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-- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 04:51, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
== image source ==
[[Talk:Times_Square_marks_New_Year%27s_Eve_2025_in_New_York_City#Image_credit]] Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:53, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
== Sorry for the mixups ==
Apologies. @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 15:41, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
== Re: [[Controversy around Riyadh Comedy Festival]] ==
Hi Tduk
I came back from a long break and saw the page. The way it is written is biased headline and for the controversy claims and quotes, the dates (essential part of [[WN:5W]]) are unspecified. Could the article possibly be refocused on more recent event (the festival itself) and then later in 3rd or 4th paragraph the details of the controversy and claims be provided? I think that could be a good way to make the article more 'fresh'. (I am open to suggestions from others about this.)
Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:47, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
:And, unfortunately -- this has gone stale -- sorry! I will be deleting it. Hang in there! We appreciate your efforts here.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:27, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
::Are we keeping track of all deleted articles that go stale solely because no one has reviewed them? I hope someone is but if not I am going to start doing it. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 17:48, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
:::Gryllida has started a tool. Keep working -- maybe you will become a Reviewer around here! These things happen from time to time -- I know it is annoying to have your work 'lost' in the grinder of time, but hang in there!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:53, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm not concerned about my own work. This is a very bad look for the whole site and why I was asked here to try to help. There are a lot of policies that need changing and no one seems to want to discuss how to make this site actually work again. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 21:42, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
== New York Music Festival article ==
First: Great effort! Interesting story! You might try to tighten up your language a bit (terse style). Look at paragraph 2. Much of that is rambly and 'crufty' (needless verbiage). We engage in journalistic writing here. And: It has gone horribly stale. Maybe it can be re-freshed --- not sure.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:40, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
:I made some adjustments; is that what you're looking for?
:It's a shame it sat for a full month barely being looked at. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 22:50, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
:: I started a review today and ran into a few hurdles. I've [[Talk:The_Voluptuous_Horror_of_Karen_Black_performs_as_part_of_Vaginal_Davis%27_exhibit_at_MOMA_PS1#Nearly_publishable|posted a message]] on the article talk page and am posting here too, just to be sure you get the opportunity to respond quickly.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]</sub>) 15:27, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
== Hello ==
Saw your story about dog parade car issue.
Unfortunately I am away and cannot review until around mid November.
Please check [[Newsroom]] and [[WN:IRC|live chat]] to help with editing other reports as this may help publish yours sooner.
Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:10, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
== I wanted to say something........ ==
For a newbie, it appears you are picking up on our 'house style' here fairly well. Please hang in there. Inverted pyramid. The Five W's -- all that 'Journalism school' stuff. Keep at it!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:07, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
:...and while I'm at it. Let's draw a line in the sand on your submissions and move forward. I will try to check in more as a Reviewer. See my other comment about a Sandbox -- that might be a smart idea. I don't want to see your OR fail publication. Stay with it!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 11:56, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
::I did indeed stop my submissions once I saw the issues this site is having. I was told to submit things in order to become a reviewer, so that is what I did. I think part of the discussion about original reporting was on the talk page you deleted. Could you restore it somewhere? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:43, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
== Warrington Hudlan article ==
Your words and actions are teetering on the line of being disruptive to this project. I clearly stated: that event happened almost 3 weeks ago. I am deeply familiar with our practices in OR. However: I am a human being and am susceptible to mistakes. I need you to point out for me what/where in that article changes have been made to make THE STORY fresh. 7 days is the outer limit for freshness, when the focal event here happened roughly 18 days prior. Gatwicking may be an option but it won’t be easy.—[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 23:05, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
:The first half of this should indeed have been posted on my talk page and does not belong here, as it's a personal accusation. The second part, regarding freshness, should be on the article's talk page and is once again ignoring the policy as I cited it regarding original research. I am not sure how to state it more clearly. I am not arguing that I made changes to make it fresh - I am arguing that it is still fresh according to policy, which states potentially "additional weeks". Please focus on responding to what I said. If you have an issue with what I was told regarding this by @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] maybe you should ask him why he mentioned it. I would like it explained how discussing policy regarding a single article is disruptive. or is this not what you meant? Links would be helpful. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 23:14, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
::You're new here. I get it. This ''is'' your Talk page. BTW: Nothing is "private" here. This is a wiki. It is a digital community. I am going to state, for the final time: The ''focal event'' of that article was a thing that happened about 3 weeks ago. Weaving in some interviews does not wave a magic wand in terms of freshness. I reviewed that article and marked it as stale. You can (potentially) gatwick the material -- that is a possibility, but will take some concentrated effort. I have evaluated that article. The stuff you like to cite (Regarding OR) hardly applies within the Nth degree in this circumstance. I think you have AMAZING potential here. I have said that I will engage more as Reviewer -- and I meant it. I will look at the article again and will conduct a review. For you to re-submit for publication, something will need to be different.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:25, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
== Award ==
This is notably overdue!
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<br> For completing ''5 edits''.
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== And while I'm at it..... ==
<br>So is this!
<br>[[File:Wikinews WikiNoob.png|110px|left|This [[Wikinews:Contributing Reporter Awards|award]] is presented to new reporters who have started 10 or fewer news articles.]]
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<br>--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:12, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
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== Building collapse article ==
I saw that you'd picked up on something 8 days after the event. That, plus what is in the article, ''plus'' a little something more recent might prove valuable for gatwicking this. I like the photos! This is an important story. What is sitting on the page right now could make 70% of a fairly fresh article. Any other media talk afoot about this event?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:49, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
:I see no additional actions so I will take action on the article as it sits soon.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:05, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
== I promise you... ==
I am trying to encourage you. I mean that -- I really do. If you want to report news, I have been very clear: I will help as much as I can in that endeavor. I am serious! A fairly seasoned user (a moment) ago said you are just talking in circles. That is a correct assessment. I fear you have melted your keyboard telling us everything this project ''isn't'' and how its '''broken''' and what doesn't work correctly. You have pot-stirred and criticized and etc. etc. etc. ''ad nauseaum'' ''ad infinitum'' for MANY DAYS NOW. As far as actions/work/time etc., I have seen dark days around here and INCREDIBLE days around here. I've been though it all -- and there is never a shortage of people who will tell us what English WN '''isn't'''. I actually connected with your suggestion about multiple reviewers -- an idea worth talking about indeed. I have made a promise to you and I will do my level best to fulfill that promise. I hope, from this moment forward, your actions and submissions to this project will be made in a spirit of community and positivity.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:24, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
:I was explicitly asked here by @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] to help, and told writing articles was the best way to start. Most of them went unpublished and not looked at. This was an experience also held by @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] and many others on the [[WN:Newsworthiness]] discussion thread; I became aware of their issues on the site before I experienced them for myself. This is at the very best a failure of {{w|WP:COMPETENCE}} of the site as a whole. You have, frankly, done nothing to restore my faith - alternating overly harsh words to me and others, and the opposite. All of my actions were coming from a space of positivity <i>for the contributors</i>, and it is a bit concerning that you don't see that. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 21:36, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
::I patently see and give you credit for your positivity -- ''where it exists''. That positivity of yours can, around these parts, be '''notably hard to find'''. By my calculations, you've been here a bit under a year. You've had around 7 articles published. A good thing indeed. So, Gryllida asked you to get involved here -- fantastic. She is quite the recruiter. I appreciate her actions. While I try to write clearly and may be a bit over-terse in my language -- '''I am trying to encourage you''' -- I am. Adults have conversations. They say things. A few of my comments might've been a tad angular, but they were NOT written in anger or a desire to ''tell you off'' so-to-speak. For quite some time, I am going to engage with you in terms of writing articles and publishing articles and functioning as an Administrator -- that's it. I want the project to be good...better...best! I do! But: we need reporters reporting and reviewers reviewing. I don't need to hear (for the 89th time) what this project '''isn't'''.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:47, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
::::Please see my response (I just left a few minutes ago) on my Talk page. I hope it provides clarity--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 00:14, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
::I would say most productive effort mode is "20% copyediting others work in Newsroom, 20% writing new stories, 20% software development or testing and 20% connecting with external grants, education institutions, journalistic NGOs and 20% helping with other publishing formats such as spcial media posts, audio output and posting it to audio publishing platforms". Happy to be corrected though. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:08, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
:::In fact, writing requires a larger proportion I think. However, a well-rounded approach is correct. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 23:39, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
::::I think first we need to acquire some "media capabilities," such as having people conduct interviews and publishing relatively complete break news articles, etc(be able). Although we don't know the specific methods, this is one of our development goal. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 23:41, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
== And, we certainly missed this... ==
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== A point of curiosity ==
You'd stated (somewhere around here) about having been involved on this project for decades. Did you have a different user i.d. here? I might've missed some of your older work here.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:44, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
:You can see my first Commons contribution in 2009. What about that confused you? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:03, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
::I think you'd said you'd been around English Wikinews for decades. I took that to mean you'd been a regular contributor to this project for decades. Maybe you were a reader here? Or, did you mean the Wiki Media project? That's what confused me.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:08, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
:::I did not ever say I was involved with wikinews beyond @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] inviting me earlier this year, which I am sure I have mentioned to you before. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:13, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
::::You said "en.wiki" -- my mistake!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:52, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
== Festival article ==
OK, since I am far outside the parameters of Reviewer on this one-- a few minor remarks you might consider:
*There is a LOT going on in that one article, but even more so, a WHOLE LOT going on in that title. It probably could be renamed to focus a little more on the current festival
*Speaking of which: I'm real confused on the dates in play here. I thought I'd read that the film festival itself ran Nov. 6th - 9th -- is that right? If so, please check the last sentence in the article.
*The cluster of images: Maybe tweak some of the captions -- I think 3 images all share the exact same caption. That is a lot of photos for one event, but they do provide a broad perspective of the events (from what I am reading).
<br>I am done with editing on my end. Once you've done whatever you deem fit, feel free to submit for review.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:00, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
:The festival is still going on, and the official website says so. I think you got confused by adding a link to an unrelated festival for some reason. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:07, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
== Energy! ==
I'm a pinch over caffeinated this morning! I'm glad your article was published. It is a good thing here. Keep it up!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:40, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
== I am truly at a loss for words ==
I have typed. I have written. I have explained. I have commented. And for what is seemingly the most bizarre of reasons: Something isn't sticking. When Gryllida undeleted that (terribly stale) article, I can only surmise that you then believed you had carte blanche to do as you saw fit. I could be wrong. I don't know how you think. She prompted you to move it to your ''USER SPACE''. I don't know that you've fooled around much with Sandboxes -- but that is the ONLY PLACE this article belongs (for you to maybe do something with down the road). I did see (very late in the article) some mention of some November and December stuff -- that might have a pinch of possibilities, but only just and will require MAJOR gatwicking. I had MANY things to learn when I came here. Ours can be an uphill experience. I have 4000 pounds of patience for anyone who wishes to learn. You have cajoled and complained and misunderstood to no end. Without counting, you've easily referenced English WN as failure easily 3 times in the past 60 days. Actions like pushing that article out do not help that issue. You indicated that Gryllida asked you to come here to be a Reviewer. You are 5000 miles away from achieving that office as it sits now. You pushing that article out for review is beyond the pale. My words absolutely belong on your Talk page, so other Reviewers can see your actions and my response. I've made minor mention in recent weeks of disruptive edits (and I tend to go very soft on such actions). I will say, for the FINAL TIME: An interview is not a magic wand -- it isn't. If an interview is the FOCAL EVENT of an article (that 100% does not apply on this current submission), we can totally go beyond 7 days...for sure. You are not brand new here. You have (and have had) more than ample time to engage with fresh, meaningful submissions. I care about this project and I profoundly believe you can improve as a reporter -- submissions like this do not move the needle in that regard.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:59, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
:I was very confused when I saw this message on my talk page, since you didn’t actually say what you were talking about. Now I see you’re referring to the article on Yoshiko Chuma. Let’s see what happened exactly.
