings cancel out with the change in position in the third fingering, which simplifies the fingering here too. This key is Mixolydian, because the root note is the fifth (5) of the major pattern, which again shows that the pure fingering says nothing about the mode. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="3th Fingering (F-Form) in D-Mixolydian" subtitle="A Mixolydian melody" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c' { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #2 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key d \mixolydian a8 d d c d2~ | d4 fis g a | g8 e e c-3 a2~-1 | a4 b c d | \break a8 d d c d2~ | d4 fis g a | g8 e e c-3 a2~-1 | a4 a b c | \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##f < d, a' d fis>1^\markup { \bold {D} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> The notes A and D together form a power chord (reversal of D and A). D and A form the frame interval of the D major chord. (D+F#+A). More important than the starting note of a melody is the ending note, and the fact that you perceive the note D or the chord D major as the tonal center. {{Tip|1= Although the scales <span class="noprint">in the navigation above </span>are presented in CAGED order, I recommend starting the lessons with the D/Bm and G/Em forms, where the 3rd fingering is complete and the position changes do not cancel each other out . <span class="noprint">It's best to use the navigation at the foot of the page. </span>How the position changes of the 3rd fingering cancel each other out with the transition of the G and B strings is best learned in the 2nd step.}} {{Todo|adjust navigation}} == 1 over 2 over 3 over 1... == If you were to spin the system further, you would get the following: <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin-right:20px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1;w:12; 1-1-2;1-3-3;1-4-4; 2-1-6;2-3-7;2-4-1; 3-1-3;3-2-4;3-4-6; 4-1-7;4-2-1;4-4-2; 5-2-5;5-4-6; 6-2-2;6-4-3;6-5-4; 7-2-6;7-4-7;7-5-1; 8-2-3;8-3-4;8-5-6; 9-2-7;9-3-1;9-5-2; 10-3-5;10-5-6; 11-3-2;11-5-3;11-6-4; 12-3-6;12-5-7;12-6-1; " } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> * Second fingering * First fingering * Third fingering * Second fingering * First fingering * Third fingering * Second fingering {{clear}} Of course, there is no 12-string guitar where each string is tuned to fourths, but this is a good exercise that you should do with the help of a piece of paper and a pencil. In principle, you will find all of the major scales of the guitar here (if you only pick 6 neighboring strings). There's just the catch with the transition between the G and B strings. The 3 fingerings always follow one another in a specific order. * 1st fingering is above the 2nd fingering * the 3rd fingering connects the lower end of the 2nd fingering with the upper end of the first fingering. * Between the G and B strings, everything shifts one fret to the right. That's all you need to know for the 5 main scales. 3 fingerings that always meet in a certain order and change positions between G and B. With this you will now work out one scale shape after the other. You will see that you will soon have the 5 main types in there. ;Final note And before you ask yourself: In addition to the 5 main forms of the CAGED system, there are a few minor types known as 3-notes-per-string scales and Berkelee scales, and others such as the pentatonic and the blues scales. Scala. But we'll save all of those for later. Don't rush anything! Now it's the turn of the CAGED scales. Each of the following five CAGED scales actually consists of just the three fingerings learned above! <div class="noprint">As a cheat for a quick overview: [[File:Gitarre_Haupt-Skalen-Akkkorde-Pentatoniken.pdf]]</div> == Summary == # As soon as you have found the "square", # It's very easy to get into the 1st and 2nd fingerings. # With each of these fingerings, the keynote of the scale (and with a little practice all other intervals as well) can be determined very easily. # The 1st fingering is above the 2nd fingering. # The 1st and 2nd fingerings are connected by the 3rd fingering. # The third fingering usually involves a change of position to the left. # There is a change of position to the right between the G and H sides. # The position changes of the 3rd fingering and the position changes of the GH string transition can cancel each other out, making fingering easier. {{Tip|After you have done all the exercises on this page, you can try playing each individual exercise on each string position as a repetition. You can even try learning the note names on the fretboard, as demonstrated in the next lesson.}} {{Todo|To be continued. Please be patient.}} <noinclude> {{:Vorlage:Navigation hoch}} {{Navigation zurückhochvor |zurücklink=Gitarre: Die Major-Patterns |zurücktext=Einführung: Major-Patterns |hochlink=#top |hochtext=Zum Seitenanfang |vorlink=Gitarre: Lerne CAGED-Stammtöne |vortext=Lerne CAGED-Stammtöne }} </noinclude> nlyusx3zs94ljpx4uzcagke6nu7qcbe 4520910 4520909 2025-07-02T04:34:34Z Mjchael 44398 /* 2nd Fingering */ translation 4520910 wikitext text/x-wiki {{:Guitar/ Navi|Lead Guitar|<br> {{:Guitar:_Lead Guitar/ Navi Major Patterns}}| img=Guitar 1.svg |bg=#F8f8f8|border=darkorange|color=dark|px=80|navi=Introduction to solo guitar}} {{:Guitar/under construction - in translation}} {{Wikibooks|b:de:Gitarre: Aufbau der CAGED-Skalenformen}} * [https://de-m-wikibooks-org.translate.goog/wiki/Gitarre:_Aufbau_der_CAGED-Skalenformen?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp Translated by Google] = Structure of the major and minor scales according to a slightly modified CAGED system = Hopefully you have read the previous [[Guitar/Major Patterns|introduction to the major scales]], where the upcoming lessons were already outlined. This course is about improvising melodically over simple songs set in major and natural minor keys. Here we want to learn the division of the fingerboard according to the CAGED system, which can be learned quickly, especially for beginners in the subject of 'improvisations in major and minor'. First we break down the major scale into manageable units, then we build each of the five CAGED scales from the individual parts == The 5 CAGED scales == We want to learn the following five scales in this course. [[Image:Scala Form C-major.svg|100px]] &nbsp; [[Image:Scala Bb-Typ.svg|100px]] &nbsp; [[Image:Scala G-Typ.svg|100px]] &nbsp; [[Image:Scala F-Typ.svg|100px]] &nbsp; [[Image:Scala D-Typ.svg|100px]] We assign the major scales to a barre chord, which is also the basic chord (tonic) of the scale. The sequence of the chord, pentatonic or major scale shapes of the same name ('shapes') follows a certain order, which can be easily remembered using the mnemonic "CAGED". [[Image:Crd Form C.svg|100px]] [[Image:Crd Form A Bb.svg|100px]] [[Image:Crd Form G.svg|100px]] [[Image:Crd Form E F.svg|100px]] [[Image:Crd Form D.svg|100px]] The barre chords can be easily derived from the basic chords. [[Image:Crd C.svg|100px]][[Image:Crd A.svg|100px]] [[Image:Crd G.svg|100px]] [[Image:Crd E.svg|100px]] [[Image:Crd D.svg|100px]] The only important thing for the CAGED system is the position of the fundamental tones in relation to the respective chord or scale. <div class="noprint"> ;Animation [[Image:Crd Grundtonschema ani.gif]] </div> You already know basic tones from your beginners' lessons. And you should already be familiar with the principle of chord shapes from the bare chords. The stupid thing about the mnemonic 'CAGED' is that it actually only works problem-free for major chords or major pentatonics. With minor, the mnemonic reaches its limits. And the mnemonic doesn't describe many of the connections that you learned about in the circle of fifths (e.g. when you took the [[b:d:Gitarre:_Akkorde_heraushören|{{red|(German)}} workshop on how to pick out chords]] ). So it may not really surprise you that here in the Wikibooks we have alternative names for the obviously missing shapes. If you know barre chords, and if you can do something with the phrase: "grasp the A major like an F barre on the 5th fret!" , you shouldn't have any problems with it. The names of the scales are derived from the following simple scales in the first frets: [[Image:Scala C-Am.svg|100px]] [[Image:Scala Bb-Gm.svg|100px]] [[Image:Scala G-Em.svg|100px]] [[Image:Scala F-Dm.svg|100px]] [[Image:Scala D-Hm.svg|100px]] All chords known from the simple keys mentioned above, bass lines and the like can largely be transferred to the corresponding 5 CAGED scales, almost as if the scale had been moved to a higher position using a capo. The double naming (or the modification of the CAGED system) is explained again in the corresponding lessons, or described as a summary in the chapter [[b:de:Gitarre: Formen-Systematik|{{red|(German)}} Form Systematics]]. = Orientation on the fretboard = To ensure that a scale doesn't just remain a dot image, you first need a landmark. A very good method is the intervals of the major scale. :[[File:Scala Griffbrett.svg]] * You determine the basic chord of the major scale (1). * Barré chords can help you to find the position of the root notes. * As soon as you know where the fundamental note is, move the scale on the fingerboard until the (1) is on the fundamental note. Then you can improvise to the piece using the major scale. * Think of it like this: Draw the fretboard on a piece of paper (landscape format). Put it in a clear sleeve. Draw the circles with the intervals on it using foil fonts. Now you can pull the sheet out until the (1) comes to rest on the required fundamental note. That's how we did it before the time when there wasn't an app for everything. Later you derive the natural minor scale from the major scale, in which the sixth (6) of the scale becomes the fundamental note. There are also some songs in which the second (2) or fifth (5) becomes the fundamental note. Then you don't play major or minor, but Doric (2) or Mixolydian (5). You do this in much the same way as a music reader. This first determines the major scale based on the accidentals and then the actual key or mode based on the chords and tones. How the intervals then behave relative to the new fundamental note (as demonstrated in the [[Guitar/Major_Patterns#Excursus%3A_Minor_scales_can_be_derived_from_the_major_scales|introduction to the major patterns for the minor key]]) does not have to be of interest to you for the time being. <!-- You already got a brief insight into the ballad diploma with the chord intervals. --> We'll take a closer look at the [[Guitar/7 modes with 3NPS|3-note per-string scales]]. It can wait until then. === Find the “square” === Take a closer look at the major scale. We ignore all colors and numbers here. Notice anything about the scale? :[[File:Major-Pattern only black.svg]] You should actually notice the notes that are a little closer together or that don't have an empty fret between them. Then you should notice that two of the slightly closer intervals are usually exactly on top of each other. To get a general idea of ​​how to memorize the scales, I recommend you look for the “square”. :[[Image:Scala Carree.svg]] More precisely, you are looking for the semitone steps in the scale. ;to repeat A semitone step is the pitch distance from one fret to the next;<br> and with a whole tone step there is still a fret in between, which is usually not fingered.<br> So pay attention to the distance between 3 and 4 and the distance between j7 and 1. [[Image:Octaaf0320w.JPG|thumb|right| There is no longer any other key between B and C and two E and F. ]] The semitone steps for the key of C major can be represented quite clearly on a piano keyboard. You should know the spacing of the semitone steps from the structure of a scale. There is no black key between the notes E and F and between the notes B and C (note that our B is called H in German and some other languages). There is no fret between the notes E/F and B/C on the guitar's fretboard. And the fundamental note C is one of the tones in semitones. The semitone steps are well arranged on the guitar board as a small "square" (square). You can find this very easily, even if the scale only consists of black dots, or someone has numbered it strangely (or relative to the chord root). Once you have found the "square", you can easily find the root note of the major scale. From your perspective as a guitar player, the "1" is always at the top right of the "square". As soon as the fundamental note (1) is found, the remaining intervals arise automatically. You can orientate yourself very well on the basic tones of the simple major and minor chords. Now it pays off that you know where the root notes are in the simple chords. You simply have to know these basic tone patterns by heart. But you don't need to know much more to clearly assign a scale to a chord shape . {{:Guitar/Chord shapes short definition}} ==Three fingerings== Two of the following three fingerings can be derived from the “square”. === 1st Fingering === :[[Image:C-Major-Scale_on_the_fretboard_first_fingering.svg]] The “square” is on the left in this fingering. {| !Fingering !width="30px"| !Intervals |- |[[Image:Scala ZM K.svg]] !width="30px"| |[[Image:Scala 71_2-34_5.svg]] |} {{Todo|1=reprint the fingering. Z=Index,M=Middle,R=Ring,K=Pinky}} Practice this on all string positions ;Note: The numbers here indicate the intervals of a major scale. The 7 is a major seventh. Unfortunately the software (Lilypond) cannot generate j7. <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=120\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 5-3-3;5-4-4;5-6-5; 6-3-7;6-4-1;6-6-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 4-3-3;4-4-4;4-6-5; 5-3-7;5-4-1;5-6-2; " } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 3-3-3;3-4-4;3-6-5; 4-3-7;4-4-1;4-6-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> {{clear}} ;Note! When switching between the G and B strings, the lower part of the fingering must be moved one fret to the right. (Why? Later!) Everything is back to normal between the B and E strings <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 2-4-3;2-5-4;2-7-5; 3-3-7;3-4-1;3-6-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% Abstandshalter %% " " \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 1-4-3;1-5-4;1-7-5; 2-4-7;2-5-1;2-7-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> {{clear}} The Roman 3 (III) or the Roman 4 (IV) are information for the frets. But which fret you start practicing on is completely up to you. Maybe first practice in a higher position (from the 5th fret) where the distance between the fingers is as comfortable as possible. Later you can practice in lower positions (1-5), where you have to spread your fingers a little more. Move up and down the individual notes and try to get the fingering into your fingers. No melody, no solo, no improvisation, no rhythm or anything else is required yet. ;For example <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="1st Fingering (E- / F-Form) in C major" subtitle="pure scale" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c' { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #7 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key c \major b,8 c d e f g f e d c b c d e f g f e d c b c d e f g f e d c b c <c g' c>1^\markup { \bold {(C5)} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> In the second step, you can try to always start and end your dubbing with the number 1. Note that you only practice the first fingering on 2 strings. No longer! Only on the second pass does the next pair of strings come on, and then the one after that. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="1st Fingering (Bb- / A-Form) in C major" subtitle="pure scale" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #2 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key c \major c8 d e f g f e d c b c d e f g f e d c b c d e f g f e d c b c4 <c g' c>1^\markup { \bold {(C5)} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> Then you can play around with the intervals. (e.g. skip every 2nd tone...) <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="1st Fingering (E- / F-Form) in C major" subtitle="towards C and G7 arpeggio" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c' { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #7 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key c \major c, e g e g f d b b d f g g e c e g f d b c e g e <c g' c>1^\markup { \bold {(C5)} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> The first attempts are not about replaying tablature, but simply about experimenting. We start playing small motifs after the first jingling around. === Exercises === The following exercises often contain a series of one or two bar sequences. A sequence is a motif that repeats itself at different pitches. There are also excerpts from classical pieces, folk songs, children's songs, etc. The simple structure or familiarity of the melodies should make practicing easier. This means you don't have to decipher every single note from the tablature, but your fingers find their position more easily in anticipation of the melody. ==== One bar sequences ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px;margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=120\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 5-7-3;5-8-4;5-10-5; 6-7-7;6-8-1;6-10-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> Note that the root note (1) is under the middle finger (i.e. on the second fret of this fingering). When doing your free improvisation in major, it's best to start with (1). You can find the fundamental note C here in the 8th fret on the E string under the middle finger. A power chord (e.g. C5) or a normal chord at the end is optional (i.e. optional). A chord like this calibrates your ear to the root note of the key you are currently playing. However, you have to think about how you get from the chord back to the fingering. This is sometimes easier, sometimes more difficult. Therefore, a chord is intended for later repetition. At the beginning, the basic note is sufficient as a conclusion. {{Tip| In the C major scale, not only learn the intervals<br> 3 4 - 5<br> j7 1 - 2<br> but also name each individual note.<br> EF - G<br> HC - D<br> This gives you a pretty simple overview of the fretboard. }} <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="1st Fingering (E- / F-Form) in C major" subtitle="One bar sequences" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c' { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #7 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key c \major g8 f e f g e f g f e d e f d e f e d c d e c d e d c b c d b c d <c g' c>1^\markup { \bold {(C5)} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> ==== Half-bar sequences ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 4-7-3;4-8-4;4-10-5; 5-7-7;5-8-1;5-10-2; " } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> This time you have half-measure sequences that are repeated once. Even without knowledge of music, you can follow the progression and repetitions of the sequences more easily using the sheet music than using the tablature; especially if you listen to the exercise at the same time. The optional power chord at the end stabilizes the fundamental tone again. You can find the fundamental note F in the 8th fret on the A string. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="1st Fingering (A- / Bb-Form) in F major" subtitle="Half-bar sequences" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #7 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key f \major f8 c' bes a g bes a g f a g f e g f e f1 f8 c' bes a g bes a g f a g f e g f e <f c' f>1^\markup { \bold {(F5)} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> ==== A bird wanted to get married ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin: 5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 3-7-3;3-8-4;3-10-5; 4-7-7;4-8-1;4-10-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> Here I found a relatively well-known German children's song that fits the 1st fingering perfectly. {{Todo|find the English translation for the song or another English examples}} The tone durations are difficult for those unfamiliar with notes to read. But if you know the piece or have listened to it several times, it is not an insurmountable difficulty. The root note Bb can be found in the 8th fret on the D string. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="1st Fingering (D-Form) in Bb major" subtitle="Ein Vogel wollte Hochzeit machen" subsubtitle="German children's song" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #7 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key bes \major r2. r8 d'8 | f8 d f d es c es c | d bes f' d c( f) f f16 d | \break bes8 8 8 f'16 d c8 c c f16 es | d8 bes c a bes4 r4 \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> ==== Half-bar sequences with changes of position ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin: 5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 2-5-3;2-6-4;2-8-5; 3-4-7;3-5-1;3-7-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> In the G shape there is a change of position between the G and B strings. You always have to come up with a strategy for when and how best to change positions. If you're lucky, you'll find a hint in the sheet music showing how you can change the position conveniently. I recommend that you use your middle finger where the 2 is above the notes. * (1 = index, 2 = middle, 3 = ring, 4 = pinky, 0 = open string) Consider such advice only as a suggestion, because there is no binding rule as to how the change of position should take place. If you practice the same sequences a few strings higher or lower, it becomes easier. By the way, you can practice every single exercise on all string positions. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="1st Fingering (G-Form) in C major" subtitle="Half-bar sequences with changes of position" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c' { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #4 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key c \major g'8 e f g f d e f e c-2 d e d b c d c1 g'8 e f g f d e f e c-2 d e d b c d <c g' c>1^\markup { \bold {(C5)} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> ==== warm-up (before singing) ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin: 5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% Abstandshalter %% " " \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 1-2-3;1-3-4;1-5-5; 2-2-7;2-3-1;2-5-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> Many people who have ever sung in a choir are familiar with these two motifs. Unfortunately, many songs do not correspond exactly in their range to one of the full three fingerings or the scales that follow later. Most of the time only excerpts from the patterns are needed. In the first motif, for example, the major seventh (j7) before the fundamental is missing. The second motif contains the major seventh (j7). The second motif calibrates the choir to the key required. Here only chord tones are played in an ascending or descending tone sequence (also called arpeggios). The A7 chord contains both the leading tone (j7), which leads to the root note (1), and the buttress tone (4), which moves towards the major third (3). With the two exciting tones that want to resolve to the basic chord, the choir is placed in the major key. Here I don't need to explain to you where the fundamental note D is. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="1st Fingering (C-Form) in D major" subtitle="warm-up (before singing)" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c' { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #2 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key d \major d8^\markup { \bold {D} } e fis g a g fis e | d1 d8 e fis g a g fis e | d1 \break d4^\markup { \bold {D} } fis8 a | g4^\markup { \bold {A7} } e8 cis | d1^\markup { \bold {D} } d4^\markup { \bold {D} } fis8 a | g4^\markup { \bold {A7} } e8 cis | \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #0 <d, a' d fis>1^\markup { \bold {D} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> === 2nd Fingering === :[[Image:C-Major-Scale_on_the_fretboard_second_fingering.svg]] The “square” is on the right in this fingering. {| !Fingering !width="30px"| !Intervals |- |[[Image:Scala Z_RK.svg]] !width="30px"| |[[Image:Scala 6_71-2_34.svg]] |} {{Todo|1=reprint the fingering. * Z=Zeigefinger (pointer finger) * M=Mittelfinger (middle finger) * R=Ringfinger (ring finger) * K=kleiner Finger (little finger / pinky) }} Practice this on all string positions too. <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 5-3-2;5-5-3;5-6-4; 6-3-6;6-5-7;6-6-1;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 4-3-2;4-5-3;4-6-4; 5-3-6;5-5-7;5-6-1;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 3-3-2;3-5-3;3-6-4; 4-3-6;4-5-7;4-6-1;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> {{clear}} ;Attention! For the 2nd fingering, the lower fingering must also be moved one fret to the right between the G and B strings. Again, everything is normal between the B and E strings! For the 2nd fingering, the lower fingering must also be moved one fret to the right between the G and B strings. Again, everything is normal between the B and E strings! <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 2-4-2;2-6-3;2-7-4; 3-3-6;3-5-7;3-6-1;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% Abstandshalter %% " " \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 1-4-2;1-6-3;1-7-4; 2-4-6;2-6-7;2-7-1;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> {{clear}} === Excursus: Switch between the G and B strings === Do you still remember tuning the guitar? :[[Image:Tuning ADGHE5 ADGHE0.svg]] {{Todo|Reprint! German H is English B}} You played almost all the strings at the 5th fret and tuned them as pure fourths. Therefore, all fingerings on the strings tuned in fourths look the same. You just went from the G to the B string on the 4th fret. That's a major third. Accordingly, the intervals between the two strings G and B always have one fewer fret, which means that the intervals on the B string slide one fret further to the right. {| |"Normal" intervals between strings tuned at the 5th fret !width="30px"| |"Slipped" intervals between the G and B strings |- |[[Image:Scala_6_71_2-2_34_5.svg]]<br /><small>(Ausschnitt)</small> !width="30px"| |[[Image:Scala 6 71 2-2 34 5 GB.svg]] |} <small>Here is a little anticipation of a later lesson. We need this “module” to slide from one scale shape to the next one. .<span class="noprint">(note the animation above)</span>.</small> ==== Rondeau (excerpt) ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 5-5-2;5-7-3;5-8-4; 6-5-6;6-7-7;6-8-1;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> The one-bar sequence was taken from a Rondeau by JS Bach that you can repeat as desired. You can find the root note C again in the 8th fret on the E string; this time under the pinky. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="2nd Fingering (G-Form) in C major" subtitle="Rondeau (excerpt)" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #5 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key c \major \repeat volta 2 { e8 d e f e d c e d c d e d c b d c b c d c b a c b a b c d b c d } <c e g c>1^\markup { \bold {(C)} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> {{Tip|Leave your fingers there for as long as possible. Leave the index finger as the middle finger and little finger follow. If you take the little finger away again, the middle finger is already in place. If you remove the middle finger, the index finger is already in place.}} {{Tip|In the C major scale, not only learn the intervals<br> 1 - 3 4<br> 6 - j7 1<br> but also name each individual note.<br> D - EF<br> A - BC<br> This gives you a pretty simple overview of the fretboard.}} ==== "The ugly duckling" or "All my ducklings" <ref>Allusion to a fairy tale by the Brothers Grimm along with a well-known German children's song.</ref> in minor ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 4-5-2;4-7-3;4-8-4; 5-5-6;5-7-7;5-8-1;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> The previous exercise was in major, and here we use the same fingering in minor. As you can see and hear, a fingering or a pattern cannot be clearly assigned to a single key. The final note or the final chord (here the note D or the chord Dm) determines the key. The keynote D here is the sixth (6) of the underlying major pattern. It can be easily derived from the tuning tone in the 5th fret of the A string. If there are two note stems above a number in a tablature, this is a sign of a half note that lasts two beats. Since this looks very unusual for many guitarists, bar lines in the tablature are often omitted. In this case, the duration of the tone can be determined solely from the note values. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="2. Fingersatz (Am-Form) in Dm" subtitle="Das häßliche Entlein" subsubtitle="oder: Alle meine Entchen in Moll" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #5 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key d \minor d4 e f g a2 2 bes4 4 4 4 a1 bes4 4 4 4 a1 g4 4 4 4 f2 2 e4 4 4 4 d1 \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> ==== The Vltava (main motif) ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 3-2-2;3-4-3;3-5-4; 4-2-6;4-4-7;4-5-1;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> The sequence of tones (more precisely the intervals) of the following exercise is almost exactly the same as the previous one, just at a different tone level. But with the different rhythm it is very similar to the main motif of the composition "The Vltava" by Bedrich Smetana (without an upbeat and rhythmically simplified). Even if it only goes up and down the minor scale (as in the 7th exercise), you will hopefully notice how much the beat and rhythm make a difference to the effect. If you later think that your improvisations sound boring, then you should focus more on rhythm. You can also work a little with batting patterns. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="2nd (Dm-Form) in Em" subtitle="The Vltava (main motif)" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #2 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key e \minor e4 fis8 g4 a8 b4. b4. c4. c4. b2. a4. a4. g4 a8 g4. fis4. fis4. e2. \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 6/8 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> ==== Sasha (simplified) ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 2-3-2;2-5-3;2-6-4; 3-2-6;3-4-7;3-5-1;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> The song "Sascha" is played here on the G and B strings. We have to come up with strategies as to which fingering we use best for changing positions. {{Todo|find the translation of the English version of Sasha (I guess Russian Folksong}} <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="2nd Fingering (Em-Form) in Am" subtitle="Sasha (simplified)" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c' { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #2 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key c \major \repeat volta 2 { e8-4 e e c-3 e e e c | b d-3 c-4 b c a a a | } \repeat volta 2 { f'-4 f f r e e e r | e d c-4 b a a a r | } \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #5 <c e a>1^\markup { \bold {(Am)} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 60 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> The melody is easier to play on the other string positions. ==== Asturias (detail) ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 1-5-2;1-7-3;1-8-4; 2-5-6;2-7-7;2-8-1;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> The whole piece of Asturias is a masterpiece. But you might be happy to know that it won't be long before you can at least do a little demonstration of the first few bars of the piece. This is just a preliminary exercise. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="2nd Fingering (D major resp. Bm-Form) in Em" subtitle="Asturias (detail)" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #5 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key e \minor \repeat volta 2 \relative c'{ e8 b' c a b g | e8 b' c a b g | e8 b' c a b g | a fis g a fis g^\markup {2x} | } \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #0 <e, b, e g b e'>2.^\markup { \bold {(Em)} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 6/8 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> === 1st Fingering comes above the 2nd Fingering=== The second fingering always follows immediately below the first fingering. (Of course only if there are other strings above this fingering.) I'll explain later how the scale names come about. Suffice to say, it has something to do with the position of the fundamental note (1). <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;F-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=120\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 3-3-2;3-5-3;3-6-4; 4-3-6;4-5-7;4-6-1; 5-3-3;5-4-4;5-6-5; 6-3-7;6-4-1;6-6-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;Bb-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 2-4-2;2-6-3;2-7-4; 3-3-6;3-5-7;3-6-1; 4-3-3;4-4-4;4-6-5; 5-3-7;5-4-1;5-6-2; " } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;D-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 1-4-2;1-6-3;1-7-4; 2-4-6;2-6-2;2-7-1; 3-3-3;3-4-4;3-6-5; 4-3-7;4-4-1;4-6-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> {{clear}} As you can see, the first fingering with the "square" on the right always comes first, and then comes the fingering with the "square" on the left. They are always one above the other. ==== Burlesque ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;F-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=120\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 3-3-2;3-5-3;3-6-4; 4-3-6;4-5-7;4-6-1; 5-3-3;5-4-4;5-6-5; 6-3-7;6-4-1;6-6-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="1. & 2. Fingersatz (F-Form) in G-Dur" subtitle="Bourlesque" composer = "based on Leopold Mozart" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #2 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key g \major \partial 2 g8 a b c d4 8 b e4 8 c | d2 \breathe c4 8 a | b4 8 g a4 8 fis| g2 \breathe g8 a b c d4 8 b e4 8 c | d2 \breathe c4 8 a | b4 8 g a4 8 fis| g2 \breathe c'4 8 a | b4 8 g a4 8 fis| g2 \breathe c4 8 a | b4 8 g a4 8 fis| g2 \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \addlyrics { "3" "+" "4" "+" "1" "2" "+" "3" "4" "+" "1" "3" "4" "+" "1" "2" "+" "3" "4" "+" "1"} \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> Only between the G and B strings does a position change one fret to the left. Otherwise the three fingerings are the same. So far you have nothing more to learn than two fingerings, that the first comes before the second, and that there is a change of position between the G and B strings. You must take this change of position into account in all future scales. <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;G-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 1-4-6;1-6-7;1-7-1; 2-4-3;2-5-4;2-7-5; 3-3-7;3-4-1;3-6-2;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;C-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% Abstandshalter %% " " \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 4-3-3;4-4-4;4-6-5; 5-3-7;5-4-1;5-6-2; 6-3-2;6-5-3;6-6-4; " } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> {{clear}} Of course, half of the first or second fingering is missing if it doesn't go any further up or down. As you might already suspect, you already have 5 excerpts from the five scales that we will take a closer look at. With the 1st and 2nd fingering and the change of position you have already grasped a large part of the CAGED scales. Later in your repertoire you will only need excerpts from each of the 5 CAGED scales. There are extremely few pieces that have exactly the tone range of a competent CAGED scale or that of one of the 3 fingerings. That's why I don't have attractive exercise examples ready for all scales and scale sections, but I sometimes have to offer you some dry exercises. Hopefully you already have a vague idea of ​​why it's worth learning the scales in their entirety. === 3th Fingering === Does not contain a “square” {| !Fingering !width="30px"| !Intervals |- |[[Image:Scala Z RK-Z K-ZM K.svg]] !width="30px"| |[[Image:Scala 2 34-5 6-71 2.svg]] |} {{Todo|reprint fingering}} This fingering is not an independent fingering at all. The upper part of the 3rd fingering is actually the lower part of the 2nd fingering. Likewise, the lower part of the 3rd fingering is also the beginning of the 1st fingering. What is important about this fingering is the transition between the end of the 2nd fingering through the 5 and 6 to the 1st fingering. During the third fingering there is a change of position to the left. Here it is important to pay particular attention to the position of the fingers. Especially if you don't just play the scale up and down (which you most likely practice at the beginning), this "5-6 transition" always requires a lot of thought until you know how to place your fingers most skillfully. Practice fingering on the top string position and one string position lower! <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;D-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 4-2-7;4-3-1;4-5-2; 5-3-5;5-5-6; 6-3-2;6-5-3;6-6-4;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;G-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 3-2-7;3-3-1;3-5-2; 4-3-5;4-5-6; 5-3-2;5-5-3;5-6-4;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> {{clear}} ;Note! If you slide one string position lower with the 3rd fingering, then we have to take into account the change in position between the G and B strings again. We have just learned that the third fingering involves a change of position to the left. The transition between the G and B strings also results in a change of position to the right. So one change in position is canceled out by the other. Fingering is ultimately made easier by eliminating position changes, but at the beginning you have to think a little more about how the individual position changes affect the third fingering. <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;C-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 2-3-7;2-4-1;2-6-2; 3-3-5;3-5-6; 4-3-2;4-5-3;4-6-4;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;F-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 1-3-7;1-4-1;1-6-2; 2-4-5;2-6-6; 3-3-2;3-5-3;3-6-4;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> {{clear}} You always have to take the matter of the change of position during the 3rd fingering and the change of position between the G and B strings into account. This may sound a bit complicated when you first read it, but it reduces the entire structure of the five main major scales to 4 building blocks. The 1st to 3rd fingering and the change in position between the G and B strings. But that's all you need to know about the formal structure. <div style="float:left; padding:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;Bb-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { %% s:3 = 3x so groß %% f:1 zeigt Finger als Kreise %% f:2 zeigt Finger neben den Saiten %% 6-3-2 Saite-Bund-Finger %% 4-o zeigt 4. Saite offen \fret-diagram #"s:2;f:1; 1-4-5;1-6-6; 2-4-2;2-6-3;2-7-4; 5-3-7;5-4-1;5-6-2; 6-4-5;6-6-6; " } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> {{clear}} In der Bb-Form geht der 3. Fingersatz natürlich nicht weiter als bis zur E-Saite. ==== A II-V-I-Progression ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;D-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 4-4-7;4-5-1;4-7-2; 5-5-5;5-7-6; 6-5-2;6-7-3;6-8-4;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> A simple tone sequence over a 2-5-1 progression. The chord tones are mostly on the heavy beats (on beats!?). * A, C, E, G belong to Am7 * F#, D, C, A belong to the D7 * B, D, G belong to the G major chord. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="3th Fingering (D-Form) in G major" subtitle="A II-V-I-Progression" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #4 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key g \major a8^\markup { \bold {Am7} } b c d e fis g4 | fis8^\markup { \bold {D7} } e d4 c8 b a4 | b8^\markup { \bold {G} } c d4 e8 fis g a| g fis g2. | a,8^\markup { \bold {Am7} } b c d e fis g4 | fis8^\markup { \bold {D7} } e d4 c8 b a4 | b8^\markup { \bold {G} } c d4 e8 fis g a| g fis g2. | \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> ==== A II-V-I-Progression (arpeggios) ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;G-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 3-4-7;3-5-1;3-7-2; 4-5-5;4-7-6; 5-5-2;5-7-3;5-8-4;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> Here are simple arpeggios (harp-like chord tones) of a 2-5-1 progression. The basic harmonic structure becomes clearer if you only play the chord tones. Arpeggios (chord breaks) are more demanding exercises because you have to be familiar with the scale in order to find the chord tones. The three fingerings are not as easy to discover in arpeggios as in more melodic exercises. If an exercise is too difficult for you, postpone it until a later repetition. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="3th Fingering (G-Form) in C major" subtitle="A II-V-I-Progression (arpeggios)" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #4 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key c \major d4^\markup { \bold {Dm} } f a d | b^\markup { \bold {G7} } g f d | e^\markup { \bold {C} } g c2~ | c1 | d,4^\markup { \bold {Dm} } f a d | b^\markup { \bold {G7} } g f d | e^\markup { \bold {C} } g c2~ | c1 \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> ==== A Doric melody ==== <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin:5px; border:black solid 1px; "> ;C-Form <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . ( (number-type . roman-upper) (finger-code . in-dot) (orientation . landscape))) { \fret-diagram #"s:1.5;f:1; 2-2-7;2-3-1;2-5-2; 3-2-5;3-4-6; 4-2-2;4-4-3;4-5-4;" } \paper{ indent=0\mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f bookTitleMarkup = ##f scoreTitleMarkup = ##f} </score> </div> The transition between the G and B strings cancels out the change in position of the third fingering, which simplifies the fingering. Instead of taking a long and laborious process to determine the intervals of the Dorian scale, we proceed as with the minor scale. With the Dorian scale we simply set the root note to (2) of the major pattern. You should have no problem finding the root note E. <score sound="1" raw="1"> \version "2.20.0" \header { title="3th Fingering (C-Form) in G major" subtitle="A Doric melody" } %% Diskant- bzw. Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #2 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key e \dorian e4 b'8 a b2 | b8 cis d4 e8 d cis4 | b8 a b4 e,2 | e8 fis g4 a8 g fis4 | g8 fis e2. | e4 b'8 a b2 | b8 cis d4 e8 d cis4 | b8 a b4 e,2 | e8 fis g4 a8 g fis4 | g8 fis e2. \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. 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Melodiesaiten Diskant = \relative c' { \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #2 \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##t \key d \mixolydian a8 d d c d2~ | d4 fis g a | g8 e e c-3 a2~-1 | a4 b c d | \break a8 d d c d2~ | d4 fis g a | g8 e e c-3 a2~-1 | a4 a b c | \set TabStaff.restrainOpenStrings = ##f < d, a' d fis>1^\markup { \bold {D} } \bar "|." } %% Layout- bzw. Bildausgabe \score { << \new Voice { \clef "treble_8" \time 4/4 \tempo 4 = 120 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \Diskant } \new TabStaff { \tabFullNotation \Diskant } >> \layout {} } %% Midiausgabe mit Wiederholungen, ohne Akkorde \score { << \unfoldRepeats { \new Staff << \tempo 4 = 120 \time 4/4 \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \clef "G_8" \Diskant >> } >> \midi {} } %% unterdrückt im raw="!"-Modus das DinA4-Format. \paper { indent=0\mm %% DinA4 = 210mm - 10mm Rand - 20mm Lochrand = 180mm line-width=180\mm oddFooterMarkup=##f oddHeaderMarkup=##f % bookTitleMarkup=##f scoreTitleMarkup=##f } </score> The notes A and D together form a power chord (reversal of D and A). D and A form the frame interval of the D major chord. (D+F#+A). More important than the starting note of a melody is the ending note, and the fact that you perceive the note D or the chord D major as the tonal center. {{Tip|1= Although the scales <span class="noprint">in the navigation above </span>are presented in CAGED order, I recommend starting the lessons with the D/Bm and G/Em forms, where the 3rd fingering is complete and the position changes do not cancel each other out . <span class="noprint">It's best to use the navigation at the foot of the page. </span>How the position changes of the 3rd fingering cancel each other out with the transition of the G and B strings is best learned in the 2nd step.}} {{Todo|adjust navigation}} == 1 over 2 over 3 over 1... == If you were to spin the system further, you would get the following: <div style="float:left; padding:5px; margin-right:20px; border:black solid 1px; "> <score raw="1"> \version "2.14.2" \markup \override #'(fret-diagram-details . 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The 3 fingerings always follow one another in a specific order. * 1st fingering is above the 2nd fingering * the 3rd fingering connects the lower end of the 2nd fingering with the upper end of the first fingering. * Between the G and B strings, everything shifts one fret to the right. That's all you need to know for the 5 main scales. 3 fingerings that always meet in a certain order and change positions between G and B. With this you will now work out one scale shape after the other. You will see that you will soon have the 5 main types in there. ;Final note And before you ask yourself: In addition to the 5 main forms of the CAGED system, there are a few minor types known as 3-notes-per-string scales and Berkelee scales, and others such as the pentatonic and the blues scales. Scala. But we'll save all of those for later. Don't rush anything! Now it's the turn of the CAGED scales. Each of the following five CAGED scales actually consists of just the three fingerings learned above! <div class="noprint">As a cheat for a quick overview: [[File:Gitarre_Haupt-Skalen-Akkkorde-Pentatoniken.pdf]]</div> == Summary == # As soon as you have found the "square", # It's very easy to get into the 1st and 2nd fingerings. # With each of these fingerings, the keynote of the scale (and with a little practice all other intervals as well) can be determined very easily. # The 1st fingering is above the 2nd fingering. # The 1st and 2nd fingerings are connected by the 3rd fingering. # The third fingering usually involves a change of position to the left. # There is a change of position to the right between the G and H sides. # The position changes of the 3rd fingering and the position changes of the GH string transition can cancel each other out, making fingering easier. {{Tip|After you have done all the exercises on this page, you can try playing each individual exercise on each string position as a repetition. You can even try learning the note names on the fretboard, as demonstrated in the next lesson.}} {{Todo|To be continued. 