Wikinews enwikinews https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page MediaWiki 1.46.0-wmf.23 first-letter Media Special Talk User User talk Wikinews Wikinews talk File File talk MediaWiki MediaWiki talk Template Template talk Help Help talk Category Category talk Thread Thread talk Summary Summary talk Portal Portal talk Comments Comments talk TimedText TimedText talk Module Module talk Event Event talk Topic 4 1058 5007632 5007355 2026-04-13T15:25:07Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* Deletion requests */ unused hurricane season infobox 5007632 wikitext text/x-wiki {{xambox|type=serious|text=Do not list a page here if it meets the '''[[WN:Criteria for speedy deletion|speedy deletion criteria]]''' or the '''[[WN:PROD|proposed deletion criteria]]'''.|imageright={{shortcut|[[WN:DR]]<br/>[[WN:RFD]]}}}} {{DR Archives}} {{DP}} {{Content requests}} {{Wikinews:Deletion requests/Header}} __TOC__ = Deletion requests = <!--ADD deletion requests immediately below this line--> == April 13, 2026 == The following infobox uses DPL and is not used by any article. I propose it be deleted as unused: * [[Template:Hurricane 2023 Infobox]] Please vote using {{keep}} {{tl|keep}}, {{remove}} {{tl|remove}}, {{neutral}} {{tl|neutral}}, or {{comment}} {{tl|comment}} followed by signature. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:24, 13 April 2026 (UTC) == April 10, 2026 == === [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts individuals and institutions involved in writing and publishing pamphlet for inciting hatred against gays and lesbians]] === {{Ping|Gryllida|Lofi Gurl|Justthefacts|Loytra|Metropolitan90|BigKrow}} notifying article contributors for awareness only. Based on the issues identified below, I propose the article be retracted by blanking it and issuing a retraction statement. The article is not compliant with [[WN:NPOV]] due to significant issues with accuracy, attribution, and synthesis. The most serious issue is the mischaracterization of the offense, which undermines the reliability of the entire piece. Notably, the claim that the defendants were convicted of ''crimes against humanity'' was raised on the talk page prior to publication. Despite this, the publishing reviewer stated the concerns had been “satisfactorily addressed.” This is not reflected in the published article, which retained the incorrect characterization throughout. Later attempts to fix this were also ineffective; the headline was changed to “inciting hatred against gays and lesbians,” which is likewise incorrect, as the offense under Finnish law is ''incitement against a group''. This reflects a failure to resolve a known issue during review and after publication. Examples of issues include: * Incorrectly stating the defendants were convicted of ''crimes against humanity'' rather than the relevant offense under Finnish law (incitement against a group) * Presenting analysis as fact (e.g., claiming the ruling is a “significant precedent” without attribution) * Using un-attributed evaluative language such as “false claims” and “global scientific consensus” * Framing legal and societal implications in a broad, interpretive manner without sourcing * Internal inconsistency between the stated offense and the described conduct and penalties There were also multiple unsighted changes, including headline moves. Due to a limitation in FlaggedRevs, page moves cannot be selectively rejected, which leads to inconsistent outcomes when reviewing mixed edits. In approving the moves, unrelated changes were also approved. These should have been rejected, as approving such changes post-publication is not standard practice and does not comply with policy. Numerous post-publication edits attempted to correct the article, including multiple headline changes. The core issue—mischaracterization of the offense—remained unresolved, indicating a structural problem rather than an isolated error. Correction is therefore not feasible, and retraction is the more appropriate course of action. Additionally, the article was explicitly published stale, contrary to [[WN:Freshness]], and was not included among the Main Page lead articles. It has received minimal readership (<del>37</del> <ins>1,000</ins> page views since publication[https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikinews.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2026-04-01&end=2026-04-09&pages=Supreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_authors_of_pamplet_for_inciting_hatred_towards_homosexuals%7CSupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_authors_of_pamplet_characterizing_homosexuality_as_a_disease%7CSupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_Christians_of_crimes_against_humanity_in_landmark_ruling%7CSupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_religious_leaders_of_inciting_crimes_against_humanity%7CSupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_Christians_of_crimes_against_the_humanity_of_gays_and_lesbians_in_a_landmark_ruling%7CSupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_individuals_and_institutions_involved_in_writing_and_publishing_pamphlet_for_inciting_hatred_against_gays_and_lesbians]), further supporting retraction as a low-impact corrective measure. Proposed retraction statement: <blockquote>This article has been retracted due to significant inaccuracies and failure to comply with Wikinews neutrality and verification standards. The article mischaracterized the nature of the convictions described, including incorrectly stating that the defendants were found guilty of ''crimes against humanity''. Additional issues included un-attributed analysis presented as fact and unsupported interpretive claims. Due to the extent of these issues, the article does not meet the standards required for publication and has been withdrawn in its entirety.</blockquote> Please vote using {{keep}} {{tl|keep}}, {{remove}} {{tl|remove}}, {{neutral}} {{tl|neutral}}, or {{comment}} {{tl|comment}} followed by signature. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:51, 10 April 2026 (UTC) :{{remove}} I kind of knew this was inevitable. But for what its worth, the 37 page views only apply to the most recent page move. The article has been read more than that. But I support retraction due to the fact that the project's policies were pretty blatantly ignored with the article's pibublication in its current state. Sorry to author @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] but this is probably going to be removed from the site. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:32, 10 April 2026 (UTC) :: I stand corrected. There have been a combined 1,000 pageviews of the various (six!) headlines the article has used since being published.[https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikinews.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2026-04-01&end=2026-04-09&pages=Supreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_authors_of_pamplet_for_inciting_hatred_towards_homosexuals%7CSupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_authors_of_pamplet_characterizing_homosexuality_as_a_disease%7CSupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_Christians_of_crimes_against_humanity_in_landmark_ruling%7CSupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_religious_leaders_of_inciting_crimes_against_humanity%7CSupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_Christians_of_crimes_against_the_humanity_of_gays_and_lesbians_in_a_landmark_ruling%7CSupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_individuals_and_institutions_involved_in_writing_and_publishing_pamphlet_for_inciting_hatred_against_gays_and_lesbians][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:47, 10 April 2026 (UTC) :{{keep}} @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] If you could please remove the page protection from the article, I can address the issues that you brought up! Thank you in advance! --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 23:25, 10 April 2026 (UTC) ::It's far too late in the game to make such substantial corrections to the article. The content is stale and the article's publication was questionable at best. It's technically not even a news story anymore. We've already issued the retraction, I assure you any attempts to save this article will go nowhere. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:01, 11 April 2026 (UTC) EDIT: @[[User:BigKrow|Don]] please break this tie. Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:42, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :{{keep}} and issue a correction with article edits as needed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:18, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::::This will require substantial revisions to the article five days after its publication and will further damage the project's reputation. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 12:56, 11 April 2026 (UTC) : {{remove}} I would agree with @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[#c-Lofi_Gurl-20260411125600-Gryllida-20260411051800|above]]. The article is already quite problematic and the edits required to correct it are substantial. [[WN:Archive]] permits changes to correct inaccuracies, but not neutrality. : As one of our final published articles, it would be unfortunate if it did not reflect the standard of quality we aimed to maintain.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:28, 11 April 2026 (UTC) == February 1, 2026 == === [[Turkish military transport plane crashes near Georgia border, 20 dead]] === {{Ping|New mayo|Metropolitan90|Wikiwide|Gryllida}} notifying article contributors for awareness only. I propose this article be retracted due to multiple failures to comply with [[WN:Plagiarism]] (proposed guideline), [[WN:CS]] (policy), [[WN:NPOV]] (policy), and [[WN:MOS]] (guideline). Taken together, these issues are sufficiently extensive that post-publication correction is not practical. These problems were identified during the archival process. In light of [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#c-Gryllida-20260111133600-Tduk-20260110041300|the reviewer’s previously stated position]] regarding the scope of their reviews, this case raises concerns about whether the review performed met the expectations outlined in policy. The following statement <del>is</del> <ins>was</ins> [[WN:Plagiarism|plagiarism]]. It is not detected by Earwig, which I believe will not scan ''Reuters'' due to their Robots.txt directive. The text can be found by a manual search. It could be fixed even post-archive if it was the only issue. <ins>This statement was removed and a note placed on the article.[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Turkish_military_transport_plane_crashes_near_Georgia_border,_20_dead&diff=prev&oldid=4981005]</ins> * "57 years old and had entered the Turkish Air Force in 2010." The following statements are unsupported by the listed sources, but verifiable elsewhere: * tail number 68-1609 [https://aeropeep.com/turkish-air-force-c130-6801609-crash-latest-findings/ verifiable] * departed at 14:19 [https://aeropeep.com/turkish-air-force-c130-6801609-crash-latest-findings/ verifiable] The following statements are unsupported by the listed sources: * "that has been compared by ''[[Reuters]]''" Reuters didn't compare the two, only mentioned it as background. * "seen with a smoking engine descending in a flat spin" ''Reuters'' reports eyewitness accounts of fire, not smoke * "vanished from radars 27 minutes later" Author's analysis maybe? * "27 minutes after takeoff" Author's analysis maybe? * "According to Georgian authorities and Turkish officials" * "by November 13" * "By November 14, Turkish and Georgian officials continued joint inquiries." * "and support" NATO Secretary General expressed ''his'' condolences. No source supports the statement that ''NATO'' offered support or expressed condolences. The following are style guide issues: * "The cause of the crash remains under investigation" (present tense) * "but investigations are ongoing..." (present tense) * "Georgian authorities confirmed the wreckage was found near the border region." exact same sentence in lede, not an SG issue per-se, but should have been caught Attribution: There are too many phrases to include here. Below are a few examples: * "killing all 20 military personnel on board" * "vanished from radars 27 minutes later" * "the wreckage was found near the border region" * "all soldiers were killed" * "communication was lost" * "the remains of the military personnel ... were recovered by November 13" * "the flight recorder (black box) was recovered" * "the cause of the crash remains under investigation" * "the cause of the crash remains undetermined" Please vote using {{keep}}, {{remove}}, {{neutral}}, or {{comment}} followed by signature. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:10, 1 February 2026 (UTC) ==== Comments and Votes ==== *{{keep}} My note is that the proposed level of scrutiny is too high. Articles written at the site are going to inevitably have issues and not be perfect if someone puts a few hours to check each letter. I do not see any of the above issues sufficiently major to require a retraction. If there is something that actually '''misinforms the reader about what happened''', then it may be included in a correction. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:07, 1 February 2026 (UTC) *: Wikinews [[Wikinews:Archive conventions|archival policy]] limits post-publication changes to narrowly scoped factual corrections with documentation. The issues raised in this proposal extend beyond isolated factual errors and include attribution, sourcing, and structural compliance problems, which are not ordinarily addressed through post-archival edits. This is why retraction is being proposed rather than incremental correction.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:05, 2 February 2026 (UTC) *{{keep}}{{neutral}}{{comment}} While on the first glance I couldn't find "smok" in the text of the sources, I haven't re-read them yet. Both Al-Jazeera and Independent clearly show, in video and photograph, that the falling airplane emitted plenty of smoke even before crashing into the ground; whether it was smoking engine, smoking wing, or smoking door, I cannot say right now, I am not an airplane expert, but it was not a cigarette. I don't like the idea of removing a piece of text just because it is plagiarism; re-phrasing would be preferable, so that information would not be lost. If Reuters has such a hostile robots.txt, then some tool, Earwig or whatever else, should alert the contributors against usage of such sources - forcing humans to do Earwig job manually is not sustainable. As it is, I cannot be certain that your points about lack of attribution are valid - information had to have come from somewhere, it just needs to be found where it came from. Will re-read later. [[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] ([[User talk:Wikiwide|talk]]) 23:25, 1 February 2026 (UTC) *: To clarify; the video and photographs showing smoke are of the Turkish C-130 crash itself. However, the “smoking engine descending in a flat spin” description originates from Reuters’ background reference to a separate, 2017 US Marine Corps KC-130 accident, not from reporting on this incident. :: Even if the smoking engine statement was about the Turkish crash, for which there is video, Wikinews policy does not permit editors to analyze or speculate. As stated in the neutrality policy, contributors must avoid analysis and speculative interpretation unless explicitly attributed to qualified sources. In this case, we have reporting that sufficiently describes the scene without our interpretation or analysis. The change was not necessary. :: Lastly, while the 'smoke' wording would be a minor issue in isolation, it reflects a broader pattern in this article involving unsupported claims, attribution gaps, and style guide issues that should have been fixed during pre-publication review. The retraction proposal is based on the cumulative impact of these issues rather than any single descriptive detail. :: The plagiarism has already been removed as a priority along with placing a reader-facing note for transparency.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:27, 2 February 2026 (UTC) * {{Remove}} (retract with statement and blanking article) There is precedent for retracting articles with fewer issues and also specifically for inadequate reviews. For example: : :* [[New cave opens to the public in Indiana]] Retracted for being published while stale :* [[North Korea launches "early-stage" hypersonic missile]] Retracted because reviewer added a source :* [[Wikinews interviews Chiaki Hayashi, Asian Projects Coordinator at Creative Commons]] Retracted due to poor interview process and for "'''inadequate and incompetent review of the article'''". : : I propose the following retraction statement: : <blockquote>This article has been retracted because a post-publication review identified multiple policy and guideline failures, including plagiarism, unsupported and misattributed statements, sourcing gaps, attribution problems, and style compliance issues. The cumulative scope of these problems made reliable post-publication correction impractical.<br>The last version of the article text can be found <span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:Turkish military transport plane crashes near Georgia border, 20 dead|&oldid=4981005}} here]</span>.</blockquote>[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:09, 4 February 2026 (UTC) == January 22, 2026 == === [[:Roblox player uncovers cheating, awarded Guinness World Record]] === State reason for deletion request and sign with [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:19, 22 January 2026 (UTC). Nomination again. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:19, 22 January 2026 (UTC) ==== Comments ==== nominating again with my evidence.{{unsigned|BigKrow}} : Please add the specific evidence supporting this deletion request. : Per [[WN:DG|deletion guidelines]] and [[Wikinews:Criteria_for_deletion#Cases_where_deletion_may_be_required]], deletion requests must clearly state the applicable criterion and the supporting rationale. : If no evidence or criterion is provided, the request cannot be evaluated and may be removed as procedurally invalid.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:20, 23 January 2026 (UTC) : This request does not cite any applicable deletion criteria or provide a supporting rationale, so it cannot be evaluated. It has now remained open beyond the recommended, seven-day period.<br>For reference, a consolidated list of related discussions is available on the [[Talk:Roblox player uncovers cheating, awarded Guinness World Record#Related discussions|article talk page]].<br>As the reviewer of the article, I am noting my involvement for transparency. <del>Absent any objections, I intend to close this request on procedural grounds with no action taken.</del>[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:23, 7 February 2026 (UTC) ::This user is promoting story on other sources as well. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:40, 7 February 2026 (UTC) ==== Votes ==== {{remove}} {{unsigned|BigKrow}}[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Deletion_requests&diff=prev&oldid=4977214] {{abstain}} As the reviewer of the article, I am abstaining from voting. On further consideration regarding [[#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260207162300-Michael.C.Wright-20260123142000|my previous note re:closing on procedural grounds]], I will not close this request myself. An uninvolved administrator is invited to review and take any action necessary.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:23, 24 February 2026 (UTC) == September 11, 2025 == === [[Flash flooding, landslides in Pakistan leave hundreds dead]] === {{flag}} This is a proposed retraction of a published article. As stated on the article talk page: the article contains no attribution, meaning every statement is presented in Wikivoice, asserted by Wikinews. Additionally, several key statements are unsupported by the sources provided (emphasis added): * "Survivors described the floods as '''sudden and catastrophic'''..." * "The scale of destruction was '''unprecedented'''..." * "...with '''dozens of villages''' damaged or flattened..." * "The recent flash floods in Pakistan amid heavy monsoon rains have caused '''one of the deadliest natural disasters in the region'''..." * "...amid '''worsening''' weather conditions..." The review summary noted that the last paragraph was “probably AI generated and needs some revision to reduce bias and make it more factual,” meaning the bias was recognized at the time of publication. A 12-hour window was provided for revisions, but the issues were not addressed. Since the article still contains unsupported statements and lacks attribution, and more than 24 hours have passed, the problems cannot be corrected without a substantial rewrite, which [[WN:ARCHIVE]] prohibits. Therefore, a correction statement is insufficient; the article should be fully retracted, with its content blanked and replaced by a retraction notice. As stated by the original author, the article was mostly written by AI. According to [[WN:AI]] (a proposed guideline), "Wikinews articles must always reflect human-reviewed accuracy, neutrality, and verification of sources." Given the issues with [[WN:NPOV]], [[WN:Source]], and [[WN:AI]], I propose this article be retracted. ==== Comments ==== * {{comment}} If consensus is to remove the article, I propose the addition of the following retraction statement and a blanking of the article: <blockquote>This article has been retracted because it failed to comply with our [[WN:CS|sourcing policy]], [[WN:NPOV|neutrality policy]] and recommended guidance for AI/LLM use.<br>The last version of the article text can be found <span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:Environmental protest in Indonesia denounces Australia's plastic waste exports|&oldid=4878116}} here]</span>.</blockquote> ==== Votes ==== Please vote using {{keep}}, {{remove}}, {{neutral}}, or {{comment}} followed by signature {{neutral}}, [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:59, 11 September 2025 (UTC) : Could you share a bit more about your perspective? For example, do you see a preferred course of action besides retraction, or do you view the article differently than my assessment, or do you think a specific policy or guideline needs to be changed? Your thoughts could help shape consensus before the discussion closes.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:09, 12 September 2025 (UTC) ::I will vote per nom. Thanks @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 14:59, 12 September 2025 (UTC) :::I didnt get it. Why not do "correction" by removing biased words? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:44, 13 September 2025 (UTC) :::: [[WN:Archive]][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:48, 14 September 2025 (UTC) : {{remove}} Since this was "mostly" AI generated and includes several unsupported statements, I think we should retract the article. We need to ensure we are not allowing "AI Slop"[https://www.theverge.com/report/756810/wikipedia-ai-slop-policies-community-speedy-deletion] to creep into Wikinews.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:57, 24 September 2025 (UTC) : {{remove}}, we should not keep AI-generated articles. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 21:32, 17 November 2025 (UTC) ::Why though? @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:45, 17 November 2025 (UTC) :::It is prone to including errors and honestly, it's a more lazy way of writing that does not take much effort. We should focus on keeping quality articles only in my opinion. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 21:52, 17 November 2025 (UTC) ::::I love AI though maybe that makes me "lazy too". [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:01, 17 November 2025 (UTC) ::::: I think we can differentiate between AI-assisted and AI-generated. AI-assisted is permitted, even encouraged for some uses, as briefly discussed in [[Help:AI]]. ::::: AI-generated is frowned upon, discouraged, and in our proposed [[WN:AI]], forbidden.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:08, 18 November 2025 (UTC) ::<strike>{{remove}} per nomination</strike> [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2025-42360-72|&#126;2025-42360-72]] ([[User talk:&#126;2025-42360-72|talk]]) 23:55, 21 December 2025 (UTC) :::I have stricken the vote from the above temp. account. It was only active for seven days in December, 2025 and was likely a vandal, though never blocked. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 00:12, 11 March 2026 (UTC) : This request has been open for several months and participation has been limited. <br>If anyone has additional views on the appropriate resolution—whether correction <br>or retraction—please add them. : Otherwise, the discussion may be ready for closure.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 00:18, 11 March 2026 (UTC) ::1. I am {{weak oppose}} to deletion, because event was occurred and there is a proposal to salvage article as shown below. ::2. Suggest reword 2nd and 3rd para as one para as follows: ::"Dozens of villages were damaged or flattened. Emergency response efforts were in progress. Happening amid heavy monsoon rains, there were hundreds dead. Emergency authorities and communities faced challenges with rescue and recovery. The rain was ongoing at the time of the report as the government was continuing rescue operations." ::This goes to 102, barely above the word limit for an article. I tried to make it as neutral and unambiguous as possible. ::and add correction notice ::"In this article several statements about the extent and impact of the torrential rains were over exaggerated, and opinion was presented as fact, going against [[WN:NPOV|neutrality]] requirement. This has been corrected by removing opinionated pieces and shortening the text." ::Regaɾds, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:31, 11 March 2026 (UTC) ::: > ''Dozens of villages were damaged or flattened.'' ::: Which source supports that and how? ::: > ''Emergency authorities and communities faced challenges with rescue and recovery.'' ::: Who actually said this? It should be attributed. ::: > ''The rain was ongoing at the time of the report'' ::: Which source supports that and how?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:01, 11 March 2026 (UTC) ::::ok, cbs news wrote: ::::* One resident told AFP that the flash floods felt like "the end of the world" as the ground shook with the force of the water ::::article text can be: ::::* One of the survivors described the floods as catastrophic ::::cbd news wrote: ::::* "Mohammad Khan, 53, said the floods "came so fast that many could not leave their homes."" ::::article text can be ::::* one of the survivors described the floods as sudden ::::bbc source text was: ::::* In the Indian-administered part of Kashmir, rescuers pulled bodies from mud and rubble on Friday after a flood crashed through a Himalayan village, killing at least 60 people and washing away dozens more. ::::ai hallucinated as: ::::* Dozens of villages were damaged or flattened. ::::should be ::::* Pir Baba and Malik Pura villages were most hit by the heavy rains, with most fatalities reported in these areas. ::::re "Emergency authorities and communities faced challenges with rescue and recovery." could remove that part. ::::leaving with this thing to put for 2nd and 3rd para: ::::* CBS News reported some survivors describing floods as sudden or catastrophic. Emergency response efforts were in progress. Happening amid heavy monsoon rains, there were hundreds dead. CBS News also reported excessive rains being increasingly common in the India's Himalayan regions and Pakistan's northern areas, attributing them to climate change. ::::* Correction text: ::::** In this article several statements about the extent and impact of the torrential rains were over exaggerated, and opinion was presented as fact, going against [[WN:NPOV|neutrality]] requirement. This has been corrected by removing opinionated pieces and shortening the text. A passage was added to clarify the location and cause as required by [[WN:5W|5W]]. ::::This is kind of stretched out, because not supposed to expand article after it was published. I tried to do minimal additions to just barely meet the 100 words requirement. If this is an sisue, then, I think can ignore that rule and go with ::::* CBS News reported some survivors describing floods as sudden or catastrophic. Emergency response efforts were in progress. Happening amid heavy monsoon rains, there were hundreds dead. ::::* Correction text: ::::** In this article several statements about the extent and impact of the torrential rains were over exaggerated, and opinion was presented as fact, going against [[WN:NPOV|neutrality]] requirement. This has been corrected by removing opinionated pieces and shortening the text. The article became shorter than the required length, and was preserved for archival purposes. ::::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:00, 11 March 2026 (UTC) ::::: Which of the above reflects your intended proposal? Please implement the version you consider appropriate and leave the changes unsighted so they can be evaluated.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:44, 6 April 2026 (UTC) = Undeletion requests = <!--ADD undeletion requests below this line--> = Proposed deletions = {{shortcut|[[WN:ABAND]]}} {{PurgeButton|anchor=Proposed deletions}} For reference, it is currently {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}}. {{Wikinews:Deletion requests/proposed|}} rzxdjhjhdgxpccgnp3ktb784qin6b14 5007742 5007632 2026-04-13T18:21:32Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* April 13, 2026 */ propose deletion of [[Main Page 2]] 5007742 wikitext text/x-wiki {{xambox|type=serious|text=Do not list a page here if it meets the '''[[WN:Criteria for speedy deletion|speedy deletion criteria]]''' or the '''[[WN:PROD|proposed deletion criteria]]'''.|imageright={{shortcut|[[WN:DR]]<br/>[[WN:RFD]]}}}} {{DR Archives}} {{DP}} {{Content requests}} {{Wikinews:Deletion requests/Header}} __TOC__ = Deletion requests = <!--ADD deletion requests immediately below this line--> == April 13, 2026 == === [[Template:Hurricane 2023 Infobox]] === This infobox uses DPL and is not used by any article. I propose it be deleted as unused. Please vote using {{keep}} {{tl|keep}}, {{remove}} {{tl|remove}}, {{neutral}} {{tl|neutral}}, or {{comment}} {{tl|comment}} followed by signature. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:24, 13 April 2026 (UTC) === [[Main Page 2]] === This page was proposed in 2024 in response to a spike in activity and a desire to see more articles in 'lead' format (see [[Talk:Main Page#Idea:Temporary extra page]] and [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals/archives/2024/June#Proposal for second page of the Main Page]]). It was never officially deployed, and its presence may be misleading in the archive/read-only version of the project. Its talk page points to [[Talk:Main_Page]], which may further confuse its intended purpose. I propose it be deleted as unused. Please vote using {{keep}} {{tl|keep}}, {{remove}} {{tl|remove}}, {{neutral}} {{tl|neutral}}, or {{comment}} {{tl|comment}} followed by signature. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:21, 13 April 2026 (UTC) == April 10, 2026 == === [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts individuals and institutions involved in writing and publishing pamphlet for inciting hatred against gays and lesbians]] === {{Ping|Gryllida|Lofi Gurl|Justthefacts|Loytra|Metropolitan90|BigKrow}} notifying article contributors for awareness only. Based on the issues identified below, I propose the article be retracted by blanking it and issuing a retraction statement. The article is not compliant with [[WN:NPOV]] due to significant issues with accuracy, attribution, and synthesis. The most serious issue is the mischaracterization of the offense, which undermines the reliability of the entire piece. Notably, the claim that the defendants were convicted of ''crimes against humanity'' was raised on the talk page prior to publication. Despite this, the publishing reviewer stated the concerns had been “satisfactorily addressed.” This is not reflected in the published article, which retained the incorrect characterization throughout. Later attempts to fix this were also ineffective; the headline was changed to “inciting hatred against gays and lesbians,” which is likewise incorrect, as the offense under Finnish law is ''incitement against a group''. This reflects a failure to resolve a known issue during review and after publication. Examples of issues include: * Incorrectly stating the defendants were convicted of ''crimes against humanity'' rather than the relevant offense under Finnish law (incitement against a group) * Presenting analysis as fact (e.g., claiming the ruling is a “significant precedent” without attribution) * Using un-attributed evaluative language such as “false claims” and “global scientific consensus” * Framing legal and societal implications in a broad, interpretive manner without sourcing * Internal inconsistency between the stated offense and the described conduct and penalties There were also multiple unsighted changes, including headline moves. Due to a limitation in FlaggedRevs, page moves cannot be selectively rejected, which leads to inconsistent outcomes when reviewing mixed edits. In approving the moves, unrelated changes were also approved. These should have been rejected, as approving such changes post-publication is not standard practice and does not comply with policy. Numerous post-publication edits attempted to correct the article, including multiple headline changes. The core issue—mischaracterization of the offense—remained unresolved, indicating a structural problem rather than an isolated error. Correction is therefore not feasible, and retraction is the more appropriate course of action. Additionally, the article was explicitly published stale, contrary to [[WN:Freshness]], and was not included among the Main Page lead articles. It has received minimal readership (<del>37</del> <ins>1,000</ins> page views since publication[https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikinews.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2026-04-01&end=2026-04-09&pages=Supreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_authors_of_pamplet_for_inciting_hatred_towards_homosexuals%7CSupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_authors_of_pamplet_characterizing_homosexuality_as_a_disease%7CSupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_Christians_of_crimes_against_humanity_in_landmark_ruling%7CSupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_religious_leaders_of_inciting_crimes_against_humanity%7CSupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_Christians_of_crimes_against_the_humanity_of_gays_and_lesbians_in_a_landmark_ruling%7CSupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_individuals_and_institutions_involved_in_writing_and_publishing_pamphlet_for_inciting_hatred_against_gays_and_lesbians]), further supporting retraction as a low-impact corrective measure. Proposed retraction statement: <blockquote>This article has been retracted due to significant inaccuracies and failure to comply with Wikinews neutrality and verification standards. The article mischaracterized the nature of the convictions described, including incorrectly stating that the defendants were found guilty of ''crimes against humanity''. Additional issues included un-attributed analysis presented as fact and unsupported interpretive claims. Due to the extent of these issues, the article does not meet the standards required for publication and has been withdrawn in its entirety.</blockquote> Please vote using {{keep}} {{tl|keep}}, {{remove}} {{tl|remove}}, {{neutral}} {{tl|neutral}}, or {{comment}} {{tl|comment}} followed by signature. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:51, 10 April 2026 (UTC) :{{remove}} I kind of knew this was inevitable. But for what its worth, the 37 page views only apply to the most recent page move. The article has been read more than that. But I support retraction due to the fact that the project's policies were pretty blatantly ignored with the article's pibublication in its current state. Sorry to author @[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] but this is probably going to be removed from the site. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:32, 10 April 2026 (UTC) :: I stand corrected. There have been a combined 1,000 pageviews of the various (six!) headlines the article has used since being published.[https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikinews.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2026-04-01&end=2026-04-09&pages=Supreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_authors_of_pamplet_for_inciting_hatred_towards_homosexuals%7CSupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_authors_of_pamplet_characterizing_homosexuality_as_a_disease%7CSupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_Christians_of_crimes_against_humanity_in_landmark_ruling%7CSupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_religious_leaders_of_inciting_crimes_against_humanity%7CSupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_Christians_of_crimes_against_the_humanity_of_gays_and_lesbians_in_a_landmark_ruling%7CSupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_individuals_and_institutions_involved_in_writing_and_publishing_pamphlet_for_inciting_hatred_against_gays_and_lesbians][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:47, 10 April 2026 (UTC) :{{keep}} @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] If you could please remove the page protection from the article, I can address the issues that you brought up! Thank you in advance! --[[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 23:25, 10 April 2026 (UTC) ::It's far too late in the game to make such substantial corrections to the article. The content is stale and the article's publication was questionable at best. It's technically not even a news story anymore. We've already issued the retraction, I assure you any attempts to save this article will go nowhere. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:01, 11 April 2026 (UTC) EDIT: @[[User:BigKrow|Don]] please break this tie. Thanks. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 17:42, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :{{keep}} and issue a correction with article edits as needed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:18, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::::This will require substantial revisions to the article five days after its publication and will further damage the project's reputation. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 12:56, 11 April 2026 (UTC) : {{remove}} I would agree with @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] [[#c-Lofi_Gurl-20260411125600-Gryllida-20260411051800|above]]. The article is already quite problematic and the edits required to correct it are substantial. [[WN:Archive]] permits changes to correct inaccuracies, but not neutrality. : As one of our final published articles, it would be unfortunate if it did not reflect the standard of quality we aimed to maintain.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:28, 11 April 2026 (UTC) == February 1, 2026 == === [[Turkish military transport plane crashes near Georgia border, 20 dead]] === {{Ping|New mayo|Metropolitan90|Wikiwide|Gryllida}} notifying article contributors for awareness only. I propose this article be retracted due to multiple failures to comply with [[WN:Plagiarism]] (proposed guideline), [[WN:CS]] (policy), [[WN:NPOV]] (policy), and [[WN:MOS]] (guideline). Taken together, these issues are sufficiently extensive that post-publication correction is not practical. These problems were identified during the archival process. In light of [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#c-Gryllida-20260111133600-Tduk-20260110041300|the reviewer’s previously stated position]] regarding the scope of their reviews, this case raises concerns about whether the review performed met the expectations outlined in policy. The following statement <del>is</del> <ins>was</ins> [[WN:Plagiarism|plagiarism]]. It is not detected by Earwig, which I believe will not scan ''Reuters'' due to their Robots.txt directive. The text can be found by a manual search. It could be fixed even post-archive if it was the only issue. <ins>This statement was removed and a note placed on the article.[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Turkish_military_transport_plane_crashes_near_Georgia_border,_20_dead&diff=prev&oldid=4981005]</ins> * "57 years old and had entered the Turkish Air Force in 2010." The following statements are unsupported by the listed sources, but verifiable elsewhere: * tail number 68-1609 [https://aeropeep.com/turkish-air-force-c130-6801609-crash-latest-findings/ verifiable] * departed at 14:19 [https://aeropeep.com/turkish-air-force-c130-6801609-crash-latest-findings/ verifiable] The following statements are unsupported by the listed sources: * "that has been compared by ''[[Reuters]]''" Reuters didn't compare the two, only mentioned it as background. * "seen with a smoking engine descending in a flat spin" ''Reuters'' reports eyewitness accounts of fire, not smoke * "vanished from radars 27 minutes later" Author's analysis maybe? * "27 minutes after takeoff" Author's analysis maybe? * "According to Georgian authorities and Turkish officials" * "by November 13" * "By November 14, Turkish and Georgian officials continued joint inquiries." * "and support" NATO Secretary General expressed ''his'' condolences. No source supports the statement that ''NATO'' offered support or expressed condolences. The following are style guide issues: * "The cause of the crash remains under investigation" (present tense) * "but investigations are ongoing..." (present tense) * "Georgian authorities confirmed the wreckage was found near the border region." exact same sentence in lede, not an SG issue per-se, but should have been caught Attribution: There are too many phrases to include here. Below are a few examples: * "killing all 20 military personnel on board" * "vanished from radars 27 minutes later" * "the wreckage was found near the border region" * "all soldiers were killed" * "communication was lost" * "the remains of the military personnel ... were recovered by November 13" * "the flight recorder (black box) was recovered" * "the cause of the crash remains under investigation" * "the cause of the crash remains undetermined" Please vote using {{keep}}, {{remove}}, {{neutral}}, or {{comment}} followed by signature. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:10, 1 February 2026 (UTC) ==== Comments and Votes ==== *{{keep}} My note is that the proposed level of scrutiny is too high. Articles written at the site are going to inevitably have issues and not be perfect if someone puts a few hours to check each letter. I do not see any of the above issues sufficiently major to require a retraction. If there is something that actually '''misinforms the reader about what happened''', then it may be included in a correction. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:07, 1 February 2026 (UTC) *: Wikinews [[Wikinews:Archive conventions|archival policy]] limits post-publication changes to narrowly scoped factual corrections with documentation. The issues raised in this proposal extend beyond isolated factual errors and include attribution, sourcing, and structural compliance problems, which are not ordinarily addressed through post-archival edits. This is why retraction is being proposed rather than incremental correction.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:05, 2 February 2026 (UTC) *{{keep}}{{neutral}}{{comment}} While on the first glance I couldn't find "smok" in the text of the sources, I haven't re-read them yet. Both Al-Jazeera and Independent clearly show, in video and photograph, that the falling airplane emitted plenty of smoke even before crashing into the ground; whether it was smoking engine, smoking wing, or smoking door, I cannot say right now, I am not an airplane expert, but it was not a cigarette. I don't like the idea of removing a piece of text just because it is plagiarism; re-phrasing would be preferable, so that information would not be lost. If Reuters has such a hostile robots.txt, then some tool, Earwig or whatever else, should alert the contributors against usage of such sources - forcing humans to do Earwig job manually is not sustainable. As it is, I cannot be certain that your points about lack of attribution are valid - information had to have come from somewhere, it just needs to be found where it came from. Will re-read later. [[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] ([[User talk:Wikiwide|talk]]) 23:25, 1 February 2026 (UTC) *: To clarify; the video and photographs showing smoke are of the Turkish C-130 crash itself. However, the “smoking engine descending in a flat spin” description originates from Reuters’ background reference to a separate, 2017 US Marine Corps KC-130 accident, not from reporting on this incident. :: Even if the smoking engine statement was about the Turkish crash, for which there is video, Wikinews policy does not permit editors to analyze or speculate. As stated in the neutrality policy, contributors must avoid analysis and speculative interpretation unless explicitly attributed to qualified sources. In this case, we have reporting that sufficiently describes the scene without our interpretation or analysis. The change was not necessary. :: Lastly, while the 'smoke' wording would be a minor issue in isolation, it reflects a broader pattern in this article involving unsupported claims, attribution gaps, and style guide issues that should have been fixed during pre-publication review. The retraction proposal is based on the cumulative impact of these issues rather than any single descriptive detail. :: The plagiarism has already been removed as a priority along with placing a reader-facing note for transparency.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:27, 2 February 2026 (UTC) * {{Remove}} (retract with statement and blanking article) There is precedent for retracting articles with fewer issues and also specifically for inadequate reviews. For example: : :* [[New cave opens to the public in Indiana]] Retracted for being published while stale :* [[North Korea launches "early-stage" hypersonic missile]] Retracted because reviewer added a source :* [[Wikinews interviews Chiaki Hayashi, Asian Projects Coordinator at Creative Commons]] Retracted due to poor interview process and for "'''inadequate and incompetent review of the article'''". : : I propose the following retraction statement: : <blockquote>This article has been retracted because a post-publication review identified multiple policy and guideline failures, including plagiarism, unsupported and misattributed statements, sourcing gaps, attribution problems, and style compliance issues. The cumulative scope of these problems made reliable post-publication correction impractical.<br>The last version of the article text can be found <span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:Turkish military transport plane crashes near Georgia border, 20 dead|&oldid=4981005}} here]</span>.</blockquote>[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:09, 4 February 2026 (UTC) == January 22, 2026 == === [[:Roblox player uncovers cheating, awarded Guinness World Record]] === State reason for deletion request and sign with [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:19, 22 January 2026 (UTC). Nomination again. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:19, 22 January 2026 (UTC) ==== Comments ==== nominating again with my evidence.{{unsigned|BigKrow}} : Please add the specific evidence supporting this deletion request. : Per [[WN:DG|deletion guidelines]] and [[Wikinews:Criteria_for_deletion#Cases_where_deletion_may_be_required]], deletion requests must clearly state the applicable criterion and the supporting rationale. : If no evidence or criterion is provided, the request cannot be evaluated and may be removed as procedurally invalid.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:20, 23 January 2026 (UTC) : This request does not cite any applicable deletion criteria or provide a supporting rationale, so it cannot be evaluated. It has now remained open beyond the recommended, seven-day period.<br>For reference, a consolidated list of related discussions is available on the [[Talk:Roblox player uncovers cheating, awarded Guinness World Record#Related discussions|article talk page]].<br>As the reviewer of the article, I am noting my involvement for transparency. <del>Absent any objections, I intend to close this request on procedural grounds with no action taken.</del>[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:23, 7 February 2026 (UTC) ::This user is promoting story on other sources as well. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:40, 7 February 2026 (UTC) ==== Votes ==== {{remove}} {{unsigned|BigKrow}}[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Deletion_requests&diff=prev&oldid=4977214] {{abstain}} As the reviewer of the article, I am abstaining from voting. On further consideration regarding [[#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260207162300-Michael.C.Wright-20260123142000|my previous note re:closing on procedural grounds]], I will not close this request myself. An uninvolved administrator is invited to review and take any action necessary.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:23, 24 February 2026 (UTC) == September 11, 2025 == === [[Flash flooding, landslides in Pakistan leave hundreds dead]] === {{flag}} This is a proposed retraction of a published article. As stated on the article talk page: the article contains no attribution, meaning every statement is presented in Wikivoice, asserted by Wikinews. Additionally, several key statements are unsupported by the sources provided (emphasis added): * "Survivors described the floods as '''sudden and catastrophic'''..." * "The scale of destruction was '''unprecedented'''..." * "...with '''dozens of villages''' damaged or flattened..." * "The recent flash floods in Pakistan amid heavy monsoon rains have caused '''one of the deadliest natural disasters in the region'''..." * "...amid '''worsening''' weather conditions..." The review summary noted that the last paragraph was “probably AI generated and needs some revision to reduce bias and make it more factual,” meaning the bias was recognized at the time of publication. A 12-hour window was provided for revisions, but the issues were not addressed. Since the article still contains unsupported statements and lacks attribution, and more than 24 hours have passed, the problems cannot be corrected without a substantial rewrite, which [[WN:ARCHIVE]] prohibits. Therefore, a correction statement is insufficient; the article should be fully retracted, with its content blanked and replaced by a retraction notice. As stated by the original author, the article was mostly written by AI. According to [[WN:AI]] (a proposed guideline), "Wikinews articles must always reflect human-reviewed accuracy, neutrality, and verification of sources." Given the issues with [[WN:NPOV]], [[WN:Source]], and [[WN:AI]], I propose this article be retracted. ==== Comments ==== * {{comment}} If consensus is to remove the article, I propose the addition of the following retraction statement and a blanking of the article: <blockquote>This article has been retracted because it failed to comply with our [[WN:CS|sourcing policy]], [[WN:NPOV|neutrality policy]] and recommended guidance for AI/LLM use.<br>The last version of the article text can be found <span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:Environmental protest in Indonesia denounces Australia's plastic waste exports|&oldid=4878116}} here]</span>.</blockquote> ==== Votes ==== Please vote using {{keep}}, {{remove}}, {{neutral}}, or {{comment}} followed by signature {{neutral}}, [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:59, 11 September 2025 (UTC) : Could you share a bit more about your perspective? For example, do you see a preferred course of action besides retraction, or do you view the article differently than my assessment, or do you think a specific policy or guideline needs to be changed? Your thoughts could help shape consensus before the discussion closes.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:09, 12 September 2025 (UTC) ::I will vote per nom. Thanks @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 14:59, 12 September 2025 (UTC) :::I didnt get it. Why not do "correction" by removing biased words? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:44, 13 September 2025 (UTC) :::: [[WN:Archive]][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:48, 14 September 2025 (UTC) : {{remove}} Since this was "mostly" AI generated and includes several unsupported statements, I think we should retract the article. We need to ensure we are not allowing "AI Slop"[https://www.theverge.com/report/756810/wikipedia-ai-slop-policies-community-speedy-deletion] to creep into Wikinews.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:57, 24 September 2025 (UTC) : {{remove}}, we should not keep AI-generated articles. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 21:32, 17 November 2025 (UTC) ::Why though? @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:45, 17 November 2025 (UTC) :::It is prone to including errors and honestly, it's a more lazy way of writing that does not take much effort. We should focus on keeping quality articles only in my opinion. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 21:52, 17 November 2025 (UTC) ::::I love AI though maybe that makes me "lazy too". [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:01, 17 November 2025 (UTC) ::::: I think we can differentiate between AI-assisted and AI-generated. AI-assisted is permitted, even encouraged for some uses, as briefly discussed in [[Help:AI]]. ::::: AI-generated is frowned upon, discouraged, and in our proposed [[WN:AI]], forbidden.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:08, 18 November 2025 (UTC) ::<strike>{{remove}} per nomination</strike> [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2025-42360-72|&#126;2025-42360-72]] ([[User talk:&#126;2025-42360-72|talk]]) 23:55, 21 December 2025 (UTC) :::I have stricken the vote from the above temp. account. It was only active for seven days in December, 2025 and was likely a vandal, though never blocked. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 00:12, 11 March 2026 (UTC) : This request has been open for several months and participation has been limited. <br>If anyone has additional views on the appropriate resolution—whether correction <br>or retraction—please add them. : Otherwise, the discussion may be ready for closure.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 00:18, 11 March 2026 (UTC) ::1. I am {{weak oppose}} to deletion, because event was occurred and there is a proposal to salvage article as shown below. ::2. Suggest reword 2nd and 3rd para as one para as follows: ::"Dozens of villages were damaged or flattened. Emergency response efforts were in progress. Happening amid heavy monsoon rains, there were hundreds dead. Emergency authorities and communities faced challenges with rescue and recovery. The rain was ongoing at the time of the report as the government was continuing rescue operations." ::This goes to 102, barely above the word limit for an article. I tried to make it as neutral and unambiguous as possible. ::and add correction notice ::"In this article several statements about the extent and impact of the torrential rains were over exaggerated, and opinion was presented as fact, going against [[WN:NPOV|neutrality]] requirement. This has been corrected by removing opinionated pieces and shortening the text." ::Regaɾds, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:31, 11 March 2026 (UTC) ::: > ''Dozens of villages were damaged or flattened.'' ::: Which source supports that and how? ::: > ''Emergency authorities and communities faced challenges with rescue and recovery.'' ::: Who actually said this? It should be attributed. ::: > ''The rain was ongoing at the time of the report'' ::: Which source supports that and how?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:01, 11 March 2026 (UTC) ::::ok, cbs news wrote: ::::* One resident told AFP that the flash floods felt like "the end of the world" as the ground shook with the force of the water ::::article text can be: ::::* One of the survivors described the floods as catastrophic ::::cbd news wrote: ::::* "Mohammad Khan, 53, said the floods "came so fast that many could not leave their homes."" ::::article text can be ::::* one of the survivors described the floods as sudden ::::bbc source text was: ::::* In the Indian-administered part of Kashmir, rescuers pulled bodies from mud and rubble on Friday after a flood crashed through a Himalayan village, killing at least 60 people and washing away dozens more. ::::ai hallucinated as: ::::* Dozens of villages were damaged or flattened. ::::should be ::::* Pir Baba and Malik Pura villages were most hit by the heavy rains, with most fatalities reported in these areas. ::::re "Emergency authorities and communities faced challenges with rescue and recovery." could remove that part. ::::leaving with this thing to put for 2nd and 3rd para: ::::* CBS News reported some survivors describing floods as sudden or catastrophic. Emergency response efforts were in progress. Happening amid heavy monsoon rains, there were hundreds dead. CBS News also reported excessive rains being increasingly common in the India's Himalayan regions and Pakistan's northern areas, attributing them to climate change. ::::* Correction text: ::::** In this article several statements about the extent and impact of the torrential rains were over exaggerated, and opinion was presented as fact, going against [[WN:NPOV|neutrality]] requirement. This has been corrected by removing opinionated pieces and shortening the text. A passage was added to clarify the location and cause as required by [[WN:5W|5W]]. ::::This is kind of stretched out, because not supposed to expand article after it was published. I tried to do minimal additions to just barely meet the 100 words requirement. If this is an sisue, then, I think can ignore that rule and go with ::::* CBS News reported some survivors describing floods as sudden or catastrophic. Emergency response efforts were in progress. Happening amid heavy monsoon rains, there were hundreds dead. ::::* Correction text: ::::** In this article several statements about the extent and impact of the torrential rains were over exaggerated, and opinion was presented as fact, going against [[WN:NPOV|neutrality]] requirement. This has been corrected by removing opinionated pieces and shortening the text. The article became shorter than the required length, and was preserved for archival purposes. ::::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:00, 11 March 2026 (UTC) ::::: Which of the above reflects your intended proposal? Please implement the version you consider appropriate and leave the changes unsighted so they can be evaluated.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:44, 6 April 2026 (UTC) = Undeletion requests = <!--ADD undeletion requests below this line--> = Proposed deletions = {{shortcut|[[WN:ABAND]]}} {{PurgeButton|anchor=Proposed deletions}} For reference, it is currently {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}}. {{Wikinews:Deletion requests/proposed|}} k0oyli9f5a03ceaddmthei4gtq41xjt 0 6478 5007953 4818771 2026-04-14T11:08:31Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007953 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|March 26, 2005}} Up to four times as many women as men died in the [[w:Indian Ocean Tsunami|December 26 Indian Ocean Tsunami]], figures published by [[w:Oxfam|Oxfam International]] today reveal. "In some villages it now appears that up to 80% of those killed were women. This disproportionate impact will lead to problems for years to come unless everyone working on the aid effort addresses the issue now. We are already hearing about rapes, harassment and forced early marriages. We all need to wake up to this issue and ensure the protection, inclusion and empowerment of the women that have survived,” said, Becky Buell, Oxfam’s Policy Director. As well as recognition of the disparity, and further research, Oxfam calls for a number of practical measures including assistance for men in affected areas to "adapt to changing gender roles including caring of children" and better protection for women, who may be finding themselves severely outnumbered by men. [[Image:Beached Boat-Galle.jpg|180px|left|Beached boat in Galle, Sri Lanca after 2004 Tsunami]] As well as reporting that workers on the ground have been "becoming increasingly aware that a disproportionate percentage of the fatalities there were female", the study looks in detail at a number of locations in [[Indonesia]], [[Sri Lanka]] and [[:Category:India|India]], the three countries with greatest [[Tsunami death toll updated|death toll]] from the disaster, and finds consistently that women killed outnumber men. The differences are explained in the report as originating both in differences in ability &mdash; more men can swim and climb trees in the affected areas than women, and men are generally physically stronger &mdash; as well as in differences in activity that the individuals were engaged in at the time the [[w:Tsunami|tsunami]] struck &mdash; many women in [[w:Aceh|Aceh]] were indoors at home with the children on a Sunday morning, while many men were fishing at sea, or on errands. In India, many of the women were waiting at the sea-shore for men to bring home the catch, when the wave hit. The wave at sea had not yet broken, and so posed no threat to vessels far enough from shore. In Sri Lanka in Batticoloa District, the tsunami hit at the hour women on the east coast usually took their baths in the sea. Women looking after children at the time of the tidal wave were further distracted by trying to save their children, while men away from the house were able to dedicate more of their efforts to saving themselves. Another factor particularly important in Aceh was that many of the men of the region had left to seek work elsewhere, while women stayed behind in their home community, which was almost completely wiped out by the wave. The survey looked at Aceh Besar district of Indonesia, the North Aceh district, the two worst-affected districts of Tamil Naidu in South India, being Nagapattinam and Cuddalore, and used rough statistics and anecdotal information from Sri Lanka, where hard figures are not available. ==References== * {{source|url=http://www.oxfam.org.uk/what_we_do/issues/conflict_disasters/downloads/bn_tsunami_women.pdf |title=Oxfam Briefing Note: The tsunami's impact on women (PDF) |pub=Oxfam International |author=Oxfam International |date=March 26, 2005 }} * {{source|url=http://www.oxfam.org.uk/press/releases/tsunami_women260305.htm |title=Press Release: Three months on: New figures show Tsunami may have killed up to four times as many women as men |pub=Oxfam GB |author=Oxfam GB |date=March 26, 2005 }} * {{source|url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/tsunami/story/0,15671,1445967,00.html |title=Four times as many women died in tsunami |pub=The Guardian |author=John Aglionby |date=March 26, 2005 }} ==See also== *{{Wikinews|title=Tsunami death toll updated |date=24 March 2005}} *{{Wikinews|title=Strongest earthquake in 40 years hits Southeast Asia |date=08:52, 26 Dec 2004}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami]] [[Category:Disasters and accidents]] [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:Indonesia]] [[Category:Sri Lanka]] [[Category:India]] [[Category:Published]] 5ach334tehe7cjeij9w7ffq5va4nh8p 4 7100 5007540 5007334 2026-04-13T12:25:37Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* In anticipation of DPL being disabled */ reply to Metropolitan90 ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5007540 wikitext text/x-wiki {{start tab |tab font-size =300% |link-1 =WN:Admin action alerts |tab-1 ='''Alerts''' |link-2 =WN:Admin action alerts/Requests |tab-2 ='''Requests''' |frame =no |border =2px solid #000 |off tab color = |on tab color = |rounding =0em |tab alignment =center }} {{/Header}} {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikinews:Admin action alerts/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(14d) |counter = 14 |maxarchivesize = 192K }} {{clear}} __NEWSECTIONLINK__ == ~2026-19034-96 == spamming nonsense Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} :Courtesy link (all edits are now deleted): [[Special:Contributions/~2026-19034-96]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:29, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Still blocked from responding to WN migration thread by bot attack filter == Hi folks, I and my fellow Miraheze representative (@RhinosF1) are still unable to respond to any inquiries on [[Wikinews_talk:Migration]], with any action taken now hitting the Abuse filter restriction labeled as Bot Attack Filter. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], giving you a heads up as our original report of the issue on the AAA board in Nov went unaddressed, that's why further communication on the matter from Miraheze folks got stalled. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 17:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that an admin should delete the filter due to a very high rate of false positives. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I've switched the filter to log-only for now. Seeing as the creator is not very active any more, I've boldly made the change. If this causes an issue, a local admin can feel free to revert me. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 18:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Thanks folks, that did the trick. Will add any pending replies. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == ~2026-19884-13 == * {{User|~2026-19884-13}} Spam. [[User: Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi!]] ([[User talk: Tenshi Hinanawi|Talk page]]) 09:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:14, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == {{User|Route 2026}} == {{User|Route 2026}} This username is similar to mine, but it has absolutely no connection to me. Furthermore, when this user created his/her user page, he/she sets it to redirect to my user page (not created), which I felt was an intentional attempt to cause confusion. I believe he/she should be blocked for using an inappropriate username.[[User:Route 2025|Route 2025]] ([[User talk:Route 2025|talk]]) 16:48, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} That is just weird. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:48, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Requesting unprotection == Hi, can you please unprotect my user page ([[User:Daniel]])? It has some sort of legacy protection that prevents me from editing it. Need to clean up. Thanks, [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 02:02, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:47, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ==Administrative matters for the closure== Could the admins check with the Foundation to find out what ''time'' on May 4 they intend to make Wikinews read-only? (I'm not saying that this information should necessarily be publicized, since someone might exploit it to sneak some self-promotion onto the site at the last minute. But the admins should know.) On a related note, could the admins make sure that the [[Wikinews:Newsroom|Newsroom]] is cleared out by the last day? The list of "Incorrectly flagged articles", for example, is baffling enough with Wikinews being active; we don't need to have them confuse people for the rest of the Internet's lifespan. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC) : {{tq|could the admins make sure that the Newsroom is cleared out by the last day}} : Yes. I am working through as much of the archival work as I can. At present, I am not aware of any other administrator undertaking similar efforts. I have reached out to one administrator who has left a number of incomplete changes, but they appear to have disengaged. Given that, I am focusing on what can reasonably be addressed without taking on additional cleanup beyond routine, shutting-things-down-type work. : There are some things the 'crats typically need to do and I've pinged them in some cases to close discussions such as requests for permissions. As we get closer to D-Day, if nothing is done, I'll close more things down myself if necessary. : Regarding the incorrectly flagged articles, one major issue is the absence of a documented procedure for retracting articles, particularly in relation to [[:Category:No publish]]. A practical short-term fix would be to include all retracted stories in that category, or alternatively disable the DPL as the project winds down (DPL would likely be disabled as part of the mothballing process anyway). : That approach would leave the record as-is, including its shortcomings. At minimum, it preserves a complete account of how these issues were or were not handled, which may be of value to anyone reviewing the project in the future.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:36, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} What's DPL? Thanks for what you are working on. If there is anything that non-admins can do to help, let us know. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:09, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::: DPL is [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)]]. It is used not only on the Newsroom page, but also on the main page and all infoboxes (and more). <br> Our use of it (or rather ru.WN's use) has some [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|history]]. We should have migrated off of it long ago. Part of me wonders if that factored in to the SPTF's decision to close Wikinews. <br> At any rate, it will no doubt be disabled, leaving an error on every page that uses it. I'm not sure how to change all of our infoboxes so that they still return something useful once DPL is disabled and the site is read-only. And there isn't enough of a community left to try to figure it out, either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:17, 12 April 2026 (UTC) == In anticipation of DPL being disabled == I've started working through [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] removing DPL and replacing it with static lists. It's time-consuming and I alone won't get through all infoboxes, before the project is marked read-only and DPL likely is disabled. All admin are encouraged to help. See the edit histories of the following as examples of how I do it: [[Template:2005 London bombing infobox]]<br> [[Template:2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict]]<br> [[Template:2006EuropeanChampionshipsAthletics]]<br> [[Template:2007 Iranian seizure of Royal Navy personnel]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei 101 Run Up]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei IT Month]] We'll need to do similar work on normal infoboxes, which are more complicated, as well as the Main page, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:40, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :I was going to suggest raw HTML or even [[:mw:subst:|subst:]] the templates. How were you doing it, Michael? Are you looking at the web page's code and copy/pasting the HTML? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 15:30, 12 April 2026 (UTC) ::Some of the infoboxes are not admin-protected, so I will help with replacing the DPL with static lists where I can. I just did that for [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:55, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link: [[:Category:Infoboxes]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:05, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have also done the following: :::[[Template:WDSC2007]]<br> :::[[Template:Tour de France 2007]] :::So I recommend that the admins focus on the protected templates and leave the unprotected templates for editors like me to handle. Each template takes only a few minutes to edit. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:07, 12 April 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} Is there a reason not to keep using [[Template:Infosection]] in these infoboxes, rather than replacing it with <nowiki><div style="background: #bce1ff; color: #202122; padding: 2px; text-align: center; style; font-size: normal;">...</nowiki>? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:10, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **Also, I notice that the underlying articles linked from [[Template:WDSC2007]] are displaying the updated infobox (see [[2007 World Deaf Swimming Championships Day 5: A fantastic ending]], for example), but those from [[Template:Tour de France 2007]] and [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]] are not (see [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]], for example). I'm not sure what the difference is. (The updated infoboxes use the correct dates for the underlying articles, rather than dating everything 17 February 2025.) --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:42, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **: The 17 February 2025 date was the result of work we did with the license upgrade and is therefore going to be incorrect according to the publish date, unfortunately. As I've removed DPLs, I have not been adding a date. Just a bulleted list that I copied and pasted.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:25, 13 April 2026 (UTC) ff8hxr2rx13tnycqazlt8cqkumeg0pt 5007541 5007540 2026-04-13T12:26:08Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* In anticipation of DPL being disabled */ reply to Metropolitan90 ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5007541 wikitext text/x-wiki {{start tab |tab font-size =300% |link-1 =WN:Admin action alerts |tab-1 ='''Alerts''' |link-2 =WN:Admin action alerts/Requests |tab-2 ='''Requests''' |frame =no |border =2px solid #000 |off tab color = |on tab color = |rounding =0em |tab alignment =center }} {{/Header}} {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikinews:Admin action alerts/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(14d) |counter = 14 |maxarchivesize = 192K }} {{clear}} __NEWSECTIONLINK__ == ~2026-19034-96 == spamming nonsense Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} :Courtesy link (all edits are now deleted): [[Special:Contributions/~2026-19034-96]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:29, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Still blocked from responding to WN migration thread by bot attack filter == Hi folks, I and my fellow Miraheze representative (@RhinosF1) are still unable to respond to any inquiries on [[Wikinews_talk:Migration]], with any action taken now hitting the Abuse filter restriction labeled as Bot Attack Filter. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], giving you a heads up as our original report of the issue on the AAA board in Nov went unaddressed, that's why further communication on the matter from Miraheze folks got stalled. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 17:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that an admin should delete the filter due to a very high rate of false positives. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I've switched the filter to log-only for now. Seeing as the creator is not very active any more, I've boldly made the change. If this causes an issue, a local admin can feel free to revert me. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 18:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Thanks folks, that did the trick. Will add any pending replies. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == ~2026-19884-13 == * {{User|~2026-19884-13}} Spam. [[User: Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi!]] ([[User talk: Tenshi Hinanawi|Talk page]]) 09:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:14, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == {{User|Route 2026}} == {{User|Route 2026}} This username is similar to mine, but it has absolutely no connection to me. Furthermore, when this user created his/her user page, he/she sets it to redirect to my user page (not created), which I felt was an intentional attempt to cause confusion. I believe he/she should be blocked for using an inappropriate username.[[User:Route 2025|Route 2025]] ([[User talk:Route 2025|talk]]) 16:48, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} That is just weird. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:48, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Requesting unprotection == Hi, can you please unprotect my user page ([[User:Daniel]])? It has some sort of legacy protection that prevents me from editing it. Need to clean up. Thanks, [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 02:02, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:47, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ==Administrative matters for the closure== Could the admins check with the Foundation to find out what ''time'' on May 4 they intend to make Wikinews read-only? (I'm not saying that this information should necessarily be publicized, since someone might exploit it to sneak some self-promotion onto the site at the last minute. But the admins should know.) On a related note, could the admins make sure that the [[Wikinews:Newsroom|Newsroom]] is cleared out by the last day? The list of "Incorrectly flagged articles", for example, is baffling enough with Wikinews being active; we don't need to have them confuse people for the rest of the Internet's lifespan. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC) : {{tq|could the admins make sure that the Newsroom is cleared out by the last day}} : Yes. I am working through as much of the archival work as I can. At present, I am not aware of any other administrator undertaking similar efforts. I have reached out to one administrator who has left a number of incomplete changes, but they appear to have disengaged. Given that, I am focusing on what can reasonably be addressed without taking on additional cleanup beyond routine, shutting-things-down-type work. : There are some things the 'crats typically need to do and I've pinged them in some cases to close discussions such as requests for permissions. As we get closer to D-Day, if nothing is done, I'll close more things down myself if necessary. : Regarding the incorrectly flagged articles, one major issue is the absence of a documented procedure for retracting articles, particularly in relation to [[:Category:No publish]]. A practical short-term fix would be to include all retracted stories in that category, or alternatively disable the DPL as the project winds down (DPL would likely be disabled as part of the mothballing process anyway). : That approach would leave the record as-is, including its shortcomings. At minimum, it preserves a complete account of how these issues were or were not handled, which may be of value to anyone reviewing the project in the future.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:36, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} What's DPL? Thanks for what you are working on. If there is anything that non-admins can do to help, let us know. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:09, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::: DPL is [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)]]. It is used not only on the Newsroom page, but also on the main page and all infoboxes (and more). <br> Our use of it (or rather ru.WN's use) has some [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|history]]. We should have migrated off of it long ago. Part of me wonders if that factored in to the SPTF's decision to close Wikinews. <br> At any rate, it will no doubt be disabled, leaving an error on every page that uses it. I'm not sure how to change all of our infoboxes so that they still return something useful once DPL is disabled and the site is read-only. And there isn't enough of a community left to try to figure it out, either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:17, 12 April 2026 (UTC) == In anticipation of DPL being disabled == I've started working through [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] removing DPL and replacing it with static lists. It's time-consuming and I alone won't get through all infoboxes, before the project is marked read-only and DPL likely is disabled. All admin are encouraged to help. See the edit histories of the following as examples of how I do it: [[Template:2005 London bombing infobox]]<br> [[Template:2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict]]<br> [[Template:2006EuropeanChampionshipsAthletics]]<br> [[Template:2007 Iranian seizure of Royal Navy personnel]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei 101 Run Up]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei IT Month]] We'll need to do similar work on normal infoboxes, which are more complicated, as well as the Main page, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:40, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :I was going to suggest raw HTML or even [[:mw:subst:|subst:]] the templates. How were you doing it, Michael? Are you looking at the web page's code and copy/pasting the HTML? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 15:30, 12 April 2026 (UTC) ::Some of the infoboxes are not admin-protected, so I will help with replacing the DPL with static lists where I can. I just did that for [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:55, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link: [[:Category:Infoboxes]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:05, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have also done the following: :::[[Template:WDSC2007]]<br> :::[[Template:Tour de France 2007]] :::So I recommend that the admins focus on the protected templates and leave the unprotected templates for editors like me to handle. Each template takes only a few minutes to edit. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:07, 12 April 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} Is there a reason not to keep using [[Template:Infosection]] in these infoboxes, rather than replacing it with <nowiki><div style="background: #bce1ff; color: #202122; padding: 2px; text-align: center; style; font-size: normal;">...</nowiki>? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:10, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **Also, I notice that the underlying articles linked from [[Template:WDSC2007]] are displaying the updated infobox (see [[2007 World Deaf Swimming Championships Day 5: A fantastic ending]], for example), but those from [[Template:Tour de France 2007]] and [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]] are not (see [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]], for example). I'm not sure what the difference is. (The updated infoboxes use the correct dates for the underlying articles, rather than dating everything 17 February 2025.) --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:42, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **: The 17 February 2025 date was the result of work we did with the license upgrade and is therefore going to be incorrect according to the publish date, unfortunately. As I've removed DPLs, I have not been adding a date. Just a bulleted list that I copied and pasted.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:25, 13 April 2026 (UTC) ** I don't know of any and you're right, it might be better to simply replace the DPL.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) btjdqf4j0t0st9nsxby3utgvuepua6e 5007542 5007541 2026-04-13T12:26:55Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* In anticipation of DPL being disabled */ reply to Koavf: Using subst might be a much better solution... (-) ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5007542 wikitext text/x-wiki {{start tab |tab font-size =300% |link-1 =WN:Admin action alerts |tab-1 ='''Alerts''' |link-2 =WN:Admin action alerts/Requests |tab-2 ='''Requests''' |frame =no |border =2px solid #000 |off tab color = |on tab color = |rounding =0em |tab alignment =center }} {{/Header}} {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikinews:Admin action alerts/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(14d) |counter = 14 |maxarchivesize = 192K }} {{clear}} __NEWSECTIONLINK__ == ~2026-19034-96 == spamming nonsense Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} :Courtesy link (all edits are now deleted): [[Special:Contributions/~2026-19034-96]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:29, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Still blocked from responding to WN migration thread by bot attack filter == Hi folks, I and my fellow Miraheze representative (@RhinosF1) are still unable to respond to any inquiries on [[Wikinews_talk:Migration]], with any action taken now hitting the Abuse filter restriction labeled as Bot Attack Filter. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], giving you a heads up as our original report of the issue on the AAA board in Nov went unaddressed, that's why further communication on the matter from Miraheze folks got stalled. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 17:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that an admin should delete the filter due to a very high rate of false positives. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I've switched the filter to log-only for now. Seeing as the creator is not very active any more, I've boldly made the change. If this causes an issue, a local admin can feel free to revert me. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 18:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Thanks folks, that did the trick. Will add any pending replies. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == ~2026-19884-13 == * {{User|~2026-19884-13}} Spam. [[User: Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi!]] ([[User talk: Tenshi Hinanawi|Talk page]]) 09:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:14, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == {{User|Route 2026}} == {{User|Route 2026}} This username is similar to mine, but it has absolutely no connection to me. Furthermore, when this user created his/her user page, he/she sets it to redirect to my user page (not created), which I felt was an intentional attempt to cause confusion. I believe he/she should be blocked for using an inappropriate username.[[User:Route 2025|Route 2025]] ([[User talk:Route 2025|talk]]) 16:48, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} That is just weird. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:48, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Requesting unprotection == Hi, can you please unprotect my user page ([[User:Daniel]])? It has some sort of legacy protection that prevents me from editing it. Need to clean up. Thanks, [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 02:02, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:47, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ==Administrative matters for the closure== Could the admins check with the Foundation to find out what ''time'' on May 4 they intend to make Wikinews read-only? (I'm not saying that this information should necessarily be publicized, since someone might exploit it to sneak some self-promotion onto the site at the last minute. But the admins should know.) On a related note, could the admins make sure that the [[Wikinews:Newsroom|Newsroom]] is cleared out by the last day? The list of "Incorrectly flagged articles", for example, is baffling enough with Wikinews being active; we don't need to have them confuse people for the rest of the Internet's lifespan. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC) : {{tq|could the admins make sure that the Newsroom is cleared out by the last day}} : Yes. I am working through as much of the archival work as I can. At present, I am not aware of any other administrator undertaking similar efforts. I have reached out to one administrator who has left a number of incomplete changes, but they appear to have disengaged. Given that, I am focusing on what can reasonably be addressed without taking on additional cleanup beyond routine, shutting-things-down-type work. : There are some things the 'crats typically need to do and I've pinged them in some cases to close discussions such as requests for permissions. As we get closer to D-Day, if nothing is done, I'll close more things down myself if necessary. : Regarding the incorrectly flagged articles, one major issue is the absence of a documented procedure for retracting articles, particularly in relation to [[:Category:No publish]]. A practical short-term fix would be to include all retracted stories in that category, or alternatively disable the DPL as the project winds down (DPL would likely be disabled as part of the mothballing process anyway). : That approach would leave the record as-is, including its shortcomings. At minimum, it preserves a complete account of how these issues were or were not handled, which may be of value to anyone reviewing the project in the future.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:36, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} What's DPL? Thanks for what you are working on. If there is anything that non-admins can do to help, let us know. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:09, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::: DPL is [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)]]. It is used not only on the Newsroom page, but also on the main page and all infoboxes (and more). <br> Our use of it (or rather ru.WN's use) has some [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|history]]. We should have migrated off of it long ago. Part of me wonders if that factored in to the SPTF's decision to close Wikinews. <br> At any rate, it will no doubt be disabled, leaving an error on every page that uses it. I'm not sure how to change all of our infoboxes so that they still return something useful once DPL is disabled and the site is read-only. And there isn't enough of a community left to try to figure it out, either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:17, 12 April 2026 (UTC) == In anticipation of DPL being disabled == I've started working through [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] removing DPL and replacing it with static lists. It's time-consuming and I alone won't get through all infoboxes, before the project is marked read-only and DPL likely is disabled. All admin are encouraged to help. See the edit histories of the following as examples of how I do it: [[Template:2005 London bombing infobox]]<br> [[Template:2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict]]<br> [[Template:2006EuropeanChampionshipsAthletics]]<br> [[Template:2007 Iranian seizure of Royal Navy personnel]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei 101 Run Up]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei IT Month]] We'll need to do similar work on normal infoboxes, which are more complicated, as well as the Main page, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:40, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :I was going to suggest raw HTML or even [[:mw:subst:|subst:]] the templates. How were you doing it, Michael? Are you looking at the web page's code and copy/pasting the HTML? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 15:30, 12 April 2026 (UTC) ::Some of the infoboxes are not admin-protected, so I will help with replacing the DPL with static lists where I can. I just did that for [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:55, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :: Using subst might be a much better solution...[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link: [[:Category:Infoboxes]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:05, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have also done the following: :::[[Template:WDSC2007]]<br> :::[[Template:Tour de France 2007]] :::So I recommend that the admins focus on the protected templates and leave the unprotected templates for editors like me to handle. Each template takes only a few minutes to edit. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:07, 12 April 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} Is there a reason not to keep using [[Template:Infosection]] in these infoboxes, rather than replacing it with <nowiki><div style="background: #bce1ff; color: #202122; padding: 2px; text-align: center; style; font-size: normal;">...</nowiki>? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:10, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **Also, I notice that the underlying articles linked from [[Template:WDSC2007]] are displaying the updated infobox (see [[2007 World Deaf Swimming Championships Day 5: A fantastic ending]], for example), but those from [[Template:Tour de France 2007]] and [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]] are not (see [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]], for example). I'm not sure what the difference is. (The updated infoboxes use the correct dates for the underlying articles, rather than dating everything 17 February 2025.) --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:42, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **: The 17 February 2025 date was the result of work we did with the license upgrade and is therefore going to be incorrect according to the publish date, unfortunately. As I've removed DPLs, I have not been adding a date. Just a bulleted list that I copied and pasted.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:25, 13 April 2026 (UTC) ** I don't know of any and you're right, it might be better to simply replace the DPL.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) efy97ibn997f7bmuhju989zk0s6x3ec 5007543 5007542 2026-04-13T12:27:47Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* In anticipation of DPL being disabled */ reply to Metropolitan90 ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5007543 wikitext text/x-wiki {{start tab |tab font-size =300% |link-1 =WN:Admin action alerts |tab-1 ='''Alerts''' |link-2 =WN:Admin action alerts/Requests |tab-2 ='''Requests''' |frame =no |border =2px solid #000 |off tab color = |on tab color = |rounding =0em |tab alignment =center }} {{/Header}} {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikinews:Admin action alerts/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(14d) |counter = 14 |maxarchivesize = 192K }} {{clear}} __NEWSECTIONLINK__ == ~2026-19034-96 == spamming nonsense Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} :Courtesy link (all edits are now deleted): [[Special:Contributions/~2026-19034-96]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:29, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Still blocked from responding to WN migration thread by bot attack filter == Hi folks, I and my fellow Miraheze representative (@RhinosF1) are still unable to respond to any inquiries on [[Wikinews_talk:Migration]], with any action taken now hitting the Abuse filter restriction labeled as Bot Attack Filter. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], giving you a heads up as our original report of the issue on the AAA board in Nov went unaddressed, that's why further communication on the matter from Miraheze folks got stalled. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 17:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that an admin should delete the filter due to a very high rate of false positives. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I've switched the filter to log-only for now. Seeing as the creator is not very active any more, I've boldly made the change. If this causes an issue, a local admin can feel free to revert me. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 18:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Thanks folks, that did the trick. Will add any pending replies. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == ~2026-19884-13 == * {{User|~2026-19884-13}} Spam. [[User: Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi!]] ([[User talk: Tenshi Hinanawi|Talk page]]) 09:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:14, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == {{User|Route 2026}} == {{User|Route 2026}} This username is similar to mine, but it has absolutely no connection to me. Furthermore, when this user created his/her user page, he/she sets it to redirect to my user page (not created), which I felt was an intentional attempt to cause confusion. I believe he/she should be blocked for using an inappropriate username.[[User:Route 2025|Route 2025]] ([[User talk:Route 2025|talk]]) 16:48, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} That is just weird. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:48, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Requesting unprotection == Hi, can you please unprotect my user page ([[User:Daniel]])? It has some sort of legacy protection that prevents me from editing it. Need to clean up. Thanks, [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 02:02, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:47, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ==Administrative matters for the closure== Could the admins check with the Foundation to find out what ''time'' on May 4 they intend to make Wikinews read-only? (I'm not saying that this information should necessarily be publicized, since someone might exploit it to sneak some self-promotion onto the site at the last minute. But the admins should know.) On a related note, could the admins make sure that the [[Wikinews:Newsroom|Newsroom]] is cleared out by the last day? The list of "Incorrectly flagged articles", for example, is baffling enough with Wikinews being active; we don't need to have them confuse people for the rest of the Internet's lifespan. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC) : {{tq|could the admins make sure that the Newsroom is cleared out by the last day}} : Yes. I am working through as much of the archival work as I can. At present, I am not aware of any other administrator undertaking similar efforts. I have reached out to one administrator who has left a number of incomplete changes, but they appear to have disengaged. Given that, I am focusing on what can reasonably be addressed without taking on additional cleanup beyond routine, shutting-things-down-type work. : There are some things the 'crats typically need to do and I've pinged them in some cases to close discussions such as requests for permissions. As we get closer to D-Day, if nothing is done, I'll close more things down myself if necessary. : Regarding the incorrectly flagged articles, one major issue is the absence of a documented procedure for retracting articles, particularly in relation to [[:Category:No publish]]. A practical short-term fix would be to include all retracted stories in that category, or alternatively disable the DPL as the project winds down (DPL would likely be disabled as part of the mothballing process anyway). : That approach would leave the record as-is, including its shortcomings. At minimum, it preserves a complete account of how these issues were or were not handled, which may be of value to anyone reviewing the project in the future.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:36, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} What's DPL? Thanks for what you are working on. If there is anything that non-admins can do to help, let us know. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:09, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::: DPL is [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)]]. It is used not only on the Newsroom page, but also on the main page and all infoboxes (and more). <br> Our use of it (or rather ru.WN's use) has some [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|history]]. We should have migrated off of it long ago. Part of me wonders if that factored in to the SPTF's decision to close Wikinews. <br> At any rate, it will no doubt be disabled, leaving an error on every page that uses it. I'm not sure how to change all of our infoboxes so that they still return something useful once DPL is disabled and the site is read-only. And there isn't enough of a community left to try to figure it out, either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:17, 12 April 2026 (UTC) == In anticipation of DPL being disabled == I've started working through [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] removing DPL and replacing it with static lists. It's time-consuming and I alone won't get through all infoboxes, before the project is marked read-only and DPL likely is disabled. All admin are encouraged to help. See the edit histories of the following as examples of how I do it: [[Template:2005 London bombing infobox]]<br> [[Template:2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict]]<br> [[Template:2006EuropeanChampionshipsAthletics]]<br> [[Template:2007 Iranian seizure of Royal Navy personnel]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei 101 Run Up]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei IT Month]] We'll need to do similar work on normal infoboxes, which are more complicated, as well as the Main page, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:40, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :I was going to suggest raw HTML or even [[:mw:subst:|subst:]] the templates. How were you doing it, Michael? Are you looking at the web page's code and copy/pasting the HTML? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 15:30, 12 April 2026 (UTC) ::Some of the infoboxes are not admin-protected, so I will help with replacing the DPL with static lists where I can. I just did that for [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:55, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :: Using subst might be a much better solution...[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link: [[:Category:Infoboxes]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:05, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have also done the following: :::[[Template:WDSC2007]]<br> :::[[Template:Tour de France 2007]] :::So I recommend that the admins focus on the protected templates and leave the unprotected templates for editors like me to handle. Each template takes only a few minutes to edit. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:07, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::: Much appreciated and I'll start focussing only on protected first.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:27, 13 April 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} Is there a reason not to keep using [[Template:Infosection]] in these infoboxes, rather than replacing it with <nowiki><div style="background: #bce1ff; color: #202122; padding: 2px; text-align: center; style; font-size: normal;">...</nowiki>? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:10, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **Also, I notice that the underlying articles linked from [[Template:WDSC2007]] are displaying the updated infobox (see [[2007 World Deaf Swimming Championships Day 5: A fantastic ending]], for example), but those from [[Template:Tour de France 2007]] and [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]] are not (see [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]], for example). I'm not sure what the difference is. (The updated infoboxes use the correct dates for the underlying articles, rather than dating everything 17 February 2025.) --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:42, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **: The 17 February 2025 date was the result of work we did with the license upgrade and is therefore going to be incorrect according to the publish date, unfortunately. As I've removed DPLs, I have not been adding a date. Just a bulleted list that I copied and pasted.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:25, 13 April 2026 (UTC) ** I don't know of any and you're right, it might be better to simply replace the DPL.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) b6h5ja9cmvmkxr68ti91bsi0hr3zse8 5007554 5007543 2026-04-13T12:54:10Z Metropolitan90 314212 /* In anticipation of DPL being disabled */ 5007554 wikitext text/x-wiki {{start tab |tab font-size =300% |link-1 =WN:Admin action alerts |tab-1 ='''Alerts''' |link-2 =WN:Admin action alerts/Requests |tab-2 ='''Requests''' |frame =no |border =2px solid #000 |off tab color = |on tab color = |rounding =0em |tab alignment =center }} {{/Header}} {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikinews:Admin action alerts/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(14d) |counter = 14 |maxarchivesize = 192K }} {{clear}} __NEWSECTIONLINK__ == ~2026-19034-96 == spamming nonsense Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} :Courtesy link (all edits are now deleted): [[Special:Contributions/~2026-19034-96]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:29, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Still blocked from responding to WN migration thread by bot attack filter == Hi folks, I and my fellow Miraheze representative (@RhinosF1) are still unable to respond to any inquiries on [[Wikinews_talk:Migration]], with any action taken now hitting the Abuse filter restriction labeled as Bot Attack Filter. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], giving you a heads up as our original report of the issue on the AAA board in Nov went unaddressed, that's why further communication on the matter from Miraheze folks got stalled. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 17:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that an admin should delete the filter due to a very high rate of false positives. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I've switched the filter to log-only for now. Seeing as the creator is not very active any more, I've boldly made the change. If this causes an issue, a local admin can feel free to revert me. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 18:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Thanks folks, that did the trick. Will add any pending replies. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == ~2026-19884-13 == * {{User|~2026-19884-13}} Spam. [[User: Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi!]] ([[User talk: Tenshi Hinanawi|Talk page]]) 09:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:14, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == {{User|Route 2026}} == {{User|Route 2026}} This username is similar to mine, but it has absolutely no connection to me. Furthermore, when this user created his/her user page, he/she sets it to redirect to my user page (not created), which I felt was an intentional attempt to cause confusion. I believe he/she should be blocked for using an inappropriate username.[[User:Route 2025|Route 2025]] ([[User talk:Route 2025|talk]]) 16:48, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} That is just weird. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:48, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Requesting unprotection == Hi, can you please unprotect my user page ([[User:Daniel]])? It has some sort of legacy protection that prevents me from editing it. Need to clean up. Thanks, [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 02:02, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:47, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ==Administrative matters for the closure== Could the admins check with the Foundation to find out what ''time'' on May 4 they intend to make Wikinews read-only? (I'm not saying that this information should necessarily be publicized, since someone might exploit it to sneak some self-promotion onto the site at the last minute. But the admins should know.) On a related note, could the admins make sure that the [[Wikinews:Newsroom|Newsroom]] is cleared out by the last day? The list of "Incorrectly flagged articles", for example, is baffling enough with Wikinews being active; we don't need to have them confuse people for the rest of the Internet's lifespan. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC) : {{tq|could the admins make sure that the Newsroom is cleared out by the last day}} : Yes. I am working through as much of the archival work as I can. At present, I am not aware of any other administrator undertaking similar efforts. I have reached out to one administrator who has left a number of incomplete changes, but they appear to have disengaged. Given that, I am focusing on what can reasonably be addressed without taking on additional cleanup beyond routine, shutting-things-down-type work. : There are some things the 'crats typically need to do and I've pinged them in some cases to close discussions such as requests for permissions. As we get closer to D-Day, if nothing is done, I'll close more things down myself if necessary. : Regarding the incorrectly flagged articles, one major issue is the absence of a documented procedure for retracting articles, particularly in relation to [[:Category:No publish]]. A practical short-term fix would be to include all retracted stories in that category, or alternatively disable the DPL as the project winds down (DPL would likely be disabled as part of the mothballing process anyway). : That approach would leave the record as-is, including its shortcomings. At minimum, it preserves a complete account of how these issues were or were not handled, which may be of value to anyone reviewing the project in the future.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:36, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} What's DPL? Thanks for what you are working on. If there is anything that non-admins can do to help, let us know. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:09, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::: DPL is [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)]]. It is used not only on the Newsroom page, but also on the main page and all infoboxes (and more). <br> Our use of it (or rather ru.WN's use) has some [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|history]]. We should have migrated off of it long ago. Part of me wonders if that factored in to the SPTF's decision to close Wikinews. <br> At any rate, it will no doubt be disabled, leaving an error on every page that uses it. I'm not sure how to change all of our infoboxes so that they still return something useful once DPL is disabled and the site is read-only. And there isn't enough of a community left to try to figure it out, either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:17, 12 April 2026 (UTC) == In anticipation of DPL being disabled == I've started working through [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] removing DPL and replacing it with static lists. It's time-consuming and I alone won't get through all infoboxes, before the project is marked read-only and DPL likely is disabled. All admin are encouraged to help. See the edit histories of the following as examples of how I do it: [[Template:2005 London bombing infobox]]<br> [[Template:2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict]]<br> [[Template:2006EuropeanChampionshipsAthletics]]<br> [[Template:2007 Iranian seizure of Royal Navy personnel]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei 101 Run Up]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei IT Month]] We'll need to do similar work on normal infoboxes, which are more complicated, as well as the Main page, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:40, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :I was going to suggest raw HTML or even [[:mw:subst:|subst:]] the templates. How were you doing it, Michael? Are you looking at the web page's code and copy/pasting the HTML? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 15:30, 12 April 2026 (UTC) ::Some of the infoboxes are not admin-protected, so I will help with replacing the DPL with static lists where I can. I just did that for [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:55, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :: Using subst might be a much better solution...[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link: [[:Category:Infoboxes]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:05, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have also done the following: :::[[Template:WDSC2007]]<br> :::[[Template:Tour de France 2007]] :::So I recommend that the admins focus on the protected templates and leave the unprotected templates for editors like me to handle. Each template takes only a few minutes to edit. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:07, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::: Much appreciated and I'll start focussing only on protected first.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:27, 13 April 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} Is there a reason not to keep using [[Template:Infosection]] in these infoboxes, rather than replacing it with <nowiki><div style="background: #bce1ff; color: #202122; padding: 2px; text-align: center; style; font-size: normal;">...</nowiki>? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:10, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **Also, I notice that the underlying articles linked from [[Template:WDSC2007]] are displaying the updated infobox (see [[2007 World Deaf Swimming Championships Day 5: A fantastic ending]], for example), but those from [[Template:Tour de France 2007]] and [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]] are not (see [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]], for example). I'm not sure what the difference is. (The updated infoboxes use the correct dates for the underlying articles, rather than dating everything 17 February 2025.) --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:42, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **: The 17 February 2025 date was the result of work we did with the license upgrade and is therefore going to be incorrect according to the publish date, unfortunately. As I've removed DPLs, I have not been adding a date. Just a bulleted list that I copied and pasted.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:25, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::I knew about the 17 February 2025 problem from before. My point was that if I edit the dates in the infobox to be the correct date instead of 17 February 2025, I expect that if the infobox is displayed on other articles, it should be the corrected infobox rather than the uncorrected version. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 12:54, 13 April 2026 (UTC) ** I don't know of any and you're right, it might be better to simply replace the DPL.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) rde7tn5v0ilj3kqxxwq2xg4xuggf2k4 5007568 5007554 2026-04-13T13:08:00Z GLORION Gospel Ministry 2953649 /* The Love of God */ new section 5007568 wikitext text/x-wiki {{start tab |tab font-size =300% |link-1 =WN:Admin action alerts |tab-1 ='''Alerts''' |link-2 =WN:Admin action alerts/Requests |tab-2 ='''Requests''' |frame =no |border =2px solid #000 |off tab color = |on tab color = |rounding =0em |tab alignment =center }} {{/Header}} {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikinews:Admin action alerts/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(14d) |counter = 14 |maxarchivesize = 192K }} {{clear}} __NEWSECTIONLINK__ == ~2026-19034-96 == spamming nonsense Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} :Courtesy link (all edits are now deleted): [[Special:Contributions/~2026-19034-96]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:29, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Still blocked from responding to WN migration thread by bot attack filter == Hi folks, I and my fellow Miraheze representative (@RhinosF1) are still unable to respond to any inquiries on [[Wikinews_talk:Migration]], with any action taken now hitting the Abuse filter restriction labeled as Bot Attack Filter. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], giving you a heads up as our original report of the issue on the AAA board in Nov went unaddressed, that's why further communication on the matter from Miraheze folks got stalled. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 17:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that an admin should delete the filter due to a very high rate of false positives. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I've switched the filter to log-only for now. Seeing as the creator is not very active any more, I've boldly made the change. If this causes an issue, a local admin can feel free to revert me. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 18:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Thanks folks, that did the trick. Will add any pending replies. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == ~2026-19884-13 == * {{User|~2026-19884-13}} Spam. [[User: Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi!]] ([[User talk: Tenshi Hinanawi|Talk page]]) 09:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:14, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == {{User|Route 2026}} == {{User|Route 2026}} This username is similar to mine, but it has absolutely no connection to me. Furthermore, when this user created his/her user page, he/she sets it to redirect to my user page (not created), which I felt was an intentional attempt to cause confusion. I believe he/she should be blocked for using an inappropriate username.[[User:Route 2025|Route 2025]] ([[User talk:Route 2025|talk]]) 16:48, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} That is just weird. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:48, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Requesting unprotection == Hi, can you please unprotect my user page ([[User:Daniel]])? It has some sort of legacy protection that prevents me from editing it. Need to clean up. Thanks, [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 02:02, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:47, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ==Administrative matters for the closure== Could the admins check with the Foundation to find out what ''time'' on May 4 they intend to make Wikinews read-only? (I'm not saying that this information should necessarily be publicized, since someone might exploit it to sneak some self-promotion onto the site at the last minute. But the admins should know.) On a related note, could the admins make sure that the [[Wikinews:Newsroom|Newsroom]] is cleared out by the last day? The list of "Incorrectly flagged articles", for example, is baffling enough with Wikinews being active; we don't need to have them confuse people for the rest of the Internet's lifespan. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC) : {{tq|could the admins make sure that the Newsroom is cleared out by the last day}} : Yes. I am working through as much of the archival work as I can. At present, I am not aware of any other administrator undertaking similar efforts. I have reached out to one administrator who has left a number of incomplete changes, but they appear to have disengaged. Given that, I am focusing on what can reasonably be addressed without taking on additional cleanup beyond routine, shutting-things-down-type work. : There are some things the 'crats typically need to do and I've pinged them in some cases to close discussions such as requests for permissions. As we get closer to D-Day, if nothing is done, I'll close more things down myself if necessary. : Regarding the incorrectly flagged articles, one major issue is the absence of a documented procedure for retracting articles, particularly in relation to [[:Category:No publish]]. A practical short-term fix would be to include all retracted stories in that category, or alternatively disable the DPL as the project winds down (DPL would likely be disabled as part of the mothballing process anyway). : That approach would leave the record as-is, including its shortcomings. At minimum, it preserves a complete account of how these issues were or were not handled, which may be of value to anyone reviewing the project in the future.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:36, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} What's DPL? Thanks for what you are working on. If there is anything that non-admins can do to help, let us know. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:09, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::: DPL is [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)]]. It is used not only on the Newsroom page, but also on the main page and all infoboxes (and more). <br> Our use of it (or rather ru.WN's use) has some [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|history]]. We should have migrated off of it long ago. Part of me wonders if that factored in to the SPTF's decision to close Wikinews. <br> At any rate, it will no doubt be disabled, leaving an error on every page that uses it. I'm not sure how to change all of our infoboxes so that they still return something useful once DPL is disabled and the site is read-only. And there isn't enough of a community left to try to figure it out, either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:17, 12 April 2026 (UTC) == In anticipation of DPL being disabled == I've started working through [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] removing DPL and replacing it with static lists. It's time-consuming and I alone won't get through all infoboxes, before the project is marked read-only and DPL likely is disabled. All admin are encouraged to help. See the edit histories of the following as examples of how I do it: [[Template:2005 London bombing infobox]]<br> [[Template:2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict]]<br> [[Template:2006EuropeanChampionshipsAthletics]]<br> [[Template:2007 Iranian seizure of Royal Navy personnel]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei 101 Run Up]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei IT Month]] We'll need to do similar work on normal infoboxes, which are more complicated, as well as the Main page, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:40, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :I was going to suggest raw HTML or even [[:mw:subst:|subst:]] the templates. How were you doing it, Michael? Are you looking at the web page's code and copy/pasting the HTML? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 15:30, 12 April 2026 (UTC) ::Some of the infoboxes are not admin-protected, so I will help with replacing the DPL with static lists where I can. I just did that for [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:55, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :: Using subst might be a much better solution...[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link: [[:Category:Infoboxes]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:05, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have also done the following: :::[[Template:WDSC2007]]<br> :::[[Template:Tour de France 2007]] :::So I recommend that the admins focus on the protected templates and leave the unprotected templates for editors like me to handle. Each template takes only a few minutes to edit. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:07, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::: Much appreciated and I'll start focussing only on protected first.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:27, 13 April 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} Is there a reason not to keep using [[Template:Infosection]] in these infoboxes, rather than replacing it with <nowiki><div style="background: #bce1ff; color: #202122; padding: 2px; text-align: center; style; font-size: normal;">...</nowiki>? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:10, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **Also, I notice that the underlying articles linked from [[Template:WDSC2007]] are displaying the updated infobox (see [[2007 World Deaf Swimming Championships Day 5: A fantastic ending]], for example), but those from [[Template:Tour de France 2007]] and [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]] are not (see [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]], for example). I'm not sure what the difference is. (The updated infoboxes use the correct dates for the underlying articles, rather than dating everything 17 February 2025.) --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:42, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **: The 17 February 2025 date was the result of work we did with the license upgrade and is therefore going to be incorrect according to the publish date, unfortunately. As I've removed DPLs, I have not been adding a date. Just a bulleted list that I copied and pasted.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:25, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::I knew about the 17 February 2025 problem from before. My point was that if I edit the dates in the infobox to be the correct date instead of 17 February 2025, I expect that if the infobox is displayed on other articles, it should be the corrected infobox rather than the uncorrected version. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 12:54, 13 April 2026 (UTC) ** I don't know of any and you're right, it might be better to simply replace the DPL.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) == The Love of God == The truth that God is love is one of the most beautiful and powerful messages in the Bible. It shows not only who God is, but also how deeply He cares for every human being—including you. 1. God’s Nature Is Love The Bible does not just say that God has love—it says that God is love. 1 John 4:8 — “Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.” This means: Love is God’s character. Everything He does flows from love. His love is not temporary or changing—it is eternal. 2. God’s Love Is Unconditional God does not love us because we are perfect. He loves us even when we fail. Romans 5:8 — “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” This shows: God loved us before we loved Him. His love is not based on our behavior. His love is a gift, not something we earn. 3. God Showed His Love Through Jesus Christ The greatest proof of God’s love is the coming of Jesus Christ. John 3:16 — “For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.” Jesus came to: Save us from sin Restore our relationship with God Give us eternal life 1 John 4:9–10 — “This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him.” 4. God’s Love Is Sacrificial God’s love is not just words—it is action and sacrifice. John 15:13 — “Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.” Jesus died on the cross: To take our sins To give us forgiveness To bring us peace with God 5. God’s Love Is Everlasting God’s love never ends, no matter what happens. Jeremiah 31:3 — “I have loved you with an everlasting love; I have drawn you with unfailing kindness.” Romans 8:38–39 — “Nothing… will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” This means: God will never stop loving you. No situation can remove His love. His love is constant in every season of life. 6. God’s Love Changes Us When we understand God’s love, it transforms our hearts. 1 John 4:19 — “We love because He first loved us.” God’s love helps us: Love others Forgive people Live in peace Grow spiritually 7. God’s Love Is Personal God’s love is not just for the world—it is for you personally. Isaiah 43:4 — “You are precious and honored in my sight… and I love you.” He knows: Your name Your struggles Your heart And He still chooses to love you deeply. [[User:GLORION Gospel Ministry|GLORION Gospel Ministry]] ([[User talk:GLORION Gospel Ministry|talk]]) 13:08, 13 April 2026 (UTC) c4vqr4djpkevh0q105aguwr88dz3ujz 5007569 5007568 2026-04-13T13:08:57Z Lp0 on fire 2924700 Undid edits by [[Special:Contribs/GLORION Gospel Ministry|GLORION Gospel Ministry]] ([[User talk:GLORION Gospel Ministry|talk]]) to last version by Metropolitan90 5007569 wikitext text/x-wiki {{start tab |tab font-size =300% |link-1 =WN:Admin action alerts |tab-1 ='''Alerts''' |link-2 =WN:Admin action alerts/Requests |tab-2 ='''Requests''' |frame =no |border =2px solid #000 |off tab color = |on tab color = |rounding =0em |tab alignment =center }} {{/Header}} {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikinews:Admin action alerts/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(14d) |counter = 14 |maxarchivesize = 192K }} {{clear}} __NEWSECTIONLINK__ == ~2026-19034-96 == spamming nonsense Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} :Courtesy link (all edits are now deleted): [[Special:Contributions/~2026-19034-96]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:29, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Still blocked from responding to WN migration thread by bot attack filter == Hi folks, I and my fellow Miraheze representative (@RhinosF1) are still unable to respond to any inquiries on [[Wikinews_talk:Migration]], with any action taken now hitting the Abuse filter restriction labeled as Bot Attack Filter. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], giving you a heads up as our original report of the issue on the AAA board in Nov went unaddressed, that's why further communication on the matter from Miraheze folks got stalled. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 17:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that an admin should delete the filter due to a very high rate of false positives. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I've switched the filter to log-only for now. Seeing as the creator is not very active any more, I've boldly made the change. If this causes an issue, a local admin can feel free to revert me. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 18:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Thanks folks, that did the trick. Will add any pending replies. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == ~2026-19884-13 == * {{User|~2026-19884-13}} Spam. [[User: Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi!]] ([[User talk: Tenshi Hinanawi|Talk page]]) 09:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:14, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == {{User|Route 2026}} == {{User|Route 2026}} This username is similar to mine, but it has absolutely no connection to me. Furthermore, when this user created his/her user page, he/she sets it to redirect to my user page (not created), which I felt was an intentional attempt to cause confusion. I believe he/she should be blocked for using an inappropriate username.[[User:Route 2025|Route 2025]] ([[User talk:Route 2025|talk]]) 16:48, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} That is just weird. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:48, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Requesting unprotection == Hi, can you please unprotect my user page ([[User:Daniel]])? It has some sort of legacy protection that prevents me from editing it. Need to clean up. Thanks, [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 02:02, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:47, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ==Administrative matters for the closure== Could the admins check with the Foundation to find out what ''time'' on May 4 they intend to make Wikinews read-only? (I'm not saying that this information should necessarily be publicized, since someone might exploit it to sneak some self-promotion onto the site at the last minute. But the admins should know.) On a related note, could the admins make sure that the [[Wikinews:Newsroom|Newsroom]] is cleared out by the last day? The list of "Incorrectly flagged articles", for example, is baffling enough with Wikinews being active; we don't need to have them confuse people for the rest of the Internet's lifespan. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC) : {{tq|could the admins make sure that the Newsroom is cleared out by the last day}} : Yes. I am working through as much of the archival work as I can. At present, I am not aware of any other administrator undertaking similar efforts. I have reached out to one administrator who has left a number of incomplete changes, but they appear to have disengaged. Given that, I am focusing on what can reasonably be addressed without taking on additional cleanup beyond routine, shutting-things-down-type work. : There are some things the 'crats typically need to do and I've pinged them in some cases to close discussions such as requests for permissions. As we get closer to D-Day, if nothing is done, I'll close more things down myself if necessary. : Regarding the incorrectly flagged articles, one major issue is the absence of a documented procedure for retracting articles, particularly in relation to [[:Category:No publish]]. A practical short-term fix would be to include all retracted stories in that category, or alternatively disable the DPL as the project winds down (DPL would likely be disabled as part of the mothballing process anyway). : That approach would leave the record as-is, including its shortcomings. At minimum, it preserves a complete account of how these issues were or were not handled, which may be of value to anyone reviewing the project in the future.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:36, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} What's DPL? Thanks for what you are working on. If there is anything that non-admins can do to help, let us know. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:09, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::: DPL is [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)]]. It is used not only on the Newsroom page, but also on the main page and all infoboxes (and more). <br> Our use of it (or rather ru.WN's use) has some [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|history]]. We should have migrated off of it long ago. Part of me wonders if that factored in to the SPTF's decision to close Wikinews. <br> At any rate, it will no doubt be disabled, leaving an error on every page that uses it. I'm not sure how to change all of our infoboxes so that they still return something useful once DPL is disabled and the site is read-only. And there isn't enough of a community left to try to figure it out, either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:17, 12 April 2026 (UTC) == In anticipation of DPL being disabled == I've started working through [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] removing DPL and replacing it with static lists. It's time-consuming and I alone won't get through all infoboxes, before the project is marked read-only and DPL likely is disabled. All admin are encouraged to help. See the edit histories of the following as examples of how I do it: [[Template:2005 London bombing infobox]]<br> [[Template:2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict]]<br> [[Template:2006EuropeanChampionshipsAthletics]]<br> [[Template:2007 Iranian seizure of Royal Navy personnel]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei 101 Run Up]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei IT Month]] We'll need to do similar work on normal infoboxes, which are more complicated, as well as the Main page, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:40, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :I was going to suggest raw HTML or even [[:mw:subst:|subst:]] the templates. How were you doing it, Michael? Are you looking at the web page's code and copy/pasting the HTML? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 15:30, 12 April 2026 (UTC) ::Some of the infoboxes are not admin-protected, so I will help with replacing the DPL with static lists where I can. I just did that for [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:55, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :: Using subst might be a much better solution...[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link: [[:Category:Infoboxes]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:05, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have also done the following: :::[[Template:WDSC2007]]<br> :::[[Template:Tour de France 2007]] :::So I recommend that the admins focus on the protected templates and leave the unprotected templates for editors like me to handle. Each template takes only a few minutes to edit. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:07, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::: Much appreciated and I'll start focussing only on protected first.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:27, 13 April 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} Is there a reason not to keep using [[Template:Infosection]] in these infoboxes, rather than replacing it with <nowiki><div style="background: #bce1ff; color: #202122; padding: 2px; text-align: center; style; font-size: normal;">...</nowiki>? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:10, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **Also, I notice that the underlying articles linked from [[Template:WDSC2007]] are displaying the updated infobox (see [[2007 World Deaf Swimming Championships Day 5: A fantastic ending]], for example), but those from [[Template:Tour de France 2007]] and [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]] are not (see [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]], for example). I'm not sure what the difference is. (The updated infoboxes use the correct dates for the underlying articles, rather than dating everything 17 February 2025.) --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:42, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **: The 17 February 2025 date was the result of work we did with the license upgrade and is therefore going to be incorrect according to the publish date, unfortunately. As I've removed DPLs, I have not been adding a date. Just a bulleted list that I copied and pasted.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:25, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::I knew about the 17 February 2025 problem from before. My point was that if I edit the dates in the infobox to be the correct date instead of 17 February 2025, I expect that if the infobox is displayed on other articles, it should be the corrected infobox rather than the uncorrected version. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 12:54, 13 April 2026 (UTC) ** I don't know of any and you're right, it might be better to simply replace the DPL.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) rde7tn5v0ilj3kqxxwq2xg4xuggf2k4 5007573 5007569 2026-04-13T13:12:00Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* In anticipation of DPL being disabled */ reply to Metropolitan90 ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5007573 wikitext text/x-wiki {{start tab |tab font-size =300% |link-1 =WN:Admin action alerts |tab-1 ='''Alerts''' |link-2 =WN:Admin action alerts/Requests |tab-2 ='''Requests''' |frame =no |border =2px solid #000 |off tab color = |on tab color = |rounding =0em |tab alignment =center }} {{/Header}} {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikinews:Admin action alerts/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(14d) |counter = 14 |maxarchivesize = 192K }} {{clear}} __NEWSECTIONLINK__ == ~2026-19034-96 == spamming nonsense Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} :Courtesy link (all edits are now deleted): [[Special:Contributions/~2026-19034-96]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:29, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Still blocked from responding to WN migration thread by bot attack filter == Hi folks, I and my fellow Miraheze representative (@RhinosF1) are still unable to respond to any inquiries on [[Wikinews_talk:Migration]], with any action taken now hitting the Abuse filter restriction labeled as Bot Attack Filter. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], giving you a heads up as our original report of the issue on the AAA board in Nov went unaddressed, that's why further communication on the matter from Miraheze folks got stalled. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 17:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that an admin should delete the filter due to a very high rate of false positives. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I've switched the filter to log-only for now. Seeing as the creator is not very active any more, I've boldly made the change. If this causes an issue, a local admin can feel free to revert me. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 18:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Thanks folks, that did the trick. Will add any pending replies. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == ~2026-19884-13 == * {{User|~2026-19884-13}} Spam. [[User: Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi!]] ([[User talk: Tenshi Hinanawi|Talk page]]) 09:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:14, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == {{User|Route 2026}} == {{User|Route 2026}} This username is similar to mine, but it has absolutely no connection to me. Furthermore, when this user created his/her user page, he/she sets it to redirect to my user page (not created), which I felt was an intentional attempt to cause confusion. I believe he/she should be blocked for using an inappropriate username.[[User:Route 2025|Route 2025]] ([[User talk:Route 2025|talk]]) 16:48, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} That is just weird. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:48, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Requesting unprotection == Hi, can you please unprotect my user page ([[User:Daniel]])? It has some sort of legacy protection that prevents me from editing it. Need to clean up. Thanks, [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 02:02, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:47, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ==Administrative matters for the closure== Could the admins check with the Foundation to find out what ''time'' on May 4 they intend to make Wikinews read-only? (I'm not saying that this information should necessarily be publicized, since someone might exploit it to sneak some self-promotion onto the site at the last minute. But the admins should know.) On a related note, could the admins make sure that the [[Wikinews:Newsroom|Newsroom]] is cleared out by the last day? The list of "Incorrectly flagged articles", for example, is baffling enough with Wikinews being active; we don't need to have them confuse people for the rest of the Internet's lifespan. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC) : {{tq|could the admins make sure that the Newsroom is cleared out by the last day}} : Yes. I am working through as much of the archival work as I can. At present, I am not aware of any other administrator undertaking similar efforts. I have reached out to one administrator who has left a number of incomplete changes, but they appear to have disengaged. Given that, I am focusing on what can reasonably be addressed without taking on additional cleanup beyond routine, shutting-things-down-type work. : There are some things the 'crats typically need to do and I've pinged them in some cases to close discussions such as requests for permissions. As we get closer to D-Day, if nothing is done, I'll close more things down myself if necessary. : Regarding the incorrectly flagged articles, one major issue is the absence of a documented procedure for retracting articles, particularly in relation to [[:Category:No publish]]. A practical short-term fix would be to include all retracted stories in that category, or alternatively disable the DPL as the project winds down (DPL would likely be disabled as part of the mothballing process anyway). : That approach would leave the record as-is, including its shortcomings. At minimum, it preserves a complete account of how these issues were or were not handled, which may be of value to anyone reviewing the project in the future.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:36, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} What's DPL? Thanks for what you are working on. If there is anything that non-admins can do to help, let us know. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:09, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::: DPL is [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)]]. It is used not only on the Newsroom page, but also on the main page and all infoboxes (and more). <br> Our use of it (or rather ru.WN's use) has some [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|history]]. We should have migrated off of it long ago. Part of me wonders if that factored in to the SPTF's decision to close Wikinews. <br> At any rate, it will no doubt be disabled, leaving an error on every page that uses it. I'm not sure how to change all of our infoboxes so that they still return something useful once DPL is disabled and the site is read-only. And there isn't enough of a community left to try to figure it out, either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:17, 12 April 2026 (UTC) == In anticipation of DPL being disabled == I've started working through [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] removing DPL and replacing it with static lists. It's time-consuming and I alone won't get through all infoboxes, before the project is marked read-only and DPL likely is disabled. All admin are encouraged to help. See the edit histories of the following as examples of how I do it: [[Template:2005 London bombing infobox]]<br> [[Template:2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict]]<br> [[Template:2006EuropeanChampionshipsAthletics]]<br> [[Template:2007 Iranian seizure of Royal Navy personnel]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei 101 Run Up]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei IT Month]] We'll need to do similar work on normal infoboxes, which are more complicated, as well as the Main page, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:40, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :I was going to suggest raw HTML or even [[:mw:subst:|subst:]] the templates. How were you doing it, Michael? Are you looking at the web page's code and copy/pasting the HTML? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 15:30, 12 April 2026 (UTC) ::Some of the infoboxes are not admin-protected, so I will help with replacing the DPL with static lists where I can. I just did that for [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:55, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :: Using subst might be a much better solution...[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link: [[:Category:Infoboxes]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:05, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have also done the following: :::[[Template:WDSC2007]]<br> :::[[Template:Tour de France 2007]] :::So I recommend that the admins focus on the protected templates and leave the unprotected templates for editors like me to handle. Each template takes only a few minutes to edit. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:07, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::: Much appreciated and I'll start focussing only on protected first.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:27, 13 April 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} Is there a reason not to keep using [[Template:Infosection]] in these infoboxes, rather than replacing it with <nowiki><div style="background: #bce1ff; color: #202122; padding: 2px; text-align: center; style; font-size: normal;">...</nowiki>? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:10, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **Also, I notice that the underlying articles linked from [[Template:WDSC2007]] are displaying the updated infobox (see [[2007 World Deaf Swimming Championships Day 5: A fantastic ending]], for example), but those from [[Template:Tour de France 2007]] and [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]] are not (see [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]], for example). I'm not sure what the difference is. (The updated infoboxes use the correct dates for the underlying articles, rather than dating everything 17 February 2025.) --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:42, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **: The 17 February 2025 date was the result of work we did with the license upgrade and is therefore going to be incorrect according to the publish date, unfortunately. As I've removed DPLs, I have not been adding a date. Just a bulleted list that I copied and pasted.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:25, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::I knew about the 17 February 2025 problem from before. My point was that if I edit the dates in the infobox to be the correct date instead of 17 February 2025, I expect that if the infobox is displayed on other articles, it should be the corrected infobox rather than the uncorrected version. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 12:54, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::: Ahh, sorry. I read it wrong. ::::: I just tested and do see that some of the changes aren't propagating as expected. I tested with [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]] and tried to purge that page using <code>?action=purge</code> on the end of the URL and that didn't pull in the changes. However, when I used <code><nowiki>{{subst:Tour de France 2007}}</nowiki></code> at that article, it did indeed pull in the changes. So I imagine (hope?) that we can carry on and eventually the changes will propagate. I have seen in the past, notably when I created categories such as [[:Category:Peer reviewed/Passed (exception)/Michael.C.Wright]], that it took days for the categories to be populated as expected. ::::: Unless of course someone else knows what's going on under the hood and knows a better approach.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:12, 13 April 2026 (UTC) ** I don't know of any and you're right, it might be better to simply replace the DPL.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) ml4eek9ffdq3n0ta1q41b080rmo6x7p 5007641 5007573 2026-04-13T15:49:18Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* In anticipation of DPL being disabled */ reply ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5007641 wikitext text/x-wiki {{start tab |tab font-size =300% |link-1 =WN:Admin action alerts |tab-1 ='''Alerts''' |link-2 =WN:Admin action alerts/Requests |tab-2 ='''Requests''' |frame =no |border =2px solid #000 |off tab color = |on tab color = |rounding =0em |tab alignment =center }} {{/Header}} {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikinews:Admin action alerts/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(14d) |counter = 14 |maxarchivesize = 192K }} {{clear}} __NEWSECTIONLINK__ == ~2026-19034-96 == spamming nonsense Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} :Courtesy link (all edits are now deleted): [[Special:Contributions/~2026-19034-96]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:29, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Still blocked from responding to WN migration thread by bot attack filter == Hi folks, I and my fellow Miraheze representative (@RhinosF1) are still unable to respond to any inquiries on [[Wikinews_talk:Migration]], with any action taken now hitting the Abuse filter restriction labeled as Bot Attack Filter. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], giving you a heads up as our original report of the issue on the AAA board in Nov went unaddressed, that's why further communication on the matter from Miraheze folks got stalled. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 17:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that an admin should delete the filter due to a very high rate of false positives. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I've switched the filter to log-only for now. Seeing as the creator is not very active any more, I've boldly made the change. If this causes an issue, a local admin can feel free to revert me. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 18:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Thanks folks, that did the trick. Will add any pending replies. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == ~2026-19884-13 == * {{User|~2026-19884-13}} Spam. [[User: Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi!]] ([[User talk: Tenshi Hinanawi|Talk page]]) 09:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:14, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == {{User|Route 2026}} == {{User|Route 2026}} This username is similar to mine, but it has absolutely no connection to me. Furthermore, when this user created his/her user page, he/she sets it to redirect to my user page (not created), which I felt was an intentional attempt to cause confusion. I believe he/she should be blocked for using an inappropriate username.[[User:Route 2025|Route 2025]] ([[User talk:Route 2025|talk]]) 16:48, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} That is just weird. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:48, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Requesting unprotection == Hi, can you please unprotect my user page ([[User:Daniel]])? It has some sort of legacy protection that prevents me from editing it. Need to clean up. Thanks, [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 02:02, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:47, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ==Administrative matters for the closure== Could the admins check with the Foundation to find out what ''time'' on May 4 they intend to make Wikinews read-only? (I'm not saying that this information should necessarily be publicized, since someone might exploit it to sneak some self-promotion onto the site at the last minute. But the admins should know.) On a related note, could the admins make sure that the [[Wikinews:Newsroom|Newsroom]] is cleared out by the last day? The list of "Incorrectly flagged articles", for example, is baffling enough with Wikinews being active; we don't need to have them confuse people for the rest of the Internet's lifespan. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC) : {{tq|could the admins make sure that the Newsroom is cleared out by the last day}} : Yes. I am working through as much of the archival work as I can. At present, I am not aware of any other administrator undertaking similar efforts. I have reached out to one administrator who has left a number of incomplete changes, but they appear to have disengaged. Given that, I am focusing on what can reasonably be addressed without taking on additional cleanup beyond routine, shutting-things-down-type work. : There are some things the 'crats typically need to do and I've pinged them in some cases to close discussions such as requests for permissions. As we get closer to D-Day, if nothing is done, I'll close more things down myself if necessary. : Regarding the incorrectly flagged articles, one major issue is the absence of a documented procedure for retracting articles, particularly in relation to [[:Category:No publish]]. A practical short-term fix would be to include all retracted stories in that category, or alternatively disable the DPL as the project winds down (DPL would likely be disabled as part of the mothballing process anyway). : That approach would leave the record as-is, including its shortcomings. At minimum, it preserves a complete account of how these issues were or were not handled, which may be of value to anyone reviewing the project in the future.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:36, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} What's DPL? Thanks for what you are working on. If there is anything that non-admins can do to help, let us know. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:09, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::: DPL is [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)]]. It is used not only on the Newsroom page, but also on the main page and all infoboxes (and more). <br> Our use of it (or rather ru.WN's use) has some [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|history]]. We should have migrated off of it long ago. Part of me wonders if that factored in to the SPTF's decision to close Wikinews. <br> At any rate, it will no doubt be disabled, leaving an error on every page that uses it. I'm not sure how to change all of our infoboxes so that they still return something useful once DPL is disabled and the site is read-only. And there isn't enough of a community left to try to figure it out, either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:17, 12 April 2026 (UTC) == In anticipation of DPL being disabled == I've started working through [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] removing DPL and replacing it with static lists. It's time-consuming and I alone won't get through all infoboxes, before the project is marked read-only and DPL likely is disabled. All admin are encouraged to help. See the edit histories of the following as examples of how I do it: [[Template:2005 London bombing infobox]]<br> [[Template:2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict]]<br> [[Template:2006EuropeanChampionshipsAthletics]]<br> [[Template:2007 Iranian seizure of Royal Navy personnel]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei 101 Run Up]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei IT Month]] We'll need to do similar work on normal infoboxes, which are more complicated, as well as the Main page, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:40, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :I was going to suggest raw HTML or even [[:mw:subst:|subst:]] the templates. How were you doing it, Michael? Are you looking at the web page's code and copy/pasting the HTML? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 15:30, 12 April 2026 (UTC) ::Some of the infoboxes are not admin-protected, so I will help with replacing the DPL with static lists where I can. I just did that for [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:55, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :: Using subst might be a much better solution...[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link: [[:Category:Infoboxes]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:05, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have also done the following: :::[[Template:WDSC2007]]<br> :::[[Template:Tour de France 2007]] :::So I recommend that the admins focus on the protected templates and leave the unprotected templates for editors like me to handle. Each template takes only a few minutes to edit. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:07, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::: Much appreciated and I'll start focussing only on protected first.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:27, 13 April 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} Is there a reason not to keep using [[Template:Infosection]] in these infoboxes, rather than replacing it with <nowiki><div style="background: #bce1ff; color: #202122; padding: 2px; text-align: center; style; font-size: normal;">...</nowiki>? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:10, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **Also, I notice that the underlying articles linked from [[Template:WDSC2007]] are displaying the updated infobox (see [[2007 World Deaf Swimming Championships Day 5: A fantastic ending]], for example), but those from [[Template:Tour de France 2007]] and [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]] are not (see [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]], for example). I'm not sure what the difference is. (The updated infoboxes use the correct dates for the underlying articles, rather than dating everything 17 February 2025.) --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:42, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **: The 17 February 2025 date was the result of work we did with the license upgrade and is therefore going to be incorrect according to the publish date, unfortunately. As I've removed DPLs, I have not been adding a date. Just a bulleted list that I copied and pasted.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:25, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::I knew about the 17 February 2025 problem from before. My point was that if I edit the dates in the infobox to be the correct date instead of 17 February 2025, I expect that if the infobox is displayed on other articles, it should be the corrected infobox rather than the uncorrected version. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 12:54, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::: Ahh, sorry. I read it wrong. ::::: I just tested and do see that some of the changes aren't propagating as expected. I tested with [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]] and tried to purge that page using <code>?action=purge</code> on the end of the URL and that didn't pull in the changes. However, when I used <code><nowiki>{{subst:Tour de France 2007}}</nowiki></code> at that article, it did indeed pull in the changes. So I imagine (hope?) that we can carry on and eventually the changes will propagate. I have seen in the past, notably when I created categories such as [[:Category:Peer reviewed/Passed (exception)/Michael.C.Wright]], that it took days for the categories to be populated as expected. ::::: Unless of course someone else knows what's going on under the hood and knows a better approach.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:12, 13 April 2026 (UTC) ** I don't know of any and you're right, it might be better to simply replace the DPL.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) * I believe all that is left in [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] are infoboxes that call {{tl|Infobox}}, which utilizes [[:Template:Infobox/p2]] to generate DPLs. If someone has any ideas on how to tackle that, it would be a huge help in reducing the number of pages using DPL. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) : === State infoboxes ===<br> I am now rebuilding [[:Category:State infoboxes]] to be static. See the following, completed examples: : :* [[:Template:Alabama]] :* [[:Template:Alaska]] : : I'm working in alphabetical order. Feel free to start at the bottom and work upwards if you'd like to lend a hand. The first two were fully protected, so this may be a job only for admins, unfortunately.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) c6edq4se40gsztp3u49clrsmrztdtvs 5007642 5007641 2026-04-13T15:50:34Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* In anticipation of DPL being disabled */ I'm not sure how to add section headers in a CD comment. Fixing manually... 5007642 wikitext text/x-wiki {{start tab |tab font-size =300% |link-1 =WN:Admin action alerts |tab-1 ='''Alerts''' |link-2 =WN:Admin action alerts/Requests |tab-2 ='''Requests''' |frame =no |border =2px solid #000 |off tab color = |on tab color = |rounding =0em |tab alignment =center }} {{/Header}} {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikinews:Admin action alerts/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(14d) |counter = 14 |maxarchivesize = 192K }} {{clear}} __NEWSECTIONLINK__ == ~2026-19034-96 == spamming nonsense Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} :Courtesy link (all edits are now deleted): [[Special:Contributions/~2026-19034-96]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:29, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Still blocked from responding to WN migration thread by bot attack filter == Hi folks, I and my fellow Miraheze representative (@RhinosF1) are still unable to respond to any inquiries on [[Wikinews_talk:Migration]], with any action taken now hitting the Abuse filter restriction labeled as Bot Attack Filter. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], giving you a heads up as our original report of the issue on the AAA board in Nov went unaddressed, that's why further communication on the matter from Miraheze folks got stalled. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 17:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that an admin should delete the filter due to a very high rate of false positives. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I've switched the filter to log-only for now. Seeing as the creator is not very active any more, I've boldly made the change. If this causes an issue, a local admin can feel free to revert me. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 18:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Thanks folks, that did the trick. Will add any pending replies. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == ~2026-19884-13 == * {{User|~2026-19884-13}} Spam. [[User: Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi!]] ([[User talk: Tenshi Hinanawi|Talk page]]) 09:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:14, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == {{User|Route 2026}} == {{User|Route 2026}} This username is similar to mine, but it has absolutely no connection to me. Furthermore, when this user created his/her user page, he/she sets it to redirect to my user page (not created), which I felt was an intentional attempt to cause confusion. I believe he/she should be blocked for using an inappropriate username.[[User:Route 2025|Route 2025]] ([[User talk:Route 2025|talk]]) 16:48, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} That is just weird. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:48, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Requesting unprotection == Hi, can you please unprotect my user page ([[User:Daniel]])? It has some sort of legacy protection that prevents me from editing it. Need to clean up. Thanks, [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 02:02, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:47, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ==Administrative matters for the closure== Could the admins check with the Foundation to find out what ''time'' on May 4 they intend to make Wikinews read-only? (I'm not saying that this information should necessarily be publicized, since someone might exploit it to sneak some self-promotion onto the site at the last minute. But the admins should know.) On a related note, could the admins make sure that the [[Wikinews:Newsroom|Newsroom]] is cleared out by the last day? The list of "Incorrectly flagged articles", for example, is baffling enough with Wikinews being active; we don't need to have them confuse people for the rest of the Internet's lifespan. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC) : {{tq|could the admins make sure that the Newsroom is cleared out by the last day}} : Yes. I am working through as much of the archival work as I can. At present, I am not aware of any other administrator undertaking similar efforts. I have reached out to one administrator who has left a number of incomplete changes, but they appear to have disengaged. Given that, I am focusing on what can reasonably be addressed without taking on additional cleanup beyond routine, shutting-things-down-type work. : There are some things the 'crats typically need to do and I've pinged them in some cases to close discussions such as requests for permissions. As we get closer to D-Day, if nothing is done, I'll close more things down myself if necessary. : Regarding the incorrectly flagged articles, one major issue is the absence of a documented procedure for retracting articles, particularly in relation to [[:Category:No publish]]. A practical short-term fix would be to include all retracted stories in that category, or alternatively disable the DPL as the project winds down (DPL would likely be disabled as part of the mothballing process anyway). : That approach would leave the record as-is, including its shortcomings. At minimum, it preserves a complete account of how these issues were or were not handled, which may be of value to anyone reviewing the project in the future.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:36, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} What's DPL? Thanks for what you are working on. If there is anything that non-admins can do to help, let us know. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:09, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::: DPL is [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)]]. It is used not only on the Newsroom page, but also on the main page and all infoboxes (and more). <br> Our use of it (or rather ru.WN's use) has some [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|history]]. We should have migrated off of it long ago. Part of me wonders if that factored in to the SPTF's decision to close Wikinews. <br> At any rate, it will no doubt be disabled, leaving an error on every page that uses it. I'm not sure how to change all of our infoboxes so that they still return something useful once DPL is disabled and the site is read-only. And there isn't enough of a community left to try to figure it out, either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:17, 12 April 2026 (UTC) == In anticipation of DPL being disabled == I've started working through [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] removing DPL and replacing it with static lists. It's time-consuming and I alone won't get through all infoboxes, before the project is marked read-only and DPL likely is disabled. All admin are encouraged to help. See the edit histories of the following as examples of how I do it: [[Template:2005 London bombing infobox]]<br> [[Template:2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict]]<br> [[Template:2006EuropeanChampionshipsAthletics]]<br> [[Template:2007 Iranian seizure of Royal Navy personnel]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei 101 Run Up]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei IT Month]] We'll need to do similar work on normal infoboxes, which are more complicated, as well as the Main page, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:40, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :I was going to suggest raw HTML or even [[:mw:subst:|subst:]] the templates. How were you doing it, Michael? Are you looking at the web page's code and copy/pasting the HTML? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 15:30, 12 April 2026 (UTC) ::Some of the infoboxes are not admin-protected, so I will help with replacing the DPL with static lists where I can. I just did that for [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:55, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :: Using subst might be a much better solution...[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link: [[:Category:Infoboxes]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:05, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have also done the following: :::[[Template:WDSC2007]]<br> :::[[Template:Tour de France 2007]] :::So I recommend that the admins focus on the protected templates and leave the unprotected templates for editors like me to handle. Each template takes only a few minutes to edit. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:07, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::: Much appreciated and I'll start focussing only on protected first.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:27, 13 April 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} Is there a reason not to keep using [[Template:Infosection]] in these infoboxes, rather than replacing it with <nowiki><div style="background: #bce1ff; color: #202122; padding: 2px; text-align: center; style; font-size: normal;">...</nowiki>? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:10, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **Also, I notice that the underlying articles linked from [[Template:WDSC2007]] are displaying the updated infobox (see [[2007 World Deaf Swimming Championships Day 5: A fantastic ending]], for example), but those from [[Template:Tour de France 2007]] and [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]] are not (see [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]], for example). I'm not sure what the difference is. (The updated infoboxes use the correct dates for the underlying articles, rather than dating everything 17 February 2025.) --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:42, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **: The 17 February 2025 date was the result of work we did with the license upgrade and is therefore going to be incorrect according to the publish date, unfortunately. As I've removed DPLs, I have not been adding a date. Just a bulleted list that I copied and pasted.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:25, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::I knew about the 17 February 2025 problem from before. My point was that if I edit the dates in the infobox to be the correct date instead of 17 February 2025, I expect that if the infobox is displayed on other articles, it should be the corrected infobox rather than the uncorrected version. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 12:54, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::: Ahh, sorry. I read it wrong. ::::: I just tested and do see that some of the changes aren't propagating as expected. I tested with [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]] and tried to purge that page using <code>?action=purge</code> on the end of the URL and that didn't pull in the changes. However, when I used <code><nowiki>{{subst:Tour de France 2007}}</nowiki></code> at that article, it did indeed pull in the changes. So I imagine (hope?) that we can carry on and eventually the changes will propagate. I have seen in the past, notably when I created categories such as [[:Category:Peer reviewed/Passed (exception)/Michael.C.Wright]], that it took days for the categories to be populated as expected. ::::: Unless of course someone else knows what's going on under the hood and knows a better approach.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:12, 13 April 2026 (UTC) ** I don't know of any and you're right, it might be better to simply replace the DPL.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) * I believe all that is left in [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] are infoboxes that call {{tl|Infobox}}, which utilizes [[:Template:Infobox/p2]] to generate DPLs. If someone has any ideas on how to tackle that, it would be a huge help in reducing the number of pages using DPL. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) === State infoboxes === I am now rebuilding [[:Category:State infoboxes]] to be static. See the following, completed examples: * [[:Template:Alabama]] * [[:Template:Alaska]] I'm working in alphabetical order. Feel free to start at the bottom and work upwards if you'd like to lend a hand. The first two were fully protected, so this may be a job only for admins, unfortunately.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) jedzn8osxhauio31pyp0khwbomutvn7 5007708 5007642 2026-04-13T16:55:15Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* State infoboxes */ reply ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5007708 wikitext text/x-wiki {{start tab |tab font-size =300% |link-1 =WN:Admin action alerts |tab-1 ='''Alerts''' |link-2 =WN:Admin action alerts/Requests |tab-2 ='''Requests''' |frame =no |border =2px solid #000 |off tab color = |on tab color = |rounding =0em |tab alignment =center }} {{/Header}} {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikinews:Admin action alerts/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(14d) |counter = 14 |maxarchivesize = 192K }} {{clear}} __NEWSECTIONLINK__ == ~2026-19034-96 == spamming nonsense Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} :Courtesy link (all edits are now deleted): [[Special:Contributions/~2026-19034-96]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:29, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Still blocked from responding to WN migration thread by bot attack filter == Hi folks, I and my fellow Miraheze representative (@RhinosF1) are still unable to respond to any inquiries on [[Wikinews_talk:Migration]], with any action taken now hitting the Abuse filter restriction labeled as Bot Attack Filter. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], giving you a heads up as our original report of the issue on the AAA board in Nov went unaddressed, that's why further communication on the matter from Miraheze folks got stalled. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 17:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that an admin should delete the filter due to a very high rate of false positives. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I've switched the filter to log-only for now. Seeing as the creator is not very active any more, I've boldly made the change. If this causes an issue, a local admin can feel free to revert me. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 18:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Thanks folks, that did the trick. Will add any pending replies. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == ~2026-19884-13 == * {{User|~2026-19884-13}} Spam. [[User: Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi!]] ([[User talk: Tenshi Hinanawi|Talk page]]) 09:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:14, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == {{User|Route 2026}} == {{User|Route 2026}} This username is similar to mine, but it has absolutely no connection to me. Furthermore, when this user created his/her user page, he/she sets it to redirect to my user page (not created), which I felt was an intentional attempt to cause confusion. I believe he/she should be blocked for using an inappropriate username.[[User:Route 2025|Route 2025]] ([[User talk:Route 2025|talk]]) 16:48, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} That is just weird. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:48, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Requesting unprotection == Hi, can you please unprotect my user page ([[User:Daniel]])? It has some sort of legacy protection that prevents me from editing it. Need to clean up. Thanks, [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 02:02, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:47, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ==Administrative matters for the closure== Could the admins check with the Foundation to find out what ''time'' on May 4 they intend to make Wikinews read-only? (I'm not saying that this information should necessarily be publicized, since someone might exploit it to sneak some self-promotion onto the site at the last minute. But the admins should know.) On a related note, could the admins make sure that the [[Wikinews:Newsroom|Newsroom]] is cleared out by the last day? The list of "Incorrectly flagged articles", for example, is baffling enough with Wikinews being active; we don't need to have them confuse people for the rest of the Internet's lifespan. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC) : {{tq|could the admins make sure that the Newsroom is cleared out by the last day}} : Yes. I am working through as much of the archival work as I can. At present, I am not aware of any other administrator undertaking similar efforts. I have reached out to one administrator who has left a number of incomplete changes, but they appear to have disengaged. Given that, I am focusing on what can reasonably be addressed without taking on additional cleanup beyond routine, shutting-things-down-type work. : There are some things the 'crats typically need to do and I've pinged them in some cases to close discussions such as requests for permissions. As we get closer to D-Day, if nothing is done, I'll close more things down myself if necessary. : Regarding the incorrectly flagged articles, one major issue is the absence of a documented procedure for retracting articles, particularly in relation to [[:Category:No publish]]. A practical short-term fix would be to include all retracted stories in that category, or alternatively disable the DPL as the project winds down (DPL would likely be disabled as part of the mothballing process anyway). : That approach would leave the record as-is, including its shortcomings. At minimum, it preserves a complete account of how these issues were or were not handled, which may be of value to anyone reviewing the project in the future.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:36, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} What's DPL? Thanks for what you are working on. If there is anything that non-admins can do to help, let us know. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:09, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::: DPL is [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)]]. It is used not only on the Newsroom page, but also on the main page and all infoboxes (and more). <br> Our use of it (or rather ru.WN's use) has some [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|history]]. We should have migrated off of it long ago. Part of me wonders if that factored in to the SPTF's decision to close Wikinews. <br> At any rate, it will no doubt be disabled, leaving an error on every page that uses it. I'm not sure how to change all of our infoboxes so that they still return something useful once DPL is disabled and the site is read-only. And there isn't enough of a community left to try to figure it out, either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:17, 12 April 2026 (UTC) == In anticipation of DPL being disabled == I've started working through [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] removing DPL and replacing it with static lists. It's time-consuming and I alone won't get through all infoboxes, before the project is marked read-only and DPL likely is disabled. All admin are encouraged to help. See the edit histories of the following as examples of how I do it: [[Template:2005 London bombing infobox]]<br> [[Template:2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict]]<br> [[Template:2006EuropeanChampionshipsAthletics]]<br> [[Template:2007 Iranian seizure of Royal Navy personnel]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei 101 Run Up]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei IT Month]] We'll need to do similar work on normal infoboxes, which are more complicated, as well as the Main page, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:40, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :I was going to suggest raw HTML or even [[:mw:subst:|subst:]] the templates. How were you doing it, Michael? Are you looking at the web page's code and copy/pasting the HTML? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 15:30, 12 April 2026 (UTC) ::Some of the infoboxes are not admin-protected, so I will help with replacing the DPL with static lists where I can. I just did that for [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:55, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :: Using subst might be a much better solution...[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link: [[:Category:Infoboxes]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:05, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have also done the following: :::[[Template:WDSC2007]]<br> :::[[Template:Tour de France 2007]] :::So I recommend that the admins focus on the protected templates and leave the unprotected templates for editors like me to handle. Each template takes only a few minutes to edit. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:07, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::: Much appreciated and I'll start focussing only on protected first.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:27, 13 April 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} Is there a reason not to keep using [[Template:Infosection]] in these infoboxes, rather than replacing it with <nowiki><div style="background: #bce1ff; color: #202122; padding: 2px; text-align: center; style; font-size: normal;">...</nowiki>? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:10, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **Also, I notice that the underlying articles linked from [[Template:WDSC2007]] are displaying the updated infobox (see [[2007 World Deaf Swimming Championships Day 5: A fantastic ending]], for example), but those from [[Template:Tour de France 2007]] and [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]] are not (see [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]], for example). I'm not sure what the difference is. (The updated infoboxes use the correct dates for the underlying articles, rather than dating everything 17 February 2025.) --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:42, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **: The 17 February 2025 date was the result of work we did with the license upgrade and is therefore going to be incorrect according to the publish date, unfortunately. As I've removed DPLs, I have not been adding a date. Just a bulleted list that I copied and pasted.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:25, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::I knew about the 17 February 2025 problem from before. My point was that if I edit the dates in the infobox to be the correct date instead of 17 February 2025, I expect that if the infobox is displayed on other articles, it should be the corrected infobox rather than the uncorrected version. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 12:54, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::: Ahh, sorry. I read it wrong. ::::: I just tested and do see that some of the changes aren't propagating as expected. I tested with [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]] and tried to purge that page using <code>?action=purge</code> on the end of the URL and that didn't pull in the changes. However, when I used <code><nowiki>{{subst:Tour de France 2007}}</nowiki></code> at that article, it did indeed pull in the changes. So I imagine (hope?) that we can carry on and eventually the changes will propagate. I have seen in the past, notably when I created categories such as [[:Category:Peer reviewed/Passed (exception)/Michael.C.Wright]], that it took days for the categories to be populated as expected. ::::: Unless of course someone else knows what's going on under the hood and knows a better approach.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:12, 13 April 2026 (UTC) ** I don't know of any and you're right, it might be better to simply replace the DPL.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) * I believe all that is left in [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] are infoboxes that call {{tl|Infobox}}, which utilizes [[:Template:Infobox/p2]] to generate DPLs. If someone has any ideas on how to tackle that, it would be a huge help in reducing the number of pages using DPL. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) === State infoboxes === I am now rebuilding [[:Category:State infoboxes]] to be static. See the following, completed examples: * [[:Template:Alabama]] * [[:Template:Alaska]] I'm working in alphabetical order. Feel free to start at the bottom and work upwards if you'd like to lend a hand. The first two were fully protected, so this may be a job only for admins, unfortunately.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) : {{done}} The states infoboxes are now converted from DPL to static[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:55, 13 April 2026 (UTC) f4cuzd7jeyxlf0eiqdmg8e9q91cd0rv 5007714 5007708 2026-04-13T17:10:36Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* State infoboxes */ started country infoboxes 5007714 wikitext text/x-wiki {{start tab |tab font-size =300% |link-1 =WN:Admin action alerts |tab-1 ='''Alerts''' |link-2 =WN:Admin action alerts/Requests |tab-2 ='''Requests''' |frame =no |border =2px solid #000 |off tab color = |on tab color = |rounding =0em |tab alignment =center }} {{/Header}} {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikinews:Admin action alerts/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(14d) |counter = 14 |maxarchivesize = 192K }} {{clear}} __NEWSECTIONLINK__ == ~2026-19034-96 == spamming nonsense Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} :Courtesy link (all edits are now deleted): [[Special:Contributions/~2026-19034-96]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:29, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Still blocked from responding to WN migration thread by bot attack filter == Hi folks, I and my fellow Miraheze representative (@RhinosF1) are still unable to respond to any inquiries on [[Wikinews_talk:Migration]], with any action taken now hitting the Abuse filter restriction labeled as Bot Attack Filter. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], giving you a heads up as our original report of the issue on the AAA board in Nov went unaddressed, that's why further communication on the matter from Miraheze folks got stalled. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 17:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that an admin should delete the filter due to a very high rate of false positives. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I've switched the filter to log-only for now. Seeing as the creator is not very active any more, I've boldly made the change. If this causes an issue, a local admin can feel free to revert me. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 18:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Thanks folks, that did the trick. Will add any pending replies. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == ~2026-19884-13 == * {{User|~2026-19884-13}} Spam. [[User: Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi!]] ([[User talk: Tenshi Hinanawi|Talk page]]) 09:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:14, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == {{User|Route 2026}} == {{User|Route 2026}} This username is similar to mine, but it has absolutely no connection to me. Furthermore, when this user created his/her user page, he/she sets it to redirect to my user page (not created), which I felt was an intentional attempt to cause confusion. I believe he/she should be blocked for using an inappropriate username.[[User:Route 2025|Route 2025]] ([[User talk:Route 2025|talk]]) 16:48, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} That is just weird. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:48, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Requesting unprotection == Hi, can you please unprotect my user page ([[User:Daniel]])? It has some sort of legacy protection that prevents me from editing it. Need to clean up. Thanks, [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 02:02, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:47, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ==Administrative matters for the closure== Could the admins check with the Foundation to find out what ''time'' on May 4 they intend to make Wikinews read-only? (I'm not saying that this information should necessarily be publicized, since someone might exploit it to sneak some self-promotion onto the site at the last minute. But the admins should know.) On a related note, could the admins make sure that the [[Wikinews:Newsroom|Newsroom]] is cleared out by the last day? The list of "Incorrectly flagged articles", for example, is baffling enough with Wikinews being active; we don't need to have them confuse people for the rest of the Internet's lifespan. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC) : {{tq|could the admins make sure that the Newsroom is cleared out by the last day}} : Yes. I am working through as much of the archival work as I can. At present, I am not aware of any other administrator undertaking similar efforts. I have reached out to one administrator who has left a number of incomplete changes, but they appear to have disengaged. Given that, I am focusing on what can reasonably be addressed without taking on additional cleanup beyond routine, shutting-things-down-type work. : There are some things the 'crats typically need to do and I've pinged them in some cases to close discussions such as requests for permissions. As we get closer to D-Day, if nothing is done, I'll close more things down myself if necessary. : Regarding the incorrectly flagged articles, one major issue is the absence of a documented procedure for retracting articles, particularly in relation to [[:Category:No publish]]. A practical short-term fix would be to include all retracted stories in that category, or alternatively disable the DPL as the project winds down (DPL would likely be disabled as part of the mothballing process anyway). : That approach would leave the record as-is, including its shortcomings. At minimum, it preserves a complete account of how these issues were or were not handled, which may be of value to anyone reviewing the project in the future.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:36, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} What's DPL? Thanks for what you are working on. If there is anything that non-admins can do to help, let us know. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:09, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::: DPL is [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)]]. It is used not only on the Newsroom page, but also on the main page and all infoboxes (and more). <br> Our use of it (or rather ru.WN's use) has some [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|history]]. We should have migrated off of it long ago. Part of me wonders if that factored in to the SPTF's decision to close Wikinews. <br> At any rate, it will no doubt be disabled, leaving an error on every page that uses it. I'm not sure how to change all of our infoboxes so that they still return something useful once DPL is disabled and the site is read-only. And there isn't enough of a community left to try to figure it out, either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:17, 12 April 2026 (UTC) == In anticipation of DPL being disabled == I've started working through [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] removing DPL and replacing it with static lists. It's time-consuming and I alone won't get through all infoboxes, before the project is marked read-only and DPL likely is disabled. All admin are encouraged to help. See the edit histories of the following as examples of how I do it: [[Template:2005 London bombing infobox]]<br> [[Template:2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict]]<br> [[Template:2006EuropeanChampionshipsAthletics]]<br> [[Template:2007 Iranian seizure of Royal Navy personnel]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei 101 Run Up]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei IT Month]] We'll need to do similar work on normal infoboxes, which are more complicated, as well as the Main page, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:40, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :I was going to suggest raw HTML or even [[:mw:subst:|subst:]] the templates. How were you doing it, Michael? Are you looking at the web page's code and copy/pasting the HTML? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 15:30, 12 April 2026 (UTC) ::Some of the infoboxes are not admin-protected, so I will help with replacing the DPL with static lists where I can. I just did that for [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:55, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :: Using subst might be a much better solution...[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link: [[:Category:Infoboxes]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:05, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have also done the following: :::[[Template:WDSC2007]]<br> :::[[Template:Tour de France 2007]] :::So I recommend that the admins focus on the protected templates and leave the unprotected templates for editors like me to handle. Each template takes only a few minutes to edit. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:07, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::: Much appreciated and I'll start focussing only on protected first.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:27, 13 April 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} Is there a reason not to keep using [[Template:Infosection]] in these infoboxes, rather than replacing it with <nowiki><div style="background: #bce1ff; color: #202122; padding: 2px; text-align: center; style; font-size: normal;">...</nowiki>? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:10, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **Also, I notice that the underlying articles linked from [[Template:WDSC2007]] are displaying the updated infobox (see [[2007 World Deaf Swimming Championships Day 5: A fantastic ending]], for example), but those from [[Template:Tour de France 2007]] and [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]] are not (see [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]], for example). I'm not sure what the difference is. (The updated infoboxes use the correct dates for the underlying articles, rather than dating everything 17 February 2025.) --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:42, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **: The 17 February 2025 date was the result of work we did with the license upgrade and is therefore going to be incorrect according to the publish date, unfortunately. As I've removed DPLs, I have not been adding a date. Just a bulleted list that I copied and pasted.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:25, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::I knew about the 17 February 2025 problem from before. My point was that if I edit the dates in the infobox to be the correct date instead of 17 February 2025, I expect that if the infobox is displayed on other articles, it should be the corrected infobox rather than the uncorrected version. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 12:54, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::: Ahh, sorry. I read it wrong. ::::: I just tested and do see that some of the changes aren't propagating as expected. I tested with [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]] and tried to purge that page using <code>?action=purge</code> on the end of the URL and that didn't pull in the changes. However, when I used <code><nowiki>{{subst:Tour de France 2007}}</nowiki></code> at that article, it did indeed pull in the changes. So I imagine (hope?) that we can carry on and eventually the changes will propagate. I have seen in the past, notably when I created categories such as [[:Category:Peer reviewed/Passed (exception)/Michael.C.Wright]], that it took days for the categories to be populated as expected. ::::: Unless of course someone else knows what's going on under the hood and knows a better approach.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:12, 13 April 2026 (UTC) ** I don't know of any and you're right, it might be better to simply replace the DPL.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) * I believe all that is left in [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] are infoboxes that call {{tl|Infobox}}, which utilizes [[:Template:Infobox/p2]] to generate DPLs. If someone has any ideas on how to tackle that, it would be a huge help in reducing the number of pages using DPL. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) === State infoboxes === I am now rebuilding [[:Category:State infoboxes]] to be static. See the following, completed examples: * [[:Template:Alabama]] * [[:Template:Alaska]] I'm working in alphabetical order. Feel free to start at the bottom and work upwards if you'd like to lend a hand. The first two were fully protected, so this may be a job only for admins, unfortunately.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) : {{done}} The states infoboxes are now converted from DPL to static[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:55, 13 April 2026 (UTC) === Country Infoboxes === I am now rebuilding [[:Category:Country infoboxes]] to be static, following the same process as done for State infoboxes. See the following, completed examples: * [[:Template:Afghanistan]] * [[:Template:Albania]] One was protected, one was not. Feel free to jump in where you can. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:10, 13 April 2026 (UTC) 3ikw39qlc76xft3zsbc69m5tne7pz6j 5007722 5007714 2026-04-13T17:19:52Z Koavf 5879 /* In anticipation of DPL being disabled */ 5007722 wikitext text/x-wiki {{start tab |tab font-size =300% |link-1 =WN:Admin action alerts |tab-1 ='''Alerts''' |link-2 =WN:Admin action alerts/Requests |tab-2 ='''Requests''' |frame =no |border =2px solid #000 |off tab color = |on tab color = |rounding =0em |tab alignment =center }} {{/Header}} {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikinews:Admin action alerts/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(14d) |counter = 14 |maxarchivesize = 192K }} {{clear}} __NEWSECTIONLINK__ == ~2026-19034-96 == spamming nonsense Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} :Courtesy link (all edits are now deleted): [[Special:Contributions/~2026-19034-96]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:29, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Still blocked from responding to WN migration thread by bot attack filter == Hi folks, I and my fellow Miraheze representative (@RhinosF1) are still unable to respond to any inquiries on [[Wikinews_talk:Migration]], with any action taken now hitting the Abuse filter restriction labeled as Bot Attack Filter. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], giving you a heads up as our original report of the issue on the AAA board in Nov went unaddressed, that's why further communication on the matter from Miraheze folks got stalled. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 17:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that an admin should delete the filter due to a very high rate of false positives. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I've switched the filter to log-only for now. Seeing as the creator is not very active any more, I've boldly made the change. If this causes an issue, a local admin can feel free to revert me. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 18:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Thanks folks, that did the trick. Will add any pending replies. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == ~2026-19884-13 == * {{User|~2026-19884-13}} Spam. [[User: Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi!]] ([[User talk: Tenshi Hinanawi|Talk page]]) 09:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:14, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == {{User|Route 2026}} == {{User|Route 2026}} This username is similar to mine, but it has absolutely no connection to me. Furthermore, when this user created his/her user page, he/she sets it to redirect to my user page (not created), which I felt was an intentional attempt to cause confusion. I believe he/she should be blocked for using an inappropriate username.[[User:Route 2025|Route 2025]] ([[User talk:Route 2025|talk]]) 16:48, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} That is just weird. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:48, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Requesting unprotection == Hi, can you please unprotect my user page ([[User:Daniel]])? It has some sort of legacy protection that prevents me from editing it. Need to clean up. Thanks, [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 02:02, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:47, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ==Administrative matters for the closure== Could the admins check with the Foundation to find out what ''time'' on May 4 they intend to make Wikinews read-only? (I'm not saying that this information should necessarily be publicized, since someone might exploit it to sneak some self-promotion onto the site at the last minute. But the admins should know.) On a related note, could the admins make sure that the [[Wikinews:Newsroom|Newsroom]] is cleared out by the last day? The list of "Incorrectly flagged articles", for example, is baffling enough with Wikinews being active; we don't need to have them confuse people for the rest of the Internet's lifespan. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC) : {{tq|could the admins make sure that the Newsroom is cleared out by the last day}} : Yes. I am working through as much of the archival work as I can. At present, I am not aware of any other administrator undertaking similar efforts. I have reached out to one administrator who has left a number of incomplete changes, but they appear to have disengaged. Given that, I am focusing on what can reasonably be addressed without taking on additional cleanup beyond routine, shutting-things-down-type work. : There are some things the 'crats typically need to do and I've pinged them in some cases to close discussions such as requests for permissions. As we get closer to D-Day, if nothing is done, I'll close more things down myself if necessary. : Regarding the incorrectly flagged articles, one major issue is the absence of a documented procedure for retracting articles, particularly in relation to [[:Category:No publish]]. A practical short-term fix would be to include all retracted stories in that category, or alternatively disable the DPL as the project winds down (DPL would likely be disabled as part of the mothballing process anyway). : That approach would leave the record as-is, including its shortcomings. At minimum, it preserves a complete account of how these issues were or were not handled, which may be of value to anyone reviewing the project in the future.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:36, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} What's DPL? Thanks for what you are working on. If there is anything that non-admins can do to help, let us know. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:09, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::: DPL is [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)]]. It is used not only on the Newsroom page, but also on the main page and all infoboxes (and more). <br> Our use of it (or rather ru.WN's use) has some [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|history]]. We should have migrated off of it long ago. Part of me wonders if that factored in to the SPTF's decision to close Wikinews. <br> At any rate, it will no doubt be disabled, leaving an error on every page that uses it. I'm not sure how to change all of our infoboxes so that they still return something useful once DPL is disabled and the site is read-only. And there isn't enough of a community left to try to figure it out, either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:17, 12 April 2026 (UTC) == In anticipation of DPL being disabled == I've started working through [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] removing DPL and replacing it with static lists. It's time-consuming and I alone won't get through all infoboxes, before the project is marked read-only and DPL likely is disabled. All admin are encouraged to help. See the edit histories of the following as examples of how I do it: [[Template:2005 London bombing infobox]]<br> [[Template:2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict]]<br> [[Template:2006EuropeanChampionshipsAthletics]]<br> [[Template:2007 Iranian seizure of Royal Navy personnel]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei 101 Run Up]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei IT Month]] We'll need to do similar work on normal infoboxes, which are more complicated, as well as the Main page, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:40, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :I was going to suggest raw HTML or even [[:mw:subst:|subst:]] the templates. How were you doing it, Michael? Are you looking at the web page's code and copy/pasting the HTML? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 15:30, 12 April 2026 (UTC) ::Some of the infoboxes are not admin-protected, so I will help with replacing the DPL with static lists where I can. I just did that for [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:55, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :: Using subst might be a much better solution...[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link: [[:Category:Infoboxes]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:05, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have also done the following: :::[[Template:WDSC2007]]<br> :::[[Template:Tour de France 2007]] :::So I recommend that the admins focus on the protected templates and leave the unprotected templates for editors like me to handle. Each template takes only a few minutes to edit. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:07, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::: Much appreciated and I'll start focussing only on protected first.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:27, 13 April 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} Is there a reason not to keep using [[Template:Infosection]] in these infoboxes, rather than replacing it with <nowiki><div style="background: #bce1ff; color: #202122; padding: 2px; text-align: center; style; font-size: normal;">...</nowiki>? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:10, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **Also, I notice that the underlying articles linked from [[Template:WDSC2007]] are displaying the updated infobox (see [[2007 World Deaf Swimming Championships Day 5: A fantastic ending]], for example), but those from [[Template:Tour de France 2007]] and [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]] are not (see [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]], for example). I'm not sure what the difference is. (The updated infoboxes use the correct dates for the underlying articles, rather than dating everything 17 February 2025.) --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:42, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **: The 17 February 2025 date was the result of work we did with the license upgrade and is therefore going to be incorrect according to the publish date, unfortunately. As I've removed DPLs, I have not been adding a date. Just a bulleted list that I copied and pasted.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:25, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::I knew about the 17 February 2025 problem from before. My point was that if I edit the dates in the infobox to be the correct date instead of 17 February 2025, I expect that if the infobox is displayed on other articles, it should be the corrected infobox rather than the uncorrected version. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 12:54, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::: Ahh, sorry. I read it wrong. ::::: I just tested and do see that some of the changes aren't propagating as expected. I tested with [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]] and tried to purge that page using <code>?action=purge</code> on the end of the URL and that didn't pull in the changes. However, when I used <code><nowiki>{{subst:Tour de France 2007}}</nowiki></code> at that article, it did indeed pull in the changes. So I imagine (hope?) that we can carry on and eventually the changes will propagate. I have seen in the past, notably when I created categories such as [[:Category:Peer reviewed/Passed (exception)/Michael.C.Wright]], that it took days for the categories to be populated as expected. ::::: Unless of course someone else knows what's going on under the hood and knows a better approach.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:12, 13 April 2026 (UTC) ** I don't know of any and you're right, it might be better to simply replace the DPL.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) * I believe all that is left in [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] are infoboxes that call {{tl|Infobox}}, which utilizes [[:Template:Infobox/p2]] to generate DPLs. If someone has any ideas on how to tackle that, it would be a huge help in reducing the number of pages using DPL. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link to all pages using DPL (note that pages in the main and category namespaces have it transcluded from a template): [[:Category:Pages using the DynamicPageList extension]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 17:19, 13 April 2026 (UTC) === State infoboxes === I am now rebuilding [[:Category:State infoboxes]] to be static. See the following, completed examples: * [[:Template:Alabama]] * [[:Template:Alaska]] I'm working in alphabetical order. Feel free to start at the bottom and work upwards if you'd like to lend a hand. The first two were fully protected, so this may be a job only for admins, unfortunately.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) : {{done}} The states infoboxes are now converted from DPL to static[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:55, 13 April 2026 (UTC) === Country Infoboxes === I am now rebuilding [[:Category:Country infoboxes]] to be static, following the same process as done for State infoboxes. See the following, completed examples: * [[:Template:Afghanistan]] * [[:Template:Albania]] One was protected, one was not. Feel free to jump in where you can. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:10, 13 April 2026 (UTC) oeqiy0pdj73x6jhrpba7u27xbxq23q7 5007740 5007722 2026-04-13T18:02:21Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* Country Infoboxes */ reply ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5007740 wikitext text/x-wiki {{start tab |tab font-size =300% |link-1 =WN:Admin action alerts |tab-1 ='''Alerts''' |link-2 =WN:Admin action alerts/Requests |tab-2 ='''Requests''' |frame =no |border =2px solid #000 |off tab color = |on tab color = |rounding =0em |tab alignment =center }} {{/Header}} {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikinews:Admin action alerts/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(14d) |counter = 14 |maxarchivesize = 192K }} {{clear}} __NEWSECTIONLINK__ == ~2026-19034-96 == spamming nonsense Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} :Courtesy link (all edits are now deleted): [[Special:Contributions/~2026-19034-96]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:29, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Still blocked from responding to WN migration thread by bot attack filter == Hi folks, I and my fellow Miraheze representative (@RhinosF1) are still unable to respond to any inquiries on [[Wikinews_talk:Migration]], with any action taken now hitting the Abuse filter restriction labeled as Bot Attack Filter. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], giving you a heads up as our original report of the issue on the AAA board in Nov went unaddressed, that's why further communication on the matter from Miraheze folks got stalled. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 17:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that an admin should delete the filter due to a very high rate of false positives. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I've switched the filter to log-only for now. Seeing as the creator is not very active any more, I've boldly made the change. If this causes an issue, a local admin can feel free to revert me. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 18:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Thanks folks, that did the trick. Will add any pending replies. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == ~2026-19884-13 == * {{User|~2026-19884-13}} Spam. [[User: Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi!]] ([[User talk: Tenshi Hinanawi|Talk page]]) 09:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:14, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == {{User|Route 2026}} == {{User|Route 2026}} This username is similar to mine, but it has absolutely no connection to me. Furthermore, when this user created his/her user page, he/she sets it to redirect to my user page (not created), which I felt was an intentional attempt to cause confusion. I believe he/she should be blocked for using an inappropriate username.[[User:Route 2025|Route 2025]] ([[User talk:Route 2025|talk]]) 16:48, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} That is just weird. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:48, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Requesting unprotection == Hi, can you please unprotect my user page ([[User:Daniel]])? It has some sort of legacy protection that prevents me from editing it. Need to clean up. Thanks, [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 02:02, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:47, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ==Administrative matters for the closure== Could the admins check with the Foundation to find out what ''time'' on May 4 they intend to make Wikinews read-only? (I'm not saying that this information should necessarily be publicized, since someone might exploit it to sneak some self-promotion onto the site at the last minute. But the admins should know.) On a related note, could the admins make sure that the [[Wikinews:Newsroom|Newsroom]] is cleared out by the last day? The list of "Incorrectly flagged articles", for example, is baffling enough with Wikinews being active; we don't need to have them confuse people for the rest of the Internet's lifespan. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC) : {{tq|could the admins make sure that the Newsroom is cleared out by the last day}} : Yes. I am working through as much of the archival work as I can. At present, I am not aware of any other administrator undertaking similar efforts. I have reached out to one administrator who has left a number of incomplete changes, but they appear to have disengaged. Given that, I am focusing on what can reasonably be addressed without taking on additional cleanup beyond routine, shutting-things-down-type work. : There are some things the 'crats typically need to do and I've pinged them in some cases to close discussions such as requests for permissions. As we get closer to D-Day, if nothing is done, I'll close more things down myself if necessary. : Regarding the incorrectly flagged articles, one major issue is the absence of a documented procedure for retracting articles, particularly in relation to [[:Category:No publish]]. A practical short-term fix would be to include all retracted stories in that category, or alternatively disable the DPL as the project winds down (DPL would likely be disabled as part of the mothballing process anyway). : That approach would leave the record as-is, including its shortcomings. At minimum, it preserves a complete account of how these issues were or were not handled, which may be of value to anyone reviewing the project in the future.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:36, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} What's DPL? Thanks for what you are working on. If there is anything that non-admins can do to help, let us know. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:09, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::: DPL is [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)]]. It is used not only on the Newsroom page, but also on the main page and all infoboxes (and more). <br> Our use of it (or rather ru.WN's use) has some [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|history]]. We should have migrated off of it long ago. Part of me wonders if that factored in to the SPTF's decision to close Wikinews. <br> At any rate, it will no doubt be disabled, leaving an error on every page that uses it. I'm not sure how to change all of our infoboxes so that they still return something useful once DPL is disabled and the site is read-only. And there isn't enough of a community left to try to figure it out, either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:17, 12 April 2026 (UTC) == In anticipation of DPL being disabled == I've started working through [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] removing DPL and replacing it with static lists. It's time-consuming and I alone won't get through all infoboxes, before the project is marked read-only and DPL likely is disabled. All admin are encouraged to help. See the edit histories of the following as examples of how I do it: [[Template:2005 London bombing infobox]]<br> [[Template:2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict]]<br> [[Template:2006EuropeanChampionshipsAthletics]]<br> [[Template:2007 Iranian seizure of Royal Navy personnel]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei 101 Run Up]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei IT Month]] We'll need to do similar work on normal infoboxes, which are more complicated, as well as the Main page, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:40, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :I was going to suggest raw HTML or even [[:mw:subst:|subst:]] the templates. How were you doing it, Michael? Are you looking at the web page's code and copy/pasting the HTML? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 15:30, 12 April 2026 (UTC) ::Some of the infoboxes are not admin-protected, so I will help with replacing the DPL with static lists where I can. I just did that for [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:55, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :: Using subst might be a much better solution...[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link: [[:Category:Infoboxes]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:05, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have also done the following: :::[[Template:WDSC2007]]<br> :::[[Template:Tour de France 2007]] :::So I recommend that the admins focus on the protected templates and leave the unprotected templates for editors like me to handle. Each template takes only a few minutes to edit. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:07, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::: Much appreciated and I'll start focussing only on protected first.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:27, 13 April 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} Is there a reason not to keep using [[Template:Infosection]] in these infoboxes, rather than replacing it with <nowiki><div style="background: #bce1ff; color: #202122; padding: 2px; text-align: center; style; font-size: normal;">...</nowiki>? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:10, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **Also, I notice that the underlying articles linked from [[Template:WDSC2007]] are displaying the updated infobox (see [[2007 World Deaf Swimming Championships Day 5: A fantastic ending]], for example), but those from [[Template:Tour de France 2007]] and [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]] are not (see [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]], for example). I'm not sure what the difference is. (The updated infoboxes use the correct dates for the underlying articles, rather than dating everything 17 February 2025.) --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:42, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **: The 17 February 2025 date was the result of work we did with the license upgrade and is therefore going to be incorrect according to the publish date, unfortunately. As I've removed DPLs, I have not been adding a date. Just a bulleted list that I copied and pasted.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:25, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::I knew about the 17 February 2025 problem from before. My point was that if I edit the dates in the infobox to be the correct date instead of 17 February 2025, I expect that if the infobox is displayed on other articles, it should be the corrected infobox rather than the uncorrected version. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 12:54, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::: Ahh, sorry. I read it wrong. ::::: I just tested and do see that some of the changes aren't propagating as expected. I tested with [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]] and tried to purge that page using <code>?action=purge</code> on the end of the URL and that didn't pull in the changes. However, when I used <code><nowiki>{{subst:Tour de France 2007}}</nowiki></code> at that article, it did indeed pull in the changes. So I imagine (hope?) that we can carry on and eventually the changes will propagate. I have seen in the past, notably when I created categories such as [[:Category:Peer reviewed/Passed (exception)/Michael.C.Wright]], that it took days for the categories to be populated as expected. ::::: Unless of course someone else knows what's going on under the hood and knows a better approach.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:12, 13 April 2026 (UTC) ** I don't know of any and you're right, it might be better to simply replace the DPL.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) * I believe all that is left in [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] are infoboxes that call {{tl|Infobox}}, which utilizes [[:Template:Infobox/p2]] to generate DPLs. If someone has any ideas on how to tackle that, it would be a huge help in reducing the number of pages using DPL. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link to all pages using DPL (note that pages in the main and category namespaces have it transcluded from a template): [[:Category:Pages using the DynamicPageList extension]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 17:19, 13 April 2026 (UTC) === State infoboxes === I am now rebuilding [[:Category:State infoboxes]] to be static. See the following, completed examples: * [[:Template:Alabama]] * [[:Template:Alaska]] I'm working in alphabetical order. Feel free to start at the bottom and work upwards if you'd like to lend a hand. The first two were fully protected, so this may be a job only for admins, unfortunately.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) : {{done}} The states infoboxes are now converted from DPL to static[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:55, 13 April 2026 (UTC) === Country Infoboxes === I am now rebuilding [[:Category:Country infoboxes]] to be static, following the same process as done for State infoboxes. See the following, completed examples: * [[:Template:Afghanistan]] * [[:Template:Albania]] One was protected, one was not. Feel free to jump in where you can. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:10, 13 April 2026 (UTC) : Infoboxes in sections J, K, and L of [[:Category:Country infoboxes]] are completed. I'll continue down the list from M later today or tomorrow (Pacific Time), unless someone else gets there first.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:02, 13 April 2026 (UTC) enhpygm6a1crqqm92u0gsqap1nzk2ex 5007765 5007740 2026-04-13T19:16:46Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* In anticipation of DPL being disabled */ reply to Koavf ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5007765 wikitext text/x-wiki {{start tab |tab font-size =300% |link-1 =WN:Admin action alerts |tab-1 ='''Alerts''' |link-2 =WN:Admin action alerts/Requests |tab-2 ='''Requests''' |frame =no |border =2px solid #000 |off tab color = |on tab color = |rounding =0em |tab alignment =center }} {{/Header}} {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikinews:Admin action alerts/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(14d) |counter = 14 |maxarchivesize = 192K }} {{clear}} __NEWSECTIONLINK__ == ~2026-19034-96 == spamming nonsense Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} :Courtesy link (all edits are now deleted): [[Special:Contributions/~2026-19034-96]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:29, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Still blocked from responding to WN migration thread by bot attack filter == Hi folks, I and my fellow Miraheze representative (@RhinosF1) are still unable to respond to any inquiries on [[Wikinews_talk:Migration]], with any action taken now hitting the Abuse filter restriction labeled as Bot Attack Filter. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], giving you a heads up as our original report of the issue on the AAA board in Nov went unaddressed, that's why further communication on the matter from Miraheze folks got stalled. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 17:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that an admin should delete the filter due to a very high rate of false positives. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I've switched the filter to log-only for now. Seeing as the creator is not very active any more, I've boldly made the change. If this causes an issue, a local admin can feel free to revert me. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 18:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Thanks folks, that did the trick. Will add any pending replies. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == ~2026-19884-13 == * {{User|~2026-19884-13}} Spam. [[User: Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi!]] ([[User talk: Tenshi Hinanawi|Talk page]]) 09:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:14, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == {{User|Route 2026}} == {{User|Route 2026}} This username is similar to mine, but it has absolutely no connection to me. Furthermore, when this user created his/her user page, he/she sets it to redirect to my user page (not created), which I felt was an intentional attempt to cause confusion. I believe he/she should be blocked for using an inappropriate username.[[User:Route 2025|Route 2025]] ([[User talk:Route 2025|talk]]) 16:48, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} That is just weird. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:48, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Requesting unprotection == Hi, can you please unprotect my user page ([[User:Daniel]])? It has some sort of legacy protection that prevents me from editing it. Need to clean up. Thanks, [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 02:02, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:47, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ==Administrative matters for the closure== Could the admins check with the Foundation to find out what ''time'' on May 4 they intend to make Wikinews read-only? (I'm not saying that this information should necessarily be publicized, since someone might exploit it to sneak some self-promotion onto the site at the last minute. But the admins should know.) On a related note, could the admins make sure that the [[Wikinews:Newsroom|Newsroom]] is cleared out by the last day? The list of "Incorrectly flagged articles", for example, is baffling enough with Wikinews being active; we don't need to have them confuse people for the rest of the Internet's lifespan. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC) : {{tq|could the admins make sure that the Newsroom is cleared out by the last day}} : Yes. I am working through as much of the archival work as I can. At present, I am not aware of any other administrator undertaking similar efforts. I have reached out to one administrator who has left a number of incomplete changes, but they appear to have disengaged. Given that, I am focusing on what can reasonably be addressed without taking on additional cleanup beyond routine, shutting-things-down-type work. : There are some things the 'crats typically need to do and I've pinged them in some cases to close discussions such as requests for permissions. As we get closer to D-Day, if nothing is done, I'll close more things down myself if necessary. : Regarding the incorrectly flagged articles, one major issue is the absence of a documented procedure for retracting articles, particularly in relation to [[:Category:No publish]]. A practical short-term fix would be to include all retracted stories in that category, or alternatively disable the DPL as the project winds down (DPL would likely be disabled as part of the mothballing process anyway). : That approach would leave the record as-is, including its shortcomings. At minimum, it preserves a complete account of how these issues were or were not handled, which may be of value to anyone reviewing the project in the future.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:36, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} What's DPL? Thanks for what you are working on. If there is anything that non-admins can do to help, let us know. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:09, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::: DPL is [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)]]. It is used not only on the Newsroom page, but also on the main page and all infoboxes (and more). <br> Our use of it (or rather ru.WN's use) has some [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|history]]. We should have migrated off of it long ago. Part of me wonders if that factored in to the SPTF's decision to close Wikinews. <br> At any rate, it will no doubt be disabled, leaving an error on every page that uses it. I'm not sure how to change all of our infoboxes so that they still return something useful once DPL is disabled and the site is read-only. And there isn't enough of a community left to try to figure it out, either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:17, 12 April 2026 (UTC) == In anticipation of DPL being disabled == I've started working through [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] removing DPL and replacing it with static lists. It's time-consuming and I alone won't get through all infoboxes, before the project is marked read-only and DPL likely is disabled. All admin are encouraged to help. See the edit histories of the following as examples of how I do it: [[Template:2005 London bombing infobox]]<br> [[Template:2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict]]<br> [[Template:2006EuropeanChampionshipsAthletics]]<br> [[Template:2007 Iranian seizure of Royal Navy personnel]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei 101 Run Up]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei IT Month]] We'll need to do similar work on normal infoboxes, which are more complicated, as well as the Main page, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:40, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :I was going to suggest raw HTML or even [[:mw:subst:|subst:]] the templates. How were you doing it, Michael? Are you looking at the web page's code and copy/pasting the HTML? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 15:30, 12 April 2026 (UTC) ::Some of the infoboxes are not admin-protected, so I will help with replacing the DPL with static lists where I can. I just did that for [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:55, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :: Using subst might be a much better solution...[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :: {{tq|Are you looking at the web page's code and copy/pasting the HTML?}} :: Yes, that is essentially what I'm doing. Several categories of infoboxes are 'cookie-cutter' in that they are set up the same. For example, most of the [[:Category:Country infoboxes]] are set up the same, so it's relatively easy to rebuild them slightly and copy/paste the DPL output as a static list using wikitext. I linked to two examples [[#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260413171000-Country_Infoboxes|below]] and have since done several in the same manner. It is more pragmatic than ideal, and better alternatives are welcome. :: We still have roughly {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Pages using the DynamicPageList extension}} pages using DPL—most of them are likely articles with infoboxes that use DPL. So there is less work than actually having to touch that many individual pages.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:16, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link: [[:Category:Infoboxes]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:05, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have also done the following: :::[[Template:WDSC2007]]<br> :::[[Template:Tour de France 2007]] :::So I recommend that the admins focus on the protected templates and leave the unprotected templates for editors like me to handle. Each template takes only a few minutes to edit. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:07, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::: Much appreciated and I'll start focussing only on protected first.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:27, 13 April 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} Is there a reason not to keep using [[Template:Infosection]] in these infoboxes, rather than replacing it with <nowiki><div style="background: #bce1ff; color: #202122; padding: 2px; text-align: center; style; font-size: normal;">...</nowiki>? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:10, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **Also, I notice that the underlying articles linked from [[Template:WDSC2007]] are displaying the updated infobox (see [[2007 World Deaf Swimming Championships Day 5: A fantastic ending]], for example), but those from [[Template:Tour de France 2007]] and [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]] are not (see [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]], for example). I'm not sure what the difference is. (The updated infoboxes use the correct dates for the underlying articles, rather than dating everything 17 February 2025.) --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:42, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **: The 17 February 2025 date was the result of work we did with the license upgrade and is therefore going to be incorrect according to the publish date, unfortunately. As I've removed DPLs, I have not been adding a date. Just a bulleted list that I copied and pasted.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:25, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::I knew about the 17 February 2025 problem from before. My point was that if I edit the dates in the infobox to be the correct date instead of 17 February 2025, I expect that if the infobox is displayed on other articles, it should be the corrected infobox rather than the uncorrected version. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 12:54, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::: Ahh, sorry. I read it wrong. ::::: I just tested and do see that some of the changes aren't propagating as expected. I tested with [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]] and tried to purge that page using <code>?action=purge</code> on the end of the URL and that didn't pull in the changes. However, when I used <code><nowiki>{{subst:Tour de France 2007}}</nowiki></code> at that article, it did indeed pull in the changes. So I imagine (hope?) that we can carry on and eventually the changes will propagate. I have seen in the past, notably when I created categories such as [[:Category:Peer reviewed/Passed (exception)/Michael.C.Wright]], that it took days for the categories to be populated as expected. ::::: Unless of course someone else knows what's going on under the hood and knows a better approach.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:12, 13 April 2026 (UTC) ** I don't know of any and you're right, it might be better to simply replace the DPL.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) * I believe all that is left in [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] are infoboxes that call {{tl|Infobox}}, which utilizes [[:Template:Infobox/p2]] to generate DPLs. If someone has any ideas on how to tackle that, it would be a huge help in reducing the number of pages using DPL. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link to all pages using DPL (note that pages in the main and category namespaces have it transcluded from a template): [[:Category:Pages using the DynamicPageList extension]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 17:19, 13 April 2026 (UTC) === State infoboxes === I am now rebuilding [[:Category:State infoboxes]] to be static. See the following, completed examples: * [[:Template:Alabama]] * [[:Template:Alaska]] I'm working in alphabetical order. Feel free to start at the bottom and work upwards if you'd like to lend a hand. The first two were fully protected, so this may be a job only for admins, unfortunately.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) : {{done}} The states infoboxes are now converted from DPL to static[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:55, 13 April 2026 (UTC) === Country Infoboxes === I am now rebuilding [[:Category:Country infoboxes]] to be static, following the same process as done for State infoboxes. See the following, completed examples: * [[:Template:Afghanistan]] * [[:Template:Albania]] One was protected, one was not. Feel free to jump in where you can. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:10, 13 April 2026 (UTC) : Infoboxes in sections J, K, and L of [[:Category:Country infoboxes]] are completed. I'll continue down the list from M later today or tomorrow (Pacific Time), unless someone else gets there first.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:02, 13 April 2026 (UTC) hb4mrbg5h19wdd4hn07iu8xh7yp5s9i 5007794 5007765 2026-04-13T21:28:16Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* Country Infoboxes */ reply ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5007794 wikitext text/x-wiki {{start tab |tab font-size =300% |link-1 =WN:Admin action alerts |tab-1 ='''Alerts''' |link-2 =WN:Admin action alerts/Requests |tab-2 ='''Requests''' |frame =no |border =2px solid #000 |off tab color = |on tab color = |rounding =0em |tab alignment =center }} {{/Header}} {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikinews:Admin action alerts/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(14d) |counter = 14 |maxarchivesize = 192K }} {{clear}} __NEWSECTIONLINK__ == ~2026-19034-96 == spamming nonsense Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 16:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} :Courtesy link (all edits are now deleted): [[Special:Contributions/~2026-19034-96]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:29, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Still blocked from responding to WN migration thread by bot attack filter == Hi folks, I and my fellow Miraheze representative (@RhinosF1) are still unable to respond to any inquiries on [[Wikinews_talk:Migration]], with any action taken now hitting the Abuse filter restriction labeled as Bot Attack Filter. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], giving you a heads up as our original report of the issue on the AAA board in Nov went unaddressed, that's why further communication on the matter from Miraheze folks got stalled. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 17:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that an admin should delete the filter due to a very high rate of false positives. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :I've switched the filter to log-only for now. Seeing as the creator is not very active any more, I've boldly made the change. If this causes an issue, a local admin can feel free to revert me. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 18:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Thanks folks, that did the trick. Will add any pending replies. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == ~2026-19884-13 == * {{User|~2026-19884-13}} Spam. [[User: Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi!]] ([[User talk: Tenshi Hinanawi|Talk page]]) 09:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:14, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == {{User|Route 2026}} == {{User|Route 2026}} This username is similar to mine, but it has absolutely no connection to me. Furthermore, when this user created his/her user page, he/she sets it to redirect to my user page (not created), which I felt was an intentional attempt to cause confusion. I believe he/she should be blocked for using an inappropriate username.[[User:Route 2025|Route 2025]] ([[User talk:Route 2025|talk]]) 16:48, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} That is just weird. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:48, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Requesting unprotection == Hi, can you please unprotect my user page ([[User:Daniel]])? It has some sort of legacy protection that prevents me from editing it. Need to clean up. Thanks, [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 02:02, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:47, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ==Administrative matters for the closure== Could the admins check with the Foundation to find out what ''time'' on May 4 they intend to make Wikinews read-only? (I'm not saying that this information should necessarily be publicized, since someone might exploit it to sneak some self-promotion onto the site at the last minute. But the admins should know.) On a related note, could the admins make sure that the [[Wikinews:Newsroom|Newsroom]] is cleared out by the last day? The list of "Incorrectly flagged articles", for example, is baffling enough with Wikinews being active; we don't need to have them confuse people for the rest of the Internet's lifespan. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC) : {{tq|could the admins make sure that the Newsroom is cleared out by the last day}} : Yes. I am working through as much of the archival work as I can. At present, I am not aware of any other administrator undertaking similar efforts. I have reached out to one administrator who has left a number of incomplete changes, but they appear to have disengaged. Given that, I am focusing on what can reasonably be addressed without taking on additional cleanup beyond routine, shutting-things-down-type work. : There are some things the 'crats typically need to do and I've pinged them in some cases to close discussions such as requests for permissions. As we get closer to D-Day, if nothing is done, I'll close more things down myself if necessary. : Regarding the incorrectly flagged articles, one major issue is the absence of a documented procedure for retracting articles, particularly in relation to [[:Category:No publish]]. A practical short-term fix would be to include all retracted stories in that category, or alternatively disable the DPL as the project winds down (DPL would likely be disabled as part of the mothballing process anyway). : That approach would leave the record as-is, including its shortcomings. At minimum, it preserves a complete account of how these issues were or were not handled, which may be of value to anyone reviewing the project in the future.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:36, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} What's DPL? Thanks for what you are working on. If there is anything that non-admins can do to help, let us know. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:09, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::: DPL is [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)]]. It is used not only on the Newsroom page, but also on the main page and all infoboxes (and more). <br> Our use of it (or rather ru.WN's use) has some [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|history]]. We should have migrated off of it long ago. Part of me wonders if that factored in to the SPTF's decision to close Wikinews. <br> At any rate, it will no doubt be disabled, leaving an error on every page that uses it. I'm not sure how to change all of our infoboxes so that they still return something useful once DPL is disabled and the site is read-only. And there isn't enough of a community left to try to figure it out, either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:17, 12 April 2026 (UTC) == In anticipation of DPL being disabled == I've started working through [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] removing DPL and replacing it with static lists. It's time-consuming and I alone won't get through all infoboxes, before the project is marked read-only and DPL likely is disabled. All admin are encouraged to help. See the edit histories of the following as examples of how I do it: [[Template:2005 London bombing infobox]]<br> [[Template:2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict]]<br> [[Template:2006EuropeanChampionshipsAthletics]]<br> [[Template:2007 Iranian seizure of Royal Navy personnel]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei 101 Run Up]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei IT Month]] We'll need to do similar work on normal infoboxes, which are more complicated, as well as the Main page, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:40, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :I was going to suggest raw HTML or even [[:mw:subst:|subst:]] the templates. How were you doing it, Michael? Are you looking at the web page's code and copy/pasting the HTML? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 15:30, 12 April 2026 (UTC) ::Some of the infoboxes are not admin-protected, so I will help with replacing the DPL with static lists where I can. I just did that for [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:55, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :: Using subst might be a much better solution...[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :: {{tq|Are you looking at the web page's code and copy/pasting the HTML?}} :: Yes, that is essentially what I'm doing. Several categories of infoboxes are 'cookie-cutter' in that they are set up the same. For example, most of the [[:Category:Country infoboxes]] are set up the same, so it's relatively easy to rebuild them slightly and copy/paste the DPL output as a static list using wikitext. I linked to two examples [[#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260413171000-Country_Infoboxes|below]] and have since done several in the same manner. It is more pragmatic than ideal, and better alternatives are welcome. :: We still have roughly {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Pages using the DynamicPageList extension}} pages using DPL—most of them are likely articles with infoboxes that use DPL. So there is less work than actually having to touch that many individual pages.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:16, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link: [[:Category:Infoboxes]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:05, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have also done the following: :::[[Template:WDSC2007]]<br> :::[[Template:Tour de France 2007]] :::So I recommend that the admins focus on the protected templates and leave the unprotected templates for editors like me to handle. Each template takes only a few minutes to edit. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:07, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::: Much appreciated and I'll start focussing only on protected first.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:27, 13 April 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} Is there a reason not to keep using [[Template:Infosection]] in these infoboxes, rather than replacing it with <nowiki><div style="background: #bce1ff; color: #202122; padding: 2px; text-align: center; style; font-size: normal;">...</nowiki>? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:10, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **Also, I notice that the underlying articles linked from [[Template:WDSC2007]] are displaying the updated infobox (see [[2007 World Deaf Swimming Championships Day 5: A fantastic ending]], for example), but those from [[Template:Tour de France 2007]] and [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]] are not (see [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]], for example). I'm not sure what the difference is. (The updated infoboxes use the correct dates for the underlying articles, rather than dating everything 17 February 2025.) --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:42, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **: The 17 February 2025 date was the result of work we did with the license upgrade and is therefore going to be incorrect according to the publish date, unfortunately. As I've removed DPLs, I have not been adding a date. Just a bulleted list that I copied and pasted.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:25, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::I knew about the 17 February 2025 problem from before. My point was that if I edit the dates in the infobox to be the correct date instead of 17 February 2025, I expect that if the infobox is displayed on other articles, it should be the corrected infobox rather than the uncorrected version. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 12:54, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::: Ahh, sorry. I read it wrong. ::::: I just tested and do see that some of the changes aren't propagating as expected. I tested with [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]] and tried to purge that page using <code>?action=purge</code> on the end of the URL and that didn't pull in the changes. However, when I used <code><nowiki>{{subst:Tour de France 2007}}</nowiki></code> at that article, it did indeed pull in the changes. So I imagine (hope?) that we can carry on and eventually the changes will propagate. I have seen in the past, notably when I created categories such as [[:Category:Peer reviewed/Passed (exception)/Michael.C.Wright]], that it took days for the categories to be populated as expected. ::::: Unless of course someone else knows what's going on under the hood and knows a better approach.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:12, 13 April 2026 (UTC) ** I don't know of any and you're right, it might be better to simply replace the DPL.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) * I believe all that is left in [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] are infoboxes that call {{tl|Infobox}}, which utilizes [[:Template:Infobox/p2]] to generate DPLs. If someone has any ideas on how to tackle that, it would be a huge help in reducing the number of pages using DPL. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link to all pages using DPL (note that pages in the main and category namespaces have it transcluded from a template): [[:Category:Pages using the DynamicPageList extension]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 17:19, 13 April 2026 (UTC) === State infoboxes === I am now rebuilding [[:Category:State infoboxes]] to be static. See the following, completed examples: * [[:Template:Alabama]] * [[:Template:Alaska]] I'm working in alphabetical order. Feel free to start at the bottom and work upwards if you'd like to lend a hand. The first two were fully protected, so this may be a job only for admins, unfortunately.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) : {{done}} The states infoboxes are now converted from DPL to static[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:55, 13 April 2026 (UTC) === Country Infoboxes === I am now rebuilding [[:Category:Country infoboxes]] to be static, following the same process as done for State infoboxes. See the following, completed examples: * [[:Template:Afghanistan]] * [[:Template:Albania]] One was protected, one was not. Feel free to jump in where you can. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:10, 13 April 2026 (UTC) : Infoboxes in sections J, K, and L of [[:Category:Country infoboxes]] are completed. I'll continue down the list from M later today or tomorrow (Pacific Time), unless someone else gets there first.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:02, 13 April 2026 (UTC) : I will add that should we migrate and are able to continue our use of DPL ([[m:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260413211700-RhinosF1-20260413201600|which remains unclear]]) these changes should be easily revert-able. Most of my updates to these infoboxes were a single edit.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:28, 13 April 2026 (UTC) l7dcx76mz0e8bpv5r5oap60ck4by9zo 4 7121 5007907 4765473 2026-04-14T10:34:09Z Koavf 5879 /* Current preparation */ 5007907 wikitext text/x-wiki __NOINDEX__ {{shortcut|[[WN:SP]]}} {{xambox | type = notice | text = '''<u>BE AWARE</u>: The draft stories listed below are possibly false, unverified or incorrect because this is a development area for news events that have not yet occurred.''' There have been past mistakes by major media (notably with US presidential election results e.g. '''{{w|Dewey Defeats Truman}}''').}} {{TOCright}} {|style="width:60%;" | style="background-color: cream; border: solid 1px gray; padding: 1em;" valign="top" | Story preparation is a common practice in news media and essential to ensure rapid delivery of the story. Some major events are expected e.g. the launch of a new product/film/book, a major sporting event, a court case, an election, or the death of a notable person. The stories we publish about these events are often largely composed of background information that is available before the event. Story preparation allows a quick response and helps to eliminate duplication of effort. Editors can collaborate on a single, common, prepared story rather than working separately on multiple, private, prepared stories. |} <div style="width:40%;display:block;float:right;"> {| style="width:100%;" | style="background-color: #FFF5FA; border: solid 1px gray; padding: 1em;" valign="top" | <h2 style="padding:3px; background:#aaccff; color:#000; text-align:center; font-weight:bold; font-size:150%; margin-bottom:5px;margin-top:0;margin-left:-5px;margin-right:-4px;">Previous prepared articles</h2> * [[Tropical Storm Stan forms over Yucatan Peninsula]] <!--2005--> * [[Former Chilean dictator Pinochet dies at 91]] <!--2006--> * [[Saskatchewan Roughriders win 2007 Grey Cup]] <!--2007--> * [[US candidate Barack Obama announces Joe Biden as his running mate via text message]] <!--2008--> * [[Wikinews visits the 2009 Reno Air Races]] <!--2009--> * [[US actor Dennis Hopper dies at age 74]] <!--2010--> * [[Osama bin Laden killed in U.S. operation in Pakistan, White House says]] <!--2011--> * [['Gangnam Style' YouTube view count passes one billion]] <!--2012--> * [[Scotland says 'No' in independence referendum]] <!--2014--> |} </div> {|style="width:60%;" |style="background-color: cream; border: solid 1px gray; padding: 1em;" valign="top"| Before participating in story preparation, note: * '''Prepared stories are not to be published''' until at least two mutually independent, verifiable sources are found. * Prepared stories '''must include sourcing from which they are largely verifiable''' or will be eligible for deletion ten days after being tagged as such with {{tl|unsourced prepared}}. * Put the '''<nowiki>{{prepare}}</nowiki> tag''' at the top of any prepared stories and include a future expected event and/or a date. * When adding categories, '''place a colon (:) before each category''' so readers do not find the story when looking through the categories. Remove the colons when the article is ready for [[WN:REVIEW|review]]. * When creating a story '''develop it as a subpage''' to this page e.g. ''Wikinews:Story preparation/European Constitution Referendum in Portugal''. * When publishing a story, '''rename''' the article to the main article namespace. Do not copy and paste it. This is important, because renaming a page conserves its history. * In the event of a story having two possible outcomes e.g. a football match or election - '''writers can prepare two stories''' for the event. * Finally, prepared stories are eligible for deletion if '''the [[WN:FOCUS|focal event]] occurred at least five days ago and the prepared work was not developed into an article''' (either beause no article was released or because it was easier to start from scratch); no tag is needed before deletion in this scenario. |} == Current preparation == <div style="width:40%;display:block;float:right;"> {| style="width:100%;" | style="background-color: #FAF5FF; border: solid 1px gray; padding: 1em;" valign="top" | <h2 style="padding:3px; background:#aaccff; color:#000; text-align:center; font-weight:bold; font-size:150%; margin-bottom:5px;margin-top:0;margin-left:-5px;margin-right:-4px;">Article templates</h2> * {{tl|Prepare}} * {{tl|Election results}} * {{tl|Standard obituary}} |} </div> {|style="width:60%;" |style="background-color: cream; border: solid 1px gray; padding: 1em;" valign="top"| <dynamicpagelist> category = Prepared stories order = ascending shownamespace = false count = 10 offset = 5 </dynamicpagelist> |} == Obituaries == {|style="width:100%;" | style="background-color: cream; border: solid 1px gray; padding: 1em;" valign="top" | Obituaries can be prepared using the {{tl|standard obituary}} template. An obituary can be written if a prominent or notable person: * is of advanced age (this is a subjective criterion). * has an illness/sickness/handicap that might take their life. * is highly likely to be murdered/killed by a third party or external event. Typically an obituary should be respectful, not delving into sensationalism. However, in respect of some figures, sensitively mentioning the reasons for their notoriety may be needed. |} {|style="width:100%;" | style="background-color: cream; border: solid 1px gray; padding: 1em;" valign="top" | # '''Start with a 1-2 sentence summary''' of the subject's death. While the specifics of a person's death may differ from your version, that can be changed as necessary. Example: #:*''Former United States President Gerald Ford has died at his home in Rancho Mirage, California at the age of 92''., when he in fact died at 93. # '''The rest of the article''' should be about the subject's life. Include important details and events in their lives. Anything else can be added upon the subject's death. # '''Finally, add a photo''' of the subject if a public domain or Creative Commons-licensed photo can be found. Fair use photos probably should not be used, as their fair use rationale is questionable in a prepared story. If you cannot find one, don't worry about it; it can be added when the article is published. |} [[Category:Wikinews|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Category:Prepared stories| ]] [[es:Wikinoticias:Preparación de artículos]] [[it:Wikinotizie:Storie in preparazione]] [[ja:ウィキニュース:これからの出来事]] r3887qqutt5i0ezu2babypmzu3xj961 5007908 5007907 2026-04-14T10:34:21Z Koavf 5879 /* Obituaries */ 5007908 wikitext text/x-wiki __NOINDEX__ {{shortcut|[[WN:SP]]}} {{xambox | type = notice | text = '''<u>BE AWARE</u>: The draft stories listed below are possibly false, unverified or incorrect because this is a development area for news events that have not yet occurred.''' There have been past mistakes by major media (notably with US presidential election results e.g. '''{{w|Dewey Defeats Truman}}''').}} {{TOCright}} {|style="width:60%;" | style="background-color: cream; border: solid 1px gray; padding: 1em;" valign="top" | Story preparation is a common practice in news media and essential to ensure rapid delivery of the story. Some major events are expected e.g. the launch of a new product/film/book, a major sporting event, a court case, an election, or the death of a notable person. The stories we publish about these events are often largely composed of background information that is available before the event. Story preparation allows a quick response and helps to eliminate duplication of effort. Editors can collaborate on a single, common, prepared story rather than working separately on multiple, private, prepared stories. |} <div style="width:40%;display:block;float:right;"> {| style="width:100%;" | style="background-color: #FFF5FA; border: solid 1px gray; padding: 1em;" valign="top" | <h2 style="padding:3px; background:#aaccff; color:#000; text-align:center; font-weight:bold; font-size:150%; margin-bottom:5px;margin-top:0;margin-left:-5px;margin-right:-4px;">Previous prepared articles</h2> * [[Tropical Storm Stan forms over Yucatan Peninsula]] <!--2005--> * [[Former Chilean dictator Pinochet dies at 91]] <!--2006--> * [[Saskatchewan Roughriders win 2007 Grey Cup]] <!--2007--> * [[US candidate Barack Obama announces Joe Biden as his running mate via text message]] <!--2008--> * [[Wikinews visits the 2009 Reno Air Races]] <!--2009--> * [[US actor Dennis Hopper dies at age 74]] <!--2010--> * [[Osama bin Laden killed in U.S. operation in Pakistan, White House says]] <!--2011--> * [['Gangnam Style' YouTube view count passes one billion]] <!--2012--> * [[Scotland says 'No' in independence referendum]] <!--2014--> |} </div> {|style="width:60%;" |style="background-color: cream; border: solid 1px gray; padding: 1em;" valign="top"| Before participating in story preparation, note: * '''Prepared stories are not to be published''' until at least two mutually independent, verifiable sources are found. * Prepared stories '''must include sourcing from which they are largely verifiable''' or will be eligible for deletion ten days after being tagged as such with {{tl|unsourced prepared}}. * Put the '''<nowiki>{{prepare}}</nowiki> tag''' at the top of any prepared stories and include a future expected event and/or a date. * When adding categories, '''place a colon (:) before each category''' so readers do not find the story when looking through the categories. Remove the colons when the article is ready for [[WN:REVIEW|review]]. * When creating a story '''develop it as a subpage''' to this page e.g. ''Wikinews:Story preparation/European Constitution Referendum in Portugal''. * When publishing a story, '''rename''' the article to the main article namespace. Do not copy and paste it. This is important, because renaming a page conserves its history. * In the event of a story having two possible outcomes e.g. a football match or election - '''writers can prepare two stories''' for the event. * Finally, prepared stories are eligible for deletion if '''the [[WN:FOCUS|focal event]] occurred at least five days ago and the prepared work was not developed into an article''' (either beause no article was released or because it was easier to start from scratch); no tag is needed before deletion in this scenario. |} == Current preparation == <div style="width:40%;display:block;float:right;"> {| style="width:100%;" | style="background-color: #FAF5FF; border: solid 1px gray; padding: 1em;" valign="top" | <h2 style="padding:3px; background:#aaccff; color:#000; text-align:center; font-weight:bold; font-size:150%; margin-bottom:5px;margin-top:0;margin-left:-5px;margin-right:-4px;">Article templates</h2> * {{tl|Prepare}} * {{tl|Election results}} * {{tl|Standard obituary}} |} </div> {|style="width:60%;" |style="background-color: cream; border: solid 1px gray; padding: 1em;" valign="top"| <dynamicpagelist> category = Prepared stories order = ascending shownamespace = false count = 10 offset = 5 </dynamicpagelist> |} == Obituaries == {|style="width:100%;" | style="background-color: cream; border: solid 1px gray; padding: 1em;" valign="top" | Obituaries can be prepared using the {{tl|standard obituary}} template. An obituary can be written if a prominent or notable person: * is of advanced age (this is a subjective criterion). * has an illness/sickness/handicap that might take their life. * is highly likely to be murdered/killed by a third party or external event. Typically an obituary should be respectful, not delving into sensationalism. However, in respect of some figures, sensitively mentioning the reasons for their notoriety may be needed. |} {|style="width:100%;" | style="background-color: cream; border: solid 1px gray; padding: 1em;" valign="top" | # '''Start with a one or two sentence summary''' of the subject's death. While the specifics of a person's death may differ from your version, that can be changed as necessary. Example: #:*''Former United States President Gerald Ford has died at his home in Rancho Mirage, California at the age of 92''., when he in fact died at 93. # '''The rest of the article''' should be about the subject's life. Include important details and events in their lives. Anything else can be added upon the subject's death. # '''Finally, add a photo''' of the subject if a public domain or Creative Commons-licensed photo can be found. Fair use photos probably should not be used, as their fair use rationale is questionable in a prepared story. If you cannot find one, don't worry about it; it can be added when the article is published. |} [[Category:Wikinews|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Category:Prepared stories| ]] [[es:Wikinoticias:Preparación de artículos]] [[it:Wikinotizie:Storie in preparazione]] [[ja:ウィキニュース:これからの出来事]] 80cr0wnll5j1vggbomqcwbvz5jjdxa3 0 10597 5007937 4813301 2026-04-14T11:08:25Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007937 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|May 25, 2005}} [[File:Guantanamo Bay map.png|right|250px|thumb|Location of Guantanamo Bay, Cuba]] In their annual report on human rights [[Amnesty International]] Secretary General, Irene Khan, said "Guantanamo has become the [[w:gulag|gulag]] of our time." In this 308-page report, they also called for the United States to shut down the Guantanamo prison. The report continues the critical analysis of the actions of the U.S. government, but criticism is sharper. The introduction to the report states "The 'war on terror' appeared more effective in eroding international human rights principles than in countering international 'terrorism'." In calling for changes from the U.S. government, especially regarding Guantanamo Bay, Amnesty International's voice is joined with calls from both the [[w:International Red Cross|International Red Cross]] (IRC) and the [[American Civil Liberties Union]] (ACLU). The IRC has said it reported to the U.S. government detainee's reports of desecration of the [[w:Qur'an|Qur'an]]. The ACLU's [[w:Freedom of Information Act|Freedom of Information Act]] requests turned up [[U.S.]] [[Federal Bureau of Investigation]] (FBI) reports which echo the IRC's concerns. The documents are purported to show a consistency with reports from detainees of abuse to their religious symbols, as well as reports of beatings and other interrogation methods. Amnesty International's Secretary General, in her introduction to the report, points to the United State's foreign and military policy as providing a justification for other governments to ignore human rights. "The USA, as the unrivalled political, military and economic hyper-power, sets the tone for governmental behaviour worldwide. When the most powerful country in the world thumbs its nose at the rule of law and human rights, it grants a licence to others to commit abuse with impunity," said [[w:Irene Khan|Irene Khan]]. White House spokesman [[w:Scott McClellan|Scott McClellan]] responded saying the report's allegations were "ridiculous and unsupported by the facts. The United States is leading the way when it comes to protecting human rights and promoting human dignity. We have liberated 50 million people in Iraq and Afghanistan. We have worked to advance freedom and democracy in the world so that people are governed under a rule of law and that there are... protections in place for minority rights, that women's rights are advanced so that women can fully participate in societies where now they cannot", as well as supporting the fight against [[AIDS]] in Africa. About the allegations of abuse at Guantanamo, which McClellan has previously called isolated incidents, he said, "We hold people accountable when there is abuse. We take steps to prevent it from happening again, and we do so in a very public way for the world to see that we lead by example, and that we do have values that we hold very dearly and believe in." {{haveyoursay}} == Related news == *{{wikinews|title=Red Cross reveals it told U.S. officials about Koran disrespect on multiple occasions|date=May 20, 2005}} *{{wikinews|title=Muslim leaders don't accept "pressured" apology|date=May 17, 2005}} == Sources == *{{source|url=http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050525/us_nm/rights_amnesty_dc_6 |title=US undermines rights, Guantanamo like 'gulag' |author=Jeremy Lovell |pub=Yahoo News |date=May 25, 2005}} *{{source|url=http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=791068&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312 |title=Amnesty takes aim at "gulag' in Guantanamo |author=Paisley Dodds A.P. |pub=ABC News |date=May 25, 2005}} *{{source|url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/guantanamo_quran |title=FBI Records Cite Quran Abuse Allegations |author=Robert Burns, AP Military Writer |pub=Yahoo News |date=May 25, 2005}} *{{source|url= http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGPOL100062005 |title=Report 2005: A dangerous new agenda |author= |pub=Amnesty International Press Release |date=May 25, 2005}} *{{source|url=http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cfm?ID=18320&c=206 |title=Guantánamo Prisoners Told FBI of Koran Desecration in 2002, New Documents Reveal |author= |pub=ACLU |date=May 25, 2005}} *{{source|url= http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FB0E1FFE3F580C728DDDAA0894DD404482 |title=(abstract)The reach of war : Guantanamo; Pentagon seeks to shift inmates from Cuba base |author=Douglas Jehl, Neil A.Lewis |pub=NYT |date=March 11, 2005}} == External links == * [http://web.amnesty.org/report2005/index-eng Amnesty International's Annual Report, 2005] * May 25, 2005: [http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/05/20050525-3.html Press Briefing by Scott McClellan] {{publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Guantanamo Bay]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:North America]] [[Category:ACLU]] [[Category:Amnesty International]] [[Category:Red Cross and Red Crescent]] [[es:Amnistía Internacional pide el cierre de la base de Guantánamo en su más reciente informe]] [[pt:Anistia Internacional pede para que Base de Guantânamo seja fechada]] tpc3e1box9qty2zgy4gnrk40yypfwuk 10 14505 5007594 4234289 2026-04-13T14:16:20Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]] 5007594 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle='''G8 Summit, July 2005'''[[Image:G8 Glenealges logo.png|center|140px|]]}} {{Infosection|name=Wikinews Coverage| * [[Bush crashes his bike into Scottish police officer]] * [[Blair: G8 leaders announce $50 billion aid increase; talks on trade and climate change]] * [[San Francisco anti-G8 rally turns violent]] * [[Mixed reactions to G8 summit]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}} <includeonly>[[Category:G8 Summit July 2005]]</includeonly> <noinclude>[[Category:Event infoboxes|G8 Summit 2005]]</noinclude> m4zx9dj9u8ufitiueit9amrui0wnvi1 10 19567 5007551 4234286 2026-04-13T12:48:20Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]] 5007551 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=30A Protest - Forbes CEO Conference}} [[Image:Sydney Opera House Sails.jpg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=Related stories| * [[Carnival style protest held in Sydney]] * [[Sydney prepares for Forbes Conference and 30A protest]] * [[Sydney, protesters reach agreement with police]] * [[Bush attendance at Australia CEO conference a hoax]] * [[George H. W. Bush to attend Sydney CEO conference]] * [[Protestors want 'carnival not confrontation' at Forbes conference]] * [[Australian governments to partially fund Forbes conference]] * [[Thousands expected to protest at Forbes Global CEO conference in Sydney]]}} {{InfosectionStart|name=External links|style=background: #DDDDFF;}} *[http://www.30a.org 30A Network] *[http://www.peacebus.com/30A/ PeaceBus.com 30A page] *[http://www.forbesconferences.com/?page=event&eventID=39 Forbes Conference (website)] *[[Wikinews:Project Forbes Global CEO Conference in Sydney|Wikinews conference/protest reporting project]] {{InfosectionEnd}} {{InfoboxEnd}} <noinclude> [[Category:Event infoboxes|30A protest infobox]] </noinclude> 4192bhwzfosvfsnovw36mzsdmtvhlti 10 20562 5007592 4234294 2026-04-13T14:12:50Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]] 5007592 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=[[w:Effect of Hurricane Katrina on New Orleans|New Orleans Disaster]]}} {{Infosection|name=[[:Category:New Orleans Disaster|Related stories]]| * [[FEMA official in New Orleans blasts agency's response]] * [[Total evacuation of New Orleans planned]] * [[Federal government begins employing strategies to repair New Orleans]] * [[New Orleans officials confiscating guns]] * [[Widespread looting blamed for disrupted rescue efforts in New Orleans, Louisiana]] * [[Mayor of New Orleans Ray Nagin slams Bush, federal government in radio interview]] * [[Red Cross is not in New Orleans for Katrina, Guard raced it to Superdome]]}} {{Infosection|name=Hurricane Katrina| * [[Hurricane Katrina causes upwards of $12bn of damage; oil prices surge]] * [[At least 55 killed by Hurricane Katrina; serious flooding across affected region]] * [[Hurricane Katrina strikes Florida, kills seven]] * [[Tropical Storm Katrina threatens Florida, Bahamas]] }} {{InfosectionStart|name=Superdome refuge center}} [[Image:Superdome_shelter.jpg|196px]] {{InfosectionEnd}} {{InfosectionStart|name=Other links}} * [[w:Effect of Hurricane Katrina on New Orleans|Effect of Hurricane Katrina on New Orleans]] * [[w:Hurricane Katrina|Hurricane Katrina]] {{InfosectionEnd}} {{InfoboxEnd}} <includeonly>{{#if:{{{nocat|}}}||[[Category:New Orleans Disaster]]}}</includeonly> <noinclude>[[Category:Event infoboxes|New Orleans Disaster]]</noinclude> ht95dikfq71a0japwnoxgkw62o550p1 4 30615 5007762 5005794 2026-04-13T19:03:21Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* Proposal to cease publishing after around April 14 */ reply ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5007762 wikitext text/x-wiki <span style="font-size: 68%;">''Page last updated:''&nbsp;'''{{CURRENTDAYNAME}}&nbsp;{{CURRENTDAY2}} at&nbsp;{{evalx|(apply + (split (get-arg 2) ":"))|{{CURRENTTIME}}}}'''&nbsp;[[w:UTC|UTC]].&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 90%;" class="plainlinks"> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style="font-size: 90%;">'''[{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=purge}} Refresh]</span> [[File:Gtk-refresh.svg|20px|link={{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=purge}}|Refresh this page]]'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /></span> __NEWSECTIONLINK__ [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals/Archive|Archive]] <inputbox> bgcolor=transparent type=fulltext prefix=Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals break=yes width=50 searchbuttonlabel=Search current discussions and archives </inputbox> ---- {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals/archives/%(year)d/%(monthname)s |algo = old(60d) |counter = 1 |minthreadsleft = 1 }} {{Watercooler archivebox}} __TOC__ <!-- Don't touch anything above this line. --> == Limit the FlaggedRevs extension to the article namespace? == Regarding the FlaggedRevs extension in this project, I would like to propose both of the following: # We limit the namespace to only 0 (article namespace), since other namespaces are not considered to be reader material. # Set <code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes</code> to <code>0</code> (<code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes = 0</code>), which should no longer allow FlaggedRevs to detect the stable version of templates in articles, if available. I have done [[:b:en:Wikibooks:Reading room/Proposals#Limit some namespaces on this project's FlaggedRevs extension?|a similar proposal]] months ago on English Wikibooks. Thoughts? [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 06:07, 5 January 2026 (UTC) : I like the idea. I'd like to see what other, more technical folks have to say before officially supporting it. We may also benefit from waiting until en.WB completes their change to see what issues they run into in the process. : We would need to organize a small project team to go through all templates and deal with unsighted changes before the config change, to ensure unsighted changes aren't either lost or auto-sighted, depending on how the process handles unsighted changes. : We also are waiting for the WMF Board to announce their decision on the recommendation to close all Wikinews. There would be no sense in doing the work if they are closing the project.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:23, 5 January 2026 (UTC) ::If there is a plan to migrate the wiki to new hosting, then any last minute changes would also be migrated. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:22, 5 January 2026 (UTC) :: Wikibooks has already done this. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 20:05, 5 January 2026 (UTC) :::Yeah and what was their motivation? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:24, 5 January 2026 (UTC) ::::On English Wikibooks, we wanted to limit FlaggedRevs to article content namespaces, and it worked, but not before we also had to implement <code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes = 0</code> too. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 19:09, 7 January 2026 (UTC) :::::I did not understand why. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:40, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::In the context of article content namespaces, that would be the mainspace, Cookbook, and Wikijunior. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:29, 23 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] In short, because otherwise banners like [[phab:F69801009]] would have been irremovably present on pages transcluding a template that (a) had once been reviewed, & (b) hadn't yet had its most recent version reviewed. This is probably a bug in FlaggedRevs itself ([[phab:T411328]]), but given the extension's [[phab:T185664|current maintenance situation]], I wouldn't personally expect it to necessarily be fixed anytime soon. (In case you're interested, I left a bit of a longer explanation on phab at [[phab:T408110#11370668]] & on en.wikibooks in [[b:en:special:gotocomment/c-A_smart_kitten-20251115215100-Codename_Noreste-20251115190500|this comment]].) Best, [[user:a smart kitten|a smart kitten]] ([[user talk:a smart kitten|talk]]) 13:04, 18 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::(Oh, I just realised that you might not have been asking about why enwikibooks also set <code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes</code> to <code>0</code>. Apologies if so :p) [[user:a smart kitten|a smart kitten]] ([[user talk:a smart kitten|talk]]) 13:05, 18 February 2026 (UTC) :Hi [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]], what is the motivation for these two proposed changes? What would they improve? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:21, 5 January 2026 (UTC) ::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], I replied above. I saw the [[Wikinews:Reviewing articles|article review policy]] about the following: {{tq|Please note that only users who have the reviewer permission should review and publish articles.}} Because of that, I think it would make sense to only limit FlaggedRevs to just the article namespace only. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 00:23, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::The current setup allows anyone to edit a template and it would only become visible on other pages after a reviewer approves the edit. So, the change that is being proposed, would make it harder for non-reviewer users to make minor changes to templates and other non-(Main) pages: instead of just clicking 'edit' they would need to go to talk page and request a change there. On the plus side however, it would relieve reviewers from ''that'' (non-Main) backlog. I am fine either way; I am neutral on this issue. If needed, I can help with the implementation of a change if it was desired. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:01, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::: {{tq|The current setup allows anyone to edit a template}} :::: This is not true. Many are edit-protected to one degree or another. For example, no one but administrators can edit [[Template:Source]] and only an admin+reviewer can sight the change. :::: {{tq|the change that is being proposed, would make it harder for non-reviewer users to make minor changes to templates'}} :::: Disabling Flagged Revs would not make it harder to make changes to templates. It would make changes immediately visible everywhere the template is transcluded. :::: {{tq|instead of just clicking 'edit' they would need to go to talk page and request a change there.'}} :::: What you are describing here is edit protection, not flagged revs. When templates use flagged revs, changes made by ''anyone'' must be sighted or approved by a reviewer. If the template is protected such as template:source to admin-only level, we need someone who is both reviewer ''and'' admin to make and sight the change. :::: {{tq|On the plus side however, it would relieve reviewers from ''that'' (non-Main) backlog.'}} :::: Removing flagged revs would reduce the number of changes that need to be approved, but currently only by 14%. The remaining 195 changes still need to be processed. :::: Removing flagged revs from templates will not only make it easier to maintain our templates, it will also reduce our risk if something should go wrong with the flagged revs.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:44, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::::1. OK, make it harder to edit ''some'' templates. (Not all are edit protected.) :::::2. It would make it harder for editing ''some'' templates - those that are not edit protected. :::::3. Not really interested in that scenario; interested in those that are not edit protected. Those that are edit protected, it is correct that they require an admin and a reviewer with current setup, and only a admin with proposed setup. But that was not the point that I was raising. :::::3a. Setting <pre>$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['review'] = true; //allow administrators to review revisions</pre> could be an option, if needed. A request would need to be made that sysops only work outside of main namespace, and possibly only with cosmetic edits to main namespace. That too would reduce reviewers backlog as they would not need to sight changes where a vandal did something and it was undone back identical to previous revision, or minor formatting and punctuation edits. :::::4. Ok, fine. By 14% is still helpful. :::::2, 4. It is not called "removing / disabling flaggedrevs", it is called "disabling flaggedrevs on namespaces that are not main". Removing it implies removing the extension from the wiki altogether, and is not a part of this proposal. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:38, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::::: {{tq|make it harder to edit ''some'' templates}} :::::: Disabling flagged revs in template space won't make it harder to edit ''any'' templates. It will allow for changes to be immediately transcluded, without requiring changes to be sighted (approved). :::::: Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are trying to say here. But since you are neutral on the change, maybe it also doesn't matter that I can't make sense of it.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:09, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::as I said earlier, if those templates that are under flaggedrevs control now will become protected, they will become harder for non-(privleged) users to edit. I am assuming that they will be protected. there was no consensus here on making them free for anyone to edit. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:07, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :* {{support}}: I do think it would be a better idea to limit it to the main namespace only. As I understand it, the primary focus of the Reviewers user group is to review and evaluate articles and publish them, along with related changes. This would certainly reduce the additional, less important pending changes burden in other namespaces. But, before implementing this as Michael.C.Wright suggests, all current non mainspace changes should be sighted first. Besides that, I do not currently have any other points against this in mind. :-- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:22, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::Pinging [[User:A smart kitten|A smart kitten]] to my FlaggedRevs proposal here, as they might know a little bit more about this extension than we do. I'll probably file a task for this today, given that some are in favor of this change. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 15:18, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::2 yes and 1 neutral. I would suggest wait a bit more before filing task. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:57, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::To be clear, I wouldn't say I'm an expert on FlaggedRevs by any means :p - I just know a bit that I looked into while working on [[phab:T408110]] :) :::I left a note re <code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes</code> [[#c-A_smart_kitten-20260218130400-Gryllida-20260111164000|above]], but feel free to ping me if there are any other questions about the proposal from a technical perspective. Best, [[user:a smart kitten|a smart kitten]] ([[user talk:a smart kitten|talk]]) 13:09, 18 February 2026 (UTC) : {{Support}} Since I didn't make that explicit...apologies. : I should have time later today to work through the pending changes to templates if someone doesn't get to them sooner.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:01, 17 February 2026 (UTC) : <strike>Aside from the one above waiting on [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]],</strike> we have all pending changes to templates done. I can keep an eye on them and sight them as a priority until we get the flagged revs disabled for template namespace.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:59, 17 February 2026 (UTC) : The Phabricator ticket for the request has been closed as 'resolved.'[https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418066] : I checked [[Template:Source]] and [[Template:Date]] to test, and verified that I no longer have the option to ''Submit changes'' as opposed to ''Save changes'' and there is no option to "Mark this version as reviewed" as expected if FlaggedRevs were disabled for templates. : I think we should leave this discussion open for a week or two longer, just in case we run across any issues. Thank you @[[User:Pppery|Pppery]], @[[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]], and @[[User:A smart kitten|A smart kitten]]![[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 00:23, 25 March 2026 (UTC) === Protecting templates === : I am working through the pending changes to templates now. I think it would be wise to protect all templates to 'auto-confirm' accounts as a minimum, not changing any existing protection levels. A lot of the pending changes so far include reverted vandalism (this is good, it is being found and reverted quickly). Many of the vandals are IP/temp accounts, which presumably haven't yet been auto-confirmed. : That could be a lot of tedious work to do up front, but may pay off in the long run. : Any thoughts/objections?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:35, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::Do you have a few examples? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:48, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::: Feel free to look through the edit history/recent changes. I was typically descriptive using 'vandalism undone.'[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:49, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::: I just hit this one, so here's an example: [[Template:TScope/ex/doc]]. ::: Feel free to take action on it.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:51, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::::Hi ::::Ah yes. Those were not edit protected, and anyone could edit them. For when nobody looking, that backlog is pretty tame... ::::#I personally would think that edit protect them makes sense only if the proposed change was to go ahead - ::::# but then, I would suggest to make them "reviewer or admin only" as is more similar to like the current setup, where the intent is for the edit to be checked by a privileged user. Relying on recent change patrolling may not work well on a small wiki that is news focused. ::::# In any case of protection I would suggest to work on making it easier to request an edit. Clicking "talk" and leaving a message is pretty hard For a newbie. ::::# Could the software show a banner at top of all edit protected pages with a big fat "request edit" button that takes to new section at talk with relevant "edit protected request" or whatever template already filled in with a space to describe proposed edit and reason. This banner should only show for users who do not have the privilege to edit the page. ::::# If needed i can write a js that protects page, places a banner at page top, and sights the edit. ::::- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:10, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::::: > ''I would suggest to make them "reviewer or admin only" as is more similar to like the current setup, where the intent is for the edit to be checked by a privileged user.'' ::::: We can't set "reviewer" as a level of protection. It's not available in the protection menu (I'm not sure if we can somehow enable it). ::::: Also, protecting to admin-only would put too much burden on a group that is already underserved and over-taxed. It is further frustrated by the fact that one of our two interface admins ([[User:Asked42|Asked42]]) is neither a reviewer nor an admin and therefore they would not be able make ''any'' changes to templates if we protected them all to reviewer (if we are able) or admin. ::::: A good portion of the changes I sighted were indeed made by Asked42. ::::: I think auto-confirmed as the minimum baseline, with some fully protected (as they already are) is a good compromise/happy medium.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:23, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::yes we can add a [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRestrictionLevels $wgRestrictionLevels], i guess 'sysop or reviewer or interface admin' could work [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:06, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::This would require initiating a separate proposal to add <code>editautoreviewprotected</code> as a protection level and user right (autoreviewed users, reviewers, and administrators). Protection for interface administrators is currently not possible, as regular administrators cannot edit site CSS/JS pages, or CSS and JS pages in any user's userspace (except for their own). [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 21:10, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::: Based on this, I think we should protect all templates to a minimum 'auto-confirmed' level, then increase it on an as-needed basis, with the understanding that over-protection impedes regular maintenance. <br>Protecting all templates to reviewer + admin is in my opinion overkill and prevents our single, active, interface admin from being able to make any changes to any templates. <br>Very few of our templates are used on published articles, which is arguably our most sensitive namespace as far as vandalism is concerned. <br>This also requires no changes be made to the overall config. <br>So to be clear, I would support the following (<del>assuming</del> <ins>I assume</ins> we also do it in the following order): :::::::: ::::::::* Protecting all templates to a minimum of auto-confirmed users ::::::::* Remove/disable flagged revs in the Template namespace :::::::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 23:01, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::that risks all sysops (who may be awol at times) missing an edit an autoconfirmed user made, whereas protecting would prevent this. i think on a small wiki it is better to reduce risk of an edit being made inadvertedly and then being missed. this is not wikipedia where good faith is assumed and infinite resources are available for post-edit page patrol. that would be a low activity backlog anyway seeing that you handled all pending revisions within less than a day - and they were accumulated over course of a few years i believed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:09, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::Whatever user right, it should be granted based on consensus or a sysop decision, not "this user was on wiki for 3 days therefore not spammer" (whatever that was named), in my view. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:22, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::: I {{oppose}} applying reviewer and/or admin-only protection to all templates. It will make general maintenance too difficult. <br>I {{support}} applying auto-confirm protection to all templates that are not currently protected, or:<br>I {{support}} not changing template protection broadly at this time. I don't think this decision should impede the original proposal since it was added later.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:11, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::I initiated [[phab:T418066]]. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 20:58, 21 February 2026 (UTC) ==== Options how to protect ==== For templates which are current in control by flagged revs, a reviewer has to sight an edit for it to be approved and become included in other pages. With the flagged revs being disabled for them. There is a need to make a decision what to do to prevent vandalism and other unwanted edits. * Option 1: do nothing; the templates become available for anyone to edit. Another user can undo that. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong; any user can monitor and undo. * Option 2: protect on 'auto-confirmed' level. Accounts with the 'autoconfirmed' privilege can edit. Another 'autoconfirmed' user can undo if needed. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong; an 'autoconfirmed' user or users need to check recent changes and monitor. This inconveniences users who are not 'autoconfirmed' because they havve to open a new section at talk page to request an edit. Work load on 'auto-confirmed' is increased because they have to monitor such requests and recent changes. * Option 3: protect on 'some new privilege name here' level. The privilege is given out to any user who was doing something constructive and is provided by request without needing to do a full vote. A vote may be held to remove it if needed or an admin can remove that privilege if it was misused. Another 'some new privilege name here' user can undo if needed. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong; an 'some new privilege name here' user or users need to check recent changes and monitor. This inconveniences users who are not a'some new privilege name here' because now they have to manually request new edits at the talk page. Work load on 'some new privilege name here' is increased because they have to monitor such requests and recent changes. * Option 4: protect on 'reviewer or sysop or interface admin' level. Accounts with 'reviewer or sysop or interface admin' privilege can edit, and another user with that privilege can undo if needed. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong, however, the pool of users was hand selected and voted on and the risk was reduced. This inconveniences users who are not a 'reviewer or sysop or interface admin' because now they have to manually request new edits at the talk page. Work load on 'reviewer or sysop or interface admin' is increased because they have to monitor such requests and recent changes. * Option 5: protect on 'sysop' level. Accounts with sysop (Administrator) privilege can edit, and another user with that privilege can undo if needed. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong, however, the pool of users was hand selected and voted on and the risk was reduced. This inconveniences users who are not a Administrator because now they have to manually request new edits at the talk page. Work load on 'Administrator' is increased because they have to monitor such requests and recent changes. Let me know if I missed something. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 03:01, 22 February 2026 (UTC) Comments and discussion * I have stronger support for 5 than 4 than 3 than 2. The amount of such changes made in template namespace was tiny and I propose to reduce load on 'contributors, users, reviewers, and interface admins', as they best work on news. Solving vandalism or 'hey lets change this because thats how i did it somewhere else and i thought that is good here' or 'i am confused' issues is a sysop job (ignoring that sysops have huge backlog because I am here and I don't even know that these tasks exist, but still. sysop handle mitigations of abuse and approvals of legit edits, in my view. I do not want to bring up question of sysop backlog size or lack of prior involvement in such issues before as it is not directly relevant to my argument). [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 02:50, 22 February 2026 (UTC) == Proposal to ban usage of AI at Wikinews == From [[Wikinews:Deletion_requests#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260107193100-Israeli_naval_ships_intercept_Gaza-bound_Global_Sumud_Flotilla]] there is a note from @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]] "I would even go so far as to propose that we block all AI articles on this wiki.". I agree with this proposal in short term. In long term I think it would be good to allow it after some reliable workflow is developed. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] may be interested in this discussion. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:51, 7 January 2026 (UTC) === Votes === * {{support}} noting this is for short term only and further effort could be undertaken to see what went wrong and how it could be addressed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:51, 7 January 2026 (UTC) *:I'm unsure about this right now [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:05, 7 January 2026 (UTC) *::{{oppose}} greatly, [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:21, 7 January 2026 (UTC) *::Hi @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] what would you think of requirement 'ai involved articles are in beta phrase, and are only allowed to be written for events which happened on first day of the month'? or some other random blanket rule that leads to effort managing ai generated content as a beta stage only and not every day. then maybe some understanding could be reached how to use ai more efficiently. please let me know, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:26, 11 January 2026 (UTC) *:::im just so used to using AI I personally enjoy it and I think it helps in some ways to news stories. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:27, 11 January 2026 (UTC) *:Yes, short term. When AI gets better or we have more manpower etc., we of course gonna use it. But not for now [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 04:45, 9 January 2026 (UTC) *::Hi @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], what would you think of requirement 'ai involved articles are in beta phrase, and are only allowed to be written for events which happened on first day of the month'? or some other random blanket rule that leads to effort managing ai generated content as a beta stage only and not every day. then maybe some understanding could be reached how to use ai more efficiently. please let me know, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:26, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * {{support}} a ban on AI generated news pieces. I'm not seeing how it provides value since anyone can ask AI to summarize a news article. Plus, the AI model appears to hallucinate and includes false information or bad sources, so it seems like it creates unnecessary work. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 21:55, 7 January 2026 (UTC) *: I used AI to help with the following published articles, for just a few examples: :: ::* [[U.S. strikes Iranian nuclear sites Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan overnight]] ::* [[NASA revises asteroid 2024 YR4 threat, near-zero chance of Earth impact]] ::* [[United States sends second aircraft carrier to Middle East, extends ''Truman'' deployment]] ::* [[Oregon court rules voter-approved gun law constitutional]] ::* [[US Navy Secretary nominee Phelan outlines readiness, cost-cutting reforms in Senate hearing]] :: :: I believe they all benefitted from it. I'm not saying they're perfect, but I think they benefitted from AI assistance. :: I also use it to check neutrality and balance during reviews and I find it's very helpful in that regard.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:59, 7 January 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]] what would you think of requirement 'ai involved articles are in beta phrase, and are only allowed to be written for events which happened on first day of the month'? or some other random blanket rule that leads to effort managing ai generated content as a beta stage only and not every day. then maybe some understanding could be reached how to use ai more efficiently. please let me know, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:27, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * {{oppose}} Each instance of AI hallucinations slipping through was either 1. A violation of [[WN:AI]] or 2. Should have been caught by the review process, or both. Maybe if we de-flagged reviewers after three AI slip-ups in published articles, we'd catch more of them sooner. <br>I think AI should be treated no different than a human editor. That means any hallucinations, which are simply inaccuracies or unsupported statements by another name, are catchable in the review process (but should be caught in the development process). I would imagine if we ban it, we will simply drive its use "underground." <br>And to be clear; I'm not advocating for AI-generated articles, but AI-assisted articles. <br>I'd prefer that we enforce the full and complete review process. Pseudo-reviews that skip the verification process predictably lead to more corrections and retractions.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:38, 7 January 2026 (UTC) ::I think we have yet to update [[Wikinews:The use of AI in generating content]] then approve it either as a policy or a guideline. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 22:41, 7 January 2026 (UTC) ::: I agree. The proposed guideline variously states that humans are responsible for the state of the article. ::: :::* "these drafts must always be critically reviewed and fact-checked by human contributors before submission." :::* "the final decisions on wording and style remain human-led." :::* "any interpretation or conclusions drawn must be reviewed by human contributors." :::* "The editorial process, including pre-reviews and final reviews, must always be carried out by human contributors." ::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:52, 7 January 2026 (UTC) ::::AI makes stuff up and this is quite dangerous. I asked it about a snow hazard in Switzerland and provided list of 3 sources; it told me the date 13 months off. If AI assistance is to be kept, I would suggest requiring that the author(s) provide a list of prompts to their AI tool on the talk page. This could help to improve quality of reports. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 02:09, 8 January 2026 (UTC) ::::: > ''AI makes stuff up and this is quite dangerous.'' ::::: However, those facts must be present in the listed sources to be included in our article. Bogus facts provided by AI won't be in the listed sources. <br>A full and complete review will catch that. That's how they were caught in both recent cases where a retraction was proposed. Someone read the article and tried to verify every statement against the sources.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 03:06, 8 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::I was told Grok AI gave information on underage kids pornography so strong delete@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:55, 8 January 2026 (UTC) :::::::https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/05/elon-musk-grok-ai-digitally-undress-images-of-women-children [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:58, 8 January 2026 (UTC) ::"Maybe if we de-flagged reviewers after three AI slip-ups in published articles, we'd catch more of them sooner." Should the authors be penalised in any way, if they repeatedly fail to catch AI's hallucinations? I'd like to know your opinion on this, @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:20, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::: Authors are responsible for accuracy. But reviewers bear final accountability for published content because review is a permission granted by the community to publish on its behalf. In these cases, the failure was not the existence of errors, but their approval through incomplete review.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:56, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::::Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ::::1. I ask to approach both reviewer and author in these cases as they both need to change their approach to ensure issues don't happen again and again. I asked you and you said 'Yeah, except reviewers were elected.' Yeah, sure, but my point still stands. I'm speaking of both. ::::2. Doesn't answer my question how to handle users who repeatedly insert same kind of issues into articles. That is not even always visible as the review feedback of failed articles gets deleted along with their talk page. I try to at least post a copy of it onto talk page via 'custom message' feature of ezpr2. Make that an official policy, would you? I'm sure you would be interested in this as it would allow to keep track of issues in articles submitted by that user in one spot, and provide a path towards figuring out why they happen and how to solve them, and improve 'article quality'. ::::3. And the same could go to posting feedback to a reviewer's talk page about post-publish retractions etc. I believe I didn't even ''get'' a talk page message about that retraction request; yet I did get an insinuation here. The note that a particular reviewer is being dodgy sits in your mind and doesn't sit on their talk page. I think that's inefficient. The concern about your mentioning of de-flagging lies in unnecessary escalation; the general civil thing to do has been to leave a message at a talk page before taking further action. ::::Hope it helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:14, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] see [[:w:Hallucination (artificial intelligence)]] for your reference in case you didn't know, regards [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:28, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::: Since hallucinations are inaccuracies, they won't be in the linked sources. So a full and proper [[WN:REV]] would catch them. Just as they were caught in the previously mentioned articles ''once a full and proper review was performed.'' ::: <blockquote>The reviewer should check that all information in the article is fully sourced,</blockquote> ::: Seems like we already have the solution; perform full and proper reviews.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:21, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::::Seems like incomplete solution since users don't fix anything fast. I have seen it tried for 15 years. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:50, 11 January 2026 (UTC) *<s>{{Support}}</s>I don't think we are on the right side of history. But current experience shows that editers and reviewers can not determine if theres any content in an AI generated article. And we "cannot edit after it published", so no remedies can be made. I also believe we should issue an announcement after disabling AI, which would show that we are a responsible media outlet. Of course, I maintain the stance discussed earlier that, ideally, editors should consciously strive to discern, and reviewers should ensure everything meets the standards, such as accuracy. If the review process can achieve this, it doesn't matter whether the article is written by a human, Shakespeare's monkey, or AI, nor is explicit labeling necessary, because we ultimately get a good article. I'm not saying people can't achieve this, but it requires too much effort, which is clearly not cost-effective. And if we implement policies similar to this now instead of banning AI, it will lead to situations where submissions written with AI cannot be published due to insufficient and timely review, which is obviously not in our favor. I apologize for the mistakes in an article I participated in editing. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 04:03, 9 January 2026 (UTC) : > ''editers and reviewers can not determine if theres any content in an AI generated article.''<br>If that were true, how was it identified for the proposed retraction?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:32, 9 January 2026 (UTC) ::I'm just coming to this now and have no idea what this question is asking. Is there some background somewhere about a proposed retraction that isn't immediately clear in this thread? What is that phrase referring to? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 04:13, 10 January 2026 (UTC) :::Yes, the proposed deletion linked in the first sentence of this section. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:19, 11 January 2026 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] fyi :::* for last few months now, partly due to my medical issues and partly due to my preference, i have been publishing articles checking only the basics (5Ws and H) and not checking each sentence thoroughly. i read through sources and ensure that what i have read does not have serious npov issues or contradictions that immediately strike my mind, but don't check fully. :::* i believe @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] has made it clear that he is here to uphold the standards to highest thresholds and now this is taking the form of him doing a full review of an article at time of archival. i disagree with this approach as i think it is taking away his valuable time from reviewing stories which are actually fresh. i do not believe anyone ever did a full review of an article at time of archival. this process previously only involved checking for red links, issues anyone previously flagged at a talk page, etc. :::* this in some cases results in him finding a full bucket of issues that he does not wish to write a 'correction' for because it would require a complete article rewrite. as i am one of the active (and lazy) reviewers here i should normally reply to these requests but i lack the energy to do this as my current state for last few months results in my energy levels being extremely low, at around 40% of what an average person has got. cause is unknown. :::* yet i keep reviewing articles and keep ignoring these requests to retract articles because it is even harder to reply to those than to one full review in the first place (need to articulate why some of the points being nitpicked were utter bullshit, as i find that i do disagree with some of them). :::* this leads to me becoming more exhausted and circles back to me not participating properly :::* there is an ondoing discussion of it in [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#Proposed change to review process by Gryllida Version 202512|this section (on the very same 'proposals' subpage of water cooler)]] :::hope this helps you to get an idea of the situation at least qualitatively. :::regards [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:36, 11 January 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], i liked that thought, that catching AI hallucinations is time consuming and may lead to delays in publishing. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:25, 11 January 2026 (UTC) : {{q|[A]t the time of publication, a news article must be solidly fact-checked and as objective as possible.|30px|30px|[[m:Wikinews|''Wikinews''' mission statement at Meta]]}} : To make sure I understand the position being advanced here, I see the following claims and implications: : :* That, for an extended period[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:Competitive_local_elections_held_in_England#Review_of_revision_4855230_%5BNot_ready%5D], reviews have been intentionally conducted without full verification, despite policy requiring it. :* That multiple proposals have been made to relax or redefine review expectations[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance/archives/2024/November#c-Gryllida-20241020021900-Michael.C.Wright-20241014152800],[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2025/June#'5W_Brief'_format] to align with this reduced, 5W-only level of scrutiny, but without community consensus. :* That, following retractions triggered by full verification after publication, the proposed remedy is to restrict or ban AI use rather than to restore compliance with existing review standards. :* That AI-assisted content is treated as uniquely suspect, while comparable human errors from incomplete review are framed as understandable due to fatigue. :* That thorough verification during review is characterized as counterproductive because it increases post-publication workload, rather than being recognized as work that belongs in the review process. : : I disagree with those priorities. : You previously articulated the risk clearly yourself, noting that becoming more liberal in approvals in order to increase output is “disastrous,”[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#c-Gryllida-2013-08-28T21:28:00.000Z-Wikiwide-2013-08-28T12:57:00.000Z] and that pursuing readership through speed leads to biased, lower-quality journalism. That analysis remains sound and is manifest here in the number of resultant retractions. : Applying full verification after publication did create additional work, but only because required checks were knowingly deferred during review. The remedy is not to restrict tools, but to align review practice with policy. : The underlying issue is not that policy was followed, but that it was repeatedly and unilaterally dismissed.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:42, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::This is too long, but I will answer each point anyway. ::* That, for an extended period[4], reviews have been intentionally conducted without full verification, despite policy requiring it. ::** Yes. I try to do full verification to a degree, but not to each letter. The motivation here is to verify key details and publish while article is still fresh. ::* That multiple proposals have been made to relax or redefine review expectations[5],[6] to align with this reduced, 5W-only level of scrutiny, but without community consensus. ::** That discussion is still open. ::* That, following retractions triggered by full verification after publication, the proposed remedy is to restrict or ban AI use rather than to restore compliance with existing review standards. ::** This is an overloaded sentence for me. For once, it's not only 'review' standards at the plate, it's also the 'write up' standards on the plate. ::* That AI-assisted content is treated as uniquely suspect, while comparable human errors from incomplete review are framed as understandable due to fatigue. ::** I do not know where this came from; please try phrasing it again. I lack resource to attempt to read this more than once. ::* That thorough verification during review is characterized as counterproductive because it increases post-publication workload, rather than being recognized as work that belongs in the review process. ::** I do not know where this came from; please try phrasing it again. I lack resource to attempt to read this more than once. ::* Pursuing readership through speed leads to biased, lower-quality journalism ::** I do not care about readership. I do not know why you think I care of ''that''. ::* "Applying full verification after publication did create additional work, but only because required checks were knowingly deferred during review. The remedy is not to restrict tools, but to align review practice with policy." is missing a 'In my view' note. ::* "The underlying issue is not that policy was followed, but that it was repeatedly and unilaterally dismissed." ::** I do not agree with this statement. I do not think the current policy requires 100% coverage of fact check. ::Hope this helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:57, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::: > ''I do not think the current policy requires 100% coverage of fact check.'' ::: It is explicit: "The reviewer should check that all information in the article is fully sourced..." ::: It's been a part of the policy since its inception, [[Special:Diff/672352|eighteen years ago]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:04, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::::Thanks for that. Posted below. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:35, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::{{Comment}} My understanding is that, for a fair amount of time: ::* There has been a lack of humans, writing articles, editing articles and reviewing them, making it difficult to publish even one article a week; ::* That for a fair amount of articles "written" with usage of AI, the quality problems were significant - not only in style of writing, but even in "facts" mentioned in the article; ::* That we currently have a tool to discourage blatant plagiarism from sources - which therefore encourages "lazy" (or tired, or whatever) contributors to use AI as text generator; ::* AI assisted content is not treated as uniquely suspect. Rather, where text is written by humans, humans are much less likely to generate hallucinations, and much more likely to follow guidelines for writing articles. AI assisted content doesn't know Wikinews guidelines, and even if it were provided with them, it would still be likely to hallucinate; ::The proposals in this thread have included: ::* Temporarily banning AI usage for writing of text in Wikinews articles - which I tend to agree with, though I would prefer a constructive discussion on positive and negative examples of AI generated contributions to Wikinews; ::* Removing reviewer duties from people who have missed AI hallucinations in articles they have published - which I absolutely disagree with. We need more people in Wikinews, not less. ::I would like to add the following proposals: ::* Possibly, add a tool to detect AI hallucinations - numbers (10 or ten or dozens - format doesn't matter), places, people which are not mentioned in the sources; ::* Or even better, write a Wikinews-specific (AI-powered? I don't like AI, but if you do, go ahead, contribute to development and testing) tool to generate text based on the provided links to sources; ::* Remember that having duties of being a reviewer doesn't deprive you of rights of being an editor. If an article needs improvement and editors are not showing up, feel free to improve it yourself - with caveat that you will have to find another reviewer to publish it afterwards. ::Reviewers don't have to be perfect. Reviewers need to be there, active and helping. But they don't have to be perfect. They just have to do their best. And discouraging writers and reviewers, penalizing them for their mistakes, can kill the project. This isn't school where kids have to go, whether they want to or not. This is a project based on volunteers. So instead of wasting their time with these heated opinionated threads and further dividing the community, get out there and do what you can. /AI will not write Wikinews for us./ [[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] ([[User talk:Wikiwide|talk]]) 07:48, 12 January 2026 (UTC) ::: > ''Reviewers don't have to be perfect. Reviewers need to be there, active and helping. But they don't have to be perfect. They just have to do their best.'' :::: We hold contributors accountable under our policies and guidelines, and the same applies to reviewers. '''Publishing inaccurate, biased, or plagiarized content due to incomplete review should not be acceptable.''' Reviewers volunteer for the role with an understanding of its requirements. Unilaterally choosing to disregard core policy for convenience undermines that responsibility, creates more work for others, and damages the project's reputation. ::: ::: :::: If reviewers knowingly accept inaccuracies, bias, or plagiarism for reasons of convenience, it raises a fundamental question about the purpose of the reviewer role itself. The review function exists precisely to prevent those failures, not to normalize them. ::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:49, 12 January 2026 (UTC) ::: > ''Removing reviewer duties from people who have missed AI hallucinations''<br>That was not proposed. I forwarded a thought experiment by saying "'''Maybe''' [emphasis added] if we de-flagged reviewers after three AI slip-ups in published articles, we'd catch more of them sooner."<br>There used to be the notion of "easy-come, easy-go" for the reviewer bit. There is a very brief discussion [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2010/June#%7B%7BUser Wikinews reviewer%7D%7D|here]] between Pi zero and Brian McNeil, two contributors who were instrumental in developing the modern review process. That discussion illustrates the level of attention to detail they hoped for from reviewers. Our current policies and guidelines still largely reflect that expectation. <br>My point is that this is not the way to go about policy change. What has occurred is one reviewer has unilaterally disregarded policy for personal convenience (as stated), and that has resulted in the publication of inaccuracies, bias, and/or plagiarism. <br>If [[WN:IAR]] is used as a justification (and it has not been, so far), even that requires the action to ''improve'' the project.<br>Reviewing as if a policy change has occurred, when it has not, predictably increases post-publication errors and workload. It then becomes circular to cite those downstream burdens as justification for lowering the standard that would have prevented them.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:42, 12 January 2026 (UTC) ::::I don't think there was disregard from one reviewer, that's why I opened RFC below. I believe that doing 100% verification was not common practice. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:04, 12 January 2026 (UTC) :::::Do we have consensus? @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:58, 12 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::Not before a few other contributors weigh in. This may take a few weeks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:58, 18 January 2026 (UTC) *{{support}} At this time. Let's see what the future holds, though. Maybe let's revisit this next year?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:19, 29 January 2026 (UTC) *'''Support''' a ban on unsupervised use of genAI for article creation or expansion, {{Oppose}} a blanket ban. Part of why I oppose the "nuclear option" is because it's nearly impossible to definitively know whether a certain sentence was purely AI-generated or merely the signature of a more formal human writing. As long as it's used responsibly, genAI can be a very handy tool for writing [[WN:Breaking news|breaking news articles]], seeking feedback on the quality of an almost complete article, correcting the grammar, translating content, and other purposes. For example, when I wrote "[[Bangladeshi interim leader Muhammad Yunus returns home after four-day visit to London]]" and "[https://web.archive.org/web/20250707221334/https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Australia%27s_truth_commission_finds_genocide_against_Aboriginal_Victorians,_suggests_practical_remedies Australia's truth commission finds genocide against Aboriginal Victorians, suggests practical remedies]" (which was [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=delete&user=&page=Australia%27s+truth+commission+finds+genocide+against+Aboriginal+Victorians%2C+suggests+practical+remedies&excludetempacct=1&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist deleted] due to staleness), I asked ChatGPT very simple prompts such as "Please assess that article" and "Is my article good?", and it gave me some rather useful advice (in retrospect, I admit that I should perhaps have disclosed it on the talk pages). Of course, it's a double-edged sword, and I discarded the recommendations which seemed very nitpicky or would run against P&Gs such as [[WN:NPOV|NPOV]]. I think a responsible (if imperfect) approach would be to give a hard "Not Ready" verdict on articles that look entirely AI-generated from the beginning to the end, grant a bit of leeway for those where only a specific section or paragraph is AI-generated, add one or more sections at [[Help:AI]] for guidance on rewriting these sorts of articles, and direct contributors to both that help page and [[WN:The use of AI in generating content]]. [[User:Redireditor|<span style="color:#6C2E92">Redir</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Redireditor|<span style="color:#1245BC">editor</span>]] ('''[[User talk:Redireditor|talk]]''') 01:36, 18 February 2026 (UTC) {{comment}} In light of a recent [[User talk:Michael.C.Wright#c-Gryllida-20260224194500-BigKrow-20260224180300|suggestion to use AI tools to evaluate or fact-check AI-generated material]], and a [[Talk:Moreton Bay illegally evicted homeless campers, Queensland Supreme Court rules#AI usage declaration|recent declaration of AI use in generating a published article]], it would be helpful to clarify the scope of this proposal. If the use of AI in some capacity is considered acceptable by the original poster, then the concern being addressed here may be narrower than originally framed. If that is the case, should the proposal be revised or withdrawn so the discussion reflects that distinction more clearly? [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 02:36, 10 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that clarification is needed. AI can be used for many things while writing an article without actually creating the wikinews-authored article text itself. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:28, 4 April 2026 (UTC) === Consensus assessment and possible next steps === My read of the consensus to this point is: * Support: 3 * Oppose: 2 * Support Retracted: 1 * No stated position: 3 Support remains conditional and temporary in framing, not a blanket permanent ban. With only one-vote separation and multiple participants explicitly calling for further discussion, this still does not meet a strong consensus threshold. The thread shows more agreement on process deficiencies (review standards, workload) than on prohibition itself. Based on that, and keeping in mind that consensus is not determined by simple vote totals but by working toward a solution that reasonably addresses the main concerns raised on all sides, I suggest the following be considered for further community discussion: * Transition [[WN:AI]] from a draft guideline into a proposed policy, so its requirements and enforcement expectations are clearer. * We carefully monitor AI usage to ensure it is 1. transparent, 2. accurate, 3. NPOV. See [[:Category:AI usage declared]] as just one tool towards this end. * For a limited trial period (for example, three months), apply a standardized disclosure notice on newly published articles that involve AI assistance. (<del>someone else</del> <ins>[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]</ins> proposed this elsewhere[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals/archives/2025/November#Thinking_-_asking_-_wondering]). See [[:Template:AI disclosure]] as a proposed draft. * Reassess outcomes after the trial period to determine whether current practices are improving article quality and review reliability. Comments welcome on whether this approach reasonably addresses the concerns raised so far.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:05, 30 January 2026 (UTC) :Agreed. Works for me. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:26, 10 March 2026 (UTC) : I have tweaked [[WN:AI]] to reflect that it is a proposed policy rather than a proposed guideline. : If we are considering a reader-facing disclaimer placed directly on articles, as I understand [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals/archives/2025/November#c-Bddpaux-20251104213100-Thinking_-asking-_wondering|this suggestion]], I think it should first have clear and explicit consensus. : Please comment below indicating {{tl|support}} or {{tl|oppose}} for '''using [[Template:AI disclosure]] directly on articles for a three-month trial period'''. You may also provide specific suggestions regarding the reader-facing template. If opposing, please include a brief rationale.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:58, 26 March 2026 (UTC) ::I did not understand what change is proposed. I am already following that linked guideline and the software is already prompting to declare AI usage at submission. What would "support" change here? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:07, 27 March 2026 (UTC) : An interesting read at Slashdot, that may be informative to this discussion: [https://news.slashdot.org/story/26/04/05/2119210/will-ai-assisted-journalists-bring-errors-and-retractions Will 'AI-Assisted' Journalists Bring Errors and Retractions?]. Original article is [https://www.msn.com/en-us/technology/artificial-intelligence/an-ai-upheaval-is-coming-for-media-this-journalist-is-already-all-in/ar-AA1ZuM7j here].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 11:00, 6 April 2026 (UTC) == RfC from reviewers: verifiability policy == {{flag}} The current verifiability policy states "''The reviewer should check that all information in the article is fully sourced''". In a discussion above, [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] noted that this requires checking each piece in the published article to the letter. So for example the way I understood it from above discussion, publishing an article with note 'A bus crashed, it carried 45 customers.' with a lot of other newsy information such as 5Ws, H, a driver was drunk, driver survived with one leg injury, etc other details, would require reviewer checking everything; according to this interpretation, just checking everything else while ignoring that piece of detail about '45' (and hence risking it will be published with incorrect number) would be against the current policy. This is purposefully a bit exaggerated example to get my point across. From time to time Michael.C.Wright picked up some more serious issues in my reviews, for example one article I didn't run in copyvio check, and then he went and put a dozen of issues which weren't adequately verified or attributed or some other thing, that I am yet to look at when I am slightly less busy hopefully towards the end of this week, and proposed a retraction. That retraction discussion link is located in first sentence of the above proposal to ban AI usage at ''Wikinews''. I don't believe this is realistic to expect a reviewer to check 100% of the content in an article unless someone is hired to do such extensive reviews and another user is hired to implement the requested changes quickly (a total of 2 users hired). I believe that requiring full review will delay reviews as they are simply more time consuming for the reviewer; and this will also delay publishing because a long list of issues will be presented to an author, and an author will take longer to address them. I proposed earlier, for example, that only the 5W and H, and plagiarism, should be checked, and potentially NPOV next on the list, but I expect that checking article to the last letter of each sentence is not required. For example being satisfied that around 70% of the article was confirmed in the sources could be sufficient to publish it. I am seeking comment from each reviewer about this. Please type it into below if you do not mind. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) === Comments from reviewers === This section is just for reviewers to say how they are doing reviews or how they think they should be done, whether they should be '100% verification coverage', etc. When posting this I wanted it just to see what each reviewer is doing currently about this. It is not intended for discussion just to see the current status. Then, further down the page, this section is then followed by another section for discussion. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Acagastya|Acagastya]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Chaetodipus|Chaetodipus]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Cromium|Cromium]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ** As noted above, I would be satisfied if 5W and H was verified and ''majority'' of the article, not necessarily 100% of the article. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:RockerballAustralia|RockerballAustralia]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:SVTCobra|SVTCobra]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:ShakataGaNai|ShakataGaNai]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Tom Morris|Tom Morris]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Tyrol5|Tyrol5]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) === General discussion === General discussion. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) :[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], not sure you are the best to do this but maybe you know someone who does: need to contact each reviewer off wiki asking to comment here and to advise when available for audio call as i think that is the only way to reconnect reviewers, by having a call at least once each three months. I scream in pain as this software does not have a calendar nor a doodle built into it and I am lost. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:42, 16 January 2026 (UTC) ::Noting I tried EmailUser and had no response. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:43, 16 January 2026 (UTC) === General discussion point 2: recent change === :''For a related discussion, see [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance#Clarification about post publish and post archive edits|Clarification about post publish and post archive edits]]'' *{{comment}} I feel that what [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] is doing, by cross checking the work of other reviewers at time of archival (or insert some other 'eternity later' description here), and by flagging all possible issues that were missed as part of review, undermines two types of relationships: author to reviewer, and reviewer to reviewer. While both of these could be blamed on the reviewer who approved the story that was later scrutinized, I do not find this approach particularly fruitful for the quality of news output nor for the integrity of the project as a whole. I am seeking comment from everyone about this matter. In my opinion lowering the tolerance to omissions, as long as it does not land into plagiarism or substantial bias territory, was previously allowed and the level of cross check in the last year has unnecessarily -- and without a consultation -- increased, putting unnecessary burden on involved authors and other reviewers. I request that this workflow comes back to what it was previously. Thanks for your attention to this sentiment, and I hope to see your comments about it soon. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:00, 9 February 2026 (UTC) *:cc @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]], please reply now and tag 3 other users who weren't tagged previously, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:01, 9 February 2026 (UTC) *::There's quite a bit here and I'm not sure which three other users would even see this conversation who weren't already pinged. I can see some value in checking articles at the time of archiving to see if the process was followed optimally and maybe tagging the talk page somehow. This is more-or-less equivalent to how some proper news organizations operate, where they review their own published works and issue retractions, make corrections, etc. (it was only two days ago that I saw my feed for ''Mother Jones'' retract a story that they couldn't verify). So I agree in principle that it's worth us having an author-to-reviewer relationship that works at the time of publication and then if someone is motivated, an archiver-to-reviewer relationship. What that looks like may be an open question. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 08:59, 9 February 2026 (UTC) *:::Hey @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] My question is whether you have noticed review standards got tougher than usual in the last year? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:28, 9 February 2026 (UTC) *::::Good question, but that is not something that I have personally experienced. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 20:27, 9 February 2026 (UTC) *:::::Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 09:54, 10 February 2026 (UTC) *:::::Would you say there has been more discussions about review quality recently, than before? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 09:55, 10 February 2026 (UTC) == News schedule == Hello context * some radio have news highlight every day from 8am to 815am, and * some youtubers have $whatever new upload every week on Tuesday at noon local time. For example. As a result, Fans sweat sitting on top of their fingers in ancipation of the release on that schedule. proposal. * Could it perhaps be helpful to identify platform and format and method, to get this done here? ** Weekly, say one entry on blyesky with list of recent news over last week; and one entry via audio podcast i.e. youtube or audible or whatever has audio outputs? Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:16, 26 January 2026 (UTC) :pinging @[[User:NikosLikomitros|NikosLikomitros]] @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] @[[User:Sj|Sj]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Sbb1413|Sbb1413]] @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] @[[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] @[[User:RockerballAustralia|RockerballAustralia]] @[[User:Matthiasb|Matthiasb]] @[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] @[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] to name a few, as this output could include news from other languages. cc @[[User:Revi C.|Revi C.]], @[[User:Base|Base]] Hoping to hear your input and aim for first date of a first initial post on Feb-01 or thereabouts. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 01:45, 27 January 2026 (UTC) ::I didn't understand what exactly is being proposed? --[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] ([[User talk:Vyacheslav84|talk]]) 03:19, 28 January 2026 (UTC) :::* {{comment}} Not totally following the proposal/question, but I will say this: If an event happens '''and that event is newsworthy''' there should be some type of jetsam present that verifies it actually DID happen. Historically, an accredited reporter's notes are valid. e.g. "I watched this program/podcast/live stream on this date at this time and this thing happened then that thing happened' etc. etc. But, again, the EVENT must be newsworthy AND have solid sourcing. Because someone with the YouTube channel '''CoolDude47''' said a thing happened at his neighbor's house, that SOURCE may not be dense enough to be trustworthy. Know what I mean?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:24, 29 January 2026 (UTC) ::::*If I understand Gryllida's proposal correctly, it is that we could (a) post a weekly news roundup to Bluesky or a similar site and/or (b) post a weekly audio news roundup/"best of Wikinews" to YouTube or a similar website. At this stage, though, I don't think we are in a good position to do either of those. I'm concerned that casual readers/listeners might not realize that Wikinews's topic selection is constrained by what our contributors take the time to write as well as what our reviewers take the time to review. We're averaging much less than one new published article per day at this point, resulting in a collection of articles that could be politely described at best as "eclectic". --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 06:08, 30 January 2026 (UTC) ::::*:Correct; there's always a chance to add one short disclaimer at the beginning of the text or audio piece noting that "<name of the nickname for the Wikinews broadcast> is in beta and audience can add their news by going <here>" where <here> is a user friendly place to start. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:51, 30 January 2026 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] :::* I guess you are not familiar with the services similar to the ones i described in 'context' then. here is a wiki page about them: [[:w:PBS News Hour]]. basically they air themselves every evening at same time. :::* I am proposing Wikinews produces at least one text output and at least one audio output regularly, for example, weekly, and posts them '''at the same time of day''' on a certain day of week consistently. :::Hope this helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:48, 30 January 2026 (UTC) ::::I agree, but who will do it? --[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] ([[User talk:Vyacheslav84|talk]]) 14:43, 16 February 2026 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] one person can not do all news media so i suggest to have one person per one or two social media accounts. I created page [[Wikinews:Social media posters]] you can add your name there and name of a social media where you are going to post and under what nick. Important not to have 'Wikinews' in the account name there as this is a trademark and requires permissions from WMF. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:49, 16 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] Okay, thanks, I'll take a look! --[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] ([[User talk:Vyacheslav84|talk]]) 11:16, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::{{comment}} I mean -- it ''sounds cool'', but: '''getting it done.....'''. Know what I mean?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:13, 4 February 2026 (UTC) :::Hi [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] please see [[Wikinews:Social media posters]], if you have a friend with social media addiction, please point them to the page, thanks! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:18, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::{{comment}} It's been 14 days since we had a new article published. If our text and audio outputs were based on our new content over the past week (and they should be if we were to undertake those projects), that would mean we would have had to skip two weeks. With the risk that the Wikimedia Foundation might shut down Wikinews altogether, I think we need to focus on our primary mission of publishing news stories on this website rather than trying to take on projects in new formats. Keep in mind that reviewers/administrators would presumably have to take the time to review the text and audio outputs before they are released, and there aren't enough of them to even have the time to review all the articles that get submitted now. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 07:52, 5 February 2026 (UTC) :::14 days??? Why. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:12, 6 February 2026 (UTC) :::🫩 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:13, 6 February 2026 (UTC) :Concerns over the inability to regularly put out updates like this are well-founded, but I don't think a monthly update would be too much to ask for, and I believe it would put a sense of relevance back into WN. As said by others, the articles we currently publish are mainly based on contributors' interests and availability, which isn't always the most attractive to a general audience. Even 1-sentence updates or a collection of quotes from media would be better than nothing; there's so much going on in the world right now that there's always something readers urgently need to know, and I see it as a foundational step for building, maintaining and retaining an active readership. I would gladly take up this task, but of course it would be better if reviewer(s) are responsible so that the reviewing process can be skipped/streamlined. Not sure about the audio part, unless software/AI is used to turn a transcript into audio. I personally watch ''{{w|Last Week Tonight with John Oliver}}'' and ''{{w|Weekend Update}}'', so I believe in the attractiveness of such updates. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 12:10, 12 February 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:HKLionel|HKLionel]] ::* I think submissions sized 100-150 words are the easiest to review, even if they do not possess much coverage value. That's the easiest way to get through the reviewing process. NOT MORE because it is pain to review. And not less because that is too short for pass. ::* There are three high quality submissions in queue. Each of them would take me a week to 'fully review'. Presumably, if I attempt one of them tonight, that will be an express review... ::Regards, - [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:59, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::Yes, so I suppose a coordinated effort by reviewers/making it the responsibility of a reviewer would make it more efficient. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 16:23, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :I just had the thought that we could borrow from Wikipedia's [[w:WP:ITN|in the news]] and [[w:P:C|current events portal]]. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 18:12, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::Borrow what? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:35, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :::Content for, as I suggested above, a monthly update. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 01:28, 25 February 2026 (UTC) ::I also discovered [[:ja:ウィキニュース:短信]] (news bulletins). This is a format I'd like to see emulated. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 02:39, 25 February 2026 (UTC) == Streak themed competition proposal == Propose to encourage a user to author and publish, or reviewer to review and publish, at least one story every two weeks. Like a [[:w:streak]]. At end of a competition period, suggest for 6 months (12 fortnights), the no. of maximum consecutive fortnights would be computed for each participant. For example, if I started and was major contributor to article on week 1, 3, 7, 9, 11, then my streaks are '1 and 3' (streak of 2), then '7 and 9 and 11' (streak of 3), I would score '3'. Top 10 participant would get a T-shirt or mug or some other object with a number (i.e. 'This user archived a 6 fortnight streak in English Wikinews in 2026' worded fancily and with fancy picture.) delivered to their desired postal address. Not sure how to fund this, but I think there may be a few people who want to donate to that purpose. if you wanted to donate please specify payment method. cc [[User:Pharos|Pharos]] as I think you might be able to get support from NYC for this perhaps. thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:02, 20 February 2026 (UTC) :created page [[Wikinews:2026 streak competition]] thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:12, 21 February 2026 (UTC) ::I think I could attempt this. [[User:CheatCodes4ever|Cheat]][[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|Codes]][[Special:Contributions/CheatCodes4ever|4ever]] ([[User:CheatCodes4ever/sandbox|sandbox]] | [[m:Special:CentralAuth/CheatCodes4ever|CentralAuth]]) 20:41, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] thank you, nice. 🙂 Is 'every 2 weeks' a good time frame? Or better 1 or 4 weeks? Whre do you think it could be funded from? Also, how long to run it for: 12 weeks or 24 weeks? Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:59, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] please add your name on that section [[Wikinews:2026_streak_competition#Interested_users|section 'interested users signup']] Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:25, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::::{{ping|Gryllida}} Two weeks sounds reasonable to me. [[User:CheatCodes4ever|Cheat]][[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|Codes]][[Special:Contributions/CheatCodes4ever|4ever]] ([[User:CheatCodes4ever/sandbox|sandbox]] | [[m:Special:CentralAuth/CheatCodes4ever|CentralAuth]]) 20:36, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :::::great thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:42, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :The prizes would probably need to be worked out later, but this is a great idea and I'm interested. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 01:47, 25 February 2026 (UTC) == Install inline comments == https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InlineComments Could this be installed here? It would be easuer to use than the current system, where highlight is a pain to delete on visual editor, and comment is hidden on talk tab. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 10:11, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :I find it unlikely that devs will add it, considering the status of Wikinews. I support you making a ticket at [[:phab:]] if you feel like it's warranted. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 17:23, 23 February 2026 (UTC) ::That would require consensus from the community. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 20:32, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :::thatas what i am asking about. would you support installation of such an extension here? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:43, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :::Which is why I was trying to provide my vote of approval. I did make that unclear, so I apologize: while I don't know that this will be successfully implemented, I am in favor of you requesting it <em>pending others weighing in and a general consensus that others feel the same way</em>. Again, sorry for suggesting that individuals unilaterally request new features. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 21:39, 23 February 2026 (UTC) ::::yeah i got it [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:03, 23 February 2026 (UTC) ::lets see if using [[:w:Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation#inline_comments|enwp lever]] works. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:34, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :::They [[:w:Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Proposal_to_install_the_'Inline_comments'_MediaWiki_extension_for_Draft_namespace|are being quite positive, including PHP maintainership]], and suggest development of a gadget as prototype. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:59, 1 March 2026 (UTC) :Same as Justin, though the WP discussions don't seem promising. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 01:53, 25 February 2026 (UTC) :Just to mention, it is not exactly like inline comments, but EzPR 2025 will include a feature called "Dynamic Marking" under the Sentence Marking section. When enabled, it will use a global gadget to load and display specific sentences that have been highlighted and marked by the reviewer on the article. :This is not fully implemented yet, the global script integration still needs to be completed. However, the idea is to provide a more dynamic approach to sentence-specific highlights and unsourced sentence marking.The data for each marked sentence, including its associated issue, will be stored on a JSON page. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:21, 28 February 2026 (UTC) ::Hi [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ::* I believe the dynamically marked comments, as currently implemented in EZPR2, have two disadvantages compared with the extension. First, they can be difficult to remove when working in the visual editor. Second, the extension provides a more user-friendly interface for replying to comments about a specific phrase in the article without having to switch to the talk page and back. ::* That said, one possible improvement to the extension would be to post a copy of the inline comment discussion to the article’s talk page when the comment is removed. This could be offered as an optional feature in the extension. At present, the discussion remains only in the article’s edit history, which may not be ideal, as the talk page is generally expected to serve as the central record of discussions about previous revisions of the article. ::Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:53, 28 February 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: I was not aware that there was interest in developing the extension as a gadget, which is, in my opinion, a much more practical and better approach. When the gadget is ready, I think we could also integrate it with EzPR 2025 to allow marking and commenting on specific text within an article. Therefore, I am dropping the Dynamic Marking approach within EzPR. :::Just to clarify regarding your comment: "''First, they can be difficult to remove when working in the visual editor.''" - I believe you may be referring to the current approach of wrapping text with templates. Dynamic Marking '''was not''' designed in that way; it was intended to function more like inline comments. Additionally, EN wikinews currently does not have the VisualEditor enabled. So even if that concern were valid, the current approach would not cause issues in this specific context. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 05:56, 1 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Actually, in Wikipedia there is a dying backlog queue of drafts for review, to create a new page in Wikipedia, users may often have to wait 2-6 months while page is sitting in Draft: namespace. So, I wanted to suggest the gadget separate, then it can be added to ENWP for draft review. For this space here in Wikinews, having the gadget installed there at ENWP could be a part of leverage to get the extension installed in Wikimedia wikis, including here, eventually. Knowing how ENWP centric the ecosystem is. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:33, 1 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Btw, inline comment doesn't show which phrase it was referring to, and neither does an inline citation. Only one cursor position. And inline comments were such a pain to edit in VE... For once they are not even visible until clicked or something. :( [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:34, 1 March 2026 (UTC) == Should we reconsider our stance on wikilinking == Our [[Wikinews:Style_guide#Wikilinking_an_article|Style guide states]] "Do not over-wikify articles. Link only particularly relevant background material." I believe the reasoning can be found in [[Wikinews:Categories#Wikilinks_and_redirects|this essay]], which states "Don't use wikilinks for basic information: a news article should stand on its own, understandable without consulting some other page along the way." As a community, I believe we have strayed from this practice considerably. A drift towards more wikilinking, in my opinion, is part of our broader drift from being a journalism project first to a wiki project first and a journalism project second. While over-wikilinking has not been an impediment to publication (that I'm aware of), it is something we should either be actively addressing (reducing) or something we should remove from our policies and guidelines. Please comment below how you feel about over-wikilinking and if you feel we should keep, remove, or update the recommendation. Justifying your response would be most helpful, but a simple !vote might suffice. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:27, 27 February 2026 (UTC) Some useful polling templates might be: *{{remove}} {{tl|remove}} *{{keep}} {{tl|keep}} *{{weak delete}} {{tl|weak delete}} *{{weak keep}} {{tl|weak keep}} === Comments === * {{keep}} especially for the lede. A link away from ''Wikinews'' is an invitation to stop reading our content and start reading someone else's. I also agree that the quality of our articles should be high enough that readers can fully understand the topic without going elsewhere for additional information. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:27, 27 February 2026 (UTC) *{{weak keep}} I am unsure if I have a passionate opinion here, but I will agree that the wikilinking has gotten a bit out of control. In the very least: most of our wikilinking should simply point to a new place at WN. This isn't Wikipedia. And: I '''2000% agree''' that we've lost our 'scope' of journalism first, wiki second. That is not even mentioning the 3,000 people involved with WMF that can only view us as a wiki ONLY. That has been a never ending war. Even some of us here: Admins etc. etc. -- we (including myself) sometimes get lost in the weeds on what is happening at this place: get the news, write the news, submit the news.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:32, 27 February 2026 (UTC) *:Just commenting what I see in this... *:* Obvious words like "cat" or "dog" are not supposed to be wikilinked. Not to point of wikilinking every second word in a page. *:* More complex names (for me it includes name of ''any'' US state, for instance, i never knew where they are and am not going to try to build a US map in my head, and many readers are overseas) that are not understood by foreigner or by someone new to that topic, could and should be wikilinked. *:* Adding a brief note to a thing is good. At some point I added a note like ", a state in east coast of United States," for something, for that reason. *:* Sport articles, for example, suffer a lot from lack of explanations. :S *:* Also this approach gave advantage that items that ''are'' wikilinked do, eventually in an utopic world when news writing is an everyday thing, become wikilinks to local categories about that event series or place or topic in ''news'' context, with a feed for that. For example there is no category "Dog". Or [[court]]. Or something. *:* If I removed a wikilink, I should probably feel compelled to either add a brief note or add a local news-feed (category) link. *:* A reviewer can do such minor chanhe if needed. *:* And I personally do not see any reason to change that policy in its current version. *:[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:00, 28 February 2026 (UTC) *{{weak delete}} Admittedly, having too many wikilinks looks bad. But we should not discourage Wikinews writers from including ''useful'' links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is our sister project, not a competitor. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 05:31, 28 February 2026 (UTC) *'''comment''' - There are two quotes that were mentioned, the style guide, which says "''"Do not over-wikify articles. Link only particularly relevant background material."''", and an under construction essay called "'''Categories'''", abandoned in 2021, which for reasons I can't quite figure out mentions wikilinks. When being asked "''Please comment below how you feel about over-wikilinking and if you feel we should keep, remove, or update the recommendation.''", it's not entirely clear what "the recommendation" is. Maybe I seem like I'm being obtuse but I'm having trouble interpreting all the !votes and figuring out where I stand on an issue presented as a simply yes/no question but that lacks the needed clarity. If just a comment is being sought, I can provide that of course. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 03:47, 10 March 2026 (UTC) == Software suggestion to notify all users eligible to vote == For requests regarding permission, removal of permission, or accreditation, I suggest developing a tool that notifies all eligible users and includes a link where they can provide comments, ask questions, and cast their vote; and with a note how they can opt out of receiving such messages (if desired). I believe similar tools have been used on other wikis, such as Commons or Meta. Since this wiki is relatively small and some recent requests have received very few votes for an extended period, such a tool could help increase participation and prevent discussions from remaining open indefinitely. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:40, 1 March 2026 (UTC) == Suggestion for [[Wikinews:Writing an article]] == At [[Wikinews:Writing an article#Starting out]], it says: :If the story has not been started, you can begin it by entering an appropriate title below and clicking "Create article". :Here are ''Wikinews'' [[Wikinews:Style guide#Headlines|article title rules and guidelines]]. I suggest that we add something like this to the above: "The article title should '''identify the news event''' that the article is about. A person's name alone, or a company name alone, should not be an article title." I am assuming that some people are indeed creating articles by starting from [[Wikinews:Writing an article]] but not reading the linked article title rules and guidelines (this assumption might be incorrect). That seems to be how we get such soon-to-be-deleted drafts as [[Rumi Von-Clarke]], [[Daud Muhammed]], and [[Zakariah gmb services]], all of which were tagged for speedy deletion on their second edits. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 14:13, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :I support this. That seems like a reasonable assumption. This might pull in a few contributors who get discouraged at first. I don't really follow them; what is the typical path a new editor who creates one of those articles takes? Do they stop editing? Silently? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:39, 6 March 2026 (UTC) ::I'm cool with that. I just hope new reporters read it. The '''event''' is the thing.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:52, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :Works for me. This could be a draft title, and when the user is ready to submit it for review, they can choose a better, more representative title if it is not already set. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:57, 6 March 2026 (UTC) == The future == I'll try to be quick here: We are a small village. There is a kind of poison that works its way in here at times -- people can (and do) begin treating this place as a general wiki, after they've been here for about 6 months. <br>I am writing these words as encouragement, not to scold -- please note that. I am going to (for the remainder of 2026) focus very much on Reviewing and encouraging new reporters. This is a news site. We have policies and guidelines. I will try very hard to adhere to those -- and I ask all other people here to focus on that very thing. Good things ahead. [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:19, 6 March 2026 (UTC) == New tool for inline comments: DynamicMarking. == Hello, a new tool is now available that enables reviewers to attach inline comments to specific phrases in a draft article. This means phrases can be marked by a reviewer to highlight issues without actually editing the article. Phrases that have been marked will appear highlighted in yellow. Non-reviewers can view them, but they will not be able to edit or remove the attached comments or markings. However, users can mark a specific highlight as "resolved". This gadget allows users to quickly identify the exact text in an article that needs modification or changes. Reviewers using the EzPR2025 gadget for review will find the "Dynamic Marking" feature integrated into it. However, the tool can also be used independently of EzPR2025. Full documentation is available at: [[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)/DynamicMarking|WN:EzPR2025/Dynamic Marking]]. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 08:07, 14 March 2026 (UTC) == Review que == there are currently nibe articles in review que going stale. I cannot review ''any'' of them because I either wrote them or they're original research. Can someone please get going on a review? This site must publish one article per day to remain a viable destination. Also, I am not going to be able to volunteer any more time writing articles here if everything I wrote this week goes stale for no good reason. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:41, 20 March 2026 (UTC) : For me, the deeper issue is a difference in what level of quality we are trying to achieve. Our Policies and Guidelines were written by a generation aiming for a much higher standard than what the current generation, broadly speaking, appears willing or able to sustain. The way we are collectively navigating that gap is creating friction (to put it politely) and, in practice, a status quo of low output. : We need to resolve that tension. Either we reform our PaGs to reflect a more achievable standard, or we raise the quality of our work to meet them. : Given the ongoing friction, I find myself looking for other ways to contribute here, if at all. I know at least one other reviewer has expressed a similar view. : I believe this quality–output tension is a central factor behind the SPTF’s recommendation to close Wikinews. I understand the logic behind that recommendation: we have not yet demonstrated that a citizen journalism model can reliably and consistently sustain high output, high quality, and a meaningful wiki process all at the same time.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:04, 20 March 2026 (UTC) ::If there is a problem regarding the quality of my contributions to this project, then nobody has said anything about that to me whatsoever. I submit my articles in the best shape possible and I still feel like I have to make a scene just to get someone to even look at my submissions. This is starting to look like what I assumed was going to happen if I started reviewing -- me being expected to pick up the entire review workload -- because literally nothing will get published orherwise -- while my own submissions are just forgotten and left to rot in the review que, and hours of my personal time are just wasted. I believe this project has potential but I dont know how to proceed if nothing else is being done to fix the problem that multiple users have been bitching about for months'''. This project will be shut down if the status quo continues. ''' [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:41, 20 March 2026 (UTC) ::: There was no specific target in my earlier comment. I was speaking more generally about what feels like a broader tension on the project. ::: To clarify: it seems we may not all be applying the same review standard in practice. I’m not referring to you or anyone else ''specifically''. There appears to be some preference, broadly speaking, for getting articles published once they are “good enough,” even if not every statement has been explicitly checked against a source or clearly attributed, with the expectation that the wiki process can refine things later. ::: On the other hand, our existing policies and guidelines lean toward a stricter approach, where each statement is expected to be supported or removed before publication. That gap — between what the standards say and what is realistically being applied — is where I see a lot of the friction coming from. ::: I may be misreading that, but that’s the issue I was trying to point to. ::: On the concern about you being expected to carry the review workload, I’m not sure the recent activity reflects that. Publishing has been shared among a small group of reviewers, and you’ve been a significant part of that (thank you!), but not the sole contributor.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=review&user=&page=&excludetempacct=1&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B%5D=newusers&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:12, 21 March 2026 (UTC) ::::I understand enforcing the rigorous policies for quality control, I just feel there have been too many times where a reviewer has requested revisions after an article I authored has been submitted, the requested changes are promptly made, but the reviewer just goes radio silent immediately afterward and the articles just goes stale waiting for review. It's hard to really feel motivated to make revisions to or gatwick articles I write because they have mostly just been getting left to rot these past few months. I'm not sure the community understands how much human labor power is actually just being wasted due to this failed process. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:58, 21 March 2026 (UTC) :::::i published one, others to follow during the week if i manage [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 13:03, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :::::it was noted elsewhere that 'a few' reviewers are required for the site to work. like i woukd say around 2-3 is a bare minimum 💀 when only 1 or 2, then, very hard to get things moving. I will also try to write one during the week for you to review! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 13:05, 22 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:11, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] what is the issue with reviewing OR? Do you have scoop access? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 13:03, 22 March 2026 (UTC) ::I dont know how to verify sources with original research. How am I supposed to review an event or interview I did not attend? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:08, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :::you can cross check it against reporters notes. They are shared privately with scoop, an address that accredited reporters and reviewers can read. If you do not have a wn-reporters account, please email me with your desired username, and i will email you the login instructions. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 14:32, 22 March 2026 (UTC) ::::If it helps any, I have two stories currently waiting that are OR. [[Musique Libre Femmes plays for Women's History Month at Tompkins Square Library in New York City]] requires scoop access but I tried deliberately to make [[The Performance Space in New York City holds its annual gala honoring three artists]] verifiable using only the pictures I provided in the article and a few of the pre-event sources. This is even easier now, as since I wrote the material (immediately after it happened), some genuine sources have come out which also corroborate my OR (which I added).. So that one shouldn't be too difficult. I also made it deliberately short so we could publish it fast... [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:35, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :::::Are we able to publish OR ten days after the focal point event? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:45, 23 March 2026 (UTC) :::::: Generally, yes.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:31, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::How long do we have? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:40, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: Unfortunately, this is one of the many areas where there is no hard-and-fast rule. [[WN:Fresh]] merely states: :::::::: <blockquote>Exclusive content has the potential to extend our freshness horizon by days or even weeks, depending on the nature of the original material. </blockquote> :::::::: Somewhere there is a relatively recent discussion that involved MeDaWikipedian I believe, in which some consensus formed around eight weeks as a max limit. I'll find it but it might take some time.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:50, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: Not much of a consensus for 8 weeks, but it may still be useful to cite as recent precedent when defending publication of material up to that age: [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance/archives/2024/September#Photo exhibition “Ethnic features of the world people” took place in the Crimean capital]][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 02:14, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: If you'd like some advice on it, let me know what article you are talking about and what you're thinking as far as why it is still publishable. If you'd rather do it quietly, feel free to use wikimail or email.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 02:17, 24 March 2026 (UTC) == Proposal to auto-"stale" from review queue == If an article was submitted for review on day N, then on day N+8 could it automatically mark itself as stale? This could help clear out the queue from the old end. I picked number 8 because usually an article does not get published about events over seven days old; I may be deluded there so please adjust the number of days as needed. Alternatively, the "review" template could change to "abandoned" after 7 days. I am suggesting to get this decided and implemented some time soon. It would reduce the load on reviewers and sysops, in my opinion. Something similar was done for another template before, but I do not remember which. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:59, 24 March 2026 (UTC) == Improving review visibility and collaboration for draft articles == I propose increasing visibility and collaboration around drafts and their talk pages so more users can contribute to review and copyediting. That could help authors who aren’t keeping up with reviewer requests and would be more like a scientific journal process where at least two people check a page before publication. Since the software supports pre-reviews, we could encourage everyone to pre-review more broadly. Proposed actions: 1. Add a friendly site notice inviting users to join a “newsroom” and review at least one article per day. Link to a Newsroom guide explaining categories: Drafts = need pre-review, expand, submit for review Queue = possibly ready; check carefully and flag issues Disputed = issues found; fix and resubmit That page like [[Wikinews:Newsroom]] but a mini-version: with only one paragraph intro linking to key policies; three lists (draft, review, disputed) one paragraph before each; one list (published in last three days) also one para explaining process of improving or cross checking those. That could be more user friendly for newbies than the current "everything and a kitchen sink" current version. 2. On submission, automatically leave the user a message with a request to pre-review at least two pages from the Newsroom, again linking to its over simplified version, perhaps even transcluding it to the user's talk page (via subst, so only then-current version is included in the message) as then they do not need to open the Newsroom link to see the topics being written about in the new drafts. These steps should speed feedback to authors and surface more issues before publishing, and bring more hands to fix them. Hope this is helpful. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:10, 27 March 2026 (UTC) 3. At submission, present user a button "pre-review my own article" which is like pre-review process they do for article they just submitted. 2a. Example: [[User:Gryllida/MiniNewsroom]] --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:31, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :4. Add button "mark as stale" to the develop template. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:32, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Online workshop for training new reviewers == Hello everyone, to help increase the number of active reviewers on English Wikinews and support interested contributors in understanding the review process, I would like to propose organizing a structured, documentation-based online workshop. Given that live video sessions may not be feasible for many participants, this workshop would primarily be text-based and hosted on-wiki (with optional use of chat platforms for discussion). However, if any experienced reviewer is interested in contributing via a presentation or live session, that would certainly be welcome. The workshop would be divided into 4-5 sections, each focusing on a specific aspect of the reviewing process. These may include: * Introduction to the role and responsibilities of a reviewer * Core review criteria (newsworthiness, neutrality, verifiability, freshness, copyvio) * Source verification and common issues in articles * The review workflow (from submission to publication) * Post-publication review and maintenance Each section would include short explanatory materials (text, slides, or diagrams), followed by practical tasks. These tasks could include answering questions, identifying issues in sample articles, or performing a simulated review. Participants who complete the workshop should gain a clearer understanding of how reviewing works in practice. Rather than replacing the existing reviewer nomination process, the workshop could serve as a preparation pathway, helping participants build the skills and confidence needed before being nominated. Additionally, participants who demonstrate strong understanding during the workshop could be encouraged or mentored further as potential reviewer candidates. To keep the workshop effective, participation may be limited to a small group. We would likely need at least 2-3 experienced reviewers to help guide discussions, review responses, and provide feedback. I would be happy to help prepare materials such as slides, flowcharts, and example articles. I would appreciate the community's thoughts on this idea: Would such a workshop be useful? Would any reviewers be interested in helping organize or mentor participants? Are there improvements or alternative approaches we should consider? Thank you. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:12, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :*'''Support''' I would've started reviewing much sooner of there was something like this in place. Why there doesn't already exist something similar to this is beyond me. :[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:05, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :* I can also assist in creating JS-based interactive quizzes, annotation projects, a peer review comment writing playground, and other interactive tools for the workshop, which I think will make it more engaging and fun. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 17:37, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :*:That seems good but is being hindered by needing to process [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard#Board_of_Trustees_Approves_Closure_of_Wikinews the hosting change]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == The last Wikinews article == Since the site will be frozen after May 4, I would like to suggest that we plan to have the top headline on the last day be something along the lines of "Wikinews closes after 21 years; community moves to Miraheze" or something like that. If the top headline is going to be permanently in place after that, it ought to be something that commemorates the ending of Wikinews. I wouldn't want the headline that the site has to live with permanently to be something like "Small town car accident results in nearly $200 in damage, no injuries". Of course, this presumes that we can have an article commemorating the site's closure ready and approved on May 3, but it will also require the cooperation of reviewers not to put something else in the lead headline position at the last minute. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 14:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :{{Support}}: I think this could be some type of original report. Even if a full article is not possible, I do think we should leave a message on the main page. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:17, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :{{support}} I proposed the same elsewhere (after you did). —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :[[Wikinews closes after 21 years]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:24, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{Support}} But: it will a long time before I come back here. Not being ugly about it. Maybe Michael can publish it. I'm about to sign out.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 02:07, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :{{Neutral}} Don't care. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:24, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Not sure if we 100% are moving to other host, though we should prep the article already, and post by May 3 -- should there be any changes, we do it before the project is RO (read-only). If someone is up for writing it -- I shall be there to review it. PS: please come to IRC, if you all can.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 09:37, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::: I think the article would greatly benefit from someone from the previous generation of contributors to write about how the modern review process came about, the various journalism schools/classes we worked with at the time, etc. That time was our peak in regards to readership and activity and is therefore the most consequential for us as a project. ::: I know @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] has links to external sites which praised the work of en.WN during those periods. Those could/should be used as sources, quoted, etc. ::: See: [[Wikinews closes after 21 years]][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 06:48, 4 April 2026 (UTC) == Future stewardship of Wikinews == As per [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Public_consultation_about_Wikinews#c-Sj-20260401032800-Victoria-20260330090000 this comment] by @[[User:Sj|Sj]], Wikimedia NYC and task force members are discussing the possible stewardship of Wikinews by [[meta:Wikimedia New York City]]. Also ping: @[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:56, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Proposal to cease publishing after around April 14 == Hello, as resources are required for migration, I am proposing to set a date after which articles will not be published. Maybe around mid-April. Then, a week later, clear the review queue and finish any maintenance tasks and walk away. Then this would leave around two weeks to setup a new site. Otherwise, I am concerned migration will be under-resourced. cc @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] who quite rightfully in my opinion wrote [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ASupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_Christians_of_crimes_against_the_humanity_of_gays_and_lesbians_in_a_landmark_ruling&diff=5003903&oldid=5003259 that]. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:06, 5 April 2026 (UTC) *If there is time to get new articles published during the second half of April, I think it should be allowed. The migration may be a more important priority, but not all the admins will necessarily be involved with that nor will it necessarily take up all their time. We are still getting submissions, albeit not many good ones. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 17:23, 7 April 2026 (UTC) * {{oppose}} I agree with [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] above. We could continue developing and publishing articles that reflect what we aimed to achieve: accurate, neutral reporting, provided reviewers are willing to perform full and complete reviews. More psuedo-reviews would be [[Wikinews:Deletion requests#Supreme Court of Finland convicts individuals and institutions involved in writing and publishing pamphlet for inciting hatred against gays and lesbians|counterproductive]]. : That said, it is already April 13 and there have been no substantive updates on migration, use of the name or logo, or related decisions. If the community waits for those before preparing for read-only, there will likely not be enough time (or community will) to complete the work. For that reason, some of us have already started shutting the lights down. See the following discussions: : :* [[Wikinews:Admin action alerts#Administrative matters for the closure]] :* [[Wikinews:Admin action alerts#In anticipation of DPL being disabled]] :* [[#The last Wikinews article]] (discussion above, article located [[Wikinews:Story preparation/Wikinews closes after 21 years|here]]) : : Currently I am prioritizing admin/maintenance/shut-down work but am also willing to do reviewer work if no other reviewers are willing. I am also prepared to review and publish the [[Wikinews:Story preparation/Wikinews closes after 21 years|last article]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:03, 13 April 2026 (UTC) d9323zwfhoz5olylw20ob37prmq97i9 5007835 5007762 2026-04-14T02:50:32Z Tduk 411937 /* Proposal to cease publishing after around April 14 */ Reply 5007835 wikitext text/x-wiki <span style="font-size: 68%;">''Page last updated:''&nbsp;'''{{CURRENTDAYNAME}}&nbsp;{{CURRENTDAY2}} at&nbsp;{{evalx|(apply + (split (get-arg 2) ":"))|{{CURRENTTIME}}}}'''&nbsp;[[w:UTC|UTC]].&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 90%;" class="plainlinks"> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style="font-size: 90%;">'''[{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=purge}} Refresh]</span> [[File:Gtk-refresh.svg|20px|link={{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=purge}}|Refresh this page]]'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /></span> __NEWSECTIONLINK__ [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals/Archive|Archive]] <inputbox> bgcolor=transparent type=fulltext prefix=Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals break=yes width=50 searchbuttonlabel=Search current discussions and archives </inputbox> ---- {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals/archives/%(year)d/%(monthname)s |algo = old(60d) |counter = 1 |minthreadsleft = 1 }} {{Watercooler archivebox}} __TOC__ <!-- Don't touch anything above this line. --> == Limit the FlaggedRevs extension to the article namespace? == Regarding the FlaggedRevs extension in this project, I would like to propose both of the following: # We limit the namespace to only 0 (article namespace), since other namespaces are not considered to be reader material. # Set <code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes</code> to <code>0</code> (<code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes = 0</code>), which should no longer allow FlaggedRevs to detect the stable version of templates in articles, if available. I have done [[:b:en:Wikibooks:Reading room/Proposals#Limit some namespaces on this project's FlaggedRevs extension?|a similar proposal]] months ago on English Wikibooks. Thoughts? [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 06:07, 5 January 2026 (UTC) : I like the idea. I'd like to see what other, more technical folks have to say before officially supporting it. We may also benefit from waiting until en.WB completes their change to see what issues they run into in the process. : We would need to organize a small project team to go through all templates and deal with unsighted changes before the config change, to ensure unsighted changes aren't either lost or auto-sighted, depending on how the process handles unsighted changes. : We also are waiting for the WMF Board to announce their decision on the recommendation to close all Wikinews. There would be no sense in doing the work if they are closing the project.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:23, 5 January 2026 (UTC) ::If there is a plan to migrate the wiki to new hosting, then any last minute changes would also be migrated. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:22, 5 January 2026 (UTC) :: Wikibooks has already done this. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 20:05, 5 January 2026 (UTC) :::Yeah and what was their motivation? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:24, 5 January 2026 (UTC) ::::On English Wikibooks, we wanted to limit FlaggedRevs to article content namespaces, and it worked, but not before we also had to implement <code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes = 0</code> too. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 19:09, 7 January 2026 (UTC) :::::I did not understand why. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:40, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::In the context of article content namespaces, that would be the mainspace, Cookbook, and Wikijunior. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:29, 23 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] In short, because otherwise banners like [[phab:F69801009]] would have been irremovably present on pages transcluding a template that (a) had once been reviewed, & (b) hadn't yet had its most recent version reviewed. This is probably a bug in FlaggedRevs itself ([[phab:T411328]]), but given the extension's [[phab:T185664|current maintenance situation]], I wouldn't personally expect it to necessarily be fixed anytime soon. (In case you're interested, I left a bit of a longer explanation on phab at [[phab:T408110#11370668]] & on en.wikibooks in [[b:en:special:gotocomment/c-A_smart_kitten-20251115215100-Codename_Noreste-20251115190500|this comment]].) Best, [[user:a smart kitten|a smart kitten]] ([[user talk:a smart kitten|talk]]) 13:04, 18 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::(Oh, I just realised that you might not have been asking about why enwikibooks also set <code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes</code> to <code>0</code>. Apologies if so :p) [[user:a smart kitten|a smart kitten]] ([[user talk:a smart kitten|talk]]) 13:05, 18 February 2026 (UTC) :Hi [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]], what is the motivation for these two proposed changes? What would they improve? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:21, 5 January 2026 (UTC) ::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], I replied above. I saw the [[Wikinews:Reviewing articles|article review policy]] about the following: {{tq|Please note that only users who have the reviewer permission should review and publish articles.}} Because of that, I think it would make sense to only limit FlaggedRevs to just the article namespace only. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 00:23, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::The current setup allows anyone to edit a template and it would only become visible on other pages after a reviewer approves the edit. So, the change that is being proposed, would make it harder for non-reviewer users to make minor changes to templates and other non-(Main) pages: instead of just clicking 'edit' they would need to go to talk page and request a change there. On the plus side however, it would relieve reviewers from ''that'' (non-Main) backlog. I am fine either way; I am neutral on this issue. If needed, I can help with the implementation of a change if it was desired. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:01, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::: {{tq|The current setup allows anyone to edit a template}} :::: This is not true. Many are edit-protected to one degree or another. For example, no one but administrators can edit [[Template:Source]] and only an admin+reviewer can sight the change. :::: {{tq|the change that is being proposed, would make it harder for non-reviewer users to make minor changes to templates'}} :::: Disabling Flagged Revs would not make it harder to make changes to templates. It would make changes immediately visible everywhere the template is transcluded. :::: {{tq|instead of just clicking 'edit' they would need to go to talk page and request a change there.'}} :::: What you are describing here is edit protection, not flagged revs. When templates use flagged revs, changes made by ''anyone'' must be sighted or approved by a reviewer. If the template is protected such as template:source to admin-only level, we need someone who is both reviewer ''and'' admin to make and sight the change. :::: {{tq|On the plus side however, it would relieve reviewers from ''that'' (non-Main) backlog.'}} :::: Removing flagged revs would reduce the number of changes that need to be approved, but currently only by 14%. The remaining 195 changes still need to be processed. :::: Removing flagged revs from templates will not only make it easier to maintain our templates, it will also reduce our risk if something should go wrong with the flagged revs.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:44, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::::1. OK, make it harder to edit ''some'' templates. (Not all are edit protected.) :::::2. It would make it harder for editing ''some'' templates - those that are not edit protected. :::::3. Not really interested in that scenario; interested in those that are not edit protected. Those that are edit protected, it is correct that they require an admin and a reviewer with current setup, and only a admin with proposed setup. But that was not the point that I was raising. :::::3a. Setting <pre>$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['review'] = true; //allow administrators to review revisions</pre> could be an option, if needed. A request would need to be made that sysops only work outside of main namespace, and possibly only with cosmetic edits to main namespace. That too would reduce reviewers backlog as they would not need to sight changes where a vandal did something and it was undone back identical to previous revision, or minor formatting and punctuation edits. :::::4. Ok, fine. By 14% is still helpful. :::::2, 4. It is not called "removing / disabling flaggedrevs", it is called "disabling flaggedrevs on namespaces that are not main". Removing it implies removing the extension from the wiki altogether, and is not a part of this proposal. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:38, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::::: {{tq|make it harder to edit ''some'' templates}} :::::: Disabling flagged revs in template space won't make it harder to edit ''any'' templates. It will allow for changes to be immediately transcluded, without requiring changes to be sighted (approved). :::::: Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are trying to say here. But since you are neutral on the change, maybe it also doesn't matter that I can't make sense of it.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:09, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::as I said earlier, if those templates that are under flaggedrevs control now will become protected, they will become harder for non-(privleged) users to edit. I am assuming that they will be protected. there was no consensus here on making them free for anyone to edit. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:07, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :* {{support}}: I do think it would be a better idea to limit it to the main namespace only. As I understand it, the primary focus of the Reviewers user group is to review and evaluate articles and publish them, along with related changes. This would certainly reduce the additional, less important pending changes burden in other namespaces. But, before implementing this as Michael.C.Wright suggests, all current non mainspace changes should be sighted first. Besides that, I do not currently have any other points against this in mind. :-- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:22, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::Pinging [[User:A smart kitten|A smart kitten]] to my FlaggedRevs proposal here, as they might know a little bit more about this extension than we do. I'll probably file a task for this today, given that some are in favor of this change. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 15:18, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::2 yes and 1 neutral. I would suggest wait a bit more before filing task. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:57, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::To be clear, I wouldn't say I'm an expert on FlaggedRevs by any means :p - I just know a bit that I looked into while working on [[phab:T408110]] :) :::I left a note re <code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes</code> [[#c-A_smart_kitten-20260218130400-Gryllida-20260111164000|above]], but feel free to ping me if there are any other questions about the proposal from a technical perspective. Best, [[user:a smart kitten|a smart kitten]] ([[user talk:a smart kitten|talk]]) 13:09, 18 February 2026 (UTC) : {{Support}} Since I didn't make that explicit...apologies. : I should have time later today to work through the pending changes to templates if someone doesn't get to them sooner.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:01, 17 February 2026 (UTC) : <strike>Aside from the one above waiting on [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]],</strike> we have all pending changes to templates done. I can keep an eye on them and sight them as a priority until we get the flagged revs disabled for template namespace.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:59, 17 February 2026 (UTC) : The Phabricator ticket for the request has been closed as 'resolved.'[https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418066] : I checked [[Template:Source]] and [[Template:Date]] to test, and verified that I no longer have the option to ''Submit changes'' as opposed to ''Save changes'' and there is no option to "Mark this version as reviewed" as expected if FlaggedRevs were disabled for templates. : I think we should leave this discussion open for a week or two longer, just in case we run across any issues. Thank you @[[User:Pppery|Pppery]], @[[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]], and @[[User:A smart kitten|A smart kitten]]![[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 00:23, 25 March 2026 (UTC) === Protecting templates === : I am working through the pending changes to templates now. I think it would be wise to protect all templates to 'auto-confirm' accounts as a minimum, not changing any existing protection levels. A lot of the pending changes so far include reverted vandalism (this is good, it is being found and reverted quickly). Many of the vandals are IP/temp accounts, which presumably haven't yet been auto-confirmed. : That could be a lot of tedious work to do up front, but may pay off in the long run. : Any thoughts/objections?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:35, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::Do you have a few examples? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:48, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::: Feel free to look through the edit history/recent changes. I was typically descriptive using 'vandalism undone.'[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:49, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::: I just hit this one, so here's an example: [[Template:TScope/ex/doc]]. ::: Feel free to take action on it.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:51, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::::Hi ::::Ah yes. Those were not edit protected, and anyone could edit them. For when nobody looking, that backlog is pretty tame... ::::#I personally would think that edit protect them makes sense only if the proposed change was to go ahead - ::::# but then, I would suggest to make them "reviewer or admin only" as is more similar to like the current setup, where the intent is for the edit to be checked by a privileged user. Relying on recent change patrolling may not work well on a small wiki that is news focused. ::::# In any case of protection I would suggest to work on making it easier to request an edit. Clicking "talk" and leaving a message is pretty hard For a newbie. ::::# Could the software show a banner at top of all edit protected pages with a big fat "request edit" button that takes to new section at talk with relevant "edit protected request" or whatever template already filled in with a space to describe proposed edit and reason. This banner should only show for users who do not have the privilege to edit the page. ::::# If needed i can write a js that protects page, places a banner at page top, and sights the edit. ::::- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:10, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::::: > ''I would suggest to make them "reviewer or admin only" as is more similar to like the current setup, where the intent is for the edit to be checked by a privileged user.'' ::::: We can't set "reviewer" as a level of protection. It's not available in the protection menu (I'm not sure if we can somehow enable it). ::::: Also, protecting to admin-only would put too much burden on a group that is already underserved and over-taxed. It is further frustrated by the fact that one of our two interface admins ([[User:Asked42|Asked42]]) is neither a reviewer nor an admin and therefore they would not be able make ''any'' changes to templates if we protected them all to reviewer (if we are able) or admin. ::::: A good portion of the changes I sighted were indeed made by Asked42. ::::: I think auto-confirmed as the minimum baseline, with some fully protected (as they already are) is a good compromise/happy medium.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:23, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::yes we can add a [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRestrictionLevels $wgRestrictionLevels], i guess 'sysop or reviewer or interface admin' could work [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:06, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::This would require initiating a separate proposal to add <code>editautoreviewprotected</code> as a protection level and user right (autoreviewed users, reviewers, and administrators). Protection for interface administrators is currently not possible, as regular administrators cannot edit site CSS/JS pages, or CSS and JS pages in any user's userspace (except for their own). [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 21:10, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::: Based on this, I think we should protect all templates to a minimum 'auto-confirmed' level, then increase it on an as-needed basis, with the understanding that over-protection impedes regular maintenance. <br>Protecting all templates to reviewer + admin is in my opinion overkill and prevents our single, active, interface admin from being able to make any changes to any templates. <br>Very few of our templates are used on published articles, which is arguably our most sensitive namespace as far as vandalism is concerned. <br>This also requires no changes be made to the overall config. <br>So to be clear, I would support the following (<del>assuming</del> <ins>I assume</ins> we also do it in the following order): :::::::: ::::::::* Protecting all templates to a minimum of auto-confirmed users ::::::::* Remove/disable flagged revs in the Template namespace :::::::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 23:01, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::that risks all sysops (who may be awol at times) missing an edit an autoconfirmed user made, whereas protecting would prevent this. i think on a small wiki it is better to reduce risk of an edit being made inadvertedly and then being missed. this is not wikipedia where good faith is assumed and infinite resources are available for post-edit page patrol. that would be a low activity backlog anyway seeing that you handled all pending revisions within less than a day - and they were accumulated over course of a few years i believed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:09, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::Whatever user right, it should be granted based on consensus or a sysop decision, not "this user was on wiki for 3 days therefore not spammer" (whatever that was named), in my view. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:22, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::: I {{oppose}} applying reviewer and/or admin-only protection to all templates. It will make general maintenance too difficult. <br>I {{support}} applying auto-confirm protection to all templates that are not currently protected, or:<br>I {{support}} not changing template protection broadly at this time. I don't think this decision should impede the original proposal since it was added later.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:11, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::I initiated [[phab:T418066]]. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 20:58, 21 February 2026 (UTC) ==== Options how to protect ==== For templates which are current in control by flagged revs, a reviewer has to sight an edit for it to be approved and become included in other pages. With the flagged revs being disabled for them. There is a need to make a decision what to do to prevent vandalism and other unwanted edits. * Option 1: do nothing; the templates become available for anyone to edit. Another user can undo that. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong; any user can monitor and undo. * Option 2: protect on 'auto-confirmed' level. Accounts with the 'autoconfirmed' privilege can edit. Another 'autoconfirmed' user can undo if needed. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong; an 'autoconfirmed' user or users need to check recent changes and monitor. This inconveniences users who are not 'autoconfirmed' because they havve to open a new section at talk page to request an edit. Work load on 'auto-confirmed' is increased because they have to monitor such requests and recent changes. * Option 3: protect on 'some new privilege name here' level. The privilege is given out to any user who was doing something constructive and is provided by request without needing to do a full vote. A vote may be held to remove it if needed or an admin can remove that privilege if it was misused. Another 'some new privilege name here' user can undo if needed. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong; an 'some new privilege name here' user or users need to check recent changes and monitor. This inconveniences users who are not a'some new privilege name here' because now they have to manually request new edits at the talk page. Work load on 'some new privilege name here' is increased because they have to monitor such requests and recent changes. * Option 4: protect on 'reviewer or sysop or interface admin' level. Accounts with 'reviewer or sysop or interface admin' privilege can edit, and another user with that privilege can undo if needed. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong, however, the pool of users was hand selected and voted on and the risk was reduced. This inconveniences users who are not a 'reviewer or sysop or interface admin' because now they have to manually request new edits at the talk page. Work load on 'reviewer or sysop or interface admin' is increased because they have to monitor such requests and recent changes. * Option 5: protect on 'sysop' level. Accounts with sysop (Administrator) privilege can edit, and another user with that privilege can undo if needed. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong, however, the pool of users was hand selected and voted on and the risk was reduced. This inconveniences users who are not a Administrator because now they have to manually request new edits at the talk page. Work load on 'Administrator' is increased because they have to monitor such requests and recent changes. Let me know if I missed something. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 03:01, 22 February 2026 (UTC) Comments and discussion * I have stronger support for 5 than 4 than 3 than 2. The amount of such changes made in template namespace was tiny and I propose to reduce load on 'contributors, users, reviewers, and interface admins', as they best work on news. Solving vandalism or 'hey lets change this because thats how i did it somewhere else and i thought that is good here' or 'i am confused' issues is a sysop job (ignoring that sysops have huge backlog because I am here and I don't even know that these tasks exist, but still. sysop handle mitigations of abuse and approvals of legit edits, in my view. I do not want to bring up question of sysop backlog size or lack of prior involvement in such issues before as it is not directly relevant to my argument). [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 02:50, 22 February 2026 (UTC) == Proposal to ban usage of AI at Wikinews == From [[Wikinews:Deletion_requests#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260107193100-Israeli_naval_ships_intercept_Gaza-bound_Global_Sumud_Flotilla]] there is a note from @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]] "I would even go so far as to propose that we block all AI articles on this wiki.". I agree with this proposal in short term. In long term I think it would be good to allow it after some reliable workflow is developed. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] may be interested in this discussion. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:51, 7 January 2026 (UTC) === Votes === * {{support}} noting this is for short term only and further effort could be undertaken to see what went wrong and how it could be addressed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:51, 7 January 2026 (UTC) *:I'm unsure about this right now [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:05, 7 January 2026 (UTC) *::{{oppose}} greatly, [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:21, 7 January 2026 (UTC) *::Hi @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] what would you think of requirement 'ai involved articles are in beta phrase, and are only allowed to be written for events which happened on first day of the month'? or some other random blanket rule that leads to effort managing ai generated content as a beta stage only and not every day. then maybe some understanding could be reached how to use ai more efficiently. please let me know, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:26, 11 January 2026 (UTC) *:::im just so used to using AI I personally enjoy it and I think it helps in some ways to news stories. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:27, 11 January 2026 (UTC) *:Yes, short term. When AI gets better or we have more manpower etc., we of course gonna use it. But not for now [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 04:45, 9 January 2026 (UTC) *::Hi @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], what would you think of requirement 'ai involved articles are in beta phrase, and are only allowed to be written for events which happened on first day of the month'? or some other random blanket rule that leads to effort managing ai generated content as a beta stage only and not every day. then maybe some understanding could be reached how to use ai more efficiently. please let me know, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:26, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * {{support}} a ban on AI generated news pieces. I'm not seeing how it provides value since anyone can ask AI to summarize a news article. Plus, the AI model appears to hallucinate and includes false information or bad sources, so it seems like it creates unnecessary work. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 21:55, 7 January 2026 (UTC) *: I used AI to help with the following published articles, for just a few examples: :: ::* [[U.S. strikes Iranian nuclear sites Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan overnight]] ::* [[NASA revises asteroid 2024 YR4 threat, near-zero chance of Earth impact]] ::* [[United States sends second aircraft carrier to Middle East, extends ''Truman'' deployment]] ::* [[Oregon court rules voter-approved gun law constitutional]] ::* [[US Navy Secretary nominee Phelan outlines readiness, cost-cutting reforms in Senate hearing]] :: :: I believe they all benefitted from it. I'm not saying they're perfect, but I think they benefitted from AI assistance. :: I also use it to check neutrality and balance during reviews and I find it's very helpful in that regard.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:59, 7 January 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]] what would you think of requirement 'ai involved articles are in beta phrase, and are only allowed to be written for events which happened on first day of the month'? or some other random blanket rule that leads to effort managing ai generated content as a beta stage only and not every day. then maybe some understanding could be reached how to use ai more efficiently. please let me know, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:27, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * {{oppose}} Each instance of AI hallucinations slipping through was either 1. A violation of [[WN:AI]] or 2. Should have been caught by the review process, or both. Maybe if we de-flagged reviewers after three AI slip-ups in published articles, we'd catch more of them sooner. <br>I think AI should be treated no different than a human editor. That means any hallucinations, which are simply inaccuracies or unsupported statements by another name, are catchable in the review process (but should be caught in the development process). I would imagine if we ban it, we will simply drive its use "underground." <br>And to be clear; I'm not advocating for AI-generated articles, but AI-assisted articles. <br>I'd prefer that we enforce the full and complete review process. Pseudo-reviews that skip the verification process predictably lead to more corrections and retractions.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:38, 7 January 2026 (UTC) ::I think we have yet to update [[Wikinews:The use of AI in generating content]] then approve it either as a policy or a guideline. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 22:41, 7 January 2026 (UTC) ::: I agree. The proposed guideline variously states that humans are responsible for the state of the article. ::: :::* "these drafts must always be critically reviewed and fact-checked by human contributors before submission." :::* "the final decisions on wording and style remain human-led." :::* "any interpretation or conclusions drawn must be reviewed by human contributors." :::* "The editorial process, including pre-reviews and final reviews, must always be carried out by human contributors." ::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:52, 7 January 2026 (UTC) ::::AI makes stuff up and this is quite dangerous. I asked it about a snow hazard in Switzerland and provided list of 3 sources; it told me the date 13 months off. If AI assistance is to be kept, I would suggest requiring that the author(s) provide a list of prompts to their AI tool on the talk page. This could help to improve quality of reports. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 02:09, 8 January 2026 (UTC) ::::: > ''AI makes stuff up and this is quite dangerous.'' ::::: However, those facts must be present in the listed sources to be included in our article. Bogus facts provided by AI won't be in the listed sources. <br>A full and complete review will catch that. That's how they were caught in both recent cases where a retraction was proposed. Someone read the article and tried to verify every statement against the sources.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 03:06, 8 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::I was told Grok AI gave information on underage kids pornography so strong delete@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:55, 8 January 2026 (UTC) :::::::https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/05/elon-musk-grok-ai-digitally-undress-images-of-women-children [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:58, 8 January 2026 (UTC) ::"Maybe if we de-flagged reviewers after three AI slip-ups in published articles, we'd catch more of them sooner." Should the authors be penalised in any way, if they repeatedly fail to catch AI's hallucinations? I'd like to know your opinion on this, @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:20, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::: Authors are responsible for accuracy. But reviewers bear final accountability for published content because review is a permission granted by the community to publish on its behalf. In these cases, the failure was not the existence of errors, but their approval through incomplete review.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:56, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::::Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ::::1. I ask to approach both reviewer and author in these cases as they both need to change their approach to ensure issues don't happen again and again. I asked you and you said 'Yeah, except reviewers were elected.' Yeah, sure, but my point still stands. I'm speaking of both. ::::2. Doesn't answer my question how to handle users who repeatedly insert same kind of issues into articles. That is not even always visible as the review feedback of failed articles gets deleted along with their talk page. I try to at least post a copy of it onto talk page via 'custom message' feature of ezpr2. Make that an official policy, would you? I'm sure you would be interested in this as it would allow to keep track of issues in articles submitted by that user in one spot, and provide a path towards figuring out why they happen and how to solve them, and improve 'article quality'. ::::3. And the same could go to posting feedback to a reviewer's talk page about post-publish retractions etc. I believe I didn't even ''get'' a talk page message about that retraction request; yet I did get an insinuation here. The note that a particular reviewer is being dodgy sits in your mind and doesn't sit on their talk page. I think that's inefficient. The concern about your mentioning of de-flagging lies in unnecessary escalation; the general civil thing to do has been to leave a message at a talk page before taking further action. ::::Hope it helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:14, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] see [[:w:Hallucination (artificial intelligence)]] for your reference in case you didn't know, regards [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:28, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::: Since hallucinations are inaccuracies, they won't be in the linked sources. So a full and proper [[WN:REV]] would catch them. Just as they were caught in the previously mentioned articles ''once a full and proper review was performed.'' ::: <blockquote>The reviewer should check that all information in the article is fully sourced,</blockquote> ::: Seems like we already have the solution; perform full and proper reviews.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:21, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::::Seems like incomplete solution since users don't fix anything fast. I have seen it tried for 15 years. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:50, 11 January 2026 (UTC) *<s>{{Support}}</s>I don't think we are on the right side of history. But current experience shows that editers and reviewers can not determine if theres any content in an AI generated article. And we "cannot edit after it published", so no remedies can be made. I also believe we should issue an announcement after disabling AI, which would show that we are a responsible media outlet. Of course, I maintain the stance discussed earlier that, ideally, editors should consciously strive to discern, and reviewers should ensure everything meets the standards, such as accuracy. If the review process can achieve this, it doesn't matter whether the article is written by a human, Shakespeare's monkey, or AI, nor is explicit labeling necessary, because we ultimately get a good article. I'm not saying people can't achieve this, but it requires too much effort, which is clearly not cost-effective. And if we implement policies similar to this now instead of banning AI, it will lead to situations where submissions written with AI cannot be published due to insufficient and timely review, which is obviously not in our favor. I apologize for the mistakes in an article I participated in editing. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 04:03, 9 January 2026 (UTC) : > ''editers and reviewers can not determine if theres any content in an AI generated article.''<br>If that were true, how was it identified for the proposed retraction?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:32, 9 January 2026 (UTC) ::I'm just coming to this now and have no idea what this question is asking. Is there some background somewhere about a proposed retraction that isn't immediately clear in this thread? What is that phrase referring to? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 04:13, 10 January 2026 (UTC) :::Yes, the proposed deletion linked in the first sentence of this section. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:19, 11 January 2026 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] fyi :::* for last few months now, partly due to my medical issues and partly due to my preference, i have been publishing articles checking only the basics (5Ws and H) and not checking each sentence thoroughly. i read through sources and ensure that what i have read does not have serious npov issues or contradictions that immediately strike my mind, but don't check fully. :::* i believe @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] has made it clear that he is here to uphold the standards to highest thresholds and now this is taking the form of him doing a full review of an article at time of archival. i disagree with this approach as i think it is taking away his valuable time from reviewing stories which are actually fresh. i do not believe anyone ever did a full review of an article at time of archival. this process previously only involved checking for red links, issues anyone previously flagged at a talk page, etc. :::* this in some cases results in him finding a full bucket of issues that he does not wish to write a 'correction' for because it would require a complete article rewrite. as i am one of the active (and lazy) reviewers here i should normally reply to these requests but i lack the energy to do this as my current state for last few months results in my energy levels being extremely low, at around 40% of what an average person has got. cause is unknown. :::* yet i keep reviewing articles and keep ignoring these requests to retract articles because it is even harder to reply to those than to one full review in the first place (need to articulate why some of the points being nitpicked were utter bullshit, as i find that i do disagree with some of them). :::* this leads to me becoming more exhausted and circles back to me not participating properly :::* there is an ondoing discussion of it in [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#Proposed change to review process by Gryllida Version 202512|this section (on the very same 'proposals' subpage of water cooler)]] :::hope this helps you to get an idea of the situation at least qualitatively. :::regards [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:36, 11 January 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], i liked that thought, that catching AI hallucinations is time consuming and may lead to delays in publishing. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:25, 11 January 2026 (UTC) : {{q|[A]t the time of publication, a news article must be solidly fact-checked and as objective as possible.|30px|30px|[[m:Wikinews|''Wikinews''' mission statement at Meta]]}} : To make sure I understand the position being advanced here, I see the following claims and implications: : :* That, for an extended period[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:Competitive_local_elections_held_in_England#Review_of_revision_4855230_%5BNot_ready%5D], reviews have been intentionally conducted without full verification, despite policy requiring it. :* That multiple proposals have been made to relax or redefine review expectations[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance/archives/2024/November#c-Gryllida-20241020021900-Michael.C.Wright-20241014152800],[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2025/June#'5W_Brief'_format] to align with this reduced, 5W-only level of scrutiny, but without community consensus. :* That, following retractions triggered by full verification after publication, the proposed remedy is to restrict or ban AI use rather than to restore compliance with existing review standards. :* That AI-assisted content is treated as uniquely suspect, while comparable human errors from incomplete review are framed as understandable due to fatigue. :* That thorough verification during review is characterized as counterproductive because it increases post-publication workload, rather than being recognized as work that belongs in the review process. : : I disagree with those priorities. : You previously articulated the risk clearly yourself, noting that becoming more liberal in approvals in order to increase output is “disastrous,”[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#c-Gryllida-2013-08-28T21:28:00.000Z-Wikiwide-2013-08-28T12:57:00.000Z] and that pursuing readership through speed leads to biased, lower-quality journalism. That analysis remains sound and is manifest here in the number of resultant retractions. : Applying full verification after publication did create additional work, but only because required checks were knowingly deferred during review. The remedy is not to restrict tools, but to align review practice with policy. : The underlying issue is not that policy was followed, but that it was repeatedly and unilaterally dismissed.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:42, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::This is too long, but I will answer each point anyway. ::* That, for an extended period[4], reviews have been intentionally conducted without full verification, despite policy requiring it. ::** Yes. I try to do full verification to a degree, but not to each letter. The motivation here is to verify key details and publish while article is still fresh. ::* That multiple proposals have been made to relax or redefine review expectations[5],[6] to align with this reduced, 5W-only level of scrutiny, but without community consensus. ::** That discussion is still open. ::* That, following retractions triggered by full verification after publication, the proposed remedy is to restrict or ban AI use rather than to restore compliance with existing review standards. ::** This is an overloaded sentence for me. For once, it's not only 'review' standards at the plate, it's also the 'write up' standards on the plate. ::* That AI-assisted content is treated as uniquely suspect, while comparable human errors from incomplete review are framed as understandable due to fatigue. ::** I do not know where this came from; please try phrasing it again. I lack resource to attempt to read this more than once. ::* That thorough verification during review is characterized as counterproductive because it increases post-publication workload, rather than being recognized as work that belongs in the review process. ::** I do not know where this came from; please try phrasing it again. I lack resource to attempt to read this more than once. ::* Pursuing readership through speed leads to biased, lower-quality journalism ::** I do not care about readership. I do not know why you think I care of ''that''. ::* "Applying full verification after publication did create additional work, but only because required checks were knowingly deferred during review. The remedy is not to restrict tools, but to align review practice with policy." is missing a 'In my view' note. ::* "The underlying issue is not that policy was followed, but that it was repeatedly and unilaterally dismissed." ::** I do not agree with this statement. I do not think the current policy requires 100% coverage of fact check. ::Hope this helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:57, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::: > ''I do not think the current policy requires 100% coverage of fact check.'' ::: It is explicit: "The reviewer should check that all information in the article is fully sourced..." ::: It's been a part of the policy since its inception, [[Special:Diff/672352|eighteen years ago]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:04, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::::Thanks for that. Posted below. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:35, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::{{Comment}} My understanding is that, for a fair amount of time: ::* There has been a lack of humans, writing articles, editing articles and reviewing them, making it difficult to publish even one article a week; ::* That for a fair amount of articles "written" with usage of AI, the quality problems were significant - not only in style of writing, but even in "facts" mentioned in the article; ::* That we currently have a tool to discourage blatant plagiarism from sources - which therefore encourages "lazy" (or tired, or whatever) contributors to use AI as text generator; ::* AI assisted content is not treated as uniquely suspect. Rather, where text is written by humans, humans are much less likely to generate hallucinations, and much more likely to follow guidelines for writing articles. AI assisted content doesn't know Wikinews guidelines, and even if it were provided with them, it would still be likely to hallucinate; ::The proposals in this thread have included: ::* Temporarily banning AI usage for writing of text in Wikinews articles - which I tend to agree with, though I would prefer a constructive discussion on positive and negative examples of AI generated contributions to Wikinews; ::* Removing reviewer duties from people who have missed AI hallucinations in articles they have published - which I absolutely disagree with. We need more people in Wikinews, not less. ::I would like to add the following proposals: ::* Possibly, add a tool to detect AI hallucinations - numbers (10 or ten or dozens - format doesn't matter), places, people which are not mentioned in the sources; ::* Or even better, write a Wikinews-specific (AI-powered? I don't like AI, but if you do, go ahead, contribute to development and testing) tool to generate text based on the provided links to sources; ::* Remember that having duties of being a reviewer doesn't deprive you of rights of being an editor. If an article needs improvement and editors are not showing up, feel free to improve it yourself - with caveat that you will have to find another reviewer to publish it afterwards. ::Reviewers don't have to be perfect. Reviewers need to be there, active and helping. But they don't have to be perfect. They just have to do their best. And discouraging writers and reviewers, penalizing them for their mistakes, can kill the project. This isn't school where kids have to go, whether they want to or not. This is a project based on volunteers. So instead of wasting their time with these heated opinionated threads and further dividing the community, get out there and do what you can. /AI will not write Wikinews for us./ [[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] ([[User talk:Wikiwide|talk]]) 07:48, 12 January 2026 (UTC) ::: > ''Reviewers don't have to be perfect. Reviewers need to be there, active and helping. But they don't have to be perfect. They just have to do their best.'' :::: We hold contributors accountable under our policies and guidelines, and the same applies to reviewers. '''Publishing inaccurate, biased, or plagiarized content due to incomplete review should not be acceptable.''' Reviewers volunteer for the role with an understanding of its requirements. Unilaterally choosing to disregard core policy for convenience undermines that responsibility, creates more work for others, and damages the project's reputation. ::: ::: :::: If reviewers knowingly accept inaccuracies, bias, or plagiarism for reasons of convenience, it raises a fundamental question about the purpose of the reviewer role itself. The review function exists precisely to prevent those failures, not to normalize them. ::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:49, 12 January 2026 (UTC) ::: > ''Removing reviewer duties from people who have missed AI hallucinations''<br>That was not proposed. I forwarded a thought experiment by saying "'''Maybe''' [emphasis added] if we de-flagged reviewers after three AI slip-ups in published articles, we'd catch more of them sooner."<br>There used to be the notion of "easy-come, easy-go" for the reviewer bit. There is a very brief discussion [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2010/June#%7B%7BUser Wikinews reviewer%7D%7D|here]] between Pi zero and Brian McNeil, two contributors who were instrumental in developing the modern review process. That discussion illustrates the level of attention to detail they hoped for from reviewers. Our current policies and guidelines still largely reflect that expectation. <br>My point is that this is not the way to go about policy change. What has occurred is one reviewer has unilaterally disregarded policy for personal convenience (as stated), and that has resulted in the publication of inaccuracies, bias, and/or plagiarism. <br>If [[WN:IAR]] is used as a justification (and it has not been, so far), even that requires the action to ''improve'' the project.<br>Reviewing as if a policy change has occurred, when it has not, predictably increases post-publication errors and workload. It then becomes circular to cite those downstream burdens as justification for lowering the standard that would have prevented them.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:42, 12 January 2026 (UTC) ::::I don't think there was disregard from one reviewer, that's why I opened RFC below. I believe that doing 100% verification was not common practice. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:04, 12 January 2026 (UTC) :::::Do we have consensus? @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:58, 12 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::Not before a few other contributors weigh in. This may take a few weeks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:58, 18 January 2026 (UTC) *{{support}} At this time. Let's see what the future holds, though. Maybe let's revisit this next year?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:19, 29 January 2026 (UTC) *'''Support''' a ban on unsupervised use of genAI for article creation or expansion, {{Oppose}} a blanket ban. Part of why I oppose the "nuclear option" is because it's nearly impossible to definitively know whether a certain sentence was purely AI-generated or merely the signature of a more formal human writing. As long as it's used responsibly, genAI can be a very handy tool for writing [[WN:Breaking news|breaking news articles]], seeking feedback on the quality of an almost complete article, correcting the grammar, translating content, and other purposes. For example, when I wrote "[[Bangladeshi interim leader Muhammad Yunus returns home after four-day visit to London]]" and "[https://web.archive.org/web/20250707221334/https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Australia%27s_truth_commission_finds_genocide_against_Aboriginal_Victorians,_suggests_practical_remedies Australia's truth commission finds genocide against Aboriginal Victorians, suggests practical remedies]" (which was [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=delete&user=&page=Australia%27s+truth+commission+finds+genocide+against+Aboriginal+Victorians%2C+suggests+practical+remedies&excludetempacct=1&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist deleted] due to staleness), I asked ChatGPT very simple prompts such as "Please assess that article" and "Is my article good?", and it gave me some rather useful advice (in retrospect, I admit that I should perhaps have disclosed it on the talk pages). Of course, it's a double-edged sword, and I discarded the recommendations which seemed very nitpicky or would run against P&Gs such as [[WN:NPOV|NPOV]]. I think a responsible (if imperfect) approach would be to give a hard "Not Ready" verdict on articles that look entirely AI-generated from the beginning to the end, grant a bit of leeway for those where only a specific section or paragraph is AI-generated, add one or more sections at [[Help:AI]] for guidance on rewriting these sorts of articles, and direct contributors to both that help page and [[WN:The use of AI in generating content]]. [[User:Redireditor|<span style="color:#6C2E92">Redir</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Redireditor|<span style="color:#1245BC">editor</span>]] ('''[[User talk:Redireditor|talk]]''') 01:36, 18 February 2026 (UTC) {{comment}} In light of a recent [[User talk:Michael.C.Wright#c-Gryllida-20260224194500-BigKrow-20260224180300|suggestion to use AI tools to evaluate or fact-check AI-generated material]], and a [[Talk:Moreton Bay illegally evicted homeless campers, Queensland Supreme Court rules#AI usage declaration|recent declaration of AI use in generating a published article]], it would be helpful to clarify the scope of this proposal. If the use of AI in some capacity is considered acceptable by the original poster, then the concern being addressed here may be narrower than originally framed. If that is the case, should the proposal be revised or withdrawn so the discussion reflects that distinction more clearly? [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 02:36, 10 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that clarification is needed. AI can be used for many things while writing an article without actually creating the wikinews-authored article text itself. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:28, 4 April 2026 (UTC) === Consensus assessment and possible next steps === My read of the consensus to this point is: * Support: 3 * Oppose: 2 * Support Retracted: 1 * No stated position: 3 Support remains conditional and temporary in framing, not a blanket permanent ban. With only one-vote separation and multiple participants explicitly calling for further discussion, this still does not meet a strong consensus threshold. The thread shows more agreement on process deficiencies (review standards, workload) than on prohibition itself. Based on that, and keeping in mind that consensus is not determined by simple vote totals but by working toward a solution that reasonably addresses the main concerns raised on all sides, I suggest the following be considered for further community discussion: * Transition [[WN:AI]] from a draft guideline into a proposed policy, so its requirements and enforcement expectations are clearer. * We carefully monitor AI usage to ensure it is 1. transparent, 2. accurate, 3. NPOV. See [[:Category:AI usage declared]] as just one tool towards this end. * For a limited trial period (for example, three months), apply a standardized disclosure notice on newly published articles that involve AI assistance. (<del>someone else</del> <ins>[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]</ins> proposed this elsewhere[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals/archives/2025/November#Thinking_-_asking_-_wondering]). See [[:Template:AI disclosure]] as a proposed draft. * Reassess outcomes after the trial period to determine whether current practices are improving article quality and review reliability. Comments welcome on whether this approach reasonably addresses the concerns raised so far.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:05, 30 January 2026 (UTC) :Agreed. Works for me. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:26, 10 March 2026 (UTC) : I have tweaked [[WN:AI]] to reflect that it is a proposed policy rather than a proposed guideline. : If we are considering a reader-facing disclaimer placed directly on articles, as I understand [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals/archives/2025/November#c-Bddpaux-20251104213100-Thinking_-asking-_wondering|this suggestion]], I think it should first have clear and explicit consensus. : Please comment below indicating {{tl|support}} or {{tl|oppose}} for '''using [[Template:AI disclosure]] directly on articles for a three-month trial period'''. You may also provide specific suggestions regarding the reader-facing template. If opposing, please include a brief rationale.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:58, 26 March 2026 (UTC) ::I did not understand what change is proposed. I am already following that linked guideline and the software is already prompting to declare AI usage at submission. What would "support" change here? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:07, 27 March 2026 (UTC) : An interesting read at Slashdot, that may be informative to this discussion: [https://news.slashdot.org/story/26/04/05/2119210/will-ai-assisted-journalists-bring-errors-and-retractions Will 'AI-Assisted' Journalists Bring Errors and Retractions?]. Original article is [https://www.msn.com/en-us/technology/artificial-intelligence/an-ai-upheaval-is-coming-for-media-this-journalist-is-already-all-in/ar-AA1ZuM7j here].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 11:00, 6 April 2026 (UTC) == RfC from reviewers: verifiability policy == {{flag}} The current verifiability policy states "''The reviewer should check that all information in the article is fully sourced''". In a discussion above, [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] noted that this requires checking each piece in the published article to the letter. So for example the way I understood it from above discussion, publishing an article with note 'A bus crashed, it carried 45 customers.' with a lot of other newsy information such as 5Ws, H, a driver was drunk, driver survived with one leg injury, etc other details, would require reviewer checking everything; according to this interpretation, just checking everything else while ignoring that piece of detail about '45' (and hence risking it will be published with incorrect number) would be against the current policy. This is purposefully a bit exaggerated example to get my point across. From time to time Michael.C.Wright picked up some more serious issues in my reviews, for example one article I didn't run in copyvio check, and then he went and put a dozen of issues which weren't adequately verified or attributed or some other thing, that I am yet to look at when I am slightly less busy hopefully towards the end of this week, and proposed a retraction. That retraction discussion link is located in first sentence of the above proposal to ban AI usage at ''Wikinews''. I don't believe this is realistic to expect a reviewer to check 100% of the content in an article unless someone is hired to do such extensive reviews and another user is hired to implement the requested changes quickly (a total of 2 users hired). I believe that requiring full review will delay reviews as they are simply more time consuming for the reviewer; and this will also delay publishing because a long list of issues will be presented to an author, and an author will take longer to address them. I proposed earlier, for example, that only the 5W and H, and plagiarism, should be checked, and potentially NPOV next on the list, but I expect that checking article to the last letter of each sentence is not required. For example being satisfied that around 70% of the article was confirmed in the sources could be sufficient to publish it. I am seeking comment from each reviewer about this. Please type it into below if you do not mind. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) === Comments from reviewers === This section is just for reviewers to say how they are doing reviews or how they think they should be done, whether they should be '100% verification coverage', etc. When posting this I wanted it just to see what each reviewer is doing currently about this. It is not intended for discussion just to see the current status. Then, further down the page, this section is then followed by another section for discussion. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Acagastya|Acagastya]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Chaetodipus|Chaetodipus]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Cromium|Cromium]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ** As noted above, I would be satisfied if 5W and H was verified and ''majority'' of the article, not necessarily 100% of the article. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:RockerballAustralia|RockerballAustralia]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:SVTCobra|SVTCobra]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:ShakataGaNai|ShakataGaNai]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Tom Morris|Tom Morris]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:Tyrol5|Tyrol5]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * Space for @[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] comment (click 'reply' next to my nick and add your answer below) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) === General discussion === General discussion. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:34, 11 January 2026 (UTC) :[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], not sure you are the best to do this but maybe you know someone who does: need to contact each reviewer off wiki asking to comment here and to advise when available for audio call as i think that is the only way to reconnect reviewers, by having a call at least once each three months. I scream in pain as this software does not have a calendar nor a doodle built into it and I am lost. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:42, 16 January 2026 (UTC) ::Noting I tried EmailUser and had no response. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:43, 16 January 2026 (UTC) === General discussion point 2: recent change === :''For a related discussion, see [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance#Clarification about post publish and post archive edits|Clarification about post publish and post archive edits]]'' *{{comment}} I feel that what [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] is doing, by cross checking the work of other reviewers at time of archival (or insert some other 'eternity later' description here), and by flagging all possible issues that were missed as part of review, undermines two types of relationships: author to reviewer, and reviewer to reviewer. While both of these could be blamed on the reviewer who approved the story that was later scrutinized, I do not find this approach particularly fruitful for the quality of news output nor for the integrity of the project as a whole. I am seeking comment from everyone about this matter. In my opinion lowering the tolerance to omissions, as long as it does not land into plagiarism or substantial bias territory, was previously allowed and the level of cross check in the last year has unnecessarily -- and without a consultation -- increased, putting unnecessary burden on involved authors and other reviewers. I request that this workflow comes back to what it was previously. Thanks for your attention to this sentiment, and I hope to see your comments about it soon. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:00, 9 February 2026 (UTC) *:cc @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]], please reply now and tag 3 other users who weren't tagged previously, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:01, 9 February 2026 (UTC) *::There's quite a bit here and I'm not sure which three other users would even see this conversation who weren't already pinged. I can see some value in checking articles at the time of archiving to see if the process was followed optimally and maybe tagging the talk page somehow. This is more-or-less equivalent to how some proper news organizations operate, where they review their own published works and issue retractions, make corrections, etc. (it was only two days ago that I saw my feed for ''Mother Jones'' retract a story that they couldn't verify). So I agree in principle that it's worth us having an author-to-reviewer relationship that works at the time of publication and then if someone is motivated, an archiver-to-reviewer relationship. What that looks like may be an open question. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 08:59, 9 February 2026 (UTC) *:::Hey @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] My question is whether you have noticed review standards got tougher than usual in the last year? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:28, 9 February 2026 (UTC) *::::Good question, but that is not something that I have personally experienced. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 20:27, 9 February 2026 (UTC) *:::::Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 09:54, 10 February 2026 (UTC) *:::::Would you say there has been more discussions about review quality recently, than before? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 09:55, 10 February 2026 (UTC) == News schedule == Hello context * some radio have news highlight every day from 8am to 815am, and * some youtubers have $whatever new upload every week on Tuesday at noon local time. For example. As a result, Fans sweat sitting on top of their fingers in ancipation of the release on that schedule. proposal. * Could it perhaps be helpful to identify platform and format and method, to get this done here? ** Weekly, say one entry on blyesky with list of recent news over last week; and one entry via audio podcast i.e. youtube or audible or whatever has audio outputs? Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:16, 26 January 2026 (UTC) :pinging @[[User:NikosLikomitros|NikosLikomitros]] @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] @[[User:Sj|Sj]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Sbb1413|Sbb1413]] @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] @[[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] @[[User:RockerballAustralia|RockerballAustralia]] @[[User:Matthiasb|Matthiasb]] @[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] @[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] to name a few, as this output could include news from other languages. cc @[[User:Revi C.|Revi C.]], @[[User:Base|Base]] Hoping to hear your input and aim for first date of a first initial post on Feb-01 or thereabouts. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 01:45, 27 January 2026 (UTC) ::I didn't understand what exactly is being proposed? --[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] ([[User talk:Vyacheslav84|talk]]) 03:19, 28 January 2026 (UTC) :::* {{comment}} Not totally following the proposal/question, but I will say this: If an event happens '''and that event is newsworthy''' there should be some type of jetsam present that verifies it actually DID happen. Historically, an accredited reporter's notes are valid. e.g. "I watched this program/podcast/live stream on this date at this time and this thing happened then that thing happened' etc. etc. But, again, the EVENT must be newsworthy AND have solid sourcing. Because someone with the YouTube channel '''CoolDude47''' said a thing happened at his neighbor's house, that SOURCE may not be dense enough to be trustworthy. Know what I mean?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:24, 29 January 2026 (UTC) ::::*If I understand Gryllida's proposal correctly, it is that we could (a) post a weekly news roundup to Bluesky or a similar site and/or (b) post a weekly audio news roundup/"best of Wikinews" to YouTube or a similar website. At this stage, though, I don't think we are in a good position to do either of those. I'm concerned that casual readers/listeners might not realize that Wikinews's topic selection is constrained by what our contributors take the time to write as well as what our reviewers take the time to review. We're averaging much less than one new published article per day at this point, resulting in a collection of articles that could be politely described at best as "eclectic". --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 06:08, 30 January 2026 (UTC) ::::*:Correct; there's always a chance to add one short disclaimer at the beginning of the text or audio piece noting that "<name of the nickname for the Wikinews broadcast> is in beta and audience can add their news by going <here>" where <here> is a user friendly place to start. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:51, 30 January 2026 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] :::* I guess you are not familiar with the services similar to the ones i described in 'context' then. here is a wiki page about them: [[:w:PBS News Hour]]. basically they air themselves every evening at same time. :::* I am proposing Wikinews produces at least one text output and at least one audio output regularly, for example, weekly, and posts them '''at the same time of day''' on a certain day of week consistently. :::Hope this helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:48, 30 January 2026 (UTC) ::::I agree, but who will do it? --[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] ([[User talk:Vyacheslav84|talk]]) 14:43, 16 February 2026 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] one person can not do all news media so i suggest to have one person per one or two social media accounts. I created page [[Wikinews:Social media posters]] you can add your name there and name of a social media where you are going to post and under what nick. Important not to have 'Wikinews' in the account name there as this is a trademark and requires permissions from WMF. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:49, 16 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] Okay, thanks, I'll take a look! --[[User:Vyacheslav84|Vyacheslav84]] ([[User talk:Vyacheslav84|talk]]) 11:16, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::{{comment}} I mean -- it ''sounds cool'', but: '''getting it done.....'''. Know what I mean?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:13, 4 February 2026 (UTC) :::Hi [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] please see [[Wikinews:Social media posters]], if you have a friend with social media addiction, please point them to the page, thanks! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:18, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::{{comment}} It's been 14 days since we had a new article published. If our text and audio outputs were based on our new content over the past week (and they should be if we were to undertake those projects), that would mean we would have had to skip two weeks. With the risk that the Wikimedia Foundation might shut down Wikinews altogether, I think we need to focus on our primary mission of publishing news stories on this website rather than trying to take on projects in new formats. Keep in mind that reviewers/administrators would presumably have to take the time to review the text and audio outputs before they are released, and there aren't enough of them to even have the time to review all the articles that get submitted now. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 07:52, 5 February 2026 (UTC) :::14 days??? Why. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:12, 6 February 2026 (UTC) :::🫩 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:13, 6 February 2026 (UTC) :Concerns over the inability to regularly put out updates like this are well-founded, but I don't think a monthly update would be too much to ask for, and I believe it would put a sense of relevance back into WN. As said by others, the articles we currently publish are mainly based on contributors' interests and availability, which isn't always the most attractive to a general audience. Even 1-sentence updates or a collection of quotes from media would be better than nothing; there's so much going on in the world right now that there's always something readers urgently need to know, and I see it as a foundational step for building, maintaining and retaining an active readership. I would gladly take up this task, but of course it would be better if reviewer(s) are responsible so that the reviewing process can be skipped/streamlined. Not sure about the audio part, unless software/AI is used to turn a transcript into audio. I personally watch ''{{w|Last Week Tonight with John Oliver}}'' and ''{{w|Weekend Update}}'', so I believe in the attractiveness of such updates. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 12:10, 12 February 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:HKLionel|HKLionel]] ::* I think submissions sized 100-150 words are the easiest to review, even if they do not possess much coverage value. That's the easiest way to get through the reviewing process. NOT MORE because it is pain to review. And not less because that is too short for pass. ::* There are three high quality submissions in queue. Each of them would take me a week to 'fully review'. Presumably, if I attempt one of them tonight, that will be an express review... ::Regards, - [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:59, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::Yes, so I suppose a coordinated effort by reviewers/making it the responsibility of a reviewer would make it more efficient. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 16:23, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :I just had the thought that we could borrow from Wikipedia's [[w:WP:ITN|in the news]] and [[w:P:C|current events portal]]. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 18:12, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::Borrow what? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:35, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :::Content for, as I suggested above, a monthly update. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 01:28, 25 February 2026 (UTC) ::I also discovered [[:ja:ウィキニュース:短信]] (news bulletins). This is a format I'd like to see emulated. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 02:39, 25 February 2026 (UTC) == Streak themed competition proposal == Propose to encourage a user to author and publish, or reviewer to review and publish, at least one story every two weeks. Like a [[:w:streak]]. At end of a competition period, suggest for 6 months (12 fortnights), the no. of maximum consecutive fortnights would be computed for each participant. For example, if I started and was major contributor to article on week 1, 3, 7, 9, 11, then my streaks are '1 and 3' (streak of 2), then '7 and 9 and 11' (streak of 3), I would score '3'. Top 10 participant would get a T-shirt or mug or some other object with a number (i.e. 'This user archived a 6 fortnight streak in English Wikinews in 2026' worded fancily and with fancy picture.) delivered to their desired postal address. Not sure how to fund this, but I think there may be a few people who want to donate to that purpose. if you wanted to donate please specify payment method. cc [[User:Pharos|Pharos]] as I think you might be able to get support from NYC for this perhaps. thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:02, 20 February 2026 (UTC) :created page [[Wikinews:2026 streak competition]] thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:12, 21 February 2026 (UTC) ::I think I could attempt this. [[User:CheatCodes4ever|Cheat]][[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|Codes]][[Special:Contributions/CheatCodes4ever|4ever]] ([[User:CheatCodes4ever/sandbox|sandbox]] | [[m:Special:CentralAuth/CheatCodes4ever|CentralAuth]]) 20:41, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] thank you, nice. 🙂 Is 'every 2 weeks' a good time frame? Or better 1 or 4 weeks? Whre do you think it could be funded from? Also, how long to run it for: 12 weeks or 24 weeks? Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:59, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] please add your name on that section [[Wikinews:2026_streak_competition#Interested_users|section 'interested users signup']] Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:25, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::::{{ping|Gryllida}} Two weeks sounds reasonable to me. [[User:CheatCodes4ever|Cheat]][[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|Codes]][[Special:Contributions/CheatCodes4ever|4ever]] ([[User:CheatCodes4ever/sandbox|sandbox]] | [[m:Special:CentralAuth/CheatCodes4ever|CentralAuth]]) 20:36, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :::::great thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:42, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :The prizes would probably need to be worked out later, but this is a great idea and I'm interested. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 01:47, 25 February 2026 (UTC) == Install inline comments == https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InlineComments Could this be installed here? It would be easuer to use than the current system, where highlight is a pain to delete on visual editor, and comment is hidden on talk tab. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 10:11, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :I find it unlikely that devs will add it, considering the status of Wikinews. I support you making a ticket at [[:phab:]] if you feel like it's warranted. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 17:23, 23 February 2026 (UTC) ::That would require consensus from the community. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 20:32, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :::thatas what i am asking about. would you support installation of such an extension here? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:43, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :::Which is why I was trying to provide my vote of approval. I did make that unclear, so I apologize: while I don't know that this will be successfully implemented, I am in favor of you requesting it <em>pending others weighing in and a general consensus that others feel the same way</em>. Again, sorry for suggesting that individuals unilaterally request new features. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 21:39, 23 February 2026 (UTC) ::::yeah i got it [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:03, 23 February 2026 (UTC) ::lets see if using [[:w:Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation#inline_comments|enwp lever]] works. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:34, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :::They [[:w:Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Proposal_to_install_the_'Inline_comments'_MediaWiki_extension_for_Draft_namespace|are being quite positive, including PHP maintainership]], and suggest development of a gadget as prototype. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:59, 1 March 2026 (UTC) :Same as Justin, though the WP discussions don't seem promising. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 01:53, 25 February 2026 (UTC) :Just to mention, it is not exactly like inline comments, but EzPR 2025 will include a feature called "Dynamic Marking" under the Sentence Marking section. When enabled, it will use a global gadget to load and display specific sentences that have been highlighted and marked by the reviewer on the article. :This is not fully implemented yet, the global script integration still needs to be completed. However, the idea is to provide a more dynamic approach to sentence-specific highlights and unsourced sentence marking.The data for each marked sentence, including its associated issue, will be stored on a JSON page. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:21, 28 February 2026 (UTC) ::Hi [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ::* I believe the dynamically marked comments, as currently implemented in EZPR2, have two disadvantages compared with the extension. First, they can be difficult to remove when working in the visual editor. Second, the extension provides a more user-friendly interface for replying to comments about a specific phrase in the article without having to switch to the talk page and back. ::* That said, one possible improvement to the extension would be to post a copy of the inline comment discussion to the article’s talk page when the comment is removed. This could be offered as an optional feature in the extension. At present, the discussion remains only in the article’s edit history, which may not be ideal, as the talk page is generally expected to serve as the central record of discussions about previous revisions of the article. ::Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:53, 28 February 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: I was not aware that there was interest in developing the extension as a gadget, which is, in my opinion, a much more practical and better approach. When the gadget is ready, I think we could also integrate it with EzPR 2025 to allow marking and commenting on specific text within an article. Therefore, I am dropping the Dynamic Marking approach within EzPR. :::Just to clarify regarding your comment: "''First, they can be difficult to remove when working in the visual editor.''" - I believe you may be referring to the current approach of wrapping text with templates. Dynamic Marking '''was not''' designed in that way; it was intended to function more like inline comments. Additionally, EN wikinews currently does not have the VisualEditor enabled. So even if that concern were valid, the current approach would not cause issues in this specific context. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 05:56, 1 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Actually, in Wikipedia there is a dying backlog queue of drafts for review, to create a new page in Wikipedia, users may often have to wait 2-6 months while page is sitting in Draft: namespace. So, I wanted to suggest the gadget separate, then it can be added to ENWP for draft review. For this space here in Wikinews, having the gadget installed there at ENWP could be a part of leverage to get the extension installed in Wikimedia wikis, including here, eventually. Knowing how ENWP centric the ecosystem is. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:33, 1 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Btw, inline comment doesn't show which phrase it was referring to, and neither does an inline citation. Only one cursor position. And inline comments were such a pain to edit in VE... For once they are not even visible until clicked or something. :( [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:34, 1 March 2026 (UTC) == Should we reconsider our stance on wikilinking == Our [[Wikinews:Style_guide#Wikilinking_an_article|Style guide states]] "Do not over-wikify articles. Link only particularly relevant background material." I believe the reasoning can be found in [[Wikinews:Categories#Wikilinks_and_redirects|this essay]], which states "Don't use wikilinks for basic information: a news article should stand on its own, understandable without consulting some other page along the way." As a community, I believe we have strayed from this practice considerably. A drift towards more wikilinking, in my opinion, is part of our broader drift from being a journalism project first to a wiki project first and a journalism project second. While over-wikilinking has not been an impediment to publication (that I'm aware of), it is something we should either be actively addressing (reducing) or something we should remove from our policies and guidelines. Please comment below how you feel about over-wikilinking and if you feel we should keep, remove, or update the recommendation. Justifying your response would be most helpful, but a simple !vote might suffice. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:27, 27 February 2026 (UTC) Some useful polling templates might be: *{{remove}} {{tl|remove}} *{{keep}} {{tl|keep}} *{{weak delete}} {{tl|weak delete}} *{{weak keep}} {{tl|weak keep}} === Comments === * {{keep}} especially for the lede. A link away from ''Wikinews'' is an invitation to stop reading our content and start reading someone else's. I also agree that the quality of our articles should be high enough that readers can fully understand the topic without going elsewhere for additional information. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:27, 27 February 2026 (UTC) *{{weak keep}} I am unsure if I have a passionate opinion here, but I will agree that the wikilinking has gotten a bit out of control. In the very least: most of our wikilinking should simply point to a new place at WN. This isn't Wikipedia. And: I '''2000% agree''' that we've lost our 'scope' of journalism first, wiki second. That is not even mentioning the 3,000 people involved with WMF that can only view us as a wiki ONLY. That has been a never ending war. Even some of us here: Admins etc. etc. -- we (including myself) sometimes get lost in the weeds on what is happening at this place: get the news, write the news, submit the news.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:32, 27 February 2026 (UTC) *:Just commenting what I see in this... *:* Obvious words like "cat" or "dog" are not supposed to be wikilinked. Not to point of wikilinking every second word in a page. *:* More complex names (for me it includes name of ''any'' US state, for instance, i never knew where they are and am not going to try to build a US map in my head, and many readers are overseas) that are not understood by foreigner or by someone new to that topic, could and should be wikilinked. *:* Adding a brief note to a thing is good. At some point I added a note like ", a state in east coast of United States," for something, for that reason. *:* Sport articles, for example, suffer a lot from lack of explanations. :S *:* Also this approach gave advantage that items that ''are'' wikilinked do, eventually in an utopic world when news writing is an everyday thing, become wikilinks to local categories about that event series or place or topic in ''news'' context, with a feed for that. For example there is no category "Dog". Or [[court]]. Or something. *:* If I removed a wikilink, I should probably feel compelled to either add a brief note or add a local news-feed (category) link. *:* A reviewer can do such minor chanhe if needed. *:* And I personally do not see any reason to change that policy in its current version. *:[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:00, 28 February 2026 (UTC) *{{weak delete}} Admittedly, having too many wikilinks looks bad. But we should not discourage Wikinews writers from including ''useful'' links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is our sister project, not a competitor. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 05:31, 28 February 2026 (UTC) *'''comment''' - There are two quotes that were mentioned, the style guide, which says "''"Do not over-wikify articles. Link only particularly relevant background material."''", and an under construction essay called "'''Categories'''", abandoned in 2021, which for reasons I can't quite figure out mentions wikilinks. When being asked "''Please comment below how you feel about over-wikilinking and if you feel we should keep, remove, or update the recommendation.''", it's not entirely clear what "the recommendation" is. Maybe I seem like I'm being obtuse but I'm having trouble interpreting all the !votes and figuring out where I stand on an issue presented as a simply yes/no question but that lacks the needed clarity. If just a comment is being sought, I can provide that of course. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 03:47, 10 March 2026 (UTC) == Software suggestion to notify all users eligible to vote == For requests regarding permission, removal of permission, or accreditation, I suggest developing a tool that notifies all eligible users and includes a link where they can provide comments, ask questions, and cast their vote; and with a note how they can opt out of receiving such messages (if desired). I believe similar tools have been used on other wikis, such as Commons or Meta. Since this wiki is relatively small and some recent requests have received very few votes for an extended period, such a tool could help increase participation and prevent discussions from remaining open indefinitely. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:40, 1 March 2026 (UTC) == Suggestion for [[Wikinews:Writing an article]] == At [[Wikinews:Writing an article#Starting out]], it says: :If the story has not been started, you can begin it by entering an appropriate title below and clicking "Create article". :Here are ''Wikinews'' [[Wikinews:Style guide#Headlines|article title rules and guidelines]]. I suggest that we add something like this to the above: "The article title should '''identify the news event''' that the article is about. A person's name alone, or a company name alone, should not be an article title." I am assuming that some people are indeed creating articles by starting from [[Wikinews:Writing an article]] but not reading the linked article title rules and guidelines (this assumption might be incorrect). That seems to be how we get such soon-to-be-deleted drafts as [[Rumi Von-Clarke]], [[Daud Muhammed]], and [[Zakariah gmb services]], all of which were tagged for speedy deletion on their second edits. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 14:13, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :I support this. That seems like a reasonable assumption. This might pull in a few contributors who get discouraged at first. I don't really follow them; what is the typical path a new editor who creates one of those articles takes? Do they stop editing? Silently? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:39, 6 March 2026 (UTC) ::I'm cool with that. I just hope new reporters read it. The '''event''' is the thing.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:52, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :Works for me. This could be a draft title, and when the user is ready to submit it for review, they can choose a better, more representative title if it is not already set. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:57, 6 March 2026 (UTC) == The future == I'll try to be quick here: We are a small village. There is a kind of poison that works its way in here at times -- people can (and do) begin treating this place as a general wiki, after they've been here for about 6 months. <br>I am writing these words as encouragement, not to scold -- please note that. I am going to (for the remainder of 2026) focus very much on Reviewing and encouraging new reporters. This is a news site. We have policies and guidelines. I will try very hard to adhere to those -- and I ask all other people here to focus on that very thing. Good things ahead. [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:19, 6 March 2026 (UTC) == New tool for inline comments: DynamicMarking. == Hello, a new tool is now available that enables reviewers to attach inline comments to specific phrases in a draft article. This means phrases can be marked by a reviewer to highlight issues without actually editing the article. Phrases that have been marked will appear highlighted in yellow. Non-reviewers can view them, but they will not be able to edit or remove the attached comments or markings. However, users can mark a specific highlight as "resolved". This gadget allows users to quickly identify the exact text in an article that needs modification or changes. Reviewers using the EzPR2025 gadget for review will find the "Dynamic Marking" feature integrated into it. However, the tool can also be used independently of EzPR2025. Full documentation is available at: [[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)/DynamicMarking|WN:EzPR2025/Dynamic Marking]]. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 08:07, 14 March 2026 (UTC) == Review que == there are currently nibe articles in review que going stale. I cannot review ''any'' of them because I either wrote them or they're original research. Can someone please get going on a review? This site must publish one article per day to remain a viable destination. Also, I am not going to be able to volunteer any more time writing articles here if everything I wrote this week goes stale for no good reason. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:41, 20 March 2026 (UTC) : For me, the deeper issue is a difference in what level of quality we are trying to achieve. Our Policies and Guidelines were written by a generation aiming for a much higher standard than what the current generation, broadly speaking, appears willing or able to sustain. The way we are collectively navigating that gap is creating friction (to put it politely) and, in practice, a status quo of low output. : We need to resolve that tension. Either we reform our PaGs to reflect a more achievable standard, or we raise the quality of our work to meet them. : Given the ongoing friction, I find myself looking for other ways to contribute here, if at all. I know at least one other reviewer has expressed a similar view. : I believe this quality–output tension is a central factor behind the SPTF’s recommendation to close Wikinews. I understand the logic behind that recommendation: we have not yet demonstrated that a citizen journalism model can reliably and consistently sustain high output, high quality, and a meaningful wiki process all at the same time.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:04, 20 March 2026 (UTC) ::If there is a problem regarding the quality of my contributions to this project, then nobody has said anything about that to me whatsoever. I submit my articles in the best shape possible and I still feel like I have to make a scene just to get someone to even look at my submissions. This is starting to look like what I assumed was going to happen if I started reviewing -- me being expected to pick up the entire review workload -- because literally nothing will get published orherwise -- while my own submissions are just forgotten and left to rot in the review que, and hours of my personal time are just wasted. I believe this project has potential but I dont know how to proceed if nothing else is being done to fix the problem that multiple users have been bitching about for months'''. This project will be shut down if the status quo continues. ''' [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:41, 20 March 2026 (UTC) ::: There was no specific target in my earlier comment. I was speaking more generally about what feels like a broader tension on the project. ::: To clarify: it seems we may not all be applying the same review standard in practice. I’m not referring to you or anyone else ''specifically''. There appears to be some preference, broadly speaking, for getting articles published once they are “good enough,” even if not every statement has been explicitly checked against a source or clearly attributed, with the expectation that the wiki process can refine things later. ::: On the other hand, our existing policies and guidelines lean toward a stricter approach, where each statement is expected to be supported or removed before publication. That gap — between what the standards say and what is realistically being applied — is where I see a lot of the friction coming from. ::: I may be misreading that, but that’s the issue I was trying to point to. ::: On the concern about you being expected to carry the review workload, I’m not sure the recent activity reflects that. Publishing has been shared among a small group of reviewers, and you’ve been a significant part of that (thank you!), but not the sole contributor.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=review&user=&page=&excludetempacct=1&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B%5D=newusers&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:12, 21 March 2026 (UTC) ::::I understand enforcing the rigorous policies for quality control, I just feel there have been too many times where a reviewer has requested revisions after an article I authored has been submitted, the requested changes are promptly made, but the reviewer just goes radio silent immediately afterward and the articles just goes stale waiting for review. It's hard to really feel motivated to make revisions to or gatwick articles I write because they have mostly just been getting left to rot these past few months. I'm not sure the community understands how much human labor power is actually just being wasted due to this failed process. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:58, 21 March 2026 (UTC) :::::i published one, others to follow during the week if i manage [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 13:03, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :::::it was noted elsewhere that 'a few' reviewers are required for the site to work. like i woukd say around 2-3 is a bare minimum 💀 when only 1 or 2, then, very hard to get things moving. I will also try to write one during the week for you to review! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 13:05, 22 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:11, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] what is the issue with reviewing OR? Do you have scoop access? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 13:03, 22 March 2026 (UTC) ::I dont know how to verify sources with original research. How am I supposed to review an event or interview I did not attend? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:08, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :::you can cross check it against reporters notes. They are shared privately with scoop, an address that accredited reporters and reviewers can read. If you do not have a wn-reporters account, please email me with your desired username, and i will email you the login instructions. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 14:32, 22 March 2026 (UTC) ::::If it helps any, I have two stories currently waiting that are OR. [[Musique Libre Femmes plays for Women's History Month at Tompkins Square Library in New York City]] requires scoop access but I tried deliberately to make [[The Performance Space in New York City holds its annual gala honoring three artists]] verifiable using only the pictures I provided in the article and a few of the pre-event sources. This is even easier now, as since I wrote the material (immediately after it happened), some genuine sources have come out which also corroborate my OR (which I added).. So that one shouldn't be too difficult. I also made it deliberately short so we could publish it fast... [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:35, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :::::Are we able to publish OR ten days after the focal point event? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:45, 23 March 2026 (UTC) :::::: Generally, yes.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:31, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::How long do we have? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:40, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: Unfortunately, this is one of the many areas where there is no hard-and-fast rule. [[WN:Fresh]] merely states: :::::::: <blockquote>Exclusive content has the potential to extend our freshness horizon by days or even weeks, depending on the nature of the original material. </blockquote> :::::::: Somewhere there is a relatively recent discussion that involved MeDaWikipedian I believe, in which some consensus formed around eight weeks as a max limit. I'll find it but it might take some time.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:50, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: Not much of a consensus for 8 weeks, but it may still be useful to cite as recent precedent when defending publication of material up to that age: [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance/archives/2024/September#Photo exhibition “Ethnic features of the world people” took place in the Crimean capital]][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 02:14, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: If you'd like some advice on it, let me know what article you are talking about and what you're thinking as far as why it is still publishable. If you'd rather do it quietly, feel free to use wikimail or email.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 02:17, 24 March 2026 (UTC) == Proposal to auto-"stale" from review queue == If an article was submitted for review on day N, then on day N+8 could it automatically mark itself as stale? This could help clear out the queue from the old end. I picked number 8 because usually an article does not get published about events over seven days old; I may be deluded there so please adjust the number of days as needed. Alternatively, the "review" template could change to "abandoned" after 7 days. I am suggesting to get this decided and implemented some time soon. It would reduce the load on reviewers and sysops, in my opinion. Something similar was done for another template before, but I do not remember which. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:59, 24 March 2026 (UTC) == Improving review visibility and collaboration for draft articles == I propose increasing visibility and collaboration around drafts and their talk pages so more users can contribute to review and copyediting. That could help authors who aren’t keeping up with reviewer requests and would be more like a scientific journal process where at least two people check a page before publication. Since the software supports pre-reviews, we could encourage everyone to pre-review more broadly. Proposed actions: 1. Add a friendly site notice inviting users to join a “newsroom” and review at least one article per day. Link to a Newsroom guide explaining categories: Drafts = need pre-review, expand, submit for review Queue = possibly ready; check carefully and flag issues Disputed = issues found; fix and resubmit That page like [[Wikinews:Newsroom]] but a mini-version: with only one paragraph intro linking to key policies; three lists (draft, review, disputed) one paragraph before each; one list (published in last three days) also one para explaining process of improving or cross checking those. That could be more user friendly for newbies than the current "everything and a kitchen sink" current version. 2. On submission, automatically leave the user a message with a request to pre-review at least two pages from the Newsroom, again linking to its over simplified version, perhaps even transcluding it to the user's talk page (via subst, so only then-current version is included in the message) as then they do not need to open the Newsroom link to see the topics being written about in the new drafts. These steps should speed feedback to authors and surface more issues before publishing, and bring more hands to fix them. Hope this is helpful. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:10, 27 March 2026 (UTC) 3. At submission, present user a button "pre-review my own article" which is like pre-review process they do for article they just submitted. 2a. Example: [[User:Gryllida/MiniNewsroom]] --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:31, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :4. Add button "mark as stale" to the develop template. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:32, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Online workshop for training new reviewers == Hello everyone, to help increase the number of active reviewers on English Wikinews and support interested contributors in understanding the review process, I would like to propose organizing a structured, documentation-based online workshop. Given that live video sessions may not be feasible for many participants, this workshop would primarily be text-based and hosted on-wiki (with optional use of chat platforms for discussion). However, if any experienced reviewer is interested in contributing via a presentation or live session, that would certainly be welcome. The workshop would be divided into 4-5 sections, each focusing on a specific aspect of the reviewing process. These may include: * Introduction to the role and responsibilities of a reviewer * Core review criteria (newsworthiness, neutrality, verifiability, freshness, copyvio) * Source verification and common issues in articles * The review workflow (from submission to publication) * Post-publication review and maintenance Each section would include short explanatory materials (text, slides, or diagrams), followed by practical tasks. These tasks could include answering questions, identifying issues in sample articles, or performing a simulated review. Participants who complete the workshop should gain a clearer understanding of how reviewing works in practice. Rather than replacing the existing reviewer nomination process, the workshop could serve as a preparation pathway, helping participants build the skills and confidence needed before being nominated. Additionally, participants who demonstrate strong understanding during the workshop could be encouraged or mentored further as potential reviewer candidates. To keep the workshop effective, participation may be limited to a small group. We would likely need at least 2-3 experienced reviewers to help guide discussions, review responses, and provide feedback. I would be happy to help prepare materials such as slides, flowcharts, and example articles. I would appreciate the community's thoughts on this idea: Would such a workshop be useful? Would any reviewers be interested in helping organize or mentor participants? Are there improvements or alternative approaches we should consider? Thank you. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:12, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :*'''Support''' I would've started reviewing much sooner of there was something like this in place. Why there doesn't already exist something similar to this is beyond me. :[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:05, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :* I can also assist in creating JS-based interactive quizzes, annotation projects, a peer review comment writing playground, and other interactive tools for the workshop, which I think will make it more engaging and fun. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 17:37, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :*:That seems good but is being hindered by needing to process [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard#Board_of_Trustees_Approves_Closure_of_Wikinews the hosting change]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == The last Wikinews article == Since the site will be frozen after May 4, I would like to suggest that we plan to have the top headline on the last day be something along the lines of "Wikinews closes after 21 years; community moves to Miraheze" or something like that. If the top headline is going to be permanently in place after that, it ought to be something that commemorates the ending of Wikinews. I wouldn't want the headline that the site has to live with permanently to be something like "Small town car accident results in nearly $200 in damage, no injuries". Of course, this presumes that we can have an article commemorating the site's closure ready and approved on May 3, but it will also require the cooperation of reviewers not to put something else in the lead headline position at the last minute. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 14:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :{{Support}}: I think this could be some type of original report. Even if a full article is not possible, I do think we should leave a message on the main page. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:17, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :{{support}} I proposed the same elsewhere (after you did). —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :[[Wikinews closes after 21 years]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:24, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{Support}} But: it will a long time before I come back here. Not being ugly about it. Maybe Michael can publish it. I'm about to sign out.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 02:07, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :{{Neutral}} Don't care. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:24, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Not sure if we 100% are moving to other host, though we should prep the article already, and post by May 3 -- should there be any changes, we do it before the project is RO (read-only). If someone is up for writing it -- I shall be there to review it. PS: please come to IRC, if you all can.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 09:37, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::: I think the article would greatly benefit from someone from the previous generation of contributors to write about how the modern review process came about, the various journalism schools/classes we worked with at the time, etc. That time was our peak in regards to readership and activity and is therefore the most consequential for us as a project. ::: I know @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] has links to external sites which praised the work of en.WN during those periods. Those could/should be used as sources, quoted, etc. ::: See: [[Wikinews closes after 21 years]][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 06:48, 4 April 2026 (UTC) == Future stewardship of Wikinews == As per [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Public_consultation_about_Wikinews#c-Sj-20260401032800-Victoria-20260330090000 this comment] by @[[User:Sj|Sj]], Wikimedia NYC and task force members are discussing the possible stewardship of Wikinews by [[meta:Wikimedia New York City]]. Also ping: @[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:56, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Proposal to cease publishing after around April 14 == Hello, as resources are required for migration, I am proposing to set a date after which articles will not be published. Maybe around mid-April. Then, a week later, clear the review queue and finish any maintenance tasks and walk away. Then this would leave around two weeks to setup a new site. Otherwise, I am concerned migration will be under-resourced. cc @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] who quite rightfully in my opinion wrote [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ASupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_Christians_of_crimes_against_the_humanity_of_gays_and_lesbians_in_a_landmark_ruling&diff=5003903&oldid=5003259 that]. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:06, 5 April 2026 (UTC) *If there is time to get new articles published during the second half of April, I think it should be allowed. The migration may be a more important priority, but not all the admins will necessarily be involved with that nor will it necessarily take up all their time. We are still getting submissions, albeit not many good ones. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 17:23, 7 April 2026 (UTC) * {{oppose}} I agree with [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] above. We could continue developing and publishing articles that reflect what we aimed to achieve: accurate, neutral reporting, provided reviewers are willing to perform full and complete reviews. More psuedo-reviews would be [[Wikinews:Deletion requests#Supreme Court of Finland convicts individuals and institutions involved in writing and publishing pamphlet for inciting hatred against gays and lesbians|counterproductive]]. : That said, it is already April 13 and there have been no substantive updates on migration, use of the name or logo, or related decisions. If the community waits for those before preparing for read-only, there will likely not be enough time (or community will) to complete the work. For that reason, some of us have already started shutting the lights down. See the following discussions: : :* [[Wikinews:Admin action alerts#Administrative matters for the closure]] :* [[Wikinews:Admin action alerts#In anticipation of DPL being disabled]] :* [[#The last Wikinews article]] (discussion above, article located [[Wikinews:Story preparation/Wikinews closes after 21 years|here]]) : : Currently I am prioritizing admin/maintenance/shut-down work but am also willing to do reviewer work if no other reviewers are willing. I am also prepared to review and publish the [[Wikinews:Story preparation/Wikinews closes after 21 years|last article]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:03, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :'''Oppose''' - I'm not sure what this would change in practice anyway. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 02:50, 14 April 2026 (UTC) 2gcyxps8666rtf5y2jic50yq73gncsk 14 37308 5007932 4255563 2026-04-14T11:08:23Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007932 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Topic cat |pipe={{lc:{{PAGENAME}}}} |category=Women's sports |intro= |image= |imagecaption= |offset={{{offset|0}}} |sisterprojects=yes |wikipedia=Women's sports |commons=Category:{{PAGENAME}} |wiktionary={{lc:{{PAGENAME}}}} }} [[category:Sports]] 8fjy06s20qj1ed5a4ynfsdsttp6aa13 0 37429 5007984 922058 2026-04-14T11:08:43Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007984 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|March 28, 2006}} [[image:Thai party ballot.png|right|thumb|225px|Thailand 2006 Party ballot, the box at the bottom right can be marked with an 'x' to indicate an abstention]] In the last days before the [[w:Thailand|Thai]] snap-election this Sunday, some activists seeking the removal of the now-caretaker Prime Minister [[w:Thaksin Shinawatra|Thaksin Shinawatra]] are urging voters to use the "No-vote" box on ballot papers. A women's rights group issued their second statement on the subject, urging voters to turn up at polling stations and register their abstention. The statement from Women and the Constitution Network said, "We want the Thai people to go to the polls and exercise their voting right by choosing to abstain." An earlier statement had called for the beleaguered PM to resign. According to Thailand's [[w:The Nation (Thailand)|The Nation]] other groups, including student organisations are urging voters to use the "no-vote" option. Calling into question whether the election will result in a full parliament, the [[w:Bangkok Post|Bangkok Post]] claims to have information from a [[w:Thai Rak Thai|Thai Rak Thai]] party insider that around 100 of the 168 seats where they stand uncontested may not meet the minimum requirement that 20% of the eligble voters vote for the candidate. With less than the required 500 members in the lower house, ratification of a new Prime Minister will not be possible. == Sources == *{{source|url=http://etna.mcot.net/query.php?nid=7775 |title=Women's rights activists call for voters to abstain from April 2 poll |author=Thai News Agency |pub=MCOT |date=March 29, 2006}} *{{source|url=http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/03/30/politics/politics_30000535.php |title='No vote' campaign |author= |pub=The Nation (Thailand) |date=March 29, 2006}} {{publish}} {{Archive-unreviewed}} [[Category:Thailand]] [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Elections]] [[Category:Thaksin Shinawatra]] [[Category:Brian McNeil (Wikinewsie)]] cen2b1evxepqp3kzuhaqo7zzw24j728 0 38850 5007952 4818416 2026-04-14T11:08:30Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007952 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|April 18, 2006}} Four South Korean women have accused {{w|Jung Myung Seok|Jeong Myeong-seok}} (Hangul: 정명석, Hanja: 鄭明析), the leader of the {{w|new religious}} organization JMS, of rape. The four women were crying and wearing hats, sunglasses and mouth masks to cover their faces. Gim Du-hyeong (金度珩), the former leader of EXODUS, accompanied them on the press conference held in {{w|Seoul}}, {{w|South Korea}}. EXODUS is a South Korean non-governmental organization against JMS, formed by former members of JMS. EXODUS had been tracing Jeong Myeong-seok in many nations for many years. Gim Du-hyeong stated that Jeong Myeong-seok was an instructor for the International Sung-gong Association under {{w|Unification Church}}. According to other sources, in March 1980, Jeong left the Unification Church and established ''Ae-Chun Church''. Later, the name changed and the organization reached the world. ''Jesus Morning Star ''(JMS), ''International Christian Association'' (ICA), and ''Global Association Of Culture and Peace'' (GACP), are all closely related organizations. The organization operates worldwide, primarily on university campuses. There are 240 branches of the church in Korea alone, and there are organizations in almost all universities. Gim said the major branch of these colorable religious organizations, ''Jesus Morning Star'' (JMS), was named after the acronym of Jeong's romanized name, "JMS". Gim also said Jeong established and exploited the evil dogma of "salvation through intercourse" to rape countless women from Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Malaysia. Jeong Myeong-seok was born in Wolmyeong-dong in {{w|South Chungcheong}}. Gim said that Wolmyeong-dong was later claimed a sacred place by JMS. And before Jeong fled Korea, he had been living lavishly and promiscuous here. In September 2001 Jeong Myeong-seok was charged with sexual assault by the Korean government and left the country. In November, the Taiwane version of {{w|Next Magazine}} covered the story of "Korean cult leader raped over hundred Taiwanese female college students". Members of Exodus soon came to Taiwan and held a press conference with an involved woman in local {{w|Legislative Yuan}}. Gim said, under heavy critics of Taiwan media, Jeong fled to Hong Kong, and still kept raping Korean women who came to visit him. He was arrested by local Immigration Department in 2003 July, but escaped to Mainland China on his 100,000 USD bail. Jeong was still wanted by {{w|Interpol}}. Gim said, since then Jeong have been staying in one of four lavish villas in {{w|Anshan}}, {{w|Liaoning}} province. Gim said, on April 2 He had a group sex with more than 50 women from Korea, Japan, Hong Kong and China. Jang and Gim, two of these women, fell for the invitation of a Taekwondo performance, and were also raped and injured badly in crotch. The two women escaped on April 4 and tried to take plane back to Korea. Jeong's gang attempted to kidnap them, but they were saved by Chinese police, and returned Korea for treatment on 7. Then, four other presenters cried out and accused Jeong had sexually violated them in Hong Kong, Malaysia and mainland China. They demand media's effort to prompt international community to bring Jeong to justice. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == {{wikipediapar|Jung Myung Seok}} ===Press conference on April 18=== In Chinese {{languageicon|zh-tw}}: * {{source|url=http://tw.news.yahoo.com/060418/43/31psh.html|title=被性侵犯女性集體揭發JMS教主鄭明析劣跡|author=姜遠珍|pub=Central News Agency|date=2006 April 18}} (Central News Agency the state news agency of the Republic of China (Taiwan). Primary source) * {{source|url=http://www.gov.tw/news/cna_photo/photo/200604/20060418000082.html|title = (Photo of the conference)|author=姜遠珍|pub=Central News Agency|date=2006 April 18}} ===Reports from Taiwan and Hong Kong=== In Chinese {{languageicon|zh-tw}}: * {{source|url=http://www.ettoday.com/2001/11/19/322-1224701.htm|title=涉馬來西亞性侵害案　鄭明析遭南韓通緝 |author=王采欣|pub=ETtoday.com|date=2001 November 19}} (Jeong was wanted in 2001 September) In English: * {{source|url=http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/local/archives/2001/11/12/111168|title=S Korean religious figure faces sexual assault accusations |author=Sandy Huang|pub=Taipei Times|date=2001 November 12}} (Jeong was covered by media in Taiwan on November) In Chinese {{languageicon|zh-tw}}: * {{source|url=http://www.ettoday.com/2001/12/10/218-1234524.htm|title=攝理教韓受害女性控訴教主　記者會火爆口角衝突 |author=陳志東|pub=ETtoday.com|date=2001December 10}} (Media conference in Taiwan 2001 December 10) In Chinese {{languageicon|zh-hk}}: * {{source|url=http://the-sun.orisun.com/channels/news/20030730/s_news.html|title =淫邪教主招徒亂港 性侵犯三港女 周五遺返南韓|author=靜態組|pub=The Sun (Hong Kong)|date=2003 July 30}} (Arrested in Hong Kong 2003 July 30) {{publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:South Korea]] [[Category:Japan]] [[Category:Hong Kong]] [[Category:China]] [[Category:Malaysia]] [[Category:Taiwan]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Falun Gong]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Unification Church]] [[Category:Sex crimes]] [[Category:Korean Peninsula]] [[zh:4名韓國女子指控攝理教領導鄭明析性侵害]] 2yz611qwn5kemedi9ogw4ocy25a9lqh 0 41192 5007955 4820268 2026-04-14T11:08:32Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007955 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|May 20, 2006}} {{Iraq}}The Iraqi parliament approves the new government - the first first full-term government since the [[w:United States|US]]-led invasion in 2003 - consisting of 37 ministers which now holds members from [[w:Kurd|Kurdish]], [[w:Shiite|Shiite]] and [[w:Sunni|Sunni]] sects including Foreign Minister Hoshivar Zebari (Kurd), Deputy Prime Minister Salam Zaubai (Sunni) and Oil Minister Hussain al-Shahristani (Shia). Due to disagreements the positions for the Interior, National Security and Defence Minister roles have been left vacant. For now the new Prime Minister, Nouri Maliki (Shia) is also taking the role of Interior Minister while Sunni Deputy Prime Minister Salam Zaubi will take the role of Defence Minister. Kurdish Deputy Prime Minister Barham Saleh has taken the role of acting National Security Minister. The mixed Cabinet of Sunni, Shiite and Kurdish sects also includes two women, the Human Rights Minister Wijdan Mikaeil and Women's Affairs Minister Fatin Abdel-Rahman. Several members of the Sunni factions led a walk-out before the approval of the new Cabinet after their proposal to postpone the event was turned down. Mr Maliki hopes that people not associated with any or Iraq’s militia groups will fill these positions. British Prime Minister [[w:Tony Blair|Tony Blair]] so far has hailed the progress as “a very, very crucial change in Iraq”. The news has also prompted a response from the new Italian Prime Minister - "Italy supports Iraq in this direction", [[w:Romano_Prodi|Romano Prodi]], Italian Prime Minister - after Mr Romano said he would propose the withdrawal of Italy's 2,600 troops in Iraq. In the following speech to the 275-seat assembly by Prime Minister Nouri Maliki announced that his government will focus on the issues of stability and security by working with the occupying forces, putting in place new laws to break up militias and integrate them into the federal forces. In his speech Mr. Maliki also mentioned other issues such as terrorism and "an objective timetable" for multinational forces to leave Iraq. There are mixed feelings about whether the formation of the new government can bring peace amongst the religious factions. Many people hope however that these are the first steps to quell the resent escalating sectarian violence that has spread across the country. Some of the recent violence includes a bomb blast in a predominately Shia precinct of Baghdad, a suicide bomb attack on a police station in Qaim and numerous accounts of dumped bodies bearing evidence of torture and execution. Hundreds of people have been killed and even more have fled their homes since the bombing of a Shiite shrine in February 2006 in fear of more sectarian violence. Sunni politicians have made allegations that death squads are operating as part of the security forces and are to blame for many of the killings. ==Sources== *{{source|url=http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-05-20T102851Z_01_DAH939242_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAQ.xml |title=Iraq gets new government as bombs kill 24 |author=Mariam Karouny |pub=Reuters |date=May 20, 2006}} *{{source|url=http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/news/international-affairs/iraqi-government-agreed-$440410.htm |title= Iraqi government agreed |author= |pub=In The News |date=May 20, 2006}} *{{Source|url=http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L20223958.htm |title=Blair leads plaudits for new Iraqi government |author= |pub=Reuters |date=May 20, 2006}} *{{source|url=http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060520.wblair0520/BNStory/Front |title=Britain and Italy welcome new Iraqi government |author= |pub=The Globe and Mail |date=May 20, 2006}} *{{source|url=http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060520.wiraq0520/BNStory/International/home |title=Iraq parliament approves new cabinet |author= |pub=The Globe and Mail |date=May 20, 2006}} *{{source|url=http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060520.wagenda0520/BNStory/Front |title=Iraqi PM sets out his agenda |author= |pub=The Globe and Mail |date=May 20, 2006}} *{{source|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5000016.stm |title=Iraqi parliament approves Cabinet |author= |pub=BBC |date=May 19, 2006}} {{Published}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:United States]] [[Category:Iraq]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Tony Blair]] [[Category:Baghdad]] [[Category:Sunni Islam]] [[Category:Shia Islam]] [[Category:Romano Prodi]] cz5lqzufiisj9qqr9qnntwmt37ruz39 0 43067 5007947 4552932 2026-04-14T11:08:29Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007947 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|June 13, 2006}} Police dispersed a group of activists who had gathered at the {{w|Hafte Tir Square|Haft-e Tir square}} in [[Tehran]] on Monday, reportedly using pepper spray and beating up some of the protestors. The group was staging a demonstration calling for equal treatment for [[women]] under the {{w|Iranian law}} and better protection of [[women's rights|their rights]]. The Iranian Justice minister {{w|Jamal Karimirad}} later said that 70 people were detained in connection with the event, of whom 42 were women. He also said that the reports of police beating up the protestors were being reviewed. The activists were protesting against gender discrimination in Iranian law, which is partly based on the [[Islam]]ic [[Sharia]] law. Women have had the right to vote and be elected to the {{w|Majlis of Iran|Majlis}} (parliament) since 1963, but under the prevailing laws, they are excluded from constitutional posts such as Judge and President and their testimony in court is only worth half of that of a man. Similarly, "{{w|bloodwit|Blood Money}}" or compensation paid to the family of a murdered woman is only half of that for a man. The protestors were calling for equal divorce and custody rights for women, reform of inheritance laws, as well as a ban on {{w|polygamy}}. == Sister links == {{sisters|w|Iranian women}} == Sources == *{{source |url = http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5073328.stm |title = Iran police beat women activists |author = |pub = BBC News |date = June 12, 2006 }} *{{source |url = http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-06-13T105239Z_01_L13709258_RTRUKOC_0_UK-RIGHTS-IRAN-WOMEN.xml&archived=False |title = 70 detained at Iranian protest over women's rights |author = |pub = Reuters |date = June 13, 2006 }} == External Links == *{{source |url = http://www.kosoof.com/archive/2006/Jun/12/425.php |title = Photographs of the incident. |author = |pub = Kosoof |date = June 13, 2006 (date of access) }} [[category:Crime and law]] [[category:Middle East]] [[category:Iran]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Tehran]] [[Category:Shari'a]] {{publish}} {{Archive-unreviewed}} odu24i1u8kah4u6xxavszlhsbneg36t 10 53754 5007707 4592206 2026-04-13T16:54:25Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. 5007707 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=Maharashtra}} [[Image:Maharashtra in India.svg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=Related articles| * [[Indian singer Lata Mangeshkar dies at age 92]] * [[Indian capital New Delhi reports surge in COVID-19 cases]] * [[India records 14 millionth case of COVID-19 amid new surge in infections]] * [[Heavy monsoon rains kill over 100 in India, many thousands evacuated]] * [[India: Maharashtra plastic ban comes into force]]}} {{Infosection|name=Read more|[[File:Seal of Maharashtra.svg|90px|center|link=Category:Maharashtra]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude> An infobox for {{PAGENAME}} and its news. ''Are newer articles not showing? [{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=purge}} Refresh]'' Customize this infobox '''{{#ifexist:Template:Infobox/lookup/{{PAGENAME}}|[[Template:Infobox/lookup/{{PAGENAME}}|here]]|{{plainlinks|{{fullurl:Template:Infobox/lookup/{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit&preload=Template:Infobox+table/preload}}|here}}}}{{hidden use|Template:Infobox table/preload}}'''. [[Category:State infoboxes]] </noinclude> auwi3miyf8kkmmkdlgyq9tv8spk7u7u 0 54649 5007959 4821872 2026-04-14T11:08:33Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007959 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|November 15, 2006}} {{w|Meena Keshwar Kamal}}, popularly known as Meena, the founder of the {{w|Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan}} (RAWA) has been listed among the "60 Asian Heroes" along with {{w|Mother Teresa}}, {{w|Dalai Lama}}, {{w|Kang Chol Hwan}} and others, in the Asian edition of ''{{w|Time (magazine)|Time}}'' Magazine. The magazine dedicated its November 13, 2006 special anniversary issue to pay "homage to the men and women who have shaped our destiny and our times." Aryn Baker writes in her profile of Meena: "Although she was only 30 when she died, Meena had already planted the seeds of an [[Afhanistan|Afghan]] women's rights movement based on the power of knowledge. She believed that if women were able to read and write, that if they could communicate and learn about the world, they would discover their own strength and could make a difference in their own society." Meena established RAWA in 1977 to promotes women's rights and a secular democracy. The group opposed both the {{w|Soviet Union|Soviet}}-supported regime and the later {{w|Mujahideen}} and {{w|Taliban}} {{w|Islamist}} rulers. After 10 years of struggle for women's rights, she was assassinated in {{w|Queeta}} of {{w|Pakistan}} on February 4, 1987 allegedly by the agents of {{w|Khadamat-e Etela'at-e Dawlati}} (KHAD), the secret police of the Soviet-supported regime in Afghanistan, which functioned under the control of the {{w|KGB}}. {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source|url=http://www.time.com/time/asia/2006/heroes/in_meena.html |title=60 Years of Asian Heroes: Meena |author=Aryn Baker |pub=Time |date=November 13, 2006}} *{{source|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1973184.stm |title=Afghan activist's killers hanged |author=Susannah Price |pub=BBC News nline |date=May 7, 2002}} {{publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Media]] [[Category:Afghanistan]] [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:Time (magazine)]] lrk1ycgk4d2xh51s032km0eoirwcaja 0 55718 5007987 4829694 2026-04-14T11:08:44Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007987 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|December 2, 2006}} A local commander and his 11 men are alleged to have gang-raped a 22-year-old woman in {{w|Shahri Buzurg District}} of the northeastern {{w|Badakhshan}} province of [[Afghanistan]] on November 28. The crime was reported to have been committed in the Shah Dasht village by a local warlord called Mujtaba, who belongs to {{w|Jamiat-e Islami|Jamiat-e-Islami Afghanistan}}, led by {{w|Burhanuddin Rabbani}} (now a member of the parliament). Local villagers told journalists that they have complained a number of times about brutalities and lawlessness in their village by warlords but police and local officials took no action because these warlords were powerful and backed by Burhanuddin Rabbani, who himself is based in Badakhshan. Qari Jehangir, husband of the victim, says the armed men raped his wife and when his 2 children were crying, one of the assailants urinated in their mouths. The victim was warned that she would be killed if she registered a complaint with authorities. Brig. Sayed Habib Saeedkhili, the border police chief in Badakhshan, confirmed the crime and told the media that commander Mujtaba and his men are famous drug traffickers who succeeded to flee but his brother, Anayat, has been arrested. According to {{w|Pajhwok Afghan News}}, the director of the Women Affairs Department of Badakhshan, Zofanoon Natiq, was not aware of the incident. She told the news agency that said no such incident had occurred in Badakhshan before. The head of the Independent Human Rights Commission at northeast zone, speaking to Pajhwok Afghan News, said, "This is a crime, and will also stimulate anger of the people." He added that weakness of the local authorities was the main reason such cases recurred. Crimes against women are on the rise across Afghanistan but especially in Badakhshan province, which is the stronghold of Jamiat-e-Islami Afghanistan &mdash; despite the [[Canada|Canadian]]-led occupying force. The Jamiat has its armed militia and holds key government posts in the area. In April 2005, Amina, a 29-year-old woman was publicly stoned to death on the basis of a district court's decision in this province. ==Sources== *{{source|url=http://www.rawa.org/gangrape.htm|title=Warlords gang-rape a woman in Badakhshan province of Afghanistan |author=|pub=Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan|RAWA|date=November 29, 2006}} *{{source|url=http://www.pajhwak.com/viewstory.asp?lng=eng&id=28160 |title=Woman raped in Badakhshan |author= |pub=Pajhwok Afghan News |date=November 29, 2006}} *{{source|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4477003.stm |title=Afghanistan woman stoned to death |author= |pub=BBC News Online |date=April 23, 2005}} ==External link== * [http://www.rawa.org/women.html Women's rights situation in Afghanistan] reports on the RAWA website {{publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Afghanistan]] [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:Sex crimes]] q15okze2s4amb4m9spw7rvsoayfx2gs 10 57458 5007728 4585767 2026-04-13T17:29:03Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. Translation links now handled by wikidata. 5007728 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=Lebanon}} [[Image:Lebanon (orthographic projection).svg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=Related articles| * [[Thousands of pagers explode in Lebanon killing twelve people and injuring thousands]] * [[Israel-Lebanon ceasefire faces several violations]] * [[Hezbollah attacks Israel, causes wildfires]] * [[Hezbollah launches drone attack on Hurfeish, Israel]] * [[Czech diplomats secure release of Polish 'terrorist' in Syria]]}} {{Infosection|name=Read more|[[File:Flag of Lebanon.svg|90px|center|link=Category:Lebanon]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude> An infobox for {{PAGENAME}} and its news. ''Are newer articles not showing? 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[[Category:Country infoboxes]] </noinclude> 7a0s9xvr80c2o5vj539u9ggux622nxf 10 58328 5007556 4234243 2026-04-13T12:58:41Z Metropolitan90 314212 fix dates; rm reference to incorrect article 5007556 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=Tigger hit incident at Disney World}} {{Infosection|name=Related stories| *16 February 2007: [[Potential charges against "Tigger" bounced: District attorney]] *16 January 2007: [[Orange County Sheriff's Office still investigating into Tigger hit]] *11 January 2007: [[CBS blog criticizes stations' coverage of Tigger incident]] *10 January 2007: [[Teamsters Union comments on Tigger incident]] *9 January 2007: [[Full video of Tigger incident reveals different story]] *8 January 2007: [[Accusations Tigger threw punch fill airwaves as teen claims neck injuries]] }} [[Image:Tigger looses stripes.jpg|196px|The incident was caught on tape.]] {{Infosection|name=Background information| * [[w:Tigger|Profile: Tigger]] * [[w:Disney-MGM Studios|Profile: Disney-MGM Studios]] }} {{InfoboxEnd}} <includeonly> [[Category:North America]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:Florida]] [[Category:Wackynews]] [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:YouTube]] [[Category:2007 Tigger incident]] </includeonly> <noinclude> [[Category:Event infoboxes|2007 Tigger incident]] </noinclude> 4biw5qxfx1oxan4r3qi1c0vqqat7ah0 10 63322 5007717 3773940 2026-04-13T17:15:28Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. Translation links now handled by wikidata. 5007717 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=Japan}} [[Image:Japan (orthographic projection).svg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=Related articles| * [[Boats carrying Kyoto students capsize off Okinawa, fatalities reported]] * [[Knife and chemical attack at a factory in Japan]] * [[Football: Japan beats Indonesia with score 6-0 for 2026 FIFA World Cup]] * [[Man drives into group of seven schoolchildren in Osaka, Japan]] * [[Ryan Gosling cast in upcoming Star Wars film]]}} {{Infosection|name=Read more|[[File:Flag of Japan.svg|90px|center|link=Category:Japan]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude> An infobox for {{PAGENAME}} and its news. ''Are newer articles not showing? 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[[Category:Country infoboxes]] </noinclude> iokf1fidxx2tziycwqecoilr9nxyzyl 10 63333 5007677 4724167 2026-04-13T16:30:24Z Metropolitan90 314212 replace DPL with static list; rm collaboration request 5007677 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=[[Algeria]]}} {{Infosection|name=Related articles| *24 July 2021: [[Algerian judoka suspended from Olympics for refusing to face Israeli]] *12 July 2018: [[Football: Manchester City signs Riyad Mahrez from Leicester]] *23 June 2018: [[Algeria blocks internet across nation to prevent cheating in diploma exams]] *13 December 2016: [[Detained journalist Mohamed Tamalt dies in Algeria]] *5 January 2015: [[French campaigning film director René Vautier dies]] }} <small><div style="text-align: right;">...[[Algeria|More articles here]]</div style></small> {{Infosection|name=Location of Algeria| [[image:Algeria in its region.svg|196px|A map showing the location of Algeria]]}} <div style="float: center; text-align: center;"> <div class="center">{{click|image=Flag of Algeria.svg{{!}}border|center|width=60px|height=45px|link=Algeria}}</div> </div style="float: center; text-align: center;"> <!--{{InfosectionEnd}}--> {{InfoboxEnd}} {{#if:{{{nocat|}}}||[[Category:Algeria]]}}<noinclude> An infobox for Algeria and its news. [[Category:Country infoboxes|Algeria]] [[ar:قالب:الجزائر]] [[ru:Шаблон:Алжир]] [[es:Plantilla:Argelia]] </noinclude> gpn5eztyiw5fz23ux5vzgke6xdtie4s 10 63390 5007712 4310226 2026-04-13T17:07:07Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. 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[[Category:Country infoboxes]] </noinclude> tq96lqaq09t08nmaq3tn34x3kv8l2p1 10 63391 5007680 4611498 2026-04-13T16:32:39Z Metropolitan90 314212 replace DPL with static list 5007680 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=[[w:Andorra|Andorra]]}} {{Infosection|name=Other stories from Andorra| *2 July 2015: [[Francesc Solé wins Andorra Ultra Trail again]] *30 November 2010: [[Gibraltarian Chief Minister suggests joint sovereignty with Spain]] *8 November 2009: [[Bridge collapse kills at least five in Massana, Andorra]] *9 June 2009: [[World Cup qualifier may be affected by London Underground strike]] *21 May 2008: [[Eurovision 2008: First semi-final held in Belgrade]] }} <small><div style="text-align: right;">...[[:Category:Andorra|More articles here]]</div style></small> {{Infosection|name=Location of Andorra| [[image:LocationAndorra.png|196px|A map showing the location of Andorra]]}} <div class="center">[[Portal:Andorra|To view other articles on Andorra, see the Andorra Portal]]</div> <div style="float: center; text-align: center;"> <div class="center">{{click|image=Flag of Andorra.svg|center|width=60px|height=45px|link=Portal:Andorra}}</div> </div style="float: center; text-align: center;"> <!--{{InfosectionEnd}}--> {{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude> An infobox for Andorra and its news. </noinclude><includeonly>[[Category:Andorra]]</includeonly><noinclude>[[Category:Country infoboxes|Andorra]]</noinclude> 8rrge9guay61e62i66c2ke7z1epdkt7 10 63440 5007688 4611591 2026-04-13T16:38:33Z Metropolitan90 314212 replace DPL with static list 5007688 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=[[Bosnia and Herzegovina]]}} {{Infosection|name=Other stories from Bosnia and Herzegovina| *1 May 2012: [[Bosnia jails first female war crime convict]] *8 February 2012: [[European cold spell kills hundreds]] *1 June 2011: [[Ratko Mladić said to be too ill to face trial]] *28 May 2011: [[Ratko Mladić arrested for war crimes]] *15 May 2011: [[Azerbaijan win 2011 Eurovision Song Contest]] }} <small><div style="text-align: right;">...[[Portal:Bosnia and Herzegovina|More articles here]]</div style></small> {{Infosection|name=Location of Bosnia and Herzegovina| [[File:Bosnia and Herzegovina in Europe.svg|196px|A map showing the location of Bosnia and Herzegovina]]}} <div class="center>[[Portal:Bosnia and Herzegovina|To view other articles on Bosnia and Herzegovina, see the Bosnia and Herzegovina Portal]]</div> <div style="float: center; text-align: center;"> {{click|image=Flag of Bosnia and Herzegovina.svg|center|width=60px|height=35px|link=CAT:Bosnia and Herzegovina}} </div> <!--{{InfosectionEnd}}--> {{InfoboxEnd}}{{#if:{{{nocat|}}}||[[Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina]]}}<noinclude> An infobox for Bosnia and Herzegovina and its news. [[Category:Country infoboxes|Bosnia and Herzegovina]] [[hu:Sablon:Bosznia-Hercegovina]] [[ro:Format:Bosnia şi Herţegovina]] [[sr:Шаблон:Босна и Херцеговина]] </noinclude> cwutkd8hnkr2rokz2asy4a9lszd6z7r 10 63441 5007697 4731992 2026-04-13T16:43:37Z Metropolitan90 314212 replace DPL with static list 5007697 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=[[Bulgaria]]}} {{Infosection|name=Related articles| *4 May 2023: [[European Commission, five EU members agree to permit members to ban domestic sale of some Ukrainian agricultural products]] *20 February 2023: [[Bulgarian police arrest four over eighteen dead migrants in abandoned truck]] *18 July 2022: [[North Macedonia parliament votes for deal with Bulgaria, clearing way for EU membership talks]] *17 July 2022: [[Shell chief executive warns Europe may have to ration energy]] *29 August 2015: [[Four men go before Hungarian court after 71 found dead in lorry]] }} <small><div style="text-align: right;">...[[Portal:Bulgaria|More articles here]]</div style></small> {{Infosection|name=Location of Bulgaria| [[file:Bulgaria (orthographic projection).svg|196px|A map showing the location of Bulgaria]]}} <div style="float: center; text-align: center;"> <div class="center">{{click|image=Flag of Bulgaria.svg{{!}}border|center|width=60px|height=45px|link=Portal:Bulgaria}}</div> </div style="float: center; text-align: center;"> <!--{{InfosectionEnd}}--> {{InfoboxEnd}}{{#if:{{{nocat|}}}||[[Category:Bulgaria]]}}<noinclude> An infobox for Bulgaria and its news. [[Category:Country infoboxes|Bulgaria]] [[ro:Format:Bulgaria]] [[ru:Шаблон:Болгария]] [[sr:Шаблон:Бугарска]] [[tr:Şablon:Bulgaristan bilgi kutusu]] [[uk:Шаблон:Болгарія]] </noinclude> 4r8eodvrfvvlivwqt1vvppflg7rag2m 10 63455 5007727 3789300 2026-04-13T17:27:34Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. 5007727 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=Latvia}} [[Image:Latvia on the globe (Europe centered).svg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=Related articles| * [[U.S. tennis player Coco Gauff wins U.S. Open women's singles tournament]] * [[Court finds UK allowed undervalued Chinese imports into EU]] * [[Russians continue to top podium on third day of European Deaf Swimming Championships]] * [[Russians top podium on second day of European Deaf Swimming Championships]] * [[Inquiry finds proper maintenance might have prevented 2009 North Sea helicopter disaster]]}} {{Infosection|name=Read more|[[File:Flag of Latvia.svg|90px|center|link=Category:Latvia]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude> An infobox for {{PAGENAME}} and its news. 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[[Category:Country infoboxes]] </noinclude> 80ehbsf3u6rmsr56us0mopoj7vgbr00 10 63457 5007736 3629242 2026-04-13T17:56:23Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. 5007736 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=Liechtenstein}} [[Image:Liechtenstein on the globe (Europe centered).svg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=Related articles| * [[2012 Report on Gender Equality and Development suggests Australian women are doing okay]] * [[Scottish FA apologise after fans boo Liechtenstein national anthem]] * [[Alleged tax-haven scheme linked to Canada's largest brokerage firm]] * [[UN holding recruitment exams in under-represented countries]] * [[United Nations passes Declaration on human cloning]]}} {{Infosection|name=Read more|[[File:Flag of Liechtenstein.svg|90px|center|link=Category:Liechtenstein]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude> An infobox for {{PAGENAME}} and its news. 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[[Category:Country infoboxes]] </noinclude> o2nzho4fcp3qrcjyu1ahacgxo37j3l9 10 63458 5007737 4611639 2026-04-13T17:57:38Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. 5007737 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=[[Lithuania]]}} {{Infosection|name=Other stories from Lithuania| * [[Austrian Airlines cancels Moscow-bound flight after Russia refuses a reroute outside Belarusian airspace]] * [[Belgian men's goalball team departs for Finland for World Championships]] * [[African Olympians and Paralympians prepare for their London odyssey]] * [[Anti-ACTA activists protest across Europe]] * [[European cold spell kills hundreds]]}} <small><div style="text-align: right;">...[[Portal:Lithuania|More articles here]]</div></small> {{Infosection|name=Location of Lithuania| [[image:LocationLithuania.png|196px|A map showing the location of Lithuania]]}} <div class="center">[[Portal:Lithuania|To write, edit, start or view other articles on Lithuania, see the Lithuania Portal]]</div> <div style="float: center; text-align: center;"> <div class="center">{{click|image=Flag of Lithuania.svg|center|width=60px|height=40px|link=CAT:Lithuania}}</div> </div> <!--{{InfosectionEnd}}--> {{InfoboxEnd}} {{#if:{{{nocat|}}}||[[Category:Lithuania]]}}<noinclude> An infobox for Lithuania and its news. 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[[Category:Country infoboxes]] </noinclude> po2v007asgf7n9gc7inayaytk47mpty 10 63604 5007724 3823056 2026-04-13T17:23:09Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. 5007724 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=Kuwait}} [[Image:Kuwait on the globe (Afro-Eurasia centered).svg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=Related articles| * [[Kuwaiti court sentences seven to death for June mosque bombing]] * [[Mahmoud Abbas: The Palestinians are eager to achieve peace with Israel]] * [[Airlines plan reroutes around Syria as potential for US military intervention increases]] * [[Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait recall ambassadors to Syria]] * [[Kuwait stateless protest for rights]]}} {{Infosection|name=Read more|[[File:Flag of Kuwait.svg|90px|center|link=Category:Kuwait]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude> An infobox for {{PAGENAME}} and its news. 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[[Category:Country infoboxes]] </noinclude> a1j7754w0z9al1qplohsevfhmzuxll6 10 63618 5007685 4611489 2026-04-13T16:36:20Z Metropolitan90 314212 replace DPL with static list 5007685 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=[[Bhutan]]}} {{Infosection|name=Other stories from Bhutan| *1 April 2022: [[Indian Prime Minister Modi attends 5th BIMSTEC summit virtually]] *21 September 2009: [[Ten dead after earthquake in Bhutan]] *7 November 2008: [[Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck becomes king of Bhutan]] *30 April 2005: [[INTOSAI meets in Paro, Bhutan]] *26 April 2005: [[India appoints new envoy to Bhutan]] }} <small><div style="text-align: right;">...[[Portal:Bhutan|More articles here]]</div style></small> {{Infosection|name=Location of Bhutan| [[image:LocationBhutan.png|196px|A map showing the location of Bhutan]]}} <div class="center">[[Portal:Bhutan|To view other articles on Bhutan, see the Bhutan Portal]]</div> <div style="float: center; text-align: center;"> <div class="center">{{click|image=Flag of Bhutan.svg|center|width=60px|height=45px|link=Portal:Bhutan}}</div> </div style="float: center; text-align: center;"> <!--{{InfosectionEnd}}--> {{InfoboxEnd}}{{#if:{{{nocat|}}}||[[Category:Bhutan]]}}<noinclude> An infobox for Bhutan and its news. [[Category:Country infoboxes|Bhutan]] </noinclude> s6w62h9bwz1jf8xcydk9ois37t9mt6w 10 63619 5007692 4611593 2026-04-13T16:41:17Z Metropolitan90 314212 replace DPL with static list 5007692 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=[[Brunei]]}} {{Infosection|name=Other stories from Brunei| *1 May 2023: [[Russian travel writer Viktor Pinchuk recounts Southeast Asia expedition in Sevastopol, Crimea]] *23 January 2013: [[Philippines seeks United Nations arbitration on South China Sea claims]] *21 November 2012: [[Philippines to host four-country meeting about South China Sea disputes]] *12 June 2007: [[Singapore and Brunei issue joint banknote]] *10 June 2007: [[Wikinews Shorts: June 10, 2007]] }} <small><div style="text-align: right;">...[[Portal:Brunei|More articles here]]</div style></small> {{Infosection|name=Location of Brunei| [[image:LocationBrunei.png|196px|A map showing the location of Brunei]]}} <div class="center">[[Portal:Brunei|To view other articles on Brunei, see the Brunei Portal]]</div> <div style="float: center; text-align: center;"> {{click|image=Flag of Brunei.svg{{!}}border|center|width=60px|height=35px|link=CAT:Brunei}} </div> {{InfosectionEnd}}{{InfoboxEnd}}{{#if:{{{nocat|}}}||[[Category:Brunei]]}}<noinclude> An infobox for Brunei and its news. [[Category:Country infoboxes|Brunei]] [[ru:Шаблон:Бруней]] </noinclude> lc08hp4lf11ujz39j0lrytpfogyh5xo 10 63623 5007719 4535330 2026-04-13T17:18:26Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. 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[[Category:Country infoboxes]] </noinclude> t2gyojksd87e10zbefpvnth9tq56bx2 10 73902 5007557 5007323 2026-04-13T13:00:13Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 testing 5007557 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=[[2007 Tour de France|Tour de France 2007]]}} [[Image:Tour de France 2007.png|center|200px]] {{Infosection|name=Other Tour de France 2007 stories| *29 July 2008: [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]] *28 July 2007: [[Tour de France: Levi Leipheimer wins stage 19]] *27 July 2007: [[Tour de France: Sandy Casar wins stage 18]] *26 July 2007: [[Tour de France: Daniele Bennati wins stage 17]] *25 July 2007: [[Tour de France: Yellow jersey Rasmussen withdrawn]] }} [[Image:Tourdefrance.png|center|150px]] {{Infosection|name=More info from Wikipedia| * [[w:Tour de France|Tour de France]] * [[w:2007 Tour de France|2007 Tour de France]] * [[w:2007 Tour de France, Prologue to Stage 10|Prologue to Stage 10]] * [[w:2007 Tour de France, Stage 11 to Stage 20|Stage 11 to Stage 20]]}} <!--{{InfosectionEnd}}-->{{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude> An infobox for the 2007 Tour de France. </noinclude> <noinclude>[[Category:Event infoboxes|Tour de France 2007]]</noinclude> kq8c0he5oa8zxneyamzk44ins1waacq 5007563 5007557 2026-04-13T13:03:18Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Undid revision [[Special:Diff/5007557|5007557]] by [[Special:Contributions/Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|talk]]) testing complete 5007563 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=[[2007 Tour de France|Tour de France 2007]]}} [[Image:Tour de France 2007.png|center|200px]] {{Infosection|name=Other Tour de France 2007 stories| *29 July 2007: [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]] *28 July 2007: [[Tour de France: Levi Leipheimer wins stage 19]] *27 July 2007: [[Tour de France: Sandy Casar wins stage 18]] *26 July 2007: [[Tour de France: Daniele Bennati wins stage 17]] *25 July 2007: [[Tour de France: Yellow jersey Rasmussen withdrawn]] }} [[Image:Tourdefrance.png|center|150px]] {{Infosection|name=More info from Wikipedia| * [[w:Tour de France|Tour de France]] * [[w:2007 Tour de France|2007 Tour de France]] * [[w:2007 Tour de France, Prologue to Stage 10|Prologue to Stage 10]] * [[w:2007 Tour de France, Stage 11 to Stage 20|Stage 11 to Stage 20]]}} <!--{{InfosectionEnd}}-->{{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude> An infobox for the 2007 Tour de France. </noinclude> <noinclude>[[Category:Event infoboxes|Tour de France 2007]]</noinclude> 2xtfpblbiiwhcd3jxnuwba6aw0mkgxl 5007576 5007563 2026-04-13T13:16:14Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 re-apply to test 5007576 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=[[2007 Tour de France|Tour de France 2007]]}} [[Image:Tour de France 2007.png|center|200px]] {{Infosection|name=Other Tour de France 2007 stories| *29 July 2007: [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]] *28 July 2007: [[Tour de France: Levi Leipheimer wins stage 19]] *27 July 2007: [[Tour de France: Sandy Casar wins stage 18]] *26 July 2007: [[Tour de France: Daniele Bennati wins stage 17]] *25 July 2007: [[Tour de France: Yellow jersey Rasmussen withdrawn]] }} [[Image:Tourdefrance.png|center|150px]] {{Infosection|name=More info from Wikipedia| * [[w:Tour de France|Tour de France]] * [[w:2007 Tour de France|2007 Tour de France]] * [[w:2007 Tour de France, Prologue to Stage 10|Prologue to Stage 10]] * [[w:2007 Tour de France, Stage 11 to Stage 20|Stage 11 to Stage 20]]}} <!--{{InfosectionEnd}}-->{{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude> An infobox for the 2007 Tour de France. 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He won by 23 seconds over [[w:Cadel Evans|Cadel Evans]] of [[Australia]]. Third place went Contador's team mate [[w:Levi Leipheimer|Levi Leipheimer]] of [[United States]], 31 seconds behind. As a young rider, Contador also gets the [[w:Maillot blanc|white jersey]] to go with his yellow. [[w:Tom Boonen|Tom Boonen]] of [[Belgium]] wins the [[w:Maillot vert|green jersey]] points classification over [[w:Robert Hunter (cyclist)|Robert Hunter]] and [[w:Erik Zabel|Erik Zabel]]. [[w:Mauricio Soler|Mauricio Soler]] of [[Colombia]] wins the [[w:Polka dot jersey|King of the Mountains classification]] over Contador and [[w:Yaroslav Popovych|Yaroslav Popovych]]. [[w:Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team|Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team]] won the team competition over [[w:Caisse d'Epargne|Caisse d'Epargne]] by 19' 36" and [[w:Team CSC|Team CSC]] by 22' 10'. [[w:Daniele Bennati|Daniele Bennati]] of [[Italy]] won the final stage 20 in a time of 3h 51' 03". The final 146 [[w:Kilometre|km]] stage saw the riders leave from [[w:Marcoussis|Marcoussis]] to enter to complete the eight laps of the [[w:Champs-Élysées stage in Tour de France|traditional circuit]] around the [[w:Champs-Élysées|Champs-Élysées]]. [[w:George Hincapie|George Hincapie]] was given the honor of leading his team and the [[w:peloton|peloton]] onto the Champs-Élysées, as he has now guided team mates to victory a record eight times. ==Stage 20 results== {| class="wikitable" !Rank!!Rider!!Team!!Time |- |'''1''' |'''[[w:Daniele Bennati|Daniele Bennati]]''' |'''[[w:Lampre-Fondital|Lampre-Fondital]]''' |align=right| '''3h 51'03"''' |- |2 |[[w:Thor Hushovd|Thor Hushovd]] |[[w:Crédit Agricole (cycling team)|Crédit Agricole]] |align=right| s.t." |- |3 |[[w:Erik Zabel|Erik Zabel]] |[[w:Team Milram|Team Milram]] |align=right| s.t." |- |4 |[[w:Robert Hunter (cyclist)|Robert Hunter]] |[[w:Barloworld|Barloworld]] |align=right| s.t." |-bgcolor=limegreen |5 |[[w:Tom Boonen|Tom Boonen]] |[[w:Quick Step-Innergetic|Quick Step-Innergetic]] |align=right| s.t." |- |6 |[[w:Sébastien Chavanel|Sébastien Chavanel]] |[[w:Française des Jeux|Française des Jeux]] |align=right| s.t." |- |7 |[[w:Fabian Cancellara|Fabian Cancellara]] |[[w:Team CSC|Team CSC]] |align=right| s.t." |- |8 |[[w:David Millar|David Millar]] |[[w:Saunier Duval-Prodir|Saunier Duval-Prodir]] |align=right| s.t." |- |9 |[[w:Robert Förster|Robert Förster]] |[[w:Team Gerolsteiner|Team Gerolsteiner]] |align=right| s.t." |- |10 |[[w:Manuel Quinziato|Manuel Quinziato]] |[[w:Liquigas|Liquigas]] |align=right| s.t." |} ==Final [[w:Yellow jersey|general classification]]== {| class="wikitable" !Rank!!Rider!!Team!!Time |- bgcolor=yellow |'''1''' |'''[[w:Alberto Contador|Alberto Contador]]''' |'''[[w:Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team|Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team]]''' |align=right| '''90h 00' 26"''' |- |2 |[[w:Cadel Evans|Cadel Evans]] |[[w:Predictor-Lotto|Predictor-Lotto]] |align=right| +23" |- |3 |[[w:Levi Leipheimer|Levi Leipheimer]] |[[w:Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team|Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team]] |align=right| +31" |- |4 |[[w:Carlos Sastre|Carlos Sastre]] |[[w:Team CSC|Team CSC]] |align=right| +7' 08" |- |5 |[[w:Haimar Zubeldia|Haimar Zubeldia]] |[[w:Euskaltel-Euskadi|Euskaltel-Euskadi]] |align=right| +8' 17" |- |6 |[[w:Alejandro Valverde|Alejandro Valverde]] |[[w:Caisse d'Epargne|Caisse d'Epargne]] |align=right| +11' 37" |- |7 |[[w:Kim Kirchen|Kim Kirchen]] |[[w:T-Mobile Team|T-Mobile Team]] |align=right| +12' 18" |- |8 |[[w:Yaroslav Popovych|Yaroslav Popovych]] |[[w:Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team|Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team]] |align=right| +12' 25" |-bgcolor=pink |9 |[[w:Mikel Astarloza|Mikel Astarloza]] |[[w:Euskaltel-Euskadi|Euskaltel-Euskadi]] |align=right| +14' 14" |- |10 |[[w:Oscar Pereiro|Oscar Pereiro]] |[[w:Euskaltel-Euskadi|Euskaltel-Euskadi]] |align=right| +14' 25" |} ==Sources== *{{source|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/cycling/6920992.stm |title=Contador wins tainted 2007 Tour |author= |pub=BBC Sport |date=July 29, 2007}} *{{source|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/cycling/6921040.stm |title=Stage twenty - as it happened |author=John Sinnott |pub=BBC Sport |date=July 29, 2007}} *{{source|url=http://www.letour.fr/2007/TDF/LIVE/us/2000/index.html |title=stage 20 - Marcoussis - Paris Champs-Élysées 146 km |author= |pub=Tour de France |date=July 29, 2007}} *{{source|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/cycling/6920992.stm |title=Contador closes on Tour victory |author= |pub=BBC Sport |date=July 29, 2007}} {{publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Sports]] [[Category:Cycling]] [[Category:2007 Tour de France]] [[Category:Europe]] [[Category:France]] {{DEFAULTSORT:Alberto Contador wins the grand tour}} [[fr:Résultat final du Tour de France 2007]] [[pl:Daniele Bennati wygrał 20. etap Tour de France 2007, Contador zwycięzcą klasyfikacji generalnej]] r5xdo034h320w8cswr4c9dlqmvtq0vu 5007562 5007560 2026-04-13T13:03:02Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Undid revision [[Special:Diff/5007560|5007560]] by [[Special:Contributions/Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|talk]]) test complete 5007562 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|July 29, 2007}}__noTOC__ {{Tour de France 2007}}[[Image:AlbertoContador.jpg|thumb|left|180px|Alberto Contador on the streets of [[w:Albi, France|Albi, France]] during stage 13. {{Image source|Sanguinez }}]] [[w:Alberto Contador|Alberto Contador]] of [[Spain]] has won the [[w:2007 Tour de France|2007 Tour de France]] [[w:Yellow jersey|general classification]]. He won by 23 seconds over [[w:Cadel Evans|Cadel Evans]] of [[Australia]]. Third place went Contador's team mate [[w:Levi Leipheimer|Levi Leipheimer]] of [[United States]], 31 seconds behind. As a young rider, Contador also gets the [[w:Maillot blanc|white jersey]] to go with his yellow. [[w:Tom Boonen|Tom Boonen]] of [[Belgium]] wins the [[w:Maillot vert|green jersey]] points classification over [[w:Robert Hunter (cyclist)|Robert Hunter]] and [[w:Erik Zabel|Erik Zabel]]. [[w:Mauricio Soler|Mauricio Soler]] of [[Colombia]] wins the [[w:Polka dot jersey|King of the Mountains classification]] over Contador and [[w:Yaroslav Popovych|Yaroslav Popovych]]. [[w:Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team|Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team]] won the team competition over [[w:Caisse d'Epargne|Caisse d'Epargne]] by 19' 36" and [[w:Team CSC|Team CSC]] by 22' 10'. [[w:Daniele Bennati|Daniele Bennati]] of [[Italy]] won the final stage 20 in a time of 3h 51' 03". The final 146 [[w:Kilometre|km]] stage saw the riders leave from [[w:Marcoussis|Marcoussis]] to enter to complete the eight laps of the [[w:Champs-Élysées stage in Tour de France|traditional circuit]] around the [[w:Champs-Élysées|Champs-Élysées]]. [[w:George Hincapie|George Hincapie]] was given the honor of leading his team and the [[w:peloton|peloton]] onto the Champs-Élysées, as he has now guided team mates to victory a record eight times. ==Stage 20 results== {| class="wikitable" !Rank!!Rider!!Team!!Time |- |'''1''' |'''[[w:Daniele Bennati|Daniele Bennati]]''' |'''[[w:Lampre-Fondital|Lampre-Fondital]]''' |align=right| '''3h 51'03"''' |- |2 |[[w:Thor Hushovd|Thor Hushovd]] |[[w:Crédit Agricole (cycling team)|Crédit Agricole]] |align=right| s.t." |- |3 |[[w:Erik Zabel|Erik Zabel]] |[[w:Team Milram|Team Milram]] |align=right| s.t." |- |4 |[[w:Robert Hunter (cyclist)|Robert Hunter]] |[[w:Barloworld|Barloworld]] |align=right| s.t." |-bgcolor=limegreen |5 |[[w:Tom Boonen|Tom Boonen]] |[[w:Quick Step-Innergetic|Quick Step-Innergetic]] |align=right| s.t." |- |6 |[[w:Sébastien Chavanel|Sébastien Chavanel]] |[[w:Française des Jeux|Française des Jeux]] |align=right| s.t." |- |7 |[[w:Fabian Cancellara|Fabian Cancellara]] |[[w:Team CSC|Team CSC]] |align=right| s.t." |- |8 |[[w:David Millar|David Millar]] |[[w:Saunier Duval-Prodir|Saunier Duval-Prodir]] |align=right| s.t." |- |9 |[[w:Robert Förster|Robert Förster]] |[[w:Team Gerolsteiner|Team Gerolsteiner]] |align=right| s.t." |- |10 |[[w:Manuel Quinziato|Manuel Quinziato]] |[[w:Liquigas|Liquigas]] |align=right| s.t." |} ==Final [[w:Yellow jersey|general classification]]== {| class="wikitable" !Rank!!Rider!!Team!!Time |- bgcolor=yellow |'''1''' |'''[[w:Alberto Contador|Alberto Contador]]''' |'''[[w:Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team|Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team]]''' |align=right| '''90h 00' 26"''' |- |2 |[[w:Cadel Evans|Cadel Evans]] |[[w:Predictor-Lotto|Predictor-Lotto]] |align=right| +23" |- |3 |[[w:Levi Leipheimer|Levi Leipheimer]] |[[w:Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team|Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team]] |align=right| +31" |- |4 |[[w:Carlos Sastre|Carlos Sastre]] |[[w:Team CSC|Team CSC]] |align=right| +7' 08" |- |5 |[[w:Haimar Zubeldia|Haimar Zubeldia]] |[[w:Euskaltel-Euskadi|Euskaltel-Euskadi]] |align=right| +8' 17" |- |6 |[[w:Alejandro Valverde|Alejandro Valverde]] |[[w:Caisse d'Epargne|Caisse d'Epargne]] |align=right| +11' 37" |- |7 |[[w:Kim Kirchen|Kim Kirchen]] |[[w:T-Mobile Team|T-Mobile Team]] |align=right| +12' 18" |- |8 |[[w:Yaroslav Popovych|Yaroslav Popovych]] |[[w:Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team|Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team]] |align=right| +12' 25" |-bgcolor=pink |9 |[[w:Mikel Astarloza|Mikel Astarloza]] |[[w:Euskaltel-Euskadi|Euskaltel-Euskadi]] |align=right| +14' 14" |- |10 |[[w:Oscar Pereiro|Oscar Pereiro]] |[[w:Euskaltel-Euskadi|Euskaltel-Euskadi]] |align=right| +14' 25" |} ==Sources== *{{source|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/cycling/6920992.stm |title=Contador wins tainted 2007 Tour |author= |pub=BBC Sport |date=July 29, 2007}} *{{source|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/cycling/6921040.stm |title=Stage twenty - as it happened |author=John Sinnott |pub=BBC Sport |date=July 29, 2007}} *{{source|url=http://www.letour.fr/2007/TDF/LIVE/us/2000/index.html |title=stage 20 - Marcoussis - Paris Champs-Élysées 146 km |author= |pub=Tour de France |date=July 29, 2007}} *{{source|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/cycling/6920992.stm |title=Contador closes on Tour victory |author= |pub=BBC Sport |date=July 29, 2007}} {{publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Sports]] [[Category:Cycling]] [[Category:2007 Tour de France]] [[Category:Europe]] [[Category:France]] {{DEFAULTSORT:Alberto Contador wins the grand tour}} [[fr:Résultat final du Tour de France 2007]] [[pl:Daniele Bennati wygrał 20. etap Tour de France 2007, Contador zwycięzcą klasyfikacji generalnej]] 1wjbvbm0g7fns79eefv8737ib75gv4f 10 77963 5008016 4867359 2026-04-14T11:15:58Z Koavf 5879 5008016 wikitext text/x-wiki <div {{#ifeq:{{{multiple|single}}}|single|id="singleTickerForPage"|{{#ifeq:{{{multiple}}}|first|id="enableTickers"|}}}} class="{{#ifeq:{{{multiple|single}}}|single||isATicker}} Ticker_engine-{{urlencode:{{{engine|std}}}}} {{#if:{{{speed|}}}|Ticker_speed-{{{speed}}}}} {{#if:{{{left_text|{{{link_text|{{{right_text|{{{link|}}}}}}}}}}}}|Ticker_strLeft-{{#ifeq:{{urlencode:{{{left_text|}}}}}||%00|{{urlencode:{{{left_text|}}}}}}} Ticker_strRight-{{#ifeq:{{urlencode:{{{right_text|}}}}}||%00|{{urlencode:{{{right_text|}}}}}}} Ticker_strLinkText-{{#ifeq:{{urlencode:{{{link_text|}}}}}||%00|{{urlencode:{{{link_text|}}}}}}} Ticker_strLinkURI-{{#ifeq:{{{link|}}}||Main_Page|{{{link|}}}}} }} {{{options|}}} " style="display:none;">{{{customSrc|{{#tag:DynamicPageList|category=Published {{#if:{{{cat1|{{{1|}}}}}}|category={{{cat1|{{{1}}}}}}}} notcategory=brief count={{{count|15}}} stablepages=only notcategory=Disputed notcategory=No publish }}}}}</div> <!-- Old ticker <div id="showticker" style="padding: .5em; height: 20px; margin-left: 2em;"></div>--><noinclude> This is a template to include the ticker. 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Great news! @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 13:04, 9 February 2026 (UTC) :Wow. Do you have any links? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 17:26, 9 February 2026 (UTC) ::https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/Рабочая_группа,_предлагавшая_закрытие_Викиновостей,_расформирована @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:46, 9 February 2026 (UTC) :::please use a translator. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:46, 9 February 2026 (UTC) ::::As a non-Russian speaker, using DuckDuckGo doesn't support your conclusion. It is true that the task force was shuttered, but that is common for tasks forces: they complete their mission to greater or lesser extent and then are dissolved. From what I can glean from your link, I don't see anyone saying that the WMF have decided against shuttering Wikinews. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 20:26, 9 February 2026 (UTC) ::::Yeah:I think you may be right. 'Disbanded' is for the Task Force itself. I thought a decision was set to be reached in December '25 -- any such decision yet?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:12, 10 March 2026 (UTC) ::::: No decision has been made yet, but the Board now expects to discuss the matter during their next board meeting on March 30. See [[#WMF Board of Trustees to meet March 30]] below.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:20, 16 March 2026 (UTC) == Tech News: 2026-11 == <section begin="technews-2026-W11"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/11|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server switch|All wikis will be read-only]] for a few minutes on Wednesday, 25 March 2026 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1774450800 15:00 UTC]. This is for the datacenter server switchover backup tests, [[wikitech:Deployments/Yearly calendar|which happen twice a year]]. 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Read more about [[f:Special:MyLanguage/Wikifunctions:Status updates/2026-03-11|the changes]]. * Users can now sort search results alphabetically by page title. The update gives an additional option to finding pages more easily and quickly. Previously, results could be sorted by Edit date, Creation date, or Relevance. To use the new option, open 'Advanced Search' on the search results page and select 'Alphabetically' under 'Sorting Order'. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T403775] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:28}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:28|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the bug that prevented UploadWizard on Wikimedia Commons from importing files from Flickr has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419263] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * A new special page, [[{{#special:LintTemplateErrors}}]], has been created to list transcluded pages that are flagged as containing lint errors to help users discover them easily. The list is sorted by the number of transclusions with errors. For example: [[{{#special:LintTemplateErrors}}/night-mode-unaware-background-color]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170874] * Users of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror|{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}]] beta feature have been using [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror]] instead of [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeEditor|CodeEditor]] for syntax highlighting when editing JavaScript, CSS, JSON, Vue and Lua content pages, for some time now. Along with promoting CodeMirror 6 out of beta, the plan is to replace CodeEditor as the standard editor for these content models by May 2026. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help talk:Extension:CodeMirror|Feedback or concerns are welcome]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419332] * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror]] JavaScript modules will soon be upgraded to CodeMirror 6. Leading up to the upgrade, loading the <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror</code> or <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror.lib</code> modules from gadgets and user scripts was deprecated in July 2025. The use of the <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror.switch</code> hook was also deprecated in March 2025. Contributors can now make their scripts or gadgets compatible with CodeMirror 6. See the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror#Gadgets and user scripts|migration guide]] for more information. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T373720] * The MediaWiki Interfaces team is expanding coverage of REST API module definitions to include [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/API:REST API/Extensions|extension APIs]]. REST API modules are groups of related endpoints that can be independently managed and versioned. Modules now exist for [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414470 GrowthExperiments] and [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419053 Wikifunctions] APIs. As we migrate extension APIs to this structure, documentation will move out of the main MediaWiki OpenAPI spec and REST Sandbox view, and will instead be accessible via module-specific options in the dropdown on the [https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RestSandbox REST Sandbox] (i.e., [[{{#Special:RestSandbox}}]], available on all wiki projects). * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto|Scribunto]] extension provides different pieces of information about the wiki where the module is being used via the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual|mw.site]] library. Starting last week, the library also provides a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual#mw.site.wikiId|way]] of accessing the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Wiki ID|wiki ID]] that can be used to facilitate cross-wiki module maintenance. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146616] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.20|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Coolest Tool Award|2026 Coolest Tool Award]] celebrating outstanding community tools, is now open for nominations! Nominate your favorite tool using the [https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/435684?lang=en nomination survey] form by 23 March 2026. For more information on privacy and data handling, please see the [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Coolest_Tool_Award_2026_Survey_Privacy_Statement|survey privacy statement]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/12|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W12"/> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 19:35, 16 March 2026 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:STei (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30260505 --> == Tech News: 2026-13 == <section begin="technews-2026-W13"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/13|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Wikimedia site users can now log in without a password using passkeys. This is a secure method supported by fingerprint, facial recognition, or PIN. With this change, all users who opt for passwordless login will find it easier, faster, and more secure to log in to their accounts using any device. The new passkey login option currently appears as an autofill suggestion in the username field. An additional [[phab:T417120|"Log in with passkey" button]] will soon be available for users who have already registered a passkey. This update will improve security and user experience. The [[c:File:Passwordless_login_screencast.webm|screen recording]] demonstrates the passwordless login process step by step. * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server switch|All wikis will be read-only]] for a few minutes on Wednesday, 25 March 2026 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1774450800 15:00 UTC]. This is for the datacenter server switchover backup tests, [[wikitech:Deployments/Yearly calendar|which happen twice a year]]. During the switchover, all Wikimedia website traffic is shifted from one primary data center to the backup data center to test availability and prevent service disruption even in emergencies. '''Updates for editors''' * Wikimedia site users can now export their notifications older than 5 years using a [[toolforge:echo-chamber|new Toolforge tool]]. This will ensure that users retain their important notifications and avoid them being lost based on the planned change to delete notifications older than 5 years, as previously announced. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T383948] * Wikipedia editors in Indonesian, Thai, Turkish, and Simple English now have access to Special:PersonalDashboard. This is an [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Moderator Tools/Dashboard|early version of an experience]] that introduces newer editors to patrolling workflows, making it easier for them to move from making edits to participating in more advanced moderation work on their project. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T402647] * The [[Special:Block]] now has two minor interface changes. Administrators can now easily perform indefinite blocks through a dedicated radio button in the expiry section. Also, choosing an indefinite expiry provides a different set of common reasons to select from, which can be changed at: [[MediaWiki:Ipbreason-indef-dropdown]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401823] * Mobile editors [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Contributors/Account Creation Experiments#Logged-out|at several wikis]] can now see an improved logged-out edit warning, thanks to the recent updates from the Growth team. These changes released last week are part of ongoing efforts and tests to enhance [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Contributors/Account Creation Experiments|account creation experience on mobile]] and then increase participation. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408484] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:36}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:36|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the bug that prevented mobile web users from seeing the block information when affected by multiple blocks has been fixed. They can now see messages of all the blocks currently affecting them when they access Wikipedia. '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Images built using Toolforge will soon get the upgraded buildpacks version, bringing support for newer language versions and other upstream improvements and fixes. If you use Toolforge Build Service, review the recent [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/cloud-announce@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EMYTA32EV2V5SQ2JIEOD2CL66YFIZEKV/ cloud-announce email] and update your build configuration as necessary to ensure your tools are compatible. [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Toolforge/Building_container_images&oldid=2392097#Buildpack_environment_upgrade_process][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T380127] * The [https://api.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page API Portal] documentation wiki will shut down in June 2026. API keys created on the API Portal will continue to work normally. api.wikimedia.org endpoints will be deprecated gradually starting in July 2026. Documentation on the API Portal is moving to [[mw:Wikimedia APIs|mediawiki.org]]. Learn more on the [[wikitech:API Portal/Deprecation|project page]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.21|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes|WMDE Technical Wishes]] is considering improvements to [[m:WMDE Technical Wishes/References/VisualEditor automatic reference names|automatically generated reference names in VisualEditor]]. Please check out the [[m:WMDE Technical Wishes/References/VisualEditor automatic reference names#Proposed solutions|proposed solutions]] and participate in the [[m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/References/VisualEditor automatic reference names#Request for comment|request for comment]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/13|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W13"/> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 16:51, 23 March 2026 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30268305 --> == Upcoming Wikimedia Café meetup regarding the [[:meta:Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027|the 2026-2027 Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan]] == {{tmbox | image = [[File:Wikimedia Café logo in plain SVG format.svg|45px]] | type=notice | text = Hello! There will be a '''[[:meta:Wikimedia Café|Wikimedia Café]]''' meetup on '''Saturday, 11 April 2026 at 14:00 UTC''' ([https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1775916000 timestamp conversion tool]), focusing on the [[:meta:Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027|the 2026-2027 Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan]]. The featured guests will be {{Noping|KStineRowe (WMF)|label1=Kelsi Stine-Rowe}} (senior manager, [[:meta:Movement Communications|Movement Communications]], Wikimedia Foundation), and {{Noping|Samwalton9 (WMF)|label1=Sam Walton}} (senior product manager, [[:mw:Moderator Tools|Moderator Tools]], Wikimedia Foundation). <br /> In addition to this Café session, [[:meta:Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027/Collaboration|several additional meetings regarding the Annual Plan are listed on the Collaboration page]], and you may participate on the [[:meta:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027|talk page]]. <br /> This Café meetup will be approximately two hours long. Attendees may choose to attend only for a part. Please see the Café page for more information, including [[:meta:Wikimedia Café#Signups for the April 2026 session|how to register]]. <br /> [[File:Buntstifte Eberhard Faber crop 64h.jpg|860px|alt=cropped image of colored pencils]] }} [[User:Pine|Pine]] ([[User talk:Pine|talk]]) 05:27, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :I did not get it. When and how is this going to happen? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:15, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :This message is 210% screen width of my mobile device. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:16, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews == <section begin="message" /> Following [[:m:Public consultation about Wikinews|extended discussions]] within the Wikimedia movement about the Wikinews long-term sustainability, levels of community activity, and the availability of reliable news coverage on other platforms, the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation has [[:m:Wikimedia Foundation Board noticeboard#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|approved the closure]] of Wikinews. Following this decision, all Wikinews editions will transition to read-only mode one month after this announcement, on 4 May. From that date onward, pages on Wikinews will remain publicly accessible for reading, reference and dump downloading, but editing and new content creation will no longer be possible. Further information about the technical transition to read-only mode and the preservation of existing content will be shared in the coming weeks. We thank all contributors who have participated in Wikinews over the years and helped build a unique experiment in collaborative journalism within the Wikimedia movement, and we understand that some of them might be disappointed by this decision. To our regret, the project wasn’t able to fulfil its promise, and many of its functions were eclipsed by the notable news coverage in Wikipedias. We hope the Wikinews editors will continue contributing to the other Wikimedia projects or free knowledge projects.<section end="message"/> [[User:Victoria|Victoria]], Affiliate and Community Liaison to the Board, 09:59, 30 March 2026 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:Johan (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Johan_(WMF)/Wikinews_MassMassage_on_behalf_of_Lorenzo/Target_list&oldid=29712956 --> ::Pinging editors: @[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] @[[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], @[[User:Dsuke1998AEOS|Dsuke1998AEOS]], @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]], @[[User:Monsieur2137|Monsieur2137]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]], @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], @[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]], @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]], @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]], @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]], @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]], @[[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]], @[[User:RockerballAustralia|RockerballAustralia]], @[[User:SVTCobra|SVTCobra]], @[[User:Acagastya|Acagastya]], @[[User:Cromium|Cromium]], @[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::Received, thank you. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 11:25, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::Gutwrenching. Oh well. It was a good run. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 12:17, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Im going to make a Fandom for Wikinews. Thoughts? @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 12:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::::I won't do anything to stop you but if the project can't meet its goals on this platform then I highly doubt it can elsewhere, where articles will get far fewer readers than they will here. I'm convinced the only reason anybody even knows tgis project exists is because its WMF. We had our chance and we blew it, dude. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 12:24, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::I guess Miraheze is are only hope. ::::::@[[User:Victoria|Victoria]] @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 12:47, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::How many users from Wikinews do you think will actually migrate somewhere else? I'm thinking it might just be time for me to move on. I'm lowkey extremely pissed that five '''good''' articles I wrote last week went stale and unreviewed. It's a waste of fucking time. I'm not getting my hopes up just for the same thing to happen elsewhere. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 12:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::::Then write less. Sorry mate. Five a week is a bit too much for me to even read, not to mention review. I was thinking it would help if on whatever new platform, users could cluster themselves by interests and geographical location; for a decade I have not found any approachable and readily available user from my continent. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:26, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Related discussion: [[Wikinews talk:Migration]]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews == <section begin="message" /> Following [[:m:Public consultation about Wikinews|extended discussions]] within the Wikimedia movement about the Wikinews long-term sustainability, levels of community activity, and the availability of reliable news coverage on other platforms, the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation has [[:m:Wikimedia Foundation Board noticeboard#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|approved the closure]] of Wikinews. Following this decision, all Wikinews editions will transition to read-only mode one month after this announcement, on 4 May. From that date onward, pages on Wikinews will remain publicly accessible for reading, reference and dump downloading, but editing and new content creation will no longer be possible. Further information about the technical transition to read-only mode and the preservation of existing content will be shared in the coming weeks. We thank all contributors who have participated in Wikinews over the years and helped build a unique experiment in collaborative journalism within the Wikimedia movement, and we understand that some of them might be disappointed by this decision. To our regret, the project wasn’t able to fulfil its promise, and many of its functions were eclipsed by the notable news coverage in Wikipedias. We hope the Wikinews editors will continue contributing to the other Wikimedia projects or free knowledge projects.<section end="message"/> [[User:Victoria|Victoria]], Affiliate and Community Liaison to the Board, 11:34, 30 March 2026 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:Johan (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Johan_(WMF)/Wikinews_MassMassage_on_behalf_of_Lorenzo/Target_list&oldid=29712956 --> :Already got it, thanks. Who may have missed out? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:41, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :So quick, just few months;) ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 12:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::The decision was made before the ‘’’discussion’’’ ever began. Trust me. Mostly good memories here, though. Farewell English WN.—-[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:17, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::I'm gonna cry [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 14:53, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] Agree, very sad. How can one claw back internet space from social media if the place which actually had RSS news feeds gets frozen? Want to recreate Wikinews in a different place, where it cannot be closed. And once that works, prepare for migration of whatever other project they will close next. Wikivoyage? Because at that rate, I have no willingness to contribute to Wikipedia itself - they are keeping it "relevant" by absorbing news reporting into encyclopaedia, which is cheating (and I don't think they have RSS feed - because their "breaking news" articles are not 'prepare and publish', they are 'publish and edit and improve over time'). And meanwhile, actual Wikipedia articles are years out of date - because there are so many of them. [[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] ([[User talk:Wikiwide|talk]]) 00:12, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :::Of course! It wasted so much of my time during my most busy days, as a student volunteer, which is extremely unethical. It's downright treacherous just. [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:13, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::::I agree with @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] that discussion was not even started and there was no attempt to provide milestones or requests before closure. Luckily, the content is not proprietary and can be moved to another hosting space, giving access to continue work and to implement software changes that were needed a couple decades ago. As I mentioned above the related discussion is in [[Wikinews talk:Migration]]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:24, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Thanks for informing us. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 18:15, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Tech News: 2026-14 == <section begin="technews-2026-W14"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/14|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * The Beta version of [[abstract:|Abstract Wikipedia]] a new Wikimedia project which is language-independent, was launched last week. The project allows communities to build Wikipedia articles in their native language, which can be readily accessed by other users in their own languages. The wiki is powered by instructions from Wikifunctions and also based on structured content from Wikidata. [[:f:Special:MyLanguage/Wikifunctions:Status updates/2026-03-26|Read more]]. '''Updates for editors''' * The Growth team is running an A/B test to evaluate a clearer, more user-friendly message that promotes account creation on wikis. Currently when logged-out mobile users begin editing, they see a jarring warning message that can feel abrupt and discouraging. This also presents temporary account editing as the default rather than encouraging account creation. The test is running on ten Wikipedias, including Arabic, French, Spanish and German. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Contributors/Account Creation Experiments#2. Improve logged-out warning message (T415160)|Read more]]. * The Wikimedia Apps team is inviting feedback on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/Future of Editing on the Mobile Apps|how editing should work on the Wikipedia mobile apps]]. The discussion focuses on improving how users access editing tools when they tap "Edit". This is part of a broader effort to convert readers who develop an interest in editing, to access a more user-friendly pathway to start contributing. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:45}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:45|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, an issue where citation fetching from the large newspaper archive [https://www.newspapers.com Newspapers.com] was no longer working, due to a block in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Citoid|Citoid]] requests, has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419903] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.22|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/14|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W14"/> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 19:25, 30 March 2026 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:STei (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30329462 --> == So -- I guess this is it... == Some of you young ones hardly know that English WN and WMF federation have had an array of skirmishes for roughly the past 19 years or so -- but this battle is finally over. I've made some good memories here and engaged in a very righteous thing: Citizen journalism. I hope each of you will take good things away. For those who've offended me: All if forgiven.😁For those I've offended: I hope to be on the receiving end of the same courtesy. I've learned a lot here. I've engaged with some cool, smart people here too. If anyone intends to create a 'fork' of this project: Please let me know. Can't make any hard promises, but I wouldn't mind checking it out. Great wishes to one and all -- and here's to many good days ahead.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 01:02, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :I have a wiki up on fandom, and one pending on miraheze @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 01:26, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::what wiki? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:25, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :::[[:w:Fandom (website)]], I guess [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 03:14, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :::https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 12:27, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Hi, thanks for the link. Do they allow to rename wikis? The post-migration name was not decided yet and it might not be "newswikien" in the final version. I will check it out on the weekend. What advantages or disadvantages does this have compared with miraheze? Do they allow installing custom mediawiki extensions? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:30, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :I guess they ultimately won. Thank you for all your time and work on this project over so many years, especially for your consistency. Many of our senior editors have become inactive over time (life happens); but you are one of the few who have continued to give your best. I truly appreciate all your help and advice during my time on Wikinews. Thank you again @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:37, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::I appreciate your generous words.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 12:50, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == Excessive use of NSFW images in 1 RU WN article == I think [[:ru:Звездные мобильники: Ексей Пантелеев]] uses an excessive number of images. Since the uses makes these files '[[c:COM:INUSE|in use]]' and the project is due to be read-only in 1 month, now would be a good time to reduce the number of files included in it to a reasonable number. I don't speak Russian so I couldn't ask at the project or on the page's talk page. I think a smaller number of these files would be more appropriate and maybe people here could ask there and/or remove some of these files from the page if that's fine. [[User:Prototyperspective|Prototyperspective]] ([[User talk:Prototyperspective|talk]]) 15:32, 31 March 2026 (UTC) : You can write in English at the RU forum. Anyways, those images are part of a [[commons:Category:Project "Geekography" by Exey Panteleev (nude portrayals of computer technology)|'Geekography']] photo set most of which isn't even in use, yet it remains. You could open a Commons RfD to take care of all of these photos, not just the ones used on that page. I imagine they'll be amenable there. [[User:AtUkr|AtUkr]] ([[User talk:AtUkr|talk]]) 20:54, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::Somebody could move this thread there. For example, I don't know the right place at RU.WN. ::And @M.C.Wrigth For clarity, I'm not asking for WN to be censored – the emphasis of the title is on "Excessive", not on "NSFW"; and the post says "reduce", not 'eliminate'. [[User:Prototyperspective|Prototyperspective]] ([[User talk:Prototyperspective|talk]]) 11:33, 1 April 2026 (UTC) : You'll need to raise that issue at ru.WN. : en.WN is [[WN:NOT|not censored]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 06:26, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == wn-reporters.org mail + staying in contact == Pinging those who have access to wn-reporters.org mail @[[User:Acagastya|Acagastya]] (self) @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] @[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] (deceased </3) @[[User:RockerballAustralia|RockerballAustralia]] @[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] @[[User:Kitabc12345|Kitabc12345]] @[[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] @Thibauld scelles (not sure what is their username -- @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] -- do you happen to know?) @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] @[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] @[[User:Cromium|Cromium]] @[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] @[[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]] @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] @[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]]. I have been maintaining wn-reporters.org mail server since @[[User:Brian McNeil|Brian McNeil]] passed away around July 4, 2020 -- Wow, it's been almost 6 years, that aches my heart. Wikinews was part of my entire college life -- it is going to be 11 years on enwn this May 1, but after Pi zero's death, and writing his obituary, it became very difficult for me to come back here. I will talk about this later. But for now, I would request you all to individually back up your own mailboxes. (I think if you log in via thunderbird, you would see an option to export the mails). I am not pulling the plug on the server yet. So you will have the access to mailboxes for the time being. Though should we move to some other host, we would have to see how we deal with the accredited requests and access to the mailboxes. For that, I will be lurking on Libera Chat, (OFTC, Slashnet, and tilde) on IRC as "acagastya". Additionally, I have my own IRC server irc.firebyagni.net:6667/6697 where I exist as "firebyagni". Ages ago, I had created a discord server for wikinews, but noone came, apart from @[[User:Athozus|AirSThib]]. Should anyone want to come, for the old times sake as the wikinews diaspora, please feel free to join here: https://discord.gg/cCEzC8d. I have had some amazing people who mentored me. I probably won't remember many of the people, but I am forever grateful to this wonderful community. Wikinews was wikinews for me because of pizero and without him, neither would I have been on enwn, nor would I have known anyone of you. @[[User:Abhinav619|Abhinav619]] @[[User:ImprovedWikiImprovment|ImprovedWikiImprovment]] @[[User:Tom Morris|Tom Morris]] @[[User:Chaetodipus|Chaetodipus]] @[[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]] @[[User:SVTCobra|SVTCobra]] @[[User:Tyrol5|Tyrol5]] @[[User:Cirt|Cirt]] @[[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] @[[User:Amgine|Amgine]] @[[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] @[[User:ShakataGaNai|ShakataGaNai]] @[[User:Blood Red Sandman|Blood Red Sandman]] @[[User:TUFKAAP|TUFKAAP]] @[[User:Skenmy|Skenmy]] @[[User:Zanimum|Zanimum]] @[[User:Cspurrier|Cspurrier]] @[[User:Hawkeye7|Hawkeye7]] @[[User:LauraHale|LauraHale]] @[[User:Crtew|Crtew]] @[[User:Ezarate|Ezarate]] @[[User:DARIO SEVERI|DARIO SEVERI]] @[[User:AlvaroMolina|AlvaroMolina]] @[[User:Gopher65|Gopher65]] @[[User:Bluerasberry|Bluerasberry]] @[[User:Henrymyman|Henrymyman]] @[[User:Xbspiro|Xbspiro]] @[[User:Alextejthompson|Rubbish computer]] @[[User:Edu!|Edu!]] @[[User:Revi C.|-revi]] @[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] @[[User:Tempodivalse|Tempodivalse]] @[[User:Numbermaniac|Numbermaniac]] @[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] @[[User:Cassiopeia|Cassiopeia]] @[[User:Handraulic|Handraulic]] @[[User:AZOperator|AZOperator]] @[[User:Yngvadottir|Yngvadottir]] @[[User:Cognitive137|Cognitive137]] and many more whom I forgot to ping -- thanks for being part of my mid-to-late teenage life. enwn reminds me when I had just finished the school, wrote my first article which failed the review, the first article that passed the review -- the college days, me leaving the first college, going to Bangalore, buying scratch cards of internet data pack to write articles, hand-writing the articles, IRC bouncers and IRC bots, telegram bridges; figuring out how to do OR, and BR, ComicCons, then media interviews and what not? When I think about it, it has been quite a journey. Including those days when I fought with pizero -- and I hated that. I have learnt a lot here, and I will be missing this community, which I cared in various degrees of capacity. No matter how little we might have interacted, your allegiance to enwn was something I respected! If you feel like being in contact, please feel free to reach out to me. It really saddens me. And I think I will get a big bottle of beer on May 4, after the READONLY kicks in, and drink and cry.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 11:08, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :Thank you for all your contributions to wikinews, @[[User:Acagastya|Acagastya]]. I did not have many opportunities to collaborate with you, and I wish I had. I also have spent much of my college life contributing to Wikinews, and I guess that will end with it. Thank you again, and take care. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:47, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Also BTW, there is a [https://t.me/WikinewsComm Telegram group for Wikinews]. It has been active for quite a while, and many users are present there, although I do not know their corresponding usernames. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:58, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :Actually, there is a discord server [https://discord.gg/dvBt5mxw here] already, there is more than 2 users on it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:09, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :It has been so nice working with you, @[[User:Acagastya|Acagastya]]!!! :I think some issue with Wikinews are that it lacks social media exposure. Centralised 'one wiki somewhere' model can be confusing. Most real news papers pay someone to deliver their output to multiple channels (youtube, paper delivery to homes, newsletters to email, rss). These were not leveraged here. Even though things like Mastodon existed. :I think one open source project had encouraged everyone to have a fork of it in GitHub, so they can experiment and merge later if their changes were substantial and successful. Perhaps someone could provide web hosting and ask everyone to create a fork if they wanted to maintain it and implement some ideas how to setup the workflow. These could possibly go into subdomains like 'Username-copy.wikinews.org' or 'Something-region-Username.wikinews.org'. Someone would need to go around and collect content from forks into their own fork. This could increase innovation for software and/or activate regional groups. While also making it more fragmented -- or not really, since content licence allows derivative works and re distribution, so someone could play around with how to present the same content to users differently. I think this could be inevitable. :Connections with universities did not start beyond one university. This could be improved. :Just a few thoughts on perspective in light of what you wrote above. :(Wikinews helped me pass IELTS and TOEFL reading/writing components to 100%, and get a visa to Australia and cope with English language content in first year at uni. That was my impression.) :Have a great day. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:20, 2 April 2026 (UTC) == Tech News: 2026-15 == <section begin="technews-2026-W15"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/15|Translations]] are available. 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Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/16|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Experienced editors are invited to [https://b24e11a4f1.catalyst.wmcloud.org/wiki/Main_Page test] the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Article guidance|Article guidance]] feature, designed to help less-experienced editors create well-structured, policy-compliant Wikipedia articles. Testing instructions are [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Article guidance/Test feature guide|available]]. Also, after reviewing [https://b24e11a4f1.catalyst.wmcloud.org/wiki/Category:Pages_using_article_guidance the outlines], please provide feedback on the [[mw:Talk:Article guidance|project talk page]]. Based on your input, the feature will be refined and transferred to the pilot Wikipedias to translate and adapt. Check out [[c:File:Article Guidance workflow demo - April 2026.webm|the video]] explaining the feature. 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Translation handled by wikidata now. 5007600 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=[[w:Tour de Taiwan|2008 Tour de Taiwan]]}} [[Image:2008TourDeTaiwan Stage1.jpg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=2008 Tour de Taiwan stories| * [[2008 Tour de Taiwan Stage 8: A great ending for John Murphy]] * [[2008 Taipei Cycle: Interview with Fma International about the design of "Champion Cheongsam"]] * [[2008 Tour de Taiwan, TaiSPO, and Taipei Cycle: 3-in-1 preview]] * [[2008 Tour de Taiwan Stage 1: A triple-crown honor for Kam-po Wong]] * [[2008 Tour de Taiwan Stage 2: European & American cyclists rise up]]}} {{Infosection|name=More information| * [[commons:Category:2008 Tour de Taiwan|Photo Gallery]] ** [[commons:2008 Tour de Taiwan - Stage 1|Stage 1: Kaohsiung City]] ** [[commons:2008 Tour de Taiwan - Stage 4|Stage 4: Taichung City]] ** [[commons:2008 Tour de Taiwan - Stage 6|Stage 6: Taipei County]] ** [[commons:2008 Tour de Taiwan - Stage 7|Stage 7: TWTC Nangang]] ** [[commons:2008 Tour de Taiwan - Stage 8|Stage 8: Taipei City Hall]] * [http://www.khhtri.org.tw/tourdetaiwan/ Official Website]}} {{InfoboxEnd}} <includeonly> [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:Cycling]] [[Category:Sports]] [[Category:Taiwan]] </includeonly> <noinclude> [[Category:Event infoboxes|2008 Tour de Taiwan]] </noinclude> l7v3wyhf4w6po8qj1794fwk0yqjyul7 10 89135 5007599 4234261 2026-04-13T14:24:32Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]] 5007599 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=[[2008 Taipei Game Show]]}} [[Image:2008TaipeiGameShow Day4 AreaD.jpg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=2008 Taipei Game Show stories| * [[2008 Taipei Game Show preview highlights computer industry]] * [[Gaming executives gather for the 2008 Taipei Game Show]] * [[Sony Computer Entertainment announce talent project to help digital content industry in Taiwan]] * [[International participants showcase different industry cultures at 2008 Taipei Game Show]] * [[Microsoft Taiwan, IGS, GameFlier, and Softstar win the Popular Game Voting of 2008 Taipei Game Show]]}} {{Infosection|name=More information| *[http://show.tca.org.tw/2008tgs/index_e.php Official Website] *[[commons:2008 Taipei Game Show|Photo Gallery]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}} <includeonly> [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:Games]] [[Category:Taiwan]] </includeonly> <noinclude> [[Category:Event infoboxes|2008 Taipei Game Show]] [[zh:Template:2008 Taipei Game Show]] </noinclude> c0f2nf2re610u5pd0a3ga4wbh5u2qvs 10 96812 5007598 4234266 2026-04-13T14:22:56Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. Translation handled by wikidata now. 5007598 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=[[2008 United States presidential election|2008 United States Presidential Election]]}} [[Image:WikiNews Election 2008.svg|center|200px]] {{Infosection|name=2008 U.S. Presidential Election stories| * [[Super Tuesday 2012: 'Joe the Plumber' wins GOP congressional primary]] * [[Non-profit ACORN plans to shut down]] * [[US Senate Majority leader Harry Reid criticized over "Negro" comments]] * [[Former U.S. Presidential candidate Gene Amondson dies following a stroke]] * [[Photo source for Barack Obama presidential campaign "HOPE" poster discovered]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}}<includeonly>{{#if:{{{nocat|}}}|| [[Category:2008 United States federal elections]] [[Category:2008 United States presidential election]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:North America]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] }}</includeonly> <noinclude> [[Category:Event infoboxes|2008 US Presidential Election]] </noinclude> jicfg0w7fu7lzfjcarn3wgl8yigl0tu 0 98354 5007980 4825740 2026-04-14T11:08:41Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007980 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|February 2, 2008}} {{Iraq}}On Friday, twin attacks in [[Iraq]] killed at least 72 people and wounded another 149. Separated by twenty minutes, the bombings targeted two marketplaces in [[Baghdad]] shortly before the call to Friday prayers. These attacks were unlike {{w|suicide bombings}} in that the bombs were dynamite and {{w|ball bearing}}s strapped to two [[women]]. These human bombs were then detonated remotely using {{w|mobile phone}}. The identities of the women have not been released. Major-General Qassim Moussawi, spokesman for the {{w|Iraqi military}} in Baghdad said, "The operation was carried out by two booby-trapped mentally disabled women." He did not explain how the forensic evidence could have proven the {{w|mental disability}} of the women. "We found the mobiles used to detonate the women," he said. Moussawi said this of the investigation: "Forensic and bomb squad experts as well as the people and traders of {{w|al-Shorja}} area of the carpet market have confirmed that the woman who was blown-up there today was often in the area and was mentally disabled... In the {{w|New Baghdad}} area the shop owners and customers of the pet market confirmed that the woman who was blown-up there was mentally disabled as well." {{QuoteLeft|Most people who visit this market are poor and just want to enjoy themselves but they came and got killed.|4=Hassan Salman}} An aide to Moussawi suggested the claims were based on eye-witness reports. He also said authorities believe the women were unaware of plans to detonate the explosives. Lt. Col. Steve Stover, a spokesman for the {{w|multinational force in Iraq|multinational force}} in Baghdad, said, "By targeting innocent Iraqis, they show their true demonic character. They care nothing for the Iraqi people; they want to subjugate them and forcefully create a greater [[Islam]]ic [[sharia]] state." Later, Stover told [[Reuters]] that the U.S. military was not aware of evidence to suggest the women were mentally handicapped. Pentagon reports on the attacks also lacked any reference to the mental condition of the women. "There is nothing they won't do if they think it will work in creating {{wikt|carnage|anchor=Noun}} and the political fallout that comes from that," the {{w|United States Ambassador to Iraq|U.S. Ambassador}} {{w|Ryan Crocker}} said. He blamed the attacks on [[Al-Qaeda]] in Iraq. {{w|United States Secretary of State|U.S. Secretary of State}} [[Condoleezza Rice]] said the bombings underlined "the absolute bankruptcy and brutality" of those who carried them out. "The Iraqi people have been right to turn against these terrible, violent people in their midst who will do anything." Forty-five were killed at the Ghazl pet market, and 27 were killed in New Baghdad. The Ghazl market is only open on Fridays and had remained popular despite two attacks in 2007. Both attacks were centered on pet markets. "Most people who visit this market are poor and just want to enjoy themselves but they came and got killed," said Hassan Salman, who sells bird seed at the Ghazl market. The attacks are the deadliest in Iraq since the {{w|19 June 2007 al-Khilani Mosque bombing|al-Khilani Mosque bombing}} which killed 87 people on June 19, 2007. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source |url = http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSL1880448320080201 |title = Female bombers kill 72 at Baghdad pet markets |author = Paul Tait and Dean Yates |pub = Reuters |date = February 1, 2008 }} *{{source |url = http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7221639.stm |title = Twin bombs kill scores in Baghdad |author = |pub = BBC News Online |date = February 1, 2008 }} *{{source |url = http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/02/01/iraq.main/index.html |title = U.S.: 'Demonic' militants sent women to bomb markets in Iraq |author = Ahmed Taha and Jomana Karadsheh |pub = CNN |date = February 1, 2008 }} {{publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Middle East]] [[Category:Iraq]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Al-Qaeda]] [[Category:Condoleezza Rice]] [[Category:Baghdad]] [[Category:Shari'a]] [[pt:Pessoas morrem no Iraque devido a dois ataques consecutivos no mercado central de Bagdá]] qjub7ylurmlf4s41rx71aicel7aaclz 10 99266 5007605 4234270 2026-04-13T14:40:59Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. 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Translation links now handled by wikidata. 5007617 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=2008 Taipei AMPA}} [[Image:2008TaipeiAMPA Day1 TWTC Nangang The Title.jpg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=2008 Taipei AMPA stories| * [[Automobile, motorcycle, and electronic industries center at TWTC & TWTC Nangang]] * [[2008 Taipei AMPA: IT industry will pulse the growth of automotive industry]]}} {{Infosection|name=More information| * [http://www.taipeiampa.com.tw/ Official Website] * [[commons:Category:2008 Taipei AMPA|Photo Gallery]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}} <includeonly> [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:Taiwan]] [[Category:Science and technology]] [[Category:Economy and business]] </includeonly> <noinclude> [[Category:Event infoboxes|2008 Taipei AMPA]] </noinclude> e1oxryphymxn5yupzjamgksyiumddis 4 105296 5007923 4747784 2026-04-14T11:01:56Z Koavf 5879 /* May need Topic cat */ 5007923 wikitext text/x-wiki {{shortcut|WN:TO-DO}} Deep in the distant past you probably got a Welcome template dropped on your talk page. One of the points it raises is, ''there are always things to do on '''Wikinews'''''. As a news site you could write articles until you had worn the tips off your fingers, but there would still be a demand for more. Outside the main namespace where articles go there are also things that may need your attention. A number of these are items that can only be handled by administrators, but that should not stop you looking at the appropriate pages and seeing if you can get involved - or learn what you will have to deal with when you are made an admin. Much of this is "housework", required to keep the site well maintained. The more people go through a few of the following items when they first log on to Wikinews, the less of a backlog will build up. == [[WN:ARCHIVE|Archiving]] == This - regrettably - is one only for administrators. It is a task that fills up recent changes but doesn't seem to achieve much else. 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Taiwan Design Competition" announced * [[2008 YODEX Review: Varied competitions, Vast creations]]}} {{Infosection|name=More information| *[http://yodex.boco.com.tw/ Official Website] {{zh}} *[[commons:Category:2008 YODEX|Show Photos]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}} <includeonly> [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:Taiwan]] [[Category:Science and technology]] [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] </includeonly> <noinclude> [[Category:Event infoboxes|2008 YODEX]] </noinclude> 7pjvf8la0v5bsycklvua3s3pxfcrfe9 0 107059 5007986 4828646 2026-04-14T11:08:43Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007986 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|May 31, 2008}} {{Infobox Health}}The [[w:United Nations|United Nations]] (UNFPA) organization [[w:United Nations Population Fund|United Nations Population Fund]] emphasized the importance of [[w:Women's health|women's health]] in [[Africa]] at the 4th [[w:Tokyo International Conference on African Development|Tokyo International Conference on African Development]] (TICAD IV). Priorities of the conference include [[w:Economy|economic]] growth, [[w:Peace|peace]] and [[w:Democracy|democracy]] and [[w:Climate change|climate change]]. The three-day conference which ended Friday included representatives from over 80 countries. [[Image:Fukuda meets Rice February 27, 2008 cropped.jpg|thumb|left|[[w:Prime Minister of Japan|Prime Minister of Japan]] [[w:Yasuo Fukuda|Yasuo Fukuda]] {{Image source|[[w:United States Department of State|United States Department of State]]}}]] At the conference in [[w:Yokohama, Japan|Yokohama, Japan]], over 40 heads of State agreed on health priorities adopted at the end of the three-day summit. The theme of the conference was "Towards a vibrant Africa: A continent of hope and opportunity", and approximately 86 countries were represented, as well as international organizations. The Yokohama Action Plan prioritizes universal access to reproductive health services and an increase in the number of African women who give birth with skilled assistance. [[Japan]]ese [[w:Prime Minister of Japan|Prime Minister of Japan]] [[w:Yasuo Fukuda|Yasuo Fukuda]] announced steps which would be taken by his country to further health conditions in Africa, including: increasing funding to [[w:The Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria|The Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria]], training 100,000 African health workers, and doubling the country's bilateral development assistance to Africa by 2012. "In the future, Africa will become a powerful engine driving the growth of the world," said Mr. Fukuda at the start of the conference. The Prime Minister said Japan would offer up to [[w:United States dollar|US$]]4 billion in loans to African countries to go towards agriculture and infrastructure. He announced the formation of the Japan Bank for International Cooperation Facility for African Investment, which will provide $2.5 billion in financial assistance. {{QuoteRight|Reducing maternal mortality lies at the heart of implementation to achieve all the other goals.|4=[[w:Asha-Rose Migiro|Asha-Rose Migiro]]}} United Nations Deputy Secretary-General [[w:Asha-Rose Migiro|Asha-Rose Migiro]] cited priority 5 of the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) - preventing women's deaths during pregnancy and childbirth as a serious challenge. "Reducing maternal mortality lies at the heart of implementation to achieve all the other goals," said Migiro. {{QuoteLeft|...preventing women's deaths during pregnancy and childbirth - is generating the least resources and lagging the furthest behind. And African women are paying the price.|4=[[w:Thoraya Obaid|Thoraya Ahmed Obaid]]}} UNFPA Executive Director [[w:Thoraya Obaid|Thoraya Ahmed Obaid]] told conference participants that women's health in Africa should be made a priority. "Of all the Millennium Development Goals, goal number five - preventing women's deaths during pregnancy and childbirth - is generating the least resources and lagging the furthest behind. And African women are paying the price," she said. Obaid urged world leaders "to make the health of women a political and development priority". TICAD holds summits every five years, and is a joint program between Japan and the [[w:United Nations Development Programme|United Nations Development Programme]]. Japan will report the conference results at the [[w:G8|Group of Eight]] (G8) meeting in Tokyo in July, which will be chaired by Prime Minister Fukuda. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == {{Wikipediapars|[[w:United Nations Population Fund|United Nations Population Fund]] and [[w:Women's health|Women's health]]}} *{{source|url=http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-05/31/content_8289007.htm|title=UN calls on world leaders to prioritize health of African women|author=|pub=Xinhua News Agency|date=May 31, 2008}} *{{source-pr|url=http://www.unfpa.org/news/news.cfm?ID=1136|title=Stronger Health Systems and Better Maternal Health Critical to African Development, Japan Summit Affirms|author=|pub=United Nations Population Fund|date=May 30, 2008}} *{{source|url=http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=26863&Cr=ticad&Cr1=|title=Health of African women should be priority, UN says|author=|pub=UN News Centre|date=May 30, 2008}} *{{source-pr|url=http://www.unfpa.org/news/news.cfm?ID=1135|title=Leaders at Japan-Africa Gathering Should Speed Action to End Maternal Death, Reduce Poverty in Africa, Says UNFPA|author=|pub=United Nations Population Fund|date=May 26, 2008}} {{publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Africa]] [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:Japan]] [[Category:Tokyo]] [[Category:Health]] [[Category:United Nations]] 1hv8mg08a3nwgedimbtrfz2wmrdb851 10 107066 5007611 4234267 2026-04-13T14:50:13Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 replace broken image 5007611 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=2008 WiMAX Expo Taipei}} [[Image:2008 WiMAX Expo Taipei Press Conference-1.jpg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=2008 WiMAX Expo Taipei stories| <DynamicPageList> category=Published category=2008 WiMAX Expo Taipei addfirstcategorydate=true count=5 orcer=addcategory suppresserrors=true namespace=Main </DynamicPageList>}} {{Infosection|name=More Information| *[http://www.wimaxtaipei.tw/ Official Website] *[http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikinews-l/2008-May/001276.html WiMAX Taipei Expo Media Events]}} ---- <div align="right">[[:Portal:2008 COMPUTEX Taipei|» 2008 COMPUTEX Portal]]<br>[[w:WiMAX|» More about WiMAX]]</div> {{InfoboxEnd}} <includeonly> [[Category:Computing]] [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:Taiwan]] [[Category:Science and technology]] [[Category:Economy and business]] [[Category:Internet]] [[Category:2008 WiMAX Expo Taipei]] </includeonly> <noinclude> [[Category:Event infoboxes|2008 WiMAX Expo Taipei]] [[zh:Template:2008 WiMAX Expo Taipei]] </noinclude> murllzfs4es3xngtf4u0v05o8wf6aev 5007613 5007611 2026-04-13T14:51:22Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. 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[[Category:State infoboxes]] </noinclude> 39bs34lko2glpztxj2e9cxf33ewqkll 10 112651 5007593 4234291 2026-04-13T14:15:21Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]] 5007593 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=Invitational Games for the Deaf, Taipei 2008}} [[Image:IGD2008Taipei Taipei Nangang Sports Center the entrance.jpg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=News stories| * [['Invitational Games for the Deaf, Taipei 2008' starts, new slogan for 2009 Summer Deaflympics unveiled]] * [['Invitational Games for the Deaf, Taipei 2008' Day 2 features martial art events]] * [['Invitational Games for the Deaf, Taipei 2008': Review of soccer preliminaries]] * [['Invitational Games for the Deaf, Taipei 2008' comes to a close]]}} {{Infosection|name=More information| * [http://igdt2008en.ezpor.com/ Official Website]}} {{InfoboxEnd}}<includeonly>[[Category:World]][[Category:Asia]][[Category:Sports]][[Category:Taiwan]]</includeonly> <noinclude>[[Category:Event infoboxes|IGD2008Taipei]][[zh:Template:IGD2008Taipei]]</noinclude> sjkafxo0v3n9yjhdiqe57shdolmyy4f 10 112929 5007678 4578017 2026-04-13T16:30:57Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. 5007678 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=Nevada}} [[Image:Nevada in United States.svg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=Related articles| * [[Trump wins 2024 U.S. presidential election, securing 312 electoral votes and all swing states]] * [[Wikinews interviews Phil Collins, U.S. Prohibition Party presidential nominee]] * [[On the campaign trail in the USA, September 2020]] * [[On the campaign trail in the USA, October 2020]] * [[Bernie Sanders wins 2020 Nevada caucuses]]}} {{Infosection|name=Read more|[[File:Flag of Nevada.svg|90px|center|link=Category:Nevada]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude> An infobox for {{PAGENAME}} and its news. 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[[Category:State infoboxes]] </noinclude> m5hb2z4qb567npxkmj84tocciq02l2x 10 112931 5007682 4504159 2026-04-13T16:34:47Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. 5007682 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=New York}} [[Image:New York in United States.svg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=Related articles| * [[Musique Libre Femmes plays for Women's History Month at Tompkins Square Library in New York City]] * [[Musical performance presented by Striped Light in Long Island City, New York showcases four performers]] * [[Poets gather for reading at Ray's Pizza in New York City]] * [[Midtown Manhattan Nightclub Shooting: one killed, shooter at large]] * [[Current New York Police Department commissioner agrees to stay on for Mamdani's mayoralty]]}} {{Infosection|name=Read more|[[File:Flag of New York.svg|90px|center|link=Category:New York]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude> An infobox for {{PAGENAME}} and its news. 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Translation links now handled by wikidata. 5007700 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=Texas}} [[Image:Texas in United States.svg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=Related articles| * [[Wikinews attends Veterans Day event in Texas, United States]] * [[Wikinews interviews magician and illusion builder Bruce Chadwick for National Magic Week]] * [[Beyoncé halts performance after "flying car" prop malfunctions mid-air above audience]] * [[Texas police arrest mother and her son on terrorism charges]] * [[Texas authorities announce manhunt after alleged murderer's ankle monitor found in fire]]}} {{Infosection|name=Read more|[[File:Flag of Texas.svg|90px|center|link=Category:Texas]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude> An infobox for {{PAGENAME}} and its news. ''Are newer articles not showing? [{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=purge}} Refresh]'' Customize this infobox '''{{#ifexist:Template:Infobox/lookup/{{PAGENAME}}|[[Template:Infobox/lookup/{{PAGENAME}}|here]]|{{plainlinks|{{fullurl:Template:Infobox/lookup/{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit&preload=Template:Infobox+table/preload}}|here}}}}{{hidden use|Template:Infobox table/preload}}'''. [[Category:State infoboxes]] </noinclude> dotlnwnlg57yp2phzu83j2nvkkxyj81 0 113046 5007942 4816719 2026-04-14T11:08:27Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007942 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|September 15, 2008}} {{2008 US Presidential Election}} {{w|Anchorage, Alaska|Anchorage}}, [[Alaska]] — A group calling itself "Alaska Women Reject Palin" held an anti-[[Sarah Palin]] rally Saturday, despite receiving threatening phone calls last week. Palin is the vice presidential candidate, running with [[John McCain]], on the Republican ticket in the American presidential election to be held on Nov. 4. On Wednesday, the group sent a press release to the local media about the rally. The press release, a copy of which was obtained by ''Wikinews'', says that Alaska Women Reject Palin is a group "who challenge the claim that Palin's value systems and ideals reflect all women and middle-class American families, and who urge voters to scrutinize Palin's politics, and decide for themselves if hers is the example by which they and their families want to live." "The whole thing grew out of frustration," Charla Sterne, one of Alaska Women Reject Palin's group members and an organizer of the rally, told ''{{w|The Washington Post}}''. "Last week this was just ten women sitting around talking about this perception that all of Alaska supports Sarah Palin. We apparently hit a nerve and started a movement." {{missing image|Image:Anti-Sarah Palin Rally Sept 13 2008 64.jpg|thumb|left|Radio show host Eddie Burke at the anti-Palin Rally on Saturday. {{image credit|[http://mudflats.wordpress.com/about-mudflats/ AKMuckraker]}}}}Eddie Burke, a {{w|KBYR (AM)|KBYR}} talk radio host, broadcast the names and contact information of two of the group's members on the air. "They're a bunch of socialist maggots, that's what I'm going to call them — socialist maggots, that's what they are, a bunch of socialist baby-killing maggots," Burke said on his radio show, according to local television news station {{w|KTUU-TV|KTUU}} 2. Burke says he's conservative and a "Palinista," but on Thursday he admitted to KTUU news that he "... was probably a little over the top." According to KTUU, Burke encouraged his listeners to call the two organizers listed in the press release. Burke called the document public, but one organizer objected to the release of information on ethical grounds. "I was honestly shocked because I couldn't believe that a member of the media would take information that I think is pretty standard in a press release and use it for what seems like pretty unethical purposes, for one thing," an organizer told KTUU. The organizer's name was not released by KTUU, and her image was distorted on television broadcasts. KTUU broadcast part of one message sent to an organizer, "You liberals need to get a life. What is wrong with you? You think you speak for everybody? You don't speak for nobody but your individual, stupid selves." {{w|Alaska Public Media|Alaska Public Radio}} published portions of three messages, including the one broadcast by KTUU. "[a]nd don't go around and tell people that you are standing up for all the women of Alaska," one woman said, "that's not right. ... " "I just heard on Eddie Burke about you," another woman said, "you people are disgusting, how can you call yourself a woman." Both organizers said their voice mail systems were "full of messages." "We were bombarded with all kinds of hateful, abusive, intimidating phone calls," organizer Sterne told the ''{{w|Anchorage Daily News}}''. It not clear if Sterne is the same woman interviewed by KTUU, but Alaska Public Radio said that Sterne considered not attending the rally, but decided to go through with it. According to KTUU, the two organizers contacted police, and were told that they could file an alleged-harassment report, but as of Thursday, had not done so. KTUU cites Anchorage Police Department Lt. Paul Honeman as saying that Burke's on-air encouragement instigated the harassment. As of Thursday, Burke has not been punished in any way. === The rallies === {{missing image|Image:Anti-Sarah Palin Rally Sept 13 2008 52.jpg|thumb|right|Three women hold signs at a rally an anti-Sarah Palin rally in Anchorage Alaska on Sept. 13, 2008. {{image credit|[http://mudflats.wordpress.com/about-mudflats/ AKMuckraker]}}}} According to the ''Anchorage Daily News'', word of the rally spread via the internet and as many as 1500 people attended, both for and against Palin. The rally started just hours after Palin spoke in downtown Anchorage's {{w|Dena'ina Civic and Convention Center}}, to a crowd estimated between 1000 and 1500. The event was dubbed "Welcome Home Sarah." "Alaska, I'll be doing it for you," Palin said. "Going forth in these days ahead, Alaska, I pledge to do my level best and to be worthy of the confidence this beautiful state has put in me." Angie Doroff, a rally organizer said she "pleased and surprised" at the turnout. "We're not alone. A lot of people are worried about the nomination of Sarah Palin," Doroff told the [[Associated Press]]. Comments about Palin at the second rally were mainly negative, but views differed among those gathered in support of Palin. "Sarah Palin frightens the hell out of me. I don't want her anywhere near the White House," Marybeth Holleman of Anchorage told the ''Anchorage Daily News''. {{missing image|Image:Anti-Sarah Palin Rally Sept 13 2008 55.jpg|thumb|left|Protesters, including some children, hold signs protesting Sarah Palin and John McCain, while others hold signs supporting [[Barack Obama]] at an anti-Sarah Palin rally in Anchorage Alaska on Sept. 13, 2008. {{image credit|[http://mudflats.wordpress.com/about-mudflats/ AKMuckraker]}}}}According to the ''Anchorage Daily News'', supporters of Palin cite the good she has done as Governor of Alaska, including a check all Alaskans received from the state. "I'll bet on the other side none of those people are going to reject that and send it back," Rick Case said of the $1,200 check. Alison Till, a geologist with the U.S. Geological Survey, criticized Palin on what Till called her lack of reliance on "solid and unbiased science" when making decision about energy, global warming, the teaching of creationism in public schools and her refusal to put polar bears on the list of endangered species. "She is unqualified," Till told the ''Anchorage Daily News''. At the Palin rally, views were different. "I'm all in for Sarah," Tracy Jones told the ''Anchorage Daily News''. "This is really exciting. I watched this town go from crayons to perfume. I think it's fresh, exciting, and I'm really proud of her." "This is a historic moment," 84-year-old first-time political-rally-attendee Pauline Kee said. "This is the most important day for Sarah and the state." ''Wikinews'' has sent an e-mail to Burke, but as of midnight Sunday, he has not responded. {{Audio|En-Despite_threats_Alaska_Women_Reject_Palin_rally_held.ogg|2008-09-15}} {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == {{original}} *{{source|url=http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-13-anti-Palin-rally_N.htm |title=Anti-Palin rally draws hundreds in Alaska |author=Associated Press |pub=USA Today |date=September 14, 2008}} *{{source|url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/13/in_anrchorage_an_anti-palin_pr.html |title=In Anchorage, an Anti-Palin Protest |author=Karl Vick |pub=Washington Post |date=September 14, 2008}} *{{source|url=http://www.adn.com/front/story/525506.html |title=A taste of fame |author=Seam Cockerham and Megan Holland |pub=Anchorage Daily News |date=September 14, 2008}} *{{source|url=http://www.adn.com/front/story/525510.html |title=Anti-Palin activists stage their own rally |author=Seam Cockerham |pub=Anchorage Daily News |date=September 14, 2008}} *{{source|url=http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8996315 |title=Anti-Palin rally organizers receive threats |author=Lori Tipton |pub=KTUU |date=September 11, 2008}} *{{source|url=http://womenagainstpalin.com/blog2/2008/09/11/join-alaskan-women-to-reject-palin-rally-on-satuday-sept-13th/ |title=Women Against Palin &raquo; Join the Alaskan Women Reject Palin Rally on Satuday Sept. 13th |author=Alaskan Women Reject Palin |pub=womenagainstpalin.com |date=September 11, 2008}} *{{source|url=http://aprn.org/2008/09/11/women-disagreeing-with-palins-politics-holding-rally-despite-hateful-backlash/ |title=Women disagreeing with Palin's politics holding rally despite hateful backlash |author=Dave Donaldson |pub=Alaska Public Radio |date=September 11, 2008}} {{publish}} [[Category:United States]] [[Category:Alaska]] [[Category:Barack Obama]] [[Category:John McCain]] [[Category:Sarah Palin]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:2008 United States presidential election]] [[Category:Republican Party (United States)]] [[Category:Species endangerment]] [[Category:Polar bears]] {{Archived-cc-2.5}} qkxbmzp2mt0sq8gugjxmamvm2kl9o5m 10 113527 5007537 5007442 2026-04-13T12:00:58Z BOT-Superzerocool 18821 Bot: Update Market Data [[:es:User Talk:Superzerocool|Comments (es.wikinews)]] 5007537 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Stock Markets | date = 13 April, 2026 | hour= 12:00 | extrainfo= {{{extrainfo|}}} | align = {{{align}}} | width= {{{width|{{#if:{{{width|}}}|50%|35%}}}}}} | country= {{{country}}} | IBEX 35 = #N/A | IBEX 35-c = #N/A | IBEX 35-p = #N/A | IBEX 35-tl = {{loss}} | FTSE 100 = 10538.56 | FTSE 100-c = -60.98 | FTSE 100-p = -0.58 | FTSE 100-tl = {{loss}} | DAX = 23531.74 | DAX-c = -272.21 | DAX-p = -1.14 | DAX-tl = {{loss}} | SMI = 13077.07 | SMI-c = -106.21 | SMI-p = -0.81 | SMI-tl = {{loss}} | AEX = 1006.41 | AEX-c = -3.84 | AEX-p = -0.38 | AEX-tl = {{loss}} | BEL20 = 5408.42 | BEL20-c = -47.17 | BEL20-p = -0.86 | BEL20-tl = {{loss}} | OMX Stockholm 30 = 3080.78 | OMX Stockholm 30-c = 1.47 | OMX Stockholm 30-p = 0.05 | OMX Stockholm 30-tl = {{profit}} | Nasdaq = 22902.90 | Nasdaq-c = 80.48 | Nasdaq-p = 0.35 | Nasdaq-tl = {{profit}} | S&P 500 = 6816.89 | S&P 500-c = -7.77 | S&P 500-p = -0.11 | S&P 500-tl = {{loss}} | Bovespa = 197323.88 | Bovespa-c = 2194.63 | Bovespa-p = 1.12 | Bovespa-tl = {{profit}} | All Ordinaries = 9113.40 | All Ordinaries-c = -42.40 | All Ordinaries-p = -0.46 | All Ordinaries-tl = {{loss}} | Nikkei = 56502.77 | Nikkei-c = -421.34 | Nikkei-p = -0.74 | Nikkei-tl = {{loss}} | Hang Seng = 25660.85 | Hang Seng-c = -232.69 | Hang Seng-p = -0.90 | Hang Seng-tl = {{loss}} | BSE Sensex = 76847.57 | BSE Sensex-c = -702.68 | BSE Sensex-p = -0.91 | BSE Sensex-tl = {{loss}} | IDX Composite = 7500.19 | IDX Composite-c = 41.69 | IDX Composite-p = 0.56 | IDX Composite-tl = {{profit}} }}<noinclude>{{clear}}{{documentation}}</noinclude> n1nkunbz4c22jgez5flhwfvmzrfufnn 5007815 5007537 2026-04-14T00:01:10Z BOT-Superzerocool 18821 Bot: Update Market Data [[:es:User Talk:Superzerocool|Comments (es.wikinews)]] 5007815 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Stock Markets | date = 14 April, 2026 | hour= 00:00 | extrainfo= {{{extrainfo|}}} | align = {{{align}}} | width= {{{width|{{#if:{{{width|}}}|50%|35%}}}}}} | country= {{{country}}} | IBEX 35 = #N/A | IBEX 35-c = #N/A | IBEX 35-p = #N/A | IBEX 35-tl = {{loss}} | FTSE 100 = 10582.96 | FTSE 100-c = -17.57 | FTSE 100-p = -0.17 | FTSE 100-tl = {{loss}} | DAX = 23742.44 | DAX-c = -61.51 | DAX-p = -0.26 | DAX-tl = {{loss}} | SMI = 13145.91 | SMI-c = -37.37 | SMI-p = -0.28 | SMI-tl = {{loss}} | AEX = 1012.18 | AEX-c = 1.93 | AEX-p = 0.19 | AEX-tl = {{profit}} | BEL20 = 5426.85 | BEL20-c = -28.74 | BEL20-p = -0.53 | BEL20-tl = {{loss}} | OMX Stockholm 30 = 3102.73 | OMX Stockholm 30-c = -7.17 | OMX Stockholm 30-p = -0.23 | OMX Stockholm 30-tl = {{loss}} | Nasdaq = 23183.74 | Nasdaq-c = 280.84 | Nasdaq-p = 1.23 | Nasdaq-tl = {{profit}} | S&P 500 = 6886.24 | S&P 500-c = 69.35 | S&P 500-p = 1.02 | S&P 500-tl = {{profit}} | Bovespa = 198000.70 | Bovespa-c = 676.83 | Bovespa-p = 0.34 | Bovespa-tl = {{profit}} | All Ordinaries = 9201.40 | All Ordinaries-c = 88.00 | All Ordinaries-p = 0.97 | All Ordinaries-tl = {{profit}} | Nikkei = 56502.77 | Nikkei-c = -421.34 | Nikkei-p = -0.74 | Nikkei-tl = {{loss}} | Hang Seng = 25660.85 | Hang Seng-c = -232.69 | Hang Seng-p = -0.90 | Hang Seng-tl = {{loss}} | BSE Sensex = 76847.57 | BSE Sensex-c = -702.68 | BSE Sensex-p = -0.91 | BSE Sensex-tl = {{loss}} | IDX Composite = 7500.19 | IDX Composite-c = 41.69 | IDX Composite-p = 0.56 | IDX Composite-tl = {{profit}} }}<noinclude>{{clear}}{{documentation}}</noinclude> 4axzl6zqk1t2rvkzy6zltev5u1c2rv1 0 113699 5007944 4817049 2026-04-14T11:08:28Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007944 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|September 24, 2008}} {{Publish}} {{Economy and business}} In a recent study released by the [[w:World Bank|World Bank]] and the [[w:Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development|Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development]] (OECD), economic opportunities for women are still lagging behind opportunities for men in the [[w:developing world|developing world]]. Improvements have been made in women health and education, according to the study. [[Image:A mother with her child in a village in Malawi.jpg|thumb|left|It is estimated that $13 billion a year will be needed to improve economic opportunities for women]] The study calls for investments totaling over US$13 billion a year to achieve gender equality and women empowerment. Danny Leipziger, World Bank Vice President for Poverty Reduction and Economic Management, said, "gender equality is key for poverty reduction and growth. Progress on women’s education is essential but not enough if we don’t improve women’s access to good jobs and credit lines, to land ownership and to income-generating activities." The study ''Equality for Women: Where Do We Stand on Millennium Development Goal 3?'' looks at the achievements made by the developing world as laid out by the [[w:Millennium Development Goals|Millennium Development Goals]] (MD). These goals are eight [[w:international development|international development]] goals that 189 [[w:United Nations|United Nations]] member states and at least 23 international organizations have agreed to achieve by the year 2015. They include halving extreme poverty, reducing child mortality rates, fighting disease epidemics such as AIDS, and developing a global partnership for development. Education has improved in 82 countries out of 122 and are on track to meet their MD goals. However, 19 countries, 13 of which are in Sub- Saharan Africa, are seriously off track to meet their target. The United Nations will hold a conference on Thursday at the annual session of the UN in New York to discuss the Millennium Development Goals. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source-pr|url=http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/NEWS/0,,contentMDK:21912680~pagePK:34370~piPK:34424~theSitePK:4607,00.html|title= Mixed Results Towards Gender Equality, Say World Bank and OECD|pub=World Bank|date=September 24, 2008}} *{{source|url=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/13_bn_a_year_needed_to_achieve_gender_equality_World_Bank/articleshow/3523478.cms|title=$13 bn a year needed to achieve gender equality: World Bank|author=|pub=Economic Times|date=September 24, 2008}} [[Category:World Bank]] [[Category:United Nations]] [[Category:Africa]] [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:World]] [[Category:Economy and business]] [[Category:Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development]] {{Archived-cc-2.5}} p134wvbad0rzsbw7rmffdebffmzwejo 10 113780 5007676 4578011 2026-04-13T16:29:43Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. 5007676 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=Nebraska}} [[Image:Nebraska in United States.svg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=Related articles| * [[Explosions kill four in Laurel, Nebraska]] * [[On the campaign trail in the USA, October 2020]] * [[Hundreds arrested for 'dark web' child porn by international task force]] * [[On the campaign trail in the USA, May 2016]] * [[Sandra Fluke gives keynote speech at Nebraska women's health event]]}} {{Infosection|name=Read more|[[File:Flag of Nebraska.svg|90px|center|link=Category:Nebraska]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude> An infobox for {{PAGENAME}} and its news. 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[[Category:State infoboxes]] </noinclude> prkx9blsmokzog662uz9vl3p4v9lk1u 10 113793 5007667 4577989 2026-04-13T16:23:22Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. 5007667 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=Louisiana}} [[Image:Louisiana in United States.svg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=Related articles| * [["Too Easy LoL": messages written on cell wall as ten inmates escape from Orleans Parish Prison in Louisiana, United States]] * [[New York county clerk says Texas cannot fine abortion doctor]] * [[On the campaign trail in the USA, July 2020]] * [[Wikinews interviews Bill Hammons, Unity Party of America presidential nominee]] * [[On the campaign trail in the USA, October 2020]]}} {{Infosection|name=Read more|[[File:Flag of Louisiana.svg|90px|center|link=Category:Louisiana]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude> An infobox for {{PAGENAME}} and its news. ''Are newer articles not showing? [{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=purge}} Refresh]'' Customize this infobox '''{{#ifexist:Template:Infobox/lookup/{{PAGENAME}}|[[Template:Infobox/lookup/{{PAGENAME}}|here]]|{{plainlinks|{{fullurl:Template:Infobox/lookup/{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit&preload=Template:Infobox+table/preload}}|here}}}}{{hidden use|Template:Infobox table/preload}}'''. [[Category:State infoboxes]] </noinclude> j9e0bd54j8oydokjgs9bg9uo23e2273 10 115016 5007679 4578020 2026-04-13T16:32:13Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. 5007679 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=New Hampshire}} [[Image:New Hampshire in United States.svg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=Related articles| * [[Three-car crash in New Hampshire on Frederick E. Everett Turnpike kills one]] * [[Man arrested after driving wrong way on Interstate 93 in New Hampshire]] * [[2020 United States presidential election: Trump, Sanders win New Hampshire primaries]] * [[New Hampshire crash kills seven, including former US Marines]] * [[Driver in New Hampshire multi-motorcycle crash pleads not guilty]]}} {{Infosection|name=Read more|[[File:Flag of New Hampshire.svg|90px|center|link=Category:New Hampshire]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude> An infobox for {{PAGENAME}} and its news. ''Are newer articles not showing? [{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=purge}} Refresh]'' Customize this infobox '''{{#ifexist:Template:Infobox/lookup/{{PAGENAME}}|[[Template:Infobox/lookup/{{PAGENAME}}|here]]|{{plainlinks|{{fullurl:Template:Infobox/lookup/{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit&preload=Template:Infobox+table/preload}}|here}}}}{{hidden use|Template:Infobox table/preload}}'''. [[Category:State infoboxes]] </noinclude> 2qfop0ut2ueeench1bhwiw8hacmzce9 0 119788 5007954 4818921 2026-04-14T11:08:31Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007954 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|January 23, 2009}} {{USA}} [[File:Kirsten Gillibrand, official photo portrait, 2006.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Kirsten Gillibrand. {{image credit|United States Congress}}]] Today, {{w|David Paterson}}, the governor of [[New York State|New York]], appointed [[Kirsten Gillibrand]] as the replacement in the [[United States Senate]] for [[Hillary Clinton]], who left the position to become Secretary of State in [[Barack Obama]]'s administration. Gillibrand, 42, was a member of the [[United States House of Representatives|House of Representatives]] from {{w|Hudson, New York|Hudson}} and is, like Clinton, a member of the [[United States Democratic Party|Democratic Party]]. "I believe I have found the best candidate to become the next senator from the state of New York. She is dynamic, she is articulate, she is perceptive, she is outspoken," said Paterson at a news conference. This selection came after {{w|Caroline Kennedy}}, the daughter of former President {{w|John F. Kennedy}} and leading candidate for the job, withdrew from the consideration for the seat on January 21 due to unspecified personal reasons. Kennedy was one of approximately 20 candidates that Governor Paterson said he considered for the position, including fellow New York Congressmen {{w|Carolyn Maloney}} and {{w|Jerrold Nadler}}. New York's attorney general [[Andrew Cuomo]] was also considered. Cuomo was the top choice in voter opinion polls, according to CNN. Clinton expressed approval of the appointment in a statement: "Kirsten is an intelligent and dedicated public servant and a dear friend. I'm pleased that this seat, which has been my great honor to hold, and which has in its history been held by leaders like former Senators {{w|Daniel Patrick Moynihan}} and {{w|Robert F. Kennedy}}, will be in such capable hands." President Obama also approved of her, stating, "Kirsten has been a strong voice for transparency and reform in government and shares the belief that government should be open, accessible and work for all our citizens." {{QuoteLeft|Kirsten has been a strong voice for transparency and reform in government and shares the belief that government should be open, accessible and work for all our citizens.|source=Barack Obama}} In statements, Gillibrand said that she will be a supporter of [[same-sex marriage]] and an advocate for women's rights. She has also promised a state {{w|economic stimulus package}} that would support New York's education as well as put forth funding for the environment and a new project that would create a {{w|high-speed rail}} system linking {{w|New York City}} with {{w|Albany}}, the state capital. The appointment has been criticized by gun-control and immigration advocates. In particular Gillibrand's opinion on gun control laws has been rebuked, including her stance opposing restrictions on parts of the {{w|Second Amendment to the United States Constitution}}, which outlines the right of citizens to bear arms, earning her support by the {{w|National Rifle Association}}. "When I heard Gillibrand was his pick, I thought it was a joke. This is an insult to the families of gun violence victims across the state. Shame on Governor Paterson," stated Gloria Cruz of the {{w|Million Mom March}} which promoted tighter restrictions on the private ownership of firearms. Gillibrand is set to be officially sworn in on Sunday, January 25. {{haveyoursay}} == Related news == *{{Wikinews|title=Caroline Kennedy drops bid for New York Senate seat|date=January 22, 2009}} *{{Wikinews|title=US Senate confirms Clinton as Secretary of State|date=January 22, 2009}} *{{Wikinews|title=Clinton confirmation hearing raises concerns about funding for husband's foundation|date=January 14, 2009}} *{{Wikinews|title=Hillary Clinton nominated as US Secretary of State|date=December 1, 2008}} == Sources == *{{source|url=http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aUKKjXlREq_8&refer=home|title=Gillibrand Appointed by Paterson for U.S. Senate|author=Henry Goldman|pub=Bloomberg L.P.|date=January 23, 2009}} *{{source|url=http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/23/gillibrand.profile/?iref=mpstoryview|title=N.Y. governor names Clinton successor|author=Alan Silverleib|pub=CNN|date=January 23, 2009}} *{{source|url=http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/politics/2009/01/23/hillary-clintons-senate-replacement-draws-fire-from-liberals.html|title=Hillary Clinton's Senate Replacement Draws Fire from Liberals|author=Kenneth Lovett|pub=U.S. News & World Report|date=January 23, 2009}} {{publish}} [[Category:North America]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:New York]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Hillary Clinton]] [[Category:Barack Obama]] [[Category:Democratic Party (United States)]] [[Category:Same-sex marriage]] [[Category:Gun politics]] [[Category:Andrew Cuomo]] [[Category:Kirsten Gillibrand]] [[Category:US Congress]] [[Category:US Senate]] [[Category:US House of Representatives]] [[de:Kirsten Gillibrand zur Nachfolgerin Hillary Clintons als Senatorin ernannt]] {{Archived-cc-2.5}} 4q8qdt08poao82vkorvnx8q1stbgcxv 10 120173 5007570 4234273 2026-04-13T13:10:08Z Metropolitan90 314212 replace DPL with static list 5007570 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=[[:Category:Queensland state election, 2009|Queensland State Election, 2009]]}} [[File:Flag of Queensland.svg|border|center|150px]] {{Infosection|name=2009 Queensland general election| *26 February 2009: [[Australian state of Queensland will go to the polls on March 21]] *14 February 2009: [[Queensland Premier denies March 28 election]] *5 February 2009: [[Queensland state Green party to run environmental lawyer in treasurer's electorate]] *1 February 2009: [[DS4SEQ discusses daylight savings in Queensland with Wikinews]] *30 January 2009: [[Wikinews interviews Daylight Saving for South East Queensland Party about the upcoming Queensland State election]] }} {{InfoboxEnd}} <includeonly> [[Category:Australia]] [[Category:Oceania]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] </includeonly> <noinclude> [[Category:Event infoboxes|2009 Queensland Election]] [[Category:Queensland state election, 2009]] </noinclude> 7pvy0ioyvnxmgikw3ic32giuaq5gk0q 10 121135 5007620 4234269 2026-04-13T14:56:16Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. 5007620 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=2008–09 financial crisis}} </br> [[File:Birmingham Northern Rock bank run 2007.jpg|center|195px]] </br> {{Infosection|name=More articles about the [[:Category:2008-09 financial crisis|2008-09 financial crisis]] on Wikinews:| * [[China prepared to support eurozone countries hit by financial crisis * [[UK interest rates remain at 0.5% * [[US unemployment rate surpasses 10% * [[European Union emerges from recession * [[US unemployment rate down to ten percent]]}} {{InfosectionStart|name=[[w:Late 2000s recession|Read more about the 2008-09 financial crisis on Wikipedia]]|style=margin-top: 10px; background: #CCFFCC;}} {{InfosectionEnd}} {{InfoboxEnd}} <noinclude> [[Category:Event infoboxes|{{PAGENAME}}]] </noinclude> ikbb1aqd0jc6d8s6aeg1358ol1ccate 10 122883 5007690 4578033 2026-04-13T16:39:44Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. 5007690 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=Pennsylvania}} [[Image:Pennsylvania in United States.svg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=Related articles| * [[Boy retrieves Nintendo Switch locked away in gun safe, and shoots his father]] * [[Several people hospitalized after thousands of hotdogs spill following collision on interstate in Pennsylvania]] * [[US prosecutors pursue death penalty for Luigi Mangione, suspect in 2024 killing of healthcare CEO]] * [[Luigi Mangione, suspect in killing of US healthcare CEO, charged with terrorism]] * [[Gunman enters Pennsylvania hospital ICU, kills officer before police fatally shoot him]]}} {{Infosection|name=Read more|[[File:Flag of Pennsylvania.svg|90px|center|link=Category:Pennsylvania]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude> An infobox for {{PAGENAME}} and its news. 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[[File:Hiram Monserrate 2009 cropped.jpg|thumb|left|[[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]] in 2009 {{Image source|[http://www.flickr.com/photos/23472949@N07/ Matt Ryan]}}]] During opening arguments in the case, prosecutor Scott Kessler stated that when Monserrate discovered that his girlfriend had the business card of another man, he chose to strike out at her. According to prosecutor Kessler, Monserrate "struck her in a jealous rage". Monserrate has entered a plea of not guilty to charges he sliced his girlfriend's face with broken glass during a conflict at their apartment in December 2008. {{QuoteRight|"He struck her in a jealous rage."|4=Prosecutor Scott Kessler}} According to the account given in court by prosecutors, Giraldo asked her boyfriend Monserrate for a glass of water. Prosecutors said that in response, Monserrate stated "You want the water? You want the water? Here’s your water!" &ndash; and proceeded to cut her face using the glass. At the hospital, Giraldo reportedly told healthcare workers: "I can’t believe he did this to me. My face! My face!". {{QuoteLeft|"What happened was an accident."|4=Monserrate's lawyer, Joseph Tacopina}} The defense team denied that the injury to the woman by Monserrate was intentional, instead claiming that the incident was "an accident". Monserrate's lawyer, Joseph Tacopina, said "What happened was an accident. There were only two people behind those closed doors and they both say it was an accident. You wonder why they even brought this case. It's nothing more than rank speculation." In Tacopina's account of the incident, Monserrate was bringing his girlfriend a glass of water and tripped &ndash; and Giraldo woke up and the glass collided into her face. Tacopina characterized her injuries as "a freak accident". Kessler asserted that the incident was not an accident on the part of Monserrate. Referring to Monserrate's emotions at the time of the incident, Kessler said "This case is about power and control. He didn't just want that card thrown out, he wanted it destroyed." According to prosecutors in the case, Giraldo originally stated to law enforcement officials that she had been attacked, and said to a nurse at the hospital where she was treated that her boyfriend had cut her face. The injuries to Giraldo's face necessitated 20 stitches in the area surrounding her left eye. After Giraldo found out that Monserrate would be arrested in the matter, she recanted her statements. Supreme Court Justice William Erlbaum will judge the case without a jury, as Monserrate waived his right for a trial before his peers. If convicted, [[w:Democratic Party (United States)|Democrat]] Sen. Monserrate could serve prison time and lose his [[w:New York State Senate|New York State Senate]] seat. {{QuoteRight|"Send a message that violence against women must be stopped and perpetrators must be brought to justice."|4=[[w:National Organization for Women|National Organization for Women]]}} The group [[w:National Organization for Women|National Organization for Women]] has requested that the judge rule Monserrate should be given "the maximum sentence allowable by law". In an email to supporters, the organization said: "Call or write the Honorable William M. Erlbaum. Send a message that violence against women must be stopped and perpetrators must be brought to justice." Included was a form letter with the message: "I implore you to do the right thing by punishing Senator Monserrate, giving him the maximum sentence allowable by law. By doing so, you will be sending a very important message and that is that violence against women is a serious crime." In response to complaints from Monserrate's attorney that the group's actions were inappropriate, the president of the organization in New York [[w:Marcia Pappas|Marcia Pappas]] said "We’re imploring him to do the right thing. I’m sure the judge knows what he needs to do, so his position is not compromised." Monserrate is a former city councilman. He became a member of the New York State Senate weeks after the conflict with Giraldo, and was made chair of the committee overseeing consumer affairs. Along with Democrat [[w:Pedro Espada Jr.|Pedro Espada Jr.]], Monserrate started a shift in control of the Senate by aligning with the [[w:Republican Party (United States)|Republican Party]]. {{update|Emergency doctor testifies in NY State Sen. Hiram Monserrate felony assault case}} {{HYS}} == Sources == {{Wikipediapars|[[w:Assault|Assault]] and [[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]]}} *{{source|url=http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local-beat/Sen-Hiram-Monserrate-Gets-His-Day-in-Court-59982637.html|title=Monserrate Case about "Power and Control:" Prosecutors|author=Tim Mitten and Hasani Gittens|pub=WNBC|date=September 21, 2009}} *{{source|url=http://www.newsday.com/long-island/lawyer-sen-hiram-monserrate-sliced-girlfriend-s-face-1.1465649|title=Lawyer: Sen. Hiram Monserrate sliced girlfriend's face|author=[[w:Associated Press|Associated Press]]|pub=Newsday|date=September 21, 2009}} *{{source|url=http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/18/monserrate-judge/?hp|title=Women’s Group Presses Judge in Monserrate Trial|author=Ralph Blumenthal|pub=The New York Times|date=September 18, 2009}} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:North America]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:New York]] [[Category:New York, New York]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Hiram Monserrate]] [[Category:Democratic Party (United States)]] [[Category:Republican Party (United States)]] [[Category:Crime and law]] jrluz01jxszq7rv02vsmlb7q9ej3yzo 0 139711 5007961 4822037 2026-04-14T11:08:34Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007961 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|September 22, 2009}} {{Pakistan}} Police in northwestern [[Pakistan]] said that suspected [[Pakistani Taliban|Taliban]] militants have blown up a primary school that [[education|educated]] [[women|girls]] on Tuesday. [[File:PakistanNorthWestFrontier.png|thumb|left|Northwest [[Pakistan]] {{Image source|[[w:User:Morwen|Morwen]]}}]] Officials say there were no casualties in the blast, which occurred on the outskirts the city of [[Peshawar]], because the school was closed for the [[Eid al-Fitr]] holiday marking the end of the [[Islam|Muslim]] holy month of [[Ramadan]]. "The school building, which consisted of three rooms was destroyed in the blast," said Hamdullah Khan, a local police official. He said that the explosion was likely caused by a timed explosive device. [[Al-Qaeda]] and Taliban-linked militants who oppose the education of women have destroyed hundreds of girls' schools across the country. Almost 200 schools were destroyed in the {{w|Swat valley}} after a two-year campaign to enforce [[sharia]] law was made by {{w|Maulana Fazaullah}}, a radical [[Islam]] cleric. {{QuoteLeft|"The school building, which consisted of three rooms was destroyed in the blast."|4=Hamdullah Khan, police official}}On Monday, police killed a suicide bomber trying to assassinate a regional education minister in the country's northwestern regions. In other violence, Pakistani security forces say they have arrested eleven suspected militants, including three [[Afghanistan|Afghanis]], during security operations in {{w|Malakand District|Malakand}} and Swat districts. In a statement released Tuesday, officials say they also found four inter-linked tunnels and bomb-proof bunkers during a separate search operation near Swat's Biakand area. {{haveyoursay}} {{clear}} == Sources == {{VOA |url = http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-09-22-voa39.cfm |title = Militants Blow Up School in Northwest Pakistan }} *{{source |url = http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-09-22-voa39.cfm |title = Militants Blow Up School in Northwest Pakistan |author = |pub = VOA News |date = September 22, 2009 }} *{{source |url = http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-09-22-pakistan-violence_N.htm?csp=34 |title = Girls school attacked in Pakistan |author = |pub = USA Today |date = September 22, 2009 }} *{{source |url = http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Politics/22-Sep-2009/Militants-bomb-primary-school-in-Peshawar-officials |title = Militants bomb primary school in Peshawar: officials |author = |pub = The Nation |date = September 22, 2009 |brokenURL = true |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20090924182235/http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Politics/22-Sep-2009/Militants-bomb-primary-school-in-Peshawar-officials |archivedescription = Archived from the original on September 24, 2000 via the Internet Archive }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:Khyber Pakhtunkhwa]] [[Category:Peshawar]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Al-Qaeda]] [[Category:Pakistani Taliban]] [[Category:Shari'a]] [[Category:Ramadan]] [[Category:Eid al-Fitr]] [[Category:Pakistan]] [[Category:Islam]] [[Category:Education]] [[Category:Women's rights]] 89jdgl18lldamn8fggcnm2nzcudvb9b 0 139961 5007945 4817198 2026-04-14T11:08:28Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007945 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|September 26, 2009}} {{Crime and law}}An emergency room doctor testified this week in the ongoing criminal trial against [[New York|New York State]] Senator [[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]]. Monserrate faces charges of [[w:felony|felony]] [[w:assault|assault]] in an alleged attack on his girlfriend Karla Giraldo. [[File:Hiram Monserrate 2009 cropped.jpg|thumb|left|[[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]] in 2009 {{Image source|[http://www.flickr.com/photos/23472949@N07/ Matt Ryan]}}]] The prosecution has asserted that when Monserrate discovered that his girlfriend had the business card of another man, he chose to strike out at her. Monserrate has entered a plea of not guilty to charges he sliced his girlfriend's face with broken glass during a conflict at their apartment in December 2008. The defense team denied that the injury to the woman by Monserrate was intentional, instead claiming that the incident was "an accident" and the result of Monserrate tripping while bringing Giraldo a glass of water. {{QuoteRight|It appeared to be a stab wound.|4=Dr. Dawne Kort, attending physician, [[w:Long Island Jewish Hospital|Long Island Jewish Hospital]] emergency department}} Dawne Kort, attending physician at the emergency department of [[w:Long Island Jewish Hospital|Long Island Jewish Hospital]], testified that Giraldo repeatedly told her she had been in a fight with Monserrate, and that he intentionally injured her with a piece of broken glass. Dr. Kort brought the situation to the attention of the police because she believed Monserrate had stabbed Giraldo &ndash; Dr. Kort also was aware that Monserrate was in the waiting room and she had concerns about Giraldo's safety. Dr. Kort testified that Giraldo told her Monserrate had exclaimed: "You want the water? You want the water? Here's the water!", and then proceeded to smash a glass into Giraldo's face. Dr. Kort testified that Monserrate's girlfriend told her Giraldo and Monseratte "were fighting and she asked for a glass of water and he shoved it in her face." Dr. Kort said that Giraldo cried: "I can't believe he did this to me. My face! My face! I can't believe my face," on the night of December 19, 2008, while being treated in the hospital. According to Dr. Kort, another emergency physician said Monserrate had asserted the incident was an accident. When queried about how Giraldo responded to this assertion, Kort testified: "She said many times it was not an accident. They were fighting and he took a piece of glass and cut her face." Giraldo had lacerations surrounding the area of her left eye which required stitches. Dr. Kort also testified as to the nature of the injuries: "It appeared to be a stab wound. It's hospital policy that all stab wounds get reported to the police." {{QuoteLeft|I think [the doctor] is officially impeached, but I’m not the fact finder that’s up to the judge.|4=Joseph Tacopina, defense attorney for [[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]]}} The testimony of Dr. Kort is in contradiction to a sworn statement given after the incident by Giraldo, as well as by arguments from defense counsel. Monserrate's lawyer Joseph Tacopina challenged Dr. Kort on cross examination, arguing that his client's girlfriend's statements to the doctor were inconsistent. Tacopina queried Dr. Kort on specifically when she wrote down notes about Giraldo's statements; Dr. Kort admitted she waited 18 days before writing down her memories of the event. When challenged by Tacopina on her ability to recall the event, Dr. Kort responded: "This was memorable." Tacopina later commented outside the court to journalists about Dr. Kort's testimony: "I think [the doctor] is officially impeached, but I’m not the fact finder that’s up to the judge. Clearly, she said things very differently in the grand jury than she did on December 19, 2008 the date of the accident." Chief resident at Long Island Jewish, Dr. Daniel Frogel, submitted a statement which was read in court. Dr. Frogel wrote down his memories of the event on January 2. His statement said that he recalls Giraldo told him "it was not an accident". Supreme Court Justice William Erlbaum will judge the case without a jury, as Monserrate waived his right for a trial before his peers. Monseratte's defense counsel attempted to suppress Dr. Kort's testimony in pretrial hearings. However, Justice Erlbaum ruled to allow the doctor's statement. The group [[w:National Organization for Women|National Organization for Women]] has requested that the judge rule Monserrate should be given "the maximum sentence allowable by law". If convicted, [[w:Democratic Party (United States)|Democrat]] Sen. Monserrate could serve prison time and lose his [[w:New York State Senate|New York State Senate]] seat. Monserrate is a former city councilman. He became a member of the New York State Senate weeks after the conflict with Giraldo, and was made chair of the committee overseeing consumer affairs. Along with Democrat [[w:Pedro Espada Jr.|Pedro Espada Jr.]], Monserrate started a shift in control of the Senate by aligning with the [[w:Republican Party (United States)|Republican Party]]. {{HYS}} ==Related news== *{{wikinews|title=Prosecutors begin NY State Sen. Hiram Monserrate felony assault case|date=September 22, 2009}} == Sources == {{Wikipediapars|[[w:Assault|Assault]] and [[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]]}} *{{source|url=http://www.wnyc.org/news/articles/141418|title=Doctor Who Treated Giraldo Testifes at Monserrate Trial|author=Arun Venugopal|pub=WNYC|date=September 25, 2009}} *{{source|url=http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/hiram_slashed_my_face_ZmL2pCfjPscIHDTnZbFP4H|title=Hiram slashed my face! - Doc recalls gal pal's cry|author=William J. Gorta, Andy Geller|pub=New York Post|date=September 25, 2009}} *{{source|url=http://www.queenscourier.com/articles/2009/09/25/news/top_stories/doc4abba24e77478438858880.txt|title=UPDATE MONSERRATE TRIAL DAY 4: Doc says victim told her Monserrate shoved glass in her face|author=Claudia Cruz|pub=Queens Courier|date=September 25, 2009}} {{Publish}} [[Category:North America]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:New York]] [[Category:New York, New York]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Hiram Monserrate]] [[Category:Crime and law]] {{Archived-cc-2.5}} kf4w5cro284ythd31qfp2gu0v9t1yqm 0 140334 5007969 4824216 2026-04-14T11:08:37Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007969 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|October 1, 2009}} {{Crime and law}}A crime scene police detective and a forensic biologist testified on Tuesday about bloody evidence entered into the court record, in the ongoing criminal trial against [[New York|New York State]] Senator [[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]]. Monserrate faces charges of [[w:felony|felony]] [[w:assault|assault]] in an alleged attack on his girlfriend Karla Giraldo. [[File:Hiram Monserrate 2009 cropped.jpg|thumb|left|[[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]] in 2009 {{Image source|[http://www.flickr.com/photos/23472949@N07/ Matt Ryan]}}]]The prosecution has asserted that when Monserrate discovered that his girlfriend had the business card of another man, he chose to strike out at her. Monserrate has entered a plea of not guilty to charges he sliced his girlfriend's face with broken glass during a conflict at their apartment on December 19, 2008. The defense team denied that the injury to the woman by Monserrate was intentional, instead claiming that the incident was "an accident" and the result of Monserrate tripping while bringing Giraldo a glass of water. An emergency physician that had treated Giraldo stated in court last Thursday that Monserrate's girlfriend asserted to her that her injuries were not the result of an accident. Though the defense has argued that Giraldo, who is from [[Ecuador]], may have been difficult to understand &ndash; the physician stated she conversed with Monserrate's girlfriend in both Spanish and in English. {{QuoteRight|...it is nothing more than rank speculation.|4=Joseph Tacopina, defense counsel for [[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]]}} The police detective that first inspected the crime scene testified Tuesday to the court about his recollection of discovering broken glass at the apartment, along with blood, towels covered in blood, and a ripped women's t-shirt. Prosecutors entered into evidence a ripped sleeveless undershirt that police had found in the garbage outside Monserrate's apartment on the night of the alleged attack. Bloody towels were was also found at the crime scene in the bathroom, and bloody smudges were discovered on a light switch in the bedroom. According to forensic biologist Ewilina Badja, the majority of the blood found at the scene originated from one woman. Prosecutors assert that this woman is Giraldo, who was treated for injuries surrounding her left eye that took approximately 40 stitches to remedy. Badja identified blood on a male green shirt found in the bathroom sink as that of Monserrate. Joseph Tacopina, defense counsel for Monserrate, argued that the police detective's testimony does not prove his client attacked Giraldo. ''[[w:NY1|NY1]]'' reported that Tacopina stated: "There's not a piece of evidence that supports there was a scuffle where someone tore someone's clothing, so it is nothing more than rank speculation. It was not a blood drenched t-shirt. When it was torn who knows? I have in my closet right now torn T-shirts that I wear to bed every night." On cross-examination, Tacopina queried [[w:New York City Police Department|New York City Police Department]] crime scene analyst Detective David Hernandez regarding the blood discovered on the bedroom light switch. According to Hernandez, police did not evaluate the blood on the light switch; Hernandez also stated that the lights in the apartment were found turned on. Tacopina argued that this bolsters the story provided by defense &ndash; that his client stumbled in a dark room while attempted to bring water to his girlfriend, and placed his bloody hand on the light switch after accidentally breaking the drinking glass on Giraldo's face. [[w:Queens|Queens]] Supreme Court Justice William Erlbaum will judge the case without a jury, as Monserrate waived his right for a trial before his peers. The group [[w:National Organization for Women|National Organization for Women]] has requested that the judge rule Monserrate should be given "the maximum sentence allowable by law". If convicted, [[w:Democratic Party (United States)|Democrat]] Sen. Monserrate could serve seven years in prison and lose his [[w:New York Senate|New York State Senate]] seat. Monserrate is a former city councilman. He became a member of the New York State Senate weeks after the alleged conflict with Giraldo, and was made chair of the committee overseeing consumer affairs. Along with Democrat [[w:Pedro Espada Jr.|Pedro Espada Jr.]], Monserrate started a shift in control of the Senate by aligning with the [[w:Republican Party (United States)|Republican Party]]. {{HYS}} ==Related news== *{{wikinews|title=Emergency doctor testifies in NY State Sen. Hiram Monserrate felony assault case|date=September 26, 2009}} *{{wikinews|title=Prosecutors begin NY State Sen. Hiram Monserrate felony assault case|date=September 22, 2009}} == Sources == {{Wikipediapars|[[w:Assault|Assault]] and [[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]]}} *{{source|url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/09/30/2009-09-30_prosecutors_pile_on_bloody_evidence_at_hiram_trial.html|title=Prosecutors pile on bloody evidence at Hiram Monserrate's trial|author=Thomas Zambito|pub=New York Daily News|date=September 30, 2009}} *{{source|url=http://www.ny1.com/Content/Top_Stories/106506/monserrate-assault-trial-resumes/Default.aspx|title=Crime Scene Detective: Blood, Glass All Over Monserrate's Apartment|author=|pub=NY1|date=September 29, 2009}} {{Publish}} [[Category:North America]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:New York]] [[Category:New York, New York]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Hiram Monserrate]] [[Category:Democratic Party (United States)]] [[Category:Republican Party (United States)]] {{Archived-cc-2.5}} glg0nq86a5cj1boue7e4oqq5dehr2ix 0 141439 5007964 4822534 2026-04-14T11:08:35Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007964 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|October 16, 2009}} {{Crime and law}}[[New York|New York State]] Senator [[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]] was found guilty of [[w:misdemeanor|misdemeanor]] [[w:assault|assault]] Thursday, in the criminal trial involving an alleged attack on his girlfriend Karla Giraldo. Monserrate will face sentencing on the misdemeanor assault conviction on December 4. [[File:Hiram Monserrate 2009 cropped.jpg|thumb|left|[[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]] in 2009 {{Image source|[http://www.flickr.com/photos/23472949@N07/ Matt Ryan]}}]] Monserrate had also faced charges of [[w:felony|felony]] assault, but he was not convicted of these charges. The misdemeanor assault conviction means Monserrate is guilty of "recklessly causing physical injury" to Giraldo. Monserrate could be sentenced to one year in jail for the misdemeanor assault conviction. The prosecution had asserted that when Monserrate discovered that his girlfriend had the business card of another man, he chose to strike out at her. Monserrate entered a plea of not guilty to charges he sliced his girlfriend's face with broken glass during a conflict at their apartment on December 19, 2008. The defense team denied that the injury to the woman by Monserrate was intentional, instead claiming that the incident was "an accident" and the result of Monserrate tripping while bringing Giraldo a glass of water. A police detective that first investigated the crime scene testified about the bloody evidence discovered at Monserrate's apartment, including broken glass, blood, towels covered in blood, and a ripped women's t-shirt. Forensic biologist Ewilina Badja said that the majority of the blood found at the crime scene had originated from one woman. Prosecutors asserted that this woman is Giraldo, who was treated for injuries surrounding her left eye that took approximately 40 stitches to remedy. Badja identified blood on a male green shirt found in the bathroom sink as that of Monserrate. An emergency physician that had treated Giraldo stated in court that Monserrate's girlfriend asserted to her that her injuries were not the result of an accident. Though the defense has argued that Giraldo, who is from [[Ecuador]], may have been difficult to understand &ndash; the physician stated she conversed with Monserrate's girlfriend in both Spanish and in English. {{QuoteRight|Whether or not the public is going to stand for somebody who has been convicted of a criminal act...|4=Patricia Salkin, [[w:Albany Law School|Albany Law School]]}} [[w:Queens|Queens]] Supreme Court Justice William Erlbaum judged the case without a jury, as Monserrate waived his right for a trial before his peers. The group [[w:National Organization for Women|National Organization for Women]] had requested that the judge rule Monserrate should be given "the maximum sentence allowable by law". If he had been convicted of a felony, [[w:Democratic Party (United States)|Democrat]] Sen. Monserrate could have automatically lost his [[w:New York Senate|New York State Senate]] seat. Monserrate did not testify during the criminal trial against him. {{QuoteLeft|There are no winners here today.|4=[[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]]}} [[w:WXXI|WXXI]] reported that Patricia Salkin of the Government Law Center at [[w:Albany Law School|Albany Law School]], said state Senators may be faced with political issues if they do not do something about Monserrate's continued presence as a Senator. Salkin stated that the issue was: "Whether or not the public is going to stand for somebody who has been convicted of a criminal act, and act of domestic violence in this case, to be allowed to continue." According to WXXI, Senate rules do not state that a misdemeanor conviction means a politician must be removed from office, it is within the power of the New York Senate to initiate procedures to oust a sitting Senator. WXXI reported that leaders within the Democratic party in the New York Senate were debating whether to being proceedings to remove Monserrate from his seat. [[w:WNYC|WNYC]] reported that the Senators are deciding whether or not to initiate disciplinary proceedings against Monserrate. {{QuoteRight|There is no room in government or in the Democratic Party for people who commit such heinous crimes against women. Hiram Monserrate must be swiftly removed from office.|4=Democratic [[w:New York City Council|New York City Council]] member [[w:Eric Gioia|Eric Gioia]]}} The ''[[w:New York Daily News|New York Daily News]]'' reported that Monserrate gave a statement outside the courthouse after the ruling, and continued to describe the injury to Giraldo's face as a "terrible accident". He referred to Giraldo as ""a person who I love". Monserrate stated that: "I have to live with that forever. There are no winners here today." Monserrate's attorney, Joseph Tacopina, believed that his client would not serve any jail time. "On a reckless misdemeanor, first offense, he won't go to jail," said Tacopina. [[w:New York City Council|New York City Council]] member [[w:Eric Gioia|Eric Gioia]] was the first Democratic politician to publicly request that Monserrate resign from his post as a member of the New York State Senate. Gioia released a statement which said: "There is no room in government or in the Democratic Party for people who commit such heinous crimes against women. Hiram Monserrate must be swiftly removed from office. Elected officials should rightfully be held to a higher standard, and New Yorkers deserve better representation than a convicted perpetrator of domestic violence." Gioia stated that "the circumstances revealed in the trial ... truly shock the conscience." Monserrate is a former [[w:NYPD|New York City police officer]]. Prior to becoming a member of the New York State Senate, he was a city councilman. He became a member of the New York State Senate weeks after the alleged conflict with Giraldo, and was made chair of the committee overseeing consumer affairs. Along with Democrat [[w:Pedro Espada Jr.|Pedro Espada Jr.]], Monserrate started a shift in control of the Senate by aligning with the [[w:Republican Party (United States)|Republican Party]]. Monserrate is currently allied with the Democrats in the New York Senate, and if he is removed from his seat the ratio of Democrats to Republicans would be 31-30. {{HYS}} ==Related news== *{{wikinews|title=Police describe bloody evidence in NY Sen. Monserrate assault trial|date=October 1, 2009}} *{{wikinews|title=Emergency doctor testifies in NY State Sen. Hiram Monserrate felony assault case|date=September 26, 2009}} *{{wikinews|title=Prosecutors begin NY State Sen. Hiram Monserrate felony assault case|date=September 22, 2009}} == Sources == {{Wikipediapars|[[w:Assault|Assault]] and [[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]]}} *{{source|url=http://www.bronx.com/news/crime/583.html|title=Sen. Monserrate Must Be Removed|author=Peter Milosheff|pub=The Bronx Times|date=October 15, 2009}} *{{source|url=http://www.wnyc.org/news/articles/142694|title=Monserrate Convicted of Misdemeanor Assault|author=|pub=WNYC|date=October 15, 2009}} *{{source|url=http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wxxi/news.newsmain/article/1/0/1566587/WXXI.Local.Stories/Monseratte.Convicted.of.Misdemeanor|title=Monseratte Convicted of Misdemeanor|author=Karen DeWitt|pub=WXXI|date=October 15, 2009}} *{{source|url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/10/15/2009-10-15_hiram_monserrate_will_keep_seat.html|title=State Sen. Hiram Monserrate convicted of misdemeanor assault, not guilty of felonies, may keep seat|author=Thomas Zambito and Corky Siemaszko| pub=New York Daily News|date=October 15, 2009}} *{{source|url=http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/828863.html|title=Monserrate found guilty of lesser charge|author=Tom Precious|pub=The Buffalo News|date=October 15, 2009}} *{{source|url=http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20091015/FREE/910159988|title=Monserrate acquitted of felony charges|author=[[w:Associated Press|Associated Press]]|pub=Crain's New York Business|date=October 15, 2009}} {{Publish}} [[Category:North America]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:New York]] [[Category:New York, New York]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Hiram Monserrate]] [[Category:Democratic Party (United States)]] [[Category:Republican Party (United States)]] {{Archived-cc-2.5}} 71dm8awaif8jcwoxcd4qhseek024dr6 0 141523 5007972 4824301 2026-04-14T11:08:38Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007972 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|October 17, 2009}} {{Crime and law}}[[New York|New York State]] Senator [[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]] faced public calls for his resignation after he was found guilty Thursday of [[w:misdemeanor|misdemeanor]] [[w:assault|assault]], in the criminal trial involving an alleged attack on his girlfriend Karla Giraldo. Monserrate will face sentencing on the misdemeanor assault conviction on December 4. [[File:Hiram Monserrate 2009 cropped.jpg|thumb|left|[[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]] in 2009 {{Image source|[http://www.flickr.com/photos/23472949@N07/ Matt Ryan]}}]]The misdemeanor assault conviction means Monserrate is guilty of "recklessly causing physical injury" to Giraldo. Monserrate could be sentenced to one year in jail for the misdemeanor assault conviction. The prosecution had asserted that when Monserrate discovered that his girlfriend had the business card of another man, he chose to strike out at her. Monserrate entered a plea of not guilty to charges he sliced his girlfriend's face with broken glass during a conflict at their apartment on December 19, 2008. The defense team denied that the injury to the woman by Monserrate was intentional, instead claiming that the incident was "an accident" and the result of Monserrate tripping while bringing Giraldo a glass of water. {{QuoteRight|They need to expel him. The Democratic leadership needs to send a strong message to the women of New York state that they care about protecting women.|4=[[w:National Organization for Women|National Organization for Women]]}} [[w:Queens|Queens]] Supreme Court Justice William Erlbaum judged the case without a jury, as Monserrate waived his right for a trial before his peers. The group [[w:National Organization for Women|National Organization for Women]] had requested that the judge rule Monserrate should be given "the maximum sentence allowable by law". If he had been convicted of a felony, [[w:Democratic Party (United States)|Democrat]] Sen. Monserrate could have automatically lost his [[w:New York Senate|New York State Senate]] seat. Monserrate did not testify during the criminal trial against him. The New York chapter of the National Organization for Women criticized the decision of the judge for not convicting Monserrate of the felony charge, and urged the Democratic leadership of the New York Senate to remove Monserrate from office. New York state president of the National Organization for Women, Marcia Pappas stated: "They need to expel him. The Democratic leadership needs to send a strong message to the women of New York state that they care about protecting women." It is within the power of the New York Senate to initiate procedures to oust a sitting Senator. Leaders within the Democratic party in the New York Senate were debating whether to being proceedings to remove Monserrate from his seat. Senators are in the process of deciding whether or not to initiate disciplinary proceedings against Monserrate. [[w:John L. Sampson|John L. Sampson]], Democratic Conference leader in the New York Senate, told the [[w:Associated Press|Associated Press]] on Friday that the Senate will review procedures in order to determine what to do with Monserrate. "The leaders of our conference are discussing the potential for further action by the Senate," said Sampson in a statement in [[w:AM New York|AM New York]]. The legislative director of the [[w:New York Public Interest Research Group|New York Public Interest Research Group]], Blair Horner, told AM New York that it would be "unprecedented in modern times" for a sitting New York State Senator to hold office while serving time in jail. "Obviously he can’t vote from jail," he said. [[w:New York City Council|New York City Council]] member [[w:Eric Gioia|Eric Gioia]] was the first Democratic politician to publicly request that Monserrate resign from his post as a member of the New York State Senate. Gioia released a statement Thursday which said: "There is no room in government or in the Democratic Party for people who commit such heinous crimes against women. Hiram Monserrate must be swiftly removed from office. Elected officials should rightfully be held to a higher standard, and New Yorkers deserve better representation than a convicted perpetrator of domestic violence." Gioia stated that "the circumstances revealed in the trial ... truly shock the conscience." {{QuoteLeft|I believe Hiram Monserrate should not remain in the Senate.|4=[[w:Liz Krueger|Liz Krueger]], Democratic New York State Senator}} On Friday, Democratic New York State Senator [[w:Liz Krueger|Liz Krueger]] of [[w:Manhattan|Manhattan]] joined the call for Monserrate to resign. "The justice system has determined that Mr. Monserrate has violated our laws and is guilty of a very disturbing and violent crime against a woman. Domestic violence is domestic violence, guilt is guilt. I believe Hiram Monserrate should not remain in the Senate," said Senator Krueger. According to [[w:NY1 News|NY1 News]], Senator Krueger was the first woman politician to call for Monserrate's resignation. Senator Krueger stated: "I don't believe being an elected official is a right. It is an honor and a privilege I believe I should be held to higher standards because I am an elected official and I believe my colleagues in the legislature should also be held to a higher standard. And so for me, this is simple: Mr. Monserrate, it's time to resign." {{QuoteRight|Domestic violence has no place in civilized society.|4=[[w:Suzi Oppenheimer|Suzi Oppenheimer]], Democratic New York State Senator}} Senator Krueger was later joined by female New York State Senator, Democrat [[w:Suzi Oppenheimer|Suzi Oppenheimer]]. Senator Oppenheimer released a statement which said: I am strong believer in our judicial system, and the Court has now spoken. Senator Monserrate has been convicted of assaulting his partner. Domestic violence has no place in civilized society. I have spent my life fighting for the rights of abused women, which have been the subject of this trial." {{QuoteLeft|If Sen. Monserrate chooses not to resign, I will use my position as Senator to introduce a measure for his expulsion/impeachment from the Senate.|4=[[w:Brian X. Foley|Brian Foley]], Democratic New York State Senator}} Democratic New York State Senator [[w:Brian X. Foley|Brian Foley]] also called for Monserrate to resign. State Senator Foley released a statement saying: "If Sen. Monserrate chooses not to resign, I will use my position as Senator to introduce a measure for his expulsion/impeachment from the Senate. I will do so, without regard to party affiliation, because of the conduct Sen. Monserrate has exhibited. And I will do so to send a clear message to every individual in New York State: Violence against women will not be acceptable regardless of your position in society. For the sake of the New York State Senate, I sincerely hope Sen. Monserrate will heed my call and resign immediately. The consequence of his refusal to do so will be a forced expulsion from the Senate." {{QuoteRight|I will work with other members of the Senate to seek his removal.|4=[[w:David Valesky|David Valesky]], Democratic New York State Senator}} [[w:David Valesky|David Valesky]], another Democratic New York State Senator, joined the calls by his fellow State Senators Liz Krueger and Brian Foley in calling for Monserrate's resignation. State Senator Valesky said he would "work with other members of the Senate" in order to get Monserrate removed from his political office. ''[[w:The Post-Standard|The Post-Standard]]'' reported that Senator Valesky released a statement saying he was "disgusted" by Monserrate's "deplorable" behavior. Senator Valesky said in his statement: "It is my hope that Mr. Monserrate will do the right thing for this body and for the people of this state and resign his post immediately. If he chooses not to do so, I will work with other members of the Senate to seek his removal. We are currently reviewing the internal options for such removal, and I am confident we will act expeditiously to end this matter." {{QuoteLeft|It is time for us to take the steps necessary to earn back the public's trust. Hiram Monserrate remaining a member of the Senate contradicts this effort.|4=[[w:Neil Breslin|Neil Breslin]], Democratic New York State Senator}} Democratic New York State Senator [[w:Neil Breslin|Neil Breslin]] said that Monserrate remaining in his political office would negatively impact the New York State Senate to earn the trust of the public. "We, the Senate, have been through so much this past year. It is time for us to take the steps necessary to earn back the public's trust. Hiram Monserrate remaining a member of the Senate contradicts this effort," said Senator Breslin. {{QuoteRight|For the good of New York State and the Senate, he should step down.|4=[[w:Darrel Aubertine|Darrel Aubertine]], Democratic New York State Senator}} [[w:Darrel Aubertine|Darrel Aubertine]], a fellow Democratic New York State Senate member, also called for Monserrate's resignation. Senator Aubertine released a statement saying that if Monserrate does not resign, the New York State Senate "must take appropriate action immediately". Senator Aubertine said that "For the good of New York State and the Senate, he should step down." [[w:Brooklyn|Brooklyn]]-based New York State Senator [[w:Martin Golden|Martin Golden]], a Republican, told the ''[[w:New York Daily News|New York Daily News]]'' he agreed with the calls for Monserrate to be removed from office. "As far as I'm concerned, (expletive) him; he should be gone. He should not be sitting in that Senate, and if someone thinks otherwise, I'd like some of the crack they're smoking," said Senator Golden. [[w:Joseph Crowley|Joseph Crowley]], a [[w:United States Congress|United States Congressman]] and chairman of the Democratic party in [[w:Queens|Queens]], New York, said that Monserrate should resign. ''[[w:The New York Times|The New York Times]]'' noted that the lack of support by [[w:United States House of Representatives|Representative]] Crowley was significant, as Crowley had previously helped arrange for Monserrate to attain his political office as State Senator in the first place. {{QuoteRight|I don’t think it’s something our party wants to be associated with.|4=[[w:Joseph Crowley|Joseph Crowley]], [[w:United States House of Representatives|U.S. Congressman]]}} Crowley said that if Monserrate did not resign, he would support another individual to challenge Monserrate in the next year's Democratic primary for his office. "I think there is a tremendous amount of emphasis, and rightly so, that this was domestic violence. I don’t think it’s something our party wants to be associated with, and it’s not representative of the constituency which elected him," said Representative Crowley. {{QuoteLeft|He should not be sitting in that Senate.|4=[[w:Martin Golden|Martin Golden]], Republican New York State Senator}} Democratic [[w:New York State Assembly|New York State Assembly]] member [[w:Patricia Eddington|Patricia Eddington]] said of Monserrate's acquittal on the more serious felony assault charge: "It’s just another example of how abuse of women is condoned and accepted." Assembly member Eddington stated: "I don’t think he should be permitted to be a senator." Monserrate is a former [[w:NYPD|New York City police officer]]. Prior to becoming a member of the New York State Senate, he was a city councilman. He became a member of the New York State Senate weeks after the alleged conflict with Giraldo, and was made chair of the committee overseeing consumer affairs. Along with Democrat [[w:Pedro Espada Jr.|Pedro Espada Jr.]], Monserrate started a shift in control of the Senate by aligning with the [[w:Republican Party (United States)|Republican Party]]. Monserrate is currently allied with the Democrats in the New York Senate, and if he is removed from his seat the ratio of Democrats to Republicans would be 31-30. {{HYS}} ==Related news== *{{wikinews|title=NY Sen. Monserrate found guilty of misdemeanor assault|date=October 16, 2009}} *{{wikinews|title=Police describe bloody evidence in NY Sen. Monserrate assault trial|date=October 1, 2009}} *{{wikinews|title=Emergency doctor testifies in NY State Sen. Hiram Monserrate felony assault case|date=September 26, 2009}} *{{wikinews|title=Prosecutors begin NY State Sen. Hiram Monserrate felony assault case|date=September 22, 2009}} == Sources == {{Wikipediapars|[[w:Assault|Assault]] and [[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]]}} *{{source|url=http://ny1.com/8-queens-news-content/top_stories/107440/state-senators-call-for-monserrate-s-resignation|title=State Senators Call For Monserrate's Resignation|author=|pub=NY1 News|date=October 17, 2009}} *{{source|url=http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=853900|title=Democrats: Monserrate must go |author=Casey Seiler|pub=Albany Times Union|date=October 17, 2009}} *{{source|url=http://www.myabc50.com/news/local/story/Aubertine-calls-on-colleague-to-resign/a5a9rHepf0Wqd8CtZ8nEVw.cspx|title=Aubertine calls on colleague to resign|author=|pub=WWTI|date=October 16, 2009}} *{{source|url=http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2009/10/16/nyc-senator-says-monserrate-should-be-ousted/|title=NYC senator says Monserrate should be ousted (updated)|author=|pub=The Journal News|date=October 16, 2009}} *{{source|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/17/nyregion/17hiram.html|title=After Monserrate's Conviction, Some Colleagues Want Him Expelled From Senate|author=Nicholas Confessore|pub=The New York Times|date=October 16, 2009}} *{{source|url=http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2009/10/sen_david_valesky_calls_for_fe.html|title=Sen. David Valesky calls for fellow Democratic Sen. Hiram Monserrate to resign|author=Delen Goldberg|pub=The Post-Standard|date=October 16, 2009}} *{{source|url=http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2009/10/dem-opposition-to-monserrate-m.html|title=Dem Opposition To Monserrate Mounts; GOP Doesn't Want Him, Either|author=Elizabeth Benjamin|pub=New York Daily News|date=October 16, 2009}} *{{source|url=http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/dem_state_sen_now_urge_monserrate_dWUawnXokBAN2U0eVZkIYM|title=Dem State Sen., NOW urge Monserrate to quit|author=[[w:Associated Press|Associated Press]]|pub=New York Post|date=October 16, 2009}} *{{source|url=http://amny.com/urbanite-1.812039/monserrate-s-acquittal-sparks-anger-pol-dodges-felony-charge-in-abuse-case-1.1526475|title=Monserrate's acquittal sparks anger; Pol dodges felony charge in abuse case|author=Jason Fink|pub=AM New York|date=October 15, 2009}} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:North America]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:New York]] [[Category:New York, New York]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Hiram Monserrate]] [[Category:Democratic Party (United States)]] imupzeqg89b3xoilmav0ixt73ovi95r 10 142154 5007699 4613918 2026-04-13T16:44:55Z Metropolitan90 314212 replace DPL with static list 5007699 wikitext text/x-wiki <table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border: 0px solid black; margin: 0px auto; padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; min-width: 50%;"> <tr><td align="left" valign="top"> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" align="left" valign="top"><tr> <td valign="top">[[File:Top-left-corner.png]]</td> <td valign="top" style="text-align: center; min-width: 100px; background: #7ec9fd; font-weight: bold;">[[w:Bulgaria|Bulgaria]]</td> <td valign="top">[[File:Top-right-corner.png]]</td> </tr></table> </td></tr> <tr><td cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border: 1px solid #7ec9fd;"> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="font-size: x-small;"> <tr><td valign="top" style="text-align: left;"> {{Infosection|name=Location of Bulgaria|[[File:LocationBulgaria.png|196px|A map showing the location of Bulgaria]]}} </td> <td valign="top" style="text-align: left;"> {{Infosection|name=Other Bulgarian stories| *4 May 2023: [[European Commission, five EU members agree to permit members to ban domestic sale of some Ukrainian agricultural products]] *20 February 2023: [[Bulgarian police arrest four over eighteen dead migrants in abandoned truck]] *18 July 2022: [[North Macedonia parliament votes for deal with Bulgaria, clearing way for EU membership talks]] *17 July 2022: [[Shell chief executive warns Europe may have to ration energy]] *29 August 2015: [[Four men go before Hungarian court after 71 found dead in lorry]] }} <small><div style="text-align: right;">...[[:Category:Bulgaria|More articles here]]</div style></small> </td> <td valign="top" style="text-align: left;"> {{Infosection|name=&nbsp;|&nbsp;}} </td> <td valign="top" style="text-align: left;"> {{Infosection|name=&nbsp;|&nbsp;}} </td></tr> <tr><td align="right" valign="top" colspan="4" style="background: #bce1ff;">[[Portal:Bulgaria|To view other Bulgarian articles, see the Bulgarian Portal]] &nbsp; </td></tr> </table> </td></tr> </table> <noinclude> [[Category:Country infoboxes|Bulgaria-h]] [[Category:Bulgaria|*]]</noinclude> <includeonly>{{#if:{{{nocat|}}}||[[Category:Bulgaria]]}}</includeonly> d2fb0nzmokhs7pq2sh4099pqx54vlpv 10 142345 5007691 4584144 2026-04-13T16:40:49Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. 5007691 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=Puerto Rico}} [[Image:Puerto Rico in United States.svg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=Related articles| * [[Hurricane Fiona batters parts of Caribbean]] * [[Seismic activity continues to shake Puerto Rico with 5.2 quake]] * [[Puerto Rico governor announces resignation following protests]] * [[Puerto Rico's governor Rosselló resigns, new governor sworn in]] * [[Puerto Rico Supreme Court removes Governor Pierluisi; Wanda Vázquez becomes governor]]}} {{Infosection|name=Read more|[[File:Flag of Puerto Rico.svg|90px|center|link=Category:Puerto Rico]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude> An infobox for {{PAGENAME}} and its news. 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Monserrate had been found guilty in October of [[w:misdemeanor|misdemeanor]] [[w:assault|assault]], in the criminal trial involving an alleged attack on his girlfriend Karla Giraldo. [[File:Hiram Monserrate 2009 cropped.jpg|thumb|left|[[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]] in 2009 {{Image source|[http://www.flickr.com/photos/23472949@N07/ Matt Ryan]}}]] Monserrate was expelled from the New York State Senate last week by a majority vote of his fellow senators. The result of the vote was 53 to 8 in favor of expulsion. Federal judge [[w:William H. Pauley III|William H. Pauley III]] denied a request to temporarily block the expulsion. A lawsuit had been filed by Monserrate, which had asked for a reversal of the former Senator's explusion and in addition sought a block on a March 16 special election for a replacement. The [[w:New York Civil Liberties Union|New York Civil Liberties Union]] supported Monserrate in the case. The former Senator argued that the act of being expelled from the Senate was not appropriate, as he claimed it violated [[w:due process|due process]]. {{QuoteRight|the power of a body to determine the fitness of its members is embedded in American democracy.|4=Judge [[w:William H. Pauley III|William H. Pauley III]]}} Judge Pauley ruled, "the question of who should represent the 13th Senatorial District is one for the voters, not for this court." The judge explained that the voting rights of the citizens of the district formerly represented by Monserrate would not be significantly negatively impacted, due to the proximity of the upcoming special election. Monserrate has stated that he will run in the special election, and he is not prohibited from doing so. The court's ruling determined that the expulsion by the New York State Senate was not inappropriate, stating, "the power of a body to determine the fitness of its members is embedded in American democracy." Judge Pauley noted, "Similar processes to discipline have long existed in deliberative bodies at all levels of government." {{QuoteLeft|We are gratified that the Court has confirmed our position that the Senate had the authority to expel Mr. Monserrate.|4=[[w:New York State Attorney General|New York State Attorney General]] [[w:Andrew Cuomo|Andrew Cuomo]]}} [[w:New York State Attorney General|New York State Attorney General]] [[w:Andrew Cuomo|Andrew Cuomo]] issued a statement in support of the judge's ruling. "We are gratified that the Court has confirmed our position that the Senate had the authority to expel Mr. Monserrate," said the Attorney General. According to ''[[w:The New York Times|The New York Times]]'', Monserrate was expected to appeal the ruling of the court. Monserrate's misdemeanor assault conviction pertained to an incident where he dragged his girlfriend through the lobby while exiting his apartment building. He was acquitted by a judge of charges of felony assault. Felony conviction would have resulted in an immediate expulsion from the New York State Senate. Monserrate is the first politician to be expelled from the New York State Senate in almost a century. He is a former [[w:NYPD|New York City police officer]]. Prior to becoming a member of the New York State Senate, he was a city councilman. He became a member of the New York State Senate weeks after the alleged conflict with Giraldo, and was made chair of the committee overseeing consumer affairs. Along with Democrat [[w:Pedro Espada Jr.|Pedro Espada Jr.]], Monserrate started a shift in control of the Senate by aligning with the [[w:Republican Party (United States)|Republican Party]]. {{HYS}} ==Related news== *{{wikinews|title=Politicians call for NY Sen. Monserrate to resign after assault conviction|date=October 17, 2009}} *{{wikinews|title=NY Sen. Monserrate found guilty of misdemeanor assault|date=October 16, 2009}} *{{wikinews|title=Police describe bloody evidence in NY Sen. Monserrate assault trial|date=October 1, 2009}} *{{wikinews|title=Emergency doctor testifies in NY State Sen. Hiram Monserrate felony assault case|date=September 26, 2009}} *{{wikinews|title=Prosecutors begin NY State Sen. Hiram Monserrate felony assault case|date=September 22, 2009}} == Sources == {{Wikipediapars|[[w:Assault|Assault]] and [[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]]}} *{{source|url=http://www.wnyc.org/news/articles/150466|title=Judge Rejects Monserrate's Suit to Stay in Senate|author=Matthew Sollars|pub=WNYC|date=February 19, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/19/AR2010021902432.html|title=Judge upholds expulsion of convicted NY senator|author=[[w:Associated Press|Associated Press]]|pub=The Washington Post|date=February 19, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/19/judge-denies-monserrate-bid-to-stay-in-senate/|title=Judge Denies Monserrate’s Bid to Stay in Senate|author=Jeremy Peters|pub=The New York Times|date=February 19, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/Judge-Wont-Block-Monserrate-Expulsion-84782117.html|title=Judge OKs Monserrate Expulsion|author=Larry Neumeister|pub=NBC New York|date=February 19, 2010}} {{Publish}} [[Category:North America]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:New York]] [[Category:New York, New York]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Hiram Monserrate]] [[Category:Democratic Party (United States)]] [[Category:Republican Party (United States)]] [[Category:New York Times]] [[Category:Andrew Cuomo]] {{Archived-cc-2.5}} fjui57acd1cp2icvn8wc8f4j0yjdv5z 0 157859 5007946 4817743 2026-04-14T11:08:28Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007946 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|February 23, 2010}} {{Saudi Arabia}} [[File:Young Saudi Arabian woman in Abha.jpg|thumb|left|A [[Saudi Arabia]]n woman wearing traditional [[ḥijāb]]. {{image credit|[http://www.flickr.com/people/waltercallens/ Walter Callens]}}]] [[Women|Female]] lawyers in [[Saudi Arabia]] may soon be granted limited court access for the first time. {{w|Muhammad bin Abdul Karim Issa|Mohammed al-Issa}}, the justice minister, said that the law was part of [[Abdullah of Saudi Arabia|King Abdullah]]'s ongoing reform to Saudi Arabia's judicial system. The law would allow female lawyers to represent other women at family-related cases, including marriage, divorce, and child custody. Saudi women that are educated in law are currently permitted to work in the female section of government and court offices. Positions of higher authority are reserved for the opposite sex. The {{w|Politics of Saudi Arabia|Saudi government}} is also building specialized "personal status" or family courts where female lawyers will be permitted to practice. [[women's rights|Women rights]] are strictly defined by [[Islam]]ic [[Sharia]] law in Saudi Arabia. Employment and educational opportunities are dependent on a system of male guardianship. For example, a female under the age of 45 must gain the approval of a male before traveling. According to the [[BBC]], the law and other minor changes are steps in the direction of easing restrictions placed on Saudi women. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source |url = http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/02/201022117114465818.html |title = Saudi to grant women court access |pub = Al Jazeera |date = February 21, 2010 }} *{{source |url = http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8526862.stm |title = Saudi women to be allowed to argue cases in court |pub = BBC News Online |date = February 21, 2010 }} *{{source |url = http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/7285925/Saudi-Arabia-to-allow-female-lawyers-in-court.html |title = Saudi Arabia to allow female lawyers in court |pub = The Daily Telegraph |date = February 21, 2010 }} [[Category:Blurpeace (WWC2010)]] [[Category:Writing contest 2010]] [[Category:Saudi Arabia]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Middle East]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Islam]] [[Category:Abdullah of Saudi Arabia]] [[Category:Shari'a]] {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} 0m9zbx9gbopntuv5oqkeklgqfmqfr92 0 163266 5007988 4828942 2026-04-14T11:08:44Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007988 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|March 13, 2010}} {{Crime and law}}A [[w:United States courts of appeals|United States appeals court]] ruling upheld the expulsion of former [[New York|New York State]] Senator [[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]] from the [[w:New York State Senate|New York State Senate]] in a ruling on Friday. Monserrate had been found guilty in October of [[w:misdemeanor|misdemeanor]] [[w:assault|assault]], in the criminal trial involving an alleged attack on his girlfriend Karla Giraldo. A [[w:United States District court|U.S. federal judge]] had previously upheld the expulsion, in a ruling issued in February. [[File:Hiram Monserrate 2009 cropped.jpg|thumb|left|[[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]] in 2009 {{Image source|[http://www.flickr.com/photos/23472949@N07/ Matt Ryan]}}]] Monserrate was expelled from the New York State Senate on February 9 by a majority vote of his fellow senators. The result of the vote was 53 to 8 in favor of expulsion. In the lower U.S. District court decision, federal judge [[w:William H. Pauley III|William H. Pauley III]] denied a request to temporarily block the expulsion. A lawsuit had been filed by Monserrate, which had asked for a reversal of the former Senator's explusion and in addition sought a block on a March 16 special election for a replacement. The [[w:New York Civil Liberties Union|New York Civil Liberties Union]] supported Monserrate in the case. The former Senator argued that the act of being expelled from the Senate was not appropriate, as he claimed it violated [[w:due process|due process]]. Judge Pauley ruled, "the question of who should represent the 13th Senatorial District is one for the voters, not for this court." The judge explained that the voting rights of the citizens of the district formerly represented by Monserrate would not be significantly negatively impacted, due to the proximity of the upcoming special election &ndash; scheduled for March 16. Monserrate has stated that he will run in the special election, and he is not prohibited from doing so. Monserrate's opponents in the March 16 special election include [[w:Jose Peralta|Jose Peralta]], a sitting member of the [[w:New York State Assembly|New York State Assembly]] and a Democrat, and Republican Robert Beltrani. According to [[w:WNYC|WNYC]], Monserrate has himself not received any official endorsements. Monserrate is running under a party name that he created, titled, "Yes We Can". The district court's ruling determined that the expulsion by the New York State Senate was not inappropriate, stating, "the power of a body to determine the fitness of its members is embedded in American democracy." Judge Pauley noted, "Similar processes to discipline have long existed in deliberative bodies at all levels of government." [[w:New York State Attorney General|New York State Attorney General]] [[w:Andrew Cuomo|Andrew Cuomo]] issued a statement February, in support of the ruling of the lower court. "We are gratified that the Court has confirmed our position that the Senate had the authority to expel Mr. Monserrate," said the Attorney General. {{QuoteRight|They imposed a different standard on me without due process and I'm confident the court will rectify the violation.|4=[[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]]}} Prior to the ruling by the [[w:United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit|United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit]] rejecting Monserrate's appeal, the former Senator voiced optimism about the impending decision, "They imposed a different standard on me without due process and I'm confident the court will rectify the violation." {{QuoteLeft|We're naturally disappointed.|4=Norman Siegel, attorney for Hiram Monserrate}} In a statement given to the ''[[w:New York Daily News|New York Daily News]]'', Monserrate's attorney Norman Siegel said, "We're naturally disappointed. We'll have more to say when we read the opinion." The hearing on Friday before the U.S. Federal appeals court lasted approximately one hour. During the hearing, one of the appellate court judges commented that Monserrate was aware that what he had done was, "a crime, (and) you’re not supposed to do it." Monserrate's misdemeanor assault conviction pertained to an incident where he dragged his girlfriend through the lobby while exiting his apartment building. He was acquitted by a judge of charges of felony assault. Felony conviction would have resulted in an immediate expulsion from the New York State Senate. Monserrate is the first politician to be expelled from the New York State Senate in almost a century. He is a former [[w:NYPD|New York City police officer]]. Prior to becoming a member of the New York State Senate, he was a city councilman. He became a member of the New York State Senate weeks after the alleged conflict with Giraldo, and was made chair of the committee overseeing consumer affairs. Along with Democrat [[w:Pedro Espada Jr.|Pedro Espada Jr.]], Monserrate started a shift in control of the Senate by aligning with the [[w:Republican Party (United States)|Republican Party]]. {{HYS}} ==Related news== *{{wikinews|title=Court ruling upholds expulsion of New York Senator convicted of assault|date=February 19, 2010}} *{{wikinews|title=Politicians call for NY Sen. Monserrate to resign after assault conviction|date=October 17, 2009}} *{{wikinews|title=NY Sen. Monserrate found guilty of misdemeanor assault|date=October 16, 2009}} *{{wikinews|title=Police describe bloody evidence in NY Sen. Monserrate assault trial|date=October 1, 2009}} *{{wikinews|title=Emergency doctor testifies in NY State Sen. Hiram Monserrate felony assault case|date=September 26, 2009}} *{{wikinews|title=Prosecutors begin NY State Sen. Hiram Monserrate felony assault case|date=September 22, 2009}} == Sources == {{Wikipediapars|[[w:Assault|Assault]] and [[w:Hiram Monserrate|Hiram Monserrate]]}} *{{source|url=http://www.wnyc.org/news/articles/151703|title=Monserrate's Request to Reverse Expulsion is Rejected|author=Ailsa Chang|pub=WNYC|date=March 12, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2010/03/monserrate-expects-a-win-in-co.html|title=Monserrate Expects A Win In Court UPDATE: Denied!|author=Adam Lisberg|pub=New York Daily News|date=March 12, 2010}} ==External links== *{{cite web | title=Monserrate, et al v. New York State Senate et al | url=http://www.scribd.com/doc/28283018/MonserrateDecision | date=March 13, 2010}} (text of decision denying the appeal) {{Publish}} [[Category:North America]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:New York]] [[Category:New York, New York]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Hiram Monserrate]] [[Category:Democratic Party (United States)]] [[Category:Republican Party (United States)]] [[Category:Andrew Cuomo]] {{Archived-cc-2.5}} phoxb2lwubeggjg3qyeh0q7bltoaij2 10 174298 5007553 4742743 2026-04-13T12:53:12Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]] 5007553 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=[[2012 United States presidential election|2012 United States Presidential Election]]}} [[File:Wikinews Election 2012.svg|center|150px]] {{Infosection|name=2012 U.S. Presidential Election stories| * [[World leaders react to Obama win]] * [[On the campaign trail, September 2012]] * [[Pennsylvania courts to decide on controversial voter ID law]] * [[Obama, Romney spar in first 2012 U.S. presidential debate]] * [[On the campaign trail, October 2012]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}} <includeonly> [[Category:2012 United States presidential election]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:North America]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] </includeonly><noinclude> [[Category:Event infoboxes]] [[es:Plantilla:Elecciones presidenciales de Estados Unidos de 2012]] </noinclude> 3otv1fogw0468d6cpypwl9i0xm3xtuu 0 190518 5007957 4819584 2026-04-14T11:08:32Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007957 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|June 8, 2010}} {{Human rights infobox}}Initial composition of jury members in a [[human trafficking]] criminal trial began Tuesday in {{w|Clearwater, Florida|Clearwater}}, [[Florida]], [[United States]]. ''{{w|WTVT-TV}}'' reported this may be the first such case in the {{w|Tampa Bay Area}}. [[File:Clearwater, Florida Courthouse pmr01.jpg|thumb|left|{{w|Pinellas County, Florida|Pinellas County}} Courthouse, in Clearwater, Florida]] An individual named Colin Anthony Dyer was placed under arrest in May 2009. Dyer, 37, faces charges in the case including human trafficking and sexual battery. Accusations against Dyer include human trafficking on one woman, and both sexual battery and human trafficking on another young woman. Law enforcement officials stated Dyer along with three other individuals restrained women without their permission in a residence in {{w|Treasure Island, Florida|Treasure Island}}, Florida. According to statements by those investigating the case, Dyer and his associates made these women work as {{w|Prostitution|prostitutes}}. Other individuals that were arrested related to the case included Kenyatta Cornelius, Edward Jones, and Corinna Shaffer. The case involving Dyer is the first of these people to be heard in court at trial. Law enforcement officials have said that Dyer raped a woman and made her work in the capacity of a prostitute at a strip club called "Vegas Showgirls", located near {{w|St. Petersburg, Florida|St. Petersburg}}, Florida. Prior to admitting possible jury members into the courtroom, Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge Timothy Peters asked lawyers if a plea bargain deal had been made between the parties. Bryant Camareno, lawyer for Dyer, stated his client did not wish to plead guilty. Lawyers for the government did not give Dyer a formal plea bargain deal offer. Judge Peters queried Dyer regarding his understanding that he could be sentenced to a maximum of 60 years in jail, and Dyer answered in the affirmative. Police detectives have stated that this might be the first case in Florida dealing with the human trafficking of citizens of the [[United States]]. {{HYS}} ==Related news== *{{wikinews|title=UN claims over a quarter million human trafficking victims in EU|date=October 18, 2009}} *{{wikinews|title=Five U.S. defense contractor lobbying groups block ban on forced prostitution and labor|date=December 28, 2005}} *{{wikinews|title=Millions worldwide still in slavery|date=May 12, 2005}} == Sister links == * {{pedia|Clearwater, Florida}} * {{pedia|Human trafficking}} == Sources == *{{source|url=http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/local/pinellas/human-trafficking-trial-begins-06082010|title=Human trafficking trial begins|author=MyFoxTampaBay.com staff |pub=WTVT-TV|date=June 8, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/jury-selection-begins-in-human-trafficking-forced-prostitution-case/1100806|title=Jury selection begins in human trafficking, forced prostitution case|author=Curtis Krueger|pub=St. Petersburg Times|date=June 8, 2010}} {{Publish}} [[Category:North America]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:Florida]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Human trafficking]] [[Category:Sex crimes]] [[Category:Prostitution]] {{Archived-cc-2.5}} taujfi5xdp4355aoflv82anwvfvmkmm 14 190520 5007928 4876212 2026-04-14T11:08:22Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007928 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Topic cat |pipe={{lc:{{PAGENAME}}}} |intro= |usage note="Slavery" redirects here. Although some cases of slavery might not involve trafficking, attempting to draw the distinction could make the category hierarchy significantly more difficult to maintain. |image=Trafficking of women, children and men.png |imagecaption=Map of human trafficking sources (brown, orange, red) and destinations (light/dark blue). {{Image credit|[[Commons:User:KVDP|KVDP]]}} |offset={{{offset|0}}} |sisterprojects=yes |commons=Category:{{PAGENAME}} |wikisource=Category:{{PAGENAME}} |wikiversity=Human Trafficking }} [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Women's rights]] fhzwg0ogtvwtxztl65wwzdu2cqmjd1d 0 191456 5007996 4830411 2026-04-14T11:08:47Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007996 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|June 15, 2010}} {{Scientology}}[[Scientology]] is facing renewed criticism, due to an {{w|Investigative journalism|extensive exposé}} in the [[Florida]] newspaper the ''{{w|St. Petersburg Times}}'' which contains revealing accounts of women involved in the organization who say they were forced to have [[abortion]]s. Multiple different female members of the Scientology group called the {{w|Sea Org}} said they were pressured to have abortions, and were threatened with separation from their families, hard labor, interrogations, and {{w|shunning}}, if they did not comply. [[File:2008 02 London - Placard inspired by Mary Tabayoyon.jpg|thumb|left|A protester holds a sign which reads: "C[hurch] o[f] S[cientology] forces its female members to get abortions" <br />(February 10, 2008) {{Image source|[http://www.flickr.com/photos/14882701@N00/2255105063/ Martin Poulter]}}]] Women that came forward to the ''St. Petersburg Times'' said that those who did not wish to undergo an abortion were shunned by others within the Sea Org group, and were labeled as "out ethics" and "degraded beings". The Sea Org consists of 6,000 members of Scientology, who sign billion-year contracts to work for the organization for multiple lifetimes. Joining the Sea Org is considered a high calling within Scientology. {{w|L. Ron Hubbard}}, the founder of Scientology, stated his appreciation for families within the Sea Org. Scientology's subsequent leader, [[David Miscavige]], issued an order that children were to be banned in the Sea Org. The mandate by Miscavige asserted that children hampered the productivity of the Scientology order. {{QuoteRight|There is no church policy to convince anyone to have an abortion, and the church has never engaged in such activity.|4={{w|Tommy Davis (Scientology)|Tommy Davis}}, [[Scientology]] spokesman}} Scientology representative, {{w|Tommy Davis (Scientology)|Tommy Davis}} denied all of the assertions made by the women. "There is no church policy to convince anyone to have an abortion, and the church has never engaged in such activity. The decision to have a child or terminate a pregnancy is a personal decision made by a couple. That applies to all Scientologists. If any current or former Sea Org member ever 'pressured' someone to have an abortion, they did so independently, and that action was not approved, endorsed or advocated by the church," stated Davis to the ''St. Petersburg Times''. Another woman is suing the Scientology organization in {{w|United States federal courts|United States federal court}}, and stated she was threatened with severe repercussions if she did not have an abortion. Claire Headley, 35, a member of the Sea Org when she was in Scientology, told the ''St. Petersburg Times'', "The policy was if a staff member became pregnant, that they were to have an abortion." In 1991, Headley became a member of the Sea Org at age sixteen, and began work with the division of the organization in [[Los Angeles, California|Los Angeles]], [[California]]. She married at age seventeen, while a member of the organization. Headley said that officials within Scientology leadership pressured her to have two abortions: one at age nineteen, and another at age 21. Headley believed she had "no choice", as she had witnessed other women that refused to have abortions instructed to perform manual labor, with one pregnant woman ordered to dig ditches. Headley said that during pressure to have her second abortion she was forbidden to phone her husband to discuss the decision. She spent a total of thirteen years in the Sea Org. {{QuoteLeft|The policy was if a staff member became pregnant, that they were to have an abortion.|4=Claire Headley}} Laura Dieckman, 31, said that she was enthusiastic about beginning a family when she became pregnant within Scientology at age seventeen, but was instructed to have an abortion. In a federal lawsuit against Scientology, Dieckman stated she joined with the Sea Org at the age of twelve, and at age sixteen she married another member of the group, Jesse DeCrescenzo. She said she was pressured to have an abortion in 1996. Dieckman said to the ''St. Petersburg Times'': "I was pounded for two days by the top person in my organization ... about how the baby wasn't a baby yet, it was just tissue and it wouldn't matter if I aborted the baby." Dieckman left Scientology in 2004. In a video posted to the website of the ''St. Petersburg Times'', Dieckman emotionally recounted how she had immediately regretted going through with the procedure, "They will do an ultrasound before the procedure so you see the heartbeat. ... I'm lying there ... and I was like, 'No.' But it's too late. I'd already done it." Natalie Hagemo said that 20 years ago at age nineteen, she was pressured by Scientology officials to have an abortion, but she resisted. Hagemo gave birth to Shelby on August 20, 1990. Hagemo's daughter was recruited into the Sea Org at age 14. Shelby contacted her mother a week later wanting to leave the Sea Org; Hagemo had a difficult time getting Shelby out of the group. It was not until this year that Hagemo told her daughter about experiencing pressure from Scientology officials to have an abortion. The ''St. Petersburg Times'' received sworn depositions from additional women including Sunny Pereira, who said they were intimidated into having abortions they did not wish to undergo. "They put you in this position where you're weighing the lives of all these people you're supposed to be saving against this one little tiny speck of nuisance that's growing inside of you," said Pereira. Spokesman Tommy Davis stated the women were accusing Scientology of forced abortions because of choices they now "appear to regret". In [[Nevada]], {{w|Republican Party (United States)|Republican party}} candidate for the {{w|United States Senate}}, {{w|Sharron Angle}}, was the focus of criticism for her support of a Scientology-associated program. Angle's opponent, incumbent Senator and {{w|Senate Majority Leader}} {{w|Democratic Party (United States)|Democrat}} {{w|Harry Reid}}, took out a 30-second negative political ad critical of Angle for supporting "a Scientology plan to give massages to prisoners". The prison program Angle had supported was based on techniques developed by Scientology founder, {{w|L. Ron Hubbard}}. Angle had previously been the subject of a similar ad in the Republican primary, generated by the campaign of her opponent {{w|Sue Lowden}}. Sharron Angle is {{w|pro-life}}, and ''{{w|The New York Times}}'' columnist {{w|Ramesh Ponnuru}} noted her position against abortion helped her win the Republican primary. "Angle would not have been able to unite populist conservatives and beat the party establishment’s candidate had she been pro-choice," noted Ponnuru. {{HYS}} ==Related news== *{{wikinews|title=Senator Xenophon of Australia calls for criminal investigation into Scientology|date=November 19, 2009}} *{{wikinews|title=Wikinews interviews Mark Bunker, producer of anti-Scientology website 'XenuTV'|date=February 18, 2008}} == Sister links == {{sisters |Scientology and abortion |Sharron Angle |commons|Category:Scientology and abortion }} == Sources == *{{source|url=http://www.salon.com/life/broadsheet/2010/06/14/scientology_forced_abortions/|title=Scientology and coerced abortions|author=Jamie Kapalko|pub=Salon magazine|date=June 14, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://online.worldmag.com/2010/06/14/no-kids-allowed-in-scientology/|title="No kids allowed" in Scientology|author=Alisa Harris|pub=World Magazine|date=June 14, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/former-scientologists-claim-church-forced-them-to-have-abortions/19515068|title=Former Scientologists Claim Church Forced Abortions|author=Michelle Ruiz|pub=AOL News|date=June 14, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://www.campusprogress.org/news/5695/former-scientologists-report-being-pressured-into-having-abortions-by-church|title=Former Scientologists Report Being Pressured into Having Abortions by Church|author=Andrew J. Bluebond|pub=Campus Progress|date=June 14, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Scientologists-forced-us-to-abort-claim-women/Article1-557600.aspx|title=Scientologists forced us to abort, claim women|author=|pub=Hindustan Times|date=June 14, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://www.tampabay.com/news/scientology/article1102159.ece|title=She fought Scientology for the child they wanted to abort|author= Thomas C. Tobin and Joe Childs|pub=St. Petersburg Times|date=June 14, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20007594-503544.html|title=Harry Reid Releases Ad Attacking Sharron Angle|author=Brian Montopoli|pub=CBS News|date=June 14, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/06/running_against_sharron_angle.html|title=Running against Sharron Angle on Social Security and Scientology|author={{w|David Weigel}}|pub=The Washington Post|date=June 14, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://www.tampabay.com/news/scientology/article1101759.ece|title=No kids allowed|author=|pub=St. Petersburg Times|date=June 13, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://www.tampabay.com/news/scientology/church-of-scientology-the-headley-lawsuits/1102038|title=Church of Scientology: The Headley Lawsuits|author=|pub=St. Petersburg Times|date=June 13, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://www.ktnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12638737|title=Reid ad slams GOP nominee on Scientology, Medicare|author=[[Associated Press]]|pub=KTNV-TV|date=June 12, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/13/opinion/13ponnuru.html|title=The Year of the (Pro-Life) Woman|author=Joe Childs and Thomas C. Tobin|pub=The New York Times|date=June 11, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://www.kolotv.com/news/headlines/95468544.html?ref=544|title=Adwatch: Spas, Massages and Politics|author=Ed Pearce|pub=KOLO-TV|date=June 2, 2010}} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:North America]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:California]] [[Category:Florida]] [[Category:Nevada]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Scientology]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Health]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Abortion]] [[Category:Harry Reid]] [[Category:Democratic Party (United States)]] [[Category:Republican Party (United States)]] [[Category:Tampa Bay Times]] g4cs3o9sn9z96rrzvohbptbv27r9j57 14 193445 5007925 4719305 2026-04-14T11:08:21Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007925 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Topic cat |pipe={{lc:{{PAGENAME}}}} |image=Abortion Laws.svg |imagecaption=A map of the legality of abortion worldwide. {{image|paren=yes|[[c:User:NuclearVacuum|NuclearVacuum]]}} |offset={{{offset|0}}} |sisterprojects=yes |commons=Category:{{PAGENAME}} |wikiquote={{PAGENAME}} |wikisource=Portal:{{PAGENAME}} |wiktionary={{lc:{{PAGENAME}}}} |wikiversity={{PAGENAME}} }} [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Health]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Science and technology]] tih3wz11z5vduuixtmv7h72qehmai6b 0 194988 5007939 4815961 2026-04-14T11:08:26Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007939 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|July 11, 2010}} [[File:Rowan Williams -001.jpg|thumb|right|Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams in 2007 {{image credit|[http://www.flickr.com/people/40563877@N00 Brian]}} ]] The [[Church of England]]'s ruling body, the General Synod, yesterday rejected a compromise deal on the divisive issue of women bishops. An amendment to satisfy traditionalists was jointly proposed by its two most senior clerics, the Archbishop of Canterbury, {{w|Rowan Williams|Dr Rowan Williams}}, and the Archbishop of York, {{w|John Sentamu|Dr John Sentamu}}. Despite getting a majority of support across the Synod as a whole, it was rejected after narrowly being defeated in the vote of the House of Clergy. The amendment would have allowed male "complementary bishops" to cater to parishes, which objected to having a female bishop in their diocese. The bishops would supposedly have "co-ordinate" powers, but some campaigners supporting women bishops said the plans would result in an unfair "two-track" system. "I do not believe this will deliver, and it is certainly not good news for women clergy," said Christine Allsopp, Archdeacon of {{w|Northampton}}, of the proposed amendment. Many traditionalists have strongly opposed the ordination of female bishops, and threatened to leave the Church over the issue. The situation has been worsened by offers from [[Pope Benedict XVI|Pope Benedict]] for disaffected Anglicans to join the [[Roman Catholic Church]] instead. Earlier Dr Sentamu had claimed that Dr Williams was facing "spin and propaganda", and called for it to end. Dr Williams insisted that the vote should not be considered a test of the Synod's "loyalty" to the two Archbishops, but the rejection is widely seen as a blow to their authority. The Synod is due to continue its debate on women bishops over the next few days. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source |url=http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE6691UR20100710 |title=Archbishops dealt blow over women bishops compromise |author=Avril Ormsby |pub=Reuters |date=July 10, 2010 }} *{{source |url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10587542.stm |title=Women bishop row compromise plan fails in synod vote |author= |pub=BBC News Online |date=July 10, 2010 }} *{{source |url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/women-bishops-row-renews-fears-of-anglican-church-split-2023995.html |title=Women bishops row renews fears of Anglican church split |author=Emily Dugan |pub=The Independent |date=July 11, 2010 }} [[Category:England]] [[Category:United Kingdom]] [[Category:Christianity]] [[Category:Anglicanism]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Roman Catholic Church]] [[Category:Europe]] [[Category:Pope Benedict XVI]] {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} cnb4njeknfiuswhb46r2el7grnxjav9 10 196227 5007564 4580595 2026-04-13T13:03:31Z Metropolitan90 314212 replace DPL with static list 5007564 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=[[w:Deepwater Horizon oil spill|Deepwater Horizon disaster]]}} {{Infosection|name=Other stories about the Deepwater Horizon disaster| *24 April 2011: [[U.S. Coast Guard investigation finds 'poor safety culture' contributed to Deepwater Horizon disaster]] *16 April 2011: [[Experts raise serious questions over safety of U.S. oil industry and warn another spill may be 'unavoidable']] *30 March 2011: [[BP lose laptop containing sensitive claimant data]] *21 October 2010: [[Scientist demands end to US 'addiction to oil']] *20 September 2010: [[Deepwater Horizon oil well finally dead, authorities say]] }} <small><div style="text-align: right;">...[[category:Deepwater Horizon drilling rig explosion|More articles here]]</div style></small> {{Infosection|name=NASA photo of Deepwater oil slick| [[File:2010 Oil Slick in the Gulf of Mexico.jpg|196px|Oil spreading north-east from the leaking Deepwater Horizon well in the Gulf of Mexico]]}} <!--{{InfosectionEnd}}--> {{InfoboxEnd}} [[Category:Deepwater Horizon drilling rig explosion]]<noinclude> An infobox for news related to the [[:Category:Deepwater Horizon drilling rig explosion|Deepwater Horizon drilling rig explosion]]. 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[[Category:State infoboxes]] </noinclude> a4lj11eth6ttrtctv0xb04huy7bpqkk 0 213432 5007965 4822708 2026-04-14T11:08:35Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007965 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|October 15, 2010}} [[File:Sharron angle kdwn debate infobox.JPG|thumb|[[w|Sharron Angle]] in 2010 {{Image source|[[w:user:Wainstead|Steve Wainstead]]}}]] An influential [[Nevada]] politician from the [[Republican Party (United States)|Republican Party]] has stated she opposes {{w|Sharron Angle}}'s candidacy for [[United States]] {{w|United States Senate|Senate}} in that state due to Angle's "extreme" stance against [[abortion]], and will vote against the candidate in the upcoming general election in November. Sharron Angle is against abortion in all cases, including incidents of {{w|rape}} and {{w|incest}}. {{HYS question left|Should abortions be allowed in cases of rape and incest?}} {{w|Sue Wagner}} is a former {{w|Lieutenant Governor of Nevada}}. She has served as a member of the {{w|Nevada Gaming Commission}}, and as a state legislator. Wagner assisted in the formation of a 1990 voter-approved referendum safeguarding abortion rights in Nevada. Wagner characterized Sharron Angle's position against abortion as "extreme", but said she would not endorse the candidacy of Angle's major party opponent, {{w|Democratic Party (United States)|Democratic}} United States Senate {{w|United States Senate Majority Leader|Majority Leader}} [[Harry Reid]]. Sharron Angle was asked by the moderator Thursday in a debate with Reid if she would support any US federal tax revenue going towards funding for abortion; she responded with a curt, "No." Angle's campaign did not respond to queries from the [[Associated Press]] about Wagner's statements. Sharron Angle has invited controversy in the past due to her views on. In an article about "Tea Party extremism" in Nevada, ''{{w|The Globe and Mail]]'' reported, "Ms. Angle has suggested pregnant rape victims turn 'a lemon situation into lemonade' instead of having an abortion." ''{{w|The Washington Post}}'' reported that Senator Harry Reid's first negative campaign advertisement about Angle criticized the candidate for, "... supporting a [[Scientology]]-backed prisoner rehabilitation program." ==Related news== *{{wikinews|title=Women reveal accounts of forced abortion in Scientology|date=June 15, 2010}} == Sister links == {{sisters |Sharron Angle |Scientology and abortion |commons|Category:Sharron Angle }} == Sources == *{{source|url=http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/oct/15/nevada-republican-figure-says-she-opposes-angle/|title=Nevada Republican figure says she opposes Angle|author=[[Associated Press]]|pub=Las Vegas Sun|date=October 15, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://www.nationalreview.com/battle10/249874/live-blogging-nv-senate-debate-part-one-elizabeth-crum|title= Live Blogging the NV Senate Debate, Part One|author=Elizabeth Crum|pub=National Review Online|date=October 14, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/konrad-yakabuski/tea-party-extremism-may-backfire-in-nevada/article1751942/|title=Tea Party extremism may backfire in Nevada|author=Konrad Yakabuski|pub=The Globe and Mail|date=October 10, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/06/running_against_sharron_angle.html|title=Running against Sharron Angle on Social Security and Scientology|author={{w|David Weigel}}|pub=The Washington Post|date=June 14, 2010}} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:North America]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:Nevada]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Sex crimes]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Health]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Abortion]] [[Category:Harry Reid]] [[Category:Republican Party (United States)]] cstaf5z2433tb61t2y0j64nrjsstt2x 10 227987 5007673 4578005 2026-04-13T16:27:28Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. 5007673 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=Mississippi}} [[Image:Mississippi in United States.svg|200px|center]] {{Infosection|name=Related articles| * [[On the campaign trail in the USA, May 2024]] * [[Joe Biden wins 2020 US Democratic presidential primaries in Michigan, Missouri, and Mississippi]] * [[Hurricane Nate weakens as it reaches United States]] * [[Mississippi medical board allows embattled physician to keep license]] * [[Public health officials advise on rising flu levels in Texas 2013/2014 season]]}} {{Infosection|name=Read more|[[File:Flag of Mississippi.svg|90px|center|link=Category:Mississippi]]}} {{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude> An infobox for {{PAGENAME}} and its news. 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[{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=purge}} Refresh]'' Customize this infobox '''{{#ifexist:Template:Infobox/lookup/{{PAGENAME}}|[[Template:Infobox/lookup/{{PAGENAME}}|here]]|{{plainlinks|{{fullurl:Template:Infobox/lookup/{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit&preload=Template:Infobox+table/preload}}|here}}}}{{hidden use|Template:Infobox table/preload}}'''. [[Category:State infoboxes]] </noinclude> c1hzjdtgsqwp52nbhwpyle0ba71m385 0 360185 5007958 4820963 2026-04-14T11:08:32Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007958 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|February 8, 2012}} {{Health}} {{w|Karen Handel}}, who was vice president of public policy for [[Susan G. Komen for the Cure]], resigned yesterday, one week after the organization took flak for its decision not to fund {{w|Planned Parenthood}}. At her announcement, Handel criticized Planned Parenthood for leading an "orchestrated, clearly pre-meditated attack on Komen." [[File:Handel.jpeg|thumb|left|Karen Handel in 2010 while she was Secretary of State in Georgia.{{image|MMAFightFan}}]] The Komen Foundation is known for raising awareness of breast cancer and for its funding of {{w|breast cancer screening}}. Handel was a former [[Republican Party (United States)|Republican]] candidate for governor in the state of [[Georgia (U.S. state)|Georgia]] where she took a pro-life stance, but she lost the primary race to current Georgia Governor {{w|Nathan Deal}}, who took office in 2011. Unlike others at Komen, Handel said the organization faced pressure from groups that were against [[abortion]] to do something about its funding to Planned Parenthood. {{QuoteRight|I have known Karen for many years, and we both share a common commitment to our organization’s lifelong mission, which must always remain our sole focus.|4={{w|Nancy Brinker}} }} She said Komen's process for creating a policy that allowed the foundation to decline funding for any organization that was under investigation, even if it was not a criminal investigation, was a "thoughtful and thoroughly reviewed decision … that has unfortunately been turned into something about politics." Handel said while the guidelines behind the split were created before she had obtained her position at Komen, she was one person in the group who decided to apply them to Planned Parenthood and halt Komen's funding. In her statement, Handel said she was "deeply disappointed by the gross mischaracterizations of the strategy, its rationale, and my involvement in it." Handel declined a {{w|severance package}} from Komen. {{w|Nancy Brinker}}, who is Komen’s chief executive and founder, admitted the foundation made mistakes in handling the Planned Parenthood decision last week. "I accepted the resignation of Karen Handel," Brinker said. "I have known Karen for many years, and we both share a common commitment to our organization’s lifelong mission, which must always remain our sole focus. I wish her the best in future endeavors." While the Komen Foundation has since reinstated its funding of Planned Parenthood, several other board members have also resigned since the controversy began. {{haveyoursay}} == Related news == *{{wikinews|title=Susan G. Komen Foundation reneges on Planned Parenthood funding cuts|date=February 4, 2012}} *{{wikinews|title=Susan G. Komen Foundation stops funding to Planned Parenthood|date=February 2, 2012}} == Sister links == *{{pedia|Susan G. Komen for the Cure}} __NOTOC__ == Sources == *{{source|url= http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/top-susan-g-komen-official-resigns-after-planned-parenthood-flap/ |title= Top Susan G. Komen Official Resigns After Planned Parenthood Flap |author= Huma Kahn |pub= ABC News |date= Feb. 7, 2012 }} *{{source|url= http://www.forbes.com/sites/meghancasserly/2012/02/07/karen-handel-exits-susan-g-komen-the-resignation-letter/ |title= Karen Handel Exits Susan G. Komen: The Resignation Letter |author= Meghan Casserly |pub= Forbes |date= Feb. 7, 2012 }} ==External links== *[http://www.komen.org/ Susan G. Komen for the Cure website] *[http://www.plannedparenthood.org/ Planned Parenthood Federation of America] *[http://mediamatters.org/search/tag/planned_parenthood Planned Parenthood] at ''{{w|Media Matters}}'' {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:United States]] [[Category:North America]] [[Category:Abortion]] [[Category:Cancer]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Georgia (U.S. state)]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Texas]] [[Category:Susan G. Komen for the Cure]] [[Category:Planned Parenthood]] [[Category:Slynnr.2013 (Wikinewsie)]] [[Category:Health]] 2vr28h1hi3ls8kid0mxuln748lxn7oi 14 384914 5007926 1448993 2026-04-14T11:08:21Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007926 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Topic cat |intro=observed annually on March 8 |category=International Women's Day |image=Frauentag 1914 Heraus mit dem Frauenwahlrecht.jpg |imagecaption=Women's Day poster, 1914 |sisterprojects=yes |wikisource=Portal:International Women's Day |wikiquote={{PAGENAME}} }} [[Category:Labor]] eige5t9gceefhmuhd16yojd6yv152ie 0 388887 5007977 4825597 2026-04-14T11:08:40Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007977 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|March 14, 2012}} {{Infobox Health}}In an opinion piece published by ''[[CNN]]'' on Tuesday, [[Georgetown University]] law student and [[women's rights]] advocate [[Sandra Fluke]] insisted she will not allow slurs from critics to silence her and other women from continuing to speak out on issues regarding {{w|women's health}} and {{w|contraception}}. [[File:2012 February 16 Sandra Fluke cropped.png|thumb|left|[[wikisource:Author:Sandra Kay Fluke|Sandra Fluke]] (2012). {{Image source|[[United States Congress]]}}]] Fluke has faced slurs and personal attacks after speaking before the {{w|House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee}} in the [[United States House of Representatives]] about women’s health and contraception. She was called a "[[wikt:slut|slut]]" and a "[[wikt:prostitute|prostitute]]" by talk radio show host {{w|Rush Limbaugh}}. In response to these attacks, Fluke has received public support from women, members of the media, and politicians including the [[President of the United States]]. {{QuoteRight|Attacking me and women who use contraception by calling us prostitutes and worse cannot silence us.|4=[[wikisource:Author:Sandra Kay Fluke|Sandra Fluke]]}} In her piece for ''CNN'', Fluke took the opportunity to thank her supporters, writing, “By now, many have heard the stories I wanted to share thanks to the congressional leaders and members of the media who have supported me and millions of women in speaking out.” She characterized the “opponents of reproductive health access” who issued personal attacks against her as being motivated by an attempt to change the topic of conversation away from a dialogue about women’s health, and “to silence women's voices regarding their own health care.” [[File:The Testimony Chairman Issa Doesn't Want You to Hear.ogv|thumb|left|[[wikisource:Author:Sandra Fluke|Sandra Fluke]] discussing her prepared U.S. Congressional testimony {{Image source|media=Video|[[United States Congress]]}}]] Fluke wrote that the efforts by some to drown out women from speaking out about women’s health were unsuccessful. She came to this conclusion due to the multitude of positive comments and encouragement sent to her by both female and male individuals urging that contraception medication be considered a medical necessity. Asserting that she would not remain silent on this issue of women’s health, Fluke wrote, “Attacking me and women who use contraception by calling us prostitutes and worse cannot silence us.” She noted that a significant majority of women have utilized contraception medication, and commented that there exists a social disconnect between politicians attempting to make it more difficult for women to access this type of health care, and the views of society-at-large about the matter: “Restricting access to such a basic health care service, which 99% of sexually experienced American women have used and 62% of American women are using right now, is out of touch with public sentiment.” Fluke concluded her piece by emphasizing that those in power should not govern based on [[wiktionary:ideology|ideology]]: “I am proud to stand with the millions of women and men who recognize that our government should legislate according to the reality of our lives -- not for ideology.” After being banned by Congressman [[Darrell Issa]] from speaking before a {{w|Committee on Oversight and Government Reform}} hearing on February 16 which consisted mainly of male panelists, Fluke appeared before a meeting of the {{w|House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee}} convened by {{w|Minority leader of the United States House of Representatives}} [[Nancy Pelosi]] on February 23. Fluke spoke to the committee about the need for contraception to be covered by health care plans offered by employers, as a matter integral to women’s health. She cited multiple cases where women take contraception medication as part of their health care for treatment of medical conditions unrelated to {{w|birth control}}, including two women who suffer from {{w|polycystic ovarian syndrome}}, a woman who is afflicted with {{w|endometriosis}} and another who takes contraception in order to prevent {{w|seizures}}. {{QuoteLeft|Time and time again, women have been silenced in this discussion, a discussion about our own very personal health care decisions.|4=U.S. Senator {{w|Jeanne Shaheen}}}} [[File:President Obama discusses his phone call to Sandra Fluke.ogv|thumb|right|U.S. President [[Barack Obama]] discusses his phone call to [[wikisource:Author:Sandra Kay Fluke|Sandra Fluke]]. (March 6, 2012) {{Image source|media=Video|{{w|The White House}} }}]] Speaking before the [[United States Senate]] on February 17 along with fellow members {{w|Patty Murray}}, {{w|Kirsten Gillibrand}}, [[Barbara Boxer]], and [[Charles Schumer]], Senator {{w|Jeanne Shaheen}} of [[New Hampshire]] expressed her support for Fluke. Like Fluke, Senator Shaheen pointed out the need not to silence the voices of women in the public government debate about women’s health care: “Time and time again, women have been silenced in this discussion, a discussion about our own very personal health care decisions.” Senator Shaheen concluded her remarks with an explanation as to why she believes women should have significant representation in discussions about their health care: “Women deserve a voice in this debate because, after all, in the end this is about our health and it is about a health care decision that is between women, their families, their doctors, and their own faith.” President [[Barack Obama]] called Fluke on March 2 to express his support for her courage to speak out on issues of women’s health. In his first press conference of 2012 on March 6, he discussed his reasons for deciding to call Fluke. The President cited his personal thoughts about his own two daughters: “And the reason I called Ms. Fluke is because I thought about {{W|Family of Barack Obama|Malia and Sasha}} [Obama's daughters], and one of the things I want them to do as they get older is to engage in issues they care about, even ones I may not agree with them on. I want them to be able to speak their mind in a civil and thoughtful way. And I don't want them attacked or called horrible names because they're being good citizens.” President Obama went on to state that Fluke served as a positive role model for citizen participation in democracy and society: “And I wanted Sandra to know that I thought her parents should be proud of her, and that we want to send a message to all our young people that being part of a democracy involves argument and disagreements and debate, and we want you to be engaged, and there's a way to do it that doesn't involve you being demeaned and insulted, particularly when you’re a private citizen.” {{HYS}} ==Sister links== __NOTOC__ {{sisters |wikisource|Author:Sandra Kay Fluke |commons|Sandra Fluke |wikiquote|Sandra Fluke }} == Sources == {{Original reporting}} {{FA}} *{{source|url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/sandra-fluke-silenced-slut-attacks-article-1.1038205?localLinksEnabled=false|title=Sandra Fluke says she won't be silenced by 'slut' attacks‎|author=Nina Mandell|pub=New York Daily News|date=March 13, 2012}} *{{source|url=http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/313416/20120313/sandra-fluke-cnn-op-ed-limbaugh-critics.htm|title=Sandra Fluke CNN Essay: Limbaugh, Others 'Cannot Silence Us'‎|author=Sara Dover|pub=International Business Times|date=March 13, 2012}} *{{source|url=http://www.nationaljournal.com/healthcare/sandra-fluke-i-won-t-be-silenced-20120313|title=Sandra Fluke: I Won't Be Silenced‎|author=Lara Seligman|pub=National Journal|date=March 13, 2012}} *{{source|url=http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/13/opinion/fluke-contraception/index.html?hpt=hp_t2|title=Sandra Fluke: Slurs won’t silence women|author=[[wikisource:Author:Sandra Kay Fluke|Sanda Fluke]]|pub=CNN|date=March 13, 2012}} *{{source|url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62IjJZ1nx7U|title=President Obama discusses his phone call to Sandra Fluke|author=U.S. President [[Barack Obama]]|pub=The White House|date=March 6, 2012}} *{{source|url=http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2012-02-17/html/CREC-2012-02-17-pt1-PgS882-2.htm|title=Women’s Health Care|author=U.S. Senator {{w|Jeanne Shaheen}}|pub=Congressional Record|date=February 17, 2012}} ==External links== *[http://www.c-span.org/Events/Democrats-Hold-Hearing-on-Contraceptives-Womens-Health/10737428508-1/ Democrats Hold Hearing on Contraceptives & Women’s Health], House Democratic Steering & Policy Committee, Hearing on Women’s Health & Contraception, {{w|C-SPAN}}. *[http://democrats.oversight.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5627&Itemid=49 Sandra Fluke Finally Testifies Before Congress], official website, {{w|Committee on Oversight and Government Reform}}, Democratic ranking member, Congressman {{w|Elijah E. Cummings}}. *[http://www.democraticleader.gov/news/press?id=2500 Pelosi Remarks at House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee Hearing on Women’s Health], official website, {{w|Minority leader of the United States House of Representatives}}, Representative [[Nancy Pelosi]]. *[[wikisource:Sandra Fluke testimony entered in Congressional Record by Senator Barbara Boxer|Sandra Fluke testimony entered in Congressional Record by Senator Barbara Boxer]], ''{{w|Congressional Record}}'', 2012, Vol. 158, Pg. S1135. {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:North America]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:Washington, D.C.]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Barack Obama]] [[Category:Health]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Abortion]] [[Category:Science and technology]] [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:Education]] [[Category:Original reporting]] [[Category:New Hampshire]] [[Category:US Congress]] [[Category:US House of Representatives]] [[Category:Nancy Pelosi]] [[Category:US Senate]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Sandra Fluke]] [[Category:Georgetown University]] [[Category:Barbara Boxer]] [[Category:Darrell Issa]] [[Category:CNN]] [[Category:Chuck Schumer]] [[Category:Kirsten Gillibrand]] lujcf86ty59e50w2mdjc8i3f5qt5kyf 0 396334 5007989 4829862 2026-04-14T11:08:45Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007989 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|March 23, 2012}} {{Wikimedia Foundation}} [[File:Mary Gardiner.jpg|thumb|left|Mary Gardiner will give the opening keynote at Wikimania 2012 {{image|Andrew Bennetts}}]] {{WikimediaMention}} The planning committee for Wikimania 2012, the international conference for Wikimedia, announced on March 22 that Australian women's {{w|open source}} advocate and computer programmer {{w|Mary Gardiner}} will be the keynote speaker for the opening session of the conference on Thursday, July 12, 2012. This will make Gardiner the first woman to keynote at [[Wikimania]]. Gardiner is the co-founder of the {{w|Ada Initiative}}, a non-profit organization devoted to improving support for women in open source tech and communities, including Wikipedia. Based in Sydney, Australia, she founded AussieChix, the first and largest open source organization for women in Australia. AussieChix eventually moved into the broader Oceania area, and has since been renamed as Oceania Women of Open Technology. Gardiner is also highly active in the Australian {{w|Linux}} community, having served as program chair of linux.conf.au and as a council member for {{w|Linux Australia}}. For her service to the Australian Linux community, Gardiner was awarded Linux Australia's 2011 {{w|Rusty Wrench}} award. As an activist, she has provided a voice for women in open source, and through the Ada Initiative she works to fight against "the social norms and beliefs of a minority of contributors who are not interested in women as colleagues or who do not believe women have the capability to successfully contribute". "Mary has been a strong advocate for open source and has worked extensively to elevate the role of women and increase their participation in open source and open culture," stated James Hare, Wikimania 2012 coordinator. The decision for Gardiner to keynote coincides with the Wikimedia Foundation's goals to close the gender gap in Wikipedia, by encouraging the participation of and retaining women editors. Gardiner's appearance will coincide with AdaCamp, an unconference planned by the Ada Initiative which aims to bring women in open source tech from around the world to Washington, D.C. to work together to build community and dicuss women's issues in the world of open source. Wikimania 2012 takes place July 12-14, 2012, in [[Washington, D.C.]] {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == {{original}} *{{source|url=http://adainitiative.org/2012/03/mary-gardiner-to-keynote-wikimania-2012/ |title=Mary Gardiner to keynote Wikimania 2012 |author=Valerie Aurora |pub=The Ada Initiative |date=23 March 2012 }} *{{source|url=http://blog.wikimediadc.org/2012/03/wikimania-2012-keynote-announcement/ |title=Wikimania 2012 Keynote Announcement |author=Nicholas Bashour |pub=Wikimedia District of Columbia |date=22 March 2012 }} *{{source|url=http://www.techworld.com.au/article/406353/melbourne_adacamp_address_open_technology_gender_issues |title=Melbourne AdaCamp to address open technology's gender issues |author=Rohan Pearce |pub=Computerworld |date=4 November 2011 }} *{{source|url=http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/australia/linuxconfau-2012-cyborg-lawyer-demands-source/577 |title=Linux.conf.au 2012: cyborg lawyer demands source |author=Stilgherrian |pub=Tech Republic |date=19 January 2012 }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Washington, D.C.]] [[Category:Wikimania]] [[Category:Australia]] [[Category:Linux]] [[Category:Wikimedia gender gap]] [[Category:Wikimedia Foundation]] [[Category:Internet]] b1lh7iqqwi16xaraa45duly3mngnigo 0 397005 5007990 4829734 2026-04-14T11:08:45Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007990 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|March 25, 2012}} {{Internet}} [[File:Sexist Sqoot event promo.jpg|thumb|left|An excerpt of the advertisement tweeted by Sqoot. Red circles added for emphasis.]] Within 24-hours of posting a web advertisement for an upcoming hackathon in [[Boston]], [[Massachusetts]], web startup Sqoot has lost four sponsors<!-- Source: Brockmeier --> for the event, in what has been described as the "worst startup PR crisis in recent history."<!-- Source: Hough--> This caused them to postpone the event and apologize<!-- Source: Sqoot apology --> in response to thousands of tweets that opposed the advert and found its content sexist. On March 20, Sqoot, an {{w|API}} provider that delivers daily deals like {{w|Groupon}} and {{w|Gilt City}}<!-- Source: Sqoot website -->, posted an online advert for their upcoming Boston API Jam. The advert promoted various perks for the event, including an in-house DJ, cocktails, {{w|food truck|food trucks}} and access to women: women specifically there to serve beer to attendees. As soon as the ad was posted to {{w|Eventbrite}}, many on Twitter expressed concern. Over 3,000 tweets later<!-- See original research notes -->, the advert was deemed sexist by many and Twitter users both condemned Sqoot and contacted the sponsors of the event. The ad, which Alex Williams of SiliconANGLE described as "bizarre" and "misogynist,"<!-- Source: Williams--> was quietly changed on Eventbrite by Sqoot, removing the mention of women as beer peddlers. In a matter of hours, four sponsors had pulled out from the Boston event: CloudMine, Apigee, {{w|Heroku}}, and {{w|MongoHQ}}.<!-- Source: Brockmeier --> Shortly thereafter, Sqoot offered two apologies: a brief apology<!-- Source: Brockmeier --> which was then followed by a more detailed apology stating that they desired to have a "good party" that was not a standard hackathon experience of pizza and keynote speakers. Sqoot stated that they "aimed to call attention to the male-dominated tech world through humor and intended to be inclusive, the gravity of our wording was just the opposite. Our words completely undermined our intentions and went further to harm the world we're trying to have a positive impact on."<!-- Source: Sqoot "We can do better" --> Other sponsors such as {{w|Constant Contact}} and Simple Relevance remained as sponsors.<!-- Source: Hough --> Shanley Kane, director of product management at {{w|Basho Technologies}}, supported the sponsor withdrawal and didn't just consider the advertisement sexist, but also {{w|homophobic}} by ostracizing gay men by promoting a seemingly "straight" agenda for the event. Kane also believed that Sqoot had the "false assumption that women would not attend the event at all," by promoting it with a male targeted spin. <!-- Source: Williams -->In an industry that is dominated by men, it can be assumed that more men would attend the hackathon than women, but, the advertisement ostracized women even more from attending. And this wasn't Sqoot's first foray into straight male targeted marketing. Blog posts like "Sqoot Makes You Yelp!" featuring the Yelp logo on a woman's backside and "Sqoot Goes Topless" featuring an image of a topless woman, are meant to promote the opening of Yelp's API and company transparency.<!-- Source: Sqoot blogs --> Alex Williams believes that the Sqoot situation shows that sexism within the tech industry is broad and growing. "Women are marginalized and treated more as objects than as colleagues. The trend is a disturbing one and poses a serious threat to the health and diversity of the tech sector."<!-- Source: Williams --> Techli's Kathryn Hough chocked it up to immaturity, "Someone needs to tell young founders that frat house behavior is not acceptable in the business world. If Sqoot’s business collapses for a few sentences of sexist copy, I hope that other young founders get to see the wreckage before following them off the plank."<!-- Source: Hough--> Lukas Blakk, a {{w|release engineer}} and advisory board member for {{w|The Ada Initiative}}, a non-profit that tries to increase female participation in technology and open source, believes that having a code of conduct in place is a necessity for businesses, and for those businesses who don't "you’ve got a ticking time bomb in your organization’s future."<!-- Source: Blakk --> Social media is giving businesses a new challenge when it comes to marketing. When it comes to the criticism fielded by the public towards businesses regarding sexist content, fellow Ada Initiative board member and database analyst Selena Deckelmann agrees that businesses need to step up to the challenge and respond appropriately. "...companies need to develop the skills necessary to respond with grace and understanding, even when under intense, negative scrutiny. Silencing, gas-lighting and ignoring the messenger tactics no longer work when a social network quickly spreads information, and occasionally, outrage." Is there a future for Sqoot? Mike Maney believes Sqoot can recover. Maney, head of influencer management for Alcatel-Lucent, acknowledges that Sqoot will have a long way to go to regain their credibility amongst the tech industry and the clientele they serve, "But, the work they'll have to do to undo the self-inflicted damage [...] is going to require a massive effort."<!-- Source: Brockmeier --> {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == {{Original}} *{{source|url=http://lukasblakk.com/more-reasons-to-support-the-ada-initiative/ |title=More reasons to support the Ada Initiative |author=Lukas Blakk |pub=Lukasblakk.com |date=March 22, 2012 }} *{{source|url=http://tech.li/2012/03/sponsors-pull-out-of-boston-api-jam-over-sqoots-sexist-event-copy/ |title=Sponsors Pull Out of Boston API Jam Over Sqoot’s Sexist Event Copy |author=Kathryn Hough |pub=Techli |date=March 20, 2012 }} *{{source|url=http://storify.com/techladymafia/boston-api-jam-s-marketing-problem |title=Boston API Jam's "marketing" problem |author=tech ladymafia |pub=Storify |date=March 20, 2012 }} *{{source|url=http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/2012/03/how-casual-sexism-put-sqoot-in.php |title=How Casual Sexism Put Sqoot in the Hotseat |author=Joe Brockmeier |pub=ReadWrite |date=March 20, 2012 }} *{{source|url=http://siliconangle.com/blog/2012/03/20/boston-api-jam-misogyny-ways-leads-to-sponsor-exodus/ |title=Boston API Jam’s Misogynistic Ad Copy Leads to Sponsor Exodus |author=Alex Williams |pub=SiliconANGLE |date=March 20, 2012 }} *{{source|url=http://blog.sqoot.com/we-can-do-better-an-apology-from-sqoot |title=We Can Do Better: An Apology from Sqoot |author= |pub=Sqoot |date=March 20, 2012 }} *{{source|url=http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/2012/03/how-casual-sexism-put-sqoot-in.php |title=How Casual Sexism Put Sqoot in the Hotseat |author=Joe Brockmeier |pub=ReadWrite |date=March 20, 2012 }} *{{source|url=http://www.sqoot.com/ |title=Sqoot |author= |pub=Sqoot |date=2012 }} *{{source|url=http://blog.sqoot.com/sqoot-makes-you-yelp |title=Sqoot Makes You Yelp! |author=Avand Amiri |pub=Sqoot |date=October 25, 2011 }} *{{source|url=http://blog.sqoot.com/sqoot-goes-topless-12839 |title=Sqoot Goes Topless |author=Avand Amiri |pub=Sqoot |date=September 26, 2011 }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:Computing]] [[Category:Economy and business]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:North America]] [[Category:Massachusetts]] [[Category:Boston, Massachusetts]] rlgwfe10iqi2eekc1ei4006hts20oq8 0 401441 5007979 4825601 2026-04-14T11:08:41Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007979 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|March 29, 2012}} {{United States infobox}} [[Sandra Fluke]], [[Chelsea Clinton]], and Speaker of the [[New York City]] {{w|New York City Council|Council}} {{w|Christine Quinn}} were among the guests who discussed the role of women in politics at the {{w|92nd Street Y}} in [[New York City]] yesterday evening. The forum was co-hosted by ''{{w|Glamour (magazine)|Glamour}}'' magazine. {{multiple image |align=left | width = 100 | footer = [[Sandra Fluke]], [[Chelsea Clinton]], and {{w|Christine Quinn}} discussed women in politics at the {{w|92nd Street Y}} in [[New York City]]. | image1 = 2012 February 16 Sandra Fluke cropped.png | alt1 = Sandra Fluke | caption1 = [[Sandra Fluke]] {{Image source|U.S. Congressional Oversight Committee, Democratic Party (2012)}} | image2 = Chelsea Clinton microphone Philadelphia 2008.JPG | alt2 = Chelsea Clinton | caption2 = [[Chelsea Clinton]] {{Image source|[[commons:User:KyleCassidy|Kyle Cassidy]] (2008)}} | image3 = 2010 February 23 Christine Quinn cropped.jpg | alt3 = Christine Quinn | caption3 = {{w|Christine Quinn}} {{Image source|{{w|Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs}} (2010)}} }} Clinton led the panel; Fluke and Quinn were joined by additional panelists including the communications chief to former President {{w|George W. Bush}}, {{w|Nicolle Wallace}}; Abby Huntsman Livingston, daughter of former Republican presidential candidate and past governor of {{w|Utah}} and [[United States]] Ambassador to {{w|China}} {{w|Jon Huntsman, Jr.|Jon Huntsman}}; the President of {{w|EMILY's List}}, Stephanie Schriock; and news anchor {{w|Amy Holmes}}. {{QuoteRight|I want women to see this as an empowering moment.|4=[[Sandra Fluke]]}} Fluke remarked upon the slew of media reactions to her February 23 U.S. Congressional testimony about {{w|women's health}} and {{w|contraception}}, "One of the things I was really concerned about when ... verbal attacks began was what kind of message this was going to send to young women... I was worried they would think, 'I should sit down and shut up, because if I speak out, this is what happens' ... I want women to see this as an empowering moment." Wallace commented that women should be inspired to work in government due to a motivation of {{w|public service}}, "If you were asked, 'Will you serve?' you'd say, 'Of course!'... Part of the problem is that our politics are so sick &mdash; there's very little young women see in our news about the essence of what the office once was, which is, public service." She noted the potential impact of women voters on the upcoming {{w|United States presidential election, 2012|2012 U.S. presidential election}}, "Women don't vote in a bloc, but they are the largest percentage of independent voters". {{QuoteLeft|Until my mother ran for president, I wasn’t fully cognizant of how few women run for office and how few women hold office|4=[[Chelsea Clinton]]}} Clinton pointed out that the United States is joined by the country of {{w|Turkmenistan}} for 78th place in a ranking of the proportion of female members of the federal government. She noted, "Until my mother ran for president, I wasn’t fully cognizant of how few women run for office and how few women hold office". Quinn informed the panel that when she initially decided to attempt to become Speaker of the New York City Council, critics told her why she would fail, "Because I was from the west side of Manhattan, cause I was too liberal, because I was a woman, because I was a lesbian, all things I knew when I woke up that morning, you know what I’m saying." She asserted that politics in New York need not be tied to a particular politician's sex, and stated, "the sky is the limit in New York." Schriock emphasized there are indeed women placed in federal elections in the U.S., "They're running for office right now in 2012. We have a historic number of women running for the United States Senate". She posed the question of how to ensure these candidates succeed in their elections. Wallace admitted that she authored novels ''It's Classified'' and ''Eighteen Acres'' as a cathartic form of expressing herself after viewing the pressures [[Hillary Clinton]], [[Sarah Palin]], and [[Michelle Obama]] experienced in the media during the {{w|United States presidential election, 2008|2008 campaign cycle}}. "I was so scarred by 2008 I made up an imaginary world". {{HYS}} ==Related news== *{{wikinews|title=Sandra Fluke insists she will not be silenced|date=March 14, 2012}} == Sister links == __NOTOC__ {{sisters |wikisource|Author:Sandra Kay Fluke |commons|Sandra Fluke |wikiquote|Sandra Fluke }} == Sources == *{{source|url=http://www.wnyc.org/articles/its-free-country/2012/mar/29/clinton-quinn-and-fluke-ask-where-are-women-wholl-run/|title=Clinton, Quinn and Fluke Ask: Where Are The Women (Who’ll Run)?|author=Brigid Bergin|pub=WNYC|date=March 29, 2012}} *{{source|url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/29/sandra-fluke-nicolle-wallace-christine-quinn-chelsea-clinton-92nd-street-y_n_1387410.html|title=Sandra Fluke, Nicolle Wallace, Chelsea Clinton And More Talk Women In Politics|author=Brenna Cammeron|pub=The Huffington Post|date=March 29, 2012}} ==External links== *{{source|url=http://92yamericanconversation.org/live-webcast-women-candidates/|title=Live Webcast Tonight: Where Are the Women Candidates for 2012?|author=|pub=92nd Street Y|date=March 28, 2012}} *{{source|url=http://www.92y.org/Uptown/Event/Women-in-Politics.aspx?utm_source=92Y_HP&utm_medium=Highlights_CClinton&utm_campaign=Adult_Lectures|title=Running in Heels: Where are the women candidates for 2012, and how can we get more of them?|author=|pub=92nd Street Y|date=March 28, 2012}} *{{source|url=http://www.genconnect.com/lifestyle/running-in-heels-women-candidates-women-in-politics-2012-election/|title=Running in Heels: Where Are the Women Candidates?|author=|pub=GenConnect|date=March 22, 2012}} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:North America]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:Washington, D.C.]] [[Category:New York]] [[Category:New York, New York]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Health]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Abortion]] [[Category:Science and technology]] [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:Education]] [[Category:US Congress]] [[Category:US House of Representatives]] [[Category:US Senate]] [[Category:Hillary Clinton]] [[Category:Sarah Palin]] [[Category:Michelle Obama]] [[Category:Chelsea Clinton]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Sandra Fluke]] re56m4nv1iaeg5k91we0f2rfhuvgand 10 402241 5007998 4611440 2026-04-14T11:09:16Z Koavf 5879 5007998 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=[[Women]]}} {{Infosection|name=Related stories| <DynamicPageList> category=Published addfirstcategorydate=true notcategory=Disputed stablepages=only suppresserrors=true count=5 </DynamicPageList>}} [[File:Woman Montage (1).jpg|200px|center|Women]] <div class="center">More information on Women at Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:</div> * [[w:Women|Women]] * [[w:Women's rights|Women's rights]] * [[w:Women's health|Women's health]] * [[w:Portal:Feminism|Feminism portal]] <!--{{InfosectionEnd}}--> {{InfoboxEnd}}<includeonly>{{#if:{{{nocat|}}}||[[Category:Women]]}}</includeonly> <noinclude>[[Category:Infoboxes|Women]] </noinclude> 45o3vyz3q5j5u2xfau0t4ss8n2x34ua 5007999 5007998 2026-04-14T11:09:44Z Koavf 5879 5007999 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=Women}} {{Infosection|name=Related stories| <DynamicPageList> category=Published addfirstcategorydate=true notcategory=Disputed stablepages=only suppresserrors=true count=5 </DynamicPageList>}} [[File:Woman Montage (1).jpg|200px|center|Women]] <div class="center">More information on Women at Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:</div> * [[w:Women|Women]] * [[w:Women's rights|Women's rights]] * [[w:Women's health|Women's health]] * [[w:Portal:Feminism|Feminism portal]] <!--{{InfosectionEnd}}--> {{InfoboxEnd}}<includeonly>{{#if:{{{nocat|}}}||[[Category:Women]]}}</includeonly> <noinclude>[[Category:Infoboxes|Women]] </noinclude> 58fidpd2o9wp69f5k00sjnrqll5jyzj 5008000 5007999 2026-04-14T11:10:13Z Koavf 5879 5008000 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=Women}} {{Infosection|name=Related stories| <DynamicPageList> category=Published addfirstcategorydate=true notcategory=Disputed stablepages=only suppresserrors=true count=5 </DynamicPageList>}} [[File:Woman Montage (1).jpg|200px|center|Women]] <div class="center">More information on Women at Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:</div> * [[w:Women|Women]] * [[w:Women's rights|Women's rights]] * [[w:Women's health|Women's health]] * [[w:Portal:Feminism|Feminism portal]] <!--{{InfosectionEnd}}--> {{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude>[[Category:Infoboxes|Women]]</noinclude> ayzvdsrfo10lstvmgsa11f7m74zz8ez 0 402271 5007976 4825598 2026-04-14T11:08:40Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007976 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|March 30, 2012}} {{Infobox Women's rights}} [[Women's rights]] advocate and {{w|Georgetown University}} law student [[Sandra Fluke]] has been named as a candidate for ''[[Time (magazine)|Time]]'' magazine's 100 most influential people in the world. The list is released annually as a special edition of ''Time'' magazine, titled ''{{w|Time 100}}''. [[File:The Testimony Chairman Issa Doesn't Want You to Hear.ogv|thumb|left|[[Sandra Fluke]] reading her prepared testimony {{Image source|media=video|Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, Democratic Party (2012)}}]] ''Time'' announced the candidates as part of a ballot process which began Thursday, and solicited votes from the public via the [[Internet]]. Visitors to its website were requested to select "the leaders, artists, innovators, icons and heroes that they think are the most influential people in the world." The winner of the poll as selected by visitors to the ''Time'' website will be featured in the ''Time 100'' issue, and the magazine's editors pick those individuals showcased on the actual complete list of 100. {{QuoteRight|I would do this again, because these issues are that important to me.|4=[[Sandra Fluke]]}} In its entry for Fluke, ''Time'' characterized her as a "law student and political activist". She gave testimony to the [[US Congress]] on February 23 before the {{w|House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee}} on a hearing about {{w|women's health}} and {{w|contraception}}. When contacted by ''Time'', Fluke commented that though she has faced attacks in the media, she did not regret her actions: "I would do this again, because these issues are that important to me." In addition to Sandra Fluke, other influential [[women]] named as candidates for the ''Time 100'' list include [[Queen Elizabeth II]]; comedian and {{w|The Ellen DeGeneres Show|talk show host}} {{w|Ellen DeGeneres}}; musicians {{w|Lady Gaga}}, {{w|Adele (singer)|Adele}}, {{w|Jessica Simpson}} and {{w|Lana Del Rey}}; ''{{w|Portlandia (TV series)|Portlandia}}'' creator and star {{w|Carrie Brownstein}}; and actresses {{w|Kristen Wiig}} and {{w|Melissa McCarthy}} of the film ''{{w|Bridesmaids (2011 film)|Bridesmaids}}''. Online voting for the poll winner closes April 6; ''Time'' will release the full list of ''Time 100'' on April 17. {{HYS}} ==Related news== *{{wikinews|title=Sandra Fluke, Chelsea Clinton and Christine Quinn on women in politics|date=March 29, 2012}} *{{wikinews|title=Sandra Fluke insists she will not be silenced|date=March 14, 2012}} == Sister links == __NOTOC__ {{sisters |wikisource|Author:Sandra Kay Fluke |commons|Sandra Fluke |wikiquote|Sandra Fluke }} == Sources == *{{source|url=http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/time-100-most-influential-people-ballot-includes-limbaugh-163320813.html|title=Time 100 Most Influential People ballot includes Limbaugh, Fluke, Lin, Tebow|author=Dylan Stableford|pub=Yahoo! News|date=March 29, 2012}} *{{source|url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/29/molly-katchpole-time-magazine_n_1387997.html|title=Molly Katchpole, Who Battled Bank Of America, Is In The Running For Time's 'Top 100'|author=|pub=The Huffington Post|date=March 29, 2012}} *{{source|url=http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2107952_2107953_2109606,00.html|title=Sandra Fluke - The 2012 TIME 100 Poll|author=TIME Staff|pub=Time (magazine)|date=March 29, 2012}} ==External links== *{{source|url=http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/0,28757,2107952,00.html|title=The 2012 TIME 100 Poll|author=|pub=Time (magazine)|date=March 29, 2012}} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:North America]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:New York]] [[Category:New York, New York]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Health]] [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:Democratic Party (United States)]] [[Category:Internet]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Science and technology]] [[Category:Education]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:US Congress]] [[Category:US House of Representatives]] [[Category:Sandra Fluke]] [[Category:Magazines]] [[Category:Georgetown University]] [[Category:Time (magazine)]] oztbbx106kiirlrwn6s5behdkfn4ul6 0 404394 5007949 4817949 2026-04-14T11:08:30Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007949 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|April 2, 2012}} {{Infobox Women's rights}} {{w|Genieve Blackwell}} has become the third woman {{w|Anglican}} bishop in {{w|Australia}} and the 31st in the world. On Saturday, Blackwell was consecrated in {{w|St Saviour's Cathedral, Goulburn}} in the state of {{w|New South Wales}} (NSW), Australia as the Regional Bishop of {{w|Wagga Wagga}}. She was first ordained nineteen years ago. [[File:GoulburnStSaviour'sCathedral.jpg|thumb|left|{{w|St Saviour's Cathedral, Goulburn}} in 2006. {{Image source|[[commons:user talk: Matilda| Matilda]]}}]] {{QuoteRight|It is a great thing that the gifts of women are being recognised and confirmed|4={{w|Genieve Blackwell}} }} Blackwell is quoted as saying "It is a great thing that the gifts of women are being recognised and confirmed”. The appointment is controversial because the Anglican Archbishop of Sydney and Metropolitan of the Province of NSW, Peter Jensen, whose role it is to lead the service, opposes the ordination of female bishops. Jensen asked the Bishop of Newcastle to represent him at the service. The Diocese of Sydney does not agree with most of the rest of the country’s dioceses, so there were no Sydney bishops present among the 18 who consecrated Blackwell. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source|url=http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/jensen-begs-off-as-deputy-consecrates-woman-bishop-20120330-1w3ha.html#ixzz1qrmbwChY |title=Jensen begs off as deputy consecrates woman bishop |author=Malcolm Brown |pub=The Sydney Morning Herald |date=31 March 2012 }} *{{source|url=http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-31/nsw-anglican-church-consecrates-female-bishop/3925138 |title=First female Anglican bishop for NSW, ACT |author=Elizabeth Byrne |pub=ABC News |date=2 April 2012 }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Australia]] [[Category:Christianity]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Oceania]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:Anglicanism]] [[Category:New South Wales]] dqreimcfuymsw6sjmmvlyrxkiqhwmni 0 421036 5007943 4816806 2026-04-14T11:08:27Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007943 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|April 23, 2012}} {{Mexico}} {{missing image|File:Frida Kahlo by Artist René Romero Schuler.jpg|left|thumb|Frida Kahlo is an oil painting on canvas by Artist René Romero Schuler.{{Image source|Tom Dupuis}}}} According to a new diagnosis by a surgical pathologist, {{w|Frida Kahlo}} most likely suffered {{w|uterine}} damage during a streetcar accident as a teenager and this led to a rare condition known as {{w|Asherman's syndrome}}, and that would explain the [[Mexico|Mexican]] artist's {{w|infertility}}. Dr. Fernando Antelo, from the {{w|Harbor–UCLA Medical Center}}, said, "Her survival defied the grim prognostication by her physicians; however, complications from this physical trauma would emerge in her adulthood." He presented his diagnosis yesterday at the annual meeting of the {{w|American Association of Anatomists}} in San Diego. Asherman's syndrome is normally caused by a trauma to the uterus that results in internal scar tissue. For example, it can occur after multiple procedures to clear the uterus after a {{w|miscarriage}} or [[abortion]], which is known as a {{w|dilatation and curettage|"D & C"}} procedure. Antelo said Kahlo tried to have children many times and her miscarriages, as well as three therapeutic abortions, could have further aggravated the scarring. At present the condition could be diagnosed and treated after advancements in {{w|medical imaging}} and {{w|hysteroscopy}}, but in Kahlo's time, Dr. Antelo said, the technology had not advanced far enough to diagnose and treat her. Asherman's syndrome has been known since 1894 when it was first reported. Kahlo died at age 47 in 1954. "She kept attempting to have children with a uterus that wasn't in any condition to do that," Antelo said. Antelo, who has been working on connections between art and medicine, says that Kahlo brought her infertility to the canvas and this can be seen in her many paintings of reproductive organs or in her depiction of her own {{w|hemorrhaging|bleeding}} body in the 1932 painting ''Henry Ford Hospital''. In that image, Kahlo is shown lying on a hospital bed with multiple umbilical cords extending from her body and each one holds an object or body part, except one holding a baby. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source|url=http://vitals.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/22/11311488-doc-solves-mystery-of-frida-kahlos-infertility?lite |title=Doc solves mystery of Frida Kahlo’s infertility |author=Rita Rubin |pub=MSNBC |date=April 22, 2012 }} *{{source|url=http://www.newswise.com/articles/a-new-diagnosis-for-frida-kahlo-s-infertility |title=A New Diagnosis for Frida Kahlo’s Infertility |author= Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology |pub=Newswise |date=April 21, 2012 }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:Mexico]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:North America]] [[Category:Visual art]] [[Category:Art]] [[Category:Health]] [[Category:Science and technology]] [[Category:Crtew (Wikinewsie)]] [[Category:Paintings]] [[Category:UCLA Medical Center]] bbtq6hyvl9o8i4uw1d6zfo5e1wdh9en 0 422256 5007982 4825600 2026-04-14T11:08:42Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007982 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|April 25, 2012}} {{Infobox Women's rights}} [[Women's rights]] advocate and {{w|Georgetown University}} law student [[Sandra Fluke]] was recognized Sunday, April 22 with the ''Stand Up for Choice Award''. Fluke was given the ''Stand Up for Choice Award'' at the "Third Annual Multi-Generational Brunch" of the organization {{w|NARAL Pro-Choice America}} which was held in [[New York City]] (NYC), [[New York]] in the [[United States]]. [[File:The Testimony Chairman Issa Doesn't Want You to Hear.ogv|thumb|left|[[Sandra Fluke]] reading her prepared testimony {{Image source|media=video|Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, Democratic Party (2012)}}]] {{QuoteRight|Sandra is a remarkable leader and a true hero in the reproductive-rights community.|4={{w|Nancy Keenan}}, NARAL President}} The organization's president, {{w|Nancy Keenan}}, attended the event and had previously spoken in favor of Fluke in a press release announcing the award. "Sandra is a remarkable leader and a true hero in the reproductive-rights community. This event brings together women and men from many generations, and the one thing that unites us all is the personal stories that are the reason for our joining this cause. Without a doubt, many people have witnessed Sandra's strength over these last few weeks and have been inspired to join her in standing up for women's freedom and privacy." Chair of the NARAL Pro-Choice America’s Future Direction Committee Amanda Hirsh released a statement in support of Fluke saying, "we are thrilled to honor Sandra Fluke with the ''Stand Up For Choice Award'' at this year's multi-generational brunch. Attempts to silence voices like Sandra's have failed. Young leaders across the country are looking to Sandra as an inspiration." {{QuoteLeft|I was honored to receive it! Thank you! I'm very humbled by the inspiring stories women told of their own lives.|4=[[s:Author:Sandra Kay Fluke|Sandra Fluke]]}} Fluke responded to a post on {{w|Twitter}} from NARAL congratulating her on receiving the award, stating, "I was honored to receive it! Thank you! I'm very humbled by the inspiring stories women told of their own lives." Fluke received a nomination in March as a candidate for ''{{w|Time (magazine)|Time}}'' magazine's 100 most influential people in the world. The list is released annually as a special edition of ''Time'' magazine, titled ''{{w|Time 100}}''. She gave testimony to the [[US Congress]] on February 23 before the {{w|House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee}} on a hearing about {{w|women's health}} and {{w|contraception}}. She also worked for Sanctuary for Families in NYC which worked to crackdown on human trafficking and domestic violence. {{HYS}} ==Related news== *{{wikinews|title=Sandra Fluke named candidate for Time's 100 most influential people|date=March 30, 2012}} *{{wikinews|title=Sandra Fluke, Chelsea Clinton and Christine Quinn on women in politics|date=March 29, 2012}} *{{wikinews|title=Sandra Fluke insists she will not be silenced|date=March 14, 2012}} == Sister links == __NOTOC__ {{sisters |wikisource|Author:Sandra Kay Fluke |commons|Sandra Fluke |wikiquote|Sandra Fluke }} == Sources == {{Original reporting}} *{{source|url=http://twitter.com/#!/SandraFluke/status/194180451320070144|title=@NARAL I was honored to receive it!|author=[[s:Author:Sandra Kay Fluke|Sandra Fluke]]|pub=Twitter|date=April 22, 2012}} *{{source|url=http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/donate/special-events/ny-fdc-brunch-2012.html|title=Third Annual Multi-Generational Brunch|author=|pub=NARAL|date=April 22, 2012}} *{{source|url=http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/media/press-releases/2012/pr03222012_fluke.html|title=NARAL Pro-Choice America to Honor Sandra Fluke at Third Annual Multi-Generational Brunch|author=|pub=NARAL|date=March 22, 2012}} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:North America]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:New York]] [[Category:New York, New York]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Health]] [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:Democratic Party (United States)]] [[Category:Internet]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Science and technology]] [[Category:Education]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:US Congress]] [[Category:US House of Representatives]] [[Category:Sandra Fluke]] [[Category:Georgetown University]] ptftjp4h1u6aigd1s0vp7n4oram3gag 0 479655 5007991 4829863 2026-04-14T11:08:45Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007991 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Wikimedia Foundation}} {{Wikimediamention}} {{date|July 14, 2012}} [[File:Mary Gardiner.jpg|left|thumb|Mary Gardiner gave the keynote speech at Wikimania 2012 in Washington, D.C.{{image|Andrew Bennetts}}]][[File:Google Reception, Wikimania 2012 P1160597.JPG|left|thumb|Jimmy Wales addresses attendees of Wikimania 2012 at the {{w|Library of Congress}}.{{image credit|User:Deror Avi}}]][[File:Shujenchang and Jimmy Wales.JPG|left|thumb|Chinese language contributor Shang Zhang meets Jimmy Wales at the Library of Congress.{{image credit|User:Shujenchang}}]]Community leaders at the {{w|Wikimania 2012}} conference, which is largely attended by Wikipedians and volunteers from other [[Wikimedia Foundation]] projects, focused attention on diversity within the projects and specifically on the inclusion of women, people who come from developing countries, and those people who, while not tech geeks, are potential contributors. Wikipedia is the fifth top web site visited on the {{w|internet}}, according to Wales. {{w|Mary Gardiner}}, co-founder of the {{w|Ada Initiative}}, delivered the opening address, where she encouraged conference participants to think about how they could be more inclusive, especially toward women, in their work. She is the first woman ever to give an opening address at a Wikimania conference. The conferences have been held annually since 2005. [[Jimmy Wales]], co-founder of [[Wikipedia]], echoed the theme of diversity in his remarks during his annual State of the Wiki address and expanded on [[Africa]] and including more people who are not technically savvy. Participants from 87 countries gathered in {{w|Lisner Auditorium}} on the campus of {{w|George Washington University}}, [[Washington, D.C.]] for the opening session on Thursday morning. Mary Gardiner focused on the lack of gender diversity within the Wikipedia community. She said reader and editor surveys have shown that while over one third of the readers of Wikipedia are women, the number of women who are editors is around 10 to 15 percent in the English Wikipedia and as low as 8.5 percent for all Wikipedias. "As a project of social change, even if it's not an activist project, the Wikipedia community has a responsibility both to its mission and to the people out there in the world to always be on a journey toward diversity &mdash; to increase the size of the umbrella of the world", Gardiner said. The Ada Initiative, co-founded by Gardiner, encourages women's involvement in open source projects like Wikipedia, {{w|open-source software}}, and {{w|open government}}. Prior to the conference, the Ada Initiative sponsored an AdaCamp where women shared their experiences across these projects. Gardiner, who is a graduate student in Computational Linguistics, delivered the keynote, entitled "Fostering diversity: not a boring chore, a critical opportunity." Gardiner said Wikipedia should not only increase diversity because it would be good for the community to have more voices, but also the community should reach out with sincerity and both engage and hear women's voices and be open to change from their contributions. Jimmy Wales recommended Wikipedians "reexamine [their] premises." As an example, he asked them to consider article topics that other audiences who are not currently being served well could find meaningful. He became involved in a deletion debate about whether {{w|Kate Middleton|Kate Middleton's}} {{w|Wedding dress of Kate Middleton|wedding dress}} was worthy of an article. He contrasted this topic choice with the large number of obscure pages about {{w|Linux}} and asked the audience to consider why important fashion events could be of interest to a different audience with other interests. He said if Wikipedia is not providing content for this audience, they will go elsewhere to create and read that content. Gardiner also said when women or another subculture focus on their identity it can actually create a stronger Wikipedian identity. "The more you encourage people retain parts of their identity that are important to them, in my case as a woman, the more you enhance their other identity as a Wikipedian... You can encourage both identities by allowing minorities to acknowledge and embrace that they are a member of a minority." Wikipedia has encouraged the development of subcultures through the creation of chapters, portals, and even individualized user boxes. Jimmy Wales, on a personal note, announced that he and his partner had named their daughter Ada after {{w|Ada Lovelace}}, who Gardiner had explained to the audience is considered the first software programmer and was an inspiration for the Ada Initiative. Gardiner credits her fellow Ada Initiative co-founder Valerie Aurora, executive director, for naming the organization after Lovelace. Wales devoted a large portion of his speech to Wikipedia's footprint in Africa. Wikipedia is currently offered in 285 languages and of African languages, {{w|Yorùbá}}, {{w|Swahili}}, and {{w|Afrikaans}} are the largest. Wales described how in a one month period in 2011 Yorùbá jumped to first in the number of articles. Yorùbá Wikipedia User:Demmy created a bot that added 15,000 articles to the language in one month and his activity doubled the number of active editors to about four. Wales presented the second annual "Jimbo Award" to User:Demmy for his contribution to the Yorùbá language version of Wikipedia. Wales said the Wikimedia Foundation's mobile initiative would be an important part of bringing people from developing countries to Wikipedia and would even offer new editing tools for the community worldwide. New software is in development that could also expand the number of editors of Wikipedia. [[Sue Gardner]], executive director of the Wikimedia Foundation, announced that Wikimedia Foundation is currently testing its Visual Editor Software that she says will make it as easy to edit Wikipedia as it is to update the status on a person's [[Facebook]] account. "Editing is unnecessarily difficult," Gardner said. "We're using an older technology. And it's an open-source environment and developers of that kind of software are not typically dedicated to design and usability issues" but to solving technical problems. Wikimania is an international event and past conferences have been held in [[Frankfurt]], [[Germany]]; [[Boston]], [[USA]]; {{w|Taipei}}, [[Taiwan]]; [[Alexandria]], [[Egypt]]; [[Buenos Aires]], [[Argentina]]; [[Gdańsk]], [[Poland]]; and [[Haifa]], [[Israel]]. Next year's Wikimania is to be held in [[Hong Kong]], [[China]]. The main conference has attracted over 1,000 participants and will be open through July 14. {{haveyoursay|What can Wiki projects do to become more diverse?}} ==Related news== *{{wikinews|title=Wikimania 2012 announces Mary Gardiner as keynote speaker|date=March 23, 2012}} == Sources == {{original}} *{{source|url=http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Schedule |title=Schedule |author= |pub=Wikimania 2012 |date=July 12, 2012 (Access Date) }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Washington, D.C.]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:North America]] [[Category:Australia]] [[Category:Africa]] [[Category:Wikipedia]] [[Category:Wikimania]] [[Category:Jimmy Wales]] [[Category:Sue Gardner]] [[Category:Internet]] [[Category:Science and technology]] [[Category:Crtew (Wikinewsie)]] [[Category:Wikimedia Foundation]] 7qulskmni1cb7m6vi1v0zaue26ztibf 10 490433 5007578 4846012 2026-04-13T13:19:55Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]] 5007578 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=[[2012 Summer Olympics]]}} </br></br> [[File:Olympic Rings - Tower Bridge 2.jpg|center|180px|border]]</br></br> {{Infosection|name=Newest 2012 Olympic stories| * [[British singer George Michael, 53, dies]] * [[Ten killed in helicopter crash in Argentina, French Olympians among the dead]] * [[Australian swimmer Steph Rice announces retirement]] * [[Dibaba’s comeback: Long-distance track star wins her first World Championship title since 2007]] * [[Wikinews interviews Spain's most decorated Paralympian, Teresa Perales]]}} <div style="text-align: right;"><small>...[[:Category:2012 Summer Olympics|More articles here]]</small></div> <div style="float: center; text-align: center;"> <div class="center">{{click|image=Olympic rings.svg|center|width=60px|height=45px|link=:Category:2012 Summer Olympics}}</div> </div style="float: center; text-align: center;"> <!--{{InfosectionEnd}}--> {{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude>[[Category:Event infoboxes|2012 Summer Olympics]]</noinclude> 6llts0qoq2sggw4d8i5pvujskxj94ng 10 504757 5007555 4613906 2026-04-13T12:54:30Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]] 5007555 wikitext text/x-wiki {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=[[2012 Summer Paralympics]]}}{{#if:{{{short|}}} |<div class="center">{{click|image=IPC logo (2004).svg |center|width=60px|height=45px|link=:Category:2012 Summer Paralympics}}</div> |<br />[[File:Trafalgar Square, London - London 2012 - countdown clock.jpg|center|180px|border]]<br />}}<!-- If the 'short' parameter is used, put the logo up-top, and suppress the image -->{{Infosection|name=Newest 2012 Paralympic stories| * [[Belgian men's goalball team departs for Finland for World Championships]] * [[Medal-seeking Spanish men arrive at 2014 Goalball World Championships]] * [[Wikinews interviews Australian wheelchair basketball player Tina McKenzie]] * [[Wikinews interviews Spanish Paralympic swimmer Deborah Font]] * [[Wikinews interviews Spanish Paralympic swimmer Marta Gómez]]}} <small><div style="text-align: right;">...[[:Category:2012 Summer Paralympics|More articles here]]</div style></small> {{#if:{{{short|}}}| |<div style="float: center; text-align: center;"> <div class="center">{{click|image=IPC logo (2004).svg |center|width=60px|height=45px|link=:Category:2012 Summer Paralympics}}</div> </div style="float: center; text-align: center;">}}<!-- If the 'short' parameter is used, the logo is up-top, and can be suppressed here --><!--{{InfosectionEnd}}--> {{InfoboxEnd}}<noinclude>[[Category:Event infoboxes|2012 Summer Paralympics]]</noinclude> qayah3ihaz75l5nktikx7oh2hf0zf6s 0 523595 5007975 4825595 2026-04-14T11:08:39Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007975 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Audio box 2|filename=EN-Sandra Fluke featured speaker at Democratic National Convention.ogg|text=Listen to this article|date=2012-09-07}} {{date|September 7, 2012}} {{Infobox Women's rights}} [[Women's rights]] advocate and {{w|Georgetown University Law Center}} graduate [[Sandra Fluke]] was a featured speaker Wednesday at the {{w|2012 Democratic National Convention}} in {{w|Charlotte, North Carolina}}. [[File:2012 May 8 Sandra Fluke and friend cropped to collar.jpg|thumb|left|[[Sandra Fluke]] (2012) {{Image source|[http://www.flickr.com/people/81711099@N04 nmogburn]}}]] Fluke spoke to attendees at the convention about the consequences for {{w|women}} of electing {{w|Republican Party (United States)|Republican}} candidate for {{w|President of the United States|U.S. President}}, {{w|Mitt Romney}}, over incumbent President {{w|Barack Obama}}. Fluke has campaigned with President Obama in his bid for re-election. {{QuoteRight|I'm here because I spoke out, and this November, each of us must speak out.|4=[[wikisource:Author:Sandra Kay Fluke|Sandra Fluke]]}} She encouraged listeners to her speech to use their vote for the next U.S. President as a voice, stating, "I'm here because I spoke out, and this November, each of us must speak out." Fluke contrasted possible scenarios which could result from a Republican-controlled {{w|The White House|White House}} with that of President Obama's administration's support of women's issues, and commented, "During this campaign, we've heard about the two profoundly different futures that could await women -- and how one of those futures looks like an offensive, obsolete relic of our past." {{QuoteLeft|During this campaign, we've heard about the two profoundly different futures that could await women -- and how one of those futures looks like an offensive, obsolete relic of our past.|4=[[wikisource:Author:Sandra Kay Fluke|Sandra Fluke]]}} She concluded her remarks by asserting that Mitt Romney would not place emphasis on women's rights, observing, "And six months from now, we'll all be living in one, or the other. But only one. A country where our president either has our back or turns his back." Fluke's speech was well received throughout by the audience, and garnered her a {{w|standing ovation}} from the crowd. After her speech, Fluke took to [[Twitter]] to thank convention participants for the positive reaction she received, tweeting, "#DNC2012, THANK YOU for such a warm welcome! But thank you more for standing for #women!" She was recognized April 22 with the ''Stand Up for Choice Award''. Fluke was given the ''Stand Up for Choice Award'' at the "Third Annual Multi-Generational Brunch" of the organization {{w|NARAL Pro-Choice America}} which was held in [[New York City]] (NYC), [[New York]] in the [[United States]]. Fluke received a nomination in March as a candidate for ''{{w|Time (magazine)|Time}}'' magazine's 100 most influential people in the world. The list is released annually as a special edition of ''Time'' magazine, titled ''{{w|Time 100}}''. She gave testimony to the [[US Congress]] on February 23 before the {{w|House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee}} on a hearing about {{w|women's health}} and {{w|contraception}}. She also worked for Sanctuary for Families in NYC which worked to crackdown on [[human trafficking]] and domestic violence. {{HYS}} ==Related news== *{{wikinews|title=Sandra Fluke receives Stand Up for Choice Award|date=April 25, 2012}} *{{wikinews|title=Sandra Fluke named candidate for Time's 100 most influential people|date=March 30, 2012}} *{{wikinews|title=Sandra Fluke, Chelsea Clinton and Christine Quinn on women in politics|date=March 29, 2012}} *{{wikinews|title=Sandra Fluke insists she will not be silenced|date=March 14, 2012}} == Sister links == __NOTOC__ {{sisters |wikisource|Author:Sandra Kay Fluke |commons|Sandra Fluke |wikiquote|Sandra Fluke }} == Sources == {{Original reporting}} *{{source|url=http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iJV6CHhHl4zHbuzmloAxvUYQlvhQ?docId=CNG.ef5382a2ab269e7c0384ee8e632e9728.161|title=US women's advocate slams 'obsolete' Republicans|author=|pub=Agence France-Presse|date=September 5, 2012}} *{{source|url=http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/09/06/usa-campaign-fluke-idINL2E8K60I720120906|title=For health activist Fluke, an emphatic endorsement of Obama|author=|pub=Reuters|date=September 5, 2012}} *{{source|url=http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ivKMFAXjmC2D8xDH58qJvujQlw0A?docId=e6b42db254e948e98a4a5e5caa9adf71|title=Women's rights leader sends alarm on health |author=|pub=Associated Press|date=September 5, 2012}} ==External links== ;Speech transcript *{{source|url=http://leanforward.msnbc.com/_news/2012/09/06/13703188-sandra-fluke-a-choice-between-two-futures?lite|title=Sandra Fluke: A choice between two futures|author=[[wikisource:Author:Sandra Kay Fluke|Sandra Fluke]]|pub=MSNBC|date=September 6, 2012}} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:North America]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:New York]] [[Category:New York, New York]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Health]] [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:Democratic Party (United States)]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Education]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:US Congress]] [[Category:US House of Representatives]] [[Category:Sandra Fluke]] [[Category:Georgetown University]] 248aqoqc4lrxji8cyvqfr9rcf5g8ts1 0 604989 5007978 4825599 2026-04-14T11:08:41Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007978 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|November 30, 2012}} {{Infobox Women's rights}} [[Women's rights]] advocate and {{w|Georgetown University Law Center}} graduate [[Sandra Fluke]] has been named as a candidate by ''{{w|Time (magazine)|Time}}'' magazine for their ''[[Time Person of the Year|Person of the Year]]''. [[File:2012 May 8 Sandra Fluke and friend cropped to collar.jpg|thumb|left|[[Sandra Fluke]] (2012) {{Image source|[http://www.flickr.com/people/81711099@N04 nmogburn]}}]] Sandra Fluke was the focus of media in February after attempting to testify before a [[Republican party (United States)|Republican]]-controlled committee in the [[United States House of Representatives]] about {{w|contraception}} and {{w|women's health}}. Kate Pickert of ''Time'' wrote in her profile, "Fluke ... weathered the attention with poise and maturity and emerged as a political celebrity." {{QuoteRight|Fluke ... weathered the attention with poise and maturity and emerged as a political celebrity.|4={{w|Time (magazine)|''Time''}} magazine}} ''Time'' concluded Fluke helped give U.S. President {{w|Barack Obama}} an edge in {{w|2012 United States presidential election|his presidential re-election campaign}}: "Democrats gave her a national-convention speaking slot as part of their push to make reproductive rights a central issue in the 2012 presidential campaign — one that helped Barack Obama trounce Mitt Romney among single women on Election Day." {{QuoteLeft|Honored to be listed for Time's Person of Year.|4=[[Sandra Fluke]]}} Fluke responded to the nomination via [[Twitter]], and stated she was "Honored to be listed for Time's Person of Year". In the same statement she also drew attention to the scarcity of [[women]] on the list of candidates. An analysis of Fluke's candidacy by Peter Roff of ''{{w|U.S. News & World Report}}'' called attention to her role in the political phenomenon in the recent election cycle known as the "{{w|War on Women}}" which drew significant attention to issues of [[women's rights]]. Roff gave advice to the Republican party on the way it relates to women, "Once the Republicans become comfortable talking about all issues as though they were women's issues too — issues like unemployment, economic growth, job creation, education, and healthcare as well as the so-called social issues — they will be demonstrating that women have a home in the GOP. Until they do however it will be the Sandra Flukes of the world that continue to carry the day when it counts." Journalist {{w|Leslie Marshall}} observed some conservative political commentators were critical of ''Time'' for its nomination of Fluke for Person of the Year. {{QuoteRight|... she showed true strength over adversity. And she has since become a women's health activist. For these reasons alone, she belongs on this list.|4={{w|Leslie Marshall}} }} Marshall argued Fluke belongs on the list: "She should be credited with reminding women on both the right and the left; that many of us agree on the issue of women's reproductive rights. Although some of us might be Democrats and some Republicans, our gender unites us. She brought more women to the polls, reminding us of the decades it took to be where we are and what was at stake for women if we did not re-elect President Obama. In speaking at the Democratic National Convention, she showed true strength over adversity. And she has since become a women's health activist. For these reasons alone, she belongs on this list." However, Marshall stated she wouldn't be voting for Fluke's candidacy, but would instead cast her ballot for {{w|Malala Yousafzai}}, a 15-year-old {{w|female education}} activist who survived a {{w|Taliban}} {{w|assassination}} attempt. Fluke was a featured speaker on September 5 at the {{w|2012 Democratic National Convention}} in {{w|Charlotte, North Carolina|Charlotte}}, [[North Carolina]]. Fluke spoke to attendees at the convention about the consequences for [[women]] of electing Republican candidate for {{w|President of the United States|U.S. President}}, [[Mitt Romney]], over incumbent President {{w|Barack Obama}}. Fluke has campaigned with President Obama in his bid for re-election. She was recognized April 22 with the ''Stand Up for Choice Award''. Fluke was given the ''Stand Up for Choice Award'' at the "Third Annual Multi-Generational Brunch" of the organization {{w|NARAL Pro-Choice America}} which was held in [[New York City]] (NYC), [[New York]] in the [[United States]]. Fluke received a nomination in March as a candidate for ''{{w|Time (magazine)|Time}}'' magazine's 100 most influential people in the world. The list is released annually as a special edition of ''Time'' magazine, titled ''{{w|Time 100}}''. She gave testimony to the [[US Congress]] on February 23 before the {{w|House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee}} at a hearing about {{w|women's health}} and {{w|contraception}}. She also worked for Sanctuary for Families in NYC which worked to crack down on [[human trafficking]] and domestic violence. {{HYS}} ==Related news== *{{wikinews|title=Sandra Fluke featured speaker at Democratic National Convention|date=September 7, 2012}} *{{wikinews|title=Sandra Fluke receives Stand Up for Choice Award|date=April 25, 2012}} *{{wikinews|title=Sandra Fluke named candidate for Time's 100 most influential people|date=March 30, 2012}} *{{wikinews|title=Sandra Fluke, Chelsea Clinton and Christine Quinn on women in politics|date=March 29, 2012}} *{{wikinews|title=Sandra Fluke insists she will not be silenced|date=March 14, 2012}} == Sister links == __NOTOC__ {{sisters |wikisource|Author:Sandra Kay Fluke |commons|Sandra Fluke |wikiquote|Sandra Fluke }} == Sources == {{Original reporting}} *{{source|url=http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2012/11/29/gop-cant-dismiss-times-sandra-fluke-person-of-the-year-nod|title=Until the GOP Changes, Attention on Sandra Won't Be a Fluke|author=Peter Roff|pub=U.S. News & World Report|date=November 29, 2012}} *{{source|url=http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/leslie-marshall/2012/11/28/sandra-fluke-belongs-on-times-person-of-the-year-list|title=No Fluke That Sandra's On ''Time's'' List|author={{w|Leslie Marshall}}|pub=U.S. News & World Report|date=November 28, 2012}} *{{source|url=https://twitter.com/SandraFluke/statuses/273321609312493568|title=Honored 2 b listed|author={{w|Sandra Fluke}}|pub=Twitter|date=November 26, 2012}} *{{source|url=http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2128881_2128882_2129176,00.html|title=Sandra Fluke - Who Should Be TIME's Person of the Year 2012? - The candidates|author=Kate Pickert|pub=Time (magazine)|date=November 26, 2012}} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:North America]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:New York]] [[Category:New York, New York]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Health]] [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:Democratic Party (United States)]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Education]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:US Congress]] [[Category:US House of Representatives]] [[Category:Sandra Fluke]] [[Category:Time Person of the Year]] [[Category:Magazines]] [[Category:Media]] [[Category:Georgetown University]] [[Category:Malala Yousafzai]] fbcpq0ojgvqttv9rzmpd61la5pb9dpb 0 612200 5007974 4825596 2026-04-14T11:08:39Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007974 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|December 6, 2012}} {{Infobox Women's rights}} [[Women's rights]] advocate and {{w|Georgetown University Law Center}} graduate [[Sandra Fluke]] was the keynote speaker at a {{w|women's health}} event Tuesday night in [[Nebraska]]. [[File:2012 May 8 Sandra Fluke and friend cropped to collar.jpg|thumb|left|[[Sandra Fluke]] (2012) {{Image source|[http://www.flickr.com/people/81711099@N04 nmogburn]}}]] Fluke was the headliner in {{w|Lincoln, Nebraska|Lincoln}}, Nebraska at the Rococo Theatre for the annual fundraiser of Planned Parenthood of the Heartland, titled: "The Big Event: Courage — No Matter What". She currently resides in {{w|Los Angeles, California|Los Angeles}}, {{w|California}} with her fiancé and "Mr. President", their pet dog. After graduating ''{{w|cum laude}}'' with her {{w|J.D.}} degree this past May, Fluke successfully took and passed the {{w|bar exam}} in July and is now an attorney. {{QuoteRight|It’s uplifting and heartening to see how many people really care about the issues I’m talking about.|4=[[s:Author:Sandra Kay Fluke|Sandra Fluke]]}} In an interview with the ''{{w|Lincoln Journal Star}}'', Fluke reflected on her role as a public figure and her ability to contribute to the contribute to the discourse about women's rights, "It's uplifting and heartening to see how many people really care about the issues I’m talking about." Fluke observed, "I think it's also allowed me to give a voice and shine a light on the work that a lot of people are doing." Fluke's speech centered on women's rights, women's healthcare, and the {{w|Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act}}. She stressed the importance of women's issues in the recent election for U.S. President: "This year, something changed in our national conversation about women’s health.... Before my time, women's healthcare has never decided a presidential election. We really did make a difference this election." She spurred on attendees of the event to become more active in supporting women's rights: "It’s time for young women in this country to join the fight, because it’s our rights and our health that are at stake." {{QuoteLeft|She's a voice of reason. I think she has raised the bar for rational conversation about a serious issue.|4=Tari Hendrickson}} Planned Parenthood regional development and planned gifts director Tari Hendrickson told the ''Lincoln Journal Star'' Sandra Fluke was her top choice for keynote speaker at the event: "Sandra was No. 1 on my list; I never had a No. 2. She's a voice of reason. I think she has raised the bar for rational conversation about a serious issue." {{QuoteRight|She is a wonderfully outspoken person on the affordable care act, women's health and women's rights.|4=Susan Allen}} Planned Parenthood of the Heartland Planned Nebraska communications manager Susan Allen told the ''{{w|Daily Nebraskan}}'' Sandra Fluke was the ideal person to serve as keynote speaker: "She is a wonderfully outspoken person on the affordable care act, women's health and women's rights. We decided she would be the perfect person to speak to Planned Parenthood supporters." Planned Parenthood intern and {{w|University of Nebraska-Lincoln}} student Emily Schiltz commented on landing Fluke as the keynote speaker, "She is definitely the biggest person we've had in a long time." "I feel like she walks the walk rather than talk the talk," said Planned Parenthood intern and journalism student Audrey Nance. Fluke indicated her intention was to persevere in speaking about issues she thinks important: "I think my ultimate goal is giving a voice to people who don't always have one." She has been named as a candidate by ''{{w|Time (magazine)|Time}}'' magazine in a November 26 announcement, for their ''{{w|Time Person of the Year|Person of the Year}}''. ''Time'' concluded Fluke helped give U.S. President {{w|Barack Obama}} an edge in {{w|2012 United States presidential election|his presidential re-election campaign}}. Fluke was a featured speaker on September 5 at the {{w|2012 Democratic National Convention}} in {{w|Charlotte, North Carolina|Charlotte}}, {{w|North Carolina}}. Fluke spoke to attendees at the convention about the consequences for {{w|women}} of electing {{w|Republican Party (United States)|Republican}} candidate for {{w|President of the United States|U.S. President}}, {{w|Mitt Romney}}, over incumbent President {{w|Barack Obama}}. Fluke has campaigned with President Obama in his bid for re-election. She was recognized April 22 with the ''Stand Up for Choice Award''. Fluke was given the ''Stand Up for Choice Award'' at the "Third Annual Multi-Generational Brunch" of the organization {{w|NARAL Pro-Choice America}} which was held in [[New York City]] (NYC), [[New York]] in the [[United States]]. Fluke received a nomination in March as a candidate for ''{{w|Time (magazine)|Time}}'' magazine's 100 most influential people in the world. The list is released annually as a special edition of ''Time'' magazine, titled ''{{w|Time 100}}''. She gave testimony to the [[US Congress]] on February 23 before the {{w|House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee}} at a hearing about {{w|women's health}} and {{w|contraception}}. She also worked for Sanctuary for Families in NYC which worked to crack down on [[human trafficking]] and domestic violence. {{HYS}} ==Related news== *{{wikinews|title=Sandra Fluke nominated by Time magazine for Person of the Year|date=November 30, 2012}} == Sister links == __NOTOC__ {{sisters |wikisource|Author:Sandra Kay Fluke |commons|Sandra Fluke |wikiquote|Sandra Fluke }} == Sources == *{{source|url=http://www.dailynebraskan.com/news/article_bb77c1ae-3e99-11e2-ac0c-001a4bcf6878.html|title=Fluke: 'It’s time for young women in this country to join the fight'|author=Kelli Rollin|pub=Daily Nebraskan|date=December 5, 2012}} *{{source|url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/29/six-reasons-we-adore-sand_n_2211553.html|title=Sandra Fluke 'TIME's' Person Of The Year? Six Reasons Why We Love Her |author=Christina Huffington|pub=The Huffington Post|date=December 4, 2012}} *{{source|url=http://journalstar.com/news/local/cindy-lange-kubick-sandra-fluke-coming-to-lincoln/article_b7225a28-d431-50a4-970e-10299d420bb0.html|title=Sandra Fluke coming to Lincoln|author=Cindy Lange-Kubick|pub=Lincoln Journal Star|date=December 2, 2012}} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:North America]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:Nebraska]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Health]] [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:Democratic Party (United States)]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Education]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:US Congress]] [[Category:US House of Representatives]] [[Category:Sandra Fluke]] [[Category:Time Person of the Year]] [[Category:Magazines]] [[Category:Media]] [[Category:Georgetown University]] [[Category:Affordable Care Act]] 6m0bcx0o2iko50mviq6egta0jn3e0jx 0 635750 5007967 4823873 2026-04-14T11:08:36Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007967 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|January 4, 2013}}{{Pakistan}} The [[Pakistan]]i schoolgirl [[Malala Yousafzai]], who was shot by the [[Pakistani Taliban|Taliban]] for campaigning for education for girls, was discharged yesterday from the {{w|Queen Elizabeth Hospital Birmingham|Queen Elizabeth hospital}} in [[Birmingham]], [[England]] after success in the first stage of her medical treatment. In October, Yousafzai was shot by Taliban forces on a school bus in {{w|Mingora}}, {{w|Swat District}}, Pakistan. She was given emergency treatment in Pakistan and then flown to [[UK|Britain]] for treatment at a specialist unit which deals with injured soldiers. Dave Rosser, {{w|University Hospitals Birmingham NHS Foundation Trust}} medical director, gave a statement about Yousafzai's release from hospital: "Malala is a strong young woman and has worked hard with the people caring for her to make excellent progress in her recovery. Following discussions with Malala and her medical team, we decided that she would benefit from being at home with her parents and two brothers. She will return to the hospital as an outpatient and our therapies team will continue to work with her at home to supervise her onward care." She is due to return to hospital in a few weeks for {{wikt|cranium|cranial}} {{w|reconstructive surgery}}. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source |url = http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/04/malala-yousafzai-discharged-birmingham-hospital |title = Pakistan schoolgirl Malala Yousafzai discharged from hospital |author = Haroon Siddique |pub = The Guardian |date = January 4, 2013 }} *{{source |url = http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/01/04/malala-yousufzai-discharged-hospital/1808455/ |title = Pakistani schoolgirl Malala Yousufzai leaves hospital |author = Kim Hjelmgaard |pub = USA Today |date = January 4, 2013 }} *{{source |url = http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/09/taliban-pakistan-shoot-girl-malala-yousafzai |title = Malala Yousafzai: Pakistan Taliban causes revulsion by shooting girl who spoke out |author = Jon Boone |pub = The Guardian |date = October 9, 2012 }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Education]] [[Category:Khyber Pakhtunkhwa]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Pakistani Taliban]] [[Category:Tom Morris (Wikinewsie)]] [[Category:United Kingdom]] [[Category:Europe]] [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:England]] [[Category:Birmingham]] [[Category:Malala Yousafzai]] [[Category:Pakistan]] [[Category:National Health Service]] lcdvqpykn7szeuubf6gs46rizr92rxl 0 731368 5007960 4822027 2026-04-14T11:08:33Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007960 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|May 1, 2013}} {{Australia}} Announced yesterday in [[Sydney]], the shortlist for [[Australia]]'s most prestigious literary award, the {{w|Miles Franklin Award|Miles Franklin Literary Award}}, includes only women for the first time in the award's history. The award had been criticized in the past for its exclusion of women on the short list, with no women appearing on it in 2009 and 2011. This year's authors on the short list include Romy Ash for ''Floundering'', {{w|Michelle de Kretser}} for ''Questions of Travel'', Annah Faulkner for ''The Beloved'', {{w|Drusilla Modjeska}} for ''The Mountain'', and {{w|Carrie Tiffany}} for ''Mateship with Birds''. The winner gets a cash prize of {{w|Australian dollar|AU$}}60,000. Judges said the shortlist selection was based on the quality of the literature, with gender not playing a role in their decision processes. Richard Neville, a librarian at the {{w|State Library of New South Wales}} and judge, is quoted by the ''{{w|Sydney Morning Herald}}'' saying, "People will probably think this is a riposte to the {{w|Stella Prize}}, [..] But I've judged this for four years, including the infamous year of the '{{wikt|sausage fest}}', and we always try to view the books as literature. We felt the books on the shortlist selected themselves." {{missing image|File:Brian Castro2.jpg|thumb|left|Brian Castro in 2010 {{image credit|[[:commons:User:Phoebird89|Phoebird89]]}}}} The longlist, announced in the last week of March, included two men out of ten total listed authors: {{w|Brian Castro}} for ''Street to Street'', and {{w|Thomas Keneally}} for ''The Daughters of Mars''. Perceived discrimination against women's writers in Australian literary circles led to the creation this year of the Stella Prize. The chair of the {{w|Australia Council’s Literature Board}} Sophie Cunningham played an integral role in creating the Stella Prize, modeled after the [[United Kingdom]]'s {{w|Women's Prize for Fiction|Orange Prize}}. The award derives its name from Miles Franklin's birth name, Stella Maria Sarah Miles Franklin. The winner is scheduled to be announced on June 19 in [[Canberra]]. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source|url=http://www.theaustralian.com.au/arts/books/in-short-women-rule-at-miles-franklin/story-e6frg8nf-1226632638715 |title=In short, women rule at Miles Franklin |author=Stephen Romei |pub=The Australian |date=May 1, 2013 }} *{{source|url=http://www.milesfranklin.com.au/keydates |title=Key Dates |author= |pub=Miles Franklin Literary Award |date=May 1, 2013 (date of access) }} *{{source|url=http://www.milesfranklin.com.au/2013/2013_longlist |title=The 2013 Longlist |author= |pub=Miles Franklin Literary Award |date=May 1, 2013 (date of access) }} *{{source|url=http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/books/women-only-on-miles-franklin-shortlist-20130430-2iq94.html |title=Women only on Miles Franklin shortlist |author=Susan Wyndham |pub=The Sydney Morning Herald |date=April 30, 2013 }} *{{source|url=http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/weekendarts/stella-prize/4628824 |title=The Stella Prize and our culture of award giving |author=Sarah Kanowski |pub=ABC Radio National |date=April 15, 2013 }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Oceania]][[Category:Australia]][[Category:New South Wales]][[Category:Sydney]][[Category:Australian Capital Territory]] [[Category:Canberra]] [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:Literature]] [[Category:Europe]] [[Category:United Kingdom]] [[Category:LauraHale (Wikinewsie)]] ckq7vwzemnsjhb1wvam18s9bzmw50ry 0 736793 5007962 4822637 2026-04-14T11:08:35Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007962 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Sports}} {{date|May 14, 2013}} [[File:Women-rugby-team-australia-1930s.jpg|thumb|left|A women's rugby team from Australia in the 1930s {{image credit|Sam Hood}}]] [[Australia]]'s {{w|National Rugby League}} (NRL) is to celebrate "Women in League" week, starting yesterday, with themes including sons, raising funds for {{w|breast cancer}} support, and club-related specials to encourage women to attend [[rugby]] league games. The week-long celebration of women was started in 2006 to highlight the importance of women to the sport and make the game female-friendlier.<!-- About Women in League --><!-- What women really want --> The NRL is planning to celebrate the week in a number of ways, including having teams compete in pink uniforms, and having fans vote for the NRL player fans believe "acts as a role model for mothers and families; someone who continues to impress us on the field, however their off-field characteristics embody what it is we love about rugby league".<!-- What women really want --><!-- About Women in League --> Additionally, funds are to be raised for the {{w|McGrath Foundation}}, a charity dedicated to breast cancer support and education, and the Women in League Achievement Award will be given out with the winner earning a {{w|Australian dollar|AU$}}5,000 gift card to {{w|Harvey Norman}}, an Australian electronics store.<!-- About Women in League. What the McGrath Foundation does is found in the About Us for them page. Award information found on the Women In League page by Harvey Norman. --> [[File:Brisbane women's rugby league grand final, September 2005. Brothers Ipswich vs West Centenary.jpg|thumb|left|The 2005 Brisbane women's rugby league grand final between Brothers Ipswich vs West Centenary. {{image credit|Leigh McMahon}}]] The NRL has been promoting the event on their Women in League [[Facebook]] page. In the past month, their Facebook updates have included posts featuring male players discussing support they received from women in their lives, sales of pink coloured NRL merchandise, plugs encouraging people to vote for their favourite son, pictures of men supporting Women in League, NRL club promotions for tickets and other events connected to Women in League, and information on a school visit promoting anti-bullying. The Facebook page has also promoted women's participation and profiles of women's players as recently as a month ago, when on April 9, it promoted the Girls 'Come and Try' Day in [[Canberra]]. Prior to that, women were last promoted as players on February 10 when pictures were shared of the Women's All Stars team match with the Indigenous All Stars team.<!-- Facebook--> 140,000 women in Australia are involved with rugby league as players, sport administrators, coaches, employees, club members, or volunteers.<!-- About Women in League --><!-- What women really want --> Karen Hardy of ''{{w|The Canberra Times}}'' estimates this number could easily be quadrupled if wives, girlfriends, mothers, and other female family members who support male players were included.<!-- What women really want --> Participation is also increasing, with almost a thousand new female players taking up the sport between 2011 and 2012 for 5,801 total registered female players in 2012.<!-- Women in League Function – 100-4-100 --> {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == {{original}} *{{source|url=http://www.rloc.com.au/default.aspx?s=wil-about |title=About Women in League |author=Rugby League’s One Community |pub=National Rugby League |date=May 14, 2013 (access date) }} *{{source|url=http://www.mcgrathfoundation.com.au/AboutUs.aspx |title=About Us |author= |pub=McGrath Foundation |date=May 14, 2013 (access date) }} *{{source|url=http://www.rloc.com.au/default.aspx?s=wil |title=Harvey Norman Women in League |author=Rugby League’s One Community |pub=National Rugby League |date=May 14, 2013 (access date) }} *{{source|url=https://www.facebook.com/womeninleague |title=Women in League |author=National Rugby League |pub=Facebook |date=May 14, 2013 (access date) }} *{{source|url=http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/what-women-really-want-20130510-2jdpj.html |title=What women really want |author=Karen Hardy |pub=The Canberra Times |date=May 11, 2013 }} *{{source|url=http://www.raiders.com.au/news-display/Women-in-League-Function--1004100/74190 |title=Women in League Function – 100-4-100 |author=Simon McGuinness |pub=Canberra Raiders |date=May 8, 2013 }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Oceania]][[Category:Australia]][[Category:Australian Capital Territory]][[Category:Canberra]] [[Category:Health]] [[Category:Sports]] [[Category:Rugby]] [[Category:LauraHale (Wikinewsie)]] rxnp6puvl8xaqbv472irnbtz6uv2l7k 0 785620 5007934 4812561 2026-04-14T11:08:24Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007934 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox Women's rights}} {{date|September 25, 2013}} Yesterday, [[World Bank]] released its 2012 World Development Report on Gender Equality and Development.<!-- date found on press release--> India was mentioned over 300 times in the report, many more times than more developed countries like [[Spain]] which was mentioned 48 times, [[New Zealand]] which was mentioned 15 times, and [[Canada]] which was mentioned 22 times.<!-- This is based on finding and looking at the total times it was found.--> The report mentions the importance of gender equality for national development as it ties into improve productivity, improved outcomes for the next generation, and more representative decision making.<!-- page xx --> Across the board for India, improved gender equality on the local level led to improvements in sanitation, water supplies, irrigation, and schools.<!-- page xx, page 6 --> [[File:School girls in Mumbai.jpg|thumb|left|School girls from [[Mumbai]] {{image credit|[http://www.flickr.com/people/33899330@N00 the opoponax]}}]] Nationally, the report found that a woman's income correlated positively with the number of years her children spent in school.<!-- page 5--> There is no gender gap in male/female {{w|Education in India|school}} attendance for the richest 20% of Indian families, but males outnumber females by a ratio of 5 to 1 for the poorest 20% of Indian families.<!-- pages 12-13-14 --> Girls in the bottom 20% on average only finish Grade 1 while males finish Grade 6.<!-- page 74 --> By age 15, according to {{w|Young Lives}}, Indian parents from [[Andhra Pradesh]] prioritize family outcomes for their male children over their female ones.<!-- page 21 --> Indian women earn {{w|dollar|$}}0.64 for every $1 earned by their male counterparts. They fare better proportionally than their female [[Germany|German]] counterparts who earn $0.62 and [[Georgia (country)|Georgia]] who earn $0.60. In the developing world, they lag behind [[Malawi]] where women earn $0.90 for every $1 earned by men, [[Egypt]] where women earn $0.82, and [[Benin]] and [[Mexico]] at $0.80.<!-- page 17--> A fifth of married Indian women, including those with their own income, do not make decisions on household spending.<!-- page 20--> The 18% average puts Indian female control of their earnings equal to their counterparts in [[Mozambique]]. India is between [[Nigeria]] at 14%, and [[Zambia]] and [[Rwanda]] at 20%.<!-- page 82 --> [[File:Smiles and determination of rural Indian women 3.jpg|thumb|left|Female activists from {{w|Bundelkhand}}, [[Uttar Pradesh]] {{image credit|[http://www.flickr.com/people/56796376@N00 McKay Savage]}}]] Indian women are having fewer children. The report found that while it took 100 years for the average woman in the [[United States]] to go from having six children to having three, it took India only 35 years.<!-- page 8--> Women still have high maternal mortality rates, especially when compared to neighboring [[Sri Lanka]]. India's rate is six times as high.<!--page 15--> Very young females still die at very high rates in India, especially in {{w|North India}}, because of gender preferences for male children. While according to the report this trend is spreading nationally, the overall number of excess females deaths dropped by 8,000 from 265,000 in 1990 to 257,000 in 2008. In [[China]], the total excess female deaths grew by 202,000.<!-- page 15--> The report cites improved access to {{w|obstetric ultrasonography|ultra-sound}} and similar technologies as a cause for the very high rates in both India and China because it allows parents to select the sex of their child.<!-- page 23,78 --> In a national exception, the height of North Indian women increased more slowly and they had worse {{wikt|anthropometry|anthropometric outcomes}} proportional to their male counterparts.<!-- page 63 --> Estimates by the World Bank report writers based on {{w|Demographic and Health Surveys}} suggest 15% of Indian women think it is acceptable for a husband to beat his wife if she refuses to have sex with him, 20% if she burns food and 30% if she argues with him.<!-- page 83 --> Economic well being plays a role in the number of children a woman has. The richest 20% of women average around 1.5 total children. The poorest 20% average about 4 children. India's poorest 20% is comparable to [[Colombia]] and the [[Dominican Republic]]. The number is much lower than many Afrian countries including [[Niger]], [[Mali]], Zambia, [[Malawi]], [[Liberia]], Nigeria, [[Tanzania]] and [[Kenya]] where the poorest 20% average over 7 children.<!-- page 76 --> The Indian gains highlighted include several local ones. This includes using women's self-help groups focused on {{w|Agricultural extension|taking best practices from research and applying them}} in [[farming]] in the state of [[Orissa]].<!-- Page xxii. This is not explictily stated, but rather refered to as agricultural extension. Wikiedia article explains this as does http://www.ifpri.org/sites/default/files/publications/ifpridp01048.pdf --> The Self Employed Women’s Association has assisted women in [[Gujarat]] by providing childcare.<!-- page 27 --> Quotas for women elected in local governments led to changes in underlying beliefs about the effectiveness of women in government.<!-- page 30 --> The creation of an all-women's police force in [[Tamil Nadu]] led to increased reporting of crimes against women and general comfort in going to the police to report a problem.<!-- page 32 --> The report offers several pieces of advice for Indian policy makers, including trying to change current role models to include more women who do not follow social norms.<!--page xxiii!--> It advises laws be created and enforced to prevent sex selection of children.<!-- page 23,24--> The report also encourages strengthening ownership and land rights, which should also address the agricultural productivity gender-gap.<!-- page 27 --> {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == {{original}}<!-- labeled original because the article is primaroñy being written from the reporter.--> *{{source|url=http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2013/09/24/societies-dismantle-gender-discrimination-world-bank-group-president-jim-yong-kim |title=Many Societies Gradually Moving to Dismantle Gender Discrimination, Yet More Can Be Done, Says World Bank Group President Jim Yong Kim |author=Press release |pub=World Bank |date=September 24, 2013 }} *{{source|url=http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTWDR2012/Resources/7778105-1299699968583/7786210-1315936222006/Complete-Report.pdf |title=2012 World Development Report on Gender Equality and Development |author= |pub=World Bank |date=September 24, 2013 }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:World Bank]] [[Category:Health]] [[Category:Education]] [[Category:London]] [[Category:England]] [[Category:United Kingdom]] [[Category:Spain]] [[Category:Germany]] [[Category:Georgia (country)]] [[Category:Europe]] [[Category:Tamil Nadu]] [[Category:Gujarat]] [[Category:Odisha]] [[Category:India]] [[Category:Sri Lanka]] [[Category:China]] [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:New Zealand]] [[Category:Oceania]] [[Category:India]] [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:Benin]] [[Category:Malawi]] [[Category:Egypt]] [[Category:Niger]] [[Category:Mali]] [[Category:Zambia]] [[Category:Liberia]] [[Category:Nigeria]] [[Category:Tanzania]] [[Category:Mozambique]] [[Category:Kenya]] [[Category:Africa]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:Mexico]] [[Category:North America]] [[Category:Colombia]] [[Category:Dominican Republic]] [[Category:South America]] [[Category:LauraHale (Wikinewsie)]] [[Category:Agriculture]] [[Category:Andhra Pradesh]] [[Category:Rwanda]] 4vk61ga441enaddmchmydonw21lpun6 0 785627 5007935 4812563 2026-04-14T11:08:24Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007935 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox Women's rights}} {{date|September 26, 2013}} Tuesday, [[World Bank]] released the 2012 World Development Report (WDR) on Gender Equality and Development.<!-- date found on press release--> With few specific mentions of [[Australia]], women in the country appear to be doing better than many other countries discussed. This includes areas like education, health, life expectancy, and willingness to work part time.<!-- My search count found 25 references, some of which just were abbrevation explanations or who funded the research. The lead also to a degree summarizes the findings below. --> [[File:CEDAW Participation.svg|thumb|left| Participation in the {{w|Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women}}]] In 1979, the [[United Nations]] General Assembly adopted the {{w|Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women}} (CEDAW). Early on, the report credits the {{w|Sex Discrimination Act 1984}}, inspired by CEDAW, with dealing with inequality issues such as discrimination based on sex, marital status, and pregnancy or potential pregnancy.<!-- page 57. early on in this context means of all Australian references. This is actually the first non-abbreviation, non-funding reference. --> The WDR 2012 team estimates based on {{w|World Values Survey|World Values Surveys}} found little change in attitudes for people who agree that university education is more important for boys than girls, with around 8% of Australians saying yes between 1994 and 1999, and 5% saying yes between 2005 and 2007. About 25% of Australians said men should have more rights to jobs than women between 1994 and 1999. This dropped to 15% between 2005 and 2007.