:* On Oct 30, you deleted the page with no reason supplied.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=delete&user=&page=Dancer+Yoshiko+Chuma+performs+at+the+Children%E2%80%99s+Magical+Garden+in+New+York+City&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist]
:* When I asked why it was deleted, you said it had been marked as abandoned. [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bddpaux&diff=prev&oldid=4894695]. We can now see from the history that this was false.[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Tduk/Dancer_Yoshiko_Chuma_performs_at_the_Children%E2%80%99s_Magical_Garden_in_New_York_City&diff=prev&oldid=4930334]
:* We can also see that I was still actively editing the article - Oct 27, three days before you deleted it. When you deleted it, it was still in the ‘review’ state. [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Tduk/Dancer_Yoshiko_Chuma_performs_at_the_Children%E2%80%99s_Magical_Garden_in_New_York_City&action=history]
:* I then asked why you didn’t move this article to a draft or user space, and you acted like you did not understand [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bddpaux&diff=next&oldid=4894700], so I asked Gryllida off-wiki if I was mistaken.
:* On Nov 11, Gryllida asked me to post on the admin alerts asking that it ‘’’be restored to a sandbox’’’, and I did exactly that. [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Admin_action_alerts&diff=prev&oldid=4926686]
:* On Nov 21, it was finally undeleted - but NOT moved to sandbox. It still had the “review” state it had when you deleted it. [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Tduk/Dancer_Yoshiko_Chuma_performs_at_the_Children%E2%80%99s_Magical_Garden_in_New_York_City&diff=prev&oldid=4930334]
:* Later that day, it looks like you saw it was tagged for “review” and did not remember the series of events that led to this, nor did you investigate it yourself, and instead appear to have jumped to some heated conclusions, including that I had resubmitted it (despite the history making it clear that I did not), resulting in this confused and accusatory message on my talk page. I, and others, have said that when you take this tone, it makes people uncomfortable, yet you continue to do it; others have even asked you to stop, but you refused.[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bddpaux&diff=prev&oldid=4895679]
:* Strangely, on your comment on the talk page, you comment that the festival is over as far as you know, but this article is not about a festival. [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tduk/Dancer_Yoshiko_Chuma_performs_at_the_Children%E2%80%99s_Magical_Garden_in_New_York_City&diff=prev&oldid=4930333] My published article, [[2025 Queens World Film Festival features filmmakers breakfast and ceremony honoring Warrington Hudlin]], was about a festival, but did not end on the date you suggested - although you did also add an incorrect date to that article.[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=2025_Queens_World_Film_Festival_features_filmmakers_breakfast_and_ceremony_honoring_Warrington_Hudlin&diff=next&oldid=4925395]
:* The next day, Michael.C.Wright did the correct thing and moved it to userspace. [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Admin_action_alerts&curid=7100&diff=4930824&oldid=4930483]
:I’m at a loss for how to continue after this, but I feel this does need to be out there. I'd like to thank @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] for helping me recover my writing and @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] for moving it to user space. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:54, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
:::You are 100% correct and I was 100% wrong. If it serves as a modicum of some defense, the little voice said, "Maybe you should double check the timeline." I ignored that voice. I extend my sincere apologies for that action.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:57, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
::::For an apology to be meaningful, it should be both complete and it should result in a change of behavior.
::::* You have not spoken about why you originally deleted the article, back when it was arguably fresh, and I was considering gatwicking it (as I did with another article).
::::* You have not spoken about why you misled me about the reason you deleted the article.
::::* You have not spoken about how inappropriate the tone of your text was, even if your assumptions were correct. This goes beyond this single issue and others besides me have expressed conerns to you over it.
::::* You have actually apologized for heated language in the past, on my talk page, to me [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tduk&diff=prev&oldid=4928411], and attributed it to something questionable in my eyes. This apology immediately proceeded this accusation that you made on my talk page.
::::Are you only apologizing for the fact that you didn’t do due diligence before making accusations? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:12, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
:For being the kind of person capable of creating a bullet list of that nature -- I do hereby retract 5% of my apology and that is the last syllable you will hear from me on the topic.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:40, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
::How are you an admin here if you behave like this? You attempted to admonish a reporter who was in the right, and the above timeline shows the lack of care in managing articles. [[User:SWinxy|SWinxy]] ([[User talk:SWinxy|talk]]) 22:27, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
:::Stop the accusing everyone @[[User:SWinxy|SWinxy]], @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]], @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:53, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
:::Plus @[[User:SWinxy|SWinxy]], your User page for Wikinews is quite bizarre AAAAAAA! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:55, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
::::AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 05:40, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
:::::Hi @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] and @[[User:SWinxy|SWinxy]], [[File:Smiley.svg|18px]]
:::::* I understand that was a human error of the 'I did not see something in that timeline, and made my decision based on incomplete information' kind
:::::* and as the apology was provided, it means that there will be effort to be more careful in the future.
:::::* You may (can't say where, but if requested, I can dig for it) find a part of policy here that says the key focus should be on content. Distracting to talk page beyond a bare minimum is considered a fatal flaw.
:::::Hope this helps at least partially as a clarification.
:::::Best regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:30, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
== A Barnstar! ==
[[File:Barnstar-camera.png|framed|left|]] ''"Camera Barnstar awarded for extraordinary or tireless original reporting"'', this is perfect for you. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 10:41, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
== Hello ==
Hi, could you please install [[User:Asked42/Taglet]] now to help triage new pages by marking them with event dates? this would greatly speed up page review, thanks! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:39, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
== Your article submission for review (December 10) ==
{{Notify_review/passed|article=Robert Dick and Mark Dresser re-unite at the Fridman Gallery|author=Tduk|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]</sub>) 14:41, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
== Published: [[Bruce Gallanter interviews Elliott Sharp, Joe Fonda at Downtown Music Gallery event]] (January 22) ==
{{Notify_review/passed|article=Bruce Gallanter interviews Elliott Sharp, Joe Fonda at Downtown Music Gallery event|author=Tduk|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]</sub>) 16:31, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
:Thank you for getting it out there! [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 17:48, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
:: Thank you for yet another original article.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]</sub>) 19:13, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
:::I just realized I had intended to include [[File:Dmg0102 26.jpg|thumb]] which shows Fonda demonstrating what he did with a book in his early days of bass playing. Can we still get this added? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 22:15, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
:::: yep. Go ahead. I should have time today to sight (approve) the changes.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]</sub>) 22:21, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
== Published: [[Poets gather for reading at Ray's Pizza in New York City]] (February 12) ==
Sending this message to all users who edited the page ...
Published.
Krinkle says copyright of photos is ok.
Suggest to add how long it took, one hour, two hours, or whatever. Suggest to add utc time in parentheses. Minor changes. Can be done in 24hr or less from now.
A bit old. Better to write about it on the day, not a week after. OR kind of makes an exception. But this should be considered in future, to write news straight on the day.
Thank you! -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:14, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
== streak proposal ==
Hi,
I am proposing to setup [[:w:streak]] competition goals over a 12 week period: for example,
* "write one story each two weeks, and [[:wikt:babysit|babysit]] it until it is published" - for as many consecutive fortnights as possible
A role would have to be selected at start of the activity: this could be either ''authoring'' a completely new article or this could be taking over someone else's article and doing focused ''editing'' on it with active collaboration with others until it is published. It is like a [[:wikt:day shift|day shift]] as you are expected to remain available '[[:wikt:on call|on call]]' for 2-3 days after an event that is being subject of a report, to address concerns from another user or reviewer.
The aim of this is to build a habit of participation with [[:wikt:outburst|outburst]]s of eyeballing the page to collaborate with others -- but not every day, to have breaks and reduce [[:wikt:burnout|burnout]]. Could you please check out at '''[[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Streak_themed_competition_proposal|this section]]''' and let me know what you think? Parameters are subject to discussion e.g.
* 'once every two weeks' or 'once a week' or 'once a month'
* should this be same for all or each person decides for themselves
* how long total comp running for, 12 weeks or 24 weeks or some other time
* some other ideas how to modify this
i would appreciate if you could reply by end of this week, it would be helpful
thanks a lot [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:15, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
== Published: [[Musical performance presented by Striped Light in Long Island City, New York showcases four performers]] (February 28) ==
{{Notify_review/passed|article=Musical performance presented by Striped Light in Long Island City, New York showcases four performers|author=Tduk|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright}} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]</sub>) 15:57, 28 February 2026 (UTC)
:Looks good - although I had a question about this change [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Musical_performance_presented_by_Striped_Light_in_Long_Island_City,_New_York_showcases_four_performers&diff=prev&oldid=4990598]. I did not put my name in there and have no objection to it being removed, but you brought up the topic of accredited reporters in your edit description. As far as I know I applied to be accredited a month ago and it has more or less been sitting there gathering dust - did I miss part of the procedure needed? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 21:50, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
== Happy World Poetry Day ==
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== Published: [[Musique Libre Femmes plays for Women's History Month at Tompkins Square Library in New York City]] (March 24) ==
I did minor edits and strongly recommend writing the report immediately after the event, not five days after. The month that is being celebrated, is already almost over now...
I wanted to suggest video or audio uploads from such events if organisers and performers allow this.
Thank you so much for the report. Keep up the great work.
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== Gala article ==
Sorry that one slipped past us! Work has been slamming me lately.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:56, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
:I will just point out to @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] that the story in question, [[Performance Space in New York City holds annual gala honoring three artists]] was 16 days old when they marked it stale[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Performance_Space_in_New_York_City_holds_annual_gala_honoring_three_artists&diff=prev&oldid=5002820], yet their own story [[Wikinews interviews magician and illusion builder Bruce Chadwick for National Magic Week]] was 20 days old when published. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:12, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
::This user marked a few of my articles as stale as well, when they were only 4-5 days old. :( [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:46, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] you still haven't commented on why your story wasn't stale but mine was (in your eyes), let alone this other matter. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:50, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
::::I'm still waiting on a reply to [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Bddpaux#The_Susie_Wiles_story_was_not_stale this question] as well. I reckon my stuff was not stale when you declined to review them. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:03, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
:::I love the fact that this project is on its way to the gas chamber, and you two have to quack about this. ''THIS'' is the last 2 years of this project. This ---- right ----- here. The truth? I made a mistake -- that's the truth -- really. Both of you have my unfettered apologies. Unequivocal. Unmitigated. ''Without reservation.'' Absolutely. That's it. Adios, to one and all! In the words of Dean Martin: Keeps those cards and letters coming! Wait: did that article get published? Gee, I sure I hope it did.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 01:56, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
::::I'm just bitter about the death of democracy and free information, that's all. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:03, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
::::I accept your apology. No hard feelings. It is what it is. You are correct -- We DID do some good stuff around here. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:05, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
::::You did not make a mistake. You made several mistakes, and when asked about them, you refused to reply until just now; are we to believe that was also "mistakes"? Further, I don't really think your tone is appropriate towards myself or towards @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], nor in fact in the past to @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], especially coming from an administrator. Once again I ask you to reflect on your place in what's going on and what meaning your past actions have had on this site and its contributors. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 02:07, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
== Hi. ==
I'm sorry there was nothing we could do to save the project. It sounds like they made up their mind to wipe us out before they even gave us a chance to submit our final pleas. Whatever. I'm not going to try to challenge the project's policies at this point -- why bother? I guess I just don't understand the way things are done here. I guess we're entering into the dark ages. No more free news for the ages. The truth will fade, democracy will die... [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:49, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
:Don’t give up on the fact that this decision is completely baseless, don’t abandon negotiation,let's just stick it out to the end since it’s almost over anyway. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 10:31, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] we're all aware that as things were on this project, it wasn't all that viable. Have you read {{w|Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2013-07-10/Op-ed}} ? Particularly, "''And that's the fundamental problem of Wikinews: it's not a good newssite, regularly missing out important stories that affect large parts of the world, ... For comparison, have a look at Portal:Current events, a fairly obscure little Wikipedia-based side-project, which actually does a really good job at noting current events.''". We all have seen from the inside why this is true, and that there was resistance to changing it. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:56, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
== Revision requested: [[Performance Space in New York City holds annual gala honoring three artists]] (April 6) ==
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== Welcome!!! ==
{{welcome}}
@[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 23:08, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
== Wikinews-Miraheze ==
Hi im trying to revive Wikinews here... https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/78142
Thanks. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
:How many news wikis are you starting? [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:51, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
== Hi ==
i have a news fandom you might like? @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:52, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
:How many news wikis are you starting? [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:51, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
::Check out my Fandom News Wiki. https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki
::@[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 12:41, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
== Published: [[Supreme Court of Finland makes crimes against humanity convictions in landmark ruling]] (April 6) ==
Hi, all, I am sending this message to all contributors to the article.