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(TwinkleGlobal) 4520775 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Delete|1=Broken redirect, Empty category}} #REDIRECT [[:Category:Recipes using game]] samfwa0is4skl0qys48qiewefoh2nv1 The Linux Kernel/Multitasking/CPU 0 475313 4520850 4519755 2025-07-01T19:51:04Z Conan 3188 /* CPU isolation */ 4520850 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>{{DISPLAYTITLE:Interrupts and CPU}}</noinclude> == Interrupts == An {{w|interrupt}} is a signal to the processor emitted by hardware or software indicating an event that needs immediate attention. An interrupt alerts the processor to a high-priority condition requiring the interruption of the current code the processor is executing. The processor responds by suspending its current activities, saving its state, and executing a function called an ''interrupt handler'' (or an interrupt service routine, ISR) to deal with the event. This interruption is temporary, and, after the interrupt handler finishes, the processor resumes normal activities. There are two types of interrupts: hardware interrupts and software interrupts. Hardware interrupts are used by devices to communicate that they require attention from the operating system. For example, pressing a key on the keyboard or moving the mouse triggers hardware interrupts that cause the processor to read the keystroke or mouse position. Unlike the software type, hardware interrupts are asynchronous and can occur in the middle of instruction execution, requiring additional care in programming. The act of initiating a hardware interrupt is referred to as an ''interrupt request'' - IRQ (⚙️ {{The Linux Kernel/id|do_IRQ}}). A software interrupt is caused either by an exceptional condition in the processor itself, or a special instruction in the instruction set which causes an interrupt when it is executed. The former is often called a ''{{w|Trap (computing)|trap}}'' (⚙️ {{The Linux Kernel/id|do_trap}}) or ''exception'' and is used for errors or events occurring during program execution that are exceptional enough that they cannot be handled within the program itself. For example, if the processor's arithmetic logic unit is commanded to divide a number by zero, this impossible demand will cause a ''divide-by-zero exception'' (⚙️ {{The Linux Kernel/id|X86_TRAP_DE}}), perhaps causing the computer to abandon the calculation or display an error message. Software interrupt instructions function similarly to subroutine calls and are used for a variety of purposes, such as to request services from low-level system software such as device drivers. For example, computers often use software interrupt instructions to communicate with the disk controller to request data be read or written to the disk. Each interrupt has its own interrupt handler. The number of hardware interrupts is limited by the number of interrupt request (IRQ) lines to the processor, but there may be hundreds of different software interrupts. ⚲ API : /proc/interrupts : {{The Linux Kernel/man|1|irqtop}} &ndash; utility to display kernel interrupt information : [https://github.com/Irqbalance/irqbalance irqbalance] &ndash; distribute hardware interrupts across processors on a multiprocessor system : There are many ways to request ISR, two of them : {{The Linux Kernel/id|devm_request_threaded_irq}} &ndash; preferable function to allocate an interrupt line for a managed device with a threaded ISR : {{The Linux Kernel/id|request_irq}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|free_irq}} &ndash; old and common functions to add and remove a handler for an interrupt line : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/interrupt.h}} &ndash; main interrupt support header :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|irqaction}} &ndash; contains handler functions : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/irq.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_data}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|include/linux/irqflags.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|irqs_disabled}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|local_irq_save}} ... :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|local_irq_disable}} ... : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/irqdesc.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_desc}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/irqdomain.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_domain}} &ndash; hardware interrupt number translation object :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_domain_get_irq_data}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/msi.h}} &ndash; {{w|Message Signaled Interrupts}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|msi_desc}} : Structure of structures: :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_desc}} is container of ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_data}} :::: irq &ndash; interrupt number ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_common_data}} ::: list of {{The Linux Kernel/id|irqaction}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/irq/settings.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/irq}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/irq/internals.h}} : ls /sys/kernel/debug/irq/domains/ :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|x86_vector_domain}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|x86_vector_domain_ops}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_chip}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|load_idt}} &ndash; load Interrupt Descriptor Table 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|IRQs|core-api/irq}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/doc|The irq_domain interrupt number mapping library|core-api/irq/irq-domain.html}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Linux generic IRQ handling|core-api/genericirq.html}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Message Signaled Interrupts: The MSI Driver Guide|PCI/msi-howto.html}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Lock types and their rules|locking/locktypes.html}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Hard IRQ Context|kernel-hacking/locking.html#hard-irq-context}} : [https://0xax.gitbooks.io/linux-insides/content/Interrupts/ Interrupts] 👁 Examples : {{The Linux Kernel/id|dummy_irq_chip}} &ndash; dummy interrupt chip implementation : {{The Linux Kernel/source|lib/locking-selftest.c}} === IRQ affinity === ⚲ API : /proc/irq/default_smp_affinity : /proc/irq/*/smp_affinity and /proc/irq/*/smp_affinity_list Common types and functions: : struct {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_affinity}} &ndash; description for automatic irq affinity assignments, see {{The Linux Kernel/id|devm_platform_get_irqs_affinity}} : struct {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_affinity_desc}} &ndash; interrupt affinity descriptor, see {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_update_affinity_desc}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_create_affinity_masks}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_set_affinity}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_get_affinity_mask}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_can_set_affinity}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_set_affinity_hint}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irqd_affinity_is_managed}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_data_get_affinity_mask}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_data_get_effective_affinity_mask}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_data_update_effective_affinity}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_set_affinity_notifier}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_affinity_notify}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_chip_set_affinity_parent}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_set_vcpu_affinity}} 🛠️ Utilities : [https://man.archlinux.org/man/extra/irqbalance/irqbalance.1.en irqbalance] – distributes hardware interrupts across CPUs 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|SMP IRQ affinity|core-api/irq/irq-affinity.html}} : [https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/realtime/documentation/howto/tools/cpu-partitioning/start#irq_affinity IRQ affinity, LF] : [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt#:~:text=managed_irq managed_irq kernel parameter], [https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/?q=managed_irq @LKML] : [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt#:~:text=irqaffinity= irqaffinity kernel parameter], [https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/?q=irqaffinity @LKML] === Non-maskable interrupts === ⚲ API : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/nmi.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|in_nmi}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|touch_nmi_watchdog}} :: ... : {{The Linux Kernel/include|trace/events/nmi.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86/include/asm/nmi.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|register_nmi_handler}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|unregister_nmi_handler}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86/kernel/nmi.c}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86/kernel/nmi_selftest.c}} 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|NMI Trace Events|trace/events-nmi.html}} 📚 Further reading : [https://0xax.gitbooks.io/linux-insides/content/Interrupts/linux-interrupts-6.html Non-maskable interrupt handler] (NMI) === ... === 📚 Further reading about interrupts : IDT &ndash; {{w|Interrupt descriptor table}} : [https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/realtime/documentation/howto/tools/ticklesskernel Tickless (Full dynticks)] reduces timer interrupts overhead, {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL}} : [https://www.felixcloutier.com/x86/lgdt:lidt LGDT/LIDT &ndash; Load Global/Interrupt Descriptor Table Register] asm instruction == Deferred works == === Scheduler context === ==== kthread work ==== This framework simplifies the use of kernel kthreads. A {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_work}} item can be queued with {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_queue_work}} and flushed using {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_flush_work}}. All queued kthread_work items are processed by a dedicated kernel thread executing the {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_worker_fn}} function. ⚲ API : {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_work}} &ndash; contains {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_work_func_t}} to execute :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_init_work}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_flush_work}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_worker}} &ndash; links a kthread_work and a task :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_run_worker}} &ndash; creates and wakes a kthread worker ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_create_worker}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_flush_worker}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_destroy_worker}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_queue_work}} &ndash; queues a kthread_work on a kthread_worker ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/id|__kthread_create_worker_on_node}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_worker_fn}} &ndash; executes work's function 👁 Example usages : {{The Linux Kernel/id|watchdog_kworker}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|pwq_release_worker}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|pump_messages}} ==== Threaded IRQ ==== ⚲ API {{The Linux Kernel/id|devm_request_threaded_irq}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|request_threaded_irq}} ISR should return IRQ_WAKE_THREAD to run thread function ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/id|setup_irq_thread}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_thread}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/irq/manage.c}} 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|request_threaded_irq|core-api/genericirq.html#c.request_threaded_irq}} ==== Work and workqueue ==== Generic async execution with shared worker pool. ⚲ API : {{The Linux Kernel/id|PF_WQ_WORKER}} &ndash; workqueue worker process flag : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/workqueue.h}}, {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/workqueue_types.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|work_struct}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|INIT_WORK}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|schedule_work}}, : {{The Linux Kernel/id|delayed_work}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|INIT_DELAYED_WORK}}, {{The Linux_Kernel/id|schedule_delayed_work}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|cancel_delayed_work_sync}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|workqueue_struct}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|alloc_workqueue}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|destroy_workqueue}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|queue_work}} &ndash; queues work on a workqueue : {{The Linux Kernel/id|show_all_workqueues}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|show_one_workqueue}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|system_power_efficient_wq}} ... 👁 Example usage {{The Linux Kernel/source|samples/ftrace/sample-trace-array.c}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/workqueue.c}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|workqueue_init}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|create_worker}} :::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|worker_thread}} ::::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|process_one_work}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|format_worker_id}} &ndash; names kworker kthreads :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|pool_workqueue}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|worker_pool}} 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Concurrency Managed Workqueue|core-api/workqueue.html}} === Interrupt context === : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/irq_work.h}} &ndash; framework for enqueueing and running callbacks from hardirq context :: {{The Linux Kernel/source|samples/trace_printk/trace-printk.c}} ==== Timers ==== ===== softirq timer ===== This timer is a softirq for periodical tasks with jiffies resolution ⚲ API : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/timer.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|timer_list}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|DEFINE_TIMER}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|timer_setup}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|mod_timer}} &mdash; sets expiration time in jiffies. : {{The Linux Kernel/id|del_timer}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/time/timer.c}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|timer_bases}} 👁 Examples : {{The Linux Kernel/id|input_enable_softrepeat}} and {{The Linux Kernel/id|input_start_autorepeat}} 📚 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Time and timer routines|driver-api/basics.html#time-and-timer-routines}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/doc|mod_timer_pending ... |driver-api/basics.html#c.mod_timer_pending}} ===== High-resolution timer ===== ⚲ API : /proc/timer_list : /proc/sys/kernel/timer_migration : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/hrtimer_defs.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/hrtimer.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|hrtimer}}, hrtimer.function &mdash; callback : {{The Linux Kernel/id|hrtimer_init}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|hrtimer_setup}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|hrtimer_start}} &mdash; starts a timer with nanosecond resolution : {{The Linux Kernel/id|hrtimer_cancel}} 👁 Examples {{The Linux Kernel/id|alarm_init}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|watchdog_enable}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_HIGH_RES_TIMERS}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/time/tick-internal.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|hrtimer_bases}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/time/hrtimer.c}} ''' : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/time/itimer.c}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/time/timer_list.c}} 📚 HR timers references : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|High-resolution timers|driver-api/basics.html#high-resolution-timers}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|hrtimers - subsystem for high-resolution kernel timers|timers/hrtimers.html}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|high resolution timers and dynamic ticks design notes|timers/highres.html}} ===== ... ===== 📚 Timers references : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Timers|timers}} : [https://lwn.net/Articles/913568/ Better CPU selection for timer expiration] ==== Tasklet ==== tasklet is a softirq, for time critical operations ⚲ API is deprecated in favor of threaded IRQs: {{The Linux Kernel/id|devm_request_threaded_irq}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|tasklet_struct}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|tasklet_init}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|tasklet_schedule}} ⚙️ Internals: {{The Linux Kernel/id|tasklet_action_common}} HI_SOFTIRQ, TASKLET_SOFTIRQ ==== Softirq ==== softirq is internal system facility and should not be used directly. Use tasklet or threaded IRQs ⚲ API : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/interrupt.h}} : cat /proc/softirqs : {{The Linux Kernel/id|open_softirq}} registers {{The Linux Kernel/id|softirq_action}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/softirq.c}} 📖 References : [https://0xax.gitbooks.io/linux-insides/content/Interrupts/linux-interrupts-9.html Introduction to deferred interrupts (Softirq, Tasklets and Workqueues)] : [https://0xax.gitbooks.io/linux-insides/content/Timers/ Timers and time management] : [https://linux-kernel-labs.github.io/refs/heads/master/labs/deferred_work.html Deferred work, linux-kernel-labs] : [https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/linux-device-drivers/0596005903/ch07.html Chapter 7. Time, Delays, and Deferred Work] ==CPU specific== 🖱️ GUI : [https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/kinetic/en/man8/tuna.8.html tuna] &ndash; program for tuning running processes ⚲ API : cat /proc/cpuinfo : /sys/devices/system/cpu/ : /sys/devices/system/node/ : /sys/cpu/ : /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu/ : grep -i cpu /proc/self/status : [https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jammy/man1/rdmsr.1.html rdmsr] &ndash; tool for reading CPU machine specific registers (MSR) : {{The Linux Kernel/man|1|lscpu}} &ndash; display information about the CPU architecture : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/arch_topology.h}} &ndash; arch specific cpu topology information : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpu.h}} &ndash; generic cpu definition : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpu_cooling.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpu_pm.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpufeature.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/peci-cpu.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/sched/cputime.h}} &ndash; cputime accounting APIs : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/clk.h}} &ndash; interfaces for managing hardware clocks in device drivers ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|drivers/base/cpu.c}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpu_dev_init}} === Cache === : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cacheflush.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86/include/asm/cacheflush.h}}: {{The Linux Kernel/id|clflush_cache_range}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cache.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86/include/asm/cache.h}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86/mm/pat/set_memory.c}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mtrr/}} 📚 Further reading : MTTR &ndash; {{w|Memory type range register}} : {{w|CPU cache}} === {{w|Symmetric_multiprocessing|SMP}} === This chapter is about multiprocessing and {{w|Multi-core processor|muti-core}} aspects of Linux kernel. Key concepts and features of Linux SMP include: * Symmetry: In an SMP system, all processors are considered the same without hardware hierarchy in contradiction to use of {{w|coprocessor}}s. * Load balancing: The Linux kernel employs load balancing mechanisms to distribute tasks evenly among available CPU cores. This prevents any one core from becoming overwhelmed while others remain underutilized. * Parallelism: SMP enables parallel processing, where multiple threads or processes can execute simultaneously on different CPU cores. This can significantly improve the execution speed of applications that are designed to take advantage of multiple threads. * Thread scheduling: The Linux kernel scheduler is responsible for determining which threads or processes run on which CPU cores and for how long. It aims to optimize performance by minimizing contention and maximizing CPU utilization. * Shared memory: In an SMP system, all CPU cores typically share the same physical memory space. This allows processes and threads running on different cores to communicate and share data more efficiently. * NUMA &ndash; {{w|Non-Uniform Memory Access}}: In larger SMP systems, memory access times might not be uniform due to the physical arrangement of memory banks and processors. Linux has mechanisms to handle NUMA architectures efficiently, allowing processes to be scheduled on CPUs closer to their associated memory. * Cache coherency: SMP systems require mechanisms to ensure that all CPU cores have consistent views of memory. Cache coherency protocols ensure that changes made to shared memory locations are correctly propagated to all cores. * Scalability: SMP systems can be scaled up to include more CPU cores, enhancing the overall computing power of the system. However, as the number of cores increases, challenges related to memory access, contention, and communication between cores may arise. * Kernel and user space: Linux applications running in user space can take advantage of SMP without needing to be aware of the underlying hardware details. The kernel handles the management of CPU cores and resource allocation. ⚲ API : <code>ps -PLe</code> &ndash; lists threads with processor that the thread last executed on (the third column PSR). : {{The Linux Kernel/man|2|getcpu}} &ndash; determine CPU and NUMA node on which the calling thread is running : {{The Linux Kernel/man|8|chcpu}} &ndash; configure CPUs : {{The Linux Kernel/man|3|CPU_SET}} &ndash; macros for manipulating CPU sets : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/smp.h}} :: The most commonly used functions: :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|crash_smp_send_stop}} – halts all CPUs except the calling one in a crash context :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|get_cpu}} – disables preemption and returns the current processor ID :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|on_each_cpu}} – runs a given function on all CPUs, possibly with synchronization :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|on_each_cpu_cond_mask}} – conditionally runs a function on selected CPUs :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|on_each_cpu_mask}} – executes a function on a specified set of CPUs :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|panic_smp_self_stop}} – stops the local CPU during a panic while ensuring others halt :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|put_cpu}} – re-enables preemption after a previous get_cpu call :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|raw_smp_processor_id}} – returns the current CPU ID without preemption safety :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|setup_max_cpus}} – sets up the maximum number of CPUs to be brought online :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_call_func_t}} – typedef for the function signature used in SMP function calls :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_call_function}} – invokes a function on all other CPUs asynchronously :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_call_function_any}} – runs a function on any available CPU in a given mask :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_call_function_many}} – sends a function call to a specified set of CPUs :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_call_function_single}} – sends a function to execute on a single target CPU :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_call_function_single_async}} – queues a function to run asynchronously on one CPU :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_call_on_cpu}} – executes a function on a specific CPU and waits for the result :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_init}} – initializes core SMP structures and state during boot :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_prepare_boot_cpu}} – prepares the boot CPU during early SMP initialization :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_prepare_cpus}} – prepares all CPUs for booting before secondary CPUs are started :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_processor_id}} – returns the ID of the current CPU with preemption checks :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_send_reschedule}} – sends a reschedule interrupt to a target CPU :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_send_stop}} – stops all other CPUs in response to critical events :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|wake_up_all_idle_cpus}} – wakes all idle CPUs to ensure prompt task execution : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpu.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/group_cpus.h}}: {{The Linux Kernel/id|group_cpus_evenly}} &ndash; groups all CPUs evenly per NUMA/CPU locality : {{The Linux Kernel/include|asm-generic/percpu.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/percpu-defs.h}} &ndash; basic definitions for percpu areas :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|this_cpu_ptr}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/percpu.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/percpu-refcount.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/percpu-rwsem.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/preempt.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|migrate_disable}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|migrate_enable}} : /sys/bus/cpu : [[#per_CPU_local_lock|per CPU local_lock]] : {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86/include/asm/topology.h}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/id|boot_cpu_init}} activates the first CPU : {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_prepare_cpus}} initializes rest CPUs during boot : {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpu_number}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_SMP}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_NUMA}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|trace/events/percpu.h}} : IPI &ndash; {{w|Inter-processor interrupt}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/include|trace/events/ipi.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/file|kernel/irq/ipi.c}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|ipi_send_single}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|ipi_send_mask}} ... :: {{The Linux Kernel/file|drivers/base/cpu.c}} &ndash; CPU driver model subsystem support :: {{The Linux Kernel/file|kernel/cpu.c}} : smpboot :: {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/smpboot.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/smpboot.c}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86/kernel/smpboot.c}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|lib/group_cpus.c}} 🛠️ Utilities : [https://man.archlinux.org/man/extra/irqbalance/irqbalance.1.en irqbalance] – distributes hardware interrupts across CPUs : {{The Linux Kernel/man|8|numactl}} &ndash; controls NUMA policy for processes or shared memory 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Per-CPU Data|kernel-hacking/locking.html#per-cpu-data}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|How CPU topology info is exported via sysfs|admin-guide/cputopology.html}} 📚 Further reading : [https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/9/html/monitoring_and_managing_system_status_and_performance/customizing-tuned-profiles_monitoring-and-managing-system-status-and-performance#functionalities-of-the-scheduler-tuned-plug-in_customizing-tuned-profiles Functionalities of the scheduler TuneD plugin] : [https://man.archlinux.org/man/tuned-adm.8 tuned-adm] &ndash; command line tool for switching between different tuning profiles ==== CPU affinity ==== Affinity refers to assigning a process or thread to specific CPU cores. This helps control which CPUs execute tasks, potentially improving performance by reducing data movement between cores. It can be managed using system calls or commands. Affinity can be represented as CPU bitmask: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpumask_t}} or CPU affinity list: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpulist_parse}}. ⚲ API : {{The Linux Kernel/man|1|taskset}} &ndash; set or retrieve a process's CPU affinity : grep Cpus_allowed /proc/self/status : {{The Linux Kernel/man|2|sched_setaffinity}} {{The Linux Kernel/man|2|sched_getaffinity}} &ndash; set and get a thread's CPU affinity mask :: ↪ {{The Linux Kernel/id|sched_setaffinity}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|set_cpus_allowed_ptr}} &ndash; common kernel function to change a task's affinity mask : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpu_rmap.h}} &ndash; CPU affinity reverse-map support : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpumask_types.h}} :: struct cpumask, {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpumask_t}} &ndash; CPUs bitmap, can be very big :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpumask_var_t}} &ndash; type for local cpumask variable, see {{The Linux Kernel/id|alloc_cpumask_var}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|free_cpumask_var}}. : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpumask.h}} &ndash; Cpumasks provide a bitmap suitable for representing the set of CPU's in a system, one bit position per CPU number :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|for_each_possible_cpu}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|num_online_cpus}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpumask_set_cpu}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpumask_test_cpu}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|for_each_cpu}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpus_mask}} &ndash; affinity of {{The Linux Kernel/id|task_struct}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpus_allowed}} &ndash; affinity of {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuset}} 📚 Further reading : {{w|Processor affinity}} : {{w|Affinity mask}} ==== CPU hotplug ==== CPU hotplugging in Linux refers to the ability to dynamically add or remove CPUs from the system without needing a reboot. This feature is crucial in environments requiring high availability and resource flexibility, such as data centers, virtualized systems, and systems that use power management aggressively. 🗝️ Acronyms : BP &ndash; Bootstrap Processor : AP &ndash; Application Processor ⚲ API : /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/online : /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/hotplug/ : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpu.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|add_cpu}} ... : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpuhotplug.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuhp_state}} &ndash; CPU hotplug states :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuhp_setup_state}} ... &ndash; setups hotplug state callbacks ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuhp_setup_state_multi}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuhp_setup_state_nocalls}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpuhplock.h}} &ndash; CPU hotplug locking :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpus_read_lock}} ... :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|remove_cpu}} ... ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/cpu.c}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuhp_state}} &ndash; from CPUHP_OFFLINE to CPUHP_AP_ACTIVE and CPUHP_ONLINE. :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuhp_hp_states}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|boot_cpu_hotplug_init}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuhp_threads_init}} :: ... {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuhp_invoke_callback_range}} ... : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/irq/cpuhotplug.c}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|drivers/base/cpu.c}} &ndash; CPU subsystem support :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpu_dev_init}} ::: ... {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpu_subsys_online}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|trace/events/cpuhp.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpuhplock.h}} 👁️ Examples : {{The Linux Kernel/id|torture_onoff}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|tools/testing/selftests/sched_ext/hotplug.c}} 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|CPU hotplug in the Kernel|core-api/cpu_hotplug.html}} 📚 Further reading : [https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/man1/stress-ng.1.html#:~:text=cpu%2Donline stress-ng --cpu-online] : {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_CPU_HOTPLUG_STATE_CONTROL}} &ndash; enables the ability to write incremental steps between "offline" and "online" states to the CPU's sysfs target file, allowing for more granular control of state transitions. :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|target_store}}: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpu_up}}/{{The Linux Kernel/id|cpu_down}} : [https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/?q=cpuhotplug+OR+cpuhp cpuhotplug, cpuhp @LKML] ==== CPU isolation ==== CPU isolation ensures that specific tasks run on dedicated CPUs, reducing contention and latency. '''Housekeeping''' CPUs refer to the CPUs that are reserved for various '''system''' tasks. See {{The Linux Kernel/id|hk_type}}. '''Isolated''' CPUs are dedicated to '''real-time''' applications, such as DPDK. ⚲ API : /sys/devices/system/cpu/isolated : /sys/devices/system/cpu/nohz_full : [https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.html#:~:text=cpuset.cpus.isolated /sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset.cpus.isolated] : [https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.html#:~:text=Partition%20root%20without%20load%20balancing /sys/fs/cgroup/.../cpuset.cpus.partition] : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/sched/isolation.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|hk_type}} &ndash; housekeeping type :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|housekeeping_cpumask}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpu_is_isolated}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpuset.h}} &ndash; cpuset interface :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuset_cpu_is_isolated}} : {{The Linux Kernel/man|7|cpuset}} &ndash; confine processes to processor and memory node subsets ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_CPU_ISOLATION}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/sched/isolation.c}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|isolated_cpus}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_CPUSETS}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/cgroup/cpuset.c}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuset_init}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuset_init_smp}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|partition_xcpus_newstate}} 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|CPU lists in command-line parameters|admin-guide/kernel-parameters.html#cpu-lists}} :: [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt#:~:text=nohz_full= '''nohz_full'''] clears housekeeping.{{The Linux Kernel/id|cpumasks}} for tick, wq, timer, rcu, misc, and kthread in {{The Linux Kernel/id|housekeeping_nohz_full_setup}} :: [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt#:~:text=isolcpus '''isolcpus'''] clears housekeeping.{{The Linux Kernel/id|cpumasks}} for [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt#:~:text=domain%20isolation domain] (by default), [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt#:~:text=nohz nohz], and [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt#:~:text=managed_irq managed_irq] in {{The Linux Kernel/id|housekeeping_isolcpus_setup}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|NO_HZ: Reducing Scheduling-Clock Ticks|timers/no_hz.html}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|CPUSETS of cgroup v2|admin-guide/cgroup-v2.html#cpuset}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|CPUSETS of cgroup v1|admin-guide/cgroup-v1/cpusets.html}} 📚 Further reading : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lomUhSS82s CPU Isolation state of the art, LPC'23] : [https://www.suse.com/c/cpu-isolation-introduction-part-1/ CPU Isolation] : [https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/?q=isolcpus isolcpus @LKML] : [https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/?q=housekeeping housekeeping @LKML] : [https://kubernetes.io/docs/tasks/administer-cluster/reserve-compute-resources/#explicitly-reserved-cpu-list Explicitly Reserved CPU List, Kubernetes Documentation] : [https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/realtime/documentation/howto/tools/cpu-partitioning/start CPU Partitioning] : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Scheduler Domains|scheduler/sched-domains.html}} &ndash; the Scheduler balances CPUs (scheduling groups) within a sched domain : [https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/?q=nohz_full nohz_full @LKML] === {{w|Memory barrier}}s === Memory barriers (MB) are synchronization mechanisms used to ensure proper ordering of memory operations in a SMP environment. They play a crucial role in maintaining the consistency and correctness of data shared among different CPU cores or processors. MBs prevent unexpected and potentially harmful reordering of memory access instructions by the compiler or CPU, which can lead to data corruption and race conditions in a concurrent software system. ⚲ API : {{The Linux Kernel/man|2|membarrier}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|asm-generic/barrier.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|mb}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|rmb}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|wmb}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_mb}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_rmb}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_wmb}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86/include/asm/barrier.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/sched/membarrier.c}} 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Memory barriers|core-api/wrappers/memory-barriers.html}} === States === C-states and P-states are features in modern CPUs designed to improve energy efficiency. C-states, aka cpuidle, {{w|ACPI#Processor_states|Processor states}}: : C0 &ndash; the operating state. : C1 (aka Halt) &ndash; the processor is not executing instructions, but can return to an executing state instantaneously. : C2 (aka Stop-Clock) &ndash; the processor maintains all software-visible state, but may take longer to wake up. : C3 (aka Sleep) &ndash; takes longer to wake up. : ... P-states, aka cpufreq, {{w|ACPI#Performance_state|Performance states}}: : P0 &ndash; maximum power and frequency : Pn &ndash; less power and frequency : ... ⚲ API : [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt#:~:text=idle= idle=] : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Working-State Power Management|admin-guide/pm/working-state.html}} :: [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt#:~:text=intel_pstate intel_pstate=] : [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt#:~:text=cpufreq.default_governor cpufreq.default_governor=] : /dev/cpu_dma_latency &ndash; see {{The Linux Kernel/id|set_cpu_dma_latency}} : C-states interfaces: :: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuidle/ :: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpuidle/ :: {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpuidle.h}} &ndash; a generic framework for CPU idle power management :: {{The Linux Kernel/doc|intel_idle CPU Idle Time Management Driver|admin-guide/pm/intel_idle.html}} : P-states interfaces: :: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ :: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/ :: /sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/ :: {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpufreq.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Kernel Command Line Options for intel_pstate|admin-guide/pm/intel_pstate.html#kernel-command-line-options-for-intel-pstate}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/sched/cpufreq.h}} &ndash; interface between cpufreq drivers and the scheduler : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/pm_qos.h}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|drivers/cpuidle}} &ndash; C-states implementation : {{The Linux Kernel/source|drivers/cpufreq}} &ndash; P-states implementation :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|intel_pstate}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|acpi_cpufreq_driver}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c}} &ndash; implementation of cpufreq.default_governor=schedutil : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/power/qos.c}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpu_latency_qos_miscdev}} &ndash; implementation of /dev/cpu_dma_latency 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Working-State Power Management|admin-guide/pm/working-state.html}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/doc|CPU Idle Time Management|admin-guide/pm/cpuidle.html}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/doc|CPU Performance Scaling|admin-guide/pm/cpufreq.html}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|PM Quality Of Service Interface|power/pm_qos_interface.html}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Device Frequency Scaling|driver-api/devfreq.html}} : [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/cpu-freq/governors.txt CPUFreq Governor] : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|CPUFreq - CPU frequency and voltage scaling|cpu-freq}} 📚 Further reading : {{The Linux Kernel/ltp|kernel/device-drivers|cpufreq}} : [https://linux.die.net/man/1/cpupower cpupower] : [https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_use_cpufrequtils How to use cpufrequtils] :: [https://linux.die.net/man/1/cpufreq-info cpufreq-info] :: [https://linux.die.net/man/1/cpufreq-set cpufreq-set] === Architectures === Linux CPU architectures refer to the different types of central processing units (CPUs) that are compatible with the Linux operating system. Linux is designed to run on a wide range of CPU architectures, which allows it to be utilized on various devices, from smartphones to servers and supercomputers. Each architecture has its own unique features, advantages, and design considerations. Architectures are classified by family (e.g. x86, ARM), {{w|Word (computer architecture)|word}} or {{w|Integer_(computer_science)#Long_integer|long int}} size (e.g. {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_32BIT}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_64BIT}}). Some functions with different implementations for different CPU architectures: : {{The Linux Kernel/id|do_boot_cpu}} > {{The Linux Kernel/id|start_secondary}} > {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpu_init}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|setup_arch}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|start_thread}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|get_current}}, {{Linux ident|current}} ⚲ API : {{The Linux Kernel/id|BITS_PER_LONG}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|__BITS_PER_LONG}}, ⚙️ Arch internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch}} :: '''x86''' ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_X86}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/source|drivers/platform/x86}} ::: https://lwn.net/Kernel/Index/#Architectures-x86 ::: {{The Linux Kernel/man|1|perf-intel-pt}} &ndash; support for Intel Processor Trace within perf :: '''ARM''' ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_ARM}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/arm}}, {{The Linux Kernel/doc|ARM Architecture|arch/arm}} ::: https://lwn.net/Kernel/Index/#Architectures-ARM ::: {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/arm64}}, {{The Linux Kernel/doc|ARM64 Architecture|arm64}} : [https://0xax.gitbooks.io/linux-insides/content/Initialization/linux-initialization-5.html architecture-specific initialization] 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|CPU Architectures|arch}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/doc|x86-specific|arch/x86}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/doc|x86_64 Support|arch/x86/x86_64}} {{BookCat}} bs113boua77xvcq4lk045wf0oi43kyb 4520928 4520850 2025-07-02T10:30:19Z Conan 3188 /* States */ github.com/intel 4520928 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>{{DISPLAYTITLE:Interrupts and CPU}}</noinclude> == Interrupts == An {{w|interrupt}} is a signal to the processor emitted by hardware or software indicating an event that needs immediate attention. An interrupt alerts the processor to a high-priority condition requiring the interruption of the current code the processor is executing. The processor responds by suspending its current activities, saving its state, and executing a function called an ''interrupt handler'' (or an interrupt service routine, ISR) to deal with the event. This interruption is temporary, and, after the interrupt handler finishes, the processor resumes normal activities. There are two types of interrupts: hardware interrupts and software interrupts. Hardware interrupts are used by devices to communicate that they require attention from the operating system. For example, pressing a key on the keyboard or moving the mouse triggers hardware interrupts that cause the processor to read the keystroke or mouse position. Unlike the software type, hardware interrupts are asynchronous and can occur in the middle of instruction execution, requiring additional care in programming. The act of initiating a hardware interrupt is referred to as an ''interrupt request'' - IRQ (⚙️ {{The Linux Kernel/id|do_IRQ}}). A software interrupt is caused either by an exceptional condition in the processor itself, or a special instruction in the instruction set which causes an interrupt when it is executed. The former is often called a ''{{w|Trap (computing)|trap}}'' (⚙️ {{The Linux Kernel/id|do_trap}}) or ''exception'' and is used for errors or events occurring during program execution that are exceptional enough that they cannot be handled within the program itself. For example, if the processor's arithmetic logic unit is commanded to divide a number by zero, this impossible demand will cause a ''divide-by-zero exception'' (⚙️ {{The Linux Kernel/id|X86_TRAP_DE}}), perhaps causing the computer to abandon the calculation or display an error message. Software interrupt instructions function similarly to subroutine calls and are used for a variety of purposes, such as to request services from low-level system software such as device drivers. For example, computers often use software interrupt instructions to communicate with the disk controller to request data be read or written to the disk. Each interrupt has its own interrupt handler. The number of hardware interrupts is limited by the number of interrupt request (IRQ) lines to the processor, but there may be hundreds of different software interrupts. ⚲ API : /proc/interrupts : {{The Linux Kernel/man|1|irqtop}} &ndash; utility to display kernel interrupt information : [https://github.com/Irqbalance/irqbalance irqbalance] &ndash; distribute hardware interrupts across processors on a multiprocessor system : There are many ways to request ISR, two of them : {{The Linux Kernel/id|devm_request_threaded_irq}} &ndash; preferable function to allocate an interrupt line for a managed device with a threaded ISR : {{The Linux Kernel/id|request_irq}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|free_irq}} &ndash; old and common functions to add and remove a handler for an interrupt line : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/interrupt.h}} &ndash; main interrupt support header :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|irqaction}} &ndash; contains handler functions : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/irq.