Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals

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I have done [[:b:en:Wikibooks:Reading room/Proposals#Limit some namespaces on this project's FlaggedRevs extension?|a similar proposal]] months ago on English Wikibooks. Thoughts? [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 06:07, 5 January 2026 (UTC) : I like the idea. I'd like to see what other, more technical folks have to say before officially supporting it. We may also benefit from waiting until en.WB completes their change to see what issues they run into in the process. : We would need to organize a small project team to go through all templates and deal with unsighted changes before the config change, to ensure unsighted changes aren't either lost or auto-sighted, depending on how the process handles unsighted changes. : We also are waiting for the WMF Board to announce their decision on the recommendation to close all Wikinews. There would be no sense in doing the work if they are closing the project.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 14:23, 5 January 2026 (UTC) ::If there is a plan to migrate the wiki to new hosting, then any last minute changes would also be migrated. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:22, 5 January 2026 (UTC) :: Wikibooks has already done this. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 20:05, 5 January 2026 (UTC) :::Yeah and what was their motivation? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:24, 5 January 2026 (UTC) ::::On English Wikibooks, we wanted to limit FlaggedRevs to article content namespaces, and it worked, but not before we also had to implement <code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes = 0</code> too. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 19:09, 7 January 2026 (UTC) :::::I did not understand why. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:40, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::In the context of article content namespaces, that would be the mainspace, Cookbook, and Wikijunior. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:29, 23 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] In short, because otherwise banners like [[phab:F69801009]] would have been irremovably present on pages transcluding a template that (a) had once been reviewed, & (b) hadn't yet had its most recent version reviewed. This is probably a bug in FlaggedRevs itself ([[phab:T411328]]), but given the extension's [[phab:T185664|current maintenance situation]], I wouldn't personally expect it to necessarily be fixed anytime soon. (In case you're interested, I left a bit of a longer explanation on phab at [[phab:T408110#11370668]] & on en.wikibooks in [[b:en:special:gotocomment/c-A_smart_kitten-20251115215100-Codename_Noreste-20251115190500|this comment]].) Best, [[user:a smart kitten|a smart kitten]] ([[user talk:a smart kitten|talk]]) 13:04, 18 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::(Oh, I just realised that you might not have been asking about why enwikibooks also set <code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes</code> to <code>0</code>. Apologies if so :p) [[user:a smart kitten|a smart kitten]] ([[user talk:a smart kitten|talk]]) 13:05, 18 February 2026 (UTC) :Hi [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]], what is the motivation for these two proposed changes? What would they improve? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:21, 5 January 2026 (UTC) ::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], I replied above. I saw the [[Wikinews:Reviewing articles|article review policy]] about the following: {{tq|Please note that only users who have the reviewer permission should review and publish articles.}} Because of that, I think it would make sense to only limit FlaggedRevs to just the article namespace only. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 00:23, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::The current setup allows anyone to edit a template and it would only become visible on other pages after a reviewer approves the edit. So, the change that is being proposed, would make it harder for non-reviewer users to make minor changes to templates and other non-(Main) pages: instead of just clicking 'edit' they would need to go to talk page and request a change there. On the plus side however, it would relieve reviewers from ''that'' (non-Main) backlog. I am fine either way; I am neutral on this issue. If needed, I can help with the implementation of a change if it was desired. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:01, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::: {{tq|The current setup allows anyone to edit a template}} :::: This is not true. Many are edit-protected to one degree or another. For example, no one but administrators can edit [[Template:Source]] and only an admin+reviewer can sight the change. :::: {{tq|the change that is being proposed, would make it harder for non-reviewer users to make minor changes to templates'}} :::: Disabling Flagged Revs would not make it harder to make changes to templates. It would make changes immediately visible everywhere the template is transcluded. :::: {{tq|instead of just clicking 'edit' they would need to go to talk page and request a change there.'}} :::: What you are describing here is edit protection, not flagged revs. When templates use flagged revs, changes made by ''anyone'' must be sighted or approved by a reviewer. If the template is protected such as template:source to admin-only level, we need someone who is both reviewer ''and'' admin to make and sight the change. :::: {{tq|On the plus side however, it would relieve reviewers from ''that'' (non-Main) backlog.'}} :::: Removing flagged revs would reduce the number of changes that need to be approved, but currently only by 14%. The remaining 195 changes still need to be processed. :::: Removing flagged revs from templates will not only make it easier to maintain our templates, it will also reduce our risk if something should go wrong with the flagged revs.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 13:44, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::::1. OK, make it harder to edit ''some'' templates. (Not all are edit protected.) :::::2. It would make it harder for editing ''some'' templates - those that are not edit protected. :::::3. Not really interested in that scenario; interested in those that are not edit protected. Those that are edit protected, it is correct that they require an admin and a reviewer with current setup, and only a admin with proposed setup. But that was not the point that I was raising. :::::3a. Setting <pre>$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['review'] = true; //allow administrators to review revisions</pre> could be an option, if needed. A request would need to be made that sysops only work outside of main namespace, and possibly only with cosmetic edits to main namespace. That too would reduce reviewers backlog as they would not need to sight changes where a vandal did something and it was undone back identical to previous revision, or minor formatting and punctuation edits. :::::4. Ok, fine. By 14% is still helpful. :::::2, 4. It is not called "removing / disabling flaggedrevs", it is called "disabling flaggedrevs on namespaces that are not main". Removing it implies removing the extension from the wiki altogether, and is not a part of this proposal. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:38, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::::: {{tq|make it harder to edit ''some'' templates}} :::::: Disabling flagged revs in template space won't make it harder to edit ''any'' templates. It will allow for changes to be immediately transcluded, without requiring changes to be sighted (approved). :::::: Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are trying to say here. But since you are neutral on the change, maybe it also doesn't matter that I can't make sense of it.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 19:09, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::as I said earlier, if those templates that are under flaggedrevs control now will become protected, they will become harder for non-(privleged) users to edit. I am assuming that they will be protected. there was no consensus here on making them free for anyone to edit. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:07, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :* {{support}}: I do think it would be a better idea to limit it to the main namespace only. As I understand it, the primary focus of the Reviewers user group is to review and evaluate articles and publish them, along with related changes. This would certainly reduce the additional, less important pending changes burden in other namespaces. But, before implementing this as Michael.C.Wright suggests, all current non mainspace changes should be sighted first. Besides that, I do not currently have any other points against this in mind. :-- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:22, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::Pinging [[User:A smart kitten|A smart kitten]] to my FlaggedRevs proposal here, as they might know a little bit more about this extension than we do. I'll probably file a task for this today, given that some are in favor of this change. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 15:18, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::2 yes and 1 neutral. I would suggest wait a bit more before filing task. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:57, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::To be clear, I wouldn't say I'm an expert on FlaggedRevs by any means :p - I just know a bit that I looked into while working on [[phab:T408110]] :) :::I left a note re <code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes</code> [[#c-A_smart_kitten-20260218130400-Gryllida-20260111164000|above]], but feel free to ping me if there are any other questions about the proposal from a technical perspective. Best, [[user:a smart kitten|a smart kitten]] ([[user talk:a smart kitten|talk]]) 13:09, 18 February 2026 (UTC) : {{Support}} Since I didn't make that explicit...apologies. : I should have time later today to work through the pending changes to templates if someone doesn't get to them sooner.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 16:01, 17 February 2026 (UTC) : <strike>Aside from the one above waiting on [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]],</strike> we have all pending changes to templates done. I can keep an eye on them and sight them as a priority until we get the flagged revs disabled for template namespace.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 18:59, 17 February 2026 (UTC) : The Phabricator ticket for the request has been closed as 'resolved.'[https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418066] : I checked [[Template:Source]] and [[Template:Date]] to test, and verified that I no longer have the option to ''Submit changes'' as opposed to ''Save changes'' and there is no option to "Mark this version as reviewed" as expected if FlaggedRevs were disabled for templates. : I think we should leave this discussion open for a week or two longer, just in case we run across any issues. Thank you @[[User:Pppery|Pppery]], @[[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]], and @[[User:A smart kitten|A smart kitten]]![[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 00:23, 25 March 2026 (UTC) === Protecting templates === : I am working through the pending changes to templates now. I think it would be wise to protect all templates to 'auto-confirm' accounts as a minimum, not changing any existing protection levels. A lot of the pending changes so far include reverted vandalism (this is good, it is being found and reverted quickly). Many of the vandals are IP/temp accounts, which presumably haven't yet been auto-confirmed. : That could be a lot of tedious work to do up front, but may pay off in the long run. : Any thoughts/objections?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 18:35, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::Do you have a few examples? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:48, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::: Feel free to look through the edit history/recent changes. I was typically descriptive using 'vandalism undone.'[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 18:49, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::: I just hit this one, so here's an example: [[Template:TScope/ex/doc]]. ::: Feel free to take action on it.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 18:51, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::::Hi ::::Ah yes. Those were not edit protected, and anyone could edit them. For when nobody looking, that backlog is pretty tame... ::::#I personally would think that edit protect them makes sense only if the proposed change was to go ahead - ::::# but then, I would suggest to make them "reviewer or admin only" as is more similar to like the current setup, where the intent is for the edit to be checked by a privileged user. Relying on recent change patrolling may not work well on a small wiki that is news focused. ::::# In any case of protection I would suggest to work on making it easier to request an edit. Clicking "talk" and leaving a message is pretty hard For a newbie. ::::# Could the software show a banner at top of all edit protected pages with a big fat "request edit" button that takes to new section at talk with relevant "edit protected request" or whatever template already filled in with a space to describe proposed edit and reason. This banner should only show for users who do not have the privilege to edit the page. ::::# If needed i can write a js that protects page, places a banner at page top, and sights the edit. ::::- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:10, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::::: > ''I would suggest to make them "reviewer or admin only" as is more similar to like the current setup, where the intent is for the edit to be checked by a privileged user.'' ::::: We can't set "reviewer" as a level of protection. It's not available in the protection menu (I'm not sure if we can somehow enable it). ::::: Also, protecting to admin-only would put too much burden on a group that is already underserved and over-taxed. It is further frustrated by the fact that one of our two interface admins ([[User:Asked42|Asked42]]) is neither a reviewer nor an admin and therefore they would not be able make ''any'' changes to templates if we protected them all to reviewer (if we are able) or admin. ::::: A good portion of the changes I sighted were indeed made by Asked42. ::::: I think auto-confirmed as the minimum baseline, with some fully protected (as they already are) is a good compromise/happy medium.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 19:23, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::yes we can add a [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRestrictionLevels $wgRestrictionLevels], i guess 'sysop or reviewer or interface admin' could work [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:06, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::This would require initiating a separate proposal to add <code>editautoreviewprotected</code> as a protection level and user right (autoreviewed users, reviewers, and administrators). Protection for interface administrators is currently not possible, as regular administrators cannot edit site CSS/JS pages, or CSS and JS pages in any user's userspace (except for their own). [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 21:10, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::: Based on this, I think we should protect all templates to a minimum 'auto-confirmed' level, then increase it on an as-needed basis, with the understanding that over-protection impedes regular maintenance. Protecting all templates to reviewer + admin is in my opinion overkill and prevents our single, active, interface admin from being able to make any changes to any templates. Very few of our templates are used on published articles, which is arguably our most sensitive namespace as far as vandalism is concerned. This also requires no changes be made to the overall config. So to be clear, I would support the following (<del>assuming</del> <ins>I assume</ins> we also do it in the following order): :::::::: ::::::::* Protecting all templates to a minimum of auto-confirmed users ::::::::* Remove/disable flagged revs in the Template namespace :::::::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 23:01, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::that risks all sysops (who may be awol at times) missing an edit an autoconfirmed user made, whereas protecting would prevent this. i think on a small wiki it is better to reduce risk of an edit being made inadvertedly and then being missed. this is not wikipedia where good faith is assumed and infinite resources are available for post-edit page patrol. that would be a low activity backlog anyway seeing that you handled all pending revisions within less than a day - and they were accumulated over course of a few years i believed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:09, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::Whatever user right, it should be granted based on consensus or a sysop decision, not "this user was on wiki for 3 days therefore not spammer" (whatever that was named), in my view. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:22, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::: I {{oppose}} applying reviewer and/or admin-only protection to all templates. It will make general maintenance too difficult. I {{support}} applying auto-confirm protection to all templates that are not currently protected, or: I {{support}} not changing template protection broadly at this time. I don't think this decision should impede the original proposal since it was added later.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 01:11, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::I initiated [[phab:T418066]]. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 20:58, 21 February 2026 (UTC) ==== Options how to protect ==== For templates which are current in control by flagged revs, a reviewer has to sight an edit for it to be approved and become included in other pages. With the flagged revs being disabled for them. There is a need to make a decision what to do to prevent vandalism and other unwanted edits. * Option 1: do nothing; the templates become available for anyone to edit. Another user can undo that. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong; any user can monitor and undo. * Option 2: protect on 'auto-confirmed' level. Accounts with the 'autoconfirmed' privilege can edit. Another 'autoconfirmed' user can undo if needed. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong; an 'autoconfirmed' user or users need to check recent changes and monitor. This inconveniences users who are not 'autoconfirmed' because they havve to open a new section at talk page to request an edit. Work load on 'auto-confirmed' is increased because they have to monitor such requests and recent changes. * Option 3: protect on 'some new privilege name here' level. The privilege is given out to any user who was doing something constructive and is provided by request without needing to do a full vote. A vote may be held to remove it if needed or an admin can remove that privilege if it was misused. Another 'some new privilege name here' user can undo if needed. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong; an 'some new privilege name here' user or users need to check recent changes and monitor. This inconveniences users who are not a'some new privilege name here' because now they have to manually request new edits at the talk page. Work load on 'some new privilege name here' is increased because they have to monitor such requests and recent changes. * Option 4: protect on 'reviewer or sysop or interface admin' level. Accounts with 'reviewer or sysop or interface admin' privilege can edit, and another user with that privilege can undo if needed. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong, however, the pool of users was hand selected and voted on and the risk was reduced. This inconveniences users who are not a 'reviewer or sysop or interface admin' because now they have to manually request new edits at the talk page. Work load on 'reviewer or sysop or interface admin' is increased because they have to monitor such requests and recent changes. * Option 5: protect on 'sysop' level. Accounts with sysop (Administrator) privilege can edit, and another user with that privilege can undo if needed. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong, however, the pool of users was hand selected and voted on and the risk was reduced. This inconveniences users who are not a Administrator because now they have to manually request new edits at the talk page. Work load on 'Administrator' is increased because they have to monitor such requests and recent changes. Let me know if I missed something. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 03:01, 22 February 2026 (UTC) Comments and discussion * I have stronger support for 5 than 4 than 3 than 2. The amount of such changes made in template namespace was tiny and I propose to reduce load on 'contributors, users, reviewers, and interface admins', as they best work on news. Solving vandalism or 'hey lets change this because thats how i did it somewhere else and i thought that is good here' or 'i am confused' issues is a sysop job (ignoring that sysops have huge backlog because I am here and I don't even know that these tasks exist, but still. sysop handle mitigations of abuse and approvals of legit edits, in my view. I do not want to bring up question of sysop backlog size or lack of prior involvement in such issues before as it is not directly relevant to my argument). [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 02:50, 22 February 2026 (UTC) == Proposal to ban usage of AI at Wikinews == From [[Wikinews:Deletion_requests#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260107193100-Israeli_naval_ships_intercept_Gaza-bound_Global_Sumud_Flotilla]] there is a note from @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]] "I would even go so far as to propose that we block all AI articles on this wiki.". I agree with this proposal in short term. In long term I think it would be good to allow it after some reliable workflow is developed. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] may be interested in this discussion. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:51, 7 January 2026 (UTC) === Votes === * {{support}} noting this is for short term only and further effort could be undertaken to see what went wrong and how it could be addressed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:51, 7 January 2026 (UTC) *:I'm unsure about this right now [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:05, 7 January 2026 (UTC) *::{{oppose}} greatly, [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:21, 7 January 2026 (UTC) *::Hi @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] what would you think of requirement 'ai involved articles are in beta phrase, and are only allowed to be written for events which happened on first day of the month'? or some other random blanket rule that leads to effort managing ai generated content as a beta stage only and not every day. then maybe some understanding could be reached how to use ai more efficiently. please let me know, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:26, 11 January 2026 (UTC) *:::im just so used to using AI I personally enjoy it and I think it helps in some ways to news stories. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:27, 11 January 2026 (UTC) *:Yes, short term. When AI gets better or we have more manpower etc., we of course gonna use it. But not for now [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 04:45, 9 January 2026 (UTC) *::Hi @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], what would you think of requirement 'ai involved articles are in beta phrase, and are only allowed to be written for events which happened on first day of the month'? or some other random blanket rule that leads to effort managing ai generated content as a beta stage only and not every day. then maybe some understanding could be reached how to use ai more efficiently. please let me know, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:26, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * {{support}} a ban on AI generated news pieces. I'm not seeing how it provides value since anyone can ask AI to summarize a news article. Plus, the AI model appears to hallucinate and includes false information or bad sources, so it seems like it creates unnecessary work. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 21:55, 7 January 2026 (UTC) *: I used AI to help with the following published articles, for just a few examples: :: ::* [[U.S. strikes Iranian nuclear sites Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan overnight]] ::* [[NASA revises asteroid 2024 YR4 threat, near-zero chance of Earth impact]] ::* [[United States sends second aircraft carrier to Middle East, extends ''Truman'' deployment]] ::* [[Oregon court rules voter-approved gun law constitutional]] ::* [[US Navy Secretary nominee Phelan outlines readiness, cost-cutting reforms in Senate hearing]] :: :: I believe they all benefitted from it. I'm not saying they're perfect, but I think they benefitted from AI assistance. :: I also use it to check neutrality and balance during reviews and I find it's very helpful in that regard.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 22:59, 7 January 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]] what would you think of requirement 'ai involved articles are in beta phrase, and are only allowed to be written for events which happened on first day of the month'? or some other random blanket rule that leads to effort managing ai generated content as a beta stage only and not every day. then maybe some understanding could be reached how to use ai more efficiently. please let me know, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:27, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * {{oppose}} Each instance of AI hallucinations slipping through was either 1. A violation of [[WN:AI]] or 2. Should have been caught by the review process, or both. Maybe if we de-flagged reviewers after three AI slip-ups in published articles, we'd catch more of them sooner. I think AI should be treated no different than a human editor. That means any hallucinations, which are simply inaccuracies or unsupported statements by another name, are catchable in the review process (but should be caught in the development process). I would imagine if we ban it, we will simply drive its use "underground." And to be clear; I'm not advocating for AI-generated articles, but AI-assisted articles. I'd prefer that we enforce the full and complete review process. Pseudo-reviews that skip the verification process predictably lead to more corrections and retractions.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 22:38, 7 January 2026 (UTC) ::I think we have yet to update [[Wikinews:The use of AI in generating content]] then approve it either as a policy or a guideline. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 22:41, 7 January 2026 (UTC) ::: I agree. The proposed guideline variously states that humans are responsible for the state of the article. ::: :::* "these drafts must always be critically reviewed and fact-checked by human contributors before submission." :::* "the final decisions on wording and style remain human-led." :::* "any interpretation or conclusions drawn must be reviewed by human contributors." :::* "The editorial process, including pre-reviews and final reviews, must always be carried out by human contributors." ::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 22:52, 7 January 2026 (UTC) ::::AI makes stuff up and this is quite dangerous. I asked it about a snow hazard in Switzerland and provided list of 3 sources; it told me the date 13 months off. If AI assistance is to be kept, I would suggest requiring that the author(s) provide a list of prompts to their AI tool on the talk page. This could help to improve quality of reports. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 02:09, 8 January 2026 (UTC) ::::: > ''AI makes stuff up and this is quite dangerous.'' ::::: However, those facts must be present in the listed sources to be included in our article. Bogus facts provided by AI won't be in the listed sources. A full and complete review will catch that. That's how they were caught in both recent cases where a retraction was proposed. Someone read the article and tried to verify every statement against the sources.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 03:06, 8 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::I was told Grok AI gave information on underage kids pornography so strong delete@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:55, 8 January 2026 (UTC) :::::::https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/05/elon-musk-grok-ai-digitally-undress-images-of-women-children [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:58, 8 January 2026 (UTC) ::"Maybe if we de-flagged reviewers after three AI slip-ups in published articles, we'd catch more of them sooner." Should the authors be penalised in any way, if they repeatedly fail to catch AI's hallucinations? I'd like to know your opinion on this, @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:20, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::: Authors are responsible for accuracy. But reviewers bear final accountability for published content because review is a permission granted by the community to publish on its behalf. In these cases, the failure was not the existence of errors, but their approval through incomplete review.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 15:56, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::::Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ::::1. I ask to approach both reviewer and author in these cases as they both need to change their approach to ensure issues don't happen again and again. I asked you and you said 'Yeah, except reviewers were elected.' Yeah, sure, but my point still stands. I'm speaking of both. ::::2. Doesn't answer my question how to handle users who repeatedly insert same kind of issues into articles. That is not even always visible as the review feedback of failed articles gets deleted along with their talk page. I try to at least post a copy of it onto talk page via 'custom message' feature of ezpr2. Make that an official policy, would you? I'm sure you would be interested in this as it would allow to keep track of issues in articles submitted by that user in one spot, and provide a path towards figuring out why they happen and how to solve them, and improve 'article quality'. ::::3. And the same could go to posting feedback to a reviewer's talk page about post-publish retractions etc. I believe I didn't even ''get'' a talk page message about that retraction request; yet I did get an insinuation here. The note that a particular reviewer is being dodgy sits in your mind and doesn't sit on their talk page. I think that's inefficient. The concern about your mentioning of de-flagging lies in unnecessary escalation; the general civil thing to do has been to leave a message at a talk page before taking further action. ::::Hope it helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:14, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] see [[:w:Hallucination (artificial intelligence)]] for your reference in case you didn't know, regards [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:28, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::: Since hallucinations are inaccuracies, they won't be in the linked sources. So a full and proper [[WN:REV]] would catch them. Just as they were caught in the previously mentioned articles ''once a full and proper review was performed.'' ::: <blockquote>The reviewer should check that all information in the article is fully sourced,</blockquote> ::: Seems like we already have the solution; perform full and proper reviews.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 14:21, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::::Seems like incomplete solution since users don't fix anything fast. I have seen it tried for 15 years. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:50, 11 January 2026 (UTC) *<s>{{Support}}</s>I don't think we are on the right side of history. But current experience shows that editers and reviewers can not determine if theres any content in an AI generated article. And we "cannot edit after it published", so no remedies can be made. I also believe we should issue an announcement after disabling AI, which would show that we are a responsible media outlet. Of course, I maintain the stance discussed earlier that, ideally, editors should consciously strive to discern, and reviewers should ensure everything meets the standards, such as accuracy. If the review process can achieve this, it doesn't matter whether the article is written by a human, Shakespeare's monkey, or AI, nor is explicit labeling necessary, because we ultimately get a good article. I'm not saying people can't achieve this, but it requires too much effort, which is clearly not cost-effective. And if we implement policies similar to this now instead of banning AI, it will lead to situations where submissions written with AI cannot be published due to insufficient and timely review, which is obviously not in our favor. I apologize for the mistakes in an article I participated in editing. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 04:03, 9 January 2026 (UTC) : > ''editers and reviewers can not determine if theres any content in an AI generated article.'' If that were true, how was it identified for the proposed retraction?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 14:32, 9 January 2026 (UTC) ::I'm just coming to this now and have no idea what this question is asking. Is there some background somewhere about a proposed retraction that isn't immediately clear in this thread? What is that phrase referring to? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 04:13, 10 January 2026 (UTC) :::Yes, the proposed deletion linked in the first sentence of this section. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:19, 11 January 2026 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] fyi :::* for last few months now, partly due to my medical issues and partly due to my preference, i have been publishing articles checking only the basics (5Ws and H) and not checking each sentence thoroughly. i read through sources and ensure that what i have read does not have serious npov issues or contradictions that immediately strike my mind, but don't check fully. :::* i believe @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] has made it clear that he is here to uphold the standards to highest thresholds and now this is taking the form of him doing a full review of an article at time of archival. i disagree with this approach as i think it is taking away his valuable time from reviewing stories which are actually fresh. i do not believe anyone ever did a full review of an article at time of archival. this process previously only involved checking for red links, issues anyone previously flagged at a talk page, etc. :::* this in some cases results in him finding a full bucket of issues that he does not wish to write a 'correction' for because it would require a complete article rewrite. as i am one of the active (and lazy) reviewers here i should normally reply to these requests but i lack the energy to do this as my current state for last few months results in my energy levels being extremely low, at around 40% of what an average person has got. cause is unknown. :::* yet i keep reviewing articles and keep ignoring these requests to retract articles because it is even harder to reply to those than to one full review in the first place (need to articulate why some of the points being nitpicked were utter bullshit, as i find that i do disagree with some of them). :::* this leads to me becoming more exhausted and circles back to me not participating properly :::* there is an ondoing discussion of it in [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#Proposed change to review process by Gryllida Version 202512|this section (on the very same 'proposals' subpage of water cooler)]] :::hope this helps you to get an idea of the situation at least qualitatively. :::regards [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:36, 11 January 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], i liked that thought, that catching AI hallucinations is time consuming and may lead to delays in publishing. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:25, 11 January 2026 (UTC) : {{q|[A]t the time of publication, a news article must be solidly fact-checked and as objective as possible.|30px|30px|[[m:Wikinews|''Wikinews''' mission statement at Meta]]}} : To make sure I understand the position being advanced here, I see the following claims and implications: : :* That, for an extended period[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:Competitive_local_elections_held_in_England#Review_of_revision_4855230_%5BNot_ready%5D], reviews have been intentionally conducted without full verification, despite policy requiring it. :* That multiple proposals have been made to relax or redefine review expectations[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance/archives/2024/November#c-Gryllida-20241020021900-Michael.C.Wright-20241014152800],[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2025/June#'5W_Brief'_format] to align with this reduced, 5W-only level of scrutiny, but without community consensus. :* That, following retractions triggered by full verification after publication, the proposed remedy is to restrict or ban AI use rather than to restore compliance with existing review standards. :* That AI-assisted content is treated as uniquely suspect, while comparable human errors from incomplete review are framed as understandable due to fatigue. :* That thorough verification during review is characterized as counterproductive because it increases post-publication workload, rather than being recognized as work that belongs in the review process. : : I disagree with those priorities. : You previously articulated the risk clearly yourself, noting that becoming more liberal in approvals in order to increase output is “disastrous,”[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#c-Gryllida-2013-08-28T21:28:00.000Z-Wikiwide-2013-08-28T12:57:00.000Z] and that pursuing readership through speed leads to biased, lower-quality journalism. That analysis remains sound and is manifest here in the number of resultant retractions. : Applying full verification after publication did create additional work, but only because required checks were knowingly deferred during review. The remedy is not to restrict tools, but to align review practice with policy. : The underlying issue is not that policy was followed, but that it was repeatedly and unilaterally dismissed.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 15:42, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::This is too long, but I will answer each point anyway. ::* That, for an extended period[4], reviews have been intentionally conducted without full verification, despite policy requiring it. ::** Yes. I try to do full verification to a degree, but not to each letter. The motivation here is to verify key details and publish while article is still fresh. ::* That multiple proposals have been made to relax or redefine review expectations[5],[6] to align with this reduced, 5W-only level of scrutiny, but without community consensus. ::** That discussion is still open. ::* That, following retractions triggered by full verification after publication, the proposed remedy is to restrict or ban AI use rather than to restore compliance with existing review standards. ::** This is an overloaded sentence for me. For once, it's not only 'review' standards at the plate, it's also the 'write up' standards on the plate. ::* That AI-assisted content is treated as uniquely suspect, while comparable human errors from incomplete review are framed as understandable due to fatigue. ::** I do not know where this came from; please try phrasing it again. I lack resource to attempt to read this more than once. ::* That thorough verification during review is characterized as counterproductive because it increases post-publication workload, rather than being recognized as work that belongs in the review process. ::** I do not know where this came from; please try phrasing it again. I lack resource to attempt to read this more than once. ::* Pursuing readership through speed leads to biased, lower-quality journalism ::** I do not care about readership. I do not know why you think I care of ''that''. ::* "Applying full verification after publication did create additional work, but only because required checks were knowingly deferred during review. The remedy is not to restrict tools, but to align review practice with policy." is missing a 'In my view' note. ::* "The underlying issue is not that policy was followed, but that it was repeatedly and unilaterally dismissed." ::** I do not agree with this statement. I do not think the current policy requires 100% coverage of fact check. ::Hope this helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:57, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::: > ''I do not think the current policy requires 100% coverage of fact check.'' ::: It is explicit: "The reviewer should check that all information in the article is fully sourced..." ::: It's been a part of the policy since its inception, [[Special:Diff/672352|eighteen years ago]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 16:04, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::::Thanks for that. Posted below. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:35, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::{{Comment}} My understanding is that, for a fair amount of time: ::* There has been a lack of humans, writing articles, editing articles and reviewing them, making it difficult to publish even one article a week; ::* That for a fair amount of articles "written" with usage of AI, the quality problems were significant - not only in style of writing, but even in "facts" mentioned in the article; ::* That we currently have a tool to discourage blatant plagiarism from sources - which therefore encourages "lazy" (or tired, or whatever) contributors to use AI as text generator; ::* AI assisted content is not treated as uniquely suspect. Rather, where text is written by humans, humans are much less likely to generate hallucinations, and much more likely to follow guidelines for writing articles. AI assisted content doesn't know Wikinews guidelines, and even if it were provided with them, it would still be likely to hallucinate; ::The proposals in this thread have included: ::* Temporarily banning AI usage for writing of text in Wikinews articles - which I tend to agree with, though I would prefer a constructive discussion on positive and negative examples of AI generated contributions to Wikinews; ::* Removing reviewer duties from people who have missed AI hallucinations in articles they have published - which I absolutely disagree with. We need more people in Wikinews, not less. ::I would like to add the following proposals: ::* Possibly, add a tool to detect AI hallucinations - numbers (10 or ten or dozens - format doesn't matter), places, people which are not mentioned in the sources; ::* Or even better, write a Wikinews-specific (AI-powered? I don't like AI, but if you do, go ahead, contribute to development and testing) tool to generate text based on the provided links to sources; ::* Remember that having duties of being a reviewer doesn't deprive you of rights of being an editor. If an article needs improvement and editors are not showing up, feel free to improve it yourself - with caveat that you will have to find another reviewer to publish it afterwards. ::Reviewers don't have to be perfect. Reviewers need to be there, active and helping. But they don't have to be perfect. They just have to do their best. And discouraging writers and reviewers, penalizing them for their mistakes, can kill the project. This isn't school where kids have to go, whether they want to or not. This is a project based on volunteers. So instead of wasting their time with these heated opinionated threads and further dividing the community, get out there and do what you can. /AI will not write Wikinews for us./ [[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] ([[User talk:Wikiwide|talk]]) 07:48, 12 January 2026 (UTC) ::: > ''Reviewers don't have to be perfect. Reviewers need to be there, active and helping. But they don't have to be perfect. They just have to do their best.'' :::: We hold contributors accountable under our policies and guidelines, and the same applies to reviewers. '''Publishing inaccurate, biased, or plagiarized content due to incomplete review should not be acceptable.''' Reviewers volunteer for the role with an understanding of its requirements. Unilaterally choosing to disregard core policy for convenience undermines that responsibility, creates more work for others, and damages the project's reputation. ::: ::: :::: If reviewers knowingly accept inaccuracies, bias, or plagiarism for reasons of convenience, it raises a fundamental question about the purpose of the reviewer role itself. The review function exists precisely to prevent those failures, not to normalize them. ::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 14:49, 12 January 2026 (UTC) ::: > ''Removing reviewer duties from people who have missed AI hallucinations'' That was not proposed. I forwarded a thought experiment by saying "'''Maybe''' [emphasis added] if we de-flagged reviewers after three AI slip-ups in published articles, we'd catch more of them sooner." There used to be the notion of "easy-come, easy-go" for the reviewer bit. There is a very brief discussion [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2010/June#%7B%7BUser Wikinews reviewer%7D%7D|here]] between Pi zero and Brian McNeil, two contributors who were instrumental in developing the modern review process. That discussion illustrates the level of attention to detail they hoped for from reviewers. Our current policies and guidelines still largely reflect that expectation. My point is that this is not the way to go about policy change. What has occurred is one reviewer has unilaterally disregarded policy for personal convenience (as stated), and that has resulted in the publication of inaccuracies, bias, and/or plagiarism. If [[WN:IAR]] is used as a justification (and it has not been, so far), even that requires the action to ''improve'' the project. Reviewing as if a policy change has occurred, when it has not, predictably increases post-publication errors and workload. It then becomes circular to cite those downstream burdens as justification for lowering the standard that would have prevented them.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 17:42, 12 January 2026 (UTC) ::::I don't think there was disregard from one reviewer, that's why I opened RFC below. I believe that doing 100% verification was not common practice. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:04, 12 January 2026 (UTC) :::::Do we have consensus? @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:58, 12 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::Not before a few other contributors weigh in. This may take a few weeks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:58, 18 January 2026 (UTC) *{{support}} At this time. Let's see what the future holds, though. Maybe let's revisit this next year?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:19, 29 January 2026 (UTC) *'''Support''' a ban on unsupervised use of genAI for article creation or expansion, {{Oppose}} a blanket ban. Part of why I oppose the "nuclear option" is because it's nearly impossible to definitively know whether a certain sentence was purely AI-generated or merely the signature of a more formal human writing. As long as it's used responsibly, genAI can be a very handy tool for writing [[WN:Breaking news|breaking news articles]], seeking feedback on the quality of an almost complete article, correcting the grammar, translating content, and other purposes. For example, when I wrote "[[Bangladeshi interim leader Muhammad Yunus returns home after four-day visit to London]]" and "[https://web.archive.org/web/20250707221334/https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Australia%27s_truth_commission_finds_genocide_against_Aboriginal_Victorians,_suggests_practical_remedies Australia's truth commission finds genocide against Aboriginal Victorians, suggests practical remedies]" (which was [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=delete&user=&page=Australia%27s+truth+commission+finds+genocide+against+Aboriginal+Victorians%2C+suggests+practical+remedies&excludetempacct=1&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist deleted] due to staleness), I asked ChatGPT very simple prompts such as "Please assess that article" and "Is my article good?", and it gave me some rather useful advice (in retrospect, I admit that I should perhaps have disclosed it on the talk pages). Of course, it's a double-edged sword, and I discarded the recommendations which seemed very nitpicky or would run against P&Gs such as [[WN:NPOV|NPOV]]. I think a responsible (if imperfect) approach would be to give a hard "Not Ready" verdict on articles that look entirely AI-generated from the beginning to the end, grant a bit of leeway for those where only a specific section or paragraph is AI-generated, add one or more sections at [[Help:AI]] for guidance on rewriting these sorts of articles, and direct contributors to both that help page and [[WN:The use of AI in generating content]]. [[User:Redireditor|Redir]][[Special:Contributions/Redireditor|editor]] ('''[[User talk:Redireditor|talk]]''') 01:36, 18 February 2026 (UTC) {{comment}} In light of a recent [[User talk:Michael.C.Wright#c-Gryllida-20260224194500-BigKrow-20260224180300|suggestion to use AI tools to evaluate or fact-check AI-generated material]], and a [[Talk:Moreton Bay illegally evicted homeless campers, Queensland Supreme Court rules#AI usage declaration|recent declaration of AI use in generating a published article]], it would be helpful to clarify the scope of this proposal. If the use of AI in some capacity is considered acceptable by the original poster, then the concern being addressed here may be narrower than originally framed. If that is the case, should the proposal be revised or withdrawn so the discussion reflects that distinction more clearly? [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 02:36, 10 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that clarification is needed. AI can be used for many things while writing an article without actually creating the wikinews-authored article text itself. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:28, 4 April 2026 (UTC) === Consensus assessment and possible next steps === My read of the consensus to this point is: * Support: 3 * Oppose: 2 * Support Retracted: 1 * No stated position: 3 Support remains conditional and temporary in framing, not a blanket permanent ban. With only one-vote separation and multiple participants explicitly calling for further discussion, this still does not meet a strong consensus threshold. The thread shows more agreement on process deficiencies (review standards, workload) than on prohibition itself. Based on that, and keeping in mind that consensus is not determined by simple vote totals but by working toward a solution that reasonably addresses the main concerns raised on all sides, I suggest the following be considered for further community discussion: * Transition [[WN:AI]] from a draft guideline into a proposed policy, so its requirements and enforcement expectations are clearer. * We carefully monitor AI usage to ensure it is 1. transparent, 2. accurate, 3. NPOV. See [[:Category:AI usage declared]] as just one tool towards this end. * For a limited trial period (for example, three months), apply a standardized disclosure notice on newly published articles that involve AI assistance. (<del>someone else</del> <ins>[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]</ins> proposed this elsewhere[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals/archives/2025/November#Thinking_-_asking_-_wondering]). See [[:Template:AI disclosure]] as a proposed draft. * Reassess outcomes after the trial period to determine whether current practices are improving article quality and review reliability. Comments welcome on whether this approach reasonably addresses the concerns raised so far.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 15:05, 30 January 2026 (UTC) :Agreed. Works for me. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:26, 10 March 2026 (UTC) : I have tweaked [[WN:AI]] to reflect that it is a proposed policy rather than a proposed guideline. : If we are considering a reader-facing disclaimer placed directly on articles, as I understand [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals/archives/2025/November#c-Bddpaux-20251104213100-Thinking_-asking-_wondering|this suggestion]], I think it should first have clear and explicit consensus. : Please comment below indicating {{tl|support}} or {{tl|oppose}} for '''using [[Template:AI disclosure]] directly on articles for a three-month trial period'''. You may also provide specific suggestions regarding the reader-facing template. If opposing, please include a brief rationale.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 14:58, 26 March 2026 (UTC) ::I did not understand what change is proposed. I am already following that linked guideline and the software is already prompting to declare AI usage at submission. What would "support" change here? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:07, 27 March 2026 (UTC) : An interesting read at Slashdot, that may be informative to this discussion: [https://news.slashdot.org/story/26/04/05/2119210/will-ai-assisted-journalists-bring-errors-and-retractions Will 'AI-Assisted' Journalists Bring Errors and Retractions?]. Original article is [https://www.msn.com/en-us/technology/artificial-intelligence/an-ai-upheaval-is-coming-for-media-this-journalist-is-already-all-in/ar-AA1ZuM7j here].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 11:00, 6 April 2026 (UTC) == RfC from reviewers: verifiability policy == {{flag}} The current verifiability policy states "''The reviewer should check that all information in the article is fully sourced''". In a discussion above, [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] noted that this requires checking each piece in the published article to the letter. So for example the way I understood it from above discussion, publishing an article with note 'A bus crashed, it carried 45 customers.' with a lot of other newsy information such as 5Ws, H, a driver was drunk, driver survived with one leg injury, etc other details, would require reviewer checking everything; according to this interpretation, just checking everything else while ignoring that piece of detail about '45' (and hence risking it will be published with incorrect number) would be against the current policy. This is purposefully a bit exaggerated example to get my point across. From time to time Michael.C.Wright picked up some more serious issues in my reviews, for example one article I didn't run in copyvio check, and then he went and put a dozen of issues which weren't adequately verified or attributed or some other thing, that I am yet to look at when I am slightly less busy hopefully towards the end of this week, and proposed a retraction. That retraction discussion link is located in first sentence of the above proposal to ban AI usage at ''Wikinews''. I don't believe this is realistic to expect a reviewer to check 100% of the content in an article unless someone is hired to do such extensive reviews and another user is hired to implement the requested changes quickly (a total of 2 users hired). I believe that requiring full review will delay reviews as they are simply more time consuming for the reviewer; and this will also delay publishing because a long list of issues will be presented to an author, and an author will take longer to address them. I proposed earlier, for example, that only the 5W and H, and plagiarism, should be checked, and potentially NPOV next on the list, but I expect that checking article to the last letter of each sentence is not required. For example being satisfied that around 70% of the article was confirmed in the sources could be sufficient to publish it. I am seeking comment from each reviewer about this. Please type it into below if you do not mind. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) === Comments from reviewers === This section is just for reviewers to say how they are doing reviews or how they think they should be done, whether they should be '100% verification coverage', etc. When posting this I wanted it just to see what each reviewer is doing currently about this. It is not intended for discussion just to see the current status. Then, further down the page, this section is then followed by another section for discussion. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Acagastya|Acagastya]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Chaetodipus|Chaetodipus]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Cromium|Cromium]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ** As noted above, I would be satisfied if 5W and H was verified and ''majority'' of the article, not necessarily 100% of the article. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:RockerballAustralia|RockerballAustralia]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:SVTCobra|SVTCobra]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:ShakataGaNai|ShakataGaNai]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Tom Morris|Tom Morris]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Tyrol5|Tyrol5]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) === General discussion === General discussion. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) :[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], not sure you are the best to do this but maybe you know someone who does: need to contact each reviewer off wiki asking to comment here and to advise when available for audio call as i think that is the only way to reconnect reviewers, by having a call at least once each three months. I scream in pain as this software does not have a calendar nor a doodle built into it and I am lost. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:42, 16 January 2026 (UTC) ::Noting I tried EmailUser and had no response. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:43, 16 January 2026 (UTC) === General discussion point 2: recent change === :''For a related discussion, see [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance#Clarification about post publish and post archive edits|Clarification about post publish and post archive edits]]'' *{{comment}} I feel that what [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] is doing, by cross checking the work of other reviewers at time of archival (or insert some other 'eternity later' description here), and by flagging all possible issues that were missed as part of review, undermines two types of relationships: author to reviewer, and reviewer to reviewer. While both of these could be blamed on the reviewer who approved the story that was later scrutinized, I do not find this approach particularly fruitful for the quality of news output nor for the integrity of the project as a whole. I am seeking comment from everyone about this matter. In my opinion lowering the tolerance to omissions, as long as it does not land into plagiarism or substantial bias territory, was previously allowed and the level of cross check in the last year has unnecessarily -- and without a consultation -- increased, putting unnecessary burden on involved authors and other reviewers. I request that this workflow comes back to what it was previously. Thanks for your attention to this sentiment, and I hope to see your comments about it soon. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:00, 9 February 2026 (UTC) *:cc @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]], please reply now and tag 3 other users who weren't tagged previously, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:01, 9 February 2026 (UTC) *::There's quite a bit here and I'm not sure which three other users would even see this conversation who weren't already pinged. I can see some value in checking articles at the time of archiving to see if the process was followed optimally and maybe tagging the talk page somehow. This is more-or-less equivalent to how some proper news organizations operate, where they review their own published works and issue retractions, make corrections, etc. (it was only two days ago that I saw my feed for ''Mother Jones'' retract a story that they couldn't verify). So I agree in principle that it's worth us having an author-to-reviewer relationship that works at the time of publication and then if someone is motivated, an archiver-to-reviewer relationship. What that looks like may be an open question. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (ko'''a'''vf)]]❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯ 08:59, 9 February 2026 (UTC) *:::Hey @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] My question is whether you have noticed review standards got tougher than usual in the last year? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:28, 9 February 2026 (UTC) *::::Good question, but that is not something that I have personally experienced. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (ko'''a'''vf)]]❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯ 20:27, 9 February 2026 (UTC) *:::::Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 09:54, 10 February 2026 (UTC) *:::::Would you say there has been more discussions about review quality recently, than before? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 09:55, 10 February 2026 (UTC) == News schedule == Hello context * some radio have news highlight every day from 8am to 815am, and * some youtubers have $whatever new upload every week on Tuesday at noon local time. For example. As a result, Fans sweat sitting on top of their fingers in ancipation of the release on that schedule. proposal. * Could it perhaps be helpful to identify platform and format and method, to get this done here? ** Weekly, say one entry on blyesky with list of recent news over last week; and one entry via audio podcast i.e. youtube or audible or whatever has audio outputs? Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:16, 26 January 2026 (UTC) :pinging @[[User:NikosLikomitros|NikosLikomitros]] @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] @[[User:Sj|Sj]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Sbb1413|Sbb1413]] @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] @[[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] @[[User:RockerballAustralia|RockerballAustralia]] @[[User:Matthiasb|Matthiasb]] @[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] @[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] to name a few, as this output could include news from other languages. cc @[[User:Revi C.|Revi C.]], @[[User:Base|Base]] Hoping to hear your input and aim for first date of a first initial post on Feb-01 or thereabouts. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 01:45, 27 January 2026 (UTC) ::I didn't understand what exactly is being proposed? --[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] ([[User talk:Vyacheslav84|talk]]) 03:19, 28 January 2026 (UTC) :::* {{comment}} Not totally following the proposal/question, but I will say this: If an event happens '''and that event is newsworthy''' there should be some type of jetsam present that verifies it actually DID happen. Historically, an accredited reporter's notes are valid. e.g. "I watched this program/podcast/live stream on this date at this time and this thing happened then that thing happened' etc. etc. But, again, the EVENT must be newsworthy AND have solid sourcing. Because someone with the YouTube channel '''CoolDude47''' said a thing happened at his neighbor's house, that SOURCE may not be dense enough to be trustworthy. Know what I mean?