News is over a week old but I am publishing. The headline could be better but there is so much controversy about how to put it properly that I am content with the current revision.
Overall as a piece of feedback, it is necessary to be more factual and as much as possible insert facts rather than qualitative characterizations. I believe this has substantially improved in the last few days as the article has been revised. Thank you.
I have read the talk page and I believe the concerns there have been satisfactorily addressed in the recent edits and in the resulting current revision.
Copyright check passed flagging only the quote(s) included in the text.
'''I am recommending to add a sentence about expected consequence (fine, jail time) or if it is unknown then, when is this expected to be determined. If you could please make this change within 24 hours, then it could be sighted and be included in the report.'''
Thanks a lot.
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:Thank you! I put a lot of work into that article, so I'm very happy to see you publish it! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:51, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
:@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] Hello, Gryllida! I added the information that you requested, but it is yet to be approved and remains pending review! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 17:47, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
::lol, that was the most popular headline for changes considered. final link [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts people involved in writing and publishing pamplet for inciting hatred towards homosexuals]] -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:55, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
:::lol for sure, also the final link now is [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts individuals and institutions involved in writing and publishing pamphlet for inciting hatred against gays and lesbians]] lol! Will you be approving the pending changes? [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 16:49, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
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{{Date|March 24, 2026}}
[[File:Dmg20260324x 30.png|thumb|Kitamura interacting with the audience{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}}]]
On Tuesday, March 24, {{w|Downtown Music Gallery}} in [[New York City]] continued its ongoing weekly in-store concert series with a night featuring eight {{w|Experimental music|experimental}} {{w|Singing|vocalists}}. The venue was so highly attended that the entire store was full, and people were watching from outside the entrance to the store, which was an unusual occurence. ''Wikinews'' was present for the concert. Experimental vocalists are people who use their voice in music in non-traditional or experimental ways. The performance was scheduled to start at 6:30PM but started shortly after, and ended around 9PM, with people mingling afterwards and making purchases.
Before the performances, Bruce Gallanter, the owner of Downtown Music Gallery, started the event with a verbal history of vocalists:
{{WNIR|Bruce Gallanter}} Alright, I want to welcome everybody. This is Downtown Music Gallery. We have music here every Tuesday starting at 6:30. This has been going on for more than 25 years. Usually three bands.
:Over the last couple of years I've decided to do some more kind of thematic evenings. So tonight we have eight vocalists that are going to be singing for us. It's going to be a different night than what we usually have and I'm really glad about that.
:I prepared a little introduction that has to do with the history of jazz vocals and vocals in general. It starts, you have to picture this, we're going to go back in time 315,000 years. That's considered to be the dawn of mankind. We're in North Africa, there is a tribe of neanderthals or whoever was there at the time. They're descendants of Adam and Eve. They're walking across the desert very slowly. This is before language, so the only sounds that they're able to create are vocal sounds without words. So this is how it starts.
:And they make their way, and they end up in what later became Israel, and they grew over time until they became 12 tribes and then each one of those tribes left and one stayed in Israel and the rest of them traveled to different places on this planet. The last tribe ended up in the US in the Midwest. They're called the Lost Tribe of Israel and they became the first Native Americans. And it took about 50,000 years for those tribes to evolve into having people all around our planet. And many languages came out of that. Every country, like 100 countries, each one had their own language. And every country, those languages would be hundreds of dialects.
:So you have all different types of people speaking, and also the beginning of songs, vocal songs first, and then eventually percussion instruments, flutes, stringed instruments, and we're gonna move forward to the beginning of the 20th century.
:Between 1900 and 1920, this is like in the US, you have vaudeville bands, the very beginning of what became {{w|Dixieland}} and jazz. You also had kind of folk stuff going on. And as far as classical composers go, {{w|Igor Stravinsky}} and {{w|Béla Bartók}} and {{w|Edgar Varese}} composed pieces in the late teens and 20s, and that's kind of a beginning of, you know, all the pre-20th century classical stuff is more kind of melodic and easier to deal with, but when Stravinsky composed Rites of Spring, it was very violent. It had dancers dressed as animals, and people went wild when this music occurred. They flipped out, they couldn't deal with it, it was too much for them.
:So in the 20s, this is what happened. {{w|Duke Ellington}}'s band moved from DC to New York. {{w|Count Basie}} 's band moved from Kansas City to New York. And you had the beginning of an era called the big band era. And that existed from late 20s to around 1945. You had hundreds of big bands that would travel around the country and play. This was a form of entertainment for people. People would get together and they would dance to see these big bands. My parents used to go out dancing on weekends in the 40s and check out these big bands. And there were a lot of them. And I've been listening to more and more just to get an idea of how things unfolded. And a lot of those big bands had singers in them. You probably know a few of the singers like {{w|Bing Crosby}}, {{w|Frank Sinatra}}, {{w|Ella Fitzgerald}}, {{w|Billie Holiday}}, people like that. And that era existed for about 20 years.
:And then when World War II happened and the world kind of changed in a lot of ways, all the big bands started to break up and stop playing. And when people got back from World War II, you had a new form of music that had occurred. And these were members of {{w|Billy Eckstine}}'s big band, {{w|Charlie Parker}}, {{w|Dizzy Gillespie}}, {{w|Max Roach}}, all these people. And they started something which was called bebop. And the bebop was a small group thing. It was hard to play. It's very complex. And it was the first time that music, jazz music, was not about dancing and entertainment. It was about sitting and listening, snapping your fingers, creating poetry. And it affected other things, too.
:So dance, abstract art, all these things sort of came out of that. You had this hipster language that came out of the bebop thing. We'll hear our buddy Lorin (Benedict) doing some hipster language during his set, maybe. Who knows? And in 40, so we had the bebop thing. Now, that lasted approximately 10 years. And in 1949, you have a session called Birth of Cool. That's {{w|Miles Davis}}, {{w|Gerry Mulligan}}, {{w|Lee Konitz}}, Lenny Tristano. And that was another break from what the bebop thing was about. It was a cooler form of jazz.
:And the weird thing was, those beboppers that we talked about who created the cool things, that was an East Coast thing, but the cool thing became more popular on the West Coast. So you had a whole West Coast school in the 50s of all those people doing the cool school stuff.
:Now also in the 50s, {{w|Dizzy Gillespie}} put together a big band ({{w|The Modern Jazz Sextet}}). And in his big band, four members of his big band were {{w|John Lewis (pianist)|John Lewis}}, {{w|Milt Jackson}}, {{w|Connie Kay}}}, and {{w|Percy Heath}}. They started a quartet called the {{w|Modern Jazz Quartet}}. Now the thing about them is they wore tuxedos. They didn't want to play in bars. They wanted to be taken more seriously. So that is the beginning of another form of sort of jazz.
:And Dizzy Gillespie Big Band did a song called "A Bird in Igor's Yard". That was written by {{w|George Russell (composer)|George Russell}}. And it was supposed to be a blend of Charlie Parker and Igor Stravinsky. So a term was coined for that music. It was called third stream. It was coined by {{w|Gunther Schuller}}.
:So in the 50s, you had the end of bebop. You had the next phase of that, which is called hard bop, which is like bebop but with a little bit of funk in there. And you had people who invented that were {{w|Art Blakey}} and {{w|Horace Silver}}.
:So the 50s, let's talk about the 50s. The 50s, a lot of different changes in music were going on. You had some blues cats coming up from down south and making their way to Chicago and playing blues. You had R&B guys doing their thing. You had pop singers. You had also country and rockabilly. Elvis Presley comes from all those elements, including gospel. That's all part of his thing.
:And in 1959, this was a very important year. Three records came out that changed the future of jazz. One was ''{{w|Kind of Blue}}'' by {{w|Miles Davis}} Sextet, I guess, which is great. And it had this thing called modal jazz, which opened up the form to be a little bit freer. You had another record by the {{w|Dave Brubeck}} Quartet called ''{{w|Time Out (album)|Time Out}}''. And that record included songs in weird time signatures. You had "Blue Rondo à la Turk" and "Take Five". So that is another kind of more progressive element that was very popular at the time. And another record that came out that year that wasn't noticed at the time was {{w|Sun Ra}}'s record ''{{w|Jazz in Silhouette}}'', which is a big band record, but it's very progressive.
:And then in California, you had {{w|Ornette Coleman}} Quartet, who moved to New York in 1960. They played for a month at the Five Spot. And when they played, it was very controversial, because no piano player, their music is very kind of free and open, and half the people who went to the gigs hated it, and the other half of the people loved it. And there was fighting going on about if it was important music or not, or if it was really jazz. All those arguments are going on.
:The same period of time, {{w|John Coltrane}} was playing in Miles Davis' sextet, and his solos were getting longer and longer. And he met up with {{w|John Gilmore (musician)|John Gilmore}}, who was the sax player in Sun Ra's band, who was playing with {{w|multiphonics}}. And this is an early way of getting weird sounds on the sax that are now part of the vocabulary of the saxophone. So Coltrane is playing these long solos, and Miles said, you know, we're going on tour in Europe, 1960, and Trane says, "I don't want to tour. I want to start my own band and I want to do my own thing." And Miles begs him, please go on tour. So he goes on tour for 60. After he does that tour, he starts his own quartet. And his own quartet's {{w|Elvin Jones}}, {{w|Jimmy Garrison}}, and {{w|McCoy Tyner}}. And so between '60 and '64 you have a freer form of jazz that's now coming out.
:Now also during that period of time you have the beginning of what we call protest singers. So you had like {{w|Woody Guthrie}} and then {{w|Pete Seeger}} and then you had {{w|Bob Dylan}} and these are people that wrote lyrics that talked about social justice and civil rights. This is a very important thing because it was a way of expressing how you felt and if you felt the world was unjust and you wanted to deal with it. I remember when I was at day camp, I was about eight years old, and I had to learn the words to "{{w|Blowin' in the Wind}}" by {{w|Bob Dylan}}, which is made popular by {{w|Peter, Paul, and Mary}}. And I learned the words, and I remember thinking to myself, this is fascinating. These words actually make me think about the unfairness of the world and what we can do about it. And I realized how much lyrics and voices really affected the way I saw the world.
:Before I started reading newspapers, music was the one thing that spoke to me. And the more music I listened to, the more different types of music I listened to, all those things were part of my understanding of the world. I discovered a band called {{w|The Mothers of Invention}} when I was 13. That's {{w|Frank Zappa}}'s band, and Frank Zappa had this view about the unfairness of society. He wrote a song called "{{w|Trouble Every Day (song)|Trouble Every Day}}". It's a long protest song. I have it memorized, but I'm not going to do it now because this is more about other people tonight. No, no, no. I'll do it. I've done it here once, and I'll do it again. But it's very long. But I think it's an important thing.
:Now, the vocal thing. This is all changing over time we have jazz vocalists singing with big bands singing on their own and then in the sixties people start experimenting with their voices uh... so you have people like Jeanne Lee uh... who else? (audience: Harry Woodward) {{w|Jay Clayton (musician)|Jay Clayton}}, yes, I mean, a lot of these people I got to know in the 70s. I remember seeing, late 70s, {{w|Ellen Christi}}. She was at a jam session I was at in New Jersey, and she was great. And I didn't know who she was. And {{w|Lisa Sokolov}}, I remember seeing. I saw Jeanne Lee play a bunch of times, because I was friendly with her, and {{w|Gunther Hampel}}. But I've always been attracted to vocalists, strong vocalists, and also vocalists who take chances and learn how to do different things with their voices.
:So we're going to celebrate vocalists tonight. We have eight of them that are going to be playing in four sets. All of them are different. They're all coming from different places. They're all going to speak to us in different ways. I'm glad to see more people here than what we usually have. I think that's a beautiful thing. I'll do more thematic things in the future. And I want to thank all you people out there for showing up. And the first set is going to start. And this guy, Lorin, here, he was here on Saturday night with a band. And man, he blew me away. He is really something else. That's all I'm going to say.
Gallanter continued, introducing Charmaine Lee who was performing with Benedict, explaining how they are good friends and she helped both him personally and the store a great deal during the {{w
|Covid pandemic}}.