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_data}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|include/linux/irqflags.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|irqs_disabled}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|local_irq_save}} ... :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|local_irq_disable}} ... : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/irqdesc.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_desc}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/irqdomain.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_domain}} &ndash; hardware interrupt number translation object :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_domain_get_irq_data}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/msi.h}} &ndash; {{w|Message Signaled Interrupts}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|msi_desc}} : Structure of structures: :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_desc}} is container of ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_data}} :::: irq &ndash; interrupt number ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_common_data}} ::: list of {{The Linux Kernel/id|irqaction}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/irq/settings.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/irq}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/irq/internals.h}} : ls /sys/kernel/debug/irq/domains/ :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|x86_vector_domain}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|x86_vector_domain_ops}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_chip}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|load_idt}} &ndash; load Interrupt Descriptor Table 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|IRQs|core-api/irq}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/doc|The irq_domain interrupt number mapping library|core-api/irq/irq-domain.html}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Linux generic IRQ handling|core-api/genericirq.html}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Message Signaled Interrupts: The MSI Driver Guide|PCI/msi-howto.html}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Lock types and their rules|locking/locktypes.html}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Hard IRQ Context|kernel-hacking/locking.html#hard-irq-context}} : [https://0xax.gitbooks.io/linux-insides/content/Interrupts/ Interrupts] 👁 Examples : {{The Linux Kernel/id|dummy_irq_chip}} &ndash; dummy interrupt chip implementation : {{The Linux Kernel/source|lib/locking-selftest.c}} === IRQ affinity === ⚲ API : /proc/irq/default_smp_affinity : /proc/irq/*/smp_affinity and /proc/irq/*/smp_affinity_list Common types and functions: : struct {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_affinity}} &ndash; description for automatic irq affinity assignments, see {{The Linux Kernel/id|devm_platform_get_irqs_affinity}} : struct {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_affinity_desc}} &ndash; interrupt affinity descriptor, see {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_update_affinity_desc}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_create_affinity_masks}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_set_affinity}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_get_affinity_mask}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_can_set_affinity}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_set_affinity_hint}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irqd_affinity_is_managed}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_data_get_affinity_mask}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_data_get_effective_affinity_mask}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_data_update_effective_affinity}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_set_affinity_notifier}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_affinity_notify}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_chip_set_affinity_parent}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_set_vcpu_affinity}} 🛠️ Utilities : [https://man.archlinux.org/man/extra/irqbalance/irqbalance.1.en irqbalance] – distributes hardware interrupts across CPUs 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|SMP IRQ affinity|core-api/irq/irq-affinity.html}} : [https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/realtime/documentation/howto/tools/cpu-partitioning/start#irq_affinity IRQ affinity, LF] : [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt#:~:text=managed_irq managed_irq kernel parameter], [https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/?q=managed_irq @LKML] : [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt#:~:text=irqaffinity= irqaffinity kernel parameter], [https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/?q=irqaffinity @LKML] === Non-maskable interrupts === ⚲ API : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/nmi.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|in_nmi}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|touch_nmi_watchdog}} :: ... : {{The Linux Kernel/include|trace/events/nmi.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86/include/asm/nmi.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|register_nmi_handler}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|unregister_nmi_handler}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86/kernel/nmi.c}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86/kernel/nmi_selftest.c}} 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|NMI Trace Events|trace/events-nmi.html}} 📚 Further reading : [https://0xax.gitbooks.io/linux-insides/content/Interrupts/linux-interrupts-6.html Non-maskable interrupt handler] (NMI) === ... === 📚 Further reading about interrupts : IDT &ndash; {{w|Interrupt descriptor table}} : [https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/realtime/documentation/howto/tools/ticklesskernel Tickless (Full dynticks)] reduces timer interrupts overhead, {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL}} : [https://www.felixcloutier.com/x86/lgdt:lidt LGDT/LIDT &ndash; Load Global/Interrupt Descriptor Table Register] asm instruction == Deferred works == === Scheduler context === ==== kthread work ==== This framework simplifies the use of kernel kthreads. A {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_work}} item can be queued with {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_queue_work}} and flushed using {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_flush_work}}. All queued kthread_work items are processed by a dedicated kernel thread executing the {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_worker_fn}} function. ⚲ API : {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_work}} &ndash; contains {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_work_func_t}} to execute :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_init_work}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_flush_work}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_worker}} &ndash; links a kthread_work and a task :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_run_worker}} &ndash; creates and wakes a kthread worker ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_create_worker}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_flush_worker}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_destroy_worker}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_queue_work}} &ndash; queues a kthread_work on a kthread_worker ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/id|__kthread_create_worker_on_node}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|kthread_worker_fn}} &ndash; executes work's function 👁 Example usages : {{The Linux Kernel/id|watchdog_kworker}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|pwq_release_worker}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|pump_messages}} ==== Threaded IRQ ==== ⚲ API {{The Linux Kernel/id|devm_request_threaded_irq}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|request_threaded_irq}} ISR should return IRQ_WAKE_THREAD to run thread function ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/id|setup_irq_thread}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|irq_thread}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/irq/manage.c}} 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|request_threaded_irq|core-api/genericirq.html#c.request_threaded_irq}} ==== Work and workqueue ==== Generic async execution with shared worker pool. ⚲ API : {{The Linux Kernel/id|PF_WQ_WORKER}} &ndash; workqueue worker process flag : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/workqueue.h}}, {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/workqueue_types.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|work_struct}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|INIT_WORK}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|schedule_work}}, : {{The Linux Kernel/id|delayed_work}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|INIT_DELAYED_WORK}}, {{The Linux_Kernel/id|schedule_delayed_work}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|cancel_delayed_work_sync}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|workqueue_struct}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|alloc_workqueue}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|destroy_workqueue}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|queue_work}} &ndash; queues work on a workqueue : {{The Linux Kernel/id|show_all_workqueues}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|show_one_workqueue}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|system_power_efficient_wq}} ... 👁 Example usage {{The Linux Kernel/source|samples/ftrace/sample-trace-array.c}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/workqueue.c}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|workqueue_init}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|create_worker}} :::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|worker_thread}} ::::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|process_one_work}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|format_worker_id}} &ndash; names kworker kthreads :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|pool_workqueue}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|worker_pool}} 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Concurrency Managed Workqueue|core-api/workqueue.html}} === Interrupt context === : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/irq_work.h}} &ndash; framework for enqueueing and running callbacks from hardirq context :: {{The Linux Kernel/source|samples/trace_printk/trace-printk.c}} ==== Timers ==== ===== softirq timer ===== This timer is a softirq for periodical tasks with jiffies resolution ⚲ API : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/timer.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|timer_list}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|DEFINE_TIMER}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|timer_setup}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|mod_timer}} &mdash; sets expiration time in jiffies. : {{The Linux Kernel/id|del_timer}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/time/timer.c}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|timer_bases}} 👁 Examples : {{The Linux Kernel/id|input_enable_softrepeat}} and {{The Linux Kernel/id|input_start_autorepeat}} 📚 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Time and timer routines|driver-api/basics.html#time-and-timer-routines}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/doc|mod_timer_pending ... |driver-api/basics.html#c.mod_timer_pending}} ===== High-resolution timer ===== ⚲ API : /proc/timer_list : /proc/sys/kernel/timer_migration : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/hrtimer_defs.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/hrtimer.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|hrtimer}}, hrtimer.function &mdash; callback : {{The Linux Kernel/id|hrtimer_init}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|hrtimer_setup}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|hrtimer_start}} &mdash; starts a timer with nanosecond resolution : {{The Linux Kernel/id|hrtimer_cancel}} 👁 Examples {{The Linux Kernel/id|alarm_init}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|watchdog_enable}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_HIGH_RES_TIMERS}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/time/tick-internal.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|hrtimer_bases}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/time/hrtimer.c}} ''' : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/time/itimer.c}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/time/timer_list.c}} 📚 HR timers references : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|High-resolution timers|driver-api/basics.html#high-resolution-timers}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|hrtimers - subsystem for high-resolution kernel timers|timers/hrtimers.html}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|high resolution timers and dynamic ticks design notes|timers/highres.html}} ===== ... ===== 📚 Timers references : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Timers|timers}} : [https://lwn.net/Articles/913568/ Better CPU selection for timer expiration] ==== Tasklet ==== tasklet is a softirq, for time critical operations ⚲ API is deprecated in favor of threaded IRQs: {{The Linux Kernel/id|devm_request_threaded_irq}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|tasklet_struct}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|tasklet_init}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|tasklet_schedule}} ⚙️ Internals: {{The Linux Kernel/id|tasklet_action_common}} HI_SOFTIRQ, TASKLET_SOFTIRQ ==== Softirq ==== softirq is internal system facility and should not be used directly. Use tasklet or threaded IRQs ⚲ API : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/interrupt.h}} : cat /proc/softirqs : {{The Linux Kernel/id|open_softirq}} registers {{The Linux Kernel/id|softirq_action}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/softirq.c}} 📖 References : [https://0xax.gitbooks.io/linux-insides/content/Interrupts/linux-interrupts-9.html Introduction to deferred interrupts (Softirq, Tasklets and Workqueues)] : [https://0xax.gitbooks.io/linux-insides/content/Timers/ Timers and time management] : [https://linux-kernel-labs.github.io/refs/heads/master/labs/deferred_work.html Deferred work, linux-kernel-labs] : [https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/linux-device-drivers/0596005903/ch07.html Chapter 7. Time, Delays, and Deferred Work] ==CPU specific== 🖱️ GUI : [https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/kinetic/en/man8/tuna.8.html tuna] &ndash; program for tuning running processes ⚲ API : cat /proc/cpuinfo : /sys/devices/system/cpu/ : /sys/devices/system/node/ : /sys/cpu/ : /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu/ : grep -i cpu /proc/self/status : [https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jammy/man1/rdmsr.1.html rdmsr] &ndash; tool for reading CPU machine specific registers (MSR) : {{The Linux Kernel/man|1|lscpu}} &ndash; display information about the CPU architecture : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/arch_topology.h}} &ndash; arch specific cpu topology information : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpu.h}} &ndash; generic cpu definition : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpu_cooling.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpu_pm.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpufeature.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/peci-cpu.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/sched/cputime.h}} &ndash; cputime accounting APIs : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/clk.h}} &ndash; interfaces for managing hardware clocks in device drivers ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|drivers/base/cpu.c}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpu_dev_init}} === Cache === : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cacheflush.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86/include/asm/cacheflush.h}}: {{The Linux Kernel/id|clflush_cache_range}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cache.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86/include/asm/cache.h}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86/mm/pat/set_memory.c}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mtrr/}} 📚 Further reading : MTTR &ndash; {{w|Memory type range register}} : {{w|CPU cache}} === {{w|Symmetric_multiprocessing|SMP}} === This chapter is about multiprocessing and {{w|Multi-core processor|muti-core}} aspects of Linux kernel. Key concepts and features of Linux SMP include: * Symmetry: In an SMP system, all processors are considered the same without hardware hierarchy in contradiction to use of {{w|coprocessor}}s. * Load balancing: The Linux kernel employs load balancing mechanisms to distribute tasks evenly among available CPU cores. This prevents any one core from becoming overwhelmed while others remain underutilized. * Parallelism: SMP enables parallel processing, where multiple threads or processes can execute simultaneously on different CPU cores. This can significantly improve the execution speed of applications that are designed to take advantage of multiple threads. * Thread scheduling: The Linux kernel scheduler is responsible for determining which threads or processes run on which CPU cores and for how long. It aims to optimize performance by minimizing contention and maximizing CPU utilization. * Shared memory: In an SMP system, all CPU cores typically share the same physical memory space. This allows processes and threads running on different cores to communicate and share data more efficiently. * NUMA &ndash; {{w|Non-Uniform Memory Access}}: In larger SMP systems, memory access times might not be uniform due to the physical arrangement of memory banks and processors. Linux has mechanisms to handle NUMA architectures efficiently, allowing processes to be scheduled on CPUs closer to their associated memory. * Cache coherency: SMP systems require mechanisms to ensure that all CPU cores have consistent views of memory. Cache coherency protocols ensure that changes made to shared memory locations are correctly propagated to all cores. * Scalability: SMP systems can be scaled up to include more CPU cores, enhancing the overall computing power of the system. However, as the number of cores increases, challenges related to memory access, contention, and communication between cores may arise. * Kernel and user space: Linux applications running in user space can take advantage of SMP without needing to be aware of the underlying hardware details. The kernel handles the management of CPU cores and resource allocation. ⚲ API : <code>ps -PLe</code> &ndash; lists threads with processor that the thread last executed on (the third column PSR). : {{The Linux Kernel/man|2|getcpu}} &ndash; determine CPU and NUMA node on which the calling thread is running : {{The Linux Kernel/man|8|chcpu}} &ndash; configure CPUs : {{The Linux Kernel/man|3|CPU_SET}} &ndash; macros for manipulating CPU sets : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/smp.h}} :: The most commonly used functions: :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|crash_smp_send_stop}} – halts all CPUs except the calling one in a crash context :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|get_cpu}} – disables preemption and returns the current processor ID :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|on_each_cpu}} – runs a given function on all CPUs, possibly with synchronization :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|on_each_cpu_cond_mask}} – conditionally runs a function on selected CPUs :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|on_each_cpu_mask}} – executes a function on a specified set of CPUs :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|panic_smp_self_stop}} – stops the local CPU during a panic while ensuring others halt :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|put_cpu}} – re-enables preemption after a previous get_cpu call :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|raw_smp_processor_id}} – returns the current CPU ID without preemption safety :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|setup_max_cpus}} – sets up the maximum number of CPUs to be brought online :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_call_func_t}} – typedef for the function signature used in SMP function calls :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_call_function}} – invokes a function on all other CPUs asynchronously :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_call_function_any}} – runs a function on any available CPU in a given mask :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_call_function_many}} – sends a function call to a specified set of CPUs :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_call_function_single}} – sends a function to execute on a single target CPU :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_call_function_single_async}} – queues a function to run asynchronously on one CPU :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_call_on_cpu}} – executes a function on a specific CPU and waits for the result :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_init}} – initializes core SMP structures and state during boot :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_prepare_boot_cpu}} – prepares the boot CPU during early SMP initialization :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_prepare_cpus}} – prepares all CPUs for booting before secondary CPUs are started :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_processor_id}} – returns the ID of the current CPU with preemption checks :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_send_reschedule}} – sends a reschedule interrupt to a target CPU :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_send_stop}} – stops all other CPUs in response to critical events :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|wake_up_all_idle_cpus}} – wakes all idle CPUs to ensure prompt task execution : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpu.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/group_cpus.h}}: {{The Linux Kernel/id|group_cpus_evenly}} &ndash; groups all CPUs evenly per NUMA/CPU locality : {{The Linux Kernel/include|asm-generic/percpu.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/percpu-defs.h}} &ndash; basic definitions for percpu areas :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|this_cpu_ptr}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/percpu.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/percpu-refcount.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/percpu-rwsem.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/preempt.