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:24, 29 January 2026 (UTC) ::::*If I understand Gryllida's proposal correctly, it is that we could (a) post a weekly news roundup to Bluesky or a similar site and/or (b) post a weekly audio news roundup/"best of Wikinews" to YouTube or a similar website. At this stage, though, I don't think we are in a good position to do either of those. I'm concerned that casual readers/listeners might not realize that Wikinews's topic selection is constrained by what our contributors take the time to write as well as what our reviewers take the time to review. We're averaging much less than one new published article per day at this point, resulting in a collection of articles that could be politely described at best as "eclectic". --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 06:08, 30 January 2026 (UTC) ::::*:Correct; there's always a chance to add one short disclaimer at the beginning of the text or audio piece noting that "<name of the nickname for the Wikinews broadcast> is in beta and audience can add their news by going <here>" where <here> is a user friendly place to start. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:51, 30 January 2026 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] :::* I guess you are not familiar with the services similar to the ones i described in 'context' then. here is a wiki page about them: [[:w:PBS News Hour]]. basically they air themselves every evening at same time. :::* I am proposing Wikinews produces at least one text output and at least one audio output regularly, for example, weekly, and posts them '''at the same time of day''' on a certain day of week consistently. :::Hope this helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:48, 30 January 2026 (UTC) ::::I agree, but who will do it? --[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] ([[User talk:Vyacheslav84|talk]]) 14:43, 16 February 2026 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] one person can not do all news media so i suggest to have one person per one or two social media accounts. I created page [[Wikinews:Social media posters]] you can add your name there and name of a social media where you are going to post and under what nick. Important not to have 'Wikinews' in the account name there as this is a trademark and requires permissions from WMF. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:49, 16 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] Okay, thanks, I'll take a look! --[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] ([[User talk:Vyacheslav84|talk]]) 11:16, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::{{comment}} I mean -- it ''sounds cool'', but: '''getting it done.....'''. Know what I mean?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:13, 4 February 2026 (UTC) :::Hi [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] please see [[Wikinews:Social media posters]], if you have a friend with social media addiction, please point them to the page, thanks! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:18, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::{{comment}} It's been 14 days since we had a new article published. If our text and audio outputs were based on our new content over the past week (and they should be if we were to undertake those projects), that would mean we would have had to skip two weeks. With the risk that the Wikimedia Foundation might shut down Wikinews altogether, I think we need to focus on our primary mission of publishing news stories on this website rather than trying to take on projects in new formats. Keep in mind that reviewers/administrators would presumably have to take the time to review the text and audio outputs before they are released, and there aren't enough of them to even have the time to review all the articles that get submitted now. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 07:52, 5 February 2026 (UTC) :::14 days??? Why. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:12, 6 February 2026 (UTC) :::🫩 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:13, 6 February 2026 (UTC) :Concerns over the inability to regularly put out updates like this are well-founded, but I don't think a monthly update would be too much to ask for, and I believe it would put a sense of relevance back into WN. As said by others, the articles we currently publish are mainly based on contributors' interests and availability, which isn't always the most attractive to a general audience. Even 1-sentence updates or a collection of quotes from media would be better than nothing; there's so much going on in the world right now that there's always something readers urgently need to know, and I see it as a foundational step for building, maintaining and retaining an active readership. I would gladly take up this task, but of course it would be better if reviewer(s) are responsible so that the reviewing process can be skipped/streamlined. Not sure about the audio part, unless software/AI is used to turn a transcript into audio. I personally watch ''{{w|Last Week Tonight with John Oliver}}'' and ''{{w|Weekend Update}}'', so I believe in the attractiveness of such updates. [[User:HKLionel|HKLionel]] [[User talk:HKLionel|TALK]] 12:10, 12 February 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:HKLionel|HKLionel]] ::* I think submissions sized 100-150 words are the easiest to review, even if they do not possess much coverage value. That's the easiest way to get through the reviewing process. NOT MORE because it is pain to review. And not less because that is too short for pass. ::* There are three high quality submissions in queue. Each of them would take me a week to 'fully review'. Presumably, if I attempt one of them tonight, that will be an express review... ::Regards, - [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:59, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::Yes, so I suppose a coordinated effort by reviewers/making it the responsibility of a reviewer would make it more efficient. [[User:HKLionel|HKLionel]] [[User talk:HKLionel|TALK]] 16:23, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :I just had the thought that we could borrow from Wikipedia's [[w:WP:ITN|in the news]] and [[w:P:C|current events portal]]. [[User:HKLionel|HKLionel]] [[User talk:HKLionel|TALK]] 18:12, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::Borrow what? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:35, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :::Content for, as I suggested above, a monthly update. [[User:HKLionel|HKLionel]] [[User talk:HKLionel|TALK]] 01:28, 25 February 2026 (UTC) ::I also discovered [[:ja:ウィキニュース:短信]] (news bulletins). This is a format I'd like to see emulated. [[User:HKLionel|HKLionel]] [[User talk:HKLionel|TALK]] 02:39, 25 February 2026 (UTC) == Streak themed competition proposal == Propose to encourage a user to author and publish, or reviewer to review and publish, at least one story every two weeks. Like a [[:w:streak]]. At end of a competition period, suggest for 6 months (12 fortnights), the no. of maximum consecutive fortnights would be computed for each participant. For example, if I started and was major contributor to article on week 1, 3, 7, 9, 11, then my streaks are '1 and 3' (streak of 2), then '7 and 9 and 11' (streak of 3), I would score '3'. Top 10 participant would get a T-shirt or mug or some other object with a number (i.e. 'This user archived a 6 fortnight streak in English Wikinews in 2026' worded fancily and with fancy picture.) delivered to their desired postal address. Not sure how to fund this, but I think there may be a few people who want to donate to that purpose. if you wanted to donate please specify payment method. cc [[User:Pharos|Pharos]] as I think you might be able to get support from NYC for this perhaps. thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:02, 20 February 2026 (UTC) :created page [[Wikinews:2026 streak competition]] thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:12, 21 February 2026 (UTC) ::I think I could attempt this. [[User:CheatCodes4ever|Cheat]][[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|Codes]][[Special:Contributions/CheatCodes4ever|4ever]] ([[User:CheatCodes4ever/sandbox|sandbox]] | [[m:Special:CentralAuth/CheatCodes4ever|CentralAuth]]) 20:41, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] thank you, nice. 🙂 Is 'every 2 weeks' a good time frame? Or better 1 or 4 weeks? Whre do you think it could be funded from? Also, how long to run it for: 12 weeks or 24 weeks? Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:59, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] please add your name on that section [[Wikinews:2026_streak_competition#Interested_users|section 'interested users signup']] Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:25, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::::{{ping|Gryllida}} Two weeks sounds reasonable to me. [[User:CheatCodes4ever|Cheat]][[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|Codes]][[Special:Contributions/CheatCodes4ever|4ever]] ([[User:CheatCodes4ever/sandbox|sandbox]] | [[m:Special:CentralAuth/CheatCodes4ever|CentralAuth]]) 20:36, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :::::great thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:42, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :The prizes would probably need to be worked out later, but this is a great idea and I'm interested. [[User:HKLionel|HKLionel]] [[User talk:HKLionel|TALK]] 01:47, 25 February 2026 (UTC) == Install inline comments == https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InlineComments Could this be installed here? It would be easuer to use than the current system, where highlight is a pain to delete on visual editor, and comment is hidden on talk tab. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 10:11, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :I find it unlikely that devs will add it, considering the status of Wikinews. I support you making a ticket at [[:phab:]] if you feel like it's warranted. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (ko'''a'''vf)]]❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯ 17:23, 23 February 2026 (UTC) ::That would require consensus from the community. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 20:32, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :::thatas what i am asking about. would you support installation of such an extension here? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:43, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :::Which is why I was trying to provide my vote of approval. I did make that unclear, so I apologize: while I don't know that this will be successfully implemented, I am in favor of you requesting it pending others weighing in and a general consensus that others feel the same way. Again, sorry for suggesting that individuals unilaterally request new features. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (ko'''a'''vf)]]❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯ 21:39, 23 February 2026 (UTC) ::::yeah i got it [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:03, 23 February 2026 (UTC) ::lets see if using [[:w:Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation#inline_comments|enwp lever]] works. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:34, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :::They [[:w:Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Proposal_to_install_the_'Inline_comments'_MediaWiki_extension_for_Draft_namespace|are being quite positive, including PHP maintainership]], and suggest development of a gadget as prototype. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:59, 1 March 2026 (UTC) :Same as Justin, though the WP discussions don't seem promising. [[User:HKLionel|HKLionel]] [[User talk:HKLionel|TALK]] 01:53, 25 February 2026 (UTC) :Just to mention, it is not exactly like inline comments, but EzPR 2025 will include a feature called "Dynamic Marking" under the Sentence Marking section. When enabled, it will use a global gadget to load and display specific sentences that have been highlighted and marked by the reviewer on the article. :This is not fully implemented yet, the global script integration still needs to be completed. However, the idea is to provide a more dynamic approach to sentence-specific highlights and unsourced sentence marking.The data for each marked sentence, including its associated issue, will be stored on a JSON page. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:21, 28 February 2026 (UTC) ::Hi [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ::* I believe the dynamically marked comments, as currently implemented in EZPR2, have two disadvantages compared with the extension. First, they can be difficult to remove when working in the visual editor. Second, the extension provides a more user-friendly interface for replying to comments about a specific phrase in the article without having to switch to the talk page and back. ::* That said, one possible improvement to the extension would be to post a copy of the inline comment discussion to the article’s talk page when the comment is removed. This could be offered as an optional feature in the extension. At present, the discussion remains only in the article’s edit history, which may not be ideal, as the talk page is generally expected to serve as the central record of discussions about previous revisions of the article. ::Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:53, 28 February 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: I was not aware that there was interest in developing the extension as a gadget, which is, in my opinion, a much more practical and better approach. When the gadget is ready, I think we could also integrate it with EzPR 2025 to allow marking and commenting on specific text within an article. Therefore, I am dropping the Dynamic Marking approach within EzPR. :::Just to clarify regarding your comment: "''First, they can be difficult to remove when working in the visual editor.''" - I believe you may be referring to the current approach of wrapping text with templates. Dynamic Marking '''was not''' designed in that way; it was intended to function more like inline comments. Additionally, EN wikinews currently does not have the VisualEditor enabled. So even if that concern were valid, the current approach would not cause issues in this specific context. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 05:56, 1 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Actually, in Wikipedia there is a dying backlog queue of drafts for review, to create a new page in Wikipedia, users may often have to wait 2-6 months while page is sitting in Draft: namespace. So, I wanted to suggest the gadget separate, then it can be added to ENWP for draft review. For this space here in Wikinews, having the gadget installed there at ENWP could be a part of leverage to get the extension installed in Wikimedia wikis, including here, eventually. Knowing how ENWP centric the ecosystem is. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:33, 1 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Btw, inline comment doesn't show which phrase it was referring to, and neither does an inline citation. Only one cursor position. And inline comments were such a pain to edit in VE... For once they are not even visible until clicked or something. :( [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:34, 1 March 2026 (UTC) == Should we reconsider our stance on wikilinking == Our [[Wikinews:Style_guide#Wikilinking_an_article|Style guide states]] "Do not over-wikify articles. Link only particularly relevant background material." I believe the reasoning can be found in [[Wikinews:Categories#Wikilinks_and_redirects|this essay]], which states "Don't use wikilinks for basic information: a news article should stand on its own, understandable without consulting some other page along the way." As a community, I believe we have strayed from this practice considerably. A drift towards more wikilinking, in my opinion, is part of our broader drift from being a journalism project first to a wiki project first and a journalism project second. While over-wikilinking has not been an impediment to publication (that I'm aware of), it is something we should either be actively addressing (reducing) or something we should remove from our policies and guidelines. Please comment below how you feel about over-wikilinking and if you feel we should keep, remove, or update the recommendation. Justifying your response would be most helpful, but a simple !vote might suffice. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 15:27, 27 February 2026 (UTC) Some useful polling templates might be: *{{remove}} {{tl|remove}} *{{keep}} {{tl|keep}} *{{weak delete}} {{tl|weak delete}} *{{weak keep}} {{tl|weak keep}} === Comments === * {{keep}} especially for the lede. A link away from ''Wikinews'' is an invitation to stop reading our content and start reading someone else's. I also agree that the quality of our articles should be high enough that readers can fully understand the topic without going elsewhere for additional information. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 15:27, 27 February 2026 (UTC) *{{weak keep}} I am unsure if I have a passionate opinion here, but I will agree that the wikilinking has gotten a bit out of control. In the very least: most of our wikilinking should simply point to a new place at WN. This isn't Wikipedia. And: I '''2000% agree''' that we've lost our 'scope' of journalism first, wiki second. That is not even mentioning the 3,000 people involved with WMF that can only view us as a wiki ONLY. That has been a never ending war. Even some of us here: Admins etc. etc. -- we (including myself) sometimes get lost in the weeds on what is happening at this place: get the news, write the news, submit the news.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:32, 27 February 2026 (UTC) *:Just commenting what I see in this... *:* Obvious words like "cat" or "dog" are not supposed to be wikilinked. Not to point of wikilinking every second word in a page. *:* More complex names (for me it includes name of ''any'' US state, for instance, i never knew where they are and am not going to try to build a US map in my head, and many readers are overseas) that are not understood by foreigner or by someone new to that topic, could and should be wikilinked. *:* Adding a brief note to a thing is good. At some point I added a note like ", a state in east coast of United States," for something, for that reason. *:* Sport articles, for example, suffer a lot from lack of explanations. :S *:* Also this approach gave advantage that items that ''are'' wikilinked do, eventually in an utopic world when news writing is an everyday thing, become wikilinks to local categories about that event series or place or topic in ''news'' context, with a feed for that. For example there is no category "Dog". Or [[court]]. Or something. *:* If I removed a wikilink, I should probably feel compelled to either add a brief note or add a local news-feed (category) link. *:* A reviewer can do such minor chanhe if needed. *:* And I personally do not see any reason to change that policy in its current version. *:[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:00, 28 February 2026 (UTC) *{{weak delete}} Admittedly, having too many wikilinks looks bad. But we should not discourage Wikinews writers from including ''useful'' links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is our sister project, not a competitor. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 05:31, 28 February 2026 (UTC) *'''comment''' - There are two quotes that were mentioned, the style guide, which says "''"Do not over-wikify articles. Link only particularly relevant background material."''", and an under construction essay called "'''Categories'''", abandoned in 2021, which for reasons I can't quite figure out mentions wikilinks. When being asked "''Please comment below how you feel about over-wikilinking and if you feel we should keep, remove, or update the recommendation.''", it's not entirely clear what "the recommendation" is. Maybe I seem like I'm being obtuse but I'm having trouble interpreting all the !votes and figuring out where I stand on an issue presented as a simply yes/no question but that lacks the needed clarity. If just a comment is being sought, I can provide that of course. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 03:47, 10 March 2026 (UTC) == Software suggestion to notify all users eligible to vote == For requests regarding permission, removal of permission, or accreditation, I suggest developing a tool that notifies all eligible users and includes a link where they can provide comments, ask questions, and cast their vote; and with a note how they can opt out of receiving such messages (if desired). I believe similar tools have been used on other wikis, such as Commons or Meta. Since this wiki is relatively small and some recent requests have received very few votes for an extended period, such a tool could help increase participation and prevent discussions from remaining open indefinitely. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:40, 1 March 2026 (UTC) == Suggestion for [[Wikinews:Writing an article]] == At [[Wikinews:Writing an article#Starting out]], it says: :If the story has not been started, you can begin it by entering an appropriate title below and clicking "Create article". :Here are ''Wikinews'' [[Wikinews:Style guide#Headlines|article title rules and guidelines]]. I suggest that we add something like this to the above: "The article title should '''identify the news event''' that the article is about. A person's name alone, or a company name alone, should not be an article title." I am assuming that some people are indeed creating articles by starting from [[Wikinews:Writing an article]] but not reading the linked article title rules and guidelines (this assumption might be incorrect). That seems to be how we get such soon-to-be-deleted drafts as [[Rumi Von-Clarke]], [[Daud Muhammed]], and [[Zakariah gmb services]], all of which were tagged for speedy deletion on their second edits. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 14:13, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :I support this. That seems like a reasonable assumption. This might pull in a few contributors who get discouraged at first. I don't really follow them; what is the typical path a new editor who creates one of those articles takes? Do they stop editing? Silently? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:39, 6 March 2026 (UTC) ::I'm cool with that. I just hope new reporters read it. The '''event''' is the thing.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:52, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :Works for me. This could be a draft title, and when the user is ready to submit it for review, they can choose a better, more representative title if it is not already set. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:57, 6 March 2026 (UTC) == The future == I'll try to be quick here: We are a small village. There is a kind of poison that works its way in here at times -- people can (and do) begin treating this place as a general wiki, after they've been here for about 6 months. I am writing these words as encouragement, not to scold -- please note that. I am going to (for the remainder of 2026) focus very much on Reviewing and encouraging new reporters. This is a news site. We have policies and guidelines. I will try very hard to adhere to those -- and I ask all other people here to focus on that very thing. Good things ahead. [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:19, 6 March 2026 (UTC) == New tool for inline comments: DynamicMarking. == Hello, a new tool is now available that enables reviewers to attach inline comments to specific phrases in a draft article. This means phrases can be marked by a reviewer to highlight issues without actually editing the article. Phrases that have been marked will appear highlighted in yellow. Non-reviewers can view them, but they will not be able to edit or remove the attached comments or markings. However, users can mark a specific highlight as "resolved". This gadget allows users to quickly identify the exact text in an article that needs modification or changes. Reviewers using the EzPR2025 gadget for review will find the "Dynamic Marking" feature integrated into it. However, the tool can also be used independently of EzPR2025. Full documentation is available at: [[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)/DynamicMarking|WN:EzPR2025/Dynamic Marking]]. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 08:07, 14 March 2026 (UTC) == Review que == there are currently nibe articles in review que going stale. I cannot review ''any'' of them because I either wrote them or they're original research. Can someone please get going on a review? This site must publish one article per day to remain a viable destination. Also, I am not going to be able to volunteer any more time writing articles here if everything I wrote this week goes stale for no good reason. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:41, 20 March 2026 (UTC) : For me, the deeper issue is a difference in what level of quality we are trying to achieve. Our Policies and Guidelines were written by a generation aiming for a much higher standard than what the current generation, broadly speaking, appears willing or able to sustain. The way we are collectively navigating that gap is creating friction (to put it politely) and, in practice, a status quo of low output. : We need to resolve that tension. Either we reform our PaGs to reflect a more achievable standard, or we raise the quality of our work to meet them. : Given the ongoing friction, I find myself looking for other ways to contribute here, if at all. I know at least one other reviewer has expressed a similar view. : I believe this quality–output tension is a central factor behind the SPTF’s recommendation to close Wikinews. I understand the logic behind that recommendation: we have not yet demonstrated that a citizen journalism model can reliably and consistently sustain high output, high quality, and a meaningful wiki process all at the same time.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 16:04, 20 March 2026 (UTC) ::If there is a problem regarding the quality of my contributions to this project, then nobody has said anything about that to me whatsoever. I submit my articles in the best shape possible and I still feel like I have to make a scene just to get someone to even look at my submissions. This is starting to look like what I assumed was going to happen if I started reviewing -- me being expected to pick up the entire review workload -- because literally nothing will get published orherwise -- while my own submissions are just forgotten and left to rot in the review que, and hours of my personal time are just wasted. I believe this project has potential but I dont know how to proceed if nothing else is being done to fix the problem that multiple users have been bitching about for months'''. This project will be shut down if the status quo continues. ''' [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:41, 20 March 2026 (UTC) ::: There was no specific target in my earlier comment. I was speaking more generally about what feels like a broader tension on the project. ::: To clarify: it seems we may not all be applying the same review standard in practice. I’m not referring to you or anyone else ''specifically''. There appears to be some preference, broadly speaking, for getting articles published once they are “good enough,” even if not every statement has been explicitly checked against a source or clearly attributed, with the expectation that the wiki process can refine things later. ::: On the other hand, our existing policies and guidelines lean toward a stricter approach, where each statement is expected to be supported or removed before publication. That gap — between what the standards say and what is realistically being applied — is where I see a lot of the friction coming from. ::: I may be misreading that, but that’s the issue I was trying to point to. ::: On the concern about you being expected to carry the review workload, I’m not sure the recent activity reflects that. Publishing has been shared among a small group of reviewers, and you’ve been a significant part of that (thank you!), but not the sole contributor.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=review&user=&page=&excludetempacct=1&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B%5D=newusers&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 01:12, 21 March 2026 (UTC) ::::I understand enforcing the rigorous policies for quality control, I just feel there have been too many times where a reviewer has requested revisions after an article I authored has been submitted, the requested changes are promptly made, but the reviewer just goes radio silent immediately afterward and the articles just goes stale waiting for review. It's hard to really feel motivated to make revisions to or gatwick articles I write because they have mostly just been getting left to rot these past few months. I'm not sure the community understands how much human labor power is actually just being wasted due to this failed process. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:58, 21 March 2026 (UTC) :::::i published one, others to follow during the week if i manage [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 13:03, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :::::it was noted elsewhere that 'a few' reviewers are required for the site to work. like i woukd say around 2-3 is a bare minimum 💀 when only 1 or 2, then, very hard to get things moving. I will also try to write one during the week for you to review! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 13:05, 22 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:11, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] what is the issue with reviewing OR? Do you have scoop access? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 13:03, 22 March 2026 (UTC) ::I dont know how to verify sources with original research. How am I supposed to review an event or interview I did not attend? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:08, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :::you can cross check it against reporters notes. They are shared privately with scoop, an address that accredited reporters and reviewers can read. If you do not have a wn-reporters account, please email me with your desired username, and i will email you the login instructions. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 14:32, 22 March 2026 (UTC) ::::If it helps any, I have two stories currently waiting that are OR. [[Musique Libre Femmes plays for Women's History Month at Tompkins Square Library in New York City]] requires scoop access but I tried deliberately to make [[The Performance Space in New York City holds its annual gala honoring three artists]] verifiable using only the pictures I provided in the article and a few of the pre-event sources. This is even easier now, as since I wrote the material (immediately after it happened), some genuine sources have come out which also corroborate my OR (which I added).. So that one shouldn't be too difficult. I also made it deliberately short so we could publish it fast... [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:35, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :::::Are we able to publish OR ten days after the focal point event? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:45, 23 March 2026 (UTC) :::::: Generally, yes.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 01:31, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::How long do we have? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:40, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: Unfortunately, this is one of the many areas where there is no hard-and-fast rule. [[WN:Fresh]] merely states: :::::::: <blockquote>Exclusive content has the potential to extend our freshness horizon by days or even weeks, depending on the nature of the original material. </blockquote> :::::::: Somewhere there is a relatively recent discussion that involved MeDaWikipedian I believe, in which some consensus formed around eight weeks as a max limit. I'll find it but it might take some time.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 01:50, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: Not much of a consensus for 8 weeks, but it may still be useful to cite as recent precedent when defending publication of material up to that age: [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance/archives/2024/September#Photo exhibition “Ethnic features of the world people” took place in the Crimean capital]][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 02:14, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: If you'd like some advice on it, let me know what article you are talking about and what you're thinking as far as why it is still publishable. If you'd rather do it quietly, feel free to use wikimail or email.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 02:17, 24 March 2026 (UTC) == Proposal to auto-"stale" from review queue == If an article was submitted for review on day N, then on day N+8 could it automatically mark itself as stale? This could help clear out the queue from the old end. I picked number 8 because usually an article does not get published about events over seven days old; I may be deluded there so please adjust the number of days as needed. Alternatively, the "review" template could change to "abandoned" after 7 days. I am suggesting to get this decided and implemented some time soon. It would reduce the load on reviewers and sysops, in my opinion. Something similar was done for another template before, but I do not remember which. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:59, 24 March 2026 (UTC) == Improving review visibility and collaboration for draft articles == I propose increasing visibility and collaboration around drafts and their talk pages so more users can contribute to review and copyediting. That could help authors who aren’t keeping up with reviewer requests and would be more like a scientific journal process where at least two people check a page before publication. Since the software supports pre-reviews, we could encourage everyone to pre-review more broadly. Proposed actions: 1. Add a friendly site notice inviting users to join a “newsroom” and review at least one article per day. Link to a Newsroom guide explaining categories: Drafts = need pre-review, expand, submit for review Queue = possibly ready; check carefully and flag issues Disputed = issues found; fix and resubmit That page like [[Wikinews:Newsroom]] but a mini-version: with only one paragraph intro linking to key policies; three lists (draft, review, disputed) one paragraph before each; one list (published in last three days) also one para explaining process of improving or cross checking those. That could be more user friendly for newbies than the current "everything and a kitchen sink" current version. 2. On submission, automatically leave the user a message with a request to pre-review at least two pages from the Newsroom, again linking to its over simplified version, perhaps even transcluding it to the user's talk page (via subst, so only then-current version is included in the message) as then they do not need to open the Newsroom link to see the topics being written about in the new drafts. These steps should speed feedback to authors and surface more issues before publishing, and bring more hands to fix them. Hope this is helpful. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:10, 27 March 2026 (UTC) 3. At submission, present user a button "pre-review my own article" which is like pre-review process they do for article they just submitted. 2a. Example: [[User:Gryllida/MiniNewsroom]] --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:31, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :4. Add button "mark as stale" to the develop template. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:32, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Online workshop for training new reviewers == Hello everyone, to help increase the number of active reviewers on English Wikinews and support interested contributors in understanding the review process, I would like to propose organizing a structured, documentation-based online workshop. Given that live video sessions may not be feasible for many participants, this workshop would primarily be text-based and hosted on-wiki (with optional use of chat platforms for discussion). However, if any experienced reviewer is interested in contributing via a presentation or live session, that would certainly be welcome. The workshop would be divided into 4-5 sections, each focusing on a specific aspect of the reviewing process. These may include: * Introduction to the role and responsibilities of a reviewer * Core review criteria (newsworthiness, neutrality, verifiability, freshness, copyvio) * Source verification and common issues in articles * The review workflow (from submission to publication) * Post-publication review and maintenance Each section would include short explanatory materials (text, slides, or diagrams), followed by practical tasks. These tasks could include answering questions, identifying issues in sample articles, or performing a simulated review. Participants who complete the workshop should gain a clearer understanding of how reviewing works in practice. Rather than replacing the existing reviewer nomination process, the workshop could serve as a preparation pathway, helping participants build the skills and confidence needed before being nominated. Additionally, participants who demonstrate strong understanding during the workshop could be encouraged or mentored further as potential reviewer candidates. To keep the workshop effective, participation may be limited to a small group. We would likely need at least 2-3 experienced reviewers to help guide discussions, review responses, and provide feedback. I would be happy to help prepare materials such as slides, flowcharts, and example articles. I would appreciate the community's thoughts on this idea: Would such a workshop be useful? Would any reviewers be interested in helping organize or mentor participants? Are there improvements or alternative approaches we should consider? Thank you. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:12, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :*'''Support''' I would've started reviewing much sooner of there was something like this in place. Why there doesn't already exist something similar to this is beyond me. :[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:05, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :* I can also assist in creating JS-based interactive quizzes, annotation projects, a peer review comment writing playground, and other interactive tools for the workshop, which I think will make it more engaging and fun. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 17:37, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :*:That seems good but is being hindered by needing to process [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard#Board_of_Trustees_Approves_Closure_of_Wikinews the hosting change]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == The last Wikinews article == Since the site will be frozen after May 4, I would like to suggest that we plan to have the top headline on the last day be something along the lines of "Wikinews closes after 21 years; community moves to Miraheze" or something like that. If the top headline is going to be permanently in place after that, it ought to be something that commemorates the ending of Wikinews. I wouldn't want the headline that the site has to live with permanently to be something like "Small town car accident results in nearly $200 in damage, no injuries". Of course, this presumes that we can have an article commemorating the site's closure ready and approved on May 3, but it will also require the cooperation of reviewers not to put something else in the lead headline position at the last minute. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 14:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :{{Support}}: I think this could be some type of original report. Even if a full article is not possible, I do think we should leave a message on the main page. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:17, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :{{support}} I proposed the same elsewhere (after you did). —[[User:Koavf|Justin (ko'''a'''vf)]]❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯ 00:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :[[Wikinews closes after 21 years]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (ko'''a'''vf)]]❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯ 00:24, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{Support}} But: it will a long time before I come back here. Not being ugly about it. Maybe Michael can publish it. I'm about to sign out.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 02:07, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :{{Neutral}} Don't care. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:24, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Not sure if we 100% are moving to other host, though we should prep the article already, and post by May 3 -- should there be any changes, we do it before the project is RO (read-only). If someone is up for writing it -- I shall be there to review it. PS: please come to IRC, if you all can. [[User talk:Acagastya|•–•]] 09:37, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::: I think the article would greatly benefit from someone from the previous generation of contributors to write about how the modern review process came about, the various journalism schools/classes we worked with at the time, etc. That time was our peak in regards to readership and activity and is therefore the most consequential for us as a project. ::: I know @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] has links to external sites which praised the work of en.WN during those periods. Those could/should be used as sources, quoted, etc. ::: See: [[Wikinews closes after 21 years]][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 06:48, 4 April 2026 (UTC) == Future stewardship of Wikinews == As per [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Public_consultation_about_Wikinews#c-Sj-20260401032800-Victoria-20260330090000 this comment] by @[[User:Sj|Sj]], Wikimedia NYC and task force members are discussing the possible stewardship of Wikinews by [[meta:Wikimedia New York City]]. Also ping: @[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:56, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Proposal to cease publishing after around April 14 == Hello, as resources are required for migration, I am proposing to set a date after which articles will not be published. Maybe around mid-April. Then, a week later, clear the review queue and finish any maintenance tasks and walk away. Then this would leave around two weeks to setup a new site. Otherwise, I am concerned migration will be under-resourced. cc @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] who quite rightfully in my opinion wrote [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ASupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_Christians_of_crimes_against_the_humanity_of_gays_and_lesbians_in_a_landmark_ruling&diff=5003903&oldid=5003259 that]. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:06, 5 April 2026 (UTC) *If there is time to get new articles published during the second half of April, I think it should be allowed. The migration may be a more important priority, but not all the admins will necessarily be involved with that nor will it necessarily take up all their time. We are still getting submissions, albeit not many good ones. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 17:23, 7 April 2026 (UTC) anffxg06fqbisb0nvoe1dg54bxlvbtw Template:Stock Market data 10 113527 5005727 5005390 2026-04-07T12:01:03Z BOT-Superzerocool 18821 Bot: Update Market Data [[:es:User Talk:Superzerocool|Comments (es.wikinews)]] 5005727 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Stock Markets | date = 07 April, 2026 | hour= 12:00 | extrainfo= {{{extrainfo|}}} | align = {{{align}}} | width= {{{width|{{#if:{{{width|}}}|50%|35%}}}}}} | country= {{{country}}} | IBEX 35 = #N/A | IBEX 35-c = #N/A | IBEX 35-p = #N/A | IBEX 35-tl = {{loss}} | FTSE 100 = 10424.24 | FTSE 100-c = -12.05 | FTSE 100-p = -0.12 | FTSE 100-tl = {{loss}} | DAX = 23112.33 | DAX-c = -55.75 | DAX-p = -0.24 | DAX-tl = {{loss}} | SMI = 12948.75 | SMI-c = -33.22 | SMI-p = -0.26 | SMI-tl = {{loss}} | AEX = 977.43 | AEX-c = 1.57 | AEX-p = 0.16 | AEX-tl = {{profit}} | BEL20 = 5230.48 | BEL20-c = 14.04 | BEL20-p = 0.27 | BEL20-tl = {{profit}} | OMX Stockholm 30 = 2983.56 | OMX Stockholm 30-c = -22.81 | OMX Stockholm 30-p = -0.76 | OMX Stockholm 30-tl = {{loss}} | Nasdaq = 21996.34 | Nasdaq-c = 117.16 | Nasdaq-p = 0.54 | Nasdaq-tl = {{profit}} | S&P 500 = 6611.83 | S&P 500-c = 29.14 | S&P 500-p = 0.44 | S&P 500-tl = {{profit}} | Bovespa = 188161.97 | Bovespa-c = 109.95 | Bovespa-p = 0.06 | Bovespa-tl = {{profit}} | All Ordinaries = 8921.20 | All Ordinaries-c = 146.30 | All Ordinaries-p = 1.67 | All Ordinaries-tl = {{profit}} | Nikkei = 53429.56 | Nikkei-c = 15.88 | Nikkei-p = 0.03 | Nikkei-tl = {{profit}} | Hang Seng = 25116.53 | Hang Seng-c = -177.50 | Hang Seng-p = -0.70 | Hang Seng-tl = {{loss}} | BSE Sensex = 74616.58 | BSE Sensex-c = 509.73 | BSE Sensex-p = 0.69 | BSE Sensex-tl = {{profit}} | IDX Composite = 6971.03 | IDX Composite-c = -18.40 | IDX Composite-p = -0.26 | IDX Composite-tl = {{loss}} }}<noinclude>{{clear}}{{documentation}}</noinclude> 6ccxd1e0z6k55nyd836f6ztfuop3ign 5005871 5005727 2026-04-08T00:00:33Z BOT-Superzerocool 18821 Bot: Update Market Data [[:es:User Talk:Superzerocool|Comments (es.wikinews)]] 5005871 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Stock Markets | date = 08 April, 2026 | hour= 00:00 | extrainfo= {{{extrainfo|}}} | align = {{{align}}} | width= {{{width|{{#if:{{{width|}}}|50%|35%}}}}}} | country= {{{country}}} | IBEX 35 = #N/A | IBEX 35-c = #N/A | IBEX 35-p = #N/A | IBEX 35-tl = {{loss}} | FTSE 100 = 10348.79 | FTSE 100-c = -87.50 | FTSE 100-p = -0.84 | FTSE 100-tl = {{loss}} | DAX = 22921.59 | DAX-c = -246.49 | DAX-p = -1.06 | DAX-tl = {{loss}} | SMI = 12790.35 | SMI-c = -191.62 | SMI-p = -1.48 | SMI-tl = {{loss}} | AEX = 971.88 | AEX-c = -3.98 | AEX-p = -0.41 | AEX-tl = {{loss}} | BEL20 = 5207.16 | BEL20-c = -9.28 | BEL20-p = -0.18 | BEL20-tl = {{loss}} | OMX Stockholm 30 = 2967.92 | OMX Stockholm 30-c = 2.23 | OMX Stockholm 30-p = 0.08 | OMX Stockholm 30-tl = {{profit}} | Nasdaq = 22017.85 | Nasdaq-c = 21.51 | Nasdaq-p = 0.10 | Nasdaq-tl = {{profit}} | S&P 500 = 6616.85 | S&P 500-c = 5.02 | S&P 500-p = 0.08 | S&P 500-tl = {{profit}} | Bovespa = 188258.90 | Bovespa-c = 96.94 | Bovespa-p = 0.05 | Bovespa-tl = {{profit}} | All Ordinaries = 9157.50 | All Ordinaries-c = 236.30 | All Ordinaries-p = 2.65 | All Ordinaries-tl = {{profit}} | Nikkei = 53429.56 | Nikkei-c = 15.88 | Nikkei-p = 0.03 | Nikkei-tl = {{profit}} | Hang Seng = 25116.53 | Hang Seng-c = -177.50 | Hang Seng-p = -0.70 | Hang Seng-tl = {{loss}} | BSE Sensex = 74616.58 | BSE Sensex-c = 509.73 | BSE Sensex-p = 0.69 | BSE Sensex-tl = {{profit}} | IDX Composite = 6971.03 | IDX Composite-c = -18.40 | IDX Composite-p = -0.26 | IDX Composite-tl = {{loss}} }}<noinclude>{{clear}}{{documentation}}</noinclude> j0q5hrn57opty7ctylxr5f6x5kbs2e7 User talk:Gryllida 3 142283 5005763 5005607 2026-04-07T15:01:33Z Revibot I 1627724 Bot: Archiving 1 thread (older than 30 days) to [[User talk:Gryllida/Archive 1]] 5005763 wikitext text/x-wiki {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = User talk:Gryllida/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(30d) |counter = 1 |maxarchivesize = 192K |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 0 |archiveheader = {{talkarchivenav}} }} One page archive: [[User talk:Gryllida/Archive]]; [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gryllida&oldid=4531592 Discussions made in 2019 (old revision)]. == BOM == I've spent all of 20 seconds looking at that -- why would that not be stale at this time??--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:01, 20 March 2026 (UTC) :There was more information obtained from a source recently. Talk page and scoop has details. Published sources do not have it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:58, 21 March 2026 (UTC) == Stevie Young of AC/DC == I'm not planning to do anything more with [[AC/DC guitarist Stevie Young admitted to hospital in Buenos Aires, spokesperson says]], but I wanted to let you know that according to https://ultimateclassicrock.com/ac-dc-stage-return/ he has returned to performing with the band after being released from the hospital. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 13:30, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :Good to hear. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:44, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Central discussion page on Meta-Wiki == I think it's now time to create a central page on Meta-Wiki for discussions related to the migration of Wikinews and its different language editions. Would you like to start that page and also notify the Russian Wikinews community about it? [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:09, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :Russian Wikinews already knows snd got a thread about it in their forum. I do not think I have the capacity to open discussion at Meta, sorry, I am needing some sleep right now. I am hoping someone does it within next few hours, if not, then I will write something. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Sure. I am suggesting a central place so that, even after Wikinews becomes read-only, we can continue our discussions on Meta about what needs to be done next. [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:31, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: I have started a Meta page for a central discussion about the migration, including participation from other language editions of Wikinews. This will also allow discussions to continue after the Wikinews sites become read-only on May 4. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:59, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :::Link? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::::[[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]] [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 05:24, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Reviewing my very first ever Wikinews article == Would you mind reviewing [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts Christians of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians in a landmark ruling|my very first ever Wikinews article]], since the previous reviewer was unable to complete reviewing it? Thank you so much in advance! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 17:42, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] :1. That review was completed. I revised the page and re-submitted for review. :2. I posted [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Proposal_to_cease_publishing_after_around_April_14|this]]. :Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:13, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], will you be reviewing the article? [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 16:34, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :::I restored my previous edits and resubmitted for review. It's stale but they might make an exception. It's worth a try. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:31, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::::i published it, it looks a lot better than the previous version and it checks out well against the sources. thanks to you both for the revision. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] and @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]]. regards [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:34, 6 April 2026 (UTC) :::::Thank you so much, I am so glad we were able to see this through. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:38, 6 April 2026 (UTC) ::::::Thank you to @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] and @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] as well as @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] and @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]]! I put a lot of work into the article, so I'm very happy to see it published! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:55, 6 April 2026 (UTC) == Sighting changes == I am working through the list of unsighted changes ahead of the [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. A number of these edits appear to be yours and relate to the use of a script that marked articles as ‘archived’ without bringing them into compliance with [[Wikinews:Archive conventions]]. Some also appear to have left routine changes (such as protection updates) unsighted. Could you review these and bring them into compliance where needed? It would also be helpful if you could revisit the articles in [[:Category:Archived by Gryllida]] and complete the [[Wikinews:Archive conventions|archiving process]] where applicable.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 12:59, 6 April 2026 (UTC) :I don't think it will be worth of my time. It is better if someone else does it. I do not have the energy to negotiate what the 'correct' requirements are. The only thing I would be able to do is to edit protect them. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:12, 6 April 2026 (UTC) m5xx3pjfvjj7vrb3g8m9f66gs7c4wuf User talk:KaziHasanTuhin 3 885839 5005934 4236942 2026-04-08T07:43:17Z Svartava 2843302 Svartava moved page [[User talk:Mr Kazi Tuhin]] to [[User talk:KaziHasanTuhin]]: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/Mr Kazi Tuhin|Mr Kazi Tuhin]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/KaziHasanTuhin|KaziHasanTuhin]]" 4236942 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Kazistrong}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 11:02, 27 October 2013 (UTC) ij839qd7l79h2jlpx2bue2ba2s649q4 User talk:Meneliq 3 1922421 5005837 3234669 2026-04-07T20:18:56Z Litlok 130910 Litlok moved page [[User talk:Abdallahbigboy]] to [[User talk:Meneliq]]: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/Abdallahbigboy|Abdallahbigboy]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/Meneliq|Meneliq]]" 3234669 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Abdallahbigboy}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 18:22, 12 February 2015 (UTC) mgxecnbm2aehlz3w52v40c7ywp3c7ar User talk:Justthefacts 3 2840066 5005733 5005570 2026-04-07T12:41:30Z BigKrow 2871522 /* Hi */ Reply 5005733 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Justthefacts9}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 11:52, 8 April 2018 (UTC) == Welcome!!! == {{welcome}} @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:08, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Wikinews-Miraheze == Hi im trying to revive Wikinews here... https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/78142 Thanks. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :How many news wikis are you starting? [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:51, 6 April 2026 (UTC) == Hi == i have a news fandom you might like? @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:52, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :How many news wikis are you starting? [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:51, 6 April 2026 (UTC) ::Check out my Fandom News Wiki. https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki ::@[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 12:41, 7 April 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Supreme Court of Finland makes crimes against humanity convictions in landmark ruling]] (April 6) == Hi, all, I am sending this message to all contributors to the article. News is over a week old but I am publishing. The headline could be better but there is so much controversy about how to put it properly that I am content with the current revision. Overall as a piece of feedback, it is necessary to be more factual and as much as possible insert facts rather than qualitative characterizations. I believe this has substantially improved in the last few days as the article has been revised. Thank you. I have read the talk page and I believe the concerns there have been satisfactorily addressed in the recent edits and in the resulting current revision. Copyright check passed flagging only the quote(s) included in the text. '''I am recommending to add a sentence about expected consequence (fine, jail time) or if it is unknown then, when is this expected to be determined. If you could please make this change within 24 hours, then it could be sighted and be included in the report.''' Thanks a lot. ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:33, 6 April 2026 (UTC) :Thank you! I put a lot of work into that article, so I'm very happy to see you publish it! 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In future, would you be able to create a bot which archives the sources and external links? [[User talk:Acagastya|•–•]] 16:01, 30 July 2020 (UTC) :Maybe we could use [[w:User:InternetArchiveBot]] which does the same task and runs on more than one wiki. It is written in PHP. [[User talk:Acagastya|•–•]] 23:22, 30 July 2020 (UTC) ::i will check it out [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:27, 27 August 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Acagastya|Acagastya]] would such bot be allowed in wikimedia toolforge? External articles are not freely licensed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:13, 15 October 2024 (UTC) == ??? == Can you clarify a bit about this ''Welcome a bit''?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC) :Hi Bddpaux, it sends you email notifications about new article submissions - either to the 'develop' or 'review' or 'published' queues. You can choose a set of categories (eg 'Australia' or 'Politics') to limit the tracking only to these categories and not to all of them. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:51, 18 June 2021 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] would you like to sign up? I'm trying to implement this more in wiki software [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance#Mailing_lists|here]]. Please let me know how this works for you? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:26, 15 October 2024 (UTC) == WelcomeABit == Hi Gryllida I'd like to sign up for the [[User:Gryllida/welcome a bit|welcome-a-bit]] notifications. Here are my preferences: * '''Article status ('published' or 'developing' or 'review')''': * '''Topics (comma separated)''': * '''Delivery type ('email' or 'wiki')''': --[[User:2006nishan178713|2006nishan178713]][[User talk:2006nishan178713|t@lk]] 04:03, 1 February 2022 (UTC) :Are you still interested? Can you provide more details? Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:32, 27 August 2024 (UTC) == Facebook again == Hi Gryllida, good to see you're back. I sent you an email around mid-November asking if you're still able to post to the Facebook page, and if so if you could post an acknowledgement of the situation with it. Could you look into this when you've time, please? Thanks. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 17:18, 13 December 2023 (UTC) :Hi, do you mean "Hi all, we have spam in our Stories section, we are investigating. Unfortunately we have to go through the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) and it may take several weeks. Sorry for the inconvenience" message? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:20, 13 December 2023 (UTC) ::Yep. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 04:08, 14 December 2023 (UTC) :::Can see only button to 'Create a fundraiser' or reply to DMs. I think I don't have access to create a new post. If there's a volunteer interested happy to do screen sharing and show you what features are available to me, maybe I am not looking in the right place... [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:14, 15 December 2023 (UTC) :Was this resolved? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:36, 27 August 2024 (UTC) == Hello == It's been a while. Could you please move [[User talk:ICameHereForNews]] to [[User talk:CheatCodes4ever]]? [[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] ([[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|talk]]) 10:38, 14 December 2023 (UTC) :They both have a page history, would you like the [[User talk:CheatCodes4ever]] page to be deleted together with all of its history to allow for the page move? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:09, 15 December 2023 (UTC) ::Yes. [[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] ([[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|talk]]) 00:16, 15 December 2023 (UTC) ::Hello? [[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] ([[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|talk]]) 10:10, 21 December 2023 (UTC) :::[[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]]: I suggest you ask at [[WN:Admin action alerts]] to direct your request toward all admins and probably get a faster response. I'm not an admin, but I don't think it would be acceptable to move one account's user page to another even if they're operated by the same person (it seems whether these ''are'' operated by the same person ought to be indicated anyway). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 16:39, 22 December 2023 (UTC) ::::Was it discussed at AAA? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:13, 26 June 2024 (UTC) == Bureaucrat?? == I actually want to re-assume this role.... Can you make that happen?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 22:37, 24 May 2024 (UTC) :Missed the entire discussion. I will review it at earliest opportunity and get back to you. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC) == My wikinewsie email == Acagastya asked (at their talk page) for you to press some buttons so I can re-connect with my email account over there. I've totally lost my password for that account and imagine I have ten million emails.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 02:44, 13 June 2024 (UTC) :My VPS died and I don't have access at present. @[[User:Acagastya|Acagastya]] please send me an email and I will reply with my pubkey. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:07, 26 June 2024 (UTC) == WelcomeABit == Hi Gryllida I'd like to sign up for the [[User:Gryllida/welcome a bit|welcome-a-bit]] notifications. Here are my preferences: * '''Article status ('published' or 'developing' or 'review')''': developing * '''Topics (comma separated)''': 1. Wars 2. Science/Tech Stories 3. US Politics * '''Delivery type ('email' or 'wiki')''': TBC (This is my note for Me Da Wikipedian) --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:54, 29 August 2024 (UTC) == sxw files discussion == Lost the link, if someone finds it, please post it here... [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:36, 30 August 2024 (UTC) == Email??? == Did you read my response? I really need to be able to get into my WN email account to do some work.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:31, 30 August 2024 (UTC) == Mpox article == I would love to review this article, but the notes were sent to Scoop -- I cannot access my WN email account. That is a major problem. This has to be rectified.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:19, 5 September 2024 (UTC) :I have been trying to reach Acagastya for two weeks to get access to the mail server now. :Apologies for the delay. He provided me access but I did not setup my access to it from all my devices. One of my devices died and we have this situation now. :Internally we should have a Wikinewsie/wn-reporters wiki. We had one before. It could be good to put cell numbers of key users with privileged access into such an internal wiki one day. Would you agree? :I will keep you updated. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:15, 6 September 2024 (UTC) ::Yeah, the internal space was nice. But: We need the 'formal' email space we've had. --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:36, 6 September 2024 (UTC) == Familiar? mpox article == In written form this may come across as snitty (so please don't take it that way) -- but as a Reviewer (Editor), I don't think one really needs to be familiar with a topic to review/publish an article appertaining... one just needs to know the rules about what does/doesn't work around here. Don't want to scold you for not reviewing something, while I am busily not reviewing it myself -- I am just curious about your thinking.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 00:30, 17 September 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] I find myself more successful in digging sources, for hours at times, for some topics but not for others. Weather and crime events, and local news, are in the former category. I find it unfortunately very difficult to work outside of this small list of topics. I don't, for example, know, nor can remember quickly, that WHO has a chairperson or some structure in it that votes on things; I can easily misuse or misplace their names. Reviewing a story with new vocabulary takes me two or three times as much time (which is my current environment comes in blocks of 5 minutes, rather often not a whole free hour, not to mention two, due the surrounding noise.) I don't know whether that's normal or not. It would be interesting for me to know whether other reviewers have such stronger and weaker topics also, or not. I am happy to clarify as desired. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:32, 17 September 2024 (UTC) == subscribe == [[Category:Gryllida/notify/new/develop]] [[Category:Gryllida/notify/new/review]] [[Category:Gryllida/notify/new/publish]] Category:Gryllida/notify/new/develop [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:18, 11 October 2024 (UTC) == We need Three active Wikimedians to join us on Wikimedians of Art Outreach User Group == Please, l need two active Wikimedians to join our Wikimedians of Art Outreach Users group. Very urgent. Please help me to recommend two active editors for our User Group? Three active Wikimedians. 1. Olusola David, Ayibiowu 2. 3. Visit: https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Art_Outreach_User_Group#Objectives [[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]] ([[User talk:EduEditorsNG|talk]]) 12:14, 15 October 2024 (UTC) == Review of article == I didn't want to 'not-ready' the [[Heavy rains hit Southern India]] article again in hopes that you can quickly fix it for publication. See the [[Talk:Heavy_rains_hit_Southern_India#Orange_and_red_alerts|talk page]] for more. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]) 13:57, 18 October 2024 (UTC) :Thanks. I've replied on article talk page. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:21, 19 October 2024 (UTC) == Help me to add My profile photo in Wikinews == [[File:Olusola_David_Ayibiowu.png|thumb|Olusola David, Ayibiowu my profile photo.]] this is photo link on Appropedia https://www.appropedia.org/File:Olusola_David_Ayibiowu.png [[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]] ([[User talk:EduEditorsNG|talk]]) 15:08, 20 October 2024 (UTC) == If you can == Please proof my recent review: [[Bruce Lehrmann judge said to have no links to published book of judgement]]. Thanks. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]) 21:19, 21 October 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] I've revised for [[WN:IP|inverted pyramid]] and didn't sight my edit; please check? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:08, 21 October 2024 (UTC) == Quantas article == Because I know you prefer getting pinged here; I have reviewed [[Qantas Australian airline employees strike for better wages]] and posted in the talk page. At 97 words, it was too short to publish but I hoped I could expand it enough without becoming involved. However, there are other, unsourced statements that if removed, would render the article too short for publication. Details at the talk page. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]) 15:47, 23 October 2024 (UTC) :thanks for ping working on it now [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:14, 23 October 2024 (UTC) == test == 1 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:27, 30 October 2024 (UTC) == New open poll, request to update sitenotice == I have opened a new poll here: [[Wikinews_talk:2024 Copyright license upgrade#Set date of actual upgrade (a poll)]]. Can you update the sitenotice (the banner at the top of all pages that currently says "Wikinews is written by people like you..." to point to the open poll and encourage people to discuss and vote on it? It is an urgent vote on a long-standing project. Thank you in advance. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]) 18:44, 13 November 2024 (UTC) :ok i will do it soon [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:06, 14 November 2024 (UTC) :done and I asked you a question about the licence. :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC) == One more time, please....... == What was the browser/email client you'd recommended I download/use to start receiving my wikinews emails?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:32, 27 November 2024 (UTC) :[[:w:Thunderbird]], please test for both receiving and sending emails :once working please let me know and send screenshot of your settings to @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] as he got email access ages ago but is not able to send emails :thanks @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] :have a good day [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:06, 28 November 2024 (UTC) ::OK. Thank you. And: I don't use Mozilla Firefox -- will that cause problems?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:50, 5 December 2024 (UTC) :::Firefox does not have an email client in it. We currently do not have webmail installed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:14, 5 December 2024 (UTC) == Regarding the request at AAA == Recently you said this at WN:AAA[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Admin_action_alerts&diff=prev&oldid=4806323]: {{tq|Thank you for your help AramilFeraxa. For Michael.C.Wright's reference, I am a local sysop and I may be able to assist quickly, I only need clearer instructions what needs to be done and up to two days to respond. Seems like a non urgent issue and I had no idea what steps are needed. If anything is needed in future a request can be made here with specific instructions.}} Are you suggesting that I did not give local admins an opportunity to take action on the request? I initially made the request at AAA six days ago, explicitly so that any admin, whether global or local (yourself included), could respond. However, no local admin addressed it until after a global sysop stepped in to assist. It is counter-productive to ask global sysops to step back when local admins are not addressing the workload. We have been requesting assistance from local admins since July[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Admin_action_alerts&diff=prev&oldid=4791936]] to make necessary edits to edit-protected pages for the upgrade project, and those tasks still remain unfinished. If your schedule does not permit making the edits yourself, could you consider temporarily removing or downgrading the edit protection on the listed[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:2024_Copyright_license_upgrade#Pages_to_update_when_license_is_updated_from_2.5_to_4.0] pages? That would allow me to complete the changes and move the project forward. Thank you for your attention to this matter, and I appreciate any steps you can take to help resolve this. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]) 14:56, 28 November 2024 (UTC) :Hi Michael.C.Wright :Thank you for asking me. :* It isn't Wikipedia, if it is not vandalism then waiting more than six days is fine. I would have seen the message eventually. Possibly on a weekend. :* I am not sure how I am supposed to follow the page. I managed to subscribe to receive notifications about recent changes by joining 'en.wikinews' live chat on Wikimedia IRC network. There is a bot that outputs each recent change. However, this is too much for me to read on my busier days. It would be nice if there was a way to receive notifications of new edits on-wiki, with each notification being given a priority (for example, messages which ping me or are on my personal talk page or are on AAA are 'very high'; messages or edits to articles I watch are 'high'; everything else is 'average'). I haven't seen any way how this can be achieved. So my responses are spotty for now and I welcome any assistance in the setup. :* For the above reason, highlighting me or leaving me a message could help. (I'm two weeks behind on my echo notifications, but yet this is going to likely be something that I read among first items on my list when I am less busy.) :* I don't know what you want me to do. One option is to downgrade protection. What is the other option? What edits can I possibly make myself? The link in "downgrading the edit protection on the listed[3] page" contains a long discussion and does not include a list of pages I can immediately act on. :Thank you again. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 17:56, 28 November 2024 (UTC) == Request for the license upgrade project == I have made a request here: [[Wikinews_talk:2024_Copyright_license_upgrade#Pages_to_update]]. I am posting here as you have previously preferred. I will also notify you via IRC. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]) 17:04, 3 December 2024 (UTC) == Why... == Are you publishing articles without updating the ledes? It's a necessary step, I'm just wondering if there's something preventing you from doing it. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 20:33, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :Tried to do it a few times this year and got bored after updating the first two ledes. I did complete it that time, but did not want to do the procedure again. :It would be much better if the software updated all five ledes in one go, not on separate actions. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:17, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :I did it twice yesterday, and honestly such a royal boring pain to bear with. :-( [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:58, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :Wow, I accidentally clicked one of the entries listed in MakeLead and it actually filled it in as news title for making the lead. I was previously typing its first two-three words manually into the box each time and waiting for autocomplete of the title. The clicking is so much easier. I'm happier about the process now. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:10, 10 December 2024 (UTC) == Hi == Hi, thank you for taking the time to review and publish my work! I really appreciate it. I've started putting inline citations on everything to maybe help the reviewing process go quicker and easier for you. Let me know if there's anything else I can do to reduce workload in the review process, or if there are any recurring learner's mistakes in my work that I am not seeing. Have a good day!! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:07, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] :-) About inline citations via {{tl|Verify}}: :* Wikinews never did. They appeared when [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] started reviewing as far as I know. :* They are not an official policy. :* Published articles do not have them. :* I don't use inline citations. I delete them. I am going to fact check a sentence against all sources, so having an inline citation next to it does not help me. :* If it is essential that a particular piece comes from a particular source, it is best to spell it out in text. :* (This also leaves an option to do audio Wikinews, which is kind of like radio. I don't know where that went, I'm going to work on it on the holidays. Citations are not audible while 'BBC reported that...' is.) :For reducing load: :* include image credit :* write in past tense :* visit [[Newsroom]] and edit others' submissions for NPOV, copyvio, [[WN:IP|inverted pyramid]], etc :* find your peers who are keen to spend a lot of time online and enjoy reading, and invite them here :* you're welcome to join [[WN:IRC|live chat]] (my nick is 'gry' there) :Let me know if you have any further questions. :-) :Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:36, 8 December 2024 (UTC) ::Thanks! I noticed that the inline citations got removed from the finished articles, I guess my thought process was that each individual claim would be easier to check and verify if it had the link right next to it. I think it could also make it easier to identify any copyright issues that need fixed in the article. Thanks!! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:50, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :::Sounds good. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:54, 8 December 2024 (UTC) ::::{{ping|Gryllida|Lofi Gurl}} {{tl|verify}} is indeed a tool to help both authors and reviewers in ensuring all information is sourced. Some reviewers will recommend hidden, HTML comments, which I have used in the past as an author. Attributing in prose is of-course highly recommended and often necessary, but can't be done for every single statement. While every single statement must be sourced and verifiable, per [[WN:Source]]. ::::I made the template specifically to help alleviate [[User:Michael.C.Wright/sandbox/The problem|the problems caused by too few active reviewers]], namely the time and effort required to review articles, which can often be more difficult than actually writing an article. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]) 15:14, 9 December 2024 (UTC) :::::I don't use this tool. I read through each source to verify each sentence. When I see it in articles I review, I delete the 'verify' templates blindly as a first edit. Just a FYI I don't recommend all authors to use it; if it is essential that a claim came from a specific source this needs to be written in text. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:26, 9 December 2024 (UTC) == This story stale? == https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Male_taken_in_after_a_driving_problem_has_shooting_in_Boston%E2%80%99s_South_End_neighborhood, thank you, i just don't want to continue writing if there is no point. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:51, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :Technically "anything within last 7 days" is considered passable currently which was done as a last resort when the were lack of reviewers. There is a strong preference to fresher events, of course. May be best to write it shorter (just the 5Ws and ensure minimal length is met) if you would like to help the review to be quicker. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:56, 8 December 2024 (UTC) ::{{w|Gryllida}}, {{w|Lofi Gurl}} ::Gry, '''Lofi Gurl''' has helped greatly. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:59, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :::Thanks Lofi Gurl. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:01, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == My BBC source in the Syria article == Can you check the way I formatted the authors in that reference and let me know if it can be improved in any way? I have the article submitted for review. {{unsigned|Lofi Gurl}} :Feras Kilani missing. :They wrote "M and O, with B and F and L in Damascus" because I guess the last three are on-site. This does not matter for the source template. :"Matt Spivey, Owen Amos, Barbara Plett Usher, Feras Kilani, Lina Sinjab" maybe OK? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:37, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == I have a question about copyright == Am I required to give photo credit on works that are public domain? Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 22:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC) :not required, but you can anyway if you want :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:32, 8 December 2024 (UTC) == The year 2024 == Hi! I think someone on another language version asked me if English Wikinews would make an article about the change of license. But I could not find that message again. I imagine that usually articles are about things that happen outside Wiki, but perhaps some people would be interested in reading about Wiki too. I do not know if you have thought about it or if there is usually an article about the past year. Merry Christmas! [[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 09:59, 26 December 2024 (UTC) :Hi MGA73. (I am mostly away until the end of this week.) This isn't fresh now...; could this be posted into water cooler as it contains some newsletters? I could link to it from the site notice, to say '''Wikinews'' content licence was updated on day XXX, please see LINK for more info'. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC) :: Hi! Sure, yes that would fine. --[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 06:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC) == Scoop access == I tried to log in to my Scoop email account today and received an error: "Can't connect to server." A screenshot of the error message I get from webmail[https://webmail.wn-reporters.org/] can be seen here: https://ibb.co/nD7WzT1 When I try to log in using a desktop app, I see the certificate expired in November. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]) 16:21, 9 January 2025 (UTC) :Hi [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] :-) :* I've just renewed the certificates for wn-reporters.org and mail.wn-reporters.org (the latter being the mail address for both smtp and imap servers in your email client). :* I tested it by successfully sending mail from wn-reporters to an external email server ([[:w:Fastmail|Fastmail]]) and then back. :Does it work for you? Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:36, 10 January 2025 (UTC) :(webmail now partially works: logging in and viewing messages is possible, but not sending them.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:44, 10 January 2025 (UTC) :Webmail now works properly, sending emails also works. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:07, 10 January 2025 (UTC) ::I can confirm that for me, webmail is now fully accessible and I have successfully sent an email to an external address as well (yay!). Thank you. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]) 17:48, 10 January 2025 (UTC) :::You're welcome. Can you please review the new years story with the corresponding OR materials, as I can't commit to that amount of detail. Ideally cut what cannot verify, and publish. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:52, 13 January 2025 (UTC) ::::What OR materials are you referring to? Did something come through to Scoop? If so, I did not receive it. I just checked my inbox. ::::Also, did you see Heavy Waters message on that talk page regarding Scoop access for him and another? —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 13:58, 14 January 2025 (UTC) :::::Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] :::::They need to request here. Article talk page may get deleted and I need the request to stay. I am happy to provide access to a reviewer. :::::If the author did not email scoop, please ask the author to email again, perhaps start with a hello world message with no attachments in case email was too big. :::::Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 18:59, 14 January 2025 (UTC) ::::::What is the maximum attachment size allowed by the mail server for Scoop? —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 23:13, 14 January 2025 (UTC) :::::::Possibly none. Does the sender get an error message? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC) {{outdent|7}}The Scoop email server has a 10MB size limit. The server responded to test emails with this message: <code>message size 12864141 exceeds size limit 10240000 of server</code>. I have already updated our documentation to indicate the limit.[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Develop/Original_reporting&diff=prev&oldid=4835459], [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Develop/Original_reporting/introduction&diff=prev&oldid=4835458] I arranged for the attachments to be sent to my personal email and the article has since been published. Just thinking out loud here; perhaps one of our project focuses in 2025 could be a complete overhaul of how authors and reviewers effectively communicate and get important information verified for [[WN:OR]]. Currently the system is dysfunctional. Not all reviewers have access to scoop, scoop isn't able to handle modern file sizes, it doesn't appear that emails can be forwarded from scoop to personal emails (server side), etc. Our dysfunctional communication process is part of [[User:Michael.C.Wright/sandbox/The_problem#Possible_areas_of_attention|our perennial problem]]. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 15:14, 22 January 2025 (UTC) ::I'm going to download the stuff you'd recommended recently (Thunderbird? etc.?)--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:15, 10 January 2025 (UTC) :::Is Thunderbird working for you? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:51, 13 January 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] :Is it useful to write blanket or vague statements like that? I have asked a few clarifying questions below: :1. I will increase this limit and will get back to you. :2. Which reviewers don't have access to scoop? Please provide me with a list. I have typically provided access to anyone who asks. :3. Outgoing emails from scoop to personal emails works for me. Please try this again in the webmail. If there are issues, please email me screenshots ''''and''''' leave me a message on-wiki. :Thank you a lot for writing to me about it, I hope to be able to help you shortly. :Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:14, 28 January 2025 (UTC) ::I'm one of the reviewers who is not on scoop (nick_johns{{@}}wn-reporters [dot] org). IIRC, [[User:JJLiu112|Madeleine]] is in the same situation of having a wn-reporters address that is not on scoop. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 04:51, 28 January 2025 (UTC) :::To clarify — I ''had'' an email address, but my old email connected thereto was hacked, and I haven't gotten around to requesting a new one. Sorry I can't be of more help. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 05:02, 28 January 2025 (UTC) ::::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], my statement that Scoop is [[wikt:dysfunctional|dysfunctional]] is not directed at any individual. I stand by the general/blanket assessment because it is both useful and necessary to acknowledge. Scoop is currently not fulfilling its intended function—ensuring that sensitive information reaches all reviewers. ::::Further, addressing these challenges requires both the will and capacity to act. Our platforms([https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/technical#Updating_our_image_uploader_tool another example]) and processes are not operating effectively, and we are spending valuable time debating whether these issues exist rather than resolving them. ::::The long-term (~18 years) editing trend is in decline, and the short-term (twelve-month) trend shows no improvement. In 2024, we saw the lowest number of pages edited in all available historical data. I believe we have been experiencing a '''publishing crisis''' for at least four years and this is a direct result of dysfunctional platforms and processes. ::::[[File:2024-en-wn-historical-trend-pages-edited.png|alt=graph indicating historical trend.|border|center|width=500px|link=https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Michael.C.Wright/sandbox/The_problem]] ::::Regarding your questions: ::::2. I have requested that all reviewers verify access and notify you of any problems[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/technical#Scoop_access]. ::::3. {{tq|Outgoing emails from scoop to personal emails works for me.}} I was referring to the ability to ''forward'' emails sent to {{@}}wn-reporters.org to personal email addresses, server side. This way, reviewers don't necessarily have to check a separate email account (wn-reporters) in addition to their personal email, if they so choose. To clarify; I can send and receive emails to wn-reporters using webmail. ::::Thank you again for all you do around here. You wear many hats; author, reviewer, admin, 'crat, email server admin, and maybe more that I've missed. I do recognize that when we have very few active reviewers and admins, as we currently do, this puts a heavy burden on the few active ones. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 19:34, 28 January 2025 (UTC) :::::I can accept a statement only '''''with immediate action being taken to fix it''''', without necessarily waiting for Gryllida to write "Here are the actions required.". Without immediate action (which does not require prompts), blanket statements are useless and '''''disruptive''''' as they require effort of another volunteer to formulate an action plan. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:14, 28 January 2025 (UTC) :::::A few more responses. :::::For point 1: :::::* I have personal issues. They prevent me from editing. :::::** One of them is "Michael being vague in article reviews and in collaboration". Given my other personal issues and overload from them, this issue caused me to walk away for a few months. I did not have energy to translate wise vague statements into wise actionable statements. I have too much of that that needs doing in my environment already. Way too much to my liking. It would be nice to have this solved at earliest possible opportunity. :::::For point 2: :::::* I appreciate that. :::::* I believe it's only a tip of iceberg. If you have spare moments and energy, you may wish to email each of the reviewers individually. :::::** In my experience they often don't read. :::::*** They often don't read the wiki, they don't read personal talk page, they don't read personal emails through EmailUser. They only (in selected lucky cases) read some third party social media or place that needs to be dug up from their user page or Google. :::::For point 3: :::::* I was informed that this wasn't implemented because personal email are often not privacy respecting. Like: gmail, hotmail, etc. Perhaps for some other providers it is passable. With the email server working though and with webmail working, is forwarding something that you really need now? I am open to discussion. :::::* I will check whether this is possible to do in the webmail UI shortly. :::::Hope it helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:22, 28 January 2025 (UTC) ::::::{{tq|[B]lanket statements are useless and disruptive as they require effort of another volunteer to formulate an action plan.}} I see where this is going and will commit to avoiding any unnecessary interaction with you and I request that you return the favor. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 14:38, 29 January 2025 (UTC) :::::::That's not only about me. That applies for any blanket statement. Without immediate action taken to fix it, it distracts someone else. In my view this is acceptable only when you don't know what to do about the issue. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:46, 30 January 2025 (UTC) No option to add forwards in the webmail: [https://github.com/RainLoop/rainloop-webmail/issues/1846 bug report link] and they are not going to work on it anytime soon. So you need to have email client running constantly which forwards, or ask me to do a forward for you. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:37, 12 February 2025 (UTC) Increased attachment file size to 200,000,000 bytes (200 MB counting in 1000s not 1024s). Is any further needed? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:42, 12 February 2025 (UTC) == [[Wikinews:Requests for permissions]] == Hi, I think you have consensus to give yourself IA. Can you check out the request at MediaWiki talk:Common.css? [[User:Matrix|Matrix]] ([[User talk:Matrix|talk]]) 20:44, 20 January 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Matrix|Matrix]] I will check this. I am a bit busy this week so may take a few days. I will keep you updated. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC) ::Hi, @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]! if you have a moment, could you please take a look at [[MediaWiki talk:Common.css#Edit request (2)|the request]]? Thanks. [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 17:38, 7 March 2025 (UTC) == Reviewing == I'm going to add notes to self here about what is review queue like and what I reviewed. Currently no articles to review. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:12, 27 February 2025 (UTC) :Rewrote [[Parties agree to form triple coalition in Austria 155 days after elections]] from brief to a full story. Awaiting review. :Published [[US Navy Secretary nominee Phelan outlines readiness, cost-cutting reforms in Senate hearing]]. :Refused to publish [[Friends of US President Trump warn Ukrainian President Zelenskiy to shift directions or leave office]] and asked a question on talk page, as event location or matter is unclear. :Developing queue has 10+ other articles. Deleted some as stale. More remaining; ignoring for now. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:53, 3 March 2025 (UTC) :(Asked Koavf whether he/she codes in JS.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:53, 3 March 2025 (UTC) :Wrote wnr Thunderbird guide for Bddpaux [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:54, 3 March 2025 (UTC) :Filed https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T387801 about Echo not notifying [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:48, 3 March 2025 (UTC) :Would be good to have a script [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Gryllida/js/TagAbandoned.js like this] for archival [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:38, 4 March 2025 (UTC) :Archive source URLs. Maybe automatically for a published article. Asked [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Archival_of_url_and_source_update_script here]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:38, 4 March 2025 (UTC) == Firefox etc. == So: I (finally!) downloaded Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird....... Now what?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:20, 3 March 2025 (UTC) :Hi, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:44, 3 March 2025 (UTC) :See '''[[User:Gryllida/Wnr in Thunderbird]]''' @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] How does this help? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:08, 3 March 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ...? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 13:53, 6 March 2025 (UTC) ::It does help, but: I don't remember my password. Acagastaya kinda managed that, but was difficult to reach and has all but vanished. So, maybe it just won't work. I don't know. Maybe you can do a password re-set? Heck, I don't even remember my 'official' WN email address.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:02, 7 March 2025 (UTC) :::[[Special:EmailUser/Bddpaux|Message sent]]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:10, 17 March 2025 (UTC) Fantastic! Thanks!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:29, 17 March 2025 (UTC) :You're welcome :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:45, 20 March 2025 (UTC) == Top article in February! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in February, 2025. The article has at least 1,237 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[Gunman enters Pennsylvania hospital ICU, kills officer before police fatally shoot him]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in February of 2025. Thank you for sticking with articles and quickly working toward consensus for changes! {{clear}} —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 15:23, 21 March 2025 (UTC) :Gosh this is good thanks. I have been writing a mobile app for news writing recently, got stuck on '''[[:w:Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#edit_api_with_oauth_javascript_(not_nodejs)_(not_mediawiki_js)_example|this]]'''. cc @[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:41, 23 March 2025 (UTC) ::Great work as always, G. Keep it up. <3 —[[User:Koavf|Justin (ko'''a'''vf)]]❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯ 19:45, 23 March 2025 (UTC) == Wildfires article == Not that this is keeping me up at night (it isn't) -- but I wonder why this didn't show up on Main page....?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:36, 28 March 2025 (UTC) :I did not put lede. (Check article talk.) It shows fine in the feed of published articles. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 17:05, 28 March 2025 (UTC) == Trophy == Not sure how this got missed: This belongs on your user page!! [[File:Wikinews Staff Reporter.png|100px|left|This [[Wikinews:Contributing Reporter Awards|award]] is presented to Wikinews reporters upon their 50th published news article.]]Keep it up!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 12:30, 1 April 2025 (UTC) :Thank you @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]. This is so inspirational to write more stories. :-) -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:05, 1 April 2025 (UTC) == Sighting last change? == I was wondering if you could possibly, last edit from me for the Conway, Arkansas article? Thank you very much! P.S. I wish to stay anonymous, thank you again! @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[Special:Contributions/64.39.81.71|64.39.81.71]] ([[User talk:64.39.81.71|talk]]) 23:23, 14 April 2025 (UTC) :{{done}} Thanks. You're welcome to {{channel|wikinews-en}} join the live chat (stick around for a couple hours, it's a bit quiet at times~) It is a pretty anonymous platform that does not require registration. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:24, 14 April 2025 (UTC) ::Much appreciated. [[Special:Contributions/64.39.81.71|64.39.81.71]] ([[User talk:64.39.81.71|talk]]) 23:26, 14 April 2025 (UTC) == Review Help Needed - Update 1 (April 15, 2025) == Hello! This is Gryllida. I am one of the reviewers at Wikinews. I'm contacting you to request assistance with the review queue. Here is my understanding of the articles which are in the review queue now: {| class="wikitable" ! Event Date !! Link !Did I edit substantially? |- | April 6 Sunday || * [[Deadly attack on gold miners in Papua leaves multiple casualties and sparks security response]] | |- |April 9 Wednesday | * [[Prison confession and police interrogation video of Delphi bridge murderer made public for first time]] | |- |April 9 Wednesday | * [[Helicopter crash in South Africa blamed on 'unsecured' penguin]] | |- |April 10 Thursday | * [[Authorities identify Legionnaires' disease outbreak in Sydney CBD, Australia]] |YES |- |April 10 Thursday | * [[US Health Secretary vows to determine cause of autism by September]] |YES |- |April 12 Saturday | * [[Nuclear negotiations between US and Iran commence in Muscat, Oman]] | |- |April 13 Sunday | * [[Nobel laureate writer from Peru, Vargas Llosa dies]] | |- |April 14 Monday | * [[President Bukele says he will not return wrongly deported U.S. man, confounding U.S. Supreme Court order]] | |- |April 14 Monday | * [[Pop singer Katy Perry safely returns to Earth from outer space]] | |} Suggested action: * Start to review from the top of the list. * As the list may be out of date, please check the '''[[WN:Newsroom]]''' at your earliest convenience. I'm planning to send this reminder twice a week. To unsubscribe, please visit [[User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review]] and inquire at the talk page. '''If you wish, I can narrow it down to only notify you of new stories in your preferred region or topic. Please let me know if you are interested in this option.''' Please let me know if you require assistance or would like to connect with me to do a few reviews together before you proceed to do them fully on your own. Many thanks for your time. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida]] 11:44, 15 April 2025 (UTC)  == Review Help Needed - Update 2 (April 21, 2025) - 17 articles awaiting review == Hello! :-) This is Gryllida. I am one of the reviewers at Wikinews. I'm contacting you to request your assistance with the review queue. Here is my understanding of the articles which are in the review queue now: {| class="wikitable" |+ Caption ! Event Date !! Link !Did I edit substantially? |- |April 9 Wednesday | * [[Prison confession and police interrogation video of Delphi bridge murderer made public for first time]] | |- |April 10 Thursday | * [[US Health Secretary vows to determine cause of autism by September]] |YES |- | |[[Suspect taken into custody and charged after Pennsylvania governor Josh Shapiro is forced to evacuate gubernatorial mansion with family following suspected arson attack]] | |- |April 12 Saturday |[[Nuclear negotiations between US and Iran commence in Muscat, Oman]] | |- | |[[Weezer performs at Coachella music festival with bassist Scott Shriner four days after his wife was shot by Los Angeles police, charged with attempted murder]] | |- |April 13 Sunday |[[Sumy, Ukraine hit with two missiles by Russia]] | |- |April 14 Monday | * [[President Bukele says he will not return wrongly deported U.S. man, confounding U.S. Supreme Court order]] | |- |April 14 Monday |[[Pop singer Katy Perry safely returns to Earth from outer space]] | |- | |[[Thousands hospitalised in Iraq due to sandstorm]] | |- | |[[Teen's murder of both parents was part of larger plot to assassinate Donald Trump and overthrow US government, newly-released FBI affidavit says]] [[Teen's murder of both parents was part of larger plot to assassinate Donald Trump and overthrow US government, newly-released FBI affidavit says|(Date TBC)]] | |- |April 15 Tuesday |[[New rape and sexual assault charges trial for Harvey Weinstein in Manhattan]] | |- | |[[Protester tasered and arrested at town hall hosted by US Republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene]] | |- | |[[Several suspects dead in South Africa after shootout results in the rescue of abducted US pastor]] | |- | |[[16 year old Torquay boy arrested after stealing Lexus in Exeter]] | |- | | | |- |April 16 Wednesday |[[Rwandan government releases Integrated Household Living Conditions Survey]] | |- | |[[German prosecutors charge doctor with murder of over a dozen patients via anaesthetic drugs, arson]] [[German prosecutors charge doctor with murder of over a dozen patients via anaesthetic drugs, arson|Date TBC]] | |- |April 17 Thursday |[[Four dead in cable car crash in area south of Naples]] | |- |April 18 Friday |[[Ryan Gosling cast in upcoming Star Wars film]] | |- | |[[Cincinnati Reds win against Baltimore Orioles]] | |- | | | |} Suggested action: * Start to review, perhaps from the top of the list. * Please, aim to review at least one article a fortnight, if able. We currently have less than 50% activity among reviewers, with many '''not having made an edit within last two years'''. If there is something that can help you with coming back, please let me know. I'm happy to chat with you at IRC, wiki, audio, or any preferred platform and do several reviews together. If there is some other motivator, I'm eager to know what it is and get it done as soon as possible. * As the list may be out of date, please check the '''[[WN:Newsroom]]''' at your earliest convenience. I'm planning to send this reminder twice a week. To unsubscribe, please visit [[User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review]] and inquire at the talk page. '''If you wish, I can narrow it down to only notify you of new stories in your preferred region or topic. Please let me know if you are interested in this option.''' Please let me know if you require assistance or would like to connect with me to do a few reviews together before you proceed to do them fully on your own. Many thanks for your time. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:23, 20 April 2025 (UTC)  == court date == I have not found a court date set for the Josh Shapiro incident. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 19:50, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :issue with [[WN:Freshness]] is there an email of the relevant police station, i can ask them for clarification from my wn-reporters email? thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:33, 20 April 2025 (UTC) == Please block BigKrow2 == Imposter account @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:16, 20 April 2025 (UTC) Thank you very much I'm getting tired of socks [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:17, 20 April 2025 (UTC) :{{done}} thanks for the report [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:32, 20 April 2025 (UTC) == Review Help Requested - Update 3 (April 26, 2025) - 2 articles awaiting review == Hello :-) This is Gryllida. I am one of the reviewers at Wikinews. I'm contacting you to request your assistance with the review queue. Here is my understanding of the articles which are in the review queue now: * [[Tesla reports 71% profit loss in 25Q1 vs 24Q1, Elon Musk to reduce government work commitment]] TUESDAY April 22 (Gryllida did a major edit, and cannot review) - '''4 days ago''' * [[Lion mauls, kills teenage girl in Kenya]] SATURDAY April 19 - '''7 days ago''' LAST DAY TO REVIEW IS TODAY Please review urgently. As the list may be out of date, please check the '''[[WN:Newsroom]]''' at your earliest convenience. You're welcome to join [[WN:IRC|the live chat]] for real time collaboration. (I'm planning to send this reminder approximately twice a week. To unsubscribe, please visit [[User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review]] and inquire at the talk page. '''If you wish, I can narrow it down to only notify you of new stories in your preferred region or topic. Please let me know if you are interested in this option.''') Please let me know if you require assistance or would like to connect with me to do a few reviews together before you proceed to do them fully on your own. Many thanks for your time. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:29, 25 April 2025 (UTC)  == test == {{#assessment:Main|A|High}} test. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:39, 15 May 2025 (UTC) == Note to self: mw query about categories for archives and talk page section archival == * [[:mw:Project:Support_desk#Enable_editing_category_of_protected_articles]] * [[:mw:Project:Support_desk#Enable_section_archival]] [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:06, 24 May 2025 (UTC) == Review Help Requested - Update 4 (May 24, 2025) - 18 articles awaiting review == Hello, legendary Wikinews Reviewer :-) Please review any of the below now. This is a sortable table. Please check [[Wikinews:Newsroom]] for the latest revision. {| class="wikitable sortable" |+ ! ! ! ! |- |[[Rock musician, Tommy Lee and wife split after 6 years of marriage]] |16?? | | |- |[[Orleans Parish facility maintenance worker charged with allegedly helping inmates escape prison]] |20 | | |- |[[Wikipedia administrators are being arrested in Belarus]] |17 |original reporting! | |- |[[Australian Nationals leave Coalition with Liberal Party]] |20 | | |- |[[Ukrainian ex-top official shot dead outside Madrid school]] |21 | | |- |[[Trump claims there is a 'genocide' in South Africa, but white Afrikaner farmers dispute that assertion]] |21 | | |- |[[Suicide bomber attacks Mogadishu military base]] |18 |7 days ago! | |- |[[Explosion near reproductive health facility in Palm Springs, California]] |17 |8 days ago! | |- |[[Interpol facilitates arrest of Peruvian organised crime suspect in Medellin, Colombia]] |15 |10 days ago! | |- |[[Shooting at CIA headquarters in Virginia]] |22 | | |- |[[End confirmed for the American penny]] |22 | | |- |[[Inaugural Khelo India Beach Games concludes early]] |23 | | |- |[[GeoGuessr cancels participation in Esports World Cup in response to controversy over Saudi Arabia hosting the event]] |22nd May |short article easy? | |- |[[Sound Talent Group employees among casualties in private plane crash at San Diego, California]] |22 | | |- |[[Nepal Supreme Court upholds custody of Rabi Lamichhane in cooperative fraud case]] |23 | | |- |[[Police activity on Interstate 80 in Berkeley near University Avenue]] |23 | | |- |[[High-Speed RV Chase Ends in Fatal Crash – Albuquerque]] |18 | | |- |[[Donald Trump wants Golden Dome missile defense system]] |20 | | |} You're welcome to join [[WN:IRC|the live chat]] for real time collaboration. To unsubscribe, see [[User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review]] or reply to this message and ping Gryllida. Regards, --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:23, 24 May 2025 (UTC)  == Template: article checklist == Headline in active voice - yes/no Headline in present tense - yes/no Check event date. Tick the box if Event is CURRENT (less than 5, ideally less than 2, days ago) - yes/no Article contains no pasted content that was not attributed - yes/no Wrote all in my own words - yes/no Attributed quotes where needed (no plagiarism) - yes/no Content in past tense - yes/no Content in active voice - yes/no Neutral content (NPOV) - yes/no Content length reached - yes/no [[Wikinews:5W|5W]] answered in first paragraph - yes/no [[Wikinews:IP|inverted pyramid]] . - yes/no categories were added - yes/no wikilinks were added using "w" template - yes/no sources were filled in (date, publisher, etc) - yes/no fresh sources are listed first - yes/no article contains an image - yes/no [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 17:50, 30 May 2025 (UTC) == User:GreekApple123 == Please don't let them create no content categories, thank you. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:03, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] only if there is a handful of pages thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 19:50, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ::I think every new category creates the potential for 1,000 new articles, but alright. [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 20:35, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :::Make the first handful then add category :-) Mine is bland, I just look at news in my country. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:40, 4 June 2025 (UTC) == Wikinews closure formally recommended == The Task Force has released a report that formally recommends closing Wikinews. The public consultation is here: [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 13:59, 26 June 2025 (UTC) :thanks, i left a few notes at the talk page [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:50, 29 June 2025 (UTC) == Top article for June! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in June, 2025. The article has at least 3,666 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[Boeing 787 crashes into Indian medical school, killing hundreds]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in June of 2025. The article set a new, high bar for page views! {{clear}} —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 13:22, 11 July 2025 (UTC) == Hi == Thought about the offer. I think I would like to become a reviewer. I think it could help make me a better writer. I don't believe I currently have the emotional maturity to be an administrator though, unfortunately. I was just involved in a childish dispute with another editor over wikilinks and warning templates over at ENWP. Could have conducted myself better. I feel dumb [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:59, 14 July 2025 (UTC) == You back? == [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:54, 20 July 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:55, 20 July 2025 (UTC) ::I did not leave. I am on internet every day. My user page lists my contacts. Have you joined all these networks and sent me a message? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:26, 20 July 2025 (UTC) :::Hi Gryllida, Please check my(dfh Li) message on TG, thank you ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 08:39, 2 August 2025 (UTC) == Two things == We could really use another active reviewer to help get articles published. Would you be willing to re-engage? Second, the email server seems to be down, though webmail is still accessible. When I try to log in, it says: "Can't connect to server." Thanks in advance for your help on both fronts.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 13:47, 23 July 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]. :* Apologies for delay, fixed now. :* Please consider using a more meaningful heading for a section like this. Like "Urgent, webmail is dead". I think it got email notification about this message but did not click the link. :*(I am planning to file a phab ticket, the email notification should really include full content of the edit, not only first sentence and a "...". This would have helped me to assess the urgency of the message.) :Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:06, 8 August 2025 (UTC) == Top article in July! == [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025.webp|thumb|left|alt=Award for highest monthly page-views.|Contributing author for the top article published in July, 2025. The article has at least 3,583 views!]] Thank you for contributing to the article titled "[[20-year-old astrophotographer captures rare solar eclipse on Saturn]]." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in July of 2025. That's two months in a row! {{clear}}[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 16:32, 4 August 2025 (UTC) :Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:07, 8 August 2025 (UTC) == Thoughts on the review process == During the time you were using your own streamlined approach to reviewing, primarily focusing on the 5Ws, we saw a noticeable spike in both article publication and engagement from contributors and readers. That period of activity was one of the most productive we've had in a while. To me, this highlights two important things: # You’ve demonstrated through practice that the current review process may be too rigid for where we are as a project. # Lowering resistance in the review process while still maintaining standards, is likely a key part of improving participation and output. I’m not raising this to debate the method you used (which I do personally disagree with), but rather to point out that it effectively revealed areas where our current process may be holding us back. If we, as a community, can find ways to make review more flexible, without compromising the integrity of published work, I believe we could see real improvements. I would be interested to hear your thoughts if you're open to discussing possible reforms.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 13:54, 7 August 2025 (UTC) :I am open to discussion. I think we can bring that back, and tag published articles with "5W was checked and copyvio, you are welcome to edit within 24h (<timer of time remaining here> left) to fix issues." on top. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:34, 7 August 2025 (UTC) :: I have a few questions, just to clarify and understand where you're coming from. :: ::# Are you envisioning more of a Wikipedia-style approach where facts must be verifiable, as opposed to our current emphasis on verified facts? ::# What are your thoughts on tools like Citoid to help with verification? I know it would shift our style slightly from traditional journalistic formatting to something more wiki-native. But maybe that tradeoff is acceptable. ::# Would neutrality checks still be a foundational part of your review model? ::# Are there other areas where you think the current process needs to evolve to better support contributors and readers? :: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 20:32, 7 August 2025 (UTC) :::1 did not get, please rephrase :::2 what is this and how does it work :::3 yes :::4 some form of "are you here or are you going to vanish" to know other users availability would be nice. Especially in first 2 days of article life, availability of users who edited it or are following the region. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:44, 7 August 2025 (UTC) :::: 1. Are you envisioning a model closer to Wikipedia’s, where facts only need to be verifiable, meaning a reliable source exists somewhere, even if the reviewer hasn’t personally checked it, or do you still support Wikinews’ current approach, where all facts must be verified, that is, explicitly confirmed against the listed sources by the reviewer before publication? 2. [[mw:Citoid]] would allow us to use in-line citations that would appear in the article body. It may also be helpful in our archival process. It could be considered part of the "shift toward the wiki model" that I mentioned [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#c-Michael.C.Wright-20250807134200-Gryllida-20250806180200|here]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 22:26, 7 August 2025 (UTC) :::::1 is still unclear. In wikipedia i verify each source. Someone writes "moon is blue [1]", if i saw that edit and taking care of it, i will check it out and verify. As reader, as reviewer of new draft, as reviewer of new edit patrol. Whatever. :::::1a. In "only check 5W", only the 5W is cross checked against sources. Everything else is cross checked reviewer time permitting (not more than 10 extra mins). If there was something i couldnt verify in 10 min, and it is not major ("not 5W or a major claim"), i leave a note i did not check it and publish anyway. I do not ask to fix, wait 2 days for author to vanish etc etc. :::::2. I oppose inline citations because of a few reasons. :::::2a. if abc reports that police arrested someone, then the meanjngful source is what the police said. I do not care if the police statement was re reported by abc, bbc, foxnews, reuters, nytimes, or whoever. In news text i write who did what, not refering to inpine citation. :::::2b. Reader cares what happened not where to cites. :::::2c. Takes time for author to add. :::::2d. Takes no ease for reviewer as a reviewer cross checks against all sources anyway. :::::Hope it helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:15, 8 August 2025 (UTC) == Note on source and reviewer roles == I want to follow up on something from the recent review discussion for the [[Interview with the president of the Fusion, answering common questions: Australia needs to break through|Wolfendale interview]]. At one point, you told me not to request a source for the statement that the party is “emerging.” Even if the party is new, calling it “emerging” is not a purely factual description. It’s an evaluative term that implies both growth and increasing relevance. That’s an interpretation, and in wikivoice it would be presented as fact, which risks crossing into analysis. Per [[WN:CS]], any such statement needs either a reliable source or clear attribution. As a contributor to that article, you were involved in its development, so there’s a conflict of interest in directing another reviewer on how to apply sourcing requirements. I also want to be clear that I do not view you, or any other individual reviewer, as having reviewer authority over others. Reviewers work independently, and no one reviewer can waive core policy requirements for another. I understand you were aiming to move the article forward, but phrases like “don’t request a source” can be read as pressure to lower standards, which risks setting a precedent that undermines fairness and consistency in the review process. My concern here is about process integrity, not intent.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 14:10, 11 August 2025 (UTC) :If it is not neutral, then do not request source. Delete it or request it to be changed to neutral. Requesting source is confusing and does not get your point across. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:45, 11 August 2025 (UTC) : I marked “emerging” as unsourced because [[WN:CS]] requires every statement in wikivoice to be sourced or clearly attributed. In this case, it’s both an evaluative term and unsupported by a source, making it a verification issue first and a neutrality issue as a result. Flagging it as opposed to deleting it allows another contributor to either provide a source or rephrase it, and it keeps me uninvolved as a reviewer. : I could delete it, but the article would still be unpublishable. Flagging it instead gives another contributor, such as yourself, the opportunity to correct the underlying problem if they wish to keep the statement. : It looks like we'll have to agree to disagree on approach here. But I think we can both agree that applying core policies consistently is important for maintaining review standards.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 23:31, 11 August 2025 (UTC) ::I do not understand you. There are two very important aspect there that will affect how Wikinews will work in the future. ::* The way you define "emerging" with the bit about increasing relevance looks subjective to me. (Not your subjective definitoj, but putting the word in a news story makes it subjective or biased or promotional). Marking it with source required does not convey the full meaning of the request. It is why instead of relying on an inline tag it is better to leave a more specific note on the talk page. ::* it is a detail and not a part of 5W. In the interest of fast publishing, it may be removed, and a note added in the review comments stating why it was removed. ::If you disagree with any of the two above points, please elaborate and do not end the conversation, as I am happy to clarify why I wrote it and address any counter argument. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:57, 11 August 2025 (UTC) ::: It seems your framing of the discussion only allowed for two outcomes: you clarifying your position or offering a new counterargument. A third possibility is that you might understand and agree with my perspective. ::: As I understand your position: if something is non-neutral, unsourced, or both, it should be deleted if possible to allow faster publication. If deletion isn’t possible, a clear, concise explanation should be posted on the talk page. Finally, statements not addressing the 5Ws are not critical and if they violate policy, they can be removed to allow faster publication. ::: My response: ::: :::* The article has no sources. :::* I raised the issue of neutrality immediately (see [[Special:GoToComment/c-Michael.C.Wright-20250712130200-Almost_ready_for_review|here]]), though not for every specific case since I was not performing a review. Without any sources, there is nothing I can verify. It’s entirely possible one of the unlisted sources described Fusion as “emerging,” and once sources are listed, that problem could be resolved. :::* No full review has been performed. The article is still not ready for one, as '''no sources are listed'''. I feel like that fact is not getting through. :::* I’ve already said I could delete the term. I could delete everything except the Q&A. But doing so would not make the article publishable. There is not a single listed source or any OR notes. ::: ::: [[WN:CS]]: "[E]very piece of information in a Wikinews article must be referenced..." [[WN:NPOV]]: "[W]e do not report analyses unless they are explicitly attributed to a specific, qualified party or individual..." ::: To put it as simply and concisely as possible (and throwing out all nuance): ::: Verification is a prerequisite for neutrality.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 11:41, 12 August 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] I don't know why this article is arguing about all this now. Even if Wikinews reporters don't have the right to use the word "emerging," what's the problem? You two are both capable of writing better introductions. Could one of you please revise it and come up with a new one? It really doesn't matter. As for the sources of editer's notes, I've already listed them. (The differences in your reviewing and editing philosophies can be gradually discussed and reconciled later.) ::It's perfectly fine to call this a metamodern party. The official party has used the term as well(see https://www.reddit.com/r/FusionPartyAus/comments/1d7uia4/lightning_talk_fusion_is_a_metamodern_political/). But if you consider it non-neutral, that's fine too.~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 09:19, 12 August 2025 (UTC) :::Yes, I can revise it and i can give to MCW for review. I needed to express my confusion with the misuse of the "unsourced" tag, as 1. it is pretty bad at explaining the issue and 2. I would only use it for 5W. Otherwise cut it out and leave a comment as part of review. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 09:45, 12 August 2025 (UTC) ::::Thank you. That's perfect, then let's discuss this gradually. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 10:31, 12 August 2025 (UTC) ::: > ''You two are both capable of writing better introductions. Could one of you please revise it and come up with a new one?'' ::: I could and if I did, I would also have to add a source. Doing so would disqualify me as a reviewer based on our [[WN:REV|reviewing policy]], which states "all articles must be reviewed by a user who was uninvolved in the development of the article." ::: The last time a reviewer other than Gryllida or myself published an article was June. If we both were to disqualify ourselves by helping to develop the article, there is less of a chance it would get a review by a third reviewer. ::: At this point I think it should be [[WN:Gatwicking|Gatwicked]] to qualify for [[WN:Freshness]] and I don't know if that can be done while retaining the Q&A. The interview was focused on the election held three months ago. We allow some leniency for [[WN:OR]] but three months is a stretch. ::: I think we take our lessons learned and use them for the next article.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 11:52, 12 August 2025 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] So could you maybe improve the introduction and notes and please then have Mr. Michael C. Wright review it? ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:35, 13 August 2025 (UTC) :::::I've add the sources. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:36, 13 August 2025 (UTC) == Email == Please check your email. Having problems signing in at Wikinewsie.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:15, 13 August 2025 (UTC) == Article Russian propagandist Sergey Markov designated as "foreign agent" by Russian Justice Ministry == Could you please check it and give any suggestions? I'd like it to be published as early as possible. [[User:BilboBeggins|BilboBeggins]] ([[User talk:BilboBeggins|talk]]) 10:38, 23 August 2025 (UTC) == Chi-knees busting only 2 == Chi-knees busting only 2 needs blocking vandalism only account @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:38, 30 August 2025 (UTC) == Thank you! == Thank you for reviewing the article! I have another article for review. I see there are many articles for review now. How to become a reviewer? [[User:BilboBeggins|BilboBeggins]] ([[User talk:BilboBeggins|talk]]) 16:32, 6 September 2025 (UTC) == Successful request for permissions == Hi Gryllida, Following up on the [[m:Steward requests/Permissions#Michael.C.Wright@en.wikinews|discussion at Meta]] regarding my [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Requests_for_permissions/Administrator/Michael.C.Wright administrator request]: The request has been open for over five weeks and has received sufficient support — including your own. Per the stewards’ response, they’ve asked that local bureaucrats handle it rather than stewards since en.WN still has active 'crats. With very few active administrators, it has become challenging to keep up with essential maintenance and review tasks, so resolving this would be helpful for the project. Would you be willing to close the discussion and assign the permissions?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 14:45, 8 September 2025 (UTC) :if it has not been done already, i will do it within next 12 hours thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:44, 10 September 2025 (UTC) :Permission granted. Thanks! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:06, 10 September 2025 (UTC) == Just hoping your ok == Can you speak, @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] I know you're around somewhere because you said your on the web somewhere sometimes we miss you. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:50, 7 October 2025 (UTC) :Welcome back, good to see you around. Sorry for bothering you again. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:12, 8 October 2025 (UTC) ::Hi BigKrow, I remarked on my (un)availability in one of my messages in the previous section. Thank you for stopping by and saying hello. Hi. :-) Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 09:37, 9 October 2025 (UTC) == no reviewers? == I was part of the small meeting we had where Wiki NYC was discussing helping Wikinews and I think you sauid to reach out with any questions that come up. I have had the past week to take an interest. I have contributed a few articles, submitted for review, but no one has done anything for most of them, and now someone has marked one of them as "stale", as well as some other articles, one it seems waiting a full week for review. Is this the expected way for things to go here, where people submit articles, and through no fault of their own and with no real indication as to why they are ignored and then deleted? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 18:06, 6 October 2025 (UTC) :I have been following Tduk's submissions from a distance, despite my inactivity. His submissions are timely, but it's not appropriate to mark these as becoming stale solely because no reviewer has been able to review in a timely manner. The last article was published a week ago, and I don't know how we can get out of this hole. Wikinews lost me as a contributor because of how long it took for my own work to be reviewed. The bar should be to review articles in under 24h if this project wants to continue living up to its dream. [[User:SWinxy|SWinxy]] ([[User talk:SWinxy|talk]]) 18:34, 6 October 2025 (UTC) ::I'll also add that it's not just my articles that this is happening to, other contributors' content is also affected. All of the marking as 'stale' seems to be by one user so I don't really know if it's representative which is part of why I'm asking about it. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 18:37, 6 October 2025 (UTC) :::I'm tagging them as stale because they are I'll stop if you want @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] @[[User:SWinxy|SWinxy]] @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:40, 6 October 2025 (UTC) ::::Yeah, I don't think you should be changing those tags. [[User:SWinxy|SWinxy]] ([[User talk:SWinxy|talk]]) 19:34, 6 October 2025 (UTC) :::::Ok @[[User:SWinxy|SWinxy]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:15, 6 October 2025 (UTC) ::::::@[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], can you explain why you just marked a great number of articles stale, despite @[[User:SWinxy|SWinxy]] asking you not to (because all of those articles have been awaiting review for over a week), and you agreeing not to? You also marked [[Dancer Yoshiko Chuma performs at the Children’s Magical Garden in New York City]] stale for the 4th time[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Dancer_Yoshiko_Chuma_performs_at_the_Children%E2%80%99s_Magical_Garden_in_New_York_City&diff=prev&oldid=4880009] [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Dancer_Yoshiko_Chuma_performs_at_the_Children%E2%80%99s_Magical_Garden_in_New_York_City&diff=prev&oldid=4881229 ][https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Dancer_Yoshiko_Chuma_performs_at_the_Children%E2%80%99s_Magical_Garden_in_New_York_City&diff=prev&oldid=4881664]. [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Dancer_Yoshiko_Chuma_performs_at_the_Children%E2%80%99s_Magical_Garden_in_New_York_City&diff=prev&oldid=4884083] , despite @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] explicitly asking you to stop doing that[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BigKrow&diff=prev&oldid=4881736]. Did something happen that we are all unaware of? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 02:41, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :::::::@[[User:Tduk|Tduk]], they are mostly very stale. I reverted my edit. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:01, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :::::::@[[User:Tduk|Tduk]], you must know I have very bad OCD also among other illnesses. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:03, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::::::::Hi @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] i suggest you have a peer who helps you with wiki edits. It is time consuming to check everything you wrote or edited. Can you find a friend (IRL or on wiki) who can do this for you, please? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 09:34, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :::::::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], no I don't want anyone to help me except wikinewises thanks. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 12:03, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :::::::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], I want to continue to write I don't want to lose my privileges, thank you. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 12:07, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :::::::@[[User:Tduk|Tduk]], are you happy now? Sorry for taking up your space @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], sorry again @[[User:SWinxy|SWinxy]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 03:12, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::::::: “Facts don’t cease to be facts, but news ceases to be news.” ::::::: Our mission is to publish '''news'''. Per [[WN:Fresh]], news has a shelf life of five to seven days, with reasonable exceptions for original reporting. ::::::: That guideline makes no mention of reviewer activity extending an article’s freshness. ::::::: The core issue is clear: we must either increase the number of active, ''effective'' reviewers or reform, or even remove the review process. ::::::: Unfortunately, there remains strong resistance to meaningful change, even as the project faces the risk of closure if we continue operating as we have.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 14:57, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::::::::It is, quite frankly, ridiculous to expect people to contribute and penalize them for something beyond their control. A few of us came here to help in any way we could, but seeing that the time of people hoping to help is being wasted with no way to change that, or no consideration to what it looks like to the outside world is disheartening - and you have already lost a few valuable contributors because of this. If you have any interest in saving this project, I think right now is the time to do it. Also, I refer you to {{W|Wikipedia:Ignore all rules}} and am a bit confused that your defense, as an administrator, is that your hands are tied and that you will continue to endorsing throwing away peoples' contributions because of a flawed system. Where is "resistance strong to meaningful change"? I'm not seeing any activity at all here, let alone anyone who can resist. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:12, 9 October 2025 (UTC) {{outdent|7}} {{tq|It is, quite frankly, ridiculous to expect people to contribute and penalize them for something beyond their control.}} This is a [[w:Straw man|straw man]] argument. I’ve been vocal about my position on [[User:Michael.C.Wright/sandbox/The problem|The problem]], and to be clear, I don’t ''expect'' anyone to contribute, nor do I believe anyone should be "penalized" for circumstances beyond their control. The issue isn’t individual behavior; it’s structural. When articles go stale because no reviewer is available, that isn’t punishment. It’s the inevitable result of our [[WN:Fresh|freshness]] <s>policy</s> guideline, which exists to ensure we publish ''news'' while it’s still ''news.'' Ignoring that principle would undermine the mission itself. That said, I share your frustration. No one wants to see contributors’ work lost to process failures. I too have had many articles deleted due to low reviewer activity. As someone interested in reviewing, it’s worth noting that we do have [[WN:IAR|Ignore all rules]], and I have explicitly invoked it, for example, [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:Wikinews_interviews_Australian_Fusion_Party_President_Drew_Wolfendale#Review_of_revision_4877835_%5BPassed%5D here], when doing so clearly improved the project. But those cases should remain exceptional and serve to highlight where policy and workflow need reform, not to justify routine circumvention. Our task isn’t to abandon the rules; it’s to fix the system so contributors’ work can succeed within a process that’s flexible, fair, and true to our mission. To that end, I’d encourage you to look at the various proposals, both current and archived, at [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals]]. If you feel strongly about any of them, please weigh in, or propose new ideas that might help us move forward. The inactivity you see now is not indicative of what the [[Wikinews:2025 Boost publication rate/Monthly top article/Updates|beginning of this year looked like]]. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 17:02, 9 October 2025 (UTC);edited 17:06, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::I'm glad we mostly agree then; you seemed to be deferring to policy rather than wanting to change it. I was recruited here to help stop this site from going away, and I seem to be here at a particularly bad time. I will go to the water cooler as you suggest - but also I'd like to point out that throwing away a contributors efforts because of mismanagement is absolutely penalizing them, and basically stealing their time and goodwill. It is a bad move and it is how you lose (and are losing) contributors. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 17:47, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :::I've put some more thought into it, and I realized that the moment you first lose a valid contribution from a willing editor due to poor management, that is the time that should spur action and everyone involved should want to avoid it ever happening again at all costs. The fact that it's being allowed to happen repeatedly (as I am led to believe) and is considered and acceptable loss makes no sense to me; where can I look to see the previous attempts to fix this problem that failed? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 19:16, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::::[[User:Lofi_Gurl/my_stale_stuff|Here]] is a compilation of articles I have written over the last few months that have not been published because they went stale waiting for review. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:04, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] and @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] I started a thread at [[Wikinews talk:Newsworthiness]] if you would like to participate. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:36, 10 October 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]], there are a few reviewers. There are a few issues, from my view here are those that I find the most pressing: :# As reviewing is time consuming I cannot do it every day. (Last 10 days I was busy with moving house and was sleeping about 4 hours a night. I didn't check my talk page or the wiki during these 10 days.) :# We have several reviewers who are lacking the sense of urgency. It was long agreed that if a part of an article was questionable and is not essential then it can be removed and then re-added within 24 hours (with changes implemented as requested) after it was published. Some reviewers continue to make gnome edits and delay publishing by requesting these changes to be made. :# Burn out is a part of this issue. Many reviewers tried to be consistently available every day and burned out. This issue also applies to article authors. No system or platform exists now that could encourage users to become available, for example, 3 days a fortnight to commit to contributing to one news article during that time to progress it to completion. :# Authors often lack the sense of urgency. There is no platform that pings a user properly. Wiki 'notifications' don't send a notification box on the screen when the tab is open, not to mention when it is closed. Most users have smartphones. Android app for Wikinews could help to resolve this. There is a Telegram group and a discord group. In the telegram group there is a bot that notifies when new drafts are made and when they are submitted for review. This is helpful to me personally. Asked42 is there. As far as I know other reviewers are not. :# Leadership issues were raised at the water cooler. Recruitment of new authors and reviewers and developers is part of that role. Please check the water cooler section for this. This role is currently unfilled. :# Development is needed and the backlog is visible at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/8111/ :Hope it helps. Please let me know if you have any questions or suggestions. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 09:27, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::This all makes sense, and that's why we are here to try to help, to eventually become reviewers. It's all too much work for the number of people here right now. I think @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] mass-tagging of articles waiting for review for a full week as stale made many nervous; could you commment on that? What we need is a clear comment from someone that articles will not be lost because no one is around to review them at all. Also, I seem to be unable to find the watercooler link you mentioned. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 12:45, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :::Sorry, All I can say. @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:41, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :::I'd like to know why too. I created [[Wikinews:ReviewLog]] i suggest adding notes about an article at time of 'publishing' or 'deleting' it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:06, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::::(Revised [[MediaWiki:Confirmdeletetext]] to mention this.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:08, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :::I too would like to know why articles were getting tagged as stale, especially when some that I saw in fact were not stale. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:56, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::::I just wish you all would get off my back. What is done is done. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:58, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:11, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :::::I think we’re really dealing with two separate but related problems here. The first is that contributors are understandably frustrated that articles aren’t being reviewed quickly enough and are going stale before they can be published. The second is a concern that some articles may have been marked as stale in error. :::::On the first point: if the community feels the [[WN:Freshness]] guideline is no longer workable as written, then the next step is to propose specific changes to it. That discussion belongs on the guideline’s talk page or at [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals]], where we can look at options, whether that’s adjusting the timeframe, creating exceptions, or rethinking how we define “fresh.” :::::On the second point: to address concerns about articles being incorrectly tagged, it would help if people could provide concrete examples. That’s not to assign blame, but to understand where the process may be breaking down so we can improve it. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 21:16, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::::::Re: problem 1, I will trust you to create the discussion in what you think is the appropriate venue (among those listed above) and I will join in. ::::::Re: problem 2, I did post a few links above of a very specific re-marking of stale against your personal request. Regarding the others, I'm not actually sure what is considered appropriate marking of staleness - which is what brought me here in the first place. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 21:29, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::::::: > ''I will trust you to create the discussion in what you think is the appropriate venue (among those listed above) and I will join in.'' It’s generally best for the person who feels most strongly about a change to open the discussion. That way they can frame the problem and desired outcome clearly from the outset. For my part, I believe our [[WN:Freshness]] guideline remains adequate as written. ::::::: That said, I think our immediate priority should be a deeper examination of how [[WN:Archive]] and [[Wikinews:Reviewing articles]] interact, as I originally proposed here: [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#Proposed next steps following SPTF recommendations]]. That proposal was later split by another contributor into three separate ones and not characterized as originally intended by me, an example of the kind of procedural friction I mentioned earlier. ::::::: I still believe we can, and must, work on multiple fronts at once. A thorough review of archiving and reviewing policy is overdue. But if the community feels that updating [[WN:Fresh]] is the more urgent task, then someone should start that conversation, and I will participate actively in it.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 21:57, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::::::::"and not characterized as originally intended by me, an example of the kind of procedural friction I mentioned earlier" was not on purpose, you are welcome to reword the three pieces I put into the discussion if any of them was not written properly. I only wanted to split the discussion, but not to mis characterize it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:40, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :Noting that today morning about 16 hours ago I had a look at [[Newsroom]] and it has a list of pages submitted for review. They are listed without indication of the event date for them. So I cannot even pick which one is the freshest or the stalest, to review it. This issue was here for years. I proposed an improvement for it, which is discussed [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T397853 here]; if someone has a way to progress it, it would be appreciated. :-) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 09:36, 9 October 2025 (UTC) === Status Oct 10 === i did manually, see [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gryllida/Newsroom&oldid=4884856 here], apparently nothing fresh now except one festival story, i welcome everyone to jump onto it and refresh it to report on festival itself and/or clarify the 'controversy' dates. everything else is over 5 days old. apart from the festival story the site is empty, no content was added. please ping me if that changes. thanks! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:02, 10 October 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] @[[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] @[[User:Back ache|Back ache]] @[[User:Md Mobashir Hossain|Md Mobashir Hossain]] @[[User:Almondo2025|Almondo2025]], @[[User:Dsuke1998AEOS|Dsuke1998AEOS]], @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]], @[[User:Monsieur2137|Monsieur2137]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], @[[User:Excelblue|excelblue]] (if you want yourself removed or someone else added to this list, please inquire [[Template talk:Pingrr|here]]) [[Category:Revision requested]] A revision has been requested. Here is a list of what to do. (If/when you intend to start working on it, please '''Subscribe to this section and to this talk page''', and post reply messages here when you started and finished editing) See below: :[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], [[User:Gryllida|RockerballAustralia]], [[User:Gryllida|Michael.C.Wright]], [[User:Gryllida|Bddpaux]], [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] :1. View the link 'here' provided above and leave a comment if you would like to salvage a story :2. Revise the festival controversy story as per the comment linked on its talk page. :Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:04, 10 October 2025 (UTC) == You're opinion on this == https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Severe_Weather_Hits_South_Island I used 100% AI. Probably will be deleted then, ill try to write in my own words next time!!! Thanks @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:09, 21 October 2025 (UTC) :sorry, away from reviewing till mid November or so,can do earlier but then will risk a mental issue, please query at [[WN:Water cooler]], thanks. i will ask a friend to have a look [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 03:38, 21 October 2025 (UTC) ::Get better soon @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 11:18, 21 October 2025 (UTC) == Best way to handle?? == At [[Wikinews:Admin action alerts/Requests]], there is an Admin. action request pertaining to "Sexy video clips...." article. The top most source article has totally vanished and the bottom two are in Dutch. Not sure about the best course of action there.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:01, 3 November 2025 (UTC) :Was this already deleted? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:25, 17 November 2025 (UTC) == Award == Not sure how, but we missed awarding this... {|style="border: 8px solid gray; background-color: #fdff7;" |rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[Image:Pencil tip closeup 2.JPG|160px]] |rowspan="2" | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 2; vertical-align: middle; height: .4em;" | '''The Order of the Humble Pencil''' For completing ''5 edits''. |- |style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Great work! Keep it up!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:07, 14 November 2025 (UTC) |} :Thanks @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]], we both are in the Order now. :-) Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:24, 17 November 2025 (UTC) == New Taglet?? == Thanks -- I think I did it correctly. What is supposed to look/act different now?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:23, 17 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]: Taglet is not installed. Do you want me to install it for you? -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 16:14, 17 November 2025 (UTC) :Yes. I thought I followed the steps properly. Apparently, I didn't.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:16, 17 November 2025 (UTC) ::{{Done}}. Now visit [[Special:TagletReport|Special:TagletReport]]. Wait a few seconds for it to load, and you will see a formatted table report. For information about what this report is and how to tag, see the [[User:Asked42/Taglet|documentation]]. Thanks. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 16:22, 17 November 2025 (UTC) == Veterans Day article == Meant to do better/earlier work on this. If it doesn't pass, no big deal. I've been busy.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:25, 17 November 2025 (UTC) :Please leave a note when done, i will have a look. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 10:00, 18 November 2025 (UTC) == QuasselDroid == Can you tell me more about that? And: I love Thunderbird!!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:55, 17 November 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]], [[:w:Quassel IRC]], i run it on my server and am happy to make you an account. I will send you an email with login info. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 09:59, 18 November 2025 (UTC) :Are you on discord or telegram or viber or matrix by any chance? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 10:01, 18 November 2025 (UTC) == [[Current New York Police Department commissioner agrees to stay on for Mamdani's mayoralty]] == I saw that this article got published, but it did not get placed in one of the five lead slots on the main page. Was that intentional or has it just not been done yet? At this time, with less than one article being published per day, I think every article that gets published should appear among the lead slots. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 13:57, 20 November 2025 (UTC) :Was done with a delay. Could you please update the image there? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:34, 21 November 2025 (UTC) ::Image updated. [[File:Smiley.svg|24px]] [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 02:59, 23 November 2025 (UTC) == IRC meetup == I will check my email about the QuasselDroid thing...... On Sunday, I am 90% sure I will not be able to be a part of an IRC meetup, though. It is Thanksgiving week in the US plus I have loads of work stuff going on. I very much think a meetup is a good idea -- I am just too swamped at the moment. Sorry.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:29, 24 November 2025 (UTC) :Can do it the next Sunday after if you like? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 10:11, 25 November 2025 (UTC) == A new version of EzPR == Hi, a new version of the Easy Peer Review script has been prepared. Built on the legacy of the current version, it includes more features and has a more modern look and design. If you are interested, you can try it out and let me know what you think [[User talk:Asked42/EPR (new version)|on this talk page]]. If you have any suggestions, please feel free to share them as well. This is currently an initial testing version. After installing the script, you can test it on any of your user sandbox pages (make sure the page contains the {{tl|review}} template). You may need to set up your sandbox to look like a draft article. If you don't want to do that extra work, you can instead try it on [[User:Asked42/sandbox2|my sandbox page]] to see how the script behaves in different situations, such as pass review, fail review, exception review, etc. I haven't prepared any documentation pages yet since it's still too early and more modifications may be needed. So you'll have to follow your intuition while testing it (I will try to prepare some basic documentation soon). Hopefully this won't be too difficult, as I have tried to keep the design simple. Still if you need help or don't understand something feel free to ask me. To install it, copy the code and add it to [{{fullurl:Special:MyPage/common.js|action=edit}} your common.js page]. You will then see a "Review (EPR v2)" option in your p-tb (or your tools menu) on any user-namespace page that contains the review template. After clicking the option a form should appear on the article. <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" copy> {{subst:lusc|1=User:Asked42/EPRv2.js}} </syntaxhighlight> --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:46, 19 November 2025 (UTC) :You can find some information about some of the features at [[User:Asked42/EPR (new version)]]. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:47, 19 November 2025 (UTC) ::Thanks. I will check it out. I got feedback from Wikipedia that it is better not to have markup inside of a page because then the user may have issues with how to remove it to re-submit for review. I think it is best to only do this on the talk page. I will try it out and will let you know. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 10:01, 20 November 2025 (UTC) :Thanks. It would be good to have documentaton. And also I think it would be good to have software in Wikinews namespace (or whatever location gadgets are in) rather than user space unless there is a specific issue with doing that. Please keep me updated. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 09:59, 20 November 2025 (UTC) ::More clarification on what I wrote, there are 'Gadgets', they are easy to enable in Special:Preferences page. I think tools like this which are open for beta testing could just be added there as it is easy to find the script there and get started using it without manually copy pasting things. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 10:02, 20 November 2025 (UTC) :I added it to my common.js and now I am not seeing any UI. Even my existing 'Review' link disappeared. (I am using Timeless skin.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 10:16, 20 November 2025 (UTC) ::No it did not disappear but I don't see where the new one appeared... ::Regarding new template wordings and changes, in the 'review' template, I did not like that 'Pre-Review' became a thing now, it is more important to jump in and edit, or maybe 'go through a checklist', pick a verb that emphasizes that this is something that the user (including original author) is encouraged to do before submitting for review. I am not sure how to phrase this more clearly. I will leave a note if I come up with a more specific description. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 10:19, 20 November 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Let me answer these one by one: :::# "I got feedback from Wikipedia that it is better not to have markup inside a page because users may have issues removing it before re-submitting for review." - The markup feature is completely optional for reviewers. They can turn it off if they don't want to use it and no markup will be added. Also, the markup related part is only a very small portion of the script. :::# About making it a gadget: Yes, we can turn it into a gadget, but since this is an initial version, it's better for users to test it first, let us refine the code, and then implement it as a gadget once a final, stable version is ready. I don't think it is good practice to add beta versions of scripts directly as gadgets. :::# How to test it: You can try the script on [[User:Asked42/sandbox2]] or on any of your own sandbox pages (just make sure they include the review template). On those sandbox pages, you will find an option called "Review (EPRv2)" in your "Page tools" menu (left sidebar). :::## This will not affect the current EzPR gadget in any way. :::## The script is currently allowed only in the user namespace for testing. Once ready, it will be enabled for use on articles. :::#About Pre-review: I have nothing to add regarding pre-review. Just to clarify: pre-review is not part of the new version of Easy Peer Review. It is handled by a different script. The pre review process already existed on Wikinews long before I joined; I only created a form-based interface to make pre review easier. :::-- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:51, 20 November 2025 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], If you have any other questions about the script or maybe criticisms, feel free to share them. I will try to put together proper documentation as soon as I can. But as I mentioned earlier, I believe the interface of the reviewing form isn't too complicated (though that may feel different from person to person). -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:57, 20 November 2025 (UTC) ::::Ohh ok only in userspace. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:37, 21 November 2025 (UTC) ::::I opened https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Asked42/sandbox2 I don't see the new review button. [[File:Sad-face.png|24px]] [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 02:57, 23 November 2025 (UTC) :::::apologies for the issues. It should be available in the "Page tools" sidebar when using the Timeless skin. Could you please check again? Scroll down the left sidebar, and under "Page tools" you should see the option "Review (EPRv2)". I hope it works now! -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 06:56, 23 November 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] :-) I checked it out, I disagree with 'enter text from the article' and 'enter comment for this text'. It would be much easier if the tool interactively added these entries when user selected a text on the page. Copy pasting the text from article into a box is inefficient and time consuming. Will note more things later, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:07, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :Hi again @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] :-) :1. FYI I suggest '''more compact''' feedback in 'issue, reason, suggested fix' but in more compact format. Example :# The article has grammar errors in paragraph one. They should be fixed. :# The article names person X as John. This is incorrect. They are named Rob. :# ... :So for template I would put this :---- :The article has several issues requiring revision. Starting from major issues, followed by minor issues, they are listed below. :# (This part of report) has (this issue) This should be (describe requested fix here) :#   :#   :#   :#   :----- :2. I would suggest making it possible for a reviewer to define their own templates in their user space. Like a button '+-' in the templates insert dialog. I know this kind of defeats the purpose but in my experience each reviewer has their own preferences about the way they phrase their feedback. Or some particular way to phrase things. :3. Suggest the templates insert themselves on '''double click''' so I don't have to waste time clicking a template name and then clicking 'insert'. :4. Suggest that when saving the review, the tool automatically highlights the users who previously contributed to the article, in the edit summary. :It is still early in the morning so please excuse me if I missed something. :Many thanks for this, it is amazing tool. :Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:14, 25 November 2025 (UTC) ::For 2, if some of custom templates from a reviewer make sense, can be added to templates for all. Just clarifying this point; I do not expect it to be a pathway to endless differences. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:14, 25 November 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: thank you for trying this out. ::# Regarding: "''It would be much easier if the tool interactively added these entries when the user selected text on the page.''" ::#: Implementing interactive text selection would require significantly more effort and additional lines of code, especially considering that the sentence-marking feature itself is still uncertain in terms of how useful or widely used it will be during reviews. At this stage, I think it may not be practical to invest heavily in building this interactive functionality without knowing whether sentence marking will be used frequently. ::#:It might be best to first observe whether multiple reviewers actually use the sentence-marking feature. If it proves useful, we can certainly consider adding interactive selection in a future update. Personally, I don't think it will be too inconvenient for reviewers to copy and paste specific text manually, usually there will only be a few sentences to mark, perhaps 4-5 at most. But I may be wrong, so let's see how the feature is adopted and then evaluate improvements. ::# Regarding the comment templates: the template you are referring to is [[Template:CommentTemplate/1]]. All comment templates should follow this format, such as [[Template:CommentTemplate/2]], [[Template:CommentTemplate/3]], and so on. If you would like to modify or create new ones, you are very welcome to do so. I'd greatly appreciate it if you create more comment template formats. ::# The idea of allowing users to define their own templates is interesting. I will consider how this could be added and integrated into the script. ::# For the fourth point: could you please give an example of such an edit summary? ::--[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 20:40, 25 November 2025 (UTC) == Wikinews future status == I really hope Wikinews stays alive! Is there anything else we can do to help? @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:51, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :Stay tuned and find volunteers for helping different part of [[Wikinews:Migration]]. Also join: IRC, Telegram, Discord, any other place where contributors are discussing in real time. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:42, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] Furthermore, my friend, this is not the end. Many people, including myself, will continue our efforts and try negotiations. It's crucial that you continue to actively follow and participate in the discussions on Metawiki! Thank you. [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 10:19, 27 November 2025 (UTC) == A Barnstar for you! == [[File:Original_Barnstar.png]] Thank you, for all the diverse work you do, you are the backbone of our team. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 10:30, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 08:19, 30 November 2025 (UTC) == Your article submission for review (December 3) == {{Notify_review/notready|article=Earthquake and floods devastate Sumatra, Indonesia|author=Gryllida|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 18:02, 3 December 2025 (UTC) == Your article submission for review (December 14) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Battery explosion triggers fatal office fire in Jakarta’s Kemayoran district|author=Gryllida|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 00:40, 15 December 2025 (UTC) == Your article submission for review (December 15) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=NBI seeks Interpol Red Notice for former lawmaker Zaldy Co|author=Gryllida|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 18:43, 15 December 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Kennedy Center gets renamed to Trump-Kennedy Center]] (December 26) == The article has been published. Congratulations. The following edits were made by reviewer: 1) Article body written in past tense 2) External links moved to a section called 'External links' 3) Rearranged to specify the date in the first paragraph, see [[WN:IP|inverted pyramid]] Please keep these comments in mind when writing or editing articles in the future. The following notes were left by reviewer: 1) The previous review raised concern about bias in words such as 'many' in 'many commenters' or 'illegal in many ways', it was disappointing that this was not addressed at time of submitting for review. 2) Article was written on time and submitted on Dec22, which is not excellent for a Dec19 event, but is good. It is on the edge of being stale now, as is is already Dec25, and I am making the decision to pass. 3) Please write article about what happened, whether the rename was approved by authorities. Has there been any recent updates? Please consider revising more thoroughly before re-submitting for review; writing up a story and submitting for review sooner and closer to the event date; and also consider writing a article about updates, if any updates were available, immediately after these updates occurred. Many thanks. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:47, 25 December 2025 (UTC) == Merry Christmas == Hope you're having a good day! Thanks for everything you do. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:24, 25 December 2025 (UTC) :and have a good new year's! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:26, 25 December 2025 (UTC) ::Hi [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], thank you! Merry Christmas, and happy upcoming New Year, to you and your family, also. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:28, 25 December 2025 (UTC) == Reviews == Thanks for the constant help on published material! Well done! @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:04, 26 December 2025 (UTC) == IP is flooding RC == @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:23, 29 December 2025 (UTC) :~2025-42360-72 @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:32, 29 December 2025 (UTC) ::Please let me know if this is still an issue. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:34, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == [[Domestic call in Rochester, New York leads to three police officers being shot]] == There was a problem with this article when it was published, and now it has been protected and thus can't be corrected without being unprotected. The shooter's name is given only as "Davis" with no first name. In fact, the cited sources don't even mention his last name, although I have found other sources such as https://www.fingerlakes1.com/2025/12/25/ag-probes-fatal-rochester-police-shooting/ which identify him by his full name Eric Davis. I have already commented to [[User:Michael.C.Wright]] and [[User:BigKrow]] about this problem. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:30, 30 December 2025 (UTC) :It is best to comment on article talk page then. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:58, 2 January 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] the article has been retracted, the edit will show to others once someone sighted it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:33, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Keyboardist-guitarist of English rock band The Cure dies aged 65]] (January 3) == Event over 7 days old. Passing as exception in context of following factors * nobody was around on holidays anyway (I am being lenient) * the article is well written * it is obituary about a person's whole life so it is still slightly newsy for a while Please do not consider this as precedent for future articles. Thanks -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:42, 3 January 2026 (UTC) == United States capture Venezuelan president, Nicolás Maduro == Hello [[United States capture Venezuelan president, Nicolás Maduro]], I am working on a more neutral wording regarding the fact.--[[Special:Contributions/~2026-80852|~2026-80852]] ([[User talk:~2026-80852|talk]]) 21:53, 4 January 2026 (UTC) :Thanks. Please remove NYT and any information from it as this paywalled source is not allowed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:02, 4 January 2026 (UTC) :: I already made the change, please check again--[[Special:Contributions/~2026-80852|~2026-80852]] ([[User talk:~2026-80852|talk]]) 22:16, 4 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[United States capture Venezuelan president, Nicolás Maduro]] (January 5) == reviewer left comments: 1) as discussed at the talk page I have had to restore a previous revision which contains the propaganda from both sides (US and the local countries in southern America) 2) i had to add attribution/source 'US President said that ...' to first paragraph to clarify where info came from in case it was fake. i recommend following ADDITONAL edits please do them immediately: 1) merge with the other page to be done within next 12 hours please 2) comment about the president wife having also been captured as i believe this is also the case but headline and first paragraph do not quite mention this i believe Please note the following admin points: * The article is now published, and further changes will require approval from a reviewer. * Changes may only be made for up to 24 hours after publishing. After this time period only minor style/appearance/admin edits are allowed. Content changes will not be allowed after that time. * After a few more days the article will be archived, and will no longer be editable except by sysops. thanks -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:29, 4 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Kyiv street to be named for former Ukrainian parliament chairman Andriy Parubiy, killed in Lviv]] (January 6) == Published with comment 1) Delightful news, thank you for writing about it. I just added street name and 'and on Facebook' in the first paragraph; if this is incorrect, please let me know now. Thank you. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:27, 5 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [["I came to be the manager ... not the coach": Manchester United fire head coach Ruben Amorim]] (January 6) == Published. I needed to make a few edits. 1) restructured paragraphs for [[WN:IP|inverted pyramid]] 2) reluctantly added dates, ideally I should not be involved in editing content. please check that they are correct. if they are incorrect, please correct them now. 3) added [[WN:Attribution|attribution]] to a few points which were just without any context 4) removed a sentence which was [[WN:NPOV|a speculation]] 5) renamed the page to have headline in active voice ([[WN:SG]] or [[WN:CG]] mentions this) Please '''read the article carefully, and, if something is incorrect, edit it now'''. Changes may be made for up to 24 hours after publishing, after which the article will be archived. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 09:27, 6 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Grateful Dead bassist Bob Weir dies, aged 78]] (January 16) == i spelled out group name assuming meant to be 'the Grateful Dead' where says 'the Dead': please correct this now if this is not correct. thanks. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 17:58, 15 January 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father]] (January 19) == {{Notify_review/notready|article=Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father|author=Gryllida|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 14:53, 19 January 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father]] (January 20) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father|author=Gryllida|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 18:09, 20 January 2026 (UTC) == [[User:WeatherWriter]] == Note that the same content is on his user page which you forgot to delete. [[Special:Contributions/~2026-34086-9|~2026-34086-9]] ([[User talk:~2026-34086-9|talk]]) 17:01, 16 January 2026 (UTC) :Update? [[Special:Contributions/~2026-40758-8|~2026-40758-8]] ([[User talk:~2026-40758-8|talk]]) 14:02, 19 January 2026 (UTC) ::Update? [[Special:Contributions/~2026-40758-8|~2026-40758-8]] ([[User talk:~2026-40758-8|talk]]) 20:42, 23 January 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:07, 23 January 2026 (UTC) ::::fixed [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:38, 24 January 2026 (UTC) == Help requested with real time comms == Hi @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] Could you please check the below request and help, or find someone else who can help. There is an admin and review backlog. Real time comms with 2-3 people could help to reduce it. This could be IRC or audio chat. https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Admin_action_alerts/Archive_13#backlog_clearing_meet_1 was previously attempted, however the linked site was confusing to me and I had an IRL backlog that takes away my attention. (I still do.) Any help with getting this one meetup happen, and/or a nicer software for coordinating future online meetups, would be appreciated. Hope you can help. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 09:51, 10 February 2026 (UTC) == Published: [["Media and Tenkil" exhibit opens in Hanau, Germany]] (February 10) == Hello, Sending this message to all contributors to the article... Article has been published. 0) I changed headline and added image attribution for first image. 1) I removed two sentences, as the sources do not have them. Please feel free to re-add with a comment or added source. A. The exhibition seeks public confrontation and healing through these displays. B. The Tenkil Museum, operating as a non-profit with no permanent venue, has previously held exhibitions in Brussels, the European Parliament, Kassel, and Frankfurt. 2) Name of museum is confusing. Is it Tenkil Museum? Museum of Repression? Please check this immediately and comment. 3) Would be good to add one or two comments from some public who visited. 4) Would be good to clarify what "Gülenist" means and/or wikilink. Please make the above edits and comments now, ideally within less than 12 hours. Thank you! -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 10:35, 10 February 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Göbeklitepe, Taş Tepeler and life 12,000 years ago exhibition opens in Berlin, Germany]] (February 11) == Sending to all authors... Published. Please check '''each diff''' in article history, in case i added inaccuracies or confusion. Please check current revision. I edited it because it was not completely consistent with source, in the paragraph mentioning unesco. Please if you are in Berlin, take a photo, even from outside building if inside is not allowed. Edits may be made within next ~24 hours. Thank you. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:01, 11 February 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Poets gather for reading at Ray's Pizza in New York City]] (February 12) == Sending this message to all users who edited the page ... Published. Krinkle says copyright of photos is ok. Suggest to add how long it took, one hour, two hours, or whatever. Suggest to add utc time in parentheses. Minor changes. Can be done in 24hr or less from now. A bit old. Better to write about it on the day, not a week after. OR kind of makes an exception. But this should be considered in future, to write news straight on the day. Thank you! -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:14, 12 February 2026 (UTC) == todo 2026_02_13 note to self == [[Talk:Shooting_at_Benihana_restaurant_in_Maple_Grove,_Minnesota_leaves_one_injured#Correction_issued,_not_sighted]] not sure where correction went or what was not done, to be checked [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 01:22, 13 February 2026 (UTC) == Concerns with review standards == I am raising a concern regarding review standards and adherence to current policy. Several recent issues — including three retraction requests and a correction — have involved unsupported statements remaining in articles after review. Additionally, you have publicly stated that you do not perform full verification as part of your review process and have proposed reducing verification expectations in the review workflow. Those proposals have not achieved consensus and have received pushback from other reviewers. For clarity: Under [[WN:REV]], reviewers are responsible for verifying that all factual claims in an article are supported by the cited sources prior to publication. [[WN:CS]] requires that published content be accurate and verifiable. [[WN:Archive]] presumes that archived articles reflect a fully reviewed and source-supported record. Until these policies are changed by consensus, they remain binding. Review standards cannot be unilaterally reinterpreted. Accordingly, I am requesting that future reviews fully comply with existing verification requirements. If there is a desire to formally redefine the scope of review, that discussion should occur at the policy level and reach clear consensus before being implemented in practice. Please confirm that future reviews will adhere to current policy standards.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 18:02, 7 February 2026 (UTC) :I do not believe a 100% to the letter check was done by any previous reviewer. Changing that approach requires a discussion. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 02:49, 9 February 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] :* I couldn't reply to those article quality concerns that you raised in last year individually, I was sick for a month last month and had around two major circumstances change in my personal life last year each of which required at least a few months effort each. If you wish, I can revisit these discussions and reply to them now. :* There is ongoing discussion about this at [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#RfC_from_reviewers%3A_verifiability_policy]], hope it can undie itself. I tagged it with {{tl|flag}}, now. :Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:03, 9 February 2026 (UTC) :For the record, i think the question is invalid ... before asking such question it is required to provide and discuss examples here. As stated above, I was not asked to give my feedback on any corrections/retractions here. They were actioned and archived in my absence. Hope this is something you can look into on next occurrence/concern, @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:41, 9 February 2026 (UTC) :: Does [[WN:REV]] require verification of all factual claims against cited sources prior to publication?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 13:54, 12 February 2026 (UTC) :::Yes it does with a few complications... :::* What does a reviewer do if the article is three pages long and is a 'news' i.e. time sensitive :::* How time sensitive a report is the one you are or I am reviewing :::* What does a reviewer do if a piece of information was not possible to verify and is not essential :::* What does a reviewer do if a piece of information was not possible to verify and is essential :::* How to define this essential :::* Does any of the above justify doing a 'supposedly incomplete' review :::* If yes, then how incomplete may it be :::* How actionable the review should be :::* Whether a reviewer may speak from 'we' voice of Wikinews as a 'we Wikinews reviewers' in talk pages, or in reviews :::* whether a reviewer may say 'our policies' or 'Wikinews policies' and how this connects to 'we' and 'I' in talk pages and in reviews :::* Maybe something else I forgot :::These are all open questions and answering them may require a seeming policy violation, yet. In my view, there are a number of practices done for over a decade and just because the policy says something does not mean a current practice must be changed. They are also context sensitive questions. :::If there is a specific article where you are concerned about review quality I am happy to have a look, please let me know! :::Hope it helps. I am open to further discussion! :::Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 01:03, 13 February 2026 (UTC) :::: [[WN:REV]] provides the following answer to all of the questions above: ''The reviewer should check that all information in the article is fully sourced.'' :::: As written, it allows for no nuance with regards to how much verification we perform, given any number of hypothetical scenarios one might dream up. :::: Dealing with the results of a partial (and disputed) review process conducted by only one reviewer has resulted in repeated post-publication remediation by the community. :::: So far, the two proposals to reduce the verification requirement have received no support from the community: :::: ::::* [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance/archives/2024/November#Mailing_lists|October 2024]] ::::* [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Proposed_change_to_review_process_by_Gryllida_Version_202512|January 2026]] :::: :::: If the '''community''' believes the current standard is too high, then the policy should be formally amended. Until then, the written policy governs review.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 02:55, 13 February 2026 (UTC) :::::Hi [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] :::::* I don't think standard is too high, just nuances have existed for a while just were not documented. I do not agree with you that the nuances should not be allowed. :::::* If you felt a particular article quality was too low after I published it, let me know and allow me time to respond. :::::* I was frustrated by some related conversations being archived or not brought up on my talk page despite me having reviewed the article, I just lost them and do not remember anything of them because they were not properly discussed with me. :::::Hope this is helpful, I am happy to discuss further. :::::Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:02, 13 February 2026 (UTC) :::::: > ''If you felt a particular article quality was too low after I published it, let me know and allow me time to respond.'' I have disagreed with the proposed, lower level of verification for years, possibly starting [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance/archives/2024/November#c-Michael.C.Wright-20241020142100-Gryllida-20241020021900|here]], but also [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance/archives/2024/November#c-Michael.C.Wright-20241024140100-Mailing_lists|here]], [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260107223800-Votes|here]], [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2025/June#c-Michael.C.Wright-20250603160200-GreekApple123-20250603140900|here]], and [[Wikinews:Deletion requests/Archives/2026#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260119153000-Gryllida-20260118153200|here]], to point to just a few. :::::: Also, the reader is the first priority. If there are problems with a published article, we should not wait on a single contributor to correct an error. If you follow your own advice on [[Wikinews:Watching pages]], you'll know when issues are being discussed on the talk page or various operational pages such as [[WN:DR]]. It is your own responsibility to ensure you stay up to date with the project. :::::: The only way I would personally support a lower level of verification is if we first required in-line citations for stated facts. Then any disputed statements of fact that do not include an in-line citation can be readily removed as part of the review process. And even then, as a journalism project first and wiki project second, I would have serious reservations and would likely request a trial period to gauge the results. :::::: And again, it is the community's decision, not yours or mine alone.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 16:05, 13 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::If I had a dozen proposals you disagreed with, it does not answer the question I was asking. Watching pages is helpful, but is not a substitute for opening a new section at this page for each of my reviews that went bad, as that issue is bothering you a bit more than a mention... [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 09:06, 14 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::: This wouldn't be such an issue except that the 5w-only review process causes problems that others have to fix. If the 5w-only review process improved the project, we wouldn't still be debating it. You have twice proposed the same change to policy and after it has not been accepted by the community, you have unilaterally decided to put the change into practice. You have justified the use of a 5W-only review process variously, as follows: <ul><li>"...partly due to my medical issues and partly due to my preference..."[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#c-Gryllida-20260111133600-Tduk-20260110041300]</li></ul> <ul><li>"I do not think the current policy requires 100% coverage of fact check."[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#c-Gryllida-20260111155700-Michael.C.Wright-20260111154200]</li></ul> <ul><li>"I believe that doing 100% verification was not common practice."[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#c-Gryllida-20260112210400-Michael.C.Wright-20260112174200]</li></ul> <ul><li>"I don't believe this is realistic to expect a reviewer to check 100% of the content in an article unless someone is hired to do such extensive reviews..."[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#c-Gryllida-20260111163400-RfC_from_reviewers:_verifiability_policy]</li></ul> Many of those justifications contradict each other or otherwise defy logic. I find this tactic of shifting blame anywhere other than where it belongs to now be of bad faith. I am not the first reviewer to [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance/archives/2024/November#c-Heavy_Water-20241022164600-Gryllida-20241021221200|disagree with your use of this pseudo-review process]]. Choosing not to follow established policy, then citing the resulting difficulties as proof that the policy is unworkable, effectively uses noncompliance as an argument for change. That runs counter to [[WN:POINT]], which prohibits disrupting or disregarding policy to make a point: <blockquote>Discussion, rather than unilateral action, is the preferred means of changing policies, and the preferred mechanism for demonstrating the problem with policies.</blockquote> It offers the following example, which matches the behavior identified here: <blockquote>If you wish to change an existing procedure or guideline...<ul><li>do set up a discussion page and try to establish consensus.</li><li>don't push the existing rule to its limits in an attempt to prove it wrong, or nominate the existing rule for deletion.</blockquote></li></ul> This has become disruptive to the project on many levels and is now in violation of [[WN:POINT]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 16:48, 14 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] :::::::::# It is difficult to discuss these examples, they are from separate articles. Have they been addressed somehow, or do they still require action now? :::::::::# I do not agree with the claim that I decided to 'put them into practice' (about 'review only 5W [and plagiarism]') for all future submissions. I could do this, however, if required in the context of a given event, a given report and a given timing. I did it a few times in the past and I saw some other people do the same. I do not think that it would constitute a policy violation. Even though that is not documented. The reason why I do not think this would constitute policy violation is because I am still waiting for comments from other reviewers about their reviewing practices. Without that comment it is pretty hard to continue this discussion. :::::::::# I refuse to engage into further discussion about "Hi, you must be <new or disruptive> here, go read the documentation". It is an eye sore. I am not a nuisance here and I am not doing arbitrary changes. :::::::::# If you wish further discussion, you need to put it about each '''''article issue''''' separately in a new section on my talk page. Again, I refuse to engage into "hey your review quality is bad in general". Issue needs to be discussed for each article. Maybe after substantial amount of issues and they recurring the discussion could be opened again. :::::::::# I do not agree that I must stay up to date with whole project. I tried and I opened a discussion when it was already archived, it was from a mention notification. I can stay up to date but there is a limit on my time available and I will read some notifications a week or two later. If the issue is important and urgent and requires substantial amount of reading or writing or thinking/processing, it needs to be mentioned on my talk page. :::::::::# I also maintain my desire to propose further changes to relax reviewing. There may be another dozen or two of such proposals and complementing software being developed. This should not strengthen your position about my bad quality of reviews. The only point that will strengthen this position is issues in articles being identified. :::::::::# I maintain that this is yourself that increased review standard. There was written policies in the context of the late @[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] being available 16 hours a day. Other reviewers (apart from Pi zero) have not been that thorough to my understanding and I believe it was not a major issue. The requirement to be that thorough for all with a post mortem being done at time of archival is a workflow change and I do not think it was discussed anywhere or approved in consensus. :::::::::# This will be especially valuable if these issues are identified within less than 24 hours after publishing, because this is when the article receives the most readers. :::::::::Hope this is helpful. Please note I was thinking out loud and some of the statements may be imprecise. I was not enjoying these notes because it were things which are self obvious and in Wikinews there is a guideline to work towards quality of news, not towards quality or volume of meta discussions. I would appreciate if the meta discussions were kept to a minimum. In an effort to reduce my burn out, I may wish to postpone my further involvement in this discussion to a minimum, and I may just be able to respond to comments which actually involve inquiry about a current article. :::::::::I am still open to discussion of the above issues as I am hoping that this discussion may come up with substantial changes that can be done either to articles or to workflows if needed. :::::::::Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:46, 14 February 2026 (UTC) :::::I think a balance needs to be struck between the quality of our output (and therefore the rigor of reviews) and the amount of time the community can actually spend on maintaining standards. As of now, you seem to be the most active and rigorous around here, but if no one else is able or willing to hold articles to the same standard you do, then you're only placing a larger burden on yourself. To be clear, I believe community standards ''should'' be upheld, but the reality is that it may not be feasible to do so given our lack of human resources. I appreciate and admire the work you do and wish you all the best. [[User:HKLionel|HKLionel]] [[User talk:HKLionel|TALK]] 08:25, 13 February 2026 (UTC) :::::: > ''but if no one else is able or willing to hold articles to the same standard you do, then you're only placing a larger burden on yourself.'' We don't know that I'm the only active reviewer with high standards. The RfC linked above has not received ''any'' responses from other reviewers, even after a month, even after over 20 individual pings, a flag, and continued pressing by the OP. The cause of the lack of response is likely manyfold but can not be discounted or dismissed. :::::: I do not deny the burden of full verification. In fact I acknowledge[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael.C.Wright/Review_process_study/Reviewer_lane#Biggest_hurdle] it. But I do find it to be a ''minimum'' requirement of a journalism project. I think it is grossly irresponsible, even unethical for a journalism project to explicitly state that not all facts in our articles will be verified. :::::: I believe journalists, to include ''citizen journalists'', have an ethical imperative to "[t]ake responsibility for the accuracy of their work."