First to perform was Lorin Benedict and Charmaine Lee, who performed in an almost entirely dark room, lit only by red light. Benedict performed vocals with a microphone only, while Lee performed using a electronic set-up on the table in front of her.
Second was {{w|Kyoko Kitamura}}, who instead of performing in the back of the venue like most performers, performed in the middle, surrounded by people, using her voice and a few hand-held objects. She started off explaining, "As musicians, we're constantly working with layers of listening, and as we bring awareness, it's almost like we're amplifying it, and I'm gonna be adding this very subtle layer on top of everything that's going on." She ended the performance by having the audience join her in making progressively louder exhaling shouts.
Third was Amy Sheffer and Rosi Hertlein, who performed several pieces, with Hertlein also playing violin. For the last piece, they brought out props, which Hertlein juggled in front of the nearby audience, who sometimes assisted.
Last was Noa Fort, Yoon Sun Choi, and Elena Camerin, who all performed using microphones connected to the PA. All three performers used some degree of sound effects alternating with verbiage.
After each performance, there was considerable applause.
== Gallery ==
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|File:Dmg20260324x_26.png|Fort, Choi, and Camerin{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}}
|File:Dmg20260324x_02.png|Kitamura and the audience{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}}
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== Sources ==
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|title = Coming to Downtown Music Gallery
|author = Mike
|pub = Avant Music News
|date = March 8, 2026
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== Original Reporting notes ==
I attended this performance, and recorded audio at points and took photos. I noted the lengths of the sets and discussed the high attendance informally with audience members. I discussed with Gallanter the idea of including his piece at the beginning here, and he approved. I will send scoop the relevant audio for the transcripts, as well as the ends of performances to illustrate the applause. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
*{{ping|Tduk}} The 1949 session with Miles Davis and others should be identified as ''Birth of the Cool'', not ''Earth of Cool'', right? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:10, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
*:Yes corrected. There are other corrections I imagine that need to happen too; I just sent the audio to scoop and when I have a moment I'll listen to it in full and correct anything. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:57, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
{{collapse|Alright, I want to welcome everybody.
This is Downtown Music Gallery.
We have music here every Tuesday starting at 6.30.
This has been going on for more than 25 years.
Usually three bands.
Over the last couple of years I've decided to do some more kind of thematic evenings.
So tonight we have eight vocalists that are going to be singing for us.
It's going to be a different night than what we usually have and I'm really glad about that.
I prepared a little introduction that has to do with the history of
jazz vocals and vocals in general.
And it starts, you have to picture this, we're going to go back in time 315,000 years.
That's considered to be the dawn of mankind.
We're in North Africa, there is a tribe
or whoever was there at the time.
They're descendants of Adam and Eve.
They're walking across the desert very slowly.
This is before language, so the only sounds that they're able to create are vocal sounds without words.
So this is how it starts.
And they make their way, and they end up
later became Israel and they grew over time until they became 12 tribes and then each one of those tribes left and one stayed in Israel and the rest of them traveled to different places on this planet.
The last tribe ended up in the US in the Midwest.
They're called the Lost Tribe of Israel and they became the first Native Americans
And it took about 50,000 years for those tribes to evolve into having people all around our planet.
And many languages came out of that.
Every country, like 100 countries, each one had their own language.
And every country, those languages would be hundreds of dialects.
So you have all different types
to the beginning of songs, vocal songs first, and then eventually percussion instruments, flutes, stringed instruments, and we're gonna move forward to the beginning of the 20th century.
Between 1900 and 1920, this is like in the US, you have vaudeville bands,
the very beginning of what became Dixieland and jazz.
You also had kind of folk stuff going on.
And as far as classical composers go, Igor Stravinsky and Béla Bartók and Edgar Varese composed pieces in the late
teens and 20s, and that's kind of a beginning of, you know, all the pre-20th century classical stuff is more kind of melodic and easier to deal with, but when Stravinsky composed Rites of Spring, it was very violent.
It had dancers dressed as animals, and people went wild when this music occurred.
They flipped out, they couldn't deal with it, it was too much for them.
So in their 20s,
This is what happened.
Duke Ellington's band moved from DC to New York.
Count Basie's band moved from Kansas City to New York.
And you had the beginning of an era called the big band era.
And that existed from late 20s to around 1945.
You had hundreds of big bands that would travel around the country and play.
This was a form of entertainment for people.
People would get together and they would dance.
to see these big bands.
My parents used to go out dancing on weekends in the 40s and check out these big bands.
And there were a lot of them.
And I've been listening to more and more just to get an idea of how things unfolded.
And a lot of those big bands had singers in them.
You probably know a few of the singers like Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holiday, people like that.
And that era existed for about 20 years.
And then when World War II happened and the world kind of changed in a lot of ways, all the big bands started to break up and stop playing.
And when people got back from World War II, you had a new form of music that had occurred.
And these were members of Billy Eckstine's big band, Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Max Roach, all these people.
And they started something which was called Bebop.
And the bebop was a small group thing.
It was hard to play.
It's very complex.
And it was the first time that music, jazz music, was not about dancing and entertainment.
It was about sitting and listening, snapping your fingers, creating poetry.
And it affected other things, too.
So dance, abstract art, all these things sort of came out of that.
You had this hipster language that came out of the bebop thing.
We'll hear Buddy Lauren doing some hipster language during his set, maybe.
Who knows?
And in 40, so we had the bebop thing.
Now, that lasted approximately 10 years.
And in 1949, you have a session called Earth of Cool.
That's Miles Davis, Jerry Mulligan, Lee Konitz, Lenny Tristano.
And that was another break from what the bebop thing was about.
It was a cooler form.
of jazz.
And the weird thing was, those beboppers that we talked about who created the cool things, that was an East Coast thing, but the cool thing became more popular on the West Coast.
So you had a whole West Coast school in the 50s of all those people doing the cool school stuff.
Now also in the 50s, Dizzy Gillespie put together a big band.
And in his big band, four members of his big band were
John Lewis, Bill Jackson, Connie Kay, and Percy Heath.
They started a quartet called the Modern Jazz Quartet.
Now the thing about them is they wore tuxedos.
They didn't want to play in bars.
They wanted to be taken more seriously.
So that is the beginning of another form of sort of jazz.
And Dizzy Gillespie Big Band did a song called A Bird in Igor's Yard.
That was written by George Russell.
And it was supposed to be a blend of Charlie Parker and Igor Stravinsky.
So a term was coined for that music.
It was called third stream.
It was coined by Gunther Schuller.
So in the 50s, you had the end of bebop.
You had the next phase of that, which is called hard bop.
which is like bebop but with a little bit of funk in there.
And you had people who invented that were Art Blakey and Horace Silver.
So the 50s, let's talk about the 50s.
The 50s, a lot of different changes in music were going on.
You had some blues cats coming up from down south and making their way to Chicago and playing blues.
You had R&B guys doing their thing.
You had pop singers.
You had also country and rockabilly.
Elvis Presley comes from all those elements, including gospel.
That's all part of his thing.
And in 1959, this was a very important year.
Three records came out that changed the future of jazz.
One was Kind of Blue by Miles Davis Sextet, I guess, which is great.
And it had this thing called modal jazz, which opened up the form to be a little bit freer.
You had another record by the Dave Brubeck Quartet called Time Out.
And that record included songs in weird time signatures.
You had Blue Mondewala Turk and Take Five.
So that is another kind of more progressive element that was very popular at the time.
And another record that came out that year that wasn't noticed at the time was Sun Ra's record Jazz and Silhouette, which is a big band record, but it's very progressive.
And then in California, you had Ornette Coleman Quartet, who moved to New York in 1960.
They played for a month at the Five Spot.
And when they played, it was very controversial.
because no piano player, their music is very kind of free and open, and half the people who went to the gigs hated it, and the other half of the people loved it.
And there was fighting going on about if it was important music or not, or if it was really jazz.
All those arguments are going on.
The same period of time, John Coltrane was playing
in Miles Davis' quartet, and his solos were getting longer and longer.
And he met up with John Gilmore, who was the sax player in Sun Ra's band, who was playing with multiphonics.
And this is an early way of getting weird sounds on the sax that are now part of the vocabulary of the saxophone.
So Coltrane is playing these long solos, and Miles said, you know, we're going on tour in Europe, 1960, and Trane says,
I don't want to tour.
I want to start my own band and I want to do my own thing."
And Miles begs him, please go on tour.
So he goes on tour for 60.
After he does that tour, he starts his own quartet.
And his own quartet's Elvin Jones, Jimmy Garrison, and McCoy Tyner.
And so between 60 and 64 you have a freer form of jazz that's now coming out.
Now also during that period of time you have the beginning of what we call protest singers.
So you had like Woody Guthrie and then Pete Seeger and then you had Bob Dylan and these are people that wrote lyrics that talked about social justice and civil rights.
This is a very important thing because it was a way of expressing how you felt
and if you felt the world was unjust and you wanted to deal with it.
I remember when I was at day camp, I was about eight years old, and I had to learn the words to Blown in the Wind by Bob Dylan, which is made popular by Peter, Paul, and Mary.
And I learned the words, and I remember thinking to myself, this is fascinating.
These words actually make me think about the unfairness of the world and what we can do about it.
And I realized how much lyrics and voices really affected the way I saw the world.
Before I started reading newspapers, music was the one thing that spoke to me.
And the more music I listened to, the more different types of music I listened to, all those things were part of my understanding of the world.
I discovered a band called The Mothers of Invention when I was 13.
That's Frank Zappa's band, and Frank Zappa
had this view about the unfairness of society.
He wrote a song called Trouble Every Day.
It's a long protest song.
I haven't memorized, but I'm not going to do it now because this is more about other people tonight.
No, no, no.
I'll do it.
I've done it here once, and I'll do it again.
But it's very long.
But I think it's an important thing.
Now, the vocal thing.
this is all changing over time we have jazz vocalists singing with big bands singing on the road and then in the sixties people start experimenting with their voices uh... so you have people like gene lee uh... who else?
harry woodard jay clayton yes
I mean, a lot of these people I got to know in the 70s.
I remember seeing, late 70s, Ellen Christie.
She was at a jam session I was at in New Jersey, and she was great.
And I didn't know who she was.
And Lisa Sokoloff, I remember seeing.
I saw Jean Lee play a bunch of times, because I was friendly with her, and Gunther Hoppel.
But I've always been attracted to vocalists,
strong vocalists, and also vocalists who take chances and learn how to do different things with their voices.
So we're going to celebrate vocalists tonight.
We have eight of them that are going to be playing in four sets.
All of them are different.
They're all coming from different places.
They're all going to speak to us in different ways.
I'm glad to see more people here than what we usually have.
I think that's a beautiful thing.
I'll do more thematic things in the future.
And I want to thank all you people out there for showing up.
And the first set is going to start.
And Skylar here, he was here on Saturday night with a band.
And man, he blew me away.
He is really something else.
That's all I'm going to say.
}}[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:21, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
:sent to scoop [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 00:30, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
: Four emails were received via Scoop, collectively containing four MP3 audio files. No additional notes were included, either as attachments or within the body of the emails.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]</sub>) 06:31, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
::My mistake, I didn't include the notes since I didn't use them: First performance runtime about 22 minutes. Second about 10 minutes. Third about 30 minutes. Fourth also about 30 minutes. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:10, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
:::corrections per BLG:
:::{{collapse|Milt Jackson not Bill Jackson
:::Miles davis Sextet not quartet
:::Jeanne Lee was married to Gunter Hampel }} [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:47, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
== Title change ==
I'm not sure the new title communicates that the performance featured exclusively vocalists. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:25, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]]
:1. An uninformed reader, especially foreigner, may ask: "What is a vocalist?". Please wikilink or clarify.
:2. Can "The venue was so highly attended that the entire store was full, and people were watching from outside the entrance to the store." be worded to clarify: is this normally the case for such events at this space?
:3. What is an 'experimental vocalist'? Please clarify.
:4. Can the time when the event started, and when it ended, be included either in the first or in the second paragraph?
:5. Is the website being a pest, or are images only 100px wide? I suggest using the gallery tag to include images at the end of the story in full size. Often the widths parameter is set to at least 800px and the heights parameters is set to 600px (correct me if i am wrong; check the photo essay category for previous submissions).