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|migrate_disable}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|migrate_enable}} : /sys/bus/cpu : [[#per_CPU_local_lock|per CPU local_lock]] : {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86/include/asm/topology.h}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/id|boot_cpu_init}} activates the first CPU : {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_prepare_cpus}} initializes rest CPUs during boot : {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpu_number}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_SMP}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_NUMA}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|trace/events/percpu.h}} : IPI &ndash; {{w|Inter-processor interrupt}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/include|trace/events/ipi.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/file|kernel/irq/ipi.c}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|ipi_send_single}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|ipi_send_mask}} ... :: {{The Linux Kernel/file|drivers/base/cpu.c}} &ndash; CPU driver model subsystem support :: {{The Linux Kernel/file|kernel/cpu.c}} : smpboot :: {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/smpboot.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/smpboot.c}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86/kernel/smpboot.c}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|lib/group_cpus.c}} 🛠️ Utilities : [https://man.archlinux.org/man/extra/irqbalance/irqbalance.1.en irqbalance] – distributes hardware interrupts across CPUs : {{The Linux Kernel/man|8|numactl}} &ndash; controls NUMA policy for processes or shared memory 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Per-CPU Data|kernel-hacking/locking.html#per-cpu-data}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|How CPU topology info is exported via sysfs|admin-guide/cputopology.html}} 📚 Further reading : [https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/9/html/monitoring_and_managing_system_status_and_performance/customizing-tuned-profiles_monitoring-and-managing-system-status-and-performance#functionalities-of-the-scheduler-tuned-plug-in_customizing-tuned-profiles Functionalities of the scheduler TuneD plugin] : [https://man.archlinux.org/man/tuned-adm.8 tuned-adm] &ndash; command line tool for switching between different tuning profiles ==== CPU affinity ==== Affinity refers to assigning a process or thread to specific CPU cores. This helps control which CPUs execute tasks, potentially improving performance by reducing data movement between cores. It can be managed using system calls or commands. Affinity can be represented as CPU bitmask: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpumask_t}} or CPU affinity list: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpulist_parse}}. ⚲ API : {{The Linux Kernel/man|1|taskset}} &ndash; set or retrieve a process's CPU affinity : grep Cpus_allowed /proc/self/status : {{The Linux Kernel/man|2|sched_setaffinity}} {{The Linux Kernel/man|2|sched_getaffinity}} &ndash; set and get a thread's CPU affinity mask :: ↪ {{The Linux Kernel/id|sched_setaffinity}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|set_cpus_allowed_ptr}} &ndash; common kernel function to change a task's affinity mask : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpu_rmap.h}} &ndash; CPU affinity reverse-map support : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpumask_types.h}} :: struct cpumask, {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpumask_t}} &ndash; CPUs bitmap, can be very big :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpumask_var_t}} &ndash; type for local cpumask variable, see {{The Linux Kernel/id|alloc_cpumask_var}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|free_cpumask_var}}. : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpumask.h}} &ndash; Cpumasks provide a bitmap suitable for representing the set of CPU's in a system, one bit position per CPU number :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|for_each_possible_cpu}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|num_online_cpus}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpumask_set_cpu}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpumask_test_cpu}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|for_each_cpu}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpus_mask}} &ndash; affinity of {{The Linux Kernel/id|task_struct}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpus_allowed}} &ndash; affinity of {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuset}} 📚 Further reading : {{w|Processor affinity}} : {{w|Affinity mask}} ==== CPU hotplug ==== CPU hotplugging in Linux refers to the ability to dynamically add or remove CPUs from the system without needing a reboot. This feature is crucial in environments requiring high availability and resource flexibility, such as data centers, virtualized systems, and systems that use power management aggressively. 🗝️ Acronyms : BP &ndash; Bootstrap Processor : AP &ndash; Application Processor ⚲ API : /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/online : /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/hotplug/ : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpu.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|add_cpu}} ... : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpuhotplug.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuhp_state}} &ndash; CPU hotplug states :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuhp_setup_state}} ... &ndash; setups hotplug state callbacks ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuhp_setup_state_multi}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuhp_setup_state_nocalls}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpuhplock.h}} &ndash; CPU hotplug locking :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpus_read_lock}} ... :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|remove_cpu}} ... ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/cpu.c}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuhp_state}} &ndash; from CPUHP_OFFLINE to CPUHP_AP_ACTIVE and CPUHP_ONLINE. :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuhp_hp_states}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|boot_cpu_hotplug_init}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuhp_threads_init}} :: ... {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuhp_invoke_callback_range}} ... : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/irq/cpuhotplug.c}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|drivers/base/cpu.c}} &ndash; CPU subsystem support :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpu_dev_init}} ::: ... {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpu_subsys_online}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|trace/events/cpuhp.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpuhplock.h}} 👁️ Examples : {{The Linux Kernel/id|torture_onoff}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|tools/testing/selftests/sched_ext/hotplug.c}} 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|CPU hotplug in the Kernel|core-api/cpu_hotplug.html}} 📚 Further reading : [https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/man1/stress-ng.1.html#:~:text=cpu%2Donline stress-ng --cpu-online] : {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_CPU_HOTPLUG_STATE_CONTROL}} &ndash; enables the ability to write incremental steps between "offline" and "online" states to the CPU's sysfs target file, allowing for more granular control of state transitions. :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|target_store}}: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpu_up}}/{{The Linux Kernel/id|cpu_down}} : [https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/?q=cpuhotplug+OR+cpuhp cpuhotplug, cpuhp @LKML] ==== CPU isolation ==== CPU isolation ensures that specific tasks run on dedicated CPUs, reducing contention and latency. '''Housekeeping''' CPUs refer to the CPUs that are reserved for various '''system''' tasks. See {{The Linux Kernel/id|hk_type}}. '''Isolated''' CPUs are dedicated to '''real-time''' applications, such as DPDK. ⚲ API : /sys/devices/system/cpu/isolated : /sys/devices/system/cpu/nohz_full : [https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.html#:~:text=cpuset.cpus.isolated /sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset.cpus.isolated] : [https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.html#:~:text=Partition%20root%20without%20load%20balancing /sys/fs/cgroup/.../cpuset.cpus.partition] : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/sched/isolation.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|hk_type}} &ndash; housekeeping type :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|housekeeping_cpumask}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpu_is_isolated}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpuset.h}} &ndash; cpuset interface :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuset_cpu_is_isolated}} : {{The Linux Kernel/man|7|cpuset}} &ndash; confine processes to processor and memory node subsets ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_CPU_ISOLATION}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/sched/isolation.c}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|isolated_cpus}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_CPUSETS}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/cgroup/cpuset.c}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuset_init}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpuset_init_smp}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|partition_xcpus_newstate}} 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|CPU lists in command-line parameters|admin-guide/kernel-parameters.html#cpu-lists}} :: [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt#:~:text=nohz_full= '''nohz_full'''] clears housekeeping.{{The Linux Kernel/id|cpumasks}} for tick, wq, timer, rcu, misc, and kthread in {{The Linux Kernel/id|housekeeping_nohz_full_setup}} :: [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt#:~:text=isolcpus '''isolcpus'''] clears housekeeping.{{The Linux Kernel/id|cpumasks}} for [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt#:~:text=domain%20isolation domain] (by default), [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt#:~:text=nohz nohz], and [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt#:~:text=managed_irq managed_irq] in {{The Linux Kernel/id|housekeeping_isolcpus_setup}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|NO_HZ: Reducing Scheduling-Clock Ticks|timers/no_hz.html}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|CPUSETS of cgroup v2|admin-guide/cgroup-v2.html#cpuset}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|CPUSETS of cgroup v1|admin-guide/cgroup-v1/cpusets.html}} 📚 Further reading : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lomUhSS82s CPU Isolation state of the art, LPC'23] : [https://www.suse.com/c/cpu-isolation-introduction-part-1/ CPU Isolation] : [https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/?q=isolcpus isolcpus @LKML] : [https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/?q=housekeeping housekeeping @LKML] : [https://kubernetes.io/docs/tasks/administer-cluster/reserve-compute-resources/#explicitly-reserved-cpu-list Explicitly Reserved CPU List, Kubernetes Documentation] : [https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/realtime/documentation/howto/tools/cpu-partitioning/start CPU Partitioning] : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Scheduler Domains|scheduler/sched-domains.html}} &ndash; the Scheduler balances CPUs (scheduling groups) within a sched domain : [https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/?q=nohz_full nohz_full @LKML] === {{w|Memory barrier}}s === Memory barriers (MB) are synchronization mechanisms used to ensure proper ordering of memory operations in a SMP environment. They play a crucial role in maintaining the consistency and correctness of data shared among different CPU cores or processors. MBs prevent unexpected and potentially harmful reordering of memory access instructions by the compiler or CPU, which can lead to data corruption and race conditions in a concurrent software system. ⚲ API : {{The Linux Kernel/man|2|membarrier}} : {{The Linux Kernel/include|asm-generic/barrier.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|mb}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|rmb}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|wmb}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_mb}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_rmb}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|smp_wmb}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86/include/asm/barrier.h}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/sched/membarrier.c}} 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Memory barriers|core-api/wrappers/memory-barriers.html}} === States === C-states and P-states are features in modern CPUs designed to improve energy efficiency. C-states, aka cpuidle, {{w|ACPI#Processor_states|Processor states}}: : C0 &ndash; the operating state. : C1 (aka Halt) &ndash; the processor is not executing instructions, but can return to an executing state instantaneously. : C2 (aka Stop-Clock) &ndash; the processor maintains all software-visible state, but may take longer to wake up. : C3 (aka Sleep) &ndash; takes longer to wake up. : ... P-states, aka cpufreq, {{w|ACPI#Performance_state|Performance states}}: : P0 &ndash; maximum power and frequency : Pn &ndash; less power and frequency : ... ⚲ API : [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt#:~:text=idle= idle=] : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Working-State Power Management|admin-guide/pm/working-state.html}} :: [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt#:~:text=intel_pstate intel_pstate=] : [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt#:~:text=cpufreq.default_governor cpufreq.default_governor=] : /dev/cpu_dma_latency &ndash; see {{The Linux Kernel/id|set_cpu_dma_latency}} : C-states interfaces: :: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuidle/ :: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpuidle/ :: {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpuidle.h}} &ndash; a generic framework for CPU idle power management :: {{The Linux Kernel/doc|intel_idle CPU Idle Time Management Driver|admin-guide/pm/intel_idle.html}} : P-states interfaces: :: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ :: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/ :: /sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/ :: {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/cpufreq.h}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Kernel Command Line Options for intel_pstate|admin-guide/pm/intel_pstate.html#kernel-command-line-options-for-intel-pstate}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/sched/cpufreq.h}} &ndash; interface between cpufreq drivers and the scheduler : {{The Linux Kernel/include|linux/pm_qos.h}} ⚙️ Internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|drivers/cpuidle}} &ndash; C-states implementation : {{The Linux Kernel/source|drivers/cpufreq}} &ndash; P-states implementation :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|intel_pstate}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|acpi_cpufreq_driver}} : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c}} &ndash; implementation of cpufreq.default_governor=schedutil : {{The Linux Kernel/source|kernel/power/qos.c}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpu_latency_qos_miscdev}} &ndash; implementation of /dev/cpu_dma_latency 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Working-State Power Management|admin-guide/pm/working-state.html}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/doc|CPU Idle Time Management|admin-guide/pm/cpuidle.html}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/doc|CPU Performance Scaling|admin-guide/pm/cpufreq.html}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|PM Quality Of Service Interface|power/pm_qos_interface.html}} : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|Device Frequency Scaling|driver-api/devfreq.html}} : [https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/cpu-freq/governors.txt CPUFreq Governor] : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|CPUFreq - CPU frequency and voltage scaling|cpu-freq}} 📚 Further reading : {{The Linux Kernel/ltp|kernel/device-drivers|cpufreq}} : [https://linux.die.net/man/1/cpupower cpupower] : [https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_use_cpufrequtils How to use cpufrequtils] :: [https://linux.die.net/man/1/cpufreq-info cpufreq-info] :: [https://linux.die.net/man/1/cpufreq-set cpufreq-set] : https://github.com/intel/power-optimization-library : https://github.com/intel/kubernetes-power-manager === Architectures === Linux CPU architectures refer to the different types of central processing units (CPUs) that are compatible with the Linux operating system. Linux is designed to run on a wide range of CPU architectures, which allows it to be utilized on various devices, from smartphones to servers and supercomputers. Each architecture has its own unique features, advantages, and design considerations. Architectures are classified by family (e.g. x86, ARM), {{w|Word (computer architecture)|word}} or {{w|Integer_(computer_science)#Long_integer|long int}} size (e.g. {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_32BIT}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_64BIT}}). Some functions with different implementations for different CPU architectures: : {{The Linux Kernel/id|do_boot_cpu}} > {{The Linux Kernel/id|start_secondary}} > {{The Linux Kernel/id|cpu_init}} : {{The Linux Kernel/id|setup_arch}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|start_thread}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|get_current}}, {{Linux ident|current}} ⚲ API : {{The Linux Kernel/id|BITS_PER_LONG}}, {{The Linux Kernel/id|__BITS_PER_LONG}}, ⚙️ Arch internals : {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch}} :: '''x86''' ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_X86}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/x86}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/source|drivers/platform/x86}} ::: https://lwn.net/Kernel/Index/#Architectures-x86 ::: {{The Linux Kernel/man|1|perf-intel-pt}} &ndash; support for Intel Processor Trace within perf :: '''ARM''' ::: {{The Linux Kernel/id|CONFIG_ARM}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/arm}}, {{The Linux Kernel/doc|ARM Architecture|arch/arm}} ::: https://lwn.net/Kernel/Index/#Architectures-ARM ::: {{The Linux Kernel/source|arch/arm64}}, {{The Linux Kernel/doc|ARM64 Architecture|arm64}} : [https://0xax.gitbooks.io/linux-insides/content/Initialization/linux-initialization-5.html architecture-specific initialization] 📖 References : {{The Linux Kernel/doc|CPU Architectures|arch}} :: {{The Linux Kernel/doc|x86-specific|arch/x86}} ::: {{The Linux Kernel/doc|x86_64 Support|arch/x86/x86_64}} {{BookCat}} hcya40vyusdpxnvfw56qobfeh0n76ab Category:Breadfruit recipes 14 475621 4520771 4509645 2025-07-01T13:04:39Z MathXplore 3097823 Requesting speedy deletion (Broken redirect, Empty category). 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Using the Edit Filter, authorized users can configure a wide range of tests, which may help identify and prevent potentially harmful edits and other activities before they are added to the [[:w:Wiki|wiki]], and the automatic actions to be taken. Important: * Make sure you're familiar with the '''[[Wikibooks:Edit filter|guideline]]''' before creating or modifying filters. * ''PLEASE be careful''. This is potent stuff. Unless it's urgent, always test your filters with no actions enabled first. * The [[Special:AbuseFilter/examine|examine]] and [[Special:AbuseFilter/test|test]] interfaces are awesome for learning the ropes. They let you look at specific edits and filters in detail, without risk of disrupting the encyclopedia. * Keep an eye on the log. * For guidance on how to use tags, see [[Wikibooks:Tags]]. Don't forget to define their appearance and description. {{Warning|'''Please be careful when creating or modifying a filter.''' 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(TwinkleGlobal) 4520774 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Delete|1=Broken redirect, Empty category}} #REDIRECT [[:Category:Recipes using egusi]] 6otkvho0ecq8qkv18c8sqmcay5uhqnt Wikibooks:Reading room/Administrative Assistance/Archives/2025/May 4 476026 4520917 4520755 2025-07-02T08:10:30Z ArchiverBot 1227662 Bot: Archiving 2 threads from [[Wikibooks:Reading room/Administrative Assistance]] 4520917 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talk archive}} == Chrish jordan12 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Chrish jordan12}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Chrish jordan12/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:55, 3 May 2025 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Atcovi|Atcovi]] [[User talk:Atcovi|(Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Atcovi|Contribs)]] 16:37, 3 May 2025 (UTC) == Tahanazir reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Tahanazir}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Tahanazir/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 13:04, 3 May 2025 (UTC) == Iglele reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Iglele}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Iglele/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 13:04, 5 May 2025 (UTC) :{{Done|Blocked}} by {{Noping|JJPMaster}}. [[User:TTWIDEE|TTWIDEE]] ([[User talk:TTWIDEE|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/TTWIDEE|contribs]]) 14:01, 5 May 2025 (UTC) == Adebayo Olamilekanl reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Adebayo Olamilekanl}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Adebayo Olamilekanl/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 13:06, 5 May 2025 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Atcovi|Atcovi]] [[User talk:Atcovi|(Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Atcovi|Contribs)]] 14:05, 5 May 2025 (UTC) == Watchesbuy reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Watchesbuy}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Watchesbuy/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 13:16, 5 May 2025 (UTC) :{{Done|Blocked}} by {{Noping|JJPMaster}}. [[User:TTWIDEE|TTWIDEE]] ([[User talk:TTWIDEE|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/TTWIDEE|contribs]]) 14:04, 5 May 2025 (UTC) == Phpfamily reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Phpfamily}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Phpfamily/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:51, 6 May 2025 (UTC) :Globally locked by {{Noping|MarcGarver}}. [[User:TTWIDEE|TTWIDEE]] ([[User talk:TTWIDEE|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/TTWIDEE|contribs]]) 19:13, 8 May 2025 (UTC) == 2600:387:1:803:0:0:0:5С == {{userlinks|2600:387:1:803:0:0:0:5C}} vandalism [https://en.m.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Car_Washing_Techniques/Introduction&diff=prev&oldid=4491251], [https://en.m.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Memorizing_the_Katakana/Hard_quiz&diff=prev&oldid=4491240&diffonly=1], [https://en.m.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2600:387:1:803:0:0:0:5C&diff=prev&oldid=4491244]. [[User:Oostpulus|Oostpulus]] ([[User talk:Oostpulus|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Oostpulus|contribs]]) 18:28, 10 May 2025 (UTC) :Globally blocked by EPIC. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 10:53, 11 May 2025 (UTC) == 7gEbs?id reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|7gEbs?id}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/7gEbs?id/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 23:14, 11 May 2025 (UTC) :[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Done'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} per above —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:59, 11 May 2025 (UTC) == 7gEbs?id reported by TTWIDEE == * {{Userlinks|7gEbs?id}} Spam. Also, this username feels like a randomly generated ID or something. [[User:TTWIDEE|TTWIDEE]] ([[User talk:TTWIDEE|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/TTWIDEE|contribs]]) 18:14, 11 May 2025 (UTC) :[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Done'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} thanks! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 23:58, 11 May 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] They've recreated the spam. Please block this user. Also, they also have some attempted spam edits that have been blocked by the abuse filter, and they've also spammed on other wikis (they've put spam on Wikiquote, and have attempted to put spam on Wikipedia but have been stopped by the edit filter), so I don't think they have any intention of making any positive contributions. [[User:TTWIDEE|TTWIDEE]] ([[User talk:TTWIDEE|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/TTWIDEE|contribs]]) 09:32, 12 May 2025 (UTC) :::Looks like they've been globally blocked! Usually I don't block accounts for a single instance of spam, mostly because they never make any edits beyond that. But, I may start doing it prophylactically. Cheers —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:19, 12 May 2025 (UTC) == Thesupernic511 reported by MathXplore == * {{userlinks|Thesupernic511}} Spam <!-- USERREPORTED:/Thesupernic511/ --> [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 12:11, 12 May 2025 (UTC) :[[File:Yes_check.svg|{{#ifeq:|small|8|15}}px|link=|alt=]] {{#ifeq:|small|<small>|}}'''Blocked and deleted'''{{#ifeq:|small|</small>|}} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:21, 12 May 2025 (UTC) stm9npen4739ky06wmvsx11xqkp2dkv User talk:Bamjos 3 476126 4520822 4520651 2025-07-01T18:41:41Z Kittycataclysm 3371989 /* Welcome to the Cookbook */ Reply 4520822 wikitext text/x-wiki == Welcome to the Cookbook == {{mbox | type = | image = [[File:Foodlogo2.svg|40px]] | imageright = | style = | textstyle = | text = Hello and thank you for your recent contribution to the [[Cookbook:Table of Contents|Wikibooks Cookbook]]! When adding to the Cookbook, please make sure all content conforms to [[Cookbook:Policy|Cookbook policy]], including the [[Cookbook:Manual of Style|manual of style]] and standard page templates. Feel free to let me know if you need any help or have any questions! {{#ifeq: |||<br>'''Additional details:''' }} | small = | smallimage = | smallimageright = | smalltext = }} —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 02:59, 29 June 2025 (UTC) :okay, thanks but may i ask if the one i created has errol or i should proceed [[User:Bamjos|Bamjos]] ([[User talk:Bamjos|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bamjos|contribs]]) 15:54, 29 June 2025 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Bamjos|Bamjos]]—all of the recipes you have added are incomplete because they do not match the cookbook's formatting policy. Before adding any new recipes, could you correct your existing recipes by making sure they fully conform to [[Cookbook:Policy/Recipe template]]? Thanks! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 17:19, 29 June 2025 (UTC) :::According to the policy , I dnt have issue with the cookbook I created, if there is any other areas you want me to improve on, you can state it . Thanks [[User:Bamjos|Bamjos]] ([[User talk:Bamjos|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bamjos|contribs]]) 16:42, 30 June 2025 (UTC) ::::Hi @[[User:Bamjos|Bamjos]]—the issues are as follows: ::::* Ingredients need to be linked to their corresponding cookbook page (if the page exists). ::::* You need to make sure the ingredients are listed in the order they appear in the procedure. ::::* You need to add [[Template:Recipe]] and [[Template:Recipe summary]] at the top of the page. ::::* You need to add all the appropriate categories at the bottom of the page. ::::* Some of the recipes mention ingredients in the procedure that are not in the ingredients list—this needs to be fixed. ::::* Some of the recipes seem to have incomplete procedures. ::::—[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 18:41, 1 July 2025 (UTC) hyx2jdauoev7syqralql5sd4k1vfcky Cereal Grains Through History 0 476138 4520902 4520684 2025-07-02T01:00:25Z JackBot 396820 Formatting, [[Special:UncategorizedPages]] 4520902 wikitext text/x-wiki This online book has been created to compile and discuss the importance of cereal grains through human history. This will be highlighted through the appearance of grain in art, sculptures, paintings, and architecture in many cultures. == Contents == === Africa === === Americas === {| class="wikitable" |+ ! ! ! ! |- |[[File:Wichita Indian village 1850-1875.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:History_of_agriculture#/media/File:Wichita_Indian_village_1850-1875.jpg|Lithograph of a Wichita Village, probably in Oklahoma (1850-1875 A.D., USA)]] | | |- |[[File:Song of the Lark Winslow Homer 1876FXD.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Winslow_Homer#/media/File:Song_of_the_Lark_Winslow_Homer_1876.jpeg|Song of the Lark (1876, USA)]] | | |- |[[File:Winslow Homer - The Reaper.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Winslow_Homer#/media/File:Winslow_Homer_-_The_Reaper.jpg|The Reaper (1878, USA)]] | | |- | | | | |} === China === {| class="wikitable" |+ ! ! ! ! |- |[[File:Song Dynasty Hydraulic Mill for Grain.JPG|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:History_of_agriculture#/media/File:Song_Dynasty_Hydraulic_Mill_for_Grain.JPG|Northern Song era Chinese watermill for dehusking grain with a horizontal waterwheel ((960–1127 A.D., China)]] | | |- | | | | |- | | | | |} === Egypt === {| class="wikitable" |+ ! ! ! ! |- |[[File:Slab stele from tomb of Itjer at Giza 4th Dynasty c 2500 BC.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:History_of_bread#/media/File:Slab_stele_from_tomb_of_Itjer_at_Giza_4th_Dynasty_c_2500_BC.jpg|Slab stele from mastaba tomb of Itjer at Giza (2435 B.C.E., Egypt)]] | | |- |[[File:Conical loaves of bread, Gebelein, 5th Dynasty c 2400 BC.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:History_of_bread#/media/File:Conical_loaves_of_bread,_Gebelein,_5th_Dynasty_c_2400_BC.jpg|Conical loaves of bread as laid out in the Great Tomb, North Necropolis, Gebelein, 5th Dynasty (Old Kingdom) (2305 B.C.E., Egypt)]] | | |- |[[File:Tomb of Nakht (2).jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:History_of_agriculture#/media/File:Tomb_of_Nakht_(2).jpg|Agricultural scenes of threshing, a grain store, harvesting with sickles, digging, tree-cutting and ploughing from tomb of Nakht (15th Century B.C.E., Egypt)]] | | |- |[[File:Stèle Mercenaire syrien 18ème dynastie Neues Museum image éclaircie et perspective corrigée.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Ancient_Egyptian_cuisine#/media/File:Stèle_Mercenaire_syrien_18ème_dynastie_Neues_Museum_image_éclaircie_et_perspective_corrigée.jpg|Painted limestone stela showing drinking beer by a straw (1300 B.C.E., Egypt)]] | | |- |[[File:Maler der Grabkammer des Sennudem 001.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Ancient_Egyptian_agriculture#/media/File:Maler_der_Grabkammer_des_Sennudem_001.jpg|Ploughing with cattle in ancient Egypt. Painting from the burial chamber of Sennedjem (1200 B.C.E., Egypt)]] | | |- |[[File:Modello con scena di panificazione F263 S13271.tif|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Ancient_Egyptian_cuisine#/media/File:Modello_con_scena_di_panificazione_F263_S13271.tif|Figures baking bread (2900 B.C.E., Egypt)]] | | |- |[[File:Ramses III bakery.svg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Ancient_Egyptian_cuisine#/media/File:Ramses_III_bakery.svg|Engraving of baking bread from tomb of Ramses, III (1155 B.C.E., Egypt)]] | | |} === Europe === {| class="wikitable" |+ ! ! ! |- |[[File:Peasants breaking bread.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:History_of_bread#/media/File:Peasants_breaking_bread.jpg|Peasants sharing bread, from the ''Livre du roi Modus et de la reine Ratio'' ''(14th Century A.D.'', France)]] | |- |[[File:Crescenzi calendar.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:History_of_agriculture#/media/File:Crescenzi_calendar.jpg|Agricultural calendar from a manuscript of Pietro de Crescenzi (1470, Bologna, Italy)]] | |- |[[File:Pieter Bruegel the Elder- The Harvesters - Google Art Project.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:History_of_agriculture#/media/File:Pieter_Bruegel_the_Elder-_The_Harvesters_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg|The Harvesters by Pieter Bruegel (1565 A.D., Belgium)]] | |- |[[File:Jethro Tull seed drill (1762).png|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:History_of_agriculture#/media/File:Jethro_Tull_seed_drill_(1762).png|Jethro Tull's seed drill, invented in 1701 (1765, England)]] | |- |[[File:Jean-François Millet - The Sower - Google Art Project.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Realism_(art_movement)#/media/File:Jean-François_Millet_-_The_Sower_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg|The Sower (1850, France)]] | |- |[[File:Jean-François Millet - Gleaners - Google Art Project 2.jpg|thumb]] |[[commons:File:Jean-François_Millet_-_Gleaners_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg|The Gleaners (1857, France)]] | |- |[[File:Ivan Shishkin - Рожь - Google Art Project.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Realism_(art_movement)#/media/File:Ivan_Shishkin_-_Рожь_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg|Rye Field (1878, Russia)]] | |- |[[File:Wheat-Field-with-Cypresses-(1889)-Vincent-van-Gogh-Met.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Wheat_Field_with_Cypresses#/media/File:Wheat-Field-with-Cypresses-(1889)-Vincent-van-Gogh-Met.jpg|Wheat Field with Cypesses (1889, France)]] | |- |[[File:Vincent van Gogh - Wheat Field with Cypresses (National Gallery version).jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Wheat_Field_with_Cypresses#/media/File:Vincent_van_Gogh_-_Wheat_Field_with_Cypresses_(National_Gallery_version).jpg|Wheat Field with Cypresses (1889, France)]] | |- |[[File:Van Gogh - Weizenfeld mit Zypressen4.jpeg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Wheat_Field_with_Cypresses#/media/File:Van_Gogh_-_Weizenfeld_mit_Zypressen4.jpeg|Wheat Field with Cypresses (1889, France)]] | |- |[[File:Korenveld met kraaien - s0149V1962 - Van Gogh Museum.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Wheatfield_with_Crows#/media/File:Korenveld_met_kraaien_-_s0149V1962_-_Van_Gogh_Museum.jpg|Wheat Field with Crows (1890, France)]] | |- |[[File:Vincent van Gogh - Wheatfield under thunderclouds - Google Art Project.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Wheatfield_with_Crows#/media/File:Vincent_van_Gogh_-_Wheatfield_Under_Thunderclouds_-_VGM_F778.jpg|Wheat Field under Thunderclouds (1890, France)]] | |- |[[File:Vincent van Gogh - The siesta (after Millet) - Google Art Project.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:The_Siesta_(Van_Gogh)#/media/File:Van_Gogh_-_la_Méridienne.jpg|La Méridienne (1891, France)]] | |} === Greece & Rome === {| class="wikitable" |+ ! ! ! ! |- |[[File:Noe 082.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:History_of_agriculture#/media/File:Noe_082.jpg|Barley was a symbol of wealth in the city of Metapontum in Magna Graecia (i.e. the Greek colonies of southern Italy), stamped stater (530–510 B.C.E., Greece)]] | | |- |[[File:Didrachme de l'île de Paros.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Demeter#/media/File:Didrachme_de_l'île_de_Paros.jpg|Demeter on a Didrachme from Paros island, struck at the Cyclades]] | | |- |[[File:Demeter Altemps Inv8546.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Demeter#/media/File:Demeter_Altemps_Inv8546.jpg|Demeter, goddess of grain]] | | |- |[[File:Eleusinian hydria Antikensammlung Berlin 1984.46 n2.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Demeter#/media/File:Eleusinian_hydria_Antikensammlung_Berlin_1984.46_n2.jpg|Demeter, enthroned and extending her hand in a benediction toward the kneeling Metaneira, who offers the triune wheat (c. 340 B.C.E.)]] | | |- |[[File:Roman copy of the Great Eleusinian relief hosted by the Metropolitan Museum of Art.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Demeter#/media/File:Roman_copy_of_the_Great_Eleusinian_relief_hosted_by_the_Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art.jpg|The Eleusinian trio: Persephone, Triptolemus and Demeter (Roman copy dating to the Early Imperial period and hosted by the Metropolitan Museum of Art, of the Great Eleusinian Reliefin the National Archaeological Museum, Athens, marble bas-relief from Eleusis, 440–430 B.C.E.)]] | | |- |[[File:NAMA 16346 Cornucopia.JPG|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Demeter#/media/File:NAMA_16346_Cornucopia.JPG|Plouton with a cornucopia and Demeter with a sceptre and plough. By the Orestes Painter. 440-430 B.C.E.]] | | |- |[[File:Attic white calyx crater, 440-430 BC, side B, AM Agrigento, 120965x.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Demeter#/media/File:Attic_white_calyx_crater,_440-430_BC,_side_B,_AM_Agrigento,_120965x.jpg|Two female figures, probably Demeter and Persephone. Attic white calyx crater 440-430 B.C.E.]] | | |- |[[File:Demeter figurine - Museo Archeologico Regionale - Agrigento - Italy 2015 (2).JPG|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Demeter#/media/File:Demeter_figurine_-_Museo_Archeologico_Regionale_-_Agrigento_-_Italy_2015_(2).JPG|Terracotta Demeter figurine, Sanctuary of the Underworld Divinities, Akragas, 550–500 B.C.E.]] | | |- |[[File:Marble Statue of Demeter.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Demeter#/media/File:Marble_Statue_of_Demeter.jpg|Demeter of Knidos, Hellenistic marble sculpture, around 350 B.C.E.]] | | |- |[[File:Saint Demetra.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Demeter#/media/File:Saint_Demetra.jpg|The statue of Saint Demetra, Fitzwilliam Museum]] | | |- |[[File:Kykladitisses exhibition in the Museum of Cycladic Art, Athens Greece 175.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Demeter#/media/File:Kykladitisses_exhibition_in_the_Museum_of_Cycladic_Art,_Athens_Greece_175.jpg|Terracotta plaque relief of Demeter in profile wearing ears of corn, 1st century BC–AD, Archaeological Museum of Amorgos, Greece.]] | | |- |[[File:Triptolemos Louvre G187.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Demeter#/media/File:Triptolemos_Louvre_G187.jpg|Triptolemus, Demeter and Persephone by the Triptolemos-painter, c. 470 B.C.E., Louvre]] | | |- |[[File:Villa Carmiano triclinio 2 (cropped).jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Demeter#/media/File:Villa_Carmiano_triclinio_2_(cropped).jpg|Dionysus (Bacchus) and Demeter (Ceres), antique fresco in Stabiae, 1st century]] | | |- | |[[wikipedia:Demeter#/media/File:Demeter_in_horse_chariot_w_daughter_kore_83d40m_wikiC_Tempio_Y_di_Selinunte_sec_VIa.JPG|Demeter drives her horse-drawn chariot containing her daughter Persephone-Kore at Selinunte, Sicily, 6th century BC.]] | | |- |[[File:Demeter, Mourner, marble relief, Knossos, 1st-2nd century AD, AMH, 145408.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Demeter#/media/File:Demeter,_Mourner,_marble_relief,_Knossos,_1st-2nd_century_AD,_AMH,_145408.jpg|Demeter in mourning, marble relief from Knossos, Archaeological Museum of Heraklion.]] | | |- |[[File:Demeter Altemps Inv8596.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Demeter#/media/File:Demeter_Altemps_Inv8596.jpg|Roman copy of 4th century BC Greek bust (National Roman Museum)]] | | |- |[[File:Plate 80- Ceres' Nymph Telling Famine to Strike Erysichthon (Insatiabili fame Erisichtonem torquet Fames), from Ovid's 'Metamorphoses' MET DP866521.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Demeter#/media/File:Plate_80-_Ceres'_Nymph_Telling_Famine_to_Strike_Erysichthon_(Insatiabili_fame_Erisichtonem_torquet_Fames),_from_Ovid's_'Metamorphoses'_MET_DP866521.jpg|''Demeter orders Famine to strike Erysichthon'', Elisha Whittelsey Collection]] | | |- |[[File:Склеп Деметры.JPG|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Demeter#/media/File:Склеп_Деметры.JPG|Demeter in an ancient Greek fresco from Panticapaeum, 1st century Crimea.]] | | |- |[[File:Head of statue of Demeter.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Demeter#/media/File:Head_of_statue_of_Demeter.jpg|Head of a statue of Demeter, marble, Roman imperial period, 2nd century CE]] | | |- |[[File:Statue of Demeter at the Academy of Athens on May 23, 2022.jpg|thumb]] |[[wikipedia:Demeter#/media/File:Statue_of_Demeter_at_the_Academy_of_Athens_on_May_23,_2022.jpg|Statue of Demeter by Leonidas Drosis in the façade of the Academy of Athens, Greece.]] | | |} === Indus River Valley === === Mesopotamia === === Middle East === {{shelves}} owaqxacbpg6ng7jc8yra714dnwg2557 Template:Limitation 10 476149 4520864 4520478 2025-07-01T20:46:14Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 added documentation page and parameters 4520864 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Limitation:''' {{{1}}} <noinclude> {{Documentation}} </noinclude> frppops78zmpzzbws3euqrdqj1mxusf 4520865 4520864 2025-07-01T20:47:09Z Codename Noreste 3441010 Removed a backwards space which causes the template to appear in a different font. 4520865 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Limitation:''' {{{1}}} <noinclude> {{Documentation}} </noinclude> nr2zflbenrhth8i484afwq6gdr20vvh Cookbook:Egusi Soup (melon soup) 102 476176 4520769 2025-07-01T12:18:09Z NiferO 3505520 Created a cookbook page 4520769 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Egusi''' '''Soup''' is a west African soup thickened with ground melon seeds (egusi) and typically include vegetables, meats, and various spices. == Ingredients == * 1KG or 2.2lb beef * cups of egusi (melon seed) * 1lb or 500g Roasted fish. * Half a cup of ground crayfish * a handful of sliced ugu (fluted pumpkin) leaves * 2 seasoning cubes * Salt to taste * Pepper to taste (scotch bonnet). * One medium-sized Stock fish head (okporoko) * 20g Dawadawa or opkei (local ingredients) == Equipment == * Large pot * Wooden spoon * blender * knifes and chopping bud for cutting vegetables * Measuring cups and spoons * Plates for serving == Procedure == # grind the egusi with dry blender and set them aside in a bowl. add about a cup of water to stir to make a thick paste. # parboil the meat with all the ingredients for about 10 minutes then add water and cook till the meat is soft , add seasoning cubes, salt to taste and sliced onions. # wash the stockfish with hot water also the roasted or smoked fishes wash in a bowl and set aside too. # set your cooking pot on fire and add red oil allow to hear for a minute, add the egusi paste and stir for about 8-10 minutes to form seed like crumbs then pour the already cooked meat into the pot and stir. # add the dry fish, stockfish, ground crayfish, seasoning cube, ground scotch bonnet pepper, and 2 cups of water then cover and allow to boil for the next 10 minutes. # stir occasionally to avoid burning, add 1 spoon of ground dawadawa (local ingredients) and a taste of salt and pepper. Add a handful of sliced ugu (pumpkin leaves) # allow to simmer on low heat for about 2 minutes stir and you can serve with eba (garri) or fufu. == Note, tips, and variations == * Ensure to turn occasionally so that it does not stick to the bottom of the pot to avoid burning. * Ensure to keep the heat on a low temperature once after adding the egusi paste * Add palm oil in a little large quantity cause it helps the soup not to get sour [[Category:Recipes for soup]] [[Category:Recipes using beef]] [[Category:Recipes using palm oil]] [[Category:African recipes]] p27jcxzbvjm837ap222xzdtnbf4zewr 4520770 4520769 2025-07-01T12:57:05Z NiferO 3505520 Edit and wiki link 4520770 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Egusi''' '''Soup''' is a west African soup thickened with ground melon seeds (egusi) and typically include vegetables, meats, and various spices. == Ingredients == * 1KG or 2.2lb [[Cookbook:Beef|beef]] * cups of egusi (melon seed) * 1lb or 500g Roasted fish. * Half a cup of ground crayfish * a handful of sliced ugu (fluted pumpkin) leaves * 2 seasoning cubes * Salt to taste * Pepper to taste (scotch bonnet). * One medium-sized Stock fish head (okporoko) * 20g Dawadawa or opkei (local ingredients) == Equipment == * Large pot * Wooden spoon * blender * knifes and chopping bud for cutting vegetables * Measuring cups and spoons * Plates for serving == Procedure == # grind the egusi with dry blender and set them aside in a bowl. add about a cup of water to stir to make a thick paste. # parboil the meat with all the ingredients for about 10 minutes then add water and cook till the meat is soft , add seasoning cubes, salt to taste and sliced onions. # wash the stockfish with hot water also the roasted or smoked fishes wash in a bowl and set aside too. # set your cooking pot on fire and add red oil allow to hear for a minute, add the egusi paste and stir for about 8-10 minutes to form seed like crumbs then pour the already cooked meat into the pot and stir. # add the dry fish, stockfish, ground crayfish, seasoning cube, ground scotch bonnet pepper, and 2 cups of water then cover and allow to boil for the next 10 minutes. # stir occasionally to avoid burning, add 1 spoon of ground dawadawa (local ingredients) and a taste of salt and pepper. Add a handful of sliced ugu (pumpkin leaves) # allow to simmer on low heat for about 2 minutes stir and you can serve with eba (garri) or fufu. == Note, tips, and variations == * Ensure to turn occasionally so that it does not stick to the bottom of the pot to avoid burning. * Ensure to keep the heat on a low temperature once after adding the egusi paste * Add palm oil in a little large quantity cause it helps the soup not to get sour [[Category:Recipes for soup]] [[Category:Recipes using beef]] [[Category:Recipes using palm oil]] [[Category:African recipes]] [[Category:Nigerian recipes]] [[Category:Recipes using meat]] [[Category:African cuisines]] t3dl48838nphy7shcjrznpw4w4nf234 4520773 4520770 2025-07-01T13:04:51Z NiferO 3505520 Wiki linked words 4520773 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Egusi''' '''Soup''' is a west African soup thickened with ground melon seeds (egusi) and typically include vegetables, meats, and various spices. == Ingredients == * 1KG or 2.2lb [[Cookbook:Beef|beef]] * cups of egusi (melon seed) * 1lb or 500g Roasted [[Cookbook:Fish|fish.]] * Half a cup of ground [[Cookbook:Crayfish|crayfish]] * a handful of sliced ugu (fluted pumpkin) leaves * 2 seasoning cubes * [[Cookbook:Salt|Salt]] to taste * Pepper to taste (scotch bonnet). * One medium-sized Stock fish head (okporoko) * 20g Dawadawa or opkei (local ingredients) == Equipment == * Large pot * Wooden spoon * blender * knifes and chopping bud for cutting [[Cookbook:Vegetable|vegetables]] * Measuring cups and spoons * Plates for serving == Procedure == # grind the egusi with dry blender and set them aside in a bowl. add about a cup of water to stir to make a thick paste. # parboil the [[Cookbook:Meat|meat]] with all the ingredients for about 10 minutes then add water and cook till the meat is soft , add seasoning cubes, salt to taste and sliced onions. # wash the stockfish with hot water also the roasted or smoked fishes wash in a bowl and set aside too. # set your cooking pot on fire and add red oil allow to hear for a minute, add the egusi paste and stir for about 8-10 minutes to form seed like crumbs then pour the already cooked meat into the pot and stir. # add the dry fish, stockfish, ground crayfish, seasoning cube, ground scotch bonnet pepper, and 2 cups of water then cover and allow to boil for the next 10 minutes. # stir occasionally to avoid burning, add 1 spoon of ground dawadawa (local ingredients) and a taste of salt and pepper. Add a handful of sliced ugu (pumpkin leaves) # allow to simmer on low heat for about 2 minutes stir and you can serve with eba (garri) or fufu. == Note, tips, and variations == * Ensure to turn occasionally so that it does not stick to the bottom of the pot to avoid burning. * Ensure to keep the heat on a low temperature once after adding the egusi paste * Add palm oil in a little large quantity cause it helps the soup not to get sour [[Category:Recipes for soup]] [[Category:Recipes using beef]] [[Category:Recipes using palm oil]] [[Category:African recipes]] [[Category:Nigerian recipes]] [[Category:Recipes using meat]] [[Category:African cuisines]] 6z9wggdhxk0ihn5owns31e5u3fsld60 4520829 4520773 2025-07-01T18:48:39Z Kittycataclysm 3371989 incomplete 4520829 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Incomplete recipe|reason=needs formatting and language corrections}} '''Egusi''' '''Soup''' is a west African soup thickened with ground melon seeds (egusi) and typically include vegetables, meats, and various spices. == Ingredients == * 1KG or 2.2lb [[Cookbook:Beef|beef]] * cups of egusi (melon seed) * 1lb or 500g Roasted [[Cookbook:Fish|fish.]] * Half a cup of ground [[Cookbook:Crayfish|crayfish]] * a handful of sliced ugu (fluted pumpkin) leaves * 2 seasoning cubes * [[Cookbook:Salt|Salt]] to taste * Pepper to taste (scotch bonnet). * One medium-sized Stock fish head (okporoko) * 20g Dawadawa or opkei (local ingredients) == Equipment == * Large pot * Wooden spoon * blender * knifes and chopping bud for cutting [[Cookbook:Vegetable|vegetables]] * Measuring cups and spoons * Plates for serving == Procedure == # grind the egusi with dry blender and set them aside in a bowl. add about a cup of water to stir to make a thick paste. # parboil the [[Cookbook:Meat|meat]] with all the ingredients for about 10 minutes then add water and cook till the meat is soft , add seasoning cubes, salt to taste and sliced onions. # wash the stockfish with hot water also the roasted or smoked fishes wash in a bowl and set aside too. # set your cooking pot on fire and add red oil allow to hear for a minute, add the egusi paste and stir for about 8-10 minutes to form seed like crumbs then pour the already cooked meat into the pot and stir. # add the dry fish, stockfish, ground crayfish, seasoning cube, ground scotch bonnet pepper, and 2 cups of water then cover and allow to boil for the next 10 minutes. # stir occasionally to avoid burning, add 1 spoon of ground dawadawa (local ingredients) and a taste of salt and pepper. Add a handful of sliced ugu (pumpkin leaves) # allow to simmer on low heat for about 2 minutes stir and you can serve with eba (garri) or fufu. == Note, tips, and variations == * Ensure to turn occasionally so that it does not stick to the bottom of the pot to avoid burning. * Ensure to keep the heat on a low temperature once after adding the egusi paste * Add palm oil in a little large quantity cause it helps the soup not to get sour [[Category:Recipes for soup]] [[Category:Recipes using beef]] [[Category:Recipes using palm oil]] [[Category:African recipes]] [[Category:Nigerian recipes]] [[Category:Recipes using meat]] [[Category:African cuisines]] 4m88msz5p1pnpqyiqtj4sswattf2rl7 Template:NOTE/doc 10 476178 4520804 2025-07-01T17:33:54Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 create 4520804 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Documentation subpage}} {{possible-risk}} <!