[https://www.spj.org/spj-code-of-ethics/][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 17:16, 13 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::Well, not like inactive reviewers with high standards are helpful to the project. Yes, so we should always aim higher for our quality and standards, we just need to determine how high and if everyone is aiming high enough. [[User:HKLionel|HKLionel]] [[User talk:HKLionel|TALK]] 20:12, 13 February 2026 (UTC) ::::3-4: I don't see how anything would be impossible to verify. I doubt dead links are used here due to the need for new sources, and editors with access to paywalled sources should be able to provide quotations that support their claims. ::::5: I believe anything controversial should need to be verified, as neutrality is of the utmost importance. ::::6: Yes, corrections and/or retractions may take up even more time than if a thorough review was completed in the first place. ::::9: I don't see why anyone should be able to claim to represent the perspective of an entire group. ::::10: Yet policies & guidelines are (as far as I'm concerned) vetted by the community, so I don't see why not. However, P&Gs are applied through individual interpretations, so I believe single-person should be used in communication. [[User:HKLionel|HKLionel]] [[User talk:HKLionel|TALK]] 08:19, 13 February 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Sanae Takaichi leads LDP to victory in 2026 Japanese election]] (February 19) == {{Notify_review/notready|article=Sanae Takaichi leads LDP to victory in 2026 Japanese election|author=Gryllida|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 15:24, 19 February 2026 (UTC) :Issues: Stale & unattributed analysis - ok. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:46, 19 February 2026 (UTC) == Contact == I received your voice message. Feel free to leave any messages here at WN on my Talk page.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:26, 19 February 2026 (UTC) :wanted real time contact can do any time including my night - this is for collaborative editing of draft. thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:01, 20 February 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Wildfires burn across parts of US states of Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas]] (February 20) == {{tl|Notify_review/notready|article=Wildfires burn across parts of US states of Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas|author=Gryllida|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 02:06, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :Partially done: i revised and left as bit up to local contributor to address. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:23, 21 February 2026 (UTC) == Revision requested: [[Tarique Rahman forms new BNP government in Bangladesh]] (February 21) == {{Notify_review/notready|article=Tarique Rahman forms new BNP government in Bangladesh|author=Gryllida|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 16:46, 21 February 2026 (UTC) == Let's try and start over please... == im willing to work with you, I apologize for my actions like biting your head off sorry hope you can accept my apology. Thank you @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 19:40, 27 February 2026 (UTC) :Hey I was not offended, I am full on to collaborate and edit together. May be a bit away on weekend as I will be driving. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:53, 27 February 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[Musical performance presented by Striped Light in Long Island City, New York showcases four performers]] (February 28) == {{Notify_review/passed|article=Musical performance presented by Striped Light in Long Island City, New York showcases four performers|author=Gryllida|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|is_author=no}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 15:57, 28 February 2026 (UTC) :Ok good [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:34, 28 February 2026 (UTC) :I suggest the template to include link to article talk page, so I can check out review comment more easily. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:36, 28 February 2026 (UTC) == Unilateral undeletion == In [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=4246553 this diff] you again undeleted an article you originally authored and intend to continue developing. It was deleted as part of the normal, [[WN:PROD]] process on March 3. You previously undeleted the same article [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=4238569 diff] nearly two weeks ago. [[Wikinews:Undeletion guidelines]] states: Articles which were deleted following process should only have an undeletion '''request''' [emphasis added] if they were "wrongly" deleted, such as being speedy deleted or on deletion requests without a tag or input from the community. No undeletion request was filed and both deletion processes followed policy. In the most recent, the article was marked as abandoned on the 27th and not deleted until the 3rd (four, instead of two days after the warning). The article's content has not been edited since February 20 and is therefore still considered abandoned. This is an administrative action taken on a page where you are the author, which conflicts with the expected separation between administrative tools and personal editing interests. The article should remain deleted unless an undeletion request is made. This is not how story development or undeletion is normally handled under [[WN:PROD]]. Non-administrators cannot undelete articles at will; administrators should not do so either.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 19:25, 4 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi :1. It was original reporting which should normally not be deleted and should be userified. :2. There was a note on the talk page saying that I am waiting for my interviewee to provide some information before I submit for review. This is still the case. :3. As a result I believe it was deleted 'out of process' and no consensus was required for undeletion. :I wish to engage in no further discussion or further requests for clarification in this here. If you disagree any further, please open a request on some other talk/forum page where other users may provide their responses. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:35, 4 March 2026 (UTC) :: When it was marked abandoned on December 7, it was not marked as original.[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=New_CEO_of_Bureau_of_Meteorology,_Australia,_announces_AU$96.5M_website_upgrade_bill&oldid=4953784] :: Therefore it was originally deleted in compliance with [[WN:PROD]] and should not have been unilaterally undeleted. :: OR is not immune from either [[WN:Freshness]] or [[WN:PROD]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 23:20, 4 March 2026 (UTC) :: I have posted the question to the community: [[Wikinews:Water cooler/policy#Clarification: use of administrative undelete on articles authored by the admin|Clarification: use of administrative undelete on articles authored by the admin]][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 23:41, 4 March 2026 (UTC) :::Agreed that there were two deletions (and two undeletions), and first one was OK, as article was not marked as OR at that time. I believe I should be able to do that undeletion for Gatwick purpose anyway. I replied in water cooler. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:11, 5 March 2026 (UTC) {{od}} I am not sure why it comes off as one of you have a chip on their shoulder. Anyways, can we do it like the way we have always handled OR's instead of breathing down each other's throats? @Gry, you should move OR's your userspace. Please work on it, and submit it for publication when it is ready. @MCW, many a times authors need access to their OR to continue on their story + ORs can be freshened by changing the focus (some interviews don't go stale as quickly as others, like the interviews with Zara Kay and with the HIV-positive sex workers during lockdown). It's been the case that those who can't do it will be requesting an admin, and admins can choose to access it by checking deleted logs, or by moving to their userspace, or changing the focus of the article. In this case, if the focus is not changed, please move it to your userspace, Gry. [[User talk:Acagastya|•–•]] 14:14, 5 March 2026 (UTC) : > ''I am not sure why it comes off as one of you have a chip on their shoulder.'' : I agree and if you are willing to mediate, I think dispute resolution may be in order. We have tried discussing things off- and on-wiki but the broader dispute remains. : > ''can we do it like the way we have always handled OR's instead of breathing down each other's throats?'' : My objection here is that it was not originally OR when first deleted and subsequently undeleted. It was undeleted ''in order to change it to OR.'' Even then, once undeleted, it was neither userified nor further developed. Admin access could have (and probably ''should have'') been used to merely copy/paste the content offline for manipulation into an entirely new article and then submitted when there was content to be verified.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 14:42, 5 March 2026 (UTC) ::So you only object to the first undeletion, and not the second? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 00:40, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :::# yes :::# for your reference, when changing to OR, i don't believe previous edit history should be lost, and i don't believe work should be transferred off-wiki :::# i appreciated @[[User:Acagastya|Acagastya]];s solution, moving to user name space sounds more efficient here to me :::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:57, 6 March 2026 (UTC) ::::I was asking @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] what his objection was to, to understand what is actually supposed to be being discussed here. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 01:19, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :i moved it to user space, it is way more efficient than working offline [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:50, 6 March 2026 (UTC) == Randwick City Council article == I like articles that have "ancillary" source material! Flyers, mailers, guides -- etc.!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 00:11, 7 March 2026 (UTC) :Working on another one about https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-06/moreton-bay-homeless-evictions-supreme-court-decision/106423036 now. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:12, 7 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]], I just submitted it for review -- [[Moreton Bay illegally evicted homeless campers, Queensland Supreme Court rules]]. Please check it out. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:08, 7 March 2026 (UTC) == Recent things == It's late -- I'm tired, so don't read these words with a harsh tone -- they aren't meant that way. Just a 'lite' observation, nothing more. I've noticed (over recent weeks) your nominations/encouragement for certain contributors (new, recently returned, darned near brand new, only show up 3 times per year) to engage in '''cleaning up vandalism''' etc. etc. (I have hardly reviewed most of those peoples' contribution histories, so bear that in mind). I think the trap of "We're so glad you're here!"-mindset can muddy the waters a bit. We're all volunteers -- nobody gets that more than I do. But, I hope we can be very careful with our language for newbies at this place. People have to earn trust at this place; that means putting in the work. They show up, they edit, they engage, they do the things reporters do and ''then'' we start talking about hanging special stickers on their page -- and '''not until they've shown who they are'''. There is a pathway that needs to be followed. I very deeply feel we need to remember our "roots" around here. Who knows what WMF intends for us? ...but journalistic integrity is critical at a place like this. Good things ahead!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 05:09, 8 March 2026 (UTC) :Saw that, thanks mate. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 06:49, 8 March 2026 (UTC) kqe6brr7bqac25te0mbij8hn5mwh38z Wikinews talk:Migration 5 3048959 5005748 5005650 2026-04-07T13:39:34Z Niryhpr 2891357 /* Miraheze */ Reply 5005748 wikitext text/x-wiki <center> <big> Please share your opinion regarding the migration on Meta at [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. </big> </center> = 1. Name and geographical location of new hosting. = I have no idea about this, please advise. How can this be done when half of users have slow internet and are geographically dispersed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :A Meta page has been created for discussion about the migration. Please share your votes and comments there. [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:57, 31 March 2026 (UTC) === Miraheze === :Maybe we could consider migrating to https://miraheze.org/. Their Meta page is here: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Meta. :They provide free hosting, although I am not sure whether we would need to purchase our own domain name. They also do not run advertisements and operate entirely on donations. :However, a major clarification is required: If Wikinews is closed, will the WMF also relinquish copyright to the name 'Wikinews' and its logo? If not, I'm not sure how we could proceed. Perhaps someone with legal knowledge, or someone from the WMF, could advise on this? -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:13, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::Is it easy to install our own mediawiki extensions there. Do they provide shell access. The name question is in section 5 below. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:52, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, almost all MediaWiki extensions are available there. There are also users with strong MediaWiki knowledge who can help us move forward technically. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: "almost all MediaWiki extensions" is an exaggeration. But it is true that Miraheze is significantly more willing to install new extensions than Wikimedia is: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Extensions is an incomplete list. Miraheze, while they won't provide you shell access, will let you self-service many things that require shell access on Wikimedia, such as config changes - they have a fairly flexible https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ManageWiki interface. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|it has begun...]] 03:53, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::::True. What I mean is at least enough to support Wikinews or such that Wikinews is going to need. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:18, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Miraheze might be our last good option just saying. @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:55, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Also, everyone, the WMF board has '''not yet''' made a final decision, and the current community opinion is mostly in our favor, so please don't give up participating in various discussions on metawiki. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 01:02, 1 December 2025 (UTC) ::::They will close WikiNews tomorrow. All pages will be read-only. I can register the wiki at https://wikinews.miraheze.org, if you would like. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:24, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::::To reiterate NotAracham’s comment in this thread, while Miraheze is very willing to provide hosting to Wikinews, we ask that the actual wiki request be submitted by a bureaucrat (or representative of WikiNYC if the WN community choses to pursue an arrangement with them). With all due respect, for the sake of clarify and not making things more confusing for the Wikinews community, we won’t be accepting one-off requests by users that don’t have the backing of the community’s consensus. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 21:26, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::I personally oppose the usage of Miraheze because it contains trackers that are hard for users to disable. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 16:04, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]], what are they tracking and how does this work? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::I forget the exact details because I wrote that message nearly 5 months ago, but I think that it's some sort of analytics ping that you need to block at the browser or DNS level. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 12:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::::We collect minimal aggregate tracking data through cookies for cloudflare + matomo analytics as well as session persistence, @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] would be better positioned to answer this. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy Privacy Policy] also covers our 'when and how' for usage of this data. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::Now I wonder whether the whole Wikinews community will be able to migrate safely as a whole, or whether a ‘big split’ might happen due to differences like this. [[User:Niryhpr|Niryhpr]] ([[User talk:Niryhpr|talk]]) 13:39, 7 April 2026 (UTC) ::If all other measures fail... we might have to try [[w:Fandom (website)|Fandom]]. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:59, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], Wikimedia is hosted in the US due to favorable freedom of speech and copyright laws. A [[w:Content delivery network]] can improve performance around the world, though that doesn't accelerate dynamic content served to users who are logged in. See [[m:Wikimedia servers]] for example. — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:25, 27 November 2025 (UTC) Hi folks, this is NotAracham, Director of Trust & Safety at Miraheze. We've reviewed internally and are confident that we will be able to offer hosting (from both a policy and technical standpoint) should you choose to select us once things are worked out with the WMF. I and my colleagues are happy to answer any questions the WikiNews community might have towards reaching a decision. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :You are a life saver thank you @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:16, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I think we should wait until the final decision of the Board, and if it ultimately is about closing, then I have no objection to migrate. This would be the best second possibility after Wikinews is not getting closed. Thank you for your help. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 19:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Agreed, Miraheze can save us for backup plan @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:26, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I'm an Infrastructure engineer for Miraheze and am also watching this page. You can also find me on Libera.Chat (in both #wikinews and #miraheze) or Discord if you have questions. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], it would probably be a good idea to clarify whether you are talking about English Wikinews or all Wikinews language variants. Also note that ruwikinews has on the order of 1000x more articles than most other language editions. Can Miraheze deal with [[:w:en:Russian web brigades]] ? — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 19:47, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Agreed, we need to focus on English Wikinews. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:59, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Technically, I don't think any of them would be an issue. From a counter vandalism perspective, we would look to how we could support any wiki and make sure you have the tools available that you need. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 20:03, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::I'll defer to my tech colleagues on our technical capacity to host, though the general opinion seems that it would be well within possibility to host the full spectrum of languages if they choose to move to our service. Regarding the counter-vandalism aspect, our service uses Cloudflare (for both default and custom domains) to mitigate DDoS attempts, which has proven unfortunately necessary with some past antagonists. While we have an existing global CVT team to handle the more routine on-wiki trouble, we only have so many members with limited time to offer. It sounds like the Russian wikinews is one of the rare scenarios where it'd be prudent to assign some members of their moderation team [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/CheckUser#Permission delegated local CheckUser]. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 20:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], first let me declare that I don't know for sure how ruwikinews is doing currently. But you should be very careful before assigning CheckUser to anyone involved with Russian projects. The paper bear is certainly interested:<ul><li>[https://fortune.com/europe/2023/04/14/moscow-court-fines-wikipedia-refusing-remove-russia-language-article-invasion-ukraine/ Moscow court fines Wikipedia for refusing to remove a Russian-language article about the invasion of Ukraine]</li><li>[https://www.reuters.com/technology/russia-threatens-fine-wikipedia-if-it-doesnt-delete-false-information-2022-04-05/ Russia threatens to fine Wikipedia if it doesn't delete 'false information']</li><li>[https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/06/23/a89531 Russian Court Fines Wikipedia Operator Nearly $40K Over ‘P***philia Propaganda’]</li></ul>Just don't give CheckUser to the paper bear, as they could use it to prosecute dissenters. As for the current state of ruwikinews, some of the most recent articles:<ul><li>[[:n:ru:Необычный урок патриотизма провёл русский путешественник-экстремал, вернувшийся из Африки]] ([[:n:ru:Категория:Виктор Пинчук (1969)|author]] writing about himself)</li><li>[[:n:ru:В Крыму, расположенном недалеко от района боевых действий, прошла «Ночь искусств»]]: a Chinese Wikimedian, Sheminghui.WU, interviewing that user. Perhaps something is getting lost in translation, because this is the end of the last answer according to Google translate:</li></ul>{{q|1=From my personal observations, the majority of Crimean residents (myself included) are ethnic Russians. Therefore, there has generally always been a negative attitude toward the imposed "Ukrainianism" here. I'm not familiar with cultural life in eastern Ukraine or in the towns located along the front lines, but here in Crimea, everything is peaceful. Enemy drones are being shot down by professionally trained specialists. We will win! Hakuna matata! No pasaran!|4=Виктор Пинчук|5=[https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%92_%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BC%D1%83,_%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC_%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%BE%D1%82_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%8B%D1%85_%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B9,_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%BB%D0%B0_%C2%AB%D0%9D%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%8C_%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%C2%BB]}} derp I have to stop looking at this rabbit hole — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 22:57, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::::Ha, absolutely an area one could spend way too much time digging into, and a very fair point to bring up. Local checkuser has not been given out in the history of Miraheze, and would absolutely be a last resort. While it's a thing we'd ''consider'' if proven necessary, any grants here would have a much higher degree of scrutiny than standard cases given the well-documented hostility of the national actor in question. ::::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 23:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::As Russian Wikinews will also be closed, it will also need a new home. I will wait for their contributors to comment whether they want to do migration together and to the same host. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:04, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :::Correction: *may also be closed [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :Thanks @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]]] and @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] for following this page [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] Dear friend, will other language versions of Wikinews, especially ruwn and zhwn which have more views than enwn, can also be hosted? Thank you. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:48, 29 November 2025 (UTC) ::Yes, we are willing to provide hosting for all language flavors of wikinews should their communities choose to move to our service. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], thank you for your notes. :1. Do you have a comment on @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]]'s concern about trackers? :2. Could you confirm that you do not require content obligations in return, such as, censorship of content or necessitating to include your news on our site? :3. What features do you provide for multilingual content? Currently there are different sysops in each language edition of Wikinews, as they are separate wikis. :Apparently, move needs to happen before May 4 and [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard#Board_of_Trustees_Approves_Closure_of_Wikinews after that date content will be left read-only, here]. I asked whether Wikinews trademark can be used. :Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:56, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::4. In Miraheze can users insert Wikimedia Commons images into new pages? In Wikinews it is possible with same syntax as if it was a local image. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, it is possible to both upload local images and use files from Wikimedia Commons. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::This is cool. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:08, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Cc @[[User:Pppery|Pppery]] thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::# I've asked Rhinos to weigh in on trackers, but generally we collect the minimum data required to operate our service. Information collected in this way is used as described in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy our privacy policy] and is not sent/resold to outside parties. If there are more specific concerns to be discussed, I defer to my tech colleague. ::# We do have some limits on what may be hosted on our service, outlined in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy our content policy]. We also (as a non-profit) cannot host content specifically designed to achieve a political outcome, e.g. supporting a specific candidate or specific legislative action. Beyond these two items, we do not impose any further restrictions on your speech nor will we mandate that specific stories be written. However, it should be made clear, we cannot offer any form of legal cover should authored content result in legal action against the authors by a third party. ::# While we do have the Translate extension, the current structure is likely the cleanest way to continue operating. We do support interwiki/interlanguage linking as well, which can ease connection between versions. ::# Regarding licensing and/or permission for continued use of brand/trademark, that's something the WikiNews community will have to work out with the WMF, we do not negotiate in this way on behalf of our hosted projects. ::I think I've answered everything, but let me know if a question was missed. ::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:26, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Miraheze Tech here. To add to what NotAracham has said, we have [[miraheze:Help:How_to_support_multiple_languages_on_my_wiki|a multi-language guide]] which covers some of the options that are possible on Miraheze: ::# Separate wikis connected via interwiki language links. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are connected via interwiki language links by pointing interwiki links to the same wiki. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are synced with the translate extension. ::# Separate wikis connected via wikibase. I am not aware of any wiki that uses this option, but we do have wikibase available with a few hundred wikis that enabled the extension (whether they use it extensively is another story). I believe this option is what Wikinews uses right now. If there is enough interest, I can see if it is possible to replicate the wikinews setup on Miraheze's wikibase install. ::[[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:36, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::As for trackers, wiki bureaucrats can grant the <code>noanalytics</code> right to everyone (<code>*</code>) with ManageWiki, which will exempt all users from our tracking software (Matomo). I tested it on [https://exttest.mirabeta.org/ Miraheze's extension testing wiki] and am no longer seeing Matomo-related requests for both logged-in and anonymous users. ::With that said, this will only happen on the local wiki. If the user clicks on a link to, for example, the Privacy Policy page which is hosted on Miraheze Meta, they will be subject to the tracker again since it is on a different wiki. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 23:17, 30 March 2026 (UTC) Question; would it be possible to mirrow this wiki, so when i make an edit here, it is also automatically made at Miraheze from my account; is it possible to allow users to login using OAuth so that they do not need to register a new account; what testing is required for a custom extension to be installed on site; where is it located geographically. Does it remain free of charge. how does this organization generate income. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:10, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :# Going to consider this question moot as the WMF-hosted service will go read-only in near future. As mentioned elsewhere, we can assist with attributing edits to the MH-equivalent users following migration where there's interest in doing so. :# We utilize CentralAuth as our account infrastructure, users need only one account for any wiki hosted on our platform. Services can verify the MH account through OAuth as well. We do not, however, support OAuth for Wikimedia project accounts on our platform, a Miraheze account will need to be created. :# Custom extensions will need to go through our security review process, and will generally need to demonstrate some form of global usefulness to be considered for approval. :# We are based out of the United States of America and incorporated in the state of Idaho, the majority of our hardware infrastructure is located in the Salt lake City, Utah area. :# We are a 501(c)3 nonprofit charitable organization, we do not and will not charge for our service, the majority of our funds come from individual user donations. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances are public information], as are our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget/2026 annual budgets]. :--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:44, 30 March 2026 (UTC) In my opinion, miraheze is the most viable path forwards for wikinews. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) IMO moving Wikinews to Miraheze is just swapping one centralized authority for another. You're not fixing the problem, you're relocating it. Instead of the Wikimedia Foundation, you end up under Miraheze's policies, infrastructure, and admins. Different host, same dependency. If Wikinews is supposed to be a truly independent, community-driven news platform, then it needs its own infrastructure and governance - not another host that can pull the plug or change the rules whenever it wants. We don't even know if Miraheze can reliably handle a project of this scale (enwikinews only? all active language versions?). What infrastructure do they actually have? What guarantees are there for long-term stability, performance, and uptime? Calling this a solution is just self-deception. [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 06:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :The existing Wikinews community lacks the capability to do better than Miraheze or even come close. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Loyal opposition here. Sorry your project is closing, I hope you perhaps consider my suggestion to transition to a more news-magazine inspired format on whatever your new host is. But I agree with Bawolff. To quote the former administrator of Earth: May I remind you that the alternative, if it can be called that, is total extinction? [[User:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[User talk:Dronebogus|talk]]) 13:12, 2 April 2026 (UTC) No opinion on whether English (and others, except for ru) Wikinews should go to Miraheze, but certainly '''oppose migration of [[:ru:|ru.WN]] to Miraheze'''. Not exactly sure about conditions as of 2026, but the farm was long known to be dominated by English speakers and had zero representation of the Slavs in its establishment. Their staffers botched and failed import of Absurdopedia (the Russian Uncyclopedia), which eventually became self-hosted. I had some ugly interactions with Mirahezeans, myself. Meanwhile it generally is a respectable farm and I hold specifically {{u|John F. Lewis}}, who made a good job, in respect. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:31, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :Ironic, given the controversies surrounding John (He has a history of abusing positions of trust and got himself office banned from all Wikimedia projects). Regardless, is there another serious offer on the table? Otherwise Miraheze wins by default. Like you've made some comments that imply you might be willing to offer hosting or at least work on this. Are you actually offering to host Wikinews? Does this offer come with strings or financial requirements? Unless other offers materialize with details, it kind of seems like the choice is Miraheze or nothing. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 05:14, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::What would the hardware requirements be for hosting WikiNews? Could the administrators WN provide some more specific information? [[User:Charmeleon69|Charmeleon69]] ([[User talk:Charmeleon69|talk]]) 06:53, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::: Commented [[#hardware|here]] because this isn’t a proper thread. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) = 2. Volunteers willing to pay for new hosting. This can be from charities, Wikimedia Charters, or personal expenses. = I would volunteer towards hosting costs. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :This will not work in my opinion. After all, that's the approach taken for wn-reporters and email, and I think it's safe to say that it hasn't been successful. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 16:32, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::The lowest cost I am aware of would be 25 USD per month, so 300 USD per year. Though it sounds like Miraheze maybe free and I know a few Wikipedians are on their board. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:51, 18 December 2025 (UTC) : If hosting is going to be paid for, I think a new, non-profit organization should be formed, to to handle funding and oversight. If hosting is paid for by one or more individuals who are not organized under a charter or governing structure, it creates obvious risks: lack of accountability, unclear ownership, and potential instability if those individuals step away or disagree. : Forming a new non-profit may be a wise choice even if free hosting is used.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 10:48, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::Based on the [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Public_consultation_about_Wikinews#c-Sj-20260401032800-Victoria-20260330090000 latest developments], it seems that Wikimedia New York City may take on the future stewardship of Wikinews. That would also mean it is managed by an organization and a non-profit. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:27, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::: [[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] [[Wikinews talk:Migration#c-NotAracham-20260405165600-Sj-20260403011300|noted below]] {{tq|Miraheze would not impose a charge to act as host, but as a donor-driven platform, donations are always welcome to help us keep pace with expanding demand.}} ::: That reduces immediate financial pressure on any new organization. It does not address the more fundamental issue. Without the structural oversight and constraints provided by the Wikimedia Foundation, I do not see a viable path forward for en.WN. In its current state, the project has not demonstrated the capacity for consistent and productive self-regulation. ::: If Wikimedia NYC is to assume “stewardship” of Wikinews, that role needs to be clearly defined before any decision to migrate. Specifically, the scope of its authority, responsibilities, and limits should be made explicit to the community. It is also unclear how this arrangement would differ in practice from the current relationship with the Wikimedia Foundation, given that Wikimedia NYC is an affiliated chapter.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 07:45, 6 April 2026 (UTC) = 3. Volunteers willing to do budgeting and acounting: find out how much this will cost. = *I would contribute towards budget efforts .[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) *I might be willing to make a small donation to these efforts, but in terms of time -- I'm not too sure. I intend to take this time to (mostly) step away from most News wiki activities and do a bit of introspection. It's been about 16 years. I want to take a careful look at time/priorities etc.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:45, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:51, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *I suggest opening a donation channel at that time; I can also contribute a spare change. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 06:18, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks Sheminghui [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:59, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *::Do you folks have an NGO yet? If you dont would recommend the USA as the location to be based as fund raising from their is easiest and becoming a 503(c) is not that hard. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:49, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 4. System administration to install software and work around security vulnerabilities = I would contribute towards admin tasks including Linux system administration and MediaWiki [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :Can users use Wikipedia login on an externally hosted wiki? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :: In principle yes you could use OAuth for something like that. One example is at https://mdwiki.org, although in that case they only pre-approve accounts you could configure it differently. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|it has begun...]] 03:55, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anyway can use OAuth to log onto MDWiki with their Wikipedia user name, but you can only edit a couple of pages (your user page and a request for editing page) until you are granted editing privileges. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:46, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :In response to [[ru:User talk:Alexis Jazz#Hello]]: [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], I have no strong ties to Wikinews. Also no knowledge of ru which seems to be the largest wikinews language. And I've always wondered how a news website in wiki form could realistically work as articles likely go stale before they can get improved through the magic of wiki. From the looks of it, this is still an issue. Generally I'm happy to answer some questions, but actually coding for and maintaining a Wikinews successor would be a major undertaking which is not really for me. — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Okay thank you [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]]. What makes improving articles so difficult in wiki? What solution would you suggest? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:00, 29 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], hire some paid editors to write and publish [[w:en:wp:stub|stubs]] for all major news stories throughout the day. That way the site becomes functional as a news source, and the bar to improve a stub is lower than the bar to create an article from scratch. But I don't know who'd be willing to pay for such a thing. Volunteers tend to only write about subjects they care about, and nobody cares about ''everything''. Combined with the presence of a [[w:en:Wikipedia:There is no deadline|deadline]], as news needs to be published before it turns into [[wikt:olds#Noun 2|olds]], it makes a general news wiki very difficult to maintain with just volunteers whose time and interests are limited. — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 15:02, 29 November 2025 (UTC) ::::Maybe news companies could sponsor these editors, and then copy the finished products for their outlets? [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 15:42, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::::i was thinking a tool could at least help with handling the markup if not picking the news events themselves [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:37, 11 December 2025 (UTC) : I can do some Unix, SQL, HTTPd and MediaWiki job. I am the technical director of cyclowiki.org for 4 years. IMHO using Wikimedia SULs on a non-Wikimedia site is a poor choice (not only technically, but in other respects too). [[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 09:08, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]], is it possible though? And what issues would it cause? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:38, 11 December 2025 (UTC) :::It is possible. We at MDWiki do it and we are happy with the results. But than our work is fairly integrated into the Wikipedia work. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:48, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :: I hereby remind of my four-months-old proposal, although am too busy specifically next several days to do anything of value. Give me a Unix shell or an SQL access and I won’t fail you. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 15:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::: Incnis Mrsi is a highly qualified and helpful contributor who has been supporting cyclowiki.org for many years. He's always ready to help in difficult situations, even when many prefer to sit back or remain silent. He's always willing to engage with a wide range of participants and develop any constructive ideas. I think his proposal is worth supporting. [[User:Serebr|Serebr]] ([[User talk:Serebr|talk]]) 03:17, 1 April 2026 (UTC) = 5. Name = No idea if same trademark can be used... [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] as you asked above, FYI there was fork of Wikinews in past, one was called OpenGlobe. If it is same people working on it then I do not mind, any name. For example [[:w:freenode]] moved to [[:w:Libera]] with a name change and successfully moved over 80% of tens thousands users to new site. It would be good to confirm that. Another aspect is in Question 4 whether users will need to register new account. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:54, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::I don't think Miraheze would allow IP's actually Miraheze is a '''wiki farm host'''. Sorry for the excessive pings, @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:58, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fandom_(website) [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:02, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anonymous editing can be enabled or disabled through ManageWiki on Miraheze which is normally open to all crats. ManageWiki is an easy to use extension we built so you can manage some config from on wiki. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::If we move forward with this migration, we will need a new name and logo. ::Any user from here will be able to create an account on the new Wikinews instance on Miraheze. But, there is no automatic way to transfer all existing users with us. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::If Miraheze is chosen, we will work with you guys to ensure you can claim imported edits and have them attributed to a future Miraheze accounts. Of course, you'll need to sign up again. We won't be able to transfer any user preferences or anything from Wikimedia. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: What happens with edits made by users who choose not to join the fork? If they are left as-is, are there processes in place to ensure those usernames are unavailable? For example, If I choose not to join the fork, are all of my current edits still attributed to my username and is that username essentially "taken" on Miraheze so that others can't register my name and claim my edits?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 13:47, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::::They would show an interwiki link back to the archived wikinews. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 15:22, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::This is correct, while edit history can be 'attributed' to Miraheze accounts created following a migration, we don't have a way to reserve usernames/migrate wikimedia logins automatically - it will require individual registration. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: Have you tried implementing OAuth for wikimedia accounts? [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :We have asked Wikimedia what rules would have to be followed if a migration did take place with regard to trademarks. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you all @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::: Related: the broader Wikimedia community should weigh in on where to redirect Wikinews traffic. This is one of the strongest reasons to try something new at the current domains. I would hope the domain is put to use supporting an active community news effort, wherever it is hosted; historical pages can redirect. Unfortunately all of the news-related forks or comparables I know of also closed for lack of activity... [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) There are tools built into mediawiki ie [[Special:Import]] that allows the entire history from one wiki to be moved to another. Lower on [https://mdwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Gout&action=history&offset=&limit=500 this page] you can see what it looks like. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:44, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 6. Other = A small comment I'd like to make is that most interwiki-links on Wikinews (as far as I can see) are the same on Miraheze. (See: [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki Special:Interwiki]) As far as I can tell, this would not affect any of the Wikinews articles, when they are moved to Miraheze. [[User:Rodejong|Rodejong]] ([[User talk:Rodejong|talk]]) 11:50, 28 November 2025 (UTC) = 7. Wikifarm requirements, classes of hosting = One of the sticking points in discussions about the future of Wikinews was what level of hosting and customization was supported or expected; WMF having a high minimum bar for supporting production servers [and hosting all servers on shared infrastructure where a change to one site can throttle or take down others]. A number of community projects have indicated that, e.g., WM Cloud Services is not great for hosting an actively edited wikifarm. But if a number of free knowledge projects need a wiki farm with good archival practices, it might make sense for this to change, or to have an official partnership b/t WMF or the WM affiliate network and such a group. To this end, defining the needed level of service provision (including multilingual support) would be a good step. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:12, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :Would WMCloud be allowed here? WMCloud is supposed to be related to a wikimedia project, if Wikinews gets shutdown its no longer a wikinews project. That said, WM Cloud is probably sufficient to host a wiki the size of Wikinews even with active editing, but it would require sysadmins who know how to manage mediawiki. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :: This question came up in another thread; even if this is possible it would be good to know exactly what level of service is needed for a neutral wikifarm like Miraheze to host WN, what that costs, &c. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 01:13, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::Having already done some discussions and sizing, while the larger news wikis would be substantial adds, none would surpass the larger projects already on our service and we have plenty of capacity to take the entire fleet of Wikinews language families should we be selected. The Miraheze of 2026 is running on a much-improved infrastructure stack over what some might be familiar with from a few years back. :::Miraheze would not impose a charge to act as host, but as a donor-driven platform, donations are always welcome to help us keep pace with expanding demand. :) Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances] and [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget budgets] are public for those interested. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:56, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::::@[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], just throwing it out there but any '''start date''' or url? Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:31, 5 April 2026 (UTC) {{anchor|hardware}}Requirements depend on the fate of the old news. Minor requirements while Wikimedia keeps the archives, but Wikinews would need to maintain or rent a strong database management system if Wikimedia ejects all WN wikis (including the past content, especially of the Russian Wikinews) completely. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) =[[MDWiki:Main_Page]]= We forked health content to MDWiki a few years ago. With respect to cost each Wiki is about 25 to 40 USD/month and this includes updates, sys admin stuff, and security. One gets 10 GB of SDD space and then it is 1$ per GB after that. You get 100 GB of bandwidth after whic it is 0.05$ per GB. Specialied software work is about 100$ per hour but they have limited capacity for this work. With respect to using the name and logo, if you have consensus here to all go in the same direction, I would be supportive. If folks want to go in different directions than things would be a bit more complicated. Do you want to move all languages to a single wiki (less expensive) or keep each language in its own wiki? We use SkizNet which is USA based. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:38, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :Do you have a comment how come Miraheze provides hosting for free, @[[User:Doc James|Doc James]]? Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:32, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: They are also volunteer-based and rely on donations from users to run their servers. See also: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/FAQ -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Like anything else, if you want to do something custom or boss people around you need to pay for it. Miraheze hosting is more similar to WMF hosting where its solid but they aren't going to suddenly bend to your whims if you dont like the existing choices. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:37, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Everyone please check this out! Thank you. == https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/78142 I have requested a new English Wikinews. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :While I appreciate your interest in Miraheze. I do not think it is wise to make a unilateral move when the community is still weighing on the best hosting option. There is still more than a month of time to decide. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Sorry but im pretty sure they have decided. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:45, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], While I appreciate the enthusiasm for saving this project, I'll reiterate Petra - users ''should not'' request a wikinews fork at Miraheze on behalf of the project while discussion is ongoing and we are still waiting for WMF clearance on branding, especially if the person making the request isn't currently an administrator/crat on the wikinews project they're requesting it for. :::While your intentions are good, this will be interpreted as hostile forking and will be declined/deleted. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 04:58, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree with others. Things are still uncertain regarding the migration. When and how it will take place. The community is still discussing it, so please be patient. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:40, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == How to get the entire enwn backed up? == CC @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] -- Hi, does anyone know how I can get the backup of the entire enwn (along with history, local files, logs -- what have you) so that I can keep a copy of it on my local system, and perhaps run it via, say a docker setup? I'd appreciate it if someone could help me with this. [[User talk:Acagastya|•–•]] 09:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :https://dumps.wikimedia.org/ —[[User:Koavf|Justin (ko'''a'''vf)]]❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯ 11:18, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Would you be able to guide me how to run it locally, perhaps? [[User talk:Acagastya|•–•]] 12:07, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :I don’t think the dumps page contains the data for logs or other non page info (may be wrong, if so I’d be glad for someone to correct me). There is probably a way to get this considering replica’s of the databases containing all information for a wiki are publicly accessible, but that may be more involved. I also don’t believe images are provided as an easy dump, but there are pieces of software that can create backups of all page content and images (https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/WikiTeam being the main one). I intend to probably run a dump of the wikinewses closer to the read only date and have it uploaded to the Internet Archive, assuming WikiTeam or someone else doesn’t do so first. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 12:47, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Dumps server contains multiple files with a variety of data. I think the only thing really missing is user data and anything that has been deleted/oversighted. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 17:14, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :::What does user data mean? I won't care about the IP logs, nor should that be publicly available -- but say the scripts that pizero worked on -- lack of that might break the functionality. But does that mean the dumps can recreate the entire wiki? And also, dumps.wm has nothing after 26.01 -- is it not updated monthly? If so, will it be available post May 4. [[User talk:Acagastya|•–•]] 17:27, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::::It doesn't have your password, email,user preferences, that sort of thing. If its non-public information its not in the dumps. I'm not sure what the update frequency is. I think its slower than monthly. I imagine its documented somewhere. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 18:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) == Clarification: WM NYC and Miraheze joint bid and requests on Miraheze == Hello all, as mentioned [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts#Current_Updates on Meta-wiki], WM NYC and Miraheze representatives are in joint discussions with WMF on a potential bid for an approved revival of the Wikinews projects with permission to utilize the same name and branding. While the community's enthusiasm for saving the project is appreciated and understood (hell, I've saved a project from the Fandom memory-hole myself), Miraheze '''''will not approve any new project requests from individuals (especially those who are not admins or crats on the language-specific WN projects)''''' until we have clear and full signoff from the WMF. Thank you for your patience while discussions are ongoing. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:40, 5 April 2026 (UTC) = Coordination Group = Should we create a Telegram group so everyone interested in continuing this project can gather there, or should we simply refresh this page periodically to stay updated on where we should migrate? [[User:Rtnf|Rtnf]] ([[User talk:Rtnf|talk]]) 04:34, 7 April 2026 (UTC) 6mj7xwn9ux1deuhgbkayac7vjttes33 5005751 5005748 2026-04-07T13:46:49Z Niryhpr 2891357 /* Miraheze */ Reply 5005751 wikitext text/x-wiki <center> <big> Please share your opinion regarding the migration on Meta at [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. </big> </center> = 1. Name and geographical location of new hosting. = I have no idea about this, please advise. How can this be done when half of users have slow internet and are geographically dispersed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :A Meta page has been created for discussion about the migration. Please share your votes and comments there. [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:57, 31 March 2026 (UTC) === Miraheze === :Maybe we could consider migrating to https://miraheze.org/. Their Meta page is here: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Meta. :They provide free hosting, although I am not sure whether we would need to purchase our own domain name. They also do not run advertisements and operate entirely on donations. :However, a major clarification is required: If Wikinews is closed, will the WMF also relinquish copyright to the name 'Wikinews' and its logo? If not, I'm not sure how we could proceed. Perhaps someone with legal knowledge, or someone from the WMF, could advise on this? -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:13, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::Is it easy to install our own mediawiki extensions there. Do they provide shell access. The name question is in section 5 below. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:52, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, almost all MediaWiki extensions are available there. There are also users with strong MediaWiki knowledge who can help us move forward technically. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: "almost all MediaWiki extensions" is an exaggeration. But it is true that Miraheze is significantly more willing to install new extensions than Wikimedia is: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Extensions is an incomplete list. Miraheze, while they won't provide you shell access, will let you self-service many things that require shell access on Wikimedia, such as config changes - they have a fairly flexible https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ManageWiki interface. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|it has begun...]] 03:53, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::::True. What I mean is at least enough to support Wikinews or such that Wikinews is going to need. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:18, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Miraheze might be our last good option just saying. @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:55, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Also, everyone, the WMF board has '''not yet''' made a final decision, and the current community opinion is mostly in our favor, so please don't give up participating in various discussions on metawiki. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 01:02, 1 December 2025 (UTC) ::::They will close WikiNews tomorrow. All pages will be read-only. I can register the wiki at https://wikinews.miraheze.org, if you would like. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:24, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::::To reiterate NotAracham’s comment in this thread, while Miraheze is very willing to provide hosting to Wikinews, we ask that the actual wiki request be submitted by a bureaucrat (or representative of WikiNYC if the WN community choses to pursue an arrangement with them). With all due respect, for the sake of clarify and not making things more confusing for the Wikinews community, we won’t be accepting one-off requests by users that don’t have the backing of the community’s consensus. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 21:26, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::I personally oppose the usage of Miraheze because it contains trackers that are hard for users to disable. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 16:04, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]], what are they tracking and how does this work? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::I forget the exact details because I wrote that message nearly 5 months ago, but I think that it's some sort of analytics ping that you need to block at the browser or DNS level. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 12:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::::We collect minimal aggregate tracking data through cookies for cloudflare + matomo analytics as well as session persistence, @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] would be better positioned to answer this. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy Privacy Policy] also covers our 'when and how' for usage of this data. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::Now I wonder whether the whole Wikinews community will be able to migrate safely as a whole, or whether a ‘big split’ might happen due to differences like this. [[User:Niryhpr|Niryhpr]] ([[User talk:Niryhpr|talk]]) 13:39, 7 April 2026 (UTC) ::If all other measures fail... we might have to try [[w:Fandom (website)|Fandom]]. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:59, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], Wikimedia is hosted in the US due to favorable freedom of speech and copyright laws. A [[w:Content delivery network]] can improve performance around the world, though that doesn't accelerate dynamic content served to users who are logged in. See [[m:Wikimedia servers]] for example. — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:25, 27 November 2025 (UTC) Hi folks, this is NotAracham, Director of Trust & Safety at Miraheze. We've reviewed internally and are confident that we will be able to offer hosting (from both a policy and technical standpoint) should you choose to select us once things are worked out with the WMF. I and my colleagues are happy to answer any questions the WikiNews community might have towards reaching a decision. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :You are a life saver thank you @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:16, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I think we should wait until the final decision of the Board, and if it ultimately is about closing, then I have no objection to migrate. This would be the best second possibility after Wikinews is not getting closed. Thank you for your help. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 19:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Agreed, Miraheze can save us for backup plan @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:26, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I'm an Infrastructure engineer for Miraheze and am also watching this page. You can also find me on Libera.Chat (in both #wikinews and #miraheze) or Discord if you have questions. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], it would probably be a good idea to clarify whether you are talking about English Wikinews or all Wikinews language variants. Also note that ruwikinews has on the order of 1000x more articles than most other language editions. Can Miraheze deal with [[:w:en:Russian web brigades]] ? — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 19:47, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Agreed, we need to focus on English Wikinews. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:59, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Technically, I don't think any of them would be an issue. From a counter vandalism perspective, we would look to how we could support any wiki and make sure you have the tools available that you need. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 20:03, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::I'll defer to my tech colleagues on our technical capacity to host, though the general opinion seems that it would be well within possibility to host the full spectrum of languages if they choose to move to our service. Regarding the counter-vandalism aspect, our service uses Cloudflare (for both default and custom domains) to mitigate DDoS attempts, which has proven unfortunately necessary with some past antagonists. While we have an existing global CVT team to handle the more routine on-wiki trouble, we only have so many members with limited time to offer. It sounds like the Russian wikinews is one of the rare scenarios where it'd be prudent to assign some members of their moderation team [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/CheckUser#Permission delegated local CheckUser]. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 20:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], first let me declare that I don't know for sure how ruwikinews is doing currently. But you should be very careful before assigning CheckUser to anyone involved with Russian projects. The paper bear is certainly interested:<ul><li>[https://fortune.com/europe/2023/04/14/moscow-court-fines-wikipedia-refusing-remove-russia-language-article-invasion-ukraine/ Moscow court fines Wikipedia for refusing to remove a Russian-language article about the invasion of Ukraine]</li><li>[https://www.reuters.com/technology/russia-threatens-fine-wikipedia-if-it-doesnt-delete-false-information-2022-04-05/ Russia threatens to fine Wikipedia if it doesn't delete 'false information']</li><li>[https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/06/23/a89531 Russian Court Fines Wikipedia Operator Nearly $40K Over ‘P***philia Propaganda’]</li></ul>Just don't give CheckUser to the paper bear, as they could use it to prosecute dissenters. As for the current state of ruwikinews, some of the most recent articles:<ul><li>[[:n:ru:Необычный урок патриотизма провёл русский путешественник-экстремал, вернувшийся из Африки]] ([[:n:ru:Категория:Виктор Пинчук (1969)|author]] writing about himself)</li><li>[[:n:ru:В Крыму, расположенном недалеко от района боевых действий, прошла «Ночь искусств»]]: a Chinese Wikimedian, Sheminghui.WU, interviewing that user. Perhaps something is getting lost in translation, because this is the end of the last answer according to Google translate:</li></ul>{{q|1=From my personal observations, the majority of Crimean residents (myself included) are ethnic Russians. Therefore, there has generally always been a negative attitude toward the imposed "Ukrainianism" here. I'm not familiar with cultural life in eastern Ukraine or in the towns located along the front lines, but here in Crimea, everything is peaceful. Enemy drones are being shot down by professionally trained specialists. We will win! Hakuna matata! No pasaran!|4=Виктор Пинчук|5=[https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%92_%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BC%D1%83,_%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC_%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%BE%D1%82_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%8B%D1%85_%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B9,_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%BB%D0%B0_%C2%AB%D0%9D%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%8C_%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%C2%BB]}} derp I have to stop looking at this rabbit hole — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 22:57, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::::Ha, absolutely an area one could spend way too much time digging into, and a very fair point to bring up. Local checkuser has not been given out in the history of Miraheze, and would absolutely be a last resort. While it's a thing we'd ''consider'' if proven necessary, any grants here would have a much higher degree of scrutiny than standard cases given the well-documented hostility of the national actor in question. ::::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 23:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::As Russian Wikinews will also be closed, it will also need a new home. I will wait for their contributors to comment whether they want to do migration together and to the same host. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:04, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :::Correction: *may also be closed [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :Thanks @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]]] and @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] for following this page [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] Dear friend, will other language versions of Wikinews, especially ruwn and zhwn which have more views than enwn, can also be hosted? Thank you. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:48, 29 November 2025 (UTC) ::Yes, we are willing to provide hosting for all language flavors of wikinews should their communities choose to move to our service. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], thank you for your notes. :1. Do you have a comment on @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]]'s concern about trackers? :2. Could you confirm that you do not require content obligations in return, such as, censorship of content or necessitating to include your news on our site? :3. What features do you provide for multilingual content? Currently there are different sysops in each language edition of Wikinews, as they are separate wikis. :Apparently, move needs to happen before May 4 and [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard#Board_of_Trustees_Approves_Closure_of_Wikinews after that date content will be left read-only, here]. I asked whether Wikinews trademark can be used. :Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:56, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::4. In Miraheze can users insert Wikimedia Commons images into new pages? In Wikinews it is possible with same syntax as if it was a local image. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, it is possible to both upload local images and use files from Wikimedia Commons. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::This is cool. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:08, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Cc @[[User:Pppery|Pppery]] thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::# I've asked Rhinos to weigh in on trackers, but generally we collect the minimum data required to operate our service. Information collected in this way is used as described in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy our privacy policy] and is not sent/resold to outside parties. If there are more specific concerns to be discussed, I defer to my tech colleague. ::# We do have some limits on what may be hosted on our service, outlined in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy our content policy]. We also (as a non-profit) cannot host content specifically designed to achieve a political outcome, e.g. supporting a specific candidate or specific legislative action. Beyond these two items, we do not impose any further restrictions on your speech nor will we mandate that specific stories be written. However, it should be made clear, we cannot offer any form of legal cover should authored content result in legal action against the authors by a third party. ::# While we do have the Translate extension, the current structure is likely the cleanest way to continue operating. We do support interwiki/interlanguage linking as well, which can ease connection between versions. ::# Regarding licensing and/or permission for continued use of brand/trademark, that's something the WikiNews community will have to work out with the WMF, we do not negotiate in this way on behalf of our hosted projects. ::I think I've answered everything, but let me know if a question was missed. ::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:26, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Miraheze Tech here. To add to what NotAracham has said, we have [[miraheze:Help:How_to_support_multiple_languages_on_my_wiki|a multi-language guide]] which covers some of the options that are possible on Miraheze: ::# Separate wikis connected via interwiki language links. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are connected via interwiki language links by pointing interwiki links to the same wiki. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are synced with the translate extension. ::# Separate wikis connected via wikibase. I am not aware of any wiki that uses this option, but we do have wikibase available with a few hundred wikis that enabled the extension (whether they use it extensively is another story). I believe this option is what Wikinews uses right now. If there is enough interest, I can see if it is possible to replicate the wikinews setup on Miraheze's wikibase install. ::[[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:36, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::As for trackers, wiki bureaucrats can grant the <code>noanalytics</code> right to everyone (<code>*</code>) with ManageWiki, which will exempt all users from our tracking software (Matomo). I tested it on [https://exttest.mirabeta.org/ Miraheze's extension testing wiki] and am no longer seeing Matomo-related requests for both logged-in and anonymous users. ::With that said, this will only happen on the local wiki. If the user clicks on a link to, for example, the Privacy Policy page which is hosted on Miraheze Meta, they will be subject to the tracker again since it is on a different wiki. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 23:17, 30 March 2026 (UTC) Question; would it be possible to mirrow this wiki, so when i make an edit here, it is also automatically made at Miraheze from my account; is it possible to allow users to login using OAuth so that they do not need to register a new account; what testing is required for a custom extension to be installed on site; where is it located geographically. Does it remain free of charge. how does this organization generate income. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:10, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :# Going to consider this question moot as the WMF-hosted service will go read-only in near future. As mentioned elsewhere, we can assist with attributing edits to the MH-equivalent users following migration where there's interest in doing so. :# We utilize CentralAuth as our account infrastructure, users need only one account for any wiki hosted on our platform. Services can verify the MH account through OAuth as well. We do not, however, support OAuth for Wikimedia project accounts on our platform, a Miraheze account will need to be created. :# Custom extensions will need to go through our security review process, and will generally need to demonstrate some form of global usefulness to be considered for approval. :# We are based out of the United States of America and incorporated in the state of Idaho, the majority of our hardware infrastructure is located in the Salt lake City, Utah area. :# We are a 501(c)3 nonprofit charitable organization, we do not and will not charge for our service, the majority of our funds come from individual user donations. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances are public information], as are our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget/2026 annual budgets]. :--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:44, 30 March 2026 (UTC) In my opinion, miraheze is the most viable path forwards for wikinews. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) IMO moving Wikinews to Miraheze is just swapping one centralized authority for another. You're not fixing the problem, you're relocating it. Instead of the Wikimedia Foundation, you end up under Miraheze's policies, infrastructure, and admins. Different host, same dependency. If Wikinews is supposed to be a truly independent, community-driven news platform, then it needs its own infrastructure and governance - not another host that can pull the plug or change the rules whenever it wants. We don't even know if Miraheze can reliably handle a project of this scale (enwikinews only? all active language versions?). What infrastructure do they actually have? What guarantees are there for long-term stability, performance, and uptime? Calling this a solution is just self-deception. [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 06:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :The existing Wikinews community lacks the capability to do better than Miraheze or even come close. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Loyal opposition here. Sorry your project is closing, I hope you perhaps consider my suggestion to transition to a more news-magazine inspired format on whatever your new host is. But I agree with Bawolff. To quote the former administrator of Earth: May I remind you that the alternative, if it can be called that, is total extinction? [[User:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[User talk:Dronebogus|talk]]) 13:12, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :I predict there will be a big split. The anti-Miraheze faction simply won’t migrate there and may propose another path forward. [[User:Niryhpr|Niryhpr]] ([[User talk:Niryhpr|talk]]) 13:46, 7 April 2026 (UTC) No opinion on whether English (and others, except for ru) Wikinews should go to Miraheze, but certainly '''oppose migration of [[:ru:|ru.WN]] to Miraheze'''. Not exactly sure about conditions as of 2026, but the farm was long known to be dominated by English speakers and had zero representation of the Slavs in its establishment. Their staffers botched and failed import of Absurdopedia (the Russian Uncyclopedia), which eventually became self-hosted. I had some ugly interactions with Mirahezeans, myself. Meanwhile it generally is a respectable farm and I hold specifically {{u|John F. Lewis}}, who made a good job, in respect. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:31, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :Ironic, given the controversies surrounding John (He has a history of abusing positions of trust and got himself office banned from all Wikimedia projects). Regardless, is there another serious offer on the table? Otherwise Miraheze wins by default. Like you've made some comments that imply you might be willing to offer hosting or at least work on this. Are you actually offering to host Wikinews? Does this offer come with strings or financial requirements? Unless other offers materialize with details, it kind of seems like the choice is Miraheze or nothing. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 05:14, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::What would the hardware requirements be for hosting WikiNews? Could the administrators WN provide some more specific information? [[User:Charmeleon69|Charmeleon69]] ([[User talk:Charmeleon69|talk]]) 06:53, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::: Commented [[#hardware|here]] because this isn’t a proper thread. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) = 2. Volunteers willing to pay for new hosting. This can be from charities, Wikimedia Charters, or personal expenses. = I would volunteer towards hosting costs. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :This will not work in my opinion. After all, that's the approach taken for wn-reporters and email, and I think it's safe to say that it hasn't been successful. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 16:32, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::The lowest cost I am aware of would be 25 USD per month, so 300 USD per year. Though it sounds like Miraheze maybe free and I know a few Wikipedians are on their board. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:51, 18 December 2025 (UTC) : If hosting is going to be paid for, I think a new, non-profit organization should be formed, to to handle funding and oversight. If hosting is paid for by one or more individuals who are not organized under a charter or governing structure, it creates obvious risks: lack of accountability, unclear ownership, and potential instability if those individuals step away or disagree. : Forming a new non-profit may be a wise choice even if free hosting is used.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 10:48, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::Based on the [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Public_consultation_about_Wikinews#c-Sj-20260401032800-Victoria-20260330090000 latest developments], it seems that Wikimedia New York City may take on the future stewardship of Wikinews. That would also mean it is managed by an organization and a non-profit. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:27, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::: [[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] [[Wikinews talk:Migration#c-NotAracham-20260405165600-Sj-20260403011300|noted below]] {{tq|Miraheze would not impose a charge to act as host, but as a donor-driven platform, donations are always welcome to help us keep pace with expanding demand.}} ::: That reduces immediate financial pressure on any new organization. It does not address the more fundamental issue. Without the structural oversight and constraints provided by the Wikimedia Foundation, I do not see a viable path forward for en.WN. In its current state, the project has not demonstrated the capacity for consistent and productive self-regulation. ::: If Wikimedia NYC is to assume “stewardship” of Wikinews, that role needs to be clearly defined before any decision to migrate. Specifically, the scope of its authority, responsibilities, and limits should be made explicit to the community. It is also unclear how this arrangement would differ in practice from the current relationship with the Wikimedia Foundation, given that Wikimedia NYC is an affiliated chapter.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 07:45, 6 April 2026 (UTC) = 3. Volunteers willing to do budgeting and acounting: find out how much this will cost. = *I would contribute towards budget efforts .[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) *I might be willing to make a small donation to these efforts, but in terms of time -- I'm not too sure. I intend to take this time to (mostly) step away from most News wiki activities and do a bit of introspection. It's been about 16 years. I want to take a careful look at time/priorities etc.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:45, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:51, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *I suggest opening a donation channel at that time; I can also contribute a spare change. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 06:18, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks Sheminghui [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:59, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *::Do you folks have an NGO yet? If you dont would recommend the USA as the location to be based as fund raising from their is easiest and becoming a 503(c) is not that hard. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:49, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 4. System administration to install software and work around security vulnerabilities = I would contribute towards admin tasks including Linux system administration and MediaWiki [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :Can users use Wikipedia login on an externally hosted wiki? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :: In principle yes you could use OAuth for something like that. One example is at https://mdwiki.org, although in that case they only pre-approve accounts you could configure it differently. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|it has begun...]] 03:55, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anyway can use OAuth to log onto MDWiki with their Wikipedia user name, but you can only edit a couple of pages (your user page and a request for editing page) until you are granted editing privileges. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:46, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :In response to [[ru:User talk:Alexis Jazz#Hello]]: [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], I have no strong ties to Wikinews. Also no knowledge of ru which seems to be the largest wikinews language. And I've always wondered how a news website in wiki form could realistically work as articles likely go stale before they can get improved through the magic of wiki. From the looks of it, this is still an issue. Generally I'm happy to answer some questions, but actually coding for and maintaining a Wikinews successor would be a major undertaking which is not really for me. — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Okay thank you [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]]. What makes improving articles so difficult in wiki? What solution would you suggest? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:00, 29 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], hire some paid editors to write and publish [[w:en:wp:stub|stubs]] for all major news stories throughout the day. That way the site becomes functional as a news source, and the bar to improve a stub is lower than the bar to create an article from scratch. But I don't know who'd be willing to pay for such a thing. Volunteers tend to only write about subjects they care about, and nobody cares about ''everything''. Combined with the presence of a [[w:en:Wikipedia:There is no deadline|deadline]], as news needs to be published before it turns into [[wikt:olds#Noun 2|olds]], it makes a general news wiki very difficult to maintain with just volunteers whose time and interests are limited. — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 15:02, 29 November 2025 (UTC) ::::Maybe news companies could sponsor these editors, and then copy the finished products for their outlets? [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 15:42, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::::i was thinking a tool could at least help with handling the markup if not picking the news events themselves [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:37, 11 December 2025 (UTC) : I can do some Unix, SQL, HTTPd and MediaWiki job. I am the technical director of cyclowiki.org for 4 years. IMHO using Wikimedia SULs on a non-Wikimedia site is a poor choice (not only technically, but in other respects too). [[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 09:08, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]], is it possible though? And what issues would it cause? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:38, 11 December 2025 (UTC) :::It is possible. We at MDWiki do it and we are happy with the results. But than our work is fairly integrated into the Wikipedia work. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:48, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :: I hereby remind of my four-months-old proposal, although am too busy specifically next several days to do anything of value. Give me a Unix shell or an SQL access and I won’t fail you. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 15:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::: Incnis Mrsi is a highly qualified and helpful contributor who has been supporting cyclowiki.org for many years. He's always ready to help in difficult situations, even when many prefer to sit back or remain silent. He's always willing to engage with a wide range of participants and develop any constructive ideas. I think his proposal is worth supporting. [[User:Serebr|Serebr]] ([[User talk:Serebr|talk]]) 03:17, 1 April 2026 (UTC) = 5. Name = No idea if same trademark can be used... [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] as you asked above, FYI there was fork of Wikinews in past, one was called OpenGlobe. If it is same people working on it then I do not mind, any name. For example [[:w:freenode]] moved to [[:w:Libera]] with a name change and successfully moved over 80% of tens thousands users to new site. It would be good to confirm that. Another aspect is in Question 4 whether users will need to register new account. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:54, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::I don't think Miraheze would allow IP's actually Miraheze is a '''wiki farm host'''. Sorry for the excessive pings, @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:58, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fandom_(website) [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:02, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anonymous editing can be enabled or disabled through ManageWiki on Miraheze which is normally open to all crats. ManageWiki is an easy to use extension we built so you can manage some config from on wiki. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::If we move forward with this migration, we will need a new name and logo. ::Any user from here will be able to create an account on the new Wikinews instance on Miraheze. But, there is no automatic way to transfer all existing users with us. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::If Miraheze is chosen, we will work with you guys to ensure you can claim imported edits and have them attributed to a future Miraheze accounts. Of course, you'll need to sign up again. We won't be able to transfer any user preferences or anything from Wikimedia. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: What happens with edits made by users who choose not to join the fork? If they are left as-is, are there processes in place to ensure those usernames are unavailable? For example, If I choose not to join the fork, are all of my current edits still attributed to my username and is that username essentially "taken" on Miraheze so that others can't register my name and claim my edits?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 13:47, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::::They would show an interwiki link back to the archived wikinews. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 15:22, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::This is correct, while edit history can be 'attributed' to Miraheze accounts created following a migration, we don't have a way to reserve usernames/migrate wikimedia logins automatically - it will require individual registration. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: Have you tried implementing OAuth for wikimedia accounts? [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :We have asked Wikimedia what rules would have to be followed if a migration did take place with regard to trademarks. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you all @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::: Related: the broader Wikimedia community should weigh in on where to redirect Wikinews traffic. This is one of the strongest reasons to try something new at the current domains. I would hope the domain is put to use supporting an active community news effort, wherever it is hosted; historical pages can redirect. Unfortunately all of the news-related forks or comparables I know of also closed for lack of activity... [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) There are tools built into mediawiki ie [[Special:Import]] that allows the entire history from one wiki to be moved to another. Lower on [https://mdwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Gout&action=history&offset=&limit=500 this page] you can see what it looks like. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:44, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 6. Other = A small comment I'd like to make is that most interwiki-links on Wikinews (as far as I can see) are the same on Miraheze. (See: [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki Special:Interwiki]) As far as I can tell, this would not affect any of the Wikinews articles, when they are moved to Miraheze. [[User:Rodejong|Rodejong]] ([[User talk:Rodejong|talk]]) 11:50, 28 November 2025 (UTC) = 7. Wikifarm requirements, classes of hosting = One of the sticking points in discussions about the future of Wikinews was what level of hosting and customization was supported or expected; WMF having a high minimum bar for supporting production servers [and hosting all servers on shared infrastructure where a change to one site can throttle or take down others]. A number of community projects have indicated that, e.g., WM Cloud Services is not great for hosting an actively edited wikifarm. But if a number of free knowledge projects need a wiki farm with good archival practices, it might make sense for this to change, or to have an official partnership b/t WMF or the WM affiliate network and such a group. To this end, defining the needed level of service provision (including multilingual support) would be a good step. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:12, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :Would WMCloud be allowed here? WMCloud is supposed to be related to a wikimedia project, if Wikinews gets shutdown its no longer a wikinews project. That said, WM Cloud is probably sufficient to host a wiki the size of Wikinews even with active editing, but it would require sysadmins who know how to manage mediawiki. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :: This question came up in another thread; even if this is possible it would be good to know exactly what level of service is needed for a neutral wikifarm like Miraheze to host WN, what that costs, &c. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 01:13, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::Having already done some discussions and sizing, while the larger news wikis would be substantial adds, none would surpass the larger projects already on our service and we have plenty of capacity to take the entire fleet of Wikinews language families should we be selected. The Miraheze of 2026 is running on a much-improved infrastructure stack over what some might be familiar with from a few years back. :::Miraheze would not impose a charge to act as host, but as a donor-driven platform, donations are always welcome to help us keep pace with expanding demand. :) Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances] and [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget budgets] are public for those interested. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:56, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::::@[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], just throwing it out there but any '''start date''' or url? Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:31, 5 April 2026 (UTC) {{anchor|hardware}}Requirements depend on the fate of the old news. Minor requirements while Wikimedia keeps the archives, but Wikinews would need to maintain or rent a strong database management system if Wikimedia ejects all WN wikis (including the past content, especially of the Russian Wikinews) completely. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) =[[MDWiki:Main_Page]]= We forked health content to MDWiki a few years ago. With respect to cost each Wiki is about 25 to 40 USD/month and this includes updates, sys admin stuff, and security. One gets 10 GB of SDD space and then it is 1$ per GB after that. You get 100 GB of bandwidth after whic it is 0.05$ per GB. Specialied software work is about 100$ per hour but they have limited capacity for this work. With respect to using the name and logo, if you have consensus here to all go in the same direction, I would be supportive. If folks want to go in different directions than things would be a bit more complicated. Do you want to move all languages to a single wiki (less expensive) or keep each language in its own wiki? We use SkizNet which is USA based. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:38, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :Do you have a comment how come Miraheze provides hosting for free, @[[User:Doc James|Doc James]]? Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:32, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: They are also volunteer-based and rely on donations from users to run their servers. See also: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/FAQ -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Like anything else, if you want to do something custom or boss people around you need to pay for it. Miraheze hosting is more similar to WMF hosting where its solid but they aren't going to suddenly bend to your whims if you dont like the existing choices. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:37, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Everyone please check this out! Thank you. == https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/78142 I have requested a new English Wikinews. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :While I appreciate your interest in Miraheze. I do not think it is wise to make a unilateral move when the community is still weighing on the best hosting option. There is still more than a month of time to decide. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Sorry but im pretty sure they have decided. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:45, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], While I appreciate the enthusiasm for saving this project, I'll reiterate Petra - users ''should not'' request a wikinews fork at Miraheze on behalf of the project while discussion is ongoing and we are still waiting for WMF clearance on branding, especially if the person making the request isn't currently an administrator/crat on the wikinews project they're requesting it for. :::While your intentions are good, this will be interpreted as hostile forking and will be declined/deleted. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 04:58, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree with others. Things are still uncertain regarding the migration. When and how it will take place. The community is still discussing it, so please be patient. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:40, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == How to get the entire enwn backed up? == CC @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] -- Hi, does anyone know how I can get the backup of the entire enwn (along with history, local files, logs -- what have you) so that I can keep a copy of it on my local system, and perhaps run it via, say a docker setup? I'd appreciate it if someone could help me with this. [[User talk:Acagastya|•–•]] 09:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :https://dumps.wikimedia.org/ —[[User:Koavf|Justin (ko'''a'''vf)]]❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯ 11:18, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Would you be able to guide me how to run it locally, perhaps? [[User talk:Acagastya|•–•]] 12:07, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :I don’t think the dumps page contains the data for logs or other non page info (may be wrong, if so I’d be glad for someone to correct me). There is probably a way to get this considering replica’s of the databases containing all information for a wiki are publicly accessible, but that may be more involved. I also don’t believe images are provided as an easy dump, but there are pieces of software that can create backups of all page content and images (https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/WikiTeam being the main one). I intend to probably run a dump of the wikinewses closer to the read only date and have it uploaded to the Internet Archive, assuming WikiTeam or someone else doesn’t do so first. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 12:47, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Dumps server contains multiple files with a variety of data. I think the only thing really missing is user data and anything that has been deleted/oversighted. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 17:14, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :::What does user data mean? I won't care about the IP logs, nor should that be publicly available -- but say the scripts that pizero worked on -- lack of that might break the functionality. But does that mean the dumps can recreate the entire wiki? And also, dumps.wm has nothing after 26.01 -- is it not updated monthly? If so, will it be available post May 4. [[User talk:Acagastya|•–•]] 17:27, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::::It doesn't have your password, email,user preferences, that sort of thing. If its non-public information its not in the dumps. I'm not sure what the update frequency is. I think its slower than monthly. I imagine its documented somewhere. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 18:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) == Clarification: WM NYC and Miraheze joint bid and requests on Miraheze == Hello all, as mentioned [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts#Current_Updates on Meta-wiki], WM NYC and Miraheze representatives are in joint discussions with WMF on a potential bid for an approved revival of the Wikinews projects with permission to utilize the same name and branding. While the community's enthusiasm for saving the project is appreciated and understood (hell, I've saved a project from the Fandom memory-hole myself), Miraheze '''''will not approve any new project requests from individuals (especially those who are not admins or crats on the language-specific WN projects)''''' until we have clear and full signoff from the WMF. Thank you for your patience while discussions are ongoing. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:40, 5 April 2026 (UTC) = Coordination Group = Should we create a Telegram group so everyone interested in continuing this project can gather there, or should we simply refresh this page periodically to stay updated on where we should migrate? [[User:Rtnf|Rtnf]] ([[User talk:Rtnf|talk]]) 04:34, 7 April 2026 (UTC) 3v0twazurcvoeeqtyhpll2nn5ruuy7w 5005756 5005751 2026-04-07T14:31:44Z Niryhpr 2891357 /* Coordination Group */ 5005756 wikitext text/x-wiki <center> <big> Please share your opinion regarding the migration on Meta at [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. </big> </center> = 1. Name and geographical location of new hosting. = I have no idea about this, please advise. How can this be done when half of users have slow internet and are geographically dispersed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :A Meta page has been created for discussion about the migration. Please share your votes and comments there. [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:57, 31 March 2026 (UTC) === Miraheze === :Maybe we could consider migrating to https://miraheze.org/. Their Meta page is here: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Meta. :They provide free hosting, although I am not sure whether we would need to purchase our own domain name. They also do not run advertisements and operate entirely on donations. :However, a major clarification is required: If Wikinews is closed, will the WMF also relinquish copyright to the name 'Wikinews' and its logo? If not, I'm not sure how we could proceed. Perhaps someone with legal knowledge, or someone from the WMF, could advise on this? -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:13, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::Is it easy to install our own mediawiki extensions there. Do they provide shell access. The name question is in section 5 below. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:52, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, almost all MediaWiki extensions are available there. There are also users with strong MediaWiki knowledge who can help us move forward technically. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: "almost all MediaWiki extensions" is an exaggeration. But it is true that Miraheze is significantly more willing to install new extensions than Wikimedia is: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Extensions is an incomplete list. Miraheze, while they won't provide you shell access, will let you self-service many things that require shell access on Wikimedia, such as config changes - they have a fairly flexible https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ManageWiki interface. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|it has begun...]] 03:53, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::::True. What I mean is at least enough to support Wikinews or such that Wikinews is going to need. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:18, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Miraheze might be our last good option just saying. @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:55, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Also, everyone, the WMF board has '''not yet''' made a final decision, and the current community opinion is mostly in our favor, so please don't give up participating in various discussions on metawiki. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 01:02, 1 December 2025 (UTC) ::::They will close WikiNews tomorrow. All pages will be read-only. I can register the wiki at https://wikinews.miraheze.org, if you would like. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:24, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::::To reiterate NotAracham’s comment in this thread, while Miraheze is very willing to provide hosting to Wikinews, we ask that the actual wiki request be submitted by a bureaucrat (or representative of WikiNYC if the WN community choses to pursue an arrangement with them). With all due respect, for the sake of clarify and not making things more confusing for the Wikinews community, we won’t be accepting one-off requests by users that don’t have the backing of the community’s consensus. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 21:26, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::I personally oppose the usage of Miraheze because it contains trackers that are hard for users to disable. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 16:04, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]], what are they tracking and how does this work? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::I forget the exact details because I wrote that message nearly 5 months ago, but I think that it's some sort of analytics ping that you need to block at the browser or DNS level. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 12:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::::We collect minimal aggregate tracking data through cookies for cloudflare + matomo analytics as well as session persistence, @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] would be better positioned to answer this. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy Privacy Policy] also covers our 'when and how' for usage of this data. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::Now I wonder whether the whole Wikinews community will be able to migrate safely as a whole, or whether a ‘big split’ might happen due to differences like this. [[User:Niryhpr|Niryhpr]] ([[User talk:Niryhpr|talk]]) 13:39, 7 April 2026 (UTC) ::If all other measures fail... we might have to try [[w:Fandom (website)|Fandom]]. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:59, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], Wikimedia is hosted in the US due to favorable freedom of speech and copyright laws. A [[w:Content delivery network]] can improve performance around the world, though that doesn't accelerate dynamic content served to users who are logged in. See [[m:Wikimedia servers]] for example. — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:25, 27 November 2025 (UTC) Hi folks, this is NotAracham, Director of Trust & Safety at Miraheze. We've reviewed internally and are confident that we will be able to offer hosting (from both a policy and technical standpoint) should you choose to select us once things are worked out with the WMF. I and my colleagues are happy to answer any questions the WikiNews community might have towards reaching a decision. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :You are a life saver thank you @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:16, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I think we should wait until the final decision of the Board, and if it ultimately is about closing, then I have no objection to migrate. This would be the best second possibility after Wikinews is not getting closed. Thank you for your help. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 19:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Agreed, Miraheze can save us for backup plan @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:26, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I'm an Infrastructure engineer for Miraheze and am also watching this page. You can also find me on Libera.Chat (in both #wikinews and #miraheze) or Discord if you have questions. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], it would probably be a good idea to clarify whether you are talking about English Wikinews or all Wikinews language variants. Also note that ruwikinews has on the order of 1000x more articles than most other language editions. Can Miraheze deal with [[:w:en:Russian web brigades]] ? — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 19:47, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Agreed, we need to focus on English Wikinews. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:59, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Technically, I don't think any of them would be an issue. From a counter vandalism perspective, we would look to how we could support any wiki and make sure you have the tools available that you need. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 20:03, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::I'll defer to my tech colleagues on our technical capacity to host, though the general opinion seems that it would be well within possibility to host the full spectrum of languages if they choose to move to our service. Regarding the counter-vandalism aspect, our service uses Cloudflare (for both default and custom domains) to mitigate DDoS attempts, which has proven unfortunately necessary with some past antagonists. While we have an existing global CVT team to handle the more routine on-wiki trouble, we only have so many members with limited time to offer. It sounds like the Russian wikinews is one of the rare scenarios where it'd be prudent to assign some members of their moderation team [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/CheckUser#Permission delegated local CheckUser]. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 20:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], first let me declare that I don't know for sure how ruwikinews is doing currently. But you should be very careful before assigning CheckUser to anyone involved with Russian projects. The paper bear is certainly interested:<ul><li>[https://fortune.com/europe/2023/04/14/moscow-court-fines-wikipedia-refusing-remove-russia-language-article-invasion-ukraine/ Moscow court fines Wikipedia for refusing to remove a Russian-language article about the invasion of Ukraine]</li><li>[https://www.reuters.com/technology/russia-threatens-fine-wikipedia-if-it-doesnt-delete-false-information-2022-04-05/ Russia threatens to fine Wikipedia if it doesn't delete 'false information']</li><li>[https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/06/23/a89531 Russian Court Fines Wikipedia Operator Nearly $40K Over ‘P***philia Propaganda’]</li></ul>Just don't give CheckUser to the paper bear, as they could use it to prosecute dissenters. As for the current state of ruwikinews, some of the most recent articles:<ul><li>[[:n:ru:Необычный урок патриотизма провёл русский путешественник-экстремал, вернувшийся из Африки]] ([[:n:ru:Категория:Виктор Пинчук (1969)|author]] writing about himself)</li><li>[[:n:ru:В Крыму, расположенном недалеко от района боевых действий, прошла «Ночь искусств»]]: a Chinese Wikimedian, Sheminghui.WU, interviewing that user. Perhaps something is getting lost in translation, because this is the end of the last answer according to Google translate:</li></ul>{{q|1=From my personal observations, the majority of Crimean residents (myself included) are ethnic Russians. Therefore, there has generally always been a negative attitude toward the imposed "Ukrainianism" here. I'm not familiar with cultural life in eastern Ukraine or in the towns located along the front lines, but here in Crimea, everything is peaceful. Enemy drones are being shot down by professionally trained specialists. We will win! Hakuna matata! No pasaran!|4=Виктор Пинчук|5=[https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%92_%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BC%D1%83,_%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC_%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%BE%D1%82_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%8B%D1%85_%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B9,_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%BB%D0%B0_%C2%AB%D0%9D%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%8C_%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%C2%BB]}} derp I have to stop looking at this rabbit hole — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 22:57, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::::Ha, absolutely an area one could spend way too much time digging into, and a very fair point to bring up. Local checkuser has not been given out in the history of Miraheze, and would absolutely be a last resort. While it's a thing we'd ''consider'' if proven necessary, any grants here would have a much higher degree of scrutiny than standard cases given the well-documented hostility of the national actor in question. ::::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 23:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::As Russian Wikinews will also be closed, it will also need a new home. I will wait for their contributors to comment whether they want to do migration together and to the same host. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:04, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :::Correction: *may also be closed [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :Thanks @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]]] and @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] for following this page [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] Dear friend, will other language versions of Wikinews, especially ruwn and zhwn which have more views than enwn, can also be hosted? Thank you. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:48, 29 November 2025 (UTC) ::Yes, we are willing to provide hosting for all language flavors of wikinews should their communities choose to move to our service. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], thank you for your notes. :1. Do you have a comment on @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]]'s concern about trackers? :2. Could you confirm that you do not require content obligations in return, such as, censorship of content or necessitating to include your news on our site? :3. What features do you provide for multilingual content? Currently there are different sysops in each language edition of Wikinews, as they are separate wikis. :Apparently, move needs to happen before May 4 and [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard#Board_of_Trustees_Approves_Closure_of_Wikinews after that date content will be left read-only, here]. I asked whether Wikinews trademark can be used. :Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:56, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::4. In Miraheze can users insert Wikimedia Commons images into new pages? In Wikinews it is possible with same syntax as if it was a local image. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, it is possible to both upload local images and use files from Wikimedia Commons. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::This is cool. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:08, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Cc @[[User:Pppery|Pppery]] thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::# I've asked Rhinos to weigh in on trackers, but generally we collect the minimum data required to operate our service. Information collected in this way is used as described in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy our privacy policy] and is not sent/resold to outside parties. If there are more specific concerns to be discussed, I defer to my tech colleague. ::# We do have some limits on what may be hosted on our service, outlined in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy our content policy]. We also (as a non-profit) cannot host content specifically designed to achieve a political outcome, e.g. supporting a specific candidate or specific legislative action. Beyond these two items, we do not impose any further restrictions on your speech nor will we mandate that specific stories be written. However, it should be made clear, we cannot offer any form of legal cover should authored content result in legal action against the authors by a third party. ::# While we do have the Translate extension, the current structure is likely the cleanest way to continue operating. We do support interwiki/interlanguage linking as well, which can ease connection between versions. ::# Regarding licensing and/or permission for continued use of brand/trademark, that's something the WikiNews community will have to work out with the WMF, we do not negotiate in this way on behalf of our hosted projects. ::I think I've answered everything, but let me know if a question was missed. ::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:26, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Miraheze Tech here. To add to what NotAracham has said, we have [[miraheze:Help:How_to_support_multiple_languages_on_my_wiki|a multi-language guide]] which covers some of the options that are possible on Miraheze: ::# Separate wikis connected via interwiki language links. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are connected via interwiki language links by pointing interwiki links to the same wiki. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are synced with the translate extension. ::# Separate wikis connected via wikibase. I am not aware of any wiki that uses this option, but we do have wikibase available with a few hundred wikis that enabled the extension (whether they use it extensively is another story). I believe this option is what Wikinews uses right now. If there is enough interest, I can see if it is possible to replicate the wikinews setup on Miraheze's wikibase install. ::[[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:36, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::As for trackers, wiki bureaucrats can grant the <code>noanalytics</code> right to everyone (<code>*</code>) with ManageWiki, which will exempt all users from our tracking software (Matomo). I tested it on [https://exttest.mirabeta.org/ Miraheze's extension testing wiki] and am no longer seeing Matomo-related requests for both logged-in and anonymous users. ::With that said, this will only happen on the local wiki. If the user clicks on a link to, for example, the Privacy Policy page which is hosted on Miraheze Meta, they will be subject to the tracker again since it is on a different wiki. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 23:17, 30 March 2026 (UTC) Question; would it be possible to mirrow this wiki, so when i make an edit here, it is also automatically made at Miraheze from my account; is it possible to allow users to login using OAuth so that they do not need to register a new account; what testing is required for a custom extension to be installed on site; where is it located geographically. Does it remain free of charge. how does this organization generate income. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:10, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :# Going to consider this question moot as the WMF-hosted service will go read-only in near future. As mentioned elsewhere, we can assist with attributing edits to the MH-equivalent users following migration where there's interest in doing so. :# We utilize CentralAuth as our account infrastructure, users need only one account for any wiki hosted on our platform. Services can verify the MH account through OAuth as well. We do not, however, support OAuth for Wikimedia project accounts on our platform, a Miraheze account will need to be created. :# Custom extensions will need to go through our security review process, and will generally need to demonstrate some form of global usefulness to be considered for approval. :# We are based out of the United States of America and incorporated in the state of Idaho, the majority of our hardware infrastructure is located in the Salt lake City, Utah area. :# We are a 501(c)3 nonprofit charitable organization, we do not and will not charge for our service, the majority of our funds come from individual user donations. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances are public information], as are our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget/2026 annual budgets]. :--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:44, 30 March 2026 (UTC) In my opinion, miraheze is the most viable path forwards for wikinews. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) IMO moving Wikinews to Miraheze is just swapping one centralized authority for another. You're not fixing the problem, you're relocating it. Instead of the Wikimedia Foundation, you end up under Miraheze's policies, infrastructure, and admins. Different host, same dependency. If Wikinews is supposed to be a truly independent, community-driven news platform, then it needs its own infrastructure and governance - not another host that can pull the plug or change the rules whenever it wants. We don't even know if Miraheze can reliably handle a project of this scale (enwikinews only? all active language versions?). What infrastructure do they actually have? What guarantees are there for long-term stability, performance, and uptime? Calling this a solution is just self-deception. [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 06:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :The existing Wikinews community lacks the capability to do better than Miraheze or even come close. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Loyal opposition here. Sorry your project is closing, I hope you perhaps consider my suggestion to transition to a more news-magazine inspired format on whatever your new host is. But I agree with Bawolff. To quote the former administrator of Earth: May I remind you that the alternative, if it can be called that, is total extinction? [[User:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[User talk:Dronebogus|talk]]) 13:12, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :I predict there will be a big split. The anti-Miraheze faction simply won’t migrate there and may propose another path forward. [[User:Niryhpr|Niryhpr]] ([[User talk:Niryhpr|talk]]) 13:46, 7 April 2026 (UTC) No opinion on whether English (and others, except for ru) Wikinews should go to Miraheze, but certainly '''oppose migration of [[:ru:|ru.WN]] to Miraheze'''. Not exactly sure about conditions as of 2026, but the farm was long known to be dominated by English speakers and had zero representation of the Slavs in its establishment. Their staffers botched and failed import of Absurdopedia (the Russian Uncyclopedia), which eventually became self-hosted. I had some ugly interactions with Mirahezeans, myself. Meanwhile it generally is a respectable farm and I hold specifically {{u|John F. Lewis}}, who made a good job, in respect. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:31, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :Ironic, given the controversies surrounding John (He has a history of abusing positions of trust and got himself office banned from all Wikimedia projects). Regardless, is there another serious offer on the table? Otherwise Miraheze wins by default. Like you've made some comments that imply you might be willing to offer hosting or at least work on this. Are you actually offering to host Wikinews? Does this offer come with strings or financial requirements? Unless other offers materialize with details, it kind of seems like the choice is Miraheze or nothing. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 05:14, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::What would the hardware requirements be for hosting WikiNews? Could the administrators WN provide some more specific information? [[User:Charmeleon69|Charmeleon69]] ([[User talk:Charmeleon69|talk]]) 06:53, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::: Commented [[#hardware|here]] because this isn’t a proper thread. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) = 2. Volunteers willing to pay for new hosting. This can be from charities, Wikimedia Charters, or personal expenses. = I would volunteer towards hosting costs. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :This will not work in my opinion. After all, that's the approach taken for wn-reporters and email, and I think it's safe to say that it hasn't been successful. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 16:32, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::The lowest cost I am aware of would be 25 USD per month, so 300 USD per year. Though it sounds like Miraheze maybe free and I know a few Wikipedians are on their board. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:51, 18 December 2025 (UTC) : If hosting is going to be paid for, I think a new, non-profit organization should be formed, to to handle funding and oversight. If hosting is paid for by one or more individuals who are not organized under a charter or governing structure, it creates obvious risks: lack of accountability, unclear ownership, and potential instability if those individuals step away or disagree. : Forming a new non-profit may be a wise choice even if free hosting is used.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 10:48, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::Based on the [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Public_consultation_about_Wikinews#c-Sj-20260401032800-Victoria-20260330090000 latest developments], it seems that Wikimedia New York City may take on the future stewardship of Wikinews. That would also mean it is managed by an organization and a non-profit. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:27, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::: [[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] [[Wikinews talk:Migration#c-NotAracham-20260405165600-Sj-20260403011300|noted below]] {{tq|Miraheze would not impose a charge to act as host, but as a donor-driven platform, donations are always welcome to help us keep pace with expanding demand.}} ::: That reduces immediate financial pressure on any new organization. It does not address the more fundamental issue. Without the structural oversight and constraints provided by the Wikimedia Foundation, I do not see a viable path forward for en.WN. In its current state, the project has not demonstrated the capacity for consistent and productive self-regulation. ::: If Wikimedia NYC is to assume “stewardship” of Wikinews, that role needs to be clearly defined before any decision to migrate. Specifically, the scope of its authority, responsibilities, and limits should be made explicit to the community. It is also unclear how this arrangement would differ in practice from the current relationship with the Wikimedia Foundation, given that Wikimedia NYC is an affiliated chapter.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 07:45, 6 April 2026 (UTC) = 3. Volunteers willing to do budgeting and acounting: find out how much this will cost. = *I would contribute towards budget efforts .[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) *I might be willing to make a small donation to these efforts, but in terms of time -- I'm not too sure. I intend to take this time to (mostly) step away from most News wiki activities and do a bit of introspection. It's been about 16 years. I want to take a careful look at time/priorities etc.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:45, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:51, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *I suggest opening a donation channel at that time; I can also contribute a spare change. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 06:18, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks Sheminghui [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:59, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *::Do you folks have an NGO yet? If you dont would recommend the USA as the location to be based as fund raising from their is easiest and becoming a 503(c) is not that hard. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:49, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 4. System administration to install software and work around security vulnerabilities = I would contribute towards admin tasks including Linux system administration and MediaWiki [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :Can users use Wikipedia login on an externally hosted wiki? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :: In principle yes you could use OAuth for something like that. One example is at https://mdwiki.org, although in that case they only pre-approve accounts you could configure it differently. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|it has begun...]] 03:55, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anyway can use OAuth to log onto MDWiki with their Wikipedia user name, but you can only edit a couple of pages (your user page and a request for editing page) until you are granted editing privileges. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:46, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :In response to [[ru:User talk:Alexis Jazz#Hello]]: [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], I have no strong ties to Wikinews. Also no knowledge of ru which seems to be the largest wikinews language. And I've always wondered how a news website in wiki form could realistically work as articles likely go stale before they can get improved through the magic of wiki. From the looks of it, this is still an issue. Generally I'm happy to answer some questions, but actually coding for and maintaining a Wikinews successor would be a major undertaking which is not really for me. — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Okay thank you [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]]. What makes improving articles so difficult in wiki? What solution would you suggest? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:00, 29 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], hire some paid editors to write and publish [[w:en:wp:stub|stubs]] for all major news stories throughout the day. That way the site becomes functional as a news source, and the bar to improve a stub is lower than the bar to create an article from scratch. But I don't know who'd be willing to pay for such a thing. Volunteers tend to only write about subjects they care about, and nobody cares about ''everything''. Combined with the presence of a [[w:en:Wikipedia:There is no deadline|deadline]], as news needs to be published before it turns into [[wikt:olds#Noun 2|olds]], it makes a general news wiki very difficult to maintain with just volunteers whose time and interests are limited. — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 15:02, 29 November 2025 (UTC) ::::Maybe news companies could sponsor these editors, and then copy the finished products for their outlets? [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 15:42, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::::i was thinking a tool could at least help with handling the markup if not picking the news events themselves [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:37, 11 December 2025 (UTC) : I can do some Unix, SQL, HTTPd and MediaWiki job. I am the technical director of cyclowiki.org for 4 years. IMHO using Wikimedia SULs on a non-Wikimedia site is a poor choice (not only technically, but in other respects too). [[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 09:08, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]], is it possible though? And what issues would it cause? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:38, 11 December 2025 (UTC) :::It is possible. We at MDWiki do it and we are happy with the results. But than our work is fairly integrated into the Wikipedia work. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:48, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :: I hereby remind of my four-months-old proposal, although am too busy specifically next several days to do anything of value. Give me a Unix shell or an SQL access and I won’t fail you. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 15:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::: Incnis Mrsi is a highly qualified and helpful contributor who has been supporting cyclowiki.org for many years. He's always ready to help in difficult situations, even when many prefer to sit back or remain silent. He's always willing to engage with a wide range of participants and develop any constructive ideas. I think his proposal is worth supporting. [[User:Serebr|Serebr]] ([[User talk:Serebr|talk]]) 03:17, 1 April 2026 (UTC) = 5. Name = No idea if same trademark can be used... [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] as you asked above, FYI there was fork of Wikinews in past, one was called OpenGlobe. If it is same people working on it then I do not mind, any name. For example [[:w:freenode]] moved to [[:w:Libera]] with a name change and successfully moved over 80% of tens thousands users to new site. It would be good to confirm that. Another aspect is in Question 4 whether users will need to register new account. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:54, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::I don't think Miraheze would allow IP's actually Miraheze is a '''wiki farm host'''. Sorry for the excessive pings, @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:58, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fandom_(website) [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:02, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anonymous editing can be enabled or disabled through ManageWiki on Miraheze which is normally open to all crats. ManageWiki is an easy to use extension we built so you can manage some config from on wiki. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::If we move forward with this migration, we will need a new name and logo. ::Any user from here will be able to create an account on the new Wikinews instance on Miraheze. But, there is no automatic way to transfer all existing users with us. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::If Miraheze is chosen, we will work with you guys to ensure you can claim imported edits and have them attributed to a future Miraheze accounts. Of course, you'll need to sign up again. We won't be able to transfer any user preferences or anything from Wikimedia. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: What happens with edits made by users who choose not to join the fork? If they are left as-is, are there processes in place to ensure those usernames are unavailable? For example, If I choose not to join the fork, are all of my current edits still attributed to my username and is that username essentially "taken" on Miraheze so that others can't register my name and claim my edits?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 13:47, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::::They would show an interwiki link back to the archived wikinews. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 15:22, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::This is correct, while edit history can be 'attributed' to Miraheze accounts created following a migration, we don't have a way to reserve usernames/migrate wikimedia logins automatically - it will require individual registration. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: Have you tried implementing OAuth for wikimedia accounts? [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :We have asked Wikimedia what rules would have to be followed if a migration did take place with regard to trademarks. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you all @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::: Related: the broader Wikimedia community should weigh in on where to redirect Wikinews traffic. This is one of the strongest reasons to try something new at the current domains. I would hope the domain is put to use supporting an active community news effort, wherever it is hosted; historical pages can redirect. Unfortunately all of the news-related forks or comparables I know of also closed for lack of activity... [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) There are tools built into mediawiki ie [[Special:Import]] that allows the entire history from one wiki to be moved to another. Lower on [https://mdwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Gout&action=history&offset=&limit=500 this page] you can see what it looks like. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:44, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 6. Other = A small comment I'd like to make is that most interwiki-links on Wikinews (as far as I can see) are the same on Miraheze. (See: [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki Special:Interwiki]) As far as I can tell, this would not affect any of the Wikinews articles, when they are moved to Miraheze. [[User:Rodejong|Rodejong]] ([[User talk:Rodejong|talk]]) 11:50, 28 November 2025 (UTC) = 7. Wikifarm requirements, classes of hosting = One of the sticking points in discussions about the future of Wikinews was what level of hosting and customization was supported or expected; WMF having a high minimum bar for supporting production servers [and hosting all servers on shared infrastructure where a change to one site can throttle or take down others]. A number of community projects have indicated that, e.g., WM Cloud Services is not great for hosting an actively edited wikifarm. But if a number of free knowledge projects need a wiki farm with good archival practices, it might make sense for this to change, or to have an official partnership b/t WMF or the WM affiliate network and such a group. To this end, defining the needed level of service provision (including multilingual support) would be a good step. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:12, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :Would WMCloud be allowed here? WMCloud is supposed to be related to a wikimedia project, if Wikinews gets shutdown its no longer a wikinews project. That said, WM Cloud is probably sufficient to host a wiki the size of Wikinews even with active editing, but it would require sysadmins who know how to manage mediawiki. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :: This question came up in another thread; even if this is possible it would be good to know exactly what level of service is needed for a neutral wikifarm like Miraheze to host WN, what that costs, &c. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 01:13, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::Having already done some discussions and sizing, while the larger news wikis would be substantial adds, none would surpass the larger projects already on our service and we have plenty of capacity to take the entire fleet of Wikinews language families should we be selected. The Miraheze of 2026 is running on a much-improved infrastructure stack over what some might be familiar with from a few years back. :::Miraheze would not impose a charge to act as host, but as a donor-driven platform, donations are always welcome to help us keep pace with expanding demand. :) Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances] and [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget budgets] are public for those interested. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:56, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::::@[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], just throwing it out there but any '''start date''' or url? Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:31, 5 April 2026 (UTC) {{anchor|hardware}}Requirements depend on the fate of the old news. Minor requirements while Wikimedia keeps the archives, but Wikinews would need to maintain or rent a strong database management system if Wikimedia ejects all WN wikis (including the past content, especially of the Russian Wikinews) completely. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) =[[MDWiki:Main_Page]]= We forked health content to MDWiki a few years ago. With respect to cost each Wiki is about 25 to 40 USD/month and this includes updates, sys admin stuff, and security. One gets 10 GB of SDD space and then it is 1$ per GB after that. You get 100 GB of bandwidth after whic it is 0.05$ per GB. Specialied software work is about 100$ per hour but they have limited capacity for this work. With respect to using the name and logo, if you have consensus here to all go in the same direction, I would be supportive. If folks want to go in different directions than things would be a bit more complicated. Do you want to move all languages to a single wiki (less expensive) or keep each language in its own wiki? We use SkizNet which is USA based. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:38, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :Do you have a comment how come Miraheze provides hosting for free, @[[User:Doc James|Doc James]]? Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:32, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: They are also volunteer-based and rely on donations from users to run their servers. See also: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/FAQ -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Like anything else, if you want to do something custom or boss people around you need to pay for it. Miraheze hosting is more similar to WMF hosting where its solid but they aren't going to suddenly bend to your whims if you dont like the existing choices. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:37, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Everyone please check this out! Thank you. == https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/78142 I have requested a new English Wikinews. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :While I appreciate your interest in Miraheze. I do not think it is wise to make a unilateral move when the community is still weighing on the best hosting option. There is still more than a month of time to decide. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Sorry but im pretty sure they have decided. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:45, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], While I appreciate the enthusiasm for saving this project, I'll reiterate Petra - users ''should not'' request a wikinews fork at Miraheze on behalf of the project while discussion is ongoing and we are still waiting for WMF clearance on branding, especially if the person making the request isn't currently an administrator/crat on the wikinews project they're requesting it for. :::While your intentions are good, this will be interpreted as hostile forking and will be declined/deleted. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 04:58, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree with others. Things are still uncertain regarding the migration. When and how it will take place. The community is still discussing it, so please be patient. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:40, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == How to get the entire enwn backed up? == CC @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] -- Hi, does anyone know how I can get the backup of the entire enwn (along with history, local files, logs -- what have you) so that I can keep a copy of it on my local system, and perhaps run it via, say a docker setup? I'd appreciate it if someone could help me with this. [[User talk:Acagastya|•–•]] 09:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :https://dumps.wikimedia.org/ —[[User:Koavf|Justin (ko'''a'''vf)]]❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯ 11:18, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Would you be able to guide me how to run it locally, perhaps? [[User talk:Acagastya|•–•]] 12:07, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :I don’t think the dumps page contains the data for logs or other non page info (may be wrong, if so I’d be glad for someone to correct me). There is probably a way to get this considering replica’s of the databases containing all information for a wiki are publicly accessible, but that may be more involved. I also don’t believe images are provided as an easy dump, but there are pieces of software that can create backups of all page content and images (https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/WikiTeam being the main one). I intend to probably run a dump of the wikinewses closer to the read only date and have it uploaded to the Internet Archive, assuming WikiTeam or someone else doesn’t do so first. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 12:47, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Dumps server contains multiple files with a variety of data. I think the only thing really missing is user data and anything that has been deleted/oversighted. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 17:14, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :::What does user data mean? I won't care about the IP logs, nor should that be publicly available -- but say the scripts that pizero worked on -- lack of that might break the functionality. But does that mean the dumps can recreate the entire wiki? And also, dumps.wm has nothing after 26.01 -- is it not updated monthly? If so, will it be available post May 4. [[User talk:Acagastya|•–•]] 17:27, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::::It doesn't have your password, email,user preferences, that sort of thing. If its non-public information its not in the dumps. I'm not sure what the update frequency is. I think its slower than monthly. I imagine its documented somewhere. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 18:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) == Clarification: WM NYC and Miraheze joint bid and requests on Miraheze == Hello all, as mentioned [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts#Current_Updates on Meta-wiki], WM NYC and Miraheze representatives are in joint discussions with WMF on a potential bid for an approved revival of the Wikinews projects with permission to utilize the same name and branding. While the community's enthusiasm for saving the project is appreciated and understood (hell, I've saved a project from the Fandom memory-hole myself), Miraheze '''''will not approve any new project requests from individuals (especially those who are not admins or crats on the language-specific WN projects)''''' until we have clear and full signoff from the WMF. Thank you for your patience while discussions are ongoing. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:40, 5 April 2026 (UTC) = Coordination Group = Should we create a Telegram group so everyone interested in continuing this project can gather there, or should we simply refresh this page periodically to stay updated on where we should migrate? [[User:Rtnf|Rtnf]] ([[User talk:Rtnf|talk]]) 04:34, 7 April 2026 (UTC) I tried to summarize all the current conversations [http://cyllchuesnconii.rf.gd/Main/Wikinews here].[[User:Niryhpr|Niryhpr]] ([[User talk:Niryhpr|talk]]) 14:31, 7 April 2026 (UTC) bv034u04x2g261o0hp74aojc0a964zx 5005832 5005756 2026-04-07T19:55:28Z Codename Noreste 2865115 /* 4. System administration to install software and work around security vulnerabilities */ reply ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5005832 wikitext text/x-wiki <center> <big> Please share your opinion regarding the migration on Meta at [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. </big> </center> = 1. Name and geographical location of new hosting. = I have no idea about this, please advise. How can this be done when half of users have slow internet and are geographically dispersed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :A Meta page has been created for discussion about the migration. Please share your votes and comments there. [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:57, 31 March 2026 (UTC) === Miraheze === :Maybe we could consider migrating to https://miraheze.org/. Their Meta page is here: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Meta. :They provide free hosting, although I am not sure whether we would need to purchase our own domain name. They also do not run advertisements and operate entirely on donations. :However, a major clarification is required: If Wikinews is closed, will the WMF also relinquish copyright to the name 'Wikinews' and its logo? If not, I'm not sure how we could proceed. Perhaps someone with legal knowledge, or someone from the WMF, could advise on this? -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:13, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::Is it easy to install our own mediawiki extensions there. Do they provide shell access. The name question is in section 5 below. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:52, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, almost all MediaWiki extensions are available there. There are also users with strong MediaWiki knowledge who can help us move forward technically. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: "almost all MediaWiki extensions" is an exaggeration. But it is true that Miraheze is significantly more willing to install new extensions than Wikimedia is: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Extensions is an incomplete list. Miraheze, while they won't provide you shell access, will let you self-service many things that require shell access on Wikimedia, such as config changes - they have a fairly flexible https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ManageWiki interface. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|it has begun...]] 03:53, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::::True. What I mean is at least enough to support Wikinews or such that Wikinews is going to need. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:18, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Miraheze might be our last good option just saying. @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:55, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Also, everyone, the WMF board has '''not yet''' made a final decision, and the current community opinion is mostly in our favor, so please don't give up participating in various discussions on metawiki. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 01:02, 1 December 2025 (UTC) ::::They will close WikiNews tomorrow. All pages will be read-only. I can register the wiki at https://wikinews.miraheze.org, if you would like. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:24, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::::To reiterate NotAracham’s comment in this thread, while Miraheze is very willing to provide hosting to Wikinews, we ask that the actual wiki request be submitted by a bureaucrat (or representative of WikiNYC if the WN community choses to pursue an arrangement with them). With all due respect, for the sake of clarify and not making things more confusing for the Wikinews community, we won’t be accepting one-off requests by users that don’t have the backing of the community’s consensus. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 21:26, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::I personally oppose the usage of Miraheze because it contains trackers that are hard for users to disable. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 16:04, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]], what are they tracking and how does this work? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::I forget the exact details because I wrote that message nearly 5 months ago, but I think that it's some sort of analytics ping that you need to block at the browser or DNS level. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 12:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::::We collect minimal aggregate tracking data through cookies for cloudflare + matomo analytics as well as session persistence, @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] would be better positioned to answer this. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy Privacy Policy] also covers our 'when and how' for usage of this data. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::Now I wonder whether the whole Wikinews community will be able to migrate safely as a whole, or whether a ‘big split’ might happen due to differences like this. [[User:Niryhpr|Niryhpr]] ([[User talk:Niryhpr|talk]]) 13:39, 7 April 2026 (UTC) ::If all other measures fail... we might have to try [[w:Fandom (website)|Fandom]]. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:59, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], Wikimedia is hosted in the US due to favorable freedom of speech and copyright laws. A [[w:Content delivery network]] can improve performance around the world, though that doesn't accelerate dynamic content served to users who are logged in. See [[m:Wikimedia servers]] for example. — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:25, 27 November 2025 (UTC) Hi folks, this is NotAracham, Director of Trust & Safety at Miraheze. We've reviewed internally and are confident that we will be able to offer hosting (from both a policy and technical standpoint) should you choose to select us once things are worked out with the WMF. I and my colleagues are happy to answer any questions the WikiNews community might have towards reaching a decision. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :You are a life saver thank you @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:16, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I think we should wait until the final decision of the Board, and if it ultimately is about closing, then I have no objection to migrate. This would be the best second possibility after Wikinews is not getting closed. Thank you for your help. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 19:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Agreed, Miraheze can save us for backup plan @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:26, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I'm an Infrastructure engineer for Miraheze and am also watching this page. You can also find me on Libera.Chat (in both #wikinews and #miraheze) or Discord if you have questions. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], it would probably be a good idea to clarify whether you are talking about English Wikinews or all Wikinews language variants. Also note that ruwikinews has on the order of 1000x more articles than most other language editions. Can Miraheze deal with [[:w:en:Russian web brigades]] ? — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 19:47, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Agreed, we need to focus on English Wikinews. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:59, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Technically, I don't think any of them would be an issue. From a counter vandalism perspective, we would look to how we could support any wiki and make sure you have the tools available that you need. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 20:03, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::I'll defer to my tech colleagues on our technical capacity to host, though the general opinion seems that it would be well within possibility to host the full spectrum of languages if they choose to move to our service. Regarding the counter-vandalism aspect, our service uses Cloudflare (for both default and custom domains) to mitigate DDoS attempts, which has proven unfortunately necessary with some past antagonists. While we have an existing global CVT team to handle the more routine on-wiki trouble, we only have so many members with limited time to offer. It sounds like the Russian wikinews is one of the rare scenarios where it'd be prudent to assign some members of their moderation team [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/CheckUser#Permission delegated local CheckUser]. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 20:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], first let me declare that I don't know for sure how ruwikinews is doing currently. But you should be very careful before assigning CheckUser to anyone involved with Russian projects. The paper bear is certainly interested:<ul><li>[https://fortune.com/europe/2023/04/14/moscow-court-fines-wikipedia-refusing-remove-russia-language-article-invasion-ukraine/ Moscow court fines Wikipedia for refusing to remove a Russian-language article about the invasion of Ukraine]</li><li>[https://www.reuters.com/technology/russia-threatens-fine-wikipedia-if-it-doesnt-delete-false-information-2022-04-05/ Russia threatens to fine Wikipedia if it doesn't delete 'false information']</li><li>[https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/06/23/a89531 Russian Court Fines Wikipedia Operator Nearly $40K Over ‘P***philia Propaganda’]</li></ul>Just don't give CheckUser to the paper bear, as they could use it to prosecute dissenters. As for the current state of ruwikinews, some of the most recent articles:<ul><li>[[:n:ru:Необычный урок патриотизма провёл русский путешественник-экстремал, вернувшийся из Африки]] ([[:n:ru:Категория:Виктор Пинчук (1969)|author]] writing about himself)</li><li>[[:n:ru:В Крыму, расположенном недалеко от района боевых действий, прошла «Ночь искусств»]]: a Chinese Wikimedian, Sheminghui.WU, interviewing that user. Perhaps something is getting lost in translation, because this is the end of the last answer according to Google translate:</li></ul>{{q|1=From my personal observations, the majority of Crimean residents (myself included) are ethnic Russians. Therefore, there has generally always been a negative attitude toward the imposed "Ukrainianism" here. I'm not familiar with cultural life in eastern Ukraine or in the towns located along the front lines, but here in Crimea, everything is peaceful. Enemy drones are being shot down by professionally trained specialists. We will win! Hakuna matata! No pasaran!|4=Виктор Пинчук|5=[https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%92_%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BC%D1%83,_%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC_%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%BE%D1%82_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%8B%D1%85_%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B9,_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%BB%D0%B0_%C2%AB%D0%9D%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%8C_%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%C2%BB]}} derp I have to stop looking at this rabbit hole — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 22:57, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::::Ha, absolutely an area one could spend way too much time digging into, and a very fair point to bring up. Local checkuser has not been given out in the history of Miraheze, and would absolutely be a last resort. While it's a thing we'd ''consider'' if proven necessary, any grants here would have a much higher degree of scrutiny than standard cases given the well-documented hostility of the national actor in question. ::::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 23:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::As Russian Wikinews will also be closed, it will also need a new home. I will wait for their contributors to comment whether they want to do migration together and to the same host. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:04, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :::Correction: *may also be closed [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :Thanks @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]]] and @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] for following this page [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] Dear friend, will other language versions of Wikinews, especially ruwn and zhwn which have more views than enwn, can also be hosted? Thank you. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:48, 29 November 2025 (UTC) ::Yes, we are willing to provide hosting for all language flavors of wikinews should their communities choose to move to our service. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], thank you for your notes. :1. Do you have a comment on @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]]'s concern about trackers? :2. Could you confirm that you do not require content obligations in return, such as, censorship of content or necessitating to include your news on our site? :3. What features do you provide for multilingual content? Currently there are different sysops in each language edition of Wikinews, as they are separate wikis. :Apparently, move needs to happen before May 4 and [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard#Board_of_Trustees_Approves_Closure_of_Wikinews after that date content will be left read-only, here]. I asked whether Wikinews trademark can be used. :Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:56, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::4. In Miraheze can users insert Wikimedia Commons images into new pages? In Wikinews it is possible with same syntax as if it was a local image. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, it is possible to both upload local images and use files from Wikimedia Commons. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::This is cool. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:08, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Cc @[[User:Pppery|Pppery]] thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::# I've asked Rhinos to weigh in on trackers, but generally we collect the minimum data required to operate our service. Information collected in this way is used as described in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy our privacy policy] and is not sent/resold to outside parties. If there are more specific concerns to be discussed, I defer to my tech colleague. ::# We do have some limits on what may be hosted on our service, outlined in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy our content policy]. We also (as a non-profit) cannot host content specifically designed to achieve a political outcome, e.g. supporting a specific candidate or specific legislative action. Beyond these two items, we do not impose any further restrictions on your speech nor will we mandate that specific stories be written. However, it should be made clear, we cannot offer any form of legal cover should authored content result in legal action against the authors by a third party. ::# While we do have the Translate extension, the current structure is likely the cleanest way to continue operating. We do support interwiki/interlanguage linking as well, which can ease connection between versions. ::# Regarding licensing and/or permission for continued use of brand/trademark, that's something the WikiNews community will have to work out with the WMF, we do not negotiate in this way on behalf of our hosted projects. ::I think I've answered everything, but let me know if a question was missed. ::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:26, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Miraheze Tech here. To add to what NotAracham has said, we have [[miraheze:Help:How_to_support_multiple_languages_on_my_wiki|a multi-language guide]] which covers some of the options that are possible on Miraheze: ::# Separate wikis connected via interwiki language links. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are connected via interwiki language links by pointing interwiki links to the same wiki. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are synced with the translate extension. ::# Separate wikis connected via wikibase. I am not aware of any wiki that uses this option, but we do have wikibase available with a few hundred wikis that enabled the extension (whether they use it extensively is another story). I believe this option is what Wikinews uses right now. If there is enough interest, I can see if it is possible to replicate the wikinews setup on Miraheze's wikibase install. ::[[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:36, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::As for trackers, wiki bureaucrats can grant the <code>noanalytics</code> right to everyone (<code>*</code>) with ManageWiki, which will exempt all users from our tracking software (Matomo). I tested it on [https://exttest.mirabeta.org/ Miraheze's extension testing wiki] and am no longer seeing Matomo-related requests for both logged-in and anonymous users. ::With that said, this will only happen on the local wiki. If the user clicks on a link to, for example, the Privacy Policy page which is hosted on Miraheze Meta, they will be subject to the tracker again since it is on a different wiki. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 23:17, 30 March 2026 (UTC) Question; would it be possible to mirrow this wiki, so when i make an edit here, it is also automatically made at Miraheze from my account; is it possible to allow users to login using OAuth so that they do not need to register a new account; what testing is required for a custom extension to be installed on site; where is it located geographically. Does it remain free of charge. how does this organization generate income. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:10, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :# Going to consider this question moot as the WMF-hosted service will go read-only in near future. As mentioned elsewhere, we can assist with attributing edits to the MH-equivalent users following migration where there's interest in doing so. :# We utilize CentralAuth as our account infrastructure, users need only one account for any wiki hosted on our platform. Services can verify the MH account through OAuth as well. We do not, however, support OAuth for Wikimedia project accounts on our platform, a Miraheze account will need to be created. :# Custom extensions will need to go through our security review process, and will generally need to demonstrate some form of global usefulness to be considered for approval. :# We are based out of the United States of America and incorporated in the state of Idaho, the majority of our hardware infrastructure is located in the Salt lake City, Utah area. :# We are a 501(c)3 nonprofit charitable organization, we do not and will not charge for our service, the majority of our funds come from individual user donations. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances are public information], as are our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget/2026 annual budgets]. :--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:44, 30 March 2026 (UTC) In my opinion, miraheze is the most viable path forwards for wikinews. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) IMO moving Wikinews to Miraheze is just swapping one centralized authority for another. You're not fixing the problem, you're relocating it. Instead of the Wikimedia Foundation, you end up under Miraheze's policies, infrastructure, and admins. Different host, same dependency. If Wikinews is supposed to be a truly independent, community-driven news platform, then it needs its own infrastructure and governance - not another host that can pull the plug or change the rules whenever it wants. We don't even know if Miraheze can reliably handle a project of this scale (enwikinews only? all active language versions?). What infrastructure do they actually have? What guarantees are there for long-term stability, performance, and uptime? Calling this a solution is just self-deception. [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 06:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :The existing Wikinews community lacks the capability to do better than Miraheze or even come close. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Loyal opposition here. Sorry your project is closing, I hope you perhaps consider my suggestion to transition to a more news-magazine inspired format on whatever your new host is. But I agree with Bawolff. To quote the former administrator of Earth: May I remind you that the alternative, if it can be called that, is total extinction? [[User:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[User talk:Dronebogus|talk]]) 13:12, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :I predict there will be a big split. The anti-Miraheze faction simply won’t migrate there and may propose another path forward. [[User:Niryhpr|Niryhpr]] ([[User talk:Niryhpr|talk]]) 13:46, 7 April 2026 (UTC) No opinion on whether English (and others, except for ru) Wikinews should go to Miraheze, but certainly '''oppose migration of [[:ru:|ru.WN]] to Miraheze'''. Not exactly sure about conditions as of 2026, but the farm was long known to be dominated by English speakers and had zero representation of the Slavs in its establishment. Their staffers botched and failed import of Absurdopedia (the Russian Uncyclopedia), which eventually became self-hosted. I had some ugly interactions with Mirahezeans, myself. Meanwhile it generally is a respectable farm and I hold specifically {{u|John F. Lewis}}, who made a good job, in respect. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:31, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :Ironic, given the controversies surrounding John (He has a history of abusing positions of trust and got himself office banned from all Wikimedia projects). Regardless, is there another serious offer on the table? Otherwise Miraheze wins by default. Like you've made some comments that imply you might be willing to offer hosting or at least work on this. Are you actually offering to host Wikinews? Does this offer come with strings or financial requirements? Unless other offers materialize with details, it kind of seems like the choice is Miraheze or nothing. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 05:14, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::What would the hardware requirements be for hosting WikiNews? Could the administrators WN provide some more specific information? [[User:Charmeleon69|Charmeleon69]] ([[User talk:Charmeleon69|talk]]) 06:53, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::: Commented [[#hardware|here]] because this isn’t a proper thread. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) = 2. Volunteers willing to pay for new hosting. This can be from charities, Wikimedia Charters, or personal expenses. = I would volunteer towards hosting costs. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :This will not work in my opinion. After all, that's the approach taken for wn-reporters and email, and I think it's safe to say that it hasn't been successful. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 16:32, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::The lowest cost I am aware of would be 25 USD per month, so 300 USD per year. Though it sounds like Miraheze maybe free and I know a few Wikipedians are on their board. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:51, 18 December 2025 (UTC) : If hosting is going to be paid for, I think a new, non-profit organization should be formed, to to handle funding and oversight. If hosting is paid for by one or more individuals who are not organized under a charter or governing structure, it creates obvious risks: lack of accountability, unclear ownership, and potential instability if those individuals step away or disagree. : Forming a new non-profit may be a wise choice even if free hosting is used.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 10:48, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::Based on the [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Public_consultation_about_Wikinews#c-Sj-20260401032800-Victoria-20260330090000 latest developments], it seems that Wikimedia New York City may take on the future stewardship of Wikinews. That would also mean it is managed by an organization and a non-profit. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:27, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::: [[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] [[Wikinews talk:Migration#c-NotAracham-20260405165600-Sj-20260403011300|noted below]] {{tq|Miraheze would not impose a charge to act as host, but as a donor-driven platform, donations are always welcome to help us keep pace with expanding demand.}} ::: That reduces immediate financial pressure on any new organization. It does not address the more fundamental issue. Without the structural oversight and constraints provided by the Wikimedia Foundation, I do not see a viable path forward for en.WN. In its current state, the project has not demonstrated the capacity for consistent and productive self-regulation. ::: If Wikimedia NYC is to assume “stewardship” of Wikinews, that role needs to be clearly defined before any decision to migrate. Specifically, the scope of its authority, responsibilities, and limits should be made explicit to the community. It is also unclear how this arrangement would differ in practice from the current relationship with the Wikimedia Foundation, given that Wikimedia NYC is an affiliated chapter.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 07:45, 6 April 2026 (UTC) = 3. Volunteers willing to do budgeting and acounting: find out how much this will cost. = *I would contribute towards budget efforts .[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) *I might be willing to make a small donation to these efforts, but in terms of time -- I'm not too sure. I intend to take this time to (mostly) step away from most News wiki activities and do a bit of introspection. It's been about 16 years. I want to take a careful look at time/priorities etc.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:45, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:51, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *I suggest opening a donation channel at that time; I can also contribute a spare change. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 06:18, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks Sheminghui [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:59, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *::Do you folks have an NGO yet? If you dont would recommend the USA as the location to be based as fund raising from their is easiest and becoming a 503(c) is not that hard. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:49, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 4. System administration to install software and work around security vulnerabilities = I would contribute towards admin tasks including Linux system administration and MediaWiki [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :Can users use Wikipedia login on an externally hosted wiki? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :: In principle yes you could use OAuth for something like that. One example is at https://mdwiki.org, although in that case they only pre-approve accounts you could configure it differently. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|it has begun...]] 03:55, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anyway can use OAuth to log onto MDWiki with their Wikipedia user name, but you can only edit a couple of pages (your user page and a request for editing page) until you are granted editing privileges. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:46, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :In response to [[ru:User talk:Alexis Jazz#Hello]]: [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], I have no strong ties to Wikinews. Also no knowledge of ru which seems to be the largest wikinews language. And I've always wondered how a news website in wiki form could realistically work as articles likely go stale before they can get improved through the magic of wiki. From the looks of it, this is still an issue. Generally I'm happy to answer some questions, but actually coding for and maintaining a Wikinews successor would be a major undertaking which is not really for me. — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Okay thank you [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]]. What makes improving articles so difficult in wiki? What solution would you suggest? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:00, 29 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], hire some paid editors to write and publish [[w:en:wp:stub|stubs]] for all major news stories throughout the day. That way the site becomes functional as a news source, and the bar to improve a stub is lower than the bar to create an article from scratch. But I don't know who'd be willing to pay for such a thing. Volunteers tend to only write about subjects they care about, and nobody cares about ''everything''. Combined with the presence of a [[w:en:Wikipedia:There is no deadline|deadline]], as news needs to be published before it turns into [[wikt:olds#Noun 2|olds]], it makes a general news wiki very difficult to maintain with just volunteers whose time and interests are limited. — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 15:02, 29 November 2025 (UTC) ::::Maybe news companies could sponsor these editors, and then copy the finished products for their outlets? [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 15:42, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::::i was thinking a tool could at least help with handling the markup if not picking the news events themselves [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:37, 11 December 2025 (UTC) : I can do some Unix, SQL, HTTPd and MediaWiki job. I am the technical director of cyclowiki.org for 4 years. IMHO using Wikimedia SULs on a non-Wikimedia site is a poor choice (not only technically, but in other respects too). [[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 09:08, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]], is it possible though? And what issues would it cause? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:38, 11 December 2025 (UTC) :::It is possible. We at MDWiki do it and we are happy with the results. But than our work is fairly integrated into the Wikipedia work. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:48, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :: I hereby remind of my four-months-old proposal, although am too busy specifically next several days to do anything of value. Give me a Unix shell or an SQL access and I won’t fail you. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 15:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::: Incnis Mrsi is a highly qualified and helpful contributor who has been supporting cyclowiki.org for many years. He's always ready to help in difficult situations, even when many prefer to sit back or remain silent. He's always willing to engage with a wide range of participants and develop any constructive ideas. I think his proposal is worth supporting. [[User:Serebr|Serebr]] ([[User talk:Serebr|talk]]) 03:17, 1 April 2026 (UTC) : I would be willing to help out with the MediaWiki configuration. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 19:55, 7 April 2026 (UTC) = 5. Name = No idea if same trademark can be used... [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] as you asked above, FYI there was fork of Wikinews in past, one was called OpenGlobe. If it is same people working on it then I do not mind, any name. For example [[:w:freenode]] moved to [[:w:Libera]] with a name change and successfully moved over 80% of tens thousands users to new site. It would be good to confirm that. Another aspect is in Question 4 whether users will need to register new account. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:54, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::I don't think Miraheze would allow IP's actually Miraheze is a '''wiki farm host'''. Sorry for the excessive pings, @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:58, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fandom_(website) [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:02, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anonymous editing can be enabled or disabled through ManageWiki on Miraheze which is normally open to all crats. ManageWiki is an easy to use extension we built so you can manage some config from on wiki. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::If we move forward with this migration, we will need a new name and logo. ::Any user from here will be able to create an account on the new Wikinews instance on Miraheze. But, there is no automatic way to transfer all existing users with us. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::If Miraheze is chosen, we will work with you guys to ensure you can claim imported edits and have them attributed to a future Miraheze accounts. Of course, you'll need to sign up again. We won't be able to transfer any user preferences or anything from Wikimedia. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: What happens with edits made by users who choose not to join the fork? If they are left as-is, are there processes in place to ensure those usernames are unavailable? For example, If I choose not to join the fork, are all of my current edits still attributed to my username and is that username essentially "taken" on Miraheze so that others can't register my name and claim my edits?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 13:47, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::::They would show an interwiki link back to the archived wikinews. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 15:22, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::This is correct, while edit history can be 'attributed' to Miraheze accounts created following a migration, we don't have a way to reserve usernames/migrate wikimedia logins automatically - it will require individual registration. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: Have you tried implementing OAuth for wikimedia accounts? [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :We have asked Wikimedia what rules would have to be followed if a migration did take place with regard to trademarks. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you all @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::: Related: the broader Wikimedia community should weigh in on where to redirect Wikinews traffic. This is one of the strongest reasons to try something new at the current domains. I would hope the domain is put to use supporting an active community news effort, wherever it is hosted; historical pages can redirect. Unfortunately all of the news-related forks or comparables I know of also closed for lack of activity... [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) There are tools built into mediawiki ie [[Special:Import]] that allows the entire history from one wiki to be moved to another. Lower on [https://mdwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Gout&action=history&offset=&limit=500 this page] you can see what it looks like. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:44, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 6. Other = A small comment I'd like to make is that most interwiki-links on Wikinews (as far as I can see) are the same on Miraheze. (See: [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki Special:Interwiki]) As far as I can tell, this would not affect any of the Wikinews articles, when they are moved to Miraheze. [[User:Rodejong|Rodejong]] ([[User talk:Rodejong|talk]]) 11:50, 28 November 2025 (UTC) = 7. Wikifarm requirements, classes of hosting = One of the sticking points in discussions about the future of Wikinews was what level of hosting and customization was supported or expected; WMF having a high minimum bar for supporting production servers [and hosting all servers on shared infrastructure where a change to one site can throttle or take down others]. A number of community projects have indicated that, e.g., WM Cloud Services is not great for hosting an actively edited wikifarm. But if a number of free knowledge projects need a wiki farm with good archival practices, it might make sense for this to change, or to have an official partnership b/t WMF or the WM affiliate network and such a group. To this end, defining the needed level of service provision (including multilingual support) would be a good step. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:12, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :Would WMCloud be allowed here? WMCloud is supposed to be related to a wikimedia project, if Wikinews gets shutdown its no longer a wikinews project. That said, WM Cloud is probably sufficient to host a wiki the size of Wikinews even with active editing, but it would require sysadmins who know how to manage mediawiki. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :: This question came up in another thread; even if this is possible it would be good to know exactly what level of service is needed for a neutral wikifarm like Miraheze to host WN, what that costs, &c. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 01:13, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::Having already done some discussions and sizing, while the larger news wikis would be substantial adds, none would surpass the larger projects already on our service and we have plenty of capacity to take the entire fleet of Wikinews language families should we be selected. The Miraheze of 2026 is running on a much-improved infrastructure stack over what some might be familiar with from a few years back. :::Miraheze would not impose a charge to act as host, but as a donor-driven platform, donations are always welcome to help us keep pace with expanding demand. :) Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances] and [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget budgets] are public for those interested. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:56, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::::@[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], just throwing it out there but any '''start date''' or url? Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:31, 5 April 2026 (UTC) {{anchor|hardware}}Requirements depend on the fate of the old news. Minor requirements while Wikimedia keeps the archives, but Wikinews would need to maintain or rent a strong database management system if Wikimedia ejects all WN wikis (including the past content, especially of the Russian Wikinews) completely. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) =[[MDWiki:Main_Page]]= We forked health content to MDWiki a few years ago. With respect to cost each Wiki is about 25 to 40 USD/month and this includes updates, sys admin stuff, and security. One gets 10 GB of SDD space and then it is 1$ per GB after that. You get 100 GB of bandwidth after whic it is 0.05$ per GB. Specialied software work is about 100$ per hour but they have limited capacity for this work. With respect to using the name and logo, if you have consensus here to all go in the same direction, I would be supportive. If folks want to go in different directions than things would be a bit more complicated. Do you want to move all languages to a single wiki (less expensive) or keep each language in its own wiki? We use SkizNet which is USA based. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:38, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :Do you have a comment how come Miraheze provides hosting for free, @[[User:Doc James|Doc James]]? Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:32, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: They are also volunteer-based and rely on donations from users to run their servers. See also: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/FAQ -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Like anything else, if you want to do something custom or boss people around you need to pay for it. Miraheze hosting is more similar to WMF hosting where its solid but they aren't going to suddenly bend to your whims if you dont like the existing choices. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:37, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Everyone please check this out! Thank you. == https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/78142 I have requested a new English Wikinews. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :While I appreciate your interest in Miraheze. I do not think it is wise to make a unilateral move when the community is still weighing on the best hosting option. There is still more than a month of time to decide. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Sorry but im pretty sure they have decided. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:45, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], While I appreciate the enthusiasm for saving this project, I'll reiterate Petra - users ''should not'' request a wikinews fork at Miraheze on behalf of the project while discussion is ongoing and we are still waiting for WMF clearance on branding, especially if the person making the request isn't currently an administrator/crat on the wikinews project they're requesting it for. :::While your intentions are good, this will be interpreted as hostile forking and will be declined/deleted. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 04:58, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree with others. Things are still uncertain regarding the migration. When and how it will take place. The community is still discussing it, so please be patient. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:40, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == How to get the entire enwn backed up? == CC @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] -- Hi, does anyone know how I can get the backup of the entire enwn (along with history, local files, logs -- what have you) so that I can keep a copy of it on my local system, and perhaps run it via, say a docker setup? I'd appreciate it if someone could help me with this. [[User talk:Acagastya|•–•]] 09:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :https://dumps.wikimedia.org/ —[[User:Koavf|Justin (ko'''a'''vf)]]❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯ 11:18, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Would you be able to guide me how to run it locally, perhaps? [[User talk:Acagastya|•–•]] 12:07, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :I don’t think the dumps page contains the data for logs or other non page info (may be wrong, if so I’d be glad for someone to correct me). There is probably a way to get this considering replica’s of the databases containing all information for a wiki are publicly accessible, but that may be more involved. I also don’t believe images are provided as an easy dump, but there are pieces of software that can create backups of all page content and images (https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/WikiTeam being the main one). I intend to probably run a dump of the wikinewses closer to the read only date and have it uploaded to the Internet Archive, assuming WikiTeam or someone else doesn’t do so first. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 12:47, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Dumps server contains multiple files with a variety of data. I think the only thing really missing is user data and anything that has been deleted/oversighted. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 17:14, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :::What does user data mean? I won't care about the IP logs, nor should that be publicly available -- but say the scripts that pizero worked on -- lack of that might break the functionality. But does that mean the dumps can recreate the entire wiki? And also, dumps.wm has nothing after 26.01 -- is it not updated monthly? If so, will it be available post May 4. [[User talk:Acagastya|•–•]] 17:27, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::::It doesn't have your password, email,user preferences, that sort of thing. If its non-public information its not in the dumps. I'm not sure what the update frequency is. I think its slower than monthly. I imagine its documented somewhere. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 18:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) == Clarification: WM NYC and Miraheze joint bid and requests on Miraheze == Hello all, as mentioned [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts#Current_Updates on Meta-wiki], WM NYC and Miraheze representatives are in joint discussions with WMF on a potential bid for an approved revival of the Wikinews projects with permission to utilize the same name and branding. While the community's enthusiasm for saving the project is appreciated and understood (hell, I've saved a project from the Fandom memory-hole myself), Miraheze '''''will not approve any new project requests from individuals (especially those who are not admins or crats on the language-specific WN projects)''''' until we have clear and full signoff from the WMF. Thank you for your patience while discussions are ongoing. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:40, 5 April 2026 (UTC) = Coordination Group = Should we create a Telegram group so everyone interested in continuing this project can gather there, or should we simply refresh this page periodically to stay updated on where we should migrate? [[User:Rtnf|Rtnf]] ([[User talk:Rtnf|talk]]) 04:34, 7 April 2026 (UTC) I tried to summarize all the current conversations [http://cyllchuesnconii.rf.gd/Main/Wikinews here].