:6. The long quote included in article which is more than 80% of it is there like if it was released under creative commons. Did the speaker confirm the licensing properly beyond saying 'sure, put it in Wikinews if you want'?
:This is not an actionable note, I think the image quality or post processing could be improved. Like this camera does not cope very well with darker environment.
:As noted previously, it is better to report on this much sooner after it happened. I suggest that you team up with a friend to help you with transcription and write-up. This can be either IRL friend or an online peer who is responsive and is accurate and understands, or wants to understand, what needs to be done. It would be ideal if submissions did not occur two weeks after the event each time.
:I think items 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 can be addressed before publishing. Hope this makes sense.
:Many thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:48, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
::I made all these changes, some are useful. I don't want to get too far into original research. I did discuss with Gallanter publishing this piece, though I did not record it. I'll see if I can get in touch to get an email OKing it. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:40, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
:::I got in touch with Gallanter who will be sending me a few corrections. When I get that, I'll forward it to scoop. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:07, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
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== Original Reporting notes ==
I attended this performance, and recorded audio at points and took photos. I noted the lengths of the sets and discussed the high attendance informally with audience members. I discussed with Gallanter the idea of including his piece at the beginning here, and he approved. I will send scoop the relevant audio for the transcripts, as well as the ends of performances to illustrate the applause. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
*{{ping|Tduk}} The 1949 session with Miles Davis and others should be identified as ''Birth of the Cool'', not ''Earth of Cool'', right? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:10, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
*:Yes corrected. There are other corrections I imagine that need to happen too; I just sent the audio to scoop and when I have a moment I'll listen to it in full and correct anything. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:57, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
{{collapse|Alright, I want to welcome everybody.
This is Downtown Music Gallery.
We have music here every Tuesday starting at 6.30.
This has been going on for more than 25 years.
Usually three bands.
Over the last couple of years I've decided to do some more kind of thematic evenings.
So tonight we have eight vocalists that are going to be singing for us.
It's going to be a different night than what we usually have and I'm really glad about that.
I prepared a little introduction that has to do with the history of
jazz vocals and vocals in general.
And it starts, you have to picture this, we're going to go back in time 315,000 years.
That's considered to be the dawn of mankind.
We're in North Africa, there is a tribe
or whoever was there at the time.
They're descendants of Adam and Eve.
They're walking across the desert very slowly.
This is before language, so the only sounds that they're able to create are vocal sounds without words.
So this is how it starts.
And they make their way, and they end up
later became Israel and they grew over time until they became 12 tribes and then each one of those tribes left and one stayed in Israel and the rest of them traveled to different places on this planet.
The last tribe ended up in the US in the Midwest.
They're called the Lost Tribe of Israel and they became the first Native Americans
And it took about 50,000 years for those tribes to evolve into having people all around our planet.
And many languages came out of that.
Every country, like 100 countries, each one had their own language.
And every country, those languages would be hundreds of dialects.
So you have all different types
to the beginning of songs, vocal songs first, and then eventually percussion instruments, flutes, stringed instruments, and we're gonna move forward to the beginning of the 20th century.
Between 1900 and 1920, this is like in the US, you have vaudeville bands,
the very beginning of what became Dixieland and jazz.
You also had kind of folk stuff going on.
And as far as classical composers go, Igor Stravinsky and Béla Bartók and Edgar Varese composed pieces in the late
teens and 20s, and that's kind of a beginning of, you know, all the pre-20th century classical stuff is more kind of melodic and easier to deal with, but when Stravinsky composed Rites of Spring, it was very violent.
It had dancers dressed as animals, and people went wild when this music occurred.
They flipped out, they couldn't deal with it, it was too much for them.
So in their 20s,
This is what happened.
Duke Ellington's band moved from DC to New York.
Count Basie's band moved from Kansas City to New York.
And you had the beginning of an era called the big band era.
And that existed from late 20s to around 1945.
You had hundreds of big bands that would travel around the country and play.
This was a form of entertainment for people.
People would get together and they would dance.
to see these big bands.
My parents used to go out dancing on weekends in the 40s and check out these big bands.
And there were a lot of them.
And I've been listening to more and more just to get an idea of how things unfolded.
And a lot of those big bands had singers in them.
You probably know a few of the singers like Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holiday, people like that.
And that era existed for about 20 years.
And then when World War II happened and the world kind of changed in a lot of ways, all the big bands started to break up and stop playing.
And when people got back from World War II, you had a new form of music that had occurred.
And these were members of Billy Eckstine's big band, Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Max Roach, all these people.
And they started something which was called Bebop.
And the bebop was a small group thing.
It was hard to play.
It's very complex.
And it was the first time that music, jazz music, was not about dancing and entertainment.
It was about sitting and listening, snapping your fingers, creating poetry.
And it affected other things, too.
So dance, abstract art, all these things sort of came out of that.
You had this hipster language that came out of the bebop thing.
We'll hear Buddy Lauren doing some hipster language during his set, maybe.
Who knows?
And in 40, so we had the bebop thing.
Now, that lasted approximately 10 years.
And in 1949, you have a session called Earth of Cool.
That's Miles Davis, Jerry Mulligan, Lee Konitz, Lenny Tristano.
And that was another break from what the bebop thing was about.
It was a cooler form.
of jazz.
And the weird thing was, those beboppers that we talked about who created the cool things, that was an East Coast thing, but the cool thing became more popular on the West Coast.
So you had a whole West Coast school in the 50s of all those people doing the cool school stuff.
Now also in the 50s, Dizzy Gillespie put together a big band.
And in his big band, four members of his big band were
John Lewis, Bill Jackson, Connie Kay, and Percy Heath.
They started a quartet called the Modern Jazz Quartet.
Now the thing about them is they wore tuxedos.
They didn't want to play in bars.
They wanted to be taken more seriously.
So that is the beginning of another form of sort of jazz.
And Dizzy Gillespie Big Band did a song called A Bird in Igor's Yard.
That was written by George Russell.
And it was supposed to be a blend of Charlie Parker and Igor Stravinsky.
So a term was coined for that music.
It was called third stream.
It was coined by Gunther Schuller.
So in the 50s, you had the end of bebop.
You had the next phase of that, which is called hard bop.
which is like bebop but with a little bit of funk in there.
And you had people who invented that were Art Blakey and Horace Silver.
So the 50s, let's talk about the 50s.
The 50s, a lot of different changes in music were going on.
You had some blues cats coming up from down south and making their way to Chicago and playing blues.
You had R&B guys doing their thing.
You had pop singers.
You had also country and rockabilly.
Elvis Presley comes from all those elements, including gospel.
That's all part of his thing.
And in 1959, this was a very important year.
Three records came out that changed the future of jazz.
One was Kind of Blue by Miles Davis Sextet, I guess, which is great.
And it had this thing called modal jazz, which opened up the form to be a little bit freer.
You had another record by the Dave Brubeck Quartet called Time Out.
And that record included songs in weird time signatures.
You had Blue Mondewala Turk and Take Five.
So that is another kind of more progressive element that was very popular at the time.
And another record that came out that year that wasn't noticed at the time was Sun Ra's record Jazz and Silhouette, which is a big band record, but it's very progressive.
And then in California, you had Ornette Coleman Quartet, who moved to New York in 1960.
They played for a month at the Five Spot.
And when they played, it was very controversial.
because no piano player, their music is very kind of free and open, and half the people who went to the gigs hated it, and the other half of the people loved it.
And there was fighting going on about if it was important music or not, or if it was really jazz.
All those arguments are going on.
The same period of time, John Coltrane was playing
in Miles Davis' quartet, and his solos were getting longer and longer.
And he met up with John Gilmore, who was the sax player in Sun Ra's band, who was playing with multiphonics.
And this is an early way of getting weird sounds on the sax that are now part of the vocabulary of the saxophone.
So Coltrane is playing these long solos, and Miles said, you know, we're going on tour in Europe, 1960, and Trane says,
I don't want to tour.
I want to start my own band and I want to do my own thing."
And Miles begs him, please go on tour.
So he goes on tour for 60.
After he does that tour, he starts his own quartet.
And his own quartet's Elvin Jones, Jimmy Garrison, and McCoy Tyner.
And so between 60 and 64 you have a freer form of jazz that's now coming out.
Now also during that period of time you have the beginning of what we call protest singers.
So you had like Woody Guthrie and then Pete Seeger and then you had Bob Dylan and these are people that wrote lyrics that talked about social justice and civil rights.
This is a very important thing because it was a way of expressing how you felt
and if you felt the world was unjust and you wanted to deal with it.
I remember when I was at day camp, I was about eight years old, and I had to learn the words to Blown in the Wind by Bob Dylan, which is made popular by Peter, Paul, and Mary.
And I learned the words, and I remember thinking to myself, this is fascinating.
These words actually make me think about the unfairness of the world and what we can do about it.
And I realized how much lyrics and voices really affected the way I saw the world.
Before I started reading newspapers, music was the one thing that spoke to me.
And the more music I listened to, the more different types of music I listened to, all those things were part of my understanding of the world.
I discovered a band called The Mothers of Invention when I was 13.
That's Frank Zappa's band, and Frank Zappa
had this view about the unfairness of society.
He wrote a song called Trouble Every Day.
It's a long protest song.
I haven't memorized, but I'm not going to do it now because this is more about other people tonight.
No, no, no.
I'll do it.
I've done it here once, and I'll do it again.
But it's very long.
But I think it's an important thing.
Now, the vocal thing.
this is all changing over time we have jazz vocalists singing with big bands singing on the road and then in the sixties people start experimenting with their voices uh... so you have people like gene lee uh... who else?
harry woodard jay clayton yes
I mean, a lot of these people I got to know in the 70s.
I remember seeing, late 70s, Ellen Christie.
She was at a jam session I was at in New Jersey, and she was great.
And I didn't know who she was.
And Lisa Sokoloff, I remember seeing.
I saw Jean Lee play a bunch of times, because I was friendly with her, and Gunther Hoppel.
But I've always been attracted to vocalists,
strong vocalists, and also vocalists who take chances and learn how to do different things with their voices.
So we're going to celebrate vocalists tonight.
We have eight of them that are going to be playing in four sets.
All of them are different.
They're all coming from different places.
They're all going to speak to us in different ways.
I'm glad to see more people here than what we usually have.
I think that's a beautiful thing.
I'll do more thematic things in the future.
And I want to thank all you people out there for showing up.
And the first set is going to start.
And Skylar here, he was here on Saturday night with a band.
And man, he blew me away.
He is really something else.
That's all I'm going to say.
}}[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:21, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
:sent to scoop [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 00:30, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
: Four emails were received via Scoop, collectively containing four MP3 audio files. No additional notes were included, either as attachments or within the body of the emails.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]</sub>) 06:31, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
::My mistake, I didn't include the notes since I didn't use them: First performance runtime about 22 minutes. Second about 10 minutes. Third about 30 minutes. Fourth also about 30 minutes. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:10, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
:::corrections per BLG:
:::{{collapse|Milt Jackson not Bill Jackson
:::Miles davis Sextet not quartet
:::Jeanne Lee was married to Gunter Hampel }} [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:47, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
== Title change ==
I'm not sure the new title communicates that the performance featured exclusively vocalists. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:25, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]]
:1. An uninformed reader, especially foreigner, may ask: "What is a vocalist?". Please wikilink or clarify.
:2. Can "The venue was so highly attended that the entire store was full, and people were watching from outside the entrance to the store." be worded to clarify: is this normally the case for such events at this space?
:3. What is an 'experimental vocalist'? Please clarify.
:4. Can the time when the event started, and when it ended, be included either in the first or in the second paragraph?
:5. Is the website being a pest, or are images only 100px wide? I suggest using the gallery tag to include images at the end of the story in full size. Often the widths parameter is set to at least 800px and the heights parameters is set to 600px (correct me if i am wrong; check the photo essay category for previous submissions).
:6. The long quote included in article which is more than 80% of it is there like if it was released under creative commons. Did the speaker confirm the licensing properly beyond saying 'sure, put it in Wikinews if you want'?
:This is not an actionable note, I think the image quality or post processing could be improved. Like this camera does not cope very well with darker environment.
:As noted previously, it is better to report on this much sooner after it happened. I suggest that you team up with a friend to help you with transcription and write-up. This can be either IRL friend or an online peer who is responsive and is accurate and understands, or wants to understand, what needs to be done. It would be ideal if submissions did not occur two weeks after the event each time.
