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I have done [[:b:en:Wikibooks:Reading room/Proposals#Limit some namespaces on this project's FlaggedRevs extension?|a similar proposal]] months ago on English Wikibooks. Thoughts? [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 06:07, 5 January 2026 (UTC) : I like the idea. I'd like to see what other, more technical folks have to say before officially supporting it. We may also benefit from waiting until en.WB completes their change to see what issues they run into in the process. : We would need to organize a small project team to go through all templates and deal with unsighted changes before the config change, to ensure unsighted changes aren't either lost or auto-sighted, depending on how the process handles unsighted changes. : We also are waiting for the WMF Board to announce their decision on the recommendation to close all Wikinews. There would be no sense in doing the work if they are closing the project.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:23, 5 January 2026 (UTC) ::If there is a plan to migrate the wiki to new hosting, then any last minute changes would also be migrated. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:22, 5 January 2026 (UTC) :: Wikibooks has already done this. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 20:05, 5 January 2026 (UTC) :::Yeah and what was their motivation? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:24, 5 January 2026 (UTC) ::::On English Wikibooks, we wanted to limit FlaggedRevs to article content namespaces, and it worked, but not before we also had to implement <code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes = 0</code> too. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 19:09, 7 January 2026 (UTC) :::::I did not understand why. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:40, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::In the context of article content namespaces, that would be the mainspace, Cookbook, and Wikijunior. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:29, 23 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] In short, because otherwise banners like [[phab:F69801009]] would have been irremovably present on pages transcluding a template that (a) had once been reviewed, & (b) hadn't yet had its most recent version reviewed. This is probably a bug in FlaggedRevs itself ([[phab:T411328]]), but given the extension's [[phab:T185664|current maintenance situation]], I wouldn't personally expect it to necessarily be fixed anytime soon. (In case you're interested, I left a bit of a longer explanation on phab at [[phab:T408110#11370668]] & on en.wikibooks in [[b:en:special:gotocomment/c-A_smart_kitten-20251115215100-Codename_Noreste-20251115190500|this comment]].) Best, [[user:a smart kitten|a smart kitten]] ([[user talk:a smart kitten|talk]]) 13:04, 18 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::(Oh, I just realised that you might not have been asking about why enwikibooks also set <code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes</code> to <code>0</code>. Apologies if so :p) [[user:a smart kitten|a smart kitten]] ([[user talk:a smart kitten|talk]]) 13:05, 18 February 2026 (UTC) :Hi [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]], what is the motivation for these two proposed changes? What would they improve? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:21, 5 January 2026 (UTC) ::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], I replied above. I saw the [[Wikinews:Reviewing articles|article review policy]] about the following: {{tq|Please note that only users who have the reviewer permission should review and publish articles.}} Because of that, I think it would make sense to only limit FlaggedRevs to just the article namespace only. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 00:23, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::The current setup allows anyone to edit a template and it would only become visible on other pages after a reviewer approves the edit. So, the change that is being proposed, would make it harder for non-reviewer users to make minor changes to templates and other non-(Main) pages: instead of just clicking 'edit' they would need to go to talk page and request a change there. On the plus side however, it would relieve reviewers from ''that'' (non-Main) backlog. I am fine either way; I am neutral on this issue. If needed, I can help with the implementation of a change if it was desired. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:01, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::: {{tq|The current setup allows anyone to edit a template}} :::: This is not true. Many are edit-protected to one degree or another. For example, no one but administrators can edit [[Template:Source]] and only an admin+reviewer can sight the change. :::: {{tq|the change that is being proposed, would make it harder for non-reviewer users to make minor changes to templates'}} :::: Disabling Flagged Revs would not make it harder to make changes to templates. It would make changes immediately visible everywhere the template is transcluded. :::: {{tq|instead of just clicking 'edit' they would need to go to talk page and request a change there.'}} :::: What you are describing here is edit protection, not flagged revs. When templates use flagged revs, changes made by ''anyone'' must be sighted or approved by a reviewer. If the template is protected such as template:source to admin-only level, we need someone who is both reviewer ''and'' admin to make and sight the change. :::: {{tq|On the plus side however, it would relieve reviewers from ''that'' (non-Main) backlog.'}} :::: Removing flagged revs would reduce the number of changes that need to be approved, but currently only by 14%. The remaining 195 changes still need to be processed. :::: Removing flagged revs from templates will not only make it easier to maintain our templates, it will also reduce our risk if something should go wrong with the flagged revs.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:44, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::::1. OK, make it harder to edit ''some'' templates. (Not all are edit protected.) :::::2. It would make it harder for editing ''some'' templates - those that are not edit protected. :::::3. Not really interested in that scenario; interested in those that are not edit protected. Those that are edit protected, it is correct that they require an admin and a reviewer with current setup, and only a admin with proposed setup. But that was not the point that I was raising. :::::3a. Setting <pre>$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['review'] = true; //allow administrators to review revisions</pre> could be an option, if needed. A request would need to be made that sysops only work outside of main namespace, and possibly only with cosmetic edits to main namespace. That too would reduce reviewers backlog as they would not need to sight changes where a vandal did something and it was undone back identical to previous revision, or minor formatting and punctuation edits. :::::4. Ok, fine. By 14% is still helpful. :::::2, 4. It is not called "removing / disabling flaggedrevs", it is called "disabling flaggedrevs on namespaces that are not main". Removing it implies removing the extension from the wiki altogether, and is not a part of this proposal. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:38, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::::: {{tq|make it harder to edit ''some'' templates}} :::::: Disabling flagged revs in template space won't make it harder to edit ''any'' templates. It will allow for changes to be immediately transcluded, without requiring changes to be sighted (approved). :::::: Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are trying to say here. But since you are neutral on the change, maybe it also doesn't matter that I can't make sense of it.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:09, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::as I said earlier, if those templates that are under flaggedrevs control now will become protected, they will become harder for non-(privleged) users to edit. I am assuming that they will be protected. there was no consensus here on making them free for anyone to edit. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:07, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :* {{support}}: I do think it would be a better idea to limit it to the main namespace only. As I understand it, the primary focus of the Reviewers user group is to review and evaluate articles and publish them, along with related changes. This would certainly reduce the additional, less important pending changes burden in other namespaces. But, before implementing this as Michael.C.Wright suggests, all current non mainspace changes should be sighted first. Besides that, I do not currently have any other points against this in mind. :-- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:22, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::Pinging [[User:A smart kitten|A smart kitten]] to my FlaggedRevs proposal here, as they might know a little bit more about this extension than we do. I'll probably file a task for this today, given that some are in favor of this change. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 15:18, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::2 yes and 1 neutral. I would suggest wait a bit more before filing task. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:57, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::To be clear, I wouldn't say I'm an expert on FlaggedRevs by any means :p - I just know a bit that I looked into while working on [[phab:T408110]] :) :::I left a note re <code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes</code> [[#c-A_smart_kitten-20260218130400-Gryllida-20260111164000|above]], but feel free to ping me if there are any other questions about the proposal from a technical perspective. Best, [[user:a smart kitten|a smart kitten]] ([[user talk:a smart kitten|talk]]) 13:09, 18 February 2026 (UTC) : {{Support}} Since I didn't make that explicit...apologies. : I should have time later today to work through the pending changes to templates if someone doesn't get to them sooner.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:01, 17 February 2026 (UTC) : <strike>Aside from the one above waiting on [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]],</strike> we have all pending changes to templates done. I can keep an eye on them and sight them as a priority until we get the flagged revs disabled for template namespace.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:59, 17 February 2026 (UTC) : The Phabricator ticket for the request has been closed as 'resolved.'[https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418066] : I checked [[Template:Source]] and [[Template:Date]] to test, and verified that I no longer have the option to ''Submit changes'' as opposed to ''Save changes'' and there is no option to "Mark this version as reviewed" as expected if FlaggedRevs were disabled for templates. : I think we should leave this discussion open for a week or two longer, just in case we run across any issues. Thank you @[[User:Pppery|Pppery]], @[[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]], and @[[User:A smart kitten|A smart kitten]]![[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 00:23, 25 March 2026 (UTC) === Protecting templates === : I am working through the pending changes to templates now. I think it would be wise to protect all templates to 'auto-confirm' accounts as a minimum, not changing any existing protection levels. A lot of the pending changes so far include reverted vandalism (this is good, it is being found and reverted quickly). Many of the vandals are IP/temp accounts, which presumably haven't yet been auto-confirmed. : That could be a lot of tedious work to do up front, but may pay off in the long run. : Any thoughts/objections?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:35, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::Do you have a few examples? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:48, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::: Feel free to look through the edit history/recent changes. I was typically descriptive using 'vandalism undone.'[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:49, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::: I just hit this one, so here's an example: [[Template:TScope/ex/doc]]. ::: Feel free to take action on it.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:51, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::::Hi ::::Ah yes. Those were not edit protected, and anyone could edit them. For when nobody looking, that backlog is pretty tame... ::::#I personally would think that edit protect them makes sense only if the proposed change was to go ahead - ::::# but then, I would suggest to make them "reviewer or admin only" as is more similar to like the current setup, where the intent is for the edit to be checked by a privileged user. Relying on recent change patrolling may not work well on a small wiki that is news focused. ::::# In any case of protection I would suggest to work on making it easier to request an edit. Clicking "talk" and leaving a message is pretty hard For a newbie. ::::# Could the software show a banner at top of all edit protected pages with a big fat "request edit" button that takes to new section at talk with relevant "edit protected request" or whatever template already filled in with a space to describe proposed edit and reason. This banner should only show for users who do not have the privilege to edit the page. ::::# If needed i can write a js that protects page, places a banner at page top, and sights the edit. ::::- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:10, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::::: > ''I would suggest to make them "reviewer or admin only" as is more similar to like the current setup, where the intent is for the edit to be checked by a privileged user.'' ::::: We can't set "reviewer" as a level of protection. It's not available in the protection menu (I'm not sure if we can somehow enable it). ::::: Also, protecting to admin-only would put too much burden on a group that is already underserved and over-taxed. It is further frustrated by the fact that one of our two interface admins ([[User:Asked42|Asked42]]) is neither a reviewer nor an admin and therefore they would not be able make ''any'' changes to templates if we protected them all to reviewer (if we are able) or admin. ::::: A good portion of the changes I sighted were indeed made by Asked42. ::::: I think auto-confirmed as the minimum baseline, with some fully protected (as they already are) is a good compromise/happy medium.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:23, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::yes we can add a [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRestrictionLevels $wgRestrictionLevels], i guess 'sysop or reviewer or interface admin' could work [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:06, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::This would require initiating a separate proposal to add <code>editautoreviewprotected</code> as a protection level and user right (autoreviewed users, reviewers, and administrators). Protection for interface administrators is currently not possible, as regular administrators cannot edit site CSS/JS pages, or CSS and JS pages in any user's userspace (except for their own). [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 21:10, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::: Based on this, I think we should protect all templates to a minimum 'auto-confirmed' level, then increase it on an as-needed basis, with the understanding that over-protection impedes regular maintenance. <br>Protecting all templates to reviewer + admin is in my opinion overkill and prevents our single, active, interface admin from being able to make any changes to any templates. <br>Very few of our templates are used on published articles, which is arguably our most sensitive namespace as far as vandalism is concerned. <br>This also requires no changes be made to the overall config. <br>So to be clear, I would support the following (<del>assuming</del> <ins>I assume</ins> we also do it in the following order): :::::::: ::::::::* Protecting all templates to a minimum of auto-confirmed users ::::::::* Remove/disable flagged revs in the Template namespace :::::::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 23:01, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::that risks all sysops (who may be awol at times) missing an edit an autoconfirmed user made, whereas protecting would prevent this. i think on a small wiki it is better to reduce risk of an edit being made inadvertedly and then being missed. this is not wikipedia where good faith is assumed and infinite resources are available for post-edit page patrol. that would be a low activity backlog anyway seeing that you handled all pending revisions within less than a day - and they were accumulated over course of a few years i believed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:09, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::Whatever user right, it should be granted based on consensus or a sysop decision, not "this user was on wiki for 3 days therefore not spammer" (whatever that was named), in my view. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:22, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::: I {{oppose}} applying reviewer and/or admin-only protection to all templates. It will make general maintenance too difficult. <br>I {{support}} applying auto-confirm protection to all templates that are not currently protected, or:<br>I {{support}} not changing template protection broadly at this time. I don't think this decision should impede the original proposal since it was added later.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:11, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::I initiated [[phab:T418066]]. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 20:58, 21 February 2026 (UTC) ==== Options how to protect ==== For templates which are current in control by flagged revs, a reviewer has to sight an edit for it to be approved and become included in other pages. With the flagged revs being disabled for them. There is a need to make a decision what to do to prevent vandalism and other unwanted edits. * Option 1: do nothing; the templates become available for anyone to edit. Another user can undo that. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong; any user can monitor and undo. * Option 2: protect on 'auto-confirmed' level. Accounts with the 'autoconfirmed' privilege can edit. Another 'autoconfirmed' user can undo if needed. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong; an 'autoconfirmed' user or users need to check recent changes and monitor. This inconveniences users who are not 'autoconfirmed' because they havve to open a new section at talk page to request an edit. Work load on 'auto-confirmed' is increased because they have to monitor such requests and recent changes. * Option 3: protect on 'some new privilege name here' level. The privilege is given out to any user who was doing something constructive and is provided by request without needing to do a full vote. A vote may be held to remove it if needed or an admin can remove that privilege if it was misused. Another 'some new privilege name here' user can undo if needed. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong; an 'some new privilege name here' user or users need to check recent changes and monitor. This inconveniences users who are not a'some new privilege name here' because now they have to manually request new edits at the talk page. Work load on 'some new privilege name here' is increased because they have to monitor such requests and recent changes. * Option 4: protect on 'reviewer or sysop or interface admin' level. Accounts with 'reviewer or sysop or interface admin' privilege can edit, and another user with that privilege can undo if needed. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong, however, the pool of users was hand selected and voted on and the risk was reduced. This inconveniences users who are not a 'reviewer or sysop or interface admin' because now they have to manually request new edits at the talk page. Work load on 'reviewer or sysop or interface admin' is increased because they have to monitor such requests and recent changes. * Option 5: protect on 'sysop' level. Accounts with sysop (Administrator) privilege can edit, and another user with that privilege can undo if needed. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong, however, the pool of users was hand selected and voted on and the risk was reduced. This inconveniences users who are not a Administrator because now they have to manually request new edits at the talk page. Work load on 'Administrator' is increased because they have to monitor such requests and recent changes. Let me know if I missed something. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 03:01, 22 February 2026 (UTC) Comments and discussion * I have stronger support for 5 than 4 than 3 than 2. The amount of such changes made in template namespace was tiny and I propose to reduce load on 'contributors, users, reviewers, and interface admins', as they best work on news. Solving vandalism or 'hey lets change this because thats how i did it somewhere else and i thought that is good here' or 'i am confused' issues is a sysop job (ignoring that sysops have huge backlog because I am here and I don't even know that these tasks exist, but still. sysop handle mitigations of abuse and approvals of legit edits, in my view. I do not want to bring up question of sysop backlog size or lack of prior involvement in such issues before as it is not directly relevant to my argument). [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 02:50, 22 February 2026 (UTC) == Proposal to ban usage of AI at Wikinews == From [[Wikinews:Deletion_requests#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260107193100-Israeli_naval_ships_intercept_Gaza-bound_Global_Sumud_Flotilla]] there is a note from @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]] "I would even go so far as to propose that we block all AI articles on this wiki.". I agree with this proposal in short term. In long term I think it would be good to allow it after some reliable workflow is developed. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] may be interested in this discussion. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:51, 7 January 2026 (UTC) === Votes === * {{support}} noting this is for short term only and further effort could be undertaken to see what went wrong and how it could be addressed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:51, 7 January 2026 (UTC) *:I'm unsure about this right now [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:05, 7 January 2026 (UTC) *::{{oppose}} greatly, [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:21, 7 January 2026 (UTC) *::Hi @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] what would you think of requirement 'ai involved articles are in beta phrase, and are only allowed to be written for events which happened on first day of the month'? or some other random blanket rule that leads to effort managing ai generated content as a beta stage only and not every day. then maybe some understanding could be reached how to use ai more efficiently. please let me know, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:26, 11 January 2026 (UTC) *:::im just so used to using AI I personally enjoy it and I think it helps in some ways to news stories. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:27, 11 January 2026 (UTC) *:Yes, short term. When AI gets better or we have more manpower etc., we of course gonna use it. But not for now [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 04:45, 9 January 2026 (UTC) *::Hi @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], what would you think of requirement 'ai involved articles are in beta phrase, and are only allowed to be written for events which happened on first day of the month'? or some other random blanket rule that leads to effort managing ai generated content as a beta stage only and not every day. then maybe some understanding could be reached how to use ai more efficiently. please let me know, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:26, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * {{support}} a ban on AI generated news pieces. I'm not seeing how it provides value since anyone can ask AI to summarize a news article. Plus, the AI model appears to hallucinate and includes false information or bad sources, so it seems like it creates unnecessary work. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 21:55, 7 January 2026 (UTC) *: I used AI to help with the following published articles, for just a few examples: :: ::* [[U.S. strikes Iranian nuclear sites Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan overnight]] ::* [[NASA revises asteroid 2024 YR4 threat, near-zero chance of Earth impact]] ::* [[United States sends second aircraft carrier to Middle East, extends ''Truman'' deployment]] ::* [[Oregon court rules voter-approved gun law constitutional]] ::* [[US Navy Secretary nominee Phelan outlines readiness, cost-cutting reforms in Senate hearing]] :: :: I believe they all benefitted from it. I'm not saying they're perfect, but I think they benefitted from AI assistance. :: I also use it to check neutrality and balance during reviews and I find it's very helpful in that regard.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:59, 7 January 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]] what would you think of requirement 'ai involved articles are in beta phrase, and are only allowed to be written for events which happened on first day of the month'? or some other random blanket rule that leads to effort managing ai generated content as a beta stage only and not every day. then maybe some understanding could be reached how to use ai more efficiently. please let me know, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:27, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * {{oppose}} Each instance of AI hallucinations slipping through was either 1. A violation of [[WN:AI]] or 2. Should have been caught by the review process, or both. Maybe if we de-flagged reviewers after three AI slip-ups in published articles, we'd catch more of them sooner. <br>I think AI should be treated no different than a human editor. That means any hallucinations, which are simply inaccuracies or unsupported statements by another name, are catchable in the review process (but should be caught in the development process). I would imagine if we ban it, we will simply drive its use "underground." <br>And to be clear; I'm not advocating for AI-generated articles, but AI-assisted articles. <br>I'd prefer that we enforce the full and complete review process. Pseudo-reviews that skip the verification process predictably lead to more corrections and retractions.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:38, 7 January 2026 (UTC) ::I think we have yet to update [[Wikinews:The use of AI in generating content]] then approve it either as a policy or a guideline. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 22:41, 7 January 2026 (UTC) ::: I agree. The proposed guideline variously states that humans are responsible for the state of the article. ::: :::* "these drafts must always be critically reviewed and fact-checked by human contributors before submission." :::* "the final decisions on wording and style remain human-led." :::* "any interpretation or conclusions drawn must be reviewed by human contributors." :::* "The editorial process, including pre-reviews and final reviews, must always be carried out by human contributors." ::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:52, 7 January 2026 (UTC) ::::AI makes stuff up and this is quite dangerous. I asked it about a snow hazard in Switzerland and provided list of 3 sources; it told me the date 13 months off. If AI assistance is to be kept, I would suggest requiring that the author(s) provide a list of prompts to their AI tool on the talk page. This could help to improve quality of reports. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 02:09, 8 January 2026 (UTC) ::::: > ''AI makes stuff up and this is quite dangerous.'' ::::: However, those facts must be present in the listed sources to be included in our article. Bogus facts provided by AI won't be in the listed sources. <br>A full and complete review will catch that. That's how they were caught in both recent cases where a retraction was proposed. Someone read the article and tried to verify every statement against the sources.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 03:06, 8 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::I was told Grok AI gave information on underage kids pornography so strong delete@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:55, 8 January 2026 (UTC) :::::::https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/05/elon-musk-grok-ai-digitally-undress-images-of-women-children [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:58, 8 January 2026 (UTC) ::"Maybe if we de-flagged reviewers after three AI slip-ups in published articles, we'd catch more of them sooner." Should the authors be penalised in any way, if they repeatedly fail to catch AI's hallucinations? I'd like to know your opinion on this, @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:20, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::: Authors are responsible for accuracy. But reviewers bear final accountability for published content because review is a permission granted by the community to publish on its behalf. In these cases, the failure was not the existence of errors, but their approval through incomplete review.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:56, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::::Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ::::1. I ask to approach both reviewer and author in these cases as they both need to change their approach to ensure issues don't happen again and again. I asked you and you said 'Yeah, except reviewers were elected.' Yeah, sure, but my point still stands. I'm speaking of both. ::::2. Doesn't answer my question how to handle users who repeatedly insert same kind of issues into articles. That is not even always visible as the review feedback of failed articles gets deleted along with their talk page. I try to at least post a copy of it onto talk page via 'custom message' feature of ezpr2. Make that an official policy, would you? I'm sure you would be interested in this as it would allow to keep track of issues in articles submitted by that user in one spot, and provide a path towards figuring out why they happen and how to solve them, and improve 'article quality'. ::::3. And the same could go to posting feedback to a reviewer's talk page about post-publish retractions etc. I believe I didn't even ''get'' a talk page message about that retraction request; yet I did get an insinuation here. The note that a particular reviewer is being dodgy sits in your mind and doesn't sit on their talk page. I think that's inefficient. The concern about your mentioning of de-flagging lies in unnecessary escalation; the general civil thing to do has been to leave a message at a talk page before taking further action. ::::Hope it helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:14, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] see [[:w:Hallucination (artificial intelligence)]] for your reference in case you didn't know, regards [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:28, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::: Since hallucinations are inaccuracies, they won't be in the linked sources. So a full and proper [[WN:REV]] would catch them. Just as they were caught in the previously mentioned articles ''once a full and proper review was performed.'' ::: <blockquote>The reviewer should check that all information in the article is fully sourced,</blockquote> ::: Seems like we already have the solution; perform full and proper reviews.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:21, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::::Seems like incomplete solution since users don't fix anything fast. I have seen it tried for 15 years. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:50, 11 January 2026 (UTC) *<s>{{Support}}</s>I don't think we are on the right side of history. But current experience shows that editers and reviewers can not determine if theres any content in an AI generated article. And we "cannot edit after it published", so no remedies can be made. I also believe we should issue an announcement after disabling AI, which would show that we are a responsible media outlet. Of course, I maintain the stance discussed earlier that, ideally, editors should consciously strive to discern, and reviewers should ensure everything meets the standards, such as accuracy. If the review process can achieve this, it doesn't matter whether the article is written by a human, Shakespeare's monkey, or AI, nor is explicit labeling necessary, because we ultimately get a good article. I'm not saying people can't achieve this, but it requires too much effort, which is clearly not cost-effective. And if we implement policies similar to this now instead of banning AI, it will lead to situations where submissions written with AI cannot be published due to insufficient and timely review, which is obviously not in our favor. I apologize for the mistakes in an article I participated in editing. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 04:03, 9 January 2026 (UTC) : > ''editers and reviewers can not determine if theres any content in an AI generated article.''<br>If that were true, how was it identified for the proposed retraction?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:32, 9 January 2026 (UTC) ::I'm just coming to this now and have no idea what this question is asking. Is there some background somewhere about a proposed retraction that isn't immediately clear in this thread? What is that phrase referring to? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 04:13, 10 January 2026 (UTC) :::Yes, the proposed deletion linked in the first sentence of this section. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:19, 11 January 2026 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] fyi :::* for last few months now, partly due to my medical issues and partly due to my preference, i have been publishing articles checking only the basics (5Ws and H) and not checking each sentence thoroughly. i read through sources and ensure that what i have read does not have serious npov issues or contradictions that immediately strike my mind, but don't check fully. :::* i believe @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] has made it clear that he is here to uphold the standards to highest thresholds and now this is taking the form of him doing a full review of an article at time of archival. i disagree with this approach as i think it is taking away his valuable time from reviewing stories which are actually fresh. i do not believe anyone ever did a full review of an article at time of archival. this process previously only involved checking for red links, issues anyone previously flagged at a talk page, etc. :::* this in some cases results in him finding a full bucket of issues that he does not wish to write a 'correction' for because it would require a complete article rewrite. as i am one of the active (and lazy) reviewers here i should normally reply to these requests but i lack the energy to do this as my current state for last few months results in my energy levels being extremely low, at around 40% of what an average person has got. cause is unknown. :::* yet i keep reviewing articles and keep ignoring these requests to retract articles because it is even harder to reply to those than to one full review in the first place (need to articulate why some of the points being nitpicked were utter bullshit, as i find that i do disagree with some of them). :::* this leads to me becoming more exhausted and circles back to me not participating properly :::* there is an ondoing discussion of it in [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#Proposed change to review process by Gryllida Version 202512|this section (on the very same 'proposals' subpage of water cooler)]] :::hope this helps you to get an idea of the situation at least qualitatively. :::regards [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:36, 11 January 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], i liked that thought, that catching AI hallucinations is time consuming and may lead to delays in publishing. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:25, 11 January 2026 (UTC) : {{q|[A]t the time of publication, a news article must be solidly fact-checked and as objective as possible.|30px|30px|[[m:Wikinews|''Wikinews''' mission statement at Meta]]}} : To make sure I understand the position being advanced here, I see the following claims and implications: : :* That, for an extended period[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:Competitive_local_elections_held_in_England#Review_of_revision_4855230_%5BNot_ready%5D], reviews have been intentionally conducted without full verification, despite policy requiring it. :* That multiple proposals have been made to relax or redefine review expectations[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance/archives/2024/November#c-Gryllida-20241020021900-Michael.C.Wright-20241014152800],[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2025/June#'5W_Brief'_format] to align with this reduced, 5W-only level of scrutiny, but without community consensus. :* That, following retractions triggered by full verification after publication, the proposed remedy is to restrict or ban AI use rather than to restore compliance with existing review standards. :* That AI-assisted content is treated as uniquely suspect, while comparable human errors from incomplete review are framed as understandable due to fatigue. :* That thorough verification during review is characterized as counterproductive because it increases post-publication workload, rather than being recognized as work that belongs in the review process. : : I disagree with those priorities. : You previously articulated the risk clearly yourself, noting that becoming more liberal in approvals in order to increase output is “disastrous,”[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#c-Gryllida-2013-08-28T21:28:00.000Z-Wikiwide-2013-08-28T12:57:00.000Z] and that pursuing readership through speed leads to biased, lower-quality journalism. That analysis remains sound and is manifest here in the number of resultant retractions. : Applying full verification after publication did create additional work, but only because required checks were knowingly deferred during review. The remedy is not to restrict tools, but to align review practice with policy. : The underlying issue is not that policy was followed, but that it was repeatedly and unilaterally dismissed.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:42, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::This is too long, but I will answer each point anyway. ::* That, for an extended period[4], reviews have been intentionally conducted without full verification, despite policy requiring it. ::** Yes. I try to do full verification to a degree, but not to each letter. The motivation here is to verify key details and publish while article is still fresh. ::* That multiple proposals have been made to relax or redefine review expectations[5],[6] to align with this reduced, 5W-only level of scrutiny, but without community consensus. ::** That discussion is still open. ::* That, following retractions triggered by full verification after publication, the proposed remedy is to restrict or ban AI use rather than to restore compliance with existing review standards. ::** This is an overloaded sentence for me. For once, it's not only 'review' standards at the plate, it's also the 'write up' standards on the plate. ::* That AI-assisted content is treated as uniquely suspect, while comparable human errors from incomplete review are framed as understandable due to fatigue. ::** I do not know where this came from; please try phrasing it again. I lack resource to attempt to read this more than once. ::* That thorough verification during review is characterized as counterproductive because it increases post-publication workload, rather than being recognized as work that belongs in the review process. ::** I do not know where this came from; please try phrasing it again. I lack resource to attempt to read this more than once. ::* Pursuing readership through speed leads to biased, lower-quality journalism ::** I do not care about readership. I do not know why you think I care of ''that''. ::* "Applying full verification after publication did create additional work, but only because required checks were knowingly deferred during review. The remedy is not to restrict tools, but to align review practice with policy." is missing a 'In my view' note. ::* "The underlying issue is not that policy was followed, but that it was repeatedly and unilaterally dismissed." ::** I do not agree with this statement. I do not think the current policy requires 100% coverage of fact check. ::Hope this helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:57, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::: > ''I do not think the current policy requires 100% coverage of fact check.'' ::: It is explicit: "The reviewer should check that all information in the article is fully sourced..." ::: It's been a part of the policy since its inception, [[Special:Diff/672352|eighteen years ago]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:04, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::::Thanks for that. Posted below. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:35, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::{{Comment}} My understanding is that, for a fair amount of time: ::* There has been a lack of humans, writing articles, editing articles and reviewing them, making it difficult to publish even one article a week; ::* That for a fair amount of articles "written" with usage of AI, the quality problems were significant - not only in style of writing, but even in "facts" mentioned in the article; ::* That we currently have a tool to discourage blatant plagiarism from sources - which therefore encourages "lazy" (or tired, or whatever) contributors to use AI as text generator; ::* AI assisted content is not treated as uniquely suspect. Rather, where text is written by humans, humans are much less likely to generate hallucinations, and much more likely to follow guidelines for writing articles. AI assisted content doesn't know Wikinews guidelines, and even if it were provided with them, it would still be likely to hallucinate; ::The proposals in this thread have included: ::* Temporarily banning AI usage for writing of text in Wikinews articles - which I tend to agree with, though I would prefer a constructive discussion on positive and negative examples of AI generated contributions to Wikinews; ::* Removing reviewer duties from people who have missed AI hallucinations in articles they have published - which I absolutely disagree with. We need more people in Wikinews, not less. ::I would like to add the following proposals: ::* Possibly, add a tool to detect AI hallucinations - numbers (10 or ten or dozens - format doesn't matter), places, people which are not mentioned in the sources; ::* Or even better, write a Wikinews-specific (AI-powered? I don't like AI, but if you do, go ahead, contribute to development and testing) tool to generate text based on the provided links to sources; ::* Remember that having duties of being a reviewer doesn't deprive you of rights of being an editor. If an article needs improvement and editors are not showing up, feel free to improve it yourself - with caveat that you will have to find another reviewer to publish it afterwards. ::Reviewers don't have to be perfect. Reviewers need to be there, active and helping. But they don't have to be perfect. They just have to do their best. And discouraging writers and reviewers, penalizing them for their mistakes, can kill the project. This isn't school where kids have to go, whether they want to or not. This is a project based on volunteers. So instead of wasting their time with these heated opinionated threads and further dividing the community, get out there and do what you can. /AI will not write Wikinews for us./ [[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] ([[User talk:Wikiwide|talk]]) 07:48, 12 January 2026 (UTC) ::: > ''Reviewers don't have to be perfect. Reviewers need to be there, active and helping. But they don't have to be perfect. They just have to do their best.'' :::: We hold contributors accountable under our policies and guidelines, and the same applies to reviewers. '''Publishing inaccurate, biased, or plagiarized content due to incomplete review should not be acceptable.''' Reviewers volunteer for the role with an understanding of its requirements. Unilaterally choosing to disregard core policy for convenience undermines that responsibility, creates more work for others, and damages the project's reputation. ::: ::: :::: If reviewers knowingly accept inaccuracies, bias, or plagiarism for reasons of convenience, it raises a fundamental question about the purpose of the reviewer role itself. The review function exists precisely to prevent those failures, not to normalize them. ::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:49, 12 January 2026 (UTC) ::: > ''Removing reviewer duties from people who have missed AI hallucinations''<br>That was not proposed. I forwarded a thought experiment by saying "'''Maybe''' [emphasis added] if we de-flagged reviewers after three AI slip-ups in published articles, we'd catch more of them sooner."<br>There used to be the notion of "easy-come, easy-go" for the reviewer bit. There is a very brief discussion [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2010/June#%7B%7BUser Wikinews reviewer%7D%7D|here]] between Pi zero and Brian McNeil, two contributors who were instrumental in developing the modern review process. That discussion illustrates the level of attention to detail they hoped for from reviewers. Our current policies and guidelines still largely reflect that expectation. <br>My point is that this is not the way to go about policy change. What has occurred is one reviewer has unilaterally disregarded policy for personal convenience (as stated), and that has resulted in the publication of inaccuracies, bias, and/or plagiarism. <br>If [[WN:IAR]] is used as a justification (and it has not been, so far), even that requires the action to ''improve'' the project.<br>Reviewing as if a policy change has occurred, when it has not, predictably increases post-publication errors and workload. It then becomes circular to cite those downstream burdens as justification for lowering the standard that would have prevented them.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:42, 12 January 2026 (UTC) ::::I don't think there was disregard from one reviewer, that's why I opened RFC below. I believe that doing 100% verification was not common practice. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:04, 12 January 2026 (UTC) :::::Do we have consensus? @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:58, 12 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::Not before a few other contributors weigh in. This may take a few weeks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:58, 18 January 2026 (UTC) *{{support}} At this time. Let's see what the future holds, though. Maybe let's revisit this next year?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:19, 29 January 2026 (UTC) *'''Support''' a ban on unsupervised use of genAI for article creation or expansion, {{Oppose}} a blanket ban. Part of why I oppose the "nuclear option" is because it's nearly impossible to definitively know whether a certain sentence was purely AI-generated or merely the signature of a more formal human writing. As long as it's used responsibly, genAI can be a very handy tool for writing [[WN:Breaking news|breaking news articles]], seeking feedback on the quality of an almost complete article, correcting the grammar, translating content, and other purposes. For example, when I wrote "[[Bangladeshi interim leader Muhammad Yunus returns home after four-day visit to London]]" and "[https://web.archive.org/web/20250707221334/https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Australia%27s_truth_commission_finds_genocide_against_Aboriginal_Victorians,_suggests_practical_remedies Australia's truth commission finds genocide against Aboriginal Victorians, suggests practical remedies]" (which was [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=delete&user=&page=Australia%27s+truth+commission+finds+genocide+against+Aboriginal+Victorians%2C+suggests+practical+remedies&excludetempacct=1&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist deleted] due to staleness), I asked ChatGPT very simple prompts such as "Please assess that article" and "Is my article good?", and it gave me some rather useful advice (in retrospect, I admit that I should perhaps have disclosed it on the talk pages). Of course, it's a double-edged sword, and I discarded the recommendations which seemed very nitpicky or would run against P&Gs such as [[WN:NPOV|NPOV]]. I think a responsible (if imperfect) approach would be to give a hard "Not Ready" verdict on articles that look entirely AI-generated from the beginning to the end, grant a bit of leeway for those where only a specific section or paragraph is AI-generated, add one or more sections at [[Help:AI]] for guidance on rewriting these sorts of articles, and direct contributors to both that help page and [[WN:The use of AI in generating content]]. [[User:Redireditor|<span style="color:#6C2E92">Redir</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Redireditor|<span style="color:#1245BC">editor</span>]] ('''[[User talk:Redireditor|talk]]''') 01:36, 18 February 2026 (UTC) {{comment}} In light of a recent [[User talk:Michael.C.Wright#c-Gryllida-20260224194500-BigKrow-20260224180300|suggestion to use AI tools to evaluate or fact-check AI-generated material]], and a [[Talk:Moreton Bay illegally evicted homeless campers, Queensland Supreme Court rules#AI usage declaration|recent declaration of AI use in generating a published article]], it would be helpful to clarify the scope of this proposal. If the use of AI in some capacity is considered acceptable by the original poster, then the concern being addressed here may be narrower than originally framed. If that is the case, should the proposal be revised or withdrawn so the discussion reflects that distinction more clearly? [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 02:36, 10 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that clarification is needed. AI can be used for many things while writing an article without actually creating the wikinews-authored article text itself. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:28, 4 April 2026 (UTC) === Consensus assessment and possible next steps === My read of the consensus to this point is: * Support: 3 * Oppose: 2 * Support Retracted: 1 * No stated position: 3 Support remains conditional and temporary in framing, not a blanket permanent ban. With only one-vote separation and multiple participants explicitly calling for further discussion, this still does not meet a strong consensus threshold. The thread shows more agreement on process deficiencies (review standards, workload) than on prohibition itself. Based on that, and keeping in mind that consensus is not determined by simple vote totals but by working toward a solution that reasonably addresses the main concerns raised on all sides, I suggest the following be considered for further community discussion: * Transition [[WN:AI]] from a draft guideline into a proposed policy, so its requirements and enforcement expectations are clearer. * We carefully monitor AI usage to ensure it is 1. transparent, 2. accurate, 3. NPOV. See [[:Category:AI usage declared]] as just one tool towards this end. * For a limited trial period (for example, three months), apply a standardized disclosure notice on newly published articles that involve AI assistance. (<del>someone else</del> <ins>[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]</ins> proposed this elsewhere[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals/archives/2025/November#Thinking_-_asking_-_wondering]). See [[:Template:AI disclosure]] as a proposed draft. * Reassess outcomes after the trial period to determine whether current practices are improving article quality and review reliability. Comments welcome on whether this approach reasonably addresses the concerns raised so far.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:05, 30 January 2026 (UTC) :Agreed. Works for me. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:26, 10 March 2026 (UTC) : I have tweaked [[WN:AI]] to reflect that it is a proposed policy rather than a proposed guideline. : If we are considering a reader-facing disclaimer placed directly on articles, as I understand [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals/archives/2025/November#c-Bddpaux-20251104213100-Thinking_-asking-_wondering|this suggestion]], I think it should first have clear and explicit consensus. : Please comment below indicating {{tl|support}} or {{tl|oppose}} for '''using [[Template:AI disclosure]] directly on articles for a three-month trial period'''. You may also provide specific suggestions regarding the reader-facing template. If opposing, please include a brief rationale.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:58, 26 March 2026 (UTC) ::I did not understand what change is proposed. I am already following that linked guideline and the software is already prompting to declare AI usage at submission. What would "support" change here? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:07, 27 March 2026 (UTC) : An interesting read at Slashdot, that may be informative to this discussion: [https://news.slashdot.org/story/26/04/05/2119210/will-ai-assisted-journalists-bring-errors-and-retractions Will 'AI-Assisted' Journalists Bring Errors and Retractions?]. Original article is [https://www.msn.com/en-us/technology/artificial-intelligence/an-ai-upheaval-is-coming-for-media-this-journalist-is-already-all-in/ar-AA1ZuM7j here].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 11:00, 6 April 2026 (UTC) == RfC from reviewers: verifiability policy == {{flag}} The current verifiability policy states "''The reviewer should check that all information in the article is fully sourced''". In a discussion above, [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] noted that this requires checking each piece in the published article to the letter. So for example the way I understood it from above discussion, publishing an article with note 'A bus crashed, it carried 45 customers.' with a lot of other newsy information such as 5Ws, H, a driver was drunk, driver survived with one leg injury, etc other details, would require reviewer checking everything; according to this interpretation, just checking everything else while ignoring that piece of detail about '45' (and hence risking it will be published with incorrect number) would be against the current policy. This is purposefully a bit exaggerated example to get my point across. From time to time Michael.C.Wright picked up some more serious issues in my reviews, for example one article I didn't run in copyvio check, and then he went and put a dozen of issues which weren't adequately verified or attributed or some other thing, that I am yet to look at when I am slightly less busy hopefully towards the end of this week, and proposed a retraction. That retraction discussion link is located in first sentence of the above proposal to ban AI usage at ''Wikinews''. I don't believe this is realistic to expect a reviewer to check 100% of the content in an article unless someone is hired to do such extensive reviews and another user is hired to implement the requested changes quickly (a total of 2 users hired). I believe that requiring full review will delay reviews as they are simply more time consuming for the reviewer; and this will also delay publishing because a long list of issues will be presented to an author, and an author will take longer to address them. I proposed earlier, for example, that only the 5W and H, and plagiarism, should be checked, and potentially NPOV next on the list, but I expect that checking article to the last letter of each sentence is not required. For example being satisfied that around 70% of the article was confirmed in the sources could be sufficient to publish it. I am seeking comment from each reviewer about this. Please type it into below if you do not mind. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) === Comments from reviewers === This section is just for reviewers to say how they are doing reviews or how they think they should be done, whether they should be '100% verification coverage', etc. When posting this I wanted it just to see what each reviewer is doing currently about this. It is not intended for discussion just to see the current status. Then, further down the page, this section is then followed by another section for discussion. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Acagastya|Acagastya]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Chaetodipus|Chaetodipus]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Cromium|Cromium]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ** As noted above, I would be satisfied if 5W and H was verified and ''majority'' of the article, not necessarily 100% of the article. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:RockerballAustralia|RockerballAustralia]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:SVTCobra|SVTCobra]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:ShakataGaNai|ShakataGaNai]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Tom Morris|Tom Morris]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Tyrol5|Tyrol5]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) === General discussion === General discussion. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) :[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], not sure you are the best to do this but maybe you know someone who does: need to contact each reviewer off wiki asking to comment here and to advise when available for audio call as i think that is the only way to reconnect reviewers, by having a call at least once each three months. I scream in pain as this software does not have a calendar nor a doodle built into it and I am lost. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:42, 16 January 2026 (UTC) ::Noting I tried EmailUser and had no response. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:43, 16 January 2026 (UTC) === General discussion point 2: recent change === :''For a related discussion, see [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance#Clarification about post publish and post archive edits|Clarification about post publish and post archive edits]]'' *{{comment}} I feel that what [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] is doing, by cross checking the work of other reviewers at time of archival (or insert some other 'eternity later' description here), and by flagging all possible issues that were missed as part of review, undermines two types of relationships: author to reviewer, and reviewer to reviewer. While both of these could be blamed on the reviewer who approved the story that was later scrutinized, I do not find this approach particularly fruitful for the quality of news output nor for the integrity of the project as a whole. I am seeking comment from everyone about this matter. In my opinion lowering the tolerance to omissions, as long as it does not land into plagiarism or substantial bias territory, was previously allowed and the level of cross check in the last year has unnecessarily -- and without a consultation -- increased, putting unnecessary burden on involved authors and other reviewers. I request that this workflow comes back to what it was previously. Thanks for your attention to this sentiment, and I hope to see your comments about it soon. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:00, 9 February 2026 (UTC) *:cc @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]], please reply now and tag 3 other users who weren't tagged previously, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:01, 9 February 2026 (UTC) *::There's quite a bit here and I'm not sure which three other users would even see this conversation who weren't already pinged. I can see some value in checking articles at the time of archiving to see if the process was followed optimally and maybe tagging the talk page somehow. This is more-or-less equivalent to how some proper news organizations operate, where they review their own published works and issue retractions, make corrections, etc. (it was only two days ago that I saw my feed for ''Mother Jones'' retract a story that they couldn't verify). So I agree in principle that it's worth us having an author-to-reviewer relationship that works at the time of publication and then if someone is motivated, an archiver-to-reviewer relationship. What that looks like may be an open question. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 08:59, 9 February 2026 (UTC) *:::Hey @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] My question is whether you have noticed review standards got tougher than usual in the last year? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:28, 9 February 2026 (UTC) *::::Good question, but that is not something that I have personally experienced. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 20:27, 9 February 2026 (UTC) *:::::Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 09:54, 10 February 2026 (UTC) *:::::Would you say there has been more discussions about review quality recently, than before? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 09:55, 10 February 2026 (UTC) == News schedule == Hello context * some radio have news highlight every day from 8am to 815am, and * some youtubers have $whatever new upload every week on Tuesday at noon local time. For example. As a result, Fans sweat sitting on top of their fingers in ancipation of the release on that schedule. proposal. * Could it perhaps be helpful to identify platform and format and method, to get this done here? ** Weekly, say one entry on blyesky with list of recent news over last week; and one entry via audio podcast i.e. youtube or audible or whatever has audio outputs? Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:16, 26 January 2026 (UTC) :pinging @[[User:NikosLikomitros|NikosLikomitros]] @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] @[[User:Sj|Sj]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Sbb1413|Sbb1413]] @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] @[[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] @[[User:RockerballAustralia|RockerballAustralia]] @[[User:Matthiasb|Matthiasb]] @[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] @[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] to name a few, as this output could include news from other languages. cc @[[User:Revi C.|Revi C.]], @[[User:Base|Base]] Hoping to hear your input and aim for first date of a first initial post on Feb-01 or thereabouts. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 01:45, 27 January 2026 (UTC) ::I didn't understand what exactly is being proposed? --[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] ([[User talk:Vyacheslav84|talk]]) 03:19, 28 January 2026 (UTC) :::* {{comment}} Not totally following the proposal/question, but I will say this: If an event happens '''and that event is newsworthy''' there should be some type of jetsam present that verifies it actually DID happen. Historically, an accredited reporter's notes are valid. e.g. "I watched this program/podcast/live stream on this date at this time and this thing happened then that thing happened' etc. etc. But, again, the EVENT must be newsworthy AND have solid sourcing. Because someone with the YouTube channel '''CoolDude47''' said a thing happened at his neighbor's house, that SOURCE may not be dense enough to be trustworthy. Know what I mean?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:24, 29 January 2026 (UTC) ::::*If I understand Gryllida's proposal correctly, it is that we could (a) post a weekly news roundup to Bluesky or a similar site and/or (b) post a weekly audio news roundup/"best of Wikinews" to YouTube or a similar website. At this stage, though, I don't think we are in a good position to do either of those. I'm concerned that casual readers/listeners might not realize that Wikinews's topic selection is constrained by what our contributors take the time to write as well as what our reviewers take the time to review. We're averaging much less than one new published article per day at this point, resulting in a collection of articles that could be politely described at best as "eclectic". --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 06:08, 30 January 2026 (UTC) ::::*:Correct; there's always a chance to add one short disclaimer at the beginning of the text or audio piece noting that "<name of the nickname for the Wikinews broadcast> is in beta and audience can add their news by going <here>" where <here> is a user friendly place to start. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:51, 30 January 2026 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] :::* I guess you are not familiar with the services similar to the ones i described in 'context' then. here is a wiki page about them: [[:w:PBS News Hour]]. basically they air themselves every evening at same time. :::* I am proposing Wikinews produces at least one text output and at least one audio output regularly, for example, weekly, and posts them '''at the same time of day''' on a certain day of week consistently. :::Hope this helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:48, 30 January 2026 (UTC) ::::I agree, but who will do it? --[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] ([[User talk:Vyacheslav84|talk]]) 14:43, 16 February 2026 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] one person can not do all news media so i suggest to have one person per one or two social media accounts. I created page [[Wikinews:Social media posters]] you can add your name there and name of a social media where you are going to post and under what nick. Important not to have 'Wikinews' in the account name there as this is a trademark and requires permissions from WMF. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:49, 16 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] Okay, thanks, I'll take a look! --[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] ([[User talk:Vyacheslav84|talk]]) 11:16, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::{{comment}} I mean -- it ''sounds cool'', but: '''getting it done.....'''. Know what I mean?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:13, 4 February 2026 (UTC) :::Hi [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] please see [[Wikinews:Social media posters]], if you have a friend with social media addiction, please point them to the page, thanks! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:18, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::{{comment}} It's been 14 days since we had a new article published. If our text and audio outputs were based on our new content over the past week (and they should be if we were to undertake those projects), that would mean we would have had to skip two weeks. With the risk that the Wikimedia Foundation might shut down Wikinews altogether, I think we need to focus on our primary mission of publishing news stories on this website rather than trying to take on projects in new formats. Keep in mind that reviewers/administrators would presumably have to take the time to review the text and audio outputs before they are released, and there aren't enough of them to even have the time to review all the articles that get submitted now. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 07:52, 5 February 2026 (UTC) :::14 days??? Why. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:12, 6 February 2026 (UTC) :::🫩 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:13, 6 February 2026 (UTC) :Concerns over the inability to regularly put out updates like this are well-founded, but I don't think a monthly update would be too much to ask for, and I believe it would put a sense of relevance back into WN. As said by others, the articles we currently publish are mainly based on contributors' interests and availability, which isn't always the most attractive to a general audience. Even 1-sentence updates or a collection of quotes from media would be better than nothing; there's so much going on in the world right now that there's always something readers urgently need to know, and I see it as a foundational step for building, maintaining and retaining an active readership. I would gladly take up this task, but of course it would be better if reviewer(s) are responsible so that the reviewing process can be skipped/streamlined. Not sure about the audio part, unless software/AI is used to turn a transcript into audio. I personally watch ''{{w|Last Week Tonight with John Oliver}}'' and ''{{w|Weekend Update}}'', so I believe in the attractiveness of such updates. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 12:10, 12 February 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:HKLionel|HKLionel]] ::* I think submissions sized 100-150 words are the easiest to review, even if they do not possess much coverage value. That's the easiest way to get through the reviewing process. NOT MORE because it is pain to review. And not less because that is too short for pass. ::* There are three high quality submissions in queue. Each of them would take me a week to 'fully review'. Presumably, if I attempt one of them tonight, that will be an express review... ::Regards, - [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:59, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::Yes, so I suppose a coordinated effort by reviewers/making it the responsibility of a reviewer would make it more efficient. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 16:23, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :I just had the thought that we could borrow from Wikipedia's [[w:WP:ITN|in the news]] and [[w:P:C|current events portal]]. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 18:12, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::Borrow what? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:35, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :::Content for, as I suggested above, a monthly update. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 01:28, 25 February 2026 (UTC) ::I also discovered [[:ja:ウィキニュース:短信]] (news bulletins). This is a format I'd like to see emulated. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 02:39, 25 February 2026 (UTC) == Streak themed competition proposal == Propose to encourage a user to author and publish, or reviewer to review and publish, at least one story every two weeks. Like a [[:w:streak]]. At end of a competition period, suggest for 6 months (12 fortnights), the no. of maximum consecutive fortnights would be computed for each participant. For example, if I started and was major contributor to article on week 1, 3, 7, 9, 11, then my streaks are '1 and 3' (streak of 2), then '7 and 9 and 11' (streak of 3), I would score '3'. Top 10 participant would get a T-shirt or mug or some other object with a number (i.e. 'This user archived a 6 fortnight streak in English Wikinews in 2026' worded fancily and with fancy picture.) delivered to their desired postal address. Not sure how to fund this, but I think there may be a few people who want to donate to that purpose. if you wanted to donate please specify payment method. cc [[User:Pharos|Pharos]] as I think you might be able to get support from NYC for this perhaps. thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:02, 20 February 2026 (UTC) :created page [[Wikinews:2026 streak competition]] thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:12, 21 February 2026 (UTC) ::I think I could attempt this. [[User:CheatCodes4ever|Cheat]][[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|Codes]][[Special:Contributions/CheatCodes4ever|4ever]] ([[User:CheatCodes4ever/sandbox|sandbox]] | [[m:Special:CentralAuth/CheatCodes4ever|CentralAuth]]) 20:41, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] thank you, nice. 🙂 Is 'every 2 weeks' a good time frame? Or better 1 or 4 weeks? Whre do you think it could be funded from? Also, how long to run it for: 12 weeks or 24 weeks? Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:59, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] please add your name on that section [[Wikinews:2026_streak_competition#Interested_users|section 'interested users signup']] Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:25, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::::{{ping|Gryllida}} Two weeks sounds reasonable to me. [[User:CheatCodes4ever|Cheat]][[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|Codes]][[Special:Contributions/CheatCodes4ever|4ever]] ([[User:CheatCodes4ever/sandbox|sandbox]] | [[m:Special:CentralAuth/CheatCodes4ever|CentralAuth]]) 20:36, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :::::great thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:42, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :The prizes would probably need to be worked out later, but this is a great idea and I'm interested. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 01:47, 25 February 2026 (UTC) == Install inline comments == https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InlineComments Could this be installed here? It would be easuer to use than the current system, where highlight is a pain to delete on visual editor, and comment is hidden on talk tab. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 10:11, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :I find it unlikely that devs will add it, considering the status of Wikinews. I support you making a ticket at [[:phab:]] if you feel like it's warranted. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 17:23, 23 February 2026 (UTC) ::That would require consensus from the community. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 20:32, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :::thatas what i am asking about. would you support installation of such an extension here? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:43, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :::Which is why I was trying to provide my vote of approval. I did make that unclear, so I apologize: while I don't know that this will be successfully implemented, I am in favor of you requesting it <em>pending others weighing in and a general consensus that others feel the same way</em>. Again, sorry for suggesting that individuals unilaterally request new features. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 21:39, 23 February 2026 (UTC) ::::yeah i got it [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:03, 23 February 2026 (UTC) ::lets see if using [[:w:Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation#inline_comments|enwp lever]] works. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:34, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :::They [[:w:Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Proposal_to_install_the_'Inline_comments'_MediaWiki_extension_for_Draft_namespace|are being quite positive, including PHP maintainership]], and suggest development of a gadget as prototype. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:59, 1 March 2026 (UTC) :Same as Justin, though the WP discussions don't seem promising. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 01:53, 25 February 2026 (UTC) :Just to mention, it is not exactly like inline comments, but EzPR 2025 will include a feature called "Dynamic Marking" under the Sentence Marking section. When enabled, it will use a global gadget to load and display specific sentences that have been highlighted and marked by the reviewer on the article. :This is not fully implemented yet, the global script integration still needs to be completed. However, the idea is to provide a more dynamic approach to sentence-specific highlights and unsourced sentence marking.The data for each marked sentence, including its associated issue, will be stored on a JSON page. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:21, 28 February 2026 (UTC) ::Hi [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ::* I believe the dynamically marked comments, as currently implemented in EZPR2, have two disadvantages compared with the extension. First, they can be difficult to remove when working in the visual editor. Second, the extension provides a more user-friendly interface for replying to comments about a specific phrase in the article without having to switch to the talk page and back. ::* That said, one possible improvement to the extension would be to post a copy of the inline comment discussion to the article’s talk page when the comment is removed. This could be offered as an optional feature in the extension. At present, the discussion remains only in the article’s edit history, which may not be ideal, as the talk page is generally expected to serve as the central record of discussions about previous revisions of the article. ::Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:53, 28 February 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: I was not aware that there was interest in developing the extension as a gadget, which is, in my opinion, a much more practical and better approach. When the gadget is ready, I think we could also integrate it with EzPR 2025 to allow marking and commenting on specific text within an article. Therefore, I am dropping the Dynamic Marking approach within EzPR. :::Just to clarify regarding your comment: "''First, they can be difficult to remove when working in the visual editor.''" - I believe you may be referring to the current approach of wrapping text with templates. Dynamic Marking '''was not''' designed in that way; it was intended to function more like inline comments. Additionally, EN wikinews currently does not have the VisualEditor enabled. So even if that concern were valid, the current approach would not cause issues in this specific context. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 05:56, 1 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Actually, in Wikipedia there is a dying backlog queue of drafts for review, to create a new page in Wikipedia, users may often have to wait 2-6 months while page is sitting in Draft: namespace. So, I wanted to suggest the gadget separate, then it can be added to ENWP for draft review. For this space here in Wikinews, having the gadget installed there at ENWP could be a part of leverage to get the extension installed in Wikimedia wikis, including here, eventually. Knowing how ENWP centric the ecosystem is. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:33, 1 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Btw, inline comment doesn't show which phrase it was referring to, and neither does an inline citation. Only one cursor position. And inline comments were such a pain to edit in VE... For once they are not even visible until clicked or something. :( [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:34, 1 March 2026 (UTC) == Should we reconsider our stance on wikilinking == Our [[Wikinews:Style_guide#Wikilinking_an_article|Style guide states]] "Do not over-wikify articles. Link only particularly relevant background material." I believe the reasoning can be found in [[Wikinews:Categories#Wikilinks_and_redirects|this essay]], which states "Don't use wikilinks for basic information: a news article should stand on its own, understandable without consulting some other page along the way." As a community, I believe we have strayed from this practice considerably. A drift towards more wikilinking, in my opinion, is part of our broader drift from being a journalism project first to a wiki project first and a journalism project second. While over-wikilinking has not been an impediment to publication (that I'm aware of), it is something we should either be actively addressing (reducing) or something we should remove from our policies and guidelines. Please comment below how you feel about over-wikilinking and if you feel we should keep, remove, or update the recommendation. Justifying your response would be most helpful, but a simple !vote might suffice. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:27, 27 February 2026 (UTC) Some useful polling templates might be: *{{remove}} {{tl|remove}} *{{keep}} {{tl|keep}} *{{weak delete}} {{tl|weak delete}} *{{weak keep}} {{tl|weak keep}} === Comments === * {{keep}} especially for the lede. A link away from ''Wikinews'' is an invitation to stop reading our content and start reading someone else's. I also agree that the quality of our articles should be high enough that readers can fully understand the topic without going elsewhere for additional information. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:27, 27 February 2026 (UTC) *{{weak keep}} I am unsure if I have a passionate opinion here, but I will agree that the wikilinking has gotten a bit out of control. In the very least: most of our wikilinking should simply point to a new place at WN. This isn't Wikipedia. And: I '''2000% agree''' that we've lost our 'scope' of journalism first, wiki second. That is not even mentioning the 3,000 people involved with WMF that can only view us as a wiki ONLY. That has been a never ending war. Even some of us here: Admins etc. etc. -- we (including myself) sometimes get lost in the weeds on what is happening at this place: get the news, write the news, submit the news.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:32, 27 February 2026 (UTC) *:Just commenting what I see in this... *:* Obvious words like "cat" or "dog" are not supposed to be wikilinked. Not to point of wikilinking every second word in a page. *:* More complex names (for me it includes name of ''any'' US state, for instance, i never knew where they are and am not going to try to build a US map in my head, and many readers are overseas) that are not understood by foreigner or by someone new to that topic, could and should be wikilinked. *:* Adding a brief note to a thing is good. At some point I added a note like ", a state in east coast of United States," for something, for that reason. *:* Sport articles, for example, suffer a lot from lack of explanations. :S *:* Also this approach gave advantage that items that ''are'' wikilinked do, eventually in an utopic world when news writing is an everyday thing, become wikilinks to local categories about that event series or place or topic in ''news'' context, with a feed for that. For example there is no category "Dog". Or [[court]]. Or something. *:* If I removed a wikilink, I should probably feel compelled to either add a brief note or add a local news-feed (category) link. *:* A reviewer can do such minor chanhe if needed. *:* And I personally do not see any reason to change that policy in its current version. *:[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:00, 28 February 2026 (UTC) *{{weak delete}} Admittedly, having too many wikilinks looks bad. But we should not discourage Wikinews writers from including ''useful'' links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is our sister project, not a competitor. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 05:31, 28 February 2026 (UTC) *'''comment''' - There are two quotes that were mentioned, the style guide, which says "''"Do not over-wikify articles. Link only particularly relevant background material."''", and an under construction essay called "'''Categories'''", abandoned in 2021, which for reasons I can't quite figure out mentions wikilinks. When being asked "''Please comment below how you feel about over-wikilinking and if you feel we should keep, remove, or update the recommendation.''", it's not entirely clear what "the recommendation" is. Maybe I seem like I'm being obtuse but I'm having trouble interpreting all the !votes and figuring out where I stand on an issue presented as a simply yes/no question but that lacks the needed clarity. If just a comment is being sought, I can provide that of course. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 03:47, 10 March 2026 (UTC) == Software suggestion to notify all users eligible to vote == For requests regarding permission, removal of permission, or accreditation, I suggest developing a tool that notifies all eligible users and includes a link where they can provide comments, ask questions, and cast their vote; and with a note how they can opt out of receiving such messages (if desired). I believe similar tools have been used on other wikis, such as Commons or Meta. Since this wiki is relatively small and some recent requests have received very few votes for an extended period, such a tool could help increase participation and prevent discussions from remaining open indefinitely. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:40, 1 March 2026 (UTC) == Suggestion for [[Wikinews:Writing an article]] == At [[Wikinews:Writing an article#Starting out]], it says: :If the story has not been started, you can begin it by entering an appropriate title below and clicking "Create article". :Here are ''Wikinews'' [[Wikinews:Style guide#Headlines|article title rules and guidelines]]. I suggest that we add something like this to the above: "The article title should '''identify the news event''' that the article is about. A person's name alone, or a company name alone, should not be an article title." I am assuming that some people are indeed creating articles by starting from [[Wikinews:Writing an article]] but not reading the linked article title rules and guidelines (this assumption might be incorrect). That seems to be how we get such soon-to-be-deleted drafts as [[Rumi Von-Clarke]], [[Daud Muhammed]], and [[Zakariah gmb services]], all of which were tagged for speedy deletion on their second edits. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 14:13, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :I support this. That seems like a reasonable assumption. This might pull in a few contributors who get discouraged at first. I don't really follow them; what is the typical path a new editor who creates one of those articles takes? Do they stop editing? Silently? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:39, 6 March 2026 (UTC) ::I'm cool with that. I just hope new reporters read it. The '''event''' is the thing.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:52, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :Works for me. This could be a draft title, and when the user is ready to submit it for review, they can choose a better, more representative title if it is not already set. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:57, 6 March 2026 (UTC) == The future == I'll try to be quick here: We are a small village. There is a kind of poison that works its way in here at times -- people can (and do) begin treating this place as a general wiki, after they've been here for about 6 months. <br>I am writing these words as encouragement, not to scold -- please note that. I am going to (for the remainder of 2026) focus very much on Reviewing and encouraging new reporters. This is a news site. We have policies and guidelines. I will try very hard to adhere to those -- and I ask all other people here to focus on that very thing. Good things ahead. [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:19, 6 March 2026 (UTC) == New tool for inline comments: DynamicMarking. == Hello, a new tool is now available that enables reviewers to attach inline comments to specific phrases in a draft article. This means phrases can be marked by a reviewer to highlight issues without actually editing the article. Phrases that have been marked will appear highlighted in yellow. Non-reviewers can view them, but they will not be able to edit or remove the attached comments or markings. However, users can mark a specific highlight as "resolved". This gadget allows users to quickly identify the exact text in an article that needs modification or changes. Reviewers using the EzPR2025 gadget for review will find the "Dynamic Marking" feature integrated into it. However, the tool can also be used independently of EzPR2025. Full documentation is available at: [[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)/DynamicMarking|WN:EzPR2025/Dynamic Marking]]. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 08:07, 14 March 2026 (UTC) == Review que == there are currently nibe articles in review que going stale. I cannot review ''any'' of them because I either wrote them or they're original research. Can someone please get going on a review? This site must publish one article per day to remain a viable destination. Also, I am not going to be able to volunteer any more time writing articles here if everything I wrote this week goes stale for no good reason. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:41, 20 March 2026 (UTC) : For me, the deeper issue is a difference in what level of quality we are trying to achieve. Our Policies and Guidelines were written by a generation aiming for a much higher standard than what the current generation, broadly speaking, appears willing or able to sustain. The way we are collectively navigating that gap is creating friction (to put it politely) and, in practice, a status quo of low output. : We need to resolve that tension. Either we reform our PaGs to reflect a more achievable standard, or we raise the quality of our work to meet them. : Given the ongoing friction, I find myself looking for other ways to contribute here, if at all. I know at least one other reviewer has expressed a similar view. : I believe this quality–output tension is a central factor behind the SPTF’s recommendation to close Wikinews. I understand the logic behind that recommendation: we have not yet demonstrated that a citizen journalism model can reliably and consistently sustain high output, high quality, and a meaningful wiki process all at the same time.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:04, 20 March 2026 (UTC) ::If there is a problem regarding the quality of my contributions to this project, then nobody has said anything about that to me whatsoever. I submit my articles in the best shape possible and I still feel like I have to make a scene just to get someone to even look at my submissions. This is starting to look like what I assumed was going to happen if I started reviewing -- me being expected to pick up the entire review workload -- because literally nothing will get published orherwise -- while my own submissions are just forgotten and left to rot in the review que, and hours of my personal time are just wasted. I believe this project has potential but I dont know how to proceed if nothing else is being done to fix the problem that multiple users have been bitching about for months'''. This project will be shut down if the status quo continues. ''' [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:41, 20 March 2026 (UTC) ::: There was no specific target in my earlier comment. I was speaking more generally about what feels like a broader tension on the project. ::: To clarify: it seems we may not all be applying the same review standard in practice. I’m not referring to you or anyone else ''specifically''. There appears to be some preference, broadly speaking, for getting articles published once they are “good enough,” even if not every statement has been explicitly checked against a source or clearly attributed, with the expectation that the wiki process can refine things later. ::: On the other hand, our existing policies and guidelines lean toward a stricter approach, where each statement is expected to be supported or removed before publication. That gap — between what the standards say and what is realistically being applied — is where I see a lot of the friction coming from. ::: I may be misreading that, but that’s the issue I was trying to point to. ::: On the concern about you being expected to carry the review workload, I’m not sure the recent activity reflects that. Publishing has been shared among a small group of reviewers, and you’ve been a significant part of that (thank you!), but not the sole contributor.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=review&user=&page=&excludetempacct=1&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B%5D=newusers&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:12, 21 March 2026 (UTC) ::::I understand enforcing the rigorous policies for quality control, I just feel there have been too many times where a reviewer has requested revisions after an article I authored has been submitted, the requested changes are promptly made, but the reviewer just goes radio silent immediately afterward and the articles just goes stale waiting for review. It's hard to really feel motivated to make revisions to or gatwick articles I write because they have mostly just been getting left to rot these past few months. I'm not sure the community understands how much human labor power is actually just being wasted due to this failed process. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:58, 21 March 2026 (UTC) :::::i published one, others to follow during the week if i manage [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 13:03, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :::::it was noted elsewhere that 'a few' reviewers are required for the site to work. like i woukd say around 2-3 is a bare minimum 💀 when only 1 or 2, then, very hard to get things moving. I will also try to write one during the week for you to review! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 13:05, 22 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:11, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] what is the issue with reviewing OR? Do you have scoop access? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 13:03, 22 March 2026 (UTC) ::I dont know how to verify sources with original research. How am I supposed to review an event or interview I did not attend? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:08, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :::you can cross check it against reporters notes. They are shared privately with scoop, an address that accredited reporters and reviewers can read. If you do not have a wn-reporters account, please email me with your desired username, and i will email you the login instructions. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 14:32, 22 March 2026 (UTC) ::::If it helps any, I have two stories currently waiting that are OR. [[Musique Libre Femmes plays for Women's History Month at Tompkins Square Library in New York City]] requires scoop access but I tried deliberately to make [[The Performance Space in New York City holds its annual gala honoring three artists]] verifiable using only the pictures I provided in the article and a few of the pre-event sources. This is even easier now, as since I wrote the material (immediately after it happened), some genuine sources have come out which also corroborate my OR (which I added).. So that one shouldn't be too difficult. I also made it deliberately short so we could publish it fast... [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:35, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :::::Are we able to publish OR ten days after the focal point event? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:45, 23 March 2026 (UTC) :::::: Generally, yes.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:31, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::How long do we have? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:40, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: Unfortunately, this is one of the many areas where there is no hard-and-fast rule. [[WN:Fresh]] merely states: :::::::: <blockquote>Exclusive content has the potential to extend our freshness horizon by days or even weeks, depending on the nature of the original material. </blockquote> :::::::: Somewhere there is a relatively recent discussion that involved MeDaWikipedian I believe, in which some consensus formed around eight weeks as a max limit. I'll find it but it might take some time.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:50, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: Not much of a consensus for 8 weeks, but it may still be useful to cite as recent precedent when defending publication of material up to that age: [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance/archives/2024/September#Photo exhibition “Ethnic features of the world people” took place in the Crimean capital]][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 02:14, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: If you'd like some advice on it, let me know what article you are talking about and what you're thinking as far as why it is still publishable. If you'd rather do it quietly, feel free to use wikimail or email.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 02:17, 24 March 2026 (UTC) == Proposal to auto-"stale" from review queue == If an article was submitted for review on day N, then on day N+8 could it automatically mark itself as stale? This could help clear out the queue from the old end. I picked number 8 because usually an article does not get published about events over seven days old; I may be deluded there so please adjust the number of days as needed. Alternatively, the "review" template could change to "abandoned" after 7 days. I am suggesting to get this decided and implemented some time soon. It would reduce the load on reviewers and sysops, in my opinion. Something similar was done for another template before, but I do not remember which. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:59, 24 March 2026 (UTC) == Improving review visibility and collaboration for draft articles == I propose increasing visibility and collaboration around drafts and their talk pages so more users can contribute to review and copyediting. That could help authors who aren’t keeping up with reviewer requests and would be more like a scientific journal process where at least two people check a page before publication. Since the software supports pre-reviews, we could encourage everyone to pre-review more broadly. Proposed actions: 1. Add a friendly site notice inviting users to join a “newsroom” and review at least one article per day. Link to a Newsroom guide explaining categories: Drafts = need pre-review, expand, submit for review Queue = possibly ready; check carefully and flag issues Disputed = issues found; fix and resubmit That page like [[Wikinews:Newsroom]] but a mini-version: with only one paragraph intro linking to key policies; three lists (draft, review, disputed) one paragraph before each; one list (published in last three days) also one para explaining process of improving or cross checking those. That could be more user friendly for newbies than the current "everything and a kitchen sink" current version. 2. On submission, automatically leave the user a message with a request to pre-review at least two pages from the Newsroom, again linking to its over simplified version, perhaps even transcluding it to the user's talk page (via subst, so only then-current version is included in the message) as then they do not need to open the Newsroom link to see the topics being written about in the new drafts. These steps should speed feedback to authors and surface more issues before publishing, and bring more hands to fix them. Hope this is helpful. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:10, 27 March 2026 (UTC) 3. At submission, present user a button "pre-review my own article" which is like pre-review process they do for article they just submitted. 2a. Example: [[User:Gryllida/MiniNewsroom]] --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:31, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :4. Add button "mark as stale" to the develop template. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:32, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Online workshop for training new reviewers == Hello everyone, to help increase the number of active reviewers on English Wikinews and support interested contributors in understanding the review process, I would like to propose organizing a structured, documentation-based online workshop. Given that live video sessions may not be feasible for many participants, this workshop would primarily be text-based and hosted on-wiki (with optional use of chat platforms for discussion). However, if any experienced reviewer is interested in contributing via a presentation or live session, that would certainly be welcome. The workshop would be divided into 4-5 sections, each focusing on a specific aspect of the reviewing process. These may include: * Introduction to the role and responsibilities of a reviewer * Core review criteria (newsworthiness, neutrality, verifiability, freshness, copyvio) * Source verification and common issues in articles * The review workflow (from submission to publication) * Post-publication review and maintenance Each section would include short explanatory materials (text, slides, or diagrams), followed by practical tasks. These tasks could include answering questions, identifying issues in sample articles, or performing a simulated review. Participants who complete the workshop should gain a clearer understanding of how reviewing works in practice. Rather than replacing the existing reviewer nomination process, the workshop could serve as a preparation pathway, helping participants build the skills and confidence needed before being nominated. Additionally, participants who demonstrate strong understanding during the workshop could be encouraged or mentored further as potential reviewer candidates. To keep the workshop effective, participation may be limited to a small group. We would likely need at least 2-3 experienced reviewers to help guide discussions, review responses, and provide feedback. I would be happy to help prepare materials such as slides, flowcharts, and example articles. I would appreciate the community's thoughts on this idea: Would such a workshop be useful? Would any reviewers be interested in helping organize or mentor participants? Are there improvements or alternative approaches we should consider? Thank you. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:12, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :*'''Support''' I would've started reviewing much sooner of there was something like this in place. Why there doesn't already exist something similar to this is beyond me. :[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:05, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :* I can also assist in creating JS-based interactive quizzes, annotation projects, a peer review comment writing playground, and other interactive tools for the workshop, which I think will make it more engaging and fun. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 17:37, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :*:That seems good but is being hindered by needing to process [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard#Board_of_Trustees_Approves_Closure_of_Wikinews the hosting change]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == The last Wikinews article == Since the site will be frozen after May 4, I would like to suggest that we plan to have the top headline on the last day be something along the lines of "Wikinews closes after 21 years; community moves to Miraheze" or something like that. If the top headline is going to be permanently in place after that, it ought to be something that commemorates the ending of Wikinews. I wouldn't want the headline that the site has to live with permanently to be something like "Small town car accident results in nearly $200 in damage, no injuries". Of course, this presumes that we can have an article commemorating the site's closure ready and approved on May 3, but it will also require the cooperation of reviewers not to put something else in the lead headline position at the last minute. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 14:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :{{Support}}: I think this could be some type of original report. Even if a full article is not possible, I do think we should leave a message on the main page. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:17, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :{{support}} I proposed the same elsewhere (after you did). —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :[[Wikinews closes after 21 years]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:24, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{Support}} But: it will a long time before I come back here. Not being ugly about it. Maybe Michael can publish it. I'm about to sign out.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 02:07, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :{{Neutral}} Don't care. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:24, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Not sure if we 100% are moving to other host, though we should prep the article already, and post by May 3 -- should there be any changes, we do it before the project is RO (read-only). If someone is up for writing it -- I shall be there to review it. PS: please come to IRC, if you all can.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 09:37, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::: I think the article would greatly benefit from someone from the previous generation of contributors to write about how the modern review process came about, the various journalism schools/classes we worked with at the time, etc. That time was our peak in regards to readership and activity and is therefore the most consequential for us as a project. ::: I know @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] has links to external sites which praised the work of en.WN during those periods. Those could/should be used as sources, quoted, etc. ::: See: [[Wikinews closes after 21 years]][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 06:48, 4 April 2026 (UTC) == Future stewardship of Wikinews == As per [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Public_consultation_about_Wikinews#c-Sj-20260401032800-Victoria-20260330090000 this comment] by @[[User:Sj|Sj]], Wikimedia NYC and task force members are discussing the possible stewardship of Wikinews by [[meta:Wikimedia New York City]]. Also ping: @[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:56, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Proposal to cease publishing after around April 14 == Hello, as resources are required for migration, I am proposing to set a date after which articles will not be published. Maybe around mid-April. Then, a week later, clear the review queue and finish any maintenance tasks and walk away. Then this would leave around two weeks to setup a new site. Otherwise, I am concerned migration will be under-resourced. cc @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] who quite rightfully in my opinion wrote [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ASupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_Christians_of_crimes_against_the_humanity_of_gays_and_lesbians_in_a_landmark_ruling&diff=5003903&oldid=5003259 that]. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:06, 5 April 2026 (UTC) e4ois71hu5ak3qd03cq2ontn6jzdl3d 10 99549 5005248 5001820 2026-04-06T01:35:17Z Gryllida 160590 Updating Lead1 with [[Supreme Court of Finland makes crimes against humanity convictions in landmark ruling]] ([[User:Asked42/LeadManager|Lead Manager]]) 5005248 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Lead 2.0 |id = 1 <!-- Do not change. 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The defendants were convicted under the section of the Criminal Code of Finland concerning crimes against humanity, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made claims about homosexuality that contradicted the consensus of the scientific community. }}<noinclude>{{Lead article doc}}</noinclude> dluca6q9damfdaedhpyotao17hfg91x 5005257 5005248 2026-04-06T01:38:59Z Gryllida 160590 [[File:Rainbow flag flapping in the wind.jpg]] 5005257 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Lead 2.0 |id = 1 <!-- Do not change. 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The defendants were convicted under the section of the Criminal Code of Finland concerning crimes against humanity, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made claims about homosexuality that contradicted the consensus of the scientific community. }}<noinclude>{{Lead article doc}}</noinclude> 2ywmznsi7veyls9qfe1pkf4a2bvutrr 10 99554 5005249 5000977 2026-04-06T01:35:19Z Gryllida 160590 Updating Lead2 with [[Musique Libre Femmes plays for Women's History Month at Tompkins Square Library in New York City]] ([[User:Asked42/LeadManager|Lead Manager]]) 5005249 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Lead 2.0 |id = 2 <!-- Do not change. 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The decision was made in response to an incident earlier in the week on Monday that resulted in a young girl at a children playground in Daegu being injured near the neck by an alleged stray bullet from a military drill at nearby military facility. }}<noinclude>{{Lead article doc}}</noinclude> g8p1w210vchjcrry31elrhdwo8yun2e 10 99556 5005251 5000979 2026-04-06T01:35:22Z Gryllida 160590 Updating Lead4 with [["One Battle After Another" wins 6 Oscars including Best Picture]] ([[User:Asked42/LeadManager|Lead Manager]]) 5005251 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Lead 2.0 |id = 4 <!-- Do not change. Each lead must have its own unique ID --> |image = Paul Thomas Anderson in 2025.jpg |width = 100x100px |type = none |title = "One Battle After Another" wins 6 Oscars including Best Picture |short_title = |summary = One Battle After Another was the big winner at the 98th Academy Awards ceremony, held on Sunday, March 15 at the Dolby Theatre in Los Angeles, California. 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Two [wins] from three [games]" said Caloundra captain Kaine Frew." }}<noinclude>{{Lead article doc}}</noinclude> ng832z6n5pbattxpend3wpwrzrfquja 3 142283 5005117 5004993 2026-04-05T16:34:22Z Justthefacts 2772873 /* Reviewing my very first ever Wikinews article */ Reply 5005117 wikitext text/x-wiki {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = User talk:Gryllida/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(30d) |counter = 1 |maxarchivesize = 192K |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 0 |archiveheader = {{talkarchivenav}} }} One page archive: [[User talk:Gryllida/Archive]]; <span class="plainlinks">[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gryllida&oldid=4531592 Discussions made in 2019 (old revision)]</span>. == Randwick City Council article == I like articles that have "ancillary" source material! Flyers, mailers, guides -- etc.!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 00:11, 7 March 2026 (UTC) :Working on another one about https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-06/moreton-bay-homeless-evictions-supreme-court-decision/106423036 now. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:12, 7 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]], I just submitted it for review -- [[Moreton Bay illegally evicted homeless campers, Queensland Supreme Court rules]]. Please check it out. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:08, 7 March 2026 (UTC) == Recent things == It's late -- I'm tired, so don't read these words with a harsh tone -- they aren't meant that way. Just a 'lite' observation, nothing more. I've noticed (over recent weeks) your nominations/encouragement for certain contributors (new, recently returned, darned near brand new, only show up 3 times per year) to engage in '''cleaning up vandalism''' etc. etc. (I have hardly reviewed most of those peoples' contribution histories, so bear that in mind). I think the trap of "We're so glad you're here!"-mindset can muddy the waters a bit. We're all volunteers -- nobody gets that more than I do. But, I hope we can be very careful with our language for newbies at this place. People have to earn trust at this place; that means putting in the work. They show up, they edit, they engage, they do the things reporters do and ''then'' we start talking about hanging special stickers on their page -- and '''not until they've shown who they are'''. There is a pathway that needs to be followed. I very deeply feel we need to remember our "roots" around here. Who knows what WMF intends for us? ...but journalistic integrity is critical at a place like this. Good things ahead!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 05:09, 8 March 2026 (UTC) :Saw that, thanks mate. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 06:49, 8 March 2026 (UTC) == BOM == I've spent all of 20 seconds looking at that -- why would that not be stale at this time??--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:01, 20 March 2026 (UTC) :There was more information obtained from a source recently. Talk page and scoop has details. Published sources do not have it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:58, 21 March 2026 (UTC) == Stevie Young of AC/DC == I'm not planning to do anything more with [[AC/DC guitarist Stevie Young admitted to hospital in Buenos Aires, spokesperson says]], but I wanted to let you know that according to https://ultimateclassicrock.com/ac-dc-stage-return/ he has returned to performing with the band after being released from the hospital. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 13:30, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :Good to hear. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:44, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Central discussion page on Meta-Wiki == I think it's now time to create a central page on Meta-Wiki for discussions related to the migration of Wikinews and its different language editions. Would you like to start that page and also notify the Russian Wikinews community about it? [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:09, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :Russian Wikinews already knows snd got a thread about it in their forum. I do not think I have the capacity to open discussion at Meta, sorry, I am needing some sleep right now. I am hoping someone does it within next few hours, if not, then I will write something. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Sure. I am suggesting a central place so that, even after Wikinews becomes read-only, we can continue our discussions on Meta about what needs to be done next. [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:31, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: I have started a Meta page for a central discussion about the migration, including participation from other language editions of Wikinews. This will also allow discussions to continue after the Wikinews sites become read-only on May 4. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:59, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :::Link? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::::[[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]] [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 05:24, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Reviewing my very first ever Wikinews article == Would you mind reviewing [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts Christians of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians in a landmark ruling|my very first ever Wikinews article]], since the previous reviewer was unable to complete reviewing it? Thank you so much in advance! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 17:42, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] :1. That review was completed. I revised the page and re-submitted for review. :2. I posted [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Proposal_to_cease_publishing_after_around_April_14|this]]. :Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:13, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], will you be reviewing the article? [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 16:34, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ghyla1ji2ml4wn7taniwiipizoimktw 5005212 5005117 2026-04-05T23:31:49Z Lofi Gurl 2885970 /* Reviewing my very first ever Wikinews article */ Reply 5005212 wikitext text/x-wiki {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = User talk:Gryllida/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(30d) |counter = 1 |maxarchivesize = 192K |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 0 |archiveheader = {{talkarchivenav}} }} One page archive: [[User talk:Gryllida/Archive]]; <span class="plainlinks">[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gryllida&oldid=4531592 Discussions made in 2019 (old revision)]</span>. == Randwick City Council article == I like articles that have "ancillary" source material! Flyers, mailers, guides -- etc.!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 00:11, 7 March 2026 (UTC) :Working on another one about https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-06/moreton-bay-homeless-evictions-supreme-court-decision/106423036 now. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:12, 7 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]], I just submitted it for review -- [[Moreton Bay illegally evicted homeless campers, Queensland Supreme Court rules]]. Please check it out. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:08, 7 March 2026 (UTC) == Recent things == It's late -- I'm tired, so don't read these words with a harsh tone -- they aren't meant that way. Just a 'lite' observation, nothing more. I've noticed (over recent weeks) your nominations/encouragement for certain contributors (new, recently returned, darned near brand new, only show up 3 times per year) to engage in '''cleaning up vandalism''' etc. etc. (I have hardly reviewed most of those peoples' contribution histories, so bear that in mind). I think the trap of "We're so glad you're here!"-mindset can muddy the waters a bit. We're all volunteers -- nobody gets that more than I do. But, I hope we can be very careful with our language for newbies at this place. People have to earn trust at this place; that means putting in the work. They show up, they edit, they engage, they do the things reporters do and ''then'' we start talking about hanging special stickers on their page -- and '''not until they've shown who they are'''. There is a pathway that needs to be followed. I very deeply feel we need to remember our "roots" around here. Who knows what WMF intends for us? ...but journalistic integrity is critical at a place like this. Good things ahead!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 05:09, 8 March 2026 (UTC) :Saw that, thanks mate. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 06:49, 8 March 2026 (UTC) == BOM == I've spent all of 20 seconds looking at that -- why would that not be stale at this time??--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:01, 20 March 2026 (UTC) :There was more information obtained from a source recently. Talk page and scoop has details. Published sources do not have it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:58, 21 March 2026 (UTC) == Stevie Young of AC/DC == I'm not planning to do anything more with [[AC/DC guitarist Stevie Young admitted to hospital in Buenos Aires, spokesperson says]], but I wanted to let you know that according to https://ultimateclassicrock.com/ac-dc-stage-return/ he has returned to performing with the band after being released from the hospital. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 13:30, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :Good to hear. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:44, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Central discussion page on Meta-Wiki == I think it's now time to create a central page on Meta-Wiki for discussions related to the migration of Wikinews and its different language editions. Would you like to start that page and also notify the Russian Wikinews community about it? [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:09, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :Russian Wikinews already knows snd got a thread about it in their forum. I do not think I have the capacity to open discussion at Meta, sorry, I am needing some sleep right now. I am hoping someone does it within next few hours, if not, then I will write something. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Sure. I am suggesting a central place so that, even after Wikinews becomes read-only, we can continue our discussions on Meta about what needs to be done next. [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:31, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: I have started a Meta page for a central discussion about the migration, including participation from other language editions of Wikinews. This will also allow discussions to continue after the Wikinews sites become read-only on May 4. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:59, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :::Link? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::::[[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]] [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 05:24, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Reviewing my very first ever Wikinews article == Would you mind reviewing [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts Christians of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians in a landmark ruling|my very first ever Wikinews article]], since the previous reviewer was unable to complete reviewing it? Thank you so much in advance! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 17:42, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] :1. That review was completed. I revised the page and re-submitted for review. :2. I posted [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Proposal_to_cease_publishing_after_around_April_14|this]]. :Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:13, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], will you be reviewing the article? [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 16:34, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :::I restored my previous edits and resubmitted for review. It's stale but they might make an exception. It's worth a try. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:31, 5 April 2026 (UTC) 8m0uttgnyf8i1m9vgcmv45ydzexjli6 5005247 5005212 2026-04-06T01:34:16Z Gryllida 160590 /* Reviewing my very first ever Wikinews article */ Reply 5005247 wikitext text/x-wiki {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = User talk:Gryllida/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(30d) |counter = 1 |maxarchivesize = 192K |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 0 |archiveheader = {{talkarchivenav}} }} One page archive: [[User talk:Gryllida/Archive]]; <span class="plainlinks">[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gryllida&oldid=4531592 Discussions made in 2019 (old revision)]</span>. == Randwick City Council article == I like articles that have "ancillary" source material! Flyers, mailers, guides -- etc.!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 00:11, 7 March 2026 (UTC) :Working on another one about https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-06/moreton-bay-homeless-evictions-supreme-court-decision/106423036 now. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:12, 7 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]], I just submitted it for review -- [[Moreton Bay illegally evicted homeless campers, Queensland Supreme Court rules]]. Please check it out. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:08, 7 March 2026 (UTC) == Recent things == It's late -- I'm tired, so don't read these words with a harsh tone -- they aren't meant that way. Just a 'lite' observation, nothing more. I've noticed (over recent weeks) your nominations/encouragement for certain contributors (new, recently returned, darned near brand new, only show up 3 times per year) to engage in '''cleaning up vandalism''' etc. etc. (I have hardly reviewed most of those peoples' contribution histories, so bear that in mind). I think the trap of "We're so glad you're here!"-mindset can muddy the waters a bit. We're all volunteers -- nobody gets that more than I do. But, I hope we can be very careful with our language for newbies at this place. People have to earn trust at this place; that means putting in the work. They show up, they edit, they engage, they do the things reporters do and ''then'' we start talking about hanging special stickers on their page -- and '''not until they've shown who they are'''. There is a pathway that needs to be followed. I very deeply feel we need to remember our "roots" around here. Who knows what WMF intends for us? ...but journalistic integrity is critical at a place like this. Good things ahead!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 05:09, 8 March 2026 (UTC) :Saw that, thanks mate. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 06:49, 8 March 2026 (UTC) == BOM == I've spent all of 20 seconds looking at that -- why would that not be stale at this time??--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:01, 20 March 2026 (UTC) :There was more information obtained from a source recently. Talk page and scoop has details. Published sources do not have it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:58, 21 March 2026 (UTC) == Stevie Young of AC/DC == I'm not planning to do anything more with [[AC/DC guitarist Stevie Young admitted to hospital in Buenos Aires, spokesperson says]], but I wanted to let you know that according to https://ultimateclassicrock.com/ac-dc-stage-return/ he has returned to performing with the band after being released from the hospital. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 13:30, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :Good to hear. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:44, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Central discussion page on Meta-Wiki == I think it's now time to create a central page on Meta-Wiki for discussions related to the migration of Wikinews and its different language editions. Would you like to start that page and also notify the Russian Wikinews community about it? [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:09, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :Russian Wikinews already knows snd got a thread about it in their forum. I do not think I have the capacity to open discussion at Meta, sorry, I am needing some sleep right now. I am hoping someone does it within next few hours, if not, then I will write something. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Sure. I am suggesting a central place so that, even after Wikinews becomes read-only, we can continue our discussions on Meta about what needs to be done next. [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:31, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: I have started a Meta page for a central discussion about the migration, including participation from other language editions of Wikinews. This will also allow discussions to continue after the Wikinews sites become read-only on May 4. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:59, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :::Link? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::::[[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]] [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 05:24, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Reviewing my very first ever Wikinews article == Would you mind reviewing [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts Christians of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians in a landmark ruling|my very first ever Wikinews article]], since the previous reviewer was unable to complete reviewing it? Thank you so much in advance! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 17:42, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] :1. That review was completed. I revised the page and re-submitted for review. :2. I posted [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Proposal_to_cease_publishing_after_around_April_14|this]]. :Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:13, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], will you be reviewing the article? [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 16:34, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :::I restored my previous edits and resubmitted for review. It's stale but they might make an exception. It's worth a try. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:31, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::::i published it, it looks a lot better than the previous version and it checks out well against the sources. thanks to you both for the revision. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] and @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]]. regards [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:34, 6 April 2026 (UTC) 276e4fmthmty69xyanwgn5od8l1j3cs 5005256 5005247 2026-04-06T01:38:42Z Lofi Gurl 2885970 /* Reviewing my very first ever Wikinews article */ Reply 5005256 wikitext text/x-wiki {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = User talk:Gryllida/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(30d) |counter = 1 |maxarchivesize = 192K |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 0 |archiveheader = {{talkarchivenav}} }} One page archive: [[User talk:Gryllida/Archive]]; <span class="plainlinks">[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gryllida&oldid=4531592 Discussions made in 2019 (old revision)]</span>. == Randwick City Council article == I like articles that have "ancillary" source material! Flyers, mailers, guides -- etc.!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 00:11, 7 March 2026 (UTC) :Working on another one about https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-06/moreton-bay-homeless-evictions-supreme-court-decision/106423036 now. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:12, 7 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]], I just submitted it for review -- [[Moreton Bay illegally evicted homeless campers, Queensland Supreme Court rules]]. Please check it out. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:08, 7 March 2026 (UTC) == Recent things == It's late -- I'm tired, so don't read these words with a harsh tone -- they aren't meant that way. Just a 'lite' observation, nothing more. I've noticed (over recent weeks) your nominations/encouragement for certain contributors (new, recently returned, darned near brand new, only show up 3 times per year) to engage in '''cleaning up vandalism''' etc. etc. (I have hardly reviewed most of those peoples' contribution histories, so bear that in mind). I think the trap of "We're so glad you're here!"-mindset can muddy the waters a bit. We're all volunteers -- nobody gets that more than I do. But, I hope we can be very careful with our language for newbies at this place. People have to earn trust at this place; that means putting in the work. They show up, they edit, they engage, they do the things reporters do and ''then'' we start talking about hanging special stickers on their page -- and '''not until they've shown who they are'''. There is a pathway that needs to be followed. I very deeply feel we need to remember our "roots" around here. Who knows what WMF intends for us? ...but journalistic integrity is critical at a place like this. Good things ahead!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 05:09, 8 March 2026 (UTC) :Saw that, thanks mate. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 06:49, 8 March 2026 (UTC) == BOM == I've spent all of 20 seconds looking at that -- why would that not be stale at this time??--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:01, 20 March 2026 (UTC) :There was more information obtained from a source recently. Talk page and scoop has details. Published sources do not have it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:58, 21 March 2026 (UTC) == Stevie Young of AC/DC == I'm not planning to do anything more with [[AC/DC guitarist Stevie Young admitted to hospital in Buenos Aires, spokesperson says]], but I wanted to let you know that according to https://ultimateclassicrock.com/ac-dc-stage-return/ he has returned to performing with the band after being released from the hospital. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 13:30, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :Good to hear. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:44, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Central discussion page on Meta-Wiki == I think it's now time to create a central page on Meta-Wiki for discussions related to the migration of Wikinews and its different language editions. Would you like to start that page and also notify the Russian Wikinews community about it? [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:09, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :Russian Wikinews already knows snd got a thread about it in their forum. I do not think I have the capacity to open discussion at Meta, sorry, I am needing some sleep right now. I am hoping someone does it within next few hours, if not, then I will write something. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Sure. I am suggesting a central place so that, even after Wikinews becomes read-only, we can continue our discussions on Meta about what needs to be done next. [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:31, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: I have started a Meta page for a central discussion about the migration, including participation from other language editions of Wikinews. This will also allow discussions to continue after the Wikinews sites become read-only on May 4. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:59, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :::Link? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::::[[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]] [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 05:24, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Reviewing my very first ever Wikinews article == Would you mind reviewing [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts Christians of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians in a landmark ruling|my very first ever Wikinews article]], since the previous reviewer was unable to complete reviewing it? Thank you so much in advance! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 17:42, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] :1. That review was completed. I revised the page and re-submitted for review. :2. I posted [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Proposal_to_cease_publishing_after_around_April_14|this]]. :Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:13, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], will you be reviewing the article? [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 16:34, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :::I restored my previous edits and resubmitted for review. It's stale but they might make an exception. It's worth a try. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:31, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::::i published it, it looks a lot better than the previous version and it checks out well against the sources. thanks to you both for the revision. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] and @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]]. regards [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:34, 6 April 2026 (UTC) :::::Thank you so much, I am so glad we were able to see this through. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:38, 6 April 2026 (UTC) lbngcn2s2roza6saentf447lysxupb4 3 145702 5005214 5004885 2026-04-05T23:36:02Z BigKrow 2871522 /* I see you */ Reply 5005214 wikitext text/x-wiki {| class=wikitable style="text-align: center" |+ [[Image:Golden file cabinet.png|120px]] |- | [[User:Bddpaux/Archive 1|Archive 1]] || [[User:Bddpaux/Archive 2|Archive 2]] || [[User:Bddpaux/Archive 3|Archive 3]] || [[User:Bddpaux/Archive 4|Archive 4]] || [[User talk:SVTCobra/2010 Archive|2010]] |- | [[User talk:SVTCobra/2011-14 Archive|2011-14]] || [[User talk:SVTCobra/2015-17 Archive|2015-17]] || [[User talk:SVTCobra/2018 Archive|2018]] || [[User talk:SVTCobra/2019 Archive |2019]] || [[User talk:SVTCobra/2020 Archive|2020]] |- | [[User talk:SVTCobra/2021 Archive|2021]] || [[User talk:SVTCobra/2022 Archive|2022]] || [[User talk:SVTCobra/2023 Archive|2023]] |} ''My talk page is a little goofy right now -- I am working on cleaning it up.'' == My talk archive #1 == [[User:Bddpaux/Archive 1]] == My talk archive #2 == [[User:Bddpaux/Archive 2]] == My talk archive #3 == [[User:Bddpaux/Archive 3]] == My talk archive #4 == [[User:Bddpaux/Archive 4]] == I could use some help de-escalating a situation == I've tried to pull back and keep my comments to a minimum and not make things personal, but that doesn't work when I'm the only one doing it. Any tips on how to keep the matter of the style guide proposal from spilling any further out of control? I'm worried the matter will get tag-teamed into an artificial closure before the community has a chance to judge it on its merits. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 04:35, 3 March 2019 (UTC) :The relevant link [[Wikinews_talk:Style_guide#Disputes_about_use_of_present_tense_could_be_avoided_by_updating_this_guide|here]] [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:02, 3 March 2019 (UTC) == [[Former Trump advisor, Paul Manafort, receives second sentence in U.S. Federal Court]] == Thanks for writing this story. It appears to be published now. --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 18:59, 15 March 2019 (UTC) : I've submitted an edit to the article, which is now pending review. {{hidden use|User:Gryllida}} --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 19:16, 15 March 2019 (UTC) == [[User_talk:Zanimum#Fur_Suit%3F%3F|replied]] == --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 18:44, 21 March 2019 (UTC) == Thank you for looking at the reports, Bddpaux == [[File:Fancy Mouse.jpg|thumb|right]] Thank you for generously and attentively looking at the reports today, and for asking questions at their talk pages and at the talk pages of the authors. I really appreciate it! --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:08, 21 March 2019 (UTC) == Heated moment on fire article: A request == I would like you to remove your talk page post on the "small fire" article. It includes name-calling. There's other stuff there, of course, but I picked that to mention because it's not subjective, and it would be enough by itself. I'd like to take your complaints seriously, but I don't feel I can do that if they come in that form. That post puts me in a position in which I feel I have to defend myself, or at least redirect the conversation. I do not mind if you delete this post of mine with this request. Might be better if you did. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 01:26, 28 March 2019 (UTC) :Defend yourself from what? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:35, 28 March 2019 (UTC) ::From the stuff in B's post. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 02:37, 28 March 2019 (UTC) :::There is something to defend from in it? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:11, 28 March 2019 (UTC) ::::Yes. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 03:49, 28 March 2019 (UTC) :::::Defending implies denial, and no progress. Is there a better reaction? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:26, 28 March 2019 (UTC) :Tell you what: nope, I won't. Yeah, about 2 hours after I posted it, I felt slightly badly about it, and sure, it's a bit uncivil. But:''you're a lot of trouble to deal with''...you are. So here's the deal: You want it gone? You delete it. I'm not deleting it. I said it and that's that. Furthermore, I'm not engaging in ANY direct dialog with you for the next 90 days....won't do it. How's that for 'creepy'? I will try to do minor editing to improve your pending articles, but I won't review any of your articles or engage in any discussions involving you during that time. Consider yourself ghost'ed by me for the next 90. How 'bout you just report the news for a while? That'd be nice....I'll do a bit of janitorial work for you during that time....but you and I? We're on a 'break'. --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 04:04, 28 March 2019 (UTC) == For the Facebook leak story, the notes are available in scoop. Sorry that they were not detailed at the article talk page: they are discussed at the author's talk page... Please re-review the story as soon as you can. Thank you. == --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:11, 5 April 2019 (UTC) == Please review == Hi Bddpaux Please review: Current review queue as of 22:51, 18 April 2019 (UTC): * 18 April 2019: [[Donation drive raises over US$1 million to rebuild Louisiana churches after Notre Dame de Paris also catches fire]] * 17 April 2019: [[Sudanese protesters protect defense ministry sit-in]] * 17 April 2019: [[Officials find fire alarm sounded 23 minutes before the fire was reported in Notre Dame, Paris]] * 7 April 2019: [[Students compete in world's second Neurosurgery Olympiad in Tyumen, Russia]] For inspiration here is a Kołacz and some honey: [[File:Kołacz.JPG|x200px|{{image source|KitkatJohn1}}]] [[File:Med u sacu karlovic1.jpg|x200px|{{image source|akarlovic}}]] Happy holidays, --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:51, 18 April 2019 (UTC) == Re: [[Talk:Wikinews_attends_Maker_Faire_in_Tyler,_Texas(US)]] == Hi Bddpaux :-) There are a couple remarks at the talk page. I hope you are able to find the attendance count for this event. What is your time zone? --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:16, 30 April 2019 (UTC) == User:Dehgel accreditation request == If you wish to ask this user something that is relevant to the request, please do so at [[Wikinews:Accreditation requests/Deh Saaduddin]]. Asking on their talk page is not helpful to others when evaluating how to vote and is burdensome for the applicant if everyone needs to be answered individually. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 20:16, 22 August 2019 (UTC) == [[Dozens dead in California boat fire]] == {{user:Bawolff/card|Thanks for your hard work reviewing this story, fact checking, cleaning the layout and clarifying the dates. This is amazing. 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I pinged you previously, but there was no response. This may be the last notification before the vote is closed. Also, merry Christmas! --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:46, 25 December 2019 (UTC) == [[Talk:Tom Hanks and his wife catch coronavirus]] == Could you please delete this talk page? I've moved the old one to userspace, as the article is going to get deleted. [[User:ICameHereForNews|ICameHereForNews]] ([[User talk:ICameHereForNews|talk]]) 21:34, 22 March 2020 (UTC) :Appears to've been deleted already......wow.... I guess I really am ''that'' amazing!! --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:59, 25 March 2020 (UTC) == Authentication? == I sent you another email re documentation for the interview, but haven't heard back from you... --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 23:18, 25 March 2020 (UTC) :Responded to your email. --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:01, 26 March 2020 (UTC) :: Got it. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 16:51, 26 March 2020 (UTC) == Good to have you back, Bddpaux! == Hi, it is soo good to see you [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Bddpaux&diff=4579197&oldid=4554022 back!] Are we getting some good ORs? {{smiley}} What was your masters about? also, do you mind joining IRC later this morning? It will be good to have a reunion -- please register your nick, though. Again, welcome back!<br>[[Special:Contributions/103.254.128.138|103.254.128.138]] ([[User talk:103.254.128.138|talk]]) 10:17, 22 August 2020 (UTC) :Many thanks for helping with [[Wikinews 2020: An 'Original reporting' year in review|original reporting this year]]. Happy New Year. --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:51, 1 January 2021 (UTC) == Your criteria == Hi {{PAGENAME}} Re:<blockquote>ask yourself, "Would a school teacher in Manila care about this? What about a waiter in Sydney or a young mother in Hong Kong?" The answer should be a quick 'Yes', or you might be wasting your time here </blockquote> The articles on he main page today are: * [[Football: Chelsea appoints Thomas Tuchel as manager following Lampard sacking]] * [[Football: Chelsea sacks Frank Lampard as club's manager]] * [[World Trade Organization declares US tariff hike illegal, rules in South Korea's favour]] * [[Explosion after gas leakage in Madrid residential building kills four]] * [[Uruguayan Language Academy rejects FA sanction against Edinson Cavani as 'poverty of cultural and linguistic knowledge']] * [[Wikinews 2020: An 'Original reporting' year in review]] I doubt any of those are of interest to the waiter or the mother above Cheers, [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 02:45, 3 February 2021 (UTC) :{{re|Ottawahitech}} Let's keep football articles aside, because football is the most popular sport, and people in any country do care about their favourite clubs. OR year in review contains tonnes of OR, some of them are from Australia, so satisfies the waiter in Sydney. Uruguayan Language academy news is relevant to people with different language, and how a first-world organisation treats other's traditions, and customs (checks for school teacher in Manila as well as young mother in Hong Kong. Explosion article is again, relevant to the waiter, who might want to reconsider asking the restaurant to check if their cooking area complies with health and safety regulation. WTO's article seems relevant for people in the South East Asia, how their commute might be affected by this decision. Think about it.<br>[[Special:Contributions/103.48.106.16|103.48.106.16]] ([[User talk:103.48.106.16|talk]]) 06:20, 3 February 2021 (UTC) ::{{re|Ottawahitech}} The three that I wrote made international news. Indeed, I am not in Spain but it was in my country's news. English football is followed across the world. I don't think the comment is supposed to be taken so literally, I think the ''spirit'' of what he is trying to say is make sure people in different countries will care. --[[User:ImprovedWikiImprovment|IWI]] ([[User talk:ImprovedWikiImprovment|talk]]) 12:27, 3 February 2021 (UTC) :Ummmmmmm, yes:''exactly''. But: I'm happy to see someone engaged in the project! --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:39, 3 February 2021 (UTC) ::: We do publish local news, the lower bound mentioned in the guidelines being the [[WN:CARCRASH|car-crash test]]. My understanding of writing for an international audience is that an international reader should be able to understand what the article is about and understand why the story would be of interest to some readers (beyond which it becomes a matter of personal interest or curiosity). --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 12:53, 3 February 2021 (UTC) == iMsg == Hi, Bddpaux, I have send an iMessage to your number (mentioned on your userpage).<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 17:32, 18 February 2021 (UTC) == Any shot at reviewing an interview? == Hey, Bddpaux. I was wondering if you could review [[Living with HIV during COVID-19: Wikinews talks to HIV-positive sex workers about how pandemic has affected their lives]] by any chance? I really worked hard, collaboaring with a friend of mine, and it would be a great favour if you can review it!<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 17:24, 9 March 2021 (UTC) == Heads up == Im going to attempt to make a article but i go slow and sorry but i need to edit in spurts. If im a problem please revert my edits, thank you. [[User:Durantnba|Durantnba]] ([[User talk:Durantnba|talk]]) 03:16, 16 June 2021 (UTC) == "A bit more time" == Why? Why give them extra time? --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:32, 16 June 2021 (UTC) :"Abandoned articles — Unpublished articles that have not been edited for four days should be marked with {{tl|subst:aband}} and deleted two days later, permitting that no other edits have been made since then. (Per common sense, removing the abandoned article template doesn't count as an edit, unless it is bundled with another change.)" See [[WN:ABANDON]]. It had been < three days when you marked it "delete".<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 03:41, 16 June 2021 (UTC) ::Firstly: I appreciate your eagerness [no sarcasm!!]....I do! For a newbie, your output has been in the upper stratosphere and of excellent quality too! I think you RAWK! But: at the end of the day....a wiki is supposed to be about ''community''. Now, there are ALL MANNER of goofballs, etc. who show up here and want to be thought of as a Rockstar within 15 minutes....and that doesn't work. One has to establish their 'street cred', as-it-were. So, the simple answer is: I'm extended a bit of niceness. Do I think that will turn into a publishable article? Absolutely not. But we have time (so-to-speak) to give the contributor a gentle nudge. As Acagastya points out, the rule is 4 days. If my math is right, I think you dropped in the template about 65 hours after first submission, which is a hair too quick. --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:08, 16 June 2021 (UTC) == Somalia article == Could you review it? --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 18:47, 16 June 2021 (UTC) :I'm sorry. I'm swamped with work stuff right now. I will be afk for about the next 20 hours, or so.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:06, 16 June 2021 (UTC) ::I understand, thanks. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 21:23, 16 June 2021 (UTC) == Heyy == Thanks for the information you gave me, it's been really helpful 😇❤️ [[User:Chelsea Jafta|Chelsea Jafta]] ([[User talk:Chelsea Jafta|talk]]) 12:09, 19 June 2021 (UTC) == July Halloween == Just an acknowledgement (ACK), I got the email sent to scoop about it. Looking forward to it! Though be careful!<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 15:59, 16 July 2021 (UTC) :Thanks. It will be fun!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:14, 16 July 2021 (UTC) == Checkuser vote == Hello. Please could you close my [[:WN:Requests for permissions#Green Giant (talk · contribs) — Checkuser|Checkuser vote]]. It has been open for just over 2 weeks, with 25 support votes. This meets the minimum requirements set out on the page and at Meta. I have closed the vote for Acagastya. Cheers. --[[User:Green Giant|Green Giant]] ([[User talk:Green Giant|talk]]) 21:49, 27 July 2021 (UTC) :Sure thing. Busy now. Give me 24 hours. Could you also remind (''pressure, even'')Gryllida to close/deal with our 'Crat nominations? We need more 'Crats around here.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 22:39, 27 July 2021 (UTC) == More userspace pages == Hi. These are the other pages I found in your userspace after searching for draft articles: * [[:User:Bddpaux/At least four dead, as tornadoes strike parts of Northeast Texas]] - April/May 2017 * [[:User:Bddpaux/Citizens express both praise and worries over Texas rains]] - June/July 2014 * [[:User:Bddpaux/Drought conditions across much of US impacting fracking activity]] - August 2012 * [[:User:Bddpaux/Much of Texas plagued by weather problems]] - May/June 2013 * [[:User:Bddpaux/Noted magician, Aldo Colombini dies following stroke]] - February 2014 * [[:User:Bddpaux/Reports indicate US retail sales brisk despite much disapproval of early 'Black Friday' store openings]] - November 2012 * [[:User:Bddpaux/Texas woman celebrates 40 years in state public service]] - August 2012 * [[:User:Bddpaux/Wikinews interviews member of the Texas Nationalist Movement]] - December 2012 --[[User:Green Giant|Green Giant]] ([[User talk:Green Giant|talk]]) 23:49, 27 July 2021 (UTC) :Gotcha. Give me a few days and I'll zap them myself.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 00:10, 28 July 2021 (UTC) == Re the communications == Hi, Bddpaux. If you are seeking admin/crat assistance, you could let the people know via IRC, if they don't check their talk pages as frequently. In case if you are having trouble with IRC, let me know -- I can help you with it.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 04:02, 28 July 2021 (UTC) :OK, I've never been a big IRC person, but I may do that.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 11:40, 28 July 2021 (UTC) == ArbCom 2021 == Hi Bddpaux. I was wondering if you'd be willing to stand for [[Wikinews:Arbitration Committee/2021 election/Nominations and voting|ArbCom]] this year? If you don't wish to nominate yourself, I would be happy to nominate you.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 07:50, 29 July 2021 (UTC) *Sure.....feel free to nominate me.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:06, 29 July 2021 (UTC) == page protection == Hi, post-publication, edit=autoconfirmed (indef) and move=admin (indef) please -- you are keeping edit=admin (indef).<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 16:59, 30 July 2021 (UTC) : OK—[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC) == 'crat granted == Hello Bddpaux, Congratulations - you're now a bureaucrat. I am most grateful for your commitment and dedication to the admin and reviewing responsibilities here. Keep up the great work. Regards, --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:35, 1 August 2021 (UTC) == I am new here == Hello. I am a Nigerian Blogger and a Journalist. I want to Update Wikinews for Nigeria. How do I go about it. I have made 4 updates already but I want to become a registered user or member. Thanks == What to do? == Can you suggest what can I do with the omicron article? No major news is available currently for it. Shall I put it for deletion? [[User:2006nishan178713|2006nishan178713]] ([[User talk:2006nishan178713|talk]]) 17:35, 12 December 2021 (UTC) :Well, there are a number of things you could do....you could use it as the framework for a recent article about an outbreak in some city (as one example). So I Google'd "Omicron +largest +outbreak" and got about 70 articles from the past 24 hours. Freshening up an article is a bit of an art form unto itself.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:07, 12 December 2021 (UTC) ::Okay! [[User:2006nishan178713|2006nishan178713]] ([[User talk:2006nishan178713|talk]]) 15:57, 14 December 2021 (UTC) == How we will see unregistered users == <section begin=content/> Hi! You get this message because you are an admin on a Wikimedia wiki. When someone edits a Wikimedia wiki without being logged in today, we show their IP address. As you may already know, we will not be able to do this in the future. This is a decision by the Wikimedia Foundation Legal department, because norms and regulations for privacy online have changed. Instead of the IP we will show a masked identity. You as an admin '''will still be able to access the IP'''. There will also be a new user right for those who need to see the full IPs of unregistered users to fight vandalism, harassment and spam without being admins. Patrollers will also see part of the IP even without this user right. We are also working on [[m:IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation/Improving tools|better tools]] to help. 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Thank you. /[[m:User:Johan (WMF)|Johan (WMF)]]<section end=content/> 18:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:Johan (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Johan_(WMF)/Target_lists/Admins2022(3)&oldid=22532499 --> == [[American Museum of Natural History removes statue of Theodore Roosevelt]] == Hi, since you reviewed this article, I think you may be in the best position sight the subsequent edits. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 06:11, 29 January 2022 (UTC) == Temporary change to article length == Hello. I know you know this but just as a courtesy, this note is to let you know we are implementing a trial from February 1 to April 30 to encourage more articles to be published per the outcome of a current [[:Special:Diff/4659525|proposal]]. The minimum requirements for [[:WN:LENGTH|article length]] will be one paragraph of at least a hundred words. At the end of the trial the requirements will return to normal (3 paragraphs etc) and there will be an evaluation discussion about the trial. Happy reviewing! ['''[[:User:Cromium|₂₄Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 23:18, 31 January 2022 (UTC) :Yep! Great!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:10, 1 February 2022 (UTC) == Publishing after review == Hi. Don't forget to protect published articles per the standard protection policy (edit=auto-confirmed and move=admin only). Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 15:03, 28 February 2022 (UTC) == Justin Bieber postpones three Justice tour dates due to illness == Hi {{PAGENAME}}, I just noticed that [[Justin Bieber postpones three Justice tour dates due to illness]], which you placed an '''abandoned''' tag on at '''21:05, 13 June 2022‎''', is now showing up in the queue for '''Collaboration requests''' in the newsroom. Is this intentional? Just curious, [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 19:26, 14 June 2022 (UTC) :{{re|Ottawahitech}} yes that is intentional. It happens with the Aband template and aims to encourage others to help "un-abandon" the article. ['''[[:User:Cromium|₂₄Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 20:04, 14 June 2022 (UTC) ::Hmmmmm, news to me...but:that's clever!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:28, 14 June 2022 (UTC) == Temporary change to freshness == Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from July 4 to October 4 to enable more articles to be reviewed per the outcome of a current [[:Special:Diff/4682800|proposal]]. The freshness window is being extended to about five to seven days. At the end of the trial the window will continue to be at 5-7 days while we discuss whether to adopt the change permanently or not. Happy reviewing! ['''[[:User:Cromium|₂₄Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 17:39, 4 July 2022 (UTC) == [[:High potential for wildfires across Texas for several days]] == Published. Nice article. ['''[[:User:Cromium|₂₄Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 17:08, 13 July 2022 (UTC) == E-mail == I saw you asked someone else about e-mail and it became clear that it was because you are having problems using it. Are you trying to use a wikinewsie.org address? If so, I think that domain has probably lapsed. I think Acagastya took the lead in recovering data from there and setting up the newer [wn-reporters.org]. We can probably ping Acagastya if you have something to ask them. [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 19:35, 25 July 2022 (UTC) :Yeah, I did. No response. I just want to know if he's stopped paying for it, or what.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:14, 25 July 2022 (UTC) == Re: [[User talk:Amgine#So...|]] == <span class="plainlinks">[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous&diff=prev&oldid=4656266 Challenge]</span>, [[User:Amgine/Reboot]]. &lt;?php if( (api.php?action=query&titles=User:Amgine/Reboot&prop=4656268&rvpropr=timestamp) + (60*60*24*7) > time() ) { // Sprint complete, assess results } ?> <span style="font: brush 10pt/12pt cursive;"><span style="font-variant: small-caps;">[[User:Amgine|Amgine]]</span> | <span style="position: relative; top: -0.5em; font-size: 80%;">[[User talk:Amgine|t]]</span></span> 04:09, 26 July 2022 (UTC) :I am not terribly sure how I feel about 'user space' articles.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:17, 26 July 2022 (UTC) ::Please check the talk page for this strange little pseudo sock puppet you've set up. I will trust you to do the right thing.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:36, 10 August 2022 (UTC) ::: <span class="plainlinks">[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Amgine/Reboot&oldid=4686439 r]</span> - <span style="font: brush 10pt/12pt cursive;"><span style="font-variant: small-caps;">[[User:Amgine|Amgine]]</span> | <span style="position: relative; top: -0.5em; font-size: 80%;">[[User talk:Amgine|t]]</span></span> 06:32, 11 August 2022 (UTC) == [[Inaugural African Protected Areas Congress closes]] == Hi. I just noticed you did not protect this article after you reviewed it. Also, you did not put it ''on the front page'' by making it a lead article. Just a friendly reminder of the things reviewers do. Cheers, [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 18:56, 10 August 2022 (UTC) :Well...''I tried.'' I pushed the 'button' to put it on the front page, but nothing happened. I even asked (maybe at Water Cooler) how to go back and make that happen manually. (Do you know how?) Yeah, every once in a while, I forget to protect articles. I will watch that more carefully. I am out-of-sorts for the next several days, though.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:02, 10 August 2022 (UTC) ::If the option did not present itself when publishing, the top story always has a [ML] link which will take you to [[Wikinews:Make lead]]. Each of the five leads also have a [+] link which should allow you to change them individually if needed. I hope that helps, cheers, [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 21:34, 10 August 2022 (UTC) == [[:Texas identifies first death involving monkeypox]] == Just on the edge of freshness. Published under a shorter name than it had earlier. ['''[[:User:Cromium|₂₄Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 23:24, 6 September 2022 (UTC) == Ukraine map in [[Template:Lead article 2]] == Could you please replace the Ukraine map in this template with [[2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine (unprotected).svg]] this one? Since the map is included in a main page it has been auto fully-protected, preventing users from updating the rapidly changing map. Thank you. [[User:Viewsridge|Viewsridge]] ([[User talk:Viewsridge|talk]]) 06:53, 28 September 2022 (UTC) :{{done}} -- [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 10:58, 28 September 2022 (UTC) == One permission removal request to review == I wonder whether you can review this: [[Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Removal/Blood Red Sandman]]. [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 06:42, 29 November 2022 (UTC) == [[Wikinews:Writing contest 2023]] == Hello. We've created [[Wikinews:Writing contest 2023]], which will start on February 1 and end on May 1. It is modeled on the successful 2010 and 2013 contests. As a reviewer and accredited reporter, it would be a great time for you. If you are interested in signing up, please do so at [[Wikinews:Writing contest 2023#Entrants]] and [[Wikinews:Writing contest 2023#Point scoring|create a category for the articles you submit]]. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 04:01, 27 January 2023 (UTC) == Your free advice == Hi Paul. On your user page you have the following quote: {{color|green|"Within the first 3 sentences of any article you're writing, ask yourself, "Would a school teacher in Manila care about this? What about a waiter in Sydney or a young mother in Hong Kong?" The answer should be a quick 'Yes', or you might be wasting your time here: this is an international news site. Thusly, we serve a large audience.}} Not too long ago, a reviewer cited this quote as a reason for declining an [[WN:OR|original]] article. The article had other problems, but nevertheless, it peaked my interest. You have multiple articles, especially OR, which do not meet this standard. At least, I don't think "[[Wikinews attends 2021 Texas Haunters Convention]]" would have strong appeal to a school teacher in Manila, a waiter in Sydney, or a young mother in Hong Kong.<br>Therefore, I appeal to you to modify or remove those sentences from your user page. I think local news should be encouraged; especially original reporting. What you say as a reviewer, administrator and bureaucrat can be very influential. Cheers, [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 00:41, 26 April 2023 (UTC) : I agree, and: done. This business of 'Newsworthiness' has ALWAYS been bound up in some opionated fluffery, and maybe it always will be. I was (maybe clumsily) trying to convey that we have a BROAD array of peoples/cultures to whom our stuff should appeal (hopefully). VERY local things can absolutely appeal to many people -- and should always be encouraged here. To put a not-so-fine point on it: Right now, we just need good news being submitted by good reporters. Also: see the disclaimer I added to my page.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:33, 26 April 2023 (UTC) == Heavy Water == Hi Paul. You wrote to Heavy Water: {{color|green|I'm fairly certain you may be the very first person (at least in a decade) around here to receive accreditation out-of-order. So, you've been a Reviewer for a bit now, and I just made you an Accredited Reporter. Go forth and do good deeds!}}<br>What exactly did you do besides add {{tl|archive top}} to the AR? See the [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Accreditation_requests/Heavy_Water&diff=prev&oldid=4723768 diff]. You even left the status as "open". How exactly did you 'make' Heavy Water an accredited reporter? Did you verify their identity and real name and set up an email account on wn-reporters.org as per [[Wikinews:Accreditation policy]]?<br>Being accredited is not a wiki permission and does not show up in user groups or user rights logs. Also, I thought we discussed this notion of 'out of order'. There is no order. Accredited is not part of a hierarchy of user rights. {{color|blue|Reviewer → Administrator → Bureaucrat → Checkuser}} is the only order I know of. Accredited is entirely outside of this system. And, indeed, at least one user has achieved all of those levels within the last decade without ever being accredited. Cheers, [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 11:13, 2 May 2023 (UTC) :Well. Yeah. OK. It'd been a while since I've done any of these actions, so I'm a bit rusty -- most especially on setting up the email. So, to that point: how is the email set up? --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:28, 2 May 2023 (UTC) ::I don't know, which is why I didn't close the AR earlier. I think only Gryllidia and Acagastya can do it. [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 16:10, 2 May 2023 (UTC) :::Yeah, I left Gryllida a message about email. I have/had an account. Just not sure what my status is around those parts... I need to get that sorted out and set up correctly. I am also working on getting Heavy Water's accreditation "card" set up properly, but knowing the proper wn email address/situation would be very helpful. Can you log in to you wn email account?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:17, 2 May 2023 (UTC) ::::No. I had one on wikinewsie.org, but not one on wn-reporters.org ... also I am not accredited myself. Cheers, [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 16:50, 2 May 2023 (UTC) :::::Well: maybe we should do something about that...?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:56, 2 May 2023 (UTC) ::::::Maybe I should have a wn-reporters account. It would be useful to have access to Scoop. But I don't really want to be accredited. Cheers, [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 00:47, 3 May 2023 (UTC) == Revdels == Hey, can you revdel [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Ukraine:_Author_Victoria_Amelina_dies_after_Kramatorsk_missile_strike&oldid=4735287 this] and [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Ukraine:_Author_Victoria_Amelina_dies_after_Kramatorsk_missile_strike&oldid=4735288 this]? A newbie copied stuff from ''The Guardian''. Thanks, [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 21:49, 3 July 2023 (UTC) :Also, can you semi-protect [[Talk:Jan Nowak-Jezioranski Dies]]? WMF-banned {{w|WP:LTA/GRP|GRP}} is targeting it. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 16:00, 7 July 2023 (UTC) ::Done, and blocked that IP for a short time as well.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:45, 7 July 2023 (UTC) == Chick filet user creating vandalism. == Just a heads up! [[User:HushPuppie280|HushPuppie280]] ([[User talk:HushPuppie280|talk]]) 21:51, 6 July 2023 (UTC) :Well, I am not entirely understanding what is so disruptive about their actions...?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:55, 6 July 2023 (UTC) ::their undoing things everywhere, Bdd im not joking around..... [[User:HushPuppie280|HushPuppie280]] ([[User talk:HushPuppie280|talk]]) 21:57, 6 July 2023 (UTC) ::look at my user page history. [[User:HushPuppie280|HushPuppie280]] ([[User talk:HushPuppie280|talk]]) 22:00, 6 July 2023 (UTC) ::Thank you! [[User:HushPuppie280|HushPuppie280]] ([[User talk:HushPuppie280|talk]]) 22:05, 6 July 2023 (UTC) :::To what should be no one's surprise, {{noping|Chicke-falae}} has returned to vandalize after the block expired. Please also standard-protect [[:Category:Zoological Society of London]], [[:Category:Species endangerment]], and [[:Category:Species discovery]], which this LTA targets. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 00:59, 10 July 2023 (UTC) == [[Heatwaves surge worldwide as global temperatures reach new highs|High temperature article]] == Hi, I think that you may have forgotten to complete the review after adding the "Under review" tag. I understand that you might be busy in real life, and I apologize for disturbing you. However, could you please mark the article as "pass" or "fail," or perhaps remove the "under review" tag? I think there is a possibility that the story might become stale. Thank you for your consideration. Regards, --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 20:02, 10 July 2023 (UTC) == A Hope! == Hey! I hope this will just be a short wikibreak and not a retirement. Wikinews truly needs your expertise and contributions, just like Heavy Water. It would be wonderful to see everyone working together. I believe a patch-up is on the horizon! Also, I wanted to express my gratitude for all the help you've provided throughout my Wikinews journey. I look forward to crossing paths with you again in the future. Take care and see you soon! [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 22:45, 12 July 2023 (UTC) :I appreciate the comment. I have not retired. I am just going to be somewhat scarce for a while. I have many other things going on.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:39, 13 July 2023 (UTC) == Email passwd == Hi, I have emailed you the temp password and the details to how to reset it. Please let me know if you face any troubles. [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 12:54, 1 October 2023 (UTC) :::Well..... that didn't work either. Nevermind. I'm out.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:54, 2 October 2023 (UTC) == social media (cross-posted to all members of reviewer group) == Hi, [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous#social_media_for_reviewers_and_authors_and_developers]] may be of interest to you as a reviewer, thanks and regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:53, 12 December 2023 (UTC) == [[Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Removal/TUFKAAP]] == Wanna review [[Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Removal/TUFKAAP]] as a bureaucrat? [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 03:58, 15 February 2024 (UTC) Still wanna close the discussion, or shall I ask the stewards then? --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 22:14, 16 April 2024 (UTC) It's been a month already, so what will you do about the request? --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 00:26, 19 May 2024 (UTC) == Requesting a review == Hi @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]], I see you are the third-most active reviewer left here. I was wondering if you could review my article [[Three world records surprisingly set at the 2024 USA Indoor Track and Field Championships|here]], or if not, if you could approve [[Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions/Asheiou|Asheiou's RfP here]] so that they can become a reviewer and help with it. It took me a while to write, so I am trying to at least get it reviewed before it goes stale and gets deleted. I greatly appreciate you volunteering time, and I would love to pay it forward by helping with the review backlog myself once I am more experienced. Thank you, --[[User:Habst|Habst]] ([[User talk:Habst|talk]]) 01:03, 21 February 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]], I wanted to ping you again as I have Gatwicked the article into a new form here: [[World Athletics Indoor Championships concludes in Glasgow with new world records and significant wins]]. I fear that this might be its last chance to get reviewed and published, so I'd really appreciate your help. I noticed there have been no new articles published since January 4th, so I think there is an inactivity problem that needs to be addressed. Thank you and with respect, --[[User:Habst|Habst]] ([[User talk:Habst|talk]]) 14:29, 5 March 2024 (UTC) ::I have resigned all involvement here, except as a Reporter. Sorry.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:50, 20 March 2024 (UTC) == Talkback at my talk page == {{talkback}} [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|talk]]) 06:14, 21 March 2024 (UTC) == You got mail == I sent you an email for revdel please. Thanks and edit well! - [[User:PotsdamLamb|PDL]]^{[[User Talk:PotsdamLamb|Talk to me!]]}_{[[Special:Contributions/PotsdamLamb|Please don't eat da 🐑!]]} 12:26, 26 March 2024 (UTC) :If I'm reading correctly, I think it has been done.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:14, 26 March 2024 (UTC) ::And: please look at your talk page here.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:16, 26 March 2024 (UTC) == Hi == How can I add or edit a biography. [[User:Trcvs|Trcvs]] ([[User talk:Trcvs|talk]]) 20:00, 26 March 2024 (UTC) :@Trcvs Well: who are we talking about?—[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:21, 26 March 2024 (UTC) ::FYI I added user to garv as spam/spam bot if you can block them here. All of their edits are spam. Thanks and edit well! - [[User:PotsdamLamb|PDL]]^{[[User Talk:PotsdamLamb|Talk to me!]]}_{[[Special:Contributions/PotsdamLamb|Please don't eat da 🐑!]]} 21:49, 26 March 2024 (UTC) :::[I'm chuckling] Sorry, can you help with me with your acronyms.... 'garv'??--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 22:14, 26 March 2024 (UTC) ::::Not sure either it’s global account reporting something [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Global Meta steward request ] Thanks and edit well! - [[User:PotsdamLamb|PDL]]^{[[User Talk:PotsdamLamb|Talk to me!]]}_{[[Special:Contributions/PotsdamLamb|Please don't eat da 🐑!]]} 23:14, 26 March 2024 (UTC) == Woman on fire article == Hi, I left a message on the stories talk page you might want to read, apologies in advance. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:41, 31 March 2024 (UTC) == Comment for [[special:redirect/logid/4051887]] == For your information, the user will not have any more chances due to [[:m:special:diff/26533991]]. Please have a look at their global contributions. Thank you for your attention. [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|talk]]) 02:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC) :No argument here.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:30, 3 April 2024 (UTC) == Please revert [[special:redirect/logid/4052337]] == Hello, we recently had page move vandalism. I have reverted all moves without redirecting (please note that I can use suppress-redirect as part of global rollback permissions, and this anti-vandalism usage is allowed per [[Wikinews:Global_permissions#Global_rollbackers]]), but since I have no further permissions, I cannot revert page moves with extra history. I also request indefinite move protections for all recently targeted pages (including [[User:BigKrow]], [[User talk:BigKrow]], [[User talk:MathXplore]], [[Wikinews:Sandbox]], [[Wikinews talk:Sandbox]], [[Wikinews:Pillars of writing]], and [[Wikinews talk:Pillars of writing]]). Thank you for your attention. [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|talk]]) 02:30, 6 April 2024 (UTC) == User page == The user you just made a comment on is actually globally locked. :) I think that would qualify or is that wrong? Thanks and edit well! - [[User:PotsdamLamb|PDL]]^{[[User Talk:PotsdamLamb|Talk to me!]]}_{[[Special:Contributions/PotsdamLamb|Please don't eat da 🐑!]]} 16:13, 17 April 2024 (UTC) :Well, probably. Don't know why their User Page and Talk page don't just get automatically deleted when they get blocked. Dealing with vandals here gets ''so exhausting''.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:15, 17 April 2024 (UTC) ::Try doing it on simple :). They only deal with locking for all of WMF, I am sure this would just add to their workload and we would lose them. Thanks and edit well! - [[User:PotsdamLamb|PDL]]^{[[User Talk:PotsdamLamb|Talk to me!]]}_{[[Special:Contributions/PotsdamLamb|Please don't eat da 🐑!]]} 16:16, 17 April 2024 (UTC) :::So it seems I actually cannot do anything on this wiki. Do you have a log or IRC where all edits are made for me to review? For some reason I thought I had rollback rights here, but guess not lol. Thanks and edit well! - [[User:PotsdamLamb|PDL]]^{[[User Talk:PotsdamLamb|Talk to me!]]}_{[[Special:Contributions/PotsdamLamb|Please don't eat da 🐑!]]} 01:39, 19 April 2024 (UTC) == Add the words "days ago" and "days later" instead of dates and don't stale the dates and revised == Edit to avoid stale dates and add the words "days ago" and "days later" instead of dates and revise. [[Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:1F1D:8400:E16F:1BC:E317:D8D9|2607:FEA8:1F1D:8400:E16F:1BC:E317:D8D9]] ([[User talk:2607:FEA8:1F1D:8400:E16F:1BC:E317:D8D9|talk]]) 19:06, 18 April 2024 (UTC) == I noticed == [[Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions|These are still open.]] It should probably be handled and closed :) I would comment in support based on policy, but due to age, I decided against it. I do see they mentioned the lack of reviewers and I would gladly help out, but I haven't published anything. I see you have a very limited amount of reviewers (as is most of your groups). How can I assist you on this project (besides not writing news articles)? Thanks and edit well! - [[User:PotsdamLamb|PDL]]^{[[User Talk:PotsdamLamb|Talk to me!]]}_{[[Special:Contributions/PotsdamLamb|Please don't eat da 🐑!]]} 01:48, 19 April 2024 (UTC) :There is no consensus on either request. Last month, an admin closed the +reviewer request, and I persuaded them this was premature. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 02:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC) ::@[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] Doesn't mean an admin can't go and actually close out the nominations and archive them to get them off the board. Thanks and edit well! - [[User:PotsdamLamb|PDL]]^{[[User Talk:PotsdamLamb|Talk to me!]]}_{[[Special:Contributions/PotsdamLamb|Please don't eat da 🐑!]]} 03:10, 19 April 2024 (UTC) :::Reviewer requests (like other weighty discussions) aren't rushed. Serious ones have usually stayed open for months in modern times. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 03:19, 19 April 2024 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] I am mostly talking about this one [[Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions#Removal of Reviewer status]] hasn't been touched since Sept 2023. I am just trying to help out. Thanks and edit well! - [[User:PotsdamLamb|PDL]]^{[[User Talk:PotsdamLamb|Talk to me!]]}_{[[Special:Contributions/PotsdamLamb|Please don't eat da 🐑!]]} 03:29, 19 April 2024 (UTC) == Recommend blocking anonymous only from 199.212.250.0/24 == I recommend blocking anonymous only from all of 199.212.250/24 for at last 1 year. Both en.wt (for 1 year) and en.wp (for 3 years) have blocked the entire 199.212.250.0/24 range, which is allocated to a school in Canada.[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User:199.212.250.163], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:199.212.250.163] [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 15:51, 26 April 2024 (UTC) == Vandal == ‎Wizzer DaVoz needs blocking! @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:59, 27 April 2024 (UTC) : Please consider (move) protection to your user space. {{ping|BigKrow}} Please be careful when moving pages, you have moved pages to the wrong namespace (you moved it to the portal namespace, [[special:redirect/logid/4055156]]), so I have reverted your move and then reverted the move vandalism. [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|talk]]) 02:23, 27 April 2024 (UTC) ::@[[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] apologies I thought I could fix things.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:28, 27 April 2024 (UTC) ::: You just had to click the revert button when reverting moves. [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|talk]]) 02:28, 27 April 2024 (UTC) ::::Okay I will remember, thanks @[[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:29, 27 April 2024 (UTC) :::::And Wizzer has been globally locked (thanks @[[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]]). [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 13:55, 27 April 2024 (UTC) == IP harassment == This IP keeps bothering you and others, needs looking into... Thanks! @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:40, 29 April 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] IP not stopping also @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:29, 30 April 2024 (UTC) == Reminder to vote now to select members of the first U4C == <section begin="announcement-content" /> :''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2024/Announcement – vote reminder|You can find this message translated into additional languages on Meta-wiki.]] [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=page-{{urlencode:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2024/Announcement – vote reminder}}&language=&action=page&filter= {{int:please-translate}}]'' Dear Wikimedian, You are receiving this message because you previously participated in the UCoC process. This is a reminder that the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) ends on May 9, 2024. Read the information on the [[m:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2024|voting page on Meta-wiki]] to learn more about voting and voter eligibility. The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members were invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please [[m:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Charter|review the U4C Charter]]. Please share this message with members of your community so they can participate as well. On behalf of the UCoC project team,<section end="announcement-content" /> [[m:User:RamzyM (WMF)|RamzyM (WMF)]] 23:17, 2 May 2024 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:RamzyM (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2024/Previous_voters_list&oldid=26721206 --> == IP harrassing again == Now moved to a different user. Same one who was harrassing you. Please block [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 20:51, 20 May 2024 (UTC) == Isn't This Stale == You recently published [[Citizen journalist, Viktor Pinchuk — gives travel presentation in Sevastapol]] even though the event happened on April 22. That is 4 weeks ago and seems [[WN:Stale|stale]] to me. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 20:51, 20 May 2024 (UTC) :It was/is stale. However: this user submits both here and at Russian WN -- based upon his high quality pictorials, we tend to give him a pinch of breathing room, but I probably won't stretch it (time-wise) this far again.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:22, 24 May 2024 (UTC) ::Just saying, but all these things are kind of bordering on promotion. 18 articles on someone not notable enough to be mentioned anywhere else. 18 articles on a writer Russian Wikinews attends a lot? Including 4 in 4 days. I think if anything we need to crack down on how many of these we have, not give double time for something hardly notable. How is it that something like my Biden article, covered much more in media than this, is given half time before considered stale. I know you said not to strecth it, but we need to some way to avoid 80% of the frontpage being filled up with this. Seriously, this is insane.@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 15:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC) ::Never mind, make that quadrule time. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 15:54, 26 May 2024 (UTC) :::[[WN:OR|Original reporting]] gets significant leeway with freshness. Notability &mdash; particularly of a person involved rather than the focal event &mdash; as assessed by "anywhere else" is irrelevant to [[WN:Newsworthiness|newsworthiness]]. That said, I've never been really comfortable with the conflict of interest present, but I allowed it because other people much more experienced than me had, repeatedly. I haven't passed any of these articles since December for that reason. It's good that we're having a conversation about it. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 19:51, 26 May 2024 (UTC) ::::I know nothing prohibits it, but I feel we need to. Imagine if something like the New York Times, BBC, or the Guardian has 80% of it's front page covered in a very specific and not that notable author. At a minimum, I think we need to have something that no more than 1 very similar article can be on the front page at once.@[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]]. Beside, giving it a month while still considered news, is a bit too much. Ever seen a newspapers frontpage with month old news? [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 22:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] I've been confused about this for a while too, especially because [[Citizen journalist, Viktor Pinchuk — gives travel presentation in Sevastapol|this article]] seems to imply Sevastopol is in Russia, which is... {{w|Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation|not in accord with international recognition}}. I've never mentioned anything about it because I fervently do not like to start anything. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 21:42, 3 June 2024 (UTC) : @[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] @[[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] @[[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]] I'm tired and busy with work, but if memory serves, I recently communicated to Viktor that I/we are largely hitting the STOP BUTTON on most of these. His pictorials are (admittedly) fantastic, and the "hobo tourism" conceit is quite clever -- but the whole spider's nest forms a massive network of COI, Navel gazing and puffery. To give him some credit, he did take (marginal) action recently to (after prompting) re-focus the article on the presentation event '''itself'''. I would feel (maybe) more comfortable if he WAS NOT the reporter at RN Wikinews, reporting on an event, where he is giving a talk he gave, covering a trip he took and etc. etc. etc. Get my point? I've (maybe clumsily) tried to draw the line with him. He (and this isn't an insult) tends to try to stack up outside sources (which isn't a crime!) -- but I often can't pull them up ''and'' source material has to properly be glued into the story, as well. Am I making sense here? 9 sources does not automatically make a story "better sourced" than one with 2 sources.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 22:04, 3 June 2024 (UTC) ::That sounds great. [[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]]: Our treatment of disputed regions is something I've been wanting us to discuss for a while. I see that he refers to himself as Russian; I've always allowed him to, since he's probably got both Russian and Ukrainian citizenship, and he seems to identify as Russian (also, that's probably his ethnicity). I think we definitely shouldn't allow articles to say "Sevastapol, Russia", however, as this does. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 03:47, 4 June 2024 (UTC) :::The issue with disputed regions is that what level of recognition do we require to call a region part of one country or another? I'd, for one, not call Kosovo Serbia, despite the fact that it's very disputed. "Sevastopol, Russia" is just flagrant, though. @[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 13:07, 4 June 2024 (UTC) ::::My 2 cents:Just say Sevatsopol, Crimea to avoid the issue altogether@[[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]]@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]@[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 20:41, 4 June 2024 (UTC) :::::Yeah, in this situation we can avoid picking a side by just [[Crimea]]ing. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 21:35, 4 June 2024 (UTC) ::::::"Crimeaing" needs to be a word@[[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 21:36, 4 June 2024 (UTC) :::::::I mean, we already have [[Gatwick]]ing, Crimeaing seems to logically work within the Wikinews jargon. Crimeaing: "removal or rephrasing of content to avoid 'picking a side' in a contentious geopoliticial issue". Amazing. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 21:39, 4 June 2024 (UTC) ::::::::Yeah, seriously I'm think of creating a page for it though...what would be the verb form? Crimea, to Crimea, something else?@[[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 21:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC) :::::::::To Crimea, in the same way we "Gatwick it", we can "Crimea it". [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 21:59, 4 June 2024 (UTC) ::::::::::Actually, I like this idea better@[[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 22:00, 4 June 2024 (UTC) ::::::::Made [[Wikinews:Crimeaing|the page]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 20:16, 5 June 2024 (UTC) :It needs a squiggly thing over it or something!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC) ::Idea:How about Crimeaify?@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 21:58, 4 June 2024 (UTC) == Report == Hello, please check this IP for vandalism: https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2605%3ABA00%3AA128%3A697%3A14BB%3A275%3A872D%3A5F34 Thank you. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 21:52, 11 June 2024 (UTC) :Please report at [[Wikinews:Admin action alerts|WN:AAA]] rather here [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 21:53, 11 June 2024 (UTC) == Re == What is the best way I can communicate with you privately? Is your account email functional? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:40, 25 August 2024 (UTC) :Yes.... my Yahoo email is valid. Shoot me an email over there.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:32, 28 August 2024 (UTC) ::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:00, 28 August 2024 (UTC) == Help with review == Hi (I am messaging all reviewers) Hope you are doing well. Here are submitted for peer review: * [[Photo exhibition “Ethnic features of the world people” took place in the Crimean capital]] * [[On the campaign trail in the USA, June 2024]] *[["Machu Picchu, and not only...", a new photo exhibition by Viktor Pinchuk was held in Crimea]] Could you please review? Even a little edit or just one review would help a lot. (I don't require a commitment to review every day from now on.) Would you like to get notified of new drafts submitted for review? If so, please tell me which topics (or any topic) and where (email, wiki messages, push notification on smart phone, notification in wiki Notifications, or somewhere else). Would you find a [[WN:RNA]] page for reviewers useful, it would be similar to [[WN:AAA]] but intended for reviewers to discuss reviewing and related software. Would you be interested other communications off-wiki to create audio or video contact with other reviewers? I think this online gathering could be an essential part to deduce how to make article authoring and review easier. It could be just 30 minutes a month, and you don't have to participate every time. I would write a meeting minutes note after each session and publish it on-wiki if desired. Thanks! Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:25, 25 August 2024 (UTC) == [[SpaceX will return stranded astronauts in February 2025, NASA announces]] == I am interested to know what could be done better about the second to last paragraph too, when you have a moment (it is low urgency, it can be a week or two later) please follow up. Many thanks for the review! :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:09, 31 August 2024 (UTC) :Could you please advise what are your favourite news topics or a next recent event you found interesting? I'd like to write something together again, if you wouldn't mind and if you're available. Thank you in advance! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:32, 4 September 2024 (UTC) == Please review == I'm posting requests with assistance of Reviewing to [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance]] now and for the next few days, please check? Could you please add this page to watchlist and/or click 'Subscribe' and/or setup email notifications, and check your notifications or emails? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:57, 3 September 2024 (UTC) == [[Around 8,000 Rohingya Muslims have fled to Bangladesh]] == Could you please finish the review? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:14, 10 September 2024 (UTC) :Yes, some work stuff jumped up on me, but I am back at it.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:02, 10 September 2024 (UTC) ::[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?diff=4797383] edit pending review? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:15, 10 September 2024 (UTC) == {{noping|Bdddpaux}} == Can you please confirm whether this is an alternate account of yours? The account has redirected their user and talk pages to yours and requested the removal of your admin and reviewer privs on the grounds of retirement from the project. I'll ask at the request pages for action not to be taken until you give indication either way. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 19:54, 12 September 2024 (UTC) :That is absolutely NOT me. Gryllida has blocked that user. We may need to get a CU involved. —-[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 03:22, 13 September 2024 (UTC) ::I had asked gry to message you about it -- and after receiving the confirmation, I have blocked the imposter. I also CU'd the user, and {{ping|Me Da Wikipedian}} has been caught and blocked for the same. [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 03:48, 13 September 2024 (UTC) :::How peculiar of a thing for someone to do. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 15:38, 13 September 2024 (UTC) ::::I have even had run ins with this user/users? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC) :Really.... just bickering stuff?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 00:20, 17 September 2024 (UTC) ::Yeah but they came across as unreasonable. @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:55, 17 September 2024 (UTC) == Notifications == Hi Bddpaux Could you please '''review something in the next two days or so'''? The review queue is a bit too long. I appear to be unable to handle it alone. Do you read wiki '''notifications'''? I posted a message at water cooler and @mentioned your nick - do you get such messages or would you prefer that I post on your talk page? What is '''the best way to notify you''' of the updates to the review queue, so that you don't miss it? I can send you talk page messages or emails. There is a Subscribe button at the top right of the [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance]] page. If Notifications are readable for you, could you please click it? Then you will be notified of each new added section at that page. (It would help me a lot, as this is the place where I ask for help with my reviewing.) Thank you! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:57, 21 September 2024 (UTC) :Do you use : discord, whatsapp, viber, telegram, irc, jitsi, sip, something else. I would like to connect as complementary to on-wiki work. My contacts are listed on my user page. Thanks! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:37, 5 December 2024 (UTC) ::Generally speaking, I just like to be contacted here at my Talk page, but I do respond to standard email sometimes.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:18, 6 December 2024 (UTC) == please review == i expanded some articles and cannot review them. could you please review a story or two. thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 18:56, 13 December 2024 (UTC) p.s. please vote at [[Wikinews:Requests for permissions]] there are a few open. thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == inline citations == are '''not used in published articles''', only in drafts and during review process, and only because @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] finds them useful. (I delete them on first sight, if I'm the one doing an edit or a review, and replace with a 'BBC said that...' if information came only from one source...) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:39, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :I'm not sure why I'm mentioned here or why this conversation was started, but since I was mentioned and pinged, I will clarify what I find useful; either hidden HTML comments or {{tl|verify}} and I prefer we all (especially authors) start using {{tl|verify}}. I do not find traditional, wikipedia-style in-line references useful, but if an author uses them effectively, I find them better than nothing. :I agree that if the author writes 'BBC said that...', we know where they sourced that information. However, we still need to verify information that the author has not attributed through prose. In those cases, in-line citations make it much easier and quicker for the reviewer. :I created {{tl|verify}} in an attempt to improve the review process[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Michael.C.Wright/sandbox/The_problem#Review_and_developing_markup] for all reviewers and authors. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 14:40, 14 December 2024 (UTC) ::I would also mention that if authors are required to use {{tl|verify}}, it could ingrain the habit of sourcing all statements and possibly eliminate the problem of unsourced statements. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 14:50, 14 December 2024 (UTC) == Thank you == For the help with clearing very old articles. {{Ping|Bddpaux}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:21, 16 December 2024 (UTC) == scoop access == is thunderbird working for you? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:01, 14 January 2025 (UTC) :By the way, thanks for being around and for helping with admin stuff. I appreciate that very much. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:25, 28 January 2025 (UTC) ::Sure! And, I promise I am going to get righteous on Thunderbird soon! I have been swamped with work recently!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:07, 30 January 2025 (UTC) == Lead shuffle == I can do the lead shuffle for you for [[Passenger plane collides with military helicopter near Washington, D.C.]] if you'd like. I don't mind and have a process that is relatively quick/easy for me at the moment. It looks like the widget is close to getting put into production[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Lead_Manager_script], but not quite ready yet. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:34, 31 January 2025 (UTC) == [[17-year-old girl fatally attacked by shark off Bribie Island]] == Could you please take a look at this article? It has been three days and it has still not been reviewed. [[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] ([[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|talk]]) 11:08, 7 February 2025 (UTC) :I reviewed and published this article after moving it to [[Shark fatally bites 17-year-old off Bribie Island]]. 👍 —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:02, 7 February 2025 (UTC) ::👍 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:53, 26 February 2025 (UTC) == Subscription == Hi, :-) I just wanted to check whether you see a "unsubscribe" button on each of the water coolers linked at [[Wikinews:Water cooler]] (I think there are about 5 subpages)? If it's not there, please consider clicking "subscribe"?? And ensuring you either login to the wiki at least once daily, or have the notifications delivered to wmail which is checked at least daily. (replace "daily" with some indication of a regular check that is convenient to you) If you can only subscribe to one Water cooler, please subscribe to the "assistance" one. Please let me know how this goes, it would be greatly appreciated. :-) Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 18:23, 27 February 2025 (UTC) == Top article in January! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in January, 2025. The article has at least 1,558 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[US President Trump orders government recognize male, female as only sexes]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in January of 2025. Thank you for your continued contributions! —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:00, 3 March 2025 (UTC) {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image--> == Re: revitalising Wikinews == Hi, I'm reaching out to you as you indicated support for revitalising Wikinews. Here are a few ways to help out, in no particular order: # write new articles by [[WN:SG|style guide]] and [[WN:CG|content guide]] # find news which happened today and share it on [[WN:IRC|live chat]] or [[WN:REQ|a news tip page]] # read drafts in [[Newsroom]], especially those submitted for review, and edit them to make them more comprehensive or more current # read drafts in [[Newsroom]], especially those that failed review recently, and address reviewer's comments quickly and re-submit for review # chat with new authors (of articles in Newsroom) and help them understand the key concepts # subscribe at [[Wikinews:Water cooler]] (there are 5 subforums, open each and click 'Subscribe' link at top - then keep a close eye on your Echo notifications) to help newcomers and help with editing articles when someone requests assistance # chat on [[WN:IRC|live chat]] and help newcomers and reviewers with their review process # help with software development for authoring or reviewing articles, perhaps for the mobile platforms # chat with other contributors on audio or video chat # present notes about how Wikinews works at various conferences via audio and video communucations [as we don't have funds for travel at present] this can be linux, programming, journalistical, or wikimedia themed conferences # figure out how to get someone to do any of the above through a grant, sometimes google summer of code # find high school and university educators who would like to teach their class journalism by asking them to write articles for Wikinews (was done with [[Category:UoW|University of Wollongong]] in the past, and we have extension installed for marking students) # collaborate with [[User:Pharos|Pharos]] on getting more news coverage of the New York City and adjacent areas # proofread, or read, Wikinews articles out loud for Audio Wikinews # make English Wikinews accounts on various social media like twitter, facebook, blue sky app (sp?), others [in consultation with someone on-wiki first] ensuring you're posting new news articles there with appropriate tags, moderate comments, and setup multiple moderators if possible and document which contributor is in charge of which social network account for Wikinews and how articles are being posted there Please let me know which of these points you're most comfortable with, and/or would like to learn. '''''Which points would you like to contribute?''''' Please name up to 3-5 points, if you like. Or suggest your own. :-) I'm happy to connect with you and guide you in any of the above areas. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:54, 16 March 2025 (UTC) :I've given careful thought to this. To pivot in a 'new' direction --- number 9, for sure! I view myself (sorry for the Army metaphor) as sort of a ''Staff Sargeant'' around here. I write news. I review articles. I do (Administrator) clean-up stuff [and maybe not as aggressively as I could, at times]. I just like to keep us moving as a '''News site'''.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:25, 18 March 2025 (UTC) ::I praise this! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 15:55, 26 March 2025 (UTC) == I edited this article, now cannot review == [[New Brisbane stadium to replace Gabba as venue for Olympics, cricket, AFL]] could you possibly please have a look and review? Thanks, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:39, 27 March 2025 (UTC) :Also this one: :* [[Mass shooting erupts at unsanctioned car show in Las Cruces, New Mexico, United States]] :Thanks, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:11, 27 March 2025 (UTC) == [[Wildfires wreak havoc across parts of Texas]] == Hi Bddpaux, I've published. It is on edge of newsworthiness. I took the judgment that it's passable. If there are any recent updates, or perhaps photos available, '''''please add them now within 24 hours'''''. Thank you so much. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:45, 27 March 2025 (UTC) == Come back soon? == Hope you do! TTYS!!! {{ping|Bddpaux}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:51, 8 April 2025 (UTC) :All the best, will miss you. :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:36, 9 April 2025 (UTC) == Review Help Needed - Update 1 (April 15, 2025) == Hello! This is Gryllida. I am one of the reviewers at Wikinews. I'm contacting you to request assistance with the review queue. Here is my understanding of the articles which are in the review queue now: {| class="wikitable" ! Event Date !! Link !Did I edit substantially? |- | April 6 Sunday || * [[Deadly attack on gold miners in Papua leaves multiple casualties and sparks security response]] | |- |April 9 Wednesday | * [[Prison confession and police interrogation video of Delphi bridge murderer made public for first time]] | |- |April 9 Wednesday | * [[Helicopter crash in South Africa blamed on 'unsecured' penguin]] | |- |April 10 Thursday | * [[Authorities identify Legionnaires' disease outbreak in Sydney CBD, Australia]] |YES |- |April 10 Thursday | * [[US Health Secretary vows to determine cause of autism by September]] |YES |- |April 12 Saturday | * [[Nuclear negotiations between US and Iran commence in Muscat, Oman]] | |- |April 13 Sunday | * [[Nobel laureate writer from Peru, Vargas Llosa dies]] | |- |April 14 Monday | * [[President Bukele says he will not return wrongly deported U.S. man, confounding U.S. Supreme Court order]] | |- |April 14 Monday | * [[Pop singer Katy Perry safely returns to Earth from outer space]] | |} Suggested action: * Start to review from the top of the list. * As the list may be out of date, please check the '''[[WN:Newsroom]]''' at your earliest convenience. I'm planning to send this reminder twice a week. To unsubscribe, please visit [[User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review]] and inquire at the talk page. '''If you wish, I can narrow it down to only notify you of new stories in your preferred region or topic. Please let me know if you are interested in this option.''' Please let me know if you require assistance or would like to connect with me to do a few reviews together before you proceed to do them fully on your own. Many thanks for your time. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida]] 11:44, 15 April 2025 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:Gryllida@enwikinews using the list at https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review&oldid=4849846 --> == Top article in March! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Original author for the top article published in March, 2025. The article has at least 1,450 views!]] Thank you for starting the article titled "[[Wildfires wreak havoc across parts of Texas]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in March of 2025. {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image--> As the original author, you can also use the following userbox on your user page: {{userbox | id = [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025-mini.png|40px]] | info = ''This user was the original author of the [[Wikinews:2025 Boost publication rate/Monthly top article|top article]] for March, 2025'' | border-s = 1 }} {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image--> Thanks again for all the hard work you're putting in around here! —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:44, 16 April 2025 (UTC) == Review Help Needed - Update 2 (April 21, 2025) - 17 articles awaiting review == Hello! :-) This is Gryllida. I am one of the reviewers at Wikinews. I'm contacting you to request your assistance with the review queue. Here is my understanding of the articles which are in the review queue now: {| class="wikitable" |+ Caption ! Event Date !! Link !Did I edit substantially? |- |April 9 Wednesday | * [[Prison confession and police interrogation video of Delphi bridge murderer made public for first time]] | |- |April 10 Thursday | * [[US Health Secretary vows to determine cause of autism by September]] |YES |- | |[[Suspect taken into custody and charged after Pennsylvania governor Josh Shapiro is forced to evacuate gubernatorial mansion with family following suspected arson attack]] | |- |April 12 Saturday |[[Nuclear negotiations between US and Iran commence in Muscat, Oman]] | |- | |[[Weezer performs at Coachella music festival with bassist Scott Shriner four days after his wife was shot by Los Angeles police, charged with attempted murder]] | |- |April 13 Sunday |[[Sumy, Ukraine hit with two missiles by Russia]] | |- |April 14 Monday | * [[President Bukele says he will not return wrongly deported U.S. man, confounding U.S. Supreme Court order]] | |- |April 14 Monday |[[Pop singer Katy Perry safely returns to Earth from outer space]] | |- | |[[Thousands hospitalised in Iraq due to sandstorm]] | |- | |[[Teen's murder of both parents was part of larger plot to assassinate Donald Trump and overthrow US government, newly-released FBI affidavit says]] [[Teen's murder of both parents was part of larger plot to assassinate Donald Trump and overthrow US government, newly-released FBI affidavit says|(Date TBC)]] | |- |April 15 Tuesday |[[New rape and sexual assault charges trial for Harvey Weinstein in Manhattan]] | |- | |[[Protester tasered and arrested at town hall hosted by US Republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene]] | |- | |[[Several suspects dead in South Africa after shootout results in the rescue of abducted US pastor]] | |- | |[[16 year old Torquay boy arrested after stealing Lexus in Exeter]] | |- | | | |- |April 16 Wednesday |[[Rwandan government releases Integrated Household Living Conditions Survey]] | |- | |[[German prosecutors charge doctor with murder of over a dozen patients via anaesthetic drugs, arson]] [[German prosecutors charge doctor with murder of over a dozen patients via anaesthetic drugs, arson|Date TBC]] | |- |April 17 Thursday |[[Four dead in cable car crash in area south of Naples]] | |- |April 18 Friday |[[Ryan Gosling cast in upcoming Star Wars film]] | |- | |[[Cincinnati Reds win against Baltimore Orioles]] | |- | | | |} Suggested action: * Start to review, perhaps from the top of the list. * Please, aim to review at least one article a fortnight, if able. We currently have less than 50% activity among reviewers, with many '''not having made an edit within last two years'''. If there is something that can help you with coming back, please let me know. I'm happy to chat with you at IRC, wiki, audio, or any preferred platform and do several reviews together. If there is some other motivator, I'm eager to know what it is and get it done as soon as possible. * As the list may be out of date, please check the '''[[WN:Newsroom]]''' at your earliest convenience. I'm planning to send this reminder twice a week. To unsubscribe, please visit [[User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review]] and inquire at the talk page. '''If you wish, I can narrow it down to only notify you of new stories in your preferred region or topic. Please let me know if you are interested in this option.''' Please let me know if you require assistance or would like to connect with me to do a few reviews together before you proceed to do them fully on your own. Many thanks for your time. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:23, 20 April 2025 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:Gryllida@enwikinews using the list at https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review&oldid=4849962 --> == Review Help Requested - Update 3 (April 26, 2025) - 2 articles awaiting review == Hello :-) This is Gryllida. I am one of the reviewers at Wikinews. I'm contacting you to request your assistance with the review queue. Here is my understanding of the articles which are in the review queue now: * [[Tesla reports 71% profit loss in 25Q1 vs 24Q1, Elon Musk to reduce government work commitment]] TUESDAY April 22 (Gryllida did a major edit, and cannot review) - '''4 days ago''' * [[Lion mauls, kills teenage girl in Kenya]] SATURDAY April 19 - '''7 days ago''' LAST DAY TO REVIEW IS TODAY Please review urgently. As the list may be out of date, please check the '''[[WN:Newsroom]]''' at your earliest convenience. You're welcome to join [[WN:IRC|the live chat]] for real time collaboration. (I'm planning to send this reminder approximately twice a week. To unsubscribe, please visit [[User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review]] and inquire at the talk page. '''If you wish, I can narrow it down to only notify you of new stories in your preferred region or topic. Please let me know if you are interested in this option.''') Please let me know if you require assistance or would like to connect with me to do a few reviews together before you proceed to do them fully on your own. Many thanks for your time. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:29, 25 April 2025 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:Gryllida@enwikinews using the list at https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review&oldid=4849962 --> == Welcome back == Wo happy to see you again. What you may have missed: I created {{tl|pingrr}}, maybe to be automatically included into "not ready" template if needed. There is a new reviewer application. Who else of users would you suggest to nominate for reviewer? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 14:45, 7 May 2025 (UTC) == Welcome back? == You sticking around hopefully? Either way good to see you! @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 14:38, 19 May 2025 (UTC) :Thanks -- here intermittently.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:39, 19 May 2025 (UTC) == [[Texas police arrest mother and her son on terrorism charges]] == Could you please finish the review? The news is getting older and older day by day. Event date = May 15 Today date = May 20 It happened: '''5 days ago''' Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:42, 20 May 2025 (UTC) == Rock musician story: sighted but not published?? == Hi [[Rock musician, Tommy Lee and wife split after 6 years of marriage]] 02:23, 21 May 2025 Bddpaux talk contribs 1,597 bytes +10 →Sources undo thank [checked by Bddpaux] Yet not published. Why??? Maybe you meant to publish it but the script didn't work. This is confusing, please have a look. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:55, 21 May 2025 (UTC) :Yeah that's odd. I don't think it was published? @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 13:59, 21 May 2025 (UTC) ::Yes -- got in a bit of a hurry. Can you review it?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:41, 21 May 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] please finish it if you can? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:09, 21 May 2025 (UTC) ::::It's finished. That's why I submitted it for review.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:12, 22 May 2025 (UTC) == Did you get [[Talk:Rock musician, Tommy Lee and wife split after 6 years of marriage|this]] and did you get my email please == Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:09, 22 May 2025 (UTC) :I hope he comes back soon. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:10, 22 May 2025 (UTC) == Review Help Requested - Update 4 (May 24, 2025) - 18 articles awaiting review == Hello, legendary Wikinews Reviewer :-) Please review any of the below now. This is a sortable table. Please check [[Wikinews:Newsroom]] for the latest revision. {| class="wikitable sortable" |+ ! ! ! ! |- |[[Rock musician, Tommy Lee and wife split after 6 years of marriage]] |16?? | | |- |[[Orleans Parish facility maintenance worker charged with allegedly helping inmates escape prison]] |20 | | |- |[[Wikipedia administrators are being arrested in Belarus]] |17 |original reporting! | |- |[[Australian Nationals leave Coalition with Liberal Party]] |20 | | |- |[[Ukrainian ex-top official shot dead outside Madrid school]] |21 | | |- |[[Trump claims there is a 'genocide' in South Africa, but white Afrikaner farmers dispute that assertion]] |21 | | |- |[[Suicide bomber attacks Mogadishu military base]] |18 |7 days ago! | |- |[[Explosion near reproductive health facility in Palm Springs, California]] |17 |8 days ago! | |- |[[Interpol facilitates arrest of Peruvian organised crime suspect in Medellin, Colombia]] |15 |10 days ago! | |- |[[Shooting at CIA headquarters in Virginia]] |22 | | |- |[[End confirmed for the American penny]] |22 | | |- |[[Inaugural Khelo India Beach Games concludes early]] |23 | | |- |[[GeoGuessr cancels participation in Esports World Cup in response to controversy over Saudi Arabia hosting the event]] |22nd May |short article easy? | |- |[[Sound Talent Group employees among casualties in private plane crash at San Diego, California]] |22 | | |- |[[Nepal Supreme Court upholds custody of Rabi Lamichhane in cooperative fraud case]] |23 | | |- |[[Police activity on Interstate 80 in Berkeley near University Avenue]] |23 | | |- |[[High-Speed RV Chase Ends in Fatal Crash – Albuquerque]] |18 | | |- |[[Donald Trump wants Golden Dome missile defense system]] |20 | | |} You're welcome to join [[WN:IRC|the live chat]] for real time collaboration. To unsubscribe, see [[User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review]] or reply to this message and ping Gryllida. Regards, --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:23, 24 May 2025 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:Gryllida@enwikinews using the list at https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review&oldid=4849962 --> == Hack your account? == Did someone hack your account because you speedied a perfectly fine article and you left no reason why. @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:07, 19 June 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] No, that was me. It was because it was 5 days ago, and only had one sentence. However, if I would've seen it was you, I probably would've held off. Moved a bit quickly. My bad.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:16, 19 June 2025 (UTC) ::It's all good @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:05, 19 June 2025 (UTC) == Wikinews closure formally recommended == The Task Force has released a report that formally recommends closing Wikinews. The public consultation is here: [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:58, 26 June 2025 (UTC) : A community response to the Task Force is underway and I believe it's critical that we show clear support from contributors, reviewers, and administrators if we want Wikinews to remain open. : If you believe Wikinews still has potential for revitalization and should remain active, I ask that you: : :* Review and help improve the draft community response, and/or :* Add your endorsement once you're comfortable with the language : : The goal is to finalize the draft before the [[m:Event:Community_consultation_on_Wikispore/Wikinews,_call_1|July 16 Task Force call]], so our response is ready for consideration. : You can find the draft here:<br>👉 [[Wikinews:Response to Proposal for Closing Wikinews]] : Thanks for considering.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:33, 11 July 2025 (UTC) == hey there == good to have you officially back. It's good that you're up and running fully again. I'm glad!@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]have a good day! yay![[User:Rheabrux|Rheabrux]] ([[User talk:Rheabrux|talk]]) 20:58, 7 July 2025 (UTC) <br>Thanks so much!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:00, 12 August 2025 (UTC) == Good to see you around == how are you? @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:00, 29 July 2025 (UTC) <br>Doing fairly well! Still quite busy with work etc., though!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:00, 12 August 2025 (UTC) == Hey there!!! == Hi fellow stranger. @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:26, 22 September 2025 (UTC) :Howdy!!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:36, 14 October 2025 (UTC) == Gadget-archive == Hi, it's nice to see you being active! I noticed that you have installed the Gadget-archive, but there’s actually a small issue on my side at [[Wikinews:Gadgets and Tools]]. I’ll fix that soon. For now, to install it correctly, please [{{fullurl:Special:MyPage/common.js|action=edit}} open your common.js page] and paste the following code there. That’s all! <pre> mw.loader.load('//en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Michael.C.Wright/js/Gadget-archive.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript'); </pre> -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 20:41, 15 October 2025 (UTC) *OK -- I'll look into it. I'm not a gadget ninja by any measure!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:14, 16 October 2025 (UTC) ==New article== Hi - since you seemed to take an interest in my original reporting, I created a new article based on an event yesterday. I think it's mostly done but I'm still waiting on some details to submit it for review; I realize there should be a way to start the process as "mostly ready". Anyway, if you want to have a look, [[Warrington Hudlin honored at 2025 Queens World Film Festival]]. Thanks either way. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:24, 16 October 2025 (UTC) *Yeah -- that can be a little funny here. If I (for example) go in and do major tweaks to an article that is ''almost there'', I can then become so involved in the article, that I should not then be the Reviewer. I can do a bit -- but not too much.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:15, 16 October 2025 (UTC) == where did you go? == @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:04, 19 October 2025 (UTC) :I'm alive!😁--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:06, 20 October 2025 (UTC) == Wikinews:Vd == Hello. There's a long-term abuse on the page [[Special:History/Wikinews:Vd|Wikinews:Vd]]. Basically it's a redirect page — no need to edit it frequently, especially for new users. May I ask you (as an administrator) to protect it for an indefinite term? [[Special:Contributions/2A00:1370:8186:BB3:A30C:5EA3:D6AA:40E6|2A00:1370:8186:BB3:A30C:5EA3:D6AA:40E6]] ([[User talk:2A00:1370:8186:BB3:A30C:5EA3:D6AA:40E6|talk]]) 21:43, 20 October 2025 (UTC) :Well -- I'm not so sure I see it as 'abuse'. All I see is a re-direct. What is your actual problem with this? And: Who are you?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:32, 21 October 2025 (UTC) ::Don't listen to them @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:00, 21 October 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]]This isn't perfectly in keeping with policy, but I tend to de-value requests like this from people who aren't signed in under an ID.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:58, 22 October 2025 (UTC) == Why the deletion of original reporting? == Why was [[Dancer Yoshiko Chuma performs at the Children’s Magical Garden in New York City]] deleted with no explanation? It was waiting for nearly two months for a review, and it was being worked on during that time. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:31, 1 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] and I were both collaborating on it. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:31, 1 November 2025 (UTC) ::If memory serves, it had been marked as abandoned. When did the focal event occur?—-[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 01:59, 2 November 2025 (UTC) :::It was some time ago, but we were both actively working on it. Someone has going through and been marking articles as incorrectly abandoned when they are awaiting reviewer response - in fact you seemed to do this to [[Warrington Hudlin honored at 2025 Queens World Film Festival]]. Regardless, as it is original reporting, I was told the freshness does not apply in the same way - and we gatwicked some additional interview material into it, as well as having it translated to zh.wikinews. Regardless, I was told it was policy to draftify original reporting rather than outright delete it. I think @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] or @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] told me this. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 02:38, 2 November 2025 (UTC) ::::Maybe I'm not sure I understand the word 'draftify' -- and I saw very little evidence that any gatwicking freshened it up. Do you know how to set up a sand box? You might do that with your OR stuff -- and then you can loop back at a later time any maybe loop that stuff into a brand new article. I checked the history and saw there was very little recent work that improved things. I would like to view that policy, if you can find it. And, while I'm at it: Let me clarify something. The concept of 'abandoned' might be a hair confusing. Freshness is critical around this place. There may be some 'changes' to an article, but those don't automatically freshen it up. I might've marked a couple of things as 'abandoned' when I should've just outright failed them for publication.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 11:53, 2 November 2025 (UTC) :::::There is very little in the policies I have come across that really describes or endorses what is going on and what you are saying, and the discussion I started about Freshness at the policy talk page shows that really very few contributors agree with what is happening. If that was consensus, I think consensus has changed. Either way, it's an embarrassment that people will see a story published on zh wikinews about a performance in New York City and never see the story written in English. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:40, 2 November 2025 (UTC) ::I truly and deeply do not understand how I could possibly be more clear about his. In terms of freshness, an interview is NOT an automatic, super magical, get-out-of-jail-free card. I think I have been notably clear about that. Once again, let me say: The focal event is very important. On your article, the EVENT was ''the focal event.''' That event happened almost 3 weeks ago. I have been clear about that. Because you interviewed some people DOES NOT destroy the calendar in terms of freshness. It does not. And: ANY article that passes review will be published here. I focus very little on zhn.WN's standards (good, bad or otherwise). We have our standards. They (apparently) have there standards.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 00:02, 4 November 2025 (UTC) ::::::or were you asking about [[WN:ORIGINALREPORTING]], "''Original material can also enhance freshness. Exclusive content has the potential to extend our freshness horizon by days or even weeks, depending on the nature of the original material. ''". [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:53, 2 November 2025 (UTC) :::(please see above).--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 00:28, 4 November 2025 (UTC) == Please stop labeling. == We also suggest you reduce your use of unusual metaphors and capitalization. Thank you for your cooperation. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 23:45, 3 November 2025 (UTC) :I deny and shall formally disregard your suggestion. Unfortunately: I must utilize certain conventions to try to help make my point. I wish I didn't.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 00:03, 4 November 2025 (UTC) ::''Comment on content, not on the contributor.'' ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 01:23, 4 November 2025 (UTC) == Leaving Wikinews == Do y'all just want me to leave? @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:02, 4 November 2025 (UTC) :I'm sorry. You are indeed the only one who has done the most practical work. I think we all feel ashamed. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 01:04, 4 November 2025 (UTC) ::I'am going to stay around but I can't take the constant bickering all the time. @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:10, 4 November 2025 (UTC) :::Yes, me too. These pointless arguments are unbearable. I hope everyone can speak frankly and clearly, focusing on the content rather than the person. Probably the argument is already over. Don't be discouraged. @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]]~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 01:20, 4 November 2025 (UTC) ::::Sorry for flooding your talk page by the way @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:58, 4 November 2025 (UTC) :::::You have done nothing improper. You are personally invited by me to come any time you wish to say darn near anything you wish to say. I welcome your remarks and your engagement in this project.—-[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 02:36, 4 November 2025 (UTC) ==[[India wins 2025 Women's Cricket World Cup, defeating South Africa by 52 runs]]== Thank you for getting this article reviewed and published in a timely manner. I would not have wanted to pre-review it myself because I don't understand the sport of cricket and can't make sense of a match report, but I could tell that this appeared to be one of the better articles that has been submitted for review recently. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 17:02, 4 November 2025 (UTC) :Thanks -- it's a good one! Are you working on an article? If so, let me know if I can help.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:48, 4 November 2025 (UTC) == And, we certainly missed this...for very long == {|style="border: 8px solid gray; background-color: #fdff7;" |rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[Image:Pencil tip closeup 2.JPG|160px]] |rowspan="2" | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 2; vertical-align: middle; height: .4em;" | '''The Order of the Modest Pencil''' <br> {{{1|{{{for|For getting your first article published!}}}}}} |- |style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | {{{2|{{{message|Good Job!}}}}}} |} ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 23:34, 5 November 2025 (UTC) == Marking articles as abandoned == You probably already knew this. By using <nowiki>{{subst:aband}}</nowiki> instead of <nowiki>{{abandoned}}</nowiki>, the template will incorporate a date for deletion using today's date. Very glad to see your name in the edit histories again![[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:13, 10 November 2025 (UTC) :Yeah, I like using subst mostly. It functions as a trigger and gives a pinch of wiggle room for all parties concerned.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:16, 10 November 2025 (UTC) == I always abandon my writing == I'm frustrated at myself any pointers? @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:09, 11 November 2025 (UTC) *I am not sure I have a perfect response, but consider this: downshift for a while. Minor edits to articles in development. Put in a comma here —- format a paragraph over there — tiny tweaks, small cleanups. Wikify a word they missed…those types of things. And: maybe offer a few words of encouragement for newbies. I also see your small cleanup efforts around here too! And: thanks for your MANY THANKS!! Keep at it!!—[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 02:11, 11 November 2025 (UTC) *:I recently heard from @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], that Wikinews is possibly closing in December, ouch i hope not @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:02, 11 November 2025 (UTC) ::I guess we'll have to see. We have (for years) been at war with a small cohort of WMF folks over this project. Most, if not all, truly understand our framework and appear to care very little about it.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:00, 11 November 2025 (UTC) I'm going to edit this page. I need to change the title. I'll let you know after I edit it.[Family reunification regulations and restrictions in Germany] I added a new paragraph and source. [Military reform in Germany] I created a plane crash news story. [Turkish military transport plane crashes near Georgia border, 20 dead] I want to progress here. But I'm still a beginner. I appreciate your tolerance. I clearly appreciate your support. Thank you. [[User:New mayo|New mayo]] ([[User talk:New mayo|talk]]) 19:05, 14 November 2025 (UTC) == To inform == Ignore the message above. Read this. *I'm going to edit this page. I need to change the title. I'll let you know after I edit it.[[Family reunification regulations and restrictions in Germany]] *I added a new paragraph and source. [[Military reform in Germany]] *I created a plane crash news story. [[Turkish military transport plane crashes near Georgia border, 20 dead]] I want to progress here. But I'm still a beginner. I appreciate your tolerance. I clearly appreciate your support. Thank you. [[User:New mayo|New mayo]] ([[User talk:New mayo|talk]]) 19:09, 14 November 2025 (UTC) == Hi welcome to Newsroom Refreshed == Hi @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] please see [[User:Asked42/Taglet]] 1. add it to your common.js it has instructions 2. visit a special page which is linked there, to see list of articles with more meaningful status notes than "" (nothing) ... Let me know what you think Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 09:58, 17 November 2025 (UTC) == A new version of EzPR == Hi, a new version of the Easy Peer Review script has been prepared. Built on the legacy of the current version, it includes more features and has a more modern look and design. If you are interested, you can try it out and let me know what you think [[User talk:Asked42/EPR (new version)|on this talk page]]. If you have any suggestions, please feel free to share them as well. This is currently an initial testing version. After installing the script, you can test it on any of your user sandbox pages (make sure the page contains the {{tl|review}} template). You may need to set up your sandbox to look like a draft article. If you don't want to do that extra work, you can instead try it on [[User:Asked42/sandbox2|my sandbox page]] to see how the script behaves in different situations, such as pass review, fail review, exception review, etc. I haven't prepared any documentation pages yet since it's still too early and more modifications may be needed. So you'll have to follow your intuition while testing it (I will try to prepare some basic documentation soon). Hopefully this won't be too difficult, as I have tried to keep the design simple. Still if you need help or don't understand something feel free to ask me. To install it, copy the code and add it to [{{fullurl:Special:MyPage/common.js|action=edit}} your common.js page]. You will then see a "Review (EPR v2)" option in your p-tb (or your tools menu) on any user-namespace page that contains the review template. After clicking the option a form should appear on the article. <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" copy> {{subst:lusc|1=User:Asked42/EPRv2.js}} </syntaxhighlight> --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:38, 19 November 2025 (UTC) :You can find some information about some of the features at [[User:Asked42/EPR (new version)]]. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:41, 19 November 2025 (UTC) :Hi, I am not sure if this will be helpful, but to make some updates: you can use the new EzPR by clicking the "Start a Review" button, which appears at the top of an article that has been submitted for review. For a quick-start guide, [[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)#Quick Start|you can see this]]. Thank you. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:03, 6 March 2026 (UTC) == Review == Can you please review my article "[[Many websites hit by major outage at online security group Cloudflare]]"? It appears that you are a Reviewer here. [[User:Trash Taco|Trash Taco]] ([[User talk:Trash Taco|talk]]) 15:26, 20 November 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Trash Taco|Trash Taco]], it Needs a rewrite for clarity to reduce bias. What is "many" and "major", for example? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:32, 21 November 2025 (UTC) == invited to edit == Based on Taglet report (see [[User:Asked42/Taglet]] to install it) the following 3 stories would benefit from editing * [[Midtown Manhattan Nightclub Shooting: One Killed, Shooter at Large]] expand submit for review, event nov-23 * [[3.2 earthquake hits near San Ramon, California]] submit it for review now mate Nov-20 * [[Dina Titus presses Nevada governor over dropped probe, fine against Musk’s Boring Co.]] minor editing for structure. check copyright of 3 large quotes. get info or comment from FD -- Nov-20 * [[UN Security Council approves Trump peace plan for Gaza]] major news, too short. see [[WN:IP]]. only work on it if it can be refreshed. Nov-18 There are 5-10 others that can be refreshed with some effort, also, in the report. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:41, 23 November 2025 (UTC) == Help request for world passports story == Hi Bddpaux 1. Interview contents was verified, please check scoop. 2. The interviewee requested a minor change, which I do not know whether it is acceptable to add footnote to an external page. 3. Could you please push through to publish this if you consider it has been sufficiently revised for neutrality. The talk page is too long for me to read and there are many concerns on it which I do not have the capacity to address. REgards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:05, 24 November 2025 (UTC) :Sorry. I'm a bit swamped right now.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:16, 24 November 2025 (UTC) ::Ok [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:50, 24 November 2025 (UTC) == It isn't over till its over.... == Have faith this will not close down for good... @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:37, 26 November 2025 (UTC) == A BARNSTAR! == [[File:Exceptional_newcomer.jpg|161px|left|thumb|]] Guess what? I’m going to give you the Newcomer Award to make up for it. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 10:38, 27 November 2025 (UTC){{clear}} == Top article in November! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in {{#time:F|{{#time:Y-m-d|-1 month}}}}, 2025. The article has at least 2,218 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[India wins 2025 Women's Cricket World Cup, defeating South Africa by 52 runs]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in {{#time:F|{{#time:Y-m-d|-1 month}}}} of 2025. Thank you for contributing to articles as well as reviewing others! We had three publishing reviewers this month and I believe that was the key to our increase in published articles for the month. 👍 {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image--> [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:56, 15 December 2025 (UTC) == You might come back? == hello we miss you @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:57, 15 December 2025 (UTC) == AI made into own wording? == I know recently a census was cast to ban AI usage, but if I use AI prompt can I put into my own words? Thanks, I've talked to Michael also about this topic. @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:03, 29 January 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Wildfires burn across parts of US states of Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas]] (February 20) == {{Notify_review/notready|article=Wildfires burn across parts of US states of Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas|author=Bddpaux|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 02:06, 21 February 2026 (UTC) == 'Wikinews streak' comp proposal == Hi I am proposing to setup [[:w:streak]] competition goals over a 12 week period: for example, * "write one story each two weeks, and [[:wikt:babysit|babysit]] it until it is published" - for as many consecutive fortnights as possible A role would have to be selected at start of the activity: this could be either ''authoring'' a completely new article or this could be taking over someone else's article and doing focused ''editing'' on it with active collaboration with others until it is published. It is like a [[:wikt:day shift|day shift]] as you are expected to remain available '[[:wikt:on call|on call]]' for 2-3 days after an event that is being subject of a report, to address concerns from another user or reviewer. The aim of this is to build a habit of participation with [[:wikt:outburst|outburst]]s of eyeballing the page to collaborate with others -- but not every day, to have breaks and reduce [[:wikt:burnout|burnout]]. Could you please check out at '''[[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Streak_themed_competition_proposal|this section]]''' and let me know what you think? Parameters are subject to discussion e.g. * 'once every two weeks' or 'once a week' or 'once a month' * should this be same for all or each person decides for themselves * how long total comp running for, 12 weeks or 24 weeks or some other time * some other ideas how to modify this [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:11, 22 February 2026 (UTC) == Revision un-approved == In article [[Texas Firefighters Address Wildfires Across Parts of the State]] several revisions appeared as, I think accidentally, marked as reviewed. I un-approved them as the article was not yet published. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:59, 28 February 2026 (UTC) == Please check 2 post publish edits (need to fit 24h window...) == Hi Bddpaux Please check out this page, I added some content, if you could check it before 24h window post publish closes, I would appreciate it: https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Monta_publishes_its_2025_EV_charger_ranking,_including_hardware_performance?dpl_id=3082835 Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:02, 9 March 2026 (UTC) == The Susie Wiles story was not stale == At the time you posted [[Talk:Trump chief of staff Susie Wiles diagnosed with early stage breast cancer|that comment on the talk page saying it was stale]], the focal point was only four days old. Per [[WN:Freshness]] a story does not go stale until 5-7 days. Is there something I'm missing? Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:07, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :We are both waiting for responses for why you seem to be marking stories stale that aren't, and other issues.. Thanks. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 19:44, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ::::I needed a good April Fool's joke. This is rich. I made a mistake. How's that for a response? "And other issues......" Hahahahahahaha -- you're awesome. Farewell, English WN -- we did some good stuff around here. You're both waiting for a response. Hahahahahaha! Close the door on your way out.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 01:50, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :::::Okay whatever. RIP Wikinews. What could have been... [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:54, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :::::Again, I'll reiterate here. It was not one mistake, it was several "mistakes" followed by lack of explanation when asked about it. Again, I also suggest your tone towards myself, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], and @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] is unprofessional. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 02:10, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::::::FYI, @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] appears to have [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals&curid=30615&diff=5003963&oldid=5003772 left the building]. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:12, 2 April 2026 (UTC) == I see you == on my new news wiki thanks stick around! @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:47, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :you ok? @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:36, 5 April 2026 (UTC) 1h3gdkeoerds61g2u47gwdjpyob5gf7 3 311262 5005245 5002445 2026-04-06T01:33:23Z Gryllida 160590 Notifying about the review of [[Supreme_Court_of_Finland_makes_crimes_against_humanity_convictions_in_landmark_ruling]] 5005245 wikitext text/x-wiki {{notice|To reviewers: Many of the "revision requested" notices I receive pertain to articles to which I made only minor revisions and for which I was not the primary author. Hence, I will delete them from this page once the article has been published or deleted.}} {{Template:Welcome-body|realName=|name=Metropolitan90}} -- 04:13, 26 November 2011 (UTC) == How are you? == Hi there. @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:45, 1 October 2025 (UTC) *Fine, thanks. And you? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 12:59, 4 October 2025 (UTC) *:Good, glad to hear, Do you think you will start news articles here anytime soon? Thanks @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:40, 4 October 2025 (UTC) *::I already have one pending and waiting for review. I'm not going to start any additional ones until the first one has been reviewed. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:12, 5 October 2025 (UTC) *:::Oh I was away for a week, were there any recent developments about this? Has anyone accepted the proposal? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 01:54, 10 October 2025 (UTC) ==Review Reformation== Thank you for your comment at [[Talk:Warrington Hudlin honored at 2025 Queens World Film Festival]]. I have been posting in various places because in the time I've been here, every single non-original reporting article I've written has become stale - in one case, because it was not reviewed in a timely manner, I was asked to update it, and then THAT was not reviewed in a timely manner, so again it was marked stale. I've seen this happen to other peoples' articles as well. I don't think this is a good look, and I also think it's a waste of peoples' effort and serves no purpose. Anyway, if you'd like to see my attempts at reform of this process that is not working at all, I've made a few scattered comments at [[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals]] and a thread at [[Wikinews talk:Newsworthiness]] if you'd be interested in participating. Thanks! [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:00, 31 October 2025 (UTC) *I have commented in the thread at [[Wikinews talk:Newsworthiness]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC) == Reviews 'Sandhani' article == Please see my comments on the Talk page of that article. You are new here, and we are glad you've taken an interest in this project. 'Freshness' is important here. We focus on discreet news events -- sometimes things go stale and I hate that. But, we are an imperfect project -- always trying to get better. I say (a bit whimsically, so take it as such), "Don't fall in love with your articles." I have felt the sting of working hard on an article, and then it goes stale before it is published. I can respect the annoyance. Get the news, write the news, submit the news -- and, move on.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:57, 31 October 2025 (UTC) *To be clear, I certainly didn't "fall in love" with [[ShSMC Sandhani unit opens registration for 2023-24]], an article which I didn't create and which has some significant editing issues. But I think that the people who take the time to write articles ought to receive timely reviews of those articles. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 02:06, 1 November 2025 (UTC) *:I'd counter "don't fall in love with your articles" with "don't fall in love with your policies" that don't seem to be working to make a news site (or anything useful). I was asked here to investigate and maybe help reform things, but I am not sure where to turn. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 04:28, 1 November 2025 (UTC) == Hudlin article == Please see my remarks at that Talk page.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:14, 3 November 2025 (UTC) == Top article for October == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in {{#time:F|{{#time:Y-m-d|-1 month}}}}, 2025. The article has at least 3,032 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[Israeli naval ships intercept Gaza-bound Global Sumud Flotilla]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in {{#time:F|{{#time:Y-m-d|-1 month}}}} of 2025. As a relatively new contributor, this is great! Thanks for all your help! {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image-->[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:25, 15 November 2025 (UTC) == Shooting article == Sorry -- brain glitch -- what is the AI-generated bit?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:56, 18 November 2025 (UTC) *The last section of the talk page at [[Talk:Shooting at Benihana restaurant in Maple Grove, Minnesota leaves one injured]] has the heading "Eye witness notes ai" which I interpreted to mean that AI was used to generate the information there. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:57, 19 November 2025 (UTC) *:AI notes I didn't use all AI I think... @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 12:31, 19 November 2025 (UTC) *::In any event, though, the actual source should be cited in the article's Sources section unless the article is based on original reporting. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 14:55, 19 November 2025 (UTC) *:::As @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] said [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crowds_gather_for_35th_Tompkins_Square_Halloween_Dog_Parade_amid_car_incident&diff=prev&oldid=4889835] here, "''We need to be extremely cautious when incorporating information from AI or large language models.''", when the last set of AI notes like this had some blatantly false information. What is the purpose of that section anyway? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:12, 19 November 2025 (UTC) == Hello == Hi, could you please install [[User:Asked42/Taglet]] now to help triage new pages by marking them with event dates? this would greatly speed up page review, thanks! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:38, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :Hi, once it installed, at [[Special:TagletReport]], scroll down and tag untagged pages with event dates, could you please do this every day for 2-3 minutes, thanks! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:06, 10 December 2025 (UTC) == Your article submission for review (December 14) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Football: Nottingham Forest beat FC Utrecht 2-1|author=Metropolitan90|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:58, 14 December 2025 (UTC) == Your article submission for review (December 14) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Battery explosion triggers fatal office fire in Jakarta’s Kemayoran district|author=Metropolitan90|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 00:40, 15 December 2025 (UTC) == Top article in November! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in {{#time:F|{{#time:Y-m-d|-1 month}}}}, 2025. The article has at least 2,218 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[India wins 2025 Women's Cricket World Cup, defeating South Africa by 52 runs]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in {{#time:F|{{#time:Y-m-d|-1 month}}}} of 2025. Thank you for contributing to articles and helping to make sure they are publishable! {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image-->[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:50, 15 December 2025 (UTC) == Your article submission for review (December 16) == Stale story. Sorry. Event: Dec09. Submitted for review: Dec13. :'-( Please submit article for review earlier. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 10:28, 16 December 2025 (UTC) *{{ping|Gryllida}} What article are you referring to? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 14:45, 16 December 2025 (UTC) *:Sorry, *:https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Minneapolis%E2%80%93Saint_Paul_International_Airport_man_dies_after_being_struck_by_snowplow *:Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:57, 17 December 2025 (UTC) **That one wasn't mine. Yes, I made edits to that article, but I make edits to a high percentage of articles nowadays. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 05:15, 17 December 2025 (UTC) **:Yeah this note was sent to all users who edited the story. Sorry, that this was not clear, I will make it clearer in future messages. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:47, 17 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Domestic call in Rochester, New York leads to three police officers being shot]] (December 26) == Hello, This message is being sent to you as you contributed to the article at some point. The article was published. Congratulations. For your reference, as a part of my review, the article required several minor edits. Some of these changes may be related to your edits, while others may be related to edits made by other users. The list of minor edits is provided below. 1) Specified date in first paragraph more clearly, as it is a Friday today, my local time anyway, but event was last week. 2) Cleaned up a messy paragraph at the end of the page The following review comments were added: 1) The article presents a nearly stale event on Dec19 which was written up on Dec21 and submitted for review on Dec24. <mark>Please do not delay submitting for review. Please submit for review as early as possible. THIS IS IMPORTANT.</mark> 2) The article contains the following paragraph: ''Officers responded to a 911 call around 10:15 p.m. after a man reported that his girlfriend's ex-boyfriend was attempting to break into her home and might have a gun ��. When officers arrived and located Davis at the side of the house, he immediately pulled out a handgun and opened fire at close range, striking two officers and the 911 caller ��. One officer was shot multiple times in the upper body but was protected by his ballistic vest and sustained non-life-threatening injuries, while the second officer was shot in the upper body and required surgery, leaving him in critical but stable condition ��.Davis fled the scene and was found minutes later at the intersection of Arnett Boulevard and Thurston Road �. When ordered to stop by a third officer, Davis opened fire again, shooting the officer once in the upper body ��. That officer and others returned fire, striking Davis multiple times and killing him at the scene ��.Casualties and ConditionsAll three wounded officers were treated at Strong Memorial Hospital and received life-saving treatment �. The 911 caller, who had exchanged gunfire with Davis and was shot multiple times, was also hospitalized in serious but non-life-threatening condition ��. Police Chief David Smith noted that each of the injured officers had fewer than 10 years on the force �.Background on the SuspectDavis had an active arrest warrant for aggravated harassment from an October incident and had previously threatened the victim in July, telling her he would "put a bullet in her head," which led to her obtaining an order of protection �. He was convicted of third-degree burglary in 2005 and was illegally possessing a .40-caliber Glock handgun at the time of the shooting, which he fired until it was empty �. Rochester Mayor Malik Evans called the incident "people's Exhibit A on what domestic violence can do," noting that the police department receives more than 6,000 domestic violence calls annually ��.'' This is garbage because: a) It is too long b) it has " ��" in between sentences c) It has incomplete sentences like "Background on the SuspectDavis had an active arrest warrant ..." <mark>Please do not submit crappy paragraphs for review. This delays publishing. The only thing a reviewer can do is delete the whole paragraph, or clean it up; which is time consuming and disrespectful because you could have done the same too before submitting article for review and because it is not publishable in current form. PLEASE ONLY SUBMIT COMPLETED ARTICLES. THIS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.</mark> Thank you. Have a great day. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:25, 25 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Kennedy Center gets renamed to Trump-Kennedy Center]] (December 26) == The article has been published. Congratulations. The following edits were made by reviewer: 1) Article body written in past tense 2) External links moved to a section called 'External links' 3) Rearranged to specify the date in the first paragraph, see [[WN:IP|inverted pyramid]] Please keep these comments in mind when writing or editing articles in the future. The following notes were left by reviewer: 1) The previous review raised concern about bias in words such as 'many' in 'many commenters' or 'illegal in many ways', it was disappointing that this was not addressed at time of submitting for review. 2) Article was written on time and submitted on Dec22, which is not excellent for a Dec19 event, but is good. It is on the edge of being stale now, as is is already Dec25, and I am making the decision to pass. 3) Please write article about what happened, whether the rename was approved by authorities. Has there been any recent updates? Please consider revising more thoroughly before re-submitting for review; writing up a story and submitting for review sooner and closer to the event date; and also consider writing a article about updates, if any updates were available, immediately after these updates occurred. Many thanks. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:47, 25 December 2025 (UTC) :Also, the image licensing is unclear. It should be revised in Wikimedia Commons, as it is not 'Own work' unless you took the photo. It is likely that the image will need to be re-uploaded locally at Wikinews, via [[Special:Upload]], as Wikimedia Commons does not allow uploads of 'fair use' images. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:52, 25 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Opposition leader Tarique Rahman returns to Bangladesh after 17 years]] (December 29) == Published. Congratulations. Reviewer left following comment: 1) MINOR EDIT REQUESTED: Article is, while written as objectively as possible, dominated by points of view of the opposition. I strongly recommend adding point of view of the current ruling party about this event. Please do so within next 12 hours or less, and mention my nick in the edit summary so that I can sight the edit. Thanks. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:42, 28 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Keyboardist-guitarist of English rock band The Cure dies aged 65]] (January 3) == Event over 7 days old. Passing as exception in context of following factors * nobody was around on holidays anyway (I am being lenient) * the article is well written * it is obituary about a person's whole life so it is still slightly newsy for a while Please do not consider this as precedent for future articles. Thanks -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:42, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Residents shelter in place for hours after gas leak outside of Los Angeles]] (January 3) == Published. Congratulations, and thank you for starting, or revising, the article. Notes from reviewer: 1) This is on the edge of being old and no longer 'news', but still acceptable. 2) If AI/LLM was used, please leave a note on the article talk page immediately. This is required. Thank you. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:06, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Kyiv street to be named for former Ukrainian parliament chairman Andriy Parubiy, killed in Lviv]] (January 6) == Published with comment 1) Delightful news, thank you for writing about it. I just added street name and 'and on Facebook' in the first paragraph; if this is incorrect, please let me know now. Thank you. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:27, 5 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Grateful Dead bassist Bob Weir dies, aged 78]] (January 16) == i spelled out group name assuming meant to be 'the Grateful Dead' where says 'the Dead': please correct this now if this is not correct. thanks. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 17:58, 15 January 2026 (UTC) *Those changes were accurate. That said, at least in more casual writing it would have been fine to leave it as "the Dead", though. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 02:34, 16 January 2026 (UTC) *:See {{w|Deadhead}}... :) [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 03:51, 16 January 2026 (UTC) == Top article in December == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in {{#time:F|{{#time:Y-m-d|-1 month}}}}, 2025. The article has at least 3,042 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[Raccoon found passed out in liquor store after drunken rampage]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in {{#time:F|{{#time:Y-m-d|-1 month}}}} of 2025. {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image-->[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:57, 17 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father]] (January 20) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father|author=Metropolitan90|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:09, 20 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Bruce Gallanter interviews Elliott Sharp, Joe Fonda at Downtown Music Gallery event]] (January 22) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Bruce Gallanter interviews Elliott Sharp, Joe Fonda at Downtown Music Gallery event|author=Metropolitan90|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:31, 22 January 2026 (UTC) == Become a reviewer == Are you interested in becoming a reviewer here? You routinely contribute not only to article content but also in talk space to help others improve articles, which is a big part of the reviewer role. You also clearly understand we desperately need more reviewers. I am willing to nominate and support your request for privileges and help you get up and running as a reviewer if the community accepts.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:04, 5 February 2026 (UTC) :Thanks, I would consider it in the future but I am not ready to take on the position right now. At this point I haven't even managed to start one article that wound up being published. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 17:25, 5 February 2026 (UTC) ::We need reviewers desperately though, @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:27, 5 February 2026 (UTC) :: Understood. If you are interested, then I recommend working deliberately in that direction by continuing to support the community as you have been and also working to get a few of your own articles published. :: You could also help the community by doing [[template:Pre-review|pre-reviews]] if you wanted. I did several and then used them as part of my reviewer request, to demonstrate abilities.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:30, 5 February 2026 (UTC) == Published: [["Media and Tenkil" exhibit opens in Hanau, Germany]] (February 10) == Hello, Sending this message to all contributors to the article... Article has been published. 0) I changed headline and added image attribution for first image. 1) I removed two sentences, as the sources do not have them. Please feel free to re-add with a comment or added source. A. The exhibition seeks public confrontation and healing through these displays. B. The Tenkil Museum, operating as a non-profit with no permanent venue, has previously held exhibitions in Brussels, the  European Parliament, Kassel, and  Frankfurt. 2) Name of museum is confusing. Is it Tenkil Museum? Museum of Repression? Please check this immediately and comment. 3) Would be good to add one or two comments from some public who visited. 4) Would be good to clarify what "Gülenist" means and/or wikilink. Please make the above edits and comments now, ideally within less than 12 hours. Thank you! -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 10:35, 10 February 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Poets gather for reading at Ray's Pizza in New York City]] (February 12) == Sending this message to all users who edited the page ... Published. Krinkle says copyright of photos is ok. Suggest to add how long it took, one hour, two hours, or whatever. Suggest to add utc time in parentheses. Minor changes. Can be done in 24hr or less from now. A bit old. Better to write about it on the day, not a week after. OR kind of makes an exception. But this should be considered in future, to write news straight on the day. Thank you! -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:14, 12 February 2026 (UTC) == [[Sanae Takaichi leads LDP to victory in 2026 Japanese election]] == Hi, you might want to make the same changes you made at my article over at [[Template:Election results]], which is where I copied the format from. Thanks, [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 11:54, 12 February 2026 (UTC) == Review notification == Hello, @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]]: As you may have noticed on your talk page, you have received a couple of review related notification messages for articles you created or contributed to. 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I wanted to write something more positive! @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 12:53, 28 February 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Musical performance presented by Striped Light in Long Island City, New York showcases four performers]] (February 28) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Musical performance presented by Striped Light in Long Island City, New York showcases four performers|author=Metropolitan90|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:57, 28 February 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Caloundra wins first game in Australian soccer's Football Queensland Premier League 2 competition]] (March 3) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Caloundra wins first game in Australian soccer's Football Queensland Premier League 2 competition|author=Metropolitan90|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:04, 3 March 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Caloundra lose round 2 game in Australian soccer's Football Queensland Premier League 2 competition]] (March 11) == Results check out. Quoted Comment assumed ok as it was in previous report. Thank you, a great game and report! ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:03, 11 March 2026 (UTC) == Template:verify == I saw your comment and fixed it. The template tries to ensure it only outputs text if the article is a draft, in order to avoid it rendering text in a published article if it is left behind by accident. It was not configured to detect {{tl|Quick review}}, which isn't often used. I fixed that so you can now see the output.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:54, 19 March 2026 (UTC) *Thanks! --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 22:56, 19 March 2026 (UTC) == Published: [["One Battle After Another" wins 6 Oscars including Best Picture]] (March 21) == <div style="border:2px solid #57DB1E;background:linear-gradient(135deg,#E6FFE6 0%,#F0FFF0 100%);padding:1em 1.5em;color:#1a1a1a;margin:1.5em;border-radius:4px;box-shadow:0 2px 8px rgba(87,219,30,0.15);"> [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|50px|left|link=]] <div style="margin-left:64px;"> <span style="font-size:1.1em;font-weight:bold;color:#2d5016;"> Hi Metropolitan90! Thank you for your submission! </span><br/> Your article '''[["One Battle After Another" wins 6 Oscars including Best Picture]]''' has been reviewed by '''{{User|Michael.C.Wright}}''', and it has been accepted and published. '''Congratulations! 🎉''' <div style="margin-top:0.5em;"> The reviewer's comments and decision are available on the [[Talk:"One Battle After Another" wins 6 Oscars including Best Picture|article's talk page]]. </div> <div style="margin-top:0.5em;"> Excellent work, please keep it up! We hope you will continue contributing to Wikinews. If you have some time, consider taking a look at other articles currently [[:Category:Developing|under development]] or [[:Category:Review|awaiting review]]. Your help in improving or reviewing them would be greatly appreciated. </div> <div style="font-size:0.9em;color:#555;"> ---- This is an automated review notification. 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Thank you for your contributions. </span><br/> The article '''[[South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground]]''', to which you contributed, has now been published. '''Congratulations! 🎉''' <div style="margin-top:0.5em;">The reviewer's comments and decision are available on the [[Talk:South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground|article's talk page]].</div> <div style="margin-top:0.5em;">Thank you very much for your collaborative work and support. We hope you will continue contributing to Wikinews. If you have some time, consider taking a look at other articles currently [[:Category:Developing|under development]] or [[:Category:Review|awaiting review]]. Your help in improving or reviewing them would be greatly appreciated.</div> <div style="font-size:0.9em;color:#555;"> ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. </div></div></div> -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:34, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :That was a weird bug: I specified an empty custom comment, as my clipboard was borked. :Here is a copy... :A few remarks: :1. Having checked sources, I needed to make some changes, such as "near the neck" and not "in the neck", and the bombing incident was last year (not two years ago). Please check the edit history carefully and let me know if any of my changes were incorrect. :2. I am trying to push towards more exclusive content or more closer follow ups here. Could you please either think of the questions to ask the South Korean Army, or, write a follow up report when the investigations completed and drills resumed? :3. Barely newsworthy as this is nearly 5 days old but I think this is fine to publish. :4. For npov balance, recommend including responses from other sources, i.e., from someone who is not a part of the South Korean Army. This may be done up to 24 hours after the story is published. :Overall, this looks great, I appreciate the report!!! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:38, 22 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[7-ton meteor traverses sky over Ohio and several other US states]] (March 27) == Sorry, this report went stale. ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:38, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[AC/DC guitarist Stevie Young admitted to hospital in Buenos Aires, spokesperson says]] (March 27) == Sorry, this report went stale. Did he survive? ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:41, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Regarding your move of my article == Hello, Metropolitan901! I think my article is best located at [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts Päivi Räsänen and Juhana Pohjola of crimes against humanity]] rather than [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts Päivi Räsänen and Juhana Pohjola of inciting hatred]] because the actual charge, the actual crime, and the actual conviction all fall under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} that concerns {{w|crimes against humanity}}. Moreover, there is a particular focus from several sources on the fact that Räsänen and Pohjola were convicted under the section of the Criminal Code of Finland that concerns crimes against humanity. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 00:56, 28 March 2026 (UTC) *I would note that one of the cited sources, [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder this article from The Guardian], begins with the sentence, "A Finnish member of parliament has been found guilty by the country’s supreme court of inciting hatred after claiming that homosexuality was a 'developmental disorder', in a conviction that prompted criticism from far-right government ministers." That source doesn't even mention the term "crimes against humanity" at all. Another cited article from [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html The Independent] doesn't mention "crimes against humanity", either. I am also concerned that the use of the term "{{w|crimes against humanity}}" may be considered misleading as to the nature of the charges involved notwithstanding how the term is used in the Finnish Criminal Code which few English Wikinews readers may be familiar with. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:09, 28 March 2026 (UTC) **[[Talk:Supreme Court of Finland convicts Christians of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians in landmark ruling#Headline question|This discussion was continued here]]. --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:39, 28 March 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Supreme Court of Finland makes crimes against humanity convictions in landmark ruling]] (April 6) == Hi, all, I am sending this message to all contributors to the article. News is over a week old but I am publishing. The headline could be better but there is so much controversy about how to put it properly that I am content with the current revision. Overall as a piece of feedback, it is necessary to be more factual and as much as possible insert facts rather than qualitative characterizations. I believe this has substantially improved in the last few days as the article has been revised. Thank you. I have read the talk page and I believe the concerns there have been satisfactorily addressed in the recent edits and in the resulting current revision. Copyright check passed flagging only the quote(s) included in the text. '''I am recommending to add a sentence about expected consequence (fine, jail time) or if it is unknown then, when is this expected to be determined. If you could please make this change within 24 hours, then it could be sighted and be included in the report.''' Thanks a lot. ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:33, 6 April 2026 (UTC) ghizvtuaow5bwr4ynaunlgujtlyv4a3 5005264 5005245 2026-04-06T02:32:51Z Metropolitan90 314212 /* Revision requested: 7-ton meteor traverses sky over Ohio and several other US states (March 27) */ 5005264 wikitext text/x-wiki {{notice|To reviewers: Many of the "revision requested" notices I receive pertain to articles to which I made only minor revisions and for which I was not the primary author. Hence, I will delete them from this page once the article has been published or deleted.}} {{Template:Welcome-body|realName=|name=Metropolitan90}} -- 04:13, 26 November 2011 (UTC) == How are you? == Hi there. @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:45, 1 October 2025 (UTC) *Fine, thanks. And you? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 12:59, 4 October 2025 (UTC) *:Good, glad to hear, Do you think you will start news articles here anytime soon? Thanks @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:40, 4 October 2025 (UTC) *::I already have one pending and waiting for review. I'm not going to start any additional ones until the first one has been reviewed. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:12, 5 October 2025 (UTC) *:::Oh I was away for a week, were there any recent developments about this? Has anyone accepted the proposal? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 01:54, 10 October 2025 (UTC) ==Review Reformation== Thank you for your comment at [[Talk:Warrington Hudlin honored at 2025 Queens World Film Festival]]. I have been posting in various places because in the time I've been here, every single non-original reporting article I've written has become stale - in one case, because it was not reviewed in a timely manner, I was asked to update it, and then THAT was not reviewed in a timely manner, so again it was marked stale. I've seen this happen to other peoples' articles as well. I don't think this is a good look, and I also think it's a waste of peoples' effort and serves no purpose. Anyway, if you'd like to see my attempts at reform of this process that is not working at all, I've made a few scattered comments at [[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals]] and a thread at [[Wikinews talk:Newsworthiness]] if you'd be interested in participating. Thanks! [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:00, 31 October 2025 (UTC) *I have commented in the thread at [[Wikinews talk:Newsworthiness]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC) == Reviews 'Sandhani' article == Please see my comments on the Talk page of that article. You are new here, and we are glad you've taken an interest in this project. 'Freshness' is important here. We focus on discreet news events -- sometimes things go stale and I hate that. But, we are an imperfect project -- always trying to get better. I say (a bit whimsically, so take it as such), "Don't fall in love with your articles." I have felt the sting of working hard on an article, and then it goes stale before it is published. I can respect the annoyance. Get the news, write the news, submit the news -- and, move on.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:57, 31 October 2025 (UTC) *To be clear, I certainly didn't "fall in love" with [[ShSMC Sandhani unit opens registration for 2023-24]], an article which I didn't create and which has some significant editing issues. But I think that the people who take the time to write articles ought to receive timely reviews of those articles. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 02:06, 1 November 2025 (UTC) *:I'd counter "don't fall in love with your articles" with "don't fall in love with your policies" that don't seem to be working to make a news site (or anything useful). I was asked here to investigate and maybe help reform things, but I am not sure where to turn. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 04:28, 1 November 2025 (UTC) == Hudlin article == Please see my remarks at that Talk page.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:14, 3 November 2025 (UTC) == Top article for October == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in {{#time:F|{{#time:Y-m-d|-1 month}}}}, 2025. The article has at least 3,032 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[Israeli naval ships intercept Gaza-bound Global Sumud Flotilla]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in {{#time:F|{{#time:Y-m-d|-1 month}}}} of 2025. As a relatively new contributor, this is great! Thanks for all your help! {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image-->[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:25, 15 November 2025 (UTC) == Shooting article == Sorry -- brain glitch -- what is the AI-generated bit?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:56, 18 November 2025 (UTC) *The last section of the talk page at [[Talk:Shooting at Benihana restaurant in Maple Grove, Minnesota leaves one injured]] has the heading "Eye witness notes ai" which I interpreted to mean that AI was used to generate the information there. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:57, 19 November 2025 (UTC) *:AI notes I didn't use all AI I think... @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 12:31, 19 November 2025 (UTC) *::In any event, though, the actual source should be cited in the article's Sources section unless the article is based on original reporting. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 14:55, 19 November 2025 (UTC) *:::As @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] said [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crowds_gather_for_35th_Tompkins_Square_Halloween_Dog_Parade_amid_car_incident&diff=prev&oldid=4889835] here, "''We need to be extremely cautious when incorporating information from AI or large language models.''", when the last set of AI notes like this had some blatantly false information. What is the purpose of that section anyway? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:12, 19 November 2025 (UTC) == Hello == Hi, could you please install [[User:Asked42/Taglet]] now to help triage new pages by marking them with event dates? this would greatly speed up page review, thanks! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:38, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :Hi, once it installed, at [[Special:TagletReport]], scroll down and tag untagged pages with event dates, could you please do this every day for 2-3 minutes, thanks! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:06, 10 December 2025 (UTC) == Your article submission for review (December 14) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Football: Nottingham Forest beat FC Utrecht 2-1|author=Metropolitan90|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:58, 14 December 2025 (UTC) == Your article submission for review (December 14) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Battery explosion triggers fatal office fire in Jakarta’s Kemayoran district|author=Metropolitan90|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 00:40, 15 December 2025 (UTC) == Top article in November! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in {{#time:F|{{#time:Y-m-d|-1 month}}}}, 2025. The article has at least 2,218 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[India wins 2025 Women's Cricket World Cup, defeating South Africa by 52 runs]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in {{#time:F|{{#time:Y-m-d|-1 month}}}} of 2025. Thank you for contributing to articles and helping to make sure they are publishable! {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image-->[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:50, 15 December 2025 (UTC) == Your article submission for review (December 16) == Stale story. Sorry. Event: Dec09. Submitted for review: Dec13. :'-( Please submit article for review earlier. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 10:28, 16 December 2025 (UTC) *{{ping|Gryllida}} What article are you referring to? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 14:45, 16 December 2025 (UTC) *:Sorry, *:https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Minneapolis%E2%80%93Saint_Paul_International_Airport_man_dies_after_being_struck_by_snowplow *:Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:57, 17 December 2025 (UTC) **That one wasn't mine. Yes, I made edits to that article, but I make edits to a high percentage of articles nowadays. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 05:15, 17 December 2025 (UTC) **:Yeah this note was sent to all users who edited the story. Sorry, that this was not clear, I will make it clearer in future messages. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:47, 17 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Domestic call in Rochester, New York leads to three police officers being shot]] (December 26) == Hello, This message is being sent to you as you contributed to the article at some point. The article was published. Congratulations. For your reference, as a part of my review, the article required several minor edits. Some of these changes may be related to your edits, while others may be related to edits made by other users. The list of minor edits is provided below. 1) Specified date in first paragraph more clearly, as it is a Friday today, my local time anyway, but event was last week. 2) Cleaned up a messy paragraph at the end of the page The following review comments were added: 1) The article presents a nearly stale event on Dec19 which was written up on Dec21 and submitted for review on Dec24. <mark>Please do not delay submitting for review. Please submit for review as early as possible. THIS IS IMPORTANT.</mark> 2) The article contains the following paragraph: ''Officers responded to a 911 call around 10:15 p.m. after a man reported that his girlfriend's ex-boyfriend was attempting to break into her home and might have a gun ��. When officers arrived and located Davis at the side of the house, he immediately pulled out a handgun and opened fire at close range, striking two officers and the 911 caller ��. One officer was shot multiple times in the upper body but was protected by his ballistic vest and sustained non-life-threatening injuries, while the second officer was shot in the upper body and required surgery, leaving him in critical but stable condition ��.Davis fled the scene and was found minutes later at the intersection of Arnett Boulevard and Thurston Road �. When ordered to stop by a third officer, Davis opened fire again, shooting the officer once in the upper body ��. That officer and others returned fire, striking Davis multiple times and killing him at the scene ��.Casualties and ConditionsAll three wounded officers were treated at Strong Memorial Hospital and received life-saving treatment �. The 911 caller, who had exchanged gunfire with Davis and was shot multiple times, was also hospitalized in serious but non-life-threatening condition ��. Police Chief David Smith noted that each of the injured officers had fewer than 10 years on the force �.Background on the SuspectDavis had an active arrest warrant for aggravated harassment from an October incident and had previously threatened the victim in July, telling her he would "put a bullet in her head," which led to her obtaining an order of protection �. He was convicted of third-degree burglary in 2005 and was illegally possessing a .40-caliber Glock handgun at the time of the shooting, which he fired until it was empty �. Rochester Mayor Malik Evans called the incident "people's Exhibit A on what domestic violence can do," noting that the police department receives more than 6,000 domestic violence calls annually ��.'' This is garbage because: a) It is too long b) it has " ��" in between sentences c) It has incomplete sentences like "Background on the SuspectDavis had an active arrest warrant ..." <mark>Please do not submit crappy paragraphs for review. This delays publishing. The only thing a reviewer can do is delete the whole paragraph, or clean it up; which is time consuming and disrespectful because you could have done the same too before submitting article for review and because it is not publishable in current form. PLEASE ONLY SUBMIT COMPLETED ARTICLES. THIS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.</mark> Thank you. Have a great day. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:25, 25 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Kennedy Center gets renamed to Trump-Kennedy Center]] (December 26) == The article has been published. Congratulations. The following edits were made by reviewer: 1) Article body written in past tense 2) External links moved to a section called 'External links' 3) Rearranged to specify the date in the first paragraph, see [[WN:IP|inverted pyramid]] Please keep these comments in mind when writing or editing articles in the future. The following notes were left by reviewer: 1) The previous review raised concern about bias in words such as 'many' in 'many commenters' or 'illegal in many ways', it was disappointing that this was not addressed at time of submitting for review. 2) Article was written on time and submitted on Dec22, which is not excellent for a Dec19 event, but is good. It is on the edge of being stale now, as is is already Dec25, and I am making the decision to pass. 3) Please write article about what happened, whether the rename was approved by authorities. Has there been any recent updates? Please consider revising more thoroughly before re-submitting for review; writing up a story and submitting for review sooner and closer to the event date; and also consider writing a article about updates, if any updates were available, immediately after these updates occurred. Many thanks. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:47, 25 December 2025 (UTC) :Also, the image licensing is unclear. It should be revised in Wikimedia Commons, as it is not 'Own work' unless you took the photo. It is likely that the image will need to be re-uploaded locally at Wikinews, via [[Special:Upload]], as Wikimedia Commons does not allow uploads of 'fair use' images. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:52, 25 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Opposition leader Tarique Rahman returns to Bangladesh after 17 years]] (December 29) == Published. Congratulations. Reviewer left following comment: 1) MINOR EDIT REQUESTED: Article is, while written as objectively as possible, dominated by points of view of the opposition. I strongly recommend adding point of view of the current ruling party about this event. Please do so within next 12 hours or less, and mention my nick in the edit summary so that I can sight the edit. Thanks. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:42, 28 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Keyboardist-guitarist of English rock band The Cure dies aged 65]] (January 3) == Event over 7 days old. Passing as exception in context of following factors * nobody was around on holidays anyway (I am being lenient) * the article is well written * it is obituary about a person's whole life so it is still slightly newsy for a while Please do not consider this as precedent for future articles. Thanks -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:42, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Residents shelter in place for hours after gas leak outside of Los Angeles]] (January 3) == Published. Congratulations, and thank you for starting, or revising, the article. Notes from reviewer: 1) This is on the edge of being old and no longer 'news', but still acceptable. 2) If AI/LLM was used, please leave a note on the article talk page immediately. This is required. Thank you. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:06, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Kyiv street to be named for former Ukrainian parliament chairman Andriy Parubiy, killed in Lviv]] (January 6) == Published with comment 1) Delightful news, thank you for writing about it. I just added street name and 'and on Facebook' in the first paragraph; if this is incorrect, please let me know now. Thank you. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:27, 5 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Grateful Dead bassist Bob Weir dies, aged 78]] (January 16) == i spelled out group name assuming meant to be 'the Grateful Dead' where says 'the Dead': please correct this now if this is not correct. thanks. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 17:58, 15 January 2026 (UTC) *Those changes were accurate. That said, at least in more casual writing it would have been fine to leave it as "the Dead", though. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 02:34, 16 January 2026 (UTC) *:See {{w|Deadhead}}... :) [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 03:51, 16 January 2026 (UTC) == Top article in December == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in {{#time:F|{{#time:Y-m-d|-1 month}}}}, 2025. The article has at least 3,042 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[Raccoon found passed out in liquor store after drunken rampage]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in {{#time:F|{{#time:Y-m-d|-1 month}}}} of 2025. {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image-->[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:57, 17 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father]] (January 20) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father|author=Metropolitan90|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:09, 20 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Bruce Gallanter interviews Elliott Sharp, Joe Fonda at Downtown Music Gallery event]] (January 22) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Bruce Gallanter interviews Elliott Sharp, Joe Fonda at Downtown Music Gallery event|author=Metropolitan90|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:31, 22 January 2026 (UTC) == Become a reviewer == Are you interested in becoming a reviewer here? You routinely contribute not only to article content but also in talk space to help others improve articles, which is a big part of the reviewer role. You also clearly understand we desperately need more reviewers. I am willing to nominate and support your request for privileges and help you get up and running as a reviewer if the community accepts.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:04, 5 February 2026 (UTC) :Thanks, I would consider it in the future but I am not ready to take on the position right now. At this point I haven't even managed to start one article that wound up being published. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 17:25, 5 February 2026 (UTC) ::We need reviewers desperately though, @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:27, 5 February 2026 (UTC) :: Understood. If you are interested, then I recommend working deliberately in that direction by continuing to support the community as you have been and also working to get a few of your own articles published. :: You could also help the community by doing [[template:Pre-review|pre-reviews]] if you wanted. I did several and then used them as part of my reviewer request, to demonstrate abilities.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:30, 5 February 2026 (UTC) == Published: [["Media and Tenkil" exhibit opens in Hanau, Germany]] (February 10) == Hello, Sending this message to all contributors to the article... Article has been published. 0) I changed headline and added image attribution for first image. 1) I removed two sentences, as the sources do not have them. Please feel free to re-add with a comment or added source. A. The exhibition seeks public confrontation and healing through these displays. B. The Tenkil Museum, operating as a non-profit with no permanent venue, has previously held exhibitions in Brussels, the  European Parliament, Kassel, and  Frankfurt. 2) Name of museum is confusing. Is it Tenkil Museum? Museum of Repression? Please check this immediately and comment. 3) Would be good to add one or two comments from some public who visited. 4) Would be good to clarify what "Gülenist" means and/or wikilink. Please make the above edits and comments now, ideally within less than 12 hours. Thank you! -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 10:35, 10 February 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Poets gather for reading at Ray's Pizza in New York City]] (February 12) == Sending this message to all users who edited the page ... Published. Krinkle says copyright of photos is ok. Suggest to add how long it took, one hour, two hours, or whatever. Suggest to add utc time in parentheses. Minor changes. Can be done in 24hr or less from now. A bit old. Better to write about it on the day, not a week after. OR kind of makes an exception. But this should be considered in future, to write news straight on the day. Thank you! -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:14, 12 February 2026 (UTC) == [[Sanae Takaichi leads LDP to victory in 2026 Japanese election]] == Hi, you might want to make the same changes you made at my article over at [[Template:Election results]], which is where I copied the format from. Thanks, [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 11:54, 12 February 2026 (UTC) == Review notification == Hello, @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]]: As you may have noticed on your talk page, you have received a couple of review related notification messages for articles you created or contributed to. First of all, thank you for your contributions. I wanted to ask whether you find these notifications on your talk page helpful throughout the article development lifecycle. Also, do you have any suggestions regarding the way or frequency these notifications are posted? I have been considering adding a preference option that would allow users to choose whether they want to receive notifications only for articles they created, articles they significantly contributed to, or not receive such messages at all. What are your thoughts on this before I proceed with implementing such a preferences option? -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 16:47, 26 February 2026 (UTC) == thank you == for your help on mlb story, i submitted it for review for feedback because I think it's to short of length for right now. Thanks again! I wanted to write something more positive! @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 12:53, 28 February 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Musical performance presented by Striped Light in Long Island City, New York showcases four performers]] (February 28) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Musical performance presented by Striped Light in Long Island City, New York showcases four performers|author=Metropolitan90|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:57, 28 February 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Caloundra wins first game in Australian soccer's Football Queensland Premier League 2 competition]] (March 3) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Caloundra wins first game in Australian soccer's Football Queensland Premier League 2 competition|author=Metropolitan90|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:04, 3 March 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Caloundra lose round 2 game in Australian soccer's Football Queensland Premier League 2 competition]] (March 11) == Results check out. Quoted Comment assumed ok as it was in previous report. Thank you, a great game and report! ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:03, 11 March 2026 (UTC) == Template:verify == I saw your comment and fixed it. The template tries to ensure it only outputs text if the article is a draft, in order to avoid it rendering text in a published article if it is left behind by accident. It was not configured to detect {{tl|Quick review}}, which isn't often used. I fixed that so you can now see the output.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:54, 19 March 2026 (UTC) *Thanks! --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 22:56, 19 March 2026 (UTC) == Published: [["One Battle After Another" wins 6 Oscars including Best Picture]] (March 21) == <div style="border:2px solid #57DB1E;background:linear-gradient(135deg,#E6FFE6 0%,#F0FFF0 100%);padding:1em 1.5em;color:#1a1a1a;margin:1.5em;border-radius:4px;box-shadow:0 2px 8px rgba(87,219,30,0.15);"> [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|50px|left|link=]] <div style="margin-left:64px;"> <span style="font-size:1.1em;font-weight:bold;color:#2d5016;"> Hi Metropolitan90! Thank you for your submission! </span><br/> Your article '''[["One Battle After Another" wins 6 Oscars including Best Picture]]''' has been reviewed by '''{{User|Michael.C.Wright}}''', and it has been accepted and published. '''Congratulations! 🎉''' <div style="margin-top:0.5em;"> The reviewer's comments and decision are available on the [[Talk:"One Battle After Another" wins 6 Oscars including Best Picture|article's talk page]]. </div> <div style="margin-top:0.5em;"> Excellent work, please keep it up! We hope you will continue contributing to Wikinews. If you have some time, consider taking a look at other articles currently [[:Category:Developing|under development]] or [[:Category:Review|awaiting review]]. Your help in improving or reviewing them would be greatly appreciated. </div> <div style="font-size:0.9em;color:#555;"> ---- This is an automated review notification. 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Thank you for your contributions. </span><br/> The article '''[[South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground]]''', to which you contributed, has now been published. '''Congratulations! 🎉''' <div style="margin-top:0.5em;">The reviewer's comments and decision are available on the [[Talk:South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground|article's talk page]].</div> <div style="margin-top:0.5em;">Thank you very much for your collaborative work and support. We hope you will continue contributing to Wikinews. If you have some time, consider taking a look at other articles currently [[:Category:Developing|under development]] or [[:Category:Review|awaiting review]]. Your help in improving or reviewing them would be greatly appreciated.</div> <div style="font-size:0.9em;color:#555;"> ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. </div></div></div> -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:34, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :That was a weird bug: I specified an empty custom comment, as my clipboard was borked. :Here is a copy... :A few remarks: :1. Having checked sources, I needed to make some changes, such as "near the neck" and not "in the neck", and the bombing incident was last year (not two years ago). Please check the edit history carefully and let me know if any of my changes were incorrect. :2. I am trying to push towards more exclusive content or more closer follow ups here. Could you please either think of the questions to ask the South Korean Army, or, write a follow up report when the investigations completed and drills resumed? :3. Barely newsworthy as this is nearly 5 days old but I think this is fine to publish. :4. For npov balance, recommend including responses from other sources, i.e., from someone who is not a part of the South Korean Army. This may be done up to 24 hours after the story is published. :Overall, this looks great, I appreciate the report!!! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:38, 22 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[AC/DC guitarist Stevie Young admitted to hospital in Buenos Aires, spokesperson says]] (March 27) == Sorry, this report went stale. Did he survive? ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:41, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Regarding your move of my article == Hello, Metropolitan901! I think my article is best located at [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts Päivi Räsänen and Juhana Pohjola of crimes against humanity]] rather than [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts Päivi Räsänen and Juhana Pohjola of inciting hatred]] because the actual charge, the actual crime, and the actual conviction all fall under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} that concerns {{w|crimes against humanity}}. Moreover, there is a particular focus from several sources on the fact that Räsänen and Pohjola were convicted under the section of the Criminal Code of Finland that concerns crimes against humanity. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 00:56, 28 March 2026 (UTC) *I would note that one of the cited sources, [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder this article from The Guardian], begins with the sentence, "A Finnish member of parliament has been found guilty by the country’s supreme court of inciting hatred after claiming that homosexuality was a 'developmental disorder', in a conviction that prompted criticism from far-right government ministers." That source doesn't even mention the term "crimes against humanity" at all. Another cited article from [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html The Independent] doesn't mention "crimes against humanity", either. I am also concerned that the use of the term "{{w|crimes against humanity}}" may be considered misleading as to the nature of the charges involved notwithstanding how the term is used in the Finnish Criminal Code which few English Wikinews readers may be familiar with. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:09, 28 March 2026 (UTC) **[[Talk:Supreme Court of Finland convicts Christians of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians in landmark ruling#Headline question|This discussion was continued here]]. --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:39, 28 March 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Supreme Court of Finland makes crimes against humanity convictions in landmark ruling]] (April 6) == Hi, all, I am sending this message to all contributors to the article. News is over a week old but I am publishing. The headline could be better but there is so much controversy about how to put it properly that I am content with the current revision. Overall as a piece of feedback, it is necessary to be more factual and as much as possible insert facts rather than qualitative characterizations. I believe this has substantially improved in the last few days as the article has been revised. Thank you. I have read the talk page and I believe the concerns there have been satisfactorily addressed in the recent edits and in the resulting current revision. Copyright check passed flagging only the quote(s) included in the text. '''I am recommending to add a sentence about expected consequence (fine, jail time) or if it is unknown then, when is this expected to be determined. If you could please make this change within 24 hours, then it could be sighted and be included in the report.''' Thanks a lot. ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:33, 6 April 2026 (UTC) guc2rgpil19ksir680nk5z0q21056nz 5005349 5005264 2026-04-06T09:00:51Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Notifying about the review of [[Performance_Space_in_New_York_City_holds_annual_gala_honoring_three_artists]] 5005349 wikitext text/x-wiki {{notice|To reviewers: Many of the "revision requested" notices I receive pertain to articles to which I made only minor revisions and for which I was not the primary author. Hence, I will delete them from this page once the article has been published or deleted.}} {{Template:Welcome-body|realName=|name=Metropolitan90}} -- 04:13, 26 November 2011 (UTC) == How are you? == Hi there. @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:45, 1 October 2025 (UTC) *Fine, thanks. And you? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 12:59, 4 October 2025 (UTC) *:Good, glad to hear, Do you think you will start news articles here anytime soon? Thanks @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:40, 4 October 2025 (UTC) *::I already have one pending and waiting for review. I'm not going to start any additional ones until the first one has been reviewed. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:12, 5 October 2025 (UTC) *:::Oh I was away for a week, were there any recent developments about this? Has anyone accepted the proposal? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 01:54, 10 October 2025 (UTC) ==Review Reformation== Thank you for your comment at [[Talk:Warrington Hudlin honored at 2025 Queens World Film Festival]]. I have been posting in various places because in the time I've been here, every single non-original reporting article I've written has become stale - in one case, because it was not reviewed in a timely manner, I was asked to update it, and then THAT was not reviewed in a timely manner, so again it was marked stale. I've seen this happen to other peoples' articles as well. I don't think this is a good look, and I also think it's a waste of peoples' effort and serves no purpose. Anyway, if you'd like to see my attempts at reform of this process that is not working at all, I've made a few scattered comments at [[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals]] and a thread at [[Wikinews talk:Newsworthiness]] if you'd be interested in participating. Thanks! [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:00, 31 October 2025 (UTC) *I have commented in the thread at [[Wikinews talk:Newsworthiness]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC) == Reviews 'Sandhani' article == Please see my comments on the Talk page of that article. You are new here, and we are glad you've taken an interest in this project. 'Freshness' is important here. We focus on discreet news events -- sometimes things go stale and I hate that. But, we are an imperfect project -- always trying to get better. I say (a bit whimsically, so take it as such), "Don't fall in love with your articles." I have felt the sting of working hard on an article, and then it goes stale before it is published. I can respect the annoyance. Get the news, write the news, submit the news -- and, move on.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:57, 31 October 2025 (UTC) *To be clear, I certainly didn't "fall in love" with [[ShSMC Sandhani unit opens registration for 2023-24]], an article which I didn't create and which has some significant editing issues. But I think that the people who take the time to write articles ought to receive timely reviews of those articles. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 02:06, 1 November 2025 (UTC) *:I'd counter "don't fall in love with your articles" with "don't fall in love with your policies" that don't seem to be working to make a news site (or anything useful). I was asked here to investigate and maybe help reform things, but I am not sure where to turn. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 04:28, 1 November 2025 (UTC) == Hudlin article == Please see my remarks at that Talk page.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:14, 3 November 2025 (UTC) == Top article for October == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in {{#time:F|{{#time:Y-m-d|-1 month}}}}, 2025. The article has at least 3,032 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[Israeli naval ships intercept Gaza-bound Global Sumud Flotilla]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in {{#time:F|{{#time:Y-m-d|-1 month}}}} of 2025. As a relatively new contributor, this is great! Thanks for all your help! {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image-->[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:25, 15 November 2025 (UTC) == Shooting article == Sorry -- brain glitch -- what is the AI-generated bit?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:56, 18 November 2025 (UTC) *The last section of the talk page at [[Talk:Shooting at Benihana restaurant in Maple Grove, Minnesota leaves one injured]] has the heading "Eye witness notes ai" which I interpreted to mean that AI was used to generate the information there. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:57, 19 November 2025 (UTC) *:AI notes I didn't use all AI I think... @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 12:31, 19 November 2025 (UTC) *::In any event, though, the actual source should be cited in the article's Sources section unless the article is based on original reporting. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 14:55, 19 November 2025 (UTC) *:::As @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] said [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crowds_gather_for_35th_Tompkins_Square_Halloween_Dog_Parade_amid_car_incident&diff=prev&oldid=4889835] here, "''We need to be extremely cautious when incorporating information from AI or large language models.''", when the last set of AI notes like this had some blatantly false information. What is the purpose of that section anyway? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:12, 19 November 2025 (UTC) == Hello == Hi, could you please install [[User:Asked42/Taglet]] now to help triage new pages by marking them with event dates? this would greatly speed up page review, thanks! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:38, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :Hi, once it installed, at [[Special:TagletReport]], scroll down and tag untagged pages with event dates, could you please do this every day for 2-3 minutes, thanks! 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The article has at least 2,218 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[India wins 2025 Women's Cricket World Cup, defeating South Africa by 52 runs]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in {{#time:F|{{#time:Y-m-d|-1 month}}}} of 2025. Thank you for contributing to articles and helping to make sure they are publishable! {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image-->[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:50, 15 December 2025 (UTC) == Your article submission for review (December 16) == Stale story. Sorry. Event: Dec09. Submitted for review: Dec13. :'-( Please submit article for review earlier. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 10:28, 16 December 2025 (UTC) *{{ping|Gryllida}} What article are you referring to? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 14:45, 16 December 2025 (UTC) *:Sorry, *:https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Minneapolis%E2%80%93Saint_Paul_International_Airport_man_dies_after_being_struck_by_snowplow *:Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:57, 17 December 2025 (UTC) **That one wasn't mine. Yes, I made edits to that article, but I make edits to a high percentage of articles nowadays. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 05:15, 17 December 2025 (UTC) **:Yeah this note was sent to all users who edited the story. Sorry, that this was not clear, I will make it clearer in future messages. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:47, 17 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Domestic call in Rochester, New York leads to three police officers being shot]] (December 26) == Hello, This message is being sent to you as you contributed to the article at some point. The article was published. Congratulations. For your reference, as a part of my review, the article required several minor edits. Some of these changes may be related to your edits, while others may be related to edits made by other users. The list of minor edits is provided below. 1) Specified date in first paragraph more clearly, as it is a Friday today, my local time anyway, but event was last week. 2) Cleaned up a messy paragraph at the end of the page The following review comments were added: 1) The article presents a nearly stale event on Dec19 which was written up on Dec21 and submitted for review on Dec24. <mark>Please do not delay submitting for review. Please submit for review as early as possible. THIS IS IMPORTANT.</mark> 2) The article contains the following paragraph: ''Officers responded to a 911 call around 10:15 p.m. after a man reported that his girlfriend's ex-boyfriend was attempting to break into her home and might have a gun ��. When officers arrived and located Davis at the side of the house, he immediately pulled out a handgun and opened fire at close range, striking two officers and the 911 caller ��. One officer was shot multiple times in the upper body but was protected by his ballistic vest and sustained non-life-threatening injuries, while the second officer was shot in the upper body and required surgery, leaving him in critical but stable condition ��.Davis fled the scene and was found minutes later at the intersection of Arnett Boulevard and Thurston Road �. When ordered to stop by a third officer, Davis opened fire again, shooting the officer once in the upper body ��. That officer and others returned fire, striking Davis multiple times and killing him at the scene ��.Casualties and ConditionsAll three wounded officers were treated at Strong Memorial Hospital and received life-saving treatment �. The 911 caller, who had exchanged gunfire with Davis and was shot multiple times, was also hospitalized in serious but non-life-threatening condition ��. Police Chief David Smith noted that each of the injured officers had fewer than 10 years on the force �.Background on the SuspectDavis had an active arrest warrant for aggravated harassment from an October incident and had previously threatened the victim in July, telling her he would "put a bullet in her head," which led to her obtaining an order of protection �. He was convicted of third-degree burglary in 2005 and was illegally possessing a .40-caliber Glock handgun at the time of the shooting, which he fired until it was empty �. Rochester Mayor Malik Evans called the incident "people's Exhibit A on what domestic violence can do," noting that the police department receives more than 6,000 domestic violence calls annually ��.'' This is garbage because: a) It is too long b) it has " ��" in between sentences c) It has incomplete sentences like "Background on the SuspectDavis had an active arrest warrant ..." <mark>Please do not submit crappy paragraphs for review. This delays publishing. The only thing a reviewer can do is delete the whole paragraph, or clean it up; which is time consuming and disrespectful because you could have done the same too before submitting article for review and because it is not publishable in current form. PLEASE ONLY SUBMIT COMPLETED ARTICLES. THIS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.</mark> Thank you. Have a great day. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:25, 25 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Kennedy Center gets renamed to Trump-Kennedy Center]] (December 26) == The article has been published. Congratulations. The following edits were made by reviewer: 1) Article body written in past tense 2) External links moved to a section called 'External links' 3) Rearranged to specify the date in the first paragraph, see [[WN:IP|inverted pyramid]] Please keep these comments in mind when writing or editing articles in the future. The following notes were left by reviewer: 1) The previous review raised concern about bias in words such as 'many' in 'many commenters' or 'illegal in many ways', it was disappointing that this was not addressed at time of submitting for review. 2) Article was written on time and submitted on Dec22, which is not excellent for a Dec19 event, but is good. It is on the edge of being stale now, as is is already Dec25, and I am making the decision to pass. 3) Please write article about what happened, whether the rename was approved by authorities. Has there been any recent updates? Please consider revising more thoroughly before re-submitting for review; writing up a story and submitting for review sooner and closer to the event date; and also consider writing a article about updates, if any updates were available, immediately after these updates occurred. Many thanks. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:47, 25 December 2025 (UTC) :Also, the image licensing is unclear. It should be revised in Wikimedia Commons, as it is not 'Own work' unless you took the photo. It is likely that the image will need to be re-uploaded locally at Wikinews, via [[Special:Upload]], as Wikimedia Commons does not allow uploads of 'fair use' images. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:52, 25 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Opposition leader Tarique Rahman returns to Bangladesh after 17 years]] (December 29) == Published. Congratulations. Reviewer left following comment: 1) MINOR EDIT REQUESTED: Article is, while written as objectively as possible, dominated by points of view of the opposition. I strongly recommend adding point of view of the current ruling party about this event. Please do so within next 12 hours or less, and mention my nick in the edit summary so that I can sight the edit. Thanks. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:42, 28 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Keyboardist-guitarist of English rock band The Cure dies aged 65]] (January 3) == Event over 7 days old. Passing as exception in context of following factors * nobody was around on holidays anyway (I am being lenient) * the article is well written * it is obituary about a person's whole life so it is still slightly newsy for a while Please do not consider this as precedent for future articles. Thanks -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:42, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Residents shelter in place for hours after gas leak outside of Los Angeles]] (January 3) == Published. Congratulations, and thank you for starting, or revising, the article. Notes from reviewer: 1) This is on the edge of being old and no longer 'news', but still acceptable. 2) If AI/LLM was used, please leave a note on the article talk page immediately. This is required. Thank you. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:06, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Kyiv street to be named for former Ukrainian parliament chairman Andriy Parubiy, killed in Lviv]] (January 6) == Published with comment 1) Delightful news, thank you for writing about it. I just added street name and 'and on Facebook' in the first paragraph; if this is incorrect, please let me know now. Thank you. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:27, 5 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Grateful Dead bassist Bob Weir dies, aged 78]] (January 16) == i spelled out group name assuming meant to be 'the Grateful Dead' where says 'the Dead': please correct this now if this is not correct. thanks. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 17:58, 15 January 2026 (UTC) *Those changes were accurate. That said, at least in more casual writing it would have been fine to leave it as "the Dead", though. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 02:34, 16 January 2026 (UTC) *:See {{w|Deadhead}}... :) [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 03:51, 16 January 2026 (UTC) == Top article in December == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in {{#time:F|{{#time:Y-m-d|-1 month}}}}, 2025. 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The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in {{#time:F|{{#time:Y-m-d|-1 month}}}} of 2025. {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image-->[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:57, 17 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father]] (January 20) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father|author=Metropolitan90|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:09, 20 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Bruce Gallanter interviews Elliott Sharp, Joe Fonda at Downtown Music Gallery event]] (January 22) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Bruce Gallanter interviews Elliott Sharp, Joe Fonda at Downtown Music Gallery event|author=Metropolitan90|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:31, 22 January 2026 (UTC) == Become a reviewer == Are you interested in becoming a reviewer here? You routinely contribute not only to article content but also in talk space to help others improve articles, which is a big part of the reviewer role. You also clearly understand we desperately need more reviewers. I am willing to nominate and support your request for privileges and help you get up and running as a reviewer if the community accepts.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:04, 5 February 2026 (UTC) :Thanks, I would consider it in the future but I am not ready to take on the position right now. At this point I haven't even managed to start one article that wound up being published. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 17:25, 5 February 2026 (UTC) ::We need reviewers desperately though, @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:27, 5 February 2026 (UTC) :: Understood. If you are interested, then I recommend working deliberately in that direction by continuing to support the community as you have been and also working to get a few of your own articles published. :: You could also help the community by doing [[template:Pre-review|pre-reviews]] if you wanted. I did several and then used them as part of my reviewer request, to demonstrate abilities.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:30, 5 February 2026 (UTC) == Published: [["Media and Tenkil" exhibit opens in Hanau, Germany]] (February 10) == Hello, Sending this message to all contributors to the article... Article has been published. 0) I changed headline and added image attribution for first image. 1) I removed two sentences, as the sources do not have them. Please feel free to re-add with a comment or added source. A. The exhibition seeks public confrontation and healing through these displays. B. The Tenkil Museum, operating as a non-profit with no permanent venue, has previously held exhibitions in Brussels, the  European Parliament, Kassel, and  Frankfurt. 2) Name of museum is confusing. Is it Tenkil Museum? Museum of Repression? Please check this immediately and comment. 3) Would be good to add one or two comments from some public who visited. 4) Would be good to clarify what "Gülenist" means and/or wikilink. Please make the above edits and comments now, ideally within less than 12 hours. Thank you! -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 10:35, 10 February 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Poets gather for reading at Ray's Pizza in New York City]] (February 12) == Sending this message to all users who edited the page ... Published. Krinkle says copyright of photos is ok. Suggest to add how long it took, one hour, two hours, or whatever. Suggest to add utc time in parentheses. Minor changes. Can be done in 24hr or less from now. A bit old. Better to write about it on the day, not a week after. OR kind of makes an exception. But this should be considered in future, to write news straight on the day. Thank you! -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:14, 12 February 2026 (UTC) == [[Sanae Takaichi leads LDP to victory in 2026 Japanese election]] == Hi, you might want to make the same changes you made at my article over at [[Template:Election results]], which is where I copied the format from. Thanks, [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 11:54, 12 February 2026 (UTC) == Review notification == Hello, @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]]: As you may have noticed on your talk page, you have received a couple of review related notification messages for articles you created or contributed to. First of all, thank you for your contributions. I wanted to ask whether you find these notifications on your talk page helpful throughout the article development lifecycle. Also, do you have any suggestions regarding the way or frequency these notifications are posted? I have been considering adding a preference option that would allow users to choose whether they want to receive notifications only for articles they created, articles they significantly contributed to, or not receive such messages at all. What are your thoughts on this before I proceed with implementing such a preferences option? -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 16:47, 26 February 2026 (UTC) == thank you == for your help on mlb story, i submitted it for review for feedback because I think it's to short of length for right now. Thanks again! I wanted to write something more positive! @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 12:53, 28 February 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Musical performance presented by Striped Light in Long Island City, New York showcases four performers]] (February 28) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Musical performance presented by Striped Light in Long Island City, New York showcases four performers|author=Metropolitan90|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:57, 28 February 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Caloundra wins first game in Australian soccer's Football Queensland Premier League 2 competition]] (March 3) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Caloundra wins first game in Australian soccer's Football Queensland Premier League 2 competition|author=Metropolitan90|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:04, 3 March 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Caloundra lose round 2 game in Australian soccer's Football Queensland Premier League 2 competition]] (March 11) == Results check out. Quoted Comment assumed ok as it was in previous report. Thank you, a great game and report! ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:03, 11 March 2026 (UTC) == Template:verify == I saw your comment and fixed it. The template tries to ensure it only outputs text if the article is a draft, in order to avoid it rendering text in a published article if it is left behind by accident. It was not configured to detect {{tl|Quick review}}, which isn't often used. I fixed that so you can now see the output.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:54, 19 March 2026 (UTC) *Thanks! --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 22:56, 19 March 2026 (UTC) == Published: [["One Battle After Another" wins 6 Oscars including Best Picture]] (March 21) == <div style="border:2px solid #57DB1E;background:linear-gradient(135deg,#E6FFE6 0%,#F0FFF0 100%);padding:1em 1.5em;color:#1a1a1a;margin:1.5em;border-radius:4px;box-shadow:0 2px 8px rgba(87,219,30,0.15);"> [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|50px|left|link=]] <div style="margin-left:64px;"> <span style="font-size:1.1em;font-weight:bold;color:#2d5016;"> Hi Metropolitan90! Thank you for your submission! </span><br/> Your article '''[["One Battle After Another" wins 6 Oscars including Best Picture]]''' has been reviewed by '''{{User|Michael.C.Wright}}''', and it has been accepted and published. '''Congratulations! 🎉''' <div style="margin-top:0.5em;"> The reviewer's comments and decision are available on the [[Talk:"One Battle After Another" wins 6 Oscars including Best Picture|article's talk page]]. </div> <div style="margin-top:0.5em;"> Excellent work, please keep it up! We hope you will continue contributing to Wikinews. If you have some time, consider taking a look at other articles currently [[:Category:Developing|under development]] or [[:Category:Review|awaiting review]]. Your help in improving or reviewing them would be greatly appreciated. </div> <div style="font-size:0.9em;color:#555;"> ---- This is an automated review notification. 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Thank you for your contributions. </span><br/> The article '''[[South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground]]''', to which you contributed, has now been published. '''Congratulations! 🎉''' <div style="margin-top:0.5em;">The reviewer's comments and decision are available on the [[Talk:South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground|article's talk page]].</div> <div style="margin-top:0.5em;">Thank you very much for your collaborative work and support. We hope you will continue contributing to Wikinews. If you have some time, consider taking a look at other articles currently [[:Category:Developing|under development]] or [[:Category:Review|awaiting review]]. Your help in improving or reviewing them would be greatly appreciated.</div> <div style="font-size:0.9em;color:#555;"> ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. </div></div></div> -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:34, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :That was a weird bug: I specified an empty custom comment, as my clipboard was borked. :Here is a copy... :A few remarks: :1. Having checked sources, I needed to make some changes, such as "near the neck" and not "in the neck", and the bombing incident was last year (not two years ago). Please check the edit history carefully and let me know if any of my changes were incorrect. :2. I am trying to push towards more exclusive content or more closer follow ups here. Could you please either think of the questions to ask the South Korean Army, or, write a follow up report when the investigations completed and drills resumed? :3. Barely newsworthy as this is nearly 5 days old but I think this is fine to publish. :4. For npov balance, recommend including responses from other sources, i.e., from someone who is not a part of the South Korean Army. This may be done up to 24 hours after the story is published. :Overall, this looks great, I appreciate the report!!! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:38, 22 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[AC/DC guitarist Stevie Young admitted to hospital in Buenos Aires, spokesperson says]] (March 27) == Sorry, this report went stale. Did he survive? ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:41, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Regarding your move of my article == Hello, Metropolitan901! I think my article is best located at [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts Päivi Räsänen and Juhana Pohjola of crimes against humanity]] rather than [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts Päivi Räsänen and Juhana Pohjola of inciting hatred]] because the actual charge, the actual crime, and the actual conviction all fall under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} that concerns {{w|crimes against humanity}}. Moreover, there is a particular focus from several sources on the fact that Räsänen and Pohjola were convicted under the section of the Criminal Code of Finland that concerns crimes against humanity. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 00:56, 28 March 2026 (UTC) *I would note that one of the cited sources, [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder this article from The Guardian], begins with the sentence, "A Finnish member of parliament has been found guilty by the country’s supreme court of inciting hatred after claiming that homosexuality was a 'developmental disorder', in a conviction that prompted criticism from far-right government ministers." That source doesn't even mention the term "crimes against humanity" at all. Another cited article from [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html The Independent] doesn't mention "crimes against humanity", either. I am also concerned that the use of the term "{{w|crimes against humanity}}" may be considered misleading as to the nature of the charges involved notwithstanding how the term is used in the Finnish Criminal Code which few English Wikinews readers may be familiar with. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:09, 28 March 2026 (UTC) **[[Talk:Supreme Court of Finland convicts Christians of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians in landmark ruling#Headline question|This discussion was continued here]]. --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:39, 28 March 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Supreme Court of Finland makes crimes against humanity convictions in landmark ruling]] (April 6) == Hi, all, I am sending this message to all contributors to the article. News is over a week old but I am publishing. The headline could be better but there is so much controversy about how to put it properly that I am content with the current revision. Overall as a piece of feedback, it is necessary to be more factual and as much as possible insert facts rather than qualitative characterizations. I believe this has substantially improved in the last few days as the article has been revised. Thank you. I have read the talk page and I believe the concerns there have been satisfactorily addressed in the recent edits and in the resulting current revision. Copyright check passed flagging only the quote(s) included in the text. '''I am recommending to add a sentence about expected consequence (fine, jail time) or if it is unknown then, when is this expected to be determined. If you could please make this change within 24 hours, then it could be sighted and be included in the report.''' Thanks a lot. ---- This is an automated review notification. 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You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. </div></div></div> -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 09:00, 6 April 2026 (UTC) 9qhxctgjzfopldqeirubrpwvxjnapuc 3 413109 5005348 5004130 2026-04-06T09:00:50Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Notifying about the review of [[Performance_Space_in_New_York_City_holds_annual_gala_honoring_three_artists]] 5005348 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome-body|realName=|name=Tduk}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 04:51, 13 April 2012 (UTC) == image source == [[Talk:Times_Square_marks_New_Year%27s_Eve_2025_in_New_York_City#Image_credit]] Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:53, 7 January 2025 (UTC) == Sorry for the mixups == Apologies. @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 15:41, 22 September 2025 (UTC) == Re: [[Controversy around Riyadh Comedy Festival]] == Hi Tduk I came back from a long break and saw the page. The way it is written is biased headline and for the controversy claims and quotes, the dates (essential part of [[WN:5W]]) are unspecified. Could the article possibly be refocused on more recent event (the festival itself) and then later in 3rd or 4th paragraph the details of the controversy and claims be provided? I think that could be a good way to make the article more 'fresh'. (I am open to suggestions from others about this.) Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:47, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :And, unfortunately -- this has gone stale -- sorry! I will be deleting it. Hang in there! We appreciate your efforts here.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:27, 30 October 2025 (UTC) ::Are we keeping track of all deleted articles that go stale solely because no one has reviewed them? I hope someone is but if not I am going to start doing it. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 17:48, 30 October 2025 (UTC) :::Gryllida has started a tool. Keep working -- maybe you will become a Reviewer around here! These things happen from time to time -- I know it is annoying to have your work 'lost' in the grinder of time, but hang in there!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:53, 30 October 2025 (UTC) ::::I'm not concerned about my own work. This is a very bad look for the whole site and why I was asked here to try to help. There are a lot of policies that need changing and no one seems to want to discuss how to make this site actually work again. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 21:42, 30 October 2025 (UTC) == New York Music Festival article == First: Great effort! Interesting story! You might try to tighten up your language a bit (terse style). Look at paragraph 2. Much of that is rambly and 'crufty' (needless verbiage). We engage in journalistic writing here. And: It has gone horribly stale. Maybe it can be re-freshed --- not sure.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:40, 15 October 2025 (UTC) :I made some adjustments; is that what you're looking for? :It's a shame it sat for a full month barely being looked at. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 22:50, 15 October 2025 (UTC) :: I started a review today and ran into a few hurdles. I've [[Talk:The_Voluptuous_Horror_of_Karen_Black_performs_as_part_of_Vaginal_Davis%27_exhibit_at_MOMA_PS1#Nearly_publishable|posted a message]] on the article talk page and am posting here too, just to be sure you get the opportunity to respond quickly.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:27, 19 October 2025 (UTC) == Hello == Saw your story about dog parade car issue. Unfortunately I am away and cannot review until around mid November. Please check [[Newsroom]] and [[WN:IRC|live chat]] to help with editing other reports as this may help publish yours sooner. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:10, 20 October 2025 (UTC) == I wanted to say something........ == For a newbie, it appears you are picking up on our 'house style' here fairly well. Please hang in there. Inverted pyramid. The Five W's -- all that 'Journalism school' stuff. Keep at it!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:07, 31 October 2025 (UTC) :...and while I'm at it. Let's draw a line in the sand on your submissions and move forward. I will try to check in more as a Reviewer. See my other comment about a Sandbox -- that might be a smart idea. I don't want to see your OR fail publication. Stay with it!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 11:56, 2 November 2025 (UTC) ::I did indeed stop my submissions once I saw the issues this site is having. I was told to submit things in order to become a reviewer, so that is what I did. I think part of the discussion about original reporting was on the talk page you deleted. Could you restore it somewhere? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:43, 2 November 2025 (UTC) == Warrington Hudlan article == Your words and actions are teetering on the line of being disruptive to this project. I clearly stated: that event happened almost 3 weeks ago. I am deeply familiar with our practices in OR. However: I am a human being and am susceptible to mistakes. I need you to point out for me what/where in that article changes have been made to make THE STORY fresh. 7 days is the outer limit for freshness, when the focal event here happened roughly 18 days prior. Gatwicking may be an option but it won’t be easy.—[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 23:05, 2 November 2025 (UTC) :The first half of this should indeed have been posted on my talk page and does not belong here, as it's a personal accusation. The second part, regarding freshness, should be on the article's talk page and is once again ignoring the policy as I cited it regarding original research. I am not sure how to state it more clearly. I am not arguing that I made changes to make it fresh - I am arguing that it is still fresh according to policy, which states potentially "additional weeks". Please focus on responding to what I said. If you have an issue with what I was told regarding this by @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] maybe you should ask him why he mentioned it. I would like it explained how discussing policy regarding a single article is disruptive. or is this not what you meant? Links would be helpful. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 23:14, 2 November 2025 (UTC) ::You're new here. I get it. This ''is'' your Talk page. BTW: Nothing is "private" here. This is a wiki. It is a digital community. I am going to state, for the final time: The ''focal event'' of that article was a thing that happened about 3 weeks ago. Weaving in some interviews does not wave a magic wand in terms of freshness. I reviewed that article and marked it as stale. You can (potentially) gatwick the material -- that is a possibility, but will take some concentrated effort. I have evaluated that article. The stuff you like to cite (Regarding OR) hardly applies within the Nth degree in this circumstance. I think you have AMAZING potential here. I have said that I will engage more as Reviewer -- and I meant it. I will look at the article again and will conduct a review. For you to re-submit for publication, something will need to be different.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:25, 3 November 2025 (UTC) == Award == This is notably overdue! {|style="border: 8px solid gray; background-color: #fdff7;" |rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[Image:Pencil tip closeup 2.JPG|160px]] |rowspan="2" | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 2; vertical-align: middle; height: .4em;" | '''The Order of the Humble Pencil''' <br> For completing ''5 edits''. |- |style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Stay with it!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:10, 3 November 2025 (UTC) |} == And while I'm at it..... == <br>So is this! <br>[[File:Wikinews WikiNoob.png|110px|left|This [[Wikinews:Contributing Reporter Awards|award]] is presented to new reporters who have started 10 or fewer news articles.]] <br> <br> <br> <br> <br>--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:12, 3 November 2025 (UTC) <br> <br> <br> <br> == Building collapse article == I saw that you'd picked up on something 8 days after the event. That, plus what is in the article, ''plus'' a little something more recent might prove valuable for gatwicking this. I like the photos! This is an important story. What is sitting on the page right now could make 70% of a fairly fresh article. Any other media talk afoot about this event?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:49, 3 November 2025 (UTC) :I see no additional actions so I will take action on the article as it sits soon.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:05, 4 November 2025 (UTC) == I promise you... == I am trying to encourage you. I mean that -- I really do. If you want to report news, I have been very clear: I will help as much as I can in that endeavor. I am serious! A fairly seasoned user (a moment) ago said you are just talking in circles. That is a correct assessment. I fear you have melted your keyboard telling us everything this project ''isn't'' and how its '''broken''' and what doesn't work correctly. You have pot-stirred and criticized and etc. etc. etc. ''ad nauseaum'' ''ad infinitum'' for MANY DAYS NOW. As far as actions/work/time etc., I have seen dark days around here and INCREDIBLE days around here. I've been though it all -- and there is never a shortage of people who will tell us what English WN '''isn't'''. I actually connected with your suggestion about multiple reviewers -- an idea worth talking about indeed. I have made a promise to you and I will do my level best to fulfill that promise. I hope, from this moment forward, your actions and submissions to this project will be made in a spirit of community and positivity.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:24, 3 November 2025 (UTC) :I was explicitly asked here by @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] to help, and told writing articles was the best way to start. Most of them went unpublished and not looked at. This was an experience also held by @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] and many others on the [[WN:Newsworthiness]] discussion thread; I became aware of their issues on the site before I experienced them for myself. This is at the very best a failure of {{w|WP:COMPETENCE}} of the site as a whole. You have, frankly, done nothing to restore my faith - alternating overly harsh words to me and others, and the opposite. All of my actions were coming from a space of positivity <i>for the contributors</i>, and it is a bit concerning that you don't see that. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 21:36, 3 November 2025 (UTC) ::I patently see and give you credit for your positivity -- ''where it exists''. That positivity of yours can, around these parts, be '''notably hard to find'''. By my calculations, you've been here a bit under a year. You've had around 7 articles published. A good thing indeed. So, Gryllida asked you to get involved here -- fantastic. She is quite the recruiter. I appreciate her actions. While I try to write clearly and may be a bit over-terse in my language -- '''I am trying to encourage you''' -- I am. Adults have conversations. They say things. A few of my comments might've been a tad angular, but they were NOT written in anger or a desire to ''tell you off'' so-to-speak. For quite some time, I am going to engage with you in terms of writing articles and publishing articles and functioning as an Administrator -- that's it. I want the project to be good...better...best! I do! But: we need reporters reporting and reviewers reviewing. I don't need to hear (for the 89th time) what this project '''isn't'''.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:47, 3 November 2025 (UTC) ::::Please see my response (I just left a few minutes ago) on my Talk page. I hope it provides clarity--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 00:14, 4 November 2025 (UTC) ::I would say most productive effort mode is "20% copyediting others work in Newsroom, 20% writing new stories, 20% software development or testing and 20% connecting with external grants, education institutions, journalistic NGOs and 20% helping with other publishing formats such as spcial media posts, audio output and posting it to audio publishing platforms". Happy to be corrected though. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:08, 4 November 2025 (UTC) :::In fact, writing requires a larger proportion I think. However, a well-rounded approach is correct. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 23:39, 5 November 2025 (UTC) ::::I think first we need to acquire some "media capabilities," such as having people conduct interviews and publishing relatively complete break news articles, etc(be able). Although we don't know the specific methods, this is one of our development goal. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 23:41, 5 November 2025 (UTC) == And, we certainly missed this... == {|style="border: 8px solid gray; background-color: #fdff7;" |rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[Image:Pencil tip closeup 2.JPG|160px]] |rowspan="2" | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 2; vertical-align: middle; height: .4em;" | '''The Order of the Modest Pencil''' <br> {{{1|{{{for|For getting your first article published!}}}}}} |- |style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | {{{2|{{{message|Great work! Keep it up!}}}}}} |} --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:33, 5 November 2025 (UTC) == A point of curiosity == You'd stated (somewhere around here) about having been involved on this project for decades. Did you have a different user i.d. here? I might've missed some of your older work here.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:44, 10 November 2025 (UTC) :You can see my first Commons contribution in 2009. What about that confused you? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:03, 10 November 2025 (UTC) ::I think you'd said you'd been around English Wikinews for decades. I took that to mean you'd been a regular contributor to this project for decades. Maybe you were a reader here? Or, did you mean the Wiki Media project? That's what confused me.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:08, 10 November 2025 (UTC) :::I did not ever say I was involved with wikinews beyond @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] inviting me earlier this year, which I am sure I have mentioned to you before. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:13, 10 November 2025 (UTC) ::::You said "en.wiki" -- my mistake!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:52, 10 November 2025 (UTC) == Festival article == OK, since I am far outside the parameters of Reviewer on this one-- a few minor remarks you might consider: *There is a LOT going on in that one article, but even more so, a WHOLE LOT going on in that title. It probably could be renamed to focus a little more on the current festival *Speaking of which: I'm real confused on the dates in play here. I thought I'd read that the film festival itself ran Nov. 6th - 9th -- is that right? If so, please check the last sentence in the article. *The cluster of images: Maybe tweak some of the captions -- I think 3 images all share the exact same caption. That is a lot of photos for one event, but they do provide a broad perspective of the events (from what I am reading). <br>I am done with editing on my end. Once you've done whatever you deem fit, feel free to submit for review.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:00, 10 November 2025 (UTC) :The festival is still going on, and the official website says so. I think you got confused by adding a link to an unrelated festival for some reason. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:07, 10 November 2025 (UTC) == Energy! == I'm a pinch over caffeinated this morning! I'm glad your article was published. It is a good thing here. Keep it up!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:40, 17 November 2025 (UTC) == I am truly at a loss for words == I have typed. I have written. I have explained. I have commented. And for what is seemingly the most bizarre of reasons: Something isn't sticking. When Gryllida undeleted that (terribly stale) article, I can only surmise that you then believed you had carte blanche to do as you saw fit. I could be wrong. I don't know how you think. She prompted you to move it to your ''USER SPACE''. I don't know that you've fooled around much with Sandboxes -- but that is the ONLY PLACE this article belongs (for you to maybe do something with down the road). I did see (very late in the article) some mention of some November and December stuff -- that might have a pinch of possibilities, but only just and will require MAJOR gatwicking. I had MANY things to learn when I came here. Ours can be an uphill experience. I have 4000 pounds of patience for anyone who wishes to learn. You have cajoled and complained and misunderstood to no end. Without counting, you've easily referenced English WN as failure easily 3 times in the past 60 days. Actions like pushing that article out do not help that issue. You indicated that Gryllida asked you to come here to be a Reviewer. You are 5000 miles away from achieving that office as it sits now. You pushing that article out for review is beyond the pale. My words absolutely belong on your Talk page, so other Reviewers can see your actions and my response. I've made minor mention in recent weeks of disruptive edits (and I tend to go very soft on such actions). I will say, for the FINAL TIME: An interview is not a magic wand -- it isn't. If an interview is the FOCAL EVENT of an article (that 100% does not apply on this current submission), we can totally go beyond 7 days...for sure. You are not brand new here. You have (and have had) more than ample time to engage with fresh, meaningful submissions. I care about this project and I profoundly believe you can improve as a reporter -- submissions like this do not move the needle in that regard.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:59, 21 November 2025 (UTC) :I was very confused when I saw this message on my talk page, since you didn’t actually say what you were talking about. Now I see you’re referring to the article on Yoshiko Chuma. Let’s see what happened exactly. :* On Oct 30, you deleted the page with no reason supplied.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=delete&user=&page=Dancer+Yoshiko+Chuma+performs+at+the+Children%E2%80%99s+Magical+Garden+in+New+York+City&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist] :* When I asked why it was deleted, you said it had been marked as abandoned. [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bddpaux&diff=prev&oldid=4894695]. We can now see from the history that this was false.[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Tduk/Dancer_Yoshiko_Chuma_performs_at_the_Children%E2%80%99s_Magical_Garden_in_New_York_City&diff=prev&oldid=4930334] :* We can also see that I was still actively editing the article - Oct 27, three days before you deleted it. When you deleted it, it was still in the ‘review’ state. [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Tduk/Dancer_Yoshiko_Chuma_performs_at_the_Children%E2%80%99s_Magical_Garden_in_New_York_City&action=history] :* I then asked why you didn’t move this article to a draft or user space, and you acted like you did not understand [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bddpaux&diff=next&oldid=4894700], so I asked Gryllida off-wiki if I was mistaken. :* On Nov 11, Gryllida asked me to post on the admin alerts asking that it ‘’’be restored to a sandbox’’’, and I did exactly that. [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Admin_action_alerts&diff=prev&oldid=4926686] :* On Nov 21, it was finally undeleted - but NOT moved to sandbox. It still had the “review” state it had when you deleted it. [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Tduk/Dancer_Yoshiko_Chuma_performs_at_the_Children%E2%80%99s_Magical_Garden_in_New_York_City&diff=prev&oldid=4930334] :* Later that day, it looks like you saw it was tagged for “review” and did not remember the series of events that led to this, nor did you investigate it yourself, and instead appear to have jumped to some heated conclusions, including that I had resubmitted it (despite the history making it clear that I did not), resulting in this confused and accusatory message on my talk page. I, and others, have said that when you take this tone, it makes people uncomfortable, yet you continue to do it; others have even asked you to stop, but you refused.[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bddpaux&diff=prev&oldid=4895679] :* Strangely, on your comment on the talk page, you comment that the festival is over as far as you know, but this article is not about a festival. [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tduk/Dancer_Yoshiko_Chuma_performs_at_the_Children%E2%80%99s_Magical_Garden_in_New_York_City&diff=prev&oldid=4930333] My published article, [[2025 Queens World Film Festival features filmmakers breakfast and ceremony honoring Warrington Hudlin]], was about a festival, but did not end on the date you suggested - although you did also add an incorrect date to that article.[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=2025_Queens_World_Film_Festival_features_filmmakers_breakfast_and_ceremony_honoring_Warrington_Hudlin&diff=next&oldid=4925395] :* The next day, Michael.C.Wright did the correct thing and moved it to userspace. [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Admin_action_alerts&curid=7100&diff=4930824&oldid=4930483] :I’m at a loss for how to continue after this, but I feel this does need to be out there. I'd like to thank @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] for helping me recover my writing and @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] for moving it to user space. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:54, 22 November 2025 (UTC) :::You are 100% correct and I was 100% wrong. If it serves as a modicum of some defense, the little voice said, "Maybe you should double check the timeline." I ignored that voice. I extend my sincere apologies for that action.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:57, 22 November 2025 (UTC) ::::For an apology to be meaningful, it should be both complete and it should result in a change of behavior. ::::* You have not spoken about why you originally deleted the article, back when it was arguably fresh, and I was considering gatwicking it (as I did with another article). ::::* You have not spoken about why you misled me about the reason you deleted the article. ::::* You have not spoken about how inappropriate the tone of your text was, even if your assumptions were correct. This goes beyond this single issue and others besides me have expressed conerns to you over it. ::::* You have actually apologized for heated language in the past, on my talk page, to me [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tduk&diff=prev&oldid=4928411], and attributed it to something questionable in my eyes. This apology immediately proceeded this accusation that you made on my talk page. ::::Are you only apologizing for the fact that you didn’t do due diligence before making accusations? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:12, 22 November 2025 (UTC) :For being the kind of person capable of creating a bullet list of that nature -- I do hereby retract 5% of my apology and that is the last syllable you will hear from me on the topic.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:40, 22 November 2025 (UTC) ::How are you an admin here if you behave like this? You attempted to admonish a reporter who was in the right, and the above timeline shows the lack of care in managing articles. [[User:SWinxy|SWinxy]] ([[User talk:SWinxy|talk]]) 22:27, 22 November 2025 (UTC) :::Stop the accusing everyone @[[User:SWinxy|SWinxy]], @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]], @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:53, 22 November 2025 (UTC) :::Plus @[[User:SWinxy|SWinxy]], your User page for Wikinews is quite bizarre AAAAAAA! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:55, 22 November 2025 (UTC) ::::AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 05:40, 23 November 2025 (UTC) :::::Hi @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] and @[[User:SWinxy|SWinxy]], [[File:Smiley.svg|18px]] :::::* I understand that was a human error of the 'I did not see something in that timeline, and made my decision based on incomplete information' kind :::::* and as the apology was provided, it means that there will be effort to be more careful in the future. :::::* You may (can't say where, but if requested, I can dig for it) find a part of policy here that says the key focus should be on content. Distracting to talk page beyond a bare minimum is considered a fatal flaw. :::::Hope this helps at least partially as a clarification. :::::Best regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:30, 23 November 2025 (UTC) == A Barnstar! == [[File:Barnstar-camera.png|framed|left|]] ''"Camera Barnstar awarded for extraordinary or tireless original reporting"'', this is perfect for you. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 10:41, 27 November 2025 (UTC) == Hello == Hi, could you please install [[User:Asked42/Taglet]] now to help triage new pages by marking them with event dates? this would greatly speed up page review, thanks! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:39, 10 December 2025 (UTC) == Your article submission for review (December 10) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Robert Dick and Mark Dresser re-unite at the Fridman Gallery|author=Tduk|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:41, 10 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Bruce Gallanter interviews Elliott Sharp, Joe Fonda at Downtown Music Gallery event]] (January 22) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Bruce Gallanter interviews Elliott Sharp, Joe Fonda at Downtown Music Gallery event|author=Tduk|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:31, 22 January 2026 (UTC) :Thank you for getting it out there! [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 17:48, 22 January 2026 (UTC) :: Thank you for yet another original article.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:13, 22 January 2026 (UTC) :::I just realized I had intended to include [[File:Dmg0102 26.jpg|thumb]] which shows Fonda demonstrating what he did with a book in his early days of bass playing. Can we still get this added? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 22:15, 22 January 2026 (UTC) :::: yep. Go ahead. I should have time today to sight (approve) the changes.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:21, 22 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Poets gather for reading at Ray's Pizza in New York City]] (February 12) == Sending this message to all users who edited the page ... Published. Krinkle says copyright of photos is ok. Suggest to add how long it took, one hour, two hours, or whatever. Suggest to add utc time in parentheses. Minor changes. Can be done in 24hr or less from now. A bit old. Better to write about it on the day, not a week after. OR kind of makes an exception. But this should be considered in future, to write news straight on the day. Thank you! -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:14, 12 February 2026 (UTC) == streak proposal == Hi, I am proposing to setup [[:w:streak]] competition goals over a 12 week period: for example, * "write one story each two weeks, and [[:wikt:babysit|babysit]] it until it is published" - for as many consecutive fortnights as possible A role would have to be selected at start of the activity: this could be either ''authoring'' a completely new article or this could be taking over someone else's article and doing focused ''editing'' on it with active collaboration with others until it is published. It is like a [[:wikt:day shift|day shift]] as you are expected to remain available '[[:wikt:on call|on call]]' for 2-3 days after an event that is being subject of a report, to address concerns from another user or reviewer. The aim of this is to build a habit of participation with [[:wikt:outburst|outburst]]s of eyeballing the page to collaborate with others -- but not every day, to have breaks and reduce [[:wikt:burnout|burnout]]. Could you please check out at '''[[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Streak_themed_competition_proposal|this section]]''' and let me know what you think? Parameters are subject to discussion e.g. * 'once every two weeks' or 'once a week' or 'once a month' * should this be same for all or each person decides for themselves * how long total comp running for, 12 weeks or 24 weeks or some other time * some other ideas how to modify this i would appreciate if you could reply by end of this week, it would be helpful thanks a lot [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:15, 22 February 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Musical performance presented by Striped Light in Long Island City, New York showcases four performers]] (February 28) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Musical performance presented by Striped Light in Long Island City, New York showcases four performers|author=Tduk|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:57, 28 February 2026 (UTC) :Looks good - although I had a question about this change [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Musical_performance_presented_by_Striped_Light_in_Long_Island_City,_New_York_showcases_four_performers&diff=prev&oldid=4990598]. I did not put my name in there and have no objection to it being removed, but you brought up the topic of accredited reporters in your edit description. As far as I know I applied to be accredited a month ago and it has more or less been sitting there gathering dust - did I miss part of the procedure needed? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 21:50, 3 March 2026 (UTC) == Happy World Poetry Day == [[File:Barnstar of High Culture.png|100px]] ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 05:43, 21 March 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Musique Libre Femmes plays for Women's History Month at Tompkins Square Library in New York City]] (March 24) == I did minor edits and strongly recommend writing the report immediately after the event, not five days after. The month that is being celebrated, is already almost over now... I wanted to suggest video or audio uploads from such events if organisers and performers allow this. Thank you so much for the report. Keep up the great work. ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:16, 24 March 2026 (UTC) == Gala article == Sorry that one slipped past us! Work has been slamming me lately.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:56, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :I will just point out to @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] that the story in question, [[Performance Space in New York City holds annual gala honoring three artists]] was 16 days old when they marked it stale[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Performance_Space_in_New_York_City_holds_annual_gala_honoring_three_artists&diff=prev&oldid=5002820], yet their own story [[Wikinews interviews magician and illusion builder Bruce Chadwick for National Magic Week]] was 20 days old when published. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:12, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::This user marked a few of my articles as stale as well, when they were only 4-5 days old. :( [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:46, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] you still haven't commented on why your story wasn't stale but mine was (in your eyes), let alone this other matter. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:50, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ::::I'm still waiting on a reply to [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Bddpaux#The_Susie_Wiles_story_was_not_stale this question] as well. I reckon my stuff was not stale when you declined to review them. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:03, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :::I love the fact that this project is on its way to the gas chamber, and you two have to quack about this. ''THIS'' is the last 2 years of this project. This ---- right ----- here. The truth? I made a mistake -- that's the truth -- really. Both of you have my unfettered apologies. Unequivocal. Unmitigated. ''Without reservation.'' Absolutely. That's it. Adios, to one and all! In the words of Dean Martin: Keeps those cards and letters coming! Wait: did that article get published? Gee, I sure I hope it did.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 01:56, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::::I'm just bitter about the death of democracy and free information, that's all. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:03, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::::I accept your apology. No hard feelings. It is what it is. You are correct -- We DID do some good stuff around here. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:05, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::::You did not make a mistake. You made several mistakes, and when asked about them, you refused to reply until just now; are we to believe that was also "mistakes"? Further, I don't really think your tone is appropriate towards myself or towards @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], nor in fact in the past to @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], especially coming from an administrator. Once again I ask you to reflect on your place in what's going on and what meaning your past actions have had on this site and its contributors. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 02:07, 2 April 2026 (UTC) == Hi. == I'm sorry there was nothing we could do to save the project. It sounds like they made up their mind to wipe us out before they even gave us a chance to submit our final pleas. Whatever. I'm not going to try to challenge the project's policies at this point -- why bother? I guess I just don't understand the way things are done here. I guess we're entering into the dark ages. No more free news for the ages. The truth will fade, democracy will die... [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:49, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :Don’t give up on the fact that this decision is completely baseless, don’t abandon negotiation,let's just stick it out to the end since it’s almost over anyway. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 10:31, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] we're all aware that as things were on this project, it wasn't all that viable. Have you read {{w|Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2013-07-10/Op-ed}} ? Particularly, "''And that's the fundamental problem of Wikinews: it's not a good newssite, regularly missing out important stories that affect large parts of the world, ... For comparison, have a look at Portal:Current events, a fairly obscure little Wikipedia-based side-project, which actually does a really good job at noting current events.''". We all have seen from the inside why this is true, and that there was resistance to changing it. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:56, 2 April 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Performance Space in New York City holds annual gala honoring three artists]] (April 6) == <div style="border:2px solid #E8A938;background:linear-gradient(135deg,#FFF9E6 0%,#FEF8F0 100%);padding:1em 1.5em;color:#1a1a1a;margin:1.5em;border-radius:4px;box-shadow:0 2px 8px rgba(232,169,56,0.15);"> [[File:Symbol_question.svg|50px|left|link=]] <div style="margin-left:64px;"> <span style="font-size:1.1em;font-weight:bold;color:#8B5A00;"> Hi Tduk! Thank you for your submission! </span><br/> Your article '''[[Performance Space in New York City holds annual gala honoring three artists]]''' has been reviewed by '''{{User|Michael.C.Wright}}'''. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons for the decision are explained in detail on the [[Talk:Performance Space in New York City holds annual gala honoring three artists|article's talk page]]. <div style="margin-top:0.5em;"> You are encouraged to address the issues noted and resubmit the article once the necessary improvements have been made. Please keep in mind that news loses freshness quickly, so making updates in a timely manner will increase the chances of successful publication. </div> <div style="margin-top:0.5em;"> If you need help, feel free to ask at the [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance|Water Cooler assistance]], or on the [[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|reviewer's talk page]]. </div> <div style="font-size:0.9em;color:#555;"> ---- This is an automated review notification. 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I will respond when I can.}} {{box|It is approximately '''{{#time:g:i A,|{{CURRENTHOUR}}:{{CURRENTMINUTE}} {{#expr: {{#ifexpr: {{#expr: ({{CURRENTMONTH}} > {{{startmonth|3}}} {{#ifexpr: {{#expr: {{{startmonth|3}}} > {{{endmonth|11}}}}}| or | and }} {{CURRENTMONTH}} < {{{endmonth|11}}}) or ({{CURRENTMONTH}} = {{{startmonth|3}}} and {{CURRENTDAY}} >= {{{startday|10}}}) or ({{CURRENTMONTH}} = {{{endmonth|11}}} and {{CURRENTDAY}} < {{{endday|3}}})}} | {{{dst|-7}}} | {{{st|-8}}}}}*60}} minutes}} {{#ifexpr: {{#expr: ({{CURRENTMONTH}} > {{{startmonth|3}}} {{#ifexpr: {{#expr: {{{startmonth|3}}} > {{{endmonth|11}}}}}| or | and }} {{CURRENTMONTH}} < {{{endmonth|11}}}) or ({{CURRENTMONTH}} = {{{startmonth|3}}} and {{CURRENTDAY}} >= {{{startday|10}}}) or ({{CURRENTMONTH}} = {{{endmonth|11}}} and {{CURRENTDAY}} < {{{endday|3}}})}} | PDT | PST }}''' where this user is. {{purge|Refresh}} {{User:Michael.C.Wright/wikihours}} Archives: [[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright/Archive_1|1]], [[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright/Archive_2|2]]}} <BR><inputbox> bgcolor=transparent type=fulltext prefix=User_talk:Michael.C.Wright/ break=yes width=50 searchbuttonlabel=Search current discussions and archives </inputbox> {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = User talk:Michael.C.Wright/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(14d) |counter = 2 |maxarchivesize = 192K |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 0 |archiveheader = {{talkarchivenav}} }} == Sorry to bother you but == when wiki news finally closes could you please tell me where to write articles next project? Thanks I still want to contribute elsewhere. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 07:45, 2 April 2026 (UTC) : If there is a next project, I'm sure it will be made known in the Water cooler. It looks like there are a couple of options brewing...[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 07:52, 2 April 2026 (UTC) czn3hrge51l3mnto38l08t04cebejms 3 2370384 5005056 3745056 2026-04-05T12:14:36Z Ternarius 359942 Ternarius moved page [[User talk:MrZaimon1122]] to [[User talk:Zaifox]]: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/MrZaimon1122|MrZaimon1122]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/Zaifox|Zaifox]]" 3745056 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=MrZaimon1122}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 19:38, 15 August 2015 (UTC) rvmbnxowywu6jneo8zdbkndp9q7ye18 3 2516616 5005153 3907124 2026-04-05T19:28:06Z Mfield 89407 Mfield moved page [[User talk:Verumregium]] to [[User talk:B8N7e0]]: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/Verumregium|Verumregium]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/B8N7e0|B8N7e0]]" 3907124 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Verumregium}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 20:23, 18 October 2015 (UTC) c5l4ug4hth4qk8z4ihj0mjdgj4p26g2 3 2840066 5005182 5003225 2026-04-05T22:52:29Z BigKrow 2871522 /* Hi */ new section 5005182 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Justthefacts9}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 11:52, 8 April 2018 (UTC) == Welcome!!! == {{welcome}} @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:08, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Wikinews-Miraheze == Hi im trying to revive Wikinews here... https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/78142 Thanks. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Hi == i have a news fandom you might like? @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:52, 5 April 2026 (UTC) buvyvvh8ne7pbllbzw47rtzmnybyp27 5005243 5005182 2026-04-06T01:33:20Z Gryllida 160590 Notifying about the review of [[Supreme_Court_of_Finland_makes_crimes_against_humanity_convictions_in_landmark_ruling]] 5005243 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Justthefacts9}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 11:52, 8 April 2018 (UTC) == Welcome!!! == {{welcome}} @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:08, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Wikinews-Miraheze == Hi im trying to revive Wikinews here... https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/78142 Thanks. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Hi == i have a news fandom you might like? @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:52, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Supreme Court of Finland makes crimes against humanity convictions in landmark ruling]] (April 6) == Hi, all, I am sending this message to all contributors to the article. News is over a week old but I am publishing. The headline could be better but there is so much controversy about how to put it properly that I am content with the current revision. Overall as a piece of feedback, it is necessary to be more factual and as much as possible insert facts rather than qualitative characterizations. I believe this has substantially improved in the last few days as the article has been revised. Thank you. I have read the talk page and I believe the concerns there have been satisfactorily addressed in the recent edits and in the resulting current revision. Copyright check passed flagging only the quote(s) included in the text. '''I am recommending to add a sentence about expected consequence (fine, jail time) or if it is unknown then, when is this expected to be determined. If you could please make this change within 24 hours, then it could be sighted and be included in the report.''' Thanks a lot. ---- This is an automated review notification. 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[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:09, 9 December 2023 (UTC) {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = User talk:BigKrow/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(30d) |counter = 1 |maxarchivesize = 192K |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 0 |archiveheader = {{talkarchivenav}} }} == Something else I noticed == So that new user around here, I don't want to tag or mention them, but... I noticed their username is a misspelling of an [http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:Anotherwikipedian already-existing Wikipedia username], not unlike what Me Da Wikipedian did with the imposter account that got them banned. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:49, 11 March 2026 (UTC) :ive given up hope with them lol Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 19:39, 11 March 2026 (UTC) ::{{Reply to|BigKrow|Lofi Gurl}} I&CloseCurlyQuote;m still here you know&period; If either of you have another issue with me&comma; you can tell it to me on my talk page&period; Also&comma; I have no relations to [[:w:User:Anotherwikipedian|User:Anotherwikipedian]]&comma; I chose the misspelling only because the actual username was taken&period; ::[[User:Anohthterwikipedian|Anohthterwikipedian]] ([[User talk:Anohthterwikipedian|talk]]) 19:44, 12 March 2026 (UTC) == Published! == I reviewed and published [[Former Major League Baseball pitcher Julio Teherán retires]]! Thanks for the submission, review process was really smooth honestly. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:42, 11 March 2026 (UTC) :thanks so much! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 01:08, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :see the tools are working good for you congratulations @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 01:11, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :i know we have been through a lot over my time and yours here on wikinews so I would like to say I'm happy your doing a great job as reviewer never get yourself down my friend! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 01:15, 12 March 2026 (UTC) ::Appreciate it! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:23, 12 March 2026 (UTC) == Got any more sports stories? == I'll try to review of you do [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:12, 12 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Woman charged with attempted homicide after allegedly firing shots at Barbadian pop singer Rihanna's house]] (March 13) == Hi all... I would lile to request a major rewrite: 1) LA Times is paywalled. Please replace, and ensure new content is fully verifiable; then re-submit for review. Please let me know if this is in error, or any questions or request assistance. Thanks! ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:47, 12 March 2026 (UTC) == [[A young boy got lost while he was going to school]] == I don't understand what happened with this article. First you tagged it as gibberish, then in [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=A_young_boy_got_lost_while_he_was_going_to_school&diff=next&oldid=5000700 this edit] you added the text of a story, but it doesn't look anything like a news article. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 02:03, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :Sorry. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-18292-31|&#126;2026-18292-31]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-18292-31|talk]]) 02:10, 24 March 2026 (UTC) ::oops Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 02:11, 24 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[7-ton meteor traverses sky over Ohio and several other US states]] (March 27) == Sorry, this report went stale. ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:38, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Thank you for your welcome and your opinion on my first article == Hello, BigKrow! Thank you for [[User talk:Justthefacts#c-BigKrow-20260327230800-Welcome!!!|your warm welcome for me to Wikinews]]! What do you think about [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts Päivi Räsänen and Juhana Pohjola of crimes against humanity|my first article on Wikinews]]? Do you think it is ready for review and publication? [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 00:49, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :It looks good! @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:56, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thank you! I just submitted it for review! Will you review it? [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 01:07, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :::I don't review articles here, sorry but just be patient hopefully it will get published soon! Keep up the good work! @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 01:14, 28 March 2026 (UTC) == I'm sorry for everything == Yo. I probably could have taken my user interactions more seriously during my time contributing to this project. For that I apologize. I know I've been a dick at various times on here and I'm sorry for that too. It looks like this is it -- I'm looking at Recent Changes and I'm seeing all sorts of "wind-down" activities, and I'm kinda choking up. It's really over. But, it's going to be okay. We wrote dozens and dozens of articles for this project during its waning years and for that I think we should be extremely proud. I'm not sure what my online life holds in store for me in the future, probably Wikipedia and YouTube and maybe Twitch again. Hope I'll see you around on other WMF projects! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:26, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Supreme Court of Finland makes crimes against humanity convictions in landmark ruling]] (April 6) == Hi, all, I am sending this message to all contributors to the article. News is over a week old but I am publishing. The headline could be better but there is so much controversy about how to put it properly that I am content with the current revision. Overall as a piece of feedback, it is necessary to be more factual and as much as possible insert facts rather than qualitative characterizations. I believe this has substantially improved in the last few days as the article has been revised. Thank you. I have read the talk page and I believe the concerns there have been satisfactorily addressed in the recent edits and in the resulting current revision. Copyright check passed flagging only the quote(s) included in the text. '''I am recommending to add a sentence about expected consequence (fine, jail time) or if it is unknown then, when is this expected to be determined. If you could please make this change within 24 hours, then it could be sighted and be included in the report.''' Thanks a lot. ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:33, 6 April 2026 (UTC) nd6s9vt5aefdzbhy977gl6ap7gjzf3e 3 3004791 5005088 5004911 2026-04-05T15:04:09Z Lofi Gurl 2885970 /* Negativity */ correct typo 5005088 wikitext text/x-wiki {{retired}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 00:40, 6 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Court ruling upholds TikTok ban unless ByteDance sells stake]] == Hi, @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] published the story. Congratulations. Please review the article history and talk page for feedback from the reviewer. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Suspect in shooting death of UnitedHealthcare CEO fled New York City by bus, police say]] == Hi, I published the story. Congratulations. 🎉 Please review the article history and talk page for feedback. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:33, 7 December 2024 (UTC) :thanks!! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:35, 7 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Manslaughter charges against Daniel Perry dismissed following jury deadlock]] == Published. :-) Please read notes on the talk page. Have a great day. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:51, 7 December 2024 (UTC) == Re: cathedral re-opening == Hello, Published. :-) Please check notes on the article talk page. A copy is included below for your reference: ---- There are important, but not critically essential details missing, for example: * time of day in local time and UTC * that they planned to do speech outdoors but did it indoors because of a storm * (is it needed to write '2024' in first paragraph as we already have publish date further up the page) I could not verify one part: * Sunday 'morning' mass (source 1 says Sunday, source 2 does not say, or something) -- replaced 'Sunday morning' with 'Sunday' The above items can be addressed within 24 hours after publication. The image credit was missing and I added it as a minor edit as a part of the review process. It is required due to the licence requirements. I recommend the author to also become involved in editing others' submissions -- those of them that are newsworthy, at least -- in the [[Newsroom]], if desired. This may help improve their quality and their chances of publication, and provide experience with proofreading and fact checking in addition to writing and authoring efforts. Thank you and keep up the great work. ---- Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:59, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == Pace == Hi Lofi Gurl, there are not many reviewers available, and I think the current queue may take a couple days to be processed. (I am mostly outdoors and away on weekend.) My apologies, and thank you for reading and writing entertaining and specific stories. :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:06, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :No problem, take your time and enjoy your weekend! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:08, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == Revisit articles in review queue == While waiting for articles I've authored to be reviewed, I often revisit them as long as they aren't under review and 'tighten' them up by making sure they conform to the style guide, that facts are correct, I've chosen good images with useful descriptions (and attributed every image), etc. I see that there are style issues in some of your articles currently awaiting review. Please see what you can do to help make the review of these articles easier/quicker. Consider using {{tl|verify}} to point to exactly what source is used for all information so reviewers who verify information can find it easier. This helps tremendously. Thanks. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 15:53, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :Are you able to specify the style issues present in the article as a reviewer, or is it my job to figure that out as the reporter? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:59, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :I haven't checked the article talk pages yet so sorry if this ends up being a pointless question [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:00, 8 December 2024 (UTC) ::It is the author's responsibility to know our policies and guidelilnes, to include the [[WN:Style|style guide]]. Reviewers can and often do correct style issues before publishing but they are not required to. It takes more of a reviewers time to correct for style along with everything else they must check before publishing. See [[Wikinews:Reviewing articles]] to understand all the work that goes into reviewing an article. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 14:24, 9 December 2024 (UTC) == Great job == You are doing a great job here thank you. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:25, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :Thank you, friend! :[[File:Red Wine Toast GIF Animation.gif]] [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == I have a question! == {{tl|helpme}} Say an articles goes stale, or fails review for whatever reason. Am I allowed to splice old material and sources from "rejected" articles and use them in future articles, so long as the subject of the article stays fresh, and new developments keep coming in? Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:36, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :Yes, that's fine. They are released under the creative commons licence indicated in the footer, and you can reuse them at any news articles here or any other place where the licence of content is compatible. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:54, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Impeachment of South Korean president Yoon Suk Yeol fails]] == Hi Lofi Gurl :-) Could you please [[WN:Attribution|attribute]] the "''Political unrest and nationwide protests were expected in response to the axing of the impeachment.''" sentence? Who said this? This would help the sentence to not read as a speculation made on behalf of ''Wikinews''. Let me know if you have any questions, I am happy to help. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:53, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :From the Associated Press article: :{{quote|The vote’s defeat is likely to fuel nationwide protests and escalate political turmoil, and opposition parties could introduce a new impeachment motion when parliament reconvenes next Wednesday.}} [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:56, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :This is amazing: :* [[South Korean Constitutional Court upholds impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol]] :Thank you so much for writing about this topic. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:15, 10 April 2025 (UTC) ::Pretty cool we have four articles of coverage spanning the scandal from start to finish! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:02, 11 April 2025 (UTC) == Wizard of oz slippers story == Hi Lofi Gurl * Missing currency, both in first paragraph and in headline? * Missing specified location where the auction took place. Hope you can assist. Let me know if any questions. Thank you. :-) Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:09, 9 December 2024 (UTC) :I've found the location and left a note about it at the article talk page. I cannot add it and remain available to review. Could you please check and make the edit? Thank you!!! Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:13, 9 December 2024 (UTC) ::I went to sleep before seeing all these. I'm so sorry! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:20, 9 December 2024 (UTC) :::Hi [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] :-) :::What is your time zone? :::Do you receive notifications in right top corner of the page while you are logged in? :::Please note on talk page of the slippers story there is a new message "''@Michael.C.Wright - You can add it and I can review? Please confirm within the next hour, or @Lofi Gurl please add it within next hour. Failing that, I'll add it myself and will require another reviewer to publish. Thanks.''" :::Have a great day. :::Thanks, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:25, 9 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Yeah, and I need to get better at clearing my inbox, apparently. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:44, 9 December 2024 (UTC) :::::I'm eastern standard time I think. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:38, 10 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Left you a '''[[Talk:Slippers_worn_by_American_actress_Judy_Garland_in_1939_film_The_Wizard_of_Oz_break_sales_record,_sold_for_US$28_million_at_auction#Why_the_slippers_were_so_expensive|new message]]''' Hope it helps :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:25, 10 December 2024 (UTC) :::::[[Slippers worn by American actress Judy Garland in 1939 film The Wizard of Oz break sales record, sold for US$28 million at auction]] now published, congratulations. :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:14, 10 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::thank you :) [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:21, 10 December 2024 (UTC) == Coffee::Who == Hi Lofi Gurl, I've left you a new message '''[[Talk:Coffee_prices_surge_to_record_highs_due_to_droughts_in_Brazil,_Vietnam#Who|here]]'''. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:31, 11 December 2024 (UTC) :added a new message now again [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:10, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == Chess article == Please see the talk page at that article.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:44, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == damascus story == i made a few edits. in one sentence needs clarification, i marked it in bold. please check? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:03, 13 December 2024 (UTC) :Hi!! To answer the quesion/comment/footnote you left in the article -- I found a mention of "Saydnaya prison complex" in the BBC source but they don't specify if that was the prison Timmerman escaped from. It was just mentioned that {{w|the White Helmets}} were storming looking for survivors. Hope this helps! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:43, 13 December 2024 (UTC) :Also, I think he left prison the same day the city fell on Monday, which was mentioned in the second paragraph. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:49, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == minor edit & thanks == hi, i have rejected [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Indian_chess_grandmaster_Gukesh_Dommaraju,_18,_becomes_youngest_world_chess_champion_of_all_time&diff=4809824&oldid=prev&unhide=1 this edit] as this wikilink was already included in a previous paragraph. please let me know if i am incorrect! thanks for the other edits to the story. they have made it so much nicer and are timely. i appreciate it and approved the other edits. have a great day, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:45, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :oops didn't see the other link, thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 08:47, 14 December 2024 (UTC) == Edits after publication == Please note that our [[WN:Archive]] conventions generally prevent edits to articles 24 hours after publication. Articles are meant to be a snapshot in time. Edits within the 24 hours after publication should be limited to only correcting any errors not caught in the review process. It is better to have an article fully button-down and ready for publication before requesting review. You are more than welcome, even encouraged to help improve other articles. But please focus that energy on articles in the developing queue and review queue unless the article is actively ''under'' review. That way we catch more errors before review and definitely before publication. Thanks again for joining and contributing! I can't remember the last time I saw ten articles in the review queue. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 16:46, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :[[image:Symbol thumbs up green.png]] [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC) == Requested article == hey, {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} https://abc3340.com/news/local/alabama-talladega-county-sheriffs-office I added this story to requested articles but im not up to starting the article myself... If you can do anything for this would be helpful? Thanks! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :Hi, I'm happy to start articles you bring to me, I'm just not sure this story meets the site's notability guidelines.. I'd have to double check though. Thank you though [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:02, 14 December 2024 (UTC) ::It does and is '''developing''', not much data so far I suppose.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC) ::We also need a second source. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :::we'll play it by ear. This South Korea story is taking way longer than I thought [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:20, 14 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Let's please focus on it being published! My request can always wait, thanks. {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:22, 14 December 2024 (UTC) == please vote == Hi Lofi Gurl :-) '''[[Wikinews:Requests_for_permissions|This page]]''' has a handful of requests open. Could you please cast a vote and/or add a comment, ideally for each of them, at your earliest convenience? Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:19, 15 December 2024 (UTC) == hi here is a news tip about malware == https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ultralytics-ai-model-hijacked-to-infect-thousands-with-cryptominer/ -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:04, 16 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Hundreds of North Korean troops killed fighting Ukrainian forces in Russia]] == Hi. Please see my not-ready review comments on the talk page. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 22:19, 19 December 2024 (UTC) == Why? == Are you making more work for editors? Im not angry just confused.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:50, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :I don't know what you're talking about? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:58, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::You keep abandoning articles mostly you created, why? {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:00, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :What specifically do you mean "making more work for editors"? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:59, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::more work to clean up after you... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:01, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::I'd just delete them if I was able to. Why are you mad? I'm abandoning the articles. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:02, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::not mad, just confused.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::You were acting fine before, what happened? {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::Stop "RIPing" because it's seen as disruptive behavior, sorry but it seems like it. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::That's fine I'm done writing here anyway. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::::Suit yourself..... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::::Then what was your point? Wasting peoples' time? Sad sorry. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::I'm genuinely confused now. What do you mean "wasting peoples time"? What are you talking about? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:08, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::::::The project is to work together with one another not to abandon because theres not much activity right now. I won't argue with you anymore.. Sorry... {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:14, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::::::: '''I didn't do anything wrong.''' [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:16, 20 December 2024 (UTC) == En.wn == Hi. Thanks for, well, contributing here, I guess. So really, if you want to write fast and write prolifically, maybe Wikipedia is a better fit for you than en.wn in its present state. The project couldn't handle a mass influx of even people highly skilled at writing for it (overwhelms the review process, reporters get demoralized). I'm tempted to say that you overestimated the project and what you could do, but that sounds wrong. I don't know why I'm saying all this. You probably already know it. Of what's left, we are overwhelmingly nice people, for what it's worth, and care deeply about en.wn. Just don't, I guess, overinvest yourself in it. One of our colleagues here likes to say "don't get married to your article", so perhaps likewise with the concept and future of the project. Then again, a late editor literally saw himself as embarking on a mission to save human civilization from intellectual ruin and mundanity by making something great out of this project. But he was executing a long term plan, that did transform the project. I don't know what this sounds like. I hope it doesn't sound condescending. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 06:27, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :Just to let both of you know I wasn't trying to attack {{ping|Lofi Gurl}}. {{Ping|Heavy Water}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 13:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :Thanks for taking the time to write this (it didn't come off as condescending). I'll keep it in mind while contributing to the project in the future. Sorry for taking a few days to reply. Been trying to limit internet time. Have a good rest of your weekend! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 05:31, 22 December 2024 (UTC) == Lofi Gurl == I was really being a dink to you, apologies. Feel free to continue to write articles here! {{Ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC) :Consider it forgiven. It happens. Onward! [[file:FPClogogif.gif]] [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC) ::Thank you for creating new news articles you go as fast as you please {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:01, 22 December 2024 (UTC) :::I'm trying to slow down and try to average maybe three per week. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Please write as much as you like and thanks {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:05, 22 December 2024 (UTC) == Welcome back == [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:45, 30 January 2025 (UTC) :Good to be back. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:47, 30 January 2025 (UTC) ::😊 [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:47, 30 January 2025 (UTC) ::Welcome back Lofi Gurl [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:58, 12 February 2025 (UTC) :::thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 08:16, 12 February 2025 (UTC) == Crash Philadelphia story == Hi I copyedited some misspelled words for the article. Hope your well, thanks. {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:51, 2 February 2025 (UTC) :thanks. I'm on my mom's laptop at the moment and she has her shit set up weird, and I can't spellcheck very easily at all right now. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:57, 2 February 2025 (UTC) ::It's ok, do your best. {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:14, 2 February 2025 (UTC) == Paywalled == Can't you work around it? {{Ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:10, 12 March 2025 (UTC) :It's gonna be easier to rewrite the entire article at this point, with like 2-3 sources. The project just kept getting bigger and bigger and I shot myself in the foot (or gave my foot the firing squad, if you will). Using this article's content for Wikipedia. Going to focus on my WashingtonDC/suicide/cop article I have started here. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:19, 12 March 2025 (UTC) == Re: revitalising Wikinews == Hi, I'm reaching out to you as you indicated support for revitalising Wikinews. Here are a few ways to help out, in no particular order: # write new articles by [[WN:SG|style guide]] and [[WN:CG|content guide]] # find news which happened today and share it on [[WN:IRC|live chat]] or [[WN:REQ|a news tip page]] # read drafts in [[Newsroom]], especially those submitted for review, and edit them to make them more comprehensive or more current # read drafts in [[Newsroom]], especially those that failed review recently, and address reviewer's comments quickly and re-submit for review # chat with new authors (of articles in Newsroom) and help them understand the key concepts # subscribe at [[Wikinews:Water cooler]] (there are 5 subforums, open each and click 'Subscribe' link at top - then keep a close eye on your Echo notifications) to help newcomers and help with editing articles when someone requests assistance # chat on [[WN:IRC|live chat]] and help newcomers and reviewers with their review process # help with software development for authoring or reviewing articles, perhaps for the mobile platforms # chat with other contributors on audio or video chat # present notes about how Wikinews works at various conferences via audio and video communucations [as we don't have funds for travel at present] this can be linux, programming, journalistical, or wikimedia themed conferences # figure out how to get someone to do any of the above through a grant, sometimes google summer of code # find high school and university educators who would like to teach their class journalism by asking them to write articles for Wikinews (was done with [[Category:UoW|University of Wollongong]] in the past, and we have extension installed for marking students) # collaborate with [[User:Pharos|Pharos]] on getting more news coverage of the New York City and adjacent areas # proofread, or read, Wikinews articles out loud for Audio Wikinews # make English Wikinews accounts on various social media like twitter, facebook, blue sky app (sp?), others [in consultation with someone on-wiki first] ensuring you're posting new news articles there with appropriate tags, moderate comments, and setup multiple moderators if possible and document which contributor is in charge of which social network account for Wikinews and how articles are being posted there Please let me know which of these points you're most comfortable with, and/or would like to learn. '''''Which points would you like to contribute?''''' Please name up to 3-5 points, if you like. Or suggest your own. :-) I'm happy to connect with you and guide you in any of the above areas. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:54, 16 March 2025 (UTC) :I like alot of these! :#7. I've been meaning to start using IRC for a while. Maybe today's the day. :#8. Not sure what I can do to help with software development but I have a bunch of friends who know code. :#12. I know a few university professors in the history field. :#14. I've never heard of Audio Wikinews. Sounds self-explanatory. How many articles have audio with them? :Thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:02, 17 March 2025 (UTC) == This is terribly overdue! == {|style="border: 8px solid gray; background-color: #fdff7;" |rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[Image:Pencil tip closeup 2.JPG|160px]] |rowspan="2" | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 2; vertical-align: middle; height: .4em;" | '''The Order of the Humble Pencil''' <br> For completing ''5 edits''. |- |style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Great work! Keep it up! --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:12, 17 March 2025 (UTC) |} == Stuff == Some of your (recent) contributions have gone stale. Sorry -- keep at it!!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:27, 18 March 2025 (UTC) == Darn it! == That execution article ROCKED! Is there a snowball's change you could gatwick it? I'll help -- for realz!!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:39, 18 March 2025 (UTC) :Thanks for the kind words! I don't think I can gatwick it -- it went stale on Friday, and there have not been any new developments that I'm aware of. I shot myself in the foot by relying too heavily on a source that I later discovered had an apparent paywall (only the first two days were free I guess). On the bright side, I was able to use alot of it for the Wikipedia article, but I wish I could have gotten it published here! It would have been a good one. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:49, 19 March 2025 (UTC) == You ok??? == Hope your good???? {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:01, 25 March 2025 (UTC) :I've been borderline kind of freaking out lately. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:38, 25 March 2025 (UTC) ::Well, take a few breaths -- back up -- '''re-calibrate the mechanism''' -- and come back soon!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 12:31, 1 April 2025 (UTC) == You've AT LEAST earned this!! == [[File:Wikinews WikiNoob.png|210px|left|This [[Wikinews:Contributing Reporter Awards|award]] is presented to new reporters who have started 10 or fewer news articles.]] Keep at it!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 12:33, 1 April 2025 (UTC) :Ahh thank you!! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:08, 1 April 2025 (UTC) :congrats [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:57, 6 April 2025 (UTC) ::thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 12:58, 6 April 2025 (UTC) == Articles == Your clogging up the queue, please resort to 1 possibly 2 articles at a time. I don't want to see you blocked..... Many of your articles will most likely go stale, or you will abandon them. Sorry for so harsh but its facts... @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:19, 14 April 2025 (UTC) :I've also put a good amount of effort into helping your articles.... Your stressing me out badly.... @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:21, 14 April 2025 (UTC) ::Will you please stop needlessly punctuating ''every sentence'' with "..........."? Because it comes off as needlessly shitty to everyone you talk to and that really isn't something I need to be dealing with. No matter the topic it just sets a negative tone right off the bat. Sorry, "but it's facts." [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:28, 14 April 2025 (UTC) :Coming from a user who constantly abandons articles lol [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:22, 14 April 2025 (UTC) ::It's not funny brah, i should report you! But i wont, your harassing me and wikinews!!! °½<½½½<<½½½;½½ @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:32, 14 April 2025 (UTC) ::your a sock or troll.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:33, 14 April 2025 (UTC) :I found these stubs useful and was pleased. Expanded one yesterday. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:17, 14 April 2025 (UTC) == Interest in notifications for new drafts == Hi Lofi Gurl I'd like to invite you to edit drafts created by other contributors to improve their quality and reduce reviewer load on them, so that more reviewers can review articles written by you. Would you be interested in notifications of the current drafts in the Newsroom, compiled with a note of what the event date and link to article? I can make something like [[User:Gryllida/Newsroom]]. If you're interested, would you like to get notified when article '''is created as a new draft''' ([[:Category:Developing]]) or when it is '''submitted for review''' ([[:Category:Review]])? Many thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:12, 15 April 2025 (UTC) :Yes, I would love that. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:16, 15 April 2025 (UTC) ::Awesome thanks. Which option would you prefer, articles created in Developing or in Review category? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:28, 15 April 2025 (UTC) :::Definitely developing. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:29, 15 April 2025 (UTC) ::::Would you like to get notifications 'instantly' for each new draft, or weekly? ::::Would you be OK if these notifications were delivered to your personal talk page? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:35, 15 April 2025 (UTC) :::::Instantly would be great. Yeah, my talk page would be fine starting out, but if we could find a way for them to only show up in my notifications inbox, that would be good too. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:50, 15 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::great thanks i will try to figure out how to make this work [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:55, 16 April 2025 (UTC) ::May I ask about your devices: how many, what OS, have you used an RSS feed reader before? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:08, 16 April 2025 (UTC) :::I mainly edit on my laptop using Windows 10. No I've never used an RSS feed reader before. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:20, 16 April 2025 (UTC) == idaho police story == published after an edit to write in active voice, great writeup thanks heaps [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:54, 16 April 2025 (UTC) == Don't edit my articles == Thanks [[Special:Contributions/64.39.81.71|64.39.81.71]] ([[User talk:64.39.81.71|talk]]) 17:11, 17 April 2025 (UTC) @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] :Why not? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:34, 17 April 2025 (UTC) ::Sorry got ahead of myself [[Special:Contributions/64.39.81.71|64.39.81.71]] ([[User talk:64.39.81.71|talk]]) 18:32, 17 April 2025 (UTC) :Anyone can edit anyone's article. This is not bbc nor a blog. Articles belong to Wikinews, not to individual authors. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:51, 17 April 2025 (UTC) == [[Suspect taken into custody and charged after Pennsylvania governor Josh Shapiro is forced to evacuate gubernatorial mansion with family following suspected arson attack]][ == is there a court date scheduled for this? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:37, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :Ill look into it when i ge5 home [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:54, 20 April 2025 (UTC) == Hello == I just wanted to say hi. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:57, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :Hey BigKrow! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:47, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::I seem to have an imposter, a pain in my side, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], @[[User:BigKrow2|BigKrow2]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:49, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::Also @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], @[[User:Gryllida2|Gryllida2]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:50, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], notified. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:50, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::I really hope this is just some random child that doesn't know the actual severity of what they're doing here. But that is clearly someone who has been kicked from the project multiple times. Just ignore the humanoid. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:58, 20 April 2025 (UTC) == BigKrow2 == Please tell me your really not me @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], I wouldn't be superised. Also @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] and @[[User:Gryllida2|Gryllida2]] @[[User:MeDaWikipedian|MeDaWikipedian]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:03, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :You're accusing me of being that guy who impersonated Bddpaux last year? Is that what you're saying? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:06, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::Honestly I think you are. Trying to sneak back in .... @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:08, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::Why? What basis do you have for that? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:09, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :That shit happened before I created my account, but I saw it happen. Is every new user here going to be accused of being that person then? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:08, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::Prove your innocence then, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:10, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::How? You have to open a sockpuppet investigation into me I guess. Why are you making baseless accusations? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:12, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::I'm just checking but you might be a sock puppet account you changed the article fucks to some other story suspicious. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:13, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::Why is that suspicious? I turned a vandalism article into a stub. You're being silly. Your baseless accusations are disruptive. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:20, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::Prove your innocence, @[[User:MeDaWikipedian|MeDaWikipedian]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:21, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:22, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::Once again -- ''how?'' [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:22, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::I can't check user you right now but, I'm always watching you.... @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:24, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::::Why? Why do you think I am this user? Why do you want to checkuser me? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:30, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::::I have my suspicions. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:33, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::::::So it's just conjecture? I'm not Me Da Wikipedian. Why are you suspecting me of sockpuppetry? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:40, 20 April 2025 (UTC) == I suffer from bad mental health issues == I know my behavior has been negative to you, so by taking responsibility for my words towards you, I just don't want to be blocked from editing Wiki news. And thinking you are a sock is wrong of me. Lofi Gurl you don't have to accept my apology but I do hope you understand where I'm coming from about my mental health. Thank you for listening. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:14, 21 April 2025 (UTC) :Okay? I am never afforded understanding or forgiveness when my mental health issues cause problems in relationships. I'm just frankly tired of this crap. Youve been making me not want to log in [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:18, 21 April 2025 (UTC) ::You can only make your own decisions, I say you keep working get past this and move forward @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:29, 21 April 2025 (UTC) :::Agreed. This was a waste of time. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:17, 21 April 2025 (UTC) == Thank you for not retiring == Thank you for sticking around! Your well needed here. Thanks. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:24, 22 April 2025 (UTC) :🙂🥳👍⚡️ [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 17:22, 22 April 2025 (UTC) == Sources fill ✍️ == Hi, at my personal talk page at Wikipedia there is a user script, which may be copy pasted to [[Special:MyPage/common.js]], that adds a new button in the editor: it prompts for an URL, generates a filled source template for it, and copies it to clipboard. It reliably inserts the source title at least 🤣 In many, but not all, cases it also gets the publisher and date -- though not always in the right "April 22, 2025" format -- properly, too. Then, if in the visual editing mode, I double click the pasted source to fix if needed. Perhaps this could help you save time. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 17:45, 22 April 2025 (UTC) :Yes I was actually going to ask if we could program something like that, because en.wp has it. Thank you! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:59, 22 April 2025 (UTC) ::Is it working for you? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:31, 4 May 2025 (UTC) :::Do you have a link to the script? I tried to access the script from your Wikipedia talk page from the section titled "Script" but it just lead me to a deleted page. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:36, 4 May 2025 (UTC) ::::[[User:Gryllida/common.js]] -> ::::<pre>importScript('User:Gryllida/js/add-source-in-visual-editor.js');</pre> ::::[[User:Gryllida/js/add-source-in-visual-editor.js]] ::::Works in 'Source editing' mode if it is the same toolbar as Visual Editor. ::::It adds a star icon. Clicking it prompts for the news URL, and then a few seconds alter it adds the filled source template at cursor position. ::::Note that date may be missing. Authors usually are missing. Publisher name isn't always correct (needs to be such that you can wikilink to wikipedia). So you need to check what it generated. But at least it gets title and date right 90% of the time for me and it makes writing easier. ::::Hope it helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 06:11, 4 May 2025 (UTC) == Minor edit urgent please? == Hi Lofi Gurl I think it is best of someone adds a source and attribution about the '51' number of injuries. The article was already published, so this needs to be done immediately, so that the approval of the edit can be done within less than 24 hours. Please see [[Talk:Kamikaze_drone_attacks_bus_near_Dnipropetrovsk,_Ukraine,_allegedly_war_crime|this page]] for more details. BigKrow refused to do it, now I have the request for your help as my last hope. Looks like nobody else currently active at the wiki this weekend. Thanks heaps, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:54, 25 April 2025 (UTC) :Hey! Let me know what you think of my revision. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:56, 25 April 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you for the edit. ::If you click the image of the bus, in description, it links to a few sources. One of them is a telegram post by someone, possibly military official from Ukraine. I think it could be added as source and in article text the '51' figure could be attributed to that source specifying their name and whatever role is associated with their nick in telegram. If you can do this soon, I can approve it. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:31, 26 April 2025 (UTC) == Saying hi == @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], how are you? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:05, 2 May 2025 (UTC) :Taking it one day at a time. Thanks for asking. How are you doing friend? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:15, 2 May 2025 (UTC) ::I'm living heh, glad to hear your doing okay. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:17, 2 May 2025 (UTC) == Yo BigKrow == @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] Can I ask a favor? Can you go on the Lady Gaga article and fill out the sources, and then submit for a review? I'm heading into the city to attend a concert at the moment. Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:49, 10 May 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], I got you! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:16, 11 May 2025 (UTC) == How are you? == @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:47, 11 May 2025 (UTC) :Kinda hungover. Didnt get great sleep last night. Slept in my car because I didnt want to risk a DUI after the concert. Im excited to hopefully feel better tomorrow. How are you? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:16, 11 May 2025 (UTC) ::Well I'm here for you my friend. I'm doing alright. Take it easy! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:40, 12 May 2025 (UTC) :::Appreciate it! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:50, 12 May 2025 (UTC) == You ok? == @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:15, 14 May 2025 (UTC) :yeah, i'm fine. thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:28, 15 May 2025 (UTC) == Hi, how do you read me == Hi, I included you at your request into the "pingrr" list recently. You'd've received a few dozens of "RR" echo notifications in the last two weeks. Did they arrive? Could you please tell me what is preventing you from responding to them? Revision requests are an essential part of the collaboration process, and your participation is vitally important. Please provide me with the feedback, it would help me a lot with making this process more efficient and easier for you to use. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:24, 18 May 2025 (UTC) :Sorry, its currently busy season at work. I work in lawn care. I try to make revisions when I can, and I certainly respond more than at least 80% of the people who are pinged. Im sorry my volunteer time is limited at the moment. Several of my articles went stale waiting for review priod to my involuntary wikibreak. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:13, 18 May 2025 (UTC) ::No problem. I just wanted to check the setup is working. Ping me if you have a news story in mind but no time to write of it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:26, 19 May 2025 (UTC) == Top article in April! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Original author for the top article published in April, 2025. The article has at least 1,754 views, the highest for year so far!]] Thank you for starting the article titled "[[Streaming platform Twitch bans rapper Kanye West seven minutes into first stream for performing "Nazi salute"]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in April of 2025, and the highest so far of 2025! Bam! 💥 {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image--> As the original author, you can also use the following userbox on your user page: {{userbox | id = [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025-mini.png|40px]] | info = ''This user was the original author of the [[Wikinews:2025 Boost publication rate/Monthly top article|top article]] for April, 2025'' | border-s = 1 }} {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image--> Thank you for your continued efforts at not only starting new articles but contributing to others as well. Your collaborative efforts are greatly appreciated. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:54, 20 May 2025 (UTC) :Awesome! I can't wait to get back to writing. I have some merciless "{{w|adulting}}" to attend to in my personal life at the moment. When I'm back writing, you'll all know it. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:52, 20 May 2025 (UTC) ::Totally understand. Take care of what you need to, and we’ll be glad to see you back when the time’s right. Looking forward to it! —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:55, 20 May 2025 (UTC) == Come back please == Wikinews needs you, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 15:47, 15 June 2025 (UTC) :Hey. I heard about what's going on. Im going to try to find some free time this week to get some articles written to try to help save the project. Sorry for the radio silence [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:20, 29 June 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], thanks for sticking around! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:28, 29 June 2025 (UTC) == Your stories are stale == Sorry, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:09, 29 June 2025 (UTC) :Are you sure? The gambling story happened Friday and the Beyonce story happened last night, from what I can tell. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:14, 29 June 2025 (UTC) ::You need stories to be '''"fresh"''' even a day old is stale. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:19, 29 June 2025 (UTC) :::Ideally yeah, but it's not stale until seven days have passed since the focal point of the story. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:14, 29 June 2025 (UTC) ::::Ok [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:20, 29 June 2025 (UTC) == Hello from Gryllida == Hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Would you be interested in joining as a reviewer? If you were, I or another reviewer of your interest would be doing it together with you for the first several months to assist. Similarly, would you be interested in helping with page deletions and blocking users, and removing vandalism. Is this something you have done before and do you have an interest? Are there any changes to the workflow that you would consider helpful? Are you on any IM platform such as Discord, Linphone (SIP), Matrix, where we could exchange messages, screenshots, and sometimes audio calls? Regards, - [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:04, 8 July 2025 (UTC) :Hey! That sounds like a good offer. Definitely curious to see what I can bring as a reviewer. I have no expirience blocking users or deleting pages. Give me a few days to sleep on it. Thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:02, 9 July 2025 (UTC) ::Hey Lofi Gurl, and are you on any of the IM platforms? Maybe Telegram? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 17:53, 6 August 2025 (UTC) :::I plan on creating a discord account for my Wiki stuff. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:07, 6 August 2025 (UTC) ::::any luck? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:48, 14 January 2026 (UTC) == Community response to SPTF's recommendation to close ''Wikinews'' == The Wikimedia Foundation’s Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF) has issued a [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|recommendation to close Wikinews]]. A community response to the Task Force is underway and I believe it's critical that we show clear support from contributors, reviewers, and administrators if we want Wikinews to remain open. If you believe Wikinews still has potential for revitalization and should remain active, I ask that you: * Review and help improve the draft community response, and/or * Add your endorsement once you're comfortable with the language The goal is to finalize the draft before the [[m:Event:Community_consultation_on_Wikispore/Wikinews,_call_1|July 16 Task Force call]], so our response is ready for consideration. You can find the draft here: 👉 [[Wikinews:Response to Proposal for Closing Wikinews]] Thanks for considering. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:49, 11 July 2025 (UTC) == Thank you my friend! == Good work on la explosion [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:12, 18 July 2025 (UTC) @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] :Thanks for bringing the story! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:13, 18 July 2025 (UTC) ::We need to block those ips. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:41, 18 July 2025 (UTC) :::I reported them, all I can do. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:47, 18 July 2025 (UTC) ::::I know.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:47, 18 July 2025 (UTC) == Nigerian abductors article == If you can find an image to add (even just a file photo or whatever) -- I think we might be able to get that one published. It could use ''maybe'' one more sentence while you're at it too?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:39, 29 July 2025 (UTC) :Yeah I'll take a look at it. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:44, 30 July 2025 (UTC) == Top article in July! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in July, 2025. The article has at least 3,583 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[20-year-old astrophotographer captures rare solar eclipse on Saturn]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in July of 2025. This is your second barn star for top article! Thanks for your continued, hard work! {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image-->[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:35, 4 August 2025 (UTC) == [[Talk:Several people hospitalized after thousands of hotdogs spill following collision on interstate in Pennsylvania]] == i published article, please check talk page for feedback thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 17:51, 6 August 2025 (UTC) == Live chat software trial == Live chat software trial (August-September 2025) Hi, i am running a software to make live chat easier to use. It requires installation of QuasselDroid on Android, Quassel Client on Windows or Mac or Linux, and I don't know what on iOS (let me know if this is your main platform). The software would connect you to the official IRC channel for Wikinews and stay connected including all chat history, including when you closed the app. I am achieving this by hosting it on my Quassel Core on my server. If you are interested in trying this option, please install the Quassel Client software, and after this is done (not before), ensure you have a working email in your [[Special:Preferences]] so i can email you login credentials, and specify your desired IRC nickname. Please note this is open source software with low bandwidth usage and the communication is only via text, so it is not privacy invasive. This platform is older than the web, irc existed since 1980s. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:03, 7 August 2025 (UTC) :Hi, please install the Quassel Client, it is free/open source, low bandwidth, low RAM and CPU usage :and tell me your desired nickname :I would greatly appreciated if you could use it for a few weeks and then leave me some feedback. This chat platform has 3 reviewers on it, and yourself being sitting in chat all 24/7 via this software could make collaboration much easier as then others could send messages to the group while your device is offline, and you could get notifications on mobile. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:07, 10 August 2025 (UTC) ::I will install this when I get home from the city today. Thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:40, 10 August 2025 (UTC) :::👍 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:42, 10 August 2025 (UTC) ::::I got them downloaded for both Windows and Android. My name can just be Lofi Gurl on there. Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:03, 10 August 2025 (UTC) == Train derails article == Sad event. Excellent coverage, though.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:21, 12 August 2025 (UTC) :Thank you. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:15, 12 August 2025 (UTC) == Re: [[EasyJet pilot dismissed after being allegedly spotted naked and intoxicated in 5-star hotel, reports say]] == Hi Lofi Gurl * please refocus on a recent event with [[WN:IP|inverted pyramid]] and re submit @ [[Talk:EasyJet pilot dismissed after being allegedly spotted naked and intoxicated in 5-star hotel, reports say]] Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:19, 19 August 2025 (UTC) == Re: [[Stunt performer set ablaze for cover artwork of Pink Floyd album dies aged 88]] == can you please try to find a photo of the person in 12h to add to story thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:23, 19 August 2025 (UTC) :The only one I have of him is from Wikipedia and it's fair use only. I don't know how to obtain permission to use that here. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:32, 19 August 2025 (UTC) == Thank you!!! == For your help with the church shooting article! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:25, 28 August 2025 (UTC) :No prob! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:06, 28 August 2025 (UTC) == Thank you == For the help on shark story! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:27, 7 September 2025 (UTC) :No, thank you for getting the story! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:33, 7 September 2025 (UTC) == Top article for August! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Original author for the top article published in August, 2025. The article has at least 2,685 views.]] Thank you for starting the article titled "[[Several people hospitalized after thousands of hotdogs spill following collision on interstate in Pennsylvania]]." As of today, the article has the highest number of page-views of all articles published in August of 2025. {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image--> As the original author, you can also use the following userbox on your user page: {{userbox | id = [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025-mini.png|40px]] | info = ''This user was the original author of the [[Wikinews:2025 Boost publication rate/Monthly top article|top article]] for August, 2025'' | border-s = 1 }} {{clear}} Hot diggity dog, you nailed it![[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:30, 14 September 2025 (UTC) :Congrats for your article! Attracting that amount of readers to a story about a local hot dog spill is not small feat. [[User:Dsuke1998AEOS|Dsuke1998]][[Special:Contributions/Dsuke1998AEOS|AEOS]] ('''[[User talk:Dsuke1998AEOS|talk]]''') 01:09, 16 September 2025 (UTC) ::Thanks guys! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 14:58, 16 September 2025 (UTC) == How are you? == hi pal @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:51, 23 September 2025 (UTC) :Im okay. Moving this weekend. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:51, 23 September 2025 (UTC) == Hi friend == How you doing? @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:13, 6 October 2025 (UTC) == Reviewing == Hi - I'm new here, trying to help out (recruited from elsewiki). I see you've been contributing here a while - is it possible you are ready to become a reviewer? Would that interest you? I'm still learning what's going on here. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 21:26, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :I actually have an open request for reviewership open somewhere haha! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:33, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::I'm trying to get some reform going to save this cite, maybe you have some input. I posted at [[Wikinews talk:Newsworthiness]]... [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 22:40, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::Reviewer permission granted. Congratulations, Lofi Gurl! Just reviewing one story a week would be more than sufficient, I think doing more than that is a risk of burnout. Up to you. :) Let me know if any questions. Thanks, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 02:40, 10 October 2025 (UTC) :::This is awesome news! Yeah, one review per week sounds good to me. Thank you! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:03, 10 October 2025 (UTC) :::: Congratulations! I'll help out however I can. My availability will be short and sporadic likely for the next week. But the goal is not to just hand you the reviewer role and let you learn it on your own (that happened to me). :::: First step is ensuring you now see the "Review" action in the top-right of your browser when you view articles in the review queue. Once you click on "Review" for an article, you should now see an interface that allows you to select options via drop-down menus for the five areas we review. All of those drop-downs must be "pass" for the article to pass. Otherwise the gadget will label the article 'not ready.' :::: Have a look at the following for other advice and info: :::: ::::* [[User:Michael.C.Wright/Review process study/Reviewer lane|Michael.C.Wright/Review process study/Reviewer lane]] (brief overview of full, reviewer workflow) ::::* [[Wikinews:Review checklist|Review checklist]] (process of reviewing) ::::* [[Wikinews:Tips on reviewing articles|Tips on reviewing articles]] (old essay representing the intent of the 'modern review process') ::::* [[Wikinews:Publish checklist|Publish checklist]] (additional steps needed once an article passes review) :::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:21, 11 October 2025 (UTC) :::::Congratulations @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] on becoming a new reviewer! I also think new reviewers might benefit from [[Wikinews:Gadgets and Tools/easyPeerReview|documentation on how to use the easyPeerReview]] gadget (this is the gadget that shows the "Review" option in the top-right tools menu and opens the review template with dropdown options). If any reviewer is interested, perhaps a short guide for the gadget would be helpful. Although, I am not sure if there's already any documentation available for the easyPeerReview gadget. [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:07, 11 October 2025 (UTC) :::::: After some digging I found [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Template:Peer_reviewed#Use_.5BUsing_Easy_Peer_Review.5D this] but it could use expanding. That's something I can do, possibly within the next few weeks if someone else doesn't get to it beforehand.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:22, 13 October 2025 (UTC) ::Hey - I saw your post elsewhere where once again you expressed your frustration at what is going on in this site. I'm sorry if my attempts to get _some_ change going in time to make a difference bothered you, and definitely not happy that no change happened and that people obfuscated the issue on the talk page to the point where nothing was clear. That all speaks to the problems here. There is so much disrespect floating around on this site currently, I do tend to think that there isn't much to be done as it is right now. I fully understand your frustration, and seeing it was part of what motivated me to seek change. This site was in a state of emergency and no one acted to fix it. Anyway maybe I'll bump into you on en.wikipedia proper, I'm sure if you want to you'll find something to contribute; or if not there, who knows where else? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:18, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::Thanks for the message. Your efforts did not bother me at all. It wasn't like this when I first joined. Some of my articles would go stale waiting for review, but it was rare. My previous 8-9 articles over the last few months, and not a single one got reviewed. It is what it is. Yeah, you'll probably see me over at the current events articles on ENWP in the future. At least there you can work at your own pace. Why feel pressure to write fresh content if it can't get reviewed on time anyway? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:30, 4 December 2025 (UTC) ::::Exactly - and the fact that no one was doing the reviews certainly puts out the message - whether true or not - that the reviewers care less about this project than the ones submitting the articles. This is made worse by the fact that there may be more reviewers than article contributors at this point. Regardless, we really needed a short term solution here, and no one was interested (actually, some WERE interested, but it got obfuscated away. Some people even claimed you supported the status quo!) So it goes! At least personally I met a few nice wiki folks I would not have found otherwise. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:57, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::::It could be argued that I was more in a position to make an impact here since I was nade reviwer, but truthfully I just dont really know what I'm doing. I definitely didnt support the status quo, I just was not interested in loosening the site's guidelines. I just cant help but wonder how this looks to the outside -- all these articles getting neglected and trashed while dozens are calling for the whole thing to be shut down. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:16, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::::: With EzPR 2025, we can do partial reviews. So you could start a review and when you get to a point where you want help, you can save the partial review and tag another reviewer for a hand (I'd be happy to help). :::::: Also, if the review process is daunting enough to keep you from doing the review, I think it would help everyone if you could articulate what is holding you back. It could be that the same thing is impacting other reviewers and it should therefore be changed. :::::: You have fresh eyes on the review process and may see things differently than those who have done it for some time.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:06, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::That sounds like it might be worth a try. How do I access EzPR 2025? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:44, 5 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::: It should show up in the Tools menu, the same place EzPR shows up (for me, they are stacked on top of each other in the right-hand sidebar). If you view an article [[Raccoon found passed out in liquor store after drunken rampage|marked for review]], you should see "Review (EPRv2)" in your Tools. That's it. :::::::: If you'd like to start with the [[Raccoon found passed out in liquor store after drunken rampage|Racoon story]], I'll step away from it. Initially to me it looks like a relatively solid article and is light-hearted, with little risk of serious ramifications of libel or defamation if we get it wrong (as opposed to an interview with a prominent figure, for example).[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:10, 5 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::::The EzPR 2025 will not show up automatically like the old one. EzPR is enabled by default for all reviewers as a gadget, while EzPR 2025 is not currently a gadget. :::::::::So @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], if you want to use it, let me know and I can enable/install it for you. After that, you will find "Review (EPRv2)" in your Tools menu. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:21, 5 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::::: Ahhh, sorry. I thought it was now in testing by all reviewers.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:22, 5 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::::::I can enable it for all reviewers by default, so they don't have to manually install it. But I chose not to do that initially because it seems a bit bold to me. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:31, 5 December 2025 (UTC) ::::::::: @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], I went ahead and published the raccoon story. But feel free to jump into the next story you feel comfortable with.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:24, 5 December 2025 (UTC) {{outdent|11}}Sometimes bold is good. ツ I think you've been very careful so far and personally trust that you won't blow anything up. But its your call. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:41, 5 December 2025 (UTC) == Top article in September! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in September, 2025. The article has at least 4,083 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[Shark attack kills Australian surfer off Long Reef Beach, Sydney]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in September of 2025. Your name keeps popping up as a contributor or original author in the monthly top article. Thank you for your continued effort! This was also the highest number of page-views yet this year. {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image-->[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:25, 14 October 2025 (UTC) == welcome back == Hi friend glad to have you back @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:01, 19 October 2025 (UTC) :Thanks. Good to finally have internet again. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:10, 19 October 2025 (UTC) == Hello == Saw your story about Sam Rivers. Unfortunately I am away and cannot review until around mid November. Please check [[Newsroom]] and [[WN:IRC|live chat]] to help with editing other reports as this may help publish yours sooner. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:09, 20 October 2025 (UTC) :Heard. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:23, 20 October 2025 (UTC) == Scoop access == As a reviewer, you should have access to Scoop so that you can receive OR material. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] manages the email server and should be able to set up an account for you. If you haven't done so already, you should reach out and request an account. It might be a while before you're comfortable reviewing OR, and that's okay. It is a bit of a different beast. But you should have access to Scoop now so you can see the material and otherwise use it to assist with developing OR and getting it closer to a publishable state.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:22, 21 October 2025 (UTC) :For scoop account username: it is not the same as your wiki login; unfortunately the email server was not setup for OAuth login. Usually, but not always, it's the legal first name and last name, to make the request more professional in the case you might need to contact one of the OR involved parties to confirm some information; one of the reviewers uses just their first name only for the username and one used their wiki nick. '''Please tell me what username for scoop email you would like.''' Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:51, 21 October 2025 (UTC) == Using EasyPeerReview == Hey there, I finally got around to starting a help page for EasyPeerReview at [[Help:EasyPeerReview]]. Verify you have access to EzPR (you see the Review link in Actions when viewing an article marked with {{tl|Review}}) and have a look at the help page. Let me know if the page is actually helpful. Let me know if you want to jump into a review together or if you have any questions about the process, where to find things, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:42, 12 November 2025 (UTC) :Hi. Sorry for disappearing. I recently moved out of my parents' house and I am working three jobs now. I have not had time for wiki projects unfortunately. I can't lose monentum towards getting my shit together in real life. I hope to have a new laptop this winter and hope to be back going strong around that time. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:06, 15 November 2025 (UTC) :: Get yer shit together, why don't ya? ツ :: No worries. It sounds like you are making the right priorities. 👍[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:24, 15 November 2025 (UTC) :::Thank you for understanding. I just went down from three jobs to two, so I am hoping I can at least start helping out with pre-reviews more regularly. I'm nervous about doing full reviews by myself though. I'm so sorry for falling off the grid. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:16, 20 November 2025 (UTC) == You still with us? == Haven't heard from you in awhile. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:33, 18 November 2025 (UTC) :I'm not really able to contribute in any meaningful way with the amount of free time I currently have. Sorry. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:50, 19 November 2025 (UTC) :Thank you for checking in though homie, the last two months in particular have been pretty challenging for me. But I'm getting through it. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:25, 20 November 2025 (UTC) ::Sending good vibes! You got this! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:44, 20 November 2025 (UTC) ::Please consider to try [[User:Asked42/Taglet]] it is a 5 min a day commitment to a triage process of new drafts, that helps other users a lot. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:55, 21 November 2025 (UTC) == Welcome back == Hi friend @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :Good to see ya [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:41, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :Happy turkey day [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:41, 27 November 2025 (UTC) == My attacks on you as a person == It might sound like the same old thing, but I do in fact apologize to you for my negative attacking of you. You can choose to accept or decline my attempted apologize, thank you again. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:33, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :Its fine, no hard feelings. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:42, 4 December 2025 (UTC) ::Same [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:47, 4 December 2025 (UTC) == Never give up my Friend == I will never lose Faith in you. We have had our spats but positivity is good for us. Hope life gets better. Talk soon? @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:05, 7 December 2025 (UTC) :Yeah, you'll see me around. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:02, 8 December 2025 (UTC) :Sorry for the profane edit summaries today [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:22, 8 December 2025 (UTC) == Wasn't expecting == Hey thanks so much for helping the drug bust story. I wasn't expecting anyone to help it out. My bad abandoning habits. Anyways thank you! You did a great job by the way! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:02, 9 December 2025 (UTC) :Thanks dude [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:18, 9 December 2025 (UTC) == Well done == Great job @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:47, 13 December 2025 (UTC) :thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:50, 13 December 2025 (UTC) == Starting a review == Hi, hope you Are doing well. From [[Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Removal/Lofi Gurl|your comment]], it appears you were struggling to start a review on an article as you mentioned you couldn't find any buttons. For your convenience, I've prepared a Review Launcher. Just [[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)#Review launcher widget|visit the page]], enter the article name you want to review, and click the "Start Review" button. That's it. After clicking Start Review, you will be redirected to the article page, wait for 1-2 seconds and the peer-review form should open for you. Use that form to submit your review result. I hope this isn't too complicated. If at any point you feel lost, just let me know. I understand that you may not be interested in reviewing at the moment, but if the reason is simply not knowing how to start the review, this approach might be helpful. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:31, 21 December 2025 (UTC) :A detailed documentation on how to use the peer-review form is [[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)|available here]]. If you still need more assistance, I can share some screenshots with you via email showing how to use the form. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:33, 21 December 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:44, 21 December 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you so much. I will keep this in mind once I get my head clear. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:12, 23 December 2025 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Barnes and noble stabbing]] (December 26) == Rewrite is requested 1) Please add a note about whether the victim died. This is essential to clarify this, even if the article mentions "murder"; specify whether the victim died on the scene or in an ambulance or in a hospital. Please fix this issue and re-submit for review. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:14, 26 December 2025 (UTC) :Please also move the page. The headline should contain a verb. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:16, 26 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[United States, Florida: A man fatally stabs a Barnes & Noble bookstore shopper, claims 'no cause' to police]] (December 26) == hello, this message is sent to all contributors to the article. some of the comments below may or may not be useful to you, please check them carefully for your future edits or for helping to revise after another user. i did this 1) renamed to clearer headline 2) copyedited second paragraph to replace 'She' with 'The victim' i am requesting further edits: 1) specify source for '9:22pm' 2) add a photo of a barnes and noble book store please do these changes now, and i will sight the edits thank you -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:31, 26 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Keyboardist-guitarist of English rock band The Cure dies aged 65]] (January 3) == Event over 7 days old. Passing as exception in context of following factors * nobody was around on holidays anyway (I am being lenient) * the article is well written * it is obituary about a person's whole life so it is still slightly newsy for a while Please do not consider this as precedent for future articles. Thanks -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:42, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Pile up involving dozens of cars on Japan highway kills two]] (January 3) == comment left by reviewer 1) event dec26 not new anymore see [[WN:Freshness]] action requested 1) please report a newer "more current" event not this old one thanks -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:57, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Residents shelter in place for hours after gas leak outside of Los Angeles]] (January 3) == Published. Congratulations, and thank you for starting, or revising, the article. Notes from reviewer: 1) This is on the edge of being old and no longer 'news', but still acceptable. 2) If AI/LLM was used, please leave a note on the article talk page immediately. This is required. Thank you. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:06, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Welcome back == Hi [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] * Follow these instructions [[Wikinews:Easy_Peer_Review_(2025_version)#Getting_Started|get started]] says "''To use it, go to any article that you want to review (make sure it has the {{tl|review}} template). You will find a "Review (EPRv2)" option in your "Actions" menu (in the Vector 2022 skin) or the "More" menu (in the Vector 2010 skin). After clicking this option, a form will appear at the top of the article.''". are you seeing this button? Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:48, 14 January 2026 (UTC) :no, I am not seeing either of these buttons on articles submitted for review. Im only seeing an option to prevreview. I use the 2010 skin. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:03, 14 January 2026 (UTC) :Nevermind, I FINALLY found it. It was under the "More" tab. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:06, 14 January 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father]] (January 19) == {{Notify_review/notready|article=Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father|author=Lofi Gurl|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:53, 19 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father]] (January 20) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father|author=Lofi Gurl|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:09, 20 January 2026 (UTC) :Credit truly goes to [[User:Gryllida]] and [[User:BigKrow]]. All I did was "get" this story. Thanks for running with it! I will attempt to review some articles this week. I will be forced to wing it. Perfectist anxiety is the only thing holding me back at this point. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:59, 20 January 2026 (UTC) == Hello == Hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] you still around? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:01, 16 February 2026 (UTC) :Hi. Good to see ya. My heart is not in current events at the moment. I plan to resume involvement here when I am convinced I can make more meaningful contributions. It doesn't look like there has been much activity here. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:32, 16 February 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] I agree with you that activity has been a bit hit and miss. Could you please let me know what is the criteria for this? What would convince you that the activity level is adequate? Knowing this could help to reach and maintain activity sooner. 😊 Thank you. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:43, 18 February 2026 (UTC) :::I just think at this point many editors are reluctant to write new articles due to lack of active reviewers, many articles went stale while waiting for review this year. I overestimated what I was able to accomplish as a reviewer, I just don't have the time or focus right now and I'd review articles if I wasn't so concerned about publicly making a mistake. But I think Wikinews needs to be publishing at least one article per day to remain a viable destination for readers and to encourage more participation. I would have done way more these past four months if I didn't have so much crap going on in my personal life related to living situations, employment, transportation and mental health. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:20, 19 February 2026 (UTC) ::::got it thanks it sounds reasonable. one article per day is a goal i saw mentioned more than once. 😊 Thank you. Regards [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:03, 20 February 2026 (UTC) == streak proposal == Hi, I am proposing to setup [[:w:streak]] goals over a 12 week period: for example, * "write one story each two weeks, and [[:wikt:babysit|babysit]] it until it is published" This could be either authoring a completely new article or this could be taking over someone else's article and doing focused editing on it with active collaboration with others until it is published. It is like a [[:wikt:day shift|day shift]] as you are expected to remain available '[[:wikt:on call|on call]]' to address concerns from another user or reviewer. The aim of this is to build a habit of participation with [[:wikt:outburst|outburst]]s of eyeballing the page to collaborate with others -- but not every day, to have breaks and reduce [[:wikt:burnout|burnout]]. Could you please check out at '''[[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Streak_themed_competition_proposal|this section]]''' and let me know what you think? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 03:15, 22 February 2026 (UTC) == Here&comma; hold this == <div style="display:flex;align-items:center;justify-content:center;text-align:center;flex-wrap:wrap;margin:2em 0">[[File:Rainbow trout transparent.png|175px|link=wikipediawikipedia:Trout|alt=a rainbow trout fish]]<div style="width:280px"><p style="font-size: 225%; color: Red;">'''''Whack!'''''</p><p style="font-size: 115%;">''You've been [[:wikipediawikipedia:Whacking with a wet trout|whacked with a wet trout]].''</p><small>{{{1|Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.}}}</small><!--Template:Trout--> </div></div> An award for all your edits made while under the in&fllig;uence&period; [[User:Anohthterwikipedian|Anohthterwikipedian]] ([[User talk:Anohthterwikipedian|talk]]) 00:47, 5 March 2026 (UTC) :Thank you very much. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:49, 5 March 2026 (UTC) ::dont feed into them @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 02:09, 5 March 2026 (UTC) == srry == brah i saw your user page srry. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 17:53, 11 March 2026 (UTC) :I went to the BMV in person and they gave me the steps to get it reinstated so it's all good hopefully. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:11, 11 March 2026 (UTC) == queue == Just noting there are around 5 stories in queue which were created or substantially expanded by me and I would appreciate if you could have a look! I have none I can publish thus far as I was involved in editing. Thank you! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:06, 11 March 2026 (UTC) :alright, I'll take a look! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:08, 11 March 2026 (UTC) ::well done! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 01:16, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :::Thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:22, 12 March 2026 (UTC) == Reviewing and publishing == Thank you for stepping into the review queue. Reviewing can be thought of as a two-part process: 1. [[Wikinews:Review checklist|Review]]<br> 2. [[Wikinews:Publish checklist|Publish]] The publishing process involves updating our Main page with the new article. The easiest way to do this is to use [[User:Asked42/LeadManager]], which you'll need to install using the instructions [[User:Asked42/LeadManager#Installation|provided on the tool's page]]. As long as all of the reviewers publish articles immediately after reviewing them, the 5 leads will stay up-to-date. Let me know if you need help with anything, or if any part of the checklists is unclear. Much of the review and publishing process becomes second nature to experienced reviewers, and it is easy to forget how overwhelming it can feel in the beginning.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:15, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :thank you! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:46, 12 March 2026 (UTC) == The sources section can be the third rail for reviewers == Reviewers aren't supposed to add or remove sources as part of the review process. Any source listed is assumed to have been used to directly support statements of fact in the article (because that is what is required of authors). When reviewers come across paywalled sources in the sources list, they need to stop the review process and ask the contributors to remove it and any statements supported solely by it. This delays publishing, but helps to ensure accuracy, which is more important than rapid publishing.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:46, 12 March 2026 (UTC) : And to be clear, this isn't meant to be a criticism, but hopefully helpful 'on-boarding.'[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:53, 12 March 2026 (UTC) ::Heard, thanks a bunch [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:35, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :FWIW, while I agree that what described above is one option (and is better than removing the problematic source and leaving content unchanged), it is my position that, if a reviewer had time to remove ''both'' the problematic source and the information that came from it, while remaining confident that all remaining information is verifiable, then, that reviewer is allowed to complete the review and publish the page. I believe that the process I have described reduces delay waiting for author to revise, and does not compromise quality of the review process. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:25, 13 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Woman charged with attempted homicide after allegedly firing shots at Barbadian pop singer Rihanna's house]] (March 13) == Hi all... I would lile to request a major rewrite: 1) LA Times is paywalled. Please replace, and ensure new content is fully verifiable; then re-submit for review. Please let me know if this is in error, or any questions or request assistance. Thanks! ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:46, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :I dont understand why these sites let me read it and then paywall the article later. Probably so some free news source can't use it as a source for their own article. :P [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:28, 12 March 2026 (UTC) ::Maybe they let you read the first 2-3 pages and then after a few pages, start to demand subscription. :-( [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:15, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :::lets take a deep breath and continue on. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 01:17, 13 March 2026 (UTC) ::::It should be an easy fix. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:50, 13 March 2026 (UTC) == Front page headlines == Hi, do you know why [[Australian Minister for Energy lowers fuel standards for 60 days amid rising oil prices, panic buying]] did not show up as one of the front page lead articles after it was published? This has been a recurring problem as discussed at [[Wikinews:Water cooler/technical#Improper 'circle']] and [[Wikinews:Water cooler/technical#The lead articles need to be changed]]. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:33, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :I have no idea honestly. Sometimes when I publish an article, there's a button asking me I want to post it to the front page, sometimes there isn't. I don't think hitting the button has really done anything though, at least for me. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:37, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :: You can still use Lead Manager independently of EZPR 2025. If, for some reason you aren't prompted to update the leads after a successful review or you leave the page without clicking the button, you can still do so by going to [[User:Asked42/LeadManager]]. It will allow you to update the leads individually, serially, or in a custom fashion. :: By default, LM pulls in the last five articles into the "title" drop-down field. If you just click in the title field, you will be presented with a clickable list of the last five published articles. You can simply select the target article, "fetch automatically" the first two sentences, tweak the imported text and image if you'd like, then "Start update" will make the changes. :: To get used to the tools and processes, you can likely skip the 'additional options' area and just publish a single article after a successful review.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:28, 13 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], Let me know if you want me to install the LeadManager script for you, so that you can just start using it. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 16:38, 13 March 2026 (UTC) : I have updated the leads to include the article.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:48, 13 March 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground]] (March 22) == <div style="border:2px solid #57DB1E;background:linear-gradient(135deg,#E6FFE6 0%,#F0FFF0 100%);padding:1em 1.5em;color:#1a1a1a;margin:1.5em;border-radius:4px;box-shadow:0 2px 8px rgba(87,219,30,0.15);"> [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|50px|left|link=]] <div style="margin-left:64px;"> <span style="font-size:1.1em;font-weight:bold;color:#2d5016;"> Hi Lofi Gurl! Thank you for your submission! </span><br/> Your article '''[[South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground]]''' has been reviewed by '''{{User|Gryllida}}''', and it has been accepted and published. '''Congratulations! 🎉''' <div style="margin-top:0.5em;"> The reviewer's comments and decision are available on the [[Talk:South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground|article's talk page]]. </div> <div style="margin-top:0.5em;"> Excellent work, please keep it up! We hope you will continue contributing to Wikinews. If you have some time, consider taking a look at other articles currently [[:Category:Developing|under development]] or [[:Category:Review|awaiting review]]. Your help in improving or reviewing them would be greatly appreciated. </div> <div style="font-size:0.9em;color:#555;"> ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. </div></div></div> -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:34, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :That was a weird bug: I specified an empty custom comment, as my clipboard was borked. :Here is a copy... :A few remarks: :1. Having checked sources, I needed to make some changes, such as "near the neck" and not "in the neck", and the bombing incident was last year (not two years ago). Please check the edit history carefully and let me know if any of my changes were incorrect. :2. I am trying to push towards more exclusive content or more closer follow ups here. Could you please either think of the questions to ask the South Korean Army, or, write a follow up report when the investigations completed and drills resumed? :3. Barely newsworthy as this is nearly 5 days old but I think this is fine to publish. :4. For npov balance, recommend including responses from other sources, i.e., from someone who is not a part of the South Korean Army. This may be done up to 24 hours after the story is published. :Overall, this looks great, I appreciate the report!!! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:37, 22 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[7-ton meteor traverses sky over Ohio and several other US states]] (March 27) == Sorry, this report went stale. ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:38, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[AC/DC guitarist Stevie Young admitted to hospital in Buenos Aires, spokesperson says]] (March 27) == Sorry, this report went stale. Did he survive? ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:41, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Might write some today possibly later == thanks @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:07, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :I'll try to do a few reviews before I go out tonight. I'm going to focus on reviews since it's a fair assumption now that nobody will even look at the articles I submit. It's the only way I can try to fix this project's problems at this point. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:13, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Regarding your move of my article == Hello, Lofi Gurl! I think my article is best located at [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts Christians of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians in landmark ruling]] rather than [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts politicians of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians in landmark ruling]], because, of the four defendants convicted in the case, only one is a politician. The other individual is a bishop. The other two defendants are institutions. The only thing that the four defendants, consisting of two individuals and two institutions, have in common is that they are all Christian. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 19:09, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :okay, sorry for the overreaction. I despise religious fundamentalism and bigotry but I just wanted to make sure the title wasn't going after Christians as some sort of ethnic group or something. But then, Christianity is a {{w|universal religion}}, so I'm not sure the same principles apply anyway. No idea why I'm saying this. I have {{w|religious trauma}} from my Protestant upbringing and I listen to Satanic {{w|death metal}} every day of my life, and idk I guess I just didn't want thst influence creeping into my writing and creating a potential conflict of interest. Thanks for the message. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:40, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thank you for letting me know. I actually went to great lengths to balance the article, get perspectives from all sides, sources from all sides, strongly ground the article in the sources, provide perspectives from all sides, and stay neutral and stick to the facts. This is my very first ever Wikinews article. Since you seem to care about both factuality and neutrality, would you mind reviewing the article? I think it is ready for publication. What do you think? --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:27, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :::Yes absolutely. I should have some time to review stuff while dogsitting tonight. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:24, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Thank you for your review. I appreciate most of your edits, but in [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Supreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_Christians_of_crimes_against_the_humanity_of_gays_and_lesbians_in_landmark_ruling&diff=5002549&oldid=5002548 this edit] you removed the global scientific consensus regarding homosexuality saying that it is "emotional language", but it is scientific language that all scientific, medical, psychological, psychiatric, and pediatric associations, institutions, and organisations use to describe homosexuality, especially against false claims such those made in the pamphlet. I used the World Medical Association as a source, but there are thousands of more sources that use that language. The World Medical Association itself is an international federation of over a hundred national medical associations. Attributing that scientific language to the World Medical Association alone would give readers the incorrect impression that only the World Medical Association holds that position, when in fact it is the common position of all scientific, medical, psychological, psychiatric, and pediatric associations, institutions, and organisations in the whole world. Obviously, it would be impractical to cite every single one of thousands of scientific, medical, psychological, psychiatric, and pediatric associations, institutions, and organisations in the world, which is I cited the World Medical Association, which itself is an international federation of over a hundred national medical associations. Is your review complete? Is the article ready for publication? This is my very first ever Wikinews article, so I'm not entirely familiar with process here. Thank you for your help. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 17:49, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :::::We can just say "according to scientific consensus" then. I mostly just thought the passage was really wordy with way too many adjectives. It's close to being ready for publication. I cleaned it up the best I could without making major revisions and all I need to do now is verify all the claims and check for copyright violations. I'll likely do it later tonight. I was severely hungover yesterday and had to go to sleep early, but I'm good now. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:31, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::I'll leave it in your capable hands then! I'm looking forward to the publication of my very first Wikinews article! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 23:11, 29 March 2026 (UTC) Hi, Lofi Gurl! I appreciate your edits and your review, but I think that changing the title made it too vague, and the previous title was more specific. You said that [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Supreme_Court_of_Finland_makes_crimes_against_humanity_convictions_in_landmark_ruling&diff=5002876&oldid=5002875 "Don wanted this title changed I think"], but I actually couldn't find a comment from Don saying that he wanted the title changed. Are you done reviewing the article? Can we publish the article now? --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:28, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I'm concerned I may have made too substantial of changes to the article to remain an uninvolved reviewer. They just announced today Wikinews is closing and I am gutted. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:04, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Your edits seem to be only related to getting the article ready for publicaiton, so that should not be a problem, right? Also, oh no! That's awful! Why are they closing Wikinews? I really put in a lot of work into that article, so is it possible to get it published before? [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 21:10, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::The project is being closed due to low user engagement. The "current events" module on the front page of Wikipedia does a better job at reporting current events than Wikinews. It is much more timely on Wikipedia, and edits can be published faster because i'm pretty sure that project is not subject to the same libel regulations as this project, as wikipedia is not a news publication. By contrast, Wikinews has a rigorous review process to ensure quality, which sounds good on paper, but ultimately fails when the existing reviewers are either unable or unwilling to perform a review in time to get it published. Most articles that did manage to get published on this site were usually posted 4-5 days after the fact, when the news cycle has effectively moved on. Ive had an extremely difficult time getting anyone to even look at anything I've written these last six months here on the project. This is an experience shared by [[User:Tduk]]. There were a few successful publications during that time. But lets be real. Wikinews is a failed experiment. The Wikimedia Foundation doesn't want to pay for the server costs to host this project. They want to focus on Wikipedia. I thought I could help get things moving in the right direction and help save the project from closure, but the truth is I simply overestimated this project abd overestimated what I was able to realistically do. Adderall is one hell of a drug. Anyway, for what its worth, I did deeply care about this project, I thought the concept was so cool, I guess some things just dont work in practice. That pretty much sums it up, let me know if you have any further questions. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:47, 4 April 2026 (UTC) == Just a check-in == ....the India article? Still reviewing that one? Didn't want to mess with it if you are.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:58, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == Please don't bite my head off == Just a heads up Im starting a Miraheze here about English Wikinews, thanks. https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/78142 Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:54, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I'm not going to bite your head off haha. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:09, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::thnx Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:12, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::I guess pinging is getting me in trouble with some people so I'll make it quick, https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::Someone will need to discuss and decide on new name. I asked whether trademarked word 'Wikinews' can be used, and have not got an answer to that, yet. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:32, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == Negativity == You've been a pretty solid contributor and I hope that you don't let the negativity and hypocrisy surrounding this site get to you too much. At least, I've noted how you've been trying to move things more than many others here. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 02:14, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :It's fine. Don't worry. I kind of knew this project was a dead end job and wasn't really worth the effort I was putting in trying to save it. I just kept getting sucked back in every time I tried to quit, so in a way I'm kind of glad the project is closing. It was probably going to devolve to a thing where I assumed most of the workload while the more experienced editors scaled back their involvement with the project, per tradition. Oh well. When one door closes, another one opens. I try to remember [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Lofi_Gurl#En.wn this conversation] when I feel shitty regarding my contributions to this project. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:20, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::I've still got one fresh and one fresh-ish (thanks to you know who) article pending review if you get inspired to try to do something. The most recent one has some pretty unique original reporting in my opinion. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:20, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have nothing left to give this project, unfortunately. Those messages that admin left us, then bailing on the project completely... Lets just say that if I had a single shit left to give, it is definitely gone now. I might still take a look at the article but I cant promise anything. I'm completely demoralized. Do you contribute at English Wikipedia and/or Wikiquote? Thats where you will usually find me moving forward. Let me know if I can be of any assistance on those projects. :::RIP Wikinews, let the record show I believed in you up until the end. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:35, 4 April 2026 (UTC) ::::Yes, I'm a long time contributor to other wiki projects, in fact I'm seen you editing some metal pages that are on my watchlist! I was asked to come on here last year to see if I could do anything to make it start to function, but you saw how that went. Anyway it's up to you if you want to review those articles, I'm not expecting anything. I think there are other things going on here. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 00:17, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Interested? == I created a news wiki on Fandom, i have one contributor so far. Please let me know it could use your help! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:15, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:16, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :Sure, why not. I created an account and tried to create a discussion post, but it says I have to have an account for four days before I can contribute. Here's the story I was trying to share: [https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/atlanta-gucci-mane-kidnapped-robbed-dallas-pooh-shiesty-big30/] [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:24, 4 April 2026 (UTC) ::OK cool, could you please create a userpage like on Wikinews? Also, I don't know what that glitch could be on the article creation? For now, I will start the article if you're ok with that? Thanks a million! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:39, 4 April 2026 (UTC) ::On my end it says you have not registered (joined). Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:42, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :::Unlike Wikinews Fandom needs you to have a email address. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:05, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/Gucci_Mane_kidnapped,_robbed_at_gunpoint_in_Dallas ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:20, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :::I confirmed my email address so I don't know why it won't let me. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:34, 5 April 2026 (UTC) 7fecw07wx1i4ff2emr3h3octapnjmc5 5005093 5005088 2026-04-05T15:11:48Z Lofi Gurl 2885970 /* Negativity */ Reply 5005093 wikitext text/x-wiki {{retired}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 00:40, 6 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Court ruling upholds TikTok ban unless ByteDance sells stake]] == Hi, @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] published the story. Congratulations. Please review the article history and talk page for feedback from the reviewer. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Suspect in shooting death of UnitedHealthcare CEO fled New York City by bus, police say]] == Hi, I published the story. Congratulations. 🎉 Please review the article history and talk page for feedback. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:33, 7 December 2024 (UTC) :thanks!! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:35, 7 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Manslaughter charges against Daniel Perry dismissed following jury deadlock]] == Published. :-) Please read notes on the talk page. Have a great day. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:51, 7 December 2024 (UTC) == Re: cathedral re-opening == Hello, Published. :-) Please check notes on the article talk page. A copy is included below for your reference: ---- There are important, but not critically essential details missing, for example: * time of day in local time and UTC * that they planned to do speech outdoors but did it indoors because of a storm * (is it needed to write '2024' in first paragraph as we already have publish date further up the page) I could not verify one part: * Sunday 'morning' mass (source 1 says Sunday, source 2 does not say, or something) -- replaced 'Sunday morning' with 'Sunday' The above items can be addressed within 24 hours after publication. The image credit was missing and I added it as a minor edit as a part of the review process. It is required due to the licence requirements. I recommend the author to also become involved in editing others' submissions -- those of them that are newsworthy, at least -- in the [[Newsroom]], if desired. This may help improve their quality and their chances of publication, and provide experience with proofreading and fact checking in addition to writing and authoring efforts. Thank you and keep up the great work. ---- Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:59, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == Pace == Hi Lofi Gurl, there are not many reviewers available, and I think the current queue may take a couple days to be processed. (I am mostly outdoors and away on weekend.) My apologies, and thank you for reading and writing entertaining and specific stories. :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:06, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :No problem, take your time and enjoy your weekend! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:08, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == Revisit articles in review queue == While waiting for articles I've authored to be reviewed, I often revisit them as long as they aren't under review and 'tighten' them up by making sure they conform to the style guide, that facts are correct, I've chosen good images with useful descriptions (and attributed every image), etc. I see that there are style issues in some of your articles currently awaiting review. Please see what you can do to help make the review of these articles easier/quicker. Consider using {{tl|verify}} to point to exactly what source is used for all information so reviewers who verify information can find it easier. This helps tremendously. Thanks. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 15:53, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :Are you able to specify the style issues present in the article as a reviewer, or is it my job to figure that out as the reporter? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:59, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :I haven't checked the article talk pages yet so sorry if this ends up being a pointless question [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:00, 8 December 2024 (UTC) ::It is the author's responsibility to know our policies and guidelilnes, to include the [[WN:Style|style guide]]. Reviewers can and often do correct style issues before publishing but they are not required to. It takes more of a reviewers time to correct for style along with everything else they must check before publishing. See [[Wikinews:Reviewing articles]] to understand all the work that goes into reviewing an article. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 14:24, 9 December 2024 (UTC) == Great job == You are doing a great job here thank you. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:25, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :Thank you, friend! :[[File:Red Wine Toast GIF Animation.gif]] [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == I have a question! == {{tl|helpme}} Say an articles goes stale, or fails review for whatever reason. Am I allowed to splice old material and sources from "rejected" articles and use them in future articles, so long as the subject of the article stays fresh, and new developments keep coming in? Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:36, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :Yes, that's fine. They are released under the creative commons licence indicated in the footer, and you can reuse them at any news articles here or any other place where the licence of content is compatible. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:54, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Impeachment of South Korean president Yoon Suk Yeol fails]] == Hi Lofi Gurl :-) Could you please [[WN:Attribution|attribute]] the "''Political unrest and nationwide protests were expected in response to the axing of the impeachment.''" sentence? Who said this? This would help the sentence to not read as a speculation made on behalf of ''Wikinews''. Let me know if you have any questions, I am happy to help. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:53, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :From the Associated Press article: :{{quote|The vote’s defeat is likely to fuel nationwide protests and escalate political turmoil, and opposition parties could introduce a new impeachment motion when parliament reconvenes next Wednesday.}} [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:56, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :This is amazing: :* [[South Korean Constitutional Court upholds impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol]] :Thank you so much for writing about this topic. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:15, 10 April 2025 (UTC) ::Pretty cool we have four articles of coverage spanning the scandal from start to finish! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:02, 11 April 2025 (UTC) == Wizard of oz slippers story == Hi Lofi Gurl * Missing currency, both in first paragraph and in headline? * Missing specified location where the auction took place. Hope you can assist. Let me know if any questions. Thank you. :-) Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:09, 9 December 2024 (UTC) :I've found the location and left a note about it at the article talk page. I cannot add it and remain available to review. Could you please check and make the edit? Thank you!!! Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:13, 9 December 2024 (UTC) ::I went to sleep before seeing all these. I'm so sorry! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:20, 9 December 2024 (UTC) :::Hi [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] :-) :::What is your time zone? :::Do you receive notifications in right top corner of the page while you are logged in? :::Please note on talk page of the slippers story there is a new message "''@Michael.C.Wright - You can add it and I can review? Please confirm within the next hour, or @Lofi Gurl please add it within next hour. Failing that, I'll add it myself and will require another reviewer to publish. Thanks.''" :::Have a great day. :::Thanks, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:25, 9 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Yeah, and I need to get better at clearing my inbox, apparently. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:44, 9 December 2024 (UTC) :::::I'm eastern standard time I think. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:38, 10 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Left you a '''[[Talk:Slippers_worn_by_American_actress_Judy_Garland_in_1939_film_The_Wizard_of_Oz_break_sales_record,_sold_for_US$28_million_at_auction#Why_the_slippers_were_so_expensive|new message]]''' Hope it helps :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:25, 10 December 2024 (UTC) :::::[[Slippers worn by American actress Judy Garland in 1939 film The Wizard of Oz break sales record, sold for US$28 million at auction]] now published, congratulations. :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:14, 10 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::thank you :) [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:21, 10 December 2024 (UTC) == Coffee::Who == Hi Lofi Gurl, I've left you a new message '''[[Talk:Coffee_prices_surge_to_record_highs_due_to_droughts_in_Brazil,_Vietnam#Who|here]]'''. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:31, 11 December 2024 (UTC) :added a new message now again [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:10, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == Chess article == Please see the talk page at that article.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:44, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == damascus story == i made a few edits. in one sentence needs clarification, i marked it in bold. please check? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:03, 13 December 2024 (UTC) :Hi!! To answer the quesion/comment/footnote you left in the article -- I found a mention of "Saydnaya prison complex" in the BBC source but they don't specify if that was the prison Timmerman escaped from. It was just mentioned that {{w|the White Helmets}} were storming looking for survivors. Hope this helps! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:43, 13 December 2024 (UTC) :Also, I think he left prison the same day the city fell on Monday, which was mentioned in the second paragraph. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:49, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == minor edit & thanks == hi, i have rejected [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Indian_chess_grandmaster_Gukesh_Dommaraju,_18,_becomes_youngest_world_chess_champion_of_all_time&diff=4809824&oldid=prev&unhide=1 this edit] as this wikilink was already included in a previous paragraph. please let me know if i am incorrect! thanks for the other edits to the story. they have made it so much nicer and are timely. i appreciate it and approved the other edits. have a great day, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:45, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :oops didn't see the other link, thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 08:47, 14 December 2024 (UTC) == Edits after publication == Please note that our [[WN:Archive]] conventions generally prevent edits to articles 24 hours after publication. Articles are meant to be a snapshot in time. Edits within the 24 hours after publication should be limited to only correcting any errors not caught in the review process. It is better to have an article fully button-down and ready for publication before requesting review. You are more than welcome, even encouraged to help improve other articles. But please focus that energy on articles in the developing queue and review queue unless the article is actively ''under'' review. That way we catch more errors before review and definitely before publication. Thanks again for joining and contributing! I can't remember the last time I saw ten articles in the review queue. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 16:46, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :[[image:Symbol thumbs up green.png]] [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC) == Requested article == hey, {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} https://abc3340.com/news/local/alabama-talladega-county-sheriffs-office I added this story to requested articles but im not up to starting the article myself... If you can do anything for this would be helpful? Thanks! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :Hi, I'm happy to start articles you bring to me, I'm just not sure this story meets the site's notability guidelines.. I'd have to double check though. Thank you though [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:02, 14 December 2024 (UTC) ::It does and is '''developing''', not much data so far I suppose.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC) ::We also need a second source. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :::we'll play it by ear. This South Korea story is taking way longer than I thought [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:20, 14 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Let's please focus on it being published! My request can always wait, thanks. {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:22, 14 December 2024 (UTC) == please vote == Hi Lofi Gurl :-) '''[[Wikinews:Requests_for_permissions|This page]]''' has a handful of requests open. Could you please cast a vote and/or add a comment, ideally for each of them, at your earliest convenience? Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:19, 15 December 2024 (UTC) == hi here is a news tip about malware == https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ultralytics-ai-model-hijacked-to-infect-thousands-with-cryptominer/ -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:04, 16 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Hundreds of North Korean troops killed fighting Ukrainian forces in Russia]] == Hi. Please see my not-ready review comments on the talk page. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 22:19, 19 December 2024 (UTC) == Why? == Are you making more work for editors? Im not angry just confused.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:50, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :I don't know what you're talking about? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:58, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::You keep abandoning articles mostly you created, why? {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:00, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :What specifically do you mean "making more work for editors"? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:59, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::more work to clean up after you... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:01, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::I'd just delete them if I was able to. Why are you mad? I'm abandoning the articles. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:02, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::not mad, just confused.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::You were acting fine before, what happened? {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::Stop "RIPing" because it's seen as disruptive behavior, sorry but it seems like it. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::That's fine I'm done writing here anyway. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::::Suit yourself..... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::::Then what was your point? Wasting peoples' time? Sad sorry. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::I'm genuinely confused now. What do you mean "wasting peoples time"? What are you talking about? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:08, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::::::The project is to work together with one another not to abandon because theres not much activity right now. I won't argue with you anymore.. Sorry... {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:14, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::::::: '''I didn't do anything wrong.''' [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:16, 20 December 2024 (UTC) == En.wn == Hi. Thanks for, well, contributing here, I guess. So really, if you want to write fast and write prolifically, maybe Wikipedia is a better fit for you than en.wn in its present state. The project couldn't handle a mass influx of even people highly skilled at writing for it (overwhelms the review process, reporters get demoralized). I'm tempted to say that you overestimated the project and what you could do, but that sounds wrong. I don't know why I'm saying all this. You probably already know it. Of what's left, we are overwhelmingly nice people, for what it's worth, and care deeply about en.wn. Just don't, I guess, overinvest yourself in it. One of our colleagues here likes to say "don't get married to your article", so perhaps likewise with the concept and future of the project. Then again, a late editor literally saw himself as embarking on a mission to save human civilization from intellectual ruin and mundanity by making something great out of this project. But he was executing a long term plan, that did transform the project. I don't know what this sounds like. I hope it doesn't sound condescending. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 06:27, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :Just to let both of you know I wasn't trying to attack {{ping|Lofi Gurl}}. {{Ping|Heavy Water}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 13:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :Thanks for taking the time to write this (it didn't come off as condescending). I'll keep it in mind while contributing to the project in the future. Sorry for taking a few days to reply. Been trying to limit internet time. Have a good rest of your weekend! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 05:31, 22 December 2024 (UTC) == Lofi Gurl == I was really being a dink to you, apologies. Feel free to continue to write articles here! {{Ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC) :Consider it forgiven. It happens. Onward! [[file:FPClogogif.gif]] [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC) ::Thank you for creating new news articles you go as fast as you please {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:01, 22 December 2024 (UTC) :::I'm trying to slow down and try to average maybe three per week. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Please write as much as you like and thanks {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:05, 22 December 2024 (UTC) == Welcome back == [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:45, 30 January 2025 (UTC) :Good to be back. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:47, 30 January 2025 (UTC) ::😊 [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:47, 30 January 2025 (UTC) ::Welcome back Lofi Gurl [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:58, 12 February 2025 (UTC) :::thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 08:16, 12 February 2025 (UTC) == Crash Philadelphia story == Hi I copyedited some misspelled words for the article. Hope your well, thanks. {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:51, 2 February 2025 (UTC) :thanks. I'm on my mom's laptop at the moment and she has her shit set up weird, and I can't spellcheck very easily at all right now. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:57, 2 February 2025 (UTC) ::It's ok, do your best. {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:14, 2 February 2025 (UTC) == Paywalled == Can't you work around it? {{Ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:10, 12 March 2025 (UTC) :It's gonna be easier to rewrite the entire article at this point, with like 2-3 sources. The project just kept getting bigger and bigger and I shot myself in the foot (or gave my foot the firing squad, if you will). Using this article's content for Wikipedia. Going to focus on my WashingtonDC/suicide/cop article I have started here. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:19, 12 March 2025 (UTC) == Re: revitalising Wikinews == Hi, I'm reaching out to you as you indicated support for revitalising Wikinews. Here are a few ways to help out, in no particular order: # write new articles by [[WN:SG|style guide]] and [[WN:CG|content guide]] # find news which happened today and share it on [[WN:IRC|live chat]] or [[WN:REQ|a news tip page]] # read drafts in [[Newsroom]], especially those submitted for review, and edit them to make them more comprehensive or more current # read drafts in [[Newsroom]], especially those that failed review recently, and address reviewer's comments quickly and re-submit for review # chat with new authors (of articles in Newsroom) and help them understand the key concepts # subscribe at [[Wikinews:Water cooler]] (there are 5 subforums, open each and click 'Subscribe' link at top - then keep a close eye on your Echo notifications) to help newcomers and help with editing articles when someone requests assistance # chat on [[WN:IRC|live chat]] and help newcomers and reviewers with their review process # help with software development for authoring or reviewing articles, perhaps for the mobile platforms # chat with other contributors on audio or video chat # present notes about how Wikinews works at various conferences via audio and video communucations [as we don't have funds for travel at present] this can be linux, programming, journalistical, or wikimedia themed conferences # figure out how to get someone to do any of the above through a grant, sometimes google summer of code # find high school and university educators who would like to teach their class journalism by asking them to write articles for Wikinews (was done with [[Category:UoW|University of Wollongong]] in the past, and we have extension installed for marking students) # collaborate with [[User:Pharos|Pharos]] on getting more news coverage of the New York City and adjacent areas # proofread, or read, Wikinews articles out loud for Audio Wikinews # make English Wikinews accounts on various social media like twitter, facebook, blue sky app (sp?), others [in consultation with someone on-wiki first] ensuring you're posting new news articles there with appropriate tags, moderate comments, and setup multiple moderators if possible and document which contributor is in charge of which social network account for Wikinews and how articles are being posted there Please let me know which of these points you're most comfortable with, and/or would like to learn. '''''Which points would you like to contribute?''''' Please name up to 3-5 points, if you like. Or suggest your own. :-) I'm happy to connect with you and guide you in any of the above areas. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:54, 16 March 2025 (UTC) :I like alot of these! :#7. I've been meaning to start using IRC for a while. Maybe today's the day. :#8. Not sure what I can do to help with software development but I have a bunch of friends who know code. :#12. I know a few university professors in the history field. :#14. I've never heard of Audio Wikinews. Sounds self-explanatory. How many articles have audio with them? :Thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:02, 17 March 2025 (UTC) == This is terribly overdue! == {|style="border: 8px solid gray; background-color: #fdff7;" |rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[Image:Pencil tip closeup 2.JPG|160px]] |rowspan="2" | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 2; vertical-align: middle; height: .4em;" | '''The Order of the Humble Pencil''' <br> For completing ''5 edits''. |- |style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Great work! Keep it up! --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:12, 17 March 2025 (UTC) |} == Stuff == Some of your (recent) contributions have gone stale. Sorry -- keep at it!!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:27, 18 March 2025 (UTC) == Darn it! == That execution article ROCKED! Is there a snowball's change you could gatwick it? I'll help -- for realz!!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:39, 18 March 2025 (UTC) :Thanks for the kind words! I don't think I can gatwick it -- it went stale on Friday, and there have not been any new developments that I'm aware of. I shot myself in the foot by relying too heavily on a source that I later discovered had an apparent paywall (only the first two days were free I guess). On the bright side, I was able to use alot of it for the Wikipedia article, but I wish I could have gotten it published here! It would have been a good one. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:49, 19 March 2025 (UTC) == You ok??? == Hope your good???? {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:01, 25 March 2025 (UTC) :I've been borderline kind of freaking out lately. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:38, 25 March 2025 (UTC) ::Well, take a few breaths -- back up -- '''re-calibrate the mechanism''' -- and come back soon!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 12:31, 1 April 2025 (UTC) == You've AT LEAST earned this!! == [[File:Wikinews WikiNoob.png|210px|left|This [[Wikinews:Contributing Reporter Awards|award]] is presented to new reporters who have started 10 or fewer news articles.]] Keep at it!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 12:33, 1 April 2025 (UTC) :Ahh thank you!! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:08, 1 April 2025 (UTC) :congrats [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:57, 6 April 2025 (UTC) ::thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 12:58, 6 April 2025 (UTC) == Articles == Your clogging up the queue, please resort to 1 possibly 2 articles at a time. I don't want to see you blocked..... Many of your articles will most likely go stale, or you will abandon them. Sorry for so harsh but its facts... @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:19, 14 April 2025 (UTC) :I've also put a good amount of effort into helping your articles.... Your stressing me out badly.... @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:21, 14 April 2025 (UTC) ::Will you please stop needlessly punctuating ''every sentence'' with "..........."? Because it comes off as needlessly shitty to everyone you talk to and that really isn't something I need to be dealing with. No matter the topic it just sets a negative tone right off the bat. Sorry, "but it's facts." [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:28, 14 April 2025 (UTC) :Coming from a user who constantly abandons articles lol [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:22, 14 April 2025 (UTC) ::It's not funny brah, i should report you! But i wont, your harassing me and wikinews!!! °½<½½½<<½½½;½½ @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:32, 14 April 2025 (UTC) ::your a sock or troll.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:33, 14 April 2025 (UTC) :I found these stubs useful and was pleased. Expanded one yesterday. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:17, 14 April 2025 (UTC) == Interest in notifications for new drafts == Hi Lofi Gurl I'd like to invite you to edit drafts created by other contributors to improve their quality and reduce reviewer load on them, so that more reviewers can review articles written by you. Would you be interested in notifications of the current drafts in the Newsroom, compiled with a note of what the event date and link to article? I can make something like [[User:Gryllida/Newsroom]]. If you're interested, would you like to get notified when article '''is created as a new draft''' ([[:Category:Developing]]) or when it is '''submitted for review''' ([[:Category:Review]])? Many thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:12, 15 April 2025 (UTC) :Yes, I would love that. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:16, 15 April 2025 (UTC) ::Awesome thanks. Which option would you prefer, articles created in Developing or in Review category? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:28, 15 April 2025 (UTC) :::Definitely developing. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:29, 15 April 2025 (UTC) ::::Would you like to get notifications 'instantly' for each new draft, or weekly? ::::Would you be OK if these notifications were delivered to your personal talk page? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:35, 15 April 2025 (UTC) :::::Instantly would be great. Yeah, my talk page would be fine starting out, but if we could find a way for them to only show up in my notifications inbox, that would be good too. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:50, 15 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::great thanks i will try to figure out how to make this work [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:55, 16 April 2025 (UTC) ::May I ask about your devices: how many, what OS, have you used an RSS feed reader before? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:08, 16 April 2025 (UTC) :::I mainly edit on my laptop using Windows 10. No I've never used an RSS feed reader before. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:20, 16 April 2025 (UTC) == idaho police story == published after an edit to write in active voice, great writeup thanks heaps [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:54, 16 April 2025 (UTC) == Don't edit my articles == Thanks [[Special:Contributions/64.39.81.71|64.39.81.71]] ([[User talk:64.39.81.71|talk]]) 17:11, 17 April 2025 (UTC) @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] :Why not? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:34, 17 April 2025 (UTC) ::Sorry got ahead of myself [[Special:Contributions/64.39.81.71|64.39.81.71]] ([[User talk:64.39.81.71|talk]]) 18:32, 17 April 2025 (UTC) :Anyone can edit anyone's article. This is not bbc nor a blog. Articles belong to Wikinews, not to individual authors. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:51, 17 April 2025 (UTC) == [[Suspect taken into custody and charged after Pennsylvania governor Josh Shapiro is forced to evacuate gubernatorial mansion with family following suspected arson attack]][ == is there a court date scheduled for this? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:37, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :Ill look into it when i ge5 home [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:54, 20 April 2025 (UTC) == Hello == I just wanted to say hi. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:57, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :Hey BigKrow! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:47, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::I seem to have an imposter, a pain in my side, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], @[[User:BigKrow2|BigKrow2]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:49, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::Also @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], @[[User:Gryllida2|Gryllida2]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:50, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], notified. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:50, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::I really hope this is just some random child that doesn't know the actual severity of what they're doing here. But that is clearly someone who has been kicked from the project multiple times. Just ignore the humanoid. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:58, 20 April 2025 (UTC) == BigKrow2 == Please tell me your really not me @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], I wouldn't be superised. Also @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] and @[[User:Gryllida2|Gryllida2]] @[[User:MeDaWikipedian|MeDaWikipedian]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:03, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :You're accusing me of being that guy who impersonated Bddpaux last year? Is that what you're saying? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:06, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::Honestly I think you are. Trying to sneak back in .... @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:08, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::Why? What basis do you have for that? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:09, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :That shit happened before I created my account, but I saw it happen. Is every new user here going to be accused of being that person then? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:08, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::Prove your innocence then, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:10, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::How? You have to open a sockpuppet investigation into me I guess. Why are you making baseless accusations? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:12, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::I'm just checking but you might be a sock puppet account you changed the article fucks to some other story suspicious. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:13, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::Why is that suspicious? I turned a vandalism article into a stub. You're being silly. Your baseless accusations are disruptive. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:20, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::Prove your innocence, @[[User:MeDaWikipedian|MeDaWikipedian]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:21, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:22, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::Once again -- ''how?'' [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:22, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::I can't check user you right now but, I'm always watching you.... @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:24, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::::Why? Why do you think I am this user? Why do you want to checkuser me? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:30, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::::I have my suspicions. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:33, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::::::So it's just conjecture? I'm not Me Da Wikipedian. Why are you suspecting me of sockpuppetry? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:40, 20 April 2025 (UTC) == I suffer from bad mental health issues == I know my behavior has been negative to you, so by taking responsibility for my words towards you, I just don't want to be blocked from editing Wiki news. And thinking you are a sock is wrong of me. Lofi Gurl you don't have to accept my apology but I do hope you understand where I'm coming from about my mental health. Thank you for listening. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:14, 21 April 2025 (UTC) :Okay? I am never afforded understanding or forgiveness when my mental health issues cause problems in relationships. I'm just frankly tired of this crap. Youve been making me not want to log in [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:18, 21 April 2025 (UTC) ::You can only make your own decisions, I say you keep working get past this and move forward @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:29, 21 April 2025 (UTC) :::Agreed. This was a waste of time. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:17, 21 April 2025 (UTC) == Thank you for not retiring == Thank you for sticking around! Your well needed here. Thanks. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:24, 22 April 2025 (UTC) :🙂🥳👍⚡️ [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 17:22, 22 April 2025 (UTC) == Sources fill ✍️ == Hi, at my personal talk page at Wikipedia there is a user script, which may be copy pasted to [[Special:MyPage/common.js]], that adds a new button in the editor: it prompts for an URL, generates a filled source template for it, and copies it to clipboard. It reliably inserts the source title at least 🤣 In many, but not all, cases it also gets the publisher and date -- though not always in the right "April 22, 2025" format -- properly, too. Then, if in the visual editing mode, I double click the pasted source to fix if needed. Perhaps this could help you save time. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 17:45, 22 April 2025 (UTC) :Yes I was actually going to ask if we could program something like that, because en.wp has it. Thank you! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:59, 22 April 2025 (UTC) ::Is it working for you? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:31, 4 May 2025 (UTC) :::Do you have a link to the script? I tried to access the script from your Wikipedia talk page from the section titled "Script" but it just lead me to a deleted page. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:36, 4 May 2025 (UTC) ::::[[User:Gryllida/common.js]] -> ::::<pre>importScript('User:Gryllida/js/add-source-in-visual-editor.js');</pre> ::::[[User:Gryllida/js/add-source-in-visual-editor.js]] ::::Works in 'Source editing' mode if it is the same toolbar as Visual Editor. ::::It adds a star icon. Clicking it prompts for the news URL, and then a few seconds alter it adds the filled source template at cursor position. ::::Note that date may be missing. Authors usually are missing. Publisher name isn't always correct (needs to be such that you can wikilink to wikipedia). So you need to check what it generated. But at least it gets title and date right 90% of the time for me and it makes writing easier. ::::Hope it helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 06:11, 4 May 2025 (UTC) == Minor edit urgent please? == Hi Lofi Gurl I think it is best of someone adds a source and attribution about the '51' number of injuries. The article was already published, so this needs to be done immediately, so that the approval of the edit can be done within less than 24 hours. Please see [[Talk:Kamikaze_drone_attacks_bus_near_Dnipropetrovsk,_Ukraine,_allegedly_war_crime|this page]] for more details. BigKrow refused to do it, now I have the request for your help as my last hope. Looks like nobody else currently active at the wiki this weekend. Thanks heaps, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:54, 25 April 2025 (UTC) :Hey! Let me know what you think of my revision. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:56, 25 April 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you for the edit. ::If you click the image of the bus, in description, it links to a few sources. One of them is a telegram post by someone, possibly military official from Ukraine. I think it could be added as source and in article text the '51' figure could be attributed to that source specifying their name and whatever role is associated with their nick in telegram. If you can do this soon, I can approve it. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:31, 26 April 2025 (UTC) == Saying hi == @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], how are you? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:05, 2 May 2025 (UTC) :Taking it one day at a time. Thanks for asking. How are you doing friend? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:15, 2 May 2025 (UTC) ::I'm living heh, glad to hear your doing okay. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:17, 2 May 2025 (UTC) == Yo BigKrow == @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] Can I ask a favor? Can you go on the Lady Gaga article and fill out the sources, and then submit for a review? I'm heading into the city to attend a concert at the moment. Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:49, 10 May 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], I got you! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:16, 11 May 2025 (UTC) == How are you? == @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:47, 11 May 2025 (UTC) :Kinda hungover. Didnt get great sleep last night. Slept in my car because I didnt want to risk a DUI after the concert. Im excited to hopefully feel better tomorrow. How are you? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:16, 11 May 2025 (UTC) ::Well I'm here for you my friend. I'm doing alright. Take it easy! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:40, 12 May 2025 (UTC) :::Appreciate it! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:50, 12 May 2025 (UTC) == You ok? == @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:15, 14 May 2025 (UTC) :yeah, i'm fine. thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:28, 15 May 2025 (UTC) == Hi, how do you read me == Hi, I included you at your request into the "pingrr" list recently. You'd've received a few dozens of "RR" echo notifications in the last two weeks. Did they arrive? Could you please tell me what is preventing you from responding to them? Revision requests are an essential part of the collaboration process, and your participation is vitally important. Please provide me with the feedback, it would help me a lot with making this process more efficient and easier for you to use. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:24, 18 May 2025 (UTC) :Sorry, its currently busy season at work. I work in lawn care. I try to make revisions when I can, and I certainly respond more than at least 80% of the people who are pinged. Im sorry my volunteer time is limited at the moment. Several of my articles went stale waiting for review priod to my involuntary wikibreak. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:13, 18 May 2025 (UTC) ::No problem. I just wanted to check the setup is working. Ping me if you have a news story in mind but no time to write of it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:26, 19 May 2025 (UTC) == Top article in April! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Original author for the top article published in April, 2025. The article has at least 1,754 views, the highest for year so far!]] Thank you for starting the article titled "[[Streaming platform Twitch bans rapper Kanye West seven minutes into first stream for performing "Nazi salute"]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in April of 2025, and the highest so far of 2025! Bam! 💥 {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image--> As the original author, you can also use the following userbox on your user page: {{userbox | id = [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025-mini.png|40px]] | info = ''This user was the original author of the [[Wikinews:2025 Boost publication rate/Monthly top article|top article]] for April, 2025'' | border-s = 1 }} {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image--> Thank you for your continued efforts at not only starting new articles but contributing to others as well. Your collaborative efforts are greatly appreciated. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:54, 20 May 2025 (UTC) :Awesome! I can't wait to get back to writing. I have some merciless "{{w|adulting}}" to attend to in my personal life at the moment. When I'm back writing, you'll all know it. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:52, 20 May 2025 (UTC) ::Totally understand. Take care of what you need to, and we’ll be glad to see you back when the time’s right. Looking forward to it! —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:55, 20 May 2025 (UTC) == Come back please == Wikinews needs you, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 15:47, 15 June 2025 (UTC) :Hey. I heard about what's going on. Im going to try to find some free time this week to get some articles written to try to help save the project. Sorry for the radio silence [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:20, 29 June 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], thanks for sticking around! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:28, 29 June 2025 (UTC) == Your stories are stale == Sorry, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:09, 29 June 2025 (UTC) :Are you sure? The gambling story happened Friday and the Beyonce story happened last night, from what I can tell. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:14, 29 June 2025 (UTC) ::You need stories to be '''"fresh"''' even a day old is stale. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:19, 29 June 2025 (UTC) :::Ideally yeah, but it's not stale until seven days have passed since the focal point of the story. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:14, 29 June 2025 (UTC) ::::Ok [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:20, 29 June 2025 (UTC) == Hello from Gryllida == Hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Would you be interested in joining as a reviewer? If you were, I or another reviewer of your interest would be doing it together with you for the first several months to assist. Similarly, would you be interested in helping with page deletions and blocking users, and removing vandalism. Is this something you have done before and do you have an interest? Are there any changes to the workflow that you would consider helpful? Are you on any IM platform such as Discord, Linphone (SIP), Matrix, where we could exchange messages, screenshots, and sometimes audio calls? Regards, - [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:04, 8 July 2025 (UTC) :Hey! That sounds like a good offer. Definitely curious to see what I can bring as a reviewer. I have no expirience blocking users or deleting pages. Give me a few days to sleep on it. Thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:02, 9 July 2025 (UTC) ::Hey Lofi Gurl, and are you on any of the IM platforms? Maybe Telegram? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 17:53, 6 August 2025 (UTC) :::I plan on creating a discord account for my Wiki stuff. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:07, 6 August 2025 (UTC) ::::any luck? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:48, 14 January 2026 (UTC) == Community response to SPTF's recommendation to close ''Wikinews'' == The Wikimedia Foundation’s Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF) has issued a [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|recommendation to close Wikinews]]. A community response to the Task Force is underway and I believe it's critical that we show clear support from contributors, reviewers, and administrators if we want Wikinews to remain open. If you believe Wikinews still has potential for revitalization and should remain active, I ask that you: * Review and help improve the draft community response, and/or * Add your endorsement once you're comfortable with the language The goal is to finalize the draft before the [[m:Event:Community_consultation_on_Wikispore/Wikinews,_call_1|July 16 Task Force call]], so our response is ready for consideration. You can find the draft here: 👉 [[Wikinews:Response to Proposal for Closing Wikinews]] Thanks for considering. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:49, 11 July 2025 (UTC) == Thank you my friend! == Good work on la explosion [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:12, 18 July 2025 (UTC) @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] :Thanks for bringing the story! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:13, 18 July 2025 (UTC) ::We need to block those ips. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:41, 18 July 2025 (UTC) :::I reported them, all I can do. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:47, 18 July 2025 (UTC) ::::I know.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:47, 18 July 2025 (UTC) == Nigerian abductors article == If you can find an image to add (even just a file photo or whatever) -- I think we might be able to get that one published. It could use ''maybe'' one more sentence while you're at it too?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:39, 29 July 2025 (UTC) :Yeah I'll take a look at it. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:44, 30 July 2025 (UTC) == Top article in July! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in July, 2025. The article has at least 3,583 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[20-year-old astrophotographer captures rare solar eclipse on Saturn]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in July of 2025. This is your second barn star for top article! Thanks for your continued, hard work! {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image-->[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:35, 4 August 2025 (UTC) == [[Talk:Several people hospitalized after thousands of hotdogs spill following collision on interstate in Pennsylvania]] == i published article, please check talk page for feedback thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 17:51, 6 August 2025 (UTC) == Live chat software trial == Live chat software trial (August-September 2025) Hi, i am running a software to make live chat easier to use. It requires installation of QuasselDroid on Android, Quassel Client on Windows or Mac or Linux, and I don't know what on iOS (let me know if this is your main platform). The software would connect you to the official IRC channel for Wikinews and stay connected including all chat history, including when you closed the app. I am achieving this by hosting it on my Quassel Core on my server. If you are interested in trying this option, please install the Quassel Client software, and after this is done (not before), ensure you have a working email in your [[Special:Preferences]] so i can email you login credentials, and specify your desired IRC nickname. Please note this is open source software with low bandwidth usage and the communication is only via text, so it is not privacy invasive. This platform is older than the web, irc existed since 1980s. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:03, 7 August 2025 (UTC) :Hi, please install the Quassel Client, it is free/open source, low bandwidth, low RAM and CPU usage :and tell me your desired nickname :I would greatly appreciated if you could use it for a few weeks and then leave me some feedback. This chat platform has 3 reviewers on it, and yourself being sitting in chat all 24/7 via this software could make collaboration much easier as then others could send messages to the group while your device is offline, and you could get notifications on mobile. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:07, 10 August 2025 (UTC) ::I will install this when I get home from the city today. Thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:40, 10 August 2025 (UTC) :::👍 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:42, 10 August 2025 (UTC) ::::I got them downloaded for both Windows and Android. My name can just be Lofi Gurl on there. Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:03, 10 August 2025 (UTC) == Train derails article == Sad event. Excellent coverage, though.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:21, 12 August 2025 (UTC) :Thank you. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:15, 12 August 2025 (UTC) == Re: [[EasyJet pilot dismissed after being allegedly spotted naked and intoxicated in 5-star hotel, reports say]] == Hi Lofi Gurl * please refocus on a recent event with [[WN:IP|inverted pyramid]] and re submit @ [[Talk:EasyJet pilot dismissed after being allegedly spotted naked and intoxicated in 5-star hotel, reports say]] Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:19, 19 August 2025 (UTC) == Re: [[Stunt performer set ablaze for cover artwork of Pink Floyd album dies aged 88]] == can you please try to find a photo of the person in 12h to add to story thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:23, 19 August 2025 (UTC) :The only one I have of him is from Wikipedia and it's fair use only. I don't know how to obtain permission to use that here. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:32, 19 August 2025 (UTC) == Thank you!!! == For your help with the church shooting article! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:25, 28 August 2025 (UTC) :No prob! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:06, 28 August 2025 (UTC) == Thank you == For the help on shark story! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:27, 7 September 2025 (UTC) :No, thank you for getting the story! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:33, 7 September 2025 (UTC) == Top article for August! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Original author for the top article published in August, 2025. The article has at least 2,685 views.]] Thank you for starting the article titled "[[Several people hospitalized after thousands of hotdogs spill following collision on interstate in Pennsylvania]]." As of today, the article has the highest number of page-views of all articles published in August of 2025. {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image--> As the original author, you can also use the following userbox on your user page: {{userbox | id = [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025-mini.png|40px]] | info = ''This user was the original author of the [[Wikinews:2025 Boost publication rate/Monthly top article|top article]] for August, 2025'' | border-s = 1 }} {{clear}} Hot diggity dog, you nailed it![[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:30, 14 September 2025 (UTC) :Congrats for your article! Attracting that amount of readers to a story about a local hot dog spill is not small feat. [[User:Dsuke1998AEOS|Dsuke1998]][[Special:Contributions/Dsuke1998AEOS|AEOS]] ('''[[User talk:Dsuke1998AEOS|talk]]''') 01:09, 16 September 2025 (UTC) ::Thanks guys! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 14:58, 16 September 2025 (UTC) == How are you? == hi pal @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:51, 23 September 2025 (UTC) :Im okay. Moving this weekend. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:51, 23 September 2025 (UTC) == Hi friend == How you doing? @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:13, 6 October 2025 (UTC) == Reviewing == Hi - I'm new here, trying to help out (recruited from elsewiki). I see you've been contributing here a while - is it possible you are ready to become a reviewer? Would that interest you? I'm still learning what's going on here. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 21:26, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :I actually have an open request for reviewership open somewhere haha! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:33, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::I'm trying to get some reform going to save this cite, maybe you have some input. I posted at [[Wikinews talk:Newsworthiness]]... [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 22:40, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::Reviewer permission granted. Congratulations, Lofi Gurl! Just reviewing one story a week would be more than sufficient, I think doing more than that is a risk of burnout. Up to you. :) Let me know if any questions. Thanks, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 02:40, 10 October 2025 (UTC) :::This is awesome news! Yeah, one review per week sounds good to me. Thank you! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:03, 10 October 2025 (UTC) :::: Congratulations! I'll help out however I can. My availability will be short and sporadic likely for the next week. But the goal is not to just hand you the reviewer role and let you learn it on your own (that happened to me). :::: First step is ensuring you now see the "Review" action in the top-right of your browser when you view articles in the review queue. Once you click on "Review" for an article, you should now see an interface that allows you to select options via drop-down menus for the five areas we review. All of those drop-downs must be "pass" for the article to pass. Otherwise the gadget will label the article 'not ready.' :::: Have a look at the following for other advice and info: :::: ::::* [[User:Michael.C.Wright/Review process study/Reviewer lane|Michael.C.Wright/Review process study/Reviewer lane]] (brief overview of full, reviewer workflow) ::::* [[Wikinews:Review checklist|Review checklist]] (process of reviewing) ::::* [[Wikinews:Tips on reviewing articles|Tips on reviewing articles]] (old essay representing the intent of the 'modern review process') ::::* [[Wikinews:Publish checklist|Publish checklist]] (additional steps needed once an article passes review) :::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:21, 11 October 2025 (UTC) :::::Congratulations @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] on becoming a new reviewer! I also think new reviewers might benefit from [[Wikinews:Gadgets and Tools/easyPeerReview|documentation on how to use the easyPeerReview]] gadget (this is the gadget that shows the "Review" option in the top-right tools menu and opens the review template with dropdown options). If any reviewer is interested, perhaps a short guide for the gadget would be helpful. Although, I am not sure if there's already any documentation available for the easyPeerReview gadget. [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:07, 11 October 2025 (UTC) :::::: After some digging I found [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Template:Peer_reviewed#Use_.5BUsing_Easy_Peer_Review.5D this] but it could use expanding. That's something I can do, possibly within the next few weeks if someone else doesn't get to it beforehand.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:22, 13 October 2025 (UTC) ::Hey - I saw your post elsewhere where once again you expressed your frustration at what is going on in this site. I'm sorry if my attempts to get _some_ change going in time to make a difference bothered you, and definitely not happy that no change happened and that people obfuscated the issue on the talk page to the point where nothing was clear. That all speaks to the problems here. There is so much disrespect floating around on this site currently, I do tend to think that there isn't much to be done as it is right now. I fully understand your frustration, and seeing it was part of what motivated me to seek change. This site was in a state of emergency and no one acted to fix it. Anyway maybe I'll bump into you on en.wikipedia proper, I'm sure if you want to you'll find something to contribute; or if not there, who knows where else? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:18, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::Thanks for the message. Your efforts did not bother me at all. It wasn't like this when I first joined. Some of my articles would go stale waiting for review, but it was rare. My previous 8-9 articles over the last few months, and not a single one got reviewed. It is what it is. Yeah, you'll probably see me over at the current events articles on ENWP in the future. At least there you can work at your own pace. Why feel pressure to write fresh content if it can't get reviewed on time anyway? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:30, 4 December 2025 (UTC) ::::Exactly - and the fact that no one was doing the reviews certainly puts out the message - whether true or not - that the reviewers care less about this project than the ones submitting the articles. This is made worse by the fact that there may be more reviewers than article contributors at this point. Regardless, we really needed a short term solution here, and no one was interested (actually, some WERE interested, but it got obfuscated away. Some people even claimed you supported the status quo!) So it goes! At least personally I met a few nice wiki folks I would not have found otherwise. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:57, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::::It could be argued that I was more in a position to make an impact here since I was nade reviwer, but truthfully I just dont really know what I'm doing. I definitely didnt support the status quo, I just was not interested in loosening the site's guidelines. I just cant help but wonder how this looks to the outside -- all these articles getting neglected and trashed while dozens are calling for the whole thing to be shut down. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:16, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::::: With EzPR 2025, we can do partial reviews. So you could start a review and when you get to a point where you want help, you can save the partial review and tag another reviewer for a hand (I'd be happy to help). :::::: Also, if the review process is daunting enough to keep you from doing the review, I think it would help everyone if you could articulate what is holding you back. It could be that the same thing is impacting other reviewers and it should therefore be changed. :::::: You have fresh eyes on the review process and may see things differently than those who have done it for some time.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:06, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::That sounds like it might be worth a try. How do I access EzPR 2025? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:44, 5 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::: It should show up in the Tools menu, the same place EzPR shows up (for me, they are stacked on top of each other in the right-hand sidebar). If you view an article [[Raccoon found passed out in liquor store after drunken rampage|marked for review]], you should see "Review (EPRv2)" in your Tools. That's it. :::::::: If you'd like to start with the [[Raccoon found passed out in liquor store after drunken rampage|Racoon story]], I'll step away from it. Initially to me it looks like a relatively solid article and is light-hearted, with little risk of serious ramifications of libel or defamation if we get it wrong (as opposed to an interview with a prominent figure, for example).[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:10, 5 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::::The EzPR 2025 will not show up automatically like the old one. EzPR is enabled by default for all reviewers as a gadget, while EzPR 2025 is not currently a gadget. :::::::::So @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], if you want to use it, let me know and I can enable/install it for you. After that, you will find "Review (EPRv2)" in your Tools menu. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:21, 5 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::::: Ahhh, sorry. I thought it was now in testing by all reviewers.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:22, 5 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::::::I can enable it for all reviewers by default, so they don't have to manually install it. But I chose not to do that initially because it seems a bit bold to me. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:31, 5 December 2025 (UTC) ::::::::: @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], I went ahead and published the raccoon story. But feel free to jump into the next story you feel comfortable with.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:24, 5 December 2025 (UTC) {{outdent|11}}Sometimes bold is good. ツ I think you've been very careful so far and personally trust that you won't blow anything up. But its your call. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:41, 5 December 2025 (UTC) == Top article in September! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in September, 2025. The article has at least 4,083 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[Shark attack kills Australian surfer off Long Reef Beach, Sydney]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in September of 2025. Your name keeps popping up as a contributor or original author in the monthly top article. Thank you for your continued effort! This was also the highest number of page-views yet this year. {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image-->[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:25, 14 October 2025 (UTC) == welcome back == Hi friend glad to have you back @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:01, 19 October 2025 (UTC) :Thanks. Good to finally have internet again. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:10, 19 October 2025 (UTC) == Hello == Saw your story about Sam Rivers. Unfortunately I am away and cannot review until around mid November. Please check [[Newsroom]] and [[WN:IRC|live chat]] to help with editing other reports as this may help publish yours sooner. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:09, 20 October 2025 (UTC) :Heard. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:23, 20 October 2025 (UTC) == Scoop access == As a reviewer, you should have access to Scoop so that you can receive OR material. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] manages the email server and should be able to set up an account for you. If you haven't done so already, you should reach out and request an account. It might be a while before you're comfortable reviewing OR, and that's okay. It is a bit of a different beast. But you should have access to Scoop now so you can see the material and otherwise use it to assist with developing OR and getting it closer to a publishable state.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:22, 21 October 2025 (UTC) :For scoop account username: it is not the same as your wiki login; unfortunately the email server was not setup for OAuth login. Usually, but not always, it's the legal first name and last name, to make the request more professional in the case you might need to contact one of the OR involved parties to confirm some information; one of the reviewers uses just their first name only for the username and one used their wiki nick. '''Please tell me what username for scoop email you would like.''' Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:51, 21 October 2025 (UTC) == Using EasyPeerReview == Hey there, I finally got around to starting a help page for EasyPeerReview at [[Help:EasyPeerReview]]. Verify you have access to EzPR (you see the Review link in Actions when viewing an article marked with {{tl|Review}}) and have a look at the help page. Let me know if the page is actually helpful. Let me know if you want to jump into a review together or if you have any questions about the process, where to find things, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:42, 12 November 2025 (UTC) :Hi. Sorry for disappearing. I recently moved out of my parents' house and I am working three jobs now. I have not had time for wiki projects unfortunately. I can't lose monentum towards getting my shit together in real life. I hope to have a new laptop this winter and hope to be back going strong around that time. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:06, 15 November 2025 (UTC) :: Get yer shit together, why don't ya? ツ :: No worries. It sounds like you are making the right priorities. 👍[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:24, 15 November 2025 (UTC) :::Thank you for understanding. I just went down from three jobs to two, so I am hoping I can at least start helping out with pre-reviews more regularly. I'm nervous about doing full reviews by myself though. I'm so sorry for falling off the grid. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:16, 20 November 2025 (UTC) == You still with us? == Haven't heard from you in awhile. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:33, 18 November 2025 (UTC) :I'm not really able to contribute in any meaningful way with the amount of free time I currently have. Sorry. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:50, 19 November 2025 (UTC) :Thank you for checking in though homie, the last two months in particular have been pretty challenging for me. But I'm getting through it. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:25, 20 November 2025 (UTC) ::Sending good vibes! You got this! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:44, 20 November 2025 (UTC) ::Please consider to try [[User:Asked42/Taglet]] it is a 5 min a day commitment to a triage process of new drafts, that helps other users a lot. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:55, 21 November 2025 (UTC) == Welcome back == Hi friend @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :Good to see ya [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:41, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :Happy turkey day [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:41, 27 November 2025 (UTC) == My attacks on you as a person == It might sound like the same old thing, but I do in fact apologize to you for my negative attacking of you. You can choose to accept or decline my attempted apologize, thank you again. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:33, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :Its fine, no hard feelings. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:42, 4 December 2025 (UTC) ::Same [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:47, 4 December 2025 (UTC) == Never give up my Friend == I will never lose Faith in you. We have had our spats but positivity is good for us. Hope life gets better. Talk soon? @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:05, 7 December 2025 (UTC) :Yeah, you'll see me around. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:02, 8 December 2025 (UTC) :Sorry for the profane edit summaries today [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:22, 8 December 2025 (UTC) == Wasn't expecting == Hey thanks so much for helping the drug bust story. I wasn't expecting anyone to help it out. My bad abandoning habits. Anyways thank you! You did a great job by the way! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:02, 9 December 2025 (UTC) :Thanks dude [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:18, 9 December 2025 (UTC) == Well done == Great job @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:47, 13 December 2025 (UTC) :thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:50, 13 December 2025 (UTC) == Starting a review == Hi, hope you Are doing well. From [[Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Removal/Lofi Gurl|your comment]], it appears you were struggling to start a review on an article as you mentioned you couldn't find any buttons. For your convenience, I've prepared a Review Launcher. Just [[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)#Review launcher widget|visit the page]], enter the article name you want to review, and click the "Start Review" button. That's it. After clicking Start Review, you will be redirected to the article page, wait for 1-2 seconds and the peer-review form should open for you. Use that form to submit your review result. I hope this isn't too complicated. If at any point you feel lost, just let me know. I understand that you may not be interested in reviewing at the moment, but if the reason is simply not knowing how to start the review, this approach might be helpful. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:31, 21 December 2025 (UTC) :A detailed documentation on how to use the peer-review form is [[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)|available here]]. If you still need more assistance, I can share some screenshots with you via email showing how to use the form. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:33, 21 December 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:44, 21 December 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you so much. I will keep this in mind once I get my head clear. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:12, 23 December 2025 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Barnes and noble stabbing]] (December 26) == Rewrite is requested 1) Please add a note about whether the victim died. This is essential to clarify this, even if the article mentions "murder"; specify whether the victim died on the scene or in an ambulance or in a hospital. Please fix this issue and re-submit for review. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:14, 26 December 2025 (UTC) :Please also move the page. The headline should contain a verb. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:16, 26 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[United States, Florida: A man fatally stabs a Barnes & Noble bookstore shopper, claims 'no cause' to police]] (December 26) == hello, this message is sent to all contributors to the article. some of the comments below may or may not be useful to you, please check them carefully for your future edits or for helping to revise after another user. i did this 1) renamed to clearer headline 2) copyedited second paragraph to replace 'She' with 'The victim' i am requesting further edits: 1) specify source for '9:22pm' 2) add a photo of a barnes and noble book store please do these changes now, and i will sight the edits thank you -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:31, 26 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Keyboardist-guitarist of English rock band The Cure dies aged 65]] (January 3) == Event over 7 days old. Passing as exception in context of following factors * nobody was around on holidays anyway (I am being lenient) * the article is well written * it is obituary about a person's whole life so it is still slightly newsy for a while Please do not consider this as precedent for future articles. Thanks -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:42, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Pile up involving dozens of cars on Japan highway kills two]] (January 3) == comment left by reviewer 1) event dec26 not new anymore see [[WN:Freshness]] action requested 1) please report a newer "more current" event not this old one thanks -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:57, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Residents shelter in place for hours after gas leak outside of Los Angeles]] (January 3) == Published. Congratulations, and thank you for starting, or revising, the article. Notes from reviewer: 1) This is on the edge of being old and no longer 'news', but still acceptable. 2) If AI/LLM was used, please leave a note on the article talk page immediately. This is required. Thank you. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:06, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Welcome back == Hi [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] * Follow these instructions [[Wikinews:Easy_Peer_Review_(2025_version)#Getting_Started|get started]] says "''To use it, go to any article that you want to review (make sure it has the {{tl|review}} template). You will find a "Review (EPRv2)" option in your "Actions" menu (in the Vector 2022 skin) or the "More" menu (in the Vector 2010 skin). After clicking this option, a form will appear at the top of the article.''". are you seeing this button? Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:48, 14 January 2026 (UTC) :no, I am not seeing either of these buttons on articles submitted for review. Im only seeing an option to prevreview. I use the 2010 skin. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:03, 14 January 2026 (UTC) :Nevermind, I FINALLY found it. It was under the "More" tab. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:06, 14 January 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father]] (January 19) == {{Notify_review/notready|article=Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father|author=Lofi Gurl|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:53, 19 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father]] (January 20) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father|author=Lofi Gurl|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:09, 20 January 2026 (UTC) :Credit truly goes to [[User:Gryllida]] and [[User:BigKrow]]. All I did was "get" this story. Thanks for running with it! I will attempt to review some articles this week. I will be forced to wing it. Perfectist anxiety is the only thing holding me back at this point. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:59, 20 January 2026 (UTC) == Hello == Hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] you still around? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:01, 16 February 2026 (UTC) :Hi. Good to see ya. My heart is not in current events at the moment. I plan to resume involvement here when I am convinced I can make more meaningful contributions. It doesn't look like there has been much activity here. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:32, 16 February 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] I agree with you that activity has been a bit hit and miss. Could you please let me know what is the criteria for this? What would convince you that the activity level is adequate? Knowing this could help to reach and maintain activity sooner. 😊 Thank you. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:43, 18 February 2026 (UTC) :::I just think at this point many editors are reluctant to write new articles due to lack of active reviewers, many articles went stale while waiting for review this year. I overestimated what I was able to accomplish as a reviewer, I just don't have the time or focus right now and I'd review articles if I wasn't so concerned about publicly making a mistake. But I think Wikinews needs to be publishing at least one article per day to remain a viable destination for readers and to encourage more participation. I would have done way more these past four months if I didn't have so much crap going on in my personal life related to living situations, employment, transportation and mental health. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:20, 19 February 2026 (UTC) ::::got it thanks it sounds reasonable. one article per day is a goal i saw mentioned more than once. 😊 Thank you. Regards [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:03, 20 February 2026 (UTC) == streak proposal == Hi, I am proposing to setup [[:w:streak]] goals over a 12 week period: for example, * "write one story each two weeks, and [[:wikt:babysit|babysit]] it until it is published" This could be either authoring a completely new article or this could be taking over someone else's article and doing focused editing on it with active collaboration with others until it is published. It is like a [[:wikt:day shift|day shift]] as you are expected to remain available '[[:wikt:on call|on call]]' to address concerns from another user or reviewer. The aim of this is to build a habit of participation with [[:wikt:outburst|outburst]]s of eyeballing the page to collaborate with others -- but not every day, to have breaks and reduce [[:wikt:burnout|burnout]]. Could you please check out at '''[[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Streak_themed_competition_proposal|this section]]''' and let me know what you think? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 03:15, 22 February 2026 (UTC) == Here&comma; hold this == <div style="display:flex;align-items:center;justify-content:center;text-align:center;flex-wrap:wrap;margin:2em 0">[[File:Rainbow trout transparent.png|175px|link=wikipediawikipedia:Trout|alt=a rainbow trout fish]]<div style="width:280px"><p style="font-size: 225%; color: Red;">'''''Whack!'''''</p><p style="font-size: 115%;">''You've been [[:wikipediawikipedia:Whacking with a wet trout|whacked with a wet trout]].''</p><small>{{{1|Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.}}}</small><!--Template:Trout--> </div></div> An award for all your edits made while under the in&fllig;uence&period; [[User:Anohthterwikipedian|Anohthterwikipedian]] ([[User talk:Anohthterwikipedian|talk]]) 00:47, 5 March 2026 (UTC) :Thank you very much. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:49, 5 March 2026 (UTC) ::dont feed into them @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 02:09, 5 March 2026 (UTC) == srry == brah i saw your user page srry. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 17:53, 11 March 2026 (UTC) :I went to the BMV in person and they gave me the steps to get it reinstated so it's all good hopefully. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:11, 11 March 2026 (UTC) == queue == Just noting there are around 5 stories in queue which were created or substantially expanded by me and I would appreciate if you could have a look! I have none I can publish thus far as I was involved in editing. Thank you! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:06, 11 March 2026 (UTC) :alright, I'll take a look! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:08, 11 March 2026 (UTC) ::well done! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 01:16, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :::Thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:22, 12 March 2026 (UTC) == Reviewing and publishing == Thank you for stepping into the review queue. Reviewing can be thought of as a two-part process: 1. [[Wikinews:Review checklist|Review]]<br> 2. [[Wikinews:Publish checklist|Publish]] The publishing process involves updating our Main page with the new article. The easiest way to do this is to use [[User:Asked42/LeadManager]], which you'll need to install using the instructions [[User:Asked42/LeadManager#Installation|provided on the tool's page]]. As long as all of the reviewers publish articles immediately after reviewing them, the 5 leads will stay up-to-date. Let me know if you need help with anything, or if any part of the checklists is unclear. Much of the review and publishing process becomes second nature to experienced reviewers, and it is easy to forget how overwhelming it can feel in the beginning.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:15, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :thank you! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:46, 12 March 2026 (UTC) == The sources section can be the third rail for reviewers == Reviewers aren't supposed to add or remove sources as part of the review process. Any source listed is assumed to have been used to directly support statements of fact in the article (because that is what is required of authors). When reviewers come across paywalled sources in the sources list, they need to stop the review process and ask the contributors to remove it and any statements supported solely by it. This delays publishing, but helps to ensure accuracy, which is more important than rapid publishing.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:46, 12 March 2026 (UTC) : And to be clear, this isn't meant to be a criticism, but hopefully helpful 'on-boarding.'[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:53, 12 March 2026 (UTC) ::Heard, thanks a bunch [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:35, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :FWIW, while I agree that what described above is one option (and is better than removing the problematic source and leaving content unchanged), it is my position that, if a reviewer had time to remove ''both'' the problematic source and the information that came from it, while remaining confident that all remaining information is verifiable, then, that reviewer is allowed to complete the review and publish the page. I believe that the process I have described reduces delay waiting for author to revise, and does not compromise quality of the review process. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:25, 13 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Woman charged with attempted homicide after allegedly firing shots at Barbadian pop singer Rihanna's house]] (March 13) == Hi all... I would lile to request a major rewrite: 1) LA Times is paywalled. Please replace, and ensure new content is fully verifiable; then re-submit for review. Please let me know if this is in error, or any questions or request assistance. Thanks! ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:46, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :I dont understand why these sites let me read it and then paywall the article later. Probably so some free news source can't use it as a source for their own article. :P [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:28, 12 March 2026 (UTC) ::Maybe they let you read the first 2-3 pages and then after a few pages, start to demand subscription. :-( [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:15, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :::lets take a deep breath and continue on. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 01:17, 13 March 2026 (UTC) ::::It should be an easy fix. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:50, 13 March 2026 (UTC) == Front page headlines == Hi, do you know why [[Australian Minister for Energy lowers fuel standards for 60 days amid rising oil prices, panic buying]] did not show up as one of the front page lead articles after it was published? This has been a recurring problem as discussed at [[Wikinews:Water cooler/technical#Improper 'circle']] and [[Wikinews:Water cooler/technical#The lead articles need to be changed]]. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:33, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :I have no idea honestly. Sometimes when I publish an article, there's a button asking me I want to post it to the front page, sometimes there isn't. I don't think hitting the button has really done anything though, at least for me. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:37, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :: You can still use Lead Manager independently of EZPR 2025. If, for some reason you aren't prompted to update the leads after a successful review or you leave the page without clicking the button, you can still do so by going to [[User:Asked42/LeadManager]]. It will allow you to update the leads individually, serially, or in a custom fashion. :: By default, LM pulls in the last five articles into the "title" drop-down field. If you just click in the title field, you will be presented with a clickable list of the last five published articles. You can simply select the target article, "fetch automatically" the first two sentences, tweak the imported text and image if you'd like, then "Start update" will make the changes. :: To get used to the tools and processes, you can likely skip the 'additional options' area and just publish a single article after a successful review.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:28, 13 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], Let me know if you want me to install the LeadManager script for you, so that you can just start using it. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 16:38, 13 March 2026 (UTC) : I have updated the leads to include the article.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:48, 13 March 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground]] (March 22) == <div style="border:2px solid #57DB1E;background:linear-gradient(135deg,#E6FFE6 0%,#F0FFF0 100%);padding:1em 1.5em;color:#1a1a1a;margin:1.5em;border-radius:4px;box-shadow:0 2px 8px rgba(87,219,30,0.15);"> [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|50px|left|link=]] <div style="margin-left:64px;"> <span style="font-size:1.1em;font-weight:bold;color:#2d5016;"> Hi Lofi Gurl! Thank you for your submission! </span><br/> Your article '''[[South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground]]''' has been reviewed by '''{{User|Gryllida}}''', and it has been accepted and published. '''Congratulations! 🎉''' <div style="margin-top:0.5em;"> The reviewer's comments and decision are available on the [[Talk:South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground|article's talk page]]. </div> <div style="margin-top:0.5em;"> Excellent work, please keep it up! We hope you will continue contributing to Wikinews. If you have some time, consider taking a look at other articles currently [[:Category:Developing|under development]] or [[:Category:Review|awaiting review]]. Your help in improving or reviewing them would be greatly appreciated. </div> <div style="font-size:0.9em;color:#555;"> ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. </div></div></div> -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:34, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :That was a weird bug: I specified an empty custom comment, as my clipboard was borked. :Here is a copy... :A few remarks: :1. Having checked sources, I needed to make some changes, such as "near the neck" and not "in the neck", and the bombing incident was last year (not two years ago). Please check the edit history carefully and let me know if any of my changes were incorrect. :2. I am trying to push towards more exclusive content or more closer follow ups here. Could you please either think of the questions to ask the South Korean Army, or, write a follow up report when the investigations completed and drills resumed? :3. Barely newsworthy as this is nearly 5 days old but I think this is fine to publish. :4. For npov balance, recommend including responses from other sources, i.e., from someone who is not a part of the South Korean Army. This may be done up to 24 hours after the story is published. :Overall, this looks great, I appreciate the report!!! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:37, 22 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[7-ton meteor traverses sky over Ohio and several other US states]] (March 27) == Sorry, this report went stale. ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:38, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[AC/DC guitarist Stevie Young admitted to hospital in Buenos Aires, spokesperson says]] (March 27) == Sorry, this report went stale. Did he survive? ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:41, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Might write some today possibly later == thanks @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:07, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :I'll try to do a few reviews before I go out tonight. I'm going to focus on reviews since it's a fair assumption now that nobody will even look at the articles I submit. It's the only way I can try to fix this project's problems at this point. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:13, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Regarding your move of my article == Hello, Lofi Gurl! I think my article is best located at [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts Christians of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians in landmark ruling]] rather than [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts politicians of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians in landmark ruling]], because, of the four defendants convicted in the case, only one is a politician. The other individual is a bishop. The other two defendants are institutions. The only thing that the four defendants, consisting of two individuals and two institutions, have in common is that they are all Christian. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 19:09, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :okay, sorry for the overreaction. I despise religious fundamentalism and bigotry but I just wanted to make sure the title wasn't going after Christians as some sort of ethnic group or something. But then, Christianity is a {{w|universal religion}}, so I'm not sure the same principles apply anyway. No idea why I'm saying this. I have {{w|religious trauma}} from my Protestant upbringing and I listen to Satanic {{w|death metal}} every day of my life, and idk I guess I just didn't want thst influence creeping into my writing and creating a potential conflict of interest. Thanks for the message. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:40, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thank you for letting me know. I actually went to great lengths to balance the article, get perspectives from all sides, sources from all sides, strongly ground the article in the sources, provide perspectives from all sides, and stay neutral and stick to the facts. This is my very first ever Wikinews article. Since you seem to care about both factuality and neutrality, would you mind reviewing the article? I think it is ready for publication. What do you think? --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:27, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :::Yes absolutely. I should have some time to review stuff while dogsitting tonight. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:24, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Thank you for your review. I appreciate most of your edits, but in [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Supreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_Christians_of_crimes_against_the_humanity_of_gays_and_lesbians_in_landmark_ruling&diff=5002549&oldid=5002548 this edit] you removed the global scientific consensus regarding homosexuality saying that it is "emotional language", but it is scientific language that all scientific, medical, psychological, psychiatric, and pediatric associations, institutions, and organisations use to describe homosexuality, especially against false claims such those made in the pamphlet. I used the World Medical Association as a source, but there are thousands of more sources that use that language. The World Medical Association itself is an international federation of over a hundred national medical associations. Attributing that scientific language to the World Medical Association alone would give readers the incorrect impression that only the World Medical Association holds that position, when in fact it is the common position of all scientific, medical, psychological, psychiatric, and pediatric associations, institutions, and organisations in the whole world. Obviously, it would be impractical to cite every single one of thousands of scientific, medical, psychological, psychiatric, and pediatric associations, institutions, and organisations in the world, which is I cited the World Medical Association, which itself is an international federation of over a hundred national medical associations. Is your review complete? Is the article ready for publication? This is my very first ever Wikinews article, so I'm not entirely familiar with process here. Thank you for your help. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 17:49, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :::::We can just say "according to scientific consensus" then. I mostly just thought the passage was really wordy with way too many adjectives. It's close to being ready for publication. I cleaned it up the best I could without making major revisions and all I need to do now is verify all the claims and check for copyright violations. I'll likely do it later tonight. I was severely hungover yesterday and had to go to sleep early, but I'm good now. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:31, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::I'll leave it in your capable hands then! I'm looking forward to the publication of my very first Wikinews article! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 23:11, 29 March 2026 (UTC) Hi, Lofi Gurl! I appreciate your edits and your review, but I think that changing the title made it too vague, and the previous title was more specific. You said that [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Supreme_Court_of_Finland_makes_crimes_against_humanity_convictions_in_landmark_ruling&diff=5002876&oldid=5002875 "Don wanted this title changed I think"], but I actually couldn't find a comment from Don saying that he wanted the title changed. Are you done reviewing the article? Can we publish the article now? --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:28, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I'm concerned I may have made too substantial of changes to the article to remain an uninvolved reviewer. They just announced today Wikinews is closing and I am gutted. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:04, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Your edits seem to be only related to getting the article ready for publicaiton, so that should not be a problem, right? Also, oh no! That's awful! Why are they closing Wikinews? I really put in a lot of work into that article, so is it possible to get it published before? [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 21:10, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::The project is being closed due to low user engagement. The "current events" module on the front page of Wikipedia does a better job at reporting current events than Wikinews. It is much more timely on Wikipedia, and edits can be published faster because i'm pretty sure that project is not subject to the same libel regulations as this project, as wikipedia is not a news publication. By contrast, Wikinews has a rigorous review process to ensure quality, which sounds good on paper, but ultimately fails when the existing reviewers are either unable or unwilling to perform a review in time to get it published. Most articles that did manage to get published on this site were usually posted 4-5 days after the fact, when the news cycle has effectively moved on. Ive had an extremely difficult time getting anyone to even look at anything I've written these last six months here on the project. This is an experience shared by [[User:Tduk]]. There were a few successful publications during that time. But lets be real. Wikinews is a failed experiment. The Wikimedia Foundation doesn't want to pay for the server costs to host this project. They want to focus on Wikipedia. I thought I could help get things moving in the right direction and help save the project from closure, but the truth is I simply overestimated this project abd overestimated what I was able to realistically do. Adderall is one hell of a drug. Anyway, for what its worth, I did deeply care about this project, I thought the concept was so cool, I guess some things just dont work in practice. That pretty much sums it up, let me know if you have any further questions. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:47, 4 April 2026 (UTC) == Just a check-in == ....the India article? Still reviewing that one? Didn't want to mess with it if you are.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:58, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == Please don't bite my head off == Just a heads up Im starting a Miraheze here about English Wikinews, thanks. https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/78142 Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:54, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I'm not going to bite your head off haha. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:09, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::thnx Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:12, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::I guess pinging is getting me in trouble with some people so I'll make it quick, https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::Someone will need to discuss and decide on new name. I asked whether trademarked word 'Wikinews' can be used, and have not got an answer to that, yet. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:32, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == Negativity == You've been a pretty solid contributor and I hope that you don't let the negativity and hypocrisy surrounding this site get to you too much. At least, I've noted how you've been trying to move things more than many others here. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 02:14, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :It's fine. Don't worry. I kind of knew this project was a dead end job and wasn't really worth the effort I was putting in trying to save it. I just kept getting sucked back in every time I tried to quit, so in a way I'm kind of glad the project is closing. It was probably going to devolve to a thing where I assumed most of the workload while the more experienced editors scaled back their involvement with the project, per tradition. Oh well. When one door closes, another one opens. I try to remember [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Lofi_Gurl#En.wn this conversation] when I feel shitty regarding my contributions to this project. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:20, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::I've still got one fresh and one fresh-ish (thanks to you know who) article pending review if you get inspired to try to do something. The most recent one has some pretty unique original reporting in my opinion. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:20, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have nothing left to give this project, unfortunately. Those messages that admin left us, then bailing on the project completely... Lets just say that if I had a single shit left to give, it is definitely gone now. I might still take a look at the article but I cant promise anything. I'm completely demoralized. Do you contribute at English Wikipedia and/or Wikiquote? Thats where you will usually find me moving forward. Let me know if I can be of any assistance on those projects. :::RIP Wikinews, let the record show I believed in you up until the end. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:35, 4 April 2026 (UTC) ::::Yes, I'm a long time contributor to other wiki projects, in fact I'm seen you editing some metal pages that are on my watchlist! I was asked to come on here last year to see if I could do anything to make it start to function, but you saw how that went. Anyway it's up to you if you want to review those articles, I'm not expecting anything. I think there are other things going on here. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 00:17, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :::::Hell yeah! I have made substantial contributions to various extreme metal-related topics on enwp that I am immensely proud of. If you ever need help in regards to improving those articles, you can always drop a message on my talk page over there. I have also been creating articles for niche subgenres of jazz over there. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:11, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Interested? == I created a news wiki on Fandom, i have one contributor so far. Please let me know it could use your help! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:15, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:16, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :Sure, why not. I created an account and tried to create a discussion post, but it says I have to have an account for four days before I can contribute. Here's the story I was trying to share: [https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/atlanta-gucci-mane-kidnapped-robbed-dallas-pooh-shiesty-big30/] [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:24, 4 April 2026 (UTC) ::OK cool, could you please create a userpage like on Wikinews? Also, I don't know what that glitch could be on the article creation? For now, I will start the article if you're ok with that? Thanks a million! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:39, 4 April 2026 (UTC) ::On my end it says you have not registered (joined). Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:42, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :::Unlike Wikinews Fandom needs you to have a email address. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:05, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/Gucci_Mane_kidnapped,_robbed_at_gunpoint_in_Dallas ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:20, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :::I confirmed my email address so I don't know why it won't let me. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:34, 5 April 2026 (UTC) il3zkcpqo8rq1u0rte88u8bu47kiadd 5005115 5005093 2026-04-05T16:32:55Z Tduk 411937 /* Negativity */ Reply 5005115 wikitext text/x-wiki {{retired}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 00:40, 6 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Court ruling upholds TikTok ban unless ByteDance sells stake]] == Hi, @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] published the story. Congratulations. Please review the article history and talk page for feedback from the reviewer. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Suspect in shooting death of UnitedHealthcare CEO fled New York City by bus, police say]] == Hi, I published the story. Congratulations. 🎉 Please review the article history and talk page for feedback. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:33, 7 December 2024 (UTC) :thanks!! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:35, 7 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Manslaughter charges against Daniel Perry dismissed following jury deadlock]] == Published. :-) Please read notes on the talk page. Have a great day. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:51, 7 December 2024 (UTC) == Re: cathedral re-opening == Hello, Published. :-) Please check notes on the article talk page. A copy is included below for your reference: ---- There are important, but not critically essential details missing, for example: * time of day in local time and UTC * that they planned to do speech outdoors but did it indoors because of a storm * (is it needed to write '2024' in first paragraph as we already have publish date further up the page) I could not verify one part: * Sunday 'morning' mass (source 1 says Sunday, source 2 does not say, or something) -- replaced 'Sunday morning' with 'Sunday' The above items can be addressed within 24 hours after publication. The image credit was missing and I added it as a minor edit as a part of the review process. It is required due to the licence requirements. I recommend the author to also become involved in editing others' submissions -- those of them that are newsworthy, at least -- in the [[Newsroom]], if desired. This may help improve their quality and their chances of publication, and provide experience with proofreading and fact checking in addition to writing and authoring efforts. Thank you and keep up the great work. ---- Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:59, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == Pace == Hi Lofi Gurl, there are not many reviewers available, and I think the current queue may take a couple days to be processed. (I am mostly outdoors and away on weekend.) My apologies, and thank you for reading and writing entertaining and specific stories. :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:06, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :No problem, take your time and enjoy your weekend! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:08, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == Revisit articles in review queue == While waiting for articles I've authored to be reviewed, I often revisit them as long as they aren't under review and 'tighten' them up by making sure they conform to the style guide, that facts are correct, I've chosen good images with useful descriptions (and attributed every image), etc. I see that there are style issues in some of your articles currently awaiting review. Please see what you can do to help make the review of these articles easier/quicker. Consider using {{tl|verify}} to point to exactly what source is used for all information so reviewers who verify information can find it easier. This helps tremendously. Thanks. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 15:53, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :Are you able to specify the style issues present in the article as a reviewer, or is it my job to figure that out as the reporter? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:59, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :I haven't checked the article talk pages yet so sorry if this ends up being a pointless question [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:00, 8 December 2024 (UTC) ::It is the author's responsibility to know our policies and guidelilnes, to include the [[WN:Style|style guide]]. Reviewers can and often do correct style issues before publishing but they are not required to. It takes more of a reviewers time to correct for style along with everything else they must check before publishing. See [[Wikinews:Reviewing articles]] to understand all the work that goes into reviewing an article. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 14:24, 9 December 2024 (UTC) == Great job == You are doing a great job here thank you. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:25, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :Thank you, friend! :[[File:Red Wine Toast GIF Animation.gif]] [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == I have a question! == {{tl|helpme}} Say an articles goes stale, or fails review for whatever reason. Am I allowed to splice old material and sources from "rejected" articles and use them in future articles, so long as the subject of the article stays fresh, and new developments keep coming in? Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:36, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :Yes, that's fine. They are released under the creative commons licence indicated in the footer, and you can reuse them at any news articles here or any other place where the licence of content is compatible. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:54, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Impeachment of South Korean president Yoon Suk Yeol fails]] == Hi Lofi Gurl :-) Could you please [[WN:Attribution|attribute]] the "''Political unrest and nationwide protests were expected in response to the axing of the impeachment.''" sentence? Who said this? This would help the sentence to not read as a speculation made on behalf of ''Wikinews''. Let me know if you have any questions, I am happy to help. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:53, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :From the Associated Press article: :{{quote|The vote’s defeat is likely to fuel nationwide protests and escalate political turmoil, and opposition parties could introduce a new impeachment motion when parliament reconvenes next Wednesday.}} [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:56, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :This is amazing: :* [[South Korean Constitutional Court upholds impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol]] :Thank you so much for writing about this topic. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:15, 10 April 2025 (UTC) ::Pretty cool we have four articles of coverage spanning the scandal from start to finish! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:02, 11 April 2025 (UTC) == Wizard of oz slippers story == Hi Lofi Gurl * Missing currency, both in first paragraph and in headline? * Missing specified location where the auction took place. Hope you can assist. Let me know if any questions. Thank you. :-) Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:09, 9 December 2024 (UTC) :I've found the location and left a note about it at the article talk page. I cannot add it and remain available to review. Could you please check and make the edit? Thank you!!! Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:13, 9 December 2024 (UTC) ::I went to sleep before seeing all these. I'm so sorry! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:20, 9 December 2024 (UTC) :::Hi [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] :-) :::What is your time zone? :::Do you receive notifications in right top corner of the page while you are logged in? :::Please note on talk page of the slippers story there is a new message "''@Michael.C.Wright - You can add it and I can review? Please confirm within the next hour, or @Lofi Gurl please add it within next hour. Failing that, I'll add it myself and will require another reviewer to publish. Thanks.''" :::Have a great day. :::Thanks, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:25, 9 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Yeah, and I need to get better at clearing my inbox, apparently. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:44, 9 December 2024 (UTC) :::::I'm eastern standard time I think. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:38, 10 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Left you a '''[[Talk:Slippers_worn_by_American_actress_Judy_Garland_in_1939_film_The_Wizard_of_Oz_break_sales_record,_sold_for_US$28_million_at_auction#Why_the_slippers_were_so_expensive|new message]]''' Hope it helps :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:25, 10 December 2024 (UTC) :::::[[Slippers worn by American actress Judy Garland in 1939 film The Wizard of Oz break sales record, sold for US$28 million at auction]] now published, congratulations. :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:14, 10 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::thank you :) [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:21, 10 December 2024 (UTC) == Coffee::Who == Hi Lofi Gurl, I've left you a new message '''[[Talk:Coffee_prices_surge_to_record_highs_due_to_droughts_in_Brazil,_Vietnam#Who|here]]'''. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:31, 11 December 2024 (UTC) :added a new message now again [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:10, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == Chess article == Please see the talk page at that article.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:44, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == damascus story == i made a few edits. in one sentence needs clarification, i marked it in bold. please check? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:03, 13 December 2024 (UTC) :Hi!! To answer the quesion/comment/footnote you left in the article -- I found a mention of "Saydnaya prison complex" in the BBC source but they don't specify if that was the prison Timmerman escaped from. It was just mentioned that {{w|the White Helmets}} were storming looking for survivors. Hope this helps! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:43, 13 December 2024 (UTC) :Also, I think he left prison the same day the city fell on Monday, which was mentioned in the second paragraph. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:49, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == minor edit & thanks == hi, i have rejected [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Indian_chess_grandmaster_Gukesh_Dommaraju,_18,_becomes_youngest_world_chess_champion_of_all_time&diff=4809824&oldid=prev&unhide=1 this edit] as this wikilink was already included in a previous paragraph. please let me know if i am incorrect! thanks for the other edits to the story. they have made it so much nicer and are timely. i appreciate it and approved the other edits. have a great day, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:45, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :oops didn't see the other link, thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 08:47, 14 December 2024 (UTC) == Edits after publication == Please note that our [[WN:Archive]] conventions generally prevent edits to articles 24 hours after publication. Articles are meant to be a snapshot in time. Edits within the 24 hours after publication should be limited to only correcting any errors not caught in the review process. It is better to have an article fully button-down and ready for publication before requesting review. You are more than welcome, even encouraged to help improve other articles. But please focus that energy on articles in the developing queue and review queue unless the article is actively ''under'' review. That way we catch more errors before review and definitely before publication. Thanks again for joining and contributing! I can't remember the last time I saw ten articles in the review queue. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 16:46, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :[[image:Symbol thumbs up green.png]] [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC) == Requested article == hey, {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} https://abc3340.com/news/local/alabama-talladega-county-sheriffs-office I added this story to requested articles but im not up to starting the article myself... If you can do anything for this would be helpful? Thanks! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :Hi, I'm happy to start articles you bring to me, I'm just not sure this story meets the site's notability guidelines.. I'd have to double check though. Thank you though [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:02, 14 December 2024 (UTC) ::It does and is '''developing''', not much data so far I suppose.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC) ::We also need a second source. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :::we'll play it by ear. This South Korea story is taking way longer than I thought [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:20, 14 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Let's please focus on it being published! My request can always wait, thanks. {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:22, 14 December 2024 (UTC) == please vote == Hi Lofi Gurl :-) '''[[Wikinews:Requests_for_permissions|This page]]''' has a handful of requests open. Could you please cast a vote and/or add a comment, ideally for each of them, at your earliest convenience? Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:19, 15 December 2024 (UTC) == hi here is a news tip about malware == https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ultralytics-ai-model-hijacked-to-infect-thousands-with-cryptominer/ -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:04, 16 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Hundreds of North Korean troops killed fighting Ukrainian forces in Russia]] == Hi. Please see my not-ready review comments on the talk page. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 22:19, 19 December 2024 (UTC) == Why? == Are you making more work for editors? Im not angry just confused.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:50, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :I don't know what you're talking about? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:58, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::You keep abandoning articles mostly you created, why? {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:00, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :What specifically do you mean "making more work for editors"? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:59, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::more work to clean up after you... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:01, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::I'd just delete them if I was able to. Why are you mad? I'm abandoning the articles. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:02, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::not mad, just confused.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::You were acting fine before, what happened? {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::Stop "RIPing" because it's seen as disruptive behavior, sorry but it seems like it. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::That's fine I'm done writing here anyway. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::::Suit yourself..... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::::Then what was your point? Wasting peoples' time? Sad sorry. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::I'm genuinely confused now. What do you mean "wasting peoples time"? What are you talking about? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:08, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::::::The project is to work together with one another not to abandon because theres not much activity right now. I won't argue with you anymore.. Sorry... {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:14, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::::::: '''I didn't do anything wrong.''' [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:16, 20 December 2024 (UTC) == En.wn == Hi. Thanks for, well, contributing here, I guess. So really, if you want to write fast and write prolifically, maybe Wikipedia is a better fit for you than en.wn in its present state. The project couldn't handle a mass influx of even people highly skilled at writing for it (overwhelms the review process, reporters get demoralized). I'm tempted to say that you overestimated the project and what you could do, but that sounds wrong. I don't know why I'm saying all this. You probably already know it. Of what's left, we are overwhelmingly nice people, for what it's worth, and care deeply about en.wn. Just don't, I guess, overinvest yourself in it. One of our colleagues here likes to say "don't get married to your article", so perhaps likewise with the concept and future of the project. Then again, a late editor literally saw himself as embarking on a mission to save human civilization from intellectual ruin and mundanity by making something great out of this project. But he was executing a long term plan, that did transform the project. I don't know what this sounds like. I hope it doesn't sound condescending. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 06:27, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :Just to let both of you know I wasn't trying to attack {{ping|Lofi Gurl}}. {{Ping|Heavy Water}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 13:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :Thanks for taking the time to write this (it didn't come off as condescending). I'll keep it in mind while contributing to the project in the future. Sorry for taking a few days to reply. Been trying to limit internet time. Have a good rest of your weekend! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 05:31, 22 December 2024 (UTC) == Lofi Gurl == I was really being a dink to you, apologies. Feel free to continue to write articles here! {{Ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC) :Consider it forgiven. It happens. Onward! [[file:FPClogogif.gif]] [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC) ::Thank you for creating new news articles you go as fast as you please {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:01, 22 December 2024 (UTC) :::I'm trying to slow down and try to average maybe three per week. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Please write as much as you like and thanks {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:05, 22 December 2024 (UTC) == Welcome back == [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:45, 30 January 2025 (UTC) :Good to be back. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:47, 30 January 2025 (UTC) ::😊 [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:47, 30 January 2025 (UTC) ::Welcome back Lofi Gurl [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:58, 12 February 2025 (UTC) :::thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 08:16, 12 February 2025 (UTC) == Crash Philadelphia story == Hi I copyedited some misspelled words for the article. Hope your well, thanks. {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:51, 2 February 2025 (UTC) :thanks. I'm on my mom's laptop at the moment and she has her shit set up weird, and I can't spellcheck very easily at all right now. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:57, 2 February 2025 (UTC) ::It's ok, do your best. {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:14, 2 February 2025 (UTC) == Paywalled == Can't you work around it? {{Ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:10, 12 March 2025 (UTC) :It's gonna be easier to rewrite the entire article at this point, with like 2-3 sources. The project just kept getting bigger and bigger and I shot myself in the foot (or gave my foot the firing squad, if you will). Using this article's content for Wikipedia. Going to focus on my WashingtonDC/suicide/cop article I have started here. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:19, 12 March 2025 (UTC) == Re: revitalising Wikinews == Hi, I'm reaching out to you as you indicated support for revitalising Wikinews. Here are a few ways to help out, in no particular order: # write new articles by [[WN:SG|style guide]] and [[WN:CG|content guide]] # find news which happened today and share it on [[WN:IRC|live chat]] or [[WN:REQ|a news tip page]] # read drafts in [[Newsroom]], especially those submitted for review, and edit them to make them more comprehensive or more current # read drafts in [[Newsroom]], especially those that failed review recently, and address reviewer's comments quickly and re-submit for review # chat with new authors (of articles in Newsroom) and help them understand the key concepts # subscribe at [[Wikinews:Water cooler]] (there are 5 subforums, open each and click 'Subscribe' link at top - then keep a close eye on your Echo notifications) to help newcomers and help with editing articles when someone requests assistance # chat on [[WN:IRC|live chat]] and help newcomers and reviewers with their review process # help with software development for authoring or reviewing articles, perhaps for the mobile platforms # chat with other contributors on audio or video chat # present notes about how Wikinews works at various conferences via audio and video communucations [as we don't have funds for travel at present] this can be linux, programming, journalistical, or wikimedia themed conferences # figure out how to get someone to do any of the above through a grant, sometimes google summer of code # find high school and university educators who would like to teach their class journalism by asking them to write articles for Wikinews (was done with [[Category:UoW|University of Wollongong]] in the past, and we have extension installed for marking students) # collaborate with [[User:Pharos|Pharos]] on getting more news coverage of the New York City and adjacent areas # proofread, or read, Wikinews articles out loud for Audio Wikinews # make English Wikinews accounts on various social media like twitter, facebook, blue sky app (sp?), others [in consultation with someone on-wiki first] ensuring you're posting new news articles there with appropriate tags, moderate comments, and setup multiple moderators if possible and document which contributor is in charge of which social network account for Wikinews and how articles are being posted there Please let me know which of these points you're most comfortable with, and/or would like to learn. '''''Which points would you like to contribute?''''' Please name up to 3-5 points, if you like. Or suggest your own. :-) I'm happy to connect with you and guide you in any of the above areas. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:54, 16 March 2025 (UTC) :I like alot of these! :#7. I've been meaning to start using IRC for a while. Maybe today's the day. :#8. Not sure what I can do to help with software development but I have a bunch of friends who know code. :#12. I know a few university professors in the history field. :#14. I've never heard of Audio Wikinews. Sounds self-explanatory. How many articles have audio with them? :Thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:02, 17 March 2025 (UTC) == This is terribly overdue! == {|style="border: 8px solid gray; background-color: #fdff7;" |rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[Image:Pencil tip closeup 2.JPG|160px]] |rowspan="2" | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 2; vertical-align: middle; height: .4em;" | '''The Order of the Humble Pencil''' <br> For completing ''5 edits''. |- |style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Great work! Keep it up! --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:12, 17 March 2025 (UTC) |} == Stuff == Some of your (recent) contributions have gone stale. Sorry -- keep at it!!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:27, 18 March 2025 (UTC) == Darn it! == That execution article ROCKED! Is there a snowball's change you could gatwick it? I'll help -- for realz!!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:39, 18 March 2025 (UTC) :Thanks for the kind words! I don't think I can gatwick it -- it went stale on Friday, and there have not been any new developments that I'm aware of. I shot myself in the foot by relying too heavily on a source that I later discovered had an apparent paywall (only the first two days were free I guess). On the bright side, I was able to use alot of it for the Wikipedia article, but I wish I could have gotten it published here! It would have been a good one. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:49, 19 March 2025 (UTC) == You ok??? == Hope your good???? {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:01, 25 March 2025 (UTC) :I've been borderline kind of freaking out lately. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:38, 25 March 2025 (UTC) ::Well, take a few breaths -- back up -- '''re-calibrate the mechanism''' -- and come back soon!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 12:31, 1 April 2025 (UTC) == You've AT LEAST earned this!! == [[File:Wikinews WikiNoob.png|210px|left|This [[Wikinews:Contributing Reporter Awards|award]] is presented to new reporters who have started 10 or fewer news articles.]] Keep at it!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 12:33, 1 April 2025 (UTC) :Ahh thank you!! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:08, 1 April 2025 (UTC) :congrats [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:57, 6 April 2025 (UTC) ::thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 12:58, 6 April 2025 (UTC) == Articles == Your clogging up the queue, please resort to 1 possibly 2 articles at a time. I don't want to see you blocked..... Many of your articles will most likely go stale, or you will abandon them. Sorry for so harsh but its facts... @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:19, 14 April 2025 (UTC) :I've also put a good amount of effort into helping your articles.... Your stressing me out badly.... @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:21, 14 April 2025 (UTC) ::Will you please stop needlessly punctuating ''every sentence'' with "..........."? Because it comes off as needlessly shitty to everyone you talk to and that really isn't something I need to be dealing with. No matter the topic it just sets a negative tone right off the bat. Sorry, "but it's facts." [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:28, 14 April 2025 (UTC) :Coming from a user who constantly abandons articles lol [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:22, 14 April 2025 (UTC) ::It's not funny brah, i should report you! But i wont, your harassing me and wikinews!!! °½<½½½<<½½½;½½ @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:32, 14 April 2025 (UTC) ::your a sock or troll.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:33, 14 April 2025 (UTC) :I found these stubs useful and was pleased. Expanded one yesterday. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:17, 14 April 2025 (UTC) == Interest in notifications for new drafts == Hi Lofi Gurl I'd like to invite you to edit drafts created by other contributors to improve their quality and reduce reviewer load on them, so that more reviewers can review articles written by you. Would you be interested in notifications of the current drafts in the Newsroom, compiled with a note of what the event date and link to article? I can make something like [[User:Gryllida/Newsroom]]. If you're interested, would you like to get notified when article '''is created as a new draft''' ([[:Category:Developing]]) or when it is '''submitted for review''' ([[:Category:Review]])? Many thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:12, 15 April 2025 (UTC) :Yes, I would love that. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:16, 15 April 2025 (UTC) ::Awesome thanks. Which option would you prefer, articles created in Developing or in Review category? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:28, 15 April 2025 (UTC) :::Definitely developing. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:29, 15 April 2025 (UTC) ::::Would you like to get notifications 'instantly' for each new draft, or weekly? ::::Would you be OK if these notifications were delivered to your personal talk page? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:35, 15 April 2025 (UTC) :::::Instantly would be great. Yeah, my talk page would be fine starting out, but if we could find a way for them to only show up in my notifications inbox, that would be good too. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:50, 15 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::great thanks i will try to figure out how to make this work [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:55, 16 April 2025 (UTC) ::May I ask about your devices: how many, what OS, have you used an RSS feed reader before? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:08, 16 April 2025 (UTC) :::I mainly edit on my laptop using Windows 10. No I've never used an RSS feed reader before. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:20, 16 April 2025 (UTC) == idaho police story == published after an edit to write in active voice, great writeup thanks heaps [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:54, 16 April 2025 (UTC) == Don't edit my articles == Thanks [[Special:Contributions/64.39.81.71|64.39.81.71]] ([[User talk:64.39.81.71|talk]]) 17:11, 17 April 2025 (UTC) @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] :Why not? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:34, 17 April 2025 (UTC) ::Sorry got ahead of myself [[Special:Contributions/64.39.81.71|64.39.81.71]] ([[User talk:64.39.81.71|talk]]) 18:32, 17 April 2025 (UTC) :Anyone can edit anyone's article. This is not bbc nor a blog. Articles belong to Wikinews, not to individual authors. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:51, 17 April 2025 (UTC) == [[Suspect taken into custody and charged after Pennsylvania governor Josh Shapiro is forced to evacuate gubernatorial mansion with family following suspected arson attack]][ == is there a court date scheduled for this? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:37, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :Ill look into it when i ge5 home [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:54, 20 April 2025 (UTC) == Hello == I just wanted to say hi. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:57, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :Hey BigKrow! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:47, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::I seem to have an imposter, a pain in my side, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], @[[User:BigKrow2|BigKrow2]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:49, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::Also @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], @[[User:Gryllida2|Gryllida2]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:50, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], notified. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:50, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::I really hope this is just some random child that doesn't know the actual severity of what they're doing here. But that is clearly someone who has been kicked from the project multiple times. Just ignore the humanoid. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:58, 20 April 2025 (UTC) == BigKrow2 == Please tell me your really not me @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], I wouldn't be superised. Also @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] and @[[User:Gryllida2|Gryllida2]] @[[User:MeDaWikipedian|MeDaWikipedian]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:03, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :You're accusing me of being that guy who impersonated Bddpaux last year? Is that what you're saying? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:06, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::Honestly I think you are. Trying to sneak back in .... @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:08, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::Why? What basis do you have for that? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:09, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :That shit happened before I created my account, but I saw it happen. Is every new user here going to be accused of being that person then? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:08, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::Prove your innocence then, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:10, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::How? You have to open a sockpuppet investigation into me I guess. Why are you making baseless accusations? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:12, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::I'm just checking but you might be a sock puppet account you changed the article fucks to some other story suspicious. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:13, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::Why is that suspicious? I turned a vandalism article into a stub. You're being silly. Your baseless accusations are disruptive. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:20, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::Prove your innocence, @[[User:MeDaWikipedian|MeDaWikipedian]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:21, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:22, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::Once again -- ''how?'' [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:22, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::I can't check user you right now but, I'm always watching you.... @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:24, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::::Why? Why do you think I am this user? Why do you want to checkuser me? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:30, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::::I have my suspicions. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:33, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::::::So it's just conjecture? I'm not Me Da Wikipedian. Why are you suspecting me of sockpuppetry? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:40, 20 April 2025 (UTC) == I suffer from bad mental health issues == I know my behavior has been negative to you, so by taking responsibility for my words towards you, I just don't want to be blocked from editing Wiki news. And thinking you are a sock is wrong of me. Lofi Gurl you don't have to accept my apology but I do hope you understand where I'm coming from about my mental health. Thank you for listening. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:14, 21 April 2025 (UTC) :Okay? I am never afforded understanding or forgiveness when my mental health issues cause problems in relationships. I'm just frankly tired of this crap. Youve been making me not want to log in [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:18, 21 April 2025 (UTC) ::You can only make your own decisions, I say you keep working get past this and move forward @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:29, 21 April 2025 (UTC) :::Agreed. This was a waste of time. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:17, 21 April 2025 (UTC) == Thank you for not retiring == Thank you for sticking around! Your well needed here. Thanks. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:24, 22 April 2025 (UTC) :🙂🥳👍⚡️ [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 17:22, 22 April 2025 (UTC) == Sources fill ✍️ == Hi, at my personal talk page at Wikipedia there is a user script, which may be copy pasted to [[Special:MyPage/common.js]], that adds a new button in the editor: it prompts for an URL, generates a filled source template for it, and copies it to clipboard. It reliably inserts the source title at least 🤣 In many, but not all, cases it also gets the publisher and date -- though not always in the right "April 22, 2025" format -- properly, too. Then, if in the visual editing mode, I double click the pasted source to fix if needed. Perhaps this could help you save time. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 17:45, 22 April 2025 (UTC) :Yes I was actually going to ask if we could program something like that, because en.wp has it. Thank you! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:59, 22 April 2025 (UTC) ::Is it working for you? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:31, 4 May 2025 (UTC) :::Do you have a link to the script? I tried to access the script from your Wikipedia talk page from the section titled "Script" but it just lead me to a deleted page. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:36, 4 May 2025 (UTC) ::::[[User:Gryllida/common.js]] -> ::::<pre>importScript('User:Gryllida/js/add-source-in-visual-editor.js');</pre> ::::[[User:Gryllida/js/add-source-in-visual-editor.js]] ::::Works in 'Source editing' mode if it is the same toolbar as Visual Editor. ::::It adds a star icon. Clicking it prompts for the news URL, and then a few seconds alter it adds the filled source template at cursor position. ::::Note that date may be missing. Authors usually are missing. Publisher name isn't always correct (needs to be such that you can wikilink to wikipedia). So you need to check what it generated. But at least it gets title and date right 90% of the time for me and it makes writing easier. ::::Hope it helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 06:11, 4 May 2025 (UTC) == Minor edit urgent please? == Hi Lofi Gurl I think it is best of someone adds a source and attribution about the '51' number of injuries. The article was already published, so this needs to be done immediately, so that the approval of the edit can be done within less than 24 hours. Please see [[Talk:Kamikaze_drone_attacks_bus_near_Dnipropetrovsk,_Ukraine,_allegedly_war_crime|this page]] for more details. BigKrow refused to do it, now I have the request for your help as my last hope. Looks like nobody else currently active at the wiki this weekend. Thanks heaps, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:54, 25 April 2025 (UTC) :Hey! Let me know what you think of my revision. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:56, 25 April 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you for the edit. ::If you click the image of the bus, in description, it links to a few sources. One of them is a telegram post by someone, possibly military official from Ukraine. I think it could be added as source and in article text the '51' figure could be attributed to that source specifying their name and whatever role is associated with their nick in telegram. If you can do this soon, I can approve it. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:31, 26 April 2025 (UTC) == Saying hi == @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], how are you? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:05, 2 May 2025 (UTC) :Taking it one day at a time. Thanks for asking. How are you doing friend? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:15, 2 May 2025 (UTC) ::I'm living heh, glad to hear your doing okay. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:17, 2 May 2025 (UTC) == Yo BigKrow == @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] Can I ask a favor? Can you go on the Lady Gaga article and fill out the sources, and then submit for a review? I'm heading into the city to attend a concert at the moment. Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:49, 10 May 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], I got you! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:16, 11 May 2025 (UTC) == How are you? == @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:47, 11 May 2025 (UTC) :Kinda hungover. Didnt get great sleep last night. Slept in my car because I didnt want to risk a DUI after the concert. Im excited to hopefully feel better tomorrow. How are you? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:16, 11 May 2025 (UTC) ::Well I'm here for you my friend. I'm doing alright. Take it easy! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:40, 12 May 2025 (UTC) :::Appreciate it! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:50, 12 May 2025 (UTC) == You ok? == @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:15, 14 May 2025 (UTC) :yeah, i'm fine. thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:28, 15 May 2025 (UTC) == Hi, how do you read me == Hi, I included you at your request into the "pingrr" list recently. You'd've received a few dozens of "RR" echo notifications in the last two weeks. Did they arrive? Could you please tell me what is preventing you from responding to them? Revision requests are an essential part of the collaboration process, and your participation is vitally important. Please provide me with the feedback, it would help me a lot with making this process more efficient and easier for you to use. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:24, 18 May 2025 (UTC) :Sorry, its currently busy season at work. I work in lawn care. I try to make revisions when I can, and I certainly respond more than at least 80% of the people who are pinged. Im sorry my volunteer time is limited at the moment. Several of my articles went stale waiting for review priod to my involuntary wikibreak. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:13, 18 May 2025 (UTC) ::No problem. I just wanted to check the setup is working. Ping me if you have a news story in mind but no time to write of it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:26, 19 May 2025 (UTC) == Top article in April! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Original author for the top article published in April, 2025. The article has at least 1,754 views, the highest for year so far!]] Thank you for starting the article titled "[[Streaming platform Twitch bans rapper Kanye West seven minutes into first stream for performing "Nazi salute"]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in April of 2025, and the highest so far of 2025! Bam! 💥 {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image--> As the original author, you can also use the following userbox on your user page: {{userbox | id = [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025-mini.png|40px]] | info = ''This user was the original author of the [[Wikinews:2025 Boost publication rate/Monthly top article|top article]] for April, 2025'' | border-s = 1 }} {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image--> Thank you for your continued efforts at not only starting new articles but contributing to others as well. Your collaborative efforts are greatly appreciated. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:54, 20 May 2025 (UTC) :Awesome! I can't wait to get back to writing. I have some merciless "{{w|adulting}}" to attend to in my personal life at the moment. When I'm back writing, you'll all know it. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:52, 20 May 2025 (UTC) ::Totally understand. Take care of what you need to, and we’ll be glad to see you back when the time’s right. Looking forward to it! —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:55, 20 May 2025 (UTC) == Come back please == Wikinews needs you, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 15:47, 15 June 2025 (UTC) :Hey. I heard about what's going on. Im going to try to find some free time this week to get some articles written to try to help save the project. Sorry for the radio silence [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:20, 29 June 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], thanks for sticking around! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:28, 29 June 2025 (UTC) == Your stories are stale == Sorry, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:09, 29 June 2025 (UTC) :Are you sure? The gambling story happened Friday and the Beyonce story happened last night, from what I can tell. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:14, 29 June 2025 (UTC) ::You need stories to be '''"fresh"''' even a day old is stale. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:19, 29 June 2025 (UTC) :::Ideally yeah, but it's not stale until seven days have passed since the focal point of the story. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:14, 29 June 2025 (UTC) ::::Ok [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:20, 29 June 2025 (UTC) == Hello from Gryllida == Hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Would you be interested in joining as a reviewer? If you were, I or another reviewer of your interest would be doing it together with you for the first several months to assist. Similarly, would you be interested in helping with page deletions and blocking users, and removing vandalism. Is this something you have done before and do you have an interest? Are there any changes to the workflow that you would consider helpful? Are you on any IM platform such as Discord, Linphone (SIP), Matrix, where we could exchange messages, screenshots, and sometimes audio calls? Regards, - [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:04, 8 July 2025 (UTC) :Hey! That sounds like a good offer. Definitely curious to see what I can bring as a reviewer. I have no expirience blocking users or deleting pages. Give me a few days to sleep on it. Thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:02, 9 July 2025 (UTC) ::Hey Lofi Gurl, and are you on any of the IM platforms? Maybe Telegram? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 17:53, 6 August 2025 (UTC) :::I plan on creating a discord account for my Wiki stuff. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:07, 6 August 2025 (UTC) ::::any luck? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:48, 14 January 2026 (UTC) == Community response to SPTF's recommendation to close ''Wikinews'' == The Wikimedia Foundation’s Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF) has issued a [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|recommendation to close Wikinews]]. A community response to the Task Force is underway and I believe it's critical that we show clear support from contributors, reviewers, and administrators if we want Wikinews to remain open. If you believe Wikinews still has potential for revitalization and should remain active, I ask that you: * Review and help improve the draft community response, and/or * Add your endorsement once you're comfortable with the language The goal is to finalize the draft before the [[m:Event:Community_consultation_on_Wikispore/Wikinews,_call_1|July 16 Task Force call]], so our response is ready for consideration. You can find the draft here: 👉 [[Wikinews:Response to Proposal for Closing Wikinews]] Thanks for considering. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:49, 11 July 2025 (UTC) == Thank you my friend! == Good work on la explosion [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:12, 18 July 2025 (UTC) @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] :Thanks for bringing the story! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:13, 18 July 2025 (UTC) ::We need to block those ips. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:41, 18 July 2025 (UTC) :::I reported them, all I can do. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:47, 18 July 2025 (UTC) ::::I know.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:47, 18 July 2025 (UTC) == Nigerian abductors article == If you can find an image to add (even just a file photo or whatever) -- I think we might be able to get that one published. It could use ''maybe'' one more sentence while you're at it too?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:39, 29 July 2025 (UTC) :Yeah I'll take a look at it. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:44, 30 July 2025 (UTC) == Top article in July! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in July, 2025. The article has at least 3,583 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[20-year-old astrophotographer captures rare solar eclipse on Saturn]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in July of 2025. This is your second barn star for top article! Thanks for your continued, hard work! {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image-->[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:35, 4 August 2025 (UTC) == [[Talk:Several people hospitalized after thousands of hotdogs spill following collision on interstate in Pennsylvania]] == i published article, please check talk page for feedback thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 17:51, 6 August 2025 (UTC) == Live chat software trial == Live chat software trial (August-September 2025) Hi, i am running a software to make live chat easier to use. It requires installation of QuasselDroid on Android, Quassel Client on Windows or Mac or Linux, and I don't know what on iOS (let me know if this is your main platform). The software would connect you to the official IRC channel for Wikinews and stay connected including all chat history, including when you closed the app. I am achieving this by hosting it on my Quassel Core on my server. If you are interested in trying this option, please install the Quassel Client software, and after this is done (not before), ensure you have a working email in your [[Special:Preferences]] so i can email you login credentials, and specify your desired IRC nickname. Please note this is open source software with low bandwidth usage and the communication is only via text, so it is not privacy invasive. This platform is older than the web, irc existed since 1980s. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:03, 7 August 2025 (UTC) :Hi, please install the Quassel Client, it is free/open source, low bandwidth, low RAM and CPU usage :and tell me your desired nickname :I would greatly appreciated if you could use it for a few weeks and then leave me some feedback. This chat platform has 3 reviewers on it, and yourself being sitting in chat all 24/7 via this software could make collaboration much easier as then others could send messages to the group while your device is offline, and you could get notifications on mobile. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:07, 10 August 2025 (UTC) ::I will install this when I get home from the city today. Thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:40, 10 August 2025 (UTC) :::👍 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:42, 10 August 2025 (UTC) ::::I got them downloaded for both Windows and Android. My name can just be Lofi Gurl on there. Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:03, 10 August 2025 (UTC) == Train derails article == Sad event. Excellent coverage, though.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:21, 12 August 2025 (UTC) :Thank you. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:15, 12 August 2025 (UTC) == Re: [[EasyJet pilot dismissed after being allegedly spotted naked and intoxicated in 5-star hotel, reports say]] == Hi Lofi Gurl * please refocus on a recent event with [[WN:IP|inverted pyramid]] and re submit @ [[Talk:EasyJet pilot dismissed after being allegedly spotted naked and intoxicated in 5-star hotel, reports say]] Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:19, 19 August 2025 (UTC) == Re: [[Stunt performer set ablaze for cover artwork of Pink Floyd album dies aged 88]] == can you please try to find a photo of the person in 12h to add to story thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:23, 19 August 2025 (UTC) :The only one I have of him is from Wikipedia and it's fair use only. I don't know how to obtain permission to use that here. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:32, 19 August 2025 (UTC) == Thank you!!! == For your help with the church shooting article! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:25, 28 August 2025 (UTC) :No prob! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:06, 28 August 2025 (UTC) == Thank you == For the help on shark story! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:27, 7 September 2025 (UTC) :No, thank you for getting the story! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:33, 7 September 2025 (UTC) == Top article for August! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Original author for the top article published in August, 2025. The article has at least 2,685 views.]] Thank you for starting the article titled "[[Several people hospitalized after thousands of hotdogs spill following collision on interstate in Pennsylvania]]." As of today, the article has the highest number of page-views of all articles published in August of 2025. {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image--> As the original author, you can also use the following userbox on your user page: {{userbox | id = [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025-mini.png|40px]] | info = ''This user was the original author of the [[Wikinews:2025 Boost publication rate/Monthly top article|top article]] for August, 2025'' | border-s = 1 }} {{clear}} Hot diggity dog, you nailed it![[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:30, 14 September 2025 (UTC) :Congrats for your article! Attracting that amount of readers to a story about a local hot dog spill is not small feat. [[User:Dsuke1998AEOS|Dsuke1998]][[Special:Contributions/Dsuke1998AEOS|AEOS]] ('''[[User talk:Dsuke1998AEOS|talk]]''') 01:09, 16 September 2025 (UTC) ::Thanks guys! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 14:58, 16 September 2025 (UTC) == How are you? == hi pal @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:51, 23 September 2025 (UTC) :Im okay. Moving this weekend. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:51, 23 September 2025 (UTC) == Hi friend == How you doing? @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:13, 6 October 2025 (UTC) == Reviewing == Hi - I'm new here, trying to help out (recruited from elsewiki). I see you've been contributing here a while - is it possible you are ready to become a reviewer? Would that interest you? I'm still learning what's going on here. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 21:26, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :I actually have an open request for reviewership open somewhere haha! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:33, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::I'm trying to get some reform going to save this cite, maybe you have some input. I posted at [[Wikinews talk:Newsworthiness]]... [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 22:40, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::Reviewer permission granted. Congratulations, Lofi Gurl! Just reviewing one story a week would be more than sufficient, I think doing more than that is a risk of burnout. Up to you. :) Let me know if any questions. Thanks, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 02:40, 10 October 2025 (UTC) :::This is awesome news! Yeah, one review per week sounds good to me. Thank you! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:03, 10 October 2025 (UTC) :::: Congratulations! I'll help out however I can. My availability will be short and sporadic likely for the next week. But the goal is not to just hand you the reviewer role and let you learn it on your own (that happened to me). :::: First step is ensuring you now see the "Review" action in the top-right of your browser when you view articles in the review queue. Once you click on "Review" for an article, you should now see an interface that allows you to select options via drop-down menus for the five areas we review. All of those drop-downs must be "pass" for the article to pass. Otherwise the gadget will label the article 'not ready.' :::: Have a look at the following for other advice and info: :::: ::::* [[User:Michael.C.Wright/Review process study/Reviewer lane|Michael.C.Wright/Review process study/Reviewer lane]] (brief overview of full, reviewer workflow) ::::* [[Wikinews:Review checklist|Review checklist]] (process of reviewing) ::::* [[Wikinews:Tips on reviewing articles|Tips on reviewing articles]] (old essay representing the intent of the 'modern review process') ::::* [[Wikinews:Publish checklist|Publish checklist]] (additional steps needed once an article passes review) :::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:21, 11 October 2025 (UTC) :::::Congratulations @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] on becoming a new reviewer! I also think new reviewers might benefit from [[Wikinews:Gadgets and Tools/easyPeerReview|documentation on how to use the easyPeerReview]] gadget (this is the gadget that shows the "Review" option in the top-right tools menu and opens the review template with dropdown options). If any reviewer is interested, perhaps a short guide for the gadget would be helpful. Although, I am not sure if there's already any documentation available for the easyPeerReview gadget. [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:07, 11 October 2025 (UTC) :::::: After some digging I found [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Template:Peer_reviewed#Use_.5BUsing_Easy_Peer_Review.5D this] but it could use expanding. That's something I can do, possibly within the next few weeks if someone else doesn't get to it beforehand.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:22, 13 October 2025 (UTC) ::Hey - I saw your post elsewhere where once again you expressed your frustration at what is going on in this site. I'm sorry if my attempts to get _some_ change going in time to make a difference bothered you, and definitely not happy that no change happened and that people obfuscated the issue on the talk page to the point where nothing was clear. That all speaks to the problems here. There is so much disrespect floating around on this site currently, I do tend to think that there isn't much to be done as it is right now. I fully understand your frustration, and seeing it was part of what motivated me to seek change. This site was in a state of emergency and no one acted to fix it. Anyway maybe I'll bump into you on en.wikipedia proper, I'm sure if you want to you'll find something to contribute; or if not there, who knows where else? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:18, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::Thanks for the message. Your efforts did not bother me at all. It wasn't like this when I first joined. Some of my articles would go stale waiting for review, but it was rare. My previous 8-9 articles over the last few months, and not a single one got reviewed. It is what it is. Yeah, you'll probably see me over at the current events articles on ENWP in the future. At least there you can work at your own pace. Why feel pressure to write fresh content if it can't get reviewed on time anyway? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:30, 4 December 2025 (UTC) ::::Exactly - and the fact that no one was doing the reviews certainly puts out the message - whether true or not - that the reviewers care less about this project than the ones submitting the articles. This is made worse by the fact that there may be more reviewers than article contributors at this point. Regardless, we really needed a short term solution here, and no one was interested (actually, some WERE interested, but it got obfuscated away. Some people even claimed you supported the status quo!) So it goes! At least personally I met a few nice wiki folks I would not have found otherwise. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:57, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::::It could be argued that I was more in a position to make an impact here since I was nade reviwer, but truthfully I just dont really know what I'm doing. I definitely didnt support the status quo, I just was not interested in loosening the site's guidelines. I just cant help but wonder how this looks to the outside -- all these articles getting neglected and trashed while dozens are calling for the whole thing to be shut down. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:16, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::::: With EzPR 2025, we can do partial reviews. So you could start a review and when you get to a point where you want help, you can save the partial review and tag another reviewer for a hand (I'd be happy to help). :::::: Also, if the review process is daunting enough to keep you from doing the review, I think it would help everyone if you could articulate what is holding you back. It could be that the same thing is impacting other reviewers and it should therefore be changed. :::::: You have fresh eyes on the review process and may see things differently than those who have done it for some time.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:06, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::That sounds like it might be worth a try. How do I access EzPR 2025? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:44, 5 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::: It should show up in the Tools menu, the same place EzPR shows up (for me, they are stacked on top of each other in the right-hand sidebar). If you view an article [[Raccoon found passed out in liquor store after drunken rampage|marked for review]], you should see "Review (EPRv2)" in your Tools. That's it. :::::::: If you'd like to start with the [[Raccoon found passed out in liquor store after drunken rampage|Racoon story]], I'll step away from it. Initially to me it looks like a relatively solid article and is light-hearted, with little risk of serious ramifications of libel or defamation if we get it wrong (as opposed to an interview with a prominent figure, for example).[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:10, 5 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::::The EzPR 2025 will not show up automatically like the old one. EzPR is enabled by default for all reviewers as a gadget, while EzPR 2025 is not currently a gadget. :::::::::So @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], if you want to use it, let me know and I can enable/install it for you. After that, you will find "Review (EPRv2)" in your Tools menu. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:21, 5 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::::: Ahhh, sorry. I thought it was now in testing by all reviewers.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:22, 5 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::::::I can enable it for all reviewers by default, so they don't have to manually install it. But I chose not to do that initially because it seems a bit bold to me. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:31, 5 December 2025 (UTC) ::::::::: @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], I went ahead and published the raccoon story. But feel free to jump into the next story you feel comfortable with.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:24, 5 December 2025 (UTC) {{outdent|11}}Sometimes bold is good. ツ I think you've been very careful so far and personally trust that you won't blow anything up. But its your call. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:41, 5 December 2025 (UTC) == Top article in September! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in September, 2025. The article has at least 4,083 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[Shark attack kills Australian surfer off Long Reef Beach, Sydney]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in September of 2025. Your name keeps popping up as a contributor or original author in the monthly top article. Thank you for your continued effort! This was also the highest number of page-views yet this year. {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image-->[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:25, 14 October 2025 (UTC) == welcome back == Hi friend glad to have you back @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:01, 19 October 2025 (UTC) :Thanks. Good to finally have internet again. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:10, 19 October 2025 (UTC) == Hello == Saw your story about Sam Rivers. Unfortunately I am away and cannot review until around mid November. Please check [[Newsroom]] and [[WN:IRC|live chat]] to help with editing other reports as this may help publish yours sooner. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:09, 20 October 2025 (UTC) :Heard. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:23, 20 October 2025 (UTC) == Scoop access == As a reviewer, you should have access to Scoop so that you can receive OR material. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] manages the email server and should be able to set up an account for you. If you haven't done so already, you should reach out and request an account. It might be a while before you're comfortable reviewing OR, and that's okay. It is a bit of a different beast. But you should have access to Scoop now so you can see the material and otherwise use it to assist with developing OR and getting it closer to a publishable state.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:22, 21 October 2025 (UTC) :For scoop account username: it is not the same as your wiki login; unfortunately the email server was not setup for OAuth login. Usually, but not always, it's the legal first name and last name, to make the request more professional in the case you might need to contact one of the OR involved parties to confirm some information; one of the reviewers uses just their first name only for the username and one used their wiki nick. '''Please tell me what username for scoop email you would like.''' Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:51, 21 October 2025 (UTC) == Using EasyPeerReview == Hey there, I finally got around to starting a help page for EasyPeerReview at [[Help:EasyPeerReview]]. Verify you have access to EzPR (you see the Review link in Actions when viewing an article marked with {{tl|Review}}) and have a look at the help page. Let me know if the page is actually helpful. Let me know if you want to jump into a review together or if you have any questions about the process, where to find things, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:42, 12 November 2025 (UTC) :Hi. Sorry for disappearing. I recently moved out of my parents' house and I am working three jobs now. I have not had time for wiki projects unfortunately. I can't lose monentum towards getting my shit together in real life. I hope to have a new laptop this winter and hope to be back going strong around that time. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:06, 15 November 2025 (UTC) :: Get yer shit together, why don't ya? ツ :: No worries. It sounds like you are making the right priorities. 👍[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:24, 15 November 2025 (UTC) :::Thank you for understanding. I just went down from three jobs to two, so I am hoping I can at least start helping out with pre-reviews more regularly. I'm nervous about doing full reviews by myself though. I'm so sorry for falling off the grid. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:16, 20 November 2025 (UTC) == You still with us? == Haven't heard from you in awhile. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:33, 18 November 2025 (UTC) :I'm not really able to contribute in any meaningful way with the amount of free time I currently have. Sorry. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:50, 19 November 2025 (UTC) :Thank you for checking in though homie, the last two months in particular have been pretty challenging for me. But I'm getting through it. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:25, 20 November 2025 (UTC) ::Sending good vibes! You got this! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:44, 20 November 2025 (UTC) ::Please consider to try [[User:Asked42/Taglet]] it is a 5 min a day commitment to a triage process of new drafts, that helps other users a lot. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:55, 21 November 2025 (UTC) == Welcome back == Hi friend @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :Good to see ya [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:41, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :Happy turkey day [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:41, 27 November 2025 (UTC) == My attacks on you as a person == It might sound like the same old thing, but I do in fact apologize to you for my negative attacking of you. You can choose to accept or decline my attempted apologize, thank you again. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:33, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :Its fine, no hard feelings. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:42, 4 December 2025 (UTC) ::Same [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:47, 4 December 2025 (UTC) == Never give up my Friend == I will never lose Faith in you. We have had our spats but positivity is good for us. Hope life gets better. Talk soon? @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:05, 7 December 2025 (UTC) :Yeah, you'll see me around. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:02, 8 December 2025 (UTC) :Sorry for the profane edit summaries today [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:22, 8 December 2025 (UTC) == Wasn't expecting == Hey thanks so much for helping the drug bust story. I wasn't expecting anyone to help it out. My bad abandoning habits. Anyways thank you! You did a great job by the way! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:02, 9 December 2025 (UTC) :Thanks dude [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:18, 9 December 2025 (UTC) == Well done == Great job @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:47, 13 December 2025 (UTC) :thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:50, 13 December 2025 (UTC) == Starting a review == Hi, hope you Are doing well. From [[Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Removal/Lofi Gurl|your comment]], it appears you were struggling to start a review on an article as you mentioned you couldn't find any buttons. For your convenience, I've prepared a Review Launcher. Just [[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)#Review launcher widget|visit the page]], enter the article name you want to review, and click the "Start Review" button. That's it. After clicking Start Review, you will be redirected to the article page, wait for 1-2 seconds and the peer-review form should open for you. Use that form to submit your review result. I hope this isn't too complicated. If at any point you feel lost, just let me know. I understand that you may not be interested in reviewing at the moment, but if the reason is simply not knowing how to start the review, this approach might be helpful. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:31, 21 December 2025 (UTC) :A detailed documentation on how to use the peer-review form is [[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)|available here]]. If you still need more assistance, I can share some screenshots with you via email showing how to use the form. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:33, 21 December 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:44, 21 December 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you so much. I will keep this in mind once I get my head clear. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:12, 23 December 2025 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Barnes and noble stabbing]] (December 26) == Rewrite is requested 1) Please add a note about whether the victim died. This is essential to clarify this, even if the article mentions "murder"; specify whether the victim died on the scene or in an ambulance or in a hospital. Please fix this issue and re-submit for review. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:14, 26 December 2025 (UTC) :Please also move the page. The headline should contain a verb. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:16, 26 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[United States, Florida: A man fatally stabs a Barnes & Noble bookstore shopper, claims 'no cause' to police]] (December 26) == hello, this message is sent to all contributors to the article. some of the comments below may or may not be useful to you, please check them carefully for your future edits or for helping to revise after another user. i did this 1) renamed to clearer headline 2) copyedited second paragraph to replace 'She' with 'The victim' i am requesting further edits: 1) specify source for '9:22pm' 2) add a photo of a barnes and noble book store please do these changes now, and i will sight the edits thank you -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:31, 26 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Keyboardist-guitarist of English rock band The Cure dies aged 65]] (January 3) == Event over 7 days old. Passing as exception in context of following factors * nobody was around on holidays anyway (I am being lenient) * the article is well written * it is obituary about a person's whole life so it is still slightly newsy for a while Please do not consider this as precedent for future articles. Thanks -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:42, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Pile up involving dozens of cars on Japan highway kills two]] (January 3) == comment left by reviewer 1) event dec26 not new anymore see [[WN:Freshness]] action requested 1) please report a newer "more current" event not this old one thanks -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:57, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Residents shelter in place for hours after gas leak outside of Los Angeles]] (January 3) == Published. Congratulations, and thank you for starting, or revising, the article. Notes from reviewer: 1) This is on the edge of being old and no longer 'news', but still acceptable. 2) If AI/LLM was used, please leave a note on the article talk page immediately. This is required. Thank you. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:06, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Welcome back == Hi [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] * Follow these instructions [[Wikinews:Easy_Peer_Review_(2025_version)#Getting_Started|get started]] says "''To use it, go to any article that you want to review (make sure it has the {{tl|review}} template). You will find a "Review (EPRv2)" option in your "Actions" menu (in the Vector 2022 skin) or the "More" menu (in the Vector 2010 skin). After clicking this option, a form will appear at the top of the article.''". are you seeing this button? Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:48, 14 January 2026 (UTC) :no, I am not seeing either of these buttons on articles submitted for review. Im only seeing an option to prevreview. I use the 2010 skin. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:03, 14 January 2026 (UTC) :Nevermind, I FINALLY found it. It was under the "More" tab. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:06, 14 January 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father]] (January 19) == {{Notify_review/notready|article=Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father|author=Lofi Gurl|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:53, 19 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father]] (January 20) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father|author=Lofi Gurl|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:09, 20 January 2026 (UTC) :Credit truly goes to [[User:Gryllida]] and [[User:BigKrow]]. All I did was "get" this story. Thanks for running with it! I will attempt to review some articles this week. I will be forced to wing it. Perfectist anxiety is the only thing holding me back at this point. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:59, 20 January 2026 (UTC) == Hello == Hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] you still around? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:01, 16 February 2026 (UTC) :Hi. Good to see ya. My heart is not in current events at the moment. I plan to resume involvement here when I am convinced I can make more meaningful contributions. It doesn't look like there has been much activity here. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:32, 16 February 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] I agree with you that activity has been a bit hit and miss. Could you please let me know what is the criteria for this? What would convince you that the activity level is adequate? Knowing this could help to reach and maintain activity sooner. 😊 Thank you. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:43, 18 February 2026 (UTC) :::I just think at this point many editors are reluctant to write new articles due to lack of active reviewers, many articles went stale while waiting for review this year. I overestimated what I was able to accomplish as a reviewer, I just don't have the time or focus right now and I'd review articles if I wasn't so concerned about publicly making a mistake. But I think Wikinews needs to be publishing at least one article per day to remain a viable destination for readers and to encourage more participation. I would have done way more these past four months if I didn't have so much crap going on in my personal life related to living situations, employment, transportation and mental health. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:20, 19 February 2026 (UTC) ::::got it thanks it sounds reasonable. one article per day is a goal i saw mentioned more than once. 😊 Thank you. Regards [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:03, 20 February 2026 (UTC) == streak proposal == Hi, I am proposing to setup [[:w:streak]] goals over a 12 week period: for example, * "write one story each two weeks, and [[:wikt:babysit|babysit]] it until it is published" This could be either authoring a completely new article or this could be taking over someone else's article and doing focused editing on it with active collaboration with others until it is published. It is like a [[:wikt:day shift|day shift]] as you are expected to remain available '[[:wikt:on call|on call]]' to address concerns from another user or reviewer. The aim of this is to build a habit of participation with [[:wikt:outburst|outburst]]s of eyeballing the page to collaborate with others -- but not every day, to have breaks and reduce [[:wikt:burnout|burnout]]. Could you please check out at '''[[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Streak_themed_competition_proposal|this section]]''' and let me know what you think? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 03:15, 22 February 2026 (UTC) == Here&comma; hold this == <div style="display:flex;align-items:center;justify-content:center;text-align:center;flex-wrap:wrap;margin:2em 0">[[File:Rainbow trout transparent.png|175px|link=wikipediawikipedia:Trout|alt=a rainbow trout fish]]<div style="width:280px"><p style="font-size: 225%; color: Red;">'''''Whack!'''''</p><p style="font-size: 115%;">''You've been [[:wikipediawikipedia:Whacking with a wet trout|whacked with a wet trout]].''</p><small>{{{1|Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.}}}</small><!--Template:Trout--> </div></div> An award for all your edits made while under the in&fllig;uence&period; [[User:Anohthterwikipedian|Anohthterwikipedian]] ([[User talk:Anohthterwikipedian|talk]]) 00:47, 5 March 2026 (UTC) :Thank you very much. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:49, 5 March 2026 (UTC) ::dont feed into them @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 02:09, 5 March 2026 (UTC) == srry == brah i saw your user page srry. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 17:53, 11 March 2026 (UTC) :I went to the BMV in person and they gave me the steps to get it reinstated so it's all good hopefully. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:11, 11 March 2026 (UTC) == queue == Just noting there are around 5 stories in queue which were created or substantially expanded by me and I would appreciate if you could have a look! I have none I can publish thus far as I was involved in editing. Thank you! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:06, 11 March 2026 (UTC) :alright, I'll take a look! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:08, 11 March 2026 (UTC) ::well done! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 01:16, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :::Thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:22, 12 March 2026 (UTC) == Reviewing and publishing == Thank you for stepping into the review queue. Reviewing can be thought of as a two-part process: 1. [[Wikinews:Review checklist|Review]]<br> 2. [[Wikinews:Publish checklist|Publish]] The publishing process involves updating our Main page with the new article. The easiest way to do this is to use [[User:Asked42/LeadManager]], which you'll need to install using the instructions [[User:Asked42/LeadManager#Installation|provided on the tool's page]]. As long as all of the reviewers publish articles immediately after reviewing them, the 5 leads will stay up-to-date. Let me know if you need help with anything, or if any part of the checklists is unclear. Much of the review and publishing process becomes second nature to experienced reviewers, and it is easy to forget how overwhelming it can feel in the beginning.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:15, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :thank you! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:46, 12 March 2026 (UTC) == The sources section can be the third rail for reviewers == Reviewers aren't supposed to add or remove sources as part of the review process. Any source listed is assumed to have been used to directly support statements of fact in the article (because that is what is required of authors). When reviewers come across paywalled sources in the sources list, they need to stop the review process and ask the contributors to remove it and any statements supported solely by it. This delays publishing, but helps to ensure accuracy, which is more important than rapid publishing.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:46, 12 March 2026 (UTC) : And to be clear, this isn't meant to be a criticism, but hopefully helpful 'on-boarding.'[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:53, 12 March 2026 (UTC) ::Heard, thanks a bunch [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:35, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :FWIW, while I agree that what described above is one option (and is better than removing the problematic source and leaving content unchanged), it is my position that, if a reviewer had time to remove ''both'' the problematic source and the information that came from it, while remaining confident that all remaining information is verifiable, then, that reviewer is allowed to complete the review and publish the page. I believe that the process I have described reduces delay waiting for author to revise, and does not compromise quality of the review process. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:25, 13 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Woman charged with attempted homicide after allegedly firing shots at Barbadian pop singer Rihanna's house]] (March 13) == Hi all... I would lile to request a major rewrite: 1) LA Times is paywalled. Please replace, and ensure new content is fully verifiable; then re-submit for review. Please let me know if this is in error, or any questions or request assistance. Thanks! ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:46, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :I dont understand why these sites let me read it and then paywall the article later. Probably so some free news source can't use it as a source for their own article. :P [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:28, 12 March 2026 (UTC) ::Maybe they let you read the first 2-3 pages and then after a few pages, start to demand subscription. :-( [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:15, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :::lets take a deep breath and continue on. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 01:17, 13 March 2026 (UTC) ::::It should be an easy fix. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:50, 13 March 2026 (UTC) == Front page headlines == Hi, do you know why [[Australian Minister for Energy lowers fuel standards for 60 days amid rising oil prices, panic buying]] did not show up as one of the front page lead articles after it was published? This has been a recurring problem as discussed at [[Wikinews:Water cooler/technical#Improper 'circle']] and [[Wikinews:Water cooler/technical#The lead articles need to be changed]]. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:33, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :I have no idea honestly. Sometimes when I publish an article, there's a button asking me I want to post it to the front page, sometimes there isn't. I don't think hitting the button has really done anything though, at least for me. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:37, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :: You can still use Lead Manager independently of EZPR 2025. If, for some reason you aren't prompted to update the leads after a successful review or you leave the page without clicking the button, you can still do so by going to [[User:Asked42/LeadManager]]. It will allow you to update the leads individually, serially, or in a custom fashion. :: By default, LM pulls in the last five articles into the "title" drop-down field. If you just click in the title field, you will be presented with a clickable list of the last five published articles. You can simply select the target article, "fetch automatically" the first two sentences, tweak the imported text and image if you'd like, then "Start update" will make the changes. :: To get used to the tools and processes, you can likely skip the 'additional options' area and just publish a single article after a successful review.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:28, 13 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], Let me know if you want me to install the LeadManager script for you, so that you can just start using it. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 16:38, 13 March 2026 (UTC) : I have updated the leads to include the article.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:48, 13 March 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground]] (March 22) == <div style="border:2px solid #57DB1E;background:linear-gradient(135deg,#E6FFE6 0%,#F0FFF0 100%);padding:1em 1.5em;color:#1a1a1a;margin:1.5em;border-radius:4px;box-shadow:0 2px 8px rgba(87,219,30,0.15);"> [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|50px|left|link=]] <div style="margin-left:64px;"> <span style="font-size:1.1em;font-weight:bold;color:#2d5016;"> Hi Lofi Gurl! Thank you for your submission! </span><br/> Your article '''[[South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground]]''' has been reviewed by '''{{User|Gryllida}}''', and it has been accepted and published. '''Congratulations! 🎉''' <div style="margin-top:0.5em;"> The reviewer's comments and decision are available on the [[Talk:South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground|article's talk page]]. </div> <div style="margin-top:0.5em;"> Excellent work, please keep it up! We hope you will continue contributing to Wikinews. If you have some time, consider taking a look at other articles currently [[:Category:Developing|under development]] or [[:Category:Review|awaiting review]]. Your help in improving or reviewing them would be greatly appreciated. </div> <div style="font-size:0.9em;color:#555;"> ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. </div></div></div> -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:34, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :That was a weird bug: I specified an empty custom comment, as my clipboard was borked. :Here is a copy... :A few remarks: :1. Having checked sources, I needed to make some changes, such as "near the neck" and not "in the neck", and the bombing incident was last year (not two years ago). Please check the edit history carefully and let me know if any of my changes were incorrect. :2. I am trying to push towards more exclusive content or more closer follow ups here. Could you please either think of the questions to ask the South Korean Army, or, write a follow up report when the investigations completed and drills resumed? :3. Barely newsworthy as this is nearly 5 days old but I think this is fine to publish. :4. For npov balance, recommend including responses from other sources, i.e., from someone who is not a part of the South Korean Army. This may be done up to 24 hours after the story is published. :Overall, this looks great, I appreciate the report!!! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:37, 22 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[7-ton meteor traverses sky over Ohio and several other US states]] (March 27) == Sorry, this report went stale. ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:38, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[AC/DC guitarist Stevie Young admitted to hospital in Buenos Aires, spokesperson says]] (March 27) == Sorry, this report went stale. Did he survive? ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:41, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Might write some today possibly later == thanks @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:07, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :I'll try to do a few reviews before I go out tonight. I'm going to focus on reviews since it's a fair assumption now that nobody will even look at the articles I submit. It's the only way I can try to fix this project's problems at this point. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:13, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Regarding your move of my article == Hello, Lofi Gurl! I think my article is best located at [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts Christians of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians in landmark ruling]] rather than [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts politicians of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians in landmark ruling]], because, of the four defendants convicted in the case, only one is a politician. The other individual is a bishop. The other two defendants are institutions. The only thing that the four defendants, consisting of two individuals and two institutions, have in common is that they are all Christian. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 19:09, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :okay, sorry for the overreaction. I despise religious fundamentalism and bigotry but I just wanted to make sure the title wasn't going after Christians as some sort of ethnic group or something. But then, Christianity is a {{w|universal religion}}, so I'm not sure the same principles apply anyway. No idea why I'm saying this. I have {{w|religious trauma}} from my Protestant upbringing and I listen to Satanic {{w|death metal}} every day of my life, and idk I guess I just didn't want thst influence creeping into my writing and creating a potential conflict of interest. Thanks for the message. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:40, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thank you for letting me know. I actually went to great lengths to balance the article, get perspectives from all sides, sources from all sides, strongly ground the article in the sources, provide perspectives from all sides, and stay neutral and stick to the facts. This is my very first ever Wikinews article. Since you seem to care about both factuality and neutrality, would you mind reviewing the article? I think it is ready for publication. What do you think? --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:27, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :::Yes absolutely. I should have some time to review stuff while dogsitting tonight. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:24, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Thank you for your review. I appreciate most of your edits, but in [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Supreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_Christians_of_crimes_against_the_humanity_of_gays_and_lesbians_in_landmark_ruling&diff=5002549&oldid=5002548 this edit] you removed the global scientific consensus regarding homosexuality saying that it is "emotional language", but it is scientific language that all scientific, medical, psychological, psychiatric, and pediatric associations, institutions, and organisations use to describe homosexuality, especially against false claims such those made in the pamphlet. I used the World Medical Association as a source, but there are thousands of more sources that use that language. The World Medical Association itself is an international federation of over a hundred national medical associations. Attributing that scientific language to the World Medical Association alone would give readers the incorrect impression that only the World Medical Association holds that position, when in fact it is the common position of all scientific, medical, psychological, psychiatric, and pediatric associations, institutions, and organisations in the whole world. Obviously, it would be impractical to cite every single one of thousands of scientific, medical, psychological, psychiatric, and pediatric associations, institutions, and organisations in the world, which is I cited the World Medical Association, which itself is an international federation of over a hundred national medical associations. Is your review complete? Is the article ready for publication? This is my very first ever Wikinews article, so I'm not entirely familiar with process here. Thank you for your help. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 17:49, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :::::We can just say "according to scientific consensus" then. I mostly just thought the passage was really wordy with way too many adjectives. It's close to being ready for publication. I cleaned it up the best I could without making major revisions and all I need to do now is verify all the claims and check for copyright violations. I'll likely do it later tonight. I was severely hungover yesterday and had to go to sleep early, but I'm good now. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:31, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::I'll leave it in your capable hands then! I'm looking forward to the publication of my very first Wikinews article! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 23:11, 29 March 2026 (UTC) Hi, Lofi Gurl! I appreciate your edits and your review, but I think that changing the title made it too vague, and the previous title was more specific. You said that [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Supreme_Court_of_Finland_makes_crimes_against_humanity_convictions_in_landmark_ruling&diff=5002876&oldid=5002875 "Don wanted this title changed I think"], but I actually couldn't find a comment from Don saying that he wanted the title changed. Are you done reviewing the article? Can we publish the article now? --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:28, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I'm concerned I may have made too substantial of changes to the article to remain an uninvolved reviewer. They just announced today Wikinews is closing and I am gutted. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:04, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Your edits seem to be only related to getting the article ready for publicaiton, so that should not be a problem, right? Also, oh no! That's awful! Why are they closing Wikinews? I really put in a lot of work into that article, so is it possible to get it published before? [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 21:10, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::The project is being closed due to low user engagement. The "current events" module on the front page of Wikipedia does a better job at reporting current events than Wikinews. It is much more timely on Wikipedia, and edits can be published faster because i'm pretty sure that project is not subject to the same libel regulations as this project, as wikipedia is not a news publication. By contrast, Wikinews has a rigorous review process to ensure quality, which sounds good on paper, but ultimately fails when the existing reviewers are either unable or unwilling to perform a review in time to get it published. Most articles that did manage to get published on this site were usually posted 4-5 days after the fact, when the news cycle has effectively moved on. Ive had an extremely difficult time getting anyone to even look at anything I've written these last six months here on the project. This is an experience shared by [[User:Tduk]]. There were a few successful publications during that time. But lets be real. Wikinews is a failed experiment. The Wikimedia Foundation doesn't want to pay for the server costs to host this project. They want to focus on Wikipedia. I thought I could help get things moving in the right direction and help save the project from closure, but the truth is I simply overestimated this project abd overestimated what I was able to realistically do. Adderall is one hell of a drug. Anyway, for what its worth, I did deeply care about this project, I thought the concept was so cool, I guess some things just dont work in practice. That pretty much sums it up, let me know if you have any further questions. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:47, 4 April 2026 (UTC) == Just a check-in == ....the India article? Still reviewing that one? Didn't want to mess with it if you are.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:58, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == Please don't bite my head off == Just a heads up Im starting a Miraheze here about English Wikinews, thanks. https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/78142 Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:54, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I'm not going to bite your head off haha. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:09, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::thnx Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:12, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::I guess pinging is getting me in trouble with some people so I'll make it quick, https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::Someone will need to discuss and decide on new name. I asked whether trademarked word 'Wikinews' can be used, and have not got an answer to that, yet. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:32, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == Negativity == You've been a pretty solid contributor and I hope that you don't let the negativity and hypocrisy surrounding this site get to you too much. At least, I've noted how you've been trying to move things more than many others here. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 02:14, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :It's fine. Don't worry. I kind of knew this project was a dead end job and wasn't really worth the effort I was putting in trying to save it. I just kept getting sucked back in every time I tried to quit, so in a way I'm kind of glad the project is closing. It was probably going to devolve to a thing where I assumed most of the workload while the more experienced editors scaled back their involvement with the project, per tradition. Oh well. When one door closes, another one opens. I try to remember [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Lofi_Gurl#En.wn this conversation] when I feel shitty regarding my contributions to this project. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:20, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::I've still got one fresh and one fresh-ish (thanks to you know who) article pending review if you get inspired to try to do something. The most recent one has some pretty unique original reporting in my opinion. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:20, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have nothing left to give this project, unfortunately. Those messages that admin left us, then bailing on the project completely... Lets just say that if I had a single shit left to give, it is definitely gone now. I might still take a look at the article but I cant promise anything. I'm completely demoralized. Do you contribute at English Wikipedia and/or Wikiquote? Thats where you will usually find me moving forward. Let me know if I can be of any assistance on those projects. :::RIP Wikinews, let the record show I believed in you up until the end. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:35, 4 April 2026 (UTC) ::::Yes, I'm a long time contributor to other wiki projects, in fact I'm seen you editing some metal pages that are on my watchlist! I was asked to come on here last year to see if I could do anything to make it start to function, but you saw how that went. Anyway it's up to you if you want to review those articles, I'm not expecting anything. I think there are other things going on here. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 00:17, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :::::Hell yeah! I have made substantial contributions to various extreme metal-related topics on enwp that I am immensely proud of. If you ever need help in regards to improving those articles, you can always drop a message on my talk page over there. I have also been creating articles for niche subgenres of jazz over there. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:11, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::::::You might get a kick out of reading [[Experimental vocalists perform at Downtown Music Gallery]] before it gets deleted... [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:32, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Interested? == I created a news wiki on Fandom, i have one contributor so far. Please let me know it could use your help! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:15, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:16, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :Sure, why not. I created an account and tried to create a discussion post, but it says I have to have an account for four days before I can contribute. Here's the story I was trying to share: [https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/atlanta-gucci-mane-kidnapped-robbed-dallas-pooh-shiesty-big30/] [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:24, 4 April 2026 (UTC) ::OK cool, could you please create a userpage like on Wikinews? Also, I don't know what that glitch could be on the article creation? For now, I will start the article if you're ok with that? Thanks a million! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:39, 4 April 2026 (UTC) ::On my end it says you have not registered (joined). Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:42, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :::Unlike Wikinews Fandom needs you to have a email address. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:05, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/Gucci_Mane_kidnapped,_robbed_at_gunpoint_in_Dallas ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:20, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :::I confirmed my email address so I don't know why it won't let me. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:34, 5 April 2026 (UTC) m2cnejt0rgez5gp757hcdsx48pbtk8g 5005216 5005115 2026-04-05T23:39:27Z BigKrow 2871522 /* Interested? */ Reply 5005216 wikitext text/x-wiki {{retired}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 00:40, 6 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Court ruling upholds TikTok ban unless ByteDance sells stake]] == Hi, @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] published the story. Congratulations. Please review the article history and talk page for feedback from the reviewer. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Suspect in shooting death of UnitedHealthcare CEO fled New York City by bus, police say]] == Hi, I published the story. Congratulations. 🎉 Please review the article history and talk page for feedback. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:33, 7 December 2024 (UTC) :thanks!! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:35, 7 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Manslaughter charges against Daniel Perry dismissed following jury deadlock]] == Published. :-) Please read notes on the talk page. Have a great day. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:51, 7 December 2024 (UTC) == Re: cathedral re-opening == Hello, Published. :-) Please check notes on the article talk page. A copy is included below for your reference: ---- There are important, but not critically essential details missing, for example: * time of day in local time and UTC * that they planned to do speech outdoors but did it indoors because of a storm * (is it needed to write '2024' in first paragraph as we already have publish date further up the page) I could not verify one part: * Sunday 'morning' mass (source 1 says Sunday, source 2 does not say, or something) -- replaced 'Sunday morning' with 'Sunday' The above items can be addressed within 24 hours after publication. The image credit was missing and I added it as a minor edit as a part of the review process. It is required due to the licence requirements. I recommend the author to also become involved in editing others' submissions -- those of them that are newsworthy, at least -- in the [[Newsroom]], if desired. This may help improve their quality and their chances of publication, and provide experience with proofreading and fact checking in addition to writing and authoring efforts. Thank you and keep up the great work. ---- Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:59, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == Pace == Hi Lofi Gurl, there are not many reviewers available, and I think the current queue may take a couple days to be processed. (I am mostly outdoors and away on weekend.) My apologies, and thank you for reading and writing entertaining and specific stories. :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:06, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :No problem, take your time and enjoy your weekend! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:08, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == Revisit articles in review queue == While waiting for articles I've authored to be reviewed, I often revisit them as long as they aren't under review and 'tighten' them up by making sure they conform to the style guide, that facts are correct, I've chosen good images with useful descriptions (and attributed every image), etc. I see that there are style issues in some of your articles currently awaiting review. Please see what you can do to help make the review of these articles easier/quicker. Consider using {{tl|verify}} to point to exactly what source is used for all information so reviewers who verify information can find it easier. This helps tremendously. Thanks. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 15:53, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :Are you able to specify the style issues present in the article as a reviewer, or is it my job to figure that out as the reporter? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:59, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :I haven't checked the article talk pages yet so sorry if this ends up being a pointless question [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:00, 8 December 2024 (UTC) ::It is the author's responsibility to know our policies and guidelilnes, to include the [[WN:Style|style guide]]. Reviewers can and often do correct style issues before publishing but they are not required to. It takes more of a reviewers time to correct for style along with everything else they must check before publishing. See [[Wikinews:Reviewing articles]] to understand all the work that goes into reviewing an article. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 14:24, 9 December 2024 (UTC) == Great job == You are doing a great job here thank you. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:25, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :Thank you, friend! :[[File:Red Wine Toast GIF Animation.gif]] [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == I have a question! == {{tl|helpme}} Say an articles goes stale, or fails review for whatever reason. Am I allowed to splice old material and sources from "rejected" articles and use them in future articles, so long as the subject of the article stays fresh, and new developments keep coming in? Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:36, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :Yes, that's fine. They are released under the creative commons licence indicated in the footer, and you can reuse them at any news articles here or any other place where the licence of content is compatible. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:54, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Impeachment of South Korean president Yoon Suk Yeol fails]] == Hi Lofi Gurl :-) Could you please [[WN:Attribution|attribute]] the "''Political unrest and nationwide protests were expected in response to the axing of the impeachment.''" sentence? Who said this? This would help the sentence to not read as a speculation made on behalf of ''Wikinews''. Let me know if you have any questions, I am happy to help. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:53, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :From the Associated Press article: :{{quote|The vote’s defeat is likely to fuel nationwide protests and escalate political turmoil, and opposition parties could introduce a new impeachment motion when parliament reconvenes next Wednesday.}} [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:56, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :This is amazing: :* [[South Korean Constitutional Court upholds impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol]] :Thank you so much for writing about this topic. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:15, 10 April 2025 (UTC) ::Pretty cool we have four articles of coverage spanning the scandal from start to finish! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:02, 11 April 2025 (UTC) == Wizard of oz slippers story == Hi Lofi Gurl * Missing currency, both in first paragraph and in headline? * Missing specified location where the auction took place. Hope you can assist. Let me know if any questions. Thank you. :-) Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:09, 9 December 2024 (UTC) :I've found the location and left a note about it at the article talk page. I cannot add it and remain available to review. Could you please check and make the edit? Thank you!!! Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:13, 9 December 2024 (UTC) ::I went to sleep before seeing all these. I'm so sorry! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:20, 9 December 2024 (UTC) :::Hi [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] :-) :::What is your time zone? :::Do you receive notifications in right top corner of the page while you are logged in? :::Please note on talk page of the slippers story there is a new message "''@Michael.C.Wright - You can add it and I can review? Please confirm within the next hour, or @Lofi Gurl please add it within next hour. Failing that, I'll add it myself and will require another reviewer to publish. Thanks.''" :::Have a great day. :::Thanks, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:25, 9 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Yeah, and I need to get better at clearing my inbox, apparently. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:44, 9 December 2024 (UTC) :::::I'm eastern standard time I think. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:38, 10 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Left you a '''[[Talk:Slippers_worn_by_American_actress_Judy_Garland_in_1939_film_The_Wizard_of_Oz_break_sales_record,_sold_for_US$28_million_at_auction#Why_the_slippers_were_so_expensive|new message]]''' Hope it helps :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:25, 10 December 2024 (UTC) :::::[[Slippers worn by American actress Judy Garland in 1939 film The Wizard of Oz break sales record, sold for US$28 million at auction]] now published, congratulations. :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:14, 10 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::thank you :) [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:21, 10 December 2024 (UTC) == Coffee::Who == Hi Lofi Gurl, I've left you a new message '''[[Talk:Coffee_prices_surge_to_record_highs_due_to_droughts_in_Brazil,_Vietnam#Who|here]]'''. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:31, 11 December 2024 (UTC) :added a new message now again [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:10, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == Chess article == Please see the talk page at that article.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:44, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == damascus story == i made a few edits. in one sentence needs clarification, i marked it in bold. please check? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:03, 13 December 2024 (UTC) :Hi!! To answer the quesion/comment/footnote you left in the article -- I found a mention of "Saydnaya prison complex" in the BBC source but they don't specify if that was the prison Timmerman escaped from. It was just mentioned that {{w|the White Helmets}} were storming looking for survivors. Hope this helps! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:43, 13 December 2024 (UTC) :Also, I think he left prison the same day the city fell on Monday, which was mentioned in the second paragraph. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:49, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == minor edit & thanks == hi, i have rejected [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Indian_chess_grandmaster_Gukesh_Dommaraju,_18,_becomes_youngest_world_chess_champion_of_all_time&diff=4809824&oldid=prev&unhide=1 this edit] as this wikilink was already included in a previous paragraph. please let me know if i am incorrect! thanks for the other edits to the story. they have made it so much nicer and are timely. i appreciate it and approved the other edits. have a great day, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:45, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :oops didn't see the other link, thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 08:47, 14 December 2024 (UTC) == Edits after publication == Please note that our [[WN:Archive]] conventions generally prevent edits to articles 24 hours after publication. Articles are meant to be a snapshot in time. Edits within the 24 hours after publication should be limited to only correcting any errors not caught in the review process. It is better to have an article fully button-down and ready for publication before requesting review. You are more than welcome, even encouraged to help improve other articles. But please focus that energy on articles in the developing queue and review queue unless the article is actively ''under'' review. That way we catch more errors before review and definitely before publication. Thanks again for joining and contributing! I can't remember the last time I saw ten articles in the review queue. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 16:46, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :[[image:Symbol thumbs up green.png]] [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC) == Requested article == hey, {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} https://abc3340.com/news/local/alabama-talladega-county-sheriffs-office I added this story to requested articles but im not up to starting the article myself... If you can do anything for this would be helpful? Thanks! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :Hi, I'm happy to start articles you bring to me, I'm just not sure this story meets the site's notability guidelines.. I'd have to double check though. Thank you though [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:02, 14 December 2024 (UTC) ::It does and is '''developing''', not much data so far I suppose.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC) ::We also need a second source. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :::we'll play it by ear. This South Korea story is taking way longer than I thought [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:20, 14 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Let's please focus on it being published! My request can always wait, thanks. {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:22, 14 December 2024 (UTC) == please vote == Hi Lofi Gurl :-) '''[[Wikinews:Requests_for_permissions|This page]]''' has a handful of requests open. Could you please cast a vote and/or add a comment, ideally for each of them, at your earliest convenience? Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:19, 15 December 2024 (UTC) == hi here is a news tip about malware == https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ultralytics-ai-model-hijacked-to-infect-thousands-with-cryptominer/ -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:04, 16 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Hundreds of North Korean troops killed fighting Ukrainian forces in Russia]] == Hi. Please see my not-ready review comments on the talk page. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 22:19, 19 December 2024 (UTC) == Why? == Are you making more work for editors? Im not angry just confused.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:50, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :I don't know what you're talking about? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:58, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::You keep abandoning articles mostly you created, why? {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:00, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :What specifically do you mean "making more work for editors"? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:59, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::more work to clean up after you... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:01, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::I'd just delete them if I was able to. Why are you mad? I'm abandoning the articles. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:02, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::not mad, just confused.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::You were acting fine before, what happened? {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::Stop "RIPing" because it's seen as disruptive behavior, sorry but it seems like it. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::That's fine I'm done writing here anyway. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::::Suit yourself..... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::::Then what was your point? Wasting peoples' time? Sad sorry. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::I'm genuinely confused now. What do you mean "wasting peoples time"? What are you talking about? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:08, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::::::The project is to work together with one another not to abandon because theres not much activity right now. I won't argue with you anymore.. Sorry... {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:14, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::::::: '''I didn't do anything wrong.''' [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:16, 20 December 2024 (UTC) == En.wn == Hi. Thanks for, well, contributing here, I guess. So really, if you want to write fast and write prolifically, maybe Wikipedia is a better fit for you than en.wn in its present state. The project couldn't handle a mass influx of even people highly skilled at writing for it (overwhelms the review process, reporters get demoralized). I'm tempted to say that you overestimated the project and what you could do, but that sounds wrong. I don't know why I'm saying all this. You probably already know it. Of what's left, we are overwhelmingly nice people, for what it's worth, and care deeply about en.wn. Just don't, I guess, overinvest yourself in it. One of our colleagues here likes to say "don't get married to your article", so perhaps likewise with the concept and future of the project. Then again, a late editor literally saw himself as embarking on a mission to save human civilization from intellectual ruin and mundanity by making something great out of this project. But he was executing a long term plan, that did transform the project. I don't know what this sounds like. I hope it doesn't sound condescending. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 06:27, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :Just to let both of you know I wasn't trying to attack {{ping|Lofi Gurl}}. {{Ping|Heavy Water}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 13:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :Thanks for taking the time to write this (it didn't come off as condescending). I'll keep it in mind while contributing to the project in the future. Sorry for taking a few days to reply. Been trying to limit internet time. Have a good rest of your weekend! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 05:31, 22 December 2024 (UTC) == Lofi Gurl == I was really being a dink to you, apologies. Feel free to continue to write articles here! {{Ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC) :Consider it forgiven. It happens. Onward! [[file:FPClogogif.gif]] [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC) ::Thank you for creating new news articles you go as fast as you please {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:01, 22 December 2024 (UTC) :::I'm trying to slow down and try to average maybe three per week. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Please write as much as you like and thanks {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:05, 22 December 2024 (UTC) == Welcome back == [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:45, 30 January 2025 (UTC) :Good to be back. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:47, 30 January 2025 (UTC) ::😊 [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:47, 30 January 2025 (UTC) ::Welcome back Lofi Gurl [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:58, 12 February 2025 (UTC) :::thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 08:16, 12 February 2025 (UTC) == Crash Philadelphia story == Hi I copyedited some misspelled words for the article. Hope your well, thanks. {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:51, 2 February 2025 (UTC) :thanks. I'm on my mom's laptop at the moment and she has her shit set up weird, and I can't spellcheck very easily at all right now. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:57, 2 February 2025 (UTC) ::It's ok, do your best. {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:14, 2 February 2025 (UTC) == Paywalled == Can't you work around it? {{Ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:10, 12 March 2025 (UTC) :It's gonna be easier to rewrite the entire article at this point, with like 2-3 sources. The project just kept getting bigger and bigger and I shot myself in the foot (or gave my foot the firing squad, if you will). Using this article's content for Wikipedia. Going to focus on my WashingtonDC/suicide/cop article I have started here. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:19, 12 March 2025 (UTC) == Re: revitalising Wikinews == Hi, I'm reaching out to you as you indicated support for revitalising Wikinews. Here are a few ways to help out, in no particular order: # write new articles by [[WN:SG|style guide]] and [[WN:CG|content guide]] # find news which happened today and share it on [[WN:IRC|live chat]] or [[WN:REQ|a news tip page]] # read drafts in [[Newsroom]], especially those submitted for review, and edit them to make them more comprehensive or more current # read drafts in [[Newsroom]], especially those that failed review recently, and address reviewer's comments quickly and re-submit for review # chat with new authors (of articles in Newsroom) and help them understand the key concepts # subscribe at [[Wikinews:Water cooler]] (there are 5 subforums, open each and click 'Subscribe' link at top - then keep a close eye on your Echo notifications) to help newcomers and help with editing articles when someone requests assistance # chat on [[WN:IRC|live chat]] and help newcomers and reviewers with their review process # help with software development for authoring or reviewing articles, perhaps for the mobile platforms # chat with other contributors on audio or video chat # present notes about how Wikinews works at various conferences via audio and video communucations [as we don't have funds for travel at present] this can be linux, programming, journalistical, or wikimedia themed conferences # figure out how to get someone to do any of the above through a grant, sometimes google summer of code # find high school and university educators who would like to teach their class journalism by asking them to write articles for Wikinews (was done with [[Category:UoW|University of Wollongong]] in the past, and we have extension installed for marking students) # collaborate with [[User:Pharos|Pharos]] on getting more news coverage of the New York City and adjacent areas # proofread, or read, Wikinews articles out loud for Audio Wikinews # make English Wikinews accounts on various social media like twitter, facebook, blue sky app (sp?), others [in consultation with someone on-wiki first] ensuring you're posting new news articles there with appropriate tags, moderate comments, and setup multiple moderators if possible and document which contributor is in charge of which social network account for Wikinews and how articles are being posted there Please let me know which of these points you're most comfortable with, and/or would like to learn. '''''Which points would you like to contribute?''''' Please name up to 3-5 points, if you like. Or suggest your own. :-) I'm happy to connect with you and guide you in any of the above areas. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:54, 16 March 2025 (UTC) :I like alot of these! :#7. I've been meaning to start using IRC for a while. Maybe today's the day. :#8. Not sure what I can do to help with software development but I have a bunch of friends who know code. :#12. I know a few university professors in the history field. :#14. I've never heard of Audio Wikinews. Sounds self-explanatory. How many articles have audio with them? :Thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:02, 17 March 2025 (UTC) == This is terribly overdue! == {|style="border: 8px solid gray; background-color: #fdff7;" |rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[Image:Pencil tip closeup 2.JPG|160px]] |rowspan="2" | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 2; vertical-align: middle; height: .4em;" | '''The Order of the Humble Pencil''' <br> For completing ''5 edits''. |- |style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Great work! Keep it up! --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:12, 17 March 2025 (UTC) |} == Stuff == Some of your (recent) contributions have gone stale. Sorry -- keep at it!!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:27, 18 March 2025 (UTC) == Darn it! == That execution article ROCKED! Is there a snowball's change you could gatwick it? I'll help -- for realz!!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:39, 18 March 2025 (UTC) :Thanks for the kind words! I don't think I can gatwick it -- it went stale on Friday, and there have not been any new developments that I'm aware of. I shot myself in the foot by relying too heavily on a source that I later discovered had an apparent paywall (only the first two days were free I guess). On the bright side, I was able to use alot of it for the Wikipedia article, but I wish I could have gotten it published here! It would have been a good one. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:49, 19 March 2025 (UTC) == You ok??? == Hope your good???? {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:01, 25 March 2025 (UTC) :I've been borderline kind of freaking out lately. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:38, 25 March 2025 (UTC) ::Well, take a few breaths -- back up -- '''re-calibrate the mechanism''' -- and come back soon!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 12:31, 1 April 2025 (UTC) == You've AT LEAST earned this!! == [[File:Wikinews WikiNoob.png|210px|left|This [[Wikinews:Contributing Reporter Awards|award]] is presented to new reporters who have started 10 or fewer news articles.]] Keep at it!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 12:33, 1 April 2025 (UTC) :Ahh thank you!! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:08, 1 April 2025 (UTC) :congrats [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:57, 6 April 2025 (UTC) ::thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 12:58, 6 April 2025 (UTC) == Articles == Your clogging up the queue, please resort to 1 possibly 2 articles at a time. I don't want to see you blocked..... Many of your articles will most likely go stale, or you will abandon them. Sorry for so harsh but its facts... @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:19, 14 April 2025 (UTC) :I've also put a good amount of effort into helping your articles.... Your stressing me out badly.... @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:21, 14 April 2025 (UTC) ::Will you please stop needlessly punctuating ''every sentence'' with "..........."? Because it comes off as needlessly shitty to everyone you talk to and that really isn't something I need to be dealing with. No matter the topic it just sets a negative tone right off the bat. Sorry, "but it's facts." [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:28, 14 April 2025 (UTC) :Coming from a user who constantly abandons articles lol [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:22, 14 April 2025 (UTC) ::It's not funny brah, i should report you! But i wont, your harassing me and wikinews!!! °½<½½½<<½½½;½½ @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:32, 14 April 2025 (UTC) ::your a sock or troll.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:33, 14 April 2025 (UTC) :I found these stubs useful and was pleased. Expanded one yesterday. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:17, 14 April 2025 (UTC) == Interest in notifications for new drafts == Hi Lofi Gurl I'd like to invite you to edit drafts created by other contributors to improve their quality and reduce reviewer load on them, so that more reviewers can review articles written by you. Would you be interested in notifications of the current drafts in the Newsroom, compiled with a note of what the event date and link to article? I can make something like [[User:Gryllida/Newsroom]]. If you're interested, would you like to get notified when article '''is created as a new draft''' ([[:Category:Developing]]) or when it is '''submitted for review''' ([[:Category:Review]])? Many thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:12, 15 April 2025 (UTC) :Yes, I would love that. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:16, 15 April 2025 (UTC) ::Awesome thanks. Which option would you prefer, articles created in Developing or in Review category? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:28, 15 April 2025 (UTC) :::Definitely developing. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:29, 15 April 2025 (UTC) ::::Would you like to get notifications 'instantly' for each new draft, or weekly? ::::Would you be OK if these notifications were delivered to your personal talk page? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:35, 15 April 2025 (UTC) :::::Instantly would be great. Yeah, my talk page would be fine starting out, but if we could find a way for them to only show up in my notifications inbox, that would be good too. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:50, 15 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::great thanks i will try to figure out how to make this work [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:55, 16 April 2025 (UTC) ::May I ask about your devices: how many, what OS, have you used an RSS feed reader before? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:08, 16 April 2025 (UTC) :::I mainly edit on my laptop using Windows 10. No I've never used an RSS feed reader before. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:20, 16 April 2025 (UTC) == idaho police story == published after an edit to write in active voice, great writeup thanks heaps [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:54, 16 April 2025 (UTC) == Don't edit my articles == Thanks [[Special:Contributions/64.39.81.71|64.39.81.71]] ([[User talk:64.39.81.71|talk]]) 17:11, 17 April 2025 (UTC) @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] :Why not? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:34, 17 April 2025 (UTC) ::Sorry got ahead of myself [[Special:Contributions/64.39.81.71|64.39.81.71]] ([[User talk:64.39.81.71|talk]]) 18:32, 17 April 2025 (UTC) :Anyone can edit anyone's article. This is not bbc nor a blog. Articles belong to Wikinews, not to individual authors. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:51, 17 April 2025 (UTC) == [[Suspect taken into custody and charged after Pennsylvania governor Josh Shapiro is forced to evacuate gubernatorial mansion with family following suspected arson attack]][ == is there a court date scheduled for this? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:37, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :Ill look into it when i ge5 home [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:54, 20 April 2025 (UTC) == Hello == I just wanted to say hi. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:57, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :Hey BigKrow! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:47, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::I seem to have an imposter, a pain in my side, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], @[[User:BigKrow2|BigKrow2]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:49, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::Also @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], @[[User:Gryllida2|Gryllida2]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:50, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], notified. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:50, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::I really hope this is just some random child that doesn't know the actual severity of what they're doing here. But that is clearly someone who has been kicked from the project multiple times. Just ignore the humanoid. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:58, 20 April 2025 (UTC) == BigKrow2 == Please tell me your really not me @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], I wouldn't be superised. Also @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] and @[[User:Gryllida2|Gryllida2]] @[[User:MeDaWikipedian|MeDaWikipedian]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:03, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :You're accusing me of being that guy who impersonated Bddpaux last year? Is that what you're saying? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:06, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::Honestly I think you are. Trying to sneak back in .... @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:08, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::Why? What basis do you have for that? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:09, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :That shit happened before I created my account, but I saw it happen. Is every new user here going to be accused of being that person then? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:08, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::Prove your innocence then, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:10, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::How? You have to open a sockpuppet investigation into me I guess. Why are you making baseless accusations? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:12, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::I'm just checking but you might be a sock puppet account you changed the article fucks to some other story suspicious. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:13, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::Why is that suspicious? I turned a vandalism article into a stub. You're being silly. Your baseless accusations are disruptive. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:20, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::Prove your innocence, @[[User:MeDaWikipedian|MeDaWikipedian]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:21, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:22, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::Once again -- ''how?'' [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:22, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::I can't check user you right now but, I'm always watching you.... @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:24, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::::Why? Why do you think I am this user? Why do you want to checkuser me? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:30, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::::I have my suspicions. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:33, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::::::So it's just conjecture? I'm not Me Da Wikipedian. Why are you suspecting me of sockpuppetry? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:40, 20 April 2025 (UTC) == I suffer from bad mental health issues == I know my behavior has been negative to you, so by taking responsibility for my words towards you, I just don't want to be blocked from editing Wiki news. And thinking you are a sock is wrong of me. Lofi Gurl you don't have to accept my apology but I do hope you understand where I'm coming from about my mental health. Thank you for listening. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:14, 21 April 2025 (UTC) :Okay? I am never afforded understanding or forgiveness when my mental health issues cause problems in relationships. I'm just frankly tired of this crap. Youve been making me not want to log in [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:18, 21 April 2025 (UTC) ::You can only make your own decisions, I say you keep working get past this and move forward @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:29, 21 April 2025 (UTC) :::Agreed. This was a waste of time. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:17, 21 April 2025 (UTC) == Thank you for not retiring == Thank you for sticking around! Your well needed here. Thanks. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:24, 22 April 2025 (UTC) :🙂🥳👍⚡️ [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 17:22, 22 April 2025 (UTC) == Sources fill ✍️ == Hi, at my personal talk page at Wikipedia there is a user script, which may be copy pasted to [[Special:MyPage/common.js]], that adds a new button in the editor: it prompts for an URL, generates a filled source template for it, and copies it to clipboard. It reliably inserts the source title at least 🤣 In many, but not all, cases it also gets the publisher and date -- though not always in the right "April 22, 2025" format -- properly, too. Then, if in the visual editing mode, I double click the pasted source to fix if needed. Perhaps this could help you save time. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 17:45, 22 April 2025 (UTC) :Yes I was actually going to ask if we could program something like that, because en.wp has it. Thank you! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:59, 22 April 2025 (UTC) ::Is it working for you? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:31, 4 May 2025 (UTC) :::Do you have a link to the script? I tried to access the script from your Wikipedia talk page from the section titled "Script" but it just lead me to a deleted page. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:36, 4 May 2025 (UTC) ::::[[User:Gryllida/common.js]] -> ::::<pre>importScript('User:Gryllida/js/add-source-in-visual-editor.js');</pre> ::::[[User:Gryllida/js/add-source-in-visual-editor.js]] ::::Works in 'Source editing' mode if it is the same toolbar as Visual Editor. ::::It adds a star icon. Clicking it prompts for the news URL, and then a few seconds alter it adds the filled source template at cursor position. ::::Note that date may be missing. Authors usually are missing. Publisher name isn't always correct (needs to be such that you can wikilink to wikipedia). So you need to check what it generated. But at least it gets title and date right 90% of the time for me and it makes writing easier. ::::Hope it helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 06:11, 4 May 2025 (UTC) == Minor edit urgent please? == Hi Lofi Gurl I think it is best of someone adds a source and attribution about the '51' number of injuries. The article was already published, so this needs to be done immediately, so that the approval of the edit can be done within less than 24 hours. Please see [[Talk:Kamikaze_drone_attacks_bus_near_Dnipropetrovsk,_Ukraine,_allegedly_war_crime|this page]] for more details. BigKrow refused to do it, now I have the request for your help as my last hope. Looks like nobody else currently active at the wiki this weekend. Thanks heaps, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:54, 25 April 2025 (UTC) :Hey! Let me know what you think of my revision. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:56, 25 April 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you for the edit. ::If you click the image of the bus, in description, it links to a few sources. One of them is a telegram post by someone, possibly military official from Ukraine. I think it could be added as source and in article text the '51' figure could be attributed to that source specifying their name and whatever role is associated with their nick in telegram. If you can do this soon, I can approve it. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:31, 26 April 2025 (UTC) == Saying hi == @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], how are you? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:05, 2 May 2025 (UTC) :Taking it one day at a time. Thanks for asking. How are you doing friend? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:15, 2 May 2025 (UTC) ::I'm living heh, glad to hear your doing okay. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:17, 2 May 2025 (UTC) == Yo BigKrow == @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] Can I ask a favor? Can you go on the Lady Gaga article and fill out the sources, and then submit for a review? I'm heading into the city to attend a concert at the moment. Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:49, 10 May 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], I got you! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:16, 11 May 2025 (UTC) == How are you? == @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:47, 11 May 2025 (UTC) :Kinda hungover. Didnt get great sleep last night. Slept in my car because I didnt want to risk a DUI after the concert. Im excited to hopefully feel better tomorrow. How are you? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:16, 11 May 2025 (UTC) ::Well I'm here for you my friend. I'm doing alright. Take it easy! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:40, 12 May 2025 (UTC) :::Appreciate it! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:50, 12 May 2025 (UTC) == You ok? == @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:15, 14 May 2025 (UTC) :yeah, i'm fine. thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:28, 15 May 2025 (UTC) == Hi, how do you read me == Hi, I included you at your request into the "pingrr" list recently. You'd've received a few dozens of "RR" echo notifications in the last two weeks. Did they arrive? Could you please tell me what is preventing you from responding to them? Revision requests are an essential part of the collaboration process, and your participation is vitally important. Please provide me with the feedback, it would help me a lot with making this process more efficient and easier for you to use. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:24, 18 May 2025 (UTC) :Sorry, its currently busy season at work. I work in lawn care. I try to make revisions when I can, and I certainly respond more than at least 80% of the people who are pinged. Im sorry my volunteer time is limited at the moment. Several of my articles went stale waiting for review priod to my involuntary wikibreak. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:13, 18 May 2025 (UTC) ::No problem. I just wanted to check the setup is working. Ping me if you have a news story in mind but no time to write of it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:26, 19 May 2025 (UTC) == Top article in April! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Original author for the top article published in April, 2025. The article has at least 1,754 views, the highest for year so far!]] Thank you for starting the article titled "[[Streaming platform Twitch bans rapper Kanye West seven minutes into first stream for performing "Nazi salute"]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in April of 2025, and the highest so far of 2025! Bam! 💥 {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image--> As the original author, you can also use the following userbox on your user page: {{userbox | id = [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025-mini.png|40px]] | info = ''This user was the original author of the [[Wikinews:2025 Boost publication rate/Monthly top article|top article]] for April, 2025'' | border-s = 1 }} {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image--> Thank you for your continued efforts at not only starting new articles but contributing to others as well. Your collaborative efforts are greatly appreciated. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:54, 20 May 2025 (UTC) :Awesome! I can't wait to get back to writing. I have some merciless "{{w|adulting}}" to attend to in my personal life at the moment. When I'm back writing, you'll all know it. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:52, 20 May 2025 (UTC) ::Totally understand. Take care of what you need to, and we’ll be glad to see you back when the time’s right. Looking forward to it! —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:55, 20 May 2025 (UTC) == Come back please == Wikinews needs you, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 15:47, 15 June 2025 (UTC) :Hey. I heard about what's going on. Im going to try to find some free time this week to get some articles written to try to help save the project. Sorry for the radio silence [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:20, 29 June 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], thanks for sticking around! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:28, 29 June 2025 (UTC) == Your stories are stale == Sorry, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:09, 29 June 2025 (UTC) :Are you sure? The gambling story happened Friday and the Beyonce story happened last night, from what I can tell. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:14, 29 June 2025 (UTC) ::You need stories to be '''"fresh"''' even a day old is stale. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:19, 29 June 2025 (UTC) :::Ideally yeah, but it's not stale until seven days have passed since the focal point of the story. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:14, 29 June 2025 (UTC) ::::Ok [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:20, 29 June 2025 (UTC) == Hello from Gryllida == Hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Would you be interested in joining as a reviewer? If you were, I or another reviewer of your interest would be doing it together with you for the first several months to assist. Similarly, would you be interested in helping with page deletions and blocking users, and removing vandalism. Is this something you have done before and do you have an interest? Are there any changes to the workflow that you would consider helpful? Are you on any IM platform such as Discord, Linphone (SIP), Matrix, where we could exchange messages, screenshots, and sometimes audio calls? Regards, - [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:04, 8 July 2025 (UTC) :Hey! That sounds like a good offer. Definitely curious to see what I can bring as a reviewer. I have no expirience blocking users or deleting pages. Give me a few days to sleep on it. Thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:02, 9 July 2025 (UTC) ::Hey Lofi Gurl, and are you on any of the IM platforms? Maybe Telegram? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 17:53, 6 August 2025 (UTC) :::I plan on creating a discord account for my Wiki stuff. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:07, 6 August 2025 (UTC) ::::any luck? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:48, 14 January 2026 (UTC) == Community response to SPTF's recommendation to close ''Wikinews'' == The Wikimedia Foundation’s Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF) has issued a [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|recommendation to close Wikinews]]. A community response to the Task Force is underway and I believe it's critical that we show clear support from contributors, reviewers, and administrators if we want Wikinews to remain open. If you believe Wikinews still has potential for revitalization and should remain active, I ask that you: * Review and help improve the draft community response, and/or * Add your endorsement once you're comfortable with the language The goal is to finalize the draft before the [[m:Event:Community_consultation_on_Wikispore/Wikinews,_call_1|July 16 Task Force call]], so our response is ready for consideration. You can find the draft here: 👉 [[Wikinews:Response to Proposal for Closing Wikinews]] Thanks for considering. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:49, 11 July 2025 (UTC) == Thank you my friend! == Good work on la explosion [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:12, 18 July 2025 (UTC) @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] :Thanks for bringing the story! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:13, 18 July 2025 (UTC) ::We need to block those ips. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:41, 18 July 2025 (UTC) :::I reported them, all I can do. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:47, 18 July 2025 (UTC) ::::I know.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:47, 18 July 2025 (UTC) == Nigerian abductors article == If you can find an image to add (even just a file photo or whatever) -- I think we might be able to get that one published. It could use ''maybe'' one more sentence while you're at it too?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:39, 29 July 2025 (UTC) :Yeah I'll take a look at it. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:44, 30 July 2025 (UTC) == Top article in July! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in July, 2025. The article has at least 3,583 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[20-year-old astrophotographer captures rare solar eclipse on Saturn]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in July of 2025. This is your second barn star for top article! Thanks for your continued, hard work! {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image-->[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:35, 4 August 2025 (UTC) == [[Talk:Several people hospitalized after thousands of hotdogs spill following collision on interstate in Pennsylvania]] == i published article, please check talk page for feedback thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 17:51, 6 August 2025 (UTC) == Live chat software trial == Live chat software trial (August-September 2025) Hi, i am running a software to make live chat easier to use. It requires installation of QuasselDroid on Android, Quassel Client on Windows or Mac or Linux, and I don't know what on iOS (let me know if this is your main platform). The software would connect you to the official IRC channel for Wikinews and stay connected including all chat history, including when you closed the app. I am achieving this by hosting it on my Quassel Core on my server. If you are interested in trying this option, please install the Quassel Client software, and after this is done (not before), ensure you have a working email in your [[Special:Preferences]] so i can email you login credentials, and specify your desired IRC nickname. Please note this is open source software with low bandwidth usage and the communication is only via text, so it is not privacy invasive. This platform is older than the web, irc existed since 1980s. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:03, 7 August 2025 (UTC) :Hi, please install the Quassel Client, it is free/open source, low bandwidth, low RAM and CPU usage :and tell me your desired nickname :I would greatly appreciated if you could use it for a few weeks and then leave me some feedback. This chat platform has 3 reviewers on it, and yourself being sitting in chat all 24/7 via this software could make collaboration much easier as then others could send messages to the group while your device is offline, and you could get notifications on mobile. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:07, 10 August 2025 (UTC) ::I will install this when I get home from the city today. Thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:40, 10 August 2025 (UTC) :::👍 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:42, 10 August 2025 (UTC) ::::I got them downloaded for both Windows and Android. My name can just be Lofi Gurl on there. Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:03, 10 August 2025 (UTC) == Train derails article == Sad event. Excellent coverage, though.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:21, 12 August 2025 (UTC) :Thank you. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:15, 12 August 2025 (UTC) == Re: [[EasyJet pilot dismissed after being allegedly spotted naked and intoxicated in 5-star hotel, reports say]] == Hi Lofi Gurl * please refocus on a recent event with [[WN:IP|inverted pyramid]] and re submit @ [[Talk:EasyJet pilot dismissed after being allegedly spotted naked and intoxicated in 5-star hotel, reports say]] Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:19, 19 August 2025 (UTC) == Re: [[Stunt performer set ablaze for cover artwork of Pink Floyd album dies aged 88]] == can you please try to find a photo of the person in 12h to add to story thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:23, 19 August 2025 (UTC) :The only one I have of him is from Wikipedia and it's fair use only. I don't know how to obtain permission to use that here. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:32, 19 August 2025 (UTC) == Thank you!!! == For your help with the church shooting article! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:25, 28 August 2025 (UTC) :No prob! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:06, 28 August 2025 (UTC) == Thank you == For the help on shark story! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:27, 7 September 2025 (UTC) :No, thank you for getting the story! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:33, 7 September 2025 (UTC) == Top article for August! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Original author for the top article published in August, 2025. The article has at least 2,685 views.]] Thank you for starting the article titled "[[Several people hospitalized after thousands of hotdogs spill following collision on interstate in Pennsylvania]]." As of today, the article has the highest number of page-views of all articles published in August of 2025. {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image--> As the original author, you can also use the following userbox on your user page: {{userbox | id = [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025-mini.png|40px]] | info = ''This user was the original author of the [[Wikinews:2025 Boost publication rate/Monthly top article|top article]] for August, 2025'' | border-s = 1 }} {{clear}} Hot diggity dog, you nailed it![[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:30, 14 September 2025 (UTC) :Congrats for your article! Attracting that amount of readers to a story about a local hot dog spill is not small feat. [[User:Dsuke1998AEOS|Dsuke1998]][[Special:Contributions/Dsuke1998AEOS|AEOS]] ('''[[User talk:Dsuke1998AEOS|talk]]''') 01:09, 16 September 2025 (UTC) ::Thanks guys! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 14:58, 16 September 2025 (UTC) == How are you? == hi pal @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:51, 23 September 2025 (UTC) :Im okay. Moving this weekend. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:51, 23 September 2025 (UTC) == Hi friend == How you doing? @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:13, 6 October 2025 (UTC) == Reviewing == Hi - I'm new here, trying to help out (recruited from elsewiki). I see you've been contributing here a while - is it possible you are ready to become a reviewer? Would that interest you? I'm still learning what's going on here. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 21:26, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :I actually have an open request for reviewership open somewhere haha! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:33, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::I'm trying to get some reform going to save this cite, maybe you have some input. I posted at [[Wikinews talk:Newsworthiness]]... [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 22:40, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::Reviewer permission granted. Congratulations, Lofi Gurl! Just reviewing one story a week would be more than sufficient, I think doing more than that is a risk of burnout. Up to you. :) Let me know if any questions. Thanks, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 02:40, 10 October 2025 (UTC) :::This is awesome news! Yeah, one review per week sounds good to me. Thank you! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:03, 10 October 2025 (UTC) :::: Congratulations! I'll help out however I can. My availability will be short and sporadic likely for the next week. But the goal is not to just hand you the reviewer role and let you learn it on your own (that happened to me). :::: First step is ensuring you now see the "Review" action in the top-right of your browser when you view articles in the review queue. Once you click on "Review" for an article, you should now see an interface that allows you to select options via drop-down menus for the five areas we review. All of those drop-downs must be "pass" for the article to pass. Otherwise the gadget will label the article 'not ready.' :::: Have a look at the following for other advice and info: :::: ::::* [[User:Michael.C.Wright/Review process study/Reviewer lane|Michael.C.Wright/Review process study/Reviewer lane]] (brief overview of full, reviewer workflow) ::::* [[Wikinews:Review checklist|Review checklist]] (process of reviewing) ::::* [[Wikinews:Tips on reviewing articles|Tips on reviewing articles]] (old essay representing the intent of the 'modern review process') ::::* [[Wikinews:Publish checklist|Publish checklist]] (additional steps needed once an article passes review) :::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:21, 11 October 2025 (UTC) :::::Congratulations @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] on becoming a new reviewer! I also think new reviewers might benefit from [[Wikinews:Gadgets and Tools/easyPeerReview|documentation on how to use the easyPeerReview]] gadget (this is the gadget that shows the "Review" option in the top-right tools menu and opens the review template with dropdown options). If any reviewer is interested, perhaps a short guide for the gadget would be helpful. Although, I am not sure if there's already any documentation available for the easyPeerReview gadget. [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:07, 11 October 2025 (UTC) :::::: After some digging I found [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Template:Peer_reviewed#Use_.5BUsing_Easy_Peer_Review.5D this] but it could use expanding. That's something I can do, possibly within the next few weeks if someone else doesn't get to it beforehand.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:22, 13 October 2025 (UTC) ::Hey - I saw your post elsewhere where once again you expressed your frustration at what is going on in this site. I'm sorry if my attempts to get _some_ change going in time to make a difference bothered you, and definitely not happy that no change happened and that people obfuscated the issue on the talk page to the point where nothing was clear. That all speaks to the problems here. There is so much disrespect floating around on this site currently, I do tend to think that there isn't much to be done as it is right now. I fully understand your frustration, and seeing it was part of what motivated me to seek change. This site was in a state of emergency and no one acted to fix it. Anyway maybe I'll bump into you on en.wikipedia proper, I'm sure if you want to you'll find something to contribute; or if not there, who knows where else? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:18, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::Thanks for the message. Your efforts did not bother me at all. It wasn't like this when I first joined. Some of my articles would go stale waiting for review, but it was rare. My previous 8-9 articles over the last few months, and not a single one got reviewed. It is what it is. Yeah, you'll probably see me over at the current events articles on ENWP in the future. At least there you can work at your own pace. Why feel pressure to write fresh content if it can't get reviewed on time anyway? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:30, 4 December 2025 (UTC) ::::Exactly - and the fact that no one was doing the reviews certainly puts out the message - whether true or not - that the reviewers care less about this project than the ones submitting the articles. This is made worse by the fact that there may be more reviewers than article contributors at this point. Regardless, we really needed a short term solution here, and no one was interested (actually, some WERE interested, but it got obfuscated away. Some people even claimed you supported the status quo!) So it goes! At least personally I met a few nice wiki folks I would not have found otherwise. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:57, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::::It could be argued that I was more in a position to make an impact here since I was nade reviwer, but truthfully I just dont really know what I'm doing. I definitely didnt support the status quo, I just was not interested in loosening the site's guidelines. I just cant help but wonder how this looks to the outside -- all these articles getting neglected and trashed while dozens are calling for the whole thing to be shut down. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:16, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::::: With EzPR 2025, we can do partial reviews. So you could start a review and when you get to a point where you want help, you can save the partial review and tag another reviewer for a hand (I'd be happy to help). :::::: Also, if the review process is daunting enough to keep you from doing the review, I think it would help everyone if you could articulate what is holding you back. It could be that the same thing is impacting other reviewers and it should therefore be changed. :::::: You have fresh eyes on the review process and may see things differently than those who have done it for some time.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:06, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::That sounds like it might be worth a try. How do I access EzPR 2025? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:44, 5 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::: It should show up in the Tools menu, the same place EzPR shows up (for me, they are stacked on top of each other in the right-hand sidebar). If you view an article [[Raccoon found passed out in liquor store after drunken rampage|marked for review]], you should see "Review (EPRv2)" in your Tools. That's it. :::::::: If you'd like to start with the [[Raccoon found passed out in liquor store after drunken rampage|Racoon story]], I'll step away from it. Initially to me it looks like a relatively solid article and is light-hearted, with little risk of serious ramifications of libel or defamation if we get it wrong (as opposed to an interview with a prominent figure, for example).[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:10, 5 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::::The EzPR 2025 will not show up automatically like the old one. EzPR is enabled by default for all reviewers as a gadget, while EzPR 2025 is not currently a gadget. :::::::::So @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], if you want to use it, let me know and I can enable/install it for you. After that, you will find "Review (EPRv2)" in your Tools menu. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:21, 5 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::::: Ahhh, sorry. I thought it was now in testing by all reviewers.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:22, 5 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::::::I can enable it for all reviewers by default, so they don't have to manually install it. But I chose not to do that initially because it seems a bit bold to me. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:31, 5 December 2025 (UTC) ::::::::: @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], I went ahead and published the raccoon story. But feel free to jump into the next story you feel comfortable with.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:24, 5 December 2025 (UTC) {{outdent|11}}Sometimes bold is good. ツ I think you've been very careful so far and personally trust that you won't blow anything up. But its your call. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:41, 5 December 2025 (UTC) == Top article in September! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in September, 2025. The article has at least 4,083 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[Shark attack kills Australian surfer off Long Reef Beach, Sydney]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in September of 2025. Your name keeps popping up as a contributor or original author in the monthly top article. Thank you for your continued effort! This was also the highest number of page-views yet this year. {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image-->[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:25, 14 October 2025 (UTC) == welcome back == Hi friend glad to have you back @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:01, 19 October 2025 (UTC) :Thanks. Good to finally have internet again. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:10, 19 October 2025 (UTC) == Hello == Saw your story about Sam Rivers. Unfortunately I am away and cannot review until around mid November. Please check [[Newsroom]] and [[WN:IRC|live chat]] to help with editing other reports as this may help publish yours sooner. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:09, 20 October 2025 (UTC) :Heard. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:23, 20 October 2025 (UTC) == Scoop access == As a reviewer, you should have access to Scoop so that you can receive OR material. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] manages the email server and should be able to set up an account for you. If you haven't done so already, you should reach out and request an account. It might be a while before you're comfortable reviewing OR, and that's okay. It is a bit of a different beast. But you should have access to Scoop now so you can see the material and otherwise use it to assist with developing OR and getting it closer to a publishable state.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:22, 21 October 2025 (UTC) :For scoop account username: it is not the same as your wiki login; unfortunately the email server was not setup for OAuth login. Usually, but not always, it's the legal first name and last name, to make the request more professional in the case you might need to contact one of the OR involved parties to confirm some information; one of the reviewers uses just their first name only for the username and one used their wiki nick. '''Please tell me what username for scoop email you would like.''' Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:51, 21 October 2025 (UTC) == Using EasyPeerReview == Hey there, I finally got around to starting a help page for EasyPeerReview at [[Help:EasyPeerReview]]. Verify you have access to EzPR (you see the Review link in Actions when viewing an article marked with {{tl|Review}}) and have a look at the help page. Let me know if the page is actually helpful. Let me know if you want to jump into a review together or if you have any questions about the process, where to find things, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:42, 12 November 2025 (UTC) :Hi. Sorry for disappearing. I recently moved out of my parents' house and I am working three jobs now. I have not had time for wiki projects unfortunately. I can't lose monentum towards getting my shit together in real life. I hope to have a new laptop this winter and hope to be back going strong around that time. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:06, 15 November 2025 (UTC) :: Get yer shit together, why don't ya? ツ :: No worries. It sounds like you are making the right priorities. 👍[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:24, 15 November 2025 (UTC) :::Thank you for understanding. I just went down from three jobs to two, so I am hoping I can at least start helping out with pre-reviews more regularly. I'm nervous about doing full reviews by myself though. I'm so sorry for falling off the grid. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:16, 20 November 2025 (UTC) == You still with us? == Haven't heard from you in awhile. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:33, 18 November 2025 (UTC) :I'm not really able to contribute in any meaningful way with the amount of free time I currently have. Sorry. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:50, 19 November 2025 (UTC) :Thank you for checking in though homie, the last two months in particular have been pretty challenging for me. But I'm getting through it. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:25, 20 November 2025 (UTC) ::Sending good vibes! You got this! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:44, 20 November 2025 (UTC) ::Please consider to try [[User:Asked42/Taglet]] it is a 5 min a day commitment to a triage process of new drafts, that helps other users a lot. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:55, 21 November 2025 (UTC) == Welcome back == Hi friend @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :Good to see ya [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:41, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :Happy turkey day [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:41, 27 November 2025 (UTC) == My attacks on you as a person == It might sound like the same old thing, but I do in fact apologize to you for my negative attacking of you. You can choose to accept or decline my attempted apologize, thank you again. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:33, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :Its fine, no hard feelings. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:42, 4 December 2025 (UTC) ::Same [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:47, 4 December 2025 (UTC) == Never give up my Friend == I will never lose Faith in you. We have had our spats but positivity is good for us. Hope life gets better. Talk soon? @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:05, 7 December 2025 (UTC) :Yeah, you'll see me around. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:02, 8 December 2025 (UTC) :Sorry for the profane edit summaries today [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:22, 8 December 2025 (UTC) == Wasn't expecting == Hey thanks so much for helping the drug bust story. I wasn't expecting anyone to help it out. My bad abandoning habits. Anyways thank you! You did a great job by the way! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:02, 9 December 2025 (UTC) :Thanks dude [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:18, 9 December 2025 (UTC) == Well done == Great job @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:47, 13 December 2025 (UTC) :thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:50, 13 December 2025 (UTC) == Starting a review == Hi, hope you Are doing well. From [[Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Removal/Lofi Gurl|your comment]], it appears you were struggling to start a review on an article as you mentioned you couldn't find any buttons. For your convenience, I've prepared a Review Launcher. Just [[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)#Review launcher widget|visit the page]], enter the article name you want to review, and click the "Start Review" button. That's it. After clicking Start Review, you will be redirected to the article page, wait for 1-2 seconds and the peer-review form should open for you. Use that form to submit your review result. I hope this isn't too complicated. If at any point you feel lost, just let me know. I understand that you may not be interested in reviewing at the moment, but if the reason is simply not knowing how to start the review, this approach might be helpful. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:31, 21 December 2025 (UTC) :A detailed documentation on how to use the peer-review form is [[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)|available here]]. If you still need more assistance, I can share some screenshots with you via email showing how to use the form. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:33, 21 December 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:44, 21 December 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you so much. I will keep this in mind once I get my head clear. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:12, 23 December 2025 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Barnes and noble stabbing]] (December 26) == Rewrite is requested 1) Please add a note about whether the victim died. This is essential to clarify this, even if the article mentions "murder"; specify whether the victim died on the scene or in an ambulance or in a hospital. Please fix this issue and re-submit for review. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:14, 26 December 2025 (UTC) :Please also move the page. The headline should contain a verb. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:16, 26 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[United States, Florida: A man fatally stabs a Barnes & Noble bookstore shopper, claims 'no cause' to police]] (December 26) == hello, this message is sent to all contributors to the article. some of the comments below may or may not be useful to you, please check them carefully for your future edits or for helping to revise after another user. i did this 1) renamed to clearer headline 2) copyedited second paragraph to replace 'She' with 'The victim' i am requesting further edits: 1) specify source for '9:22pm' 2) add a photo of a barnes and noble book store please do these changes now, and i will sight the edits thank you -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:31, 26 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Keyboardist-guitarist of English rock band The Cure dies aged 65]] (January 3) == Event over 7 days old. Passing as exception in context of following factors * nobody was around on holidays anyway (I am being lenient) * the article is well written * it is obituary about a person's whole life so it is still slightly newsy for a while Please do not consider this as precedent for future articles. Thanks -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:42, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Pile up involving dozens of cars on Japan highway kills two]] (January 3) == comment left by reviewer 1) event dec26 not new anymore see [[WN:Freshness]] action requested 1) please report a newer "more current" event not this old one thanks -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:57, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Residents shelter in place for hours after gas leak outside of Los Angeles]] (January 3) == Published. Congratulations, and thank you for starting, or revising, the article. Notes from reviewer: 1) This is on the edge of being old and no longer 'news', but still acceptable. 2) If AI/LLM was used, please leave a note on the article talk page immediately. This is required. Thank you. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:06, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Welcome back == Hi [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] * Follow these instructions [[Wikinews:Easy_Peer_Review_(2025_version)#Getting_Started|get started]] says "''To use it, go to any article that you want to review (make sure it has the {{tl|review}} template). You will find a "Review (EPRv2)" option in your "Actions" menu (in the Vector 2022 skin) or the "More" menu (in the Vector 2010 skin). After clicking this option, a form will appear at the top of the article.''". are you seeing this button? Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:48, 14 January 2026 (UTC) :no, I am not seeing either of these buttons on articles submitted for review. Im only seeing an option to prevreview. I use the 2010 skin. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:03, 14 January 2026 (UTC) :Nevermind, I FINALLY found it. It was under the "More" tab. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:06, 14 January 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father]] (January 19) == {{Notify_review/notready|article=Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father|author=Lofi Gurl|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:53, 19 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father]] (January 20) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father|author=Lofi Gurl|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:09, 20 January 2026 (UTC) :Credit truly goes to [[User:Gryllida]] and [[User:BigKrow]]. All I did was "get" this story. Thanks for running with it! I will attempt to review some articles this week. I will be forced to wing it. Perfectist anxiety is the only thing holding me back at this point. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:59, 20 January 2026 (UTC) == Hello == Hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] you still around? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:01, 16 February 2026 (UTC) :Hi. Good to see ya. My heart is not in current events at the moment. I plan to resume involvement here when I am convinced I can make more meaningful contributions. It doesn't look like there has been much activity here. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:32, 16 February 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] I agree with you that activity has been a bit hit and miss. Could you please let me know what is the criteria for this? What would convince you that the activity level is adequate? Knowing this could help to reach and maintain activity sooner. 😊 Thank you. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:43, 18 February 2026 (UTC) :::I just think at this point many editors are reluctant to write new articles due to lack of active reviewers, many articles went stale while waiting for review this year. I overestimated what I was able to accomplish as a reviewer, I just don't have the time or focus right now and I'd review articles if I wasn't so concerned about publicly making a mistake. But I think Wikinews needs to be publishing at least one article per day to remain a viable destination for readers and to encourage more participation. I would have done way more these past four months if I didn't have so much crap going on in my personal life related to living situations, employment, transportation and mental health. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:20, 19 February 2026 (UTC) ::::got it thanks it sounds reasonable. one article per day is a goal i saw mentioned more than once. 😊 Thank you. Regards [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:03, 20 February 2026 (UTC) == streak proposal == Hi, I am proposing to setup [[:w:streak]] goals over a 12 week period: for example, * "write one story each two weeks, and [[:wikt:babysit|babysit]] it until it is published" This could be either authoring a completely new article or this could be taking over someone else's article and doing focused editing on it with active collaboration with others until it is published. It is like a [[:wikt:day shift|day shift]] as you are expected to remain available '[[:wikt:on call|on call]]' to address concerns from another user or reviewer. The aim of this is to build a habit of participation with [[:wikt:outburst|outburst]]s of eyeballing the page to collaborate with others -- but not every day, to have breaks and reduce [[:wikt:burnout|burnout]]. Could you please check out at '''[[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Streak_themed_competition_proposal|this section]]''' and let me know what you think? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 03:15, 22 February 2026 (UTC) == Here&comma; hold this == <div style="display:flex;align-items:center;justify-content:center;text-align:center;flex-wrap:wrap;margin:2em 0">[[File:Rainbow trout transparent.png|175px|link=wikipediawikipedia:Trout|alt=a rainbow trout fish]]<div style="width:280px"><p style="font-size: 225%; color: Red;">'''''Whack!'''''</p><p style="font-size: 115%;">''You've been [[:wikipediawikipedia:Whacking with a wet trout|whacked with a wet trout]].''</p><small>{{{1|Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.}}}</small><!--Template:Trout--> </div></div> An award for all your edits made while under the in&fllig;uence&period; [[User:Anohthterwikipedian|Anohthterwikipedian]] ([[User talk:Anohthterwikipedian|talk]]) 00:47, 5 March 2026 (UTC) :Thank you very much. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:49, 5 March 2026 (UTC) ::dont feed into them @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 02:09, 5 March 2026 (UTC) == srry == brah i saw your user page srry. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 17:53, 11 March 2026 (UTC) :I went to the BMV in person and they gave me the steps to get it reinstated so it's all good hopefully. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:11, 11 March 2026 (UTC) == queue == Just noting there are around 5 stories in queue which were created or substantially expanded by me and I would appreciate if you could have a look! I have none I can publish thus far as I was involved in editing. Thank you! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:06, 11 March 2026 (UTC) :alright, I'll take a look! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:08, 11 March 2026 (UTC) ::well done! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 01:16, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :::Thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:22, 12 March 2026 (UTC) == Reviewing and publishing == Thank you for stepping into the review queue. Reviewing can be thought of as a two-part process: 1. [[Wikinews:Review checklist|Review]]<br> 2. [[Wikinews:Publish checklist|Publish]] The publishing process involves updating our Main page with the new article. The easiest way to do this is to use [[User:Asked42/LeadManager]], which you'll need to install using the instructions [[User:Asked42/LeadManager#Installation|provided on the tool's page]]. As long as all of the reviewers publish articles immediately after reviewing them, the 5 leads will stay up-to-date. Let me know if you need help with anything, or if any part of the checklists is unclear. Much of the review and publishing process becomes second nature to experienced reviewers, and it is easy to forget how overwhelming it can feel in the beginning.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:15, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :thank you! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:46, 12 March 2026 (UTC) == The sources section can be the third rail for reviewers == Reviewers aren't supposed to add or remove sources as part of the review process. Any source listed is assumed to have been used to directly support statements of fact in the article (because that is what is required of authors). When reviewers come across paywalled sources in the sources list, they need to stop the review process and ask the contributors to remove it and any statements supported solely by it. This delays publishing, but helps to ensure accuracy, which is more important than rapid publishing.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:46, 12 March 2026 (UTC) : And to be clear, this isn't meant to be a criticism, but hopefully helpful 'on-boarding.'[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:53, 12 March 2026 (UTC) ::Heard, thanks a bunch [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:35, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :FWIW, while I agree that what described above is one option (and is better than removing the problematic source and leaving content unchanged), it is my position that, if a reviewer had time to remove ''both'' the problematic source and the information that came from it, while remaining confident that all remaining information is verifiable, then, that reviewer is allowed to complete the review and publish the page. I believe that the process I have described reduces delay waiting for author to revise, and does not compromise quality of the review process. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:25, 13 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Woman charged with attempted homicide after allegedly firing shots at Barbadian pop singer Rihanna's house]] (March 13) == Hi all... I would lile to request a major rewrite: 1) LA Times is paywalled. Please replace, and ensure new content is fully verifiable; then re-submit for review. Please let me know if this is in error, or any questions or request assistance. Thanks! ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:46, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :I dont understand why these sites let me read it and then paywall the article later. Probably so some free news source can't use it as a source for their own article. :P [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:28, 12 March 2026 (UTC) ::Maybe they let you read the first 2-3 pages and then after a few pages, start to demand subscription. :-( [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:15, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :::lets take a deep breath and continue on. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 01:17, 13 March 2026 (UTC) ::::It should be an easy fix. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:50, 13 March 2026 (UTC) == Front page headlines == Hi, do you know why [[Australian Minister for Energy lowers fuel standards for 60 days amid rising oil prices, panic buying]] did not show up as one of the front page lead articles after it was published? This has been a recurring problem as discussed at [[Wikinews:Water cooler/technical#Improper 'circle']] and [[Wikinews:Water cooler/technical#The lead articles need to be changed]]. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:33, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :I have no idea honestly. Sometimes when I publish an article, there's a button asking me I want to post it to the front page, sometimes there isn't. I don't think hitting the button has really done anything though, at least for me. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:37, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :: You can still use Lead Manager independently of EZPR 2025. If, for some reason you aren't prompted to update the leads after a successful review or you leave the page without clicking the button, you can still do so by going to [[User:Asked42/LeadManager]]. It will allow you to update the leads individually, serially, or in a custom fashion. :: By default, LM pulls in the last five articles into the "title" drop-down field. If you just click in the title field, you will be presented with a clickable list of the last five published articles. You can simply select the target article, "fetch automatically" the first two sentences, tweak the imported text and image if you'd like, then "Start update" will make the changes. :: To get used to the tools and processes, you can likely skip the 'additional options' area and just publish a single article after a successful review.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:28, 13 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], Let me know if you want me to install the LeadManager script for you, so that you can just start using it. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 16:38, 13 March 2026 (UTC) : I have updated the leads to include the article.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:48, 13 March 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground]] (March 22) == <div style="border:2px solid #57DB1E;background:linear-gradient(135deg,#E6FFE6 0%,#F0FFF0 100%);padding:1em 1.5em;color:#1a1a1a;margin:1.5em;border-radius:4px;box-shadow:0 2px 8px rgba(87,219,30,0.15);"> [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|50px|left|link=]] <div style="margin-left:64px;"> <span style="font-size:1.1em;font-weight:bold;color:#2d5016;"> Hi Lofi Gurl! Thank you for your submission! </span><br/> Your article '''[[South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground]]''' has been reviewed by '''{{User|Gryllida}}''', and it has been accepted and published. '''Congratulations! 🎉''' <div style="margin-top:0.5em;"> The reviewer's comments and decision are available on the [[Talk:South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground|article's talk page]]. </div> <div style="margin-top:0.5em;"> Excellent work, please keep it up! We hope you will continue contributing to Wikinews. If you have some time, consider taking a look at other articles currently [[:Category:Developing|under development]] or [[:Category:Review|awaiting review]]. Your help in improving or reviewing them would be greatly appreciated. </div> <div style="font-size:0.9em;color:#555;"> ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. </div></div></div> -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:34, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :That was a weird bug: I specified an empty custom comment, as my clipboard was borked. :Here is a copy... :A few remarks: :1. Having checked sources, I needed to make some changes, such as "near the neck" and not "in the neck", and the bombing incident was last year (not two years ago). Please check the edit history carefully and let me know if any of my changes were incorrect. :2. I am trying to push towards more exclusive content or more closer follow ups here. Could you please either think of the questions to ask the South Korean Army, or, write a follow up report when the investigations completed and drills resumed? :3. Barely newsworthy as this is nearly 5 days old but I think this is fine to publish. :4. For npov balance, recommend including responses from other sources, i.e., from someone who is not a part of the South Korean Army. This may be done up to 24 hours after the story is published. :Overall, this looks great, I appreciate the report!!! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:37, 22 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[7-ton meteor traverses sky over Ohio and several other US states]] (March 27) == Sorry, this report went stale. ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:38, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[AC/DC guitarist Stevie Young admitted to hospital in Buenos Aires, spokesperson says]] (March 27) == Sorry, this report went stale. Did he survive? ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:41, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Might write some today possibly later == thanks @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:07, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :I'll try to do a few reviews before I go out tonight. I'm going to focus on reviews since it's a fair assumption now that nobody will even look at the articles I submit. It's the only way I can try to fix this project's problems at this point. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:13, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Regarding your move of my article == Hello, Lofi Gurl! I think my article is best located at [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts Christians of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians in landmark ruling]] rather than [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts politicians of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians in landmark ruling]], because, of the four defendants convicted in the case, only one is a politician. The other individual is a bishop. The other two defendants are institutions. The only thing that the four defendants, consisting of two individuals and two institutions, have in common is that they are all Christian. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 19:09, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :okay, sorry for the overreaction. I despise religious fundamentalism and bigotry but I just wanted to make sure the title wasn't going after Christians as some sort of ethnic group or something. But then, Christianity is a {{w|universal religion}}, so I'm not sure the same principles apply anyway. No idea why I'm saying this. I have {{w|religious trauma}} from my Protestant upbringing and I listen to Satanic {{w|death metal}} every day of my life, and idk I guess I just didn't want thst influence creeping into my writing and creating a potential conflict of interest. Thanks for the message. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:40, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thank you for letting me know. I actually went to great lengths to balance the article, get perspectives from all sides, sources from all sides, strongly ground the article in the sources, provide perspectives from all sides, and stay neutral and stick to the facts. This is my very first ever Wikinews article. Since you seem to care about both factuality and neutrality, would you mind reviewing the article? I think it is ready for publication. What do you think? --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:27, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :::Yes absolutely. I should have some time to review stuff while dogsitting tonight. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:24, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Thank you for your review. I appreciate most of your edits, but in [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Supreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_Christians_of_crimes_against_the_humanity_of_gays_and_lesbians_in_landmark_ruling&diff=5002549&oldid=5002548 this edit] you removed the global scientific consensus regarding homosexuality saying that it is "emotional language", but it is scientific language that all scientific, medical, psychological, psychiatric, and pediatric associations, institutions, and organisations use to describe homosexuality, especially against false claims such those made in the pamphlet. I used the World Medical Association as a source, but there are thousands of more sources that use that language. The World Medical Association itself is an international federation of over a hundred national medical associations. Attributing that scientific language to the World Medical Association alone would give readers the incorrect impression that only the World Medical Association holds that position, when in fact it is the common position of all scientific, medical, psychological, psychiatric, and pediatric associations, institutions, and organisations in the whole world. Obviously, it would be impractical to cite every single one of thousands of scientific, medical, psychological, psychiatric, and pediatric associations, institutions, and organisations in the world, which is I cited the World Medical Association, which itself is an international federation of over a hundred national medical associations. Is your review complete? Is the article ready for publication? This is my very first ever Wikinews article, so I'm not entirely familiar with process here. Thank you for your help. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 17:49, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :::::We can just say "according to scientific consensus" then. I mostly just thought the passage was really wordy with way too many adjectives. It's close to being ready for publication. I cleaned it up the best I could without making major revisions and all I need to do now is verify all the claims and check for copyright violations. I'll likely do it later tonight. I was severely hungover yesterday and had to go to sleep early, but I'm good now. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:31, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::I'll leave it in your capable hands then! I'm looking forward to the publication of my very first Wikinews article! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 23:11, 29 March 2026 (UTC) Hi, Lofi Gurl! I appreciate your edits and your review, but I think that changing the title made it too vague, and the previous title was more specific. You said that [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Supreme_Court_of_Finland_makes_crimes_against_humanity_convictions_in_landmark_ruling&diff=5002876&oldid=5002875 "Don wanted this title changed I think"], but I actually couldn't find a comment from Don saying that he wanted the title changed. Are you done reviewing the article? Can we publish the article now? --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:28, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I'm concerned I may have made too substantial of changes to the article to remain an uninvolved reviewer. They just announced today Wikinews is closing and I am gutted. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:04, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Your edits seem to be only related to getting the article ready for publicaiton, so that should not be a problem, right? Also, oh no! That's awful! Why are they closing Wikinews? I really put in a lot of work into that article, so is it possible to get it published before? [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 21:10, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::The project is being closed due to low user engagement. The "current events" module on the front page of Wikipedia does a better job at reporting current events than Wikinews. It is much more timely on Wikipedia, and edits can be published faster because i'm pretty sure that project is not subject to the same libel regulations as this project, as wikipedia is not a news publication. By contrast, Wikinews has a rigorous review process to ensure quality, which sounds good on paper, but ultimately fails when the existing reviewers are either unable or unwilling to perform a review in time to get it published. Most articles that did manage to get published on this site were usually posted 4-5 days after the fact, when the news cycle has effectively moved on. Ive had an extremely difficult time getting anyone to even look at anything I've written these last six months here on the project. This is an experience shared by [[User:Tduk]]. There were a few successful publications during that time. But lets be real. Wikinews is a failed experiment. The Wikimedia Foundation doesn't want to pay for the server costs to host this project. They want to focus on Wikipedia. I thought I could help get things moving in the right direction and help save the project from closure, but the truth is I simply overestimated this project abd overestimated what I was able to realistically do. Adderall is one hell of a drug. Anyway, for what its worth, I did deeply care about this project, I thought the concept was so cool, I guess some things just dont work in practice. That pretty much sums it up, let me know if you have any further questions. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:47, 4 April 2026 (UTC) == Just a check-in == ....the India article? Still reviewing that one? Didn't want to mess with it if you are.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:58, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == Please don't bite my head off == Just a heads up Im starting a Miraheze here about English Wikinews, thanks. https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/78142 Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:54, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I'm not going to bite your head off haha. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:09, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::thnx Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:12, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::I guess pinging is getting me in trouble with some people so I'll make it quick, https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::Someone will need to discuss and decide on new name. I asked whether trademarked word 'Wikinews' can be used, and have not got an answer to that, yet. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:32, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == Negativity == You've been a pretty solid contributor and I hope that you don't let the negativity and hypocrisy surrounding this site get to you too much. At least, I've noted how you've been trying to move things more than many others here. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 02:14, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :It's fine. Don't worry. I kind of knew this project was a dead end job and wasn't really worth the effort I was putting in trying to save it. I just kept getting sucked back in every time I tried to quit, so in a way I'm kind of glad the project is closing. It was probably going to devolve to a thing where I assumed most of the workload while the more experienced editors scaled back their involvement with the project, per tradition. Oh well. When one door closes, another one opens. I try to remember [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Lofi_Gurl#En.wn this conversation] when I feel shitty regarding my contributions to this project. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:20, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::I've still got one fresh and one fresh-ish (thanks to you know who) article pending review if you get inspired to try to do something. The most recent one has some pretty unique original reporting in my opinion. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:20, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have nothing left to give this project, unfortunately. Those messages that admin left us, then bailing on the project completely... Lets just say that if I had a single shit left to give, it is definitely gone now. I might still take a look at the article but I cant promise anything. I'm completely demoralized. Do you contribute at English Wikipedia and/or Wikiquote? Thats where you will usually find me moving forward. Let me know if I can be of any assistance on those projects. :::RIP Wikinews, let the record show I believed in you up until the end. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:35, 4 April 2026 (UTC) ::::Yes, I'm a long time contributor to other wiki projects, in fact I'm seen you editing some metal pages that are on my watchlist! I was asked to come on here last year to see if I could do anything to make it start to function, but you saw how that went. Anyway it's up to you if you want to review those articles, I'm not expecting anything. I think there are other things going on here. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 00:17, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :::::Hell yeah! I have made substantial contributions to various extreme metal-related topics on enwp that I am immensely proud of. If you ever need help in regards to improving those articles, you can always drop a message on my talk page over there. I have also been creating articles for niche subgenres of jazz over there. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:11, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::::::You might get a kick out of reading [[Experimental vocalists perform at Downtown Music Gallery]] before it gets deleted... [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:32, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Interested? == I created a news wiki on Fandom, i have one contributor so far. Please let me know it could use your help! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:15, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:16, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :Sure, why not. I created an account and tried to create a discussion post, but it says I have to have an account for four days before I can contribute. Here's the story I was trying to share: [https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/atlanta-gucci-mane-kidnapped-robbed-dallas-pooh-shiesty-big30/] [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:24, 4 April 2026 (UTC) ::OK cool, could you please create a userpage like on Wikinews? Also, I don't know what that glitch could be on the article creation? For now, I will start the article if you're ok with that? Thanks a million! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:39, 4 April 2026 (UTC) ::On my end it says you have not registered (joined). Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:42, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :::Unlike Wikinews Fandom needs you to have a email address. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:05, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/Gucci_Mane_kidnapped,_robbed_at_gunpoint_in_Dallas ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:20, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :::I confirmed my email address so I don't know why it won't let me. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:34, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::::https://www.fandom.com/ try again @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:39, 5 April 2026 (UTC) cspmb60lhaxukqyp73uy8wqc7vi4al2 5005244 5005216 2026-04-06T01:33:21Z Gryllida 160590 Notifying about the review of [[Supreme_Court_of_Finland_makes_crimes_against_humanity_convictions_in_landmark_ruling]] 5005244 wikitext text/x-wiki {{retired}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 00:40, 6 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Court ruling upholds TikTok ban unless ByteDance sells stake]] == Hi, @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] published the story. Congratulations. Please review the article history and talk page for feedback from the reviewer. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Suspect in shooting death of UnitedHealthcare CEO fled New York City by bus, police say]] == Hi, I published the story. Congratulations. 🎉 Please review the article history and talk page for feedback. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:33, 7 December 2024 (UTC) :thanks!! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:35, 7 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Manslaughter charges against Daniel Perry dismissed following jury deadlock]] == Published. :-) Please read notes on the talk page. Have a great day. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:51, 7 December 2024 (UTC) == Re: cathedral re-opening == Hello, Published. :-) Please check notes on the article talk page. A copy is included below for your reference: ---- There are important, but not critically essential details missing, for example: * time of day in local time and UTC * that they planned to do speech outdoors but did it indoors because of a storm * (is it needed to write '2024' in first paragraph as we already have publish date further up the page) I could not verify one part: * Sunday 'morning' mass (source 1 says Sunday, source 2 does not say, or something) -- replaced 'Sunday morning' with 'Sunday' The above items can be addressed within 24 hours after publication. The image credit was missing and I added it as a minor edit as a part of the review process. It is required due to the licence requirements. I recommend the author to also become involved in editing others' submissions -- those of them that are newsworthy, at least -- in the [[Newsroom]], if desired. This may help improve their quality and their chances of publication, and provide experience with proofreading and fact checking in addition to writing and authoring efforts. Thank you and keep up the great work. ---- Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:59, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == Pace == Hi Lofi Gurl, there are not many reviewers available, and I think the current queue may take a couple days to be processed. (I am mostly outdoors and away on weekend.) My apologies, and thank you for reading and writing entertaining and specific stories. :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:06, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :No problem, take your time and enjoy your weekend! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:08, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == Revisit articles in review queue == While waiting for articles I've authored to be reviewed, I often revisit them as long as they aren't under review and 'tighten' them up by making sure they conform to the style guide, that facts are correct, I've chosen good images with useful descriptions (and attributed every image), etc. I see that there are style issues in some of your articles currently awaiting review. Please see what you can do to help make the review of these articles easier/quicker. Consider using {{tl|verify}} to point to exactly what source is used for all information so reviewers who verify information can find it easier. This helps tremendously. Thanks. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 15:53, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :Are you able to specify the style issues present in the article as a reviewer, or is it my job to figure that out as the reporter? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:59, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :I haven't checked the article talk pages yet so sorry if this ends up being a pointless question [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:00, 8 December 2024 (UTC) ::It is the author's responsibility to know our policies and guidelilnes, to include the [[WN:Style|style guide]]. Reviewers can and often do correct style issues before publishing but they are not required to. It takes more of a reviewers time to correct for style along with everything else they must check before publishing. See [[Wikinews:Reviewing articles]] to understand all the work that goes into reviewing an article. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 14:24, 9 December 2024 (UTC) == Great job == You are doing a great job here thank you. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:25, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :Thank you, friend! :[[File:Red Wine Toast GIF Animation.gif]] [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == I have a question! == {{tl|helpme}} Say an articles goes stale, or fails review for whatever reason. Am I allowed to splice old material and sources from "rejected" articles and use them in future articles, so long as the subject of the article stays fresh, and new developments keep coming in? Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:36, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :Yes, that's fine. They are released under the creative commons licence indicated in the footer, and you can reuse them at any news articles here or any other place where the licence of content is compatible. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:54, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Impeachment of South Korean president Yoon Suk Yeol fails]] == Hi Lofi Gurl :-) Could you please [[WN:Attribution|attribute]] the "''Political unrest and nationwide protests were expected in response to the axing of the impeachment.''" sentence? Who said this? This would help the sentence to not read as a speculation made on behalf of ''Wikinews''. Let me know if you have any questions, I am happy to help. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:53, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :From the Associated Press article: :{{quote|The vote’s defeat is likely to fuel nationwide protests and escalate political turmoil, and opposition parties could introduce a new impeachment motion when parliament reconvenes next Wednesday.}} [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:56, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :This is amazing: :* [[South Korean Constitutional Court upholds impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol]] :Thank you so much for writing about this topic. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:15, 10 April 2025 (UTC) ::Pretty cool we have four articles of coverage spanning the scandal from start to finish! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:02, 11 April 2025 (UTC) == Wizard of oz slippers story == Hi Lofi Gurl * Missing currency, both in first paragraph and in headline? * Missing specified location where the auction took place. Hope you can assist. Let me know if any questions. Thank you. :-) Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:09, 9 December 2024 (UTC) :I've found the location and left a note about it at the article talk page. I cannot add it and remain available to review. Could you please check and make the edit? Thank you!!! Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:13, 9 December 2024 (UTC) ::I went to sleep before seeing all these. I'm so sorry! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:20, 9 December 2024 (UTC) :::Hi [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] :-) :::What is your time zone? :::Do you receive notifications in right top corner of the page while you are logged in? :::Please note on talk page of the slippers story there is a new message "''@Michael.C.Wright - You can add it and I can review? Please confirm within the next hour, or @Lofi Gurl please add it within next hour. Failing that, I'll add it myself and will require another reviewer to publish. Thanks.''" :::Have a great day. :::Thanks, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:25, 9 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Yeah, and I need to get better at clearing my inbox, apparently. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:44, 9 December 2024 (UTC) :::::I'm eastern standard time I think. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:38, 10 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Left you a '''[[Talk:Slippers_worn_by_American_actress_Judy_Garland_in_1939_film_The_Wizard_of_Oz_break_sales_record,_sold_for_US$28_million_at_auction#Why_the_slippers_were_so_expensive|new message]]''' Hope it helps :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:25, 10 December 2024 (UTC) :::::[[Slippers worn by American actress Judy Garland in 1939 film The Wizard of Oz break sales record, sold for US$28 million at auction]] now published, congratulations. :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:14, 10 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::thank you :) [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:21, 10 December 2024 (UTC) == Coffee::Who == Hi Lofi Gurl, I've left you a new message '''[[Talk:Coffee_prices_surge_to_record_highs_due_to_droughts_in_Brazil,_Vietnam#Who|here]]'''. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:31, 11 December 2024 (UTC) :added a new message now again [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:10, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == Chess article == Please see the talk page at that article.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:44, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == damascus story == i made a few edits. in one sentence needs clarification, i marked it in bold. please check? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:03, 13 December 2024 (UTC) :Hi!! To answer the quesion/comment/footnote you left in the article -- I found a mention of "Saydnaya prison complex" in the BBC source but they don't specify if that was the prison Timmerman escaped from. It was just mentioned that {{w|the White Helmets}} were storming looking for survivors. Hope this helps! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:43, 13 December 2024 (UTC) :Also, I think he left prison the same day the city fell on Monday, which was mentioned in the second paragraph. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:49, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == minor edit & thanks == hi, i have rejected [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Indian_chess_grandmaster_Gukesh_Dommaraju,_18,_becomes_youngest_world_chess_champion_of_all_time&diff=4809824&oldid=prev&unhide=1 this edit] as this wikilink was already included in a previous paragraph. please let me know if i am incorrect! thanks for the other edits to the story. they have made it so much nicer and are timely. i appreciate it and approved the other edits. have a great day, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:45, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :oops didn't see the other link, thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 08:47, 14 December 2024 (UTC) == Edits after publication == Please note that our [[WN:Archive]] conventions generally prevent edits to articles 24 hours after publication. Articles are meant to be a snapshot in time. Edits within the 24 hours after publication should be limited to only correcting any errors not caught in the review process. It is better to have an article fully button-down and ready for publication before requesting review. You are more than welcome, even encouraged to help improve other articles. But please focus that energy on articles in the developing queue and review queue unless the article is actively ''under'' review. That way we catch more errors before review and definitely before publication. Thanks again for joining and contributing! I can't remember the last time I saw ten articles in the review queue. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 16:46, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :[[image:Symbol thumbs up green.png]] [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC) == Requested article == hey, {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} https://abc3340.com/news/local/alabama-talladega-county-sheriffs-office I added this story to requested articles but im not up to starting the article myself... If you can do anything for this would be helpful? Thanks! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :Hi, I'm happy to start articles you bring to me, I'm just not sure this story meets the site's notability guidelines.. I'd have to double check though. Thank you though [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:02, 14 December 2024 (UTC) ::It does and is '''developing''', not much data so far I suppose.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC) ::We also need a second source. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC) :::we'll play it by ear. This South Korea story is taking way longer than I thought [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:20, 14 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Let's please focus on it being published! My request can always wait, thanks. {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:22, 14 December 2024 (UTC) == please vote == Hi Lofi Gurl :-) '''[[Wikinews:Requests_for_permissions|This page]]''' has a handful of requests open. Could you please cast a vote and/or add a comment, ideally for each of them, at your earliest convenience? Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:19, 15 December 2024 (UTC) == hi here is a news tip about malware == https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ultralytics-ai-model-hijacked-to-infect-thousands-with-cryptominer/ -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:04, 16 December 2024 (UTC) == [[Hundreds of North Korean troops killed fighting Ukrainian forces in Russia]] == Hi. Please see my not-ready review comments on the talk page. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 22:19, 19 December 2024 (UTC) == Why? == Are you making more work for editors? Im not angry just confused.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:50, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :I don't know what you're talking about? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:58, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::You keep abandoning articles mostly you created, why? {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:00, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :What specifically do you mean "making more work for editors"? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:59, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::more work to clean up after you... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:01, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::I'd just delete them if I was able to. Why are you mad? I'm abandoning the articles. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:02, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::not mad, just confused.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::You were acting fine before, what happened? {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::Stop "RIPing" because it's seen as disruptive behavior, sorry but it seems like it. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::That's fine I'm done writing here anyway. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::::Suit yourself..... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::::Then what was your point? Wasting peoples' time? Sad sorry. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC) ::::::I'm genuinely confused now. What do you mean "wasting peoples time"? What are you talking about? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:08, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::::::The project is to work together with one another not to abandon because theres not much activity right now. I won't argue with you anymore.. Sorry... {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:14, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :::::::: '''I didn't do anything wrong.''' [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:16, 20 December 2024 (UTC) == En.wn == Hi. Thanks for, well, contributing here, I guess. So really, if you want to write fast and write prolifically, maybe Wikipedia is a better fit for you than en.wn in its present state. The project couldn't handle a mass influx of even people highly skilled at writing for it (overwhelms the review process, reporters get demoralized). I'm tempted to say that you overestimated the project and what you could do, but that sounds wrong. I don't know why I'm saying all this. You probably already know it. Of what's left, we are overwhelmingly nice people, for what it's worth, and care deeply about en.wn. Just don't, I guess, overinvest yourself in it. One of our colleagues here likes to say "don't get married to your article", so perhaps likewise with the concept and future of the project. Then again, a late editor literally saw himself as embarking on a mission to save human civilization from intellectual ruin and mundanity by making something great out of this project. But he was executing a long term plan, that did transform the project. I don't know what this sounds like. I hope it doesn't sound condescending. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 06:27, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :Just to let both of you know I wasn't trying to attack {{ping|Lofi Gurl}}. {{Ping|Heavy Water}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 13:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :Thanks for taking the time to write this (it didn't come off as condescending). I'll keep it in mind while contributing to the project in the future. Sorry for taking a few days to reply. Been trying to limit internet time. Have a good rest of your weekend! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 05:31, 22 December 2024 (UTC) == Lofi Gurl == I was really being a dink to you, apologies. Feel free to continue to write articles here! {{Ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC) :Consider it forgiven. It happens. Onward! [[file:FPClogogif.gif]] [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC) ::Thank you for creating new news articles you go as fast as you please {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:01, 22 December 2024 (UTC) :::I'm trying to slow down and try to average maybe three per week. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC) ::::Please write as much as you like and thanks {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:05, 22 December 2024 (UTC) == Welcome back == [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:45, 30 January 2025 (UTC) :Good to be back. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:47, 30 January 2025 (UTC) ::😊 [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:47, 30 January 2025 (UTC) ::Welcome back Lofi Gurl [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:58, 12 February 2025 (UTC) :::thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 08:16, 12 February 2025 (UTC) == Crash Philadelphia story == Hi I copyedited some misspelled words for the article. Hope your well, thanks. {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:51, 2 February 2025 (UTC) :thanks. I'm on my mom's laptop at the moment and she has her shit set up weird, and I can't spellcheck very easily at all right now. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:57, 2 February 2025 (UTC) ::It's ok, do your best. {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:14, 2 February 2025 (UTC) == Paywalled == Can't you work around it? {{Ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:10, 12 March 2025 (UTC) :It's gonna be easier to rewrite the entire article at this point, with like 2-3 sources. The project just kept getting bigger and bigger and I shot myself in the foot (or gave my foot the firing squad, if you will). Using this article's content for Wikipedia. Going to focus on my WashingtonDC/suicide/cop article I have started here. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:19, 12 March 2025 (UTC) == Re: revitalising Wikinews == Hi, I'm reaching out to you as you indicated support for revitalising Wikinews. Here are a few ways to help out, in no particular order: # write new articles by [[WN:SG|style guide]] and [[WN:CG|content guide]] # find news which happened today and share it on [[WN:IRC|live chat]] or [[WN:REQ|a news tip page]] # read drafts in [[Newsroom]], especially those submitted for review, and edit them to make them more comprehensive or more current # read drafts in [[Newsroom]], especially those that failed review recently, and address reviewer's comments quickly and re-submit for review # chat with new authors (of articles in Newsroom) and help them understand the key concepts # subscribe at [[Wikinews:Water cooler]] (there are 5 subforums, open each and click 'Subscribe' link at top - then keep a close eye on your Echo notifications) to help newcomers and help with editing articles when someone requests assistance # chat on [[WN:IRC|live chat]] and help newcomers and reviewers with their review process # help with software development for authoring or reviewing articles, perhaps for the mobile platforms # chat with other contributors on audio or video chat # present notes about how Wikinews works at various conferences via audio and video communucations [as we don't have funds for travel at present] this can be linux, programming, journalistical, or wikimedia themed conferences # figure out how to get someone to do any of the above through a grant, sometimes google summer of code # find high school and university educators who would like to teach their class journalism by asking them to write articles for Wikinews (was done with [[Category:UoW|University of Wollongong]] in the past, and we have extension installed for marking students) # collaborate with [[User:Pharos|Pharos]] on getting more news coverage of the New York City and adjacent areas # proofread, or read, Wikinews articles out loud for Audio Wikinews # make English Wikinews accounts on various social media like twitter, facebook, blue sky app (sp?), others [in consultation with someone on-wiki first] ensuring you're posting new news articles there with appropriate tags, moderate comments, and setup multiple moderators if possible and document which contributor is in charge of which social network account for Wikinews and how articles are being posted there Please let me know which of these points you're most comfortable with, and/or would like to learn. '''''Which points would you like to contribute?''''' Please name up to 3-5 points, if you like. Or suggest your own. :-) I'm happy to connect with you and guide you in any of the above areas. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:54, 16 March 2025 (UTC) :I like alot of these! :#7. I've been meaning to start using IRC for a while. Maybe today's the day. :#8. Not sure what I can do to help with software development but I have a bunch of friends who know code. :#12. I know a few university professors in the history field. :#14. I've never heard of Audio Wikinews. Sounds self-explanatory. How many articles have audio with them? :Thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:02, 17 March 2025 (UTC) == This is terribly overdue! == {|style="border: 8px solid gray; background-color: #fdff7;" |rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[Image:Pencil tip closeup 2.JPG|160px]] |rowspan="2" | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 2; vertical-align: middle; height: .4em;" | '''The Order of the Humble Pencil''' <br> For completing ''5 edits''. |- |style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Great work! Keep it up! --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:12, 17 March 2025 (UTC) |} == Stuff == Some of your (recent) contributions have gone stale. Sorry -- keep at it!!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:27, 18 March 2025 (UTC) == Darn it! == That execution article ROCKED! Is there a snowball's change you could gatwick it? I'll help -- for realz!!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:39, 18 March 2025 (UTC) :Thanks for the kind words! I don't think I can gatwick it -- it went stale on Friday, and there have not been any new developments that I'm aware of. I shot myself in the foot by relying too heavily on a source that I later discovered had an apparent paywall (only the first two days were free I guess). On the bright side, I was able to use alot of it for the Wikipedia article, but I wish I could have gotten it published here! It would have been a good one. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:49, 19 March 2025 (UTC) == You ok??? == Hope your good???? {{ping|Lofi Gurl}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:01, 25 March 2025 (UTC) :I've been borderline kind of freaking out lately. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:38, 25 March 2025 (UTC) ::Well, take a few breaths -- back up -- '''re-calibrate the mechanism''' -- and come back soon!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 12:31, 1 April 2025 (UTC) == You've AT LEAST earned this!! == [[File:Wikinews WikiNoob.png|210px|left|This [[Wikinews:Contributing Reporter Awards|award]] is presented to new reporters who have started 10 or fewer news articles.]] Keep at it!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 12:33, 1 April 2025 (UTC) :Ahh thank you!! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:08, 1 April 2025 (UTC) :congrats [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:57, 6 April 2025 (UTC) ::thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 12:58, 6 April 2025 (UTC) == Articles == Your clogging up the queue, please resort to 1 possibly 2 articles at a time. I don't want to see you blocked..... Many of your articles will most likely go stale, or you will abandon them. Sorry for so harsh but its facts... @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:19, 14 April 2025 (UTC) :I've also put a good amount of effort into helping your articles.... Your stressing me out badly.... @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:21, 14 April 2025 (UTC) ::Will you please stop needlessly punctuating ''every sentence'' with "..........."? Because it comes off as needlessly shitty to everyone you talk to and that really isn't something I need to be dealing with. No matter the topic it just sets a negative tone right off the bat. Sorry, "but it's facts." [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:28, 14 April 2025 (UTC) :Coming from a user who constantly abandons articles lol [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:22, 14 April 2025 (UTC) ::It's not funny brah, i should report you! But i wont, your harassing me and wikinews!!! °½<½½½<<½½½;½½ @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:32, 14 April 2025 (UTC) ::your a sock or troll.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:33, 14 April 2025 (UTC) :I found these stubs useful and was pleased. Expanded one yesterday. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:17, 14 April 2025 (UTC) == Interest in notifications for new drafts == Hi Lofi Gurl I'd like to invite you to edit drafts created by other contributors to improve their quality and reduce reviewer load on them, so that more reviewers can review articles written by you. Would you be interested in notifications of the current drafts in the Newsroom, compiled with a note of what the event date and link to article? I can make something like [[User:Gryllida/Newsroom]]. If you're interested, would you like to get notified when article '''is created as a new draft''' ([[:Category:Developing]]) or when it is '''submitted for review''' ([[:Category:Review]])? Many thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:12, 15 April 2025 (UTC) :Yes, I would love that. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:16, 15 April 2025 (UTC) ::Awesome thanks. Which option would you prefer, articles created in Developing or in Review category? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:28, 15 April 2025 (UTC) :::Definitely developing. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:29, 15 April 2025 (UTC) ::::Would you like to get notifications 'instantly' for each new draft, or weekly? ::::Would you be OK if these notifications were delivered to your personal talk page? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:35, 15 April 2025 (UTC) :::::Instantly would be great. Yeah, my talk page would be fine starting out, but if we could find a way for them to only show up in my notifications inbox, that would be good too. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:50, 15 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::great thanks i will try to figure out how to make this work [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:55, 16 April 2025 (UTC) ::May I ask about your devices: how many, what OS, have you used an RSS feed reader before? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:08, 16 April 2025 (UTC) :::I mainly edit on my laptop using Windows 10. No I've never used an RSS feed reader before. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:20, 16 April 2025 (UTC) == idaho police story == published after an edit to write in active voice, great writeup thanks heaps [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:54, 16 April 2025 (UTC) == Don't edit my articles == Thanks [[Special:Contributions/64.39.81.71|64.39.81.71]] ([[User talk:64.39.81.71|talk]]) 17:11, 17 April 2025 (UTC) @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] :Why not? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:34, 17 April 2025 (UTC) ::Sorry got ahead of myself [[Special:Contributions/64.39.81.71|64.39.81.71]] ([[User talk:64.39.81.71|talk]]) 18:32, 17 April 2025 (UTC) :Anyone can edit anyone's article. This is not bbc nor a blog. Articles belong to Wikinews, not to individual authors. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:51, 17 April 2025 (UTC) == [[Suspect taken into custody and charged after Pennsylvania governor Josh Shapiro is forced to evacuate gubernatorial mansion with family following suspected arson attack]][ == is there a court date scheduled for this? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:37, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :Ill look into it when i ge5 home [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:54, 20 April 2025 (UTC) == Hello == I just wanted to say hi. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:57, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :Hey BigKrow! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:47, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::I seem to have an imposter, a pain in my side, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], @[[User:BigKrow2|BigKrow2]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:49, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::Also @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], @[[User:Gryllida2|Gryllida2]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:50, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], notified. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:50, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::I really hope this is just some random child that doesn't know the actual severity of what they're doing here. But that is clearly someone who has been kicked from the project multiple times. Just ignore the humanoid. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:58, 20 April 2025 (UTC) == BigKrow2 == Please tell me your really not me @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], I wouldn't be superised. Also @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] and @[[User:Gryllida2|Gryllida2]] @[[User:MeDaWikipedian|MeDaWikipedian]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:03, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :You're accusing me of being that guy who impersonated Bddpaux last year? Is that what you're saying? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:06, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::Honestly I think you are. Trying to sneak back in .... @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:08, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::Why? What basis do you have for that? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:09, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :That shit happened before I created my account, but I saw it happen. Is every new user here going to be accused of being that person then? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:08, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::Prove your innocence then, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:10, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::How? You have to open a sockpuppet investigation into me I guess. Why are you making baseless accusations? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:12, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::I'm just checking but you might be a sock puppet account you changed the article fucks to some other story suspicious. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:13, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::Why is that suspicious? I turned a vandalism article into a stub. You're being silly. Your baseless accusations are disruptive. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:20, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::Prove your innocence, @[[User:MeDaWikipedian|MeDaWikipedian]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:21, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:22, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::Once again -- ''how?'' [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:22, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::I can't check user you right now but, I'm always watching you.... @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:24, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::::Why? Why do you think I am this user? Why do you want to checkuser me? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:30, 20 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::::I have my suspicions. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:33, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :::::::::So it's just conjecture? I'm not Me Da Wikipedian. Why are you suspecting me of sockpuppetry? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:40, 20 April 2025 (UTC) == I suffer from bad mental health issues == I know my behavior has been negative to you, so by taking responsibility for my words towards you, I just don't want to be blocked from editing Wiki news. And thinking you are a sock is wrong of me. Lofi Gurl you don't have to accept my apology but I do hope you understand where I'm coming from about my mental health. Thank you for listening. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:14, 21 April 2025 (UTC) :Okay? I am never afforded understanding or forgiveness when my mental health issues cause problems in relationships. I'm just frankly tired of this crap. Youve been making me not want to log in [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:18, 21 April 2025 (UTC) ::You can only make your own decisions, I say you keep working get past this and move forward @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:29, 21 April 2025 (UTC) :::Agreed. This was a waste of time. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:17, 21 April 2025 (UTC) == Thank you for not retiring == Thank you for sticking around! Your well needed here. Thanks. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:24, 22 April 2025 (UTC) :🙂🥳👍⚡️ [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 17:22, 22 April 2025 (UTC) == Sources fill ✍️ == Hi, at my personal talk page at Wikipedia there is a user script, which may be copy pasted to [[Special:MyPage/common.js]], that adds a new button in the editor: it prompts for an URL, generates a filled source template for it, and copies it to clipboard. It reliably inserts the source title at least 🤣 In many, but not all, cases it also gets the publisher and date -- though not always in the right "April 22, 2025" format -- properly, too. Then, if in the visual editing mode, I double click the pasted source to fix if needed. Perhaps this could help you save time. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 17:45, 22 April 2025 (UTC) :Yes I was actually going to ask if we could program something like that, because en.wp has it. Thank you! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:59, 22 April 2025 (UTC) ::Is it working for you? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:31, 4 May 2025 (UTC) :::Do you have a link to the script? I tried to access the script from your Wikipedia talk page from the section titled "Script" but it just lead me to a deleted page. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:36, 4 May 2025 (UTC) ::::[[User:Gryllida/common.js]] -> ::::<pre>importScript('User:Gryllida/js/add-source-in-visual-editor.js');</pre> ::::[[User:Gryllida/js/add-source-in-visual-editor.js]] ::::Works in 'Source editing' mode if it is the same toolbar as Visual Editor. ::::It adds a star icon. Clicking it prompts for the news URL, and then a few seconds alter it adds the filled source template at cursor position. ::::Note that date may be missing. Authors usually are missing. Publisher name isn't always correct (needs to be such that you can wikilink to wikipedia). So you need to check what it generated. But at least it gets title and date right 90% of the time for me and it makes writing easier. ::::Hope it helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 06:11, 4 May 2025 (UTC) == Minor edit urgent please? == Hi Lofi Gurl I think it is best of someone adds a source and attribution about the '51' number of injuries. The article was already published, so this needs to be done immediately, so that the approval of the edit can be done within less than 24 hours. Please see [[Talk:Kamikaze_drone_attacks_bus_near_Dnipropetrovsk,_Ukraine,_allegedly_war_crime|this page]] for more details. BigKrow refused to do it, now I have the request for your help as my last hope. Looks like nobody else currently active at the wiki this weekend. Thanks heaps, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:54, 25 April 2025 (UTC) :Hey! Let me know what you think of my revision. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:56, 25 April 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you for the edit. ::If you click the image of the bus, in description, it links to a few sources. One of them is a telegram post by someone, possibly military official from Ukraine. I think it could be added as source and in article text the '51' figure could be attributed to that source specifying their name and whatever role is associated with their nick in telegram. If you can do this soon, I can approve it. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:31, 26 April 2025 (UTC) == Saying hi == @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], how are you? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:05, 2 May 2025 (UTC) :Taking it one day at a time. Thanks for asking. How are you doing friend? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:15, 2 May 2025 (UTC) ::I'm living heh, glad to hear your doing okay. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:17, 2 May 2025 (UTC) == Yo BigKrow == @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] Can I ask a favor? Can you go on the Lady Gaga article and fill out the sources, and then submit for a review? I'm heading into the city to attend a concert at the moment. Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:49, 10 May 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], I got you! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:16, 11 May 2025 (UTC) == How are you? == @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:47, 11 May 2025 (UTC) :Kinda hungover. Didnt get great sleep last night. Slept in my car because I didnt want to risk a DUI after the concert. Im excited to hopefully feel better tomorrow. How are you? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:16, 11 May 2025 (UTC) ::Well I'm here for you my friend. I'm doing alright. Take it easy! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:40, 12 May 2025 (UTC) :::Appreciate it! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:50, 12 May 2025 (UTC) == You ok? == @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:15, 14 May 2025 (UTC) :yeah, i'm fine. thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:28, 15 May 2025 (UTC) == Hi, how do you read me == Hi, I included you at your request into the "pingrr" list recently. You'd've received a few dozens of "RR" echo notifications in the last two weeks. Did they arrive? Could you please tell me what is preventing you from responding to them? Revision requests are an essential part of the collaboration process, and your participation is vitally important. Please provide me with the feedback, it would help me a lot with making this process more efficient and easier for you to use. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:24, 18 May 2025 (UTC) :Sorry, its currently busy season at work. I work in lawn care. I try to make revisions when I can, and I certainly respond more than at least 80% of the people who are pinged. Im sorry my volunteer time is limited at the moment. Several of my articles went stale waiting for review priod to my involuntary wikibreak. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:13, 18 May 2025 (UTC) ::No problem. I just wanted to check the setup is working. Ping me if you have a news story in mind but no time to write of it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:26, 19 May 2025 (UTC) == Top article in April! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Original author for the top article published in April, 2025. The article has at least 1,754 views, the highest for year so far!]] Thank you for starting the article titled "[[Streaming platform Twitch bans rapper Kanye West seven minutes into first stream for performing "Nazi salute"]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in April of 2025, and the highest so far of 2025! Bam! 💥 {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image--> As the original author, you can also use the following userbox on your user page: {{userbox | id = [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025-mini.png|40px]] | info = ''This user was the original author of the [[Wikinews:2025 Boost publication rate/Monthly top article|top article]] for April, 2025'' | border-s = 1 }} {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image--> Thank you for your continued efforts at not only starting new articles but contributing to others as well. Your collaborative efforts are greatly appreciated. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:54, 20 May 2025 (UTC) :Awesome! I can't wait to get back to writing. I have some merciless "{{w|adulting}}" to attend to in my personal life at the moment. When I'm back writing, you'll all know it. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:52, 20 May 2025 (UTC) ::Totally understand. Take care of what you need to, and we’ll be glad to see you back when the time’s right. Looking forward to it! —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:55, 20 May 2025 (UTC) == Come back please == Wikinews needs you, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 15:47, 15 June 2025 (UTC) :Hey. I heard about what's going on. Im going to try to find some free time this week to get some articles written to try to help save the project. Sorry for the radio silence [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:20, 29 June 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], thanks for sticking around! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:28, 29 June 2025 (UTC) == Your stories are stale == Sorry, @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:09, 29 June 2025 (UTC) :Are you sure? The gambling story happened Friday and the Beyonce story happened last night, from what I can tell. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:14, 29 June 2025 (UTC) ::You need stories to be '''"fresh"''' even a day old is stale. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:19, 29 June 2025 (UTC) :::Ideally yeah, but it's not stale until seven days have passed since the focal point of the story. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:14, 29 June 2025 (UTC) ::::Ok [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:20, 29 June 2025 (UTC) == Hello from Gryllida == Hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Would you be interested in joining as a reviewer? If you were, I or another reviewer of your interest would be doing it together with you for the first several months to assist. Similarly, would you be interested in helping with page deletions and blocking users, and removing vandalism. Is this something you have done before and do you have an interest? Are there any changes to the workflow that you would consider helpful? Are you on any IM platform such as Discord, Linphone (SIP), Matrix, where we could exchange messages, screenshots, and sometimes audio calls? Regards, - [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:04, 8 July 2025 (UTC) :Hey! That sounds like a good offer. Definitely curious to see what I can bring as a reviewer. I have no expirience blocking users or deleting pages. Give me a few days to sleep on it. Thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:02, 9 July 2025 (UTC) ::Hey Lofi Gurl, and are you on any of the IM platforms? Maybe Telegram? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 17:53, 6 August 2025 (UTC) :::I plan on creating a discord account for my Wiki stuff. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:07, 6 August 2025 (UTC) ::::any luck? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:48, 14 January 2026 (UTC) == Community response to SPTF's recommendation to close ''Wikinews'' == The Wikimedia Foundation’s Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF) has issued a [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|recommendation to close Wikinews]]. A community response to the Task Force is underway and I believe it's critical that we show clear support from contributors, reviewers, and administrators if we want Wikinews to remain open. If you believe Wikinews still has potential for revitalization and should remain active, I ask that you: * Review and help improve the draft community response, and/or * Add your endorsement once you're comfortable with the language The goal is to finalize the draft before the [[m:Event:Community_consultation_on_Wikispore/Wikinews,_call_1|July 16 Task Force call]], so our response is ready for consideration. You can find the draft here: 👉 [[Wikinews:Response to Proposal for Closing Wikinews]] Thanks for considering. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:49, 11 July 2025 (UTC) == Thank you my friend! == Good work on la explosion [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:12, 18 July 2025 (UTC) @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] :Thanks for bringing the story! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:13, 18 July 2025 (UTC) ::We need to block those ips. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:41, 18 July 2025 (UTC) :::I reported them, all I can do. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:47, 18 July 2025 (UTC) ::::I know.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:47, 18 July 2025 (UTC) == Nigerian abductors article == If you can find an image to add (even just a file photo or whatever) -- I think we might be able to get that one published. It could use ''maybe'' one more sentence while you're at it too?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:39, 29 July 2025 (UTC) :Yeah I'll take a look at it. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:44, 30 July 2025 (UTC) == Top article in July! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in July, 2025. The article has at least 3,583 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[20-year-old astrophotographer captures rare solar eclipse on Saturn]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in July of 2025. This is your second barn star for top article! Thanks for your continued, hard work! {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image-->[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:35, 4 August 2025 (UTC) == [[Talk:Several people hospitalized after thousands of hotdogs spill following collision on interstate in Pennsylvania]] == i published article, please check talk page for feedback thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 17:51, 6 August 2025 (UTC) == Live chat software trial == Live chat software trial (August-September 2025) Hi, i am running a software to make live chat easier to use. It requires installation of QuasselDroid on Android, Quassel Client on Windows or Mac or Linux, and I don't know what on iOS (let me know if this is your main platform). The software would connect you to the official IRC channel for Wikinews and stay connected including all chat history, including when you closed the app. I am achieving this by hosting it on my Quassel Core on my server. If you are interested in trying this option, please install the Quassel Client software, and after this is done (not before), ensure you have a working email in your [[Special:Preferences]] so i can email you login credentials, and specify your desired IRC nickname. Please note this is open source software with low bandwidth usage and the communication is only via text, so it is not privacy invasive. This platform is older than the web, irc existed since 1980s. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:03, 7 August 2025 (UTC) :Hi, please install the Quassel Client, it is free/open source, low bandwidth, low RAM and CPU usage :and tell me your desired nickname :I would greatly appreciated if you could use it for a few weeks and then leave me some feedback. This chat platform has 3 reviewers on it, and yourself being sitting in chat all 24/7 via this software could make collaboration much easier as then others could send messages to the group while your device is offline, and you could get notifications on mobile. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:07, 10 August 2025 (UTC) ::I will install this when I get home from the city today. Thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:40, 10 August 2025 (UTC) :::👍 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:42, 10 August 2025 (UTC) ::::I got them downloaded for both Windows and Android. My name can just be Lofi Gurl on there. Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:03, 10 August 2025 (UTC) == Train derails article == Sad event. Excellent coverage, though.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:21, 12 August 2025 (UTC) :Thank you. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:15, 12 August 2025 (UTC) == Re: [[EasyJet pilot dismissed after being allegedly spotted naked and intoxicated in 5-star hotel, reports say]] == Hi Lofi Gurl * please refocus on a recent event with [[WN:IP|inverted pyramid]] and re submit @ [[Talk:EasyJet pilot dismissed after being allegedly spotted naked and intoxicated in 5-star hotel, reports say]] Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:19, 19 August 2025 (UTC) == Re: [[Stunt performer set ablaze for cover artwork of Pink Floyd album dies aged 88]] == can you please try to find a photo of the person in 12h to add to story thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:23, 19 August 2025 (UTC) :The only one I have of him is from Wikipedia and it's fair use only. I don't know how to obtain permission to use that here. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:32, 19 August 2025 (UTC) == Thank you!!! == For your help with the church shooting article! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:25, 28 August 2025 (UTC) :No prob! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:06, 28 August 2025 (UTC) == Thank you == For the help on shark story! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:27, 7 September 2025 (UTC) :No, thank you for getting the story! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:33, 7 September 2025 (UTC) == Top article for August! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Original author for the top article published in August, 2025. The article has at least 2,685 views.]] Thank you for starting the article titled "[[Several people hospitalized after thousands of hotdogs spill following collision on interstate in Pennsylvania]]." As of today, the article has the highest number of page-views of all articles published in August of 2025. {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image--> As the original author, you can also use the following userbox on your user page: {{userbox | id = [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025-mini.png|40px]] | info = ''This user was the original author of the [[Wikinews:2025 Boost publication rate/Monthly top article|top article]] for August, 2025'' | border-s = 1 }} {{clear}} Hot diggity dog, you nailed it![[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:30, 14 September 2025 (UTC) :Congrats for your article! Attracting that amount of readers to a story about a local hot dog spill is not small feat. [[User:Dsuke1998AEOS|Dsuke1998]][[Special:Contributions/Dsuke1998AEOS|AEOS]] ('''[[User talk:Dsuke1998AEOS|talk]]''') 01:09, 16 September 2025 (UTC) ::Thanks guys! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 14:58, 16 September 2025 (UTC) == How are you? == hi pal @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:51, 23 September 2025 (UTC) :Im okay. Moving this weekend. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:51, 23 September 2025 (UTC) == Hi friend == How you doing? @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:13, 6 October 2025 (UTC) == Reviewing == Hi - I'm new here, trying to help out (recruited from elsewiki). I see you've been contributing here a while - is it possible you are ready to become a reviewer? Would that interest you? I'm still learning what's going on here. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 21:26, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :I actually have an open request for reviewership open somewhere haha! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:33, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::I'm trying to get some reform going to save this cite, maybe you have some input. I posted at [[Wikinews talk:Newsworthiness]]... [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 22:40, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::Reviewer permission granted. Congratulations, Lofi Gurl! Just reviewing one story a week would be more than sufficient, I think doing more than that is a risk of burnout. Up to you. :) Let me know if any questions. Thanks, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 02:40, 10 October 2025 (UTC) :::This is awesome news! Yeah, one review per week sounds good to me. Thank you! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:03, 10 October 2025 (UTC) :::: Congratulations! I'll help out however I can. My availability will be short and sporadic likely for the next week. But the goal is not to just hand you the reviewer role and let you learn it on your own (that happened to me). :::: First step is ensuring you now see the "Review" action in the top-right of your browser when you view articles in the review queue. Once you click on "Review" for an article, you should now see an interface that allows you to select options via drop-down menus for the five areas we review. All of those drop-downs must be "pass" for the article to pass. Otherwise the gadget will label the article 'not ready.' :::: Have a look at the following for other advice and info: :::: ::::* [[User:Michael.C.Wright/Review process study/Reviewer lane|Michael.C.Wright/Review process study/Reviewer lane]] (brief overview of full, reviewer workflow) ::::* [[Wikinews:Review checklist|Review checklist]] (process of reviewing) ::::* [[Wikinews:Tips on reviewing articles|Tips on reviewing articles]] (old essay representing the intent of the 'modern review process') ::::* [[Wikinews:Publish checklist|Publish checklist]] (additional steps needed once an article passes review) :::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:21, 11 October 2025 (UTC) :::::Congratulations @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] on becoming a new reviewer! I also think new reviewers might benefit from [[Wikinews:Gadgets and Tools/easyPeerReview|documentation on how to use the easyPeerReview]] gadget (this is the gadget that shows the "Review" option in the top-right tools menu and opens the review template with dropdown options). If any reviewer is interested, perhaps a short guide for the gadget would be helpful. Although, I am not sure if there's already any documentation available for the easyPeerReview gadget. [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:07, 11 October 2025 (UTC) :::::: After some digging I found [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Template:Peer_reviewed#Use_.5BUsing_Easy_Peer_Review.5D this] but it could use expanding. That's something I can do, possibly within the next few weeks if someone else doesn't get to it beforehand.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:22, 13 October 2025 (UTC) ::Hey - I saw your post elsewhere where once again you expressed your frustration at what is going on in this site. I'm sorry if my attempts to get _some_ change going in time to make a difference bothered you, and definitely not happy that no change happened and that people obfuscated the issue on the talk page to the point where nothing was clear. That all speaks to the problems here. There is so much disrespect floating around on this site currently, I do tend to think that there isn't much to be done as it is right now. I fully understand your frustration, and seeing it was part of what motivated me to seek change. This site was in a state of emergency and no one acted to fix it. Anyway maybe I'll bump into you on en.wikipedia proper, I'm sure if you want to you'll find something to contribute; or if not there, who knows where else? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:18, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::Thanks for the message. Your efforts did not bother me at all. It wasn't like this when I first joined. Some of my articles would go stale waiting for review, but it was rare. My previous 8-9 articles over the last few months, and not a single one got reviewed. It is what it is. Yeah, you'll probably see me over at the current events articles on ENWP in the future. At least there you can work at your own pace. Why feel pressure to write fresh content if it can't get reviewed on time anyway? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:30, 4 December 2025 (UTC) ::::Exactly - and the fact that no one was doing the reviews certainly puts out the message - whether true or not - that the reviewers care less about this project than the ones submitting the articles. This is made worse by the fact that there may be more reviewers than article contributors at this point. Regardless, we really needed a short term solution here, and no one was interested (actually, some WERE interested, but it got obfuscated away. Some people even claimed you supported the status quo!) So it goes! At least personally I met a few nice wiki folks I would not have found otherwise. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:57, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::::It could be argued that I was more in a position to make an impact here since I was nade reviwer, but truthfully I just dont really know what I'm doing. I definitely didnt support the status quo, I just was not interested in loosening the site's guidelines. I just cant help but wonder how this looks to the outside -- all these articles getting neglected and trashed while dozens are calling for the whole thing to be shut down. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:16, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::::: With EzPR 2025, we can do partial reviews. So you could start a review and when you get to a point where you want help, you can save the partial review and tag another reviewer for a hand (I'd be happy to help). :::::: Also, if the review process is daunting enough to keep you from doing the review, I think it would help everyone if you could articulate what is holding you back. It could be that the same thing is impacting other reviewers and it should therefore be changed. :::::: You have fresh eyes on the review process and may see things differently than those who have done it for some time.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:06, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::That sounds like it might be worth a try. How do I access EzPR 2025? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:44, 5 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::: It should show up in the Tools menu, the same place EzPR shows up (for me, they are stacked on top of each other in the right-hand sidebar). If you view an article [[Raccoon found passed out in liquor store after drunken rampage|marked for review]], you should see "Review (EPRv2)" in your Tools. That's it. :::::::: If you'd like to start with the [[Raccoon found passed out in liquor store after drunken rampage|Racoon story]], I'll step away from it. Initially to me it looks like a relatively solid article and is light-hearted, with little risk of serious ramifications of libel or defamation if we get it wrong (as opposed to an interview with a prominent figure, for example).[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:10, 5 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::::The EzPR 2025 will not show up automatically like the old one. EzPR is enabled by default for all reviewers as a gadget, while EzPR 2025 is not currently a gadget. :::::::::So @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], if you want to use it, let me know and I can enable/install it for you. After that, you will find "Review (EPRv2)" in your Tools menu. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:21, 5 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::::: Ahhh, sorry. I thought it was now in testing by all reviewers.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:22, 5 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::::::I can enable it for all reviewers by default, so they don't have to manually install it. But I chose not to do that initially because it seems a bit bold to me. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:31, 5 December 2025 (UTC) ::::::::: @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], I went ahead and published the raccoon story. But feel free to jump into the next story you feel comfortable with.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:24, 5 December 2025 (UTC) {{outdent|11}}Sometimes bold is good. ツ I think you've been very careful so far and personally trust that you won't blow anything up. But its your call. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:41, 5 December 2025 (UTC) == Top article in September! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in September, 2025. The article has at least 4,083 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[Shark attack kills Australian surfer off Long Reef Beach, Sydney]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in September of 2025. Your name keeps popping up as a contributor or original author in the monthly top article. Thank you for your continued effort! This was also the highest number of page-views yet this year. {{clear}}<!--keep the template:clear so new sections are bumped up to wrap around image-->[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:25, 14 October 2025 (UTC) == welcome back == Hi friend glad to have you back @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:01, 19 October 2025 (UTC) :Thanks. Good to finally have internet again. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:10, 19 October 2025 (UTC) == Hello == Saw your story about Sam Rivers. Unfortunately I am away and cannot review until around mid November. Please check [[Newsroom]] and [[WN:IRC|live chat]] to help with editing other reports as this may help publish yours sooner. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:09, 20 October 2025 (UTC) :Heard. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:23, 20 October 2025 (UTC) == Scoop access == As a reviewer, you should have access to Scoop so that you can receive OR material. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] manages the email server and should be able to set up an account for you. If you haven't done so already, you should reach out and request an account. It might be a while before you're comfortable reviewing OR, and that's okay. It is a bit of a different beast. But you should have access to Scoop now so you can see the material and otherwise use it to assist with developing OR and getting it closer to a publishable state.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:22, 21 October 2025 (UTC) :For scoop account username: it is not the same as your wiki login; unfortunately the email server was not setup for OAuth login. Usually, but not always, it's the legal first name and last name, to make the request more professional in the case you might need to contact one of the OR involved parties to confirm some information; one of the reviewers uses just their first name only for the username and one used their wiki nick. '''Please tell me what username for scoop email you would like.''' Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:51, 21 October 2025 (UTC) == Using EasyPeerReview == Hey there, I finally got around to starting a help page for EasyPeerReview at [[Help:EasyPeerReview]]. Verify you have access to EzPR (you see the Review link in Actions when viewing an article marked with {{tl|Review}}) and have a look at the help page. Let me know if the page is actually helpful. Let me know if you want to jump into a review together or if you have any questions about the process, where to find things, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:42, 12 November 2025 (UTC) :Hi. Sorry for disappearing. I recently moved out of my parents' house and I am working three jobs now. I have not had time for wiki projects unfortunately. I can't lose monentum towards getting my shit together in real life. I hope to have a new laptop this winter and hope to be back going strong around that time. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:06, 15 November 2025 (UTC) :: Get yer shit together, why don't ya? ツ :: No worries. It sounds like you are making the right priorities. 👍[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:24, 15 November 2025 (UTC) :::Thank you for understanding. I just went down from three jobs to two, so I am hoping I can at least start helping out with pre-reviews more regularly. I'm nervous about doing full reviews by myself though. I'm so sorry for falling off the grid. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:16, 20 November 2025 (UTC) == You still with us? == Haven't heard from you in awhile. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:33, 18 November 2025 (UTC) :I'm not really able to contribute in any meaningful way with the amount of free time I currently have. Sorry. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:50, 19 November 2025 (UTC) :Thank you for checking in though homie, the last two months in particular have been pretty challenging for me. But I'm getting through it. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:25, 20 November 2025 (UTC) ::Sending good vibes! You got this! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:44, 20 November 2025 (UTC) ::Please consider to try [[User:Asked42/Taglet]] it is a 5 min a day commitment to a triage process of new drafts, that helps other users a lot. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:55, 21 November 2025 (UTC) == Welcome back == Hi friend @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :Good to see ya [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:41, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :Happy turkey day [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:41, 27 November 2025 (UTC) == My attacks on you as a person == It might sound like the same old thing, but I do in fact apologize to you for my negative attacking of you. You can choose to accept or decline my attempted apologize, thank you again. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:33, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :Its fine, no hard feelings. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:42, 4 December 2025 (UTC) ::Same [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:47, 4 December 2025 (UTC) == Never give up my Friend == I will never lose Faith in you. We have had our spats but positivity is good for us. Hope life gets better. Talk soon? @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:05, 7 December 2025 (UTC) :Yeah, you'll see me around. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:02, 8 December 2025 (UTC) :Sorry for the profane edit summaries today [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:22, 8 December 2025 (UTC) == Wasn't expecting == Hey thanks so much for helping the drug bust story. I wasn't expecting anyone to help it out. My bad abandoning habits. Anyways thank you! You did a great job by the way! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:02, 9 December 2025 (UTC) :Thanks dude [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:18, 9 December 2025 (UTC) == Well done == Great job @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:47, 13 December 2025 (UTC) :thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:50, 13 December 2025 (UTC) == Starting a review == Hi, hope you Are doing well. From [[Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Removal/Lofi Gurl|your comment]], it appears you were struggling to start a review on an article as you mentioned you couldn't find any buttons. For your convenience, I've prepared a Review Launcher. Just [[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)#Review launcher widget|visit the page]], enter the article name you want to review, and click the "Start Review" button. That's it. After clicking Start Review, you will be redirected to the article page, wait for 1-2 seconds and the peer-review form should open for you. Use that form to submit your review result. I hope this isn't too complicated. If at any point you feel lost, just let me know. I understand that you may not be interested in reviewing at the moment, but if the reason is simply not knowing how to start the review, this approach might be helpful. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:31, 21 December 2025 (UTC) :A detailed documentation on how to use the peer-review form is [[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)|available here]]. If you still need more assistance, I can share some screenshots with you via email showing how to use the form. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:33, 21 December 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:44, 21 December 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you so much. I will keep this in mind once I get my head clear. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:12, 23 December 2025 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Barnes and noble stabbing]] (December 26) == Rewrite is requested 1) Please add a note about whether the victim died. This is essential to clarify this, even if the article mentions "murder"; specify whether the victim died on the scene or in an ambulance or in a hospital. Please fix this issue and re-submit for review. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:14, 26 December 2025 (UTC) :Please also move the page. The headline should contain a verb. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:16, 26 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[United States, Florida: A man fatally stabs a Barnes & Noble bookstore shopper, claims 'no cause' to police]] (December 26) == hello, this message is sent to all contributors to the article. some of the comments below may or may not be useful to you, please check them carefully for your future edits or for helping to revise after another user. i did this 1) renamed to clearer headline 2) copyedited second paragraph to replace 'She' with 'The victim' i am requesting further edits: 1) specify source for '9:22pm' 2) add a photo of a barnes and noble book store please do these changes now, and i will sight the edits thank you -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:31, 26 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Keyboardist-guitarist of English rock band The Cure dies aged 65]] (January 3) == Event over 7 days old. Passing as exception in context of following factors * nobody was around on holidays anyway (I am being lenient) * the article is well written * it is obituary about a person's whole life so it is still slightly newsy for a while Please do not consider this as precedent for future articles. Thanks -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:42, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Pile up involving dozens of cars on Japan highway kills two]] (January 3) == comment left by reviewer 1) event dec26 not new anymore see [[WN:Freshness]] action requested 1) please report a newer "more current" event not this old one thanks -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:57, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Residents shelter in place for hours after gas leak outside of Los Angeles]] (January 3) == Published. Congratulations, and thank you for starting, or revising, the article. Notes from reviewer: 1) This is on the edge of being old and no longer 'news', but still acceptable. 2) If AI/LLM was used, please leave a note on the article talk page immediately. This is required. Thank you. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:06, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Welcome back == Hi [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] * Follow these instructions [[Wikinews:Easy_Peer_Review_(2025_version)#Getting_Started|get started]] says "''To use it, go to any article that you want to review (make sure it has the {{tl|review}} template). You will find a "Review (EPRv2)" option in your "Actions" menu (in the Vector 2022 skin) or the "More" menu (in the Vector 2010 skin). After clicking this option, a form will appear at the top of the article.''". are you seeing this button? Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:48, 14 January 2026 (UTC) :no, I am not seeing either of these buttons on articles submitted for review. Im only seeing an option to prevreview. I use the 2010 skin. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:03, 14 January 2026 (UTC) :Nevermind, I FINALLY found it. It was under the "More" tab. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:06, 14 January 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father]] (January 19) == {{Notify_review/notready|article=Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father|author=Lofi Gurl|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:53, 19 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father]] (January 20) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father|author=Lofi Gurl|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:09, 20 January 2026 (UTC) :Credit truly goes to [[User:Gryllida]] and [[User:BigKrow]]. All I did was "get" this story. Thanks for running with it! I will attempt to review some articles this week. I will be forced to wing it. Perfectist anxiety is the only thing holding me back at this point. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:59, 20 January 2026 (UTC) == Hello == Hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] you still around? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:01, 16 February 2026 (UTC) :Hi. Good to see ya. My heart is not in current events at the moment. I plan to resume involvement here when I am convinced I can make more meaningful contributions. It doesn't look like there has been much activity here. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:32, 16 February 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] I agree with you that activity has been a bit hit and miss. Could you please let me know what is the criteria for this? What would convince you that the activity level is adequate? Knowing this could help to reach and maintain activity sooner. 😊 Thank you. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:43, 18 February 2026 (UTC) :::I just think at this point many editors are reluctant to write new articles due to lack of active reviewers, many articles went stale while waiting for review this year. I overestimated what I was able to accomplish as a reviewer, I just don't have the time or focus right now and I'd review articles if I wasn't so concerned about publicly making a mistake. But I think Wikinews needs to be publishing at least one article per day to remain a viable destination for readers and to encourage more participation. I would have done way more these past four months if I didn't have so much crap going on in my personal life related to living situations, employment, transportation and mental health. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:20, 19 February 2026 (UTC) ::::got it thanks it sounds reasonable. one article per day is a goal i saw mentioned more than once. 😊 Thank you. Regards [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:03, 20 February 2026 (UTC) == streak proposal == Hi, I am proposing to setup [[:w:streak]] goals over a 12 week period: for example, * "write one story each two weeks, and [[:wikt:babysit|babysit]] it until it is published" This could be either authoring a completely new article or this could be taking over someone else's article and doing focused editing on it with active collaboration with others until it is published. It is like a [[:wikt:day shift|day shift]] as you are expected to remain available '[[:wikt:on call|on call]]' to address concerns from another user or reviewer. The aim of this is to build a habit of participation with [[:wikt:outburst|outburst]]s of eyeballing the page to collaborate with others -- but not every day, to have breaks and reduce [[:wikt:burnout|burnout]]. Could you please check out at '''[[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Streak_themed_competition_proposal|this section]]''' and let me know what you think? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 03:15, 22 February 2026 (UTC) == Here&comma; hold this == <div style="display:flex;align-items:center;justify-content:center;text-align:center;flex-wrap:wrap;margin:2em 0">[[File:Rainbow trout transparent.png|175px|link=wikipediawikipedia:Trout|alt=a rainbow trout fish]]<div style="width:280px"><p style="font-size: 225%; color: Red;">'''''Whack!'''''</p><p style="font-size: 115%;">''You've been [[:wikipediawikipedia:Whacking with a wet trout|whacked with a wet trout]].''</p><small>{{{1|Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.}}}</small><!--Template:Trout--> </div></div> An award for all your edits made while under the in&fllig;uence&period; [[User:Anohthterwikipedian|Anohthterwikipedian]] ([[User talk:Anohthterwikipedian|talk]]) 00:47, 5 March 2026 (UTC) :Thank you very much. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:49, 5 March 2026 (UTC) ::dont feed into them @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 02:09, 5 March 2026 (UTC) == srry == brah i saw your user page srry. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 17:53, 11 March 2026 (UTC) :I went to the BMV in person and they gave me the steps to get it reinstated so it's all good hopefully. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:11, 11 March 2026 (UTC) == queue == Just noting there are around 5 stories in queue which were created or substantially expanded by me and I would appreciate if you could have a look! I have none I can publish thus far as I was involved in editing. Thank you! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:06, 11 March 2026 (UTC) :alright, I'll take a look! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:08, 11 March 2026 (UTC) ::well done! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 01:16, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :::Thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:22, 12 March 2026 (UTC) == Reviewing and publishing == Thank you for stepping into the review queue. Reviewing can be thought of as a two-part process: 1. [[Wikinews:Review checklist|Review]]<br> 2. [[Wikinews:Publish checklist|Publish]] The publishing process involves updating our Main page with the new article. The easiest way to do this is to use [[User:Asked42/LeadManager]], which you'll need to install using the instructions [[User:Asked42/LeadManager#Installation|provided on the tool's page]]. As long as all of the reviewers publish articles immediately after reviewing them, the 5 leads will stay up-to-date. Let me know if you need help with anything, or if any part of the checklists is unclear. Much of the review and publishing process becomes second nature to experienced reviewers, and it is easy to forget how overwhelming it can feel in the beginning.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:15, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :thank you! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:46, 12 March 2026 (UTC) == The sources section can be the third rail for reviewers == Reviewers aren't supposed to add or remove sources as part of the review process. Any source listed is assumed to have been used to directly support statements of fact in the article (because that is what is required of authors). When reviewers come across paywalled sources in the sources list, they need to stop the review process and ask the contributors to remove it and any statements supported solely by it. This delays publishing, but helps to ensure accuracy, which is more important than rapid publishing.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:46, 12 March 2026 (UTC) : And to be clear, this isn't meant to be a criticism, but hopefully helpful 'on-boarding.'[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:53, 12 March 2026 (UTC) ::Heard, thanks a bunch [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:35, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :FWIW, while I agree that what described above is one option (and is better than removing the problematic source and leaving content unchanged), it is my position that, if a reviewer had time to remove ''both'' the problematic source and the information that came from it, while remaining confident that all remaining information is verifiable, then, that reviewer is allowed to complete the review and publish the page. I believe that the process I have described reduces delay waiting for author to revise, and does not compromise quality of the review process. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:25, 13 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Woman charged with attempted homicide after allegedly firing shots at Barbadian pop singer Rihanna's house]] (March 13) == Hi all... I would lile to request a major rewrite: 1) LA Times is paywalled. Please replace, and ensure new content is fully verifiable; then re-submit for review. Please let me know if this is in error, or any questions or request assistance. Thanks! ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:46, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :I dont understand why these sites let me read it and then paywall the article later. Probably so some free news source can't use it as a source for their own article. :P [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:28, 12 March 2026 (UTC) ::Maybe they let you read the first 2-3 pages and then after a few pages, start to demand subscription. :-( [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:15, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :::lets take a deep breath and continue on. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 01:17, 13 March 2026 (UTC) ::::It should be an easy fix. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:50, 13 March 2026 (UTC) == Front page headlines == Hi, do you know why [[Australian Minister for Energy lowers fuel standards for 60 days amid rising oil prices, panic buying]] did not show up as one of the front page lead articles after it was published? This has been a recurring problem as discussed at [[Wikinews:Water cooler/technical#Improper 'circle']] and [[Wikinews:Water cooler/technical#The lead articles need to be changed]]. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:33, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :I have no idea honestly. Sometimes when I publish an article, there's a button asking me I want to post it to the front page, sometimes there isn't. I don't think hitting the button has really done anything though, at least for me. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:37, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :: You can still use Lead Manager independently of EZPR 2025. If, for some reason you aren't prompted to update the leads after a successful review or you leave the page without clicking the button, you can still do so by going to [[User:Asked42/LeadManager]]. It will allow you to update the leads individually, serially, or in a custom fashion. :: By default, LM pulls in the last five articles into the "title" drop-down field. If you just click in the title field, you will be presented with a clickable list of the last five published articles. You can simply select the target article, "fetch automatically" the first two sentences, tweak the imported text and image if you'd like, then "Start update" will make the changes. :: To get used to the tools and processes, you can likely skip the 'additional options' area and just publish a single article after a successful review.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:28, 13 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], Let me know if you want me to install the LeadManager script for you, so that you can just start using it. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 16:38, 13 March 2026 (UTC) : I have updated the leads to include the article.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:48, 13 March 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground]] (March 22) == <div style="border:2px solid #57DB1E;background:linear-gradient(135deg,#E6FFE6 0%,#F0FFF0 100%);padding:1em 1.5em;color:#1a1a1a;margin:1.5em;border-radius:4px;box-shadow:0 2px 8px rgba(87,219,30,0.15);"> [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|50px|left|link=]] <div style="margin-left:64px;"> <span style="font-size:1.1em;font-weight:bold;color:#2d5016;"> Hi Lofi Gurl! Thank you for your submission! </span><br/> Your article '''[[South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground]]''' has been reviewed by '''{{User|Gryllida}}''', and it has been accepted and published. '''Congratulations! 🎉''' <div style="margin-top:0.5em;"> The reviewer's comments and decision are available on the [[Talk:South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground|article's talk page]]. </div> <div style="margin-top:0.5em;"> Excellent work, please keep it up! We hope you will continue contributing to Wikinews. If you have some time, consider taking a look at other articles currently [[:Category:Developing|under development]] or [[:Category:Review|awaiting review]]. Your help in improving or reviewing them would be greatly appreciated. </div> <div style="font-size:0.9em;color:#555;"> ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. </div></div></div> -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:34, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :That was a weird bug: I specified an empty custom comment, as my clipboard was borked. :Here is a copy... :A few remarks: :1. Having checked sources, I needed to make some changes, such as "near the neck" and not "in the neck", and the bombing incident was last year (not two years ago). Please check the edit history carefully and let me know if any of my changes were incorrect. :2. I am trying to push towards more exclusive content or more closer follow ups here. Could you please either think of the questions to ask the South Korean Army, or, write a follow up report when the investigations completed and drills resumed? :3. Barely newsworthy as this is nearly 5 days old but I think this is fine to publish. :4. For npov balance, recommend including responses from other sources, i.e., from someone who is not a part of the South Korean Army. This may be done up to 24 hours after the story is published. :Overall, this looks great, I appreciate the report!!! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:37, 22 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[7-ton meteor traverses sky over Ohio and several other US states]] (March 27) == Sorry, this report went stale. ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:38, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[AC/DC guitarist Stevie Young admitted to hospital in Buenos Aires, spokesperson says]] (March 27) == Sorry, this report went stale. Did he survive? ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:41, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Might write some today possibly later == thanks @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:07, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :I'll try to do a few reviews before I go out tonight. I'm going to focus on reviews since it's a fair assumption now that nobody will even look at the articles I submit. It's the only way I can try to fix this project's problems at this point. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:13, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Regarding your move of my article == Hello, Lofi Gurl! I think my article is best located at [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts Christians of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians in landmark ruling]] rather than [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts politicians of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians in landmark ruling]], because, of the four defendants convicted in the case, only one is a politician. The other individual is a bishop. The other two defendants are institutions. The only thing that the four defendants, consisting of two individuals and two institutions, have in common is that they are all Christian. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 19:09, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :okay, sorry for the overreaction. I despise religious fundamentalism and bigotry but I just wanted to make sure the title wasn't going after Christians as some sort of ethnic group or something. But then, Christianity is a {{w|universal religion}}, so I'm not sure the same principles apply anyway. No idea why I'm saying this. I have {{w|religious trauma}} from my Protestant upbringing and I listen to Satanic {{w|death metal}} every day of my life, and idk I guess I just didn't want thst influence creeping into my writing and creating a potential conflict of interest. Thanks for the message. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:40, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thank you for letting me know. I actually went to great lengths to balance the article, get perspectives from all sides, sources from all sides, strongly ground the article in the sources, provide perspectives from all sides, and stay neutral and stick to the facts. This is my very first ever Wikinews article. Since you seem to care about both factuality and neutrality, would you mind reviewing the article? I think it is ready for publication. What do you think? --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:27, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :::Yes absolutely. I should have some time to review stuff while dogsitting tonight. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:24, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Thank you for your review. I appreciate most of your edits, but in [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Supreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_Christians_of_crimes_against_the_humanity_of_gays_and_lesbians_in_landmark_ruling&diff=5002549&oldid=5002548 this edit] you removed the global scientific consensus regarding homosexuality saying that it is "emotional language", but it is scientific language that all scientific, medical, psychological, psychiatric, and pediatric associations, institutions, and organisations use to describe homosexuality, especially against false claims such those made in the pamphlet. I used the World Medical Association as a source, but there are thousands of more sources that use that language. The World Medical Association itself is an international federation of over a hundred national medical associations. Attributing that scientific language to the World Medical Association alone would give readers the incorrect impression that only the World Medical Association holds that position, when in fact it is the common position of all scientific, medical, psychological, psychiatric, and pediatric associations, institutions, and organisations in the whole world. Obviously, it would be impractical to cite every single one of thousands of scientific, medical, psychological, psychiatric, and pediatric associations, institutions, and organisations in the world, which is I cited the World Medical Association, which itself is an international federation of over a hundred national medical associations. Is your review complete? Is the article ready for publication? This is my very first ever Wikinews article, so I'm not entirely familiar with process here. Thank you for your help. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 17:49, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :::::We can just say "according to scientific consensus" then. I mostly just thought the passage was really wordy with way too many adjectives. It's close to being ready for publication. I cleaned it up the best I could without making major revisions and all I need to do now is verify all the claims and check for copyright violations. I'll likely do it later tonight. I was severely hungover yesterday and had to go to sleep early, but I'm good now. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:31, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::I'll leave it in your capable hands then! I'm looking forward to the publication of my very first Wikinews article! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 23:11, 29 March 2026 (UTC) Hi, Lofi Gurl! I appreciate your edits and your review, but I think that changing the title made it too vague, and the previous title was more specific. You said that [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Supreme_Court_of_Finland_makes_crimes_against_humanity_convictions_in_landmark_ruling&diff=5002876&oldid=5002875 "Don wanted this title changed I think"], but I actually couldn't find a comment from Don saying that he wanted the title changed. Are you done reviewing the article? Can we publish the article now? --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:28, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I'm concerned I may have made too substantial of changes to the article to remain an uninvolved reviewer. They just announced today Wikinews is closing and I am gutted. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:04, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Your edits seem to be only related to getting the article ready for publicaiton, so that should not be a problem, right? Also, oh no! That's awful! Why are they closing Wikinews? I really put in a lot of work into that article, so is it possible to get it published before? [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 21:10, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::The project is being closed due to low user engagement. The "current events" module on the front page of Wikipedia does a better job at reporting current events than Wikinews. It is much more timely on Wikipedia, and edits can be published faster because i'm pretty sure that project is not subject to the same libel regulations as this project, as wikipedia is not a news publication. By contrast, Wikinews has a rigorous review process to ensure quality, which sounds good on paper, but ultimately fails when the existing reviewers are either unable or unwilling to perform a review in time to get it published. Most articles that did manage to get published on this site were usually posted 4-5 days after the fact, when the news cycle has effectively moved on. Ive had an extremely difficult time getting anyone to even look at anything I've written these last six months here on the project. This is an experience shared by [[User:Tduk]]. There were a few successful publications during that time. But lets be real. Wikinews is a failed experiment. The Wikimedia Foundation doesn't want to pay for the server costs to host this project. They want to focus on Wikipedia. I thought I could help get things moving in the right direction and help save the project from closure, but the truth is I simply overestimated this project abd overestimated what I was able to realistically do. Adderall is one hell of a drug. Anyway, for what its worth, I did deeply care about this project, I thought the concept was so cool, I guess some things just dont work in practice. That pretty much sums it up, let me know if you have any further questions. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:47, 4 April 2026 (UTC) == Just a check-in == ....the India article? Still reviewing that one? Didn't want to mess with it if you are.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:58, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == Please don't bite my head off == Just a heads up Im starting a Miraheze here about English Wikinews, thanks. https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/78142 Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:54, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I'm not going to bite your head off haha. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:09, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::thnx Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:12, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::I guess pinging is getting me in trouble with some people so I'll make it quick, https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::Someone will need to discuss and decide on new name. I asked whether trademarked word 'Wikinews' can be used, and have not got an answer to that, yet. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:32, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == Negativity == You've been a pretty solid contributor and I hope that you don't let the negativity and hypocrisy surrounding this site get to you too much. At least, I've noted how you've been trying to move things more than many others here. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 02:14, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :It's fine. Don't worry. I kind of knew this project was a dead end job and wasn't really worth the effort I was putting in trying to save it. I just kept getting sucked back in every time I tried to quit, so in a way I'm kind of glad the project is closing. It was probably going to devolve to a thing where I assumed most of the workload while the more experienced editors scaled back their involvement with the project, per tradition. Oh well. When one door closes, another one opens. I try to remember [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Lofi_Gurl#En.wn this conversation] when I feel shitty regarding my contributions to this project. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:20, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::I've still got one fresh and one fresh-ish (thanks to you know who) article pending review if you get inspired to try to do something. The most recent one has some pretty unique original reporting in my opinion. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:20, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have nothing left to give this project, unfortunately. Those messages that admin left us, then bailing on the project completely... Lets just say that if I had a single shit left to give, it is definitely gone now. I might still take a look at the article but I cant promise anything. I'm completely demoralized. Do you contribute at English Wikipedia and/or Wikiquote? Thats where you will usually find me moving forward. Let me know if I can be of any assistance on those projects. :::RIP Wikinews, let the record show I believed in you up until the end. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:35, 4 April 2026 (UTC) ::::Yes, I'm a long time contributor to other wiki projects, in fact I'm seen you editing some metal pages that are on my watchlist! I was asked to come on here last year to see if I could do anything to make it start to function, but you saw how that went. Anyway it's up to you if you want to review those articles, I'm not expecting anything. I think there are other things going on here. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 00:17, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :::::Hell yeah! I have made substantial contributions to various extreme metal-related topics on enwp that I am immensely proud of. If you ever need help in regards to improving those articles, you can always drop a message on my talk page over there. I have also been creating articles for niche subgenres of jazz over there. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:11, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::::::You might get a kick out of reading [[Experimental vocalists perform at Downtown Music Gallery]] before it gets deleted... [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:32, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Interested? == I created a news wiki on Fandom, i have one contributor so far. Please let me know it could use your help! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:15, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:16, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :Sure, why not. I created an account and tried to create a discussion post, but it says I have to have an account for four days before I can contribute. Here's the story I was trying to share: [https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/atlanta-gucci-mane-kidnapped-robbed-dallas-pooh-shiesty-big30/] [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:24, 4 April 2026 (UTC) ::OK cool, could you please create a userpage like on Wikinews? Also, I don't know what that glitch could be on the article creation? For now, I will start the article if you're ok with that? Thanks a million! @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:39, 4 April 2026 (UTC) ::On my end it says you have not registered (joined). Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:42, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :::Unlike Wikinews Fandom needs you to have a email address. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:05, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/Gucci_Mane_kidnapped,_robbed_at_gunpoint_in_Dallas ::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:20, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :::I confirmed my email address so I don't know why it won't let me. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:34, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::::https://www.fandom.com/ try again @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:39, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Supreme Court of Finland makes crimes against humanity convictions in landmark ruling]] (April 6) == Hi, all, I am sending this message to all contributors to the article. News is over a week old but I am publishing. The headline could be better but there is so much controversy about how to put it properly that I am content with the current revision. Overall as a piece of feedback, it is necessary to be more factual and as much as possible insert facts rather than qualitative characterizations. I believe this has substantially improved in the last few days as the article has been revised. Thank you. I have read the talk page and I believe the concerns there have been satisfactorily addressed in the recent edits and in the resulting current revision. Copyright check passed flagging only the quote(s) included in the text. '''I am recommending to add a sentence about expected consequence (fine, jail time) or if it is unknown then, when is this expected to be determined. If you could please make this change within 24 hours, then it could be sighted and be included in the report.''' Thanks a lot. ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:33, 6 April 2026 (UTC) kkq1c6lt509bi9do5lqx95183srhefy 0 3012338 5005336 4878296 2026-04-06T08:29:26Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove problematic paragraph. Update correction statement. See discussion: [[Talk:Nuclear negotiations between US and Iran commence in Muscat, Oman#Previously identified plagiarism not all addressed]] 5005336 wikitext text/x-wiki {{correction|date=April 6, 2026|explanation=The article was published with plagiarised content in the third sentence of paragraph four and in the first half of paragraph five; these have been reworded. A separate paragraph containing detailed uranium enrichment figures has been removed as it included plagiarised material and content that was not directly relevant to the reported event.}} {{date|April 20, 2025}} <!--leave this as it is--> {{Template:Iran}} On Saturday, April 12, the first round of talks between an {{w|Iran|Iranian}} delegation led by {{w|Foreign Minister}} {{w|Abbas Araghchi}} and an {{w|U.S.A.|American}} delegation led by {{w|U.S. Special Envoy}} to {{w|West Asia}} {{w|Steve Witkoff}} took place in {{w|Muscat}}, capital of {{w|Oman}}, with the delegations sitting in two separate halls for two and a half hours as the Omani Foreign Minister {{w|Badr bin Hamad Al Busaidi}} passed written notes as the chosen method of communication during the indirect talks. The Iranian foreign minister said that “about four rounds of exchanges of messages” between the two delegations took place. On Wednesday, Iran announced that the next round of talks with the USA - scheduled for April 19 - would be held in {{w|Rome}}. {{w|US-Iran talks|The talks}} concern {{w|Iranian nuclear programme}} and {{w|United States sanctions against Iran|American sanctions against Iran}} and are a direct consequence of the decision by the {{w|USA President}} {{w|Donald Trump}} during his first term to unilaterally {{w|United States withdrawal from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action|withdraw}} in 2018 from {{w|The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action}} (JCPOA; Persian: برنامه جامع اقدام مشترک, romanized: barnāmeye jāme'e eqdāme moshtarak (برجام, BARJAM)) [also known as the Iran nuclear deal or Iran deal] - the earlier agreement to limit the Iranian nuclear program in return for sanctions relief and other provisions that was finalized in Vienna on July 14, 2015, between Iran and the {{w|P5+1}} (the five {{w|Permanent members of the United Nations Security Council|permanent members of the United Nations S.C.}}—{{w|China}}, {{w|France}}, {{w|Russia}}, the {{w|U.K.}}, {{w|U.S.}}—plus {{w|Germany}}) together with the {{w|European Union}}. Hours before the talks were due to begin, Trump told reporters on board {{w|Air Force One}} that he wants Iran “to be a wonderful, great, happy country. But they can’t have a {{w|nuclear weapon}}.” Witkoff had emphasised that he had instructions to resolve the "differences through dialogue and diplomacy, if that is possible". Before the discussions started, Araghchi had said that his country would like a "fair agreement". {{w|Iranian President}} {{w|Masoud Pezeshkian}} said his country is not seeking war, nor a nuclear bomb. Representatives of both countries, noting that the negotiations were "constructive", stated that they will continue in a meeting next week, April 19. While the location has been changed to Rome for the second round of talks, they will continue to take place under Omani intermediation. == Sources == <!--Use at least two independent sources.--> *{{source |url = https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/4/16/iran-confirms-next-round-of-nuclear-talks-with-us-set-for-rome-on-saturday |title = Iran confirms next round of nuclear talks with US set for Rome on Saturday |author = |pub = Al Jazeera |date = April 16, 2025 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-13/us-iran-nuclear-talk-in-oman/105170642 |title = US and Iran hold 'positive and productive' talks over future of Tehran nuclear program |author = Matthew Doran |pub = ABC |date = April 13, 2025 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/511778/Oman-talks-remain-indirect-exposing-Trump-s-propaganda-attempt |title = Oman talks remain indirect, exposing Trump’s propaganda attempt |author = |pub = Tehran Times |date = April 13, 2025 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/4/12/iran-us-talks-in-oman-live-delegations-to-hold-nuclear-discussions |title = Iran-US talks in Oman updates: Discussions to continue next week – Tehran |author = Virginia Pietromarchi |pub = Al Jazeera |date = April 13, 2025 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/511776/Iran-says-no-direct-talks-while-threats-persist-US-discussions |title = Iran says no direct talks while threats persist; US discussions ‘positive so far’ |author = |pub = Tehran Times |date = April 13, 2025 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g2eggzvjgo |title = US and Iran hold 'constructive' first round of nuclear talks |author = Lyse Doucet, Barbara Tasch |pub = BBC |date = April 12, 2025 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.iaea.org/sites/default/files/25/03/gov2025-8.pdf |title = Verification and monitoring in the Islamic Republic of Iran in light of United Nations Security Council resolution 2231 (2015) |author = Director General |pub = IAEA |date = February 26, 2025 |archiveurl = }} [[Category:Oman]] [[Category:Iran]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:Nuclear proliferation]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] {{Publish}}{{archived}}[[Category:Archived by Gryllida]] 2l1x7g3xepgiy557ixpr1dwj1r3zmaz 5005337 5005336 2026-04-06T08:31:22Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Changed protection settings for "[[Nuclear negotiations between US and Iran commence in Muscat, Oman]]": Minimal protection so that a non-admin reviewer can sight, edit, or revert recent edits in relation to the correction statement and removal of third paragraph. ([Edit=Allow only autoconfirmed users] (indefinite) [Move=Allow only autoconfirmed users] (indefinite)) 5005336 wikitext text/x-wiki {{correction|date=April 6, 2026|explanation=The article was published with plagiarised content in the third sentence of paragraph four and in the first half of paragraph five; these have been reworded. A separate paragraph containing detailed uranium enrichment figures has been removed as it included plagiarised material and content that was not directly relevant to the reported event.}} {{date|April 20, 2025}} <!--leave this as it is--> {{Template:Iran}} On Saturday, April 12, the first round of talks between an {{w|Iran|Iranian}} delegation led by {{w|Foreign Minister}} {{w|Abbas Araghchi}} and an {{w|U.S.A.|American}} delegation led by {{w|U.S. Special Envoy}} to {{w|West Asia}} {{w|Steve Witkoff}} took place in {{w|Muscat}}, capital of {{w|Oman}}, with the delegations sitting in two separate halls for two and a half hours as the Omani Foreign Minister {{w|Badr bin Hamad Al Busaidi}} passed written notes as the chosen method of communication during the indirect talks. The Iranian foreign minister said that “about four rounds of exchanges of messages” between the two delegations took place. On Wednesday, Iran announced that the next round of talks with the USA - scheduled for April 19 - would be held in {{w|Rome}}. {{w|US-Iran talks|The talks}} concern {{w|Iranian nuclear programme}} and {{w|United States sanctions against Iran|American sanctions against Iran}} and are a direct consequence of the decision by the {{w|USA President}} {{w|Donald Trump}} during his first term to unilaterally {{w|United States withdrawal from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action|withdraw}} in 2018 from {{w|The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action}} (JCPOA; Persian: برنامه جامع اقدام مشترک, romanized: barnāmeye jāme'e eqdāme moshtarak (برجام, BARJAM)) [also known as the Iran nuclear deal or Iran deal] - the earlier agreement to limit the Iranian nuclear program in return for sanctions relief and other provisions that was finalized in Vienna on July 14, 2015, between Iran and the {{w|P5+1}} (the five {{w|Permanent members of the United Nations Security Council|permanent members of the United Nations S.C.}}—{{w|China}}, {{w|France}}, {{w|Russia}}, the {{w|U.K.}}, {{w|U.S.}}—plus {{w|Germany}}) together with the {{w|European Union}}. Hours before the talks were due to begin, Trump told reporters on board {{w|Air Force One}} that he wants Iran “to be a wonderful, great, happy country. But they can’t have a {{w|nuclear weapon}}.” Witkoff had emphasised that he had instructions to resolve the "differences through dialogue and diplomacy, if that is possible". Before the discussions started, Araghchi had said that his country would like a "fair agreement". {{w|Iranian President}} {{w|Masoud Pezeshkian}} said his country is not seeking war, nor a nuclear bomb. Representatives of both countries, noting that the negotiations were "constructive", stated that they will continue in a meeting next week, April 19. While the location has been changed to Rome for the second round of talks, they will continue to take place under Omani intermediation. == Sources == <!--Use at least two independent sources.--> *{{source |url = https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/4/16/iran-confirms-next-round-of-nuclear-talks-with-us-set-for-rome-on-saturday |title = Iran confirms next round of nuclear talks with US set for Rome on Saturday |author = |pub = Al Jazeera |date = April 16, 2025 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-13/us-iran-nuclear-talk-in-oman/105170642 |title = US and Iran hold 'positive and productive' talks over future of Tehran nuclear program |author = Matthew Doran |pub = ABC |date = April 13, 2025 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/511778/Oman-talks-remain-indirect-exposing-Trump-s-propaganda-attempt |title = Oman talks remain indirect, exposing Trump’s propaganda attempt |author = |pub = Tehran Times |date = April 13, 2025 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/4/12/iran-us-talks-in-oman-live-delegations-to-hold-nuclear-discussions |title = Iran-US talks in Oman updates: Discussions to continue next week – Tehran |author = Virginia Pietromarchi |pub = Al Jazeera |date = April 13, 2025 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/511776/Iran-says-no-direct-talks-while-threats-persist-US-discussions |title = Iran says no direct talks while threats persist; US discussions ‘positive so far’ |author = |pub = Tehran Times |date = April 13, 2025 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g2eggzvjgo |title = US and Iran hold 'constructive' first round of nuclear talks |author = Lyse Doucet, Barbara Tasch |pub = BBC |date = April 12, 2025 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.iaea.org/sites/default/files/25/03/gov2025-8.pdf |title = Verification and monitoring in the Islamic Republic of Iran in light of United Nations Security Council resolution 2231 (2015) |author = Director General |pub = IAEA |date = February 26, 2025 |archiveurl = }} [[Category:Oman]] [[Category:Iran]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:Nuclear proliferation]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] {{Publish}}{{archived}}[[Category:Archived by Gryllida]] 2l1x7g3xepgiy557ixpr1dwj1r3zmaz 3 3012640 5005054 4850073 2026-04-05T12:09:53Z Ternarius 359942 Ternarius moved page [[User talk:TheNorthCyril]] to [[User talk:Shankaga]]: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/TheNorthCyril|TheNorthCyril]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/Shankaga|Shankaga]]" 4850073 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=TheNorthCyril}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 08:09, 16 April 2025 (UTC) 6h06pjst5wrmamqvn6cr85fsl8k6om2 1 3012813 5005338 4887581 2026-04-06T08:31:59Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* Previously identified plagiarism not all addressed */ reply ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5005338 wikitext text/x-wiki == Copy and pasted content == This article appears to have entire statements copied and pasted from [https://www.aol.com/iran-says-wants-fair-agreement-113238669.html this article]. Unfortunately, [[WN:Copyright|Wikinews can't accept that]]. Everything you submit to our site must be your own work. I have moved the article back to the developing queue for further development. Please see [https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikinews&oldid=4850732&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1 this page] for exact details. Direct quotes are okay to keep. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:05, 18 April 2025 (UTC) == Review of revision 4850979 [Passed] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=4850979|copyright=pass|newsworthy=pass|verifiable=pass|npov=pass|style=pass|reviewer=Gryllida|comments=I am accepting the "numbers approximated in tonne units, instead of original kg units, for readability" note in article for now, as well as short dashes in last sentence of first paragraph. There are no known to me style guides which say no to these items. If must, the article may be revised within 24 hours. Thank you for the comprehensive report. Hope to see the April 19 update very soon.|time=10:09, 20 April 2025 (UTC)}} == Previously identified plagiarism not all addressed == {{editprotected}} There is still an unacceptable amount of plagiarized content in the published version of this article. Since it is now edit protected, only an administrator can remove the plagiarism and issue a correction. The following statements must be addressed[https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikinews&oldid=4853305&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1]: * "...of the 2015 deal, Iran agreed to.." * "...up to 3.67% purity for the next 15 years..." * "... IAEA nuclear watchdog reported that..." * "...that he had instructions to resolve the..." * "Araghchi had said ahead of the discussions that his country wanted a "fair agreement"" (Copied verbatim from [https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g2eggzvjgo the BBC]) As with [[Explosion in Iran's largest port, Shahid Rajaee, heard 50 km away, leaves dozens killed, thousands injured|a previous article published with copyright violations]], I propose the following correction statement be posted after the plagiarism is removed: <blockquote>This article previously included copyrighted material copied from a source. The content has been removed. Wikinews regrets the oversight.</blockquote> —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 20:48, 12 May 2025 (UTC) :Note: once an article is edit-protected, only administrators can make and sight changes. To remove plagiarism from such pages promptly, the administrator making the edit should also self-sight the change. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC) ::i am happy to self sight after a reviewer notes on the talk page that the edit is ok. ugly approach but at least it would mean the edit is actually checked by another reviewer before being sighted. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:26, 16 May 2025 (UTC) {{outdent|2}}The third paragraph (beginning "According to the provisions of the 2015 deal...") presents several serious problems: * Plagiarism / close paraphrasing: The phrase "of uranium enriched up to" is repeated multiple times, verbatim from the IAEA report. * Original analysis: The note "[numbers approximated in tonne units, instead of original kg units, for readability]" introduces unsourced interpretation, which violates [[WN:NPOV]] and [[WN:OR]]. * Unsupported claim: The sentence "On January 5, 2020, Iran declared..." is not supported by any of the cited sources (though it is verifiable elsewhere). * Lack of news value: The detailed uranium enrichment figures are highly technical and not covered in any of the six cited journalistic sources. They add little to the story and may mislead readers by overemphasizing technical minutiae. Any key facts from this paragraph (e.g., enrichment caps under the JCPOA) are already addressed elsewhere in the article. Therefore, removing it would not remove any key facts. However, the article is archived, and per [[WN:ARCHIVE]], substantive content edits are not permitted after archival. Removing or significantly rewriting this paragraph would clearly fall under content modification and is therefore not allowed without administrative consensus. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] acknowledged the article has issues but declined to act, instead removing edit protection and requesting someone else fix the article. This has significantly disrupted the project’s workflow by placing non-admins in an untenable position: either violate archive policy by editing content, or leave known policy violations in place. This situation could have been avoided had the paragraph been properly reviewed and addressed prior to publication. I’m willing to help fix this, but an administrator needs to either (a) initiate and implement a consensus-based correction or (b) provide a clear rationale for leaving the paragraph unchanged despite the outlined problems. I request that another admin review the situation and take appropriate action. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:45, 6 June 2025 (UTC) :I'm going to try to work on this.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:08, 15 October 2025 (UTC) ::Paragraph 3: Man, that uranium stuff is super crufty for a new article. Lemme think on this for a bit.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:15, 15 October 2025 (UTC) : I have removed the third paragraph entirely, to address the concerns above. I have also updated the correction statement. I have not self-sighted these changes, but may if another reviewer does not. I have down-graded page protection so that a non-admin reviewer can sight, edit, or revert those changes.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 08:31, 6 April 2026 (UTC) == Template:Develop mistakenly added == {{tl|editprotected}} In a recent edit[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Nuclear_negotiations_between_US_and_Iran_commence_in_Muscat,_Oman&diff=prev&oldid=4857198] the <nowiki>{{Develop}}</nowiki> template was added to the article, which is already published and therefore should not have the template. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:37, 13 May 2025 (UTC) :Develop tag needs to go!!! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:37, 13 May 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], still says developing... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 15:01, 14 May 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] not developing anymore. Thanks. Is it broken or something???? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:19, 16 May 2025 (UTC) ::removed develop tag. still, someone will need to sight the edit for 'add correction and revise content'. a reviewer can tag me saying it's ok, then i will sight it as currently only a sysop can sight, but i don't want to self sight without someone else checking the edit. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:25, 16 May 2025 (UTC) :::I had hoped another reviewer or admin might step in to sight these changes, to avoid this becoming a back-and-forth between [[User:Gryllida]] and myself. The remaining flagged text appears limited to formal titles and common-use phrases, as shown by the [https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikinews&oldid=4857952&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1 Earwig results]. These do not constitute plagiarism. :::In the case of plagiarism, once an administrator has rechecked the revision, it should be sighted without delay. Leaving such corrections unsighted unnecessarily extends public exposure to plagiarized content. While the project itself faces reputational harm, the original contributor and the reviewer who published the material may also face legal risk. Promptly sighting corrections is a basic editorial responsibility, and a necessary step to protect all parties involved. Even self-sighting and asking for a second opinion after-the-fact is better. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:32, 23 May 2025 (UTC) ::::ok [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:30, 24 May 2025 (UTC) 7jpblarea9a8qgs7px2nsgd2a6tgey6 5005339 5005338 2026-04-06T08:33:50Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* Previously identified plagiarism not all addressed */ close edit request. Add flag 5005339 wikitext text/x-wiki == Copy and pasted content == This article appears to have entire statements copied and pasted from [https://www.aol.com/iran-says-wants-fair-agreement-113238669.html this article]. Unfortunately, [[WN:Copyright|Wikinews can't accept that]]. Everything you submit to our site must be your own work. I have moved the article back to the developing queue for further development. Please see [https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikinews&oldid=4850732&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1 this page] for exact details. Direct quotes are okay to keep. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:05, 18 April 2025 (UTC) == Review of revision 4850979 [Passed] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=4850979|copyright=pass|newsworthy=pass|verifiable=pass|npov=pass|style=pass|reviewer=Gryllida|comments=I am accepting the "numbers approximated in tonne units, instead of original kg units, for readability" note in article for now, as well as short dashes in last sentence of first paragraph. There are no known to me style guides which say no to these items. If must, the article may be revised within 24 hours. Thank you for the comprehensive report. Hope to see the April 19 update very soon.|time=10:09, 20 April 2025 (UTC)}} == Previously identified plagiarism not all addressed == {{flag}} : For flag, see [[#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260406083100-Michael.C.Wright-20250606154500|new comment below]]. {{tl|editprotected}} There is still an unacceptable amount of plagiarized content in the published version of this article. Since it is now edit protected, only an administrator can remove the plagiarism and issue a correction. The following statements must be addressed[https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikinews&oldid=4853305&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1]: * "...of the 2015 deal, Iran agreed to.." * "...up to 3.67% purity for the next 15 years..." * "... IAEA nuclear watchdog reported that..." * "...that he had instructions to resolve the..." * "Araghchi had said ahead of the discussions that his country wanted a "fair agreement"" (Copied verbatim from [https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g2eggzvjgo the BBC]) As with [[Explosion in Iran's largest port, Shahid Rajaee, heard 50 km away, leaves dozens killed, thousands injured|a previous article published with copyright violations]], I propose the following correction statement be posted after the plagiarism is removed: <blockquote>This article previously included copyrighted material copied from a source. The content has been removed. Wikinews regrets the oversight.</blockquote> —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 20:48, 12 May 2025 (UTC) :Note: once an article is edit-protected, only administrators can make and sight changes. To remove plagiarism from such pages promptly, the administrator making the edit should also self-sight the change. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC) ::i am happy to self sight after a reviewer notes on the talk page that the edit is ok. ugly approach but at least it would mean the edit is actually checked by another reviewer before being sighted. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:26, 16 May 2025 (UTC) {{outdent|2}}The third paragraph (beginning "According to the provisions of the 2015 deal...") presents several serious problems: * Plagiarism / close paraphrasing: The phrase "of uranium enriched up to" is repeated multiple times, verbatim from the IAEA report. * Original analysis: The note "[numbers approximated in tonne units, instead of original kg units, for readability]" introduces unsourced interpretation, which violates [[WN:NPOV]] and [[WN:OR]]. * Unsupported claim: The sentence "On January 5, 2020, Iran declared..." is not supported by any of the cited sources (though it is verifiable elsewhere). * Lack of news value: The detailed uranium enrichment figures are highly technical and not covered in any of the six cited journalistic sources. They add little to the story and may mislead readers by overemphasizing technical minutiae. Any key facts from this paragraph (e.g., enrichment caps under the JCPOA) are already addressed elsewhere in the article. Therefore, removing it would not remove any key facts. However, the article is archived, and per [[WN:ARCHIVE]], substantive content edits are not permitted after archival. Removing or significantly rewriting this paragraph would clearly fall under content modification and is therefore not allowed without administrative consensus. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] acknowledged the article has issues but declined to act, instead removing edit protection and requesting someone else fix the article. This has significantly disrupted the project’s workflow by placing non-admins in an untenable position: either violate archive policy by editing content, or leave known policy violations in place. This situation could have been avoided had the paragraph been properly reviewed and addressed prior to publication. I’m willing to help fix this, but an administrator needs to either (a) initiate and implement a consensus-based correction or (b) provide a clear rationale for leaving the paragraph unchanged despite the outlined problems. I request that another admin review the situation and take appropriate action. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:45, 6 June 2025 (UTC) :I'm going to try to work on this.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:08, 15 October 2025 (UTC) ::Paragraph 3: Man, that uranium stuff is super crufty for a new article. Lemme think on this for a bit.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:15, 15 October 2025 (UTC) : I have removed the third paragraph entirely, to address the concerns above. I have also updated the correction statement. I have not self-sighted these changes, but may if another reviewer does not. I have down-graded page protection so that a non-admin reviewer can sight, edit, or revert those changes.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 08:31, 6 April 2026 (UTC) == Template:Develop mistakenly added == {{tl|editprotected}} In a recent edit[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Nuclear_negotiations_between_US_and_Iran_commence_in_Muscat,_Oman&diff=prev&oldid=4857198] the <nowiki>{{Develop}}</nowiki> template was added to the article, which is already published and therefore should not have the template. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:37, 13 May 2025 (UTC) :Develop tag needs to go!!! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:37, 13 May 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], still says developing... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 15:01, 14 May 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] not developing anymore. Thanks. Is it broken or something???? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:19, 16 May 2025 (UTC) ::removed develop tag. still, someone will need to sight the edit for 'add correction and revise content'. a reviewer can tag me saying it's ok, then i will sight it as currently only a sysop can sight, but i don't want to self sight without someone else checking the edit. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:25, 16 May 2025 (UTC) :::I had hoped another reviewer or admin might step in to sight these changes, to avoid this becoming a back-and-forth between [[User:Gryllida]] and myself. The remaining flagged text appears limited to formal titles and common-use phrases, as shown by the [https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikinews&oldid=4857952&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1 Earwig results]. These do not constitute plagiarism. :::In the case of plagiarism, once an administrator has rechecked the revision, it should be sighted without delay. Leaving such corrections unsighted unnecessarily extends public exposure to plagiarized content. While the project itself faces reputational harm, the original contributor and the reviewer who published the material may also face legal risk. Promptly sighting corrections is a basic editorial responsibility, and a necessary step to protect all parties involved. Even self-sighting and asking for a second opinion after-the-fact is better. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:32, 23 May 2025 (UTC) ::::ok [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:30, 24 May 2025 (UTC) q3m2itfj2p13pg89gqip2z0ri4qsp8b 5005341 5005339 2026-04-06T08:48:27Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* Previously identified plagiarism not all addressed */ reply ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5005341 wikitext text/x-wiki == Copy and pasted content == This article appears to have entire statements copied and pasted from [https://www.aol.com/iran-says-wants-fair-agreement-113238669.html this article]. Unfortunately, [[WN:Copyright|Wikinews can't accept that]]. Everything you submit to our site must be your own work. I have moved the article back to the developing queue for further development. Please see [https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikinews&oldid=4850732&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1 this page] for exact details. Direct quotes are okay to keep. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:05, 18 April 2025 (UTC) == Review of revision 4850979 [Passed] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=4850979|copyright=pass|newsworthy=pass|verifiable=pass|npov=pass|style=pass|reviewer=Gryllida|comments=I am accepting the "numbers approximated in tonne units, instead of original kg units, for readability" note in article for now, as well as short dashes in last sentence of first paragraph. There are no known to me style guides which say no to these items. If must, the article may be revised within 24 hours. Thank you for the comprehensive report. Hope to see the April 19 update very soon.|time=10:09, 20 April 2025 (UTC)}} == Previously identified plagiarism not all addressed == {{flag}} : For flag, see [[#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260406083100-Michael.C.Wright-20250606154500|new comment below]]. {{tl|editprotected}} There is still an unacceptable amount of plagiarized content in the published version of this article. Since it is now edit protected, only an administrator can remove the plagiarism and issue a correction. The following statements must be addressed[https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikinews&oldid=4853305&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1]: * "...of the 2015 deal, Iran agreed to.." * "...up to 3.67% purity for the next 15 years..." * "... IAEA nuclear watchdog reported that..." * "...that he had instructions to resolve the..." * "Araghchi had said ahead of the discussions that his country wanted a "fair agreement"" (Copied verbatim from [https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g2eggzvjgo the BBC]) As with [[Explosion in Iran's largest port, Shahid Rajaee, heard 50 km away, leaves dozens killed, thousands injured|a previous article published with copyright violations]], I propose the following correction statement be posted after the plagiarism is removed: <blockquote>This article previously included copyrighted material copied from a source. The content has been removed. Wikinews regrets the oversight.</blockquote> —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 20:48, 12 May 2025 (UTC) :Note: once an article is edit-protected, only administrators can make and sight changes. To remove plagiarism from such pages promptly, the administrator making the edit should also self-sight the change. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC) ::i am happy to self sight after a reviewer notes on the talk page that the edit is ok. ugly approach but at least it would mean the edit is actually checked by another reviewer before being sighted. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:26, 16 May 2025 (UTC) {{outdent|2}}The third paragraph (beginning "According to the provisions of the 2015 deal...") presents several serious problems: * Plagiarism / close paraphrasing: The phrase "of uranium enriched up to" is repeated multiple times, verbatim from the IAEA report. * Original analysis: The note "[numbers approximated in tonne units, instead of original kg units, for readability]" introduces unsourced interpretation, which violates [[WN:NPOV]] and [[WN:OR]]. * Unsupported claim: The sentence "On January 5, 2020, Iran declared..." is not supported by any of the cited sources (though it is verifiable elsewhere). * Lack of news value: The detailed uranium enrichment figures are highly technical and not covered in any of the six cited journalistic sources. They add little to the story and may mislead readers by overemphasizing technical minutiae. Any key facts from this paragraph (e.g., enrichment caps under the JCPOA) are already addressed elsewhere in the article. Therefore, removing it would not remove any key facts. However, the article is archived, and per [[WN:ARCHIVE]], substantive content edits are not permitted after archival. Removing or significantly rewriting this paragraph would clearly fall under content modification and is therefore not allowed without administrative consensus. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] acknowledged the article has issues but declined to act, instead removing edit protection and requesting someone else fix the article. This has significantly disrupted the project’s workflow by placing non-admins in an untenable position: either violate archive policy by editing content, or leave known policy violations in place. This situation could have been avoided had the paragraph been properly reviewed and addressed prior to publication. I’m willing to help fix this, but an administrator needs to either (a) initiate and implement a consensus-based correction or (b) provide a clear rationale for leaving the paragraph unchanged despite the outlined problems. I request that another admin review the situation and take appropriate action. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:45, 6 June 2025 (UTC) :I'm going to try to work on this.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:08, 15 October 2025 (UTC) ::Paragraph 3: Man, that uranium stuff is super crufty for a new article. Lemme think on this for a bit.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:15, 15 October 2025 (UTC) : I have removed the third paragraph entirely, to address the concerns above. I have also updated the correction statement. I have not self-sighted these changes, but may if another reviewer does not. I have down-graded page protection so that a non-admin reviewer can sight, edit, or revert those changes.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 08:31, 6 April 2026 (UTC) : The extent of the issues in this article raises broader concerns. Plagiarism was identified prior to publication, as early as April 18, 2025, but was not fully resolved for nearly a year, indicating a breakdown in both the development and review processes. Delays of this length—particularly where plagiarism is involved—are not acceptable for a news organization. Given the project’s [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure]], it is also important that unresolved issues of this nature are not left in the final, read-only record.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 08:48, 6 April 2026 (UTC) == Template:Develop mistakenly added == {{tl|editprotected}} In a recent edit[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Nuclear_negotiations_between_US_and_Iran_commence_in_Muscat,_Oman&diff=prev&oldid=4857198] the <nowiki>{{Develop}}</nowiki> template was added to the article, which is already published and therefore should not have the template. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:37, 13 May 2025 (UTC) :Develop tag needs to go!!! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:37, 13 May 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], still says developing... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 15:01, 14 May 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] not developing anymore. Thanks. Is it broken or something???? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:19, 16 May 2025 (UTC) ::removed develop tag. still, someone will need to sight the edit for 'add correction and revise content'. a reviewer can tag me saying it's ok, then i will sight it as currently only a sysop can sight, but i don't want to self sight without someone else checking the edit. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:25, 16 May 2025 (UTC) :::I had hoped another reviewer or admin might step in to sight these changes, to avoid this becoming a back-and-forth between [[User:Gryllida]] and myself. The remaining flagged text appears limited to formal titles and common-use phrases, as shown by the [https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikinews&oldid=4857952&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1 Earwig results]. These do not constitute plagiarism. :::In the case of plagiarism, once an administrator has rechecked the revision, it should be sighted without delay. Leaving such corrections unsighted unnecessarily extends public exposure to plagiarized content. While the project itself faces reputational harm, the original contributor and the reviewer who published the material may also face legal risk. Promptly sighting corrections is a basic editorial responsibility, and a necessary step to protect all parties involved. Even self-sighting and asking for a second opinion after-the-fact is better. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:32, 23 May 2025 (UTC) ::::ok [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:30, 24 May 2025 (UTC) qi7a1klsyngket3dtc16edws9409g2f 5 3048959 5005123 5004794 2026-04-05T16:40:37Z NotAracham 2880418 /* Clarification: WM NYC and Miraheze joint bid and requests on Miraheze */ new section 5005123 wikitext text/x-wiki <center> <big> Please share your opinion regarding the migration on Meta at [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. </big> </center> = 1. Name and geographical location of new hosting. = I have no idea about this, please advise. How can this be done when half of users have slow internet and are geographically dispersed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :A Meta page has been created for discussion about the migration. Please share your votes and comments there. [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:57, 31 March 2026 (UTC) === Miraheze === :Maybe we could consider migrating to https://miraheze.org/. Their Meta page is here: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Meta. :They provide free hosting, although I am not sure whether we would need to purchase our own domain name. They also do not run advertisements and operate entirely on donations. :However, a major clarification is required: If Wikinews is closed, will the WMF also relinquish copyright to the name 'Wikinews' and its logo? If not, I'm not sure how we could proceed. Perhaps someone with legal knowledge, or someone from the WMF, could advise on this? -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:13, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::Is it easy to install our own mediawiki extensions there. Do they provide shell access. The name question is in section 5 below. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:52, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, almost all MediaWiki extensions are available there. There are also users with strong MediaWiki knowledge who can help us move forward technically. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: "almost all MediaWiki extensions" is an exaggeration. But it is true that Miraheze is significantly more willing to install new extensions than Wikimedia is: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Extensions is an incomplete list. Miraheze, while they won't provide you shell access, will let you self-service many things that require shell access on Wikimedia, such as config changes - they have a fairly flexible https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ManageWiki interface. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 03:53, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::::True. What I mean is at least enough to support Wikinews or such that Wikinews is going to need. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:18, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Miraheze might be our last good option just saying. @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:55, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Also, everyone, the WMF board has '''not yet''' made a final decision, and the current community opinion is mostly in our favor, so please don't give up participating in various discussions on metawiki. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 01:02, 1 December 2025 (UTC) ::::They will close WikiNews tomorrow. All pages will be read-only. I can register the wiki at https://wikinews.miraheze.org, if you would like. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:24, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::::To reiterate NotAracham’s comment in this thread, while Miraheze is very willing to provide hosting to Wikinews, we ask that the actual wiki request be submitted by a bureaucrat (or representative of WikiNYC if the WN community choses to pursue an arrangement with them). With all due respect, for the sake of clarify and not making things more confusing for the Wikinews community, we won’t be accepting one-off requests by users that don’t have the backing of the community’s consensus. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 21:26, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::I personally oppose the usage of Miraheze because it contains trackers that are hard for users to disable. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 16:04, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]], what are they tracking and how does this work? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::I forget the exact details because I wrote that message nearly 5 months ago, but I think that it's some sort of analytics ping that you need to block at the browser or DNS level. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 12:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::::We collect minimal aggregate tracking data through cookies for cloudflare + matomo analytics as well as session persistence, @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] would be better positioned to answer this. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy Privacy Policy] also covers our 'when and how' for usage of this data. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::If all other measures fail... we might have to try [[w:Fandom (website)|Fandom]]. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:59, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], Wikimedia is hosted in the US due to favorable freedom of speech and copyright laws. A [[w:Content delivery network]] can improve performance around the world, though that doesn't accelerate dynamic content served to users who are logged in. See [[m:Wikimedia servers]] for example.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764267938397:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:25, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> Hi folks, this is NotAracham, Director of Trust & Safety at Miraheze. We've reviewed internally and are confident that we will be able to offer hosting (from both a policy and technical standpoint) should you choose to select us once things are worked out with the WMF. I and my colleagues are happy to answer any questions the WikiNews community might have towards reaching a decision. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :You are a life saver thank you @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:16, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I think we should wait until the final decision of the Board, and if it ultimately is about closing, then I have no objection to migrate. This would be the best second possibility after Wikinews is not getting closed. Thank you for your help. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 19:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Agreed, Miraheze can save us for backup plan @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:26, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I'm an Infrastructure engineer for Miraheze and am also watching this page. You can also find me on Libera.Chat (in both #wikinews and #miraheze) or Discord if you have questions. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], it would probably be a good idea to clarify whether you are talking about English Wikinews or all Wikinews language variants. Also note that ruwikinews has on the order of 1000x more articles than most other language editions. Can Miraheze deal with [[:w:en:Russian web brigades]] ?<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764272830948:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 19:47, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::Agreed, we need to focus on English Wikinews. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:59, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Technically, I don't think any of them would be an issue. From a counter vandalism perspective, we would look to how we could support any wiki and make sure you have the tools available that you need. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 20:03, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::I'll defer to my tech colleagues on our technical capacity to host, though the general opinion seems that it would be well within possibility to host the full spectrum of languages if they choose to move to our service. Regarding the counter-vandalism aspect, our service uses Cloudflare (for both default and custom domains) to mitigate DDoS attempts, which has proven unfortunately necessary with some past antagonists. While we have an existing global CVT team to handle the more routine on-wiki trouble, we only have so many members with limited time to offer. It sounds like the Russian wikinews is one of the rare scenarios where it'd be prudent to assign some members of their moderation team [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/CheckUser#Permission delegated local CheckUser]. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 20:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], first let me declare that I don't know for sure how ruwikinews is doing currently. But you should be very careful before assigning CheckUser to anyone involved with Russian projects. The paper bear is certainly interested:<ul><li>[https://fortune.com/europe/2023/04/14/moscow-court-fines-wikipedia-refusing-remove-russia-language-article-invasion-ukraine/ Moscow court fines Wikipedia for refusing to remove a Russian-language article about the invasion of Ukraine]</li><li>[https://www.reuters.com/technology/russia-threatens-fine-wikipedia-if-it-doesnt-delete-false-information-2022-04-05/ Russia threatens to fine Wikipedia if it doesn't delete 'false information']</li><li>[https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/06/23/a89531 Russian Court Fines Wikipedia Operator Nearly $40K Over ‘P***philia Propaganda’]</li></ul>Just don't give CheckUser to the paper bear, as they could use it to prosecute dissenters. As for the current state of ruwikinews, some of the most recent articles:<ul><li>[[:n:ru:Необычный урок патриотизма провёл русский путешественник-экстремал, вернувшийся из Африки]] ([[:n:ru:Категория:Виктор Пинчук (1969)|author]] writing about himself)</li><li>[[:n:ru:В Крыму, расположенном недалеко от района боевых действий, прошла «Ночь искусств»]]: a Chinese Wikimedian, Sheminghui.WU, interviewing that user. Perhaps something is getting lost in translation, because this is the end of the last answer according to Google translate:</li></ul>{{q|1=From my personal observations, the majority of Crimean residents (myself included) are ethnic Russians. Therefore, there has generally always been a negative attitude toward the imposed "Ukrainianism" here.<br/>I'm not familiar with cultural life in eastern Ukraine or in the towns located along the front lines, but here in Crimea, everything is peaceful. Enemy drones are being shot down by professionally trained specialists.<br/>We will win!<br/>Hakuna matata!<br/>No pasaran!|4=Виктор Пинчук|5=[https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%92_%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BC%D1%83,_%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC_%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%BE%D1%82_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%8B%D1%85_%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B9,_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%BB%D0%B0_%C2%AB%D0%9D%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%8C_%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%C2%BB]}}<br/>derp I have to stop looking at this rabbit hole<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764284255586:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 22:57, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::::Ha, absolutely an area one could spend way too much time digging into, and a very fair point to bring up. Local checkuser has not been given out in the history of Miraheze, and would absolutely be a last resort. While it's a thing we'd ''consider'' if proven necessary, any grants here would have a much higher degree of scrutiny than standard cases given the well-documented hostility of the national actor in question. ::::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 23:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::As Russian Wikinews will also be closed, it will also need a new home. I will wait for their contributors to comment whether they want to do migration together and to the same host. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:04, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :::Correction: *may also be closed [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :Thanks @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]]] and @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] for following this page [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] Dear friend, will other language versions of Wikinews, especially ruwn and zhwn which have more views than enwn, can also be hosted? Thank you. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:48, 29 November 2025 (UTC) ::Yes, we are willing to provide hosting for all language flavors of wikinews should their communities choose to move to our service. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], thank you for your notes. :1. Do you have a comment on @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]]'s concern about trackers? :2. Could you confirm that you do not require content obligations in return, such as, censorship of content or necessitating to include your news on our site? :3. What features do you provide for multilingual content? Currently there are different sysops in each language edition of Wikinews, as they are separate wikis. :Apparently, move needs to happen before May 4 and [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard#Board_of_Trustees_Approves_Closure_of_Wikinews after that date content will be left read-only, here]. I asked whether Wikinews trademark can be used. :Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:56, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::4. In Miraheze can users insert Wikimedia Commons images into new pages? In Wikinews it is possible with same syntax as if it was a local image. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, it is possible to both upload local images and use files from Wikimedia Commons. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::This is cool. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:08, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Cc @[[User:Pppery|Pppery]] thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::# I've asked Rhinos to weigh in on trackers, but generally we collect the minimum data required to operate our service. Information collected in this way is used as described in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy our privacy policy] and is not sent/resold to outside parties. If there are more specific concerns to be discussed, I defer to my tech colleague. ::# We do have some limits on what may be hosted on our service, outlined in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy our content policy]. We also (as a non-profit) cannot host content specifically designed to achieve a political outcome, e.g. supporting a specific candidate or specific legislative action. Beyond these two items, we do not impose any further restrictions on your speech nor will we mandate that specific stories be written. However, it should be made clear, we cannot offer any form of legal cover should authored content result in legal action against the authors by a third party. ::# While we do have the Translate extension, the current structure is likely the cleanest way to continue operating. We do support interwiki/interlanguage linking as well, which can ease connection between versions. ::# Regarding licensing and/or permission for continued use of brand/trademark, that's something the WikiNews community will have to work out with the WMF, we do not negotiate in this way on behalf of our hosted projects. ::I think I've answered everything, but let me know if a question was missed. ::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:26, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Miraheze Tech here. To add to what NotAracham has said, we have [[miraheze:Help:How_to_support_multiple_languages_on_my_wiki|a multi-language guide]] which covers some of the options that are possible on Miraheze: ::# Separate wikis connected via interwiki language links. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are connected via interwiki language links by pointing interwiki links to the same wiki. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are synced with the translate extension. ::# Separate wikis connected via wikibase. I am not aware of any wiki that uses this option, but we do have wikibase available with a few hundred wikis that enabled the extension (whether they use it extensively is another story). I believe this option is what Wikinews uses right now. If there is enough interest, I can see if it is possible to replicate the wikinews setup on Miraheze's wikibase install. ::[[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:36, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::As for trackers, wiki bureaucrats can grant the <code>noanalytics</code> right to everyone (<code>*</code>) with ManageWiki, which will exempt all users from our tracking software (Matomo). I tested it on [https://exttest.mirabeta.org/ Miraheze's extension testing wiki] and am no longer seeing Matomo-related requests for both logged-in and anonymous users. ::With that said, this will only happen on the local wiki. If the user clicks on a link to, for example, the Privacy Policy page which is hosted on Miraheze Meta, they will be subject to the tracker again since it is on a different wiki. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 23:17, 30 March 2026 (UTC) Question; would it be possible to mirrow this wiki, so when i make an edit here, it is also automatically made at Miraheze from my account; is it possible to allow users to login using OAuth so that they do not need to register a new account; what testing is required for a custom extension to be installed on site; where is it located geographically. Does it remain free of charge. how does this organization generate income. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:10, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :# Going to consider this question moot as the WMF-hosted service will go read-only in near future. As mentioned elsewhere, we can assist with attributing edits to the MH-equivalent users following migration where there's interest in doing so. :# We utilize CentralAuth as our account infrastructure, users need only one account for any wiki hosted on our platform. Services can verify the MH account through OAuth as well. We do not, however, support OAuth for Wikimedia project accounts on our platform, a Miraheze account will need to be created. :# Custom extensions will need to go through our security review process, and will generally need to demonstrate some form of global usefulness to be considered for approval. :# We are based out of the United States of America and incorporated in the state of Idaho, the majority of our hardware infrastructure is located in the Salt lake City, Utah area. :# We are a 501(c)3 nonprofit charitable organization, we do not and will not charge for our service, the majority of our funds come from individual user donations. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances are public information], as are our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget/2026 annual budgets]. :--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:44, 30 March 2026 (UTC) In my opinion, miraheze is the most viable path forwards for wikinews. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) IMO moving Wikinews to Miraheze is just swapping one centralized authority for another. You're not fixing the problem, you're relocating it. Instead of the Wikimedia Foundation, you end up under Miraheze's policies, infrastructure, and admins. Different host, same dependency. If Wikinews is supposed to be a truly independent, community-driven news platform, then it needs its own infrastructure and governance - not another host that can pull the plug or change the rules whenever it wants. We don't even know if Miraheze can reliably handle a project of this scale (enwikinews only? all active language versions?). What infrastructure do they actually have? What guarantees are there for long-term stability, performance, and uptime? Calling this a solution is just self-deception. [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 06:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :The existing Wikinews community lacks the capability to do better than Miraheze or even come close. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Loyal opposition here. Sorry your project is closing, I hope you perhaps consider my suggestion to transition to a more news-magazine inspired format on whatever your new host is. But I agree with Bawolff. To quote the former administrator of Earth: May I remind you that the alternative, if it can be called that, is total extinction? [[User:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[User talk:Dronebogus|talk]]) 13:12, 2 April 2026 (UTC) No opinion on whether English (and others, except for ru) Wikinews should go to Miraheze, but certainly '''oppose migration of [[:ru:|ru.WN]] to Miraheze'''. Not exactly sure about conditions as of 2026, but the farm was long known to be dominated by English speakers and had zero representation of the Slavs in its establishment. Their staffers botched and failed import of Absurdopedia (the Russian Uncyclopedia), which eventually became self-hosted. <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> had some ugly interactions with Mirahezeans, myself. Meanwhile it generally is a respectable farm and <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> hold specifically {{u|John F. Lewis}}, who made a good job, in respect. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:31, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :Ironic, given the controversies surrounding John (He has a history of abusing positions of trust and got himself office banned from all Wikimedia projects). Regardless, is there another serious offer on the table? Otherwise Miraheze wins by default. Like you've made some comments that imply you might be willing to offer hosting or at least work on this. Are you actually offering to host Wikinews? Does this offer come with strings or financial requirements? Unless other offers materialize with details, it kind of seems like the choice is Miraheze or nothing. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 05:14, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::What would the hardware requirements be for hosting WikiNews? Could the administrators WN provide some more specific information? [[User:Charmeleon69|Charmeleon69]] ([[User talk:Charmeleon69|talk]]) 06:53, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::: Commented [[#hardware|here]] because this isn’t a proper thread. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) = 2. Volunteers willing to pay for new hosting. This can be from charities, Wikimedia Charters, or personal expenses. = I would volunteer towards hosting costs. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :This will not work in my opinion. After all, that's the approach taken for wn-reporters and email, and I think it's safe to say that it hasn't been successful. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 16:32, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::The lowest cost I am aware of would be 25 USD per month, so 300 USD per year. Though it sounds like Miraheze maybe free and I know a few Wikipedians are on their board. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:51, 18 December 2025 (UTC) : If hosting is going to be paid for, I think a new, non-profit organization should be formed, to to handle funding and oversight. If hosting is paid for by one or more individuals who are not organized under a charter or governing structure, it creates obvious risks: lack of accountability, unclear ownership, and potential instability if those individuals step away or disagree. : Forming a new non-profit may be a wise choice even if free hosting is used.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 10:48, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::Based on the [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Public_consultation_about_Wikinews#c-Sj-20260401032800-Victoria-20260330090000 latest developments], it seems that Wikimedia New York City may take on the future stewardship of Wikinews. That would also mean it is managed by an organization and a non-profit. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:27, 3 April 2026 (UTC) = 3. Volunteers willing to do budgeting and acounting: find out how much this will cost. = *I would contribute towards budget efforts .[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) *I might be willing to make a small donation to these efforts, but in terms of time -- I'm not too sure. I intend to take this time to (mostly) step away from most News wiki activities and do a bit of introspection. It's been about 16 years. I want to take a careful look at time/priorities etc.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:45, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:51, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *I suggest opening a donation channel at that time; I can also contribute a spare change. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 06:18, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks Sheminghui [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:59, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *::Do you folks have an NGO yet? If you dont would recommend the USA as the location to be based as fund raising from their is easiest and becoming a 503(c) is not that hard. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:49, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 4. System administration to install software and work around security vulnerabilities = I would contribute towards admin tasks including Linux system administration and MediaWiki [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :Can users use Wikipedia login on an externally hosted wiki? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :: In principle yes you could use OAuth for something like that. One example is at https://mdwiki.org, although in that case they only pre-approve accounts you could configure it differently. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 03:55, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anyway can use OAuth to log onto MDWiki with their Wikipedia user name, but you can only edit a couple of pages (your user page and a request for editing page) until you are granted editing privileges. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:46, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :In response to [[ru:User talk:Alexis Jazz#Hello]]: [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], I have no strong ties to Wikinews. Also no knowledge of ru which seems to be the largest wikinews language. And I've always wondered how a news website in wiki form could realistically work as articles likely go stale before they can get improved through the magic of wiki. From the looks of it, this is still an issue.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>Generally I'm happy to answer some questions, but actually coding for and maintaining a Wikinews successor would be a major undertaking which is not really for me.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764267275161:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::Okay thank you [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]]. What makes improving articles so difficult in wiki? What solution would you suggest? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:00, 29 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], hire some paid editors to write and publish [[w:en:wp:stub|stubs]] for all major news stories throughout the day. That way the site becomes functional as a news source, and the bar to improve a stub is lower than the bar to create an article from scratch. But I don't know who'd be willing to pay for such a thing. Volunteers tend to only write about subjects they care about, and nobody cares about ''everything''. Combined with the presence of a [[w:en:Wikipedia:There is no deadline|deadline]], as news needs to be published before it turns into [[wikt:olds#Noun 2|olds]], it makes a general news wiki very difficult to maintain with just volunteers whose time and interests are limited.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764428567237:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 15:02, 29 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::::Maybe news companies could sponsor these editors, and then copy the finished products for their outlets? [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 15:42, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::::i was thinking a tool could at least help with handling the markup if not picking the news events themselves [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:37, 11 December 2025 (UTC) : <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> can do some Unix, SQL, HTTPd and MediaWiki job. <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> am the technical director of cyclowiki.org for 4 years. IMHO using Wikimedia SULs on a non-Wikimedia site is a poor choice (not only technically, but in other respects too). [[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 09:08, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]], is it possible though? And what issues would it cause? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:38, 11 December 2025 (UTC) :::It is possible. We at MDWiki do it and we are happy with the results. But than our work is fairly integrated into the Wikipedia work. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:48, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :: <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> hereby remind of my four-months-old proposal, although am too busy specifically next several days to do anything of value. Give me a Unix shell or an SQL access and <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> won’t fail you. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 15:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::: Incnis Mrsi is a highly qualified and helpful contributor who has been supporting cyclowiki.org for many years. He's always ready to help in difficult situations, even when many prefer to sit back or remain silent. He's always willing to engage with a wide range of participants and develop any constructive ideas. I think his proposal is worth supporting. [[User:Serebr|Serebr]] ([[User talk:Serebr|talk]]) 03:17, 1 April 2026 (UTC) = 5. Name = No idea if same trademark can be used... [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] as you asked above, FYI there was fork of Wikinews in past, one was called OpenGlobe. If it is same people working on it then I do not mind, any name. For example [[:w:freenode]] moved to [[:w:Libera]] with a name change and successfully moved over 80% of tens thousands users to new site. It would be good to confirm that. Another aspect is in Question 4 whether users will need to register new account. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:54, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::I don't think Miraheze would allow IP's actually Miraheze is a '''wiki farm host'''. Sorry for the excessive pings, @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:58, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fandom_(website) [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:02, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anonymous editing can be enabled or disabled through ManageWiki on Miraheze which is normally open to all crats. ManageWiki is an easy to use extension we built so you can manage some config from on wiki. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::If we move forward with this migration, we will need a new name and logo. ::Any user from here will be able to create an account on the new Wikinews instance on Miraheze. But, there is no automatic way to transfer all existing users with us. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::If Miraheze is chosen, we will work with you guys to ensure you can claim imported edits and have them attributed to a future Miraheze accounts. Of course, you'll need to sign up again. We won't be able to transfer any user preferences or anything from Wikimedia. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: What happens with edits made by users who choose not to join the fork? If they are left as-is, are there processes in place to ensure those usernames are unavailable? For example, If I choose not to join the fork, are all of my current edits still attributed to my username and is that username essentially "taken" on Miraheze so that others can't register my name and claim my edits?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:47, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::::They would show an interwiki link back to the archived wikinews. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 15:22, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::This is correct, while edit history can be 'attributed' to Miraheze accounts created following a migration, we don't have a way to reserve usernames/migrate wikimedia logins automatically - it will require individual registration. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: Have you tried implementing OAuth for wikimedia accounts? [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :We have asked Wikimedia what rules would have to be followed if a migration did take place with regard to trademarks. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you all @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::: Related: the broader Wikimedia community should weigh in on where to redirect Wikinews traffic. This is one of the strongest reasons to try something new at the current domains. I would hope the domain is put to use supporting an active community news effort, wherever it is hosted; historical pages can redirect. Unfortunately all of the news-related forks or comparables I know of also closed for lack of activity... [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) There are tools built into mediawiki ie [[Special:Import]] that allows the entire history from one wiki to be moved to another. Lower on [https://mdwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Gout&action=history&offset=&limit=500 this page] you can see what it looks like. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:44, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 6. Other = A small comment I'd like to make is that most interwiki-links on Wikinews (as far as I can see) are the same on Miraheze. (See: [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki Special:Interwiki]) As far as I can tell, this would not affect any of the Wikinews articles, when they are moved to Miraheze. [[User:Rodejong|Rodejong]] ([[User talk:Rodejong|talk]]) 11:50, 28 November 2025 (UTC) = 7. Wikifarm requirements, classes of hosting = One of the sticking points in discussions about the future of Wikinews was what level of hosting and customization was supported or expected; WMF having a high minimum bar for supporting production servers [and hosting all servers on shared infrastructure where a change to one site can throttle or take down others]. A number of community projects have indicated that, e.g., WM Cloud Services is not great for hosting an actively edited wikifarm. But if a number of free knowledge projects need a wiki farm with good archival practices, it might make sense for this to change, or to have an official partnership b/t WMF or the WM affiliate network and such a group. To this end, defining the needed level of service provision (including multilingual support) would be a good step. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:12, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :Would WMCloud be allowed here? WMCloud is supposed to be related to a wikimedia project, if Wikinews gets shutdown its no longer a wikinews project. That said, WM Cloud is probably sufficient to host a wiki the size of Wikinews even with active editing, but it would require sysadmins who know how to manage mediawiki. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :: This question came up in another thread; even if this is possible it would be good to know exactly what level of service is needed for a neutral wikifarm like Miraheze to host WN, what that costs, &c. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 01:13, 3 April 2026 (UTC) {{anchor|hardware}}Requirements depend on the fate of the old news. Minor requirements while Wikimedia keeps the archives, but Wikinews would need to maintain or rent a strong database management system if Wikimedia ejects all WN wikis (including the past content, especially of the Russian Wikinews) completely. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) =[[MDWiki:Main_Page]]= We forked health content to MDWiki a few years ago. With respect to cost each Wiki is about 25 to 40 USD/month and this includes updates, sys admin stuff, and security. One gets 10 GB of SDD space and then it is 1$ per GB after that. You get 100 GB of bandwidth after whic it is 0.05$ per GB. Specialied software work is about 100$ per hour but they have limited capacity for this work. With respect to using the name and logo, if you have consensus here to all go in the same direction, I would be supportive. If folks want to go in different directions than things would be a bit more complicated. Do you want to move all languages to a single wiki (less expensive) or keep each language in its own wiki? We use SkizNet which is USA based. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:38, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :Do you have a comment how come Miraheze provides hosting for free, @[[User:Doc James|Doc James]]? Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:32, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: They are also volunteer-based and rely on donations from users to run their servers. See also: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/FAQ -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Like anything else, if you want to do something custom or boss people around you need to pay for it. Miraheze hosting is more similar to WMF hosting where its solid but they aren't going to suddenly bend to your whims if you dont like the existing choices. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:37, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Everyone please check this out! Thank you. == https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/78142 I have requested a new English Wikinews. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :While I appreciate your interest in Miraheze. I do not think it is wise to make a unilateral move when the community is still weighing on the best hosting option. There is still more than a month of time to decide. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Sorry but im pretty sure they have decided. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:45, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], While I appreciate the enthusiasm for saving this project, I'll reiterate Petra - users ''should not'' request a wikinews fork at Miraheze on behalf of the project while discussion is ongoing and we are still waiting for WMF clearance on branding, especially if the person making the request isn't currently an administrator/crat on the wikinews project they're requesting it for. :::While your intentions are good, this will be interpreted as hostile forking and will be declined/deleted. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 04:58, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree with others. Things are still uncertain regarding the migration. When and how it will take place. The community is still discussing it, so please be patient. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:40, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == How to get the entire enwn backed up? == CC @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] -- Hi, does anyone know how I can get the backup of the entire enwn (along with history, local files, logs -- what have you) so that I can keep a copy of it on my local system, and perhaps run it via, say a docker setup? I'd appreciate it if someone could help me with this.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 09:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :https://dumps.wikimedia.org/ —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:18, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Would you be able to guide me how to run it locally, perhaps? [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 12:07, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :I don’t think the dumps page contains the data for logs or other non page info (may be wrong, if so I’d be glad for someone to correct me). There is probably a way to get this considering replica’s of the databases containing all information for a wiki are publicly accessible, but that may be more involved. I also don’t believe images are provided as an easy dump, but there are pieces of software that can create backups of all page content and images (https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/WikiTeam being the main one). I intend to probably run a dump of the wikinewses closer to the read only date and have it uploaded to the Internet Archive, assuming WikiTeam or someone else doesn’t do so first. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 12:47, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Dumps server contains multiple files with a variety of data. I think the only thing really missing is user data and anything that has been deleted/oversighted. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 17:14, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :::What does user data mean? I won't care about the IP logs, nor should that be publicly available -- but say the scripts that pizero worked on -- lack of that might break the functionality. But does that mean the dumps can recreate the entire wiki? And also, dumps.wm has nothing after 26.01 -- is it not updated monthly? If so, will it be available post May 4.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 17:27, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::::It doesn't have your password, email,user preferences, that sort of thing. If its non-public information its not in the dumps. I'm not sure what the update frequency is. I think its slower than monthly. I imagine its documented somewhere. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 18:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) == Clarification: WM NYC and Miraheze joint bid and requests on Miraheze == Hello all, as mentioned [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts#Current_Updates on Meta-wiki], WM NYC and Miraheze representatives are in joint discussions with WMF on a potential bid for an approved revival of the Wikinews projects with permission to utilize the same name and branding. While the community's enthusiasm for saving the project is appreciated and understood (hell, I've saved a project from the Fandom memory-hole myself), Miraheze '''''will not approve any new project requests from individuals (especially those who are not admins or crats on the language-specific WN projects)''''' until we have clear and full signoff from the WMF. Thank you for your patience while discussions are ongoing. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:40, 5 April 2026 (UTC) c3nfn5yp8vd5bahcjw248yhpgt78spd 5005126 5005123 2026-04-05T16:56:11Z NotAracham 2880418 /* 7. Wikifarm requirements, classes of hosting */ Reply 5005126 wikitext text/x-wiki <center> <big> Please share your opinion regarding the migration on Meta at [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. </big> </center> = 1. Name and geographical location of new hosting. = I have no idea about this, please advise. How can this be done when half of users have slow internet and are geographically dispersed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :A Meta page has been created for discussion about the migration. Please share your votes and comments there. [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:57, 31 March 2026 (UTC) === Miraheze === :Maybe we could consider migrating to https://miraheze.org/. Their Meta page is here: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Meta. :They provide free hosting, although I am not sure whether we would need to purchase our own domain name. They also do not run advertisements and operate entirely on donations. :However, a major clarification is required: If Wikinews is closed, will the WMF also relinquish copyright to the name 'Wikinews' and its logo? If not, I'm not sure how we could proceed. Perhaps someone with legal knowledge, or someone from the WMF, could advise on this? -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:13, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::Is it easy to install our own mediawiki extensions there. Do they provide shell access. The name question is in section 5 below. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:52, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, almost all MediaWiki extensions are available there. There are also users with strong MediaWiki knowledge who can help us move forward technically. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: "almost all MediaWiki extensions" is an exaggeration. But it is true that Miraheze is significantly more willing to install new extensions than Wikimedia is: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Extensions is an incomplete list. Miraheze, while they won't provide you shell access, will let you self-service many things that require shell access on Wikimedia, such as config changes - they have a fairly flexible https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ManageWiki interface. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 03:53, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::::True. What I mean is at least enough to support Wikinews or such that Wikinews is going to need. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:18, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Miraheze might be our last good option just saying. @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:55, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Also, everyone, the WMF board has '''not yet''' made a final decision, and the current community opinion is mostly in our favor, so please don't give up participating in various discussions on metawiki. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 01:02, 1 December 2025 (UTC) ::::They will close WikiNews tomorrow. All pages will be read-only. I can register the wiki at https://wikinews.miraheze.org, if you would like. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:24, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::::To reiterate NotAracham’s comment in this thread, while Miraheze is very willing to provide hosting to Wikinews, we ask that the actual wiki request be submitted by a bureaucrat (or representative of WikiNYC if the WN community choses to pursue an arrangement with them). With all due respect, for the sake of clarify and not making things more confusing for the Wikinews community, we won’t be accepting one-off requests by users that don’t have the backing of the community’s consensus. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 21:26, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::I personally oppose the usage of Miraheze because it contains trackers that are hard for users to disable. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 16:04, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]], what are they tracking and how does this work? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::I forget the exact details because I wrote that message nearly 5 months ago, but I think that it's some sort of analytics ping that you need to block at the browser or DNS level. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 12:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::::We collect minimal aggregate tracking data through cookies for cloudflare + matomo analytics as well as session persistence, @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] would be better positioned to answer this. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy Privacy Policy] also covers our 'when and how' for usage of this data. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::If all other measures fail... we might have to try [[w:Fandom (website)|Fandom]]. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:59, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], Wikimedia is hosted in the US due to favorable freedom of speech and copyright laws. A [[w:Content delivery network]] can improve performance around the world, though that doesn't accelerate dynamic content served to users who are logged in. See [[m:Wikimedia servers]] for example.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764267938397:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:25, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> Hi folks, this is NotAracham, Director of Trust & Safety at Miraheze. We've reviewed internally and are confident that we will be able to offer hosting (from both a policy and technical standpoint) should you choose to select us once things are worked out with the WMF. I and my colleagues are happy to answer any questions the WikiNews community might have towards reaching a decision. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :You are a life saver thank you @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:16, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I think we should wait until the final decision of the Board, and if it ultimately is about closing, then I have no objection to migrate. This would be the best second possibility after Wikinews is not getting closed. Thank you for your help. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 19:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Agreed, Miraheze can save us for backup plan @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:26, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I'm an Infrastructure engineer for Miraheze and am also watching this page. You can also find me on Libera.Chat (in both #wikinews and #miraheze) or Discord if you have questions. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], it would probably be a good idea to clarify whether you are talking about English Wikinews or all Wikinews language variants. Also note that ruwikinews has on the order of 1000x more articles than most other language editions. Can Miraheze deal with [[:w:en:Russian web brigades]] ?<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764272830948:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 19:47, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::Agreed, we need to focus on English Wikinews. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:59, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Technically, I don't think any of them would be an issue. From a counter vandalism perspective, we would look to how we could support any wiki and make sure you have the tools available that you need. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 20:03, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::I'll defer to my tech colleagues on our technical capacity to host, though the general opinion seems that it would be well within possibility to host the full spectrum of languages if they choose to move to our service. Regarding the counter-vandalism aspect, our service uses Cloudflare (for both default and custom domains) to mitigate DDoS attempts, which has proven unfortunately necessary with some past antagonists. While we have an existing global CVT team to handle the more routine on-wiki trouble, we only have so many members with limited time to offer. It sounds like the Russian wikinews is one of the rare scenarios where it'd be prudent to assign some members of their moderation team [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/CheckUser#Permission delegated local CheckUser]. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 20:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], first let me declare that I don't know for sure how ruwikinews is doing currently. But you should be very careful before assigning CheckUser to anyone involved with Russian projects. The paper bear is certainly interested:<ul><li>[https://fortune.com/europe/2023/04/14/moscow-court-fines-wikipedia-refusing-remove-russia-language-article-invasion-ukraine/ Moscow court fines Wikipedia for refusing to remove a Russian-language article about the invasion of Ukraine]</li><li>[https://www.reuters.com/technology/russia-threatens-fine-wikipedia-if-it-doesnt-delete-false-information-2022-04-05/ Russia threatens to fine Wikipedia if it doesn't delete 'false information']</li><li>[https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/06/23/a89531 Russian Court Fines Wikipedia Operator Nearly $40K Over ‘P***philia Propaganda’]</li></ul>Just don't give CheckUser to the paper bear, as they could use it to prosecute dissenters. As for the current state of ruwikinews, some of the most recent articles:<ul><li>[[:n:ru:Необычный урок патриотизма провёл русский путешественник-экстремал, вернувшийся из Африки]] ([[:n:ru:Категория:Виктор Пинчук (1969)|author]] writing about himself)</li><li>[[:n:ru:В Крыму, расположенном недалеко от района боевых действий, прошла «Ночь искусств»]]: a Chinese Wikimedian, Sheminghui.WU, interviewing that user. Perhaps something is getting lost in translation, because this is the end of the last answer according to Google translate:</li></ul>{{q|1=From my personal observations, the majority of Crimean residents (myself included) are ethnic Russians. Therefore, there has generally always been a negative attitude toward the imposed "Ukrainianism" here.<br/>I'm not familiar with cultural life in eastern Ukraine or in the towns located along the front lines, but here in Crimea, everything is peaceful. Enemy drones are being shot down by professionally trained specialists.<br/>We will win!<br/>Hakuna matata!<br/>No pasaran!|4=Виктор Пинчук|5=[https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%92_%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BC%D1%83,_%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC_%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%BE%D1%82_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%8B%D1%85_%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B9,_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%BB%D0%B0_%C2%AB%D0%9D%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%8C_%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%C2%BB]}}<br/>derp I have to stop looking at this rabbit hole<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764284255586:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 22:57, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::::Ha, absolutely an area one could spend way too much time digging into, and a very fair point to bring up. Local checkuser has not been given out in the history of Miraheze, and would absolutely be a last resort. While it's a thing we'd ''consider'' if proven necessary, any grants here would have a much higher degree of scrutiny than standard cases given the well-documented hostility of the national actor in question. ::::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 23:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::As Russian Wikinews will also be closed, it will also need a new home. I will wait for their contributors to comment whether they want to do migration together and to the same host. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:04, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :::Correction: *may also be closed [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :Thanks @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]]] and @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] for following this page [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] Dear friend, will other language versions of Wikinews, especially ruwn and zhwn which have more views than enwn, can also be hosted? Thank you. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:48, 29 November 2025 (UTC) ::Yes, we are willing to provide hosting for all language flavors of wikinews should their communities choose to move to our service. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], thank you for your notes. :1. Do you have a comment on @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]]'s concern about trackers? :2. Could you confirm that you do not require content obligations in return, such as, censorship of content or necessitating to include your news on our site? :3. What features do you provide for multilingual content? Currently there are different sysops in each language edition of Wikinews, as they are separate wikis. :Apparently, move needs to happen before May 4 and [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard#Board_of_Trustees_Approves_Closure_of_Wikinews after that date content will be left read-only, here]. I asked whether Wikinews trademark can be used. :Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:56, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::4. In Miraheze can users insert Wikimedia Commons images into new pages? In Wikinews it is possible with same syntax as if it was a local image. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, it is possible to both upload local images and use files from Wikimedia Commons. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::This is cool. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:08, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Cc @[[User:Pppery|Pppery]] thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::# I've asked Rhinos to weigh in on trackers, but generally we collect the minimum data required to operate our service. Information collected in this way is used as described in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy our privacy policy] and is not sent/resold to outside parties. If there are more specific concerns to be discussed, I defer to my tech colleague. ::# We do have some limits on what may be hosted on our service, outlined in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy our content policy]. We also (as a non-profit) cannot host content specifically designed to achieve a political outcome, e.g. supporting a specific candidate or specific legislative action. Beyond these two items, we do not impose any further restrictions on your speech nor will we mandate that specific stories be written. However, it should be made clear, we cannot offer any form of legal cover should authored content result in legal action against the authors by a third party. ::# While we do have the Translate extension, the current structure is likely the cleanest way to continue operating. We do support interwiki/interlanguage linking as well, which can ease connection between versions. ::# Regarding licensing and/or permission for continued use of brand/trademark, that's something the WikiNews community will have to work out with the WMF, we do not negotiate in this way on behalf of our hosted projects. ::I think I've answered everything, but let me know if a question was missed. ::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:26, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Miraheze Tech here. To add to what NotAracham has said, we have [[miraheze:Help:How_to_support_multiple_languages_on_my_wiki|a multi-language guide]] which covers some of the options that are possible on Miraheze: ::# Separate wikis connected via interwiki language links. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are connected via interwiki language links by pointing interwiki links to the same wiki. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are synced with the translate extension. ::# Separate wikis connected via wikibase. I am not aware of any wiki that uses this option, but we do have wikibase available with a few hundred wikis that enabled the extension (whether they use it extensively is another story). I believe this option is what Wikinews uses right now. If there is enough interest, I can see if it is possible to replicate the wikinews setup on Miraheze's wikibase install. ::[[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:36, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::As for trackers, wiki bureaucrats can grant the <code>noanalytics</code> right to everyone (<code>*</code>) with ManageWiki, which will exempt all users from our tracking software (Matomo). I tested it on [https://exttest.mirabeta.org/ Miraheze's extension testing wiki] and am no longer seeing Matomo-related requests for both logged-in and anonymous users. ::With that said, this will only happen on the local wiki. If the user clicks on a link to, for example, the Privacy Policy page which is hosted on Miraheze Meta, they will be subject to the tracker again since it is on a different wiki. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 23:17, 30 March 2026 (UTC) Question; would it be possible to mirrow this wiki, so when i make an edit here, it is also automatically made at Miraheze from my account; is it possible to allow users to login using OAuth so that they do not need to register a new account; what testing is required for a custom extension to be installed on site; where is it located geographically. Does it remain free of charge. how does this organization generate income. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:10, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :# Going to consider this question moot as the WMF-hosted service will go read-only in near future. As mentioned elsewhere, we can assist with attributing edits to the MH-equivalent users following migration where there's interest in doing so. :# We utilize CentralAuth as our account infrastructure, users need only one account for any wiki hosted on our platform. Services can verify the MH account through OAuth as well. We do not, however, support OAuth for Wikimedia project accounts on our platform, a Miraheze account will need to be created. :# Custom extensions will need to go through our security review process, and will generally need to demonstrate some form of global usefulness to be considered for approval. :# We are based out of the United States of America and incorporated in the state of Idaho, the majority of our hardware infrastructure is located in the Salt lake City, Utah area. :# We are a 501(c)3 nonprofit charitable organization, we do not and will not charge for our service, the majority of our funds come from individual user donations. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances are public information], as are our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget/2026 annual budgets]. :--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:44, 30 March 2026 (UTC) In my opinion, miraheze is the most viable path forwards for wikinews. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) IMO moving Wikinews to Miraheze is just swapping one centralized authority for another. You're not fixing the problem, you're relocating it. Instead of the Wikimedia Foundation, you end up under Miraheze's policies, infrastructure, and admins. Different host, same dependency. If Wikinews is supposed to be a truly independent, community-driven news platform, then it needs its own infrastructure and governance - not another host that can pull the plug or change the rules whenever it wants. We don't even know if Miraheze can reliably handle a project of this scale (enwikinews only? all active language versions?). What infrastructure do they actually have? What guarantees are there for long-term stability, performance, and uptime? Calling this a solution is just self-deception. [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 06:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :The existing Wikinews community lacks the capability to do better than Miraheze or even come close. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Loyal opposition here. Sorry your project is closing, I hope you perhaps consider my suggestion to transition to a more news-magazine inspired format on whatever your new host is. But I agree with Bawolff. To quote the former administrator of Earth: May I remind you that the alternative, if it can be called that, is total extinction? [[User:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[User talk:Dronebogus|talk]]) 13:12, 2 April 2026 (UTC) No opinion on whether English (and others, except for ru) Wikinews should go to Miraheze, but certainly '''oppose migration of [[:ru:|ru.WN]] to Miraheze'''. Not exactly sure about conditions as of 2026, but the farm was long known to be dominated by English speakers and had zero representation of the Slavs in its establishment. Their staffers botched and failed import of Absurdopedia (the Russian Uncyclopedia), which eventually became self-hosted. <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> had some ugly interactions with Mirahezeans, myself. Meanwhile it generally is a respectable farm and <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> hold specifically {{u|John F. Lewis}}, who made a good job, in respect. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:31, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :Ironic, given the controversies surrounding John (He has a history of abusing positions of trust and got himself office banned from all Wikimedia projects). Regardless, is there another serious offer on the table? Otherwise Miraheze wins by default. Like you've made some comments that imply you might be willing to offer hosting or at least work on this. Are you actually offering to host Wikinews? Does this offer come with strings or financial requirements? Unless other offers materialize with details, it kind of seems like the choice is Miraheze or nothing. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 05:14, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::What would the hardware requirements be for hosting WikiNews? Could the administrators WN provide some more specific information? [[User:Charmeleon69|Charmeleon69]] ([[User talk:Charmeleon69|talk]]) 06:53, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::: Commented [[#hardware|here]] because this isn’t a proper thread. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) = 2. Volunteers willing to pay for new hosting. This can be from charities, Wikimedia Charters, or personal expenses. = I would volunteer towards hosting costs. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :This will not work in my opinion. After all, that's the approach taken for wn-reporters and email, and I think it's safe to say that it hasn't been successful. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 16:32, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::The lowest cost I am aware of would be 25 USD per month, so 300 USD per year. Though it sounds like Miraheze maybe free and I know a few Wikipedians are on their board. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:51, 18 December 2025 (UTC) : If hosting is going to be paid for, I think a new, non-profit organization should be formed, to to handle funding and oversight. If hosting is paid for by one or more individuals who are not organized under a charter or governing structure, it creates obvious risks: lack of accountability, unclear ownership, and potential instability if those individuals step away or disagree. : Forming a new non-profit may be a wise choice even if free hosting is used.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 10:48, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::Based on the [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Public_consultation_about_Wikinews#c-Sj-20260401032800-Victoria-20260330090000 latest developments], it seems that Wikimedia New York City may take on the future stewardship of Wikinews. That would also mean it is managed by an organization and a non-profit. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:27, 3 April 2026 (UTC) = 3. Volunteers willing to do budgeting and acounting: find out how much this will cost. = *I would contribute towards budget efforts .[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) *I might be willing to make a small donation to these efforts, but in terms of time -- I'm not too sure. I intend to take this time to (mostly) step away from most News wiki activities and do a bit of introspection. It's been about 16 years. I want to take a careful look at time/priorities etc.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:45, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:51, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *I suggest opening a donation channel at that time; I can also contribute a spare change. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 06:18, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks Sheminghui [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:59, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *::Do you folks have an NGO yet? If you dont would recommend the USA as the location to be based as fund raising from their is easiest and becoming a 503(c) is not that hard. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:49, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 4. System administration to install software and work around security vulnerabilities = I would contribute towards admin tasks including Linux system administration and MediaWiki [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :Can users use Wikipedia login on an externally hosted wiki? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :: In principle yes you could use OAuth for something like that. One example is at https://mdwiki.org, although in that case they only pre-approve accounts you could configure it differently. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 03:55, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anyway can use OAuth to log onto MDWiki with their Wikipedia user name, but you can only edit a couple of pages (your user page and a request for editing page) until you are granted editing privileges. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:46, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :In response to [[ru:User talk:Alexis Jazz#Hello]]: [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], I have no strong ties to Wikinews. Also no knowledge of ru which seems to be the largest wikinews language. And I've always wondered how a news website in wiki form could realistically work as articles likely go stale before they can get improved through the magic of wiki. From the looks of it, this is still an issue.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>Generally I'm happy to answer some questions, but actually coding for and maintaining a Wikinews successor would be a major undertaking which is not really for me.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764267275161:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::Okay thank you [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]]. What makes improving articles so difficult in wiki? What solution would you suggest? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:00, 29 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], hire some paid editors to write and publish [[w:en:wp:stub|stubs]] for all major news stories throughout the day. That way the site becomes functional as a news source, and the bar to improve a stub is lower than the bar to create an article from scratch. But I don't know who'd be willing to pay for such a thing. Volunteers tend to only write about subjects they care about, and nobody cares about ''everything''. Combined with the presence of a [[w:en:Wikipedia:There is no deadline|deadline]], as news needs to be published before it turns into [[wikt:olds#Noun 2|olds]], it makes a general news wiki very difficult to maintain with just volunteers whose time and interests are limited.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764428567237:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 15:02, 29 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::::Maybe news companies could sponsor these editors, and then copy the finished products for their outlets? [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 15:42, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::::i was thinking a tool could at least help with handling the markup if not picking the news events themselves [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:37, 11 December 2025 (UTC) : <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> can do some Unix, SQL, HTTPd and MediaWiki job. <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> am the technical director of cyclowiki.org for 4 years. IMHO using Wikimedia SULs on a non-Wikimedia site is a poor choice (not only technically, but in other respects too). [[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 09:08, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]], is it possible though? And what issues would it cause? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:38, 11 December 2025 (UTC) :::It is possible. We at MDWiki do it and we are happy with the results. But than our work is fairly integrated into the Wikipedia work. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:48, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :: <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> hereby remind of my four-months-old proposal, although am too busy specifically next several days to do anything of value. Give me a Unix shell or an SQL access and <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> won’t fail you. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 15:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::: Incnis Mrsi is a highly qualified and helpful contributor who has been supporting cyclowiki.org for many years. He's always ready to help in difficult situations, even when many prefer to sit back or remain silent. He's always willing to engage with a wide range of participants and develop any constructive ideas. I think his proposal is worth supporting. [[User:Serebr|Serebr]] ([[User talk:Serebr|talk]]) 03:17, 1 April 2026 (UTC) = 5. Name = No idea if same trademark can be used... [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] as you asked above, FYI there was fork of Wikinews in past, one was called OpenGlobe. If it is same people working on it then I do not mind, any name. For example [[:w:freenode]] moved to [[:w:Libera]] with a name change and successfully moved over 80% of tens thousands users to new site. It would be good to confirm that. Another aspect is in Question 4 whether users will need to register new account. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:54, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::I don't think Miraheze would allow IP's actually Miraheze is a '''wiki farm host'''. Sorry for the excessive pings, @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:58, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fandom_(website) [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:02, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anonymous editing can be enabled or disabled through ManageWiki on Miraheze which is normally open to all crats. ManageWiki is an easy to use extension we built so you can manage some config from on wiki. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::If we move forward with this migration, we will need a new name and logo. ::Any user from here will be able to create an account on the new Wikinews instance on Miraheze. But, there is no automatic way to transfer all existing users with us. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::If Miraheze is chosen, we will work with you guys to ensure you can claim imported edits and have them attributed to a future Miraheze accounts. Of course, you'll need to sign up again. We won't be able to transfer any user preferences or anything from Wikimedia. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: What happens with edits made by users who choose not to join the fork? If they are left as-is, are there processes in place to ensure those usernames are unavailable? For example, If I choose not to join the fork, are all of my current edits still attributed to my username and is that username essentially "taken" on Miraheze so that others can't register my name and claim my edits?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:47, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::::They would show an interwiki link back to the archived wikinews. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 15:22, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::This is correct, while edit history can be 'attributed' to Miraheze accounts created following a migration, we don't have a way to reserve usernames/migrate wikimedia logins automatically - it will require individual registration. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: Have you tried implementing OAuth for wikimedia accounts? [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :We have asked Wikimedia what rules would have to be followed if a migration did take place with regard to trademarks. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you all @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::: Related: the broader Wikimedia community should weigh in on where to redirect Wikinews traffic. This is one of the strongest reasons to try something new at the current domains. I would hope the domain is put to use supporting an active community news effort, wherever it is hosted; historical pages can redirect. Unfortunately all of the news-related forks or comparables I know of also closed for lack of activity... [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) There are tools built into mediawiki ie [[Special:Import]] that allows the entire history from one wiki to be moved to another. Lower on [https://mdwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Gout&action=history&offset=&limit=500 this page] you can see what it looks like. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:44, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 6. Other = A small comment I'd like to make is that most interwiki-links on Wikinews (as far as I can see) are the same on Miraheze. (See: [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki Special:Interwiki]) As far as I can tell, this would not affect any of the Wikinews articles, when they are moved to Miraheze. [[User:Rodejong|Rodejong]] ([[User talk:Rodejong|talk]]) 11:50, 28 November 2025 (UTC) = 7. Wikifarm requirements, classes of hosting = One of the sticking points in discussions about the future of Wikinews was what level of hosting and customization was supported or expected; WMF having a high minimum bar for supporting production servers [and hosting all servers on shared infrastructure where a change to one site can throttle or take down others]. A number of community projects have indicated that, e.g., WM Cloud Services is not great for hosting an actively edited wikifarm. But if a number of free knowledge projects need a wiki farm with good archival practices, it might make sense for this to change, or to have an official partnership b/t WMF or the WM affiliate network and such a group. To this end, defining the needed level of service provision (including multilingual support) would be a good step. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:12, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :Would WMCloud be allowed here? WMCloud is supposed to be related to a wikimedia project, if Wikinews gets shutdown its no longer a wikinews project. That said, WM Cloud is probably sufficient to host a wiki the size of Wikinews even with active editing, but it would require sysadmins who know how to manage mediawiki. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :: This question came up in another thread; even if this is possible it would be good to know exactly what level of service is needed for a neutral wikifarm like Miraheze to host WN, what that costs, &c. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 01:13, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::Having already done some discussions and sizing, while the larger news wikis would be substantial adds, none would surpass the larger projects already on our service and we have plenty of capacity to take the entire fleet of Wikinews language families should we be selected. The Miraheze of 2026 is running on a much-improved infrastructure stack over what what some might be familiar with from a few years back. :::Miraheze would not impose a charge to act as host, but as a donor-driven platform, donations are always welcome to help us keep pace with expanding demand. :) Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances] and [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget budgets] are public for those interested. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:56, 5 April 2026 (UTC) {{anchor|hardware}}Requirements depend on the fate of the old news. Minor requirements while Wikimedia keeps the archives, but Wikinews would need to maintain or rent a strong database management system if Wikimedia ejects all WN wikis (including the past content, especially of the Russian Wikinews) completely. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) =[[MDWiki:Main_Page]]= We forked health content to MDWiki a few years ago. With respect to cost each Wiki is about 25 to 40 USD/month and this includes updates, sys admin stuff, and security. One gets 10 GB of SDD space and then it is 1$ per GB after that. You get 100 GB of bandwidth after whic it is 0.05$ per GB. Specialied software work is about 100$ per hour but they have limited capacity for this work. With respect to using the name and logo, if you have consensus here to all go in the same direction, I would be supportive. If folks want to go in different directions than things would be a bit more complicated. Do you want to move all languages to a single wiki (less expensive) or keep each language in its own wiki? We use SkizNet which is USA based. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:38, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :Do you have a comment how come Miraheze provides hosting for free, @[[User:Doc James|Doc James]]? Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:32, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: They are also volunteer-based and rely on donations from users to run their servers. See also: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/FAQ -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Like anything else, if you want to do something custom or boss people around you need to pay for it. Miraheze hosting is more similar to WMF hosting where its solid but they aren't going to suddenly bend to your whims if you dont like the existing choices. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:37, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Everyone please check this out! Thank you. == https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/78142 I have requested a new English Wikinews. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :While I appreciate your interest in Miraheze. I do not think it is wise to make a unilateral move when the community is still weighing on the best hosting option. There is still more than a month of time to decide. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Sorry but im pretty sure they have decided. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:45, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], While I appreciate the enthusiasm for saving this project, I'll reiterate Petra - users ''should not'' request a wikinews fork at Miraheze on behalf of the project while discussion is ongoing and we are still waiting for WMF clearance on branding, especially if the person making the request isn't currently an administrator/crat on the wikinews project they're requesting it for. :::While your intentions are good, this will be interpreted as hostile forking and will be declined/deleted. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 04:58, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree with others. Things are still uncertain regarding the migration. When and how it will take place. The community is still discussing it, so please be patient. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:40, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == How to get the entire enwn backed up? == CC @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] -- Hi, does anyone know how I can get the backup of the entire enwn (along with history, local files, logs -- what have you) so that I can keep a copy of it on my local system, and perhaps run it via, say a docker setup? I'd appreciate it if someone could help me with this.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 09:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :https://dumps.wikimedia.org/ —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:18, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Would you be able to guide me how to run it locally, perhaps? [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 12:07, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :I don’t think the dumps page contains the data for logs or other non page info (may be wrong, if so I’d be glad for someone to correct me). There is probably a way to get this considering replica’s of the databases containing all information for a wiki are publicly accessible, but that may be more involved. I also don’t believe images are provided as an easy dump, but there are pieces of software that can create backups of all page content and images (https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/WikiTeam being the main one). I intend to probably run a dump of the wikinewses closer to the read only date and have it uploaded to the Internet Archive, assuming WikiTeam or someone else doesn’t do so first. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 12:47, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Dumps server contains multiple files with a variety of data. I think the only thing really missing is user data and anything that has been deleted/oversighted. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 17:14, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :::What does user data mean? I won't care about the IP logs, nor should that be publicly available -- but say the scripts that pizero worked on -- lack of that might break the functionality. But does that mean the dumps can recreate the entire wiki? And also, dumps.wm has nothing after 26.01 -- is it not updated monthly? If so, will it be available post May 4.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 17:27, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::::It doesn't have your password, email,user preferences, that sort of thing. If its non-public information its not in the dumps. I'm not sure what the update frequency is. I think its slower than monthly. I imagine its documented somewhere. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 18:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) == Clarification: WM NYC and Miraheze joint bid and requests on Miraheze == Hello all, as mentioned [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts#Current_Updates on Meta-wiki], WM NYC and Miraheze representatives are in joint discussions with WMF on a potential bid for an approved revival of the Wikinews projects with permission to utilize the same name and branding. While the community's enthusiasm for saving the project is appreciated and understood (hell, I've saved a project from the Fandom memory-hole myself), Miraheze '''''will not approve any new project requests from individuals (especially those who are not admins or crats on the language-specific WN projects)''''' until we have clear and full signoff from the WMF. Thank you for your patience while discussions are ongoing. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:40, 5 April 2026 (UTC) 88ofqnlxxgtbd3v4utewz5vl5qn9dct 5005127 5005126 2026-04-05T16:56:44Z NotAracham 2880418 /* 7. Wikifarm requirements, classes of hosting */ removing duplicate word 5005127 wikitext text/x-wiki <center> <big> Please share your opinion regarding the migration on Meta at [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. </big> </center> = 1. Name and geographical location of new hosting. = I have no idea about this, please advise. How can this be done when half of users have slow internet and are geographically dispersed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :A Meta page has been created for discussion about the migration. Please share your votes and comments there. [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:57, 31 March 2026 (UTC) === Miraheze === :Maybe we could consider migrating to https://miraheze.org/. Their Meta page is here: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Meta. :They provide free hosting, although I am not sure whether we would need to purchase our own domain name. They also do not run advertisements and operate entirely on donations. :However, a major clarification is required: If Wikinews is closed, will the WMF also relinquish copyright to the name 'Wikinews' and its logo? If not, I'm not sure how we could proceed. Perhaps someone with legal knowledge, or someone from the WMF, could advise on this? -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:13, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::Is it easy to install our own mediawiki extensions there. Do they provide shell access. The name question is in section 5 below. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:52, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, almost all MediaWiki extensions are available there. There are also users with strong MediaWiki knowledge who can help us move forward technically. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: "almost all MediaWiki extensions" is an exaggeration. But it is true that Miraheze is significantly more willing to install new extensions than Wikimedia is: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Extensions is an incomplete list. Miraheze, while they won't provide you shell access, will let you self-service many things that require shell access on Wikimedia, such as config changes - they have a fairly flexible https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ManageWiki interface. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 03:53, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::::True. What I mean is at least enough to support Wikinews or such that Wikinews is going to need. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:18, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Miraheze might be our last good option just saying. @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:55, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Also, everyone, the WMF board has '''not yet''' made a final decision, and the current community opinion is mostly in our favor, so please don't give up participating in various discussions on metawiki. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 01:02, 1 December 2025 (UTC) ::::They will close WikiNews tomorrow. All pages will be read-only. I can register the wiki at https://wikinews.miraheze.org, if you would like. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:24, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::::To reiterate NotAracham’s comment in this thread, while Miraheze is very willing to provide hosting to Wikinews, we ask that the actual wiki request be submitted by a bureaucrat (or representative of WikiNYC if the WN community choses to pursue an arrangement with them). With all due respect, for the sake of clarify and not making things more confusing for the Wikinews community, we won’t be accepting one-off requests by users that don’t have the backing of the community’s consensus. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 21:26, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::I personally oppose the usage of Miraheze because it contains trackers that are hard for users to disable. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 16:04, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]], what are they tracking and how does this work? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::I forget the exact details because I wrote that message nearly 5 months ago, but I think that it's some sort of analytics ping that you need to block at the browser or DNS level. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 12:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::::We collect minimal aggregate tracking data through cookies for cloudflare + matomo analytics as well as session persistence, @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] would be better positioned to answer this. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy Privacy Policy] also covers our 'when and how' for usage of this data. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::If all other measures fail... we might have to try [[w:Fandom (website)|Fandom]]. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:59, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], Wikimedia is hosted in the US due to favorable freedom of speech and copyright laws. A [[w:Content delivery network]] can improve performance around the world, though that doesn't accelerate dynamic content served to users who are logged in. See [[m:Wikimedia servers]] for example.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764267938397:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:25, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> Hi folks, this is NotAracham, Director of Trust & Safety at Miraheze. We've reviewed internally and are confident that we will be able to offer hosting (from both a policy and technical standpoint) should you choose to select us once things are worked out with the WMF. I and my colleagues are happy to answer any questions the WikiNews community might have towards reaching a decision. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :You are a life saver thank you @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:16, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I think we should wait until the final decision of the Board, and if it ultimately is about closing, then I have no objection to migrate. This would be the best second possibility after Wikinews is not getting closed. Thank you for your help. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 19:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Agreed, Miraheze can save us for backup plan @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:26, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I'm an Infrastructure engineer for Miraheze and am also watching this page. You can also find me on Libera.Chat (in both #wikinews and #miraheze) or Discord if you have questions. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], it would probably be a good idea to clarify whether you are talking about English Wikinews or all Wikinews language variants. Also note that ruwikinews has on the order of 1000x more articles than most other language editions. Can Miraheze deal with [[:w:en:Russian web brigades]] ?<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764272830948:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 19:47, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::Agreed, we need to focus on English Wikinews. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:59, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Technically, I don't think any of them would be an issue. From a counter vandalism perspective, we would look to how we could support any wiki and make sure you have the tools available that you need. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 20:03, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::I'll defer to my tech colleagues on our technical capacity to host, though the general opinion seems that it would be well within possibility to host the full spectrum of languages if they choose to move to our service. Regarding the counter-vandalism aspect, our service uses Cloudflare (for both default and custom domains) to mitigate DDoS attempts, which has proven unfortunately necessary with some past antagonists. While we have an existing global CVT team to handle the more routine on-wiki trouble, we only have so many members with limited time to offer. It sounds like the Russian wikinews is one of the rare scenarios where it'd be prudent to assign some members of their moderation team [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/CheckUser#Permission delegated local CheckUser]. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 20:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], first let me declare that I don't know for sure how ruwikinews is doing currently. But you should be very careful before assigning CheckUser to anyone involved with Russian projects. The paper bear is certainly interested:<ul><li>[https://fortune.com/europe/2023/04/14/moscow-court-fines-wikipedia-refusing-remove-russia-language-article-invasion-ukraine/ Moscow court fines Wikipedia for refusing to remove a Russian-language article about the invasion of Ukraine]</li><li>[https://www.reuters.com/technology/russia-threatens-fine-wikipedia-if-it-doesnt-delete-false-information-2022-04-05/ Russia threatens to fine Wikipedia if it doesn't delete 'false information']</li><li>[https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/06/23/a89531 Russian Court Fines Wikipedia Operator Nearly $40K Over ‘P***philia Propaganda’]</li></ul>Just don't give CheckUser to the paper bear, as they could use it to prosecute dissenters. As for the current state of ruwikinews, some of the most recent articles:<ul><li>[[:n:ru:Необычный урок патриотизма провёл русский путешественник-экстремал, вернувшийся из Африки]] ([[:n:ru:Категория:Виктор Пинчук (1969)|author]] writing about himself)</li><li>[[:n:ru:В Крыму, расположенном недалеко от района боевых действий, прошла «Ночь искусств»]]: a Chinese Wikimedian, Sheminghui.WU, interviewing that user. Perhaps something is getting lost in translation, because this is the end of the last answer according to Google translate:</li></ul>{{q|1=From my personal observations, the majority of Crimean residents (myself included) are ethnic Russians. Therefore, there has generally always been a negative attitude toward the imposed "Ukrainianism" here.<br/>I'm not familiar with cultural life in eastern Ukraine or in the towns located along the front lines, but here in Crimea, everything is peaceful. Enemy drones are being shot down by professionally trained specialists.<br/>We will win!<br/>Hakuna matata!<br/>No pasaran!|4=Виктор Пинчук|5=[https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%92_%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BC%D1%83,_%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC_%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%BE%D1%82_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%8B%D1%85_%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B9,_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%BB%D0%B0_%C2%AB%D0%9D%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%8C_%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%C2%BB]}}<br/>derp I have to stop looking at this rabbit hole<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764284255586:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 22:57, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::::Ha, absolutely an area one could spend way too much time digging into, and a very fair point to bring up. Local checkuser has not been given out in the history of Miraheze, and would absolutely be a last resort. While it's a thing we'd ''consider'' if proven necessary, any grants here would have a much higher degree of scrutiny than standard cases given the well-documented hostility of the national actor in question. ::::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 23:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::As Russian Wikinews will also be closed, it will also need a new home. I will wait for their contributors to comment whether they want to do migration together and to the same host. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:04, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :::Correction: *may also be closed [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :Thanks @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]]] and @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] for following this page [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] Dear friend, will other language versions of Wikinews, especially ruwn and zhwn which have more views than enwn, can also be hosted? Thank you. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:48, 29 November 2025 (UTC) ::Yes, we are willing to provide hosting for all language flavors of wikinews should their communities choose to move to our service. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], thank you for your notes. :1. Do you have a comment on @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]]'s concern about trackers? :2. Could you confirm that you do not require content obligations in return, such as, censorship of content or necessitating to include your news on our site? :3. What features do you provide for multilingual content? Currently there are different sysops in each language edition of Wikinews, as they are separate wikis. :Apparently, move needs to happen before May 4 and [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard#Board_of_Trustees_Approves_Closure_of_Wikinews after that date content will be left read-only, here]. I asked whether Wikinews trademark can be used. :Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:56, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::4. In Miraheze can users insert Wikimedia Commons images into new pages? In Wikinews it is possible with same syntax as if it was a local image. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, it is possible to both upload local images and use files from Wikimedia Commons. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::This is cool. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:08, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Cc @[[User:Pppery|Pppery]] thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::# I've asked Rhinos to weigh in on trackers, but generally we collect the minimum data required to operate our service. Information collected in this way is used as described in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy our privacy policy] and is not sent/resold to outside parties. If there are more specific concerns to be discussed, I defer to my tech colleague. ::# We do have some limits on what may be hosted on our service, outlined in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy our content policy]. We also (as a non-profit) cannot host content specifically designed to achieve a political outcome, e.g. supporting a specific candidate or specific legislative action. Beyond these two items, we do not impose any further restrictions on your speech nor will we mandate that specific stories be written. However, it should be made clear, we cannot offer any form of legal cover should authored content result in legal action against the authors by a third party. ::# While we do have the Translate extension, the current structure is likely the cleanest way to continue operating. We do support interwiki/interlanguage linking as well, which can ease connection between versions. ::# Regarding licensing and/or permission for continued use of brand/trademark, that's something the WikiNews community will have to work out with the WMF, we do not negotiate in this way on behalf of our hosted projects. ::I think I've answered everything, but let me know if a question was missed. ::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:26, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Miraheze Tech here. To add to what NotAracham has said, we have [[miraheze:Help:How_to_support_multiple_languages_on_my_wiki|a multi-language guide]] which covers some of the options that are possible on Miraheze: ::# Separate wikis connected via interwiki language links. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are connected via interwiki language links by pointing interwiki links to the same wiki. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are synced with the translate extension. ::# Separate wikis connected via wikibase. I am not aware of any wiki that uses this option, but we do have wikibase available with a few hundred wikis that enabled the extension (whether they use it extensively is another story). I believe this option is what Wikinews uses right now. If there is enough interest, I can see if it is possible to replicate the wikinews setup on Miraheze's wikibase install. ::[[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:36, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::As for trackers, wiki bureaucrats can grant the <code>noanalytics</code> right to everyone (<code>*</code>) with ManageWiki, which will exempt all users from our tracking software (Matomo). I tested it on [https://exttest.mirabeta.org/ Miraheze's extension testing wiki] and am no longer seeing Matomo-related requests for both logged-in and anonymous users. ::With that said, this will only happen on the local wiki. If the user clicks on a link to, for example, the Privacy Policy page which is hosted on Miraheze Meta, they will be subject to the tracker again since it is on a different wiki. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 23:17, 30 March 2026 (UTC) Question; would it be possible to mirrow this wiki, so when i make an edit here, it is also automatically made at Miraheze from my account; is it possible to allow users to login using OAuth so that they do not need to register a new account; what testing is required for a custom extension to be installed on site; where is it located geographically. Does it remain free of charge. how does this organization generate income. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:10, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :# Going to consider this question moot as the WMF-hosted service will go read-only in near future. As mentioned elsewhere, we can assist with attributing edits to the MH-equivalent users following migration where there's interest in doing so. :# We utilize CentralAuth as our account infrastructure, users need only one account for any wiki hosted on our platform. Services can verify the MH account through OAuth as well. We do not, however, support OAuth for Wikimedia project accounts on our platform, a Miraheze account will need to be created. :# Custom extensions will need to go through our security review process, and will generally need to demonstrate some form of global usefulness to be considered for approval. :# We are based out of the United States of America and incorporated in the state of Idaho, the majority of our hardware infrastructure is located in the Salt lake City, Utah area. :# We are a 501(c)3 nonprofit charitable organization, we do not and will not charge for our service, the majority of our funds come from individual user donations. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances are public information], as are our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget/2026 annual budgets]. :--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:44, 30 March 2026 (UTC) In my opinion, miraheze is the most viable path forwards for wikinews. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) IMO moving Wikinews to Miraheze is just swapping one centralized authority for another. You're not fixing the problem, you're relocating it. Instead of the Wikimedia Foundation, you end up under Miraheze's policies, infrastructure, and admins. Different host, same dependency. If Wikinews is supposed to be a truly independent, community-driven news platform, then it needs its own infrastructure and governance - not another host that can pull the plug or change the rules whenever it wants. We don't even know if Miraheze can reliably handle a project of this scale (enwikinews only? all active language versions?). What infrastructure do they actually have? What guarantees are there for long-term stability, performance, and uptime? Calling this a solution is just self-deception. [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 06:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :The existing Wikinews community lacks the capability to do better than Miraheze or even come close. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Loyal opposition here. Sorry your project is closing, I hope you perhaps consider my suggestion to transition to a more news-magazine inspired format on whatever your new host is. But I agree with Bawolff. To quote the former administrator of Earth: May I remind you that the alternative, if it can be called that, is total extinction? [[User:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[User talk:Dronebogus|talk]]) 13:12, 2 April 2026 (UTC) No opinion on whether English (and others, except for ru) Wikinews should go to Miraheze, but certainly '''oppose migration of [[:ru:|ru.WN]] to Miraheze'''. Not exactly sure about conditions as of 2026, but the farm was long known to be dominated by English speakers and had zero representation of the Slavs in its establishment. Their staffers botched and failed import of Absurdopedia (the Russian Uncyclopedia), which eventually became self-hosted. <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> had some ugly interactions with Mirahezeans, myself. Meanwhile it generally is a respectable farm and <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> hold specifically {{u|John F. Lewis}}, who made a good job, in respect. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:31, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :Ironic, given the controversies surrounding John (He has a history of abusing positions of trust and got himself office banned from all Wikimedia projects). Regardless, is there another serious offer on the table? Otherwise Miraheze wins by default. Like you've made some comments that imply you might be willing to offer hosting or at least work on this. Are you actually offering to host Wikinews? Does this offer come with strings or financial requirements? Unless other offers materialize with details, it kind of seems like the choice is Miraheze or nothing. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 05:14, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::What would the hardware requirements be for hosting WikiNews? Could the administrators WN provide some more specific information? [[User:Charmeleon69|Charmeleon69]] ([[User talk:Charmeleon69|talk]]) 06:53, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::: Commented [[#hardware|here]] because this isn’t a proper thread. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) = 2. Volunteers willing to pay for new hosting. This can be from charities, Wikimedia Charters, or personal expenses. = I would volunteer towards hosting costs. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :This will not work in my opinion. After all, that's the approach taken for wn-reporters and email, and I think it's safe to say that it hasn't been successful. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 16:32, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::The lowest cost I am aware of would be 25 USD per month, so 300 USD per year. Though it sounds like Miraheze maybe free and I know a few Wikipedians are on their board. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:51, 18 December 2025 (UTC) : If hosting is going to be paid for, I think a new, non-profit organization should be formed, to to handle funding and oversight. If hosting is paid for by one or more individuals who are not organized under a charter or governing structure, it creates obvious risks: lack of accountability, unclear ownership, and potential instability if those individuals step away or disagree. : Forming a new non-profit may be a wise choice even if free hosting is used.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 10:48, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::Based on the [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Public_consultation_about_Wikinews#c-Sj-20260401032800-Victoria-20260330090000 latest developments], it seems that Wikimedia New York City may take on the future stewardship of Wikinews. That would also mean it is managed by an organization and a non-profit. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:27, 3 April 2026 (UTC) = 3. Volunteers willing to do budgeting and acounting: find out how much this will cost. = *I would contribute towards budget efforts .[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) *I might be willing to make a small donation to these efforts, but in terms of time -- I'm not too sure. I intend to take this time to (mostly) step away from most News wiki activities and do a bit of introspection. It's been about 16 years. I want to take a careful look at time/priorities etc.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:45, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:51, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *I suggest opening a donation channel at that time; I can also contribute a spare change. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 06:18, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks Sheminghui [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:59, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *::Do you folks have an NGO yet? If you dont would recommend the USA as the location to be based as fund raising from their is easiest and becoming a 503(c) is not that hard. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:49, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 4. System administration to install software and work around security vulnerabilities = I would contribute towards admin tasks including Linux system administration and MediaWiki [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :Can users use Wikipedia login on an externally hosted wiki? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :: In principle yes you could use OAuth for something like that. One example is at https://mdwiki.org, although in that case they only pre-approve accounts you could configure it differently. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 03:55, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anyway can use OAuth to log onto MDWiki with their Wikipedia user name, but you can only edit a couple of pages (your user page and a request for editing page) until you are granted editing privileges. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:46, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :In response to [[ru:User talk:Alexis Jazz#Hello]]: [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], I have no strong ties to Wikinews. Also no knowledge of ru which seems to be the largest wikinews language. And I've always wondered how a news website in wiki form could realistically work as articles likely go stale before they can get improved through the magic of wiki. From the looks of it, this is still an issue.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>Generally I'm happy to answer some questions, but actually coding for and maintaining a Wikinews successor would be a major undertaking which is not really for me.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764267275161:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::Okay thank you [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]]. What makes improving articles so difficult in wiki? What solution would you suggest? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:00, 29 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], hire some paid editors to write and publish [[w:en:wp:stub|stubs]] for all major news stories throughout the day. That way the site becomes functional as a news source, and the bar to improve a stub is lower than the bar to create an article from scratch. But I don't know who'd be willing to pay for such a thing. Volunteers tend to only write about subjects they care about, and nobody cares about ''everything''. Combined with the presence of a [[w:en:Wikipedia:There is no deadline|deadline]], as news needs to be published before it turns into [[wikt:olds#Noun 2|olds]], it makes a general news wiki very difficult to maintain with just volunteers whose time and interests are limited.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764428567237:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 15:02, 29 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::::Maybe news companies could sponsor these editors, and then copy the finished products for their outlets? [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 15:42, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::::i was thinking a tool could at least help with handling the markup if not picking the news events themselves [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:37, 11 December 2025 (UTC) : <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> can do some Unix, SQL, HTTPd and MediaWiki job. <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> am the technical director of cyclowiki.org for 4 years. IMHO using Wikimedia SULs on a non-Wikimedia site is a poor choice (not only technically, but in other respects too). [[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 09:08, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]], is it possible though? And what issues would it cause? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:38, 11 December 2025 (UTC) :::It is possible. We at MDWiki do it and we are happy with the results. But than our work is fairly integrated into the Wikipedia work. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:48, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :: <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> hereby remind of my four-months-old proposal, although am too busy specifically next several days to do anything of value. Give me a Unix shell or an SQL access and <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> won’t fail you. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 15:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::: Incnis Mrsi is a highly qualified and helpful contributor who has been supporting cyclowiki.org for many years. He's always ready to help in difficult situations, even when many prefer to sit back or remain silent. He's always willing to engage with a wide range of participants and develop any constructive ideas. I think his proposal is worth supporting. [[User:Serebr|Serebr]] ([[User talk:Serebr|talk]]) 03:17, 1 April 2026 (UTC) = 5. Name = No idea if same trademark can be used... [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] as you asked above, FYI there was fork of Wikinews in past, one was called OpenGlobe. If it is same people working on it then I do not mind, any name. For example [[:w:freenode]] moved to [[:w:Libera]] with a name change and successfully moved over 80% of tens thousands users to new site. It would be good to confirm that. Another aspect is in Question 4 whether users will need to register new account. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:54, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::I don't think Miraheze would allow IP's actually Miraheze is a '''wiki farm host'''. Sorry for the excessive pings, @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:58, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fandom_(website) [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:02, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anonymous editing can be enabled or disabled through ManageWiki on Miraheze which is normally open to all crats. ManageWiki is an easy to use extension we built so you can manage some config from on wiki. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::If we move forward with this migration, we will need a new name and logo. ::Any user from here will be able to create an account on the new Wikinews instance on Miraheze. But, there is no automatic way to transfer all existing users with us. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::If Miraheze is chosen, we will work with you guys to ensure you can claim imported edits and have them attributed to a future Miraheze accounts. Of course, you'll need to sign up again. We won't be able to transfer any user preferences or anything from Wikimedia. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: What happens with edits made by users who choose not to join the fork? If they are left as-is, are there processes in place to ensure those usernames are unavailable? For example, If I choose not to join the fork, are all of my current edits still attributed to my username and is that username essentially "taken" on Miraheze so that others can't register my name and claim my edits?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:47, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::::They would show an interwiki link back to the archived wikinews. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 15:22, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::This is correct, while edit history can be 'attributed' to Miraheze accounts created following a migration, we don't have a way to reserve usernames/migrate wikimedia logins automatically - it will require individual registration. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: Have you tried implementing OAuth for wikimedia accounts? [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :We have asked Wikimedia what rules would have to be followed if a migration did take place with regard to trademarks. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you all @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::: Related: the broader Wikimedia community should weigh in on where to redirect Wikinews traffic. This is one of the strongest reasons to try something new at the current domains. I would hope the domain is put to use supporting an active community news effort, wherever it is hosted; historical pages can redirect. Unfortunately all of the news-related forks or comparables I know of also closed for lack of activity... [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) There are tools built into mediawiki ie [[Special:Import]] that allows the entire history from one wiki to be moved to another. Lower on [https://mdwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Gout&action=history&offset=&limit=500 this page] you can see what it looks like. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:44, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 6. Other = A small comment I'd like to make is that most interwiki-links on Wikinews (as far as I can see) are the same on Miraheze. (See: [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki Special:Interwiki]) As far as I can tell, this would not affect any of the Wikinews articles, when they are moved to Miraheze. [[User:Rodejong|Rodejong]] ([[User talk:Rodejong|talk]]) 11:50, 28 November 2025 (UTC) = 7. Wikifarm requirements, classes of hosting = One of the sticking points in discussions about the future of Wikinews was what level of hosting and customization was supported or expected; WMF having a high minimum bar for supporting production servers [and hosting all servers on shared infrastructure where a change to one site can throttle or take down others]. A number of community projects have indicated that, e.g., WM Cloud Services is not great for hosting an actively edited wikifarm. But if a number of free knowledge projects need a wiki farm with good archival practices, it might make sense for this to change, or to have an official partnership b/t WMF or the WM affiliate network and such a group. To this end, defining the needed level of service provision (including multilingual support) would be a good step. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:12, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :Would WMCloud be allowed here? WMCloud is supposed to be related to a wikimedia project, if Wikinews gets shutdown its no longer a wikinews project. That said, WM Cloud is probably sufficient to host a wiki the size of Wikinews even with active editing, but it would require sysadmins who know how to manage mediawiki. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :: This question came up in another thread; even if this is possible it would be good to know exactly what level of service is needed for a neutral wikifarm like Miraheze to host WN, what that costs, &c. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 01:13, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::Having already done some discussions and sizing, while the larger news wikis would be substantial adds, none would surpass the larger projects already on our service and we have plenty of capacity to take the entire fleet of Wikinews language families should we be selected. The Miraheze of 2026 is running on a much-improved infrastructure stack over what some might be familiar with from a few years back. :::Miraheze would not impose a charge to act as host, but as a donor-driven platform, donations are always welcome to help us keep pace with expanding demand. :) Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances] and [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget budgets] are public for those interested. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:56, 5 April 2026 (UTC) {{anchor|hardware}}Requirements depend on the fate of the old news. Minor requirements while Wikimedia keeps the archives, but Wikinews would need to maintain or rent a strong database management system if Wikimedia ejects all WN wikis (including the past content, especially of the Russian Wikinews) completely. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) =[[MDWiki:Main_Page]]= We forked health content to MDWiki a few years ago. With respect to cost each Wiki is about 25 to 40 USD/month and this includes updates, sys admin stuff, and security. One gets 10 GB of SDD space and then it is 1$ per GB after that. You get 100 GB of bandwidth after whic it is 0.05$ per GB. Specialied software work is about 100$ per hour but they have limited capacity for this work. With respect to using the name and logo, if you have consensus here to all go in the same direction, I would be supportive. If folks want to go in different directions than things would be a bit more complicated. Do you want to move all languages to a single wiki (less expensive) or keep each language in its own wiki? We use SkizNet which is USA based. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:38, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :Do you have a comment how come Miraheze provides hosting for free, @[[User:Doc James|Doc James]]? Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:32, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: They are also volunteer-based and rely on donations from users to run their servers. See also: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/FAQ -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Like anything else, if you want to do something custom or boss people around you need to pay for it. Miraheze hosting is more similar to WMF hosting where its solid but they aren't going to suddenly bend to your whims if you dont like the existing choices. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:37, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Everyone please check this out! Thank you. == https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/78142 I have requested a new English Wikinews. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :While I appreciate your interest in Miraheze. I do not think it is wise to make a unilateral move when the community is still weighing on the best hosting option. There is still more than a month of time to decide. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Sorry but im pretty sure they have decided. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:45, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], While I appreciate the enthusiasm for saving this project, I'll reiterate Petra - users ''should not'' request a wikinews fork at Miraheze on behalf of the project while discussion is ongoing and we are still waiting for WMF clearance on branding, especially if the person making the request isn't currently an administrator/crat on the wikinews project they're requesting it for. :::While your intentions are good, this will be interpreted as hostile forking and will be declined/deleted. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 04:58, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree with others. Things are still uncertain regarding the migration. When and how it will take place. The community is still discussing it, so please be patient. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:40, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == How to get the entire enwn backed up? == CC @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] -- Hi, does anyone know how I can get the backup of the entire enwn (along with history, local files, logs -- what have you) so that I can keep a copy of it on my local system, and perhaps run it via, say a docker setup? I'd appreciate it if someone could help me with this.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 09:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :https://dumps.wikimedia.org/ —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:18, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Would you be able to guide me how to run it locally, perhaps? [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 12:07, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :I don’t think the dumps page contains the data for logs or other non page info (may be wrong, if so I’d be glad for someone to correct me). There is probably a way to get this considering replica’s of the databases containing all information for a wiki are publicly accessible, but that may be more involved. I also don’t believe images are provided as an easy dump, but there are pieces of software that can create backups of all page content and images (https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/WikiTeam being the main one). I intend to probably run a dump of the wikinewses closer to the read only date and have it uploaded to the Internet Archive, assuming WikiTeam or someone else doesn’t do so first. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 12:47, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Dumps server contains multiple files with a variety of data. I think the only thing really missing is user data and anything that has been deleted/oversighted. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 17:14, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :::What does user data mean? I won't care about the IP logs, nor should that be publicly available -- but say the scripts that pizero worked on -- lack of that might break the functionality. But does that mean the dumps can recreate the entire wiki? And also, dumps.wm has nothing after 26.01 -- is it not updated monthly? If so, will it be available post May 4.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 17:27, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::::It doesn't have your password, email,user preferences, that sort of thing. If its non-public information its not in the dumps. I'm not sure what the update frequency is. I think its slower than monthly. I imagine its documented somewhere. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 18:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) == Clarification: WM NYC and Miraheze joint bid and requests on Miraheze == Hello all, as mentioned [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts#Current_Updates on Meta-wiki], WM NYC and Miraheze representatives are in joint discussions with WMF on a potential bid for an approved revival of the Wikinews projects with permission to utilize the same name and branding. While the community's enthusiasm for saving the project is appreciated and understood (hell, I've saved a project from the Fandom memory-hole myself), Miraheze '''''will not approve any new project requests from individuals (especially those who are not admins or crats on the language-specific WN projects)''''' until we have clear and full signoff from the WMF. Thank you for your patience while discussions are ongoing. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:40, 5 April 2026 (UTC) 40if76i3m3xvsd5265jxqa5ghx7kwa5 5005170 5005127 2026-04-05T21:31:55Z BigKrow 2871522 /* 7. Wikifarm requirements, classes of hosting */ Reply 5005170 wikitext text/x-wiki <center> <big> Please share your opinion regarding the migration on Meta at [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. </big> </center> = 1. Name and geographical location of new hosting. = I have no idea about this, please advise. How can this be done when half of users have slow internet and are geographically dispersed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :A Meta page has been created for discussion about the migration. Please share your votes and comments there. [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:57, 31 March 2026 (UTC) === Miraheze === :Maybe we could consider migrating to https://miraheze.org/. Their Meta page is here: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Meta. :They provide free hosting, although I am not sure whether we would need to purchase our own domain name. They also do not run advertisements and operate entirely on donations. :However, a major clarification is required: If Wikinews is closed, will the WMF also relinquish copyright to the name 'Wikinews' and its logo? If not, I'm not sure how we could proceed. Perhaps someone with legal knowledge, or someone from the WMF, could advise on this? -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:13, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::Is it easy to install our own mediawiki extensions there. Do they provide shell access. The name question is in section 5 below. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:52, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, almost all MediaWiki extensions are available there. There are also users with strong MediaWiki knowledge who can help us move forward technically. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: "almost all MediaWiki extensions" is an exaggeration. But it is true that Miraheze is significantly more willing to install new extensions than Wikimedia is: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Extensions is an incomplete list. Miraheze, while they won't provide you shell access, will let you self-service many things that require shell access on Wikimedia, such as config changes - they have a fairly flexible https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ManageWiki interface. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 03:53, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::::True. What I mean is at least enough to support Wikinews or such that Wikinews is going to need. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:18, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Miraheze might be our last good option just saying. @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:55, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Also, everyone, the WMF board has '''not yet''' made a final decision, and the current community opinion is mostly in our favor, so please don't give up participating in various discussions on metawiki. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 01:02, 1 December 2025 (UTC) ::::They will close WikiNews tomorrow. All pages will be read-only. I can register the wiki at https://wikinews.miraheze.org, if you would like. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:24, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::::To reiterate NotAracham’s comment in this thread, while Miraheze is very willing to provide hosting to Wikinews, we ask that the actual wiki request be submitted by a bureaucrat (or representative of WikiNYC if the WN community choses to pursue an arrangement with them). With all due respect, for the sake of clarify and not making things more confusing for the Wikinews community, we won’t be accepting one-off requests by users that don’t have the backing of the community’s consensus. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 21:26, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::I personally oppose the usage of Miraheze because it contains trackers that are hard for users to disable. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 16:04, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]], what are they tracking and how does this work? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::I forget the exact details because I wrote that message nearly 5 months ago, but I think that it's some sort of analytics ping that you need to block at the browser or DNS level. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 12:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::::We collect minimal aggregate tracking data through cookies for cloudflare + matomo analytics as well as session persistence, @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] would be better positioned to answer this. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy Privacy Policy] also covers our 'when and how' for usage of this data. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::If all other measures fail... we might have to try [[w:Fandom (website)|Fandom]]. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:59, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], Wikimedia is hosted in the US due to favorable freedom of speech and copyright laws. A [[w:Content delivery network]] can improve performance around the world, though that doesn't accelerate dynamic content served to users who are logged in. See [[m:Wikimedia servers]] for example.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764267938397:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:25, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> Hi folks, this is NotAracham, Director of Trust & Safety at Miraheze. We've reviewed internally and are confident that we will be able to offer hosting (from both a policy and technical standpoint) should you choose to select us once things are worked out with the WMF. I and my colleagues are happy to answer any questions the WikiNews community might have towards reaching a decision. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :You are a life saver thank you @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:16, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I think we should wait until the final decision of the Board, and if it ultimately is about closing, then I have no objection to migrate. This would be the best second possibility after Wikinews is not getting closed. Thank you for your help. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 19:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Agreed, Miraheze can save us for backup plan @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:26, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I'm an Infrastructure engineer for Miraheze and am also watching this page. You can also find me on Libera.Chat (in both #wikinews and #miraheze) or Discord if you have questions. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], it would probably be a good idea to clarify whether you are talking about English Wikinews or all Wikinews language variants. Also note that ruwikinews has on the order of 1000x more articles than most other language editions. Can Miraheze deal with [[:w:en:Russian web brigades]] ?<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764272830948:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 19:47, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::Agreed, we need to focus on English Wikinews. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:59, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Technically, I don't think any of them would be an issue. From a counter vandalism perspective, we would look to how we could support any wiki and make sure you have the tools available that you need. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 20:03, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::I'll defer to my tech colleagues on our technical capacity to host, though the general opinion seems that it would be well within possibility to host the full spectrum of languages if they choose to move to our service. Regarding the counter-vandalism aspect, our service uses Cloudflare (for both default and custom domains) to mitigate DDoS attempts, which has proven unfortunately necessary with some past antagonists. While we have an existing global CVT team to handle the more routine on-wiki trouble, we only have so many members with limited time to offer. It sounds like the Russian wikinews is one of the rare scenarios where it'd be prudent to assign some members of their moderation team [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/CheckUser#Permission delegated local CheckUser]. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 20:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], first let me declare that I don't know for sure how ruwikinews is doing currently. But you should be very careful before assigning CheckUser to anyone involved with Russian projects. The paper bear is certainly interested:<ul><li>[https://fortune.com/europe/2023/04/14/moscow-court-fines-wikipedia-refusing-remove-russia-language-article-invasion-ukraine/ Moscow court fines Wikipedia for refusing to remove a Russian-language article about the invasion of Ukraine]</li><li>[https://www.reuters.com/technology/russia-threatens-fine-wikipedia-if-it-doesnt-delete-false-information-2022-04-05/ Russia threatens to fine Wikipedia if it doesn't delete 'false information']</li><li>[https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/06/23/a89531 Russian Court Fines Wikipedia Operator Nearly $40K Over ‘P***philia Propaganda’]</li></ul>Just don't give CheckUser to the paper bear, as they could use it to prosecute dissenters. As for the current state of ruwikinews, some of the most recent articles:<ul><li>[[:n:ru:Необычный урок патриотизма провёл русский путешественник-экстремал, вернувшийся из Африки]] ([[:n:ru:Категория:Виктор Пинчук (1969)|author]] writing about himself)</li><li>[[:n:ru:В Крыму, расположенном недалеко от района боевых действий, прошла «Ночь искусств»]]: a Chinese Wikimedian, Sheminghui.WU, interviewing that user. Perhaps something is getting lost in translation, because this is the end of the last answer according to Google translate:</li></ul>{{q|1=From my personal observations, the majority of Crimean residents (myself included) are ethnic Russians. Therefore, there has generally always been a negative attitude toward the imposed "Ukrainianism" here.<br/>I'm not familiar with cultural life in eastern Ukraine or in the towns located along the front lines, but here in Crimea, everything is peaceful. Enemy drones are being shot down by professionally trained specialists.<br/>We will win!<br/>Hakuna matata!<br/>No pasaran!|4=Виктор Пинчук|5=[https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%92_%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BC%D1%83,_%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC_%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%BE%D1%82_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%8B%D1%85_%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B9,_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%BB%D0%B0_%C2%AB%D0%9D%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%8C_%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%C2%BB]}}<br/>derp I have to stop looking at this rabbit hole<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764284255586:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 22:57, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::::Ha, absolutely an area one could spend way too much time digging into, and a very fair point to bring up. Local checkuser has not been given out in the history of Miraheze, and would absolutely be a last resort. While it's a thing we'd ''consider'' if proven necessary, any grants here would have a much higher degree of scrutiny than standard cases given the well-documented hostility of the national actor in question. ::::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 23:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::As Russian Wikinews will also be closed, it will also need a new home. I will wait for their contributors to comment whether they want to do migration together and to the same host. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:04, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :::Correction: *may also be closed [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :Thanks @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]]] and @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] for following this page [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] Dear friend, will other language versions of Wikinews, especially ruwn and zhwn which have more views than enwn, can also be hosted? Thank you. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:48, 29 November 2025 (UTC) ::Yes, we are willing to provide hosting for all language flavors of wikinews should their communities choose to move to our service. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], thank you for your notes. :1. Do you have a comment on @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]]'s concern about trackers? :2. Could you confirm that you do not require content obligations in return, such as, censorship of content or necessitating to include your news on our site? :3. What features do you provide for multilingual content? Currently there are different sysops in each language edition of Wikinews, as they are separate wikis. :Apparently, move needs to happen before May 4 and [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard#Board_of_Trustees_Approves_Closure_of_Wikinews after that date content will be left read-only, here]. I asked whether Wikinews trademark can be used. :Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:56, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::4. In Miraheze can users insert Wikimedia Commons images into new pages? In Wikinews it is possible with same syntax as if it was a local image. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, it is possible to both upload local images and use files from Wikimedia Commons. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::This is cool. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:08, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Cc @[[User:Pppery|Pppery]] thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::# I've asked Rhinos to weigh in on trackers, but generally we collect the minimum data required to operate our service. Information collected in this way is used as described in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy our privacy policy] and is not sent/resold to outside parties. If there are more specific concerns to be discussed, I defer to my tech colleague. ::# We do have some limits on what may be hosted on our service, outlined in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy our content policy]. We also (as a non-profit) cannot host content specifically designed to achieve a political outcome, e.g. supporting a specific candidate or specific legislative action. Beyond these two items, we do not impose any further restrictions on your speech nor will we mandate that specific stories be written. However, it should be made clear, we cannot offer any form of legal cover should authored content result in legal action against the authors by a third party. ::# While we do have the Translate extension, the current structure is likely the cleanest way to continue operating. We do support interwiki/interlanguage linking as well, which can ease connection between versions. ::# Regarding licensing and/or permission for continued use of brand/trademark, that's something the WikiNews community will have to work out with the WMF, we do not negotiate in this way on behalf of our hosted projects. ::I think I've answered everything, but let me know if a question was missed. ::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:26, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Miraheze Tech here. To add to what NotAracham has said, we have [[miraheze:Help:How_to_support_multiple_languages_on_my_wiki|a multi-language guide]] which covers some of the options that are possible on Miraheze: ::# Separate wikis connected via interwiki language links. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are connected via interwiki language links by pointing interwiki links to the same wiki. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are synced with the translate extension. ::# Separate wikis connected via wikibase. I am not aware of any wiki that uses this option, but we do have wikibase available with a few hundred wikis that enabled the extension (whether they use it extensively is another story). I believe this option is what Wikinews uses right now. If there is enough interest, I can see if it is possible to replicate the wikinews setup on Miraheze's wikibase install. ::[[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:36, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::As for trackers, wiki bureaucrats can grant the <code>noanalytics</code> right to everyone (<code>*</code>) with ManageWiki, which will exempt all users from our tracking software (Matomo). I tested it on [https://exttest.mirabeta.org/ Miraheze's extension testing wiki] and am no longer seeing Matomo-related requests for both logged-in and anonymous users. ::With that said, this will only happen on the local wiki. If the user clicks on a link to, for example, the Privacy Policy page which is hosted on Miraheze Meta, they will be subject to the tracker again since it is on a different wiki. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 23:17, 30 March 2026 (UTC) Question; would it be possible to mirrow this wiki, so when i make an edit here, it is also automatically made at Miraheze from my account; is it possible to allow users to login using OAuth so that they do not need to register a new account; what testing is required for a custom extension to be installed on site; where is it located geographically. Does it remain free of charge. how does this organization generate income. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:10, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :# Going to consider this question moot as the WMF-hosted service will go read-only in near future. As mentioned elsewhere, we can assist with attributing edits to the MH-equivalent users following migration where there's interest in doing so. :# We utilize CentralAuth as our account infrastructure, users need only one account for any wiki hosted on our platform. Services can verify the MH account through OAuth as well. We do not, however, support OAuth for Wikimedia project accounts on our platform, a Miraheze account will need to be created. :# Custom extensions will need to go through our security review process, and will generally need to demonstrate some form of global usefulness to be considered for approval. :# We are based out of the United States of America and incorporated in the state of Idaho, the majority of our hardware infrastructure is located in the Salt lake City, Utah area. :# We are a 501(c)3 nonprofit charitable organization, we do not and will not charge for our service, the majority of our funds come from individual user donations. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances are public information], as are our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget/2026 annual budgets]. :--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:44, 30 March 2026 (UTC) In my opinion, miraheze is the most viable path forwards for wikinews. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) IMO moving Wikinews to Miraheze is just swapping one centralized authority for another. You're not fixing the problem, you're relocating it. Instead of the Wikimedia Foundation, you end up under Miraheze's policies, infrastructure, and admins. Different host, same dependency. If Wikinews is supposed to be a truly independent, community-driven news platform, then it needs its own infrastructure and governance - not another host that can pull the plug or change the rules whenever it wants. We don't even know if Miraheze can reliably handle a project of this scale (enwikinews only? all active language versions?). What infrastructure do they actually have? What guarantees are there for long-term stability, performance, and uptime? Calling this a solution is just self-deception. [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 06:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :The existing Wikinews community lacks the capability to do better than Miraheze or even come close. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Loyal opposition here. Sorry your project is closing, I hope you perhaps consider my suggestion to transition to a more news-magazine inspired format on whatever your new host is. But I agree with Bawolff. To quote the former administrator of Earth: May I remind you that the alternative, if it can be called that, is total extinction? [[User:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[User talk:Dronebogus|talk]]) 13:12, 2 April 2026 (UTC) No opinion on whether English (and others, except for ru) Wikinews should go to Miraheze, but certainly '''oppose migration of [[:ru:|ru.WN]] to Miraheze'''. Not exactly sure about conditions as of 2026, but the farm was long known to be dominated by English speakers and had zero representation of the Slavs in its establishment. Their staffers botched and failed import of Absurdopedia (the Russian Uncyclopedia), which eventually became self-hosted. <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> had some ugly interactions with Mirahezeans, myself. Meanwhile it generally is a respectable farm and <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> hold specifically {{u|John F. Lewis}}, who made a good job, in respect. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:31, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :Ironic, given the controversies surrounding John (He has a history of abusing positions of trust and got himself office banned from all Wikimedia projects). Regardless, is there another serious offer on the table? Otherwise Miraheze wins by default. Like you've made some comments that imply you might be willing to offer hosting or at least work on this. Are you actually offering to host Wikinews? Does this offer come with strings or financial requirements? Unless other offers materialize with details, it kind of seems like the choice is Miraheze or nothing. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 05:14, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::What would the hardware requirements be for hosting WikiNews? Could the administrators WN provide some more specific information? [[User:Charmeleon69|Charmeleon69]] ([[User talk:Charmeleon69|talk]]) 06:53, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::: Commented [[#hardware|here]] because this isn’t a proper thread. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) = 2. Volunteers willing to pay for new hosting. This can be from charities, Wikimedia Charters, or personal expenses. = I would volunteer towards hosting costs. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :This will not work in my opinion. After all, that's the approach taken for wn-reporters and email, and I think it's safe to say that it hasn't been successful. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 16:32, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::The lowest cost I am aware of would be 25 USD per month, so 300 USD per year. Though it sounds like Miraheze maybe free and I know a few Wikipedians are on their board. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:51, 18 December 2025 (UTC) : If hosting is going to be paid for, I think a new, non-profit organization should be formed, to to handle funding and oversight. If hosting is paid for by one or more individuals who are not organized under a charter or governing structure, it creates obvious risks: lack of accountability, unclear ownership, and potential instability if those individuals step away or disagree. : Forming a new non-profit may be a wise choice even if free hosting is used.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 10:48, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::Based on the [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Public_consultation_about_Wikinews#c-Sj-20260401032800-Victoria-20260330090000 latest developments], it seems that Wikimedia New York City may take on the future stewardship of Wikinews. That would also mean it is managed by an organization and a non-profit. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:27, 3 April 2026 (UTC) = 3. Volunteers willing to do budgeting and acounting: find out how much this will cost. = *I would contribute towards budget efforts .[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) *I might be willing to make a small donation to these efforts, but in terms of time -- I'm not too sure. I intend to take this time to (mostly) step away from most News wiki activities and do a bit of introspection. It's been about 16 years. I want to take a careful look at time/priorities etc.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:45, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:51, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *I suggest opening a donation channel at that time; I can also contribute a spare change. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 06:18, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks Sheminghui [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:59, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *::Do you folks have an NGO yet? If you dont would recommend the USA as the location to be based as fund raising from their is easiest and becoming a 503(c) is not that hard. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:49, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 4. System administration to install software and work around security vulnerabilities = I would contribute towards admin tasks including Linux system administration and MediaWiki [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :Can users use Wikipedia login on an externally hosted wiki? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :: In principle yes you could use OAuth for something like that. One example is at https://mdwiki.org, although in that case they only pre-approve accounts you could configure it differently. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 03:55, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anyway can use OAuth to log onto MDWiki with their Wikipedia user name, but you can only edit a couple of pages (your user page and a request for editing page) until you are granted editing privileges. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:46, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :In response to [[ru:User talk:Alexis Jazz#Hello]]: [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], I have no strong ties to Wikinews. Also no knowledge of ru which seems to be the largest wikinews language. And I've always wondered how a news website in wiki form could realistically work as articles likely go stale before they can get improved through the magic of wiki. From the looks of it, this is still an issue.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>Generally I'm happy to answer some questions, but actually coding for and maintaining a Wikinews successor would be a major undertaking which is not really for me.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764267275161:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::Okay thank you [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]]. What makes improving articles so difficult in wiki? What solution would you suggest? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:00, 29 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], hire some paid editors to write and publish [[w:en:wp:stub|stubs]] for all major news stories throughout the day. That way the site becomes functional as a news source, and the bar to improve a stub is lower than the bar to create an article from scratch. But I don't know who'd be willing to pay for such a thing. Volunteers tend to only write about subjects they care about, and nobody cares about ''everything''. Combined with the presence of a [[w:en:Wikipedia:There is no deadline|deadline]], as news needs to be published before it turns into [[wikt:olds#Noun 2|olds]], it makes a general news wiki very difficult to maintain with just volunteers whose time and interests are limited.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764428567237:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 15:02, 29 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::::Maybe news companies could sponsor these editors, and then copy the finished products for their outlets? [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 15:42, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::::i was thinking a tool could at least help with handling the markup if not picking the news events themselves [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:37, 11 December 2025 (UTC) : <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> can do some Unix, SQL, HTTPd and MediaWiki job. <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> am the technical director of cyclowiki.org for 4 years. IMHO using Wikimedia SULs on a non-Wikimedia site is a poor choice (not only technically, but in other respects too). [[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 09:08, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]], is it possible though? And what issues would it cause? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:38, 11 December 2025 (UTC) :::It is possible. We at MDWiki do it and we are happy with the results. But than our work is fairly integrated into the Wikipedia work. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:48, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :: <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> hereby remind of my four-months-old proposal, although am too busy specifically next several days to do anything of value. Give me a Unix shell or an SQL access and <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> won’t fail you. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 15:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::: Incnis Mrsi is a highly qualified and helpful contributor who has been supporting cyclowiki.org for many years. He's always ready to help in difficult situations, even when many prefer to sit back or remain silent. He's always willing to engage with a wide range of participants and develop any constructive ideas. I think his proposal is worth supporting. [[User:Serebr|Serebr]] ([[User talk:Serebr|talk]]) 03:17, 1 April 2026 (UTC) = 5. Name = No idea if same trademark can be used... [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] as you asked above, FYI there was fork of Wikinews in past, one was called OpenGlobe. If it is same people working on it then I do not mind, any name. For example [[:w:freenode]] moved to [[:w:Libera]] with a name change and successfully moved over 80% of tens thousands users to new site. It would be good to confirm that. Another aspect is in Question 4 whether users will need to register new account. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:54, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::I don't think Miraheze would allow IP's actually Miraheze is a '''wiki farm host'''. Sorry for the excessive pings, @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:58, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fandom_(website) [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:02, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anonymous editing can be enabled or disabled through ManageWiki on Miraheze which is normally open to all crats. ManageWiki is an easy to use extension we built so you can manage some config from on wiki. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::If we move forward with this migration, we will need a new name and logo. ::Any user from here will be able to create an account on the new Wikinews instance on Miraheze. But, there is no automatic way to transfer all existing users with us. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::If Miraheze is chosen, we will work with you guys to ensure you can claim imported edits and have them attributed to a future Miraheze accounts. Of course, you'll need to sign up again. We won't be able to transfer any user preferences or anything from Wikimedia. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: What happens with edits made by users who choose not to join the fork? If they are left as-is, are there processes in place to ensure those usernames are unavailable? For example, If I choose not to join the fork, are all of my current edits still attributed to my username and is that username essentially "taken" on Miraheze so that others can't register my name and claim my edits?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:47, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::::They would show an interwiki link back to the archived wikinews. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 15:22, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::This is correct, while edit history can be 'attributed' to Miraheze accounts created following a migration, we don't have a way to reserve usernames/migrate wikimedia logins automatically - it will require individual registration. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: Have you tried implementing OAuth for wikimedia accounts? [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :We have asked Wikimedia what rules would have to be followed if a migration did take place with regard to trademarks. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you all @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::: Related: the broader Wikimedia community should weigh in on where to redirect Wikinews traffic. This is one of the strongest reasons to try something new at the current domains. I would hope the domain is put to use supporting an active community news effort, wherever it is hosted; historical pages can redirect. Unfortunately all of the news-related forks or comparables I know of also closed for lack of activity... [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) There are tools built into mediawiki ie [[Special:Import]] that allows the entire history from one wiki to be moved to another. Lower on [https://mdwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Gout&action=history&offset=&limit=500 this page] you can see what it looks like. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:44, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 6. Other = A small comment I'd like to make is that most interwiki-links on Wikinews (as far as I can see) are the same on Miraheze. (See: [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki Special:Interwiki]) As far as I can tell, this would not affect any of the Wikinews articles, when they are moved to Miraheze. [[User:Rodejong|Rodejong]] ([[User talk:Rodejong|talk]]) 11:50, 28 November 2025 (UTC) = 7. Wikifarm requirements, classes of hosting = One of the sticking points in discussions about the future of Wikinews was what level of hosting and customization was supported or expected; WMF having a high minimum bar for supporting production servers [and hosting all servers on shared infrastructure where a change to one site can throttle or take down others]. A number of community projects have indicated that, e.g., WM Cloud Services is not great for hosting an actively edited wikifarm. But if a number of free knowledge projects need a wiki farm with good archival practices, it might make sense for this to change, or to have an official partnership b/t WMF or the WM affiliate network and such a group. To this end, defining the needed level of service provision (including multilingual support) would be a good step. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:12, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :Would WMCloud be allowed here? WMCloud is supposed to be related to a wikimedia project, if Wikinews gets shutdown its no longer a wikinews project. That said, WM Cloud is probably sufficient to host a wiki the size of Wikinews even with active editing, but it would require sysadmins who know how to manage mediawiki. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :: This question came up in another thread; even if this is possible it would be good to know exactly what level of service is needed for a neutral wikifarm like Miraheze to host WN, what that costs, &c. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 01:13, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::Having already done some discussions and sizing, while the larger news wikis would be substantial adds, none would surpass the larger projects already on our service and we have plenty of capacity to take the entire fleet of Wikinews language families should we be selected. The Miraheze of 2026 is running on a much-improved infrastructure stack over what some might be familiar with from a few years back. :::Miraheze would not impose a charge to act as host, but as a donor-driven platform, donations are always welcome to help us keep pace with expanding demand. :) Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances] and [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget budgets] are public for those interested. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:56, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::::@[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], just throwing it out there but any '''start date''' or url? Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:31, 5 April 2026 (UTC) {{anchor|hardware}}Requirements depend on the fate of the old news. Minor requirements while Wikimedia keeps the archives, but Wikinews would need to maintain or rent a strong database management system if Wikimedia ejects all WN wikis (including the past content, especially of the Russian Wikinews) completely. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) =[[MDWiki:Main_Page]]= We forked health content to MDWiki a few years ago. With respect to cost each Wiki is about 25 to 40 USD/month and this includes updates, sys admin stuff, and security. One gets 10 GB of SDD space and then it is 1$ per GB after that. You get 100 GB of bandwidth after whic it is 0.05$ per GB. Specialied software work is about 100$ per hour but they have limited capacity for this work. With respect to using the name and logo, if you have consensus here to all go in the same direction, I would be supportive. If folks want to go in different directions than things would be a bit more complicated. Do you want to move all languages to a single wiki (less expensive) or keep each language in its own wiki? We use SkizNet which is USA based. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:38, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :Do you have a comment how come Miraheze provides hosting for free, @[[User:Doc James|Doc James]]? Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:32, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: They are also volunteer-based and rely on donations from users to run their servers. See also: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/FAQ -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Like anything else, if you want to do something custom or boss people around you need to pay for it. Miraheze hosting is more similar to WMF hosting where its solid but they aren't going to suddenly bend to your whims if you dont like the existing choices. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:37, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Everyone please check this out! Thank you. == https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/78142 I have requested a new English Wikinews. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :While I appreciate your interest in Miraheze. I do not think it is wise to make a unilateral move when the community is still weighing on the best hosting option. There is still more than a month of time to decide. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Sorry but im pretty sure they have decided. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:45, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], While I appreciate the enthusiasm for saving this project, I'll reiterate Petra - users ''should not'' request a wikinews fork at Miraheze on behalf of the project while discussion is ongoing and we are still waiting for WMF clearance on branding, especially if the person making the request isn't currently an administrator/crat on the wikinews project they're requesting it for. :::While your intentions are good, this will be interpreted as hostile forking and will be declined/deleted. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 04:58, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree with others. Things are still uncertain regarding the migration. When and how it will take place. The community is still discussing it, so please be patient. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:40, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == How to get the entire enwn backed up? == CC @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] -- Hi, does anyone know how I can get the backup of the entire enwn (along with history, local files, logs -- what have you) so that I can keep a copy of it on my local system, and perhaps run it via, say a docker setup? I'd appreciate it if someone could help me with this.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 09:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :https://dumps.wikimedia.org/ —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:18, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Would you be able to guide me how to run it locally, perhaps? [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 12:07, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :I don’t think the dumps page contains the data for logs or other non page info (may be wrong, if so I’d be glad for someone to correct me). There is probably a way to get this considering replica’s of the databases containing all information for a wiki are publicly accessible, but that may be more involved. I also don’t believe images are provided as an easy dump, but there are pieces of software that can create backups of all page content and images (https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/WikiTeam being the main one). I intend to probably run a dump of the wikinewses closer to the read only date and have it uploaded to the Internet Archive, assuming WikiTeam or someone else doesn’t do so first. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 12:47, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Dumps server contains multiple files with a variety of data. I think the only thing really missing is user data and anything that has been deleted/oversighted. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 17:14, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :::What does user data mean? I won't care about the IP logs, nor should that be publicly available -- but say the scripts that pizero worked on -- lack of that might break the functionality. But does that mean the dumps can recreate the entire wiki? And also, dumps.wm has nothing after 26.01 -- is it not updated monthly? If so, will it be available post May 4.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 17:27, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::::It doesn't have your password, email,user preferences, that sort of thing. If its non-public information its not in the dumps. I'm not sure what the update frequency is. I think its slower than monthly. I imagine its documented somewhere. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 18:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) == Clarification: WM NYC and Miraheze joint bid and requests on Miraheze == Hello all, as mentioned [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts#Current_Updates on Meta-wiki], WM NYC and Miraheze representatives are in joint discussions with WMF on a potential bid for an approved revival of the Wikinews projects with permission to utilize the same name and branding. While the community's enthusiasm for saving the project is appreciated and understood (hell, I've saved a project from the Fandom memory-hole myself), Miraheze '''''will not approve any new project requests from individuals (especially those who are not admins or crats on the language-specific WN projects)''''' until we have clear and full signoff from the WMF. Thank you for your patience while discussions are ongoing. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:40, 5 April 2026 (UTC) bad96wonk9nnrqsfds1q0ymkt8eu3j6 5005321 5005170 2026-04-06T07:45:34Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* 2. Volunteers willing to pay for new hosting. This can be from charities, Wikimedia Charters, or personal expenses. */ reply to Asked42 ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5005321 wikitext text/x-wiki <center> <big> Please share your opinion regarding the migration on Meta at [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. </big> </center> = 1. Name and geographical location of new hosting. = I have no idea about this, please advise. How can this be done when half of users have slow internet and are geographically dispersed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :A Meta page has been created for discussion about the migration. Please share your votes and comments there. [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:57, 31 March 2026 (UTC) === Miraheze === :Maybe we could consider migrating to https://miraheze.org/. Their Meta page is here: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Meta. :They provide free hosting, although I am not sure whether we would need to purchase our own domain name. They also do not run advertisements and operate entirely on donations. :However, a major clarification is required: If Wikinews is closed, will the WMF also relinquish copyright to the name 'Wikinews' and its logo? If not, I'm not sure how we could proceed. Perhaps someone with legal knowledge, or someone from the WMF, could advise on this? -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:13, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::Is it easy to install our own mediawiki extensions there. Do they provide shell access. The name question is in section 5 below. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:52, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, almost all MediaWiki extensions are available there. There are also users with strong MediaWiki knowledge who can help us move forward technically. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: "almost all MediaWiki extensions" is an exaggeration. But it is true that Miraheze is significantly more willing to install new extensions than Wikimedia is: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Extensions is an incomplete list. Miraheze, while they won't provide you shell access, will let you self-service many things that require shell access on Wikimedia, such as config changes - they have a fairly flexible https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ManageWiki interface. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 03:53, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::::True. What I mean is at least enough to support Wikinews or such that Wikinews is going to need. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:18, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Miraheze might be our last good option just saying. @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:55, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Also, everyone, the WMF board has '''not yet''' made a final decision, and the current community opinion is mostly in our favor, so please don't give up participating in various discussions on metawiki. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 01:02, 1 December 2025 (UTC) ::::They will close WikiNews tomorrow. All pages will be read-only. I can register the wiki at https://wikinews.miraheze.org, if you would like. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:24, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::::To reiterate NotAracham’s comment in this thread, while Miraheze is very willing to provide hosting to Wikinews, we ask that the actual wiki request be submitted by a bureaucrat (or representative of WikiNYC if the WN community choses to pursue an arrangement with them). With all due respect, for the sake of clarify and not making things more confusing for the Wikinews community, we won’t be accepting one-off requests by users that don’t have the backing of the community’s consensus. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 21:26, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::I personally oppose the usage of Miraheze because it contains trackers that are hard for users to disable. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 16:04, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]], what are they tracking and how does this work? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::I forget the exact details because I wrote that message nearly 5 months ago, but I think that it's some sort of analytics ping that you need to block at the browser or DNS level. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 12:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::::We collect minimal aggregate tracking data through cookies for cloudflare + matomo analytics as well as session persistence, @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] would be better positioned to answer this. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy Privacy Policy] also covers our 'when and how' for usage of this data. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::If all other measures fail... we might have to try [[w:Fandom (website)|Fandom]]. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:59, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], Wikimedia is hosted in the US due to favorable freedom of speech and copyright laws. A [[w:Content delivery network]] can improve performance around the world, though that doesn't accelerate dynamic content served to users who are logged in. See [[m:Wikimedia servers]] for example.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764267938397:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:25, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> Hi folks, this is NotAracham, Director of Trust & Safety at Miraheze. We've reviewed internally and are confident that we will be able to offer hosting (from both a policy and technical standpoint) should you choose to select us once things are worked out with the WMF. I and my colleagues are happy to answer any questions the WikiNews community might have towards reaching a decision. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :You are a life saver thank you @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:16, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I think we should wait until the final decision of the Board, and if it ultimately is about closing, then I have no objection to migrate. This would be the best second possibility after Wikinews is not getting closed. Thank you for your help. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 19:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Agreed, Miraheze can save us for backup plan @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:26, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I'm an Infrastructure engineer for Miraheze and am also watching this page. You can also find me on Libera.Chat (in both #wikinews and #miraheze) or Discord if you have questions. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], it would probably be a good idea to clarify whether you are talking about English Wikinews or all Wikinews language variants. Also note that ruwikinews has on the order of 1000x more articles than most other language editions. Can Miraheze deal with [[:w:en:Russian web brigades]] ?<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764272830948:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 19:47, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::Agreed, we need to focus on English Wikinews. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:59, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Technically, I don't think any of them would be an issue. From a counter vandalism perspective, we would look to how we could support any wiki and make sure you have the tools available that you need. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 20:03, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::I'll defer to my tech colleagues on our technical capacity to host, though the general opinion seems that it would be well within possibility to host the full spectrum of languages if they choose to move to our service. Regarding the counter-vandalism aspect, our service uses Cloudflare (for both default and custom domains) to mitigate DDoS attempts, which has proven unfortunately necessary with some past antagonists. While we have an existing global CVT team to handle the more routine on-wiki trouble, we only have so many members with limited time to offer. It sounds like the Russian wikinews is one of the rare scenarios where it'd be prudent to assign some members of their moderation team [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/CheckUser#Permission delegated local CheckUser]. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 20:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], first let me declare that I don't know for sure how ruwikinews is doing currently. But you should be very careful before assigning CheckUser to anyone involved with Russian projects. The paper bear is certainly interested:<ul><li>[https://fortune.com/europe/2023/04/14/moscow-court-fines-wikipedia-refusing-remove-russia-language-article-invasion-ukraine/ Moscow court fines Wikipedia for refusing to remove a Russian-language article about the invasion of Ukraine]</li><li>[https://www.reuters.com/technology/russia-threatens-fine-wikipedia-if-it-doesnt-delete-false-information-2022-04-05/ Russia threatens to fine Wikipedia if it doesn't delete 'false information']</li><li>[https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/06/23/a89531 Russian Court Fines Wikipedia Operator Nearly $40K Over ‘P***philia Propaganda’]</li></ul>Just don't give CheckUser to the paper bear, as they could use it to prosecute dissenters. As for the current state of ruwikinews, some of the most recent articles:<ul><li>[[:n:ru:Необычный урок патриотизма провёл русский путешественник-экстремал, вернувшийся из Африки]] ([[:n:ru:Категория:Виктор Пинчук (1969)|author]] writing about himself)</li><li>[[:n:ru:В Крыму, расположенном недалеко от района боевых действий, прошла «Ночь искусств»]]: a Chinese Wikimedian, Sheminghui.WU, interviewing that user. Perhaps something is getting lost in translation, because this is the end of the last answer according to Google translate:</li></ul>{{q|1=From my personal observations, the majority of Crimean residents (myself included) are ethnic Russians. Therefore, there has generally always been a negative attitude toward the imposed "Ukrainianism" here.<br/>I'm not familiar with cultural life in eastern Ukraine or in the towns located along the front lines, but here in Crimea, everything is peaceful. Enemy drones are being shot down by professionally trained specialists.<br/>We will win!<br/>Hakuna matata!<br/>No pasaran!|4=Виктор Пинчук|5=[https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%92_%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BC%D1%83,_%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC_%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%BE%D1%82_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%8B%D1%85_%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B9,_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%BB%D0%B0_%C2%AB%D0%9D%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%8C_%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%C2%BB]}}<br/>derp I have to stop looking at this rabbit hole<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764284255586:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 22:57, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::::Ha, absolutely an area one could spend way too much time digging into, and a very fair point to bring up. Local checkuser has not been given out in the history of Miraheze, and would absolutely be a last resort. While it's a thing we'd ''consider'' if proven necessary, any grants here would have a much higher degree of scrutiny than standard cases given the well-documented hostility of the national actor in question. ::::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 23:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::As Russian Wikinews will also be closed, it will also need a new home. I will wait for their contributors to comment whether they want to do migration together and to the same host. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:04, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :::Correction: *may also be closed [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :Thanks @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]]] and @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] for following this page [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] Dear friend, will other language versions of Wikinews, especially ruwn and zhwn which have more views than enwn, can also be hosted? Thank you. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:48, 29 November 2025 (UTC) ::Yes, we are willing to provide hosting for all language flavors of wikinews should their communities choose to move to our service. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], thank you for your notes. :1. Do you have a comment on @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]]'s concern about trackers? :2. Could you confirm that you do not require content obligations in return, such as, censorship of content or necessitating to include your news on our site? :3. What features do you provide for multilingual content? Currently there are different sysops in each language edition of Wikinews, as they are separate wikis. :Apparently, move needs to happen before May 4 and [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard#Board_of_Trustees_Approves_Closure_of_Wikinews after that date content will be left read-only, here]. I asked whether Wikinews trademark can be used. :Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:56, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::4. In Miraheze can users insert Wikimedia Commons images into new pages? In Wikinews it is possible with same syntax as if it was a local image. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, it is possible to both upload local images and use files from Wikimedia Commons. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::This is cool. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:08, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Cc @[[User:Pppery|Pppery]] thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::# I've asked Rhinos to weigh in on trackers, but generally we collect the minimum data required to operate our service. Information collected in this way is used as described in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy our privacy policy] and is not sent/resold to outside parties. If there are more specific concerns to be discussed, I defer to my tech colleague. ::# We do have some limits on what may be hosted on our service, outlined in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy our content policy]. We also (as a non-profit) cannot host content specifically designed to achieve a political outcome, e.g. supporting a specific candidate or specific legislative action. Beyond these two items, we do not impose any further restrictions on your speech nor will we mandate that specific stories be written. However, it should be made clear, we cannot offer any form of legal cover should authored content result in legal action against the authors by a third party. ::# While we do have the Translate extension, the current structure is likely the cleanest way to continue operating. We do support interwiki/interlanguage linking as well, which can ease connection between versions. ::# Regarding licensing and/or permission for continued use of brand/trademark, that's something the WikiNews community will have to work out with the WMF, we do not negotiate in this way on behalf of our hosted projects. ::I think I've answered everything, but let me know if a question was missed. ::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:26, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Miraheze Tech here. To add to what NotAracham has said, we have [[miraheze:Help:How_to_support_multiple_languages_on_my_wiki|a multi-language guide]] which covers some of the options that are possible on Miraheze: ::# Separate wikis connected via interwiki language links. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are connected via interwiki language links by pointing interwiki links to the same wiki. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are synced with the translate extension. ::# Separate wikis connected via wikibase. I am not aware of any wiki that uses this option, but we do have wikibase available with a few hundred wikis that enabled the extension (whether they use it extensively is another story). I believe this option is what Wikinews uses right now. If there is enough interest, I can see if it is possible to replicate the wikinews setup on Miraheze's wikibase install. ::[[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:36, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::As for trackers, wiki bureaucrats can grant the <code>noanalytics</code> right to everyone (<code>*</code>) with ManageWiki, which will exempt all users from our tracking software (Matomo). I tested it on [https://exttest.mirabeta.org/ Miraheze's extension testing wiki] and am no longer seeing Matomo-related requests for both logged-in and anonymous users. ::With that said, this will only happen on the local wiki. If the user clicks on a link to, for example, the Privacy Policy page which is hosted on Miraheze Meta, they will be subject to the tracker again since it is on a different wiki. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 23:17, 30 March 2026 (UTC) Question; would it be possible to mirrow this wiki, so when i make an edit here, it is also automatically made at Miraheze from my account; is it possible to allow users to login using OAuth so that they do not need to register a new account; what testing is required for a custom extension to be installed on site; where is it located geographically. Does it remain free of charge. how does this organization generate income. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:10, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :# Going to consider this question moot as the WMF-hosted service will go read-only in near future. As mentioned elsewhere, we can assist with attributing edits to the MH-equivalent users following migration where there's interest in doing so. :# We utilize CentralAuth as our account infrastructure, users need only one account for any wiki hosted on our platform. Services can verify the MH account through OAuth as well. We do not, however, support OAuth for Wikimedia project accounts on our platform, a Miraheze account will need to be created. :# Custom extensions will need to go through our security review process, and will generally need to demonstrate some form of global usefulness to be considered for approval. :# We are based out of the United States of America and incorporated in the state of Idaho, the majority of our hardware infrastructure is located in the Salt lake City, Utah area. :# We are a 501(c)3 nonprofit charitable organization, we do not and will not charge for our service, the majority of our funds come from individual user donations. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances are public information], as are our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget/2026 annual budgets]. :--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:44, 30 March 2026 (UTC) In my opinion, miraheze is the most viable path forwards for wikinews. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) IMO moving Wikinews to Miraheze is just swapping one centralized authority for another. You're not fixing the problem, you're relocating it. Instead of the Wikimedia Foundation, you end up under Miraheze's policies, infrastructure, and admins. Different host, same dependency. If Wikinews is supposed to be a truly independent, community-driven news platform, then it needs its own infrastructure and governance - not another host that can pull the plug or change the rules whenever it wants. We don't even know if Miraheze can reliably handle a project of this scale (enwikinews only? all active language versions?). What infrastructure do they actually have? What guarantees are there for long-term stability, performance, and uptime? Calling this a solution is just self-deception. [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 06:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :The existing Wikinews community lacks the capability to do better than Miraheze or even come close. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Loyal opposition here. Sorry your project is closing, I hope you perhaps consider my suggestion to transition to a more news-magazine inspired format on whatever your new host is. But I agree with Bawolff. To quote the former administrator of Earth: May I remind you that the alternative, if it can be called that, is total extinction? [[User:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[User talk:Dronebogus|talk]]) 13:12, 2 April 2026 (UTC) No opinion on whether English (and others, except for ru) Wikinews should go to Miraheze, but certainly '''oppose migration of [[:ru:|ru.WN]] to Miraheze'''. Not exactly sure about conditions as of 2026, but the farm was long known to be dominated by English speakers and had zero representation of the Slavs in its establishment. Their staffers botched and failed import of Absurdopedia (the Russian Uncyclopedia), which eventually became self-hosted. <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> had some ugly interactions with Mirahezeans, myself. Meanwhile it generally is a respectable farm and <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> hold specifically {{u|John F. Lewis}}, who made a good job, in respect. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:31, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :Ironic, given the controversies surrounding John (He has a history of abusing positions of trust and got himself office banned from all Wikimedia projects). Regardless, is there another serious offer on the table? Otherwise Miraheze wins by default. Like you've made some comments that imply you might be willing to offer hosting or at least work on this. Are you actually offering to host Wikinews? Does this offer come with strings or financial requirements? Unless other offers materialize with details, it kind of seems like the choice is Miraheze or nothing. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 05:14, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::What would the hardware requirements be for hosting WikiNews? Could the administrators WN provide some more specific information? [[User:Charmeleon69|Charmeleon69]] ([[User talk:Charmeleon69|talk]]) 06:53, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::: Commented [[#hardware|here]] because this isn’t a proper thread. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) = 2. Volunteers willing to pay for new hosting. This can be from charities, Wikimedia Charters, or personal expenses. = I would volunteer towards hosting costs. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :This will not work in my opinion. After all, that's the approach taken for wn-reporters and email, and I think it's safe to say that it hasn't been successful. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 16:32, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::The lowest cost I am aware of would be 25 USD per month, so 300 USD per year. Though it sounds like Miraheze maybe free and I know a few Wikipedians are on their board. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:51, 18 December 2025 (UTC) : If hosting is going to be paid for, I think a new, non-profit organization should be formed, to to handle funding and oversight. If hosting is paid for by one or more individuals who are not organized under a charter or governing structure, it creates obvious risks: lack of accountability, unclear ownership, and potential instability if those individuals step away or disagree. : Forming a new non-profit may be a wise choice even if free hosting is used.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 10:48, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::Based on the [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Public_consultation_about_Wikinews#c-Sj-20260401032800-Victoria-20260330090000 latest developments], it seems that Wikimedia New York City may take on the future stewardship of Wikinews. That would also mean it is managed by an organization and a non-profit. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:27, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::: [[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] [[Wikinews talk:Migration#c-NotAracham-20260405165600-Sj-20260403011300|noted below]] {{tq|Miraheze would not impose a charge to act as host, but as a donor-driven platform, donations are always welcome to help us keep pace with expanding demand.}} ::: That reduces immediate financial pressure on any new organization. It does not address the more fundamental issue. Without the structural oversight and constraints provided by the Wikimedia Foundation, I do not see a viable path forward for en.WN. In its current state, the project has not demonstrated the capacity for consistent and productive self-regulation. ::: If Wikimedia NYC is to assume “stewardship” of Wikinews, that role needs to be clearly defined before any decision to migrate. Specifically, the scope of its authority, responsibilities, and limits should be made explicit to the community. It is also unclear how this arrangement would differ in practice from the current relationship with the Wikimedia Foundation, given that Wikimedia NYC is an affiliated chapter.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 07:45, 6 April 2026 (UTC) = 3. Volunteers willing to do budgeting and acounting: find out how much this will cost. = *I would contribute towards budget efforts .[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) *I might be willing to make a small donation to these efforts, but in terms of time -- I'm not too sure. I intend to take this time to (mostly) step away from most News wiki activities and do a bit of introspection. It's been about 16 years. I want to take a careful look at time/priorities etc.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:45, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:51, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *I suggest opening a donation channel at that time; I can also contribute a spare change. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 06:18, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks Sheminghui [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:59, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *::Do you folks have an NGO yet? If you dont would recommend the USA as the location to be based as fund raising from their is easiest and becoming a 503(c) is not that hard. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:49, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 4. System administration to install software and work around security vulnerabilities = I would contribute towards admin tasks including Linux system administration and MediaWiki [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :Can users use Wikipedia login on an externally hosted wiki? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :: In principle yes you could use OAuth for something like that. One example is at https://mdwiki.org, although in that case they only pre-approve accounts you could configure it differently. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 03:55, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anyway can use OAuth to log onto MDWiki with their Wikipedia user name, but you can only edit a couple of pages (your user page and a request for editing page) until you are granted editing privileges. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:46, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :In response to [[ru:User talk:Alexis Jazz#Hello]]: [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], I have no strong ties to Wikinews. Also no knowledge of ru which seems to be the largest wikinews language. And I've always wondered how a news website in wiki form could realistically work as articles likely go stale before they can get improved through the magic of wiki. From the looks of it, this is still an issue.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>Generally I'm happy to answer some questions, but actually coding for and maintaining a Wikinews successor would be a major undertaking which is not really for me.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764267275161:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::Okay thank you [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]]. What makes improving articles so difficult in wiki? What solution would you suggest? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:00, 29 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], hire some paid editors to write and publish [[w:en:wp:stub|stubs]] for all major news stories throughout the day. That way the site becomes functional as a news source, and the bar to improve a stub is lower than the bar to create an article from scratch. But I don't know who'd be willing to pay for such a thing. Volunteers tend to only write about subjects they care about, and nobody cares about ''everything''. Combined with the presence of a [[w:en:Wikipedia:There is no deadline|deadline]], as news needs to be published before it turns into [[wikt:olds#Noun 2|olds]], it makes a general news wiki very difficult to maintain with just volunteers whose time and interests are limited.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764428567237:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 15:02, 29 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::::Maybe news companies could sponsor these editors, and then copy the finished products for their outlets? [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 15:42, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::::i was thinking a tool could at least help with handling the markup if not picking the news events themselves [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:37, 11 December 2025 (UTC) : <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> can do some Unix, SQL, HTTPd and MediaWiki job. <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> am the technical director of cyclowiki.org for 4 years. IMHO using Wikimedia SULs on a non-Wikimedia site is a poor choice (not only technically, but in other respects too). [[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 09:08, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]], is it possible though? And what issues would it cause? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:38, 11 December 2025 (UTC) :::It is possible. We at MDWiki do it and we are happy with the results. But than our work is fairly integrated into the Wikipedia work. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:48, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :: <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> hereby remind of my four-months-old proposal, although am too busy specifically next several days to do anything of value. Give me a Unix shell or an SQL access and <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> won’t fail you. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 15:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::: Incnis Mrsi is a highly qualified and helpful contributor who has been supporting cyclowiki.org for many years. He's always ready to help in difficult situations, even when many prefer to sit back or remain silent. He's always willing to engage with a wide range of participants and develop any constructive ideas. I think his proposal is worth supporting. [[User:Serebr|Serebr]] ([[User talk:Serebr|talk]]) 03:17, 1 April 2026 (UTC) = 5. Name = No idea if same trademark can be used... [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] as you asked above, FYI there was fork of Wikinews in past, one was called OpenGlobe. If it is same people working on it then I do not mind, any name. For example [[:w:freenode]] moved to [[:w:Libera]] with a name change and successfully moved over 80% of tens thousands users to new site. It would be good to confirm that. Another aspect is in Question 4 whether users will need to register new account. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:54, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::I don't think Miraheze would allow IP's actually Miraheze is a '''wiki farm host'''. Sorry for the excessive pings, @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:58, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fandom_(website) [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:02, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anonymous editing can be enabled or disabled through ManageWiki on Miraheze which is normally open to all crats. ManageWiki is an easy to use extension we built so you can manage some config from on wiki. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::If we move forward with this migration, we will need a new name and logo. ::Any user from here will be able to create an account on the new Wikinews instance on Miraheze. But, there is no automatic way to transfer all existing users with us. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::If Miraheze is chosen, we will work with you guys to ensure you can claim imported edits and have them attributed to a future Miraheze accounts. Of course, you'll need to sign up again. We won't be able to transfer any user preferences or anything from Wikimedia. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: What happens with edits made by users who choose not to join the fork? If they are left as-is, are there processes in place to ensure those usernames are unavailable? For example, If I choose not to join the fork, are all of my current edits still attributed to my username and is that username essentially "taken" on Miraheze so that others can't register my name and claim my edits?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:47, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::::They would show an interwiki link back to the archived wikinews. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 15:22, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::This is correct, while edit history can be 'attributed' to Miraheze accounts created following a migration, we don't have a way to reserve usernames/migrate wikimedia logins automatically - it will require individual registration. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: Have you tried implementing OAuth for wikimedia accounts? [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :We have asked Wikimedia what rules would have to be followed if a migration did take place with regard to trademarks. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you all @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::: Related: the broader Wikimedia community should weigh in on where to redirect Wikinews traffic. This is one of the strongest reasons to try something new at the current domains. I would hope the domain is put to use supporting an active community news effort, wherever it is hosted; historical pages can redirect. Unfortunately all of the news-related forks or comparables I know of also closed for lack of activity... [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) There are tools built into mediawiki ie [[Special:Import]] that allows the entire history from one wiki to be moved to another. Lower on [https://mdwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Gout&action=history&offset=&limit=500 this page] you can see what it looks like. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:44, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 6. Other = A small comment I'd like to make is that most interwiki-links on Wikinews (as far as I can see) are the same on Miraheze. (See: [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki Special:Interwiki]) As far as I can tell, this would not affect any of the Wikinews articles, when they are moved to Miraheze. [[User:Rodejong|Rodejong]] ([[User talk:Rodejong|talk]]) 11:50, 28 November 2025 (UTC) = 7. Wikifarm requirements, classes of hosting = One of the sticking points in discussions about the future of Wikinews was what level of hosting and customization was supported or expected; WMF having a high minimum bar for supporting production servers [and hosting all servers on shared infrastructure where a change to one site can throttle or take down others]. A number of community projects have indicated that, e.g., WM Cloud Services is not great for hosting an actively edited wikifarm. But if a number of free knowledge projects need a wiki farm with good archival practices, it might make sense for this to change, or to have an official partnership b/t WMF or the WM affiliate network and such a group. To this end, defining the needed level of service provision (including multilingual support) would be a good step. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:12, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :Would WMCloud be allowed here? WMCloud is supposed to be related to a wikimedia project, if Wikinews gets shutdown its no longer a wikinews project. That said, WM Cloud is probably sufficient to host a wiki the size of Wikinews even with active editing, but it would require sysadmins who know how to manage mediawiki. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :: This question came up in another thread; even if this is possible it would be good to know exactly what level of service is needed for a neutral wikifarm like Miraheze to host WN, what that costs, &c. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 01:13, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::Having already done some discussions and sizing, while the larger news wikis would be substantial adds, none would surpass the larger projects already on our service and we have plenty of capacity to take the entire fleet of Wikinews language families should we be selected. The Miraheze of 2026 is running on a much-improved infrastructure stack over what some might be familiar with from a few years back. :::Miraheze would not impose a charge to act as host, but as a donor-driven platform, donations are always welcome to help us keep pace with expanding demand. :) Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances] and [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget budgets] are public for those interested. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:56, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::::@[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], just throwing it out there but any '''start date''' or url? Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:31, 5 April 2026 (UTC) {{anchor|hardware}}Requirements depend on the fate of the old news. Minor requirements while Wikimedia keeps the archives, but Wikinews would need to maintain or rent a strong database management system if Wikimedia ejects all WN wikis (including the past content, especially of the Russian Wikinews) completely. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) =[[MDWiki:Main_Page]]= We forked health content to MDWiki a few years ago. With respect to cost each Wiki is about 25 to 40 USD/month and this includes updates, sys admin stuff, and security. One gets 10 GB of SDD space and then it is 1$ per GB after that. You get 100 GB of bandwidth after whic it is 0.05$ per GB. Specialied software work is about 100$ per hour but they have limited capacity for this work. With respect to using the name and logo, if you have consensus here to all go in the same direction, I would be supportive. If folks want to go in different directions than things would be a bit more complicated. Do you want to move all languages to a single wiki (less expensive) or keep each language in its own wiki? We use SkizNet which is USA based. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:38, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :Do you have a comment how come Miraheze provides hosting for free, @[[User:Doc James|Doc James]]? Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:32, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: They are also volunteer-based and rely on donations from users to run their servers. See also: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/FAQ -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Like anything else, if you want to do something custom or boss people around you need to pay for it. Miraheze hosting is more similar to WMF hosting where its solid but they aren't going to suddenly bend to your whims if you dont like the existing choices. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:37, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Everyone please check this out! Thank you. == https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/78142 I have requested a new English Wikinews. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :While I appreciate your interest in Miraheze. I do not think it is wise to make a unilateral move when the community is still weighing on the best hosting option. There is still more than a month of time to decide. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Sorry but im pretty sure they have decided. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:45, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], While I appreciate the enthusiasm for saving this project, I'll reiterate Petra - users ''should not'' request a wikinews fork at Miraheze on behalf of the project while discussion is ongoing and we are still waiting for WMF clearance on branding, especially if the person making the request isn't currently an administrator/crat on the wikinews project they're requesting it for. :::While your intentions are good, this will be interpreted as hostile forking and will be declined/deleted. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 04:58, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree with others. Things are still uncertain regarding the migration. When and how it will take place. The community is still discussing it, so please be patient. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:40, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == How to get the entire enwn backed up? == CC @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] -- Hi, does anyone know how I can get the backup of the entire enwn (along with history, local files, logs -- what have you) so that I can keep a copy of it on my local system, and perhaps run it via, say a docker setup? I'd appreciate it if someone could help me with this.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 09:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :https://dumps.wikimedia.org/ —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:18, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Would you be able to guide me how to run it locally, perhaps? [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 12:07, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :I don’t think the dumps page contains the data for logs or other non page info (may be wrong, if so I’d be glad for someone to correct me). There is probably a way to get this considering replica’s of the databases containing all information for a wiki are publicly accessible, but that may be more involved. I also don’t believe images are provided as an easy dump, but there are pieces of software that can create backups of all page content and images (https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/WikiTeam being the main one). I intend to probably run a dump of the wikinewses closer to the read only date and have it uploaded to the Internet Archive, assuming WikiTeam or someone else doesn’t do so first. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 12:47, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Dumps server contains multiple files with a variety of data. I think the only thing really missing is user data and anything that has been deleted/oversighted. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 17:14, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :::What does user data mean? I won't care about the IP logs, nor should that be publicly available -- but say the scripts that pizero worked on -- lack of that might break the functionality. But does that mean the dumps can recreate the entire wiki? And also, dumps.wm has nothing after 26.01 -- is it not updated monthly? If so, will it be available post May 4.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 17:27, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::::It doesn't have your password, email,user preferences, that sort of thing. If its non-public information its not in the dumps. I'm not sure what the update frequency is. I think its slower than monthly. I imagine its documented somewhere. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 18:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) == Clarification: WM NYC and Miraheze joint bid and requests on Miraheze == Hello all, as mentioned [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts#Current_Updates on Meta-wiki], WM NYC and Miraheze representatives are in joint discussions with WMF on a potential bid for an approved revival of the Wikinews projects with permission to utilize the same name and branding. While the community's enthusiasm for saving the project is appreciated and understood (hell, I've saved a project from the Fandom memory-hole myself), Miraheze '''''will not approve any new project requests from individuals (especially those who are not admins or crats on the language-specific WN projects)''''' until we have clear and full signoff from the WMF. Thank you for your patience while discussions are ongoing. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:40, 5 April 2026 (UTC) hrjv5gq17zoxaonb61dfoeghy8w5vko 5 3053937 5005355 4999344 2026-04-06T09:09:20Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* need 'nowiki' or template-link (tl) in drop-down option */ new topic ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5005355 wikitext text/x-wiki == Issues with text highlighting in article == @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], I'm not sure if this is the right place to report issues. If it isn't, let me know a better place and I'll move the comment. I used EzPR 2025 today on [[Four countries back out of Eurovision 2026 amid ongoing boycott]] and enabled "Allow highlight in article" and added several phrases and issues. With ''allow highlight'' enabled, I received the following error: <code>Inline highlight or unsourced marking couldn't be applied because the sentences are too complex or no matches were found. They will be ignored.</code> All phrases were copy/pasted from the article and do exist as of [[Special:Diff/4954668]]. It produced the following, which I successfully included without enabling ''allow highlight'': <syntaxhighlight text=wikitext> {{SIH | text1 = The four withdrawals generated major turmoil | issue1 = Needs attribution. | text2 = The broadcaster for Slovenia reported | issue2 = Attribution could be strengthened with a name. | text3 = The controversy encapsulated complaints stretching for years. | issue3 = Needs attribution. | text4 = Complaints grew after Israel started its military campaign in Gaza | issue4 = Needs attribution. | text5 = Due to Israel’s broadcaster being part of the EBU, the country is eligible to compete | issue5 = Implied causality without attribution | text6 = Some countries, namely Austria, the host of the Eurovision Song Contest in 2026, Germany, France, Britain, Portugal, and Sweden, supported the inclusion of Israel in the 2026 edition of the contest. | issue6 = Needs attribution. | text7 = and the high death count in Gaza. | issue7 = Multiple sources say the broadcasters cited the humanitarian crisis or humanitarian impact of the war. This is stronger and broader than “death count.” }}</syntaxhighlight> Let me know how I can help test this further, if needed. Thanks again for a great tool! [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:35, 9 December 2025 (UTC) :Thank you for explaining the issue. I have tried to understand the cause behind it, but I am having some difficulty identifying it. I will keep looking and try to resolve it once I find the culprit behind this. Sorry for the inconvenience. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:57, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :: No worries. The text issues highlight template is still quite useful and visually helpful.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:07, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :::I think the issue could be related to the difference between straight quotation marks and curly quotation marks, possibly due to how macOS and Windows handle them. I have made some changes to handle this. In future reviews if possible, please try it again and see whether the issue still persists. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:16, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :::: I just had a successful test of the highlight feature and it works well, though I didn't test it with any quotation marks yet. See [[Interpol Red Notice eyed against Zaldy Co]]. :::: I anticipate a request to make it a one-click removal of template:highlight. I was working on incorporating that feature into my [[User:Michael.C.Wright/MarkupManager|MarkupManager]] (MM) but was trying to do too much with also being able to hide the template using MM. :::: Have you already built into EZPR 2025 the ability to remove template:highlight before being published? The template does use [[Module:DetectDraft]] to suppress highlights in a published article (in case the template is not removed before being published). So we have a fallback.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:44, 12 December 2025 (UTC) :::::Good to know it works. And yes, EZPR 2025 has a built in function to remove highlights if they are present before publishing. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:15, 12 December 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]: One more thing I noticed: in <code>| text5 = Due to Israel’s broadcaster being part of the EBU, the country is eligible to compete</code>, the quoted text uses EBU, while [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Four_countries_back_out_of_Eurovision_2026_amid_ongoing_boycott&oldid=4954658 in the article itself] it is written as European Broadcasting Union. This mismatch also causes the issue. When I tried using "European Broadcasting Union" in the quoted text, the same as in the article, it seemed to work.-- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 16:35, 10 December 2025 (UTC) == For the wish list == I've done a partial review twice now. The first time I did it as a test (successfully) and then immediately followed it up myself with the full review, to see what it looks like and it worked great, it found the partial review, etc. It might be useful to post a templated notice on the talk page that a partial review exists for that article. We may even want to categorize partial reviews ([[:Category:Partially reviewed]]?) so they can be easily found. That way if a reviewer has limited time, they could go straight to a partial review if they thought it would take less time to review. It might also be useful to allow for "partial review notes" that could be 'temporary' in the sense that they are stored as data, and will load into the review space when a reviewer loads the partial review, but they are not otherwise kept and reflected in the final, full review. That way a partial reviewer can communicate things to the next reviewer easily. We might also consider adding a notice when a partial review exists, to the effect of "The final, publishing reviewer takes full responsibility for the state of published articles. Unlike an edit history, there is no permanent record of what was reported in a partial review." I understand if you want to wait for the SPTF decision before further development (don't blame you). These are not necessary for current use.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:11, 11 December 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]: That's a good idea. I can make the changes to implement these three cases, and they are not very complicated to add, so it shouldn't take much time. :For a partial review, do you think the script should add both reviewers' names to the peer review template? Or should it only add the notice "The final, publishing reviewer takes full responsibility..." for the publishing reviewer? -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 17:48, 11 December 2025 (UTC) :: > ''For a partial review, do you think the script should add both reviewers' names to the peer review template?'' :: I’ve been thinking about this and see two competing points. :: ::* The publishing reviewer carries full responsibility for the final state of a published article. Our policies, guidelines, and practices are unevenly documented. Reviewers often rely on institutional knowledge. That makes shared responsibility tricky. ::* At the same time, collaboration between reviewers could lighten the workload and make partial reviews more useful. :: :: The difficulty is that our reviewer group doesn’t yet operate with the level of trust and routine collaboration that would make this straightforward. Until that improves, it’s not obvious how much weight a publishing reviewer should place on a colleague’s partial review. We’ve had a high number of corrections and retractions this year, which suggests our review accuracy needs improvement. :: I’d like to hear from other reviewers on this. In the meantime, using the notice as a stop-gap may be the safest approach while the community gets used to partial reviews and has time to discuss how they should function.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:02, 12 December 2025 (UTC) :::Sure. Let's move forward with a notice approach then. I will integrate a notice into the conform review dialog. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:20, 12 December 2025 (UTC) :::{{Done}}: Now when saving a partial review, the script will post a notice using the {{tl|Partial review log}} template on talk page. A notice will be shown when publishing a continuation of a partial review, allowing the reviewer to leave a note for the next reviewer. This way, multiple reviewers can have a small back-and-forth conversation by leaving notes for each other. :::Let me know if there is anything I missed or might have misinterpreted. I will update the documentation soon. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:37, 14 December 2025 (UTC) == Tested notification of multiple contributors == Notifying multiple contributors with the ability to select which ones worked successfully! That's a very useful addition I think, as it could encourage more collaboration. 👍[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:03, 14 December 2025 (UTC) == Request for minor change to ezpr2 == {{tmbox|text=Moved from [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews%3AWater_cooler%2Ftechnical&oldid=4960694#Request_for_minor_change_to_ezpr2 Wikinews:Water cooler/technical] }} Hi @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] 1. In heading of user talk message i suggest writing "Published: [[Article Name]] (Month Day)" instead of "your submission (Month Day)". Replace "Published" with "Revision requested" (not "not ready" - the revision requested is more like a call for action) if review did not pass. 2. In any place where "not ready" any software or template I propose to write "revision requested". Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:20, 17 December 2025 (UTC) :On my way to implementing this, if there are no objections. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:53, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: {{Done}}, Now the user talk page notification title will be as you suggested. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:16, 18 December 2025 (UTC) == Suggested comments == @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: I have added some suggested comments for the criteria specific comment fields. Please check them out and let me know if any of them are unnecessary or should be removed. If you have any suggestions for additional comment text, text to be removed, or anything else, please let me know as well, along with the relevant criteria. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 16:27, 18 December 2025 (UTC) : Will do! Thanks for all the work on this. 👍[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:29, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :The current suggested comments are: :<syntaxhighlight> :criteriaSuggestions: { : copyright: [ : 'Please check the comment below.', : 'Potential copyright violation detected (high similarity score).', : 'Close paraphrasing of the source text found; needs rewriting.', : 'Text copied directly from a non-free source.' : ], : newsworthiness: [ : 'Article is stale or outdated and no longer newsworthy.', : 'Content is an opinion piece or editorial, not a news report.' : ], : verifiability: [ : 'One or more links are dead or inaccessible.', : 'Claims are not supported by the provided sources.', : 'Reliance on unreliable sources (blogs, social media).', : 'Missing sources for key facts or statistics.' : ], : npov: [ : 'Article contains loaded language or editorializing.', : 'Promotional tone detected.', : 'Article fails to represent all significant viewpoints fairly.', : 'Title is sensationalized or biased.' : ], : style: [ : 'Lead sentence does not follow the 5W & H format.', : 'Please use the {{source}} template properly.', : 'Please consider the inverted pyramid style for the structure.', : 'Improper attribution for opinions, unverified claims, or speculation.' : ] : }, :</syntaxhighlight> :-- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 16:29, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :: Some quick observations: :: Copyright: For "Text copied directly from a non-free source." we could just say "Text copied directly from another article." That covers both [[WN:Plagiarism]] and copyvio and avoids the argument 'the article isn't paywalled.' :: Newsworthiness: Maybe add "Focal event backgrounded by more recent developments."[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:37, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :::{{done}} -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 16:46, 18 December 2025 (UTC) == <s>AI assistance mode</s> == @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: I have added a new feature, AI assistance mode. You can activate the AI assisted review in the "Review Details and Tools" section. Documentation on how to enable the mode is [[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)#Activating AI Assistance|available there]]. It uses Gemini's API because they offer free tier usage for integration into the script. There is still room for improvement in this new feature. If you have any objections to it please let me know, including whether the AI feature should be disabled or not. And yes, Happy New Year. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 16:58, 31 December 2025 (UTC) : Looking forward to trying this feature! I'll give it a go soon. Thanks again for providing useful tools![[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:27, 1 January 2026 (UTC) : I tested this today but didn't use the results (because I didn't finish the review). Some feedback/questions: : :# Is there a way to allow the reviewer to manually manipulate the prompt? :# Could we make it more 'ala carte', i.e., allow for checking ''only'' Neutrality/Balance or only for style? :# Should we include a statement at the end of an AI-generated review summary that it was an AI-generated response? Or maybe a simple check box for the reviewer to select that reports AI was used to assist with the review. : : I use AI routinely with reviews and here is the process I use that works well for me. Maybe this could help us develop how we use AI better: : :# I start by feeding it just the lede and ask it to evaluate the 5Ws and state the focal event. I then evaluate its findings. :# I will use it to reword sentences for clarity, conciseness, and/or distance from source. :# Once I've verified all statements against the listed sources, I'll feed it the entire article and ask it to evaluate it for only neutrality and balance, paying close attention to attribution. :# Lastly I'll ask it to evaluate the full article against the inverted pyramid style and suggest a reordering of paragraphs, reporting to me in simple format such as 1 → 3, 3 → 2, 2 →1 for manual re-ordering (so AI doesn't inject hallucinations I then fail to detect). :# At no point do I trust AI's representation of facts. I have not found it to be accurate enough yet with providing only facts supported by the listed sources and it still has occasional problems with nuance (just as any human editor would). : : Again, this is just how I use it and I find it helps. I don't think it makes the review process any faster. But I feel it's better at evaluating NPOV and is certainly a better wordsmith than I am for paraphrasing, re-phrasing, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:25, 2 January 2026 (UTC) ::Thanks for the feedback. ::For 1. Currently, there isn't a way to provide a custom prompt, but I can add support for reviewers to write their own prompt. ::For 2. That is certainly possible. I can incorporate this into the AI Assistance Panel so it analyzes only specific, selected aspects of the article. ::3. Maybe a checkbox can be included in the confirm review dialog to indicate whether AI was used or not. Should this checkbox always be included, or should it appear only when AI assistance is used? ::Your approach would certainly help reduce hallucinations by the AI model. The AI-integrated approach in the script is intended to provide a quick, low-level analysis of the article. When using an AI model manually, you are likely using the latest version of that chatbot. However, one limitation of integrating AI into EzPR 2025 is that it currently uses an older version of Gemini, as newer versions are not allowed for integration using API. ::So yes, direct usage of the AI model is generally the better approach. You can consider the AI assistance feature as an additional, optional tool. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:33, 2 January 2026 (UTC) :'''Update:''' AI assistance mode has been removed per [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Asked42#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260108004800-Michael.C.Wright-20260108002200 this discussion]. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:21, 9 January 2026 (UTC) == bug about not leaving a note when article was published == please see: [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/technical#ezpr2_bug_report_it_does_not_add_note_to_article_talk_when_article_is_published]] thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:33, 3 January 2026 (UTC) :Already resolved. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:22, 9 January 2026 (UTC) == Post publication changes review == @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: I am thinking about adding a feature called "Pending Changes Review" or "Post-publication Changes Review." It would appear as an option in the user's action menu. When clicked, it would open a dialog displaying information such as who last checked the article, which editors have made changes since the last review, and so on. There would also be a diff button to compare the last reviewed version with the current version, along with options to either accept or reject the changes, with or without a comment. The reviewer could also choose to log this post-publication review on the talk page. But before proceeding, I would like to know whether this would be useful or if the current approach is already sufficient. If it is useful, what additional features would you suggest to make post publication edit review more helpful? -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:27, 19 February 2026 (UTC) : I like the idea—and thank you again for all of the development work you continue to do for the reviewers! : I think sighting post-pub changes is one of our weaker areas and this may help. If it can help untangle some of the rattiest ones, that'd be even better. : [[Netumbo Nandi-Ndaitwah sworn in as Namibia's first female president]] is a good example of what I mean by 'rattiest' or many edits to work through. : I also think having quick and easy access to sighting logs would help. They seem (to me) to be a bit hidden, or hard to find. : I'm happy to test for you.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:40, 19 February 2026 (UTC) : I also just remembered that we have the ability to grant temporary reviewer status. You could be granted temp reviewer for testing and developing purposes, unless there are any objections from the community. Options available for the duration include 1, 3, and 6 months. Barring any objections, I think three months would be enough for testing purposes, and it could be extended if necessary.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:36, 19 February 2026 (UTC) ::Sure. I will try to create an initial plan to achieve that. If temporary rights are required during testing, I will request them. But, there are a few things I am not fully familiar with. For example if an article has, let's say, five pending changes, do you compare only the current version with the last sighted version, or do you review each change separately against the next one? This will help me understand the complexity of this. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 13:48, 20 February 2026 (UTC) :::Basically, what I am trying to say is that if you could share a general idea of how you (or any reviewer) usually review and either sight or reject pending changes, that would help me a lot. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 13:51, 20 February 2026 (UTC) :::: I do both; check against previous edit and check stable vs latest. Often I need to compare one edit to the previous to know exactly what was changed—especially with articles. When going through the templates recently though, I could short-cut it and only compare the stable version to the latest, pending changes version, because with templates, [[WN:Archive]] does not apply, and the content ''can'' be changed. I rarely just compare stable to latest pending with articles to ensure content didn't get substantively changed in violation of archive conventions. :::: I don't believe the system allows us to reject a single change in the middle of a bunch of other unapproved, non-actioned changes. It actually allows it, but takes no action until your next approve above the reject. Then it "rejects" all before and including the rejected one. And I believe contributors can get notified that their edits were reverted. So for that reason also, I will often work through and approve/reject serially or leapfrog only one to the next approved. :::: It also, for some reason, doesn't self-sight the last rejection. So counter-intuitively, the last rejection action must also be approved/sighted in an extra step. That is easy to forget and leave behind (and would be great if your tool does automatically). :::: Hopefully that all makes sense and hopefully I accurately described it. I won't be offended if it's now clear as mud and you need more detail for clarity. It may be better to understand my workflow here as leap-frogging the edit history, approving edits in order to reject the previous edits that they've reverted, which is most often the case—me approving counter-vandalism rather than rejecting the vandalism. It's also quicker in the system to approve than reject. There is an extra step when rejecting. :::: Also after explaining it, I think it will be very beneficial to you to have the reviewer flag temporarily so you can run through one to see how it works, unless there is good enough documentation somewhere for you. The documentation [[mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs#Reviewing_a_page|here]] isn't completely helpful. I've never seen an interface with "accuracy, depth, and readability" for example.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:46, 20 February 2026 (UTC) :::::There are certain things I still find a bit confusing, specifically regarding "rejecting a revision." I will look for more documentation to see if I can find additional info. :::::After some analysis, I think the main change that could be introduced for post-publication edits would mostly be an improved interface for reviewers. Logic-wise, based on my understanding, there does not seem to be much additional functionality required beyond the current system. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 13:31, 21 February 2026 (UTC) {{outdent|6}}Agreed. If the tool provides a checkbox to auto-sight rejections, I think that alone will be a great benefit. The rejection process is not clear to me, which is making it difficult for me to explain to you. The opaqueness of the rejection process is likely part of the reason so few reviewers work on the pending changes queue. At any rate, below I'll try to clarify how I understand the rejection process. I created [[Template:Test-flagged-revs]] to test with. I successfully rejected Change 3 without doing anything with Changes 1 & 2. It rejected all three, as expected. [[File:Flaggedrev-reject-change3.png|thumb|right|alt=screenshot of rejections|Rejecting Change 3 also rejects Change 1 & 2]] I then rejected Change 4, which at the time was the last, un-sighed change, and it marked it "automatically checked" and I'm not sure why. Normally, with articles, I would also need to sight that last rejection separately. Auto-sighting a rejection isn't an option (that I'm aware of). I then made test changes 5 - 8 and tried to reject number 7 and I now receive the following internal error: [[File:Flaggedrev-internal-error.png|thumb|left|alt=screenshot of flagged revs|Internal error as a result of rejecting Change 7]] {{clear}} I don't know if this is a bug or my misunderstanding of how the extension is supposed to be used. When I run into an issue like this in an article, I approve/reject changes one-at-a-time. There is also the fact that the extension is considered by some to be "non-standard and outdated."[https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185664] So maybe it isn't worth the time and should eventually be removed from en.WN. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:13, 21 February 2026 (UTC) ::::i find the review queue hard to handle mostly because i do not have anyone to chat with, when i have a question. if there was a software that allows to generate a table somewhere with list of nicks and their availability, and i could read it without needing to do time zone conversions to my time zone, it would help me personally. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:16, 20 February 2026 (UTC) :i found it hard to follow. would that be for one article or pending review edits queue for one article? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:09, 20 February 2026 (UTC) ::The plan was for each article individually, not for a review queue. This is because there is already a queue available for pending changes at [[Special:PendingChanges]]. I do not think there is much improvement I could develop for the existing queue, nor do I think a new one is needed beyond the current one. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 13:27, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :::Hi Asked42, I was confused how the tool would improve upon current software, which shows a diff from latest sighted revision. Based on content, I either approve, reject, or make an edit and then self sight it (i.e. that could be formatting change, removing vandalism, or otherwise reverting something that was done after the page was last sighted). That I thought was already as nicely done as possible. How would the new tool improve this, other than display itemised edit history with the UI for approving last revision (currently that is not shown)? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:40, 21 February 2026 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Of course before deciding what new or improved features can be introduced, I need to understand what limitations or problems exist in the current approach, if there are any at all. I have [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews_talk:Easy_Peer_Review_(2025_version)#c-Asked42-20260221171100-Michael.C.Wright-20260221151300 discussed an initial plan] in the comment below; you can take a look at that. ::::However, I agree that the tool may not be able to introduce anything revolutionary or fundamentally different from the current system. If implemented, most of the changes would likely be related to interface and UI improvements rather than underlying logic or functionality. Would you like to suggest anything related to post-publication changes, or is there anything that could be improved within the scope of EzPR on that matter? -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:50, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :::::Main limitation of this software. From my perspective. Is the lack of motivation of reviewers to work together. For two years I have been requesting real time communication. Nobody was interested. I am not sure what would help for this. Some software should request that if a reviewer opened wiki, then they should respond to a note 'I will be available for ... (20 minutes or 2 hours or whatever)' and forces that user to join a real time communication thing and stay there for that duration and every time there is a new message, destroy their computer speakers and screen with the most annoying notification possible. This was a feature in [[:w:MSN]] chat in 2001, it popped up to top of all windows and rang. That was not an audio call, it was just 'buzz that user' button that popped up the text chat on top of their everything they have open, even if it was a video game. (I revised an article an hour ago, the reviewer was available for next hour or perhaps hour and a half, and spent time doing template documentation improvement and not the review of the changes that I made, for example; if there was a real time chat thing, a communication could have helped with further revisions and/or publishing.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:30, 21 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::"''Main limitation of this software. From my perspective. Is the lack of motivation of reviewers to work together.''" - Well, EzPR does include a method for collaborative review, also called partial review. You can read more about it on the documentation page. But whether reviewers choose to collaborate is entirely up to them; the gadget itself cannot decide or influence that. (@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]) ::::::Regarding the software you suggested for live communication, that is an interesting idea, but unfortunately it is '''outside the scope of EzPR, or any gadget''' for that matter. What you are proposing involves using another platform, which is not something that can be implemented through a user script. I think this might be better discussed elsewhere, perhaps at the Water Cooler, as it is not directly related to this gadgets. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 06:21, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::i mean to have real time communication not partial review, although i can see how that feature would be awesome if somehow one reviewer did want to resume work of another :) :::::::even push notifications would help, [[:phab:T113125]] -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:47, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::[[:meta:Community_Wishlist/W498]] -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:56, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :Thank you for the detailed explanation. It was very helpful in giving me a clearer idea. As I understand it, the following could potentially be done with this new feature (please correct me if I am wrong): :# The tool would log all edits made after the last stable version of the article. :# The reviewer could choose to compare each revision with its previous one. :# The reviewer could serially mark each revision as stable (from oldest to newest), which would update the log accordingly. :# The reviewer could mark any specific revision as the current version of the article: essentially meaning that all revisions after the selected one would be reverted. :# If the reviewer does not want to go through all the edits one by one, they can simply accept the current version or revert it to the last stable version (as I understand, this can already be done). :# If reverted, the reviewer could choose to automatically sight the last edit or keep it unsighted. :# The reviewer could also choose to log/add the sighting actions on the talk page (I am not sure whether this should be the default or optional). :If there is anything I have missed, or if you would like to suggest improvements, please feel free to let me know. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 17:11, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :: This looks good. There is also a separate log associated with FlaggedRevs; [[Special:Log/review]]. That's the log I mentioned "having quick and easy access to sighting logs would help." That may also pertain to your #1 above. :: If the tool could provide an expandable—but collapsed by default—field containing the review logs, that might also be useful when working through a long list of changes that has been partially worked through already. Currently the logs aren't displayed in the normal Edit History and one has to view them separately; in a different browser tab, new browser page, etc. :: For reference; the article "[[Explosion occurs near railway offices in Athens, Greece]]" currently has a list of edits to be sighted as well as previously approved or rejected edits along with [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=review&page=Explosion_occurs_near_railway_offices_in_Athens,_Greece a review log]. You can see edit summaries in that log that aren't visible in the Edit History, such as "downcase" and "No content change."[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:44, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :::Thanks for the suggestion and that specific example. I will integrate the review logs into the tool, along with the revision logs. However, since it seems there are not many significant issues with the current system, I think it would be better to first determine whether there is actually a problem that needs to be solved before investing resources into further development. The original plan when I proposed this was to make the pending changes review process more structured and easier to follow. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:56, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :::: {{tq|it would be better to first determine whether there is actually a problem that needs to be solved before investing resources into further development.}} :::: The problems with the system I think are inherent to how it was designed and implemented and not something easily fixed. The primary problems, as I understand them are: :::: 1. Rejections themselves require an additional approval <br>2. There doesn't seem to be an option to self-sight a rejection if it is the last in the list of pending changes<br>3. Edit summaries associated with Review logs are only included in the page's edit history if a rejection is involved. :::: I think #2 could be fixed with a JS interface, which could alleviate #1. Beyond that, my hopes for the tool were things like optional drop-down choices for edit summaries, logs readily available if needed, and the option of pushing automated talk page notices to make approvals/rejections more transparent to all contributors. :::: I think these features could help improve the process of working through pending changes, and might even make it more consistent between/among the reviewers with boilerplate summaries and talk-page notices that are PaG-informed. I'm less hopeful that they'd get more reviewers to actually do the work.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:40, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :::::I understand. I will prepare an initial version and then you can test it. Later we can make further refinements. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 16:46, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::Maybe could help to notify user(s) involved that their edit(s) were or were not accepted and a comment; and show a timer of how many hour passed after article was published. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:37, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::By "notify" i mean actually leave them a talk page message and not only an Echo notification as then that could become a space for discussion. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:38, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::This notification feature is now available as well. Thanks for the suggestion. please check the message below. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:39, 26 February 2026 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: The feature for reviewing post-publication changes (PPCR) is now available. There are a few minor tweaks that may still need to be made, but it is ready for testing. :::::Please visit any published article [[special:PendingChanges|that has pending changes]]. In the p-menu (the same place where you find the "Review" option), you will see a new option called "Post publication Review." Click on it to open the interface. :::::At the moment I am unable to fully test the sighting related functionality myself. I have performed some basic dummy tests but I cannot properly test actions related to sighting. If you could test it and check whether everything is working correctly, that would be very helpful. :::::Documentation for the interface is [[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)/Post Publication Review|available here]]. If there is anything you would like to see added or improved in the interface please feel free to suggest it. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:38, 26 February 2026 (UTC) :::::: It looks great! I did just tested it at ''[[Explosion occurs near railway offices in Athens, Greece]]''. I thought I was approving to the most recent, unsighted change but it only approved the most recent and didn't approve the previous two (the archival edits), which is interesting and possibly handy (and could also have been something I did, not a bug). Without the tool, I am unaware that later edits could be approved without approving or rejecting previous edits. :::::: The talk output may need to be addressed: [[Talk:Explosion occurs near railway offices in Athens, Greece#Post Publication Review Logs]]. :::::: I am unfortunately stepping away from my computer now for most of the day and won't be available until possibly this evening, Pacific time.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 26 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::Thanks for testing it out. Just to clarify, I assume you mean that if an article has three unsighted edits, then approving the most recent one should automatically sight the previous two as well. If that is the case, I will make the necessary change to handle that accordingly. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 16:34, 26 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::: Sorry, I should have been more clear. I was in a hurry to get out the door. :::::::: I seem to recall there being at least two options: approve/reject edits one at a time, or approve the latest version as-is. I 'assumed' by approving the last change, it would approve all previous as well. But it didn't. Which is interesting. :::::::: I should have checked to see if the archive template was visible when not logged in. It was a previous edit that was still pending (I think I manually sighted the two previous edits pertaining to the "archive" of that article). :::::::: At any rate, I'll give it another test and kick the tires a bit more.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 23:34, 26 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::I have made changes to automatically sight all previous edits if the current revision is approved. The related templates for logging on the talk page have also been created. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 17:14, 26 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::Suggest automatically adding signature at end of '''[[Talk:Explosion occurs near railway offices in Athens, Greece|these 'Post Publication Review Logs' entries]]''' on article talk, in case someone wants to 'Reply' to that message. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:38, 26 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::{{Done}}: Thanks for pointing that out. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 13:28, 27 February 2026 (UTC) == Three new features for EzPR25 == Hello, @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] three new features have been added to EzPR2025: 1) '''Dynamic Marking:''' In the Sentence Marking (SM) section, there is now a new button called "Dynamic Marking". If enabled/clicked, the text will be highlighted using the inline comment gadget instead of the {{tl|highlight}} template. The highlight will be attached to an inline comment/issue. If Dynamic Marking is turned off, the current method using the template will continue to be used. (You can [[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)/DynamicMarking|learn more about the Dynamic Marking gadget]]; it can also work independently of EzPR2025.) 2) '''Easier Sentence Selection:''' For Sentence Marking, you no longer need to copy and paste text into the fields. Just open the SM section and select the text directly from the article. A "+" icon will appear next to the selected text. Click it, enter the issue, and done. ([[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)#Sentence Marking|Know more about this]]) 3) '''New Post-Publication Tools Page:''' After publishing an article, visit the [[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)/Post Publication Tools|Post Publication Tools page]]. You may already be familiar with '''Lead Manager''', which is available there. A new tool called '''QuickData''' has also been added. QuickData allows reviewers to quickly create a Wikidata item for the article and add the sitelink automatically. Some statements are pre-filled to help create the item faster. (This tool is still very new and may not have been widely tested yet. Suggestions and improvements are welcome.) If you try any of these features in your upcoming reviews, please let me know. I would also appreciate feedback on whether any changes or improvements are needed, or if there are tools you think are unnecessary and could be removed. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 08:17, 14 March 2026 (UTC) :This may feel overwhelming. Let me know if there is any confusion or if a simpler explanation is needed. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 08:18, 14 March 2026 (UTC) :Thank you for the update. For point 1, I assume if a user wants to see these inline comments, they will need to enable a gadget. Is this correct? For point 3 I did not use Wikidata, I do not know what to do with the QuickData (or why or what for). [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:23, 14 March 2026 (UTC) ::Currently, Dynamic Marking is enabled for all users. In my opinion, it should be a default gadget so that it is enabled by default and users do not have to enable it manually. If users have to enable it manually, the main purpose would be defeated. (many non tech savvy users may feel confused about enabling it manually.) ::Regarding Wikidata, almost all Wikimedia sister projects create a Wikidata item for their articles or pages. This is a common practice across our sister projects. Wikidata allows translated articles to be linked through sitelinks between different language editions of Wikinews. There may also be other uses that I am not fully aware of. Many reviewers already maintain Wikidata items for published articles, so QuickData will help them with this task. ::In my opinion, creating a Wikidata item for a published article is a solid step to include in the reviewers' workflow. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 13:24, 14 March 2026 (UTC) : Love the idea of QuickData and Dynamic Marking! I'll test as soon as I can do a review. : Thank you again for the continued tool support and development. Making the review and publish processes easier will hopefully equate to more active reviewers. : That post-pub tools page looks great too. The layout looks modern, clean, and easy to understand. 🙏[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:59, 14 March 2026 (UTC) : I tested QuickData earlier and it worked great. I used it to create [[d:Q138679940]] : This may be too difficult or overly complicated and is not a priority or a huge need; could the script search for a sisters link and if found, place the title of the link in the main subject (P921) property? For example: [[d:Q132777472]] for [[Gunman enters Pennsylvania hospital ICU, kills officer before police fatally shoot him]]. This will associate the sister article with our article. : I'm not sure if we should also be doing the mirror of that; adding our article to the main subject of the sister article...I might ask around about that.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 23:40, 15 March 2026 (UTC) ::Just to make sure I understand correctly, you are suggesting: ::* Scan the article for "Sister links" section, if available. ::* If found, prefill the "Main subject(s)" field on the QuickData form. ::Is that all, or is there anything I missed? --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:06, 18 March 2026 (UTC) ::: Yeah, that was it. Thanks again. I also like the button at the top of an article to put it under review. 👍 Lots of good stuff to help reviewers.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:11, 18 March 2026 (UTC) ::::{{Done}}: If the mentioned item in the sister link template is available on Wikidata, it will be linked as a main subject. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:37, 19 March 2026 (UTC) == need 'nowiki' or template-link (tl) in drop-down option == In the Style review criteria, in the drop-down menu of Criteria specific comment, "Please use the <nowiki>{{source}}</nowiki> template properly.", the mention of the template should either be enclosed in the HTML 'nowiki' or using <nowiki>{{tl|source}}</nowiki> to avoid transclusion. I ran into this [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Performance_Space_in_New_York_City_holds_annual_gala_honoring_three_artists&oldid=5005347 here] for an example. 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[[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-27707-2|&#126;2026-27707-2]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-27707-2|talk]]) 18:02, 13 January 2026 (UTC) : @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], I didn't block either of you. Please, ''please'' be mindful of contributing to disruption, even if you are responding to others' disruption. Revert once and notify at [[WN:AAA]]. Beyond that, you're just playing into their game. We can ultimately undo whatever vandalism they've done and we have a few active admin these days who can help with blocks and deletions. And thank you for your continued work with vandals. 👍[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:17, 13 January 2026 (UTC) == Interview style guide == I'm in the process of transcribing a very interesting interview - is there a style guide for this? Particularly, I wondered on the wikinews stance regarding removing "um"s, "like"s, and small phrases that do not contribute to the meaning. Thanks. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:10, 14 January 2026 (UTC) : Our style guide briefly addresses this issue: [[Wikinews:Style_guide#Quotes]]. : The Chicago Manual of Style offers more specific guidance[https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/data/faq/topics/Quotations/faq0069.html], which may be useful to ''Wikinews''. : Based on both, I would recommend the following: : :# Begin the verification process for the transcript and interviewee as early as possible by coordinating with reviewers via Scoop, similar to what was done [[Talk:Robert Dick and Mark Dresser re-unite at the Fridman Gallery#Email or in-person interview|here]]. Reviewers must be able to verify (1) that the interview took place and (2) the interviewee’s identity if they are named. (For brief, on-the-scene interviews, this requirement may be relaxed; this sounds like a more substantive interview.) :# Include a transparency note in the article body, such as ''This interview has been edited for length and clarity''. :# Ensure that any edits do not alter the interviewee’s original meaning. :# Provide the full interview transcript (to include all verbal ticks or speech disfluencies) on the talk page, excluding any sensitive information, both for transparency and reviewer verification. : [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:22, 14 January 2026 (UTC) ::I submitted it for review - I didn't want to clutter the talk page with the full text, is there an accepted way to include it on a subpage? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:04, 16 January 2026 (UTC) ::: As far as I know they've always gone in the talk page, where policy requires them to be.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:05, 17 January 2026 (UTC) ::::I don't think you linked to that policy, where is it? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:15, 17 January 2026 (UTC) ::::: wn:or[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:18, 17 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::I actually don't see anything explicitly stating that interviews should be in raw text on the talk page. I see that notes should be on the talk page and that interviews should be e-mailed to scoop. Is this interviews being on the talk page your interpretation? I'm asking because I wanted to get it as right as possible from the outset, but again, I don't want to make the talk page unreadable. I may just use a collapse if that's acceptable. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:51, 17 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::: The policy is to place original reporting notes, including interview transcripts, on the article’s talk page. Using collapsible formatting there is fine if readability is a concern.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:03, 17 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::::I guess my confusion is that a transcript of an audio interview does not seem like original reporting notes to me. Is there something there that explicitly includes later transcripts of the interview? Regardless I have posted it. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:12, 17 January 2026 (UTC) {{outdent|8}}Transcripts of recorded interviews are part of original reporting notes because they document the primary evidence behind the article. They belong on the talk page so reviewers and readers can verify what was said and how it was used. Any follow-up clarifications or additions from the interviewee should also be clearly attributed in the article. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 17 January 2026 (UTC) :Guess emailing to scoop is fine too [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:48, 18 January 2026 (UTC) == AI again == I made a news article about Davos and PM Carney, but i put it into Grok.AI generator still looks good though, thoughts? Thank you. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:15, 20 January 2026 (UTC) : As long as the article complies with [[WN:AI]], I don't foresee a problem with using AI. '''Recommendation''': Before requesting review, independently verify that every factual claim is directly supported by the cited sources. This reduces the risk of post-publication corrections or retractions and should be treated as a standard part of article development.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:47, 20 January 2026 (UTC) == Quinton Declare roblox user == I think you need to read this... Exposing him a promotional newsie https://chatgpt.com/c/69727a13-7978-832c-8c0c-fc3b06461387 [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:29, 22 January 2026 (UTC) :@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:29, 22 January 2026 (UTC) ::https://chatgpt.com/c/69727a13-7978-832c-8c0c-fc3b06461387 ::Only source '''WikiNews'''. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:32, 22 January 2026 (UTC) :::I didn't link but got this from ChatGPT, "Roblox itself is not “news,” but things that happen on Roblox can be real news". [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:35, 22 January 2026 (UTC) ::::https://chatgpt.com/c/69727cc3-ad14-8329-b6a1-eef94817b2cb [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:40, 22 January 2026 (UTC) :::::Kannotlogin doesn't seem notable... Aka Quentin declear. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:41, 22 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::Why would AI lie about this matter? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:42, 22 January 2026 (UTC) == Clearing off steam... Original Reporting == I may have gotten ahead of myself, but I still think someone should look into this matter. Now I will focus on writing articles. Thanks. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:07, 22 January 2026 (UTC) :@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] OR? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:23, 22 January 2026 (UTC) :: I originally thought the same. However, there were no original facts published in the article. All of the facts were supported by the listed sources, making it a synthesis article. I think it being a synthesis article as opposed to OR is better in regards to the conflict of interest. I mentioned this change from OR to synthesis in the [[Talk:Roblox player uncovers cheating, awarded Guinness World Record#Review of revision 4974067 %5BPassed%5D|review summary]] (just trying to be transparent).[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 20:28, 22 January 2026 (UTC) :::Ok enough bugging you Michael, thank you again! @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:38, 22 January 2026 (UTC) == FYI == Hi Michael, there's a multiple account issue: [[d:Wikidata:Requests for checkuser/Case/Kannotlogin|Wikidata:Requests for checkuser/Case/Kannotlogin]]. [[User:Taichi|Taichi]] ([[User talk:Taichi|talk]]) 06:49, 26 January 2026 (UTC) :I knew something seemed off about this. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] @[[User:Taichi|Taichi]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 13:12, 26 January 2026 (UTC) ::Does the link work? https://chatgpt.com/c/69776edc-0294-8331-b7f3-b3072dd952b1 ::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 13:46, 26 January 2026 (UTC) == AI real quick question sorry again. == I know recently a census was cast to ban AI usage, but if I use AI prompt can I put into my own words? Thanks, I've talked to Paul also about this topic. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:05, 29 January 2026 (UTC) : I am confused. You voted to ban AI usage.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:27, 29 January 2026 (UTC) ::I want to retract my vote to oppose. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:07, 30 January 2026 (UTC) :Until any proposal is formally adopted, the project continues to operate under its existing policies and guidelines. At present, guidance specific to AI use exists only in the proposed [[WN:AI]] page. :From my perspective, the primary risk to Wikinews is not whether content is drafted by a human or assisted by a tool, but whether inaccuracies, bias, or unsourced claims pass through development and review. AI “hallucinations” are functionally no different from human-introduced errors once they appear in article text, and both are addressed by the same requirement: proper sourcing and full verification during review. :Accordingly, the appropriate approach is to follow existing guidance, maintain transparency where applicable, and ensure that all content — regardless of how it is drafted — meets our standards for accuracy, neutrality, and verification. :Contributors who wish to participate in shaping future policy on this topic should continue the discussion at [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#Proposal to ban usage of AI at Wikinews]]. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:25, 30 January 2026 (UTC) == Question about local WN links == On the article that recently was published, you changed a few links from the en.wiki link to the local link, such as {{w|New York City}} to [[New York City]]. The local link currently is a redirect to a category of stories about New York. Do you know, are all local links like this to categories, or is there precedent for creating mini profile-like pages here on frequently covered topics? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:49, 31 January 2026 (UTC) : There are a few things to consider with interwiki linking articles at Wikinews, especially using {{tl|w}}: : :* [[WN:SG]] encourages us to not over-wikify articles. :* <nowiki>{{w}}</nowiki> documentation encourages us to convert it to normal linking if it resolves to a local [[Wikinews:Category Portals|category portal]]. :* Like any website, we want to keep our readers ''here'' rather than send them to another page. : : In the example you provided[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Bruce_Gallanter_interviews_Elliott_Sharp,_Joe_Fonda_at_Downtown_Music_Gallery_event&diff=prev&oldid=4977061], the <nowiki>{{w}}</nowiki> link resolved to a local portal, not to en.WP. You can verify here: {{w|New York City}}. So I followed the advice of the template:W documentation and converted it to a local link. I do that when reviewing and when archiving. I believe the goal with <nowiki>{{w}}</nowiki> was to slowly, over time, create our local categories and continue to convert old <nowiki>{{w}}</nowiki> links to point to our local categories in an effort to retain readership rather than send them away on a wikilink chase. <br>The [[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] generation, who developed our modern review system leaned more heavily on the journalism aspect rather than the wiki aspect and preferred that our articles look more journalistic and less like a wiki. They preferred that if we link to a sister project, it be for "particularly relevant background material" only. We have admittedly drifted from that guidance. <br>A quick tip for those who want to follow this procedure when developing articles: under Preferences → Gadgets → User interface gadgets you can enable "Underline in green categorizable <nowiki>{{w}}</nowiki> links." Then when <nowiki>{{w}}</nowiki> links resolve locally, you can quickly and easily see it because the link will have double underlines when your cursor hovers over it.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:53, 31 January 2026 (UTC) ::What I was asking is if the portal is ever _not_ a category but is a local article of some other kind. Are there any cases like this or are they all redirects to categories? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 18:18, 31 January 2026 (UTC) ::: I am not aware of any cases where a portal is not a category. ::: One ''could'' put an article title into <nowiki>{{w}}</nowiki>. But that is not the intended use of the template and I suspect it would be removed during the review or archival process if found. ::: The same section of the style guide that covers wikilinking an article discusses where to place links to other ''Wikinews'' articles, which is at the end of the article, sparingly. ::: So in short; if the <nowiki>{{w}}</nowiki> template is used correctly, as a link in the article body, it resolves to something that provides "particularly relevant background material only," is not another ''Wikinews'' article, and does not otherwise contribute to "over-wikifying" the article. ::: Does that answer your question or at least get closer to what you are asking?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:48, 31 January 2026 (UTC) : > ''is there precedent for creating mini profile-like pages here on frequently covered topics?'' : I overlooked this question. I'm not aware of any precedent for this. My suggestion (you are free to take it or leave it) is to create a mock-up in your sandbox to demonstrate what you mean and then propose it formally to the community. If I understand it correctly, I'd support it, as you write a lot of OR and I think it would be good to organize it so it's easier to showcase and encourage click-through to other, similar articles.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:12, 31 January 2026 (UTC) == If AI usage gets taken away... == I might have to leave the project... @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:03, 24 February 2026 (UTC) : I would genuinely hate to see you leave the project. You have been a long-standing and helpful contributor. : I too believe AI tools can be useful when used carefully, and that the risks can be managed within our existing [[WN:REV]] framework and the proposed [[WN:AI]] guideline. : Given how frequently the tools are still being used, I suspect many contributors find them valuable, even if few are participating in the discussion. If you disagree with points raised there, it would help to say so and explain why. Others may share your view but be reluctant (or intimidated) to speak up first. : That said, if the community reaches a clear consensus, we are bound to respect that decision.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:20, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :Hi [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] :* There is a nasty workaround. After using one AI to write, ask all AI to check for '''inaccuracies and grammar AGAINST THE SOURCES LINKED (not the whole web)'''. Have you tried doing this before? I believe it is a growing field in research and it could reduce risk of hallucinations. If it works well then the AI ban may not be necessary. :* Could use that page https://gryllida.neocities.org/news/writer/v3/ and not upload to wiki untill it was requested to be checked for inaccuracies; revised; requested to be checked for inaccuracies; revised; and so on. :* Inaccuracies could be hallucinated too. Thats why i suggest to check several AI chatbots to assess. :Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:45, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::I love AI but it has to go it will then. Per consensus, @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ::Also I will try and stick around. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:56, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::I wrote the above because you could try it now (while consensus is pending) and '''show''', in that "lets ban usage of AI" discussion, that AI ''can'' work well if it was used correctly. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:48, 24 February 2026 (UTC) : Of course, there's a much less-nasty ''solution''—with no work-around needed—that is also, already policy compliant: verify all AI output against the listed sources. 🤔[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 20:55, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::For BigKrow it was requested a few dozens of times that he verifies output. Nothing changed. I believe there is some substantial reason for this different from "I did not do it". [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:58, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::: Wait, so all facts need to be verified? Is that what you are saying?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:05, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::::No, I did not say that. What did I say? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:12, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::::The TLDR of what I said: asking BigKrow to "check AI output against the sources" (a) was alreaduly suggested before many times (b) did not work and may not work at all and (c) is not highly relevant when speaking with BigKrow. Comprehension and grammar are something he struggles with, chronically. The cause for this is not publicly available but it exists and is not just a case of "I did not want to do it". ::::Maybe it is more easy to understand for you now that I rephrased it? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:17, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::Are you calling me dim witted? @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:23, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::please remember I suffer from mental illnesses. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:24, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::i still think I'm doing fine here as much as possible. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:25, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::ill write in my own work Kay? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:27, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::This is fine with me. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:29, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::thank you for sticking with me lol. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:36, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::::Hi [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] I was contaťed below and also off-wiki with a note that I was having personal attack in the above discussion and that I consistently (and multiple times) attacked your writings. I wanted to check with you whether you are perceiving me as supportive or as an condescending/abusive/rude person, your feedback would help me improve my communication in the future. I thought I was being supportive. Please let me know your position on this matter. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:26, 25 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::::: You weren't contacted below or off-wiki. In both cases, ''you'' made contact. ::::::::::: Nobody invited you to join this discussion and I don't see that you brought any value to it. Clearly Don felt insulted by your comment and I too felt it was inappropriate. ::::::::::: I think your best course of action is to apologize and move on, hopefully learning something in the process about how you communicate with others.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 00:31, 25 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::Hi @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] :::::::* I was referring to the mental illness which was not named anywhere as far as I can see. :::::::* I think a reviewer approaching you and saying to you 'just check it against all sources, mate' like Michael.C.Wright did above is unhelpful. :::::::** The said reviewer ought to know that it was already requested from you a dozen of times and did not work. :::::::** The said reviewer ought to know that just you wanting to do it better will not fully help. It is like asking a person with one leg amputated to run. If they just badly want to run it will not make that second leg appear. :::::::* That was why I suggested you asking AI to check for inaccuracies since that is something that you do not always have the capacity to fully do yourself. :::::::Hope this is helpful. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:29, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::sorry for snapping at you @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:35, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::No worries [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:38, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::: You actually said "Comprehension and grammar are something he struggles with, chronically." :::::::: What you hoped to convey, or what you might have ''meant'' to say are not apparent from that statement.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:37, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::Do you have an additional question from this [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:38, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::::its not likely I will even see you both in real life tbh. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:49, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::::You two seem like very nice people though and I appreciate your help! @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:05, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::::::Please call me "Don" from now on, thank you both! My real first name. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ::::::::::::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:12, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::::::nice to meet you ^_^ [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:00, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::: I know that talk pages are important to you, and you wish to avoid what you call "meta discussions." Part of that might be to not involve yourself in the conversations happening between two people at a user's talk page. You were neither pinged nor mentioned, yet you inserted yourself and proceeded to insult someone's intelligence and the quality of their work. And this isn't the first time this has happened with this individual contributor. :::::::::: I don't have a question but I do have two suggestions: :::::::::: ::::::::::# Think about how it is perceived when you insert yourself into a conversation and proceed to insult the others already in the conversation. ::::::::::# Choose your words better than the following: :::::::::: :::::::::: ::::::::::* "This is garbage because..."[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:BigKrow/Archive_1#c-Gryllida-20251225202500-Published:_Domestic_call_in_Rochester,_New_York_leads_to_three_police_officers_b] ::::::::::* "Please do not submit crappy paragraphs for review."[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:BigKrow/Archive_1#c-Gryllida-20251225202500-Published:_Domestic_call_in_Rochester,_New_York_leads_to_three_police_officers_b] ::::::::::* "Authors are untrustworthy..."[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews_talk:Cite_sources#c-Gryllida-20260219000500-Michael.C.Wright-20260216192300] :::::::::: :::::::::: This conversation was between two people about AI and you inserted yourself then turned it into a personal attack. :::::::::: No amount of explaining it away changes what you clearly wrote.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 23:26, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::::I'd like to comment that calling a piece of text poor was not a personal attack and the point I was making above was not meant neither it was perceived as a personal attack to the best of my knowledge. Unless substantial new information is provided I will not need to comment on this matter further. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:16, 25 February 2026 (UTC) == Wildfire article == I don't particularly disagree (particularly looking at how the article morph'd after I submitted it) with your assessment of the article. A minor 2 points, though: I was just trying to throw together a 'quickie' breaking article. There are LOADS of things happening with that mess -- I was just trying to throw a little something up, really. And, historically: 'authorities' is just quick shorthand for 'the folks responding to the mess' around WN. We could easily publish 4 articles about this train wreck going on in Texas right now. I just don't have time. Somebody else started that article, I thought I was going to do a few minor bits then (I think) the OP vanished (not sure, though). [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:15, 27 February 2026 (UTC) :I am still here, it's just that I am sometimes busy (in college). [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 17:01, 27 February 2026 (UTC) : My intent here is to let you know where my head was at in the review process...this is not meant to be argumentative: : I was initially prepared to publish a brief, breaking piece. But once I began verifying the details, it became clear the article, as written, would not clarify the situation and might instead add confusion. : Public health and safety reporting requires extra care. We have a responsibility to be precise. We have previously published language — for example, in [[Shooting at Benihana restaurant in Maple Grove, Minnesota leaves one injured]] — that overstated what sources supported in a ''public safety'' context. : With the [[Wildfires burn across parts of US states of Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas|wildfire article]], I intentionally erred on the side of caution. We could certainly have reduced scope — avoided naming individual fires, or simply directed readers to official emergency information — rather than trying to summarize everything. There was significant confusion around the 8-ball fire, for example, that affected the accuracy of our article, that we could have avoided altogether by not trying to name all of the fires (in the service of speed). : On “authorities”: the ABC7 source named specific entities (Amarillo Area Office of Emergency Management, Donley County Sheriff’s Office, Tyrone Volunteer Fire Department) for all evacuations they listed. In cases like this, specific attribution improves both neutrality and verifiability. : But more broadly, once we begin listing evacuation orders, we need to do so comprehensively. And I'm not sure we have the ability to keep up with it once we start. Should someone decide to rely on our reporting for their safety, can we honestly support them? I'm not willing to say we are right now. : Taken as a whole, I thought the article, as presented for review, wasn't ready. And I agree with you that oftentimes 'authorities' can be used. I also agree we can publish quick briefs on breaking news, such as with our story about the [[Talk:Homeland Security says Minneapolis woman shot by ICE officer dies#Help expanding breaking news|first Minneapolis ICE shooting]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:23, 27 February 2026 (UTC) ::In situations like this, my prescription is: narrow the focus. Short, quick, tight. I will see about working something up in that regard soon. —[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:14, 28 February 2026 (UTC) ===Cross posting question which was unnoticed=== I had a question about this change [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Musical_performance_presented_by_Striped_Light_in_Long_Island_City,_New_York_showcases_four_performers&diff=prev&oldid=4990598]. I did not put my name in there and have no objection to it being removed, but you brought up the topic of accredited reporters in your edit description. As far as I know I applied to be accredited a month ago and it has more or less been sitting there gathering dust - did I miss part of the procedure needed? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 03:21, 5 March 2026 (UTC) : > ''did I miss part of the procedure needed?'' : Not that I can see. But do note that the process might take some time as we have few active contributors and [[Wikinews:Accreditation requests/Asheiou#c-Heavy_Water-20230613170900-Questions_and_comments|historically, the accreditation process takes some time]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:10, 5 March 2026 (UTC) : I have also added a statement to the sitenotice for further announcement to the community. Hopefully that spurs more engagement. : I'm not sure how much notification truly happens when we just increment a ticker in the votings box, maybe we should update that process.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:21, 5 March 2026 (UTC) == Vandalism on recent changes no u ****** == please remove hide or something please urgently @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 15:16, 5 March 2026 (UTC) : {{done}} Feel free to email details in cases like this. Thanks![[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:24, 5 March 2026 (UTC) == Request for change to wording == It is my view that the message you posted on my talk page was worded disrespectfully as it was "abrasive", for your reference, I would suggest to write "Hi, I am concerned undeleting a page to gatwick it puts other users at disadvantage as they, not being sysops, cannot undelete themselves, and have to post [[WN:DR]] undeletion request. Please let me know if you agree or if you would prefer a discussion in water cooler to get consensus and a policy clarification." I think it is basically same content but it does not contain the "you are ignoring policy, you are being abusive" component - it is possible that your interpretation of the policy is incorrect and that consensus will be to add a note that admins can undelte anything. In your original message the way it was worded, it seemed that you were sure that your interpretation was correct. This is why I considered the tone of that message as abrasive, it creates additional and unnecessary tension. The message is also long. It makes it more confusing. There is no need to create it a lecture on policy. Mentioning a policy is sufficient. Message that is too long creates in my view more confusion. In my view it is not necessary to include a hint that the reader might be ignoring that policy. Accusation of policy violation is not the main issue; the main issue is to converge on how to interpret the policy. I asked similar question about wording of "notification about unsuccessful review" template for user talk, it is also coming from "we/community" and not "I", which in my view makes the person sound less approachable. If some of above points, that seem important to me as they are making me feel "unwelcome" here, is something that you could consider when writing messages to me, and maybe to others, I would appreciate it. I believe it would make work more efficient and faster. I do not require a response to this, you may abandon or delete this message if you want. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:57, 5 March 2026 (UTC) :As a neutral outside observer I have been uncomfortable with some of your dialog directed at Gryllida in the past and in fact have it brought it up at least once. It might be a good idea to be sure of your perspective. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 00:32, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :: I do not find you to be an outside observer, let alone a neutral one. Are you not aware that the Discord server essentially records conversation histories in #general, for all to see? Even if one is not present while you and others scheme on how to kick someone out of Wikinews, it can still be seen.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:06, 6 March 2026 (UTC) : I am sure you can understand the hypocrisy in using 340+ words to say, in part, that 197 words are confusing to you. That hypocrisy informs me that this post was not made in a good-faith effort to try to resolve a conflict.<br>And if that wasn't enough to disqualify your comment as not in good faith, the fact that none of the quotes above are accurate, let alone representative of what I actually said, does.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 00:59, 6 March 2026 (UTC) ::I was raising concern about tone and about your message being confusing, yes. The tone of this last message is still an issue, it was 'you are not in good faith' message without attempt to clarify content. Honestly I am still confused what you wanted. If you wish to rephrase it more clearly, it would be helpful. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:24, 6 March 2026 (UTC) ::: I'm not playing these games with you. Your interpretation of tone from text is neither within my control nor my responsibility. [[User talk:Gryllida#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260304192500-Unilateral_undeletion|This post is factual and devoid of insinuation or supposition]]. Your reaction to it is your responsibility. ::: The guideline states that the only valid reason to even ''request'' an undeletion is if the deletion was in error. Neither of the deletions was in error. Neither of the undeletions had a request. Therefore neither of your undeletions followed guidelines. The problem is further complicated by the fact that you authored the article and therefore ''misused'' your admin tools in favor of your personal editing interests. ::: On its own, it might be a minor issue, but using your admin tools for personal interests is [[Wikinews:Requests for permissions#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260218022200-Gryllida-20260216202600|becoming a pattern]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:51, 6 March 2026 (UTC) ::::A few clarifications... ::::# I considered it fine for ''anyone'' to request undeletion for Gatwick purpose. (Whether that is a good process to follow, that is discussed on another forum.) In that context, I believe the implication about "misused in personal interests" is invalid and is unnecessarily negative. This is why I suggest you to present your words differently, allowing space for that either your interpretation or even the guideline itself was wrong. ::::# Example (forgetting i had supposed coi) ::::## positive tone: 'Hey Gryllida, you just undeleted a article to Gatwick it, I think this is a great idea and should be added to policy for anyone to have access to undelete an old refreshed story by request'. ::::## neutral tone: 'Hey Gryllida, you just undeleted a article to Gatwick it, I think this is different from policy. what is wrong, you or the policy?'. ::::## negative tone: 'Hey Gryllida, you just undeleted a article to Gatwick it, I think this is a terrible idea and is a policy violation'. ::::Hope this is helpful. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:19, 6 March 2026 (UTC) ::::: > ''I considered it fine for ''anyone'' to request undeletion'' ::::: Yet you didn't request it.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 02:20, 6 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::Yeah, I consider it acceptable for ''any admin'' to undelete their own or others' work if they deem it appropriate. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:51, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]: I will be upfront. I haven't followed the full history of what's been going on between you two, and I don't want to pretend I have. But as someone who cares about this project, I feel compelled to say something. Wikinews is at a point where every experienced editor genuinely matters. So many long standing contributors have drifted away over the years, and the community is smaller for it. That's exactly why seeing tension between two editors I respect, editors who clearly do care about this project is difficult to watch. :I've noticed what seems like an ongoing friction(?) between you both, and I simply wanted to ask, as a fellow community member, whether there's a way to work through whatever the underlying issues are. :This isn't meant as a judgment of either of you. I am not in a position to say who's right or wrong, and that's not my place. I just genuinely believe the project needs you both and more importantly, it needs you both pulling in the same direction. You've clearly been able to work well together before. I hope that's possible again. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 04:52, 6 March 2026 (UTC) ::Hi Asked42, I appreciate you coming to have a look. I undeleted a page I was working on and MCW says it should not be undeleted because it was deleted 'by the rules' as abandoned page. That is the first time I am seeing such paradigm, yet I am the one being accused of sysop privilege abuse in this. I consider this behaviour dishonest as I call out abuse from a user only if it happened repeatedly despite having agreed on something in the past. I still have no clue what it is that needs to be agreed on, in this situation. Acagastya proposed a good solution, moving pages to user space to avoid them being deleted. I am happy with that solution but I suspect I will be haunted by another few weeks of discussions about sysop privilege abuse based on this, perhaps for years, and will be told that it is my own problem. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:02, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :: @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], thank you for your input and feedback. I would agree that there is ongoing and long-standing friction between Gryllida and I. :: > ''I simply wanted to ask, as a fellow community member, whether there's a way to work through whatever the underlying issues are.'' :: I have [[Wikinews:Water cooler/policy#Clarification: use of administrative undelete on articles authored by the admin|posted a question]] to the larger community in an attempt to clarify at least the cause of the latest flare-up. :: I have also intimated on- and off-wiki to other, uninvolved administrators that I would be interested in mediated dispute resolution. I do think the underlying causes of the tension should be discussed beyond just Gryllida and myself.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:38, 6 March 2026 (UTC) == Texas firefighters address wildfires across parts of the state == Please check my logic on that article's Talk page. I think I am correct. It's stale now, so I'd have to gatwick (in the least), but I think I am correct in my comments.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:40, 6 March 2026 (UTC) : I am no longer uninvolved as a reviewer (I've expanded the article) and the latest review was by [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]]. <br>Before I expanded the article, I was in the process of approving it with a Style guide exception for it being short (below 100 words) after my review edits. However, I didn't feel we had a problem with too few sources. I felt that both sources support the broader fact that more firefighters are being sent to the Panhandle. <br>However, the KETK source is six days older than the KWTX source and KETK does not specifically reference deployment from Central Texas, nor the Robinson volunteer dept. But they do both mention broader deployment to the Panhandle using TIFMAS. So I was willing to publish, also noting it was Gatwicked once already and we were close to being stale.<br>[[WN:Pillars]] does specifically state "A synthesis article must have at least two mutually independent, trust-worthy sources verifying the focal news event of the article." Last March, I copied that verbatim to [[WN:CS]] policy.[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Cite_sources&diff=prev&oldid=4842931] <br>Since I'm now involved in development, I'm trying to tread lightly. I don't think it is appropriate for me to instruct another reviewer ''how'' to review that specific article. I could honestly concede to both sides. The reviewer feedback has merit and is grounded in policy and the pillars, which I assume were meant to be 'upstream' of all PaGs, or the support for all PaGs.<br>I'll also say for a new reviewer, I'd personally much prefer <del>an</del> <ins>they</ins> err on the side of caution, rather than publishing something that might, for whatever reason, require a correction or retraction later.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:19, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :::OK -- fair enough -- to "fix" things, I just intend to gatwick the whole bit of business to something more fresh.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:32, 6 March 2026 (UTC) == A very tiny thing........ == ...but (I believe) ''notable'': We have a LOT of names here [[Wikinews:Credential verification]] that need their credentials 'expired' -- I can do the grunt work -- any thoughts? We kind of lost our steam as far as germinating/de-credentialing Accredited Reporters around here.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 23:51, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]], as part of upgrade, I think [[Wikinews:Accreditation requests/Gryllida|mine]] is missing in the list. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:45, 7 March 2026 (UTC) : We do have one open request for accreditation. : More broadly, though, the question of expiring credentials may point to a larger issue. Many of these processes (accreditation, deadlines, rigorous review) were created when the project placed a stronger emphasis on operating as a high-quality citizen journalism outlet. Over time, many of those processes have lost the rigor they once had. : It may be worth stepping back and asking whether that reflects limited capacity, or a broader shift in how the project sees itself and its mission. If the latter, it might also explain why systems like accreditation have gradually fallen out of focus or favor.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:59, 7 March 2026 (UTC) == Thank you == Thank you for really keeping the project moving over the last year. There was a similar stretch of time (starting shortly before you joined) where I was in the same position and I understand the amount of work that goes into it. I apologize for going AWOL since the summer. I really got demoralized about only whether what we did here had any meaning whatsoever, particularly in the context of the almost inevitability that the powers that be will shut us down and erase everything that dozens of people struggled for for 21 years, every dream of the people we lost along the way, if they determine we don't serve the top-down NGO goals the WMF bureaucracy and their minions have for Wikipedia (I understand there is a final decision to be made on our fate in December?) I was also drained by the constant talking about talking about doing something (although that's an eternal problem here) and more so the fact that I had to spend basically all my Wikinews time cleaning up (reviewed!) work because others (not you), writing or reviewing, didn't care for the basic standards we have established and documented so at least even if our work is pointless and lacks originality, we were good writers, damn it. I got busier, too. I don't know if I'll return to the level of activity I once maintained, but I'll try to do some stuff. Congrats on being demoted to the mop. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 20:09, 7 March 2026 (UTC) : Thank you for the kind words and recognizing the work. Though it was a group effort. : > ''I understand there is a final decision to be made on our fate in December?'' : That was ''last'' December, unfortunately. We are officially in no-man's land with regards to that. I and others continue to press the Board for an update. I just recently tried posting to a new venue to see if I get better success there. Fingers crossed. : > ''I don't know if I'll return to the level of activity I once maintained, but I'll try to do some stuff'' : I think it would be most beneficial to have you and your red pen back, keeping us all on our toes quality-wise. You also represent a wealth of institutional knowledge that is desperately needed...especially if we are allowed to remain active but with some changes or updates to our work flow. : > ''Congrats on being demoted to the mop.'' : Thanks.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:40, 10 March 2026 (UTC) == [["One Battle After Another" wins 6 Oscars including Best Picture]] == Michael: Thank you for completing the review of this article and getting it published. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 17:15, 21 March 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground]] (March 22) == <div style="border:2px solid #57DB1E;background:linear-gradient(135deg,#E6FFE6 0%,#F0FFF0 100%);padding:1em 1.5em;color:#1a1a1a;margin:1.5em;border-radius:4px;box-shadow:0 2px 8px rgba(87,219,30,0.15);"> <div style="padding-bottom:1em;">[[File:Wikinews collaboration logo 2.svg|150px|center|A helping hand!]]</div> [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|50px|left|link=]] <div style="margin-left:64px;"> <span style="font-size:1.1em;font-weight:bold;color:#2d5016;"> Hi {{{user}}}! Thank you for your contributions. </span><br/> The article '''[[South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground]]''', to which you contributed, has now been published. '''Congratulations! 🎉''' <div style="margin-top:0.5em;">The reviewer's comments and decision are available on the [[Talk:South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground|article's talk page]].</div> <div style="margin-top:0.5em;">Thank you very much for your collaborative work and support. We hope you will continue contributing to Wikinews. If you have some time, consider taking a look at other articles currently [[:Category:Developing|under development]] or [[:Category:Review|awaiting review]]. Your help in improving or reviewing them would be greatly appreciated.</div> <div style="font-size:0.9em;color:#555;"> ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. </div></div></div> -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:34, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :That was a weird bug: I specified an empty custom comment, as my clipboard was borked. :Here is a copy... :A few remarks: :1. Having checked sources, I needed to make some changes, such as "near the neck" and not "in the neck", and the bombing incident was last year (not two years ago). Please check the edit history carefully and let me know if any of my changes were incorrect. :2. I am trying to push towards more exclusive content or more closer follow ups here. Could you please either think of the questions to ask the South Korean Army, or, write a follow up report when the investigations completed and drills resumed? :3. Barely newsworthy as this is nearly 5 days old but I think this is fine to publish. :4. For npov balance, recommend including responses from other sources, i.e., from someone who is not a part of the South Korean Army. This may be done up to 24 hours after the story is published. :Overall, this looks great, I appreciate the report!!! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:38, 22 March 2026 (UTC) nc35ngnwysbuky7qdse3bbehgacwlzi 3 3075568 5005177 4983677 2026-04-05T22:15:39Z Ontzak 262943 Ontzak moved page [[User talk:Cjmenza42]] to [[User talk:Renamed user c34c467f65d56384fde28f6a20dfb0fa]] without leaving a redirect: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/Cjmenza42|Cjmenza42]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/Renamed user c34c467f65d56384fde28f6a20dfb0fa|Renamed user c34c467f65d56384fde28f6a20dfb0fa]]" 4983677 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Cjmenza42}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 20:55, 9 February 2026 (UTC) hx3pezxvlp4lgj4gnn2guzef78zfrf9 0 3079816 5005071 5005006 2026-04-05T13:14:11Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 clarify link 5005071 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Correction|date=April 5, 2026|explanation=A source used in this article, News Tribune, is behind a paywall and therefore not publicly accessible for verification. This is contrary to [[WN:PAYWALL|sourcing policy]], which requires that sources be freely accessible to allow independent verification.}} {{Date|March 2, 2026}} {{Sports}} [[Major League Baseball]] pitcher {{w|Max Scherzer}} signed a full contract with the {{w|Toronto Blue Jays}}, with the team confirming the agreement on February 26, 2026. The agreement, according to ''USA Today's'' {{w|Bob Nightengale}}, will be a salary of US$3 million with incentives up to US$10 million. Scherzer had five wins and five losses and an {{w|earned run average}} of 5.19 for seventeen starts and 85 innings played last year for the Blue Jays. Scherzer is an eight-time All-star pitcher. His eight-year-old daughter Brooke wrote a letter on December 15 to the Blue Jays hoping they would accept him back. Scherzer had played for the Blue Jays in 2025 on a one-year contract. Scherzer's wife, Erica May-Scherzer, posted the letter from Brooke on Instagram. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source |url = https://apnews.com/article/scherzer-max-brooke-daughters-letter-e4abc7d36711acfb88b49baba722d2f0 |title = Max Scherzer’s 8-year-old daughter sent handwritten note to Blue Jays hoping for Toronto return |author = |pub = AP News |date = February 27, 2026 |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20260301150432/https://apnews.com/article/scherzer-max-brooke-daughters-letter-e4abc7d36711acfb88b49baba722d2f0 }} *{{source |url=https://www.newstribune.com/news/2026/feb/27/scherzers-8-year-old-daughter-wrote-handwritten-note-to-blue-jays-hoping-for-toronto-return/ |title=Scherzer’s 8-year-old daughter wrote handwritten note to Blue Jays hoping for Toronto return |author= Associated Press |pub=News Tribune |date=February 27, 2026 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20260303012613/https://www.newstribune.com/news/2026/feb/28/scherzers-8-year-old-daughter-wrote-handwritten-note-to-blue-jays-hoping-for-toronto-return/ }} *{{source |url=https://www.si.com/mlb/bluejays/onsi/news/blue-jays-reveal-terms-max-scherzer-contract |title=Blue Jays Officially Reveal Terms of Max Scherzer's Incentive-Based Contract |author=Jayesh Pagar |pub=Sports Illustrated |date=February 26, 2026 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20260301091632/https://www.si.com/mlb/bluejays/onsi/news/blue-jays-reveal-terms-max-scherzer-contract }} *{{source |url = https://www.mlb.com/twins/news/max-scherzer-blue-jays-2026-contract |title = Scherzer reaches agreement on deal to return to Blue Jays |author = Keegan Matheson |pub = MLB.com |date = February 26, 2026 |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20260303013020/https://www.mlb.com/twins/news/max-scherzer-blue-jays-2026-contract }} *{{source |url = https://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/max-scherzer-blue-jays-new-contract-9.7106535 |title = Veteran pitcher Max Scherzer confirms he is returning to the Blue Jays |author = |pub = CBC News |date = February 25, 2026 |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20260303020405/https://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/max-scherzer-blue-jays-new-contract-9.7106535 }} {{Publish}} [[Category:Major League Baseball]] [[Category:Sports]] [[Category:Baseball]] [[Category:Canada]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:Ontario]] [[Category:North America]] 6buhinjx9s0t5kul8wf0xssvdq7qp5s 5005072 5005071 2026-04-05T13:14:53Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 add category per request at [[Talk:Max Scherzer signs deal to return to Toronto Blue Jays#Category Toronto?]] 5005072 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Correction|date=April 5, 2026|explanation=A source used in this article, News Tribune, is behind a paywall and therefore not publicly accessible for verification. This is contrary to [[WN:PAYWALL|sourcing policy]], which requires that sources be freely accessible to allow independent verification.}} {{Date|March 2, 2026}} {{Sports}} [[Major League Baseball]] pitcher {{w|Max Scherzer}} signed a full contract with the {{w|Toronto Blue Jays}}, with the team confirming the agreement on February 26, 2026. The agreement, according to ''USA Today's'' {{w|Bob Nightengale}}, will be a salary of US$3 million with incentives up to US$10 million. Scherzer had five wins and five losses and an {{w|earned run average}} of 5.19 for seventeen starts and 85 innings played last year for the Blue Jays. Scherzer is an eight-time All-star pitcher. His eight-year-old daughter Brooke wrote a letter on December 15 to the Blue Jays hoping they would accept him back. Scherzer had played for the Blue Jays in 2025 on a one-year contract. Scherzer's wife, Erica May-Scherzer, posted the letter from Brooke on Instagram. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source |url = https://apnews.com/article/scherzer-max-brooke-daughters-letter-e4abc7d36711acfb88b49baba722d2f0 |title = Max Scherzer’s 8-year-old daughter sent handwritten note to Blue Jays hoping for Toronto return |author = |pub = AP News |date = February 27, 2026 |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20260301150432/https://apnews.com/article/scherzer-max-brooke-daughters-letter-e4abc7d36711acfb88b49baba722d2f0 }} *{{source |url=https://www.newstribune.com/news/2026/feb/27/scherzers-8-year-old-daughter-wrote-handwritten-note-to-blue-jays-hoping-for-toronto-return/ |title=Scherzer’s 8-year-old daughter wrote handwritten note to Blue Jays hoping for Toronto return |author= Associated Press |pub=News Tribune |date=February 27, 2026 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20260303012613/https://www.newstribune.com/news/2026/feb/28/scherzers-8-year-old-daughter-wrote-handwritten-note-to-blue-jays-hoping-for-toronto-return/ }} *{{source |url=https://www.si.com/mlb/bluejays/onsi/news/blue-jays-reveal-terms-max-scherzer-contract |title=Blue Jays Officially Reveal Terms of Max Scherzer's Incentive-Based Contract |author=Jayesh Pagar |pub=Sports Illustrated |date=February 26, 2026 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20260301091632/https://www.si.com/mlb/bluejays/onsi/news/blue-jays-reveal-terms-max-scherzer-contract }} *{{source |url = https://www.mlb.com/twins/news/max-scherzer-blue-jays-2026-contract |title = Scherzer reaches agreement on deal to return to Blue Jays |author = Keegan Matheson |pub = MLB.com |date = February 26, 2026 |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20260303013020/https://www.mlb.com/twins/news/max-scherzer-blue-jays-2026-contract }} *{{source |url = https://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/max-scherzer-blue-jays-new-contract-9.7106535 |title = Veteran pitcher Max Scherzer confirms he is returning to the Blue Jays |author = |pub = CBC News |date = February 25, 2026 |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20260303020405/https://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/max-scherzer-blue-jays-new-contract-9.7106535 }} {{Publish}} [[Category:Major League Baseball]] [[Category:Sports]] [[Category:Baseball]] [[Category:Canada]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:Ontario]] [[Category:North America]] [[Category:Toronto, Ontario]] 4qoo6rjzr7oj61qyxujb9vcmx765sy3 1 3080459 5005060 5005007 2026-04-05T12:33:24Z ~2026-20994-53 2951793 /* Category Toronto? */ new section 5005060 wikitext text/x-wiki == Really hoping to get this one published == @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] I'm focused on writing more positive news, thanks I put up for pre-review for possible feedback! Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 18:31, 1 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi, what is the date if the event? Please include in first parahraph. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:05, 1 March 2026 (UTC) ::Done @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 19:24, 1 March 2026 (UTC) == Pre Review == {{Pre-review |evaluated-url=https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=MLB_pitcher_Max_Scherzer_comes_to_agreement_on_deal_to_return_to_Toronto_Blue_Jays_says_source&oldid=4991635 |status=pass |updated= |copyright=pass |earwig-permalink=https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikinews&oldid=4991635&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1 |newsworthy=pass |verifiable=pass |npov=pass |style=pass |author-notes= |reviewer-notes= |updated-notes= }} --[[User:DrKay|DrKay]] ([[User talk:DrKay|talk]]) 16:37, 2 March 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 4991691 [Passed] == {{Peer_reviewed | revid = 4991691 | copyright = pass | newsworthy = pass | verifiable = pass | npov = pass | style = pass | reviewer = Michael.C.Wright | comments = An easy and quick article to review. Thank you for the contribution! There was one instance of an unsupported statement regarding Shi Davidi. I'm not sure where the statement came from but I could not find it in the listed sources so I removed it. | time = 17:57, March 2, 2026 (UTC) }} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:57, 2 March 2026 (UTC) :Shi Davidi reported that Max Scherzer is returning to the Toronto Blue Jays on a one-year deal with a low base salary and significant incentives :@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 18:19, 2 March 2026 (UTC) ::https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/what-the-max-scherzer-signing-means-for-the-blue-jays/ Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 18:20, 2 March 2026 (UTC) :first reported by Sportsnet colleague Shi Davidi. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 18:21, 2 March 2026 (UTC) ::I had to use ai though. ::Perplexity ::I just searched didn't really use ai for article @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 18:22, 2 March 2026 (UTC) ::: [[Category:AI usage declared]] ::: Please be sure in the future that all output, regardless of its source, whether AI or otherwise is properly sourced. We shouldn't rely solely on the review process to ensure our articles are accurate and verifiable for our readers.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:17, 2 March 2026 (UTC) == Correction for paywalled source == {{flag}} The News Tribune source article has since been paywalled. When published, I was not aware News Tribune used a paywall. I have issued a correction but not self-sighted at this time. I have also reduced protection to allow a non-admin reviewer to sight, edit, or revert it prior to archival. If it isn't sighted soon, I may self-sight.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 08:41, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Category Toronto? == can someone add? @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-20994-53|&#126;2026-20994-53]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-20994-53|talk]]) 12:33, 5 April 2026 (UTC) 7afgponffxotjoqtdd8fbbdborsp03i 5005061 5005060 2026-04-05T12:34:56Z ~2026-20994-53 2951793 /* Category Toronto? */ Reply 5005061 wikitext text/x-wiki == Really hoping to get this one published == @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] I'm focused on writing more positive news, thanks I put up for pre-review for possible feedback! Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 18:31, 1 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi, what is the date if the event? Please include in first parahraph. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:05, 1 March 2026 (UTC) ::Done @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 19:24, 1 March 2026 (UTC) == Pre Review == {{Pre-review |evaluated-url=https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=MLB_pitcher_Max_Scherzer_comes_to_agreement_on_deal_to_return_to_Toronto_Blue_Jays_says_source&oldid=4991635 |status=pass |updated= |copyright=pass |earwig-permalink=https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikinews&oldid=4991635&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1 |newsworthy=pass |verifiable=pass |npov=pass |style=pass |author-notes= |reviewer-notes= |updated-notes= }} --[[User:DrKay|DrKay]] ([[User talk:DrKay|talk]]) 16:37, 2 March 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 4991691 [Passed] == {{Peer_reviewed | revid = 4991691 | copyright = pass | newsworthy = pass | verifiable = pass | npov = pass | style = pass | reviewer = Michael.C.Wright | comments = An easy and quick article to review. Thank you for the contribution! There was one instance of an unsupported statement regarding Shi Davidi. I'm not sure where the statement came from but I could not find it in the listed sources so I removed it. | time = 17:57, March 2, 2026 (UTC) }} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:57, 2 March 2026 (UTC) :Shi Davidi reported that Max Scherzer is returning to the Toronto Blue Jays on a one-year deal with a low base salary and significant incentives :@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 18:19, 2 March 2026 (UTC) ::https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/what-the-max-scherzer-signing-means-for-the-blue-jays/ Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 18:20, 2 March 2026 (UTC) :first reported by Sportsnet colleague Shi Davidi. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 18:21, 2 March 2026 (UTC) ::I had to use ai though. ::Perplexity ::I just searched didn't really use ai for article @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 18:22, 2 March 2026 (UTC) ::: [[Category:AI usage declared]] ::: Please be sure in the future that all output, regardless of its source, whether AI or otherwise is properly sourced. We shouldn't rely solely on the review process to ensure our articles are accurate and verifiable for our readers.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:17, 2 March 2026 (UTC) == Correction for paywalled source == {{flag}} The News Tribune source article has since been paywalled. When published, I was not aware News Tribune used a paywall. I have issued a correction but not self-sighted at this time. I have also reduced protection to allow a non-admin reviewer to sight, edit, or revert it prior to archival. If it isn't sighted soon, I may self-sight.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 08:41, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Category Toronto? == can someone add? @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-20994-53|&#126;2026-20994-53]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-20994-53|talk]]) 12:33, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :Category:Toronto, Ontario [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-20994-53|&#126;2026-20994-53]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-20994-53|talk]]) 12:34, 5 April 2026 (UTC) a9nnvqw0gkym20qbmtv8wc8jpzignvf 5005073 5005061 2026-04-05T13:15:58Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* Category Toronto? */ reply ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5005073 wikitext text/x-wiki == Really hoping to get this one published == @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] I'm focused on writing more positive news, thanks I put up for pre-review for possible feedback! Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 18:31, 1 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi, what is the date if the event? Please include in first parahraph. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:05, 1 March 2026 (UTC) ::Done @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 19:24, 1 March 2026 (UTC) == Pre Review == {{Pre-review |evaluated-url=https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=MLB_pitcher_Max_Scherzer_comes_to_agreement_on_deal_to_return_to_Toronto_Blue_Jays_says_source&oldid=4991635 |status=pass |updated= |copyright=pass |earwig-permalink=https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikinews&oldid=4991635&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1 |newsworthy=pass |verifiable=pass |npov=pass |style=pass |author-notes= |reviewer-notes= |updated-notes= }} --[[User:DrKay|DrKay]] ([[User talk:DrKay|talk]]) 16:37, 2 March 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 4991691 [Passed] == {{Peer_reviewed | revid = 4991691 | copyright = pass | newsworthy = pass | verifiable = pass | npov = pass | style = pass | reviewer = Michael.C.Wright | comments = An easy and quick article to review. Thank you for the contribution! There was one instance of an unsupported statement regarding Shi Davidi. I'm not sure where the statement came from but I could not find it in the listed sources so I removed it. | time = 17:57, March 2, 2026 (UTC) }} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:57, 2 March 2026 (UTC) :Shi Davidi reported that Max Scherzer is returning to the Toronto Blue Jays on a one-year deal with a low base salary and significant incentives :@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 18:19, 2 March 2026 (UTC) ::https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/what-the-max-scherzer-signing-means-for-the-blue-jays/ Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 18:20, 2 March 2026 (UTC) :first reported by Sportsnet colleague Shi Davidi. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 18:21, 2 March 2026 (UTC) ::I had to use ai though. ::Perplexity ::I just searched didn't really use ai for article @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 18:22, 2 March 2026 (UTC) ::: [[Category:AI usage declared]] ::: Please be sure in the future that all output, regardless of its source, whether AI or otherwise is properly sourced. We shouldn't rely solely on the review process to ensure our articles are accurate and verifiable for our readers.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:17, 2 March 2026 (UTC) == Correction for paywalled source == {{flag}} The News Tribune source article has since been paywalled. When published, I was not aware News Tribune used a paywall. I have issued a correction but not self-sighted at this time. I have also reduced protection to allow a non-admin reviewer to sight, edit, or revert it prior to archival. If it isn't sighted soon, I may self-sight.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 08:41, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Category Toronto? == can someone add? @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-20994-53|&#126;2026-20994-53]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-20994-53|talk]]) 12:33, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :Category:Toronto, Ontario [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-20994-53|&#126;2026-20994-53]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-20994-53|talk]]) 12:34, 5 April 2026 (UTC) : {{done}} but not sighted, as there is a pending correction that must also be sighted first.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:15, 5 April 2026 (UTC) b2mup7dj190e4mtzwzqmflzkov5lrjw 4 3081893 5005265 4993843 2026-04-06T02:33:32Z Metropolitan90 314212 preferences 5005265 wikitext text/x-wiki <div style="border:1px solid #a2a9b1; background:#f8f9fa; padding:12px; margin:10px 0; border-radius:3px;"> Hello editor, You can specify your preferences for receiving review notifications posted on your talk page by the [[WN:EzPR 2025|EzPR 2025 gadget]]. 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[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:40, 16 March 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Tduk}} There is a quote in this article that says, "So we are celebrating Women's History Month with music '''lipo''' fun." (Emphasis added.) Is that a typo? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:09, 18 March 2026 (UTC) *:Good catch, that was a transcription bug.. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 02:54, 18 March 2026 (UTC) *::I'm a bit unsure of the correct way to have Downtown Music Gallery point to the fact that we have published articles about it before. Can anyone advise? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 02:55, 18 March 2026 (UTC) *:::Make a category for it, and redirect a main namespace page to the category. See how [[Australia]] does this, for example. Please fix this today as I am publishing now! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:09, 24 March 2026 (UTC) *::(I used an AI tool to transcribe the quotes) [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 17:11, 19 March 2026 (UTC) :::: Adding to [[:Category:AI usage declared]]. See [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#Consensus assessment and possible next steps]] for details.[[Category:AI usage declared]] [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 06:40, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :::::I'm not sure I should have declared this, since the language was unclear. AI was not used in the writing of this article. The current declaration does not seem to be consistent with the discussion linked. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:26, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :::::: As [[#c-Tduk-20260319171100-Tduk-20260318025400|you stated]], AI was used to generate the transcript, and at least one known error introduced during that process carried through into the article. :::::: Because the transcript informed the article’s content, this constitutes AI use in a step that directly affected the published material. :::::: Based on [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#Consensus assessment and possible next steps|the discussion linked above]], there appears to be a general preference for transparency around AI usage so its impact on the project can be evaluated.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:45, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5000969 [Passed] == {{Peer_reviewed | revid = 5000969 | copyright = pass | newsworthy = exception | verifiable = pass | npov = pass | style = pass | reviewer = Gryllida | comments = I did minor edits and strongly recommend writing the report immediately after the event, not five days after. The month that is being celebrated, is already almost over now... I wanted to suggest video or audio uploads from such events if organisers and performers allow this. Thank you so much for the report. Keep up the great work. | time = 09:16, March 24, 2026 (UTC) }} -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:16, 24 March 2026 (UTC) == No notes provided == The article states notes were taken. However, no notes were provided. When interviews are done, they are typically transcribed as part of the notes per [[WN:OR]]. Simply stating one attended the event should not be considered sufficient notes.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Brian_McNeil/Wikinews_workflow#c-SVTCobra-2008-07-29T22:24:00.000Z-Workflow_with_Original_reporting] Notes should include what was observed by the reporter.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 11:49, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :I didn't add that text, but my guess is that it's referring to the audio and visual notes I sent to scoop, discussed above. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:23, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :: @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]], no notes came through to scoop, only two audio files (one .wav and one .mp3) and one photo. :: Please add the notes to the talk page, minus any private information of course, so that readers who want to verify them can. Thank you.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:48, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::I did not get what you are wanting. If I was attending, I would have come back home with a piece of paper with the person name who introduced event, plus audio recording. That is essentially all OR that was added to the page as other information was already provided online. Are you requesting piece of paper with two words on it? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 17:55, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::: 1. As [[User:SVTCobra|SVTCobra]] stated in [[User talk:Brian McNeil/Wikinews workflow#c-SVTCobra-2008-07-29T22:24:00.000Z-Workflow_with_Original_reporting|the post linked above]], "The current policy is fine, but we don't enforce it enough. There are to many "I was there" type of notes."<br>2. [[WN:OR]] states "You must be able to provide evidence of everything you include in an original article." Notes are considered a source document.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews_talk:Original_reporting#What_does_Original_Reporting_require?] It also states: "Include everything you can, including (for example) transcripts of interviews and e-mails."<br>3. [[WN:CS]] requires all facts to be supported by a source<br>4. [[WN:REV]] requires reviewers to verify all the facts :::: Without notes, how did you as a reviewer verify all the facts that aren't supported by the two web pages listed as sources? Where is the transcript? Was this another pseudo-review in which only the 5Ws were verified?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:18, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::I did not need a 101, I needed clarification what exactly you are expecting the notes to include, for this specific page. Please clarify this here. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 18:22, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::No, it was not a 5W-only review. That is a serious accusation to me and I ask it to be dismissed or otherwide it requires some serious evidence for it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 18:24, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::Text was included in article word to word, and audio was provided. I am not seeing what else may be missing for a verification to occur. I am requesting your clarification what is missing. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 18:26, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :: @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] were there any additional notes that you took or was there just the two audio file and one photo? :: If that is the extent of the notes, please add the full transcripts of both interviews as required by [[WN:OR]], minus any private information of course. :: Please also note for future OR, anything "original" in the article that is not supported by the listed sources, must be supported by some form of note provided in the talk page. Thank you.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:33, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::The transcripts are identical to what is in the article. I put them in directly, unchanged. Are you just asking me to copy it back here? or are you asking me to transcribe additional material which was not used, and not yet transcribe? In either case, what specifically in [[WN:OR]] backs up that request? I am not seeing anything relating to this, only that notes need to be on the Talk page. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 18:37, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::: @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]], what is documented in the article is not the full transcripts. I just listened to the file titled cheryl.wav and it includes your question as well as additional response from Cheryl that is not included in the article. :::: Regarding the pertinent quotes from [[WN:OR]] that require notes as well as transcripts, [[#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260324181800-Gryllida-20260324175500|see above comment]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 20:07, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::I think it would help us all understand what you want if you directly answered my question. "are you asking me to transcribe additional material which was not used?" Your answer appears to be yes. Again you linked to [[WN:OR]] but you did not (as I asked you to) show which section of it you think states that entire transcripts, and not just relevant (unedited) sections, need to be included. Posting the relevant policy which asks for this may help avoid you having to ask for unclear things in the future. It will also affect interview strategy going forward, if in order to include a sentence quote it is required to transcribe and proofread a potentially hour long interview. Alternatively, I could have edited the interview before sending it to scoop. It's not clear to me why you are asking what you are asking, and you have not explicitly showed where policy asks for what you are asking for (which I think is entire transcripts of all discussions). [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:22, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::: I'm asking you to transcribe both interviews in their entirety, minus any personal information. This way readers of the article can see what questions were asked and the entire answer given, even if it was not included in the article. :::::: > ''Again you linked to [[WN:OR]] but you did not (as I asked you to) show which section of it you think states that entire transcripts, and not just relevant (unedited) sections, need to be included.'' :::::: The quote is above. In the linked post. For your convenience, here is the quote again: "Include everything you can, including (for example) transcripts of interviews and e-mails." :::::: everything.you.can[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 20:27, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::I think it's reasonable to assume (as I did) that this refers to raw transcripts of interviews which are included in the article, not that every word spoken and deemed not worthy of including needs to be transcribed. That is the whole point of scoop verification. Can we get a third opinion on how this needs to be interpreted? or rather, fourth opinion, since it seems to be only you who here has this interpretation. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:38, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: For clarification, please see also the [[Wikinews:Pillars of writing]] states "OR requires '''thorough''' reporter's notes;" :::::::: It further states: "OR notes '''publicly document''' where the information comes from for '''both verification and authentication'''; :::::::: It further states: "aim for '''substantially more documentation than needed''', rather than for sufficiency. [emphasis added]"[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:11, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: See also: [[Wikinews:Writing an article]], which states "leave detailed notes about the original reporting on the discussion page." :::::::: And [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance/archives/2023/July#c-Heavy_Water-20230705232100-Asheiou-20230705230600|this interpretation]]: "One is always advised to aim to provide more notes than necessary."[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:18, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: Here's yet [[Wikinews:Accreditation_requests/yussufey#c-Gryllida-2014-09-09T23:06:00.000Z-Vot|another interpretation]]: "Handing out accreditation to anyone and everyone willing to start is a nice beast, but what we risk here is someone taking a couple pretty pictures but not taking proper notes due to lack of understanding of what has to go to an article for it to be rock solid regarding neutrality and accuracy."[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 23:57, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::::So you are requesting to include all transcribings here (via email to scoop) because you are concerned that something essential may have been omitted and that may have compromised accuracy or neutrality of the report. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:56, 25 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::::: The issue is not a concern that something ''may'' have been omitted. The issue is that additional interview content exists beyond what is documented, and the reporting is not supported by notes that function as a publicly available source. :::::::::: For original reporting, notes are expected to be published on the talk page (with only sensitive personal information withheld) so that both reviewers and readers can verify what was said and in what context. Providing audio privately, whether directly to a reviewer or via Scoop, does not meet that standard. :::::::::: Where interview content extends beyond what is included in the article, the notes must include enough of that material to demonstrate that quotes are accurate, complete, and not taken out of context. A transcript is the most straightforward way to provide that in this case. :::::::::: The request is therefore to add sufficient notes to the talk page to allow independent, public verification of the original reporting.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:21, 25 March 2026 (UTC) :Yeah, I received the notes above and in scoop. I added that text for the reader's benefit so that they understand what happened. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 17:01, 24 March 2026 (UTC) == I found an error. == There is may an issue I noticed. [[User:Anikmolla786|Anikmolla786]] ([[User talk:Anikmolla786|talk]]) 13:08, 26 March 2026 (UTC) :The performance started at 6:00 p.m. New York Time (2200 UTC), and was introduced by director of adult services Jeffrey Katz."6:00 p.m. New York Time (2300 UTC)" In March, New York is on Eastern Daylight Time (UTC-4), so 6:00 p.m. = 22:00 UTC, not 23:00. I made an edit too. If you find that I'm correct then approve that or ask for approval. [[User:Anikmolla786|Anikmolla786]] ([[User talk:Anikmolla786|talk]]) 13:09, 26 March 2026 (UTC) opaq9jr7ermohrlyf0o9crc3t5x6hyi 5005112 5005065 2026-04-05T16:23:54Z Tduk 411937 /* OR notes */ Reply 5005112 wikitext text/x-wiki == OR notes == I attended the event, performed a short interview I recorded, and will email scoop the appropriate two sound files that are referenced in the article. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:40, 16 March 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Tduk}} There is a quote in this article that says, "So we are celebrating Women's History Month with music '''lipo''' fun." (Emphasis added.) Is that a typo? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:09, 18 March 2026 (UTC) *:Good catch, that was a transcription bug.. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 02:54, 18 March 2026 (UTC) *::I'm a bit unsure of the correct way to have Downtown Music Gallery point to the fact that we have published articles about it before. Can anyone advise? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 02:55, 18 March 2026 (UTC) *:::Make a category for it, and redirect a main namespace page to the category. See how [[Australia]] does this, for example. Please fix this today as I am publishing now! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:09, 24 March 2026 (UTC) *::(I used an AI tool to transcribe the quotes) [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 17:11, 19 March 2026 (UTC) :::: Adding to [[:Category:AI usage declared]]. See [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#Consensus assessment and possible next steps]] for details.[[Category:AI usage declared]] [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 06:40, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :::::I'm not sure I should have declared this, since the language was unclear. AI was not used in the writing of this article. The current declaration does not seem to be consistent with the discussion linked. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:26, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :::::: As [[#c-Tduk-20260319171100-Tduk-20260318025400|you stated]], AI was used to generate the transcript, and at least one known error introduced during that process carried through into the article. :::::: Because the transcript informed the article’s content, this constitutes AI use in a step that directly affected the published material. :::::: Based on [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#Consensus assessment and possible next steps|the discussion linked above]], there appears to be a general preference for transparency around AI usage so its impact on the project can be evaluated.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:45, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :::::::As you stated at that thread you linked, the scope of the original proposal is unclear. Without a more rigid definition, it appears you and I have different interpretations of what is meant by the term in this context; I suggest someone clarifies it further and supplies reasoning. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:23, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5000969 [Passed] == {{Peer_reviewed | revid = 5000969 | copyright = pass | newsworthy = exception | verifiable = pass | npov = pass | style = pass | reviewer = Gryllida | comments = I did minor edits and strongly recommend writing the report immediately after the event, not five days after. The month that is being celebrated, is already almost over now... I wanted to suggest video or audio uploads from such events if organisers and performers allow this. Thank you so much for the report. Keep up the great work. | time = 09:16, March 24, 2026 (UTC) }} -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:16, 24 March 2026 (UTC) == No notes provided == The article states notes were taken. However, no notes were provided. When interviews are done, they are typically transcribed as part of the notes per [[WN:OR]]. Simply stating one attended the event should not be considered sufficient notes.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Brian_McNeil/Wikinews_workflow#c-SVTCobra-2008-07-29T22:24:00.000Z-Workflow_with_Original_reporting] Notes should include what was observed by the reporter.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 11:49, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :I didn't add that text, but my guess is that it's referring to the audio and visual notes I sent to scoop, discussed above. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:23, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :: @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]], no notes came through to scoop, only two audio files (one .wav and one .mp3) and one photo. :: Please add the notes to the talk page, minus any private information of course, so that readers who want to verify them can. Thank you.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:48, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::I did not get what you are wanting. If I was attending, I would have come back home with a piece of paper with the person name who introduced event, plus audio recording. That is essentially all OR that was added to the page as other information was already provided online. Are you requesting piece of paper with two words on it? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 17:55, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::: 1. As [[User:SVTCobra|SVTCobra]] stated in [[User talk:Brian McNeil/Wikinews workflow#c-SVTCobra-2008-07-29T22:24:00.000Z-Workflow_with_Original_reporting|the post linked above]], "The current policy is fine, but we don't enforce it enough. There are to many "I was there" type of notes."<br>2. [[WN:OR]] states "You must be able to provide evidence of everything you include in an original article." Notes are considered a source document.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews_talk:Original_reporting#What_does_Original_Reporting_require?] It also states: "Include everything you can, including (for example) transcripts of interviews and e-mails."<br>3. [[WN:CS]] requires all facts to be supported by a source<br>4. [[WN:REV]] requires reviewers to verify all the facts :::: Without notes, how did you as a reviewer verify all the facts that aren't supported by the two web pages listed as sources? Where is the transcript? Was this another pseudo-review in which only the 5Ws were verified?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:18, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::I did not need a 101, I needed clarification what exactly you are expecting the notes to include, for this specific page. Please clarify this here. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 18:22, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::No, it was not a 5W-only review. That is a serious accusation to me and I ask it to be dismissed or otherwide it requires some serious evidence for it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 18:24, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::Text was included in article word to word, and audio was provided. I am not seeing what else may be missing for a verification to occur. I am requesting your clarification what is missing. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 18:26, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :: @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] were there any additional notes that you took or was there just the two audio file and one photo? :: If that is the extent of the notes, please add the full transcripts of both interviews as required by [[WN:OR]], minus any private information of course. :: Please also note for future OR, anything "original" in the article that is not supported by the listed sources, must be supported by some form of note provided in the talk page. Thank you.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:33, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::The transcripts are identical to what is in the article. I put them in directly, unchanged. Are you just asking me to copy it back here? or are you asking me to transcribe additional material which was not used, and not yet transcribe? In either case, what specifically in [[WN:OR]] backs up that request? I am not seeing anything relating to this, only that notes need to be on the Talk page. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 18:37, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::: @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]], what is documented in the article is not the full transcripts. I just listened to the file titled cheryl.wav and it includes your question as well as additional response from Cheryl that is not included in the article. :::: Regarding the pertinent quotes from [[WN:OR]] that require notes as well as transcripts, [[#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260324181800-Gryllida-20260324175500|see above comment]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 20:07, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::I think it would help us all understand what you want if you directly answered my question. "are you asking me to transcribe additional material which was not used?" Your answer appears to be yes. Again you linked to [[WN:OR]] but you did not (as I asked you to) show which section of it you think states that entire transcripts, and not just relevant (unedited) sections, need to be included. Posting the relevant policy which asks for this may help avoid you having to ask for unclear things in the future. It will also affect interview strategy going forward, if in order to include a sentence quote it is required to transcribe and proofread a potentially hour long interview. Alternatively, I could have edited the interview before sending it to scoop. It's not clear to me why you are asking what you are asking, and you have not explicitly showed where policy asks for what you are asking for (which I think is entire transcripts of all discussions). [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:22, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::: I'm asking you to transcribe both interviews in their entirety, minus any personal information. This way readers of the article can see what questions were asked and the entire answer given, even if it was not included in the article. :::::: > ''Again you linked to [[WN:OR]] but you did not (as I asked you to) show which section of it you think states that entire transcripts, and not just relevant (unedited) sections, need to be included.'' :::::: The quote is above. In the linked post. For your convenience, here is the quote again: "Include everything you can, including (for example) transcripts of interviews and e-mails." :::::: everything.you.can[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 20:27, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::I think it's reasonable to assume (as I did) that this refers to raw transcripts of interviews which are included in the article, not that every word spoken and deemed not worthy of including needs to be transcribed. That is the whole point of scoop verification. Can we get a third opinion on how this needs to be interpreted? or rather, fourth opinion, since it seems to be only you who here has this interpretation. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:38, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: For clarification, please see also the [[Wikinews:Pillars of writing]] states "OR requires '''thorough''' reporter's notes;" :::::::: It further states: "OR notes '''publicly document''' where the information comes from for '''both verification and authentication'''; :::::::: It further states: "aim for '''substantially more documentation than needed''', rather than for sufficiency. [emphasis added]"[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:11, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: See also: [[Wikinews:Writing an article]], which states "leave detailed notes about the original reporting on the discussion page." :::::::: And [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance/archives/2023/July#c-Heavy_Water-20230705232100-Asheiou-20230705230600|this interpretation]]: "One is always advised to aim to provide more notes than necessary."[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:18, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: Here's yet [[Wikinews:Accreditation_requests/yussufey#c-Gryllida-2014-09-09T23:06:00.000Z-Vot|another interpretation]]: "Handing out accreditation to anyone and everyone willing to start is a nice beast, but what we risk here is someone taking a couple pretty pictures but not taking proper notes due to lack of understanding of what has to go to an article for it to be rock solid regarding neutrality and accuracy."[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 23:57, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::::So you are requesting to include all transcribings here (via email to scoop) because you are concerned that something essential may have been omitted and that may have compromised accuracy or neutrality of the report. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:56, 25 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::::: The issue is not a concern that something ''may'' have been omitted. The issue is that additional interview content exists beyond what is documented, and the reporting is not supported by notes that function as a publicly available source. :::::::::: For original reporting, notes are expected to be published on the talk page (with only sensitive personal information withheld) so that both reviewers and readers can verify what was said and in what context. Providing audio privately, whether directly to a reviewer or via Scoop, does not meet that standard. :::::::::: Where interview content extends beyond what is included in the article, the notes must include enough of that material to demonstrate that quotes are accurate, complete, and not taken out of context. A transcript is the most straightforward way to provide that in this case. :::::::::: The request is therefore to add sufficient notes to the talk page to allow independent, public verification of the original reporting.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:21, 25 March 2026 (UTC) :Yeah, I received the notes above and in scoop. I added that text for the reader's benefit so that they understand what happened. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 17:01, 24 March 2026 (UTC) == I found an error. == There is may an issue I noticed. [[User:Anikmolla786|Anikmolla786]] ([[User talk:Anikmolla786|talk]]) 13:08, 26 March 2026 (UTC) :The performance started at 6:00 p.m. New York Time (2200 UTC), and was introduced by director of adult services Jeffrey Katz."6:00 p.m. New York Time (2300 UTC)" In March, New York is on Eastern Daylight Time (UTC-4), so 6:00 p.m. = 22:00 UTC, not 23:00. I made an edit too. If you find that I'm correct then approve that or ask for approval. [[User:Anikmolla786|Anikmolla786]] ([[User talk:Anikmolla786|talk]]) 13:09, 26 March 2026 (UTC) pmhi36iarjaaalys0k4zv0rmwsnq5hs 0 3084942 5005343 5004755 2026-04-06T08:53:42Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Marking article as under review (via [[WN:EzPR_2025|EasyPeerReview 2025]]) 5005343 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Under review}} {{Review}} {{Date|March 13, 2026}} [[File:Performance gala 2026 08.jpg|thumb|dancers at the entrance to the opening reception{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}}]] On March 13, 2026, The Performance Space in New York City held its annual Gala. The event featured an opening cocktail party at 6PM, a dinner at 8PM which featured performances and honorees, and an afterparty at 10PM. The year’s honorees were fashion designer {{w|Michèle Lamy}}, artist {{w|Paul McCarthy}}, and writer {{W|Samuel R. Delany}}. The event was nearly sold out and the room was packed with hundreds of people. The opening reception where people mingled was held in an outdoor heated area behind the venue. Servers who wore kinky outfits came out holding sculptures of prepared foods, which include baos, and variations on sushi. The main dinner was held upstairs on the fifth floor, where people were seated at their assigned tables. The foods served included a beef dish, pasta with meat, a mushroom option, and a bed of rice. While dinner was served, performances would occur, with breaks in between them. Some of these performances included burlesque elements. The performers listed on the program were {{w|Moses Sumney}}, {{w|Yseult (singer)|Yseult}}, Alok, {{w|Star Amerasu}}, Arewà Basit, Alex Takarsky, Jonah Almost, and Ruby McCollister. Yseult performed several songs at the start of the ceremony. About an hour into the ceremony, a performer read from Delany's book ''{{w|Times Square Red, Times Square Blue}}'', which led into an introduction of Delany, who was the first to be honored and gave a short speech. About 15 minutes later, McCarthy was honored and also gave a short speech. Lastly, Lamy was honored; she was not in attendance but had recorded a video message. This was followed by a performance of several songs by Sumney, who was backed only by a guitarist. The afterparty was down the hall from the main reception area, and was in a barely lit dark room with dance music and easily obtained drinks. Outside the venue, people were lining up to attend the afterparty. == Gallery == {{Sisters|commons|Category:20260313 Performance Space GALA}} <gallery> File:Pergala020202 09.jpg|Sushi on daikon radish{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}} File:Performance gala 2026 10.jpg|Assisting people at the elevator{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}} File:Pergala020202 10.jpg|Posing at the opening reception{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}} File:Pergala020202 04.jpg|Chicken and vegetable buns on a sculpture{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}} File:Performance gala 2026 29.jpg|A performer dangles meat out of their mouth while standing on one of the dinner tables{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}} </gallery> == Sources == {{Original reporting}} *{{source |url =https://performancespacenewyork.org/shows/gala-2026/ |title = Performance Space New York Gala 2026 |author = Performance Space New York |pub = Performance Space New York |date = unclear |archiveurl = |brokenURL = }} *{{source |url = https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVRkgZ9jurn/ |title = 24th Annual LADY GOT CHOPS WOMEN’S HISTORY MONTH MUSIC AND ARTS CALENDAR 2026 |author = FEEL EVERYTHING |pub = Instagram |date = February 27, 2026 |archiveurl = |brokenURL = }} *{{source | url = https://www.pinupmagazine.org/articles/performance-space-gala-feel-everything | title = FEELING EVERYTHING AT THE PERFORMANCE SPACE GALA | author = Michael Bullock | pub = Pin-Up (magazine) | date = ? }} [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:New York, New York]] hpkayjk0y8z8n95bfl9y1g23sd67465 5005346 5005343 2026-04-06T09:00:49Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Not ready when reviewed: article needs improvement(s). Add article flag. (via [[WN:EzPR_2025|EasyPeerReview 2025]]) 5005346 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Tasks|mos|re-review}} {{Date|March 13, 2026}} [[File:Performance gala 2026 08.jpg|thumb|dancers at the entrance to the opening reception{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}}]] On March 13, 2026, The Performance Space in New York City held its annual Gala. The event featured an opening cocktail party at 6PM, a dinner at 8PM which featured performances and honorees, and an afterparty at 10PM. The year’s honorees were fashion designer {{w|Michèle Lamy}}, artist {{w|Paul McCarthy}}, and writer {{W|Samuel R. Delany}}. The event was nearly sold out and the room was packed with hundreds of people. The opening reception where people mingled was held in an outdoor heated area behind the venue. Servers who wore kinky outfits came out holding sculptures of prepared foods, which include baos, and variations on sushi. The main dinner was held upstairs on the fifth floor, where people were seated at their assigned tables. The foods served included a beef dish, pasta with meat, a mushroom option, and a bed of rice. While dinner was served, performances would occur, with breaks in between them. Some of these performances included burlesque elements. The performers listed on the program were {{w|Moses Sumney}}, {{w|Yseult (singer)|Yseult}}, Alok, {{w|Star Amerasu}}, Arewà Basit, Alex Takarsky, Jonah Almost, and Ruby McCollister. Yseult performed several songs at the start of the ceremony. About an hour into the ceremony, a performer read from Delany's book ''{{w|Times Square Red, Times Square Blue}}'', which led into an introduction of Delany, who was the first to be honored and gave a short speech. About 15 minutes later, McCarthy was honored and also gave a short speech. Lastly, Lamy was honored; she was not in attendance but had recorded a video message. This was followed by a performance of several songs by Sumney, who was backed only by a guitarist. The afterparty was down the hall from the main reception area, and was in a barely lit dark room with dance music and easily obtained drinks. Outside the venue, people were lining up to attend the afterparty. == Gallery == {{Sisters|commons|Category:20260313 Performance Space GALA}} <gallery> File:Pergala020202 09.jpg|Sushi on daikon radish{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}} File:Performance gala 2026 10.jpg|Assisting people at the elevator{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}} File:Pergala020202 10.jpg|Posing at the opening reception{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}} File:Pergala020202 04.jpg|Chicken and vegetable buns on a sculpture{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}} File:Performance gala 2026 29.jpg|A performer dangles meat out of their mouth while standing on one of the dinner tables{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}} </gallery> == Sources == {{Original reporting}} *{{source |url =https://performancespacenewyork.org/shows/gala-2026/ |title = Performance Space New York Gala 2026 |author = Performance Space New York |pub = Performance Space New York |date = unclear |archiveurl = |brokenURL = }} *{{source |url = https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVRkgZ9jurn/ |title = 24th Annual LADY GOT CHOPS WOMEN’S HISTORY MONTH MUSIC AND ARTS CALENDAR 2026 |author = FEEL EVERYTHING |pub = Instagram |date = February 27, 2026 |archiveurl = |brokenURL = }} *{{source | url = https://www.pinupmagazine.org/articles/performance-space-gala-feel-everything | title = FEELING EVERYTHING AT THE PERFORMANCE SPACE GALA | author = Michael Bullock | pub = Pin-Up (magazine) | date = ? }} [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:New York, New York]] 25gsdurb91vvkppd1dyrbo12b4l29vp 1 3084948 5005347 5002831 2026-04-06T09:00:49Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Review of revision 5005343 5005347 wikitext text/x-wiki == OR notes == I attended this event. I have some video recordings, but as far as I know all the claims can be backed up by the photos I am uploading and the sources included - happy to supply anything else that is needed. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 21:58, 16 March 2026 (UTC) :Hello! A few suggestions @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] : :* mention "a volunteer cobtributor to Wikinews attended the event" to first paragraph [essential item, noting this is exclusive report] :* add attribution to "The event was nearly sold out" [minimize bias] :* headline says "3 artists", text says "1 artist + 1 something + 1 something else". is this consistent? [Cross checking...] :* could you use active voice in the text? See like "people were seated", "The performers listed on the program were" that is encyclopedic tone. This should, where possible, be replaced with active voice with VERBS as much as possible. [Style] :* in first paragraph and last paragraph clarify what this is about. Like what is the purpose of the event and who is running it. The recount of that in the last paragraph can include some background material like when did the galas start happening in the first place. [WHY of the 5W] :Hope this is helpful. Sorry for the delay, my brain was a bit downtime-ish recently (and still is). [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:52, 23 March 2026 (UTC) :p.s. yes please send one or two video recordings to scoop, that would be helpful as an internal record. :P.p.s. Can they not be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons? Did you identify yourself as a Wikimedian, and receive permission to take videos, from event organisers? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:55, 23 March 2026 (UTC) ::I don't identify as a Wikimedian typically, and since I don't have accreditation there didn't seem a point. They did know I was taking photos, I was not concentrating on taking videos since there was a lot of press there who was better situated to do that and I don't like doing redundant work. I'll see if I have anything additional I can send to scoop. I did get some audio from the event to assist in writing up the timing. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 12:29, 23 March 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5000627 [Not ready] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=5000627|copyright=n/a|newsworthy=Stale|verifiable=n/a|npov=n/a|style=n/a|reviewer=Bddpaux|comments=Sorry this went stale -- a notable effort!!|time=19:54, 29 March 2026 (UTC)}} : I would like to point out that this story is 16 days old, yet your story [[Wikinews interviews magician and illusion builder Bruce Chadwick for National Magic Week]] was 20 days old when published. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:10, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5005343 [Not Ready] == {{Peer_reviewed | revid = 5005343 | copyright = n/a | newsworthy = n/a | verifiable = n/a | npov = n/a | style = Please use the {{source}} template properly. | reviewer = Michael.C.Wright | comments = Please follow the source listing format outlined in [[WN:SG#Linking_sources]] and [[:Template:Source]]. | time = 09:00, April 6, 2026 (UTC) }} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 09:00, 6 April 2026 (UTC) tklxvincvv2g19qfkrjf4wcecfbm97x 5005350 5005347 2026-04-06T09:02:29Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* Review of revision 5005343 [Not Ready] */ nowiki 5005350 wikitext text/x-wiki == OR notes == I attended this event. I have some video recordings, but as far as I know all the claims can be backed up by the photos I am uploading and the sources included - happy to supply anything else that is needed. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 21:58, 16 March 2026 (UTC) :Hello! A few suggestions @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] : :* mention "a volunteer cobtributor to Wikinews attended the event" to first paragraph [essential item, noting this is exclusive report] :* add attribution to "The event was nearly sold out" [minimize bias] :* headline says "3 artists", text says "1 artist + 1 something + 1 something else". is this consistent? [Cross checking...] :* could you use active voice in the text? See like "people were seated", "The performers listed on the program were" that is encyclopedic tone. This should, where possible, be replaced with active voice with VERBS as much as possible. [Style] :* in first paragraph and last paragraph clarify what this is about. Like what is the purpose of the event and who is running it. The recount of that in the last paragraph can include some background material like when did the galas start happening in the first place. [WHY of the 5W] :Hope this is helpful. Sorry for the delay, my brain was a bit downtime-ish recently (and still is). [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:52, 23 March 2026 (UTC) :p.s. yes please send one or two video recordings to scoop, that would be helpful as an internal record. :P.p.s. Can they not be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons? Did you identify yourself as a Wikimedian, and receive permission to take videos, from event organisers? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:55, 23 March 2026 (UTC) ::I don't identify as a Wikimedian typically, and since I don't have accreditation there didn't seem a point. They did know I was taking photos, I was not concentrating on taking videos since there was a lot of press there who was better situated to do that and I don't like doing redundant work. I'll see if I have anything additional I can send to scoop. I did get some audio from the event to assist in writing up the timing. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 12:29, 23 March 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5000627 [Not ready] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=5000627|copyright=n/a|newsworthy=Stale|verifiable=n/a|npov=n/a|style=n/a|reviewer=Bddpaux|comments=Sorry this went stale -- a notable effort!!|time=19:54, 29 March 2026 (UTC)}} : I would like to point out that this story is 16 days old, yet your story [[Wikinews interviews magician and illusion builder Bruce Chadwick for National Magic Week]] was 20 days old when published. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:10, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5005343 [Not Ready] == {{Peer_reviewed | revid = 5005343 | copyright = n/a | newsworthy = n/a | verifiable = n/a | npov = n/a | style = Please use the <nowiki>{{source}}</nowiki> template properly. | reviewer = Michael.C.Wright | comments = Please follow the source listing format outlined in [[WN:SG#Linking_sources]] and [[:Template:Source]]. | time = 09:00, April 6, 2026 (UTC) }} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 09:00, 6 April 2026 (UTC) ronhkd64b05x12gf10df84q2gept1xz 0 3084963 5005331 5004010 2026-04-06T08:06:28Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Mark as abandoned. 5005331 wikitext text/x-wiki {{abandoned|April 6, 2026|}} {{US politics}} {{date|March 16, 2026}} <!--leave this as it is--> [[File:Susie_Wiles_(crop).jpg|thumb|left|Trump chief of staff Susie Wiles {{image source|The White House}}]] On Monday, US President [[Donald Trump]] announced on social media that {{w|Susie Wiles}}, his 68-year-old chief of staff was diagnosed with early stage {{w|breast cancer}}. She stated that she intended to remain in her position while she received treatment. Trump stated in a post to {{w|Truth Social}} that her prognosis was "excellent," though the specifics regarding her treatment had yet to be decided. Wiles has served in her position since Trump reassumed office in January of 2025. She had previously served as his campaign manager in the [[2024 US presidential election]] the Florida campaign chair for {{w|Trump 2016|Trump's 2016 campaign}}. Before that, she had been associated with Republican politicians such as [[Mitt Romney]] and {{w|Rick Scott}}. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == <!--Use at least two independent sources.--> *{{source |url = https://www.axios.com/2026/03/16/susie-wiles-breast-cancer-diagnosis-trump |title = White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles has early stage breast cancer |author = Marc Caputo |pub = Axios |date = March 16, 2026 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/16/wiles-announces-cancer-diagnosis-plans-to-stay-in-job-00829598 |title = Wiles announces cancer diagnosis, plans to stay in job |author = Cheyenne Haslett |pub = Politico |date = March 16, 2026 |archiveurl = }} [[Category:Health]] [[Category:Donald Trump]] [[Category:Washington, D.C.]] [[Category:Politicians]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] 0rewe6szi7xroxeh2n1in770m8vu0oe 0 3085859 5005330 5004004 2026-04-06T08:06:15Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Mark as abandoned. 5005330 wikitext text/x-wiki {{abandoned|April 6, 2026|}} {{date|March 20, 2026}} On Friday, March 20, India delivered approximately 2.5 tonnes of emergency medical supplies to {{W|Kabul}}, the capital of {{W|Afghanistan}}, following Monday's airstrike by {{W|Pakistan}} on a hospital that resulted in significant casualties. The Indian Ministry of External Affairs released a statement saying "India stands in solidarity with the Afghan people and will continue to extend all possible humanitarian support in this difficult hour." The aid was transported via a {{w|Kam Air}} flight and is intended to support treatment for victims of the March 16 attack on the Ibn Sina Drug Addiction Treatment Hospital, also known as Omid Camp, or "camp of hope" - which was set up a decade ago on an abandoned NATO base that was known as {{w|Camp Phoenix}}. According to the United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA), at least 143 people were killed and 119 others were injured in the incident;<!-- <ref>UNAMA casualty report, March 2026</ref> --> according to Afghan Interior Ministry spokesperson Abdul Mateen Qanie, there have been 408 deaths, with 265 people injured in the hospital, mostly civilians and patients. Authorities in Afghanistan have alleged that the airstrike was carried out by Pakistan's air force. However, Pakistan has denied the allegations, stating that its operations targeted military installations such as a "military terrorist ammunition and equipment storage site" allegedly located at Camp Phoenix several miles away from the Omid Hospital, and claiming that "The visible secondary detonations after the strikes clearly indicate the presence of large ammunition depots". As clarified by Kabul residents, Omid Hospital and Omid Camp are not related to each other. The Government of India did not assign responsibility for the attack but emphasized its commitment to humanitarian assistance. The medical supplies are aimed at strengthening healthcare response efforts in the aftermath of the incident. India has previously provided humanitarian aid to Afghanistan, including medicines, vaccines, and food supplies, particularly during times of crisis. == Sister links == {{sisters|w|2026 Kabul hospital airstrike}} == Sources == * {{source |url=https://www.storifynews.com/india-sends-2-5-tons-of-medical-aid-to-kabul-after-hospital-airstrike/ |title=India Sends 2.5 Tons of Medical Aid to Kabul After Hospital Airstrike |author=Parul Pathania |pub=Storify News |date=March 20, 2026 }} * {{source |url=https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/stand-in-solidarity-with-afghanistan-india-sends-2-5-ton-medical-aid-to-kabul-after-pakistani-strikes-on-rehab-centre/articleshow/129701714.cms |title='Stand in solidarity with Afghanistan': India sends 2.5-ton medical aid to Kabul after Pakistani strikes on rehab centre |author=TOI News Desk |pub=The Times of India |date=March 20, 2026 }} * {{source | url = https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/18/un-revises-kabul-rehab-strike-toll-as-pakistan-denies-targeting-civilians | title = UN revises Kabul rehab strike toll as Pakistan denies targeting civilians | author = Al Jazeera Staff | pub = Al Jazeera | date = March 18, 2026 | archiveurl = | lang = | medium = }} * {{source |url=https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/afghan-taliban-says-400-killed-250-injured-pakistan-air-strike-kabul-hospital-2026-03-17/ |title=Kabul says Pakistan airstrike kills 408 at rehab centre, Islamabad rejects claim |author=Mohammad Yunus Yawar, Ariba Shahid and Asif Shahzad |pub=Reuters |date=March 17, 2026 }} [[Category:India]] [[Category:Afghanistan]] [[Category:Pakistan]] [[Category:Health]] [[Category:International relations]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] ja4b0p5dl6tmyjingvgfv619ybebiy0 1 3087521 5005367 5004783 2026-04-06T09:48:25Z Gryllida 160590 /* Title change */ Reply 5005367 wikitext text/x-wiki == Original Reporting notes == I attended this performance, and recorded audio at points and took photos. I noted the lengths of the sets and discussed the high attendance informally with audience members. I discussed with Gallanter the idea of including his piece at the beginning here, and he approved. I will send scoop the relevant audio for the transcripts, as well as the ends of performances to illustrate the applause. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Tduk}} The 1949 session with Miles Davis and others should be identified as ''Birth of the Cool'', not ''Earth of Cool'', right? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:10, 28 March 2026 (UTC) *:Yes corrected. There are other corrections I imagine that need to happen too; I just sent the audio to scoop and when I have a moment I'll listen to it in full and correct anything. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:57, 1 April 2026 (UTC) {{collapse|Alright, I want to welcome everybody. This is Downtown Music Gallery. We have music here every Tuesday starting at 6.30. This has been going on for more than 25 years. Usually three bands. Over the last couple of years I've decided to do some more kind of thematic evenings. So tonight we have eight vocalists that are going to be singing for us. It's going to be a different night than what we usually have and I'm really glad about that. I prepared a little introduction that has to do with the history of jazz vocals and vocals in general. And it starts, you have to picture this, we're going to go back in time 315,000 years. That's considered to be the dawn of mankind. We're in North Africa, there is a tribe or whoever was there at the time. They're descendants of Adam and Eve. They're walking across the desert very slowly. This is before language, so the only sounds that they're able to create are vocal sounds without words. So this is how it starts. And they make their way, and they end up later became Israel and they grew over time until they became 12 tribes and then each one of those tribes left and one stayed in Israel and the rest of them traveled to different places on this planet. The last tribe ended up in the US in the Midwest. They're called the Lost Tribe of Israel and they became the first Native Americans And it took about 50,000 years for those tribes to evolve into having people all around our planet. And many languages came out of that. Every country, like 100 countries, each one had their own language. And every country, those languages would be hundreds of dialects. So you have all different types to the beginning of songs, vocal songs first, and then eventually percussion instruments, flutes, stringed instruments, and we're gonna move forward to the beginning of the 20th century. Between 1900 and 1920, this is like in the US, you have vaudeville bands, the very beginning of what became Dixieland and jazz. You also had kind of folk stuff going on. And as far as classical composers go, Igor Stravinsky and Béla Bartók and Edgar Varese composed pieces in the late teens and 20s, and that's kind of a beginning of, you know, all the pre-20th century classical stuff is more kind of melodic and easier to deal with, but when Stravinsky composed Rites of Spring, it was very violent. It had dancers dressed as animals, and people went wild when this music occurred. They flipped out, they couldn't deal with it, it was too much for them. So in their 20s, This is what happened. Duke Ellington's band moved from DC to New York. Count Basie's band moved from Kansas City to New York. And you had the beginning of an era called the big band era. And that existed from late 20s to around 1945. You had hundreds of big bands that would travel around the country and play. This was a form of entertainment for people. People would get together and they would dance. to see these big bands. My parents used to go out dancing on weekends in the 40s and check out these big bands. And there were a lot of them. And I've been listening to more and more just to get an idea of how things unfolded. And a lot of those big bands had singers in them. You probably know a few of the singers like Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holiday, people like that. And that era existed for about 20 years. And then when World War II happened and the world kind of changed in a lot of ways, all the big bands started to break up and stop playing. And when people got back from World War II, you had a new form of music that had occurred. And these were members of Billy Eckstine's big band, Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Max Roach, all these people. And they started something which was called Bebop. And the bebop was a small group thing. It was hard to play. It's very complex. And it was the first time that music, jazz music, was not about dancing and entertainment. It was about sitting and listening, snapping your fingers, creating poetry. And it affected other things, too. So dance, abstract art, all these things sort of came out of that. You had this hipster language that came out of the bebop thing. We'll hear Buddy Lauren doing some hipster language during his set, maybe. Who knows? And in 40, so we had the bebop thing. Now, that lasted approximately 10 years. And in 1949, you have a session called Earth of Cool. That's Miles Davis, Jerry Mulligan, Lee Konitz, Lenny Tristano. And that was another break from what the bebop thing was about. It was a cooler form. of jazz. And the weird thing was, those beboppers that we talked about who created the cool things, that was an East Coast thing, but the cool thing became more popular on the West Coast. So you had a whole West Coast school in the 50s of all those people doing the cool school stuff. Now also in the 50s, Dizzy Gillespie put together a big band. And in his big band, four members of his big band were John Lewis, Bill Jackson, Connie Kay, and Percy Heath. They started a quartet called the Modern Jazz Quartet. Now the thing about them is they wore tuxedos. They didn't want to play in bars. They wanted to be taken more seriously. So that is the beginning of another form of sort of jazz. And Dizzy Gillespie Big Band did a song called A Bird in Igor's Yard. That was written by George Russell. And it was supposed to be a blend of Charlie Parker and Igor Stravinsky. So a term was coined for that music. It was called third stream. It was coined by Gunther Schuller. So in the 50s, you had the end of bebop. You had the next phase of that, which is called hard bop. which is like bebop but with a little bit of funk in there. And you had people who invented that were Art Blakey and Horace Silver. So the 50s, let's talk about the 50s. The 50s, a lot of different changes in music were going on. You had some blues cats coming up from down south and making their way to Chicago and playing blues. You had R&B guys doing their thing. You had pop singers. You had also country and rockabilly. Elvis Presley comes from all those elements, including gospel. That's all part of his thing. And in 1959, this was a very important year. Three records came out that changed the future of jazz. One was Kind of Blue by Miles Davis Sextet, I guess, which is great. And it had this thing called modal jazz, which opened up the form to be a little bit freer. You had another record by the Dave Brubeck Quartet called Time Out. And that record included songs in weird time signatures. You had Blue Mondewala Turk and Take Five. So that is another kind of more progressive element that was very popular at the time. And another record that came out that year that wasn't noticed at the time was Sun Ra's record Jazz and Silhouette, which is a big band record, but it's very progressive. And then in California, you had Ornette Coleman Quartet, who moved to New York in 1960. They played for a month at the Five Spot. And when they played, it was very controversial. because no piano player, their music is very kind of free and open, and half the people who went to the gigs hated it, and the other half of the people loved it. And there was fighting going on about if it was important music or not, or if it was really jazz. All those arguments are going on. The same period of time, John Coltrane was playing in Miles Davis' quartet, and his solos were getting longer and longer. And he met up with John Gilmore, who was the sax player in Sun Ra's band, who was playing with multiphonics. And this is an early way of getting weird sounds on the sax that are now part of the vocabulary of the saxophone. So Coltrane is playing these long solos, and Miles said, you know, we're going on tour in Europe, 1960, and Trane says, I don't want to tour. I want to start my own band and I want to do my own thing." And Miles begs him, please go on tour. So he goes on tour for 60. After he does that tour, he starts his own quartet. And his own quartet's Elvin Jones, Jimmy Garrison, and McCoy Tyner. And so between 60 and 64 you have a freer form of jazz that's now coming out. Now also during that period of time you have the beginning of what we call protest singers. So you had like Woody Guthrie and then Pete Seeger and then you had Bob Dylan and these are people that wrote lyrics that talked about social justice and civil rights. This is a very important thing because it was a way of expressing how you felt and if you felt the world was unjust and you wanted to deal with it. I remember when I was at day camp, I was about eight years old, and I had to learn the words to Blown in the Wind by Bob Dylan, which is made popular by Peter, Paul, and Mary. And I learned the words, and I remember thinking to myself, this is fascinating. These words actually make me think about the unfairness of the world and what we can do about it. And I realized how much lyrics and voices really affected the way I saw the world. Before I started reading newspapers, music was the one thing that spoke to me. And the more music I listened to, the more different types of music I listened to, all those things were part of my understanding of the world. I discovered a band called The Mothers of Invention when I was 13. That's Frank Zappa's band, and Frank Zappa had this view about the unfairness of society. He wrote a song called Trouble Every Day. It's a long protest song. I haven't memorized, but I'm not going to do it now because this is more about other people tonight. No, no, no. I'll do it. I've done it here once, and I'll do it again. But it's very long. But I think it's an important thing. Now, the vocal thing. this is all changing over time we have jazz vocalists singing with big bands singing on the road and then in the sixties people start experimenting with their voices uh... so you have people like gene lee uh... who else? harry woodard jay clayton yes I mean, a lot of these people I got to know in the 70s. I remember seeing, late 70s, Ellen Christie. She was at a jam session I was at in New Jersey, and she was great. And I didn't know who she was. And Lisa Sokoloff, I remember seeing. I saw Jean Lee play a bunch of times, because I was friendly with her, and Gunther Hoppel. But I've always been attracted to vocalists, strong vocalists, and also vocalists who take chances and learn how to do different things with their voices. So we're going to celebrate vocalists tonight. We have eight of them that are going to be playing in four sets. All of them are different. They're all coming from different places. They're all going to speak to us in different ways. I'm glad to see more people here than what we usually have. I think that's a beautiful thing. I'll do more thematic things in the future. And I want to thank all you people out there for showing up. And the first set is going to start. And Skylar here, he was here on Saturday night with a band. And man, he blew me away. He is really something else. That's all I'm going to say. }}[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:21, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :sent to scoop [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 00:30, 2 April 2026 (UTC) : Four emails were received via Scoop, collectively containing four MP3 audio files. No additional notes were included, either as attachments or within the body of the emails.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 06:31, 4 April 2026 (UTC) ::My mistake, I didn't include the notes since I didn't use them: First performance runtime about 22 minutes. Second about 10 minutes. Third about 30 minutes. Fourth also about 30 minutes. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:10, 4 April 2026 (UTC) == Title change == I'm not sure the new title communicates that the performance featured exclusively vocalists. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:25, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] :1. An uninformed reader, especially foreigner, may ask: "What is a vocalist?". Please wikilink or clarify. :2. Can "The venue was so highly attended that the entire store was full, and people were watching from outside the entrance to the store." be worded to clarify: is this normally the case for such events at this space? :3. What is an 'experimental vocalist'? Please clarify. :4. Can the time when the event started, and when it ended, be included either in the first or in the second paragraph? :5. Is the website being a pest, or are images only 100px wide? I suggest using the gallery tag to include images at the end of the story in full size. Often the widths parameter is set to at least 800px and the heights parameters is set to 600px (correct me if i am wrong; check the photo essay category for previous submissions). :This is not an actionable note, I think the image quality or post processing could be improved. Like this camera does not cope very well with darker environment. :As noted previously, it is better to report on this much sooner after it happened. I suggest that you team up with a friend to help you with transcription and write-up. This can be either IRL friend or an online peer who is responsive and is accurate and understands, or wants to understand, what needs to be done. It would be ideal if submissions did not occur two weeks after the event each time. :I think items 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 can be addressed before publishing. Hope this makes sense. :Many thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:48, 6 April 2026 (UTC) 0jcqmfel9adz4sgeu6epzy47jckki1q 5005370 5005367 2026-04-06T10:14:28Z Gryllida 160590 /* Title change */ +1 5005370 wikitext text/x-wiki == Original Reporting notes == I attended this performance, and recorded audio at points and took photos. I noted the lengths of the sets and discussed the high attendance informally with audience members. I discussed with Gallanter the idea of including his piece at the beginning here, and he approved. I will send scoop the relevant audio for the transcripts, as well as the ends of performances to illustrate the applause. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Tduk}} The 1949 session with Miles Davis and others should be identified as ''Birth of the Cool'', not ''Earth of Cool'', right? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:10, 28 March 2026 (UTC) *:Yes corrected. There are other corrections I imagine that need to happen too; I just sent the audio to scoop and when I have a moment I'll listen to it in full and correct anything. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:57, 1 April 2026 (UTC) {{collapse|Alright, I want to welcome everybody. This is Downtown Music Gallery. We have music here every Tuesday starting at 6.30. This has been going on for more than 25 years. Usually three bands. Over the last couple of years I've decided to do some more kind of thematic evenings. So tonight we have eight vocalists that are going to be singing for us. It's going to be a different night than what we usually have and I'm really glad about that. I prepared a little introduction that has to do with the history of jazz vocals and vocals in general. And it starts, you have to picture this, we're going to go back in time 315,000 years. That's considered to be the dawn of mankind. We're in North Africa, there is a tribe or whoever was there at the time. They're descendants of Adam and Eve. They're walking across the desert very slowly. This is before language, so the only sounds that they're able to create are vocal sounds without words. So this is how it starts. And they make their way, and they end up later became Israel and they grew over time until they became 12 tribes and then each one of those tribes left and one stayed in Israel and the rest of them traveled to different places on this planet. The last tribe ended up in the US in the Midwest. They're called the Lost Tribe of Israel and they became the first Native Americans And it took about 50,000 years for those tribes to evolve into having people all around our planet. And many languages came out of that. Every country, like 100 countries, each one had their own language. And every country, those languages would be hundreds of dialects. So you have all different types to the beginning of songs, vocal songs first, and then eventually percussion instruments, flutes, stringed instruments, and we're gonna move forward to the beginning of the 20th century. Between 1900 and 1920, this is like in the US, you have vaudeville bands, the very beginning of what became Dixieland and jazz. You also had kind of folk stuff going on. And as far as classical composers go, Igor Stravinsky and Béla Bartók and Edgar Varese composed pieces in the late teens and 20s, and that's kind of a beginning of, you know, all the pre-20th century classical stuff is more kind of melodic and easier to deal with, but when Stravinsky composed Rites of Spring, it was very violent. It had dancers dressed as animals, and people went wild when this music occurred. They flipped out, they couldn't deal with it, it was too much for them. So in their 20s, This is what happened. Duke Ellington's band moved from DC to New York. Count Basie's band moved from Kansas City to New York. And you had the beginning of an era called the big band era. And that existed from late 20s to around 1945. You had hundreds of big bands that would travel around the country and play. This was a form of entertainment for people. People would get together and they would dance. to see these big bands. My parents used to go out dancing on weekends in the 40s and check out these big bands. And there were a lot of them. And I've been listening to more and more just to get an idea of how things unfolded. And a lot of those big bands had singers in them. You probably know a few of the singers like Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holiday, people like that. And that era existed for about 20 years. And then when World War II happened and the world kind of changed in a lot of ways, all the big bands started to break up and stop playing. And when people got back from World War II, you had a new form of music that had occurred. And these were members of Billy Eckstine's big band, Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Max Roach, all these people. And they started something which was called Bebop. And the bebop was a small group thing. It was hard to play. It's very complex. And it was the first time that music, jazz music, was not about dancing and entertainment. It was about sitting and listening, snapping your fingers, creating poetry. And it affected other things, too. So dance, abstract art, all these things sort of came out of that. You had this hipster language that came out of the bebop thing. We'll hear Buddy Lauren doing some hipster language during his set, maybe. Who knows? And in 40, so we had the bebop thing. Now, that lasted approximately 10 years. And in 1949, you have a session called Earth of Cool. That's Miles Davis, Jerry Mulligan, Lee Konitz, Lenny Tristano. And that was another break from what the bebop thing was about. It was a cooler form. of jazz. And the weird thing was, those beboppers that we talked about who created the cool things, that was an East Coast thing, but the cool thing became more popular on the West Coast. So you had a whole West Coast school in the 50s of all those people doing the cool school stuff. Now also in the 50s, Dizzy Gillespie put together a big band. And in his big band, four members of his big band were John Lewis, Bill Jackson, Connie Kay, and Percy Heath. They started a quartet called the Modern Jazz Quartet. Now the thing about them is they wore tuxedos. They didn't want to play in bars. They wanted to be taken more seriously. So that is the beginning of another form of sort of jazz. And Dizzy Gillespie Big Band did a song called A Bird in Igor's Yard. That was written by George Russell. And it was supposed to be a blend of Charlie Parker and Igor Stravinsky. So a term was coined for that music. It was called third stream. It was coined by Gunther Schuller. So in the 50s, you had the end of bebop. You had the next phase of that, which is called hard bop. which is like bebop but with a little bit of funk in there. And you had people who invented that were Art Blakey and Horace Silver. So the 50s, let's talk about the 50s. The 50s, a lot of different changes in music were going on. You had some blues cats coming up from down south and making their way to Chicago and playing blues. You had R&B guys doing their thing. You had pop singers. You had also country and rockabilly. Elvis Presley comes from all those elements, including gospel. That's all part of his thing. And in 1959, this was a very important year. Three records came out that changed the future of jazz. One was Kind of Blue by Miles Davis Sextet, I guess, which is great. And it had this thing called modal jazz, which opened up the form to be a little bit freer. You had another record by the Dave Brubeck Quartet called Time Out. And that record included songs in weird time signatures. You had Blue Mondewala Turk and Take Five. So that is another kind of more progressive element that was very popular at the time. And another record that came out that year that wasn't noticed at the time was Sun Ra's record Jazz and Silhouette, which is a big band record, but it's very progressive. And then in California, you had Ornette Coleman Quartet, who moved to New York in 1960. They played for a month at the Five Spot. And when they played, it was very controversial. because no piano player, their music is very kind of free and open, and half the people who went to the gigs hated it, and the other half of the people loved it. And there was fighting going on about if it was important music or not, or if it was really jazz. All those arguments are going on. The same period of time, John Coltrane was playing in Miles Davis' quartet, and his solos were getting longer and longer. And he met up with John Gilmore, who was the sax player in Sun Ra's band, who was playing with multiphonics. And this is an early way of getting weird sounds on the sax that are now part of the vocabulary of the saxophone. So Coltrane is playing these long solos, and Miles said, you know, we're going on tour in Europe, 1960, and Trane says, I don't want to tour. I want to start my own band and I want to do my own thing." And Miles begs him, please go on tour. So he goes on tour for 60. After he does that tour, he starts his own quartet. And his own quartet's Elvin Jones, Jimmy Garrison, and McCoy Tyner. And so between 60 and 64 you have a freer form of jazz that's now coming out. Now also during that period of time you have the beginning of what we call protest singers. So you had like Woody Guthrie and then Pete Seeger and then you had Bob Dylan and these are people that wrote lyrics that talked about social justice and civil rights. This is a very important thing because it was a way of expressing how you felt and if you felt the world was unjust and you wanted to deal with it. I remember when I was at day camp, I was about eight years old, and I had to learn the words to Blown in the Wind by Bob Dylan, which is made popular by Peter, Paul, and Mary. And I learned the words, and I remember thinking to myself, this is fascinating. These words actually make me think about the unfairness of the world and what we can do about it. And I realized how much lyrics and voices really affected the way I saw the world. Before I started reading newspapers, music was the one thing that spoke to me. And the more music I listened to, the more different types of music I listened to, all those things were part of my understanding of the world. I discovered a band called The Mothers of Invention when I was 13. That's Frank Zappa's band, and Frank Zappa had this view about the unfairness of society. He wrote a song called Trouble Every Day. It's a long protest song. I haven't memorized, but I'm not going to do it now because this is more about other people tonight. No, no, no. I'll do it. I've done it here once, and I'll do it again. But it's very long. But I think it's an important thing. Now, the vocal thing. this is all changing over time we have jazz vocalists singing with big bands singing on the road and then in the sixties people start experimenting with their voices uh... so you have people like gene lee uh... who else? harry woodard jay clayton yes I mean, a lot of these people I got to know in the 70s. I remember seeing, late 70s, Ellen Christie. She was at a jam session I was at in New Jersey, and she was great. And I didn't know who she was. And Lisa Sokoloff, I remember seeing. I saw Jean Lee play a bunch of times, because I was friendly with her, and Gunther Hoppel. But I've always been attracted to vocalists, strong vocalists, and also vocalists who take chances and learn how to do different things with their voices. So we're going to celebrate vocalists tonight. We have eight of them that are going to be playing in four sets. All of them are different. They're all coming from different places. They're all going to speak to us in different ways. I'm glad to see more people here than what we usually have. I think that's a beautiful thing. I'll do more thematic things in the future. And I want to thank all you people out there for showing up. And the first set is going to start. And Skylar here, he was here on Saturday night with a band. And man, he blew me away. He is really something else. That's all I'm going to say. }}[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:21, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :sent to scoop [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 00:30, 2 April 2026 (UTC) : Four emails were received via Scoop, collectively containing four MP3 audio files. No additional notes were included, either as attachments or within the body of the emails.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 06:31, 4 April 2026 (UTC) ::My mistake, I didn't include the notes since I didn't use them: First performance runtime about 22 minutes. Second about 10 minutes. Third about 30 minutes. Fourth also about 30 minutes. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:10, 4 April 2026 (UTC) == Title change == I'm not sure the new title communicates that the performance featured exclusively vocalists. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:25, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] :1. An uninformed reader, especially foreigner, may ask: "What is a vocalist?". Please wikilink or clarify. :2. Can "The venue was so highly attended that the entire store was full, and people were watching from outside the entrance to the store." be worded to clarify: is this normally the case for such events at this space? :3. What is an 'experimental vocalist'? Please clarify. :4. Can the time when the event started, and when it ended, be included either in the first or in the second paragraph? :5. Is the website being a pest, or are images only 100px wide? I suggest using the gallery tag to include images at the end of the story in full size. Often the widths parameter is set to at least 800px and the heights parameters is set to 600px (correct me if i am wrong; check the photo essay category for previous submissions). :6. The long quote included in article which is more than 80% of it is there like if it was released under creative commons. Did the speaker confirm the licensing properly beyond saying 'sure, put it in Wikinews if you want'? :This is not an actionable note, I think the image quality or post processing could be improved. Like this camera does not cope very well with darker environment. :As noted previously, it is better to report on this much sooner after it happened. I suggest that you team up with a friend to help you with transcription and write-up. This can be either IRL friend or an online peer who is responsive and is accurate and understands, or wants to understand, what needs to be done. It would be ideal if submissions did not occur two weeks after the event each time. :I think items 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 can be addressed before publishing. Hope this makes sense. :Many thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:48, 6 April 2026 (UTC) g904b2xoq315aumukel10z5tfvix2sl 0 3087531 5005119 5004995 2026-04-05T16:37:28Z Justthefacts 2772873 The claims were broader. 5005119 wikitext text/x-wiki {{review}} {{LGBT}} {{Date|26 March 2026}} In a landmark ruling on March 26, the {{w|Supreme Court of Finland}} convicted {{w|Päivi Räsänen}}, a member of the {{w|Christian Democrats (Finland)|Christian Democrats}} party in the {{w|Parliament of Finland}} and {{w|Juhana Pohjola}}, the bishop of the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}}, as well as the {{w|Luther Foundation of Finland}} and the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}} of {{w|crimes against humanity|crimes against the humanity}} of gays and lesbians. The defendants were convicted under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} concerning {{w|crimes against humanity}}, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made scientifically false claims about {{w|homosexuality|foreign=force}}. In the pamphlet, ''Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity'', Räsänen argued her belief that homosexuality and {{w|Christianity|foreign=force}} are incompatible. Räsänen argued primarily in terms of religious opinions and quoted verses from the {{w|Bible}} to back her beliefs, but also made the scientifically false claims that homosexuality is a "sexual abnormality", a "developmental disorder", and a "disorder of psychosexual development". The applicant noted the claim was {{w|falsifiability|falsifiable}} contrary to {{w|empirical evidence}} saying it was the global {{w|scientific consensus}} of the {{w|science|scientific|foreign=force}}, {{w|medicine|medical|foreign=force}}, {{w|psychology|psychological|foreign=force}}, {{w|psychiatry|psychiatric|foreign=force}}, and {{w|pediatrics|pediatric}} communities around the world that homosexuality is a healthy, natural, normal, and positive variation of {{w|human sexuality}}, and not a disease, disorder, illness, or pathology. The response to the ruling from Finnish politicians was mixed. The {{w|Prime Minister of Finland}}, {{w|Petteri Orpo}}, of the centre-right {{w|National Coalition Party}}, took a stand against political interference in the judiciary and stated that "politicians should not comment on court decisions". Those from Räsänen's Christian Democrats party and the right-wing {{w|Finns Party}} criticised the court's decision, with {{w|Riikka Purra}}, the {{w|Deputy Prime Minister of Finland}} posting on social media: "Freedom of speech took another serious hit today through the supreme court’s voting decision." Other politicians praised the decision, with opposition party leader, {{w|Sofia Virta}}, of the centre-left {{w|Green League}}, saying that "Finland is a country where people must not be labelled or mocked without consequence. Freedom of speech is important, but it comes with responsibility." The court dismissed a related charge against Räsänen over a post on {{w|X (social network)|X}} (then a {{w|Tweet (social media)|tweet}} on Twitter), that quoted a series of Bible verses, ''Romans 1:24–27'', to back her beliefs about {{w|same-sex relationship}}s, finding that it was a subjective religious opinion. Upon closer examination, the court found that while the parts of the pamphlet that consisted only of religious arguments and quoted the Bible were merely subjective religious opinions, the other portions {{w|dehumanization|dehumanised}} an entire minority on the basis of their sexual orientation, constituting crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians. The Supreme Court convicted Räsänen who wrote the document, Pohjola who edited it, and the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese who published it. The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of {{w|freedom of speech|foreign=force}} and {{w|freedom of religion}} with {{w|hate speech}} and crimes against humanity, as well as {{w|LGBT rights}} and {{w|human rights|foreign=force}} in {{w|liberal democracy|liberal democracies}}. {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source|url=https://www.christian.org.uk/news/finnish-christian-mp-convicted-of-crimes-against-humanity-for-church-booklet-on-marriage/|title=Finnish Christian MP convicted of ‘crimes against humanity’ for church booklet on marriage|pub=Christian Institute|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case|title=Landmark ruling expected in Finnish politician's Bible tweet case|pub=Christian Today|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder|title=Finnish MP convicted for saying homosexuality is ‘developmental disorder’|pub=The Guardian|author=Miranda Bryant|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html|title=Supreme Court fines European MP over homosexuality comments|pub=The Independent|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.reuters.com/world/finlands-supreme-court-fines-mp-calling-homosexuality-developmental-disorder-2026-03-26/|title=Finland's Supreme Court fines MP for calling homosexuality 'developmental disorder'|pub=Reuters|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-statement-on-natural-variations-of-human-sexuality/|title=WMA STATEMENT ON NATURAL VARIATIONS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY|pub=World Medical Association|date=18 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/what-we-do/human-rights/lgbt/|pub=World Medical Association|title=LGBT {{!}} Health and Natural Variations of Human Sexuality|date=March 28, 2026 (date of access)}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-condemns-portrayal-of-homosexuality-as-a-disease/|title=WMA CONDEMNS PORTRAYAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY AS A DISEASE|pub=World Medical Association|date=21 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/|title=Finland’s Top Court Split on Christian Politician’s Hate Speech Charges|pub=Christianity Today|author=Ken Chitwood|date=27 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/28665-supreme-court-convicts-mp-paeivi-raesaenen-over-hate-speech.html|title=Supreme Court convicts MP Päivi Räsänen over hate speech|pub=Helsinki Times|author=|date=27 March 2026}} [[Category:March 26, 2026]] [[Category:LGBT]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Free speech]] [[Category:Democracy]] [[Category:Christianity]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:European Union]] [[Category:Europe]] f5jqtv1o2j20a9s6yiz3zrhl9ifzduj 5005122 5005119 2026-04-05T16:39:02Z Justthefacts 2772873 Clarify that it was noted in the ruling of the Supreme Court. 5005122 wikitext text/x-wiki {{review}} {{LGBT}} {{Date|26 March 2026}} In a landmark ruling on March 26, the {{w|Supreme Court of Finland}} convicted {{w|Päivi Räsänen}}, a member of the {{w|Christian Democrats (Finland)|Christian Democrats}} party in the {{w|Parliament of Finland}} and {{w|Juhana Pohjola}}, the bishop of the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}}, as well as the {{w|Luther Foundation of Finland}} and the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}} of {{w|crimes against humanity|crimes against the humanity}} of gays and lesbians. The defendants were convicted under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} concerning {{w|crimes against humanity}}, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made scientifically false claims about {{w|homosexuality|foreign=force}}. In the pamphlet, ''Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity'', Räsänen argued her belief that homosexuality and {{w|Christianity|foreign=force}} are incompatible. Räsänen argued primarily in terms of religious opinions and quoted verses from the {{w|Bible}} to back her beliefs, but also made the scientifically false claims that homosexuality is a "sexual abnormality", a "developmental disorder", and a "disorder of psychosexual development". The Supreme Court noted that the scientifically {{w|falsifiability|falsifiable}} claims are contrary to {{w|empirical evidence}} and that it is the global {{w|scientific consensus}} of the {{w|science|scientific|foreign=force}}, {{w|medicine|medical|foreign=force}}, {{w|psychology|psychological|foreign=force}}, {{w|psychiatry|psychiatric|foreign=force}}, and {{w|pediatrics|pediatric}} communities around the world that homosexuality is a healthy, natural, normal, and positive variation of {{w|human sexuality}}, and not a disease, disorder, illness, or pathology. The response to the ruling from Finnish politicians was mixed. The {{w|Prime Minister of Finland}}, {{w|Petteri Orpo}}, of the centre-right {{w|National Coalition Party}}, took a stand against political interference in the judiciary and stated that "politicians should not comment on court decisions". Those from Räsänen's Christian Democrats party and the right-wing {{w|Finns Party}} criticised the court's decision, with {{w|Riikka Purra}}, the {{w|Deputy Prime Minister of Finland}} posting on social media: "Freedom of speech took another serious hit today through the supreme court’s voting decision." Other politicians praised the decision, with opposition party leader, {{w|Sofia Virta}}, of the centre-left {{w|Green League}}, saying that "Finland is a country where people must not be labelled or mocked without consequence. Freedom of speech is important, but it comes with responsibility." The court dismissed a related charge against Räsänen over a post on {{w|X (social network)|X}} (then a {{w|Tweet (social media)|tweet}} on Twitter), that quoted a series of Bible verses, ''Romans 1:24–27'', to back her beliefs about {{w|same-sex relationship}}s, finding that it was a subjective religious opinion. Upon closer examination, the court found that while the parts of the pamphlet that consisted only of religious arguments and quoted the Bible were merely subjective religious opinions, the other portions {{w|dehumanization|dehumanised}} an entire minority on the basis of their sexual orientation, constituting crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians. The Supreme Court convicted Räsänen who wrote the document, Pohjola who edited it, and the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese who published it. The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of {{w|freedom of speech|foreign=force}} and {{w|freedom of religion}} with {{w|hate speech}} and crimes against humanity, as well as {{w|LGBT rights}} and {{w|human rights|foreign=force}} in {{w|liberal democracy|liberal democracies}}. {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source|url=https://www.christian.org.uk/news/finnish-christian-mp-convicted-of-crimes-against-humanity-for-church-booklet-on-marriage/|title=Finnish Christian MP convicted of ‘crimes against humanity’ for church booklet on marriage|pub=Christian Institute|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case|title=Landmark ruling expected in Finnish politician's Bible tweet case|pub=Christian Today|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder|title=Finnish MP convicted for saying homosexuality is ‘developmental disorder’|pub=The Guardian|author=Miranda Bryant|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html|title=Supreme Court fines European MP over homosexuality comments|pub=The Independent|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.reuters.com/world/finlands-supreme-court-fines-mp-calling-homosexuality-developmental-disorder-2026-03-26/|title=Finland's Supreme Court fines MP for calling homosexuality 'developmental disorder'|pub=Reuters|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-statement-on-natural-variations-of-human-sexuality/|title=WMA STATEMENT ON NATURAL VARIATIONS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY|pub=World Medical Association|date=18 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/what-we-do/human-rights/lgbt/|pub=World Medical Association|title=LGBT {{!}} Health and Natural Variations of Human Sexuality|date=March 28, 2026 (date of access)}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-condemns-portrayal-of-homosexuality-as-a-disease/|title=WMA CONDEMNS PORTRAYAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY AS A DISEASE|pub=World Medical Association|date=21 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/|title=Finland’s Top Court Split on Christian Politician’s Hate Speech Charges|pub=Christianity Today|author=Ken Chitwood|date=27 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/28665-supreme-court-convicts-mp-paeivi-raesaenen-over-hate-speech.html|title=Supreme Court convicts MP Päivi Räsänen over hate speech|pub=Helsinki Times|author=|date=27 March 2026}} [[Category:March 26, 2026]] [[Category:LGBT]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Free speech]] [[Category:Democracy]] [[Category:Christianity]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:European Union]] [[Category:Europe]] 75nqei2k1rmue346gghvmji8vo2w2x7 5005188 5005122 2026-04-05T23:07:02Z Lofi Gurl 2885970 Not ready when reviewed: article needs improvement(s). Add article flag. (Using [[MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js|easy peer review]] 5005188 wikitext text/x-wiki {{tasks|news|re-review}} {{LGBT}} {{Date|26 March 2026}} In a landmark ruling on March 26, the {{w|Supreme Court of Finland}} convicted {{w|Päivi Räsänen}}, a member of the {{w|Christian Democrats (Finland)|Christian Democrats}} party in the {{w|Parliament of Finland}} and {{w|Juhana Pohjola}}, the bishop of the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}}, as well as the {{w|Luther Foundation of Finland}} and the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}} of {{w|crimes against humanity|crimes against the humanity}} of gays and lesbians. The defendants were convicted under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} concerning {{w|crimes against humanity}}, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made scientifically false claims about {{w|homosexuality|foreign=force}}. In the pamphlet, ''Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity'', Räsänen argued her belief that homosexuality and {{w|Christianity|foreign=force}} are incompatible. Räsänen argued primarily in terms of religious opinions and quoted verses from the {{w|Bible}} to back her beliefs, but also made the scientifically false claims that homosexuality is a "sexual abnormality", a "developmental disorder", and a "disorder of psychosexual development". The Supreme Court noted that the scientifically {{w|falsifiability|falsifiable}} claims are contrary to {{w|empirical evidence}} and that it is the global {{w|scientific consensus}} of the {{w|science|scientific|foreign=force}}, {{w|medicine|medical|foreign=force}}, {{w|psychology|psychological|foreign=force}}, {{w|psychiatry|psychiatric|foreign=force}}, and {{w|pediatrics|pediatric}} communities around the world that homosexuality is a healthy, natural, normal, and positive variation of {{w|human sexuality}}, and not a disease, disorder, illness, or pathology. The response to the ruling from Finnish politicians was mixed. The {{w|Prime Minister of Finland}}, {{w|Petteri Orpo}}, of the centre-right {{w|National Coalition Party}}, took a stand against political interference in the judiciary and stated that "politicians should not comment on court decisions". Those from Räsänen's Christian Democrats party and the right-wing {{w|Finns Party}} criticised the court's decision, with {{w|Riikka Purra}}, the {{w|Deputy Prime Minister of Finland}} posting on social media: "Freedom of speech took another serious hit today through the supreme court’s voting decision." Other politicians praised the decision, with opposition party leader, {{w|Sofia Virta}}, of the centre-left {{w|Green League}}, saying that "Finland is a country where people must not be labelled or mocked without consequence. Freedom of speech is important, but it comes with responsibility." The court dismissed a related charge against Räsänen over a post on {{w|X (social network)|X}} (then a {{w|Tweet (social media)|tweet}} on Twitter), that quoted a series of Bible verses, ''Romans 1:24–27'', to back her beliefs about {{w|same-sex relationship}}s, finding that it was a subjective religious opinion. Upon closer examination, the court found that while the parts of the pamphlet that consisted only of religious arguments and quoted the Bible were merely subjective religious opinions, the other portions {{w|dehumanization|dehumanised}} an entire minority on the basis of their sexual orientation, constituting crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians. The Supreme Court convicted Räsänen who wrote the document, Pohjola who edited it, and the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese who published it. The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of {{w|freedom of speech|foreign=force}} and {{w|freedom of religion}} with {{w|hate speech}} and crimes against humanity, as well as {{w|LGBT rights}} and {{w|human rights|foreign=force}} in {{w|liberal democracy|liberal democracies}}. {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source|url=https://www.christian.org.uk/news/finnish-christian-mp-convicted-of-crimes-against-humanity-for-church-booklet-on-marriage/|title=Finnish Christian MP convicted of ‘crimes against humanity’ for church booklet on marriage|pub=Christian Institute|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case|title=Landmark ruling expected in Finnish politician's Bible tweet case|pub=Christian Today|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder|title=Finnish MP convicted for saying homosexuality is ‘developmental disorder’|pub=The Guardian|author=Miranda Bryant|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html|title=Supreme Court fines European MP over homosexuality comments|pub=The Independent|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.reuters.com/world/finlands-supreme-court-fines-mp-calling-homosexuality-developmental-disorder-2026-03-26/|title=Finland's Supreme Court fines MP for calling homosexuality 'developmental disorder'|pub=Reuters|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-statement-on-natural-variations-of-human-sexuality/|title=WMA STATEMENT ON NATURAL VARIATIONS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY|pub=World Medical Association|date=18 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/what-we-do/human-rights/lgbt/|pub=World Medical Association|title=LGBT {{!}} Health and Natural Variations of Human Sexuality|date=March 28, 2026 (date of access)}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-condemns-portrayal-of-homosexuality-as-a-disease/|title=WMA CONDEMNS PORTRAYAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY AS A DISEASE|pub=World Medical Association|date=21 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/|title=Finland’s Top Court Split on Christian Politician’s Hate Speech Charges|pub=Christianity Today|author=Ken Chitwood|date=27 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/28665-supreme-court-convicts-mp-paeivi-raesaenen-over-hate-speech.html|title=Supreme Court convicts MP Päivi Räsänen over hate speech|pub=Helsinki Times|author=|date=27 March 2026}} [[Category:March 26, 2026]] [[Category:LGBT]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Free speech]] [[Category:Democracy]] [[Category:Christianity]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:European Union]] [[Category:Europe]] nlue29eiy9jddyw4pj59cheb23e4k0r 5005191 5005188 2026-04-05T23:10:06Z Lofi Gurl 2885970 trim 5005191 wikitext text/x-wiki {{tasks|news|re-review}} {{LGBT}} {{Date|26 March 2026}} In a landmark ruling on March 26, the {{w|Supreme Court of Finland}} convicted {{w|Päivi Räsänen}}, a member of the {{w|Christian Democrats (Finland)|Christian Democrats}} party in the {{w|Parliament of Finland}} and {{w|Juhana Pohjola}}, the bishop of the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}}, as well as the {{w|Luther Foundation of Finland}} and the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}} of {{w|crimes against humanity|crimes against the humanity}} of gays and lesbians. The defendants were convicted under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} concerning {{w|crimes against humanity}}, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made scientifically false claims about {{w|homosexuality|foreign=force}}. In the pamphlet, ''Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity'', Räsänen argued her belief that homosexuality and {{w|Christianity|foreign=force}} are incompatible. Räsänen argued primarily in terms of religious opinions and quoted verses from the {{w|Bible}} to back her beliefs, but also made the scientifically false claims that homosexuality is a "sexual abnormality", a "developmental disorder", and a "disorder of psychosexual development". The Supreme Court noted that the scientifically {{w|falsifiability|falsifiable}} claims are contrary to {{w|empirical evidence}} and that it is the global {{w|scientific consensus}} of the {{w|science|scientific|foreign=force}}, {{w|medicine|medical|foreign=force}} and {{w|psychology|psychological|foreign=force}} communities around the world that homosexuality is a normal variation of {{w|human sexuality}} and not a disease or disorder. The response to the ruling from Finnish politicians was mixed. The {{w|Prime Minister of Finland}}, {{w|Petteri Orpo}}, of the centre-right {{w|National Coalition Party}}, took a stand against political interference in the judiciary and stated that "politicians should not comment on court decisions". Those from Räsänen's Christian Democrats party and the right-wing {{w|Finns Party}} criticised the court's decision, with {{w|Riikka Purra}}, the {{w|Deputy Prime Minister of Finland}} posting on social media: "Freedom of speech took another serious hit today through the supreme court’s voting decision." Other politicians praised the decision, with opposition party leader, {{w|Sofia Virta}}, of the centre-left {{w|Green League}}, saying that "Finland is a country where people must not be labelled or mocked without consequence. Freedom of speech is important, but it comes with responsibility." The court dismissed a related charge against Räsänen over a post on {{w|X (social network)|X}} (then a {{w|Tweet (social media)|tweet}} on Twitter), that quoted a series of Bible verses, ''Romans 1:24–27'', to back her beliefs about {{w|same-sex relationship}}s, finding that it was a subjective religious opinion. Upon closer examination, the court found that while the parts of the pamphlet that consisted only of religious arguments and quoted the Bible were merely subjective religious opinions, the other portions {{w|dehumanization|dehumanised}} an entire minority on the basis of their sexual orientation, constituting crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians. The Supreme Court convicted Räsänen who wrote the document, Pohjola who edited it, and the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese who published it. The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of {{w|freedom of speech|foreign=force}} and {{w|freedom of religion}} with {{w|hate speech}} and crimes against humanity, as well as {{w|LGBT rights}} and {{w|human rights|foreign=force}} in {{w|liberal democracy|liberal democracies}}. {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source|url=https://www.christian.org.uk/news/finnish-christian-mp-convicted-of-crimes-against-humanity-for-church-booklet-on-marriage/|title=Finnish Christian MP convicted of ‘crimes against humanity’ for church booklet on marriage|pub=Christian Institute|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case|title=Landmark ruling expected in Finnish politician's Bible tweet case|pub=Christian Today|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder|title=Finnish MP convicted for saying homosexuality is ‘developmental disorder’|pub=The Guardian|author=Miranda Bryant|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html|title=Supreme Court fines European MP over homosexuality comments|pub=The Independent|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.reuters.com/world/finlands-supreme-court-fines-mp-calling-homosexuality-developmental-disorder-2026-03-26/|title=Finland's Supreme Court fines MP for calling homosexuality 'developmental disorder'|pub=Reuters|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-statement-on-natural-variations-of-human-sexuality/|title=WMA STATEMENT ON NATURAL VARIATIONS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY|pub=World Medical Association|date=18 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/what-we-do/human-rights/lgbt/|pub=World Medical Association|title=LGBT {{!}} Health and Natural Variations of Human Sexuality|date=March 28, 2026 (date of access)}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-condemns-portrayal-of-homosexuality-as-a-disease/|title=WMA CONDEMNS PORTRAYAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY AS A DISEASE|pub=World Medical Association|date=21 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/|title=Finland’s Top Court Split on Christian Politician’s Hate Speech Charges|pub=Christianity Today|author=Ken Chitwood|date=27 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/28665-supreme-court-convicts-mp-paeivi-raesaenen-over-hate-speech.html|title=Supreme Court convicts MP Päivi Räsänen over hate speech|pub=Helsinki Times|author=|date=27 March 2026}} [[Category:March 26, 2026]] [[Category:LGBT]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Free speech]] [[Category:Democracy]] [[Category:Christianity]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:European Union]] [[Category:Europe]] mvmboimt1nm3p20u3tn2qoalzzvl4hm 5005192 5005191 2026-04-05T23:11:14Z Lofi Gurl 2885970 5005192 wikitext text/x-wiki {{tasks|news|re-review}} {{LGBT}} {{Date|26 March 2026}} In a landmark ruling on March 26, the {{w|Supreme Court of Finland}} convicted {{w|Päivi Räsänen}}, a member of the {{w|Christian Democrats (Finland)|Christian Democrats}} party in the {{w|Parliament of Finland}} and {{w|Juhana Pohjola}}, the bishop of the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}}, as well as the {{w|Luther Foundation of Finland}} and the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}} of {{w|crimes against humanity|crimes against the humanity}} of gays and lesbians. The defendants were convicted under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} concerning {{w|crimes against humanity}}, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made scientifically false claims about {{w|homosexuality|foreign=force}}. In the pamphlet, ''Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity'', Räsänen argued her belief that homosexuality and {{w|Christianity|foreign=force}} are incompatible. Räsänen argued primarily in terms of religious opinions and quoted verses from the {{w|Bible}} to back her beliefs, but also made the scientifically false claims that homosexuality is a "sexual abnormality", a "developmental disorder", and a "disorder of psychosexual development". The Supreme Court noted that the claims that were made were contrary to the global {{w|scientific consensus}} that homosexuality is a normal variation of {{w|human sexuality}} and not a disease or disorder. The response to the ruling from Finnish politicians was mixed. The {{w|Prime Minister of Finland}}, {{w|Petteri Orpo}}, of the centre-right {{w|National Coalition Party}}, took a stand against political interference in the judiciary and stated that "politicians should not comment on court decisions". Those from Räsänen's Christian Democrats party and the right-wing {{w|Finns Party}} criticised the court's decision, with {{w|Riikka Purra}}, the {{w|Deputy Prime Minister of Finland}} posting on social media: "Freedom of speech took another serious hit today through the supreme court’s voting decision." Other politicians praised the decision, with opposition party leader, {{w|Sofia Virta}}, of the centre-left {{w|Green League}}, saying that "Finland is a country where people must not be labelled or mocked without consequence. Freedom of speech is important, but it comes with responsibility." The court dismissed a related charge against Räsänen over a post on {{w|X (social network)|X}} (then a {{w|Tweet (social media)|tweet}} on Twitter), that quoted a series of Bible verses, ''Romans 1:24–27'', to back her beliefs about {{w|same-sex relationship}}s, finding that it was a subjective religious opinion. Upon closer examination, the court found that while the parts of the pamphlet that consisted only of religious arguments and quoted the Bible were merely subjective religious opinions, the other portions {{w|dehumanization|dehumanised}} an entire minority on the basis of their sexual orientation, constituting crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians. The Supreme Court convicted Räsänen who wrote the document, Pohjola who edited it, and the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese who published it. The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of {{w|freedom of speech|foreign=force}} and {{w|freedom of religion}} with {{w|hate speech}} and crimes against humanity, as well as {{w|LGBT rights}} and {{w|human rights|foreign=force}} in {{w|liberal democracy|liberal democracies}}. {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source|url=https://www.christian.org.uk/news/finnish-christian-mp-convicted-of-crimes-against-humanity-for-church-booklet-on-marriage/|title=Finnish Christian MP convicted of ‘crimes against humanity’ for church booklet on marriage|pub=Christian Institute|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case|title=Landmark ruling expected in Finnish politician's Bible tweet case|pub=Christian Today|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder|title=Finnish MP convicted for saying homosexuality is ‘developmental disorder’|pub=The Guardian|author=Miranda Bryant|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html|title=Supreme Court fines European MP over homosexuality comments|pub=The Independent|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.reuters.com/world/finlands-supreme-court-fines-mp-calling-homosexuality-developmental-disorder-2026-03-26/|title=Finland's Supreme Court fines MP for calling homosexuality 'developmental disorder'|pub=Reuters|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-statement-on-natural-variations-of-human-sexuality/|title=WMA STATEMENT ON NATURAL VARIATIONS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY|pub=World Medical Association|date=18 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/what-we-do/human-rights/lgbt/|pub=World Medical Association|title=LGBT {{!}} Health and Natural Variations of Human Sexuality|date=March 28, 2026 (date of access)}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-condemns-portrayal-of-homosexuality-as-a-disease/|title=WMA CONDEMNS PORTRAYAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY AS A DISEASE|pub=World Medical Association|date=21 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/|title=Finland’s Top Court Split on Christian Politician’s Hate Speech Charges|pub=Christianity Today|author=Ken Chitwood|date=27 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/28665-supreme-court-convicts-mp-paeivi-raesaenen-over-hate-speech.html|title=Supreme Court convicts MP Päivi Räsänen over hate speech|pub=Helsinki Times|author=|date=27 March 2026}} [[Category:March 26, 2026]] [[Category:LGBT]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Free speech]] [[Category:Democracy]] [[Category:Christianity]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:European Union]] [[Category:Europe]] 64be8j0jew3de36iwarle4bmc6eu59b 5005193 5005192 2026-04-05T23:13:02Z Lofi Gurl 2885970 5005193 wikitext text/x-wiki {{tasks|news|re-review}} {{LGBT}} {{Date|26 March 2026}} In a landmark ruling on March 26, the {{w|Supreme Court of Finland}} convicted {{w|Päivi Räsänen}}, a member of the {{w|Christian Democrats (Finland)|Christian Democrats}} party in the {{w|Parliament of Finland}} and {{w|Juhana Pohjola}}, the bishop of the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}}, as well as the {{w|Luther Foundation of Finland}} and the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}} of {{w|crimes against humanity|crimes against the humanity}} of gays and lesbians. The defendants were convicted under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} concerning {{w|crimes against humanity}}, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made claims about {{w|homosexuality|foreign=force}} that contradicted the consensus of the {{w|scientific community}}. In the pamphlet, ''Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity'', Räsänen argued her belief that homosexuality and {{w|Christianity|foreign=force}} are incompatible. Räsänen argued primarily in terms of religious opinions and quoted verses from the {{w|Bible}} to back her beliefs, but also made the scientifically false claims that homosexuality is a "sexual abnormality", a "developmental disorder", and a "disorder of psychosexual development". The Supreme Court noted that the claims that were made were contrary to the global {{w|scientific consensus}} that homosexuality is a normal variation of {{w|human sexuality}} and not a disease or disorder. The response to the ruling from Finnish politicians was mixed. The {{w|Prime Minister of Finland}}, {{w|Petteri Orpo}}, of the centre-right {{w|National Coalition Party}}, took a stand against political interference in the judiciary and stated that "politicians should not comment on court decisions". Those from Räsänen's Christian Democrats party and the right-wing {{w|Finns Party}} criticised the court's decision, with {{w|Riikka Purra}}, the {{w|Deputy Prime Minister of Finland}} posting on social media: "Freedom of speech took another serious hit today through the supreme court’s voting decision." Other politicians praised the decision, with opposition party leader, {{w|Sofia Virta}}, of the centre-left {{w|Green League}}, saying that "Finland is a country where people must not be labelled or mocked without consequence. Freedom of speech is important, but it comes with responsibility." The court dismissed a related charge against Räsänen over a post on {{w|X (social network)|X}} (then a {{w|Tweet (social media)|tweet}} on Twitter), that quoted a series of Bible verses, ''Romans 1:24–27'', to back her beliefs about {{w|same-sex relationship}}s, finding that it was a subjective religious opinion. Upon closer examination, the court found that while the parts of the pamphlet that consisted only of religious arguments and quoted the Bible were merely subjective religious opinions, the other portions {{w|dehumanization|dehumanised}} an entire minority on the basis of their sexual orientation, constituting crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians. The Supreme Court convicted Räsänen who wrote the document, Pohjola who edited it, and the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese who published it. The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of {{w|freedom of speech|foreign=force}} and {{w|freedom of religion}} with {{w|hate speech}} and crimes against humanity, as well as {{w|LGBT rights}} and {{w|human rights|foreign=force}} in {{w|liberal democracy|liberal democracies}}. {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source|url=https://www.christian.org.uk/news/finnish-christian-mp-convicted-of-crimes-against-humanity-for-church-booklet-on-marriage/|title=Finnish Christian MP convicted of ‘crimes against humanity’ for church booklet on marriage|pub=Christian Institute|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case|title=Landmark ruling expected in Finnish politician's Bible tweet case|pub=Christian Today|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder|title=Finnish MP convicted for saying homosexuality is ‘developmental disorder’|pub=The Guardian|author=Miranda Bryant|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html|title=Supreme Court fines European MP over homosexuality comments|pub=The Independent|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.reuters.com/world/finlands-supreme-court-fines-mp-calling-homosexuality-developmental-disorder-2026-03-26/|title=Finland's Supreme Court fines MP for calling homosexuality 'developmental disorder'|pub=Reuters|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-statement-on-natural-variations-of-human-sexuality/|title=WMA STATEMENT ON NATURAL VARIATIONS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY|pub=World Medical Association|date=18 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/what-we-do/human-rights/lgbt/|pub=World Medical Association|title=LGBT {{!