-- Please add categories and interwikis to the bottom of this page, and also add interwikis to Wikidata. --> === Usage === start === See also === <includeonly> <!-- Categories and interwikis go here, and interwikis also go on Wikidata. --> </includeonly> 9n892leds511dtaolo5lcb4ybno6v80 4520806 4520804 2025-07-01T17:36:29Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 inserted text from main template 4520806 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Documentation subpage}} {{possible-risk}} <!-- Please add categories and interwikis to the bottom of this page, and also add interwikis to Wikidata. --> === Usage === Use: <pre>{{NOTE|note|Wikibookian}}</pre> *note - ''required'' - the text displayed inside the NOTE box. *Wikibookian - ''optional'' - The name of the Wikibookian that wrote the NOTE. 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This textbook transcends a simple collection of facts; it's meticulously crafted with a primary focus on building a strong foundation of fundamental concepts. The author understands that true mastery of organic chemistry hinges on a solid understanding of the underlying principles. The book therefore prioritizes clarity and accessibility, ensuring that each concept is explained in a way that is easily grasped by students. This approach is particularly beneficial for those who may find it challenging to translate complex scientific jargon from English. Beyond mere conceptual understanding, "Organic Reactions And Mechanism" aims to cultivate a robust problem-solving approach in its readers. The book recognizes that exams like NEET and IIT-JEE demand not just rote memorization, but the ability to apply knowledge in diverse and often complex scenarios. The content is structured to provide ample opportunities for students to practice and refine their problem-solving skills, ultimately leading to greater confidence and proficiency. To facilitate a seamless learning experience, the book adopts a systematic and organized structure. The content is thoughtfully divided into distinct chapters, each addressing a specific area of organic chemistry. These chapters cover essential topics such as: * Reactions: A comprehensive overview of various organic reactions, providing a solid foundation for understanding chemical transformations. * Reactivity and Mechanism: An in-depth exploration of reaction mechanisms, delving into the step-by-step processes that govern how reactions occur. * Radicals, Intermediates, and Their Functions: A detailed examination of reactive intermediates like radicals, and their crucial roles in chemical reactions. To further enhance understanding, the book employs a rich array of illustrative elements. Chemical reactions are presented with detailed elaborations and clear illustrations, making the abstract concepts more tangible and easier to visualize. This visual approach is particularly effective for retaining information and solidifying comprehension. In essence, "Organic Reactions And Mechanism" by Sudhir Nama is more than just a textbook; it's a carefully constructed educational tool designed to empower Hindi-medium students to conquer the complexities of organic chemistry. Its focus on conceptual clarity, problem-solving skills, and accessible presentation makes it an invaluable resource for anyone aiming to excel in their examinations. m07tc2tsagz02w618bcteid4mwsly11 4520825 4520808 2025-07-01T18:46:09Z Kittycataclysm 3371989 +templates 4520825 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Under construction}}{{New book}} == Organic Reactions And Mechanism == The landscape of organic chemistry can often feel vast and intimidating, particularly for students navigating the subject in a non-English medium. Recognizing this challenge, Sudhir Nama's "Organic Reactions And Mechanism" emerges as a vital resource, specifically designed to empower students preparing for crucial examinations such as their Board Exams, the National Eligibility cum Entrance Test (NEET), and the Indian Institutes of Technology-Joint Entrance Examination (IIT-JEE), all within the Hindi medium. This textbook transcends a simple collection of facts; it's meticulously crafted with a primary focus on building a strong foundation of fundamental concepts. The author understands that true mastery of organic chemistry hinges on a solid understanding of the underlying principles. The book therefore prioritizes clarity and accessibility, ensuring that each concept is explained in a way that is easily grasped by students. This approach is particularly beneficial for those who may find it challenging to translate complex scientific jargon from English. Beyond mere conceptual understanding, "Organic Reactions And Mechanism" aims to cultivate a robust problem-solving approach in its readers. The book recognizes that exams like NEET and IIT-JEE demand not just rote memorization, but the ability to apply knowledge in diverse and often complex scenarios. The content is structured to provide ample opportunities for students to practice and refine their problem-solving skills, ultimately leading to greater confidence and proficiency. To facilitate a seamless learning experience, the book adopts a systematic and organized structure. The content is thoughtfully divided into distinct chapters, each addressing a specific area of organic chemistry. These chapters cover essential topics such as: * Reactions: A comprehensive overview of various organic reactions, providing a solid foundation for understanding chemical transformations. * Reactivity and Mechanism: An in-depth exploration of reaction mechanisms, delving into the step-by-step processes that govern how reactions occur. * Radicals, Intermediates, and Their Functions: A detailed examination of reactive intermediates like radicals, and their crucial roles in chemical reactions. To further enhance understanding, the book employs a rich array of illustrative elements. 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Its focus on conceptual clarity, problem-solving skills, and accessible presentation makes it an invaluable resource for anyone aiming to excel in their examinations. n03qgucl938o0j9y9ir68r5quyp4073 Template:OSSpecific 10 476180 4520812 2025-07-01T18:08:26Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 create 4520812 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude> <templatedata> { "params": { "OS": { "description": "the name of the Operating System this note applies to", "example": "MacOS, Windows, Ubuntu, Linux", "type": "string", "suggestedvalues": [ "MacOS", "MacOS Big Sur", "CentOS", "Ubuntu", "Linux", "Windows 10", "Windows 11", "Windows", "MacOS Sonoma" ], "default": "Windows", "required": true }, "text": { "description": "the OS specific note for the reader", "type": "content", "required": true } }, "description": "inlcude a note about a feature or bug that is specific to an operating system", "format": "block" } </templatedata> </noinclude> pesrpk8yjay7ns601ffitlupowiv3jh 4520814 4520812 2025-07-01T18:09:53Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 adding docs page 4520814 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude> {{Documentation}} </noinclude> ltzf24yhonbtovmhn069rvcyx9c1gf7 4520820 4520814 2025-07-01T18:39:54Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 defined template 4520820 wikitext text/x-wiki '''ON {{{OS}}}''' : {{{text}}} <noinclude> {{Documentation}} </noinclude> 6c440w0dhmxogumqf7gpshajshu7np9 Template:OSSpecific/doc 10 476181 4520815 2025-07-01T18:14:05Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 documentation for the template 4520815 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Documentation subpage}} {{possible-risk}} <!-- Please add categories and interwikis to the bottom of this page, and also add interwikis to Wikidata. --> === Usage === <templatedata> { "params": { "OS": { "description": "the name of the Operating System this note applies to", "example": "MacOS, Windows, Ubuntu, Linux", "type": "string", "suggestedvalues": [ "MacOS", "MacOS Big Sur", "CentOS", "Ubuntu", "Linux", "Windows 10", "Windows 11", "Windows", "MacOS Sonoma" ], "default": "Windows", "required": true }, "text": { "description": "the OS specific note for the reader", "type": "content", "required": true } }, "description": "inlcude a note about a feature or bug that is specific to an operating system", "format": "block" } </templatedata> === See also === {{[[Template:NOTE|NOTE]]}}, {{[[Template:Technote|Technote]]}}, {{[[Template:XNote|XNote]]}} <includeonly> [[Category:Note templates|{{PAGENAME}}]] </includeonly> 7s83qfmr3u9vup9xut1kl1lf34vgf4s Chess Opening Theory/1. d4/1...Nf6/2. c4/2...g6/3. Nc3/3...Bg7/4. e4/4...d6/5. f3/5...O-O/6. Be3/6...c5 0 476182 4520818 2025-07-01T18:28:39Z 46.177.31.59 Created page with "{{Chess Opening Theory/Position|= |King's Indian Defence| |rd|nd|bd|qd| |rd|kd| |= |pd|pd| | |pd|pd|bd|pd|= | | | |pd| |nd|pd| |= | | |pd| | | | | |= | | |pl|pl|pl| | | |= | | |nl| |bl|pl| | |= |pl|pl| | | | |pl|pl|= |rl| | |ql|kl|bl|nl|rl|= || }} =King's Indian Defense, Sämisch Gambit= === 6...c5 === This surprising move is one of the biggest questions posed to white's choice of moving the pawn to f3. One of the m..." 4520818 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Chess Opening Theory/Position|= |King's Indian Defence| |rd|nd|bd|qd| |rd|kd| |= |pd|pd| | |pd|pd|bd|pd|= | | | |pd| |nd|pd| |= | | |pd| | | | | |= | | |pl|pl|pl| | | |= | | |nl| |bl|pl| | |= |pl|pl| | | | |pl|pl|= |rl| | |ql|kl|bl|nl|rl|= || }} =King's Indian Defense, Sämisch Gambit= === 6...c5 === This surprising move is one of the biggest questions posed to white's choice of moving the pawn to f3. One of the most interesting and studied gambits in all of chess, the Sämisch Gambit offers a free pawn on c5 to create wild tactical chaos against white's underdeveloped position. White has three main options, according to the masters and the lichess database: # Ignore the pawn break entirely, by developing another piece (Usually Nge2), # Immediately close the center, King's Indian style, with d5, # Or accept the gambit with dxc5 dxc5 Bxc5 The first and second options are probably the best for people who don't want to get into an absolute wilderness of a position. While you miss out on a "free pawn", you can still go ahead with your regular knowledge of the Sämisch, with minimal danger to follow, and as such, they won't be discussed here. The third option is possibly the most dangerous for both sides. After the pawn is accepted, black immediately brings both knights (Nc6, Ne5, ...) to attack the white king. White tries to either simplify the position or force black's attack to lose its initiative. Lines get extremely complicated after Bxc5, with the engine giving mixed opinions about the gambit. ==Theory table== {{Chess Opening Theory/Table}} '''1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f3 O-O 6. Be3 c5''' {{ChessStub}} {{ChessMid}} ==References== {{reflist}} {{Wikipedia|King's Indian Defence}} {{Chess Opening Theory/Footer}} {{BookCat}} q3wt4wmimthujeyi91medan7tkguslo User talk:NiferO 3 476183 4520828 2025-07-01T18:48:03Z Kittycataclysm 3371989 /* Welcome to the Cookbook */ new section 4520828 wikitext text/x-wiki == Welcome to the Cookbook == {{mbox | type = | image = [[File:Foodlogo2.svg|40px]] | imageright = | style = | textstyle = | text = Hello and thank you for your recent contribution to the [[Cookbook:Table of Contents|Wikibooks Cookbook]]! 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'''tempi''' in plural, is used in each game to calculate the '''developing moves''' in the [[../Basic Openings|opening]] or a measure of '''time.''' == Tempo in the opening == '''Tempi''' in the opening are related to the moves in the opening. === Gaining and losing tempi === ==== Gain of tempi ==== {{Chess diagram|= |tright | |= 8 |rd|nd|bd|qd|kd|bd|nd|rd|= 7 |pd|pd| |pd| |pd|pd|pd|= 6 | | |pd| | | | | |= 5 | | | | |pd| | | |= 4 | | | | |pl| | | |= 3 | | | |pl| |nd| | |= 2 |pl|pl|pl| | |pl|pl|pl|= 1 |rl|nl|bl|ql|kl|bl| |rl|= a b c d e f g h |Knight attacking a pawn}} You gain '''tempi''' when you '''attack a piece''' with a '''developing move''' and the opponent can not defend the piece with a developing move, so he loses '''tempi'''. ==== Loss of tempi ==== {{Chess diagram|= |tright | |= 8 |rd|nd|bd|qd|kd|bd| |rd|= 7 |pd|pd|pd|pd| |pd|pd|pd|= 6 | | | | | |nd| | |= 5 | | | | |pd| | | |= 4 | | | | |pl| |ql| |= 3 | | | | | | | | |= 2 |pl|pl|pl|pl| |pl|pl|pl|= 1 |rl|nl|bl| |kl|bl|nl|rl|= a b c d e f g h |Knight attacking the queen}} You lose '''tempi''' when your opponent attacks your piece with a '''developing movement''' and you cannot defend that piece with a developing movement, so you have to '''spend one tempo''' by '''retreating your piece''' or '''defending it ''(with a non developing move)'''''. nohjguqhaip826e5c5du8wc8546g470 4520832 4520831 2025-07-01T18:56:09Z 2804:14D:4082:9037:15DB:B596:1F28:6107 fixed knight 4520832 wikitext text/x-wiki == Tempo == A '''tempo''', or '''tempi''' in plural, is used in each game to calculate the '''developing moves''' in the [[../Basic Openings|opening]] or a measure of '''time.''' == Tempo in the opening == '''Tempi''' in the opening are related to the moves in the opening. === Gaining and losing tempi === ==== Gain of tempi ==== {{Chess diagram|= |tright | |= 8 |rd|nd|bd|qd|kd|bd|nd|rd|= 7 |pd|pd| |pd| |pd|pd|pd|= 6 | | |pd| | | | | |= 5 | | | | |pd| | | |= 4 | | | | |pl| | | |= 3 | | | |pl| |nl| | |= 2 |pl|pl|pl| | 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Tik Tok by Ke$ha mbvm21l5d7485c5yf2ux83vw8zesyzs Template:Limitation/doc 10 476189 4520866 2025-07-01T20:49:32Z VulcanWikiEdit 315727 create 4520866 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Documentation subpage}} === Usage === <templatedata> { "params": { "1": { "aliases": [ "text" ], "description": "a limitation must be highlighted to the reader", "type": "content", "required": true } }, "description": "to highlight a limitation to the reader", "format": "inline" } </templatedata> === See also === <includeonly> [[Category:Note templates|{{PAGENAME}}]] </includeonly> 5nikoihwv4ok13dj448ov4fknmr705e User talk:2603:8001:8701:8E03:DB11:BC7F:6EBD:91F0 3 476190 4520888 2025-07-01T22:56:53Z MathXplore 3097823 Notifying author of speedy deletion nomination 4520888 wikitext text/x-wiki == I have added a tag to a page you created == Hi! I'm MathXplore, and I recently reviewed your page, [[:Disneyland Presents: Grad Nite Explosion! Starring the Class of 2010 (Portions of Audio Included)]]. I have added a tag to the page, because it <strong>may meet the [[Wikibooks:Deletion policy#Speedy deletions|criteria for speedy deletion]].</strong> This means that it can be deleted at any time. The reason I provided was: <blockquote><strong>Out of scope</strong></blockquote> If you believe that your page should not be deleted, please post a message on [[Talk:Disneyland Presents: Grad Nite Explosion! Starring the Class of 2010 (Portions of Audio Included)|the page's talk page]] explaining why. <strong>If your reasoning is convincing, your page may be saved. </strong> If you have any questions or concerns, please [[User talk:JJPMaster|let me know]]. Thank you! [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 22:56, 1 July 2025 (UTC) dbk9vs8mnnjmbkaflkl98h3vzurj5he 4520891 4520888 2025-07-01T22:58:04Z MathXplore 3097823 Warning user with {{Test1}} 4520891 wikitext text/x-wiki == I have added a tag to a page you created == Hi! I'm MathXplore, and I recently reviewed your page, [[:Disneyland Presents: Grad Nite Explosion! Starring the Class of 2010 (Portions of Audio Included)]]. I have added a tag to the page, because it <strong>may meet the [[Wikibooks:Deletion policy#Speedy deletions|criteria for speedy deletion]].</strong> This means that it can be deleted at any time. The reason I provided was: <blockquote><strong>Out of scope</strong></blockquote> If you believe that your page should not be deleted, please post a message on [[Talk:Disneyland Presents: Grad Nite Explosion! 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Find a common location to add the link. // The 'p-personal' portlet often holds user links (e.g., talk, preferences). // Or 'p-navigation' for general navigation. const navTools = document.getElementById( 'p-navigation' ); // Or 'p-navigation' for the main sidebar if ( navTools ) { const ul = personalTools.querySelector( 'ul' ); if ( ul ) { ul.appendChild( listItem ); } } else { console.warn('Could not find #p-personal or #p-navigation to add custom link.'); } } ); c911q3i1ojt5v3mza35cg1ndqqru50t Wikibooks:Reading room/Proposals/2025/March 4 476193 4520919 2025-07-02T08:10:50Z ArchiverBot 1227662 Bot: Archiving 1 thread from [[Wikibooks:Reading room/Proposals]] 4520919 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talk archive}} == Clearer guidelines on donating copyrighted materials == I wasn't able to find specific guidelines on how to have copyrighted materials donated here, so I'm proposing that we import the contents [[w:Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials]] and [[w:Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission]] together either as page or as part of [[Wikibooks:Copyrights]]. Thoughts? —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 00:57, 31 December 2024 (UTC) :Linking to them is enough? [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 02:28, 31 December 2024 (UTC) ::Sorry, just to clarify: You're suggesting doing something like a soft redirect? Or, are you suggesting linking to those pages from [[Wikibooks:Copyrights]]? Thanks! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC) :::Linking from the copyright page on Wikibooks as some sort of "best practices". [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 03:16, 7 January 2025 (UTC) :[[Wikibooks:Book donations]] is yet a draft. [[User:Doostdar|Doostdar]] ([[User talk:Doostdar|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Doostdar|contribs]]) 22:36, 3 March 2025 (UTC) :[[Using Wikibooks/Donating a Book to Wikibooks]] seems to be a better guideline. [[User:Doostdar|Doostdar]] ([[User talk:Doostdar|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Doostdar|contribs]]) 22:39, 3 March 2025 (UTC) 1ikekef8r1x4o1pn7wnk7d1fp3obmiv User talk:2A06:5902:2404:B200:5D1A:6B99:DEF9:616E 3 476196 4520935 2025-07-02T11:47:31Z MathXplore 3097823 Notifying author of speedy deletion nomination 4520935 wikitext text/x-wiki == I have added a tag to a page you created == Hi! I'm MathXplore, and I recently reviewed your page, [[:I'm having trouble getting the filament sticking to my plate any suggestions]]. I have added a tag to the page, because it <strong>may meet the [[Wikibooks:Deletion policy#Speedy deletions|criteria for speedy deletion]].</strong> This means that it can be deleted at any time. 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I have added a tag to the page, because it <strong>may meet the [[Wikibooks:Deletion policy#Speedy deletions|criteria for speedy deletion]].</strong> This means that it can be deleted at any time. The reason I provided was: <blockquote><strong>Test page</strong></blockquote> If you believe that your page should not be deleted, please post a message on [[Talk:I&#39;m having trouble getting the filament sticking to my plate any suggestions|the page's talk page]] explaining why. <strong>If your reasoning is convincing, your page may be saved. </strong> If you have any questions or concerns, please [[User talk:JJPMaster|let me know]]. Thank you! [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 11:47, 2 July 2025 (UTC) == July 2025 == {{tmbox|type=notice|text='''Please, can you [[Using Wikibooks|help]] improve [[WB:WIW|Wikibooks]]''' by [[Special:Contributions/2A06:5902:2404:B200:5D1A:6B99:DEF9:616E|doing future experiments]] with the [[Help:Contents|wiki software]] in the [{{fullurl:Wikibooks:Sandbox|action=edit}} sandbox] instead? Your fellow contributors consider test edits in the sandbox constructive. You can ask questions or ask for help in the [[WB:HELP|Assistance Reading Room]].<br /> Thanks. }} [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 11:48, 2 July 2025 (UTC) a2p4gjv8yf7jfa1bmlmfmi9k7et63q2 User talk:102.90.103.4 3 476197 4520940 2025-07-02T11:58:53Z MathXplore 3097823 Warning user with {{Test1}} 4520940 wikitext text/x-wiki == July 2025 == {{tmbox|type=notice|text='''Please, can you [[Using Wikibooks|help]] improve [[WB:WIW|Wikibooks]]''' by [[Special:Contributions/102.90.103.4|doing future experiments]] with the [[Help:Contents|wiki software]] in the [{{fullurl:Wikibooks:Sandbox|action=edit}} sandbox] instead? Your fellow contributors consider test edits in the sandbox constructive. You can ask questions or ask for help in the [[WB:HELP|Assistance Reading Room]].<br /> Thanks. }} [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MathXplore|contribs]]) 11:58, 2 July 2025 (UTC) dy7fguwsfs2u16flhbri5knvhun1aib