<!-- page 68 --> The report says married Australian women working part-time are amongst a few nationalities who prefer their current working hours, and would not desire to change to a full time position. The report contrasts this to [[Honduras]] where married women working part-time would like to move to full-time but are unable to do so because of the lack of available employment.<!-- page 224 --> The report suggests economic well being is not a good predictor of Australian female fertility. The top 20% of female earners have an average of about 1.5 children compared to the bottom 20% who have an average of 2 children.<!-- page 76. this topic is actually discussed in more depth in the report around this area. Contrast to the India article where the ratios are much different. --> [[File:Kate lundy keynote.jpg|thumb|left|Current Australian {{w|Parliamentarian}} {{w|Kate Lundy}} is one of several women who was not in office in 1990 {{image credit|David Howe}}]]<!-- The image caption is verifiable at Wikipedia and I know to be true. --> While girls score slightly lower than boys on the {{w|Programme for International Student Assessment}} mathematics test at around 510 to 520 on the mean score, girls outperformed boys in literacy approximately 530 to 500.<!-- page 114. These are eyeball estimates. --> The report attributes overall patterns of girls outperforming boys at literacy and boys outperforming girls at maths to gender expectations reinforced in textbooks. It sites current examples of this in Australia and [[Hong Kong]].<!-- page 116.--> On the maths test, Australian girls slightly outperformed girls from [[Estonia]], [[Belgium]] and [[Germany]], while girls from New Zealand, [[Macau]], the [[Netherlands]], [[Canada]], [[Japan]], [[Switzerland]], [[Liechtenstein]], Finland, South Korea, Hong Kong and Singapore outperformed their Australian counterparts. On the literacy test, Australian girls slightly outperformed their [[Norway|Norwegian]] and [[Poland|Polish]] counterparts. The only countries sampled outperforming Australian girls at literacy were Japan, [[New Zealand]], Canada, [[Singapore]], [[Hong Kong]], [[Finland]] and [[South Korea]].<!-- page 114. These are eyeball estimates. --> From 1991 to 2009, the {{w|gross enrolment ratio}} for Australian females in primary and secondary school declined by 1% and 2% respectively. For tertiary education, there was a 52% increase for females.<!-- page 382 --> The average life expectancy of Australian women went from 80 in 1990 to 84 in 2009. During the same period, male life expectancy grew from 74 years to 79 years.<!-- page 384 --> [[Australian Parliament|Australia's Parliament]] had 6% women in 1990 and grew to 25% women in 2010.<!-- page 386 --> {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == {{original}}<!-- labeled original because the article is primarily being written from the reporter after reading the report.--> *{{source|url=http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2013/09/24/societies-dismantle-gender-discrimination-world-bank-group-president-jim-yong-kim |title=Many Societies Gradually Moving to Dismantle Gender Discrimination, Yet More Can Be Done, Says World Bank Group President Jim Yong Kim |author=Press release |pub=World Bank |date=September 24, 2013 }} *{{source|url=http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTWDR2012/Resources/7778105-1299699968583/7786210-1315936222006/Complete-Report.pdf |title=2012 World Development Report on Gender Equality and Development |author= |pub=World Bank |date=September 24, 2013 }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:World Bank]] [[Category:Education]] [[Category:London]] [[Category:Poland]] [[Category:Norway]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:Estonia]] [[Category:Belgium]] [[Category:Germany]] [[Category:Netherlands]] [[Category:Switzerland]] [[Category:Liechtenstein]] [[Category:Europe]] [[Category:New Zealand]] [[Category:Australia]] [[Category:Oceania]] [[Category:Japan]] [[Category:Singapore]] [[Category:Hong Kong]] [[Category:South Korea]] [[Category:Macau]] [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:Canada]] [[Category:North America]] [[Category:Honduras]] [[Category:Central America]] [[Category:LauraHale (Wikinewsie)]] [[Category:Literacy]] [[Category:Australian Parliament]] [[Category:Korean Peninsula]] 7d5nax5ttf2olf0lozd84zp8dfke5a9 0 785633 5007931 4812560 2026-04-14T11:08:23Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007931 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox Women's rights}} {{date|September 26, 2013}} [[File:PISA 2009 Mathematics StatPlanet.PNG|thumb|left|Average national scores on the 2009 Programme for International Student Assessment maths test {{image credit|[http://www.statsilk.com/ StatSilk]}}]] Tuesday, [[World Bank]] released the 2012 World Development Report on Gender Equality and Development.<!-- date found on press release --> In discussing [[Iceland]], it suggests mandatory paid parental leave for mother and father have played an important role in changing norms in the country.<!-- page 27 --> Parents have a government mandated nine months leave, three for the mother, three for the father and three to to distribute between the two. Leave is paid at 80% of their wages. The report describes the changes in gender relations in Iceland as "promising" in terms of impact at work and at home.<!-- page 299 --> Iceland's boys and girls {{wikt|anchor=Noun|mean}} scores for the {{w|Programme for International Student Assessment}} mathematics test were nearly identical with boys just edging out girls with both scores around 510. Girls outperformed boys on the literacy test with a mean score of approximately 525 to 480. Iceland's girls mathematics performance was similar to that of girls from [[Estonia]], [[Germany]] and [[Belgium]]. Their performance on literacy was similar to [[Sweden]], [[Poland]], [[Switzerland]], Estonia and [[Belgium]].<!-- page 114. This was based on eyeballing the chart.--> {{missing image|File:MargretSverrisdottir.jpg|left|thumb|Margrét Sverrisdóttir, a female Icelandic politician {{image credit|[http://www.rvk.is Reykjavik city hall]}} }} Mortality rates in Iceland for 1,000 people aged 15&ndash;60 sits at 56, significantly better than the [[United States]] at 107, [[China]] at 113, [[India]] at 213, [[Iraq]] at 285, [[Afghanistan]] at 479, [[Malawi]] at 481 and [[Zimbabwe]] at 772. One of the reasons the report cites for Iceland's relatively low mortality rate is it not located in a conflict country or in an [[HIV/AIDS]] affected country.<!-- page 118 --> Iceland was one of 23 countries that currently have over 30% of its {{w|Member of Parliament|Parliamentarians}} who are female. Other countries with over 30% representation include [[Rwanda]], [[Argentina]], [[Cuba]], [[Finland]], the [[Netherlands]], and Sweden. In the mid-1990s, there were only 5 countries.<!-- page 84. Rwanda is confirmed in the following paragraph where it says over 50%. --> The report cites the 1983 creation of the {{w|Kvennalistinn|Women's Alliance}}, an all women's political party, as bringing additional attention to women's issues and deliberately attempting to increase the representation of women in Icelandic politics.<!-- page 180. 1983 date found in Wikipedia article and in http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/40919442?uid=3737952&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21102691413163 . The jstor article provides additional support for what the report suggests. --> Despite some of the good news highlighted in the report about Icelandic women, there exists a systematic gender difference in earning potential. Icelandic women in both the private and public sector earn approximately 22% less than their male counterparts.<!-- page 202. chart eyeballed. --> Icelandic men have slightly more access to the Internet than Icelandic women by about 2%. Despite this slight disadvantage for Icelandic women, it is much better than some countries where the percentage differences are much greater. These countries include [[Austria]], [[Croatia]], [[Greece]], [[Italy]], [[Portugal]], [[Azerbaijan]], [[Serbia]], [[Turkey]], and [[Macedonia]].<!-- pages 261 to 263 --> {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == {{original}}<!-- labeled original because the article is primarily being written from the reporter after reading the report.--> *{{source|url=http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2013/09/24/societies-dismantle-gender-discrimination-world-bank-group-president-jim-yong-kim |title=Many Societies Gradually Moving to Dismantle Gender Discrimination, Yet More Can Be Done, Says World Bank Group President Jim Yong Kim |author=Press release |pub=World Bank |date=September 24, 2013 }} *{{source|url=http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTWDR2012/Resources/7778105-1299699968583/7786210-1315936222006/Complete-Report.pdf |title=2012 World Development Report on Gender Equality and Development |author= |pub=World Bank |date=September 24, 2013 }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:World Bank]] [[Category:Health]] [[Category:Education]] [[Category:Internet]] [[Category:AIDS]] [[Category:Iceland]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:Netherlands]] [[Category:Sweden]] [[Category:Estonia]] [[Category:Germany]] [[Category:Belgium]] [[Category:Poland]] [[Category:Switzerland]] [[Category:Austria]] [[Category:Croatia]] [[Category:Greece]] [[Category:Italy]] [[Category:Portugal]] [[Category:Azerbaijan]] [[Category:Serbia]] [[Category:Turkey]] [[Category:North Macedonia]] [[Category:Europe]] [[Category:Rwanda]] [[Category:Malawi]] [[Category:Zimbabwe]] [[Category:Africa]] [[Category:Argentina]] [[Category:South America]] [[Category:Cuba]] [[Category:Caribbean]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:North America]] [[Category:China]] [[Category:India]] [[Category:Afghanistan]] [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:Iraq]] [[Category:Middle East]] [[Category:LauraHale (Wikinewsie)]] [[Category:Literacy]] [[Category:Infectious disease]] [[Category:Disease]] fgkzaqvdzaj2xq4g4ggllfkvvihq521 0 785639 5007951 4818162 2026-04-14T11:08:30Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007951 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Jamaica}} {{date|September 26, 2013}} On Tuesday the [[World Bank]] released the 2012 World Development Report on Gender Equality and Development.<!-- date found on press release--> For [[Jamaica]] the report highlights a number of negative gender issues for the nation's men.<!-- This is true. I read all 17 references I found and the first 13 are primarily about men. Women are not mentioned as much. 14th reference is explicitly about women.--> [[File:Ascot high students.jpg|thumb|left| A group of students and their teacher at {{w|Ascot High School}} in Jamaica {{image credit|{{w|User:Raw9345|Raw9345}}}}]] The report claims that getting an education in Jamaica is viewed as primarily a female activity. This cultural attitude encourages males to leave school early.<!-- page 76, 173 --> In 2008, girls outnumbered boys in secondary school by a ratio of 1.04:1. At the same time, boys were more likely to have to repeat a year of school. Only 16% of boys passed five or more {{w|Caribbean Secondary Education Certificate}} exams compared to 30% of girls. Boys outperformed girls only in vocational subjects and [[physics]]. The report cites four key challenges in boys' development identified by a national programme. They are low self-esteem, limited future employment opportunities, lack of discipline, and masculine identities that eschew education.<!-- page 112 and 113 --> A program in Jamaica uses cash incentives to encourage at-risk boys to stay in school; other countries like [[Pakistan]] use cash incentives to encourage girls to stay in school. Jamaica's program has resulted an average increase in boys attending school by 0.5 days a month. <!-- pages xxii , 112 and 113 --> At the same time, fathers are urged to become more involved with their childrens' schooling and changes are being made to the curriculum to make it "more boy-friendly".<!-- page 112 and 113 --> Definitions of masculinity result in less employment opportunities and smaller earnings potential. The report claims Jamaican definitions of masculinity also encourage more risky behavior, and sexual behaviors valuing achievement and competence above intimacy. The report says these factors increase physical and sexual violence towards women.<!-- page 173 --> Male mortality is increasing in Jamaica. The report cites crime and violence as causes.<!-- page 119--> {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == {{original}}<!-- labeled original because the article is primarily being written from the reporter after reading the report.--> *{{source|url=http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2013/09/24/societies-dismantle-gender-discrimination-world-bank-group-president-jim-yong-kim |title=Many Societies Gradually Moving to Dismantle Gender Discrimination, Yet More Can Be Done, Says World Bank Group President Jim Yong Kim |author=Press release |pub=World Bank |date=September 24, 2013 }} *{{source|url=http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTWDR2012/Resources/7778105-1299699968583/7786210-1315936222006/Complete-Report.pdf |title=2012 World Development Report on Gender Equality and Development |author= |pub=World Bank |date=September 24, 2013 }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:World Bank]] [[Category:Education]] [[Category:Jamaica]] [[Category:Caribbean]] [[Category:LauraHale (Wikinewsie)]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Sex crimes]] [[Category:Crime and law]] g7ajjj6ildiq7b4wg2rol9fx9fni8wx 0 786276 5007933 4812562 2026-04-14T11:08:24Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007933 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox Women's rights}} {{date|September 27, 2013}} Tuesday, [[World Bank]] released the 2012 World Development Report on Gender Equality and Development.<!-- date found on press release--> The [[United States]] is referred to many times, often as a benchmark to foster understanding of recent gains for women in other parts of the globe.<!-- page xiii --> At the same time, United States women still lag behind US men in a number of areas.<!-- See paragraph specifically about this.--> In 2012, the authors note women in the United States still face challenges economically and socially. They are represented disproportionately in certain professions like teaching and nursing. They are paid less than their male counterparts.<!-- page 55, 206 --> Jobs traditionally held by women also result in lower wages for men who hold these jobs.<!-- page 206 --> They are under-represented at the highest level of business, with only 28 of Fortune 1000 companies having a female chief executive officer.<!-- page 55 --> The bottom 20% of women economically have a slightly higher birth rate than their peers in the top 20%.<!-- page 76 --> Immigrants to the United States from Southeast Asia and India have higher than expected male to female birth ratios, which the report authors suggest is partially deliberate sex selection based on cultural attitudes from home countries.<!-- page 79, pages 123, 124 --> In 2009, over half a million US women were victims of intimate partner violence.<!-- page 84 --> The report suggests US men have greater pension assets than US women.<!-- page 154 --> When compared to elderly US men, elderly women in the United States are more likely to live alone than with a spouse.<!-- page 163 --> US women are disproportionately under-represented in local police forces, accounting for less than 20% of all police officers.<!-- page 167 --> Women in the United States also bear a higher percentage of housework duties than men at 61%.<!-- page 219 --> When US women take part time work while raising children, they find it difficult to use that work experience to gain future full time employment.<!-- page 220 --> US women are disincentivized from re-entering the workforce after giving birth because of the high cost of childcare.<!-- page 222 --> [[File:1912 Suffrage Parade.jpg|thumb|left|A suffrage parade in the United States in 1912 {{image credit|National Archives and Records Administration }}]] Many of the gains for United States women took place a while ago and took a long time to get. It took 40 years, 1870&ndash;1910, to see major improvements in the percentage of girls aged 6 to 12 attending school.<!-- page xiii, page 8 --> In 1921, after women got the {{w|Women's suffrage in the United States|right to vote in the United States}}, the [[United States Congress]] passed the {{w|Sheppard–Towner Act|Promotion of the Welfare and Hygiene of Maternity and Infancy Act}}. This assisted in lowering infant mortality from 23% to 15%.<!-- pages 6, 48. This is not stated explicitly until page 68 of the report but the legislation is that and details can be found at http://history.house.gov/HistoricalHighlight/Detail/36084 --> [[File:Affirmative Action supreme court demonstration 2003.jpg|thumb|right|Affirmative Action Demonstration in 2003 in the District of Colombia {{image credit|[[:w:User:Joseluis89|Joseluis89]]}}]] The report says {{w|affirmative action}} in the United States resulted in jobs transferring from men to women, but the authors hedged and did not draw a conclusion about the economic impact of these legislative efforts other than to say the impact was not negative.<!-- pages 29, 231 --> Many of the legislative victories for United States women came early compared to developing countries. Property rights for women, while later than some of their European counterparts like [[Norway]] and the [[United Kingdom]], started to come by 1848. That year, the {{w|Married Women's Property Acts in the United States|Married Women’s Property Act}} was passed in [[New York]]. It was the first legislation of its kind in the country. Other states soon followed.<!-- page 58 --> Women got {{wikt|suffrage}} on a state-by-state level in the country until they got federal suffrage in 1920.<!-- page 68 --> {{w|Civil Rights Act of 1964|anchor=Title VII|Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964}} barred discrimination against women and allowed married women to make loans without their husband's consent. In 1980, airlines were barred from discriminating against flight attendances for their marital status during the hiring and firing stage.<!-- page 58 --> The number of United States respondents agreeing with the proposition "a university education is more important for a boy than for a girl" decreased from about 14% in the period between 1994 and 1999 to about about 9% in the period between 2005 and 2007. Similarly, the number of people who agreed with "when jobs are scarce, men should have more right to a job than women" decreased from 19% to about 8% over the same period.<!-- page 68 --> The report cites current research from the United States and [[England]] showing the more education a mother has, the better the outcomes for her children will be.<!-- page 68 --> [[File:PISA 2009 Mathematics StatPlanet.PNG|thumb|left|Average national scores on the 2009 Programme for International Student Assessment maths test {{image credit|[http://www.statsilk.com/ StatSilk ]}}]] Currently in the United States, females academically outperform their male counterparts in all academic areas including [[mathematics|math]] and [[science]].<!-- page 76 --> On the {{w|Programme for International Student Assessment}} math test though, US boys tested better than US girls by a score of roughly 495 to 480. US girls outperform boys on the literacy test with mean scores of approximately 510 to 490. In this regard, the report suggests US girls' performance patterns resemble global ones.<!-- page 114 --> [[Mali]]'s percentage of girls in primary school is equivalent to the United States in 1810 at around 34%.<!-- page 12, page 13 based on eyeballing the chart --> Burkino Faso is worse, matching the United States in 1780 with a percentage of roughly 25%. [[Niger]]'s current enrollment for girls is around 50%, around the same percentage as the United States in 1900.<!-- pages 13, 73 --> {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == {{original}}<!-- labeled original because the article is primarily being written from the reporter after reading the report.--> *{{source|url=http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2013/09/24/societies-dismantle-gender-discrimination-world-bank-group-president-jim-yong-kim |title=Many Societies Gradually Moving to Dismantle Gender Discrimination, Yet More Can Be Done, Says World Bank Group President Jim Yong Kim |author=Press release |pub=World Bank |date=September 24, 2013 }} *{{source|url=http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTWDR2012/Resources/7778105-1299699968583/7786210-1315936222006/Complete-Report.pdf |title=2012 World Development Report on Gender Equality and Development |author= |pub=World Bank |date=September 24, 2013 }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:World Bank]] [[Category:US Congress]] [[Category:Health]] [[Category:Economy and business]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:North America]] [[Category:Literacy]] [[Category:LauraHale (Wikinewsie)]] flifx6z27l2e9ce6kxbd93f830rm39v 0 788199 5007950 4817809 2026-04-14T11:08:30Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007950 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox Women's rights}} {{date|September 27, 2013}} [[File:Fiji in Oceania (special marker) (-mini map -rivers).svg|thumb|left|Fiji's location in the world {{image credit|[[:commons:User:TUBS|TUBS]]}}]] On Tuesday the [[World Bank]] released the 2012 World Development Report on Gender Equality and Development.<!-- date found on press release--> For [[Fiji]], the report focused on progress being made in the country as it relates to gender roles and the local impact of the {{w|Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women}}.<!-- Summary of article.--> [[File:Fijian children DSC 0024.jpg|thumb|left|Fijian children {{image credit|[http://www.flickr.com/people/52612760@N00 Alex Kehr]}}]] Girls from Fiji believe they can attain a university education. In contrast, boys from rural areas in Fiji generally do not believe they will stay in school past the {{w|primary school|primary}} level.<!-- page 280 --> The report attributes this to the need for boys to contribute to the family income. This pushes them out of school and into the workforce.<!-- page 281 --> It also says girls have less free time than boys. Girls have specific household chores that limit their free time. Boys, in contrast, have fewer structured household tasks, and the tasks they do have require less time. Boys also have greater ability to leave the house than girls. The report says these differences play a role in defining gender roles. This can lead boys into engaging in bad behavior and increase their exposure to {{w|drugs}} and alcohol. The report says this pattern exists elsewhere in countries like [[Yemen]], [[Sudan]], [[Bhutan]], [[India]], the West Bank and [[Gaza Strip]], [[Dominican Republic]], [[Tanzania]], [[Burkina Faso]], [[Liberia]], and [[Papua New Guinea]]. The report quotes a Fijian boy as saying, "Boys, they take their bikes and scoot off and roam around in villages here and there".<!-- pages 281-283 --> [[File:CEDAW Participation.svg|thumb|left| Participation in the {{w|Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women}}]] Fijian girls are beginning to challenge these traditional cultural gender norms. While they acknowledge and admire the hard work their mothers have done in the domestic sphere, they seek better education and opportunities.<!-- page 283 --> While the [[United Nations]] General Assembly adopted the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women (CEDAW) in 1979, Fiji did not ratify it until August 1995. They were the 139th country to do so. At first, Fiji objected for cultural reasons to one part of CEDAW, and said {{w|Constitution of Fiji|Constitutional}} sections containing different rules for men and women on their ability to marry foreigners was incompatible with another part. These objections were eventually dropped and constitutional changes were made between 1997 and 1999.<!-- page 349. the ratification information can be found at http://www.un.org/womenwatch/daw/cedaw/cedaw26/fji1.pdf --> CEDAW helped bring about family law reform in 1995. A civil uprising in 2000 stalled some iniatives, but the 2002 CEDAW review assisted in reviving efforts. In 2009, the minimum age allowed for both men and women to marry was raised to 18 years. Since the introduction of CEDAW, reforms have been made that allowed for more equal partners, make divorces easier to get, make it harder for women to be excluded from the home, and improve the amount, and enforced the payment, of spousal support and following a divorce. The report notes that a 2010 review of CEDAW said there is still room for improvement in terms of inheritance rights for women.<!-- page 349 --> Fiji has a population of 854,000, with an annual average percentage population growth of 0.6%. 31% of the population is aged 0 to 14. The average life expectancy for men is 67 years and for women is 71 years.<!-- page 402 --> {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == {{original}}<!-- labeled original because the article is primarily being written from the reporter after reading the report.--> *{{source|url=http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2013/09/24/societies-dismantle-gender-discrimination-world-bank-group-president-jim-yong-kim |title=Many Societies Gradually Moving to Dismantle Gender Discrimination, Yet More Can Be Done, Says World Bank Group President Jim Yong Kim |author=Press release |pub=World Bank |date=September 24, 2013 }} *{{source|url=http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTWDR2012/Resources/7778105-1299699968583/7786210-1315936222006/Complete-Report.pdf |title=2012 World Development Report on Gender Equality and Development |author= |pub=World Bank |date=September 24, 2013 }} *{{source|url=http://www.un.org/womenwatch/daw/cedaw/cedaw26/fji1.pdf|title=Consideration of reports submitted by States parties under article 18 of the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women - Fiji Islands|author=|pub=United Nations|date=March 14, 2000}} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:World Bank]] [[Category:Education]] [[Category:Oceania]] [[Category:Fiji]] [[Category:LauraHale (Wikinewsie)]] [[Category:Melanesia]] 6oy9pcpy4o5n1xqxytm2euxkoxx29hg 0 798026 5007948 4817856 2026-04-14T11:08:29Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007948 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox Women's rights}} {{date|September 29, 2013}} Earlier this week the [[World Bank]] released the 2012 World Development Report on Gender Equality and Development.<!-- date found on press release--> The report noted relatively high numbers of women participating in [[Finland|Finnish]] politics, and credited the Council for Equality between Men and Women in Finland with progress.<!-- --> [[File:Tarja Halonen 2003.jpg|thumb|left|Pictured in 2003 during a state visit to [[Brazil]], Tarja Halonen was Finland's first lady President.{{Image credit|{{w|Agência Brasil}}}}]] Finland bucks the global trend; the report notes globally "the number of women holding parliamentary seats is very low, and progress in the last 15 years has been slow." Female representation in national parliaments has risen from 10% in 1995 to 17% in 2009. By contrast, Finnish female parliamentarians accounted for 38.5% of new members in 1991, rising to 42.5% in 2011. Finland was one of just nine nations whose total female cabinet members stood at more than 40% in 2008. Globally, females accounted for 17% of ministers, representing a rise from just 8% in 1998.<!-- Page 84, 85--> Although not specifically mentioned by the report, since the millennium the positions of {{w|President of Finland|President}} and {{w|Prime Minister of Finland|Prime Minister}} have both been held by women; [[Tarja Halonen]] became the nation's first female President in 2000 and in 2010 {{w|Mari Kiviniemi}} was selected to be the second female Prime Minister.<!-- Verified by non-UN sources--> Women gained suffrage in 1906 with little opposition, ahead of the [[US]] and [[UK]].<!-- Page 351--> [[File:Math lecture at TKK.JPG|thumb|left|250px|Students at a maths lecture at the {{w|Helsinki University of Technology}} {{Image credit|[[Commons:User talk:Tungsten|Tungsten]]}}]] The cross-party Council for Equality between Men and Women in Finland dates back to the 1970s; the World Bank dismisses its role at that time as "primarily symbolic" with little in the way of staff, funding, or influence. In the 1980s it was handed statutory power for gender equality issues and has gone on to press for reforms in areas including {{w|sex work}}, job training, and quotas on political representation. The report calls the council a "success". <!-- Page 347--> Education, however, showed gender segregation by subject at the tertiary level; Finland was one of several countries singled out as examples of high gender segregation in economically developed countries, compared to lower levels of segregation in less well-developed nations. Finland is one of the four members of the {{w|Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development}} with the highest segregation by subject alongside [[Croatia]], [[Japan]], and [[Lithuania]].<!-- Page 88--> Finland has very high levels of education enrollment for both boys and girls, at almost 100% at {{w|primary school|primary}} level. Females are ahead of men in tertiary education enrollment, with 46% of men in the relevant age group enrolling in 1991 and 52% of women. By 2009 these numbers stood at 82% and 101% respectively.<!-- Page 382--> Boys and girls were neck and neck with high scores in their 2009 {{w|Programme for International Student Assessment}} maths tests, both averaging around 540. Literacy also produced very high scores but with a gender gap; boys averaged around 510 while girls averaged around 560.<!-- Page 114--> [[Internet]] access in Finland is high with men slightly ahead; for men and women alike access stands at around 85%.<!-- Page 263--> Finns have a legal right to a 1Mbps broadband connection and authorities plan to have 100Mbps connections for every citizen by 2015. <!-- non-UN source-->The proportion of women {{w|teleworking}} at least 25% of the time has risen from around 7% in 2000&ndash;1 to 9% in 2005; the male figure was at 9% in 2005 and is now 15&ndash;20%. Rapid teleworking growth is a global trend but the report notes the female figures generally grew faster.<!-- Page 265--> Marketplace activities also show gender disparity in Finland. Of activities performed by men and women, the female share stands at 41%, versus 63% for domestic activities such as housework.<!-- Page 219--> From 2006&ndash;9 services accounted for 87% of female and 56% of male employment. 10% of women and 37% of men were employed in industry and [[agriculture]] was only a minor employer, with 6% of male employment and 3% of female employment.<!-- Page 386--> Life expectancy for Finnish men has risen from 71 years in 1990 to 77 years in 2009; in the same period, women's life expectancy increased from 79 years to 83 years.<!-- Page 384--> The population stands at 5 million, representing a 0.4% annual growth rate from 2000 to 2010.<!-- Page 392--> {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== {{original}}<!-- labeled original because the article is primarily being written from the reporter after reading the report.--> *{{source|url=http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2013/09/24/societies-dismantle-gender-discrimination-world-bank-group-president-jim-yong-kim |title=Many Societies Gradually Moving to Dismantle Gender Discrimination, Yet More Can Be Done, Says World Bank Group President Jim Yong Kim |author=Press release |pub=World Bank |date=September 24, 2013 }} *{{source|url=http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTWDR2012/Resources/7778105-1299699968583/7786210-1315936222006/Complete-Report.pdf |title=2012 World Development Report on Gender Equality and Development |author= |pub=World Bank |date=September 24, 2013 }} *{{source|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10461048|title=Finland makes broadband a 'legal right'|author=|pub=BBC News Online|date=July 1, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/the-16-women-taking-over-the-world-2009488.html?action=gallery&ino=11|title=The 16 women taking over the world|author=Matilda Battersby|pub=The Independent|date=June 24, 2010}} *{{source|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10378016|title=Finland picks new prime minister Mari Kiviniemi|author=|pub=BBC News Online|date=June 22, 2010}} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Europe]] [[Category:Finland]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:World Bank]] [[Category:Economy and business]] [[Category:Education]] [[Category:Iain Macdonald (Wikinewsie)]] [[Category:Tarja Halonen]] [[Category:Science and technology]] [[Category:Internet]] [[Category:Literacy]] 0ap85wa7enznsbaya2ic7v25ol6f4zi 0 917714 5007940 4816022 2026-04-14T11:08:26Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007940 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|November 8, 2013}} {{Australia}} [[File:Logo Bauer Media Group.png|thumb|left|Logo Bauer Media Group]] Senior Editor for [[Australia]]'s ''Cleo'' magazine Sharri Markson confirmed on Wednesday <!-- (the 6th of November) --> that she will not be competing for the role of editor between the sudden merger of ''{{w|Dolly (magazine)|Dolly}}'' and ''{{w|Cleo (magazine)|Cleo}}'' titles. The news came only days after [[Germany|German]]-based {{w|Bauer Media Group|Bauer Media}} announced the merger of two of their most popular Australian magazines, with an expected loss of half the production staff by early next year. The production team was informed of the merge in a staff meeting on Monday. Chief executive Matt Stanton and publisher Sebastian Kadas explained the merger process, which will see the separate mastheads continue under the one production team and half the size of the normal magazine printing dimensions. Both current editors Sharri Markson and Tiffany Dunk, along with the entire production team, were required to re-apply for their positions and compete against one another to secure a position. However, according to ''{{w|The Australian}}'', after only three days of consideration, Markson informed staff that she is not prepared to accept the role given it would mean producing two magazines with half the staff. Former editors of both ''Dolly'' and ''Cleo'' are turning to [[Twitter]] to show support for the staff in danger of unemployment. {{w|Mia Freedman}} posted; "Sad for all the girls who dream of working in magazines. The dream is sadly very much over. No joy today. Thinking of ''Dolly'' & ''Cleo'' staff", and {{w|Lisa Wilkinson}} posting "Very sad to hear news that ''Dolly'' & ''Cleo'' magazines are merging, with expected losses of half the staff. End of an era. And a personal one ..." Wilkinson told ''{{w|The Sydney Morning Heald}}''. "I just hope the magazine publishers in this country have been mentoring that new talent otherwise it simply will not work". Bauer Media have released a statement addressing the situation, claiming to be “continually reviewing every aspect of its business, looking at new opportunities for growth and investment, whilst ensuring all divisions are working as efficiently and effectively as possible”. Bauer’s CEO who addressed the staff on Monday continued, saying "it makes sense to bring the staff creating these young women’s lifestyle titles together. The single publishing unit enables us to tap the synergies and expertise between the mastheads to further enhance the reach and relevance of these two much-loved Australian magazine brands." The production staff along with popular media personalities are publicly questioning the efficiency of the merge, as both titles have distinctly different audiences; with ''Dolly'' aiming at teenager readers and ''Cleo'' at women in their 20s and 30s. This combined with the ever increasing stress of publishing will only maximise the pressure on the new production team. {{w|Ita Buttrose}} highlighted the concern, telling ''{{w|Crikey}}'', "I know everybody is cost-cutting at the moment, but this seems a bit extreme. You'd have to be a very experienced, very talented editor to put out both titles. I ran the women's division at {{w|ACP Magazines}}, but all the titles had their own clearly defined editors. For one person to edit two magazines — that may be something they do in Germany, but it's new for me ... I'd like to see their business plan." The move comes closely after Bauer discontinued women's magazine titles ''Madison'' and ''{{w|Grazia}}'' in Australia earlier this year due to continuing financial pressures. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source|url= http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/sydney-confidential/battle-of-the-magazine-queens/story-fni0cvc9-1226756132404 |title= Battle of the magazine queens |author= Annette Sharp |pub= The Daily Telegraph |date= November 8, 2013 }} *{{source|url= http://www.theaustralian.com.au/media/media-diary/no-joy-from-markson-over-cleodolly-merger/story-fnab9kqj-1226755150422# |title= No Joy from Markson over Cleo/Dolly merger |author= Nick Leys |pub= The Australian |date= November 7, 2013 }} *{{source|url= http://www.womensagenda.com.au/talking-about/top-stories/what-ita-buttrose-says-about-dolly-and-cleo-magazines-merging/201311063166 |title= What Ita Buttrose says about Dolly and Cleo magazines merging |author= Matthew Knott |pub= Women's Agenda |date= November 7, 2013 }} *{{source|url=http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/sydney-confidential/sharri-markson-and-tiffany-dunk-the-battle-of-the-teen-mag-editors/story-fni0cvc9-1226753041818 |title= Sharri Markson and Tiffany Dunk - the battle of the teen mag editors |author= |pub= The Daily Telegraph |date= November 5, 2013 }} *{{source|url= http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/private-sydney/cleo-and-dolly-magazines-to-merge-20131104-2wvye.html |title= Cleo and Dolly magazines to merge? |author= Andrew Hornery |pub= Sydney Morning Herald |date= November 4, 2013 }} *{{source|url= http://www.pedestrian.tv/news/fashion/merger-of-dolly-cleo-mastheads-suggests-you-should/85b1dd7a-30b4-4402-b804-62177f14238f.htm |title= Merger of Dolly, Cleo masthead suggests you should rethink your magazine dreams |author= |pub= Pedestrian TV |date= November 4, 2013 }} *{{source|url= http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/a-sign-of-the-times-lisa-wilkinson-laments-changes-ahead-for-cleo-and-dolly-20131104-2ww93.html |title= A sign of the times: Lisa Wilkinson laments changes ahead for Cleo and Dolly |author= Andrew Hornery |pub= Sydney Morning Herald |date= November 4, 2013 }} *{{source|url= http://www.theaustralian.com.au/media/bauer-to-merge-dolly-cleo/story-e6frg996-1226752632214# |title= Bauer to merge staff of Dolly, Cleo |author= Nick Leys and Sally Jackson |pub= The Australian |date= November 4, 2013 }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Journalism]] [[Category:Sydney]] [[Category:Oceania]] [[Category:Magazines]] [[Category:Europe]] [[Category:Germany]] [[Category:Economy and business]] [[Category:Australia]] 4vu9i6ubw665n67rubom2i62wu3cknt 0 1005571 5007981 4825918 2026-04-14T11:08:42Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007981 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|December 10, 2013}} {{Sports}} [[File:Casey Stoney.jpg|thumb|left|File photo of Casey Stoney from last year {{image credit|[http://www.flickr.com/people/37195744@N03 Jon Candy]}}]] Over the weekend, [[FIFA]] President [[Sepp Blatter]] faced criticism from British women associated with [[Football (soccer)|soccer]] for his support of a Brazilian model chosen to conduct the televised draw for the {{w|2014 FIFA World Cup}} on Saturday. {{w|Fernanda Lima}}, who has no previous connection to football or sport prior to her involvement as a FIFA 2014 World Cup presenter, appeared on stage wearing a gold dress with a plunging neckline and matching heels. She stood alongside secretary general of FIFA Jérôme Valcke, Blatter and soccer greats including [[Uruguay|Uruguayan]] {{w|Alcides Ghiggia}} during the draw. FIFA claims they were not involved in the selection of Lima's attire. ''{{w|New York Daily News}}'' writer Frank Isola said his favorite moment of the draw was when Ghiggia dropped a ping-pong ball and Lima in her dress retrieved it. {{w|Casey Stoney}}, who was captain of {{w|England women's national football team|the English women's football team}} in the last [[2012 Summer Olympics|Olympics]] told the ''{{w|Sunday Telegraph}}'': "Giving the job to a model has sent out completely the wrong message. Unfortunately I wasn't surprised. [...] They could have had a woman high up in the game or else a player with proper international standing. This should have been about football." {{w|British Broadcasting Corporation|BBC}} broadcaster {{w|Jacqui Oatley}}, the first woman to be a Match of the Day commentator for the network, is quoted by the ''Sunday Telegraph'' as saying, "What a missed opportunity. Brazil have arguably the most talented female footballer in the world, the great Marta, five-time FIFA World Player of the Year. Why not use her to showcase the best of Brazil and show some of her spectacular goals?" Live coverage of the draw in [[Iran]] cut away every time Lima was in shot because her clothes did not comport with Iranian customs. Blatter has a history of making remarks that have been perceived as sexist, including a 2004 comment that suggested female players could get more fans by wearing tighter uniforms. Christiano Jorge Santos, a {{w|Sao Paulo}} state prosecutor, announced prior to the draw he planned an investigation into FIFA and event organizer GEO Eventos following the related accusations of racism stemming from the selection of Lima as a presenter. Suggestions were made that Lima was chosen because she was white. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source|url=http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/football/iranians-turn-on-model-fernanda-lima-and-lionel-messi-after-2014-world-cup-draw/story-fnii0fc4-1226779309679 |title=Iranians turn on model Fernanda Lima and Lionel Messi after 2014 World Cup draw |author=[[Agence France-Presse|AFP]] |pub=Adelaide Now |date=December 10, 2013 }} *{{source|url=http://news.asiaone.com/news/showbiz/stunner-steals-show-world-cup-draw |title=Stunner steals show at World Cup draw |author= |pub=The New Paper |date=December 10, 2013 }} *{{source|url=http://www.latinospost.com/articles/32265/20131208/fifa-world-cup-2014-match-schedule-groups-death-predictions-usa.htm |title=FIFA World Cup 2014 Match Schedule, Groups of Death & Predictions: US to Face Germany, Portugal and Ghana on Elims Round |author= |pub=Latinos Post |date=December 8, 2010 }} *{{source|url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/08/fernanda-lima-_n_4408638.html |title=Fernanda Lima Distracts Soccer Fans During World Cup Draw (PHOTOS) |author= Juliana Barrera |pub=Huffington Post |date=December 8, 2013 }} *{{source|url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2520400/PETER-MCKAY-Why-desperate-Ed-daft-bring-Blairites.html |title= Why desperate Ed is daft to bring back the Blairites |author=Peter McKay |pub=The Daily Mail |date=December 8, 2013 }} *{{source|url=http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/soccer/isola-world-cup-brazil-lose-article-1.1541778 |title=World Cup is Brazil's to lose after host nation gets favorable draw |author=Frank Isola |pub=New York Daily News |date=December 8, 2013 }} *{{source|url=http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/263305.html |title=World Cup draw racism probe opened |author= |pub=ESPN |date=December 4, 2013 }} *{{source|url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10503017/Fifa-in-sexism-row-over-World-Cup-draw.html |title=Fifa in sexism row over World Cup draw |author= Robert Mendick, Matt Sandy and Ben Rumsby |pub=The Sunday Telegraph |date=December 8, 2010 }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Sports]] [[Category:South America]] [[Category:Brazil]] [[Category:Football (soccer)]] [[Category:Europe]][[Category:United Kingdom]][[Category:England]] [[Category:LauraHale (Wikinewsie)]] [[Category:Sepp Blatter]] [[Category:FIFA]] k0bwctfr0iacvkuzkgjs226qbec1x0k 0 1143769 5007973 4825594 2026-04-14T11:08:38Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007973 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|February 6, 2014}} {{Infobox Women's rights}} [[Women's rights]] advocate and {{w|Georgetown University Law Center}} graduate [[Sandra Fluke]] announced her candidacy yesterday to run for the {{w|California State Senate}}. [[File:2012 May 8 Sandra Fluke and friend cropped to collar.jpg|thumb|left|[[Sandra Fluke]] (2012) {{Image source|[http://www.flickr.com/people/81711099@N04 nmogburn]}}]] The [[Democratic Party (United States)|Democrat]] previously stated she would run for a seat in the [[United States Congress]] being vacated by retiring Congressman {{w|Henry Waxman}}. She informed the ''[[Los Angeles Times]]'' that she decided to run for the California State Senate instead of the U.S. Congress because she felt she would be able to accomplish more for the people of California as a state Senator. She will attempt to gain election to the seat currently occupied by {{w|Ted Lieu}}, a Democrat from {{w|Torrance, California|Torrance}}, [[California]]. Lieu is currently in the beginning of his own campaign for Congressman Waxman's seat representing {{w|California's 33rd congressional district}}. {{QuoteRight|My entire career has been devoted to the public interest, whether representing victims of human trafficking or advocating for working families.|4=[[Sandra Fluke]]}} In a release to the press, Fluke said: "I am extremely moved by the outpouring of local and national support I have received since I announced that I was considering running for office. My entire career has been devoted to the public interest, whether representing victims of human trafficking or advocating for working families." She described her intentions for the California legislature: "I am committed to continuing that fight in Sacramento, working to protect our environment, ensure our access to health care, and create the jobs that are desperately needed. While I strongly considered offering my candidacy for Congress, I feel there is a better way for me to advance the causes that are important to our community." {{QuoteLeft|I am eager to get to work fighting for the causes that matter most to our future as a community, state and nation.|4=Sandra Fluke}} Fluke characterized herself as a new voice for {{w|progressivism}}: "I believe that the families and communities of this district — from West Hollywood to West L.A. and from Santa Monica to Torrance and beyond — deserve to have a fresh perspective from a new generation of progressive leadership in Sacramento, and I am eager to get to work fighting for the causes that matter most to our future as a community, state and nation." After graduating from law school, Fluke moved to [[Los Angeles]] where she used her skills as a lawyer to help improve conditions for individuals related to improving the {{w|living wage}} and advocating for better {{w|foster care}} for children. Fluke was nominated as a candidate by ''[[Time (magazine)|Time]]'' magazine for their ''[[Time Person of the Year|Person of the Year]]'' of 2012. ''Time'' concluded Fluke helped give U.S. President [[Barack Obama]] an edge in [[2012 United States presidential election|his 2012 presidential re-election campaign]]. Fluke was a featured speaker on September 5, 2012 at the {{w|2012 Democratic National Convention}} in {{w|Charlotte, North Carolina|Charlotte}}, [[North Carolina]]. Fluke spoke to attendees at the convention about the consequences for [[women]] of electing [[Republican Party (United States)|Republican]] candidate for [[President of the United States|U.S. President]] [[Mitt Romney]] over incumbent President [[Barack Obama]]. Fluke campaigned with President Obama in his bid for re-election. She was recognized April 22, 2012 with the ''Stand Up for Choice Award''. Fluke was given the ''Stand Up for Choice Award'' at the "Third Annual Multi-Generational Brunch" of the organization {{w|NARAL Pro-Choice America}} which was held in [[New York City]] (NYC), [[New York]] in the [[United States]]. Fluke received a nomination in March 2012 as a candidate for ''Time'' magazine's 100 most influential people in the world. The list is released annually as a special edition of ''Time'' magazine, titled ''{{w|Time 100}}''. She gave testimony to the [[US Congress]] on February 23, 2012 before the {{w|House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee}} at a hearing about {{w|women's health}} and {{w|contraception}}. She also worked for Sanctuary for Families in NYC which worked to crack down on [[human trafficking]] and domestic violence. {{HYS}} ==Related news== *{{wikinews|title=Sandra Fluke gives keynote speech at Nebraska women's health event|date=December 6, 2012}} *{{wikinews|title=Sandra Fluke nominated by Time magazine for Person of the Year|date=November 30, 2012}} *{{wikinews|title=Sandra Fluke featured speaker at Democratic National Convention|date=September 7, 2012}} *{{wikinews|title=Sandra Fluke insists she will not be silenced|date=March 14, 2012}} == Sister links == __NOTOC__ {{sisters |commons|Sandra Fluke |wikipedia|Sandra Fluke |wikisource|Author:Sandra Kay Fluke |wikiquote|Sandra Fluke }} == Sources == *{{source|url=http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/02/05/activist-sandra-fluke-says-shell-run-for-state-senate/|title=Activist Sandra Fluke Says She'll Run for State Senate|author={{w|Associated Press}}|pub=CBS Los Angeles|date=February 5, 2014}} *{{source|url=http://www.upi.com/blog/2014/02/05/Sandra-Fluke-running-for-California-state-Senate/5011391616232/|title=Sandra Fluke running for California state Senate|author=Gabrielle Levy|pub=United Press International|date=February 5, 2014}} *{{source|url=http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/sandra-fluke-announces-run-california-state-senate-n22736|title=Sandra Fluke Announces Run for California State Senate|author=Andrew Rafferty|pub=NBC News|date=February 5, 2014}} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:North America]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:California]] [[Category:Los Angeles, California]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Health]] [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:Democratic Party (United States)]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Education]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:US Congress]] [[Category:US House of Representatives]] [[Category:Sandra Fluke]] [[Category:Media]] [[Category:Georgetown University]] [[Category:Time (magazine)]] [[Category:California State Legislature]] j2xrzhvd7wzt10z00sjg01wqi36027f 0 1256119 5007968 4824170 2026-04-14T11:08:37Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007968 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|March 28, 2014}} {{Health}} The [[Planned Parenthood Federation of America]] is asking [[US]] {{w|United States federal judge|federal District Judge}} David C. Bury to grant an injunction against a new [[Arizona]] [[abortion]] law. On Wednesday Planned Parenthood and Arizona attorney Mike Tryon were in court to present their arguments. The law passed in 2012 would take effect on April 1. According to Planned Parenthood, if the law takes effect, it will prevent some women from having an abortion. The {{w|Arizona Attorney General|Arizona state Attorney General's Office}} states it is only regulating one form of abortion. Abortions are usually medical abortions, meaning medication is taken to induce abortion. The new law would only allow use of abortion medication just as approved by the {{w|Food and Drug Administration}} (FDA) or specified by the product label. It would also require they administer the medication before seven weeks into the pregnancy. Previous cut off time was set at nine weeks. It would also require the medication be administered at the abortion facility. Planned Parenthood says requiring administration at the facility is a problem particularly for those outside of cities, as the medication is administered over several days. Medical abortions commonly combine two drugs, {{w|mifepristone}} and {{w|misoprostol}}. These two drugs are taken together. Doctors don't usually give them at the "on-label" dosage. For abortions misoprostol is given at a higher amount than the label says. Planned Parenthood says when it is given at the lower level the abortions may be unsuccessful and require surgery, putting the woman at additional risk. The other drug mifepristone has the opposite problem. The FDA has not updated their approval since 2000. The FDA approval is for a larger dose. Most doctors use the two together. They have found that when the two are combined they are just as effective as mifepristone alone, at the higher dose. Planned Parenthood says the combination of the two is the safest way to have an abortion. The state says this law is part of their responsibility to protect public health. The Judge is expected to rule before April 1, when the law would take effect. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source|url=http://azstarnet.com/news/local/federal-judge-in-tucson-is-asked-to-block-abortion-drug/article_1963dae6-0f5e-5b24-ae60-4f4050e62cda.html |title=Federal judge in Tucson is asked to block abortion-drug restrictions |author=Patrick McNamara |pub=Arizona Daily Star |date=March 26, 2014 }} *{{source|url=http://www.abc15.com/news/state/federal-judge-to-rule-on-abortion-rules-injunction |title=Federal judge to rule on abortion rules injunction |author={{w|Associated Press|AP}} |pub=KNXV-TV |date=March 26, 2014 }} *{{source|url=http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local/report/032614_abortion_pills/new-az-abortion-limits-may-face-federal-injunction/ |title=New Az abortion limits may face federal injunction |author=Paul Ingram |pub=Tucson Sentinel |date=March 26, 2014 }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Health]] [[Category:Abortion]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Planned Parenthood]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Arizona]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:North America]] [[Category:Mifepristone]] phvrnbvubkqiysxwn7nbuxmf07nbqpp 0 1287233 5007992 4829878 2026-04-14T11:08:46Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007992 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Wikimediamention}} {{date|April 10, 2014}} {{obituaries}} [[File:The Impact of Wikipedia Adrianne Wadewitz.webm|thumb|left|A video from 2012 where Wadewitz discusses the impact of Wikipedia {{image credit|Vgrigas}}]] News broke early this morning on [[Facebook]] that {{w|Wikipedia|Wikipedian}} Adrianne Wadewitz died while rock climbing recently. Wadewitz was well known in the {{w|Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia}} community for her activism drawing attention to the lack of female contributors on Wikipedia. She was also very involved in the [[:meta:Wiki Education Foundation|Wiki Education Foundation]], serving as a member of its board of directors. Wadewitz was one of the most visible women in the media on the under-representation of women amongst contributors to Wikipedia, talking to media organizations like the {{w|BBC}}, the ''{{w|Huffington Post}}'' and non-English publications like {{w|LIFO (magazine)|Greek-language magazine ''LIFO''}}. Some estimates put female participation rates at around 10% of contributors and there is a body of academic work talking about systemic bias against topics featuring women on Wikipedia. She was involved in organizing several {{w|edit-a-thon|edit-a-thons}} aimed at encouraging greater female participation and improving content about women, including Wikipedia Takes America: Los Angeles, FemTech Edit-a-thon, Wikipedia Loves Eagle Rock, Wikipedia Loves WeHo, and Feminists Engage Wikipedia. Wadewitz's own work to address systemic bias as an article contributor included improving English Wikipedia articles relating to women, including: {{QuoteRight|Adrianne embodied brilliance, determination, and enthusiasm in everything she did|4=Tribute by a fellow Wikimedian}} *{{w|Mary Wollstonecraft}} *''{{w|Thoughts on the Education of Daughters}}'' *''{{w|Mary: A Fiction}}'' *''{{w|A Vindication of the Rights of Woman}}'' *''{{w|Maria: or, The Wrongs of Woman}}'' *{{w|Timeline of Mary Wollstonecraft}} *{{w|Fanny Imlay}} *{{w|Mary Shelley}} *{{w|Anna Laetitia Barbauld}} *{{w|Sarah Trimmer}} *{{w|Mary Martha Sherwood}} [[File:Flower-arrangement-funeral-white.jpg|thumb|left|The funerary arrangement picture decorating the top of Wadewitz's Wikipedia talk page.{{Image credit|[[Commons:User:Moeng|Mogens Engelund]]}}]] She started contributing to English Wikipedia in July 2004. She had taught two classes on collaborative work on the project, and was involved with FemTechNet Wikistorming, an academic effort to encourage more women involved in academia to contribute to Wikipedia. In the past month, she had written several blog entries on {{w|HASTAC}}, an online collaborative platform dedicated to changing the way people learn, about how to write about academics on Wikipedia. Fellow activist {{w|Sarah Stierch}} said in a public post on Facebook, "My heart hurts. Adrianne was a leading voice - and her legacy still is - in the work we have been doing to get more women and more diverse peoples contributing to Wikipedia. Two days ago she was quoted in the BBC, for godsake." Stierch went on to say, "A sarcastic, feminist, smart, brilliant, to the point delivery type of academic genius who held an honest love life for all to see and a life in [[Los Angeles, California|LA]] that was becoming one she owned." At the time of her death, she was a Mellon Digital Scholarship Fellow at {{w|Occidental College}}. In 2011, she earned her PhD from {{w|Indiana University}}. Wikimedians are memorializing her on her [[w:User_Talk:Wadewitz|Wikipedia talk page]], which is adorned with a picture of a funerary arrangement of flowers. A notice at the top of the page invites condolences, which have been arriving in their dozens. "This is a crushing loss, for the Wikipedia community and the world. There was no one else like her." wrote one contributor. Another noted "Adrianne embodied brilliance, determination, and enthusiasm in everything she did." {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == {{original}} *{{source|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Wadewitz&oldid=603561064|title=User:Wadewitz|author=Adrianne Wadewitz|pub=Wikipedia|date=April 10, 2014}} *{{source|url=https://www.facebook.com/adrianne.wadewitz |title=Adrianne Wadewitz |author=Adrianne Wadewitz |pub=Facebook |date=April 10, 2014 }} (access date) *{{source|url=http://www.hastac.org/about |title=About |author= |pub=HASTAC |date=April 10, 2014 }} (access date) *{{source|url=https://www.facebook.com/sarah.stierch/posts/10201683313425974 |title= |author=Sarah Stierch |pub=Facebook |date=April 10, 2014 }} *{{source|url=http://www.lifo.gr/now/world/45255|title=Άνδρες το 91% των συντακτών της Wikipedia|author=|pub=LIFO|date=April 8, 2014}} *{{source|url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adrianne-wadewitz-phd/hiking-gendered-marketing_b_4351519.html |title=Women Relax, Men Mountaineer: What Backpacks Reveal About Gendered Marketing|author=Adrianne Wadewitz and Peter James|pub=Huffington Post|date=November 27, 2013}} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:North America]][[Category:United States]][[Category:California]][[Category:Los Angeles, California]][[Category:Indiana]][[Category:Wikimedia Foundation]][[Category:Wikipedia]][[Category:Internet]][[Category:Facebook]] [[Category:Obituaries]] [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:LauraHale (Wikinewsie)]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:Wikimedia gender gap]] [[es:Fallece Adrianne Wadewitz, una activista de Wikimedia]] [[it:È morta Adrianne Wadewitz, attivista di Wikimedia]] qss5vqnld8ankzhzxeszp1cdyinpymo 0 1291484 5007993 4829877 2026-04-14T11:08:46Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007993 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Wikimediamention}} {{obituaries}} {{date|April 12, 2014}} [[File:Cindy Ashley-Nelson, 2006.jpg|thumb|left|File photo of Cynthia Ashley-Nelson from 2006 {{image credit|Cynthia Ashley-Nelson}}]] Cynthia Ashley-Nelson died the night before last while attending the {{w|sister=meta|foreign=force|Wikimedia Conference}} in [[Berlin]], [[Germany]]. She was very active in the {{w|Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia movement}}, and was named the vice-chair of Wikimedia's {{w|sister=meta|foreign=force|Affiliations Committee}} on Thursday, the day prior to her death, after only having joined the Committee earlier this year. The day before she died, she spent a lot of time talking to a number of the event's attendees and spent time with several members of the Affiliations Committee. An announcement regarding her death was made on the main Wikimedia mailing list this morning by Bence Dakamos, a conference attendee and the previous chair of the Affiliations Committee. In part, the e-mail announcement said, "We are sad beyond words and so is everyone who came to Berlin to participate in the Wikimedia Conference. Her passing is a great loss for everyone in the Wikimedia movement. This morning all the conference attendees gathered together to grieve and talk about the loss of Cindy. We decided that all of us at the Wikimedia Conference could choose to continue the conversations about the future of the movement Cindy cared so much about, as well as spending our time here to remember and celebrate her. She will be greatly missed." Fellow Affiliations Committee member {{w|User:Varnent|foreign=force|Gregory Varnum}} said, "The Lord giveth, and The Lord taketh away. While the passage of time may allow us to forgive whatever greater presence you may believe in for taking her away, the passage of time will not result in us forgetting the amazing person she was, her passion for our movement, or the brilliance she brought to her volunteer work." Wikimedia Foundation board member {{w|User:Raystorm|María Sefidari}} said in her part on her personal blog, "I got to know Cindy a bit beyond that, for she wanted to test ideas and potential directions in which to take the movement. We would send each other long emails about movement roles and how to move forward with the movement. And as it usually happens, conversations turned from the more formal to the informal, eventually including little snippets of our every day lives, the good things that happened to us and the not so good. When we met for the first time face to face two days ago, we gave each other a big hug. In the session we had during the AffCom meeting she once again showed her passion and commitment to help reimagine the role of AffCom and how to help emerging and new affiliates. And at the end of that session, she was confirmed as the new vice-chair of AffCom. That speaks to the impact she made inside the committee in such a short time. I think our last interaction was about getting together at some moment during the conference to just hang out and talk. She had a great smile." Ashley-Nelson was actively involved in many parts of the Wikimedia community beyond her position on the Affiliations Committee. She served as a moderator on the Wikimedia Foundation's {{w|sister=meta|foreign=force|gender gap|gendergap}} mailing list, a list dedicated to addressing the under representation of women as contributors. She became an {{w|sister=meta|OTRS|Open-source Ticket Request System}} agent, handling requests from Wikimedia users who had problems they needed assistance with issues like {{w|copyright}}. She was an administrator on English {{w|Wikipedia}}. She had previously been a member of Wikimedia's {{w|sister=meta|foreign=force|Grant Advisory Committee}}, where she assisted in reviewing grant applications submitted by members of the Wikimedia community. She was involved with Wikimedia's Global Education Program, assisting students and professors with improving articles about global and United States public policy. She was also involved in the education program as an Online Ambassador, a member of the Ambassador Selection Team and Wikipedia Ambassador Steering Committee. An active Wikipedia contributor since 2007, she made over 30,000 contributions to English Wikipedia. She wrote eight {{w|WP:DYK|Did You Knows}} that appeared on the front page of the project, and contributed to two {{w|WP:GAN|Good Articles}}, the ''{{w|foreign=force|Washington: A Life}}'' article and the {{w|foreign=force|Anthony Ashley-Cooper, 10th Earl of Shaftesbury}} article. The day prior to her death, she welcomed a number of new users to the project and did other editing tasks like removing copyright violations and cleaning up promotional language found in articles. A {{w|Washington|Washington state}} resident, she was the founder and Executive Director of Catalyst Resource Network, having started the organization in December 2006. During the course of her professional career, she also worked for the Sycamore Street Review as a staff writer, {{w|Hookers for Jesus}} as the organization's Vice President, the Mental Health Planning and Advisory Council for the State of Washington, and several other roles for the State of Washington. She was honored several times in connection with her work. Members of the Affiliations Committee got together for a breakfast before heading to the conference. A grief counselor was available at the conference. A brief tribute was held at the start of today's proceedings, which Sefidari described as "touching". {{haveyoursay}} == Related news == *{{wikinews|Wikimedian activist Adrianne Wadewitz dies|April 10, 2014}} == Sources == {{original}} *{{source|url=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee |title=Affiliations Committee |author= |pub=Meta-Wiki |pubtarget=m: |date=April 12, 2014 (access date) }} *{{source|url=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Cindamuse |title=User:Cindamuse |author=Cynthia Ashley-Nelson |pub=Meta-Wiki |pubtarget=m: |date=April 12, 2014 (access date) }} *{{source|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cindamuse |title=User:Cindamuse |author=Cynthia Ashley-Nelson |pub=English Wikipedia |date=April 12, 2014 (access date) }} *{{source|url=http://www.linkedin.com/in/cynthiaashleynelson |title=Cynthia Ashley-Nelson |author= |pub=LinkedIn |date=April 12, 2014 (access date) }} *{{source|url=https://tools.wmflabs.org/supercount/index.php?user=Cindamuse&project=en.wikipedia |title=Editcount: Cindamuse |author= |pub=Wikimedia Labs |pubtarget=mw:Wikimedia Labs |date=April 12, 2014 (access date) }} *{{source|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cindamuse |title=Contributions: Cindamuse |author= |pub=English Wikipedia |date=April 12, 2014 (access date) }} *{{source|url=http://mariasefidari.org/2014/04/12/cindy-in-memoriam/ |title= Cindy, in memoriam |author={{w|Wikimedia Foundation}} board member {{w|User:Raystorm|María Sefidari}} |pub=WordPress.com |date=April 12, 2014 }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Europe]][[Category:Germany]][[Category:Berlin]] [[Category:Wikimedia Foundation]][[Category:Wikipedia]][[Category:Internet]] [[Category:Obituaries]] [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:LauraHale (Wikinewsie)]] [[Category:Feminism]] [[Category:North America]][[Category:United States]] [[Category:Washington]] [[Category:Wikimedia gender gap]] [[es:Falleció Cynthia Ashley-Nelson, wikipedista y activista de Wikimedia]] [[ru:Член Викимедиа Синди Эшли-Нельсон умерла на конференции в Берлине]] km0dp1zb59i4wffpzvwnkqb2hw92e6j 14 1291926 5007929 3113359 2026-04-14T11:08:22Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007929 wikitext text/x-wiki {{WikimediaMention|item=category}} {{Topic cat |the=1 |target=meta:Gender gap |intro=a deficit of [[women]] contributing to [[Wikimedia]] projects |usage note=''Wikinews'' is a project of the Wikimedia Foundation. 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[[Category:State infoboxes]] </noinclude> s17fnzpsbn12n65vrjnv8baj0x6fmuu 3 2519194 5007669 3910019 2026-04-13T16:23:55Z Avraham 16591 Avraham moved page [[User talk:DinaKuzia]] to [[User talk:AlephreishCommons]]: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/DinaKuzia|DinaKuzia]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/AlephreishCommons|AlephreishCommons]]" 3910019 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=DinaKuzia}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 22:19, 19 October 2015 (UTC) 404ladgfy5k7g2sa6k48in23zj0mubr 0 2604142 5007966 4823860 2026-04-14T11:08:36Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007966 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|November 25, 2015}} {{Pakistan}} Marium Mukhtiar yesterday<!-- on Tuesday --> became the first [[Pakistan]]i female fighter pilot to die on duty when a jet aircraft crashed near {{w|Kundian}}, in [[Punjab (Pakistan)|Punjab]]'s {{w|Mianwali}} district. [[File:Pakistan Air Force Chengdu F-7PG inflight.jpg|thumb|left|225px|Two Pakistani F7s from file.{{Image credit|1=[http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?photographersearch=Asuspine&distinct_entry=true Asuspine]}}]] The {{w|Pakistan Air Force}} (PAF) said Flying Officer Mukhtiar and male colleague Squadron Leader Saqib Abbasi faced a "serious in-flight emergency" while training in an {{w|Chengdu J-7|F7-PG}}<!--It took some digging to establish that an FT-7PG is a mildly modified J-7; Wikipedia sensibly enough keeps them in the same article--> fighter. After taking evasive action to avoid a residential area the pilots were left with insufficient altitude to safely eject. Both ejected and were injured; Mukhtiar died in hospital whilst Abbasi sustained minor injuries. The PAF said Mukhtiar "embraced ''[[wikt:shahadat|shahadat]]'' [martyrdom] and became the first lady pilot from PAF to attain this great honour," crediting Abbasi's survival as possibly down to his escaping several seconds prior to Mukhtiar. The duo "handled the serious emergency with professionalism and courage and tried to save the ill-fated aircraft till the very last minute," according to the PAF. The PAF estimates it has around 30 female fighter pilots. The force began recruiting women in 2003 and in 2006 the nation's first seven female fighter pilots began service.<!--One source says 'gradated', another links to a 2013varticle about 'combat readyness'; this seems a fair read of the position--> {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source|url=http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/24/marium-mukhtiar-pakistan-female-fighter-pilot-dies-crash-training-exercise |title=Female Pakistani fighter pilot dies in crash during training exercise |author=Jon Boone |pub=The Guardian |date=November 24, 2015 }} *{{source|url=http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/asia/2015/11/24/Pakistan-female-fighter-pilot-dies-in-jet-crash-.html |title=Pakistan female fighter pilot dies in jet crash |author=[[Agence France-Presse|AFP]] |pub=al-Arabiya |date=November 24, 2015 }} *{{source|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34910278|title=Marium Mukhtiar, Pakistani female fighter pilot, dies in crash|author=|pub=BBC News Online|date=November 24, 2015}} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:Pakistan]] [[Category:Punjab, Pakistan]] [[Category:Disasters and accidents]] [[Category:Military]] [[Category:Aviation]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Iain Macdonald (Wikinewsie)]] pi00rhelfxef8d5kbsjp77hzpps3z3f 10 2791512 5007591 4613933 2026-04-13T14:08:56Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]] 5007591 wikitext text/x-wiki <!--Infosection--> <div style=" background: rgba(230, 1, 6, 0.9); padding: 2px; text-align: center; style; font-size: 85%; border-bottom: solid 2px #fff"><span style="color:#fff;">Related UEFA Euro 2016 news</span></div> <div style="padding-left:3px; pading-right: 0.2px; font-size: 80%; border-bottom: solid 2px #fff"> * [[UEFA Euro 2016, days 4 and 5: three wins, two draws]] * [[UEFA Euro 2016, semifinal: Portugal beats Wales 2-0]] * [[UEFA Euro 2016, days 6 and 7: four wins, two draws]] * [[UEFA Euro 2016, semifinal: hosts France beat Germany 2-0]] * [[UEFA Euro 2016, day 8: Italy-Sweden, Czech Republic-Croatia, Spain-Turkey]] </div> 542tfubwj7pdm8to2u4serbepgs2f8k 0 2798261 5007994 4830158 2026-04-14T11:08:46Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007994 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|September 14, 2016}} {{sports}} [[File:Deepa Malik completing in the Women's shot put F53 final.jpg|Deepa Malik completing in the Women's shot put F53 final {{image credit|Bidgee}}|thumb|left]] ''Wikinews'' on Sunday interviewed {{w|Deepa Malik}}, {{w|India}}'s first female {{w|Paralympics|Paralympic}} medalist, who won the silver medal in the Women's {{w|shot put|Shot Put}} F53 event finals, at the [[2016 Summer Paralympics]] being held in [[Rio de Janeiro]], [[Brazil]]. Malik lost the gold medal to {{w|Bahrain}}'s Fatema Nedham, who had the best throw 4.76 {{w|metre|metres}}, setting a new regional record in paralympic women's shot put. Arriving in Rio, Malik had initial trouble due to the airline losing her luggage; it didn't all arrive until three days later: clothes, opening ceremony outfit and equipment including competition belts. In early August there was a possibly that Malik might lose her spot on the Indian team going to Rio, with fellow female para athlete Karam Jyoti challenging Malik's selection and the Sport's Authority of Indian's selection process at the High Court of Delhi. The high court ruled against the plaintiff. Both of these events occurred against the wider backdrop of the {{w|Paralympic Committee of India}} being suspended by the {{w|International Paralympic Committee}}. The {{w|Sports Authority of India}} took final authority over the Paralympic Committee of India for sending a team to Rio, with agreement from the International Paralympic Committee; this arrangement allowed India to compete under their own flag at the 2016 Summer Paralympics. {{WNIQ|Wikinews}} Congratulations on your result. ::'''Deepa Malik''': Thank you so much. {{WNIQ}} Even though you are currently waiting in terms of the end result of the protest. ::'''DM''': Absolutely, but I'm happy with my performance, I'm happy that I could improve and I could prove myself, there were a lot of questions back home on my selection and on my hard work. My single-minded focus that I had put into this journey of being a Paralympian. Well, I am just so anxious about the results. {{WNIQ}} So how much did the court case and {{w|KLM}} losing your luggage impact on your preparations and your result today? ::'''DM''': Yes, but I'm happy that my husband was my coach here, and, so, I had huge moral support in terms of keeping my mind and everything in peace. Most of the equipment was available in the gym, we had to alter the training a bit like the throw days couldn't happen, so we instead exercised. No, I think that is what sports teaches you, you can't live on excuses, I never lived on excuses. {{WNIQ}} You work around things. ::'''DM''': Yes, that's what we do, that's what a sportsman is suppose to do, rise again, and then fall and rise, and run, and I did exactly that. {{WNIQ}} What message should other Indian women take away from your participation and result in Rio? ::'''DM''': This is going to be the first female medal that India would have ever won in Paralympics and as it is I'm working aggressively towards transforming this entire concept of empowerment for the women, especially the women in disabilities in my country. So I'm really happy that this medal give my voice more value, more strength, and I'll be able to impact even more, though on the ninth of September the Prime Minister's jury has awarded me with the award of Women Transforming India, I'm so happy that within three days of getting that award, I have added another feather to it and proved that yes this journey of ability beyond disability. And not just disability, this is a universal message that if women put their minds to their dreams they can balance it; age, gender, disability, is all a state of mind. If you put your passion and hard work, you can get it, and in the Indian scenario were they say infrastructure is a challenge, women participation that are taboo, religiously and psychologically, disabilities taken as a curse, dependability[?] increases because of lack of infrastructure, well, time to get rid of the excuses. We have to start erasing the excuses and believe your own self and that's the message I'm carrying with all the activities that I do whether it is car rallying, motorbiking or swimming across a river, every record or every unique activity that I've undertaken and just below paralysis has been aimed at changing the stereotypical image of a women and also a women in disability.  {{WNIQ}} Will you and your daughter both be trying to represent India at the {{w|2020 Summer Paralympics|2020 Games}} in {{w|Tokyo}}? ::'''DM''': I'm very sure about myself, but my daughter, though, she's a Paralympian, yes, which again was considered a huge taboo in my society that oh my god both the mother and the daughter both have a physical disability, what is going to happen to these two, but we did good and she is working as a youth council representative in the {{w|Commonwealth of Nations|Commonwealth}} countries, for the Paralympics specially, and her work though her foundation called Wheeling Happiness has earned her the young leader award from the {{w|Elizabeth II|Queen of England}}, so I guess her focus is now shifting to more on community service and empowering others and not just herself. And she is leaving on first of October to {{w|Loughborough University|Loughborough}} to do her PhD doctorate programme in disability sports psychology, I'm very sure Loughborough is going to give her a huge amount of sports [inaudible] but how much time she going to decide to devote to sports and studies is her decision entirely. That's her dream, her journey.  {{WNIQ}} How helpful was the Sports Authority of India in preparing and supporting your Rio ambitions? ::'''DM''': I think 100 per cent, because the biggest challenge we have back home is a customised training, or the infrastructure for that matter, so we were given the ability and the funds to train the way ''we'' wanted to train, and the funds were huge which were given to us, out accommodation, food, diet, physical therapist, psychologist, trainer, gym, everything was paid for, and customised, you want it and they give it. So I guess this was easy financially this time, because every expenses was taken care of, my husband could also take a sabbatical from his job and join my journey, and having him twenty-four seven and coaching me because he himself is an athlete, and have the best diet and counselling. I think it's worked wonders, so I give shout out and a huge applaud. {{WNIQ}} How important was it for you to have a carer in Rio? ::'''DM''': Yes, again we really have to appreciate the sports authority of India and also Paralympic Committee of India, which is going to start to function post-Rio in India. They were very very quick, they were very very adamant in giving the wheelchair people escorts. And I need help twenty four seven, I'm just below paralysed so it was really huge, emotionally, mentally, psychically training-wise, every way I think the situation was perfect. {{WNIQ}} Thank you for your time. ::'''DM''': Thank you. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == {{interview|left|media=audio in-person}} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Sports]] [[Category:Rio de Janeiro]] [[Category:Brazil]] [[Category:2016 Summer Paralympics]] [[Category:Bidgee (Wikinewsie)]] [[Category:Disability sport interviews]] [[Category:India]] [[Category:South America]] [[Category:Paralympics]] [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:2020 Summer Paralympics]] 6of2pzh7tt1f76rngj70m2f4nmjuulq 0 2815502 5007985 4826870 2026-04-14T11:08:43Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007985 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|May 12, 2017}} {{Crime and law}} The [[India]]n [[Supreme Court of India|Supreme Court]] yesterday<!--on Thursday--> formally began a hearing against ''{{w|triple talaq}}'', an [[Sharia|Islamic rule]] which allows men to divorce their wives instantly without the need of a judicial hearing. Activists and [[Muslim]] women have filed many petitions against [[Islam]]ic practices &mdash; triple ''talaq'', ''{{w|nikah halala}}'', and {{wikt|polygamy}} &mdash; saying they are unconstitutional and demanding {{w|gender equality}}. {{QuoteLeft|We will also examine whether triple ''talaq'' is a part of enforceable fundamental right|2=30px|3=|4=Supreme Court|5=}} A bench of five justices &mdash; Chief Justice {{w|Jagdish Singh Khehar}}, Justice {{w|Kurian Joseph}}, Justice {{w|Rohinton Fali Nariman}}, Justice {{w|Uday U. Lalit|Uday Umesh Lalit}}, and Justice {{w|S. Abdul Nazeer|S Abdul Nazeer}}, belonging to five different religions &mdash; {{w|Sikhism}}, [[Christianity]], {{w|Zoroastrianism}}, [[Hinduism]], and Islam &mdash; are to hear the case for gender equality. However, there are no women on the panel. ''Talaq'' allows a husband to effect a divorce solely by saying ''talaq'' thrice. Muslim women who are against this law say it ruins their lives and is against gender equality.<!--source? a quote would be great here--> ''Talaq'' is an {{w|Arabic language|Arabic}} word which translates to repudiation or divorce. It is a right limited to the Muslim men, to divorce their wives simply by saying ''talaq'' thrice. The announcement must be clear and unambiguous but it does not require a judicial hearing. There is a waiting time of three months &ndash; or, precisely, three menstrual cycles; called ''{{w|Iddah}}'' &mdash; in which the husband can change his decision. Once the divorce is final, it is the responsibility of the husband to pay his wife a certain sum, known as ''{{w|Mahr}}''. ''Mahr'' is declared at the time of marriage, and the husband only need pay it if ''Mahr'' was not paid before. The husband does have some continuing financial obligations to his ex-wife during ''Iddah'' and if she is pregnant, the husband must look after her until the child is born. {{QuoteRight|You are doing politics over Muslim issues|2=30px|3=|4=Maulana Syed Arshad Madani, president of Jamiat Ulama-i-Hind|5=}} In order to reconcile with her husband after the end of ''Iddah'', the divorced wife needs to marry another man, have sex with him, and divorce him to marry her former husband. The hearing allows each side two days to place their arguments and a day for {{wikt|rebuttal}}. The hearing is to finish by May 19. The court said, "We will also examine whether triple ''talaq'' is a part of enforceable {{W|fundamental right}}". A hearing on October 16, 2015 asked for separate filing for ''talaq'', ''nikah halala'', and polygamy. According to the government, these religious practices were not shielded by {{nowrap|Article 15 (1)}} of the [[Indian constitution]], which guarantees the freedom to practice any religion and those practices violate the right to equality. It states, "The State shall not discriminate against any citizen on grounds only of religion, race, caste, sex, place of birth or any of them". Last month, {{w|Allahabad}}'s High Court, in the Indian state of [[Uttar Pradesh]], said the triple ''talaq'' law was {{wikt|unilateral}}. <!-- That case, however, was not about ''triple talaq''. --> {{QuoteLeft|I have divorced him. If a man can divorce his wife that way, why can't a woman? Don't I have the same right? Am I less human than he is?|2=20px|3=|4=Amreen Begam|5=}} According to opponents of this law, husbands discarding their marriage with their wives in a moment by repeating the word often leaves their spouses helpless and eventually {{wikt|destitute}}. But according to the {{w|All India Muslim Personal Law Board}}, this hearing is unjustified. In an affidavit filed in September, they said, "If there develops serious discord between the couple, and the husband does not at all want to live with her, legal compulsions of time-consuming separation proceedings and expenses may deter him from taking the legal course. In such instances, he may resort to illegal, criminal ways of murdering or burning her alive." Though there exists a rule about {{w|Blood money (restitution)|blood money}} under Shari'a law ''{{w|Qisas}}'' and ''{{w|Diya (Islam)|Diya}}'', [[honour killing]] which was cultural tradition in India is now illegal, and punishable by death. A 2011 hearing in the Supreme Court labelled it a "slur on the nation" and said there is "nothing honourable about honour killings." The Muslim Personal Law (Shariat) Application act of 1937 says the state would not interfere in matters of personal dispute. {{w|Maulana Arshad Madani|Maulana Syed Arshad Madani}}, president of {{w|Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind|Jamiat Ulama-i-Hind}}, said this issue should be addressed outside the courts, preferably by Islamic scholars. Citing the instance of the {{w|Babri masjid}} dispute, of building a mosque on the Hindu shrines by Mughal ruler {{w|Babur}} in the city of {{w|Ayodhaya}}, considered as the birthplace of Hindu god {{w|Lord Rama|Ram}}, Madani said, "If the Supreme Court can say that the issue of Babri Masjid should be resolved outside the court, why not this issue be solved by the ''{{wikt|ulema|ulemas}}''?" He added, "You are doing politics over Muslim issues". 25-year-old Muslim woman Amreen Begum had filed a police complaint in {{w|Meerut}} against her husband for domestic violence. She, in front of the police station, shouted ''talaq'' thrice to divorce her husband. She said, "I have divorced him. If a man can divorce his wife that way, why can't a woman? Don't I have the same right? Am I less human than he is?" She added, "I want the supreme court to free Muslim women for ever from the fear of triple ''talaq''." Countries like [[Turkey]], [[Egypt]], [[Cyprus]], [[Pakistan]], [[Algeria]], [[Bangladesh]], [[Sri Lanka]], and [[Tunisia]] have already abolished this law. {{w|Beef}} is banned in various Indian states including [[Maharashtra]]. The cow is considered sacred for Hindus. Questioning the {{w|secularism}} of India, the president of Indian Islamic organisation {{w|All India Majlis-e Ittihad al-Muslimin}}, {{w|Asaduddin Owaisi}}, said in October, "If you really believe in secularism [...] why did you [[Narendra Modi|Modi]] [the Indian Prime Minister] impose beef ban in Maharashtra and why does your government want to construct a museum in the name of Ram in Ayodhya? Then why do you say state has no religion and the country has no religion?" In October, Owasi called the the {{w|Government of India|Union government}}'s affidavit against triple ''talaq'' a joke. He added, "If you really want to help Muslim women, please help Zakia Jafri whose husband (former Congress lawmaker) {{w|Ehsan Jafri}} was killed in front of her eyes, cut into pieces and set on fire. She is waiting for justice". In May, Indian industrialist {{w|Adi Godrej}} said beef ban was affecting the Indian economy and he added, "There is nothing against beef in our [Hindu] religion. It is a practice that evolved over years of drought, and the elders said don't slaughter cows, preserve them for milk for children. That has turned into a religious belief. This is ridiculous. {{w|Vedic India|Vedic Indians}} were beef-eaters." The "{{w|Sati (practice)|sati pratha}}" &mdash; a Hindu custom which violated equality rights of women, in which the wife {{wikt|immolates}} herself on her deceased husband's {{wikt|pyre}} &mdash; was banned in India in the nineteenth century after activists like {{w|Raja Ram Mohan Roy}} fought against it, and later the {{w|Sati (Prevention) Act, 1987|Sati prevention Act in 1987}} made aiding sati a criminal offense. {{q|I want the supreme court to free Muslim women for ever from the fear of triple ''talaq''.<br>&mdash;Amreen Begam}} {{haveyoursay}} == Related news == *{{wikinews|Nothing honourable in honour killings, says Indian court|Tuesday, May 10, 2011}} == Sources == *{{source |url = http://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/current-affairs/110517/is-triple-talaq-fundamental-of-islam-asks-cji-hearing-begins-in-sc.html |title = Supreme Court to examine if triple talaq is fundamental to Islam |author = |pub = Deccan Chronicle |date = May 11, 2017 }} *{{source |url = http://www.gulf-times.com/story/547654/SC-to-begin-hearing-on-validity-of-triple-talaq |title = SC to begin hearing on validity of triple talaq |author = {{w|Indo-Asian News Service|IANS}} |pub = Gulf Times |date = May 11, 2017 }} *{{source |url = http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/sc-to-examine-if-triple-talaq-is-fundamental-to-religion/article18423729.ece |title = SC to examine if triple talaq is fundamental to religion |author = |pub = The Hindu |date = May 11, 2017 }} *{{source |url = http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-39880273 |title = Triple talaq: India top court reviews Islamic instant divorce |author = |pub = BBC |date = May 11, 2017 }} *{{source |url = http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/triple-talaq-hearing-begins-supreme-court-says-won-t-examine-polygamy-among-muslims/story-BTNp1TKGTeY1Hza8l06JBL.html |title = Triple talaq hearing begins, SC says won't examine polygamy among Muslims |author = Bhadra Sinha |pub = Hindustan Times |date = May 11, 2017 }} *{{source |url = https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/may/11/turning-tables-india-instant-divorce-law |title = 'If a man can do it, why can't I?: turning the tables on India's instant divorce law |author = Amrit Dhillon |pub = The Guardian |date = May 11, 2017 }} *{{source |url = https://indiankanoon.org/doc/609295/ |title = Article 15 in The Constitution Of India 1949 |author = |pub = Indian Kanoon |date = May 11, 2017 ''(date of access)'' }} *{{source |url = http://indianexpress.com/article/research/from-pakistan-to-egypt-the-muslim-countries-that-have-moved-ahead-from-triple-talaq-4617641/ |title = From Pakistan to Egypt, the Muslim countries that have moved ahead from Triple Talaq |author = Radhika Iyengar |pub = Indian Express |date = April 20, 2017 }} *{{source |url = http://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/politics/201016/if-you-really-believe-in-secularism-why-ban-beef-in-maharashtra-owaisi-on-ucc.html |title = 'If you really believe in secularism, why ban beef in Maharashtra: Owaisi on UCC |author = {{w|Press Trust of India|PTI}} |pub = Deccan Chronicle |date = October 20, 2016 }} *{{source |url = http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/beef-madhya-pradesh-video-cow-vigilantes-gau-rakshaks-2938751/ |title = Beef row: Where it is illegal and what the law says |author = |pub = The Indian Express |date = July 27, 2016 }} *{{source |url = http://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/current-affairs/120516/beef-ban-hurting-india-s-economy-says-industrialist-adi-godrej.html |title = Beef ban hurting India's economy, says industrialist Adi Godrej |author = |pub = Deccan Chronicle |date = May 12, 2016 }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[CAT:India]] [[CAT:Crime and law]] [[CAT:Islam]] [[Category:Religion]] [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:Shari'a]] [[Category:Acagastya (Wikinewsie)]] [[Category:Supreme Court of India]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Constitution of India]] cio6bhdpknmdtcia1z22pkkm0djw8o7 0 2819841 5007936 4813004 2026-04-14T11:08:24Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007936 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Science and technology}} {{date|July 21, 2017}} <!-- substitutes the date automatically; you don't need to modify the template --> A group of [[Afghanistan|Afghan]] teenagers was awarded a silver medal for "courageous achievement" on Tuesday in the {{w|For Inspiration and Recognition of Science and Technology|FIRST}} Global Challenge [[Robotics|Robot]] Olympics in the {{w|Daughters of the American Revolution Constitution Hall}} in [[Washington D.C.]]<!--Al Jazeera, NYTimes--> The six-member<!--Hindustan Times--> Afghan team, which consists entirely of girls, had been denied visas to enter the [[United States]] until last week,<!--CBS video--> drawing notice from critics of U.S. President [[Donald Trump]]'s policies regarding [[Islam|Muslims]] traveling to the U.S.<!--ABC and Independent--> The President later personally took action to allow the team into the country. According to Afghan Ambassador to the United States {{w|Hamdullah Mohib}}, the participation of this team in this science competition shows progress in Afghanistan's response to nearly {{w|War in Afghanistan (2001–14)|two decades of military conflict}}.<!--ABC and others--> [[FILE:WashMonument WhiteHouse.jpg|left|thumb|200px|The first FIRST Global robotics competition was held this week in Washington D.C. {{image|{{w|United States Navy}}}}]] The FIRST Global competition (For Inspiration and Recognition of Science and Technlogy) was founded by {{w|Dean Kamen}} to encourage interest in applied science, technology, engineering, and mathematics in young people<!--press release-->. This year's theme was {{w|water security}}<!--press release-->. For the contest, the robots were required to recognize, pick up, carry, and deposit balls colored blue and orange to represent water and pollution, respectively. Teams from different countries were arranged in groups of three, and groups faced off in pairs. The group whose three robots collectively earned the most points won that match. According to the Afghan team's coach, Alireza Mehraban, in their first matchup, the Afghan team's robot, named "Better Idea of Afghan Girls,"<!--NYTimes--> scored one or two points for the three-nation alliance with the [[Gabon|Gabonese]] and [[Estonia|Estonian]] teams.<!--CBS--> This year, the European team won the competition overall, with the silver medal going to [[Poland]] and the bronze to [[Armenia]].<!--Al Jazeera--> "We are so interested because we find a big chance to show the talent and ability of Afghans," team member Rodaba Noori told the press, "to show that Afghan women can make robots too and we can improve in this section &mdash; [the] robotics section. We were so interested because we hadn't long or enough time to get ready for competition but we came to United States and now we are here because of Trump intervention."<!--Hindustan Times--> The team arrived in Washington D.C. after many difficulties. They were twice denied visas to enter the United States. Even applying for a visa required the entire team to travel about 500 {{w|mile|miles}} (800 {{w|kilometre|km}}) from {{w|Herat}}, their home, to the capital in [[Kabul]], through territory controlled by the [[Taliban]]. They made the trip twice and were turned down both times. President [[Donald Trump]] personally<!--CBS video, Hindustan Times--> asked the {{w|United States National Security Council}} to help the girls enter the country. After some interplay between the {{w|US State Department|State}} and {{w|US Department of Homeland Security|Homeland Security}} Departments, the girls were granted "parole" status on the grounds that their entry would be a "significant public benefit."<!--ABC News--> The President has drawn both praise for helping the girls enter the U.S. and criticism for his travel ban, which does not cover Afghanistan, and for the atmosphere of hostility toward [[Islam|Muslims]] that critics blame for denying them entry in the first place.<!--Independent--> Citing privacy rules, U.S. officials have not said why the team was initially denied visas, but Afghan Ambassador {{w|Hamdullah Mohib}} says there were concerns they would attempt to remain in the United States<!--CBS--> or in [[Canada]]<!--ABC--> after the contest. Afghanistan is not one of the nations covered by President Trump's travel ban, but teams from [[Sudan]], [[Iran]], [[Libya]], and [[Yemen]], which are covered, are among the 163 teams in the competition.<!--CBS video--> There were also two [[Syria|Syrian]] teams scheduled to compete, one national and one made up of refugees.<!--press release--> Syria and all refugees are covered by the ban.<!--source from previous article--> The Syrian refugee team listed their country as "Hope" on the backs of their shirts<!--Video and Al Jazeera--> and named their robot "Robogee."<!--Al Jazeera--> Teams from [[Morocco]]<!--NYTimes--> and Iran<!--NYTimes and Al Jazeera--> both had difficulties getting themselves or their robots across the U.S. border. Team Estonia had to rebuild their robot entirely after the original disappeared in transit.<!--NYTimes--> "Seventeen years ago, this would not have been possible at all," said Ambassador Mohib. "They represent our aspirations and resilience despite having been brought up in a perpetual conflict. These girls will be proving to the world and the nation that nothing will prevent us from being an equal and active member of the international community."<!--ABC and others--> Every team in the contest was sent a collection of robot parts roughly four months in advance of the competition. The Afghan team's supplies were delayed, leaving them only two weeks left to assemble their robot and only one day to test it before packing it up to mail to the competition site.<!--CBS--> The competition ended on Tuesday.<!--CBS--> This is the first FIRST Global competition, and the organization plans to hold the contest in a different country every year.<!--press release--> Next year's competition is scheduled to take place in [[Mexico City]].<!--Al Jazeera--> {{haveyoursay}} ==Related news== *{{wikinews|Travel ban 2.0 exempts Iraqis, U.S. permanent residents|March 9, 2017}} == Sources == *{{source|pub=Al Jazeera|date=July 19, 2017|title=Afghan girls team shines at US robotics competition|url=http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/07/afghan-girls-team-shines-robotics-event-170719051830661.html|author=}} *{{source|pub=The New York Times|author=Emily Cochrane|url=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/18/world/asia/afghanistan-girls-robotics-visas-trump.html?_r=0|date=July 18, 2017|title=Afghan Girls’ Robotics Team Wins Limelight at Competition}} *{{source |url = http://www.cbsnews.com/news/afghan-girls-robotics-team-competes-after-visa-obstacles/ |title = Afghan girls robotics team competes after visa obstacles |author = |pub = CBS |date = July 17, 2017 }} *{{source |url = http://www.hindustantimes.com/videos/world-news/afghan-robotics-team-arrive-in-us-after-trump-s-intervention/video-aMzvC62NRRgFM5SVtQyMxK.html |title = Afghan robotics team arrive in US after Trump's intervention |author = |pub = Hindustan Times |date = July 17, 2017 }} *{{source |url = http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-us-president-afghanistan-kerat-all-girl-robotics-team-enter-us-visa-a7843666.html |title = Donald Trump praised for allowing Afghan all-girl robotics team to enter US despite twice denying them visas |author = Lucy Pasha-Robinson |pub = The Independent |date = July 17, 2017 }} *{{source |url = http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/allowed-trump-afghan-girls-robotics-team-lands-dc-48653027 |title = Afghan girls robotics team arrives in US just in time |author = Josh Lederman ([[Associated Press|AP]]) |pub = ABC News (United States) |date = July 15, 2017 }} *{{source |url = http://us15.campaign-archive1.com/?u=e9ba9bcc3df83886d5c60a386&id=725df724e7 |title = A Whole New Kind of Olympics! FIRST Global to Host More than 150 Nations in U.S. Capital for World's 1st High School-level Robot Olympics |author = Press release |pub = FIRST Global |date = March 30, 2017 }} ==External links== *[http://first.global/fgc/the-event/ 2017 FIRST Global Challenge] {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[CAT:United States]] [[CAT:Afghanistan]] [[CAT:Science and technology]] [[CAT:Robotics]] [[Category:North America]] [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:Washington, D.C.]] 6fglth5vabpr5544zr8sta1mcf7u7gj 15 2820368 5007983 4589775 2026-04-14T11:08:43Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007983 wikitext text/x-wiki *{{tl|source|url=|title=|author=|pub=|date=}}{{ping|Pi zero}} Thoughts on [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Serena_Williams&diff=4333290&oldid=4333205 this]? (cc {{ping|Acagastya}}) [[User:Hmlarson|Hmlarson]] ([[User talk:Hmlarson|talk]]) 20:58, 26 July 2017 (UTC) : Let's not add the category and create the snowball problem. Women's category is too vague and isn't really meaningful. What do we want next, adding the category to every article mentioning a person?<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="font-family:Helvetica; color:rgb(153, 68, 2);">acagastya</span>]] PING ME! 07:46, 27 July 2017 (UTC) :: When one article category (such as CAT:Serena Williams) belongs to another article category (such as CAT:Tennis), it is generally understood as either a suggestion that articles in the one category should considered for addition to the other, or, in some cases, as an effective mandate that they should be added to the other. (Whether it's a suggestion or a mandate depends on the categories involved.) I agree, we don't want to end up adding to every article in which one of the principals is a woman; besides being a staggering amount of work, it would not result in a useful CAT:Women. <p> We are going to have to &mdash; in our {{wikt|copious free time}} &mdash; study the entire collection of articles that now belong to CAT:Women, understand what they were selected for, and decide what is best to be done with them. Perhaps they will be redistributed to other existing category, either existing or perhaps also to one or more new ones we create; it depends on what we find when we study them. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 12:57, 27 July 2017 (UTC) q6zb8wfzoftc4a7k472n7zo2sgmwkbs 0 2828040 5007971 4824630 2026-04-14T11:08:38Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007971 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|November 11, 2017}}{{Qatar}} On Thursday, [[Qatar]]'s royal decree announced 28 new members were appointed for the country's {{W|Consultative Assembly of Qatar|Shura Council}}. Four of those members are women, marking it the first time Qatar has appointed women for the council responsible for discussing drafting of laws and government policies. Hind Abdul Rahman al-Muftah, {{W|Hessa Al Jaber|Dr. Hessa Sultan al-Jaber}}, Reem al-Mansoori, and Aisha Yousef al-Mannai are the new female appointees for the 45-member council. The decree was issued by Emir {{W|Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani}}. Dr Hessa al-Jaber had previously served as Communication and Information Technology minister. She was sworn in on June 26, 2013, and was nominated by emir Al Thani. Dr Jaber wasn't the first woman to enter politics in Qatar. In 2003, {{W|Sheikha Ahmed al-Mahmoud}} became the first woman to join the Qatari cabinet, and served as Education Minister. Dr Ghalia Al Thani was the only other woman, until Dr Jaber's nomination in 2013, to serve as a minister for the Qatari government. She was Qatar's Public Health Minister. With the ongoing regional crisis between [[Bahrain]], [[Egypt]], [[Saudi Arabia]], and the [[United Arab Emirates]] against Qatar, the Qatari government brought some changes to their laws in the last five months. Resident law was amended and they modified labour laws for foreign workers working for the preparations for the 2022 {{W|FIFA World Cup}}. [[FIFA]] (Fédération Internationale de Football Association) is already facing charges over mistreatment of labourers in Qatar for building stadiums. Per research conducted by [[New York]]-based organisation [[Human Rights Watch]], workers had to work in extreme climate for stadium construction. Last month, Qatar's Government Communications Office director Sheik Saif Al Thani told ''[[CNN]]'' labour laws were under review to guarantee "migrant workers receive the necessary on-site protections". {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source |url = https://www.yahoo.com/news/qatar-appoints-women-shura-council-first-time-180100451.html |title = Qatar appoints women to Shura Council for first time |author = [[Agence France-Presse|AFP]] |pub = Yahoo! News |date = November 9, 2017 }} *{{source |url = http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/11/qatar-appoints-women-shura-council-171109165044169.html |title = Qatar appoints four women to Shura Council |author = |pub = Al Jazeera |date = November 9, 2017 }} *{{source |url = http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/27/football/qatar-2022-world-cup-workers-heat-humidity-human-rights-watch/index.html |title = Migrant workers subjected to heat and humidity being put at risk, says Human Rights Watch |author = Aimee Lewis |pub = CNN |date = September 27, 2017 }} *{{source |url = https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/oct/10/fifa-faces-legal-challenge-over-qatar-migrant-workers-world-cup-2022 |title = Fifa faces legal challenge over Qatar migrant workers |author = Owen Gibson |pub = The Guardian |date = October 10, 2016 }} *{{source |url = https://dohanews.co/new-emir-appoints-female-cabinet-member-in-qatar/ |title = New Emir appoints female Cabinet member in Qatar government shake-up |author = |pub = Doha News |date = June 26, 2013 }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Qatar]] [[Category:Middle East]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[fr:Qatar : quatre femmes nommées au Conseil de rédaction de la loi]] [[Category:Acagastya (Wikinewsie)]] bzgiz26cyssa04w8bn5metemyt13qq8 10 2829280 5007905 4367338 2026-04-14T10:33:29Z Koavf 5879 /* Usage */ 5007905 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Documentation subpage}} <!-- PLEASE ADD CATEGORIES AND INTERWIKIS AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE --> {{possible-risk}} === Usage === Parameters: * <code>quote</code>&nbsp;– what was said * <code>author</code>&nbsp;– name of the speaker * <code>who</code>&nbsp;– qualifying description of the speaker * <code>float</code>&nbsp;– where to float to; default <code>left</code> * <code>headattrib</code>&nbsp;– put attribution at head instead of foot if non-blank; default blank * <code>dir</code>&nbsp;– text direction; default <code>ltr</code> * <code>width</code>&nbsp;– width of the block; default <code>50%</code> * <code>size</code>&nbsp;– font size; default <code>1.375rem</code> <!-- === See also === --> <includeonly> <!-- CATEGORIES AND INTERWIKIS HERE, THANKS --> [[CAT:Quotation templates]] </includeonly> gobeqyszfkymhrk7f0szx1d64378b85 10 2845400 5007552 4413370 2026-04-13T12:50:57Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Remove DPL, replacing with static list [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]] 5007552 wikitext text/x-wiki <!--Infosection--> <div style=" background: #015386; padding: 2px; padding-top: 10px; padding-bottom:10px; text-align: center; font-family: Didot, Bodoni, Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, serif; style; font-size: 125%; color:#fff;">More from 2018 FIFA World Cup</div> <div style="padding-left:3px; pading-right: 0.2px; font-size: 90%; border-bottom: solid 2px #fff"> * [[FIFA World Cup 2018 Day 2: Uruguay, Iran win three points each with late goals; Portugal-Spain share the spoils]] * [[FIFA World Cup 2018 semifinals: Umtiti scores only goal, France reaches finals beating Belgium]] * [[FIFA World Cup 2018 day three: France, Denmark and Croatia wins three points; Argentina shares the spoils with debutants Iceland]] * [[FIFA World Cup 2018 semifinals: Croatia sends England home, 2-1]] * [[FIFA World Cup 2018 day four: Mexico beats Germany; Serbia leads Group E, Brazil shares the spoils with Swiss]] </div> btucahc1m77x8v53panp4rwliztp388 0 2890921 5007956 4819909 2026-04-14T11:08:32Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007956 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|March 6, 2020}}{{India}} Yesterday<!--On Thursday-->, an all-women crew ran the [[Mysuru]]&ndash;[[Bengaluru]] {{w|Tippu Express}} in the [[India]]n state of [[Karnataka]]. The state-run [[Indian Railways]] launched this event ahead of [[International Women's Day]], for promoting gender equality at work places. [[File:All-women crew steers Tippu Express (3).jpg|left|thumb|All-women crew prior to the departure of {{w|Tippu Express}} on Thursday. {{image|{{w|Mysore railway division|Mysore Division}}, {{w|South Western Railway zone|South Western Railway}}}}]] B Shiva Parvathi <!-- now that is an interesting name --> was running the train as loco pilot (locomotive pilot), and 22-year-old Rangoli Patil was her loco co-pilot. The train left {{w|Mysore Junction}} railway station at {{nowrap|11:30 am}} {{w|Indian Standard Time|IST}} (0600 {{w|Universal Coordinate Time|UTC}}), covering a distance of 139{{w|kilometre|km}} to reach {{w|KSR Bangalore}} station. The train had banners on it which mentioned "International Women's Day Celebration". Speaking to newspaper ''{{w|Star of Mysore}}'', B Shiva Parvathi said, "It is a proud moment for me to be steering this train today along with my Loco Pilot Rangoli and the all-women staff". Mysore Divisional Railway Manager Aparna Garg told ''Wikinews'' only 10% of the employees in the {{w|Mysore railway division|Mysore Division}} were women, which constitutes about 650 female employees. Mysore district comes under the {{w|South Western Railway zone|South West Railway}} (SWR) branch of the Indian Railway. Mysore Division of the SWR celebration of the Women's day started on {{nowrap|March 1}}, and is planned till {{nowrap|March 10}}. Various activities are being conducted in this period, including health check-ups, yoga, sports competition and trekking, newspaper ''{{w|The Hindu}}'' reported. "The theme 'Equal for All' is an effort of the Railways to promote more women workforce and empower them. Women of today are no less to any men, be it in any field. I hope through such initiatives, more number of women are motivated to take up jobs in their respective fields of interest", Garg told ''Star of Mysore''. {{picture select |width=525px |[[File:All-women crew steers Tippu Express (2).jpg|center|thumb|400px|{{image|Mysore Division, {{w|South Western Railway zone|South Western Railway}}}}]] |[[File:All-women crew steers Tippu Express (1).jpg|center|thumb|400px|{{image|Mysore Division, {{w|South Western Railway zone|South Western Railway}}}}]] |[[File:All-women crew steers Tippu Express (4).jpg|center|thumb|400px|{{image|Mysore Division, {{w|South Western Railway zone|South Western Railway}}}}]] }} {{HYS}} == Sources == {{Original}} *{{source |url = https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/all-woman-crew-steers-tipu-express/article30993247.ece |title = All-woman crew steers Tipu Express |author = |pub = The Hindu |date = March 5, 2020 }} *{{source |url = https://starofmysore.com/ahead-of-international-womens-day-all-women-crew-steers-mysuru-bengaluru-train/ |title = Ahead of International Women’s Day: All-women crew steers Mysuru-Bengaluru train |author = |pub = Star of Mysore |date = March 5, 2020 }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Mysore]] [[Category:Bengaluru]] [[Category:Karnataka]] [[Category:India]] [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:International Women's Day]] [[Category:Indian Railways]] [[Category:Acagastya (Wikinewsie)]] [[hu:incubator:Wn/hu/A nőnap alkalmából női személyzettel futott az indiai Tippu Expressz]] 176f2lblu9rwtx9ektqcy7byi5msmnp 0 2891006 5007995 4830067 2026-04-14T11:08:47Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007995 wikitext text/x-wiki {{DISPLAYTITLE:<em>Wikinews</em> discusses International Women's Day celebration with Mysore Divisional Railway Manager}}{{date|March 8, 2020}} This Thursday, an all-women crew ran the [[Mysore]]&ndash;[[Bangalore]] {{w|Tippu Express}} in the [[India]]n state of [[Karnataka]]. The state-run [[Indian Railways]] launched this event ahead of [[International Women's Day]], for promoting gender equality at work places. Aparna Garg &mdash; who has been the Divisional Railway Manager (DRM) for Mysore Division for almost two years &mdash; discussed this initiative with ''Wikinews''. International Women's Day is observed on March 8. == Interview == {{WNI first question}} '''Good afternoon, ma'am. Thank you for agreeing to this interview. Allow me to congratulate Mysuru Division for this all-women crew &mdash; the crew which ran the Tippu Express from Mysore to Bangalore on Thursday. How many employees were there in this all-women crew?''' [[File:Mysore Divisional Railway Manager Aparna Garg (original file).jpg|right|thumb|Aparna Garg, the Mysore Divisional Railway Manager discussed about this year's initiatives for International Women's Day by South Western Railway's Mysore division with ''Wikinews'' {{image|[[User:Acagastya|acagastya]]}}]] {{WNIR|Aparna Garg}} There were fifteen of them. A crew per-se combines only the loco pilot (locomotive pilot) and the guard. But all the people who ran [the train], it includes the ticket checking staff, the escort staff, the RPF (Railway Police Force) staff. So combining everybody, it was around fifteen people. {{WNIQ}} '''How rare is it to have all-women crew running the train?''' {{WNIR|Aparna Garg}} Yeah, it is really rare. Actually, we are in a process of a ten-day campaign for International Women's Day and we have lined up one activity each day. So this initiative was a part of that campaign. {{WNIQ}} ''' Was it the first time an all-women crew ran the train in the Southern Western Railway?''' {{WNIR|Aparna Garg}} No, not really. It has been done in other divisions as well. Mysore, maybe the first time. {{WNIQ}} '''Has it ever happened before in any other regional divisions which you are aware of?''' {{WNIR|Aparna Garg}} I think in Bangalore they did a little bit. Whether it was all-women, but they did run a train. And all-India basis also they have done. {{WNIQ}} '''Could you please tell us more about this feat, and when was this planned?''' [[File:All-women crew steers Tippu Express (5).jpg|left|thumb|All women-crew before Thursday's journey from Mysore to Bangalore {{image|South Western railway, Indian Railways}}]] {{WNIR|Aparna Garg}} As I told you, that we have a ten-day campaign running for International Women's Day, the theme of which is "Each for Equal". And "Each for Equal" is basically each of us can contribute in creating a gender-equal world. Each area they [women] are working, it is not getting highlighted at all. There are basically male-dominated areas where earlier women were not coming. But nowadays, we see in large number, the women come. And in railways, these are [rare] works: loco pilot, working as a keyman; keyman means basically it is designation "keyman" but when woman works, it could be keywoman: they have to patrol on the tracks. So there are these people who are working so hard, [?] checking the trains completely. So that is why we decided to give it publicity and make it an all-women crew. [[File:All-women crew steers Tippu Express (2).jpg|right|thumb|{{image|South Western railway, Indian Railways}}]] {{WNIQ}} '''Was this event planned by the Southern Western Railway, or was it an Indian Railways initiative?''' {{WNIR|Aparna Garg}} This was an initiative of Mysore Division. Mysore Division is a part of South Western Railway. {{WNIQ}} '''What has the Indian Railways planned for this International Women's Day?''' {{WNIR|Aparna Garg}} They have given a theme of different things to be done. The campaign theme, as I told you, "Each for Equal", which can significantly and collectively, each one of us can help create a gender-equal world. And from 1st of March to 10th of March we have to celebrate, then we have to organise some talks, lectures; then, basically, anything which comes in the public purview to highlight the steps taken by Indian Railways for the empowerment of women, enhancing the role of women in all fields. And [...] basically take steps for the female staff of our division. Social media posts we have to do of whatever we are doing [for the celebration]. Women-specific videos, we have to add. What we are doing in Mysore division, we did a couple of activities: [...] we had a medical check-up, specifically screening for cervical cancer. Not only for the staff working in the office, but also for the contract staff. The cleaning staff which you see on the station, they are not permanent employees. And they don't have access to good health. There are a lot of ladies working there. Today, I took a lot of ladies who were working in the division office as well as our field for a trek to {{w|Chamundeshwari Temple|Chamundi Temple}}. So we went [in the] morning there. And tomorrow we have some event planned. {{WNIQ}} '''Could you please tell us about this year's theme, the celebration of Women's Day, and how is it different from last year's?''' {{WNIR|Aparna Garg}} Last year, it was basically focused on the particular day, 8th [March] alone. The idea of spreading it over ten days is very significant. {{WNIQ}} '''What are the activities planned in this phase?''' {{WNIR|Aparna Garg}} Basically our aim is to encourage lot of participation by women employees in different activities other than their office work, so they get a break. This is for our own employees. Promote them. Encourage them. Create awareness about their own talent. Like, within the office, we organised "pick-and-speak" or some things like that and a lot of such events, where we found that even our Group D staff are so talented, some of them. So basically giving them a break from their routine. That was one for our female employees. And we are trying to take care of the staff that are working at the station as well as to the women passengers providing enhanced security. {{WNIQ}} '''Would you call this event a success?''' {{WNIR|Aparna Garg}} Yeah, so far, yes. {{WNIQ}} '''What are the challenges faced by women working for Indian Railways?''' {{WNIR|Aparna Garg}} Challenges, I would say, are the same as you find in the society. For a women to achieve something, is not as easy as it is for a man. They have to put double the effort, and the recognition comes very late. And then women are multi-tasking everywhere. So a lady who comes to work in the office: first sees her house and then she comes [to work] and then again she goes back and she does [household work]. So she is much more pressure, and I find them very sincere. Despite all the pressure, I find them extremely sincere and dedicated. {{WNIQ}} '''What are the possible remedies to these issues?''' {{WNIR|Aparna Garg}} Issues are basically: celebration of Women's Day and all these events, they do bring women in focus. But what is required at large is a change in the society and the mindset, which should begin in each house. And if we have boys in the house and we have male colleagues, we have to sensitise them more. And so that, once we have the support of these people and their mindset changes, and that is how we can influence the collective consciousness. {{WNIQ}} '''What is the gender-distribution ratio at the Mysore Division branch?''' {{WNIR|Aparna Garg}} Mysore Division, we have ten percent only women employees. Out of a total of, say, 6900 [employees], we have around 650. So that is around ten percent. {{WNIQ}} '''Are you happy with this number?''' {{WNIR|Aparna Garg}} Yeah, it is okay. See, the idea is: each according to their choice. The people who have chosen [to work here] have gotten. I personally don't believe in this too much of gender-bias. They are all individuals. {{WNIQ}} '''Has this number been improving in the past years?''' {{xQuote|quote=More number of women getting into technical fields has been a big change.|author=Aparna Garg|who=Mysore Divisional Railway Manager|float=right|width=35%}} {{WNIR|Aparna Garg}} It has improved. It has improved, it was around seven or eight percent, over the two years it has increased. More number of women getting into technical fields has been a big change. Earlier it wasn't coming. You would find in office staff, okay, which is a ministerial cadre. But now, getting women employees in loco pilot category, in station masters, as guards, as pointswoman: they are all working [on] track, as carriage and wagon helpers. So yes, there has been a change. [Women] loco pilots are coming in a big wave. And it is not a very difficult job. The duty hours is eight-hours. So once they cover eight hours, they change. So it is not that in some remote areas they have to drive. No. Eight hours, their shift changes. So if a loco pilot starts from here, maybe at {{w|Arsikere}} or some place, they will change. So we have something called running rooms, where the have all the facilities. So they deboard there, and after taking due rest, they take a train back to their home place. So yes, ladies are coming in a big wave. {{WNIQ}} '''What are the steps Indian Railways is taking for improving this number?''' {{WNIR|AN}} There is not [gender-based] reservation per-se, [from] what I know, but Indian [Railways] has been very open about it. Now you see DRM's, I am sitting here. There was a time when the number of ladies who'd become DRM was very less. So now, we have around 60 division, maybe eight are women. So the numbers: everywhere it is going up. It has been very positive about it. [[File:Map of Mysore Division of South Western Railway.jpg|right|thumb|Map of Mysore Division of the {{w|South Western Railway zone|South Western Railway}} {{image|South Western Railway, Indian Railways}}]] {{WNIQ}} '''Can you brief me your role as Mysore Divisional Railway Manager?''' {{WNIR|Aparna Garg}} As Divisional Railway Manager, I am in charge of all the operations, all the train running, and my division is around 1300 route {{w|kilometre|kilometres}}. It extends from {{w|Chamarajanagar}}. It goes right up to, just short of {{w|Hubli}} up to {{w|Karajagi}}. And on the other side, next to {{w|Tumkur|Tumkuru}}. It starts and then goes up to {{w|Mangalore}} this side. Including {{w|Hassan, Karnataka|Hassan}} and some more branch lines are there which goes up to {{w|Chikmagalur}} and goes up to {{w|Raidurga}}. So this is my jurisdiction. I have a set of 30 officers with me. A lot of supervisors and other staff. Total staff, I told you, is around 6900 for Mysore division. And controlling everyday basically taking the team along, taking decisions, small-small decisions which help in running of the train, carrying out all the initiatives and directions of the ministry is my job. {{WNIQ}} '''For how long have you been working here as the Mysore Division Railway Manager?''' {{WNIR|Aparna Garg}} I will be completing my two years' tenure in April. {{WNIQ}} '''Can you please brief me about your career highlights so far?''' {{WNIR|Aparna Garg}} My career highlights have been opting for civil services at a very young age, in my first attempt was [the] first important step in my career. Otherwise in my student days there were many things that I did. I was a student leader. I had other achievements. But coming to the career, and thereafter, I [had] initially joined {{w|Western Railways|Western Railway}}. But then came down to South, and I worked in different capacities. Then, after a few years into the service, I was selected for the Chevening Fellowship in [the] [[UK]], where I did my advanced masters and postgraduate in {{w|transport economics}}. That was a big achievement because very few years into service having been selected for that: it was a completely scholarship programme, I did not have to pay for it. So that was a big achievement. Then, while I was posted in the construction wing, making a software programme for: making means piloting a {{w|State of the art|state of art}} system [which was] [[Oracle Corporation|Oracle]]-based for project management. It was integrated with {{w|financial management}} personal management system as well as store's {{w|materials management|material management}}. So piloting that completely, that I would call it as a big highlight. And then getting posted as a Divisional Railway Manager: there were a lot of challenges. Challenge was: the railway station which you see, it was a big project. Working station, improving that, improving the circulating area and then retaining the heritage, and enhancing it faced a lot of flak and opposition also. Because when we do the work, everything looks like in the stage of construction. So you get all type[s] of things. And then still continuing to do; and I have taken a few more challenging works in the division. One is adjacent to our sports ground, there is [an] area which is not very clean. So I have decided to clean it up and make it an ecospace. That project we are working on. The railway museum, which is a must-visit for people, and it's been a 40 years old museum. [In 19]79-80 it was established in a small area. After that, it has not been taken care of so much that the condition was not good. And this was a sanctioned project ten years back. But work had not happened. It was very very challenging what we have done. And we are soon going to open it on 14th. [...] Even Mysore Yard remodelling. We were not able to push our trains from all the platforms towards {{w|Ashokapuram, Mysore|Ashokapuram}}-side. And we were not able to simultaneously receive train from Hassan-side and SBC ({{w|KSR Bangalore}})-side. If a train from Bangalore-side is coming, that would stop. So there were a lot of yard changes which had to be done. Including our interlocking software. This was also very challenging which required a year of planning. We did this successfully. So like this, there were small-small works which were all pending, and which were not done. So we have done a very comprehensive work. But credit will go to the team also. {{WNIQ}} '''How is South West Railway and Mysore Division taking precaution against the spread of [[COVID-19|coronavirus]]?''' {{WNIR|Aparna Garg}} My CMD [Chief Health Director], I have been talking to her everyday. We have an isolation ward in the hospital but at the station, I think, we are playing a clip about the precautions to be taken. If we come to know, we should take more cautions. Basically the citizens have travelled to these places: like [[China]], [[South Korea]] and people from the far East have been coming. So we should announce and we should isolate them. We are yet to put a segregated space in station. That we have not done. But I think, announcements and all we are doing. And if I come to know here, masks and all: we are distributing. And more important is here, the staff who is dealing with the public on a daily basis like out ticket collectors and guards and all, they have been given masks. {{WNIQ}} '''Thank you very much. That would be all the questions I had for you.''' {{picture select |width=525px |[[File:All-women crew steers Tippu Express (4).jpg|center|thumb|400px|{{image|Mysore Division, {{w|South Western Railway zone|South Western Railway}}}}]] |[[File:All-women crew steers Tippu Express (6).jpg|center|thumb|400px|{{image|Mysore Division, {{w|South Western Railway zone|South Western Railway}}}}]] |[[File:All-women crew steers Tippu Express (7).jpg|center|thumb|400px|{{image|Mysore Division, {{w|South Western Railway zone|South Western Railway}}}}]] |[[File:All-women crew steers Tippu Express (8).jpg|center|thumb|400px|{{image|Mysore Division, {{w|South Western Railway zone|South Western Railway}}}}]] |[[File:All-women crew steers Tippu Express (1).jpg|center|thumb|400px|{{image|Mysore Division, {{w|South Western Railway zone|South Western Railway}}}}]] |[[File:All-women crew steers Tippu Express (3).jpg|center|thumb|400px|{{image|Mysore Division, {{w|South Western Railway zone|South Western Railway}}}}]] }} {{haveyoursay}} == Related news == * {{wikinews|Indian Railway: all-women crew steers Tippu Express ahead of International Women's Day|March 6, 2020}} == Sister links == {{sisters|commons|File:Interview with Aparna Garg.flac}} == Sources == {{interview|left|media=audio in-person}} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:India]] [[Category:International Women's Day]] [[Category:Mysore]] [[Category:Karnataka]] [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:Indian Railways]] [[Category:Acagastya (Wikinewsie)]] [[Category:Bengaluru]] e5pztjmxin0f9ppvp7rxn1vk00wuwer 0 2891974 5007963 4820213 2026-04-14T11:08:34Z Koavf 5879 Removing from [[Category:Women]] using [[c:Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]] 5007963 wikitext text/x-wiki {{DISPLAYTITLE:Iranian International Master Dorsa Derakhshani discusses her chess career with <em>Wikinews</em>}} {{date|April 14, 2020}} [[File:Dorsa Derakhshani.png|right|thumb|{{w|Dorsa Derakhshani}} in {{w|Baku}}, 2017{{image|paren=true|Gibraltar Chess Festival}}]] In February 2017, the [[Iran]]ian Chess Federation announced two teenage [[chess]] players, {{w|Dorsa Derakhshani}} and her younger brother Borna Derakhshani, were banned from representing the national team. The federation announced their decision although Dorsa Derakhshani had previously decided and informed the chess federation she did not wish to play for Iran. Dorsa Derakhshani is currently 21 years old and holds the {{w|International Master}} (IM) as well as {{w|Woman Grand Master}} (WGM) titles. Her brother, Borna, plays for the {{w|English Chess Federation|English Federation}} and holds the {{w|FIDE Master}} title. Dorsa Derakhshani was banned since she did not wear a ''[[hijab]]'', an [[Islam]]ic headscarf, while competing at the {{w|Tradewise Gibraltar Chess Festival}} in January 2017. Under the [[crime and law|laws]] of Islamic Republic of Iran, ''hijab'' is a mandatory dress code. Her brother Borna Deraskhsani was banned for playing against [[Israel]]i {{w|Chess grandmaster|Grand Master}} (GM) {{w|Alexander Huzman}} at the same tournament. Iran does not recognise the existence of Israel, and previously, Irani athletes have avoided playing against Israeli athletes. Mehrdad Pahlavanzadeh, the president of the country's chess federation, explained the decision to ban the players saying, {{translated quote|fa|Farsi language|اولین اقدام ما این است که این افراد را از تمام مسابقاتی که در ایران و به نام ایران برگزار می‌شود، محروم می‌کنیم و دیگر شانس حضور در تیم ملی را نخواهند داشت. |As a first step, these two will be denied entry to all tournaments taking place in Iran and in the name of Iran, they will no longer be allowed the opportunity to be present on the national team.}} He further stated, {{translated quote|fa|Farsi language|متاسفانه اتفاقی که نباید می‌افتاد، افتاده است و منافع ملی ما بر هر چیزی ارجحیت دارد و ما این موضع را به وزارت ورزش هم گزارش دادیم.|Unfortunately, something that should not have happened has happened and our national interest is paramount and we have reported this position to the {{w|Ministry of Sport and Youth (Iran)|Ministry of Sports}}.}} IM Dorsa Derakhshani, who currently studies at {{w|Saint Louis University}} in the [[United States]] and plays for the {{w|United States Chess Federation}}, discussed her chess career, time in Iran and the 2017 controversy, and her life in Saint Louis with a ''Wikinews'' correspondent. == Interview with IM Dorsa Derakhshani == IM Dorsa Derakhshani grew up in Tehran, and she had learned to read and write at a very young age because her parents were "persistent" about her education. She remarked lack of chess tournaments in a country where "women are seen as second-class citizens" was one of the challenges she'd faced living in Iran. === Her childhood === {{WNI first question}} '''Could you please tell us something about yourself?''' {{clear}} {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I'm a professional chess player and right now I'm a {{w|Pre-medical|pre-med}} student at Saint Louis University. [[File:Dorsa Derakhshani in her childhood.jpg|right|thumb|Dorsa Derakhshani in her childhood.{{image|paren=true|Dorsa Derakhshani on Instagram}}]] {{WNIQ}} '''What interested you in chess and who taught you this game?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I got interested in chess because of my dad. He used to play in high school before the {{w|Iranian revolution|revolution in Iran}}. But since after the revolution chess was banned for about ten years. So he couldn't play in public, so he would just play in the house and I remember he used to play with my mom. And, yeah, that's how I learned chess. {{WNIQ}} '''What do your parents do?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} My dad is a doctor, he is a pædiatrist and family medicine. My mom is a psychiatrist. {{WNIQ}} '''How was your childhood like?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I was the first child, so they, my parents put a lot of effort into teaching me a lot of different skills. So, for example, my parents really wanted me to start writing and solving puzzles as soon as possible. So when I was two-and-a-half, I finished first grade. I could do [[math]]s and read the books and write. And they kept going. So when I was a little over four, I finished fourth grade. And so they wanted me to start fifth grade when I was five but the government didn't really have any protocols for this so they didn't allow me to skip classes. And so my parents tried to fill my time with other activities such as {{w|ballet}}, [[painting]], [[music]], [[swimming]], and eventually chess. And chess was the one thing that I [jumped for consistently] because I really liked puzzle-solving and I really liked the winning, the competition. {{WNIQ}} '''How did you train as a kid?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I always wanted to be the best at everything I was doing, and chess had the clear category of what I was best at. And I really liked that. Because for example in ballet or in painting, I was good, but, I wasn't sure what I was good at, just, was I good just for a kid my age, was I good just for the class I was in. And in chess, one of the first tournaments that I played, I won the Girl's Under-8 National Championship. So I knew clearly, I felt like clearly I was best at that. And, yeah, I was very ambitious and competitive, I don't know why. {{WNIQ}} '''When did you realise you were a serious talent?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} <!-- I went to the school &mdash; --> My middle and my high school, I went to the organisation which is called {{w|Tehran Farzanegan School|SAMPAD}} <!-- Google Search "National Organisation for Extra-Ordinary iran" -->. It's an acronym for, hold on, let me look that up. It's called the National Organization for Extraordinary something. I will look that up in just a second. So I knew that I had the ambition and I had the brain because I used to be a TV host when I was a kid and it was always very easy for me. It wasn't very stressful. I didn't have to do too many preparation because of the confidence that my parents gave me. Ah, the name of the school that I went to, on Wikipedia, it's National Organization for Development of Exceptional Talents. So we had to do an exam, somewhat like an {{w|SAT}}, in fifth grade. And we would get into these schools and it was very hard to balance school and chess. And that's around the time that I stopped playing music and I stopped giving concerts and just started to focus on school and chess. [[File:Judit Polgár 2013.jpg|right|thumb|GM Judit Polgár, one of Derakhshani's inspirations. {{image|paren=true|[[c:User:VanWiel|VanWiel]]}}]] {{WNIQ}} '''Who inspires you in chess?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I really liked the three sisters of Polgár, 'specially {{w|Judit Polgár|Judit}}. Just because she kept on going and she didn't just want to be the best female chess player. She was in top 10. She was one of the first to break the barriers of gender, especially in chess society. So yeah, she would be. {{WNIQ}} '''Tell me about your most memorable tournament.''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} She [Judit Polgár] played so many. She hasn't been playing much in [the] past few years because she is focused on family, which I also respect a lot because I am a big family-person myself, so I completely understand that. Her most memorable, it's really hard to pick. She played so many high class tournaments. {{WNIQ}} '''I meant ''your'' most memorable.''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Oh. My. I want to go with my first time, the first tournament that I won. The Iranian National Championship for girls Under-8. Because that was one of the changing moments and I remember I wore like a princess dress and a {{wikt|tiara}} because it felt like a very powerful time for me. {{WNIQ}} '''What is your favourite game? Could be yours, or could be someone else's.''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Favourite game. Um, I play a lot of online chess and lot of good positions and good tactics happens there but I don't really know the name of the opponents. {{WNIQ}} '''Tell me about the challenges you had faced as a chess prodigy living in Iran.''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Well one of the big challenges was that there weren't enough tournaments. Because in Iran, women are seen as second-class citizens, so, I wasn't allowed, and women weren't allowed to play, in open tournaments. And there weren't enough women chess players to organise a big event. And so when I was growing up and I was eight, we started &mdash; my parents started to request that okay, she is a good child, she should be able to play in male-based tournaments, basically. And they weren't even female tournaments, they were just tournaments. And so when I was eight, and when I was ten, they allowed the children, like the girl childs to play, which was kind of awkward. And then they came up with more flexible rules, like if you are in the national team, you can play whatever tournament you want, if you win your category. But still. It was very {{w|sexist}}. {{WNIQ}} '''You mentioned you were a TV anchor as a kid. Tell us more about that.''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Oh, so, one day I was singing and dancing in a mall, just, I don't know why, I liked that, when I was two. And a TV producer saw me and really liked my confidence. So they gave me the opportunity to co-host a TV show for kids. And to try [to] inspire and motivate them to read and write to do other activities. And I did that up until I was six years old, a little over two months and I was six. And I quit because they wanted me to change the way I was dressing and start wearing ''hijab'' and start not wearing dresses and stuff. And I thought that was stupid. So I didn't go anymore and my parents fully supported my decision to stop the co-hosting. {{WNIQ}} '''You also learned to read at a very young age.''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Yep. Yeah that was all due to my parents. They were very persistent with my education. {{WNIQ}} '''How was your personality like, in your childhood?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Oh, my mom sometimes makes fun that I was like a child robot, that I was always saying what I was thinking. And I was always very confident and just talking and trying to, I quote, she said, "boss people around" &mdash; as a two-year-old, which was kind of adorable. [laughs] But I was always very competitive and, yeah: that was something that my parents gave me. My parents [... to] have that potential to want to inspire other people. === Her decision to not play for the Irani Chess Federation === Having won multiple tournaments as a kid, IM Dorsa Derakhshani decided not to play for the Iranian Chess Federation saying "it wasn't a good fit" for her. {{WNIQ}} '''Early in your life you had decided you didn't want to play for Iran.''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Yep. I made that decision around [...] two-thousand, so 2011, 12, 13, 14 were the years that I won Asia National Championships and Youth National Championships. And I just didn't really fit with any of the teammates or any of the people from my federation. And they all expected so much time and energy to try and, for the lack of better words, kiss their asses. I just don't have a better word to put there. And so I refused to do that because I was busy with school and busy with chess, and I refused to go there and sit and have weekly meetings about I don't even know what, not chess-related. So it wasn't a good fit for me. {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} And I was looking for immigration even before that because most of my family lives outside of Iran. Not my immediate family but my aunts and cousins from both of my parents' sides. So we were looking for immigration from early on, but I wanted to see if I could grow as a chess player within chess in Iranian Chess Federation but, when I was sure that it was not a good fit, is when I started to look for another federation and decided not to play for Iran anymore. And the last time I officially played for Iran in an official tournament was 2015. And in 2016, I immigrated to Spain to see if that federation and country would be a good fit for to live in and play chess for. But when I was trying to make a decision if I should transfer my federation to Spain or stay with Iran, I received scholarship offers from US colleges and I decided to immigrate here and play for US federation. {{WNIQ}} '''If Iran did not impose the compulsory observation of the headscarf, would you have, in that case, chosen to play for Iran?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I don't think it was about the headscarf because that's just a piece of clothing. I mean, every job has a dress-code. So it wasn't just about the headscarf, it was more about the way the society viewed women and how hard I as a woman had to fight. I had to work like ten times harder than a man just to be seen as half as good as him, while I understood more and it should have been different. It should &mdash; I mean the women face inequality in so many places but I decided instead of fighting in a country where I wouldn't have enough voice, I would immigrate to another country where I would have a better voice and a better future. {{WNIQ}} '''Back then, did your younger brother Borna also decide not to play for Iran?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} He also wanted to immigrate, but he wanted to see which country. He wasn't sure &mdash; Because my family still do have a pending immigration case to come to the US. So he wasn't sure if he would want to wait until after immigration to start playing for the US, or he would want to play for a European Federation. But since he is going to boarding school in [[UK]], he switched his federation very quickly. {{WNIQ}} '''When did you inform the Iranian Chess Federation about your decision?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Early 2016. Because they wanted me to play different tournaments for them, team tournaments. Because I would be their solid second board because I was Women Grand Master and then International Master in 2016. So they wanted me to represent their country. And I flat completely refused and I said that I'm in Spain and I'm working to transfer federations and I don't want to play for Iran anymore. So I was in, for example, in 2016 [chess] Olympiad in {{w|Baku}}, I refused to play for Iran National Team and I chose to work as press for the French Chess websites. And I was there. I just didn't play for the team. I went there on my own and I met with my family. {{WNIQ}} '''So how long did you represent Iran at the chess tournaments?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Well, I stopped representing them in 2015. And, well, I did play in an international tournament in 2006. So I played World Youths in 2006, so I would say nine years? Less that ten years, yeah. [[File:AtousaPourkashiyan.jpg|right|thumb|Iranian WGM {{w|Atousa Pourkashiyan}} with a headscarf. Head scarf is mandatory for all Iranian women after the 1979 Iranian Revolution. {{image|paren=true|[[c:User:Stefan64|Stefan64]]}}]] {{WNIQ}} '''Had the federation ever warned you to cover your hair?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Well, I quote, they said "Even if you are not wearing the headscarf, like on your head, at least have it around your neck", and I just thought that was extremely stupid because they [the Iranian Chess Federation] wanted this to cover their asses. So if there was a picture, they would say, "Oh, it [the head covering] just fell". And it was like, if I don't believe in something, why would I bother faking it? And that whole idea of, like, "put the scarf around your neck and if somebody sees, just, like, put it up, put it down". That was extremely stupid. But that's something that other female chess players in the team have been doing for years. And most of them have already immigrated out of Iran anyways. {{WNIQ}} '''Were there any other regulations [Iranian] female chess players had to adhere to?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Oh yeah, well the classic "no parties", "no alcohol", "no contact with men", blah blah blah, which we all broke anyways, but. {{WNIQ}} '''After deciding you won't play for Iran, what did you do?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I, in 2015 I was trying to figure out which federation to go, which country to represent. [[Switzerland]] was one of my choices. But it [fell] through just because &mdash; it was very complicated. I did want to represent the country of Switzerland, and they did want me to represent them. So I would be their highest female [rated player]. I would be their board one. But it was really hard to fit a good educational system for me and I didn't speak other languages besides English and I needed to be able to speak German or French or something else in Switzerland to be able to live and that was a big problem for me. So I ended up moving to [[Spain]] and seeing if that would be the country I would keep living in and I only lived there for a year before I decided to move to US. === Her career in chess === [[File:Dorsa Derakhshani in Barcelona.jpg|right|thumb|Dorsa Derakhshani at the {{w|Camp Nou}} stadium in [[Barcelona]], [[Spain]]. Montcada is just a few kilometres away from Barcelona {{image|Dorsa Derakhshani on Instagram|paren=true}}]] {{WNIQ}} '''How was your time in {{w|Montcada}} Chess Club?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Very nice. They were very nice people. They helped with a lot of things. They helped me find a place. They helped me find good tournaments. They had good tournaments themselves. I think one of the big tournaments didn't happen last year, but hopefully it will happen this year. Yeah, it was a very growing chess club. {{WNIQ}} '''After immigrating to the US, have you been to Spain again?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} No I haven't had the chance because mainly I am very busy with studying because I am pre-med student and the other problem was that I didn't have my {{w|green card}} at the time. I got my green card last summer. And I went to [[South America]] for a tournament: [[Panama]]. I also went to [[Munich]] for the {{w|TEDx}} talk last summer, and no I haven't been to Spain. {{WNIQ}} '''Tell me about your success at the Iranian National Youth under-8 tournament.''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I don't really remember much from the games. But I do remember I scored eight wins and one loss. And that's how I won the tournament. I didn't really have a coach while the other girls did. And I don't really remember anything else besides the closing ceremony and how much I scored. {{WNIQ}} '''Tell us about your participation in the Asian Junior Championships.''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} That's actually around the time I started to think of chess as more possible career. So the first, 2011, was in [[Philippines]]. I got the first runner-up. Second one was 2012 in [[Sri Lanka]], I believe. Yeah. And I won that one. The third one was in Iran. Yeah, in 2013. I won that. '14 was in India: [[New Delhi]]. After I won that, I just didn't play in the Asian Championship in 2015 anymore, just because I kind of won it a few times already. {{WNIQ}} '''Were you supposed to observe the regulations of Iranian Chess Federation at the Asian Junior Championships as well?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Yeah, because those were the years that I was trying to figure out if this lifestyle is for me or not. So, yeah. {{WNIQ}} '''What are some of your career highlights?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} One of the big things that I actually realised yesterday when I was reading another article was: in 2016, I got my FIDE trainer title. And even to this date, I am the youngest FIDE trainer in the world which is kind of cool, because that was like four years, almost four years ago. I received the titles of Woman Grand Master and International Master in 2016. 2016 was a big year. And I won so many [...] prizes in international tournaments. I played for different leagues, European Leagues, such as Switzerland, [[Belgium]], Spain. And I am a part of the British League. I just don't really think it is safe to travel right now, otherwise I would be playing for tournaments. Ah, let's see, I did play in {{w|U.S. Chess Championship|US [Chess] Championship}} 2018 and I will be playing in US [Chess] Championship this year, but it has been postponed because of the &#x5B;[[COVID-19]]&#x5D; pandemic. But I am supposed to play in it when we know the dates, anyways. I think those are some of the ones that I run over just right now. === Her games === [[File:French Defence.png|thumb|left|The {{w|French Defence}} opening 1.&nbsp;e4 e6 2.&nbsp;d4 d5 {{image|paren=true|[[User:Acagastya|acagastya]]}}]] {{WNIQ}} '''What is your strategy while playing against players rated 2500+ points?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} It really depends on the colour and the preparation that I do. But I usually just try to play solid and wait for opponent's mistakes while trying to put my pieces in the best places possible. So that's something that I do regardless of who I'm playing. But the opening preparations might change depending on the opponent's rating. {{WNIQ}} '''How has your strategy and game improved over the years?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Well, my {{w|Chess endgame|endgame}} is really improved when I started to read {{w|Mark Dvoretsky}}'s books. And, those really helped. But I still have a long way to go to feel completely confident in my endgame skills. {{WNIQ}} '''What is the opening you prefer?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I really do like to play against {{w|French Defence}}. Just I've always had a pleasant position and I just have so much space and it really fits with my style. So yeah, I really like to play against French Defence. {{WNIQ}} '''And which chess opening you really don't like?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} When I am black and they play something like {{w|Catalan Opening|Catalan}} against me because it is such a boring and without-any-soul position. I can't really get that creative and everything is just, well sitting and waiting, basically. {{multiple image | footer = Muzychuk sisters | image1 = Anna Muzychuk 2011.jpg | width1 = 114 | width2 = 128 | caption1 = Anna Muzychuk in 2011 {{image|paren=true|Andreas Kontokanis}} | image2 = Mariya Muzychuk 2013.jpg | caption2 = Mariya Muzychuk in 2013 {{image|paren=true|Przemysław Jahr}} }} {{WNIQ}} '''Who is the toughest opponent you ever faced?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} It's kind of hard to say, let me keep thinking for a little. I played the Muzychuk sisters {{w|Anna Muzychuk|Anna}} and {{w|Mariya Muzychuk|Mariya}} in a {{w|round-robin}} tournament in late 2016. They were, I think they were one of the toughest ones. {{WNIQ}} '''Do you prefer over-the-board games or {{w|Internet chess}}?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} A mix of both. {{WNIQ}} '''Which {{w|time control}} do you prefer?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Standard. {{WNIQ}} '''How do you prepare for a tournament?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} <!--Oo, that's a good question.--> It kind of depends. Because sometimes the tournament is really, the one thing I try to do is to match my time. So for example, US Championship is going to be held everyday at 1 pm sharp, so I try to do lot of trainings at 1 pm. Just because I want my brain to be prepared for that 1 pm chess-time instead of 1 pm nap-time. So I think that's one of the big things that I always try to do. If I have an important tournament and if I have the chance on the time to prepare for some of the physical and mental habits like this, I try to always do those. I also try to find a coach that I am comfortable with, and who has enough time for me, and just figure out my issues and try to fix them. Like if there is an opening issue, endgame issue, just something that I am missing about how to be better in chess. === Chess in general and other players === {{WNIQ}} '''What do you think of the prevalence of {{w|chess engine|chess engines}}?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} They're good but I think it's kind of also disturbing to some extent because when you are analysing a line, you don't use your own brain as much anymore and you just rely on the computer's brain. Which is not necessarily a bad thing but it just kind of takes away the beauty of putting your brain to work. {{WNIQ}} '''What do you think is the future of chess?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} It's kind of hard to say. I'm hoping that &mdash; I have a lot of different suggestions from different Grand Masters and Women Grand Masters about the fact that in FIDE's rules there is a difference between woman title and open titles and not everybody is a big fan of that. And we were having a discussion just in the kitchen at the Saint Louis Chess Club with the other Grand Masters about the pros and cons and they were saying that, as pros, some of the women in developing countries when they achieve the titles, that is like a really huge deal for them even though it is a woman title and it doesn't make sense to call something like a Woman Title and another Open Title. So there are a lot of controversies going around, so that as a pro that these women are being helped because they achieved the title. And another con is that, well, this doesn't feel right. It seems you are telling women that you are only good enough for women titles and that's &mdash; it's really wrong because it creates the ideas that men think better, men make better decisions, blah blah blah. I talked a lot in my TEDx talk last summer, that that's not true and this is just something that we have been told by society and by history. And that is something we should work to change but I hope that chess society will be able to come up with better ideas 'cause if I had an idea about what to do about chess society, I would find the right person to pitch it to, I just don't, right now. But I know there is a problem, I just don't have a solution for it. [[File:Alejandro Ramírez, Dorsa Derakhshani and Fabiano Caruana.jpg|right|thumb|From left: GM Alejandro Ramírez, IM Dorsa Derakhshani, GM Fabiano Caruana and GM Yasser Seriwan. Fabiano Caruana is one of the two current players who influence Derakhshani, the IM said. {{image|paren=true|Dorsa Derakhshani on Instagram}}]] [[File:Borna and Dorsa Derakhshani.jpg|left|thumb|From left, FM Borna Derakhshani and his sister IM Dorsa Derakhshani. {{image|paren=true|Dorsa Derakhshani on Instagram}}]] {{WNIQ}} '''Which current players influence you the most?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I am a big fan of both {{w|Magnus Carlsen}} and {{w|Fabiano Caruana}} because there are both really great chess players. And Fabiano Caruana, he does live in Saint Louis, so I know him more than I know Magnus Carlsen. And their personalities: like how different their personalities are and again, and at the same time, how they both are number 1 and 2 in chess and they're both the best players of this generation. That's something really interesting to me: not just their game, but how they think, and how they behave and, yeah. I tend to analyse people which gets me in trouble sometimes. [laughs] {{WNIQ}} '''Who is your favourite opponent?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} My favourite opponent? My brother. {{WNIQ}} '''How is he doing by the way?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} He is good. He helped me install an anti-virus on my laptop yesterday, so, kudos for that! {{WNIQ}} '''He is in England right now, right?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Yes. === The 2017 Gibraltar Chess tournament and getting banned from the Iranian National Chess team === [[File:IM Dorsa Derakhshani vs GM Lemos Damian in Gibraltar Chess Tournament 2017.png|right|thumb|IM Dorsa Derakhshani vs GM Damian Lemos in the second round in the Gibraltar Chess Tournament in 2017 {{image|paren=true|Gibraltar Chess Festival}}]] {{WNIQ}} '''Okay, tell me about the Gibraltar Chess Tournament.''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} It was a really good tournament. I played very well. There was just one game where I could have played better. But I had very good results. I was drawing higher-rated Grand Masters and I was winning the lower-rated opponents, and I had a very nice tournament. It was a very high-class tournament and the organisers were super nice. And I was there with my mom and my brother, which made it even more nice. What else? I just really liked the atmosphere. I would like to go back and play again when I get some chance, but unfortunately, it's been during my exam every single year so far. But yeah, it went very smoothly. I played very well, I really liked it. It was just really great. {{WNIQ}} '''Were you satisfied with your performance in the tournament?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I feel like I could have done a little bit better, but yeah, overall I was, I played very well, and I really liked it. {{WNIQ}} '''But it appears [as if] more happened in the media outside the tournament<!-- cut here, please -->''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Oh yeah. Yeah, well, that's been kind of... interesting. Well, it wasn't right after that. It was, I played another tournament in [[Portugal]] right after, which I got sick during and I couldn't really play to my best. But I did get the best woman, anyways. Anyways, after that, I went for a vacation for about a week. And after that I went to play in tournaments in [[Austria]] right after. And that's when, I remember I didn't have Internet connection for a few hours because I was in a train ride from [...] I don't remember, a city in [[Germany]] to Austria. And during that time, during that hours I was offline, the whole hell broke lose. Well, yeah it did. And my phone started to blow up when I got Internet connection again. Just with {{w|Instagram}} followers and my friends messaging me where am I, if I were in Iran, if I am in Iran I should get out, and I was like, I am not in Iran, I haven't been back in Iran since I moved out in 2016 to live in Spain. But okay, I am not there and I start to follow news. And the next morning, my mom and my brother got to the hotel that we were staying at. And I explained to them what was going on and we were all extremely shocked. Because it's the timing of it, was extremely suspicious. Because the tournament [Gibraltar] happened weeks before and I was a resident of another country for more than six months. So the timing of it was extremely suspicious because the {{w|Women's World Chess Championship 2017|Women World [Chess] Championship}} was happening in Iran at that time, and all of the Iranian female players who were playing in that tournament got eliminated and the Federation was under huge scrutiny from the Iranian government and the people. And they were like, "Well, if you don't have good enough players to actually win this thing, why did you host it and why did you make us spend so much money on it?" And because a lot of the best women chess players in the world refused to play in that tournament because of their values. And they didn't want to go to a country where they are required to have a certain dress code and they wanted to be comfortable when they were playing the tournament. So that was a whole big mess. And when the story about me broke out that I was not wearing a scarf and I was representing, whatever they were saying, all of the attention shifted to me and my brother instead of the Iranian Chess Federation mistakes in hosting the tournament. {{WNIQ}} '''You weren't living in Iran at that time. You weren't representing Iran. You had made it very clear you didn't want to play for the federation. And yet they decide to sensationalise this banning of yours?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Yep. That's why it was very idiotic and seemed more conspiracy rather than they actually were offended by my actions. Because they knew I weren't there. They knew I was living in another country and looking to change federations and I've told them that I won't be representing them in official tournaments any more and the whole thing was very idiotic. And more like a trying for a distraction rather than being actually offended. Because if they were actually offended, I would have probably understood that, I guess? But they weren't, because there was no reason to be offended. I wasn't in the country, I was a resident of another country and that was very interesting the way they dealt with it. And the fun fact is that if I was actually in Iran when the news broke, I would most likely still be in jail for I don't know what. So even if I was the resident of another country, citizen of another country, because the laws in Iran don't really follow much of [[human rights]]. Yeah, most likely I would still be rotting somewhere. Yeah. {{WNIQ}} '''How did you cope with that?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} With the fact that I would never go back to the country I was from? I kind of expected that anyways, because I am against the government and everything it represents. I don't have enough power to speak up to more authorities and do much. So I just decided to leave the toxic environment. And to live in somewhere that I'm respected for my beliefs and my values rather than being told to shut up and just deal with [the world] as it is. So I didn't like living in Iran because of the Government anyways. So I was okay with my never going back when I moved out to go live in Spain. But, yeah, I still miss it. I still have dreams about my home and a lot of the places in Iran that I went to. But I accepted that I am never going back. {{WNIQ}} '''How did you parents react to this?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} My mom is a huge planner. So she had planned for something to happen because she always likes to have a plan A, B, C, D, be like just continuous &mdash; she is a huge planner. And so she had somewhat prepared for the media scrutiny. And we decided not to give any interviews, because we didn't know at the time what was going to happen. My brother hasn't completed his immigration for his boarding school at that time. He was still working on it. And they probably realised that, all right, I was living in Spain anyways, so I would just live the life as I had. And staying focused on finalising my brother's immigration process. And we all decided to talk to one media at that [time]: {{w|chess.com}}. And I told that I am not ready to talk anything political, I want to be respectful and I want to just tell my side of the story. And they said they really liked that I agreed to just talk to someone. But after a few months, I was ready to talk about the political aspects of things. And I felt that I understood that more. So I wrote a piece for ''[[The New York Times]]'' and I talked to more media outlets about this whole thing. {{WNIQ}} '''Did the Iranian chess players reach out to support you?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Very very few. And that was something that I expected to be more. Because all of my high school friends, actually most of my high school, just the class that I had: they reached out and they have a group chat and they were really supportive, my high school friends. But from the chess players, I think, Iranian Chess players, very few, maybe not even five or ten reached out to show their support which was very shocking to me. === The Iranian government's hesitation of Iranian players playing against Israeli athletes === {{WNIQ}} '''Your younger brother was also banned by the [Iranian] Chess Federation at the same tournament, playing against an Israeli Grand Master. He was fourteen. He was just a kid.''' [[File:Iranen elkartasuna Gazarekin 2018 4.jpg|right|thumb|Protest in Iran against Israel {{image|paren=true|Ali Khara}}]] {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Yeah. They keep making a big deal about playing against Israel. But the funny thing is that that tournament was in 2017 but in 2015, we both played against Israel in another tournament and nobody seemed to care, in the old tournament. I don't understand why they make it such a big deal. I understand that they don't recognise Israel as a country, which is super idiotic to me but anyways. And just because they don't recognise it, they want to pretend that it doesn't exist. So we are not supposed to play with it. Something like that. Which just doesn't make any logical sense. {{WNIQ}} '''I just feel he shouldn't have been dragged into this [situation].''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Yeah. That's completely true. He shouldn't have. Because they just wanted a story and, well, the thing is that the first interviewer who talked to the [Iranian] Chess Federation's president, he questioned about my brother first. And then put me in as "And her sister also doesn't wear a scarf". But my story became more popular because it was something more relatable to the people outside of chess. Because just playing with Israel doesn't really make much sense why is a big deal to other, to foreign people rather than not being banned for not wearing scarf. But yeah, they made a big deal about him first, and then me, in Iran, in the interview that they had. {{WNIQ}} '''Do organisers of the chess tournaments take measures not to pair Israeli players against Iranians?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} They used to, but, they stopped that since &mdash;. Yeah, they used to, and they used to call it "forbidden pairing". But I think in about a year or two ago, when one of the Iranian chess players refused to play [against Israeli player] and when he went back to Iran, he became like a national hero. He didn't win the tournament. He didn't really ''do'' anything. He just refused to play against an opponent which is very wrong in any sportsmanship manner, but anyways. He became a national hero. He scored a lot of financial and media attention. He met with like the Iranian Government. Yeah, it was like, just because he didn't play, he gained so much from it. And so that's something that the FIDE refused to play by anymore and they, FIDE, made this rule that, yup, you can't play, we are not going to help you with your not playing against the opponent and then going back to your country and scoring all this financial, and attention. [[File:Simultaneous exhibition, Sanchi Martyrs Memorial, Rasht - 19 April 2018 27.jpg|right|thumb|File photo of GM Ehsan Ghaem-Maghami. Ghaem-Maghami in 2016 chose not to play against Israeli Grand Master in [[Basel]], [[Switzerland]], {{w|Mehr News}} reported. {{image|paren=true|Armin Zahed}}]] {{WNIQ}} '''In 2016, in a Swiss Chess tournament at [[Basel]], Iranian Grand Master {{w|Ehasn Ghaem-Maghami}} refused to play against an [Israeli] player. Do you remember that?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Yeah, I was there. I was playing the same tournament. From what I remember, he faked showing up late. He showed up few minutes after the time control has already made the opponent win by time and pretended he was late for whatever reason and, blah-blah. They tend to fake illnesses and get some doctor notes. And that's what they did, some of the boys did in World Junior Championship. And, yeah, it's an ugly situation. Because for the players, it's a lose-lose. If you don't play, you won't be respected as a chess player in the chess society. But if you do play, you'd be under huge scrutiny from the country; the government. So it's a lose-lose. And that's, from what I understood that was one of the deal breakers for {{w|Alireza Firouzja|[Alireza] Firouzja}} and that's why one of the reasons that he immigrated and stopped representing Iran as well. {{WNIQ}} '''I must say, on {{w|Lichess}} he [Alireza Firouzja] has been terrific.''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Yeah! I have seen him playing a lot of online tournaments and {{w|streaming}} and he's very cool, I'm very glad for the kid. === More about her life in the US === {{WNIQ}} '''Does your family still live in Tehran?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} My family, yeah. They still do. {{WNIQ}} '''What are the things you miss the most about living in Tehran?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} The food. I really really really like Persian food and it is kind of really hard to find it here. And I miss my mother's home-cooked meals rather than restaurants. And she can't just ship me food. It would be awesome if she could. [laughs] Um, what else? I really like spending time with family and friends. Which, right now, everything is just online. So. I still do have some connections. But. [[File:Slu dubourg 1888.jpg|right|thumb|The administrative building of the Saint Louis University. {{image|paren=true|[[c:User:Wilson Delgado|Wilson Delgado]]}}]] {{WNIQ}} '''Why did you choose to leave Spain, and what would you have done if you hadn't received the scholarship?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Well, I really knew that I would continue in education, 'cause I didn't want to play chess and ''not'' go to university. I wanted to have an option. But I didn't want to play chess because I didn't have options. That is a big thing for me: I wanted to have gone to college and have a degree and see if I want to pursue a career out of chess or to choose chess. So I wanted to have that choice. So I was looking into going to universities in US anyways, and before I did my SATs, I talked to two different universities: Saint Louis University [SLU] and {{w|The University of Texas at Tyler|UTT}} [University of Texas at Tyler]. And they both offered very great scholarships. And the one factor that I, kind of like made my decision was the summer housing. Because I wouldn't have anywhere to go and live. I don't have the luxury of going back to my family for a summer. And I just hated the idea of every summer having to find a friend and just like being living with someone for three months. So SLU offered to cover the summer housing and I would be on campus dorms &mdash; apartments &mdash; and that was the big decisive factor for me. {{WNIQ}} '''Did the Iranian Government cause any trouble when you accepted the scholarship or decided to play for the US Chess Federation?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} No. No; well, they didn't really have a say in this switching the federation part, specially because I talked to FIDE. I emailed FIDE and I informed that I would like to switch federations without Iranian being involved because they already disrespected me enough and I don't want to have to face them and FIDE agreed. And I simply switched federations first to FIDE, and then from FIDE to US. {{WNIQ}} '''Previously you had mentioned, "no federation is perfect". Is there anything that Iranian Chess Federation gets right?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Well, I think you are referring to the interview, that video interview that I had in Baku. Well, I wasn't ready to talk realistically about the Iranian Federation and I didn't want to be disrespectful because at the time, they hadn't disrespected me. And I wanted to keep decent relations with them. And that's why I said "no federation is perfect". I was hoping that someone would read between the lines and see that I am not happy with the federation. {{WNIQ}} '''How was the federation in treating their athletes?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Well, not very good. Most of the student athletes didn't really have financial support or coaches. So it was just like you were basically on your own. And there was some help to send people to tournaments but it was no where nearly enough to see who has what potential. {{WNIQ}} '''Should elementary schools teach and encourage students to play chess?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Yes, definitely. {{WNIQ}} '''And what are some of the advantages in doing that?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} One of the biggest things is that you learn to plan. You learn to strategise. You learn to think ahead. And I think that those are some of the basic things you learn from chess. If you want to win at any game in chess, you need to be able to have confidence to actually {{w|checkmate|mate}} your opponent. You need to have time management. And you need to be able to strategise and plan ahead, see what you opponent want to do. {{WNIQ}} '''What are some of the chess strategies you have applied in your real life?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Oh, this one I did say in my TEDx talk; I'm gonna use that. I strategically manuevered and removed myself from the toxic environment of the Iranian Chess Federation and I moved to Spain and then US. That was good strategic maneuvering. [[File:Dorsa Derakhshani with a puppy.jpg|right|thumb|Derakhshani in her childhood with a puppy. {{image|paren=true|Dorsa Derakhshani on Instagram}}]] {{WNIQ}} '''What is the one thing, other than chess, that you are an expert in?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} My cat. I am very good with animals. {{WNIQ}} '''What are the key things you learned living in Iran?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I learned to fight for what I want. I learned that nothing actually comes easy. You have to work for it. And I learned that even though a lot of thing seem like basic human rights and logic, that's not how everybody sees it. And those are some of the things I have been struggling to deal with here in college, because for most people: they are Americans, and their families are here. And probably the most horrific thing that's happened to them was maybe they had to put a dog down. Which is sad. I understand. But still, you can't compare that to not seeing your family for years, and not being able to go back to your country. I feel like I'm like a hundred years older than the kids my age here. {{WNIQ}} '''How has the atmosphere changed since moving to the United States?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I have learned, that it is okay to be myself. I don't have to fake it to please people. I hate being a people-pleaser. I am still trying to adjust to how people see the world, because not everybody is always analysing and calculating things the way I am, because that's how I grew up. And that's how I grew up doing chess. And that's something I am still adjusting because sometimes it can be too much for my friends. [laughs] That I am always trying to see moves ahead of what they're going to do, what's going happen in their lives. And, yeah, I can understand how that might not be a pleasant thing for my friends. Because nobody like a smart-ass, so. {{WNIQ}} '''How is life at the Saint Louis University?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I have a lot of great friends. I really enjoy studying with them. I really enjoy just meeting up with them. And, I really like it here. {{WNIQ}} '''How do you train these days?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Well, everything is online. So we have been training and playing a lot of online games. {{WNIQ}} '''Tell us about your team at the Saint Louis Chess Club.''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Well, the chess club is slightly different than Saint Louis University's chess team. Because the club and the team do collaborate, but the team is slightly different than the club. [...] For the first time last year, we had an all-girls team. And that was very empowering to me. [[File:Alejandro Ramírez, Dorsa Derakhshani and Robert Hess.jpg|right|thumb|Derakhshani, her coach GM Alejandro Ramírez on the left and GM {{w|Robert Hess (chess player)|Robert Hess}} on the right. {{image|paren=true|Dorsa Derakhshani on Instagram}}]] {{WNIQ}} '''Who coaches you there?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Alejandro Ramírez. {{WNIQ}} '''Well, how is it to have Alejandro Ramírez as your coach? How is he in person?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} He is very friendly. I was friends with him before I came to this college. The year we played a tournament in [[Denmark]], 2014. And he was always a very nice person and always looking out for his friends. And yeah, he was always very nice to everybody. {{WNIQ}} '''How do your fellow teammates describe you as a person and as a player?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Everybody is quite respectful, but the ideas of gender-inequality do exist. Mainly because they are not informed enough about the biology and how human biology actually works. So I did receive questions about my TED talk and to me it seemed like they simply wanted to understand the topic more than criticise it. So they had questions like "But by statistics, men drive better, men are better in maths, men are better in chess". And I was like, so you are saying that men think better and make better decisions basically. And, they were like "I don't know enough about it, but it seems that way". And I was like, well, answer this question: If you are dying, if you are bleeding out and they take you to an emergency room and your doctor is a female, would you be like "No no, I want a male doctor. Female brain doesn't work as well." Well, you don't say that. You are glad that the woman is there to fix you. So if you can trust your life with a woman, why can't you trust a woman do think as good. [...] It is not about the gender who thinks better. It is about each individual. And they were very respectful to these topics. {{WNIQ}} '''You had applied for the US citizenship. Has it been approved?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Yeah! I got my green card last year. {{WNIQ}} '''What is your major at the Saint Louis University?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I am double majoring in [[biology]] and clinical health sciences. {{WNIQ}} '''How do you manage to train and participate in chess tournaments with ongoing academic curriculum?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Well I haven't been able to participate in as many tournaments as I would want, because I have so many exams and different classes. But I play as much as I can and the teachers are very cooperative. Because they understand that I am a professional chess player and I need to, I kind of ''have'' to play. It's like if I don't play then it's &mdash; well some of the team tournaments that we play also are university sponsored. Well, most of the tournaments we play are university sponsored, so the teachers do their best to cooperate with that as well. {{WNIQ}} '''What is the biggest decision you have made since moving to the US?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Biggest decision. Wanting to be a surgeon. === The chess federations she was associated with === {{WNIQ}} '''Have you participated in the {{w|Chess Olympiad|Chess Olympiads}}? And are you looking forward to participating in them?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I am looking forward to participating in them; I haven't represented any country because I didn't want to represent Iran, previously, and I did tell you that I was there working as press in 2016, {{w|42nd Chess Olympiad|Baku Olympiad}}. But I refused to participate for Iranian Federation. But I hope that some day I will be able to represent US in Olympiads. {{WNIQ}} '''Are there any advantages of playing for any federation?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} No. {{WNIQ}} '''Apart from the Olympiads, I guess.''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Well, here I have better stability and it's more welcoming than Iran would ever be. {{WNIQ}} '''Did the Iranian Chess Federation ever support you, back in the days?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Yes. They did send me to different tournaments. And they did provide me with some coaching in 2012–13. {{WNIQ}} '''How is the US Chess Federation different in that aspect?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Well, right now, I am more supported by the University and the Chess Club rather than the Federation as a whole. But the US Federation has been always supportive of my decisions to speak up. {{WNIQ}} '''How can the problems at Iranian Chess Federation be improved?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I don't think they can until [''while''] the government is the same, or, shares the same values and is unwilling to do the basic human rights. {{WNIQ}} '''Tell me about the time you got the title "International Master". And which title: Female Grand Master or International Master gave you more joy?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} So, I have received all of the female titles. I started from Women Candidate Master, Women FIDE Master, Women International Master, Women Grand Master, and ultimately men International Master. It was approved in Baku, the same 2016 Olympiad. And it was very pleasant. I expected it to be approved anyways, because that's just their normal routine. But it was very nice because at that time, as soon as it got approved, as soon as I officially hold the titles, my family were in Baku at the same time. So we went out, and we had a nice celebration. === Bridging the gender gap, especially in chess and the society === [[File:Dorsa Derakhshani at TEDx.jpg|right|thumb|Derakhshani at TEDxYouth@München in 2019 {{image|paren=true|Dorsa Derakhshani on Instagram}}]] {{WNIQ}} '''You had previously mentioned in your TED talk, you are curious about the human brain, and would like to study more about it. How is that going to affect your chess career?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Yep, that's true. Well, I feel like the more information I have about how anything works, it helps me become a better human being. And more mature, and I have seen the way I think about chess has changed compared to when I was, let's say eighteen, just because I am more mature right now and I am more honest to myself. It's easier for me to see certain moves and certain patterns whereas when I was a teenager. So I hope the more information I get anywhere helps me become a better human and better chess player. {{WNIQ}} '''Are the gendered titles and segregated events bad in the long run?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I think so, yeah. But at the same time, that is not a problem they can fix immediately, because if they take away all of the women titles, so many women will be harmed by that. Because they are receiving benefits from their governments and from the chess federations. {{WNIQ}} '''Earlier this year, {{w|Mitra Hejazipour}} an [Iranian] Female Grand Master in a tournament in [[Moscow]]: she chose not to wear [a] hijab. Iranian Chess Federation President announced she was now banned from the Iranian Chess Team. Iranian chess arbiter Shohreh Bayat decided not to return to the country after a photo of hers was circulated by the Iranian press in which her headscarf was not visible. What do you think of this situation?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I mean, I am glad that they're finding their voice. But they were not supportive when I found my voice. {{WNIQ}} '''What was the President of the Iranian Chess Federation Mehrdad Pahlavanzadeh like?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} At the time I thought he was nice and genuine, but the more I got to know him, it felt like he was very power-hungry and a lot &mdash; really fake. I just don't really have better words to put. {{WNIQ}} '''Why does the federation take these actions instead of looking at the player's performance?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Well, the other problem is that they are under big scrutiny from the government because the government expects the women to behave a certain way and to dress a certain way. So it's not just about what the federation thinks. It's also a lot on the government. {{WNIQ}} '''What message would you like to give to Iranian chess players?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Be true to yourself. If this isn't the right fit for you, find the right fit. And if you do believe and you are happy where you are, nobody should be able to tell you not to be happy and to disrespect your beliefs. {{multiple image | footer = Organising tournaments in Iran and Saudi Arabia was criticised by both WGM Nazí Paikidze and GM Hikaru Nakamura | image1 = Paikidze Nazi (30351697646) (cropped).jpg | width1 = 114 | width2 = 170 | caption1 = WGM Nazí Paikidze in 2016 {{image|paren=true|Andreas Kontokanis}} | image2 = Hikaru Nakamura (29608320206).jpg | caption2 = GM Hikaru Nakamura in 2016 {{image|paren=true|Andreas Kontokanis}} }} {{WNIQ}} '''Back in 2017, the {{w|World Rapid Chess Championship|World Rapid and Blitz Championship}} was held in [[Riyadh]] [in [[Saudi Arabia]]‍] and Israeli chess players were denied visa. Iran hosted the {{w|Women's World Chess Championship 2017|2017 Women's World Championship}} and it was boycotted by [WGM] {{w|Nazí Paikidze}} due to the mandatory hijab. What is your say in organising events in these countries where players are either forced to adhere to a dress code, or denied visa altogether because of their nationality?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} That's very wrong to give tournament organisation to these countries. They shouldn't do that. Because these countries aren't following the basic human rights. And we shouldn't support and encourage them to just keep treating women as they are, and giving them organisation, giving them publicity will just encourage that [what] they are doing is right which they aren't. {{WNIQ}} '''Back in 2017, even [GM] {{w|Hikaru Nakamura}} [[twitter|tweeted]], "To organise a chess tournament in a country where basic human rights aren't valued is horrible. Chess is a game where all different sorts of people can come together, not a game in which people are divided because of their religion or country of origin."''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Yes, I completely agree with that. === Her life === {{WNIQ}} '''Well, what are you favourite places to play chess?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Switzerland. {{WNIQ}} '''What are you favourite chess books?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I really like the Mark Dvoretsky books. I also really like the five books by [[Garry Kasparov|Kasparov]], ''{{w|My Great Predecessors}}''. Another book that I really like is ''{{w|My System}}''. A lot of people don't like it, and I probably wouldn't like it right now, but it was a huge deal for me when I first read it. The way that they explain it and the way they inspired me to think was different than what I was doing. So I learned a lot from it. [[File:Atul-Gawande (cropped).jpg|right|thumb|File photo of Dr {{w|Atul Gawande}}, whose books she likes to read.{{image|paren=true|[[commons:User:Amar Karodkar|Amar Karodkar]]}}]] {{WNIQ}} '''What are your favourite non-chess books?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Non-chess books. Um, I really like to read books by <!--, I might pronounce it wrong, but,--> [{{w|Atul Gawande}}], and he's a doctor here in the US who writes different books and explains how he felt on his experience, on his intake. So I really like that. {{WNIQ}} '''Who helped you get where you are today?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} My parents. {{WNIQ}} '''What important truths do a very few people agree with?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} <!--([...] I'm still thinking about it.)--> I think one of the things that's kind of, people are still trying to learn is respecting everybody's beliefs. Because people can be extremely judgemental. ''I'' can be judgemental sometimes, and I have to talk myself and explain to myself that, okay &mdash; <!-- this is&mdash; it doesn't&mdash; --> people are allowed to do what they want and it is not my place to judge everybody. And sometimes we all need that reminder. {{WNIQ}} '''What do you do to relax when you are not playing chess?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I really like to watch TV shows, about different careers, 'cause I am never going to be a lawyer but just watching a law-related TV show helps me understand that aspects too. {{WNIQ}} '''What according to you makes chess beautiful?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Sometimes it feels like chess is like you are hearing the music that the pieces are making and you're dancing, the pieces are dancing, to it. And then you figure out a ''beautiful'' tactic. I really like that analogy. {{WNIQ}} '''What motivates you to play chess?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Well, I'd like to show people that you can do different things with your life. And the idea that you can play chess and still study and still have a life outside of chess. I think that's one of the big things for me. {{WNIQ}} '''How much time do you spend behind analysing your own games?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Quite a lot actually. It kind of depends on the game and ideally if I have the time, I would like to go back and talk to my brother or another chess friend. And get their inputs. {{WNIQ}} '''What advice do you have for new chess players?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} To figure out what they want and to find a book and find a coach who cares about them. Well the book shouldn't care about the person, but the book should be able to speak to the person, because sometimes you just look at the books and look at the positions just because of the positions. But sometimes when you are reading the book, you are actually feel that you understand this, and it is more than just a book to you. {{WNIQ}} '''What are some of the bad traits that hold a player down?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Feeling like you are not good enough. And feeling like your opponent is better than you, or, lot of these feelings that you are not good enough, you can't do it. Because if you have any of these thoughts going into a chess game, you are not gonna come out it very happy. [[File:Dorsa Derakhshani with her mother.jpg|right|thumb|Dorsa Derakhshani with her mother. {{image|paren=true|Dorsa Derakhshani on Instagram}}]] {{WNIQ}} '''What is the best advice given to you?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} My mom, she always encouraged me to be true to be myself and to find the best way of expressing myself. Because I went through a period when I was extremely straightforward with everybody and it was kind of hurtful. Because I just didn't want to pretend anything. I didn't want to fake anything. And then my mom helps me realise that it is not about being straightforward or faking it. It is actually finding the right words to put in, because sometimes what you say is hurtful but what you mean is not. So that smooth transition between matching what you say and what you mean, I think that was one of the biggest advice I've got. {{WNIQ}} '''In future what do you want to achieve in the game of chess?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} I would really like to be in US top five. And I would also really like to be involved in chess as much as I can. I do have my FIDE trainer title, and I would really like to be able to teach more kids. I do have a few students and it seems to be going good, so far. But I would like to understand better how to fix and help the players. {{WNIQ}} '''Those were all the questions I had for you. Is there something you would like to add?''' {{WNIR|Dorsa Derakhshani}} Um, no I am good. Thank you. {{haveyoursay}} == Related news == *{{Wikinews|Israeli chess players barred at chess tournament in Saudi Arabia|December 27, 2017}} == Sister links == {{sisters|commons|File:Interview with IM Dorsa Derakhshani.flac}} == Sources == {{interview|media=audio}} {{FA}} *{{source |url = https://lichess.org/@/alireza2003 |title = alireza2003 : Activity • lichess.org |author = |pub = Lichess |date = March 25, 2020 (date of access) }} *{{source |url = https://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=12518450 |title = Derakhshani, Borna FIDE Chess Profile – Players Arbiters Trainers |author = |pub = FIDE |date = March 23, 2020 (date of access) }} *{{source |url = https://en.radiofarda.com/a/iran-female-chess-referee-defies-compulsory-hijab-says-not-going-back/30370173.html |title = Iran Female Chess Referee Defies Compulsory Hijab, Says Not Going Back |author = |pub = Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty |date = January 10, 2020 }} *{{source |url = https://en.radiofarda.com/a/iran-chess-federation-expels-veteran-female-grandmaster-for-defying-islamic-dress-code/30360259.html |title = Iran Chess Federation Expels Veteran Female Grandmaster For Defying Hijab |author = |pub = Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty |date = January 4, 2020 }} *{{source |url = https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/borna-derakhshani-chess-pawn-in-game-of-diplomacy-will-play-for-england-tc30dmtcb |title = Borna Derakhshani: banned Iranian chess player will play for England |author = |pub = The Times |date = October 4, 2017 }} *{{source |url = https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-bans-teen-chess-siblings-over-head-scarf-israeli-match/28320535.html |title = Iran Bans Teen Chess Siblings Over Head Scarf, Match Against Israeli |author = Golnaz Esfandiari |pub = Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty |date = February 20, 2017 }} *{{source |url = https://www.farsnews.com/news/13951130000639/شطرنج-بازان-خاطی-ملی-پوش-نبودند-مسابقات-جبل-الطارق-آزاد-بوده-است |title = شطرنج بازان خاطی ملی پوش نبودند/ مسابقات جبل الطارق آزاد بوده است |author = |pub = Fars News |date = February 18, 2017 |lang = fa |archiveurl = http://web.archive.org/web/20200114230515/https://www.farsnews.com/news/13951130000639/%D8%B4%D8%B7%D8%B1%D9%86%D8%AC-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B2%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B7%DB%8C-%D9%85%D9%84%DB%8C-%D9%BE%D9%88%D8%B4-%D9%86%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%AF%D9%86%D8%AF-%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%AC%D8%A8%D9%84-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%82-%D8%A2%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%AF-%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%AF%D9%87-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA |brokenURL = true }} *{{source |url = http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/37559853/the-22-year-old-chess-star-boycotting-iran-world-championships-over-hijab |title = The 22-year-old chess star boycotting Iran World Championships over hijab |author = Amelia Butterly |pub = BBC |date = October 5, 2016 }} *{{source |url = https://en.mehrnews.com/news/113377/Ghaem-Maghami-refuses-to-play-vs-Israeli-chess-player |title = Ghaem-Maghami refuses to play vs. Israeli chess player – Mehr News Agency |author = |pub = Mehr News |date = January 5, 2016 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20160109033405/https://en.mehrnews.com/news/113377/Ghaem-Maghami-refuses-to-play-vs-Israeli-chess-player }} == External links == *{{source |url = https://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/chess-how-chess-can-prepare-you-medical-school |title = On Chess: How Chess Can Prepare You For Medical School |author = Dorsa Derakhshani |pub = Saint Louis Public Radio |pubtarget = KWMU |date = March 5, 2020 }} *{{source |url = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnPmfzAGkcU |title = Take your freedom of choice seriously {{!}} Dorsa Derakhshani {{!}} TEDxYouth@München |author = Dorsa Derakhshani |pub = YouTube |date = August 22, 2019 }} *{{source |url = https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/29/opinion/iran-chess-woman-america.html |title = Why I Left Iran to Play Chess in America |author = Dorsa Derakhshani |pub = The New York Times |date = December 29, 2017 }} *{{source |url = https://www.chess.com/news/view/ousted-iranian-player-my-wardrobe-should-not-be-anyone-s-business-4013 |title = Ousted Iranian Player: 'My Wardrobe Should Not Be Anyone's Business!' |author = MikeKlein |pub = Chess.com |date = March 1, 2017 }} *{{source |url = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fybe_N4zv9Q |title = Round 2 Gibraltar Chess post-game interview with Dorsa Derakhshani |author = Gibraltar Chess |pub = YouTube |date = January 25, 2017 }} {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[Category:Chess]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:Spain]] [[Category:Catalonia]] [[Category:Iran]] [[Category:Minnesota]] [[Category:Tehran]] [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:Middle East]] [[Category:North America]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Islam]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Hijab]] [[Category:Acagastya (Wikinewsie)]] [[fr:Interview exclusive de la joueuse d'échecs iranienne Dorsa Derakhshani]] 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The callback function is * optional. */ function setStatus ( status, callback ) { var statusElement = $( "#reply-dialog-status" ); statusElement.fadeOut( function () { statusElement.html( status ).fadeIn( callback ); } ); } /** * Sets the panel status when an error happened. Good for use in * catch blocks. */ function setStatusError( e ) { console.error(e); setStatus( mw.msg( "rl-error-status" ) ); if( e.message ) { console.log( "Content request error: " + JSON.stringify( e.message ) ); } console.log( "DEBUG INFORMATION: '"+currentPageName+"' @ " + mw.config.get( "wgCurRevisionId" ),"parsoid",PARSOID_ENDPOINT+ encodeURIComponent(currentPageName).replace(/'/g,"%27")+"/"+mw.config.get("wgCurRevisionId") ); throw e; } /** * Given some wikitext, processes it to get just the text content. * This function should be identical to the MediaWiki function * that gets the wikitext between the equal signs and comes up * with the id's that anchor the headers. */ function wikitextToTextContent( wikitext ) { return decodeURIComponent( processCharEntities( wikitext ) ) .replace( /\[\[:?(?:[^\|\]]+?\|)?([^\]\|]+?)\]\]/g, "$1" ) .replace( /\{\{\s*tl\s*\|\s*(.+?)\s*\}\}/g, "{{$1}}" ) .replace( /\{\{\s*[Uu]\s*\|\s*(.+?)\s*\}\}/g, "$1" ) .replace( /('''?)(.+?)\1/g, "$2" ) .replace( /<s>(.+?)<\/s>/g, "$1" ) .replace( /<big>(.+?)<\/big>/g, "$1" ) .replace( /<span.*?>(.*?)<\/span>/g, "$1" ); } function wikitextHeaderEqualsDomHeader( wikitextHeader, domHeader ) { return wikitextToTextContent( wikitextHeader ) === deArmorFrenchSpaces( domHeader ); } /** * Finds and returns the div that is the immediate parent of the * first talk page header on the page, so that we can read all the * sections by iterating through its child nodes. */ function findMainContentEl() { // Which header are we looking for? var targetHeader = "h2"; if( xfdType || currentPageName.startsWith( RFA_PG ) ) targetHeader = "h3"; if( currentPageName.startsWith( TTDYK ) ) targetHeader = "h4"; // The element itself will be the text span in the h2; its // parent will be the h2; and the parent of the h2 is the // content container that we want var candidates = document.querySelectorAll( targetHeader + " > span.mw-headline" ); if( !candidates.length ) return null; var candidate = candidates[candidates.length-1].parentElement.parentElement; // Compatibility with User:Enterprisey/hover-edit-section // That script puts each section in its own div, so we need to // go out another level if it's running if( candidate.className === "hover-edit-section" ) { return candidate.parentElement; } else { return candidate; } } /** * Gets the wikitext of a page with the given title (namespace required). * Returns an object with keys "content" and "timestamp". */ function getWikitext( title, useCaching ) { if( useCaching === undefined ) useCaching = false; if( useCaching && getWikitextCache[ title ] ) { return $.when( getWikitextCache[ title ] ); } return $.getJSON( mw.util.wikiScript( "api" ), { format: "json", action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", rvslots: "main", rvlimit: 1, titles: title } ).then( function ( data ) { var pageId = Object.keys( data.query.pages )[0]; if( data.query.pages[pageId].revisions ) { var revObj = data.query.pages[pageId].revisions[0]; var result = { timestamp: revObj.timestamp, content: revObj.slots.main["*"] }; getWikitextCache[ title ] = result; return result; } return {}; } ); } /** * Creates userspcLinkRgx. Called in handleWrapperClick and the test * runner at the bottom. */ function buildUserspcLinkRgx() { var nsIdMap = mw.config.get( "wgNamespaceIds" ); var nsRgxFragments = []; var contribsSecondFrag = ":" + escapeForRegex( mw.messages.get( "mycontris" ) ) + "\\/"; for( var nsName in nsIdMap ) { if( !nsIdMap.hasOwnProperty( nsName ) ) continue; switch( nsIdMap[nsName] ) { case 2: case 3: nsRgxFragments.push( escapeForRegex( capFirstLetter( nsName ) ) + "\\s*:" ); break; case -1: nsRgxFragments.push( escapeForRegex( capFirstLetter( nsName ) ) + contribsSecondFrag ); break; } } userspcLinkRgx = {}; userspcLinkRgx.spc = "(?:" + nsRgxFragments.join( "|" ).replace( /_/g, " " ) + ")"; userspcLinkRgx.und = userspcLinkRgx.spc.replace( / /g, "_" ); userspcLinkRgx.both = userspcLinkRgx.spc.replace( / /g, "(?: |_)" ); } /** * Is there a signature (four tildes) present in the given text, * outside of a nowiki element? */ function hasSig( text ) { // no literal signature? if( !text.includes( LITERAL_SIGNATURE ) ) return false; // if there's a literal signature and no nowiki elements, // there must be a real signature if( !text.includes( "<nowiki>" ) ) return true; // Save all nowiki spans var nowikiSpanStarts = []; // list of ignored span beginnings var nowikiSpanLengths = []; // list of ignored span lengths var NOWIKI_RE = /<nowiki>.*?<\/nowiki>/g; var spanMatch; do { spanMatch = NOWIKI_RE.exec( text ); if( spanMatch ) { nowikiSpanStarts.push( spanMatch.index ); nowikiSpanLengths.push( spanMatch[0].length ); } } while( spanMatch ); // So that we don't check every ignore span every time var nowikiSpanStartIdx = 0; var LIT_SIG_RE = new RegExp( LITERAL_SIGNATURE, "g" ); var sigMatch; matchLoop: do { sigMatch = LIT_SIG_RE.exec( text ); if( sigMatch ) { // Check that we're not inside a nowiki for( var nwIdx = nowikiSpanStartIdx; nwIdx < nowikiSpanStarts.length; nwIdx++ ) { if( sigMatch.index > nowikiSpanStarts[nwIdx] ) { if ( sigMatch.index + sigMatch[0].length <= nowikiSpanStarts[nwIdx] + nowikiSpanLengths[nwIdx] ) { // Invalid sig continue matchLoop; } else { // We'll never encounter this span again, since // headers only get later and later in the wikitext nowikiSpanStartIdx = nwIdx; } } } // We aren't inside a nowiki return true; } } while( sigMatch ); return false; } /** * Given an Element object, attempt to recover a username from it. * Also will check up to two elements prior to the passed element. * Returns null if no username was found. Otherwise, returns an * object with these properties: * * - username: The username that we found. * - link: The DOM object for the link from which we got the * username. */ function findUsernameInElem( el ) { if( !el ) return null; var links; for( let i = 0; i < 3; i++ ) { if( el === null ) break; links = el.tagName.toLowerCase() === "a" ? [ el ] : el.querySelectorAll( "a" ); //console.log(i,"top of outer for in findUsernameInElem ",el, " links -> ",links); // Compatibility with "Comments in Local Time" if( el.className.includes( "localcomments" ) ) i--; // If we couldn't get any links, try again with prev elem if( !links ) continue; var link; // his name isn't zelda for( var j = 0; j < links.length; j++ ) { link = links[j]; //console.log(link,decodeURIComponent(link.getAttribute("href"))); if( link.className.includes( "mw-selflink" ) ) { return { username: currentPageName.replace( /.+:/, "" ) .replace( /_/g, " " ), link: link }; } // Also matches redlinks. Why people have redlinks in their sigs on // purpose, I may never know. //console.log( "^\\/(?:wiki\\/" + userspcLinkRgx.und + /(.+?)(?:\/.+?)?(?:#.+)?|w\/index\.php\?title=User(?:_talk)?:(.+?)&action=edit&redlink=1/.source + ")$" ) var sigLinkRe = new RegExp( "\\/(?:wiki\\/" + userspcLinkRgx.und + /(.+?)(?:\/.+?)?(?:#.+)?|w\/index\.php\?title=/.source + userspcLinkRgx.und + /(.+?)&action=edit&redlink=1/.source + ")$" ); var liveDecodedHref = decodeURIComponent( link.getAttribute( "href" ) ); if( liveDecodedHref.startsWith( "/" ) ) { liveDecodedHref = "https:" + mw.config.get( "wgServer" ) + liveDecodedHref; } var usernameMatch = sigLinkRe.exec( liveDecodedHref ); if( usernameMatch ) { //console.log("usernameMatch",usernameMatch) var rawUsername = usernameMatch[1] ? usernameMatch[1] : usernameMatch[2]; return { username: decodeURIComponent( rawUsername ).replace( /_/g, " " ), link: link }; } } // Go backwards one element and try again el = el.previousElementSibling; } return null; } /** * Given a reply-link-wrapper span, attempts to find who wrote * the comment that precedes it. For information about the return * value, see the documentation for findUsernameInElem. */ function getCommentAuthor( wrapper ) { var sigNode = wrapper.previousSibling; //console.log(sigNode,sigNode.style,sigNode.style ? sigNode.style.getPropertyValue("size"):""); var smallOrFake = sigNode.nodeType === 1 && ( sigNode.tagName.toLowerCase() === "small" || ( sigNode.tagName.toLowerCase() === "span" && sigNode.style && ( sigNode.style.getPropertyValue( "font-size" ) === "85%" || sigNode.style.getPropertyValue( "font-size" ).indexOf( "small" ) === 0 ) ) ); var possUserLinkElem = ( smallOrFake && sigNode.children.length > 1 ) ? sigNode.children[sigNode.children.length-1] : sigNode.previousElementSibling; return findUsernameInElem( possUserLinkElem ); } /** * Given the wikitext of a section, attempt to find the first edit * request template in it, and then mark that template as answered. * Returns the modified section wikitext. */ function markEditReqAnswered( sectionWikitext ) { var editReqMatch = EDIT_REQ_TPL_REGEX.exec( sectionWikitext ); if( !editReqMatch ) { console.error( "Couldn't find an edit request!" ); return sectionWikitext; } var ansParamMatch = /ans(wered)?=.*?(\||\}\})/.exec( editReqMatch[0] ); if( !ansParamMatch ) { sectionWikitext = sectionWikitext.replace( editReqMatch[0], editReqMatch[0].replace( "}}", "answered=yes}}" ) ); } else { var newEditReqTpl = editReqMatch[0].replace( ansParamMatch[0], "answered=yes" + ansParamMatch[2] ); sectionWikitext = sectionWikitext.replace( editReqMatch[0], newEditReqTpl ); } return sectionWikitext; } /** * Ascend until dd or li, or a p directly under div.mw-parser-output. * live is true if we're on the live DOM (and thus we have our own UI * elements to deal with) and false if we're on the psd DOM. */ function ascendToCommentContainer( startNode, live, recordPath ) { var currNode = startNode; if( recordPath === undefined ) recordPath = false; var path = []; var lcTag; var headerRegex = /h\d+/i; function hasHeaderAsAnyPreviousSibling( node ) { do { if( headerRegex.test( node.tagName ) ) { return true; } node = node.previousElementSibling; } while( node ); } function isActualContainer( node, nodeLcTag ) { if( nodeLcTag === undefined ) nodeLcTag = node.tagName.toLowerCase(); return /dd|li/.test( nodeLcTag ) || ( ( nodeLcTag === "p" || nodeLcTag === "div" ) && ( node.parentNode.className === "mw-parser-output" || hasHeaderAsAnyPreviousSibling( node ) || node.parentNode.className === "hover-edit-section" || ( node.parentNode.tagName.toLowerCase() === "section" && node.parentNode.dataset.mwSectionId ) ) ); } var smallContainerNodeLimit = live ? 3 : 1; do { currNode = currNode.parentNode; lcTag = currNode.tagName.toLowerCase(); if( lcTag === "html" ) { console.error( "ascendToCommentContainer reached root" ); break; } if( recordPath ) path.unshift( currNode ); //console.log( "checking isActualContainer for ", currNode, isActualContainer( currNode, lcTag ), // lcTag === "small", isActualContainer( currNode.parentNode ), // currNode.parentNode.childNodes, // currNode.parentNode.childNodes.length ); } while( !isActualContainer( currNode, lcTag ) && !