:I think items 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 can be addressed before publishing. Hope this makes sense.
:Many thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:48, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
::I made all these changes, some are useful. I don't want to get too far into original research. I did discuss with Gallanter publishing this piece, though I did not record it. I'll see if I can get in touch to get an email OKing it. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:40, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
:::I got in touch with Gallanter who will be sending me a few corrections. When I get that, I'll forward it to scoop. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:07, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
::::I sent his corrections to scoop, listed them above, and incorporated them in the article. It should be close to ready now. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:50, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
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In a landmark ruling on March 26, the {{w|Supreme Court of Finland}} convicted {{w|Päivi Räsänen}}, a member of the {{w|Christian Democrats (Finland)|Christian Democrats}} party in the {{w|Parliament of Finland}} and {{w|Juhana Pohjola}}, the bishop of the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}}, as well as the {{w|Luther Foundation of Finland}} and the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}} of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians. The defendants were convicted under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} concerning {{w|crimes against humanity}}, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made claims about {{w|homosexuality|foreign=force}} that contradicted the consensus of the {{w|scientific community}}. The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of {{w|freedom of speech|foreign=force}} and {{w|freedom of religion}} with {{w|hate speech}} and crimes against humanity as well as {{w|LGBT rights}} and {{w|human rights|foreign=force}} in {{w|liberal democracy|liberal democracies}}.
In the pamphlet, ''Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity'', Räsänen argued her belief that homosexuality and {{w|Christianity|foreign=force}} are incompatible. She claimed that homosexuality was a "sexual abnormality" and a "developmental disorder", quoting verses from the {{w|Bible}} to support her argument. The court stated that these claims are contrary to the global {{w|scientific consensus}} that homosexuality is a natural and normal variation of {{w|human sexuality}}, not a disease or disorder. Upon closer examination, the court found that while the parts of the pamphlet were merely subjective religious opinions, other portions {{w|dehumanization|dehumanised}} gays and lesbians on the basis of their sexual orientation, constituting crimes against humanity.
The Supreme Court punished Räsänen and Pohjola with 20 day individual fines each that vary depending on individual income or approximately €1800 each, and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese and the Luther Foundation with a corporate fine of €5000, with the latter entities also required take down the false claims. The Supreme Court dismissed a related charge against Räsänen over a post on {{w|X (social network)|X}} (then a {{w|Tweet (social media)|tweet}} on Twitter), that quoted a series of Bible verses, ''Romans 1:24–27'', to back her beliefs about {{w|same-sex relationship}}s, finding that it was merely a subjective religious opinion
The response to the ruling from Finnish politicians was mixed. The {{w|Prime Minister of Finland}}, {{w|Petteri Orpo}}, of the centre-right {{w|National Coalition Party}}, took a stand against political interference in the judiciary and stated that "politicians should not comment on court decisions". Those from Räsänen's Christian Democrats party and the right-wing {{w|Finns Party}} criticised the court's decision, with {{w|Riikka Purra}}, the {{w|Deputy Prime Minister of Finland}} posting on social media: "Freedom of speech took another serious hit today through the supreme court’s voting decision." Other politicians praised the decision, with opposition party leader, {{w|Sofia Virta}}, of the centre-left {{w|Green League}}, saying that "Finland is a country where people must not be labelled or mocked without consequence. Freedom of speech is important, but it comes with responsibility.".
{{haveyoursay}}
==Sources==
*{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/what-we-do/human-rights/lgbt/|pub=World Medical Association|title=LGBT {{!}} Health and Natural Variations of Human Sexuality|date=March 28, 2026 (date of access)}}
*{{source|url=https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/|title=Finland’s Top Court Split on Christian Politician’s Hate Speech Charges|pub=Christianity Today|author=Ken Chitwood|date=March 27, 2026}}
*{{source|url=https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/28665-supreme-court-convicts-mp-paeivi-raesaenen-over-hate-speech.html|title=Supreme Court convicts MP Päivi Räsänen over hate speech|pub=Helsinki Times|author=|date=March 27, 2026}}
*{{source|url=https://www.christian.org.uk/news/finnish-christian-mp-convicted-of-crimes-against-humanity-for-church-booklet-on-marriage/|title=Finnish Christian MP convicted of ‘crimes against humanity’ for church booklet on marriage|pub=Christian Institute|date=March 26, 2026}}
*{{source|url=https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case|title=Landmark ruling expected in Finnish politician's Bible tweet case|pub=Christian Today|date=March 26, 2026}}
*{{source|url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder|title=Finnish MP convicted for saying homosexuality is ‘developmental disorder’|pub=The Guardian|author=Miranda Bryant|date=March 26, 2026}}
*{{source|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html|title=Supreme Court fines European MP over homosexuality comments|pub=The Independent|author=Anne Kauranen|date=March 26, 2026}}
*{{source|url=https://www.reuters.com/world/finlands-supreme-court-fines-mp-calling-homosexuality-developmental-disorder-2026-03-26/|title=Finland's Supreme Court fines MP for calling homosexuality 'developmental disorder'|pub=Reuters|author=Anne Kauranen|date=March 26, 2026}}
*{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-statement-on-natural-variations-of-human-sexuality/|title=WMA STATEMENT ON NATURAL VARIATIONS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY|pub=World Medical Association|date=October 18, 2013}}
*{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-condemns-portrayal-of-homosexuality-as-a-disease/|title=WMA CONDEMNS PORTRAYAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY AS A DISEASE|pub=World Medical Association|date=October 21, 2013}}
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{{LGBT}}
{{Date|April 6, 2026}}
In a landmark ruling on March 26, the {{w|Supreme Court of Finland}} convicted {{w|Päivi Räsänen}}, a member of the {{w|Christian Democrats (Finland)|Christian Democrats}} party in the {{w|Parliament of Finland}} and {{w|Juhana Pohjola}}, the bishop of the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}}, as well as the {{w|Luther Foundation of Finland}} and the {{w|Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese of Finland}} of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians. The defendants were convicted under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} concerning {{w|crimes against humanity}}, over a pamphlet written by Räsänen, edited by Pohjola, and published by the Luther Foundation and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese that made claims about {{w|homosexuality|foreign=force}} that contradicted the consensus of the {{w|scientific community}}. The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of {{w|freedom of speech|foreign=force}} and {{w|freedom of religion}} with {{w|hate speech}} and crimes against humanity as well as {{w|LGBT rights}} and {{w|human rights|foreign=force}} in {{w|liberal democracy|liberal democracies}}.
In the pamphlet, ''Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity'', Räsänen argued her belief that homosexuality and {{w|Christianity|foreign=force}} are incompatible. She claimed that homosexuality was a "sexual abnormality" and a "developmental disorder", quoting verses from the {{w|Bible}} to support her argument. The court stated that these claims are contrary to the global {{w|scientific consensus}} that homosexuality is a natural and normal variation of {{w|human sexuality}}, not a disease or disorder. Upon closer examination, the court found that while the parts of the pamphlet were merely subjective religious opinions, other portions {{w|dehumanization|dehumanised}} gays and lesbians on the basis of their sexual orientation, constituting crimes against humanity.
The Supreme Court punished Räsänen and Pohjola with 20 day individual fines each that vary depending on individual income or approximately €1800 each, and the Evangelical Lutheran Mission Diocese and the Luther Foundation with a corporate fine of €5000, with the latter entities also required take down the false claims. The Supreme Court dismissed a related charge against Räsänen over a post on {{w|X (social network)|X}} (then a {{w|Tweet (social media)|tweet}} on Twitter), that quoted a series of Bible verses, ''Romans 1:24–27'', to back her beliefs about {{w|same-sex relationship}}s, finding that it was merely a subjective religious opinion
The response to the ruling from Finnish politicians was mixed. The {{w|Prime Minister of Finland}}, {{w|Petteri Orpo}}, of the centre-right {{w|National Coalition Party}}, took a stand against political interference in the judiciary and stated that "politicians should not comment on court decisions". Those from Räsänen's Christian Democrats party and the right-wing {{w|Finns Party}} criticised the court's decision, with {{w|Riikka Purra}}, the {{w|Deputy Prime Minister of Finland}} posting on social media: "Freedom of speech took another serious hit today through the supreme court’s voting decision." Other politicians praised the decision, with opposition party leader, {{w|Sofia Virta}}, of the centre-left {{w|Green League}}, saying that "Finland is a country where people must not be labelled or mocked without consequence. Freedom of speech is important, but it comes with responsibility.".
{{haveyoursay}}
==Sources==
*{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/what-we-do/human-rights/lgbt/|pub=World Medical Association|title=LGBT {{!}} Health and Natural Variations of Human Sexuality|date=March 28, 2026 (date of access)}}
*{{source|url=https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/|title=Finland’s Top Court Split on Christian Politician’s Hate Speech Charges|pub=Christianity Today|author=Ken Chitwood|date=March 27, 2026}}
*{{source|url=https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/28665-supreme-court-convicts-mp-paeivi-raesaenen-over-hate-speech.html|title=Supreme Court convicts MP Päivi Räsänen over hate speech|pub=Helsinki Times|author=|date=March 27, 2026}}
*{{source|url=https://www.christian.org.uk/news/finnish-christian-mp-convicted-of-crimes-against-humanity-for-church-booklet-on-marriage/|title=Finnish Christian MP convicted of ‘crimes against humanity’ for church booklet on marriage|pub=Christian Institute|date=March 26, 2026}}
*{{source|url=https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case|title=Landmark ruling expected in Finnish politician's Bible tweet case|pub=Christian Today|date=March 26, 2026}}
*{{source|url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder|title=Finnish MP convicted for saying homosexuality is ‘developmental disorder’|pub=The Guardian|author=Miranda Bryant|date=March 26, 2026}}
*{{source|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html|title=Supreme Court fines European MP over homosexuality comments|pub=The Independent|author=Anne Kauranen|date=March 26, 2026}}
*{{source|url=https://www.reuters.com/world/finlands-supreme-court-fines-mp-calling-homosexuality-developmental-disorder-2026-03-26/|title=Finland's Supreme Court fines MP for calling homosexuality 'developmental disorder'|pub=Reuters|author=Anne Kauranen|date=March 26, 2026}}
*{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/policies-post/wma-statement-on-natural-variations-of-human-sexuality/|title=WMA STATEMENT ON NATURAL VARIATIONS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY|pub=World Medical Association|date=October 18, 2013}}
*{{source|url=https://www.wma.net/news-post/wma-condemns-portrayal-of-homosexuality-as-a-disease/|title=WMA CONDEMNS PORTRAYAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY AS A DISEASE|pub=World Medical Association|date=October 21, 2013}}
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== Headline question ==
I questioned the use of the term "crimes against humanity" in the headline and lead paragraph based on the following:
:I would note that one of the cited sources, [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder this article from The Guardian], begins with the sentence, "A Finnish member of parliament has been found guilty by the country’s supreme court of inciting hatred after claiming that homosexuality was a 'developmental disorder', in a conviction that prompted criticism from far-right government ministers." That source doesn't even mention the term "crimes against humanity" at all. Another cited article from [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html The Independent] doesn't mention "crimes against humanity", either. I am also concerned that the use of the term "{{w|crimes against humanity}}" may be considered misleading as to the nature of the charges involved notwithstanding how the term is used in the Finnish Criminal Code which few English Wikinews readers may be familiar with.