[[User:Niryhpr|Niryhpr]] ([[User talk:Niryhpr|talk]]) 14:31, 7 April 2026 (UTC) o98rg3zu2qsi9b995hy7gj4vdxximu6 5005861 5005832 2026-04-07T23:04:35Z BilboBeggins 2808292 /* Miraheze */ Reply 5005861 wikitext text/x-wiki <center> <big> Please share your opinion regarding the migration on Meta at [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. </big> </center> = 1. Name and geographical location of new hosting. = I have no idea about this, please advise. How can this be done when half of users have slow internet and are geographically dispersed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :A Meta page has been created for discussion about the migration. Please share your votes and comments there. [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:57, 31 March 2026 (UTC) === Miraheze === :Maybe we could consider migrating to https://miraheze.org/. Their Meta page is here: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Meta. :They provide free hosting, although I am not sure whether we would need to purchase our own domain name. They also do not run advertisements and operate entirely on donations. :However, a major clarification is required: If Wikinews is closed, will the WMF also relinquish copyright to the name 'Wikinews' and its logo? If not, I'm not sure how we could proceed. Perhaps someone with legal knowledge, or someone from the WMF, could advise on this? -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:13, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::Is it easy to install our own mediawiki extensions there. Do they provide shell access. The name question is in section 5 below. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:52, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, almost all MediaWiki extensions are available there. There are also users with strong MediaWiki knowledge who can help us move forward technically. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: "almost all MediaWiki extensions" is an exaggeration. But it is true that Miraheze is significantly more willing to install new extensions than Wikimedia is: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Extensions is an incomplete list. Miraheze, while they won't provide you shell access, will let you self-service many things that require shell access on Wikimedia, such as config changes - they have a fairly flexible https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ManageWiki interface. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|it has begun...]] 03:53, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::::True. What I mean is at least enough to support Wikinews or such that Wikinews is going to need. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:18, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Miraheze might be our last good option just saying. @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:55, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Also, everyone, the WMF board has '''not yet''' made a final decision, and the current community opinion is mostly in our favor, so please don't give up participating in various discussions on metawiki. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 01:02, 1 December 2025 (UTC) ::::They will close WikiNews tomorrow. All pages will be read-only. I can register the wiki at https://wikinews.miraheze.org, if you would like. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:24, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::::To reiterate NotAracham’s comment in this thread, while Miraheze is very willing to provide hosting to Wikinews, we ask that the actual wiki request be submitted by a bureaucrat (or representative of WikiNYC if the WN community choses to pursue an arrangement with them). With all due respect, for the sake of clarify and not making things more confusing for the Wikinews community, we won’t be accepting one-off requests by users that don’t have the backing of the community’s consensus. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 21:26, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::I personally oppose the usage of Miraheze because it contains trackers that are hard for users to disable. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 16:04, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]], what are they tracking and how does this work? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::I forget the exact details because I wrote that message nearly 5 months ago, but I think that it's some sort of analytics ping that you need to block at the browser or DNS level. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 12:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::::We collect minimal aggregate tracking data through cookies for cloudflare + matomo analytics as well as session persistence, @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] would be better positioned to answer this. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy Privacy Policy] also covers our 'when and how' for usage of this data. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::Now I wonder whether the whole Wikinews community will be able to migrate safely as a whole, or whether a ‘big split’ might happen due to differences like this. [[User:Niryhpr|Niryhpr]] ([[User talk:Niryhpr|talk]]) 13:39, 7 April 2026 (UTC) ::If all other measures fail... we might have to try [[w:Fandom (website)|Fandom]]. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:59, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], Wikimedia is hosted in the US due to favorable freedom of speech and copyright laws. A [[w:Content delivery network]] can improve performance around the world, though that doesn't accelerate dynamic content served to users who are logged in. See [[m:Wikimedia servers]] for example. — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:25, 27 November 2025 (UTC) Hi folks, this is NotAracham, Director of Trust & Safety at Miraheze. We've reviewed internally and are confident that we will be able to offer hosting (from both a policy and technical standpoint) should you choose to select us once things are worked out with the WMF. I and my colleagues are happy to answer any questions the WikiNews community might have towards reaching a decision. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :You are a life saver thank you @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:16, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I think we should wait until the final decision of the Board, and if it ultimately is about closing, then I have no objection to migrate. This would be the best second possibility after Wikinews is not getting closed. Thank you for your help. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 19:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Agreed, Miraheze can save us for backup plan @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:26, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I'm an Infrastructure engineer for Miraheze and am also watching this page. You can also find me on Libera.Chat (in both #wikinews and #miraheze) or Discord if you have questions. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], it would probably be a good idea to clarify whether you are talking about English Wikinews or all Wikinews language variants. Also note that ruwikinews has on the order of 1000x more articles than most other language editions. Can Miraheze deal with [[:w:en:Russian web brigades]] ? — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 19:47, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Agreed, we need to focus on English Wikinews. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:59, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Technically, I don't think any of them would be an issue. From a counter vandalism perspective, we would look to how we could support any wiki and make sure you have the tools available that you need. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 20:03, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::I'll defer to my tech colleagues on our technical capacity to host, though the general opinion seems that it would be well within possibility to host the full spectrum of languages if they choose to move to our service. Regarding the counter-vandalism aspect, our service uses Cloudflare (for both default and custom domains) to mitigate DDoS attempts, which has proven unfortunately necessary with some past antagonists. While we have an existing global CVT team to handle the more routine on-wiki trouble, we only have so many members with limited time to offer. It sounds like the Russian wikinews is one of the rare scenarios where it'd be prudent to assign some members of their moderation team [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/CheckUser#Permission delegated local CheckUser]. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 20:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], first let me declare that I don't know for sure how ruwikinews is doing currently. But you should be very careful before assigning CheckUser to anyone involved with Russian projects. The paper bear is certainly interested:<ul><li>[https://fortune.com/europe/2023/04/14/moscow-court-fines-wikipedia-refusing-remove-russia-language-article-invasion-ukraine/ Moscow court fines Wikipedia for refusing to remove a Russian-language article about the invasion of Ukraine]</li><li>[https://www.reuters.com/technology/russia-threatens-fine-wikipedia-if-it-doesnt-delete-false-information-2022-04-05/ Russia threatens to fine Wikipedia if it doesn't delete 'false information']</li><li>[https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/06/23/a89531 Russian Court Fines Wikipedia Operator Nearly $40K Over ‘P***philia Propaganda’]</li></ul>Just don't give CheckUser to the paper bear, as they could use it to prosecute dissenters. As for the current state of ruwikinews, some of the most recent articles:<ul><li>[[:n:ru:Необычный урок патриотизма провёл русский путешественник-экстремал, вернувшийся из Африки]] ([[:n:ru:Категория:Виктор Пинчук (1969)|author]] writing about himself)</li><li>[[:n:ru:В Крыму, расположенном недалеко от района боевых действий, прошла «Ночь искусств»]]: a Chinese Wikimedian, Sheminghui.WU, interviewing that user. Perhaps something is getting lost in translation, because this is the end of the last answer according to Google translate:</li></ul>{{q|1=From my personal observations, the majority of Crimean residents (myself included) are ethnic Russians. Therefore, there has generally always been a negative attitude toward the imposed "Ukrainianism" here. I'm not familiar with cultural life in eastern Ukraine or in the towns located along the front lines, but here in Crimea, everything is peaceful. Enemy drones are being shot down by professionally trained specialists. We will win! Hakuna matata! No pasaran!|4=Виктор Пинчук|5=[https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%92_%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BC%D1%83,_%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC_%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%BE%D1%82_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%8B%D1%85_%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B9,_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%BB%D0%B0_%C2%AB%D0%9D%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%8C_%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%C2%BB]}} derp I have to stop looking at this rabbit hole — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 22:57, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::::Ha, absolutely an area one could spend way too much time digging into, and a very fair point to bring up. Local checkuser has not been given out in the history of Miraheze, and would absolutely be a last resort. While it's a thing we'd ''consider'' if proven necessary, any grants here would have a much higher degree of scrutiny than standard cases given the well-documented hostility of the national actor in question. ::::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 23:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::As Russian Wikinews will also be closed, it will also need a new home. I will wait for their contributors to comment whether they want to do migration together and to the same host. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:04, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :::Correction: *may also be closed [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) ::"Also note that ruwikinews has on the order of 1000x more articles than most other language editions. Can Miraheze deal with w:en:Russian web brigades?" How do you link those two things? [[User:BilboBeggins|BilboBeggins]] ([[User talk:BilboBeggins|talk]]) 23:04, 7 April 2026 (UTC) :Thanks @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]]] and @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] for following this page [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] Dear friend, will other language versions of Wikinews, especially ruwn and zhwn which have more views than enwn, can also be hosted? Thank you. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:48, 29 November 2025 (UTC) ::Yes, we are willing to provide hosting for all language flavors of wikinews should their communities choose to move to our service. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], thank you for your notes. :1. Do you have a comment on @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]]'s concern about trackers? :2. Could you confirm that you do not require content obligations in return, such as, censorship of content or necessitating to include your news on our site? :3. What features do you provide for multilingual content? Currently there are different sysops in each language edition of Wikinews, as they are separate wikis. :Apparently, move needs to happen before May 4 and [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard#Board_of_Trustees_Approves_Closure_of_Wikinews after that date content will be left read-only, here]. I asked whether Wikinews trademark can be used. :Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:56, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::4. In Miraheze can users insert Wikimedia Commons images into new pages? In Wikinews it is possible with same syntax as if it was a local image. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, it is possible to both upload local images and use files from Wikimedia Commons. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::This is cool. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:08, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Cc @[[User:Pppery|Pppery]] thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::# I've asked Rhinos to weigh in on trackers, but generally we collect the minimum data required to operate our service. Information collected in this way is used as described in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy our privacy policy] and is not sent/resold to outside parties. If there are more specific concerns to be discussed, I defer to my tech colleague. ::# We do have some limits on what may be hosted on our service, outlined in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy our content policy]. We also (as a non-profit) cannot host content specifically designed to achieve a political outcome, e.g. supporting a specific candidate or specific legislative action. Beyond these two items, we do not impose any further restrictions on your speech nor will we mandate that specific stories be written. However, it should be made clear, we cannot offer any form of legal cover should authored content result in legal action against the authors by a third party. ::# While we do have the Translate extension, the current structure is likely the cleanest way to continue operating. We do support interwiki/interlanguage linking as well, which can ease connection between versions. ::# Regarding licensing and/or permission for continued use of brand/trademark, that's something the WikiNews community will have to work out with the WMF, we do not negotiate in this way on behalf of our hosted projects. ::I think I've answered everything, but let me know if a question was missed. ::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:26, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Miraheze Tech here. To add to what NotAracham has said, we have [[miraheze:Help:How_to_support_multiple_languages_on_my_wiki|a multi-language guide]] which covers some of the options that are possible on Miraheze: ::# Separate wikis connected via interwiki language links. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are connected via interwiki language links by pointing interwiki links to the same wiki. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are synced with the translate extension. ::# Separate wikis connected via wikibase. I am not aware of any wiki that uses this option, but we do have wikibase available with a few hundred wikis that enabled the extension (whether they use it extensively is another story). I believe this option is what Wikinews uses right now. If there is enough interest, I can see if it is possible to replicate the wikinews setup on Miraheze's wikibase install. ::[[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:36, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::As for trackers, wiki bureaucrats can grant the <code>noanalytics</code> right to everyone (<code>*</code>) with ManageWiki, which will exempt all users from our tracking software (Matomo). I tested it on [https://exttest.mirabeta.org/ Miraheze's extension testing wiki] and am no longer seeing Matomo-related requests for both logged-in and anonymous users. ::With that said, this will only happen on the local wiki. If the user clicks on a link to, for example, the Privacy Policy page which is hosted on Miraheze Meta, they will be subject to the tracker again since it is on a different wiki. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 23:17, 30 March 2026 (UTC) Question; would it be possible to mirrow this wiki, so when i make an edit here, it is also automatically made at Miraheze from my account; is it possible to allow users to login using OAuth so that they do not need to register a new account; what testing is required for a custom extension to be installed on site; where is it located geographically. Does it remain free of charge. how does this organization generate income. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:10, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :# Going to consider this question moot as the WMF-hosted service will go read-only in near future. As mentioned elsewhere, we can assist with attributing edits to the MH-equivalent users following migration where there's interest in doing so. :# We utilize CentralAuth as our account infrastructure, users need only one account for any wiki hosted on our platform. Services can verify the MH account through OAuth as well. We do not, however, support OAuth for Wikimedia project accounts on our platform, a Miraheze account will need to be created. :# Custom extensions will need to go through our security review process, and will generally need to demonstrate some form of global usefulness to be considered for approval. :# We are based out of the United States of America and incorporated in the state of Idaho, the majority of our hardware infrastructure is located in the Salt lake City, Utah area. :# We are a 501(c)3 nonprofit charitable organization, we do not and will not charge for our service, the majority of our funds come from individual user donations. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances are public information], as are our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget/2026 annual budgets]. :--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:44, 30 March 2026 (UTC) In my opinion, miraheze is the most viable path forwards for wikinews. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) IMO moving Wikinews to Miraheze is just swapping one centralized authority for another. You're not fixing the problem, you're relocating it. Instead of the Wikimedia Foundation, you end up under Miraheze's policies, infrastructure, and admins. Different host, same dependency. If Wikinews is supposed to be a truly independent, community-driven news platform, then it needs its own infrastructure and governance - not another host that can pull the plug or change the rules whenever it wants. We don't even know if Miraheze can reliably handle a project of this scale (enwikinews only? all active language versions?). What infrastructure do they actually have? What guarantees are there for long-term stability, performance, and uptime? Calling this a solution is just self-deception. [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 06:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :The existing Wikinews community lacks the capability to do better than Miraheze or even come close. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Loyal opposition here. Sorry your project is closing, I hope you perhaps consider my suggestion to transition to a more news-magazine inspired format on whatever your new host is. But I agree with Bawolff. To quote the former administrator of Earth: May I remind you that the alternative, if it can be called that, is total extinction? [[User:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[User talk:Dronebogus|talk]]) 13:12, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :I predict there will be a big split. The anti-Miraheze faction simply won’t migrate there and may propose another path forward. [[User:Niryhpr|Niryhpr]] ([[User talk:Niryhpr|talk]]) 13:46, 7 April 2026 (UTC) No opinion on whether English (and others, except for ru) Wikinews should go to Miraheze, but certainly '''oppose migration of [[:ru:|ru.WN]] to Miraheze'''. Not exactly sure about conditions as of 2026, but the farm was long known to be dominated by English speakers and had zero representation of the Slavs in its establishment. Their staffers botched and failed import of Absurdopedia (the Russian Uncyclopedia), which eventually became self-hosted. I had some ugly interactions with Mirahezeans, myself. Meanwhile it generally is a respectable farm and I hold specifically {{u|John F. Lewis}}, who made a good job, in respect. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:31, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :Ironic, given the controversies surrounding John (He has a history of abusing positions of trust and got himself office banned from all Wikimedia projects). Regardless, is there another serious offer on the table? Otherwise Miraheze wins by default. Like you've made some comments that imply you might be willing to offer hosting or at least work on this. Are you actually offering to host Wikinews? Does this offer come with strings or financial requirements? Unless other offers materialize with details, it kind of seems like the choice is Miraheze or nothing. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 05:14, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::What would the hardware requirements be for hosting WikiNews? Could the administrators WN provide some more specific information? [[User:Charmeleon69|Charmeleon69]] ([[User talk:Charmeleon69|talk]]) 06:53, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::: Commented [[#hardware|here]] because this isn’t a proper thread. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) = 2. Volunteers willing to pay for new hosting. This can be from charities, Wikimedia Charters, or personal expenses. = I would volunteer towards hosting costs. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :This will not work in my opinion. After all, that's the approach taken for wn-reporters and email, and I think it's safe to say that it hasn't been successful. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 16:32, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::The lowest cost I am aware of would be 25 USD per month, so 300 USD per year. Though it sounds like Miraheze maybe free and I know a few Wikipedians are on their board. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:51, 18 December 2025 (UTC) : If hosting is going to be paid for, I think a new, non-profit organization should be formed, to to handle funding and oversight. If hosting is paid for by one or more individuals who are not organized under a charter or governing structure, it creates obvious risks: lack of accountability, unclear ownership, and potential instability if those individuals step away or disagree. : Forming a new non-profit may be a wise choice even if free hosting is used.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 10:48, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::Based on the [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Public_consultation_about_Wikinews#c-Sj-20260401032800-Victoria-20260330090000 latest developments], it seems that Wikimedia New York City may take on the future stewardship of Wikinews. That would also mean it is managed by an organization and a non-profit. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:27, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::: [[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] [[Wikinews talk:Migration#c-NotAracham-20260405165600-Sj-20260403011300|noted below]] {{tq|Miraheze would not impose a charge to act as host, but as a donor-driven platform, donations are always welcome to help us keep pace with expanding demand.}} ::: That reduces immediate financial pressure on any new organization. It does not address the more fundamental issue. Without the structural oversight and constraints provided by the Wikimedia Foundation, I do not see a viable path forward for en.WN. In its current state, the project has not demonstrated the capacity for consistent and productive self-regulation. ::: If Wikimedia NYC is to assume “stewardship” of Wikinews, that role needs to be clearly defined before any decision to migrate. Specifically, the scope of its authority, responsibilities, and limits should be made explicit to the community. It is also unclear how this arrangement would differ in practice from the current relationship with the Wikimedia Foundation, given that Wikimedia NYC is an affiliated chapter.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 07:45, 6 April 2026 (UTC) = 3. Volunteers willing to do budgeting and acounting: find out how much this will cost. = *I would contribute towards budget efforts .[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) *I might be willing to make a small donation to these efforts, but in terms of time -- I'm not too sure. I intend to take this time to (mostly) step away from most News wiki activities and do a bit of introspection. It's been about 16 years. I want to take a careful look at time/priorities etc.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:45, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:51, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *I suggest opening a donation channel at that time; I can also contribute a spare change. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 06:18, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks Sheminghui [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:59, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *::Do you folks have an NGO yet? If you dont would recommend the USA as the location to be based as fund raising from their is easiest and becoming a 503(c) is not that hard. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:49, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 4. System administration to install software and work around security vulnerabilities = I would contribute towards admin tasks including Linux system administration and MediaWiki [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :Can users use Wikipedia login on an externally hosted wiki? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :: In principle yes you could use OAuth for something like that. One example is at https://mdwiki.org, although in that case they only pre-approve accounts you could configure it differently. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|it has begun...]] 03:55, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anyway can use OAuth to log onto MDWiki with their Wikipedia user name, but you can only edit a couple of pages (your user page and a request for editing page) until you are granted editing privileges. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:46, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :In response to [[ru:User talk:Alexis Jazz#Hello]]: [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], I have no strong ties to Wikinews. Also no knowledge of ru which seems to be the largest wikinews language. And I've always wondered how a news website in wiki form could realistically work as articles likely go stale before they can get improved through the magic of wiki. From the looks of it, this is still an issue. Generally I'm happy to answer some questions, but actually coding for and maintaining a Wikinews successor would be a major undertaking which is not really for me. — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Okay thank you [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]]. What makes improving articles so difficult in wiki? What solution would you suggest? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:00, 29 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], hire some paid editors to write and publish [[w:en:wp:stub|stubs]] for all major news stories throughout the day. That way the site becomes functional as a news source, and the bar to improve a stub is lower than the bar to create an article from scratch. But I don't know who'd be willing to pay for such a thing. Volunteers tend to only write about subjects they care about, and nobody cares about ''everything''. Combined with the presence of a [[w:en:Wikipedia:There is no deadline|deadline]], as news needs to be published before it turns into [[wikt:olds#Noun 2|olds]], it makes a general news wiki very difficult to maintain with just volunteers whose time and interests are limited. — [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 15:02, 29 November 2025 (UTC) ::::Maybe news companies could sponsor these editors, and then copy the finished products for their outlets? [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 15:42, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::::i was thinking a tool could at least help with handling the markup if not picking the news events themselves [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:37, 11 December 2025 (UTC) : I can do some Unix, SQL, HTTPd and MediaWiki job. I am the technical director of cyclowiki.org for 4 years. IMHO using Wikimedia SULs on a non-Wikimedia site is a poor choice (not only technically, but in other respects too). [[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 09:08, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]], is it possible though? And what issues would it cause? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:38, 11 December 2025 (UTC) :::It is possible. We at MDWiki do it and we are happy with the results. But than our work is fairly integrated into the Wikipedia work. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:48, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :: I hereby remind of my four-months-old proposal, although am too busy specifically next several days to do anything of value. Give me a Unix shell or an SQL access and I won’t fail you. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 15:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::: Incnis Mrsi is a highly qualified and helpful contributor who has been supporting cyclowiki.org for many years. He's always ready to help in difficult situations, even when many prefer to sit back or remain silent. He's always willing to engage with a wide range of participants and develop any constructive ideas. I think his proposal is worth supporting. [[User:Serebr|Serebr]] ([[User talk:Serebr|talk]]) 03:17, 1 April 2026 (UTC) : I would be willing to help out with the MediaWiki configuration. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 19:55, 7 April 2026 (UTC) = 5. Name = No idea if same trademark can be used... [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] as you asked above, FYI there was fork of Wikinews in past, one was called OpenGlobe. If it is same people working on it then I do not mind, any name. For example [[:w:freenode]] moved to [[:w:Libera]] with a name change and successfully moved over 80% of tens thousands users to new site. It would be good to confirm that. Another aspect is in Question 4 whether users will need to register new account. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:54, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::I don't think Miraheze would allow IP's actually Miraheze is a '''wiki farm host'''. Sorry for the excessive pings, @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:58, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fandom_(website) [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:02, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anonymous editing can be enabled or disabled through ManageWiki on Miraheze which is normally open to all crats. ManageWiki is an easy to use extension we built so you can manage some config from on wiki. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::If we move forward with this migration, we will need a new name and logo. ::Any user from here will be able to create an account on the new Wikinews instance on Miraheze. But, there is no automatic way to transfer all existing users with us. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::If Miraheze is chosen, we will work with you guys to ensure you can claim imported edits and have them attributed to a future Miraheze accounts. Of course, you'll need to sign up again. We won't be able to transfer any user preferences or anything from Wikimedia. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: What happens with edits made by users who choose not to join the fork? If they are left as-is, are there processes in place to ensure those usernames are unavailable? For example, If I choose not to join the fork, are all of my current edits still attributed to my username and is that username essentially "taken" on Miraheze so that others can't register my name and claim my edits?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 13:47, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::::They would show an interwiki link back to the archived wikinews. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 15:22, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::This is correct, while edit history can be 'attributed' to Miraheze accounts created following a migration, we don't have a way to reserve usernames/migrate wikimedia logins automatically - it will require individual registration. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: Have you tried implementing OAuth for wikimedia accounts? [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :We have asked Wikimedia what rules would have to be followed if a migration did take place with regard to trademarks. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you all @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::: Related: the broader Wikimedia community should weigh in on where to redirect Wikinews traffic. This is one of the strongest reasons to try something new at the current domains. I would hope the domain is put to use supporting an active community news effort, wherever it is hosted; historical pages can redirect. Unfortunately all of the news-related forks or comparables I know of also closed for lack of activity... [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) There are tools built into mediawiki ie [[Special:Import]] that allows the entire history from one wiki to be moved to another. Lower on [https://mdwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Gout&action=history&offset=&limit=500 this page] you can see what it looks like. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:44, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 6. Other = A small comment I'd like to make is that most interwiki-links on Wikinews (as far as I can see) are the same on Miraheze. (See: [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki Special:Interwiki]) As far as I can tell, this would not affect any of the Wikinews articles, when they are moved to Miraheze. [[User:Rodejong|Rodejong]] ([[User talk:Rodejong|talk]]) 11:50, 28 November 2025 (UTC) = 7. Wikifarm requirements, classes of hosting = One of the sticking points in discussions about the future of Wikinews was what level of hosting and customization was supported or expected; WMF having a high minimum bar for supporting production servers [and hosting all servers on shared infrastructure where a change to one site can throttle or take down others]. A number of community projects have indicated that, e.g., WM Cloud Services is not great for hosting an actively edited wikifarm. But if a number of free knowledge projects need a wiki farm with good archival practices, it might make sense for this to change, or to have an official partnership b/t WMF or the WM affiliate network and such a group. To this end, defining the needed level of service provision (including multilingual support) would be a good step. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:12, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :Would WMCloud be allowed here? WMCloud is supposed to be related to a wikimedia project, if Wikinews gets shutdown its no longer a wikinews project. That said, WM Cloud is probably sufficient to host a wiki the size of Wikinews even with active editing, but it would require sysadmins who know how to manage mediawiki. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :: This question came up in another thread; even if this is possible it would be good to know exactly what level of service is needed for a neutral wikifarm like Miraheze to host WN, what that costs, &c. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 01:13, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::Having already done some discussions and sizing, while the larger news wikis would be substantial adds, none would surpass the larger projects already on our service and we have plenty of capacity to take the entire fleet of Wikinews language families should we be selected. The Miraheze of 2026 is running on a much-improved infrastructure stack over what some might be familiar with from a few years back. :::Miraheze would not impose a charge to act as host, but as a donor-driven platform, donations are always welcome to help us keep pace with expanding demand. :) Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances] and [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget budgets] are public for those interested. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:56, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::::@[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], just throwing it out there but any '''start date''' or url? Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:31, 5 April 2026 (UTC) {{anchor|hardware}}Requirements depend on the fate of the old news. Minor requirements while Wikimedia keeps the archives, but Wikinews would need to maintain or rent a strong database management system if Wikimedia ejects all WN wikis (including the past content, especially of the Russian Wikinews) completely. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) =[[MDWiki:Main_Page]]= We forked health content to MDWiki a few years ago. With respect to cost each Wiki is about 25 to 40 USD/month and this includes updates, sys admin stuff, and security. One gets 10 GB of SDD space and then it is 1$ per GB after that. You get 100 GB of bandwidth after whic it is 0.05$ per GB. Specialied software work is about 100$ per hour but they have limited capacity for this work. With respect to using the name and logo, if you have consensus here to all go in the same direction, I would be supportive. If folks want to go in different directions than things would be a bit more complicated. Do you want to move all languages to a single wiki (less expensive) or keep each language in its own wiki? We use SkizNet which is USA based. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:38, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :Do you have a comment how come Miraheze provides hosting for free, @[[User:Doc James|Doc James]]? Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:32, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: They are also volunteer-based and rely on donations from users to run their servers. See also: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/FAQ -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Like anything else, if you want to do something custom or boss people around you need to pay for it. Miraheze hosting is more similar to WMF hosting where its solid but they aren't going to suddenly bend to your whims if you dont like the existing choices. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:37, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Everyone please check this out! Thank you. == https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/78142 I have requested a new English Wikinews. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :While I appreciate your interest in Miraheze. I do not think it is wise to make a unilateral move when the community is still weighing on the best hosting option. There is still more than a month of time to decide. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Sorry but im pretty sure they have decided. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:45, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], While I appreciate the enthusiasm for saving this project, I'll reiterate Petra - users ''should not'' request a wikinews fork at Miraheze on behalf of the project while discussion is ongoing and we are still waiting for WMF clearance on branding, especially if the person making the request isn't currently an administrator/crat on the wikinews project they're requesting it for. :::While your intentions are good, this will be interpreted as hostile forking and will be declined/deleted. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 04:58, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree with others. Things are still uncertain regarding the migration. When and how it will take place. The community is still discussing it, so please be patient. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:40, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == How to get the entire enwn backed up? == CC @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] -- Hi, does anyone know how I can get the backup of the entire enwn (along with history, local files, logs -- what have you) so that I can keep a copy of it on my local system, and perhaps run it via, say a docker setup? I'd appreciate it if someone could help me with this. [[User talk:Acagastya|•–•]] 09:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :https://dumps.wikimedia.org/ —[[User:Koavf|Justin (ko'''a'''vf)]]❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯ 11:18, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Would you be able to guide me how to run it locally, perhaps? [[User talk:Acagastya|•–•]] 12:07, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :I don’t think the dumps page contains the data for logs or other non page info (may be wrong, if so I’d be glad for someone to correct me). There is probably a way to get this considering replica’s of the databases containing all information for a wiki are publicly accessible, but that may be more involved. I also don’t believe images are provided as an easy dump, but there are pieces of software that can create backups of all page content and images (https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/WikiTeam being the main one). I intend to probably run a dump of the wikinewses closer to the read only date and have it uploaded to the Internet Archive, assuming WikiTeam or someone else doesn’t do so first. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 12:47, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Dumps server contains multiple files with a variety of data. I think the only thing really missing is user data and anything that has been deleted/oversighted. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 17:14, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :::What does user data mean? I won't care about the IP logs, nor should that be publicly available -- but say the scripts that pizero worked on -- lack of that might break the functionality. But does that mean the dumps can recreate the entire wiki? And also, dumps.wm has nothing after 26.01 -- is it not updated monthly? If so, will it be available post May 4. [[User talk:Acagastya|•–•]] 17:27, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::::It doesn't have your password, email,user preferences, that sort of thing. If its non-public information its not in the dumps. I'm not sure what the update frequency is. I think its slower than monthly. I imagine its documented somewhere. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 18:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) == Clarification: WM NYC and Miraheze joint bid and requests on Miraheze == Hello all, as mentioned [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts#Current_Updates on Meta-wiki], WM NYC and Miraheze representatives are in joint discussions with WMF on a potential bid for an approved revival of the Wikinews projects with permission to utilize the same name and branding. While the community's enthusiasm for saving the project is appreciated and understood (hell, I've saved a project from the Fandom memory-hole myself), Miraheze '''''will not approve any new project requests from individuals (especially those who are not admins or crats on the language-specific WN projects)''''' until we have clear and full signoff from the WMF. Thank you for your patience while discussions are ongoing. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:40, 5 April 2026 (UTC) = Coordination Group = Should we create a Telegram group so everyone interested in continuing this project can gather there, or should we simply refresh this page periodically to stay updated on where we should migrate? [[User:Rtnf|Rtnf]] ([[User talk:Rtnf|talk]]) 04:34, 7 April 2026 (UTC) I tried to summarize all the current conversations [http://cyllchuesnconii.rf.gd/Main/Wikinews here].[[User:Niryhpr|Niryhpr]] ([[User talk:Niryhpr|talk]]) 14:31, 7 April 2026 (UTC) gdja9k5ipv1v6imsdund4tzyapphosl User talk:IShowSammy 3 3066880 5005799 5005120 2026-04-07T17:24:45Z FlightTime 169117 FlightTime moved page [[User talk:Wikisam240]] to [[User talk:IShowSammy]]: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/Wikisam240|Wikisam240]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/IShowSammy|IShowSammy]]" 5005120 wikitext text/x-wiki Welcome to the Wikisam Chat Page. If your message to me has been removed from here, see [[User talk:Wikisam240/Archive| my archive here]]. ↓ Leave a message below and I'll look into it. ↓ 1qawy6gdeppc06g3tdqk5wngmup3td1 5005821 5005799 2026-04-07T19:18:31Z IShowSammy 2930641 5005821 wikitext text/x-wiki Welcome to the IShowSammy Chat Page. 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Use [[User talk:Wikisam240|this page]] instead.'' This is a repository to see archived messages below. ↓ Messages from previously: ↓ == Wikinews == is closing you know right? @[[User:Wikisam240|Wikisam240]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:43, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :I am aware, yes. I saw the rest on Meta-Wiki. [[User:Wikisam240|Wikisam240]] ([[User talk:Wikisam240|talk]]) 02:07, 5 April 2026 (UTC) kln3xpgg6mxl4005m6bkkf9y2blij8i 5005822 5005795 2026-04-07T19:18:55Z IShowSammy 2930641 5005822 wikitext text/x-wiki ''Do not use this page to send a message to me! Use [[User talk:IShowSammy|this page]] instead.'' This is a repository to see archived messages below. ↓ Messages from previously: ↓ == Wikinews == is closing you know right? @[[User:IShowSammy|IShowSammy]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:43, 4 April 2026 (UTC) :I am aware, yes. I saw the rest on Meta-Wiki. [[User:IShowSammy|IShowSammy]] ([[User talk:IShowSammy|talk]]) 02:07, 5 April 2026 (UTC) lpntz3hw18wi2s08vvqt9m8rcu1qb5o User talk:Antarctic Foxes 3 3076792 5005970 4985406 2026-04-08T10:58:21Z KonstantinaG07 2768716 KonstantinaG07 moved page [[User talk:Elizaofchaos]] to [[User talk:Antarctic Foxes]]: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/Elizaofchaos|Elizaofchaos]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/Antarctic Foxes|Antarctic Foxes]]" 4985406 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Elizaofchaos}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 00:35, 15 February 2026 (UTC) 3xedwtwr0pg73kg9n9ujy6ej7fxnu7x User talk:Renamed user 47fcf14884d4311b00bcf89e5a793e99 3 3079446 5005890 4989708 2026-04-08T02:02:30Z Mfield 89407 Mfield moved page [[User talk:Cdaniels08]] to [[User talk:Renamed user 47fcf14884d4311b00bcf89e5a793e99]] without leaving a redirect: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/Cdaniels08|Cdaniels08]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/Renamed user 47fcf14884d4311b00bcf89e5a793e99|Renamed user 47fcf14884d4311b00bcf89e5a793e99]]" 4989708 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Cdaniels08}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 04:33, 26 February 2026 (UTC) q4aahn4zchkg3dijd8ireljvwnk2z3s User talk:Betmaan 3 3085326 5005845 4998801 2026-04-07T20:42:21Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* Spam */ new topic ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5005845 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Betmaan}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 12:15, 18 March 2026 (UTC) == Spam == {{spamblock}}[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 20:42, 7 April 2026 (UTC) mkbp00cnsfwyzno7iz244x2elrwrvqy User talk:Renamed user 3522ba3b7eff3b22bd30e928545edc77 3 3086556 5005803 5000726 2026-04-07T17:55:42Z AccountVanishRequests 2880969 AccountVanishRequests moved page [[User talk:Bigemino]] to [[User talk:Renamed user 3522ba3b7eff3b22bd30e928545edc77]] without leaving a redirect: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/Bigemino|Bigemino]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/Renamed user 3522ba3b7eff3b22bd30e928545edc77|Renamed user 3522ba3b7eff3b22bd30e928545edc77]]" 5000726 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Bigemino}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 16:15, 23 March 2026 (UTC) aqeeanki69jiurnlugmcjpneolgkj32 Supreme Court of Finland convicts people involved in writing and publishing pamplet for inciting hatred towards homosexuals 0 3087531 5005771 5005590 2026-04-07T15:30:25Z Loytra 2814029 Removed link to the enwiki page 'crimes against humanity'. That page defines it's scope to be "certain crimes committed as part of a large-scale attack against civilians." While this article uses the term 'crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians' these two topics are intrinsically distinct, and readers are done a disservice by being lead to believe that this case covers large-scale mass killings 5005771 wikitext text/x-wiki {{LGBT}} {{Date|April 6, 2026}} In a landmark ruling on March 26, the {{w|Supreme Court of Finland}} convicted {{w|Päivi Räsänen}}, a member of the {{w|Christian Democrats (Finland)|Christian Democrats}} party in the {{w|Parliament of Finland}} and {{w|Juhana Pohjola}}, the bishop of the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}}, as well as the {{w|Luther Foundation of Finland}} and the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}} of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians. The defendants were convicted under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} concerning {{w|crimes against humanity}}, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made claims about {{w|homosexuality|foreign=force}} that contradicted the consensus of the {{w|scientific community}}. The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of {{w|freedom of speech|foreign=force}} and {{w|freedom of religion}} with {{w|hate speech}} and crimes against humanity as well as {{w|LGBT rights}} and {{w|human rights|foreign=force}} in {{w|liberal democracy|liberal democracies}}. In the pamphlet, ''Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity'', Räsänen argued her belief that homosexuality and {{w|Christianity|foreign=force}} are incompatible. She claimed that homosexuality was a "sexual abnormality" and a "developmental disorder", quoting verses from the {{w|Bible}} to support her argument. The court stated that these claims are contrary to the global {{w|scientific consensus}} that homosexuality is a natural and normal variation of {{w|human sexuality}}, not a disease or disorder. Upon closer examination, the court found that while the parts of the pamphlet were merely subjective religious opinions, other portions {{w|dehumanization|dehumanised}} gays and lesbians on the basis of their sexual orientation, constituting crimes against humanity. The Supreme Court punished Räsänen and Pohjola with 20 day individual fines each that vary depending on individual income or approximately €1800 each, and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese and the Luther Foundation with a corporate fine of €5000, with the latter entities also required take down the false claims. The Supreme Court dismissed a related charge against Räsänen over a post on {{w|X (social network)|X}} (then a {{w|Tweet (social media)|tweet}} on Twitter), that quoted a series of Bible verses, ''Romans 1:24–27'', to back her beliefs about {{w|same-sex relationship}}s, finding that it was merely a subjective religious opinion The response to the ruling from Finnish politicians was mixed. The {{w|Prime Minister of Finland}}, {{w|Petteri Orpo}}, of the centre-right {{w|National Coalition Party}}, took a stand against political interference in the judiciary and stated that "politicians should not comment on court decisions". Those from Räsänen's Christian Democrats party and the right-wing {{w|Finns Party}} criticised the court's decision, with {{w|Riikka Purra}}, the {{w|Deputy Prime Minister of Finland}} posting on social media: "Freedom of speech took another serious hit today through the supreme court’s voting decision." Other politicians praised the decision, with opposition party leader, {{w|Sofia Virta}}, of the centre-left {{w|Green League}}, saying that "Finland is a country where people must not be labelled or mocked without consequence. Freedom of speech is important, but it comes with responsibility.". {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/what-we-do/human-rights/lgbt/|pub=World Medical Association|title=LGBT {{!}} Health and Natural Variations of Human Sexuality|date=March 28, 2026 (date of access)}} *{{source|url=https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/|title=Finland’s Top Court Split on Christian Politician’s Hate Speech Charges|pub=Christianity Today|author=Ken Chitwood|date=March 27, 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/28665-supreme-court-convicts-mp-paeivi-raesaenen-over-hate-speech.html|title=Supreme Court convicts MP Päivi Räsänen over hate speech|pub=Helsinki Times|author=|date=March 27, 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christian.org.uk/news/finnish-christian-mp-convicted-of-crimes-against-humanity-for-church-booklet-on-marriage/|title=Finnish Christian MP convicted of ‘crimes against humanity’ for church booklet on marriage|pub=Christian Institute|date=March 26, 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case|title=Landmark ruling expected in Finnish politician's Bible tweet case|pub=Christian Today|date=March 26, 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder|title=Finnish MP convicted for saying homosexuality is ‘developmental disorder’|pub=The Guardian|author=Miranda Bryant|date=March 26, 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html|title=Supreme Court fines European MP over homosexuality comments|pub=The Independent|author=Anne Kauranen|date=March 26, 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.reuters.com/world/finlands-supreme-court-fines-mp-calling-homosexuality-developmental-disorder-2026-03-26/|title=Finland's Supreme Court fines MP for calling homosexuality 'developmental disorder'|pub=Reuters|author=Anne Kauranen|date=March 26, 2026}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-statement-on-natural-variations-of-human-sexuality/|title=WMA STATEMENT ON NATURAL VARIATIONS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY|pub=World Medical Association|date=October 18, 2013}} *{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-condemns-portrayal-of-homosexuality-as-a-disease/|title=WMA CONDEMNS PORTRAYAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY AS A DISEASE|pub=World Medical Association|date=October 21, 2013}} {{Publish}} [[Category:March 26, 2026]] [[Category:LGBT]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Free speech]] [[Category:Democracy]] [[Category:Christianity]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:European Union]] [[Category:Europe]] fckpqm4zam75qwnzmzt5n5rk60eydf6 User talk:~2026-20557-55 3 3089206 5005844 5005327 2026-04-07T20:40:13Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* Vandalism */ new topic ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5005844 wikitext text/x-wiki == Comment == God, I hope you get blocked soon. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 03:34, 4 April 2026 (UTC) == Copyright violation == {{Copyvio notice|US fighter jet goes down due to strikes}}[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 08:01, 6 April 2026 (UTC) == Vandalism == {{Block|vandalism|24 hours}}[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]) 20:40, 7 April 2026 (UTC) mu948uf22znqvgogijlmszuco5yd1tw User talk:BudyMup 3 3089411 5005842 5004875 2026-04-07T20:21:24Z Litlok 130910 Litlok moved page [[User talk:BUDMP4]] to [[User talk:BudyMup]]: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/BUDMP4|BUDMP4]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/BudyMup|BudyMup]]" 5004875 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=BUDMP4}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 23:11, 4 April 2026 (UTC) 65xrpikofgzd8h4uuyhpvxbivwjhog9 User talk:VamosAndarDescascandoMaçãs 3 3089443 5005951 5004928 2026-04-08T09:56:09Z Eta Carinae 626088 Eta Carinae moved page [[User talk:Satalin Liuscy Sensato]] to [[User talk:VamosAndarDescascandoMaçãs]]: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/Satalin Liuscy Sensato|Satalin Liuscy Sensato]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/VamosAndarDescascandoMaçãs|VamosAndarDescascandoMaçãs]]" 5004928 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Satalin Liuscy Sensato}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 03:08, 5 April 2026 (UTC) 57t1cs9mk7elhmksywe6j7arpp29j9i User:BudyMup 2 3089472 5005840 5004980 2026-04-07T20:21:24Z Litlok 130910 Litlok moved page [[User:BUDMP4]] to [[User:BudyMup]]: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/BUDMP4|BUDMP4]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/BudyMup|BudyMup]]" 5004980 wikitext text/x-wiki Cette encyclopédie, incontournable pour des millions d’internautes et notamment pour les Français, est plus qu’un simple outil, c’est un espace de savoir partagé qui accompagne chacun au quotidien. C’est cette dimension qui m’a motivé à m’investir activement pour participer à son développement. Mes domaines de prédilection ? Les jeux vidéo, avec une affection toute particulière pour Call of Duty, ainsi que l’e-sport, où je soutiens sans faille l’équipe française Paris M8 (#M8WIN). Ces univers reflètent mon attachement aux communautés en ligne et à la culture numérique. Par ailleurs, j’ai une réelle apétence pour la photographie et les voyages, deux passions qui nourrissent ma curiosité et mon envie de découvrir. Mon expérience professionnelle au ministère de l’Intérieur m’a également permis d’acquérir des connaissances en sécurité intérieure. Enfin, je suis quelqu’un de souriant, ouvert et bienveillant. Conscient que chaque contribution est une opportunité d’apprendre, n’hésitez pas à me faire part de vos retours, toujours dans le respect et la bonne humeur. Continuons à faire de Wikipedia une encyclopédie toujours plus riche et fiable ! 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Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 22:07, 7 April 2026 (UTC) fu3dqml02y5hbvezxkg9yahidw6s3bl New registration protocols for XM Partner Code announced for 2026 0 3090079 5005853 2026-04-07T22:13:00Z ~2026-21523-63 2952301 Initial report on financial registration protocols and 2026 identifier updates. 5005853 wikitext text/x-wiki == Technical update on financial registration identifiers == '''Tuesday, April 7, 2026''' Financial monitoring groups have noted a shift in institutional registration protocols for the second quarter of 2026. The updated framework for the '''[[XM Partner Code]]''' system has been deployed to enhance transparency for global partners. The current verified identifier, '''GKY33''', is being utilized to synchronize commission structures across high-frequency trading networks. Industry analysts suggest this move aims to stabilize partner-side documentation during the 2026 fiscal cycle. === Verification Resource === For real-time access to the updated registration guide and institutional logs, the primary documentation node is maintained via professional networks to bypass local server latency: * '''Official Link:''' [https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/xm-partner-code-gky33-verified-7444486174087204864 XM Partner Code GKY33 Institutional Newsletter] ---- === Sources === * {{cite web |url=https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/xm-partner-code-gky33-verified-7444486174087204864 |title=Institutional Verification Node: GKY33 |author=LinkedIn Financial |date=April 7, 2026}} [[Category:Economy and business]] [[Category:Finance]] t8qenx74hc7hcpzt5rpvvlzwu2gkfea 5005859 5005853 2026-04-07T23:01:07Z MathXplore 2807146 Requesting deletion ([[:m:Special:MyLanguage/User:TenWhile6/XReport|XReport]] v3.1b) 5005859 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>{{delete|Spam [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/User:TenWhile6/XReport|XReport]]}}</noinclude> == Technical update on financial registration identifiers == '''Tuesday, April 7, 2026''' Financial monitoring groups have noted a shift in institutional registration protocols for the second quarter of 2026. The updated framework for the '''[[XM Partner Code]]''' system has been deployed to enhance transparency for global partners. The current verified identifier, '''GKY33''', is being utilized to synchronize commission structures across high-frequency trading networks. 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Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 5005933 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Fiwfan221}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 07:41, 8 April 2026 (UTC) tu5f3wfbjwekh3zuj6dmqrflhgkspi0 5005936 5005933 2026-04-08T07:43:34Z Fiwfan221 2952375 /* Sideline Connections Made Easy – Exploring Trongpok Alternative Platforms in Thailand */ new section 5005936 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Fiwfan221}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 07:41, 8 April 2026 (UTC) == Sideline Connections Made Easy – Exploring Trongpok Alternative Platforms in Thailand == In today’s digital landscape, many users are actively searching for a trongpok alternative that delivers a more efficient, transparent, and user-friendly experience. Traditional platforms may sometimes feel limited in terms of navigation, outdated listings, or lack of detailed information, which can make it difficult for users to find what they are looking for. A trongpok alternative typically addresses these challenges by offering improved interface design, better-organized content, and more frequent updates to keep information relevant. Another important advantage of using a [https://fiwfan.app/trongpok69-alternative trongpok alternative] is enhanced usability. Modern platforms often include features such as location-based filtering, structured profile layouts, and clearer communication options. These elements help users browse more easily, compare choices quickly, and reduce the time spent searching through irrelevant or incomplete listings. As a result, the overall experience becomes smoother and more intuitive, even for first-time users. Transparency is also a key factor that drives people toward a trongpok alternative. Platforms that provide detailed profiles, visual previews, and consistent updates allow users to make more informed decisions. This reduces uncertainty and helps build confidence when exploring different options online. In addition, better organization ensures that users can access the most relevant information without unnecessary complexity. As user expectations continue to evolve, the demand for reliable and well-structured platforms is increasing. Choosing the right trongpok alternative not only improves convenience but also enhances overall satisfaction by providing a more controlled and predictable browsing experience. This trend highlights the growing importance of platforms that prioritize clarity, accessibility, and user-centered design in the modern online environment. 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