( lcTag === "small" && isActualContainer( currNode.parentNode ) && currNode.parentNode.childNodes.length <= smallContainerNodeLimit ) ); //console.log("ascendToCommentContainer from ",startNode," terminating, r.v. ",recordPath?path:currNode); return recordPath ? path : currNode; } /** * Given a Parsoid DOM and a link in the live DOM that is the link at the * end of a signature, return the corresponding element in the Parsoid DOM * that represents the same comment, or null if none was found. * * psd = Parsoid, live = in the current, live page DOM. */ function getCorrCmt( psdDom, sigLinkElem ) { // First, define some helper functions // Does this node have a timestamp in it? function hasTimestamp( node ) { //console.log ("hasTimestamp ",node, node.nodeType === 3,node.textContent.trim(), // TIMESTAMP_REGEX.test( node.textContent.trim() ), // node.childNodes.length === 1, // node.childNodes.length && TIMESTAMP_REGEX.test( node.childNodes[0].textContent.trim()), // " => ",( node.nodeType === 3 && // TIMESTAMP_REGEX.test( node.textContent.trim() ) ) || // ( node.childNodes.length === 1 && // TIMESTAMP_REGEX.test( node.childNodes[0].textContent.trim() ) ) ); //console.log(node,node.textContent.trim(),TIMESTAMP_REGEX.test(node.textContent.trim())); var validTag = node.nodeType === 3 || ( node.nodeType === 1 && ( node.tagName.toLowerCase() === "small" || node.tagName.toLowerCase() === "span" ) ); return ( validTag && TIMESTAMP_REGEX.test( node.textContent.trim() ) || ( node.childNodes.length === 1 && TIMESTAMP_REGEX.test( node.childNodes[0].textContent.trim() ) ) ); } // Get prefix that's the actual comment function getPrefixComment( theNodes ) { var prefix = []; for( var j = 0; j < theNodes.length; j++ ) { prefix.push( theNodes[j] ); if( hasTimestamp( theNodes[j] ) ) break; } return prefix; } /** * From a "container elem" (like the whole dd, li, or p that has a * comment), get the prefix that ends in a timestamp (because other * comments might be after the timestamp), and return the text content. */ function surrTextContentFromElem( elem ) { var surrListElemNodes = elem.childNodes; // nodeType 8 is for comments return getPrefixComment( surrListElemNodes ) .map( function ( c ) { return ( c.nodeType !== 8 ) ? c.textContent : ""; } ) .join( "" ).trim(); } /** From a "container elem" (dd, li, or p), remove all but the first comment. */ function onlyFirstComment( container ) { //console.log("onlyFirstComment top container and container.childNodes",container,container.childNodes); if( container.childNodes.length === 1 && container.children[0].tagName.toLowerCase() === "small" ) { console.log( "[onlyFirstComment] container only had a small in it" ); container = container.children[0]; } var i, autosignedIdx, autosigned = container.querySelector( "small.autosigned" ); if( autosigned && ( autosignedIdx = iterableToList( container.childNodes ).includes( autosigned ) ) ) { i = autosignedIdx; } else { var childNodes = container.childNodes; for( i = 0; i < childNodes.length; i++ ) { if( hasTimestamp( childNodes[i] ) ) { //console.log( "[oFC] found a timestamp in ",childNodes[i]); break; } } if( i === childNodes.length ) { throw new Error( "[onlyFirstComment] No timestamp found" ); } } //console.log("[onlyFirstComment] killing all after ",i,container.childNodes[i]); i++; var elemToRemove; while( elemToRemove = container.childNodes[i] ) { container.removeChild( elemToRemove ); } } // End helper functions, begin actual code // We dump this object for debugging in the event of an error var corrCmtDebug = {}; // Convert live href to psd href (aka newHref) var newHref, liveHref = decodeURIComponent( sigLinkElem.getAttribute( "href" ) ); corrCmtDebug.liveHref = liveHref; if( sigLinkElem.className.includes( "mw-selflink" ) ) { newHref = "./" + currentPageName; } else { if( /^\/wiki/.test( liveHref ) ) { var hrefTokens = liveHref.split( ":" ); if( hrefTokens.length !== 2 ) throw new Error( "Malformed href" ); newHref = "./" + canonicalizeNs( hrefTokens[0].replace( /^\/wiki\//, "" ) ).replace( / /g, "_" ) + ":" + hrefTokens[1] .replace( /^Contributions%2F/, "Contributions/" ) .replace( /%2F/g, "/" ) .replace( /%23/g, "#" ) .replace( /%26/g, "&" ) .replace( /%3D/g, "=" ) .replace( /%2C/g, "," ); } else { var REDLINK_HREF_RGX = /^\/w\/index\.php\?title=(.+?)&action=edit&redlink=1$/; var redlinkMatch = REDLINK_HREF_RGX.exec( liveHref ); if( redlinkMatch ) { newHref = "./" + redlinkMatch[1]; } else { newHref = liveHref.replace( /_/g, '%20' ); } } } newHref = newHref.replace( /\\/g, "\\\\" ) .replace( /'/g, "\\'" ) .replace( /\?/g, "%3F" ); var livePath = ascendToCommentContainer( sigLinkElem, /* live */ true, /* recordPath */ true ); corrCmtDebug.newHref = newHref; corrCmtDebug.livePath = livePath; // Deal with the case where the comment has multiple links to // sigLinkElem's href; we will store the index of the link we want. // null means there aren't multiple links. if( liveHref ) { liveHref = liveHref.replace( /'/g, "\\'" ); } var liveDupeLinks = livePath[0].querySelectorAll( "a" + ( liveHref ? ( "[href='" + liveHref + "']" ) : ".mw-selflink" ) ); if( !liveDupeLinks ) throw new Error( "Couldn't select live dupe link" ); var liveDupeLinkIdx = ( liveDupeLinks.length > 1 ) ? iterableToList( liveDupeLinks ).indexOf( sigLinkElem ) : null; //console.log("liveDupeLinkIdx",liveDupeLinkIdx); //console.log("livePath[0]",livePath[0],livePath[0].childNodes); var liveClone = livePath[0].cloneNode( /* deep */ true ); // Remove our own UI elements var ourUiSelector = ".reply-link-wrapper,#reply-link-panel"; iterableToList( liveClone.querySelectorAll( ourUiSelector ) ).forEach( function ( n ) { n.parentNode.removeChild( n ); } ); //console.log("(BEFORE) liveClone",liveClone,liveClone.childNodes); onlyFirstComment( liveClone ); //console.log("(AFTER) liveClone",liveClone,liveClone.childNodes); // Process it a bit to make it look a bit more like the Parsoid output var liveAutoNumberedLinks = liveClone.querySelectorAll( "a.external.autonumber" ); for( var i = 0; i < liveAutoNumberedLinks.length; i++ ) { liveAutoNumberedLinks[i].textContent = ""; } var liveSelflinks = liveClone.querySelectorAll( "a.mw-selflink.selflink" ); for( var i = 0; i < liveSelflinks.length; i++ ) { liveSelflinks[i].href = "/wiki/" + currentPageName; } // "Comments in Local Time" compatibility: the text content is // gonna contain the modified time stamp, but the original time // stamp is still there var localCommentsSpan = liveClone.querySelector( "span.localcomments" ); if( localCommentsSpan ) { var dateNode = document.createTextNode( localCommentsSpan.getAttribute( "title" ) ); localCommentsSpan.parentNode.replaceChild( dateNode, localCommentsSpan ); } // User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/teahouseTalkbackLink.js compatibility: // get rid of the |C|TB that it adds var teahouseTalkbackLink = liveClone.querySelector( "a[id^=TBsubmit]" ); if( teahouseTalkbackLink ) { teahouseTalkbackLink.parentNode.removeChild( teahouseTalkbackLink.nextSibling ); for( var ttlIdx = 0; ttlIdx < 3; ttlIdx++ ) { teahouseTalkbackLink.parentNode.removeChild( teahouseTalkbackLink.previousSibling ); } teahouseTalkbackLink.parentNode.removeChild( teahouseTalkbackLink ); } var adminMarksClass = liveClone.querySelectorAll( "b.adminMark" ); if ( adminMarksClass.length > 0 ) { adminMarksClass.forEach( function ( currentValue, currentIndex, listObj ) { currentValue.parentNode.removeChild( currentValue ); } ); } // TODO: Optimization - surrTextContentFromElem does the prefixing // operation a second time, even though we already called onlyFirstComment // on it. var liveTextContent = surrTextContentFromElem( liveClone ); console.log("liveTextContent >>>>>"+liveTextContent + "<<<<<"); function normalizeTextContent( tc ) { return deArmorFrenchSpaces( tc ); } liveTextContent = normalizeTextContent( liveTextContent ); var selector = livePath.map( function ( node ) { return node.tagName.toLowerCase(); } ).join( " " ) + " a[href^='" + newHref + "']"; // TODO: Optimization opportunity - run querySelectorAll only on the // section that we know contains the comment var psdLinks = iterableToList( psdDom.querySelectorAll( selector ) ); console.log("(",liveDupeLinkIdx, ")",selector, " --> ", psdLinks); var oldPsdLinks = psdLinks, newHrefLen = newHref.length, hrefSubstr; psdLinks = []; for( var i = 0; i < oldPsdLinks.length; i++ ) { hrefSubstr = oldPsdLinks[i].getAttribute( "href" ).substring( newHrefLen ); if( !hrefSubstr || hrefSubstr.indexOf( "#" ) === 0 ) { psdLinks.push( oldPsdLinks[i] ); } } // Narrow down by entire textContent of list element var psdCorrLinks = []; // the corresponding link elem(s) if( liveDupeLinkIdx === null ) { for( var i = 0; i < psdLinks.length; i++ ) { var psdContainer = ascendToCommentContainer( psdLinks[i], /* live */ false, true ); //console.log("psdContainer",psdContainer); var psdTextContent = normalizeTextContent( surrTextContentFromElem( psdContainer[0] ) ); //console.log(i,">>>"+psdTextContent+"<<<"); if( psdTextContent === liveTextContent ) { psdCorrLinks.push( psdLinks[i] ); } /* else { //console.log(i,"len: psd live",psdTextContent.length,liveTextContent.length); for(var j = 0; j < Math.min(psdTextContent.length, liveTextContent.length); j++) { if(psdTextContent.charAt(j)!==liveTextContent.charAt(j)) { //console.log(i,j,"psd live", psdTextContent.codePointAt(j), liveTextContent.codePointAt( j ) ); break; } } } */ } } else { for( var i = 0; i < psdLinks.length; i++ ) { var psdContainer = ascendToCommentContainer( psdLinks[i], /* live */ false ); if( psdContainer.dataset.replyLinkGeCorrCo ) continue; var psdTextContent = normalizeTextContent( surrTextContentFromElem( psdContainer ) ); console.log(i,">>>"+psdTextContent+"<<<"); if( psdTextContent === liveTextContent ) { var psdDupeLinks = psdContainer.querySelectorAll( "a[href='" + newHref + "']" ); psdCorrLinks.push( psdDupeLinks[ liveDupeLinkIdx ] ); } // Flag to ensure we don't take a link from this container again psdContainer.dataset.replyLinkGeCorrCo = true; } } if( psdCorrLinks.length === 0 ) { console.error( "Failed to find a matching comment in the Parsoid DOM." ); return null; } else if( psdCorrLinks.length > 1 ) { console.error( "Found multiple matching comments in the Parsoid DOM." ); return null; } return psdCorrLinks[0]; } /** * Given a page title, the Parsoid output (GET /page/html endpoint) * of that page, page and a DOM object in the current page * corresponding to a link in a signature, locate the section * containing that comment. That section may not be in the provided * page! Returns an object with these properties: * * - page: The full title of the page directly containing the * comment (in its wikitext, not through transclusion). * - sectionName: The anticipated wikitext section name. Should * appear inside the equal signs at the above index. * - sectionDupeIdx: If there are multiple sections with the same * name, the 0-based index of the section with the comment among * those sections. Otherwise, 0. * - sectionLevel: The anticipated wikitext section level (e.g. * 2 for an h2) * - nearbyMwId: The Parsoid ID of some element near the * comment (in practice, a userspace link) for jumping purposes. * * Parsoid is abbreviated here as "psd" in variables and comments. */ function findSection( psdDomPageTitle, psdDomString, sigLinkElem ) { console.log("findSection(",psdDomPageTitle,", ...)"); //console.log(psdDomString); var domParser = new DOMParser(), psdDom = domParser.parseFromString( psdDomString, "text/html" ); var corrLink = getCorrCmt( psdDom, sigLinkElem ); if( corrLink === null ) { return $.when(); } //console.log("STEP 1 SUCCESS",corrLink); var corrCmt = ascendToCommentContainer( corrLink, /* live */ false ); // Ascend until we hit something in a transclusion var currNode = corrLink; var tsclnId = null; do { if( currNode.getAttribute( "about" ) && currNode.getAttribute( "about" ).indexOf( "#mwt" ) === 0 ) { tsclnId = currNode.getAttribute( "about" ); break; } currNode = currNode.parentNode; } while( currNode.tagName.toLowerCase() !== "html" ); //console.log( "tsclnId", tsclnId ); // Helper function: are we in a pseudo-section? (Unused, at the moment.) function inPseudo( headerElement ) { var currNodeIP = headerElement; // This requires Parsoid HTML v 2.0.0 do { if( currNodeIP.nodeType === 1 && currNodeIP.matches( "section" ) ) { return currNodeIP.dataset.mwSectionId < 0; break; } currNodeIP = currNodeIP.parentNode; } while( currNodeIP ); return false; } // Now, get the nearest header above us var currNode = corrCmt; var nearestHeader = null; var HTML_HEADER_RGX = /^h\d$/; do { if( HTML_HEADER_RGX.exec( currNode.tagName.toLowerCase() ) ) { // Commented because I don't think the !inPseudo requirement is necessary 2019-nov-01 //if( !inPseudo( currNode ) ) { nearestHeader = currNode; break; //} } var containedHeaders = currNode.querySelectorAll( HEADER_SELECTOR ); if( containedHeaders.length ) { var nearestHdrIdx = containedHeaders.length - 1; // Commented because I don't think the !inPseudo requirement is necessary 2019-nov-01 // TODO this is an extraordinarily silly while loop; it has been temporarily commented 2020-apr-25 //while( nearestHdrIdx >= 0 ){//&& inPseudo( containedHeaders[ nearestHdrIdx ] ) ) // nearestHdrIdx--; //} if( nearestHdrIdx >= 0 ) { nearestHeader = containedHeaders[ nearestHdrIdx ]; break; } } if( currNode.previousElementSibling ) { currNode = currNode.previousElementSibling; continue; } currNode = currNode.parentNode; } while( currNode.tagName.toLowerCase() !== "body" ); // Get the target page (page actually containing the comment) var targetPage; if( tsclnId === null ) { console.warn( "tsclnId === null" ); targetPage = psdDomPageTitle; } else { var tsclnInfoSel = "*[about='" + tsclnId + "'][typeof='mw:Transclusion']", infoJson = JSON.parse( psdDom.querySelector( tsclnInfoSel ) .dataset.mw ); // First, check the first and last wikitext segments to see if they have the header var firstWktxtSegIdx = 0; while( infoJson.parts[firstWktxtSegIdx].template && infoJson.parts[firstWktxtSegIdx].template.target.href.startsWith( "Template:" ) && firstWktxtSegIdx < infoJson.parts.length ) { firstWktxtSegIdx++; } if( firstWktxtSegIdx < infoJson.parts.length && typeof infoJson.parts[firstWktxtSegIdx] === typeof '' ) { var firstWktxtSeg = infoJson.parts[firstWktxtSegIdx]; var headerMatch = null; do { headerMatch = HEADER_REGEX.exec( firstWktxtSeg ); if( headerMatch ) { if( wikitextHeaderEqualsDomHeader( headerMatch[2], nearestHeader.textContent ) ) { targetPage = psdDomPageTitle; break; } } } while( headerMatch ); } } if( !targetPage ) { var lastWktxtSegIdx = infoJson.parts.length - 1; while( infoJson.parts[lastWktxtSegIdx].template && infoJson.parts[lastWktxtSegIdx].template.target.href.startsWith( "Template:" ) && lastWktxtSegIdx >= 0 ) { lastWktxtSegIdx--; } if( lastWktxtSegIdx >= 0 && typeof infoJson.parts[lastWktxtSegIdx] === typeof '' ) { var lastWktxtSeg = infoJson.parts[lastWktxtSegIdx]; var headerMatch = null; do { headerMatch = HEADER_REGEX.exec( lastWktxtSeg ); if( headerMatch ) { if( wikitextHeaderEqualsDomHeader( headerMatch[2], nearestHeader.textContent ) ) { targetPage = psdDomPageTitle; break; } } } while( headerMatch ); } } var recursiveCalls = $.when(); if( !targetPage ) { // Recurse on all non-top-level Templates! var pages = infoJson.parts.filter( function ( part ) { return part.template && part.template.target && part.template.target.href && ( !part.template.target.href.startsWith("./Template") || ( part.template.target.href.match( new RegExp( '/', 'g' ) ) || [] ).length >= 2 ); } ); if( pages.length ) { var pageNames = pages.map( function ( part ) { return part.template.target.href.substring( 2 ); // remove the ./ } ); var deferreds = pageNames.map( function ( pageName ) { return $.get( PARSOID_ENDPOINT + encodeURIComponent( pageName ) ) .then( function ( data ) { return data; } ); // truncate to first argument, which is the data } ); recursiveCalls = $.when.apply( $, deferreds ).then( function () { var results = arguments; // use keyword "arguments" to access deferred results var deferreds2 = []; if( pageNames.length !== results.length ) { console.error(pageNames,results); throw new Error( "pageNames.length !== results.length: " + pageNames.length + " " + results.length ); } for( var i = 0; i < pageNames.length; i++ ) { deferreds2.push( findSection( pageNames[i], results[i], sigLinkElem ) ); } return $.when.apply( $, deferreds2 ).then( function () { var results2 = Array.prototype.slice.call( arguments ); var namesAndResults2 = []; if( pageNames.length !== results2.length ) { throw new Error( "pageNames.length !== results2.length: " + pageNames.length + " " + results2.length ); } for( var i = 0; i < pageNames.length; i++ ) { if( results2[i] ) { namesAndResults2.push( [ pageNames[i], results2[i] ] ); } } if( namesAndResults2.length === 0 ) { return null; } else if( namesAndResults2.length === 1 ) { return namesAndResults2[0][1]; } else { var allSameName = namesAndResults2.every( function ( nameAndResult ) { return nameAndResult[0] === namesAndResults2[0][0]; } ); if( allSameName ) { return namesAndResults2[0][1]; } else { console.error( "WTF", namesAndResults2 ); } } } ); } ); } } return recursiveCalls.then( function ( data ) { if( data ) { return data; } else if( nearestHeader === null ) { return { page: targetPage, sectionName: "", sectionDupeIdx: 0, sectionLevel: 0, nearbyMwId: corrCmt.id }; } else { // We tried recursing, and it didn't work, so the // section must be on the current page targetPage = psdDomPageTitle; // Finally, get the index of our nearest header var allHeaders = iterableToList( psdDom.querySelectorAll( HEADER_SELECTOR ) ); var sectionDupeIdx = 0; for( var i = 0; i < allHeaders.length; i++ ) { if( allHeaders[i].textContent === nearestHeader.textContent ) { if( allHeaders[i] === nearestHeader ) { break; } else { sectionDupeIdx++; } } } var result = { page: targetPage, sectionName: nearestHeader.textContent, sectionDupeIdx: sectionDupeIdx, sectionLevel: nearestHeader.tagName.substring( 1 ), // that is, cut off the "h" at the beginning nearbyMwId: corrCmt.id }; //console.log("findSection return val: ",result); return result; } } ); } /** * Given some wikitext that's split into sections, return the full * wikitext (including header and newlines until the next header) of * the section with the given name. To get the content before the * first header, sectionName should be "". * * Performs a sanity check with the given section name. */ function getSectionWikitext( wikitext, sectionName, sectionDupeIdx ) { console.log("In getSectionWikitext, sectionName = >" + sectionName + "< (wikitext.length = " + wikitext.length + ")"); //console.log("wikitext (first 1000 chars) is " + dirtyWikitext.substring(0, 1000)); // There are certain locations where a header may appear in the // wikitext, but will not be present in the HTML; such as code // blocks or comments. So we keep track of those ranges // and ignore headings inside those. var ignoreSpanStarts = []; // list of ignored span beginnings var ignoreSpanLengths = []; // list of ignored span lengths var IGNORE_RE = /(<pre>[\s\S]+?<\/pre>)|(<source.+?>[\s\S]+?<\/source>)|(<!--[\s\S]+?-->)/g; var ignoreSpanMatch; do { ignoreSpanMatch = IGNORE_RE.exec( wikitext ); if( ignoreSpanMatch ) { //console.log("ignoreSpan ",ignoreSpanStarts.length," = ",ignoreSpanMatch); ignoreSpanStarts.push( ignoreSpanMatch.index ); ignoreSpanLengths.push( ignoreSpanMatch[0].length ); } } while( ignoreSpanMatch ); var startIdx = -1; // wikitext index of section start var endIdx = -1; // wikitext index of section end var headerCounter = 0; var headerMatch; // So that we don't check every ignore span every time var ignoreSpanStartIdx = 0; var dupeCount = 0; var lookingForEnd = false; if( sectionName === "" ) { // Getting first section startIdx = 0; lookingForEnd = true; } // Reset regex state, if for some reason we're not running this for the first time HEADER_REGEX.lastIndex = 0; headerMatchLoop: do { headerMatch = HEADER_REGEX.exec( wikitext ); if( headerMatch ) { // Check that we're not inside one of the "ignore" spans for( var igIdx = ignoreSpanStartIdx; igIdx < ignoreSpanStarts.length; igIdx++ ) { if( headerMatch.index > ignoreSpanStarts[igIdx] ) { if ( headerMatch.index + headerMatch[0].length <= ignoreSpanStarts[igIdx] + ignoreSpanLengths[igIdx] ) { console.log("(IGNORED, igIdx="+igIdx+") Header " + headerCounter + " (idx " + headerMatch.index + "): >" + headerMatch[0].trim() + "<"); // Invalid header continue headerMatchLoop; } else { // We'll never encounter this span again, since // headers only get later and later in the wikitext ignoreSpanStartIdx = igIdx; } } } //console.log("Header " + headerCounter + " (idx " + headerMatch.index + "): >" + headerMatch[0].trim() + "<"); // Note that if the lookingForEnd block were second, // then two consecutive matching section headers might // result in the wrong section being matched! if( lookingForEnd ) { endIdx = headerMatch.index; break; } else if( wikitextHeaderEqualsDomHeader( /* wikitext */ headerMatch[2], /* dom */ sectionName ) ) { if( dupeCount === sectionDupeIdx ) { startIdx = headerMatch.index; lookingForEnd = true; } else { dupeCount++; } } } headerCounter++; } while( headerMatch ); if( startIdx < 0 ) { throw( "Could not find section named \"" + sectionName + "\" (dupe idx " + sectionDupeIdx + ")" ); } // If we encountered no section after the target section, // then the target was the last one and the slice will go // until the end of wikitext if( endIdx < 0 ) { //console.log("[getSectionWikitext] endIdx negative, setting to " + wikitext.length); endIdx = wikitext.length; } //console.log("[getSectionWikitext] Slicing from " + startIdx + " to " + endIdx); return wikitext.slice( startIdx, endIdx ); } /** * Converts a signature index to a string index into the given * section wikitext. For example, if sigIdx is 1, then this function * will return the index in sectionWikitext pointing to right * after the second signature appearing in sectionWikitext. * * Returns -1 if we couldn't find anything. */ function sigIdxToStrIdx( sectionWikitext, sigIdx ) { console.log( "In sigIdxToStrIdx, sigIdx = " + sigIdx ); // There are certain regions that we skip while attaching links: // // - Spans with the class delsort-notice // - Divs with the class xfd-relist (and other divs) // // So, we grab the corresponding wikitext regions with regexes, // and store each region's start index in spanStartIndices, and // each region's length in spanLengths. Then, whenever we find a // signature with the right index, if it's included in one of // these regions, we skip it and move on. var spanStartIndices = []; var spanLengths = []; var DELSORT_SPAN_RE_TXT = /<small class="delsort-notice">(?:<small>.+?<\/small>|.)+?<\/small>/.source; var XFD_RELIST_RE_TXT = /<div class="xfd_relist"[\s\S]+?<\/div>(\s*|<!--.+?-->)*/.source; var STRUCK_RE_TXT = /<s>.+?<\/s>/.source; var SKIP_REGION_RE = new RegExp("(" + DELSORT_SPAN_RE_TXT + ")|(" + XFD_RELIST_RE_TXT + ")|(" + STRUCK_RE_TXT + ")", "ig"); var skipRegionMatch; do { skipRegionMatch = SKIP_REGION_RE.exec( sectionWikitext ); if( skipRegionMatch ) { spanStartIndices.push( skipRegionMatch.index ); spanLengths.push( skipRegionMatch[0].length ); } } while( skipRegionMatch ); //console.log(spanStartIndices,spanLengths); var dateFmtRgx = DATE_FMT_RGX[mw.config.get( "wgServer" )]; if( !dateFmtRgx ) { throw new Error( "Error! I don't know the native date format used by the server '" + mw.config.get( "wgServer" ) + "'!" ); } /* * I apologize for making you have to read this regex. * I made a summary, though: * * - a wikilink, without a ]] inside it * - some text, without a link to userspace or user talk space * - a timestamp * - as an alternative to all of the above, an autosigned script * and a timestamp * - some comments/whitespace or some non-whitespace * - finally, the end of the line * * It's also localized. */ var sigRgxSrc = "(?:" + /\[\[\s*(?:m:)?:?\s*/.source + "(" + userspcLinkRgx.both + /([^\]]|\](?!\]))*?/.source + ")" + /\]\]\)?/.source + "(" + /[^\[]|\[(?!\[)|\[\[/.source + "(?!" + userspcLinkRgx.both + "))*?" + DATE_FMT_RGX[mw.config.get( "wgServer" )] + /\s+\(UTC\)|class\s*=\s*"autosigned".+?\(UTC\)<\/small>/.source + ")" + /(\S*([ \t\f]|<!--.*?-->)*(?:\{\{.+?\}\})?(?!\S)|\s?\S+([ \t\f]|<!--.*?-->)*)$/.source; var sigRgx = new RegExp( sigRgxSrc, "igm" ); var matchIdx = 0; var match; var matchIdxEnd; var dstSpnIdx; sigMatchLoop: for( ; true ; matchIdx++ ) { match = sigRgx.exec( sectionWikitext ); if( !match ) { console.error("[sigIdxToStrIdx] out of matches"); return -1; } //console.log( "sig match (matchIdx = " + matchIdx + ") is >" + match[0] + "< (index = " + match.index + ")" ); matchIdxEnd = match.index + match[0].length; // Validate that we're not inside a delsort span for( dstSpnIdx = 0; dstSpnIdx < spanStartIndices.length; dstSpnIdx++ ) { //console.log(spanStartIndices[dstSpnIdx],match.index, // matchIdxEnd, spanStartIndices[dstSpnIdx] + // spanLengths[dstSpnIdx] ); if( match.index > spanStartIndices[dstSpnIdx] && ( matchIdxEnd <= spanStartIndices[dstSpnIdx] + spanLengths[dstSpnIdx] ) ) { // That wasn't really a match (as in, this match does not // correspond to any sig idx in the DOM), so we can't // increment matchIdx matchIdx--; continue sigMatchLoop; } } if( matchIdx === sigIdx ) { return match.index + match[0].length; } } } /** * Inserts fullReply on the next sensible line after strIdx in * sectionWikitext. indentLvl is the indentation level of the * comment we're replying to. * * This function essentially takes the indentation level and * position of the current comment, and looks for the first comment * that's indented strictly less than the current one. Then, it * puts the reply on the line right before that comment, and returns * the modified section wikitext. */ function insertTextAfterIdx( sectionWikitext, strIdx, indentLvl, fullReply ) { //console.log( "[insertTextAfterIdx] indentLvl = " + indentLvl ); // strIdx should point to the end of a line var counter = 0; while( ( sectionWikitext[ strIdx ] !== "\n" ) && ( counter++ <= 50 ) ) strIdx++; var slicedSecWikitext = sectionWikitext.slice( strIdx ); //console.log("slicedSecWikitext = >>" + slicedSecWikitext.slice(0,50) + "<<"); slicedSecWikitext = slicedSecWikitext.replace( /^\n/, "" ); var candidateLines = slicedSecWikitext.split( "\n" ); //console.log( "candidateLines =", candidateLines ); // number of the line in sectionWikitext that'll be right after reply var replyLine = 0; var INDENT_RE = /^[:*#]+/; if( slicedSecWikitext.trim().length > 0 ) { var currIndentation, currIndentationLvl, i; // Now, loop through all the comments replying to that // one and place our reply after the last one for( i = 0; i < candidateLines.length; i++ ) { if( candidateLines[i].trim() === "" ) { continue; } // Detect indentation level of current line currIndentation = INDENT_RE.exec( candidateLines[i] ); currIndentationLvl = currIndentation ? currIndentation[0].length : 0; //console.log(i + ">" + candidateLines[i] + "< => " + currIndentationLvl); if( currIndentationLvl <= indentLvl ) { // If it's an XfD, we might have found a relist // comment instead, so check for that if( xfdType && /<div class="xfd_relist"/.test( candidateLines[i] ) ) { // Our reply might go on the line above the xfd_relist line var potentialReplyLine = i; // Walk through the relist notice, line by line // After this loop, i will point to the line on which // the notice ends var NEW_COMMENTS_RE = /Please add new comments below this line/; while( !NEW_COMMENTS_RE.test( candidateLines[i] ) ) { i++; } // Relists are treated as if they're indented at level 1 if( 1 <= indentLvl ) { replyLine = potentialReplyLine; break; } } else { //console.log( "cIL <= iL, breaking" ); break; } } else { replyLine = i + 1; } } if( i === candidateLines.length ) { replyLine = i; } } else { // In this case, we may be replying to the last comment in a section replyLine = candidateLines.length; } // Walk backwards until non-empty line while( replyLine >= 1 && candidateLines[replyLine - 1].trim() === "" ) replyLine--; //console.log( "replyLine = " + replyLine ); // Splice into slicedSecWikitext slicedSecWikitext = candidateLines .slice( 0, replyLine ) .concat( [ fullReply ], candidateLines.slice( replyLine ) ) .join( "\n" ); // Remove extra newlines if( /\n\n\n+$/.test( slicedSecWikitext ) ) { slicedSecWikitext = slicedSecWikitext.trim() + "\n\n"; } // We may need an additional newline if the two slices don't have any var optionalNewline = ( !sectionWikitext.slice( 0, strIdx ).endsWith( "\n" ) && !slicedSecWikitext.startsWith( "\n" ) ) ? "\n" : ""; // Splice into sectionWikitext sectionWikitext = sectionWikitext.slice( 0, strIdx ) + optionalNewline + slicedSecWikitext; return sectionWikitext; } /** * Using the text in #reply-dialog-field, add a reply to the * current page. rplyToXfdNom is true if we're replying to an XfD nom, * in which case we should use an asterisk instead of a colon. * cmtAuthorDom is the username of the person who wrote the comment * we're replying to, parsed from the DOM. revObj is the object returned * by getWikitext for the page with the comment; findSectionResult is the * object returned by findSection for the comment. * * Returns a Deferred that resolves/rejects when the reply succeeds/fails. */ function doReply( indentation, header, sigIdx, cmtAuthorDom, rplyToXfdNom, revObj, findSectionResult ) { console.log("TOP OF doReply",header,findSectionResult); header = [ "" + findSectionResult.sectionLevel, findSectionResult.sectionName, findSectionResult.sectionDupeIdx ]; var deferred = $.Deferred(); var wikitext = revObj.content; try { // Generate reply in wikitext form var reply = document.getElementById( "reply-dialog-field" ).value.trim(); // Add a signature if one isn't already there if( !hasSig( reply ) ) { reply += " " + ( window.replyLinkSigPrefix ? window.replyLinkSigPrefix : "" ) + LITERAL_SIGNATURE; } var isUsingAutoIndentation = window.replyLinkAutoIndentation === "checkbox" ? ( !document.getElementById( "reply-link-option-auto-indent" ) || document.getElementById( "reply-link-option-auto-indent" ).checked ) : window.replyLinkAutoIndentation === "always"; if( isUsingAutoIndentation ) { var replyLines = reply.split( "\n" ); // If we're outdenting, reset indentation and add the // outdent template. This requires that there be at least // one character of indentation. var outdentCheckbox = document.getElementById( "reply-link-option-outdent" ); if( outdentCheckbox && outdentCheckbox.checked ) { replyLines[0] = "{" + "{od|" + indentation.slice( 0, -1 ) + "}}" + replyLines[0]; indentation = ""; } // Compose reply by adding indentation at the beginning of // each line (if not replying to an XfD nom) or {{pb}}'s // between lines (if replying to an XfD nom) var fullReply; if( rplyToXfdNom ) { // If there's a list in this reply, it's a bad idea to // use pb's, even though the markup'll probably be broken if( replyLines.some( function ( l ) { return l.substr( 0, 1 ) === "*"; } ) ) { fullReply = replyLines.map( function ( line ) { return indentation + "*" + line; } ).join( "\n" ); } else { fullReply = indentation + "* " + replyLines.join( "{{pb}}" ); } } else { fullReply = replyLines.map( function ( line ) { return indentation + ":" + line; } ).join( "\n" ); } } else { fullReply = reply; } // Prepare section metadata for getSectionWikitext call console.log( "in doReply, header =", header ); var sectionHeader, sectionIdx; if( header === null ) { sectionHeader = null, sectionIdx = -1; } else { sectionHeader = header[1], sectionDupeIdx = header[2]; } // Compatibility with User:Bility/copySectionLink if( document.querySelector( "span.mw-headline a#sectiontitlecopy0" ) ) { // If copySectionLink is active, the paragraph symbol at // the end is a fake sectionHeader = sectionHeader.replace( /\s*¶$/, "" ); } // Compatibility with the "auto-number headings" preference if( document.querySelector( "span.mw-headline-number" ) ) { sectionHeader = sectionHeader.replace( /^\d+ /, "" ); } var sectionWikitext = getSectionWikitext( wikitext, sectionHeader, sectionDupeIdx ); var oldSectionWikitext = sectionWikitext; // We'll String.replace old w/ new // Now, obtain the index of the end of the comment var strIdx = sigIdxToStrIdx( sectionWikitext, sigIdx ); // Check for a non-negative strIdx if( strIdx < 0 ) { throw( "Negative strIdx (signature not found in wikitext)" ); } // Determine the user who wrote the comment, for // edit-summary and sanity-check purposes var userRgx = new RegExp( /\[\[\s*(?:m:)?:?\s*/.source + userspcLinkRgx.both + /\s*(.+?)(?:\/.+?)?(?:#.+?)?\s*(?:\|.+?)?\]\]/.source, "ig" ); var userMatches = processCharEntitiesWikitext( sectionWikitext.slice( 0, strIdx ) ).match( userRgx ); var cmtAuthorWktxt = userRgx.exec( userMatches[userMatches.length - 1] )[1]; if( cmtAuthorWktxt === "DoNotArchiveUntil" ) { userRgx.lastIndex = 0; cmtAuthorWktxt = userRgx.exec( userMatches[userMatches.length - 2] )[1]; } // Normalize case, because that's what happens during // wikitext-to-HTML processing; also underscores to spaces function sanitizeUsername( u ) { u = u.charAt( 0 ).toUpperCase() + u.substr( 1 ); return u.replace( /_/g, " " ); } cmtAuthorWktxt = sanitizeUsername( cmtAuthorWktxt ); cmtAuthorDom = sanitizeUsername( cmtAuthorDom ); // Do a sanity check: is the sig username the same as the // DOM one? We attempt to check sigRedirectMapping in case // the naive check fails if( cmtAuthorWktxt !== cmtAuthorDom && processCharEntitiesWikitext( cmtAuthorWktxt ) !== cmtAuthorDom && sigRedirectMapping[ cmtAuthorWktxt ] !== cmtAuthorDom ) { throw new Error( "Sanity check on sig username failed! Found " + cmtAuthorWktxt + " but expected " + cmtAuthorDom + " (wikitext vs DOM)" ); } // Actually insert our reply into the section wikitext sectionWikitext = insertTextAfterIdx( sectionWikitext, strIdx, indentation.length, fullReply ); // Also, if the user wanted the edit request to be answered, // do that var editReqCheckbox = document.getElementById( "reply-link-option-edit-req" ); var markedEditReq = false; if( editReqCheckbox && editReqCheckbox.checked ) { sectionWikitext = markEditReqAnswered( sectionWikitext ); markedEditReq = true; } // If the user preferences indicate a dry run, print what the // wikitext would have been post-edit and bail out var dryRunCheckbox = document.getElementById( "reply-link-option-dry-run" ); if( window.replyLinkDryRun === "always" || ( dryRunCheckbox && dryRunCheckbox.checked ) ) { console.log( "~~~~~~ DRY RUN CONCLUDED ~~~~~~" ); console.log( sectionWikitext ); setStatus( "Check the console for the dry-run results." ); document.querySelector( "#reply-link-buttons button" ).disabled = false; deferred.resolve(); return deferred; } var newWikitext = wikitext.replace( oldSectionWikitext, sectionWikitext ); // Build summary var defaultSummmary = mw.msg( "rl-replying-to" ) + ( rplyToXfdNom ? xfdType + " nomination by " : "" ) + cmtAuthorWktxt + ( markedEditReq ? " and marking edit request as answered" : "" ); var customSummaryField = document.getElementById( "reply-link-summary" ); var summaryCore = defaultSummmary; if( window.replyLinkCustomSummary && customSummaryField.value ) { summaryCore = customSummaryField.value.trim(); } var summary = "/* " + sectionHeader + " */ " + summaryCore + mw.msg( "rl-advert" ); // Send another request, this time to actually edit the // page api.postWithToken( "csrf", { action: "edit", title: findSectionResult.page, summary: summary, text: newWikitext, basetimestamp: revObj.timestamp } ).done ( function ( data ) { // We put this function on the window object because we // give the user a "reload" link, and it'll trigger the function window.replyLinkReload = function () { window.location.hash = sectionHeader.replace( / /g, "_" ); if( findSectionResult.nearbyMwId ) { document.cookie = "parsoid_jump=" + findSectionResult.nearbyMwId; } window.location.reload( true ); }; if ( data && data.edit && data.edit.result && data.edit.result == "Success" ) { var needPurge = findSectionResult.page !== currentPageName; function finishReply( _ ) { var reloadHtml = window.replyLinkAutoReload ? mw.msg( "rl-reloading" ) : "<a href='javascript:window.replyLinkReload()' class='reply-link-reload'>" + mw.msg( "rl-reload" ) + "</a>"; setStatus( mw.msg( "rl-saved" ) + " (" + reloadHtml + ")" ); // Required to permit reload to happen, checked in onbeforeunload replyWasSaved = true; if( window.replyLinkAutoReload ) { window.replyLinkReload(); } deferred.resolve(); } if( needPurge ) { setStatus( "Reply saved! Purging..." ); api.post( { action: "purge", titles: currentPageName } ).done( finishReply ); } else { finishReply(); } } else { if( data && data.edit && data.edit.spamblacklist ) { setStatus( "Error! Your post contained a link on the <a href=" + "\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Spam_blacklist\"" + ">spam blacklist</a>. Remove the link(s) to: " + data.edit.spamblacklist.split( "|" ).join( ", " ) + " to allow saving." ); document.querySelector( "#reply-link-buttons button" ).disabled = false; } else { setStatus( "While saving, the edit query returned an error." + " Check the browser console for more information." ); } deferred.reject(); } //console.log(data); document.getElementById( "reply-dialog-field" ).style["background-image"] = ""; } ).fail ( function( code, result ) { setStatus( "While replying, the edit failed." ); console.log(code); console.log(result); deferred.reject(); } ); } catch ( e ) { setStatusError( e ); deferred.reject(); } return deferred; } function handleWrapperClick ( linkLabel, parent, rplyToXfdNom ) { return function ( evt ) { $.when( mw.messages.exists( INT_MSG_KEYS[0] ) ? 1 : api.loadMessages( INT_MSG_KEYS ) ).then( function () { var newLink = this; var newLinkWrapper = this.parentNode; if( !userspcLinkRgx ) { buildUserspcLinkRgx(); } // Remove previous panel var prevPanel = document.getElementById( "reply-link-panel" ); if( prevPanel ) { prevPanel.remove(); } // Reset previous cancel links var cancelLinks = iterableToList( document.querySelectorAll( ".reply-link-wrapper a" ) ); cancelLinks.forEach( function ( el ) { if( el != newLink ) el.textContent = el.dataset.originalLabel; } ); // Handle disable action if( newLink.textContent === linkLabel ) { // Disable this link newLink.textContent = mw.msg( "rl-cancel" ) + linkLabel; } else { // We've already cancelled the reply newLink.textContent = linkLabel; evt.preventDefault(); return false; } // Figure out the username of the author // of the comment we're replying to var cmtAuthorAndLink = getCommentAuthor( newLinkWrapper ); try { var cmtAuthor = cmtAuthorAndLink.username, cmtLink = cmtAuthorAndLink.link; } catch ( e ) { setStatusError( e ); } // Create panel var panelEl = document.createElement( "div" ); panelEl.id = "reply-link-panel"; panelEl.innerHTML = "<textarea id='reply-dialog-field' class='mw-ui-input'" + " placeholder='" + mw.msg( "rl-placeholder" ) + "'></textarea>" + ( window.replyLinkCustomSummary ? "<label for='reply-link-summary'>Summary: </label>" + "<input id='reply-link-summary' class='mw-ui-input' placeholder='Edit summary' " + "value='Replying to " + cmtAuthor.replace( /'/g, "&#39;" ) + "'/><br />" : "" ) + "<table style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td id='reply-link-buttons' style='width: " + ( window.replyLinkPreloadPing === "button" ? "325" : "255" ) + "px'>" + "<button id='reply-dialog-button' class='mw-ui-button mw-ui-progressive'>" + mw.msg( "rl-reply" ) + "</button> " + "<button id='reply-link-preview-button' class='mw-ui-button'>" + mw.msg( "rl-preview" ) + "</button>" + ( window.replyLinkPreloadPing === "button" ? " <button id='reply-link-ping-button' class='mw-ui-button'>Ping</button>" : "" ) + "<button id='reply-link-cancel-button' class='mw-ui-button mw-ui-quiet mw-ui-destructive'>" + mw.msg( "rl-cancel-button" ) + "</button></td>" + "<td id='reply-dialog-status'></span><div style='clear:left'></td></tr></table>" + "<div id='reply-link-options' class='gone-on-empty' style='margin-top: 0.5em'></div>" + "<div id='reply-link-preview' class='gone-on-empty' style='border: thin dashed gray; padding: 0.5em; margin-top: 0.5em'></div>"; parent.insertBefore( panelEl, newLinkWrapper.nextSibling ); var replyDialogField = document.getElementById( "reply-dialog-field" ); replyDialogField.style = "padding: 0.625em; min-height: 10em; margin-bottom: 0.75em; line-height: 1.3"; if( window.replyLinkPreloadPing === "always" && cmtAuthor && cmtAuthor !== mw.config.get( "wgUserName" ) && !/(\d+.){3}\d+/.test( cmtAuthor ) ) { replyDialogField.value = window.replyLinkPreloadPingTpl.replace( "##", cmtAuthor ); } // Fill up #reply-link-options function newOption( id, text, defaultOn ) { var newCheckbox = document.createElement( "input" ); newCheckbox.type = "checkbox"; newCheckbox.id = id; if( defaultOn ) { newCheckbox.checked = true; } var newLabel = document.createElement( "label" ); newLabel.htmlFor = id; newLabel.appendChild( document.createTextNode( text ) ); document.getElementById( "reply-link-options" ).appendChild( newCheckbox ); document.getElementById( "reply-link-options" ).appendChild( newLabel ); } // Fetch metadata about this specific comment var ourMetadata = metadata[this.id]; // If the dry-run option is "checkbox", add an option to make it // a dry run if( window.replyLinkDryRun === "checkbox" ) { newOption( "reply-link-option-dry-run", "Don't actually edit?", true ); } // If the current section header text indicates an edit request, // offer to mark it as answered if( ourMetadata[1] && EDIT_REQ_REGEX.test( ourMetadata[1][1] ) ) { newOption( "reply-link-option-edit-req", "Mark edit request as answered?", false ); } // If the previous comment was indented by OUTDENT_THRESH, // offer to outdent if( ourMetadata[0].length >= OUTDENT_THRESH ) { newOption( "reply-link-option-outdent", "Outdent?", false ); } if( window.replyLinkAutoIndentation === "checkbox" ) { newOption( "reply-link-option-auto-indent", mw.msg( "rl-auto-indent" ), true ); } /* Commented out because I could never get it to work // Autofill with a recommendation if we're replying to a nom if( rplyToXfdNom ) { replyDialogField.value = "'''Comment'''"; // Highlight the "Comment" part so the user can change it var range = document.createRange(); range.selectNodeContents( replyDialogField ); //range.setStart( replyDialogField, 3 ); // start of "Comment" //range.setEnd( replyDialogField, 10 ); // end of "Comment" var sel = window.getSelection(); sel.removeAllRanges(); sel.addRange( range ); }*/ // Close handler window.onbeforeunload = function ( e ) { if( !replyWasSaved && document.getElementById( "reply-dialog-field" ) && document.getElementById( "reply-dialog-field" ).value ) { var txt = mw.msg( "rl-started-reply" ); e.returnValue = txt; return txt; } }; // Called by the "Reply" button, Ctrl-Enter in the text area, and // Enter/Ctrl-Enter in the summary field function startReply() { // Change UI to make it clear we're performing an operation document.getElementById( "reply-dialog-field" ).style["background-image"] = "url(" + window.replyLinkPendingImageUrl + ")"; document.querySelector( "#reply-link-buttons button" ).disabled = true; setStatus( mw.msg( "rl-loading" ) ); var parsoidUrl = PARSOID_ENDPOINT + encodeURIComponent( currentPageName ) + "/" + mw.config.get( "wgCurRevisionId" ), findSectionResultPromise = $.get( parsoidUrl ) .then( function ( parsoidDomString ) { return findSection( currentPageName, parsoidDomString, cmtLink ); },console.error ); var revObjPromise = findSectionResultPromise.then( function ( findSectionResult ) { console.log( "findSectionResult ", findSectionResult ); return getWikitext( findSectionResult.page ); },console.error ); $.when( findSectionResultPromise, revObjPromise ).then( function ( findSectionResult, revObj ) { // ourMetadata contains data in the format: // [indentation, header, sigIdx] doReply( ourMetadata[0], ourMetadata[1], ourMetadata[2], cmtAuthor, rplyToXfdNom, revObj, findSectionResult ); }, function (e) { setStatusError(new Error(e))} ); } // Event listener for the "Reply" button document.getElementById( "reply-dialog-button" ) .addEventListener( "click", startReply ); // Event listener for the text area document.getElementById( "reply-dialog-field" ) .addEventListener( "keydown", function ( e ) { if( e.ctrlKey && ( e.keyCode == 10 || e.keyCode == 13 ) ) { startReply(); } } ); // Event listener for the "Preview" button document.getElementById( "reply-link-preview-button" ) .addEventListener( "click", function () { var reply = document.getElementById( "reply-dialog-field" ).value.trim(); // Add a signature if one isn't already there if( !hasSig( reply ) ) { reply += " " + ( window.replyLinkSigPrefix ? window.replyLinkSigPrefix : "" ) + LITERAL_SIGNATURE; } var sanitizedCode = encodeURIComponent( reply ); $.post( "https:" + mw.config.get( "wgServer" ) + "/w/api.php?action=parse&format=json&title=" + currentPageName + "&text=" + sanitizedCode + "&pst=1", function ( res ) { if ( !res || !res.parse || !res.parse.text ) return console.log( "Preview failed" ); document.getElementById( "reply-link-preview" ).innerHTML = res.parse.text['*']; // Add target="_blank" to links to make them open in a new tab by default var links = document.querySelectorAll( "#reply-link-preview a" ); for( var i = 0, n = links.length; i < n; i++ ) { links[i].setAttribute( "target", "_blank" ); } } ); } ); if( window.replyLinkPreloadPing === "button" ) { document.getElementById( "reply-link-ping-button" ) .addEventListener( "click", function () { replyDialogField.value = window.replyLinkPreloadPingTpl .replace( "##", cmtAuthor ) + replyDialogField.value; } ); } // Event listener for the "Cancel" button document.getElementById( "reply-link-cancel-button" ) .addEventListener( "click", function () { newLink.textContent = linkLabel; panelEl.remove(); } ); // Event listeners for the custom edit summary field if( window.replyLinkCustomSummary ) { document.getElementById( "reply-link-summary" ) .addEventListener( "keydown", function ( e ) { if( e.keyCode == 10 || e.keyCode == 13 ) { startReply(); } } ); } if( window.replyLinkTestInstantReply ) { startReply(); } }.bind( this ) ); // Cancel default event handler evt.preventDefault(); return false; } } /** * Adds a "(reply)" link after the provided text node, giving it * the provided element id. anyIndentation is true if there's any * indentation (i.e. indentation string is not the empty string) */ function attachLinkAfterNode( node, preferredId, anyIndentation ) { // Choose a parent node - walk up tree until we're under a dd, li, // p, or div. This walk is a bit unsafe, but this function should // only get called in a place where the walk will succeed. var parent = node; do { parent = parent.parentNode; } while( !( /^(p|dd|li|div|td)$/.test( parent.tagName.toLowerCase() ) ) ); // Determine whether we're replying to an XfD nom var rplyToXfdNom = false; if( xfdType === "AfD" || xfdType === "MfD" ) { // If the comment is non-indented, we are replying to a nom rplyToXfdNom = !anyIndentation; } else if( xfdType === "TfD" || xfdType === "FfD" ) { // If the sibling before the previous sibling of this node // is a h4, then this is a nom rplyToXfdNom = parent.previousElementSibling && parent.previousElementSibling.previousElementSibling && parent.previousElementSibling.previousElementSibling.nodeType === 1 && parent.previousElementSibling.previousElementSibling.tagName.toLowerCase() === "h4"; } else if( xfdType === "CfD" ) { // If our grandparent is a dl and our grandparent's previous // sibling is a h4, then this is a nom rplyToXfdNom = parent.parentNode.tagName.toLowerCase() === "dl" && parent.parentNode.previousElementSibling.nodeType === 1 && parent.parentNode.previousElementSibling.tagName.toLowerCase() === "h4"; } // Choose link label: if we're replying to an XfD, customize it var linkLabel = mw.msg( "rl-reply-label" ) + ( rplyToXfdNom ? mw.msg( "rl-to-label" ) + xfdType : "" ); // Construct new link var newLinkWrapper = document.createElement( "span" ); newLinkWrapper.className = "reply-link-wrapper"; var newLink = document.createElement( "a" ); newLink.href = "#"; newLink.id = preferredId; newLink.dataset.originalLabel = linkLabel; newLink.appendChild( document.createTextNode( linkLabel ) ); newLink.addEventListener( "click", handleWrapperClick( linkLabel, parent, rplyToXfdNom ) ); newLinkWrapper.appendChild( document.createTextNode( " (" ) ); newLinkWrapper.appendChild( newLink ); newLinkWrapper.appendChild( document.createTextNode( ")" ) ); // Insert new link into DOM parent.insertBefore( newLinkWrapper, node.nextSibling ); } /** * Uses attachLinkAfterTextNode to add a reply link after every * timestamp on the page. */ function attachLinks () { var mainContent = findMainContentEl(); if( !mainContent ) { console.error( "No main content element found; exiting." ); return; } var contentEls = mainContent.children; // Find the index of the first header in contentEls var headerIndex = 0; for( headerIndex = 0; headerIndex < contentEls.length; headerIndex++ ) { if( contentEls[ headerIndex ].tagName.toLowerCase().startsWith( "h" ) ) break; } // If we didn't find any headers at all, that's a problem and we // should bail if( mainContent.querySelector( "div.hover-edit-section" ) ) { headerIndex = 0; } else if( headerIndex === contentEls.length ) { console.error( "Didn't find any headers - hit end of loop!" ); return; } // We also should include the first header if( headerIndex > 0 ) { headerIndex--; } // Each element is a 2-element list of [level, node] var parseStack = iterableToList( contentEls ).slice( headerIndex ); parseStack.reverse(); parseStack = parseStack.map( function ( el ) { return [ "", el ]; } ); // Main parse loop var node; var currIndentation; // A string of symbols, like ":*::" var newIndentSymbol; var stackEl; // current element from the parse stack var idNum = 0; // used to make id's for the links var linkId = ""; // will be the element id for this link while( parseStack.length ) { stackEl = parseStack.pop(); node = stackEl[1]; currIndentation = stackEl[0]; // Compatibility with "Comments in Local Time" var isLocalCommentsSpan = node.nodeType === 1 && "span" === node.tagName.toLowerCase() && node.className.includes( "localcomments" ); var isSmall = node.nodeType === 1 && ( node.tagName.toLowerCase() === "small" || ( node.tagName.toLowerCase() === "span" && node.style && node.style.getPropertyValue( "font-size" ) === "85%" ) ); // Small nodes are okay, unless they're delsort notices var isOkSmallNode = isSmall && !node.className.includes( "delsort-notice" ); if( ( node.nodeType === 3 ) || isOkSmallNode || isLocalCommentsSpan ) { // If the current node has a timestamp, attach a link to it // Also, no links after timestamps, because it's just like // having normal text afterwards, which is rejected (because // that means someone put a timestamp in the middle of a // paragraph) var hasLinkAfterwardsNotInBlockEl = node.nextElementSibling && ( node.nextElementSibling.tagName.toLowerCase() === "a" || ( node.nextElementSibling.tagName.match( /^(span|small)$/i ) && node.nextElementSibling.querySelector( "a" ) ) ); if( TIMESTAMP_REGEX.test( node.textContent ) && ( node.previousSibling || isSmall ) && !hasLinkAfterwardsNotInBlockEl ) { linkId = "reply-link-" + idNum; attachLinkAfterNode( node, linkId, !!currIndentation ); idNum++; // Update global metadata dictionary metadata[linkId] = currIndentation; } } else if( node.nodeType === 1 && /^(div|p|dl|dd|ul|li|span|ol|table|tbody|tr|td)$/.test( node.tagName.toLowerCase() ) ) { switch( node.tagName.toLowerCase() ) { case "dl": newIndentSymbol = ":"; break; case "ul": newIndentSymbol = "*"; break; case "ol": newIndentSymbol = "#"; break; case "div": if( node.className.includes( "xfd_relist" ) ) { continue; } break; default: newIndentSymbol = ""; break; } var childNodes = node.childNodes; for( let i = 0, numNodes = childNodes.length; i < numNodes; i++ ) { parseStack.push( [ currIndentation + newIndentSymbol, childNodes[i] ] ); } } } // This loop adds two entries in the metadata dictionary: // the header data, and the sigIdx values var sigIdxEls = iterableToList( mainContent.querySelectorAll( HEADER_SELECTOR + ",span.reply-link-wrapper a" ) ); var currSigIdx = 0, j, numSigIdxEls, currHeaderEl, currHeaderData; var headerIdx = 0; // index of the current header var headerLvl = 0; // level of the current header for( j = 0, numSigIdxEls = sigIdxEls.length; j < numSigIdxEls; j++ ) { var headerTagNameMatch = /^h(\d+)$/.exec( sigIdxEls[j].tagName.toLowerCase() ); if( headerTagNameMatch ) { currHeaderEl = sigIdxEls[j]; // Test to make sure we're not in the table of contents if( currHeaderEl.parentNode.className === "toctitle" ) { continue; } // Reset signature counter currSigIdx = 0; // Dig down one level for the header text because // MW buries the text in a span inside the header var headlineEl = null; if( currHeaderEl.childNodes[0].className && currHeaderEl.childNodes[0].className.includes( "mw-headline" ) ) { headlineEl = currHeaderEl.childNodes[0]; } else { for( var i = 0; i < currHeaderEl.childNodes.length; i++ ) { if( currHeaderEl.childNodes[i].className && currHeaderEl.childNodes[i].className.includes( "mw-headline" ) ) { headlineEl = currHeaderEl.childNodes[i]; break; } } } var headerName = null; if( headlineEl ) { headerName = headlineEl.textContent; } if( headerName === null ) { console.error( currHeaderEl ); throw "Couldn't parse a header element!"; } headerLvl = headerTagNameMatch[1]; currHeaderData = [ headerLvl, headerName, headerIdx ]; headerIdx++; } else { // Save all the metadata for this link currIndentation = metadata[ sigIdxEls[j].id ]; metadata[ sigIdxEls[j].id ] = [ currIndentation, currHeaderData ? currHeaderData.slice(0) : null, currSigIdx ]; currSigIdx++; } } //console.log(metadata); // Disable links inside hatnotes, archived discussions var badRegionsSelector = [ "div.archived", "div.resolved", "table" ].map( function ( s ) { return s + " .reply-link-wrapper" } ).join( "," ); var insideArchived = mainContent.querySelectorAll( badRegionsSelector ); for( var i = 0; i < insideArchived.length; i++ ) { insideArchived[i].parentNode.removeChild( insideArchived[i] ); } } function runTestMode() { // We never want to make actual edits window.replyLinkDryRun = "always"; // Simulate having a panel open $( "#mw-content-text" ) .append( $( "<div>" ) .append( $( "<textarea>" ).attr( "id", "reply-dialog-field" ).val( "hi" ) ) .append( $( "<div>" ).attr( "id", "reply-link-buttons" ) .append( $( "<button> " ) ) ) ); mw.util.addCSS( ".reply-link-wrapper { background-color: orange; }" ); // Fetch content, Parsoid DOM, etc var parsoidUrl = PARSOID_ENDPOINT + encodeURIComponent( currentPageName ); $.when( $.get( parsoidUrl ), api.loadMessages( INT_MSG_KEYS ) ).then( function ( parsoidDomString, _ ) { buildUserspcLinkRgx(); // Statistics variables var successes = 0, failures = 0; // Run one test on a wrapper link function runOneTestOn( wrapper ) { try { var cmtAuthorAndLink = getCommentAuthor( wrapper ), cmtAuthor = cmtAuthorAndLink.username, cmtLink = cmtAuthorAndLink.link; var ourMetadata = metadata[ wrapper.children[0].id ]; findSection( currentPageName, parsoidDomString, cmtLink ).then( function ( findSectionResult ) { var revObjPromise = getWikitext( findSectionResult.page, /* useCaching */ true ); $.when( findSectionResult, revObjPromise ).then( function ( findSectionResult, revObj ) { doReply( ourMetadata[0], ourMetadata[1], ourMetadata[2], cmtAuthor, false, revObj, findSectionResult ).done( function () { wrapper.style.background = "green"; successes++; } ).fail( function () { wrapper.style.background = "red"; failures++; } ); }, function ( e ) { wrapper.style.background = "red"; failures++; } ); } ); } catch ( e ) { console.error( e ); wrapper.style.background = "red"; failures++; } } var wrappers = Array.from( document.querySelectorAll( ".reply-link-wrapper" ) ); function runOneTest() { var wrapper = wrappers.shift(); if( wrapper ) { runOneTestOn( wrapper ); setTimeout( runOneTest, 750 ); } else { var results = successes + " successes, " + failures + " failures"; $( "#mw-content-text" ).prepend( results ).append( results ); } } //console.log = function() {}; setTimeout( runOneTest, 0 ); } ); } function onReady() { var lang_code = mw.config.get( "wgUserLanguage" ) // Replace default English interface by translation if available var interface_messages = $.extend( {}, i18n.en, i18n[ lang_code.split('-')[0] ], i18n[ lang_code ] ); 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Senate Bill 1457, which stalled twice for criticism by opponents of abortion, passed both chambers of the Republican-controlled Arizona Legislature last week in a {{w|party-line vote}}, amended twice along the way to alleviate concerns by two hesitant Republicans. The bill makes it a Class 6 felony, the least severe, to seek or perform an abortion "because of a genetic abnormality of the child", defined as "the presence or presumed presence of an abnormal gene expression in an unborn child", but not a "severe fetal abnormality" considered "incompatible with life." Intimidating someone to get an abortion and soliciting or accepting monies to finance an abortion for this purpose has been made a Class 3 felony. [[File:Rally for Reproductive Rights Chicago Illinois 5-23-19 0771 (47948365208).jpg|thumb|left|Pro-abortion rights Rally for Reproductive Rights in Chicago, Illinois on May 23, 2019. {{image|Charles Edward Miller}}]]<!-- THIS NEEDS CHECKING THE ARCHIVES --> The bill also allows the unborn child's father or, in case the mother is under 18, a maternal grandparent to sue, as well as including the applicability of state law to "an unborn child at every stage of development", which Senator {{w|Kirsten Engel}} and Representative {{w|Melody Hernandez (politician)|Melody Hernandez}} wrote in a submitted {{w|Dissenting opinion|minority report}} "would open up the potential for prosecutors to charge persons including the pregnant individual whose conduct results in a woman having a miscarriage with murder, manslaughter or child endangerment." Other provisions of the bill include a prohibition on the distribution "via courier, delivery or mail service" of abortion-inducing drugs, a ban on any public educational institution from performing or aiding non-life saving abortion, a ban on the use of public or tax monies paid by the state or students for university research involving foetal remains or {{w|somatic cell nuclear transfer}}, or any state money towards organisations providing abortion care, and requiring all foetal remains to be buried or cremated. {{w|KYMA-DT}} reported Ducey is an anti-abortion rights governor who ran on the Republican ballot and has never vetoed anti-abortion legislation. In a statement, Ducey said, "[t]here's immeasurable value in every single life — regardless of genetic makeup [...] We will continue to prioritize protecting life in our preborn children, and this legislation goes a long way in protecting real human lives." The news release, originally published on his website also read, "[w]ith this legislation, Arizona remains among the top pro-life states in the nation." Senator {{w|Nancy Barto}} said, according to the release "[w]e need to protect our most vulnerable, especially those with treatable genetic conditions [...] They are loved, integral members of our community that make Arizona whole". Cathi Herrod, president of {{w|Center for Arizona Policy}} said in her own news release, according to the [[Associated Press]] "[t]oday, Arizonans win." Representative {{w|Diego Espinoza}} wrote in a [[twitter|tweet]], "I'm disappointed to see Arizona moving in this direction, ignoring the needs and desires of doctors, women, and families for an extreme political agenda." Representative and {{w|Arizona House of Representatives|House}} Democratic Leader {{w|Reginald Bolding}} wrote in a statement "it's disturbing and wrong that the legislature is not focusing on policies to help [women], and instead is stripping away the fundamental freedom to choose if, when, and how to start or grow a family." In a letter shared to a [[Facebook]] post, the union United Campus Workers at {{w|Arizona State University}} urged last Saturday to the {{w|Arizona Board of Regents}}, university president {{w|Michael M. Crow}} and [[University of Arizona]] president {{w|Robert D. Robbins}} to "immediately speak out against SB 1457", calling it "a blatant attack on reproductive freedom". {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source |url = https://www.azleg.gov/legtext/55leg/1r/bills/sb1457h.pdf |title = SENATE BILL 1457 |author = |pub = Arizona Senate |date = April 27, 2021 (date of access) }} *{{source |url = https://www.azleg.gov/ccminrpt/55LEG/1R/s.1457%20MINORITY%20REPORT.pdf |title = Minority Report |author = Kirsten Engel, Melody Hernandez |pub = Conference Committee to SB1457 |date = April 27, 2021 (date of access) }} *{{source |url = https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/united-campus-workers-challenge-arizonas-repressive-abortion-bill/ |title = United Campus Workers challenge Arizona’s repressive abortion bill |author = Josh Bacopulos |pub = People's World |date = April 27, 2021 }} *{{source |url = https://apnews.com/article/legislature-arizona-down-syndrome-legislation-abortion-ef26288e315ec1d0bc698c46e1bc103b |title = Arizona governor signs abortion ban for genetic issues |author = Bob Christie |pub = The Associated Press |date = April 27, 2021 }} *{{source |url = https://kyma.com/news/2021/04/27/ducey-signs-sweeping-anti-abortion-legislation/ |title = Ducey signs sweeping anti-abortion legislation |author = Lisa Sturgis |pub = KYMA-DT |date = April 27, 2021 }} *{{source |url = https://azgovernor.gov/governor/news/2021/04/governor-ducey-signs-legislation-protect-preborn-children |title = Governor Ducey Signs Legislation To Protect Preborn Children |author = |pub = Office of the Governor Doug Ducey |date = April 27, 2021 }} *{{source |url = https://www.azcourts.gov/Portals/34/2020Sentencing.pdf?ver=2020-07-29-091334-563 |title = CRIMINAL CODE SENTENCING PROVISIONS |author = |pub = Supreme Court of Arizona |date = August 25, 2020 }} == External links == *{{source |url = https://twitter.com/espinozadiego19/status/1387176115005911043?s=20 |title = Diego Espinoza on Twitter |author = Diego Espinoza |pub = Twitter |date = April 27, 2021 }} *{{source |url = https://www.facebook.com/UCWArizona/photos/pcb.164420798899840/164420415566545 |title = UCW Arizona on Facebook |author = United Campus Workers of Arizona- UCW AZ Local 7065 |pub = Facebook |date = April 24, 2021 }} [[Category:Abortion]] [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Health]] [[Category:Human rights]] [[Category:Women's rights]] [[Category:Arizona]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:North America]] [[Category:JJLiu112 (Wikinewsie)]] {{Publish}} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} [[pt:Arizona proíbe aborto por anomalias genéticas]] qie9gcft0bvmefo9d8bqs6jvly2xqsm 3 2939385 5007916 4658790 2026-04-14T10:50:21Z Koavf 5879 Changed redirect target from [[User talk:DenizD28]] to [[User talk:ANotherpartofme2805]] 5007916 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[User talk:ANotherpartofme2805]] c8xz2djbclft39qysw2wft8borhnl4s 4 2964085 5007919 4725109 2026-04-14T10:56:38Z Koavf 5879 /* Standings */ 5007919 wikitext text/x-wiki {{xambox|text=The contest has ended. Thank you for participating.}} <span style="font-size:110%">'''''Welcome''''' to the ''Wikinews'' 2023 Writing Competition.</span> Anyone, ''[[Wikinews:Wikinews needs you!|including you]]'', can enter this competition. ''<span style="font-size:90%">A project run by a Wikinewsie.</span>'' ==Entrants== Please list yourself here if you wish to partake. *—[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 12:28, 26 January 2023 (UTC) *--[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 15:06, 26 January 2023 (UTC) *—-'''[[User:RockerballAustralia|Rockerball]]'''''[[User talk:RockerballAustralia|Australia]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/RockerballAustralia|contribs]]</small> 06:07, 28 January 2023 (UTC) *---[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 07:12, 28 January 2023 (UTC) *--[[User:A Chinese ID|A Chinese ID]] ([[User talk:A Chinese ID|talk]]) 12:44, 28 January 2023 (UTC) *—[[User:Johnson524|Johnson524]] ([[User talk:Johnson524|talk]]) 04:18, 30 January 2023 (UTC) *--[[User:DRC-B5|DRC-B5]] ([[User talk:DRC-B5|talk]]) 12:45, 30 January 2023 (UTC) *--[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 20:22, 31 January 2023 (UTC) *--[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:35, 2 February 2023 (UTC) *--[[User:Kitabc12345|Kitabc12345]] ([[User talk:Kitabc12345|talk]]) 11:21, 18 February 2023 (UTC) *--[[User:nofacehellas|nofacehellas]] ([[User talk:nofacehellas|talk]]) 05:39, 25 February 2023 (UTC) ==Standings== The contest ended on May 1. {| class="wikitable sortable" |+Standings in the 2023 writing contest |- !scope="col"| Rank !scope="col"| User !scope="col"| Points !scope="col"| Articles |- | 0 |scope="row"| Koavf | 0 || 0 |- | 2 |scope="row"| [[:Category:Heavy Water (WWC 2023)|Heavy Water]] | 97 || 6 |- | 5 |scope="row"| [[:Category:RockerballAustralia (WWC 2023)|RockerballAustralia]] || 16 || 2 |- | 1 |scope="row"| [[:Category:JJLiu112 (WWC 2023)|JJLiu112]] | 102 || 3 |- | 8 |scope="row"| [[:Category:A Chinese ID (WWC 2023)|A Chinese ID]] | 1 || 1 |- | 6 |scope="row"| [[:Category:Johnson524 (WWC 2023)|Johnson524]] | 8 || 2 |- | 4 |scope="row"| [[:Category:DRC-B5 (WWC 2023)|DRC-B5]] | 46 || 12 |- | 3 |scope="row"| [[:Category:SVTCobra (WWC 2023)|SVTCobra]] | 79 || 12 |- | 7 |scope="row"| Gryllida | 3 || 0 |- | # |scope="row"| Kitabc12345 | 0 || 0 |- | # |scope="row"| nofacehellas | 0 || 0 |- | # |scope="row"| | # || # |} ==Competition rules== === Eligibility === Anyone, including you, can write articles on ''Wikinews''. 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Category:Live in Canada *{{source|url=|title=|author=|pub=|date=}} · {{develop}} · {{archived}} · {{QuoteRight||source=}} · {{date|January 23, 2023}} · *{{wikinews|title=|date=}} Internal link [[Page title]] [[Page title|Link label]] Page title Link label External link [http://www.example.org Link label] [http://www.example.org] http://www.example.org Link label [1] http://www.example.org 2jkv029q5b6c3dq48vtn82sr1bbe08m 2 2969672 5007629 4970488 2026-04-13T15:11:55Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* list five articles from category */ new section 5007629 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Clickable button|New section|url=http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title={{FULLPAGENAMEE}}&action=edit&section=new|class=mw-ui-progressive}} == Working pages == * [[User:Michael.C.Wright/wikibreak]] * [[User:Michael.C.Wright/TranslationAnalysis|Michael.C.Wright/TranslationAnalysis]] * [[User:Michael.C.Wright/sandbox/timeline|Michael.C.Wright/sandbox/timeline]] * [[User:Michael.C.Wright/sandbox/pre-review|Michael.C.Wright/sandbox/pre-review]] * [[User:Michael.C.Wright/sandbox/quotation|Michael.C.Wright/sandbox/quotation]] * [[User:Michael.C.Wright/review-checklist|User:Michael.C.Wright/review-checklist]] * [[User:Michael.C.Wright/sandbox/The problem]] * [[User:Michael.C.Wright/Review process study|Review process study]] [[:Special:PrefixIndex/User:Michael.C.Wright/]] == Test pre-review == <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{User:Michael.C.Wright/sandbox/pre-review |evaluated-url= |status= |updated=15:19, 22 June 2024 (UTC) |copyright= |earwig-permalink= |newsworthy= |verifiable= |npov= |style= |author-notes=test |reviewer-notes= |updated-notes=test updated notes }}</syntaxhighlight> == Test Verify == {{develop|nocat=1}} Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. 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Vestibulum vitae elit non velit accumsan gravida. == test Module:DetectTemplates == <nowiki>{{#switch: {{#invoke:DetectDraft|detectTemplates}} | true = <span style="color:green;">This page is under development or review.</span> | false = <span style="color:red;">This page is not under development or review.</span> | #default = <span style="color:gray;">Unable to determine page status.</span> }}</nowiki> == test module and template:ConvertTime == Not substituted: <nowiki>{{ConvertTime|convert|time=1:45 p.m.|timezone=CDT}}</nowiki> substituted: using <nowiki>{{subst:#invoke:ConvertTime|convert|time=1:45 p.m.|timezone=CDT}}</nowiki> 1:45 p.m. CDT (1845 UTC) Use 'local time' if not specified: 1:45 p.m. local time (0945 UTC) == test template:latest news == <nowiki>{{Latest news/sandbox2}}</nowiki> Namespace: {{NAMESPACE}} == test template:date == {{Date/sandbox|February 28, 2025}} == new userbox == {{userbox | id = [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025-mini.png|40px]] | info = ''This user was the original author of the [[Wikinews:2025 Boost publication rate/Monthly top article|top article]] for January, 2025'' | border-s = 1 }} {{clear}} == test wikibreak == <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{User:Michael.C.Wright/wikibreak |imagesize=100px |type=normal |leave=April 2, 2025 |back=May 5, 2025 |message=I will be less available on Wikinews during this time. 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[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Michael.C.Wright/MarkupManager?title=User:Michael.C.Wright/sandbox&do=remove] == Testing template:highlight == This is a generic highlight (no type specified) for general emphasis. This sentence type=expand Here's a type=preserve|text=type=preserve: well-written phrase we might want to keep unchanged. This phrase contains type=bias|text=type=bias: loaded language that could raise neutrality concerns. This statement type=attribution|text=type=attribution: claim needs citation in prose lacks in-text sourcing. This is a type=preserve|text=preserve with note|note=Quoted directly from source, preserve wording — it demonstrates a custom tooltip using `note=`. 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Yet, it is now standard convention here to use the AM/PM format. I was, in fact, [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Explosions_kill_four_in_Laurel%2C_Nebraska&diff=prev&oldid=4686418&diffmode=source corrected for using the a.m./p.m. format as I had read in WN:TIME]. I figure this was something that we strayed from policy on in recent years. So, should WN:TIME be amended to reflect the current conventions? [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 14:42, 9 April 2023 (UTC) ===Comments=== {{tl|flag}} Flagging as it's been a month with no comments or votes. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 21:34, 10 May 2023 (UTC) ===Votes=== *{{support}} --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:32, 5 July 2023 (UTC) *{{support}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 19:37, 5 July 2023 (UTC) *{{support}} — [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 14:38, 17 July 2023 (UTC) *{{support}} —[[User:Chaetodipus|chaetodipus]] ([[User talk:chaetodipus|talk]] &middot; [[Special:Contributions/Chaetodipus|contribs]]) 07:05, 20 August 2023 (UTC) *{{support}} [[User:Pecopteris|Pecopteris]] ([[User talk:Pecopteris|talk]]) 23:14, 28 August 2023 (UTC) *{{oppose}}: On consideration, personally I would prefer we maintain the a.m./p.m. format &mdash; I proposed this not because I personally supported it, but to seek consensus on whether the guideline enumerated in WN:TIME should remain, as it has appeared to me current convention is against that guideline. WN:TIME, [[Special:Diff/11320|since January 2005]] (apparently its entire existence), has required a.m./p.m. Maintaining that would keep articles in the deep archives where users ''did'' follow the style guide in compliance with it. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 19:11, 20 October 2023 (UTC) *{{comment}} I could be wrong, but I think "a.m./p.m." is likely used in that variant of English (like US, CAN) which uses periods to separate letters in an abbreviation. (Even though "a.m."/"p.m." are themselves are acronyms.) I have never liked "a.m./p.m." and always liked "AM/PM", for my article will not have unnecessary periods, and every time Pi zero would review my articles, I never liked when "AM/PM" was moved to "a.m./p.m." as it went against the style of the whole article. So, I would say, keep both, so the flow of the article looks consistent. (I'm not logged in yet, but even if I was, I don't know if I should put support/oppose.)<br>[[Special:Contributions/2401:4900:1F29:679A:5DF8:3314:62E:A4D0|2401:4900:1F29:679A:5DF8:3314:62E:A4D0]] ([[User talk:2401:4900:1F29:679A:5DF8:3314:62E:A4D0|talk]]) 05:04, 21 October 2023 (UTC) *{{question}} Is there a reason why it wouldn't work if both styles are allowed, so long as the article is self-consistent? I know that several other wikis tend to be somewhat permissive when it comes to the choices made ''for an individual article'', so long as the article's application of the style choices are consistent. — [[User:Red-tailed hawk|<span style="color: #660000">Red-tailed&nbsp;hawk</span>]]&nbsp;_{[[User talk:Red-tailed hawk|<span style="color: #660000">(nest)</span>]]} 05:23, 28 November 2023 (UTC) *:I can't see why that wouldn't work (as Ac said); it's the treatment given to certain other style choices &mdash; notably, national variety of English. (I personally use AM/PM outside en.wn.) [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 06:07, 28 November 2023 (UTC) *:I just think of how I would expect most news outlets to work and they would have a single in-house style. You wouldn't expect to see ''The New York Times'' have varying ways of writing times across different articles wily-nily. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 06:38, 28 November 2023 (UTC) == Wikinews brand new logo == Hi, I wish propose a new logo for Wikinews, more modern, more respecting the graphical charter of WM. Here's the images : [[File:Wikinews-logo proposal icon.svg|thumb|Icon]] [[File:Wikinews-logo proposal.svg|thumb|Logo]] [[File:Wikinews-logo proposal wordmark.svg|thumb|Wordmark]]. I removed the continents to leave only the meridians and parallels. Regards, [[User:Manjiro5|Manjiro5]] ([[User talk:Manjiro5|talk]]) 14:17, 25 August 2023 (UTC) :I don't know what the "graphical charter" of Wikimedia is, but I like the current logo better. It's old, but it doesn't look dated to me, and I like having the continents there. Also, I don't know if changing the logo would take consensus from all ''Wikinews'' editions (and the WMF might wish to meddle). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 16:19, 25 August 2023 (UTC) ::@[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] Hi, thank you for your answer ;-) I have already made the proposal here and on wnfr. And I will offer other languages ​​on Wikinews later. I could perhaps make a Meta page for this proposal, so that all Wikinews journalists and readers of all languages ​​can give their opinion, without me having to use a translate tool. Have a nice day. Regards, [[User:Manjiro5|Manjiro5]] ([[User talk:Manjiro5|talk]]) 08:03, 2 September 2023 (UTC) :My two cents: I like your proposed new logo more than the current logo. I would support such a change were it ever to come to a vote. [[User:Pecopteris|Pecopteris]] ([[User talk:Pecopteris|talk]]) 23:16, 28 August 2023 (UTC) ::@[[User:Pecopteris|Pecopteris]] Hi, thank you very much for your answer ^^ I will potentially create a Meta-wiki page where it will be possible to vote for a brand new logo. Have a good day ;-) Regards, [[User:Manjiro5|Manjiro5]] ([[User talk:Manjiro5|talk]]) 09:40, 2 September 2023 (UTC) I really don't like the trend of flattening the logo, which many brands seem to do. I like this logo more and I feel this new proposed logo removes the rich character the current logo has and I don't even see why it would be necessary.<br>[[Special:Contributions/2401:4900:1F29:679A:5DF8:3314:62E:A4D0|2401:4900:1F29:679A:5DF8:3314:62E:A4D0]] ([[User talk:2401:4900:1F29:679A:5DF8:3314:62E:A4D0|talk]]) 05:07, 21 October 2023 (UTC) ::: Hello, if you would like to give your opinion on my proposal, please go to the following page: [[meta:Requests for comment/Change the logo of the Wikinews project]] Cordially, [[User:Manjiro5|Manjiro5]] ([[User talk:Manjiro5|talk]]) 20:21, 22 October 2023 (UTC) {{ping|Manjiro5}} It seems that the emerging consensus is that your proposed logo alternative lacks a bit of sophistication, for lack of better wording. The current logo has more colour, more details, and universally recognisable elements in it. Your proposal reminds of what computer program icons looked like 30 years ago when graphics cards only supported 8-bit colours, and I think with modern hardware and software, we can (and should) do better than that. [[User:ArticCynda|ArticCynda]] ([[User talk:ArticCynda|talk]]) 20:46, 28 November 2023 (UTC) cnu3ffhxd3d7avdytd7x4gxp74bkgxz 4 2989231 5007756 4770184 2026-04-13T18:39:55Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 close flag in archive 5007756 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talk archive}} == Files uploaded with NC or ND == {{tl|flag}} Hello everyone! I think Wikinews need to discuss the use of files licensed NC (non-commercial) or ND (no derivates). I have mentioned it on [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance#File_clean_up_to_do_list]] but there are also a discussion on [[User talk:MGA73]] and [[User talk:SVTCobra]] and [[File talk:Explosion near Palais des Nations 0011.jpeg]]. According to [[:wmf:Resolution:Licensing_policy]] free files are those with a "Free Content License". According to the definition at https://freedomdefined.org/Definition/1.0 it means it can be "copied and/or modified, by anyone, for any purpose". So non-commercial and no-derivates are not defined as a free work. Same is written at [[Wikinews:Fair_use#Local_uploads_vs._Wikimedia_Commons]] "Free content includes images in the public domain, under Creative Commons licenses (except for the "non-commercial" or "no derivatives" variants), ...". All non-free works are forbidden on Wikimedia projects including Wikinews unless there is an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) that allows it (but "Such EDPs must be minimal."). Wikinews have an EDP and according to [[Wikinews:Fair use]] "Wikinews is more restrictive about fair use than Wikipedia." and "The use of non-free media outside the main article namespace does not constitute fair use, and is not permitted." and "Any use not covered by this whitelist is not allowed.". So non-free files is only allowed under very strict rules, as I see it that means that: # If they are not in use they should be deleted. # Usually no more than 1 non-free file should be allowed in an article. Some articles have many non-free files. Example: * [[Fifteen medals awarded on London Paralympics fourth night of track and field]] has 42 photos (I have not checked but I think most are non-free). * [[Photo Essay: Cherry Blossoms Bloom in DC]] has 10 non-free photos. Further more there is no breaking news to this story. I hope we could hava discussion to clarify how to understand the policies so it is clear what should happen NC/ND-files. --[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 20:31, 11 January 2024 (UTC) :It is certainly true that Wikinews has been very lax about enforcing the use of {{tl|non-free use rationale}} over the years, and it needs to be addressed. I think MGA73 has elsewhere mentioned the quote ''Wikinews is more restrictive about fair use than Wikipedia'', which was added in 2005 in [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Fair_use&diff=prev&oldid=60516 this edit] and seemingly never questioned or debated. I would assert this to be patently false, even if it is stated on one of our policy pages (our EDP page) and I think the rest of the EDP bears that out. While I am not a copyright lawyer (or any kind of lawyer), I am quite certain that news reporting is afforded one of the broadest windows of fair-use under US law which I believe is what we operate under. It's right up there with educational use, which I don't know if Wikipedia qualifies for.<br>It is extremely unfortunate that we have so many NC and ND image files. They should have been challenged at the time of upload, especially as in the case of MGA73's two examples. The image files were, in both cases, uploaded by the authors of the articles. The articles were CC-BY, so why did they upload under a different license? We may never know. Clearly, they wanted them to be part of the article. That said, I do not quite understand where the idea of just one fair-use image per article came from.<br>Clearly, people were not paying attention to [[WN:FU#Local uploads vs. Wikimedia Commons|this section]] of our EDP, and this is a problem. -- [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 23:05, 11 January 2024 (UTC) ::public service media, although this conflicts with the core idea of free copyright, there is no conflict with public media services. At that time, everyone will disseminate news for non-profit purposes. I think this should be separated from the characteristics of Wikinews and keep them. There is no problem with non-commercial copyright. In fact, there is no problem with different authorisations for pictures and articles. Wikipedia says that only one image can be used for reasonable use, which is also unreasonable for Wikinews. Because of the operation of Wikipedia, this is called the rational use of a picture, but Wikinews is different from a news report with multiple picture themes. News reporting agencies often do not use only one non-only version. The right picture is used as a fair use. when all news media and TV stations report one news story, To report a news story, you need to use multiple non-free copyrighted content as a fair use. The relevant general rule of Wikipedia is completely painless because news reports have special needs to add more than one picture. [[User:Kitabc12345|Kitabc12345]] ([[User talk:Kitabc12345|talk]]) 16:38, 12 January 2024 (UTC) ::: [[User:Kitabc12345|Kitabc12345]] Editors on Wikinews can add as many free images as they think is relevant in an article. But they can only add non-free images if they are needed. And they have to provice a good reason for every single non-free photo. Also the non-free images should be low resolution. The reason is not the law but the resolution made by the WMF that all wikiprojetcts should only host and use free information. So the law allow non-commercial photos but WMF does not unless they qualify as fair use. --[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 10:20, 17 January 2024 (UTC) ::::I can re-licence images taken by myself. There were rules at the 2012 London and 2016 Rio Paralympics about images taken by journalists as opposed to photographers. I will have a photographer with me in Paris though. [[User:Hawkeye7|Hawkeye7]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye7|talk]]) 08:52, 26 January 2024 (UTC) :::::Hi Hawkeye, you may be the closest we have to an active user who may know something about the stipulations by the [[w:International Paralympic Committee|IPC]] for the paralympics (looks like same applied to the 2014 winter games, too. What do you recall about when the press passes were issued? IPC must have known that Wikinews would be hosting and publishing the images, right?<br>{{re|MGA73}}, do you think we need an exemption to our exemption doctrine, specifically dealing with these particular IPC photosets? From what I can gather, the Wikinews presence at these games directly involved help (if not funding) directly from the WMF to make this happen. It would seem a terrible shame to flush all these images, just because some resolution got rubber-stamped saying ''"all media needs to be totally free"'' while they forgot this whole deal. [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 09:53, 26 January 2024 (UTC) ::::::{{re|SVTCobra}} Yes, it could be a good idea to have an exception that if there are some restriction forced upon the photographers by IPC for example then the photo can be uploaded as NC. But I wonder how other news media will handle that because most other news media are commercial? Per [[:c:Commons:Copyright_rules_by_subject_matter#MUSEUM]] we could ignore the NC requirement but it would probably damage the possibility for future co-work. --[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 15:52, 26 January 2024 (UTC) :::::::I am obviously not an expert, but I think Hawkeye said something about different conditions for "journalists" vs "photographers" in the case of IPC. [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 18:41, 28 January 2024 (UTC) == Wikinews.org updates? == https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews#Multilingual_portal Regarding the current state of the portal website, Chinese is not included among the languages listed. Instead, there are many inactive languages that have been dormant for years. It should be considered to include Chinese among the major languages. It is inconvenient to search for "wikinews" in English and then open the Chinese Wikinews. As one of the few actively maintained languages, it is quite unreasonable to require additional steps to access the Chinese version. According to the total number of active users, the Chinese Wikinews is the fifth largest Wikinews project. I wonder if there are any design requests or consultations for other languages. [[User:Kitabc12345|Kitabc12345]] ([[User talk:Kitabc12345|talk]]) 07:01, 13 January 2024 (UTC) :https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikinews_screenshot.png#mw-jump-to-license :Because I found that this design actually exists, but I don’t know why it is not in this state now. This design seems to be very good-looking. [[User:Kitabc12345|Kitabc12345]] ([[User talk:Kitabc12345|talk]]) 07:04, 13 January 2024 (UTC) ::I get your point, but I don't think the page is managed from en.wikinews.org ... if fact I don't know who created and/or maintains it. Per the meta link you provided, it has something to do with Phabricator and Gerrit, neither of which I know much about. [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 11:59, 13 January 2024 (UTC) ::Actually, there's a link on the meta page to request a new language. 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As a steward dealing with anti-abuse I've noticed that this wiki gets a lot of vandalism, spam etc., but has little admin support to deal with it. Out of fifteen administrators on this wiki, only four of them have edited in the last month, and out of those four, only two have taken admin actions this month, and only one in the last week. Looking in [[:Category:Speedy deletion]], there are 320 (!) pages nominated for speedy deletion, and many vandalism/spam pages which have been sitting undeleted for months. With the current situation here, having global sysops being able to help would be a benefit. We have many active global sysops in multiple different time zones who are active and able to quickly act when needed. Keep in mind that global sysops are only allowed to use their tools for anti-vandalism/anti-spam purposes; other actions are outside of global sysops' scope, and global sysops do not interfere with the content side or other unrelated areas of the project. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 16:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC) :Yes please. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:53, 24 May 2024 (UTC) * {{support}} I often work with EPIC and have found they respond quickly and effectively to cross-wiki abuse. Their help (and other's) for local vandals would be greatly appreciated. Speaking of vandalism, have you see your user page here @[[User:EPIC|EPIC]]? ツ —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 17:45, 24 May 2024 (UTC) *:I have actually not, but I'm surprised it's been up for over a month now. Well, you see my point here. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 18:28, 24 May 2024 (UTC) *{{support}} 100%! I am SO EXHAUSTED dealing with vandalism... it drags this project down! Silly question, though: Global sysops will know/learn/understand what constitutes '''vandalism''' here, right? ...not just someone who is off to a rocky start on what may be a good news article.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:39, 24 May 2024 (UTC) *:It's a reasonable question actually, but yes - it shouldn't be a problem for global sysops to tell what is obvious vandalism and what is just a new user unfamiliar with local practices, especially since this is an English wiki and language barriers aren't as much of an issue here, unlike with other GS wikis. And like mentioned, global sysops should not be using their tools to get around the local procedures for becoming a local administrator, but should be following what is allowed within GS scope. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 21:22, 24 May 2024 (UTC) *: I generally agree that global sysops can be trusted, but please note that not all global sysops have experiences at Wikinews, and not all languages have their own Wikinews edition. I would like to welcome the global sysops, but I also believe that borderline cases should be handled by our local admins/reviewers or a global sysop who has sufficient experience in any version of Wikinews. [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|talk]]) 01:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC) *::+1 to this one, I have no problems trusting global sysops to clean up vandalism and spam, but like mentioned, other maintenance work outside of that scope, and, like you mentioned, borderline cases, should be left to local administrators. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 03:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC) * {{support}} but can you clarify the automatic criteria to opt in the global sysops? Where is the documentation? [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|talk]]) 23:53, 24 May 2024 (UTC) *:Yes, I absolutely can; as per [[m:Global sysops#Scope]], if the wiki has fewer than ten admins '''or''' fewer than three admins having taken an admin action in the past two months, it will be eligible to become a GS wiki. Of course there can be exceptions to this, such as if the wiki has previously voted to opt out global sysops, in which case an opt-in discussion will be required. This is not the case for enwikinews (it was automatically opted out when the GS wiki set was created), but I opened the discussion here anyway to see the community's opinion. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 00:54, 25 May 2024 (UTC) *:: I think I have read that documentation before, but I didn't notice that it means the automatic criteria to opt in the global sysops. Thank you for the information. [[User:MathXplore|MathXplore]] ([[User talk:MathXplore|talk]]) 01:26, 25 May 2024 (UTC) * Support pretty strongly. This wiki has an odd history of rejecting similar (past) help; nice to see that isn't the case now. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 11:11, 25 May 2024 (UTC) * '''Oppose''' because most global sysops have very little experience of this wiki. I don't think many of them will understand the subtle difference between a newbie article and real vandalism. I admit I've been absent for a few months but I've had to decline multiple speedy deletion requests, which I don't think a global sysop would have recognised. I don't doubt their abilities elsewhere (particularly the very small wikis) but out of 27 global sysops... :::sixteen haven't edited here in more than a year including one that has never edited here. :::seventeen have fewer than 100 edits on this wiki (14 with fewer than 50 edits and 1 with zero edits). :::the majority of edits by the others are due to global renaming (done elsewhere). :::We should not be trusting these administrative tools to users who would not yet qualify as local administrators. I can see only one user (DannyS712) who has both a large number of edits here and recent editing experience. Since we can't pick and choose amongst them, we should not accept global sysops. :The solution to the problems of vandalism lies partly with having more local administrators. I'd suggest inviting some of the more active recent contributors above to put forward their names for the admin hat. ['''[[:User:Cromium|₂₄Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 19:12, 28 May 2024 (UTC) ::I'd probably have opposed global sysops as well had the admin/functionary situation been better - but the problem on this wiki has mostly been that local administrators have not been able to act in a timely manner when needed and traces of vandalism have been undeleted for months, especially now that there is an LTA (ACV) who has been taking advantage of that and created vandalism here for a few months now (a lot of which is still not deleted). I've seen multiple users request steward action for this reason - mainly global blocks/locks, but now more recently also CU requests and SRP requests for removal (as bureaucrats/CUs had not been editing here before I emailed the crats recently to forward some requests we have gotten). I do agree that this wiki has a slightly different profile than wikis where GSes/stewards mainly act, but should there be a consensus here, I would suggest making it clear in [[Wikinews:Global rights usage]] what global sysops/stewards can and cannot be doing here. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 19:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC) :::I agree that vandalism should have been dealt with much earlier but it is nothing new here or on many wikis. I was a steward (until ill health pushed me to resign in 2023) and saw plenty of LTAs targeting smaller wikis over several years. No amount of admin actions will prevent a determined vandal. Long before I became active here, I was very active on English Wikipedia, where the presence of hundreds of active administrators has not solved vandalism in the 20+ years since it became a phenomenon. As I said above, part of the solution is to recruit local administrators but a major part of the solution lies in removing the one thing that drives vandals. Many of them do it because they think their vandalism will be visible to the general public and because it will annoy some editors. The fact that many wikis allow anonymous IPs to edit mainspace pages makes the vandals bolder. The fact that user pages are soft targets is what helps vandals. We can play whack-a-mole all day but it won't stop them. We can block huge swathes of IPs but it won't stop most vandals because they can swap IPs. Part of the solution is for us to implement a Draft namespace (like the ENWP one) for all new articles and to prevent anonymous IPs and new accounts from editing mainspace pages. That would eliminate the motivation to vandalise pages they think the public will see. Another part of the solution is to prevent user pages from being edited or moved by anonymous or new accounts. A final piece of the solution is to improve tools like the abuse filter (which is responsible for preventing numerous bad edits and blocking many potential vandals). Allowing the global sysops to act against vandals will not prevent the vandalism. The other issue of CU is nothing new either. Myself and Acagastya stood for CU in 2021 precisely because stewards were slow to act on our requests (and as a steward I couldn't use the tool here). I do understand the frustration of not having someone act on a request quickly but if you look at the history of [[WN:RFCU]], there have been two requests in April and May this year. One request was retracted by the requesting user and the other was acted on after 12 days. Before that there were no requests locally for almost three years. I honestly cannot see how this is being construed as a track record of local CU requests not being acted on. On the contrary, the two of us have performed almost 500 CU checks in the 2+ years between being appointed and October 2023. Yes, we've both been less active for a few months but I don't feel it's fair to characterise us as being completely inactive. ['''[[:User:Cromium|₂₄Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 21:12, 28 May 2024 (UTC) ::::I find your and {{re|Heavy Water}}'s stance rather frustrating, and I've had this issue with Agastya in the past as well. I've been around for a while and I can't recall of a time where I thought that this wiki was well-managed in terms of routine housekeeping (regarding "The solution to the problems of vandalism lies partly with having more local administrators" in fact I tried to be admin unsuccessfully and was opposed because I did not have the reviewing experience and whatnot even though my sole purpose of applying was because I was tired of seeing the spam). "I think the GSes or stewards would need to learn so much about this project and how it works that they'd practically have the experience to become admins locally" - sorry I don't agree with that. You say things like "play whack-a-mole" but my experience (at least on my wiki) is that global sysops do a very good job of removing nonsense. "because stewards were slow to act on our requests" is unfortunate though if true. ::::Instead of being so dismissive, how about write a short guide on how global sysops are to operate on this wiki? They tend to be conservative anyway. GS making a mistake? Just tell them; they tend to be pretty good at learning from it. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 12:27, 30 May 2024 (UTC) *{{oppose}}: Cromium makes a very convincing argument here, and I trust their expertise. I just have a few things to add. I think the GSes or stewards would need to learn so much about this project and how it works that they'd practically have the experience to become admins locally. The statistic EPIC uses (current at that time) was from around the end, and therefore culmination, of an approximately two-month stretch with an ''unusually'' low rate of admin speedy deletions &mdash; particularly early on, which created such a backlog of speedy deletions that it would take a significantly above-average amount of effort to clear it, and so admins ended up just containing its growth (Cromium has since made that effort and cleared most of the backlog). And, I don't think removing the vandalism we get here is as urgent as it is for, say, a lot of the vandalism at en.wp, because the published content of the project is by default protected by the combined effects of FlaggedRevisions and the [[WN:ARCHIVE|archive policy]] &mdash; published, unarchived articles are supposed to be protected upon publication so they can only be moved by admins and edited by autoconfirmed users, with any edits still subject to review by a [[WN:Reviewing articles|reviewer]], archived articles (nearly all published articles) are only editable or movable by admins, and nothing can be published without a review. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 16:06, 29 May 2024 (UTC) *:Maybe it's enough to allow global stewards to respond to [[WN:AAA]] requests. Those are normally completed by Wikinews editors who are likely more aware of what is actual disruption here. I also don't think it takes much experience here to know what constitutes abuse. There are good give-aways that an experienced steward would recognize, regardless of their experience here, such as 1) posted by a new account, 2) new page created, 3) contains an external link, 4) contains offensive language, etc. The vandalism we see normally fits many of those descriptions. *:They also theoretically have the benefit of seeing global disruption and may recognize sooner a specific, cross-wiki LTA. *:Besides, what would be the downside? A false-positive deletion of genuine content running off what might otherwise become a long-term wikinewsie? We are already struggling to review articles we're getting from existing users. To me, that is the real problem we should be working on. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 16:30, 29 May 2024 (UTC) :{{support}} Although I think we should say something along the lines of generally speaking just use it for :A.Blocking/Unblocking :B.Deletion :C.Anything else urgent [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 21:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC) *{{support}} I appreciate Cromium's and Heavy Water's concerns about giving global sysops access to this local wiki. However, I'm worried about the state of this project without allowing global sysops. Furthermore, IMO, the project's autonomy isn't strong enough to withstand any more vandals and sockpuppets and LTAs. I can see one of admins being burned out from such common incidents. To allow ourselves being relaxed from work, maybe global sysops should see the workload and be burdened instead? [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 21:32, 31 May 2024 (UTC) :{{Support}} per @[[User:George Ho|George Ho]]. I would like to see global sysops taking the '''most conservative stance possible''', only removing '''obvious vandalism'''. If there is any doubt, they should leave it up and defer to our local admin team. I recognise the concerns of @[[User:Cromium|Cromium]] and gsysops editing here need to look at what we consider vandalism before touching anything. A lot of the vandalism tedium could be effectively handled by gsysops though. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]'s shout about [[WN:AAA]] requests may be a good start, and we could see how effective it is from there. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 18:25, 2 June 2024 (UTC) *{{s}} It's beyond ridiculous that some of ACV's pages have stayed up for days – a clear sign that this wiki needs to allow GSs. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|talk]]) 12:28, 3 June 2024 (UTC) ---- {{done}} This has been open for a while, and after checking with some other stewards beforehand, we have determined that there is a consensus to give global sysops access, with caveat that they will only use their access for clear cut cases, such as clear vandalism and spam. As I am not a regular at this project, I will let another user update [[Wikinews:Global rights usage]] accordingly, with clear mentions of the allowed use cases above. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 13:03, 3 June 2024 (UTC) == Global sysop restrictions == So, since we've opted into global sysops, now comes the time to define some more precise limits for what they are allowed to do here. @[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] and I have added a bit that reflects the basics of what was said in the original discussion, but I feel what we've written so far is a bit short and vague for a policy that affects what people who have nothing to do with this project can do. As a first note, I'd like to copy the "Any English Wikinews administrator can ask a global [sysop] to stop [using their permission] if what they deem to be misuse occurs, and the global [sysop] must comply with such a request." general rule that we apply to global rollbackers into the policy. I thought I'd bring it up here because I'm hesitant to just go and write out an entire policy myself, and people who have been here for longer will probably be able to write it in a better way than I could. If anyone has any thoughts or policy suggestions in this regard, please share them here and we can reach a consensus on what to put in the final policy. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 19:28, 3 June 2024 (UTC) :I don't see a problem with adding that. Beyond this, I don't see the need to expand on this further. Your linking to Wikinews policies should be enough for global sysops to understand what's going on, and should any clarification be needed, it should be OK to update it then. Put it this way: a global sysop should be able to easily figure out what they can (or cannot) do on this wiki, and the policy as written does that. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 20:08, 3 June 2024 (UTC) ::That's a fair point. I'm just wary that the opt-in didn't pass unanimously, with some quite high profile (@[[User:Cromium|Cromium]], @[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]]) oppose votes. I'd be interested to hear their opinions on if we should add anything else to the policy page, given that they opposed the opt-in &mdash; something to help address some of their specific concerns, perhaps. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 21:48, 3 June 2024 (UTC) :::Thank you for starting this discussion and making those changes to the policy page. I am still unsure about letting global sysops do these tasks but I'm willing to see what it produces. I'd like their remit to be limited to obvious vandalism and cross-wiki abuse. We have already had one global sysop action today by a user who had only made 15 edits here (mostly reverting vandalism or requesting deletion), which deleted a page that had random letters as a title BUT the content was the basic layout of new articles, as might happen if a new user used the system on [[:WN:Writing an article]]. The deletion happened five minutes after page creation. I checked on the global user contributions page and this was the IP users only edit, so it did not seem an obvious vandal although there may have been deleted contributions elsewhere. Although it most likely was a test page, my personal inclination would have been to leave it a while in case the new user tried further edits. For me, it wasn't a clear case of speedy deletion being needed. My feeling on restrictions is that global sysops should only delete pages that clearly fall under criteria A3, A6 or R4 on [[:Wikinews:Criteria for speedy deletion]]. I will keep observing these deletions and may comment further. ['''[[:User:Cromium|₂₄Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 23:18, 3 June 2024 (UTC) ::::Outside of some of the later CSD's for articles I don't see why they can't do everything else. If there trusted enough to be a global sysop, I'd imagine there trusted to use common sense and not do anything if they have no idea what their doing.@[[User:Cromium|Cromium]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 23:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC) :::::Cromium's concern is valid for the reason that Wikinews operates so differently to any other WMF project. Common sense that works on other wikis doesn't necessarily work here. I was hesitant to opt in too, honestly, but I feel with clear enough guidelines we can limit false positives on the global sysop side. I'm not entirely sure myself of the final restrictions we should impose on global sysops, so I feel this discussion is important to have so we don't argue about it in 3 months time if someone messes up because we didn't provide them any guidance. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 23:57, 3 June 2024 (UTC) ::::::Agreed. What I am trying to say is that global sysops should know this is a different wiki, and if there not used to it, either they don't do things here or they look around and learn.@[[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 23:58, 3 June 2024 (UTC) :That being said: I've updated the policy with information for [[meta:GIE]] and [[meta:AFH]] (which wikis cannot opt-out of, so in essence codifying what already happens). Also I moved the "can ask to remove" part to a single place so that it's clear that it applies to all rights. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 20:30, 3 June 2024 (UTC) :I agree with that first note for sure. I think that, maybe, we should have a restriction on the more controversial things, but I think were mostly okay. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 21:18, 3 June 2024 (UTC) == Removal of Microchip08's reviewer tools proposed == After notifications and invites toward the user, I have just now proposed the removal of Microchip08's reviewer tools: [[Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions/Removal/Microchip08]]. [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 02:49, 16 June 2024 (UTC) == Review and Admin fast track, to reinvigorate English Wikinews == {{Archive top}} We have now implemented pre-review on 25-30 articles as trial. Feedback on how this is going should proceed in [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy#Feedback_on_Pre-Review_process|the feedback request]]. <small>—The preceding [[w:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User: Me Da Wikipedian| Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk: Me Da Wikipedian|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ Me Da Wikipedian|contribs]]) 14:39, 19 June 2024‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned2 --> ---- There was discussion about the review process being broken, over at [[Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions]]. The suggestion was made to split the conversation off elsewhere, and I see no evidence that this was done, so I'm doing it. When I was a high schooler, I had first period off one year. I would kill time in the library, and so I asked for sysops privileges. I received them, almost instantly. The thinking at the time was that being an admin was no big deal. If you were wrong in your judgements, another sysops could revert you, and if needed, your special status could always be revoked. I became an early contributor to Wikinews, [[Florida's Walt Disney World launches revamped attractions|with my first article]] dated to November 16, 2004, just eight days after the project's launch. For years, things would be published almost instantly after they were submitted, unless they had substantial issues. But increasingly things I'd submit would get lost in a jumble, and marked stale. This included original reporting, enough so that I substantially left the project. I feel Wikinews needs to add five admins and five reviewers, minimum, in the hopes that one remains active over the medium term. If the people chosen end up making bad calls, that's the learning process. If they end up making really bad calls, okay, we remove the status. This is a wiki, everything is revertable. But more than likely, the people given these extra responsibilities will be a-okay. Thoughts? -- [[User:Zanimum|Zanimum]] ([[User talk:Zanimum|talk]]) 01:18, 22 April 2024 (UTC) :I have to agree. There's a major personnel shortage here, and it's not going to get better with the current system. Handing out admin and reviewer like the titles are irreversible and made of solid gold isn't going to do anything to improve the mess this place has found itself in. Anyone able to help out should be vetted, sure, but then they should be allowed to help. The situation as-is is entirely unsustainable, as the last few months have proven. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 09:44, 22 April 2024 (UTC) Tagging in {{u|Asheiou}}, {{u|MathXplore}}, {{u|Habst}}, {{u|Heavy Water}}, {{u|Michael.C.Wright}}, {{u|Bawolff}}, who all commented on the previous thread. -- [[User:Zanimum|Zanimum]] ([[User talk:Zanimum|talk]]) 01:21, 22 April 2024 (UTC) :I agree. This wiki has become silly. A bunch of rules with no one left for the rules to be enforced against. Somewhere along the way we've lost the path. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 02:40, 22 April 2024 (UTC) ::'Too few reviewers' has been a complaint for years. [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals/archives/2022/February#Reviewer_proposal 2022],[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy/archives/2020/March 2020] This is the chronic problem I referred to recently.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Flagged_revisions/Requests_for_permissions#c-Michael.C.Wright-20240313154800-Asheiou-20240306211500] ::I propose the following scheme: ::*No immediate approval for elevated privileges ::*A new {{tl|pre-review}} template that has three possible statuses: <span style="background:#c0c0c0">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span> '''In progress''' (default), <span style="background:#008000">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span> '''Recommend publish''', or <span style="background:#800000">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span> '''Not ready'''. The only parameters for this template can be 1, 2, or 3 ::*Anyone can perform pre-review by starting a new section in the article's collaboration page titled "Pre-review" followed by {{tl|pre-review}} ::**Articles that have the status <span style="background:#008000">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span> '''Recommend publish''' can be more-quickly reviewed by an existing reviewer ::**Reviewers will learn which pre-reviewers leave good notes for them and demonstrate the ability to improve articles prior to publication. ::**Articles that have the status <span style="background:#800000">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span> '''Not ready''' will have the {{tl|review}} template changed by the pre-reviewer to {{tl|develop}} for changes to be made (saving reviewers time) ::**Authors are thus incentivized to do more of their own copy editing if their articles contain obvious and easy-to-fix errors that cause them to fail pre-review. ::*Pre-reviewers are required to use the {{tl|tasks}} template as well as clear notes in the collaboration page. ::**Links to policy with explanations indicate a proficient pre-reviewer. ::**Links to previous precedent and examples indicate a proficient pre-reviewer. ::**This also informs new authors/users of our policies. ::Existing reviewers and admins can at any time initiate a vote for elevated privileges for a pre-reviewer based on their demonstrated ability to pre-review. The voting process has a defined time-limit, after which only a simple majority out of ≥ 3 admin and/or reviewers is needed to grant elevated privileges. ::Any reviewer or admin can at any time initiate a vote of "no confidence" in the scheme itself. That process too has a defined time-limit, after which only a simple majority out of ≥ 3 admin and/or reviewers is needed to end the scheme. ::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 16:41, 22 April 2024 (UTC) :::I do not entirely disagree with everything I'm reading here. The 'pre-review' idea might have a pinch of merit. But:once again, we find ourselves quacking about over things that matter little, while spending minimal time on things that ''REALLY'' matter, namely: Getting the news, submitting the news, editing the news and publishing the news. That is what we are supposed to be about at this place. Let's try not to move too speedily on this just yet. We need a period of contemplation on this -- but I like the discussion on-the-whole. So, quite seriously: Who wants to become a Reviewer in the near future?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:29, 22 April 2024 (UTC) ::::I would volunteer to help. There needs to be some sort of plan or system in place to help on-board people and make the process as smooth and effective as possible. A scheme like the one I've proposed could serve dual purposes: assisting current reviewers in evaluating aspiring reviewers and offering aspiring reviewers an opportunity to immerse themselves in the intricacies of the role. In a way saying to new reviewers; ''if you want it, this is what it takes. Are you still interested?'' I think the review process is completely different from writing a good article. Though it requires that ability as a foundation. ::::I guess I'm trying to err on the side of fewer reviewers to prevent too many who just want the title and a new userbox. I also see little value in retreading discussions that have been had for years. A news provider needs to be both nimble and thoughtful, intentional, and deliberate. -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 13:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC) ::::As stated in my review request, I'd be happy to help out. I'm just coming out of my health slump so I should be around more soon. I'm starting on en-wiki with small edits to get my footing again and build up a bit. I'm going to reapproach AILSHA to ask some questions about some of the more recent things she's been doing since Eurovision. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 16:07, 23 April 2024 (UTC) :::I would totally support this, however I think there should be '''some''' requirements for pre-review, if for nothing other than preventing vandalism, nonsense, and people with '''absolutely''' no idea what they are doing. Maybe something like: :::1.5 published articles. This would be so that they have at last some idea of what passes a review, and some idea of our policies on how to write articles. :::2.Autoconfirmed. To prevent vandalism, and users who don't know anything about Wikinews. In reality most people meeting the first requirement would meet the second. :::I think maybe would could have it so that these people could review pending changes as well. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 18:50, 19 May 2024 (UTC) ::::I have created the template {{tl|Pre-review}} based on my comments above. I am interested in feedback about the template itself as well as any thoughts on its effectiveness in getting good, early evaluations of content. It is ready to be ''carefully'' used now. I think using it would be a good way for any aspiring reviewer to get a feel for the ''basics'' of reviewing (the basics = reviewing against the pillars). ::::I've [[Talk:Russian_President_Vladimir_Putin_ready_for_ceasefire_talks_with_Ukraine#Pre-review|used it once on an article]] and I think I will change the pass/fail verbiage to something else. The goal being not to discourage or offend authors, but to provide legitimate, understandable, and actionable feed-back with an ultimate goal of getting more quality articles published. ::::If there is feedback strictly based on the template—such as format, layout, etc—that feedback is best placed on the template talk page so we don't lose the focus here. ::::Current reviewers; if you went to review an article that already had a {{tl|pre-review}} on it and the pre-review was done by someone you trusted, with a track record of good articles and good work with other authors, would that help you? --[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 13:12, 30 May 2024 (UTC) :::::I have made a proposal for a [[Wikinews:Pre-Reviewing|pre-reviewing page]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 00:52, 31 May 2024 (UTC) :::::Given that @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] has left for 6 months it seems (and Asheiou for a week), we will need all the reviewer time we can get. I think pre-reviews are a great way to so. I would like to ping people who are, under the proposal, eligible for pre-review, and ask that they consider it. :::::Users eligible (I am pinging Michael.C.Wright because they would have been eligible when they started doing it) {{ping|Asheiou|Michael.C.Wright|BigKrow|Виктор Пинчук}}. Thank you. :::::P.S. Let me know if I missed anyone. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 11:05, 2 June 2024 (UTC) :::Idea:Make it such that the review category is sorted by assessed ready at the top, non-pre reviewed in the middle, and assessed not ready at the bottom@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 11:06, 2 June 2024 (UTC) ::::I made a first-pass attempt at this but it isn't working yet. It's tricky because the {{tl|pre-review}} is applied to the talk page. But the article is what is in the category 'Review' and thus gets listed in the review queue. I do like the idea and would like to see if it can be done. But I'm also trying to ensure the {{tl|pre-review}} is least-impacting right now, as it's not an officially approved process. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 18:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC) :::::Is it possible to apply pre-review to the main page? It so far has silent consensus, but if anyone complains we can always undo it.@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 20:22, 3 June 2024 (UTC) ::::::[[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]]: What exactly do you mean? And also, hell no (I hope it's not what I think it is, but I can't think of any alternative interpretations). There isn't even a consensus for pre-review to be implemented (silent consensus is an absurd idea, particularly for a small wiki like en.wn, and actually means there is no consensus). I thought the one done for the article about Putin allegedly being open to ceasefire talks was just a beta version intended to get feedback, so I didn't object. Now there's been another, and it is apparently being treated like it's a feature of policy, even though it still is only acknowledged by a ''proposed'' policy. ::::::Speaking of which, I have questions about the pre-review process, and especially about that proposed policy. I see two different people basically presenting two radically different ideas of what this would be. ::::::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], from what I can gather from the pre-reviews you've done and your April 22 comment above, your framework involves pre-reviewers recommending actions to reporters and reviewers. You asked whether those recommendations, from someone reviewers trust, would help reviewers. Just speaking for myself obviously, though I hope other reviewers would feel the same, I would only trust them to point out issues, not to ensure an article, or a facet of it (e.g. neutrality) is pass-worthy. Unless they're trusted enought to be reviewers, and I wouldn't want to rely solely on my own judgement of that. The consensus resulting from an FR/RFP has the benefit of showing us the entire community's opinion of that. If they are just being trusted to point out issues, I don't understand why this needs to be a formal thing with the complications of such, because non-reviewers have been doing a similar sort of thing for years (you among them). ::::::Me Da Wikipedian, pre-review as I gather you envision it also sounds redundant...to, um, review. According to the proposed policy, we would be giving full reviewer rights &mdash; ''plus autosight'', which tells me you probably don't understand how the current system works &mdash; to people with possibly very little experience here. Am I wrong about how your proposal is supposed to work? Again, why wouldn't these people just run for reviewer, then? [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 21:53, 3 June 2024 (UTC) :::::::@[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]], what I mean by "silent consensus" is that a few users want it and no one has said they don't, so until then it is reasonable to think there are no complaints. And yes, unless and until someone has an issue its being treated as such, it's reasonable to think that...no one has any issue with it being used. Obviously, the point of pre-review would not be to be the same as review. It would exist to allow a more open discussion between the pre-reviewer and the author, someone who can fix the issues with being worried about being too involved in writing the article, training for potential reviewers, helping to prioritize the work of actual reviewers, and helping with more minor stuff like rollback and pending changes. Their judgement has '''no effect at all''' on whether or not an article is published. The main thing they can't do is the really hard part about reviewers jobs, you know being solely responsible to make sure something is of quality and if so publish it to the main page. At least how I meant the autosight was similar to the pending changes right on enwiki, to allow them to review pending changes, not new articles. Again, at least with my requirements, these people would have a reasonable amount of experience. People wouldn't just run for reviewer...because well the level of trust and confidence needed for someone to give a recommendation and help a new user out is much different than the power to publish something to the main page. :::::::I completely concur with @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]'s comment below as well. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 23:43, 3 June 2024 (UTC) {{Outdent|6}}{{color|#8fbc8f|I thought the one done for the article about Putin allegedly being open to ceasefire talks was just a beta version intended to get feedback...}} :Correct {{color|#8fbc8f|Now there's been another, and it is apparently being treated like it's a feature of policy, even though it still is only acknowledged by a proposed policy.}} :The template is not intended as a policy feature. The disclaimer at the end clarifies: "This is a pre-review only and is not part of the official review process." If it evolves into a policy, that's fine, but its purpose is to provide a consistent, predictable format for evaluations by another user. {{color|#8fbc8f|from what I can gather from the pre-reviews you've done and your April 22 comment above, your framework involves pre-reviewers recommending actions to reporters and reviewers.}} :Correct {{color|#8fbc8f|I would only trust them to point out issues, not to ensure an article, or a facet of it (e.g. neutrality) is pass-worthy.}} :Correct {{color|#8fbc8f|Unless they're trusted enought to be reviewers, and I wouldn't want to rely solely on my own judgement of that. The consensus resulting from an FR/RFP has the benefit of showing us the entire community's opinion of that.}} :I made the template in the context of [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy#c-Michael.C.Wright-20240422164100-Bawolff-20240422024000 my comment above], in which I proposed a process for grooming and identifying potential reviewers. In this process, any user can evaluate an un-reviewed article and provide feedback, ranging from a simple second opinion to an in-depth evaluation that helps get an article published. To reiterate what I said above, "Reviewers will learn which pre-reviewers leave good notes for them and demonstrate the ability to improve articles prior to publication." In this way, a good pre-reviewer (this is just a name to discuss them, not meant to be a unique group, with status, etc.) can be identified by reviewers as someone who could be nominated or supported as a potential reviewer. {{color|#8fbc8f|If they are just being trusted to point out issues, I don't understand why this needs to be a formal thing with the complications of such, because non-reviewers have been doing a similar sort of thing for years (you among them).}} :One of the benefits I see in the easyPeerReview gadget is that it forces a reviewer to at least acknowledge the pillars one-by-one, implying each was checked by the reviewer as part of a (hopefully) structured, rigorous, thorough review. I think the template {{tl|Pre-review}} could do the same for potential reviewers. I don't expect it to train people on how to review, nor do I expect it to signal a potentially good reviewer. But over time, a bunch of pre-reviews by someone could do both. :As [[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] intimated at [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous#Feedback_invited_on_Procedure_for_Sibling_Project_Lifecycle|Water cooler/Miscellaneous]], we need to change the way en.wn is perceived. By my count, one could potentially argue we meet three of the proposed criteria to shutter a project: # Lack of impact on other Wikimedia projects and wider Internet infrastructure # Severe lack of community activity # Strong external project to merge with (Wikipedia) :We need more reviewers. My goal with this template is to help groom and identify those individuals more quickly and easily. Sorry for the long post. I'm trying to make things more clear. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 23:10, 3 June 2024 (UTC) {{Archive bottom}} == Making [[Wikinews:Neutrality]] an official policy == We already treat it as a policy the vast majority of the time, and I doubt anyone seriously disagrees with it. Should we make it official policy at this point? [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 10:43, 20 June 2024 (UTC) :There's already [[Wikinews:Neutral point of view]] as a policy. I can't help wonder whether NPOV and neutrality are interchangeable nowadays. Anyways, no point on promoting "Neutrality" from essay to guideline... or policy at this time. [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 08:18, 21 June 2024 (UTC) ::But (as is pretty obvious), Neutrality contains different information that NPOV. Perhaps they could be merged into one policy as well...but I think the point would be because it contains useful information not in NPOV, generally already treated as though it was a policy, and also WN:Neutrality is actually more of specific things you should do, while WN:NPOV is the general idea (be neutral). @[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 11:09, 21 June 2024 (UTC) :::Hmm.... I dunno. If the community here is very small, then why make Neutrality a rule? [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 11:20, 21 June 2024 (UTC) ::::I fail to see how that is in any way related. So your saying we should make it a rule because this wiki is small? Don't understand why that supports your arguement. @[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 11:21, 21 June 2024 (UTC) :::::Lemme put this another way: I don't see a point of promoting Neutrality as a guideline or policy, and there's been a lotta effort done to make Neutrality an essay, unless, of course, to be consistent (or aligned?) with other Wikimedia projects using NPOV as a rule. Furthermore, I don't know whether Neutrality helps much other than to limit any more articles or publications. I'd be too hesitant to support another rule at the project's current state as-is. [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 11:29, 21 June 2024 (UTC) :::::Or, as I must say, I don't see the project's community expanding or growing anytime soon, and creating another rule may either worsen or not much benefit the project. [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 11:34, 21 June 2024 (UTC) ::::::So you think creating a rule to make articles more neutral will harm the project. Quality over quantity. @[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 11:36, 21 June 2024 (UTC) :::::::That's not exactly what I mean. I appreciate your mission to make the articles more neutral, but let's be very, very cautious about this. When [[WN:Newsworthiness]] was promoted from essay to guideline six years ago, I wasn't very pleased, honestly. Nonetheless, the late Pi Zero warned about [[Wikinews:Instruction creep|instruction creep]] before promoting it. :::::::Well, I'll say no more about this for now. Let's await others' opinions about this. If no one else besides you challenges my views, then we can assume "no consensus" to make the essay a policy or guideline. [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 11:51, 21 June 2024 (UTC) ::::::::Yes, the fact that we need to be neutral and actually publish news on a news website does limit us. But would you seriously rather a site without a restriction that we need to actually publish only what is news? ::::::::Institution creep (as defined in the page you linked), is to the point where "instructions increase in size over time until they are unmanageable". It is '''very''' managble to only keep to actual news (which there is much more of than we write per day) and also managable (and necessary) to be neutral. @[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 11:54, 21 June 2024 (UTC) :{{outdent|::::::}} Any published articles that weren't and/or still aren't "neutral" yet as claimed? --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 12:29, 21 June 2024 (UTC) ::Not that I can think of off the top of my head (but I probably could find some issues if I went through our archives). But, this is not the point. In fact, it demonstrates mine, that it is managable to be neutral. Also, as previously said, we more or less already follow WN:Neutrality. @[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 13:15, 21 June 2024 (UTC) :::I agree with [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] that we should work to avoid things that may discourage new folks joining us. And to that point, articles going stale in the review queue is a ''major'' discouragement to new and even long-time users. :::{{color|#8fbc8f|Any published articles that weren't and/or still aren't "neutral" yet as claimed?}} Yes, there are still issues here: [[Talk:Islamic_State_Khorasan_Province_claims_responsibility_for_attack_at_Crocus_City_Hall,_Krasnogorsk#Major_issues]]. :::But in that case, I think developing a corrections and retractions policy or improving the existing guideline would be a better use of our time rather than a neutrality policy. But again, I think getting more reviewers should be our sole focus right now. A news organization that can't publish news articles ceases to be a news organization. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 14:08, 21 June 2024 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], I think both you and @[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] are acting like publishing articles and having more reviewers and having a neutrality policy are mutually exclusive. Here something that shouldn't be news: There not. In fact, for the most part we already follow WN:Neutrality. ::::Articles don't go stale because we formalize a part of our neutrality policy, they go stale due to a reviewer shortage. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 14:12, 21 June 2024 (UTC) :::::First, if we already follow a neutrality policy, why <strike>waste</strike> spend our time and effort formalizing one? Second, in the time that you've been here, when have you seen that the current group of users could agree on much of anything to change or otherwise accomplish in our efforts to meet the project requirement of simply publishing news articles? [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 14:16, 21 June 2024 (UTC); edited 16:22, 21 June 2024 (UTC) ::::::After re-reading my comment above I see how it could come across in the wrong tone. I am frustrated with the general grid-lock around here, not the proposal to develop a new policy. This project has a long history of difficulties in fulfilling its reason for existence; publishing news articles. I feel like we have several active and semi-active members right now who want to change things toward that goal and I'm trying (maybe too hard) to keep that energy focused on developing new reviewers. I could have worded the above comment better. My apologies. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 16:22, 21 June 2024 (UTC) :{{outdent|5}} Hmm... I'm still against promoting it as a "policy", but I'm neutral about it as a "guideline" instead if it's more enforceable or enforced still. Thoughts, Michael? --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 17:48, 21 June 2024 (UTC) ::I think we have limited capacity to make decisions collectively and therefore that capacity should be focused right now solely on achieving the project's goal; publishing news articles. ::I don't see the lack of a neutrality policy impacting our ability to publish. I am not convinced there is a problem to solve here that is more important than the problem of too few reviewers. ::@[[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] said {{color|#8fbc8f|@Michael.C.Wright, I think both you and @George Ho are acting like publishing articles and having more reviewers and having a neutrality policy are mutually exclusive.}} I believe these are not mutually exclusive concepts and there's a distinction between "having a neutrality policy" and "turning an essay into a policy." The latter process consumes reporters' and reviewers' time and attention, which could otherwise be directed towards increasing the number of active reviewers. ::I agree that relying on institutional knowledge instead of clear policies and guidelines is problematic, especially given our shortage of active reviewers. However, I believe the lack of active reviewers is a more fundamental issue. ::In other words; I feel like this is akin to arranging the deck chairs on the sinking titanic. As I said above on June 3; I think the writing is on the wall for en.wn: :::As [[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] intimated at [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous#Feedback_invited_on_Procedure_for_Sibling_Project_Lifecycle|Water cooler/Miscellaneous]], we need to change the way en.wn is perceived. By my count, one could potentially argue we meet three of the proposed criteria to shutter a project: :::# Lack of impact on other Wikimedia projects and wider Internet infrastructure :::# Severe lack of community activity :::# Strong external project to merge with (Wikipedia) ::I think the only way we avoid being shuttered is by publishing articles daily. Reporters aren't going to stay if they consistently "waste" their time writing articles that ultimately get deleted rather than published. Readers won't stay if they don't see anything new to read day after day (after day). ::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 14:10, 22 June 2024 (UTC) :::Agreed. However, I still don't understand why turning an essay into a policy is something you will significantly decrease article output. :::Also, I really don't think we would be able to merge with Wikipedia well. :::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 10:12, 23 June 2024 (UTC) == Feedback on Pre-Review process == {{tl|flag}} We have now had at least 17 pre-reviews on at least 15 articles and counting over the past 2 weeks or so, including at least 8 done by me. As such, I think we have a basic idea of how this process is working. How is it? Authors who have recieved a pre-review ({{ping|BigKrow}}, {{ping|Asheiou}}, myself, {{ping|Lejar}}, {{ping|Uju4Ever}}, and {{ping|Professor Penguino}}), is it helpful? Pre-reviewers ({{ping|Michael.C.Wright}}, myself, and hopefully Asheiou at some point), how is it for you? Reviewers who have reviewed after a pre-review (Asheiou, {{ping|Tom Morris}}, @[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]], and {{ping|Cromium}}), was the pre-review helpful to you? Generally, is this process helpful and should it continue? If you support the continuation of the pre-review process, do you support any changes to the [[Wikinews:Pre-Reviewing|pre-review proposal policy]] or is it good to go? Should we decide to adopt it, how should we enforce the requirements and how should we grant the permission? Will users be allowed to decide to opt out of pre-review? Please share any and all feedback about the process. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 21:07, 14 June 2024 (UTC) :I think the only requirement for pre-review should be auto-confirmation. If the point of a pre-review is to have it open to more people, just creating a tiered pre-reviewer permission is counterintuitive, especially if a permission would have to be applied for. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 22:07, 14 June 2024 (UTC) ::"I think the only requirement for pre-review should be auto-confirmation" - The idea, at least my idea, of pre-review is that people with '''some''' idea of what they are doing can help out new users. A user can be autoconfirmed from doing something totally unrelated to writing an article and will likely have no idea what they are talking about. The other requirements were made so that someone at least has a basic understanding of policy, has had articles actually pass review before (you can't review someone elses work on something if you can't do the work yourself), and there recommendations will do more good than harm. The idea of application is just because I think it would be annoying to try to get it granted automatically, but the proposal states that it should be granted to anyone meeting the requirements except in rare cases. @[[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 22:12, 14 June 2024 (UTC) :::My idea of the pre-review "role" was less of a formalized role and more of semi-formalized process anyone could follow, even if they do a poor job of it (at least the first time or two). The goal is to create a pipeline for new reviewers. I think we need as little friction as possible in creating new reviewers without compromising the quality of reviewers. :::Having said that, I'm not against a formalized role. I would like to see how consensus develops around it. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 17:13, 16 June 2024 (UTC) ::::I agree. I do think that a bad pre-review can be confusing thought as many people will find up following the incorrect recommendation. As well, at least for myself, by first 10 or so edits were adding punctuation (to a now deleted article). Would you have really thought I would do anything but give useless/harmful recommendations at that point? 5 articles and you’ll at least know enough to be helpful. Activity is avoid pre-reviewers who don’t respond in a reasonable timeframe and given how pre-review is pretty new and changing so they will keep up. {{ping|Michael.C.Wright|Asheiou}} [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 19:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC) :Yes, it has been very helpful to me, as a new contributor. [[User:Lejar|Lejar]] ([[User talk:Lejar|talk]]) 10:02, 16 June 2024 (UTC) ::Awesome. Thanks for the feedback. For me that is a primary mark of success; assisting new contributors understand how things work here, especially given our approach of limited documentation and policies and higher dependence on institutional knowledge. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 17:15, 16 June 2024 (UTC) :::Totally agree with {{ping|Michael.C.Wright}}. Honestly, despite all the debate over details of the proposed policy, so far this has been implemented and the people getting pre-reviews, the pre-reviewers, and the reviewers all find it helpful. That is point, lets remember that. {{ping|Lejar|Asheiou}} [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 19:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC) :Thank you [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]], for starting this conversation. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 17:29, 16 June 2024 (UTC) ::Your welcome. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 19:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC) NOTE:Asheiou was granted preview status when they should not have been by {{ping|Bddpaux}} and made 1 review before the status was removed. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 21:07, 14 June 2024 (UTC) :I can say that in the one review I did, I found the issues highlighted by the pre-review useful for informing my review outcome. I agree with @[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] that pre-review just by its nature can never be used to assure the publishability of a piece, but it can be used to point out things to work on. :My continued hesitancy with pre-review is that all the time spent pre-reviewing could be spent fixing the article to a standard where it can be published. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 22:05, 14 June 2024 (UTC) ::"pre-review just by its nature can never be used to assure the publishability of a piece" - which is why the pre is there. "all the time spent pre-reviewing could be spent fixing the article to a standard where it can be published" - this actually brings up some other interesting questions. Can you pre-review your own article. Also, is can pre-reviewers pre-review an article they fixed up heavily, like I have done at [[IDF missile strikes UN school]] and [[Last civilian hospital closes in Darfur, Sudan]]? @[[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 22:08, 14 June 2024 (UTC) :::I don't think anyone can effectively review their own work, that's why we do peer-review. :::Pre-reviewing something you did lots of work on should be okay, because it's a *pre*-review. An uninvolved editor will still go through and work out any issues a pre-reviewer may have inadvertently introduced. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 22:17, 14 June 2024 (UTC) ::::"I don't think anyone can effectively review their own work" and "Pre-reviewing something you did lots of work on should be okay," are sort of contradictory, as if you did a lot of work on it you are kind of reviewing (partially) your own work.@[[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 22:36, 14 June 2024 (UTC) :::::{{color|#8fbc8f|[A]ll the time spent pre-reviewing could be spent fixing the article}} I agree with the general principle. However, a reviewer is limited to how involved they can be in producing an article. There are bright lines such as adding sources that disqualify a reviewer.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:Missing_New_York_City_chef_Andrea_Zamperoni_found_dead#Edits] I think pre-reviews are most valuable when they are done in the context of an actual review. Therefore any recommendation to not publish should mirror why the same article would otherwise fail review, such as [[WN:Source]] problems, extensive copyright problems, etc. :::::[[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]], you raised that point before and after reading and agreeing with it, I updated the [[Template:Pre-review|template's documentation]] by recommending pre-reviewers first "Perform any desired edits to the article to help improve it..." The ultimate goal of a pre-review is to get articles published easily and quickly and therefore correcting as many problems as possible before review is helpful. Maybe I should update the proposed policy (that could also just become a guideline) to reflect that, because it is a very good point. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 17:24, 16 June 2024 (UTC) :::::”I should update the proposed policy” - Please don’t until we can reach a consensus, just so that we have a thing that exists (and stays the same) that we can propose changes to and then make only changes we agree on. {{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 19:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC) ::::::I also meant to add that pre-reviewing one's own work goes against the spirit of peer review, in my opinion. Authors often read their own words as they intended, not as others might interpret them. An uninvolved reviewer is more likely to spot errors. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 17:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC) ::"all the time spent pre-reviewing could be spent fixing the article to a standard where it can be published" - by this logic, provided there is another reviewer who could review, reviewers shouldn't give not ready reviews, just fix it. And yet they do.@[[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 22:49, 14 June 2024 (UTC) :::There's no guarantee that another reviewer will actually be available or willing to review something. Not ready reviews given out by actual reviewers are essential to ensure that reviewers don't lock themselves out of reviewing. The difference with pre-review is that a pre-reviewer has no ability to actually publish a piece, so their ready assessment isn't binding. The roles are different. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 23:08, 14 June 2024 (UTC) ::::"There's no guarantee that another reviewer will actually be available or willing to review something" - there are certain times you can be reasonably certain. Again, I think that whether or not pre-reviewers can lock themselves out of pre-reviewing does make a difference here and a large one. The other value of a not ready review is if the pre-reviewer doesn't have the time, interest, expertise, to fix it. As well, some choices can be up to the author (problem X can be solved by Y or Z). Furthermore, a not ready review allows the pre-reviewer to give recommendations to the author and reviewer, allowing the reviewer to check if the issue was fixed quickly rather than needing to find it. As well, part of pre-review is to help users gain experience with reviewing, and for reviewers to know how well a job they did. @[[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 23:16, 14 June 2024 (UTC) :::::I agree. The pre-review process benefits everyone: reviewers, reporters, and potential reviewers. For example, it helps identify uncertain issues. By using {{tl|pre-review}}, questions can be raised, and observing how reviewers address them provides valuable feedback. This helps reporters avoid future issues and allows reviewers to understand pre-reviewers' capabilities. Ideally, the original author can address potential issues before review, making the reviewer's job easier and faster and hopefully lead to more published articles. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 17:28, 16 June 2024 (UTC) :I was persuaded by Michael.C.Wright's comment [[Special:Diff/4783865|above]] that this could be a good thing. I looked to poke holes in it and it seems like a solid proposal, mostly. But I would prefer pre-reviewers to need to be a MediaWiki user group with formal approval, on further thought. That's the only way I can see to guard against situations where people completely ignorant of what they're talking about, even if well-meaning, give schlocky pre-reviews, reporters don't know that the advice is inaccurate or incomplete, and experienced users have to go in and explain what the pre-reviewer got wrong. Whereas if pre-reviewers are required to have at least some experience, they're less likely to give poor advice and cause further trouble, and if they do that &mdash; which they probably would, sometimes &mdash; there's a lot less they need to be corrected on. I think they shouldn't be able to pre-review articles they'd worked on significantly (judged by the same standards as for reviewers), for the reasons stated above of leaving choices up to the reporter and of the benefit of peer review, and also because reporters, to the extent possible, should learn by doing of having to fix problems with their articles. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 06:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC) ::" I would prefer pre-reviewers to need to be a MediaWiki user group with formal approval" I think that would be a bit difficult (anyone, please contradict me if I'm wrong) to get for 1 relatively inactive site. "the only way I can see to guard against situations where people completely ignorant of what they're talking about, even if well-meaning, give schlocky pre-reviews" - I think my idea of 5 articles including 1 in the last month and autoconfirmation, as well as a small bit of admin discretion (or however would give this should we make it more formalized). ::I completely agree with you. I would say that it is optimal to have a formalized group, however it would not be by community consensus (as those are so hard to get around here), just the granting admin. Here is something else. So far, both of our pre-reviewers have made minimal errors, none of which caused too much damage. Allowing any autoconfirmed user to pre-review (which would through a bit of estimation be around 140,000 users or so) would result in the vast majority of pre-reviewers having no idea what they are doing. No pre-review would be better than this.@[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]]@[[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 10:07, 20 June 2024 (UTC) === After 1 week === After 1 week, here's what we have agreed on: # Unanimous consensus that a pre-review process should exist in some form # Unanimous consensus that pre-reviewers should be able give a recommend publish review # Unanimous consensus that pre-reviewers may not pre-review they're own articles. # Unanimous consensus that pre-reviewers must be auto-confirmed or confirmed Here's what we have a disagreement on: # Can Pre-Reviewers give out Not-Ready pre-reviews? # Can Pre-Reviewers pre-review an article they have worked heavily on? # Should there be other requirements for pre-reviewer (other than confirmed/autoconfirmed) and if so what should they be? # Should Pre-Reviewer be a formalized group? From this point forwards, pre-reviewers should follow the 4 statements above that we have agreed to. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 11:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Heavy Water]] said {{color|#8fbc8f|But I would prefer pre-reviewers to need to be a MediaWiki user group with formal approval, on further thought.}} How do we make that group—who would we task to do so, an admin? If we are making a new group of pre-reviewers, should we attach 'patroller' privileges to that new group? See also: [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy/archives/2024/April#Additional_Checkusers_and_maybe_patrollers]] Patrolling new pages seems like a good fit for "pre-reviewers." [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 14:23, 22 June 2024 (UTC) ::Below are my responses to the open items listed above: ::# Can Pre-Reviewers give out Not-Ready pre-reviews? ::#* I think a pre-reviewer's ability to recommend in both directions (publish/not ready) is vital. ::# Can Pre-Reviewers pre-review an article they have worked heavily on? ::#* I think a pre-reviewer, as a peer reviewer, must maintain distance just as a reviewer must. ::# Should there be other requirements for pre-reviewer (other than confirmed/autoconfirmed) and if so what should they be? ::#* We should make it very easy to give (and remove) pre-reviewer privileges. Otherwise we ultimately make it harder to give reviewer privileges. Therefore, in my opinion, fewer requirements are likely better than more. ::# Should Pre-Reviewer be a formalized group? ::#* I feel like it adds a hurdle to require a collective decision to allow one to pre-review an article. But I see the potential damage a poor review can do. I (grudgingly) agree a formalized group would mitigate that risk. ::#* {{question}} Should all pre-reviews stop now that we are converging on consensus in favor of a formalized group? ::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 14:39, 22 June 2024 (UTC) :::"Should all pre-reviews stop now that we are converging on consensus in favor of a formalized group" - No. A few reasons: :::1.Further pre-reviews are still providing benefit :::2.More pre-reviews means more of a "sample" to know how well pre-review works :::3.I believe that no one has suggested guidelines/requirements that any current pre-reviewer does not meet :::Patroller actually seems like a great idea to add to the "pre-review package". I agree that fewer requirements is better. I'll explain why I think the 3 I gave are needed though. :::Autoconfirmed:To allow them to be able to move the page, which sometimes '''does''' need to be done. Not a huge detail...but considered other requirements they'll probably have it anyways :::5 articles:So that they will actually have knowledge about WikiNews. You can teach what you don't know yourself. :::1 article in the past month:So that we only get people who are semi-active as pre-reviewers. Also to avoid someone who hasn't been here in 10 years getting pre-review and also probably not knowing what they're doing. And, of course, there are some people who could have gotten 5 articles even before peer-review was made. Keep in mind that we '''do''' have "rare cases" in there, and our admins can use common sense. :::Here is actually another question:When review permissions are removed through PEP, are they automatically a pre-reviewer? Is there PEP for pre-reviewers? :::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 10:27, 23 June 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Cromium|Cromium]] as you have conducted the vast majority of reviews after a pre-review, do you have an opinion? [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 01:09, 28 June 2024 (UTC) == Proposed Removal of the Reviewer Permission From Tom Morris == After various reminders by <!--{{ping|George Ho}}--> George Ho with no response, I have [[Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions/Removal/Tom Morris|requested the removal of the reviewer permissio]]n from [[User:Tom Morris|Tom Morris]]. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 12:42, 28 June 2024 (UTC) 1jz5mt6ja2380j9f4p4c0x741lb9blm 14 3000076 5007581 4795312 2026-04-13T13:25:02Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 so we know where we are in removing DPL. Youch! 5007581 wikitext text/x-wiki __HIDDENCAT__ Pages in category: {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Pages using the DynamicPageList extension}} 8yhk9o8dsyprf0ihjtsu3rjn97z6rxw 4 3002296 5007751 4802571 2026-04-13T18:38:02Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 close flag in archive 5007751 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talk archive}} == Feedback on Pre-Review process == {{tl|flag}} We have now had at least 17 pre-reviews on at least 15 articles and counting over the past 2 weeks or so, including at least 8 done by me. As such, I think we have a basic idea of how this process is working. How is it? Authors who have recieved a pre-review ({{ping|BigKrow}}, {{ping|Asheiou}}, myself, {{ping|Lejar}}, {{ping|Uju4Ever}}, and {{ping|Professor Penguino}}), is it helpful? Pre-reviewers ({{ping|Michael.C.Wright}}, myself, and hopefully Asheiou at some point), how is it for you? Reviewers who have reviewed after a pre-review (Asheiou, {{ping|Tom Morris}}, @[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]], and {{ping|Cromium}}), was the pre-review helpful to you? Generally, is this process helpful and should it continue? If you support the continuation of the pre-review process, do you support any changes to the [[Wikinews:Pre-Reviewing|pre-review proposal policy]] or is it good to go? Should we decide to adopt it, how should we enforce the requirements and how should we grant the permission? Will users be allowed to decide to opt out of pre-review? Please share any and all feedback about the process. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 21:07, 14 June 2024 (UTC) :I think the only requirement for pre-review should be auto-confirmation. If the point of a pre-review is to have it open to more people, just creating a tiered pre-reviewer permission is counterintuitive, especially if a permission would have to be applied for. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 22:07, 14 June 2024 (UTC) ::"I think the only requirement for pre-review should be auto-confirmation" - The idea, at least my idea, of pre-review is that people with '''some''' idea of what they are doing can help out new users. A user can be autoconfirmed from doing something totally unrelated to writing an article and will likely have no idea what they are talking about. The other requirements were made so that someone at least has a basic understanding of policy, has had articles actually pass review before (you can't review someone elses work on something if you can't do the work yourself), and there recommendations will do more good than harm. The idea of application is just because I think it would be annoying to try to get it granted automatically, but the proposal states that it should be granted to anyone meeting the requirements except in rare cases. @[[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 22:12, 14 June 2024 (UTC) :::My idea of the pre-review "role" was less of a formalized role and more of semi-formalized process anyone could follow, even if they do a poor job of it (at least the first time or two). The goal is to create a pipeline for new reviewers. I think we need as little friction as possible in creating new reviewers without compromising the quality of reviewers. :::Having said that, I'm not against a formalized role. I would like to see how consensus develops around it. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 17:13, 16 June 2024 (UTC) ::::I agree. I do think that a bad pre-review can be confusing thought as many people will find up following the incorrect recommendation. As well, at least for myself, by first 10 or so edits were adding punctuation (to a now deleted article). Would you have really thought I would do anything but give useless/harmful recommendations at that point? 5 articles and you’ll at least know enough to be helpful. Activity is avoid pre-reviewers who don’t respond in a reasonable timeframe and given how pre-review is pretty new and changing so they will keep up. {{ping|Michael.C.Wright|Asheiou}} [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 19:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC) :Yes, it has been very helpful to me, as a new contributor. [[User:Lejar|Lejar]] ([[User talk:Lejar|talk]]) 10:02, 16 June 2024 (UTC) ::Awesome. Thanks for the feedback. For me that is a primary mark of success; assisting new contributors understand how things work here, especially given our approach of limited documentation and policies and higher dependence on institutional knowledge. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 17:15, 16 June 2024 (UTC) :::Totally agree with {{ping|Michael.C.Wright}}. Honestly, despite all the debate over details of the proposed policy, so far this has been implemented and the people getting pre-reviews, the pre-reviewers, and the reviewers all find it helpful. That is point, lets remember that. {{ping|Lejar|Asheiou}} [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 19:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC) :Thank you [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]], for starting this conversation. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 17:29, 16 June 2024 (UTC) ::Your welcome. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 19:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC) NOTE:Asheiou was granted preview status when they should not have been by {{ping|Bddpaux}} and made 1 review before the status was removed. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 21:07, 14 June 2024 (UTC) :I can say that in the one review I did, I found the issues highlighted by the pre-review useful for informing my review outcome. I agree with @[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] that pre-review just by its nature can never be used to assure the publishability of a piece, but it can be used to point out things to work on. :My continued hesitancy with pre-review is that all the time spent pre-reviewing could be spent fixing the article to a standard where it can be published. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 22:05, 14 June 2024 (UTC) ::"pre-review just by its nature can never be used to assure the publishability of a piece" - which is why the pre is there. "all the time spent pre-reviewing could be spent fixing the article to a standard where it can be published" - this actually brings up some other interesting questions. Can you pre-review your own article. Also, is can pre-reviewers pre-review an article they fixed up heavily, like I have done at [[IDF missile strikes UN school]] and [[Last civilian hospital closes in Darfur, Sudan]]? @[[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 22:08, 14 June 2024 (UTC) :::I don't think anyone can effectively review their own work, that's why we do peer-review. :::Pre-reviewing something you did lots of work on should be okay, because it's a *pre*-review. An uninvolved editor will still go through and work out any issues a pre-reviewer may have inadvertently introduced. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 22:17, 14 June 2024 (UTC) ::::"I don't think anyone can effectively review their own work" and "Pre-reviewing something you did lots of work on should be okay," are sort of contradictory, as if you did a lot of work on it you are kind of reviewing (partially) your own work.@[[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 22:36, 14 June 2024 (UTC) :::::{{color|#8fbc8f|[A]ll the time spent pre-reviewing could be spent fixing the article}} I agree with the general principle. However, a reviewer is limited to how involved they can be in producing an article. There are bright lines such as adding sources that disqualify a reviewer.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:Missing_New_York_City_chef_Andrea_Zamperoni_found_dead#Edits] I think pre-reviews are most valuable when they are done in the context of an actual review. Therefore any recommendation to not publish should mirror why the same article would otherwise fail review, such as [[WN:Source]] problems, extensive copyright problems, etc. :::::[[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]], you raised that point before and after reading and agreeing with it, I updated the [[Template:Pre-review|template's documentation]] by recommending pre-reviewers first "Perform any desired edits to the article to help improve it..." The ultimate goal of a pre-review is to get articles published easily and quickly and therefore correcting as many problems as possible before review is helpful. Maybe I should update the proposed policy (that could also just become a guideline) to reflect that, because it is a very good point. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 17:24, 16 June 2024 (UTC) :::::”I should update the proposed policy” - Please don’t until we can reach a consensus, just so that we have a thing that exists (and stays the same) that we can propose changes to and then make only changes we agree on. {{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 19:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC) ::::::I also meant to add that pre-reviewing one's own work goes against the spirit of peer review, in my opinion. Authors often read their own words as they intended, not as others might interpret them. An uninvolved reviewer is more likely to spot errors. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 17:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC) ::"all the time spent pre-reviewing could be spent fixing the article to a standard where it can be published" - by this logic, provided there is another reviewer who could review, reviewers shouldn't give not ready reviews, just fix it. And yet they do.@[[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 22:49, 14 June 2024 (UTC) :::There's no guarantee that another reviewer will actually be available or willing to review something. Not ready reviews given out by actual reviewers are essential to ensure that reviewers don't lock themselves out of reviewing. The difference with pre-review is that a pre-reviewer has no ability to actually publish a piece, so their ready assessment isn't binding. The roles are different. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 23:08, 14 June 2024 (UTC) ::::"There's no guarantee that another reviewer will actually be available or willing to review something" - there are certain times you can be reasonably certain. Again, I think that whether or not pre-reviewers can lock themselves out of pre-reviewing does make a difference here and a large one. The other value of a not ready review is if the pre-reviewer doesn't have the time, interest, expertise, to fix it. As well, some choices can be up to the author (problem X can be solved by Y or Z). Furthermore, a not ready review allows the pre-reviewer to give recommendations to the author and reviewer, allowing the reviewer to check if the issue was fixed quickly rather than needing to find it. As well, part of pre-review is to help users gain experience with reviewing, and for reviewers to know how well a job they did. @[[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 23:16, 14 June 2024 (UTC) :::::I agree. The pre-review process benefits everyone: reviewers, reporters, and potential reviewers. For example, it helps identify uncertain issues. By using {{tl|pre-review}}, questions can be raised, and observing how reviewers address them provides valuable feedback. This helps reporters avoid future issues and allows reviewers to understand pre-reviewers' capabilities. Ideally, the original author can address potential issues before review, making the reviewer's job easier and faster and hopefully lead to more published articles. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 17:28, 16 June 2024 (UTC) :I was persuaded by Michael.C.Wright's comment [[Special:Diff/4783865|above]] that this could be a good thing. I looked to poke holes in it and it seems like a solid proposal, mostly. But I would prefer pre-reviewers to need to be a MediaWiki user group with formal approval, on further thought. That's the only way I can see to guard against situations where people completely ignorant of what they're talking about, even if well-meaning, give schlocky pre-reviews, reporters don't know that the advice is inaccurate or incomplete, and experienced users have to go in and explain what the pre-reviewer got wrong. Whereas if pre-reviewers are required to have at least some experience, they're less likely to give poor advice and cause further trouble, and if they do that &mdash; which they probably would, sometimes &mdash; there's a lot less they need to be corrected on. I think they shouldn't be able to pre-review articles they'd worked on significantly (judged by the same standards as for reviewers), for the reasons stated above of leaving choices up to the reporter and of the benefit of peer review, and also because reporters, to the extent possible, should learn by doing of having to fix problems with their articles. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 06:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC) ::" I would prefer pre-reviewers to need to be a MediaWiki user group with formal approval" I think that would be a bit difficult (anyone, please contradict me if I'm wrong) to get for 1 relatively inactive site. "the only way I can see to guard against situations where people completely ignorant of what they're talking about, even if well-meaning, give schlocky pre-reviews" - I think my idea of 5 articles including 1 in the last month and autoconfirmation, as well as a small bit of admin discretion (or however would give this should we make it more formalized). ::I completely agree with you. I would say that it is optimal to have a formalized group, however it would not be by community consensus (as those are so hard to get around here), just the granting admin. Here is something else. So far, both of our pre-reviewers have made minimal errors, none of which caused too much damage. Allowing any autoconfirmed user to pre-review (which would through a bit of estimation be around 140,000 users or so) would result in the vast majority of pre-reviewers having no idea what they are doing. No pre-review would be better than this.@[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]]@[[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 10:07, 20 June 2024 (UTC) === After 1 week === After 1 week, here's what we have agreed on: # Unanimous consensus that a pre-review process should exist in some form # Unanimous consensus that pre-reviewers should be able give a recommend publish review # Unanimous consensus that pre-reviewers may not pre-review they're own articles. # Unanimous consensus that pre-reviewers must be auto-confirmed or confirmed Here's what we have a disagreement on: # Can Pre-Reviewers give out Not-Ready pre-reviews? # Can Pre-Reviewers pre-review an article they have worked heavily on? # Should there be other requirements for pre-reviewer (other than confirmed/autoconfirmed) and if so what should they be? # Should Pre-Reviewer be a formalized group? From this point forwards, pre-reviewers should follow the 4 statements above that we have agreed to. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 11:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Heavy Water]] said {{color|#8fbc8f|But I would prefer pre-reviewers to need to be a MediaWiki user group with formal approval, on further thought.}} How do we make that group—who would we task to do so, an admin? If we are making a new group of pre-reviewers, should we attach 'patroller' privileges to that new group? See also: [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy/archives/2024/April#Additional_Checkusers_and_maybe_patrollers]] Patrolling new pages seems like a good fit for "pre-reviewers." [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 14:23, 22 June 2024 (UTC) ::Below are my responses to the open items listed above: ::# Can Pre-Reviewers give out Not-Ready pre-reviews? ::#* I think a pre-reviewer's ability to recommend in both directions (publish/not ready) is vital. ::# Can Pre-Reviewers pre-review an article they have worked heavily on? ::#* I think a pre-reviewer, as a peer reviewer, must maintain distance just as a reviewer must. ::# Should there be other requirements for pre-reviewer (other than confirmed/autoconfirmed) and if so what should they be? ::#* We should make it very easy to give (and remove) pre-reviewer privileges. Otherwise we ultimately make it harder to give reviewer privileges. Therefore, in my opinion, fewer requirements are likely better than more. ::# Should Pre-Reviewer be a formalized group? ::#* I feel like it adds a hurdle to require a collective decision to allow one to pre-review an article. But I see the potential damage a poor review can do. I (grudgingly) agree a formalized group would mitigate that risk. ::#* {{question}} Should all pre-reviews stop now that we are converging on consensus in favor of a formalized group? ::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 14:39, 22 June 2024 (UTC) :::"Should all pre-reviews stop now that we are converging on consensus in favor of a formalized group" - No. A few reasons: :::1.Further pre-reviews are still providing benefit :::2.More pre-reviews means more of a "sample" to know how well pre-review works :::3.I believe that no one has suggested guidelines/requirements that any current pre-reviewer does not meet :::Patroller actually seems like a great idea to add to the "pre-review package". I agree that fewer requirements is better. I'll explain why I think the 3 I gave are needed though. :::Autoconfirmed:To allow them to be able to move the page, which sometimes '''does''' need to be done. Not a huge detail...but considered other requirements they'll probably have it anyways :::5 articles:So that they will actually have knowledge about WikiNews. You can teach what you don't know yourself. :::1 article in the past month:So that we only get people who are semi-active as pre-reviewers. Also to avoid someone who hasn't been here in 10 years getting pre-review and also probably not knowing what they're doing. And, of course, there are some people who could have gotten 5 articles even before peer-review was made. Keep in mind that we '''do''' have "rare cases" in there, and our admins can use common sense. :::Here is actually another question:When review permissions are removed through PEP, are they automatically a pre-reviewer? Is there PEP for pre-reviewers? :::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 10:27, 23 June 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Cromium|Cromium]] as you have conducted the vast majority of reviews after a pre-review, do you have an opinion? [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 01:09, 28 June 2024 (UTC) :I'm just reading this and I don't understand why pre-review even exists as a separate category. I can always edit an article and leave a message on talk page. Why does it have to be marked as 'pre-review'? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:49, 21 August 2024 (UTC) ::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] is honestly better at explaining it than I am, but basically pre-review has more goals than that which leaving a message or editing won't fulfill: ::1.'''Improve the chances of the article passing review'''. Editing and talk page messages will help here, but a pre-review is more formalized in that the pre-reviewer approaches it like how one would review an article. This means that they will (hopefully) bring up '''everything''' needing fixing on the article, and will also pass any part (or everything) they think is already ready to be published. As well, a pre-review with all sections passed is more likely to, indeed, be passable, and would be (theoretically) reviewed first, since its more likely to be passed. ::2.'''Identify good reviewer candiates''':If someone consistently leaves good pre-reviews, then I can be reasonably confident that they will leave good reviews as well (as ultimately the main difference between pre-review and reviewer is that the pre-reviewer can't actually pass/fail the article). Also, if someone consistently leaves bad pre-reviews (outside of maybe asking them to not pre-review or teaching them), they are probably not a good reviewer candidate. ::3.'''Prioritize reviewer time''':There is virtually always tons good articles going stale due to lack of reviewers (as I side note, @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], I think you're a reviewer, could you review something?). If something was passed in pre-review it is more likely to actually pass review, and as such should be reviewed first (as the goal is to get the most publishable stuff published), and something failing pre-review should be reviewed later because it is much less likely to actually be passable. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 10:49, 21 August 2024 (UTC) :::This looks like a set of things that a talk page comment would do. It was explained that the difference is that a pre rreview can include an assessment of "everything", well a talk page comment can too and it can also include a note "I think this is ready to pass a full proper review". :::On my user page there is a note about an utility that delivers notifications to users about new drafts, or new published stories, in categories of interest. It was running for a few months and then stopped. Please advise if you would like to help me maintain it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:00, 22 August 2024 (UTC) ::::I believe what we really need is to maintain a steady output of published content. We've gone almost two full months now without a published article. It would really help if some reviewers re-engaged and reviewed some articles and sighted changes in the review queue. If we are unable to consistently publish news articles, I believe the project will qualify for being merged with another project (Wikipedia) or archived as part of the Procedure for Sibling Project Lifecycle, if/when it becomes active.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2024/May] ::::Regarding the pre-review template, it's primarily meant to groom and identify potential, new reviewers. The intention is that in completing all the fields of the template, pre-reviewers systematically evaluate an article against the writing pillars. The template also produces a consistently formatted response that authors and reviewers both can quickly read and understand once they are familiar with it. In short, the {{tl|pre-review}} is merely a comment on the talk page that is at least consistently formatted. The hope is that reviewers can identify users who are interested in becoming a reviewer and who have demonstrated potential through pre-reviews. The status quo is not working. We need to come up with a way to increase the number of active reviewers. ::::All three of the current article in the review queue have been pre-reviewed. You can take a look at them to see working examples of the results. I would say that in each case, the pre-review has provided useful feedback—useful to both the author and the reviewer. The output conveys feedback in an easily understood format and in many cases already, has resulted in corrections that would otherwise result in a failed review. There has been one article published after it "passed" a pre-review. [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin_threatens_to_give_allies_weapons_to_attack_West] ::::We also need an admin's assistance with the license upgrade project.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy#Non-admin_or_non-bureaucrat_closure?] We've been trying to get assistance with that project for several weeks.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews_talk:Copyright#Pages_to_update_when_license_is_updated_from_2.5_to_4.0] We've done all the work we can without admin assistance and are now ready to ask Meta for outside assistance if we can't get local help. We've recently, as a project, chosen to become a global sysop wiki to get outside help with admin tasks such as speedy deletions and vandalism, because we don't have enough active admins to support day-to-day maintenance. I believe the project is circling the drain and is in serious need of re-engagement by reviewers and admins. The project fails at its core mission without them. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 15:11, 22 August 2024 (UTC) :::::Thanks for the note. By my view pre reviews can be done by anyone. It would probably not misused for the next century or two while this is a small wiki. If it becomes misused and blocks do not help then maybe making a user right for it could make sense. :::::I didn't realize the gravity of the situation about two months with zero published articles. I have commitments for my health and family that prevent me from reviewing major stories. I usually do not and did not review stories on US politics. By the time I realized what their two major parties were I would already start thinking that this is deeply irrelevant to my existence (I am on a completely different continent). I can alleviate this situation by checking other submissions and by becoming more active as an author. :::::In my opinion it helps to also connect with contributors and reviewers through video chat and in person, then activity and collaboration may rapidly increase. I tried this on a Linux related group and it worked on multiple occasions. Having a stronger connection with another member of the group helped keep it prolific and inclusive. I can connect on matrix, sip, bigbluebutton, etc. My timezone is around utc+10. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:08, 23 August 2024 (UTC) ::::::(Side note, on my user page it says my IRC nick, I would think email and irc would be first point of contact for admin help before Meta. I check itc every hour and email about 3 times a week. Other reviewers and admins may have some other contacts on their user pages.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:34, 23 August 2024 (UTC) :::::About admin work I am surprised the software does not have a button to send email to all admins. I was not even aware of any of these tasks or globalsysop changes mentioned. It would have been nice if I was notified by email. I will try to check what needs to be done within next two days when I am back home and at my desktop. (I appreciate you writing abour them here now.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:11, 23 August 2024 (UTC) ::::::I checked and ::::::*there is no clear description of differences between the licenses. I asked about it within that discussion. ::::::*I did not understand why a change is needed, Wikimedia movement mission is to create freely licensed content and the current licence is free enough by their definition. This is my opinion. Consensus may be different. ::::::*The voting section name was changed in middle of vote, perhaps another vote needs to occur here for the sake of clarity. I will need to read more thoroughly to understand whether this is needed. It is Friday evening and I am usually away on weekends but I will try to peioritise this. ::::::*This is about licence change. It does not resolve question about articles publishing activity. We don't even have a WN:AAA-like page for reviewers...? More on this later. ::::::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:39, 23 August 2024 (UTC) :::::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] you are commenting on a section about pre-review, not the license change. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 21:48, 23 August 2024 (UTC) ::::::::Thanks @[[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]]. You are welcome to move my comment, otherwise I will do it in a few days when I am on my desktop. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:25, 25 August 2024 (UTC) :There are many otherwise decent articles that are sitting in [[WN:ABAND]] because there wasn't any reviewer resource available in a timely manner. Flagged revisions was a policy enacted on Wikinews originally to satisfy a requirement for Google News syndication, but many years later I'm not sure such a policy is still sustainable. Instead of trying to create additional process, have we put thought into replacing the reviewer process with this lighter format entirely? [[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]] ([[User talk:Microchip08|talk]]) 10:56, 29 August 2024 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]] thank you for the notes, A few points ::* I think it would be lighter if everyonne just agreed to write about my country and nothing else. I am poor at processing information about other places. ::* Whatever is done, in my personal view the 5Ws in first paragraph is still a requirement. Would you agree? ::* I can check the 5Ws were answered correctly, but if it is outside of my country or topic, I get stuck on verifying the second paragraph. ::* Please review something now if you can, or have a look. Does it feel to you in the same way? That you can easily review first paragraph, but if topic is boring, you lack motivation to proceed? Or what is it that prevents you from completing a review? ::Thanks, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:06, 29 August 2024 (UTC) :::As a side note, one thing that tended to help me, and still does, is having someone available in real time when I am editing or reviewing. On wiki communication is good and transparent but is not real time. Even IRC level real time is nuts compared to a audio chat. (I am not suggesting audio chat for here; this is observation from elsewhere.) There were a few reviewers on irc, but now there is only one. This complicates things a bit. Another thing that complicates communication is slow typing on irc (rare, but happens). Thought it is best to share this here before I forget it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:56, 29 August 2024 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] "it would be lighter if everyonne just agreed to write about my country and nothing else" - I don't really think thats a reasonable request. :::I would agree with the second. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 12:17, 29 August 2024 (UTC) ::::I didn't mean it as serious suggestion at time of writing. If seriously, I will reword it. It would be nice if there were one or two contributors who like to write about the topics that I like to review. Still thinking on that one, it was a bit of brainstorming... [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:59, 30 August 2024 (UTC) ::Ultimately, (my understanding is that) Wikinews was at one point on needing reviews for every article publishing a bunch of articles. That was because there were active reviewers. There are currently no reviewers who are active long-term, and haven't been in a long time. We need more active reviewers. However light you make a requirement, there is no point if there is no one to assess it. ::What we need is more active reviewers. So, '''any user who feels they are ready to become a reviewer, please nominate yourself'''. That is the only way this problem will be fixed. @[[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]] @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 12:22, 29 August 2024 (UTC) :::The other way we can fix this is by removing the concept of formal review. The current approach is unique to Wikinews and significantly diverges from the way other Wikimedia projects approach [[m:the wiki way|the wiki way]]. Do we still believe the benefits of formal review outweighs the costs? It's difficult to recruit and retain reviewers if new contributors get their contributions staled out through no fault of their own, and people not reviewing quickly enough has been a problem for as long as I can remember. [[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]] ([[User talk:Microchip08|talk]]) 12:34, 29 August 2024 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]] were you around when review didn't exist? Was anyone here around then? If so, do you think it was better? [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 21:03, 29 August 2024 (UTC) ::::Could the call for reviewers be put as a site notice or what was it called, at top of every page. Link to page that says "1. read CG and SG, 2. write five articles at the rate of one every three days and rejoice if one is published & use it as learning path, 3. edit others' drafts for a month to assist in preparing them to be publish ready 4. apply to be reviewer" ...? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:17, 29 August 2024 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] you can edit [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] if you wish. I would also advise that message I think you can't seriously learn to be a reviewer in 4/6 weeks, nor is reviewer based of how many articles you make/improve nor the time you have been here for. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 23:52, 29 August 2024 (UTC) ::::::It was meant as a wider pool, then we can select. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:20, 1 September 2024 (UTC) :::::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], since it's a volunteer project, I don't think we should require a rate of writing articles such as X articles written every Y days. :::::::Besides, if we don't have the reviewers to review articles at that same rate, writers will watch their articles go stale, which can be very frustrating. Without having all of their articles reviewed, we won't have good data on which to judge their understanding of what it takes to publish a good article. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 14:29, 1 September 2024 (UTC) ::::::::I didn't mean the timing as a requirement, only as a guide to reduce risk of frustration with 'I thought I could get this all done in a day' from new participants who think that writing a story takes 10 minutes and no further work required. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:37, 1 September 2024 (UTC) ::::Who qualifies based on these? Wrote two or three articles which were successfully published, made 100+ edits in mainspace, is not a reviewer yet? Is there a list. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:30, 29 August 2024 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] I think that is way too low for reviewer...but some users who have made two/three published articles in the past year include and 100+ mainspace edits include myself, @[[User:Asheiou|Asheiou]], @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (currently nominated for reviewer), @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], and @[[User:Виктор Пинчук|Виктор Пинчук]]. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 23:55, 29 August 2024 (UTC) ::::::Can you possibly leave each of them a message on talk page and ask whether they would like to nominate as reviewer? Ask to include preferred region(s) and topic(s) of interest in the application, and whether they can do one review a fortnight within their preferred topic area. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:55, 30 August 2024 (UTC) :::::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] Michael.C.Wright is nominated for reviewer, BigKrow has told me they have now wish to be one...Виктор Пинчук exclusively makes OR about stuff they do so I doubt they want to be one either...Asheiou has nominated themselves with no consensus...and as for myself would you really think that I am ready to be reviewer? [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 12:51, 30 August 2024 (UTC) ::::::(You can link them to this discussion. I would ask myself, just late Friday evening,I am away on weekend, and if you can assist maybe we can get a reply sooner. Otherwise, I will message them a bit later in the week. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC) ::::::Maybe also Kitabc12345 ::::::(This "reply" feature loses data half of the time I "paste" something into the textbox, and has ibadequate zoom on smartphone screen about 85% of the time, so annoying) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:08, 30 August 2024 (UTC) ::::::Could you please also check the same for last five years, if it is not too much trouble, it would be legendary invaluable to know? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:09, 30 August 2024 (UTC) :::::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] Kitabc12345 doesnt have 2/3 published articles. Ill check the last 2 for you as anyone before that has been inactive so long that if they were a reviewer theyd qualify for PEP, ie.they have probably forgotten a lot. @[[User:CSJJ104|CSJJ104]], @[[User:JML1148|JML1148]], @[[User:Renamed user 2du13u4u8h|Renamed user 2du13u4u8h]], @[[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] and @[[User:Moondragon21|Moondragon21]] would be included by 2 years. Possibly more im nowhere near done yet. :::::::However, other than Asheiou and maybe DarkFrog 24 if they were more active, I think all of these people aren't a great fit for being a reviewer. Writing 2-3 articles in 2 years is way too low a requirement. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 14:51, 30 August 2024 (UTC) ::::::::Also @[[User:DRC-B5|DRC-B5]] but I'm done now...clearly none of these would ever gain consensus to be reviewer unless they do more stuff so.... [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 15:20, 30 August 2024 (UTC) ::::::::As one of the people pinged here (who has not created an article for over 18 months) it would be ridiculous for me to technically be eligible to be reviewer. Perhaps a 6-month threshold would make more sense. [[User:JML1148|JML1148]] ([[User talk:JML1148|talk]]) 09:48, 2 September 2024 (UTC) ====Proposed alternative to pre-review process==== Pre-review process? I have two concerns. 1) Does the English Wikinews have enough people who are active enough that adding ''another'' step to article publication would be viable? When I was active here, it was normal for perfectly good articles to age out of [[WN:FRESH]] for no reason but that the reviewers didn't get around to reviewing them. The problem was not that the drafts had too many problems; it was that there weren't enough reviewer-hours to get them through the pipeline. Has that changed? 2) Was there some issue, like with the Gatwick article, where an article was published too quickly and there was some form of consequence? In other words, does the English Wikinews have a problem that a pre-review process would solve? Because if the answer to both of these is "no," then I'd have to tell you to change the above to "not unanimous." [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 16:05, 30 August 2024 (UTC) <small>Readded after third party's apparent misunderstanding over identity. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 20:08, 30 August 2024 (UTC)</small> :You make a good point. To clarify; pre-review is not meant to be a requirement, an extra step to publication, or something reviewers do. Hopefully this clarifies a bit; pre-review is meant to ''eventually'' take some load off the reviewers by allowing trusted pre-reviewers to do some of the leg-work for them, should they volunteer to do so. For example; if I have established that I consistently give good advice in a pre-review, a reviewer could spend less time on an article I have pre-reviewed and more time on another that needs more attention. This saves reviewer-hours, which we don't have enough of, as you rightly pointed out. If there are two articles in the review queue and I as a trusted pre-reviewer have already worked with the author to correct identified problems and I recommend publishing the article, a reviewer could do a quicker/shorter evaluation of that article, maybe to ensure all facts are sourced and accurate, there is no bias of omission, etc. They can skip less-critical (but still important) things like looking for style and format issues, trusting that they were corrected in the pre-review process either directly by the pre-reviewer or afterwords by the original author. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 20:53, 30 August 2024 (UTC) :In addition to @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]'s comments above, there are some other uses for pre-reviews. For example, if article X has issue Y that the reviewer couldn't solve without becoming involved, then the pre-reviewer can bring that up to the author, who will hopefully fix it before a review, thus reducing the chance that it goes stale/needs 2 reviews. As well, if you 2 articles in a review queue, one that passed pre-review and one that failed, and you trust the pre-reviewer, and you only have time to review 1, you would review the one that passed as its much more likely to actually be publishable. @[[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 21:42, 30 August 2024 (UTC) ::Okay, that's more or less what I thought. I think this makes everything too complicated. The minute the Wikinewsie who wrote the first draft hits "submit," the article ''immediately'' belongs to all of Wikinews. Anyone may edit it for any reason (and I have). Anyone may hit the review button and submit it to the reviewers. The reviewer only needs to see what the article looks like at the time it is submitted, not who made which edit. We don't need to ''create'' a pre-review system because we created one long ago. Perhaps Wikinews could benefit from people doing it more. I also think creating an official status could exacerbate unhealthy social patterns that I witnessed during my years of heavy activity here. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 23:53, 30 August 2024 (UTC) :::So I guess my answers to Gryllida's second set of questions are... :::1) No, pre-reviewers should not give articles not-ready status. :::2) Yes, pre-reviewers should indeed feel free to do more work more on articles that they have already worked heavily on. :::3) No, there should be no requirements for pre-reviewership. This is partially because the community is small enough that reviewers can learn which other users they do and don't trust and partially because the kinds of skills we would require (professional-level English mechanics, etc.) are very difficult to assess by consensus. People tend to be annoyed when other people correct rule-based things like grammar, punctuation, flow of fact, and adherence to posted site guidelines and policies, but that's exactly what we want Wikinewsies to do before formal review. :::4) No, this should not be a formalized group. Wikinewsies should jump in and edit articles whether they drafted them or someone else did, so long as there is no "edit in process" tag active. Whether drafters should be able to control who works on the draft, say, to request request no further edits before review, is a separate issue. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 20:28, 31 August 2024 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]], yes any Wikinewsie can edit the article. Pre-review is a much more through process. The pre-reviewer is essentially suppossed to act like a reviewer in that they should fully look through everything, and then on the talk page post to the author what they did right and wrong. Done correctly, this can be very helpful for the author to learn. As well, the pre-reviewer can learn what they did right/wrong by comparing it to the actual review and hence learn how to review. As well, if someone consistently makes good pre-reviews then that is a great way to know if there a good reviewer candidate. ::::This can't be accomplished by everyday editing. The ability to give not-ready status and not being able to pre-review work they have made or heavily worked on is so that it is as best "practice" as it can be for actual review. The requirements and formalized group idea is mostly to prevent wrong or misleading advice, which, particularly when there may not be any other experienced user around to contradict them, can create problems. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 01:25, 1 September 2024 (UTC) :::::That does not sound good to me. "Help the author learn"/"what they did right/wrong" presupposes that the reviewers/pre-reviewers are always or almost always right about what the drafter should do. That has not been my experience here on Wikinews. Wikinews is better off educating new users through published sources and formally established policies and guidelines. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 18:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC) ::::::@[[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] yes, that is the point of requirement for pre-reviewer, the hope that they are "almost always right about what the drafter should do". Fact is, reading every policy (or all the ones about article writing) is not something more first time contributors do. As well, there is a difference between saying "read the style guide" vs. "X over here is an issue with part Y of the style guide. You might want to consider changing it to Z". [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 18:42, 1 September 2024 (UTC) :::::::I think we're on the same page about what the proposal is. In the interests of not dredging up old business (which could be bad habits long broken at this point), I'll leave you with "thanks." [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 18:50, 1 September 2024 (UTC) ::::::::@[[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]], what would you suggest instead? That's not meant to be snarky but an honest question. What do you think would be a good way to work with potential reviewers in a way that allows them to learn, practice, and demonstrate ability? The ultimate goal is to achieve more active reviewers. ::::::::If you can't think of a completely different solution, what would it take for you to feel more comfortable with the effectiveness of a pre-review process (aside from not making it a formal group, which I tend to agree with you on[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews_talk:Pre-Reviewing])?—[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 14:04, 3 September 2024 (UTC) :::::::::I do have an idea that I think might work, but in the interest of not making assumptions, what exactly is the problem? What is the proposed pre-review system supposed to solve? When I was most active here, our biggest issues were poor new user retention, publishable drafts aging out for lack of review, and interpersonal conflicts. Any of those things might have changed since then, and even at the time, not everyone agreed about what was happening or what was causing it. Before I share an opinion that could upset some people, let's make sure it's an opinion on what people should do now, not what people should have done years ago. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 15:35, 3 September 2024 (UTC) ::::::::::@[[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] There is 1 problem that I think myself, @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] and any other reasonable active user would agree on...we are not an actual news site. That's it what pre-review is meant to solve. We have had not 1 but 2 gaps of no articles being published for 2 months this year alone. This year we have published an article every 5 days, but excluding 2 small outlier periods brings that number to 10. I personally don't feel that interpersonal conflicts are that huge of an issue (partly because theres rarely enough persons to have them). The issue of bad new user retention is (in my opinion) because of perfectly good articles going stale. I know that I was very close to quitting the project because of that and I know of at least 1 user who produced a bunch of articles, some which probably would have passed review, none of which got reviews, and I'm pretty sure they quit. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 17:03, 3 September 2024 (UTC) :::::::::::Okay... This is the short, short version of my solution. I can get into more detail if necessary: Forget pre-review and '''increase the number of reviewers'''. :::::::::::1) Instead of inventing a new intermediate status, just increase the number of reviewers. Don't require the individual reviewer to apply. Either let anyone nominate or make it automatic after the drafting of X number of published articles, X number of months of activity, or both. '''Accept''' that different reviewers will have different interpretations of site policies and guidelines. '''Accept''' that our unofficial leadership will have less control of what does and does not get published and that the writing style will appear less uniform. '''Accept''' that reviewers can and will be wrong once in the while or even a lot. :::::::::::2) Reviewers should divide review into two categories: A) Necessary changes (will not publish unless these changes are made) and B) All other changes (the reviewer thinks they would improve the draft but will publish the article even if the changes are not made). Items in category A should be limited to things required by formally published site policy only. Reviewers should draw these distinctions proactively; they should not wait for the drafter to ask. :::::::::::I personally think losing the idea that reviewers are teachers and drafters are learners would help retention. I can get into why if necessary, but it might be a separate issue. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 18:02, 3 September 2024 (UTC) ::::::::::::@[[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] Anyone can nominate anyone (with an account) already, but the nominee must accept (which I think is a must). I think that simply making many published articles or lengthy activity is not a good candidate for reviewer. There is a user on this site (no I will not say who) who would meet any reasonable criteria based on published articles/length of activity who has never worked on any elses articles before and all of their articles are essentially self-promotion. I am not the onlyone who thinks this, at least 3 reviewers have said they will not pass their articles anymore. I do not think they would make a good reviewer. This is the problem, '''reviewer is a position of high trust, and meeting those requirements does not indicate trust. Reviewer requires knowledge not neccessarily gained through length of activity or published article count, nor neccessary not having by not meeting some number'''. ::::::::::::I would agree the second one, however I personally have not seen an instance where an article has been held back over category 2 of yours, so... ::::::::::::I think that if our most expereinced users don't teach people, then how will new users come to be familiar with the site and know our rules? Also, I can fix someone's article for them every time, or teach them once what to do and they will do it themselves. Which is better? [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 18:20, 3 September 2024 (UTC) :::::::::::::Whether you think of it as trust, conformity or control, accept less trust/conformity/control. That is part of my proposal. :::::::::::::Only one user? My reflex is to call that workable, but let's go without dismissing your concerns. What if... What if instead of X published articles it was X published articles with zero category-A changes? [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 19:50, 3 September 2024 (UTC) {{outdent|13}}At a macro level, the review process focuses on the [[WN:Pillars]] and at a micro level there are many considerations within each of the pillars.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Reviewing_articles#Checklist] @[[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]], how would you classify the review process into your A and B categories mentioned above? When I look at the review checklist I generated[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Michael.C.Wright/review-checklist] from an archived discussion[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy/archives/2010/February#c-Brian_McNeil-2010-02-02T18:56:00.000Z-How_to_peer-review] of the then-new review process, I do see things that are already, implicitly like your B category. For example, reviewers that I've worked with don't make a big fuss about image descriptions contributing to the article and I've seen many articles published with the sources ordered incorrectly according to [[WN:Style]]. Another question; do you think a relaxed peer-review system like the one you presented is enough to maintain our uniqueness from Wikipedia? One of the concerns is that Sibling Project Lifecycle[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2024/May] could be used to justify a merge of our project with Wikipedia. Wikipedia already covers news events and is able to get content published immediately and already has a tremendous advantage over Wikinews in terms of page-views. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 13:42, 4 September 2024 (UTC) :If the reviewer(s) cannot link to a published, official, extant site policy or guideline if asked, then it's not category A, no matter how important it seems or how much better the article would be. If we need a guideline, we write and publish it for use going forward. If an extant guideline is not necessary or out of date, we change it or mark it historical. :I note in your link that Brian M is listing what ''he does himself'', not what he commands other people do, so the issue of reviewers justifying their orders does not apply. :"Relaxed" is not the word I would use. I think "[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Procedure_for_Sibling_Project_Lifecycle#Closing_projects Severe lack of community activity]" is higher up on our {{w|hierarchy of need}}. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 14:12, 4 September 2024 (UTC) ::Just to make sure I understand what you are saying; you believe 1) the review process is too stringent and that is causing the problem of too few active reviewers and 2) more reviewers plus acceptance of less control by reviewers, acceptance of a less-stringent reviewing process, and acceptance of more errors, possibly even corrections and/or retractions will increase community activity. Is that correct? ::Again, that isn't meant to be snarky or a jab. I'm trying to ensure I understand what you are proposing. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 15:32, 4 September 2024 (UTC) :::They're fair questions, MCW. 1) No, I don't think of the review process as stringent, not in either a positive or negative way. 2) I suppose it stands to reason that there would be more errors as a side effect, but "we must not have errors or retractions" is not why the review process has problems, or at least not why it did in my most active years here. :::''One'' of the problems with the review process as I knew it is that back-and-forth between reviewer and drafter slows things down. Both parties are volunteers and don't necessarily check in more than once or twice per day. When I was most active, if a drafter either couldn't or did not want to make a reviewer's noted change, that drafter had to address it on the talk page and ''convince'' at least one reviewer that the suggestion/order/whatever was no go. I've had reviewers tell me to change correct English to incorrect. I've had reviewers tell me to add information that either did not exist or was not available in the kind of source we'd need. I've had reviewers tell me to add information that was otherwise fine but would have taken much, much more time and effort than I thought the addition was worth. In most of these cases, attempting to discuss the matter, whether I provided proof or not ("My verb usage is correct as-is; here's a link to Purdue Owl," "Yes, the word I used really does mean that; here's a link to a dictionary," "Scientists only just invented this thing this year, so no I can't add the retail price because it doesn't have one yet," "No I can't 'say what kind of black they are' of these specific Black Americans; here's a little history..."), was followed by considerable hostility and bad feelings. By allowing reviewers to put their I-think-this-would-be-cool-but-it's-not-required-by-policy ideas in a category, we give drafters facing reviewer commentary that they either can't do or don't feel like doing a third option other than a) convince the reviewer or b) abandon the article: c) '''quietly make no issue of it'''. :::I fully expect that, if we enacted A/B review, we might have to add, remove, or update a few policies. If you think something should be required, that's doable. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 01:21, 5 September 2024 (UTC) ::::When you explain it like that, it makes more sense to me. I was going to post here that it seems if reviewers just enforce policies and guidelines, we are not changing anything. But now I understand you are talking about something else, which I believe is ''editorializing'' by reviewers—or reviewers assuming the role of an editor in journalism.[https://www.nimcj.org/blog-detail/the-role-of-a-news-editor-and-editor.html] Would that be correct? [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 13:43, 5 September 2024 (UTC) :::::...I was kind of hoping you'd say, "I've never seen a reviewer order changes like those. Did that really happen?!" :::::Not exactly wrong, but closer to no than yes. We need to be careful with drawing parallels between Wikinews and paid/professional news organizations. On Wikinews, one becomes a reviewer by passing a request for reviewership. IRL, one becomes an editor through years of professional experience and often a journalism degree. If an editor does a bad job, either they're replaced or the news organization fails. Also, an editor may order a reporter to make changes that the reporter doesn't believe in because the reporter is paid in money. Here, our only payment is the satisfaction of a job well done. Another issue... If an employee does something, and it goes wrong, the employee ''does'' get to say "My supervisor told me to do it. I was just following orders." The last time I checked, ''nothing'' on Wikinews protects a drafter who makes a bad change just to be obedient, and seems likely that humoring a reviewer could look just like [[WN:POINT]]. :::::We're an all-volunteer, at least nominally amateur project, and we'll do better if we embrace that. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 17:50, 5 September 2024 (UTC) ::::::@[[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] if a reviewer does a bad job they will also be replaced. If you believe a change is wrong, discuss that with the reviewer. I think our reviewer are generally reasonable people. If you find a reviewer who is persistently demanding changes not supported by any reasonable policy and not providing reasonable justification for why they want said changes, then maybe ask for another reviewers opinion. ::::::I'm aware that oftentimes there is a second (or even a first) reviewer to ask, but I think that if we have enough reviewers, which we anyways need, this is how it could and should work. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 21:45, 10 September 2024 (UTC) :::::::None of the reviewers who left the change-correct-English-to-incorrect or say-what-kind-of-black-they-are type of reviews were replaced. I also had a guy who insisted that I'd misinterpreted the sources, but he hadn't read the sources (I'm not assuming this; he said he hadn't, and he did not do so when asked). He wasn't replaced. :::::::Even a reviewer who is competent 100% of the time will sometimes ask for non-required changes that the drafter just doesn't happen to want to do. Category B is for that as well. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 22:08, 10 September 2024 (UTC) ::::::::@[[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] a reviewer who reviewed an article without reading the sources (unless it was obviously stale or something) is well...a problem. Persistent behaviour of that type should lead to replacement. And requesting removal of permissions does exist as a last option... ::::::::In my experience, when a reviewer asks for non-required changes they will: ::::::::1.Improve the article in some way. ::::::::2.Not doing them will not result in them failing the review. ::::::::Is your experience of this different? [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 22:11, 10 September 2024 (UTC) :::::::::[[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance]] is available to discuss disagreements in a place where they don't get deleted with the article. "''Subscribe''" to that page to stay in the loop? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:58, 10 September 2024 (UTC) ::::::::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] this isn't a talk page...and I'd say a place asking for feedback about a process is a great place to discuss whether or not that process should exist and what other processes could replace it. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 00:05, 11 September 2024 (UTC) :::::::::Very different, yes. If things on Wikinews have improved since then, that would be good. Plenty of time has passed. That's why I asked what problem pre-review was meant to solve before commenting. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 02:27, 11 September 2024 (UTC) ::::::::::Well I've also only been here for a few months so...@[[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 02:33, 11 September 2024 (UTC) :::::::::::My experience was that my first year was relatively smooth because I was the new guy, and when people told me that I just didn't understand something, I believed them. After all, I was the new guy. I was also relatively obedient--because I was the new guy. After the first year, I knew enough that when a reviewer said "We always do things RED way, never BLUE way, tsk tsk tsk you should have ''known'' that," I could say, "We do too do things BLUE way. You approved two articles that did it BLUE way last week." We are better off acknowledging that reviewers differ from each other and from themselves over time, even short periods, and that that is okay. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 02:41, 11 September 2024 (UTC) ::::::::::::@[[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] I think that's fair...my question is that '''once you point that out, will reviewers still refuse to publish the article unless you do it the RED way or not? If so, do they provide a reasonable reason they have changed their opinion?''' [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 02:48, 11 September 2024 (UTC) :::::::::::::I feel past tense would be less misleading. Pointing it out resultED at the time in hostility/bad feelings/fights. If you're thinking "That article is RED because it has trait Y and this article is BLUE because it has trait X," then no, nothing like that. The reviewers just changed their minds a lot and either didn't know they were changing them or liked to pretend they didn't change them. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 03:16, 11 September 2024 (UTC) ::::::::::::::I can see that your block log is rather...extensive and your reviewier request also has 2 experienced users for what seems to be related to these disagrements...do you think its possible that in those cases you were wrong (or at least in some of them)? ::::::::::::::Regardless, I'm pretty sure that in your disagreements you seem to be in the minority, and ultimately this sites rules are based of consensus so...@[[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 10:47, 11 September 2024 (UTC) :::::::::::::::Legit question: Remember how I said that the reviewers often asked me to change correct English to incorrect? I was able to find either on-Wikinews or off-Wikinews sources that showed the English was already correct either every time or almost every time. So no, I don't think I was wrong. I checked. :::::::::::::::Going forward, we ''want'' Wikinews to draw and retain highly skilled writers, not only people who are still learning English. That means the drafter will know more than the reviewer does at least some of the time. If we demand that drafters pretend that reviewers are always right, then Wikinews will not retain skilled drafters. :::::::::::::::One reason the block lasted so long is that I didn't want to attempt unblock during the pandemic. I didn't want people who were mad at the virus to take it out on me instead. :::::::::::::::The more complicated answer is that there were a lot of multi-layered social undercurrents moving things around. One downside of creating a community is that sometimes people !vote based on who's their friend. I don't think it's realistic to say "The reviewers just shouldn't do that." I do think it's realistic to create an on-Wiki structure that allows the drafter to avoid situations in which one reviewer might feel obligated to support another for social reasons, saving both time and feelings. That's what this A/B system would do. :::::::::::::::Gryllida refers to water cooler/assistance, and Wikinews ''does'' need a robust conflict resolution system (it did not have one in my day), but this is for when confrontation is necessary, not when a drafter is trying to avoid confrontation or prevent the loss of time. In other words water cooler/assistance solves a problem, just not the same problem that the A/B system would solve. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 13:51, 11 September 2024 (UTC) ::::::::::::::::@[[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] At least from my experience at Wikinews, I would be extremely surprised to see a reviewer persistently insist on incorrect english if you have given an authoritative source to the contrary. If someone persistly insists on obviously incorrect english, you have cited something reliable showing they are wrong, and they are providing no explanation but refusing to publish the article over it...that's not good. If this is a habit of theirs, and they refuse to stop, that user should not be a reviewer. Requests for permissions removal do exist, and in a case like that I would consider it. However, I would say that a reviewer that unreasonable will probably not use your categories correctly... ::::::::::::::::"people who were mad at the virus to take it out on me instead" - That is patently ridiculuous. I can't seriously imagine anyone denying an unblock request because they are upset at a virus. "people !vote based on who's their friend" - As you mentioned, it is '''not a vote''', so if you have a bunch of people just saying "I agree with person X" they aren't actually adding anything consensus wise, or at least not on the same level as someone providing reasoning. And, yeah, voting fraud (which is essentially what your describing) is wrong. '''No one should say something they don't believe because someone else said it'''. I admittedly haven't seen this. What I have seen is reviewers publishing the articles of more experienced users even if they have some problem, when they wouldn't publish for a new user, saying after describing an issue (this is an actual quote from a review of one of my articles) "we'll let it slide through as a gesture of generosity and gratitude". I asked what the issue specifically was, so I could fix it, with no reply. I have also seen the freshness window extend for certain authors. I don't want to name names here, but '''This is unquestionably wrong. Wikinews is not a Quid Pro Quo system, and its time to stop acting like one.''' ::::::::::::::::What you are describing, and I'm certain that the other side of this would have a different perspective, is a severe problem with how our reviewers act. As I haven't seen this myself, I would appreciate some examples. What you are describing is something ludicrous and something that I have not personally seen, and I think that if you are correct, this could possibly neccessitate the removal of some of our reviewers. I would to see the original words of both parties here, because this is a pretty serious accusation for me to take at face value. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 23:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC) :::::::::::::::::It sounds like your experience on Wikinews has been very, very different from mine. That's good. Since your query does not directly concern this proposal, I will take it to your talk page. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 23:27, 11 September 2024 (UTC) == Take 2 at 'pre-review' == There was 'pre-review' implemented while reviewers were unavailable or lacking. I've found it a rather complicated change. It included following changes which I tried to spell out separately. Please let me know if I missed something. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:43, 11 September 2024 (UTC) === Template and category === Articles get tagged with 'pre-review needed' and then that changes somewhere, either to nothing or 'pre-review done', I don't remember. How does this banner displayed help? How does this banner, and categories, help compared with 'draft developing' vs 'draft developing and tagged with some issue (sources missing, stale, abandoned, not neutral, etc)? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:43, 11 September 2024 (UTC) * One point is that from 'developing/awaiting review' it goes to 'developing/awaiting review, pre-review succeeded' giving author (and possibly reviewer) some hope it can be an easy review. Is this a good thing? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:43, 11 September 2024 (UTC) ** Perhaps the same effect can be achieved by having a draft in review queue '''without''' it being marked as a trouble (sources missing, npov issues, style issues, content issues, etc). [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:43, 11 September 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] its a way for an author who particularly finds pre-reviews useful and wants a pre-review to specially request one (increasing the likelihood of quickly getting one). [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 02:34, 11 September 2024 (UTC) ::I created the category in hopes that eventually it could be used to get the attention of people who are willing to do pre-reviews, like MDW said above. The goal is to have the template add the category and then people interested in doing pre-reviews can see those articles listed in the category. I have not implemented the category with the template yet. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 15:31, 11 September 2024 (UTC) === Template for filling details of Full review by a non-Reviewer === I agree this is helpful, and having a checklist template provided for feedback is good. This merely requires the template and documentation to exist and not necessary to tag articles with categories or banners, and user rights are not required. If someone wants to use the template then they can use it. I do not mind. {{tl|pre-review}} [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:43, 11 September 2024 (UTC) :I agree that we should keep the whole pre-review as simple as possible for now, while we tune and test it as a possible means to identify new reviewers and lighten the load on existing reviewers. I think if more reviewers see useful pre-reviews, it will gain in popularity and function. I see a new pre-reviewer group as another bureaucratic hurdle and we already have a high degree of paralysis by analysis. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 15:35, 11 September 2024 (UTC) === Possibly separate user right or user group === Was this helpful? Was it needed? Are there issues if everyone can leave the 'pre-review' template on article talk? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:43, 11 September 2024 (UTC) :I am personally concenered about the potential of wrong/misleading pre-reviews. Particularly if no one else is around to contradict them, this can then convince more users of the wrong things, who then convince other users, etc....as well, do you really trust a firsttime editor to give essentially conduct a review (albeit they are unable to actually publish stories or remove them from the review queue), but as a new editor who had their first articles pre-reviewed, '''I wasn't checking policies to confirm what pre-reviewers were saying, and nor will most new users. They will take it at face value. It's important that this feedback is generally correct.''' @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 02:38, 11 September 2024 (UTC) ::Was inaccurate feedback without a 'it is my personal opinion, just a question' disclaimer an issue previously? I've not encountered it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:44, 11 September 2024 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] I haven't either. Then again, myself and @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] are the only users to have used pre-review, and neither of us used it when we first started. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 10:48, 11 September 2024 (UTC) :I think making this a formally established group would cause problems. We're better off encouraging the user base in general to make improvements to articles on which they were not the initial drafter. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 13:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC) ::::{{tq|Particularly if no one else is around to contradict them...}} Oftentimes there is indeed no one around to contradict them because we often have no active reviewers. It's a circular problem. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 15:39, 11 September 2024 (UTC) :::::I know...but misinformation about Wikinews spreading through pre-review is, in my opinion, a potentially huge issue. Indeed our policy is determined by consensus. If the new users who become the active users on the site believe that a different policy is actually our policy, and eventually they reach a position of something like reviewer, than '''that mistake has effectively changed the policy.''' @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 22:35, 11 September 2024 (UTC) ::::::I am assuming by misinformation you mean a different interpretation of what our policies are or how they are applied. In that context, what makes "our" policy more right than "their" policy? How is our current policy working to get quality articles published? {{tq|[E]ventually they reach a position of something like reviewer...}} If they reach a position like reviewer, what makes "them" less of a legitimate reviewer than current reviewers? ::::::If something works for active users, is not in agreement with our current policy, and it's good for Wikinews, then it fits [[WN:IAR]] and indicates the likely need for a policy update. ::::::Besides, I don't see much risk in a mad rush of new reviewers taking over the project. We're spending more time debating the removal of privileges from existing reviewers than we are adding new reviewers. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 00:28, 12 September 2024 (UTC) :::::::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] let's say I think that the freshness window for synthesis articles should be 2 weeks (or I mistakenly believe that to be the case). If I conduct pre-reviews, and now a bunch of new users believe that to be the case. Those users may eventually teach this to new users as well. Should one of these users become a reviewer (I agree this is a long term problem not one in the short term), they will now have the capability to publish articles. They will likely publish articles that are stale according to standards that the community has agreed on. :::::::I know that consensus can change, but the way to change consensus is not to pretend that it is already changed. That should be obvious. What makes "our" policy more right is that it is based of a community consensus, versus a user who mistakenly believes that the community has decided on something different then what they actually have. :::::::And by the way if you didn't notice, you're now a reviewer, so congratulations! [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 01:32, 12 September 2024 (UTC) === Potential to identify new reviewers === For this to truly work, I believe a log needs to be saved somewhere, where it is not deleted. E.g. at time of article deletion, script to note somewhere "Article created by: ...; edited by users: ...; article talk edited by users: ..." (in deletion summary or on a wiki page like Wikinews:ArticleEditLog). --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:43, 11 September 2024 (UTC) :Which new reviewers were identified? Which of them could have been identified just by reading talk pages of published articles and seeing meaningful collaboration and editing occur? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:03, 11 September 2024 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] well I think that a big part of my and other supports for @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]'s review request is pertaining to pre-review, but well...outside of them I am currently the only other user who has used the pre-review template. ::I think that its impossible to know the answer to "Which of them could have been identified just by reading talk pages of published articles and seeing meaningful collaboration and editing occur?" ::G [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 02:41, 11 September 2024 (UTC) :::A log is an interesting idea. And @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] and @[[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] are right that we don't need a template for users to leave constructive criticism or otherwise jump into an article and improve it. But the predictable and uniform output of the template encourages a bit more formality and uniformity in the way an article is evaluated—this is meant to help develop a habit of formally and uniformly evaluating multiple articles over time. Additionally, when authors consistently see evaluations against the five pillars repeated by both the pre-review and review systems, they will hopefully improve their writing by anticipating and preempting those pillars ''before'' asking for a review. Better-written articles are easier and quicker to review; which takes a load off preciously few reviewer-hours. My hope is for the template to go as far "up stream" as possible in order to fix the problem of too few reviewers. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 15:52, 11 September 2024 (UTC) ::::There was or is somewhat of a log before by issuing barnstars on user talk pages for a user's first, fifth, tenth successfully published article. There is probably something to put for enthusiastic editing or collaboration when the article got deleted eventually. This could be utilized as a tracking system (though it is currently manual; in English Wikipedia, a draft review is automatically leaving a message on usertalk. Is this desired here?) Then could have authors user talk pages with categories e.g. "published 5 articles" or "failrd 3 articles" etc. Same could be done with reviewers. It is not fully polished thought, if there is a specific idea what needs to be implemented then I can try to implement it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:02, 11 September 2024 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] I don't have the coding knowledge for this, but if someone would make a script that would log on the author's talk page when a review or pre-review is conducted, as well as an Wayback Machine link, that would be very useful. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 22:37, 11 September 2024 (UTC) ::::::Ok, ('''sub-topic: logging review actions and/or content for drafts'''), three options, 'at each review or pre-review' or 'at each review' or 'at article deletion'. What would be more comfortable to the author? They have current draft 'at each review or pre-review' anyway, the link would probably not be that useful to them personally. And can we/do we want to rely on WayBack Machine -- perhaps we can host our own infrastructure for just the archived text of the articles? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:46, 11 September 2024 (UTC) :::::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] I'd be fine with our own structure as well, in fact if possible I'd say that better. I think that, before any admin deletes something (outside of spam/vandalism with no potential interest to future visitors), they should the page in question. Ideally, the entire page history could be saved. :::::::Perhaps we should simply move the story. For example if a story "Person X does thing Y" goes stale and abandoned, instead of deletion it could be moved (maybe with suppressredirect) to Wikinews:Article Archives/2024/September/Person X does thing Y. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 00:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC) :I think if a drafter has X number of articles that pass through to review with no changes necessary (referring to necessary changes, not optional ones) within any period of Y months, then that person should be flagged for reviewer, possibly automatically. For example, if someone has X no-changes-needed articles but they're spread out over too long of a period, or if they're like me and haven't been active for a long time, then we wouldn't flag them for reviewer in this way. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 16:40, 16 September 2024 (UTC) ::Oooooh, and to ''stay'' a reviewer, said reviewer must be the initial drafter of at least Z published articles per calendar year. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 23:19, 16 September 2024 (UTC) == [[Wikinews:freshness]] of original reporting == [[Wikinews:freshness]] of original reporting is "Exclusive content has the potential to extend our freshness horizon by days or even weeks". How does this apply to the mpox story? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:35, 21 September 2024 (UTC) :It is my understanding that this is treated largely at the discretion of the reviewer and I think we need to explicitly codify or clarify it somehow. One of my chief complaints about the workings of en.WN is the idea of institutional knowledge as opposed to more-explicit policies and guidelines. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 14:41, 21 September 2024 (UTC) :I agree with MCW about a move toward more posted guidelines. :As for the monkeypox story, while we should make some accommodation for the idea that volunteer original journalism takes time, the questions "How likely is it that our readers have already seen similar information elsewhere?" and "Has this ceased to be relevant?" merit consideration. It's been a month and a week since August 14. 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[Flagged for npov issues by Gryllida at time of publishing. -->In response, Netanyahu’s office rejected the decision, calling it an expression of “{{w|antisemitism}}” in an official statement. Hamas, on the other hand, expressed support for the ICC's involvement. Several countries and organizations have voiced differing opinions on the matter. According to {{w|Josep Borrell}}, the European Union's {{w|High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy|foreign policy chief}}, the ICC's decision is binding on all member states of the {{w|European Union}}. Non-member states like the U.S. reject the court, but several signatory states, including {{w|France}}, {{w|Italy}} and the {{w|Netherlands}}, have expressed their intention to follow ICC rules. The ICC’s decision has turned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and others into internationally wanted suspects, exposing them to potential arrest during foreign travel. According to the Pre-Trial Chamber of the ICC, Netanyahu and Gallant are charged with co-perpetrating war crimes, including starvation of civilians as a method of warfare, persecution, and systematic attacks on {{w|Palestinian}} civilian populations. Deif, who is accused of orchestrating and committing war crimes such as targeted rocket attacks and the intentional murder of {{w|Israelis|Israeli}} civilians, was reported killed by Israel. While Hamas has neither confirmed nor denied the claim, the ICC stated it is still gathering information about his alleged death. Previously, the court dropped charges against seven individuals due to their deaths. These warrants legally compel the 124 ICC member states to arrest officials should they enter their territories. Since the ICC lacks its own police force, it relies on member states to carry out arrests. Previous warrants have effectively limited the international movement of those involved, as member states are obligated to enforce these legal orders within their jurisdiction. <gallery mode="packed" heights="200" style="margin:auto"> Benjamin Netanyahu, February 2023.jpg|Israeli Prime Minister {{w|Benjamin Netanyahu}} is wanted by the {{w|International Criminal Court}}. {{image|[[c:User:Avi Ohayon|Avi Ohayon]]}} Yoav Galant 1.jpg|Former Israeli Defense Minister {{w|Yoav Gallant}} is wanted by the {{w|International Criminal Court}}. {{image|[[c:User:Avi Ohayon|Avi Ohayon]]}} Placeholder Person with black tie.jpg|Hamas military leader {{w|Mohammed Deif}} is wanted by the {{w|International Criminal Court}}. {{image|[[c:User:Peppypo|Peppypo]]}} </gallery> {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source |url = https://www.reuters.com/world/icc-issues-arrest-warrants-israels-netanyahu-gallant-hamas-leader-2024-11-21/ |title = ICC issues arrest warrants for Israel's Netanyahu, Gallant and Hamas leader |author = Stephanie van den Berg, Nidal Al-Mughrabi |pub = Reuters |date = November 22, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://apnews.com/article/icc-israel-hamas-warrants-netanyahu-palestinian-arrest-73c854d072e0a1a41b19b2cb2cdd07fa |title = Top war-crimes court issues arrest warrants for Netanyahu and others in Israel-Hamas fighting |author = Molly Quell |pub = Associate Press |date = November 22, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly2exvx944o |title = Arrest warrants issued for Netanyahu, Gallant and Hamas commander over alleged war crimes |author = David Gritten |pub = BBC |date = November 22, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/11/21/world-reacts-to-icc-arrest-warrants-for-israels-netanyahu-gallant |title = World reacts to ICC arrest warrants for Israel’s Netanyahu, Gallant |author = |pub = Al Jazeera |date = November 22, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/21/middleeast/international-criminal-court-issues-arrest-warrant-for-israeli-prime-minister-intl/index.html |title = International Criminal Court issues arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu |author = Abbas Al Lawati, Nadeen Ebrahim, Dana Karni, Tim Lister |pub = CNN |date = November 22, 2024 |archiveurl = }} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} {{Published}} [[Category:International Criminal Court]] [[Category:War crimes]] [[Category:Middle East]] [[Category:Israel]] [[Category:Palestine]] [[Category:Benjamin Netanyahu]] [[Category:Mohammed Deif]] [[Category:Archived-bot]] jnv90sxu62ipoyxl34sjop4n7as1ayw 5008015 5008014 2026-04-14T11:15:40Z Koavf 5879 removed [[Category:Mohammed Deif]] using [[Help:Gadget-HotCat|HotCat]] 5008015 wikitext text/x-wiki {{date|November 28, 2024}} [[File:International Criminal Court logo.svg|thumb|left|Logo of the {{w|The Hague|Hague-based}} {{w|International Criminal Court}}. {{image|[[c:User:Afrank99|Afrank99]]}}]] The {{w|International Criminal Court}} (ICC) issued arrest warrants on November 21, 2024, for Israeli Prime Minister {{w|Benjamin Netanyahu}}, former Defense Minister {{w|Yoav Gallant}}, and senior Hamas military leader {{w|Mohammed Deif}}. The warrants accuse the three of {{w|war crimes}} and {{w|crimes against humanity}} during the 2023-2024 {{w|Israel–Hamas war}}. <!--The ICC's actions have drawn sharp reactions from {{w|Israel}}, {{w|Hamas}}, and the international community. [Flagged for npov issues by Gryllida at time of publishing. -->In response, Netanyahu’s office rejected the decision, calling it an expression of “{{w|antisemitism}}” in an official statement. Hamas, on the other hand, expressed support for the ICC's involvement. Several countries and organizations have voiced differing opinions on the matter. According to {{w|Josep Borrell}}, the European Union's {{w|High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy|foreign policy chief}}, the ICC's decision is binding on all member states of the {{w|European Union}}. Non-member states like the U.S. reject the court, but several signatory states, including {{w|France}}, {{w|Italy}} and the {{w|Netherlands}}, have expressed their intention to follow ICC rules. The ICC’s decision has turned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and others into internationally wanted suspects, exposing them to potential arrest during foreign travel. According to the Pre-Trial Chamber of the ICC, Netanyahu and Gallant are charged with co-perpetrating war crimes, including starvation of civilians as a method of warfare, persecution, and systematic attacks on {{w|Palestinian}} civilian populations. Deif, who is accused of orchestrating and committing war crimes such as targeted rocket attacks and the intentional murder of {{w|Israelis|Israeli}} civilians, was reported killed by Israel. While Hamas has neither confirmed nor denied the claim, the ICC stated it is still gathering information about his alleged death. Previously, the court dropped charges against seven individuals due to their deaths. These warrants legally compel the 124 ICC member states to arrest officials should they enter their territories. Since the ICC lacks its own police force, it relies on member states to carry out arrests. Previous warrants have effectively limited the international movement of those involved, as member states are obligated to enforce these legal orders within their jurisdiction. <gallery mode="packed" heights="200" style="margin:auto"> Benjamin Netanyahu, February 2023.jpg|Israeli Prime Minister {{w|Benjamin Netanyahu}} is wanted by the {{w|International Criminal Court}}. {{image|[[c:User:Avi Ohayon|Avi Ohayon]]}} Yoav Galant 1.jpg|Former Israeli Defense Minister {{w|Yoav Gallant}} is wanted by the {{w|International Criminal Court}}. {{image|[[c:User:Avi Ohayon|Avi Ohayon]]}} Placeholder Person with black tie.jpg|Hamas military leader {{w|Mohammed Deif}} is wanted by the {{w|International Criminal Court}}. {{image|[[c:User:Peppypo|Peppypo]]}} </gallery> {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source |url = https://www.reuters.com/world/icc-issues-arrest-warrants-israels-netanyahu-gallant-hamas-leader-2024-11-21/ |title = ICC issues arrest warrants for Israel's Netanyahu, Gallant and Hamas leader |author = Stephanie van den Berg, Nidal Al-Mughrabi |pub = Reuters |date = November 22, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://apnews.com/article/icc-israel-hamas-warrants-netanyahu-palestinian-arrest-73c854d072e0a1a41b19b2cb2cdd07fa |title = Top war-crimes court issues arrest warrants for Netanyahu and others in Israel-Hamas fighting |author = Molly Quell |pub = Associate Press |date = November 22, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly2exvx944o |title = Arrest warrants issued for Netanyahu, Gallant and Hamas commander over alleged war crimes |author = David Gritten |pub = BBC |date = November 22, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/11/21/world-reacts-to-icc-arrest-warrants-for-israels-netanyahu-gallant |title = World reacts to ICC arrest warrants for Israel’s Netanyahu, Gallant |author = |pub = Al Jazeera |date = November 22, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/21/middleeast/international-criminal-court-issues-arrest-warrant-for-israeli-prime-minister-intl/index.html |title = International Criminal Court issues arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu |author = Abbas Al Lawati, Nadeen Ebrahim, Dana Karni, Tim Lister |pub = CNN |date = November 22, 2024 |archiveurl = }} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} {{Published}} [[Category:International Criminal Court]] [[Category:War crimes]] [[Category:Middle East]] [[Category:Israel]] [[Category:Palestine]] [[Category:Benjamin Netanyahu]] [[Category:Archived-bot]] h4ecdhyktr98j04hnfmgfkrqlotldoh 0 3004911 5008021 4958741 2026-04-14T11:16:58Z Koavf 5879 removed [[Category:Yoon Suk Yeol]] using [[Help:Gadget-HotCat|HotCat]] 5008021 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Nb|This article fails to comply with [[Wikinews:Cite sources|''Wikinews'' policy]] as it cites only one source that verifies the occurrence of its [[Wikinews:Focal event|focal event]]. We have not discovered any resulting inaccuracies.}} {{date|December 8, 2024}} {{South Korea}} [[File:2024년_대한민국_계엄_반대_시위대_깃발.jpg|thumb|left|Protesters opposing Yoon's declaration of {{w|martial law}}.{{image credit|[[c:Special:ListFiles/Hashflu|Hashflu]]}}]] On Saturday, motions to impeach [[South Korea]]n president {{w|Yoon Suk Yeol}} failed when most members of the {{w|People Power Party (South Korea)|People Power Party}} (his ruling party) did not participate in the {{w|National Assembly (South Korea)|National Assembly}} session to ratify an impeachment trial. The vote came after President Yoon {{w|2024 South Korean martial law|declared and lifted martial law on Tuesday}}, a move that left many citizens of the country taken aback. [[File:South_Korea_President_Yoon_Suk_Yeol_portrait.jpg|thumb|left|Yoon's official portrait, 2022. {{image source|Yongsan Presidential Office}}]] Members of the president's own ruling party, such as People Power Party head {{w|Han Dong-hoon}}, brought into question his fitness to serve in office, and some made calls for his resignation. In a televised appearance, Yoon apologized to his constituents for giving rise to nationwide apprehension. Some speculated that Yoon's decision to declare martial law was motivated by his recent political adversity, including a scandal from last month involving his alleged misuse of influence over the People Power Party, which he denied. Yoon was previously been attacked by former political opponents for his perceived imprudence. Yoon's declaration on Tuesday was immediately met with backlash from lawmakers. Although the {{w|Constitution of South Korea|South Korean constitution}} allows for the president to enact martial law in response to extreme circumstances, it also allows for the National Assembly to annul this decision through a majority vote. In this case, the vote was 190-0. Political unrest and nationwide protests were reportedly expected in response to the axing of the impeachment. Martial law has been declared in South Korea several times throughout the nation's history. == Related news == *{{wikinews|President of South Korea declares and lifts martial law|December 8, 2024}} == Sources == <!--Use at least two independent sources.--> *{{source |url = https://apnews.com/article/south-korea-martial-law-north-korea-emergency-b310df4fece42c27051f58b8951f346f |title = What to know about martial law and the impeachment vote threatening South Korea’s president |author = Foster Klug |pub = AP News |date = December 7, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/south-koreas-yoon-embittered-survivor-staggers-after-impeachment-vote-2024-12-07/ |title = South Korea's Yoon: Embittered survivor staggers on after impeachment vote |author = Jack Kim |pub = Reuters |date = December 7, 2024 |archiveurl = }} {{Archived-cc-2.5}} {{Published}} [[Category:Crime and law]] [[Category:Asia]] [[Category:South Korea]] [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:Archived-bot]] 46vvy2exh86fnwm6wbjn1aqcqj7tzmj 0 3008026 5008017 4853162 2026-04-14T11:16:09Z Koavf 5879 removed [[Category:Tijuana]] using [[Help:Gadget-HotCat|HotCat]] 5008017 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Disasters and accidents}} {{date|February 5, 2025}} <!--leave this as it is--> [[File:2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_55_crash.png|thumb|left|A CCTV still of a fireball rising from the crash site {{image source|CCTV footage}}]] On Friday evening, a small air ambulance crashed into a residential and commercial area in a densely populated neighborhood of {{w|Philadelphia}}, {{w|Pennsylvania}}, {{w|United States}}, killing everyone on board. The plane took off from {{w|Northeast Philadelphia Airport}}, rapidly lost altitude, and crashed into buildings below. As of February 2, officials confirmed six fatalities onboard the jet and at least one on the ground, warning the death toll could rise in the coming days. [[File:Jet_Rescue_air_ambulance_XA-UCI_LJ55_YVR.jpg|thumb|left|XA-UCI, the aircraft involved in the accident, photographed in December 2024 {{image source|King Hui}}]] The {{w|Learjet 55}}, which was heading {{w|Springfield, Missouri}} for a brief stopover before ultimately heading to to {{w|Tijuana, Mexico}}, was transporting a pediatric patient and her mother. CBS, citing a spokesman for Jet Rescue Air Ambulance, identified the patient as Valentina Guzman Murillo, a Mexican citizen who had recently completed treatment for an unspecified illness at {{w|Shriners Children's Hospital}}. Murillo had been receiving treatment in Philadelphia for four months prior due to difficulties finding care in her home country. The staff of the hospital said that they had thrown her a party earlier in the day prior to her departure from the hospital. “Her journey was one of hope and of aspiration. [...] It’s always a meaningful but yet emotional time for us. It’s really just been compounded by the tragic ending,” hospital spokesperson Mel Bower said. Other casualties on the plane included medical personnel such as a doctor and a paramedic, as well as the plane's two pilots. All onboard were Mexican citizens. According to city officials, the plane remained airborne for only a minute before losing altitude and crashing. The plane had reached an altitude of 1,500 feet before sharply declining. The crash site was approximately four miles away from the airport from which the plane had taken off, and was located in a mixed-use neighborhood containing both businesses and residences. The plane did not report issues to air traffic control. Air traffic control lost contact with the aircraft shortly after takeoff, and officials were quoted saying, “We have a lost aircraft. We’re not exactly sure what happened, so we’re trying to figure it out. For now the field is going to be closed.” The plane was said to have been left "highly fragmented" from what was described as a "high-impact crash" by [[National Transportation Safety Board]] (NTSB) chair {{w|Jennifer Homendy}}. [[File:Northeast_Philadelphia_Airport,_Pennsylvania_(7235311028).jpg|thumb|left|They left from Northeast Philadelphia Airport {{image source|Ken Lund}}]] Philadelphia's managing director, {{w|Adam Thiel}}, stated that the disaster area covered as much as six city blocks. City officials reported that several properties sustained what they described as "significant damage." Due to safety concerns, residents were advised to avoid the accident zone, and Mayor Cherelle Parker urged anyone who found aircraft debris to call 911 and "don't touch anything." Thiel also cautioned that debris may be scattered far from the crash site, stating, "It's possible that if you are somewhere not even near here, somewhere between this location and Northeast Airport, you may go out and find something in your yard." At a press conference, he emphasized the ongoing nature of the investigation, saying, "This is still a very active and fluid situation [...] It will likely be days or more until we are able to definitively answer the question about the number of folks who perished in this tragedy and the outcome for those who are injured." The cause of the crash remained unknown, and the {{w|Federal Aviation Administration}} and the NTSB were brought to the fore of the investigation. NTSB chair Jennifer Homendy said that they were collecting debris from the jet, which was described as "scattered," and said the process could take days or weeks. Mayor Parker later said they were "poring over every bit of material that has been available." The NTSB told {{w|CBS}} that by Sunday evening, the plane's engines and black box had been recovered from the wreckage. The NTSB also said that it had collected the plane's ground proximity warning system, and that it will be sent it to a lab in Washington, D.C. along with the black box for evaluation. The explosion was captured on doorbell security footage from nearby properties, some of which lost power following the crash. Witnesses described the impact to local media as a "massive fireball" that briefly "lit up the whole sky." Some compared the blast to an earthquake, while others initially thought it was a thunderstorm or a gas station explosion. A patron in a nearby restaurant sustained injuries after being struck by a "heavy metal object" that flew through a window. Another witness recalled hearing a "whirring noise" just before the explosion. [[File:A closer view of the Philadelphia Plane Crash 1-31-25.webm|thumb|left|[[w:Ring (company)|Ring doorbell]] footage of Flight 056 crashing {{image source|thenamelessone888}}]] US President {{w|Donald Trump}} said, "So sad to see the plane go down in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. More innocent souls lost." Pennsylvania state representative {{w|Jared_Solomon_(Pennsylvania_politician)|Jared Solomon}} was quoted saying "In a time of profound tragedy, I was inspired to witness hundreds of our first responders sprinting towards danger to ensure the safety of our neighborhood." Mexican President {{w|Claudia Sheinbaum}} gave her condolences on {{w|X}}, saying “Consular authorities are in constant contact with the families; I have asked the Foreign Affairs Secretary to support whatever is needed. My solidarity with their loved ones and friends." The crash came just days after another aviation disaster in the northeastern United States, where a passenger airplane collided mid-air with a military helicopter over the {{w|Potomac River}} near {{w|Washington, D.C.}}, killing 67 people. {{haveyoursay}} == Related news == *{{wikinews|Passenger plane collides with military helicopter near Washington, D.C.|January 31, 2025}} == Sister links == {{sisters|w|Med Jets Flight 056}} == Sources == *{{source |url = https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd9qe3z0vyeo |pub = BBC |date = February 2, 2025 |author= |title = Victims of Philadelphia air ambulance crash identified by jet company }} *{{source |url = https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/casualties-philadelphia-plane-crash-death-toll-b2690656.html |pub = The Independent |date = February 2, 2025 |author = Mike Bedigan |title = Philadelphia plane crash latest updates: All crew and passengers in medical jet crash identified; death toll rises to seven }} *{{source |url = https://www.npr.org/2025/02/01/nx-s1-5283031/philadelphia-plane-crash-mall-victims-mexico |pub = NPR |title = Investigators search for black box from small plane that crashed in Philadelphia |author = Juliana Kim |date = February 1, 2025 }} *{{source |url = https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg0m5n8g0do |title = Mother and child among seven killed in Philadelphia medical jet crash |author = Max Matza, Madeline Halpert & Christal Hayes |pub = BBC |date = February 1, 2025 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://apnews.com/article/philadelphia-plane-crash-medical-transport-8617dab53471190832dd73db149489fa |title = Seven dead, 19 injured in ‘high-impact’ air ambulance crash in Philadelphia |author = MARC LEVY and MATT ROURKE |pub = AP News |date = Feburary 1, 2025 |archiveurl = }} [[Category:Disasters and accidents]][[Category:Aviation]][[Category:United States]][[Category:Pennsylvania]][[Category:Philadelphia]][[Category:North America]][[Category:Health]][[Category:Mexico]] [[Category:Transport]] [[Category:National Transportation Safety Board]] {{Publish}}{{archived}}[[Category:Archived by Gryllida]] q7n4okff9y0nka4hhmii46cyjkzimp1 828 3008356 5008018 4838986 2026-04-14T11:16:38Z Koavf 5879 5008018 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Documentation subpage}} {{possible-risk}} = Module:ConvertTime Documentation = '''Module:ConvertTime''' is a Lua module designed for use on Wikinews to convert times from a specified timezone to Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) and format the output according to the Wikinews Style Guide. == Function == This module provides a single function: * <code>convert</code> — Converts the provided time to UTC and formats the output. == Usage == This module is typically invoked through the {{tl|ConvertTime}} template, but can also be called directly using: <code><nowiki>{{#invoke:ConvertTime|convert|time=1:45 p.m.|timezone=CDT}}</nowiki></code> For proper formatting and to avoid dynamic template calls, this should be substituted: <code><nowiki>{{subst:#invoke:ConvertTime|convert|time=1:45 p.m.|timezone=CDT}}</nowiki></code> == Parameters == * <code>time</code> — The time to convert. 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If the structure of the output changes (for example, to use [[:mw:Help:Extension:Kartographer|the <code><nowiki><mapframe></nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki><maplink></nowiki></code> tags]]), please update the aforementioned scripts as well. ==Using the module with coordinsert== When using the {{tl|Coord}} template inside another template, like an infobox, there may be parameters (like <code><var>type</var>:<var>airport</var></code>) which should be added automatically. To do so, do something like this: <code>&#123;&#123;#if:&#123;&#123;&#123;coordinates&#124;&#125;&#125;&#125;&#124;&#123;&#123;#invoke:Coordinates&#124;coordinsert&#124;&#123;&#123;&#123;coordinates&#124;&#125;&#125;&#125;&#124;<var>parameter1:value1&#124;parameter2:value2&#124;parameter3:value3…</var>&#125;&#125;&#124;</code> Do not add more vertical bars <code>&#124;</code> than necessary. ==Using the module with coord2text to extract latitude or longitude== Developers maintaining legacy code may need to extract latitude or longitude to use a parameters in other code, or a mathematical expression. The module's "coord2text" function can be used to extract data from the {{tl|Coord}} template. To extract the latitude from a Coord template, use: <code><nowiki>{{#invoke:coordinates|coord2text|{{Coord|57|18|22|N|4|27|32|E}}|lat}}</nowiki></code> &rarr; {{#invoke:coordinates|coord2text|{{Coord|57|18|22|N|4|27|32|E}}|lat}} To extract the longitude, use: <code><nowiki>{{#invoke:coordinates|coord2text|{{Coord|57|18|22|N|4|27|32|E}}|long}}</nowiki></code> &rarr; {{#invoke:coordinates|coord2text|{{Coord|57|18|22|N|4|27|32|E}}|long}} == Modules using this module directly == * [[Module:HS listed building row]] <includeonly>{{#switch:{{SUBPAGENAME}}|sandbox2|sandbox=| [[Category:Modules that add a tracking category]] }}</includeonly> c05dhjp4odcweb6ais9eo0t50acyzwk 14 3013689 5008005 4854023 2026-04-14T11:12:27Z Koavf 5879 removed [[Category:Auto shows in the United States]]; added [[Category:New York]] using [[Help:Gadget-HotCat|HotCat]] 5008005 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Topic cat |intro= |usage note= |image=NY Auto Show 2013.JPG |imagecaption=New York International Auto Show in 2013 |flag= |seal= |coat= |locmap=New York in United States.svg |portal=no |offset={{{offset|0}}} |sisterprojects=yes |wikibooks= |commons=Category:New York International Auto Show |wikidata=Q964426 |wikipedia=New York International Auto Show |wikiquote= |wikisource= |wiktionary= |wikiversity= |wikivoyage= }} [[Category:New York]] [[Category:Recurring events established in 1900]] esvbu67fr3hdhwta8m2680p8yxfm8km 5008006 5008005 2026-04-14T11:12:31Z Koavf 5879 removed [[Category:Recurring events established in 1900]] using [[Help:Gadget-HotCat|HotCat]] 5008006 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Topic cat |intro= |usage note= |image=NY Auto Show 2013.JPG |imagecaption=New York International Auto Show in 2013 |flag= |seal= |coat= |locmap=New York in United States.svg |portal=no |offset={{{offset|0}}} |sisterprojects=yes |wikibooks= |commons=Category:New York International Auto Show |wikidata=Q964426 |wikipedia=New York International Auto Show |wikiquote= |wikisource= |wiktionary= |wikiversity= |wikivoyage= }} [[Category:New York]] drhk2shy6dfadmpzktc4h84id6cl4h8 4 3016275 5007750 4868961 2026-04-13T18:37:35Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 close flag in archive 5007750 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talk archive}} == Issue with archival == Hi @[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] How was [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Netumbo_Nandi-Ndaitwah_sworn_in_as_Namibia%27s_first_female_president&oldid=4846296&diff=cur this] possible? Could Leaderbot archive (including protect from editing) everything 24 hours after publication, automatically, please? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:38, 23 April 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] The bot hasn't been running automatically due to a couple of bugs reported at my talk page (which caused incorrect templates to be applied). I'll need to fix them first. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 04:15, 23 April 2025 (UTC) ::Hi Leaderboard, thank you for replying. Which bugs are these? May I fix these bugs for you? Over a week when there is increasing number of foolish users is a bit concerning. Archiving articles is possibly a decent way to reduce load of vandalism fighting. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] See [[User_talk:Leaderboard#Archiving]]. To summarise: the problem is that the bot currently uses the date/time of the ''last'' edit in determining whether to, for instance, protect a page. As shown there, such an approach doesn't always work, which can result in cases such as incorrect templates applied, and more importantly, will result in the bot not protecting pages or otherwise taking action when it should. The fix is not difficult (the bot will need to figure out when the page has been published) - just annoying. I'll try to find some time to do this. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 05:24, 23 April 2025 (UTC) ::::Hi @[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ::::As there was increased vandalism of published articles recently, I made a script, and [[:Category:Archived by Gryllida|a tracking category for it]] (in article edit it links to script source). This category contains articles which I archived ''without'' checking anything else: I didn't check pending changes to them, and I didn't add 'archiveurl=' for sources; some of them are double archived because the Published category addition date for them was hijacked by something and they were in the 'February to April' range despite having been published earlier. I encourage you, or anyone else interested, to process and empty this category as these articles are checked for whatever else needs to be done other than protecting them. ::::If nothing is done in near future, I'll write a script which adds 'archiveurl=' to all sources within the articles in that category. ::::Have a good day. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 13:32, 28 April 2025 (UTC) :::::Got it - but it may take some time for me to get to this. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 14:36, 28 April 2025 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] Can you clarify more about the "archiveurl=" part? My script doesn't do that right now, and I'm wondering if I need to take that into account. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 16:52, 28 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::Hi @[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ::::::1) Apparently I overdid it, should have done over 7 days old. Now {{tl|Main headlines}} is practically empty. I was sure it is 1 day old. :-( ::::::2) Example: ::::::*{{source :::::: |url = https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58223231 :::::: |title = Afghanistan conflict: Taliban push into Kabul as Ghani flees :::::: |author = :::::: |pub = BBC News Online :::::: |date = August 15, 2021 :::::: |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20210815165730/https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58223231 ::::::}} ::::::I'm not sure why this archiveurl supposed included, it seems to show only in source and there is no user-facing output of it. I think someone mentioned it would be good to run our own instance and archive all sources. Was it @[[User:SVTCobra|SVTCobra]]? ::::::Hope it helps. ::::::Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:42, 29 April 2025 (UTC) :::::::My feeling is that archiveurl is not important right now and that this can be done separately - is that right? [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 04:26, 29 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::::Yup can be done later with some risk that some sources will be gone by the time this is started. But yes this can be done later. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:13, 29 April 2025 (UTC) :::::::::So how does this work usually? Do you manually get the web.archive link for that page? [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 06:10, 29 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::::::Yes someone used to do that manually a long time ago. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 06:12, 29 April 2025 (UTC) :::::::::::OK got it. Meanwhile I think I've fixed the bugs in my script, but it seems like it doesn't need to do anything for a while. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 10:05, 29 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::::::::Thanks. May I please have ssh access as co-maintainer? I will, in case of needed changes, keep backups and notes on-wiki. I can program for wiki in python, node, perl, and javascript. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:57, 29 April 2025 (UTC) :::::::::::::See https://github.com/Leader-board/WMF-projects/tree/master/enwikinews [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 12:42, 29 April 2025 (UTC) ::::::::::::::Thanks a lot [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:40, 4 May 2025 (UTC) {{outdent|14}}ArchiveURL can help recover lost source links. I am not aware of an automated process for this. [[User:InternetArchiveBot]] was proposed to assist, but its current status is unclear (see [[Wikinews:Bots/Requests/InternetArchiveBot|discussion here]]). We possibly include ArchiveURL to support Wiki-wide developments, similar to this recent [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2024/December tech news update]: <blockquote> The Editing Team is working on making it easier to populate citations from archive.org using the Citoid tool, the auto-filled citation generator. They are asking communities to add two parameters preemptively, archiveUrl and archiveDate, within the TemplateData for each citation template using Citoid. </blockquote> I am not aware of us using Citoid in relation to {{tl|Source}}. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:46, 5 May 2025 (UTC) :We can't actually use Citoid with the Source template, as it is designed to [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Citoid/Enabling_Citoid_on_your_wiki automatically generate inline references], which are not used on here. Although we can use its API for similar functionality, to auto generate sources, like what [[User:Gryllida/js/addSourcesUi.js|this script does]]; But Citoid doesn't automatically generate archive URLs. [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:10, 5 May 2025 (UTC) == Review template is not replyable == When an article was reviewed, a new section is added at it talk/collaboration page. It does not have a signature. As a result, it does not have a clickable "reply" link for it. What would be a nice way to resolve this? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:24, 4 May 2025 (UTC) :Add the signature code to the reviewing template? [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 11:25, 4 May 2025 (UTC) ::If it works it would be very good, could you please add it? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:40, 4 May 2025 (UTC) ::To add a signature after the review template, we can modify the variable reviewText at [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js#L-260 line 260] of easyPeerReview Gadget with the following code: ::<syntaxhighlight lang="js"> var reviewText = "<!-- " + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_comment + " --> \{\{" + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_peer_reviewed + "|" + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_revid + "=" + r.EasyReview_revid + "|" + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_copyright + "=" + r.EasyReview_copyright_comment + "|" + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_newsworthy + "=" + r.EasyReview_news_comment + "|" + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_verifiable + "=" + r.EasyReview_sources_comment + "|" + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_npov + "=" + r.EasyReview_npov_comment + "|" + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_style + "=" + r.EasyReview_sg_comment + "|" + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_reviewer + "=" + mw.config.get('wgUserName') + "|" + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_comments_field + "=" + r.EasyReview_comment + "|" + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_time + "=~~" + "~~" + "~}} \n--" + "~".repeat(4); </syntaxhighlight> ::-- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:50, 4 May 2025 (UTC) == We will be enabling the new Charts extension on your wiki soon! == ''(Apologies for posting in English)'' Hi all! We have good news to share regarding the ongoing problem with graphs and charts affecting all wikis that use them. As you probably know, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|old Graph extension]] was disabled in 2023 [[listarchive:list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EWL4AGBEZEDMNNFTM4FRD4MHOU3CVESO/|due to security reasons]]. We’ve worked in these two years to find a solution that could replace the old extension, and provide a safer and better solution to users who wanted to showcase graphs and charts in their articles. We therefore developed the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Charts extension]], which will be replacing the old Graph extension and potentially also the [[:mw:Extension:EasyTimeline|EasyTimeline extension]]. After successfully deploying the extension on Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedia, as well as on MediaWiki.org, as part of a pilot phase, we are now happy to announce that we are moving forward with the next phase of deployment, which will also include your wiki. The deployment will happen in batches, and will start from '''May 6'''. Please, consult [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Project#Deployment Timeline|our page on MediaWiki.org]] to discover when the new Charts extension will be deployed on your wiki. You can also [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|consult the documentation]] about the extension on MediaWiki.org. If you have questions, need clarifications, or just want to express your opinion about it, please refer to the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension_talk:Chart/Project|project’s talk page on Mediawiki.org]], or ping me directly under this thread. If you encounter issues using Charts once it gets enabled on your wiki, please report it on the [[:mw:Extension_talk:Chart/Project|talk page]] or at [[phab:tag/charts|Phabricator]]. Thank you in advance! -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|User:Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|talk]]) 15:07, 6 May 2025 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:Sannita (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Sannita_(WMF)/Mass_sending_test&oldid=28663781 --> == Seeking consensus to install [[:mw:Help:Extension:Newsletter]] == There are three purposes: to announce published articles, to announce new drafts, and to announce new requests for revision, to interested wiki users. The announcements can be delivered via Echo, and are visible also when logged into a sister wiki. This extension provides an opportunity to do this automatically, and users subscribe or unsubscribe themselves on special page. To get started, '''consensus is needed here: do we want to add this extension on this wiki?''' Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:42, 9 May 2025 (UTC) === Discussion (and ping any users who you think could be interested here) === {{tl|flag}} * Hi @[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] @[[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] @[[User:Back ache|Back ache]] @[[User:Md Mobashir Hossain|Md Mobashir Hossain]] @[[User:Almondo2025|Almondo2025]], @[[User:Dsuke1998AEOS|Dsuke1998AEOS]], @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]], @[[User:Monsieur2137|Monsieur2137]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], @[[User:Excelblue|excelblue]] (if you want yourself removed or someone else added to this list, please inquire [[Template talk:Pingrr|here]]) [[Category:Revision requested]] A revision has been requested. Here is a list of what to do. (If/when you intend to start working on it, please '''Subscribe to this section and to this talk page''', and post reply messages here when you started and finished editing) See below: 1. check discussion above and vote below --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:17, 9 May 2025 (UTC) :Yes [[User:FranklySiva|FranklySiva]] ([[User talk:FranklySiva|talk]]) 16:02, 10 May 2025 (UTC) :https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T394022 added. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:28, 13 May 2025 (UTC) === Votes === * yes as i proposed above [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:42, 9 May 2025 (UTC) *'''Yes''' Seems safe enough to try. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 12:53, 9 May 2025 (UTC) *{{support}} I ask that the extension be used in a truly opt-in style. No users should be added except, strictly by themselves. In the past with similar tools, a handful of users were added without their consent and that is not an "opt-in" or "subscribe" situation. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:33, 9 May 2025 (UTC) *{{support}} [[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] ([[User talk:Wikiwide|talk]]) 21:19, 9 May 2025 (UTC) *{{Support}}: This feature would be a significant step toward advertising complete and incomplete article for more editors, though I also support Michael's suggestion to make it opt-in. [[User:Dsuke1998AEOS|Dsuke1998]][[Special:Contributions/Dsuke1998AEOS|AEOS]] ('''[[User talk:Dsuke1998AEOS|talk]]''') 22:35, 9 May 2025 (UTC) *{{Support}} [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:31, 10 May 2025 (UTC) *{{Support}} ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:58, 10 May 2025 (UTC) *{{Support}}: Could be beneficial. For subscribing to published articles, some automation (perhaps a bot) could be useful. But that's a discussion for later. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:36, 10 May 2025 (UTC) * {{s}} Why not? [[User:Md Mobashir Hossain|Md Mobashir Hossain]] ([[User talk:Md Mobashir Hossain|talk]]) 12:07, 10 May 2025 (UTC) * yes [[User:FranklySiva|FranklySiva]] ([[User talk:FranklySiva|talk]]) 09:54, 11 May 2025 (UTC) * Note that the WMF has in the past refused to install Newsletter on wikis other than MediaWiki.org because they wanted it to be recorded to support interwiki newsletters first. So this may get declined once it's reported on Phabricator. But no harm in trying I guess. (Personally I think this is a stupid rule). [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 00:53, 12 May 2025 (UTC) *:Doesn't Echo handle interwiki for it now? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:49, 12 May 2025 (UTC) == Script to sort sources == In https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=India_and_Pakistan_agree_to_a_ceasefire_after_days_of_mutual_attacks&oldid=4857433#Sources the fresh sources should go first. I'd like to write a script to sort them. Have no clue how to even start. For a given section, how can I retrieve a list of templates? For a retrieved list of templates, how do I get list of their keys and values which were specified as parameters? cc @[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:04, 14 May 2025 (UTC) :Fresh sources as in? The more recent, the newer? [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 06:29, 15 May 2025 (UTC) ::source May 15, then May 14, then May 13, etc. the 'today' dated go first. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:31, 15 May 2025 (UTC) == New software request == Hello, I'd like to request that someone writes a script which opens a dialog with a list of category members of 'Revision requested' category, for each member it goes through the article edit history and finds where a new section titled starting with 'RR:' was added and adds column with (i) stuff that is in section title after 'RR:' wikilinked to that section (ii) date of addition of that section (iii) nick of who added it (iv) link to article page. I may be able to code something like this but I haven't started yet, so you're welcome to start now and/or share some pointers if you like. Thanks heaps [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:49, 14 May 2025 (UTC) == Template requests == I will update this section with more template requests over time: 1. Excerpt ([[W:Template:Excerpt|from Wikipedia]]): allows for essentially transcluding content from one article to another. Perhaps it could be possible to even transclude Wikipedia content to a Wikinews article? [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 17:52, 15 May 2025 (UTC) 2. Would something like [[w:Template:Category redirect]] be appropriate here? This way, something like [[:Category:Politics]] can continue to be empty, but at least exist as a redirect to the currently-used [[:Category:Politics and conflicts]]. 3. Something like the series of [[w:Template:R with possibilities]] templates could be helpful as a way of creating redirects in the moment, but making it clear they can be developed further later. [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 18:09, 15 May 2025 (UTC) :It is needed to understand that there is a scarcity of content writers and reviewers. Your assistance with that editing of articles is very welcome. :Wikipedia articles are written differently. Verb tense and inline citations and they do not do "attribution" as consistently and they do not follow "inverted pyramid". I would not recommend to transclude. They are very different contents. :I have no position on category redirects. It is less effort to just use existing categories. HotCat aurocompletes them anyway. :I have not seen a need in creating redirects. They consume time. :Hope it helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:54, 15 May 2025 (UTC) ::There may be a use for transcluding a paragraph or two from Wikipedia (I'm guessing transclusion may not run afoul of copyright license incompatibility?), or at least transcluding between articles on Wikinews. [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 21:45, 15 May 2025 (UTC) :::From Wikipedia I dare you to find examples. Usually information is not included into article unless it is verifiable in sources, unless it is forever ever kkowledge like Paris capital of France. So if you are writing article about new Pope, you cannot put five pages from Wikipedia into a background section. It has to be sourced from something more specific than Wikipedia. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:03, 15 May 2025 (UTC) ::::{{Tq|From Wikipedia I dare you to find examples.}} Well, in the [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=India_and_Pakistan_agree_to_a_ceasefire_after_days_of_mutual_attacks&oldid=4857729#Kashmir final section] of the page I am editing about the India-Pakistan ceasefire, there is background offered on the Kashmir conflict. I think the first paragraph and one of the images from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_conflict the Wikipedia article on that] would offer a more comprehensive overview essentially. [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 23:17, 15 May 2025 (UTC) ::{{Tq|Wikipedia articles are written differently [...] inline citations}} Just FYI, Excerpt allows for transcluding content while excluding all inline citations and references. [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 04:00, 16 May 2025 (UTC) :::That does not solve content. For example, verb tense. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:29, 16 May 2025 (UTC) :For article bits transclusion, I guess would need to be subst'ed as cannot edit a part of article after archival. Dunno value of it. With such as wars, the context keeps changing a bit too. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:49, 15 May 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]], regarding transcluding content between articles on Wikinews, it's technically possible—usually done by transcluding specific sections. However, since our articles rarely use subsections, this may require structural adjustments. ::As for transcluding content from Wikipedia, we legally cannot do so. Our copyright licenses are incompatible: Wikinews uses CC BY 2.5, while Wikipedia uses CC BY-SA 4.0, which includes a ShareAlike requirement we do not support. The same applies in reverse—Wikipedia cannot reuse our content either. ::Regarding category redirects, I think that’s a solid consensus compromise and provides a useful tracking mechanism. One concern to keep in mind: many pages here are edit-protected to admin-only. In my view, this often causes more issues than it prevents, especially given how few active admins we have to handle tasks like archiving, deletion, and counter-vandalism. As part of any category overhaul, I suggest we also reconsider our protection practices—possibly lowering some protections to allow editing by reviewers, or even auto-confirmed users, to ease the workload and improve flexibility. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:50, 15 May 2025 (UTC) :::Changing categories of archived articles is a bit of a problem. I will post here if I find a working solution. I presume content should not be changed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:06, 15 May 2025 (UTC) :::{{Tq|regarding transcluding content between articles on Wikinews, it's technically possible—usually done by transcluding specific sections.}} The Excerpt template allows for transclusion by paragraph (e.g. paragraphs 3 through 5), and so since archived articles don't change, it should be possible to excerpt from them in a stable manner. :::{{Tq|The same applies in reverse—Wikipedia cannot reuse our content either.}} This seems to be somewhat contradicted by the [[WN:For Wikipedians]] page: {{Tq|... content from ''Wikinews'' may be copied word-for-word to Wikipedia if proper copyright attribution is provided}} [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 23:08, 15 May 2025 (UTC) 4. Extending the functionality of {{Tl|W}} so that if there is no link found either at Wikinews or at Wikipedia, then the link text instead shows up as regular text. [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 17:31, 16 May 2025 (UTC) :In my common.js there is a script that color codes this. Please check. If you cannot find it, please ping me, I will look at it when I am at desktop. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:32, 17 May 2025 (UTC) 5. Porting over various templates related to conversion, such as converting between measurements, currencies, indicating language translation and transcription more explicitly, etc. [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 15:33, 23 May 2025 (UTC) :Timezone converting is so painful. :-( It would be nice to have a code. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:00, 28 May 2025 (UTC) == Talk pages indexed by search engines == Today I discovered that our article talk or collaboration pages are indexed by search engines. This is problematic, as these pages may contain discussions about unsupported statements that were never included in the published article, yet are visible in search results. Just as Wikipedia prevents indexing of BLP talk pages[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Controlling_search_engine_indexing#Biographies_of_Living_Persons_talkpage_noindexing], I believe we should have <code>NOINDEX</code> applied to of ''all'' of our talk pages, given our role as a news site. We'll remain transparent by having it all publicly available, just not (hopefully) indexed by search engines. The solution seems to involve namespace control[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Controlling_search_engine_indexing#Namespace_control], but I’m unsure how we would implement this or who to approach to begin the discussion. Suggestions? —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:02, 27 May 2025 (UTC) :I don't know if this is a good idea - is it a bad idea for people to see unsupported statements that are clearly part of a discussion? [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 07:22, 28 May 2025 (UTC) :I saw today that unpublished stories are also indexed. How did this work before? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:58, 28 May 2025 (UTC) ::I did a search using DuckDuckGo for "Maksim Lepushenka" and it still returns our article (good) plus the article's talk page (bad). ::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], which unpublished stories showed up in a search and what was the search? I just searched for the headline of one of our developing articles "Sound Talent Group employees among casualties in private plane crash at San Diego, California" and did not get our article or its talk page in the search results. ::It works through Robots.txt. See also [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/technical/archives/2024/September#Robots.txt_to_restrict_search_engines_crawling_and_indexing_developing_articles this similar and recent request]. {{tl|develop}}, {{tl|tasks}}, {{tl|abandoned}} and {{tl|delete}} all add <code>NOINDEX</code> to individual pages. ::I don't believe we've ever explicitly prevented the indexing of our article talk pages. ::I do not see the talk page listed in our Sitemap, which is good. That means a crawler probably went from the article page to the talk page through the link. ::It could be that we add <code>Disallow: /wiki/Talk:</code> to [[MediaWiki:Robots.txt]]. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:46, 28 May 2025 (UTC) :::It was the union rally story, which is developing. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:45, 28 May 2025 (UTC) ::::It looks like Robots.txt is not being applied, even when we use the magic word <nowiki>__NOINDEX__</nowiki>. Do local admins have access to Wiki settings discussed in this mediawiki help page: [[mw:Help:Controlling search engine indexing]] to help troubleshoot? If this isn't something local admins can help with, should it be a phabricator request? Thanks in advance. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 23:37, 28 May 2025 (UTC) {{outdent|4}} [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] said {{tq|...is it a bad idea for people to see unsupported statements that are clearly part of a discussion?}} NOINDEX won't hide them or prevent anyone from finding them. It should just stop search engines from indexing them and then presenting them in search results. For published articles, it's fine if the article is indexed and the talk page is not. Readers can still follow the "Collaboration" link and see the discussion behind the article. NOINDEX ''should'' also prevent AI/LLMs from scraping talk pages and article drafts...''should''. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 23:42, 28 May 2025 (UTC) :But is it a bad thing to allow search engines from seeing them? [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 05:52, 29 May 2025 (UTC) ::Yes, I believe so. Wikinews should index the content we deem as our primary "product," the published news articles. These are the polished, peer-reviewed stories we intend the public to read first. Conversely, Talk pages and collaboration spaces represent the “behind-the-scenes” process of how we produced those stories, including discussions that may reference unsupported or draft ideas. By preventing these pages from being indexed, we signal a clear distinction: the article is the authoritative, intended presentation for the public, while the Talk page is supplementary for those who choose to explore the process. Transparency remains, but we control the first impression that search engines deliver. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:27, 29 May 2025 (UTC) :::The other way to think about this is SEO optimisation. It may instead be better to put some sort of template on the talk page so that newbies are not confused as to where the article is? [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 19:05, 29 May 2025 (UTC) ::::What would you recommend for verbiage? I can put that together easily enough. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 20:49, 29 May 2025 (UTC) :It is also currently possible to search for unpublished (developing) articles in Wikinews search. Should that be disabled/restricted too? [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 15:38, 29 May 2025 (UTC) ::I don't believe so. We want contributors to easily find stories already started so that we avoid duplicating efforts. It's also an "internal" thing versus an external search engine, where people are more likely searching for news and other 'official' information about a topic. ::I assume someone who is using our Wikinews search is more likely to be aware of the difference between a talk page and a published article. Someone doing a Web search for a person's name, for example, may not even know what a Wiki talk page is. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:03, 29 May 2025 (UTC) == Draft assistant == https://gryllida.neocities.org/news/writer/v3/ cc @[[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] @[[User:Md Mobashir Hossain|Md Mobashir Hossain]] @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] @[[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] Feedback welcome Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 20:54, 29 May 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], seems complicated for me.... Sorry... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:48, 29 May 2025 (UTC) ::Is [https://gryllida.neocities.org/news/writer/v3/index-2 v3-2] less confusing to you, @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]]? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 10:18, 30 May 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], looks better thanks. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 10:21, 30 May 2025 (UTC) ::::Glad to hear it. Let me know if you are planning to use it and encounter issues. Thank you! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 10:22, 30 May 2025 (UTC) :::::Will do. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 10:24, 30 May 2025 (UTC) :The idea of having criterion checkboxes that a writer has to tick off is interesting, because perhaps that can be implemented in the mainstream interface and then writers who claim to have fulfilled certain criteria but failed to do so can be penalized after doing so too many times. [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 23:26, 29 May 2025 (UTC) ::I didn't find a convenient way to make tickable boxes on-wiki in a talk page section. Can you help? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 12:48, 31 May 2025 (UTC) ::I just asked [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AVillage_pump_(technical)#Request:_example_of_markup_for_tickable_checkboxes here]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 12:50, 31 May 2025 (UTC) emphh0d30p6lml2uoac9m7i988biltq 4 3017900 5007752 4871823 2026-04-13T18:38:27Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 close flag in archive 5007752 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talk archive}} == Tech News: 2025-23 == <section begin="technews-2025-W23"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/23|Translations]] are available. 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It would be similar to 'briefs', but would actually include a table and a recommendation to fit less than 200 words. Here is a proposed template: [[User:Gryllida/template2]]. If this is acceptable, this can be added to the main page and to [[WN:WRITE]] page. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 10:03, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :Example: :*[[Mini: G5 geomagnetic storm strikes southern hemisphere]] :Only 46 words. I'm thinking anything longer would already pose risks with reviewing. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 10:26, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ::To be quite honest filling sources for it was the most time consuming part. And even the table does not click properly, need to double click. Is this adequate software for visual editing...? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 10:27, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :::Maybe easier to work with [[User:Gryllida/template3-submit]] that. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 10:30, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ::Can you also include "How" (5Ws'''+H''')? The idea is pretty cool, and an added bonus is that it would allow for more reviewers to contribute, since the articles are much shorter and thus there is less stuff to verify; there could also be a system of 'limited reviewership' where people who want to become reviewers can start by being granted the right to review the 5W+H briefs. [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 14:09, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ::::I think this is a better alternative to performing a 5W mini review. At least this way the 5W briefs would theoretically (hopefully) get a full and complete review. ::::However, a 5W brief article would amount to encouragement to read our sources rather than getting much meaningful content from Wikinews. A very brief article basically says; ''here are the basic details but go elsewhere to learn more.'' That, to me, does not represent quality and would not be a reason I would frequent Wikinews as a reader or consumer of our content. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:02, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :::::I mean, there are not many takers for the current content anyways; the project is in a death loop, hoping for some intervention which will somehow make the existing model make sense. I think in some ways, it's better to build up some momentum with this 5W+H briefs idea, even if just for a few months, and then see if enough new people show up to do the work of creating longer articles. I think it also makes some sense just as a way to create brief snippets of events and happenings in the world, which can play into both the "Abstract Wikipedia" idea as well as offering something to link to within the Wikinews ecosystem. If nothing else, getting people in the habit of writing the 5W+H briefs would train them to write better articles, and might spark fresh collaborative curiosity. [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 16:12, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :::::Starting a "Wikinews shorts" section to the site would be similar to how many information companies are offering shorter content nowadays, like with YouTube Shorts or Tiktoks. The difference here is that Wikinews briefs can still be linked within the broader Wikimedia ecosystem, meaning that readers are able to quickly go from a brief overview of an event to very detailed content and details on its various aspects and contexts in any of the various sister projects. :::::I think a detail of implementation that might increase consensus for this change would be to limit the number of short articles/force editors to occasionally write a long article, in order to prevent this new feature from overwhelming the site's tradition. But overall, it doesn't make much sense to totally shut down the potential momentum this offers. [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 16:47, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :::::I would frequent Wikinews with the 5W+H as 95% of "news" in mainstream media is vague on these points. They are often missing or wrong. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 13:06, 4 June 2025 (UTC) ===Votes=== *{{support}} [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:11, 5 June 2025 (UTC) == Proposal 3: build a 5W+H database with Wikinews and Wikidata == Proposing to link the 5W+H with Wikidata.The date, who, and when with Wikidata looks easy-ish. And potentially "why" if there is a wikidata object for that. I am requesting your comments, votes, and implementation discussion. If there is a news story then link it to Wikidata item. If not, then generate based on Wikidata and publish as stub, if policies allow it. (See discussion above.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:47, 4 June 2025 (UTC) === Discussion (merit of the idea) === * Hi @[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] @[[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] @[[User:Back ache|Back ache]] @[[User:Md Mobashir Hossain|Md Mobashir Hossain]] @[[User:Almondo2025|Almondo2025]], @[[User:Dsuke1998AEOS|Dsuke1998AEOS]], @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]], @[[User:Monsieur2137|Monsieur2137]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], @[[User:Excelblue|excelblue]] (if you want yourself removed or someone else added to this list, please inquire [[Template talk:Pingrr|here]]) [[Category:Revision requested]] A revision has been requested. Here is a list of what to do. (If/when you intend to start working on it, please '''Subscribe to this section and to this talk page''', and post reply messages here when you started and finished editing) See below: <mark>1) Check this section and leave a comment or a vote.</mark> [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:47, 4 June 2025 (UTC) *:[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], [[User:Gryllida|RockerballAustralia]], [[User:Gryllida|Michael.C.Wright]], [[User:Gryllida|Bddpaux]], [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:48, 4 June 2025 (UTC) * I think it would help to build a more comprehensive catalogue of events. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:47, 4 June 2025 (UTC) === Discussion (feasibility of implementation) === * Going to ask this from Wikidata. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:47, 4 June 2025 (UTC) *:https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Events_database -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:59, 4 June 2025 (UTC) === Votes === * {{support}} if it doable. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:47, 4 June 2025 (UTC) == Proposal 4 from Michael C Wright == Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], you mentioned above that you agree that review process needs to be "streamlined". Please pick '''only one''' actionable item for that and describe it here. I and others will hopefully discuss and vote on it. If you need more than one, add as proposal 5, 6, 7, etc. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 14:00, 5 June 2025 (UTC) :I’ve already made concrete, actionable proposals. See [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#Markup for developing articles and the review process]], which has been in use and iteratively improved over the past several months. That discussion has been ongoing for over eight months and includes specific, low-impact changes that several contributors are already using successfully. :Rather than introducing a new set of numbered proposals here, I think it’s more constructive to evaluate and build on the work that’s already underway—and to ensure that any streamlining of the review process preserves core standards like sourcing, plagiarism checks, and neutrality. Recent events have made clear that skipping those checks creates more work and reputational risk in the long run. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:44, 5 June 2025 (UTC) ::may i get a plot, the orange line which was in "wikinews is dying" post, updated to include additional weeks to now? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 14:52, 5 June 2025 (UTC) ::By the way, I think it is confusing that you state opinions as facts. You cannot write "Recent events have made clear that skipping those checks creates more work and reputational risk in the long run.", for example; that is an opinion. If I had such opinion, I would write "I am concerned that, as recently it happened, skipping these checks may create more work and reputational risk in the long run". Or something like that. It is a concern. It is not an absolute. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 17:06, 5 June 2025 (UTC) I’m increasingly concerned that this discussion has become a back-and-forth between two people, and that in itself is becoming disruptive to the project. Our goal here should be to examine how we can streamline the review process without sacrificing key standards like plagiarism checks, neutrality, and proper sourcing. I’ve already made proposals in that direction, which are currently in use and being tested. Rather than continuing to debate procedural structure in this thread, I’d welcome broader input from others on how those ideas are working in practice and whether they address the core challenges we face. Ultimately, the focus should stay on quality, sustainability, and collective problem-solving, not on personalities or side threads. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:10, 5 June 2025 (UTC) :So you cannot provide plot. Provide me with the code for it then please. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:34, 5 June 2025 (UTC) == Proposal 5 from Gryllida Notifications app or email setting == Apps to notify users from Echo for: Android, Mac, iOS, Windows. This should help users edit more quickly. As they cannot always eyeball the wiki. Maybe need to investigate how to setup Echo to email each @mention to a user. Is this setting on by default? App would be nicer as not all users get Notofication to their device for email. === Discussion === === Votes : echo 2 email setting on by default === === Votes: Notifications apps === * {{support}} [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:09, 5 June 2025 (UTC) == Tech News: 2025-24 == <section begin="technews-2025-W24"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. 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[3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Resources_for_candidates<section end="announcement-content" /> [[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|talk]]) 17:43, 17 June 2025 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:RamzyM (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=28866958 --> == Future of Wikinews == This might not only be related to English Wikinews but to the Wikinews project in general. The Wikimedia Foundation's Community Affairs Committee [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force Sister Projects Task Force] is planning a public consultation about the long-term viability of the Wikinews model as a sister project. According to the task force, some concerns include the sustainability of community engagement, content quality, and alignment with Wikimedia's goals of knowledge equity and reliability. For now, no new language editions of Wikinews will be created. [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#c-Victoria-20250602104100-Asked42-20250530144700 See a recent discussion related to this]. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:14, 2 June 2025 (UTC) :In light of the above comment, I would like to propose that we, as reviewers, take a proactive approach to address these challenges. :Moving forward, I propose that all reviewers commit to performing full and complete reviews of all draft articles and take no shortcuts in the process for any reason, including speed of publication. While a full and complete review can be time-consuming, it is currently the most reliable way we have to ensure that our content is of acceptable quality, free of unverified or false statements, and fully aligned with our established policies and guidelines. :By reinforcing our commitment to high-quality content, we can help strengthen Wikinews’s credibility and demonstrate the project’s ongoing value to the broader Wikimedia ecosystem. :{{ping|Acagastya|Bawolff|Bddpaux|Chaetodipus|Cromium|Gryllida|Heavy Water|JJLiu112|LivelyRatification|Michael.C.Wright|Microchip08|RockerballAustralia|SVTCobra|ShakataGaNai|Tom Morris|Tyrol5|William S. Saturn}} —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:28, 2 June 2025 (UTC) ::I can see full reviews as problematic, as authors don't keep up with requests. I would suggest making a '5W Brief' format, which should be easier to review. [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous#'5W_Brief'_format]] has a example. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 10:03, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ::Added two proposals below. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 22:15, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], would you possibly consider writing a tiny copy of reFill, to fills sources templates from any URLs in the 'Sources' section? It presents with a edit box in which the changes were implemented, the user just needs to click 'preview' or 'show changes' and 'save'. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 10:25, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :Reviews/FlaggedRevs were originally instituted as a requirement of syndication to Google News. I don't think it was a thing prior to that. Reviews on Wikinews rub against the wiki model, and, coupled with the shortage of reviewers, make it very difficult to recruit/retain contributors. I think we should seriously consider getting rid of reviews entirely. Ultimately, we're currently making the decision to have no news rather than imperfect news – and I don't think that's appropriate. [[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]] ([[User talk:Microchip08|talk]]) 11:20, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]] I agree with you. What do you think of the suggested "mini" 5w brief format I proposed further down the page? Could you please check the two tiny stories I just wrote in that format? While the effort writing them is similar to writing a normal article, I think they stand out as much easier to review and harder to stuff up when writing them. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 11:46, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]] further: what do you think of verifying only the 5Ws in the first paragraph, and not undertaking a full review? I did that several times in April when all other reviewers were on holiday. I did not check beyond "yes, it happened there and then; it is not one sided propaganda; pass". Then @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] strongly opposed this approach. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 11:50, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :::Since there are seemingly only a couple thousands of readers on this site at the moment, it should probably not be seen as a major catastrophe to go a long time without news being published here. So I would personally lean against being too quick with review processes. :::At a minimum, any article that goes through a 'semi-review' process should have all the unreviewed information visibly flagged and perhaps even hidden from readers until checked. [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 12:56, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ::::Gryllida mentioned that I “strongly opposed” her approach, and that’s correct—but with good reason. The demonstrable problems with the abbreviated reviews are well-documented. Articles reviewed in this manner have too often included falsehoods, bias, and plagiarism—issues we must not tolerate if we wish to maintain credibility and align with Wikimedia’s knowledge equity and reliability goals. ::::The Wikimedia Foundation’s Sister Projects Task Force concerns—focused on sustainability, content quality, and alignment with movement goals—should be a wake-up call. Lowering the bar for verification, even temporarily, is not a solution. The mini review format as currently proposed does not produce high-quality, reliable content. Adopting it would risk undermining Wikinews further. ::::That said, I agree that the current review process presents significant obstacles, and that the shortage of active reviewers is likely both a cause and a consequence of this[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Michael.C.Wright/sandbox/The_problem]. However, a replacement process must not result in higher levels of low-quality content. Any reform must improve efficiency without compromising the standards that are essential to the project’s integrity. ::::I’ll also point out a critical conflict between the review process and the archive process: if we were to tolerate more errors out of review (which I do not condone), the current 24-hour window before an article is edit-protected by archiving is far too short to allow necessary corrections. If the community were to shift in that direction, it would require a serious reconsideration of our archiving policies. ::::In summary: ::::* '''I strongly oppose''' the "5w mini review" approach and any abbreviated review that sacrifices accuracy and neutrality. ::::* '''The review process is flawed''', but any replacement must maintain or improve quality standards, not lower them. ::::* '''The archive process conflict''' makes adopting a low-bar review process impractical and risky. ::::I welcome further discussion on how we can improve the review process, attract more contributors, and maintain credibility—but it must start with a commitment to accuracy and balance. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:00, 3 June 2025 (UTC);edited Removed bold. 15:23, 11 June 2025 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]], I agree the review process is a major bottleneck, but it’s also what separates us from Wikipedia and helps prevent ''fake news''. Our archive policy reinforces that by locking content as a snapshot in time. If review were removed, the archive process would need rethinking. What might that look like while still keeping us distinct and credible? —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:33, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ::::::Hello, ::::::* I think we need an online call to discuss this and make a decision. Would @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] and @[[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]] be available? ::::::* This subject has been discussed on-wiki many times. For 'fake news' there are processes in place, such as edits within 24 hours, and corrections. I would be interested to try out a shortcutted review process with 'verify only 5W', and see how many of 'corrections' will be issued over the course of 3 months. If there is too many, the discussion can be revisited. To alleviate 'reputation' issues, we can put a banner at the article, which says 'This article was reviewed with a shortcutted process, involving only verifying the "5W" first paragraph and copyright. Neutrality issues and inaccuracies may be present. You are welcome to 'edit' or 'leave a message' about the content.' I am going to make a subsection for this with 'discussion' and 'votes' to see what will be the outcome. ::::::Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:52, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :::::::I very much want to resolve this quickly and efficiently, but a private call between just three people isn’t the way to do it. This is a project-wide issue, and any discussion about changing core processes like review needs to happen publicly with full community involvement. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 00:58, 4 June 2025 (UTC) {{outdent|7}} Given our current reviewer capacity, we need to affirm that full and complete reviews are currently the only reliable way known to satisfy the mission of Wikinews, as defined at Meta: [[m:Wikinews]] Meta-wiki clearly states: “We cannot rely on the wiki process to improve articles after they are published,” because news receives “very high exposure for a very brief period of time.” Articles must be “accurate and legal at the time of publication,” especially given the added risk from original reporting. Partial reviews, though well-intentioned, often lead to articles being published with unresolved issues around neutrality, attribution, sourcing, or plagiarism. With so few active reviewers, we rarely have capacity to follow up and correct these issues post-publication. It’s also worth noting that the mission statement at [[m:Wikinews]] does not mention frequency of publication. While I fully agree that improving the regularity of article output is important for the project's future, that goal cannot come at the expense of one of Wikinews' core principles: ''neutrality''. Prioritizing speed or volume over accuracy and neutrality undermines both the mission and public trust. I stepped back from earlier discussion because it had become a two-person exchange, and I felt the community needed space for other voices. I'm raising this again because the problem remains unresolved and directly impacts our review standards. Given the risks and our current limitations, we should immediately stop performing any partial reviews until a new, accountable process is defined that satisfies the mission and purpose of English Wikinews. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:49, 12 June 2025 (UTC) :Hello :* I'm afraid I need to disappoint you in your thinking that 'the problem remains unsolved'. The current situation requires full reviews. The proposed changes don't require full reviews; however, they are not currently in force. :* With that in mind, the best course of action for working with high quality and quickly is to get into as many '''real time comms''' as possible. My user page has a bunch of them. If you are on any of them, I encourage you to send me a private message and join a Wikinews-related group. Real time communication allows to tag the user and get their response in real time, and reduce delays. Despite Echo existing, with several users its output is delayed by hours at random points. I cannot rely on it every time. It also leaves the user without knowing what's going on with other articles than the one they've written or edited. :* There are ways to make comms kind of similar to a live chat group about Wikinews, but it would require copying messages from all talk pages of all articles into one water cooler. Or copying messages from talk pages of all articles about Australia to an Australia water cooler. The software is poorly adapted to this. The Wikinews live chat ([[WN:IRC]] works but is not friendly to beginners. I have setup Wikinews groups in discord and telegram and matrix, and messaging me on this platforms (my username on them is listed on my user page) means I can add you to these groups. Hope this is helpful. :* Next step I would like to suggest to have a routine at least 30 minutes a week. I'm routinely available at 5:30pm on Fridays Sydney time for a contact on any of these platforms. Every day I am contactable from 8pm to 10pm in my local time. The [[:w:Maemo]] community has had some success with monthly meetings. At a news site it would be ideally at least twice a week. For heaven's sake, this shouldn't be too difficult. Yet the wiki software lacks any kind of a scheduler, a shared calendar, a doodle, or anything of that sort. That's a shame. I welcome any suggestions what platform to use. :Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:59, 12 June 2025 (UTC) === Proposal 1 from Gryllida: shortcutted review with 5Ws and copyright verification only === {{tl|flag}} I am proposing that a trial is done for 3 months to publish an article after verifying the 5Ws and copyright, without verifying neutrality and without verifying the items which are reported in the further paragraphs. I would be interested to try out a shortcutted review process with 'verify only 5W', and see how many of 'corrections' will be issued over the course of 3 months. If there is too many, the discussion can be revisited. To alleviate 'reputation' issues, we can put a banner at the article, which says 'This article was reviewed with a shortcutted process, involving only verifying the "5W" first paragraph and copyright. Neutrality issues and inaccuracies may be present. You are welcome to 'edit' or 'leave a message' about the content.' I am going to make a subsection for this with 'discussion' and 'votes' to see what will be the outcome. I am hoping this trial will show whether reducing review requirements leads to inaccuracies in reporting and whether it increases the comprehensiveness of the reports. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:53, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ==== Discussion ==== Hi @[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] @[[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] @[[User:Back ache|Back ache]] @[[User:Md Mobashir Hossain|Md Mobashir Hossain]] @[[User:Almondo2025|Almondo2025]], @[[User:Dsuke1998AEOS|Dsuke1998AEOS]], @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]], @[[User:Monsieur2137|Monsieur2137]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], @[[User:Excelblue|excelblue]] (if you want yourself removed or someone else added to this list, please inquire [[Template talk:Pingrr|here]]) [[Category:Revision requested]] A revision has been requested. Here is a list of what to do. (If/when you intend to start working on it, please '''Subscribe to this section and to this talk page''', and post reply messages here when you started and finished editing) See below: 1) Review the discussion above. Add your 'Proposal 2' (or 3 or 4, etc) if you have another idea. 2) Vote or leave a comment on this proposal. Thanks, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:54, 3 June 2025 (UTC) *{{comment}} Gryllida stated above that in April she performed several partial reviews, checking only the 5Ws in the lead and not conducting full reviews. The following month, after the articles were published and in many cases archived, we identified plagiarism in five articles, four of which have been corrected: :* [[Nuclear negotiations between US and Iran commence in Muscat, Oman]] :* [[Explosion in Iran's largest port, Shahid Rajaee, heard 50 km away, leaves dozens killed, thousands injured]] :* [[Sandstorm in Iraq leaves thousands hospitalised]] :* [[South African Civil Aviation Authority attributes helicopter crash to 'unsecured' penguin in the cabin]] :A fifth article has yet to be corrected nearly six weeks later: :* [[Talk:Researchers film colossal squid in its natural habitat for the first time#Copyright material not removed]] :All of these April articles were edit-protected when checked for plagiarism, which significantly delayed the correction process. :One additional article—[[Competitive local elections held in England]]—was not yet archived when issues were identified and was corrected promptly for unsupported and biased statements: :* [[Talk:Competitive local elections held in England#Changes need to be reviewed and sighted]] :Today I identified and removed plagiarism from one article published in May and issued a correction: :* [[Massive power outage hits Spain, Portugal]] :That brings the total to five plagiarism corrections from April and one so far in May—just among the cases we know about. Do we really need to trial this method for three full months to see that it consistently produces low-quality, policy-violating content? Is this the standard of quality we want to present to the Task Force as justification for keeping English Wikinews running? —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 00:51, 4 June 2025 (UTC) ::Let me rephrase this for you. "Gryllida suggests to check for 5W and plagiarism. I will point to instances of failed plagiarism check." Let me reply to this. We have a seemingly working plagiarism checker, this is now less risk. For low quality, unfortunately unlike Wikipedia here articles cannot be editable forever, so those that were not fixed up within 24 hours will be stuffed with a bunch of correction tags at the top. This is not end of world, there is a procedure for this. Let me ask you, why do you think I am proposing this? What will be the advantages? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 13:17, 5 June 2025 (UTC) :::I share the concern that the current review process can be a bottleneck and have been exploring ways to improve it. That said, the recent need to correct (not just a little) plagiarism in several published articles illustrates why certain core checks such as fact verification, plagiarism detection, and neutrality review can’t be optional. In that case, a decision to skip those checks created a significant post-publication burden and left policy violations publicly visible for weeks. While I agree the review process must evolve, I believe we should focus on streamlining it without compromising the basic standards that protect our credibility. We don't "have a seemingly working plagiarism checker" unless the reviewer does the checking. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:40, 5 June 2025 (UTC) ::::Two points: ::::* Quit chatting about the plagiarism, will you do me a favour please? I already unprotected these pages for two weeks and installed earwig link in my face (in each review template) on April 22, and already acknowledged (on that very day) that lack of that facility before was unfortunate and was concerning. The plagiarism checker is unmissable now. Every atom in the world including BigKrow knows of it and chats of it on nearly each article where earwig reports an orange light. ::::* This proposal suggests to '''keep checking for plagiarism''' and placing this discussion here is not constructive. If you want to complain about no check, head over next door to proposal 2. ---> ::::Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 13:54, 5 June 2025 (UTC) :::::Thanks for the clarification. However, this is not simply a side conversation. It is directly relevant to how we approach proposals to narrow the scope of review. :::::This discussion is constructive because it illustrates the tangible risks of minimizing review steps. The addition of the Earwig link to the template is appreciated, but it does not retroactively resolve the issues created before that change, nor does it remove the need to understand why those failures occurred. The link also does not automatically detect or prevent plagiarism. It still requires manual use and judgment by the reviewer. :::::The workload caused by incomplete reviews is still being distributed across multiple contributors. That’s not just a tooling issue. It’s a question of process and responsibility. It remains directly relevant to any discussion about how to reform the review system responsibly. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:16, 5 June 2025 (UTC) ::::::I disagree. Tooling and awareness improved sufficiently. Having some issues pending is not a sufficient excuse to bring that up here. ::::::Yes, for fewer checks it will be needed to involve more people to pick them up. Not only one person writing and one person reviewing. Sorry about that. Two people usually do not succeed at finishing to a high standard and quickly, unless they are working in real time. If you want to keep the standard high, you need to be the one sitting in 15 social media and pinging each author on his or her favourite platform to get them alerted and involved. Just sitting on wiki, without a mobile app to buzz the user's ears off, and expecting magical quick work to prevent staleness will not work. ::::::In short, to get fresher news, in scenario above, responsibility to fix them up quickly will need to be shared. Issues may be tagged and users will then need to fix them. What was not fixed in 24 hours will need to be unmarked and shoved into a correction tag. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:02, 5 June 2025 (UTC) ==== Votes ==== * {{support}} as proposer, as trial for 3 months. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:53, 3 June 2025 (UTC) *:I would not like to be included [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:04, 3 June 2025 (UTC) *Hmm, I haven't thought about this myself, and enwn don't lack huser review like some other languages (such as zhwikinews), but I think there is no harm in giving it a try, and has a certain universal significance, so {{support}} ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 08:46, 4 June 2025 (UTC) *{{oppose}} Lowering standards doesn't produce a sustainable, productive citizen newsgathering operation. It does the opposite. Cf. The Open Globe. As always, if the time spent on this discussion of project invalidity was spent on content, we wouldn't have such a problem and we could better respond to the proposal to close/merge/archive all Wikinews projects. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 17:54, 27 June 2025 (UTC) === Proposal 2 from Gryllida (from Microchip08 above): disable reviews === {{flag}} As Microchip08 suggested above, suggest to get rid of reviews entirely. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 22:09, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :Perhaps article which was published without review can be tagged with 'The article was not reviewed. 5Ws, copyright, and neutrality may be an issue. Use 'EDIT' or 'LEAVE A MESSAGE' as you wish' at the top, until it passed some form of a review. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 22:11, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ==== Discussion ==== Hi @[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] @[[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] @[[User:Back ache|Back ache]] @[[User:Md Mobashir Hossain|Md Mobashir Hossain]] @[[User:Almondo2025|Almondo2025]], @[[User:Dsuke1998AEOS|Dsuke1998AEOS]], @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]], @[[User:Monsieur2137|Monsieur2137]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], @[[User:Excelblue|excelblue]] (if you want yourself removed or someone else added to this list, please inquire [[Template talk:Pingrr|here]]) [[Category:Revision requested]] A revision has been requested. Here is a list of what to do. (If/when you intend to start working on it, please '''Subscribe to this section and to this talk page''', and post reply messages here when you started and finished editing) See below: 1) Review the discussion above. Add your 'Proposal 2' (or 3 or 4, etc) if you have another idea. 2) Vote or leave a comment on this proposal. Thanks, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 22:09, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]] , hi, you may be interested in this https://gryllida.neocities.org/news/writer/v3/index-2, a way to lower entry barrier without binning the beloved "quality" mission for here. Maybe attempting 5Ws discussion there may help with improving writing and reviewing skills for application on wiki. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:38, 15 June 2025 (UTC) ::Wrong URL ::meant to be this, ::https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T396948 ::regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:39, 15 June 2025 (UTC) ==== Votes ==== * {{weak support}}, yet as trial only, for 3 months. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 22:09, 3 June 2025 (UTC) *:This is somewhat similar to the review system of some Wikipedias ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 08:50, 4 June 2025 (UTC) *{{oppose}} Lowering standards doesn't produce a sustainable, productive citizen newsgathering operation. It does the opposite. Cf. The Open Globe. As always, if the time spent on this discussion of project invalidity was spent on content, we wouldn't have such a problem and we could better respond to the proposal to close/merge/archive all Wikinews projects. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 17:54, 27 June 2025 (UTC) === Wikinews closure formally recommended === The Task Force has released a report that formally recommends closing Wikinews. The public consultation is here: [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews]]. {{unsigned|Michael.C.Wright}} == Tech News: 2025-26 == <section begin="technews-2025-W26"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/26|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * This week, the Moderator Tools and Machine Learning teams will continue the rollout of [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/2025 RecentChanges Language Agnostic Revert Risk Filtering|a new filter to Recent Changes]], releasing it to the third and last batch of Wikipedias. This filter utilizes the Revert Risk model, which was created by the Research team, to highlight edits that are likely to be reverted and help Recent Changes patrollers identify potentially problematic contributions. The feature will be rolled out to the following Wikipedias: {{int:project-localized-name-azwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-lawiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-mkwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-mlwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-mrwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-nnwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-pawiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-swwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-tewiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-tlwiki/en}}. The rollout will continue in the coming weeks to include [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/2025 RecentChanges Language Agnostic Revert Risk Filtering|the rest of the Wikipedias in this project]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T391964] '''Updates for editors''' * Last week, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] were rolled out on Czech, Korean, and Turkish Wikipedias. This and next week, deployments on larger Wikipedias will follow. [[mw:Talk:Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|Share your thoughts]] about the project. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T340001] * Later this week, the Editing team will release [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit check#Multi check|Multi Check]] to all Wikipedias (except English Wikipedia). This feature shows multiple [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit check#Reference check|Reference checks]] within the editing experience. This encourages users to add citations when they add multiple new paragraphs to a Wikipedia article. This feature was previously available as an A/B test. [https://analytics.wikimedia.org/published/reports/editing/multi_check_ab_test_report_final.html#summary-of-results The test shows] that users who are shown multiple checks are 1.3 times more likely to add a reference to their edit, and their edit is less likely to be reverted (-34.7%). [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T395519] * A few pages need to be renamed due to software updates and to match more recent Unicode standards. All of these changes are related to title-casing changes. Approximately 71 pages and 3 files will be renamed, across 15 wikis; the complete list is in [[phab:T396903|the task]]. The developers will rename these pages next week, and they will fix redirects and embedded file links a few minutes later via a system settings update. * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:24}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:24|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, a bug was fixed that had caused pages to scroll upwards when text near the top was selected. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T364023] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Editors can now use Lua modules to filter and transform tabular data for use with [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Extension:Chart]]. This can be used for things like selecting a subset of rows or columns from the source data, converting between units, statistical processing, and many other useful transformations. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Transforms|Information on how to use transforms is available]]. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Project/Updates] * The <code dir=ltr>all_links</code> variable in [[Special:AbuseFilter|AbuseFilter]] is now renamed to <code dir=ltr>new_links</code> for consistency with other variables. Old usages will still continue to work. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T391811] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.7|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * The latest quarterly [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Growth/Newsletters/34|Growth newsletter]] is available. It includes: the recent updates for the "Add a Link" Task, two new Newcomer Engagement Features, and updates to Community Configuration. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/26|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W26"/> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 23:20, 23 June 2025 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:Quiddity (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=28870688 --> == Sister Projects Task Force reviews Wikispore and Wikinews == <section begin="message"/> Dear Wikimedia Community, The [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee (CAC)]] of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF)]] to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki [[m:Wikimedia projects|projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF)]]. A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity. Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. '''Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources'''. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact. Moreover, maintaining projects that no longer reflect the quality and reliability of the Wikimedia name stands for, involves a reputational risk. An abandoned or less reliable project affects trust in the Wikimedia movement. Lastly, '''failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones'''. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate. Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended. === Wikispore === The [[m:Wikispore|application to consider Wikispore]] was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects. After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided '''not to recommend''' Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows '''better flexibility''' and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support. We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future. As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting. Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed. === Wikinews === We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways. Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WCNA_2024._Sister_Projects_-_opening%3F_closing%3F_merging%3F_splitting%3F.pdf <nowiki>[1]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#Wikimania_2023_session_%22Sister_Projects:_past,_present_and_the_glorious_future%22 <nowiki>[2]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F <nowiki>[3]</nowiki>] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years. While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews <nowiki>[4]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F <nowiki>[5]</nowiki>, see section 5] as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive_2#Close_Wikinews_completely,_all_languages? <nowiki>[6]</nowiki>]. [[:c:File:Sister Projects Taskforce Wikinews review 2024.pdf|Initial metrics]] compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews. Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs. SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives. '''Options''' mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to: *Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects, *Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace, *Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects, *Archive Wikinews projects. Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels. === Feedback and next steps === We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: [[m:Public consultation about Wikispore|Public consultation about Wikispore]] and [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|Public consultation about Wikinews]]. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language. I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions. <section end="message"/> -- [[User:Victoria|Victoria]] on behalf of the Sister Project Task Force, 20:56, 27 June 2025 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:Johan (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Johan_(WMF)/Sister_project_MassMassage_on_behalf_of_Victoria/Target_list&oldid=28911188 --> == Tech News: 2025-27 == <section begin="technews-2025-W27"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/27|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents extension]] has been enabled on all Wikipedias. The extension makes it easier to organize and participate in collaborative activities, like edit-a-thons and WikiProjects, on the wikis. The extension has three features: [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Event Center/Registration|Event Registration]], [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Collaboration list|Collaboration List]], and [[m:Campaigns/Foundation Product Team/Invitation list|Invitation List]]. To request the extension for your wiki, visit the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Deployment status#How to Request the CampaignEvents Extension for your wiki|Deployment information page]]. '''Updates for editors''' * AbuseFilter maintainers can now [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:IPReputation/AbuseFilter variables|match against IP reputation data]] in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:AbuseFilter|AbuseFilters]]. IP reputation data is information about the proxies and VPNs associated with the user's IP address. This data is not shown publicly and is not generated for actions performed by registered accounts. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T354599] * Hidden content that is within [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Collapsible elements|collapsible parts of wikipages]] will now be revealed when someone searches the page using the web browser's "Find in page" function (Ctrl+F or ⌘F) in supporting browsers. 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The feature is a [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist/Focus areas/Template recall and discovery|community wishlist focus area]]. * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:31}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:31|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, a bug was fixed that had caused some Notifications to be sent multiple times. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T397103] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.8|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/27|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W27"/> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 23:40, 30 June 2025 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:Quiddity (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=28917415 --> 6q07p3vxo5y8a3u1bo3jvod3mpphin6 5007758 5007752 2026-04-13T18:40:45Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 close flag in archive 5007758 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talk archive}} == Tech News: 2025-23 == <section begin="technews-2025-W23"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/23|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Chart extension]] is now available on all Wikimedia wikis. Editors can use this new extension to create interactive data visualizations like bar, line, area, and pie charts. Charts are designed to replace many of the uses of the legacy [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|Graph extension]]. '''Updates for editors''' * It is now easier to configure automatic citations for your wiki within the visual editor's [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Citoid/Enabling Citoid on your wiki|citation generator]]. Administrators can now set a default template by using the <code dir=ltr>_default</code> key in the local <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[MediaWiki:Citoid-template-type-map.json]]</bdi> page ([[mw:Special:Diff/6969653/7646386|example diff]]). Setting this default will also help to future-proof your existing configurations when [[phab:T347823|new item types]] are added in the future. You can still set templates for individual item types as they will be preferred to the default template. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T384709] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:20}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:20|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Starting the week of June 2, bots logging in using <code dir=ltr>action=login</code> or <code dir=ltr>action=clientlogin</code> will fail more often. This is because of stronger protections against suspicious logins. Bots using [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Bot passwords|bot passwords]] or using a loginless authentication method such as [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/OAuth/Owner-only consumers|OAuth]] are not affected. 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It would be similar to 'briefs', but would actually include a table and a recommendation to fit less than 200 words. Here is a proposed template: [[User:Gryllida/template2]]. If this is acceptable, this can be added to the main page and to [[WN:WRITE]] page. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 10:03, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :Example: :*[[Mini: G5 geomagnetic storm strikes southern hemisphere]] :Only 46 words. I'm thinking anything longer would already pose risks with reviewing. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 10:26, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ::To be quite honest filling sources for it was the most time consuming part. And even the table does not click properly, need to double click. Is this adequate software for visual editing...? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 10:27, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :::Maybe easier to work with [[User:Gryllida/template3-submit]] that. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 10:30, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ::Can you also include "How" (5Ws'''+H''')? The idea is pretty cool, and an added bonus is that it would allow for more reviewers to contribute, since the articles are much shorter and thus there is less stuff to verify; there could also be a system of 'limited reviewership' where people who want to become reviewers can start by being granted the right to review the 5W+H briefs. [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 14:09, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ::::I think this is a better alternative to performing a 5W mini review. At least this way the 5W briefs would theoretically (hopefully) get a full and complete review. ::::However, a 5W brief article would amount to encouragement to read our sources rather than getting much meaningful content from Wikinews. A very brief article basically says; ''here are the basic details but go elsewhere to learn more.'' That, to me, does not represent quality and would not be a reason I would frequent Wikinews as a reader or consumer of our content. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:02, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :::::I mean, there are not many takers for the current content anyways; the project is in a death loop, hoping for some intervention which will somehow make the existing model make sense. I think in some ways, it's better to build up some momentum with this 5W+H briefs idea, even if just for a few months, and then see if enough new people show up to do the work of creating longer articles. I think it also makes some sense just as a way to create brief snippets of events and happenings in the world, which can play into both the "Abstract Wikipedia" idea as well as offering something to link to within the Wikinews ecosystem. If nothing else, getting people in the habit of writing the 5W+H briefs would train them to write better articles, and might spark fresh collaborative curiosity. [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 16:12, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :::::Starting a "Wikinews shorts" section to the site would be similar to how many information companies are offering shorter content nowadays, like with YouTube Shorts or Tiktoks. The difference here is that Wikinews briefs can still be linked within the broader Wikimedia ecosystem, meaning that readers are able to quickly go from a brief overview of an event to very detailed content and details on its various aspects and contexts in any of the various sister projects. :::::I think a detail of implementation that might increase consensus for this change would be to limit the number of short articles/force editors to occasionally write a long article, in order to prevent this new feature from overwhelming the site's tradition. But overall, it doesn't make much sense to totally shut down the potential momentum this offers. [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 16:47, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :::::I would frequent Wikinews with the 5W+H as 95% of "news" in mainstream media is vague on these points. They are often missing or wrong. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 13:06, 4 June 2025 (UTC) ===Votes=== *{{support}} [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:11, 5 June 2025 (UTC) == Proposal 3: build a 5W+H database with Wikinews and Wikidata == Proposing to link the 5W+H with Wikidata.The date, who, and when with Wikidata looks easy-ish. And potentially "why" if there is a wikidata object for that. I am requesting your comments, votes, and implementation discussion. If there is a news story then link it to Wikidata item. If not, then generate based on Wikidata and publish as stub, if policies allow it. (See discussion above.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:47, 4 June 2025 (UTC) === Discussion (merit of the idea) === * Hi @[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] @[[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] @[[User:Back ache|Back ache]] @[[User:Md Mobashir Hossain|Md Mobashir Hossain]] @[[User:Almondo2025|Almondo2025]], @[[User:Dsuke1998AEOS|Dsuke1998AEOS]], @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]], @[[User:Monsieur2137|Monsieur2137]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], @[[User:Excelblue|excelblue]] (if you want yourself removed or someone else added to this list, please inquire [[Template talk:Pingrr|here]]) [[Category:Revision requested]] A revision has been requested. Here is a list of what to do. (If/when you intend to start working on it, please '''Subscribe to this section and to this talk page''', and post reply messages here when you started and finished editing) See below: <mark>1) Check this section and leave a comment or a vote.</mark> [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:47, 4 June 2025 (UTC) *:[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], [[User:Gryllida|RockerballAustralia]], [[User:Gryllida|Michael.C.Wright]], [[User:Gryllida|Bddpaux]], [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:48, 4 June 2025 (UTC) * I think it would help to build a more comprehensive catalogue of events. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:47, 4 June 2025 (UTC) === Discussion (feasibility of implementation) === * Going to ask this from Wikidata. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:47, 4 June 2025 (UTC) *:https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Events_database -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:59, 4 June 2025 (UTC) === Votes === * {{support}} if it doable. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:47, 4 June 2025 (UTC) == Proposal 4 from Michael C Wright == Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], you mentioned above that you agree that review process needs to be "streamlined". Please pick '''only one''' actionable item for that and describe it here. I and others will hopefully discuss and vote on it. If you need more than one, add as proposal 5, 6, 7, etc. Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 14:00, 5 June 2025 (UTC) :I’ve already made concrete, actionable proposals. See [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#Markup for developing articles and the review process]], which has been in use and iteratively improved over the past several months. That discussion has been ongoing for over eight months and includes specific, low-impact changes that several contributors are already using successfully. :Rather than introducing a new set of numbered proposals here, I think it’s more constructive to evaluate and build on the work that’s already underway—and to ensure that any streamlining of the review process preserves core standards like sourcing, plagiarism checks, and neutrality. Recent events have made clear that skipping those checks creates more work and reputational risk in the long run. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:44, 5 June 2025 (UTC) ::may i get a plot, the orange line which was in "wikinews is dying" post, updated to include additional weeks to now? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 14:52, 5 June 2025 (UTC) ::By the way, I think it is confusing that you state opinions as facts. You cannot write "Recent events have made clear that skipping those checks creates more work and reputational risk in the long run.", for example; that is an opinion. If I had such opinion, I would write "I am concerned that, as recently it happened, skipping these checks may create more work and reputational risk in the long run". Or something like that. It is a concern. It is not an absolute. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 17:06, 5 June 2025 (UTC) I’m increasingly concerned that this discussion has become a back-and-forth between two people, and that in itself is becoming disruptive to the project. Our goal here should be to examine how we can streamline the review process without sacrificing key standards like plagiarism checks, neutrality, and proper sourcing. I’ve already made proposals in that direction, which are currently in use and being tested. Rather than continuing to debate procedural structure in this thread, I’d welcome broader input from others on how those ideas are working in practice and whether they address the core challenges we face. Ultimately, the focus should stay on quality, sustainability, and collective problem-solving, not on personalities or side threads. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:10, 5 June 2025 (UTC) :So you cannot provide plot. Provide me with the code for it then please. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:34, 5 June 2025 (UTC) == Proposal 5 from Gryllida Notifications app or email setting == Apps to notify users from Echo for: Android, Mac, iOS, Windows. This should help users edit more quickly. As they cannot always eyeball the wiki. Maybe need to investigate how to setup Echo to email each @mention to a user. Is this setting on by default? App would be nicer as not all users get Notofication to their device for email. === Discussion === === Votes : echo 2 email setting on by default === === Votes: Notifications apps === * {{support}} [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:09, 5 June 2025 (UTC) == Tech News: 2025-24 == <section begin="technews-2025-W24"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. 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[3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Resources_for_candidates<section end="announcement-content" /> [[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|talk]]) 17:43, 17 June 2025 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:RamzyM (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=28866958 --> == Future of Wikinews == This might not only be related to English Wikinews but to the Wikinews project in general. The Wikimedia Foundation's Community Affairs Committee [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force Sister Projects Task Force] is planning a public consultation about the long-term viability of the Wikinews model as a sister project. According to the task force, some concerns include the sustainability of community engagement, content quality, and alignment with Wikimedia's goals of knowledge equity and reliability. For now, no new language editions of Wikinews will be created. [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#c-Victoria-20250602104100-Asked42-20250530144700 See a recent discussion related to this]. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:14, 2 June 2025 (UTC) :In light of the above comment, I would like to propose that we, as reviewers, take a proactive approach to address these challenges. :Moving forward, I propose that all reviewers commit to performing full and complete reviews of all draft articles and take no shortcuts in the process for any reason, including speed of publication. While a full and complete review can be time-consuming, it is currently the most reliable way we have to ensure that our content is of acceptable quality, free of unverified or false statements, and fully aligned with our established policies and guidelines. :By reinforcing our commitment to high-quality content, we can help strengthen Wikinews’s credibility and demonstrate the project’s ongoing value to the broader Wikimedia ecosystem. :{{ping|Acagastya|Bawolff|Bddpaux|Chaetodipus|Cromium|Gryllida|Heavy Water|JJLiu112|LivelyRatification|Michael.C.Wright|Microchip08|RockerballAustralia|SVTCobra|ShakataGaNai|Tom Morris|Tyrol5|William S. Saturn}} —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:28, 2 June 2025 (UTC) ::I can see full reviews as problematic, as authors don't keep up with requests. I would suggest making a '5W Brief' format, which should be easier to review. [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous#'5W_Brief'_format]] has a example. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 10:03, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ::Added two proposals below. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 22:15, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], would you possibly consider writing a tiny copy of reFill, to fills sources templates from any URLs in the 'Sources' section? It presents with a edit box in which the changes were implemented, the user just needs to click 'preview' or 'show changes' and 'save'. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 10:25, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :Reviews/FlaggedRevs were originally instituted as a requirement of syndication to Google News. I don't think it was a thing prior to that. Reviews on Wikinews rub against the wiki model, and, coupled with the shortage of reviewers, make it very difficult to recruit/retain contributors. I think we should seriously consider getting rid of reviews entirely. Ultimately, we're currently making the decision to have no news rather than imperfect news – and I don't think that's appropriate. [[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]] ([[User talk:Microchip08|talk]]) 11:20, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]] I agree with you. What do you think of the suggested "mini" 5w brief format I proposed further down the page? Could you please check the two tiny stories I just wrote in that format? While the effort writing them is similar to writing a normal article, I think they stand out as much easier to review and harder to stuff up when writing them. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 11:46, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]] further: what do you think of verifying only the 5Ws in the first paragraph, and not undertaking a full review? I did that several times in April when all other reviewers were on holiday. I did not check beyond "yes, it happened there and then; it is not one sided propaganda; pass". Then @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] strongly opposed this approach. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 11:50, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :::Since there are seemingly only a couple thousands of readers on this site at the moment, it should probably not be seen as a major catastrophe to go a long time without news being published here. So I would personally lean against being too quick with review processes. :::At a minimum, any article that goes through a 'semi-review' process should have all the unreviewed information visibly flagged and perhaps even hidden from readers until checked. [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 12:56, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ::::Gryllida mentioned that I “strongly opposed” her approach, and that’s correct—but with good reason. The demonstrable problems with the abbreviated reviews are well-documented. Articles reviewed in this manner have too often included falsehoods, bias, and plagiarism—issues we must not tolerate if we wish to maintain credibility and align with Wikimedia’s knowledge equity and reliability goals. ::::The Wikimedia Foundation’s Sister Projects Task Force concerns—focused on sustainability, content quality, and alignment with movement goals—should be a wake-up call. Lowering the bar for verification, even temporarily, is not a solution. The mini review format as currently proposed does not produce high-quality, reliable content. Adopting it would risk undermining Wikinews further. ::::That said, I agree that the current review process presents significant obstacles, and that the shortage of active reviewers is likely both a cause and a consequence of this[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Michael.C.Wright/sandbox/The_problem]. However, a replacement process must not result in higher levels of low-quality content. Any reform must improve efficiency without compromising the standards that are essential to the project’s integrity. ::::I’ll also point out a critical conflict between the review process and the archive process: if we were to tolerate more errors out of review (which I do not condone), the current 24-hour window before an article is edit-protected by archiving is far too short to allow necessary corrections. If the community were to shift in that direction, it would require a serious reconsideration of our archiving policies. ::::In summary: ::::* '''I strongly oppose''' the "5w mini review" approach and any abbreviated review that sacrifices accuracy and neutrality. ::::* '''The review process is flawed''', but any replacement must maintain or improve quality standards, not lower them. ::::* '''The archive process conflict''' makes adopting a low-bar review process impractical and risky. ::::I welcome further discussion on how we can improve the review process, attract more contributors, and maintain credibility—but it must start with a commitment to accuracy and balance. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:00, 3 June 2025 (UTC);edited Removed bold. 15:23, 11 June 2025 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]], I agree the review process is a major bottleneck, but it’s also what separates us from Wikipedia and helps prevent ''fake news''. Our archive policy reinforces that by locking content as a snapshot in time. If review were removed, the archive process would need rethinking. What might that look like while still keeping us distinct and credible? —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:33, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ::::::Hello, ::::::* I think we need an online call to discuss this and make a decision. Would @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] and @[[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]] be available? ::::::* This subject has been discussed on-wiki many times. For 'fake news' there are processes in place, such as edits within 24 hours, and corrections. I would be interested to try out a shortcutted review process with 'verify only 5W', and see how many of 'corrections' will be issued over the course of 3 months. If there is too many, the discussion can be revisited. To alleviate 'reputation' issues, we can put a banner at the article, which says 'This article was reviewed with a shortcutted process, involving only verifying the "5W" first paragraph and copyright. Neutrality issues and inaccuracies may be present. You are welcome to 'edit' or 'leave a message' about the content.' I am going to make a subsection for this with 'discussion' and 'votes' to see what will be the outcome. ::::::Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:52, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :::::::I very much want to resolve this quickly and efficiently, but a private call between just three people isn’t the way to do it. This is a project-wide issue, and any discussion about changing core processes like review needs to happen publicly with full community involvement. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 00:58, 4 June 2025 (UTC) {{outdent|7}} Given our current reviewer capacity, we need to affirm that full and complete reviews are currently the only reliable way known to satisfy the mission of Wikinews, as defined at Meta: [[m:Wikinews]] Meta-wiki clearly states: “We cannot rely on the wiki process to improve articles after they are published,” because news receives “very high exposure for a very brief period of time.” Articles must be “accurate and legal at the time of publication,” especially given the added risk from original reporting. Partial reviews, though well-intentioned, often lead to articles being published with unresolved issues around neutrality, attribution, sourcing, or plagiarism. With so few active reviewers, we rarely have capacity to follow up and correct these issues post-publication. It’s also worth noting that the mission statement at [[m:Wikinews]] does not mention frequency of publication. While I fully agree that improving the regularity of article output is important for the project's future, that goal cannot come at the expense of one of Wikinews' core principles: ''neutrality''. Prioritizing speed or volume over accuracy and neutrality undermines both the mission and public trust. I stepped back from earlier discussion because it had become a two-person exchange, and I felt the community needed space for other voices. I'm raising this again because the problem remains unresolved and directly impacts our review standards. Given the risks and our current limitations, we should immediately stop performing any partial reviews until a new, accountable process is defined that satisfies the mission and purpose of English Wikinews. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:49, 12 June 2025 (UTC) :Hello :* I'm afraid I need to disappoint you in your thinking that 'the problem remains unsolved'. The current situation requires full reviews. The proposed changes don't require full reviews; however, they are not currently in force. :* With that in mind, the best course of action for working with high quality and quickly is to get into as many '''real time comms''' as possible. My user page has a bunch of them. If you are on any of them, I encourage you to send me a private message and join a Wikinews-related group. Real time communication allows to tag the user and get their response in real time, and reduce delays. Despite Echo existing, with several users its output is delayed by hours at random points. I cannot rely on it every time. It also leaves the user without knowing what's going on with other articles than the one they've written or edited. :* There are ways to make comms kind of similar to a live chat group about Wikinews, but it would require copying messages from all talk pages of all articles into one water cooler. Or copying messages from talk pages of all articles about Australia to an Australia water cooler. The software is poorly adapted to this. The Wikinews live chat ([[WN:IRC]] works but is not friendly to beginners. I have setup Wikinews groups in discord and telegram and matrix, and messaging me on this platforms (my username on them is listed on my user page) means I can add you to these groups. Hope this is helpful. :* Next step I would like to suggest to have a routine at least 30 minutes a week. I'm routinely available at 5:30pm on Fridays Sydney time for a contact on any of these platforms. Every day I am contactable from 8pm to 10pm in my local time. The [[:w:Maemo]] community has had some success with monthly meetings. At a news site it would be ideally at least twice a week. For heaven's sake, this shouldn't be too difficult. Yet the wiki software lacks any kind of a scheduler, a shared calendar, a doodle, or anything of that sort. That's a shame. I welcome any suggestions what platform to use. :Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 11:59, 12 June 2025 (UTC) === Proposal 1 from Gryllida: shortcutted review with 5Ws and copyright verification only === {{tl|flag}} I am proposing that a trial is done for 3 months to publish an article after verifying the 5Ws and copyright, without verifying neutrality and without verifying the items which are reported in the further paragraphs. I would be interested to try out a shortcutted review process with 'verify only 5W', and see how many of 'corrections' will be issued over the course of 3 months. If there is too many, the discussion can be revisited. To alleviate 'reputation' issues, we can put a banner at the article, which says 'This article was reviewed with a shortcutted process, involving only verifying the "5W" first paragraph and copyright. Neutrality issues and inaccuracies may be present. You are welcome to 'edit' or 'leave a message' about the content.' I am going to make a subsection for this with 'discussion' and 'votes' to see what will be the outcome. I am hoping this trial will show whether reducing review requirements leads to inaccuracies in reporting and whether it increases the comprehensiveness of the reports. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:53, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ==== Discussion ==== Hi @[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] @[[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] @[[User:Back ache|Back ache]] @[[User:Md Mobashir Hossain|Md Mobashir Hossain]] @[[User:Almondo2025|Almondo2025]], @[[User:Dsuke1998AEOS|Dsuke1998AEOS]], @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]], @[[User:Monsieur2137|Monsieur2137]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], @[[User:Excelblue|excelblue]] (if you want yourself removed or someone else added to this list, please inquire [[Template talk:Pingrr|here]]) [[Category:Revision requested]] A revision has been requested. Here is a list of what to do. (If/when you intend to start working on it, please '''Subscribe to this section and to this talk page''', and post reply messages here when you started and finished editing) See below: 1) Review the discussion above. Add your 'Proposal 2' (or 3 or 4, etc) if you have another idea. 2) Vote or leave a comment on this proposal. Thanks, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:54, 3 June 2025 (UTC) *{{comment}} Gryllida stated above that in April she performed several partial reviews, checking only the 5Ws in the lead and not conducting full reviews. The following month, after the articles were published and in many cases archived, we identified plagiarism in five articles, four of which have been corrected: :* [[Nuclear negotiations between US and Iran commence in Muscat, Oman]] :* [[Explosion in Iran's largest port, Shahid Rajaee, heard 50 km away, leaves dozens killed, thousands injured]] :* [[Sandstorm in Iraq leaves thousands hospitalised]] :* [[South African Civil Aviation Authority attributes helicopter crash to 'unsecured' penguin in the cabin]] :A fifth article has yet to be corrected nearly six weeks later: :* [[Talk:Researchers film colossal squid in its natural habitat for the first time#Copyright material not removed]] :All of these April articles were edit-protected when checked for plagiarism, which significantly delayed the correction process. :One additional article—[[Competitive local elections held in England]]—was not yet archived when issues were identified and was corrected promptly for unsupported and biased statements: :* [[Talk:Competitive local elections held in England#Changes need to be reviewed and sighted]] :Today I identified and removed plagiarism from one article published in May and issued a correction: :* [[Massive power outage hits Spain, Portugal]] :That brings the total to five plagiarism corrections from April and one so far in May—just among the cases we know about. Do we really need to trial this method for three full months to see that it consistently produces low-quality, policy-violating content? Is this the standard of quality we want to present to the Task Force as justification for keeping English Wikinews running? —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 00:51, 4 June 2025 (UTC) ::Let me rephrase this for you. "Gryllida suggests to check for 5W and plagiarism. I will point to instances of failed plagiarism check." Let me reply to this. We have a seemingly working plagiarism checker, this is now less risk. For low quality, unfortunately unlike Wikipedia here articles cannot be editable forever, so those that were not fixed up within 24 hours will be stuffed with a bunch of correction tags at the top. This is not end of world, there is a procedure for this. Let me ask you, why do you think I am proposing this? What will be the advantages? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 13:17, 5 June 2025 (UTC) :::I share the concern that the current review process can be a bottleneck and have been exploring ways to improve it. That said, the recent need to correct (not just a little) plagiarism in several published articles illustrates why certain core checks such as fact verification, plagiarism detection, and neutrality review can’t be optional. In that case, a decision to skip those checks created a significant post-publication burden and left policy violations publicly visible for weeks. While I agree the review process must evolve, I believe we should focus on streamlining it without compromising the basic standards that protect our credibility. We don't "have a seemingly working plagiarism checker" unless the reviewer does the checking. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:40, 5 June 2025 (UTC) ::::Two points: ::::* Quit chatting about the plagiarism, will you do me a favour please? I already unprotected these pages for two weeks and installed earwig link in my face (in each review template) on April 22, and already acknowledged (on that very day) that lack of that facility before was unfortunate and was concerning. The plagiarism checker is unmissable now. Every atom in the world including BigKrow knows of it and chats of it on nearly each article where earwig reports an orange light. ::::* This proposal suggests to '''keep checking for plagiarism''' and placing this discussion here is not constructive. If you want to complain about no check, head over next door to proposal 2. ---> ::::Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 13:54, 5 June 2025 (UTC) :::::Thanks for the clarification. However, this is not simply a side conversation. It is directly relevant to how we approach proposals to narrow the scope of review. :::::This discussion is constructive because it illustrates the tangible risks of minimizing review steps. The addition of the Earwig link to the template is appreciated, but it does not retroactively resolve the issues created before that change, nor does it remove the need to understand why those failures occurred. The link also does not automatically detect or prevent plagiarism. It still requires manual use and judgment by the reviewer. :::::The workload caused by incomplete reviews is still being distributed across multiple contributors. That’s not just a tooling issue. It’s a question of process and responsibility. It remains directly relevant to any discussion about how to reform the review system responsibly. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:16, 5 June 2025 (UTC) ::::::I disagree. Tooling and awareness improved sufficiently. Having some issues pending is not a sufficient excuse to bring that up here. ::::::Yes, for fewer checks it will be needed to involve more people to pick them up. Not only one person writing and one person reviewing. Sorry about that. Two people usually do not succeed at finishing to a high standard and quickly, unless they are working in real time. If you want to keep the standard high, you need to be the one sitting in 15 social media and pinging each author on his or her favourite platform to get them alerted and involved. Just sitting on wiki, without a mobile app to buzz the user's ears off, and expecting magical quick work to prevent staleness will not work. ::::::In short, to get fresher news, in scenario above, responsibility to fix them up quickly will need to be shared. Issues may be tagged and users will then need to fix them. What was not fixed in 24 hours will need to be unmarked and shoved into a correction tag. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:02, 5 June 2025 (UTC) ==== Votes ==== * {{support}} as proposer, as trial for 3 months. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 21:53, 3 June 2025 (UTC) *:I would not like to be included [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:04, 3 June 2025 (UTC) *Hmm, I haven't thought about this myself, and enwn don't lack huser review like some other languages (such as zhwikinews), but I think there is no harm in giving it a try, and has a certain universal significance, so {{support}} ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 08:46, 4 June 2025 (UTC) *{{oppose}} Lowering standards doesn't produce a sustainable, productive citizen newsgathering operation. It does the opposite. Cf. The Open Globe. As always, if the time spent on this discussion of project invalidity was spent on content, we wouldn't have such a problem and we could better respond to the proposal to close/merge/archive all Wikinews projects. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 17:54, 27 June 2025 (UTC) === Proposal 2 from Gryllida (from Microchip08 above): disable reviews === {{tl|flag}} As Microchip08 suggested above, suggest to get rid of reviews entirely. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 22:09, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :Perhaps article which was published without review can be tagged with 'The article was not reviewed. 5Ws, copyright, and neutrality may be an issue. Use 'EDIT' or 'LEAVE A MESSAGE' as you wish' at the top, until it passed some form of a review. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 22:11, 3 June 2025 (UTC) ==== Discussion ==== Hi @[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] @[[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] @[[User:Back ache|Back ache]] @[[User:Md Mobashir Hossain|Md Mobashir Hossain]] @[[User:Almondo2025|Almondo2025]], @[[User:Dsuke1998AEOS|Dsuke1998AEOS]], @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]], @[[User:Monsieur2137|Monsieur2137]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], @[[User:Excelblue|excelblue]] (if you want yourself removed or someone else added to this list, please inquire [[Template talk:Pingrr|here]]) [[Category:Revision requested]] A revision has been requested. Here is a list of what to do. (If/when you intend to start working on it, please '''Subscribe to this section and to this talk page''', and post reply messages here when you started and finished editing) See below: 1) Review the discussion above. Add your 'Proposal 2' (or 3 or 4, etc) if you have another idea. 2) Vote or leave a comment on this proposal. Thanks, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 22:09, 3 June 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]] , hi, you may be interested in this https://gryllida.neocities.org/news/writer/v3/index-2, a way to lower entry barrier without binning the beloved "quality" mission for here. Maybe attempting 5Ws discussion there may help with improving writing and reviewing skills for application on wiki. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:38, 15 June 2025 (UTC) ::Wrong URL ::meant to be this, ::https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T396948 ::regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:39, 15 June 2025 (UTC) ==== Votes ==== * {{weak support}}, yet as trial only, for 3 months. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[WN:IRC|live chat]]) 22:09, 3 June 2025 (UTC) *:This is somewhat similar to the review system of some Wikipedias ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 08:50, 4 June 2025 (UTC) *{{oppose}} Lowering standards doesn't produce a sustainable, productive citizen newsgathering operation. It does the opposite. Cf. The Open Globe. As always, if the time spent on this discussion of project invalidity was spent on content, we wouldn't have such a problem and we could better respond to the proposal to close/merge/archive all Wikinews projects. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 17:54, 27 June 2025 (UTC) === Wikinews closure formally recommended === The Task Force has released a report that formally recommends closing Wikinews. The public consultation is here: [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews]]. {{unsigned|Michael.C.Wright}} == Tech News: 2025-26 == <section begin="technews-2025-W26"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/26|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * This week, the Moderator Tools and Machine Learning teams will continue the rollout of [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/2025 RecentChanges Language Agnostic Revert Risk Filtering|a new filter to Recent Changes]], releasing it to the third and last batch of Wikipedias. This filter utilizes the Revert Risk model, which was created by the Research team, to highlight edits that are likely to be reverted and help Recent Changes patrollers identify potentially problematic contributions. The feature will be rolled out to the following Wikipedias: {{int:project-localized-name-azwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-lawiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-mkwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-mlwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-mrwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-nnwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-pawiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-swwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-tewiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-tlwiki/en}}. The rollout will continue in the coming weeks to include [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/2025 RecentChanges Language Agnostic Revert Risk Filtering|the rest of the Wikipedias in this project]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T391964] '''Updates for editors''' * Last week, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] were rolled out on Czech, Korean, and Turkish Wikipedias. This and next week, deployments on larger Wikipedias will follow. [[mw:Talk:Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|Share your thoughts]] about the project. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T340001] * Later this week, the Editing team will release [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit check#Multi check|Multi Check]] to all Wikipedias (except English Wikipedia). This feature shows multiple [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit check#Reference check|Reference checks]] within the editing experience. This encourages users to add citations when they add multiple new paragraphs to a Wikipedia article. This feature was previously available as an A/B test. [https://analytics.wikimedia.org/published/reports/editing/multi_check_ab_test_report_final.html#summary-of-results The test shows] that users who are shown multiple checks are 1.3 times more likely to add a reference to their edit, and their edit is less likely to be reverted (-34.7%). [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T395519] * A few pages need to be renamed due to software updates and to match more recent Unicode standards. All of these changes are related to title-casing changes. Approximately 71 pages and 3 files will be renamed, across 15 wikis; the complete list is in [[phab:T396903|the task]]. The developers will rename these pages next week, and they will fix redirects and embedded file links a few minutes later via a system settings update. * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:24}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:24|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, a bug was fixed that had caused pages to scroll upwards when text near the top was selected. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T364023] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Editors can now use Lua modules to filter and transform tabular data for use with [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Extension:Chart]]. This can be used for things like selecting a subset of rows or columns from the source data, converting between units, statistical processing, and many other useful transformations. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Transforms|Information on how to use transforms is available]]. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Project/Updates] * The <code dir=ltr>all_links</code> variable in [[Special:AbuseFilter|AbuseFilter]] is now renamed to <code dir=ltr>new_links</code> for consistency with other variables. Old usages will still continue to work. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T391811] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.7|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * The latest quarterly [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Growth/Newsletters/34|Growth newsletter]] is available. It includes: the recent updates for the "Add a Link" Task, two new Newcomer Engagement Features, and updates to Community Configuration. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/26|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W26"/> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 23:20, 23 June 2025 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:Quiddity (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=28870688 --> == Sister Projects Task Force reviews Wikispore and Wikinews == <section begin="message"/> Dear Wikimedia Community, The [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee (CAC)]] of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF)]] to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki [[m:Wikimedia projects|projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF)]]. A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity. Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. '''Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources'''. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact. Moreover, maintaining projects that no longer reflect the quality and reliability of the Wikimedia name stands for, involves a reputational risk. An abandoned or less reliable project affects trust in the Wikimedia movement. Lastly, '''failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones'''. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate. Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended. === Wikispore === The [[m:Wikispore|application to consider Wikispore]] was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects. After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided '''not to recommend''' Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows '''better flexibility''' and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support. We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future. As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting. Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed. === Wikinews === We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways. Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WCNA_2024._Sister_Projects_-_opening%3F_closing%3F_merging%3F_splitting%3F.pdf <nowiki>[1]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#Wikimania_2023_session_%22Sister_Projects:_past,_present_and_the_glorious_future%22 <nowiki>[2]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F <nowiki>[3]</nowiki>] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years. While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews <nowiki>[4]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F <nowiki>[5]</nowiki>, see section 5] as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive_2#Close_Wikinews_completely,_all_languages? <nowiki>[6]</nowiki>]. [[:c:File:Sister Projects Taskforce Wikinews review 2024.pdf|Initial metrics]] compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews. Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs. SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives. '''Options''' mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to: *Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects, *Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace, *Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects, *Archive Wikinews projects. Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels. === Feedback and next steps === We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: [[m:Public consultation about Wikispore|Public consultation about Wikispore]] and [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|Public consultation about Wikinews]]. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language. I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions. <section end="message"/> -- [[User:Victoria|Victoria]] on behalf of the Sister Project Task Force, 20:56, 27 June 2025 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:Johan (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Johan_(WMF)/Sister_project_MassMassage_on_behalf_of_Victoria/Target_list&oldid=28911188 --> == Tech News: 2025-27 == <section begin="technews-2025-W27"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/27|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents extension]] has been enabled on all Wikipedias. The extension makes it easier to organize and participate in collaborative activities, like edit-a-thons and WikiProjects, on the wikis. The extension has three features: [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Event Center/Registration|Event Registration]], [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Collaboration list|Collaboration List]], and [[m:Campaigns/Foundation Product Team/Invitation list|Invitation List]]. To request the extension for your wiki, visit the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Deployment status#How to Request the CampaignEvents Extension for your wiki|Deployment information page]]. '''Updates for editors''' * AbuseFilter maintainers can now [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:IPReputation/AbuseFilter variables|match against IP reputation data]] in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:AbuseFilter|AbuseFilters]]. 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The feature is a [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist/Focus areas/Template recall and discovery|community wishlist focus area]]. * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:31}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:31|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, a bug was fixed that had caused some Notifications to be sent multiple times. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T397103] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.8|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/27|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W27"/> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 23:40, 30 June 2025 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:Quiddity (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=28917415 --> ff209izql9snhkuq8toog2sqyc460uv 4 3018603 5007753 4871415 2026-04-13T18:38:48Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 close flag in archive 5007753 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talk archive}} == Hiding page images from infoboxes == [[Players line up for the launch of the Nintendo Switch 2 in New York City|An article of mine]] recently got published, and the [[meta:Extension:PageImage|page image]] is showing [[:File:Desktop computer clipart - Yellow theme.svg]]. I think [[Template:Infobox/p2]] needs to be altered to add <code>|class=notpageimage</code> to the <code><nowiki>[[File:]]</nowiki></code>. [[User:SWinxy|SWinxy]] ([[User talk:SWinxy|talk]]) 19:51, 13 June 2025 (UTC) == Propose to install Page Assessments extension at this wiki == {{tl|flag}} https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PageAssessments?project=Main&namespace=0&page_title= has an example. I propose to (mis)use this extension here by supplying class R submitted for review U under review D draft in progress T has pending tasks specified ...and event date as the importance parameter, followed by "G" symbol for international news like "windows died" or "ubuntu 24.4 released" or "L" for regional news, followed by "m" for minor edut required or "M" for major revision, followed by a custom note Like: Class = D Importance = 2025-05-14 G m add location in first paragraph If submitted for review, importance just says event date and G or L In the report, article is linked and its class as second column and its importance in column 3. I think this would make the page assessment page more useful than the newsroom, and help to prioritise reviewing and collaboration. cc @[[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 16:00, 15 May 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] @[[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] @[[User:Back ache|Back ache]] @[[User:Md Mobashir Hossain|Md Mobashir Hossain]] @[[User:Almondo2025|Almondo2025]], @[[User:Dsuke1998AEOS|Dsuke1998AEOS]], @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]], @[[User:Monsieur2137|Monsieur2137]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], @[[User:Excelblue|excelblue]] (if you want yourself removed or someone else added to this list, please inquire [[Template talk:Pingrr|here]]) [[Category:Revision requested]] A revision has been requested. Here is a list of what to do. (If/when you intend to start working on it, please '''Subscribe to this section and to this talk page''', and post reply messages here when you started and finished editing) See below: :[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], [[User:Gryllida|RockerballAustralia]], [[User:Gryllida|Michael.C.Wright]], [[User:Gryllida|Bddpaux]], [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] :Hi all, please check above. I think you could be ones of the first users of this. :Please click "Reply" to the first message in this section to add a vote or a comment. :Consensus is required before the extension is installed here. :Thanks heaps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 16:03, 15 May 2025 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] @[[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] @[[User:Back ache|Back ache]] @[[User:Md Mobashir Hossain|Md Mobashir Hossain]] @[[User:Almondo2025|Almondo2025]], @[[User:Dsuke1998AEOS|Dsuke1998AEOS]], @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]], @[[User:Monsieur2137|Monsieur2137]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], @[[User:Excelblue|excelblue]] (if you want yourself removed or someone else added to this list, please inquire [[Template talk:Pingrr|here]]) [[Category:Revision requested]] A revision has been requested. Here is a list of what to do. (If/when you intend to start working on it, please '''Subscribe to this section and to this talk page''', and post reply messages here when you started and finished editing) See below: ::1) Please read the above discussion and add your comment or your vote. ::Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:57, 24 May 2025 (UTC) === Discussion === It might be advisable to have some kind of measure of how long a news article is, as well as maybe how many facts/events it covers. Some Wikinews readers may want to have the ability to filter out articles that are too long for them to read, and reviewers may like to prioritize articles that are very short because they are easy to publish. [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 18:47, 24 May 2025 (UTC) :Usually only one 'focal event'. Ok, I can check how to generate report with length. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:30, 25 May 2025 (UTC) :Created [[phab:T397853]]. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:52, 25 June 2025 (UTC) === Votes === '''Strong support''' I am guessing the devil is in the details, but something like this will add a lot of context. Hopefully it can be implemented in a way that allows for easy customization later on i.e. allowing readers to select articles based on their level of importance, etc. [[User:GreekApple123|GreekApple123]] ([[User talk:GreekApple123|talk]]) 16:18, 15 May 2025 (UTC) :I support this idea currently as I spent obscene amounts of time every day checking dates of events in news room to prioritize. The easiest approach could be just to have one parameter 'event date' and nothing else. This would already be much better process for me. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 17:09, 15 May 2025 (UTC) *{{support}} this seems like it would be useful for the wiki. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 14:11, 24 May 2025 (UTC) *{{S}} [[User:Md Mobashir Hossain|Md Mobashir Hossain]] ([[User talk:Md Mobashir Hossain|talk]]) 14:54, 25 May 2025 (UTC) == Older articles all supposedly dated 17 February 2025 == If you try to look back at the older articles in any category, you will soon come to a point where all the older articles are shown with dates of 17 February 2025 -- even when those articles were published in 2024, 2023, or even older years. Example: Start from the Main Page, and click on "Culture and entertainment". That takes you to [[:Category:Culture and entertainment]] which shows the 10 most recent articles. Click on "see older articles", and that takes you to a [[Wikinews:Dialog/do?wikidialogid=8]] page, where there are another 10 articles listed but six of them are incorrectly dated 17 February 2025. (The "Dialog" function is not one I am familiar with, but regardless of how it works, the problem is that article after article shows up with an incorrect date attached.) -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 23:43, 29 June 2025 (UTC) : I believe what you are seeing is the result of work we did to upgrade our CC license around that time. If you click through to one of the articles, their individual publish dates are correct. I believe the date reported in those lists is something akin to "date added to category:Published" and it was modified when we did a mass edit to update our CC license. @[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] did a lot of the heavy lifting with a bot. Maybe they can drill into the issue a bit better?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:17, 30 June 2025 (UTC) ::I think Michael is right, and I don't think there is an easy fix to this without large-scale changes (such as determining the published date for each article manually or programatically). [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 14:57, 30 June 2025 (UTC) ppzuok2tsm5szj7qm459uwqyhidfqoo 10 3019008 5008009 4870051 2026-04-14T11:13:51Z Koavf 5879 5008009 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Documentation subpage}} == Usage == The <nowiki>{{Gallery}}</nowiki> template displays a flexible, auto-wrapped table of images with optional captions, widths, and heights. It supports up to 110 images, each using paired parameters for the file name and its caption. Each image is rendered via the helper template {{tl|Gallery/aux}}. === Basic syntax === <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext"> {{Gallery |title=Gallery Title (optional) |1=File:Example1.jpg |2=Caption for image 1 |3=File:Example2.jpg |4=Caption for image 2 |5=File:Example3.jpg |6=Caption for image 3 ... |footer=Optional footer text }} </syntaxhighlight> === Example === <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext"> {{Gallery |title=Sample image gallery |1=File:Sunset.jpg |2=Sunset over mountains |3=File:Ocean.jpg |4=Waves crashing on shore |5=File:Forest.jpg |6=Misty woodland |footer=All photos are licensed CC-BY-SA. }} </syntaxhighlight> == Parameters == === Global settings === * <code>style=</code> – CSS styling for the outer table. Default: <code>background:transparent; border:1px solid #f0f0f0;</code> * <code>align=</code> – Optional alignment of the gallery (e.g., <code>center</code>, <code>left</code>, <code>right</code>). * <code>title=</code> – Optional title displayed above the image grid. * <code>footer=</code> – Optional footer displayed below the gallery. * <code>width=</code> – Default width (px) for all images. Default: 180. * <code>height=</code> – Default height (px) for all images. Default: 180. * <code>cellwidth=</code> – Width of each cell. Default: 180. * <code>lines=</code> – Number of lines allowed for captions. Default: 2. * <code>boxform=</code> – Optional formatting style for image boxes. === Image-specific parameters === Each image is defined in pairs: * <code>1=</code>, <code>3=</code>, ..., <code>219=</code> – File names (e.g., <code>File:Example.jpg</code>) * <code>2=</code>, <code>4=</code>, ..., <code>220=</code> – Captions * <code>alt1=</code>, <code>alt2=</code>, ..., <code>alt110=</code> – Optional alt text for each image * <code>width1=</code>, <code>width2=</code>, ..., <code>width110=</code> – Optional custom width per image == Notes == * Supports up to 110 images. * Images are auto-wrapped based on available horizontal space. * Captions automatically break into multiple lines, controlled by the <code>lines=</code> parameter. * Custom alt text and per-image widths allow for fine-tuning accessibility and layout. == See also == * {{tl|Gallery/aux}} – helper used by this template * {{tl|Gallery}}/sandbox – for testing edits == Template data == <templatedata> { "description": "Displays up to 110 images in an auto-wrapping table, each with a caption and customizable dimensions.", "params": { "title": { "label": "Title", "description": "Optional title displayed above the gallery", "type": "string" }, "footer": { "label": "Footer", "description": "Optional footer displayed below the gallery", "type": "string" }, "style": { "label": "Style", "description": "Custom CSS style for the outer table", "type": "string" }, "align": { "label": "Align", "description": "Alignment of the gallery (left, center, right)", "type": "string" }, "width": { "label": "Default width", "description": "Default width for images", "type": "number", "default": "180" }, "height": { "label": "Default height", "description": "Default height for images", "type": "number", "default": "180" }, "cellwidth": { "label": "Cell width", "description": "Width of each image cell", "type": "number", "default": "180" }, "lines": { "label": "Caption lines", "description": "Max number of caption lines", "type": "number", "default": "2" }, "boxform": { "label": "Box form", "description": "Optional formatting override for image boxes", "type": "string" } }, "paramOrder": ["title", "footer", "style", "align", "width", "height", "cellwidth", "lines", "boxform"] } </templatedata> <includeonly><!-- Add categories here if needed --></includeonly> <noinclude> [[Category:Wikinews templates]] </noinclude> rb86z7gso24qpwjnsex4g5lbiuu9s44 4 3048905 5007567 5003925 2026-04-13T13:07:27Z UndueMarmot 2953653 fix link to more discussions on this topic 5007567 wikitext text/x-wiki In light of [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2025/November#Results of the consultation about Wikispore and Wikinews|WMF hosting of Wikinews going away]] it is necessary to arrange for migration off-site to continue news work. Considerations are listed below. Please add your comments and volunteer at talk page. 1. Name and geographical location of new hosting. * in discussion 2. Volunteers willing to pay for new hosting. This can be from charities, Wikimedia Charters, or personal expenses. * 1 user; to be updated 3. Volunteers willing to do budgeting and accounting: find out how much this will cost. * 2 users (in part); to be updated 4. System administration to install software and work around security vulnerabilities * 1 user; to be updated 5. Confirmation of name. Are we allowed to use Wikinews trademark * in discussion 6. Feature requirements * anyone can make or edit a page * peer review (currently done via flagged revs) * able to include images from Wikimedia Commons * able to translate to other languages * different mods/admins in different language sections * a few days after published, a page becomes read-only * what did i miss? [[Category:Wikinews]] 1ull15rlfse5f5c62myg5a1jmqzo8uc 2 3054707 5008020 4955881 2026-04-14T11:16:47Z Koavf 5879 removed [[Category:Wikinews users]]; added [[Category:Wikinewsies]] using [[Help:Gadget-HotCat|HotCat]] 5008020 wikitext text/x-wiki This is an auxiliary account associated with the username “Hamedbh”. It is used for limited editing, testing, or maintenance tasks within Wikinews. For main contributions, see: [[User:Hamedbh]] --- 이 계정은 “Hamedbh” 사용자와 연관된 보조 계정입니다. 위키뉴스에서 테스트, 제한된 편집, 유지 관리 작업 등을 위해 사용됩니다. 주요 기여는 [[User:Hamedbh]] 문서를 참고하세요. [[Category:Wikinewsies]] nsb575hf223gd0r38zbmdyfko9b0czs 4 3064220 5007754 4979865 2026-04-13T18:39:12Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 close flag in archive 5007754 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Talkarchive}} == Proposed next steps following SPTF recommendations == I think we should immediately get back to the job of publishing articles and focus on addressing some of the recommendations in the report. A proposed order of priorities is below. '''Proposal:''' We should prioritize our response to the legitimate concerns of the SPFT as follows: # Initiate a project to identify [[:Category:Pages using the DynamicPageList extension|all pages using DPL]] (unsupported extension) and migrate away from it. # <strike>Initiate a project to migrate away from [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LiquidThreads LiquidThreads] (Unsupported extension)</strike> # Initiate a project to reform our [[WN:Archive]] and [[Wikinews:Reviewing articles]] policies (I believe the combination of the two policies as currently written is our biggest hurdle to higher publication rates[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Michael.C.Wright/sandbox/The_problem]) @[[User:Victoria|Victoria]], any input on the above priorities would be most welcome. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:41, 23 July 2025 (UTC) :As far as I can understand, this all would be positive things. [[User:Victoria|Victoria]] ([[User talk:Victoria|talk]]) 10:50, 24 July 2025 (UTC) === Comments and questions === === Votes === {{Support}} I don't have any constructive ideas about this yet, but as a still active user, I'd like to express my support first. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 23:49, 29 July 2025 (UTC) : {{question}} @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]], is it easy enough to change EasyPeerReview to stop creating new Comment pages with each article? Those utilize Liquid threads and since we need to get rid of that extension, this would be a logical first-step. We could then (hopefully) decide as a community what to do with all of the existing comment pages (''if'' we are technically able to keep them post-uninstall). : {{question}} Would you also be willing to do some additional support work on EasyPeerReview while we figure out how to reform the review process? I have some ideas that will comply with current policy and guidelines but give us latitude to change some things slightly. Thanks in advance (on both questions). : {{comment}} I've also emailed the developer of LiquidThreads in hopes of getting more information on how to migrate off of it and if we can preserve any existing content in the Comment pages.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:51, 6 August 2025 (UTC) ::Re: EasyPeerReview - yes i can if that is desired. Regarding LQT - the official replacement is DiscussionTools (which is in use on this wiki) you might want to consider if that is good enough for comments namespace. LQT is very unmaintained at this point and also very complex, WMF devs would probably be happy to turn it off if possible. Re DPL - i would dispute Victoria's claim its unmaintained. I don't see any reason for enwikinews to migrate away from it at this time, although this should probably be a broader discussion with developers (esp. Ladsgroup). [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:38, 6 August 2025 (UTC) :::In any case, if there is an issue with DPL its not really about maintainership but query scalability. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 18:40, 6 August 2025 (UTC) ::: @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]], regarding LiquidThreads, it appears that if we just turn it off, we disconnect any comments from the page. I tested using <nowiki>{{#useliquidthreads:0}}</nowiki> on a comment page[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Comments:Cuomo_concedes_to_Mamdani_in_Democratic_primary_election_for_New_York_City_mayor&oldid=4872823] and it no longer displayed the existing comment. I've seen where other projects have used a bot to reformat LT comments to standard Talk page comments[https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T350164#9644588] but I don't see how to do that easily. ::: If we merely disable liquid threads now, what happens to old comments? ::: Thanks again for your help with this.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:20, 7 August 2025 (UTC) ::::I imagine there would have to be some solution to convert lqt to normal pages. There might be something already existing for that. In any case, i think having a migration path would be a precondition to disabling. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 21:43, 7 August 2025 (UTC) ::::: > ''I imagine there would have to be some solution to convert lqt to normal pages.'' ::::: I agree. I probably should’ve been more direct. Apologies if I wasn’t clear. Are you aware of any official or unofficial guidance on how to migrate away from LiquidThreads and convert those pages to a more standard format?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:35, 7 August 2025 (UTC) ::::::I have no idea, but im sure someone would be willing to make something. P.s. on the subject of DPL, if we were to move away from it, we could probably replicate some of its functionality with lua scripts, if we make the publish script add the article to a giant json file of all published articles. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 18:44, 8 August 2025 (UTC) {{outdent|6}}Regarding DPL, I think to make our decision we might benefit from knowing: # Is our current use supported? # Is our current use sustainable? # Aside from importing very large numbers of new articles[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#c-Johnuniq-2021-07-29T07:24:00.000Z-Krassotkin-2021-07-29T06:46:00.000Z] and/or assigning more than ~1,000,000 new articles to categories[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#c-Ghuron-2021-07-29T10:02:00.000Z-Krassotkin-2021-07-29T06:46:00.000Z], what else should we be cautious of? Any other things that you might find useful to help the community make the decision? I think I've created a User talk page at fa.WP and pinged LadsGroup there, which I believe is their home wiki. Hopefully that helps. > ''...we make the publish script add the article to a giant json file of all published articles.'' We'd need a JSON extension installed for that, correct? I agree that keeping DPL would be convenient and the easiest path. But adding JSON functionality might allow us to also start tracking article workflow history even after articles are deleted (I don't want to get to far afield, but a little forward-thinking never hurts). I believe ru.WN replaced DPL with date categories and DEFAULTSORT. Would this be easier than the JSON route? —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:09, 8 August 2025 (UTC) :Keep in mind that a lot of WMF staff are either at Wikimania, or traveling to/from it. Nothing needs to be decided right now, I'm sure ladsgroup will respond when he is back home. Regarding DPL - typically it scales with the size of the smallest specified category. In the context of Wikinews, probably we should say the size of Category:Published is what to look at, as pretty much all usages of DPL use that category. Some of the alternative sort options are sometimes less efficient than the normal "categoryadd" method. The main thing that did ruwikinews in was two fold - first the size of the categories ballooned because they imported a billion articles, but also they had an infobox on all those pages with a DPL, which all had to be rendered at the same time. Thus the DPLs started taking much longer to render, and there was a large number that all were rendered at once. (On the political side, they seemed very unapologetic that they were causing downtime. Pro-tip, if you ever do anything that takes down all Wikimedia sites, apologize perfusely or the rest of Wikimedia is going to hate you, and be very cautious about intentionally doing the same thing over again a second time) :Regarding the JSON idea. This wouldn't require any other extensions. Basically there would be a list at [[Module:SomeModule/articles.json]] (possibly split up between multiple lists). Any time someone publishes an article, the easy peer review script would add to that list and include what categories the article is in as well as the date. Templates could load that list (via [[mw:Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual#mw.loadJsonData|mw.loadJsonData]] and essentially emulate DPL, at least for lists of published articles (It wouldn't work for other uses of DPL, like what articles are disputed or what not. Some features of DPL would not work). There are some ways this is hacky. It also has scaling issues (The list of articles can be at most 2MB long and it might be a bit harder on page parsing). But it would probably work as a fallback solution if DPL is no longer viable. :The other option for replacing DPL that gets thrown around sometimes, is having it be based off the search system. Search supports incategory: to do category intersection and also supports different orderings, so in theory a DPL like system could be made that runs off the search backend. :I've also heard some comments that devs may be happier with DPL if its features were pared back and it just did its core use case. I'm not sure exactly what this would entail as at first glance the core use case seems like the problematic one, but perhaps something could be done in this direction. :As far as maintenance of the extension goes - I used to feel I was maintaining it (not actively adding stuff, but if any serious issues came up, fixing them) however i notice that recently there was a fairly major issue i wasn't even aware of, so perhaps i have not been doing this. :On LQT, i asked around, and apparently there is a script to convert to flow, and a second script to convert flow -> normal pages. I don't know if that is the best approach or not. I think the community should more focus on what its will is here, and then once that is decided think about the how. FWIW, there are currently 5 wikis using liquid threads (Plus 8-ish wikis that have made LQT read only), so its not like wikinews is the last hold out here. It seems like the migration strategy on other wikis has been to just make LQT read only but leave it enabled. By a similar token there are lots of Wikis using DPL. This includes English Wikisource and Wikiquote, which quite frankly are way way too big for this extension. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 06:15, 10 August 2025 (UTC) * {{oppose|objection}} that the 3 items were clustered together for vote,i just split it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 17:59, 6 August 2025 (UTC) * Regarding LiquidThreads, if we are moving forward to discontinue the extension but still want to keep the comment section approach alive, I might have a decent idea. A few months ago I started preparing a script that displays a comment box and a few recent comments at the end of articles (though I stopped working on it due to closure related situation). :Currently, the comments made by users are stored and fetched from the talk page. We could instead make it fetch from the Comment namespace if required. (Note: This script can only fetch comments from wikitext; it will not be compatible with existing LiquidThreads comments.) This would provide a direct user comment interface on the article itself, showing a few recent comments. Users could also like a comment or choose a custom profile icon image for their posts. :I’m not completely sure whether this would help if we discontinue LiquidThreads while still trying to keep the comment section alive or even make it more engaging, but I just wanted to put this idea out there. If the community shows interest, I can start working on the script again based on suggestions. :Anyone who wants to try it out can do so, but unfortunately it is currently only available in Bengali. You may need to enable Google Translate in your browser. To test it, go to [https://test.wikipedia.org/ test.wikipedia], install [https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Asked42/sandbox1.js this script] in your common.js, and then visit [https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Asked42/sandbox1 this page]. At the bottom of the page you should see a comment section. :Here is a screenshot of that comment section (texts are in Bengali): [[:File:Bangla wikinews comment section script.gif]]. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:50, 16 August 2025 (UTC) :: I got it working at testpedia (they missed an opportunity in not using that name). Working around the Bangali is a bit of a challenge but I really like the idea. :: From what I gather from old conversations, en.WN originally went with liquidthreads with the goal of making comments easy for non-wiki people who didn't understand talk pages. :: I think having this 'front end' directly in the article could help make the pages appear more interactive and may encourage more interaction via comments. I'd like to be able to kick the tires more if possible. I don't know how easy it would be to put together a proof of concept here, so I don't know how much I'm asking of you. I also don't know what kind of receptivity it will have. We have very low activity and very high resistance to many things at the moment.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 20:18, 18 August 2025 (UTC) ==== Votes on disabling DPL ==== * {{question}} @[[User:Ladsgroup|Ladsgroup]] hi, please comment: is DPL actively maintained? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:02, 6 August 2025 (UTC) *:@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] My apologies for late response. It is not actively maintained. It's not owned by any team at WMF and as result it won't be fixed if any major issues happens. Devs update it in case by case basis but no. It's not maintained per se. Does that answer your question? [[User:Ladsgroup|Ladsgroup]] ([[User talk:Ladsgroup|talk]]) 19:10, 10 August 2025 (UTC) *::Ok, thanks. It does answer my question. Could you please confirm: would two users appointing themselves as maintainers be sufficient to call it "maintained"; and who are the top 5 authors of it according to git. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:29, 10 August 2025 (UTC) *:::It wouldn't. Volunteers can come and go at any time. A software is considered maintained when a team at WMF is a steward of it officially so if someone leaves, the team still stays responsible. See [[mw:Developers/Maintainers]] [[User:Ladsgroup|Ladsgroup]] ([[User talk:Ladsgroup|talk]]) 22:54, 11 August 2025 (UTC) * {{question}} i agree with @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] that DPL is useful on this wiki. it helps to be able to '''subscribe to a category or intersection of categories using rss'''. i am concerned how @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], @[[User:Victoria|Victoria]], @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] propose to replace DPL with something else that provides this functionality. this was not mentioned above?? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:02, 6 August 2025 (UTC) *:Technically the RSS feed is part of a different extension not DPL. Although fundamentally they work the same way. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 18:25, 6 August 2025 (UTC) *::Does rss with its category intersection work, if DPL is disabled? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:22, 10 August 2025 (UTC) *:::yes, [[mw:Extension:GoogleNewsSitemap]] is entirely separate from DPL. That said it would be surprising to keep one but not the other since they work the same way. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 17:14, 10 August 2025 (UTC) *::::Worth noting that this extension is also unmaintained and unowned. [[User:Ladsgroup|Ladsgroup]] ([[User talk:Ladsgroup|talk]]) 19:12, 10 August 2025 (UTC) * We rely heavily on DPL. It powers the "Latest news" section of our main page and nearly every infobox across articles. : As Ladsgroup noted [[#c-Ladsgroup-20250810191000-Gryllida-20250806180200|here]], “it won’t be fixed if any major issues happen.” : That means if DPL suffers a serious failure, the impact on en.WN will be immediate and obvious. Readers could lose the ability to navigate related articles through infoboxes, or worse, see red error messages wherever DPL is used. : Compounding this, we currently have very few active admins with the technical expertise to address such an issue if it arises. : Given these risks, I think we should start discussing alternatives to DPL, at least for critical areas like the main page and article infoboxes. : The idea presented by @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] of using JSON seems compelling and might provide us with additional metadata per article to use in tracking and improving our workflows. : Are there more ideas and perspectives on this? What alternatives do others see as viable, and how might we structure a transition plan if we decide to move away from DPL?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 20:36, 18 August 2025 (UTC) ==== Votes on moving away from liquid threads ==== * {{neutral}} i have no strong opinion [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:02, 6 August 2025 (UTC) * {{comment}} This seems like a good idea. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 04:53, 4 November 2025 (UTC) ==== Votes on revision to archival policies ==== * {{question}} what is this vote about. what are the proposed changes? i would only support making categorie of published article editable, but not content. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:02, 6 August 2025 (UTC) *: This part of the proposal invites us to reconsider our review and archival processes. Concerns about low publication rates suggest these policies, as they interact, may be part of the problem. :: I haven’t proposed specific reforms yet. I’d first like to see if there’s consensus that some change is needed. If so, we can shape the details together. :: At [[m:Talk:Public consultation about Wikinews]], several participants pointed to rigid internal processes as a barrier to contribution, a concern that has merit. One theme in the task force report is that Wikinews may lean too heavily into formal journalism at the expense of wiki-based collaboration. While our commitment to original reporting, neutrality, and verification must remain central, we should consider where a shift toward the wiki model could reduce barriers and invite more participation. :: This isn’t about lowering standards. It’s about adapting to meet current challenges while preserving what makes Wikinews unique. I welcome others’ ideas on how we might improve review and archiving.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:42, 7 August 2025 (UTC) * {{comment}} +1 to Michael's comment above. This seems like the most critical issue for projects whose editors get stuck partway through a complex multi-step process. I see a lot of articles being deleted after a month, or etched in stone despite not being very good yet. This keeps volume low, prevents the sort of popular timeline or often-updated articles that wikis are good at, and is unfriendly to a wide range of editing styles. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 04:53, 4 November 2025 (UTC) == Recruitment == Let's talk about some ways we might be able to draw in and retain new drafters. Gryllida has already proposed a few ways we can help them develop skills after they've had a chance to decide that Wikinews is worth their donated time and work. * Talk to any first-time drafters who clearly aren't bots or advertisers (and even a few that are, perhaps; you never know the paid image manager who might decide to come here as a hobby) and cultivate a friendly atmosphere. ** Lose the toxic elements of our culture (most of you have seen my take on this elsewhere) **Accept step-by-step, incremental improvement toward solid drafting; ballpark timeline of one year before any drafter regularly submits one-and-done drafts. *Actively pitch Wikinews as a practice ground to universities with journalism programs. This is best done by users with Wikinews email addresses. We had an Australian journalism school come here once. *Actively recruit users sanctioned on other Wikiprojects. Because we're not a Wikipedia, some people who got blocked from a Wikipedia or another project are still perfectly good candidates for Wikinews. Was the person blocked for WP:OWN behavior? That's not a problem here. Some of our reviewers have expressed a preference for single-drafter drafts. Was the person topic banned for poor sourcing, like [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Flavor_of_the_Month&diff=prev&oldid=1300151218 this person]? Tell them that Wikinews is a great place to practice sourcing skills (which they can then rub in their accusers' faces, heh heh heh! Spite journalism is still journalism!). I mean ...there's me? I got blocked from WP (long story) and then I became one of Wikinews' most productive drafters. I ''did'' cite my time on Wikinews as part of an unblock request at Wikipedia, and I think it helped. The Simple English Wikipedia affirmatively discourages people treating their site like a proving ground to get unblocked elsewhere, but they're a Wikipedia, and what causes problems on en.wiki usually causes problems on simple.wiki. It could work for us. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 13:12, 10 August 2025 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] :Yes talk to newbies - requires effort - if 24/7 then helper gets burned out, was common issue - suggest you dedicate one day a week for it to babysit one article a week, plus stay tuned for their follow up edits ? Do we need a roster ? Wikipedia has Welcomittee for it, maybe borrow from there :Yes recruit from unis - you wanna do it? Or compile a list of unis and who lectures journslism And key contacts please ? :yes get those who banned, but also scan enwp new pages for news - and transfer them here (they stupidly delete them) :Regards [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:31, 10 August 2025 (UTC) ::For bullet point #1, I don't think we should have strict rules or quotas. It's about cultivating relationships, and that's more art than science. ::For bullet point #2, who here has an @wikinews address and/or has already disclosed their legal name publicly anyway? I do not already have any contacts. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 13:36, 10 August 2025 (UTC) :::1. Not quota, you pick for yourself. I just suggest helping newbies 24/7/365 may burn out, hence i suggest srlf imposed breaks. :::2. A email user is required to send emails. Anyone can compile a list of contacts collaboratively I think, this would be super helpful. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:39, 10 August 2025 (UTC) ::::1) Yes, that's good, but it sounded like you were proposing a rule REQUIRING helpers to keep to a schedule. ::::2) Okay, here's one. I search engine "journalism program," I figure the most prestigious programs don't need us and feel a state school might be the thing... City College of New York? Perfect! And here's there contact page: https://www.ccny.cuny.edu/journalism/contact Took less than one minute. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 13:45, 10 August 2025 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] why are we discussing recruiting new people when we can't supposed the userbase we have? Unless there is a way to directly recruit reviewers, or more quickly create them, we are creating more of a backlog for the reviewers we have. As far as I'm aware many things have been waiting to be reviewed for over a week now. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 17:52, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::::::Check the dates on the discussion, T. This was last summer. I agree that article review is our limiting reagent. ::::::I was going to suggest that you put yourself up for reviewership, even with only four drafted articles under your belt, but now I see that none of them have gone through review. They weren't rejected. Rather, they're still in limbo. Through no visible fault of your own, I do not think making you a reviewer at this time would happen. ::::::But promoting from within might work. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 18:03, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :::::::I have one published article I had a big hand in at the beginning of the year, but only recently had time to try to help out here. However, I think this is indicative that somehow the system is not working - there does not seem to be a way to deal with a lack of reviewers; this is an oversight isn't it? I'm seeing people posting on talk pages about leaving this after contributing for months, because of this. Can we suggest to them that they become reviewers? People seem to feel resigned to failure of this site. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 19:34, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :::::::: We have one open reviewer request that has been long open but getting nowhere. We recently had another that failed. :::::::: Anyone is free to nominate themselves for reviewer and anyone is free to nominate anyone else as a reviewer. :::::::: However, reviewers are expected to review and publish based on existing policy. Therefore I would say that policy and guideline reform is our "upstream" problem. More reviewers can compensate for the issues we have through brute-force, but to really change things, we need to reform both our review process[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Michael.C.Wright/Review_process_study] and the [[WN:Archive]] policy.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:48, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :::::::::You are saying that, besides there being apparently no interest in reviewing articles, there is also no interest in reviewing reviewers? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 22:26, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::🤔I actually know some people working in Australian high schools, but I don’t really have any good ideas about it.😂 ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 11:10, 30 October 2025 (UTC) {{outdent|9}}I’m not saying there’s "no interest." The reality is that we have very few active reviewers, and the reasons likely vary. For some it’s possibly a lack of time or interest, for others the process may feel tedious, or maybe they're not interested in the debates that often surround reviewing when it doesn't go the way a contributor wanted it to go. The same is true of the slow progress on the current reviewer request. There’s no single explanation, but it reflects the broader issue we’re grappling with. At the same time, there’s a disconnect worth highlighting: while there’s no shortage of complaints about the lack of reviewers, we also see relatively little peer participation. Few people use {{tl|Pre-review}} on others’ drafts, offer copyedits, or engage on article talk pages to resolve issues before review. I even added a note below the review-request template suggesting that, once someone has triple-checked their own article, they take time to check others. That’s fundamentally what reviewing is: applying policies and guidelines to other people's articles help ensure quality. The fact that this kind of proactive collaboration is rare points to the deeper problem; the workflow itself discourages participation. That’s why I keep coming back to the same conclusion: the process is flawed and needs serious, thoughtful reform if we want to change these patterns. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:49, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :I agree this workflow needs to be easier. As far as I know, the way to find articles that need help is going directly to the Categories for Developing/Review. These should all be easily found in a central location for instance. I think another thing that we can capitalize on, as I've seen you mention, is collaboration. We should discourage ownership of articles. This removes some of the pressure to - on en.wiki, many great contributors don't edit every day. There's no reason we can't have something like that here. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 23:12, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::I was advised to create a thread at [[Wikinews talk:Newsworthiness]] but not many people seem to be commenting on it. How did we make any progress if no one is interested in the workflow issues here? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 18:08, 13 October 2025 (UTC) ::: It could be that others don't necessarily agree with what you are saying and don't want to argue about it...not that no one is interested in workflow issues here. It could also be that they might agree fully and don't feel the need to add anything. You may be reading intent where there isn’t any and framing the situation as an either/or choice between discussing your specific approach or not wanting progress, which might not reflect how others see it.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 20:04, 9 November 2025 (UTC) @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] i think we need to fill the gaps (software tooling, reviewing, editing). some of these tasks cannot be done by existing users because they know how to write but they do not have coding or copyediting skills. i think that best works with a regular such as fortnightly audio meeting where all pending tasks are noted and someone takes them. without such meetings there is issue that tasks are scattered across wiki and maybe not noticed. another thing that could work is making some training step by step, i tried at [[Wikinews:Education-Gryllida]] but this is such a manual process that i also walked away. [[Wikinews:Training/Members]] was unusable too and nobody signed up. i have no energy to continue any of that currently. :-( (please note i got tired from making [[User:Gryllida/Newsroom]] by hand and would appreciate if there was a script that asks users to specify event dates for pages and generates a report in a table. any help would be appreciated. before then, any spare time i got is spent deleting pages and annotating them with event dates and i stopped doing it because i burned out.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:51, 17 October 2025 (UTC) == Leadership == {{tl|flag}} The late {{User|Brian McNeil}} used to be key leader of the project. Now we don't appear to have a leader. As @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] pointed out a few times, he does not consider me as authority. In a recent discussion, he said he does not recognise anyone as authority. I think we need to have a discussion about leadership at Wikinews. I am suggesting that everyone discuss to propose a candidate who has features * can commit significant amount of time, * is well organised and approachable, * is newsy (that is, understands clearly how Wikinews is different from Wikipedia; is actively able to collaborate, including across different language editions). Maybe multiple candidates from different language Wikinews. The role of such user would be to * train new users as reviewers * train new users as reporters * proactively make decisions whom to nominate for reviewer or for reporter * proactively schedule effort to develop software and workflows that help to make Wikinews more efficient * proactively follow recent developments in Wikimedia and in citizen journalism to introduce changes to Wikinews if needed Hope there are some thoughts about this. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:21, 15 August 2025 (UTC) :To clarify my point: in a recent exchange, I responded strongly to the idea that one user can “expect” things of another. I want to explain why. :In a consensus-based project like Wikinews, no individual holds authority over others. The only expectations that carry weight are those grounded in our shared policies and principles, especially those like [[WN:IAR]], which places the project's well-being above rigid rule-following. We are all peers, each responsible for contributing to the health and integrity of the project. :When someone says “I expect you to…”—unless it’s clearly rooted in policy or consensus it risks implying a level of authority that doesn’t exist here. That’s not how this project works, and it’s not how it should work. :We can and should hold each other accountable to our shared values. But authority in this space comes from trust, not title; from example, not expectation. :I also find it problematic that this discussion was framed around whether I recognize Gryllida, or anyone, as an authority. That framing shifts the focus from the health of the project to interpersonal dynamics and perceived status. It misrepresents my position and risks undermining the foundational principle of consensus-based collaboration. :My stance is not about any one person. It’s about the structure of this project: authority here comes from shared policy, collective action, and earned trust, not from role, title, or expectation. Suggesting that one user’s refusal to recognize another as an authority is a reason to propose centralized leadership misdiagnoses the issue. It treats horizontal resistance to hierarchy as a problem, when in fact, it's part of what protects the integrity of consensus. :We should be encouraging initiative, collaboration, and distributed leadership, not formalizing roles that consolidate influence. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:55, 15 August 2025 (UTC) ::I agree with the above summary and my concern is that there should be a leader. Not necessarily a bossy person to order others to do things but someone who is considered an authority in majority of cases. Having a good understanding of wiki is not required but good understanding of content is. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:10, 8 October 2025 (UTC) :In principle, there should not have to be some person who via sheer force of will keeps a project like this alive. In practice (and from my perspective), that has been needed here and to a lesser extent at en.wb and was filled by Pi zero for a few years (RIP). As to who that person would be now, I don't know if there is one. Over at en.wb, I see a couple of very active users regularly. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 21:39, 8 October 2025 (UTC) ::I noted it elsewhere that the role of a leader is to notice who is good at (editing, reviewing, writing, etc) and nominate them for permissions. And if there are such candidates off-wiki then potentially invite them here. There is no 'force' required for this for 'leadership' is. In an anarchy this is a bit less likely to happen, or may happen with a significant delay. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:44, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :If I had to choose, I still think Michael C. Wright is the most suitable. He demonstrated a remarkable ability to remain calm while seeking consensus and to firmly uphold his own position during the public consultation. I actively participated in that consultation, so I can attest to this firsthand. If one day WMF or the community were to establish a position like a “Global Wikinews Coordinator,” I would nominate him, even though we still have some differences in working methods. And of course you, Gryllida. But discussing this now isn’t particularly meaningful; I agree with what Justin said—this is based on past experience. Such a de facto leadership role isn’t formally defined or elected; it emerges through work. Still, being able to point this out demonstrates insight and courage. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 06:24, 9 October 2025 (UTC) : The issue at hand isn’t a lack of "leadership." What Wikinews needs is a renewed sense of shared purpose and guiding principles. : In the past, a group of editors operated with a common ethos: producing accurate, neutral, and well-crafted journalism. They valued nuance and depth over "churn-and-burn" publishing, and that collective standard helped ensure a level of quality. : Over time, that shared understanding has faded. The challenge for those active now is to rebuild it, to define what Wikinews means today and how we uphold its mission of publishing neutral, accurate reporting. : I have no interest in being, or in seeing anyone "elected" as, a leader. That concept runs counter to the spirit of a wiki. Authority here should come from collaboration, trust, and adherence to policy, not from title or expectation. Our focus should remain on collective effort and the integrity of the news we publish. : Consensus functions as a form of collective authority. It doesn’t reside in any individual or title, but in the community acting through reasoned agreement and transparent process, grounded in clearly defined and consistently applied policies and guidelines.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:27, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::I'd agree that Pi zero was a leader around here. I didn't like a lot of his choices and I found some of his conduct unhealthy, but there's no denying he did a ton of work and kept this place operating. One thing he might have been doing that we could use some of now? I think he was motivating the reviewers. Article review is our limiting reagent/bottleneck. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 18:11, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::I don't think "concensus", alone, will fullfill the roles I mentioned above. Sorry. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:48, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::I agree with @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] that what is needed is not leadership, but enough moving parts and working policies that it does not need a "leader". Getting there from where the site is now is what I'm having trouble seeing how to do. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:19, 9 October 2025 (UTC) :::However, I think the site has been in basically a state of emergency for a while and someone does need to do something quickly. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 18:09, 13 October 2025 (UTC) ::::Yes, it's something to think about, but it shouldn't be stressful, Nature.~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 23:21, 13 October 2025 (UTC) :::: What do you think should be done, and who should be responsible for it? It’s difficult for any individual to act outside of consensus without there being some pushback. :::: As one example of how even relatively small, semi-unilateral actions can have consequences: [[Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions/Asheiou]]. For all intents and purposes, that should have resulted in a new reviewer but didn't and the effect of the process has meant effectively the loss of a contributor ''and'' a potential reviewer. We are in the same place now as we were then.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 23:30, 13 October 2025 (UTC) :::::This site is on the verge of being closed down; it has something special to it. I don't think the system of requiring acting pre-approved reviewers is sustainable; I think the concept of either verification of content or requirements to be a reviewer need to be rethought entirely. Systems do also need to be created to make contributing easier, but it is very hard to get external people to help if they look in (as I have) and see a strong resistance to change and what looks like being ok with the site going away entirely rather than fixing it. I am not the only one who thinks this way, I'm just the only one bothering to say so. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:22, 14 October 2025 (UTC) ::::::As far as I know, from an outside observer's perspective, enwn is perhaps the only Wikinews that has established such strict rules and adheres to them consistently. This also puts it closest to being a reliable source, and in this sense, closest to being cited as a news source. This is not easy. It requires serious consideration. Each Wikinews language version has its own unique characteristics as a media outlet, and enwn has always been a benchmark. I agree that some rules may be overly strict and also unnecessarily ineffective in reflecting the nature of the source, and this is maybe debatable. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 22:53, 14 October 2025 (UTC) ::An interesting few thoughts by Sheminghui.WU. Zero snark here -- seriously: zero -- just a few thoughts. There are a few things that I think need to be remembered. I have been around here for about 15 years (if not longer). In my time, we've tried (quite hard) -- most of the time, to run this place like a credible news organization. But, never forget: There are NO PAYCHECKS HERE. Everyone here donates their time. That is how we work. In the US, there is an organization, '''The Poynter Institute''' -- that have written that, in terms of editorial oversight/rigor -- Wikinews has the ''deepest level of editorial credibility'' in terms of robust work. Never forget that. Leadership here is complicated at times. We need: Reporters, Reviewers and Administrators. There is (current discussion included) a tsunami of people willing to talk about '''maybe''' and '''wouldn't it be cool?''' and '''we oughtta do this and that''', but rarely many people doing ''the work''. Now: We also don't have the best system to reward people -- far from it! I understand that. But: We must never lose sight of what we are -- we get the news, we write the news, we publish the news. My professional work demands a lot from me. We just have to remember that people work HERE for free.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:58, 28 October 2025 (UTC) :::Keep in mind that the articles these portrayals are based on is a site that is basically copying information from other sites - is the argument here that the vetting of the sources it what makes en.wn a reliable source? Sorry, I'm not seeing what contribution the site is actually making even if people are saying things about the site. If en.wn somehow becomes an amazing source of credible info, what is it offering readers that the reputable news sites it is referencing also does not offer? That's a real question, not rhetorical. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 13:48, 29 October 2025 (UTC) ::::Yes, neutrality and fact-checking are indeed important strengths, features, and goals of an article. However, you are quite right; spinning areticle is indeed not very meaningful. At the moment, I think we should discuss this further and improve the situation while minimizing any changes to the nature of source (most people, including those citing it, don't scrutinize the minor details of a website's operation). ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 22:15, 29 October 2025 (UTC) ::::My understanding is this: Ideally, all news media, except Wikinews, would have biases and positions, while Wikinews would be neutral. Other media might use false information for profit, while we diligently verify it. Therefore, from a citation perspective, Wikinews is "most suitable for people 200 years from now." ::::As Wikinewsies, we should certainly uphold this ideal, but it's unrealistic; we need other working methods. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 22:19, 29 October 2025 (UTC) :::::You're describing sort of a {{w|snopes}} for news? That would be something. I actually am not sure the current verification goes far enough in that case, does it? or are you also saying that and I'm agreeing with you? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 02:47, 30 October 2025 (UTC) :::Thanks. Yes This is a volunteer project, so 1) the conflict of interest here is minimal! Much minimal compared to all traditional media! 2) the volunteers here don't need to put up with angers. I know it's no one's fault, but publishing is too difficult and slow, there are too many rules and deletes. Free source WikiNews must be free. I mean, This is a volunteer project! ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 23:32, 29 October 2025 (UTC) ::::Do we have concerns about stories that, when published, seem to be verifiable, but eventually are shown to be false? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 02:47, 30 October 2025 (UTC) ::::: No. We can always issue corrections or retractions. We have done this in the past when we've reported on what turned out to be a hoax.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:53, 9 November 2025 (UTC) ::::::Yes, this is a normal experience for the media. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 22:06, 9 November 2025 (UTC) == Source Helper as a Gadget == {{Archive top|The proposal to add add the '''SourceHelper''' script as a default gadget was successful. Documentation about the script is [[User:Asked42/SourceHelper|available here]]. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:10, 10 November 2025 (UTC)}} Proposal to add the '''SourceHelper''' script as a default gadget. Documentation about the script is [[User:Asked42/SourceHelper|available here]]. This will make adding sources more convenient and quicker, assisting users in many cases, saving them time, and providing an easy to navigate/use interface. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 16:54, 28 September 2025 (UTC) :* {{s}} - as proposer. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 16:55, 28 September 2025 (UTC) :Support [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:04, 8 October 2025 (UTC) : {{Support}}[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:11, 13 October 2025 (UTC) :{{Support}} What a great tool. All Wikinews should have this tool so that the code requirement does not exist, similar to Wikipedia's "visual editing". ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:14, 16 October 2025 (UTC) :It's been a month, and there have been no objections, so I think we can move forward!!? -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:22, 4 November 2025 (UTC) :{{Comment}} I think WP has a little gadget like this -- is it called "Cite It" -- or something similar?? A little pop up table that you just fill in the blanks with applicable stuff. I like the one over there. And: let's wait just a hair longer. I'd like to see a bit more consensus, but I think it's a cool suggestion for us.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:52, 4 November 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]: Sure. But the gadget on wikipedia is for inline citations, which are not used here, and it also includes many other features specific to wikipedia. SourceHelper is adapted for Wikinews-style sourcing. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:57, 4 November 2025 (UTC) :{{Support}}Cool! I like it. How about we give this another 24 hours, then ''make it rain!''--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:00, 4 November 2025 (UTC) ::Sure thing! -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:11, 4 November 2025 (UTC) :I have [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%25253AGadgets-definition&diff=4925214&oldid=4883429 installed] the SourceHelper script as a gadget. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:35, 10 November 2025 (UTC) : Awesome! Thank you. I'm sure it will be helpful![[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:01, 10 November 2025 (UTC) {{Archive bottom}} == New versions of Develop and Review template == Proposal to update {{tl|Develop}} with {{tl|Develop/sandbox}} and {{tl|Review}} with {{tl|Review/sandbox}}. Also, to update {{tl|Tasks}} with {{tl|Tasks/sandbox}}. These two are among the most important templates for new editors. The updates make them more user friendly by listing key guidelines and tools that can assist in developing articles. A new "Submit for review" action button has also been added to the Develop template, a more modern approach (similar to what is used on English Wikipedia). It performs basic security and validation checks before submitting an article for review (like checking if the article has at least two sources and so). I believe these changes will enhance the article development lifecycle on wikinews. If any sentence adjustments are needed, feel free to suggest or make them directly. Suggestions for additional features are also welcome. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:08, 19 October 2025 (UTC) : Love the idea and execution. I started to (boldly) immediately implement it but ran into something unexpected. I applied {{tl|Develop/sandbox}} to [[Syrian leader Ahmed al-Sharaa meets Russian president Vladimir Putin]] and the following text appeared (and was hyperlinked) before the 'submit' button at the bottom of the xambox. I suspect it should be all part of the submit action and not rendered as linked text? : <code>leader Ahmed al-Sharaa meets Russian president Vladimir Putin?withJS=MediaWiki:SubmitWizard_(proposal).js&page=Syrian leader Ahmed al-Sharaa meets Russian president Vladimir Putin</code>[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:41, 19 October 2025 (UTC) : I tested {{tl|Review/sandbox}} with EasyPeeRreview (EPR) and I didn't see any issues other than the gadget didn't remove the review template from the article on a 'not ready' outcome, but probably due to the fact it's the sandboxed version of the template and EPR looks for and removes {{tl|Review}}. Therefore, I would call that expected behavior. : Considering there are so few people active here and we need to get forward momentum going on improving things around here, I have no qualms about implementing these changes once you work through the [[#c-Michael.C.Wright-20251019154100-Asked42-20251019150800|issue identified]] with {{tl|Develop/sandbox}}. Unless of course someone objects before I do so. ツ[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:55, 19 October 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]: I have resolved the issue on {{tl|Develop/sandbox}}. It was a very small and silly mistake on my part. I tested it on [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Allahabad_High_Court_grants_bail_to_accused_linked_to_Umesh_Pal_murder_case&oldid=4889608 this revision], and it successfully submitted the article for review. Thank you for pointing out the mistake. And yes, you are correct about EPR not removing {{tl|Review/sandbox}}, as it specifically looks for the {{tl|Review}} template. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 06:08, 20 October 2025 (UTC) ::: Changes implemented. Thanks![[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:16, 21 October 2025 (UTC) :I have added new actions to {{tl|Review/sandbox}}. One is "Help an Abandoned Article", which suggests an abandoned article from the review category. If no abandoned article is available, it will suggest any article currently waiting for review. :The next action is "Mark as Under Review", which is intended for reviewers only, other users cannot perform this action. When clicked, it adds the {{tl|Under review}} template to the article. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:22, 20 October 2025 (UTC) :: Changes implemented. Thanks again![[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:20, 21 October 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]: Happy to contribute! If there are any features that can improve editors' experience with article creation and the overall article development lifecycle, I'd be happy to assist with that as well. Thank you too. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 19:24, 21 October 2025 (UTC) :::: If you have time, maybe optimizing or even organizing the process of writing OR notes. Maybe if we had a javascript front end, that had fields for optional types of notes such as interview transcripts, radio buttons to select interview type (in person, email, social media, all of the above, etc). A radio button to declare if info was sent to Scoop, another to declare that the interviewee's responses have been verified, etc. :::: We currently leverage this preload; [[Template:Develop/Original reporting]]. But I rarely see it used effectively so maybe it's not useable enough, not intuitive, or some combination of both. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] and [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] have both done a bit of OR recently and could possibly provide feedback on what they'd find useful. :::: It would be great if an article's talk page detected {{tl|Original reporting}} in the parent page and rendered an xambox in the talk page suggesting the java script tool to produce the notes. But that would be icing on the cake... :::: I know that's a lot. But you did ask. ツ[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 20:40, 21 October 2025 (UTC) :::::That would be great and useful. Pinging @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] and @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] to see what they find useful while providing OR notes, and to share any other feedback before we proceed with creating the tool. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 13:31, 22 October 2025 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]: I have created an initial version of a form-based interface for adding OR notes. If you are interested, you can try it out and provide feedback on what should be changed, added, or removed. :::::To test it: first install the script. Then, on your [[Special:MyPage/sandbox|user sandbox]], add the template {{tl|Original reporting}} or {{tl|Interview}}. After that, visit the sandbox's talk page and you will see a button called "Provide OR Notes Using Wizard." Clicking it will open a form. :::::More related fields will appear based on the reporting type you select. The data will be added using {{tl|ORNotes}}. Thank you! :::::<pre>mw.loader.load('//en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Asked42/ORNotesWizard.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');</pre> :::::-- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 13:23, 27 October 2025 (UTC) ::::::You can also [[Template talk:ORNotes|see this example]] to preview how the {{tl|ORNotes}} template will appear. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 13:28, 27 October 2025 (UTC) ::::::: This example looks professional and well-organized. It effectively differentiates the notes from general conversation in the talk page and it just looks clean and well-done. Thank you! I personally think it would be very helpful when reviewing OR to have the notes presented cleanly and in a standardized manner such as this. ::::::: Now that my my wikibreak is over, I am getting caught up on conversations around here and will prioritize installing and testing this script shortly, possibly tomorrow morning, PST timezone.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 20:12, 9 November 2025 (UTC) ::::::: I installed it and took a look at the interface. Well done! How confident are you to start recommending it to the next OR submission we see pop up in Development?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:06, 10 November 2025 (UTC) ::::::::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]: It is almost ready to be used. For usage, I can add a button on the {{tl|develop}} template; when a user clicks it, they will be redirected to the talk page and the form will open. This way, they don’t need to install the script, and it will only be loaded for them when the button is clicked. ::::::::Let me know whether this would be the preferred approach, or if you would rather keep it as it currently is, where users need to install the script manually. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:49, 11 November 2025 (UTC) ::::::::: I like the idea of least resistance, personally. ::::::::: I wonder if we could also set up a notice or alert associated with the <nowiki>{{Original}} and {{interview}}</nowiki> templates. I could easily set both up to display a message on the article main page while in draft, reminding contributors to add their notes. Do you think that's too much?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:09, 11 November 2025 (UTC) ::::::::::I think that would be really helpful for the authors as well. For the notice, were you thinking of using {{tl|xambox}} or something else? -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 17:25, 11 November 2025 (UTC) ::::::::::: Yeah, that or a statement within the <nowiki>{{original reporting}} and {{interview}}</nowiki> templates themselves.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:44, 12 November 2025 (UTC) ::::::::::::Great! ::::::::::::The script for adding the OR notes is also ready to be used. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:23, 12 November 2025 (UTC) :: I was able to do a full run or real-life use of the "Mark as under review" action button of the review template. It places <nowiki>{{Under_review}}</nowiki> with the underscore and EZPR left it behind after I completed the review, presumably due to the presence of the underscore. Otherwise I think everything else worked great. :: I tested it on "[[JPL Slashes 550 Jobs in Fourth Round of NASA Layoffs as Budget Woes Mount]]" if you need to see the edit history.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:57, 22 October 2025 (UTC) :::I have removed the underscore from the Under Review template. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:14, 22 October 2025 (UTC) :On {{tl|Tasks/sandbox}}, I have added two actions: one is "Submit for Review" and the other is "Request Assistance", which adds the {{tl|helpneeded}} template to the article. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:40, 21 October 2025 (UTC) :: And implemented... 👍[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:28, 21 October 2025 (UTC) ::Suggest replacing "help abandoned article" with something sounding more newsy. Like "help dig out the hell from the web for a report that was started a second ago" as this is dire needed? More concisely perhaps "'''Copyedit a news report from our Newsroom now!'''" [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:15, 21 November 2025 (UTC) == Just wishing and hoping == I've been thinking about this for a bit now. I wish (maybe around Christmas or just after) -- we could do a combined 'Greatest Hits' of English WN (here or at WMF's site? -- would that be possible?) and an "In Memoriam" thing about noted contributors who've passed on. Something like "Top 100 articles" wrapping around to a micro memorial bit. I wouldn't want the process to bog down in chatter (a thing we're great at) -- maybe a committee? Just pondering -- thoughts?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:05, 3 November 2025 (UTC) :{{Support}} Memorial article is wonderful. It will help strengthen community cohesion, culture, and sustainability, and it honors our predecessors. Great! -- [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 01:10, 4 November 2025 (UTC) : {{support}} We ''could'' use the [[Wikinews:2025 Boost publication rate/Monthly top article/Updates|top articles of each month]], as sort of a 'Readers' choice' run-down. If we do it by mid-to-late December, we'll have the top eleven articles of the year based on page-views. Or we could vote for our top articles. Just spitballing ideas.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:12, 10 November 2025 (UTC) ::If it works, I fully support it. We need more interaction with readers, not just reporters; it's worth a try. [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:05, 22 November 2025 (UTC) == Thinking - asking - wondering == Maybe this exists here (and I've missed it) -- ''and'' people can get sensitive about AI stuff. But: I wonder if we should make a banner (for certain) articles that notes "AI Assisted Content" or something like that? Just a general thought -- no big deal.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:31, 4 November 2025 (UTC) :I personally don't really think so. Is this works somewhat like a disclaimer? But our community, especially the reviewers, should ensure the grammatical accuracy of the article and, especially, the accuracy of the facts. If there are no problems, whether or not some/most of the AI ​​tools were used is not a big deal, right? ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 22:13, 4 November 2025 (UTC) : It might help with transparency. We should be noting use in the talk page as a minimum, as recommended by [[WN:AI]]. <br>I also agree with [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], that at the end of the day, with a ''proper and full'' peer-review it shouldn't matter, as the content should have been verified by an independent reviewer if it's published. <br>"[[Environmental protest in Indonesia denounces Australia's plastic waste exports]]" is an example of an article we've retracted, which contained a significant amount of AI/LLM misuse (based on our proposed [[WN:AI|AI guideline]]). Based on that experience, I'd lean towards supporting the new template on published articles for transparency.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:24, 10 November 2025 (UTC) ::I have no objection. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 22:36, 10 November 2025 (UTC) ::However, I have a real concern: readers won't like articles labeled with AI, even if the article itself is fine. Whether an article using a small amount of AI tools should be labeled as having AI use is something I think needs to be discussed. One of the appealing aspects of Wikinews is its verifiability and citizen-written content, but seeing an AI label can negatively impact even a reputable brand like Wikimedia. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 22:39, 10 November 2025 (UTC) :::This also seems to have a negative impact on our goal of becoming a source of citations.(which enwn has been working for a long time) As technology becomes more widespread and irresistible, things may change, but it is reasonable to have such concerns now. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 22:41, 10 November 2025 (UTC) ::::Perhaps if the goal is to become a source for citations, it would make sense to clearly mark the articles for which it will be true - and have some pieces more "editorial" in nature. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 19:01, 16 November 2025 (UTC) :::::This is an interesting idea. In fact, Russian and Chinese Wikinews have conducted similar experiments, but our(their) contributor community is still too small. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:03, 22 November 2025 (UTC) == New committee proposed == {{Archive top|The proposal was not accepted by the community. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:17, 21 November 2025 (UTC)}} '''Proposal: Establish a temporary, Policy Committee (POLCOM)''' I propose the community establish a temporary committee charged with revising our core policies and guidelines to improve our publication rate and contributor engagement across all roles (contributors, reviewers, administrators, and bureaucrats). The committee would consist of 3–5 members elected by the community and would operate for a limited trial period (for example, three months). During that time, it would focus on identifying, drafting, and implementing changes aimed at making Wikinews more active, accessible, and productive. At the end of its term, the committee would report its outcomes, and the community can decide whether to renew, revise, or retire it. To keep initial debate minimal, I propose we use a straw poll to determine if such a committee should be established. '''Votes''' Please vote using * {{support}} {{tl|support}} * {{oppose}} {{tl|oppose}} * {{unsupport}} {{tl|unsupport}} * {{weak support}} {{tl|weak support}} * {{weak oppose}} {{tl|weak oppose}} * {{neutral}} {{tl|neutral}} * {{comment}} {{tl|comment}} Include a brief statement and your signature. Voting will close November 20. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:45, 13 November 2025 (UTC) :{{neutral}} There are less than 10 active users as far as I can see so it's not clear what this will do differently from how things are already supposed to be. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 19:28, 13 November 2025 (UTC) :: Assume the following for argument's sake: :: ::* The committee is formed of three people ::* You campaign for committee membership on the idea of eliminating the review process ::* You secure enough votes and have become a committee member :: :: You convince the other two committee members of the efficacy of the change and together the three of you change the policies and guidelines and observe what happens. If the results are good, the change remains. If the results are bad, the changes are reconsidered (maybe tweaked, maybe reverted). :: In this way, we as a community say that we trust the committee to make even radical changes on our behalf, with the goal of improving conditions around here. :: I think we face closure by December. I fear it may be too late for such a change to make a difference in time. But I am willing to take a big risk (throw a hail Mary) to try.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:53, 13 November 2025 (UTC) :::{{unsupport}} then. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:02, 13 November 2025 (UTC) :{{weak oppose}} I support democratic centralism, but I really don't understand the point of democratic centralism between seven people and three people. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 22:09, 13 November 2025 (UTC) ::I support this attempt and "throw a hail Mary" approach. However, we have only about eight active users, which could all participate. I don't know how representativeness can be achieved on this committee, and in fact, it will only involve everyone indirectly; we will certainly express our own opinions. I understand we are pressed for time and need to reach a consensus. If we believe that surviving in December, or rather, to survive, requires substantial policy reforms, we can achieve this through a hasty vote (although without sufficient discussion, because this is a critical period), such as a vote on whether a certain policy should be reformed, rather than a three-person committee. Of course, if major changes are needed, the main drafting of the policy text will still be done by a few users. However, this shouldn't be the case for other matters, nor is it necessary to have such a committee. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 22:16, 13 November 2025 (UTC) :::(Furthermore, I don't really have a significant expectation of the impact of enwn's internal policy reforms on the foundation's decision-making.) ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 22:19, 13 November 2025 (UTC) :: We are unable to agree on much of anything as our community is currently composed. This proposal would allow us to designate 3-5 ''change-makers'' empowered and entrusted to make decisions with a lower barrier to action.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:43, 13 November 2025 (UTC) :::If we confirm this, then we can organize a nationwide vote on policy reform, with a short timeframe, where those who don't vote abstain, and the majority vote is simply for "yes" over "no." Maybe we can try something like that first. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 23:00, 13 November 2025 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] @[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] and I seemed to agree about this. I don't think we've actually determined if we agree on anything, or if there's a majority consensus, on anything. These discussions have been too unfocused; I think people are also hesitant to disagree with some admins or perceive that they have more influence on policy, which I believe is incorrect. Maybe we can have some lightning straw polls on the same policy changes this "committee" would potentially be making. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 13:28, 14 November 2025 (UTC) ::::: Interestingly, I thought ''this'' straw poll was going to be a quick and simple poll (with a deadline), akin to what I assume you mean by a "lightning" straw poll. I thought it was focused; ''should we form a committee or not''. The committee isn't intended to analyze, debate, and report, but "charged with ''revising'' our core policies and guidelines [emphasis added]." ::::: This is about as close to radical action as one could get without boldly and unilaterally making the changes alone or with a 'rogue' faction. ::::: What is unfocused and what is not "lightning" about it?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:54, 14 November 2025 (UTC) ::::: > ''Maybe we can have some lightning straw polls on the same policy changes this "committee" would potentially be making.'' ::::: I'd say let it rip. If that gets some action moving, great. If we don't need the committee because we're effecting change, great.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 23:40, 14 November 2025 (UTC) ::::::I agree. That's not really my place to do; others, in theory, will have a better idea of what problems exist and what can be fixed. For instance, many of us supported your change to reviewing which allowed to post-review grammar fixes. Why wasn't that enacted? Shouldn't you have gone ahead with that? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 23:54, 14 November 2025 (UTC) ::::::: Have you followed the conversation recently? [[#Reforming review process]][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 00:04, 15 November 2025 (UTC) ::::::::I had not seen it, and it seems clear from what @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] that there is no place considered adequate to seek for policy changes on this site. You had told me that _that_ was the place for it, but apparently not. You proposed it a month ago, got as far as I can see only support and no objections, yet nothing happened until I asked what was happening two weeks later - but not even then, and all that is happening is that further consensus is being sought. Did I miss something? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 03:48, 15 November 2025 (UTC) :Why does this have to be a "committee"? [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 06:39, 14 November 2025 (UTC) :: I can't think of another way to empower someone to make even radical changes without empowering a single person. With a committee, the hope is there will be at least some resistance to lust for power and authority. We also will get a bit of diversity in views about how to approach things. :: Why are you hesitant about it being a committee?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:21, 14 November 2025 (UTC) :::Can the "committee" actually make those changes if the rest of the community is nonchalant? Sounds like it could risk animosity if the committee thinks differently from others. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 15:04, 14 November 2025 (UTC) :::: I would answer "yes" to both statements; the committee can make the changes for a nonchalant community (that's actually the goal) and it is a risk they will go a direction many of us don't want, i.e., too deep into the wiki model and too far away from a journalistic model. :::: 1. If the committee members are elected, I would assume the community supports their decisions and actions as a representative of the community. :::: 2. I see the risk/benefit ratio like this: :::::a. our current publishing system is dysfunctional and discouraging and the result is the SPTF recommendation to close WN. The status quo very likely means closure—possibly as early as next month. :::::b.We saw increases in readership and writer-ship both when [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] published nearly anything with a verb in it in [[Wikinews:2025_Boost_publication_rate/Monthly_top_article/Updates#June_2025|April and May]]. However strongly I personally disagree with that method (and I ''strongly'' disagree with it), I can't deny the results, which included a high rate of corrections and retractions for the same period. If we can find a way to publish at the rate we did in those months, while also avoiding high rates of corrections and retractions, I think we could improve our standing to 'outsiders' who don't fully grok our methods and mission. :::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:20, 14 November 2025 (UTC) :::::Can you clarify "published nearly anything with a verb in it"; is the implication that articles without verbs exist? and can you explain why whatever you're talking about increased readership? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 22:09, 14 November 2025 (UTC) :::::: Without readership, all we do is for naught.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:53, 14 November 2025 (UTC) :::::::I don't understand. I agree we want readers. I was asking you to explain how articles with verbs increased that, and to clarify what that means. Thanks. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 23:52, 14 November 2025 (UTC) :::::::: I was using “articles with a verb in them” figuratively to describe the period when a modified review approach was used that emphasized publishing more quickly and frequently. During that time, we saw a marked increase in both readership and contributor activity. My point wasn’t that the content itself caused the rise, but that a higher publication rate appeared to correlate with greater engagement overall.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 00:10, 15 November 2025 (UTC) :::::::::That's an interesting phrasing choice on a site that is supposed to value clarify in content, isn't it? I feel like its tone is almost inappropriate now that I understand what you mean, and have trouble engaging further. Thank you for explaining what you meant. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 01:08, 15 November 2025 (UTC) * {{weak support}} Largely speaking, I have very few problems with the idea. And: let's not play coy here -- I have nearly ZERO problems with anyone disagreeing with me, as long as our actions are focused on maintaining journalistic integrity. Freshness, solid sourcing, terse style, solid interviews etc. = good journalism. Yes: credentialled individuals here have earned their stripes, YET I am ''thrilled'' to see anyone come here, learn, do the work and go as "high" as they can go here (I put quotes because I hope we can maintain an egalatarian dynamic here). The old grognards (may they rest in peace) namely, Brian McNeil and Pi Zero refused to lower standards. If we come up with TOOLS to make things flow faster/better/easier, you'll hear minimal disagreement from me -- I promise (and I've seen some good signs of that in recent days). I figured out SUPER FAST in my early days here: I need to earn my place around this project, so I will do small edits/tasks as I catch the vibe of what is transpiring here. In very recent days, I've seen work that involved 400 words (that could've been 160 words), the article fails and then I read 3,000 words about how much WN sucks and how it is a dying project and that reviewers need to review more. I am exhausted by that adolescent nonsense. When I talk about "humility" and "ego" here, what I am trying to convey (maybe clumsily) is that we are engaged in a righteous endeavor at this place: Citizen journalism. I am (mostly) cool with this or any other committee we might form, but we '''must''' maintain our focus on the news. While a long way from perfect, some incredible things have happened here. Sadly, many of the WMF people appear to be unable to understand or appreciate much of that. We'll just have to see where all of that goes.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:55, 14 November 2025 (UTC) *'''Comment'''. If the committee is going to be empowered to change policies ''without'' a vote to approve them by the community, then I would oppose it. That's not stated in the proposal but it is suggested in Michael.C.Wright's comments below. However, if the committee were empowered to announce proposals which would be subject to a yes-or-no vote by the community and only take effect if approved, then I would be fine with that. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 17:42, 14 November 2025 (UTC) *: I do indeed intend for the committee to act without direct community vote on every action. The committee could choose to propose changes for community vote, but I think that's no different from what is currently happening and is not what I envision. :: The intent is to reduce the barrier to action by enabling a smaller group of people, who the community votes on to ''represent'' them in making big, sweeping, even radical changes to our entire system. :: We've been [[User talk:Jimbo Wales#Seeking areas of near universal agreement|talking about the same problems for over twelve years]] but we essentially have the same system that has produced the same results (some of which I find valuable, others not so much). :: If we want different results we must do something different.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:30, 14 November 2025 (UTC) :I support this, but with a few considerations: :# The committee should have a clear objective and scope. :# There should be some limitations or boundaries within which the committee must operate (for example, focusing on improving the current article publication process). :# The committee should first submit its report after the defined duration, and then begin implementing policy changes in a gradual, sequential manner. This way, if anything becomes too controversial, other editions can step in. :But yes, I think if we can pull this off successfully, it will be a net positive for the project. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 22:11, 14 November 2025 (UTC) ::I do think we need to be bold to some extent. We are becoming too conservative to implement anything new or make any changes. ''If we aren't bold now, I am afraid we might not get another chance later.'' ::But it's also true that being emotional and bold is not enough, we also have to maintain credibility and responsibility. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 22:19, 14 November 2025 (UTC) ::: I didn't want to bog down the discussion with too many details, as that tends to stray off scope or result in long posts like this one. However, one of the ideas I had was that the first charter for the committee can't be changed by the committee and it includes an auto-termination of the committee after three months without community support to keep it. But the charter would give the committee carte blanche to do what they deemed necessary, up to and including getting rid of the review process altogether, as has been floated by others before. I don't necessarily agree with it, but the data doesn't lie. What we're doing now hasn't worked for us for over a decade. <br>Since the goal is to reduce barriers to action, the proposal is not to first report, and ask to act. It is to act and then report. I see no reason to have the committee if it first deliberates, then comes to the community for more deliberation. We can already do that without the committee (and have been for years). <br>I understand if this part of the proposal turns people off. I know it's risky and a bit radical. But so is a wiki with a peer review, gate-keeping system. And looking back at past discussions, we have been chewing at this for ''years''. The same problems were discussed with Jimbo in 2013 and a lot of the same justifications for the status quo are being rehashed. We have not progressed since then.<br>The graph below hasn’t been updated this year, but it remains illustrative. It’s hard to argue the current system is effective or that slow and incremental changes have reversed the decline. The surge in publication during April and May of this year showed real progress within a month and it was one of the longest periods I know of in which the standard review system was not adhered to and we just happed to be collecting data. If we can match that pace while keeping corrections and retractions low, I believe we’ll have a strong case to present to the SPTF for keeping en.WN open. As it stands, publication in October is likely below 2024 levels, as it was in [[Wikinews:2025 Boost publication rate/September pub-rate report|September]]. ::: ::: [[File:2024-en-wn-historical-trend-pages-edited.png|frame|center|alt=The number of pages edited (excluding redirects and non content pages) by Users (excluding Anonymous, group bot, and name bot) on English Wikinews in 2024.|The number of pages edited (excluding redirects and non content pages) by Users (excluding Anonymous, group bot, and name bot) on English Wikinews.]] ::: ::: As it stands, I believe we are proving the SPTF report correct; we can not effectively evolve and can't let go of a failed model.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 23:27, 14 November 2025 (UTC) ::::But I still have to point out that enwn is only one language edition of Wikinews. Of course, the other Wikinews editions are very quiet nowadays, but we can see that enwn still receives effective, non-advertising submissions every day — the only problem is that their quality varies greatly and they are difficult to get reviewed. In my experience, publishing an article on enwn can indeed drive one mad; if that frustration could be reduced, enwn would clearly be able to produce a great deal of content. In summary, reform would be useful — but not in order to become a revisionist, merely to reform. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 03:04, 15 November 2025 (UTC) :::::Since @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] thinks so too, then let's hurry up. Could we create some kind of pure-voting interface, with a two-day voting period? First, we reach consensus on whether a certain policy — or several policies — should be reformed, and then let the draft committee draft the new policy text afterwards. [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 03:08, 15 November 2025 (UTC) ::::::Maybe the drafters could list the main points of the reform line by line, and then hold another one-day vote on them. In this way, the reform could be completed within just a few days. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 03:11, 15 November 2025 (UTC) ::::I understand what you are trying to convey, and I share a similar frustration. ::::I suggested submitting the report first and then implementing the changes for a few reasons: ::::# After a major policy change is implemented, the community still needs to be notified in order for the policy to actually be applied; otherwise, it will remain only documented and not widely followed. ::::# Suppose the committee acts first and submits its report after three months. If editors later discover a radical change, they may still oppose it; and if there is strong objection at that point would the change be reverted? ::::This is why submitting the report first gives the community an early understanding of what is being proposed. In my view, that is a much safer and more transparent approach. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:45, 15 November 2025 (UTC) *{{comment}}The funny thing is: about 9 things are being said here, and I hardly disagree with any of those things! I am very happy to say: We do journalism here. That is what we do. Having 700 people here per week or 7 people here per week is of little concern to me, whatever the WMF decides for our fate. I do care about readership and I do support the Be Bold! paradigm. But I don't support bad writing/bad publication. I never will -- ''ever''. One focus (which I am toying with) is to build "boxes" within which new reporters can write/contribute. So, you came here and presume you're Mickey Spillane -- well, you aren't. Sorry. But: we'll help you get there! (And "boxes" was just a quick word I came up with, so don't flame me!) Little articles, build up your skills and the scope of your abilities and very soon: BOOM! You're rocking around this place! That is my larger hope. Maybe a committee is an OK idea. I stand by my weak support vote.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:54, 21 November 2025 (UTC) *{{oppose}} I am opposing because this proposal would allow the committee to impose its policy changes without a community vote to approve them, and I don't think that's appropriate. Yes, we need some kind of change, but not where three people are empowered to make the changes without community approval. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:55, 15 November 2025 (UTC) *:I agree. I suggest anyone who wants to make any changes that this committee would be making instead simply put them forth for the community to approve or deny. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 23:12, 15 November 2025 (UTC) *::{{oppose}}I also opposed this. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:19, 21 November 2025 (UTC) {{Archive bottom}} == Source Helper == {{Archive top|The proposal to add add the '''SourceHelper''' script as a default gadget was successful. Documentation about the script is [[User:Asked42/SourceHelper|available here]]. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:05, 22 November 2025 (UTC)}} There is a user script, [[User:Asked42/SourceHelper|sourceHelper]], which can make adding sources to articles quicker and more convenient. If anyone is interested, they can try it out. Documentation is [[User:Asked42/SourceHelper|available here]]. The user only needs to enter the URL of the source and in an ideal case it will extract all the parameters for that source automatically and add it to the appropriate section of the page, arranged by date. This is something like the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Introduction_to_referencing_with_VisualEditor/2 auto citation generation] on Wikipedia or like the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ProveIt ProveIt gadget]. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:55, 7 September 2025 (UTC) : Thanks for this. I personally think given the feedback from the Task Force, that we should seriously consider using inline citations to make verification easier/faster. Maybe I'll formally propose that and see what the community thinks. We need to do ''something'' to get some publishing momentum going again.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:18, 16 September 2025 (UTC) ::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]: That could be a proposal to consider. Just to clarify, the script is not for inline citations; it will add the source using {{tl|source}} template in the sources section. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 17:36, 16 September 2025 (UTC) ::: Yeah, I got that. It does seem handy and our sources section does trip up some people. I'll start recommending it when I see that the sources section isn't completed properly. 👍[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:08, 16 September 2025 (UTC) ::: I added a sentence to suggest it when someone uses a "Write an article" button, i.e., anything that pre-loads [[Template:New page]]. That might help.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 20:28, 18 September 2025 (UTC) ::::I hope that will be helpful. Instead of directly specifying the script name to use, maybe we could create a dedicated page (like Wikinews:Article assistance tools) where we list different tools that users can use to assist with article creation. Then, we can mention that page's name in the preload template. I think this would be more helpful. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 21:30, 18 September 2025 (UTC) ::::: I think this could be very helpful. Is this something you would like to put together? I can, but we're low on active reviewers and admins, so my time has become more limited with trying to keep the lights on. ::::: Even if it gets approved as a default gadget, it might help to have a central location documenting various tools.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:39, 30 September 2025 (UTC) ::::::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]: Yes, I do think it would be greatly beneficial to create a central documentation page for all useful scripts and tools. Could it be something like [[en:w:Wikipedia:User scripts/List]], or should we make it a more specific documentation page? [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:37, 8 October 2025 (UTC) ::::::: It might be beneficial to eventually do both, but starting with a broad list of tools available. An all-inclusive list could also help us identify areas of strength and weakness as far as what tools are currently available. This may also help us to not re-invent the wheel as we work to improve our processes. ::::::: Ideally, each tool should have dedicated documentation on its purpose and use. Contributors could use that documentation to make an informed decision as to which tools best-fit their workflow and goals.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:36, 9 October 2025 (UTC) ::::::::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]: I have started the page [[Wikinews:Gadgets and Tools]]. This page will list all the gadgets and useful scripts. We can create separate subpages for those scripts or gadgets that don't already have proper documentation. [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 17:26, 10 October 2025 (UTC) ::I dont like inline citations as they seldom are the real source of info. Like abc.net.au is a source that says that a politician said that there will be elections next week. No need to shove abc into reader face, best to note the politicians name. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:07, 8 October 2025 (UTC) :::Japanese Wikinews uses in-text footnotes, for example:[[:w:n:ja:自公連立政権解消 企業団体献金問題で隔たり]]. It's indeed a rather different attempt. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:17, 16 October 2025 (UTC) ::::''I don’t know whether Mr. Michael C. Wright’s ideas are related to the difficulties we encountered during [[Wikinews interviews Australian Fusion Party President Drew Wolfendale|the FUSION interview]], but that actually has no necessary connection with whether or not there are citations in the article. '' ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:20, 16 October 2025 (UTC) ::::: I just saw this mention and was on a Wikibreak for a while. Sorry for the delayed response. To explain my thoughts behind using in-line citations here: I believe inline citations would strengthen Wikinews articles for the same reasons they are often used in research papers: they allow readers and reviewers to verify each statement’s origin, evaluate the credibility of sources, and trace the factual basis of the reporting. ::::: They also will likely reduce reviewer workload by clearly indicating which parts of the article are supported by cited material. This is why I developed and recommend {{tl|Verify}}, which is essentially a temporary, in-line citation. ::::: Finally, they promote good journalistic practice by reminding contributors that every factual statement must be verifiable and supported by a reliable source, reinforcing Wikinews’ core commitment to accuracy and transparency.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:24, 10 November 2025 (UTC) {{Archive bottom}} == OR Wizard == There is a new tool available that is created to provide Original Reporting Notes through a form based interface ([https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#c-Michael.C.Wright-20251021204000-Asked42-20251021192400 idea proposed by] @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]). It takes inputs and adds the OR notes using the {{tl|ORNotes}} template on the article's talk page. If anyone is interested, you can try out the tool by clicking the button below. You will be redirected to the sandbox talk page, and a form will open. Please suggest any improvements or modifications if you are interested, and let us know whether we should consider using it for OR notes. {{Clickable button|Main Page|Test OR Wizard}} (Update (22-11-2025): This button will not work.) -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:18, 13 November 2025 (UTC) :Looks good, more efficient than Scoop. I'll try it next time I have an Original Report (maybe in a few days)! ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 22:21, 13 November 2025 (UTC) :: Just to clarify, any sensitive or non-public information should be submitted through Scoop, not the OR Wizard. The OR Wizard posts its content publicly on the talk page. :: @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], perhaps we should add that note directly in the tool.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:51, 13 November 2025 (UTC) :::Okay, that's what we should do. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 00:56, 14 November 2025 (UTC) :::Yes, the OR Wizard only adds a note on the talk page such as "Private notes have been sent to Scoop or emailed to a reviewer" for private submissions. I will add this clarification on the form itself. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:19, 14 November 2025 (UTC) :::Can someone explain [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mamdani_wins_New_York_City_mayoral_election&diff=prev&oldid=4920518] this comment which appears to be saying not to use scoop? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 19:04, 16 November 2025 (UTC) :'''{{color|red|Update}}:''' I think I am managing too many scripts at this point, so I need to prioritize the more important ones. Currently, this one does not seem to be widely needed or in high demand. Therefore I am dropping this idea for now. If you try this in the future, it may or '''may not work'''. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:17, 22 November 2025 (UTC) == Newsletter proposal == Hello, someone familiar with API, suggest to write * [[Wikinews:Newsletter/1]] Could we please effort to complete the page if it is considered a acceptable idea. Could it be possible to ask other wikis to write same newsletters, also, maybe one could link to others for other languages or compile one in English which summarizes for all wikis. cc @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] for statistics for this one and not sure who can reach to other wikis. Many thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 03:13, 23 November 2025 (UTC) :As for similar newsletters, [[:w:en:WP:SIGNPOST]], [[:d:Wikidata:Status updates]], and there's also [[:f:]]'s newsletter, posted at (e.g.) [[:f:Wikifunctions:Project_chat#Wikifunctions_&_Abstract_Wikipedia_Newsletter_#225_is_out:_First_round_of_voting_for_naming_the_wiki_for_abstract_content_closed;_Calling_for_Wiktionary_functions;_Embedded_Wikifunctions_on_Bengali_Wikipedia_and_seven_more_Wiktionaries]]. Plus, there are updates at [[:outreach:]] like [[:outreach:GLAM/Newsletter]] and various ones at [[:m:Category:Newsletters]]. I recall similar ones on some editions of Wiktionary (fr.wikt?). There are other general news pages on en.wv, en.wikt, and incubator, but they are published irregularly. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:28, 23 November 2025 (UTC) ::Cool! Could they be consolidated from various language editions to a "Wikinews report", "Wiktionary report", etc at Meta, where users can follow them. One per project or one per language, not sure what is better. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:45, 23 November 2025 (UTC) :To be clear, you'd like me to help update this for publication by December&nbsp;15? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:29, 23 November 2025 (UTC) ::Yes please update it if you can [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:44, 23 November 2025 (UTC) : {{support}} if this can be done by a non-flagged (non-reviewer, non-admin) contributor. We already have many required tasks not being performed by reviewers and admin such as reviews, archival, edit requests, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:45, 23 November 2025 (UTC) ::I think admins or reviewers can work on this in background to other tasks... [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:46, 23 November 2025 (UTC) ::: If an admin or reviewer is required to complete a newsletter, I do not support it. It is a new task being added to two roles that are already not being fully satisfied. We have three months' worth of articles that need to be archived. We have 229 pending changes that need sighted. We have 12 pages marked for speedy deletion. We have 10 open edit requests. We have 2 articles pending review. We have multiple delete and undelete requests open. If those tasks aren't already being done "in background" I don't see how adding an additional task helps.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:22, 23 November 2025 (UTC) ::::Heh.. I am not doing any of those in background, too bored. Only working on 'new' pieces. Maybe on Christmas [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 08:18, 30 November 2025 (UTC) 97dlzgzbpplf6r17xjlmazltjyzgbc5 4 3072476 5007746 4993184 2026-04-13T18:35:25Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 close open poll in archive 5007746 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Talkarchive}} == Toward a new minor paradigm == {{tl|poll}} First: this is not really a MAJOR proposal -- I'm just spitballing an idea here - little more. This has been on my mind for a little while now. I have (since my earliest days) been a lover of short articles. I love short fiction (not the same thing, mind you) -- and I've always thought this format/world is perfectly primed for short articles. To that end, here is my very loose idea: I have thought that we might have some sort of section/segment/area here where we might have the English WN form of what might be considered "News Briefs". "Quick News", "News Shorts", "Fast News", "Newslines"-- I don't know, just off the top of my head. Essentially, the submitter would '''START''' their article with that in mind -- <u>that would be the beginning of an article</u>. e.g. "A busload of students struck and embankment in yada-ya on Monday. Three students suffered minor injuries and have been released from hospital." Absolute MAX of 3 sentences. With a hair of proper sourcing, we could publish that quickly -- BUT the idea would be the contributor then ''develops'' that into a full blown article. I think we could make this work. We have struggled '''horribly''' for many years on developing/retaining reporters here. They come here, get an article or two published, then get an article or two rejected: then vanish; major issue here for a long time. This might help impact that in a positive way. I am fully open to thoughts. It might require minor code ninja help, frankly: not sure about that. Please share your thoughts here.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:10, 14 November 2025 (UTC) : {{support}} as long as we maintain protection against ''focal event creep''. We could even allow them to evolve into semi-live-update pages on a hot topic, keeping them open for editing, possibly indefinitely.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:24, 14 November 2025 (UTC) :{{support}}: I like the idea of brief news. But I assume it would be a separate segment or a separate project, rather than a regular article directly. Of course, if someone wants to create a full-fledged article from a brief item, they can certainly do that. :If I imagine how it could look, maybe it would be similar to [[en:w:Portal:Current events]], but formatted more like wikinews? :And if we create a segment like this, I think it would also be good to display it somewhere on the main page. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 21:40, 14 November 2025 (UTC) :Question - How would the later development the user does for the article be reviewed? How is it guaranteed that whatever is added still adheres to the strict standards people apply at initial review? In other words, I must be missing something, and will support once someone points out what it is. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 22:04, 14 November 2025 (UTC) :: With flagged revisions, once an article is published there can be essentially two versions of the same article; one stable when published, and one with pending changes. Only logged-in users can see pending changes, so bots, crawlers, etc, that don't log in don't have access to unsighted, pending changes. :: We could change our archive policy or amend it for these briefs/shorts/snippets to say they aren't archived or protected or are at a much later date. As they are amended/edited/updated, those changes can be reviewed, I assume in some sort of perpetuity, on a rolling basis. We already do it in the first 24-hours post publication. :: This would mean that reviewers would have to keep an eye on the [[:Category:Review|list of pending changes]] (which is currently not effectively managed). We could implement some template for the talk page like edit requests, but call them re-review requests or sight requests or whatever.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 23:37, 14 November 2025 (UTC) :::Can you explain how publishing a fresh article that is one sentence long that is updated a week later to have several paragraphs would be different from simply publishing that multi paragraph article as a week-old stale article? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 03:50, 15 November 2025 (UTC) ::::Honestly, this is a loose idea. What I am hoping for (in a '''perfect''' world) is the original writer would do the 'brief' (or whatever term we use) -- ideally, 2 - 3 sentences. Then, come back a day or two later and "finish" that item -- such that it meets at least 100 words. Still germinating this idea. The 7-day window most probably would not shift on the whole package.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:14, 17 November 2025 (UTC) :::::You didn't in any way answer my question, was it confusing somehow? I'm asking what is gained by doing it this way versus outright publishing the finished article anew after a week. Anyone who sees the stub articles and reads them won't know to come back in a week, after which it's stale anyway, and you've made your attitude clear on stale content, so what is gained? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 17:10, 17 November 2025 (UTC) ::::::@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] I am still waiting for feedback on this. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:24, 20 November 2025 (UTC) ::Some interesting commentary here. My further thoughts: I have this thing (in my brain) that we could publish some quick thing from the contributor (quickly!) and then they would '''later''' come back and essentially ''complete'' what they started. I also am not suggesting publishing ANYTHING 8 days after the fact (although Michael suggested - I think - being able to update the article for a long time)...that could prove potentially interesting. Going beyond all that: I may be guilty of over-thinking this! In another century, we did this 'News Briefs' and 'Shorts' thing. It might be a lot of fun to do a HUGE project re-launch along those lines. Just pondering...--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:51, 20 November 2025 (UTC) :::I guess I wasn't clear enough in my question. What is the complete publishing paradigm you envision? How would people who read the "brief" version know to find the completed version later? What is gained by having it this way? What is the timeline looking like exactly? It's very hard to understand what you mean without specifics as far as what the outcome would be and what changes are involved. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 21:29, 20 November 2025 (UTC) ::::Considering our readers, the benefit might not be there. So: that part is worthy of consideration. My larger focus here is retention of contributors. Example: One user I was looking at yesterday, contributed roughly 10 articles this year -- 1 was published, the rest failed publication. I also think a massive overhaul of our Main page might be of value -- we can use that page's layout to calibrate or re-calibrate visitors' collective focus. I don't suggest (except when a notable interview happens AND functions as the focal event of an article) changing anything around here in terms of fresh vs. stale. Probably my whole: "Write 3 sentences, then come back 2 days later and write 6 more"- thing probably won't work. When anyone here works, and their output fails publication -- I hate to see that happen. I don't like it one bit. I am largely focused on the "reward" of seeing one's work get published here combined with training/retaining reporters at this place. I think I am going to spend some time looking at our News Briefs/Shorts section here to learn a bit more about that and see if something comes up. I've seen a lot of people come and go here. We don't have a very good system for measuring "Why did you go away?" Just trying to consider some new ideas/paradigm at this place.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:29, 21 November 2025 (UTC) :::::I think having a ui to write the new story in 2 clicks (new story, fill a form, click add) would help. "Enter title, text, 2 sources". :::::Currently is too hard, go somewhere, type page title, click go, type content, click save, type summary, click save. TOO MANY STEPS. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:22, 21 November 2025 (UTC) :I don't disagree with that assessment. Let me dig a little on the old News Briefs/News Shorts thing we had a long time ago. And -- as I said before (in full disclosure) I do have a bias in favor of short articles. Give me a bit of time and I will report back here later.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:34, 21 November 2025 (UTC) ::I think a positive take-away from this idea is just to encourage very short articles, leaving out many extraneous details people seem to make. If we encourage one-paragraph articles that would help. _and_ now that I think about it, allowing "expansion" articles '''which are published as separate, linked article a few days later''' may be a very logical way to go about getting the basics of your idea into something more easy to perceive (at least to me). Does this seem to line up, for you? This way, the published articles don't get changed. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:00, 21 November 2025 (UTC) ::: To make sure I understand you here; you disagree with the proposed "the contributor then develops that [short or brief] into a full blown article." and instead prefer the short articles to remain as-is, archived as a single paragraph, and any new development on the focal event happens in a new and separate article. Is that correct?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:23, 21 November 2025 (UTC) ::::That is correct. It seems to be clearer what is happening from a reader's viewpoint. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 17:34, 22 November 2025 (UTC) :We have something similar on[[:w:n:ja:短信:2025年/11月/30日]]. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:29, 1 December 2025 (UTC) <big>Please read this small update</big> <br> What is found here: [[Wikinews:Briefs/June 1, 2006]] is actually a ''near perfect'' representation of what I have in mind (it's quite old). But, please note -- The headline on the short is linked to the 'real' article. The headings are even geographically-oriented. That is what I was leaning toward. Maybe (haven't looked at dates -- note that), the beginning was the real article and then someone aggregated that stuff into a long page of Briefs? Not sure. <br> In a perfect world: It would operate the other way around. The contributor would start with around 3 sentences, which is published ("Brief" or "Short" or whatever)and then the "real" article would follow. (I have fallen out of love with that, somewhat, as I am hesitant to believe people would do 18% of an article and come back and do the other 82% in the near-term). I am still thinking and pondering on this stuff. Maybe (just pondering) brand new people could ONLY write a brief? Then (after 30 days/4 briefs) could 'graduate' into writing full articles? I will have to ponder that and we'd need to think about that. I am gathering thoughts/making notes etc. I want to do at least a medium-scale proposal on the idea AND I think we should start with something kind of small. Full disclosure: I want it to be easy for new people to come here -- do some small good things and see their name 'in lights' fairly quickly. If we have the next Pulitzer god/goddess walk in the door, I am hesitant to tell them: You only get 40 words for the next 2 months! ''BUT'': Maybe that "box" would help them to focus on knocking out a few tight sentences and how to source correctly. Please share thoughts. This is a work-in-progress.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:01, 22 November 2025 (UTC) :{{Support}} Not bad. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:02, 22 November 2025 (UTC) : {{support}} I do mark short articles at 'not ready' relatively frequently when they don't meet our 100 word minimum. This could be a way to get 'points on the board' and we have already seen when publication increases, so too does other activity. They'd theoretically be quicker/easier to review.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:37, 23 November 2025 (UTC) :Support. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:43, 23 November 2025 (UTC) :If thats presented to users as "brief", then the full one is presented as "report", yes? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 14:00, 23 November 2025 (UTC) ::Well: remember, this is still pinging around inside my head. The ''perfect'' flow (whatever flows perfectly around this project??) would be -- the contributor pushes out a 'Short' and then (using most of that) builds up the "real" article to full length. The "short" won't vanish -- it just lives in another place. Honestly: I think we could (''should'') maybe roll this out in Phases (1,2,3,4) -- but can hardly event tell you what phases 3 and 4 would event look like right now.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:37, 24 November 2025 (UTC) ::: I don't oppose the idea. But it does sound like we're simply lowering our minimum length requirements. We already can (and do) perform the rest of it, I believe, such as with [[New York judge rules terrorism charges legally insufficient in Mangione case]]. Each previous article is linked in the 'Related news' section. Maybe I'm missing something. ::: Are you suggesting that the ''short'' and the ''full'' both share the same focal event, and both are developed and published within the 5-7 day [[WN:Freshness]] window? Do we do anything with a ''short'' that never successfully gets an associated ''full'' published?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:00, 24 November 2025 (UTC) ::::You're on the right track -- and yes. One is "9% of the story" and the other is "the remaining 91% of the story". I am still mulling the mechanics of that, and I want all of that to be simple/minimalist in its design. For this to be the training/recruitment/retention tool I imagine, we have to allow wiggle room to not get upset by the ''full article'' never being successfully pushed out (it will probably happen sometimes). I love our "strings" of related news and I'm not suggesting getting rid of any of that (we, honestly, should even [in a spirit of evergreen content] try to move on something in that arena); but that is "This thing happened on Monday" and here is a bulleted list of "This thing happened the day before and then this thing happened before that thing and this other thing happened before that thing"-style. That is no crime and would not go away. I am largely just focused on getting their name "in lights" quickly and with some close guidance/involvement.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:05, 24 November 2025 (UTC) ::{{comment}}<big>I am working on a big "white paper" of sorts on this whole larger idea,</big> which I will post here very soon.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:01, 24 November 2025 (UTC) == Miraheze == We should make a Miraheze now, maybe get new contribs? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:49, 2 December 2025 (UTC) :We're still contributing to WN site, aren't we? ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 22:36, 3 December 2025 (UTC) == Proposed to change site notice == Suggest a few changes 1) on taglet report page add a link to leave a feedback/comment, which goes to technical water cooler 2) make a page about Taglet for dummies like ''1) add (this) to (your commons.js) ''2) load (report link) ''3) tag pages which aren't tagged ''4) copyedit articles which are already tagged and need a rewrite ''with a screenshot included and no other text, mainly this should fit a screen without scrolling 3) then post it to site notice as ''the only'' message for a week and see if there are any new users who are going to help out [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:50, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :{{support}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 22:32, 10 December 2025 (UTC) ::{{support}} [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:36, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :::I made [[Wikinews:Article triage]] and swore profusely as I don't remember where the site notice is. Good luck. I have to disappear for around 15 hours. :-( [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 04:28, 11 December 2025 (UTC) ::::[[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:58, 11 December 2025 (UTC) :::::Thanks. I was adding a space which isn't there. "Message of the week: please help with [[Wikinews:Article triage|triaging new articles]] now.". Would this work? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:17, 11 December 2025 (UTC) ::::::Love it. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 05:20, 11 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::Done [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:24, 11 December 2025 (UTC) :::::::Extra point if 'withJS' starts to work again and users don't need to install things. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:24, 11 December 2025 (UTC) == Modification to sitenotice, re: recommendation to archive all editions of Wikinews == I took the [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ASitenotice&diff=4949969&oldid=4927330 bold action] to update our [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice|site banner]] to tell everyone that visits that the [[:m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force/Results of the consultation about Wikispore and Wikinews|Sister Projects Task Force has officially recommended archiving all editions of Wikinews]] and next steps are pending the Board. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:56, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :Just saying but I think people will head in the other direction sorry to say.... @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:00, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :I don't like how it looks at all... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:01, 28 November 2025 (UTC) ::I'm happy to accept an alternative proposal. What do you think is better? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 01:07, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :::Focus on '''tone''' please if you can, thanks. @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:06, 28 November 2025 (UTC) ::::Reworded. Better now? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 08:09, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :::::So much better, thank you @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] :::::And thanks for listening @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 12:28, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :Correct. --[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 22:37, 3 December 2025 (UTC) ::The effort is nice —- but… y’know. What’s done is done. I am sad as anyone might be, but: sometimes, things are just finished. I have a nose for, “When we want your opinion, we’ll give it to you.” —-and my nose is tingling rather severely. —[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 00:45, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :::That's a fact; the board didn't make a final decision, and the outcome could still be better. We've won the majority of community opinion, so you don't have to participate in any meta discussions, but we don't need to say anything discouraging here. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 01:21, 4 December 2025 (UTC) :Only one remark/question for now: is there no alternative at all for a Wikinews relaunch? (That is, not integrating it into Wikipedia - I'd even still prefer archiving the whole project over making it a part of WP.) [[User:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[User talk:De Wikischim|talk]]) 22:09, 14 December 2025 (UTC) ::If this project is entirely shuttered, the proposal above is amenable to [[:m:Wikinews Pulse]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 23:59, 14 December 2025 (UTC) :::Do you think the project will be closed down? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:25, 15 December 2025 (UTC) ::::I do. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 07:35, 15 December 2025 (UTC) ::::Hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] I disagree with phrase 'closed down'. I anticipate the effort for [[Wikinews:Migration]] will work for some time and there will be a space to write news with same admins running the site - with possibly more flexibility to develop adequate tooling for the wiki. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 09:56, 15 December 2025 (UTC) == Coding to help wikinews == https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/67187a8b-1dd4-44c7-b5b1-9c7621782135 [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 08:04, 19 December 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] test it maybe it can help? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 08:05, 19 December 2025 (UTC) ::Did it work? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 08:11, 19 December 2025 (UTC) ::: [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 08:17, 19 December 2025 (UTC) ::::#!/usr/bin/env python3 ::::""" ::::Wikinews Image Insertion Generator ::::Generates properly formatted wikitext for inserting Wikimedia Commons images ::::""" ::::def generate_wikinews_image(filename, caption, author, license="", :::: alignment="right", size="250px", thumb=True): :::: """ :::: Generate Wikinews-formatted image wikitext :::: :::: Args: :::: filename: Name of the file on Wikimedia Commons (e.g., "Example.jpg") :::: caption: Description of the image :::: author: Name of the photographer/creator :::: license: License type (e.g., "CC BY-SA 4.0", "Public Domain") :::: alignment: Image alignment - "right", "left", "center", or "none" :::: size: Image width (e.g., "250px", "300px") :::: thumb: Whether to use thumbnail format (True/False) :::: :::: Returns: :::: Formatted wikitext string :::: """ :::: # Build the wikitext components :::: parts = [f"File:{filename}"] :::: :::: if thumb: :::: parts.append("thumb") :::: :::: if alignment and alignment != "none": :::: parts.append(alignment) :::: :::: if size: :::: parts.append(size) :::: :::: # Build attribution :::: attribution = f"(Image: {author}" :::: if license: :::: attribution += f", {license}" :::: attribution += ")" :::: :::: # Combine caption with attribution :::: full_caption = f"{caption} {attribution}" :::: parts.append(full_caption) :::: :::: return "[[" + "|".join(parts) + "]]" ::::def generate_batch_images(image_list): :::: """ :::: Generate multiple image insertions from a list :::: :::: Args: :::: image_list: List of dicts with keys: filename, caption, author, license, alignment, size :::: :::: Returns: :::: String with all formatted images separated by newlines :::: """ :::: results = [] :::: for img in image_list: :::: wikitext = generate_wikinews_image( :::: filename=img.get('filename', ''), :::: caption=img.get('caption', ''), :::: author=img.get('author', ''), :::: license=img.get('license', ''), :::: alignment=img.get('alignment', 'right'), :::: size=img.get('size', '250px') :::: ) :::: results.append(wikitext) :::: :::: return "\n\n".join(results) ::::# Example usage ::::if __name__ == "__main__": :::: print("=== Single Image Example ===") :::: single = generate_wikinews_image( :::: filename="Climate_Protest_2024.jpg", :::: caption="Environmental activists march through downtown demanding climate action.", :::: author="Jane Doe", :::: license="CC BY-SA 4.0", :::: alignment="right", :::: size="300px" :::: ) :::: print(single) :::: print("\n") :::: :::: print("=== Batch Images Example ===") :::: images = [ :::: { :::: 'filename': 'City_Hall_Meeting.jpg', :::: 'caption': 'City council members debate the new housing policy.', :::: 'author': 'John Smith', :::: 'license': 'CC BY 3.0', :::: 'alignment': 'right', :::: 'size': '250px' :::: }, :::: { :::: 'filename': 'Election_Results.png', :::: 'caption': 'Final vote tallies displayed on the screen.', :::: 'author': 'Sarah Johnson / Wikimedia Commons', :::: 'license': 'CC BY-SA 4.0', :::: 'alignment': 'center', :::: 'size': '400px' :::: }, :::: { :::: 'filename': 'Press_Conference.jpg', :::: 'caption': 'The mayor addresses reporters following the announcement.', :::: 'author': 'Robert Lee', :::: 'license': 'Public Domain', :::: 'alignment': 'left', :::: 'size': '280px' :::: } :::: ] :::: :::: batch = generate_batch_images(images) :::: print(batch) :::: print("\n") :::: :::: print("=== Interactive Mode ===") :::: print("Enter image details (or press Enter to skip):") :::: print() :::: :::: filename = input("Filename (e.g., Example.jpg): ").strip() :::: if filename: :::: caption = input("Caption: ").strip() :::: author = input("Author name: ").strip() :::: license = input("License (optional): ").strip() :::: alignment = input("Alignment (right/left/center) [right]: ").strip() or "right" :::: size = input("Size (e.g., 250px) [250px]: ").strip() or "250px" :::: :::: result = generate_wikinews_image(filename, caption, author, license, alignment, size) :::: print("\n=== Generated Wikitext ===") :::: print(result) [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 08:18, 19 December 2025 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 08:19, 19 December 2025 (UTC) == Claude AI is very helpful for coding == Just a heads-up Claude AI works wonders with coding etc. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 12:25, 19 December 2025 (UTC) :Maybe @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] would be a guide to them. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 14:51, 19 December 2025 (UTC) == Discord for Wikinews server == [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 08:58, 19 December 2025 (UTC) :Wikinews English Edition Discord Server Setup Guide :Initial Server Creation :Step 1: Create the Server :Open Discord and click the "+" button in your server list :Select "Create My Own" :Choose "For a club or community" :Name it "Wikinews English Edition" or "Wikinews EN" :Upload the Wikinews logo as the server icon (download from wikinews.org) :Step 2: Server Description :Add this to Server Settings → Overview: :Official/Unofficial community Discord for Wikinews English edition contributors, readers, and supporters. Discuss current events, collaborate on articles, and connect with fellow citizen journalists. :Channel Structure :📋 Information Category :#welcome - Welcome message, server rules, links to Wikinews :#rules - Detailed community guidelines :#announcements - Important updates (restrict posting to moderators) :#resources - Links to style guides, policies, and helpful tools :💬 General Category :#general - General discussion :#introductions - New member introductions :#off-topic - Non-Wikinews conversation :📰 Wikinews Category :#article-discussion - Discuss ongoing and published articles :#story-ideas - Propose new article topics :#review-requests - Request article reviews :#collaboration - Coordinate on multi-author pieces :#breaking-news - Alert about developing stories :🛠️ Contribution Category :#help-desk - Get help with editing, formatting, policies :#technical-support - Wiki software and technical issues :#translations - Coordinate translation efforts :🎯 Meta Category :#feedback - Server feedback and suggestions :#moderator-contact - Private channel for contacting mods :Role Setup :Administrative Roles :@Admin - Full server permissions :@Moderator - Manage messages, members, kick/ban :Contributor Roles :@Wikinews Administrator - Verified Wikinews admins :@Accredited Reporter - Verified accredited reporters :@Active Contributor - Regular article contributors :@Contributor - Has published at least one article :@Reader - Default role for community members :Special Roles :@Bot - For Discord bots :@Muted - Temporary mute for rule violations :Server Rules :Create a comprehensive rules channel with: :Be respectful and civil - No harassment, hate speech, or personal attacks :Follow Wikinews policies - Maintain neutrality, cite sources, respect copyright :No spam or self-promotion - Keep content relevant to Wikinews :Verify credentials appropriately - Don't impersonate Wikinews staff or accredited reporters :Protect privacy - Don't share personal information without consent :Use appropriate channels - Keep discussions organized :No illegal content - Absolutely no illegal content or activities :English primary - Keep main channels in English (can create language-specific channels if needed) :Respect Discord ToS - Follow all Discord Terms of Service :Assume good faith - Approach disagreements constructively :Moderation Setup :AutoMod Configuration :Filter common slurs and inappropriate language :Prevent spam (repeated messages, excessive caps, mass mentions) :Block suspicious links and known phishing domains :Require account age minimum (7-14 days recommended) :Useful Bots :MEE6 or Dyno - Moderation, auto-roles, logging :Carl-bot - Reaction roles, moderation tools :Wikinews RSS Bot - Auto-post new articles from Wikinews RSS feed :Verification System :Setting Up Verification :Create a #verification channel (read-only except for reactions) :Use a reaction role bot for self-verification :Post verification message explaining how to get the @Reader role :Contributor Verification :For users claiming to be active Wikinews contributors: :Ask them to link their Wikinews user page :Have them add a note on their Wikinews user page mentioning their Discord username :Grant appropriate role (@Contributor, @Active Contributor, etc.) :Server Settings :Moderation Settings :Verification Level: Medium (verified email required) :Explicit Content Filter: Scan messages from all members :2FA Requirement: Required for moderators :Community Settings :Enable Community Server features :Set up welcome screen with rules and key channels :Enable member screening with rules acceptance :Permissions :Restrict @everyone from posting in announcement channels :Allow @Contributor and above to embed links and attach files :Create private mod channels invisible to regular members :Launch Preparation :Before Going Public :Test all channels and permissions with a small group :Set up logging bot to track moderation actions :Create a mod handbook with response guidelines :Draft welcome message and pin in #welcome :Set up RSS feed for new Wikinews articles :Create invite links with appropriate expiration settings :Initial Announcement :Post on Wikinews talk pages, water cooler, and relevant WikiProjects to invite the community. :Ongoing Management :Regular Tasks :Monitor channels daily for rule violations :Update pinned messages in channels as needed :Review and respond to feedback :Coordinate with Wikinews community on major decisions :Back up important discussions and decisions :Growth Strategy :Engage with new members in #introductions :Highlight quality discussions and collaborations :Host occasional events (writing sprints, Q&As) :Cross-promote with Wikinews social media :This guide is designed for creating a community Discord server for Wikinews contributors and readers. Ensure compliance with Discord's Terms of Service and Wikinews community guidelines. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 08:58, 19 December 2025 (UTC) ::Sorry for the constant pinging but I thought it could help. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 08:59, 19 December 2025 (UTC) ::: I believe there is already a Discord server for en.WN but I'm not sure how much it is used or how effectively. My concern is that off-wiki coordination isn’t transparent to the project and can work against consensus-building. Participation becomes limited to whoever uses those platforms, and can encourage small, informal groups to form outside the on-wiki process. My experience with off-wiki spaces, IRC in particular, is that they often (and rapidly) become unproductive and dominated by a small number of voices, which makes genuine collaboration more difficult.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:43, 19 December 2025 (UTC) ::: This might be an interesting read: [https://design.wikimedia.org/strategy/digital-spaces.html Digital Spaces // Topical Neighborhoods]. In particular, the Top High-Level Takeaways section has this gem: ::: <blockquote>The best-functioning Wikiprojects are distinct: the most “effective” ones are characterized by egalitarian communication between members and “unstructured collaboration”.</blockquote> ::: I’ve noticed that when discussions become centralized around a small number of dominant voices, especially off-wiki, it can create a sense of hierarchy that discourages broader participation and undermines consensus-building. This is one of the reasons I prefer on-wiki communication, where transparency and egalitarian collaboration are easier to maintain.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:59, 19 December 2025 (UTC) ::::I understand where you're coming from. Thank you for your input. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 15:05, 19 December 2025 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], see https://discord.gg/PkSgYAnPw . [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 10:09, 21 December 2025 (UTC) 6ibudluey50tgporrtnzcd41lqyhh0f 3 3080173 5007874 4990814 2026-04-14T07:50:02Z Malarz pl 68869 Malarz pl moved page [[User talk:José Manuel EW]] to [[User talk:Renamed user ac322133074489212a78c4aea9ff3afe]] without leaving a redirect: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/José Manuel EW|José Manuel EW]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/Renamed user ac322133074489212a78c4aea9ff3afe|Renamed user ac322133074489212a78c4aea9ff3afe]]" 4990814 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=José Manuel EW}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 23:22, 28 February 2026 (UTC) 722nb5vkmmkrnwuetxbld5txyujfrvs 0 3084942 5007614 5006200 2026-04-13T14:51:36Z Tduk 411937 5007614 wikitext text/x-wiki {{develop}} {{Date|March 13, 2026}} [[File:Performance gala 2026 08.jpg|thumb|dancers at the entrance to the opening reception{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}}]] On March 13, 2026, The Performance Space in New York City held its annual Gala. The event featured an opening cocktail party at 6PM, a dinner at 8PM which featured performances and honorees, and an afterparty at 10PM. The year’s honorees were fashion designer {{w|Michèle Lamy}}, artist {{w|Paul McCarthy}}, and writer {{W|Samuel R. Delany}}. The event was nearly sold out and the room was packed with hundreds of people. The opening reception where people mingled was held in an outdoor heated area behind the venue. Servers who wore kinky outfits came out holding sculptures of prepared foods, which include baos, and variations on sushi. The main dinner was held upstairs on the fifth floor, where people were seated at their assigned tables. The foods served included a beef dish, pasta with meat, a mushroom option, and a bed of rice. While dinner was served, performances would occur, with breaks in between them. Some of these performances included burlesque elements. The performers listed on the program were {{w|Moses Sumney}}, {{w|Yseult (singer)|Yseult}}, Alok, {{w|Star Amerasu}}, Arewà Basit, Alex Takarsky, Jonah Almost, and Ruby McCollister. Yseult performed several songs at the start of the ceremony. About an hour into the ceremony, a performer read from Delany's book ''{{w|Times Square Red, Times Square Blue}}'', which led into an introduction of Delany, who was the first to be honored and gave a short speech. About 15 minutes later, McCarthy was honored and also gave a short speech. Lastly, Lamy was honored; she was not in attendance but had recorded a video message. This was followed by a performance of several songs by Sumney, who was backed only by a guitarist. The afterparty was down the hall from the main reception area, and was in a barely lit dark room with dance music and easily obtained drinks. Outside the venue, people were lining up to attend the afterparty. == Gallery == {{Sisters|commons|Category:20260313 Performance Space GALA}} <gallery> File:Pergala020202 09.jpg|Sushi on daikon radish{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}} File:Performance gala 2026 10.jpg|Assisting people at the elevator{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}} File:Pergala020202 10.jpg|Posing at the opening reception{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}} File:Pergala020202 04.jpg|Chicken and vegetable buns on a sculpture{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}} File:Performance gala 2026 29.jpg|A performer dangles meat out of their mouth while standing on one of the dinner tables{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}} </gallery> == Sources == {{Original reporting}} *{{source |url =https://performancespacenewyork.org/shows/gala-2026/ |title = Performance Space New York Gala 2026 |author = |pub = Performance Space New York |date = March 13, 2026 (date accessed) |archiveurl = |brokenURL = }} *{{source |url = https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVRkgZ9jurn/ |title = FEEL EVERYTHING |author = Performance Space New York |pub = Instagram |date = February 27, 2026 |archiveurl = |brokenURL = }} *{{source | url = https://www.pinupmagazine.org/articles/performance-space-gala-feel-everything | title = FEELING EVERYTHING AT THE PERFORMANCE SPACE GALA | author = Michael Bullock | pub = Pin-Up (magazine) | date = March 20, 2026 (date accessed) }} [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:New York, New York]] 2npb6u1aepk8zggd6fwonqg635x13yk 5007626 5007614 2026-04-13T15:08:07Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Mark as abandoned per talk: [[Talk:Performance Space in New York City holds annual gala honoring three artists#c-Tduk-20260413150400-Michael.C.Wright-20260413124000]] 5007626 wikitext text/x-wiki {{abandoned|April 13, 2026|}} {{Date|March 13, 2026}} [[File:Performance gala 2026 08.jpg|thumb|dancers at the entrance to the opening reception{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}}]] On March 13, 2026, The Performance Space in New York City held its annual Gala. The event featured an opening cocktail party at 6PM, a dinner at 8PM which featured performances and honorees, and an afterparty at 10PM. The year’s honorees were fashion designer {{w|Michèle Lamy}}, artist {{w|Paul McCarthy}}, and writer {{W|Samuel R. Delany}}. The event was nearly sold out and the room was packed with hundreds of people. The opening reception where people mingled was held in an outdoor heated area behind the venue. Servers who wore kinky outfits came out holding sculptures of prepared foods, which include baos, and variations on sushi. The main dinner was held upstairs on the fifth floor, where people were seated at their assigned tables. The foods served included a beef dish, pasta with meat, a mushroom option, and a bed of rice. While dinner was served, performances would occur, with breaks in between them. Some of these performances included burlesque elements. The performers listed on the program were {{w|Moses Sumney}}, {{w|Yseult (singer)|Yseult}}, Alok, {{w|Star Amerasu}}, Arewà Basit, Alex Takarsky, Jonah Almost, and Ruby McCollister. Yseult performed several songs at the start of the ceremony. About an hour into the ceremony, a performer read from Delany's book ''{{w|Times Square Red, Times Square Blue}}'', which led into an introduction of Delany, who was the first to be honored and gave a short speech. About 15 minutes later, McCarthy was honored and also gave a short speech. Lastly, Lamy was honored; she was not in attendance but had recorded a video message. This was followed by a performance of several songs by Sumney, who was backed only by a guitarist. The afterparty was down the hall from the main reception area, and was in a barely lit dark room with dance music and easily obtained drinks. Outside the venue, people were lining up to attend the afterparty. == Gallery == {{Sisters|commons|Category:20260313 Performance Space GALA}} <gallery> File:Pergala020202 09.jpg|Sushi on daikon radish{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}} File:Performance gala 2026 10.jpg|Assisting people at the elevator{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}} File:Pergala020202 10.jpg|Posing at the opening reception{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}} File:Pergala020202 04.jpg|Chicken and vegetable buns on a sculpture{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}} File:Performance gala 2026 29.jpg|A performer dangles meat out of their mouth while standing on one of the dinner tables{{image source|[[commons:User:Tduk|Alex Lozupone (Wikimedia Commons)]]}} </gallery> == Sources == {{Original reporting}} *{{source |url =https://performancespacenewyork.org/shows/gala-2026/ |title = Performance Space New York Gala 2026 |author = |pub = Performance Space New York |date = March 13, 2026 (date accessed) |archiveurl = |brokenURL = }} *{{source |url = https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVRkgZ9jurn/ |title = FEEL EVERYTHING |author = Performance Space New York |pub = Instagram |date = February 27, 2026 |archiveurl = |brokenURL = }} *{{source | url = https://www.pinupmagazine.org/articles/performance-space-gala-feel-everything | title = FEELING EVERYTHING AT THE PERFORMANCE SPACE GALA | author = Michael Bullock | pub = Pin-Up (magazine) | date = March 20, 2026 (date accessed) }} [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:New York, New York]] knydiuzz1ug0slwh6vvmzbeijvl5r5u 1 3084948 5007544 5007415 2026-04-13T12:40:25Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* Review of revision 5005343 [Not Ready] */ reply to Gryllida ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5007544 wikitext text/x-wiki == OR notes == I attended this event. I have some video recordings, but as far as I know all the claims can be backed up by the photos I am uploading and the sources included - happy to supply anything else that is needed. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 21:58, 16 March 2026 (UTC) :Hello! A few suggestions @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] : :* mention "a volunteer cobtributor to Wikinews attended the event" to first paragraph [essential item, noting this is exclusive report] :* add attribution to "The event was nearly sold out" [minimize bias] :* headline says "3 artists", text says "1 artist + 1 something + 1 something else". is this consistent? [Cross checking...] :* could you use active voice in the text? See like "people were seated", "The performers listed on the program were" that is encyclopedic tone. This should, where possible, be replaced with active voice with VERBS as much as possible. [Style] :* in first paragraph and last paragraph clarify what this is about. Like what is the purpose of the event and who is running it. The recount of that in the last paragraph can include some background material like when did the galas start happening in the first place. [WHY of the 5W] :Hope this is helpful. Sorry for the delay, my brain was a bit downtime-ish recently (and still is). [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:52, 23 March 2026 (UTC) :p.s. yes please send one or two video recordings to scoop, that would be helpful as an internal record. :P.p.s. Can they not be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons? Did you identify yourself as a Wikimedian, and receive permission to take videos, from event organisers? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:55, 23 March 2026 (UTC) ::I don't identify as a Wikimedian typically, and since I don't have accreditation there didn't seem a point. They did know I was taking photos, I was not concentrating on taking videos since there was a lot of press there who was better situated to do that and I don't like doing redundant work. I'll see if I have anything additional I can send to scoop. I did get some audio from the event to assist in writing up the timing. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 12:29, 23 March 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5000627 [Not ready] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=5000627|copyright=n/a|newsworthy=Stale|verifiable=n/a|npov=n/a|style=n/a|reviewer=Bddpaux|comments=Sorry this went stale -- a notable effort!!|time=19:54, 29 March 2026 (UTC)}} : I would like to point out that this story is 16 days old, yet your story [[Wikinews interviews magician and illusion builder Bruce Chadwick for National Magic Week]] was 20 days old when published. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:10, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5005343 [Not Ready] == {{Peer_reviewed | revid = 5005343 | copyright = n/a | newsworthy = n/a | verifiable = n/a | npov = n/a | style = Please use the <nowiki>{{source}}</nowiki> template properly. | reviewer = Michael.C.Wright | comments = Please follow the source listing format outlined in [[WN:SG#Linking_sources]] and [[:Template:Source]]. | time = 09:00, April 6, 2026 (UTC) }} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 09:00, 6 April 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]], just sharing my comments on the above :1. The above comment is vague and it does not point out what is wrong with the sources exactly. :2. I had a look and there is one essential point that was not done: fresher sources are not listed first. That is, first the source from March 20, then March 13, then the one from February. I need to say though that the specification of the source author or publisher can be considered a major issue and a reviewer is rightfully fine in not wishing to edit it himself/herself. :3. The above comment in my personal opinion is an indication of how poorly the system is setup. The message '''should not be vague and should be as clear as possible''', and whatever is the fix for this, it should have been '''fixed within an hour at most'''. :4. In view of the above messages and lack of action on it for last week, and for sake of cohesion, I am going to say that this fell out of the publish window, unless effort is undertaken to fix sources formatting and request confirmation from the two above reviewers that they are okay with publishing. :Note that I am not publishing articles after tomorrow, due to effort required for planned migration. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:21, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :: I am not okay with publishing unless a full and complete review is performed and all policies and guidelines are complied with once ''if'' article is published. :: I have not taken a close look at what's in the article to verify if everything is indeed supported by listed sources. But I'll again state that I do not believe "I attended this event." represents reporter's notes and therefore does not meet the standard set forth in [[WN:OR]]. :: I will also not be quoting what in that policy or others that supports my statement. 1. I already have in previous articles. 2. You ([[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]) as a long-time reviewer should know the policies and [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] having authored several articles here should also know what is required.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:40, 13 April 2026 (UTC) tlmewbw74wwtkujl2rew3dzns3sxq2m 5007624 5007544 2026-04-13T15:04:40Z Tduk 411937 /* Review of revision 5005343 [Not Ready] */ Reply 5007624 wikitext text/x-wiki == OR notes == I attended this event. I have some video recordings, but as far as I know all the claims can be backed up by the photos I am uploading and the sources included - happy to supply anything else that is needed. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 21:58, 16 March 2026 (UTC) :Hello! A few suggestions @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] : :* mention "a volunteer cobtributor to Wikinews attended the event" to first paragraph [essential item, noting this is exclusive report] :* add attribution to "The event was nearly sold out" [minimize bias] :* headline says "3 artists", text says "1 artist + 1 something + 1 something else". is this consistent? [Cross checking...] :* could you use active voice in the text? See like "people were seated", "The performers listed on the program were" that is encyclopedic tone. This should, where possible, be replaced with active voice with VERBS as much as possible. [Style] :* in first paragraph and last paragraph clarify what this is about. Like what is the purpose of the event and who is running it. The recount of that in the last paragraph can include some background material like when did the galas start happening in the first place. [WHY of the 5W] :Hope this is helpful. Sorry for the delay, my brain was a bit downtime-ish recently (and still is). [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:52, 23 March 2026 (UTC) :p.s. yes please send one or two video recordings to scoop, that would be helpful as an internal record. :P.p.s. Can they not be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons? Did you identify yourself as a Wikimedian, and receive permission to take videos, from event organisers? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:55, 23 March 2026 (UTC) ::I don't identify as a Wikimedian typically, and since I don't have accreditation there didn't seem a point. They did know I was taking photos, I was not concentrating on taking videos since there was a lot of press there who was better situated to do that and I don't like doing redundant work. I'll see if I have anything additional I can send to scoop. I did get some audio from the event to assist in writing up the timing. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 12:29, 23 March 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5000627 [Not ready] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=5000627|copyright=n/a|newsworthy=Stale|verifiable=n/a|npov=n/a|style=n/a|reviewer=Bddpaux|comments=Sorry this went stale -- a notable effort!!|time=19:54, 29 March 2026 (UTC)}} : I would like to point out that this story is 16 days old, yet your story [[Wikinews interviews magician and illusion builder Bruce Chadwick for National Magic Week]] was 20 days old when published. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:10, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5005343 [Not Ready] == {{Peer_reviewed | revid = 5005343 | copyright = n/a | newsworthy = n/a | verifiable = n/a | npov = n/a | style = Please use the <nowiki>{{source}}</nowiki> template properly. | reviewer = Michael.C.Wright | comments = Please follow the source listing format outlined in [[WN:SG#Linking_sources]] and [[:Template:Source]]. | time = 09:00, April 6, 2026 (UTC) }} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 09:00, 6 April 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]], just sharing my comments on the above :1. The above comment is vague and it does not point out what is wrong with the sources exactly. :2. I had a look and there is one essential point that was not done: fresher sources are not listed first. That is, first the source from March 20, then March 13, then the one from February. I need to say though that the specification of the source author or publisher can be considered a major issue and a reviewer is rightfully fine in not wishing to edit it himself/herself. :3. The above comment in my personal opinion is an indication of how poorly the system is setup. The message '''should not be vague and should be as clear as possible''', and whatever is the fix for this, it should have been '''fixed within an hour at most'''. :4. In view of the above messages and lack of action on it for last week, and for sake of cohesion, I am going to say that this fell out of the publish window, unless effort is undertaken to fix sources formatting and request confirmation from the two above reviewers that they are okay with publishing. :Note that I am not publishing articles after tomorrow, due to effort required for planned migration. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:21, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :: I am not okay with publishing unless a full and complete review is performed and all policies and guidelines are complied with once ''if'' article is published. :: I have not taken a close look at what's in the article to verify if everything is indeed supported by listed sources. But I'll again state that I do not believe "I attended this event." represents reporter's notes and therefore does not meet the standard set forth in [[WN:OR]]. :: I will also not be quoting what in that policy or others that supports my statement. 1. I already have in previous articles. 2. You ([[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]) as a long-time reviewer should know the policies and [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] having authored several articles here should also know what is required.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:40, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :::I withdrawing this from consideration since the only reason I published it was because we could have beat the other news source. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:04, 13 April 2026 (UTC) e3yroq4oq66wtwbf1an335kh9biuu6n 5007627 5007624 2026-04-13T15:08:51Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* Review of revision 5005343 [Not Ready] */ edit reply to Gryllida remove typo ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5007627 wikitext text/x-wiki == OR notes == I attended this event. I have some video recordings, but as far as I know all the claims can be backed up by the photos I am uploading and the sources included - happy to supply anything else that is needed. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 21:58, 16 March 2026 (UTC) :Hello! A few suggestions @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] : :* mention "a volunteer cobtributor to Wikinews attended the event" to first paragraph [essential item, noting this is exclusive report] :* add attribution to "The event was nearly sold out" [minimize bias] :* headline says "3 artists", text says "1 artist + 1 something + 1 something else". is this consistent? [Cross checking...] :* could you use active voice in the text? See like "people were seated", "The performers listed on the program were" that is encyclopedic tone. This should, where possible, be replaced with active voice with VERBS as much as possible. [Style] :* in first paragraph and last paragraph clarify what this is about. Like what is the purpose of the event and who is running it. The recount of that in the last paragraph can include some background material like when did the galas start happening in the first place. [WHY of the 5W] :Hope this is helpful. Sorry for the delay, my brain was a bit downtime-ish recently (and still is). [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:52, 23 March 2026 (UTC) :p.s. yes please send one or two video recordings to scoop, that would be helpful as an internal record. :P.p.s. Can they not be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons? Did you identify yourself as a Wikimedian, and receive permission to take videos, from event organisers? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:55, 23 March 2026 (UTC) ::I don't identify as a Wikimedian typically, and since I don't have accreditation there didn't seem a point. They did know I was taking photos, I was not concentrating on taking videos since there was a lot of press there who was better situated to do that and I don't like doing redundant work. I'll see if I have anything additional I can send to scoop. I did get some audio from the event to assist in writing up the timing. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 12:29, 23 March 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5000627 [Not ready] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=5000627|copyright=n/a|newsworthy=Stale|verifiable=n/a|npov=n/a|style=n/a|reviewer=Bddpaux|comments=Sorry this went stale -- a notable effort!!|time=19:54, 29 March 2026 (UTC)}} : I would like to point out that this story is 16 days old, yet your story [[Wikinews interviews magician and illusion builder Bruce Chadwick for National Magic Week]] was 20 days old when published. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:10, 29 March 2026 (UTC) == Review of revision 5005343 [Not Ready] == {{Peer_reviewed | revid = 5005343 | copyright = n/a | newsworthy = n/a | verifiable = n/a | npov = n/a | style = Please use the <nowiki>{{source}}</nowiki> template properly. | reviewer = Michael.C.Wright | comments = Please follow the source listing format outlined in [[WN:SG#Linking_sources]] and [[:Template:Source]]. | time = 09:00, April 6, 2026 (UTC) }} -- [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 09:00, 6 April 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]], just sharing my comments on the above :1. The above comment is vague and it does not point out what is wrong with the sources exactly. :2. I had a look and there is one essential point that was not done: fresher sources are not listed first. That is, first the source from March 20, then March 13, then the one from February. I need to say though that the specification of the source author or publisher can be considered a major issue and a reviewer is rightfully fine in not wishing to edit it himself/herself. :3. The above comment in my personal opinion is an indication of how poorly the system is setup. The message '''should not be vague and should be as clear as possible''', and whatever is the fix for this, it should have been '''fixed within an hour at most'''. :4. In view of the above messages and lack of action on it for last week, and for sake of cohesion, I am going to say that this fell out of the publish window, unless effort is undertaken to fix sources formatting and request confirmation from the two above reviewers that they are okay with publishing. :Note that I am not publishing articles after tomorrow, due to effort required for planned migration. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:21, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :: I am not okay with publishing unless a full and complete review is performed and all policies and guidelines are complied with ''if'' article is published. <br> I have not taken a close look at what's in the article to verify if everything is indeed supported by listed sources. But I'll again state that I do not believe "I attended this event." represents reporter's notes and therefore does not meet the standard set forth in [[WN:OR]]. <br> I will also not be quoting what in that policy or others that supports my statement. 1. I already have in previous articles. 2. You ([[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]) as a long-time reviewer should know the policies and [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] having authored several articles here should also know what is required.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:40, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :::I withdrawing this from consideration since the only reason I published it was because we could have beat the other news source. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:04, 13 April 2026 (UTC) ai7da23s74uenwu4e6hjxinuqq1v51m 4 3088290 5007806 5006534 2026-04-13T23:13:37Z Codename Noreste 2865115 Removing whitespace. 5007806 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Prepare}} {{WikimediaMention}} [[File:Wikinews-logo.png|right|220px|thumb|Logo of Wikinews, adopted by the community through a [[meta:Wikinews logo contest voting|logo contest]] held in January–February 2005. 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In the announcement message, trustee [[meta:User:Victoria|Victoria Doronina]] said, "We thank all contributors who have participated in Wikinews over the years and helped build a unique experiment in collaborative journalism within the Wikimedia movement, and we understand that some of them might be disappointed by this decision. To our regret, the project wasn’t able to fulfil its promise, and many of its functions were eclipsed by the notable news coverage in Wikipedias." Wikinews launched in November 2004. It was first proposed by an anonymous contributor in January 2003<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikinews/Archive&diff=prev&oldid=4306 --> and faced a community vote that ended 151 yea and 59 nay, leading to the first demo going live in October 2004.<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote --> The English-language Wikinews was formally created December&nbsp;2 of that year, with German following one day later.<!--Context of blogs, citizen journalism (e.g. Occupy, Indymedia, blogger's bill of rights)--> The project's early development followed a series of community discussions and milestones in late 2004 and early 2005. A [[meta:Wikinews/License straw poll|non-binding straw poll]] on content licensing began on October 26, 2004, alongside discussions on the project's scope and policies. The initial demo site, hosted at ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20041117013229/http://demo.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page demo.wikinews.org]'', was later moved to the English Wikinews domain on December 2, 2004. Following the launch of the English and German editions in December 2004, additional language editions were created in early 2005, including Dutch, French, Swedish, Spanish, Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, and Portuguese. The project also adopted a logo in February 2005 through a community voting process. According to the [[meta:Wikinews manifesto|project's manifesto]], "Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape." The manifesto further described, "We seek to promote the idea of the citizen journalist, because we believe that everyone can make a useful contribution to painting the big picture of what is happening in the world around us." At the time that the closure of Wikinews was announced, there were reportedly only about 700 active editors among all 31 language editions combined. <!-- Illustrative quote from the manifesto: We seek to create a free source of news, where the 10% of human beings (as of 2004) with internet access, and in the future certainly more of us, are invited to contribute reports about events large and small, either from direct experience, or summarized from elsewhere. Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape. --> <!--Expansion of editions, original reporting, experiments with spoken/print editions, press coverage (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Press_coverage), licensing changes, expansion of sr.wn and ru.wn, creation of Wikinewsie group, launch of WikiTribune and Infobitt, dpl breaking, task force review/vote--> <!--Get interviews with key Wikinewsies--> <!--https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/06/27/community-consultation-about-the-wikispore-and-wikinews/--> <!--Per talk: History Visualization of articles by Overview of past research Greatest hits (Some interviews and other facts from Wikinews and the broad range of featured and classic articles) Wikinews investigates... Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff; Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Wikinews interviews... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, Trischa Zorn, Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... Past projects or services Accreditation Interview series Education Photo essays; POTY and spinoffs--> ==External links== *{{source |url=https://www.heise.de/en/news/Wikimedia-Foundation-is-shutting-down-news-project-Wikinews-11249432.html |title=Wikimedia Foundation is shutting down news project Wikinews |author=Enrico Giardina |pub=Heise Online |date=April 8, 2026}} *{{source |url = https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/XOP5OXEYO2XLQJNGFJHCYOPJT5LPTF7P/ |title = &#91;Wikimedia-l&#93; Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews |author = Victoria Doronina |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = March 30, 2026 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews |title = Wikinews |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll |title = Wikinews/License straw poll |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = October 26, 2004 }} [[Category:Wikinews]] 0rlq42tv1znxavbw9jnrn1pjo20nvgr 5007900 5007806 2026-04-14T10:27:33Z Koavf 5879 5007900 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Prepare}} {{WikimediaMention}} [[File:Wikinews-logo.png|right|220px|thumb|Logo of Wikinews, adopted by the community through a [[meta:Wikinews logo contest voting|logo contest]] held in January–February 2005. It replaced the [[:File:Wikinews logo.png|beta version]] logo. ]] On May 4, 2026, the Wikinews project was scheduled to be closed, after the [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation/Board of Trustees|Board of Trustees]] of the {{W|Wikimedia Foundation}} announced on March&nbsp;30 its final decision to close all language editions of the project. Wikinews was a sister project of other Wikimedia initiatives, including {{w|Wikipedia}}, {{w|Wiktionary}}, and {{w|Wikimedia Commons}}, which support the dissemination of free knowledge and media. The future of Wikinews was raised for consideration in late 2025, with a Wikimedia Foundation task force recommending the project's closure, followed by [[meta:Public consultation about Wikinews|a period of public consultation about Wikinews]]. After this process, the Board announced in March 2026 that the 31 active editions of Wikinews would be placed in read-only mode indefinitely. In the announcement message, trustee [[meta:User:Victoria|Victoria Doronina]] said, "We thank all contributors who have participated in Wikinews over the years and helped build a unique experiment in collaborative journalism within the Wikimedia movement, and we understand that some of them might be disappointed by this decision. To our regret, the project wasn’t able to fulfil its promise, and many of its functions were eclipsed by the notable news coverage in Wikipedias." Wikinews launched in November 2004. It was first proposed by an anonymous contributor in January 2003<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikinews/Archive&diff=prev&oldid=4306 --> and faced a community vote that ended 151 yea and 59 nay, leading to the first demo going live in October 2004.<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote --> The English-language Wikinews was formally created December&nbsp;2 of that year, with German following one day later.<!--Context of blogs, citizen journalism (e.g. Occupy, Indymedia, blogger's bill of rights)--> The project's early development followed a series of community discussions and milestones in late 2004 and early 2005. A [[meta:Wikinews/License straw poll|non-binding straw poll]] on content licensing began on October 26, 2004, alongside discussions on the project's scope and policies. The initial demo site, hosted at ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20041117013229/http://demo.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page demo.wikinews.org]'', was later moved to the English Wikinews domain on December 2, 2004. Following the launch of the English and German editions in December 2004, additional language editions were created in early 2005, including Dutch, French, Swedish, Spanish, Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, and Portuguese. The project also adopted a logo in February 2005 through a community voting process. According to the [[meta:Wikinews manifesto|project's manifesto]], "Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape." The manifesto further described, "We seek to promote the idea of the citizen journalist, because we believe that everyone can make a useful contribution to painting the big picture of what is happening in the world around us." {{Quotation|We seek to create a free source of news, where the 10% of human beings (as of 2004) with internet access, and in the future certainly more of us, are invited to contribute reports about events large and small, either from direct experience, or summarized from elsewhere. Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape.||Wikinews Manifesto}} At the time that the closure of Wikinews was announced, there were reportedly only about 700 active editors among all 31 language editions combined. <!--Expansion of editions, original reporting, experiments with spoken/print editions, press coverage (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Press_coverage), licensing changes, expansion of sr.wn and ru.wn, creation of Wikinewsie group, launch of WikiTribune and Infobitt, dpl breaking, task force review/vote--> <!--Get interviews with key Wikinewsies--> <!--https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/06/27/community-consultation-about-the-wikispore-and-wikinews/--> <!--Per talk: History Visualization of articles by Overview of past research Greatest hits (Some interviews and other facts from Wikinews and the broad range of featured and classic articles) Wikinews investigates... Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff; Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Wikinews interviews... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, Trischa Zorn, Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... Past projects or services Accreditation Interview series Education Photo essays; POTY and spinoffs--> ==External links== *{{source |url=https://www.heise.de/en/news/Wikimedia-Foundation-is-shutting-down-news-project-Wikinews-11249432.html |title=Wikimedia Foundation is shutting down news project Wikinews |author=Enrico Giardina |pub=Heise Online |date=April 8, 2026}} *{{source |url = https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/XOP5OXEYO2XLQJNGFJHCYOPJT5LPTF7P/ |title = &#91;Wikimedia-l&#93; Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews |author = Victoria Doronina |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = March 30, 2026 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews |title = Wikinews |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll |title = Wikinews/License straw poll |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = October 26, 2004 }} [[Category:Wikinews]] 5pfqfzm4vnc0wccv89y5un368tht73o 5007901 5007900 2026-04-14T10:28:17Z Koavf 5879 5007901 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Prepare}} {{WikimediaMention}} [[File:Wikinews-logo.png|right|220px|thumb|Logo of Wikinews, adopted by the community through a [[meta:Wikinews logo contest voting|logo contest]] held in January–February 2005. It replaced the [[:File:Wikinews logo.png|beta version]] logo. ]] On May 4, 2026, the Wikinews project was scheduled to be closed, after the [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation/Board of Trustees|Board of Trustees]] of the {{W|Wikimedia Foundation}} announced on March&nbsp;30 its final decision to close all language editions of the project. Wikinews was a sister project of other Wikimedia initiatives, including {{w|Wikipedia}}, {{w|Wiktionary}}, and {{w|Wikimedia Commons}}, which support the dissemination of free knowledge and media. The future of Wikinews was raised for consideration in late 2025, with a Wikimedia Foundation task force recommending the project's closure, followed by [[meta:Public consultation about Wikinews|a period of public consultation about Wikinews]]. After this process, the Board announced in March 2026 that the 31 active editions of Wikinews would be placed in read-only mode indefinitely. In the announcement message, trustee [[meta:User:Victoria|Victoria Doronina]] said, "We thank all contributors who have participated in Wikinews over the years and helped build a unique experiment in collaborative journalism within the Wikimedia movement, and we understand that some of them might be disappointed by this decision. To our regret, the project wasn’t able to fulfil its promise, and many of its functions were eclipsed by the notable news coverage in Wikipedias." Wikinews launched in November 2004. It was first proposed by an anonymous contributor in January 2003<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikinews/Archive&diff=prev&oldid=4306 --> and faced a community vote that ended 151 yea and 59 nay, leading to the first demo going live in October 2004.<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote --> The English-language Wikinews was formally created December&nbsp;2 of that year, with German following one day later.<!--Context of blogs, citizen journalism (e.g. Occupy, Indymedia, blogger's bill of rights)--> The project's early development followed a series of community discussions and milestones in late 2004 and early 2005. A [[meta:Wikinews/License straw poll|non-binding straw poll]] on content licensing began on October 26, 2004, alongside discussions on the project's scope and policies. The initial demo site, hosted at ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20041117013229/http://demo.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page demo.wikinews.org]'', was later moved to the English Wikinews domain on December 2, 2004. Following the launch of the English and German editions in December 2004, additional language editions were created in early 2005, including Dutch, French, Swedish, Spanish, Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, and Portuguese. The project also adopted a logo in February 2005 through a community voting process. According to the [[meta:Wikinews manifesto|project's manifesto]], "Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape." The manifesto further described, "We seek to promote the idea of the citizen journalist, because we believe that everyone can make a useful contribution to painting the big picture of what is happening in the world around us." At the time that the closure of Wikinews was announced, there were reportedly only about 700 active editors among all 31 language editions combined. <!--Expansion of editions, original reporting, experiments with spoken/print editions, press coverage (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Press_coverage), licensing changes, expansion of sr.wn and ru.wn, creation of Wikinewsie group, launch of WikiTribune and Infobitt, dpl breaking, task force review/vote--> <!--Get interviews with key Wikinewsies--> <!--https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/06/27/community-consultation-about-the-wikispore-and-wikinews/--> <!--Per talk: History Visualization of articles by Overview of past research Greatest hits (Some interviews and other facts from Wikinews and the broad range of featured and classic articles) Wikinews investigates... Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff; Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Wikinews interviews... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, Trischa Zorn, Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... Past projects or services Accreditation Interview series Education Photo essays; POTY and spinoffs--> ==External links== *{{source |url=https://www.heise.de/en/news/Wikimedia-Foundation-is-shutting-down-news-project-Wikinews-11249432.html |title=Wikimedia Foundation is shutting down news project Wikinews |author=Enrico Giardina |pub=Heise Online |date=April 8, 2026}} *{{source |url = https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/XOP5OXEYO2XLQJNGFJHCYOPJT5LPTF7P/ |title = &#91;Wikimedia-l&#93; Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews |author = Victoria Doronina |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = March 30, 2026 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews |title = Wikinews |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll |title = Wikinews/License straw poll |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = October 26, 2004 }} [[Category:Wikinews]] a1bobbaqxc63oacgo0k6s0h6zqesgv7 5007902 5007901 2026-04-14T10:31:16Z Koavf 5879 5007902 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Prepare}} {{WikimediaMention}} [[File:Wikinews-logo.png|right|220px|thumb|Logo of Wikinews, adopted by the community through a [[meta:Wikinews logo contest voting|logo contest]] held in January–February 2005. It replaced the [[:File:Wikinews logo.png|beta version]] logo. ]] On May 4, 2026, the Wikinews project was scheduled to be closed, after the [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation/Board of Trustees|Board of Trustees]] of the {{W|Wikimedia Foundation}} announced on March&nbsp;30 its final decision to close all language editions of the project. Wikinews was a sister project of other Wikimedia initiatives, including {{w|Wikipedia}}, {{w|Wiktionary}}, and {{w|Wikimedia Commons}}, which support the dissemination of free knowledge and media. The future of Wikinews was raised for consideration in late 2025, with a Wikimedia Foundation task force recommending the project's closure, followed by [[meta:Public consultation about Wikinews|a period of public consultation about Wikinews]]. After this process, the Board announced in March 2026 that the 31 active editions of Wikinews would be placed in read-only mode indefinitely. In the announcement message, trustee [[meta:User:Victoria|Victoria Doronina]] said, "We thank all contributors who have participated in Wikinews over the years and helped build a unique experiment in collaborative journalism within the Wikimedia movement, and we understand that some of them might be disappointed by this decision. To our regret, the project wasn’t able to fulfil its promise, and many of its functions were eclipsed by the notable news coverage in Wikipedias." Wikinews launched in November 2004. It was first proposed by an anonymous contributor in January 2003<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikinews/Archive&diff=prev&oldid=4306 --> and faced a community vote that ended 151 yea and 59 nay, leading to the first demo going live in October 2004.<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote --> The English-language Wikinews was formally created December&nbsp;2 of that year, with German following one day later.<!--Context of blogs, citizen journalism (e.g. Occupy, Indymedia, blogger's bill of rights)--> The project's early development followed a series of community discussions and milestones in late 2004 and early 2005. A [[meta:Wikinews/License straw poll|non-binding straw poll]] on content licensing began on October 26, 2004, alongside discussions on the project's scope and policies. The initial demo site, hosted at ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20041117013229/http://demo.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page demo.wikinews.org]'', was later moved to the English Wikinews domain on December 2, 2004. Following the launch of the English and German editions in December 2004, additional language editions were created in early 2005, including Dutch, French, Swedish, Spanish, Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, and Portuguese. The project also adopted a logo in February 2005 through a community voting process. {{Quote_box |width=45% |align=right |quote=“Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape… We seek to promote the idea of the citizen journalist, because we believe that everyone can make a useful contribution to painting the big picture of what is happening in the world around us.” |source=[[:m:Wikinews manifesto|Wikinews manifesto]], 2004 |}} At the time that the closure of Wikinews was announced, there were reportedly only about 700 active editors among all 31 language editions combined. <!--Expansion of editions, original reporting, experiments with spoken/print editions, press coverage (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Press_coverage), licensing changes, expansion of sr.wn and ru.wn, creation of Wikinewsie group, launch of WikiTribune and Infobitt, dpl breaking, task force review/vote--> <!--Get interviews with key Wikinewsies--> <!--https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/06/27/community-consultation-about-the-wikispore-and-wikinews/--> <!--Per talk: History Visualization of articles by Overview of past research Greatest hits (Some interviews and other facts from Wikinews and the broad range of featured and classic articles) Wikinews investigates... Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff; Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Wikinews interviews... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, Trischa Zorn, Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... Past projects or services Accreditation Interview series Education Photo essays; POTY and spinoffs--> ==External links== *{{source |url=https://www.heise.de/en/news/Wikimedia-Foundation-is-shutting-down-news-project-Wikinews-11249432.html |title=Wikimedia Foundation is shutting down news project Wikinews |author=Enrico Giardina |pub=Heise Online |date=April 8, 2026}} *{{source |url = https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/XOP5OXEYO2XLQJNGFJHCYOPJT5LPTF7P/ |title = &#91;Wikimedia-l&#93; Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews |author = Victoria Doronina |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = March 30, 2026 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews |title = Wikinews |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll |title = Wikinews/License straw poll |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = October 26, 2004 }} [[Category:Wikinews]] k12dwzm3jsau7a8p7i1c7hnjt24z7em 5007903 5007902 2026-04-14T10:32:11Z Koavf 5879 5007903 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Prepare}} {{WikimediaMention}} [[File:Wikinews-logo.png|right|220px|thumb|Logo of Wikinews, adopted by the community through a [[meta:Wikinews logo contest voting|logo contest]] held in January–February 2005. It replaced the [[:File:Wikinews logo.png|beta version]] logo.]] On May 4, 2026, the Wikinews project was scheduled to be closed, after the [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation/Board of Trustees|Board of Trustees]] of the {{W|Wikimedia Foundation}} announced on March&nbsp;30 its final decision to close all language editions of the project. Wikinews was a sister project of other Wikimedia initiatives, including {{w|Wikipedia}}, {{w|Wiktionary}}, and {{w|Wikimedia Commons}}, which support the dissemination of free knowledge and media. The future of Wikinews was raised for consideration in late 2025, with a Wikimedia Foundation task force recommending the project's closure, followed by [[meta:Public consultation about Wikinews|a period of public consultation about Wikinews]]. After this process, the Board announced in March 2026 that the 31 active editions of Wikinews would be placed in read-only mode indefinitely. In the announcement message, trustee [[meta:User:Victoria|Victoria Doronina]] said, "We thank all contributors who have participated in Wikinews over the years and helped build a unique experiment in collaborative journalism within the Wikimedia movement, and we understand that some of them might be disappointed by this decision. To our regret, the project wasn’t able to fulfil its promise, and many of its functions were eclipsed by the notable news coverage in Wikipedias." Wikinews launched in November 2004. It was first proposed by an anonymous contributor in January 2003<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikinews/Archive&diff=prev&oldid=4306 --> and faced a community vote that ended 151 yea and 59 nay, leading to the first demo going live in October 2004.<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote --> The English-language Wikinews was formally created December&nbsp;2 of that year, with German following one day later.<!--Context of blogs, citizen journalism (e.g. Occupy, Indymedia, blogger's bill of rights)--> The project's early development followed a series of community discussions and milestones in late 2004 and early 2005. A [[meta:Wikinews/License straw poll|non-binding straw poll]] on content licensing began on October 26, 2004, alongside discussions on the project's scope and policies. The initial demo site, hosted at ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20041117013229/http://demo.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page demo.wikinews.org]'', was later moved to the English Wikinews domain on December 2, 2004. Following the launch of the English and German editions in December 2004, additional language editions were created in early 2005, including Dutch, French, Swedish, Spanish, Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, and Portuguese. The project also adopted a [[:m:Wikinews/Logo|logo]] in February 2005 through a [[:m:Wikinews logo contest voting|community voting process]]. {{Quote_box |width=45% |align=right |quote=“Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape… We seek to promote the idea of the citizen journalist, because we believe that everyone can make a useful contribution to painting the big picture of what is happening in the world around us.” |source=[[:m:Wikinews manifesto|Wikinews manifesto]], 2004 |}} At the time that the closure of Wikinews was announced, there were reportedly only about 700 active editors among all 31 language editions combined. <!--Expansion of editions, original reporting, experiments with spoken/print editions, press coverage (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Press_coverage), licensing changes, expansion of sr.wn and ru.wn, creation of Wikinewsie group, launch of WikiTribune and Infobitt, dpl breaking, task force review/vote--> <!--Get interviews with key Wikinewsies--> <!--https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/06/27/community-consultation-about-the-wikispore-and-wikinews/--> <!--Per talk: History Visualization of articles by Overview of past research Greatest hits (Some interviews and other facts from Wikinews and the broad range of featured and classic articles) Wikinews investigates... Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff; Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Wikinews interviews... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, Trischa Zorn, Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... Past projects or services Accreditation Interview series Education Photo essays; POTY and spinoffs--> ==External links== *{{source |url=https://www.heise.de/en/news/Wikimedia-Foundation-is-shutting-down-news-project-Wikinews-11249432.html |title=Wikimedia Foundation is shutting down news project Wikinews |author=Enrico Giardina |pub=Heise Online |date=April 8, 2026}} *{{source |url = https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/XOP5OXEYO2XLQJNGFJHCYOPJT5LPTF7P/ |title = &#91;Wikimedia-l&#93; Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews |author = Victoria Doronina |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = March 30, 2026 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews |title = Wikinews |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll |title = Wikinews/License straw poll |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = October 26, 2004 }} [[Category:Wikinews]] 5jfpxeexl35tte9zzdj5yg44rs2z4py 0 3091494 5007730 5007517 2026-04-13T17:34:50Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 add HYS 5007730 wikitext text/x-wiki {{review}} {{date|13 April 2026}} On Sunday, United States President Donald Trump has announced that the US is imposing a blockade on the Strait of Hormuz to prevent other countries trading with Iranian ports in the area and to further weaken the Iranian regime. According to the US Central Command, the blockade will start at 10:00AM ET (5:30PM IRST). Trump announced the blockade via a Truth Social post. "Effective immediately, the United States Navy, the finest in the world, will be blockading any and all ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz," Trump declared. The blockade occurs in the aftermath of failed peace talks between the United States and Iran over the weekend in Islamabad. Oil prices have increased to over $100 a barrel in the aftermath of news of the blockade, and gas prices have also increased. Iran has dismissed the blockade, with parliament speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf scoffing at the blockade in an X post. Ghalibaf sarcastically told Americans to "enjoy the current pump figures" and stated that with the "so-called blockade," Americans would be "nostalgic for $4-$5 gas." He further denied that the blockade would impact Iran and stated that it would retaliate if the United States escalated. {{Haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source |url=https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/apr/13/oil-price-tops-100-dollars-barrel-us-blockade-strait-of-hormuz |title=Oil price tops $100 a barrel after peace talks fail and Trump orders blockade |author=Julia Kollewe |pub=The Guardian |date=13 April 2026 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20260413094025/https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/apr/13/oil-price-tops-100-dollars-barrel-us-blockade-strait-of-hormuz }} *{{source |url=https://www.businessinsider.com/oil-prices-surge-failed-us-iran-peace-talks-trumps-blockade-2026-4 |title=Oil surges past $100 a barrel after US-Iran peace talks fail and Trump threatens to blockade the Strait of Hormuz |author=Lauren Edmonds, Huileng Tan, and Theron Mohamed |pub=Business Insider |date=13 April 2026 |archiveurl= }} *{{source |url=https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/enjoy-it-now-iran-warns-of-painful-oil-price-surge-as-trump-escalates-blockade-threat/articleshow/130224254.cms |title='Enjoy it now:' Iran warns of painful oil price surge as Trump escalates blockade threat |pub=The Times of India |date=13 April 2026 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20260413094735/https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/enjoy-it-now-iran-warns-of-painful-oil-price-surge-as-trump-escalates-blockade-threat/articleshow/130224254.cms }} [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:Iran]] [[Category:Middle East]] [[Category:North America]] [[Category:Donald Trump]] 2lnhl4et3ulmzptlvdnzbnivx1ta0xa 5007889 5007730 2026-04-14T09:29:49Z CheatCodes4ever 2828722 CheatCodes4ever moved page [[United States imposes blockade on the Strait of Hormuz]] to [[United States announces blockade on the Strait of Hormuz]] 5007730 wikitext text/x-wiki {{review}} {{date|13 April 2026}} On Sunday, United States President Donald Trump has announced that the US is imposing a blockade on the Strait of Hormuz to prevent other countries trading with Iranian ports in the area and to further weaken the Iranian regime. According to the US Central Command, the blockade will start at 10:00AM ET (5:30PM IRST). Trump announced the blockade via a Truth Social post. "Effective immediately, the United States Navy, the finest in the world, will be blockading any and all ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz," Trump declared. The blockade occurs in the aftermath of failed peace talks between the United States and Iran over the weekend in Islamabad. Oil prices have increased to over $100 a barrel in the aftermath of news of the blockade, and gas prices have also increased. Iran has dismissed the blockade, with parliament speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf scoffing at the blockade in an X post. Ghalibaf sarcastically told Americans to "enjoy the current pump figures" and stated that with the "so-called blockade," Americans would be "nostalgic for $4-$5 gas." He further denied that the blockade would impact Iran and stated that it would retaliate if the United States escalated. {{Haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source |url=https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/apr/13/oil-price-tops-100-dollars-barrel-us-blockade-strait-of-hormuz |title=Oil price tops $100 a barrel after peace talks fail and Trump orders blockade |author=Julia Kollewe |pub=The Guardian |date=13 April 2026 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20260413094025/https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/apr/13/oil-price-tops-100-dollars-barrel-us-blockade-strait-of-hormuz }} *{{source |url=https://www.businessinsider.com/oil-prices-surge-failed-us-iran-peace-talks-trumps-blockade-2026-4 |title=Oil surges past $100 a barrel after US-Iran peace talks fail and Trump threatens to blockade the Strait of Hormuz |author=Lauren Edmonds, Huileng Tan, and Theron Mohamed |pub=Business Insider |date=13 April 2026 |archiveurl= }} *{{source |url=https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/enjoy-it-now-iran-warns-of-painful-oil-price-surge-as-trump-escalates-blockade-threat/articleshow/130224254.cms |title='Enjoy it now:' Iran warns of painful oil price surge as Trump escalates blockade threat |pub=The Times of India |date=13 April 2026 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20260413094735/https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/enjoy-it-now-iran-warns-of-painful-oil-price-surge-as-trump-escalates-blockade-threat/articleshow/130224254.cms }} [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:Iran]] [[Category:Middle East]] [[Category:North America]] [[Category:Donald Trump]] 2lnhl4et3ulmzptlvdnzbnivx1ta0xa 5007898 5007889 2026-04-14T10:17:56Z CheatCodes4ever 2828722 5007898 wikitext text/x-wiki {{review}} {{date|13 April 2026}} On Sunday, United States President Donald Trump announced that the US is imposing a blockade on the Strait of Hormuz to prevent other countries trading with Iranian ports in the area and to further weaken the Iranian regime. According to the US Central Command, the blockade will start at 10:00AM ET (5:30PM IRST). Trump announced the blockade via a Truth Social post. "Effective immediately, the United States Navy, the finest in the world, will be blockading any and all ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz," Trump declared. The blockade occurs in the aftermath of failed peace talks between the United States and Iran over the weekend in Islamabad. According to ''The Guardian'', oil prices have increased to over $100 a barrel in the aftermath of news of the blockade, and gas prices have also increased. Iran has dismissed the blockade, with parliament speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf sarcastically telling Americans on X to "enjoy the current pump figures" and stated that with the "so-called blockade," Americans would be "nostalgic for $4-$5 gas." He further denied that the blockade would impact Iran and stated that it would retaliate if the United States escalated. China has expressed their wish for the ceasefire to be maintained. The spokesperson for the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs stated that the Chinese government is willing to work with other countries to maintain the continued flow of oil supplies in the Strait of Hormuz, and have stated that the maintence of stability in the strait is of "paramount importance" to China. {{haveyoursay}} ==Sources== *{{source |url=https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/apr/13/oil-price-tops-100-dollars-barrel-us-blockade-strait-of-hormuz |title=Oil price tops $100 a barrel after peace talks fail and Trump orders blockade |author=Julia Kollewe |pub=The Guardian |date=13 April 2026 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20260413094025/https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/apr/13/oil-price-tops-100-dollars-barrel-us-blockade-strait-of-hormuz }} *{{source |url=https://www.businessinsider.com/oil-prices-surge-failed-us-iran-peace-talks-trumps-blockade-2026-4 |title=Oil surges past $100 a barrel after US-Iran peace talks fail and Trump threatens to blockade the Strait of Hormuz |author=Lauren Edmonds, Huileng Tan, and Theron Mohamed |pub=Business Insider |date=13 April 2026 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20260414101411/https://www.businessinsider.com/oil-prices-surge-failed-us-iran-peace-talks-trumps-blockade-2026-4 }} *{{source |url=https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/enjoy-it-now-iran-warns-of-painful-oil-price-surge-as-trump-escalates-blockade-threat/articleshow/130224254.cms |title='Enjoy it now:' Iran warns of painful oil price surge as Trump escalates blockade threat |pub=The Times of India |date=13 April 2026 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20260413094735/https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/enjoy-it-now-iran-warns-of-painful-oil-price-surge-as-trump-escalates-blockade-threat/articleshow/130224254.cms }} *{{source |url=https://iranwire.com/en/news/151161-china-reacts-to-strait-of-hormuz-blockade-global-energy-security-at-risk/ |title=China Reacts to Strait of Hormuz Blockade: Global Energy Security at Risk |pub=IranWire |date=13 April 2026 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20260414101411/https://www.businessinsider.com/oil-prices-surge-failed-us-iran-peace-talks-trumps-blockade-2026-4 }} [[Category:Politics and conflicts]] [[Category:United States]] [[Category:Iran]] [[Category:Middle East]] [[Category:North America]] [[Category:Donald Trump]] luive9jlqjdb1zwgwevkus4yhpdkqlc 3 3091514 5007538 2026-04-13T12:11:52Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 5007538 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Jesus love Global Ministry}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 12:11, 13 April 2026 (UTC) 77t7ypjlaobl1w08cmfxwzrucm5tgze 3 3091515 5007539 2026-04-13T12:23:33Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 5007539 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=GLORION Gospel Ministry}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 12:23, 13 April 2026 (UTC) rw27pdgts0tmxqqaux41usxfrddofyl 5007545 5007539 2026-04-13T12:41:01Z GLORION Gospel Ministry 2953649 /* The Benefit of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ */ new section 5007545 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=GLORION Gospel Ministry}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 12:23, 13 April 2026 (UTC) == The Benefit of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ == The resurrection of Jesus Christ is one of the most important truths in the Christian faith. It means that after Jesus died on the cross, He came back to life on the third day, showing His power over sin and death. Let’s understand it clearly with explanation and Bible verses: 1. What is the Resurrection? The resurrection is when Jesus rose from the dead after His crucifixion. 📖 The Gospel of Matthew 28:5–6 “He is not here; for He is risen, as He said.” This shows that Jesus did exactly what He promised—He did not remain in the grave. 2. Why Did Jesus Die and Rise Again? Jesus died for our sins, and His resurrection proves that sin and death are defeated. 📖 First Corinthians 15:3–4 “Christ died for our sins… He was buried, and He rose again the third day.” 👉 His death = payment for sin 👉 His resurrection = victory over death 3. The Resurrection Shows Jesus is the Son of God The resurrection proves that Jesus is truly divine. 📖 The Epistle to the Romans 1:4 “Declared to be the Son of God with power… by the resurrection from the dead.” 4. Jesus Appeared to Many People After rising, Jesus showed Himself to many witnesses. 📖 First Corinthians 15:5–6 “He was seen by Peter… then by more than five hundred brethren at once.” This proves the resurrection was not a story—it had real witnesses. 5. The Resurrection Gives Us Hope Because Jesus rose, believers also have hope of eternal life. 📖 The Gospel of John 11:25 “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me… shall live.” 📖 First Peter 1:3 “He has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.” 6. The Resurrection is the Foundation of Faith Without the resurrection, Christianity would have no power. 📖 First Corinthians 15:17 “If Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins.” 7. What the Resurrection Means for Us The resurrection gives believers: ✅ Forgiveness of sins ✅ New life (spiritual transformation) ✅ Victory over death ✅ Hope of eternal life 📖 The Epistle to the Romans 6:4 “Just as Christ was raised from the dead… we also should walk in newness of life'''Bold''' [[User:GLORION Gospel Ministry|GLORION Gospel Ministry]] ([[User talk:GLORION Gospel Ministry|talk]]) 12:41, 13 April 2026 (UTC) jl3vvofs35918r762yinu6gvvnlzrvu 5007565 5007545 2026-04-13T13:05:18Z GLORION Gospel Ministry 2953649 /* The God of Love by Yared Girma */ new section 5007565 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=GLORION Gospel Ministry}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 12:23, 13 April 2026 (UTC) == The Benefit of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ == The resurrection of Jesus Christ is one of the most important truths in the Christian faith. It means that after Jesus died on the cross, He came back to life on the third day, showing His power over sin and death. Let’s understand it clearly with explanation and Bible verses: 1. What is the Resurrection? The resurrection is when Jesus rose from the dead after His crucifixion. 📖 The Gospel of Matthew 28:5–6 “He is not here; for He is risen, as He said.” This shows that Jesus did exactly what He promised—He did not remain in the grave. 2. Why Did Jesus Die and Rise Again? Jesus died for our sins, and His resurrection proves that sin and death are defeated. 📖 First Corinthians 15:3–4 “Christ died for our sins… He was buried, and He rose again the third day.” 👉 His death = payment for sin 👉 His resurrection = victory over death 3. The Resurrection Shows Jesus is the Son of God The resurrection proves that Jesus is truly divine. 📖 The Epistle to the Romans 1:4 “Declared to be the Son of God with power… by the resurrection from the dead.” 4. Jesus Appeared to Many People After rising, Jesus showed Himself to many witnesses. 📖 First Corinthians 15:5–6 “He was seen by Peter… then by more than five hundred brethren at once.” This proves the resurrection was not a story—it had real witnesses. 5. The Resurrection Gives Us Hope Because Jesus rose, believers also have hope of eternal life. 📖 The Gospel of John 11:25 “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me… shall live.” 📖 First Peter 1:3 “He has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.” 6. The Resurrection is the Foundation of Faith Without the resurrection, Christianity would have no power. 📖 First Corinthians 15:17 “If Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins.” 7. What the Resurrection Means for Us The resurrection gives believers: ✅ Forgiveness of sins ✅ New life (spiritual transformation) ✅ Victory over death ✅ Hope of eternal life 📖 The Epistle to the Romans 6:4 “Just as Christ was raised from the dead… we also should walk in newness of life'''Bold''' [[User:GLORION Gospel Ministry|GLORION Gospel Ministry]] ([[User talk:GLORION Gospel Ministry|talk]]) 12:41, 13 April 2026 (UTC) == The God of Love by Yared Girma == The truth that God is love is one of the most beautiful and powerful messages in the Bible. It shows not only who God is, but also how deeply He cares for every human being—including you. 1. God’s Nature Is Love The Bible does not just say that God has love—it says that God is love. 1 John 4:8 — “Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.” This means: Love is God’s character. Everything He does flows from love. His love is not temporary or changing—it is eternal. 2. God’s Love Is Unconditional God does not love us because we are perfect. He loves us even when we fail. Romans 5:8 — “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” This shows: God loved us before we loved Him. His love is not based on our behavior. His love is a gift, not something we earn. 3. God Showed His Love Through Jesus Christ The greatest proof of God’s love is the coming of Jesus Christ. John 3:16 — “For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.” Jesus came to: Save us from sin Restore our relationship with God Give us eternal life 1 John 4:9–10 — “This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him.” 4. God’s Love Is Sacrificial God’s love is not just words—it is action and sacrifice. John 15:13 — “Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.” Jesus died on the cross: To take our sins To give us forgiveness To bring us peace with God 5. God’s Love Is Everlasting God’s love never ends, no matter what happens. Jeremiah 31:3 — “I have loved you with an everlasting love; I have drawn you with unfailing kindness.” Romans 8:38–39 — “Nothing… will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” This means: God will never stop loving you. No situation can remove His love. His love is constant in every season of life. 6. God’s Love Changes Us When we understand God’s love, it transforms our hearts. 1 John 4:19 — “We love because He first loved us.” God’s love helps us: Love others Forgive people Live in peace Grow spiritually 7. God’s Love Is Personal God’s love is not just for the world—it is for you personally. Isaiah 43:4 — “You are precious and honored in my sight… and I love you.” He knows: Your name Your struggles Your heart And He still chooses to love you deeply. 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1936983 quick notes on NPOV 5007732 wikitext text/x-wiki == While waiting for review == While waiting for review, consider addressing the following: * '''Attribution vs assertion:''' The lede states: ** "the US is imposing a blockade on the Strait of Hormuz..." :While the sentence begins with "...Trump has announced...", the structure risks reading as a statement of fact. Consider separating or repeating attribution (e.g., "Trump announced..." / "He said...") to clearly distinguish the announcement and its stated intent. * '''Tone:''' ** "Ghalibaf scoffing at the blockade..." :"Scoffing" is editorial; use neutral wording (e.g., "said" or "responded dismissively"). * '''Claims vs facts:''' ** "the blockade will start at 10:00AM ET..." :Ensure this is clearly attributed, not presented as independently verified. * '''Causation:''' ** "Oil prices have increased... in the aftermath of news of the blockade..." :Avoid implied causation; attribute the observation to a qualified source where possible (or the reporting outlet if necessary), or as a last resort, use neutral phrasing such as "following the announcement" or "amid reports". * '''Balance:''' :Currently limited to US + Iran. Consider adding third-party or contextual viewpoints if available. * '''Minor:''' ** "has announced" → "announced" [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:50, 13 April 2026 (UTC) 9pectnqwburzc5iwleoniky45ke70bc 5007891 5007732 2026-04-14T09:29:49Z CheatCodes4ever 2828722 CheatCodes4ever moved page [[Talk:United States imposes blockade on the Strait of Hormuz]] to [[Talk:United States announces blockade on the Strait of Hormuz]] 5007732 wikitext text/x-wiki == While waiting for review == While waiting for review, consider addressing the following: * '''Attribution vs assertion:''' The lede states: ** "the US is imposing a blockade on the Strait of Hormuz..." :While the sentence begins with "...Trump has announced...", the structure risks reading as a statement of fact. Consider separating or repeating attribution (e.g., "Trump announced..." / "He said...") to clearly distinguish the announcement and its stated intent. * '''Tone:''' ** "Ghalibaf scoffing at the blockade..." :"Scoffing" is editorial; use neutral wording (e.g., "said" or "responded dismissively"). * '''Claims vs facts:''' ** "the blockade will start at 10:00AM ET..." :Ensure this is clearly attributed, not presented as independently verified. * '''Causation:''' ** "Oil prices have increased... in the aftermath of news of the blockade..." :Avoid implied causation; attribute the observation to a qualified source where possible (or the reporting outlet if necessary), or as a last resort, use neutral phrasing such as "following the announcement" or "amid reports". * '''Balance:''' :Currently limited to US + Iran. Consider adding third-party or contextual viewpoints if available. * '''Minor:''' ** "has announced" → "announced" [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:50, 13 April 2026 (UTC) 9pectnqwburzc5iwleoniky45ke70bc 5008004 5007891 2026-04-14T11:11:57Z CheatCodes4ever 2828722 /* While waiting for review */ 5008004 wikitext text/x-wiki ==While waiting for review== While waiting for review, consider addressing the following: * '''Attribution vs assertion:''' The lede states: ** "the US is imposing a blockade on the Strait of Hormuz..." :While the sentence begins with "...Trump has announced...", the structure risks reading as a statement of fact. Consider separating or repeating attribution (e.g., "Trump announced..." / "He said...") to clearly distinguish the announcement and its stated intent. * '''Tone:''' ** "Ghalibaf scoffing at the blockade..." :"Scoffing" is editorial; use neutral wording (e.g., "said" or "responded dismissively"). * '''Claims vs facts:''' ** "the blockade will start at 10:00AM ET..." :Ensure this is clearly attributed, not presented as independently verified. * '''Causation:''' ** "Oil prices have increased... in the aftermath of news of the blockade..." :Avoid implied causation; attribute the observation to a qualified source where possible (or the reporting outlet if necessary), or as a last resort, use neutral phrasing such as "following the announcement" or "amid reports". * '''Balance:''' :Currently limited to US + Iran. Consider adding third-party or contextual viewpoints if available. * '''Minor:''' ** "has announced" → "announced" [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:50, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} The start time of the blockade is already attributed to the US Central Command. Other than that I have applied the feedback for the most part. 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April 2026 (UTC) rf2q6o5tkm0myit1p0hwu9lbmuswgrg 3 3091585 5007763 2026-04-13T19:09:58Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 5007763 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Johanraymond}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 19:09, 13 April 2026 (UTC) lvbsm3edgn6wj1y4alw95cjwkqckcyl 3 3091586 5007764 2026-04-13T19:15:13Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 5007764 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=KConn97}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 19:15, 13 April 2026 (UTC) h6rg0phv5r294c17ah6jdx2ycezfnhb 3 3091587 5007766 2026-04-13T19:19:41Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 5007766 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Wiki52039}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 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19:44, 13 April 2026 (UTC) av43by6glwadqsskactssh17soq1z7z 3 3091591 5007770 2026-04-13T19:49:15Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 5007770 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Hindiedits}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 19:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) 4q3ddy6j5wxx223x50gjlk0yvjqz9fp 3 3091592 5007771 2026-04-13T19:49:24Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 5007771 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Bill landis}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 19:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) lj5zijb9e64jmv4fcrjmnak4u4cbcnj 3 3091593 5007772 2026-04-13T19:49:44Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 5007772 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Neothiamin}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews 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Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 20:21, 13 April 2026 (UTC) 89z9jti5vsbtsk29xcvxmn37utqwq3k 3 3091600 5007779 2026-04-13T20:24:04Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 5007779 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=4oclockclub}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 20:24, 13 April 2026 (UTC) lmm7e11oxtbnyjr117a3y9lonzlgdjg 2 3091601 5007780 2026-04-13T20:31:18Z 4oclockclub 2953731 Page created with " Calls Grow for Revival of Children’s Series Following ‘Balamory’ Reboot Fans of classic children’s television are expressing renewed interest in the return of the popular series Balamory, following news of its recent reboot. The revival has sparked broader discussions among audiences about other beloved programmes that have yet to make a comeback. Among them is 4 O'Clock Club, a CBBC comedy-drama that developed a loyal fanbase during its original run. The show..." 5007780 wikitext text/x-wiki Calls Grow for Revival of Children’s Series Following ‘Balamory’ Reboot Fans of classic children’s television are expressing renewed interest in the return of the popular series Balamory, following news of its recent reboot. The revival has sparked broader discussions among audiences about other beloved programmes that have yet to make a comeback. Among them is 4 O'Clock Club, a CBBC comedy-drama that developed a loyal fanbase during its original run. The show, which followed the lives of students in a school’s after-hours detention club, was cancelled in 2020, reportedly due to declining viewership. However, despite its cancellation, fans continue to advocate for its return. Many have taken to social media to suggest that the programme could be successfully revived, particularly with the return of key characters. One popular idea among viewers is the reintroduction of Josh — the show’s original protagonist — this time in the role of a teacher, offering a fresh perspective while maintaining continuity with the original series. Industry observers note that reboots and revivals have become increasingly common, as broadcasters look to tap into established audiences and nostalgia-driven demand. Supporters of 4 O'Clock Club argue that a pilot episode could serve as a practical way to gauge audience interest before committing to a full series. While there has been no official confirmation from CBBC or the BBC regarding a revival, the continued enthusiasm from fans suggests there may still be untapped potential for the show’s return. ekmwcbvsr6ebqh7454zonzlu0b7kgvj 5007781 5007780 2026-04-13T20:33:01Z 4oclockclub 2953731 5007781 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Calls]] Grow for Revival of Children’s Series Following ‘Balamory’ Reboot Fans of classic children’s television are expressing renewed interest in the return of the popular series Balamory, following news of its recent reboot. The revival has sparked broader discussions among audiences about other beloved programmes that have yet to make a comeback. Among them is 4 O'Clock Club, a CBBC comedy-drama that developed a loyal fanbase during its original run. The show, which followed the lives of students in a school’s after-hours detention club, was cancelled in 2020, reportedly due to declining viewership. However, despite its cancellation, fans continue to advocate for its return. Many have taken to social media to suggest that the programme could be successfully revived, particularly with the return of key characters. One popular idea among viewers is the reintroduction of Josh — the show’s original protagonist — this time in the role of a teacher, offering a fresh perspective while maintaining continuity with the original series. Industry observers note that reboots and revivals have become increasingly common, as broadcasters look to tap into established audiences and nostalgia-driven demand. Supporters of 4 O'Clock Club argue that a pilot episode could serve as a practical way to gauge audience interest before committing to a full series. While there has been no official confirmation from CBBC or the BBC regarding a revival, the continued enthusiasm from fans suggests there may still be untapped potential for the show’s return. k925hn2npnvgqjz33gfpplw68tc2mlx 3 3091602 5007782 2026-04-13T20:34:44Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 5007782 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Cemtufekci}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 20:34, 13 April 2026 (UTC) pz3nx84rd520dyim0ss43eoajwd4zmt 3 3091603 5007783 2026-04-13T20:49:41Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 5007783 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=AlfredWinkle}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 20:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) con489w0rfvdir93irn488u3ep9oiqb 3 3091604 5007784 2026-04-13T20:54:54Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the 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of the Wikinews community. 5007868 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Aymn Th}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 07:26, 14 April 2026 (UTC) pjednm98zdvy5w1entii4pisjo76rla 0 3091683 5007869 2026-04-14T07:28:12Z Jaysayamano 2953804 Page created with "{{Wikinews}} = Ghanaian artist Buddy DML outlines 2026 music releases (unverified report) = '''Accra, Ghana — 14 April 2026''' This article is a draft Wikinews-style report regarding Ghanaian musical artist '''Buddy DML''' (Emmanuel Deliver Amable). No independent external news sources have been cited at the time of writing. == Lead == Ghanaian musical artist Buddy DML, also known as The Trenchkid TM, is reported to be developing and organizing multiple music relea..." 5007869 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Wikinews}} = Ghanaian artist Buddy DML outlines 2026 music releases (unverified report) = '''Accra, Ghana — 14 April 2026''' This article is a draft Wikinews-style report regarding Ghanaian musical artist '''Buddy DML''' (Emmanuel Deliver Amable). No independent external news sources have been cited at the time of writing. == Lead == Ghanaian musical artist Buddy DML, also known as The Trenchkid TM, is reported to be developing and organizing multiple music releases for 2026, including singles and album projects under his independent label AEDTP WORLD. == Report == According to information attributed to the artist’s official releases and internal production catalog, Buddy DML is preparing a large body of work for 2026. The material is said to include multiple singles and several album projects spanning Afrobeat, hip-hop, melodic trap, and related genres. The reported projects include tracks such as "Mood Swings", "All Day", "Way Up", and "Midnight Dream", alongside larger collections grouped into albums including "Blue Heart", "Running", "Once In The Blue", "Promises", and "New Year". == Background == Buddy DML (Emmanuel Deliver Amable) is a Ghanaian artist born on 14 April 2008 in Anloga, Volta Region. He began engaging with music at a young age and started recording and developing music projects in 2021. He later adopted the professional stage name Buddy DML and has been associated with independent music production under AEDTP WORLD. == Industry context == Emerging independent artists in Ghana and across Africa increasingly use digital distribution platforms and self-managed labels to release large volumes of music content without traditional record label structures. == Verification status == At the time of writing: * No independent media confirmation has been cited * Information is based on artist-provided material * Further verification is required for publication as official Wikinews content == See also == * Music of Ghana * Afrobeat * Independent music production == References == <ref>{{cite news |url=https://musicbrainz.org/artist/67553ded-a6c1-45e6-89f9-b439612c9f75 |title=Ghanaian artist Buddy DML releases new music projects |work=musicbrainz |date=2026-04-14 |access-date=2026-04-14 }}</ref> <ref>{{cite news |url=https://soundbetter.com/profiles/635521-buddy-dml |title=Ghanaian artist Buddy DML releases new music projects |work=soundbetter |date=2024-04-14 |access-date=2026-04-14 }}</ref> <ref>{{cite news |url=https://www.last.fm/music/Buddy+DML |title=Ghanaian artist Buddy DML releases new music projects |work=last.fm wiki |date=2026-04-09 |access-date=2026-04-12 }}</ref> * [Citation needed] == Notes == This article should not be considered final Wikinews publication until supported by independent, reliable sources. dwjom9fd14qay8nzfv2824qmfib0y08 5007909 5007869 2026-04-14T10:36:29Z Jtneill 21822 {{delete|promotional; not newsworthy}} 5007909 wikitext text/x-wiki {{delete|promotional; not newsworthy}} {{Wikinews}} = Ghanaian artist Buddy DML outlines 2026 music releases (unverified report) = '''Accra, Ghana — 14 April 2026''' This article is a draft Wikinews-style report regarding Ghanaian musical artist '''Buddy DML''' (Emmanuel Deliver Amable). No independent external news sources have been cited at the time of writing. == Lead == Ghanaian musical artist Buddy DML, also known as The Trenchkid TM, is reported to be developing and organizing multiple music releases for 2026, including singles and album projects under his independent label AEDTP WORLD. == Report == According to information attributed to the artist’s official releases and internal production catalog, Buddy DML is preparing a large body of work for 2026. The material is said to include multiple singles and several album projects spanning Afrobeat, hip-hop, melodic trap, and related genres. The reported projects include tracks such as "Mood Swings", "All Day", "Way Up", and "Midnight Dream", alongside larger collections grouped into albums including "Blue Heart", "Running", "Once In The Blue", "Promises", and "New Year". == Background == Buddy DML (Emmanuel Deliver Amable) is a Ghanaian artist born on 14 April 2008 in Anloga, Volta Region. He began engaging with music at a young age and started recording and developing music projects in 2021. He later adopted the professional stage name Buddy DML and has been associated with independent music production under AEDTP WORLD. == Industry context == Emerging independent artists in Ghana and across Africa increasingly use digital distribution platforms and self-managed labels to release large volumes of music content without traditional record label structures. == Verification status == At the time of writing: * No independent media confirmation has been cited * Information is based on artist-provided material * Further verification is required for publication as official Wikinews content == See also == * Music of Ghana * Afrobeat * Independent music production == References == <ref>{{cite news |url=https://musicbrainz.org/artist/67553ded-a6c1-45e6-89f9-b439612c9f75 |title=Ghanaian artist Buddy DML releases new music projects |work=musicbrainz |date=2026-04-14 |access-date=2026-04-14 }}</ref> <ref>{{cite news |url=https://soundbetter.com/profiles/635521-buddy-dml |title=Ghanaian artist Buddy DML releases new music projects |work=soundbetter |date=2024-04-14 |access-date=2026-04-14 }}</ref> <ref>{{cite news |url=https://www.last.fm/music/Buddy+DML |title=Ghanaian artist Buddy DML releases new music projects |work=last.fm wiki |date=2026-04-09 |access-date=2026-04-12 }}</ref> * [Citation needed] == Notes == This article should not be considered final Wikinews publication until supported by independent, reliable sources. a1ernncp76umw6tdyfmrvauf00s014a 3 3091684 5007870 2026-04-14T07:30:03Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 5007870 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=WilliamTheThird2501}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 07:30, 14 April 2026 (UTC) 1ug9l6aki9ykdni8ibali5kiqvuvmmc 3 3091685 5007871 2026-04-14T07:32:35Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 5007871 wikitext text/x-wiki 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