}} Health and Natural Variations of Human Sexuality|date=March 28, 2026 (date of access)}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-condemns-portrayal-of-homosexuality-as-a-disease/|title=WMA CONDEMNS PORTRAYAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY AS A DISEASE|pub=World Medical Association|date=21 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/|title=Finland’s Top Court Split on Christian Politician’s Hate Speech Charges|pub=Christianity Today|author=Ken Chitwood|date=27 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/28665-supreme-court-convicts-mp-paeivi-raesaenen-over-hate-speech.html|title=Supreme Court convicts MP Päivi Räsänen over hate speech|pub=Helsinki Times|author=|date=27 March 2026}} [[Category:March 26, 2026]] [[Category:LGBT]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Free speech]] [[Category:Democracy]] [[Category:Christianity]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:European Union]] [[Category:Europe]] a8o7rm8jvx4nzqv5uxspu0vs8csl9nz 5005194 5005193 2026-04-05T23:13:49Z Lofi Gurl 2885970 5005194 wikitext text/x-wiki {{tasks|news|re-review}} {{LGBT}} {{Date|26 March 2026}} In a landmark ruling on March 26, the {{w|Supreme Court of Finland}} convicted {{w|Päivi Räsänen}}, a member of the {{w|Christian Democrats (Finland)|Christian Democrats}} party in the {{w|Parliament of Finland}} and {{w|Juhana Pohjola}}, the bishop of the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}}, as well as the {{w|Luther Foundation of Finland}} and the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}} of {{w|crimes against humanity|crimes against the humanity}} of gays and lesbians. The defendants were convicted under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} concerning {{w|crimes against humanity}}, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made claims about {{w|homosexuality|foreign=force}} that contradicted the consensus of the {{w|scientific community}}. In the pamphlet, ''Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity'', Räsänen argued her belief that homosexuality and {{w|Christianity|foreign=force}} are incompatible. Räsänen argued primarily in terms of religious opinions and quoted verses from the {{w|Bible}} to back her beliefs, but also made the scientifically false claims that homosexuality is a "sexual abnormality", a "developmental disorder", and a "disorder of psychosexual development". The court stated that the claims that were made by the defendants were contrary to the global {{w|scientific consensus}} that homosexuality is a normal variation of {{w|human sexuality}} and not a disease or disorder. The response to the ruling from Finnish politicians was mixed. The {{w|Prime Minister of Finland}}, {{w|Petteri Orpo}}, of the centre-right {{w|National Coalition Party}}, took a stand against political interference in the judiciary and stated that "politicians should not comment on court decisions". Those from Räsänen's Christian Democrats party and the right-wing {{w|Finns Party}} criticised the court's decision, with {{w|Riikka Purra}}, the {{w|Deputy Prime Minister of Finland}} posting on social media: "Freedom of speech took another serious hit today through the supreme court’s voting decision." Other politicians praised the decision, with opposition party leader, {{w|Sofia Virta}}, of the centre-left {{w|Green League}}, saying that "Finland is a country where people must not be labelled or mocked without consequence. Freedom of speech is important, but it comes with responsibility." The court dismissed a related charge against Räsänen over a post on {{w|X (social network)|X}} (then a {{w|Tweet (social media)|tweet}} on Twitter), that quoted a series of Bible verses, ''Romans 1:24–27'', to back her beliefs about {{w|same-sex relationship}}s, finding that it was a subjective religious opinion. Upon closer examination, the court found that while the parts of the pamphlet that consisted only of religious arguments and quoted the Bible were merely subjective religious opinions, the other portions {{w|dehumanization|dehumanised}} an entire minority on the basis of their sexual orientation, constituting crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians. The Supreme Court convicted Räsänen who wrote the document, Pohjola who edited it, and the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese who published it. The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of {{w|freedom of speech|foreign=force}} and {{w|freedom of religion}} with {{w|hate speech}} and crimes against humanity, as well as {{w|LGBT rights}} and {{w|human rights|foreign=force}} in {{w|liberal democracy|liberal democracies}}. {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source|url=https://www.christian.org.uk/news/finnish-christian-mp-convicted-of-crimes-against-humanity-for-church-booklet-on-marriage/|title=Finnish Christian MP convicted of ‘crimes against humanity’ for church booklet on marriage|pub=Christian Institute|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case|title=Landmark ruling expected in Finnish politician's Bible tweet case|pub=Christian Today|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder|title=Finnish MP convicted for saying homosexuality is ‘developmental disorder’|pub=The Guardian|author=Miranda Bryant|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html|title=Supreme Court fines European MP over homosexuality comments|pub=The Independent|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.reuters.com/world/finlands-supreme-court-fines-mp-calling-homosexuality-developmental-disorder-2026-03-26/|title=Finland's Supreme Court fines MP for calling homosexuality 'developmental disorder'|pub=Reuters|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-statement-on-natural-variations-of-human-sexuality/|title=WMA STATEMENT ON NATURAL VARIATIONS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY|pub=World Medical Association|date=18 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/what-we-do/human-rights/lgbt/|pub=World Medical Association|title=LGBT {{!}} Health and Natural Variations of Human Sexuality|date=March 28, 2026 (date of access)}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-condemns-portrayal-of-homosexuality-as-a-disease/|title=WMA CONDEMNS PORTRAYAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY AS A DISEASE|pub=World Medical Association|date=21 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/|title=Finland’s Top Court Split on Christian Politician’s Hate Speech Charges|pub=Christianity Today|author=Ken Chitwood|date=27 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/28665-supreme-court-convicts-mp-paeivi-raesaenen-over-hate-speech.html|title=Supreme Court convicts MP Päivi Räsänen over hate speech|pub=Helsinki Times|author=|date=27 March 2026}} [[Category:March 26, 2026]] [[Category:LGBT]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Free speech]] [[Category:Democracy]] [[Category:Christianity]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:European Union]] [[Category:Europe]] 796048ro0jcp2i4xv6cgcm8fygm95ap 5005196 5005194 2026-04-05T23:16:01Z Lofi Gurl 2885970 5005196 wikitext text/x-wiki {{tasks|news|re-review}} {{LGBT}} {{Date|26 March 2026}} In a landmark ruling on March 26, the {{w|Supreme Court of Finland}} convicted {{w|Päivi Räsänen}}, a member of the {{w|Christian Democrats (Finland)|Christian Democrats}} party in the {{w|Parliament of Finland}} and {{w|Juhana Pohjola}}, the bishop of the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}}, as well as the {{w|Luther Foundation of Finland}} and the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}} of {{w|crimes against humanity|crimes against the humanity}} of gays and lesbians. The defendants were convicted under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} concerning {{w|crimes against humanity}}, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made claims about {{w|homosexuality|foreign=force}} that contradicted the consensus of the {{w|scientific community}}. In the pamphlet, ''Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity'', Räsänen argued her belief that homosexuality and {{w|Christianity|foreign=force}} are incompatible. Räsänen quoted verses from the {{w|Bible}} to support her argument, but claimed that homosexuality is a "sexual abnormality", a "developmental disorder", and a "disorder of psychosexual development". The court stated that these claims were contrary to the global {{w|scientific consensus}} that homosexuality is a normal variation of {{w|human sexuality}} and not a disease or disorder. The response to the ruling from Finnish politicians was mixed. The {{w|Prime Minister of Finland}}, {{w|Petteri Orpo}}, of the centre-right {{w|National Coalition Party}}, took a stand against political interference in the judiciary and stated that "politicians should not comment on court decisions". Those from Räsänen's Christian Democrats party and the right-wing {{w|Finns Party}} criticised the court's decision, with {{w|Riikka Purra}}, the {{w|Deputy Prime Minister of Finland}} posting on social media: "Freedom of speech took another serious hit today through the supreme court’s voting decision." Other politicians praised the decision, with opposition party leader, {{w|Sofia Virta}}, of the centre-left {{w|Green League}}, saying that "Finland is a country where people must not be labelled or mocked without consequence. Freedom of speech is important, but it comes with responsibility." The court dismissed a related charge against Räsänen over a post on {{w|X (social network)|X}} (then a {{w|Tweet (social media)|tweet}} on Twitter), that quoted a series of Bible verses, ''Romans 1:24–27'', to back her beliefs about {{w|same-sex relationship}}s, finding that it was a subjective religious opinion. Upon closer examination, the court found that while the parts of the pamphlet that consisted only of religious arguments and quoted the Bible were merely subjective religious opinions, the other portions {{w|dehumanization|dehumanised}} an entire minority on the basis of their sexual orientation, constituting crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians. The Supreme Court convicted Räsänen who wrote the document, Pohjola who edited it, and the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese who published it. The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of {{w|freedom of speech|foreign=force}} and {{w|freedom of religion}} with {{w|hate speech}} and crimes against humanity, as well as {{w|LGBT rights}} and {{w|human rights|foreign=force}} in {{w|liberal democracy|liberal democracies}}. {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source|url=https://www.christian.org.uk/news/finnish-christian-mp-convicted-of-crimes-against-humanity-for-church-booklet-on-marriage/|title=Finnish Christian MP convicted of ‘crimes against humanity’ for church booklet on marriage|pub=Christian Institute|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case|title=Landmark ruling expected in Finnish politician's Bible tweet case|pub=Christian Today|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder|title=Finnish MP convicted for saying homosexuality is ‘developmental disorder’|pub=The Guardian|author=Miranda Bryant|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html|title=Supreme Court fines European MP over homosexuality comments|pub=The Independent|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.reuters.com/world/finlands-supreme-court-fines-mp-calling-homosexuality-developmental-disorder-2026-03-26/|title=Finland's Supreme Court fines MP for calling homosexuality 'developmental disorder'|pub=Reuters|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-statement-on-natural-variations-of-human-sexuality/|title=WMA STATEMENT ON NATURAL VARIATIONS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY|pub=World Medical Association|date=18 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/what-we-do/human-rights/lgbt/|pub=World Medical Association|title=LGBT {{!}} Health and Natural Variations of Human Sexuality|date=March 28, 2026 (date of access)}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-condemns-portrayal-of-homosexuality-as-a-disease/|title=WMA CONDEMNS PORTRAYAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY AS A DISEASE|pub=World Medical Association|date=21 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/|title=Finland’s Top Court Split on Christian Politician’s Hate Speech Charges|pub=Christianity Today|author=Ken Chitwood|date=27 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/28665-supreme-court-convicts-mp-paeivi-raesaenen-over-hate-speech.html|title=Supreme Court convicts MP Päivi Räsänen over hate speech|pub=Helsinki Times|author=|date=27 March 2026}} [[Category:March 26, 2026]] [[Category:LGBT]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Free speech]] [[Category:Democracy]] [[Category:Christianity]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:European Union]] [[Category:Europe]] 2xkyeak89kq583dfijiaztz9ssmxqkh 5005197 5005196 2026-04-05T23:17:01Z Lofi Gurl 2885970 5005197 wikitext text/x-wiki {{tasks|news|re-review}} {{LGBT}} {{Date|26 March 2026}} In a landmark ruling on March 26, the {{w|Supreme Court of Finland}} convicted {{w|Päivi Räsänen}}, a member of the {{w|Christian Democrats (Finland)|Christian Democrats}} party in the {{w|Parliament of Finland}} and {{w|Juhana Pohjola}}, the bishop of the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}}, as well as the {{w|Luther Foundation of Finland}} and the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}} of {{w|crimes against humanity|crimes against the humanity}} of gays and lesbians. The defendants were convicted under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} concerning {{w|crimes against humanity}}, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made claims about {{w|homosexuality|foreign=force}} that contradicted the consensus of the {{w|scientific community}}. The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of {{w|freedom of speech|foreign=force}} and {{w|freedom of religion}} with {{w|hate speech}} and crimes against humanity, as well as {{w|LGBT rights}} and {{w|human rights|foreign=force}} in {{w|liberal democracy|liberal democracies}}. In the pamphlet, ''Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity'', Räsänen argued her belief that homosexuality and {{w|Christianity|foreign=force}} are incompatible. Räsänen quoted verses from the {{w|Bible}} to support her argument, but claimed that homosexuality is a "sexual abnormality", a "developmental disorder", and a "disorder of psychosexual development". The court stated that these claims were contrary to the global {{w|scientific consensus}} that homosexuality is a normal variation of {{w|human sexuality}} and not a disease or disorder. The response to the ruling from Finnish politicians was mixed. The {{w|Prime Minister of Finland}}, {{w|Petteri Orpo}}, of the centre-right {{w|National Coalition Party}}, took a stand against political interference in the judiciary and stated that "politicians should not comment on court decisions". Those from Räsänen's Christian Democrats party and the right-wing {{w|Finns Party}} criticised the court's decision, with {{w|Riikka Purra}}, the {{w|Deputy Prime Minister of Finland}} posting on social media: "Freedom of speech took another serious hit today through the supreme court’s voting decision." Other politicians praised the decision, with opposition party leader, {{w|Sofia Virta}}, of the centre-left {{w|Green League}}, saying that "Finland is a country where people must not be labelled or mocked without consequence. Freedom of speech is important, but it comes with responsibility." The court dismissed a related charge against Räsänen over a post on {{w|X (social network)|X}} (then a {{w|Tweet (social media)|tweet}} on Twitter), that quoted a series of Bible verses, ''Romans 1:24–27'', to back her beliefs about {{w|same-sex relationship}}s, finding that it was a subjective religious opinion. Upon closer examination, the court found that while the parts of the pamphlet that consisted only of religious arguments and quoted the Bible were merely subjective religious opinions, the other portions {{w|dehumanization|dehumanised}} an entire minority on the basis of their sexual orientation, constituting crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians. The Supreme Court convicted Räsänen who wrote the document, Pohjola who edited it, and the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese who published it. {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source|url=https://www.christian.org.uk/news/finnish-christian-mp-convicted-of-crimes-against-humanity-for-church-booklet-on-marriage/|title=Finnish Christian MP convicted of ‘crimes against humanity’ for church booklet on marriage|pub=Christian Institute|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case|title=Landmark ruling expected in Finnish politician's Bible tweet case|pub=Christian Today|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder|title=Finnish MP convicted for saying homosexuality is ‘developmental disorder’|pub=The Guardian|author=Miranda Bryant|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html|title=Supreme Court fines European MP over homosexuality comments|pub=The Independent|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.reuters.com/world/finlands-supreme-court-fines-mp-calling-homosexuality-developmental-disorder-2026-03-26/|title=Finland's Supreme Court fines MP for calling homosexuality 'developmental disorder'|pub=Reuters|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-statement-on-natural-variations-of-human-sexuality/|title=WMA STATEMENT ON NATURAL VARIATIONS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY|pub=World Medical Association|date=18 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/what-we-do/human-rights/lgbt/|pub=World Medical Association|title=LGBT {{!}} Health and Natural Variations of Human Sexuality|date=March 28, 2026 (date of access)}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-condemns-portrayal-of-homosexuality-as-a-disease/|title=WMA CONDEMNS PORTRAYAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY AS A DISEASE|pub=World Medical Association|date=21 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/|title=Finland’s Top Court Split on Christian Politician’s Hate Speech Charges|pub=Christianity Today|author=Ken Chitwood|date=27 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/28665-supreme-court-convicts-mp-paeivi-raesaenen-over-hate-speech.html|title=Supreme Court convicts MP Päivi Räsänen over hate speech|pub=Helsinki Times|author=|date=27 March 2026}} [[Category:March 26, 2026]] [[Category:LGBT]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Free speech]] [[Category:Democracy]] [[Category:Christianity]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:European Union]] [[Category:Europe]] rujcuvuhezljip63oawuqglpnnu44f7 5005198 5005197 2026-04-05T23:18:31Z Lofi Gurl 2885970 5005198 wikitext text/x-wiki {{tasks|news|re-review}} {{LGBT}} {{Date|26 March 2026}} In a landmark ruling on March 26, the {{w|Supreme Court of Finland}} convicted {{w|Päivi Räsänen}}, a member of the {{w|Christian Democrats (Finland)|Christian Democrats}} party in the {{w|Parliament of Finland}} and {{w|Juhana Pohjola}}, the bishop of the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}}, as well as the {{w|Luther Foundation of Finland}} and the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}} of {{w|crimes against humanity|crimes against the humanity}} of gays and lesbians. The defendants were convicted under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} concerning {{w|crimes against humanity}}, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made claims about {{w|homosexuality|foreign=force}} that contradicted the consensus of the {{w|scientific community}}. The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of {{w|freedom of speech|foreign=force}} and {{w|freedom of religion}} with {{w|hate speech}} and crimes against humanity, as well as {{w|LGBT rights}} and {{w|human rights|foreign=force}} in {{w|liberal democracy|liberal democracies}}. In the pamphlet, ''Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity'', Räsänen argued her belief that homosexuality and {{w|Christianity|foreign=force}} are incompatible. She claimed that homosexuality was a "sexual abnormality" and a "developmental disorder" quoting verses from the {{w|Bible}} to support her argument. The court stated that these claims were contrary to the global {{w|scientific consensus}} that homosexuality was a normal variation of {{w|human sexuality}} and not a disease or disorder. The response to the ruling from Finnish politicians was mixed. The {{w|Prime Minister of Finland}}, {{w|Petteri Orpo}}, of the centre-right {{w|National Coalition Party}}, took a stand against political interference in the judiciary and stated that "politicians should not comment on court decisions". Those from Räsänen's Christian Democrats party and the right-wing {{w|Finns Party}} criticised the court's decision, with {{w|Riikka Purra}}, the {{w|Deputy Prime Minister of Finland}} posting on social media: "Freedom of speech took another serious hit today through the supreme court’s voting decision." Other politicians praised the decision, with opposition party leader, {{w|Sofia Virta}}, of the centre-left {{w|Green League}}, saying that "Finland is a country where people must not be labelled or mocked without consequence. Freedom of speech is important, but it comes with responsibility." The court dismissed a related charge against Räsänen over a post on {{w|X (social network)|X}} (then a {{w|Tweet (social media)|tweet}} on Twitter), that quoted a series of Bible verses, ''Romans 1:24–27'', to back her beliefs about {{w|same-sex relationship}}s, finding that it was a subjective religious opinion. Upon closer examination, the court found that while the parts of the pamphlet that consisted only of religious arguments and quoted the Bible were merely subjective religious opinions, the other portions {{w|dehumanization|dehumanised}} an entire minority on the basis of their sexual orientation, constituting crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians. The Supreme Court convicted Räsänen who wrote the document, Pohjola who edited it, and the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese who published it. {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source|url=https://www.christian.org.uk/news/finnish-christian-mp-convicted-of-crimes-against-humanity-for-church-booklet-on-marriage/|title=Finnish Christian MP convicted of ‘crimes against humanity’ for church booklet on marriage|pub=Christian Institute|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case|title=Landmark ruling expected in Finnish politician's Bible tweet case|pub=Christian Today|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder|title=Finnish MP convicted for saying homosexuality is ‘developmental disorder’|pub=The Guardian|author=Miranda Bryant|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html|title=Supreme Court fines European MP over homosexuality comments|pub=The Independent|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.reuters.com/world/finlands-supreme-court-fines-mp-calling-homosexuality-developmental-disorder-2026-03-26/|title=Finland's Supreme Court fines MP for calling homosexuality 'developmental disorder'|pub=Reuters|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-statement-on-natural-variations-of-human-sexuality/|title=WMA STATEMENT ON NATURAL VARIATIONS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY|pub=World Medical Association|date=18 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/what-we-do/human-rights/lgbt/|pub=World Medical Association|title=LGBT {{!}} Health and Natural Variations of Human Sexuality|date=March 28, 2026 (date of access)}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-condemns-portrayal-of-homosexuality-as-a-disease/|title=WMA CONDEMNS PORTRAYAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY AS A DISEASE|pub=World Medical Association|date=21 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/|title=Finland’s Top Court Split on Christian Politician’s Hate Speech Charges|pub=Christianity Today|author=Ken Chitwood|date=27 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/28665-supreme-court-convicts-mp-paeivi-raesaenen-over-hate-speech.html|title=Supreme Court convicts MP Päivi Räsänen over hate speech|pub=Helsinki Times|author=|date=27 March 2026}} [[Category:March 26, 2026]] [[Category:LGBT]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Free speech]] [[Category:Democracy]] [[Category:Christianity]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:European Union]] [[Category:Europe]] j1sgflkgb33fen4h46c1srwb6zo682i 5005199 5005198 2026-04-05T23:19:44Z Lofi Gurl 2885970 5005199 wikitext text/x-wiki {{tasks|news|re-review}} {{LGBT}} {{Date|26 March 2026}} In a landmark ruling on March 26, the {{w|Supreme Court of Finland}} convicted {{w|Päivi Räsänen}}, a member of the {{w|Christian Democrats (Finland)|Christian Democrats}} party in the {{w|Parliament of Finland}} and {{w|Juhana Pohjola}}, the bishop of the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}}, as well as the {{w|Luther Foundation of Finland}} and the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}} of {{w|crimes against humanity|crimes against the humanity}} of gays and lesbians. The defendants were convicted under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} concerning {{w|crimes against humanity}}, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made claims about {{w|homosexuality|foreign=force}} that contradicted the consensus of the {{w|scientific community}}. The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of {{w|freedom of speech|foreign=force}} and {{w|freedom of religion}} with {{w|hate speech}} and crimes against humanity, as well as {{w|LGBT rights}} and {{w|human rights|foreign=force}} in {{w|liberal democracy|liberal democracies}}. In the pamphlet, ''Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity'', Räsänen argued her belief that homosexuality and {{w|Christianity|foreign=force}} are incompatible. She claimed that homosexuality was a "sexual abnormality" and a "developmental disorder" quoting verses from the {{w|Bible}} to support her argument. The court stated that these claims were contrary to the global {{w|scientific consensus}} that homosexuality was a normal variation of {{w|human sexuality}} and not a disease or disorder. The response to the ruling from Finnish politicians was mixed. The {{w|Prime Minister of Finland}}, {{w|Petteri Orpo}}, of the centre-right {{w|National Coalition Party}}, took a stand against political interference in the judiciary and stated that "politicians should not comment on court decisions". Those from Räsänen's Christian Democrats party and the right-wing {{w|Finns Party}} criticised the court's decision, with {{w|Riikka Purra}}, the {{w|Deputy Prime Minister of Finland}} posting on social media: "Freedom of speech took another serious hit today through the supreme court’s voting decision." Other politicians praised the decision, with opposition party leader, {{w|Sofia Virta}}, of the centre-left {{w|Green League}}, saying that "Finland is a country where people must not be labelled or mocked without consequence. Freedom of speech is important, but it comes with responsibility." The court dismissed a related charge against Räsänen over a post on {{w|X (social network)|X}} (then a {{w|Tweet (social media)|tweet}} on Twitter), that quoted a series of Bible verses, ''Romans 1:24–27'', to back her beliefs about {{w|same-sex relationship}}s, finding that it was a subjective religious opinion. Upon closer examination, the court found that while the parts of the pamphlet that consisted only of religious arguments and quoted the Bible were merely subjective religious opinions, the other portions {{w|dehumanization|dehumanised}} an entire minority on the basis of their sexual orientation, constituting crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians. {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source|url=https://www.christian.org.uk/news/finnish-christian-mp-convicted-of-crimes-against-humanity-for-church-booklet-on-marriage/|title=Finnish Christian MP convicted of ‘crimes against humanity’ for church booklet on marriage|pub=Christian Institute|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case|title=Landmark ruling expected in Finnish politician's Bible tweet case|pub=Christian Today|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder|title=Finnish MP convicted for saying homosexuality is ‘developmental disorder’|pub=The Guardian|author=Miranda Bryant|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html|title=Supreme Court fines European MP over homosexuality comments|pub=The Independent|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.reuters.com/world/finlands-supreme-court-fines-mp-calling-homosexuality-developmental-disorder-2026-03-26/|title=Finland's Supreme Court fines MP for calling homosexuality 'developmental disorder'|pub=Reuters|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-statement-on-natural-variations-of-human-sexuality/|title=WMA STATEMENT ON NATURAL VARIATIONS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY|pub=World Medical Association|date=18 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/what-we-do/human-rights/lgbt/|pub=World Medical Association|title=LGBT {{!}} Health and Natural Variations of Human Sexuality|date=March 28, 2026 (date of access)}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-condemns-portrayal-of-homosexuality-as-a-disease/|title=WMA CONDEMNS PORTRAYAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY AS A DISEASE|pub=World Medical Association|date=21 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/|title=Finland’s Top Court Split on Christian Politician’s Hate Speech Charges|pub=Christianity Today|author=Ken Chitwood|date=27 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/28665-supreme-court-convicts-mp-paeivi-raesaenen-over-hate-speech.html|title=Supreme Court convicts MP Päivi Räsänen over hate speech|pub=Helsinki Times|author=|date=27 March 2026}} [[Category:March 26, 2026]] [[Category:LGBT]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Free speech]] [[Category:Democracy]] [[Category:Christianity]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:European Union]] [[Category:Europe]] 09ydolh4x738uwnwzf0dyjs1bkmh58h 5005202 5005199 2026-04-05T23:22:00Z Lofi Gurl 2885970 5005202 wikitext text/x-wiki {{tasks|news|re-review}} {{LGBT}} {{Date|26 March 2026}} In a landmark ruling on March 26, the {{w|Supreme Court of Finland}} convicted {{w|Päivi Räsänen}}, a member of the {{w|Christian Democrats (Finland)|Christian Democrats}} party in the {{w|Parliament of Finland}} and {{w|Juhana Pohjola}}, the bishop of the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}}, as well as the {{w|Luther Foundation of Finland}} and the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}} of {{w|crimes against humanity|crimes against the humanity}} of gays and lesbians. The defendants were convicted under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} concerning {{w|crimes against humanity}}, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made claims about {{w|homosexuality|foreign=force}} that contradicted the consensus of the {{w|scientific community}}. The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of {{w|freedom of speech|foreign=force}} and {{w|freedom of religion}} with {{w|hate speech}} and crimes against humanity, as well as {{w|LGBT rights}} and {{w|human rights|foreign=force}} in {{w|liberal democracy|liberal democracies}}. In the pamphlet, ''Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity'', Räsänen argued her belief that homosexuality and {{w|Christianity|foreign=force}} are incompatible. She claimed that homosexuality was a "sexual abnormality" and a "developmental disorder" quoting verses from the {{w|Bible}} to support her argument. Upon closer examination, the court found that while the parts of the pamphlet were merely subjective religious opinions, other portions {{w|dehumanization|dehumanised}} sexual minorities, constituting crimes against humanity. The court stated that these claims were contrary to the global {{w|scientific consensus}} that homosexuality was a normal variation of {{w|human sexuality}} and not a disease or disorder. The response to the ruling from Finnish politicians was mixed. The {{w|Prime Minister of Finland}}, {{w|Petteri Orpo}}, of the centre-right {{w|National Coalition Party}}, took a stand against political interference in the judiciary and stated that "politicians should not comment on court decisions". Those from Räsänen's Christian Democrats party and the right-wing {{w|Finns Party}} criticised the court's decision, with {{w|Riikka Purra}}, the {{w|Deputy Prime Minister of Finland}} posting on social media: "Freedom of speech took another serious hit today through the supreme court’s voting decision." Other politicians praised the decision, with opposition party leader, {{w|Sofia Virta}}, of the centre-left {{w|Green League}}, saying that "Finland is a country where people must not be labelled or mocked without consequence. Freedom of speech is important, but it comes with responsibility." The court dismissed a related charge against Räsänen over a post on {{w|X (social network)|X}} (then a {{w|Tweet (social media)|tweet}} on Twitter), that quoted a series of Bible verses, ''Romans 1:24–27'', to back her beliefs about {{w|same-sex relationship}}s, finding that it was a subjective religious opinion. {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source|url=https://www.christian.org.uk/news/finnish-christian-mp-convicted-of-crimes-against-humanity-for-church-booklet-on-marriage/|title=Finnish Christian MP convicted of ‘crimes against humanity’ for church booklet on marriage|pub=Christian Institute|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case|title=Landmark ruling expected in Finnish politician's Bible tweet case|pub=Christian Today|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder|title=Finnish MP convicted for saying homosexuality is ‘developmental disorder’|pub=The Guardian|author=Miranda Bryant|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html|title=Supreme Court fines European MP over homosexuality comments|pub=The Independent|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.reuters.com/world/finlands-supreme-court-fines-mp-calling-homosexuality-developmental-disorder-2026-03-26/|title=Finland's Supreme Court fines MP for calling homosexuality 'developmental disorder'|pub=Reuters|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-statement-on-natural-variations-of-human-sexuality/|title=WMA STATEMENT ON NATURAL VARIATIONS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY|pub=World Medical Association|date=18 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/what-we-do/human-rights/lgbt/|pub=World Medical Association|title=LGBT {{!}} Health and Natural Variations of Human Sexuality|date=March 28, 2026 (date of access)}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-condemns-portrayal-of-homosexuality-as-a-disease/|title=WMA CONDEMNS PORTRAYAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY AS A DISEASE|pub=World Medical Association|date=21 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/|title=Finland’s Top Court Split on Christian Politician’s Hate Speech Charges|pub=Christianity Today|author=Ken Chitwood|date=27 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/28665-supreme-court-convicts-mp-paeivi-raesaenen-over-hate-speech.html|title=Supreme Court convicts MP Päivi Räsänen over hate speech|pub=Helsinki Times|author=|date=27 March 2026}} [[Category:March 26, 2026]] [[Category:LGBT]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Free speech]] [[Category:Democracy]] [[Category:Christianity]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:European Union]] [[Category:Europe]] riu9iouzx9rqmx72fdn9z802sk3oa4n 5005204 5005202 2026-04-05T23:23:10Z Lofi Gurl 2885970 Lofi Gurl moved page [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts Christians of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians in a landmark ruling]] to [[Supreme Court of Finland makes crimes against humanity convictions in landmark ruling]] over redirect: Never should have been changed back. 5005202 wikitext text/x-wiki {{tasks|news|re-review}} {{LGBT}} {{Date|26 March 2026}} In a landmark ruling on March 26, the {{w|Supreme Court of Finland}} convicted {{w|Päivi Räsänen}}, a member of the {{w|Christian Democrats (Finland)|Christian Democrats}} party in the {{w|Parliament of Finland}} and {{w|Juhana Pohjola}}, the bishop of the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}}, as well as the {{w|Luther Foundation of Finland}} and the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}} of {{w|crimes against humanity|crimes against the humanity}} of gays and lesbians. The defendants were convicted under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} concerning {{w|crimes against humanity}}, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made claims about {{w|homosexuality|foreign=force}} that contradicted the consensus of the {{w|scientific community}}. The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of {{w|freedom of speech|foreign=force}} and {{w|freedom of religion}} with {{w|hate speech}} and crimes against humanity, as well as {{w|LGBT rights}} and {{w|human rights|foreign=force}} in {{w|liberal democracy|liberal democracies}}. In the pamphlet, ''Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity'', Räsänen argued her belief that homosexuality and {{w|Christianity|foreign=force}} are incompatible. She claimed that homosexuality was a "sexual abnormality" and a "developmental disorder" quoting verses from the {{w|Bible}} to support her argument. Upon closer examination, the court found that while the parts of the pamphlet were merely subjective religious opinions, other portions {{w|dehumanization|dehumanised}} sexual minorities, constituting crimes against humanity. The court stated that these claims were contrary to the global {{w|scientific consensus}} that homosexuality was a normal variation of {{w|human sexuality}} and not a disease or disorder. The response to the ruling from Finnish politicians was mixed. The {{w|Prime Minister of Finland}}, {{w|Petteri Orpo}}, of the centre-right {{w|National Coalition Party}}, took a stand against political interference in the judiciary and stated that "politicians should not comment on court decisions". Those from Räsänen's Christian Democrats party and the right-wing {{w|Finns Party}} criticised the court's decision, with {{w|Riikka Purra}}, the {{w|Deputy Prime Minister of Finland}} posting on social media: "Freedom of speech took another serious hit today through the supreme court’s voting decision." Other politicians praised the decision, with opposition party leader, {{w|Sofia Virta}}, of the centre-left {{w|Green League}}, saying that "Finland is a country where people must not be labelled or mocked without consequence. Freedom of speech is important, but it comes with responsibility." The court dismissed a related charge against Räsänen over a post on {{w|X (social network)|X}} (then a {{w|Tweet (social media)|tweet}} on Twitter), that quoted a series of Bible verses, ''Romans 1:24–27'', to back her beliefs about {{w|same-sex relationship}}s, finding that it was a subjective religious opinion. {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source|url=https://www.christian.org.uk/news/finnish-christian-mp-convicted-of-crimes-against-humanity-for-church-booklet-on-marriage/|title=Finnish Christian MP convicted of ‘crimes against humanity’ for church booklet on marriage|pub=Christian Institute|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case|title=Landmark ruling expected in Finnish politician's Bible tweet case|pub=Christian Today|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder|title=Finnish MP convicted for saying homosexuality is ‘developmental disorder’|pub=The Guardian|author=Miranda Bryant|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html|title=Supreme Court fines European MP over homosexuality comments|pub=The Independent|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.reuters.com/world/finlands-supreme-court-fines-mp-calling-homosexuality-developmental-disorder-2026-03-26/|title=Finland's Supreme Court fines MP for calling homosexuality 'developmental disorder'|pub=Reuters|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-statement-on-natural-variations-of-human-sexuality/|title=WMA STATEMENT ON NATURAL VARIATIONS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY|pub=World Medical Association|date=18 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/what-we-do/human-rights/lgbt/|pub=World Medical Association|title=LGBT {{!}} Health and Natural Variations of Human Sexuality|date=March 28, 2026 (date of access)}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-condemns-portrayal-of-homosexuality-as-a-disease/|title=WMA CONDEMNS PORTRAYAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY AS A DISEASE|pub=World Medical Association|date=21 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/|title=Finland’s Top Court Split on Christian Politician’s Hate Speech Charges|pub=Christianity Today|author=Ken Chitwood|date=27 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/28665-supreme-court-convicts-mp-paeivi-raesaenen-over-hate-speech.html|title=Supreme Court convicts MP Päivi Räsänen over hate speech|pub=Helsinki Times|author=|date=27 March 2026}} [[Category:March 26, 2026]] [[Category:LGBT]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Free speech]] [[Category:Democracy]] [[Category:Christianity]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:European Union]] [[Category:Europe]] riu9iouzx9rqmx72fdn9z802sk3oa4n 5005210 5005204 2026-04-05T23:27:03Z Lofi Gurl 2885970 5005210 wikitext text/x-wiki {{review}} {{LGBT}} {{Date|26 March 2026}} In a landmark ruling on March 26, the {{w|Supreme Court of Finland}} convicted {{w|Päivi Räsänen}}, a member of the {{w|Christian Democrats (Finland)|Christian Democrats}} party in the {{w|Parliament of Finland}} and {{w|Juhana Pohjola}}, the bishop of the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}}, as well as the {{w|Luther Foundation of Finland}} and the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}} of {{w|crimes against humanity|crimes against the humanity}} of gays and lesbians. The defendants were convicted under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} concerning {{w|crimes against humanity}}, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made claims about {{w|homosexuality|foreign=force}} that contradicted the consensus of the {{w|scientific community}}. The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of {{w|freedom of speech|foreign=force}} and {{w|freedom of religion}} with {{w|hate speech}} and crimes against humanity, as well as {{w|LGBT rights}} and {{w|human rights|foreign=force}} in {{w|liberal democracy|liberal democracies}}. In the pamphlet, ''Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity'', Räsänen argued her belief that homosexuality and {{w|Christianity|foreign=force}} are incompatible. She claimed that homosexuality was a "sexual abnormality" and a "developmental disorder" quoting verses from the {{w|Bible}} to support her argument. Upon closer examination, the court found that while the parts of the pamphlet were merely subjective religious opinions, other portions {{w|dehumanization|dehumanised}} sexual minorities, constituting crimes against humanity. The court stated that these claims were contrary to the global {{w|scientific consensus}} that homosexuality was a normal variation of {{w|human sexuality}} and not a disease or disorder. The response to the ruling from Finnish politicians was mixed. The {{w|Prime Minister of Finland}}, {{w|Petteri Orpo}}, of the centre-right {{w|National Coalition Party}}, took a stand against political interference in the judiciary and stated that "politicians should not comment on court decisions". Those from Räsänen's Christian Democrats party and the right-wing {{w|Finns Party}} criticised the court's decision, with {{w|Riikka Purra}}, the {{w|Deputy Prime Minister of Finland}} posting on social media: "Freedom of speech took another serious hit today through the supreme court’s voting decision." Other politicians praised the decision, with opposition party leader, {{w|Sofia Virta}}, of the centre-left {{w|Green League}}, saying that "Finland is a country where people must not be labelled or mocked without consequence. Freedom of speech is important, but it comes with responsibility." The court dismissed a related charge against Räsänen over a post on {{w|X (social network)|X}} (then a {{w|Tweet (social media)|tweet}} on Twitter), that quoted a series of Bible verses, ''Romans 1:24–27'', to back her beliefs about {{w|same-sex relationship}}s, finding that it was a subjective religious opinion. {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source|url=https://www.christian.org.uk/news/finnish-christian-mp-convicted-of-crimes-against-humanity-for-church-booklet-on-marriage/|title=Finnish Christian MP convicted of ‘crimes against humanity’ for church booklet on marriage|pub=Christian Institute|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case|title=Landmark ruling expected in Finnish politician's Bible tweet case|pub=Christian Today|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder|title=Finnish MP convicted for saying homosexuality is ‘developmental disorder’|pub=The Guardian|author=Miranda Bryant|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html|title=Supreme Court fines European MP over homosexuality comments|pub=The Independent|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.reuters.com/world/finlands-supreme-court-fines-mp-calling-homosexuality-developmental-disorder-2026-03-26/|title=Finland's Supreme Court fines MP for calling homosexuality 'developmental disorder'|pub=Reuters|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-statement-on-natural-variations-of-human-sexuality/|title=WMA STATEMENT ON NATURAL VARIATIONS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY|pub=World Medical Association|date=18 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/what-we-do/human-rights/lgbt/|pub=World Medical Association|title=LGBT {{!}} Health and Natural Variations of Human Sexuality|date=March 28, 2026 (date of access)}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-condemns-portrayal-of-homosexuality-as-a-disease/|title=WMA CONDEMNS PORTRAYAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY AS A DISEASE|pub=World Medical Association|date=21 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/|title=Finland’s Top Court Split on Christian Politician’s Hate Speech Charges|pub=Christianity Today|author=Ken Chitwood|date=27 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/28665-supreme-court-convicts-mp-paeivi-raesaenen-over-hate-speech.html|title=Supreme Court convicts MP Päivi Räsänen over hate speech|pub=Helsinki Times|author=|date=27 March 2026}} [[Category:March 26, 2026]] [[Category:LGBT]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Free speech]] [[Category:Democracy]] [[Category:Christianity]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:European Union]] [[Category:Europe]] hrlpo4ynlpkeotpeu2ixo0qz8a05ba3 5005241 5005210 2026-04-06T01:33:15Z Gryllida 160590 Publishing the article. (via [[WN:EzPR_2025|EasyPeerReview 2025]]) 5005241 wikitext text/x-wiki {{LGBT}} {{Date|April 6, 2026}} In a landmark ruling on March 26, the {{w|Supreme Court of Finland}} convicted {{w|Päivi Räsänen}}, a member of the {{w|Christian Democrats (Finland)|Christian Democrats}} party in the {{w|Parliament of Finland}} and {{w|Juhana Pohjola}}, the bishop of the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}}, as well as the {{w|Luther Foundation of Finland}} and the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}} of {{w|crimes against humanity|crimes against the humanity}} of gays and lesbians. The defendants were convicted under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} concerning {{w|crimes against humanity}}, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made claims about {{w|homosexuality|foreign=force}} that contradicted the consensus of the {{w|scientific community}}. The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of {{w|freedom of speech|foreign=force}} and {{w|freedom of religion}} with {{w|hate speech}} and crimes against humanity, as well as {{w|LGBT rights}} and {{w|human rights|foreign=force}} in {{w|liberal democracy|liberal democracies}}. In the pamphlet, ''Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity'', Räsänen argued her belief that homosexuality and {{w|Christianity|foreign=force}} are incompatible. She claimed that homosexuality was a "sexual abnormality" and a "developmental disorder" quoting verses from the {{w|Bible}} to support her argument. Upon closer examination, the court found that while the parts of the pamphlet were merely subjective religious opinions, other portions {{w|dehumanization|dehumanised}} sexual minorities, constituting crimes against humanity. The court stated that these claims were contrary to the global {{w|scientific consensus}} that homosexuality was a normal variation of {{w|human sexuality}} and not a disease or disorder. The response to the ruling from Finnish politicians was mixed. The {{w|Prime Minister of Finland}}, {{w|Petteri Orpo}}, of the centre-right {{w|National Coalition Party}}, took a stand against political interference in the judiciary and stated that "politicians should not comment on court decisions". Those from Räsänen's Christian Democrats party and the right-wing {{w|Finns Party}} criticised the court's decision, with {{w|Riikka Purra}}, the {{w|Deputy Prime Minister of Finland}} posting on social media: "Freedom of speech took another serious hit today through the supreme court’s voting decision." Other politicians praised the decision, with opposition party leader, {{w|Sofia Virta}}, of the centre-left {{w|Green League}}, saying that "Finland is a country where people must not be labelled or mocked without consequence. Freedom of speech is important, but it comes with responsibility." The court dismissed a related charge against Räsänen over a post on {{w|X (social network)|X}} (then a {{w|Tweet (social media)|tweet}} on Twitter), that quoted a series of Bible verses, ''Romans 1:24–27'', to back her beliefs about {{w|same-sex relationship}}s, finding that it was a subjective religious opinion. {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source|url=https://www.christian.org.uk/news/finnish-christian-mp-convicted-of-crimes-against-humanity-for-church-booklet-on-marriage/|title=Finnish Christian MP convicted of ‘crimes against humanity’ for church booklet on marriage|pub=Christian Institute|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case|title=Landmark ruling expected in Finnish politician's Bible tweet case|pub=Christian Today|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder|title=Finnish MP convicted for saying homosexuality is ‘developmental disorder’|pub=The Guardian|author=Miranda Bryant|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html|title=Supreme Court fines European MP over homosexuality comments|pub=The Independent|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.reuters.com/world/finlands-supreme-court-fines-mp-calling-homosexuality-developmental-disorder-2026-03-26/|title=Finland's Supreme Court fines MP for calling homosexuality 'developmental disorder'|pub=Reuters|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-statement-on-natural-variations-of-human-sexuality/|title=WMA STATEMENT ON NATURAL VARIATIONS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY|pub=World Medical Association|date=18 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/what-we-do/human-rights/lgbt/|pub=World Medical Association|title=LGBT {{!}} Health and Natural Variations of Human Sexuality|date=March 28, 2026 (date of access)}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-condemns-portrayal-of-homosexuality-as-a-disease/|title=WMA CONDEMNS PORTRAYAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY AS A DISEASE|pub=World Medical Association|date=21 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/|title=Finland’s Top Court Split on Christian Politician’s Hate Speech Charges|pub=Christianity Today|author=Ken Chitwood|date=27 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/28665-supreme-court-convicts-mp-paeivi-raesaenen-over-hate-speech.html|title=Supreme Court convicts MP Päivi Räsänen over hate speech|pub=Helsinki Times|author=|date=27 March 2026}} {{Publish}} [[Category:March 26, 2026]] [[Category:LGBT]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Free speech]] [[Category:Democracy]] [[Category:Christianity]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:European Union]] [[Category:Europe]] 5nych6ettd3vyn294dmtv7lm6wj33qc 5005253 5005241 2026-04-06T01:36:56Z Gryllida 160590 /* Sources */ sort 5005253 wikitext text/x-wiki {{LGBT}} {{Date|April 6, 2026}} In a landmark ruling on March 26, the {{w|Supreme Court of Finland}} convicted {{w|Päivi Räsänen}}, a member of the {{w|Christian Democrats (Finland)|Christian Democrats}} party in the {{w|Parliament of Finland}} and {{w|Juhana Pohjola}}, the bishop of the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}}, as well as the {{w|Luther Foundation of Finland}} and the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}} of {{w|crimes against humanity|crimes against the humanity}} of gays and lesbians. The defendants were convicted under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} concerning {{w|crimes against humanity}}, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made claims about {{w|homosexuality|foreign=force}} that contradicted the consensus of the {{w|scientific community}}. The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of {{w|freedom of speech|foreign=force}} and {{w|freedom of religion}} with {{w|hate speech}} and crimes against humanity, as well as {{w|LGBT rights}} and {{w|human rights|foreign=force}} in {{w|liberal democracy|liberal democracies}}. In the pamphlet, ''Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity'', Räsänen argued her belief that homosexuality and {{w|Christianity|foreign=force}} are incompatible. She claimed that homosexuality was a "sexual abnormality" and a "developmental disorder" quoting verses from the {{w|Bible}} to support her argument. Upon closer examination, the court found that while the parts of the pamphlet were merely subjective religious opinions, other portions {{w|dehumanization|dehumanised}} sexual minorities, constituting crimes against humanity. The court stated that these claims were contrary to the global {{w|scientific consensus}} that homosexuality was a normal variation of {{w|human sexuality}} and not a disease or disorder. The response to the ruling from Finnish politicians was mixed. The {{w|Prime Minister of Finland}}, {{w|Petteri Orpo}}, of the centre-right {{w|National Coalition Party}}, took a stand against political interference in the judiciary and stated that "politicians should not comment on court decisions". Those from Räsänen's Christian Democrats party and the right-wing {{w|Finns Party}} criticised the court's decision, with {{w|Riikka Purra}}, the {{w|Deputy Prime Minister of Finland}} posting on social media: "Freedom of speech took another serious hit today through the supreme court’s voting decision." Other politicians praised the decision, with opposition party leader, {{w|Sofia Virta}}, of the centre-left {{w|Green League}}, saying that "Finland is a country where people must not be labelled or mocked without consequence. Freedom of speech is important, but it comes with responsibility." The court dismissed a related charge against Räsänen over a post on {{w|X (social network)|X}} (then a {{w|Tweet (social media)|tweet}} on Twitter), that quoted a series of Bible verses, ''Romans 1:24–27'', to back her beliefs about {{w|same-sex relationship}}s, finding that it was a subjective religious opinion. {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source|url=https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/|title=Finland’s Top Court Split on Christian Politician’s Hate Speech Charges|pub=Christianity Today|author=Ken Chitwood|date=27 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/28665-supreme-court-convicts-mp-paeivi-raesaenen-over-hate-speech.html|title=Supreme Court convicts MP Päivi Räsänen over hate speech|pub=Helsinki Times|author=|date=27 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christian.org.uk/news/finnish-christian-mp-convicted-of-crimes-against-humanity-for-church-booklet-on-marriage/|title=Finnish Christian MP convicted of ‘crimes against humanity’ for church booklet on marriage|pub=Christian Institute|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case|title=Landmark ruling expected in Finnish politician's Bible tweet case|pub=Christian Today|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder|title=Finnish MP convicted for saying homosexuality is ‘developmental disorder’|pub=The Guardian|author=Miranda Bryant|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html|title=Supreme Court fines European MP over homosexuality comments|pub=The Independent|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.reuters.com/world/finlands-supreme-court-fines-mp-calling-homosexuality-developmental-disorder-2026-03-26/|title=Finland's Supreme Court fines MP for calling homosexuality 'developmental disorder'|pub=Reuters|author=Anne Kauranen|date=26 March 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-statement-on-natural-variations-of-human-sexuality/|title=WMA STATEMENT ON NATURAL VARIATIONS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY|pub=World Medical Association|date=18 October 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/what-we-do/human-rights/lgbt/|pub=World Medical Association|title=LGBT {{!}} Health and Natural Variations of Human Sexuality|date=March 28, 2026 (date of access)}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-condemns-portrayal-of-homosexuality-as-a-disease/|title=WMA CONDEMNS PORTRAYAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY AS A DISEASE|pub=World Medical Association|date=21 October 2013}} {{Publish}} [[Category:March 26, 2026]] [[Category:LGBT]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Free speech]] [[Category:Democracy]] [[Category:Christianity]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:European Union]] [[Category:Europe]] agq102egiul4sl9p7or8lm1hpg2xa96 5005255 5005253 2026-04-06T01:38:08Z Gryllida 160590 /* Sources */ formatting of date 5005255 wikitext text/x-wiki {{LGBT}} {{Date|April 6, 2026}} In a landmark ruling on March 26, the {{w|Supreme Court of Finland}} convicted {{w|Päivi Räsänen}}, a member of the {{w|Christian Democrats (Finland)|Christian Democrats}} party in the {{w|Parliament of Finland}} and {{w|Juhana Pohjola}}, the bishop of the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}}, as well as the {{w|Luther Foundation of Finland}} and the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}} of {{w|crimes against humanity|crimes against the humanity}} of gays and lesbians. The defendants were convicted under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} concerning {{w|crimes against humanity}}, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made claims about {{w|homosexuality|foreign=force}} that contradicted the consensus of the {{w|scientific community}}. The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of {{w|freedom of speech|foreign=force}} and {{w|freedom of religion}} with {{w|hate speech}} and crimes against humanity, as well as {{w|LGBT rights}} and {{w|human rights|foreign=force}} in {{w|liberal democracy|liberal democracies}}. In the pamphlet, ''Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity'', Räsänen argued her belief that homosexuality and {{w|Christianity|foreign=force}} are incompatible. She claimed that homosexuality was a "sexual abnormality" and a "developmental disorder" quoting verses from the {{w|Bible}} to support her argument. Upon closer examination, the court found that while the parts of the pamphlet were merely subjective religious opinions, other portions {{w|dehumanization|dehumanised}} sexual minorities, constituting crimes against humanity. The court stated that these claims were contrary to the global {{w|scientific consensus}} that homosexuality was a normal variation of {{w|human sexuality}} and not a disease or disorder. The response to the ruling from Finnish politicians was mixed. The {{w|Prime Minister of Finland}}, {{w|Petteri Orpo}}, of the centre-right {{w|National Coalition Party}}, took a stand against political interference in the judiciary and stated that "politicians should not comment on court decisions". Those from Räsänen's Christian Democrats party and the right-wing {{w|Finns Party}} criticised the court's decision, with {{w|Riikka Purra}}, the {{w|Deputy Prime Minister of Finland}} posting on social media: "Freedom of speech took another serious hit today through the supreme court’s voting decision." Other politicians praised the decision, with opposition party leader, {{w|Sofia Virta}}, of the centre-left {{w|Green League}}, saying that "Finland is a country where people must not be labelled or mocked without consequence. Freedom of speech is important, but it comes with responsibility." The court dismissed a related charge against Räsänen over a post on {{w|X (social network)|X}} (then a {{w|Tweet (social media)|tweet}} on Twitter), that quoted a series of Bible verses, ''Romans 1:24–27'', to back her beliefs about {{w|same-sex relationship}}s, finding that it was a subjective religious opinion. {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/what-we-do/human-rights/lgbt/|pub=World Medical Association|title=LGBT {{!}} Health and Natural Variations of Human Sexuality|date=March 28, 2026 (date of access)}} *{{source|url=https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/|title=Finland’s Top Court Split on Christian Politician’s Hate Speech Charges|pub=Christianity Today|author=Ken Chitwood|date=March 27, 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/28665-supreme-court-convicts-mp-paeivi-raesaenen-over-hate-speech.html|title=Supreme Court convicts MP Päivi Räsänen over hate speech|pub=Helsinki Times|author=|date=March 27, 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christian.org.uk/news/finnish-christian-mp-convicted-of-crimes-against-humanity-for-church-booklet-on-marriage/|title=Finnish Christian MP convicted of ‘crimes against humanity’ for church booklet on marriage|pub=Christian Institute|date=March 26, 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case|title=Landmark ruling expected in Finnish politician's Bible tweet case|pub=Christian Today|date=March 26, 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder|title=Finnish MP convicted for saying homosexuality is ‘developmental disorder’|pub=The Guardian|author=Miranda Bryant|date=March 26, 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html|title=Supreme Court fines European MP over homosexuality comments|pub=The Independent|author=Anne Kauranen|date=March 26, 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.reuters.com/world/finlands-supreme-court-fines-mp-calling-homosexuality-developmental-disorder-2026-03-26/|title=Finland's Supreme Court fines MP for calling homosexuality 'developmental disorder'|pub=Reuters|author=Anne Kauranen|date=March 26, 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-statement-on-natural-variations-of-human-sexuality/|title=WMA STATEMENT ON NATURAL VARIATIONS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY|pub=World Medical Association|date=October 18, 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-condemns-portrayal-of-homosexuality-as-a-disease/|title=WMA CONDEMNS PORTRAYAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY AS A DISEASE|pub=World Medical Association|date=October 21, 2013}} {{Publish}} [[Category:March 26, 2026]] [[Category:LGBT]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Free speech]] [[Category:Democracy]] [[Category:Christianity]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:European Union]] [[Category:Europe]] 60dgsdljh9rs02pvhw7bdplqnaaggnj 1 3087566 5005187 5004996 2026-04-05T23:07:02Z Lofi Gurl 2885970 /* Review of revision 5005122 [Not ready] */ new section 5005187 wikitext text/x-wiki == Headline question == I questioned the use of the term "crimes against humanity" in the headline and lead paragraph based on the following: :I would note that one of the cited sources, [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder this article from The Guardian], begins with the sentence, "A Finnish member of parliament has been found guilty by the country’s supreme court of inciting hatred after claiming that homosexuality was a 'developmental disorder', in a conviction that prompted criticism from far-right government ministers." That source doesn't even mention the term "crimes against humanity" at all. Another cited article from [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html The Independent] doesn't mention "crimes against humanity", either. I am also concerned that the use of the term "{{w|crimes against humanity}}" may be considered misleading as to the nature of the charges involved notwithstanding how the term is used in the Finnish Criminal Code which few English Wikinews readers may be familiar with. [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:16, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :Hello, Metropolitan90! [[User_talk:Metropolitan90#c-Justthefacts-20260328005600-Regarding your move of my article|As I also noted in a message to you on your user talk page]], the actual charge, the actual crime, and the actual conviction all fall under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} that concerns {{w|crimes against humanity}}. Moreover, there is a particular focus from several sources on the fact that Räsänen and Pohjola were convicted under the section of the Criminal Code of Finland that concerns crimes against humanity. If there are any ambiguities at all, all will be resolved when readers read the article itself. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 01:37, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ::Two of the cited sources ([https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case Christian Today], [https://adfinternational.org/news/breaking-landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-bible-tweet-case-tomorrow ADF International]) both say that Rasanen was convicted under a section titled “war crimes and crimes against humanity”, but I hope we're not going to change the headline to say that Rasanen and Pohjola were convicted of war crimes, too. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:57, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :::The section specifically concerns crimes against humanity and courts determine the severity of the crimes against humanity that were committed, which can range from simply dehumanising a minority to genocide and war crimes. The section of the criminal code of Finland is based on the expertise and scholarship of experts and scholars of crimes against humanity who hold that crimes against humanity begin relatively simple in the form of simply dehumanising minorities and continue escalating until eventually genocide and war crimes. This landmark ruling is precisely regarded as such because it considers that even the most simplest form, dehumanising a minority, does indeed constitute a crime against humanity in and of itself. --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 02:04, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ==Luther Foundation== Where does it say that the Luther Foundation was convicted, too? I just checked all of the cited sources and I couldn't find where any of them said that the Luther Foundation was also convicted. In fact, I only saw the phrase "Luther Foundation" in two of the articles ([https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder The Guardian] and [https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/ Christianity Today]). --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:03, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :Resolved. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:01, 28 March 2026 (UTC) == Minor revision requested == @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] The article's lead section is required to state when the focal point event took place (calendar day, day of the week, ect.). Can you add that in real quick? I would add it myself but I intend to review this article. Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:31, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :March 26, 2026 Alliance Defending Freedom International :@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:35, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::Claude AI helped me. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:35, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :::Can you add to the article that the ruling happened on Thursday so I don't have to? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:48, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thank you @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]]. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:03, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == Might want to read this == The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet. Alliance Defending Freedom International @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:37, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :https://claude.ai/chat/aa894899-c1f6-4236-964a-f90a3f25a23b Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:44, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::What is this? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:47, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :::The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet.I asked Claude and this is what was said about the headline. :::The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet. :::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], thanks. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:52, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :The actual charge, actual crime, and actual conviction are all under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} that concerns {{w|crimes against humanity}}. Any {{w|Artificial intelligence}}, {{w|chatbot}}, {{w|generative AI}}, {{w|large language model}} can be incorrect about the facts, which is why it is necessary to manually verify. Thank for your involvement nonetheless, @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]]. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:02, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == More headline problems == The headline now says, "Supreme Court of Finland makes crimes against the humanity convictions in landmark ruling". This doesn't sound like idiomatic English. The commonly used phrase is "crimes against humanity", not "crimes against the humanity", at least in this context (note that it no longer says "crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians"). Also, the phrase that a court "makes [name of crime] convictions" is awkward. I wouldn't write that a court "makes murder convictions", "makes kidnapping convictions", etc.; I would write that a court "convicts [someone] of murder", "convicts [someone] of kidnapping", etc. Or in this case, the Supreme Court of Finland convicts [the specified defendants] of crimes against humanity, although several versions of the headline has gone back and forth as to whether to refer to them by name, as politicians, or as Christians. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 02:57, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that it is too vague tom simply say that the Supreme Court of Finland made convictions. It should say against Christians, rather than by name or politicians, because there are four defendants, of whom two are individuals and of whom only one is politician and the other is a bishop, and the other two defendants are institutions, and the only thing that they have in common is that they are all Christian. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:34, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Way too many sources == I'm sorry but its just going to take me way too long to review this given that there are like ten sources used in the article and I don't even know if all of them are required to verify the info, I am very overwhelmed at this point, other editors have been moaning and bitching about the way I review articles, and the WMF is now officially closing Wikinews next month so there's no point in finishing this anyway. You can try and see if someone else can review this, but given the way things have been going here the last six months I would not bank on it, man. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 12:41, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I used a significant amount of sources just to be sure, because this is my very first ever Wikinews article! I really appreciate your edits and your work! Could you try and see this through to the end? I really put in a lot of work into this article and would really like to see it published! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 22:51, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]], come join my news wiki. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Yes, I will try. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:02, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5003204 [Not ready] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=5003204|copyright=n/a|newsworthy=pass|verifiable=n/a|npov=The author's reversion of my removal reintroduced neutrality errors into the artcile. The language is way to emotional and wordy for a WN article. |style=There were some really wordy parts with severe overlinking that I removed, but my edits were reverted, bringing the article further from publishable state. |reviewer=Lofi Gurl|comments=The project is fucking fried, man. I'm sorry we couldn't get this published. The announcement to close the project has really just gutted us all, and honestly we are in "wind down" mode now. There is nothing I can do. I'm sorry. |time=23:25, 1 April 2026 (UTC)}} == Note to reviewer(s) == Hello, I edited the text to remove one sentence that was vague and created bias ( is consistently ranked at or near the top of various indices of freedom and democracy, and is therefore broadly considered to be a model liberal democracy.) this sentence may be re-added if details is included. I re-ordered for inverted pyramid I re-worded for past tense I added clarifications where possible to avoid bias and make the article more neutral and I submitted it for review. Hope this is helpful. Newsworthiness is an issue and I hope it can be passed with exception as articles were not published for a while. Please also note I posted a section [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Proposal_to_cease_publishing_after_around_April_14 here]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:16, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5005122 [Not ready] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=5005122|copyright=n/a|newsworthy=Stale. [[WN:GATWICKING]] recomended.|verifiable=n/a|npov=n/a|style=n/a|reviewer=Lofi Gurl|comments=|time=23:07, 5 April 2026 (UTC)}} ck2duru4898v4o0ud13upej9xdj6ffy 5005189 5005187 2026-04-05T23:07:57Z Lofi Gurl 2885970 /* Review of revision 5005122 [Not ready] */ 5005189 wikitext text/x-wiki == Headline question == I questioned the use of the term "crimes against humanity" in the headline and lead paragraph based on the following: :I would note that one of the cited sources, [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder this article from The Guardian], begins with the sentence, "A Finnish member of parliament has been found guilty by the country’s supreme court of inciting hatred after claiming that homosexuality was a 'developmental disorder', in a conviction that prompted criticism from far-right government ministers." That source doesn't even mention the term "crimes against humanity" at all. Another cited article from [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html The Independent] doesn't mention "crimes against humanity", either. I am also concerned that the use of the term "{{w|crimes against humanity}}" may be considered misleading as to the nature of the charges involved notwithstanding how the term is used in the Finnish Criminal Code which few English Wikinews readers may be familiar with. [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:16, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :Hello, Metropolitan90! [[User_talk:Metropolitan90#c-Justthefacts-20260328005600-Regarding your move of my article|As I also noted in a message to you on your user talk page]], the actual charge, the actual crime, and the actual conviction all fall under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} that concerns {{w|crimes against humanity}}. Moreover, there is a particular focus from several sources on the fact that Räsänen and Pohjola were convicted under the section of the Criminal Code of Finland that concerns crimes against humanity. If there are any ambiguities at all, all will be resolved when readers read the article itself. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 01:37, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ::Two of the cited sources ([https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case Christian Today], [https://adfinternational.org/news/breaking-landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-bible-tweet-case-tomorrow ADF International]) both say that Rasanen was convicted under a section titled “war crimes and crimes against humanity”, but I hope we're not going to change the headline to say that Rasanen and Pohjola were convicted of war crimes, too. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:57, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :::The section specifically concerns crimes against humanity and courts determine the severity of the crimes against humanity that were committed, which can range from simply dehumanising a minority to genocide and war crimes. The section of the criminal code of Finland is based on the expertise and scholarship of experts and scholars of crimes against humanity who hold that crimes against humanity begin relatively simple in the form of simply dehumanising minorities and continue escalating until eventually genocide and war crimes. This landmark ruling is precisely regarded as such because it considers that even the most simplest form, dehumanising a minority, does indeed constitute a crime against humanity in and of itself. --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 02:04, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ==Luther Foundation== Where does it say that the Luther Foundation was convicted, too? I just checked all of the cited sources and I couldn't find where any of them said that the Luther Foundation was also convicted. In fact, I only saw the phrase "Luther Foundation" in two of the articles ([https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder The Guardian] and [https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/ Christianity Today]). --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:03, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :Resolved. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:01, 28 March 2026 (UTC) == Minor revision requested == @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] The article's lead section is required to state when the focal point event took place (calendar day, day of the week, ect.). Can you add that in real quick? I would add it myself but I intend to review this article. Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:31, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :March 26, 2026 Alliance Defending Freedom International :@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:35, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::Claude AI helped me. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:35, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :::Can you add to the article that the ruling happened on Thursday so I don't have to? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:48, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thank you @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]]. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:03, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == Might want to read this == The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet. Alliance Defending Freedom International @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:37, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :https://claude.ai/chat/aa894899-c1f6-4236-964a-f90a3f25a23b Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:44, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::What is this? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:47, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :::The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet.I asked Claude and this is what was said about the headline. :::The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet. :::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], thanks. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:52, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :The actual charge, actual crime, and actual conviction are all under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} that concerns {{w|crimes against humanity}}. Any {{w|Artificial intelligence}}, {{w|chatbot}}, {{w|generative AI}}, {{w|large language model}} can be incorrect about the facts, which is why it is necessary to manually verify. Thank for your involvement nonetheless, @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]]. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:02, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == More headline problems == The headline now says, "Supreme Court of Finland makes crimes against the humanity convictions in landmark ruling". This doesn't sound like idiomatic English. The commonly used phrase is "crimes against humanity", not "crimes against the humanity", at least in this context (note that it no longer says "crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians"). Also, the phrase that a court "makes [name of crime] convictions" is awkward. I wouldn't write that a court "makes murder convictions", "makes kidnapping convictions", etc.; I would write that a court "convicts [someone] of murder", "convicts [someone] of kidnapping", etc. Or in this case, the Supreme Court of Finland convicts [the specified defendants] of crimes against humanity, although several versions of the headline has gone back and forth as to whether to refer to them by name, as politicians, or as Christians. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 02:57, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that it is too vague tom simply say that the Supreme Court of Finland made convictions. It should say against Christians, rather than by name or politicians, because there are four defendants, of whom two are individuals and of whom only one is politician and the other is a bishop, and the other two defendants are institutions, and the only thing that they have in common is that they are all Christian. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:34, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Way too many sources == I'm sorry but its just going to take me way too long to review this given that there are like ten sources used in the article and I don't even know if all of them are required to verify the info, I am very overwhelmed at this point, other editors have been moaning and bitching about the way I review articles, and the WMF is now officially closing Wikinews next month so there's no point in finishing this anyway. You can try and see if someone else can review this, but given the way things have been going here the last six months I would not bank on it, man. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 12:41, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I used a significant amount of sources just to be sure, because this is my very first ever Wikinews article! I really appreciate your edits and your work! Could you try and see this through to the end? I really put in a lot of work into this article and would really like to see it published! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 22:51, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]], come join my news wiki. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Yes, I will try. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:02, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5003204 [Not ready] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=5003204|copyright=n/a|newsworthy=pass|verifiable=n/a|npov=The author's reversion of my removal reintroduced neutrality errors into the artcile. The language is way to emotional and wordy for a WN article. |style=There were some really wordy parts with severe overlinking that I removed, but my edits were reverted, bringing the article further from publishable state. |reviewer=Lofi Gurl|comments=The project is fucking fried, man. I'm sorry we couldn't get this published. The announcement to close the project has really just gutted us all, and honestly we are in "wind down" mode now. There is nothing I can do. I'm sorry. |time=23:25, 1 April 2026 (UTC)}} == Note to reviewer(s) == Hello, I edited the text to remove one sentence that was vague and created bias ( is consistently ranked at or near the top of various indices of freedom and democracy, and is therefore broadly considered to be a model liberal democracy.) this sentence may be re-added if details is included. I re-ordered for inverted pyramid I re-worded for past tense I added clarifications where possible to avoid bias and make the article more neutral and I submitted it for review. Hope this is helpful. Newsworthiness is an issue and I hope it can be passed with exception as articles were not published for a while. Please also note I posted a section [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Proposal_to_cease_publishing_after_around_April_14 here]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:16, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5005122 [Not ready] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=5005122|copyright=n/a|newsworthy=Stale. [[WN:Gatwicking]] recomended.|verifiable=n/a|npov=n/a|style=n/a|reviewer=Lofi Gurl|comments=|time=23:07, 5 April 2026 (UTC)}} dhhqxxdiigmuefk3b7h57hl4svo9pl3 5005190 5005189 2026-04-05T23:08:36Z Lofi Gurl 2885970 /* Review of revision 5005122 [Not ready] */ 5005190 wikitext text/x-wiki == Headline question == I questioned the use of the term "crimes against humanity" in the headline and lead paragraph based on the following: :I would note that one of the cited sources, [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder this article from The Guardian], begins with the sentence, "A Finnish member of parliament has been found guilty by the country’s supreme court of inciting hatred after claiming that homosexuality was a 'developmental disorder', in a conviction that prompted criticism from far-right government ministers." That source doesn't even mention the term "crimes against humanity" at all. Another cited article from [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html The Independent] doesn't mention "crimes against humanity", either. I am also concerned that the use of the term "{{w|crimes against humanity}}" may be considered misleading as to the nature of the charges involved notwithstanding how the term is used in the Finnish Criminal Code which few English Wikinews readers may be familiar with. [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:16, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :Hello, Metropolitan90! [[User_talk:Metropolitan90#c-Justthefacts-20260328005600-Regarding your move of my article|As I also noted in a message to you on your user talk page]], the actual charge, the actual crime, and the actual conviction all fall under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} that concerns {{w|crimes against humanity}}. Moreover, there is a particular focus from several sources on the fact that Räsänen and Pohjola were convicted under the section of the Criminal Code of Finland that concerns crimes against humanity. If there are any ambiguities at all, all will be resolved when readers read the article itself. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 01:37, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ::Two of the cited sources ([https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case Christian Today], [https://adfinternational.org/news/breaking-landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-bible-tweet-case-tomorrow ADF International]) both say that Rasanen was convicted under a section titled “war crimes and crimes against humanity”, but I hope we're not going to change the headline to say that Rasanen and Pohjola were convicted of war crimes, too. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:57, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :::The section specifically concerns crimes against humanity and courts determine the severity of the crimes against humanity that were committed, which can range from simply dehumanising a minority to genocide and war crimes. The section of the criminal code of Finland is based on the expertise and scholarship of experts and scholars of crimes against humanity who hold that crimes against humanity begin relatively simple in the form of simply dehumanising minorities and continue escalating until eventually genocide and war crimes. This landmark ruling is precisely regarded as such because it considers that even the most simplest form, dehumanising a minority, does indeed constitute a crime against humanity in and of itself. --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 02:04, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ==Luther Foundation== Where does it say that the Luther Foundation was convicted, too? I just checked all of the cited sources and I couldn't find where any of them said that the Luther Foundation was also convicted. In fact, I only saw the phrase "Luther Foundation" in two of the articles ([https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder The Guardian] and [https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/ Christianity Today]). --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:03, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :Resolved. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:01, 28 March 2026 (UTC) == Minor revision requested == @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] The article's lead section is required to state when the focal point event took place (calendar day, day of the week, ect.). Can you add that in real quick? I would add it myself but I intend to review this article. Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:31, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :March 26, 2026 Alliance Defending Freedom International :@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:35, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::Claude AI helped me. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:35, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :::Can you add to the article that the ruling happened on Thursday so I don't have to? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:48, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thank you @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]]. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:03, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == Might want to read this == The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet. Alliance Defending Freedom International @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:37, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :https://claude.ai/chat/aa894899-c1f6-4236-964a-f90a3f25a23b Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:44, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::What is this? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:47, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :::The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet.I asked Claude and this is what was said about the headline. :::The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet. :::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], thanks. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:52, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :The actual charge, actual crime, and actual conviction are all under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} that concerns {{w|crimes against humanity}}. Any {{w|Artificial intelligence}}, {{w|chatbot}}, {{w|generative AI}}, {{w|large language model}} can be incorrect about the facts, which is why it is necessary to manually verify. Thank for your involvement nonetheless, @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]]. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:02, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == More headline problems == The headline now says, "Supreme Court of Finland makes crimes against the humanity convictions in landmark ruling". This doesn't sound like idiomatic English. The commonly used phrase is "crimes against humanity", not "crimes against the humanity", at least in this context (note that it no longer says "crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians"). Also, the phrase that a court "makes [name of crime] convictions" is awkward. I wouldn't write that a court "makes murder convictions", "makes kidnapping convictions", etc.; I would write that a court "convicts [someone] of murder", "convicts [someone] of kidnapping", etc. Or in this case, the Supreme Court of Finland convicts [the specified defendants] of crimes against humanity, although several versions of the headline has gone back and forth as to whether to refer to them by name, as politicians, or as Christians. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 02:57, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that it is too vague tom simply say that the Supreme Court of Finland made convictions. It should say against Christians, rather than by name or politicians, because there are four defendants, of whom two are individuals and of whom only one is politician and the other is a bishop, and the other two defendants are institutions, and the only thing that they have in common is that they are all Christian. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:34, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Way too many sources == I'm sorry but its just going to take me way too long to review this given that there are like ten sources used in the article and I don't even know if all of them are required to verify the info, I am very overwhelmed at this point, other editors have been moaning and bitching about the way I review articles, and the WMF is now officially closing Wikinews next month so there's no point in finishing this anyway. You can try and see if someone else can review this, but given the way things have been going here the last six months I would not bank on it, man. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 12:41, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I used a significant amount of sources just to be sure, because this is my very first ever Wikinews article! I really appreciate your edits and your work! Could you try and see this through to the end? I really put in a lot of work into this article and would really like to see it published! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 22:51, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]], come join my news wiki. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Yes, I will try. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:02, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5003204 [Not ready] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=5003204|copyright=n/a|newsworthy=pass|verifiable=n/a|npov=The author's reversion of my removal reintroduced neutrality errors into the artcile. The language is way to emotional and wordy for a WN article. |style=There were some really wordy parts with severe overlinking that I removed, but my edits were reverted, bringing the article further from publishable state. |reviewer=Lofi Gurl|comments=The project is fucking fried, man. I'm sorry we couldn't get this published. The announcement to close the project has really just gutted us all, and honestly we are in "wind down" mode now. There is nothing I can do. I'm sorry. |time=23:25, 1 April 2026 (UTC)}} == Note to reviewer(s) == Hello, I edited the text to remove one sentence that was vague and created bias ( is consistently ranked at or near the top of various indices of freedom and democracy, and is therefore broadly considered to be a model liberal democracy.) this sentence may be re-added if details is included. I re-ordered for inverted pyramid I re-worded for past tense I added clarifications where possible to avoid bias and make the article more neutral and I submitted it for review. Hope this is helpful. Newsworthiness is an issue and I hope it can be passed with exception as articles were not published for a while. Please also note I posted a section [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Proposal_to_cease_publishing_after_around_April_14 here]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:16, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5005122 [Not ready] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=5005122|copyright=n/a|newsworthy=Stale. [[WN:Gatwicking]] recomended. Can it be done? If this article is saved it could very well be one of the very last Wikinews articles ever, '''ever.'''|verifiable=n/a|npov=n/a|style=n/a|reviewer=Lofi Gurl|comments=|time=23:07, 5 April 2026 (UTC)}} 66bcr89s7bljixxdsrpdcuxtftdfz9k 5005206 5005190 2026-04-05T23:23:11Z Lofi Gurl 2885970 Lofi Gurl moved page [[Talk:Supreme Court of Finland convicts Christians of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians in a landmark ruling]] to [[Talk:Supreme Court of Finland makes crimes against humanity convictions in landmark ruling]] over redirect: Never should have been changed back. 5005190 wikitext text/x-wiki == Headline question == I questioned the use of the term "crimes against humanity" in the headline and lead paragraph based on the following: :I would note that one of the cited sources, [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder this article from The Guardian], begins with the sentence, "A Finnish member of parliament has been found guilty by the country’s supreme court of inciting hatred after claiming that homosexuality was a 'developmental disorder', in a conviction that prompted criticism from far-right government ministers." That source doesn't even mention the term "crimes against humanity" at all. Another cited article from [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html The Independent] doesn't mention "crimes against humanity", either. I am also concerned that the use of the term "{{w|crimes against humanity}}" may be considered misleading as to the nature of the charges involved notwithstanding how the term is used in the Finnish Criminal Code which few English Wikinews readers may be familiar with. [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:16, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :Hello, Metropolitan90! [[User_talk:Metropolitan90#c-Justthefacts-20260328005600-Regarding your move of my article|As I also noted in a message to you on your user talk page]], the actual charge, the actual crime, and the actual conviction all fall under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} that concerns {{w|crimes against humanity}}. Moreover, there is a particular focus from several sources on the fact that Räsänen and Pohjola were convicted under the section of the Criminal Code of Finland that concerns crimes against humanity. If there are any ambiguities at all, all will be resolved when readers read the article itself. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 01:37, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ::Two of the cited sources ([https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case Christian Today], [https://adfinternational.org/news/breaking-landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-bible-tweet-case-tomorrow ADF International]) both say that Rasanen was convicted under a section titled “war crimes and crimes against humanity”, but I hope we're not going to change the headline to say that Rasanen and Pohjola were convicted of war crimes, too. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:57, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :::The section specifically concerns crimes against humanity and courts determine the severity of the crimes against humanity that were committed, which can range from simply dehumanising a minority to genocide and war crimes. The section of the criminal code of Finland is based on the expertise and scholarship of experts and scholars of crimes against humanity who hold that crimes against humanity begin relatively simple in the form of simply dehumanising minorities and continue escalating until eventually genocide and war crimes. This landmark ruling is precisely regarded as such because it considers that even the most simplest form, dehumanising a minority, does indeed constitute a crime against humanity in and of itself. --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 02:04, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ==Luther Foundation== Where does it say that the Luther Foundation was convicted, too? I just checked all of the cited sources and I couldn't find where any of them said that the Luther Foundation was also convicted. In fact, I only saw the phrase "Luther Foundation" in two of the articles ([https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder The Guardian] and [https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/ Christianity Today]). --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:03, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :Resolved. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:01, 28 March 2026 (UTC) == Minor revision requested == @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] The article's lead section is required to state when the focal point event took place (calendar day, day of the week, ect.). Can you add that in real quick? I would add it myself but I intend to review this article. Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:31, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :March 26, 2026 Alliance Defending Freedom International :@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:35, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::Claude AI helped me. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:35, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :::Can you add to the article that the ruling happened on Thursday so I don't have to? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:48, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thank you @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]]. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:03, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == Might want to read this == The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet. Alliance Defending Freedom International @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:37, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :https://claude.ai/chat/aa894899-c1f6-4236-964a-f90a3f25a23b Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:44, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::What is this? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:47, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :::The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet.I asked Claude and this is what was said about the headline. :::The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet. :::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], thanks. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:52, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :The actual charge, actual crime, and actual conviction are all under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} that concerns {{w|crimes against humanity}}. Any {{w|Artificial intelligence}}, {{w|chatbot}}, {{w|generative AI}}, {{w|large language model}} can be incorrect about the facts, which is why it is necessary to manually verify. Thank for your involvement nonetheless, @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]]. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:02, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == More headline problems == The headline now says, "Supreme Court of Finland makes crimes against the humanity convictions in landmark ruling". This doesn't sound like idiomatic English. The commonly used phrase is "crimes against humanity", not "crimes against the humanity", at least in this context (note that it no longer says "crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians"). Also, the phrase that a court "makes [name of crime] convictions" is awkward. I wouldn't write that a court "makes murder convictions", "makes kidnapping convictions", etc.; I would write that a court "convicts [someone] of murder", "convicts [someone] of kidnapping", etc. Or in this case, the Supreme Court of Finland convicts [the specified defendants] of crimes against humanity, although several versions of the headline has gone back and forth as to whether to refer to them by name, as politicians, or as Christians. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 02:57, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that it is too vague tom simply say that the Supreme Court of Finland made convictions. It should say against Christians, rather than by name or politicians, because there are four defendants, of whom two are individuals and of whom only one is politician and the other is a bishop, and the other two defendants are institutions, and the only thing that they have in common is that they are all Christian. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:34, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Way too many sources == I'm sorry but its just going to take me way too long to review this given that there are like ten sources used in the article and I don't even know if all of them are required to verify the info, I am very overwhelmed at this point, other editors have been moaning and bitching about the way I review articles, and the WMF is now officially closing Wikinews next month so there's no point in finishing this anyway. You can try and see if someone else can review this, but given the way things have been going here the last six months I would not bank on it, man. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 12:41, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I used a significant amount of sources just to be sure, because this is my very first ever Wikinews article! I really appreciate your edits and your work! Could you try and see this through to the end? I really put in a lot of work into this article and would really like to see it published! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 22:51, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]], come join my news wiki. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Yes, I will try. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:02, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5003204 [Not ready] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=5003204|copyright=n/a|newsworthy=pass|verifiable=n/a|npov=The author's reversion of my removal reintroduced neutrality errors into the artcile. The language is way to emotional and wordy for a WN article. |style=There were some really wordy parts with severe overlinking that I removed, but my edits were reverted, bringing the article further from publishable state. |reviewer=Lofi Gurl|comments=The project is fucking fried, man. I'm sorry we couldn't get this published. The announcement to close the project has really just gutted us all, and honestly we are in "wind down" mode now. There is nothing I can do. I'm sorry. |time=23:25, 1 April 2026 (UTC)}} == Note to reviewer(s) == Hello, I edited the text to remove one sentence that was vague and created bias ( is consistently ranked at or near the top of various indices of freedom and democracy, and is therefore broadly considered to be a model liberal democracy.) this sentence may be re-added if details is included. I re-ordered for inverted pyramid I re-worded for past tense I added clarifications where possible to avoid bias and make the article more neutral and I submitted it for review. Hope this is helpful. Newsworthiness is an issue and I hope it can be passed with exception as articles were not published for a while. Please also note I posted a section [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Proposal_to_cease_publishing_after_around_April_14 here]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:16, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5005122 [Not ready] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=5005122|copyright=n/a|newsworthy=Stale. [[WN:Gatwicking]] recomended. Can it be done? If this article is saved it could very well be one of the very last Wikinews articles ever, '''ever.'''|verifiable=n/a|npov=n/a|style=n/a|reviewer=Lofi Gurl|comments=|time=23:07, 5 April 2026 (UTC)}} 66bcr89s7bljixxdsrpdcuxtftdfz9k 5005240 5005206 2026-04-06T01:33:14Z Gryllida 160590 Review of revision 5005210 5005240 wikitext text/x-wiki == Headline question == I questioned the use of the term "crimes against humanity" in the headline and lead paragraph based on the following: :I would note that one of the cited sources, [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder this article from The Guardian], begins with the sentence, "A Finnish member of parliament has been found guilty by the country’s supreme court of inciting hatred after claiming that homosexuality was a 'developmental disorder', in a conviction that prompted criticism from far-right government ministers." That source doesn't even mention the term "crimes against humanity" at all. Another cited article from [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html The Independent] doesn't mention "crimes against humanity", either. I am also concerned that the use of the term "{{w|crimes against humanity}}" may be considered misleading as to the nature of the charges involved notwithstanding how the term is used in the Finnish Criminal Code which few English Wikinews readers may be familiar with. [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:16, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :Hello, Metropolitan90! [[User_talk:Metropolitan90#c-Justthefacts-20260328005600-Regarding your move of my article|As I also noted in a message to you on your user talk page]], the actual charge, the actual crime, and the actual conviction all fall under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} that concerns {{w|crimes against humanity}}. Moreover, there is a particular focus from several sources on the fact that Räsänen and Pohjola were convicted under the section of the Criminal Code of Finland that concerns crimes against humanity. If there are any ambiguities at all, all will be resolved when readers read the article itself. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 01:37, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ::Two of the cited sources ([https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case Christian Today], [https://adfinternational.org/news/breaking-landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-bible-tweet-case-tomorrow ADF International]) both say that Rasanen was convicted under a section titled “war crimes and crimes against humanity”, but I hope we're not going to change the headline to say that Rasanen and Pohjola were convicted of war crimes, too. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:57, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :::The section specifically concerns crimes against humanity and courts determine the severity of the crimes against humanity that were committed, which can range from simply dehumanising a minority to genocide and war crimes. The section of the criminal code of Finland is based on the expertise and scholarship of experts and scholars of crimes against humanity who hold that crimes against humanity begin relatively simple in the form of simply dehumanising minorities and continue escalating until eventually genocide and war crimes. This landmark ruling is precisely regarded as such because it considers that even the most simplest form, dehumanising a minority, does indeed constitute a crime against humanity in and of itself. --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 02:04, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ==Luther Foundation== Where does it say that the Luther Foundation was convicted, too? I just checked all of the cited sources and I couldn't find where any of them said that the Luther Foundation was also convicted. In fact, I only saw the phrase "Luther Foundation" in two of the articles ([https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder The Guardian] and [https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/ Christianity Today]). --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:03, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :Resolved. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:01, 28 March 2026 (UTC) == Minor revision requested == @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] The article's lead section is required to state when the focal point event took place (calendar day, day of the week, ect.). Can you add that in real quick? I would add it myself but I intend to review this article. Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:31, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :March 26, 2026 Alliance Defending Freedom International :@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:35, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::Claude AI helped me. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:35, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :::Can you add to the article that the ruling happened on Thursday so I don't have to? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:48, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thank you @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]]. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:03, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == Might want to read this == The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet. Alliance Defending Freedom International @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:37, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :https://claude.ai/chat/aa894899-c1f6-4236-964a-f90a3f25a23b Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:44, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::What is this? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:47, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :::The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet.I asked Claude and this is what was said about the headline. :::The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet. :::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], thanks. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:52, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :The actual charge, actual crime, and actual conviction are all under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} that concerns {{w|crimes against humanity}}. Any {{w|Artificial intelligence}}, {{w|chatbot}}, {{w|generative AI}}, {{w|large language model}} can be incorrect about the facts, which is why it is necessary to manually verify. Thank for your involvement nonetheless, @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]]. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:02, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == More headline problems == The headline now says, "Supreme Court of Finland makes crimes against the humanity convictions in landmark ruling". This doesn't sound like idiomatic English. The commonly used phrase is "crimes against humanity", not "crimes against the humanity", at least in this context (note that it no longer says "crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians"). Also, the phrase that a court "makes [name of crime] convictions" is awkward. I wouldn't write that a court "makes murder convictions", "makes kidnapping convictions", etc.; I would write that a court "convicts [someone] of murder", "convicts [someone] of kidnapping", etc. Or in this case, the Supreme Court of Finland convicts [the specified defendants] of crimes against humanity, although several versions of the headline has gone back and forth as to whether to refer to them by name, as politicians, or as Christians. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 02:57, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that it is too vague tom simply say that the Supreme Court of Finland made convictions. It should say against Christians, rather than by name or politicians, because there are four defendants, of whom two are individuals and of whom only one is politician and the other is a bishop, and the other two defendants are institutions, and the only thing that they have in common is that they are all Christian. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:34, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Way too many sources == I'm sorry but its just going to take me way too long to review this given that there are like ten sources used in the article and I don't even know if all of them are required to verify the info, I am very overwhelmed at this point, other editors have been moaning and bitching about the way I review articles, and the WMF is now officially closing Wikinews next month so there's no point in finishing this anyway. You can try and see if someone else can review this, but given the way things have been going here the last six months I would not bank on it, man. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 12:41, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I used a significant amount of sources just to be sure, because this is my very first ever Wikinews article! I really appreciate your edits and your work! Could you try and see this through to the end? I really put in a lot of work into this article and would really like to see it published! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 22:51, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]], come join my news wiki. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Yes, I will try. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:02, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5003204 [Not ready] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=5003204|copyright=n/a|newsworthy=pass|verifiable=n/a|npov=The author's reversion of my removal reintroduced neutrality errors into the artcile. The language is way to emotional and wordy for a WN article. |style=There were some really wordy parts with severe overlinking that I removed, but my edits were reverted, bringing the article further from publishable state. |reviewer=Lofi Gurl|comments=The project is fucking fried, man. I'm sorry we couldn't get this published. The announcement to close the project has really just gutted us all, and honestly we are in "wind down" mode now. There is nothing I can do. I'm sorry. |time=23:25, 1 April 2026 (UTC)}} == Note to reviewer(s) == Hello, I edited the text to remove one sentence that was vague and created bias ( is consistently ranked at or near the top of various indices of freedom and democracy, and is therefore broadly considered to be a model liberal democracy.) this sentence may be re-added if details is included. I re-ordered for inverted pyramid I re-worded for past tense I added clarifications where possible to avoid bias and make the article more neutral and I submitted it for review. Hope this is helpful. Newsworthiness is an issue and I hope it can be passed with exception as articles were not published for a while. Please also note I posted a section [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Proposal_to_cease_publishing_after_around_April_14 here]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:16, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5005122 [Not ready] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=5005122|copyright=n/a|newsworthy=Stale. [[WN:Gatwicking]] recomended. Can it be done? If this article is saved it could very well be one of the very last Wikinews articles ever, '''ever.'''|verifiable=n/a|npov=n/a|style=n/a|reviewer=Lofi Gurl|comments=|time=23:07, 5 April 2026 (UTC)}} == Review of revision 5005210 [Passed] == {{Peer_reviewed | revid = 5005210 | copyright = pass | newsworthy = exception | verifiable = pass | npov = pass | style = pass | reviewer = Gryllida | comments = News is over a week old but I am publishing. The headline could be better but there is so much controversy about how to put it properly that I am content with the current revision. Overall as a piece of feedback, it is necessary to be more factual and as much as possible insert facts rather than qualitative characterizations. I believe this has substantially improved in the last few days as the article has been revised. Thank you. I have read the talk page and I believe the concerns there have been satisfactorily addressed in the recent edits and in the resulting current revision. Copyright check passed flagging only the quote(s) included in the text. I am recommending to add a sentence about expected consequence (fine, jail time) or if it is unknown then, when is this expected to be determined. If you could please make this change within 24 hours, then it could be sighted and be included in the report. | time = 01:33, April 6, 2026 (UTC) }} -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:33, 6 April 2026 (UTC) is2l7e5bzyusfgv7husefwjnnn169wb 5005388 5005240 2026-04-06T11:57:45Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* Review of revision 5005210 [Passed] */ reply ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5005388 wikitext text/x-wiki == Headline question == I questioned the use of the term "crimes against humanity" in the headline and lead paragraph based on the following: :I would note that one of the cited sources, [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder this article from The Guardian], begins with the sentence, "A Finnish member of parliament has been found guilty by the country’s supreme court of inciting hatred after claiming that homosexuality was a 'developmental disorder', in a conviction that prompted criticism from far-right government ministers." That source doesn't even mention the term "crimes against humanity" at all. Another cited article from [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html The Independent] doesn't mention "crimes against humanity", either. I am also concerned that the use of the term "{{w|crimes against humanity}}" may be considered misleading as to the nature of the charges involved notwithstanding how the term is used in the Finnish Criminal Code which few English Wikinews readers may be familiar with. [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:16, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :Hello, Metropolitan90! [[User_talk:Metropolitan90#c-Justthefacts-20260328005600-Regarding your move of my article|As I also noted in a message to you on your user talk page]], the actual charge, the actual crime, and the actual conviction all fall under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} that concerns {{w|crimes against humanity}}. Moreover, there is a particular focus from several sources on the fact that Räsänen and Pohjola were convicted under the section of the Criminal Code of Finland that concerns crimes against humanity. If there are any ambiguities at all, all will be resolved when readers read the article itself. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 01:37, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ::Two of the cited sources ([https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case Christian Today], [https://adfinternational.org/news/breaking-landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-bible-tweet-case-tomorrow ADF International]) both say that Rasanen was convicted under a section titled “war crimes and crimes against humanity”, but I hope we're not going to change the headline to say that Rasanen and Pohjola were convicted of war crimes, too. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:57, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :::The section specifically concerns crimes against humanity and courts determine the severity of the crimes against humanity that were committed, which can range from simply dehumanising a minority to genocide and war crimes. The section of the criminal code of Finland is based on the expertise and scholarship of experts and scholars of crimes against humanity who hold that crimes against humanity begin relatively simple in the form of simply dehumanising minorities and continue escalating until eventually genocide and war crimes. This landmark ruling is precisely regarded as such because it considers that even the most simplest form, dehumanising a minority, does indeed constitute a crime against humanity in and of itself. --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 02:04, 28 March 2026 (UTC) ==Luther Foundation== Where does it say that the Luther Foundation was convicted, too? I just checked all of the cited sources and I couldn't find where any of them said that the Luther Foundation was also convicted. In fact, I only saw the phrase "Luther Foundation" in two of the articles ([https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder The Guardian] and [https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/ Christianity Today]). --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:03, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :Resolved. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:01, 28 March 2026 (UTC) == Minor revision requested == @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] The article's lead section is required to state when the focal point event took place (calendar day, day of the week, ect.). Can you add that in real quick? I would add it myself but I intend to review this article. Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:31, 28 March 2026 (UTC) :March 26, 2026 Alliance Defending Freedom International :@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:35, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::Claude AI helped me. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:35, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :::Can you add to the article that the ruling happened on Thursday so I don't have to? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:48, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thank you @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]]. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:03, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == Might want to read this == The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet. Alliance Defending Freedom International @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:37, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :https://claude.ai/chat/aa894899-c1f6-4236-964a-f90a3f25a23b Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:44, 29 March 2026 (UTC) ::What is this? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:47, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :::The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet.I asked Claude and this is what was said about the headline. :::The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet. :::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], thanks. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:52, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :The actual charge, actual crime, and actual conviction are all under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} that concerns {{w|crimes against humanity}}. Any {{w|Artificial intelligence}}, {{w|chatbot}}, {{w|generative AI}}, {{w|large language model}} can be incorrect about the facts, which is why it is necessary to manually verify. Thank for your involvement nonetheless, @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]]. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:02, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == More headline problems == The headline now says, "Supreme Court of Finland makes crimes against the humanity convictions in landmark ruling". This doesn't sound like idiomatic English. The commonly used phrase is "crimes against humanity", not "crimes against the humanity", at least in this context (note that it no longer says "crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians"). Also, the phrase that a court "makes [name of crime] convictions" is awkward. I wouldn't write that a court "makes murder convictions", "makes kidnapping convictions", etc.; I would write that a court "convicts [someone] of murder", "convicts [someone] of kidnapping", etc. Or in this case, the Supreme Court of Finland convicts [the specified defendants] of crimes against humanity, although several versions of the headline has gone back and forth as to whether to refer to them by name, as politicians, or as Christians. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 02:57, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that it is too vague tom simply say that the Supreme Court of Finland made convictions. It should say against Christians, rather than by name or politicians, because there are four defendants, of whom two are individuals and of whom only one is politician and the other is a bishop, and the other two defendants are institutions, and the only thing that they have in common is that they are all Christian. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:34, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Way too many sources == I'm sorry but its just going to take me way too long to review this given that there are like ten sources used in the article and I don't even know if all of them are required to verify the info, I am very overwhelmed at this point, other editors have been moaning and bitching about the way I review articles, and the WMF is now officially closing Wikinews next month so there's no point in finishing this anyway. You can try and see if someone else can review this, but given the way things have been going here the last six months I would not bank on it, man. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 12:41, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I used a significant amount of sources just to be sure, because this is my very first ever Wikinews article! I really appreciate your edits and your work! Could you try and see this through to the end? I really put in a lot of work into this article and would really like to see it published! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 22:51, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]], come join my news wiki. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Yes, I will try. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:02, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5003204 [Not ready] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=5003204|copyright=n/a|newsworthy=pass|verifiable=n/a|npov=The author's reversion of my removal reintroduced neutrality errors into the artcile. The language is way to emotional and wordy for a WN article. |style=There were some really wordy parts with severe overlinking that I removed, but my edits were reverted, bringing the article further from publishable state. |reviewer=Lofi Gurl|comments=The project is fucking fried, man. I'm sorry we couldn't get this published. The announcement to close the project has really just gutted us all, and honestly we are in "wind down" mode now. There is nothing I can do. I'm sorry. |time=23:25, 1 April 2026 (UTC)}} == Note to reviewer(s) == Hello, I edited the text to remove one sentence that was vague and created bias ( is consistently ranked at or near the top of various indices of freedom and democracy, and is therefore broadly considered to be a model liberal democracy.) this sentence may be re-added if details is included. I re-ordered for inverted pyramid I re-worded for past tense I added clarifications where possible to avoid bias and make the article more neutral and I submitted it for review. Hope this is helpful. Newsworthiness is an issue and I hope it can be passed with exception as articles were not published for a while. Please also note I posted a section [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Proposal_to_cease_publishing_after_around_April_14 here]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:16, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5005122 [Not ready] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=5005122|copyright=n/a|newsworthy=Stale. [[WN:Gatwicking]] recomended. Can it be done? If this article is saved it could very well be one of the very last Wikinews articles ever, '''ever.'''|verifiable=n/a|npov=n/a|style=n/a|reviewer=Lofi Gurl|comments=|time=23:07, 5 April 2026 (UTC)}} == Review of revision 5005210 [Passed] == {{Peer_reviewed | revid = 5005210 | copyright = pass | newsworthy = exception | verifiable = pass | npov = pass | style = pass | reviewer = Gryllida | comments = News is over a week old but I am publishing. The headline could be better but there is so much controversy about how to put it properly that I am content with the current revision. Overall as a piece of feedback, it is necessary to be more factual and as much as possible insert facts rather than qualitative characterizations. I believe this has substantially improved in the last few days as the article has been revised. Thank you. I have read the talk page and I believe the concerns there have been satisfactorily addressed in the recent edits and in the resulting current revision. Copyright check passed flagging only the quote(s) included in the text. I am recommending to add a sentence about expected consequence (fine, jail time) or if it is unknown then, when is this expected to be determined. If you could please make this change within 24 hours, then it could be sighted and be included in the report. | time = 01:33, April 6, 2026 (UTC) }} -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:33, 6 April 2026 (UTC) : I find the publication of this article problematic. I agree with @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] above regarding the headline as well as our use of the term 'crimes against humanity.'<br> There is not adequate, independent support to state that anyone has been found "of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians." The available reporting does not support that characterization.<br> Reuters stated the conviction was for ''incitement'':<br> <blockquote>The court found Paivi Rasanen, a medical doctor and MP for the small Christian Democratic party since 1995, guilty of incitement against a group by claiming in ​a social media post in 2019 and on her website in 2020 ​that it was scientifically proven that homosexuality was a developmental disorder.</blockquote><br> Machine translation of the [https://korkeinoikeus.fi/fi/index/ennakkopaatokset/kko202627.html<br> Supreme Court's release] states the following:<br> <blockquote>A is charged with incitement against a group of people between November 4, 2019 and January 24, 2022 (count 1), for which he is sentenced to a 20-day fine.<br> B is charged with incitement against a group of people between November 4, 2019 and January 24, 2022 (count 2), for which he is sentenced to a 20-day fine.<br> The X Foundation is sentenced to a corporate fine of 5,000 euros.</blockquote><br> Both the reporting and the court’s own release describe the offense as incitement against a group. I do not see support for describing the conviction as 'crimes against humanity,' and that appears to be a mischaracterization of the ruling.<br> While one listed source uses that phrasing, it originates from Christian Institute. That phrasing appears in the headline, while the body of the article instead states: ''"This offence is listed under a chapter of criminal code entitled “war crimes and crimes against humanity”.'' This reflects a description of the structure of the criminal code rather than the charge or conviction itself, and does not support the wording used in the article.<br> Similarly, Christian Today is a perspective-driven publication and does not provide the level of independent, objective reporting needed to support such a claim.<br> Given that higher-quality, independent sources consistently describe the offense as incitement, I do not see a basis for retaining the current wording.<br> @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], as the publishing reviewer, what steps will be taken to correct this?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 11:57, 6 April 2026 (UTC) 9jrpotnuj3x6ic15yzwogf02ukgvdmy 4 3088290 5005124 5004342 2026-04-05T16:46:14Z Asked42 2864219 adding information about the early development of wikinews and quotations from the manifesto 5005124 wikitext text/x-wiki {{draft}} {{WikimediaMention}} On March 30, 2026, the [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation/Board of Trustees|Board of Trustees]] of the {{W|Wikimedia Foundation}} announced its final decision to close all language editions of the Wikinews project. Wikinews is a sister project of other Wikimedia initiatives, including {{w|Wikipedia}}, {{w|Wiktionary}}, and {{w|Wikimedia Commons}}, which support the dissemination of free knowledge and media. The future of Wikinews was raised for consideration in late 2025, followed by [[meta:Public consultation about Wikinews|a period of public consultation about Wikinews]]. After this process, the Board announced in March 2026 that the 31 active editions of Wikinews would be placed in read-only mode indefinitely. In the announcement message, trustee [[meta:User:Victoria|Victoria Doronina]] said, "We thank all contributors who have participated in Wikinews over the years and helped build a unique experiment in collaborative journalism within the Wikimedia movement, and we understand that some of them might be disappointed by this decision. To our regret, the project wasn’t able to fulfil its promise, and many of its functions were eclipsed by the notable news coverage in Wikipedias." Wikinews launched in November 2004. It was first proposed by an anonymous contributor in January 2003<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikinews/Archive&diff=prev&oldid=4306 --> and faced a community vote that ended 151 yea and 59 nay, leading to the first demo going live in October 2004.<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote --> The English-language Wikinews was formally created December&nbsp;2 of that year, with German following one day later.<!--Context of blogs, citizen journalism (e.g. Occupy, Indymedia, blogger's bill of rights)--> The project's early development followed a series of community discussions and milestones in late 2004 and early 2005. A [[meta:Wikinews/License straw poll|non-binding straw poll]] on content licensing began on October 26, 2004, alongside discussions on the project's scope and policies. The initial demo site, hosted at ''demo.wikinews.org'', was later moved to the English Wikinews domain on December 2, 2004. Following the launch of the English and German editions in December 2004, additional language editions were created in early 2005, including Dutch, French, Swedish, Spanish, Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, and Portuguese. The project also adopted a logo in February 2005 through a community voting process. According to the [[meta:Wikinews manifesto|project's manifesto]], "Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape." The manifesto further described, "We seek to promote the idea of the citizen journalist, because we believe that everyone can make a useful contribution to painting the big picture of what is happening in the world around us." <!-- Illustrative quote from the manifesto: We seek to create a free source of news, where the 10% of human beings (as of 2004) with internet access, and in the future certainly more of us, are invited to contribute reports about events large and small, either from direct experience, or summarized from elsewhere. Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape. --> <!--Expansion of editions, original reporting, experiments with spoken/print editions, press coverage (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Press_coverage), licensing changes, expansion of sr.wn and ru.wn, creation of Wikinewsie group, launch of WikiTribune and Infobitt, dpl breaking, task force review/vote--> <!--Get interviews with key Wikinewsies--> <!--https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/06/27/community-consultation-about-the-wikispore-and-wikinews/--> <!--Per talk: History Visualization of articles by Overview of past research Greatest hits (Some interviews and other facts from Wikinews and the broad range of featured and classic articles) Wikinews investigates... Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff; Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Wikinews interviews... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, Trischa Zorn, Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... Past projects or services Accreditation Interview series Education Photo essays; POTY and spinoffs--> ==External links== *{{source |url = https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/XOP5OXEYO2XLQJNGFJHCYOPJT5LPTF7P/ |title = &#91;Wikimedia-l&#93; Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews |author = Victoria Doronina |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = March 30, 2026 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews |title = Wikinews |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll |title = Wikinews/License straw poll |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = October 26, 2004 }} [[Category:Wikinews]] 9of8pumqwu7wxqvkj8ith9xf6w7zzg1 5005128 5005124 2026-04-05T16:57:57Z Asked42 2864219 5005128 wikitext text/x-wiki {{draft}} {{WikimediaMention}} [[File:Wikinews-logo.png|right|220px|thumb|Logo of Wikinews, adopted by the community through a [[meta:Wikinews logo contest voting|logo contest]] held in January–February 2005. It replaced the [[:File:Wikinews logo.png|beta version]] logo. ]] On March 30, 2026, the [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation/Board of Trustees|Board of Trustees]] of the {{W|Wikimedia Foundation}} announced its final decision to close all language editions of the Wikinews project. Wikinews is a sister project of other Wikimedia initiatives, including {{w|Wikipedia}}, {{w|Wiktionary}}, and {{w|Wikimedia Commons}}, which support the dissemination of free knowledge and media. The future of Wikinews was raised for consideration in late 2025, followed by [[meta:Public consultation about Wikinews|a period of public consultation about Wikinews]]. After this process, the Board announced in March 2026 that the 31 active editions of Wikinews would be placed in read-only mode indefinitely. In the announcement message, trustee [[meta:User:Victoria|Victoria Doronina]] said, "We thank all contributors who have participated in Wikinews over the years and helped build a unique experiment in collaborative journalism within the Wikimedia movement, and we understand that some of them might be disappointed by this decision. To our regret, the project wasn’t able to fulfil its promise, and many of its functions were eclipsed by the notable news coverage in Wikipedias." Wikinews launched in November 2004. It was first proposed by an anonymous contributor in January 2003<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikinews/Archive&diff=prev&oldid=4306 --> and faced a community vote that ended 151 yea and 59 nay, leading to the first demo going live in October 2004.<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote --> The English-language Wikinews was formally created December&nbsp;2 of that year, with German following one day later.<!--Context of blogs, citizen journalism (e.g. Occupy, Indymedia, blogger's bill of rights)--> The project's early development followed a series of community discussions and milestones in late 2004 and early 2005. A [[meta:Wikinews/License straw poll|non-binding straw poll]] on content licensing began on October 26, 2004, alongside discussions on the project's scope and policies. The initial demo site, hosted at ''demo.wikinews.org'', was later moved to the English Wikinews domain on December 2, 2004. Following the launch of the English and German editions in December 2004, additional language editions were created in early 2005, including Dutch, French, Swedish, Spanish, Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, and Portuguese. The project also adopted a logo in February 2005 through a community voting process. According to the [[meta:Wikinews manifesto|project's manifesto]], "Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape." The manifesto further described, "We seek to promote the idea of the citizen journalist, because we believe that everyone can make a useful contribution to painting the big picture of what is happening in the world around us." <!-- Illustrative quote from the manifesto: We seek to create a free source of news, where the 10% of human beings (as of 2004) with internet access, and in the future certainly more of us, are invited to contribute reports about events large and small, either from direct experience, or summarized from elsewhere. Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape. --> <!--Expansion of editions, original reporting, experiments with spoken/print editions, press coverage (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Press_coverage), licensing changes, expansion of sr.wn and ru.wn, creation of Wikinewsie group, launch of WikiTribune and Infobitt, dpl breaking, task force review/vote--> <!--Get interviews with key Wikinewsies--> <!--https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/06/27/community-consultation-about-the-wikispore-and-wikinews/--> <!--Per talk: History Visualization of articles by Overview of past research Greatest hits (Some interviews and other facts from Wikinews and the broad range of featured and classic articles) Wikinews investigates... Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff; Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Wikinews interviews... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, Trischa Zorn, Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... Past projects or services Accreditation Interview series Education Photo essays; POTY and spinoffs--> ==External links== *{{source |url = https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/XOP5OXEYO2XLQJNGFJHCYOPJT5LPTF7P/ |title = &#91;Wikimedia-l&#93; Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews |author = Victoria Doronina |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = March 30, 2026 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews |title = Wikinews |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll |title = Wikinews/License straw poll |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = October 26, 2004 }} [[Category:Wikinews]] 2hmgp5ja2k16kb14alde7v7t4j552zj 5005130 5005128 2026-04-05T17:01:55Z Asked42 2864219 5005130 wikitext text/x-wiki {{draft}} {{WikimediaMention}} [[File:Wikinews-logo.png|right|220px|thumb|Logo of Wikinews, adopted by the community through a [[meta:Wikinews logo contest voting|logo contest]] held in January–February 2005. It replaced the [[:File:Wikinews logo.png|beta version]] logo. ]] On March 30, 2026, the [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation/Board of Trustees|Board of Trustees]] of the {{W|Wikimedia Foundation}} announced its final decision to close all language editions of the Wikinews project. Wikinews is a sister project of other Wikimedia initiatives, including {{w|Wikipedia}}, {{w|Wiktionary}}, and {{w|Wikimedia Commons}}, which support the dissemination of free knowledge and media. The future of Wikinews was raised for consideration in late 2025, followed by [[meta:Public consultation about Wikinews|a period of public consultation about Wikinews]]. After this process, the Board announced in March 2026 that the 31 active editions of Wikinews would be placed in read-only mode indefinitely. In the announcement message, trustee [[meta:User:Victoria|Victoria Doronina]] said, "We thank all contributors who have participated in Wikinews over the years and helped build a unique experiment in collaborative journalism within the Wikimedia movement, and we understand that some of them might be disappointed by this decision. To our regret, the project wasn’t able to fulfil its promise, and many of its functions were eclipsed by the notable news coverage in Wikipedias." Wikinews launched in November 2004. It was first proposed by an anonymous contributor in January 2003<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikinews/Archive&diff=prev&oldid=4306 --> and faced a community vote that ended 151 yea and 59 nay, leading to the first demo going live in October 2004.<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote --> The English-language Wikinews was formally created December&nbsp;2 of that year, with German following one day later.<!--Context of blogs, citizen journalism (e.g. Occupy, Indymedia, blogger's bill of rights)--> The project's early development followed a series of community discussions and milestones in late 2004 and early 2005. A [[meta:Wikinews/License straw poll|non-binding straw poll]] on content licensing began on October 26, 2004, alongside discussions on the project's scope and policies. The initial demo site, hosted at ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20041117013229/http://demo.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page demo.wikinews.org]'', was later moved to the English Wikinews domain on December 2, 2004. Following the launch of the English and German editions in December 2004, additional language editions were created in early 2005, including Dutch, French, Swedish, Spanish, Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, and Portuguese. The project also adopted a logo in February 2005 through a community voting process. According to the [[meta:Wikinews manifesto|project's manifesto]], "Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape." The manifesto further described, "We seek to promote the idea of the citizen journalist, because we believe that everyone can make a useful contribution to painting the big picture of what is happening in the world around us." <!-- Illustrative quote from the manifesto: We seek to create a free source of news, where the 10% of human beings (as of 2004) with internet access, and in the future certainly more of us, are invited to contribute reports about events large and small, either from direct experience, or summarized from elsewhere. Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape. --> <!--Expansion of editions, original reporting, experiments with spoken/print editions, press coverage (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Press_coverage), licensing changes, expansion of sr.wn and ru.wn, creation of Wikinewsie group, launch of WikiTribune and Infobitt, dpl breaking, task force review/vote--> <!--Get interviews with key Wikinewsies--> <!--https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/06/27/community-consultation-about-the-wikispore-and-wikinews/--> <!--Per talk: History Visualization of articles by Overview of past research Greatest hits (Some interviews and other facts from Wikinews and the broad range of featured and classic articles) Wikinews investigates... Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff; Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Wikinews interviews... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, Trischa Zorn, Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... Past projects or services Accreditation Interview series Education Photo essays; POTY and spinoffs--> ==External links== *{{source |url = https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/XOP5OXEYO2XLQJNGFJHCYOPJT5LPTF7P/ |title = &#91;Wikimedia-l&#93; Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews |author = Victoria Doronina |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = March 30, 2026 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews |title = Wikinews |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll |title = Wikinews/License straw poll |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = October 26, 2004 }} [[Category:Wikinews]] izsmotjgwxcmcw2m95zsd133xzb7231 5005357 5005130 2026-04-06T09:15:05Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Michael.C.Wright moved page [[Wikinews closes after 21 years]] to [[Wikinews:Story preparation/Wikinews closes after 21 years]]: Prepared stories should not exist in mainspace. 5005130 wikitext text/x-wiki {{draft}} {{WikimediaMention}} [[File:Wikinews-logo.png|right|220px|thumb|Logo of Wikinews, adopted by the community through a [[meta:Wikinews logo contest voting|logo contest]] held in January–February 2005. It replaced the [[:File:Wikinews logo.png|beta version]] logo. ]] On March 30, 2026, the [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation/Board of Trustees|Board of Trustees]] of the {{W|Wikimedia Foundation}} announced its final decision to close all language editions of the Wikinews project. Wikinews is a sister project of other Wikimedia initiatives, including {{w|Wikipedia}}, {{w|Wiktionary}}, and {{w|Wikimedia Commons}}, which support the dissemination of free knowledge and media. The future of Wikinews was raised for consideration in late 2025, followed by [[meta:Public consultation about Wikinews|a period of public consultation about Wikinews]]. After this process, the Board announced in March 2026 that the 31 active editions of Wikinews would be placed in read-only mode indefinitely. In the announcement message, trustee [[meta:User:Victoria|Victoria Doronina]] said, "We thank all contributors who have participated in Wikinews over the years and helped build a unique experiment in collaborative journalism within the Wikimedia movement, and we understand that some of them might be disappointed by this decision. To our regret, the project wasn’t able to fulfil its promise, and many of its functions were eclipsed by the notable news coverage in Wikipedias." Wikinews launched in November 2004. It was first proposed by an anonymous contributor in January 2003<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikinews/Archive&diff=prev&oldid=4306 --> and faced a community vote that ended 151 yea and 59 nay, leading to the first demo going live in October 2004.<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote --> The English-language Wikinews was formally created December&nbsp;2 of that year, with German following one day later.<!--Context of blogs, citizen journalism (e.g. Occupy, Indymedia, blogger's bill of rights)--> The project's early development followed a series of community discussions and milestones in late 2004 and early 2005. A [[meta:Wikinews/License straw poll|non-binding straw poll]] on content licensing began on October 26, 2004, alongside discussions on the project's scope and policies. The initial demo site, hosted at ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20041117013229/http://demo.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page demo.wikinews.org]'', was later moved to the English Wikinews domain on December 2, 2004. Following the launch of the English and German editions in December 2004, additional language editions were created in early 2005, including Dutch, French, Swedish, Spanish, Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, and Portuguese. The project also adopted a logo in February 2005 through a community voting process. According to the [[meta:Wikinews manifesto|project's manifesto]], "Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape." The manifesto further described, "We seek to promote the idea of the citizen journalist, because we believe that everyone can make a useful contribution to painting the big picture of what is happening in the world around us." <!-- Illustrative quote from the manifesto: We seek to create a free source of news, where the 10% of human beings (as of 2004) with internet access, and in the future certainly more of us, are invited to contribute reports about events large and small, either from direct experience, or summarized from elsewhere. Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape. --> <!--Expansion of editions, original reporting, experiments with spoken/print editions, press coverage (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Press_coverage), licensing changes, expansion of sr.wn and ru.wn, creation of Wikinewsie group, launch of WikiTribune and Infobitt, dpl breaking, task force review/vote--> <!--Get interviews with key Wikinewsies--> <!--https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/06/27/community-consultation-about-the-wikispore-and-wikinews/--> <!--Per talk: History Visualization of articles by Overview of past research Greatest hits (Some interviews and other facts from Wikinews and the broad range of featured and classic articles) Wikinews investigates... Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff; Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Wikinews interviews... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, Trischa Zorn, Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... Past projects or services Accreditation Interview series Education Photo essays; POTY and spinoffs--> ==External links== *{{source |url = https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/XOP5OXEYO2XLQJNGFJHCYOPJT5LPTF7P/ |title = &#91;Wikimedia-l&#93; Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews |author = Victoria Doronina |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = March 30, 2026 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews |title = Wikinews |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll |title = Wikinews/License straw poll |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = October 26, 2004 }} [[Category:Wikinews]] izsmotjgwxcmcw2m95zsd133xzb7231 5005361 5005357 2026-04-06T09:15:57Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 draft → prepare 5005361 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Prepare}} {{WikimediaMention}} [[File:Wikinews-logo.png|right|220px|thumb|Logo of Wikinews, adopted by the community through a [[meta:Wikinews logo contest voting|logo contest]] held in January–February 2005. It replaced the [[:File:Wikinews logo.png|beta version]] logo. ]] On March 30, 2026, the [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation/Board of Trustees|Board of Trustees]] of the {{W|Wikimedia Foundation}} announced its final decision to close all language editions of the Wikinews project. Wikinews is a sister project of other Wikimedia initiatives, including {{w|Wikipedia}}, {{w|Wiktionary}}, and {{w|Wikimedia Commons}}, which support the dissemination of free knowledge and media. The future of Wikinews was raised for consideration in late 2025, followed by [[meta:Public consultation about Wikinews|a period of public consultation about Wikinews]]. After this process, the Board announced in March 2026 that the 31 active editions of Wikinews would be placed in read-only mode indefinitely. In the announcement message, trustee [[meta:User:Victoria|Victoria Doronina]] said, "We thank all contributors who have participated in Wikinews over the years and helped build a unique experiment in collaborative journalism within the Wikimedia movement, and we understand that some of them might be disappointed by this decision. To our regret, the project wasn’t able to fulfil its promise, and many of its functions were eclipsed by the notable news coverage in Wikipedias." Wikinews launched in November 2004. It was first proposed by an anonymous contributor in January 2003<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikinews/Archive&diff=prev&oldid=4306 --> and faced a community vote that ended 151 yea and 59 nay, leading to the first demo going live in October 2004.<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote --> The English-language Wikinews was formally created December&nbsp;2 of that year, with German following one day later.<!--Context of blogs, citizen journalism (e.g. Occupy, Indymedia, blogger's bill of rights)--> The project's early development followed a series of community discussions and milestones in late 2004 and early 2005. A [[meta:Wikinews/License straw poll|non-binding straw poll]] on content licensing began on October 26, 2004, alongside discussions on the project's scope and policies. The initial demo site, hosted at ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20041117013229/http://demo.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page demo.wikinews.org]'', was later moved to the English Wikinews domain on December 2, 2004. Following the launch of the English and German editions in December 2004, additional language editions were created in early 2005, including Dutch, French, Swedish, Spanish, Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, and Portuguese. The project also adopted a logo in February 2005 through a community voting process. According to the [[meta:Wikinews manifesto|project's manifesto]], "Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape." The manifesto further described, "We seek to promote the idea of the citizen journalist, because we believe that everyone can make a useful contribution to painting the big picture of what is happening in the world around us." <!-- Illustrative quote from the manifesto: We seek to create a free source of news, where the 10% of human beings (as of 2004) with internet access, and in the future certainly more of us, are invited to contribute reports about events large and small, either from direct experience, or summarized from elsewhere. Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape. --> <!--Expansion of editions, original reporting, experiments with spoken/print editions, press coverage (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Press_coverage), licensing changes, expansion of sr.wn and ru.wn, creation of Wikinewsie group, launch of WikiTribune and Infobitt, dpl breaking, task force review/vote--> <!--Get interviews with key Wikinewsies--> <!--https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/06/27/community-consultation-about-the-wikispore-and-wikinews/--> <!--Per talk: History Visualization of articles by Overview of past research Greatest hits (Some interviews and other facts from Wikinews and the broad range of featured and classic articles) Wikinews investigates... Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff; Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Wikinews interviews... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, Trischa Zorn, Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... Past projects or services Accreditation Interview series Education Photo essays; POTY and spinoffs--> ==External links== *{{source |url = https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/XOP5OXEYO2XLQJNGFJHCYOPJT5LPTF7P/ |title = &#91;Wikimedia-l&#93; Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews |author = Victoria Doronina |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = March 30, 2026 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews |title = Wikinews |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll |title = Wikinews/License straw poll |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = October 26, 2004 }} [[Category:Wikinews]] tm78983ttn0ds6mojgmhzsrbcs11ec3 5005362 5005361 2026-04-06T09:18:24Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 try to properly detect when it is correctly a subpage 5005362 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly>__NOINDEX__</includeonly> {{xambox |type=content |text='''This article is a ''prepared story''. It describes an event that is scheduled or expected but has not yet occurred.'''<br> <small>{{#if:{{{event|}}}|{{prepare/event|{{{event}}}}}}}If this article is ready to be developed, [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit}} change] the <nowiki>{{prepare}}</nowiki> tag to <nowiki>{{develop}}</nowiki>. <br> {{#if:{{{date|}}}|{{prepare/date|{{{date}}}}}}} Prepared articles ''may'' (tempered by common sense, please) be subject to deletion if unsourced (with [[WN:PD#Criteria|10 days' notice]]) or if unused and expired ([[WN:SD#A-oldprep|after 5 days]]).</small>{{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACENUMBER}}|0 | <!-- In mainspace --> {{#if: {{#ifeq:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Story preparation |{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikinews:Story preparation||1}} | }} | <!-- Proper subpage, but in mainspace --> <br><span style="color:red;">This prepared story must be moved out of article mainspace.</span> # Use the Move link. # In the namespace dropdown, select '''Wikinews'''. # Copy and paste the following as the new page name: :'''Story preparation/{{PAGENAME}}''' | <!-- Not a proper subpage, in mainspace --> <br><span style="color:red;">This prepared story must be moved out of article mainspace and placed under Story preparation.</span> # Use the Move link. # In the namespace dropdown, select '''Wikinews'''. # Copy and paste the following as the new page name: :'''Story preparation/{{PAGENAME}}''' }} | <!-- Not in mainspace --> {{#if: {{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|Wikinews |{{#ifeq:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Story preparation |{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikinews:Story preparation||1}} | }} | }} | <!-- OK: proper Story preparation subpage --> | <!-- Not a proper subpage --> <br><span style="color:red;">This page is not a Story preparation subpage, as recommended by [[Wikinews:Story preparation]].</span> # Use the Move link. # In the namespace dropdown, select '''Wikinews'''. # Copy and paste the following as the new page name: :'''Story preparation/{{PAGENAME}}''' }} }} }} <includeonly>{{#switch: 1 |{{#if:{{{nocat|}}}|1|0}} = |{{#ifeq:{{#titleparts:{{PAGENAME}}|1}}|Story preparation|1|0}} = [[Category:Prepared stories|{{#titleparts:{{PAGENAME}}||2}}]]__NOINDEX__ |#default = [[Category:Prepared stories]]__NOINDEX__ }}<!-- __NOINDEX__ does not work in main ns--> </includeonly> <noinclude>{{documentation}}</noinclude> 4x57nqtwx1uv78qa8y5w5lxppf6mpg0 5005363 5005362 2026-04-06T09:18:52Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Undid revision [[Special:Diff/5005362|5005362]] by [[Special:Contributions/Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|talk]]) wrong page 5005363 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Prepare}} {{WikimediaMention}} [[File:Wikinews-logo.png|right|220px|thumb|Logo of Wikinews, adopted by the community through a [[meta:Wikinews logo contest voting|logo contest]] held in January–February 2005. It replaced the [[:File:Wikinews logo.png|beta version]] logo. ]] On March 30, 2026, the [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation/Board of Trustees|Board of Trustees]] of the {{W|Wikimedia Foundation}} announced its final decision to close all language editions of the Wikinews project. Wikinews is a sister project of other Wikimedia initiatives, including {{w|Wikipedia}}, {{w|Wiktionary}}, and {{w|Wikimedia Commons}}, which support the dissemination of free knowledge and media. The future of Wikinews was raised for consideration in late 2025, followed by [[meta:Public consultation about Wikinews|a period of public consultation about Wikinews]]. After this process, the Board announced in March 2026 that the 31 active editions of Wikinews would be placed in read-only mode indefinitely. In the announcement message, trustee [[meta:User:Victoria|Victoria Doronina]] said, "We thank all contributors who have participated in Wikinews over the years and helped build a unique experiment in collaborative journalism within the Wikimedia movement, and we understand that some of them might be disappointed by this decision. To our regret, the project wasn’t able to fulfil its promise, and many of its functions were eclipsed by the notable news coverage in Wikipedias." Wikinews launched in November 2004. It was first proposed by an anonymous contributor in January 2003<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikinews/Archive&diff=prev&oldid=4306 --> and faced a community vote that ended 151 yea and 59 nay, leading to the first demo going live in October 2004.<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote --> The English-language Wikinews was formally created December&nbsp;2 of that year, with German following one day later.<!--Context of blogs, citizen journalism (e.g. Occupy, Indymedia, blogger's bill of rights)--> The project's early development followed a series of community discussions and milestones in late 2004 and early 2005. A [[meta:Wikinews/License straw poll|non-binding straw poll]] on content licensing began on October 26, 2004, alongside discussions on the project's scope and policies. The initial demo site, hosted at ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20041117013229/http://demo.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page demo.wikinews.org]'', was later moved to the English Wikinews domain on December 2, 2004. Following the launch of the English and German editions in December 2004, additional language editions were created in early 2005, including Dutch, French, Swedish, Spanish, Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, and Portuguese. The project also adopted a logo in February 2005 through a community voting process. According to the [[meta:Wikinews manifesto|project's manifesto]], "Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape." The manifesto further described, "We seek to promote the idea of the citizen journalist, because we believe that everyone can make a useful contribution to painting the big picture of what is happening in the world around us." <!-- Illustrative quote from the manifesto: We seek to create a free source of news, where the 10% of human beings (as of 2004) with internet access, and in the future certainly more of us, are invited to contribute reports about events large and small, either from direct experience, or summarized from elsewhere. Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape. --> <!--Expansion of editions, original reporting, experiments with spoken/print editions, press coverage (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Press_coverage), licensing changes, expansion of sr.wn and ru.wn, creation of Wikinewsie group, launch of WikiTribune and Infobitt, dpl breaking, task force review/vote--> <!--Get interviews with key Wikinewsies--> <!--https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/06/27/community-consultation-about-the-wikispore-and-wikinews/--> <!--Per talk: History Visualization of articles by Overview of past research Greatest hits (Some interviews and other facts from Wikinews and the broad range of featured and classic articles) Wikinews investigates... Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff; Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Wikinews interviews... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, Trischa Zorn, Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... Past projects or services Accreditation Interview series Education Photo essays; POTY and spinoffs--> ==External links== *{{source |url = https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/XOP5OXEYO2XLQJNGFJHCYOPJT5LPTF7P/ |title = &#91;Wikimedia-l&#93; Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews |author = Victoria Doronina |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = March 30, 2026 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews |title = Wikinews |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll |title = Wikinews/License straw poll |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = October 26, 2004 }} [[Category:Wikinews]] tm78983ttn0ds6mojgmhzsrbcs11ec3 5 3088310 5005161 5004269 2026-04-05T20:29:20Z Metropolitan90 314212 looking for sources 5005161 wikitext text/x-wiki == This article is to be posted later == Please don't publish this article before 3 May 2026. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 03:35, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :I would like to politely request that the last edits on this site (for now) are posting and reviewing this article. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:38, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::I hope our reviewers will be able to handle this. Pinging @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], and @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]. I assume we could make some exceptions for this, given that it may be one of our last published articles. whatever those exceptions may be. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 06:42, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ::: I don't see why I wouldn't be available for this. I'm on a Wikibreak until April 9, after which I expect to return to my normal availability.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 07:08, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :::I will keep an eye, so that I can point out problems immediately, and review shouldn't take much time. Let's keep the publishing time as May 3, 00:00 UTC.<br> [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 09:42, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] "last edits on this site for now" -- Do you mean no more edits unrelated to editing, reviewing and publishing this article on Wikinews whatsoever? Or no more edits after its publication on May 4? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:38, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :::After publication. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:16, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ::::Okay, thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:37, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Possible material == A fine idea. In addition to a summary of what is happening (on en, in other languages, with migration), would it be appropriate to include a very abridged history of Wikinews that covers past highlights, or links out to a "History of" page here? For instance: '''History''' : Visualization of articles by [[Category:News articles by section|section]] : Overview of past [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=2007&q=wikinews&btnG= research] '''Greatest hits''' (Some interviews and other facts from [[w:Wikinews|Wikinews]] and the broad range of featured and classic articles) : ''Wikinews investigates''... [[Wikinews investigates Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff members|Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff]]; [[Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Council to review clause affecting live music scene|Petition pressures City of Edinburgh]] : ''Wikinews interviews''... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, [[Wikinews_interviews_winner_of_55_Paralympic_medals,_Trischa_Zorn|Trischa Zorn]], Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... '''Past projects or services''' : Accreditation : Interview series : [[Wikinews:Education|Education]] : [[Wikinews:Writing_a_Photo_essay|Photo essays]]; POTY and [[Wikinews:Polish_Wikinews_Press_Photo_2011|spinoffs]] [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 01:05, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ==Sources== I am hoping that some news source outside the Wikimedia organiation will take notice of the closing of Wikinews (which could be cited as a source for this article). So far I have not found any coverage. For contrast, when the Internet Movie Database shut down its message boards, that did receive news coverage ([https://www.the-independent.com/arts-entertainment/films/news/imdb-message-boards-shut-down-why-films-a7562701.html The Independent], [https://www.pastemagazine.com/movies/imdb/rip-imdb-message-boards Paste Magazine]). --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:29, 5 April 2026 (UTC) knvj67r2f6pgvq90dsjnzhv42rdt4lc 5005184 5005161 2026-04-05T22:59:12Z Tduk 411937 /* Sources */ Reply 5005184 wikitext text/x-wiki == This article is to be posted later == Please don't publish this article before 3 May 2026. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 03:35, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :I would like to politely request that the last edits on this site (for now) are posting and reviewing this article. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:38, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::I hope our reviewers will be able to handle this. Pinging @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], and @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]. I assume we could make some exceptions for this, given that it may be one of our last published articles. whatever those exceptions may be. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 06:42, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ::: I don't see why I wouldn't be available for this. I'm on a Wikibreak until April 9, after which I expect to return to my normal availability.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 07:08, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :::I will keep an eye, so that I can point out problems immediately, and review shouldn't take much time. Let's keep the publishing time as May 3, 00:00 UTC.<br> [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 09:42, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] "last edits on this site for now" -- Do you mean no more edits unrelated to editing, reviewing and publishing this article on Wikinews whatsoever? Or no more edits after its publication on May 4? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:38, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :::After publication. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:16, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ::::Okay, thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:37, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Possible material == A fine idea. In addition to a summary of what is happening (on en, in other languages, with migration), would it be appropriate to include a very abridged history of Wikinews that covers past highlights, or links out to a "History of" page here? For instance: '''History''' : Visualization of articles by [[Category:News articles by section|section]] : Overview of past [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=2007&q=wikinews&btnG= research] '''Greatest hits''' (Some interviews and other facts from [[w:Wikinews|Wikinews]] and the broad range of featured and classic articles) : ''Wikinews investigates''... [[Wikinews investigates Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff members|Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff]]; [[Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Council to review clause affecting live music scene|Petition pressures City of Edinburgh]] : ''Wikinews interviews''... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, [[Wikinews_interviews_winner_of_55_Paralympic_medals,_Trischa_Zorn|Trischa Zorn]], Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... '''Past projects or services''' : Accreditation : Interview series : [[Wikinews:Education|Education]] : [[Wikinews:Writing_a_Photo_essay|Photo essays]]; POTY and [[Wikinews:Polish_Wikinews_Press_Photo_2011|spinoffs]] [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 01:05, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ==Sources== I am hoping that some news source outside the Wikimedia organiation will take notice of the closing of Wikinews (which could be cited as a source for this article). So far I have not found any coverage. For contrast, when the Internet Movie Database shut down its message boards, that did receive news coverage ([https://www.the-independent.com/arts-entertainment/films/news/imdb-message-boards-shut-down-why-films-a7562701.html The Independent], [https://www.pastemagazine.com/movies/imdb/rip-imdb-message-boards Paste Magazine]). --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:29, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :I did find [https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia/comments/1s7ujpr/all_wikinews_projects_will_be_closed_on_may_4/] this which is unhelpful but interesting.. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 22:59, 5 April 2026 (UTC) q0abp8in92a2jhg7u4m4hc33hou1hhz 5005211 5005184 2026-04-05T23:29:51Z Koavf 5879 /* Sources */ Reply 5005211 wikitext text/x-wiki == This article is to be posted later == Please don't publish this article before 3 May 2026. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 03:35, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :I would like to politely request that the last edits on this site (for now) are posting and reviewing this article. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:38, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::I hope our reviewers will be able to handle this. Pinging @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], and @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]. I assume we could make some exceptions for this, given that it may be one of our last published articles. whatever those exceptions may be. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 06:42, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ::: I don't see why I wouldn't be available for this. I'm on a Wikibreak until April 9, after which I expect to return to my normal availability.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 07:08, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :::I will keep an eye, so that I can point out problems immediately, and review shouldn't take much time. Let's keep the publishing time as May 3, 00:00 UTC.<br> [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 09:42, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] "last edits on this site for now" -- Do you mean no more edits unrelated to editing, reviewing and publishing this article on Wikinews whatsoever? Or no more edits after its publication on May 4? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:38, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :::After publication. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:16, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ::::Okay, thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:37, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Possible material == A fine idea. In addition to a summary of what is happening (on en, in other languages, with migration), would it be appropriate to include a very abridged history of Wikinews that covers past highlights, or links out to a "History of" page here? For instance: '''History''' : Visualization of articles by [[Category:News articles by section|section]] : Overview of past [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=2007&q=wikinews&btnG= research] '''Greatest hits''' (Some interviews and other facts from [[w:Wikinews|Wikinews]] and the broad range of featured and classic articles) : ''Wikinews investigates''... [[Wikinews investigates Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff members|Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff]]; [[Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Council to review clause affecting live music scene|Petition pressures City of Edinburgh]] : ''Wikinews interviews''... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, [[Wikinews_interviews_winner_of_55_Paralympic_medals,_Trischa_Zorn|Trischa Zorn]], Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... '''Past projects or services''' : Accreditation : Interview series : [[Wikinews:Education|Education]] : [[Wikinews:Writing_a_Photo_essay|Photo essays]]; POTY and [[Wikinews:Polish_Wikinews_Press_Photo_2011|spinoffs]] [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 01:05, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ==Sources== I am hoping that some news source outside the Wikimedia organiation will take notice of the closing of Wikinews (which could be cited as a source for this article). So far I have not found any coverage. For contrast, when the Internet Movie Database shut down its message boards, that did receive news coverage ([https://www.the-independent.com/arts-entertainment/films/news/imdb-message-boards-shut-down-why-films-a7562701.html The Independent], [https://www.pastemagazine.com/movies/imdb/rip-imdb-message-boards Paste Magazine]). --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:29, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :I did find [https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia/comments/1s7ujpr/all_wikinews_projects_will_be_closed_on_may_4/] this which is unhelpful but interesting.. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 22:59, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :All I can find is [https://thedesk.net/2025/07/wikimedia-foundation-closing-wikinews/ this piece from The Desk] on the earlier closure proposal, which is a site I'd never heard of before, but [https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/wikimedia-foundation-considers-closing-wikinews/ar-AA1Ir0A0 MSN seems to think it's worth reproducing]. Otherwise, it's the occasional message board. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 23:29, 5 April 2026 (UTC) pe27lkoql8y6855fuk5ghj06uij9n3b 5005359 5005211 2026-04-06T09:15:05Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Michael.C.Wright moved page [[Talk:Wikinews closes after 21 years]] to [[Wikinews talk:Story preparation/Wikinews closes after 21 years]]: Prepared stories should not exist in mainspace. 5005211 wikitext text/x-wiki == This article is to be posted later == Please don't publish this article before 3 May 2026. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 03:35, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :I would like to politely request that the last edits on this site (for now) are posting and reviewing this article. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:38, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::I hope our reviewers will be able to handle this. Pinging @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], and @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]. I assume we could make some exceptions for this, given that it may be one of our last published articles. whatever those exceptions may be. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 06:42, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ::: I don't see why I wouldn't be available for this. I'm on a Wikibreak until April 9, after which I expect to return to my normal availability.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 07:08, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :::I will keep an eye, so that I can point out problems immediately, and review shouldn't take much time. Let's keep the publishing time as May 3, 00:00 UTC.<br> [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 09:42, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] "last edits on this site for now" -- Do you mean no more edits unrelated to editing, reviewing and publishing this article on Wikinews whatsoever? Or no more edits after its publication on May 4? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:38, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :::After publication. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:16, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ::::Okay, thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:37, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Possible material == A fine idea. In addition to a summary of what is happening (on en, in other languages, with migration), would it be appropriate to include a very abridged history of Wikinews that covers past highlights, or links out to a "History of" page here? For instance: '''History''' : Visualization of articles by [[Category:News articles by section|section]] : Overview of past [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=2007&q=wikinews&btnG= research] '''Greatest hits''' (Some interviews and other facts from [[w:Wikinews|Wikinews]] and the broad range of featured and classic articles) : ''Wikinews investigates''... [[Wikinews investigates Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff members|Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff]]; [[Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Council to review clause affecting live music scene|Petition pressures City of Edinburgh]] : ''Wikinews interviews''... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, [[Wikinews_interviews_winner_of_55_Paralympic_medals,_Trischa_Zorn|Trischa Zorn]], Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... '''Past projects or services''' : Accreditation : Interview series : [[Wikinews:Education|Education]] : [[Wikinews:Writing_a_Photo_essay|Photo essays]]; POTY and [[Wikinews:Polish_Wikinews_Press_Photo_2011|spinoffs]] [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 01:05, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ==Sources== I am hoping that some news source outside the Wikimedia organiation will take notice of the closing of Wikinews (which could be cited as a source for this article). So far I have not found any coverage. For contrast, when the Internet Movie Database shut down its message boards, that did receive news coverage ([https://www.the-independent.com/arts-entertainment/films/news/imdb-message-boards-shut-down-why-films-a7562701.html The Independent], [https://www.pastemagazine.com/movies/imdb/rip-imdb-message-boards Paste Magazine]). --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:29, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :I did find [https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia/comments/1s7ujpr/all_wikinews_projects_will_be_closed_on_may_4/] this which is unhelpful but interesting.. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 22:59, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :All I can find is [https://thedesk.net/2025/07/wikimedia-foundation-closing-wikinews/ this piece from The Desk] on the earlier closure proposal, which is a site I'd never heard of before, but [https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/wikimedia-foundation-considers-closing-wikinews/ar-AA1Ir0A0 MSN seems to think it's worth reproducing]. Otherwise, it's the occasional message board. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 23:29, 5 April 2026 (UTC) pe27lkoql8y6855fuk5ghj06uij9n3b 4 3088620 5005208 5004194 2026-04-05T23:26:01Z Koavf 5879 added [[Category:Wikinews]] using [[Help:Gadget-HotCat|HotCat]] 5005208 wikitext text/x-wiki Hello, and welcome. You are probably visiting this page from the sitenotices. Yes, it is true — [[Wikinews closes after 21 years|Wikinews has been closed after 21 years]]. On this page you will find information about how and when the closure process took place, along with other details related to the closing of Wikinews. This page is meant to serve as a historical documentation page. == Timeline == * '''May-June 2025:''' Wikinews communities were notified by the [[meta:Language Committee|Language Committee]] that no new language editions of Wikinews would be created from the Incubator. * This was followed by a clarification from the [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|Sister Projects Task Force]] (SPTF), which had been given the task of conducting a public consultation about Wikinews and submitting their final analysis to the Board of Trustees. * '''Around June 2, 2025:''' A [[meta:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force#Bengali wikinews|clarification was issued]] that the consideration of closing down the Wikinews project was being actively planned. * '''Late June 2025:''' A [[meta:Talk:Public consultation about Wikinews|public consultation was opened]] to gather opinions and comments from the wider Wikimedia community. The SPTF also submitted their [[meta:Public_consultation_about_Wikinews|public consultation report]], which included their analysis of Wikinews. * '''August 2025:''' The public consultation on Wikinews concluded. * '''Late November 2025:''' The SPTF [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force/Results of the consultation about Wikispore and Wikinews|released the results of the public consultation]] along with their formal recommendation to the Board of Trustees. * '''March 30, 2026:''' The Board of Trustees [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard&oldid=30335338#Board_of_Trustees_Approves_Closure_of_Wikinews made their final decision to close Wikinews]. All Wikinews language editions will be read-only from May 4, 2026. == Future of Wikinews == Unclear as of April 2026; see [[WN:migration]] for more. [[Category:Wikinews]] a8r3ilsiqbgxmcrc7q5qk0pdkvlwk4c 5005209 5005208 2026-04-05T23:26:21Z Koavf 5879 /* Timeline */ 5005209 wikitext text/x-wiki Hello, and welcome. You are probably visiting this page from the sitenotices. Yes, it is true — [[Wikinews closes after 21 years|Wikinews has been closed after 21 years]]. On this page you will find information about how and when the closure process took place, along with other details related to the closing of Wikinews. This page is meant to serve as a historical documentation page. == Timeline == * '''May–June 2025:''' Wikinews communities were notified by the [[meta:Language Committee|Language Committee]] that no new language editions of Wikinews would be created from the Incubator. * This was followed by a clarification from the [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|Sister Projects Task Force]] (SPTF), which had been given the task of conducting a public consultation about Wikinews and submitting their final analysis to the Board of Trustees. * '''Around June 2, 2025:''' A [[meta:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force#Bengali wikinews|clarification was issued]] that the consideration of closing down the Wikinews project was being actively planned. * '''Late June 2025:''' A [[meta:Talk:Public consultation about Wikinews|public consultation was opened]] to gather opinions and comments from the wider Wikimedia community. The SPTF also submitted their [[meta:Public_consultation_about_Wikinews|public consultation report]], which included their analysis of Wikinews. * '''August 2025:''' The public consultation on Wikinews concluded. * '''Late November 2025:''' The SPTF [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force/Results of the consultation about Wikispore and Wikinews|released the results of the public consultation]] along with their formal recommendation to the Board of Trustees. * '''March 30, 2026:''' The Board of Trustees [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard&oldid=30335338#Board_of_Trustees_Approves_Closure_of_Wikinews made their final decision to close Wikinews]. All Wikinews language editions will be read-only from May 4, 2026. == Future of Wikinews == Unclear as of April 2026; see [[WN:migration]] for more. [[Category:Wikinews]] cxhbtzmq17q9e2xjsl2xryr4de4c2hr 3 3089206 5005327 5004614 2026-04-06T08:01:42Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* Copyright violation */ new topic ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5005327 wikitext text/x-wiki == Comment == God, I hope you get blocked soon. 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He is currently in SDA Secondary School jwi12u74i6e46uqyrc3ncqtrn0lmiiu 5005176 5005174 2026-04-05T22:13:30Z Felix the Alto 2951876 5005176 wikitext text/x-wiki Ameyaw Felix Adom professional known as Felix the Alto is a Ghanaian Gospel Artiste with passion for Chorale Classical Contemporary Baroque and Operatic Performance. 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fighter jet has been shot down over Iran on Friday, three US sources said, confirming Iranian state media reports. The jet was an F-15E Strike Eagle fighter jet, a jet capable of carrying out air-to-air and air-to-ground missions. F-15s typically are crewed by a pilot and a weapon systems officer. US forces have launched search and rescue efforts, two of the sources said. 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