[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:16, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
:Hello, Metropolitan90! [[User_talk:Metropolitan90#c-Justthefacts-20260328005600-Regarding your move of my article|As I also noted in a message to you on your user talk page]], the actual charge, the actual crime, and the actual conviction all fall under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} that concerns {{w|crimes against humanity}}. Moreover, there is a particular focus from several sources on the fact that Räsänen and Pohjola were convicted under the section of the Criminal Code of Finland that concerns crimes against humanity. If there are any ambiguities at all, all will be resolved when readers read the article itself. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 01:37, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
::Two of the cited sources ([https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case Christian Today], [https://adfinternational.org/news/breaking-landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-bible-tweet-case-tomorrow ADF International]) both say that Rasanen was convicted under a section titled “war crimes and crimes against humanity”, but I hope we're not going to change the headline to say that Rasanen and Pohjola were convicted of war crimes, too. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:57, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
:::The section specifically concerns crimes against humanity and courts determine the severity of the crimes against humanity that were committed, which can range from simply dehumanising a minority to genocide and war crimes. The section of the criminal code of Finland is based on the expertise and scholarship of experts and scholars of crimes against humanity who hold that crimes against humanity begin relatively simple in the form of simply dehumanising minorities and continue escalating until eventually genocide and war crimes. This landmark ruling is precisely regarded as such because it considers that even the most simplest form, dehumanising a minority, does indeed constitute a crime against humanity in and of itself. --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 02:04, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
==Luther Foundation==
Where does it say that the Luther Foundation was convicted, too? I just checked all of the cited sources and I couldn't find where any of them said that the Luther Foundation was also convicted. In fact, I only saw the phrase "Luther Foundation" in two of the articles ([https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder The Guardian] and [https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/ Christianity Today]). --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:03, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
:Resolved. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:01, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
== Minor revision requested ==
@[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] The article's lead section is required to state when the focal point event took place (calendar day, day of the week, ect.). Can you add that in real quick? I would add it myself but I intend to review this article. Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:31, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
:March 26, 2026 Alliance Defending Freedom International
:@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:35, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
::Claude AI helped me. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:35, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
:::Can you add to the article that the ruling happened on Thursday so I don't have to? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:48, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]]. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:03, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
== Might want to read this ==
The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet. Alliance Defending Freedom International
@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:37, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
:https://claude.ai/chat/aa894899-c1f6-4236-964a-f90a3f25a23b Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:44, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
::What is this? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:47, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
:::The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet.I asked Claude and this is what was said about the headline.
:::The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet.
:::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], thanks. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:52, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
:The actual charge, actual crime, and actual conviction are all under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} that concerns {{w|crimes against humanity}}. Any {{w|Artificial intelligence}}, {{w|chatbot}}, {{w|generative AI}}, {{w|large language model}} can be incorrect about the facts, which is why it is necessary to manually verify. Thank for your involvement nonetheless, @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]]. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:02, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
== More headline problems ==
The headline now says, "Supreme Court of Finland makes crimes against the humanity convictions in landmark ruling". This doesn't sound like idiomatic English. The commonly used phrase is "crimes against humanity", not "crimes against the humanity", at least in this context (note that it no longer says "crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians"). Also, the phrase that a court "makes [name of crime] convictions" is awkward. I wouldn't write that a court "makes murder convictions", "makes kidnapping convictions", etc.; I would write that a court "convicts [someone] of murder", "convicts [someone] of kidnapping", etc. Or in this case, the Supreme Court of Finland convicts [the specified defendants] of crimes against humanity, although several versions of the headline has gone back and forth as to whether to refer to them by name, as politicians, or as Christians. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 02:57, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
:I agree that it is too vague to simply say that the Supreme Court of Finland made convictions. It should say against Christians, rather than by name or politicians, because there are four defendants, of whom two are individuals and of whom only one is politician and the other is a bishop, and the other two defendants are institutions, and the only thing that they have in common is that they are all Christian. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:34, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
== Way too many sources ==
I'm sorry but its just going to take me way too long to review this given that there are like ten sources used in the article and I don't even know if all of them are required to verify the info, I am very overwhelmed at this point, other editors have been moaning and bitching about the way I review articles, and the WMF is now officially closing Wikinews next month so there's no point in finishing this anyway. You can try and see if someone else can review this, but given the way things have been going here the last six months I would not bank on it, man. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 12:41, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
:I used a significant amount of sources just to be sure, because this is my very first ever Wikinews article! I really appreciate your edits and your work! Could you try and see this through to the end? I really put in a lot of work into this article and would really like to see it published! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 22:51, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
::@[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]], come join my news wiki. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
::https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, I will try. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:02, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
== Review of revision 5003204 [Not ready] ==
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== Note to reviewer(s) ==
Hello,
I edited the text to remove one sentence that was vague and created bias ( is consistently ranked at or near the top of various indices of freedom and democracy, and is therefore broadly considered to be a model liberal democracy.) this sentence may be re-added if details is included.
I re-ordered for inverted pyramid
I re-worded for past tense
I added clarifications where possible to avoid bias and make the article more neutral
and I submitted it for review. Hope this is helpful. Newsworthiness is an issue and I hope it can be passed with exception as articles were not published for a while.
Please also note I posted a section [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Proposal_to_cease_publishing_after_around_April_14 here]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:16, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
== Review of revision 5005122 [Not ready] ==
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Overall as a piece of feedback, it is necessary to be more factual and as much as possible insert facts rather than qualitative characterizations. I believe this has substantially improved in the last few days as the article has been revised. Thank you.
I have read the talk page and I believe the concerns there have been satisfactorily addressed in the recent edits and in the resulting current revision.
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I am recommending to add a sentence about expected consequence (fine, jail time) or if it is unknown then, when is this expected to be determined. If you could please make this change within 24 hours, then it could be sighted and be included in the report.
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-- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:33, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
: I find the publication of this article problematic. I agree with @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] above regarding the headline as well as our use of the term 'crimes against humanity.'<br> There is not adequate, independent support to state that anyone has been found guilty "of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians." The available reporting does not support that characterization.<br> Reuters stated the conviction was for ''incitement'':<blockquote>The court found Paivi Rasanen, a medical doctor and MP for the small Christian Democratic party since 1995, guilty of incitement against a group by claiming in a social media post in 2019 and on her website in 2020 that it was scientifically proven that homosexuality was a developmental disorder.</blockquote>Machine translation of the [https://korkeinoikeus.fi/fi/index/ennakkopaatokset/kko202627.html Supreme Court's release] states the following:<blockquote>A is charged with incitement against a group of people between November 4, 2019 and January 24, 2022 (count 1), for which he is sentenced to a 20-day fine.<br> B is charged with incitement against a group of people between November 4, 2019 and January 24, 2022 (count 2), for which he is sentenced to a 20-day fine.<br> The X Foundation is sentenced to a corporate fine of 5,000 euros.</blockquote>Both the reporting and the court’s own release describe the offense as incitement against a group. I do not see support for describing the conviction as 'crimes against humanity,' and that appears to be a mischaracterization of the ruling.<br> While one listed source uses that phrasing, it originates from Christian Institute. That phrasing appears in the headline, while the body of the article instead states: ''"This offence is listed under a chapter of criminal code entitled “war crimes and crimes against humanity”.'' This reflects a description of the structure of the criminal code rather than the charge or conviction itself, and does not support the wording used in the article.<br> Similarly, Christian Institute is a perspective-driven publication and does not provide the level of independent, objective reporting needed to support such a claim.<br> Given that higher-quality, independent sources consistently describe the offense as incitement, I do not see a basis for retaining the current wording.<br> @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], as the publishing reviewer, what steps will be taken to correct this?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]</sub>) 11:57, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
::Do you believe a retraction is imminent? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:22, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
::: I have not conducted a full review of the article. My concerns are currently limited to the use of "crimes against humanity."
::: I have reviewed the Supreme Court’s release, which describes the conviction as incitement against a group. That characterization is consistent with independent reporting and does not appear to support describing the conviction itself as "crimes against humanity."
::: Given that, it would be helpful for others to take a closer look at the article more broadly to determine whether additional issues are present and whether this is a matter for correction or something more substantial.
::: @Lofi Gurl, given your earlier review comments, your perspective would be helpful.
::: I also have concerns about whether some of the framing—particularly in [[#Headline|the discussion below]]—may be introducing characterization not clearly supported by sources.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]</sub>) 21:35, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
::::Hi, I have been arguing against framing this as "convicting Christians of crimes against the humanity of gays" since the beginning, where I evoked [[Wikinews:NPOV]]. This framing is not necessary or essential for the article, I don't understand why this is is being brought up again. Imagine if the defendants in question were Jews or Muslims and we ran with that same headline. How do you think that would go? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:43, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
::::: The article continues to describe the convictions as “crimes against humanity” in several places:
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:::::* "...the Supreme Court of Finland convicted...of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians..."
:::::* "The defendants were convicted under the section of the Criminal Code of Finland concerning crimes against humanity..."
:::::* "The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of freedom of speech and freedom of religion with hate speech and crimes against humanity..."
:::::* "...other portions dehumanised gays and lesbians on the basis of their sexual orientation, constituting crimes against humanity..."
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::::: These statements do not reflect how the conviction is described in the Supreme Court’s release or in independent reporting, which characterize the offense as incitement against a group. The references to “crimes against humanity” appear to derive from the structure of the criminal code rather than the nature of the conviction itself.
::::: As a journalism project, we are required to ensure that our reporting accurately reflects what sources state. In this case, describing the convictions as “crimes against humanity” is not supported by the available sources and should be corrected.
::::: {{tq|I don't understand why this is is being brought up again.}}
::::: This is being raised because the current wording does not align with how the conviction is described in the sources, and accuracy in that regard is a core requirement.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]</sub>) 05:35, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
== Headline ==
As [[#More headline problems|previously noted by both]] @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] and myself, the headline is simply too vague if it does not note the specific sort of defendants convicted by the Supreme Court and as also [[#c-Justthefacts-20260330203400-Metropolitan90-20260330025700|previously noted by myself]], the title should note that Supreme Court convicted Christians, because there are four defendants, of whom two are individuals and of whom only one is politician and the other is a bishop, and the other two defendants are institutions, and the only thing that they have in common is that they are all Christian. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:41, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
: If reputable, independent sources explicitly characterize the defendants in that way, we can reflect that with proper attribution. Otherwise, grouping them under a shared identity constitutes editorial analysis, which is not appropriate under [[WN:NPOV]]. The headline should follow how the conviction is described in sources, not introduce a characterization that is not clearly supported.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]</sub>) 21:12, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
::From what I can tell, the language in the sources did not describe the defendants that way. They moreso just specifically named their political positions and the organizations they were involved with. Hold my beer. I have an idea. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:46, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
:::Hi, I changed the headline to reflect what the sources said the defendents were actually convicted of. @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] please do not move the page back to characterize the defendents as simply "Christians", because that framing creates a [[Wikinews:NPOV]] problems that are not in line with our policies. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:51, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
::::The problem with the new headline is that only one of the four defendants was the author. Another defendant was the editor. The remaining two defendants were the publishers. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 17:47, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
::::The altered headline is also still problematic as only two of the four defendants were people while the remaining two were institutions. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
:::::[[Supreme Court of Finland convicts those involved in writing and publishing pamplet for inciting hatred towards homosexuals]] ? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:56, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
:::::We're not changing the headline again. The article has been published for days now. The project is closing. I'm sick and tired of this story. Let's just move on. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:34, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
:::::We are not changing the article to soley blame Christians for this. I don't give z shit if two of the defendants were institutions. The NPOV problems that would be introduced by changing the article to blame Christians for this would be waaaaaay worse than the problems you are mentioning. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:53, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
:::::We literally had to break project policy just to get this published. Please just let it go [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:59, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
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== Headline question ==
I questioned the use of the term "crimes against humanity" in the headline and lead paragraph based on the following:
:I would note that one of the cited sources, [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder this article from The Guardian], begins with the sentence, "A Finnish member of parliament has been found guilty by the country’s supreme court of inciting hatred after claiming that homosexuality was a 'developmental disorder', in a conviction that prompted criticism from far-right government ministers." That source doesn't even mention the term "crimes against humanity" at all. Another cited article from [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paivi-rasanen-homosexuality-supreme-court-finland-b2946208.html The Independent] doesn't mention "crimes against humanity", either. I am also concerned that the use of the term "{{w|crimes against humanity}}" may be considered misleading as to the nature of the charges involved notwithstanding how the term is used in the Finnish Criminal Code which few English Wikinews readers may be familiar with.
[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:16, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
:Hello, Metropolitan90! [[User_talk:Metropolitan90#c-Justthefacts-20260328005600-Regarding your move of my article|As I also noted in a message to you on your user talk page]], the actual charge, the actual crime, and the actual conviction all fall under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} that concerns {{w|crimes against humanity}}. Moreover, there is a particular focus from several sources on the fact that Räsänen and Pohjola were convicted under the section of the Criminal Code of Finland that concerns crimes against humanity. If there are any ambiguities at all, all will be resolved when readers read the article itself. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 01:37, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
::Two of the cited sources ([https://www.christiantoday.com/news/landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-politician-s-bible-tweet-case Christian Today], [https://adfinternational.org/news/breaking-landmark-ruling-expected-in-finnish-bible-tweet-case-tomorrow ADF International]) both say that Rasanen was convicted under a section titled “war crimes and crimes against humanity”, but I hope we're not going to change the headline to say that Rasanen and Pohjola were convicted of war crimes, too. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:57, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
:::The section specifically concerns crimes against humanity and courts determine the severity of the crimes against humanity that were committed, which can range from simply dehumanising a minority to genocide and war crimes. The section of the criminal code of Finland is based on the expertise and scholarship of experts and scholars of crimes against humanity who hold that crimes against humanity begin relatively simple in the form of simply dehumanising minorities and continue escalating until eventually genocide and war crimes. This landmark ruling is precisely regarded as such because it considers that even the most simplest form, dehumanising a minority, does indeed constitute a crime against humanity in and of itself. --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 02:04, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
==Luther Foundation==
Where does it say that the Luther Foundation was convicted, too? I just checked all of the cited sources and I couldn't find where any of them said that the Luther Foundation was also convicted. In fact, I only saw the phrase "Luther Foundation" in two of the articles ([https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/26/finnish-mp-paivi-rasanen-convicted-homosexuality-developmental-disorder The Guardian] and [https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/03/finnish-parlimentarian-paivi-rasanen-christian-hate-speech/ Christianity Today]). --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:03, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
:Resolved. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:01, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
== Minor revision requested ==
@[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] The article's lead section is required to state when the focal point event took place (calendar day, day of the week, ect.). Can you add that in real quick? I would add it myself but I intend to review this article. Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:31, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
:March 26, 2026 Alliance Defending Freedom International
:@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:35, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
::Claude AI helped me. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:35, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
:::Can you add to the article that the ruling happened on Thursday so I don't have to? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:48, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]]. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:03, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
== Might want to read this ==
The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet. Alliance Defending Freedom International
@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:37, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
:https://claude.ai/chat/aa894899-c1f6-4236-964a-f90a3f25a23b Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:44, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
::What is this? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:47, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
:::The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet.I asked Claude and this is what was said about the headline.
:::The '''headline''' you referenced is a somewhat sensationalized framing of the case, but here's what actually happened: In a narrow 3–2 decision, the Finnish Supreme Court found parliamentarian Päivi Räsänen guilty of "hate speech" related to the expression of her beliefs on marriage and sexual ethics in a 2004 church pamphlet.
:::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], thanks. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 00:52, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
:The actual charge, actual crime, and actual conviction are all under the section of the {{w|Criminal Code of Finland}} that concerns {{w|crimes against humanity}}. Any {{w|Artificial intelligence}}, {{w|chatbot}}, {{w|generative AI}}, {{w|large language model}} can be incorrect about the facts, which is why it is necessary to manually verify. Thank for your involvement nonetheless, @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]]. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 18:02, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
== More headline problems ==
The headline now says, "Supreme Court of Finland makes crimes against the humanity convictions in landmark ruling". This doesn't sound like idiomatic English. The commonly used phrase is "crimes against humanity", not "crimes against the humanity", at least in this context (note that it no longer says "crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians"). Also, the phrase that a court "makes [name of crime] convictions" is awkward. I wouldn't write that a court "makes murder convictions", "makes kidnapping convictions", etc.; I would write that a court "convicts [someone] of murder", "convicts [someone] of kidnapping", etc. Or in this case, the Supreme Court of Finland convicts [the specified defendants] of crimes against humanity, although several versions of the headline has gone back and forth as to whether to refer to them by name, as politicians, or as Christians. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 02:57, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
:I agree that it is too vague to simply say that the Supreme Court of Finland made convictions. It should say against Christians, rather than by name or politicians, because there are four defendants, of whom two are individuals and of whom only one is politician and the other is a bishop, and the other two defendants are institutions, and the only thing that they have in common is that they are all Christian. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:34, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
== Way too many sources ==
I'm sorry but its just going to take me way too long to review this given that there are like ten sources used in the article and I don't even know if all of them are required to verify the info, I am very overwhelmed at this point, other editors have been moaning and bitching about the way I review articles, and the WMF is now officially closing Wikinews next month so there's no point in finishing this anyway. You can try and see if someone else can review this, but given the way things have been going here the last six months I would not bank on it, man. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 12:41, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
:I used a significant amount of sources just to be sure, because this is my very first ever Wikinews article! I really appreciate your edits and your work! Could you try and see this through to the end? I really put in a lot of work into this article and would really like to see it published! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 22:51, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
::@[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]], come join my news wiki. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
::https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, I will try. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:02, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
== Review of revision 5003204 [Not ready] ==
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== Note to reviewer(s) ==
Hello,
I edited the text to remove one sentence that was vague and created bias ( is consistently ranked at or near the top of various indices of freedom and democracy, and is therefore broadly considered to be a model liberal democracy.) this sentence may be re-added if details is included.
I re-ordered for inverted pyramid
I re-worded for past tense
I added clarifications where possible to avoid bias and make the article more neutral
and I submitted it for review. Hope this is helpful. Newsworthiness is an issue and I hope it can be passed with exception as articles were not published for a while.
Please also note I posted a section [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Proposal_to_cease_publishing_after_around_April_14 here]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:16, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
== Review of revision 5005122 [Not ready] ==
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== Review of revision 5005210 [Passed] ==
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| comments = News is over a week old but I am publishing. The headline could be better but there is so much controversy about how to put it properly that I am content with the current revision.
Overall as a piece of feedback, it is necessary to be more factual and as much as possible insert facts rather than qualitative characterizations. I believe this has substantially improved in the last few days as the article has been revised. Thank you.
I have read the talk page and I believe the concerns there have been satisfactorily addressed in the recent edits and in the resulting current revision.
Copyright check passed flagging only the quote(s) included in the text.
I am recommending to add a sentence about expected consequence (fine, jail time) or if it is unknown then, when is this expected to be determined. If you could please make this change within 24 hours, then it could be sighted and be included in the report.
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-- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:33, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
: I find the publication of this article problematic. I agree with @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] above regarding the headline as well as our use of the term 'crimes against humanity.'<br> There is not adequate, independent support to state that anyone has been found guilty "of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians." The available reporting does not support that characterization.<br> Reuters stated the conviction was for ''incitement'':<blockquote>The court found Paivi Rasanen, a medical doctor and MP for the small Christian Democratic party since 1995, guilty of incitement against a group by claiming in a social media post in 2019 and on her website in 2020 that it was scientifically proven that homosexuality was a developmental disorder.</blockquote>Machine translation of the [https://korkeinoikeus.fi/fi/index/ennakkopaatokset/kko202627.html Supreme Court's release] states the following:<blockquote>A is charged with incitement against a group of people between November 4, 2019 and January 24, 2022 (count 1), for which he is sentenced to a 20-day fine.<br> B is charged with incitement against a group of people between November 4, 2019 and January 24, 2022 (count 2), for which he is sentenced to a 20-day fine.<br> The X Foundation is sentenced to a corporate fine of 5,000 euros.</blockquote>Both the reporting and the court’s own release describe the offense as incitement against a group. I do not see support for describing the conviction as 'crimes against humanity,' and that appears to be a mischaracterization of the ruling.<br> While one listed source uses that phrasing, it originates from Christian Institute. That phrasing appears in the headline, while the body of the article instead states: ''"This offence is listed under a chapter of criminal code entitled “war crimes and crimes against humanity”.'' This reflects a description of the structure of the criminal code rather than the charge or conviction itself, and does not support the wording used in the article.<br> Similarly, Christian Institute is a perspective-driven publication and does not provide the level of independent, objective reporting needed to support such a claim.<br> Given that higher-quality, independent sources consistently describe the offense as incitement, I do not see a basis for retaining the current wording.<br> @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], as the publishing reviewer, what steps will be taken to correct this?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]</sub>) 11:57, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
::Do you believe a retraction is imminent? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:22, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
::: I have not conducted a full review of the article. My concerns are currently limited to the use of "crimes against humanity."
::: I have reviewed the Supreme Court’s release, which describes the conviction as incitement against a group. That characterization is consistent with independent reporting and does not appear to support describing the conviction itself as "crimes against humanity."
::: Given that, it would be helpful for others to take a closer look at the article more broadly to determine whether additional issues are present and whether this is a matter for correction or something more substantial.
::: @Lofi Gurl, given your earlier review comments, your perspective would be helpful.
::: I also have concerns about whether some of the framing—particularly in [[#Headline|the discussion below]]—may be introducing characterization not clearly supported by sources.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]</sub>) 21:35, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
::::Hi, I have been arguing against framing this as "convicting Christians of crimes against the humanity of gays" since the beginning, where I evoked [[Wikinews:NPOV]]. This framing is not necessary or essential for the article, I don't understand why this is is being brought up again. Imagine if the defendants in question were Jews or Muslims and we ran with that same headline. How do you think that would go? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:43, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
::::: The article continues to describe the convictions as “crimes against humanity” in several places:
:::::
:::::* "...the Supreme Court of Finland convicted...of crimes against the humanity of gays and lesbians..."
:::::* "The defendants were convicted under the section of the Criminal Code of Finland concerning crimes against humanity..."
:::::* "The decision was a significant precedent with implications for future rulings pertaining to the legal intersection of freedom of speech and freedom of religion with hate speech and crimes against humanity..."
:::::* "...other portions dehumanised gays and lesbians on the basis of their sexual orientation, constituting crimes against humanity..."
:::::
::::: These statements do not reflect how the conviction is described in the Supreme Court’s release or in independent reporting, which characterize the offense as incitement against a group. The references to “crimes against humanity” appear to derive from the structure of the criminal code rather than the nature of the conviction itself.
::::: As a journalism project, we are required to ensure that our reporting accurately reflects what sources state. In this case, describing the convictions as “crimes against humanity” is not supported by the available sources and should be corrected.
::::: {{tq|I don't understand why this is is being brought up again.}}
::::: This is being raised because the current wording does not align with how the conviction is described in the sources, and accuracy in that regard is a core requirement.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]</sub>) 05:35, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
== Headline ==
As [[#More headline problems|previously noted by both]] @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] and myself, the headline is simply too vague if it does not note the specific sort of defendants convicted by the Supreme Court and as also [[#c-Justthefacts-20260330203400-Metropolitan90-20260330025700|previously noted by myself]], the title should note that Supreme Court convicted Christians, because there are four defendants, of whom two are individuals and of whom only one is politician and the other is a bishop, and the other two defendants are institutions, and the only thing that they have in common is that they are all Christian. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 20:41, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
: If reputable, independent sources explicitly characterize the defendants in that way, we can reflect that with proper attribution. Otherwise, grouping them under a shared identity constitutes editorial analysis, which is not appropriate under [[WN:NPOV]]. The headline should follow how the conviction is described in sources, not introduce a characterization that is not clearly supported.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]</sub>) 21:12, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
::From what I can tell, the language in the sources did not describe the defendants that way. They moreso just specifically named their political positions and the organizations they were involved with. Hold my beer. I have an idea. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:46, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
:::Hi, I changed the headline to reflect what the sources said the defendents were actually convicted of. @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] please do not move the page back to characterize the defendents as simply "Christians", because that framing creates a [[Wikinews:NPOV]] problems that are not in line with our policies. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:51, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
::::The problem with the new headline is that only one of the four defendants was the author. Another defendant was the editor. The remaining two defendants were the publishers. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 17:47, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
::::The altered headline is also still problematic as only two of the four defendants were people while the remaining two were institutions. [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 04:21, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
:::::[[Supreme Court of Finland convicts those involved in writing and publishing pamplet for inciting hatred towards homosexuals]] ? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:56, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
:::::We're not changing the headline again. The article has been published for days now. The project is closing. I'm sick and tired of this story. Let's just move on. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:34, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
:::::We are not changing the article to soley blame Christians for this. I don't give z shit if two of the defendants were institutions. The NPOV problems that would be introduced by changing the article to blame Christians for this would be waaaaaay worse than the problems you are mentioning. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:53, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
:::::We literally had to break project policy just to get this published. Please just let it go [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:59, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] I took all the collaborative concerns here into account and renamed the article accordingly! What do you think? --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 16:47, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
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